< 1375315854 834804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the diæ̈resises are an integral part of #̈esoteric. < 1375315862 365670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1375315893 585853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just pasted that to see if the accents were showed properly in putty (at least the æ one was) < 1375315903 645199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i think they both are < 1375315921 966117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the logs showed them separated) < 1375316361 325628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :your logreader is broken hth < 1375316564 963374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Also what are the attributes of a maximally Norwegian person?) <-- i think they have to spend a lot of time in the wilderness, preferably with skis on hth < 1375316649 307358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: just for monowhyismybrainfailingme text, though < 1375316659 5085 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monospaced? < 1375316662 456663 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1375316700 237182 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: your brain is infected by mononucleosis hth < 1375316800 347017 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i also may have a slight headache < 1375316826 949452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fetched an apple to chase away the doctors < 1375316853 677109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: apples are very dangerous when you're sick < 1375316873 407363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1375316941 577057 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :phrase overheard at work: "they have to do the earthquake-bracing for the racks" < 1375316947 467483 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :california is wonderful < 1375317083 219523 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did the wires end up catching it < 1375317146 307553 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::_; < 1375317151 460438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachafffffff < 1375317154 667756 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this behavior is v. confusing < 1375317175 512420 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i stop < 1375317187 207936 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I gotta figure out how to do that for the shelves in my room < 1375317201 107898 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like making that k. of joke in every channel < 1375317214 198372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'd be better off if i didn't make it in any channel............................ < 1375317219 8219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well I don't mind personally when it's re: a convo I'm in, but I figure others might mind (kmc the concern troll) < 1375317227 947857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1375317234 793825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1375317242 358078 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they actually have earthquakes you can feel in california < 1375317243 908429 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don't remember like any actual earthquakes here < 1375317247 168482 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow I cannot wrap my mind around this concept < 1375317255 878074 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've felt two in recent memory (the past like, 3 years) < 1375317273 768024 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I felt an earthquake in 3 years of living in Boston and never in 4 years of living in LA! < 1375317279 549741 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one was when the office I was in was on a higher floor (4th floor), so the building waved a bit even though the earthquake was small < 1375317280 108680 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you mean people in this channel or in the other channel < 1375317283 522208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one < 1375317304 879384 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other one was literally directly under me at home, and very close to the surface, so it was like a sudden pulse (instead of shaking), and wasn't like, big or anything, just surprising < 1375317309 539413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i figure it's no more confusing than e.g. zzo38 < 1375317311 638355 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and weird since it felt nothing like a quake < 1375317327 928159 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: my friend was worried because his apt building in SF is built on fill, so he looked up the engineering diagrams and it has 200 ft pilings down into bedrock < 1375317334 651952 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@____@ < 1375317334 852554 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1375317339 728556 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if the big one hits, the ground will liquify but he'll just be up on stilts < 1375317352 331578 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's amazing < 1375317370 559338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a BART tunnel runs thorugh the Hayward Fault and the plan for if a train is in the tunnel during an earthquake is basically "fuck" < 1375317382 538381 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :waving buildings is incredibly terrifying < 1375317392 596137 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should, like, nail them to the ground harder. < 1375317396 748152 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like they have no plan... it would cost more to fix than the expected value of lives lost < 1375317399 938847 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially the skyscrapers. < 1375317404 957988 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the waving keeps them safer < 1375317408 261772 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and while this sounds kind of terrible it's impossible to have a civilization without some logic of this form < 1375317413 278951 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: imo nail the skyscrapers to the sky < 1375317416 598555 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like trees wave in wind < 1375317418 820106 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"common sense" < 1375317423 59086 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: but it's scary < 1375317429 658537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who ever heard of a skyquake < 1375317430 78397 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a little scary? but it doesn't wave much < 1375317438 961028 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :comfort is so much more important than safety ;_; < 1375317462 278240 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay how about nail the buildings down harder but also give everyone parachutes or something < 1375317484 938513 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1375317486 578593 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1375317492 628676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :after 9/11 there were all kinds of daft schemes for skyscraper escape systems < 1375317497 128781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `translatetoerjan ei saa peittää <-- må ikke tildekkes hth < 1375317517 818898 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell olsner `translatetoerjan ei saa peittää <-- må ikke tildekkes hth < 1375317518 18635 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1375317526 98655 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is hth norwegian < 1375317529 433548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it stand for < 1375317545 89668 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"my epic monodialogue on alien bazongas" hussie. < 1375317571 688656 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1375317628 309310 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :homestuck update ¬_¬ < 1375317790 929325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hjelper tørr hud < 1375317811 55691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is actually a swedish brand i think < 1375317850 449992 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375317892 150062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo become hungarian and change your name to őrjan < 1375317902 809539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hjälper torr hud) < 1375317915 869810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nem. < 1375317963 109303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my ø is actually short, so that would not be the proper accent even if transliterated < 1375318013 839694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously it's short. if it was tall it would be written Ø < 1375318194 610064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? for further details < 1375318196 350104 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1375318202 702998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1375318226 419930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? for further < 1375318228 180233 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :for further? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1375318228 590076 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  | < 1375318228 790203 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                º¯`\o < 1375318420 382036 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375318596 851260 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Må ikke tildekkes. Får ej övertäckas. Do not cover. Ne pas couvrir. Ei saa peittää. Nicht zudecken. Niet afdekken. Non deve essere coperto. He hàkpbibàtb. Nezakryvat. Nie przykrywac. Neapklàt. Neuzdengti. Ne smije biti pokriveno. Kinni mitte katta. < 1375318758 621348 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think one of them tries to be some kind of an approximation of Cyrillic letters. < 1375318902 291511 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :HE HÀKPbIÀTb. < 1375318923 981942 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should be a translate command that picks a random target language. < 1375318944 301756 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PECTOPAH < 1375318993 762335 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a thousand years, the only rosetta stone for translating this strange "English" into Double Polish is all the "do not cover" labels on a box < 1375319000 191313 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1375319005 714668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reverse Double Polish < 1375319025 838375 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a family channel, kmc < 1375319070 679854 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a family channel < 1375319106 578458 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a channel you can bring your family to < 1375319131 354510 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1375319143 962552 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, like me and elliott's daughter, fiora < 1375319198 412214 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i be your daughter too :'( < 1375319212 663294 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :w-w-whaaat >////< < 1375319271 342966 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1375319910 863959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://members.trainweb.com/bedt/indloco/crrnjbxt.html this "Removable Crossover" is insane < 1375319918 410840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric trainz < 1375319989 218401 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: do you need a three-letter domain to get .fi < 1375320000 441071 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://members.trainweb.com/bedt/indloco/crrnjbxtehcrossover.jpg i'm scared kmc < 1375320004 244349 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like you at least have to get ""special permission"" to get a two-letter .fi < 1375320099 74873 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, bike: I like the filenames. < 1375320117 418502 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yeah, only two- and three-letter .fi names are allowed. < 1375320139 306002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1375320148 838241 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just joking. What are you asking? :-P < 1375320149 784780 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1375320162 267710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried to register in.fi but it was rejected due to being a forbidden name or something < 1375320175 56484 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have heh.fi so i thought maybe you know the regulations < 1375320181 186151 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they disallow .fi < 1375320187 881834 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.......hmm < 1375320220 424467 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A quick whois suggests that s6.fi is "Domain not found" and in.fi is "Domain not available" < 1375320224 546145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So maybe that's true. < 1375320235 5081 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read the PDF and it was kind of vague about this. < 1375320636 6760 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is it bad that I read that as ~"special permission" < 1375320638 887177 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In addition, certain words referred to in the Act (e.g. limited company, trademark) or abbreviations (e.g. oy, fi, com) cannot be registered as domain names. < 1375320668 495773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: as in an owned string thing? < 1375320755 186722 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375320759 105947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also → afk < 1375320767 585148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: soon the dreams will start < 1375320843 545875 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.153.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :не покрывать < 1375320958 748071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mr.scruf.fi < 1375321921 958535 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375322318 830100 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there go my dreams of having the URL fi.fi/the/poodle any time soon. < 1375322697 37554 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pbflist < 1375322698 439910 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :pbflist: shachaf Sgeo quintopia < 1375322723 630440 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott already `pbflisted. < 1375322756 590849 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't see it then < 1375322997 848438 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375323035 811340 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've already has slist and pbflist today...................when's olist coming < 1375323069 851191 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does one add self to list again, and what are slist and olist? < 1375323110 860725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist is homestuck, olist is order of the stick < 1375323119 407997 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends on the implementation. < 1375323128 21246 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/slist | rot13 < 1375323129 561863 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375323132 60964 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/slist | r13 < 1375323133 540846 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rpub -a "$(onfranzr "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; gnvy -a+2 "$0" | knetf; rkvg \ Gnaro \ ngevd \ Atriq \ Svben \ abeggv \ Ftrb \ GungBgureCrefba \ nybg < 1375323144 368455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/olist | r13 < 1375323145 892252 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rpub -a "$(onfranzr "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; gnvy -a+2 "$0" | knetf; rkvg \ funpuns \ brewna \ Ftrb \ SverSyl < 1375323157 152143 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doing a "`run echo YOURNAMEHERE >> bin/slist" ought to be sufficient. < 1375323157 681396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can just echo ion >> bin/olist and so on. < 1375323183 671306 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just looking at those wondering what the hell they were for, but now I've learned! < 1375323193 762950 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run r13 >bin/pbflist < 1375323222 961320 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375323234 920928 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that is "slist" and "olist" then what is "pbflist" for? < 1375323240 21638 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1375323240 541454 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :For PBF < 1375323248 540966 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: There's also `pbflistdeluxe < 1375323251 626566 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which stands for what? < 1375323257 676869 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Perry Bible Fellowship < 1375323258 81367 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that one costs $100/month to subscribe or something. < 1375323260 270690 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Premium service. < 1375323265 310879 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pbflistdeluxe < 1375323266 720863 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :pbflistdeluxe: < 1375323293 71509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it needs better marketing < 1375323310 261297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, pbf doesn't have very frequent updates. < 1375323333 371501 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes the issue is not the marketing but the product. < 1375323353 931050 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Every available .fi has a digit in it. :-( < 1375323361 871305 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there are 316 of them. < 1375323367 341737 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :aye < 1375323402 219229 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :When getting my domain, i didn’t find any available two-letter one i would have preferred to the three-letter one i got. < 1375323402 581680 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you went through this before acquiring heh.fi? < 1375323408 981491 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should re-figure out what one-letter-plus-ccTLD domains are still available one of these days < 1375323421 432980 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes my Dungeons&Dragons recordings is updated, although perhaps I should use a more consistent format like you have, so that you can filter on it if you want to access it. < 1375323422 551564 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were some last time I checked. < 1375323434 452244 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then acquire one if it's still possible and they don't cost a billion pounds and they don't have draconian political problems < 1375323444 340437 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.lliott < 1375323698 424875 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobian_conjecture why is math hard < 1375323730 441845 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you cannot understand it perfectly. < 1375323776 164420 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this booklet describes an interesting language http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~rak/papers/newbook.pdf < 1375323805 861949 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375323808 620094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: how celebrated is this problem < 1375323820 62615 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: do people have Jacobian conjecture parties < 1375323828 402229 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not, we should have one. < 1375323952 232244 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm sometimes it's surprising what problems are unsolved < 1375323973 852629 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. that is actually the context this was presented to me in < 1375324031 199373 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375324055 883507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are any of these numbers good: 27 28 29 31 35 36 38 41 43 46 48 56 58 61 63 68 72 76 81 84 91 92 93 94 98 < 1375324062 442522 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine them with .fi at the end < 1375324077 452550 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. i like the look of 58.fi. < 1375324081 322395 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not 58.ro. < 1375324086 332688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1375324103 722796 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aesthetics. < 1375324117 769165 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on if you're going to be like that at least say Æsthetics < 1375324159 933011 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :ÆS < 1375324167 63316 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1375324187 663026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :72 has a lot of factors but two of them are 3 (not really acceptable) < 1375324196 923623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :29 31 41 43 are prime < 1375324201 543065 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 61 < 1375324217 273507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :48 is like a better 72 but it still has a 3 :'( < 1375324239 442857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :27 is 3 3s "the worst number??" even though cubes are p. good < 1375324293 502819 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :81 is 4 3s is that better or worse than 3 3s < 1375324515 414788 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Maybe I just can't get a .fi since I don't have a .fi (physical) address. :-( < 1375324553 785919 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you just need a .fi link layer address < 1375324605 393394 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Oh. D-: < 1375324888 235233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ↁ-: < 1375325311 11057 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375325327 30598 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1375327013 613980 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375327523 338949 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ootbcomp.com/docs/belt/index.html this looks interesting but I can't stop looking at that guy's hair, wow < 1375327554 259434 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if this follows that thing where programming language inventors have to have beards, his CPU design will be really successful < 1375327622 998956 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a startup now emergingi from stealth mode. < 1375327642 130603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell is doomed to fail now that Igloo quit msr :'( < 1375327672 910231 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, he sounds like he looks < 1375327688 718646 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This is the most exciting new development in computing and hair fashion in ten years." < 1375327692 390128 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XDDD < 1375327715 385293 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: finally < 1375327757 299848 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've had about enough of all of this success. < 1375327804 255757 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get a thousand DSPs for $17, huh < 1375327808 860249 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you even seen Igloo's beard < 1375327964 450161 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Price: wild guess" lol < 1375327970 810845 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1375328124 210130 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: up to explaining 33 ops/cycle. chip design is the most stunningly "no, you can't describe this with one number" field < 1375328192 90485 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"really nasty things, like function calls" < 1375328246 660602 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is bad and hasn't actually watched it <.< < 1375328281 600364 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, basically he put up "33 ops/cycle" but then explained that they're MIMD operations, they have to be independent, and it depends on the distribution of hardware on the chip (like, not 33 adds) < 1375328383 611888 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's just like typical x86 type of thing, except the architecture is designed to make more than just a couple per cycle feasible? < 1375328395 586021 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except like, without VLIWness? < 1375328398 551069 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"typical x86 type of thing"? < 1375328417 631859 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummmm multiple execution units and the ability to execute multiple instructions as long as they're of different types? < 1375328421 541249 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I wasn't clear < 1375328428 1788 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that seemed to be the intention, yes < 1375328455 980246 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you s hould probably just listen to the talk instead of to me misinterpreting everything < 1375328459 610614 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should < 1375328479 100551 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haswell has "nearly 500 possible sources" of operands, gosh < 1375328619 381310 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he says routing sources to sinks is half of haswell's power use ._. < 1375328695 796929 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not surprising :/ I mean like OOE is basically a bunch of queues < 1375328771 544115 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he says 500 sources is mostly for rename registers, so get rid of those i guess < 1375328787 772078 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's the physical register file < 1375328844 622513 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always thought OOE was implemented with magic dust < 1375329211 72621 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems pretty hard to write assembly for (what a change) < 1375329600 523522 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone remind me why I rejected Smalltalk the last time I looked at Smalltalk? < 1375329611 433491 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you're Sgeo? < 1375329612 17502 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I'm getting into Smalltalk again < 1375329742 806419 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"there's a canonical pain in the neck in instruction set. Called divide." < 1375329747 493580 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :set design* < 1375330877 956711 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1375330978 386644 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't you make a simpler one? < 1375330986 226894 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a simpler what < 1375330996 276892 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A simpler CPU design < 1375331007 356500 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see the link. < 1375331213 15264 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375331387 595146 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375331720 989066 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375331728 49462 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375331959 769348 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Excess Flood < 1375332004 508690 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375333166 174852 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-164-171-247.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375333250 461252 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-89.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375333348 591939 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-164-171-247.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375333933 323501 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-171-247.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1375333958 505792 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375334018 468615 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Excess Flood < 1375334027 878729 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1375334030 32146 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-239.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375334045 47296 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375334599 478579 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.153.222 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375338346 564323 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://jerkcity.com/_jerkcity1681.html < 1375338388 933774 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1375338458 384108 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pictures carnot engine < 1375339923 813752 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Harry Potter and the Physical Impossibility of Death in the Mind of Someone Living < 1375340534 918052 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how hard do you think it would be to extract useful information from a 44.1 kHz 16 bit 2 channel raw PCM recording of speech, encrypted with AES-ECB with an unknown key? < 1375340644 938738 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375341023 941650 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375341115 65076 :douglass!~douglass@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375341335 686369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. That's like mapping every 16(/24/32) byte block to some unique identifier. < 1375341401 895700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know enough (i.e. anything) about audio to know. :-( < 1375341408 334446 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much information is there in 16 bytes? < 1375341501 202391 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 44100 * 16 * 2 < 1375341502 105589 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1411200 < 1375341554 990822 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (44100 * 16 * 2) / 128 < 1375341556 204769 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 11025.0 < 1375341599 541895 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qgcihmdapfxmiefd QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375341774 668675 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did this with some music i had on my computer and about 0.4% of the resulting file consisted of blocks that occurred at least twice < 1375341780 406971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that was only one channel < 1375341903 726577 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can recover speech from an encrypted VoIP channel using knowledge of the variable-bitrate codec in use http://www.cs.unc.edu/~fabian/papers/tissec2010.pdf < 1375341953 184848 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you vary the bitrate using the key? < 1375342015 428634 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Recover actual speech? < 1375342020 880967 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a sample? < 1375342023 314252 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno read the paper < 1375342034 354633 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how do you mean < 1375342034 598705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what am i paying you for hth < 1375342043 544979 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your taxes pay my salary? < 1375342053 34715 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: invent a voip client that sends only the bitrate < 1375342055 405512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :checkmate < 1375342094 856586 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you protect against that by varying the bitrate by the key and/or using a different coded? < 1375342114 546718 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1375342373 346897 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1375342508 844686 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375343017 684412 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Hmm, I tried recording a small PCM file and I'm not seeing any duplicates. < 1375343128 381343 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375343129 620688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(conclusion: ecb mode is safe) < 1375343190 669098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1375343348 792720 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375344405 918909 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375345113 491822 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, the paper "only" locates predefined phrases. (Still nice.) < 1375345145 610222 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote speech recognition < 1375345147 719649 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :663) fizzie: What kind of speech recognition do you do? If you only need to recognize famous speeches, like Churchill or something, it should be pretty easy. < 1375345172 463283 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's that kind of. < 1375345244 621134 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vxioqercdsurgoua JOIN :#esoteric < 1375345300 758517 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1375348554 91503 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375349359 70343 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375349957 874894 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1375349987 610583 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375351115 511644 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1375351155 55589 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375351574 493693 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375351624 603763 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.89.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375351644 176894 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.89.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm off to the Centre for Computing History in Cambridge tomorrow http://ComputingHistory.org.uk :-) < 1375351863 619612 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's itsy < 1375351920 258745 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.89.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm... I think this covers it http://about.me/john_metcalf < 1375352584 732469 :katla!~brook@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1375352607 147977 :katla!~brook@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1375352814 12857 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375352923 80465 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375352943 486120 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375353266 833100 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375353369 809669 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375354654 697915 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375355227 227533 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1375355302 985317 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375355657 846599 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375355684 717392 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375355702 762935 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375355957 710966 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.89.101 QUIT :Quit: itsy < 1375355999 943158 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1375356108 306761 :impomatic!~chatzilla@46.208.89.101 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375356430 225098 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375356983 629327 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1375357199 573332 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Excess Flood < 1375357246 903146 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375357929 898098 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375359069 754078 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375359136 848944 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1375360327 574386 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got pbflisted. was it serious this time or another false alarm? < 1375360443 277506 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traditional hellos from the Assembly event thing. < 1375360541 577436 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. cool. it's serious. < 1375360549 853773 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks whoever used it properly < 1375360638 979184 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oh, cool. It's serious." -- things you rarely hear at the doctor's. < 1375360670 365709 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.153.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375360865 243954 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the serious moonlight < 1375361039 154078 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Mozilla build process requires many tools that are not installed on most Windows systems. In addition to Visual Studio, you must install MozillaBuild, which is a bundle of software including just the right versions of bash, GNU make, autoconf, Mercurial, and much more." < 1375361454 86928 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375361460 254951 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375361672 818082 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1375361733 8785 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375362934 957784 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375362947 259145 :katla!~brook@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Quit: BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it. < 1375362951 108022 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375363080 306022 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good quote-depleted morning! < 1375363181 903890 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan I kinda lost count of the recursion layers. are we still on a natural number, of have we reached reality? < 1375363182 194196 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1375363197 813491 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quote-depleted? < 1375363254 859330 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the haskell weekly news only has a single quote. < 1375363611 897695 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :' < 1375363633 276895 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375363698 873916 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes fizzie with a vietnamese wooden spatula < 1375363728 705262 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ow. < 1375363921 887542 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bought a graphics card (special Assembly discount deal), and it came with... let's see... "Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Blacklist Digital Deluxe Edition" and "Metro: Last Light". < 1375363941 108484 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what these are (except that they're games), but they're "not for resale". < 1375364058 261594 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck splinter cell < 1375364058 550514 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell is a series of award-winning action-adventure stealth video games the first of which was released in 2002, and their tie-in novels. < 1375364065 435599 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck metro last night < 1375364065 715609 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Legend of Zelda HD Experience is an upcoming action game video game for the Wii U, Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 which is being developed by 4A Games. < 1375364077 842864 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh. < 1375364078 240163 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hthth. < 1375364086 157715 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not entirely sure that last one is helpful. < 1375364119 357631 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless "Metro: Last Night" is the same thing as The Legend of Zelda HD Experience. < 1375364165 610640 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the 4A Games part is correct. < 1375364180 782613 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :splinter cell is like this long running series of spy game things? I think I played a tiny bit of one a long time ago, you could check the reviews on this one? < 1375364194 886082 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really like shooting. Do these games feature any shooting? < 1375364220 383122 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're both shooters < 1375364232 962226 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is shooting, and all the gibs and splatter and gore and flying random fleshy bits. < 1375364288 183758 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bleh. I'm not good at things where you have to do a thing. < 1375364307 466730 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's "not for resale", so they'll presumably shoot me if I try to sell them to someone. < 1375364312 564051 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of like, the man-shoot variety, not the glowy-bullet-dodging variety) < 1375364331 542622 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: You mean, they're not shmups. < 1375364404 156783 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1375364413 100061 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: the #esoteric presence bitmap visualization thing I made is not draggable on Android-touchscreen-Chrome. < 1375364419 31881 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I kinda just wanted an excuse to say glowy-bullet-dodging. < 1375364445 408422 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's done with mousedown/mousemove/mouseup eventry, I guess that doesn't really happen here. < 1375364473 148554 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a map? < 1375364505 13753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: A bitmap. You know, it's a map in time. < 1375364515 216784 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "presence" means "being on-channel". < 1375364533 207350 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1375364535 166555 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zem.fi/ircvis/esoteric/people_presence.html < 1375364559 284841 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can check yourself out on there. < 1375364570 626253 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah. < 1375364578 51458 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only see up to 2009 and can't drag. :/ < 1375364612 174506 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh, that's kind of cool. < 1375364639 555157 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: We can see when you sleep. < 1375364651 941120 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also there seem to be some gaps. < 1375364729 892304 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott's traces are scary. < 1375364740 238098 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: As is only appropriate. < 1375365010 949956 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: when I sleep is not quite a secret :p though I also nap a lot too < 1375365047 225141 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: The naps would need to be quite regular in order to be visible. < 1375365097 739341 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I guess so < 1375365112 352123 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you can add multiple layers. is this a who-is-whose-alt tool? :P < 1375365167 194836 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was already used to prove kmc is Taneb, or something like that. < 1375365230 462692 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In re layers, the blending is kinda wrong, so it's best to put a dark-ish color like red on the bottom, and a bright one (like turquoise) on top. < 1375365316 379416 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are you Taneb? < 1375366438 20703 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375366493 977237 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-239.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375366659 271265 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-239.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375367866 415229 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~fortune < 1375367866 745715 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Behind all the political rhetoric being hurled at us from abroad, we are < 1375367867 6736 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bringing home one unassailable fact -- [terrorism is] a crime by any civilized < 1375367867 6963 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :standard, committed against innocent people, away from the scene of political < 1375367867 7080 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :conflict, and must be dealt with as a crime. . . . < 1375367867 7191 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : [I]n our recognition of the nature of terrorism as a crime lies our best hope < 1375367867 267510 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of dealing with it. . . . < 1375367867 267698 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : [L]et us use the tools that we have. Let us invoke the cooperation we have < 1375367868 337841 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the right to expect around the world, and with that cooperation let us shrink < 1375367868 597703 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dark and dank areas of sanctuary until these cowardly marauders are held < 1375367869 239145 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to answer as criminals in an open and public trial for the crimes they have < 1375367869 996265 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :committed, and receive the punishment they so richly deserve. < 1375367870 343763 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :- William H. Webster, Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation, 15 Oct 1985 < 1375367955 836460 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1375367984 404809 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~fortune < 1375367984 662142 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortune finishes the great quotations, #2 < 1375367984 916890 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : If at first you don't succeed, think how many people < 1375367984 917100 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : you've made happy. < 1375367996 5849 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. not a good fortunate day. < 1375367997 923408 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1375367998 178519 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Clustering" to "Confining" < 1375368074 888522 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, we gather together and get oppressed. < 1375368099 335070 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stays away from any divinatory tool today as a safety measure < 1375368748 320536 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo JOIN :#esoteric < 1375368996 658989 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so im reading dennett's intuition pumps < 1375369014 686305 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ch 24 is basically an intro to register machines < 1375369045 567461 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is fun, because now im thinking about how to write an advanced imperative language on top of it < 1375369197 634899 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: What's this CTCP-version thing? < 1375369344 291970 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It's a request for your client to identify itself < 1375369368 872831 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Yes, yes, I know what it is; I was more curious about the whys. < 1375369375 930118 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh. Sorry =P < 1375369390 130026 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Identify yourself, fizzie. < 1375369436 943722 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Deewiant is trying to figure out which type of fizzie you are < 1375369439 248374 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, a coke? pepsi? < 1375369464 231032 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: *beep* this is fizzie v0.9pre1+55e82e1eb131597ce6ef77ff775b2c2e5f4d6b45 -- all systems nominal *beep* < 1375369542 681584 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's funny how systems are always either nominal or off-the-charts < 1375369628 679029 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why use nominal systems when you can use significant ones. < 1375369682 273310 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*beep* this is Fiora v1.24 -- all systems kind of nominal, but needs food *beep* < 1375369879 277667 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, we've a post-1 version here. < 1375370091 120553 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's because I'm old' < 1375370169 967164 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm "old" too, and still a prerelease. < 1375370186 34645 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That said, someone should version oerjan too. < 1375370245 218332 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should become a Mozilla project, they have nice version numbering. < 1375370268 670490 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want my source code to be public though :/ < 1375370274 928066 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kind of a little bit too invasive, you know? < 1375370373 22293 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@athedsl-17823.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1375370395 845215 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@athedsl-17823.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Client Quit < 1375370399 403191 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hardly anyone bothers to read it anyway. I would be more worried about the imminent increase in size. < 1375370428 22618 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they'd know about all my subroutines and all my weaknesses < 1375370445 305230 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@athedsl-17823.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1375370449 244013 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they probably still couldn't really do anything useful! like fix that old feature request from years back to add cat ears < 1375370576 468213 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure you can get cat ears as an external "add-on". < 1375370602 978601 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's still that bug where it falls asleep constantly throughout the day < 1375370622 979499 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would not be the first Mozilla product to have this problem < 1375370640 580063 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the emotion engine really could use some tuning < 1375370666 489688 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could use some tuna. < 1375370685 539979 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :delicious, 美味しい tunafish... < 1375370818 936904 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm now imagining like pull requests for people < 1375370852 363326 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure it's a good idea. it'll end with “pull my finger” jokes. < 1375370885 855076 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/msporny/dna/pull/1 < 1375371605 217751 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Error: blob is too big" < 1375372042 826508 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375372062 87462 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.89.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375372703 243219 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375373679 376520 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375376019 859776 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375376198 782741 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375376349 863221 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1375376578 454000 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1375376693 331182 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have any experience with linux on powerpc macs? < 1375376707 348518 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION a little < 1375376740 734046 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you have working audio? < 1375376748 851951 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't recall < 1375377195 339957 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did that thing. < 1375377201 588813 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And had working audio at least on the iBook. < 1375377212 35514 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't be quite certain about the Performa whatever. < 1375377223 221224 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The one where MkLinux was the only choice.) < 1375377284 742100 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.89.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did anyone here have a ZX Spectrum? I'm just writing a bit of Z80 at the moment! < 1375377298 827994 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a speccy friend, does that count? < 1375377303 495829 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I installed debian on an old PPC Mac < 1375377304 244027 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once < 1375377305 814441 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Long ago < 1375377307 496338 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I've written some amount of Z80 code for the TI-86. < 1375378538 471152 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1375379983 429820 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375380990 396274 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1375380990 812263 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 011811Z 22022G34KT 4SM -SHRA BKN012 OVC025 19/17 A2979 RMK SC6SC2 RERA TCU ASOCT PRESRR SLP088 DENSITY ALT 700FT < 1375381041 54854 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god yes < 1375381049 403706 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The weather here is freaking insance < 1375381052 817208 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :insane < 1375381094 10827 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I installed Linux on a bunch of 68k Macs < 1375381108 294061 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it seemed to have calmed down now < 1375381111 619659 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was fast >_> < 1375381116 62219 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375381574 66968 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: where are you from? < 1375381593 612375 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lachine =P < 1375381609 689552 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin voyons don. < 1375381617 856785 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1375381630 398288 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Le monde est petit, et tout et tout =P < 1375381638 498780 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c'est ça qui est ça :p < 1375381671 928798 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375381754 429312 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you asking him for his coordinates and body weigh < 1375381776 633269 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just watch me... < 1375381833 144727 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: je me dois de te poser la La Question: quelles sont tes coördonnées approximatives, et ta masse corporelle? < 1375381842 505972 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(pour les coordonnées, ça va déjà :) ) < 1375381892 141013 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :NullPointerException at Person.getBodyWeight(); < 1375381911 313426 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1375381917 67667 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, 403 ^^ < 1375381925 195965 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll do. < 1375381944 957071 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a number, which is better than what some people gave me. < 1375381955 953334 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stares at coppro < 1375381956 925832 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I hope you omitted the last letter of the French word for weight < 1375381969 52974 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1375381970 382878 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh hm. didn't think about that. < 1375381977 41513 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Why the hell would he do that? =P < 1375381979 202568 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :corporell. < 1375381986 787981 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: it's... uhm... well... < 1375381987 847929 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: it's tradition! < 1375381993 549083 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right! tradition! < 1375382003 560993 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>okay.jpg < 1375382019 503934 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. weight. no, wait. wait. not corporell, mass. < 1375382083 505748 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively you could translate the verb verb "weigh" < 1375382099 206570 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :peser? < 1375382167 447487 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375382254 596065 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1375382258 192181 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in the survey as well < 1375382276 56078 :Guest18414!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cayzksjyjpqhxzwa QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375382286 292160 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: tradition. < 1375382294 2681 :Guest18414!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ldsjpmotrybbjwdr JOIN :#esoteric < 1375382302 153569 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel is plain steeped in tradition. < 1375382339 26560 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375382666 413045 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :for 3-4 minutes at 185° F < 1375382693 45027 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1375382693 256400 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval (185 - 32) * 5 / 9 < 1375382693 603965 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :85.0 < 1375382726 795795 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :just subtract 100 < 1375382758 791491 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval (212 - 32) * 5 / 9 < 1375382759 321415 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :100.0 < 1375382799 429811 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1375383006 214252 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 2 / 0 < 1375383006 774328 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infinity < 1375383008 817312 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woot < 1375383022 876518 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes < 1375383023 119590 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, jconn ), blsqbot ! < 1375383034 925110 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 17 % 2 < 1375383035 577757 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :17 % 2 < 1375383038 305001 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww < 1375383049 471346 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :!prefixes < 1375383051 286439 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, jconn ) , blsqbot ! < 1375383062 971198 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1375383063 272602 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :@prefixes < 1375383063 510161 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1375383072 657882 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are all of the bots from different people? < 1375383075 399569 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :`prefixes < 1375383079 48633 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, jconn ) , blsqbot ! < 1375383085 714615 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo and EgoBot are both from Gregor < 1375383088 116004 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :)prefixes < 1375383098 581096 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stop flooding channel now < 1375383105 770204 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I could bring mine here too =) < 1375383114 83951 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course! < 1375383120 216117 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :To help them get closer to a majority < 1375383123 208708 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And take us over < 1375383134 842383 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine is metasepia, fungot is fizzie's, jconn is jafet's (I think). < 1375383135 264552 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i actually was wondering. :p http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/ help:... :i have an alghoritm witch describe low levels bits operation that should be < 1375383162 705306 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to parse this for wayyy too long < 1375383189 466063 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll bring my bot here, then < 1375383193 917869 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just have to fix her first >_> < 1375383198 957334 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :She forgot about prefixes < 1375383219 85075 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So she reacts to anything that looks like a command, whether or not she's supposed to < 1375383222 597093 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANYWAY =P < 1375383264 540917 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1375383264 840476 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://git.zem.fi/fungot/blob/HEAD:/fungot.b98 < 1375383268 719022 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Shameless: plug.) < 1375383281 669394 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/Roujo/Emily-Core < 1375383304 873625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: jconn is nobody from here's. < 1375383310 714649 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, sgeo's if anything :p < 1375383325 977766 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :java bot :'( < 1375383329 973102 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something tells me there's quite an overlap between Agora and here =P < 1375383333 461582 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right < 1375383338 494658 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't like Java, do you =P < 1375383375 950789 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you agree that there should be some sort of "esolang bots only" rule? < 1375383376 420279 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i really wish someone had layed down the law and taken away he damn thing when i know that < 1375383386 953379 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could be a yes. < 1375383415 266084 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, let me bring my Brainfuck bot instead < 1375383429 824969 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Emily is built on an Esolang < 1375383434 201298 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a Superset of Java < 1375383441 692944 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And build using the same compiler < 1375383446 740732 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And runs on the JVM < 1375383447 815220 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1375383448 781709 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :<_< < 1375383500 126912 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1375383509 140801 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the hell is fungot coded in < 1375383509 417197 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: i never have! he wont let me do my tribute to fishnet stockings... < 1375383522 424489 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1375383523 126496 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1375383534 646549 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^src < 1375383536 605155 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1375383536 823596 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://git.zem.fi/fungot/blob/HEAD:/fungot.b98 < 1375383538 702125 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw that easlier today < 1375383542 593818 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :earlier* < 1375383544 367149 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yeah < 1375383548 555558 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the code in front of me < 1375383554 822268 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can't figure out what language it is < 1375383558 436628 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befunge-98 < 1375383561 872665 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1375383566 213493 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1375383569 245049 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 2D one < 1375383593 472838 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1375383593 701015 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1375383608 789465 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help show < 1375383609 23252 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1375383612 167928 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp =P < 1375383615 968183 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show < 1375383616 189573 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo reverb rev rot13 rev2 fib wc ul cho choo pow2 source help hw srmlebac uenlsbcmra scramble unscramble asc ord prefixes tmp test celebrate wiki chr ha rainbow rainbow2 welcome me tell eval elikoski list ping < 1375383621 268491 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1375383745 380130 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell counts as an esolang? right? < 1375383822 304874 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it's a very elaborate joke, I'm pretty sure the haskell people are serious about it < 1375383931 268485 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: also, have you looked at ursala? < 1375383952 799782 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1375383996 328230 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: last time I tried, my brain suddenly froze for no apparent reason, and when I regained consiousness I had tribal paintings on my body. < 1375384084 154108 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a: orchestra playing video game music concert: here. < 1375384092 556577 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand those things are quite popular. < 1375384136 447931 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They've also promised an "only at Assembly" mega-surprise at the end, so now I'm going to have to sit here through this all just to see something that's probably something really lame. < 1375384155 740452 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you're at assembly? < 1375384171 532826 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Every time since 1996. < 1375384188 108537 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Okay, with one exception.) < 1375384194 732485 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ursala ~&al?\~&ar ~&aa^&~&afahPRPfafatPJPRY+ ~&farlthlriNCSPDPDrlCS2DlrTS2J,^|J/~& ~&rt!=+ ^= ~&s+ ~&H(-+.|=&lrr;,|=&lrl;,|=≪+-, ~&rgg&& ~&irtPFXlrjrXPS; ~&lrK2tkZ2g&& ~&llrSL2rDrlPrrPljXSPTSL)+-, < 1375384198 713958 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1375384219 652883 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(extract of https://github.com/gueststar/Ursala/blob/master/contrib/sudoku.fun) < 1375384225 633092 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that isn't an ideal example of ursala code because it lacks the random comprehensible substrings jammed in the midle < 1375384237 292255 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where it briefly pretends to be a normal language < 1375384242 33311 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels extremely weird for a moment < 1375384341 166245 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: oh, two other traditions besides bot abuse and coördinating: `? and `quote < 1375384497 414192 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-34-9.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375384711 142586 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-239.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1375384888 387521 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-34-9.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375384961 883118 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that? < 1375384963 917010 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1375384965 478565 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1375384965 758640 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        | < 1375384966 37860 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69      o/`¯º < 1375384968 518591 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rofl < 1375384970 470819 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1375384972 62946 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :659) (I vehemently oppose the SNP because they want closer ties with Sweden.) < 1375384977 277158 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Roujo < 1375384978 611908 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375384984 509062 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote boily < 1375384986 111195 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :925) boily: the man eating chicken is just a normal man, it's quite common to eat chicken in some parts of the world \ 926) ~eval 1+2 Error (127): this is a great bot boily i love it \ 935) not only there is no God, but try to find an APL keyboard on Sunday. \ 938) ais523: I'm not sure my < 1375384988 715155 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1375384989 669815 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp < 1375384991 13467 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm off < 1375384991 990788 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cya =) < 1375384999 397703 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-41-180.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375385008 416685 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Roujo < 1375385010 802896 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​11Roujo: Welcome 11t11o the inter08natio09nal hu09b for08 esoteric programming langua14ge des07ig04n and 04de05ployment! Fo09r02 more information11, c09heck ou11t our wiki: h02ttp://esol03angs13.org/14wiki/M05ain_Page. (For the ot04her kind of02 esoterica, try #esoteric o07n12 02irc.d06al.net.) < 1375385030 58409 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval (1, 2) ^. _1 < 1375385032 28961 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1375385046 248450 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-41-180.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should "mix it up", elliott < 1375385063 514222 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval "hello" ^. folded . enum . to Sum < 1375385064 71674 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): Couldn't match type `GHC.Types.Int' with `GHC.Types.Char' < 1375385064 281214 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Expected type: (a0 < 1375385064 495239 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> Control.Lens.Internal.Getter.Accessor (Data.Monoid.Sum a0) a0) < 1375385064 495457 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> GHC.Types.Char < 1375385064 495568 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> Control.Lens.Internal.Getter.Accessor < 1375385064 495675 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Data.Monoid.Sum a0) GHC.Types.Char < 1375385065 300247 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Actual type: (a0 < 1375385065 506614 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> Control.Lens.Internal.Getter.Accessor (Data.Monoid.Sum a0) a0) < 1375385066 269600 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> GHC.Types.Int < 1375385066 470001 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> Control.Lens.Internal.Getter.Accessor < 1375385067 261296 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Data.Monoid.Sum a0) GHC.Types.Int < 1375385071 700173 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval "hello" ^. folded . re enum . to Sum < 1375385072 508246 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sum {getSum = 532} < 1375385248 669170 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: mix what up. < 1375385299 827418 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-41-180.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the welcome! Roujo has "been" around the "block" you gotta get some other greet's going < 1375385316 15376 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo, you do it. < 1375385384 777422 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo "@ping" < 1375385385 809170 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"@ping" < 1375385390 355038 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo ~ping < 1375385391 384264 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​~ping < 1375385401 931189 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Invisible character, right? < 1375385411 271015 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. very annoying. < 1375385429 149068 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-41-180.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME Roujo < 1375385431 60927 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ROUJO: WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE DESIGN AND DEPLOYMENT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: HTTP://ESOLANGS.ORG/WIKI/MAIN_PAGE. (FOR THE OTHER KIND OF ESOTERICA, TRY #ESOTERIC ON IRC.DAL.NET.) < 1375385437 681482 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-41-180.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're lucky i'm here for HR, elliott. < 1375385481 340361 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wElCoMe Roujo < 1375385482 362889 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: wElCoMe: not found < 1375385485 919484 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about `welcome run through a thesaurus < 1375385501 869513 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :genius < 1375385512 608638 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should pick different words each time though < 1375385545 463160 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be hard to make sure it picked actual matches though-- what am i saying, that just makes it even better < 1375385583 588207 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's try and ping idlers on this channel, and see how the respond to the thesaurelcome. < 1375385598 289524 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/how the/how they/ < 1375385608 706968 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-41-180.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :greetings from the transnational core of odd computation system architecture and diaspora! to learn more, try our website: http://oddcomputation.net/. (For another sort of oddness, check out http://www.ioof.org/ < 1375385623 258965 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ioof??? < 1375385684 669864 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :want to add "the transnational core of odd computation system architecture and diaspora" to the topic but it would get too long :( < 1375385707 428828 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Satisfying facing dramaturgic foreign nerve centre because arcane prioritise jargon map also formation < 1375385713 828199 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"for another sort of oddness" is also fantastic < 1375385720 883048 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could use shadyurl to shorten that google docs link < 1375385729 458179 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, that reminds me of a certain kind of sci-fi < 1375385759 578611 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"odd computation" is a surprisingly good description of esolangs < 1375385826 790840 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas higher clue inquiry away us wiki < 1375385913 833247 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inasamuch as comic more friendly like mysticism shot #esoteric onward irc.dal.net < 1375385915 375005 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION applies electrodes to Taneb's brain and do a high-voltage reset of his language center < 1375385923 722554 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonjour < 1375385947 668005 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, c'est pas mal mieux! < 1375385956 403295 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ça va? < 1375385984 930385 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ça va, ça va. il fait un peu trop humide à mon goût dehors, mais à part de ça ça va plutôt bien. comment est-ce que ça se porte à hexham? < 1375386037 53975 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Le temps est chaud < 1375386048 30949 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Je n'aime pas ça < 1375386077 848611 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, aidez-moi! Je ne veux pas parler français, pas plus! < 1375386125 128782 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :la résitance est futile. prépare-toi à devenir canadien! < 1375386129 144971 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Je ne comprend pas? < 1375386172 956232 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canadien? Je pensais que je devenais belge!+ < 1375386173 175607 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: nothing to see here. everything is fine. Taneb is okay, he's certainly not calling for help. < 1375386184 359692 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ah non, pour ça il faut parler à Koen. < 1375386229 689740 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION jette vers le haut < 1375386233 242543 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :see kids, this is what happens when you pretend canada is real < 1375386298 400423 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need to pretend Canada is real, because I am at Canada, and here Canada is real. < 1375386330 218040 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-41-180.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's not saying much, narnia is real in narnia too < 1375386348 690331 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION prend les électrodes et les insère retour dans son cerveau < 1375386352 830176 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH < 1375386358 490527 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I suppose, but I live at Canada. < 1375386359 199375 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god that is so much better < 1375386381 109716 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have coppro, cpressey, Roujo, zzo38, and myself. < 1375386399 730602 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. Taneb escaped. come back here, you felon! < 1375386828 53149 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1375386872 48861 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375387284 432281 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375387304 462799 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375387737 173016 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any strmove command in any C? < 1375387764 912250 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-41-180.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that, strcpy + free? < 1375387773 94279 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like memmove except for strcpy? < 1375387776 835041 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I hope not.) < 1375387796 812803 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes that is what I mean. < 1375387839 823376 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-41-180.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... the source and dest can overlap? < 1375387922 934779 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could still use memmove for that but if there was strmove that would work too. < 1375387953 265976 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-41-180.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's strmove for then. < 1375387991 913520 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just like you could use memcpy instead of strcpy if you use strlen, but you could make it not require strlen if you use strcpy or strmove < 1375388054 3896 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1375388060 353945 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently my bank card expired in March < 1375388123 974655 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't think you get the same benefit, though. < 1375388130 354052 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1375388137 963526 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What benefit? < 1375388202 263465 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, with strcpy, you only have to iterate over the string once, whereas with strlen+memcpy you'd have to do it twice. < 1375388262 4146 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only a string, and it shouldn't be very long. besides, iterating over it twice still means the overall procedure is O(n). < 1375388286 74287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(now I see) < 1375388298 10235 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I remember someone's benchmark correctly, strlen+memcpy is often faster than strcpy, so that might not be much of a benefit < 1375388326 844233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If strlen+memcpy is faster than strcpy, then strcpy should be implemented as strlen+memcpy, clearly. < 1375388370 626801 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess people thought anything with a single pass would so *obviously* be faster they didn't bother to check < 1375388405 154321 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I do mean that if you had a strmove then you wouldn't have to iterate it twice like that. < 1375388406 333964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that because memcpy can copy in bigger blocks? < 1375388416 924305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it might be long; don't assume it isn't? < 1375388422 904362 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should create an algorithm in O(1/n). < 1375388446 674602 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If strlen+memcpy is faster than strcpy then yes it should be implemented like that instead) < 1375388464 648288 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: perhaps that and generally more attention being spent to optimization of memcpy < 1375388484 660506 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: a long string becomes a rope. < 1375388574 84898 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, a string could be any data consisting of a series of nonzero bytes ending in a zero byte. < 1375388611 277960 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lenghts of strings are too damn high! < 1375388678 517409 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION joins the string-lengths-too-damn-high party < 1375388712 254410 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But how long is a piece of string < 1375388733 805084 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-41-180.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody knows. < 1375388832 436061 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also how do I get a new debit card issues < 1375388834 544612 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*issued < 1375388854 616973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: step 1: move to california hth < 1375388874 989996 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, but for that I need money and for that I need a new debit card! < 1375388951 601015 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :first, become Canadian. < 1375388971 904942 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same problem! < 1375389185 285197 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can do that in installments. you just start very slow, with basic stuff like poutine, then progress from that. < 1375389336 576852 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1375389482 579114 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On another note, taking people at face value makes everything seem so much nicer < 1375389488 613833 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :example? < 1375389548 796294 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone said, referring to a thingy that I tried to organize the other day that no-one could make it to, "I don't want it to be just me and Nathan..." (she could make it, but nobody else could) < 1375389596 757650 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, that was packed full of subtext and loads of people got angry at her for saying it < 1375389607 822541 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But to me it seemed perfectly logical < 1375389665 873234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just me and Nathan and Taneb and Ngevd and atriq < 1375389685 920052 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, wait, actually angry < 1375389709 537989 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1375389715 763427 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not actually loads < 1375389717 754033 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe 2 < 1375389738 798420 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1375389746 288276 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know! < 1375389752 256190 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to concern myself with it! < 1375389755 940135 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like being angry! < 1375389784 437855 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-41-180.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375390198 341682 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375391737 22235 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375392207 772031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :error: unresolved name `RcMut`. Did you mean `id`? < 1375392212 792426 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the keys are right next to each other < 1375392557 814548 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1375392559 861972 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375392592 464094 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375393336 425190 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375393706 46044 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375394375 536792 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :error: mismatched types: expected `[type error]` but found struct < 1375394377 506540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit rustc says < 1375395514 218476 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@athedsl-17823.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1375395537 298955 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: imo start the twitter account < 1375395616 148960 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: bug report it < 1375395707 508958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in open source mozilla, bug reports you < 1375395732 218867 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1375395853 291263 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@athedsl-18932.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1375396728 938579 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re the surprise they promised: it was that the orchestra/choir performed an arrangement of the soundtrack of Second Reality. < 1375396773 600829 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like second life < 1375396797 21357 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No; it's an iconic PC demo from 1993 or so. < 1375396815 301345 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :From Future Crew; it's quite the famous. < 1375396830 173825 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the C64 version < 1375396834 795441 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :With music by Skaven and Purple Motion. < 1375396846 811167 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: btw is this ""unsene"" thing a parody y/n < 1375396864 451564 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pouet.net/prod.php?which=63 < 1375396870 831716 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the original < 1375396908 181963 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pouet.net/prod.php?which=1216 This is the C64 remake < 1375396909 821368 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cityscape soundtrack (as performed by orchestra) resembled quite much the one in Final Reality, the early-ish graphics benchmark software those guys did. < 1375396962 14937 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The C64 port is impressively faithful to the original. < 1375397012 685081 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pouet.net/prod.php?which=7259 This is the benchmark. < 1375397023 800493 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(DirectX 5! So modern.) < 1375397104 371562 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what is it < 1375397129 301972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/unsene-secure-and-private-chat-calls-and-photo-and-file-sharing < 1375397136 482076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm do they get pageranks or something if i link to it < 1375397146 463095 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you had talked about it previously but maybe it was someone else < 1375397203 771618 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also e.g. http://unsene.com/blog/2013/06/15/is-most-encryption-broken/ etc. < 1375397211 651533 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"nd now, with the recent revelations about the NSA" but but it goes through their servers and they keep logs < 1375397242 922930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Includes xAES (which was in the running for the AES standard and has much higher bit rates) and we are developing a flexible One Time Pad system, which is nearly immune to cryptanalysis. < 1375397270 22946 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375397274 72301 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Secure your freedom™" that's fantastic < 1375397285 522738 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We don't participate in the NSA's PRISM program. < 1375397295 492172 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if... if they did they'd still have to say that < 1375397324 392530 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :charging extra for a developer account is super classy < 1375397324 671611 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez this makes no sense -_- < 1375397331 512024 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i participate in the NSA's PRISM program! < 1375397333 552108 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what now < 1375397357 122131 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I like that the first thing in the writeup is a TechCrunch quote but it's not, like, giving a favorable opinion of them, just saying what they claim to do < 1375397361 842215 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i didn't even have to sign up or agree to any terms and conditions, it was p. great) < 1375397366 602781 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"They are using computer technology that’s at least 30 years advanced over the computer you have, including quantum computers. These computers are at least 10 billion times faster than what you use. " mmhm. < 1375397382 752415 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and... and they can walk into the server room and just pick up your messages < 1375397383 312978 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Public domain encryption wouldn’t be allowed into the pubic unless it was cracked, because they wouldn’t be able to spy on you." < 1375397397 582218 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :allowed into the pubic < 1375397399 292742 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: quantum computers, man < 1375397400 494366 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375397461 522534 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Encryption looks like this: < 1375397464 112086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wnsd8hgurXE#N69xerpgtnjusdmcir436,cf0dmg09#ns,d < 1375397466 641965 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That’s what the phrase “Encryption looks like this” looks like when it’s encrypted. < 1375397469 169875 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're, like, ten billion times faster. < 1375397518 53310 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1375397526 123084 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a couple of ways to deal with these threats. First, you can identify and remove them and this is how anti-virus software works. You can also install a firewall either in the network cable (which requires hardware) or on the computer itself to monitor and block the packets leaving your computer. < 1375397550 692713 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION takes notes < 1375397559 74360 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think these people are bad < 1375397577 963253 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gosh. < 1375397616 412491 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like technobabble < 1375397733 603042 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you could write your own operating system < 1375397738 683605 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rendering all malware incompatible < 1375397769 593539 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Mission: Impossible-style self-destructing messages" < 1375397811 431796 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what. < 1375397899 303118 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Includes xAES (which was in the running for the AES standard and has much higher bit rates)" "XAES – a more secure and advanced version of AES, ours goes up to 4096 bits, which is über-strong. Unlikely to be broken as this has been customized from standard code libraries that aren’t widely known." < 1375398010 950487 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, their entire marketing model is based on the idea that with more resources you can break anything and are a wizard < 1375398037 183682 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't there a thing where there was an attack that was actually better against AES-256 than 128 because of insufficient mixing or something? < 1375398046 94123 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and like, generalizing to a bigger key size without enough mixing and rounds could be super dangerous < 1375398138 863755 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this unsene thing hurts me < 1375398144 893609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but on the other hand, not being über-strong is also kind of dangerous < 1375398158 344309 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you gotta choose < 1375398179 323726 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanna bet that the implementation has a bunch of obvious weaknesses? < 1375398198 104122 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily those weaknesses are hidden from the NSA> < 1375398222 744025 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :AES-10715086071862673209484250490600018105614048117055336074437503883703510511249361224931983788156958581275946729175531468251871452856923140435984577574698574803934567774824230985421074605062371141877954182153046474983581941267398767559165543946077062914571196477686542167660429831652624386837205668069376 < 1375398239 503781 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora yeah there are related key attacks against AES-192 and AES-256 < 1375398240 864081 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: probably not, it's been customised from standard code libraries that aren't widely known. < 1375398261 803948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: how could they possibly break it if they don't know what it is?? < 1375398316 15950 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott makes a good point < 1375398326 874467 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you should take the bet < 1375398330 263672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is file-sharing like an email attachment? (obviously i have never used any file-sharing program) < 1375398333 544215 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good FAQ < 1375398678 306094 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@athedsl-18932.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375398759 144402 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375399579 982947 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375400004 437605 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375400421 508527 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1375400784 902811 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375401139 940318 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375401330 342393 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375401688 771032 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.89.101 PART :#esoteric < 1375401690 951869 :impomatic!~chatzilla@46.208.89.101 QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212] < 1375401883 714069 :dessos_!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :dessos < 1375402280 893329 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375404430 456205 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In reality, cats do possess the ability to turn themselves right side up in mid-air if they should fall upside-down [...] Toast, however, lacks both the ability and the desire to right itself." wikipedia has some of the most amazing quotes < 1375404466 615793 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel the aleged desire of cats to fall right side up should be gone into deeper here < 1375404476 557851 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should contribute some quotes like these. < 1375404484 37416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia articles don't just right themselves, you know. < 1375404486 485966 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know for NPOV < 1375404526 756006 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay "Toast, however, lacks both the ability and the desire to right itself." has to go down as one of the greatest Wikipedia quotes of all time < 1375404548 837288 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That page should be nominated for deletion. < 1375404555 976324 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"running ensembl vep on vcf from gatk unifiedgenotyper; not sensible right?" help < 1375404574 765800 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd get the same result from tying two cats or two buttered toasts to each other. < 1375404579 636178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except better. < 1375404586 836299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, really, a better result. < 1375404596 586302 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that just doesn't have the same winning combination of animal abuse + breakfast. < 1375404601 856145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This page was nominated for deletion on 2006-03-28. The result of the discussion was no consensus. < 1375404604 955073 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This page was nominated for deletion on 2007-09-03. The result of the discussion was keep. < 1375404640 898203 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: oh wow, that toast quote is even cited < 1375404651 439906 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the cite. < 1375404655 911722 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly it's cited to mythbustersresults.com. < 1375404668 436969 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In an extensive and highly objective test the toast showed no statistical preference for landing buttered side-down or up when dropped. It was an even 50-50 split when the final results were compared. However, when pushed off the side of a table, toast showed preference to flip once and land buttered side down. < 1375404677 375946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The citation doesn't say anything about desire. < 1375404688 516457 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks like vandalism... < 1375404692 96947 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better add a [not in citation] < 1375404694 456441 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, desire ~ preferance. < 1375404700 637400 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll allow it. < 1375404727 726920 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Buttered_cat_paradox&diff=559007493&oldid=557098109 < 1375404733 756832 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that quote should stay for being basicall the best thing < 1375404737 766819 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :great edit summary < 1375404742 626389 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, hey, no. Why are you even concluding that what the toast does is indicative of its preference? What if it's trapped with locked-in-to-toast syndrome? < 1375404758 186376 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :neds a cite to the journal of toast neuroscience < 1375404763 597817 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1375404765 666707 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Buttered_cat_paradox&diff=535743465&oldid=535663473 < 1375404777 116159 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Rory. Thory. < 1375404786 466273 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you nominate things for deletion? < 1375404787 307796 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.153.222 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375404791 536526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I can get oerjan to do it. < 1375404796 330662 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The fact buttered toast lacks cognition does not need to be cited." oh my gosh that edit summary < 1375404800 306693 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot get over that edit summary < 1375404819 886716 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, that's very short-sighted! panpsychism is a serious theory! < 1375404822 976948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, toast, lacking both muscles and a desire to orient any particular way, < 1375404830 636804 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :disappointed in this argument tbh < 1375404832 58076 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1375404848 997066 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what about clams on toast < 1375404859 398568 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clams? < 1375404863 317046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone knows toast is liquid anyway < 1375404865 506799 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know. mussels. < 1375404869 67418 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise how do you drink it < 1375404870 556459 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :checkmate < 1375404870 756127 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry. < 1375404890 97711 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«The output of an [[active noise control]] system which cancels an existing noise, leaving the local environment noise free. The [[comic book]] character [[Iron Man]] used to have a "black light beam" that could darken a room in this manner, and popular [[science fiction]] has a tendency to portray active noise control in this light." The ''[[Batman Beyond]]'' supervillian Shriek also had a weapon like this, which < 1375404898 746840 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott < 1375404901 188528 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you being so shellfish < 1375404920 836918 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRIPLEFIN BLENNY < 1375404929 456776 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :triplefin blenny.. < 1375405058 877593 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/C%CC%AC%CC%A4%CC%AC%CD%94%CC%AE%CC%BA%CC%8B%CC%84%CC%84%CC%82%CC%93%CC%80%CD%A7%CC%90h%CC%BA%CD%8B%CD%A7%CC%93%CC%8F%CC%84%CD%82%CC%89%CC%93%CD%A6a%CD%94%CC%AC%CD%AB%CC%8E%CD%AD%CC%83%CC%83%CD%8A%CC%8A%C3%AC%CC%9C%CD%94%CC%BC%CD%93%CC%B0%CC%B1%CD%8D%CD%88%CC%B0%CC%8A%CC%89%CD%92%C5%88%CC%A4%CC%83%CD%A9%CC%92%CD%9C%CD%9C%CD%9Ef%CC%AA%CC%B2%CC%96%CC%8F%CD%A8%CC%88%CD%8B%CC%83%CC%9Aa%CC%B4%CC%AA%CC%AE%CD%A7%CC%93%CD%A3%CC%88%CC < 1375405075 110342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buttered cat: Wales’s favourite Wikipedia entry < 1375405075 483298 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice it got cut off. < 1375405077 808114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/8867079/Jimmy-Wales-Wikipedia-can-topple-tyrants.html < 1375405136 106922 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: this name seems hard to pronounce < 1375405166 267238 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If this article is deleted I will hew your wife in twain and turn your innards into poisonous snakes. --70.126.190.75 (talk) 01:47, 30 July 2011 (UTC) < 1375405172 437860 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks wikipedia person < 1375405299 7883 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :think you should take this threat seriously < 1375405360 597309 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375405373 749048 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you turn your innards into poisonous snakes? < 1375405382 377852 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :genetic engineering < 1375405390 449315 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1375405450 708463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hugz < 1375406050 329551 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375406134 289090 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`erflist 114 < 1375406135 548987 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: erflist: not found < 1375406154 203349 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cp bin/{empty,erf}list < 1375406157 979130 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375406288 489303 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`erflist 114 < 1375406289 690778 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :erflist 114: < 1375406345 649257 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone even read error function world < 1375406506 79925 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, but I suppose now you have it there in case anyone does < 1375406565 530671 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you read `olist? < 1375406600 940055 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No < 1375406615 36930 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't read any of these things that you have list for updates < 1375406921 971711 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Which things do you read? Maybe we should make lists for them. < 1375406993 482924 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375407012 372357 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375407132 261408 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really read anything regularly, but I do write Dungeons&Dragons recording. < 1375407185 844117 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where? < 1375407196 371455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I read Dungeons&Dragons recording? < 1375407242 481523 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1375407293 753804 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also the DVI compiled of it, and the dungeonsrecording.tex in the same directory which contains macros used for this file < 1375407416 327933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a PDF? < 1375407420 32802 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be better for me. < 1375407471 601615 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No there is none; if you want that you have to compile it yourself. < 1375407502 611637 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you make one? < 1375407509 872126 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, the source file isn't so difficult to read. < 1375407520 64992 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I don't have the program to compile it to PDF < 1375407575 802217 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375407607 982333 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now we are going back to the Boar Head Inn. Some of the chairs are broken, so Kjugobe uses some magic to make up a new chair. He borrows some writing equipment, and writes ``DO NOT SIT HERE PAST THE HOURS OF 6AM'' on the chair. (It seems likely some people will not understand the purpose of this message, ignore it, sit there anyways, and fall on the floor at 6AM when the chair disappears.) < 1375407620 772652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smlist (416) < 1375407622 163079 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :smlist (416): shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy < 1375407624 262108 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1375407929 114215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: who do you play D&D with? < 1375408061 463738 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is Also? < 1375408125 734989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, I suppose, Isolde. < 1375408141 115574 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZODtmaHIQng meanwhile, on the internet. < 1375408194 14358 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.153.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375408407 150392 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: They are other characters; those players aren't always in, but they are the people I know. Kjugobe is my character. < 1375408441 653641 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The name "Also" can certainly cause grammatical confusion, as it sometimes does) < 1375408517 736697 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this kind of story/game? < 1375408520 86965 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile, Isolde goes back to the castle, and tries to serve the chancellor breakfast with these fertilized eggs, but the guards will not let Isolde to do so. Isolde tries to tell them, ``but, the eggs are hatching!'' Isolde hopes that the guards will take a closer look, and that they will immediately hatch and they will get scared to death; or else they will start laughing, fall to the floor, and trip on their own swords and die. < 1375408538 370538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good plan < 1375408578 302941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a big file. I can't read it all right now. < 1375408590 525997 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's OK. I didn't write it all at once either. < 1375408810 802643 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1375409149 345745 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can GCC automatically know that (x&4)>>1 and (x&4?2:0) is equivalent and optimize them into each other? < 1375409194 825388 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find this and other bitwise manipulation is common in C programs I write. < 1375409241 326835 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can find out what GCC optimizes particular code into easily enough. < 1375409309 566760 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the type type of x? < 1375409351 853605 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could be any integer type; but maybe some are different due to the CPU instruction set? I don't know. < 1375409424 72456 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :type type, or kind as we call it < 1375409586 76539 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :&4?2:0 mask bits everyday < 1375409667 16414 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: btw have you considered that the halting problem exists and therefore all optimizers are pointless < 1375409698 426366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :might as well give up now < 1375409708 646101 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't make optimizers pointless. < 1375409726 407999 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375409733 496057 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.153.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even see the connection :/ < 1375409740 346705 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.153.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i'm sure it's a joke, but < 1375409781 706903 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1375409789 759146 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might mean that perfect optimization isn't always necessarily possible for looping programs, though. < 1375409811 367368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might (does) mean that < 1375409830 469218 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly: dont use looping program < 1375409834 106691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's funny because this is how people talk about security? < 1375409876 666584 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.....not completely sure about the "it's funny" part < 1375409902 566695 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you were making that reference? < 1375409914 17045 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :along those lines < 1375409945 807019 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1375410264 989426 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375410325 167775 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hm the new episodes of that show are coming out in ~1.5 weeks < 1375410376 307144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i watch them as they come out or wait until the end < 1375410397 447799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which show < 1375410408 729435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :breaking bad < 1375410425 527592 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen everything thus far < 1375410454 67755 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375410513 428278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I watched season 5 (I) as it came out and I feel good about my choice < 1375410532 238392 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I won't have the restraint to wait until 5 (II) is done to watch it, even if I wanted to < 1375410539 788020 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I want to watch with friends and discuss and such < 1375410916 471790 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375410926 199246 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375411438 531085 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should strcpy return the number of characters in the source string? I think it might be a useful thing for it to do. < 1375411485 342484 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :Ocqueoc < 1375411502 402623 :Ocqueoc!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pronounced OCK-ee-ock. < 1375411518 661327 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is "Ocqueoc", though? < 1375411533 227336 :Ocqueoc!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it's a French word meaning "crooked waters". < 1375411545 232438 :Ocqueoc!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a stream in Presque Isle County. < 1375411553 712269 :Ocqueoc!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I'm sure all of you have heard of. < 1375411636 320509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't heard of it. < 1375411666 412680 :Ocqueoc!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now you have. < 1375411749 832388 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1375411800 465718 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375411800 665752 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1375411800 665911 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375412289 205370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1375412315 442387 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should be a algorithm to generete random UUID? < 1375412348 174510 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) call the microsoft API function 2) done 3) forever < 1375412364 909731 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the program will be cross-platform and not only Microsoft < 1375412393 572978 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/ProBirdRights < 1375412406 803470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell olsner HackEgo cannot send private messages hth < 1375412407 14166 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1375412436 332110 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: then what kinds of messages is it sending me < 1375412452 885890 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :particularly, https://twitter.com/ProBirdRights/status/342822403690352641 < 1375412456 277123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell olsner I mean, in response to public commands. < 1375412456 488058 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1375412713 303080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily I do not believe it is possible to experimentally distinguish extremely huge finite from infinite hth < 1375412713 540411 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1375412871 673051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily the haskell weekly news only has a single quote. <-- and it's not even from #haskell! < 1375412871 872738 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1375412918 182801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily well, I assume. i'd be shocked if knuth showed up there. < 1375412918 382448 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1375412944 454694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:30:59 @remember knuth To help the reader drowning in a sea of abstraction, the following example may serve as a concrete life preserver < 1375412948 493803 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :checkmate < 1375412996 350798 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :knuth, noted computational gangster (frankenstein computer god) < 1375412999 24007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it occurs me that making sea life preservers out of concrete isn't a very good idea. < 1375413034 373768 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on what kind of sea life you want to preserve < 1375413059 673476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :true. i guess if you want to feed the sharks... < 1375413060 714249 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet osedax would be happy to have somewhere to root, insofar as they can feel happiness < 1375413103 833979 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think a life preserver out of concrete would be good to feed the sharks or whatever else either < 1375413175 411270 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375413231 277917 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375413709 899621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait roujo is here, is that my fault? < 1375413711 306776 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375413717 40898 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hi!) < 1375414031 86730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, are we starting to have eerily many quebecois in the channel < 1375414320 338545 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375414367 976074 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375415065 513845 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie Please ^save fungot, i fixed a bug in ^prefixes < 1375415065 751853 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1375415065 951514 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it had all sorts of problems < 1375415080 357519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: oh it wasn't that bad, just a missing space < 1375415080 778171 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://www.randsinrepose.com/ archives/ fnord/ fnord/ 06/ fnord < 1375415092 317859 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1375415092 517663 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1375415410 821487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : java bot :'( <-- wat, jconn is J! < 1375415429 580616 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: click the link :P < 1375415451 608281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh roujo's < 1375415560 899967 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375415629 838631 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375415630 38819 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1375415630 38972 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375415746 849305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ursula < 1375415748 579760 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ursula? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1375415748 999080 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1375415749 198909 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           º¯`\o < 1375415756 259721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ursala < 1375415758 59233 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ursala ~&al?\~&ar ~&aa^&~&afahPRPfafatPJPRY+ ~&farlthlriNCSPDPDrlCS2DlrTS2J,^|J/~& ~&rt!=+ ^= ~&s+ ~&H(-+.|=&lrr;,|=&lrl;,|=≪+-, ~&rgg&& ~&irtPFXlrjrXPS; ~&lrK2tkZ2g&& ~&llrSL2rDrlPrrPljXSPTSL)+-, < 1375415777 468840 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1375415792 448945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/[^ ]* //' wisdom/ursala < 1375415795 209369 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375415797 848882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ursala < 1375415799 288936 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​~&al?\~&ar ~&aa^&~&afahPRPfafatPJPRY+ ~&farlthlriNCSPDPDrlCS2DlrTS2J,^|J/~& ~&rt!=+ ^= ~&s+ ~&H(-+.|=&lrr;,|=&lrl;,|=≪+-, ~&rgg&& ~&irtPFXlrjrXPS; ~&lrK2tkZ2g&& ~&llrSL2rDrlPrrPljXSPTSL)+-, < 1375415834 728997 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, wh < 1375415839 548891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we should just remove `learn if people keep using it wrong. < 1375415911 80264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i think there was another broken one recently but i've forgotten which one. < 1375415913 839163 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Instead of removing it, require the first character of the argument to be ^O. < 1375415925 780034 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way only people who ""know the trick"" can use it. < 1375415932 879339 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :today I learned something very strange.  If I take coin from a uniform distribution of biased coins and flip it 3 times, 1/4th of the time it will come up with 3 heads < 1375415941 369189 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¬_¬ < 1375415969 901386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: erm... < 1375415974 90031 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: as in the distribution of the bias is uniform? < 1375416028 589428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch, i think that may require a triple integral or something < 1375416037 559463 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1375416081 9523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok if p is the probability of heads then p^3 is the probability of 3 heads < 1375416134 810316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so \int_0^1 p^3 dp = p^4/4 |_0^1 = 1/4, yep < 1375416167 670378 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it generallized to n flips < 1375416187 589362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/(n+1), then < 1375416187 810458 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the probability of any given number of heads is 1/(n+1) < 1375416194 850002 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that works with oerjan's fine. < 1375416197 831218 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1375416241 712078 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375416241 952191 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1375416241 952341 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375416360 984114 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess what the probability of 7 heads in 17 flips of a coin drawn from my collection < 1375416365 632068 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is < 1375416428 350590 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1375416432 841160 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eleven < 1375416439 900260 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :balls < 1375416451 672897 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how people started welcoming Roujo just after he said he was off < 1375416462 350762 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/18 < 1375416487 780303 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'welcome roujo < 1375416510 261236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: wait, don't you mean 17 heads hth < 1375416522 560793 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just \int_0^1 p^7(1-p)^10 dp right < 1375416531 601855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, is it _any_ single number, huh < 1375416534 572374 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the number of heads doesn't matter, the probability is the same < 1375416542 890547 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is what surprised me < 1375416555 341736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1375416595 153508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except p^n(1-p)^(k-n) is harder to integrate in your head < 1375416595 355333 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's so surprising about it, imo < 1375416614 671789 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: I'm way too used to fair coins < 1375416630 21328 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well it's pretty easy to see that it's going to be 0 for p=0 i think? < 1375416642 51695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: imo what was that thing you were saying about comma categories ages ago < 1375416654 591255 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: just look up comma categories < 1375416662 250585 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: we need the difference between 0 and 1 < 1375416675 30721 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: alt. look up whatever else you want to know about < 1375416677 561358 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375416682 541966 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: yes, i just read about them. but why were you talking about them once < 1375416740 572071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my memory is failing me :'( < 1375416742 410890 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: because the formulation of free objects [and other things] i knew at the time was all about a comma instead of adjunction < 1375416759 132939 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the formulation in terms of adjunction is much nicer < 1375416771 717746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, free objects < 1375416779 997915 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't adjunctions great though < 1375416787 440544 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375416794 397297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i should understand the comma categories thing < 1375416830 824714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know how limits are adjoint to diagonal functors? p. great < 1375416838 481876 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375416861 461106 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nlab.mathforge.org/nlab/show/comma+category comma categroy is pretty easy < 1375416910 771103 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375416911 631601 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i "got to go" now though "have fun" < 1375416942 72769 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bye mnoqy" < 1375417008 401997 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wolfram says the integral involves hypergeometry. maybe it is not right < 1375417602 103608 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375417641 23795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can do it with binomials obviously but what a mess < 1375417693 672675 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :p^k(1-p)^(n-k) = p^k + (n-k over 2)p^(k+1) + ... + p^n < 1375417767 955930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/(k+1) + (n-k over 2)/(k+2) + ... + 1/(n+1) < 1375417781 263569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the integral < 1375417822 772133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you just have to show that's 1/(n-k+1) hth < 1375417834 323445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my brain cannot do that right now) < 1375417841 344916 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1375417849 823372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*1/(n+1) < 1375417869 203354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait how can that be right < 1375417892 793341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's already a 1/(n+1) _before_ you add the rest < 1375417906 272973 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION probably messed up somewhere < 1375418054 821842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait no, it's bike's fault >:) < 1375418110 665512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :p^7(1-p)^10 isn't correct, you have to multiply by the number of possible orderings < 1375418142 884386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :still a mess though. < 1375418632 205995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "In reality, cats do possess the ability to turn themselves right side up in mid-air if they should fall upside-down [...] Toast, however, lacks both the ability and the desire to right itself." wikipedia has some of the most amazing quotes < 1375418651 235708 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375418670 475126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt they actually tested the toast's desire scientifically. there might be a hidden tragedy here. < 1375418696 997906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :see: intelligent calcium. < 1375419080 426897 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Maybe I can get oerjan to do it. <-- not a chance hth < 1375419136 896628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not even a chance equal to.........0? < 1375419186 426512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: let's not go into quantum teleportation territory here twnh < 1375419680 317422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Apparently it's a French word meaning "crooked waters". <-- ok-dokey < 1375419969 277489 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so multiply by n!? < 1375420030 898736 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, no. wow i'm bad imo < 1375420051 783781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: as in https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=45.518647,-115.058205&spn=0.006668,0.016512 ? < 1375420630 250411 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.153.222 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1375420679 499224 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no, (n over k) < 1375420692 208905 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1375420742 39896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nixon creek, sounds ominous < 1375420785 109016 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, integral still looks nasty. < 1375420875 771176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably there's some trick. < 1375420898 8964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or more intuitive argument < 1375421162 405710 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork has abandoned us. we will never know the trick. < 1375421655 422040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1375422523 673344 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375422553 173094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I was attempting to convince someone that one of the appendices to Lord of the Rings just consists of Saruman attempting to teach LISP to the dwarves." < 1375422852 486487 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok somebody needs to help me understand this formula because it's bullshit < 1375422978 914097 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :say f is a function in a field extension with minimal polynomial p(f) = sum of r_n*f^n from n=0 in whatever field. then f' = (sum of r_n'*f^n from n=0)/(sum of n*f^(n-1) from n=1) < 1375423002 233758 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and those ^ are multiplication. srry elliott < 1375423483 914663 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arithmetic_derivative fucking christ i'm doomed. < 1375423737 439309 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I didn't remember getting a public response at all to that command, so I thought it didn't work, but then you responded instead < 1375423984 479057 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kpuikvkjawwpnqyj QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375424037 906724 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ujwlrwrvehkuzqqn QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1375424144 965737 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good news i did some algebra that makes no sense and derived this somehow. fuck everything < 1375424182 836426 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how algebra works Bike............. < 1375424256 970128 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean i kind of went "what if i pretended that *five minutes of staring blankly at a wall in sleepy incomprehension* and then did algebra". i don't even know what the nonsensical pretendingness was < 1375424490 845766 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-azdhvicwvwmxtdtl JOIN :#esoteric < 1375425937 203545 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok when i wake up give me an example of an uncomputable continuous function. thx < 1375426261 138574 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can make one if you have an integrable uncomputable function. < 1375426400 925064 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^save < 1375426401 298676 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1375426415 745039 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: REQUEST ACKNOWLEDGED < 1375426460 6731 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375427311 409803 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1375427341 440370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1375428584 745571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: when are you scheduling the next `olist update < 1375428602 596141 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been since sunday or something < 1375428671 374646 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375428720 178198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: later hth < 1375428752 624278 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was hoping for sooner than that < 1375429453 447851 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1375429983 543325 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is IOCCC open now? < 1375430074 138111 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1375430231 469470 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does the number of entries have a decimal point in it? < 1375430675 352565 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375430740 195393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Life's just a mood ring we're not allowed to see | 22nd IOCCC is open: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | jsvine is doing an esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q/viewform | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1375431038 291456 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compare the IOCCC rules with Z-Comp rules. Some people say the Z-Comp rules are really convoluted. What is your opinion? < 1375431105 432312 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kplvglgyzjeqihoy JOIN :#esoteric < 1375431595 962472 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375431816 868859 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-azdhvicwvwmxtdtl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375431879 313254 :Ghoul_!~uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jxgfbenbxhovcjcy JOIN :#esoteric < 1375431910 546239 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :IOCRC: The International Obfuscated Contest Rules Contest. < 1375432196 800037 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you going to make that too? < 1375432424 274077 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. But it is logical. < 1375433814 442368 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375433888 580135 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375433920 478256 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375434662 414996 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375437110 558613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1375438522 796817 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is consciousness like the roundness of a sphere? < 1375439050 76025 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although this sentence begins with the word "because", it is false. -- Douglas R Hofstadter < 1375439153 748169 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the meanings of "true" and "false" were switched, then this sentence would not be false. < 1375439856 423723 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1375440352 79294 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375440410 359216 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375440607 509837 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I took this photo from the thing yesterday: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130802-assembly.jpg < 1375440767 81186 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375440803 482405 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375441447 374431 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375441510 336755 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375441608 60885 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375441647 499676 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375442603 984341 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, fizzie was at ASM? < 1375442927 109869 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375442966 542526 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1375443058 235606 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375443159 724915 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Yes; just about to go back there. < 1375443168 368594 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neat < 1375443181 823365 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if anyone else from here is < 1375443288 488114 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been blabbing about the event yesterday, and at least no-one admitted anything. < 1375443332 732182 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1375443352 481145 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375443377 165069 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375443444 594810 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp, time to hop on a bike (not Bike). -> < 1375443527 905107 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375443542 156535 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375443737 935082 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :elliott > 1375443738 211499 NAMES :#esoteric < 1375443743 115638 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375443746 119900 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :MBEFDC!*@* > 1375443746 141921 NAMES :#esoteric < 1375443757 956786 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375443761 841436 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obviously a bot, IP doesn't match anyone in the channel, doesn't appear to do anything, can't keep its connection.) < 1375443774 341038 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -o :elliott > 1375443774 366063 NAMES :#esoteric < 1375443783 116697 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a crappy bot < 1375443937 141086 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375444846 264917 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1375445281 104719 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375445545 402651 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :peter capaldi is the favourite for the 12th doctor < 1375445575 363279 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words fail me for some reason < 1375445638 328946 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that guy- < 1375445645 310220 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's malcolm tucker < 1375445652 585067 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right okay < 1375445664 44544 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1375445664 746001 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he also played someone in local hero apparently but i haven't seen that film in ages < 1375445665 584781 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure < 1375445682 849060 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he's 'the favourite', with all the pinches of salt the term implies < 1375445776 503829 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure if there's any better evidence than the fevered imaginings of the autistic children bookies use to set the odds for things < 1375446021 258632 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Billie Piper, former Doctor’s assistant Rose Tyler, is the only woman listed by Paddy Power to take on the title role after it was rumoured earlier this week that an actress might be in the running." < 1375446027 127032 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :these predictions do not seem credible < 1375446040 48682 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1375446069 686854 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean if davies was still running then maybe < 1375446078 520019 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1375446143 309304 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice to know the most likely way they'll shake up the expectations for the doctor is... casting an old white guy < 1375446915 223110 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375447271 644647 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375448067 870283 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375448080 910895 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good orange morning! < 1375448101 314252 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good orange juice. < 1375448214 778637 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have experimental proof at our office that bananas are radioactive. we have this fruit delivery service, and the half-life of bananas is less than 200 kiloseconds. < 1375448373 219120 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What do they decay to? < 1375448427 721671 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oranges. < 1375448456 869544 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there are also some pear by-products, but observations are scarce and not experimentally supported. < 1375448459 5660 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly you could derive some sort of banana-orange dating system out of it. < 1375448485 536878 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my colleagues are working on that. (no joke) < 1375448489 102359 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you have a pear of bananas? < 1375448492 663704 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you account for that? < 1375448531 445784 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, a SIGGRAPH conference presentation. < 1375448561 549203 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's some former-Remedy current-NVidia-research guy.) < 1375448659 312586 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.153.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375448674 609408 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: we'll discuss this subject in a future paper. < 1375448680 792103 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: still assembling? < 1375448684 575330 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1375448691 177652 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I posted a photo. < 1375448712 382250 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I told my parent's that I met a fellow Montrealer on IRC < 1375448718 420843 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :They asked what the channel topic was < 1375448719 111700 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375448728 702462 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130802-assembly.jpg < 1375448744 349835 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I then had the hardest time explaining the point of making esoteric languages < 1375448745 353930 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1375448755 665994 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have a feeling this presentation is going to be perhaps dumbed-down for the audience.) < 1375448763 281632 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"But why don't they just use Java or C++?" < 1375448775 20959 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375448788 824181 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, shiny! < 1375448850 419163 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: And think, every tiny point of light is a real, breathing human (hunched in front of a monitor). < 1375448879 554206 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So far this presentation is just talking about what research is in general.) < 1375448882 911839 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite. there are also finns < 1375448884 451612 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks huge and scary < 1375448914 943981 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I work for a free software company. my parents are used to me doing weird stuff to computers and electronic parts :D < 1375448945 321058 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, so are mine =P < 1375448950 560604 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :My father found it interesting < 1375448957 96088 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: where do you work? < 1375448996 74775 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://www.savoirfairelinux.com// < 1375449066 465018 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mother was confused as to why one would try make their life harder on purpose =P < 1375449073 175295 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Because they can" was my answer, really < 1375449092 274454 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For fun, for the challenge" < 1375449121 103452 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for outdoing others at bfjoust. < 1375449141 197966 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be fair, I should have went with Shakespear of Chef, not Brainfuck and Malbolge < 1375449148 657982 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: "Because it was there" is the traditional why-climb-a-mountain answer. < 1375449150 752289 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That too =P < 1375449152 451933 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: cool < 1375449157 733460 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What could possibly go wrong? http://youtu.be/lMuJKsUjD_o < 1375449242 480113 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What < 1375449245 845685 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that even possible? < 1375449495 494827 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: wow < 1375450087 487057 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judgement for paper 1: fancy. < 1375450205 508200 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375450208 257276 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375450218 739948 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Say I'd want to make an IRC bot in a language that you actually approve of. What would you suggest? < 1375450247 568891 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um... Haskell is my go-to language for most things < 1375450250 509496 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack < 1375450250 767494 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1375450335 553694 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: mine's in haskell. < 1375450375 603994 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do you approve of bots written in esolangs? < 1375450390 565425 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1375450521 72207 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :say, do we have a coffeescript bot here? < 1375450580 998725 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paper 2: also fancy. < 1375451456 472706 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also heard there was a "Cory Doctorow petting zoo" downstairs after his talk. < 1375451480 952264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know what that is like. < 1375451581 404907 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :because no one wants to see cory doctorow give a talk? < 1375451637 832847 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand there was a reasonable audience. < 1375451665 912507 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :From the lityle I heard, corruption in the government. < 1375451700 627745 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are the papers you are judging < 1375451775 136129 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375451818 105788 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A sec. < 1375451864 794244 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://mediatech.aalto.fi/publications/graphics/GMLT/ < 1375451890 599401 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://mediatech.aalto.fi/publications/graphics/FourierSVBRDF/ < 1375451906 512251 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a two-in-one presentation. < 1375451946 416309 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375451960 620839 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1375451969 137087 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are you? < 1375452019 278309 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.assembly.org/summer13/ < 1375452087 861120 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's a set of seminars on various topics, presumably to offset all that gaming.) < 1375452114 175335 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :whooooa a livestream < 1375452259 111460 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have a separate channel for the seminars. < 1375452278 146413 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure if there's anything interesting coming up. < 1375452328 297500 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main themes are graphics/game-related programmering and game0development businessy things. < 1375452355 635761 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe most the business talks were yesterday.) < 1375452523 547816 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this fast music competition (as usual) kind of has too many entries. < 1375452538 103743 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're in like #19 now. < 1375452564 537446 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've forgotten 80% of these before I can get to the voting page. < 1375452824 878611 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375453191 982979 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375454714 52800 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375454875 519155 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375454925 809079 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1375455142 133720 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is assembly considered an esoteric language? =P < 1375455162 203993 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I did make a virtual CPU that can run opcodes that kind of look like assembly < 1375455221 256002 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, I implemented *that* in Java < 1375455326 421693 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some esolangs that are designed to look like weird hardware architectures. < 1375455327 802416 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Check out Checkout < 1375455341 999357 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION blinks < 1375455350 651782 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, uh... jump to ByteByteJump, or whatever it was called. < 1375455421 237807 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :risk your sanity on OISC. < 1375455422 946805 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sur if assembly is esoteric but it's fun! < 1375455435 560256 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And BytePusher, which is the machine around ByteByteJump.) < 1375455709 774147 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sure < 1375455761 246942 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck sur < 1375455762 672660 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There certainly seems to be some overlap between esolangers and... assemblers... er, that's not the term. < 1375455771 444009 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surströmming. < 1375455777 744926 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375455786 70076 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing I can't seem to find in Montréal. < 1375455788 534121 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck sur < 1375455789 63016 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sur- definition: over. < 1375455805 581276 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora's not over assembly. < 1375455806 547107 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck surströmming < 1375455806 882079 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1375455813 30398 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck fermented fish < 1375455813 306184 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fermented fish is a traditional preparation of fish. < 1375455825 445666 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And ducks don't eat fermented fish.) < 1375455844 831602 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck roujo < 1375455845 258137 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1375455900 143722 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not a duck, unfortunately < 1375455902 54532 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the Gate < 1375455903 911241 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the Key < 1375455916 551770 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: um, what constitutes being over it < 1375455978 639146 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any hexhamite logged on? I wonder if two canadians meeting IRL will cause the same kind of apocalypse as two hexhamers joining? < 1375456000 371 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Being "sur". < 1375456004 560557 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sur"? < 1375456008 405126 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sur. < 1375456010 630369 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1375456011 417446 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sûr < 1375456015 311587 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: See above. < 1375456016 562316 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is from hexham I think < 1375456021 5946 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, it was just a typo < 1375456037 210244 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: No, it definitely had some deeper meaning. < 1375456062 276140 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sur < 1375456065 395032 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sur? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1375456065 978195 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          | < 1375456066 241949 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        o/`¯º < 1375456082 307151 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1375456084 20415 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :See `? for further details. < 1375456086 320464 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww < 1375456102 275020 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do take that one level deeper. < 1375456104 305329 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I would have to disadvise the meeting based on my measurements and predictions < 1375456110 423287 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I suspect it would not destroy the entire earth < 1375456117 99424 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Barely < 1375456126 925529 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Do you play Ingress by any chance? < 1375456373 13617 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's ingress? < 1375456390 199164 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, why doesn't this thing do 5 GHz wiffery. < 1375456425 970486 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375456473 187582 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was supposed to get my Ouya Wednesday, but UPS screwed up, and it very probably got stolen. < 1375456481 560943 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I have to wait for Amazon to send me a replacement. < 1375456511 23877 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: "Oh yeah?" < 1375456580 973464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did they put in the Ouya? Some Tegra thing? < 1375456582 603037 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I phoned them twice, and if I still haven't got anything by next Friday, then I'll have a new one. (delivered to the office. not getting fooled twice over this.) < 1375456592 591590 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a very shiny tegra 3. < 1375456613 35442 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :next model will have a tegra 4, but it's not confirmed and there is some speculation that they may even upgrade to a 5. < 1375456613 719483 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do the shiny Tegra 3 and a matte Tegra 3 differ? < 1375456630 431110 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a Tegra 3 in this tablet, but I think it's a bit duller. < 1375456633 737748 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is more feng shui. < 1375456708 477407 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375456744 739392 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1375457470 881757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This (Bluetooth mini-)keyboard turns itself off when one closes the cover... and apparently also when the cover is too near even if not closed. (Instructions warn against keeping it close to the keyboard.) < 1375457488 255770 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes me wonder what kind of a magic it uses to sense the cover nearby. < 1375457567 307859 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :assymetrical warp matrix, but newer models use and inverted quantum variance. < 1375457583 496848 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/and/an/ < 1375457598 226919 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ic" < 1375457619 506367 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(gotta love online technobabble generators :D) < 1375459031 997965 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist (907) < 1375459033 464926 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist (907): shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1375459563 87690 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm I got a false highlight in another channel because someone's shortened URL happened to contain "kmc" < 1375459566 816953 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder why that hasn't happened before < 1375459696 12509 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375459975 781083 :john_metcalf!~john_metc@94.116.28.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375460000 431354 :john_metcalf!~john_metc@94.116.28.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Waiting for train... < 1375460024 744147 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just train in general? < 1375460025 123210 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1375460086 465253 :john_metcalf!~john_metc@94.116.28.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. A specific train. It's running 6 minutes late :-( < 1375460126 967128 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375460364 223881 :john_metcalf!~john_metc@94.116.28.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Cambridge. Visited The Centre for Computing History today... < 1375460385 426118 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1375460460 549941 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it train < 1375460469 847706 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am utterly confused, unbound is returned NXDOMAIN for everything on my RPi. The local unbound on my desktop works just fine. < 1375460471 783571 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :With everything I mean EVERYTHING, including the root servers < 1375460478 374866 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking to me? < 1375460497 205212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hacked by chinese < 1375460502 332067 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly < 1375460548 401305 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I switched it over to 8.8.8.8 for now while figuring this out < 1375460696 13584 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to report everything in the cache though...? < 1375460705 41613 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I ask it to dump the cache I mean < 1375460709 247371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1375460713 946856 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1375460718 155235 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric : hmm I got a false highlight in another channel because someone's shortened URL happened to contain "kmc" wonder why that hasn't happened before // because 26^3 = 17576 < 1375460724 65670 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an `olist at the end of the logs hth < 1375460742 37116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1375460758 643381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already found it < 1375460799 569842 :Ocqueoc!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :tswett < 1375460850 532743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: but I see like a hundred shortened URLs per day < 1375460867 592493 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, probably more, digits tends to be common in URL shortening too < 1375460920 12819 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yeah, this was in the most optimistic assumption. < 1375460960 432930 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the fuck, "dig" returns the IP for example.com from the local unbound but "host" returns NXDOMAIN < 1375460964 9712 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is making no sense < 1375461054 40389 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote well he's 'the favourite', with all the pinches of salt the term implies i'm not sure if there's any better evidence than the fevered imaginings of the autistic children bookies use to set the odds for things < 1375461057 976572 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1080) well he's 'the favourite', with all the pinches of salt the term implies i'm not sure if there's any better evidence than the fevered imaginings of the autistic children bookies use to set the odds for things < 1375461280 466036 :john_metcalf!~john_metc@94.116.28.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375461339 21103 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :An example program that demonstrates how to create commits using Git plumbing https://github.com/ion1/git-plumbing-create-commit < 1375461508 474116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Roujo: "Because it was there" is the traditional why-climb-a-mountain answer. <-- the original guy _did_ die on mount everest hth < 1375461539 829861 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now it randomly started working again < 1375461541 946618 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT? < 1375461611 69228 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seeing mallory's corpse is p. weird < 1375461917 544778 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I have a vague feeling that "dig" is explicitly DNS-only, while "host" might follow the general name-resolution rules. < 1375461956 967329 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I mean, as a general comment on how they might differ; of course if you've only got DNS configured... < 1375462001 263410 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375462211 589509 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well crap =P < 1375462230 156795 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did anyone die programming in an esoteric language? < 1375462240 250817 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better yet, does going insane count? < 1375462262 592974 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are certainly dead esoteric language programmers. < 1375462291 832052 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The causal relationship is not entirely clear, because there are also dead people that were not esolangers. < 1375462346 189693 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think most dead people were esolangers < 1375462358 878879 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :At one point or another, anyway < 1375462379 768078 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a very vague and large definition of esolang < 1375462460 513254 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1375462611 759017 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Roujo Taneb < 1375462624 315700 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1375462645 688026 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I am, yeah < 1375462662 753000 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember that one time, at college? The mirror thing? < 1375462663 797511 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1375462682 916206 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jonathan, Nathan, it's all the same anyway < 1375462763 108614 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Co-Nathan. < 1375462806 855951 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly < 1375462812 145975 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like a co-processor < 1375462814 149505 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only Nathan < 1375462921 175050 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you'll find it's the dual of Nathan < 1375462943 171451 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/MyosinUnrootedTree.jpg help < 1375462952 625846 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a 80387 is a dual of 80386. < 1375463131 915908 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375463211 784701 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :80387 is also cop̈rime to 80386. < 1375463229 31385 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's logical. < 1375463260 465259 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, it really is, nice. < 1375463297 384570 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so it seems. I thought i was talking out of my ass. < 1375463299 942598 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :n+1 is usually coprime to n isn't it? < 1375463316 443049 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :n+1 is always coprime to n < 1375463322 255944 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1375463324 479967 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For n >= 2 < 1375463371 304908 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, 80387 is also just plain prime. < 1375463406 554124 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :For all n, I think < 1375463430 250226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I concur: 80387 is prime for all n. < 1375463450 706672 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods < 1375463480 987156 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :exists m. 80387 is a prime < 1375463501 465538 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: I have a vague feeling that "dig" is explicitly DNS-only, while "host" might follow the general name-resolution rules. < 1375463501 750335 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: I mean, as a general comment on how they might differ; of course if you've only got DNS configured... < 1375463503 399377 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1375463516 180324 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What other than dns and the host file is there? < 1375463526 92806 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nsswitch < 1375463533 239659 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: NIS. < 1375463545 471036 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what on earth is NIS? < 1375463545 710112 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The default “hosts” line on my system: hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4 < 1375463548 228470 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: LDAP-based host resolution too, I think. < 1375463549 743053 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seen that term before < 1375463554 144730 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And i’m not even using NIS/LDAP/something < 1375463558 920153 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Network Information Something. < 1375463597 799440 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also a NIS+, IIRC. < 1375463601 862862 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, mine just lists localhost for ipv4 and ipv6. Oh and the actual host name as well < 1375463618 650381 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :vorpal: Not /etc/hosts, the hosts line in nsswitch.conf < 1375463622 641647 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1375463638 245521 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hum < 1375463641 737050 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hosts: files dns < 1375463642 671460 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1375463665 763029 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :My desktop has this though: < 1375463667 704132 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4 < 1375463672 700137 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strange < 1375463681 283137 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multicast DNS, presumably. < 1375463685 360895 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mdns is a Good Thing™ especially on desktop computers. < 1375463743 660790 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, oh? what is it used for? < 1375463767 633347 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That’s how your computers see each other by .local without any special setup. < 1375463773 700682 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never used that < 1375463862 330773 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There’s a published RFC for it, and OSX and many Linux desktop systems use it by default. Also many peripherals such as HP printers. Microsoft of course doesn’t support it, but Apple provides an implementation for Windows. < 1375463873 589160 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1375463950 348856 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1375464362 976716 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: IMO you're just lazy if you don't have proper DNS for everything that could conceivably have an IP address. < 1375464407 175062 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, i’m lazy and proud of it. I don’t want to do extra work for something i can get for free. < 1375464420 282571 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Laaazyyy. < 1375464427 293047 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ < 1375464435 381492 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: imo ☝ < 1375464456 923137 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :My DNS server doesn’t really need to know or care about the hosts i happen to have in my internal network. < 1375464506 251373 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They can inform each other about their hostnames just fine. < 1375464575 246378 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just "install this extra blob into your Windows" "and what about this appliance with no firmware upgrades" fine. < 1375464610 184034 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also you're depriving your DNS server of its entire reason for existence hth < 1375465016 523292 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :&'static [&'static str] // what a beautiful type < 1375465038 296585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think Rust should use Unicode superscript characters for lifetimes < 1375465099 472080 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooooh, someone with voice =3 < 1375465100 760883 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, Not really useful for me I think < 1375465110 502512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: who needs q anyway < 1375465131 905115 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy < 1375465146 215483 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And qelliott. < 1375465155 976348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy doesn't need to be superscripted < 1375465390 458152 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. An ad for the PadfoneInfinity on the big screen. < 1375465401 210165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess those sponsors have their demands. < 1375465516 366353 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what is that? < 1375465538 656653 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's some Asus dockable phone thing. < 1375465542 474651 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1375465550 36590 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tablet, and a phone that slots in it. < 1375465555 814262 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or that's what it looked like anyway. < 1375465584 804901 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, should be three steps, with a so called "phablet" as a middle step < 1375465720 948301 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, for technical accuracy: Padfone Infinity is the phone, and you slot it into a Padfone Infinity Station, which is completely optional. < 1375465726 989466 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the cheesiest Asus laptop ad ever. < 1375465739 248230 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We sent you this device back in time so you can save the world." < 1375465777 591586 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What < 1375465789 764366 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>implying the phone is from the future < 1375465798 673425 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1375465799 526028 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: The laptop (another ad). < 1375465800 237760 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically < 1375465807 13285 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand that, it was just a "what" of disbelief < 1375465809 881749 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every phone that's not released yet is IN the future < 1375465821 628634 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was an ad for a released laptop. < 1375465821 873753 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So when it's actually released, it's probably FROM the future < 1375465848 551990 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, in that sense everything (that has not existed since the beginning of time) is from the future. < 1375465855 291797 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much < 1375465864 39895 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1375465868 935570 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then are we from the future? < 1375465874 484842 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, the Infinity Station has a 1080p 10.1" screen, while the phone side has a... 1080p screen too, except it's 5". < 1375465910 132594 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once asked someone to pronounce 1080 Ps < 1375465918 940698 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :He didn't get it, unfortunately < 1375465969 408051 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason it's always "ten-eighty" and not "one-thousand-eighty". < 1375465978 514308 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, okay, the "some reason" is quite clear.) < 1375466008 254938 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :In French it's not < 1375466025 911382 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is a bit of a shame, really < 1375466041 734289 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm rooting for 10.8 hundred p < 1375466093 724502 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :...French. Aren't you the guys with the four-times-twenty stuff? < 1375466112 50757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And/or some assorted irregularities. < 1375466117 836417 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1375466124 427700 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I did German in school, I've just heard of it.) < 1375466147 483942 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375466147 730976 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1375466147 731142 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375466161 400186 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1375466276 733542 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/08/01/future-https-wikimedia-projects/ < 1375466342 823986 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375466561 108574 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok? < 1375466640 866378 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1375466716 447487 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375466759 433823 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375466759 672925 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1375466759 673012 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375467025 343260 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375467150 264176 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, we have «quatre-vingts» for 80. perfectly logical. < 1375467249 484146 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375467249 757834 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1375467249 757994 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375467283 113324 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone said, to one person, God looks like a human; to another person, God looks like a flower; etc. What is your opinion about this? < 1375467304 854948 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that humans have more proteins than flowers. < 1375467341 741867 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, but I don't think that has anything to do with it. < 1375467455 556452 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: But it wasn't a 20-based system for 40 or something like that, right? < 1375467469 278410 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure? flowers are pretty protein-tastic < 1375467495 645436 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"IΔ0, arithmetic with induction on Δ0-predicates without any axiom asserting that exponentiation is total" hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm < 1375467520 593185 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you add such an axiom the proof-theoretic ordinal is a power higher, gosh! < 1375467537 450306 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I linked you that thing right. < 1375467555 914995 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um maybe < 1375467561 807297 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing thing. < 1375467566 643399 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out i'm "bad at reverse mathematics" < 1375467585 485022 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you mean "warning" then yes that's why I mentioned that arithmetic here. < 1375467609 956143 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how i got to this. i was looking at differential algebra a second ago < 1375467622 87388 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"MLM, an extension of Martin-Löf type theory by one Mahlo-universe, has an even larger proof theoretic ordinal ψΩ1(ΩM + ω)." imo this field is too greek < 1375467623 258135 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you need a hug Bike < 1375467630 898134 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1375467634 712843 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's vigesimal for 60, 70, 80, 90 in metropolitan and Québec French, but decimal for everything in Swiss and Belgian French. < 1375467637 431770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hug Bike < 1375467649 484016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: "Perfectly logical." < 1375467663 110847 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hugs Bike to distract him from the greek letters, but little does he know that I myself am a long-forgotten member of the greek alphabet < 1375467663 478356 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Most theories capable of describing the power set of the natural numbers have proof theoretic ordinals that are so large that no explicit combinatorial description has yet (as of 2008) been given." nice < 1375467669 37231 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit < 1375467675 790150 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :join us, Bike < 1375467689 380788 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already lost my sister digamma to you ;~; < 1375467721 193411 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A single muscle's multifunctional control potential of body dynamics for postural control and running" wow i bet this hardly has anything to do with ordinals at all < 1375467881 660778 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw an ad for the new Nokia Lumia phone with a 41 megapixel camera < 1375467892 622394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1375467892 843417 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1375467901 566045 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping oerjan < 1375467901 809337 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1375467907 165714 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@poke oerjan < 1375467907 405418 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: vote more < 1375467914 791982 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The reason that reverse mathematics is not carried out using set theory as a base system is that the language of set theory is too expressive." oh no < 1375467922 428615 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is just like....... why < 1375467949 525465 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought they'd given up on the "megapixel" thing by now < 1375467951 320684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody needs that many pixels < 1375467954 569602 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah me too < 1375467965 636022 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like we gave up on processors having OMG SO MANY GHZ < 1375467967 772182 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In order of increasing strength, these systems are named by the initialisms RCA0, WKL0, ACA0, ATR0, and Π11-CA0." also like, seriously < 1375467970 825771 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously. < 1375468000 310367 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375468004 616560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many of those are also drug names, kmc < 1375468017 908022 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is Π11-CA0 (or well Π^1_1-CA_0) a useful name. it sounds like something spraypainted on a concrete wall in an abandoned military complex < 1375468062 762620 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375468126 305430 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375468152 163679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you should go to Thessaloniki and admire the anti-fascist graffiti < 1375468171 711819 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1375468173 321340 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :<+kmc> nobody needs that many pixels < 1375468177 40771 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :They said that about memory < 1375468191 285324 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And usb ports < 1375468192 548798 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And hats < 1375468193 412376 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno if i want to go to greece right now, given the well, fascists. < 1375468197 737047 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yet here we are < 1375468278 634724 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the anti-fascist graffiti will protect you. that's what it's there for < 1375468287 346207 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise they wouldn't call it anti-fascist < 1375468287 618948 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375468301 667937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: erm the fascist regime fell in the 70's or thereabouts hth < 1375468322 840840 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you not heard of golden dawn < 1375468326 507066 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@vote more < 1375468326 736150 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: @vote < 1375468349 868091 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you not heard wondrous quotes like "Not being racist is in Greeks' DNA" < 1375468385 841956 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that statement... has its own internal beauty < 1375468387 611010 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that _is_ a wondrous quote. < 1375468437 182111 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do bicycles have dna < 1375468456 154999 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on the Bicycle, I'd guess < 1375468456 578959 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1375468460 983734 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what you did to it beforehand < 1375468481 852412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone knows dna cannot produce things with wheels, duh < 1375468490 378251 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless those things are flagella. < 1375468496 206658 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You can do things with the pixels, is I think the official line. I mean, by default (AIUI) it takes a full-resolution image (for non-information-destroying zoom and whatnot), and a five-megapixel picture (for sharing and actual use). < 1375468496 421478 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bikes are not flagella) < 1375468506 494184 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1375468516 400173 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: or pill bugs < 1375468521 656825 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's mostly a signifier that this is an expensive camera and has good optics etc < 1375468543 714936 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that reminds me. ~biology meme~ http://imgur.com/T8cXoyN < 1375468630 97742 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: wait, what is the difference between an image and a picture. < 1375468630 471458 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ongoing seminar on the right: history of web-browser demos. < 1375468636 182788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cutest protein i've seen yet < 1375468644 700958 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375468662 420297 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't think I wanted to make any difference there. < 1375468668 340911 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. okay. < 1375468805 869916 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1375468806 120140 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, i love that thing < 1375468817 631808 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know very little about it but i love it < 1375468856 135833 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so utterly ridiculous < 1375468858 416162 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375468860 590258 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what's going on and I love it =P < 1375468879 826143 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy mother of hosts < 1375468890 701474 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aiui it's a cellular transportation mechanism which consists of tying a bag of stuff to a set of little cell-sized legs < 1375468904 856914 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck aiui < 1375468905 346067 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1375468906 584863 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, organelle-sized < 1375468929 956606 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck aui < 1375468930 194061 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1375468947 784379 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i understand it < 1375469645 69075 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1375469739 28988 :neena!~neena@codesurfers.net QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1375470037 765151 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any deterministic program that it has been proven that you can't prove that it halts or doesn't halt? (also well specified enough that it can be written down) < 1375470063 677506 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :With no input? < 1375470187 132893 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's deterministic, you can deduce any subsequent state, starting from the first one, and progressing until the end. < 1375470193 276794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: if a program halts, you can prove it. thus any prove that you _cannot_ prove it halts is a proof that it doesn't halt. < 1375470199 884573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*proof < 1375470278 40915 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*progress < 1375470321 16918 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: kinesin < 1375470349 661133 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're right < 1375470364 157860 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it halts if and only if there is a proof that it halts (even if nobody knows what this proof is, because it is too long or whatever), and I have made up a sequent calculus of Turing machine, which might be relevant but I don't know for sure. < 1375470386 258004 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: does that hold with all the subtleties of nonstandard models and independent statements and stuff? < 1375470401 57482 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: as in, if you prove there cannot be a proof that a program halts in ZFC, I don't immediately see that there must be a proof it doesn't halt in ZFC < 1375470436 163628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh mixing metalevels < 1375470448 871315 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"shouldn't you be using hott........" < 1375470478 274986 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can prove that a program halts by running it. So you prove that doesn't work, it doesn't halt < 1375470481 941123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a program halts in the "intended model" of the natural numbers, then it can be proved to halt in any reasonable logic. < 1375470482 380911 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1375470502 360216 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think nonstandard models describe Turing machines. < 1375470503 450346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course "the intended model" is the one without any nonstandard elements. < 1375470537 511757 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well I think meta-levels inherently get tangled when the question is being unable to prove things :P < 1375470572 946717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: however, zzo38's "it halts if and only if there is a proof that it halts" does have the problem you are thinking of, i think < 1375470656 975817 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't think my arguments requires anything more than having the right intended model and a logic which is true for it. < 1375470671 332680 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1375470838 379419 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1375470839 76133 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 021900Z 25017KT 30SM SCT040 BKN240 24/15 A2976 RMK CU4CI3 SLP076 DENSITY ALT 1400FT < 1375470849 880149 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i don't think i get it intuitively either < 1375470861 218671 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like sure there's no halting recognizer but you can still show a program doesn't halt, what's the deal < 1375470915 263719 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, actually, I thought of something, maybe in the Turing machine sequent calculus, maybe you can have a nonstandard set of propositions next to the turnstile... < 1375470923 951496 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's quite easy to imagine showing for(;;); doesn't halt, surely < 1375470930 266804 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, obviously < 1375470934 151201 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then it isn't a standard Turing machine. < 1375470985 137944 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like, so any plan you come up with to show an arbitrary program+input halts has to not work for some subset of programs+inputs? < 1375470985 866301 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375471018 873486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and moreover you can construct the counterexample easily from the plan < 1375471022 215264 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's super basic but i don't get it. < 1375471022 441153 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1375471033 124239 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, you just incorporate the recognizer < 1375471042 328967 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this system, a Turing machine that halts is a theorem. If it is deterministic (so there is no way you have any choice what rule to follow or substitutions in the rule), and then you get to a same state as before, then you can know it isn't halting, although you see that from outside of the system, and not all non-halting Turing machines will be like this anyways. < 1375471204 200667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: basically, any consistent logic for deciding whether a turing machine halts and which is strong enough to contain explicit simulation, will only fail on non-halting machines. < 1375471215 448220 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :*.net *.split < 1375471215 881455 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kplvglgyzjeqihoy QUIT :*.net *.split < 1375471216 100136 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :*.net *.split < 1375471216 439984 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :*.net *.split < 1375471225 816701 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\x. x x x) (\y. y y y) is one example of a program that doesn't halt but never repeats states < 1375471251 595364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (::^):^ < 1375471251 943297 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...too much stack! < 1375471285 901554 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (aS)aS < 1375471286 128698 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aS) < 1375471309 211043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the example i used in my underload minimization section to show :()^ couldn't be trivially decided. < 1375471320 687285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course in the end it ended up being fully TC) < 1375471354 603266 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (:aSS):aSS < 1375471354 824052 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(:aSS):aSS < 1375471361 440720 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, ass. < 1375471374 777099 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot seems to like that one < 1375471374 989668 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: et tu!!! < 1375471383 88190 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Bike hasn't seen underload before? < 1375471408 794936 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have. < 1375471417 255965 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but: ass < 1375471418 22746 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he hass. < 1375471421 739505 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :butt ass < 1375471455 88232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1375471480 510282 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«This name is used because RCA0 corresponds informally to "computable mathematics". In particular, any set of natural numbers that can be proven to exist in RCA0 is computable, and thus any theorem which implies that noncomputable sets exist is not provable in RCA0[...] The classical theorems provable in RCA0 include: The intermediate value theorem on continuous real functions» v. nice < 1375471522 924687 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375471555 860224 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not «If G is a connected graph with infinitely many vertices such that every vertex has finite degree (that is, each vertex is adjacent to only finitely many other vertices) then G contains an infinitely long simple path, that is, a path with no repeated vertices» so fuck. < 1375471775 341481 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah, yes I suppose you are correct about that logic but even if it is not consistent, then everything is true even false things are true, so "consistent" isn't needed there. But, if it doesn't have explicit simulation then I think it isn't a Turing machine, isn't it? < 1375471944 302924 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should do something else. figure out the complexity class of a nematode. < 1375472076 652166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1375472078 761590 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any edible nematodes? < 1375472090 939309 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1375472098 503073 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1375472109 470735 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that much food has nematodes in it, if nothing else :3 < 1375472192 108201 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess they're pretty small, it'd be like edible alga < 1375472271 175006 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«purée de nématode sur craquelins de froment.» maybe there's some money to make out of that. < 1375472273 923505 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375472296 162629 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people will eat anything if it's labelled as haute cuisine. < 1375472299 924646 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything sounds delicious in french < 1375472317 961993 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2019612,00.html < 1375472443 285366 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric < 1375472480 754002 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :snail eggs: http://www.france-caviar.com/perles-de-france--caviar-d-escargot < 1375472482 622279 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what. < 1375472498 213069 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this my lambdabot... < 1375472502 634014 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1375472503 464039 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :netsplit < 1375472510 500589 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S ALIVE < 1375472522 69304 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot is on ipv6! < 1375472530 639925 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :son of lambda < 1375472550 696662 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: this is pretty good < 1375472560 204583 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you tasted them? < 1375472561 643317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Edible_algae < 1375472567 863451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I laser cut some seaweed once < 1375472572 473302 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bite me kmc ;_; < 1375472579 854950 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :algæs are good. < 1375472584 400685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1375472587 244743 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i got the plural wrong sorry < 1375472602 595117 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :requesting pics of kmc biting Bike if and when such an event occurs < 1375472604 984219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I didn't notice / care < 1375472609 61895 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: :3 < 1375472674 395633 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Do you know if Teksavvy provides IPv6? < 1375472681 96389 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, supports? < 1375472697 198224 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeh... no idea. < 1375472709 873722 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright =P < 1375472719 846008 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like so: http://teksavvy.com/ipv6 < 1375472726 792524 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOOT < 1375472736 280748 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought they would < 1375472744 361398 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since they're, you know, pretty tech-savvy < 1375472751 376693 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :They host one of Coldfront's IRC servers < 1375472752 431573 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin tiens. < 1375472789 394933 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm with electronic box at home. I don't know who we are wired with at work, but it's all ipv6. < 1375472791 504850 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>we welcome you to join us in our IPv6 on DSL Beta program. < 1375472795 309964 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>our IPv6 on DSL Beta program. < 1375472798 41613 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>DSL < 1375472800 270687 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well crap < 1375473534 760685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, Rust floats have a .approx_eq() method which is hardcoded to an epsilon of 1e-6 < 1375473575 27301 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew, imo < 1375473606 84093 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fuck it" < 1375473633 605249 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375473668 105022 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds better than everyone just using == < 1375473676 896554 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was explaining floats to somebody yesterday < 1375473696 454760 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah if your application is sensitive to the exact epsilon, don't use .approx_eq() imo < 1375473700 954816 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they had somehow gotten the impression that .48799912 (the number, not the float) was "illogical" because if you had the same digit twice in a row it had to go on forever < 1375473710 832616 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like... 1e-6 matches pretty well what most people would expect of "approx" < 1375473715 479425 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: o_O < 1375473718 680345 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: are you sure you were *just* explaining floats here < 1375473726 695785 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like you were also explaining the rationals :P < 1375473728 946567 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :floats and/or maths < 1375473735 944475 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i started by explaining math < 1375473741 811189 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was an odd experience because like, what < 1375473756 252597 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :product of american public school system? < 1375473759 651440 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :similarly 11 should go on forever, as in the p-adic ...111111 < 1375473769 866828 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :from what i could tell they were extremely confused by how they learned long division in school, yeah < 1375473783 955552 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure i got them past that though, and on to "what the fuck are floats" < 1375473791 405636 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how to do long division < 1375473794 641345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :floats are the worst is what they are < 1375473795 906348 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I missing out? < 1375473799 554929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this person a programmer? < 1375473804 240469 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1375473808 800021 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I didn't understand long division until I learned how to do it with polynomials < 1375473813 488381 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same. < 1375473819 366435 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? haha awesome < 1375473822 357528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now I've forgotten that too, of course < 1375473844 176447 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's because taocp is very vehement about it, and polynomials and positional numbers being basically the same < 1375473853 305365 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also forget how to do short division and also every other mental arithmetic thing ever < 1375473861 238775 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you're a taocp person < 1375473865 128971 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankfully I have invested in a computer to perform these tasks on my behalf < 1375473885 978699 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a taocp person. am i bad :( < 1375473969 204450 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: The Art of Computer Programming. < 1375473996 629798 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not bad < 1375474077 878622 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there anybody on #esoteric who's bad? < 1375474139 506580 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me, apparently < 1375474160 695654 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :taocp is just interesting even if knuth's idea of computer programming is often super alien to anything i have ever done with a computer < 1375474218 287192 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Roujo < 1375474220 508014 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1375474220 878239 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1375474221 155623 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          º¯`\o < 1375474226 627286 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because Java =P < 1375474279 237926 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Roujo is a Java heretic. He also claims to be Canadian. As per the Hexham treaty, he mustn't meet boily lest the Universe be destroyed. < 1375474282 418318 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1375474310 377756 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus there's cool stuff like the in-depth analysis of the running time of euclid's algorithm < 1375474313 435256 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "pretty weird" < 1375474317 205842 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but nothing is said about me not meeting him. mwah ah ah.) < 1375474330 985816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the Hexham treaty only apply to Commonwealth countries? < 1375474350 489337 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. do we have a member living in Asia or Africa? < 1375474372 314743 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1375474376 556026 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck Hexham treaty < 1375474376 967133 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1375474379 613188 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well crap < 1375474385 905580 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought we had at least one south african < 1375474387 103162 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375474409 256978 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus lives in .au or .nz or something < 1375474428 372333 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato is south african < 1375474439 623565 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir is korean < 1375474457 675617 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx stalker < 1375474478 250303 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for two new entries :D < 1375474484 466029 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Euclidean_algorithm_running_time_X_Y.png #blaze it < 1375474490 184638 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this for the esoteric center of mas thing? < 1375474491 137239 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mass < 1375474520 85739 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yup! < 1375474521 797037 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe itidus was Victorian? < 1375474537 86156 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the center of mass is about a foot to my left, because i am made of depleted uranium < 1375474537 287074 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1375474539 791469 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that's why < 1375474540 866748 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION adopts a very Mr. Burns-ish pose < 1375474544 537521 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent... < 1375474547 795786 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mass and coordinates thing < 1375474548 702160 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rofl < 1375474556 737245 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the center of mass currently? < 1375474582 375129 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough points we UNDESTANDABLE COÖRDINATES, YOU UNCOÖPERATIVE MNOKEYS! < 1375474589 666488 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/we/for/ < 1375474591 707675 :Guest29797!~sacre@50-81-222-220.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375474594 197050 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/for/with/ < 1375474600 636316 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damned small words. < 1375474612 852270 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so that's why boily was asking for my loaction and weight. i never guessed it was for a centroid calculation < 1375474616 959692 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't it be "ekomnsy" < 1375474638 30612 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or uh < 1375474639 608524 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonetheless, it is a useless exercise at the moment, as I have been moving north slowly for 4.5 months, so the centroid would be rather erratic < 1375474639 811419 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ekmnosy < 1375474654 542761 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1375474683 457300 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: so yeah. can I please get your (probably very approximate) loäction and body weigh? < 1375474706 587011 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's with the trémas? =P < 1375474711 210218 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also my weight has dropped around 40lbs. in the last 4.5 months < 1375474712 47238 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tradition. < 1375474723 336411 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got it =P < 1375474742 422860 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow way to fuck everything up quintopia < 1375474746 116738 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now i am loacted in newton, ma, and that is a very temporary condition < 1375474747 31991 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You should probably just ship biometric chips to all of us < 1375474759 606541 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: are you describing an homotetic transformation in space-time? < 1375474779 636667 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am describing this computer dying and me not knowing the location of the power cable < 1375474783 196268 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: ooooooh! a very elliotty idea! < 1375474798 478061 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: thanks! < 1375474799 586952 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great =) < 1375474801 842440 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's a pretty graph < 1375474806 267728 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to take the bus! < 1375474809 226678 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :STM4EVER < 1375474816 176039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's STM here < 1375474826 945970 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Société de Transport de Montréal < 1375474842 320201 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find that most things having to do with primes are either pretty or infuriating or boring or two of the above < 1375474853 747096 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs to update his coördinates < 1375474867 296928 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can a biometric chip know your weight? < 1375474868 5262 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc where are you loacted? < 1375474876 138155 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: buses and metro. or not. sometimes they exist, sometimes they arrive late, sometimes they crash, sometimes they don't work... it's an adventure! < 1375474880 387933 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This result suffices to show that the number of steps in Euclid's algorithm can never be more than five times the number of its digits (base 10)" just, everything goes crazy < 1375474910 257976 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess that's just log actually < 1375474910 459635 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well bye < 1375474913 599650 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1375475039 450019 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover NICK :FreeFull < 1375475065 77543 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! another victim^Wexemplary member of our fine community! < 1375475102 657356 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To make this book less expensive, I did all of the typesetting myself, and I refused royalties." < 1375475115 539840 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: sorry if I ever asked you the The Question before, but it is of utmost importance that you answer it, or we may have to implant cybernetics into your body in a forceful manner. what are your approximate coördinates and body weigh? < 1375475192 126790 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now I'm at 37.78947,-122.38912 but I sleep at about 37.75009,-122.40922 < 1375475223 657203 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ALTITUDE MISSING < 1375475242 168922 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.math.psu.edu/simpson/sosoa/promo.html i like how dorky this is < 1375475247 65780 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: no need for that. I'm not planning for ICBMs yet. < 1375475253 46817 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :promotional material: mentioning it on a mailing list < 1375475259 48226 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: in my experience you sleep at ~midnight-1am or so < 1375475261 977650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that works too < 1375475273 968436 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually i have no idea when you sleep) < 1375475347 698677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: My phone says -80 feet MSL which seems... wrong < 1375475359 258771 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 0,4,1,5,182 and 482 megaluns < 1375475365 937325 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because a) I can see the bay from here, and b) I am not currently underwater < 1375475394 13510 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can make a game about "Merciful to gibbering mouther and the other monsters" (or another theme, at your option) and it will run in the Z-machine VM (other than version 6), and can complete at least a playable preview (if not the whole game) by the end of September, then please try to enter Z-Comp. < 1375475394 213447 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure that the tide isn't really far out < 1375475405 978828 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1375475406 179674 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1375475437 507706 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey shachaf didn't you have a pdf of "Mathematics Made Difficult" < 1375475441 839092 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a megalun? < 1375475456 957239 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just read "ludicrously over-complicated proofs of the infinitude of primes (e.g., putting a topology on the naturals, etc.)" and am staring at it < 1375475476 476186 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Perhaps you're just so underground, conceptually. < 1375475480 184686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1375475490 394876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: my actual elevation is maybe 140 ft MSL < 1375475501 937577 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming I know what various terms mean, which I might not < 1375475540 517941 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on the Wikipedia acronym page, that seems to mean 140 feet from the Mars Science Laboratory. < 1375475551 369165 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mean sea level, i'm assuming < 1375475567 257329 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly median sea level??? < 1375475573 238441 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mean sea level. ON MARS! < 1375475588 120125 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think someone being on mars might skew the centroid a little bit < 1375475591 118088 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah. what's a megalun? < 1375475606 423911 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the mars science laboratory on mars < 1375475611 927387 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel it might be deceptively named < 1375475616 798212 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: that's why it is of vital importance that I collect all these stats. < 1375475635 145358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It's the name for the mission Curiosity is doing. < 1375475635 384429 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's probably safe to assume everyone is on earth? < 1375475642 438295 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, nice. < 1375475644 636196 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I guess you could argue it doesn't have a well-defined location. < 1375475659 536475 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess space drones are pretty laboritorical < 1375475702 821560 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what is a megalun? < 1375475703 21575 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: as well as development. i had a collision there are < 1375475727 848711 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/1stbday/ wow nasa's sight is good < 1375475730 194656 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I think it's what you get when you have a million SCSI devices in a chain. < 1375475733 387745 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :site. look at that background < 1375475742 40425 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They all need a unique LUN (logical unit number).) < 1375475743 316515 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Fiora: hate to burst your bubble but I'm actually in Hexham, Alpha Centauri < 1375475751 442075 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit. < 1375475759 855025 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but but < 1375475763 562692 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how am I talking with you!! < 1375475782 918148 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, light is actually way faster than you think it is. < 1375475784 276064 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott just predicts your messages a few hours in advance < 1375475787 458620 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we just slow it down for humans because they're not yet ready. < 1375475790 70991 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or however long the distance is < 1375475792 948635 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that. < 1375475806 88402 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also like that Doctor Who episode. < 1375475812 418495 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that one. < 1375475845 58371 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we thinking of the same one here < 1375475849 248297 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(valid answers: "yes", "no") < 1375475850 508305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slow it down for humans because they are not ready? That doesn't make a lot of sense... (unless you mean something slightly different instead) < 1375475857 760033 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never seen a doctor who episode. < 1375475895 528777 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn megalun is a chain of a million SCSI devices. FreeFull weighs 482 of them. < 1375475899 448793 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1375475914 659228 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google A Slower Speed of Light < 1375475915 885076 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gamelab.mit.edu/games/a-slower-speed-of-light/ < 1375475916 84928 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: A Slower Speed of Light | MIT Game Lab < 1375476010 45838 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequote < 1375476011 379721 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pastequote: not found < 1375476013 429946 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes < 1375476018 199362 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.21998 < 1375476040 759781 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still trying to figure out how you could measure someone's weight with a bio implant < 1375476060 239461 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it correlates with levels of whatever chemicals in the blood < 1375476107 598780 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's probably the one doctor who episode people who have never seen a doctor who episode are likely to see! < 1375476118 369140 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1375476119 498842 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blink? < 1375476128 179284 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get 5 points < 1375476131 449895 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: just make the implant weigh, like, a billion kilograms. < 1375476142 609094 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you can measure the person's weight as a billion kilograms to very high precision. < 1375476147 310591 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good solution < 1375476149 129171 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :neutronium? XD < 1375476152 740517 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: what if you put the implant underneath the foot, and use it as a regular piezoelectric? < 1375476178 888895 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that... I guess that could work, wow < 1375476200 940095 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the force would vary though. < 1375476237 498219 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example i'd become a good deal "heavier" when doing jumping jacks, as bikes do to stay fit < 1375476439 469859 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike. you don't even have a foot. < 1375476471 820450 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i not bleed? can i not jack?? < 1375476485 371264 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best way to weight someone is to put them deep into intergalactic space < 1375476488 989626 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then they don't have any weight < 1375476581 870578 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes < 1375476588 50116 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1375476618 630066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_claimed_to_be_built_on_seven_hills < 1375476627 140475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: where/what? < 1375476634 704221 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1375476662 950922 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :prime numbers? < 1375476724 718904 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1375476772 682075 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike is a prime number with no foot, who jacks piezoelectrics made of neutronium? I fear I'm having a serious case of sanity slippage... < 1375476991 409509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://man.he.net/man3/xdr huh < 1375477023 721060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if anyone uses this other than Sun RPC < 1375477068 999314 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I interpreted Bike's "can i not jack??" very differently < 1375477070 977938 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes more sense < 1375477092 608932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: NetCDF. < 1375477112 536676 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Also I think NFS somewhere, and libvirt. < 1375477557 325564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh libvert really? < 1375477559 32010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you too < 1375477575 462836 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :libvirt ate my balls < 1375477583 253702 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc/Bike looking stronger by the minute < 1375477592 652598 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which I mean, libvirt and virt-manager keep getting into arguments that result in one of them crashing < 1375477594 113446 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recently ran into its use of XDR on somewhere, maybe a stray comment on ##c. < 1375477597 213351 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :libelliott < 1375477652 783100 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc -lliott < 1375477732 523702 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember to compile your code with -Wno-elliott or gcc will be all "you should've used Haskell for this". < 1375477772 692678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that warning even included in gcc -Larry -Wall < 1375477911 726178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym @ < 1375478023 604922 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pdylasqhgkjcusds JOIN :#esoteric < 1375478038 993348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's this tune? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvq1mdEtjAA < 1375478049 146373 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it exist outside of Discworld 2? < 1375478077 253973 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it exist? < 1375478114 114966 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375478121 882950 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you exist? < 1375478131 3862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo yes, you're me < 1375478137 183411 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anything exist? < 1375478214 363692 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematics exists. < 1375478302 986427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 exists. < 1375478375 453973 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375478388 644277 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure? < 1375478415 166523 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure. < 1375478420 844027 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But am I sure I'm sure? < 1375478422 73901 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(No.) < 1375478445 522610 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can i be sure if i don’t exist? < 1375478480 755672 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I see what you did there. < 1375478496 729969 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematics “∃”. < 1375478553 854928 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you TIRED of dealing with half-assed Unicode support? *black and white video of someone comically fumbling a basket of compatibility characters encoded as CESU-8* < 1375478589 564290 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if zzo38 did not exist it would be necessary to invent him < 1375478590 245464 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375478599 925326 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. Many things don't need full Unicode support (and some don't need any Unicode support). < 1375478656 358983 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I exist! < 1375478665 345741 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: No, I didn't do that there. That is what *you* did there. < 1375478756 478105 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1,16,3072 < 1375478757 175573 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : A sequence related to the period T of a simple gravity pendulum for arbitrar... < 1375478808 586374 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.153.222 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375479002 995543 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A program to convert UTF-8 to UTF-16 may support both CESU-8 and normal UTF-8, for example. Overlong encodings might also be supported. In other applications, there will be other limitations. < 1375479052 109192 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some programs you may even have codes that are outside of the range of Unicode; UTF-8 supports up to 36-bits at least. < 1375479139 176954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact CESU-8 or things like it tend to do overlong encoding of U+0000 < 1375479151 867552 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does CESU-8 exist, btw? (Seriously, not an existence joke. :-P) < 1375479158 728972 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oeis.org/A223068/list i don't like these numbers < 1375479164 167961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I blame Oracle < 1375479175 308020 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since Java and MySQL both do the wrong thing < 1375479182 308844 :Guest29797!~sacre@50-81-222-220.client.mchsi.com QUIT :Changing host < 1375479182 513449 :Guest29797!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375479185 788348 :Guest29797!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet NICK :sacje < 1375479190 438172 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, if you are using a zero-byte as a terminator, then using overlong encoding for that works. VGMCK also uses overlong encoding for trailing spaces (U+0020) too. < 1375479202 476564 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did they choose such a representation, i wonder? < 1375479227 157457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because long ago, Unicode was supposed to be a 16-bit character set < 1375479234 277085 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I suppose that any program converting UTF-8 to UTF-16 will naturally support CESU-8. < 1375479248 766857 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it ought to support the normal UTF-8 too. < 1375479257 856895 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or UCS was, anyway) < 1375479259 730254 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so systems like Java, MySQL, and JavaScript ( :( :( :( ) were built around this assumption < 1375479286 443695 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-16 is a hack to retrofit full Unicode 20.1 bit characters onto UCS-2 < 1375479311 26451 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about we just communicate with scrolls copied by monks < 1375479316 135767 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Let’s leak the internal representation of text to the programmer, i’m sure everything will be fine.” < 1375479325 514341 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : ⎛ < 1375479326 635921 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::⎜ < 1375479327 756777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : ⎝ < 1375479366 5926 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: fine as long as I get some more multiocular O's out of this bargain < 1375479380 807817 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-8 allows much longer numbers, although they cannot be used with Unicode. (One possible use is if you are making a Glk input recording in UTF-8 format, then you can encode the Glk special key codes, which are 32-bits long.) < 1375479387 846122 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1375479412 826912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember my limerick < 1375479423 616293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo we should require at least one multiocular o in all rhymes composed in this channel < 1375479446 756419 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::────────────┐ < 1375479448 206292 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : :─────┤ < 1375479450 196104 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : └───────( < 1375479458 896277 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there is two kinds of multiocular O isn't it? < 1375479469 267526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the other kind? < 1375479485 553746 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't there, one kind with seven eyes and one kind with ten eyes, or something like that? < 1375479502 160712 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There’s one with “multi” < 1375479502 964597 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that was an amazing limerick < 1375479505 176123 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, those are different glyphs for the same letter. < 1375479522 146309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I have only seen one multiocular O that predates Unicode, and it had 10 eyes < 1375479530 36838 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the Unicode reference glyph has 7 < 1375479543 466411 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Unicode doesn't tell the difference, so if you want to write about seraphims with many eyes by using this alphabet, then you cannot know if you mean they have seven eyes or ten, if you are using Unicode.) < 1375479558 347215 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :major design flaw < 1375479567 857685 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait i already joked re: this < 1375479568 469570 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I ever find myself in Sergiyev Posad, I will attempt to ask some monks in very broken Russian if they will show me some other multiocular Os < 1375479586 937105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I could just like look through the online manuscript scans but that's boooooooringc < 1375479595 276690 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is Sergiyev Posad and why would you find yourself in him? < 1375479602 877347 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were the manuscripts even about < 1375479616 307187 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: Os mainly. < 1375479633 677011 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: jesus < 1375479642 260103 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.153.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375479649 336733 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :new testament? < 1375479660 580730 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :psalms < 1375479672 48441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only somebody had researched this and put it on the wikipedia article about 2 years ago < 1375479675 448107 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For a generally accessible and less technical introduction to the topic, see Introduction to pendulum (mathematics)." oh boy < 1375479678 447355 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: >_> < 1375479692 877560 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so not jesus < 1375479715 403140 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus only appears in the sequel < 1375479772 748566 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sequel to what? Psalms? < 1375479774 151026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo is the sequel even canon < 1375479839 310602 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1375479909 37620 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a lot of jesus fan fiction < 1375479915 930105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of it is in the quran < 1375479944 407220 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he makes clay pigeons fly < 1375479955 488604 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a young kid < 1375479964 106059 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did the book of mormon have jesus fanfic? < 1375479976 17447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :think so < 1375479976 297173 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that reminds me to be angry at fox for their latest bigotness < 1375479978 708086 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is possible some of it is somewhat based on true stories. < 1375479981 771384 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: it's the premise < 1375480013 248194 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: the book of mormon is a solution to the problem of "wait, if jesus only appeared to some eurasians and you can't go to heaven w/o jesusism, americans were fucking boned" < 1375480044 27694 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether "native americans are actually jewish" is a good solution is up for debate. < 1375480073 497855 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they were Jewish, nor is that a solution. < 1375480082 328194 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow ok nobody told me the book of mormon was that exciting < 1375480094 157897 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did some white people in America in the 19th century care whether long dead native americans were in hell or not < 1375480100 807628 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really dully written i assure you < 1375480101 743685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems uncharacteristic < 1375480120 987656 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: white people have a long and rich history of caring deeply for the feelings of native americans [laugh track] < 1375480135 106833 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why i don't litter anymore < 1375480138 248520 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: because it would be god sending people to hell for arbitrary reasons they couldn't deal with themselves, unlike being gay etc. which isn't arbitrary < 1375480177 497563 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obviously) < 1375480200 687457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about all the people who lived before jesus < 1375480215 189281 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375480222 967444 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really like the name "Book of Mormon" since "Mormon" is also the name of one of the books it includes. < 1375480234 439454 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1375480235 592129 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weren't there like endless apologetics about the subject of what happened to aristotle and other famous philosophers that the christians revered at the time? < 1375480237 738197 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, see, Jesus changed the rules of being saved. Before Jesus the rules were different. < 1375480240 237633 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375480268 968467 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's really his fault < 1375480306 359063 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you're in the properly ridiculous frame of mind you need to be in to do theology. < 1375480328 955414 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if JavaScript is Scheme with C syntax then Rust is Linear ML with C++ syntax (n.b. none of these things is true) < 1375480346 698748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's similar to math right? < 1375480358 449218 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, kinda. < 1375480367 519605 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Everything Jesus does is good" is axiomatic, that kinda thing < 1375480381 248805 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about yelling at a tree for no reason < 1375480387 101785 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a "properly ridiculous frame of mind" you need to be in to do theology? < 1375480424 216731 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: see https://twitter.com/Non_Cunningham < 1375480534 719014 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah there's that and the whole business with zipporah and who fuckin knows < 1375480582 228357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know this story < 1375480591 749618 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zipporah and the inn < 1375480597 139301 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty incomprehensible i recommend it < 1375480646 581499 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and as long as i'm mentioning mormons i want to remind anybody who cares that they didn't allow black priests until 1978. just good to keep in mind < 1375480661 629805 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting, I can watch 1080p video from my RPi over NFS, but it doesn't keep up streaming over smbfs. < 1375480687 132256 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess putting the server in the kernel helps quite a bit < 1375480762 638891 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that does not really surprise me < 1375480765 220869 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, at all. < 1375480769 500762 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it meant to < 1375480804 279004 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't really draw that conclusion < 1375480826 650511 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it was meant to... thing. < 1375480839 21589 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er that was to Vorpal < 1375480879 835421 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, could be other overheads too yes < 1375480908 689273 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I watch 1080p video over HTTP and sshfs sometimes < 1375480916 530532 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, from an RPi? < 1375480918 970227 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1375480927 600014 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that is the point, low end system < 1375480930 819531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1375480946 229867 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I have no doubt it would work fine if the server wasn't a RPi < 1375481009 149940 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, watching data rates when copying files over either protocol indicates that there is only a small difference when copying to the RPi, but a massive difference when reading from it < 1375481421 595040 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: at some other Assembly you should organize an #esoteric assembly < 1375481429 950744 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey what's the deal with double factorials < 1375481455 956551 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that and/or people should just make independent arrangements to be there < 1375481456 989548 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: You think anyone'd come? < 1375481479 309728 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be there if I ever managed to write or participate in writing a demo < 1375481547 806857 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not really any sort of requirement. I never manage to get anything done either. (Granted, the place is like six or eight kilometres from here.) < 1375481605 73702 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you do at a demo party if you're not involved in a demo? < 1375481650 142150 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'd come as long as it isn't noisy or big, so in other words I wouldn't < 1375481657 702137 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spectate/vote at the compos, meet people, that sort of thing. < 1375481678 571029 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you get involved in Z-Comp? < 1375481691 974399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's actually been a *lot* less noisy this last decade, after they implemented decibel limits. (It's still noisy.) < 1375481709 901792 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my decibel limit is, like, three. < 1375481713 851618 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not actually three) < 1375481803 53597 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hides with elliott in the quiet not-full-of-people place  < 1375481812 695799 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was the "oldskool" (platforms like C64, A500 and so on) event tonight, and as usual, there were really few "proper" entries. < 1375481817 649267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One slideshow-only ad for a new Finnish demoscene-culture-and-computer-stuff magazine, one invtro for a party with a silly name I forgot, one (ZX Spectrum) invtro for Sundown and one kind of minimal entry. < 1375481826 930527 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And then Dekadence had done a reasonable A500 demo, which was the one proper one.) < 1375481842 901301 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah hah < 1375481845 61274 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ads all over < 1375481854 10906 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sucks you can't vote for just one entry < 1375481861 361455 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must choose a 2nd and a 3rd one... < 1375481901 271695 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Invtros are a valid thing to do, though. (Still, they tend to be not all that impressive.) < 1375481902 91627 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION considers forcing fiora and elliott to come to event, bringing tarp to cover them with when they get overstimulated < 1375481920 181905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any for Famicom? < 1375481962 641913 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have like spacetime tarps < 1375481967 808277 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, tarps that isolate you from the rest of the spacetime around you < 1375481991 301595 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what regular tarps do. < 1375481997 141378 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they don't block the sound < 1375482002 231931 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :no they only isolate you from space < 1375482003 821852 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could pad it! < 1375482011 832560 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they, like, they still allow timelike paths to cross them >_< < 1375482016 732198 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yorick: i'd like to see anyone time travel through one of my tarps < 1375482023 222957 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo impossible. < 1375482047 551922 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I'll just time travel with a rate of 1 second per second and walk through your tarp < 1375482056 151837 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie you gotta come outwide < 1375482058 212070 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure this is just Bike's ploy to ask me if I want to ride him when I ask about travel plans < 1375482067 82193 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :To the oficial assembly meet < 1375482076 872222 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's just trying to kidnap us >_< < 1375482100 152054 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike kind of sounds like the least scary person you could possibly be kidnapped by, so I'm cool with that < 1375482100 360186 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Not this year; they removed the "bring your own hardware" option, so the platforms are rather limited because it's only what they have available. (C64, Plus/4, A500, Atari ST, 130xe, MSX1, Speccy and Amstrad CPC6128.) < 1375482113 522585 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i was kidnapping you i'd use a burlap sack, not a tarp! what were you raised in a kidnappingless barn < 1375482122 881980 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's probably true < 1375482130 51200 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, okay, elliott is probably even less scary < 1375482162 752279 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Ah, OK. If they had "bring your own hardware" option, what computers did some people use? < 1375482184 411929 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure i'm at least two petaelliotts on the fear scale. < 1375482188 982505 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless "scarily cute" counts :p < 1375482195 458994 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Perhaps there'll be some in the "real wild" category where you can submit a video of basically anything that can be programmed in some sense. < 1375482225 921981 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will you submit the program too? < 1375482232 639835 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The VIC-20 has been popular outside that list, at least. And some old consoles, like NES and original Game Boy. < 1375482246 705328 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: No, I haven't done anything. < 1375482257 709768 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought wild compos were commonplace, where you pretty much just provide anything with a suitable video/audio output and can submit it as an entry < 1375482262 946156 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, instead of or in addition to the video. < 1375482263 642682 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Oh, there was one NES song in the music competition. < 1375482281 324950 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: btw i don't know if you recall the "route of elliott", from hexham to dili, but i'd like to point out you could take most of it by bicycle. < 1375482281 801725 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, but they removed it this year? < 1375482289 946824 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Oh. Yes, preferrably, though I don't think it's required. < 1375482312 472798 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: was that the stupid roundabout fucklong one < 1375482316 532144 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just the fucklong one that wasn't that roundabout < 1375482326 192243 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean roundabout < 1375482330 461431 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Wild's still there. They just had a bring-your-own-device option in the "Oldskool demo" category. < 1375482330 661284 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the roundabout one involved taking ferries to europe just to get from one point of the UK to another. < 1375482337 372794 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a beautiful triumph of Google's pathfinding algorithms < 1375482347 717879 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I made it I would require the program, as well as a hardware for it to run on or an emulator which can run it < 1375482347 917696 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Also I'm at home. < 1375482348 652923 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: dili's across indonesia so you won't have that problem. < 1375482355 32471 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok right so the other one. < 1375482372 673457 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: but it would take, like, at least 24 hours, right? < 1375482381 972592 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, yes < 1375482387 974120 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what you're saying is I should ride a bike all night long. < 1375482388 174405 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have to be back for bed time < 1375482393 842519 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. I see. < 1375482426 682658 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually a little over a fortnight. < 1375482427 337208 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fug < 1375482434 463453 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there anything about if the hardware gets damaged by the program? Can this be done using the computers you listed? (I know with the Famicom it is probably possible to damage it if you set the PPU to slave mode, since it will try to output a high signal to pins connected directly to ground; they should have put pull-down resistors there but they didn't (and if I make a hardware clone, I will put resistors there).) < 1375482436 413324 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have that kind of stamina, Bike. < 1375482451 99188 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This route includes a ferry." < 1375482470 33557 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This route includes a demo party in Finland." < 1375482477 660080 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Well, the rules say it must be delivered in executable form "if possible". But sometimes there's things like creative output devices, like that oscilloscope thing, where that doesn't really apply. (I think that one included a video, and then a sound file that made the oscilloscope picture.) < 1375482510 424602 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you might make an emulator of it and/or schematics? < 1375482543 543578 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turn left at Faisal Medical Store < 1375482550 703407 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the oscilloscope then of course a stereo sound file can help, although some lossy codecs are unsuitable. < 1375482570 592846 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Pass by Ahsan Ali -SEO Expert -SEO " see you could use this elliott < 1375482643 617547 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the route link is in the logs < 1375482645 764244 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the raelly long one < 1375482650 504756 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one that went to antarctica and stuff < 1375482751 464659 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: I've been progressively less "on board" every year. Back in the 90s I bought the desktop and speakers and slept under the table (before that was forbidden) and did the whole live-in thing; last few years I've been just bringing the laptop and mostly Bike-ing home to sleep; and this year I've just got the tablet and external keyboard, and went home at like 11pm. < 1375482817 674359 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleeping under the table sounds a little unpleasant < 1375482847 944874 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's also verboten nowadays. Fire risk this and security that. < 1375482864 811671 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :People did kick you in the head occasionally, there's that. < 1375482877 783797 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone going to 30C3? < 1375482936 864196 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, oh there is a demo thingy going on now? < 1375482939 145122 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're also much more serious with the checking of baggage on the entrances now that it's a "mainstream" event. < 1375482949 774306 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do the programs ever damage the hardware? (I do not know of any Famicom emulator that will display a warning when the PPU is switched into slave move, although it is a feature I would like to see.) < 1375482957 884203 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: checking it for dangerous things? or for drugz? < 1375482963 855153 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Both. < 1375482970 14470 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, so where do people sleep if you can't sleep under the tables? < 1375482980 264989 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, on top of them? < 1375482982 65791 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Well, and alcohol; you need to go outside for that. < 1375482989 964139 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at Coachella they made people dump out water bottles, I guess because you could sneak booze in, but also so that you would buy overpriced water inside :( < 1375482997 645719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alcohol is a drug < 1375483000 258888 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: presumably about as verboten as under the tables sleeping < 1375483004 909023 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: There's separate sleeping areas in the third floor hallways. < 1375483007 894382 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I guess so yeah < 1375483020 875651 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are you going to 30C3? < 1375483032 954668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: maybe < 1375483037 805996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't made any plans or anything < 1375483039 243656 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so is caffeine technically < 1375483040 783712 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it sounds fun < 1375483041 519027 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the web page boasts 22 people attending! < 1375483041 748104 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Don't tell anyone, but people did DRUGZ inside in dark corners back when the event was still at the Congress Centre. < 1375483042 490309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1375483047 789478 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375483062 674178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you were there before it was cool < 1375483074 484309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: im doing drugz at work, right now < 1375483091 475126 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: recording this in my "in case I ever need to blackmail kmc" file < 1375483094 625000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It's not really cool yet either, I think the right word is "popular". < 1375483103 946792 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 cool 4 school < 1375483143 233406 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I haven't heard of any case of that happening, and it's not mentioned in the rules. I guess they'd try to figure out if it was intentional or accidental. < 1375483146 614502 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice, somebody leaked the official GBC programming manual. for, some reason < 1375483157 267591 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, meaning you don't want to get a proper well paid job after? < 1375483168 833401 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Does it have anything that the unofficial ones don't have? < 1375483181 306077 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1375483184 534535 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's several hundred pages < 1375483192 425247 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I would like if an emulator is able to detect these kind of things, though. < 1375483193 125401 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, GBC standing for? < 1375483199 4405 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :gameboy colour? < 1375483212 164275 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ayup < 1375483218 214007 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1375483318 551951 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"RULES OF ATTRACTION: CATCHING A PEAHEN'S EYE" i was not ready for paper titles < 1375483359 675344 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, context? < 1375483385 414484 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://jeb.biologists.org/content/216/16/i.1.full about what you'd expect < 1375483403 34362 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375483409 384350 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, a pea-hen! < 1375483447 19060 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you didn't even mention things about fisherians runaways in your into! < 1375483448 762109 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :intro* < 1375483460 24548 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, yorick speaks. < 1375483475 784195 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://llvm.org/docs/ProgrammersManual.html#sentinels ghostly sentinels < 1375483484 414684 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my intro to what now < 1375483486 803431 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I never speak < 1375483490 115078 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: to the paper thingy < 1375483504 168219 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: does rust use llvm for the backend? < 1375483516 574642 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning < 1375483516 774740 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is always a work in progress. < 1375483517 344288 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1375483518 616487 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The model did not find strong support, in part because it is difficult to experimentally test.[citation needed]" irony? < 1375483551 354606 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"LIFE AT HIGH pH: MANAGING AMMONIA" #blazeit < 1375483611 491372 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1375483613 406547 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1375483642 915098 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ping < 1375483643 114862 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That Pong alone cannot stop! < 1375483649 314957 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal NICK :Vorpal < 1375483651 264792 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1375483653 884915 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bit laggy < 1375483659 159734 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: If you're interested in graphics things, there was a presentation at Assembly describing two (SIGGRAPH) papers from our university that both were at least mildly interesting. < 1375483668 581187 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: https://mediatech.aalto.fi/publications/graphics/GMLT < 1375483676 119882 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: https://mediatech.aalto.fi/publications/graphics/FourierSVBRDF < 1375483694 876854 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hm, the first one looks mildly interesting indeed < 1375483700 620382 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I haven't checked what material they have there, I just saw the talk.) < 1375483708 295161 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what SVBRDF is < 1375483752 544364 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that's what you can capture practically in the frequency domain < 1375483756 266089 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The GMLT is a raytracery kind of thing, and the latter is "collect material parameters (for a renderer) from samples without fancy custom hardware". < 1375483756 465887 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: hey gimme a ballpark here, how hospitable is a pH of 10 < 1375483767 835231 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: um. that doesn't sound very hospitable < 1375483784 437265 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, diffuse/specular stuff and surface normals and that kind of stuff. < 1375483786 535393 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 is apparently baking soda < 1375483786 935221 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it basic or acidic < 1375483788 665509 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, ah < 1375483789 350967 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basic < 1375483796 551963 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i see < 1375483801 162794 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well apparently some fish live in that. < 1375483801 361141 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike you should know this stuff, you know biology right? < 1375483804 45382 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is like. basic stuff < 1375483808 734970 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut up < 1375483826 420111 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And the non-fancy hardware includes a DSLR and a monitor used as a controllable area light they put patterns on.) < 1375483835 475666 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION knows she has succeeded whenever bike says 'shut up' < 1375483846 925148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :succeeded in what < 1375483855 668753 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :puns < 1375483945 155707 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last time i did pH stuff was high school ;~; < 1375483998 54418 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Was it p. "H"(ot stuff). < 1375484002 196777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time i visit kmc is like high school < 1375484006 177388 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(drugz joke) < 1375484078 148388 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does shachaf live in kmc territory? < 1375484104 617391 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quoteadd Fiora: hey gimme a ballpark here, how hospitable is a pH of 10 is it basic or acidic bike you should know this stuff, you know biology right? this is like. basic stuff. shut up < 1375484106 36119 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quoteadd: not found < 1375484111 905714 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :agh what's the command again <.< < 1375484117 65943 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :addquote? < 1375484121 204591 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :addquote < 1375484126 727292 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :addquote! < 1375484126 927140 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Fiora: hey gimme a ballpark here, how hospitable is a pH of 10 is it basic or acidic bike you should know this stuff, you know biology right? this is like. basic stuff. shut up < 1375484127 126847 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :_$SP$fn.$x27static$LP$$BP$Window$C$$x20i32$C$$x20i32$C$$x20i32$C$$x20i32$RP$::_e8625186375dbd8e::glue_drop_4727 < 1375484129 156443 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolpun < 1375484130 33589 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1081) Fiora: hey gimme a ballpark here, how hospitable is a pH of 10 is it basic or acidic bike you should know this stuff, you know biology right? this is like. basic stuff. shut up < 1375484130 233368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :best function name < 1375484138 512564 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ah, c++ < 1375484143 726712 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yorick: Rust actually < 1375484146 168130 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not c++ mangling < 1375484157 537320 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c++ mangling I could undo with c++filt < 1375484163 665261 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might have been :P < 1375484171 176914 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is probably a way to undo this < 1375484172 674211 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact Rust uses C++ mangling too, this has already been de-mangled once < 1375484180 966361 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is certainly a way in principle, I could write the tool, I may do it < 1375484182 296093 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '1081s/ Fiora: hey gimme a ballpark here, how hospitable is a pH of 10 is it basic or acidic bike you should know this stuff, you know biology right? this is like. basic stuff. shut up < 1375484190 316247 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does nm include rust demangling yet < 1375484194 746223 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1375484195 390876 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1375484201 266086 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '1081s/ Fiora: hey gimme a ballpark here, how hospitable is a pH of 10 is it basic or acidic bike you should know this stuff, you know biology right? this is like. basic stuff. shut up < 1375484206 744379 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wave of the future and all < 1375484207 912943 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1375484208 916388 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bed at sed < 1375484209 756165 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bed at sed < 1375484220 895579 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :besd ad set < 1375484248 767472 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :basd af stuh < 1375484251 456511 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does rust specify a manglation < 1375484283 406349 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably does run manglatons < 1375484421 816434 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :manglatron < 1375484493 877024 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we heard you like double frees so we put a call to your destructor in your destructor so you caSegmentation fault < 1375484518 377014 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ bt < 1375484527 724302 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1375484589 311127 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that reminds me, some c++ compilers automatically call destructors when you longjmp < 1375484643 407480 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375484678 526463 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(others don't ... good luck knowing which one you are) < 1375484705 752878 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yikes < 1375484717 507147 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :set up a destructor to test it < 1375484729 220516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not something I'd expect from longjmp... < 1375484778 867449 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have once made up some sokoban compression, which worked well (and Huffman coding it would improve it even more; I calculated how much more), but could a better one be made, so that games that are impossible to solve are not representable (or at least so a lot of them are)? < 1375484996 77843 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know you're not allowed to goto / switch-jump across the construction of a non-POD object < 1375485014 358372 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :POD? < 1375485022 397666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plain Old Data < 1375485023 457818 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :plain old data < 1375485026 398058 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, what C++ programmers call normal C structs < 1375485030 418568 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh. < 1375485033 468015 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and ints and so on) < 1375485049 17833 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't jump across the call to a constructor? < 1375485060 58200 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correct, pretty sure it is a compiler error < 1375485104 297864 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, of course it will be possible if that object is no longer in scope < 1375485115 788027 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :the issue is the cases where it would be in scope < 1375485278 488917 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ vaguely tries to ensure that if you have a value of type Foo (or &Foo) then it's been properly initialized by Foo's constructor < 1375485285 939109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course there are many of ways to break this by casting and such < 1375485297 238470 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhhh, that makes sense < 1375485317 400455 :augur_!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375485364 361750 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375485385 858498 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :iamfishhead: what's the "Y X is best X" thing? < 1375485672 209490 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg "Caltrain is best train"? < 1375485718 534689 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg "cal train is best train"? < 1375485758 597267 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, That metropolis paper is quite interesting indeed < 1375485784 919289 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, eg that. < 1375486051 459719 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night < 1375486509 231465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night < 1375486550 83788 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :♞ < 1375486586 415320 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I'm pissed off with computers I go and interact with people, and then when I get pissed off about people I go back to interacting with computers < 1375486588 160829 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Checkmate! < 1375486589 571513 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it all makes sense really < 1375486607 741189 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :n.b. this is less obvious than it seems because a lot of the interacting with people is done via computers < 1375486611 211125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what if it's computer people < 1375486621 783364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that < 1375486623 611391 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually is < 1375486652 158863 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :do bots count as people or computers? < 1375486656 711484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :computers < 1375486683 922704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about interacting with different people < 1375486704 71323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it an annoyance with people in general < 1375486741 491909 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes either < 1375486757 641279 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375486759 992103 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1375486770 151493 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :with "people in general" i'm often not so much annoyed as exhausted or something < 1375486774 831429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't know < 1375486806 821396 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's true < 1375486816 1763 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible to run out of social energy without being in anyway upset or perturbed < 1375487155 824644 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375488073 84104 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375488498 416889 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375488984 906428 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"100.75 T: strongest (pulsed) magnetic field yet obtained non-destructively in a laboratory" < 1375488988 537007 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"730 T: strongest pulsed magnetic field yet obtained in a laboratory, destroying the used equipment, but not the laboratory itself" < 1375488996 528520 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.8kT: "strongest (pulsed) magnetic field ever obtained (with explosives) in a laboratory" < 1375489002 346119 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: #overlyhonestmethods < 1375489032 326557 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend using explosives outside of laboratories < 1375489034 416612 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I lost it at "but not the laboratory itself" < 1375489129 856445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did i use to think the word was "labroratory" years ago < 1375489145 608778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently that's p. common so maybe i picked it up from someone else < 1375489156 866539 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :similary: "substract" < 1375489392 586986 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The facility contains 14 resistive magnet cells connected to a newly upgraded 48 megawatt DC power supply and 15,000 square feet (1,400 m2) of cooling equipment to remove the heat generated by the magnets." @____@ < 1375489551 784762 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375489884 58546 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: #perfectlyhonestmethods < 1375489928 518720 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#thingsthatlooklikeircchannelnames < 1375489930 878206 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: also https://twitter.com/search?q=%23sciconfessions < 1375490050 58169 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, does Bike follow me on twitter < 1375490053 378209 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess not :'( < 1375490057 168639 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh gosh XD < 1375490117 968653 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Had this as the forward to my thesis because mice ruled my life for the last 2 years. http://instagram.com/p/RNm5_7w2rc/ " oh gosh < 1375490121 381299 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are amazing < 1375490185 288946 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"who knew some bins weren't autoclave safe" < 1375490266 398730 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still somewhat worried that "walk-in autoclave" is a thing that exists < 1375490288 148801 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I've exposed and developed X-ray film to make extremely dark eye protectors for the lab to look at a solar eclipse." < 1375490382 128010 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375490405 780596 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cabbages shatter into a million tiny bits if you put them in liquid nitrogen and then throw them at each other #sciconfessions" < 1375490603 160522 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375490618 367746 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who didn't do that in high school < 1375490660 699664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: How many years of bad luck is that? < 1375490668 209186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that was covered in my manual... < 1375490670 719741 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't do it >_< < 1375490688 449282 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is probably how they make frozen shredded cabbage < 1375490710 930340 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I used 200 proof EtOH to make jello shots " < 1375490729 631252 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I used the autoclave to cook corn on the cob. It was delicious on a 5 min fast exhaust cycle" < 1375490733 250370 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohmy gosh this tag < 1375490755 900491 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hey do you actually need the object mapping part of a functor < 1375490881 910026 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1375490891 490411 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1375490978 615 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://www.labsolutely.org/2013/07/31/sciconfessions-confess-your-lab-sins/ here's a summary list thing < 1375491069 11413 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As an undergrad, I managed to melt laboratory glassware during practicals. Now I am doing bioinformatics. " there's a cruel joke here < 1375491265 170633 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (2*3*5*7)^2 < 1375491266 150999 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 44100 < 1375491266 880909 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um. which list is the homestuck list < 1375491323 381344 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist < 1375491325 871473 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1375491327 571108 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1375491454 212060 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1375491578 372593 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yaaay, new box up. < 1375491672 552745 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375491695 225868 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375491776 504539 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375491858 974491 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375491862 411979 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup < 1375491870 92047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :soup < 1375491888 381985 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1375491895 953582 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :inf < 1375492020 802472 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chickens have magnetoreception. what the fuck < 1375492079 412262 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do they use it for < 1375492093 322332 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crossing roads < 1375492105 372785 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :navigating. i guess. < 1375492129 822921 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can train them to find a "social stimulus" (haven't read the paper) along magnetic axes. < 1375492355 684253 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC humans have profoundly weak magnetoreception. < 1375492777 569934 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some humans, however, have found strong magnets irresistible < 1375492845 600355 :tromp!~tromp@rtc34-155.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375493446 306097 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375493813 609046 :tromp!~tromp@rtc34-155.rentec.com QUIT : < 1375494220 215656 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Bxh8# ever happen? (I can make up a way for it to happen, but I don't know if they have actualy done this.) < 1375494243 707091 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is Bxh8#? < 1375494254 940266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :chess notation? < 1375494263 598626 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes. < 1375494269 515093 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1375494289 659802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :échecs < 1375494313 873683 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bishop in a corner, capturing for checkmate. < 1375494341 605869 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bishop takes at H8 checkmate? Hmmmm. < 1375494343 639628 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tricky. < 1375494629 197575 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375494631 788951 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1375495203 719067 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to do it by moving out of some other piece's way no? < 1375495212 699061 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like out of a rook or a queen's path < 1375495243 18928 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it does have to be discovered check, as far as I can see. < 1375495524 981542 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :has < 1375495525 993499 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to < 1375495551 640657 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :moving to a corner doesn't add any new squares available to the bishop < 1375495560 576303 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it can't give check < 1375496038 974095 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infocom's documentation for the PTSIZE instruction of the Z-machine has the strange wording "Guaranteed to return a meaningless value". < 1375496104 191241 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was written by nal < 1375496140 695501 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375496344 24609 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375496355 512949 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1375496630 572122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's that < 1375496651 681522 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dual of conal < 1375496675 984006 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1375496689 173880 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375497062 581184 :augur_!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net NICK :augur < 1375498650 784748 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't you have Bxh8# by having the bishop moving /away/ from where it was cause it, and the capture be incidental? < 1375498938 348308 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not understand what you mean. < 1375498966 808063 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean a discovered check? < 1375498995 587270 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's the term, sorry. < 1375499006 187152 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is also what I wrote above. < 1375499012 398106 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what madbr wrote too. < 1375499022 386993 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, discovered works. < 1375499034 108014 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry >_> < 1375499186 199704 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe like this: 4K1kn/6B1/6Q1/8/8/8/8/8 (This is the one I was thinking of when I wrote "I can make up a way for it to happen", but I was also wondering if an actual chess game in some tournament was ever with a move Bxh8#) < 1375499231 137165 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of the chess move databases i found in cursory googling are only openings. < 1375499296 98059 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the worst possible chess opening? < 1375499307 897392 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Scholar's Mate, I guess. < 1375499310 900723 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :resignation < 1375499317 127017 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually the Fool's Mate is the worse. < 1375499327 626869 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe at least a chess problem. < 1375499338 309547 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aside from the one where white opens up to checkmate in 2 moves yeah < 1375499340 717920 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scholar's Mate is when the opponent does it. < 1375499358 240573 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"20. The Ammonia Attack (Nh3) - Pros: None. Cons: All the same as Na3, plus the king's knight is arguably of slightly more potential importance in the opening than the queen's since the e-pawn needs extra protection in ways the d-pawn doesn't." < 1375499362 59641 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there mates in any number of moves more than two? < 1375500836 527236 :heroux_!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1375501050 208431 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375501055 581592 :heroux_!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl NICK :heroux < 1375502333 855711 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375502780 447301 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375502780 697253 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1375502780 697345 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375502951 594867 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375503030 607703 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375504020 584797 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.153.222 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1375505323 170274 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ProfStef has jumped the shark < 1375505423 455536 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not at all obvious how to get to it in a useful way from opening Pharo for the first time < 1375505458 48941 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a ProfStef tutorials button, but trying it leads to a help browser, which doesn't support right-clicking a selection to DoIt, completely screwing the innocent user out of being able to follow the tutorial < 1375506412 512706 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375509372 354973 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have read recently of a chess variant called "Czech Chess", which is: If the piece you moved gives check, put a pawn of your own color in the space it moved from. If the space it moved from is in the promotion zone, the placed pawn is immediately promoted. There is no promotion to queens in this game. < 1375509451 66832 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375509487 539718 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1375512907 935714 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375513572 635742 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1375513800 442835 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375518094 94820 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1375519344 986055 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi everybody < 1375519715 485060 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375519859 861860 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a weird dream last night < 1375520022 534836 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375520037 192126 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was at a small social do near the entrance to an abandoned mine < 1375520058 642586 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the abandoned mine probably wasn't important, might be to do with the Lego I bought yesterday) < 1375520073 9342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc < 1375520082 61139 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helloneb < 1375520197 124200 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1375520210 737538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: did you know every functor : C -> Set that has a left adjoint is representable? < 1375520225 745176 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not! < 1375520271 241903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, in haskell, if F and G are endofunctors and F -| G, then G x ~ (R -> x) for some R < 1375520320 879139 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is kind of straightforward because F -| G p. much means forall a b. (F a -> b) ~ (a -> G b) < 1375520326 745852 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so just pick a = () < 1375521712 42317 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, in this dream, I made friends with some guy who had moved from south-east Asia < 1375521850 485345 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375522066 275309 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375522653 476185 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375523023 235232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1375523187 478433 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1375523349 631822 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375523912 470860 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then I gave him a hug and it turned out he was gay and had a crush on me < 1375524086 925141 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, there's a guy giving a seminar on PS4 development. < 1375524089 753294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :charming < 1375524104 546004 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Please don't take any photos and this won't be streamed." < 1375524114 344369 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm getting some EXCLUSIVE info here, that's fer shur. < 1375524138 825858 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's some guy who's a "Principal Engineer" at SCEE R&D.) < 1375524179 257453 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There are some slides here that are... sensitive." < 1375524204 218365 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Please don't hurt their feelings" < 1375524284 783457 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far it's just been a PR blurb. < 1375524301 584987 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Core Gamers" "fun for the whole family" "frictionless interaction" blah blah. < 1375524389 451109 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375524440 353848 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at least it proceeded on to some specs and such. < 1375524610 229603 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1375524848 689326 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots of emphasis on doing general sort of computing on the GPU. < 1375524914 922207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask quintopia nonetheless, it is a useless exercise at the moment, as I have been moving north slowly for 4.5 months, so the centroid would be rather erratic <-- are you on a boat or something < 1375524915 167584 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1375524919 97423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:17:19: ekmnosy < 1375524976 88085 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Maybe it was a reference to continental drift. < 1375524991 442289 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did i manage to select bike's comment too < 1375524998 292114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ooh < 1375526198 664725 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375526390 168316 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL: PS4 has a hardware video encoder that's always on and keeps a buffer of the last few minutes of what's happened. < 1375526406 751008 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They seem to be very much about the social thing.) < 1375526489 124939 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375526749 299747 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1375526751 166749 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next up: "Strange Days in the Rift" < 1375526794 616547 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's something related to the Oculus thing.) < 1375526894 276089 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need the same thing for my terminal < 1375527068 957777 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, who needs to see the world when you've got a terminal. < 1375527199 42341 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375527254 213262 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375527822 303912 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rift seems to be hip and pop, those seating places are all filled up. < 1375527928 451996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh; I tried to make that presence plot finger-draggably, but for some reason it only drags for a small amount and then stops. < 1375528340 483581 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don' < 1375528356 755531 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :t suppose Android-Chrome has some way of e.g. showing the console.foo() logs? < 1375528435 205636 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does. < 1375528440 955776 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You connect it up to your computer with USB debugging < 1375528451 726025 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can run the whole developer tools thing on your computer < 1375528454 515275 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm here with the tablet only. < 1375528460 117567 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debugging and inspecting also works. < 1375528461 629962 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1375528480 536166 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could just postpone fixing it until I get home. < 1375528493 279274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's so easy, like a monoid. < 1375528720 760056 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monoid < 1375528722 769626 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoids are just categories with a single object. < 1375528774 907188 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monad < 1375528776 497309 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1375528814 748834 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1375528850 356706 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote lax.functor < 1375528850 556446 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin says: a monad is just a lax functor from a terminal bicategory, duh. fuck that monoid in category of endofunctors shit < 1375529002 160217 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog love.*so easy < 1375529009 322390 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-02-26.txt:18:40:12: I love morpeth, it is so easy < 1375529020 231353 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs love.*so easy < 1375529035 753907 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.8686 < 1375529062 220664 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :pls explain Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1375529090 117805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? category < 1375529090 470643 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :monoid laws (identity and associativity) give monad laws < 1375529092 292740 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Categories are just a special case of bicategories. < 1375529127 121000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's the most useful learndb.) < 1375529152 94215 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bicategory < 1375529154 157473 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicategories are just categories where composition is only associative up to an isomorphism. < 1375529178 169932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? isomorphism < 1375529179 783003 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :isomorphism is isomorphic to Phantom_Hoover up to isomorphism. < 1375529223 578207 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have an endofunctor M, with morphisms 0, 1, 2, 3, ... < 1375529249 694012 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that give you a monad M with eta and mu < 1375529611 899381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "monoid in a category" thing is something very abstract that is not the same as an ordinary monoid. < 1375529676 909169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in some sense, eta is the "identity" and mu is the "multiplication", iirc < 1375529757 311062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except i've forgotten how exactly it goes. < 1375529852 218145 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1375529926 521813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eta :: x -> m x, mu :: m (m x) -> m x and eta . mu = id, mu . fmap eta = id is what corresponds to the identity laws < 1375529940 534916 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hm associativity would be... < 1375529948 206346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mu . fmap mu = mu . mu < 1375529952 589668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1375529980 280865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :m (m (m x)) -> m x and it doesn't matter which m you apply the mu to < 1375529995 848074 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right if M (an endofunctor) is your object, then your monoid maps (0, 1, and all the rest) are natural transforms < 1375529999 169355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*which m pair < 1375530033 762144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what do 0, 1 have to do with monoids < 1375530063 261097 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just think of a monoid that way < 1375530084 816462 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375530100 525059 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess thats wrong < 1375530110 431876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well a monoid has an identity which you might call 0 or 1, but i have no idea what you mean if you use both < 1375530248 405689 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the morphisms in the category of endomorphisms are natural transformations though. < 1375530493 448062 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we have endofunctor M and id : M -> M and * : MxM -> M < 1375530550 355058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have been trying to point that what's meant by "monoid in a category" is _not_ a monoid in the usual sense. < 1375530560 633842 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh :( < 1375530565 196978 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it then? < 1375530628 768905 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's what you get if you put the idea of "monoid" through a process of analogy to a categorical level, which i think can be applied to any sort of algebra. < 1375530719 353346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, think of m (m x) as analogous to MxM, and mu as your * < 1375530728 490273 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats cheating < 1375530739 945311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1375530741 358660 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a lie < 1375530766 571649 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for helping expose this lie < 1375530777 48606 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Category theory: provoking strong emotions since [year]. < 1375530777 255135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it is a construction category theoreticians use, anyway < 1375530811 524413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: well the whole "monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors" thing is a half-joke anyway. < 1375530842 105761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is really to be expected that the thing on the right is more complicated than it seems. < 1375530851 498317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sounds. < 1375530930 15920 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The presentation will showcase Z Vector (http://www.z-vector.com). A new type of real-time VJ and music visualization software specifically made for depth sensors such as the Microsoft Kinect and the PrimeSense Carmine. The basic functionality of the software will be covered ("virtual camera tracking", stereoscopic rendering, GLSL shaders etc.). Tuomisto will also do a short real-time, fully ... < 1375530936 22889 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... live controlled improvisational performance to a set music background." < 1375530938 519116 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So modern. < 1375530943 866974 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait oerjan < 1375530955 353085 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you just replace x with o (composition) it works? < 1375531017 924600 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose that is what it does, sort of < 1375531088 108334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you i am not entirely clear on this, since i have not learned how this analogizing works for more general things than monoids. i just remember the diagrams i saw for monads ~ monoids. < 1375531150 778729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expect wikipedia probably has articles on this stuff. < 1375531828 415475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1081 < 1375531829 816634 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1081) Fiora: hey gimme a ballpark here, how hospitable is a pH of 10 is it basic or acidic bike you should know this stuff, you know biology right? this is like. basic stuff. shut up < 1375531840 507053 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah fixed already. < 1375532596 17531 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla, i think you need to use a categorical formulation of monoids in general < 1375532641 977070 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats that < 1375532652 631684 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1375532713 550763 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375532783 532255 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375533162 236985 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLOT OF THE DAY https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130803-tmp.png < 1375533242 34705 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it looks fuzzy < 1375533258 235637 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also not entirely certain it's correct. < 1375533281 78288 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But who can say, right? < 1375533392 571761 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the X axis is time (from 1000 days ago to yesterday, left-to-right) and the Y axis goes from 0 Hz (top) to 0.00055 Hz (bottom). < 1375533598 657699 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The peak at about 10 pixels from the top corresponds to (1/24*60*60) Hz. < 1375533757 29973 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Rebooting < 1375533821 85231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a plot, or fizzie's felt carpet? only time will show. < 1375533840 174082 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and ehm, what is the actual data? < 1375533849 353520 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1375534043 377391 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I lost it at "but not the laboratory itself" <-- i like how that implies the next item listed _did_ destroy the laboratory. < 1375534069 636347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Fiora I lost it at "but not the laboratory itself" <-- i like how that implies the next item listed _did_ destroy the laboratory. < 1375534069 840371 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1375534328 733525 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1375534427 513709 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375534500 412885 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375534620 715784 :MBEFDC2!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375534623 153144 :MBEFDC2!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375534689 144705 :MBEFDC2!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375534696 274012 :MBEFDC2!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375535166 724404 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375535362 983788 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1375535379 58738 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :yorick: Channel activity. (Number of characters in messages during 15-minute intervals.) < 1375535389 233817 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1375535427 185585 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what happened during that week where nothing happened? < 1375535427 892879 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1375535428 702531 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, you've got some nice new graphs? < 1375535443 944894 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice is an overstatement :P < 1375535446 293538 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Sadly, no. Just "new", not "nice". < 1375535457 595428 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naughty new graphs. < 1375535473 843040 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a niggardly new plot < 1375535477 978095 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: also, why is there a white line about 10 pixels from the top? < 1375535493 832467 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :yorick: I explanated that. < 1375535503 346092 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you did < 1375535506 86705 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :yorick: It's the 1/(24*60*60) Hz line. < 1375535515 662563 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1375535524 618044 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to understand this plot < 1375535535 810159 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think the X axis is time (from 1000 days ago to yesterday, left-to-right) and the Y axis goes from 0 Hz (top) to 0.00055 Hz (bottom). < 1375535540 398731 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It's just the STFT of channel activity. < 1375535572 153195 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a guy here talking on the topic of "How Not to Suck at Pinball". (Apparently some kind of pinball professional/enthusiast.) < 1375535597 442927 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an obvious column of less activity with more activity after it around the middle area < 1375535598 991183 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happened < 1375535625 662195 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Could be an artefact in my logs. < 1375535640 296703 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: whiter is higer, then? < 1375535653 879856 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yes, and the intensity axis is logarithmic. < 1375535666 227404 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1375535670 753739 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so the line is there because of the "day changed" message? < 1375535671 33536 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's the other way round then ¬u¬ < 1375535688 29281 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes who makes graphs that have white higher < 1375535736 687165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :yorick: No, it's there because the overall channel activity has a strong daily variation: http://zem.fi/ircvis/esoteric/people_tod.html < 1375535752 637494 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you imagine that repeating, it's almost a sine wave at that frequency.) < 1375535781 238828 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :a very ugly sine wave < 1375535826 695407 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're so judgmental < 1375536350 467247 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Android YouTube player can't be left to play things in the background? Aww. < 1375536415 305368 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22989236/fixedit.png <-- tell me that this is a nice sine graph then :P < 1375536640 431079 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :yorick: Any hump in a storm... < 1375536781 378566 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sailor's motto < 1375537693 534672 :dessos_!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375537831 460535 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375537898 339132 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375537950 351799 :Lymia!~moe@108-205-143-75.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375537950 610766 :Lymia!~moe@108-205-143-75.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Changing host < 1375537950 610920 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1375537970 838467 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375538135 809646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375538488 181414 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1375539315 682559 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: basically, yeah XD < 1375539874 418580 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1375539885 652294 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1375539894 54745 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like everyone and their brother did a 1k intro this year. < 1375539898 143584 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were like 13 entries. < 1375539922 624907 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was terribly popular last year too; it's like the up-and-coming competition format. < 1375539990 615249 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember seeing 4K ones get really impressive a few years ago, maybe they're moving to 1K because it's harder to stand out as a 4K? < 1375540003 257660 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is most likely what's happening. < 1375540012 815960 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're PUSHING that BOUNDARY. < 1375540025 53808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next, 256b. < 1375540040 882755 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, pouet's categorization dropdown already goes down to 16b or 32b or so. < 1375540059 263072 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :32b @_@ < 1375540080 371758 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The entries of that category aren't... terribly interesting. < 1375540090 187256 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is 256b small enough that compression isn't usually used? < 1375540095 791719 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 1k ones now are pretty much as good as 4k ones a couple years ago < 1375540149 877111 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: There aren't that many 256b's, but the break-even point w.r.t. compression is probably somewhere there. < 1375540183 152925 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course if you "cheat" you don't necessarily have to include decompression code, which means it can still be a win as long as the compression format has low overhead. < 1375540217 92172 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 1ks were quite "fractally", unsurprisingly. < 1375540231 456459 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheat? < 1375540266 650924 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "pipe $0 through xz" approach. < 1375540279 654622 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or xzcat or whatever. < 1375540365 786310 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez, do they allow that? < 1375540378 536100 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I thought the demos used, like, COM files, so they didnt have to have the ELF overhead (?) < 1375540383 541858 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't checked the rules, exactly; but I've seen that sort of stuff. < 1375540401 342131 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I don't think you can have COM files on Linux sensibly. :p < 1375540411 205785 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the ones I remember seeing were for windows... < 1375540420 389658 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or in Windows if you want to call DLLs, I don't think. < 1375540451 2109 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was under the impression that if you run a .com file, it gets ran under the old 16-bit virtual thing. < 1375540480 956534 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I'm certainly no expert on DOS/Windows demos. < 1375540500 98806 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to find one < 1375540504 160782 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummmmm http://pouet.net/prod.php?which=32589 maybe? < 1375540518 379091 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah you can gzip your stuff on Linux for about 50b of overhead < 1375540529 792845 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pouet.net/prodlist.php?type[]=256b most of these seem to say DOS? < 1375540532 427835 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just did that for teh lulz < 1375540539 946926 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gosh, one is for the commodore 64 @_@ < 1375540557 469165 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well DOS has a zero-overhead executable format < 1375540562 770335 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is an advantage < 1375540564 753537 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: My uncompression wrapper is 59 bytes, but it properly uses mktemp instead of the conventional hardcoded /tmp/X. < 1375540571 597417 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1375540576 577718 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lumpio.dy.fi/b/lors.sh < 1375540578 832973 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's the one I usedo < 1375540580 648819 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :-o < 1375540582 564028 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just for teh lulz < 1375540583 968737 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :59 bytes is a reasonable fraction of 256 bytes, though. < 1375540593 322327 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should rewrite that so that it works on a vanilla ubuntu or something < 1375540602 934866 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah well it's a balancing act. < 1375540606 26057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1375540618 54386 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having trouble following links here. SSH works nice, web-browsing less so. < 1375540645 143414 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :x=`mktemp`;tail -n+2 $0|lzcat>$x;chmod +x $x;$x;rm $x;exit < 1375540653 434285 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's mine.) < 1375540666 38256 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah mine-s the same except with no mktemp and zcat instead of lzcat < 1375540681 154015 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that do?? < 1375540694 821411 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does what do < 1375540699 349198 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric : x=`mktemp`;tail -n+2 $0|lzcat>$x;chmod +x $x;$x;rm $x;exit < 1375540706 368002 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You prefix a compressed executable with it. < 1375540726 430469 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1375540728 317628 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then when you run it, it'll uncompress the rest (tail -n+2 $0 is the rest of the file) and runs the result. < 1375540749 706809 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's really sneaky < 1375540757 844212 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another popular Linux/ELF intro trick: import dynamic library symbols by hash. < 1375540770 369135 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol yeah < 1375540777 36915 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Asymptotic" cost of 4 bytes/symbol, whereas the names can be quite long.) < 1375540781 32135 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was lazy and just linked everything normally < 1375540793 354881 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or even less than 4 if you can come up with a good hash! < 1375540811 348719 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what audio codecs vanilla ubuntu comes with < 1375540819 705408 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure it doesn't do MP3 and it'd be the most efficient for this. < 1375540826 572728 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :speex is bloated as hell < 1375540828 103746 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :On Windows people usually imported by ordinal, I believe. < 1375540835 368311 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375540871 956181 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've (re)implemented the hash-import trick for fun one evening -- http://zem.fi/hashlink -- might not be the most optimilized one out there, but at least it's documented. < 1375541013 700389 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just need to add a binfmt handler for compressed programs. < 1375541085 839302 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were also a couple of JavaScript 1k's; there's a long-running web competition (js1k.com) for those. < 1375541086 244873 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha so you've done proper 4k stuff huh < 1375541103 520412 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: If you were allowed to do that you might as well add a binfmt handler for your entire demo ;P < 1375541120 478393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :binfmt handler that runs your demo for all zero-byte files. < 1375541127 901624 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you can have your 0k intro. < 1375541136 856494 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or make an intro that like, wgets your actual intro < 1375541147 709958 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The intro to your intro < 1375541156 239994 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, even better, um < 1375541157 494708 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cs.fit.edu/~mmahoney/compression/barf.html < 1375541164 30100 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also make it display some nice graphics while it downloads your intro. < 1375541170 510120 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(summary: it compresses any file to zero bytes, losslessly, by adding the last byte to its file extension) < 1375541185 96438 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375541238 773290 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: IIRC, people have used the "data in file name" trick. < 1375541273 836057 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The compo machines generally aren't connected to the Interwebs to discourage the former. < 1375541279 798538 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's terrible < 1375541283 490716 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, the former, that is < 1375541301 851386 :augur_!~augur@71.57.182.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375541325 901880 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ioccc.org/1993/lmfjyh.c < 1375541402 595017 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh how does that even work < 1375541410 201100 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ioccc.org/1993/Makefile < 1375541435 430785 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh geez, so it's basically hiding the program in the makefile? < 1375541470 80623 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :${CC} ${CFLAGS} \"\;main\(\)\{puts\(\"Hello\ World!\"\)\;\}char\*C=\".c < 1375541526 978939 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375541558 801696 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375541560 274445 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me, case __LINE__: http://www.ioccc.org/1998/schweikh1.c < 1375541591 472287 :augur_!~augur@71.57.182.133 NICK :augur < 1375541619 409811 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: From what I recall, there also have been (multiuser) systems where quotas are computed based on just sum of sizes of files, that people have circumvented by mechanisms that store their data in names of dummy files. < 1375541646 45256 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's incredibly terribly evilly amazing. < 1375541660 275438 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: nice < 1375541889 807716 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: 'sed 1d' is shorter than 'tail -n+2' < 1375541909 835192 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And more portable) < 1375541933 545625 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Ack. < 1375541944 815516 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: You're not doing the Assembly thing? < 1375541951 189680 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, never have. < 1375541964 166821 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's no reason to not start now. < 1375541972 352301 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't a reason, it was an aside. < 1375541982 245383 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although admittedly it's kind of a silly place. < 1375542003 628105 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good place if you like delays in schedules, though. < 1375542020 798973 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The short film competition was supposed to start half an hour ago.) < 1375542189 110181 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's startinh. < 1375544006 637380 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1375544493 870705 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375544649 269505 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375544972 459949 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp, that was a long too. < 1375546006 517161 :ottianna!~canaima@190.77.213.38 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375546099 836440 :ottianna!~canaima@190.77.213.38 PART :#esoteric < 1375546351 304303 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375546582 409779 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375547394 557136 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375547698 849076 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375548115 199225 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's Irregular Webcomic annoys me because Cartesian coordinates are already named for Descartes I think < 1375548222 881531 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it says in the annotation. < 1375548699 843249 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How normal a name is "Kimi Räikkönen" in Finland? < 1375549411 167451 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375549451 276174 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375549739 442210 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1375549739 642075 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1375549745 312263 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf NICK :shachaf < 1375549767 981401 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: There have been 1305–1379 Kimis and 1948 Räikkönens in the last century or so. < 1375549794 931730 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So probably more common than Nathan van Doorn is in the UK < 1375549842 306912 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a TI-89 in the Wild. < 1375549860 54824 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't count it as a "real TI" because it has a 68k and not a Z80, though. < 1375549914 92540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also one RPi, one ZedBoard, one NDS, a couple of Androids and web browsers, and a few funky display devices (a 20x4 character LCD and an old metro station display). < 1375550202 123134 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: don't all 89s have 68ks? < 1375550261 432387 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure; so none of them are "real". < 1375550287 283107 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotcha < 1375550296 974919 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are pretty cool tho < 1375550305 182135 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other 8x models have a Z80 and therefore are. < 1375550311 101715 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's a pretty arbitrary distinction.) < 1375550332 612810 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always had a fondness for the 89/92 < 1375550352 755731 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd think they're cool if I had had one at school, probably; but TI-86 was the most "advanced" calculator you could have with you in exams. < 1375550382 916212 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :89/92 can (IIRC) do some symbolic stuff and was therefore a no-go. < 1375550630 127605 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a TI-92 calculator. < 1375550661 610149 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For exams it isn't allowed, not only because of the symbolic stuff but also because of the QWERTY keyboard. < 1375550680 421698 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, my school system wasn't exactly that smart < 1375550691 539748 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they even allowed 89s for use on the SAT back then < 1375550718 773811 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :my calc teacher made me wipe the memory before the final...which doesn't delete the archived items < 1375550728 723892 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i just archived everything i wanted to keep < 1375550783 864967 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember they didn't require to wipe the memory of whatever calculator is used, as long as you didn't access any of the stuff you programmed into it before the exam. < 1375550804 209380 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the honor system eh < 1375550854 994629 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They provided TI-83 to borrow. < 1375550890 104496 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1375550892 154370 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote a program for the 89 that would row-reduce a matrix, showing the operation performed at every step and the result of that operation. It was more fun to write than to do a bunch of row reduction homework assignments by hand, and once I had, I could just copy down the words that it spit out without having to do any math < 1375550949 544279 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you wrote the program, including displaying the steps, then certainly you would know how it works. < 1375550986 874236 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah row-reducing by hand is about the most pointless assignment ever < 1375551012 945137 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be better to just say "here's a matrix that's being reduced. what row operation should you do next?" < 1375551025 64671 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can answer that question consistently, you understand the process < 1375551053 564926 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I was the teacher I would accept that although if it is done during an exam you would have to write the program during the exam instead of before (you could borrow a calculator without anything programmed into it for the exam). < 1375551130 376131 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the program takes longer to write than just solving one problem < 1375551140 134955 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a stupid problem to give anyway is the point < 1375551146 925305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: For many mathematical stuff there is more than one way to arrive at the answer, though. < 1375551181 446471 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in high school math, they usually want you to "write it out" < 1375551208 695565 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that if you get the right answer the wrong way, they can still criticize < 1375551228 387284 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although there still might be more than one possible way to figure out. Of course a wrong way is wrong, but there can be more than one right way. < 1375551273 37525 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's usually only a problem if you are better at math than your math teacher < 1375551314 296905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it does happen. < 1375551338 485414 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately < 1375551343 326763 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although often the teacher understands that it is correct even if not necessarily the way taught. < 1375551352 496036 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason, the very best mathematicians don't tend to become high school teachers < 1375551353 956571 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But also often this doesn't happen. < 1375551371 655311 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In my experience, anyways, it works this way.) < 1375551416 640706 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have any ideas for improving math instruction for young people mr. zzo? < 1375551527 908869 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if a teacher sees something they didn't know on the paper, they should check if it is correct rather than to just assume it is wrong without checking. Other than that I don't have another suggestion at this time, although perhaps if they can teach that a student can understand why these steps are correct, would also help to understand mathematics (for both the teacher and students). < 1375551803 581466 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375552160 561619 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375552497 268849 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375552529 166928 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1375552555 669709 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375552720 938262 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp. The 4k's were all very nice (esp. the HBC entry), but somehow I feel I've been more amazed before. < 1375552732 89457 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly it's just familiarity with what can be done these days. < 1375552773 139930 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: which contest? < 1375552788 238693 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Assembly 2013 4k. < 1375552791 67475 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It just ended.) < 1375552800 910370 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I liked the last one the most. < 1375552801 189265 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1375552815 450237 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: So did everyone else. That's why they showed it the last. :p < 1375552828 28830 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also "Yog-Sothoth" < 1375552836 195542 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of the cool plant like thing < 1375552851 139261 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it was nice. < 1375552877 130464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tip for getting applause in a 4k: do something that looks like some sort of a real-world thing, instead of just abstract spikeballs. < 1375552894 471200 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(E.g. the room in that one thing, the plant, the highways in HBC's thing.) < 1375552920 979373 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lightbikes! < 1375552974 381740 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those, too. < 1375552979 601556 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shiny light-Bikes. < 1375553022 541158 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the city in that rain thing. < 1375553116 217467 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I should download some android thing this tablet can run so that I can show it if I need to explain anyone what the whole demoscene thing is about. < 1375553235 540857 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375553304 868418 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: What do you know about light-Bikes? < 1375553335 893094 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly that i'm not very good at gltron < 1375553364 170376 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We used to play some lightbike thing at the school classroom. < 1375553367 963506 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it ran over IPX. < 1375553438 593889 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :armagetron advanced is a hard game imo < 1375553462 252389 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since when is it called advanced < 1375553478 161109 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the original one stopped being maintained a billion years ago I think < 1375553478 479652 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't quite understand why this wifi is completely terrible when trying to web-browse, but the SSH works fine. < 1375553481 390638 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :p.s. I haven't played in years < 1375553485 350581 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :p.s. I can barely play it < 1375553497 176186 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there's some transparent proxy at work. < 1375553505 561258 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I last played before finding out that it's called advanced nowadays < 1375553537 990738 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pretty weird game < 1375553643 721492 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I quit "Yog-Sothoth" permanently because of the very buggy system and that they won't even take any of my suggestions seriously (for additional societies, commands, gods, etc) you can't even AFK while sleeping and there is no permadeath. (One person did take my suggestions seriously but they aren't an administrator so they can't do anything) < 1375553689 695577 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: This "Yog-Sothoth" was a different th[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~ing, though. < 1375553703 761667 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a different th[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~ing < 1375553721 330553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to scroll around at the same time. < 1375553723 682960 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :a different th?6~?6~?6~?6~?6~ing < 1375553738 340941 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what. Browsing doesn't work on 3G either, while SSH does. < 1375553739 411553 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Ah. Well, that one I cannot quit because I never used it, but yes you put escape codes in there??? You shouldn't do that? < 1375553747 803061 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the Chrome has broken somehow. < 1375553750 776625 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It wasn't on purpose. < 1375553758 862431 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think yog sothoth engenders escape characters < 1375553779 92542 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(O, and they never told me the proper character encoding either) < 1375553807 844628 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I closed all tabs and now it works. Bizarre. < 1375553864 661954 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know a game "Solter Solitaire"? This is a card game with forty cards, that at first I programmed it in TI-92 calculator, and then I made it in other systems as well and also with the actual cards. Now I am making it in Z-machine, one reason for this is so that I can make sure the "Frolg" assembler is OK. < 1375553880 459334 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375553921 890957 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1375553938 69674 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know that game. < 1375554005 157813 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rules are you have cards four of each 0 to 9 (suits are irrelevant). Deal into four rows. You can move the end card of a row to another row, to the free pile, or to the single foundation. < 1375554070 482366 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foundation go up 0 to 9 wrapping and starting at whatever number you want. When moving to another row, you cannot move to empty rows, and must move to the number one up or one down (no wrapping) (for example, 5 goes on 6 or 4, 9 goes on 8). You can move to free pile regardless of sequence as long as you don't put more than four cards there in total. < 1375554082 152012 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cards from free pile can go only in foundation. < 1375554156 712402 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every card moved to foundation is worth 1 point, emptying a row is worth 2 points, and completing the game is worth an additional 2 points. < 1375554266 114672 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you like mechwarrior < 1375554273 432651 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you like card collection games < 1375554295 502478 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: That isn't something I am familiar with. < 1375554490 103249 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you can get this game you might like. https://www.thegamecrafter.com/designers/giant-robots < 1375554528 779505 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375555481 892467 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1375555980 456705 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375557150 323419 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375557607 269556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1375558069 432193 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1375558528 464066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :A different th[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~ing | 22nd IOCCC is open: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | jsvine is doing an esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q/viewform | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1375558558 933503 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^[[A^[[A^[[B^[[B^[[D^[[C^[[D^[[C < 1375558767 991244 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My ^[[C key is broken. :-( < 1375558828 762042 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should replace the keyboard then. < 1375558856 531784 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is that topic supposed to contain actual control characters? < 1375558871 32268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because it doesn't seem to do so here) < 1375558880 952214 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also doesn't seem to have here either. < 1375558889 762128 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't < 1375558903 171641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The first Michell/Kingsbury fluid bearing in the USA was installed in the Holtwood Hydroelectric Power Plant... in 1912. The 2.25-tonne bearing supports a water turbine and electric generator with a rotating mass of about 165 tonnes and water turbine pressure adding another 40 tonnes. < 1375558908 272420 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bearing has been in nearly continuous service since 1912, with no parts replaced... As of 2002, the manufacturer estimated the bearings at Holtwood should have a maintenance-free life of about 1,300 years." < 1375558937 771663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect kmc just copied what his terminal showed for what fizzie said. < 1375558942 22290 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375558969 181807 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fizzie's original had some \e characters but none of the others do) < 1375558992 582672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can the topic even contain control characters? < 1375559013 802503 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Try. < 1375559034 842134 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : zzo38: This "Yog-Sothoth" was a different thESC[6~ESC[6~ESC[6~ESC[6~ESC[6~ing, though. < 1375559404 43688 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC is wildly apathetic about what goes in messages, so long as there aren't any null bytes. < 1375559408 792990 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Today's Irregular Webcomic annoys me because Cartesian coordinates are already named for Descartes I think <-- yeah me too < 1375559437 323453 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Carriage return and line feeds aren't allowed either. Also, bells aren't allowed in channel names. < 1375559468 294229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: freenode censors some characters, however < 1375559513 802962 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I don't imagine people would take kindly to any use of BEL. < 1375559584 883992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +[.+] < 1375559585 83871 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : . . !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ ... < 1375559649 473351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++[.+] < 1375559649 712348 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : . . !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ ... < 1375559658 364023 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like the cries of a dying deer in the forest. < 1375561732 259098 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Stop with the CTCPs. < 1375561732 669192 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: can you link me with your anti-bush fnord blasphemy. < 1375561887 948984 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot makes a good point < 1375561888 227833 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i read your " implementing doom" as " ex" troglodyte. or < 1375561899 428342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: or what? < 1375561899 707684 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so am i. luckily i already knew that... but i had to change and update the web < 1375561918 485418 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you're a troglodyte? < 1375561919 52178 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: spróbuj mówiæ po polsku < 1375561944 932664 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A web-updating troglodyte. < 1375561993 254101 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: jesteś troglodyta? < 1375561993 618468 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: oh yea, no-brainer, if the implementation adheres to r5rs, they aren't! < 1375562073 858736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION smells latin-2 < 1375562094 444668 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think you forgot the word "like" there hth < 1375562103 738596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hth < 1375562107 841486 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hth < 1375562131 608549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: æ isn't a polish letter < 1375562202 926008 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is ć? < 1375562256 129069 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expect so < 1375562280 899749 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is p < 1375562296 878885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is the fifth letter of the Polish, Sorbian, and Gaj's Latin alphabet of Serbo-Croatian (Standard Croatian, Standard Bosnian, and, when written the Latin script, Standard Serbian and Standard Montenegrin).[1] It is fourth in the Belarusian Łacinka alphabet." < 1375562323 200648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ooh tricky < 1375562519 340447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mówić is the infinitive of an imperfective verb meaning "say, tell, speak, talk" < 1375562592 359719 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1375562596 559617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :spróbuj means "try", imperative singular < 1375562728 852739 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmp: the people_presence dragging works just fine in desktop-Chrome's "emulate touch events" mode. < 1375562729 759932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, arabic has no letter p fwiw < 1375562737 619694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ^ < 1375562750 569454 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1375562761 622320 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1375563646 260538 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375564160 542790 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah the writing in this fanfic is horrific, but it has good reviews that sort of give the bad writing a pass < 1375564168 982586 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1375564192 542702 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's interesting if I can ignore the stilted dialog < 1375564202 392463 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What fanfic is that? What kind of writing do they make in it (example)? < 1375564217 563786 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Just by being in authority, you get to question me anytime you want. If on any occasion, I am wrong then there are huge penalties to pay. Yet, if you are wrong, then there are absolutely no consequences." < 1375564233 603554 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Harry's Game, a fanfic of Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality, itself a fanfic < 1375564245 383217 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that so bad? < 1375564285 372992 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes me want to gorge my eyes out, but only because of the mannerisms, not the content < 1375564295 573094 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :McGonagall's wrinkles ceased compressing further. Harry knew that he had succeeded in convincing her. < 1375564298 493166 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Harry Potter and the Physical Impossibility of Death in the Mind of Someone Living < 1375564390 203404 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <+kmc> Harry Potter and the Physical Impossibility of Death in the Mind of Someone Living < 1375564396 433953 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1082) <+kmc> Harry Potter and the Physical Impossibility of Death in the Mind of Someone Living < 1375564417 33497 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the quote file supposed to have a plus sign before their name? < 1375564432 949138 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has voice! < 1375564456 371364 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But is the quote file supposed to have plus sign if they have voice? < 1375564471 183428 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can if you want < 1375564478 613086 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I want to talk about how much work is going to suck, but shouldn't do it publically < 1375564500 103375 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you feel like you want to? < 1375564503 736088 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure about that < 1375564519 994127 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you just think you feel you want to < 1375564540 4240 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you're pretending to think you feel you want to but really you dread the idea < 1375564543 958388 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Assembly link of the day: http://sprunge.us/QIAA < 1375564572 64076 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: (From a long long blog post that -- as far as I can tell -- doesn't have linkable anchors for sections. Original source: http://randomascii.wordpress.com/2013/07/16/floating-point-determinism/ ) < 1375564589 523796 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, assembly, not Assembly < 1375564607 823680 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Right. < 1375564616 413384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote '\+kmc' < 1375564617 883903 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375564621 84126 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I have an Assembly link of the day? < 1375564621 284475 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote '+kmc' < 1375564622 824625 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375564624 83386 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote +kmc < 1375564625 473971 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: nothing to repeat < 1375564627 824101 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote \+kmc < 1375564629 367091 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1052) <+kmc> we are amused <+kmc> the royal +v \ 1082) <+kmc> Harry Potter and the Physical Impossibility of Death in the Mind of Someone Living < 1375564640 693742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right when it's not `run then it's a single argument < 1375564647 314423 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1375564650 36210 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise addquote would be annoying < 1375564653 603799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I think you should leave the + iff it's part of the joke, as in 1052 < 1375564657 863478 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't care < 1375564661 154039 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the reviews: "This story is amazing. Even though you are not as good a writer as Eliezer Yudkowsky, especially when it comes to writing other people's characters, you have done what I would have believed impossible: you have shown an interesting Quidditch game, which I previously thought was an oxymoron." < 1375564674 923639 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think kmc's + taints everything he says < 1375564677 753113 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Uh... I'd link to some entry I liked, but I don't think they've made to scene.org yet. < 1375564682 513608 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is integral to the experience of his lines in my mind < 1375564688 875102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is my taint bit < 1375564696 105445 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite possibly a joke completely unrelated to voice is only made funny by its presence < 1375564713 114819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt perl -T < 1375564714 482071 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Except for the gamedev entries. Well, uh... there's an "Assembly simulator" there, you can use it to pretend-visit. (Except it seemed kind of terrible.) < 1375564715 741576 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Even though you are not as good a writer as Eliezer Yudkowsky" rare phrases < 1375564737 584086 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you saying Eliezer is a bad writer? < 1375564738 143868 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: why are you reading this < 1375564740 383785 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsafe { fuck tha police } < 1375564752 883774 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of that review and because it was mentioned in a Reddit thread < 1375564754 834489 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc..... use protection.......... < 1375564761 623617 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION → lunch < 1375564815 14254 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: why are you reading that review. why are you reading reddit. < 1375564846 384298 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Eli honestly is a pretty bad writer. < 1375564869 804424 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O? HPMOR is awesome, how is it badly written? < 1375564872 108959 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even pikhq can't defend it < 1375564921 765077 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dude, the main character in HPMOR is practically a Mary Sue. < 1375564928 806132 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better than the typical Mary Sue, but still. < 1375564976 654011 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's a Mary Sue except when he fails hard < 1375565015 254327 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having a Mary Sue get hoisted by his own petard does not a good character make. < 1375565365 955282 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adults eat Lucky Charms and Macarroni and Cheese, right? < 1375565367 375226 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1375565399 35010 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ok, so googling reveals that GM has an ad campaign directed to nostalgic adults but adults were eating them anyway) < 1375565410 485231 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... I don't have Lucky Charm related nostaligia at all < 1375565416 265738 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just like marshmallows < 1375565504 735127 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of maccaroni are we talking here < 1375565545 404595 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is lucky charm a brand of marshmallows? < 1375565578 485242 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cereal marshmallows < 1375565579 185977 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it's a brand of cereal that has marshmallows in it < 1375565589 796318 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idg how people like cereal marshmallows or sugary cereals or < 1375565602 550792 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ah, I don't think adults are supposed to eat that < 1375565610 426021 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gawker.com/5964591/as-if-adults-havent-been-eating-lucky-charms-this-whole-time < 1375565619 195792 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry for Gawker link < 1375565674 946029 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: do you know about kan extensions and kan lifts < 1375565683 329723 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no < 1375565686 496315 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1375565693 52851 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never got around to learning that stuff < 1375565706 426300 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixing this involves *nested* CPR analysis, which I am working on at the moment. < 1375565715 787042 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoorayspj < 1375565718 305770 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck < 1375565720 52139 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote kha+n extension < 1375565721 496162 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375565732 567324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN < 1375565734 125867 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was an spj quote btw, not me < 1375565753 438939 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote kaa+n extension < 1375565755 16349 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375565759 918734 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i figured < 1375565767 927404 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.giantitp.com/comics/erf0015.html < 1375565781 65405 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: imo learn kan extensions < 1375565787 475773 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they cool < 1375565793 526036 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they probably are huh < 1375565796 875950 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :daaaang < 1375565893 775948 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :daang < 1375566117 609928 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's CPR analysis? < 1375566200 487229 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Analysing the best way to keep a dead person's blood flowing so their brain can continue to receive oxygen until professional help can arrive < 1375566270 507139 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Excess Flood < 1375566295 607545 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where cpr < 1375566295 807204 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/simonpj/Papers/cpr/index.htm < 1375566308 797666 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O Adam Lee (who is made of pure awesome) likes xkcd < 1375566308 997324 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375566398 167609 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whos that < 1375566403 196839 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why < 1375566410 167376 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why do you care < 1375566413 147622 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and should i care < 1375566416 157163 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why < 1375566448 357485 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: should've started with the fourth question < 1375566458 89422 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1375566524 987560 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: are you ``made of pure awesome''? < 1375566529 747883 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1375566542 869070 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adam Lee is this guy http://ebonmusings.org/atheism < 1375566576 737523 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/atheism < 1375566579 528355 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think i want to click < 1375566594 218123 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo good choice < 1375566690 657935 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: but don't you like ironclad logic < 1375566778 137742 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::☺) < 1375566857 858362 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/essays/all-possible-worlds/#part2 < 1375566980 508409 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if god is real why are there atheists < 1375567064 958738 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know "ignostic"? < 1375567073 98641 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that answer the question for you with another question? < 1375567516 402182 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375568308 126208 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre < 1375568673 541842 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :1382934587194025722583321808878440049785645138984926013 < 1375569088 92720 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the famous dilemma is this: if god is omnibenevolent, why did he subject us to shachaf? < 1375569129 162666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if god is omnomnevolent, why am i hungry < 1375569154 142719 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What makes you think you know everything about God and omnibenevolence? < 1375569220 198720 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i be zzo38ist < 1375569229 723004 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you should start a cult < 1375569239 123484 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That depends. Is "zzo38ist" a word? < 1375569256 303244 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure. < 1375569289 943465 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to start a cult. A proper religion should not be a "cult", but I can certainly write my opinions about religious stuff, and you are free to take it for what you want. < 1375569350 746294 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 is too lenient about what others think to be a cult leader < 1375569454 723547 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many religious texts, with contain some good things, but you should not take them on blind faith, whether I told you to or not. < 1375570695 806915 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should we take on blind faith that we shouldn't take religious texts on blind faith even if you tell us? < 1375570737 826909 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is for you to figure out. < 1375571032 937134 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1375571034 497651 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1375571273 333663 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi sim < 1375571322 49407 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Sgeo could you explain `slist for a friend of mine? i don't think i'd be able to do it justice < 1375571352 808045 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a list of people who want to be notified when Homestuck updates. < 1375571374 68337 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a Homestuck fan notices an update, they can ping the other Homestuck fans that way < 1375571395 258088 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, several of the people are the same people and I think one doesn't even exist < 1375571667 338604 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes < 1375571667 576146 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, jconn ) , blsqbot ! < 1375572225 422830 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375572450 301792 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :93% of ASCII is still not mapped to any bot < 1375572515 942384 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric : (aka ^C) - the best prefix. < 1375572519 650854 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It isn't necessary for all of them to have a single ASCII character prefix really; some may accept commands only in private, some may require their name and a colon and space to send a command in public, some may not accept commands at all, etc. < 1375572630 458213 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, good point < 1375572737 431018 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And in a few cases it does not necessarily have to be unique.) < 1375573077 501753 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375573717 363279 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1375573840 335257 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1375573939 433678 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375573939 633804 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1375573939 633949 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375574200 395025 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375575250 207866 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375575250 444267 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1375575250 444427 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375575296 118635 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375575317 329861 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375575326 108418 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 NICK :nooodl < 1375575734 437491 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375579307 72170 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375579449 897791 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375579612 17448 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1375580630 708644 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375580921 438207 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375580965 958755 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I run Java 6 safely? < 1375581200 838775 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :douse your computer in formaldehyde and intone SAG BA, SAG BA < 1375581562 859638 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1375581617 732419 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wear a condom < 1375581653 169879 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375581872 420096 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have any binaries of Infocom's Z-machine interpreters for version 5 games (Beyond Zork, Zork I SG, and some others)? < 1375581894 832849 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375581915 350582 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375581920 281101 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 NICK :Guest58302 < 1375581949 420141 :scorpo!46bc039e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.188.3.158 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375581987 370945 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome scorpo < 1375581989 900916 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08scorpo: Welc14ome to 03the i04nternation06al h02ub for e11s14ot05eric07 programmi03ng la13n08gua14ge design and deployment!02 For mor14e inf04ormati03on, 03chec06k out our wi10ki:05 http://esolang03s.org/04wiki/Ma07in_Page. 10(For the other ki08nd of esoterica, try 06#es11oteric on 06irc12.dal.net.) < 1375582007 980458 :scorpo!46bc039e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.188.3.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello there < 1375583696 884765 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375583935 764509 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375584218 587141 :Guest58302!~CADD@12.227.104.109 NICK :CADD < 1375584729 347230 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found the interpreter. < 1375584759 306734 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already have the source-codes for the interpreters, so I know that there is a "/g" command-line option to override the name of the story file. < 1375585132 568463 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have found out that it does not work if you put a space after "/g"; you have to put it directly after without the space, as in "bzork /gstory.z5" < 1375585308 476352 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375586024 260183 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's just like GCC. < 1375586317 205522 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, is that how it works? < 1375586635 63505 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375587945 824908 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375588274 700173 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375589893 817011 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a list of made up Nethack conduct in ifMUD. Here is some: * No diagonal moves. * Never killed non-uniques. * You never examined your inventory. * You only fought by throwing food. * No destruction of boulders, walls, and statues. * Never pick up precious metals/gems items. * Never drop or throw any item. * Never kill more than one of any kind of creature. < 1375589948 917552 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or there is one "Shakespeare challenge": Kill monsters only in the order to make up the text of Hamlet (case-insensitive; non-letters ignored). < 1375589974 88079 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone done that < 1375589984 429842 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1375590007 259296 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1375590028 51848 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a monster for every letter? < 1375590039 409326 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Nethack, I think there is. < 1375590440 598817 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1375590445 528783 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I" has none < 1375590474 38424 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are lower case "i"s, though < 1375590475 98804 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need every case, tho < 1375590487 808179 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I" is pretty common in written texts, it turns out < 1375590493 948179 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have said case-insensitive for these reason. < 1375590509 630620 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there's a problem: your first kill needs to be a w. good luck < 1375590532 268632 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's w? < 1375590560 418778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :worm < 1375590571 290720 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :capital w is wraith < 1375590575 688110 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1375590586 588398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :purple worm is also p. ouch imo < 1375590595 615663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, you can win without killing a single monster. < 1375590601 579183 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm sure this is doable. < 1375590634 629523 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you win if your companions also never kill anyone? (This also means you have to somehow stop them without killing them) < 1375590635 472688 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're allowing pets, etc. then sure < 1375590665 449100 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: possibly, theoretically. in practice not a chance < 1375590671 680964 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(then again, prove me wrong) < 1375590688 479864 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you have to kill rodney or something < 1375590691 699116 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or if, you and your companions never kill any non-uniques; killing uniques is considered OK. Is this easier? < 1375590704 11669 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no < 1375590705 272429 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :extinction is a huge problem < 1375590720 372491 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you can polyself into a nymph and steal < 1375590720 650368 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1375590721 634723 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you can get items you need by stealing them e.g. as a succubus < 1375590726 834245 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :succubus is cooler < 1375590749 19831 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've only ever gotten up to like dlevel 14 V_V < 1375590770 749236 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in AceHack I once stole the Candelabrum from Vlad as a succubus and then beat him to death with it, that was pretty good < 1375590780 529110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw NetHack is bad & don't play it < 1375590780 733446 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well thats better than me, ive never played nethack < 1375590791 668426 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you think a candelabrum is overkill for vlad < 1375590793 728765 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the #1 way to get monsters of a specific kind doesn't work if they're extinct, so you will find trying to kill millions of monsters in a specific order to be rather painful < 1375590797 199147 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe try a pillow < 1375590798 619749 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i don't play you, elliott < 1375590799 568909 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah that's almost a real weapon < 1375590814 921359 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well, I had like 30 HP. < 1375590819 732179 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to the succubus selfpoly. < 1375590828 979360 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to cast healing like twenty times to not die to him. < 1375590849 459209 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: don't you just die as a succubus and revert to full health? < 1375590861 320116 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my favourite vladbane is a wand of wishing < 1375590863 639661 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the fun in that? < 1375590883 569910 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use it to access just about any weapon, spell, or even combination of them that you could possibly want < 1375590895 178848 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so logically the correct way to employ this tool is to whack vlad with it < 1375590906 29224 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Is it possible if you modify the game so there is no extinction (and instead makes it like ADOM where newly generated creature of the same kind has more levels, but your experience points are the same either way)? < 1375590912 772675 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: of course < 1375590920 462108 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if wishing is silver? < 1375590921 777588 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you could even modify the game so that you were playing chessrogue instead < 1375590927 138274 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, does silver even do anything to vampires? < 1375590938 270974 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if wishing is wood and you whack Vlad's heart with it? < 1375590949 680716 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: if silver, it's complete overkill < 1375590977 615969 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how do you peeps like < 1375590980 971536 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :play this stuff < 1375590990 522595 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ms-dos < 1375590992 485131 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't < 1375590998 4275 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :playing NH isn't fun < 1375591005 780074 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You should play NetHack even though it's kind of awful. < 1375591011 969966 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Yes, I suppose you could, but then you should play chessrogue instead. I mean variants of Nethack. < 1375591018 169175 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like how do you get to the point of actually succeeding. < 1375591019 178831 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you do is stop playing and then reminisce about it instead, which ismuch more enjoyable < 1375591026 573399 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dwarf fortress? another game i have never played.. < 1375591027 963567 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well it's easy < 1375591032 403296 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just really dumb. < 1375591041 853515 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I strongly recommend NH4 instead < 1375591050 344420 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do plutonium wands give you radiation poisoning in this game? < 1375591051 550182 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then report bugs and stuff < 1375591053 595260 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have like two hundred dead scores before level 15, elliott < 1375591059 799761 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's much more about memorising tricks than any kind of strategic or tactical skill < 1375591067 533082 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i was afraid of that. < 1375591076 128121 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are other roguesss better about that < 1375591085 129498 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :all computer games are bad < 1375591089 790857 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: this < 1375591094 19677 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh oh. < 1375591095 241100 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the only other one i've played is, uh, i think Chocobo's Dungeon < 1375591095 527611 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: not really < 1375591096 963646 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, there are a few good ones. < 1375591098 889921 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I retract that. < 1375591103 360690 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes, quite significantly; I recommend brogue < 1375591112 79379 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :robotfindskitten: not bad < 1375591116 20465 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i mean was fun, but also chocobo. < 1375591117 618204 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: although nethack is particularly bad < 1375591119 749416 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: couldnt agree more. < 1375591121 149275 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sil is also good though I haven't played it as much as I should and crawl is also okay and very popular though imperfect and getting worse < 1375591145 325636 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: part of the problem is that it has now been two decades since the last nethack release < 1375591149 292412 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the game is solved through and through < 1375591162 562600 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ok i know how creepy nethack people are, e.g. the above conversation < 1375591182 709936 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: but brogue is pretty good in that it is both accessible and also balanced enough to be interesting. < 1375591189 381523 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :NH4 is the most mature project to fix that but it's very far off < 1375591198 315604 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also games don't take five years < 1375591198 729431 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: come play with my +69 staff of penetration.. < 1375591205 443340 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i greatly enjoy a large number of computer games. can they be bad and enjoyable also? < 1375591210 858922 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'll look at brogue i guess. < 1375591213 718180 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :SIMULTANEOUSLY? < 1375591223 41419 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god knows something less pointless than nethack would be nice to play < 1375591232 203888 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on my shitty-ass computer that can't handle textmode games < 1375591237 340419 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: dwarf fortress? < 1375591247 201239 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really text mode < 1375591254 50375 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was? < 1375591254 907704 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the biggest flaw in NH design is that it both assumes you have no spoilers in a lot of places while also making spoilers /nearly/ mandatory elsewhere < 1375591255 903140 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i'd just like, kill everybody. < 1375591261 229724 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, im not a gamer so idk.. < 1375591261 654139 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it uses opengl or something actually < 1375591269 419754 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly not a terminal in any case < 1375591274 631203 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can run dwarf fortress in a terminal! < 1375591280 257825 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :unspoiled ascensions have been heard of, but I wouldn't want to do on < 1375591281 520796 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*one < 1375591281 731060 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow really < 1375591282 866039 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think its text based, but then they added sprite packs to make it easier to play < 1375591283 281637 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though there's usually not much point < 1375591285 439547 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you try any of the computer games I made? Some may be good (others may be not as good as the others). < 1375591286 143313 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it like so- right. < 1375591292 450705 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean it's exactly the same. < 1375591299 348011 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why would you bother, usually < 1375591301 581412 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: id like too see < 1375591318 594136 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other obstacle to DF is that i have no idea how to get anywhere near starting < 1375591325 312786 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: lol, i was actually taking a look at your page on esoteric.org. wow you wrote alot of languages < 1375591331 332785 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the DF wiki has a nice guide < 1375591332 308388 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think last time i tried playing it stayed in worldgen for like three hours < 1375591333 781335 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: and a lot of them are very interesting < 1375591337 530276 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i got bored < 1375591338 207015 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really a roguelike though... < 1375591343 779608 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i know. < 1375591347 653209 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it has a roguelike (adventure mode) but it's no fun to play < 1375591350 374993 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more of a killdorfslike, i'm given to understand < 1375591358 292635 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: Yes, you can write also a comment on there, and/or other comment on here, whatever < 1375591360 907666 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though everyone should see its combat menus at least once < 1375591376 610170 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kind of like just reading about df which is a problem < 1375591389 267796 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the stories about dorfs carving pictures of burning elephants all over everything < 1375591389 830370 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: If you want to try my game, what kind of computer/operating-systems do you have or can emulator? < 1375591394 350153 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very "postmodernist" < 1375591415 13311 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: linux < 1375591418 800485 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Which game? < 1375591424 458178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it Potion of Confusing? < 1375591453 761317 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: Do you have any programs to emulate any other kinds of computers/operating systems? < 1375591457 882325 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hmm, i just took a look again. i was most enamoured by twoducks and 2d-reverse. < 1375591460 939270 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah vbox < 1375591505 172904 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i kind of have a thing for multi-D langs. < 1375591531 495098 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: but twoducks is just super cool < 1375591659 381464 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: You can try http://zzo38computer.org/GAMES/cgacoll2.zip, cgacoll1.zip, cgacoll.zip, and 100level.zip, which are DOS; xnazzyball.zip, which is Windows; /zmachine/examples/solter.zip, which is Z-machine (an interpreter is at /zmachine/aimfiz.zip and should run on any computer with SDL); and /mzx1/potionconf/potion_of_confusing.zip which is a MegaZeux file. < 1375591692 583107 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: great, thanks! < 1375591763 261703 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depending on the Linux distribution, you may find MegaZeux in its package manager. You may also find a Z-machine interpreter, although most of them are buggy so try Aimfiz instead which I believe is far more accurate than other Z-machine interpreters (even Infocom's interpreters have bugs in them). < 1375591804 345801 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :k, installing megazeux < 1375591909 351610 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also try /nes_program/hangman.zip for Famicom Hangman (you will need a NES/Famicom emulator); it is incomplete and not particularly good although it does have a time limit and a few other things. < 1375591935 41368 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool cool < 1375591981 137793 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :After installing MegaZeux, depending on the package, you might get a screen that says "Software Visions". If you do, you will need to push F3 and select the "Potion of Confusing" world file instead. < 1375592075 898727 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, kk < 1375592105 201409 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You might not get that screen, though, depending on the package.) < 1375592219 764688 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, seems like all the packages are stale < 1375592265 967777 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: That might be OK; the game might still work. < 1375592354 603278 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. seems not.. hmm < 1375592369 994505 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375592422 358424 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you get an error message about the version? If not, then there is a different problem. You can ignore it for now and try a different game, if you prefer. (You can also try not using the package manager, and instead downloading MegaZeux from somewhere else.) < 1375592428 8660 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you think dosbox would do the trick? < 1375592440 503944 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no, there is a compilation error < 1375592447 155994 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: For running DOS programs, DOSBox would probably work. < 1375592456 604434 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah, im getting a copy off the internet < 1375593147 164642 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375593208 2125 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which of these games are working for you now? < 1375593580 894205 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375593793 933148 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please tell me if you tried the other games. < 1375593902 726723 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: your D&D game should have monsters called ghostly sentinels < 1375593906 952541 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://llvm.org/docs/ProgrammersManual.html#dss-ilist-sentinel < 1375593929 337141 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Well, it doesn't, but thanks for telling me anyways. < 1375593948 46391 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My D&D game contains what I have recorded. < 1375593998 836649 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :observation: playing intense piano actually causes the heat generation in my wrists to become noticeable to the touch < 1375594015 898654 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1375594039 346221 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: What music did you play? < 1375594053 189826 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it electric or acoustic piano? < 1375594060 739472 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the invincibility music from mario at full speed, the right hand specifically < 1375594080 642444 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you play blindfolded with a thick blanket over the keys and your hands upsidedown? < 1375594083 835483 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :a digital piano, which has keys weighted to feel like an acoustic < 1375594084 545584 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1375594092 141404 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds hard < 1375594099 233494 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also not very quality < 1375594128 392006 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't do that either, but apparently some people can. < 1375594176 13715 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :after doing this for a bit, which is really a literal muscle exercise rather than teaching any particular skills, my right wrist was noticeably warmer than my left < 1375594189 985712 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you play the piano with both hands? < 1375594206 505845 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I was only doing the right < 1375594211 385840 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the left hand is boring anyway) < 1375594234 126518 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's why it is more noticeably warmer than your left. < 1375594277 74891 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, of course. I know why. I was just surprised as to the fact that it was noticeable < 1375594476 570116 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you play the music with the book or just by your mind? I always use the book or paper, even the music I write by myself, I will write it on a paper. < 1375594497 823631 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375594498 61015 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know some things about music theory? < 1375594515 71634 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :book and yes < 1375594555 118326 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you ever make up your own music? < 1375594564 492265 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :on rare occasion < 1375594614 141006 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made up symbols for cadences rather than writing out the entire words "perfect semi-closed" and so on. < 1375594658 27615 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I showed the teacher and she liked it too, although it isn't standard (I suggested telling the Royal Conservatory, but I don't know how well such thing would work anyways). < 1375594696 766367 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't seem like a particularly useful notation < 1375594735 615801 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :a cadence is a sequence of chords, and we already have multiple notations for chords that are perfectly good at expressing cadences as well < 1375594759 322830 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perfect (also called authentic) is "P", imperfect is "P" with a slash through it, plagal is "PL", and deceptive is "D" (there is no confusion with 500 because there is no such chords as 500). Closed is a circle around, semi-closed is a half-circle, and open is the plain letter. < 1375594795 157712 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also used a slightly different notation for chords, because of the difficulty of uppercase/lowercase in hand-written notations. (The teacher liked that too.) < 1375594875 823131 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the typical way of dealing with that is very straightforward: place serifs on capital Vs < 1375594878 842772 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either the major/minor/augmented/dimished is implied, or if it is not implied, a symbol "+", "-", "x", or "o" is added to superscript. (In a major key it is usually implied.) < 1375594917 60019 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I didn't know that was the typical way. < 1375594934 450298 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually a "o" adds diminished, or a "ø" for a half-diminished (iirc) seventh < 1375594965 375603 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :augemented chords are rare enough that I don't recall the notation offhand < 1375594993 419735 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I still used the "o" for diminished. The book I used uses "x" for augmented, and I use this too. (Some people use "+" for augmented, causing confusion.) < 1375595397 919898 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375595489 599019 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you sometimes write any notations for any of these things, or only read? < 1375595777 394728 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375595801 512389 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 NICK :Guest77387 < 1375595962 951203 :Guest77387!~CADD@12.227.104.109 NICK :CADD < 1375596263 857834 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I sometimes write < 1375596461 974378 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: its 23:06 here < 1375596501 68862 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: Yes, I know now I was trying to see the connection I didn't get an auto reply for a long time < 1375596518 373107 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Complete the following steps. 1. If you are using Internet Explorer 6 or 7, upgrade to a newer version of Internet Explorer." thanks, school < 1375596532 88340 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah, i accidentally dced. < 1375596547 476492 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1375596562 507305 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: reminds me of: http://youtu.be/9mXe9nRiPHI < 1375597314 46075 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375597412 202758 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375597412 435458 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1375597412 435613 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375597965 108003 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/The_Order_of_the_Stick < 1375598376 871016 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/Haskell < 1375598380 981185 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.wi27 < 1375598382 393226 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1375598484 16126 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375598529 119253 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD.win++ < 1375598541 934942 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/topic C++ fan club < 1375598572 271444 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist Jade, Dave, and the Mayor < 1375598574 870074 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist Jade, Dave, and the Mayor: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1375599030 960801 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does.... does Pharo seriously monkey-patch nil as part of its eval mechanism? < 1375599069 340192 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :purple monkey dishwasher < 1375599071 26928 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dish watcher < 1375599900 508744 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375599979 545843 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375600003 323326 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 NICK :Guest90963 < 1375600018 540217 :Guest90963!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Client Quit < 1375600040 12581 :CADD_!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375600091 262518 :CADD_!~CADD@12.227.104.109 NICK :CADD < 1375600530 967270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1375600643 875982 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375600644 607347 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 QUIT :Changing host < 1375600644 847113 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1375601208 86516 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: I have read some stuff in Uncyclopedia before. < 1375601230 713631 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: mhm? < 1375601242 64101 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: its mildy humorous. < 1375601247 978394 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1375601273 833096 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you play chess and/or any chess variants? < 1375601290 179122 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i used to be part of chess club < 1375601301 107211 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um ive played quite a few chess variants < 1375601315 640165 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you invented any chess variants? < 1375601318 658125 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :big fan of the 3d chess, im currently undefeated in that variant. lol < 1375601320 592792 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly no < 1375601324 81181 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you? < 1375601340 478250 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have invented many. < 1375601352 404049 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1375601368 425746 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.chessvariants.org/ < 1375601372 374177 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :big fan of that site < 1375601380 501748 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im guessing you might have them on there? < 1375601399 443754 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a TeX file for writing chess diagrams and moves including many chess variants too (although it can also be used with FIDE). < 1375601403 333882 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I do have them on there. < 1375601427 643052 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat, i would love to check them out < 1375601437 96170 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: If you select "Advanced Search" from the "Games" menu, that form is also mine. < 1375601444 205816 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh cool < 1375601459 958650 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't someone here write a game that was isomorphic to chess while seeming completely different? < 1375601467 7427 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, i see your UN < 1375601475 254354 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Yes, I think I did. < 1375601490 685521 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://www.chessvariants.org/index/msdisplay.php?itemid=MSeeeeeeeeeeeeee < 1375601513 319949 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: 404 < 1375601518 903908 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1375601522 865207 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt copy it right < 1375601588 687000 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of these chess variants are partially (or entirely) made up by my brother, although most are mine. < 1375601626 752971 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.chessvariants.org/index/msdisplay.php?itemid=MSchesswithcheck is one that myself and my brother both knew the rules to before we discussed them. < 1375601684 644187 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was actually just taking a look at that one < 1375601689 973517 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that a nice and simple variant < 1375601700 765230 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rules are almost obvious, lol < 1375601724 440230 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made up 123456 Chess [MS123456chess] due to a chess/checkers/backgammon portable set I got, so I invented a game using its pieces. < 1375601784 254244 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chess with Quantum Bishops [MSchesswithquant] has an unknown inventor; I was told about it by someone else who also doesn't know the inventor. < 1375601956 845283 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made many others too. < 1375602170 734281 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: Which of my computer games are working on your computer now? I also made this http://www.chessvariants.org/index/msdisplay.php?itemid=MLgiveawaychessp < 1375602200 432752 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: lol, i got totally distracted by my lisp interpreter im writing. < 1375602215 878450 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: can you say vau? < 1375602243 539084 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://klisp.org/ < 1375602247 83936 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: based on that < 1375602250 379527 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, you are writing a Lisp interpreter? In what programming language? Will you post it afterward? < 1375602260 827522 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is 'vau'? < 1375602261 673755 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yup, in haskell. sure. < 1375602266 230413 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1375602271 667242 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://web.cs.wpi.edu/%7Ejshutt/kernel.html < 1375602276 185580 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should explain it < 1375602287 114743 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i <3 fexprs < 1375602299 166822 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, I can see $vau in the example. < 1375602315 162651 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm. its very cool < 1375602326 349317 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what he did was break up lambda into two funtions < 1375602329 3376 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vau and wrap < 1375602344 350009 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vau is kind of like a macro, it takes its arguments unevaluates < 1375602351 264847 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then wrap evaluates it < 1375602364 364030 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can implement lambda in terms of vau < 1375602496 556487 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fexpr fan club < 1375602498 67503 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1375602520 466292 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 < 1375602522 420778 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1375602556 621905 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: have you checked out wat.js? < 1375602566 545306 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1375602576 103458 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that have to do with fexprs though < 1375602596 857543 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat uses fexprs < 1375602605 425969 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/manuel/wat-js < 1375602607 457906 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the lazy < 1375602644 259089 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1375602649 309754 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was a pretty lulzy implementation of a klisp-ish language < 1375603495 864062 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I have discovered a fact about a tv episode not on imdb < 1375603500 135050 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like a victory has occurred < 1375603645 897753 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1375604554 256684 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1375604577 394205 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375604577 652800 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1375604577 652946 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375605202 39135 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375605432 387492 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1375606250 998142 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: wait http://mainisusuallyafunction.blogspot.com/ is your blog? < 1375606254 764213 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i love your blog! < 1375606274 708648 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheeky name too! < 1375606468 505276 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: (sorry, did a bit of internet stalking. lol) < 1375606795 140519 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375607066 410921 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that's me < 1375607070 388728 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :glad you like it < 1375607115 34015 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1375607736 896690 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375607991 407250 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1375607998 435685 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375608064 344214 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375608412 837495 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375608682 86039 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375609453 719693 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1375609953 933047 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375612586 157900 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375613329 313833 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375613453 788501 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1375613470 909560 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375613914 241509 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1375617813 138619 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love how forth lets you write begin/while/until/else/then and begin/while/while/repeat/then loops (and unlimited other combinations of those control words) < 1375617852 440520 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1375617940 472458 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :after reading http://www.taygeta.com/forth/dpansa3.htm#A.3.2.3.2 I almost understand how it works too < 1375618054 381754 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.sigfpe.com/2008/11/from-monoids-to-monads.html < 1375618275 176396 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :this explains < 1375618389 737522 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :> It'd be cool if this was a product in the usual categorical sense, but it isn't. < 1375618390 587947 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:14: parse error on input `if' < 1375618900 237538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1375619100 870570 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you replace product in the definition of monoid with 'very weak thing that's apparently sort of a of product' < 1375619135 398331 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is more BS than when the introduced imaginary numbers < 1375619885 345691 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: if you like forth, you will probably love factor < 1375619899 525668 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: <3 dataflow combinators <3 < 1375620038 253659 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric : S_J: turing completeness relies on general recursion, which cannot be proven to halt (see: halting problem) < 1375620041 621000 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a canned response right? < 1375620047 100249 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :like he has a command that types it out for him < 1375620077 913717 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no effective method that can determine whether any IRC message is canned. < 1375620106 444121 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :see: Turing Test < 1375620196 827676 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 people in #haskell helped me with how does monad relate to monoid but everyone jumps in to help with 'y cant agda turing machine' < 1375620351 898204 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :this suggests that one of those questions is harder to answer than the other one, hth < 1375622270 910796 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375622579 530134 :Guest15597!~sacre@50-81-222-220.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375622858 388879 :Guest15597!~sacre@50-81-222-220.client.mchsi.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375623083 941829 :Guest15597!~sacre@50-81-222-220.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375624093 206986 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1375625198 652903 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375625361 406453 :BlueShark!BlueShark@unaffiliated/blueshark JOIN :#esoteric < 1375626158 501153 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1375627092 209987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix$(<$>)<$>(:)<*>((<$>((:[{- thor's mother -}])<$>))(=<<)<$>(*)<$>(*2))$1 < 1375627093 323485 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048,4096,8192,16384,32768,65536,131072,... < 1375627167 30469 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375627451 175617 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1375627758 996078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigfpe's blog still gives me a virus warning, i see < 1375627972 250287 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: gotta love windows.. :) < 1375628047 472504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well surely he shouldn't be having viruses on his website hth < 1375628071 423753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no idea whether the warning is true or not) < 1375628133 853115 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1375628192 8634 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah most anti-viri are very on the false-positive side < 1375628192 987107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's been there for years < 1375628198 14971 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a good reason < 1375628203 770012 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, idk < 1375628213 351616 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its probably not his site, just your anti-virus < 1375628227 986616 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sice i love that blog, and i dont think ive ever gotten anything from it < 1375628274 466456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i changed to a new computer recently, although i guess windows defender might descend from mse enough to have the same false hits < 1375628305 628163 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. yeah as a linux user i usually use preventative measures like noscript and et. al. < 1375628322 608669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't recall whether i got a virus warning with avg back when i was using that. < 1375628376 459124 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, i remember avg serving me well when i used to run windows < 1375628404 664405 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, i need to go to more sec cons, so i can get more free kaperski licenses.. :) < 1375628425 36944 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375628977 784253 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix$(<$>)<$>(:)<*>((<$>((:[{- Jörð -}])<$>))(=<<)<$>(*)<$>(>>=)(+)($))$1 -- updated version, oerjan < 1375628979 231985 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048,4096,8192,16384,32768,65536,131072,... < 1375629019 319074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do recall we discussed who was thor's mother last that came up < 1375629255 8157 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the difference is Jörð and (>>=)(+)($) instead of (*2) < 1375630097 561489 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm tup seems broken with distcc: < 1375630098 414766 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :distcc[6466] (dcc_get_top_dir) Warning: HOME is not set; can't find distcc directory < 1375630104 906520 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Annoying < 1375630210 986284 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :'export HOME' in your tupfile IIRC, I don't know if you can set it globally < 1375630231 419664 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I'm bootstrapping tup on my rpi so this is superannoying < 1375630262 315226 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :find -name Tupfile -exec sed -i '1i export Home' \; or whatever < 1375630338 409078 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes with the {} added < 1375630341 480768 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm nope < 1375630348 286726 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not working < 1375630364 572938 :augur!~augur@71.57.182.133 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375630383 637576 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, dunno < 1375630400 230339 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375630412 503597 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length<$>(groupBy(/=).fix)show < 1375630416 378314 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1375630421 303853 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> take 20 $ length<$>(groupBy(/=).fix)show < 1375630422 717968 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048,4096,8192,16384,32768,65536,131072,26... < 1375630966 867033 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, google is really not helpful at all :/ < 1375630986 845989 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Read the tup manpage, it's all there < 1375630998 364137 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, why did I check google first < 1375631021 363866 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And post on tup-users if there's no way to configure it globally < 1375631028 136040 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1375631069 652595 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I suspect HOME has to be set to something on the fuse file system or such maybe < 1375631078 153570 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since that didn't work < 1375631105 224716 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well if it still said "HOME is not set" then it just didn't work at all < 1375631138 996067 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be able to access files outside its file system though, I think < 1375631158 589980 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did I do revert in git now again? As in revert a list of file names to a clean state for the working directory < 1375631166 195868 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :'git status' tells you < 1375631267 883747 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Laterally < 1375631333 522769 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm okay so now I get this error instead: distcc[7746] (dcc_build_somewhere) Warning: failed to distribute, running locally instead. Weird since I just checked with make in another project and that worked fine < 1375631355 490891 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably missing another environment variable but it's not telling you which one < 1375631360 969490 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite < 1375631658 133174 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does tup block sockets with some ld preload stuff or something? < 1375631684 719757 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is making no sense < 1375631687 240697 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think tup does the ld preload stuff anymore, it replaced it with the fuse system < 1375631725 257706 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I specifically get "gcc: error: whatever.c: operation not permitted" for all whatever.c as far as I can tell < 1375631767 480233 :Guest15597!~sacre@50-81-222-220.client.mchsi.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1375631769 610755 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shrug < 1375631787 429456 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1375631795 710118 :Guest15597!~sacre@50-81-222-220.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375632602 632632 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1375632616 877189 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, checking with wireshark, looks like the connection is *sometimes* made under tup, but never sends the actual file data. Sometimes no connection is even made < 1375632632 525601 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shrug < 1375632666 87693 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah I guess I can't use tup yet, I need distcc when testing on the RPi, way to slow otherwise. < 1375633157 668566 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, yeah I tried with env -i setting only HOME and PATH, that works just fine to compile a test file < 1375633161 954109 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is something else that breaks it < 1375633164 612622 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I give up < 1375633473 285426 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1375634312 349850 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375635393 324666 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember once some computer game my brother made in MegaZeux had a room with a professor who, when you talked to them, said "Hello, I didn't see you there." and then "O no! I pushed the 'D' button! That makes the room explosive!" and then the professor dies and game over. (Actually pushing the 'D' key during the game has no function.) < 1375635907 394382 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/BreenGrub < 1375635908 666406 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coooooooool < 1375636142 366764 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1375636172 181392 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How well will ARCFOUR work when you are modulo some other number (that isn't necessarily a power of two)? < 1375636194 532386 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, this is hl2, i wasn't sure < 1375636265 10873 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"prelapsarian", nice word < 1375636390 17510 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that was weird. < 1375636415 62245 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear valve might be behind it (i haven't really looked into it) < 1375636483 224188 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/MarcLaidlaw/status/334424382522941443 < 1375636492 233883 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is pretty viral-market-y, but hints at the future existence of HL3, which is obviously impossible < 1375636497 861341 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(laidlaw is the writer of hl) < 1375636523 618731 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like FreeCell, Solter Solitaire is a solitaire card game with no hidden information. < 1375636531 502681 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, eh, i'm happy with it just being a little project he did to continue his story < 1375636553 80598 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's nice < 1375636569 989374 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of MINERVA < 1375636598 232437 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"eschatological secrets beyond even my reckoning" < 1375636637 749794 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be nice if episode 3 had the minerva guy's level design < 1375636654 657780 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's valve < 1375636664 333462 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1375636665 614878 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they hired him right after he released minerva < 1375636675 679169 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1375638383 509864 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375638639 859604 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I don't want to start an epic flaming napalm screaming fight, but the short version is your position is completely retarded" < 1375638789 773535 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you answer this question? If the PC of one of your game(s) came to life and tried to kill you, how would they do it? < 1375638814 401788 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gunshot < 1375638856 159889 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in what game, specifically? < 1375638913 860070 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just one of my plot bunnies < 1375638923 711322 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoids: The Game < 1375638931 850158 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is plot bunnies? < 1375638970 900958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Is your brother similar to you? < 1375638982 656282 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Similar to me in what way? < 1375638985 689891 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a "plot bunny" is a kind of rabbit that lives in my basal ganglion and yells about urumqi. < 1375638990 23115 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375638994 254727 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And did you make a game called "Monoids: The Game"? < 1375639042 739958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't know. Never met him. < 1375639048 190316 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but maybe I should. < 1375639051 341161 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone would love it. < 1375639053 681296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be so easy. < 1375639059 232276 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I don't know the answer either. < 1375639074 591515 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't know the answer of my question. < 1375639165 801576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Well, making computer games in MegaZeux is one thing. < 1375639195 161252 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, although both of us also use other systems (and he doesn't use MegaZeux anymore, actually). < 1375639225 4694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You also make chess variants. < 1375639225 561798 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, his games usually have graphics and my games usually don't have graphics. < 1375639238 921668 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does he make esoteric languages? < 1375639269 516972 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PART :#esoteric < 1375639270 993265 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Just one, called "QWERTY Keyboard Dotty Language". < 1375639274 640803 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375639303 786485 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1375639397 944629 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The question about the PC of your games trying to kill you is from ifMUD; it is in the ifMUD library (you can walk there, or you can teleport there by typing 'library'). < 1375639419 233073 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Has he ever been in here? < 1375639430 863621 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't think so. < 1375639452 962554 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to telephone him to ask him just now, but it is busy. < 1375639585 72625 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frumble grumble nothing ever works right. < 1375639590 967020 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375639652 2982 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Installed some new components, and now (a) an old HD does not appear when it's inside the box (even in a SATA port w/ cables that work for another disk), but works fine in an external USB case; and the machine won't boot an Ubuntu DVD but has no qualms about booting a Windows 8 DVD. < 1375639663 676976 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And I've disabled the Secure Boot thing.) < 1375639672 962519 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375639716 543104 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375639895 201899 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375639979 344621 :scorpo!46bc039e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.188.3.158 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1375640362 999728 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a reason why growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso 'ing an Ubuntu image on a DVD+RW disc (in particular) would be unbootable? < 1375640366 478869 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist doof < 1375640369 193013 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist doof: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1375640373 181953 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like some sort of +RW extra-magic. < 1375640481 4031 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it must be because it is +RW, but I don't know much about that. You have to use -R instead, I think. (I have a DVD recorder which won't play menus on +RW discs (I read the manual; I don't have any +RW discs); so this must be why.) < 1375640534 75999 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it'd boot from a USB stick so I could circumvent that requirement. < 1375640548 84827 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could try that. < 1375641585 215910 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. Well. It booted from the USB stick, displayed a boot menu, but the "try Ubuntu" option is not working very well. There's just a one-pixel wide pink line on the left edge of screen. < 1375641691 570375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's still doing something. Well, maybe my USB stick is just very slow. < 1375642956 350267 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1375643032 931113 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1375643293 230905 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375643700 53533 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1375643742 81549 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375643823 810806 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is anyone here to quickly translate something into Swedish? < 1375643848 801895 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How goes the [learning of the] Swedish [language]" < 1375644234 821956 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375644268 253057 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hur går svenskan?" (Disclaimer: a Finn speaking.) < 1375644477 202536 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Close enough! < 1375645434 4748 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375645509 325896 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1375645528 945660 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1375645664 364783 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375645675 106025 :Guest15597!~sacre@50-81-222-220.client.mchsi.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375645806 425380 :Guest15597!~sacre@50-81-222-220.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375645853 939619 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375645881 745700 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1375646012 5509 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In combinatory logic, is there a one-point basis which does not contain abstraction? The iota comabintor, "X", is a one-point basis defined as (\x.x S K), however both S and K are abstractions. < 1375646066 635596 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by "abstraction", i'm unfamiliar < 1375646070 915706 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there is not < 1375646073 696403 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: a lambda < 1375646096 277227 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. (\x. ...) where ... doesn't contain any lambda abstractions itself. < 1375646105 406783 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could allow (\x y. ...) if you're feeling generous < 1375646124 826506 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hm < 1375646234 267897 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, (\x y. ...) is acceptable if none of the arguments are applied to an abstraction, in the same way that S does not apply any of its 3 arguments to an abstraction (\xyz.xz(yz)). < 1375646269 696223 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chris__: sure. but (\x y. ...) is (\x. (\y. ...)) so you can argue about whether it contains an abstraction. < 1375646283 38182 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably there are formal definitions for and theorems about this and I just don't know them. too bad oerjan isn't here < 1375646340 166254 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're right, it does contain an abstraction. I should rephrase my question to whether or not there is a one-point basis which does not apply any of its arguments to an abstraction. < 1375646378 817363 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's nothing else to apply to, is there? < 1375646398 597004 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other arguments, just like S does. < 1375646475 756504 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically (\x. x x S) or such wouldn't apply any of its arguments to an abstraction. but yes, it's clear what you mean :P < 1375646526 26871 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i see, you want a one-basis combinator where the text of the abstraction is only applications and references < 1375646540 317061 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :S is an abstraction, so, yeah < 1375646553 586906 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe one of you will know if what I'm trying to do is even possible. I'm trying to construct a programming language based on combinatory logic which takes as input some expression containing only applications of a one-point combinator (e.g. X(X X)(X (X X))) and outputs the normal form of it. < 1375646586 737150 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know this is possible with 2 combinators, S and K of course. But I'm trying to think of how to do it with just 1. < 1375646657 546921 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if you could use a language-based argument there somehow < 1375646674 47852 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean by a language-based argument? < 1375646731 387417 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some vague idea based on all wffs in this being completely described by a CFG, i dunno < 1375646747 578286 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chris__: look at iota/jot. < 1375646761 37517 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://semarch.linguistics.fas.nyu.edu/barker/Iota/ < 1375646768 217735 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I have, and I wrote an interpreter for Jot, haha. < 1375646773 597886 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok :) < 1375646830 917352 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why do you want no abstractions? < 1375646848 397535 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, iota is already applications+one combinator < 1375646873 797838 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah but there's something hacky to it. < 1375646885 788224 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, S and K are "abstraction-free" in this sense. < 1375646897 637191 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :iota "feels" like it's just bundling S and K without actually simplifying the bundle. < 1375646934 837543 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both Iota and Jot output lambda expressions, not sequences of 1s and 0s. I'm looking for a language like Jot (input is a binary string) which outputs a binary string, not a lambda expression. < 1375646964 757493 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are ways to encode lambda expressions into binary strings (e.g. de Bruijn indices), but that's not quite what I'm looking for. < 1375647023 819016 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm imagining iota but with one combinator "c" (i'm so clever) with n arguments, and you want to say that the normal form of cx...x is just itself if there are less than n x's < 1375647042 618319 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking for something like input: S, K, and parentheses (or `, the application operator), which gets reduced to another CL expression containing S, K, and parentheses, and the output is the binary encoding of that. < 1375647043 678947 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which allows "initial" lambda abstraction but not, like, something else < 1375647141 748198 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, in the same way that the normal form of (S x y) is (S x y). < 1375647145 778511 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1375647178 638190 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I need is a one-point combinator that has reduction rules which do not contain other combinators < 1375647256 189182 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such that the input CL expression gets reduced to another CL expression in normal form, and both expressions contain 2 symbols. One would be the application operator, and the other would be the one-point combinator that I'm looking for. < 1375647294 68795 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SK is very close, but it uses 2 combinators instead of 1. < 1375647695 769374 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any ideas? I tried coming up with the reduction rules for X which do not result in expressions containing S or K. For example, even though `X`X`XX reduces to K, I would leave the expression unreduced. However, ``XXX reduces to X, and that does not contain S or K so the reduced expression is written as X. < 1375647696 8754 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ii -> iSK -> SSKK -> SK(KK) normal form, right i got this straight in my head now < 1375647712 830872 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, correct < 1375647728 959917 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm slow, i apologize :p < 1375647759 239840 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No worries, I have spent many hours learning this myself < 1375647981 459635 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still thinking of this in language terms... the language of normal SK forms is unrestricted, i think? < 1375647996 859847 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does unrestricted mean? < 1375648066 120465 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :an unrestricted grammar. basically any machine that can recognize the language (distinguish it from badly formed formulas) would be turing < 1375648144 170655 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I believe so. Some SK expressions have no normal form, and are infinite loops essentially. < 1375648204 400872 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. right. that means not having a normal form, not... right ok < 1375648417 154541 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intuitively, it seems like a language consisting of some one-point combinator + application operator should exist, but I haven't found such a thing anywhere. < 1375648454 21219 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's the intuition work? < 1375648469 10844 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one-point combinators are always defined in terms of abstractions or other combinators. < 1375648490 232533 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i guess bitstring to bitstring functions are ill-behaved enough < 1375648496 581808 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Liquid War seems like a great game marred by shit execution < 1375648505 521613 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my intuition is that you need abstractions inside for one combinator thingy < 1375648545 971543 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean that the I combinator can be rewritten in terms of S and K, then S and K can be rewritten in terms of some X combinator. < 1375648568 211482 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty flimsy < 1375648575 281791 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, what do you mean by ill-behaved? < 1375648596 762453 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :potentially uncomputable < 1375648606 871348 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1375648652 801398 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want it to be uncomputable in a particular way though, since e.g. any tritstring starting with SII`SII has no normal form < 1375648667 281726 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where I is replaced with the SK definition obv) < 1375648705 431400 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, ```SII``SII has no normal form < 1375648752 323785 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any good alternatives to Liquid war> < 1375648756 932186 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean that's like having a function where having so-and-so low order trits in the input means derp uncomputable < 1375648768 381797 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or has the OSS community decided that since the project exists, there's no need to make a better one? < 1375648882 943119 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I don't think there is anything wrong with that < 1375648889 981913 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1375648891 102792 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1375648913 892744 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having those low-order trits means the expression is uncomputable < 1375648933 991933 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. yeah sure. i'm sort of thinking to myself in three different formalisms at once because i'm stupid < 1375648947 532374 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, all right < 1375649004 252095 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I could do with tritstrings, but it would be very cool to reduce it to bitstrings (without simply encoding trits to bits, like ` = 00, S = 01, and K = 10) < 1375649037 62880 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because then what do you do with 11? It seems odd to have one undefined encoding < 1375649188 103307 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would something as stupid as taking a three-combinator basis instead work < 1375649227 603707 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol, yes but a one-combinator basis would be better than either 2 or 3 < 1375649240 174048 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not "better", but "simpler" in my mind < 1375649267 304387 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean, if you had a three combinator basis you could encode it as a bitstring and get a 1-combinator thing out of that? i think? < 1375649295 232977 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if I follow that < 1375649338 43214 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3-combinator basis like SKI? Plus application ` is 4? So that 00 to 11 have meaning? < 1375649416 414921 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375649478 384697 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375649501 845216 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, encode SKI` as a bitstring, then find a way to treat 0 and 1 as combinators < 1375649504 833573 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno if that works. < 1375649558 173776 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BCL? Iota/Jot? < 1375649569 43473 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :scroll up < 1375649598 364110 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1375649600 134023 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe BCL < 1375649619 703772 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BCL simply encodes lambda expressions, but individual 1s and 0s don't mean anything < 1375649641 821463 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and individual* < 1375649662 914549 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: olsner: Also how about an #esoteric meetup at Alternative Party instead? It's smaller. (Also sillier.) < 1375649681 339545 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what/when/where is that? < 1375649710 135331 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It's here in October 18th-to-20th. < 1375649711 614136 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be cool if each 1 and 0 was a combinator, and the output is the normal form < 1375649717 694176 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chris__: what do you mean by "don't mean anything" < 1375649743 627425 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's approximately zero information about this year's event, except that there'll be one. < 1375649760 674976 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in BLC, I believe abstraction is 00, application is 01, and an index n is 1^n0. A 0 by itself isn't any of those 3 things < 1375649797 89078 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They stopped organizing it last year because they thought it was getting far too mainstream; instead, they focused on more alternative things; turns out, though, that if they're alternative enough, no-one's going to attend, and then you don't have anyone pay the bills.) < 1375649803 294119 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it's this thing http://esolangs.org/wiki/Binary_combinatory_logic < 1375649815 784280 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is pretty much encoded ski i guess < 1375649825 453150 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Alternative Party is one of the largest demo parties in Finland." according to wikipedia < 1375649853 284046 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i mean, what you're talking about there is just your interpretation, why can't there be another one? < 1375649858 340229 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Well, that's not saying all that much; everything's that not Assembly is tiny compared to that. < 1375649871 509526 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It's a proper (non-gaming) party, though. < 1375649907 656372 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, yeah that is almost exactly what I'm looking for, but such that S and K are replaced by one combinator < 1375649930 222515 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: You can peruse the archive at http://ry.altparty.org/action/ -- you can scroll down a bit to find the 2002-2011 pages. < 1375650009 154116 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: (Though it's somewhat likely this year's event will be something rather different.) < 1375650012 915250 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chris__: see, you're putting interpretations on it < 1375650037 785212 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I was thinking instead of SK`, use X`. The only thing I don't know is how to reduce expressions of the X combinator without introducing S and K. < 1375650066 715496 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: still sounds a bit scary!! < 1375650071 768237 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if Bike there is to comfortingly kidnap me. < 1375650227 735076 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1375650464 490673 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"finish=30756.4min" best initial raid-1 resync ever. (I'm doing a thing while it's running, and it only uses idle I/O.) < 1375650479 595471 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: are there pics < 1375650481 635661 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :re: alternate party < 1375650527 33373 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shared a pic I took somewhere. (I'm sure there are more official ones.) < 1375650593 732759 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :21 days? pretty fast raid resync < 1375650610 126619 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, where < 1375650618 635716 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It's back to 191.8min now. < 1375650627 364524 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's an estimate? < 1375650656 86657 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It's based on the current speed, and it only does 1000 KB/s when there's no idle I/O time. < 1375650666 889185 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's doing 163938K/s now.) < 1375650683 373262 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea where I put my altparty pic. < 1375650711 705106 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, resyncing a mirror should probably have a bit higher priority, you have limited time until the second disk in the mirror breaks < 1375650730 236561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1375650830 251336 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Oh, but it's the initial creation resync. < 1375650843 712024 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: (Admittedly I think it's the same defaults for a non-initial resync.) < 1375650883 156694 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I, uh... I think this is from altparty http://users.ics.aalto.fi/htkallas/i-smoke.jpg but it's not all like that at all. < 1375650957 980652 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://users.ics.aalto.fi/htkallas/sunshine.jpg http://users.ics.aalto.fi/htkallas/sunshine2.jpg that's from there too. < 1375650971 501929 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But it's not always that smoky.) < 1375651012 207257 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like something from a sci-fi film < 1375651137 987267 :Chris__!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1375651185 376081 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's from 2010, and the theme that year was "Space: the forgotten frontier", so that's appropriate. < 1375651390 498745 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: My wife told me to tell you that she's been there (which is true) and it's not scary (which is allegedly also true). < 1375651401 376902 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It might not be terribly exciting, however.) < 1375652115 740368 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is your wife particularly invested in me visiting altparty for some reason :P < 1375652130 990075 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or were you just like "HEY I'm talking about altparty in #esoteric do you have any INPUT" < 1375652268 741916 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375652434 308265 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. I mentioned olsner's Assembly-meetup suggestion as a part of my regular report of things happening, and she suggested I should suggest altparty instead. < 1375652437 309710 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also perhaps she thinks it'd lessen the chances of having to go to Hexham? Who knows.) < 1375652625 312311 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you informed her of the abject horrors of hexham < 1375652639 902243 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's super cute that you tell your wife about #esoteric happenings < 1375653118 341418 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've told her there's a fine cathedral at Hexham, because that's p. much the extent of my knowledge in the field of Hexhamology. < 1375653353 72919 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um not sure abbeys count as cathedrals < 1375653368 22925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they do in finland < 1375653475 952435 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Hexham Abbey is in Category:Anglo-Saxon cathedrals, that's close enough for me. < 1375653536 300247 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does your wife feel about trondheim < 1375653543 563321 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :two birds, one stone, etc. < 1375653577 324164 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://31.media.tumblr.com/52ffccf4adaeff692060308c70ea68d1/tumblr_mr10axwMKH1qklx3fo1_500.jpg < 1375653711 600931 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We was in Svolvær/Nordland somewhat recently, I think that was enough Norway for a few years. < 1375653865 543849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :weather that bad huh? < 1375654148 874799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : presumably there are formal definitions for and theorems about this and I just don't know them. too bad oerjan isn't here <-- i'd expect tromp_ is the resident expert on this stuff < 1375654182 354912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although he seems rather idle at the moment < 1375654189 584793 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott isn't an expert expert discriminator like shachaf can be < 1375654195 576319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1375654258 437036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i have certainly _looked_ at one-point bases for combinators before, i cannot quite recall whether this is impossible though, although none of the examples in wikipedia is of the right type < 1375654318 380495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely recall seeing something more substantive than that. maybe it was tromp_'s paper. < 1375654340 653748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm certainly not bying access to that elsevier one) < 1375654345 596579 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*buying < 1375654353 805177 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is oerjan boycotting elsevier too :P < 1375654372 114398 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Initial creation resync and non-initial resyncs are effectively identical performance-wise. < 1375654375 354959 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375654379 304160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i might boycott elsevier if i _ever_ bought articles online. < 1375654393 579610 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically how that's done is considering one drive to be 100% failed and resyncing that. < 1375654513 681212 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: They *could* easily have differently tweaked speed_limit_min/max parameters, though. < 1375654614 365047 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it would seem fair for people with phds to get lifetime access to this stuff... < 1375654634 754860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CLEARLY < 1375654685 184231 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The copy of 700G from an external should-be-USB3-but-turns-out-to-run-at-480M-probably-because-there-were-some-low-speed-devices-in-the-same-internal-hub is the main bottleneck here, though. (It's running at about 42MB/s.) < 1375654715 595665 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure you plugged it into a usb3 socket? < 1375654725 299724 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It was blue. < 1375654761 168265 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmkay < 1375654851 194983 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: And it's in one of the xhci ports. But I've vague recollections of something about SuperSpeed not being available if there are low-speed devices in the same branch of the tree. (And it wasn't really obvious how the ports are grouped.) < 1375654918 337329 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375655088 390148 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or possibly it's just broken in some other way.) < 1375655211 292788 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ISO I ended up booting with for these pre-installation operations (debian-7.10-netinst-amd64) also very nicely had an e1000e driver too old to support the onboard Intel NIC, so no SSH either. "Meh." < 1375655243 285924 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375655276 828567 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latest debian is too old? what a surprise < 1375655326 624166 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could argue that the Debian is "just fine" and it's just the hardware that's too new. < 1375655419 485669 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375655892 253083 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason I never think to worry about network card support, and now 2 out of the 2 last installs have had an "oh, no driver for the network chip?" surprise. < 1375655933 56593 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you know about EFI support in virtual machines < 1375655977 671226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. I think it exists. < 1375655982 527916 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when that chris person was here before did they have the same number of underscores < 1375656062 827458 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that was them from before, right < 1375656106 36854 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn, it was "ChrisW" < 1375656162 317103 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot to mention the really obvious thing about prefix encoding. < 1375656208 737842 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out there's just a billion chrisses who like the lambda calculus < 1375656273 847498 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :literally angry with rage here < 1375656305 257815 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that. that's quite a common effect of rage < 1375656322 855589 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure you aren't just enraged with anger? < 1375656471 928335 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, anyway, he inspired me to write ski small step as an N -> N function and now i'm wondering about connections to dynamics. i need help < 1375656551 198837 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was /going/ to do something today, but i ended up just faffing about < 1375656647 398247 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway. Someone tell me the best way to get the number of digits of the base-b representation of a natural < 1375656659 60074 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :log doesn't work so great because like, rounding error, maaaaan < 1375656792 633908 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can probably estimate from the number of bits in the base-2 representation, and/or do a binary search to find the b^n <= your number < 1375656831 140251 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like length . showIntAtBase perhaps < 1375656846 148572 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i'm doing right now. it's terrible and i hate it, imo < 1375656854 878509 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :might as well throw together binary search < 1375656873 145723 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use logBase on CReal! < 1375656878 160315 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t logBase < 1375656878 998722 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floating a => a -> a -> a < 1375656884 568590 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> logBase 2 1234 :: CReal < 1375656885 678245 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10.2691266791494178878629061634710448236888 < 1375656887 869053 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> logBase 10 1234 :: CReal < 1375656888 838757 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.0913151596972228772592050619999463466528 < 1375656904 219982 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if logBase for CReal is precise but it should be. < 1375656912 118913 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it's just a matter of rounding. < 1375656916 188373 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what's the O time" < 1375656935 198659 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n -> ceiling (logBase 10 (abs n)) == length (show (abs n)) < 1375656938 818775 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1375656941 8114 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n -> ceiling (logBase 10 (abs n)) == length (show (abs n)) < 1375656944 383155 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 1 test): < 1375656944 583607 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.0 < 1375656948 518563 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1375656952 369078 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \(n::Integer) -> ceiling (logBase 10 (abs n)) == length (show (abs n)) < 1375656952 569554 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : .hs: 1: 15:ScopedTypeVariables is not enabled < 1375656957 239952 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1375656961 259055 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t abs < 1375656961 988610 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Num a => a -> a < 1375656980 28723 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n -> ceiling (logBase 10 (fromInteger (abs n)) :: CReal) == length (show (abs n)) < 1375656983 809265 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : (0 tests)mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1375656986 608461 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \n -> ceiling (logBase 10 (fromInteger (abs n)) :: CReal) == length (show (abs n)) < 1375656990 298634 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : (0 tests)mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1375656992 689493 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i <3 lambdabot < 1375656993 899149 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what... < 1375657003 379446 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I run this bot and I have no idea how it ever works or breaks or anything < 1375657021 679385 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the binary search thing might do kind of a lot of allocation with bignums, hm < 1375657047 219232 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of wish i had generalizeder >> < 1375657083 678978 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's kind of ass to compute isn't it < 1375657101 139003 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I think that CReal solution is theoretically optimal? < 1375657111 917451 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's CReal? < 1375657116 69173 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you can get faster than length . show really, except for micro-optimisations < 1375657118 429467 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :computable real < 1375657119 439166 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: computable real < 1375657179 948843 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's showIntAtBase work? just repeated division i imagine < 1375657192 499201 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :divmod ad infinitum < 1375657199 986449 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously you can skip the mod part. < 1375657266 459208 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1375657298 879289 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like you'd end up with some extra work that could be avoidable if you only want the length < 1375657305 79059 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's the mod part < 1375657323 709641 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let digits 0 = 0; digits n = 1 + digits (n `div` 10) in digits 1234 < 1375657324 939011 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1375657355 989764 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i'll try it with the largest b^n that fits in an immediate and laugh myself to sleep < 1375657379 824178 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :an immediate? < 1375657422 733481 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget haskell words. not a bignum < 1375657467 329858 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: are there any fancy CPU tricks you can do to optimise (binary) digit counting? < 1375657480 479551 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I guess the only real gains you'll get here are low level < 1375657492 809575 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I guess counting up powers of 2 is asymptotically faster than repeated integer division? < 1375657494 689206 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's basically clz. < 1375657516 155620 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I was thinking for arbitrary size integers. but I guess it's repr-dependent < 1375657538 34823 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't most bignums keep a size? if so it's pretty easy < 1375657593 560604 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this bignum is 372 64-bit words plus a head word with clz 19, so it has 23853 bits < 1375657605 150046 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :clz~ < 1375657609 350729 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's boring, so let's say it doesn't keep a size. < 1375657620 640241 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just "one bit is 0 if it's the end and 1 if it's not" or whatever. < 1375657655 800209 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it has to keep track of like, memory allocation and stuff, right? < 1375657658 570309 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for bignums < 1375657659 629762 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess you just have to traverse them all then < 1375657661 622214 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo sucks. < 1375657686 779908 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: well, you could just malloc it and then the data you'd need to cheat is hidden in the libc, I guess < 1375657697 955461 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mission: to make people's lives difficult < 1375657714 271448 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you'd just clz them anyway or whatever. < 1375657718 380726 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, not even that. < 1375657720 480868 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so i have my own instance of lambdabot going. so to get around the mueval time out by just adding -t 3000 on the mueval line in ./src/Lambdabot/Config/Core.hs. is that kosher? < 1375657721 741327 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay it's boring < 1375657731 819988 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :clz is fun! < 1375657749 480371 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok new "exciting question" for elliott: find the digit count of a number, but the number is in modular residue format. < 1375657756 949738 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :modular residue? < 1375657773 201116 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of storing the number you store it mod 2, mod 3, mod 5, mod 7 ad infinitium < 1375657787 830264 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1375657789 949943 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1375657807 880912 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i mean it worked, but is that the "proper" way to do it? < 1375657812 12095 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. 17 is [1,2,2,3]. < 1375657869 730476 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: that sounds like an old version of lambdabot. < 1375657887 460732 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? i have 4.3? < 1375657895 350772 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@version < 1375657895 550936 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot 5.0 < 1375657895 754081 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :git clone git://github.com/mokus0/lambdabot.git < 1375657897 890234 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1375657898 880619 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty < 1375657905 890346 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it sounds fine < 1375657914 660456 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, thanks! and thanks for the awesome bot! < 1375657932 770713 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't write it, I just run it :P < 1375657939 330404 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: (this lets you represent any number up to the product of the modularssss by the chinese remainder theorem, aka the worst named theorem i can think of) < 1375657942 240735 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, either way! < 1375657957 935377 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oooh. that's sneaky < 1375657974 980441 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do multiplication and addition pretty easy since those commute with mod < 1375658450 502161 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my control key keeps holding itself down < 1375658456 250809 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help. < 1375658498 471608 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what you get for not answering my randomly posed questions < 1375659049 737913 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1375659310 582277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: help < 1375659343 702559 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1375659358 832606 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the problem sir and/or ma'am and/or other appropriate honorific < 1375659799 784064 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Convert the number to radixal format hth < 1375660215 505801 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375660360 665488 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1375660362 305732 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375660411 805072 :Jafet1!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375660419 25122 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1375660421 344773 :Jafet1!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet NICK :Jafet < 1375660520 994769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.28.6593&rep=rep1&type=pdf hth < 1375660540 525154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one of my favorite complexity results) < 1375660586 120698 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is this written like a news story < 1375660588 85336 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but thanks < 1375660649 55169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it sort of is < 1375660839 305953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.28.6593 is the summary page but the abstract is clearly broken. < 1375660903 159219 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :“the following theorem shows that there is little hope of finding a substantially better method, since the range of a modular number depends essentially on all bits of all the residues (u_i, ..., u_r)” < 1375660967 156147 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(knuth then writes the theorem, which is too trivial to copy here) < 1375661004 498312 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1375661047 436897 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375661053 476445 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375661956 964521 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375662073 58235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1375662775 470734 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375663184 282362 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-154-121.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375663530 24372 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-154-121.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375663553 241821 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-154-121.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375663834 232113 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-154-121.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1375664392 203232 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375664485 114517 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375664517 693717 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375664633 965209 :augur_!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375664856 77475 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375665769 424568 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375666033 688161 :augur_!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net NICK :augur < 1375666109 828464 :copumpkin!~textual@69.124.141.39 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375666115 8834 :copumpkin!~textual@69.124.141.39 QUIT :Changing host < 1375666115 209049 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1375668133 773294 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375669281 43647 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hey. the division result actually uses chinese remainder. how about that < 1375669632 31205 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre < 1375669954 685332 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Actor Peter Capaldi has been announced as the new star of BBC sci-fi series Doctor Who... Capaldi is best known for his role as foul-mouthed spin-doctor Malcolm Tucker in the BBC series The Thick of It." < 1375670100 535195 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i've already seen a bunch of messages to the effect of "why would you have him play a character who can't curse" < 1375670221 705845 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think doctor who would probably be better with gratuitous swearing < 1375670529 46251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems clear < 1375670702 646695 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1375670806 167568 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375672329 850697 :Guest15597!~sacre@50-81-222-220.client.mchsi.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375672417 580194 :Guest15597!~sacre@50-81-222-220.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375673033 383035 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375673162 872513 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375673525 302674 :Guest15597!~sacre@50-81-222-220.client.mchsi.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375674113 672022 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375675178 923633 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375675444 500094 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375675538 647412 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375675606 801976 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375676161 558569 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1375676229 781118 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1375676234 491059 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1375677482 23431 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375677914 322263 :Chris____!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375678559 23488 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just bragged about small s.c.r.i.p.t. http://esolangs.org/wiki/Small_s.c.r.i.p.t. < 1375679822 806977 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375679931 436556 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375680419 198276 :BuzzBe_T!~BuzzBe_T@79.117.85.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375681600 339738 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375681669 940292 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375682307 251883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is Ctrl supposed to be doing in vim? < 1375682316 910546 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than messing me up. < 1375683060 620721 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing, unless it's been mapped to something < 1375683272 901204 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375683339 885620 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/signal-safe-strcpy < 1375683474 521157 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would symlink be handler-safe when strcpy isn't < 1375683496 803087 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's specced that way, evidently < 1375683580 187266 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the sem_post note < 1375683893 766839 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, xkcd is actually funny again < 1375684050 493486 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375684153 316768 :Chris____!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1375684958 164420 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how large is the second biggest connected component in the global sex graph < 1375685002 837514 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why the second biggest in particular < 1375685040 636830 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the biggest one is huge < 1375685108 210961 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkcd is on to shachaf < 1375685110 317650 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you know? < 1375685112 774962 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the vast majority of components will be size one or two < 1375685140 757155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second biggest one is like the community most successful at being totally insular < 1375685144 196417 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes it more interesting < 1375685150 629044 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess would go to some gay community < 1375685152 22946 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the biggest then < 1375685166 604586 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :great, now i'm going to be wondering about sex connectivity instead of sleeping. < 1375685168 75333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the biggest connected component has a billion people probably < 1375685172 183572 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: probably most promiscuous individuals < 1375685187 948362 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :of any sex or orienation < 1375685197 688624 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combined with prostitutes, or something? < 1375685203 570618 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just sit here, a lone node < 1375685204 726861 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375685212 354548 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :prostitutes are usually fairly promiscuous yeah < 1375685216 720531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that or they're not very good at their jobs < 1375685229 313441 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I was going to say pretty much exactly that :( < 1375685239 937738 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or they're expensive < 1375685248 643 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure I'm in the big component < 1375685260 857894 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though I have low degree < 1375685262 522801 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://crookedtimber.org/2004/08/13/love-is-a-battlefield-spanning-tree-network-with-no-4-cycles/ < 1375685283 466285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: me too < 1375685331 551537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ? < 1375685352 837123 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice, data < 1375685369 343516 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god i can leave this to experts instead of speculating < 1375685377 540089 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of which: do slime molds form models of sex networks < 1375685458 96379 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: how old are you, anyway? < 1375685478 639608 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :????? < 1375685514 288522 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there are almost 50 people within distance 2 of me, so I'm pretty sure I'm in the strong set < 1375685574 305802 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you using a loose or traditional definition of what constitutes sex < 1375685609 525160 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a reasonably strict definition i think < 1375685620 49423 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's only everybody having like seven partners, doesn't seem too implausible? < 1375685621 833083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to be too traditional without also being heteronormative < 1375685639 787632 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1375685656 488177 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm near some cycles, could be wrong though; don't tend to actually talk about it a lot < 1375685659 511664 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :For males there's a fairly traditional same-sex sex definition as well < 1375685683 418170 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's when you have only women that it gets tricky < 1375685696 553717 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: whichcan easily be extended to male-female yet usually is not < 1375685698 341446 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, i had this exact conversation in high school. < 1375685702 81716 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :laughed my ass off then too < 1375685736 376941 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Well there's already a traditional definition there < 1375685754 723610 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then got into a conversation about whether talking about talking about [..recursion..] sex was as dirty as talking about [..recursion..] sex. have all my conversations in life been prep for this channel < 1375685761 722729 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just observing that there is different standard there < 1375685782 945723 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sex isn't dirty, hth < 1375685787 900548 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially when you consider those who do not engage in extramarital copulation, but will do basically anything else < 1375685798 465558 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there lots of these people < 1375685801 292555 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traditionally (and still typically AFAIK) the more traditional stuff happens first so you don't need to worry about whether the extension counts < 1375685814 606321 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: as a virgin in high school roughly everything is dirty < 1375685814 887785 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I do not know how many, but they do exist < 1375685839 950040 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that means you were being a virgin wrong < 1375685853 956328 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what that means < 1375685876 821009 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is amused by Deewiant's traditional ordering < 1375685896 961151 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: indeed, but what of my example? < 1375685948 119886 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Well they're an exception < 1375685965 40407 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how common of a one < 1375685979 264428 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sexologists on the case < 1375685994 297111 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375686023 814657 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially traditionally, they could be a more modern phenomenon (but I suspect not) < 1375686032 845201 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the proper response is along the lines of "anyone who debates over whether sex has to involve a penis probably has really really boring sex" < 1375686042 584464 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1375686099 676246 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc's all "yeah duh, you need at least four" < 1375686104 754065 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1375686120 353645 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1375686153 919054 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just trying to infer kmc's 'reasonably strict definition' < 1375686229 514449 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :look there is some cocksucking involved < 1375686232 542123 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not gonna lie < 1375686245 782752 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But does that alone count? < 1375686270 851223 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was assuming it doesn't since that'd be somewhat looser a definition than is traditional < 1375686319 996179 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm counting it < 1375686348 140978 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty loose then I guess < 1375686353 750883 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if afterward all parties agree "we had sex" then I think it should count < 1375686376 604012 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then the same act doesn't count depending on who you did it with < 1375686442 453601 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're sociologists. that's usual < 1375686459 483329 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh < 1375686486 705323 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, I guess the graphs are interesting whether they're based on subjective or objective definitions < 1375686490 779001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :look you're not going to axiomatize sex < 1375686498 501882 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will personally try to stop you < 1375686510 395473 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc's incompleteness theorems < 1375686597 706138 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You wouldn't accept it if somebody wrote "in the following graph, 'having sex' is taken to mean [...]"? :-P < 1375686677 549230 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't fighting for an end-all be-all definition or anything < 1375686747 759656 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow now i'm annoyed at the pathologization of herpes again. random. < 1375686767 889603 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evidently there's a movie called "The Be All and End All" about a 15-year old boy trying to lose his virginity; take it up with its writers < 1375686786 315750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ? < 1375686913 563989 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mostly harmless and like 80% of all humans have it. some pharma company made people feel insecure about genital sores for marketing purposes and now here we are. < 1375687014 506808 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do think it's kind of interesting/cool how a nervous system infection is so incredibly widespread >_> < 1375687161 322601 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1375687224 459638 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are very occasionally some horror story things like herpesviral encephalitis, where your head slightly explodes < 1375687976 291292 :BuzzBe_T!~BuzzBe_T@79.117.85.170 QUIT :Quit: Konversation terminated! < 1375689611 44466 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1375689936 317571 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PART :#esoteric < 1375690004 934907 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375691316 618225 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1375691683 576380 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am: bamboozled. < 1375691685 670476 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've this pair of 1T SATA (3Gbps) drives that just don't want to work in a computar. All other disks (a 64G SSD, a 3T HD, a 750G HD) work in the same SATA port (with the same SATA and power cables), and correspondingly both 1T disks work just fine in an external USB SATA dock. < 1375691690 85812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've even tried jumpering the 1T drive down to 1.5Gbps combattability mode, but it still just keeps not showing up. (It also does spin up, it just... isn't visible.) < 1375692312 518030 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why the florb does Gigabyte not have BIOS update changelogs anywhere? There's just notes for the latest. < 1375692699 466325 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375693114 441114 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375694204 577774 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375694934 763796 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375696844 887959 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375696895 595071 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Client Quit < 1375696942 798465 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1375697393 238518 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375697416 566910 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 NICK :Guest66946 < 1375697440 783558 :Guest66946!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Client Quit < 1375698751 415746 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375698825 544351 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375698851 403099 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375699045 618221 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375699434 388303 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375699510 571653 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375699574 941548 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375699635 746868 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375701178 511513 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375701518 377466 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375701728 612349 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375702626 779957 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375702692 559964 :neena!~neena@codesurfers.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375703023 495464 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375704473 993668 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Is your nick pronounced as /'keɪ'ɛm'siː/ or /'keɪ'mæk/ or /'kiː'mæk/ or what < 1375704859 4868 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :/'kmk/ < 1375704869 239771 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or /'kms/ < 1375704893 855706 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"drugz" < 1375704898 345451 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the joke is drugz) < 1375704906 933423 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> cycle "HA" < 1375704908 343670 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... < 1375705074 365575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1375705088 128118 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: /'ko̞:'æm'se̞:/ < 1375705194 870741 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Huh, ː and : are different things? Well, let's just say I made an approximation.) < 1375705243 485274 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+02D0 MODIFIER LETTER TRIANGULAR COLON < 1375705258 475350 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a fairly narrow transcription for an approximation :-P < 1375705264 754185 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if the normal colon means anything in IPA < 1375705283 204837 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you get Toblerone-shaped poop from a triangular colon? < 1375705336 843937 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Anyhoo, while there are options like that, yes, I imagine they're not among the ones he uses, which is why I didn't include e.g. that one. < 1375705355 104137 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :None of this non-canonical stuff for me. < 1375705359 925251 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It's what I use when talking about kmc at home, at least. < 1375705365 40526 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A frequent occurrence.) < 1375705397 243184 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although sometimes I just say "Keegan", because it's the funniest. (No offense.) < 1375705465 324695 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Keemac” is certainly correct given his actual name. < 1375705488 883174 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375705513 149706 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Do you say that as /'kiːgən/ or /'keːgan/ < 1375705655 31062 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375705781 51061 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375705926 158080 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375706625 681460 :Cewek!~Cewek@180.241.91.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375706657 418332 :Cewek!~Cewek@180.241.91.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hy < 1375706724 397456 :Cewek!~Cewek@180.241.91.226 PART :#esoteric < 1375707135 112755 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375707330 939629 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375707413 329497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oh, hey. the division result actually uses chinese remainder. how about that<-- well duh why do you think i linked it < 1375707418 634115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1375707425 139248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well no lambdabot < 1375707487 133025 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good unlambdabotty morning! < 1375707643 972502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :impossible! < 1375707685 812905 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: please revert the channel to a possible state! the lack of lambdabot is bad for our daily vitamin intake! < 1375707740 371134 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(lambdabot is from gregor, yes?) < 1375707791 82258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. hth. < 1375707908 174095 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm. < 1375707929 163743 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :random person who usually lambdabots: ↑, and «AAAAAAAAURGH!» < 1375708619 591217 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: /'keːgan/, actually. It's funnier that way, I think. < 1375708997 698601 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1375709053 607607 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1375709255 908410 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1375709268 845526 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what that was all about. < 1375709341 376167 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/omɑilmɑtyːnyɑlusontaynːaɑnkeriɑitɑ/ < 1375709434 535341 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those as should be æs, at the very least. < 1375709449 176495 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. right. < 1375709456 89308 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could use some apostrophes for word boundaries, too. < 1375709466 296006 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not necessary in a broad transcription I guess. < 1375709467 247174 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :accent shmaccent. < 1375709528 60136 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finnish is kind of funny in that you can get something that's almost an IPA approximation just by adding //s around the edges. < 1375709569 870202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pesky orthophonic spelling < 1375709609 760474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait isn't that the word < 1375709631 960180 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And an even better approximation with tr aäö ɑæø. < 1375709649 638952 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming some sort of hypothetical UTF-8-capable tr, do they do that nowadays? < 1375709670 920514 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's locale-aware; it *is* 2013. < 1375709677 190381 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's required to be. < 1375709692 379152 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't h x or something, too < 1375709702 100500 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i don't know finnish at all) < 1375709713 31539 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'bar' | tr aäö ɑæø < 1375709717 570126 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :br < 1375709721 759771 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bÉr < 1375709723 827361 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: was about to say < 1375709731 918563 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it makes an interesting effort instead. < 1375709752 708208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or to be precise, was thinking and about to not say anything) < 1375709761 559635 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know IPA at all, but [Finnish phonology] says it's just /h/. < 1375709784 260690 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1375709798 829623 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course there's ŋ and such, if you want to get all fancy.) < 1375709804 757608 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's not x i guess, but it's unusual in that finnish allows it before consonants < 1375709837 452238 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so, tr is incredibly not locale-aware. Interesting. < 1375709848 514591 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Voi rähmä. < 1375709960 471150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does google translate that as "Oh Rahma." < 1375710032 900795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait i had norwegian as target. with english it just leaves rähmä untranslated. < 1375710123 139443 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a rähmä like a sampo? < 1375710182 586942 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Huh; it's a real word. < 1375710185 858775 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. rheum -- (a watery discharge from the mucous membranes (especially from the eyes or nose)) < 1375710199 489670 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't think it's used for any non-ocular sense, though.) < 1375710219 932649 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'd've @wn'd that, but lambdabot seems to be gone.) < 1375710305 888159 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :allergic conjunctivitis sounds like something a grammarian might have < 1375710575 177875 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION might have it, actually < 1375710672 231071 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend a good dose of French grammar to cure that itchy ailment. < 1375710751 801748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just wash my eyes a lot instead < 1375711617 82472 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375712139 973453 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god French grammar =P < 1375712223 953589 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :French grammar is like having beakers of H2SO4 repeatedly thrown onto your face, but with less enjoyment. < 1375712241 433795 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not *that* bad < 1375712283 278205 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Timmy was a chemist's son, but Timmy is no more: what Timmy thought was H2O was H2SO4" < 1375712360 313642 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, ok. maybe not sulfuric acid. probably nearer to fluoroantimonic acid. the pain is shorter. < 1375712384 993984 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Again, it's not *that* bad. =P < 1375712388 922235 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's complicated, sure < 1375712393 781026 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arbitrary at times, too < 1375712443 232206 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if I managed to teach it to students who were pretty damn far behind, it can't be something that actually kills you =P < 1375712521 582944 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :news report: “Another student found mangled on his desk by a participe passé hate crime...” < 1375712535 171400 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: so, you're a teacher? < 1375712572 145821 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not even, that's the thing < 1375712582 315158 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pas pire, pas pire! < 1375712599 863476 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just took up being a French mentor instead of doing my French Comm course in Cégep < 1375712618 594815 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did the same, but with math students. < 1375712873 165045 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice, nice < 1375714366 594508 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375714513 259916 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1375714580 950300 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Zuu < 1375714583 648070 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​0812Zuu: W06elcome13 to the int06ernat13io14nal 09hub for09 es14oteric06 progra10mming lang14uage desig10n and deployment! For mor14e i09nform02ation, 03check o02ut our13 wi03ki: h06tt11p://esolangs03.org08/wiki/Main_Page. (For 05the other kind o03f esoterica,11 try #esoter14ic on irc.dal.net.) < 1375714631 810081 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhm, hi < 1375714651 987968 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waves? < 1375714657 108118 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375714747 484666 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im not quite used to this kind of welcoming < 1375714870 679399 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello Zuu < 1375714952 668990 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do it to everyone <.< < 1375714960 780198 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least you only got one welcome message, they gave me about 5 < 1375714966 751035 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hehe < 1375714989 525340 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, its certainly much nicer than last time i was here :P < 1375715023 612788 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is only really here because his proxy crashed, and autojoin channels havent been changed for quite a while < 1375716534 825377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1375716684 99052 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375716756 803001 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net NICK :boily < 1375716792 491501 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good. I did my first ghost! back to my usual self. < 1375716818 763869 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now... < 1375716823 243830 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcom Fiora < 1375716824 359909 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: relcom: not found < 1375716826 704138 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Fiora < 1375716830 87079 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08Fiora: Welco09me to the i11nte07rnational hub fo09r e08sot09eric p06ro05g06ramming l05a04nguage 11design11 a09nd depl06oyment! For 04more i09nfo04rmation, check out 06our wik14i:07 http://esolangs.org13/wiki/Main_Pa08ge. (For the06 oth09er kind 06of esote10ri02ca, try 07#esoteric on i06rc.dal.ne04t.) < 1375717350 391325 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome boily < 1375717352 680324 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06boily: Welco09me to t08he inter10natio06na08l hub 06for esoteric programmi06n03g la08ngua06ge04 design and deployment! F11o14r 07more inf13o14rmati08on, check o11ut 12our02 wiki: http://e06solangs12.org/wiki/Main_Pa07ge07. (For the03 other kind of14 esoterica, try #13eso02teri12c on irc.dal13.04net.) < 1375717390 612444 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Zuu, do I know you from somewhere? < 1375717394 598239 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your name looks familiar < 1375717412 190075 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Probably :> < 1375717527 687425 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1375717557 237026 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: unless its familiar in a bad way, then no, you dont know me :P < 1375717604 150788 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1375717731 204599 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zuu: are you Canadian? < 1375717781 611506 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I wouldnt mind to have been :> < 1375717785 59136 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im dane < 1375717948 180986 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375718131 417886 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375718981 650285 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcomes again? < 1375719079 2185 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375719543 153747 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375719985 52851 :dessos_!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :dessos < 1375721462 951028 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375721577 249220 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric < 1375721783 120394 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375721919 31982 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-121.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375722083 288767 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1375722086 155732 :coppro_!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1375722160 556636 :coppro_!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca NICK :coppro < 1375722190 435035 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: the welcomes never stop. we are a very welcommy community. < 1375722240 404095 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :True that < 1375722261 213662 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Roujo < 1375722262 192605 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does any bot here have echo capability? < 1375722263 887988 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1375722271 127282 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome boily < 1375722273 633966 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​03boi10l07y: Welcome to the14 international hu14b fo12r e07soteri14c program08ming language desig05n10 and deploy08ment! For more05 information, che04ck02 out our wiki: http://esolan04gs.org/08wiki/Main_14Page. (For the10 oth08er 06ki11nd of e11so07teri05ca, try 05#esoteric 14on 09irc.da06l.net11.10) < 1375722290 435462 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo Hays < 1375722291 755174 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hays < 1375722295 861062 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1375722303 965994 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo `echo Hats < 1375722305 203916 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`echo Hats < 1375722315 998745 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But of course, it doesn't react to its own lines =P < 1375722321 963283 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo Hays < 1375722321 963504 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hays < 1375722327 392016 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1375722343 519464 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: HackEgo is special. it inserts an invisible space before any line it prints that begins with a non-alpha character. < 1375722351 935716 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo @echo hello < 1375722353 404924 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@echo hello < 1375722357 254130 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome ~echo `welcome Hats < 1375722357 517175 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@echo `echo hello < 1375722357 781466 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo; msg:IrcMessage {ircMsgServer = "freenode", ircMsgLBName = "lambdabot", ircMsgPrefix = "Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com", ircMsgCommand = "PRIVMSG", ircMsgParams = ["# < 1375722357 781660 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric",":@echo `echo hello"]} target:#esoteric rest:"`echo hello" < 1375722359 756594 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​~echo: `welcome: Hats: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1375722370 669776 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, foiled by a colon < 1375722371 374219 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1375722387 786271 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy enough to loop some of the bots if you really want to < 1375722395 792554 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not these days? < 1375722397 357489 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really want to loop them < 1375722399 420667 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :metasepia should be loopable I think < 1375722402 642965 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since that's generally annoying < 1375722404 14553 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. how the what the fungot did my bot log got throught lambdabot. < 1375722412 133886 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@echo q < 1375722412 393733 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo; msg:IrcMessage {ircMsgServer = "freenode", ircMsgLBName = "lambdabot", ircMsgPrefix = "elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott", ircMsgCommand = "PRIVMSG", ircMsgParams = ["#esoteric",":@echo q"]} < 1375722412 393914 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : target:#esoteric rest:"q" < 1375722421 607170 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1375722430 234198 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help echo < 1375722430 499986 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo . echo irc protocol string < 1375722436 224304 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1375722441 680659 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is not good. most definitely, elliottely not good. < 1375722651 316219 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ping < 1375722651 619830 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pong! < 1375722657 259340 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1375722657 681354 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 051700Z 29013G20KT 30SM FEW040 FEW240 20/07 A3001 RMK CU1CI1 CU TR CI TR SLP162 DENSITY ALT 600FT < 1375722661 561442 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@echo ~ping < 1375722661 826424 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo; msg:IrcMessage {ircMsgServer = "freenode", ircMsgLBName = "lambdabot", ircMsgPrefix = "Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com", ircMsgCommand = "PRIVMSG", ircMsgParams = ["# < 1375722661 826618 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric",":@echo ~ping"]} target:#esoteric rest:"~ping" < 1375722668 62535 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@say ~ping < 1375722668 322284 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: src slap faq < 1375722671 485968 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw :< < 1375722679 580686 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo `echo < 1375722679 580803 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo < 1375722680 424669 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375722683 504297 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yessss XD < 1375722688 17484 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo `echo ~echo `echo < 1375722688 286352 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo @echo `echo ^ping < 1375722688 555982 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo ~echo `echo < 1375722688 556120 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@echo `echo ^ping < 1375722688 556196 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo; msg:IrcMessage {ircMsgServer = "freenode", ircMsgLBName = "lambdabot", ircMsgPrefix = "metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765", ircMsgCommand = "PRIVMSG", ircMsgParams = ["# < 1375722688 556281 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric",":@echo `echo ^ping"]} target:#esoteric rest:"`echo ^ping" < 1375722689 603476 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​~echo `echo < 1375722729 473959 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo ~echo `echo < 1375722735 115262 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. no fungot. < 1375722756 859551 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: *chewbacca sounds* *flail* *woggle* < 1375722761 987141 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. No fungot. < 1375722837 189310 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1375722841 21487 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo ~echo `echo < 1375722841 290283 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo `echo ~echo `echo < 1375722841 560553 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo ~echo `echo < 1375722842 746781 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​~echo `echo < 1375722883 878190 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A-choo. < 1375722932 347226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My thing is being real slow. :/ < 1375723041 841447 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi i made this http://ideone.com/5IKz5G < 1375723157 343587 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375723177 360892 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if ruby code matching /[:punct:]*/ is tc < 1375723215 481475 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you do a BF interpreter in punctual ruby? < 1375723217 722758 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you write any character and eval? < 1375723325 741224 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eval is impossible i think < 1375723332 109162 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1375723360 88982 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 259 seconds < 1375723378 753004 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless... hmm < 1375723407 408885 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1375723629 848941 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-82.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375723779 61679 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375723993 489545 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1375724001 910369 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: usually I spell it out letter by letter but yes you can just call me "Keegan" in person < 1375724009 226428 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to have "keegan" an freenode long ago... < 1375724045 265575 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :When the zetas fill the skies, will our leaders tell us why? | 22nd IOCCC is open: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | jsvine is doing an esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q/viewform | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1375724060 121048 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: The latter was more about if it's anything like "keemac" or "kaymac", but OK, you spell it out < 1375724093 970785 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck zeta < 1375724094 496668 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zeta definition: the 6th letter of the Greek alphabet. < 1375724199 812889 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck duck go < 1375724200 207445 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1375724203 106193 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Why the sudden interest, incidentally? Planning a #esoteric talk show or something? < 1375724203 364174 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pfff < 1375724242 81592 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Just came to mind for some reason < 1375724248 782622 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tonight, on the esoteric show < 1375724266 823777 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is rust an esoteric language? or is it just kmc trying to push his playtoy on everyone else? < 1375724271 622933 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf derivatives: are they passe? < 1375724314 92720 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :N-dimensional esoteric languages: the next generation of programming? < 1375724320 713440 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :find out, tonight, on the esoteric show. < 1375724328 294084 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: if we meet in person I'll call you kay em cee is that okay < 1375724361 158452 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thatd be weird < 1375724364 848377 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder when the point was that everyone collectively got sick of bf derivatives < 1375724369 809544 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure it was after 2007 < 1375724389 882607 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep wanting to read kmc as "kimchee" < 1375724392 53238 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then I'm hungry < 1375724440 595627 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck duck duck go < 1375724441 1212 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duck Duck Go is a search engine based in Valley Forge, Pennsylvania that uses information from crowd-sourced sites (like Wikipedia) with the aim of augmenting traditional results and improving relevance. < 1375724485 187703 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: haha < 1375724492 416479 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like kimchi < 1375724495 952202 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1375724499 376347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although not the super fishy kind < 1375724536 655458 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's fishy kimchi? < 1375724546 567710 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but I don't trust it < 1375724636 278357 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“The most common seasonings include brine, scallions, spices, ginger, chopped radish, garlic, saeujeot (hangul: 새우젓, shrimp sauce), and aekjeot (hangul: 액젓, fish sauce).” < 1375724688 419542 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a riemann hypothesis thing < 1375724729 34103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1375724756 55269 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :riemann kimchi? < 1375724761 809772 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.spacereptilesareyourfriend.com/images/30-Electronic-Mail-Blues.jpg < 1375724781 67759 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :MC kmc is on the mike. < 1375724789 887052 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: good domain name < 1375724807 532785 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375724853 396940 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good image too < 1375724924 195391 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actual website circa 1998. < 1375726521 127085 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/11/071108-fossil-foodchain.html fossilized turducken < 1375726620 921757 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it wrong if I find the word "turducken" inherently hilarious < 1375726665 363674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing could be more right < 1375726806 632533 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inherently_funny_word < 1375726846 250190 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as someone who is not American I can also confirm that turducken itself is inherently hilarious < 1375727272 307325 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's more disgusting than hilarious, too close to turd-ducken < 1375727439 885900 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole_stuffed_camel < 1375727754 935580 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375727988 863281 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Also: Delicious. < 1375728211 992513 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: your country invented the deep fried mars bar < 1375728213 381220 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :checkmate < 1375728276 873938 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Scotland is a different country to England < 1375728281 612638 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aiui) < 1375728323 674730 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1375728333 403441 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :several countries under one sovereign state called the UK and also the UK is part of the Commonwealth?? < 1375728344 656369 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then there's the Crown dependencies < 1375728349 378438 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But which of those is a "nation" < 1375728354 693297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you know "2" is apparently a different category from "𝟐" < 1375728360 614968 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :""The Crown" is defined differently in each Crown dependency." < 1375728363 429601 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't make this up < 1375728366 400668 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the latter is a 2) < 1375728392 19084 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :recently england had legislation to put the monarchy under absolute primogeniture but they haven't done it yet because all the other countries with the same monarchy would have to do it too < 1375728405 661484 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is kind of a shame because i like the idea of there being two english monarchs based on local legislation < 1375728417 2646 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: AIUI, "nation" here is short for "nation state" < 1375728427 123905 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: so it has to be the UK < 1375728436 708945 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I don't think England, Scotland etc. are states < 1375728445 796458 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this being a distinct kind of state from the US ones, I think < 1375728457 124459 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in short, lol < 1375728463 120784 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :however I think Crown dependencies are self-governed nation states that just happen to belong to the Crown? < 1375728478 746998 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Legislation of the Isle of Man defines the "Crown in right of the Isle of Man" as being separate from the "Crown in right of the United Kingdom".[6]" fuck < 1375728486 722873 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some level of "self-governed" < 1375728493 138081 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they probably don't handle their own diplomacy or military < 1375728494 514925 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, de jure self-governed. < 1375728506 656531 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1375728507 562688 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Although the Crown dependencies are British possessions of the Crown, and are not sovereign nations in their own right" < 1375728517 213634 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, they can pass local legislation, but not negotiate a treaty independently < 1375728521 185501 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay but they're not part of the United Kingdom < 1375728521 879799 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they're not sovereign < 1375728525 149037 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they... have no sovereign state? < 1375728550 982002 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The relationship between the Crown dependencies and the UK is "one of mutual respect and support, ie, a partnership".[26] < 1375728555 473347 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The British Government is solely responsible for defence and international representation[27] (although, in accordance with 2007 framework agreements,[28] the UK has undertaken not to act internationally on behalf of the Crown dependencies without prior consultation). Each Crown dependency has responsibility for its own customs and immigration services. < 1375728556 297913 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10 < 1375728559 966275 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man i remember when i went through learning this, and i found out that literally the official criterion for "is a state" is "other states call it a state" < 1375728560 513049 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm just going to cry < 1375728563 797635 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just kind of laughed and gave up < 1375728574 87395 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what's wrong with that criterion < 1375728580 114804 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1375728583 350688 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing really, it works very well < 1375728589 227635 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I think I've watched that and it doesn't actually explain these fiddly bits < 1375728594 308973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :international law is really just made up as you go < 1375728595 975130 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for occasional outliers like thailand or kosovo < 1375728596 254875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also all other law < 1375728599 834633 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I thought I had a pretty good grasp on what all the things in the UK and stuff were < 1375728604 565153 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but international law is newer and so this is more obvious, or something < 1375728606 197486 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It might not. I was just hoping it helped =) < 1375728608 511156 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah but this was before i understood that. it was, like, a revelation, man. < 1375728609 443006 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then PH was all "what about the Crown dependencies" < 1375728613 329281 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it is a revelation < 1375728619 114839 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then I was all "help" < 1375728620 871620 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wasn't that me < 1375728629 234764 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, maybe both? < 1375728635 448168 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. sure i remember a conversation like that < 1375728638 755554 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it was like "wow this makes no sense. that makes so much sense" < 1375728642 130931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1375728662 882277 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Crown dependencies, together with the United Kingdom, are collectively known as the British Islands." I like how "British Islands" is a different thing to "British Isles" oh my god < 1375728674 376571 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it's part of the more general revelation of "adults don't actually know what they're doing" < 1375728680 171917 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375728691 661013 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"While their constitutional status bears some resemblance to that of the Commonwealth realms, the Crown dependencies are not members of the Commonwealth of Nations. They participate in the Commonwealth of Nations by virtue of their relationship with the United Kingdom, and participate in various Commonwealth institutions in their own right. For example, all three participate in the Commonwealth Parliamentary Association and the Commonwealth Games." < 1375728720 50637 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: btw the best crown dependency is guernsey. Sark is feudal and all < 1375728768 125545 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay so I honestly don't understand what "state" you're in when you're in a Crown dependency < 1375728776 896759 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not sovereign states unto themselves, but they're also not part of the United Kingdom < 1375728784 114824 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you are, presumably, not stateless < 1375728787 889111 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what citizenship do they have? < 1375728812 955437 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Channel Islanders and Manx people are British citizens and hence European citizens.[39] However, they are not entitled to take advantage of the freedom of movement of people or services unless they are directly connected (through birth, descent from a parent or grandparent, or five years' residence) with the United Kingdom.[40] < 1375728817 898100 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not all the crown dependencies < 1375728821 611590 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Matters reserved to the Crown (i.e. acting through the United Kingdom Government) are limited to defence, citizenship, and diplomatic representation. < 1375728830 13197 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you probably have citizenship of the Crown dependency you're in usually? < 1375728833 848202 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just... it's not a sovereign state... < 1375728834 132229 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm yes, this seems to be utterly fucked. < 1375728848 159221 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think maybe this Wikipedia article is oversimplified in parts or something < 1375728860 892469 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they're maybe kind-of-states enough to have citizens and stuff, just not fully-fledged autonomous ones?? < 1375728874 332688 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, probably, in that you can't get a deep understanding of british law without finding the secret protocols in the magna carta < 1375728908 11839 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice they're also SORT OF members of the EU < 1375728909 413368 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously you know the whole outlawries bill thing right. it's like just way too much tradition man < 1375728913 691188 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of their "association" with the UK < 1375728926 502087 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't french guiana like that too < 1375728927 394504 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of the Four Freedoms of the EU, the islands take part in that concerning the movement of goods, but not those concerning the movement of people, services or capital. The Channel Islands are outside the VAT area (as they have no VAT), while the Isle of Man is inside it.[37] Both areas are inside the customs union.[38] < 1375728945 498032 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no vat? dang < 1375728967 262701 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm nope, french guiana is just part of the european union. < 1375728970 122564 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't Amazon do some things from Jersey < 1375728971 863747 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because no VAT < 1375728972 113376 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stickin their tendrils into south america < 1375728972 842960 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1375729056 134517 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: can you just figure all this out for me so I can stop thinking about it < 1375729084 127644 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's just call it all england and be done with it? < 1375729094 995557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's go to Åland < 1375729111 643016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Verkkokauppa.com (a Finnish computers-and-nowadays-everything-else-too e-retailer) used to send some things from Åland Islands VAT-free. < 1375729119 378492 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy_(international_relations) hth. < 1375729125 404627 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAT-free_imports_from_the_Channel_Islands < 1375729156 448049 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were all priced like 0.05 eur from the maximum limit before you have to do something customs-related, and you could order only one thing at a time. < 1375729181 669327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does their name just mean "online shop"? < 1375729186 12464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1375729189 770782 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :clever < 1375729202 206617 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :goods-and-services.com < 1375729205 848517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1375729209 773874 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow good site < 1375729211 945249 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also paid that one guy to change his name to Verkkokauppa, I think. < 1375729223 864751 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1375729236 944340 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some random dude in the US. < 1375729259 599858 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Formerly known as Calvin Gosz. < 1375729266 589385 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would they do that? < 1375729282 381057 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yknow there used to be duty free shops inside the Berlin U-bahn < 1375729285 211906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty convenient < 1375729288 143283 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Unemployed+US+teenager+gets+curious+new+name+-+Verkkokauppa/1135250640026 < 1375729325 219479 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he only got $5k? come on < 1375729336 632728 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As the number of immigrants in the United States is high, the legislation regarding names is rather loose, which is why changing names in the country is relatively easy." < 1375729356 177409 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :snerk < 1375729365 587364 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ”We have seen quite a number of different spellings of our company name, which is why we stressed that the name will have to be spelled correctly. Otherwise the young man could be left without the remaining sum of money”, Seppälä notes. < 1375729380 12231 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely certain they got their money's worth there, really, in a PR sense, because after those first few news articles, I've heard nothing of it. < 1375729409 155525 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps they could do a "where is Verkkokauppa Com now" episode in a show or something. < 1375729775 872727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should I use for drawing commutative diagrams on a computer? < 1375729882 814104 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfig. < 1375729906 874577 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there not a tex module or whatever for it yet < 1375729917 527221 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are plenty of tex things for it < 1375729923 372240 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??but which to use?? < 1375729959 559567 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use the lazy way and eps everything. < 1375729973 1917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: !!exactly!! < 1375730550 467672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it would be nice to give my heart to a TeX module but which one, which one do I choooooose < 1375730561 910594 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pstricks. < 1375730580 43163 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: i'm as confused as a bear driving a car over here < 1375730594 60557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :comicsans.sty < 1375730607 206339 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slap kmc < 1375730607 459013 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :go slap kmc yourself < 1375730615 596418 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slap kmc yourself < 1375730632 747583 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slap fungot < 1375730633 107205 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION activates her slap-o-matic... < 1375730633 355189 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i still want that box, riastradh? if so, it's a little off-putting. :) < 1375730655 367528 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck riastradh < 1375730655 647172 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warp spasm is a mythological feat found in Celtic myth by which a warrior enters a frenzied state of contortion in battle that makes him invincible. < 1375730656 792033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: perhaps you will fix my destructor cycle < 1375730657 266825 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes you can, and have new features added regularly? if not, don't bother. go straight to /dev/ dsp is using before writing to it < 1375730721 756294 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: have you tried bonghits yet < 1375730733 72223 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can confirm that he has < 1375730740 648954 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck bonghit < 1375730741 13269 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1375730743 467008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not exactly < 1375730744 981133 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A luxury toilet controlled by a smartphone app is vulnerable to attack, according to security experts. < 1375730832 164244 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :having your toilet hacked would probably be distressing < 1375730843 311744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a strict "no bonghits at work" policy < 1375730855 69262 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realize this makes me a conservative dinosaur who just doesn't ``get'' startup culture < 1375730862 867475 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, so what can you do with a hacked toilet? < 1375730863 333696 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: what if you got your aim hecked... < 1375730878 437070 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :far beyond distressing < 1375730921 255512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what about other kinds of hits < 1375731023 860375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unclear < 1375731026 805233 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps cache hits will fix my performance problem < 1375731031 787320 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-218-142.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375731227 362626 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.purple.com/ < 1375731440 728138 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :purple.com is one of the eight wonders of the internet < 1375731443 310526 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what the others are < 1375731452 237570 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a moment I thought it was a new host for #esoteric's logs... < 1375731591 397001 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375731796 506944 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1375732145 30783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[xcb] Most likely this is a multi-threaded client and XInitThreads has not been called < 1375732147 992016 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[xcb] Aborting, sorry about that. < 1375732150 551411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so polite < 1375732189 728087 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375732953 165654 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-218-142.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, why are there muse lyrics in the topic < 1375733150 786792 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375733169 698904 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1375733170 506890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: for inspiration hth < 1375733203 533970 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-218-142.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the answer is clearly because they are fully loaded celluloids, which target nothing but our minds < 1375733263 769204 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shakes fungot out of Taneb < 1375733264 50982 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: heh, then put it up or are you a teen-ager? even sillier!! < 1375733573 527575 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-218-142.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, that's the next two lines of the song < 1375733591 704785 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. silly me. < 1375733617 546769 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION still shakes Taneb for the fun of it < 1375733631 153169 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-218-142.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's a weird song) < 1375733634 669997 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-218-142.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Exo Politics) < 1375733655 846789 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1375733686 775049 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only other song that has “celluloid” in its lyrics that I know of is carpet crawlers from genesis. < 1375733696 456166 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-218-142.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi0XGqFt3Es < 1375733702 394415 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one too is pretty incomprehensible. < 1375733782 231217 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. here come the zetas. < 1375733836 610632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I thought they were satellites < 1375733849 198074 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why is why not < 1375733867 205024 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1375733868 491952 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-218-142.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so it is < 1375733871 825180 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-218-142.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mistake < 1375733972 36026 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1375734038 897892 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375734177 348503 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375734425 484551 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375734493 3577 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375735379 739138 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1375736244 332532 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Washington Post Company just announced that it has reached an agreement to sell its newspaper publishing business to Amazon founder and CEO Jeff Bezos for $250 million." O______O < 1375736253 882906 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1375736291 577802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, is he running for office? why the hell else would somebody want to own a newspaper < 1375736526 4302 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kindle??? < 1375736537 879105 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably jeff bezos just wants to own everything though? < 1375736544 341139 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: To improve the quality of the newspaper? < 1375736550 713289 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unsettled WP editorial board reflexively calls for airstrikes on Barnes & Noble and Overstock." < 1375736551 554984 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jsvine: what is your professional take on this story < 1375736565 603956 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: totally fascinating < 1375736579 653578 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I wanted to own a newspaper, I would do so in order to improve it. < 1375736656 438649 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: haha < 1375736660 281582 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the "`*list" for the Dungeons&Dragons recording? I think it could be "`*list" just for consistency (even if the file doesn't exist); what would it be called, please? < 1375736682 771092 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :jsvine: How much of esolang report did you write so far? < 1375736709 181109 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: there's an argument to be made that newspapers could benefit from owners with the money and skill to develop a long-term strategy, rather than the desperate grasping for page-views that's become so common. Who knows if Bezos is the right person, but very much looking forward to seeing how this plays out. < 1375736753 406287 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally, the Post will get a good API < 1375736810 452442 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You get to name it. < 1375736831 738084 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-218-142.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375736858 770135 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I have a considerable chunk written, but it still needs a stronger "human" narrative, something that non-technical readers can relate to — a quest to create X, or a rivalry between X and Y, or just some colorful anecdotes < 1375736887 449097 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :jsvine: Ah, OK. < 1375736898 654863 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: since there's no particular rush for the story, I'm gradually figuring that part out, interviewing folks, etc. < 1375736914 261463 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmm who shall be my rival < 1375736936 741255 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you might like this: https://github.com/dwillis/post_haste < 1375736943 93612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: OK, I can call it "`danddreclist" (I didn't finish yet; when I will I will type it by itself). (Note: Your client should be progreammed to only filter on messages starting with "`danddreclist"; not on all messages containing it! < 1375736944 785030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: can i be your archnemesis < 1375736958 508063 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah, i don't actually need one, but thanks < 1375736983 505478 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Wait, my client doesn't filter on list names. The point of lists is that the bot notifies me. < 1375737020 544478 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: So you would make a HackEgo program in bin/danddreclist and it would print my name. < 1375737034 306829 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Washington Post, one of our country’s greatest newspapers, just sold for 1/4 the price of Tumblr." there are a lot of good quotes coming out of this < 1375737039 378703 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You can program the bot to notify you if you want that, I suppose; after all, it is prefixed in the way to do that. I won't put that but I do this that you can program it if you want to make it do that. < 1375737060 288072 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have HackEgo on /ignore or something? < 1375737071 149535 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cp bin/{empty,danddrec}list < 1375737073 645844 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No. < 1375737074 524757 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375737080 652802 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo shachaf >> bin/danddreclist < 1375737083 469096 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have it ignored < 1375737083 705156 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375737090 649705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone else want to be on the list? < 1375737133 404940 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo nooodl >> bin/danddreclist < 1375737137 94022 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375737414 260743 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey elliott remember the "is symbols-only ruby TC" thing! turns out it kinda is, if you cheat < 1375737466 335813 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically you construct a string like "ruby -e 'do stuff'" and then print `#{__}` < 1375737502 827713 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is very cheating < 1375737509 31841 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also print isn't symbols?? < 1375737532 674521 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$><< is < 1375737561 515723 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :($> is the perl-y global variable for stdout, << sends stuff to it """C++ style""") < 1375737574 503352 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1375737597 84129 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bpaste.net/raw/120265/ here's an example! it counts to ten and prints hello world < 1375737720 737208 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GYAAAAAH! < 1375737812 467273 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if dependent typing will ever hit the mainstream < 1375738010 633846 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :never. < 1375738039 919891 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think C will be still used during the 22nd century? < 1375738070 917141 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I think C will still be used although maybe with a lesser percentage. < 1375738073 540256 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. will humans be the ones who are using it? < 1375738083 924109 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, zorblaxians < 1375738112 981430 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you a zorblaxian? < 1375738113 204338 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: got it. < 1375738125 338154 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eyes fungot suspiciously < 1375738125 764127 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well no matter what is and, if i'm not totally sold on the net, who's going to play with < 1375738152 305854 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Human or not, I think if someone is modifying an existing program written in C, they will know some things of C programming even if they don't use C as often as others. < 1375738152 561806 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eyes fungot very suspiciously < 1375738152 777344 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i guess i've only ever been a proper stove at home now < 1375738191 556064 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You don't run *that* hot. < 1375738191 807852 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i'm afraid that's something you should be doing < 1375738219 798488 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup. that bot is most definitely a zorblaxian. < 1375738229 369411 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1375738236 108892 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375738236 336608 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by 2117 greenland will have melted and the remaining humans will pledge fealty to zorblax corporation, and so on < 1375738244 35835 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I, uh... are you going to incinerate me? < 1375738244 316183 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: scheme is far more interesting. < 1375738254 821217 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A relief. < 1375738255 101214 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375738265 354505 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the Washington Post may be one of the greatest newspapers but it cannot supply me with an unlimited amount of incredibly specific pornography < 1375738281 372366 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmhm < 1375738285 806870 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully bezos can fix that < 1375738312 738346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: didn't you see that episode of TNG where they discover the Borg is written in C and attack it with a format string vulnerability < 1375738337 752313 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"POSIX conformance was your downfall" < 1375738353 983626 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1375738578 936825 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Haven't seen that one, but I have seen the one with a buffer overflow due to not checking the input size < 1375738581 797563 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am captai%n jea%n luc picard < 1375738608 374544 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :specific pornography? like, the shadow of a left nipple of a 36¼ year old woman from north-western nebraska cast in a blue-violet light? < 1375738645 558772 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a pretty good idea, designing scanf to write to arbitrary memory. < 1375738668 696123 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and printf, for that matter < 1375738726 601928 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: I have no idea what a legitimate use of it would even be < 1375738778 989305 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a legitimate use of printf? < 1375738780 808367 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest two things adding to printf formatting strings: One is a "read-only" format specifier which makes it cannot write, and other which tells it to parse the rest of the string for size specifications of numbered parameters but otherwise ignore it (so that you can make a user format string which uses the first and third value and ignores the second, for example). < 1375738800 268960 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: No, %n < 1375738808 518202 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :When would you actually use it? < 1375738834 475784 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I know I don't think it is useful. < 1375738843 264553 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...hm. < 1375738856 668485 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe for tabulation? < 1375738861 241844 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of... some kind. < 1375738889 736421 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it helps much for tabulation. < 1375738910 818863 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :A tab counts as one character < 1375738933 171101 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, it could be used for tabulation < 1375738937 33325 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you did it using spaces < 1375738941 49142 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1375738952 650614 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/a/3402415 well, ok. < 1375738955 666185 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll be happy to know I've written 0x401f2d bytes so far! I'm so happy I'm not just telling you, but also the PLT. Hope this helps, have a good day! < 1375738970 606258 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming language theory? < 1375738972 717630 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have long strings and then you will line up in columns, make something like: x=printf(...); while(x++<20) putchar(' '); It is one way. < 1375739006 731638 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like printf("%d%n", somenumber, moo); for(i=0;i<(something-moo);i++) putChar(' '); < 1375739025 492306 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, you need to dereference the moo < 1375739028 713288 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you get the idea < 1375739049 512079 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well in this imaginary situation you want to print something on the same line as x after the beginning of the columsn. < 1375739069 104313 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :printf already returns the length though, and if it is just something simple like %d then you can still use the left-align format code for it < 1375739102 420759 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unix people using columns to create tables, HTML people using tables to create columns < 1375739106 446432 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All madness, all of it < 1375739108 183801 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but you'd need to break it into two calls. x = printf(...); printf(...); while (x++ <20) ... < 1375739121 988913 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that this is very good or anything. < 1375739127 709627 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: %n can be in the middle of the printed string though < 1375739133 477732 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I don't know what's the point of doing that, though. < 1375739150 684192 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :convolutedly justifying %n < 1375739181 319696 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Yes it can, but such thing doesn't seem very useful. Even then, you can use multiple printf statements. Maybe some programs use %n but I don't use it. < 1375739201 527324 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is what I suggest adding two new format codes, which can help. < 1375739270 899561 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest looking for %n in the linux source coude < 1375739272 753444 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :code* < 1375739333 935310 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375739514 10976 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375739566 195245 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: yeah Kees Cook carries around a thumbdrive with partitions with names like "%99999n" < 1375739570 327830 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will crash a lot of machines < 1375739578 970523 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not necessarily in the kernel, but in all the gnome bullshit that looks at new disks, etc) < 1375739609 797557 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why should you use the partition name as a format string? That doesn't make any sense. < 1375739725 552681 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/08/04/obama-is-wrong-traditional-journalism-isnt-dead/ «Correction: This post originally stated that Obama said “traditional journalism is dead” in his interview with Amazon. That was incorrect.» < 1375739756 977767 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bpaste.net/raw/120285/ < 1375739771 127951 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BCT in ruby (with . and * instead of 0 and 1) using only punctuation < 1375739781 206678 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :about time < 1375739806 628775 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$;=$$/$$; $.=$$-$$; < 1375739808 558096 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cutest line imo < 1375739830 530590 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait is $$ guaranteed to be nonzero?? (it's the pid) < 1375739856 278799 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see a zero in there it isn't punctuation. But $. is zero isn't it, can you use that? < 1375739883 959048 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops i forgot that zero < 1375739886 657604 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1375739904 598577 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bpaste.net/raw/120287/ there < 1375739972 729381 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very cute. < 1375739980 437316 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the irony, it burns < 1375740247 511625 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To monitor kinetics continuously, we outfitted each cockroach with a custom micro-accelerometer backpack," < 1375740269 390653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now just s/back/jet/ and we're all set < 1375740315 547920 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, how much fuel can you fit in 600 mg of pack < 1375740343 788162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just make it nuclear duh < 1375740434 145716 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds hard. < 1375741302 119877 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's powered off the cockroach < 1375741419 880739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : except for occasional outliers like thailand or kosovo <-- itym "taiwan" hth < 1375741431 871766 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do :( < 1375741504 20040 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote kosovo < 1375741505 659882 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :136) "Europe is the national anthem of the Republic of Kosovo." alise: I I was going to say something then your last line floored me < 1375741534 906218 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: cockroaches are notoriously lacking in heavy water < 1375741548 370873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait thailand and taiwan aren't the same country???????? brb calling embassy < 1375741590 620231 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thaiwan embassy < 1375741603 748138 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that was a dumb mistake sorry < 1375741619 519839 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taiwan is the one that keeps saying it's china, thailand is the one that's like vietnam or whatever < 1375741633 750359 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :filed under: communists < 1375741637 360154 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well now i feel better. < 1375741646 25842 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thailand is a monarchy... < 1375741654 770435 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh I hear they're like vietnam < 1375741658 330787 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore. < 1375741660 875092 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"communist monarchy" < 1375741690 950978 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone is a king < 1375741801 921705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know pad thai was invented only in like 1940s and is more chinese than thai in origin < 1375741837 600759 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prime Minister Luang Phibunsongkhram popularized it as the national dish to promote nationalism < 1375741860 700777 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :great name < 1375741897 330246 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some day, alise will come back and pull a cpressey. < 1375741922 850537 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: ´´´´´´´´ < 1375741937 660562 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: at least it's not chop suey < 1375741938 190347 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375741958 111701 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'anthropologist E.N. Anderson concludes that the dish is based on tsap seui (“miscellaneous leftovers”)' < 1375741961 190964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :catchy name < 1375742015 390947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is reminded of pytt i panne < 1375742035 100264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i haven't had for ages, i think < 1375742083 454971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why am i in ##c++ again < 1375742094 681770 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it's not ##c? < 1375742165 635231 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdT1YT9AOPA finally < 1375742558 451947 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375743138 782278 :douglass_!~douglass@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375743200 932101 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yeah, why are you in ##c++ when you should be in #idris < 1375743241 495463 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1375743387 343009 :ChrisW!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375743474 190839 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey ChrisW last time you were here i forgot to mention you can do a prefix code for ski in binary so that 11 means something. < 1375743507 394138 :ChrisW!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would 11 mean? I sort of forgot what 00, 01, and 10 mean too < 1375743538 126234 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :say 0 is `, 10 is K and 11 is S < 1375743599 764426 :ChrisW!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's almost the same as BCL, right? < 1375743611 289235 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno maybe < 1375743753 533750 :ChrisW!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there is a one-point combinator which does not contain application to an abstraction < 1375743800 367014 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think the million dollar wedge in Wheel of Fortune is actually worth only a few dollars? < 1375743957 373577 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently 1600x900 at 14" counts as an "HD display" for marketing purposes -_- < 1375743963 153446 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1375743978 672667 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :high-definition, adj. bigger than 1024x768 < 1375744006 663424 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't 1024x768 already HD? < 1375744010 726710 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's 720p :P < 1375744013 234802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean technically 720p is "high def" but still, screw you monitor manufacturers < 1375744016 263708 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1375744025 69860 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stares at x600 monitor. < 1375744241 641493 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: well, 1280 > 1024 < 1375744247 203749 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 720p is 1280x720 I think < 1375744256 95936 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by I think I mean I just looked it up on Wikipedia < 1375744760 214641 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is the TH in mchost actually less code that creating helper functions and writing the code directly? < 1375744766 16108 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/that/than/ < 1375744767 744566 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Blf073f2Lc < 1375744772 694817 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally, closure for doctor who < 1375744781 162536 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375744833 935379 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: it generates data types as well as a parser < 1375744841 155009 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also mchost is like years out of date btw < 1375744858 862952 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might want to look at mcmap, it had stuff to automatically parse out the protocol from the dev wiki < 1375744866 124941 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a more convenient, albeit hackier approach < 1375744926 148155 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: did you develop that as well? < 1375744975 634027 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I worked a lot on mcmap, yes (this one: http://github.com/fis/mcmap), though it's originally fizzie's project < 1375744978 544440 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's similarly outdated < 1375745069 594364 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: which version of minecraft was it last tested for? < 1375745125 384618 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever the latest version was in 2012-01-06, presumably < 1375745129 265570 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they redid the whole protocol or something? < 1375745138 454921 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I hope so, it was an awful protocol) < 1375745154 486462 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: variable width with no terminator < 1375745160 64444 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :good times. < 1375745313 116403 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the protocol at least used to assume that running zlib over some data never made it bigger. < 1375745321 704968 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe even always made it smaller? < 1375745323 164281 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute, anyway < 1375745478 508352 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375746378 349092 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375746401 97756 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375746740 29699 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1375746839 779273 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1375746975 931012 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :journals with social features are kind of cool. i can see that someone in yellowknife and eleven kenyans have read this paper < 1375747503 339439 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375747815 268908 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375747815 508156 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1375747815 508234 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375748481 299430 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Mittani has horrible hair! < 1375748699 429570 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maccaroni and cheese tastes better than I thought it would < 1375748982 839104 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375749121 540012 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should make it so that if you write "`? `slist" and whatever the `*lists are, that it can tell you what that one is for. < 1375749537 830895 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375750300 421422 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.136.81 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375750321 922576 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375750648 234352 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1375750745 162639 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ...EVE? < 1375750752 767183 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :talk about random clash of interests for me < 1375750765 302645 :ChrisW!403a0d6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.13.110 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1375750770 272366 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2fyO4uKkxo < 1375750829 874209 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never played, and don't know much, but I like reading about it < 1375750832 852309 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially major scams < 1375750840 472955 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should read the Titans4U thread fully someday < 1375750982 973640 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist (908) < 1375750984 492975 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist (908): shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1375751054 785464 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, have the redditors been crushed yet then < 1375751068 622777 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I think that battle has come and gone, afaik < 1375751078 864682 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Afaiu, the Redditors went into battle knowing they'd lose < 1375751094 773481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh list < 1375751104 522565 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's moved on from goons to redditors? < 1375751114 462743 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Should it be renamed oohlist? < 1375751127 263305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :naah < 1375751231 75827 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, no, this was the goons declaring war on the redditors < 1375751249 208030 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1375751262 603737 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game economy shifted around and left them sitting on top of a pile of resources they weren't equipped to defend < 1375751505 803859 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375751673 825366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The lambdabot dice thing says "shachaf:" even in /msg. < 1375752650 169638 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://designislaw.tumblr.com/post/57473412060/ what in the fuck < 1375753038 726383 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a "overlapping rectangle picture format"? I do have idea for making up such a thing, though. < 1375753135 7769 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can people sustain these levels of anger < 1375753172 450131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: chronic physical pain hth < 1375753194 309891 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tfh < 1375753203 987082 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what do you mean by "overlapping rectangle", is it a sort of layers? < 1375753252 617134 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: I mean that the picture is made up by a bunch of rectangles, all of which are black, and everywhere other than such rectangle is white space. < 1375753282 793032 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: mostly i was reacting to like the wi-fi thing. < 1375753296 236682 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there might be an image format based on quadtrees. < 1375753316 954956 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375753323 327934 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but of course individual squares in the quadtree do not overlap, I know) < 1375753336 184595 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :svg? < 1375753374 503619 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, yeah, that's stupid and offensive. < 1375753452 838104 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made a program in TeX for printing .PBM pictures, but I think a more efficient format could be made up, using the following features: * It isn't too difficult to parse using TeX. * It is monochrome file. * It is ASCII format. * The data does not take up too much space. * It can be used with other programs too. * The output is efficient (such as using rectangles larger than individual pixels). * It can be scaled, but may have a default < 1375753867 477576 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1375753946 394836 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375753974 527846 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375754287 993099 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375754783 439091 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375754823 509591 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375755066 260148 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1375755081 812103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how the IBM repair form assumes you live in a city with 8 or fewer letters in its name < 1375755084 839787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean doesn't everyone < 1375755194 849841 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375755199 370906 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@_@ ... really < 1375755199 571062 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : ... really < 1375755200 760487 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there are two fields for name, one of which is long enough to fit my name, one of which is not < 1375755201 837015 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :took me five tries to think of one that would fit < 1375755204 153069 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"los angeles" < 1375755205 869349 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1375755212 688900 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"san francisco" < 1375755221 718845 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um um um "new york" that fits < 1375755272 290808 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :new york city < 1375755276 918907 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of Portland. < 1375755293 987632 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"chicago"? < 1375755365 353267 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well, the city's name is New York < 1375755429 750307 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just give the nearest airport code. Surely that's precise enough? < 1375755448 119607 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nearest airport code to me is in another state, probably < 1375755507 974966 :sacje!~sacre@50-81-222-220.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375755509 50022 :sacje!~sacre@50-81-222-220.client.mchsi.com QUIT :Changing host < 1375755509 250140 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375755545 571991 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: keeg mcall from sanfranc < 1375755559 200425 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :, californ < 1375755583 800694 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :KMCALL~1 < 1375755675 99661 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, damn, that's probably what actually happened. < 1375755680 370142 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does kmc have a middle name? i hope it's "Mc" < 1375755713 700033 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone decided to store the information as files on an 8.3 filesystem. < 1375755758 729844 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :keegan #drugz mcallister < 1375755761 391178 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :including the # < 1375755777 70108 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(pronounced "kay octothorpe drugz em cee") < 1375755923 960445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: itym "sulamit drugz" < 1375755928 510326 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1375755979 759898 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym drogues < 1375755994 390077 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although idk why kmc's so interested in parachutes < 1375756469 412201 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose "Sanfranc" should be sufficient. < 1375756513 432627 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about Saint Francis, Wisconsin < 1375756541 881319 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "15.6" HD (1366 x 768)" < 1375756542 164390 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can enter the state too then it might help, though. < 1375756553 841751 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The state can be given by a two-letter abbreviation, too, if needed.) < 1375756567 593930 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, oh, I know, use the city and state fields to enter geographical coordinates. < 1375756618 794158 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you have numeric filenames in DOS? < 1375756630 72031 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Please mail to 1600 PENN AVE NW, 38-8976N 77-0366W" < 1375756638 500930 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by burrito drone < 1375756653 972790 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, "20500", almost forgot. < 1375756655 803078 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes. < 1375756660 800497 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, flying a drone in that particular area might be a bit problematic < 1375756663 592406 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've met multiple people recently who would say e.g. "hashtag esoteric" for this channel < 1375756678 12086 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "hashtag" is yet another name for # now < 1375756711 951480 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never pronounced the # in IRC channel names, the scant few times I've had to refer to IRC channels out loud. < 1375756752 681751 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still "sharp" for me, thankfully < 1375756770 36062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :♯esoteric < 1375756774 709780 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :♯drugz < 1375756791 71442 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1375756805 812610 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :♭esoteric < 1375756809 881966 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :& looks kind of like a flat symbol if you squint and give yourself presbyopia. < 1375756842 484652 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1375756855 275247 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1375756870 518261 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1375756874 869980 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1375756903 333137 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use a b like everyone else. < 1375756957 694572 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :& is for server-local channels. < 1375756990 293856 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375757013 436543 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: Yes, that is what it is in IRC. # is network, & is local to server, + is network modeless, ! is network with server-side codes added to the name to prevent takeovers from netsplits. < 1375757029 696394 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you have any document with proposals for improving the IRC protocols? < 1375757041 16017 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/..$/?/ < 1375757050 712664 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On servers that support all channel types, you shouldn't use the # type because other types works better. < 1375757074 824017 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No. < 1375757110 904665 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never seen any network that supports the latter two types. < 1375757221 12790 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The types &!+ are all immune (although for three different reasons). I think I have seen some networks that support those types, but it isn't very common, it appears. < 1375757247 368177 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :immune... to the irc plague? < 1375757270 254273 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, they are immune to netsplits. < 1375757341 722844 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1375757382 944308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :immune to hugz < 1375757510 853398 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375757564 775789 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375757903 22952 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375758349 594092 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist 38 < 1375758350 964599 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist 38: shachaf nooodl < 1375758753 535355 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Thanks! < 1375758761 735030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where can I find it? < 1375758856 914573 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex (the precompiled .dvi is also available) < 1375758870 984786 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe that should be noted somewhere. < 1375758876 566949 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like I said, perhaps we should make it so that whatever `*lists are mentioned so you can write "`? `danddreclist" so you know. < 1375758904 458995 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex (the precompiled .dvi is also available)' > wisdom/danddreclist < 1375758907 614467 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375758914 705495 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? danddreclist < 1375758916 505858 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex (the precompiled .dvi is also available) < 1375758958 520574 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? slist < 1375758960 347640 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1375758960 674549 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1375758960 954743 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          o/`¯º < 1375758981 348423 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'Update notification for the webcomic Homestuck.' >wisdom/slist < 1375758984 87595 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375758997 795012 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'Update notification for the webcomic Order of the Stick.' >wisdom/olist < 1375759001 455864 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375759019 665194 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf can write something humorous for `smlist. < 1375759051 735514 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about 'Update notification for the webcomic Super Mega.' hth < 1375759074 292156 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those descriptions are not good, though. < 1375759090 786421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should have a URL, and they shouldn't say "webcomic". < 1375759115 56050 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, probably that would help a bit. < 1375759144 37112 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1375759182 448938 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375759217 244946 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Most networks use timestamping for # channels by default to resolve netsplit collisions, so a separate type is superfluous. < 1375759262 236549 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375759303 465458 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: Well, it makes ! superfluous anyways, but still only if the network is programmed to use the protocol that does that. Also, it doesn't make + superfluous. < 1375759650 357642 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375759793 28183 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375759870 792229 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375760050 456612 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375761863 922024 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375762229 449936 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375762381 832419 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375764378 402397 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375765650 809638 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1375765747 692918 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you read my Dungeons&Dragons game latest one? < 1375765948 348641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1375765955 873523 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you set up some way for me to read it in my browser? < 1375765961 403689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would make it much easier. < 1375766000 653424 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either serve it as plaintext with text/plain (e.g. with a symlink level20.txt?) or as HTML or as PDF. < 1375766297 990549 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prefix the URL with "view-source:" that might work in some browsers. < 1375766336 584142 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you can make bets on what would happen next in this game. < 1375766381 874007 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might also add a .htaccess to make it serve as text/plain. < 1375766562 537155 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK I fixed it now. < 1375766595 624038 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: The number after "`danddreclist" is the session number.) < 1375766618 44212 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Now it is text/plain I made the .htaccess to override that file < 1375767096 20721 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1375767494 665287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Thanks! < 1375767501 355630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of feel bad because application/x-tex is more correct. < 1375767509 965646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But my browser is bad. < 1375769120 914309 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1375769654 439780 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1375769716 239159 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/rtFkBme.gif < 1375769839 71159 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375769916 596781 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too, seal. < 1375770013 368652 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a pretty bad loop < 1375770027 598157 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone can identify with rotating seal. < 1375770579 173651 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :His ratings are off the charts < 1375770703 432252 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But he alienates his original fans who are generally cynical and depressed and popularity-averse. < 1375770732 50469 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seal deals with this by rotating. < 1375770789 295908 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He owes nothing to you < 1375772979 293728 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G_IU5lK1E8 even in 2029, when we have 32 TB pages, we will use IPv4 < 1375772982 623197 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have slow-ass terms < 1375773167 515091 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375773634 266524 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slow-ass terms without properly aligned text! < 1375773656 894856 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ok but this aesthetic is fantastic. < 1375773674 435952 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know what's going on but still < 1375774019 785627 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375774099 424114 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It actually uses your local IP address. < 1375775030 841973 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does malloc(sizeof(Macro)) cause a segmentation fault even though usually it doesn't? < 1375775046 797393 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-218-142.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375775148 691378 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like the heap is corrupted by something else before you get to that call < 1375775176 986783 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, yes I suppose that might cause it. < 1375775270 565309 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375775397 917100 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1375777177 532784 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1375777439 901701 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokoko < 1375777445 963358 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokoko < 1375777452 481837 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokoko < 1375777463 911943 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oko. < 1375777979 658341 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-218-142.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :G'day < 1375777987 175756 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1375778971 357902 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1375779566 981747 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1375780039 394080 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1375780050 656054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know most `olist readers have never played d&d?? < 1375780177 841958 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375780233 451823 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1375780984 373985 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1375781211 955584 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-218-142.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not < 1375781314 635936 :BlueShark!BlueShark@unaffiliated/blueshark NICK :BlueShark_ < 1375781439 853108 :BlueShark_!BlueShark@unaffiliated/blueshark NICK :BlueShark < 1375781496 178848 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome BlueShark < 1375781499 644871 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13BlueShark: Welcome to t03he international hub for esoteric program08min10g language design and deployment! For mor09e 11information, c05heck out our wik08i: http05://es14ol02angs.or13g11/wik09i/Mai13n08_04Page.06 (For 07the other kind o04f04 14eso13te05r05ica, 06try #esoteric on ir06c.dal.ne13t08.) < 1375781907 293545 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1375782043 81831 :desu__!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1375782200 376115 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375782297 491068 :desu__!~katla@unaffiliated/katla NICK :katla < 1375782869 298268 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1375783365 881019 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-218-142.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1375783523 587496 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375783948 553267 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375785295 729514 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Thank you for emailing GIGABYTE. We are delighted with your interest in our products. This is a known issue. Please contact Seagate technical support for latest firmware of Samsung HD105SI. (Seagate took over Samsung HDD business)." < 1375785305 276586 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, I might get my SYSTEM to WORK. < 1375785446 177832 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Samsung had a HDD business? < 1375785486 246308 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was a "brand" only, maybe? I don't know. < 1375785497 498480 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://knowledge.seagate.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/223631en "This patch code is released in order to solve the compatibilty problem between some motherboards (the AMD SB850 chipset and the Intel P67/H67 chipset) and Samsung-brand hard drives, F3 and F3EG models only." < 1375785501 960524 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. < 1375785520 388129 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I *did* search for updates before, but couldn't find any; only found this via some direct googling.) < 1375785615 727516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yow! < 1375785616 141561 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a little picture of ED MCMAHON doing BAD THINGS to JOAN RIVERS < 1375785616 393764 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a $200,000 MALIBU BEACH HOUSE!! < 1375785633 49788 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?????? < 1375785644 872280 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yow indeed < 1375785663 43475 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should remove that picture from the Malibu beach house. < 1375785674 214047 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Diagram_of_Hard_Disk_Drive_Manufacturer_Consolidation.svg < 1375785711 559938 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course I just installed an operating system on a different disk this morning. Now I need to decide whether it'll be faster to try moving and resizing it, or just reinstall. (Probably to reinstall.) < 1375785768 221736 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"List of defunct hard disk manufacturers" has an (unintentionally?) hilarious title. < 1375785778 509938 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Yeah, I'm not going to buy one of *those*." < 1375786213 263787 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1375786607 541066 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375786884 625982 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Client Quit < 1375786901 124610 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375788250 402212 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :``The equivalent of 'tar xf' is 'cpio -i -d -m' (BSD cpio) or 'cpio -i --make-directories --preserve-modification-time --no-absolute-filenames' (GNU cpio).'' < 1375788251 714303 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `The: not found < 1375788443 138285 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375788494 957637 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :--make-directories is -d and --preserve-modification-time is -m < 1375788527 148689 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use cpio -dim and don't extract weird cpio files < 1375788592 882877 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cpio -bright" < 1375788652 826596 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpio -mid if antonyms confuse you. < 1375789816 910929 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375790761 442515 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1375791180 749645 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1375791210 444018 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375792346 517577 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: "cpio -early" "cpio -late" (cf. http://sprunge.us/GNZF for refs). < 1375792404 20742 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, that's quite roundabout. < 1375792434 85398 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, "cpio -extreme" or some-such. < 1375792524 242801 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If related words confuse you then you're probably screwed anyway. < 1375792574 264600 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm easily confused. < 1375792627 361560 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll probably try to use unzip instead of cpio. < 1375792627 629417 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cpio -idm" -> Intelligent Dance Music -> most antonymical music subgenre -> cpio -something. < 1375792646 250614 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know what the opposite of IDM is.) < 1375792723 339968 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dumb Noise? < 1375792741 692399 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dumb Arythmic Noise < 1375792746 111122 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpio -dan < 1375792801 324321 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/hDFZ I was sort of not expecting to end up on a permanent announcement mailing list. < 1375792913 100321 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woot < 1375792921 63288 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375793054 491666 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375793413 305309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1375793834 973035 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375793857 67901 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375794095 566010 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1375795437 637241 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I used their bus once in June.) < 1375795463 915550 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In Summer? You are a loon!) < 1375795624 738710 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I mean, it was too long a walk. < 1375795647 608128 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. I'm glad we had this talk. < 1375795669 819203 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see what you did there. (But only just now.) < 1375795671 638322 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good fizzie-met-taneb morning! < 1375795688 919120 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome fizzie < 1375795691 439285 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13fizzie: Welcome to05 the international h07ub for esoteric pro14g04ramming lang07uage desig05n and deployment! F08or 10more informatio12n, chec06k o08ut our wik09i: http://10e10solan10gs.org/wiki14/08Main_04P05age. (For08 the other kind of esoteri07ca, try #09es04oteric on irc.da09l.n06et.06) < 1375795717 522317 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1375795813 705076 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a poetic flair. I'm glad there's no row. < 1375795980 465480 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought IDM was dumb arrhythmic noise < 1375796031 965721 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure that that's Chinese Water Torture < 1375796132 433056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is Taneb sounding like a markov bot < 1375796174 155670 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Except one that rhymes a lot. < 1375796174 614450 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've missed half the conversation and decided to reply in rhyme without logreading < 1375796180 125458 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Can you do poetry? < 1375796180 543901 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: black is white. up is down. their mysql backend must've crashed like three times, each time i run it < 1375796191 44195 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the answer is a resounding yes. < 1375796204 841561 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1375796205 104038 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1375796218 172949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very avant-garde < 1375796220 185364 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether that counts as poetry is anyone's guess. < 1375796233 226159 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style enron < 1375796233 490387 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: enron (subset of the Enron email dataset) < 1375796243 873848 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what's your best limerick? < 1375796244 424820 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: over the next two to the finish line. index 3 of the costs not covered. subject: attached you will find to be next one. < 1375796293 594282 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are too many people on this channel. let's group them according to their similarities! < 1375796295 441397 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style agora < 1375796296 188033 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: agora (a large selection of Agora rules, both current and historical) < 1375796301 904604 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tie-wraps Taneb onto fungot < 1375796302 309374 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: than the maximum hand size or pending draws for that board of appeals consists of three and fourteen days < 1375796306 862706 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1375796337 826873 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION duct tapes elliott to oerjan < 1375796349 334335 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I've clustered the people here a couple of times. < 1375796350 925080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm similar to elliott? < 1375796365 358520 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style lovecraft < 1375796365 624049 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: lovecraft (H. P. Lovecraft's writings) < 1375796373 266011 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, how do you feel? < 1375796375 282257 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: with bowers of vines and sweet blossoms, and seats and benches of marble and went down the steep slope that they might find men to whom he flung the remaining coil of fnord and after the crash there was nothing left standing in the street, swarthy, slender, and sinister with latent horror. hieroglyphics had covered the walls and windows shifted. nahum did not send her to the county asylum, but let her wander about the ho < 1375796398 782252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does not sound very healthy < 1375796415 280182 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nah. I just wanted to see what happens. you know. for pure scientific reasons. yeah. science. *whistles* < 1375796463 152695 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: For example, here are some #esoteric people projected to two dimensions: http://xn--nxa.zem.fi/~fis/esomapnz.png < 1375796478 601243 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woooooah... < 1375796488 205412 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my god, it's full of stars... < 1375796502 979438 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what are the axies? < 1375796522 13241 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: who is CADD? < 1375796531 786131 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: First two principal components from a... I think something 34-dimensional. < 1375796532 514100 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you can /whois me.. < 1375796544 546789 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: who be you? < 1375796567 833253 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: those are expectation-maximisation ellipses, yes? < 1375796599 895254 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that tells me a lot, lol < 1375796614 25330 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: They're maximum-likelihood ellipses for 2D gaussians. You don't need EM to fit single ones. < 1375796622 595266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION smells a lithuanian < 1375796628 906775 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right. my machine learning stuff is getting rusty. < 1375796631 380324 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: http://xn--nxa.zem.fi/~fis/esomap-comp.png here's the pre-projection variant, I think it will help. < 1375796631 685755 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: exactly < 1375796651 673690 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: excellent < 1375796669 373926 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: very interesting < 1375796688 807286 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all very simple textual features. (The word classes are cheats.) < 1375796719 876698 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is all contemplative and swoonish < 1375796720 856399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xn--nxa.zem.fi/~fis/esoconf.png and that's how well they work in a classifier. < 1375796743 434585 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: good catch, most people guess greek < 1375796746 112220 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course it was a p. easy task, with just those ten folks and giant blobs of text.) < 1375796784 754693 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you easily recreate your figures with current members? < 1375796793 942989 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375796810 503122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: yeah i thought greek for a second but something was off < 1375796812 506331 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: No, but I have a much better set of figures that also aren't easily recreatable. < 1375796820 363468 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: There's a SVM classifier and everything. < 1375796830 194601 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: (Sadly, I don't remember where I put them.) < 1375796866 775927 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you really went full force on that. I should get back on track with ML; those were fun times. < 1375796889 866258 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well with your last name im guessing you are somewhere in scandinavia < 1375796969 614596 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ML is great! you should join us in #machinelearning < 1375796977 907301 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'll tell you the story of the cheated word class features in these plots, it's sort of related. < 1375796981 402335 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Basically, anything that'd actually try some parsing would've been terribly slow and/or not much better than guessing, so I assigned each word a word class based on its wordnet entry; if the word had entries in several categories, I picked the one with the highest frequency in wordnet's tagged texts. < 1375796986 785888 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: So every instance of, say, "die", has been considered a verb. < 1375797019 539186 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't seem to find the newer plots. Possibly because I have a habit of naming files things like "blort4.png". (Cf. http://users.ics.aalto.fi/htkallas/blort4.png ) < 1375797079 719561 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: if I ever get back to academia, I'll name a figure “blort4” in your honour, and have a crappitude somewhere in the article. < 1375797112 427403 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't quite recall what's the proper name for the metric called "crappitude" in that graph. < 1375797141 364651 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's the average of within-class accuracy. < 1375797152 995516 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Distinct from accuracy if the classes are of non-uniform size.) < 1375797172 923980 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arguably it's a misleading name, because you want to have a high crappitude. < 1375797210 859682 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should create a graph of fizziliciousness < 1375797230 948343 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375797250 945470 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://users.ics.aalto.fi/htkallas/alise_vs_vorpal.png I have no idea whatsoever what's happening here, but it's certainly something #esoteric-related. < 1375797252 802638 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just a coincidence that fizzie and boily are both properties held by some liquids? < 1375797275 665805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: As far as you know. < 1375797278 154821 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, so's elliott < 1375797289 634901 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And HackEgo < 1375797298 796787 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is a liquid? < 1375797307 343892 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some liquids are elliott < 1375797321 527450 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, "That's some very elliott coffee" < 1375797321 782775 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stirs elliott with a spoon < 1375797341 284001 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thwacks Taneb with a not quite ripe banana < 1375797349 456423 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375797354 563605 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so, you can recognize us just by the words we use or...? < 1375797462 679442 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: With the features used above, only for a sufficiently (read: very) large sample. Otherwise there's too much noise in the statistics. (Since they're things like word length distributions and the like.) < 1375797493 470234 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, it doesn't really look at any words, except for the counts of particular things like classes of pronouns. < 1375797509 337466 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that also assumes that your language patterns dont drift either < 1375797524 96684 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i wonder what an optimal classifer of us would look like, one that actually used words as features < 1375797536 746389 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: i'm norwegian < 1375797551 792838 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: cool cool < 1375797604 775310 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Adversarial Stylometry: Circumventing Authorship Recognition to Preserve Privacy and Anonymity" -- https://psal.cs.drexel.edu/index.php/Main_Page -- was recently featured in /.. < 1375797625 109353 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You can use that to avoid being recognized on #esoteric.) < 1375797637 85313 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Possibly combining that with changing your nickname would be advisable, however.) < 1375797701 927291 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and perhaps with connecting from a different network than usual) < 1375797728 118504 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And possibly taking a bath first.) < 1375798199 834399 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375799409 156705 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375799908 906250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> not (3 < 5) < 1375799910 13608 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : False < 1375799980 609766 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat /dev/urandom >> lambdabot < 1375800020 848328 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once did `cat /dev/urandom` while connected via PuTTY < 1375800026 704401 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :PuTTY didn't really like it < 1375800027 987881 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1375800354 148256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1375802008 125311 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval not (3 < 5) < 1375802010 774945 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): < 1375802012 402031 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval not (3 < 5) < 1375802014 204602 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :False < 1375802101 633631 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375802142 40816 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375802313 789360 :augur!~augur@74.174.236.84 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375802337 540225 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval (35 > 2) < 1375802337 967714 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): :1:3: lexical error at character '\SYN' < 1375802443 783718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :go and syn no more < 1375802460 356086 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1375802522 415975 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1375802535 814678 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCC0E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1375802613 456496 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: what are you trying to do exactly, you vile elliotty bot abuser? < 1375802635 467157 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm experimenting < 1375802641 654150 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some bots strip control codes < 1375802647 132393 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like this bot doesn't =P < 1375803370 46189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1375803808 445674 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am making a boot floppy, in 2013. < 1375804192 670240 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1375804194 161336 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The Samsung drive flash utility only works from DOS, and does not work in the computer that can't see the drives, so I had to use an old desktop from the closet, and it's too stupid to boot from USB and I don't want to waste a CD-R.) < 1375804194 412342 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice =)< < 1375804201 91805 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1375804207 743383 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the flash utility was too big to fit on a floppy (1.7M). < 1375804225 315641 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately the computer in question was new enough to support USB storage emulation, even if it doesn't boot from one. < 1375804480 949663 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375804784 141241 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1375804875 810091 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi everybody < 1375804901 235967 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375804936 482760 :augur!~augur@74.174.236.84 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375804952 865127 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Heya < 1375805512 681692 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: awesome < 1375805554 27910 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :reflashing hard drives is always a party < 1375805574 542504 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked it when Samsung released a fix for a critical data loss issue but didn't bother bumping the version number, so you couldn't tell if your drives had it already < 1375806064 397570 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reflash made the drive appear and work everywhere else, except that Windows 8 setup utility says Windows cannot be installed on it because "the system may not support booting from it", or some-such. < 1375806083 671408 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same applies to the SSD, but not the two disks reserved for Linux use. < 1375806273 574354 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1375806281 367648 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there anything unusual about these drives < 1375806452 169940 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375807192 684629 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, apparently none of the shader code I ever wrote compiles with Mesa ): < 1375807283 346076 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, got it to work by making all integer constants into float constants < 1375807461 889192 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375807511 825776 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means just putting a whole lot of decimal points all over the place < 1375807679 71501 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1375808013 515346 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375808593 123565 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it great how every renderer implements a slightly different shader language < 1375808627 347828 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yes" < 1375808841 236348 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define "yes" maybe < 1375808850 69487 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bret Victor - The Future of Programming http://vimeo.com/71278954 < 1375808914 191143 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? yes < 1375808915 697397 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1375808915 980468 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          | < 1375808916 226023 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        º¯`\o < 1375808943 19290 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should really switch to a monospaced font >_> < 1375809154 66723 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as you're not using papyrus, I guess everything's fine. < 1375809167 622651 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or maybe papyrus is the secret to understanding fungot?) < 1375809168 375535 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i talked with the policemen, seemed at first as perplexed as armitage and his companions ride on fnord or in fnord chariots. carter and his guide climbed up an alley that was all they ever did was clutch and fly and fnord that was not of < 1375809211 976525 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1375809394 137707 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a monospace version of comic sans? < 1375809486 162883 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: don't you write code in comic sans? < 1375809487 384279 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i soon found that it slipped from sight as quickly as i had never before been an extravagant dreamer. many of these took lodgings in the battered houses that had once known the songs of iranon. but though the dreaded martenses were gone, whilst most of the fine scroll-and-urn overmantels and fnord cupboard fnord were gone, pabodie, sherman, ropes, sherman, and the < 1375809517 78833 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :!style c64 < 1375809519 554792 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I guess that counts as avoiding the subject < 1375809609 116088 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style c64 < 1375809609 396031 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: c64 (C64 programming material) < 1375809621 205570 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: pabodie, sherman. sherman. sherman. sherman. < 1375809621 766704 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: if not impossible. if the msb of the video matrix and character dot-data area to act as the current status of that register, switch in the mob-mob collision bit for each sprite can be used < 1375809888 400038 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1375809888 688016 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64* ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1375809903 153731 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style nethack < 1375809903 399638 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: nethack (NetHack 3.4.3 data.base, rumors.tru, rumors.fal) < 1375809914 6020 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: GO! =P < 1375809914 284676 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: looking glass, mirror: " if you don't need any help from the silver mountain, while he was born from the cave; the ferocious fear the only good djinni is a long-drawn-out affair. fresh whole tripe calls for a good talisman if handled right. < 1375809919 672299 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1375809920 787527 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1375809921 624541 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1375810019 95146 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't played Djinni yet; I'm still waiting for 0.13 to be out of trunk. < 1375810390 860011 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :error: mismatched types: expected `u32` but found `uint` (expected uint but found u32) < 1375810645 74969 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: advice: dont < 1375810714 474590 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, but... all I wanted is to die in new creative ways... won't djinni even offer me that simple pleasure? < 1375810743 392033 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Turns out that creating partitions on the disk and then restarting the installer made it consider the disk kosher. < 1375810775 815949 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had put an empty GPT disklabel on it, and I guess that was maybe too confusing? < 1375810862 830518 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375811147 774668 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:21:04 The reflash made the drive appear and work everywhere else, except that Windows 8 setup utility says Windows cannot be installed on it because "the system may not support booting from it", or some-such. < 1375811159 15159 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this means "it's GPT but I'm not sure you have EFI" < 1375811170 104175 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows only supports booting GPT from EFI < 1375811268 152818 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had already set the bios to UEFI-only boot. < 1375811280 801492 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess it could've been just confuzzled. < 1375811508 392290 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375811554 124704 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: "set the bios to UEFI-only" < 1375811708 463619 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes? I didn't want to boot in legacy mode by accident. < 1375811782 364090 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is this the thing where uefi is a replacement for bios < 1375811806 577750 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375811840 346444 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was holding off trying to think of a good analogy to describe my reaction to that statement but failed < 1375811842 783984 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit. I have sacramental bread stuck to my lips. < 1375811847 239038 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow. < 1375811863 293768 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Is it still sacramental bread, or is it already Jesus? < 1375811866 314561 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dare I ask why < 1375811906 257970 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: no jesus yet. < 1375811912 281970 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you may dare. < 1375812202 837875 :gsteinbrenner!~gsteinbre@74.121.38.200 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375812226 705465 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome gsteinbrenner < 1375812229 220172 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04gsteinbrenn13er: Welcome11 to the 04interna06tion04al hub for eso09teric programming language de08s11ig02n 13and deployment! 03For more inf13ormation, ch03eck out12 our 11wiki: http://11e11solangs.org10/wiki08/Main_Pag12e. (F09o11r the other k14i09nd 11of esoteric09a, try 07#esot12e10ri10c on irc.dal.net.) < 1375812249 960651 :gsteinbrenner!~gsteinbre@74.121.38.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi all < 1375812252 507998 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I have no dares < 1375812255 278303 :gsteinbrenner!~gsteinbre@74.121.38.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel seems promising < 1375812263 586648 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1375812316 425636 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1375812336 872522 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: huh, I would think that to make a disk kosher you would have to cover it in salt and bury it for two weeks < 1375812344 471214 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, the truth is that a colleague has «retailles d'hosties» on his desk (you can get them for very cheap at grocery stores). these things are evil, and become like glue if you let them on your lips for too long. < 1375812347 580401 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :D < 1375812348 724270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1375812357 682028 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, those =P < 1375812365 417286 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't taste like anything though < 1375812368 391570 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why even have them < 1375812397 898338 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were there, and I was hungry. < 1375812422 59726 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: read that as computer disk < 1375812424 663091 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can recommend the experience < 1375812435 694911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a joke on what fizzie said < 1375812439 229011 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1375812442 736780 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: sure, I could have had a banana, but our new batch's morphogenic field is already too weak, and I don't like pears. < 1375812443 527420 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't actually look at what fizzie said though < 1375812446 526994 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's okay < 1375812447 55937 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good job elliott < 1375812450 438734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :team player < 1375812456 207719 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: he was talking about some disk problem before, I think < 1375812508 993958 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Est-ce qu'on parle des mêmes bananes? o_0 < 1375812516 188645 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1375812524 164939 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Joke de banane molle < 1375812526 191194 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got it < 1375812527 885602 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevermind < 1375812535 28042 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome soft banana < 1375812537 525192 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​05so09ft:06 ban02ana: Wel08co11me to12 14t04he international hub for esoter11ic 08progr03amming languag10e design and deploy03ment! For more informatio13n14, 12check out our wiki: h07ttp://esolangs.o03rg/w03iki/Main_Page. (02For the other ki11nd of esoteric04a06, try #e06sote13ri04c 04on irc.dal.net.) < 1375812549 335133 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat dog < 1375812551 89156 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: dog: No such file or directory < 1375812555 328414 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375812556 838189 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /dev/urandom < 1375812558 6035 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​knCvkjxqc1}K*hOgiӸ@4۸j0r˭S 9"Ѿ!\EZX < 1375812565 306705 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's it? < 1375812566 106273 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good < 1375812591 378079 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1375812592 817289 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​_E%ntC\ \ ?+)i/}G_<",b < 1375812599 466118 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1375812624 609331 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Cthulhu < 1375812626 994604 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04Cthulhu13:11 Welcome t09o t06he 12int05e11rnational h07ub fo14r esoteric programm12ing lan07guage design a10n08d depl12oyment! For more informati11o05n, check out our 10wiki: http://08e09solangs12.06o04rg/12wiki/Main_Page. (For the o03ther11 04kind of14 esoterica, tr02y #esot04er09ic on irc.06d08al.net.) < 1375812629 335178 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1375812632 568881 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's not permanent < 1375812634 861191 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's nice < 1375812709 266675 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, sounds like we have some thunder rolling in < 1375812715 506826 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice, nice < 1375812794 501042 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love `? ngevd < 1375812844 977624 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the many high points of `? < 1375813083 638243 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1375813084 60417 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 061800Z 21010KT 30SM FEW040 BKN240 24/12 A3007 RMK CU1CI5 SLP182 DENSITY ALT 1000FT < 1375813101 302498 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: where were you, again? < 1375813115 36917 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1375813125 660804 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is that output so hard to parse? =P < 1375813137 10926 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, does `? ngevd always put out garbage? < 1375813137 960925 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1375813139 651213 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​yuݴl*yqyhqfj#qL'>L|9\2)_O < 1375813142 588201 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1375813146 399770 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ? < 1375813148 90341 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? is wisdom < 1375813161 474589 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a way, I guess =P < 1375813182 176615 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? !echo `? < 1375813183 199991 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: METARs are for airplane pilots, with a (not quite, in fact far from it) standard format. < 1375813183 673323 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!echo `?? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1375813184 244807 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                | < 1375813184 526648 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              º¯`\o < 1375813196 240870 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :!echo Hats < 1375813197 909803 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ESSL < 1375813198 431848 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hats < 1375813198 651706 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSL 061750Z 16006KT 9999NDV SHRA SCT025CB 20/19 Q1011 < 1375813208 882165 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, SHRA! lucky you! < 1375813210 902800 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Oh, cool =) < 1375813293 850082 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does 9999NDV mean? < 1375813301 193373 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :first time I see that. < 1375813341 119527 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“No Direction Variable”. < 1375813370 801781 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :another source cites “No Direction Visibility”. < 1375813382 614844 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, standards < 1375813506 344329 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: 9999 means “don't even think about being bothered about ground visibility” and NDV is “and if you're thinking of it, direction doesn't matter”. hth. < 1375813788 891182 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: thanks, I'm not so worried about the visibility now < 1375813821 967562 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how humidity seems to be recorded in dewpoint temperature rather than e.g. humidity < 1375813852 133298 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now, we're at 47.0%. < 1375813951 795004 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're at 94.0%. I think it's pouring outside. < 1375814021 105487 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not actually raining now, just ominously rainylooking < 1375814060 349634 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at which distance are you from ESSL? < 1375814074 148926 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :20 minutes or so < 1375814081 870944 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hichaf < 1375814110 187234 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: by car? < 1375814170 509627 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :by foot! < 1375814204 634177 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're probably in northern linköping. how much do you weigh? < 1375814239 158170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc < 1375814249 128625 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1375814250 389367 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-67-103.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375814252 445195 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's it going? < 1375814311 76879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my sleeping is back to being kind of messed up :'( < 1375814323 495926 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was waking up at ~7 for a while, it was nice < 1375814378 765111 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been waking up around 07:30 but failing to actually get out of bed until like 08:10 < 1375814379 130442 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-200-199.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375814382 258577 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I'll put you on Norrköpingsvägen in my file. < 1375814400 986690 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that kind of schedule would be fine with me < 1375814416 139075 :desu__!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1375814423 116867 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome desu__ < 1375814425 458790 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02d08esu__: Welcome to 02the in06ternational 11hub for11 esoteric 14programming langua10ge04 design 05and deplo04ym09en07t! For more 10in12formation, check o06ut our wiki08: http:07//05es05olang02s.org/w14iki/Main_Page. (For10 the other kind of06 eso07terica, try 05#es10oteric on12 irc.dal.net.) < 1375814431 604626 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375814454 545648 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome sacje < 1375814456 943480 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08sacje: Welcome 07to11 the in04ternational h08ub07 for esoteric 09programming l08a13n14guage d12esign an13d deployment! 02For m07ore11 information, 14ch09eck out our09 wiki: 02h10tt12p://e09so13langs.org/03w08iki/Main_P14age. (06Fo12r th14e other kind of esoterica,11 try #esoteric on irc.dal.net13.)10 < 1375814476 545301 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet PRIVMSG #esoteric :why thank you Roujo < 1375814495 46905 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'relcome ^^ < 1375814522 188779 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Have you considered the many advantages of a seven-letter nick? < 1375814531 627854 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you'd be much better off with one. < 1375814556 190475 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1375814566 793292 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: don't listen to that unorthodox heretic. 5 is the way to godliness. < 1375814605 232458 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Meh. I'm aither named Roujo or Skynet, really. < 1375814611 611143 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: still going on about that? < 1375814614 822739 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Gilnaur/Feyllin in games. < 1375814619 506391 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But never on IRC < 1375814620 661862 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1375814660 925033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: you can keep your five-letter nick < 1375814725 711378 :desu__!~katla@unaffiliated/katla NICK :katla < 1375814731 137451 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-200-199.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375814751 633606 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: So, advantages, you say? Do tell. < 1375814847 810620 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-243.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375815084 847399 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375815511 471268 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCC0E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 22.0/2013062200] < 1375815773 440211 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375815830 821502 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-243.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375816016 270163 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, so according to this speaker voice they were going to reveal "the identity of the 12th doctor" < 1375816050 463221 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375816153 14720 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375816156 65227 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1375816223 377122 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This partition is formatted with the ntfs." Oh debian-installer, you so funny. < 1375816536 135111 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should participate in the IOCCC but I have no ideas :( < 1375816578 52939 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm perusing the crawl sources through gitk, and I stumbled upon a commit about “nooodl-y vaults (#7353)”. < 1375816579 819030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: maybe you should participate in icfpc < 1375816583 716293 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that from our own nooodl? < 1375816590 661444 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i do that? i have 4 hours to decide < 1375816594 830877 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yes < 1375816599 851224 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: :D < 1375816609 771948 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm in CREDITS.txt, too! < 1375816609 987299 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :icfp always seems so boring to me < 1375816625 960195 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :all for making some crappy vaults < 1375816627 781435 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont unerstand how people can bear playing it < 1375816629 234289 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: when is it? < 1375816645 458220 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :icfpc? < 1375816646 139846 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: In 52 hours or so. < 1375816648 311526 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the elliotts are also me < 1375816652 99185 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I am nooodl) < 1375816658 176947 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Registration deadline is 48 hours before. < 1375816680 59740 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you enter without registering? < 1375816683 119152 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1375816705 533524 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ties ellioerjan to nooodl with hemp rope < 1375816710 753893 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To participate in the contest you need to pre-register with EasyChair. The pre-registration will close 72 hours prior to the contest, so register now." < 1375816738 708928 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You need to pre-register for the contest, 48 hours prior (extended from 72h) to the contest at the latest." < 1375816742 608886 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :difficultchair < 1375816751 317641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this year's contest will involve an element of program synthesis" < 1375816792 872139 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :im kind of interested but i know ill give up as soon as i see the actual problem set :/ < 1375816880 830026 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are they using what appears to be a system for submitting papers? < 1375816919 612324 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they're part of ICFP. < 1375816925 971225 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And probably just inherited the system from that. < 1375817035 428106 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think this system was used before? I don't know. < 1375817203 566043 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone paste me the challenge once its released < 1375817214 858289 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe itll be an annoyig one where you have to submit to test your code < 1375817220 469242 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I enter the ICFPC? I'd probably suck at it < 1375817230 258968 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should enter if you're going to seriously try < 1375817267 111130 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be a solo project by a bored teenager against teams of professionals possibly < 1375817293 988164 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :professional icfpc competitor < 1375817306 38809 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1375817425 178978 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1375817430 238798 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What challenge is that? Does it involve submitting a paper? < 1375817433 180629 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Fix a Kirke crash by deporkalating transiting hogs correctly.” :D < 1375817464 830198 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: No, it involves writing a programs. < 1375817499 238583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Examples: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICFP_Programming_Contest#Past_tasks < 1375817521 828325 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the program is written in WEB then you can submit a papers too, though? < 1375817544 529653 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want. < 1375817559 891932 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What programming languages do they use? And it says "what appears to be a system for submitting papers" so is it a system for submitting papers or not? < 1375817561 430485 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once the contest is finished, a few teams will be asked to submit two page document describing their solutions to be considered for the judges prize. < 1375817580 690810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a system which was designed for submitting papers but instead it's used for registering your team for the contest. < 1375817769 852844 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you have something like a team to register yourself with? < 1375817770 789242 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375817781 528681 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need a team? < 1375817793 168466 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've just registered as an individual < 1375817802 539244 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's teams or individuals < 1375817814 980458 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Me? No. < 1375817824 688626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I will probably not do the contest. < 1375817870 500418 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, so you are using a system designed for something else. It seems also like how registration for Z-Comp uses a system designed for a MUD (to enter Z-Comp, you register an account on ifMUD, and then go into my apartment, and then go northwest, and then fill up the forms in that room; but first you have to calculate the SHA-1 hash of your entry before filling up the forms). < 1375817920 230981 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: where is your apartment? < 1375817933 649958 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: The apartment number is 11011 < 1375817934 892616 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: NihilistDandy < 1375817944 442295 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1375817993 328747 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Free [] almost represents S-expressions < 1375818001 49270 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I mean, IRL, unless if 11011 is already irly, then it's fine. I was subtly trying to subvertly extract your approximate coördinates. < 1375818012 949274 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It has no location IRL. < 1375818030 619960 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you want my approximate coordinates the best thing you can do is by the IP address.) < 1375818054 449402 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What about your (approximate?) body weigh? < 1375818066 739343 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't figure it out recently and I don't want to tell to you. < 1375818167 819445 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Delta, BC? < 1375818180 920122 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yes, that's close enough. < 1375818361 109246 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know my ifMUD apartment has three floors, and the top one is rotating? < 1375818538 190083 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you are tempting me with your mud talk. < 1375818847 40471 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The temple is so bright, that I install a darkness generator, so that it is a bit less bright. < 1375819037 662891 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I understand it, ifMUD is like minecraft? < 1375819059 780030 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so. < 1375819093 587031 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You look (you can connect as a guest if you do not want to registration) < 1375819103 620897 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is ifmud.org port 4000 < 1375819390 941848 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375819565 723321 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375819627 82070 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375819751 491023 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how do I reach your apartment? < 1375819778 331406 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375819787 3475 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375819797 392427 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: The closest place you can teleport to is #20080. (Type '@teleport #20080') < 1375819801 562176 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then type 11011 to enter. < 1375819870 512030 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :slime? bletch! < 1375820036 363655 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this I wrote some messages in side of there < 1375820055 691625 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds interesting. < 1375820099 908535 :gsteinbrenner!~gsteinbre@74.121.38.200 QUIT :Quit: gsteinbrenner < 1375820300 964413 :pqh!~paulhodge@74.121.38.200 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375820483 681647 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was fun! < 1375820513 412496 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you write 'finger zzo38' then you can see my plan contains a quine. < 1375820571 572264 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The @print command in JotaCode is for concatenating strings; it doesn't actually print anything. < 1375820883 692676 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ping < 1375820883 972469 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pong! < 1375820931 432644 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JotaCode feels very esoteric... < 1375820963 94321 :pqh_!~paulhodge@fw-px.shutterfly.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375820965 963480 :pqh!~paulhodge@74.121.38.200 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375820966 242753 :pqh_!~paulhodge@fw-px.shutterfly.com NICK :pqh < 1375820983 222636 :pqh!~paulhodge@fw-px.shutterfly.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1375821259 352863 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1375821417 105772 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how reliable are those sound-of-keyboard attacks? I wonder if you could use that to make a wireless keyboard by just disconnecting your keyboard and connecting a microphone < 1375821447 203018 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone here in boston? < 1375821458 569862 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :careful of pianists who drum their keyboards! < 1375821522 703020 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I think kmc is in boston. otherwise, the closest person is jsvine in NYC. < 1375821540 473095 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc moved to caliland < 1375821574 33528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's correct < 1375821596 34109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk is in Boston and copumpkin is in connecticut < 1375821599 945770 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but neither is in this channel :< < 1375821627 639118 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: looking at your nëw coördinates, the closest member is Fiora. < 1375821637 193491 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do any of you ever go in to Victoria, BC sometimes? < 1375821643 83772 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375821651 743546 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's nobody else in SF? < 1375821652 804546 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you must not have coördinates from shachaf or Gracenotes then < 1375821653 563456 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure zzo38 goes there most of the time < 1375821655 30002 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin used to be here, did he leave or is he just intermittent? < 1375821667 423888 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or douglass_ or iamfishhead) < 1375821694 63647 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask edwardk hi wanna be friends in boston < 1375821694 300646 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1375821705 513829 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also wasn't somebody here a MIT student? Vorpal? < 1375821708 763891 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I completely imagining that? < 1375821741 445507 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: indeed. I don't have Gracenotes yet, and shachaf is the current Unchallenged Champion of Not Wanting to be Coördinated. < 1375821751 223437 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375821800 994379 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375821808 588857 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's a few hours north of me, i gues < 1375821884 104935 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: can I get your approximate coördinates and body weigh? as a bonus, you'll be the first entry in my file! < 1375821907 824856 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? megalun < 1375821909 934196 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :megalun is a chain of a million SCSI devices. FreeFull weighs 482 of them. < 1375821934 563795 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :45 north, 122 west, 200 lbs. < 1375821944 653985 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I would like to go to Vancouver sometime and maybe I would go to Victoria as well < 1375821968 334034 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have a passport so i gues canading would be hard < 1375821974 623882 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should fix that < 1375821978 394050 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: thanks! < 1375822015 274192 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canading is plenty worth it. you'll get to meet nice people, eat nice and healthy Canadian food, and enjoy the local scenery and mooses! < 1375822027 53928 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we get moose here anyway. < 1375822089 783584 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nedroid.com/2011/05/passport/ also < 1375822096 574255 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but our mooses are the most authenticest there is. < 1375822173 946175 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nedroid.com/2013/05/oh-canada/ boily. < 1375822241 546017 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU LIE! < 1375822269 815161 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we... uhm... we don't have any fascination whatsoever to funnels. yes. we don't. right. no funnels. < 1375822306 105108 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: you don't have any funnels on you, do you? in fact, you don't even know what a funnel is? < 1375822311 134868 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION *wink* *wink* < 1375822332 712772 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sm;oth < 1375822366 593769 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck sm;oth < 1375822366 874697 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1375822382 340664 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: look, funnel! < 1375822403 184865 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION twitches underneath his "poker" face < 1375822597 304937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1375822881 765755 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375823009 134622 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: FUNNELS! < 1375823014 245732 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375823027 185615 :neena!~neena@codesurfers.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1375823335 86088 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375823338 514829 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody want to add fundeps to Rust < 1375823341 795568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would really make my day < 1375823441 623638 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't know Rust had something fundeps could be applied to < 1375823469 305671 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, should I learn Rust? is that a good idea or anything? < 1375823469 505621 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375823498 265208 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rust is the wave of the future, imo, < 1375823633 667273 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it kind of accidentally sort of has multi-parameter typeclasses < 1375823693 86653 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has single-parameter "traits" which are like typeclasses, but you can also parametrize a trait on other type variables (like parametrizing a struct or a function) < 1375823702 295491 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could say that Foo implements trait Bar < 1375823713 286562 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is like a 3-param typeclass except that the Foo location is still special in some ways < 1375823716 290045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda gross imo < 1375823721 86327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess Java interfaces + generics are like this too? < 1375823761 861873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, public class Node> < 1375823793 236966 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Rust is a cool and unique language; I suggest learning some stuff about it < 1375823813 876110 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually writing and maintaining a library or something could be painful because the language still changes a huge amount every week < 1375823844 317238 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCC0E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1375823850 277503 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375823921 737059 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375824330 756500 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust actually looks at what has been happening in the programming language world < 1375824333 616759 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike Go < 1375824376 177361 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1375824397 805928 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they aren't really in the same niche either < 1375824470 756267 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go uses garbage collection for everything, which is fine for many applications, but we already have Java, C#, Haskell, OCaml, Python, Ruby, JavaScript, etc. < 1375824495 966444 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust is a replacement for C++, which almost nobody else is seriously attempting < 1375824523 676879 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the replacement for C? < 1375824560 256782 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you know I should say "Rust is aiming to become a viable replacement for C++ years from now" < 1375824609 527300 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see Go as Java, simplified even further, with syntax weird enough that the "C is h4rdc0re" crowd will accept it < 1375824623 267240 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does have some things going (ha!) for it, though < 1375824785 346596 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@MVPoliceBlotter "Man wearing Google Glass breaks window after walking into it while watching YouTube on El Camino Real near Calderon Ave." < 1375824785 546672 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1375824854 927301 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375824934 967538 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know if they are making a replacement of C as well or only of C++? There are some variants of C which are mostly C, such as Cyclone, Objective-C, and Black-C, but do they do it differently? < 1375824961 607225 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hi < 1375824976 77270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1375825005 887568 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are you < 1375825056 57702 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :desk 7115, 2 Harrison St., San Francisco, CA 94110, United States of America < 1375825064 407028 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did see the macro system in Rust seems like it does a lot of things. < 1375825108 198047 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa. what a coincidence. that's where i launched the ICBM < 1375825120 408776 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1375825194 527903 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1375825196 847609 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to get kicked from ##c++ for telling them to use Rust won't i < 1375825214 416670 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :telling ##c++ to use rust sounds like a good idea < 1375825225 287160 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly even better than being in ##c++ to begin with < 1375825229 337778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh no you're like those people who come into #haskell :'( < 1375825232 907029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1375825239 407711 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do actually answer C++ qusetions though < 1375825243 587343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe correctly < 1375825329 410518 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1375825414 488024 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1375825609 607439 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the standard workarounds for lack of fundeps anyway < 1375825666 308181 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375825694 207414 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, does anyone know a good linux distro for an idiot with a netbook. because my ubuntu is really not cutting it < 1375825696 647689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of type annotations hth < 1375825710 348054 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ubuntu with not gnome < 1375825715 437401 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :xubuntu or whatever < 1375825717 997955 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i'm using now :( < 1375825719 677843 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kubuntu < 1375825720 377850 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1375825723 18853 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1375825723 219097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well whats not cutting it < 1375825740 769272 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the main problem, i don't even know if it's ubuntu really < 1375825754 820143 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: check for a Canonical Genuine Ubuntu sticker < 1375825763 127542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : anyway, soon enough C++ will be The Haskell Done Right and all rusts and haskells will be irrelevant < 1375825771 138162 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my wireless cuts out at random intervals and i can't figure out a way to recover that doesn't involve restarting my computer (which is irritating) < 1375825786 767890 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i can't for the life of me figure out what the fuck is happening, there's a lot of closed issues in linux-wireless and ugh < 1375825791 871897 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I doubt it. < 1375825804 907899 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Does rmmod-modprobe work as a workaround instead of restarting? < 1375825808 427593 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1375825826 857996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's yer kernel version? < 1375825827 387940 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason i'm irritated at ubuntu is, in concert with this, the last upgrade whatever made it so that it waits /two whole minutes/ every boot to get a nonexistent network configuration < 1375825835 807777 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be you can get a newer kernel from a PPA or something < 1375825838 568427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does dmesg say anything good? < 1375825839 48062 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just edited an /etc to fix that particular issue but i'm not liking where this is going < 1375825852 118309 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i can paste the dmesg if you want < 1375825857 808337 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: um how do i check (see: idiot) < 1375825863 297824 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uname -r < 1375825873 7729 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm no expert on debugging wireless things < 1375825874 785356 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.2.0-48-generic < 1375825910 698987 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used some backported driver i don't understand to make it fail every few minutes instead of every few seconds, but bluh < 1375825971 148064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo give up and weep hth < 1375825975 38057 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :been doing that. < 1375825989 58650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the giving up part apparently < 1375826004 358287 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dmesg is like Failed to wakeup in 500us // Failed to stop TX DMA! // DMA failed to stop in 10 ms AR_CR=0xffffffff AR_DIAG_SW=0xffffffff DMADBG_7=0xffffffff and then keeps on going like that forever < 1375826037 770792 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm reasonably sure this is far beyond my ken and just want it to stop :( < 1375826040 37863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=137643 < 1375826043 189813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There were lots of fixes to ath9k recently. So I suggest you try compat-wireless or the latest kernel, which currently is 3.3-rc7" < 1375826050 329654 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's what your backported driver is, though? < 1375826055 786666 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i can try getting compat-wireless again. < 1375826056 208120 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe try the latest kernel anyway < 1375826088 678913 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That particular post is from over a year ago. < 1375826108 88604 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. i know. i've googled around and gotten lots of stuff like that. < 1375826125 268067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure. < 1375826129 28287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So did you try a new kernel yet? < 1375826135 753351 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme see. < 1375826143 188932 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :give up and buy http://www.amazon.com/Edimax-EW-7811Un-Wireless-Adapter-Wizard/dp/B003MTTJOY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1375826132&sr=8-1&keywords=usb+wifi+adapter < 1375826151 648727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe did you try the nohwcrypt=1 thing? < 1375826155 870918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except the driver for that might also suck < 1375826168 708864 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have one like this working very well ,but not with in-tree drivers < 1375826178 38441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :could dig up the exact part number and the driver tarball I used, if desired < 1375826192 848648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a usb wireless adapter you're free to take if you stop by < 1375826195 308950 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i tried the nohwcrypt at some point... yes it's still there. < 1375826223 500722 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now excuse me while i try to figure out how to get a new kernel through apt < 1375826224 58883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe that's what's causing the problems!! < 1375826244 978614 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: look for a PPA < 1375826258 268530 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's one called kernel-ppa < 1375826265 798939 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's a good one < 1375826352 88574 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been thinking of moving away from ubuntu anyway, though. i don't use gnome (or other default things like NetworkManager) and all the wiki instructions assume i do, and stuff like that. < 1375826357 340196 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my system is really frankenstein and shitty. < 1375826443 618811 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm glad you don't use gnome and NetworkManager < 1375826461 808414 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375826470 798859 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi bicyclidine < 1375826479 259194 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered running your irc client on a server somewhere < 1375826496 358384 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, here we go, I could just use my phone for everything! V_V < 1375826498 239036 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You use irssi anyway, it seems. < 1375826498 438937 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1375826511 678922 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: idiot, lazy, etc. < 1375826541 558792 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: when unity came out i was still using gnome, and i was all like huh, it's for netbooks? maybe this is for me! and then i tried it and all the 3d gobledegook made it unusable on my integrated graphics card :D < 1375826542 958700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* boily ties ellioerjan to nooodl with hemp rope <-- this is starting to get kinky hth < 1375826559 678400 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: That's why I'm telling you to do it! < 1375826589 429066 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i'm a stupid idiot? < 1375826607 366841 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Because you're lazy, so you need encouragement. < 1375826630 421743 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. well, i'd need a server first. i don't think i'd really use a linode or whatever. < 1375826736 888963 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kind of like just disconnecting when i'm not online instead of making a computer spin when i don't need it. it only gets annoying when i disconnect for stupidly having to restart, and uch. < 1375826790 478187 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo trick someone into letting you use their server < 1375826799 959459 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried that but elliott is also lazy. < 1375826809 414880 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375826832 860225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered all the other possibilities < 1375826852 669930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the free ec2 thing kmc talks about?? < 1375826876 689519 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think what shachaf is trying to say is that he's got a server that he'd like you to use. ;) < 1375827003 440480 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently you need a credit card for AWS even if you're only using free stuff. so that's cool < 1375827020 419611 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375827054 680181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can trick other people (not me though!!) < 1375827083 319796 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like kmc or monotone or Fiora < 1375827085 335458 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know < 1375827100 919561 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i can buy things from amazon without a credit card, but can't not buy things, i guess. < 1375827188 309530 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if you can use a prepaid debit card < 1375827188 871918 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375827204 209212 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i buy stuff on amazon with a debit card. < 1375827209 771021 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if you can use someone else's credit card. < 1375827217 879475 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you can sign up for AWS with a debit card < 1375827219 319239 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did that < 1375827223 289584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a credit card < 1375827230 139595 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375827236 529207 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny how people get really agitated when I say that I don't have a credit card < 1375827245 529517 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have one either...? < 1375827246 510382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and start listing all the advantages as though surely I'm just unaware of them < 1375827249 942918 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my debit card is a visa so it's the same thing < 1375827257 141519 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's not < 1375827267 920949 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're made of PLASTIC, kmc. you're missing out < 1375827276 59708 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can finally stop bartering with ducks and gooses < 1375827284 130076 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have much that a goose wants, anyway < 1375827290 469990 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some bread I guess < 1375827295 359882 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay okay, unlike a credit card, the APR is 0% :P < 1375827366 451003 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a credit card, and the APR is 0%. < 1375827374 490003 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-73-51.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375827378 871935 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mostly use my credit card for online transactions. My bank lets me generate one-off numbers, which is handy for beating back my paranoia. < 1375827383 621308 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-73-51.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i gues i can do that. < 1375827391 939646 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, one-off credit card numbers? that's kind of cool < 1375827394 270082 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's been configurated to pay 100% of the thing every month, and it has no monthly fixed payment.) < 1375827405 999687 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-73-51.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean god knows they've already gotten hundreds of dollars out of that card < 1375827411 30245 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-71.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1375827416 149572 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-73-51.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375827424 790850 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-51.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe at school i'll get a bit of server space to use < 1375827444 860480 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would host Bike's IRC except I don't trust myself to not abuse my root powers < 1375827445 61028 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only noticeable issue: they keep sending letters every now and then about how it'd be much more "flexible" if I changed the minimum-payment amount to something that's less than 100%. < 1375827448 40334 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also handy for when stored numbers get compromised. As has happened to me before. < 1375827485 169861 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-51.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: one time at a party a friend and i swapped ircs for the hell of it < 1375827512 442385 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-51.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i'm actually unsure of what i would use a credit card for < 1375827560 479600 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Running up massive quantities of debt? < 1375827568 229638 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-51.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess if i wanted to pay for something before i had a paycheck? < 1375827620 789582 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, depending on the card you can get little niceties like cash back on certain transactions or whatever. < 1375827777 230692 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375827875 386763 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-51.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375827932 751693 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1375827950 100765 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375828011 9775 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375828160 442219 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, this is cool. if i call a number on the landline the internet cuts out, but if i call on my cellphone - which, out here, uses the wi-fi - internet's fine. < 1375828164 191191 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible i'm in robot hell? < 1375828208 982068 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: did you get those dsl thingies < 1375828257 116854 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1375828268 131172 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you really not have filters on your phone sockets? < 1375828275 585961 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :those come with the modem I think < 1375828309 990492 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm just o bad with computers.. so bad. in twenty years i'm going to be like the CS professor who doesn't know what version control is < 1375828360 501062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: imo get the filters < 1375828367 451103 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise you might get internet cancer < 1375828370 741224 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm moving out this week. < 1375828372 451009 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well you get that anyway) < 1375828374 910992 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1375828376 34367 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :To CA? < 1375828387 347573 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Northern CA. The part not in CA. < 1375828388 471256 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the filters are important because diesel internet makes a lot of toxic fumes < 1375828425 467523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "who needs landlines anyway" -- norwegian telenor < 1375828426 90985 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh where in northern ca? < 1375828428 182514 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Oh, no, Medford, OR? :-( < 1375828436 871335 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :slightly north of medford < 1375828453 440732 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not actually moving to california. i am moving across the state i am already in, which is not california. < 1375828471 690823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were in WA. < 1375828484 12738 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, don't move to Medford. < 1375828563 601047 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can do. < 1375828612 401015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How slightly north? < 1375828614 706 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to live in Medford, MA < 1375828673 470890 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :north of oregon. < 1375828710 112244 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you moving to canada < 1375828733 102744 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's still one state left in between Oregon and Canada. < 1375828774 511181 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bikes of Canada < 1375828808 481324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is where Bike lives now, and also where i lived for almost a decade < 1375828851 530739 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you got me. i'm moving to iqaluit < 1375828908 591435 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say hi to a polar bear for me. < 1375829538 852871 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :moving to ᐃᖃᓗᐃᑦ < 1375829587 792491 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very scenic < 1375829609 902866 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: does Rust have any OpenGL bindings (should I just google this) < 1375829642 362943 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Due to Newfoundland's high debt load, arising from World War I and construction of the Newfoundland railroad, and decreasing revenue, due to the collapse of fish prices, the Newfoundland legislature voted itself temporarily out of existence in 1933 in exchange for loan guarantees." < 1375829647 342937 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes we're using them for Servo < 1375829659 943404 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh! should have thought of that < 1375829664 251992 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1375829680 822134 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you use the fancy programmable pipeline with shaders and all that? < 1375829687 672624 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/mozilla-servo/rust-opengles https://github.com/bjz/glfw-rs < 1375829689 492778 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh i don't think so < 1375829698 284085 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375829698 484533 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you kind of have to with OpenGL ES? < 1375829712 892063 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno man < 1375829717 452406 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I mean, do you use the deprecated glBegin type stuff < 1375829724 622160 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would assume not since servo is meant to be all GPU-y isn't it < 1375829724 991138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ddon't think that exists in ES < 1375829730 482208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1375829731 974064 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is "Calcutta (Taxi, Taxi, Taxi)"? I have a cover of this which is rewritten for 2A03+MMC5 soundchips, by Archj. < 1375829741 982492 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :our drawing is behind several layers of abstraction though < 1375829772 152599 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this binding looks somewhat incomplete < 1375829784 114609 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :``patches welcome'' < 1375829785 333704 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `patches: not found < 1375829786 303420 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe OpenGL ES is just tiny?? < 1375829816 929471 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you have to use the... servo fork of the rust compiler... for this < 1375829822 923549 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(why does servo have its own rust) < 1375829828 252234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a fork just an old version < 1375829845 452968 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool servo uses hubbub? < 1375829846 632939 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the Rust language changes every day and we would like not to spend all day every day porting Servo to today's version of Rust < 1375829852 142692 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started working on Haskell bindings to hubbub < 1375829853 112739 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead we spent a few days every month on that < 1375829857 42849 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I'm doing right now actually < 1375829858 982914 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gave up when I had to modify one of its dependencies to be thread-safe < 1375829866 702532 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well really what I'm doing is slamming my head into a brick wall due to lack of fundeps, but in theory < 1375829867 762501 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(their interning library or whatever) < 1375829880 372601 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's hubbub < 1375829884 213058 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: boring < 1375829887 792696 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(HTML5 parser library) < 1375829887 992797 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotcha < 1375829944 252832 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :incredible worldwide gangster computer god secret containment policy < 1375829951 122736 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://24.media.tumblr.com/b7c651eba14e9a34af8a5eeab58c040f/tumblr_mr4rbolZZt1s5f5n9o1_500.jpg hey good news, i found a worse version of that xkcd comic. < 1375830174 273834 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1375830195 654042 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: maybe I should give up on real polymorphism and use macros < 1375830240 433363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: imo implement polymorphism using macros < 1375830254 591778 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yah < 1375830262 744027 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you need fundeps for, anyway? < 1375830284 43753 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun < 1375830296 133182 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but actually https://github.com/mozilla/servo/blob/master/src/components/util/tree.rs#L88 < 1375830330 913259 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be a 1-to-1 relationship between N and NR but sometime in the past month the compiler realized that it has no reason to assume there is one < 1375830336 504183 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I have no way to tell it that there is one < 1375830356 293755 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it upsets me how rust does this privilegign a singel object thing < 1375830362 103251 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like its "existentials" too < 1375830364 254907 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*privileging *single < 1375830364 674513 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1375830727 274422 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13271 drepper is fucking amazing < 1375830774 793688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure general existentials make that much sense in rust......... < 1375830810 955325 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does rust include what you're closing over in the type of funptrs < 1375830892 65717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a little < 1375830939 564007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can write &fn: Clone(x: int) -> char < 1375830956 54157 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand that syntax :/ < 1375830967 944958 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ': Clone' bit says that all the free variables need to implement the Clone trait, i.e. be copyable < 1375830976 404386 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1375830995 106356 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know the thing ski always talks about with -># ? < 1375830998 614229 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know the "a -> b = exists s. (# s, (# s, a #) -># b #)" thing < 1375831000 594250 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1375831001 574065 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1375831002 834532 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :way ahead of you shachaf < 1375831010 254475 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people brought that up in #rust actually < 1375831010 454735 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering if Rust had anything corresponding to -># I think < 1375831014 384296 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375831021 634147 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :extern "Rust" fn(x: int) -> char < 1375831026 604484 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew (but okay) < 1375831033 95582 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is guaranteed to have no free variables and is represented by a raw code pointer < 1375831038 864458 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but not with the C calling convention) < 1375831049 315371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses the \rainbow{Rust calling convention!} < 1375831062 44296 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are closures represented with this anyhow < 1375831076 85678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you mean way behind hth < 1375831085 587311 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know exactly how closures are represented in Rust < 1375831091 454459 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :way ahind of you shalliott < 1375831131 785159 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have @fn (managed box with free variables in it) and &fn (borrowed pointer to somebody else's box of free variables) < 1375831140 736151 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok next pointless question, do things that are usually uh stack-allocated (like fixnums) implement Copy < 1375831151 644584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you call a function and use a lambda expression for one of the args, then that'll stack-allocate free variables and pass an &fn, I think < 1375831157 166249 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular I'm broadly interested in a languages where you actually construct closures with that existential construction < 1375831167 654621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how awodey always calls his category C and an object in that category C < 1375831189 764986 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and where the notion of references is advanced enough to allow denoting read/write access to variables in the context as elements of that tuple < 1375831199 114921 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I guess there's also ~fn, where the function is uniquely owned and so are all its free variables < 1375831208 385417 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: any chance you could walk me through that type signature < 1375831209 464412 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what the task-spawning function takes < 1375831249 524687 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sort of a pet vapourware project of mine -- a functional language with things like linear types and this -># thing etc. that has full memory control (and no automatic hidden allocation or GC, etc.) but still has all the goodies like higher-order functions, without requiring turning everything into a pointer or closure etc.) < 1375831259 631510 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think it overlaps heavily with Rust, but I started thinking about it before I knew of Rust) < 1375831271 844338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that sounds similar < 1375831298 214602 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the one with a lot of #s? < 1375831321 147343 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1375831324 644471 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: (# a, b #) is an unboxed tuple of a and b, i.e. (# a, b #) -> c literally just takes "two arguments", there's no pointers allocated etc. in the construction of the unboxed tuple < 1375831336 794675 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1375831344 784732 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: (exists s. ...) is ... with a hidden type "s" that the user of the value doesn't know what it is -- the person who constructs the value chooses it < 1375831354 794539 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(doesn't exist with that syntax in Haskell but you can construct the same thing) < 1375831360 609963 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is s the free variables? < 1375831364 475870 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there's ~once fn which is only called once, so after it's been called you get the owned free variables back???? tbh dont understand this one < 1375831364 675928 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, it binds s < 1375831370 834455 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -># b) doesn't exist, but it's basically a raw function pointer from a to b < 1375831378 806387 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahem FunPtr a b < 1375831382 565271 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, say the syntax is (\# x -> ...) :: (a -># b) < 1375831389 55870 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in ..., you can't use any variables in the context < 1375831389 852820 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er is it FunPtr (a -> b) w/e < 1375831390 554436 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i was just missing what s was, i think, thanks < 1375831393 495392 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can't in C < 1375831403 655326 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so let's say you wanted to do < 1375831410 286444 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo :: Int -> (Int -> Int) < 1375831449 817870 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo = (# (), (\# ((), m) -> (# m, (\# (m', n) -> m' + n ) #) ) #) < 1375831457 395420 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is hideously ugly but hopefully you can see what's going on < 1375831463 415616 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :inside the inner \# you couldn't reference m < 1375831467 165430 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can to explicitly close over it < 1375831470 194349 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the corresponding C structure is < 1375831483 218610 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct closure { void *data; B code(void *data, A param); }, basically < 1375831487 115644 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it is sensible to me. < 1375831495 505225 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you do closure->code(closure->data, param) to call it < 1375831498 577028 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is really fucking ugly < 1375831501 804818 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just you get fancy type magic here < 1375831516 604642 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah that makes sense, i'm used to closure = raw ptr + some vector < 1375831523 233556 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well then what you do is you introduce (\x -> ...) as sugar for (# closure, \# (# closure, x #) -> ... #) < 1375831528 44737 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where closure is all the local variables you use in ... < 1375831560 185179 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, right < 1375831578 54711 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in kernel magic idea i should really work on i was thinking of having $vau work like that < 1375831597 14913 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also has the convenience that the "raw pointer" is obviou < 1375831597 864059 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1375831630 765369 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you could do lambda lifting pretty nicely that way < 1375831744 825242 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, uh, you make (\x -> ...) just (\x -># ...) when possible, obviously. < 1375832107 37100 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375832204 746135 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCC0E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212] < 1375832247 8938 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Bike: in particular, I think it would be cool to have a non-existential version of this < 1375832252 626305 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the "s" is actually part of the type < 1375832261 935801 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh re graphix libraries, look at https://github.com/mozilla/servo/tree/master/src#supporting-libraries < 1375832263 656064 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that could be nice < 1375832281 246186 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like (Int ->{a :: Int, b :rw: Int} String) < 1375832293 726161 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that closes over two things, read-only Int a and read-write Int b < 1375832300 166388 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at runtime it'll look like e.g. < 1375832302 307259 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you had a function that took a thing-that-closes-over-1-Int you could vector pass the number and the ptr in some situations, or something < 1375832317 784383 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct this_closure { int a; int *b; string (*foo)(int a, int *b, int param); } < 1375832319 457094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think azure calls skia and skia calls opengles??? < 1375832321 225807 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know why < 1375832329 255997 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: will look after finishing rambling < 1375832339 425996 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the idea then that higher-order functions would be written *polymorphic* to this closure part < 1375832357 295683 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that things don't necessarily have to get bundled up in a closure to be passed higher-order at all < 1375832359 706373 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly i got irrationally annoyed once i realized after far too long that "returning a closure" allocated memory same as actual alloc calls, but looks exactly like returning a bare function < 1375832364 866622 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can have control structures that you know get all inlined out and stuff < 1375832368 266342 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(skipping even the need for a funptr) < 1375832386 745905 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sort of stuff is similar to C++ lambdas I think with the kind of control you get < 1375832389 505955 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"eventually just optimize everything into IMUL cals" < 1375832418 926272 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically my hidden motivation here is that I want something that looks like Haskell but you can also e.g. write a memory manager to run on the bare metal with < 1375832430 886730 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a strongly-typed memory manager) < 1375832433 846349 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the opposite of hidden. < 1375832448 786293 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I just told you. < 1375832452 106490 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now it's no longer hidden < 1375832455 507668 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean, it was obvious before. < 1375832471 126714 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw are we getting "mad hintz" of @ here < 1375832540 326627 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would use this kind of stuff in @ yes, but actually it's a bit less vapourware than @ < 1375832541 446965 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other thing that would be nice is if you could use this as a jit, which moves me into full no idea what i'm talking about territory < 1375832553 66318 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that I can imagine trying to implement it if I got a good enough grip on the design and the design looks vaguely grippable < 1375832570 317117 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a hidiom < 1375832591 366238 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: though the language I'd want for @ would be basically fully dependently-typed. this thing is only kind of dependently-typed. < 1375832615 836066 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: er isn't everything you've said so far independent of dependent types? < 1375832623 126606 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375832635 516797 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i mean... why say that. < 1375832641 755908 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you asked about mad hintz of @. < 1375832648 696745 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sorta dependent types come in when describing memory layout, in this language. < 1375832658 126629 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"though the language i'd want for @ would have full complex arithmetic. this thing doesn't have any complex arithmetic" < 1375832662 836047 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1375832667 706255 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, memory layout? how? < 1375832679 757004 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well uh < 1375832701 666880 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man i'm so bad at PLT, i still don't get how dependent types are different from like, integral range types < 1375832706 917324 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should start reporting bugs against Pharo < 1375832708 396631 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: do you know the kind of bullshit structure layouts you get in OSes and networking < 1375832711 256559 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when i say "PLT" i mean "anything in this channel". < 1375832712 544246 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375832715 425943 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: kinda. < 1375832729 146472 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are just so many bugs :( < 1375832741 636448 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like addrinfo? < 1375832755 347197 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ok well take a look at the second and third pictures here http://wiki.osdev.org/Global_Descriptor_Table#Structure < 1375832763 336439 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :note how base and limit are like < 1375832768 716954 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sprawled across multiple words < 1375832772 517182 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in random order < 1375832794 129633 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. yeah. fuck those < 1375832796 76993 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is awful to deal with because you have to do the bitpacking yourself etc. < 1375832807 236377 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'd like a way to first specify precise bit alignments etc. of structures < 1375832820 106485 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then say "there's a base field made by bitpacking these other precisely-sized smaller-than-word fields together" < 1375832825 106934 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then just use that everywhere. < 1375832841 416536 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that have to do with dependent types < 1375832844 666742 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then I also want to be able to e.g. represent a TCP packet directly as a structure within the language, with the correct in-memory layout < 1375832848 297035 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I'm gettting theeeeeeeeeeere < 1375832871 496110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh you know how ADTs are generally represented with a tag word < 1375832871 910361 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1375832875 676921 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Maybe a = Nothing | Just a < 1375832879 429055 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you store a word for whether it's Nothing or Just < 1375832880 767419 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1375832888 437071 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i didn't know it was a whole word though? < 1375832892 446771 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, details < 1375832898 560033 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually GHC does it a bit different It hink but w/e < 1375832907 662680 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that kind of thing also comes up explicitly in a lot of protocoly type stuff < 1375832915 106611 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "if this flag is this then it has this layout otherwise it has another"? < 1375832920 947165 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. yeah, i see. < 1375832923 276607 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'd like to be able to say (syntax made up on the spot) < 1375832937 807082 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct Maybe A { enum { Nothing, Just } tag; switch (tag) { Nothing: ; Just: A value; } } < 1375832957 856865 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then the sorta-dependent-typing is the rest of the structure type depending on the value of the tag. < 1375832984 138178 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's... uh. < 1375832984 337871 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you could do things like switch on tag, and if it's Just you can access .value safety, but if not you can't access .value (without explicitly marking it as an unsafe access, perhaps) < 1375832998 396892 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is that this generalises to other stuff < 1375833004 206742 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where it's not as simple as just one tag value < 1375833012 717689 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obviously you can build sugar for the common ADT-y case on top of this) < 1375833015 618382 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'm imagining some weird ass "switch"es here < 1375833023 87224 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is that the existence of a tag word in memory is explicitly represented in the language < 1375833035 17125 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the idea is not to hide anything about the memory layout < 1375833058 850405 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, well, doesn't that possibly inhibit optimizations that work by eliding the tag word when possible? < 1375833094 167939 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say it more enables you to make optimisations by not having a tag word in the first place < 1375833100 730050 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or packing the tag word as bits in another part etc. < 1375833109 597291 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and e.g. avoiding casing on the tag for data shared between all variants of a struct < 1375833118 837236 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more broadly, optimisations that change in-memory layout aren't appropriate for something like an OS < 1375833122 308312 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(most of the time) < 1375833128 206995 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :granted. < 1375833148 198336 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though I think this language would also apply nicely to game development and similar things, with the GC-less nature) < 1375833168 847142 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking of i dunno, \x -> let fn = ... in case x of Nothing -> foo; Just _ -> fn x where it can obviously be seen that fn will always get a Just < 1375833190 127466 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, I guses < 1375833200 499486 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah i can see why you wouldn't want that in an OS < 1375833208 177453 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though an example that isn't a bad idea would help (since what is fn Nothing going to be? you could just pass the value inside the Just) < 1375833225 448857 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :off the top of my head and i'm bad at programming, sorry~ < 1375833230 707977 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also I don't think compilers generally do this kind of optimisation in practice, so losing it doesn't seem like such a big deal < 1375833392 757472 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Rust does something similar with forcing you to case to use things safely, right? < 1375833393 877995 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375833493 909258 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't read this whole convo < 1375833495 308238 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, what? < 1375833525 568282 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh I don't know. isn't there a thing where you can't access fields of an object in Rust before you check a tag or something < 1375833531 17792 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how to describe what I am thinking of < 1375833539 167325 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like pattern matching < 1375833545 597715 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you are required to check all cases < 1375833597 787772 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375833600 248159 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... yeah but... never mind < 1375833668 631975 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot: that is the first line on a new page at codu.org < 1375833994 911352 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow what a coincidence; that's the first thing you've said since joining < 1375834009 178957 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork is the bringer of the new day. < 1375834077 798237 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375834240 191941 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375835248 350521 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375835398 350837 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375835416 260563 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in C, can you have declarations after statements? < 1375835542 631998 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'main() { int x; x = 3; int y; return x + y; }\n' > a.c && gcc a.c < 1375835547 850322 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in C99, not in C89 or Ye Olde C < 1375835550 230937 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375835588 720974 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. < 1375835603 461332 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thinking about kernel's "add to environments whenever" thing and how much i hate it < 1375835607 270842 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(some compilers may allow it without explicitly enabling C99, just as they allow //-comments) < 1375835616 60746 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: fun fact: you can't put a goto label on a declaration < 1375835631 750510 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, dealing with "int x; x = 3; eval("int y = 4"); return x + y;" would just... ugh < 1375835641 501592 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'main() { foo: int x = 3; goto foo; }\n' > a.c && gcc a.c < 1375835642 582377 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you also get into trouble if you skip over declarations or anything of the such < 1375835645 580714 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :a.c: In function ‘main’: \ a.c:1: error: a label can only be part of a statement and a declaration is not a statement < 1375835651 810694 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'main() { foo:; int x = 3; goto foo; }\n' > a.c && gcc a.c < 1375835657 142288 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375835657 980584 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's uh, huh. < 1375835660 100551 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which gccrun < 1375835661 771259 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/gccrun < 1375835670 603645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun foo: int x = 3; goto foo; < 1375835673 241172 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/gccrun.g9q3g9XU/command.c: In function ‘main’: \ /tmp/gccrun.g9q3g9XU/command.c:19: error: a label can only be part of a statement and a declaration is not a statement < 1375835703 681971 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not "dealing with" so much as "allowing" < 1375835734 980650 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun if(0) { foo: return puts("!"); } goto foo; return puts("?"); < 1375835737 920839 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​! < 1375835771 280755 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's actually what i expected to happen. god help me. < 1375835815 410960 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun if(0) { foo: return puts("!"); } else goto foo; return puts("?"); < 1375835818 231631 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​! < 1375835837 161932 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :goto is real great stuff < 1375835858 620684 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also "unstructured" switch < 1375835872 931881 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as per duff's device & friends < 1375835887 960969 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good device < 1375835910 441365 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun if (0) { foo: printf("Hello, world!\n"); return 0; }; asm goto("jmp %l0" : : : : foo); __builtin_unreachable(); } < 1375835912 292095 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/gccrun.FP131YDj/command.c: In function ‘main’: \ /tmp/gccrun.FP131YDj/command.c:19: error: expected ‘(’ before ‘goto’ \ /tmp/gccrun.FP131YDj/command.c:19: error: expected identifier or ‘*’ before ‘(’ token \ /tmp/gccrun.FP131YDj/command.c: At top level: \ /tmp/gccrun.FP131YDj/command.c:20: error: expected identifier or < 1375835915 880918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you < 1375835929 77825 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fall through is pretty useful in a switch case, sometimes. < 1375835987 471378 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun if (0) { foo: printf("Hello, world!\n"); return 0; }; asm("jmp %l0" : : : : &foo); } < 1375835989 1443 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/gccrun.q8YTzgvD/command.c: In function ‘main’: \ /tmp/gccrun.q8YTzgvD/command.c:19: error: expected string literal before ‘:’ token \ /tmp/gccrun.q8YTzgvD/command.c: At top level: \ /tmp/gccrun.q8YTzgvD/command.c:20: error: expected identifier or ‘(’ before ‘return’ \ /tmp/gccrun.q8YTzgvD/command.c:21: error: expected identi < 1375836024 881216 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it not understanding asm? < 1375836069 153499 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun --version < 1375836070 606069 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/gccrun.jHMqVnVF/command.c: In function ‘main’: \ /tmp/gccrun.jHMqVnVF/command.c:19: error: ‘version’ undeclared (first use in this function) \ /tmp/gccrun.jHMqVnVF/command.c:19: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once \ /tmp/gccrun.jHMqVnVF/command.c:19: error: for each function it appears in.) < 1375836076 41920 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gcc --version < 1375836077 146276 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc (Debian 4.4.5-8) 4.4.5 \ Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc. \ This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO \ warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. < 1375836119 761511 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run svn co svn://gcc.gnu.org/svn/gcc/trunk < 1375836121 105465 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: svn: command not found < 1375836137 552021 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you < 1375836182 732760 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fuck you < 1375836183 951883 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: fuck: not found < 1375836186 922727 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does my earlier eval thing seem reasonable to anybody < 1375836229 951538 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp now rustc is dying with just "Aborted" < 1375836288 102529 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in some kind of infinite recursion < 1375836633 102737 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I should think of what to advance my Dungeons&Dragons character. < 1375836650 793380 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun asm("jmp *%0" : : "r" (&&foo)); printf("Hi\n"); foo: return !printf("Hello, world!\n"); < 1375836653 582255 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1375836712 313153 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun asm volatile("hlt"::); < 1375836715 402823 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Segmentation fault < 1375836724 982472 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the spirit. < 1375836840 622272 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun asm volatile("popcnt %%eax"::); < 1375836842 793519 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/gccrun.4SBPpiHU/command.c: Assembler messages: \ /tmp/gccrun.4SBPpiHU/command.c:19: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `popcnt' < 1375836848 932659 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun asm volatile("popcnt %%eax, %%eax"::); < 1375836851 464267 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375836867 812680 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun asm volatile("vpmaddubsw %%ymm0, %%ymm0, %%ymm0"::); < 1375836869 892350 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/gccrun.zJA471z5/command.c: Assembler messages: \ /tmp/gccrun.zJA471z5/command.c:19: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `vpmaddubsw' < 1375836895 932806 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun asm volatile("tzcnt %%eax, %%eax"::); < 1375836898 33252 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/gccrun.bO0jCRhE/command.c: Assembler messages: \ /tmp/gccrun.bO0jCRhE/command.c:19: Error: no such instruction: `tzcnt %eax,%eax' < 1375836902 973406 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1375836965 302965 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gcc -dumpmachine < 1375836966 503449 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86_64-linux-gnu < 1375836972 462581 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gcc -dumpspecs < 1375836973 496929 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*asm: \ %{v:-V} %{Qy:} %{!Qn:-Qy} %{n} %{T} %{Ym,*} %{Yd,*} %{Wa,*:%*} %{m32:--32} %{m64:--64} %{!mno-sse2avx:%{mavx:-msse2avx}} %{msse2avx:%{!mavx:-msse2avx}} \ \ *asm_debug: \ %{!g0:%{gstabs*:--gstabs}%{!gstabs*:%{g*:--gdwarf2}}} %{fdebug-prefix-map=*:--debug-prefix-map %*} \ \ *asm_final: \ \ \ *asm_options: \ %{--target-help:%:print-as < 1375836977 212581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun asm("fist"); < 1375836979 222824 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/gccrun.1Vv8dvIW/command.c: Assembler messages: \ /tmp/gccrun.1Vv8dvIW/command.c:19: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `fist' < 1375837008 514402 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: ah yes, the good old address of label operator < 1375837029 184243 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and computed goto, is that goto *expr? < 1375837036 272551 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :computed goto is best goto < 1375837058 65225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :goto more like mefrom < 1375837083 94019 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep -e flags -e 'model name' /proc/cpuinfo < 1375837084 492739 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :model name : UML < 1375837103 812537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs cpuid < 1375837145 472965 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.11462 < 1375837185 70254 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run gccrun 'int name[12],i;for(i=0;i<3;i++){asm("cpuid":"=a"(name[4*i]),"=b"(name[4*i+1]),"=c"(name[4*i+2]),"=d"(name[4*i+3]):"a"(0x80000002+i));}puts((char*)name);' < 1375837187 723260 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 6128 < 1375837196 792905 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Just make a file called CPUID.COM" < 1375837256 973830 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I've never actually seen a non-genuine Intel processor < 1375837263 396391 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they exist somewhere < 1375837445 483454 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I have done like that, it displays something like "GenuineIntel" or whatever < 1375837456 674772 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was quoting you, even. < 1375837484 743419 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It won't display the details like "AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 6128", however. < 1375837502 453479 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a good name for an operator that change a variable's value, if "define" and "set" are taken < 1375837516 273770 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was gonna go with "alter" but it kinda sucks < 1375837536 993368 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :modify? < 1375837564 453346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mutate? < 1375837591 293544 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it depends on what you mean < 1375837602 914202 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "x = 4" in C < 1375837609 643712 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not x.foo = 4) < 1375837938 716818 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1375838153 344053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Normally, the problem with a web service is that it is written in standard HTML and PHP, so hackers can exploit vulnerabilities in the code. But our service is written completely in javascript, developed to provide the highest level of security available on the web. < 1375838180 775178 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's kind of long as names go, don't you think < 1375838185 4234 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's buzzwordalicious. < 1375838210 45135 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is client-side JavaScript, then it isn't a proper service, isn't it? (If it is server-side JavaScript, then there can still be vulnerabilities although they are different ones. Also, HTML is client-side too.) < 1375838998 586336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: assign < 1375839051 535994 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the copumpkin has returned < 1375839058 146390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi copumpkin < 1375839061 935910 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :my computer had an "accident" :) < 1375839068 537749 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1375839068 956873 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or update < 1375839070 765953 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it has now been replaced and my IRC settings took a while < 1375839074 206229 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wow obvious thanks < 1375839079 796377 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes, now it's a nicer computer < 1375839091 465697 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I freaked out thinking I had lost my gpg seckey < 1375839097 946005 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then I found it on an ancient hard drive < 1375839151 746580 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I keep a copy of all my secret keys under the rug. < 1375839175 257431 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :good plan < 1375839188 565566 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: That's because you did 0x0, which is the code to get the CPU vendor out from cpuid. < 1375839201 437239 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i am pretty sure shachaf quoted that because it was hilariously wrong (and stupid). < 1375839217 685858 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x80000002-5 are the CPU model name. < 1375839572 866837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1375839649 176296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Filboid_Studge,_the_Story_of_a_Mouse_That_Helped < 1375839757 748672 :Guest18414!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ldsjpmotrybbjwdr QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1375840566 837995 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :logging in and typing xrandr commands blind \o/ < 1375840567 397867 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                           | < 1375840567 599907 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                          /| < 1375840585 748323 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes indeed. < 1375840647 928662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: devoice yrself hth < 1375840653 137966 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"One huge sombre poster depicted the Damned in Hell suffering a new torment from their inability to get at the Filboid Studge which elegant young fiends held in transparent bowls just beyond their reach." amazing. < 1375840658 178037 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's somehow appropriate that kmc's myndzi dudes are misaligned < 1375840669 306478 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you say that, < elliott> < 1375840674 77823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: imo log in and type xhost + < 1375840677 767962 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix. your client!! < 1375840682 589354 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even mnoqy turned off the "< " < 1375840691 577720 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix it so that kmc's myndzi dudes aren't aligned < 1375840692 977711 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think not < 1375840695 587950 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :even shachaf turned off the "< ". < 1375840700 468865 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/.$// < 1375840705 868590 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't necessarily make it broken; there is no guarantee that they would be lined up, actually. < 1375840710 948661 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they all difference < 1375840715 939141 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i turned it off but i still think it's not worth complaining over < 1375840718 827980 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 makes a good point. < 1375840731 484586 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: well, you're sensible (the only sensible person in this channel??) < 1375840744 869864 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ais523 is sensible but he's not in this channel anymore < 1375840749 429032 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :go back to #sensible < 1375840757 288894 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the irc protocol should be fixed to specify character widths < 1375840779 369111 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On my computer the "|" is just beneath the "l" in "blind" but you shouldn't expect anyone's computer to do anything specific such as that or not that < 1375840791 248010 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I don't think so. I think that isn't necessary < 1375840792 839398 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The irc protocol should forbid people from complaining about irc < 1375840818 828736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like the iOS app store! < 1375840820 375719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: did you get an answer from your brother < 1375840834 787962 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Answer to what question? < 1375840847 468137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether he's ever been here < 1375840851 539555 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :#ifappledesignedirc < 1375840870 657918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fappled < 1375840959 558218 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :iFapple < 1375841428 989662 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :preordering now < 1375841610 990168 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude this motherboard uses "Military Class II" components < 1375841620 29947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can totally blow you up by plugging in an S/PDIF cable < 1375841671 270059 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :missed "up" the first time I read that :/ < 1375841745 600747 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://24.media.tumblr.com/5ba25305b4c70be6a875ebebd82446d5/tumblr_mps7wwOvyv1r7tprao1_500.jpg sorry for bad photo, but < 1375841779 540293 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :smudge proof #1 selling scratch protection < 1375841783 520331 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it can do that too < 1375841795 639123 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :military grade nano-memory technology?? what the heck is this < 1375841803 119306 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :an iphone cover. < 1375841806 681015 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure this isn't some sort of joke < 1375841830 959445 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i took the photo. It was from Target. < 1375841845 759430 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure it wasn't some sort of joke < 1375841856 571122 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :april fools in august < 1375841860 530346 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :august fools < 1375841864 453134 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could happen to anyone < 1375841894 879923 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure target isn't some kind of joke < 1375841936 529905 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://31.media.tumblr.com/5b9a7d8e6b41d9f68495e4676af7098a/tumblr_mpsbna0AlZ1r7tprao1_500.jpg continued < 1375841966 11198 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is this like http://www.theonion.com/video/new-wearable-computer-also-sucks-your-dick,33017/ < 1375841973 340966 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZAGG® < 1375841980 630867 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: can. can you rotate this for me < 1375841988 314399 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just rotate it in your head < 1375841992 989943 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've spent too much of my life rotating my neck to read things. < 1375842000 299717 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much of my life not getting Bike to do things for me < 1375842002 540004 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: rotate your computer instead hth < 1375842011 100562 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my tech is to be able to read sideways < 1375842020 679603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: good tech can i have it < 1375842025 740453 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess rotating is easier though huh < 1375842029 460656 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah like that < 1375842036 290569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smlist (417) < 1375842038 323176 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :smlist (417): shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy < 1375842053 319518 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a good day < 1375842124 721094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Area Man Too Poor To Afford Movers, Too Old To Get Help From His Friends" sometimes the onion is just depressing < 1375842155 900153 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :area man...:( < 1375842195 290120 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what laptop should I buy :( < 1375842214 880307 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like every thinkpad is kind of bad in 2013 < 1375842250 190455 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it more fun to think about which laptop is the best than actually having one < 1375842267 926153 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you implying!! < 1375842299 40327 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: macbook < 1375842334 61146 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ipad < 1375842358 275935 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm really happy with my X1 Carbon, except that the screen just broke :< < 1375842366 542144 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that microsoft tablet thing with the keyboard flap < 1375842370 499671 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am too stingy to afford movers and too unlikeable to get help from my friends < 1375842371 860588 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh no :'( what happen < 1375842382 22628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno I just pushed it a bit and *crack* < 1375842386 492 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like no obvious source of damage < 1375842409 790036 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: maybe but probably not < 1375842425 770751 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssh uses not-much-knowledge proofs of password ownership, yes? < 1375842431 751522 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah, I don't think the X1 Carbon really meets my requirements though (my requirements are: I don't know my requirements) < 1375842439 30070 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ownership/knowership/ < 1375842450 511201 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my requirements are: hugz < 1375842456 529893 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: Or it can use public key crypto. < 1375842460 800504 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: then what are you doing comparing laptops, or uh, i guess you're asking other people to do that for you huh < 1375842478 890429 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hugz shachaf  < 1375842481 610672 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how would you know when's the right time to say "yes"! < 1375842484 331476 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, in this case I typed a password, wondering how clearly it was sent, assuming a malicious server or something < 1375842485 173291 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: in particular, (relatively) low RAM, bad graphics (incl. resolution), seemingly very little storage? < 1375842503 842598 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much ram < 1375842509 680520 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: there's only one laptop with as good resolution as the MBP retina ;) < 1375842514 90638 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: which like, it's an ultrabook so this is not terribly surprising < 1375842515 853318 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one other laptop, i mean < 1375842531 162416 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: 1080p would be "enough" < 1375842542 380944 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe 1680x1050 would be enough < 1375842554 513277 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: 4-8 gigabytes on the X1 Carbon < 1375842563 195028 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's plenty < 1375842569 814100 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would be happier with 12-16 for long-term purchase reasons < 1375842590 853194 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im shocked anyone would ever need a good computer < 1375842595 831902 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you plan on doing, gaming?? < 1375842603 190285 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :4,5hardcore gaming??? < 1375842604 874413 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :paging nortti < 1375842642 760446 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :128 GB is plenty of storage elliott < 1375842693 90893 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can get 256 < 1375842701 770749 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you can? < 1375842705 870819 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/x-series/x1-carbon/index.html doesn't list that < 1375842711 881374 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :256 would "probably" be enough < 1375842727 668486 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked at the T series thinkpads and they're really disappointing < 1375842744 280678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: wow i didn't know elliott was 4,4hardcore < 1375842751 481560 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe things will be better when haswell comes out < 1375842757 370472 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you better believe it < 1375842761 31365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :haswell is out hth < 1375842768 548739 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*haswell hardware < 1375842771 452087 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm told you should wait until october or so for haswell laptops < 1375842891 610495 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you could get like, something like what I got! and spend too much money < 1375842918 61208 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: what did you get < 1375842921 750264 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have resigned myself to spending too much money already < 1375843018 400509 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sager np9150? < 1375843053 2333 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok good news i have a story < 1375843068 620017 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i was just a wee bike under construction my parents were thinking about what to name me < 1375843085 41624 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mom wanted to go with "elliott" but my dad didn't like it < 1375843094 580840 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you serious < 1375843096 61712 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good story < 1375843104 524105 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he got her to get her boss to say "elllliottttt" like the alien in ET every time my mom walked by < 1375843113 901027 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, got her boss to* < 1375843119 521573 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's also a good story < 1375843126 650178 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so, i was not named "elliott". < 1375843137 162013 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead you were named "Bike" < 1375843154 600771 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more stories < 1375843158 471121 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is just a nom de guerre. my real name is Ike < 1375843161 289365 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if not elliott, what woulkd you be named?? are there any other names < 1375843179 191496 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see previous message < 1375843182 61413 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike "Ike" Bicycle < 1375843191 90959 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it Ike "Bike" Bicycle < 1375843194 841773 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike stories are a non-scarce resource < 1375843246 31178 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's Ike "Bike" Sumayang actually < 1375843416 203983 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :close enough < 1375843417 672320 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1375843423 581646 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye mnoqy < 1375843437 144674 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: geez, it looks like you can get a haswell i7, 765M, 15" 1080p screen, 240GB SSD, and like, 16GB RAM for ~$1300 now though right it's the UK so things probably get 10x worse < 1375843493 814260 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that sounds pretty great (depending on weight and stuff), what model is that? < 1375843521 892975 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sager NP7352 apparently? < 1375843540 343599 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cheaper without the SSD and stuff, I'm just super biased because I have one -_-) < 1375843553 602160 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 6 pounds, even lighter than mine @_@ < 1375843554 34782 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott also apparently wants it to weigh no more than 1.3kg or something < 1375843589 301684 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :after spending days looking at laptops that were mostly 4-5kg I felt like I had discovered the garden of eden when I found one that was only about 3 < 1375843596 982016 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is super biased because he weighs no more than 1.3 kg < 1375843605 832392 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I never said that :P < 1375843619 712372 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yeah I have an SSD now and don't plan to buy a computer without one if I can help it < 1375843630 421710 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: elliott's like, my size :p < 1375843640 253339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well, you said it to me once. < 1375843652 181792 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway is the clevo w740su really so bad < 1375843659 131730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo find out so that you can tell me < 1375843663 201795 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are ssds nice < 1375843671 841768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually a black hole and would prefer a laptop about the size of Jupiter < 1375843678 472313 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can eat it < 1375843690 391469 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :size or mass < 1375843696 673511 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes but you have to get used to there not being any ticky noises when you install stuff < 1375843802 582245 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: it seems like sager only sell in USD? so I guess it's just a question of how much shipping would cost < 1375843809 832776 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummm let me see if there's any UK resellers < 1375843816 591850 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if they'd ship at all I guess < 1375843827 312450 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/91510-clevo-guide-v2-0-faq-reseller-info.html < 1375843837 232074 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's UK resellers < 1375843841 933105 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's also a clevo thingy? < 1375843848 12843 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sager is clevo basically <.< < 1375843853 402560 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're two different brands for the same thing < 1375843853 602556 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the system76 one shachaf linked me was clevo too < 1375843868 432769 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're all clevo < 1375843873 58685 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it more like, clevo sell laptops to people who then brand them? < 1375843883 212969 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sager is clevo's gamer/performance brand, I think? < 1375843896 302755 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sager laptops are manufactured by Clevo which are also sold under many other brand names. Sager is the biggest Clevo retailer. < 1375843906 692175 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sager_Notebook_Computers ) < 1375843923 92140 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if you can buy things directly from Clevo and save money???? probably you have to buy in bulk or something < 1375843972 262154 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"5.) Uniqueness ("It Ain't a Dell"): Subjective to personal preference. But having a custom high-end notebook that the masses cannot identify is pretty 1337." this post is adorable < 1375843996 442307 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375844040 952273 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should let you pay more to not have a numpad < 1375844058 632144 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh I wonder what the trackpads are like < 1375844108 923182 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is Nvidia Optimus the thing that gave you a ton of issues on Linux < 1375844121 252233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1375844136 512527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it works better for some people and/or with some cards, though. < 1375844141 603531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :x=1; while [ -n "$x" ]; do x=$(lsmod | grep ^snd_ | awk '{print $1}' | shuf | head -1); sudo rmmod $x; done < 1375844146 483937 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The binary Nvidia driver added partial Optimus support May 3, 2013 in the 319.17.[6]" at least there's that < 1375844146 684016 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shockingly effective < 1375844154 924060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, I tried that. < 1375844157 752762 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't work for me. < 1375844161 582448 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I didn't try very hard. < 1375844177 72538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only, y'know, a couple of hours or something. < 1375844348 332947 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, you might not be able to turn off optimus :/ < 1375844556 364869 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh, the NP7330 looks really good. it's a 13" 1080p laptop with like, better specs than mine, and it's just 4.6 pounds < 1375844701 154153 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google 4.6 lbs in kg < 1375844704 523102 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.0865249 kilograms < 1375844704 723326 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.evi.com/q/convert_4.6_lbs_to_kg < 1375844704 723518 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: convert 4.6 lbs to kg - Evi < 1375844736 323685 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375845319 655526 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1375845703 884314 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375845714 814931 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/0xabad1dea/status/364852927170494464 'Found in code: /* v/=radix uses less CPU clocks than v=v/radix does */ If this is ACTUALLY true, slap your compiler silly' < 1375845749 255345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: which local slang < 1375845766 145959 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Is v a floating point? < 1375845773 565106 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "bunner" < 1375845791 604892 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is v volatile? < 1375845797 304729 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is v a macro? < 1375845822 14921 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what v and radix even are here, or what compiler you are using, or what computer it is. < 1375845851 95223 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never heard that < 1375845975 835156 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah that's why i said "more globally" but a friend told me, and urbandictionary backed him up, so i assume /womebody/ uses it < 1375845985 756450 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: does LVM work well with GPT and stuff < 1375845989 386615 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know anything about this < 1375846000 837576 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you installed Debian with full-disk encryption on a new computer recently right < 1375846017 426871 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot believe how girly 0xabad1dea's profile is < 1375846526 536069 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if Cons is a 2-ary type constructor (* -> * -> * i guess), could ConsList (like []) be defined as fix (\self t -> Cons t self) < 1375846638 89845 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is Cons defined? < 1375846658 876353 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Cons a b = Cons a b or whatever < 1375846661 916768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so (,) < 1375846668 36512 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah sure. < 1375846668 936370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: There's no place for Nil there. < 1375846675 766620 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[a] = mu (\self -> Maybe (a, self)) < 1375846687 776886 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mu is basically fix. < 1375846692 16264 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you'd get a stream, not a list (and you'd want a greatest fixed point, but, like, whatever). < 1375846692 996549 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's least vs. upper bound stuff) < 1375846695 896820 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, least vs. greater < 1375846696 177766 :Guest18414!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wmpgzonmugbgjqkq JOIN :#esoteric < 1375846700 146659 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right ok elliott fixed it. < 1375846705 416556 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/..$/, man)./ < 1375846724 406479 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. I need to come up with a better way of phrasing that. < 1375846735 286602 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: basically you define a list of A as the least fixed point of F(L) = 1 + A * L < 1375846743 726844 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ translates to Either, 1 translates to (), * translates to (,) < 1375846754 896994 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so Either () (a, l) which is Maybe (a, l) < 1375846760 26510 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you can work backwards to what I said < 1375846763 377486 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like is this doable in haskell (or some type theory that is simple i gues) < 1375846768 119583 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can write: < 1375846775 187178 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Fix f = Fix { break :: f (Fix f) } < 1375846778 877088 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean y'all talk about mu but i'm pretty sure it's crazy bullshit? < 1375846783 390401 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :type List a = Fix (ListF a) < 1375846788 808280 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make Fix like elliott wrote. < 1375846795 986792 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype ListF a l = ListF { listless :: Maybe (a, l) } < 1375846798 348178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also make Mu and Nu but in practice there isn't much point in Haskell. < 1375846807 983606 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Mu and Nu correspond to folds and unfolds.) < 1375846814 956520 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also make a bunch of functor combinator things so you could say < 1375846827 789080 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :type List a = Fix (One :+: (An a :*: Arg)) < 1375846832 607045 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't like having to define ListF < 1375846869 816620 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's An < 1375846878 736581 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :type One = An (); newtype An r a = An r {- this is Const -}; newtype (f :+: g) a = L (f a) | R (g a) < 1375846886 556651 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype (f :*: g) a = f a :*: g a < 1375846903 777152 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good newtype < 1375846905 737022 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nil = Fix (L (An ()) < 1375846922 790466 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cons x xs = Fix (R (An x :*: xs)) < 1375846936 189023 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this kind of thing is where the "algebraic" in "algebraic data types" comes from < 1375847013 837997 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375847027 907224 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't remember clearly enough < 1375847034 948951 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I understand Const. < 1375847038 368737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debian installer will configure FDE by itself < 1375847039 907934 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-37-243.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1375847042 357167 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375847048 267118 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: did you miss the stuff I said < 1375847049 667264 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand thisContext < 1375847052 328204 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i had a vague idea of algebra but wasn't sure how it worked with fixpoints < 1375847053 217431 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the stuff unrelated to Const < 1375847065 147781 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: whenever i discon i check the log becaue otherwise it would be kind of unfair to people talking to me < 1375847069 330075 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Const r a = Const r < 1375847075 718235 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you not see how it's a Functor? just trying to see what the problem is < 1375847081 937217 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap :: (a -> b) -> Const r a -> Const r b < 1375847089 457309 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Const r x) is equivalent to r for any x, so this is just < 1375847092 242760 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i just < 1375847093 787992 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap :: (a -> b) -> r -> r < 1375847096 888309 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a constructor in the way < 1375847100 698439 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't even understand the syntax :V < 1375847116 47218 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh is it newtype you don't know about, or < 1375847118 288256 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric-overflow < 1375847119 128524 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to help!! < 1375847123 537270 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's newtype yes < 1375847126 157687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric-in-depth < 1375847129 367525 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay pretend it says data instead of newtype < 1375847133 169624 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember it being a type alias or something but i have no idea what that means < 1375847135 679498 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's exactly the same for our purposes < 1375847163 607542 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's more efficient at runtime for a type that just wraps another one (i.e. one constructor, one field) and has some dumb edge-cases with undefined/nontermination that you should try not to think about) < 1375847180 458769 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders why that isn't just done automatically < 1375847188 347338 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: aforementioned edge-cases < 1375847195 748406 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes you want the indirection < 1375847204 157480 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so when you have that fmap, it's actually like (a -> b) -> Const r -> Const r but Const r is equivalent to r because well obviously. < 1375847207 308259 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even (data Foo = Foo !Bar) isn't equivalent to (newtype Foo = Foo Bar) < 1375847217 807432 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo just use a strict language < 1375847218 87782 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because matching on the latter's Foo is irrefutable, but not the former's < 1375847226 697209 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Const r a -> Const r b < 1375847229 918004 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes two type paramters < 1375847232 967360 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but like < 1375847234 877895 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Const r) is the functor, just like [] is a functor < 1375847242 817726 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor Bike < 1375847248 667894 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nevermind i get it < 1375847259 327462 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: sorry, I didn't know whether you were being imprecise or it was part of the confusion < 1375847265 887553 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was being imprecise < 1375847270 777707 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the parameter is irrelevant but also, like, the point < 1375847278 980384 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the "= Const r" that gets me, "= r" would be more intuitive to me < 1375847285 647325 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesn't work with data of course < 1375847297 17327 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Const on the right is a constructor, not a type. < 1375847299 877821 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :riht. < 1375847302 159207 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1375847303 217798 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this is confusing and so does SPJ. < 1375847307 347881 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway let me try to define the fmap. < 1375847308 628091 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Const r a = TheThing { value :: r } < 1375847346 627354 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just fmap _ (Const rv) = rv < 1375847352 320093 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er no < 1375847362 714487 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap _ (Const rv) = Const rv < 1375847367 197589 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1375847422 987642 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah UPS stores do 3D printing now < 1375847425 548353 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a few of them) < 1375847458 167760 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: to save on shipping costs, right? < 1375847515 517878 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-223-248.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375847527 237680 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-223-248.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just sitting outside in the cool air, learnin babby's first math and pissing on routers < 1375847558 268420 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, uh < 1375847561 908996 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i implemented this fancy trigram thing < 1375847577 178372 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but searching the entire archive without it takes 0.17s < 1375847588 408142 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, trigrams are cool < 1375847610 178899 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :% time python iwc.py --search-messages '/ais[^5][^2][^3]/' < 1375847630 738944 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-211-203.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375847700 581104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which math < 1375847715 448357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also do you think the piss interferes with the correct functioning of the routers < 1375847719 207786 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to < 1375847781 758356 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-223-248.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375847787 200129 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-248.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible, slightly possible < 1375847793 258381 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike_: basically the reason we want Const is because the functor argument to our list functor is actually the list < 1375847796 244486 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :type. < 1375847797 679436 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because fixpoint < 1375847811 659863 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we want to ignore it for the actual value in the list and for the nil case. < 1375847861 49396 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-248.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1375848027 848851 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375848202 970571 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-223-248.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375848210 789439 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any recursive types that can't be rewritten into Mufuckery? < 1375848212 740075 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375848235 409152 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure the answer is no but i gotta ask all the dumb quetions < 1375848264 548652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Well, that depends on what you mean by Mu. < 1375848289 199017 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually you talk about the fixed point of a (covariant) functor, but Haskell lets you have negative recursion. < 1375848299 859051 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm lost. < 1375848313 399277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like data Rec a = Rec (Rec a -> a) < 1375848320 839033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recursion with something on the left side of a -> < 1375848394 109045 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That lets you do all sorts of evil things, and it's usually forbidden in total languages. < 1375848471 560433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Haskell it still works out to be the same thing with Fix, I think, but you can't use any function that relies on a Functor constraint. < 1375848753 190030 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't understand any of that and i don't think i'm going to any time soon < 1375848797 830494 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry. I should have put it differently. < 1375848808 559848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep forgetting that you can install xmonad and xdm and firefox and still not install the X server < 1375848827 589463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what negative/positive positions, or covariant/contravariant functors, are? < 1375848835 84528 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1375849108 531645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, covariant (i.e. normal) functors are things that give you fmap :: (a -> b) -> f a -> f b < 1375849118 482837 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Contravariant functors give you contramap :: (a -> b) -> f b -> f a < 1375849187 483545 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :example? < 1375849206 550083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Op r a = Op (a -> r) < 1375849302 150862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And e.g. Predicate a = a -> Bool and so on.) < 1375849358 432162 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whether unstable is better than testing these days < 1375849369 990154 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what happened to the whole rolling-release Debian plan < 1375849518 300605 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so contramap foo pred = \a -> pred (foo a) and wow i've been told this before haven't i. < 1375849592 60504 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that Op r (Op r a) is covariant again. < 1375849923 494358 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "arrays of length 4" a dependent type? (or rather the constructor N -> a type like that) < 1375850015 661406 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the debian unstable faq is good < 1375850016 82017 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I use sid on my server? < 1375850016 282105 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you insane? No! < 1375850030 134103 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ableism~ < 1375850410 824073 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :status: once again drinking scotch out of a mongodb mug < 1375850918 632995 :liberty__!~liberty@nc-67-233-234-45.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375851097 923370 :liberty__!~liberty@nc-67-233-234-45.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PART #esoteric :"Ex-Chat" < 1375851111 653794 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what's the sh do? randomly kill sound devices until they're all stopped? < 1375851446 213089 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :removes kernel modules yeah < 1375851454 393427 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause I can't be bothered to figure out the dependency graph < 1375851460 383118 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially when lsmod only shows part of it seemingly < 1375851600 459851 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k Forall a. [a] < 1375851601 162814 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Illegal symbol '.' in type < 1375851601 363109 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you intended -XRankNTypes or similar flag < 1375851601 363244 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : to enable explicit-forall syntax: forall . < 1375851610 227669 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k forall a. [a] < 1375851611 563102 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Illegal symbol '.' in type < 1375851611 763883 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you intended -XRankNTypes or similar flag < 1375851611 763977 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : to enable explicit-forall syntax: forall . < 1375851614 553365 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://medium.com/geek-empire-1/a1ebd2b4a0e5 is a good essay. bruce fucking sterling < 1375851625 144976 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1375851646 696608 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are laptops still stupid about overcharging batteries these days < 1375851663 97188 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are u still stupid these days #owned < 1375851685 703598 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes :( < 1375851691 843974 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cablegate is disappointing because apparently nobody's actually bothered reading the cables? some of them are pretty interesting! < 1375851707 523739 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of people have read them < 1375851726 973029 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but i don't know any of those people < 1375851732 387869 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do, checkmate < 1375851737 904068 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn got me < 1375851993 332218 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Julian has turned out to be a Tim Leary at the NSA’s psychiatric convention. " lol < 1375852269 309017 :neena!~neena@codesurfers.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375852495 956899 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist elevatorstuck < 1375852498 267363 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist elevatorstuck: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1375852647 798583 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375852725 805480 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375852949 598068 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375854374 849866 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375854410 408488 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375854598 13918 :douglass_!~douglass@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375855228 541490 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375855256 378048 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375855482 826916 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Not necessarily dependent. < 1375855494 881981 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1375855509 121659 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, is N a runtime value? < 1375855558 459067 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i see. < 1375856325 316763 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375856709 327660 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375857041 844623 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375858254 708911 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there the compiler C program into Dalvik VM? < 1375858335 529118 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Anyway, the thing I was saying was about fixed points of covariant functors vs. other types. < 1375858347 800558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You run into some strange things with fixed points of other types. < 1375858520 840559 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular Fix (Op a) is ""weird curry's paradox type"" < 1375858699 936379 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje < 1375859433 717324 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fix (Op a) is g = g -> a, sorta? so fix? (which makes everything inhabited or whatever) < 1375859512 924342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's newtype Rec a = Rec (Rec a -> a) < 1375859526 962989 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so yes) < 1375859532 193515 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1375859557 693033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :To the first part, anyway. I'm not sure what the rest means? < 1375859572 571783 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither < 1375859604 933624 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about how fix existing means all types have something in them which means everything is true in curry-howard and a type theorist comes around to my house and smashes up my windows < 1375859652 960858 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can use this type to write fix, but I'm not what you have in mind. < 1375859691 989940 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not what i have in mind either < 1375859708 374802 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, _|_ is what corresponds to using Curry's paradox to prove anything. < 1375860110 799405 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375860213 725647 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could trick the type theorist into believing that your house is uninhabited. < 1375860927 464175 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I saw a thing to compile C to JVM via MIPS, presumably you could feed that into the Dalvik compiler < 1375860935 422958 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you can also run C code natively on most android devices < 1375860949 587934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you have to compile it first < 1375860960 45004 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hey compile it with emscripten and then run it in Rhino < 1375860960 45189 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many ways < 1375860986 203468 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just boxes and arrows < 1375860993 794055 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think native code is only supported on android newer than 1.5 < 1375861094 599290 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375861503 656553 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written some C programs and maybe if someone want to work it in Android too, such as the "Aimfiz" Z-machine interpreter, is meant for SDL but maybe someone can port to Android since I think Aimfiz is the least buggy Z-machine interpreter as far as I can see (tell me if you do find a bug). < 1375862800 335799 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375864015 442289 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375864092 222987 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375865624 475766 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a generic port for SDL stuff on Android; things like OpenTTD, Ur-Quan Masters and such run on it. < 1375865745 830737 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It does need native code suppot.) < 1375865925 612954 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the NDK is sufficiently good and supported that people haven't really spent time on turning C to Dalvik bytecode; the few "Dalvik backend for LLVM" projects I can see seem quite dead. < 1375866005 384476 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375866989 766049 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1375867008 69302 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375870736 407519 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :``I'm The 14-Year-Old Who Wrote The "Jesus Isn't A Dick So Keep Him Out of My Vagina" Sign In Texas And Was Labeled A "Whore" By Strangers Online'' < 1375870740 759734 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `I'm: not found < 1375870883 118021 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Maybe then it helps, if someone wants to play a Z-machine game on Android using the Aimfiz interpreter engine instead of some other one. With a keyboard you might even work it without a lot of changes, but if you don't have a keyboard then you will need to put an on-screen keyboard, and the "mouse menus" (of Z-code v5) might be helpful too. < 1375870946 502687 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1375870990 1167 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I have absolutely no idea how the Z-machine version 5 mouse menus are supposed to work; the only things I know is this: There are four menus called the directions menu, inventory menu, frequent verbs menu, and frequent words menu. The extension table contains pointers to tables corresponding to these menus, and there is a bitfield to indicate of the menu has been changed. < 1375871013 39797 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The format of these tables is unknown. < 1375871652 342574 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375871662 21017 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi there < 1375871670 57308 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is deciode here? < 1375871689 673835 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello. I don't know "deciode", sorry < 1375871697 852136 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it you wanted? < 1375871765 755556 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry for da panic... he made a port of MSM implementation to Ruby, then suggested a new operator, then _suddenly_ disappeared when I implemented what he asked for :) < 1375871771 607585 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and didn't update his port < 1375871819 567324 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what to do about that, but you could mention that on the esolang wiki too < 1375871823 854369 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/MSM < 1375871834 483361 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see Discussion page < 1375871858 829897 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I did mention it in See Also, that his port is incomplete < 1375871861 545668 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already have that open. < 1375871933 40723 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you post your implementation on there? < 1375871946 145104 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did < 1375871967 486034 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/MSM#Implementations - both are mine < 1375871986 31968 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/plugnburn/6150089- this is the reference one < 1375871995 588245 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/plugnburn/6150089 < 1375872013 77745 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1375872194 192269 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I write down things about dreams I have had and what others have told me. Someone once told me his dream where the doctor asked him if he had ever been to the moon, he answered no, and then the doctor asked him to prove it; the doctor couldn't help him if he could not prove that he has never been to the moon. < 1375872293 162640 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice :) someone told me Underload is Turing-complete but I can't yet prove MSM is Turing complete by translating its code to Underload. Is there a doctor that can help me? :) < 1375872341 965565 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they are a doctor of esoteric programming, then maybe. < 1375872394 534939 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, gonna go, have a nice day < 1375872424 808347 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1375872431 274617 :plugnburn!2539116c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.57.17.108 PART :#esoteric < 1375873372 162088 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1375873451 885024 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :JSON or s-expressions? You better brush up both ;-) < 1375873472 780722 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/ICFPContest2013 < 1375873509 476913 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am traouble with s-expression, guys what comes after left bananna ? < 1375873810 808752 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m not sure you can really do anything about that, just accept the feeling of imbalance. < 1375874578 314937 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375875476 445765 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375875988 656072 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The Android version of SDL includes a built-in onscreen keyboard for keyboardless devices, I believe. < 1375877702 18608 :BlueShark!BlueShark@unaffiliated/blueshark NICK :KrahSeulB < 1375877709 167388 :KrahSeulB!BlueShark@unaffiliated/blueshark NICK :BlueShark < 1375878882 104369 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375879535 32641 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375879552 58684 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375879568 121403 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1375880224 489647 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375880256 880759 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good ff23 morning! < 1375880294 570781 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :still stuck in boston < 1375880301 681209 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could get a car if there were a driver < 1375880361 859107 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375880389 291075 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1375880389 678108 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KBOS < 1375880390 20023 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KBOS 071254Z 15005KT 10SM BKN250 21/16 A3019 RMK AO2 SLP221 T02060161 < 1375880440 604036 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: why not enjoy the weather? the nice food courts? the new england accent? < 1375880454 211174 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would enjoy the weather more on the trail, hiking < 1375880458 263156 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i am tired of city < 1375880468 740002 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a pleasant high for the day tho < 1375880586 436663 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :strangely, for an outdoor activity, it's difficult to go hiking without a car. < 1375882008 834390 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHAAAAAARGH! I don't have time to read the new Monad Reader issue! but the temptation is strong... < 1375882013 979202 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :must resist... < 1375882018 240071 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill read it for you < 1375882219 174655 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :first two articles are old hat and 3rd it too complicated to bother reading < 1375882435 565863 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have to feel the old hattery by myself, and the be surrounded by warm and fuzzy complexification! < 1375882475 815299 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's this need, nay, this gaping hole in my heart that can only be filled by a floating spacesuit stuffed with oranges and apples. < 1375883284 37915 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, the first article is meh. < 1375883822 355439 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375885376 175070 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1375885445 788966 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1375885446 238420 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 071400Z 14008KT 30SM SCT055 BKN075 BKN240 22/14 A3006 RMK SC4AC2CI1 SLP179 DENSITY ALT 800FT < 1375886245 828267 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1375886272 281704 :oerjan_!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1375886407 149969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1375886433 809463 :oerjan_!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no NICK :oerjan < 1375887125 374999 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375887825 486175 :impomatic!~john_metc@81-178-154-68.dsl.pipex.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375888270 555150 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a way out of boston! < 1375888276 904316 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dances with boily < 1375888336 99390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, you're moving to SF? < 1375888344 278974 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel danced... < 1375888355 491458 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish < 1375888409 932477 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this song is strangely catchy < 1375888524 678616 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375888586 374332 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375889220 814934 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tinysubversions.com/stuff/thisJustIn/ < 1375889575 154158 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375890034 340422 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375891029 67603 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1375891746 314428 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-231-61.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375891754 774761 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1375891772 391762 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-172-180.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375892051 742327 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you sometimes have dream where you are a different person and/or a different species? < 1375892069 479077 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-172-180.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1375892171 900672 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my dreams are boring. there's no sound, no people, no movement, and I tend to do nothing in still places. < 1375892265 230796 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds kinda boring, yeah < 1375892405 317798 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the Android version of SDL include a on-screen keyboard for keyboardless devices, well, still might it be useful to customize it? Does it include to customize the on-screen keyboard? (For example, to include the Z-machine keys, and other things, like in Aimfiz you use CTRL+T to select the transcript slot and CTRL+L for scrollback, etc, and it can also change depending on context) < 1375892438 298808 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-172-180.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't actually type letters on my android phone, i use the swipey thing < 1375892460 715325 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-172-180.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i think would work fine for an adventure game... < 1375892482 487125 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Swipe, swipe, swipe the monsters < 1375892491 173930 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Swiftly out of the screeeeeeeen < 1375892551 4839 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, you might need functions keys, and sometimes it is single-key input and sometimes full-line input, sometimes timed, and there are some control functions in Aimfiz too... < 1375892633 894981 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-172-180.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have virtual buttons, like all the game machine emulators < 1375892683 209824 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably customizing the on-screen keyboard to have those functions would help it; if you have a physical keyboard with all the necessary keys then you don't need those < 1375892699 574735 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-172-180.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why's it have to be part of the keyboard? < 1375892746 887195 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose, so that you can hide it together with the rest of the keyboard, and so that if you have a physical keyboard then you can use that instead. < 1375892821 280361 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, that is what I would think it would be. < 1375892828 772862 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think it would be otherwise? < 1375892836 17490 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd go crazy trying to play interactive fiction games on my phone < 1375892917 296342 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might, too (I don't have a cell phone; I make computer stuff on computer instead), but some people would like to be able to play this game on a Android phone/tablet. < 1375892970 340878 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there are already some Z-machine interpreters for such device but they are buggy software and you might want to port the Aimfiz interpreter engine which seems to be more accurate. < 1375893073 340399 :Lumpio-!~matti@250.ip-46-105-18.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1375893413 132559 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Current version of the 'postgresql' metapackage (it depends on the supported PostgreSQL version, currently 9.1) in debian-unstable: "9.3+142really9.1+146". < 1375893547 602818 :Lumpio-!~matti@250.ip-46-105-18.eu QUIT :Quit: splut sprellas < 1375893630 658367 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1375893637 790647 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's nice < 1375893655 838058 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1375893761 760206 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Why < 1375893791 694940 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I don't know, but I'm sure it's some sort of versioning mishap combined with "can't make version numbers smaller" thing. < 1375893815 105758 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :apt doesn't have anything like an epoch? < 1375893892 263769 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We only give the most basic definitions of categories, functors, and natural transformations. For a gentler introduction, with more details and examples, see e.g. Mac Lane [29]. < 1375893957 532699 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It does; that'd be something like 1:9.1+146, which, admittedly, would look nicer. < 1375893964 275851 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If there's no colon, the epoch is zero.) < 1375893997 689958 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, yes?? < 1375893998 931321 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375894008 887459 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they're planning to make 9.3 the supported version in unstable/testing anyway soon-enough, and didn't want to bump up the epoch. Who knows. < 1375894028 804465 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1375894051 53462 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1375894065 729376 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They just want their mistake to be forgotten instead of being forever encoded as the epoch. < 1375894141 877258 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could they put a feature of temporary epoch? < 1375894144 542930 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yeah, they'd avoid an epoch if it was just to work around a temporary bug. < 1375894165 35254 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The epochs are just a string property of version numbers, there's no meaning to "temporaryness" of them. < 1375894266 383766 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-172-180.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375894305 346312 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-199-215.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375894708 872725 :ssue__!uid5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hmxoferhhshgerjn JOIN :#esoteric < 1375894750 409226 :ssue__!uid5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hmxoferhhshgerjn NICK :ssue < 1375895429 233666 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1375895512 773012 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I meant if they would add such a feature to the package manager, so that there is also another kind of temporary epoch as well. < 1375895942 640127 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what does "temporary" mean? You don't want for it to be temporary in time, because a version which is numerically lower should FOREVER be newer than a version which is numerically higher, but also older than a different version which is numerically higher. < 1375896048 313844 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unable to start X session --- no '~/.xsession' file, no '~/.Xsession' file, no session managers, no window managers, and no terminal emulators found; aborting." Such a desperate-sounding error. < 1375896063 18055 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you would have to specify what version it overrides; sometimes a version overrides another one, such as if a new version is made up but you need an old version to override it, or for another reason; an explicit "override" section might do. < 1375896289 469629 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then you need all relevant versions (the global ordering) to create a local ordering, or you need for the version to specify EVERY version it overrides, which could include versions by third parties or not in the repo. e.g. 9.3+142really9.1+146 presumably also overrides 9.2+whatever, but it didn't need to specify that because 9.3+142 is numerically greater than 9.2+whatever. < 1375896516 861427 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375896606 383280 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-199-215.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375896696 997312 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375896716 369304 :ka7la!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1375896859 214227 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1375897207 110276 :ka7la!~katla@unaffiliated/katla NICK :katla < 1375897377 860940 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bleh, this thing has the thing where altgr-space generates U+00a0 (a non-break space), and I keep typing it after every | because | here comes from altgr-[the key with <, > and |] and then it's all "bash: $'\302\240less': command not found". < 1375897437 901201 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where "the thing" = xkb_symbols configuration. < 1375897463 980503 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ...disable it < 1375897535 523865 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: finnish keyboard layout? < 1375897661 879057 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Do you happen to know if I can easily setxkbmap it dead? (I've been trying out a life without a desktop environment lately.) < 1375897675 155421 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375897683 905487 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn it < 1375897689 26272 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :im excited about icfp < 1375897705 458823 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really want to see what the goal is < 1375897732 260182 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't know about "easily" but you can make a copy of the symbols file and make the change and setxkbmap | xkbcomp that < 1375897773 757081 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll do something like that. < 1375897779 332346 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: My sincere suggestion: the US International (AltGr dead keys) layout. It’s great. < 1375897841 755047 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I need food < 1375897894 782645 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have ready access to freshly made bánh mì near our offices. < 1375897935 221114 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :good for you < 1375898360 381756 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1375898362 405303 :ka7la!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1375898618 244453 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375898742 747734 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375898795 516875 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote `relcome sacje < 1375898798 811619 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375898806 853589 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome sacje < 1375898810 159727 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​10sacje:06 Welcome to th13e03 i09nternat11ion09al hub for10 08esote08ri05c program05ming langu12age desig04n08 and05 de03ployme12nt! F10o07r more i06nf07or14matio06n, check05 10out our wiki: http://esola05ngs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (04For the12 other kind of esoterica, try10 #esot09eric on irc.da09l.13net.) < 1375898824 223613 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks boily < 1375898829 19125 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thank boily < 1375898830 184885 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: thank: not found < 1375898836 297904 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, worth a shot < 1375898839 595450 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks boily < 1375898840 935994 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, boily. Thoily. < 1375898845 115727 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1375898847 519473 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1375898852 342979 :ka7la!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks HackEgo < 1375898853 845233 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, HackEgo. ThackEgo. < 1375898870 420161 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hi HackEgo < 1375898871 636455 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: hi: not found < 1375898995 220355 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -re 's/\/H/; s/\/H/' bin/hi && chmod +x bin/hi && cat bin/hi < 1375898999 388307 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl \ $_ = (join " ", @ARGV) || `words`; s/^\s+|\s+$//g; print "Hi $_. "; if (/[aeiouy]/) { s/^[^aeiouy]*/H/; } else { s/^./H/; } print "$_."; < 1375899008 478620 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hi HackEgo < 1375899009 860052 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi HackEgo. HackEgo. < 1375899083 977256 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: You should make bin/þanks < 1375899102 211672 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no u < 1375899159 772553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no þx < 1375899235 390747 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hi carcinogens < 1375899236 481666 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi carcinogens. Harcinogens. < 1375899271 328957 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i -re 's/aeiouy/aeiouyAEIOUY/g' bin/thanks bin/hi && cat bin/thanks < 1375899274 708178 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl \ $_ = (join " ", @ARGV) || `words`; s/^\s+|\s+$//g; print "Thanks, $_. "; if (/[aeiouyAEIOUY]/) { s/^[^aeiouyAEIOUY]*/Th/; } else { s/^./T/; } print "$_."; < 1375899287 225241 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The i flag would have worked, too, but whatever. < 1375899308 704792 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks < 1375899311 389714 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hi GUYS < 1375899312 446403 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi GUYS. HUYS. < 1375899313 611222 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, therery. Therery. < 1375899401 959132 :ka7la!~katla@unaffiliated/katla NICK :katla < 1375899462 674177 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hi  < 1375899464 54006 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi . H. < 1375899494 468438 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :therery??? < 1375899507 414920 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hi Hi < 1375899508 851127 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi Hi. Hi. < 1375899509 773947 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1375899526 573609 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :im too excited about icfp < 1375899528 435093 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1375899532 82437 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: it should support vowels in other languages < 1375899532 363658 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat icfp < 1375899533 811994 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: icfp: No such file or directory < 1375899539 411030 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? icfp < 1375899539 653759 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :as soon as i find out what its about ill stop carig < 1375899541 13899 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :icfp? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1375899541 276710 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a [[:vowely:]] < 1375899541 508560 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1375899541 743279 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         º¯`\o < 1375899571 140809 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, the new IOCCC sizing tool counts keywords as 1 character. < 1375899576 420309 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's no benefit to #defining them away. < 1375899579 96141 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /dev/urandom > dog < 1375899579 572703 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: go look at some Java. it will help you feel better. < 1375899580 274812 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /dev/urandom > dog: No such file or directory < 1375899581 242022 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yeah. Too bad there’s no “vowel” character class. I guess we could use Unidecode and then match against its result. < 1375899590 772006 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1375899616 568764 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Shakespear < 1375899618 78452 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :884) what is this set? sounds like shakespear Yes, that's what people often say about Chrono Trigger. < 1375899619 631340 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMMIT < 1375899623 727435 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1375899627 301818 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that was surprising < 1375899641 505435 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote cat < 1375899643 35818 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :105) what's the data of? [...] Locations in a now deceased game called Mutation I have no problems with you being interested in online games but the necrophilia is disturbing \ 113) CakeProphet: reading herbert might be enlightening in one hand he held a long worm can be greased. twice i got it nearly th < 1375899665 473506 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1375899670 455299 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Locations < 1375899672 518184 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Took at while < 1375899697 227799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote kitten < 1375899698 683438 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :756) i once had a dream when i was told to look after some kittens but they were made of chocolate and i ate them :( < 1375899712 724238 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote `quote < 1375899714 288748 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :310) `quote django ​352) django is named after a person? thought it would be a giraffe or something thankfully only one \ 311) `quote django ​352) django is named after a person? thought it would be a giraffe or something \ 407) `quote django < 1375899732 41725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quine < 1375899732 268601 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote `quote `quote < 1375899733 361919 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375899735 263972 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`quote `quote `quote < 1375899745 67197 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1375899746 411350 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :a.c \ a.out \ bi \ bin \ canary \ delvs \ delvs-master \ etc \ factor \ hi-bool.bf \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ multiply.bf \ no \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ wisdom < 1375899753 613231 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 407 < 1375899755 233942 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :407) The Russian's emblem was the hammer and sickle, not the fist and other fist < 1375899761 20105 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh =P < 1375899762 379714 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1375899763 170345 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :agh < 1375899768 703094 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha < 1375899770 120152 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cd karma < 1375899771 222572 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: cd: not found < 1375899774 332957 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww =P < 1375899776 230886 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 311 < 1375899777 798427 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :311) `quote django ​352) django is named after a person? thought it would be a giraffe or something \ 407) `quote django ​352) django is named after a person? thought it would be a giraffe or something thankfully only one thankfully only two < 1375899785 344261 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls karma < 1375899786 979096 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :karma < 1375899791 951543 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow confusin imo < 1375899798 305810 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat karma < 1375899799 673016 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregoR now has 1 karma. < 1375899805 934486 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_0 < 1375899807 43178 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sensible. < 1375899814 22755 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/karma < 1375899815 360067 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ echo "$1 has $(lib/karma "$1") karma." < 1375899817 479620 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what you meant, probably < 1375899835 208223 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, why is it in lib. < 1375899841 499449 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there seems to be a karma, erm, thing in the root? < 1375899849 268201 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat lib/karma < 1375899850 893495 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ count () { \ hg log --template '{desc}\n' | \ egrep '<[^]]*> karma\'$1 | \ fgrep -vix "<$2> karma$1 $2" | \ cut -d' ' -f3 | \ fgrep -cix "$2" \ } \ plus=$(count + "$1") \ minus=$(count - "$1") \ echo $(($plus-$minus)) < 1375899864 699260 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i love how horrible everything about these things are < 1375899896 23059 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably the file in the root is just there by mistake. < 1375899896 868730 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`touch god < 1375899899 103081 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1375899900 624858 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375899903 823606 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`touch dog < 1375899906 992463 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375899908 723678 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm karma < 1375899908 987757 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat dog < 1375899911 817126 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375899913 950368 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375900072 121543 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot how cute lib/karma is < 1375900098 575191 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /dev/null < 1375900099 982952 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375900121 756386 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck karma < 1375900122 252191 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Karma in Indian religions is the concept of "action" or "deed", understood as that which causes the entire cycle of cause and effect. < 1375900169 247207 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duck Karma is gained by being gentle with your corkscrew penis. < 1375900262 273483 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog kmc.*essay < 1375900296 318411 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.15627 < 1375900338 600934 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1375900345 831325 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot pls play that shit game again < 1375900346 145961 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was a conversation < 1375900354 301508 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was like "NOTHING FOLLOWS" < 1375900360 186330 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"WHY DON'T I UNDERSTAND" < 1375900419 262452 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: I'm traumatised by it < 1375900424 613445 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have to forget about it before I can play again < 1375900428 883763 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but it's been like weeks < 1375900434 603530 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha ok < 1375900435 796029 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you forgot about it for sure. < 1375900438 62745 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: if you played it < 1375900440 376437 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would understand < 1375900446 912541 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would i ever play it? < 1375900533 295528 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the boink are we talking about... < 1375900544 238895 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dot Action 2, greatest game in the universe < 1375900552 699677 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://offgao.no-ip.org/game/dotact2/ < 1375900615 480187 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no. no no no no no no. that thing is still alive? < 1375900716 317826 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as there is evil in the hearts of humanity, it will live < 1375900865 813302 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit < 1375900872 595543 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That floor is electrified or something < 1375900898 329689 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's lava. anyone who tells you it isn't lava is a cretin < 1375900911 627568 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright < 1375900935 667614 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the grey stuff is water < 1375900961 724404 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That I understood < 1375900977 323497 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :After getting elec^H^H^H^Hburnt to a crisp < 1375900977 571393 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's electricity < 1375900983 70370 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says so in the instructions. < 1375900995 593701 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even offgao can be wrong. < 1375901002 957352 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes "Lumpio- is a cretin" in his notes < 1375901010 605819 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is unreasonable to expect him to understand his own game. dot action 2 is bigger than any of us < 1375901086 33013 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :.__. < 1375901171 100958 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the FM music though < 1375901172 741239 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot < 1375901794 286261 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1375901809 464927 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375901840 137311 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1375901849 463761 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo NICK :LimeJaune < 1375901877 812821 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net NICK :BleuetBleu < 1375901917 223206 :BleuetBleu!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LimeJaune: j'aurais bien voulu avoir pris CitronVert, mais il semblerait qu'un autre tarlan que moi en soit l'utilisateur courant. < 1375901933 804381 :LimeJaune!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup =P < 1375901936 664903 :LimeJaune!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the joke =P < 1375901941 423292 :BleuetBleu!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aurgh. < 1375901941 703235 :LimeJaune!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :#electrolab < 1375901994 4961 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not understand it in French very well. < 1375902023 275372 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a tarlan? < 1375902058 275601 :LimeJaune!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moron =P < 1375902079 825631 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :LimeJaune: Hey, all he did was ask a question! That's not nice. < 1375902101 353738 :LimeJaune!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1375902149 74201 :LimeJaune!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo NICK :Roujo < 1375902189 704472 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Who are you, anyway? Whence do you know oerjan? < 1375902263 568247 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a whence? < 1375902269 495477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"from where" < 1375902272 304808 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh ^^ < 1375902276 873796 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :##nomic < 1375902282 284737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1375902353 887579 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl a b c = map ((flip d) c) b < 1375902356 994226 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :a = id (fix (const (flip (map . flip d)))) < 1375902357 194882 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue. < 1375902375 24308 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks sensible < 1375902398 944059 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl-resume < 1375902404 947627 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :a = id (fix (const (flip (map . flip d)))) < 1375902405 150505 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue. < 1375902408 975845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Oh, did I mention @pl? < 1375902418 683540 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dern < 1375902431 264715 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf@carbon:~$ pointfree 'a b c = map ((flip d) c) b' < 1375902431 465246 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a = flip (map . flip d) < 1375902431 665670 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did it put "id" at the front? < 1375902432 234104 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1375902460 507743 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That is better. < 1375902472 248817 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: elliott probably knows about @pl already < 1375902487 394505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but we were talking about what recently broke in lambdabot. < 1375902504 344176 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: @pl initially compiles Haskell code using a very direct process to a point-free form and then optimizes it by e.g. eliminating "id". < 1375902523 13390 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375902527 936739 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does it make like that though? It didn't eliminate "id", and it did other things too. < 1375902550 584801 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's broken right now. I don't know why. < 1375902667 878501 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl f x = id x < 1375902668 79576 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :f = id < 1375902672 369084 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl f x = id (id x) < 1375902672 569975 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :f = id < 1375902681 253927 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't know? that's not very helpful < 1375902752 704866 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i never said it was helpful hth < 1375902786 545984 :BleuetBleu!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net NICK :boily < 1375902807 910240 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does hth mean? < 1375902829 98076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope that helped < 1375902833 525212 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1375902835 817362 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope that helps < 1375902838 874144 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool ^^ < 1375902842 583225 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks =) < 1375902863 724202 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually read it as happy to help < 1375902901 342919 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because I think that goes better with completely unhelpful statements) < 1375902904 667579 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1375902906 334856 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1375902952 816145 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>okay.png < 1375903070 737067 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION draws a bahth < 1375903131 915006 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do mehth kids < 1375903154 713921 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :4d8+20 < 1375903154 957065 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 21 + 20 => 41 < 1375903162 148794 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's bad for your teehth) < 1375903191 795371 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dice 4 8 < 1375903192 906225 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: dice: not found < 1375903196 524310 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~dice 4 8 < 1375903196 724445 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 1 2 4 3 2 3 4 --- Sum = 22 < 1375903264 720850 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FurryScript also includes dice function, including such feature as drop-lowest and glitch. If you have PHP then maybe you can even install it on the IRC too. < 1375903303 250175 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1d3 < 1375903303 492638 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 3 < 1375903345 206944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: liar < 1375903431 981065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1375903886 904991 :eitow!~ddd@115.254.89.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375904013 585850 :eitow!~ddd@115.254.89.117 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375904039 282675 :eitow!~ddd@115.254.89.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375904082 218606 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~dice 3 < 1375904082 456938 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 --- Sum = 1 < 1375904144 555202 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1d(1d4) < 1375904184 604857 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what is the expected value of a Xd(YdZ) throw? < 1375904279 87516 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375904379 775519 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1375904383 150355 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375904430 674456 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: oh hai! while you're there, would you kindly answer to the The Question, namely what are your approximate coördinates and body weigh? as a bonus, you'll even surpass Bike as the first Glorious Entry in my file. < 1375904524 519101 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a creepy thing to ask a person. < 1375904549 256834 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like the kind of questions one asks on Grindr. < 1375904598 466862 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck grindr < 1375904598 667880 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grindr is a geosocial networking application geared towards gay, bisexual, and bi-curious men. < 1375904638 775773 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. uhm. in my capacity as a Certified Canadian, I truthfully attest that I'm not creepy. < 1375904664 556608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: For 1d(1dX) it should be (X+2)/3 or something like that? < 1375904688 336018 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I can also bribe you with a box of timbits. < 1375904703 55588 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what timbits are... < 1375904709 725990 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless they're bits of people named Tim. < 1375904733 685707 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily really, really ~really~ needs to know the centroid of esoteric < 1375904736 965851 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which just places you in the snuff version of Grindr. < 1375904779 173583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that's not right. < 1375904803 875883 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: timbits are donut holes from tim hortons. a traditional Canadian delicacy (that is actually edible, contrary to salmiakki). < 1375904815 927238 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I do. < 1375904822 904224 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: once he finds it he's going to get there whatever it takes and set up his base. < 1375904829 106274 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the scheming begins. < 1375904841 605804 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will be powered by the magnetic force of all the esoteric around it < 1375904841 806652 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no idea about the dice dice throw. I suck at probs. and stats., so that's why I asked you the question. < 1375904858 726189 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's why I gave you a nonsense answer. < 1375904879 45666 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION duck tapes elliott to mute him. “Hush! Don't reveal my plans!” < 1375904965 368174 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or he's trying to like < 1375904974 815654 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :play subset-sum with our weights < 1375904983 486089 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"find a group of #esoteric members whose weights sum to 350kg" < 1375905004 116748 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean their weighs? < 1375905005 687951 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live in Indiana and weigh 15 tons. < 1375905018 388672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You left SF? :-( < 1375905024 946453 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It was an internship. < 1375905032 336126 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1375905034 36008 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still. < 1375905045 114174 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor are you a tractor trailer < 1375905068 385896 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I'm an American and I'm just BIG BONED. < 1375905083 195672 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor has neutronium bones < 1375905275 536551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: So the expected value of 1d(1dX) is actually (X+3)/4, I guess. < 1375905440 98812 :eitow!~ddd@115.254.89.117 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375905494 946995 :eitow!~ddd@115.254.89.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375905559 537220 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome eitow < 1375905561 816638 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​03eitow:10 Welc14ome02 to05 th08e 06inter04national 11h11ub for eso11teric prog06ra03mmin03g langu03age de13sig03n and deployment! For m11ore informa06tion, check o08ut08 our02 12wiki07:07 h03ttp:/03/esolangs.or07g/wiki/Main_Page.07 (For the other kind of esoterica, t13r04y #esoteric on 13irc.dal.net.) < 1375905563 919449 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375905580 916581 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: subset-summing #esoteric sounds like an interesting idea. < 1375905837 371043 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm the kind of person to just wing this kind of problem into matlab/octave and brute force through multiple tries. < 1375905847 977653 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess there's a reason I became an engineer) < 1375905952 821590 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1375906137 907144 :eitow!~ddd@115.254.89.117 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375906180 955119 :eitow!~ddd@115.254.89.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375906304 488844 :eitow!~ddd@115.254.89.117 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375906337 316893 :eitow!~ddd@115.254.89.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375906452 97694 :eitow!~ddd@115.254.89.117 PART :#esoteric < 1375906749 438800 :|_!~ddd@115.254.89.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375907193 591036 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a fixed point of scheme eval that isn't a constant or self-referencing? < 1375907262 930517 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to make PulseAudio do this thing I want it to do? < 1375907273 928542 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this thing? < 1375907390 388795 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"die in a fire" < 1375907407 818725 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess bottom, if you count that < 1375907417 769948 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an USB soundcard where the volume control's dB levels (as seen by the ALSA driver) bear no resemblance to reality; in particular, it's completely muted up to a point, and then uncomfortably loud after that. It used to be so that I could just keep the card's mixer control fixed to that just-about-audible-and-loud, and compensate by lowering the per-app volumes (dynamic range is for ... < 1375907421 738683 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's ""different"" in a strict language < 1375907424 248902 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... wimps), but apparently modern Pulse merges the volume controls with a super-clever mechanism, where it takes the required adjustment and applies it... well, just read http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/PulseAudioStoleMyVolumes/ < 1375907427 398723 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah i know < 1375907442 396369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know you know < 1375907450 808932 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woa < 1375907473 848384 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says that I can disable the cleverness by a "control=" parameter to module-alsa-sink, but I haven't figured out any sensible way to apply that, esp. automagically to a single device that comes and goes. < 1375907503 179988 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And anyway I don't know if it would accept a "none" setting that'd make it not touch the wonky hardware volume control but just approximate with software.) < 1375907515 689036 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pulse audio ate my balls < 1375907531 969319 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should just go with JACK, but that's so "pro". < 1375907581 157318 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I don't have a real sound card. And all the JACK stuff is so Qt. < 1375907614 164626 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Apparently the "standard" way to do persistent per-application setups in JACK is with QjackCtl Patchbay.) < 1375907615 193256 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered replacing your sound software with piping everything to /dev/snd < 1375907625 361324 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. < 1375907627 710537 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :patchbay is pretty nice, actually. < 1375907630 728979 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: _|_ is a fixed point of all functions in a strict language < 1375907655 770482 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: there probably isn't one, if you don't count bottom < 1375907675 130711 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375907690 885990 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how Bike defines constant < 1375907701 360853 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might define constant as "something that evaluates to itself", which makes Bike's statement trivial < 1375907707 458550 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, you can write quines < 1375907713 98699 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything that's "self-evaluating?" < 1375907715 901622 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant not a cons or symbol. < 1375907728 658564 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :((lambda (x) (list x (list 'quote x))) '(lambda (x) (list x (list 'quote x)))) < 1375907736 70072 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should evaluate to itself < 1375907751 940886 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right. < 1375907759 817564 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text$ap(++)show"text$ap(++)show" < 1375907760 840934 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : text$ap(++)show"text$ap(++)show" < 1375907780 290547 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375907787 829009 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1375907794 478498 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dumb question bike < 1375907804 438460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's p. mean < 1375907804 914483 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi shachaf < 1375907805 969716 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ap(++)show"ap(++)show" < 1375907807 29004 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "ap(++)show\"ap(++)show\"" < 1375907820 818395 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be mean to Bike < 1375907828 998533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :==kmc < 1375907845 549102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't think of quines either < 1375907894 306318 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the definition of a quine, isn't it < 1375907901 139317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm i guess «5» is a quine < 1375907903 768721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring quine < 1375907924 564070 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(quote (quote (quote (quote ...)))) is cooler anyway < 1375908066 552450 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1375908099 259373 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome clog < 1375908101 749051 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​05clog: Welcome t02o the international hub for e14soteric02 p05rogr02amming language desig04n and deployment! Fo12r mor05e07 infor04mation, ch02ec06k o13ut12 our wiki: http://esola06ngs.or08g/wiki11/Mai11n_P07age. (F03or 11t04he other 10ki14nd 12of e03sot13erica05, try #esoteric on irc14.da09l06.net.) < 1375908139 633605 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :««lambda «x» «list x «list 'quote x»»» '«lambda «x» «list x «list 'quote x»»»» < 1375908183 170831 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo use “” < 1375908189 955748 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :“best lisp” < 1375908190 239583 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo use 「」. < 1375908227 919487 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought of kiforget's theorem but forgot how to relevantly apply it < 1375908231 120663 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, you could always use sha- and -chaf. htnqh. < 1375908253 608833 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: oh that i was thinking about the other day actually < 1375908267 189975 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather, how different combinatory calculi would work with infinite strings < 1375908292 658733 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski of kkkkkkk... is itself, but with sss... i'm not sure, besides that the first letter is still s < 1375908312 280902 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :````... is just bupkis, i dunno < 1375908313 590374 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ```...: not found < 1375908322 509160 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame < 1375908429 670195 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that s(s(s(s(... < 1375908442 562963 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ran it for a little while and then got bored < 1375908467 459539 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ...(((ss)s)s)s < 1375908480 489402 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kleen. why did i think it was klein? blugh < 1375908484 999202 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kleene rather < 1375908552 89356 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :¿¿lambda ¿x? ¿list x ¿list 'quote x??? '¿lambda ¿x? ¿list x ¿list 'quote x???? < 1375908589 320391 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> filter (\x -> generalCategory x == InitialQuote) ['\0'..] < 1375908590 900770 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\171\8216\8219\8220\8223\8249\11778\11780\11785\11788\11804\11808" < 1375908593 960022 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text $ filter (\x -> generalCategory x == InitialQuote) ['\0'..] < 1375908595 549879 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : «‘‛“‟‹⸂⸄⸉⸌⸜ < 1375908601 599579 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ff < 1375908606 240543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does not look quite right......................... < 1375908608 610675 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~fffffffffffffffff < 1375908609 30 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1375908616 329778 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KSFO < 1375908616 871487 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KSFO 071956Z 23010G14KT 10SM FEW015 BKN022 19/11 A3011 RMK AO2 SLP195 T01940111 < 1375908635 380249 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: finally, a lisp with sensible beautiful syntax < 1375908647 130239 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean javascript? < 1375908675 141275 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length ['\0'..] < 1375908676 123747 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1375908676 323956 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1114112 < 1375908714 309651 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's just not a lisp if it doesn't have arbitrary criteria for inclusion, man < 1375908772 780493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :inclusion-exclusion < 1375908797 700516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :inclusion-inclusion < 1375908801 840240 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> logBase 2 $ length ['\0'..] < 1375908802 899987 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Float.Floating GHC.Types.Int) < 1375908803 100931 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of... < 1375908812 891006 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> logBase 2 . fromIntegral $ length ['\0'..] < 1375908814 50006 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 20.08746284125034 < 1375908820 269741 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo call it 20 < 1375909011 399900 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :utf-20.1 < 1375909032 680663 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> reverse $ unfoldr (\x -> if x == 0 then Nothing else Just (mod x 2, div x 2)) (length ['\0'..]) < 1375909033 750345 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0] < 1375909075 486987 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1375909085 129905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you could fit 3 codepoints in a 64-bit word with enough bits left over to tag it as not a pointer < 1375909086 160009 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> binary # length ['\0'..] < 1375909087 660038 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "100010000000000000000" < 1375909094 500481 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :utf-lg(1114112), computable reals are the future < 1375909097 20650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yep. < 1375909098 716360 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what < 1375909106 952255 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I ported "text" to that encoding once. < 1375909111 269950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1375909112 148019 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, not the pointer tagging bit.) < 1375909140 473556 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but UTF-21? < 1375909152 850247 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(#)??? is it just ($) or am i missing something < 1375909153 130062 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: if i give you that information, you can teleport me away, so no thank you :| < 1375909153 330655 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :UCS-2.625 or whatever you might call it. < 1375909155 638492 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did it do... < 1375909156 533860 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's this again < 1375909163 489821 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't port everything but a lot of it. < 1375909181 50396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: There are various disadvantages, like not being able to (++) two strings with memcpy. < 1375909187 140632 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (#) < 1375909189 22253 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Unless you're lucky and the alignment matches.) < 1375909191 930256 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :AReview s t a b -> b -> t < 1375909205 400219 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t binary < 1375909212 198776 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "10101" ^? binary < 1375909215 206977 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just 21 < 1375909245 444125 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t showIntAtBase < 1375909261 112530 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember when I added all the bases up to 16 but edwardk made me take them out :( < 1375909269 190828 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to murder everyone involved in lens hth < 1375909279 74110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t binary < 1375909279 274228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Numeric.Lens is ion's fault hth < 1375909285 808685 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happen < 1375909286 530452 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is :t even more broken < 1375909289 110609 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this solves the problem where i'm too lazy to learn about lens) < 1375909292 636280 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type binary < 1375909300 550863 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> help < 1375909301 570711 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `help' < 1375909307 354385 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1375909308 680595 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t "help" < 1375909309 521192 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Char] < 1375909311 67947 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1375909317 623210 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t binary < 1375909327 865542 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this is a shitty bot. < 1375909437 162116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1375909496 172120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "hm" < 1375909497 100634 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "hm" < 1375909500 574346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t binary < 1375909513 391883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t map < 1375909514 230680 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> b) -> [a] -> [b] < 1375909517 10303 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the haunted value. unknowable. untypeable < 1375909522 117059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1375909540 350419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> binary < 1375909541 546538 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Data.Profunctor.Choice p0) < 1375909541 746976 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `e_1' < 1375909541 747151 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1375909545 325697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1375909561 621863 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the problem is the type is too long < 1375909564 201128 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, haven't we had that before? < 1375909564 662840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so lens is so freaky it breaks :t ? < 1375909565 792785 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,) < 1375909566 626087 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> b -> c -> d -> e -> f -> g -> h -> i -> j -> k -> l -> m -> n -> o -> p -> q -> r -> s -> t -> u -> v -> w -> x -> y -> z -> t28 -> t29 -> t30 -> t31 -> t32 -> t33 -> t34 -> t35 -> t36 -> t37 -> < 1375909566 826240 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : t38 -> t39 -> t40 -> t41 -> t42 -> (a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i, j, k, l, m, n, o, p, q, r, s, t, u, v, w, x, y, z, t28, t29, t30, t31, t32, t33, t34, t35, t36, t37, t38, t39, t40, t41, t42) < 1375909568 543188 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember a type like that. < 1375909573 32135 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,) < 1375909573 870578 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : A 77-tuple is too large for GHC < 1375909574 70783 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : (max size is 62) < 1375909574 70889 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Workaround: use nested tuples or define a data type < 1375909577 161685 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1375909584 641454 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :62, really? < 1375909591 860599 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the perfect number, imo. < 1375909606 180445 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why it's 62 < 1375909672 870807 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s a nice number in base-63. < 1375909673 71090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tuple types are defined explicitly in a module, istr a comment that something broke if they tried to expand it one step more. < 1375909743 238236 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :long long long is too long for gcc < 1375909869 228416 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds weird that a tuple breaks at that size but a data type of the same size is supposed to be ok (according to the error message's workaround) < 1375909907 601125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :grmbl changing Data-Tuple to GHC-Tuple in the platform doc url doesn't lead to the source < 1375909970 424155 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's becuase it's in ghc-prim hth < 1375910041 431398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's really no excuse for making it hard to find the real source of something < 1375910045 661660 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: https://github.com/ghc/packages-ghc-prim/blob/master/GHC/Tuple.hs hth < 1375910052 200510 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :{- Manuel says: Including one more declaration gives a segmentation fault. < 1375910117 601685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like what i recall < 1375910122 153482 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :From now on, all comments i add to any code will begin with “ion says:” < 1375910126 652871 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it say it's "Experimental" < 1375910139 771785 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tuples aren't ready for the prime time, Bike < 1375910158 892921 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I'll make my comments "shachaf says: ... hth" < 1375910164 466272 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it says copyriht 2001 and then that it's experimental < 1375910175 752512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: presumably that you cannot rely on the API not changing at any time? < 1375910179 501541 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: that only works for simon < 1375910180 2624 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a long-running experiment < 1375910191 851936 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this s some really awesome code < 1375910229 115047 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: but, but... please *kitten-like eyes with glitter and sparkles and tears* < 1375910232 275556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ...now i'm imaging ghc source full of "simon says:" < 1375910244 551081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*imagining < 1375910254 498227 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :variable < 1375910257 711346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: then i have succeeded hth < 1375910274 343493 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but the api is just, like. tuples < 1375910280 43664 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: who are you even :| < 1375910293 551469 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "(,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,," < 1375910294 593319 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 100 < 1375910300 812669 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: some random canadian, with a small collectiön of coördinates and weighs. < 1375910318 762822 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's trying to stalk everyone :< < 1375910319 178392 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You accidentally the ẗ < 1375910322 771567 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18249218/?i=6&from=/18271693/related < 1375910327 831520 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait < 1375910338 523001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: just look at the < 1375910343 841786 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I usually ¨ the #̈. < 1375910344 961818 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo relevant to this channel < 1375910356 842198 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: heresy. < 1375910360 511735 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i considered bringing up lipid polymorphism here yesterday < 1375910362 483462 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then i didn't < 1375910368 585981 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : <title>RGS2 C1114G polymorphism and body weigh - PubMed Mobile < 1375910373 683590 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! < 1375910377 441956 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the . < 1375910466 655108 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real Fast Nora’s RGS2 C1114G polymorphism and body weight gain download < 1375910494 595998 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: and no, I'm not a stalker. even if my SO says so, I'm not a stalker. < 1375910501 112209 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.< < 1375910559 202145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: s/t gain// hth < 1375910573 781827 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: thanks hand < 1375910774 554555 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What's *my* body weigh? < 1375910798 982188 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo momma so fat they had to adjust G for her < 1375910871 696057 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I still have no entry for you rebarbative rapscallion. < 1375910930 212237 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Phospholipids_aqueous_solution_structures.svg btw amphiphily < 1375910950 341984 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck amphiphily < 1375910950 580293 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1375910991 692986 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck amphiphile < 1375910991 973024 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amphiphile (from the Greek ƹ, amphis: both and ƹ, philia: love, friendship) is a term describing a chemical compound possessing both hydrophilic (water-loving, polar) and lipophilic (fat-loving) properties. < 1375911034 102738 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the Greek alphabet looked slightly different. < 1375911068 472457 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: you didn't see nothing unusual there. it's only an optical illusion caused by disturbances in the ionosphere. < 1375911090 472593 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does hypnotic handwaves towards ion < 1375911148 897079 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck amphiphile < 1375911149 164090 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amphiphile (from the Greek ƹ, amphis: both and ƹ, philia: love, friendship) is a term describing a chemical compound possessing both hydrophilic (water-loving, polar) and lipophilic (fat-loving) properties. < 1375911164 92635 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird lookin reekg < 1375911369 152930 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reekg is fine, I say! < 1375911426 269926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i smell double utf-8 encoding < 1375911566 733670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ±¼Æ¹Â | iconv -f utf-8 -t latin1 < 1375911568 272830 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ƹ < 1375911571 801160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1375911618 328871 :|_!~ddd@115.254.89.117 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375911642 633507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not. < 1375911711 643424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ±¼Æ¹Â | iconv -f utf-8 -t latin1 | iconv -f latin7 -t utf-8 < 1375911713 273634 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​±¼Ę¹Ā < 1375911717 4153 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a monad. you can return, you can join, but you can't get away from it. < 1375911721 893860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ff < 1375911731 63219 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :still remember draLinux? I actually did it http://norttimc.dy.fi/~nortti/dralinux/ < 1375911737 77156 :|_!~ddd@115.254.89.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375911763 724091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord ±¼Æ¹Â < 1375911765 93749 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :177 188 198 185 194 < 1375911790 553382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord ±¼Æ¹Â < 1375911790 753532 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :194 177 194 188 195 134 194 185 195 130 < 1375911805 344075 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like an iso-8859-some-random-number problem. < 1375911813 423455 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is norttimc like kmc < 1375911821 144257 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval map ord "±¼Æ¹Â" < 1375911823 638822 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): < 1375911824 763782 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval map ord "±¼Æ¹Â" < 1375911826 563004 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[177,188,198,185,194] < 1375911831 723444 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also is this website hosted on your dumpster computer. is that why it isn't loading < 1375911876 713180 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1375911880 264428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny thing, 177 is ± in latin7 as well... < 1375911917 185204 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it should load, just slowly < 1375911920 953949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord α < 1375911922 205789 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :945 < 1375911930 494205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord α < 1375911930 694419 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :206 177 < 1375911934 393816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha! < 1375911948 454062 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord ハ < 1375911949 913576 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :12495 < 1375911955 965317 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord 八 < 1375911957 423626 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :20843 < 1375911977 694432 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it loaded < 1375911982 72831 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the miracle of dumpster computers < 1375912004 313162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr 206 < 1375912004 552874 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1375912024 154645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo α¼Æ¹Â | iconv -f utf-8 -t latin1 < 1375912025 354297 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​αƹ < 1375912031 519533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...nope. < 1375912085 954252 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, most of the problem is caused by the shit router/modem/wifi access point/firewall < 1375912103 671537 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo α¼Æ¹Â | iconv -f utf-8 -t greek1 < 1375912105 253481 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :iconv: conversion to `greek1' is not supported \ Try `iconv --help' or `iconv --usage' for more information. < 1375912152 443544 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=173 ttl=47 time=12193 ms < 1375912165 673601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: latin7 is supposed to be greek, but looking at the wikipedia table the chars don't fit amphi at all < 1375912172 714678 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`uname -a < 1375912173 984333 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux umlbox 3.7.0-umlbox #1 Wed Feb 13 23:30:40 UTC 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux < 1375912183 947862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :α < 1375912186 504232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1375912198 634395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bloody newline-include paste < 1375912203 314361 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ing < 1375912329 130304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord αμφις < 1375912330 613897 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :945 956 966 953 962 < 1375912408 45294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord αμφις < 1375912408 245643 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :206 177 206 188 207 134 206 185 207 130 < 1375912421 775369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord ±¼Æ¹Â < 1375912423 55078 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :177 188 198 185 194 < 1375912463 104568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok whatever encoding it is happens to use the same as what follows 206 in utf-8 when that fits < 1375912540 90017 :kallisti!~eris@c-24-99-220-130.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375912540 290483 :kallisti!~eris@c-24-99-220-130.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1375912540 290566 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375912592 593334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the original ~duck is just the first sentence from the wikipedia article. < 1375912695 554354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm maybe... < 1375912734 334503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [ord c `mod` 256 | c <- "αμφις"] < 1375912735 264152 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [177,188,198,185,194] < 1375912772 31193 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, duck duck go sometimes pick stuff from wikipedia, and that gets forwarded to my delicious bot. < 1375912807 370331 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375912831 729728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think the problem is with your bot. you are not giving utf-8 output but instead printing unicode characters modulo 256. < 1375912847 214453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*unicode codepoints < 1375912868 624732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i think used to be the ghc default at one point < 1375912872 328285 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... uhm... may be having some Char8 problems... < 1375912889 65335 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :figures. < 1375912893 334731 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was compiler with 7.4 many myriaseconds ago. < 1375912905 634311 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/er/ed/ < 1375912948 626303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should be after the ghc IO change. although Char8 would also do this. i think using Text instead of ByteString.Char8 may be recommended? < 1375912971 424716 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. my imports from ByteString are Char8y. < 1375912983 296101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has never done anything sophisticated enough to bother going beyond String himself. < 1375912985 155026 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should have known better... < 1375913020 136617 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375913074 989895 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there's the problem that irc input is not required to be utf-8 either. < 1375913160 114985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sometimes people are using latin1 / cp1252 < 1375913180 297099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the latter is somewhat recommended fallback when input is not utf-8 < 1375913181 656395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1375913208 765417 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you know, there's a NYer article on the Majestic̈ Diæresis̈: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2012/04/the-curse-of-the-diaeresis.html < 1375913247 775678 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cp1252 is mean, nasty, and will swap your toothpaste tubes for cherry-flavoured ones. < 1375913445 325794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"She said that once, in the elevator, he told her he was on the verge of changing that style and would be sending out a memo soon. And then he died." < 1375913613 208182 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375913720 166517 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck verge < 1375913720 404345 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :verge definition: a rod or staff carried as an emblem of authority or symbol of office. < 1375913779 416014 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Keëper of the Authöritarian Stäff of the Endlëss Diæ̈resis < 1375913790 517696 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375913869 917506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think boily messed up the last one hth < 1375913911 696996 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what way? hand < 1375914183 448401 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :messed it all the way up from hand to hand < 1375914240 375079 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: in what way hand ? < 1375914240 575468 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: they say that naturally a wand of polymorph. < 1375914358 27681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Bike sssssss... = ss(ss)sss... = ss(sss)ss... = ss(ssss)s... = ss(sssss)... something tells me this doesn't converge. < 1375914358 264574 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1375914406 366567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: clearly he didn't mean to use "Diæ̈resis" hth < 1375914416 306769 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ssssss... = ss(sssssss...)? < 1375914529 1986 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: True, he should have used æ̷̈ < 1375914539 348133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: now describe the topology in which that converges twh < 1375914574 656726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord æ̷̈ < 1375914576 37385 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :230 776 823 < 1375914577 986908 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, clearly we just need to figure out a fixed point of SS :) < 1375914593 406659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord æ̈ < 1375914594 936794 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :230 776 < 1375914626 27481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: eek < 1375914710 809279 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SSy = \z. Sz(yz) = \z a. Sz(yz)a = \z a. za(yza) < 1375914734 908005 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so need an x such that x = \y z. yz(xyz) < 1375914913 437658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like one of Smullyan's puzzles. < 1375914943 387459 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, \y z. xyz = \y z. yz(xyz) < 1375914950 917826 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, xyz = yz(xyz) for all y and z < 1375914977 337204 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks easy enough to do with a fixed point combinator. < 1375915010 290402 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :x_solution = fix (\r y z -> y z r) < 1375915011 737677 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I just lost my Chromium tabs... < 1375915033 238918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know how it crashes and you get that button to Restore your old session? < 1375915058 537002 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should've used a Mozilla product hth < 1375915109 592895 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mozilla products seem to handle it worse in my experience. < 1375915174 867746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was two windows full of tabs which I have no idea how to find again. < 1375915176 938745 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Servo handles this much better imo < 1375915177 857432 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it just lost? < 1375915192 503624 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) no tabs 2) often crashes before you get the chance to create state that would be lost < 1375915212 813214 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :3) always crashes on exit < 1375915226 177634 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Look at your latest backup. < 1375915271 717194 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: (1) sounds good for my browsing habits < 1375915290 68120 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have sometimes restored Firefox session.js or whatsitsname from my backups.) < 1375915608 420747 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1375915788 575457 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1375916432 19 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :error: cannot infer an appropriate lifetime due to conflicting requirements < 1375916442 162675 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fairly poëtic as compiler errors go < 1375916558 52037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are lifetimes ever uninferrable? < 1375916579 669092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently < 1375916581 919070 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that almost sounds like an ~ATH error < 1375916593 449083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah there are lots of places where you're expected to write explicit lifetime variables < 1375916595 138486 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375916601 140523 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what`s ~ATH? < 1375916610 819065 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/~ATH < 1375916619 420517 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an esolang < 1375916689 863416 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :built around performing actions based on lifetimes of objects :3 < 1375916751 99556 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.... < 1375916797 894363 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :......................... < 1375917020 426717 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did did I do something wrong < 1375917598 121172 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc < 1375917700 552025 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he's dead. rip. < 1375917706 530777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1375917730 760545 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: (p. sure you didn't do anything wrong) < 1375917777 40615 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip / hand depending on the what the “death” wave function collapses to. < 1375917804 401005 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :.__. < 1375917807 400538 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I liked him < 1375917811 990114 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1375917824 330730 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric -v :kmc > 1375917824 926764 NAMES :#esoteric < 1375917835 961189 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :his + is gone ;_; < 1375917847 190247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :unhand me, gentlemen < 1375917879 281731 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION unhands shachaf, hth < 1375917944 170630 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i described servo as something that was seemed real cool todday < 1375917956 620949 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hugs kmc? < 1375917961 371187 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also "i'd use it if it wasn't basically a pile of rocks right now", you can put that on the back < 1375917965 851079 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: did you know the axiom of choice is equivalent to "every surjective function has a right inverse" < 1375917980 631254 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sure if you're a coward < 1375917992 950702 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1375918002 751246 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1375918003 170626 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375918004 351246 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://r6.ca/blog/20050604T143800Z.html < 1375918041 360563 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: makes sense < 1375918052 681903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i like the data: url < 1375918089 801836 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375918090 2587 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could replace all URLs with data: ones and soon we wouldn’t need web servers at all anymore! < 1375918122 963145 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1375918183 280200 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: he should fix his font imo. it's impossible to see the colons < 1375918203 352183 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :My font displays them just fine. < 1375918247 123471 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, hm < 1375918303 341035 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the mailto:%72%2e%6f%63%6f%6e%6e%6f%72%40%63%73%2e%72%75%2e%6e%6c, because no spammer spider would ever be able to decode that. < 1375918308 89274 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the link at the bottom is broken :'( < 1375918331 101433 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not dead < 1375918341 382113 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :status: not dead, not drinking scotch out of a MongoDB mug < 1375918350 195695 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. drugz < 1375918354 991192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just stupified by ~ATH < 1375918356 851532 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a good way < 1375918364 965202 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :kmc > 1375918364 988864 NAMES :#esoteric < 1375918381 200195 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my official ruling is that Fiora killed kmc but MongoDB scotch revived him < 1375918417 842446 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I’m p. sure drugz were also related to the case. hth, hand < 1375918421 852002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said *not* < 1375918463 481754 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :being not dead doesn't imply you never were dead < 1375918479 221316 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo hugz kmc to life < 1375918507 111425 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :check_this_shit_out < 1375918520 731340 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: next time you die call me and i can hugz you back to life hth < 1375918671 191416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "simplicial complex" really a thing :'( < 1375918681 391799 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you liked it...? < 1375918711 681979 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it "simplicial" like a simplex < 1375918753 672024 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375918796 572014 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found it confusing in a pleasing way < 1375918807 132048 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like this channel but more so < 1375918856 552275 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <+kmc> i found it confusing in a pleasing way <+kmc> like this channel but more so < 1375918860 364106 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1083) <+kmc> i found it confusing in a pleasing way <+kmc> like this channel but more so < 1375919033 821497 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/Programming_languages okay, have more punny programming language names then < 1375919049 492074 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIS* (disaster risk / dis asterisk) < 1375919055 742349 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^CAKE (terrible) < 1375919316 222887 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.chembark.com/2013/08/06/a-disturbing-note-in-a-recent-si-file/ "whoops" < 1375919410 662594 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1375919416 414739 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#overlyhonestmethods? <.< < 1375919440 392038 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that reminds me of my high school years :D < 1375919466 251154 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375919535 265256 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#overlyhonestcompletefraud < 1375919568 972644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/mozilla/rust/blob/master/src/libstd/hashmap.rs#L768-L770 ꙮ_ꙮ < 1375919596 182424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<Bike> oerjan: sure if you're a coward <-- wat < 1375919630 993506 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«She claimed that a company named “Duha Chemisches Katalyse-Labor” (a.k.a. “Duha”) successfully reproduced her work. An official at the company named Ralf Decter sent Columbia an electronic message to verify Sezen’s claim. The problem…the IP address of the computer that sent the message traced to the University of Heidelberg (where Sezen was studying in 2006)» reading about fraud is great < 1375919647 732667 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is it a thing about ss(ssss......ssss)sss? < 1375919709 453760 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :madrigal electromotive < 1375919855 234639 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sezen claimed that purchase requisitions did not exist for many of her combustion analyses because she obtained them in free trials." < 1375919865 192421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :λ> (unsafeCoerce (-5 :: Int8) :: Word8) < 1375919865 472423 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-5 < 1375919870 202631 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wasn't what I'd hoped for. < 1375919919 663431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1375919926 212541 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, what < 1375919926 412888 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what were you expecting? < 1375919976 153006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe 251? < 1375919990 693748 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :words are unsigned? < 1375920002 104746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, "Word" is like "Int" except unsigned. < 1375920018 458749 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I didn't know that. in that case, weird. < 1375920050 592842 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :λ> unsafeCoerce (256 :: Word16) :: Word8 < 1375920052 227036 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :256 < 1375920094 933543 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s almost as if unsafeCoerce is somehow unsafe. < 1375920102 602935 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVoI3hB4IiM the way everything is recorded now is really weird O_o < 1375920123 633062 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it using the wrong instance dictionary or something? < 1375920190 252758 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> -5 :: Word8 < 1375920191 172922 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 251 < 1375920197 972752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: That one is a bit less surprising. < 1375920201 303775 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: @_@ are those like, compressed gas canisters? < 1375920201 855169 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. < 1375920208 663368 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I see what you did there. < 1375920208 863492 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yep < 1375920224 308812 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: tagged 'lab safety' < 1375920241 753348 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: there's a thing where russian cars all have recorders in them for insurance stuff or something? < 1375920249 847427 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's nice how it's going "oooeeeoooeoeo" while everything is blowing up < 1375920254 113254 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least that's what I keep hearing when people ask why there are so many videos of russian traffic accidents < 1375920262 740709 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think it's called dashcam and yes that is the case < 1375920269 803205 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah < 1375920275 983797 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is that "insurance" by the youtube mafia < 1375920293 34520 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yorick: personally i like how the second half of the video is the driver backing up their car as far as they can < 1375920307 182783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god russian dashcams < 1375920307 383191 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: while the actual gas tanker is parking in front of it :P < 1375920311 523471 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know why this is a thing? < 1375920311 893460 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :love the soundtrack < 1375920315 593225 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: fraud < 1375920320 934051 :|_!~ddd@115.254.89.117 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375920325 523553 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, insurance fraud / scams < 1375920333 604263 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: There are claims i haven’t verified that you don’t get insurance moneyz if you didn’t get a police officer to make a report about the accident, and which participant’s bribe is greater determines the content of the report if you don’t have evidence. < 1375920343 914284 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: stop drop and DANCE < 1375920367 23053 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkIZR-CE3iY summary of the last half of the video < 1375920375 713296 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is now my second favorite russian crash video < 1375920380 803923 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :second? < 1375920394 981414 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the favorite being the one where the truck falls over, releasing a bunch of cows, which stand up and moo at everything and wander around < 1375920423 563390 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7CNR2bAh3Y < 1375920439 94749 :|_!~ddd@115.254.89.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375920469 400105 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's weird how they're all pretty much fine < 1375920475 321843 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean they slide across the road quite a bit < 1375920487 203498 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they are cows. < 1375920516 310077 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to hurt a cow. they're really quite solid. < 1375920546 364408 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375920556 605054 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They’re partially gas, though. < 1375920568 324635 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375920571 532282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<shachaf> oerjan: is it a thing about ss(ssss......ssss)sss? <-- how should i know < 1375920597 714654 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: geez < 1375920627 781733 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how the cows only seem bothered for a second < 1375920632 413155 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then they're just like welp time to start walking < 1375920636 864140 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I think I figured out how to do a cpu that does 1 opcode per cycle but has complex opcodes like add d2, [a0 + d0] < 1375920683 823648 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(provided you have at least an instruction cache, even a really simple one like the 68020's 256 byte cache) < 1375920747 824746 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :separate address registers from data registers like on the 68000, and have address calculations use address registers only, or optionally an address register plus d0 (first data register) < 1375920763 773540 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or possibly a choice of d0 or d1 < 1375920770 473775 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: holy fuck < 1375920784 273811 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at which one < 1375920787 754234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cows < 1375920790 895500 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cows. < 1375920798 384093 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't fuck with cows man < 1375920807 484076 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i learned that the hard way < 1375920812 894395 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :used to be that every year or so the neighbors' cows would get out and wander all over my neighborhood < 1375920818 953880 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got memories man. memories. bad memories < 1375920821 996292 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375921122 484280 :|_!~ddd@115.254.89.117 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375921137 825110 :|_!~ddd@115.254.89.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375921364 924456 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It can be argued that the term ‘categorification’ should be reserved for vertical categorification, since we can use ‘oidification’ for the horizontal concept." < 1375921480 974399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :categorifornication < 1375921489 217956 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375921627 785547 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: :| < 1375921630 196957 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is that from < 1375921693 265543 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the first time in my life that I've seen the term "oidification" < 1375921748 397591 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: It's what you do when you go from "group" to "groupoid". h < 1375921750 245546 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :th < 1375921978 37576 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: NihilistDandy < 1375922157 887699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one of these is the monoid -> monad thing < 1375922184 325946 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monoids are misnamed :( < 1375922195 575815 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should be called cats, and categories should be called catoids. < 1375922200 315880 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf : what happens when your categories are not really vertical or horizontal? < 1375922210 326111 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively mons, and categories would be monoids < 1375922226 815893 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the etymology of "monoid" again < 1375922246 386109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mon, oi dunno < 1375922254 485659 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :forced < 1375922256 215659 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bravo < 1375922283 396760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the mon is jamaican hth < 1375922316 537033 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the oi is british hth hand < 1375922412 236643 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bravoid < 1375922431 796006 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bravod < 1375922437 415599 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bravad < 1375922932 645869 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/156952/why-the-terminology-monoid < 1375922935 456277 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nobody knows) < 1375923009 814981 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1375923022 667484 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs 156952 < 1375923024 466390 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1375923028 517004 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1375923034 434083 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what) < 1375923039 406569 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/pastelogs < 1375923040 576959 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ cd /var/irclogs/_esoteric \ \ pasterandom() { \ if [ "$1" -gt 150 ]; then \ echo "No." \ exit \ fi \ for i in $(seq "$1"); do \ file=$(shuf -en 1 ????-??-??.txt) \ echo "$file:$(shuf -n 1 $file)" \ done | paste \ } \ \ if [ "$1" ]; then \ if expr "$1" + 0 >/dev/null 2>&1; then \ < 1375923050 497461 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try ()ing the number < 1375923060 717601 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs (156952) < 1375923073 356721 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.14019 < 1375923114 926933 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :knew i'd seen it before < 1375923157 997999 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://retractionwatch.wordpress.com/2013/08/02/thats-not-plagiarism-its-an-administrative-error/ retractionwatch is so ridic < 1375923729 960085 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :good hackego < 1375923951 727899 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375924062 470580 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375924180 939650 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375925440 600516 :|_!~ddd@115.254.89.117 QUIT : < 1375925660 80563 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375925916 101638 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://retractionwatch.wordpress.com/category/by-author/diederik-stapel/ oh gosh, they always use th same picture < 1375925984 851761 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-73-102.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375925986 920564 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-80-127.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375926207 890575 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:38 < Fiora> Bike: < 1375926208 90984 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://retractionwatch.wordpress.com/category/by-author/diederik-stapel/ oh gosh, they always use th same picture < 1375926241 280644 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-73-102.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well this is the guy who nearly got his phd taken away, which is apparently a thing that can be conceived of < 1375926244 281256 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-73-102.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Serious Business < 1375926245 493050 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-73-102.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375926307 760458 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh it's like he's smirking at me < 1375926417 211350 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-102.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://beheco.oxfordjournals.org/content/24/4/819 evopsych is one hell of a drug < 1375927078 342861 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should try to coauther with him < 1375927606 628239 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-102.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bogost.com/blog/oauth_of_fealty.shtml one of the more colorful "fuck your api" posts i've seen < 1375928504 920013 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the api deserves < 1375928506 363682 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it < 1375928599 765312 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375929081 718051 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rocking the eee pc 900 crapbook < 1375929124 190512 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kbd is small enuf that i can hold the sides and type with my thumbs < 1375929177 74060 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-102.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey is anyone in #python < 1375929203 446065 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-102.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it logged somewhere < 1375929264 75589 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody is in #python < 1375929269 576198 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :python does not exist < 1375929273 38204 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-102.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1375929277 305082 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you imagined it during one of your episodes < 1375929284 352815 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also, why? < 1375929318 740337 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-102.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i'm curious if someone is spamming #python in the same way they're doing in #lisp < 1375929341 557230 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo quotes < 1375929355 15251 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I just bit my tongue aaaaaaaaaaaaaargh < 1375929356 837022 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are they spamming < 1375929360 696654 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: D: < 1375929381 476562 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even on a manageable spot like the front or something it's right at the back to the side ow ow ow < 1375929387 181833 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-102.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not funny or anything, they just came in and linked their super cool new web thing nobody cares about, and claimed it was in lisp when somebody pointed out this was dumb < 1375929399 390180 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :link < 1375929403 715993 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-102.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :said it's based on the implementation from the 80s when pressed < 1375929405 888797 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-102.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, to the thing? < 1375929408 285078 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1375929415 660736 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a ~hunch~ < 1375929424 592993 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-102.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow am i like second-order spamming here. < 1375929428 848055 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-102.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.leapfm.com/ < 1375929443 288963 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hunch was wrong < 1375929452 616539 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this uh < 1375929456 734840 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like the hacker news software < 1375929467 294564 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-102.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah weird right < 1375929468 536932 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-102.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Sure, I chose CMUCL because it works well with cloud development and various unix systems that I work with. Has a good native code compiler but most importantly it's freely redistributable with full source code" < 1375929472 963493 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but the html source doesn't < 1375929475 794412 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-102.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vaguest description possible < 1375929476 277431 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess it's not actually Arc < 1375929521 804313 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does Bike have arcpinions < 1375929553 294521 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-102.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i stopped paying attention to arc when graham said about it that he was glad to have finally gotten rid of the "extra parentheses" in cond < 1375929564 464770 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-102.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's the most banal thing i can imagine. < 1375929596 609653 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt Lisp doesn't have syntax < 1375929603 574842 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting rid of those parentheses was a deep semantic change < 1375929620 106160 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-102.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like god CL is a fucking heap but you're not going to fix it if you seriously think that's important < 1375929637 332557 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-102.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically imagine me saying "imo uuuuuuugh" for two minutes straight. < 1375929779 282438 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-244-237.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375929902 830858 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-73-102.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375929921 936759 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-244-237.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so unrelated < 1375929930 121021 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-244-237.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried to print some medical records < 1375929938 800243 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-244-237.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and an #esoteric log came out? is coming out < 1375929939 897653 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-244-237.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help. < 1375929950 965446 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'er you're family now, Bike_ < 1375930045 444684 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-244-237.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god they're still coming < 1375930053 300173 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/zanu_pf/status/363977016086765568 stupid future < 1375930057 718934 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-244-237.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the FUCK did i do < 1375930069 581384 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we want you to know EVERYTHING, Bike_ < 1375930084 378545 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ten years of #esoteric. they're all yours now < 1375930089 585710 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-244-237.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man i got a vintage MEANWHILE IN R/BITCOIN here < 1375930092 766560 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-244-237.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gonna frame this < 1375930110 480891 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: marriage between people who want babies, like, to collect them. baby enthusiasts < 1375930123 217832 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does Mugabe still exist < 1375930128 284750 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-244-237.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1375930131 107810 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-244-237.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375930140 743819 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-244-237.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the fuck is this happening. < 1375930161 262238 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I like now is that you have to shred them < 1375930167 775764 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because otherwise what if someone finds your printed #esoteric logs < 1375930170 815466 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the hell do you explain that?? < 1375930192 847763 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375930202 346076 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-244-237.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll put them in a binder and donate them to the local library < 1375930473 27467 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375930482 418024 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-244-237.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375930560 635705 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375930603 55558 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: getting rid of those parenthesis is basically the difference between an alist and a plist < 1375930606 255711 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://24.media.tumblr.com/26c6ef77e28f105a837df9a3af56d7af/tumblr_mr6ysuGwKn1r7tprao1_1280.jpg < 1375930615 595490 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm seriously, i can't even comprehend what just happened to me < 1375930645 175212 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you printed out a log? < 1375930668 200905 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1375930672 608013 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's actually irssi < 1375930673 216108 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1375930675 176432 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like < 1375930675 736858 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1375930678 685978 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :an actual terminal screencap < 1375930693 146943 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :from like, weeks ago though < 1375930694 255611 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: please frame this < 1375930698 625780 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1375930710 534337 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :a friend once attempted to print something < 1375930715 586725 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the printer decided to turn off postscript < 1375930720 895857 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just printed the raw source as a text file < 1375930757 886414 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: did you maybe press a weird key at 17:42 weeks ago < 1375930793 846082 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other logs end at different times < 1375930820 256059 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but uh is there some way i can destroy my print history easily to make it stop < 1375931059 348687 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375931252 195968 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shhh don't let CADD know we're here < 1375931342 206284 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1375931413 55168 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is some horror movie shit < 1375931438 27739 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait until it starts printing logs from the future talking about vaguely specified catastrophe < 1375931563 22417 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is horror movie stuff < 1375931568 196774 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :< elliott> wait < elliott> what happened to shachaf < FreeFull> idris........... < elliott> FUCK[log cuts off] < 1375931588 436345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<itidus21> I AM BECOME DEATH, THE DESTROYER OF WORLDS < 1375931610 637215 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the conventional translation is time rather than death < 1375931623 258525 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not the famous one < 1375931625 407286 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the end of the channel is elliott, alone < 1375931629 126944 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :trapped in his matrix of solidity < 1375931631 218068 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with real dimensions < 1375931675 471097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Bubblewrap matrix < 1375931729 587002 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was pi dimesions < 1375931812 186970 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pi is real. pi is all around us. < 1375931993 317369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: help < 1375932017 576750 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry shachaf i future logged it < 1375932021 64742 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the future you're already dead < 1375932043 997304 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. sure this channel has a no future logging policy < 1375932063 328234 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it did that would have to be indicated in the topic < 1375932065 97369 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode rules < 1375932102 799085 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it sure does < 1375932117 909924 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375932142 737668 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: interesting about pi, it was almost legislated to be a finite fraction at one point.. imagine what would have happened to math if it passed? < 1375932171 37786 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing, because everyone would ignore a dumbassed state law in the same way botanists don't give a fuck what the SCOTUS said tomatos were < 1375932199 268138 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cant find the reference, but it was something like 237/74 < 1375932247 998846 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 237/74 :: Float < 1375932248 971144 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.2027028 < 1375932270 228372 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im pretty sure its not exacty that fraction. but it was something close < 1375932274 707434 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly* < 1375932286 667630 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure that pi is exactly that fraction < 1375932298 87769 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1375932308 41466 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i was just reading the wiki article on pi < 1375932317 987769 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me that i don't actually have an intuitive idea of why pi is irrational < 1375932320 906052 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks imo < 1375932323 647990 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :newton came up with an infinite sum of fractions that approaches pi < 1375932340 48224 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im pretty sure the wiki article could shed some light on that < 1375932383 151675 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :irrationals are crazy < 1375932388 797869 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ikr? < 1375932398 469319 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :transcentenals even more so < 1375932400 368616 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew, pun < 1375932404 457523 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1375932404 740424 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you were serious < 1375932405 849049 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1375932414 387652 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt even see that as a pun < 1375932414 588189 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh heh < 1375932417 906412 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice catch Bike < 1375932477 180243 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :between every two numbers there's an infinity of transcendentals that are uncalculatable < 1375932493 127712 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1375932499 607442 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :surreal numbers are amazing < 1375932500 987882 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you could do any infinite series or solve anything < 1375932503 527612 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Between any two reals there is an infinite number of rationals. < 1375932534 60436 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: yes but that's a countable infinite < 1375932539 298588 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you include infinitesimals < 1375932572 368560 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the infinitesimals are infinitely small compared to the reals < 1375932589 538209 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1375932591 558210 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nevermind < 1375932641 958019 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most numbers you will never ever be able to reach < 1375932688 100477 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you think of an uncomputable number that isn't the limit of a sequence of computable numbers? < 1375932720 867714 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes w < 1375932742 548011 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and w^2 < 1375932771 228346 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BB(1000)? < 1375932804 78167 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: has to exist < 1375932820 960732 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sequences of computable numbers are countable < 1375932857 461703 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiora: wouldn't any busy beaver be just as uncomputable any other? < 1375932859 358361 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so numbers that you can reach by sequence are only an infinitely small part of the reals < 1375932868 178032 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: BB(4) is computed, though, I think? < 1375932897 138297 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, the halting problem only says "some programs can't be proven to halt", not "all programs can't be proven to halt" < 1375932903 930938 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can Bike think of a number that even he could not compute? < 1375932912 657734 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant an example. < 1375932915 420450 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiora: got it < 1375932925 411780 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and like, the small busy beaver ones are pretty easy or something < 1375932941 338872 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty easy to construct a computable sequence that has a busy beaver number as its limit. < 1375932958 323532 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they're all, like. natural numbers. < 1375933002 629949 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what if BB(1000) is uncomputable? < 1375933012 328169 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, if you don't know what it is, howcould you converge to it? < 1375933032 728796 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dovetail running every relevant Turing machine < 1375933035 3467 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: smallest number that is part of a nonterminating collatz sequence < 1375933056 400449 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What makes you think that? < 1375933078 368830 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like.... dovetailing turing machines can only find you a lower bound, right? < 1375933095 259035 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A sequence of lower bounds. < 1375933126 290278 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375933139 78363 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense... I guess... < 1375933151 77413 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :untill you have proved that every one of those machines that hasn't halted, will not halt it isn't computed < 1375933164 849121 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked for a sequence. < 1375933172 650978 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1375933179 278335 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you asked for a number < 1375933196 962119 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked for a number not the limit of a sequence. < 1375933198 178431 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a number that can't be reached through sequence < 1375933200 639063 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: but taking you the limit gets you a perfect lower bound < 1375933205 788382 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the lower bounds are constantly improving < 1375933216 335288 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's vague but. anyway. < 1375933225 48361 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet Bike would explain it better. < 1375933232 742672 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 NICK :CADD|away < 1375933238 599954 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure I can think of any < 1375933242 9850 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty hard < 1375933310 712084 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :busy beaver is pretty much the prototype of uncomputable < 1375933311 422299 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinite sums are out ofc, same for solutions to anything (since you can infinite-newton-raphson it) < 1375933320 688916 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specker_sequence Another nonexample. < 1375933350 592372 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though maybe a solution to something discontinuous and nonconverging) < 1375933410 741633 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :transcendental numbers? < 1375933418 430140 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wow, that's an evil sequence < 1375933422 938951 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is. < 1375933457 688919 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also means the computable reals aren't compact, so, that kinda blows. < 1375933527 770086 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: woa this is remarkably hard < 1375933546 48988 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it? < 1375933563 301891 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about another question: An uncomputable function that is continuous. < 1375933586 179145 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1375933595 679395 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: trivial. < 1375933602 190939 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Yeah? < 1375933605 78877 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :busy beaver with linear interpolation < 1375933606 279435 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: take the busy beaver function, connect the dots < 1375933611 40499 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe just the fourier transform of an uncomputable series < 1375933646 384643 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, the best proof I've been taught in a class was < 1375933655 170464 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Proof. Draw the graph on sufficiently fine grid paper." < 1375933689 969604 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :any 3 points make a straight line give a wide enough pen < 1375933697 492251 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about differentiable? < 1375933711 154 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the integral of the previous answer < 1375933723 849503 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring. < 1375933774 319186 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: this was a serious proof < 1375933782 346080 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll let you puzzle over what theorem < 1375933855 411169 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: yes, I can imagine things that would be proven by that < 1375935657 39962 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We write α ∶ F ≅ G, if α is a natural isomorphism. As an example, the identity is a natural isomorphism of type F ≅ F." < 1375935667 271139 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this the worst example < 1375935692 962606 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. < 1375936679 972441 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arxiv.org/abs/1303.0371 So like, searching in constant time. < 1375936681 983480 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the fuck? < 1375936847 786290 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the classical algorithm? < 1375936855 182411 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, quantum one. < 1375936883 87621 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that i understand what "nonlinear quantum model" means here in a nontrivial way, but < 1375936891 692429 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: and it's not the constant time, it's rather like O(n^(1/4)). < 1375936931 76374 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read that but wikipedia summarized it as "constant" so i dunno < 1375936962 298057 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a long known fact that the quantum computer can do unstructured searching in sublinear time (Grover's algorithm, O(n^(1/2))) so it is not that crazy one < 1375936976 506053 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I'm not aware of details < 1375936992 718189 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well grover's is also crazy. < 1375937007 407092 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :every quantum algorithm is crazy ;) < 1375937012 677132 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they figured how to make some part of it constant < 1375937042 125429 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but some other part has grown in requirements so the overall growth is O(n^(1/4)) < 1375937042 942096 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems that Grover's algorithm is the optimal one of that kind though < 1375937052 873003 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I can read from what they're saying < 1375937085 832695 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the optimality of the number of unitary operators U_\omega?) < 1375937101 523850 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the number of applications of unitary operator* < 1375937116 940468 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375937150 136394 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: yeah grover's is the fastest "linear" < 1375937162 266874 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :again i have no real idea what this means < 1375937948 701515 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375938583 488579 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: do you find that you check super mega less now that it has a regular update schedule < 1375938623 914588 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually probably check it the same amount < 1375938634 844024 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it updates out of schedule! what then < 1375938641 515332 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to be on top of things like this < 1375938726 844311 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375938736 38370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: JohnnySmash wouldn't do that would he < 1375938753 752725 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what if he did........... < 1375938791 708035 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if someone held johnnysmash at gunpoint to make comics on wednesdays too without telling anyone about it < 1375938809 949842 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-250-231.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1375938811 826416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hang on that could actually happen < 1375938817 626298 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i better check on wednesdays too < 1375938821 435399 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on weekends < 1375938823 60229 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375938833 204299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even mondays < 1375938842 301835 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume johnnysmash is an intelligence agent, and Super Mega is coded messages. < 1375939133 158969 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje < 1375939156 839650 :CADD|away!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375939330 824044 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"<Bike> Can you think of an uncomputable number that isn't the limit of a sequence of computable numbers?" even the rationals (which are computable) are dense among reals, so there are no such numbers < 1375939410 1667 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"<Fiora> BB(1000)?" BB(1000) is a computable number, as it is an integer. this particular representation of it might be impossible to evaluate, but that is irrelevant. < 1375939456 375199 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :take all my fun why doncha < 1375939470 281035 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol : "dense" ? < 1375939508 546141 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dense_set doot < 1375939555 100584 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so just pack BB(n) in order into a real < 1375939557 606459 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since any real has a rational of any distance you want by it. < 1375939598 831550 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1375939608 147465 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So for any real we can construct a sequence etc etc converges to etc etc etc and so on etc < 1375939629 382705 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that... yeah if you can get an approximation < 1375939649 827230 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :computables are also dense, so, bla bla analogy etc left as an exercise etc bla blatc < 1375939650 735587 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's a contradiction < 1375939655 820043 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1375939672 510645 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1375939679 386751 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I might be wrong < 1375939703 201722 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have this intuition that sequences approaching a given limit are countable < 1375939717 853806 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1375939722 15393 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That the set of all sequences approaching a given limit is countable < 1375939723 127110 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*? < 1375939746 160369 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1375939762 625268 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1375939779 842752 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the set of all countable sequences approaching a given limit < 1375939784 285693 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1375939789 677028 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that's not the case. Take any sequence approaching the limit that isn't bla bla, multiply it elementwise by some real, you get another sequence < 1375939791 248221 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the set of all computable sequences approaching a given limit sorry < 1375939851 971707 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody said the sequence had to be computable itself, though. < 1375939866 979082 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly i did intend that, but yeah. < 1375939977 148070 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :by definition, they usually are < 1375939984 427834 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay i was scrolled up < 1375939992 472680 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, duh < 1375940033 364234 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because rationals are dense over reals, that meach every real must be reachable by successive iteration < 1375940082 415693 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for numbers involving non-computable parts, this means this successive iteration can be defined by a computer program < 1375940102 20566 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :computer programs are countable < 1375940139 378749 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computable numbers are countable, yes, but (countably) infinite sequences of members of a countable set are well, not. < 1375940174 425113 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1375940196 459453 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my proof: real numbers are iso to digit sequences, then think a lil < 1375940204 728895 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you say that the specker sequence is a nonexample? < 1375940220 440538 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1375940229 165405 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's a sequence of computable numbers with an uncomputable limit? < 1375940262 155800 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may have changed your question < 1375940279 12707 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't a very good question. < 1375940342 294180 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there numbers that can't be computably successively approximated? < 1375940387 3672 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well like oklopol said there's always a sequence of rationals or computables or whatever the hell. < 1375940414 347309 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I see < 1375940414 969507 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are like, functions that aren't semicomputable, though? probably < 1375940418 225075 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a single program needs to output the sequence though, this is more interesting < 1375940430 110610 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1375940435 435089 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I reread the specker sequence thing < 1375940479 850379 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially some digits of the maximum of the sequence are uncomputable < 1375940504 779739 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the maximum of the sequence can't be successively approximated < 1375940509 368556 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :clever < 1375940954 814809 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do specker with a subset X of naturals, and you have a program that outputs a sequence of rationals that converges to it, then X is necessarily recursively enumerable, presumably by the proof in the specker article < 1375940997 486205 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you do specker with a set that is not recursively enumerable, then that number cannot be approximated by a computable sequence of rationals, in a somewhat interesting sense < 1375941120 136893 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you sorta can't force it to converge < 1375941138 761446 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1375941162 202430 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not sure i get your intuition there < 1375941194 564768 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if you have a rule that you must always converge to at least distance N of the real number < 1375941206 586072 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with N being divided by 2 on each step < 1375941221 797838 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then a given step might loop infinitely of course < 1375941264 65149 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :here, the property of a real a we are interested in is "is there a turing machine that, given n, outputs a rational r_n, such that r_1, r_2, ... converges to a" < 1375941313 830192 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1375941366 633813 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1375941417 677982 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay actually perhaps "is there a turing machine that, given n, outputs a rational r_n, such that r_1, r_2, ... converges to a, and |r_i - a| is decreasing" < 1375941437 999301 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because otherwise i don't know if X needs to be r.e. < 1375941469 151129 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of having the difference exponentially decreasing < 1375941510 339354 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well isn't the number computable then < 1375941523 7139 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm yes < 1375941562 693819 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think mine is a weaker notion < 1375941630 653297 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a lot of literature on this stuff, but i haven't read any of it < 1375941704 944998 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually on second thought i'm not sure even my latter definition works < 1375941727 146030 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that a third thought < 1375941828 294163 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on nth thought, for some unknown n < 1375942026 539739 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah okay i think r_i itself needs to be increasing: then you can tell n \in X when the nth digit flips to a 4, so X is r.e. < 1375942119 170100 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: the definition I know is just forall m n, |r_m - r_n| <= m + n < 1375942124 490413 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or am I talking nonsense < 1375942141 133292 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure about the m+n? < 1375942148 752313 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know less and less about the numbers? < 1375942164 39578 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375942166 131711 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I looked it up in the paper I remember reading so as to look slightly less stupid. < 1375942183 727186 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok elliott, i'm here for you, to look stupidest. < 1375942189 651912 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok wait that wasn't the exact paper < 1375942191 692863 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i'm not trying to define computable numbers, i'm trying to define a larger class < 1375942195 769775 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1375942205 205583 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, now I know I'm talking nonsense < 1375942223 456005 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The important question is, are these numbers Lyapunov stable < 1375942242 632413 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if in yours, you replace m+n by 1/(m+n), then that's computable numbers, since the nth approximation is at most 2/n away from the real < 1375942272 426134 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or i guess even 1/n away < 1375942295 488649 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, I will represent the real numbers (see Definition 9.16 and < 1375942295 760110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definition 11.1) by the type < 1375942296 112772 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :∃f: Q+ ⇒ Q.∀ε1 ε2.|f(ε1) − f(ε2)| ≤ ε1 + ε2. < 1375942323 250895 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's possible that roconnor made the exact same mistake in the definition in both his Ph.D. thesis and this other paper < 1375942335 552247 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rookie mistake < 1375942353 168504 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :are those epsilons natural numbers though? < 1375942354 847788 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait should i even ask how that's a type < 1375942356 511210 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: did someone castle agaain < 1375942361 588375 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it copied kind of badly < 1375942364 433167 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375942366 198225 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: oh, I guess they're Q+ there. < 1375942369 114555 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a castle < 1375942370 244433 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, sure. < 1375942375 926743 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking at the type, that seems to work < 1375942390 930354 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea is that given epsilon, f computes an epsilon approximation < 1375942398 617527 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :for positive rational epsilon < 1375942402 278427 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's (f : Q+ -> Q, prf : forall e1 e2, abs (f e1 - f e2) <= e1 + e2) < 1375942414 569216 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that ∃ is meant to be an \exists < 1375942424 159403 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1375942425 98896 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is. < 1375942429 565006 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows just sucks. < 1375942515 357777 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see them just fine < 1375942639 374683 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see... < 1375942646 626293 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's like... < 1375942716 771273 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i see the paper? < 1375942728 194749 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :- any real can be reached by the limit of an infinite series or rationals, since rationals are dense over reals < 1375942730 806187 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i'm also wondering how that's a type < 1375942763 445677 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :- however that series can't converger exponentially or else the number would be computable (and thus, countable) < 1375942800 185601 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's a type in that it defines a set of stuff but < 1375942831 113234 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: http://r6.ca/thesis.rev.fluorine.pdf < 1375942832 403855 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't really define anything though, it's just a true statement about functions :P < 1375942837 339473 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I mean it's pretty standard? < 1375942840 709570 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there might be something implicit going on < 1375942843 658999 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a dependent tuple with a function and a proof object < 1375942847 800124 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :- which means that 'most' reals must be approached by a series that you can't determine if it converges or not < 1375942855 808133 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the proof object is a dependent function from two Q+s to a proof obejct that blah blah blah. < 1375942876 409294 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or at least doesn't converge exponentially) < 1375942908 585529 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: the second one is slightly wrong, the series can converge as fast as you like... it's the enumerability by a turing machine that's important < 1375942939 62091 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, true < 1375942965 608844 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it can't... converge exponentially in an enumerable way < 1375943001 56214 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375943017 234174 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, or otherwise the number is computable (and thus, belongs to the countable set of computable numbers) < 1375943064 650121 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so either it must converge exponentially in a non computable/enumerable way < 1375943078 843392 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375943120 408383 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if you force your successive steps to be computable/enumerable, then it can't converge exponentially anymore? < 1375943130 159951 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375943131 81420 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah okay if you have an existentially quantified formula, then it's the type of values the existential quantifier can take < 1375943200 259469 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375943222 320331 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: something like that i guess. < 1375943308 962248 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sooo... why arent there more people talking about egison?: http://egison.pira.jp/ < 1375943315 661022 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well uh, you have to bundle the proof object. < 1375943337 169128 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a value of the type would look like (f, \e1 e2 -> ...proof of the <=...) < 1375943343 464184 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but i consider that part of the logic we're working in < 1375943344 307831 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :given appropriate constructors for <= or whatever on Q. < 1375943350 679150 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, sure < 1375943350 922247 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1375943370 790328 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it isn't really like that in type theory, which is the point of the thesis. < 1375943377 699594 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1375943381 889522 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, proofs of (m <= n) aren't necessarily unique depending on how you define <=. < 1375943387 319297 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the proof term can be relevant. < 1375943408 693184 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Algorithms are expressed intuitively and will be auto-parallelized with Egison!! < 1375943525 996005 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklotalk-- did pattern matching of objects without normals forms too < 1375943544 908103 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Egison is the world's first programming language that makes pattern-matching with unfree data types practical. < 1375943560 392015 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay perhaps that's different < 1375943563 499642 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, we can conclude that oklotalk-- wasn't real and youjust hallucinated < 1375943579 333837 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember oklotalk-- < 1375943583 650322 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what's "practical" < 1375943585 492555 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you don't < 1375943600 965062 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: remind me how oklotalk-- was great. I remember it being great < 1375943602 624135 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma oklotalk < 1375943602 866537 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklotalk has a karma of -4 < 1375943615 734823 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it was great for example because it mixed static and dynamic scoping < 1375943628 421228 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow great. < 1375943635 179894 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :every variable was first checked in the static scope, then the dynamic scope < 1375943641 391176 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how great is that? very. < 1375943682 56362 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also pattern matching was pretty advanced < 1375943686 850105 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno if there was anything else :P < 1375943710 727631 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta go see a doctor now. < 1375943718 135436 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: don't die :( < 1375943739 212197 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :advanced and practical < 1375943747 564953 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll try my best < 1375944309 991912 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1375944920 823561 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375947298 1194 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375947435 529971 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375947484 425010 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1375948416 7209 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaaaaaaaaaaah < 1375948423 37907 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can watch Airplane WHENEVER I WANT TO < 1375948637 71914 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1375948657 749529 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I can't < 1375949466 814443 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375949765 836152 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1375949766 125418 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other news, my copy of To Be Or Not To Be: That Is The Adventure has shipped! < 1375949788 846850 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375951852 474001 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-134-171.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375952678 988170 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PART :#esoteric < 1375952820 28113 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375953483 425978 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1375954007 424637 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-51.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375954450 323772 :Guest18414!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wmpgzonmugbgjqkq QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375954468 662037 :Guest18414!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nirqeeyjbjsyczlq JOIN :#esoteric < 1375954552 504709 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-51.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375955270 126782 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375956300 259280 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375956375 709599 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375956470 307135 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375957096 657795 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1375960932 419368 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's the best I've ever done at Brogue < 1375961047 528530 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay you're playing brogue < 1375961053 66444 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you playing the latest version? it is kind of bad < 1375961056 373335 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mightw ant to try the previous one < 1375961135 719357 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I am playing the latest version < 1375961137 145096 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a different version to that which I was previously playing < 1375961151 747236 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1375961163 754217 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a kind of terrible food clock with some serious issues (food basically only ever spawns on certain fixed levels due to some bad design and food is really tight so it's easy to starve because of this) < 1375961168 676041 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do starve maybe roll back a version :p < 1375961175 832178 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't been starving < 1375961188 319285 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So maybe I am not on that version < 1375961382 86448 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, I am on the latest version < 1375961397 184539 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I just suck so much that it hasn't became an issue < 1375961406 32041 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you die to? < 1375961408 756037 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Centaur < 1375961411 349731 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Level 19 < 1375961416 464822 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh centaurs < 1375961419 756399 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :were you a melee dude < 1375961423 448421 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1375961425 809247 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay well < 1375961428 95608 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is my centaur tip < 1375961435 789235 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :walk through a door and wait for it to come for you < 1375961444 270161 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is like the only way to kill centaurs as a melee character without wanting to kill yourself < 1375961456 198123 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of silly that you have to use bad AI in this way but it's so intolerable doing anything else < 1375961460 926792 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a +11 rapier of multiplicity and it was awesome < 1375961466 145862 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow +11 < 1375961470 186484 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you just sink every enchant into it < 1375961477 46077 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. much < 1375961484 605961 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I found it it was +4 < 1375961514 86804 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would hit something and I'd have an army of floaty blades < 1375962016 925274 :nooodl!~nooodl@78.20.118.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375962062 18440 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enchantments go to 11? < 1375962353 635107 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the very least! < 1375962400 574606 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds almost as unbalanced as nethack < 1375962452 657389 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375962460 874363 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scrolls of enchantments aren't that easy to come across < 1375962473 239030 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enchantments go to +127, presumably. < 1375962522 903089 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not 2147483647? < 1375962557 748547 :nooodl!~nooodl@78.20.118.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in nethack it's +127 < 1375962591 186965 :nooodl!~nooodl@78.20.118.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however this also applies to your to-hit bonus, which is also a signed char, or something, and it'll overflow and you'll have -118 to-hit < 1375962607 590306 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :brogue is roughly infinitely more balanced than nethack < 1375962616 451087 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But think of all the sexy foocubi you'll get by showing off your +127 whatever. < 1375962627 46811 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? foocubi < 1375962629 216762 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :foocubi? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1375962629 478904 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              | < 1375962629 756368 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            º¯`\o < 1375962635 413684 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style nethack < 1375962635 671896 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: nethack (NetHack 3.4.3 data.base, rumors.tru, rumors.fal) < 1375962639 464160 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Tell me about foocubi. < 1375962639 726256 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: tiger: 1. a check of my attire showed no obvious holes or damage. i once saw a hacker named beaver. weak and ailing, they have eight legs and filling his lungs with air. < 1375962640 72240 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You cannot enchant meat sticks < 1375962642 466587 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a +127 whatever, if you know what I etc. etc. etc. < 1375962655 870260 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: That doesn't sound terribly sexy. < 1375962655 870363 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: pyrolisk: at first. he appreciated the priceless wine that much that he is not surprisingly, are large, elephantlike mammal of the damned to hell. < 1375962661 777644 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should try nethack sometime < 1375962668 426936 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dodges the dirty looks < 1375962685 719530 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything I should know? < 1375962693 313837 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before I download it and start? < 1375962708 913847 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Play it on one of the servers instead, they're fancy. < 1375962710 100047 :nooodl!~nooodl@78.20.118.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"play brogue instead" < 1375962713 401979 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And die horribly from a goblin with a wand of death or some other stuff? < 1375962727 411294 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nethack... servers? < 1375962727 936924 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Play a game that has been developed in the last decade < 1375962735 181006 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get your embarrassing deaths typically announced on an IRC channel. < 1375962760 946403 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't nethack have like 1000 ways to die or something < 1375962771 175942 :nooodl!~nooodl@78.20.118.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: `telnet nethack.alt.org` < 1375962790 514221 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: NAO's "top types of death" list has 16697 unique entries. < 1375962797 647869 :nooodl!~nooodl@78.20.118.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: killed by a goblin called A, killed by a goblin called B, killed by a goblin called... < 1375962847 162828 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1375962855 615673 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Granted, it's probably kind of a Zipfian distribution. But even the rank-1000 entry ("killed by a fire ant, while frozen by a monster's gaze") has happened 55 times, so it's not quite unique. < 1375962869 129332 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll stick with Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Red Rescue Team < 1375962873 213908 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://alt.org/nethack/player-endings.php?player=DeathRobin < 1375962877 196742 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Entries 6048..16697 all have a count of 1, though. < 1375962901 750203 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, there have been 101 trickeries. < 1375962928 513710 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"killed by a gnome lord called 104" thanks, saiph. < 1375962934 25771 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Well, the goal here is to actually play nethack, so playing something else instead doesn't quite fit the bill =P < 1375962943 961063 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Alright, I'll telnet there. < 1375962948 527979 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll telnet SO HARD < 1375962959 775934 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's quite a few entries where people have been frustrated. < 1375962963 165202 :nooodl!~nooodl@78.20.118.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: if you really wanna play nethack maybe play acehack instead < 1375962966 38217 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. "killed by a pony called KILL ME I FAIL AT ILLITERACY". < 1375962967 121126 :nooodl!~nooodl@78.20.118.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is like < 1375962973 167291 :nooodl!~nooodl@78.20.118.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack without the terrible terrible ui < 1375962978 747925 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That might be nice < 1375962984 321842 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Was killed by an Oddish using Tackle while paralyzed" < 1375962989 655489 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to play DF without a graphics pack < 1375962991 689792 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or "killed by a rock troll called OH FUCK YOU TROLL SERIOUSLY". < 1375962994 718672 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't really work out < 1375962999 566901 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, I've never played DF with a graphics pack < 1375963008 453712 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375963012 247491 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Then you are a greater person than I am < 1375963013 910235 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION bows < 1375963023 538537 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, I'm just lazy and stubborn < 1375963034 684524 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the Lazy Newb Pack for that =P < 1375963035 96690 :nooodl!~nooodl@78.20.118.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants to make an ascii pokemon roguelike based on actual pokedex data < 1375963063 859858 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, with the whole Alakazam has an IQ of over 3000 crap? < 1375963067 318496 :nooodl!~nooodl@78.20.118.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be rad. it'd be like mystery dungeon except not rguhhghggg and with more stuff i guess < 1375963075 313239 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, well it's too late now, I'm not a newb < 1375963076 69779 :nooodl!~nooodl@78.20.118.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, i just mean, accurate movesets etc. < 1375963083 352313 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1375963093 85260 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/eGWP NetHack players have dirty mouths. < 1375963095 895059 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, basing it on one of the main series games? < 1375963119 773706 :nooodl!~nooodl@78.20.118.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 9877 1 0.000 killed by a djinni called Where's my fucking wish? < 1375963123 539110 :nooodl!~nooodl@78.20.118.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess who :') < 1375963139 570584 :nooodl!~nooodl@78.20.118.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yeah < 1375963166 659497 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"housecat called Kitty with a huge gaping jaw the size of a fucking hallway" has killed two people, I see. < 1375963173 159991 :nooodl!~nooodl@78.20.118.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: well acehack still has the text graphics < 1375963183 982437 :nooodl!~nooodl@78.20.118.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not as 100% insane as dwarf fortress's though < 1375963198 22822 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.rarecandytreatment.com/comics/1019152/brink-of-mentality/ < 1375963208 836023 :nooodl!~nooodl@78.20.118.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: must be someone's petname < 1375963241 121011 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm watching a game right now < 1375963254 977577 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm having trouble following =P < 1375963341 82263 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/gSiR "it keeps happening" < 1375963435 975706 :nooodl!~nooodl@78.20.118.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: poetic < 1375963607 393048 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do not call watch captains shitty minetown bones. < 1375963865 364375 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375963945 153382 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1375964530 299665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1375964748 544250 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :graphical DF is impossible to play I think < 1375964900 755888 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean the one where an opengl program pretends to be a terminal emulator < 1375964908 627082 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was weird yes < 1375964955 363343 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the one where you have to keep track of >100 tiny little smudgy pictures instead of simple geometric shapes you already know < 1375965693 14757 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: whoa, tilaa have SSDs now. < 1375965755 918573 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A lot of our competitors who offer SSD VPS actually only do SSD caching. That means that on the backend your data is still stored on "spinning rust" and the SSD's are used to offload the HDD's somewhat." I love the "spinning rust" expression, it's so disparaging. < 1375965828 139449 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do I want 1 gigabyte of RAM and 20 GB of SSD or do I want 2 gigabytes of RAM and 30 GB of spinning rust? < 1375965832 741613 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the latter also has like twice the CPU. < 1375965845 242625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :these prices were so much better when I thought 20 dollars was 20 pounds instead. < 1375965847 422401 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Bike <Bike> Can you think of an uncomputable number that isn't the limit of a sequence of computable numbers? <-- not if the sequence itself can be uncomputable. after all every real number is a limit of a sequence of rationals. < 1375965847 671114 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1375965861 37041 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: we went over thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis < 1375965865 202424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1375965901 80954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, in fact you can even define explicitly a unique sequence... < 1375965926 89436 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively do I want 32 gigabytes of RAM, 19.2 GHz (???) of CPU, and 1280 gigabytes of hard disk (241.40 EUR/mo), or the same but with 240 gigabytes of SSD (243.80 EUR/mo)? < 1375965936 297688 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just take your favorite ... oh wait, just take the continued fraction cutoffs. < 1375965955 588609 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, that's pretty incredibly cheap. < 1375965980 284465 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 gigabytes of RAM and eight cores and a terabyte of disk for two hundred pounds a month? < 1375965991 883014 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :would anyone like to give me some money. < 1375966030 277025 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can give my two cents < 1375966031 799722 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, the SSD slider doesn't go above 240 gigs. < 1375966061 864948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: here's a nickel, boy. buy yourself a better computer. < 1375966087 104004 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes. that was my one disappointment from accidentally hitting "end" on the storage meter and then seeing what would happen if I did it to all the other sliders too. < 1375966099 142821 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The funny thing is that you can actually get a computer for a nickel these days < 1375966101 711346 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the 19.2 GHz is like 8*2.4 GHz. < 1375966111 171455 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1375966114 925836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: something embedded stuff? < 1375966115 316492 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Well, you can get anything for a nickel, really < 1375966124 274427 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just depends on the nickle < 1375966166 473828 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you ask for 32 gigs of RAM, the CPU slider also doesn't go below 9.6 GHz. < 1375966200 346012 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lot of hertz o0 < 1375966221 170993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably that's sum of cores? < 1375966226 552920 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Sadly. < 1375966243 174597 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you imagine? < 1375966257 824031 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I have a... 13.6 GHz computer, according to their math. < 1375966260 992005 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :A single-core processor SO FAST that it makes parallel computing irrelevant < 1375966282 726277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: that's what people imagined until about 2003 hth < 1375966289 332168 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2587625 < 1375966316 914522 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :8.7 GHz on an AMD FX-8350 < 1375966334 123692 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is memory faster than 133 MHz yet < 1375966338 596291 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :283.69 is quite precise < 1375966361 62329 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375966387 424954 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: My guess is that the last time he went to 283.70, the universe SEGFAULTed or something < 1375966394 898540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1375966404 531341 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So we're actually a restored-from-backup copy < 1375966416 485899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1/283.69 < 1375966419 383688 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.5249744439352815e-3 < 1375966428 850759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that doesn't help < 1375966447 755607 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://totl.net/Eunuch/ < 1375966452 857112 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obligatory) < 1375966460 708540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wondered if that was simply the result of two other numbers divided with unreasonable precision or something < 1375966488 358491 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: PS4 has (will have) eight gigs of GDDR5 (clock speed 1.375 GHz, data rate of 5.5Gbps) as its unified CPU/GPU RAM. < 1375966500 734185 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> approxRational 0.01 (1/283.69) < 1375966501 911964 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 % 74 < 1375966576 951967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1/74 - 1/283.69 -- i don't think that's a very good use of approxRational < 1375966578 117735 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9.988539069578233e-3 < 1375966607 355431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> approxRational 0.000001 (1/283.69) < 1375966608 478507 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 % 1 < 1375966616 216448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1375966618 46215 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1375966623 378938 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> flip approxRational 0.01 (1/283.69) < 1375966624 589124 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 % 1 < 1375966643 798883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t approxRational < 1375966645 943825 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :RealFrac a => a -> a -> Rational < 1375966648 26204 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> flip approxRational 0.000001 (1/283.69) < 1375966649 246742 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3 % 851 < 1375966683 303505 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about, you know, just changing the arguments instead of flipping the function? < 1375966684 736034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> flip approxRational 0.00001 (1/283.69) < 1375966685 965660 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 % 283 < 1375966686 440007 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm, why don't computers do RAM like that? < 1375966695 664158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: now that's crazy talk < 1375966704 197901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> flip approxRational 0.0000001 (1/283.69) < 1375966705 465866 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 13 % 3688 < 1375966716 226715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i guess not. < 1375966743 104950 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Because it costs money, I suppose. (If you mean "why not use GDDR5 also for system RAM instead of GPU only", and not "why not unified memory architectures".) < 1375966762 555879 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think I mean both, though I can think of reasons for the latter quicker. < 1375966775 166587 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely there are lots of people willing to pay money for computers. < 1375966779 685179 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should just put the processor in the cloud, really < 1375966786 591305 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Outsource your motherboard < 1375966811 939270 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375966814 892937 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375966830 398554 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think you need something different in the memory controller for that, and Intel et al. might not be willing to cater for the presumably-not-too-large market willing to pay for GDDR5 RAM. (Or I could be talking out of my ass; I don't know about hardware.) < 1375966835 247500 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I guess the cloud would be too mainstream < 1375966837 249112 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: they call that OnLive. < 1375966852 259980 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I store all my files in the water table < 1375966853 779230 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: isn't that market, like, all gamery and overclocky type weirdos. < 1375966859 376362 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :those people have lots of money. < 1375966862 170076 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: GDDR5 has worse latency < 1375966866 333451 :ais523!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375966870 400805 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you Deewiant, that sounds like a much more realistic reason. < 1375966871 779502 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like the clound, only more underground < 1375966878 277957 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :cloud* < 1375966879 634415 :ais523!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops, wrong nick < 1375966882 78 :ais523!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 NICK :ais523_ < 1375966887 845449 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi #esoteric, btw < 1375966891 388420 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heya ais523_ < 1375966895 408148 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your Linode, solidity, has exceeded the notification threshold (1000) for disk io rate by averaging 1243.39 for the last 2 hours. The dashboard for this specific Linode is located at: <https://manager.linode.com/linodes/dashboard/solidity> < 1375966901 630309 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :linode email me every time I do an upgrade < 1375966921 109992 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome ais523_ < 1375966923 889754 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09ais523_: W10e10l05come to th05e11 i02n05ternational hub for02 eso14teri03c 05programmin14g langu14age design and dep04loyment! Fo04r m09ore info09rmat08io05n, c06heck out08 our w12iki04: h06ttp:11//esolangs.org11/wiki/Main_P14age. (For10 the othe02r kind of esoterica, try #esoteric13 on irc.dal.net.) < 1375966925 717857 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: I like your thesis. < 1375966925 969426 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And DDR4 is coming out anyway so if you want better/more expensive desktop RAM you'll get it < 1375966931 324150 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something else came up when I was writing my research, which is incredibly minor and probably not worth mentioning in the research < 1375966942 839864 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's arguably an esoprogramming problem, and I'm having trouble seeing the trick needed to get the answer < 1375966999 277535 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see... it's very easy to write a regular expression (I'm talking mathematical regular expression here, not regexp) to match strings of the form "ababababababab" and so on < 1375967010 981015 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and likewise, it's very easy to write one for "cdcdcdcdcdcdcd" and so on < 1375967019 914749 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm trying to write one that matches any interleaving of those strings < 1375967029 406951 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, if you look at just the a's and b's, the a's and b's alternate < 1375967036 829476 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you look at just the c's and d's, the c's and d's alternate < 1375967048 479603 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's no restriction on how the a's and c's can line up against each other, for instance < 1375967052 780802 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: long time no see! < 1375967060 399443 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so something like abacabdc is fine < 1375967088 96461 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory, it should be possible, because it's clearly quite easy to write an FSM to do that < 1375967094 925674 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and regular expressions and FSMs are equally powerful < 1375967096 763142 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just can't see how < 1375967112 123218 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatives, lots of alternatives < 1375967113 795645 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just write the FSM and convert it to a regex < 1375967201 372916 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... the FSM is {from, input, to} {0,a,1},{0,c,2},{2,a,3},{1,c,3},{3,b,1},{3,d,2},{1,b,0},{2,c,0} < 1375967218 338312 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not familiar with methods of regexifying those, though < 1375967246 689956 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cs.stackexchange.com/questions/2016/how-to-convert-finite-automata-to-regular-expressions < 1375967259 360112 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the link < 1375967292 803693 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm currently writing about models of hardware, and have concluded that delay-insensitive asynchronous circuits are regular expressions and synchronous circuits are recurrence relations) < 1375967321 8411 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds fun < 1375967353 663759 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember a FSM-to-regular-expression conversion routine from the "intro to theoretical computer science" course. < 1375967365 490288 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was all about merging edges and whatnot. < 1375967407 712442 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably the same as the "state removal method" mentioned in Deewiant's link. < 1375967449 374534 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks familiar so they're probably the same, yes. < 1375967530 304107 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so let's see... if I remove 3, we get {0,a,1},{0,c,2},{1,b,0},{2,c,0},{2,ab,2},{2,ad,1},{1,cb,2},{1,cd,1} < 1375967579 144414 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite, there are typos there, but I'll mentally correct them < 1375967580 399596 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: Are all your states final, or just the one that has both b and d last? < 1375967590 249322 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: they're all final < 1375967591 308583 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doing this by hand without drawing it is probably a good way of making mistakes and getting it a bit wrong < 1375967617 742444 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: In that case, I think you need to add epsilon edges from all to a dummy final state, since the algorithm only removes states that aren't final. < 1375967636 639897 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Disclaimer: it might still work out in practice, in your case.) < 1375967642 903048 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: right; it actually doesn't really matter for my application < 1375967656 952428 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially because I'm just curious as to what it looks like, more than anything else < 1375967724 825855 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then removing 2: {0,a,1},{1,b,0},{1,cd,1},{0,c(ab)*d,0},{0,c(ab)*ad,1},{1,cb(ab)*d,0},{1,cb(ab*)ad,1} < 1375967782 669808 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is {0,c(ab)*d,0},{0,a+c(ab)*ad,1},{1,b+cb(ab)*d,0},{1,cd+cb(ab*)ad,1} < 1375967823 69942 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: so why is the PS4 using higher-latency RAM then? < 1375967868 241948 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably they believe in caches < 1375967870 770411 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then finally, removing 0: (c(ab)*d+((a+c(ab)*ad)(cd+cb(ab)*ad)*(b+cb(ab)*d)))* < 1375967877 388123 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: From what I recall about the PS4 seminar, their developers were really hankering for a unified memory architecture. Plus they were focused a lot on doing non-graphics ("compute shaders") stuff on the GPU. < 1375967893 377090 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That regular expression is smaller than I thought < 1375967894 866544 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1375967897 217120 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: (Parallelized GPU work is of course more about throughput than latencies.) < 1375967903 774455 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not in lowest terms, though < 1375967906 552959 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I can simplify it < 1375967932 66496 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: that regular expression is basically what I was on the path to writing (very slowly) < 1375967941 658304 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then finally, removing 0: (c(ab)*d+((a+c(ab)*ad)(c(ba)*d)*(b+cb(ab)*d)))* < 1375967949 241859 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* (c(ab)*d+((a+c(ab)*ad)(c(ba)*d)*(b+cb(ab)*d)))* < 1375967953 313077 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it match < 1375967955 317710 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: I just started writing out all the permutations in the knowledge that since {a,b,c,d} is finite, eventually there'll be a synchronisation point where you can just * the whole thing < 1375967959 219254 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of thing < 1375967965 358994 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then you found a non-stupid way to do it before I could be bothered < 1375967972 998654 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: strings where a and b alternate (with potential c and d in between) and also c and d alternate (with potential a and b in between) < 1375967978 721424 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't the expression be symmetrical < 1375967987 485804 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's what I started doing but I ended up failing due to lack of a GOTO :( < 1375967993 176039 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: it is < 1375967997 779259 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1375968000 192021 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just in a nonobvious way < 1375968010 932523 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :eyeah you can just write an NFA for it < 1375968023 618795 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: that's what we just did in-channel < 1375968054 751039 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :conclusion: state machines are a better model for asynchronous digital circuits than regular expressions < 1375968137 441389 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this must be why electronic engineers like them so much < 1375968144 861255 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need less time to type regular expressions than to draw state machines though < 1375968158 938617 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think about this as the paper deadline nears < 1375968224 136703 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the third hand, you don't get to use a TeX package for drawing state machines. < 1375968245 590653 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: yeah, that's actually why I was using regular expressions so far < 1375968369 107739 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The simple regular expressions might also correspond to some interesting subset of circuits < 1375968387 95247 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does "simple" have a technical meaning here? < 1375968420 200257 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the reason why regular expressions are appropriate for this is that not only do these sorts of circuit (like most circuits) not produce certain outputs, they also refuse certain inputs < 1375968425 911374 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, those inputs can't be given to it < 1375968430 383668 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck simple < 1375968430 636748 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :simple definition: free from guile. < 1375968465 260159 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even in the sense of bottom/fail, either; it's in the sense of undefined behaviour < 1375968476 543569 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason, I find it reassuring seeing UB come up in formal mathematics < 1375968497 892967 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought asynchronous circuits accepted all (appropriately spaced) inputs < 1375968550 50064 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is delay-insensitive circuits, so the potential appropriate spacing could be infinite < 1375968555 667658 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can only determine it via observing their output < 1375968579 481401 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. for a simple circuit like XOR, AQ+BQ, once you give A you can't send A again or B until you get the Q < 1375968621 99601 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or for a circuit like C, ABQ+BAQ, once you've sent A, you have to send B next, you're never allowed to send A twice without a Q in between (and the Q won't be sent until it sees the B) < 1375968639 858118 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, something that confuses me a lot is that the person who invented the C element is apparently called Muller, no umlaut < 1375968706 761029 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pronounce it /mʌlər/ to be safe < 1375968781 780359 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mahler < 1375968836 798693 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know what decides what Debian packages are installed as part of a "base system"? < 1375968845 267621 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there doesn't seem to be a metapackage corresponding to something like ubuntu-desktop < 1375968852 418898 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the packages don't seem to all be marked as automatically installed < 1375968863 486943 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnome-desktop-task < 1375968875 462516 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm trying to get a list of all packages I explicitly installed; aptitude search '~i !~M !~E' does okay but includes a lot of stuff that comes with Debian) < 1375968879 590040 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: but it's a server :p < 1375968892 853065 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the actual base system. < 1375968925 298784 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I remember reading something in Debian policy about that < 1375968933 411427 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what does it say about me that I read Debian policy for fun?) < 1375968973 600034 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are well-informed about relevant items. < 1375968992 992738 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "all packages with priority `required' or `important'" < 1375969010 250350 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically anything with a lower priority, you installed yourself < 1375969041 249359 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's actually a simpler definition than I was expecting < 1375969157 330373 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw, the breakdown seems to be: "required" = enough functionality to boot the system and install more software; "important" = minimal amount needed to be able to reasonably administer the system without having to install extra packages to do so; "standard" = reasonable defaults for a small character-mode system; "optional" = pretty much everything goes here; "extra" = packages that conflict with more useful packages or are only us < 1375969170 928952 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a base system is required+important, a default install is required+important+standard < 1375969186 287431 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and required+important+standard+optional is intended to be theoretically possible but you'd have to be mad to actually do ti < 1375969187 463018 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it < 1375969213 509051 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: Cut off: '"extra" = packages that conflict with more useful packages or are only us' < 1375969223 972056 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...useful in specialized cases < 1375969232 784652 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Filtering based on priority might help in "list explicit installations". < 1375969234 168645 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like debug symbols, that sort of thing < 1375969251 520536 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure there would be people that test *+optional systems < 1375969259 811698 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I think there's at least one < 1375969261 20594 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!~prequired or some-such. < 1375969288 334742 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, "required" is pretty much "if this isn't installed, your system is doomed" < 1375969321 508058 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas "essential", a different measurement is "things that are installed so widely that you don't need to bother declaring dependencies on them" < 1375969328 650272 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*, a different measurement, < 1375969369 772965 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: There seems to be (possibly hardware-detect-related?) things in the default install that don't have those priorities, yet aren't marked with a high priority. < 1375969387 444013 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm < 1375969392 414372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: E.g. "acpi" has Priority: optional, is not marked as automatically installed, is installed, and I certainly haven't installed it myself. < 1375969404 749870 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: (And this was just a base system with no tasksel tasks, IIRC.) < 1375969407 909811 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it seems possible that the installer would add in drivers specific to your hardware config < 1375969421 13860 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :policy doesn't mention that, but OTOH I don't see a reason why it would < 1375969442 428035 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Similarly other such things like pciutils, pm-utils seem to be here. < 1375969495 852124 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Okay, pciutils is Priority: standard. But pciutils is optional.) < 1375969505 217036 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, pm-utils is optional. < 1375969568 278097 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, how have I ended up with a non-automatic installation of 'libfreeimage3'? < 1375969582 998960 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even have a single package that'd depend on it. < 1375969584 588130 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: huh, python and perl match even with !~prequired !~pimportant < 1375969589 791346 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do those raelly not come with debian? < 1375969600 458548 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*really < 1375969629 349296 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: there's -minimal versions that are shipped with debian < 1375969642 95389 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: Curiously enough, both python and python-minimal are Priority: standard. < 1375969642 341516 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, the full version of Perl is flagged build-essential, but not anything higher than that < 1375969658 690197 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which means that Perl doesn't have to be specified as a build dependency of anything, and thus needs to be installed to build packages) < 1375969662 892488 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how prequired includes awk, sed, perl, and two shells. < 1375969667 586285 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(perl-base is 'required', perl is 'standard'.) < 1375969684 813478 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: that's because they're often used in init scripts and the like, I guess < 1375969697 44021 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I have a suspicion that apt is written at least partly in Perl < 1375969711 51578 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :But apt is pimportant. < 1375969717 852537 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ aptitude search '~pimportant !~i' < 1375969718 100535 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :c libboost-iostreams1.46.1 - Boost.Iostreams Library < 1375969721 404945 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :c libboost-iostreams1.48.0 - Boost.Iostreams Library < 1375969721 758035 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also called "p. important". < 1375969724 450715 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :p libboost-iostreams1.53.0 - Boost.Iostreams Library < 1375969727 331851 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :p libboost-iostreams1.54.0 - Boost.Iostreams Library < 1375969730 339109 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :c libept1 - High-level library for managing Debian package information < 1375969733 371592 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :c libsysfs2 - interface library to sysfs < 1375969736 402868 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :p nfacct - netfilter accounting object tool < 1375969739 388967 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are there a bunch of versions of a boost library there < 1375969743 6084 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That dirty ortant. < 1375969749 157410 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Because of aptitude. < 1375969760 133505 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but four versions? < 1375969761 476248 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what does required use as the package manger? < 1375969765 238509 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: (It depends on libboost-iostreams.) < 1375969765 497986 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dpkg + wget? < 1375969769 261125 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but four versions? < 1375969775 364549 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the query is bad < 1375969785 406931 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it showing other versions that could satisfy the requirement for libboost-iostreams and hence are important < 1375969792 429121 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite the fact that I'll have some other version of libboost-iostreams installed? < 1375969800 636004 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that makes sense, I guess < 1375969812 837504 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no wget. Presumably you need to load debs off a floppy. < 1375969813 90581 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Those two "c" entries are some kind of conflicts, I think. < 1375969822 804314 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :debian is hard :( < 1375969832 864917 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, is this a version of debian before or after they invented "breaks"? < 1375969840 114255 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is jessie < 1375969843 647382 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it started as squeeze or something < 1375969848 521608 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe even the one before squeeze < 1375969859 164574 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably a new version, then, because I don't recognise that codename < 1375969866 380712 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except that it comes from toy story) < 1375969872 406382 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ aptitude search '~i !~M !~E !~prequired !~pimportant !~Rbuild-essential' | less < 1375969875 384945 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems pretty good < 1375969881 151848 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: jessie is testing right now < 1375969882 755548 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: Both gcc-4.7-base and gcc-4.8-base are in priority: required. < 1375969885 582087 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: right < 1375969900 851331 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, is the official Debian package manager apt-get or aptitude this week? < 1375969902 506566 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that makes sense, I think < 1375969938 612329 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also some rather curious things that presumably are dependencies of something; like libtext-charwidth-perl "get display widths of characters on the terminal". < 1375969962 560373 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, I had gcc 4.4 installed < 1375969964 992225 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :libncurses is prequired. < 1375969966 589458 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I don't < 1375969975 912624 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like "prequired", it looks like a word < 1375969985 983938 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I have busybox installed explicitly < 1375969992 662654 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why would I have installed busybox? < 1375969996 447930 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think bash is the only program that needs it. < 1375970012 622833 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I wonder if there's a way to phrase "not depended on by any other installed packages" < 1375970019 676360 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to find the leaves < 1375970037 211059 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean the roots? < 1375970041 315233 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er. yes. < 1375970041 570537 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1375970045 489867 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm no good at plants. < 1375970056 461451 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ones that are not depended on are leaves < 1375970069 866199 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ones with no dependencies are roots < 1375970093 32257 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and those seem like as good names as any for those things < 1375970096 618038 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words 20 < 1375970100 867613 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :teiwerke ben kiim men khi jan earra tam sacripe dugo maged traft distile elson flama vasci crawa word unho sou < 1375970103 887235 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :dependency leaf/dependency root < 1375970106 275649 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :use those < 1375970125 72695 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Word. < 1375970126 402000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: util-linux PreDepends on libncurses5 too. < 1375970127 594201 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why do I have tcpd installed? < 1375970131 787420 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember installing half these packages < 1375970149 239570 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: (And a couple of pimportant things -- procps, bsdmainutils -- but nothing else prequired.) < 1375970181 132536 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, bash doesn't; just libtinfo5. < 1375970185 144611 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1375970189 729635 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does my server have mplayer installed??? < 1375970191 301908 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1375970192 765730 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for mencoder < 1375970204 459361 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does my server have mingetty installed... < 1375970235 313684 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the virtual terminal provided by your VPS system's VNC console thingamajick? < 1375970250 171122 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's explicitly installed and stuff. < 1375970257 394831 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that just means the VPS installation process might have explicitly installed it. < 1375970273 630449 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a victory: learned that mailman was installed; uninstalled it. < 1375970448 383766 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i console-setup - console font and keymap setup program < 1375970452 704362 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on, why is this installed < 1375970477 261236 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gets done real early in the setup, automatically, by the installer. < 1375970489 72474 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does? < 1375970492 812919 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :console-setup. < 1375970499 962468 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you trying to uninstall things until debian stops working < 1375970503 731101 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: yes < 1375970508 976177 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think everything that's done as a particular step by the installer ends up in your query. < 1375970517 490676 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's annoying < 1375970522 266857 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should mark these things better :( < 1375970531 259826 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. I've got exim4 there, and I certainly didn't install it explicitly myself, but the installer did to get the default mail system in place. < 1375970552 863512 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have never attempted to use the automatically-installed indicator manually. < 1375970566 347914 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i eject - ejects CDs and operates CD-Changers under < 1375970579 667212 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eject's description is misleading < 1375970584 7631 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to believe that I can cause the CD tray of some physical server sitting in a data centre somewhere to pop out < 1375970589 808690 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would make my day, I think < 1375970604 767928 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want to believe that your rack mount server has a CD tray < 1375970609 452042 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a VPS. < 1375970613 23025 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it unmounts arbitrary removable media, regardless of whether it's a CD or a USB stick or whatever < 1375970614 923542 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't I dream? < 1375970626 155557 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh ok, it could be a virtual CD tray. < 1375970629 183620 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and thus is necessary because umount only works as root) < 1375970643 397183 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what do you want if you just want a sendmail executable these days on Debian? < 1375970651 525557 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :install exim and just accept that you'll have a daemon running? < 1375970689 643432 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've used 'scmail' for a thing where I just wanted a sendmail-binary-compatible replacement that always sends everything to a SMTP server. < 1375970728 72166 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that ssmtp? < 1375970743 66271 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that wants a proper mail server < 1375970753 501868 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my use-case is "MediaWiki wants to be able to send emails" < 1375970774 331757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, do you want people to be able to receive the emails it wants to send? < 1375970783 333513 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a perfect world < 1375970818 338707 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ii g++ 4:4.7.2-1 i386 GNU C++ compiler < 1375970821 412574 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ii g++-4.7 4.7.3-4 i386 GNU C++ compiler < 1375970824 333165 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ii gcc 4:4.7.2-1 i386 GNU C compiler < 1375970827 424614 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ii gcc-4.7 4.7.3-4 i386 GNU C compiler < 1375970830 430277 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ii gcc-4.7-base:i386 4.7.3-4 i386 GCC, the GNU Compiler Collection (base package) < 1375970833 440002 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ii gcc-4.8-base:i386 4.8.1-2 i386 GCC, the GNU Compiler Collection (base package) < 1375970836 377631 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do wonder why gcc-4.8-base is all on its own there. < 1375970836 988677 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're running mediawiki, and you don't like the exim daemon? < 1375970846 752345 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :4.8 is the hipster version < 1375970850 467202 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :scmail, ssmtp and one-other-I-forget-which are reasonable replacements for the case where you have a nearby real (SMTP-accessible) mail server and you want to use that for all outgoing mail. < 1375970880 361613 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't sending mail require a daemon, in general, for the case where there's a temporary fault on the next server in the chain? < 1375970901 260698 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I don't mind exim. < 1375970905 535626 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: Not if you can live with the fact that the 'sendmail' binary just returns an error in that case. < 1375970906 672755 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: it has postfix right now and I don't know why. < 1375970917 286344 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally I'd just install the simplest "Debian Way"(tm) thing for it. maybe that is just exim < 1375970936 783428 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the typical mail chain is of length 2 these days < 1375970940 397979 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375970942 797777 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: (If you want to talk directly to other people's mail servers, then.) < 1375970956 975810 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there is a way to install mencoder that doesn't hurt me by having packages named e.g. libgl1-mesa-glx and libxinerama1 on my server. < 1375970976 345443 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: My most recent message in the inbox has 11 Received: headers. < 1375971002 997225 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mailing list? < 1375971024 573165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: Well, yes. Let's see a most recent non-list post. < 1375971044 401821 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 Received:-headers. < 1375971065 753294 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: it's very often the case that a closure property of regular languages has a natural implementation by FSA, but there is really no way to do it with regular expressions < 1375971074 870871 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, mencoder depends on mplayer. < 1375971075 293870 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1375971100 378957 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yeah, that makes sense < 1375971104 228303 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also vice versa < 1375971114 876079 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you give an example of the vice versa < 1375971118 890328 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't < 1375971144 304568 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :trivial things like reversal & homomorphisms are slightly easier with regexps, but they are also trivial for FSA. < 1375971150 429773 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I need ghostscript for mediawiki < 1375971161 918304 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's one on the Wikipedia page: (a+b)*a(a+b)(a+b)(a+b)(a+b)(a+b) < 1375971162 532802 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is annoying beacuse it also wants me to have libxinerama1 < 1375971163 281824 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe there are such examples, dunno < 1375971175 603319 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should just install ubuntu < 1375971177 563736 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and forget I have packages < 1375971177 846986 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :scia-ca-demic.org (first source), smtp-in-02.aalto.fi (ingress SMTP here), "localhost (Email Security Appliance)", marconi.ics.hut.fi (departmental SMTP inside the local network), localhost (amavisd), marconi.ics.hut.fi (again), marconi.ics.hut.fi (Cyrus LMTP). < 1375971187 833162 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get an exponential blowup of state because you need to remember which of the most recent 6 characters have been a < 1375971213 4640 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is "again" a hostname, there? < 1375971213 999043 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay NFA < 1375971229 507360 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, you can't get a combinatorial explosion converting a regex to an NFA < 1375971235 44550 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: No, it was a description. < 1375971260 520775 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost want to call a computer "again", now, but it'd violate my naming convention < 1375971266 415044 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where all my computers are named after biomes < 1375971280 622499 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does ais523_ have a computer named "nether" yet < 1375971301 452831 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but isn't all of .fi just one host or something < 1375971308 646615 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, also I don't think that's a real biome < 1375971321 690205 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is fsvo real < 1375971336 578072 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be one machine named "disco", for the new 1.6 cañons. < 1375971355 314143 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Checked another chain for the personal email; that one went: mailsend.netposti.fi - mailsend.netposti.fi - ikiaikainen.iki.fi - jatkuu.iki.fi - fe23.mail.saunalahti.fi - be18.mail.saunalahti.fi - "tmail-2006i.2007-sau", whatever that means. < 1375971372 598552 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should just pay ais523_ to run my server for me < 1375971377 246852 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: how much do you want < 1375971378 257237 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the chains aren't quite of length 2 yet. < 1375971383 899339 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that'd mean having to administer MediaWiki < 1375971390 510177 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: no, it's OK < 1375971392 828629 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't do that either < 1375971406 188109 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just ignore it until the version number gets sufficiently far behind that I feel really guilty < 1375971407 879086 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, a DKIM signature, so fancy. < 1375971411 120222 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: fwiw, I've sometimes taken days to notice that the nethackd on nethack4.org is down < 1375971417 186372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Mail headers are such a joy.) < 1375971434 168237 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: I guess your community is scared of you < 1375971435 593569 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or non-existent < 1375971441 605927 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or they'd point it out < 1375971444 970507 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's more that the user-visible error message is really misleading < 1375971448 426201 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"IPv6 error" < 1375971452 411186 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1375971453 203336 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I installed my computer, I named it test < 1375971459 465030 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :regardless of what protocol they connected via < 1375971461 313824 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both http://pulseaudio.org/ and http://alsa.opensrc.org/ have been down the last couple of days, right when I was configuring those two things. < 1375971466 749860 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This leads to weird pauses when looking at network logs < 1375971478 795734 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had to use some sort of freedesktop.org copy of PA documentation and whatnot. < 1375971508 438060 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: it actually really annoys me that I have PHP and MySQL installed just for one abominable program :) < 1375971534 172776 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It annoys me that I have PHP and MySQL installed for just one abominable program (Gallery2). < 1375971535 151686 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad there is not really any viable alternative I could get away with < 1375971536 90761 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think MySQL is a dependency of something important in Ubuntu. Somehow. < 1375971552 625384 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's if you consider anything in ubuntu important < 1375971553 200275 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is mariadb ubuntu-ready? < 1375971560 947175 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be MariaDB I have < 1375971571 618392 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it is still just horrific < 1375971608 985007 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Qt4 brings in the MySQL client, but at least not the server. < 1375971657 962897 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: oh, the worst thing about MW is that Debian's package is really old < 1375971662 632943 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a real pain to upgrade < 1375971671 182689 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Via libqtgui4 -> libqt4-declarative -> libqt4-sql -> libqt4-sql-mysql -> libmysqlclient18.) < 1375972383 711519 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375972908 734447 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1375972909 25291 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Obstruction" to "Obstruction" < 1375973010 528060 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh < 1375973105 82150 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think elliott is in a serious pinch. < 1375973286 129764 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi Hats < 1375973286 379857 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Retiring" to "Radiance" < 1375973423 826210 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: ~yi ignores its parameters. you have to think about the question with your mind (or soul, if you prefer. in an emergency, you can also use a rental soul, but results aren't as good usually. ymmv. hth.) hth. < 1375973443 572125 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could also tag your yises to remember what were the questions asked. < 1375973629 286218 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375973681 960288 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Helloover. < 1375973715 770684 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, boily, I'll keep that in mind =) < 1375973716 897728 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also < 1375973720 389473 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Phantom_Hoover < 1375973722 634520 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​03P05h13antom_Hoove06r: Welcome to the intern12ational 10hub09 for eso04te05ric programming language design and deployment!06 For more i06nfo13rma06tion, check03 ou02t ou06r 14wiki: ht05tp://es02olangs.org/wik10i/Main03_Pa05ge.12 (For09 03th07e other09 kind of es06oterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net02.) < 1375973747 644182 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rello < 1375973865 947617 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I never knew what relcome looked like, until I viewed it in a webclient < 1375973869 624320 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I filter colors on my usual client) < 1375973917 333680 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://leonarnott.neocities.org/ awesome < 1375973922 868195 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey, it'a ais. hais < 1375973925 828272 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"neocities"? < 1375973930 101270 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like geocities and reocities? < 1375973931 166443 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beats me < 1375973946 359402 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, looks like it < 1375973956 924141 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry I was missing for a while, I was trying to track down a copy of a specific paper book < 1375973960 585838 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Designed as a 21st century reincarnation of GeoCities, NeoCities lets you make your own site for free. And it just might spark a renaissance of creativity online. " < 1375973967 269499 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what book < 1375973972 810630 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it seems that everyone has been copying citations of it without looking at the actual book itself < 1375973987 163438 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: why. why did you link to that. < 1375973989 959987 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out the library here has a copy but it's buried in some secret vault somewhere that takes a while to open, or something < 1375974003 706302 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Switching theory. Vol. 2, Sequential circuits and machines", fwiw < 1375974016 640844 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's what everyone cites as the source of the Muller C-element < 1375974024 381178 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :invigorating < 1375974033 814393 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Bike, want a job < 1375974040 129137 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(interestingly, Muller appears to be Muller not Müller, and yet the book is by... Miller) < 1375974060 119157 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I'm wondering if it really is the original source, or if there's an older one < 1375974067 303979 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sure what is it < 1375974099 321882 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: write a mediawiki replacement in any language other than PHP with any storage mechanism other than MySQL. < 1375974105 969361 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll give you $300. < 1375974114 163877 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there used to be an experimental postgresql branch of mediawiki < 1375974125 948732 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it supports postgres < 1375974141 694513 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't see much point converting the database to only get (a) worse support, (b) still have to use PHP, (c) etc. < 1375974142 831953 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's half of the problem solved :) < 1375974147 788763 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah < 1375974155 481352 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if you could compile the PHP into something else < 1375974171 675668 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, sure. < 1375974181 695390 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it'd still have the architecture of a PHP application < 1375974183 884032 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll use http://esolangs.org/wiki/Cbrain < 1375974219 978765 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're the one missing out on $300 here < 1375974347 324330 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think $300 is enough to justify learning web programming < 1375974414 742071 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a professional developer. I could do that for you, starting rate at 100 CAD/hour, negociable. < 1375974443 14536 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that is okay as long as you do it in three hours. < 1375974512 67526 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait is it just "300 dollars" independent of currency < 1375974519 270141 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure. < 1375974525 457575 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as they're dollars < 1375974590 986333 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the highest-valued dollar < 1375974592 953621 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar#Economies_that_use_a_dollar hm < 1375974594 643936 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll go with NZD, then :D < 1375974596 951146 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :need some exchange rates here < 1375974624 486739 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how for antigua and barbuda it's just XCD < 1375974638 253820 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fuck if i know what letter to use" < 1375974727 232083 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highest-valued_currency_unit < 1375974763 194844 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cayman islands dollar looks like the best < 1375974824 232683 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd get like $360 USD, nice < 1375975409 836049 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fucking hell < 1375975454 61606 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :warwick have decided to replace their outdated student management webpage thing with an absolutely horrible one < 1375975481 62514 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it based on Banner? < 1375975511 658341 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1375975515 598155 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to know < 1375975564 913883 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you do. http://www.ellucian.com/Solutions/Banner-Student/ < 1375975601 438727 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that thing is pure absolute certified crap. we had a undemocratic totalitarian forced transition pushed on us when I was at university. < 1375975756 813917 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: si quelqu'un de louche avec un trenchcoat dans la rue te propose d'aller à l'université laval, dit non. < 1375975805 377817 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Considérant que c'est à 3h d'ici et que je dois prendre le train pour 16h00... Okay =P < 1375975955 354705 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1375976086 653738 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: ooh, maybe Esolang could run on ikiwiki instead < 1375976115 523438 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure wiki migrations from one codebase to another are massively easy or successful < 1375976121 722639 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW < 1375976130 286508 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: yes, but MediaWiki is just that awful... < 1375976137 981979 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is it awful? < 1375976141 436416 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: imagine how difficult migrating from it will be, then! < 1375976146 753003 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: ideally I would write something with the exact same markup/template/etc. stuff as MediaWiki < 1375976164 718164 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: the most obvious reason for a server admin is that it uses up mindbogglingly high server resources for no obvious reason < 1375976172 692465 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: Alright. =P < 1375976185 301476 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use MediaWiki and never noticed anything wrong, so I was curious < 1375976195 921887 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite nice from a user's point of view < 1375976203 639729 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the server resources are OK < 1375976205 754279 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't fall into the trap of trying to use markdown for markup, for instance < 1375976206 389455 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean that I admin a MediaWiki site < 1375976207 311355 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except like, MySQL itself takes up a ton < 1375976215 520153 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming you use caching etc. < 1375976221 287663 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you don't then you're really crazy of course < 1375976233 228502 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on the number of hits you get, I'd guess < 1375976235 783328 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it depends on how often the site is accessed < 1375976244 113608 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be surprised if I got more then 5/day =P < 1375976265 188962 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it also takes something like three lines of configuration to set up caching < 1375976277 836956 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but what if you get slashdotted? or reddited? or linked from the home page of Google? < 1375976308 462645 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Considering that all that's on the Wiki is the ruleset for a Nomic game that's in a coma and some docs for a Super Mario World ROM Conversion that my brother is doing < 1375976332 751341 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then this happens: http://wiki.psychose.ca/ < 1375976338 188945 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The wiki isn't public =P) < 1375976355 161054 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heck, I was supposed to put in a $wgLogo, but never did < 1375976532 61819 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, ikiwki has templates < 1375976561 772374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1375976620 255343 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I think I'll stick to the plan of joining #esoteric if and only if I have something esoprogramming-related to say < 1375976625 349307 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to go home, anyway < 1375976627 943766 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :night! < 1375976661 612078 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1375976662 128228 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is markdown a trap < 1375976669 836171 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we will never know < 1375976681 948509 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got to stop these damnded naps < 1375976913 546281 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stay alert at all times < 1375976930 292346 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you never know when the six pigs will begin their forage < 1375977044 625828 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1375977048 855589 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn pigs these days < 1375977053 698270 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foraging and < 1375977054 362777 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1375977055 276829 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff < 1375977516 922774 :ka7la!~katla@amcant.demon.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1375977517 547860 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1375977568 325374 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i forgot the capitals < 1375977581 941957 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you never know when the Six Pigs will begin their Forage < 1375977589 641007 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or `Dread Forage' as it is oft known < 1375977678 365855 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375979339 185799 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, we don't talk about the Dread Forage, lest we invoke Its Happening < 1375979365 907240 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't go overboard with the capitals < 1375979792 668616 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the Gate < 1375979794 398459 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the Key < 1375980180 651588 :Administrator1!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375980198 963860 :Administrator1!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup < 1375980297 508673 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Administrator1 < 1375980299 820760 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07Ad14ministrator1: Welc08ome t14o07 the inter08nat10i10ona13l05 hub 04for12 esot08eric programming language design and d04epl09oymen03t! For more inf04o05rma13tion, che03ck out our wiki: ht12tp://esolangs.or09g/wiki/Mai09n_05P02age. (For the other kin10d o08f esoterica, try #esoteri07c on irc.08dal.ne04t.) < 1375980499 243395 :Administrator1!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1375980507 203402 :Administrator1!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shoot how do I change my name in here? < 1375980512 993599 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/nick < 1375980529 375740 :Administrator1!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :fox___ < 1375980531 36679 :fox___!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woot < 1375980532 844441 :fox___!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty < 1375980596 933451 :fox___!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup phantom_hoover < 1375980626 542995 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1375980631 879996 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only deal with what's left < 1375980641 473094 :fox___!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's left? < 1375980650 470567 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lamp < 1375980708 230983 :fox___!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1375980709 612876 :fox___!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moving? < 1375980725 228783 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no such thing as a moving lamp < 1375980737 720912 :fox___!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1375980748 759472 :fox___!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what do you guys talk about on here? < 1375980789 607888 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :post-structural marxism < 1375980818 120491 :fox___!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1375980826 314366 :fox___!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1375980827 548589 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375980833 523512 :fox___!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that btw < 1375980833 523625 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so elliott < 1375980838 975070 :fox___!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :post structural I mean < 1375980844 966997 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's your opinion on the dielectric < 1375980857 473879 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit too electric < 1375980862 106472 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not too keen on the dying, either < 1375980946 166481 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very true < 1375980958 487178 :fox___!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dying? < 1375980999 905610 :fox___!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatcha talking about? < 1375981003 896625 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fox___, (we did tell you what the channel was about in rainbow colours) < 1375981016 235511 :fox___!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1375981032 881388 :fox___!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know not much of political theory but was confused by the mention of electric-dielectric < 1375981101 404738 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a marxist dialectic, and i live in constant hope that i will one day be able to make a decent pun on it with dielectric < 1375981115 80917 :fox___!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1375981210 513865 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this channel is actually about esolangs, which mostly manifests in the form of the offtopic tangents averaging out to being centred on esolangs) < 1375981251 495547 :fox___!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right..reading about them now < 1375981275 186520 :fox___!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so church of the subgenius applied to extra cryptic programming...nice < 1375981403 317132 :fox___!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/pics13/devivals/2007/Balto-07poster-legume.jpg < 1375981440 101224 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't work as well in high-res, loading from the top-down < 1375981460 793775 :ka7la!~katla@amcant.demon.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is ICFP competition out yet? < 1375981542 269154 :ka7la!~katla@amcant.demon.co.uk QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375981686 68455 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375982129 786254 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375983067 362124 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375983107 41811 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1375983720 936792 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1375984073 450005 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1375984280 108990 :Administrator1_!Administra@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375984357 800846 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1375984488 47725 :fox___!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1375984603 989610 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1375984860 57070 :Administrator1_!Administra@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375984868 33119 :Administrator1_!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375984871 114248 :Administrator1_!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :fox___ < 1375985272 128262 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1375985312 781564 :Administrator1_!Administra@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375985328 68789 :fox___!~Administr@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1375985761 205764 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp, I "fixed" that USB audio stick issue by the ludicrously low-tech manner of just writing a fixed default.pa config that doesn't use the usual approach (module-udev-detect loading module-alsa-card*N) but just configures module-alsa-sinks and module-alsa-sources in a predefined manner; that way it doesn't seem to really touch mixer controls. < 1375985894 242733 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stands far, far away from fizzie's PA aura < 1375985894 809740 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375985924 596100 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried out the JACK thing, and it... worked, but it wasn't really the best fit for a desktop audio config like this. < 1375986121 679866 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jack is good. jack is your friend. < 1375986178 215708 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know. I need volume control for my headphones, and I don't have any proper audio hardware with knobs and such. < 1375986182 354202 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, if you eventually manage to get PA correctly running with multiple audio devices (and some USB ones), ping me please. < 1375986200 57031 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wiring things through jack-mixer "worked", but was very clunky. < 1375986200 722531 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. well. then maybe JACK is perhaps a little bit maybe too overkill. < 1375986222 751117 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from the pretty splines you get from that, it can get nightmarish enough quickly. < 1375986326 284352 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This PA setup seems okay now that I convinced it to not really do too much. When it tried to manage "cards" it was kind of crummy, but now it just has a list of ALSA PCM playback devices as sinks, and capture devices as sources, and that's about it. < 1375986354 899707 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though without the udev autoloading thingie in place, I need to run a pa script after plugging in the stick; perhaps not a great chore. < 1375986388 784892 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just use plain alsa instead of pulseaudio? < 1375986394 427279 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curiously enough, the onboard audio actually has passable quality in this system. On the previous one, with headphones, there was horrible amounts of noise e.g. when moving the mouse around, or esp. windows. < 1375986422 669433 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1375986513 92699 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Because it's so awkward when I want to move some audio stream from USB-stick headphones to soapbox mini-speakers to S/PDIF out to the big speakers. Every app does its configuration differently; and changes to .asoundrc take place only when they feel like it. < 1375986569 865932 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1375986575 201838 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375986638 71305 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375986652 449213 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd probably go with Alsa and dmix if I just had that one audio device that'd have all these modalities. < 1375986675 25595 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like you've found an actual usecase for pulseaudio then, congratulations < 1375986722 655393 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375986764 981593 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's some sort of a thing on the onboard sound chip that it can make a copy of the "Default PCM" stream into the S/PDIF hole, so that sort of merges two of the three, but there's still the headphones. (Unless I switch to using the headphone port on the onboard sound, which wasn't an alternative before.) < 1375986875 993317 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, you could, you know, use a windows machine :P < 1375986887 297217 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sez the linux guys who works for a FOSS company...) < 1375986966 117183 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This machine does in fact have a Windows nowadays, since I had some leftover disks. < 1375986970 208420 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use the designated audio output on the sound card; that ought to work better than using USB, because then you don't get the noise when moving the mouse and whatever. < 1375987013 432854 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: In the old system I had, it was exactly the other way around. The USB device had very good audio quality, while the onboard audio out was noisy as anything, especially when something happened on-screen. < 1375987035 700326 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In this new setup, both seem fine.) < 1375987130 511341 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I have actually heard of both ways in different computers, but maybe the onboard audio was a defective sound card? It would seem that if it is implemented properly, the analog output of the sound card should work. (The operating system might not be designed for any of this, though, necessarily. But I think there is a variant of Linux which is designed for this?) < 1375987557 122836 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: who do you work for? < 1375987569 994598 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :streaming audio over the network is another actual use case for pulseaudio < 1375987644 355466 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've enjoyed using this (or another audio daemon? i forgot) to have video playing from the media server on the big projection screen, with audio sent to my headphones via laptop (so I don't disturb housemates) < 1375987665 566431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :still I think it's absurd that Pulse is the default even for people with the common case of one audio device < 1375987850 37645 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1375987862 710712 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Scandinavia and the World, Finland's shirt is a lot more centred than I thought < 1375987881 441601 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi somebody tell me something interesting that has nothing to do with dawkins < 1375987933 261051 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, in Scandinavia and the World, characters who would have Nordic crosses on their shirts have them way too centred < 1375987983 621303 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For reference, http://satwcomic.com/poster < 1375988006 853143 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is weird. < 1375988027 770411 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the black catlooking thing < 1375988067 996634 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of like the idea of switching to plain ALSA, and the sound quality seems fine... but the computer's headphone port is pretty much on the floor, while the USB stick is in a hub on the desk, and the cable's more comfortable that way. < 1375988127 223422 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, an Icelandic Hellspawn < 1375988138 1755 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because Iceland is right next to hell, don'tchaknow < 1375988148 731223 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sensible < 1375988190 217852 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing on Denmark's head is a beer-drinking ghost < 1375988191 223771 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://satwcomic.com/worthless < 1375988204 749087 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't assemble the royal seal from 1p coins alone, idiot < 1375988232 941133 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop ruining my immersion, comic < 1375988236 280362 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, it's written by a Dane. The author slapped the Brit who was explaining it to her then ran away < 1375988272 380837 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :she even says she played around with them when she was in the uk! this is just sloppy work < 1375988325 943574 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust kind of has the same problem as C++ where you write everything twice, in a mutable version and an immutable version < 1375988339 732562 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that in C++ you can avoid this just by ignoring const correctness < 1375988431 305576 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1375988440 492911 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:New_British_Coinage_2008.jpg < 1375988442 34953 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see! < 1375988449 801208 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also wow those coins look really shiny < 1375988454 697188 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow phantom i didn't know you were a HUGE NERD < 1375988459 813628 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1375988468 838498 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: savoirfairelinux.com. < 1375988473 291870 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :look this is just basic knowledge < 1375988483 226310 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slaps Bike with a very nerdish penguin. < 1375988497 935079 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well you are a Microsoft Certified Partner too < 1375988541 667660 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how I can kind of read French for no clear reason < 1375988546 745735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe due to knowing some Spanish < 1375988564 190451 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the fact that it's a romance language, i mean come on < 1375988577 184784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe because computer shit is the same in every language < 1375988589 935962 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :drupal est un blog de GPL en PHP < 1375988599 951506 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that also < 1375988605 373869 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHP est merde < 1375988645 547485 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-227-24.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375988647 269373 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-227-24.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1375988660 628356 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-227-24.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375988678 684523 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-227-24.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: from practice reading "segfault" in every language < 1375988681 238997 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-111.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1375988682 473714 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oui < 1375988686 209946 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-227-24.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375988826 809817 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-232-215.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375988982 482817 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-227-24.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375989029 713911 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-232-215.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375989154 676989 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1375989254 645320 :|_!~ddd@115.254.89.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375989347 484409 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: d'accord pour le php. la certification microsoft est un détail technique. < 1375989492 589489 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375989517 208416 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1375989587 344974 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375989950 128348 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375990138 506330 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375990194 188896 :apex!~apex@94-225-204-7.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1375990375 534639 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I have enough coins to do the coiny thing < 1375990495 804678 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha I can < 1375990507 263278 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[S] Taneb: do the coiny thing < 1375990538 813897 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1375990551 488509 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDGI. A keybinding to spawn "scrot -z ..." for a full-screen screenshot works fine; a keybinding to spawn "scrot -s -z ..." just results in "giblib error: couldn't grab keyboard:Resource temporarily unavailable" in .xsession-errors; "scrot -s -z ..." from the command line works just fine and lets me select a rectangle. < 1375990597 522049 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: If you can make the mutable and immutable version in Rust, is there some kind of way to use macros to make it do that automatically in some cases? < 1375990617 456443 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And running scrot -z -s from a spawn "dmenu_run" also works.) < 1375990640 357946 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1375990685 783754 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, would that make me the Heir of Cash < 1375990702 330247 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375990744 66134 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-232-215.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep < 1375990758 282970 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1375990762 903651 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaargh i can't handle all this bureaucracy < 1375990786 774638 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I told you dog. I warned you about the bureaucracy. < 1375990790 813596 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's stupid; apparently spawn "sleep 0.1; scrot -s -z ..." works; the select-a-rectangle mode just doesn't like working if it's started when the hotkey is still down. < 1375990883 273429 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least i know my national insurance number this time < 1375991010 136989 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sometimes < 1375991077 747706 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1375991221 907840 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1375991265 696096 :apex!~apex@94-225-204-7.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375991384 371141 :ap3x!~apex@94-225-204-7.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1375991814 5135 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my emergency contacts list somehow has my father listed in both slots, in one of them as my daughter < 1375991915 796407 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1375991937 706009 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time travel and future technology gender reassignment surgery?# < 1375991952 405454 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, you're your own grandfather# < 1375991962 96275 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do I keep hitting hash before enter# < 1375991986 507659 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently < 1375992037 284293 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your keyboard are weird. < 1375992053 388835 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, 'widefingeritis' < 1375992069 867179 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1375992079 188348 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's inaccurateandslippyfingeritis < 1375992081 123556 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit, they want to know where i'm living next year < 1375992128 624333 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hexham < 1375992130 435270 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CA < 1375992132 119101 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland < 1375992134 136562 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah < 1375992156 775962 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ICFP out yet < 1375992222 285604 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: don't worry, I want to know where you live this year. < 1375992232 675370 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: when the Infamous Interview will be out too. < 1375992249 246287 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, so do I < 1375992260 735444 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote FN35EM < 1375992262 365722 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375992275 633002 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. looks like I had never mentioned where in montreal I live. < 1375992277 559629 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs FN35EM < 1375992298 246732 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can hear HackEgo churning and grinding... < 1375992298 447102 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1375992323 586299 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.7170 < 1375992344 397317 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. I did. < 1375994017 169429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1375994132 726091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<Phantom_Hoover> you never know when the six pigs will begin their forage <-- wat < 1375994154 425213 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shh! do not speak of the porcine ones too loud < 1375994199 604915 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they related to these http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20130805 < 1375994255 444319 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1375994264 817824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish < 1375994270 755894 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: where does Taneb live < 1375994281 906376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1375994306 738671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hexham apocalypse, i take? < 1375994433 328680 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-232-215.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :six pigs < 1375994457 244405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also by wikipedia forage is either plant material or fish, so i think we should be safe. < 1375994943 480155 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, the "really" thing (of postgresql 9.3+142really9.1+146) seems to be a full-blown Debian-testing/unstable convention; here's yafaray 0.1.2+really0.1.2~beta5-5+b1. < 1375995027 640699 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, to Them Of Whom The Jews Do Not Eat we are but fish < 1375995091 242782 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose i _do_ recall some stories of pigs eating people. < 1375995194 348824 :Administrator1_!Administra@c-69-245-112-54.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375995485 154464 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375995494 836023 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-232-215.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375995683 930780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <Phantom_Hoover> my emergency contacts list somehow has my father listed in both slots, in one of them as my daughter < 1375995687 107762 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1084) <Phantom_Hoover> my emergency contacts list somehow has my father listed in both slots, in one of them as my daughter < 1375995691 868607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a moment in #esoteric. < 1375995698 705651 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1375996169 509989 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1375996174 478167 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375998619 22334 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375999207 164029 :|_!~ddd@115.254.89.117 QUIT : < 1375999433 64025 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://betabeat.com/2013/08/app-will-ping-you-when-its-time-to-bang/ cool < 1375999494 231810 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375999618 203540 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill earth < 1375999654 672900 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? How? < 1375999677 553580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy is angry because he bumped his toe on it hth < 1375999702 204047 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you have to be more careful next time. < 1375999761 342483 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wow < 1376000537 940549 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-233.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376000635 513325 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376000871 463440 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376001173 356419 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376001391 720929 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376001925 846440 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1376001962 58201 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376002238 807803 :nooodl!~nooodl@78.20.118.11 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376002848 67754 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376003116 316870 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: exciting new rust runtime < 1376003170 478384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1376003175 733113 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as of today, Rust's runtime is written in Rust < 1376003180 178254 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not many languages can do that < 1376003189 112745 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that is nice. < 1376003189 398015 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except most compiled languages < 1376003190 986970 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is gcc's runtime written in C? < 1376003197 58466 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc is in C, yes < 1376003204 526277 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, probably < 1376003204 996949 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most actually usable compiled languages at least. < 1376003205 576678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: I don't know about that. Not Haskell or OCaml, for sure < 1376003223 846181 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't call libc the "runtime", that would be like crt*.o and libgcc.a < 1376003227 546483 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and C++ is in C++ and I guess java is written in java? < 1376003244 157887 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java isn't compiled to native code so I doubt the JVM is written in Java < 1376003245 553444 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... actually don't know what jvms are written in usually < 1376003247 848435 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can build a C program without libc and ~all of the "language features" still work < 1376003249 317191 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's possible if you JIT it in advance but < 1376003251 147376 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doubtful. < 1376003258 404175 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i don't even know what libgcc is < 1376003262 307375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes Java is compiled to native code < 1376003263 697162 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not usually < 1376003279 547519 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's libgcc do anyways < 1376003281 536816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well for example, if you use uint64_t on a 32-bit machine, it needs to call some function to add double-size integers < 1376003286 998287 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. that stuff. < 1376003293 195107 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there are things like that which look like primitives but actually call into functions < 1376003293 478252 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :__udivdi3 and friends < 1376003294 727710 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the not-in-libc-but-needs-software-support-stuff. < 1376003310 37004 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as? < 1376003312 96925 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what counts as the "runtime" is a bit of a definitions game < 1376003317 7681 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as what kmc just said? < 1376003336 775101 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what primitives are there if you don't use libc nor the magic builtins < 1376003350 327219 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :To make it simpler, say you only call functions you wrote yourself. < 1376003352 628944 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :64-bit ints < 1376003356 186685 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1376003357 581165 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1376003358 345820 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum. < 1376003359 696319 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a 32-bit machine < 1376003362 640352 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like kmc said < 1376003376 797179 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's an implementation detail though, I guess? like, gcc could inline it if it wanted, right? < 1376003377 125343 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's a point < 1376003386 837226 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could and it probably does < 1376003426 453269 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could, there are other routines though sometimes < 1376003438 945137 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does sometimes < 1376003445 687273 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :complex number support, right? < 1376003456 296937 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus inlining can lead to code bloat bla bla bla < 1376003458 766232 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on some machines floating point will be a library call < 1376003461 276658 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or integer multiply even < 1376003461 989038 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :On an actual computer is it the job of the operating system to zero out .bss and whatnot < 1376003470 246863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376003476 786909 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :softfp~ < 1376003481 717333 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've only looked at full disassemblies of executables for microcontrollers < 1376003482 908285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, anonymous mappings are zeroed by default < 1376003493 176518 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where GCC emits a small piece of code to do that because there's no OS. < 1376003497 456980 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for security -- you can't allow leftover data from some other program < 1376003498 166030 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :...or I guess that could come from some sort of library. < 1376003523 943480 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does it zero out the BSS? Is there hardware support for doing that? < 1376003535 950890 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :memset() ¬u¬ < 1376003536 151344 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or does it have to write every byte to zero individually? < 1376003543 726517 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't it just map a pre-zeroed page if possible, or whatever < 1376003550 987643 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :memset() and friends are usually optimized to ridiculous levels < 1376003560 987004 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376003565 396715 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's probably an assembly implementation for all popular platforms. < 1376003577 720222 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1376003579 381463 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It rarely goes byte by byte, on a 64-bit machine you can do at least 8 bytes at a time < 1376003593 196547 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I wouldn't be surprised if x86 had some sort of block fill extension. < 1376003610 48304 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376003611 627624 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: you'll find various unrolled SSE memsets and such < 1376003618 237633 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376003620 494496 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there hardware support for the entire RAM at once in something outside of the CPU? < 1376003630 99161 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Entire RAM at once? < 1376003632 78418 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be suicidal < 1376003632 278594 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you want to zero all of ram at once < 1376003632 278778 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Ivy Bridge has a special optimization such that the lowly REP STOSB is actually really fast < 1376003644 106884 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know they have it for memcpy() / REP MOVSB, but with some wacky restrictions < 1376003648 807983 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Yes, or a very large block such as 1GB, or something like that < 1376003661 327425 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah, you can map a copy-on-write zeroed page < 1376003680 869352 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then if processes reserve lots of .bss and never use it, they don't take up physical memory < 1376003683 846082 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's typically done < 1376003688 16726 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1376003703 818714 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, if the loader is in ROM and the data it keeps track of is stored in registers, then you might want to clear the entire RAM at once before the program is loaded. < 1376003720 435423 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: On what kind of 1980 single-tasking computer? < 1376003720 823346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, you could do that anyway, but this way they can allocate a lot of .bss and read zeroes from it and still not take up physical memory) < 1376003827 668881 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: are you not used to zzo < 1376003839 502906 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: I am not really thinking of a specific kind of computer, but rather if there is a DRAM or something that has a pin for such a function, so that a computer can be made having a BIOS that can do this. < 1376003867 927685 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376003967 198176 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: But I like talking with him! < 1376003979 846867 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, I'm sure it's possible to do. < 1376003996 365151 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sure < 1376003998 317043 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know which ones have such things? < 1376004001 648150 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just occasionally get this < 1376004008 747747 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say I knew of any implementation < 1376004015 278133 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just that it's possible. < 1376004195 592308 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to know which RAM chips do this so that I can make something using this. < 1376004233 937725 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure if any existing chips have this feature. < 1376004246 180247 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :All you really need is a thing to pull all select lines high at once < 1376004280 263581 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually there's no direct access to the select lines. < 1376004401 348120 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, although is the DRAM controller itself on the motherboard on modern computers < 1376004407 579736 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of the chips themselves < 1376004417 524514 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that's so all you need is a soldering iron and a steady hand! < 1376004428 59390 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like zzo should get a few fpgas to mess with < 1376004432 587970 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and probably magic wire that doesn't introduce extra inductance/capacitance to the really high frequency bus < 1376004493 136293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist (909) < 1376004494 608578 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist (909): shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1376004573 142850 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think RAM controllers have been on cpus for a while now? < 1376004751 827909 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah for a long time < 1376004796 526445 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: The RAM bus is not high frequency. < 1376004805 642276 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 200 MHz. < 1376004852 463267 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or less) < 1376004869 940464 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1376004872 647345 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's parallel < 1376004887 369836 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Well, outside the RAM modules themselves at any rate. < 1376004939 841931 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376004982 490325 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"PC3-6400" is a mere 100 MHz, it just has the bandwidth of a hypothetical PC-100 module clocked at 6.4 GHz. < 1376004996 745232 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 909 < 1376004998 124127 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 909: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1376005049 659733 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, sorry, the RAM *bus* is at 400MHz. < 1376005062 859173 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's feeding into 100MHz chips. < 1376005088 178545 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, not the highest frequency bus. < 1376005162 490854 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo.......................................... < 1376005193 648538 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, he tried, shachaf. < 1376005198 952901 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in terms of clock rate USB 2.0 is higher freq? < 1376005249 219151 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I indicated which one so you didn't think there were two updates within 8 minutes of each other < 1376005599 830172 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :humble bundle: now dropping the pay what you want component < 1376005664 274910 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or... apparently not < 1376005667 630761 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we only pay what we don't want? < 1376005887 646113 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: true < 1376005895 814821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels thoroughly `olisted < 1376005897 370098 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: true < 1376005932 903193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will pay what Phantom_Hoover wants < 1376006013 607366 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$300 (you choose the dollar) < 1376006019 419522 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the elliott system < 1376006026 71872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is wondering what they'll do when the protection spell runs out (and the spare in the staff) < 1376006030 29793 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: it's weird to realize that horse_ebooks is actually a very successful spam marketer < 1376006047 325089 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376006047 980179 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1376006066 409499 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo someone should make nlab_ebooks < 1376006102 52241 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m92seuPm161r9hh3yo1_400.jpg update re: gay cuttlefish < 1376006120 550471 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :those aren't cuttlefish < 1376006142 974666 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376006144 830932 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: do you happen to know when super mega updates usually happen < 1376006149 583871 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :when is the evening < 1376006155 503989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what time zone is johnny smash in < 1376006161 331964 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :about nine pounds < 1376006165 551233 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he lives in arizona? < 1376006178 211316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats Bike, disturbingly gently -----### < 1376006195 474287 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1376007399 420397 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1376007885 643157 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you make bets on what happen next in Dungeons&Dragons game I play? < 1376007917 300017 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it like 6th edition < 1376007925 751914 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/EU4mHlT this is me < 1376007951 514438 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: Do you mean the Dungeons&Dragons game? No, it is 3.5 edition. < 1376008009 39085 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Session 38 is the latest one played and recorded. < 1376008041 799273 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are these recorded zzo38 < 1376008055 933509 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? danddreclist < 1376008058 327189 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex (the precompiled .dvi is also available) < 1376008066 923669 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl^: There it is. < 1376008073 801532 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1376008084 883336 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike : the missing link! < 1376008096 905827 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lied i'm a bike. < 1376008114 439009 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like a gorilla tf < 1376008135 916537 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl^: I have told them to add this for all of the `*list so you can write `? to check the informations. (If there is some missing, you can add some.) < 1376008150 903831 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376008153 828289 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1376008157 636011 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oversight: Thank you for volunteering, citizen. http://youtu.be/RIuf1V1FhpY < 1376008241 917924 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, benefit fraud. < 1376008331 684826 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now maybe you can try to bet on this game? < 1376008339 116301 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha, the russia bit < 1376008368 52388 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: pls to tag nsfw < 1376008382 113417 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was hoping you remembered the previous gay cuttlefish < 1376008406 37977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember gay cuttlefish, just crossdressing ones < 1376008410 270899 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1376008411 74947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I will look at this picture later < 1376008412 132179 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :srry < 1376008717 765252 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo : ok how about, hmm < 1376008730 265075 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dungeon crawl, a short fight, 1 x dead player < 1376008838 631665 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: I doubt it, but you can bet how you want to. However, I have meant more specific kind of things, and mainly I mean noncombat things < 1376008875 317964 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smlist (418) < 1376008876 616849 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :smlist (418): shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy < 1376008881 206910 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1376008904 511137 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : no idea how you guys play so I'm going cold here :3 < 1376008909 389033 :ap3x!~apex@94-225-204-7.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376008936 678034 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: it is recorded; you can read all of it (and maybe that gives you a clue?) < 1376008966 506874 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's over IRC? < 1376009002 988169 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. It is played without a computer, although I type everything on the computer afterward, including character sheets, footnotes, and a story text like as if it is a story in some book or something like that. < 1376009224 289245 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kjugobe gets turned into a... < 1376009245 130764 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is sort of like a play by mail chess, except that it isn't play by mail, and it isn't chess, and it involves far more sophisticated strategies than chess. < 1376009360 885334 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376009382 908877 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376009392 644196 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1376009401 265647 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, what could he get transformed into < 1376009401 545187 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex <- the asperger is strong in this < 1376009436 97207 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: An elipsis? < 1376009455 821981 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like it would hurt < 1376009459 453804 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Yes, I am with Asperger, so I suppose that is why. I can improve it later of course < 1376009461 224449 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really bad < 1376009481 952336 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So am I, on paper at least < 1376009531 95421 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and half the rest of this channel < 1376009568 612082 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mood disorder superiority. down with personality disorders, bow before the superior disease < 1376009588 621881 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should improve it later to fill in some omitted stuff and improve to make it a bit more like some novel, but still the same things as it is currently written rather than different. < 1376009639 734801 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the more typical d&d transforms are, what < 1376009670 765445 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :undead? werewolfs? various mythical beasts? < 1376009693 678260 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes, I suppose those are the more typical ones. < 1376009717 220529 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But sometimes there is also temporary transformation. < 1376009738 154921 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit, autism is developmental, not personality < 1376009750 365102 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was i thinking... < 1376009785 206398 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: and gosh, ~some~ of us are PDD-NOS, not AS! < 1376009805 286700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're all special to me <3 < 1376009805 792283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PART #esoteric :"and this discussion in general" < 1376009809 453973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw < 1376009809 689342 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i apologize < 1376009812 485848 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now bow down before me < 1376009820 570835 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh did i say something bad < 1376009824 3314 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh looks like shachaf beat me to the punch < 1376009833 700924 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ :\ < 1376009845 951352 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1376009856 932071 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... sorry ... < 1376009864 421507 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry it's lumpio's fault not yours < 1376009922 423488 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: But I don't really know how to read it to know it is asperger; can you tell me the example of how you will see it is asperger is strong in this? < 1376009928 993028 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(。ー。) < 1376009940 723989 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can just tell < 1376009942 237213 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the aura < 1376009976 618064 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PART #esoteric :"joins shachaf" < 1376009989 561300 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PART :#esoteric < 1376009994 516598 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1376010009 682061 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Aura? < 1376010069 544795 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1376010088 61703 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What aura is that? I don't see any aura. < 1376010258 122478 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is painful < 1376010520 278194 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you haven't trained enough yet < 1376010522 529157 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :To see that aura. < 1376010530 373750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: stop trolling zzo38 < 1376010536 664772 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: he's messing with you < 1376010537 680604 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :.-. < 1376010550 583095 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But he's constantly trolling everybody < 1376010565 630039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so < 1376010579 736277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway, when zzo38 talks we don't have 3 people part immediately < 1376010618 457773 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1376010816 329358 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 83 files changed, 1005 insertions(+), 932 deletions(-) < 1376010820 493382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp this is going to be a pain to review < 1376010822 621386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm not even done yet < 1376011207 578087 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don't mind < 1376011401 744817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well anyway < 1376011450 117184 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: I think people would appreciate it if you refrain from painting with broad strokes like this < 1376011481 693043 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think what you said was horrible or anything, but it's not what we want #esoteric to be < 1376011740 71704 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :good grief did I hurt the aspies' feelings now? < 1376011755 64211 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude. < 1376011809 979492 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :kmc > 1376011810 21891 NAMES :#esoteric < 1376011813 757887 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: don't talk like that. < 1376011874 393317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :come back when you give a shit about your fellow human beings, I guess < 1376011875 937817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com KICK #esoteric Lumpio- :Lumpio- < 1376011879 765299 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c'mon man, are you going to stuff people into lockers < 1376011881 624863 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well then. < 1376011888 209366 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com MODE #esoteric -o :kmc > 1376011888 226364 NAMES :#esoteric < 1376011917 178723 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say i don't get how people can seriously talk like that after having pop culture down their throats, but it's so common, so < 1376011922 259726 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus i probably do it sometimes. < 1376012092 467995 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it got to do with pop culture < 1376012120 15698 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well just "did i hurt your feelings", i kind of automatically hear that in the voice of the bully character in Interchangeable School Drama Show < 1376012169 574585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1376012270 498582 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambeth sounds like lambda < 1376012445 734351 :jaril!~user@250.ip-46-105-18.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376012597 621222 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1376012604 320622 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, yeah, I think I'm done with this channel then. < 1376012611 69513 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turned out to be #dramacentral, would never have believed. < 1376012614 942836 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buy guys _o/ < 1376012615 358929 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1376012615 597891 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           |\ < 1376012620 211476 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa. < 1376012626 579117 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PART #esoteric :"farewell" < 1376012648 454255 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#dramacentral < 1376012677 303926 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :metadrama < 1376012770 129180 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376013106 787899 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1376013193 651017 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1376013229 639152 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wubchaf < 1376013523 403773 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://blogs.plos.org/biologue/2013/08/08/what-does-peer-review-mean-when-applied-to-computer-code/ your employer is p. cool < 1376014475 800030 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1376015135 656836 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376015196 112098 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: this may interest you, (Word of Burlew) < 1376015196 531008 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=15709954#post15709954 < 1376015276 922660 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i ve seen that < 1376015346 253423 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :has oerjan seen it (and FireFly) < 1376015506 321723 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: What happens to threads past page 6? < 1376015515 31125 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1376015548 657974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :_now_ i've seen it hth < 1376015596 872005 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376016045 671993 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: did you know there's a post where he writes "Windstriker charges, striking V and trapping him between Miko and himself." < 1376016126 371811 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I do < 1376016916 924338 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376017020 95626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1376017900 288100 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :5d1 < 1376017900 528224 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 5 < 1376017907 573006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :5d2 < 1376017907 773022 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 8 < 1376018652 707780 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1376018941 817217 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1376019330 666695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, the ICFP contest looks like fun. < 1376021346 998672 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nsa has a new website http://nsa.gov1.info/data/index.html < 1376022732 21352 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 3,8,6,20,24 < 1376022734 20206 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Pisano periods (or Pisano numbers): period of Fibonacci numbers mod n.[1,3,8... < 1376022781 220271 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Pisano periods are named after Leonardo Pisano, better known as Fibonacci." pff. < 1376023607 228850 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I'm missing something when trying to read XKCD < 1376024558 332620 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like randall munroe is missing something when trying to write XKCD < 1376024559 830654 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(burn) < 1376024735 43889 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376025083 789464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unsurprisingly, wakeup from suspend doesn't work on my Linux desktop. (Black screen, no answer to SSH; keyboard leds do react, though.) < 1376025173 44721 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1376025195 949513 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What is this year's ICFP contest? I have seen the previous ones in Wikipedia. < 1376025237 467943 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1376025280 39999 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Huh. It answers to ping; curious that not SSH.) < 1376025299 621881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1376025317 376714 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have had suspend not work properly on various computers regardless of operating system. < 1376025401 414222 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1376025503 302128 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is certainly a thing that happens. < 1376025679 572328 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(At least wake-on-lan works.) < 1376025696 374643 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then use that. Does wake on the telephone rings work? < 1376025748 898088 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje < 1376025891 412514 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a land line, or a modem in this computer. < 1376026106 241453 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't need any of those to use the wake on telephone feature. < 1376026135 163623 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does it work, then? < 1376026171 503672 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Another thing that did not work: alsa-utils tried to execute /usr/sbin/alsactl (to restore mixer levels) before /usr was mounted. (I don't know why, because the initscript has Required-Start: $localfs, and it's much later than the mounting in init script order.)) < 1376026178 753964 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is one of the pins in the serial port which tells the computer if the telephone rings, so connect something else to that port instead. < 1376026203 942100 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1376026359 604418 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recall seeing that feature mentioned in the BIOS setup. < 1376026460 120853 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which people in here have told about what dream they have? I want to know some things such as how commonly things resembling different kinds of logic (or no kinds of logic) applies, and a few others. A few times it has happened when in the dream there was something where linear logic seemed to apply, even though it isn't a case where that would be the case in real life. < 1376026476 291493 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think this was before I knew about linear logic, actually.) < 1376026606 482313 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who (and how many) of you have done this? < 1376027266 892425 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do you even understand what I am talking about at all? < 1376028888 599319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wake-on-van < 1376028902 170840 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :impact in three. brace < 1376028916 899750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woop woop pull up pull up < 1376028932 365191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sink rate < 1376028968 537733 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I do not understand you either. < 1376029072 302465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <zzo38> I think I do not understand you either. < 1376029077 228966 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1085) <zzo38> I think I do not understand you either. < 1376029720 954725 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376030399 839350 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376035410 345354 :ap3x!~apex@d54C6F1E5.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376035642 4798 :ap3x!~apex@d54C6F1E5.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Computer says no < 1376036148 88202 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1376036177 303309 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376036468 470160 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1376036713 35506 :ap3x!~Apex@d54C6F1E5.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376037210 377904 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1376038062 972507 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1376038194 257003 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376038223 26260 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376038399 965911 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't get xkcd either < 1376039981 37544 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376041191 709896 :ap3x!~Apex@d54C6F1E5.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376042898 202026 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376044743 488280 :ap3x!~apex@d54C6F589.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376045876 821080 :ap3x!~apex@d54C6F589.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Computer says no < 1376046080 218340 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-- binaural sound, wave field synthesis systems, and sound source localization using GPGPU --" hmm, maybe I should go and have a listen. < 1376046907 34217 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1376046975 798016 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376047185 326900 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did lumpio piss everyone off again < 1376047236 906652 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the part where he rejoined just to tell us he's never coming back ever. < 1376047577 912488 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there's been some drrama? < 1376047707 529052 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Also to tell us to purchase some guys, I guess? < 1376047827 58138 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :drama, n. when someone doesn't like what you're doing < 1376047853 316496 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dramacentral, n. place where someone tells you they don't like what you're doing < 1376048937 14035 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376049593 571362 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/borrowing/creditcards/10231556/Man-who-created-own-credit-card-sues-bank-for-not-sticking-to-terms.html oh my god < 1376049997 518613 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376050013 729842 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, so it seems that this book has been checked out 17 times, from 1971 to 1984 < 1376050020 312079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then not again until 2013, which was me < 1376050038 711214 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in other words, this book has gone my entire lifetime without anyone reading it) < 1376050161 12922 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376050172 651378 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1376050176 17665 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376050183 763271 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before you leave again =P < 1376050189 458274 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What book is it? =) < 1376050190 552253 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A person with lesser politeness levels might say that it's the likely fate of your (or anyone else's) thesis, too. < 1376050190 921767 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this connection is really unreliable < 1376050201 643957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Switching theory" by Miller, volume 2 < 1376050211 620514 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, cool < 1376050221 171996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it's about theory of switching and not about switching to (some other) theory? < 1376050230 740106 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's actually about digital circuits < 1376050243 698229 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Closer to the former, anyway. < 1376050255 107380 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, the full name is "Switching Theory, Vol. II: Sequential Circuits and Machines" < 1376050296 740567 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see what Google thought it was… "Switching theory. Vol. 2, Sequential circuits and machines" < 1376050298 297902 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not bad < 1376050306 878260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Google had to figure it out indirectly from citations) < 1376050374 85711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was some debate over what its name was, getting a physical copy of it seemed to be one way to settle that < 1376050392 13816 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there's still a punched card in here that someone was using as a bookmark < 1376050525 8309 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :12/3, 11/9, 12/5, 11/5, 0/4/8, 5, 1, 5/8, 5, 1, 4/8, 3/8, 4/8, 1, 4/8 < 1376050558 407171 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also "LINE$51*51<#@1@" is printed on it, which appears to be a translation of the punches (because single numbers represent themselves literally on punched cards) < 1376050564 353825 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have the 12s and 11s backwards, they aren't labeled < 1376050596 982806 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the first 4/8 is actually 11/4/8 < 1376050610 682413 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I missed a hole < 1376050705 241889 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*single digits represent themselves literally < 1376050885 227578 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1376050888 385975 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376050983 254748 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this book seems to be full of a bunch of formal definitions, trying to define what it means for a circuit to be speed-independent < 1376051015 432931 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably why nobody reads it any more; speed-independence is the assumption that your components are slow but your wires transmit information instantaneously < 1376051023 947016 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that turned out to be the opposite of how electronics works in practice < 1376051272 16624 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1376051293 78482 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376051367 856107 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy crap what < 1376051368 316189 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/mame/quine-relay < 1376051368 583809 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They typically do have a printed version of the line for human readers, it seems. < 1376051408 74246 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still haven't figured out how to make a non-trivial lol-my-source-file-is-empty quine yet < 1376051409 529018 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't seem like a particularly useful punched card, anyway < 1376051430 128527 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this guy did *so much better* < 1376051441 919835 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Granted, I never really spent much time trying, but eh) < 1376051442 753224 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1icrny/an_uroboros_program_with_50_programming_languages/cb3vtuq < 1376051447 990585 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :me explaining how to write a quine < 1376051458 361805 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a rather verbose, unobfuscated one < 1376051458 720728 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah ^^ < 1376051472 384822 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. I'd rather not read it, though. < 1376051478 740726 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know the information is easy to find < 1376051489 980522 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want to figure it out on my own =) < 1376051503 950957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, OK < 1376051522 527683 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :50 languages is quite an impressive number. < 1376051548 870028 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: perhaps in terms of the time it'd take to write them all < 1376051563 1999 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol nice < 1376051567 130562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that impressive in terms of quine-writing; when we did botloops back in #esoteric, only one of the bots needed to do anything other than print statements < 1376051592 999610 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah sigfpe show how to do this < 1376051603 139250 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you get the idea adding another language is just a matter of filling out a form < 1376051606 15938 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing a quine that wraps itself in print statements for some other language isn't noticeably harder than writing an ordinary quine < 1376051616 157381 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: yeah, at least if the other language has string literals < 1376051622 258347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it doesn't, e.g. INTERCAL, things get a bit harder < 1376051637 775805 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not /much/ harder, but somewhat < 1376051757 904884 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :J = Y NAND K; K = X NAND J; Q = (X OR J) AND (Y OR K) < 1376051759 11604 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1376051782 809945 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the actual source is formatted as Ouroboros < 1376051790 453695 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: again, not so hard < 1376051805 540100 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Depends on your level =P < 1376051824 437198 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I should write a quine-loop generator that lets you choose which languages to go via, and what shape the source should be formatted as < 1376051830 787226 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's not that hard to fly, really", said the butterfly to the caterpillar < 1376051844 51491 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :AKA I'm not up there yet =P < 1376051941 630149 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, http://blog.sigfpe.com/2011/01/quine-central.html < 1376051965 502585 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you mean like https://github.com/mame/quine-relay/blob/master/src/code-gen.rb < 1376051978 49936 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376051999 281816 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376052000 268144 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1376052007 528972 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it turns out that, the thing everyone cites this book for < 1376052011 147843 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't actually in this book < 1376052048 349827 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it's that boolean expression I posted above, and I don't think it is < 1376052148 730018 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :By everyone do you mean a few dozen people somewhere < 1376052181 422583 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cited by 148" < 1376052183 221181 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, a proper cyclic quine http://www.ioccc.org/2000/dhyang.c < 1376052198 350446 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That might've been for vol 1. < 1376052221 819539 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google Scholar's citation counts are kind of approximative. < 1376052309 40704 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so last month i wanted to cite in my phd that limit sets of cellular automata can be pi^0_1 hard < 1376052317 760077 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and everyone cites an article by hurd < 1376052346 832282 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i checked, and it indeed claims the result, but proves a much simpler thing, completely missing the point < 1376052398 887667 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's cited more than that under different names < 1376052412 772664 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that people care much because everyone thinks they can easily prove it < 1376052437 81784 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Did you prove it to be not true? < 1376052437 746082 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, proving a negative is hard, and proving that something isn't in a book is also hard < 1376052440 784556 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1376052448 133838 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true < 1376052452 130585 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. I was trying to jump to the punchline. < 1376052463 927330 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :would've been cool < 1376052479 657926 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try to analyze that expression I posted above, that might be it < 1376052487 650217 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :J = Y NAND K; K = X NAND J; Q = (X OR J) AND (Y OR K) < 1376052490 692972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1376052500 405172 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :J <= Y NAND K; K <= X NAND J; Q <= (X OR J) AND (Y OR K) < 1376052502 546647 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was no punchline, i just find it funny that no one checks these things before citing. < 1376052512 886475 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :make sure to use the right sort of operator, ais523! < 1376052515 560208 :ap3x!~apex@d54C6F1E5.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376052518 395273 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do. They check the paper that they got it from. < 1376052531 165706 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm true < 1376052535 892764 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cite the original without reading it < 1376052542 626774 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :the punchline was given to us in private communication < 1376052566 63956 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see… if X and Y are both 0, then J and K are both 1, so Q is 1 < 1376052568 402886 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376052579 929965 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376052603 218711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if X is 1 and Y is 0, then J is 1, so K is 0, and so Q is 0 < 1376052606 873404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, this isn't a C-element < 1376052625 21904 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good high-scoring-scrabble-letters morning! < 1376052633 933669 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :afternoon boily < 1376052658 421869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376052662 677147 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heya boily < 1376052666 438027 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's up? < 1376052677 717746 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376052690 10710 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: good fternoon to you too. < 1376052713 568159 :ap3x!~apex@d54C6F1E5.access.telenet.be QUIT :Client Quit < 1376052714 112472 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: had my regular morning bixi ride. it's way too humid outside for my personal tastes and confort zone. < 1376052738 704919 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Getting a Bixi key *would* be a good idea, wouldn't it =P < 1376052751 865368 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either that or getting my actual bike to Lachine =P < 1376052763 628979 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, that's the only two-input one-output circuit in this chapter of the book < 1376052785 849832 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "Bixi" some sort of a bike-share thing with a fashionable name? < 1376052794 149661 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :straight on. < 1376052802 991754 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: They're sharing you. < 1376052825 642192 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1376052826 158126 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 091220Z 20012KT 9999 BKN023 23/17 Q1008 NOSIG < 1376052878 389664 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1376052878 876998 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 091200Z 00000KT 12SM FEW007 OVC015 21/19 A2987 RMK SF1SC8 SF TR SLP113 DENSITY ALT 900FT < 1376052884 760541 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :is icfp out yet? < 1376052889 296518 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet Sutherland is laughing at all of academia right now (at least, the very small slice of it that cares about asynchronous circuits) < 1376052890 797540 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: yes < 1376052894 321530 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the problem < 1376052896 961177 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the II out yet? < 1376052907 680967 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, only 17? It's been very tropical in here. < 1376053001 289105 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :23 °C with dew point at 17 translates to 69% rel. humidity. < 1376053015 27383 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yes, but relative humidity here for the last two days: http://cdn.fmi.fi/weather-observations/products/graphs/observations-101005-13-fi.png < 1376053033 264634 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yuck. < 1376053067 445674 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ 3, everything is water < 1376053076 45111 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1376053092 192232 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes it feels like that a 3am. < 1376053104 333985 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Finland is a subaquatic hoax, like Atlantis or something. < 1376053220 946982 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1376053881 368202 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just booted alpine linux into virtualbox for fun. that things boot frighteningly fast. < 1376053927 411134 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/things boot/thing boots/ < 1376053944 857452 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Powerthirst! Makes your linux box boot abnormally fast! < 1376054037 286820 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1376054056 559925 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I prefer terrifying boot times over weird and unusual ones. < 1376054162 921353 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sound the alarm, your boot's about to get uncomfortably fast < 1376054167 407025 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376054226 449483 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376054430 55755 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, hmm < 1376054440 44266 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be harder to track down the actual source of the Muller C-element than I thoguht < 1376054640 762912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sees double < 1376054737 507471 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: close an eye. < 1376054780 414495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, ais523 still has two nicks < 1376054804 83158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the connection's really bad here < 1376054811 115140 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_ is a wired connection, which is /normally/ more reliable < 1376054818 541520 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376054848 329056 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: shake your monitor so that with retinal persistence the double aises merge into one? < 1376054886 398545 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my connection is also shitty today. :( < 1376054895 251233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although tmux masks that for you. < 1376054931 552578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, mostly horribly laggy. < 1376055059 963442 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I boot plaid. < 1376055088 381957 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :dat ludicrous booting speed < 1376055116 641592 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I boot columbia. that wintery booting speed. < 1376055387 894104 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376055396 526616 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellooodl. < 1376055625 329825 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, according to the ACM, one of my papers (when read aloud) is 901165:12 minutes long < 1376055643 326439 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, hmm, that's not an MP3, it's an MP4 < 1376055647 685014 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 901165:12 minute video, then < 1376055665 672982 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :MP4 doesn't imply video < 1376055670 735467 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1376055680 281902 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't really think this makes much sense in any direction, though… < 1376055708 884033 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 900000 / (60*24) < 1376055710 266749 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 625.0 < 1376055737 928398 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 901165 / 60 / 24 / 365.25 < 1376055737 928573 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.7133717392957637 < 1376055836 941414 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Where do they have those numbers? The generic ACM Digital Library paper-page doesn't seem to say anything about length. < 1376055858 846401 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Leap years, man! < 1376055864 118694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: on the page about the author < 1376055877 974622 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Or, rather, "proper leap years for centuries, man". < 1376055914 297418 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Oh, I see. < 1376055934 508339 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: A colleague has one paper of "2411109:31 MIN", and another of "398752:6 MIN". < 1376055974 168084 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1376055979 366448 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one that's 2411109:31 minutes is 23:57 minutes when opened in their video viewer. < 1376055993 217716 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… is it an actual video? < 1376056008 813678 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It's the slides of the corresponding conference presentation. < 1376056012 509297 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1376056017 640420 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Presumably audio too, I don't have headphones right now. < 1376056034 766747 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: But it started with the last slide of the previous presenter, so I suppose it's from their stream. < 1376056038 558981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 901165 / 60 / 24 / 365.2425 < 1376056039 102503 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.7134069221894432 < 1376056063 900148 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Mulch better. < 1376056101 387856 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think IEEE conference presentations are published anywhere like this. < 1376056119 586508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but i don't have a garden! (knock on wood) < 1376056174 119606 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't like leap years. I'm a proponent for adjusting Earth's revolution period to have a nice, round integer. like, have a 512-day year. < 1376056190 350047 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I like that idea < 1376056207 557888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that means some seriously long winters, mind you < 1376056219 121949 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: yé :D < 1376056222 734572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait or short days < 1376056223 456084 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the ICASSP presentations are, at some superlectures.com site. Curious. < 1376056235 702459 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: don't mind. as Candians, we're used to winters. < 1376056279 529398 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376056288 718306 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… I have a good suspicion of what the /actual/ source is, but apparently there's only one copy in existence and it's at the University of Illinois < 1376056293 291137 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR < 1376056307 14651 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could just make it so that the revolution time = the rotation time < 1376056318 244096 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would probably get rid of winters altogether < 1376056325 752459 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy centrifugal forces, batman! < 1376056341 989880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: also life < 1376056358 269915 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. But think about it. < 1376056364 315134 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those tidelocked planets are not pleasant < 1376056370 530252 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :No more sleet, no more shoveling the snow... < 1376056386 481236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: you're forgetting the side _away_ from the sun hth < 1376056387 440713 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :No more fallen leaves to clean up < 1376056439 224762 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so we make it rotate the other way < 1376056442 482471 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 days = 1 year < 1376056444 63055 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the only lifeforms that would be left are going to be the usual post-nuclear cockroaches, and some megasquirrels. < 1376056470 692726 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better yet, make it rotate so fast that the concept of night/day becomes irrelevant < 1376056487 894667 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that the whole day is light-ish < 1376056499 423524 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :50 shades of, well, shades < 1376056506 998341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: that would also make gravitation irrelevant hth < 1376056520 780025 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just make the planet bigger, then. < 1376056526 493283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1376056547 630536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure that will work without turning it into a neutron star? < 1376056549 145650 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I'm pretty sure you mean otoh, not hth =P < 1376056557 94487 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: are you subtly pointing that we should, like, live on something not entirely unlike a magnetar? < 1376056572 401925 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>implying I'm implying stuff < 1376056578 624408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo is secretly an invading chellah < 1376056579 712532 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh, hth is better than otoh, if twh. nah. hth. hand. < 1376056585 836499 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck chellah < 1376056586 103017 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chellah, (4'D)) or Sala Colonia is a necropolis and complex of ancient Roman Mauretania Tingitana and medieval ruins at the outskirts of Rabat, Morocco. < 1376056597 368942 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM AN INVADING NECROPOLIS < 1376056601 878158 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL BOW BEFORE MY < 1376056602 900117 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1376056605 351146 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :WALLS? < 1376056609 299894 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :NECROBUILDINGS? < 1376056618 448755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cheela < 1376056626 65254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry bout that < 1376056626 320924 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cheela < 1376056628 472961 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheela? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376056629 146697 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1376056629 404290 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           º¯`\o < 1376056644 547232 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <Roujo> I AM AN INVADING NECROPOLIS... ALL BOW BEFORE MY... erm... WALLS?... NECROBUILDINGS? < 1376056648 99506 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1086) <Roujo> I AM AN INVADING NECROPOLIS... ALL BOW BEFORE MY... erm... WALLS?... NECROBUILDINGS? < 1376056654 9433 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck cheela < 1376056654 342450 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376056660 799003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is one of those books i've conveniently read only through wikipedia's plot summary) < 1376056781 589382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: dragon's egg hth < 1376056806 900464 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck dragon egg < 1376056807 300747 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Dragon egg is a summoning pet egg that requires 99 Summoning to obtain. < 1376056831 762353 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there you go. Roujo's has a power of OVER 99 SUMMONING! < 1376056840 45162 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: this is a "hard sci fi" book so the book is probably not more entertaining than the plot summary < 1376056848 914877 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>= 99 != > 99 < 1376056933 222282 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: artistic mathematic license. < 1376056979 330717 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's been revoked" < 1376057004 810803 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, I'm an engineer. it's only an approximative 1% error. nothing to worry about. < 1376057036 896720 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your error of 1% has an error of 1% < 1376057047 94570 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking of becoming an engineer. < 1376057053 635388 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, about error margins < 1376057072 976748 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say you have a reading of 40%, ±1% < 1376057082 675526 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most important thing about error margins is the stroke width in points in your .eps figures. < 1376057097 417439 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the range 39%-41%? Or is it 39,6%-40,4%? < 1376057100 671418 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW DO YOU KNOWWWWWW < 1376057101 977123 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1376057102 237411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i said "dragon's" not dragon hth < 1376057111 562607 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck dragon's egg < 1376057112 19925 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dragon's Egg is a hard science fiction novel written by Robert L. Forward and published in 1980. < 1376057121 917588 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh. relevant info. < 1376057122 753127 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds relevant-er < 1376057134 721031 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relevant info < 1376057135 904040 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: relevant: not found < 1376057138 145786 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1376057138 795267 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1376057141 843934 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? relevant info < 1376057143 262126 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :relevant info? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376057143 715672 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                    | < 1376057143 992337 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  o/`¯º < 1376057147 362209 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There you go < 1376057152 276837 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is where you give up and draw your graph in excel and say "the standard deviation is negligible" < 1376057165 870565 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of standard deviations < 1376057179 357293 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The stats on my final WebDev class were interesting < 1376057188 465984 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Average was ~65% < 1376057199 336548 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Median was 85% < 1376057209 305913 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :StdDev was 40% or something insane like that < 1376057210 438772 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fune < 1376057211 937242 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun* < 1376057343 826459 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: t'étudies où, si je peux me permettre de poser la question? < 1376057356 88263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "The large-eyed mouse lemur is a nocturnal tree-dweller." >wisdom/'relevant info' < 1376057359 309056 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376057379 249669 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Je n'étudies plus, c'est ça l'ennui =P < 1376057392 361471 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i know that one it's some kind of ring < 1376057396 684916 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run forrest | run < 1376057398 43706 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: run: command not found \ bash: forrest: command not found < 1376057448 440166 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ring < 1376057450 844775 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Addition, subtraction and multiplication have a certain ring to them. < 1376057457 491462 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :good'n < 1376057467 677109 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat /dev/urandom > wisdom/'irrelevant info' < 1376057476 832624 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: line 1: 287 File size limit exceededcat /dev/urandom > wisdom/'irrelevant info' < 1376057480 384546 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh shit < 1376057493 349042 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1376057494 872472 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1376057498 135273 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1376057498 392726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no! < 1376057499 822396 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry about that < 1376057510 684781 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to limit it? < 1376057517 353540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: don't revert unless you're sure your change actually went through < 1376057525 447430 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? relevant info < 1376057527 481045 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :The large-eyed mouse lemur is a nocturnal tree-dweller. < 1376057533 913967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or else it will revert something completely unrelated < 1376057538 738489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1376057539 87313 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1376057540 271914 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like relevant information. < 1376057574 284744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom/irrelevant info < 1376057576 45990 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/irrelevant info: No such file or directory < 1376057592 755142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i guess that worked < 1376057601 831481 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, say I want to put random garbage in that file < 1376057613 952872 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without making it wayyy too big for its own good < 1376057619 789813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, it seems that archive.org digitized a copy < 1376057625 711130 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and none of the usual search engines knew about it < 1376057628 562746 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would I go about and do that? < 1376057629 501881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: we already have a wisdom entry with random garbage. < 1376057631 85096 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Woot =) < 1376057632 749201 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you, archive < 1376057632 749400 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? < 1376057634 585681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1376057636 785731 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.SaaO >rqn&t1VVnv& UoSL]cM~, Bl>P6 < 1376057646 888903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's special cased < 1376057650 346133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1376057652 4301 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​vyc4"lc|.ZϝE~8PHi "THbBFUMXæo]0bL[s*)}v\@nrt"+kݫ6mANŷ+HP.2,v(/qv?d}o\zP.`1%N$L'1hvSk935x d>U < 1376057656 374445 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1376057657 953848 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's widespread disagreement on which year it was published in, though < 1376057658 214986 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks =) < 1376057681 492735 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«â-ÛvyÚ õÈcø». truer words were never spoken. < 1376057684 200393 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wisdom < 1376057685 299606 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/wisdom: No such file or directory < 1376057691 174227 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/? < 1376057692 491884 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "$topic1" = "ngevd" \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; \ else echo "$1? ¯\ < 1376057726 778235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it _used_ to be an actual link to /dev/urandom, but that broke things horribly whenever people tried to make a search or digest of the directory) < 1376057770 496219 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really wonder why I can't see special chars on Freenode =/ < 1376057778 400593 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/rnooodl < 1376057779 991583 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -pe 's/nooodl/"n@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge' < 1376057797 711611 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I see are those neat question marks in diamonds < 1376057809 483171 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yet I'm configured as UTF-8 < 1376057811 991690 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait < 1376057815 815661 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe my bouncer isn't < 1376057819 317512 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would explain it < 1376057820 412109 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1376057821 371685 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :<_< < 1376057990 68773 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun for (int i=0;i<99;i++) printf("\xe2\x96%c", 133+sin(i/4)*4); < 1376057991 233400 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lightly smacks Roujo with a standards compliant mako shark to compel him to unicodify his whole system as a respectable person is wont to do. < 1376057993 275962 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/gccrun.kUXWeFD2/command.c: In function ‘main’: \ /tmp/gccrun.kUXWeFD2/command.c:19: error: ‘for’ loop initial declarations are only allowed in C99 mode \ /tmp/gccrun.kUXWeFD2/command.c:19: note: use option -std=c99 or -std=gnu99 to compile your code \ /tmp/gccrun.kUXWeFD2/command.c:19: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of b < 1376058009 365042 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun int i; for (i=0;i<99;i++) printf("\xe2\x96%c", 133+sin(i/4.)*4); < 1376058012 469078 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/gccrun.Jc3ohCYR/command.c: In function ‘main’: \ /tmp/gccrun.Jc3ohCYR/command.c:19: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function ‘sin’ \ /tmp/ccyVF3XB.o: In function `main': \ command.c:(.text+0x2e): undefined reference to `sin' \ collect2: ld returned 1 exit status < 1376058025 691859 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright, I think I fixed it < 1376058029 252480 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts a link to the archive.org page in the citation itself, so that other people can actually find a copy < 1376058084 571581 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of archives, I should keep a log somewhere for every object and technique I use to bop people on the head. < 1376058092 33882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: gőőd főr yőu < 1376058111 823187 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT WORKED! =D < 1376058117 310970 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1376058117 886489 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1376058119 50619 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Ss#KDa{a}[VqkI \ &56}r.f$p=;iWJ2.LLB݄|MSVCC:pKYNkqDˆ7;ZÞ@߅HHS&a&.)i.*O7-?صgaT+ҡ/w>I5@S{ < 1376058122 651039 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mieux ^^ < 1376058189 960773 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :日本語は何がどうでしょうか? < 1376058259 137523 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, gah; it's the wrong article :( < 1376058321 958899 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily the right one seems to be there too < 1376058328 309491 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376058397 130051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1376058403 856554 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1376058415 776960 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi dœsthiswork. < 1376058429 411989 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1376058435 620500 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-84EVER < 1376058459 523032 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. I should hi people when they are actually connected. < 1376058473 340982 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. time to clean my desk and move... < 1376058474 502269 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1376058484 211725 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: That ("one copy" "in Illinois") is probably why everyone just copies the citation. < 1376058484 464202 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376058518 15863 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well, yeah, and some people were copying the wrong citation < 1376058542 152963 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, like, the book that everyone was copying was a different one, the University of Birmingham has a copy < 1376058564 656235 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it hadn't been used for almost 30 years so it took them a while to find it < 1376058600 105556 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually, what happened is that I went to the library, they checked their records and said that they had a copy but they had to retrieve it from storage and asked me to come back the next day) < 1376058646 38599 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376058688 452241 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it seems that the University of Illinois actually lent their copy to archive.org to digitize < 1376058697 348930 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably because they were fed up with everyone asking them for it < 1376058706 166942 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(their copy of the original source, that is) < 1376058791 642141 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... this PDF crashes Acrobat, should I be scared? < 1376058800 752634 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you scroll too quickly, that is < 1376058806 953769 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evince can handle it but it takes like 20 seconds to render each page < 1376058941 339417 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also half the pages are useless because it's only printed on one side of each page and archive decided to digitize the back of each page as well as the front < 1376058964 539958 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that makes sense, it's probably faster than employing someone to check the back of each page to ensure there's nothing important written there < 1376058993 309364 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: copy of what? < 1376059028 601120 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: basically there are two relevant books; the first one, everyone has been copying other people's citations of, and nobody bothers to check that it actually contains the information that's being cited (it doesn't) < 1376059045 717253 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the second, which I suspect contains the information, there's only one copy in existence, at the university of illinois < 1376059049 927672 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but luckily archive.org digitized it < 1376059053 538927 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm reading it now < 1376059057 746450 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to determine whether it actually does < 1376059068 978098 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376059111 755912 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1376059118 478266 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it appears to have been typewritten rather than typeset, with anything the typewriter couldn't handle drawn in by hand < 1376059123 453241 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that explains why there's only one copy < 1376059453 640839 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, this document doesn't define the Muller C-element /either/ :) < 1376059494 984175 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think, at least, it's hard to tell < 1376059540 967345 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there's actually a book by nearly the same name written by Muller himself < 1376059555 926173 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, this document is written by Muller himself < 1376059560 10673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1376059576 125516 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I got the right book with Miller because the publisher and publication year matched too < 1376059609 682860 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, that was "A Theory of Asynchronous Circuits I" I checked < 1376059618 961742 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :II is incorrectly labeled as I on archive.org, maybe it's in that one < 1376059703 436971 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... II has thinner paper, you can see through the back of the page < 1376059710 311881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :prediction: some time in the next century a flawed proof of the inconsistency of zfc will be announced, and no one will be able to disprove it because many of the theorems used are supported by chains of erroneous citations that no one can untangle. < 1376059733 450600 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, it's in II < 1376059738 83936 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :page 28 < 1376059749 45532 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, that only took a day or so to track down, not bad going :) < 1376059753 525134 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=D < 1376059810 829985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: now you go and fix it on wikipedia in such a way that misguided people won't revert it to one of the wrong books hth < 1376059835 159183 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :We give a positive answer to a long-standing conjecture first posed by Johansen[7]. < 1376059876 836043 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wikipedia's citing a conference paper which probably (but does not definitely) incorporate a copy of the technical report < 1376059892 143405 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but unlinked < 1376059898 686263 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably go link it to the archive.org page, really < 1376059922 553832 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: i don't recall posing any conjectures fwiw but it's been a long time < 1376059980 276594 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there's still time! < 1376060073 535463 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :[7] Ø. Johansen, "prediction:", public communication, a long time. < 1376060117 824667 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the conjecture? < 1376060125 579729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: that's not a _mathematical_ conjecture hth < 1376060144 351769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: see ^ < 1376060164 883848 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the theory about the inconsistency of zfc < 1376060189 450937 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog prediction:.*zfc < 1376060194 147621 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a mythematical one < 1376060220 278717 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-05-28.txt:04:16:11: <Bike> prediction: nobody actually uses ZFC besides set theorists anyway < 1376060233 874259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good prediction < 1376060239 975345 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks like a conjecture < 1376060257 813156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but _still_ not a mathematical one hth < 1376060435 96856 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, "Digitized by the Internet Archive in 2013" < 1376060461 345159 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it would have been basically impossible for anyone to get a copy before then, except maybe if they lived in Illinois < 1376061165 834561 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The year of the Muller C-element has come < 1376061191 516889 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1376061244 731770 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the funny thing is, the very original source just defines what it is, and doesn't really discuss it at all < 1376061259 340236 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it doesn't name it, it uses "C" for arbitrary circuits < 1376061271 73437 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so that one was called C in context, and the name appears to have stuck < 1376061816 17908 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376061872 854422 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good translated morning! < 1376061954 696861 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :上午 < 1376062007 712250 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzieさんお早う! < 1376062068 741007 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't speak the lingo, it was just a translated morning courtesy of Google Translate. < 1376062278 78708 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. < 1376062284 963099 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was a meh done in Finnish.) < 1376062307 931007 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pöh < 1376062328 43658 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1376062333 531904 :ais523__!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376062377 868940 :ais523__!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1376062384 232589 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should measure ais523_'s rate of underscorization throughout the day. < 1376062401 819121 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the nicks "ais523" and "ais523_" actually have different semantics < 1376062420 357697 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been known to nick from one to the other when I picked the wrong one by mistake or via collision < 1376062432 757869 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they have different collision alternatives as well < 1376062454 441287 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: currently ais523 has ais523_ and ais523__ as collision alternatives < 1376062458 885920 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ais523_ doesn't have collision alternatives < 1376062467 881674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me go fix that < 1376062497 237292 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend using something other than _ as the uncollision character < 1376062500 852591 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I fear complexities for the The Question. < 1376062502 648961 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now I have callforjudgement and scarf as my collision alternatives < 1376062504 239045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :scarf < 1376062510 910145 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are all aises approximately in the same place? < 1376062521 43141 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recommend using completely different nicks as collision alternatives < 1376062522 938239 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But whatever < 1376062528 141680 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you store all of the IRC logs in a SQL database then it should be easy enough to measure all of these things, especially if you add some extensions such as mathematical extensions, blob parsing extensions, graphical extensions to plot the graph of when you did it < 1376062535 928454 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ais523_ is me when I'm using a hotdesking or public computer, via a wired connection < 1376062539 220703 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess the scarves they wear are background statistically insignificant noise) < 1376062539 515013 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas ais523 is my laptop < 1376062550 859460 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently the laptop is next to a work computer < 1376062568 615757 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that your only computer or is there a third class of nick for other computers you own < 1376062598 661255 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the only computer that a) I own, b) is currently working, and c) is capable of going online < 1376062599 279191 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or for when you're using a public computer via a wireless connection < 1376062609 904133 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one's never happened < 1376062626 727749 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I don't have a contingency plan for that yet < 1376062709 399443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION imagines scarf desperately failing to log in at a wireless public computer because he cannot decide which nick to use < 1376062772 556364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh chocolate covered peanuts are dangerous < 1376062786 257295 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nut allergy? < 1376062796 475697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :must... resist... ...soon... < 1376062802 731255 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you considered incrementing the ais number? < 1376062815 560134 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: now that's just heretical talk < 1376062819 496317 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm curious to see what ais524 and ais996873 are like. < 1376062849 249752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't go that direction, ais527 is actually a serial killer < 1376062852 637602 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: I've nicked to ais524 before now as a joke in response to "ais523++" < 1376062857 454278 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't do that reliably or consistently < 1376062910 351413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarf: no allergy but also no willpower hth < 1376062918 116120 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monotone < 1376062920 39277 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376062920 361142 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               | < 1376062920 619327 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             o/`¯º < 1376062922 924198 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck monotone < 1376062932 107568 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. my bot is dead. < 1376062940 919073 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376062941 171605 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye cuttlefish < 1376062945 51935 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck monotone < 1376062945 352024 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone definition: a succession of syllables, words, or sentences in one unvaried key or pitch. < 1376062959 741035 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck scarf < 1376062960 171179 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A scarf, also known as a muffler, or neck-wrap is a piece of fabric worn around the neck, or near the head or around the waist for warmth, cleanliness, fashion or for religious reasons. < 1376063341 445599 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh... has MDN somehow broken itself? https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Array has the same list of methods (concat, join, slice, toSource, toString, indexOf, lastIndexOf) for all the subsections of the "Array instances" section (Properties, Mutator methods, Accessor methods, ...) < 1376063366 149240 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376063475 379277 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Array/prototype still works. < 1376063481 392368 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone on hackage has read xkcd... there's a thyme package out there. < 1376063505 314085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: but does it change every hour? < 1376063516 192710 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: Seems to. Perhaps they've somehow broken the template inclusion mechanism, that's what is being used to include those sections in the top "Array" page. < 1376063555 678463 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: don't think so. I think it's a reference to the old mussolini pun. < 1376063569 254735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :already found it < 1376063865 953063 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, not necessarily, "time" and "thyme" are homophones, so it's a pretty obvious joke < 1376063918 894368 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376064024 737778 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: but, but... I am young and naïve... can't I dream of xkcd spreading all over the intarwebs? < 1376064055 183532 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure that would be a good thing? < 1376064074 299119 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a manic grin < 1376064457 464388 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, is it really the case that only the Gecko-derived browsers support any of the fancy language-level things (like let, comprehensions, generators, whatnot) of JavaScript 1.7/1.8? Welp. The more you know, I guess. < 1376064539 998993 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1376064569 544941 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376064905 240518 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you can use those fancy things in a program meant as the browser extension, or in a XUL application, or maybe in other programs that use the same JavaScript engine, such as Synchronet < 1376064963 468583 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat xkcd > eth0 < 1376065006 163180 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you can just cat things to network adapters like that < 1376065056 998443 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can cat to a file called "eth0" just fine, though. < 1376065075 163662 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376065083 496733 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you shouldn't :) < 1376065139 43581 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, you can't even cat to any file in /sys/class/net/eth0/ and get those bytes sent as a raw Ethernet frame. < 1376065299 120327 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1376065420 683669 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, I was browsing the wiki and noticed that P′′ is both in Category:Implemented (as it should be) and Category:Unimplemented. Must be some MediaWiki glitch. < 1376065433 211953 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome valer < 1376065436 189005 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​03valer: Welcome05 t12o the intern13atio05nal 07hub05 for esoteric progra02m13ming 12lan06g02uage d05e02s13i13gn and06 deployment!03 For more information, 07c05h04eck ou05t 12our wiki: htt10p://08esolangs04.org/wiki/Main11_Pa07ge. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric 11on irc.d09al.net.) < 1376065455 320924 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it doesn't show in unimplemented to me < 1376065459 380633 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the cached version is broken... < 1376065475 667433 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: how about now, if you refresh? < 1376065492 942408 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, it isn't there any more for me either. < 1376065504 972582 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this has hapepned before recently, maybe something broke < 1376065821 880755 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: Just because you can't do something, doesn't mean that you shouldn't =P < 1376065836 962872 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LEGAL but not POSSIBE < 1376065839 684948 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*POSSIBLE < 1376065887 580049 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has that ever happened in Agora? =P < 1376065915 658012 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: all sorts of things are legal but impossible in Agora < 1376065928 306991 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much any ISIDTID, for instance < 1376065960 36970 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, saying you do something is both LEGAL and POSSIBLE < 1376065969 143431 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing it is legal too < 1376065971 896389 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just impossible < 1376065974 664663 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(usually) < 1376066011 278948 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. So if there was some mechanism that made it possible for you to do it, you wouldn't be breaking any rules by doing so < 1376066012 834977 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got it < 1376066013 560355 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=) < 1376066027 131607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1376067006 553006 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376067751 575438 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you answer my question from yesterday? < 1376067802 242241 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: only by accident, because I don't know what it is < 1376068124 860772 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK I will repeat < 1376068180 960796 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which people in here have told about what dream they have? I want to know some things such as how commonly things resembling different kinds of logic (or no kinds of logic) applies, and a few others. A few times it has happened when in the dream there was something where linear logic seemed to apply, even though it isn't a case where that would be the case in real life. < 1376068189 686005 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who (and how many) of you have done this? < 1376068317 944033 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened re: linear logic? < 1376068390 528604 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never had a dream that appeared to follow the rules of linear logic < 1376068462 857587 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've told about some dream I've had some time, but I know nothing about linear logic < 1376068464 588675 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things that can ordinary be used together cannot, things that ordinarily don't, instead must, etc, it has a slight resemblence to some of the operators in linear logic, if interpreted in the right way < 1376068481 37418 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Do you know what dream you've had (in general)? < 1376068504 90438 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you have a rather different intuition of linear logic than me < 1376068513 209394 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, some. < 1376068545 140545 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Well, there are different things it can apply to. (I think this is case with most systems of logic; there are different applications of them than only what is intended/common.) < 1376068552 977121 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you give some sort of example < 1376068573 115416 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: the main rule of linear logic is that variables cannot be copied or destroyed < 1376068576 978344 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to use them all exactly once < 1376068599 623180 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarf: Yes, that is mainly the rule how it works, and then there are multiplicative and additive operators, and so on < 1376068618 947734 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376068625 507831 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although if you have exclamation/question marks then you can make it allow to use more than once < 1376068634 441784 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to explain all of linear logic in one sentence doesn't work very well < 1376068639 609284 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so explaining the basic idea is normally better < 1376068741 843828 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were a few examples in my dreams, although one case was a dream where I was thinking of two things at once, one of which could not interact with the rest of my dream, despite being a part of it that isn't being discarded... < 1376068840 398142 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you ever dream that you are someone else? Do you ever dream that you are of a different species? Do you ever dream that you can fly? Do you ever dream in which you have two thoughts at once, one of which is presumably outside of the dream but is actually still only part of the dream? < 1376068848 694767 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or even three levels) < 1376068863 204942 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I dream that I have a dream < 1376068871 412904 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gets quite confusing when I dream that I wake up < 1376068921 179271 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was once stuck in a dream loop, kept waking up and everything was normal for a couple of minutes and then... a dinosaur. < 1376068927 332431 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: It happens to me, but it doesn't confuse me so much really < 1376068936 659381 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: That happen to me too, but without the dinosaur < 1376068936 898327 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've forgotten completely what the password is to my RPi. < 1376068949 800037 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: can you boot up in single-user mode to fix it? < 1376068953 218255 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does it not have a serial terminal? < 1376068959 29555 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it was over, i took a 1.5 hour long walk and kept checking that there is nothing suspicious under the snow < 1376068975 671321 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I find that when I'm awake it's easy to verify that I'm awake < 1376068982 774032 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but when I'm actually asleep I don't think to check < 1376068989 162261 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarf: It has a HDMI port and supports USB keyboards, but I don't really know if the bootloader can take any arguments. < 1376068990 158870 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought so too, until i had this dream < 1376069002 247946 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376069002 758275 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I find is there is no point in checking this < 1376069012 314896 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarf: On the other hand, I can just stick its "hard disk" (a SD card) to a memory card reader and change the password. < 1376069026 831243 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: right < 1376069034 526732 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once it was the dream that I knew was the dream but I told people in the dream and they didn't believe me. < 1376069038 509342 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarf: (Though I can't really shut it down cleanly without being able to login. It doesn't have a soft power switch. Or a hard one.) < 1376069052 791286 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But usually I do not have such a belief) < 1376069059 414485 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you could just crash it, I guess < 1376069068 145541 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm going to have to. < 1376069068 383249 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :via cutting the power < 1376069125 675648 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realize something, that in both cases when I was of a different species, it was the species of the character of a game I have played and made up the character (two different games, though, one D&D and one a MUD). Other thing that might be remarkable is that many people say they often dream they can fly, but I could only fly when I was the correct species. < 1376069167 374696 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are other things too other people report about their dreams, many of which I find I have it differently, although some things are the same in my dreams, but there are many differences. < 1376069180 968767 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :These things seems like remarkable to me. < 1376069315 93764 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Later after I woke up, the flying dream also reminded me of something IKEA once did, where they wrote about measuring the space in a room in cubic units rather than square units. < 1376069352 756997 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"passwd: Cannot determine your user name." < 1376069354 579317 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1376069363 15970 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I gave it a user name argument.) < 1376069404 50326 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As in, "passwd -R /mounted/thing user". Maybe that's not right.) < 1376069650 530638 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it does a chroot to /mounted/thing and only after that tries to dynamically load some libnss stuff, which of course won't work out. I suppose I need to use some lower-level thing that just edits the shadow file. < 1376069652 313236 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How different are your dreams from mine? < 1376069817 495150 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a dream that I was hanging out with three Homestuck cosplayers < 1376069826 610687 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A John, a Dave, and a Jade < 1376069833 39799 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I was good friends with the Dave < 1376069853 108141 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then the John cosplayer decided he was going to kill me and the Dave cosplayer and we had to run away < 1376069883 56336 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what did Jade do? < 1376069888 506317 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stand around < 1376069920 467741 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think she was friends with the John cosplayer but staying neutral on the whole killing us thing < 1376069929 496695 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: This is me, signing off. Probably rebooting or something. < 1376070078 915179 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376070100 88324 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think anyone has ever try to kill me in my dreams, although it has happened (at least) a few times where people were trying to hurt me really badly or inject me with alcoholic drugs or something; I wake up just in time and almost fall off of the bed. < 1376070112 459215 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376070258 870660 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :More PulseAudio experiences: unplugged the USB device (going to try it out in the Pi) and it went to 100% CPU usage. Then pacmd unload-module'd the USB stick sink/source modules, and it crashed. < 1376070269 691926 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376070272 670353 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pulseaudio[3719]: [pulseaudio] proplist.c: Assertion 'p' failed at pulse/proplist.c:71, function pa_proplist_free(). Aborting." < 1376070279 509536 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess "not p". < 1376070284 90805 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't get injected with alcoholic drugs < 1376070382 677240 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Heh =P < 1376070502 177367 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: That is why I wake up exactly in time and almost fall off of the bed from the sudden movement < 1376070524 526443 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So even in the dream I don't be injected with alcoholic drugs. < 1376070686 318620 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are alcoholic drugs? < 1376070692 444597 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :drugs that aren't alcohol, prepared in alcohol solution? < 1376070710 877140 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had some of those < 1376070766 351226 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what they are. < 1376070768 894432 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :alcoholic drug list: < 1376070770 807087 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :* alcohol < 1376070781 707564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alcohol is a p. good solvent < 1376070795 349376 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is just the word I used to describe what happened in my dream < 1376070797 394223 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there also narcotic booze? < 1376071582 851934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that is fair, sometimes dreams don't make sense and they need words that don't make sense either < 1376071617 818821 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :borrowchecker ate my balls < 1376071894 998763 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376072446 725362 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1376072452 235861 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: random question: will you go to the otakuthon? < 1376072460 316677 :ais523_!93bcc208@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.194.8 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1376072497 285161 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I was supposed to >_> < 1376072514 612912 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was supposed to go with a friend of mine < 1376072519 187711 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But multiple things happened: < 1376072532 855076 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our costume projects was too ambitious < 1376072544 496214 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :We never planned our backup project < 1376072570 679419 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :She stopped talking to be a couple of days ago < 1376072582 933606 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/to be/to me/g < 1376072622 110778 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. :( < 1376072631 354318 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It happens < 1376072633 56252 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes < 1376072643 16246 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have a pretty weird relatioship anyway < 1376072646 808334 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :relationship* < 1376072655 800461 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives a virtual etopen plushie to Roujo to make him feel better < 1376072680 335182 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked because I'm one of the volunteers going there. a friend and I will be presenting mahjong, shōgi and xiangqi. < 1376072701 690938 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone got the ICFP question yet? < 1376072715 173436 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: btw, if you're ever interested in playing mahjong, we're looking for new members for our club. < 1376072740 725295 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I play mahjong sometimes < 1376072755 872248 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know how to play mahjong and shogi and xiangqi. < 1376072781 25615 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shogi is fun! =D < 1376072806 731385 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shōgi is hard. I suck at it :p < 1376072834 88810 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: Do you mean what the current contest is about? < 1376072840 349413 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376072864 112548 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://icfpc2013.cloudapp.net/ < 1376072871 20602 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1376072873 346691 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just the page < 1376072876 627513 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll get the post >_> < 1376072917 423101 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm < 1376072921 541025 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know any of Fukumoto's manga? < 1376072925 162425 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't seem to be able to find a permalink < 1376072940 801146 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just ctrl+f "Let the games begin!" < 1376072948 609467 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played shogi once. < 1376072968 17865 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: fukumoto nobuyuki? < 1376072975 57649 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yes. < 1376073021 732222 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1376073021 953871 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well, my friends always try to evangelize akagi onto my poor person, but so far I havn't yet succumbed to the temptation. < 1376073026 165791 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 'guess the function' < 1376073030 956140 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1376073034 11424 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't you guys already implement a solution for this < 1376073039 969626 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol < 1376073046 662678 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have all of the Akagi up to 24. < 1376073078 318006 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :well thats fine im no longer interested in ICFP < 1376073081 375636 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the link < 1376073261 747584 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I have a few French version hikaru no go laying about in my library. I think there are also 2 doraemons in there. and I have the Japanese version of yokohama kaidashi kikō. < 1376073266 189080 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376073290 45752 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, nice < 1376073319 786962 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last volume of YKK cost me 50 CAD to get it from amazon.co.jp. filthy scammers. < 1376073474 293567 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376073492 533972 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I have only Akagi. < 1376073543 761905 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376073607 643885 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376073619 760701 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I had the omnibus version of all the azumanga daioh, but my brother long-term-borrowed it. < 1376073679 361803 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking of getting nichijō and legend of koizumi next. < 1376073720 572723 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, there is also some hardcore science-fiction to be had first. < 1376073729 719737 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard that a good method to notice if you are dreaming is to look for numbers. When dreaming, numbers tend to change constantly and be vague. I have once succeeded this. I looked at a clock or something and when the numbers changed, I knew I was dreaming. < 1376073762 464190 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only I could get something as precise as a vague number when I dream... < 1376073772 617453 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: looking at your hands tends to be pretty good in my experience < 1376073778 859428 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as you can handle seeing your hands all messed up < 1376073788 803019 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1376073879 722570 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't work to me, the logic is different when you are sleeping, I just either know or I don't know, and either way it seems to me there is no point in checking even if there is a way to do so. < 1376074053 141806 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Several times when I've been close to waking up and noticed (or half-noticed) that I'm dreaming, I've exploited the fact and started to fly around. < 1376074228 584008 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of people say they fly in their dreams but like I have said I never had except once recently when I was mi-go. I don't know why a lot of people do and I don't. Even though in cases that I do notice I am dreaming, I don't fly. Although once I told someone in the dream that it is the dream, and they didn't believe me! < 1376074300 190893 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think its pretty rare to get to fly in a dream < 1376074312 176241 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it feels great to fly, whether in a dream or not -so people talk about it a lot < 1376074361 582970 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: Some people I have talked to say they do very commonly, and they are still human in those cases, they aren't being a different species or something. I think it is just that different people have different dreams. < 1376074442 978632 :ap3x!~apex@94-225-204-7.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376074469 277311 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome ap3x < 1376074471 994904 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07ap3x: Welco11me02 to13 the international hub f06o03r05 es14oteric pr05o03gramming language design and de09ployme12nt! F02o04r more i06nformation, check out our 05wiki: ht07tp://e10solan02gs.org/05w07ik12i/Main_Page. (F10or 10the other kind of esoteric03a05, try #esoteric14 on irc.dal11.09ne13t.)07 < 1376074603 465167 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've also had a rewind feature in dreams. When something really bad happens, I've been able to go back to an earlier point and continue there. < 1376074612 909188 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :useful! < 1376074659 730919 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: btw, do you know a guy called kryft? < 1376074669 394619 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't say I do. < 1376074674 383229 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: Interesting. I don't think I have, though. < 1376074702 842775 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way to win ICFP is to choose programs whose counter-examples tell you themost about how to improve them < 1376074710 813502 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how to do that though < 1376074728 632207 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: you use the same server, is why I asked. < 1376074734 882243 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, too many Finns < 1376074782 284849 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. The server choice is automatic, probably the closest geographically. I'm in Finland, yes. < 1376074832 145162 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, an interesting datapoint! can I ask him the The Question? pretty please? < 1376074860 24321 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: I mean, kapsi.fi. < 1376074893 233703 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: Have you ever had dreams where you think of two or more things at once, one of which seems at a higher (as in not dreaming) level but actually it is still a dream, where you cannot use those thoughts together for some reason even though they are basically simultaneous? < 1376074897 273857 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh, that's a very popular non-profit shell provider here. < 1376074934 304310 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376074950 882557 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: And do you ever dream in which you are a different species? < 1376074970 584652 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: he's the kind of guy who goes into fizzie's office and tells him speech recognition sucks and to op me. < 1376075120 1420 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: I would like to know what features you have/haven't had in your dream, to see how to compare between different people (including myself) < 1376075127 768796 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, that's quite a specific concept, I'd have to look for it while sleeping. And about the species, I think I've been some other animal/creature but can't remember now. I've been a non-human ghost/spirit entity at least. < 1376075149 627410 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once read that someone has had a dream tat ended in credits. < 1376075169 778949 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had black and white dreams a few times. < 1376075191 378102 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone here whip up a quick'n'dirty poll to check our dream features? < 1376075261 893671 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: We would have to see how to do that and what kind of things to write in such a poll. It isn't quite that simple. < 1376075288 849461 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have had god-like powers at times in dreams. Once I was an evil spirit who took great joy in terrifying people. < 1376075310 556358 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I have had in black and white. At one time I thought you dream in black and white because the room is dark, but once the room was dark and my dream was still in colors, so that can't be in. < 1376075463 113046 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: Interesting; I was never had. Only two cases I was as a different species, was still physical, and in both cases a species of a character I made up in a game I have played (once D&D, once a MUD). I was never evil nor a spirit. < 1376075503 886157 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the one that I fly, for some reason, I lived in an apartment (although I do not actually live in an apartment in real life), together with my family and friends < 1376075550 549130 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I didn't live in a apartment in the game where the species is from, either) < 1376075678 855672 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had some very colorful and epic adventure dreams. They're fun but not that common. Manyt times my dreams have resembled a movie, but alas no end credits. < 1376075696 64672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://static.bbc.co.uk/programmeimages/608xn/images/p01dw05r.jpg image brought to you by the BBC < 1376075698 156844 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't had credits either but I have read that someone has. < 1376075708 480496 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is jealous of people who have real, structured, precise dreams < 1376075709 710888 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Bike: I think you would enjoy clicking this ^ < 1376075718 147789 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I especially like AREN'Y < 1376075726 569400 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's scots! < 1376075740 895431 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I almost have. < 1376075771 343142 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: thanks. I feel reassured to be similar to a normal person like you. < 1376075780 243046 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: is Adam Curtis scottish < 1376075804 55073 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376075806 90206 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think I am a normal person? I think not (but who really is a "normal" person?). < 1376075903 374223 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, considering the kind of people we attract on this fïne chännel, I guess you fit well with others. < 1376075930 983946 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: O, OK, that's what you mean. < 1376075937 134686 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and subnormality answered that normal question some time ago. < 1376076070 928129 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1376076318 435391 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps you know that I am strange because of my philosophies and religions, because I like to play monster character in Dungeons&Dragons game (and other game), because of various questions I write about, and because I do esolang stuff, and other things possibly < 1376076348 783310 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1376076366 259188 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and haha < 1376076370 186024 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are strange, therefore you are normal :p < 1376076415 47288 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, who is really a "normal" people??? < 1376076418 479987 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think most people around here are unusual in a good way < 1376076433 24664 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: Yes, I think so, too, I think that is a good thing < 1376076775 23071 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, a middle-endian 24-bit number. (As in, value 0x123456 is represented by the bytes 0x12 0x56 0x34.) < 1376076805 495194 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :middle-endian... just why... < 1376076880 615900 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :normal people suck < 1376077017 175727 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's probably some performance benefit in meddle-endianness in some screwed-up architecture. < 1376077083 105367 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember a thing where softfp on ARM was like, mixed endian? < 1376077108 492673 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, doubles were EFGH ABCD instead of little-endian (ABCDEFGH) or big-endian (HGFEDCBA) < 1376077124 531676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :buh < 1376077132 776391 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: whyyyyy < 1376077144 853158 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: buh? < 1376077155 77193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :buh < 1376077161 1823 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :buh! < 1376077182 297636 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your arch is faster with MIDDLE endian numbers you probably did something wrong < 1376077195 552099 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¡ɥnq < 1376077216 786708 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have read that OHRRPGCE archive files use middle endian for the file sizes (but not for other numbers). < 1376077220 939074 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mistakes were made" < 1376077239 536363 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck ohrrpgce < 1376077239 938447 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Official Hamster Republic Role Playing Game Creation Engine, abbreviated as OHRRPGCE or OHR, is an open-source, "All-in-one" game creation system. < 1376077299 167567 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't a very good system though there are many things I wanted to do which it lacks, which is why I will rewrite Uselessness RPG using other systems. < 1376077461 415697 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being good enough for hamster role play doesn't imply fitness for general games. < 1376077512 299863 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I decided to make the first one using Z-machine and without graphics (I am not very good at making the graphics), and I have on paper I am writing how I will decide to encode the stuff, what locations, what characters, ability scores, skills, etc. So far I have listed four characters and the old man doesn't yet have a name. < 1376077587 406884 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you and others can help me too. (And maybe the sequel might have graphics, and might be written in SQL or something else instead) < 1376077800 676127 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can write ideas/questions/complaints you have, if you have anything to write. < 1376077836 287374 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does your project have github or something? < 1376077839 27630 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have and idea/question/complaint to write: can you github the thing? < 1376077853 486227 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. I've been ninj-valer-aed. < 1376077861 634519 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1376077864 895287 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1376077899 212578 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it doesn't, at least not at this time. I don't know if I will put a git repository, but for now I am writing it on a paper anyways; I didn't put it into the computer yet. < 1376077950 787669 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION unleashes some random cetacean on valer. “that'll teach ya, or at least it'll beluga ya!” < 1376077954 458724 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376077971 796839 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ouch. < 1376077977 440390 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some day, we'll have git for paper. that will be a glorious, revision controled day. < 1376077997 775531 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably it will be all in one file anyways, unless I have music. < 1376078056 717219 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of music in files, do we have an easily editable and revisionable text format out there? < 1376078079 67448 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean music files or text files? < 1376078085 876409 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1376078099 504727 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you please be more specific? < 1376078100 762958 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's lilypond, but I don't count it as easy. < 1376078105 583146 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ < 1376078121 638998 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something with a simple syntax that can be compiled to sheet music. < 1376078123 342065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is Music Macro Language, and that is what I use for music. < 1376078128 76582 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooooh! < 1376078172 247094 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MML isn't designed for sheet music though, but, I would hope that something simpler than Lilypond can be made up that would use MML and compile into .DVI format. < 1376078206 836780 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but the quality of the printout also has to be improved like Lilypond is, rather than using a bad quality printout.) < 1376078235 657046 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. MML reminds me of my old BASIC days... < 1376078362 383158 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :BASIC uses a simple kind of MML, but there is more sophisticated ones with multi-track and other things; there is ppMCK for compiling MML into .NSF, and I have even added some things into ppMCK such as tail recursion and the * and ? commands (I find * and ? very useful for writing chords, although they are useful for other things too) < 1376078438 788687 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376078527 180156 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's XML representations of MIDI and such. < 1376078534 912124 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376078630 47052 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: hello. my name is boily. you mentioned XML. prepare to be cetaceaned. < 1376078664 877225 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I accidentally XML. Is this bad? < 1376078752 794866 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376078966 690653 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes < 1376078972 295370 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.12235 < 1376079418 708234 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :computers will never play music as good as people. fact. < 1376079445 102225 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a feeling that a computer would disagree. < 1376079473 102840 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :computers will never disagree with people as good as people. < 1376079500 866230 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps 'as well' if you prefer < 1376079504 391549 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just took two advils. don't give me a new headache please. < 1376079520 730133 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :music is hard. think of the fluid dynamics < 1376079542 828394 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION collapses in a twitching lump on the floor < 1376079547 478367 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1376079553 171475 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip in peace < 1376080032 139136 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fyi, the floored lump that I am ain't dead yet. < 1376080169 130475 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things that I hate the most: < 1376080169 373457 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Lists < 1376080169 373606 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Irony < 1376080169 373653 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :* People flooding IRC with pointless jokes < 1376080236 962794 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only way that joke could be funnier is if it didn't exist < 1376080352 811206 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agreed. < 1376080620 933573 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don't really know whyyyyy, but it was a case where the field on-disk has three bytes, but after loading, in-memory, the first byte (the high one) is overwritten, and the two low ones are used as a segment value. < 1376080668 219295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1376080672 676083 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also pretty impressive A/V sync from mplayer + pulseaudio native TCP + RPi + USB sound card in the same hub as the Ethernet interface; I wonder if it does some latency estimation mplayer can use.) < 1376081523 699133 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION kicks github in the unicorn < 1376081651 979118 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 my impression of my dreams is that they're a window into something profoundly lacking in logical structure. < 1376081652 216174 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1376081702 1728 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, well, to me there is sometimes still some kind of logic, but not necessarily the kind of logic which would seem correct for the situation. < 1376081730 330860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: there are fragments of _meaning_ in the dreams, but there's no way of composing two fragments and concluding anything. < 1376081779 8352 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dream fragments do not form a category. < 1376081811 772004 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Perhaps to you it is. To me it is different; it tends to be like a strange kind of logic more often than it is no logic at all, although it is sometimes the logic that corresponds to real life too. < 1376081881 472045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: maybe you have found something others haven't discovered, in which case you should try and deduce the rules for the rest of us. < 1376081907 395066 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Even if it does, it doesn't necessarily mean it applies to you. < 1376081911 492527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively, the logic may get into your dreams from thinking a lot about logic in waking life... < 1376082010 641536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, i don't really expect dreams to be comparable from person to person except on a deep emotional/symbolic level. < 1376082128 246671 :Canaimero-ccd!~la_mami@190.202.85.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376082147 178381 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It happens even before I think about logic, actually < 1376082160 283192 :Canaimero-ccd!~la_mami@190.202.85.2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola < 1376082160 759296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ Canaimero-ccd ? welcome.es < 1376082162 642374 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canaimero-ccd: ¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.) < 1376082165 442410 :Canaimero-ccd!~la_mami@190.202.85.2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :soy modelo < 1376082188 722692 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but maybe there is backward causality; it sometimes seems like that) < 1376082203 306373 :Canaimero-ccd!~la_mami@190.202.85.2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :como estan < 1376082204 345527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if that message should say something about conversation here being generally in english < 1376082221 688315 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes maybe it should help < 1376082227 213579 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canaimero-ccd: no hablo español < 1376082235 32609 :Canaimero-ccd!~la_mami@190.202.85.2 PART :#esoteric < 1376082255 655272 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... I didn't have time to `rienvenido him... < 1376082266 345948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: someone made that? < 1376082273 940466 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido < 1376082275 74082 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bienvenido: not found < 1376082279 161994 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rienvenido < 1376082280 212115 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: rienvenido: not found < 1376082287 742115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok not < 1376082368 274811 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But I can give an example of the logic, for example: I was a different species and found a place that, I had the thought (independently) that it was a place I (as a human, though) had been to before. However, this wasn't true (it was also the dream), but in addition, it was independent and could not be combined with another thought in the dream. It reminds me of how in some kinds of logic you cannot always use things together < 1376082449 574943 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/os!/os! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español./' wisdom/welcome.es < 1376082452 732836 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376082459 803314 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.es < 1376082461 662907 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.) < 1376082471 932348 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.fr < 1376082473 581897 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome.fr? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376082473 952399 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                 | < 1376082474 152271 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               º¯`\o < 1376082491 387370 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :first thing Monday morning. < 1376082505 23001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think the large number of spanish people is because the channel name starts with es < 1376082511 952475 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1376082516 934491 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. < 1376082519 672335 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least that's my theory. < 1376082538 82844 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to go eat. goodnight all! < 1376082543 413117 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-66-95.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376082546 193166 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Smile at the incoming whale! < 1376082557 691181 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376082578 936871 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do sometimes not notice things until after the dream, for example it reminded me of IKEA's measuring space in a room using cubic measurements. < 1376082725 583273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/welcome* < 1376082727 346186 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/welcome \ wisdom/welcome.bork \ wisdom/welcome.es < 1376082791 510253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/welcome < 1376082792 752717 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl -w \ if (defined($_=shift)) { s/ *$//; s/ +/ @ /g; exec "bin/@", $_ . " ? welcome"; } else { exec "bin/?", "welcome"; } < 1376082880 612278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed 's/welcome/welcome.es/' bin/welcome > bin/bienvenido; chmod +x bin/bienvenido < 1376082884 181828 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376082890 162979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido < 1376082892 93022 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1376082898 474054 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1376082912 640562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :og < 1376082915 74837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*oh < 1376082927 153586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed 's/welcome/welcome.es/g' bin/welcome > bin/bienvenido; chmod +x bin/bienvenido < 1376082931 344982 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376082934 952961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido < 1376082936 902880 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.) < 1376082986 88739 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about a non-deterministic self-modifying esolang that simulates dreaming :P < 1376083014 107059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek another finn! < 1376083031 458216 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :valer: Good; write in list of ideas on the wiki. < 1376083038 593403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE valer < 1376083041 24188 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :VaLeR: wElCoMe tO ThE InTeRnAtIoNaL HuB FoR EsOtErIc pRoGrAmMiNg lAnGuAgE DeSiGn aNd dEpLoYmEnT! fOr mOrE InFoRmAtIoN, cHeCk oUt oUr wIkI: hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE. (FoR ThE OtHeR KiNd oF EsOtErIcA, tRy #EsOtErIc oN IrC.DaL.NeT.) < 1376083055 394214 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hI < 1376083357 705064 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That URL doesn't work, in case you wondered. < 1376083395 333694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :complain to elliott, not that it has helped before < 1376083443 346140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is stuck between his overengineering and his laziness :P < 1376083493 197576 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sentence describes me :/ < 1376083506 413276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he wants to make it work for all wiki pages, _and_ change the contents as well. this is for `WELCOME but i assume `WeLcOmE would be a small step after that. < 1376083509 393666 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1376083534 63467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's ok i have things stuck in the same place. < 1376083628 184078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like both of my unimplemented esolangs... < 1376083690 603674 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://24.media.tumblr.com/3b6bc5d878e7bddabd373c7781a4a3d1/tumblr_mr3nydWdgH1r7sn1go1_1280.jpg gotta save this for when people ask what it's like where i live < 1376083717 107522 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :mystery crater country? < 1376083758 658544 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to perfectly explicable crater country < 1376083918 720123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: we note that in the future the darién gap has got worse rather than better < 1376084004 484769 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, after Oxfam was taken over by the meerkat-people they launched a development initiative. It's pretty easy for the nuclear people to drive up to visit the human reserve. < 1376084019 254644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1376084049 793494 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The gorillas have a big wall to keep out human migrants, though. Say humans are too lazy to work as anything but slaves. < 1376084061 175022 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Major international hominid rights debate there < 1376084140 316395 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think they should just make /wIkI/MaIn_pAgE to redirect. < 1376084199 273334 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love how git add -p lets you edit individual diff hunks < 1376084203 804480 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i am basically supernaturally good at this < 1376084379 135453 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've ever tried the command line version of that ... git gui is very handy for it < 1376084491 395134 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, but what are the nuclear people like < 1376084511 265985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly they are sentient uranium hth < 1376084519 977975 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I see you have an enviably lush head of hair. < 1376084536 677010 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, that's not me. i'm a bike, not a human. < 1376084543 846117 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, they might be cheelas < 1376084545 302010 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1376084580 861374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: hm plausible < 1376084773 965016 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :god damn Crystal Castles is so good < 1376084785 907703 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could be seeing Alice Glass perform at a club tonight if I had my shit even a little together to buy tickets etc < 1376084788 986102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1376084828 509216 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm suffering from perennial Fringe Guilt < 1376084970 465787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that < 1376085027 238609 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when only realised the fringe was happening during the fireworks show at the end < 1376086441 669589 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey someone give me a function where finding its fixed point(s) is impossible computably < 1376086533 358232 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BB(x)? < 1376086624 5781 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, some turing encoding thing < 1376086716 9196 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but i'm too lazy to think of one. < 1376086721 809025 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i'm pretty sure you can prove BB(x) > x < 1376086753 871884 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, of course you can. BB(x) grows faster than any computable function, and identity is computable < 1376086833 798486 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so BB(x) has no fixed point I guess? < 1376086841 966661 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1376086845 302319 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that technically satisfies Bike's requirement < 1376086856 748485 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of things don't have fixed points though, right? < 1376086858 870953 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(x) = x+1 < 1376086882 471070 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1376086885 148628 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok how about "finding the fixed points or lack thereof is not computable", smartass :p < 1376086900 435992 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some turing encoding thing < 1376086915 868254 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stfu!!! < 1376086924 98320 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(x) = (is the collatz conjecture true ? x : x+1) < 1376086928 148483 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:3 < 1376086935 231875 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i guess that actually works pretty well < 1376086954 769648 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i'm kind of curious about the complexity really, like computing a polynomial is pretty easy but computing its fixed points is rootfinding which is less easy < 1376086985 838870 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean "is there a computable function for which cmoputing fixed points is uncomputable"? < 1376087006 739163 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, though it doesn't have to be computable itself, i guess, i only want it for an example < 1376087008 579953 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I don't understand Bike's question < 1376087029 71114 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since like if the codomain is the integers then any given fixed point is an integer < 1376087032 88621 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and hence computable) < 1376087057 328472 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and any other way of "finding" it is just a longwinded way to compute a constant < 1376087111 823120 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and like Fiora's function, finding a fixed point of it is trivial iff the Collatz conjecture is true, the problem there is more in knowing what the function is at all, so I kind of don't understand how it satisfies Bike's requirements < 1376087116 640754 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but uh I don't know any of this stuff really < 1376087133 305641 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither do I , I don't reallyh get it < 1376087270 590176 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that important < 1376087531 681887 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-66-95.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376087581 951063 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376088266 710375 :valer!valer@kapsi.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1376088687 753973 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376088864 734315 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does GitHub have any simpler webpage without all of the fancy stuff on it? < 1376088894 524521 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: To accomplish what? < 1376088904 981618 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376088922 351945 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: To make it faster. < 1376088957 772048 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think some SVN repositories have that, where you just get a directory listing with absolutely nothing else. < 1376089140 967969 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376089499 938907 :ap3x!~apex@94-225-204-7.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Computer says no < 1376089596 515808 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376090163 304039 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any way to enter a low-bandwidth mode or something like that? < 1376090577 956505 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376091173 497815 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376091197 382530 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376091533 228929 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376091570 426436 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376092106 268169 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376092579 18059 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376094175 34351 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376094322 962235 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376094474 861198 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1376095322 923393 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know that most Z-machine interpreters are defective? I have tried them and all of them, including Infocom's own interpreters, are defective. < 1376095872 53216 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How so? < 1376095879 49664 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376095912 427346 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376097070 419135 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1376097261 786287 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know everything about it, but testing it, they all seem defective, although my own interpreter "Aimfiz" seems to be the most accurate one. < 1376097413 607543 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems other interpreters try to cache things they shouldn't cache, make incorrect assumptions, and do other wrong things. Infocom's interpreter seems to be second most accurate, as far as I can tell. < 1376097685 588319 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if Aimfiz has defects that others don't < 1376097704 639158 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: It is possible. < 1376097714 506466 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :See if there are some that I missed; if so then I will fix it. < 1376097761 337838 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have enough knowledge of either Z-machines or Aimfix < 1376097830 320259 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately the documentation for the Z-machine is also defective; I had to look at both Infocom's and Graham's documentation, as well as Infocom's interpreters, and their story files, to figure out the correct way; a few things that have never been used or implemented are still unknown, however. < 1376097907 869399 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sure sounds like a fascinating definition of "correct" and "defective" < 1376097933 536611 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which i mean, i don't think you're going to get those coherently out of weird docs and implementations. < 1376098513 554170 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does correct mean? < 1376098725 90214 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I don't really know for sure, so I study everything and make the best guess, and it turns out it works; I am highly confident that I did it correctly. < 1376099071 418031 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However what I am somewhat less confident of is that my interpreter lacks defects. < 1376099343 51257 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1376099344 572194 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1376099804 919280 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing that is unknown is the MIDI format for Z-machine. All of Infocom's MIDI files play a single note, and their interpreters all implement MIDI in a klugy way, so I don't know what is correct. But I have looked at them and partially figured it out. < 1376100102 660858 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They seem to be a series of ordinary MIDI commands, although 0xFF seems to be some kind of delay; I don't know what units it is in, though. < 1376100160 962494 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376100165 771642 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1376100201 51600 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376100961 864278 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376101167 201044 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is fix totally computable? < 1376101474 444856 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1376101478 187563 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it spits out _|_ a lot though. < 1376101529 514324 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (**2) < 1376101533 692306 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1376101540 942709 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like not that. < 1376101613 12712 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's not going to find numeric fixpoints. < 1376101621 913996 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you use a really weird number type or something I guess < 1376101643 118609 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i meant fix "the function" not fix "the thing in haskell" i guess. < 1376101649 842254 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that is fix the function < 1376101653 312295 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_|_**2 = _|_ < 1376101661 963375 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a legitimate fixed point from the perspective of haskell's denotational semantics < 1376101678 473237 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about something that returns all fixed points, then. < 1376101716 471962 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo equalizers < 1376101721 942398 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wassat < 1376101730 642797 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's turing complete < 1376101732 181717 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [undefined, 1, 2] !! 1 -- derp < 1376101733 353532 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1376101736 464141 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :k cool. < 1376101852 316617 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess "all" is a lot harder semantically to describe < 1376101903 124844 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix itself is not computable. < 1376101910 541250 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\n -> whether a program terminates at the nth step < 1376101915 103050 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the limit of a diagram that looks like •⇉• hth < 1376101946 492659 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: like with 1 = true? < 1376101955 384415 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess n if it terminates, some other value otherwise < 1376101971 593560 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :any algorithm that runs in finite time has the possibility of returning the wrong value < 1376101981 822754 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is the number of steps or _|_) < 1376102037 493672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix is computable... < 1376102061 485046 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, except running for an infinite amount of time counts as a return value, right? < 1376102063 563350 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :defining _|_ as wrong as a result is as wrong as defining 123 as wrong as a result :/ < 1376102066 623782 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1376102070 493449 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :_|_ is "first-class" < 1376102083 924946 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :f (fix f) = fix f is always obeyed < 1376102087 432961 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even when (fix f) is _|_ < 1376102095 644019 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is not a particularly useful definition of computability < 1376102102 3241 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :every function is computable < 1376102104 803304 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah fix f = undefined is boring. < 1376102115 924833 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's not it. whatever < 1376102127 312565 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix = fix < 1376102143 594948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sigh... < 1376102167 116646 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what? < 1376102168 113306 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix \x -> 1 < 1376102168 845790 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : <hint>:1:5: parse error on input `\' < 1376102173 434385 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (\x -> 1) < 1376102174 386148 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1376102204 195313 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it not true that allowing _|_ as a "return value", every function is computable? < 1376102225 673041 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\x -> 1) undefined -- right right < 1376102226 722921 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1376102258 734852 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: it's not < 1376102287 913965 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix gives the least ("least" according to definedness, imagine the lattice in your head, etc.) fixed-point of any function < 1376102290 184059 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: did you write a Z-machine fuzzer? < 1376102301 13084 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what it's supposed to do, and does < 1376102310 370136 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no "gaps" where it gives _|_ but should be giving something else < 1376102326 864954 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i realized that < 1376102360 473576 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i guess the other thing isn't true either... I think it might be true for any boolean function < 1376102403 793387 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean even if you allow _|_ as a return value generally, I can still insist that you compute a function which doesn't return _|_ ever < 1376102430 211438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you said is true if you consider _|_ to be just as good as any particular answer, which makes it useless < 1376102442 834284 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: sure < 1376102455 684497 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but fix doesn't do that, it does exactly what it's supposed to :P < 1376102466 65272 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that doesn't mean that every function is computable < 1376102482 238946 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you made fix arbitrarily give _|_ on one function (ignoring that this breaks RT and everything) it'd be a different function < 1376102524 235193 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i realize i was unclear, but i'm not really concerned with haskell here. < 1376102569 533761 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i claim that every function with a finite number of possible return values is computable < 1376102594 197394 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :halting oracle? < 1376102619 776286 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, except _|_ isn't *that* first-class < 1376102623 6273 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignore me < 1376102629 620658 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: but I'm not arguing with you any more!! < 1376102633 583807 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1376102639 248108 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :new and exciting arguments < 1376102667 237043 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, you can represent a halting oracle as a function that returns a finite number of possible return values and is computable < 1376102673 165654 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :namely, return _|_ if it doesn't halt < 1376102714 94475 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376102715 4525 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, halts = (flip seq) True? < 1376102741 120829 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip :-( < 1376102753 512458 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :halts x = x `seq` True -- so much simpler < 1376102761 10540 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or halts = (`seq` True) < 1376102769 334072 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376102770 221043 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, like, anything, man < 1376102819 883891 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god damn it, i try to write pointlessly one time < 1376102877 303234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo flip is the devil < 1376102884 205865 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time < 1376102912 732023 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"don't worry, everything you write is pointless" < 1376102940 164720 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow rude < 1376102946 261711 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it was in quotes < 1376102952 447871 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wow rude" < 1376102956 820761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :better < 1376103281 637064 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So: is there a total function that, given the encoding of a partial function, returns a recursive set of its fixed points? Or just r.e.? < 1376103284 611273 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's that elliott. < 1376103289 175127 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :made me break out the naturals. fuck 'em. < 1376103298 985296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow rude < 1376103319 465448 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i even wrote "r.e.". reducing me to kleene dude. reducing me to kleene. < 1376103328 124885 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the domain and codomain of the function :P < 1376103341 354554 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :N >: < 1376103345 366824 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo computability is overrated < 1376103365 544828 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's a nickel kid, buy yourself a hypercomputer < 1376103407 386527 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :costs 1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + ... dollars < 1376103407 626233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much do nickel kids go for < 1376103411 557844 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like a tin soldier < 1376103747 47692 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe fix fix fucks it up. < 1376103863 814933 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it could be the empty set indicator, or something. < 1376103906 175928 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, no, that wouldn't work. it has to include itself. < 1376103976 585480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Gnoyt < 1376104027 944631 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix f = let r = f undefined in seq r r < 1376104162 935409 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl fix f = let r = f undefined in seq r r < 1376104165 946984 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix = id (fix ((ap seq id .) . (. (const . ($ undefined))))) < 1376104166 147319 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue. < 1376104173 596376 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elegant. < 1376104520 61204 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess returning the empty set is fine... < 1376105704 17853 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1376105820 527065 :Guest50012!~sacre@50-81-222-220.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1376106156 662001 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: NihilistDandy < 1376106213 722405 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1376106267 603122 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a list here of Dungeons&Dragons spells I wanted to make up. It is "Light of Gxxyuxihuvxi", "Curse of Gxxyuxihuvxi", "Blessing of Gxxyuxihuvxi", "Eye of Gxxyuxihuvxi", "Mouths of Gxxyuxihuvxi", "Tentacles of Gxxyuxihuvxi", "Random Contintency", "Quantum Entanglement", and "Quantum Teleportation". < 1376106362 860238 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have some ideas related to this? < 1376106607 923903 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376106931 333623 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376107241 861346 :Guest50012!~sacre@50-81-222-220.client.mchsi.com QUIT :Quit: Guest50012 < 1376107512 407328 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quantum Gxxyuxihuvxi < 1376107661 771982 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"has no fixed points" is a nontrivial property, so I think the set of partial functions with no fixed points isn't recursive? < 1376107793 512511 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: What is that supposed to be? Another aspect of that deity? (These spells aren't supposed to be necessarily all related; they are just a bunch of different ideas, some of which are related.) < 1376108295 487891 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by rice. < 1376108301 833476 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a hell of a theorem now that i actually look at it. < 1376108400 987655 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rice's theorem <3 < 1376108425 98279 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo, dang. < 1376108518 880951 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the simplicity is great. it's not even like "okay well your condition on programs has to have this and that and the other" < 1376108524 207929 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just "hi. you can't decide anything" < 1376108532 125825 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can tell it's simple because i can understand it < 1376108554 991533 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a generalisation of the halting problem < 1376108564 727786 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i noticed. very cool. < 1376108603 836262 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it exactly a generalization of the halting problem? since "defined on x" is obviously nontrivial < 1376108622 878176 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you believe in two kinds of free will? My philosophy is two kinds of free will. < 1376108624 538432 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, right. < 1376108641 81901 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the proof is even a generalisation of the halting problem proof < 1376108667 460313 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and you can easily use the halting problem proof to prove it right okay. < 1376108797 248536 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376109118 831162 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :These proofs are great, they're basically programming < 1376109139 837569 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I can see Rice's theorem now on Wikipedia < 1376109163 803607 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[something ignorant about coq] < 1376109474 224055 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The atmosphere at the time must have been something like a hacker meeting < 1376109510 130839 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Now Kurt is going to talk about how we can break Hilbert's program, no matter how well it is patched" < 1376109571 744107 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Of course, you can avoid this attack if you keep your system very simple" < 1376109614 217450 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A proof that a program would be vulnerable no matter how much it was patched would be funny. < 1376109824 278941 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Continuous research since the genesis of the field has produced increasing experimental evidence for this proposition. < 1376109857 662746 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that it would be funny? < 1376109940 190620 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :On that note, why do hacker talks always sound like comedy acts < 1376109946 548078 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Experimental evidence is not perfect; only mathematics is perfect. < 1376110157 124398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this laptop fits in my trouser pockets which is rad < 1376110165 194407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a 900 MHz single core processor which is less rad < 1376110176 485103 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lapside < 1376110181 988135 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: do you know coq < 1376110239 124244 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha not even slightly < 1376110256 95892 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :calculus of qonstructions is all i know < 1376110308 348998 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you wanna learn < 1376110318 901517 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i should learn a CAS first < 1376110342 93345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/sf/ is super fun < 1376110353 923024 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus my "'«interests'»" are more on the end of continous stuff < 1376110370 431302 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a PL theory text in the form of an addictive puzzle game < 1376110371 433256 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, free? well i can't turn that down < 1376110391 45148 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1376110394 984660 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also nice quotation marks < 1376110410 301002 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta keep balanced < 1376110426 662611 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't tho < 1376110453 386298 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if my quotation mark is "any permutation of other quotation marks" < 1376110486 813905 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear cpdt is better than sf for learning coq < 1376110492 303493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1376110500 525003 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least mnoqy said something like that to me because he doesn't like the messy proofs in sf < 1376110506 323275 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is cpdt an addictive puzzle game < 1376110525 78407 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"in-progress textbook" yeah whatever < 1376110527 258288 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :will "written by a guy permabanned from #haskell" substitute < 1376110536 157015 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what isn't in-progress these days < 1376110554 165359 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well like, at least the hott book looks pretty. < 1376110557 483563 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some things are important. < 1376110571 300873 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376110573 97720 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i can use coq on random shit like the properties of linear recurrences mod a constant, right < 1376110583 842445 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1376110590 902937 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also arent all coq proofs messy < 1376110598 744597 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on account of the tactics language being a crime againsst humanity < 1376110613 986842 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whos permabanned from #haskell? smerdyakov? < 1376110618 504403 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1376110624 482224 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and well, have you seen the proofs in CPDT < 1376110626 753780 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really not feeling y'all's reviews of this book < 1376110629 999670 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they all look like "crush." < 1376110632 564557 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or language < 1376110637 266831 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thingie < 1376110736 907276 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's criminal about tactics < 1376110878 65009 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made a shirt for lexande that says "Beweis: klar. \qed" except the \qed is the proper LaTeX box < 1376110886 486341 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the coq version would be "Proof. crush... Qed." < 1376110897 705415 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're a bunch of non-contextual commands arranged in an inscrutable sequence to manipulate hidden state in a manner only obvious to the original writer < 1376110901 825887 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, just like programming < 1376111008 418138 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ ls sf/ \\ $ rmdir sf/ \\ rmdir: failed to remove 'sf/': Directory not empty <-- linux is great < 1376111024 927304 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :alias rmdir='rm -r' < 1376111147 330965 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"On the Unusual Effectiveness of Logic in Computer Science" oh, this sounds cute < 1376111166 631359 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of hard to imagine it being as true as what it's named after, though < 1376111235 507767 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't like coq, isar has logically structured proof syntax eg. "proof - have ?thesis by metis (...) auto qed" < 1376111258 568289 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls -a sf/ < 1376111286 784480 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i did already. just thought the way that works out is kinda funny. < 1376111313 646757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :allegedly the dot => hidden file thing was accidental < 1376111320 385542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, they wanted to hide . and .. and were lazy < 1376111320 768983 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i've heard < 1376111381 614669 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :alias ls='ls -A' < 1376111423 292363 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alias ls=sl < 1376111557 280850 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well actually, I alias it to l < 1376111578 478591 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :truly what problems can't be solved with enough alias commands < 1376111703 23746 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if you can make an alias for 'command' < 1376111726 819033 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently you can < 1376111728 142079 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alias = < 1376111772 538878 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alias A=A < 1376112063 177523 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not have completely idea of what the Dungeons&Dragons spells I named should do; I only have partially idea. < 1376112137 319309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the names < 1376112243 559565 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote them above, but I can repeat. < 1376112245 373092 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is "Light of Gxxyuxihuvxi", "Curse of Gxxyuxihuvxi", "Blessing of Gxxyuxihuvxi", "Eye of Gxxyuxihuvxi", "Mouths of Gxxyuxihuvxi", "Tentacles of Gxxyuxihuvxi", "Random Contintency", "Quantum Entanglement", and "Quantum Teleportation". < 1376112310 438243 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are some good names for spells < 1376112315 616659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope you think of good spells for them < 1376112336 824425 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is Gxxyuxihuvxi? < 1376112350 660137 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some deity. < 1376112472 803455 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The patron deity of my character. < 1376112506 212443 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking "Quantum Teleportation" would be something like quantum teleportation so you can just tell the signal to make the teleport, somehow < 1376112620 667642 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also intended "Random Contingency" to be a bit like Contengency spell, you can make other spell contingent to a trigger, but using events you don't have control over and having random effects, but with some control over the casting of the spell, somehow; I am not sure how to make it, though. < 1376113116 431125 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376113493 800531 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376113688 30754 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 241 seconds < 1376113762 258583 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376114363 747511 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Where are all your #esoteric graphs? < 1376114402 134518 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or anyone else, if you have a link?) < 1376115604 763581 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://zem.fi/ircvis/esoteric/ < 1376115620 857395 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Good timing, just woke up.) < 1376115966 426146 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. bike, kmc, and elliott mention me a lot (surppriiise) < 1376115983 834424 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, maybe that's the other way around < 1376115987 270507 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that I mention them a lot. < 1376115989 655949 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm bad at charts < 1376116227 97650 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376116230 7486 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it's both... < 1376116298 349985 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1376116314 303262 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376116333 297982 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um. hi < 1376116345 174210 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1376116399 582698 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1376116413 201049 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1376116465 555795 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mention chart is hard to read. < 1376116545 484412 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a graph version (threshod the matrix with some value that leaves K ones, treat as an adjacency matrix of a digraph, render with graphviz) of it, but it wasn't so nice. < 1376116699 133396 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376116876 794323 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: journey!! < 1376117622 378611 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1376117695 321808 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hm, do new episodes show up on netflix straight away, or how does one typically watch them < 1376117793 501479 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of what < 1376117826 424067 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have netflix < 1376118127 539247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :of breaking bad < 1376118346 356082 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376118547 39448 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`achewoodlist < 1376118550 729856 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: achewoodlist: not found < 1376118552 682852 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(thanks kmc) < 1376120484 990205 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1376120514 28770 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376122132 532923 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376122510 339562 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376122528 429428 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-20-118-11.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376123679 14733 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1376124662 788596 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1376124971 848391 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376125505 943787 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376125947 90756 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1376127514 231622 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376127758 850359 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-160-224.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376127789 58710 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1376127792 88984 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1376127852 871383 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376128020 660370 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376128046 915977 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376128074 565342 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376128097 778397 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376128485 481683 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hjoj < 1376128528 63338 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-132-213.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376128910 845154 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.154.139 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376128982 644350 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.154.139 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376129036 636970 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.154.139 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1376129040 648378 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.154.139 NICK :nooodl < 1376133326 445278 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.117.127 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376133336 23501 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.154.139 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1376134367 960102 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376138430 421711 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :“A common way of setting a register to zero is XOR EAX,EAX or SUB EBX,EBX. The Core2 and Nehalem processors recognize that certain instructions are independent of the prior value of the register if the source and destination registers are the same.” < 1376138448 777159 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So this is what happens to your billion transistors < 1376138568 331218 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376138665 438006 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that kind of feature's been around for a looong while? like since early OOE things if I remember right < 1376138685 26743 :ka7la!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1376138705 407611 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376139057 180531 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376139058 73018 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376141975 48971 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.117.127 NICK :nooodl < 1376142496 48343 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376143828 674193 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.117.127 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376143995 706590 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, calloc doesn't actually zero out pages from mmap. Linux creates the pages on-demand. So calloc gives you memory that doesn't exist. < 1376144008 546776 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Benchmarking with -O3 is fun < 1376144070 270852 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.117.127 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376144217 820152 :ka7la!~katla@unaffiliated/katla NICK :katla < 1376144318 841854 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/mmap/mmap\/sbrk/ < 1376144820 197056 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1376145716 501011 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376146203 73261 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376146216 556754 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.117.127 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376146436 202603 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376148009 447756 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1376148147 138341 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376148784 787538 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376148814 70366 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376149468 532559 :ap3x!~apex@94-225-204-7.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376149564 873410 :ap3x!~apex@94-225-204-7.access.telenet.be PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1376149807 405149 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1376149901 395051 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376150220 200970 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1376152007 73153 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, X seems to have leaked a lot of memory ... went from ~100MB to 677MB after disabling swap < 1376152117 334941 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and why does nothing seem to display the amount of swap space used by a process?) < 1376154200 211848 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376154309 962418 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :When the zetas fill the skies, will our leaders tell us why? | Хммм, тхис стуфф реаллы сеемс то ворк | 22nd IOCCC is open: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | jsvine is doing an esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q/viewform | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1376154320 484371 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The text I just added to the topic is, of course, in English. < 1376154647 892013 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376154870 349548 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376155595 390061 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1376155949 893400 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anybody have an idea about how to ssh into a machine where creating a process doesn't work because of a low default ulimit? < 1376155986 644504 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an sshd running, I have other ssh processes there < 1376156058 273608 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I dunno. My only ideas are "kill stuff" and "reboot it". < 1376156086 141588 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could kill stuff but I don't want to < 1376156154 422345 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also have fun with people by setting their login shells to false < 1376156154 675570 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I couldn't reboot it even if I wanted to because I don't have root < 1376156196 458497 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could raise the ulimit if I got in but I guess what I'd need to do here is remotely raise the ulimit of the sshd process < 1376156209 980932 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that doesn't seem particularly possible < 1376156220 612999 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask the server's owner to do something? < 1376156254 662729 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt the admins are interested in a little request like this on a weekend evening < 1376156266 50978 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the default ulimit? < 1376156266 303890 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's a machine on one of the clusters at work) < 1376156272 465182 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ulimit -u 1024 < 1376156311 199987 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why can't you start a shell with that. < 1376156325 411493 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I'm running a thing that starts up more threads than that < 1376156969 82838 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376157075 192313 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had ulimit-process-etc-issues when running that tournament that one time, but I don't recall if I had any terribly clever solutions. < 1376157163 79649 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376157170 961257 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write a modern kernel < 1376157174 975232 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did end up using a some really silly thing to get the process count down, but I didn't quite have a can't-login issue. < 1376157271 112966 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376157455 476046 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, using 16G of swap in a user program causes X to segfault < 1376157603 629834 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting... do you know why? < 1376157608 377006 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sillier than RLIMIT_MPROC, fizzie? < 1376157614 712260 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: X sucks < 1376157714 252566 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, it could be the VBoxVideo driver, which also sucks < 1376157820 581621 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess vboxvideo_drv.so is not really prepared to handle thrashing. < 1376158008 270146 :BlueShark!BlueShark@unaffiliated/blueshark PART #esoteric :"Bye." < 1376158216 13742 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1376159229 881532 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a pirate's favorite posix system call < 1376159500 574409 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the answer a very good/bad pun? < 1376159855 303710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1376159909 918265 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1376160279 615611 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it sendfile? < 1376160365 254441 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :atoll < 1376160395 416016 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :carg < 1376160411 787516 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a trick question because posix doesn't actually specify which things are system calls or library functions (or even macros???) < 1376160437 353107 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just about to ask "hmm, does posix even have system calls?" < 1376160456 636397 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fork(3p) at least mentions system calls, though only in the rationale < 1376160467 743516 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they C APIs? < 1376160500 22279 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc < 1376160502 665452 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, is that the joke < 1376160504 636612 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this joke is the worst < 1376160512 535625 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not just the worst < 1376160515 439293 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the most worst < 1376160522 694452 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :morst < 1376160530 165010 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I'm laughing < 1376160532 131396 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I wish I wasn't < 1376160901 329356 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1376161116 963701 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1376162247 707310 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: There was a (low) hard limit forced by some PAM scheme, it's not like you could do much about that. < 1376162323 934149 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: IIRC, the silly thing was just that the soft limit (used by sshd) was a bit lower than the hard limit, so I had some form of ssh-reverse-tunnel-and-netcat thingie to start my tasks in a shell with the limit raised up to the hard one. < 1376162370 877940 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Java creates quite a few threads when running; the limit was something very low.) < 1376162497 187125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1376163182 931896 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you folks happen to know/have the specs on ST3's (or ProTracker, I think it's compatible) vibrato effect? I mean, more than "vibrato with speed of x and depth of y"; in particular, what are the units of x/y. (AIUI, it's a direct adjustment to the "period" value, I guess at every tick? I guess I could try having a look at some existing module players.) < 1376163306 798896 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or is it really just an adjustment of [-y, y] directly?) < 1376163598 380752 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ST3.DOC doesn't seem to say, but I guess you knew that since that's quoted from there. < 1376163630 280603 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And TECH.DOC seems to have only file format stuff. < 1376163813 669214 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :PT.HELP doesn't say either. < 1376163844 354539 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's very confusing. < 1376163893 819799 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?title=Protracker_Module#4xy seems to suggest it's at most +y (directly) to the period, and xmp's source seems to concur. < 1376163926 709943 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also that the speed is given so that on each tick, the vibrato position is incremented by x, and the full waveform is 64 ticks.) < 1376164153 289412 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Except that IT manual says "old effects" (S3M-style mode) updates vibrato only on non-row ticks.) < 1376164219 131449 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376164247 421159 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also the TECH.DOC explanation of mixing, esp. the posttable[...] stuff, looks really confuzzling.) < 1376164248 34545 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376164573 747374 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376166687 163846 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i found the mölkky game! < 1376166998 227214 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :got mölk? < 1376168730 908475 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376168849 369143 :nortti_!nortti@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fe70:f3f JOIN :#esoteric < 1376168926 198476 :nortti_!nortti@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fe70:f3f PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know any lighter-for-network way of remote IRC than ssh that would still be more secure than telnet? < 1376169091 259252 :nortti_!nortti@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fe70:f3f PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is coming trough, right? < 1376169257 279412 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think people use mosh a lot for flaky connections. < 1376169276 489294 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know about lightness, but it's got all that prediction stuff and aliveness-staying stuff. < 1376169331 490151 :nortti_!nortti@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fe70:f3f PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work well over very bad latency? < 1376169342 980503 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not a mosh user. But it's what it's designed for. < 1376169377 695599 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :See http://mosh.mit.edu/ (if you can manage with that connection). < 1376169405 665421 :nortti_!nortti@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fe70:f3f PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, thanks < 1376169415 629000 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to roll your own authentication if you don't want to use ssh though. < 1376169425 251456 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it uses ssh for auth only by default.) < 1376169460 706951 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, heh: there's a typo in Skaven's 2nd_reality.s3m. (Pattern 13, channel 4 starts with a "DD7" which, I think, should really be a D07 -- based on the fact that channel 5 has a D07 slide, and ST3 doesn't define a meaning for DD7.) < 1376169522 351241 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376169656 980777 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376169760 803997 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the source code to 2nd reality has been released: https://github.com/mtuomi/SecondReality < 1376169765 241132 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently quite recently < 1376169848 24243 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1376169873 385910 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Yes, and there's an amusing "encryption"/obfuscation applied to the S3M files in that distribution. (Tried to use them first.) < 1376169876 23665 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376169933 31085 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376170024 160605 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Basically, each byte of the packed-pattern data has been xor'd with v, where v is what you get when you take the offset of that byte modulo 256, for each set bit take the binary value 101 shifted so that the rightmost 1 is at the set bit, and then xor all those values together. < 1376170107 645128 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, but why? < 1376170131 294437 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea. It could be just to discourage ripping off the songs from the demo, but it leaves all the S3M headers and such in place. < 1376170154 138238 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you still get an unplayable file, but it'd have been just as easy to apply the above to the entire file instead of just the pattern data. < 1376170205 467170 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably easier to do <whatever> to the whole file rather than change specific pieces of an S3M < 1376170211 57846 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1376170353 831704 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's quite a lot of Finnish in file names there. < 1376170382 451549 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say "less so in the comments", but I haven't really found any comments yet. < 1376170395 277063 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the DESIGN file is almost entirely finnish < 1376170426 476041 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grepping for /\* in *.c found a couple of comments in Finnish too. < 1376170453 13736 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to be the "script". < 1376170900 582221 :Luis1!~canaima@190.79.223.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376171081 602448 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like someone is making an android port of it < 1376171099 662960 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376171141 798321 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376171198 843865 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-132-213.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376171248 28469 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: A faithful one or a "HD remake" kind of thing? (Though for the latter the sources are I guess mostly irrelevant.) < 1376171313 806155 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :faithful afaict, something like letting the demo code write to a frame buffer then blitting that to the screen in the "did someone press escape yet?" function < 1376171419 723365 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds reasonably reasonable, except for all the inline asm. < 1376171433 147205 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And out-of-line, too.) < 1376171438 660018 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(according to the readme at https://github.com/Falken42/SecondReality) < 1376171521 122273 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could just plop in qemu's x86 emulator (or rewrite those bits in C, or make an offline x86-to-c translator to run on asm bits) < 1376171641 974011 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :From what I recall, Second Reality runs in dosbox up to some degree. (Don't know about ARM dosbox, though.) < 1376171659 514005 :Luis1!~canaima@190.79.223.211 PART :#esoteric < 1376171690 164227 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1376171718 304902 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376171870 144271 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a scrying hame that out of the three Android DosBox ports, two cost money (DosBox Turbo, AnDOSBox) and one is kinda dead and slow (aDosBox). < 1376171964 717625 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, wikipedia says that "The demo used its own memory manager which accessed the MMU directly in a way which is not compatible with modern operating systems" ... but the code I've seen is plain real-mode < 1376171993 819239 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"accessing the MMU" doesn't really make sense for x86 anyway < 1376172037 83705 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Well, it does talk some EMS, it might be what they mean. < 1376172071 205773 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's for the non-GUS music.) < 1376172137 254839 :nortti_!nortti@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fe70:f3f QUIT :Quit: got < 1376172204 316767 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376172288 187734 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though "accessing -- directly" is quite a stretch for just calling int 67h.) < 1376172338 675746 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In related news: fopen("*EMMXXXX0","rb"); -- kinda funny.) < 1376172673 488978 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and apparently (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanded_memory) early EMS implementations were in hardware (i.e. not-VM86-based), I had no idea < 1376172843 688581 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yes, software EMS is very much just a cheat. < 1376172906 186149 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular, AIUI, there's quite a lot of copying involved in emulating the bank switching. < 1376173006 637523 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, Internet claims that the EMM386 approach is done by paging. < 1376173025 487750 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly I'm remembering some older software EMS emulation. < 1376173535 775100 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"OS/2 has no native computer viruses, and is invulnerable by design to native viruses due to the fact that it runs everything in a vm (virtual machine) mode, and all program data and caches exist in that virtual machine." < 1376173593 207586 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone needs to tag that [citation needed]. < 1376173725 727117 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://virus.wikidot.com/arelocs "Arelocs also known as Aep is one of a few viruses for IBM's OS/2 operating system. It is considered "the first known virus that affects OS/2 files in the 'right way'" as it writes itself to the file and modifies the NewEXE header and other system areas." < 1376174071 930087 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally a virus that affects the 'right way' < 1376174309 829509 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1376175139 145013 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376175376 362090 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376175917 496204 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1376176924 781574 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@m832036d0.tmodns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376177937 983945 :AndChat-469104!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376178008 973787 :AndChat-469104!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1376178085 784962 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@m832036d0.tmodns.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1376178319 45448 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376178321 224276 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: [spurious input; ignoring] < 1376178340 464148 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1376179498 896809 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376180912 10973 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1376181083 322095 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, I wish my computer viruses affected my files in the 'right way'. < 1376181357 219421 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376181402 617346 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm. How about a programming language based entirely on indirection. < 1376181408 300533 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376181415 603127 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: NihilistDandy < 1376181561 151515 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1376181581 211778 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are CPUs still slow < 1376181582 585269 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah. < 1376181589 5772 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :They aren't. They're very fast. < 1376181594 510249 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're just trying to do too many calculations. < 1376181638 49734 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're optimized for like Ms-Excel < 1376181670 439278 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and other similar awful computation tasks that are just a jumble of load/stores and jumps < 1376181717 280379 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're in 2013, where's my 32xfloat wide SIMD < 1376181856 539830 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the GPUs are doing it already < 1376182046 160587 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, here's an idea. Co-lambda calculus. < 1376182071 997502 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be, like, uh... < 1376182154 11715 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376182343 796683 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376182510 19469 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about co-BCKW calculus. The combinators are defined like so: B x y z = x (y z); C x y z = x z y; K x = x y; W x y y = x y. < 1376182583 422283 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you evaluate K x, it creates a new variable and applies x to it. When you evaluate W x y z, it adds the equation y = z and gives you x y. < 1376182625 576409 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whenever there's an outstanding equation... I dunno. < 1376182701 232390 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno either. < 1376184118 40097 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376184327 696491 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376184826 706125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i heard mountain view is the place to be < 1376184830 128927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should move there < 1376184832 380592 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :false < 1376184843 834054 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it depends < 1376184846 688590 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are all non-strict haskell functions constant < 1376184852 45319 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also hello from dorm/prison cell < 1376184854 320734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like ``the city'' or no < 1376184876 186681 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no < 1376184889 827705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: (1:) is non-strict and non-constant < 1376184892 921847 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like going to the city < 1376184897 277544 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine that i'd enjoy living there but who knows < 1376184906 128764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh no where are you < 1376184939 694543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just is non-strict and non-constant < 1376184975 705195 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok yeah constructors that makes sense < 1376184990 976563 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix Just < 1376184991 887540 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: < 1376184992 87617 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : a0 = Data.Maybe.Maybe ... < 1376184993 927194 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm at school. < 1376185003 459945 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (1:) < 1376185004 411131 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,... < 1376185024 56806 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1:undefined < 1376185024 955443 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1*Exception: Prelude.undefined < 1376185053 398592 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so bottom isn't a fixed point of 1:. < 1376185089 354719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1376185100 123044 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the least-defined fixed point of (1:) is [1,1,1,... < 1376185111 446060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are non-strict non-constant functions that aren't equivalent to constructors, though < 1376185151 996174 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like? < 1376185165 631476 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t let f x = (let Just y = x in Just (y+1)) in f < 1376185166 315695 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Num a => Maybe a -> Maybe a < 1376185177 817034 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably a simpler example < 1376185194 637001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this maps Just x to Just (x+1), and Nothing to Just undefined < 1376185213 312368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and undefined also to Just undefined < 1376185213 676047 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f x = (let Just y = x in Just (y+1)) in f 4 < 1376185214 585792 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Show.Show a0) < 1376185214 786294 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `M1929720252.sh... < 1376185221 607850 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f x = (let Just y = x in Just (y+1)) in f Just 4 < 1376185222 657127 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `a2 -> t0' < 1376185222 857546 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type `Data... < 1376185225 46800 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f x = (let Just y = x in Just (y+1)) in f $ Just 4 < 1376185226 37994 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just 5 < 1376185240 306603 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f x = (let Just y = x in Just (y+1)) in f undefine < 1376185241 112287 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `undefine' < 1376185241 312473 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant `undefined' (imported from Prel... < 1376185241 513236 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f x = (let Just y = x in Just (y+1)) in f undefined < 1376185242 266255 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just *Exception: Prelude.undefined < 1376185247 86024 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird function imo < 1376185308 157530 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :throwing numbers into the mix is a little confusing because the strictness of (+) etc. depends on the particular Num instance < 1376185311 426100 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f x = (let Just y = x in Just (y+1)) in fix f < 1376185314 935888 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1376185362 642736 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f x = (let Just y = x in Just (y+1)) in f Nothing < 1376185363 557809 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just *Exception: <interactive>:3:16-25: Irrefutable pattern failed for patt... < 1376185452 292249 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you classify things like if' :: Bool -> a -> a -> a under "constant function" < 1376185464 156911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: when Blake and I lived in Manhattan he complained all the time about how terrible the city is, so I guess it's not surprising that he wants to live in MV and not SF < 1376185485 216582 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't understand what that is. < 1376185504 862610 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: if' True x y = x; if' False x y = y < 1376185513 849075 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the other a < 1376185519 210816 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. < 1376185520 236489 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's often given as an example of a kind of thing you can do with non-strictness. < 1376185520 437034 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. < 1376185523 959047 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck me. < 1376185528 496055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the return value hth < 1376185540 378984 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuuuugh just a sec < 1376185543 800556 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PART #esoteric :"shame" < 1376185560 883834 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :????? < 1376185578 937811 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1376185817 397495 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1376185818 178401 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::? < 1376185843 798507 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :¿:? < 1376185950 480129 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376186004 33276 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (\x -> "¿" ++ x ++ "?") ":" < 1376186004 987445 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [":","\191:?","\191\191:??","\191\191\191:???","\191\191\191\191:????","\19... < 1376186011 343417 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :¿:? < 1376186150 828754 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376186467 80712 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376186489 299018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text "\u2e18" < 1376186490 218406 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : <hint>:1:8: < 1376186490 418610 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : lexical error in string/character literal at character 'u' < 1376186568 891136 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\x hth < 1376186598 220044 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376187080 688162 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376188580 272553 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376188777 233269 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text $ unwords $ take 20 $ iterate (\x -> "¿" ++ x ++ "?") ":" < 1376188777 963236 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : : ¿:? ¿¿:?? ¿¿¿:??? ¿¿¿¿:???? ¿¿¿¿¿:????? ¿¿¿¿¿¿:?????... < 1376189076 880529 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿¿?¿?¿¿?¿?¿ < 1376189116 956406 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm. < 1376189255 317638 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmmmm. < 1376189304 59728 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an infinite sequence S of 1s and 0s such that for all finite sequences T of 1s and 0s, there exists a natural number N such that for all substrings S' of S of length at least N, T is a substring of S'? < 1376189318 182448 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, certainly not. < 1376189348 4992 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suppose that the sequence "1" appears, oh, in every substring of length at least 8. Then the sequence "00000000" doesn't occur at all. Qed. < 1376189366 666305 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, what Very Important thing was I doing... < 1376191127 929011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1376191240 954813 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an infinite sequence S of 1s and 0s that encodes every interesting theorem about infinite sequences of 1s and 0s < 1376191283 481974 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are uncountably many. < 1376191713 28787 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376191798 394814 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1376192028 716938 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1376192070 921698 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a pattern of binary or trinary digits that stays the same or mostly the same when multiplied by 3^n / 2^m < 1376192083 699114 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where n and m can be any integer) < 1376192092 583560 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(positive) < 1376192124 621953 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that evolves but in a relatively ordered way (like, game of life ordered) < 1376192337 602554 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, good question. < 1376192517 768511 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1376192628 153031 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like Fukumoto's mangas? < 1376192679 990296 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me? < 1376192706 493240 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't read any. < 1376192714 193798 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read it I think it is very good. < 1376192792 339290 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems that Akagi declares no-ten riichi a lot more than good mahjong players would ordinarily do. < 1376192822 839799 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also make a lot of extreme bluffs and tricks and that stuff. < 1376193395 872875 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376194146 444695 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376194655 915135 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376194915 735767 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1376195200 992127 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376195247 978646 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376195571 3270 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1376196878 861236 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376197166 298450 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there such a thing as a "free ring" (as in mathematical)? < 1376198170 469323 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an idea of what I want, but I don't know if that is what will be called a "free ring". < 1376198187 572001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it < 1376198226 117635 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, actually what I am wanting is probably what should be called a "free commutative ring". < 1376198251 56557 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376198320 500915 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there is a set "S" and the elements of this ring is multisets made up of elements of S (or lists if you omit "commutative"), and then it is a multiset of these multisets, is what I mean. < 1376198366 743810 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that correct? < 1376198418 996281 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, you must consider they can be negative too, if it is a ring rather than a semiring, I think) < 1376198475 391017 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now is that it? < 1376198559 714773 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, it is a signed multiset of these multisets? < 1376198977 952634 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376199782 423413 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1376199973 393893 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376200268 115774 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :help i think homestuck is broken < 1376200711 496591 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me too < 1376200731 988560 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, I'm feeling bored and stupid, what OS should I attempt to install on my laptop < 1376200790 75264 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be < 1376200790 749670 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depend what you require < 1376200813 243846 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to load fast and simple then install FreeDOS < 1376200817 581486 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I really don't require anything for my laptop, I barely use it < 1376200862 14784 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4784 wow ltu is good < 1376200876 416721 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(seriously why is this allowed though) < 1376200924 31908 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Well, if you don't have a computer with FreeDOS then maybe install that one. If you don't have a computer with Linux then maybe you should install Linux. < 1376200935 710104 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :»Turnstile (⊢) shouldn't scare you. It was invented long ago by Frege and is standard mathematical notation. It is not "mumbo-jumbo".« < 1376200962 597719 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I use Ubuntu pretty much exclusively. Some people say that's Linux < 1376200966 526521 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see that you are a strong advocate of Wikipedia including its policies of censorship, outlawry, and vilification of academics by anonymous Administrators. < 1376200969 177143 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeDOS does not interest me < 1376200988 293343 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ubuntu is one Linux distribution. < 1376201046 509418 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you can install ReactOS, if you are OK that it still isn't quite ready yet. < 1376201064 598660 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But from what I can tell, FreeDOS is loading and running much faster than the other one. < 1376201130 414237 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the computer and CRT is turned on at the same time it will already be loaded when the picture is visible. < 1376201139 562344 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :who uses a crt < 1376201159 404727 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am using that for comparison. < 1376201214 478442 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux and Windows takes long time to start. < 1376201234 477875 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1376201247 500982 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking about a different Linux < 1376201276 338322 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, install a different Linux distribution. (I don't know which one you want.) < 1376201301 186572 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence my query < 1376201310 924946 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about nix < 1376201401 331764 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I don't know much about nix < 1376201529 877242 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376201582 323351 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376201613 361606 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb: is that a problem < 1376201623 85435 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really < 1376201883 648733 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll give it a go :) < 1376201908 15686 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1376202939 162891 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, now I have an SD card that has the power to boot nixOS < 1376202978 641288 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck yeah nixos < 1376203047 819206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :please provide nixos trip report < 1376203148 752461 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Decided to go for the minimum install < 1376203150 774361 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Booting... < 1376203195 828839 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An error occured in stage 1 of the boot process < 1376203205 601147 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sux < 1376203207 444133 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i, too, would be interested in a nixos trip report < 1376203219 870342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you like my ongoing [rust trip report] < 1376203237 332682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how ongoing do you mean < 1376203242 877154 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it goes on < 1376203254 742532 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that anything like kmc's other trip reports? < 1376203264 251133 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it's a drugz joke I'm sorry < 1376203283 133170 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't given many trip reports here I think < 1376203292 291626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i think that was kmc's drugz joke < 1376203305 385656 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stole it :( < 1376203328 728903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, punch-line pincher < 1376203399 89454 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Decided to run Memtest and now my screen is full of dots < 1376203399 957693 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dongs < 1376203429 117115 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: can we have another trip report < 1376203436 131055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"for comparison" < 1376203447 857922 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you supposed to produce trip reports during or after < 1376203528 875018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :check erowid < 1376203543 550791 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they say write drunk, edit sober < 1376203609 722304 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it's a drugz that makes you more sober than usual < 1376203611 48982 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is kmc going to put his rust trip report on erowid < 1376203656 702714 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Update: my screen is still full of dots < 1376203666 711863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: should i bring the mölkky back with me < 1376203671 102655 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376203679 291745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd need something to put it in < 1376203685 608364 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zardoz has spoken < 1376203893 890149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why do mozilla server people get +q and +o simultaneously < 1376204000 488287 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376204188 783373 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still dots but they make a different noise < 1376204367 541961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tempest for eliza < 1376204675 407980 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still dots, same noise < 1376204805 889860 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :same as the original or as the different < 1376204856 388456 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The different one < 1376204861 599930 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The noise comes from the fan < 1376205506 809366 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje < 1376206022 1346 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376206359 826864 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The dots have stopped while I was having breakfast < 1376206361 814877 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The noise, too < 1376206433 936763 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1376206603 833675 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rungcc struct timespec t; clock_getres(CLOCK_REALTIME, &t); printf("%ld\n", t->tv_nsec); < 1376206609 730073 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: rungcc: not found < 1376206616 708664 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gccrun struct timespec t; clock_getres(CLOCK_REALTIME, &t); printf("%ld\n", t->tv_nsec); < 1376206620 205970 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/gccrun.wwnAiEwf/command.c: In function ‘main’: \ /tmp/gccrun.wwnAiEwf/command.c:20: error: ‘CLOCK_REALTIME’ undeclared (first use in this function) \ /tmp/gccrun.wwnAiEwf/command.c:20: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once \ /tmp/gccrun.wwnAiEwf/command.c:20: error: for each function it appears in.) \ /tmp/gccrun. < 1376206730 777530 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'#include <time.h>\n#include <stdio.h>\nmain(){struct timespec t; clock_getres(CLOCK_REALTIME, &t); printf("%ld\n", t->tv_nsec);}\n' > /tmp/tmp.c && gcc /tmp/tmp.c -o /tmp/tmp -std=gnu99 -lrt && /tmp/tmp < 1376206732 516566 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/tmp.c:3: warning: return type defaults to ‘int’ \ /tmp/tmp.c:3:68: warning: missing terminating " character \ /tmp/tmp.c: In function ‘main’: \ /tmp/tmp.c:3: error: missing terminating " character \ /tmp/tmp.c:4:1: warning: missing terminating " character \ /tmp/tmp.c:4: error: missing terminating " character \ /tmp/tmp.c:4: error: < 1376206761 620355 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'#include <time.h>\n#include <stdio.h>\nmain(){struct timespec t; clock_getres(CLOCK_REALTIME, &t); printf("%ld", t->tv_nsec);}\n' > /tmp/tmp.c && gcc /tmp/tmp.c -o /tmp/tmp -std=gnu99 -lrt && /tmp/tmp < 1376206763 462185 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/tmp.c:3: warning: return type defaults to ‘int’ \ /tmp/tmp.c: In function ‘main’: \ /tmp/tmp.c:3: error: invalid type argument of ‘->’ (have ‘struct timespec’) < 1376206787 714192 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i -e 's/->/./' /tmp/tmp.c && gcc /tmp/tmp.c -o /tmp/tmp -std=gnu99 -lrt && /tmp/tmp < 1376206789 373120 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: can't read /tmp/tmp.c: No such file or directory < 1376206798 894006 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1376206805 324441 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/tmp isn't preserved < 1376207013 7525 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'#include <time.h>\n#include <stdio.h>\nint main(){struct timespec t; clock_getres(CLOCK_REALTIME, &t); printf("%ld ns", t.tv_nsec);}\n' > /tmp/tmp.c && gcc /tmp/tmp.c -o /tmp/tmp -std=gnu99 -lrt && /tmp/tmp < 1376207015 77881 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 ns < 1376208643 242517 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376208855 410121 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: E.g. https://github.com/jeremywohl/nacl/blob/master/crypto_verify/16/ref/verify.c , it looks like. < 1376208974 10684 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376209231 31749 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1376210299 708041 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376210404 452849 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376214569 78204 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376215225 615194 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1376215486 323716 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1376215486 611424 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 1d 13h 10m 34s ago: my impression of my dreams is that they're a window into something profoundly lacking in logical structure. < 1376216505 66501 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376216864 569171 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376218401 149330 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376219758 103990 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1376219784 76208 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHhjwwSZ9MA < 1376220969 973287 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376221757 20816 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1376222693 384620 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376223744 685274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, weird. "lvs" shows a couple of logical volumes, but they don't show up in dmsetup ls. < 1376223818 124522 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their status is "NOT available". Hm. < 1376223855 393362 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess maybe I need to lvchange -ay them, or something. < 1376224341 353399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/RWDP that's probably not a good sign. < 1376224374 361325 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[198553.606614] quiet_error: 2563528 callbacks suppressed that neither. < 1376224404 346408 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm going through a pile of disks I found, to see if there's anything interesting before wiping them/throwing them away.) < 1376224511 113318 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376227289 809630 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Detect disks done, no any drive found." < 1376227424 760572 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376227586 967384 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try ddrescue if you're interested in whether those erroring directories have anything. < 1376227663 654641 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not that interested in this particular case. < 1376227710 70796 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Since they're (probably) just failed disks from earlier RAID setups I've kept for no particular reason.) < 1376229212 742650 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder why dd|nc over a gigabit-ethernet link is so slow. (Switched to using an old computer because the rest of the disks were IDE, and my USB dock only does SATA.) < 1376229275 891545 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the old box only has a 100BaseT network chip in it. Well, that explains it. < 1376229389 342525 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's doing 93.3 Mbps.) < 1376229554 649411 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should've done the snooping on the computer in question, locally, instead of doing this copying stuff; it's going to take like four hours to copy this 160G disk image over. < 1376229599 784187 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compress it? < 1376229676 895958 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could be worth the effort for the next partition. (Don't want to stop this current operation.) < 1376229694 914434 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if just dd | gzip | nc ... nc | gzip > file will work. < 1376229714 454416 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You probably want gzip -d on the other end; other than that it should. < 1376229744 356237 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make sure that gzip isn't too slow, though. < 1376229849 505580 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that fast-but-okay compression thing, lzo? < 1376229857 424230 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's one, yes. < 1376229865 655847 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The command-line program is called lzop. < 1376229883 863086 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will try that out, then. < 1376229927 455567 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd also try restarting the dd if it allowed a "skip=" argument in bytes instead of just as a multiple of ibs/bs. < 1376229956 669135 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : skip_bytes < 1376229958 347464 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : treat 'skip=N' as a byte count (iflag only) < 1376229979 73770 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been looking for that for *years*! Is that a new thing? < 1376230014 281352 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's at the very end of the flags list, I think it might be. < 1376230014 851680 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems like the kind of thing that tends to be GNU-only, but I don't know how new it is. < 1376230030 541194 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :dd: add 'skip_bytes' and 'count_bytes' operands Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2012 13:25:46 +0100 < 1376230038 895461 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, new or not, very nice. < 1376230110 736542 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been suggested at least as early as 2008, when this was given as a workaround (evidently found in 'info dd'): (dd bs=1 skip=123456 count=0 && dd bs=8192) < 1376230138 705964 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, I've just been using bs=1 skip=N directly and lived with the speed. < 1376230182 781497 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Author: Jim Meyering <jim@meyering.net> < 1376230184 326745 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Date: Sat Dec 2 08:12:56 2000 +0000 < 1376230186 356801 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : Undo most of the changes since 2000-11-24, since we've < 1376230188 360501 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : documented a standard way to do it. < 1376230190 835480 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : (skip_bytes, seek_bytes): Remove. < 1376230190 835689 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376230261 424159 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Author: Jérémy Compostella <jeremy.compostella@gmail.com> < 1376230263 299744 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Date: Sat Feb 4 15:25:54 2012 +0100 < 1376230265 343222 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : dd: add count_bytes, skip_bytes and seek_bytes flags < 1376230271 924827 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1376230277 234859 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dd: invalid input flag: `skip_bytes'" aw, dang. < 1376230280 242128 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Author: Jim Meyering <jim@meyering.net> < 1376230281 383679 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Date: Sat Nov 25 08:54:58 2000 +0000 < 1376230283 382517 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : remove bskip < 1376230285 339205 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : adapt skip to skip either by bytes or by blocks < 1376230315 727618 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So originally added 2000-11-25, then removed a week later with the documented workaround, and then reädded 2012-02-04. < 1376230325 656252 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if they just forgot that they didn't intend to add it. < 1376230468 578196 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, that's GNU coreutils 8.16 or newer, then. < 1376230479 396196 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :root@dumper:~# dd --version < 1376230479 663040 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :dd (coreutils) 8.13 < 1376230492 293688 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should've deboostrap jessie'd instead of debootstrap wheezy'ing. < 1376230505 337756 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know why I went with wheezy anyway. < 1376230688 6423 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gads, coreutils' configure is incredibly long. < 1376230700 303653 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : stat no longer reports a negative file size as a huge positive number. < 1376230702 375876 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : [bug present since 'stat' was introduced in fileutils-4.1.9] < 1376230702 650258 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it makes sense it tests every single thing known to man, but anyway. < 1376230705 875402 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A negative file size? < 1376230826 239777 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"core/coreutils-8.21/src/dd if=/dev/sda1 bs=32M skip=15639748608 iflag=skip_bytes | lzop | nc 10.102.76.2 14141" yay < 1376230843 65608 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray < 1376230888 15719 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376230907 46898 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Annnd... it does 70 Mbit/s. < 1376230910 157288 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hooray" indeed. < 1376231028 679014 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1376231044 828254 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curiously enough, top says 80% CPU idle, so it's not bound by that. < 1376231048 535297 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird. < 1376231062 831424 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a 5-core machine? < 1376231137 487226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two. < 1376231197 98806 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was that the speed across the network link or in total < 1376231223 139496 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In total, looking at the resulting file size. < 1376231235 609447 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, I'll just let it copy as it likes. < 1376231247 670846 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the receiving end CPU-bound? :-P < 1376231399 751716 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It certainly shouldn't. < 1376231416 263436 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1376231431 670480 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPU use 13% and it's keeping all four cores at 0.8 GHz (the lowest setting). < 1376231502 820153 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376231532 467951 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now the plain copy is also writing 75 Mbps. The strangest. < 1376231533 237075 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it could theoretically be IO-bound on the receiving end, but e.g. the RAID resync on this disk was fast as anything. < 1376231581 663109 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's a brokenish disk then it's of course likely to slow down in certain areas. < 1376231606 276846 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one shouldn't (knocking on wood) be broken, it's just the disk that was in the old box before. < 1376231638 201167 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, being old is enough to make it likely, I think. AIUI it can happen a lot even in new disks. < 1376231688 740164 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *could* try a plain dd-to-null read benchmark, but I'm not sure I care to. < 1376231767 392324 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://static.usenix.org/event/hotos/tech/final_files/Krevat.pdf < 1376231769 410760 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[U]nder normal operation, disk bandwidth to/from corresponding regions of a set of disks can be expected to vary by 20% or more from the fastest to the slowest." < 1376231805 695025 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that quote's more about performance between seemingly identical disks. Well, it refers to intradisk variance too. < 1376231836 557582 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd still expect a bit more than 10 MB/s out of it. < 1376231844 478580 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't ever read the smartctl --all output at all. < 1376231950 478932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rest of the disks are fortunately going to be smaller. < 1376231979 929017 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having a lot of reällocated sectors is one indicator, at least. < 1376232082 821919 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :80G, 250G, 2.5G, 120G and 30G. Huh, one's even bigger. < 1376232099 280172 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The big one has "broken @64M" scribbled on top of it. < 1376232109 119731 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 005 Pre-fail Always - 0 < 1376232144 829033 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 is good :-P < 1376232801 107852 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was thinking maybe a filesystem-level copy for the second partition would be smarter, but it's 102G used of 115G in df, so probably not much of a win. < 1376232817 998545 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1376233201 68575 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376233492 32011 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1376233527 430821 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376233565 744192 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376233660 375004 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376233965 493556 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376233998 94479 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376234779 203180 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376234815 355770 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B02DEDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1376234861 99709 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1376234868 532513 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1376234943 26856 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1376235758 880092 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376236939 7946 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376237927 756430 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376238017 383765 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre < 1376238852 106802 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376239167 308684 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376239596 495948 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376239682 121831 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376239738 716599 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was the ZZT game "The Secret of Cannibal Island" and I like the music, so I made a .NSF with more fancy music such as adding chords; it is 2A03+VRC7. It seems like pretty good in my opinion! It is: http://2a03.free.fr/dl.php?file=4151 for binary, http://2a03.free.fr/dl.php?file=4150 for source. < 1376239905 173585 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot find the Wikipedia articles for a free ring; it redirects to something else. < 1376239914 787493 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: try the arxiv maybe < 1376239920 76007 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a proper academic library < 1376239928 299000 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :way better than wikipedia < 1376239957 481154 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a free ring < 1376239958 348108 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it might help, but I wrote this idea of what I thought might be a "free ring" and a "free commutative ring"; do you know any things about free ring? < 1376239976 257366 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, i dont think any one uses the term < 1376240003 812096 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I write about it correctly though? < 1376240018 354543 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you write < 1376240076 444473 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :An element of a free ring over a set S is a signed multiset of lists of elements from S. < 1376240096 252985 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376240104 409374 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that correct? < 1376240118 418740 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like polynomials in S? < 1376240139 608449 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bit like that, I think. < 1376240182 562432 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If it is a free commutative ring, then it should be "of multisets" rather than "of lists".) < 1376240207 820274 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a set, not a field? < 1376240237 563665 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, a set, not a field, is what I an trying to mean (I don't know what it is called but I thought it might be called a free ring). < 1376240302 517348 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be callled the ring of polynomials < 1376240362 554911 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polynomial_ring#The_polynomial_ring_in_several_variables no? < 1376240438 385229 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me see < 1376240444 962412 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you happen to know what are these "Xnn" effects I see in some S3M files? < 1376240505 243163 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think it is panning? < 1376240537 12058 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to be panning in Impulse Tracker and others. < 1376240548 281139 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The official Scream Tracker help files don't mention X at all. < 1376240583 671612 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It has S8x for setting pan position.) < 1376240586 455523 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: OK, well, "free commutative ring" does seem like it might be what I have defined, although they give a different definition. < 1376240637 876543 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't know, then. I have OpenMPT for playing .S3M and so on, so I tried creating a new file and entering a "X" effect and it says it is panning. < 1376240649 129457 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It's worth checking whether Scream Tracker itself does anything with them. They could be extensions. < 1376240711 792560 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Scream Tracker doesn't support panning except on GUS, though. Schism (which AIUI is an Impulse Tracker clone) does panning with it. < 1376240717 829294 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: (I think their definition probably ends up being equivalent to what I am thinking of, though.) < 1376240727 385471 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the X values in this file would make sense if it were panning. < 1376240785 807896 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Then perhaps at least in that file, it is supposed to be panning. < 1376241057 987584 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Wikipedia doesn't seem to have anything about "signed multiset", except for the "Free abelian groups are formal sums...they may be seen as signed finite multisets..." paragraph, and this is what I mean by "signed multiset".) < 1376241105 520618 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you using thse free rings for anythin < 1376241159 865391 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a multimana in Icosahedral RPG makes free commutative ring over the set {w,u,b,r,g}. < 1376241199 668760 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yes I am using these free rings for something. < 1376241234 559051 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah < 1376241279 986514 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is certainly different than other systems. < 1376242308 752436 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Communication of delicious has not been included because to children all confectionery, especially < 1376242311 935881 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :chocolate confectionery, is delicious." < 1376242327 367448 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this marketing report thing about a relaunch of Curly-Wurlys is great and I have no idea why I am reading it < 1376242346 865552 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :Communication of deilcious has not been included | Хммм, тхис стуфф реаллы сеемс то ворк | 22nd IOCCC is open: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | jsvine is doing an esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q/viewform | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1376242353 48800 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :Communication of delicious has not been included | Хммм, тхис стуфф реаллы сеемс то ворк | 22nd IOCCC is open: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | jsvine is doing an esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q/viewform | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1376242409 745829 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Cyrillic script count as an esolang or why is it in the topic < 1376242433 353161 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is that Greek, whichever < 1376242464 868523 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it's English < 1376242597 78603 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The language is, but the alphabet used isn't < 1376242612 10298 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree, that is not the English alphabet < 1376242626 846289 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just wondering if there's a point to it < 1376242662 389190 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only one person knows that < 1376242706 480774 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: no < 1376242708 660451 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no point to it < 1376242751 757014 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"These ideas were put into qualitative research in animatic form and exposed to children aged 6–11 < 1376242754 764960 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :years old. Children under 6 were excluded because they are a little too young to use in research." < 1376242757 794282 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :advertising is scary < 1376243005 623204 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just like animal testing, except with children. < 1376244155 244025 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my girlfriend served as an adult control subject for some behavioral research on children < 1376244171 569978 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like they had her hold a stuffed animal and spin in circles and then try to walk in a straight line, or something < 1376244199 778088 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stuffed animal is just to make the kids not freak out, but they can't very well omit that in the control! < 1376244210 93802 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: not so much "except" as "in particular" < 1376244213 408031 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would the kind of stuffed animal and the kind of tiles on the floor affect something? < 1376244375 329019 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1376244383 850014 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what's with the return expression in that code < 1376244451 128436 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: can you get good money for that < 1376244462 509361 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am totally up for being a professional stuffed-animal-holder-and-circle-spinner < 1376244471 588709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :she did live on psych studies for a year yeah < 1376244505 250153 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, which code < 1376244511 918833 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I be a professional stuffed animal holder < 1376244529 209448 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nacl constant time compare < 1376244529 979028 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a control protocol where you don't use people who live off being sociology test subjects < 1376244535 20075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1376244557 110839 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just psych studies, not like medical studies where they inject you with things < 1376244575 16146 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Yes, it might be good idea having such a control protocol to avoid that kind of bias. < 1376244579 456508 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :she did one study at MIT Media Lab that involved collaborating with robots to rescue survivors of an earthquake, or something < 1376244582 440731 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounded pretty fun < 1376244593 819586 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :another one where she had to brush her teeth and open doors with her non-dominant hand for 2 weeks < 1376244598 878824 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was like a willpower training thing < 1376244652 764342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think it always returns -1 differentbits is nonzero. < 1376244657 869556 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Without a branch.) < 1376244658 738706 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And report how often she lapsed to her dominant hand, or what? < 1376244715 216218 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <+kmc> my girlfriend served as an adult control subject for some behavioral research on children [...] <+kmc> she did live on psych studies for a year yeah <Jafet> Is there a control protocol where you don't use people who live off being sociology test subjects < 1376244720 50185 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1087) <+kmc> my girlfriend served as an adult control subject for some behavioral research on children [...] <+kmc> she did live on psych studies for a year yeah <Jafet> Is there a control protocol where you don't use people who live off being sociology test subjects < 1376244750 988677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: no; they had some willpower-testing task before and after the 2 weeks < 1376244762 149847 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the sample bias is unfortunate < 1376244838 938913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember how a few years back the FCC auctioned off billions of dollars of radio spectrum? that auction was designed according to studies done on my friends in college < 1376244840 676385 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(By nonzero I mean 1-255.) < 1376244861 126678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who used the proceeds from the auction games to buy weed and plastic ball pit balls < 1376244913 641542 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a plastic ball pit < 1376244913 842723 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what did they study? < 1376244914 542745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :billions of dollars' worth, i hope < 1376244918 740260 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would they need to design a new kind of auction for that? < 1376244930 16998 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure < 1376244974 701637 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they could've just redone the auction until they were satisfied with the result < 1376244994 895941 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1376247023 33929 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376247520 75939 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376247881 728424 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1376248069 445688 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376249564 606597 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disk-dumping news: the 3.5G disk is causing like 30-second delays before BIOS detects them, and now "ata1: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=0)" "ata1: SRST failed" errors on boot. < 1376249569 316959 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems: quite flaky. < 1376249603 449456 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try disabling DMA < 1376249653 585900 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sda: sda1 sda2 < sda5 sda6 >" well, at least it found some partitions there. < 1376249749 118086 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Copying seems to work fine. < 1376249799 258010 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There also seems to be DOS (w/ 4DOS) and Windows for Workgroups 3.11 on it. < 1376249896 880181 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But also a \BOOT directory with GRUB, some kernel, and a couple of what I think are boot floppy images. < 1376249918 278194 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376249950 606794 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, seems that there's been Windows 98 installed with F:\ as the system drive. Curious configuration. < 1376250134 557517 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's also making this clicking sort of noise when I write on it.) < 1376250198 679723 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, Master of Magic. < 1376250206 91773 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And The Incredible Machine 3. < 1376250647 492622 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1376250786 644111 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1376251231 110448 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376251332 420663 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1376252358 273178 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I cannot put the Uselessness RPG stuff in a git repository and it won't help (and because I am working on paper), but maybe it can help if the stuff from the paper can also be put in some wiki; that way all idea can be written and discussed too. < 1376252687 604613 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fucking hate git repositories right now < 1376252730 914843 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my new school uses one to collect our work and we lose all access rights when the due time is over < 1376252770 922714 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you get this annoying "could not read from remote repository, please check that you have the correct access rights" if you try to git push one second too late < 1376252818 782901 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and every night at 23h42 you can hear screams of despair from every student who got that message < 1376252836 824711 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also cries of victory from those who pushed one second before the deadline < 1376252964 529358 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the perils of shturmovshchina < 1376253068 225339 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there were those who did the work *not at the last moment* but that's cheating imo < 1376253154 17657 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should switch to something more ancient like CVS < 1376253157 844159 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should give you plenty of valid CVS-ate-my-homework excuses < 1376253172 284328 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nfs ate my work < 1376253179 717631 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course it'll occasionally actually do that, but you have backups right?) < 1376253181 583258 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like three times a day every day of the first two weeks < 1376253191 427999 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I did have backup < 1376253201 901166 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :both via the git and in other folders on the machine < 1376253212 177273 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE NFS MANAGED TO DESTROY THE BACKUPS < 1376253230 494923 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow it's intelligent and knows which files to make disappear < 1376253292 24587 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also sometimes I'm writing stuff on emacs and it will randomly erase a few lines in the file and replace them with "node 4.6.1 is not responding... node 4.6.1 is alive again" < 1376253323 543996 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to me that it's not git's fault at all, but rather the fault of NFS. < 1376253339 189193 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely the nfs yes < 1376253436 35267 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1376253614 285068 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1376253623 774810 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: http://sprunge.us/iJRf seems that it's indeed ddrescue time. < 1376253926 736981 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376253939 336619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<madbr> is there a pattern of binary or trinary digits that stays the same or mostly the same when multiplied by 3^n / 2^m < 1376253989 840395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone is thinking about the collatz conjecture... < 1376254225 857960 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376254569 285962 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: That then might mean that git is no good for that purpose. < 1376254608 966025 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the git is good, the nfs is bad < 1376254621 247027 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I suspect they purposefully did nothing to make things better < 1376254640 446813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<zzo38> Is there such a thing as a "free ring" (as in mathematical)? <-- yes. rings are a variety (essentially, defined by equations) and all varieties have free objects. (commutative rings are also a variety.) < 1376254667 167005 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is it the one I have defined? < 1376254722 986706 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Day of Zeux as a due time in 24 hours where the time you start the upload (if you use FTP) is the due time instead of when it is finished. That might allow cheating though. My own Z-Comp does something a bit different: You must submit the SHA-1 hash of the file before the deadline. < 1376254775 157182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes i think so, as long as the second order multiset (for addition) can have negative number of an element < 1376254854 426893 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, that is what I meant by a signed multiset < 1376255012 628734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw fields are _not_ a variety, division by zero messes up the ability to define it by just equations. < 1376255067 117294 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK; I didn't use fields anyways though. < 1376255081 397081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. it makes the "obvious" equation x*(1/x) = 1 have an exception) < 1376255728 948564 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376255944 348886 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376256361 165647 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376256368 525204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<zzo38> I cannot find the Wikipedia articles for a free ring; it redirects to something else. <-- there's a single-sentence definition buried inside the redirected article < 1376256402 749452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably technically correct, if not very illuminating < 1376256449 160982 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :revelation of the day: pedaling a bike requires metabolic work < 1376256459 459215 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376256540 640498 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's actually equivalent to what you said for noncommutative rings, since a free Z-module is really just a signed multiset < 1376256565 480444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's also the same as a free abelian group) < 1376256632 381476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in another sentence in the introduction, it implies that the commutative analogy to a free algebra is a polynomial ring < 1376256731 127393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so another way to define a free commutative ring is as a polynomial ring with the generators as variables and Z as the ring of coefficients. i think. < 1376256741 392535 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376256759 200094 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/search?q=path%3Awp-config.php I can't decide if github should turn off search forever, or just auto-break every single fucking dumbass system < 1376256765 870215 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes he should not take levofloxacin again. < 1376256771 417357 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION also hopes that never comes up again. < 1376256780 499709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of these should be equivalent to the category theoretical definition of a free object in the relevant category, of course. < 1376256818 252188 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, the left adjoint to the underlying set functor) < 1376257149 421192 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah, OK, so I suppose those things would be it too. < 1376257193 291152 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: anyway to prove that your formulation is correct you can note (1) the distributive law allows you to normalize every algebraic expression in a ring to your form (2) assigning suitable integer values to each generator (essentially the same as choosing a homomorphism into the integers) allows you to prove that different multisets cannot represent the same free ring element. (i am assuming the later will work; i haven't actually written it out.) < 1376257312 976389 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well for (2) you could just note they give different _real_ polynomials, which is also a kind of homomorphism. < 1376257502 11933 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1376257637 862016 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :crap < 1376257658 930863 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to connect to the wiki for the first time in a month < 1376257678 537220 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can nly remember the firs two characters of my password < 1376257681 581179 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :loads for me < 1376257684 802172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1376257746 792308 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they had a thing at the school about you being respnsible for anything done with your account - in particular, if someone forgot to lock their session, you were encourage to use it to do bad things < 1376257753 361434 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo bad things < 1376257755 451383 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me guess, you've never registered your email either *evil cackle* < 1376257770 730883 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i took the habit to change my password every three days < 1376257835 105204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt life lessons < 1376257866 658929 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fuck security" < 1376257923 309580 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah hum bike you have no idea how many people ended up with porn as their desktop background image / browser home page because they didn't lock their session < 1376257951 592343 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B02DEDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0/20130730113002] < 1376257964 801737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did someone sue the school to get an end to this madness twh < 1376257968 412218 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or fancy aliases in the terminal < 1376258003 527262 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I sent a ticket to the staff from someone else's account, volunteering to clean every single screen in the school because they were full of fingerprints < 1376258008 964329 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah this mostly seems like a pointless annoyance. < 1376258009 671472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: i note you've still not commented on my guess about your email twh < 1376258026 281835 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just received a temporary password oerjan < 1376258030 361757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1376258034 571864 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I've got to make up yet another new password < 1376258038 64969 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate passwords < 1376258045 241955 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y189=\ < 1376258047 424303 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bam < 1376258054 983326 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376258057 344545 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks Bike NOW I'VE GOT ONE POSSIBILITY LESS < 1376258065 331892 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 < 1376258085 72982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely you never considered a 6 char password a possibility in the first place twnh < 1376258115 972172 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone please tell me what that new acronym stands for < 1376258125 323465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would not help < 1376258133 762846 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1376258150 721926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm you haven't been here in a while i guess < 1376258165 452241 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :28 days I reckon < 1376258166 651640 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's been an explosion of hth use hth < 1376258170 392113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1376258174 684248 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I remember the hth days < 1376258175 882591 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :only in oerjanland < 1376258189 592476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1376258205 242369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may have slightly subsided. < 1376258325 132181 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I may change the name lookup in this program from a simple list to a hash table in a bit similar to how it is implemented in TeX (but using linked lists for resolving hash collisions). Do you think this will be OK? < 1376258366 543131 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does tex have built in hash tables < 1376258407 454556 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :TeX uses hash tables to lookup control words; they are described in section 256 of the source file. < 1376258468 485771 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Excess Flood < 1376258499 382752 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376258564 13170 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-66-95.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376258667 292902 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1376258890 184967 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-66-95.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376259039 385990 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-66-95.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376259131 63915 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376259147 23389 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I should put these things I wrote on this paper for the Uselessness RPG 1 into some wiki as well; do you have some wiki and section of wiki for putting it in to, which would be suitable for this purpose? < 1376259187 473713 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376259486 297446 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-66-95.public.wayport.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376259509 823742 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-66-95.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376259538 86217 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-66-95.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376259616 445290 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-66-95.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376259716 652186 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376260032 805172 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1376260269 205084 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376260278 787401 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376260311 985429 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so are you electrocuted now < 1376260586 440949 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1376260590 885494 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is this re my tweet < 1376260620 725759 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i just destroyed 10cm of my LED strip < 1376260630 260258 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww/heh < 1376260641 865831 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of 20m total, so not a big deal < 1376260646 296098 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376260653 856447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you blow up one controller you can just solder onto the next one along < 1376260691 746321 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1376261073 546547 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre < 1376261452 552042 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you trying to make? < 1376262192 320020 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-66-95.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376262466 768672 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PART :#esoteric < 1376262648 993043 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-66-95.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376263857 964267 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376264117 848945 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376265129 417697 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrong-way_concurrency < 1376265205 702679 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes you think. < 1376265225 696922 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-66-95.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376265296 569737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you're at wsu now? < 1376265389 944567 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376265403 134283 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as foretold in the prophecy < 1376265448 225384 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :at pullman? < 1376265469 404488 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376265488 469804 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo wrong end of washington < 1376265539 672505 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376265621 39304 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh i was at the other end before and nobody cared then!! < 1376265680 308773 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376265730 856225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes well it wasn't the place to be then!! < 1376265732 618502 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it is < 1376265781 354518 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you insulting me < 1376265792 220406 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"At least two roads run concurrently with their own opposite direction." The obvious question is, why not just skip that part? < 1376265839 495313 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :skip? < 1376265848 955248 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a north-south and a south-north road both turn west. no big deal < 1376265873 671955 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but if there's a single road carrying both directions of a single route, then the route must have a cul-de-sac. < 1376265971 297021 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be like a half diamond arrangement. < 1376265991 575529 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :north route goes up, turns west at a corner, later turns north by northeast, rejoins southern self later up < 1376266049 372517 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, lemme think about that. < 1376266142 312882 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see, like, sort of a rectangle arrangement. < 1376266169 805885 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: LED accent lighting for my living room < 1376266180 255355 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beyond the north and south ends of the rectangle, you just have the northbound part of the freeway on the east side and the southbound part on the west side, like usual. < 1376266231 805876 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But from the south end of the rectangle, the northbound road turns left and follows the south edge of the rectangle west, then turns right and follows the west edge of the rectangle north. < 1376266247 298622 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it turns right again, following the north edge east, and finally turns left again and continues on north. < 1376266283 812106 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So traffic goes clockwise around the rectangle, and the north and south edges of the rectangle are wrong-way concurrencies. < 1376266325 198183 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Why* they'd do that, I have no idea. Perhaps, say, the downtown part of the city is south of the rectangle, and there are a bunch of businesses west of the rectangle. < 1376266340 650605 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :People traveling out of the city are more likely to want to visit businesses along the way than people traveling into it. < 1376266385 944427 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Business" meaning a building providing a service to the public, rather than an office or factory. < 1376266589 680998 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: huh? no < 1376266590 120047 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just don't realize how great it is to be able to reverse direction without an interchange < 1376266597 766774 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's the place to be because i'm here < 1376266614 876381 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well bad timing < 1376266986 736873 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the discussion started before 0 UTC, i should assume it is just coincidental that wikipedia has a highway as today's featured article < 1376267017 87677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe Gracenotes sneak peeked < 1376267110 907646 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376267179 91854 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard Gracenotes has ""connections"" < 1376267197 98051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1376267277 308038 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they choose them in advance... < 1376267316 663445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought they flipped a coin at midnight < 1376267320 41638 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since the discussion is about highways, I should assume that oerjan didn't actually read the wikipedia main page for the fun of it < 1376267328 101138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d4000000 < 1376267328 302311 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 1443117 < 1376267333 447516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d100000000000000000000000000000000000000000 < 1376267333 647647 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 73274656582344544685947877970172273676770 < 1376267340 326086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 < 1376267340 526304 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 659790748428201985583386173652174207609455971330297358345175532... < 1376267347 118389 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they have that many featured articles. < 1376267349 930202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt Jafet is making some wrong assumptions < 1376267352 688132 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ddddd5000 < 1376267357 920285 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sux imo < 1376267371 198662 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the next article is Barton Fink. < 1376267384 238750 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :2d4 < 1376267384 438807 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: 3+4 => 7 < 1376267392 253392 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :1000000d2 < 1376267392 458420 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: 1500179 < 1376267400 208989 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :1000000000000d2 < 1376267400 409029 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: 1500000345378 < 1376267427 68057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :10d4 < 1376267427 268165 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 29 < 1376267429 968283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :5d4 < 1376267430 168308 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 11 < 1376267431 838231 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: The actual explanation for at least one of those cases is that it's between two interchanges that don't have full directional access. < 1376267433 608035 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :3d4 < 1376267433 808191 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 3+3+1 => 7 < 1376267436 669791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :4d4 < 1376267436 870132 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 10 < 1376267479 748789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: NOOOOO NO SPOILERS < 1376267536 8717 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://maps.google.com/maps?vpsrc=6&ie=UTF8&ll=40.428149,-80.025487&spn=0.009555,0.01929&t=m&z=16 # The route enters from the NE with I-376 and leaves to the SE with SR 51. < 1376267543 949636 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376267782 308009 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376268112 920538 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376268876 784466 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I'll ddddd5000 for you! < 1376268897 987834 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: 95 < 1376268905 952610 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thx. < 1376268910 793057 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ywhwh. < 1376269128 589089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @dice @run (\[_,x] -> text $ 'd':x) . words $ @show @dice @run (\[_,x] -> text $ 'd':x) . words $ @show @dice @run (\[_,x] -> text $ 'd':x) . words $ @show @dice @run (\[_,x] -> text $ 'd':x) . words $ @show @dice @run (\[_,x] -> text $ 'd':x) . words $ @show @dice d5000 < 1376269132 791415 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf: 27 < 1376269183 131954 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elegant. < 1376269249 544444 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i want to make a "thus spoke Bike" pun sometime < 1376269255 25554 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's no good time for it < 1376269259 885956 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so someone else can make it instead < 1376269555 913016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that pun would just be tiresome < 1376269640 565063 :augur!~augur@96.231.203.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376269726 592767 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, shachaf: I looked up Wrong Way Corrigan, because of watching a QI episode < 1376269731 919081 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it wasn't meant to be a chain < 1376269749 791101 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a queue for front pages featured article, in fact, it goes many months into the future < 1376269776 52373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: let's just gear down < 1376269825 384317 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hum, hum. What is 5, anyway? It's 1 + 4, and yet it's also 2 + 3... < 1376269838 186270 :augur!~augur@96.231.203.58 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376269850 522186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: it's like addition isn't injective or something! < 1376269860 811567 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah! < 1376269861 983201 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 is the holy < 1376269872 523987 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we really know five < 1376269876 738110 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the one true pair of numbers that adds up to 5? < 1376269884 413174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt Bike is muslim < 1376269897 480507 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure it's 1 and 4. It can't be 2 and 3. < 1376269905 612678 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :blasphemer. < 1376269906 296228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you'll make me cranky < 1376269908 393377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 2 and 3 are prime! < 1376269910 615379 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then again, 5 is a Fibonacci number, by virtue of the fact that it's 2 + 3... < 1376269923 162350 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Zero and five. < 1376269924 659304 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: who cares that it's the sum of two prime numbers? < 1376269969 333062 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376269972 763147 :augur!~augur@96.231.203.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376269981 553094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike's true Twitter account: https://twitter.com/ThePunBike < 1376269998 55745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In Cantonese, "five" sounds like the word "not" (character: 唔). When five appears in front of a lucky number, e.g. "58", the result is considered unlucky." chinese numerology just gets weirder. < 1376270013 130619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: primitive people! < 1376270017 863636 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help, what letter comes after Z? < 1376270023 534817 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :W hth < 1376270023 921691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Æ < 1376270027 522446 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: In what alphabet? < 1376270032 91012 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the English one. < 1376270034 263471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also don't listen to the swedes hth < 1376270036 134847 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I remember. It's &. < 1376270134 934051 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> succ 'Z' < 1376270135 683359 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : '[' < 1376270150 372495 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there you have it. < 1376270164 663588 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, clearly SZ comes after Z. < 1376270166 192986 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: I think they meant the English alphabet, not the ASCII alphabet, isn't it? < 1376270175 849227 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, the English alphabet. < 1376270179 234788 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going with Æ. < 1376270184 318527 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1376270190 709533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data Nat = Z | S Nat deriving (Show,Read,Eq,Ord,Typeable) < 1376270191 813357 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1376270197 90365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1376270198 97643 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine < 1376270198 297953 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined. < 1376270202 105151 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data Nat = Z | S Nat deriving (Show,Read,Eq,Ord,Enum) < 1376270202 743184 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:142:41: < 1376270202 943451 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Can't make a derived instance of `Enum Nat': < 1376270202 943645 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : `Nat'... < 1376270207 633400 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah. < 1376270210 127764 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :P x y z æ = x z (y z æ) < 1376270211 856851 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Useless. < 1376270222 183189 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't it make Enum? < 1376270237 462167 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider: w x y z < 1376270252 75326 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the type isn't, what's-it-called. An enumeration. < 1376270271 173469 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. i guess. < 1376270280 462967 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it derive Ord < 1376270283 944903 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are using non-ASCII alphabets then you can even use Greek or whatever too you aren't even limited to AE ligature and so on. < 1376270294 917608 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it just didn't get to the Ord error. < 1376270300 63621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No problem with Ord. < 1376270300 904156 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I demand that it be referred to in Unicode as a Latin letter. < 1376270302 999057 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :.u æ < 1376270307 815186 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey Phennies. I'm talking to you. < 1376270342 430043 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data Nat = Z | S Nat deriving (Show,Read,Eq,Ord) < 1376270343 141860 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :compare Z Z = EQ; compare Z (S _) = LT; compare (S _) Z = GT; compare (S x) (S y) = compare x y < 1376270343 342362 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1376270349 862484 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, call it a Latin letter, if you want to < 1376270360 955191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you asking about the rules for deriving Ord in general? < 1376270362 133869 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wouldn't switching LT and GT give you a valid Ord instance? < 1376270375 369802 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but not the one it derives. < 1376270377 783666 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: That would be the reverse ordering; it is still valid < 1376270378 619589 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't that quesiton be true of like any ord instance < 1376270387 119093 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376270407 525074 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i am talking about the rules for deriving Ord in general, yeah. < 1376270410 143433 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many classes can be made a backward instance from the existing one, such as order, monoid, applicative < 1376270445 813285 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1376270446 90704 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess P x y z = B (x z) (y z), so P x y = S (B B x) y, so P x = S (B B x), so P = B S (B B). < 1376270447 564301 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine < 1376270447 764188 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined. < 1376270456 728674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: I recommend seeing the Report for the exact rules. < 1376270462 100843 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data Nat = S Nat | Z deriving (Show,Read,Eq,Ord) < 1376270463 23829 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1376270463 896236 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The order of the summands matters, thought. < 1376270466 562968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/..$/./ < 1376270469 435121 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> S Z > Z < 1376270473 73310 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : False < 1376270483 714487 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i get it" < 1376270486 415824 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It also matters for Enum.) < 1376270509 70019 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let newtype Mu f = Mu { runMu :: forall a. (f a -> a) -> a } < 1376270509 308684 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse failed: TypeOperators is not enabled < 1376270512 133760 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would be better making it you can deriving by macros instead of built-in. I think many things in Haskell ought be macros rather than built-in, would make them better. < 1376270512 974535 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1376270519 344178 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could even make data Rev = (Ord a) => Rev {getRev :: a}; instance (Ord a) => Ord (Rev a) where { compare = flip compare `on` Rev } < 1376270520 920629 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is getting annoying < 1376270529 556417 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1376270532 936147 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :replace the last Rev with getRev < 1376270545 645129 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, on the other hand, we could just as well say P x y z = B (y z) (x z), meaning P x y = S (B B y) x, meaning P x = uhh hang on < 1376270546 443768 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could, but why, when it's already in Data.Ord? < 1376270552 843403 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Yes you can make things like that for other classes backward too < 1376270790 390906 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :P x = B (C S x) (B B), so P = B (C B (B B)) (C S). Yeah, I like the other one better. < 1376270833 328610 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what does it mean to do something five times? Do you do it twice and then thrice, or thrice and then twice? I'm pretty sure you do it thrice and then twice. < 1376270864 802093 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what's 6? Is it two threes, or three twos? Pretty sure it's three twos. < 1376270879 464302 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do it once, and then once more time, and then once more time after that, and then one more time, and then one more. Now it is five times. < 1376270923 42735 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah, but is that once and then (once and then (once and then (once and then once))), or (((once and then once) and then once) and then once) and then once, or ((once and then once) and then once) and then (once and then once), or what? < 1376271002 674386 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: It doesn't matter because it is associative. < 1376271010 956317 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm. < 1376271017 914731 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're probably right. < 1376271271 222512 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's 7? It must be what you get when you start with 1 and then double it and increment it twice. < 1376271323 996386 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about 10? Ooh, I hate that number. < 1376271325 864806 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I suppose there are many ways to make seven, but really it is (1+1+1+1+1+1+1). < 1376271455 355703 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376271501 657896 :augur!~augur@96.231.203.58 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376271624 748593 :augur!~augur@96.231.203.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376271761 547242 :augur!~augur@96.231.203.58 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376271891 145103 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 is, of course, 5 choose 2. Though it happens to also be 5 *times* 2. < 1376271910 475402 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: with, like, a restful json api and mobile apps and stuff < 1376271918 178264 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. local < 1376271933 927358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if you make a web interface it should be on the public website < 1376272086 226524 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376272906 917719 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376273676 821215 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376274373 960973 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the Uselessness RPG 1 (the one with the picture), I was using OHRRPHCE but I decided not to, for a few reasons, one is that, they make some bad assumptions, such as that the player charaters are always human and the non player characters are never thieves and that an attack cannot have a script in it. < 1376274772 952015 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376274773 151921 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1376274773 152079 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376275237 4951 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1376275857 253982 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1376275892 732066 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, let's write some strong AI. < 1376275996 62825 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strong AI of what? < 1376276043 992326 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of... rationality? < 1376276203 113485 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that < 1376276287 709743 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :An artificial intelligence that could successfully perform any intellectual task that a human being can. < 1376276291 406122 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(To quote Wikipedia.) < 1376276333 593692 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant rationality. < 1376276386 9650 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Uh, the ability to come to conclusions that are reliably correct. < 1376276402 964126 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds pretty hard to quantify. < 1376276411 326519 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, kinda. < 1376276418 579030 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be better than an intellectual task that a human being can. < 1376276424 24905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in some cases) < 1376277164 738558 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1376277172 818552 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376277858 317167 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone told me some of my ideas were good but I needed to write it out more carefully; there were also many defects in there system so I wrote those too, and I put them into all one file so I can just post the URL. However, I tried to tell them of these defect and society/gods but I can't because system is defective! I cannot access it at all because it is defective! < 1376277931 847063 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going to have to drink hemlock < 1376277999 206967 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't expect so. < 1376278035 256854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 is mad as hell and not going to take it anymore < 1376278085 482374 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know, some drugs have really shitty side effects. < 1376278094 526782 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Spontaneous tendon rupture" is up there. < 1376278099 477978 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Such as hemlock? < 1376278101 825099 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: see, i try to avoid drugs < 1376278109 300816 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you people are all crazy < 1376278110 867302 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: what, seriously? < 1376278131 377586 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes, there's an antibiotic that can cause that. < 1376278150 297504 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: See, when your testicles are in serious pain you're not likely to consider such things. < 1376278154 786133 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: fair < 1376278169 369246 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'd probably consider it at that point < 1376278175 932206 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a fan of recreational drugs < 1376278183 398813 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Infection of the testicles" is also a shitty thing. < 1376278192 57163 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not much of a recreational drug guy either. < 1376278206 187208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1376278210 869616 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :re testicles < 1376278219 534247 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately, that's resolved. < 1376278224 557540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't rupture your tendons and/or testicles < 1376278229 537023 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :testicular torsion < 1376278250 997988 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just getting random skeletomuscular pain from the antibiotics. Which is a side effect which can show up fully 6 months later. < 1376278263 178156 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And hoping I don't actually rip a tendon. < 1376278267 435360 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: oh, I thought you were < 1376278276 569184 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, best of luck with your tendons < 1376278299 757071 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Nope. I imbibe in alcohol in small quantities, and caffeine in absurd quantities. < 1376278326 727458 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by "small quantities" I mean "I don't think I've ever had enough alcohol in my system that I could be charged with a DUI if I drove". < 1376278359 231757 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://ix.cs.uoregon.edu/~butler/pubs/acsac12.pdf oh gosh, this is amazing < 1376278360 737265 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPLEDGE my personal favorite side effect: so bad you have to register with a national registry to take it < 1376278363 727501 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is an acne cure. < 1376278377 887397 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wow. < 1376278383 354443 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they wrote a MapReduce implementation that runs off of cloud web brosers like opera mini < 1376278386 840043 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*browsers < 1376278401 662863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: :D < 1376278440 369948 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Levofloxacin has some potentially frightening ones. < 1376278455 637236 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In rare cases it even kills your nerves! < 1376278477 219537 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In more common cases it just causes temporary paresthesias. < 1376278481 600204 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wassat < 1376278498 149150 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know the feeling when a limb goes to sleep? < 1376278499 88076 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That. < 1376278512 292786 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's also the first sign that your nerves are dying. < 1376278518 119175 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1376278538 493726 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, yes. It has one non-serious side effect and a serious-as-fuck side effect that look initially similar. < 1376278724 553470 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also neat is that the first sign of tendons rupturing is cracking in the joint. < 1376278731 218175 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My joints crack a lot anyways! < 1376278768 621438 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suddenly I've become an old man. Woe. :P < 1376278796 168842 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the deal with joints cracking anyways, like, why does that happen < 1376278827 219258 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnomes < 1376278837 648099 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Temporary partial vacuum being created in the fluid in the joints. < 1376278848 623744 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :by gnomes < 1376278849 320010 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sound is the bubble of vacuum collapsing. < 1376278880 489521 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1376279347 629075 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought for a sec you were talking about false vacuum collapse < 1376279388 762277 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :goodbye knee and body and planet and local group < 1376279428 879467 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1376279439 890696 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the cause of joints cracking was subject to some debate < 1376279453 339223 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracking_joints#Causes < 1376279473 811997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the planets that debated it too furiously were wiped out < 1376279493 782960 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1376279501 960142 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Medical doctor Donald Unger cracked the knuckles of his left hand every day for more than sixty years, but he did not crack the knuckles of his right hand. No arthritis or other ailments formed in either hand, earning him the 2009 Ig Nobel Prize in Medicine, a parody of the Nobel Prize.[8] < 1376279510 103939 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that must have taken some discipline < 1376279535 848172 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376279888 858417 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376279971 11419 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376280290 972202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :learning about infosec is bad because then whenever a program crashes you wonder whether it was an exploit attempt < 1376280307 524187 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty good, and something to earn the Ig Nobel Prize for it looks like. Did he nominate himself or did someone else do so? < 1376280403 951917 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376280453 914000 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone ever won the Nobel Prize and Ig Nobel Prize for the same thing? (There are some people that have won both prizes but for different things.) < 1376280486 977959 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1376280530 832285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who has done what you said < 1376280532 804416 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376280535 813482 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1376280536 14189 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376280607 103994 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376280742 301459 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I should put these things I have on the paper for Uselessness RPG game also on some wiki, to make collaboration (because I also want idea/etc from other people too). Therefore, there is two copies. What wiki can this be put into, please? < 1376281076 714507 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376281108 273841 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376281794 594920 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376281843 801581 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376282416 745650 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would any existing one you know, work? Do you think the main Hackiki should work? < 1376282478 989327 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376282510 717440 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376282601 856070 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376282606 789457 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376282704 875177 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376282900 17241 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1376283175 494658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: You use gnome-terminal, right? When you open a new terminal (e.g. Ctrl-Shift-N), does it open in the current directory or in ~? < 1376283258 895514 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The current one. < 1376283266 626534 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1376283322 996370 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376283371 408902 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It stopped doing that for me for some reason. < 1376283379 523971 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376283379 982898 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe because of my recent apt-get upgrade? < 1376283527 405181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, https://wiki.gnome.org/Terminal/FAQ#How_can_I_make_new_terminals_start_in_the_working_directory_of_the_current_terminal.3F < 1376283619 785552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, it works with that script. < 1376285019 158515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1376286870 998629 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376286874 164937 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376286877 266995 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376288916 494623 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1376289380 3757 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1376290875 993090 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1376290904 839920 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376291171 467941 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376291845 778462 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1376292624 148071 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1376292637 978865 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GEDCOM recommends using the ANSEL character set < 1376292638 231613 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1376292734 243613 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it does say they'll switch "eventually to UNICODE" and will only use ANSEL "until multi-byte handling becomes more common" < 1376292751 949308 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the standard was written in '96, so I suppose multi-byte handling is a tad more common now) < 1376293639 406245 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376294406 348753 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376295810 31583 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1376296153 63109 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1376296241 427016 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1376296691 658977 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am now terrified < 1376296711 887065 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn terrify < 1376296713 748781 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "terrify" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1376296713 996194 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrify < 1376296713 996425 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : v 1: fill with terror; frighten greatly [syn: {terrify}, < 1376296713 996540 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : {terrorize}, {terrorise}] < 1376296723 268791 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's terrific < 1376296740 263532 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are two universities looking at my exam results (which I have not seen) and deciding whether I'm worthy to attend < 1376296850 347074 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep -h "that's terrible" wisdom/* < 1376296851 742552 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor took forty cakes. He took 40 cakes. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible. < 1376296887 353756 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :When will they finish looking? < 1376296914 845499 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I found out their decisions on Thursday < 1376298836 774634 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's aweful < 1376298853 318750 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the norm in England < 1376298899 494173 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, all it means for me is that I get my exam results at the same time as finding out if they're good enough to get into uni < 1376298904 315880 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's awsome? < 1376298953 791987 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1376298976 712243 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You spelt both "awful" and "awesome" incorrectly in precisely opposite ways < 1376299017 965389 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it is possible it was done intentionally < 1376299029 37937 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not < 1376299029 953486 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, even so! < 1376299032 591553 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing is possible < 1376299040 260847 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes me queasy < 1376299044 627037 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: sorry, that's not possible < 1376299241 203154 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'aweful' can mean good, because you are full of awe < 1376299260 974395 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'terrific' can mean bad, because you are full of terry? < 1376299298 803297 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so goes the semantic treadmill. < 1376299318 301812 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awful Lee Terry fic < 1376299350 491193 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awful Lee/Terry fic? < 1376299365 630582 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, ew < 1376299410 949033 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd read it < 1376299413 905569 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376299431 281867 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there anything you wouldn't read? < 1376299475 335096 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things that read themselves < 1376300532 733672 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads himself < 1376300710 90736 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :self reading book? < 1376300818 18441 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a self-ambulating person < 1376301885 999637 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376303019 42721 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376304320 10918 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376304328 162452 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376304357 21879 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376304376 845623 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376304763 146434 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1376305742 986129 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376305750 480307 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1376306067 358788 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1376306124 293014 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376306178 379996 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376306232 777508 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376306233 27762 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1376306319 970199 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1376307308 64895 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376309887 439207 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376310545 406635 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376310772 435535 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376311180 383942 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1376311761 742618 :ussynet!~ussynet@host138-73-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1376312586 193756 :ussynet!~ussynet@host138-73-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it PART #esoteric :"Leaving..." < 1376312754 428183 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376312807 388399 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good why is there cyrillicised english in the topic morning! < 1376312901 979519 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376313198 639063 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, i was able to read it fully. (I had infer some of the letters.) < 1376313225 853881 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have never tried to learn the Cyrillic alphabet, but it seems some of it has stuck by itself. < 1376313689 18929 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did a single course of Russian at the university, and got a 5 (of 5) for it; didn't really learn any of the language in question (except to say "is this place free?", the first sentence of the first chapter of the "textbook"), but the alphabet I still know. < 1376313738 909350 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to learn Armenian, but I am still confused by most of their letters. < 1376313832 418774 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to write some notes in plaintext, and need \hat{x} for a point estimate of x; tried both ^x and x^, and they both look really silly when I also need \hat{x}^2 in the notes. < 1376313856 920152 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :x^^2 is a no go, ^x^2 is almost as silly; (x^)^2 and (^x)^2 are passable but sill stilly. < 1376313860 606965 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still silly. < 1376313884 20686 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about \hat{x} < 1376313892 408474 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ \hat{x^2} $ doesn't work? (probably not. my off-the-head-latex is getting rusty.) < 1376313975 8541 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I don't want the notes to look like LaTeX source. < 1376313990 470625 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? < 1376313998 978827 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: "I just don't!" < 1376314045 158799 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: $\hat{x^2}$ would be a subtly different thing from $\hat{x}^2$, I think. (Both still probably render well in LaTeX.) < 1376314081 207606 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about widehat < 1376314105 760012 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Use a instead of x and then you have â < 1376314118 389587 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: Okay, I think that might render even better, but it's still beside the point, which was about writing things that look good in plaintext. < 1376314130 102619 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or if you don't dislike combining characters, x̂ < 1376314167 508408 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I... guess that might work. Or maybe I'll just call it Ex or something. < 1376314170 19489 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The x̂ actually is more legible than the â in my font. < 1376314196 256592 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're about the same here. (Both look like there's a bit of dust on the screen.) < 1376314242 464381 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The â looks like dust but on the x it's actually quite clearly a circumflex < 1376314394 124433 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376314550 903561 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376315294 262004 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesterday I bought a d30 just to mess with my DM. < 1376315429 866948 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1376315599 31628 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HAVE MY OUYA! :D < 1376315604 80939 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION squees like a fangirl < 1376315782 851021 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376316672 684994 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I wish I had mine >_> < 1376316682 860397 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grats, though ^^ < 1376316774 326793 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did your tracking ever work? < 1376316845 96079 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tracking as in delivery? or tracking as in the touchpad on the controller? < 1376316984 98886 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376317110 137386 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Delivery < 1376317115 886471 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since mine never showed anything < 1376317118 597682 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still doesn't, really < 1376317121 973245 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm still waiting < 1376317156 176623 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :never had any problem with tracking. I just had it stolen from my doorstep, so I had to wait for amazon to deliver a new one. < 1376317172 714082 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this time, I'm at the office, and I hold the infamous console in my own real physical meaty hands :D < 1376317207 927891 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376318122 747279 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's cool =) < 1376318132 328043 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just hope I get mine eventually < 1376318137 688077 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Support has been less-than-helpful < 1376318174 803012 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which sucks, considering that I was a backer and all < 1376318192 231487 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd think they'd thank the backers for believing in them < 1376318226 918936 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But all I get are "we'll fix this within 48 hours, promised!" messages with no response < 1376318397 259531 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm, t-his stooff reyalli seyems to vork < 1376318492 383569 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: support from amazon was incredible in my case. < 1376318519 688696 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: That's just it. You get better support from retailers than from OUYA themselves < 1376318531 68106 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But since I got my OUYA directly from them, I'm just straight out of luck < 1376318558 276810 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry if it sounds really bitter, I just got tired of running after them < 1376318587 94278 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was so excited about the games I'd be able to make, I promoted the console to my friends and family < 1376318645 328389 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I even though "Hey, those people are doing something really nice, I'll get the Kickstarter Limited Edition console. It costs more, but they deserve the extra support." < 1376318656 240626 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now this - no console, no money, no answer from support. < 1376318678 969401 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's sad. < 1376318686 421084 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much < 1376318713 737745 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :They told me they'd refund my international shipping (20$) since it's taking so long < 1376318724 121548 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :They asked for my Paypal ID, which I supplied < 1376318733 16035 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have yet to get anything there < 1376318744 814580 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :They gave me 13,37$ as store credit to apologize two < 1376318751 868290 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a shame I need my OUYA to redeem it < 1376318757 24003 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :too* < 1376319060 59845 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/too*/two/ < 1376319143 458153 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/( )/\1/g < 1376320024 360432 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376320290 868998 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376320300 952468 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1376320389 829623 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1376320418 588796 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376321801 102201 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376325093 756283 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/EIeN I don't know why, but all the "chromium chromium chromium chromium" was somehow amusing. < 1376325181 755224 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it goes < 1376325194 858594 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats so flash player can crash in one tab and not ruin the others right? < 1376325222 52419 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably also that Chromium itself can do it. < 1376325242 73901 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've gotten the "He's dead, Jim" tabs for non-Flash pages. < 1376325601 692260 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376325703 729792 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376325810 605963 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So this exists: https://github.com/philipl/pifs < 1376326102 372187 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats stupid < 1376326123 467689 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think of the space you'll be saving! < 1376326129 228219 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :none < 1376326146 105046 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1376326157 608288 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to store pi as a file on your disk... < 1376326166 285325 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres no bitstring you can use to compress arbitrary strings with indices is there? < 1376326166 995965 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :This file system makes it fit in a single byte! < 1376326189 522973 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it actually doesn't, read it more closely < 1376326202 956402 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just make assumptions like i do < 1376326231 154753 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does it on a per-byte basis, so doubtless it significantly inflates file sizes < 1376326251 355958 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1376326254 291362 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's too bad < 1376326278 767435 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cs.fit.edu/~mmahoney/compression/barf.html This kind of reminds me of this < 1376326338 875908 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :storing pi itself is one-to-one, though < 1376326438 725929 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, so it moves one byte into the file extension? < 1376326527 234406 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(initially i thought the trick was using 'nonempty' to free a pigeonhole) < 1376326564 580406 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah XD < 1376326575 538038 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically a parody/joke about cheating in compression benchmarks < 1376326585 317142 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because like, you can make it look like a file is much smaller than it is by storing data in the filename < 1376326605 477924 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think nowadays they tar up all the files afterwards and count that, just to be sure? -_- < 1376326607 396919 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :BARF extends this idea by trying 257 different algorithms and choosing the best one < 1376326610 771599 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1376326666 981628 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1376326673 814287 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if we stored the index in pi? < 1376326742 613299 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :forget about pi.. < 1376326768 125456 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't even use digits of pi to compress pi since it's computable < 1376326981 58736 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do all sequences occur in pi, actually? < 1376326995 369592 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but no one can prove it < 1376326999 818959 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know it's not proven to be normal, but normality's a stronger condition < 1376327019 756170 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :no can even prove that pi is irrational, they just say someone else did it < 1376327047 423395 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is ita stronger condition < 1376327050 726642 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you mean binary sequences < 1376327052 62702 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_that_%CF%80_is_irrational < 1376327073 467992 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i thought for normality every sequence had to repeat infinitely? or maybe something else < 1376327120 328876 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a number of infinite length is called normal when all possible sequences of digits (of any given length) appear equally often." < 1376327130 52257 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's irrational, transcendental, but not known to be normal, I think < 1376327136 76554 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it contains every sequences it contains them all infinitely many times < 1376327146 738033 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...point < 1376327168 606425 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :normal to a specific base is weaker than normal to all bases though < 1376327312 627205 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130812-chromium.png <- that's kind of... not good? < 1376327333 832749 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, the digits of a normal number appear equally distributed, without any statistical patterns. For example, 2718 2818 28 45 90 45... < 1376327357 726702 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :implying e is normal < 1376327385 953363 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :or isn't.. < 1376327430 13632 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia says e is like pi, they think it's normal but it's not proven? < 1376327431 836322 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I checked mine; it says the same stuff, and also claims I have a third-party ATI/AMD driver even though I don't < 1376327460 111285 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I had this working in the Ubunttu. < 1376327473 101218 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost every number is normal but mathematicians can't prove it for a single one... < 1376327492 922887 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, almost every number is uncomputable too XD < 1376327504 628797 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "working", it's crashed a couple of times, but just taking the tab in question down. < 1376327530 892490 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "0." ++ ([1..] >>= show) < 1376327532 116885 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "0.123456789101112131415161718192021222324252627282930313233343536373839404... < 1376327612 67550 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376327739 363078 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: (For the record; did about:flags "Override software rendering" -> Enable and now it's https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130812-chromier.png -- will see if it crashes and burns.) < 1376327892 17284 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what that does for me, too. Do you have an AMD card or does it just always work like that? < 1376327943 482836 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, this is a Nvidia card with the proprietary driver. < 1376327965 737488 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so it's presumably always like that. < 1376327973 335994 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went to a WebGL page, it hung up, I closed the tab, now it's listing all-software again. So. < 1376327992 922725 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1376328004 121666 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the record, I had working threedee on the nvidia driver on the old 7600GT card. < 1376328109 167025 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dangnation; and I was all set to fiddle around with WebGL on this. < 1376328128 970939 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try Firefox, just in case? < 1376328189 60312 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376328232 743547 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION had his vietnamese soup fix < 1376328239 673261 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the heck do you prove things like irrationality and trancendence < 1376328243 70148 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :let alone normality < 1376328258 887151 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you need to know about a number to be able to prove that? < 1376328267 84403 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_root_of_two#Proofs_of_irrationality < 1376328267 912525 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just print out all the decimals of a number. if there is no pattern, then it's irrational. < 1376328290 194566 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. foiled by true facts. < 1376328317 472852 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, that's different - it's straightfoward to explain why algebraic numbers like that are irrational < 1376328372 940956 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough, I hadn't followed the discussion so I didn't know you were talking about nonalgebraic numbers < 1376328375 533556 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i don't really understand how pi was proven irrational. < 1376328383 729833 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about continued fractions? < 1376328402 786540 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_that_%CF%80_is_irrational < 1376328406 797965 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, yeah but once you read and understand the proof youre no closer to answering my question < 1376328425 162615 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that CF irrationality proof is awesome though do recommend it) < 1376328442 50622 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it boils down to "you need to know no two numbers in ratio form that number", which is awesomely unhelpful < 1376328459 218819 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: That seems to work. < 1376328488 18318 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla, i'm tempted to indulge you but i know it'll go nowhere so i won't < 1376328488 647120 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Huzzah < 1376328544 233321 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote buh < 1376328545 974242 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376328559 722644 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`logs buh < 1376328561 87157 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: logs: not found < 1376328564 655742 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlogs buh < 1376328565 902737 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pastlogs: not found < 1376328583 445127 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know what to make of that < 1376328639 420763 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog pastlogs < 1376328678 885706 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems rude/dismissive though < 1376328679 171016 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.31511 < 1376328781 24228 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1376328795 975595 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages-loud < 1376328796 226318 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1376328877 803545 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1376329044 6728 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1376329085 255872 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages-quiet < 1376329085 503223 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1376329088 769418 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww < 1376329442 781965 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages-whisper < 1376329443 71657 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1376329454 75911 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages-sultry-whisper < 1376329454 316838 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1376329461 536106 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thwacks lambdabot with a rubber squid < 1376329595 472673 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1376329595 755425 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1376329600 385474 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list @list < 1376329600 631594 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No module "@list" loaded < 1376329602 685770 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list list < 1376329602 928659 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :system provides: listchans listmodules listservers list echo uptime < 1376329607 451970 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list listchans < 1376329607 704738 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :system provides: listchans listmodules listservers list echo uptime < 1376329612 478934 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list system < 1376329612 479119 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :system provides: listchans listmodules listservers list echo uptime < 1376329617 537088 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list  < 1376329617 780921 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No module "" loaded < 1376329633 258730 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@listmodules < 1376329633 504038 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :activity base bf check compose dice dict djinn dummy elite eval filter free fresh haddock help hoogle instances irc karma localtime more oeis offlineRC pl pointful poll pretty quote search slap < 1376329633 504135 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :source spell system tell ticker todo topic type undo unlambda unmtl version where < 1376329637 921518 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list undo < 1376329638 167469 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :undo provides: undo do < 1376329642 324230 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :?do < 1376329642 573189 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: expected a Haskell expression or declaration < 1376329649 803010 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"unmtl" < 1376329651 545896 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1376329662 167436 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... but... our home! < 1376329668 483148 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, we must do something! < 1376329884 598475 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know answer of any of my questions? < 1376330016 91067 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Do what? What about your home? < 1376330044 423916 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, lamdabot has a module loaded that could apparently destroy/undo my home < 1376330051 473534 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I'm a bit scared of, frankly < 1376330063 439685 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But eh, if I'm still standing, then I guess it's not big deal < 1376330070 527012 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, what questions? < 1376330156 290808 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Questions about Uselessness RPG 1 < 1376330172 229133 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And about how such module would possibly to destroy/undo your home) < 1376330185 160429 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :unmtl < 1376330228 595587 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would that do it? < 1376330234 583667 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live in mtl < 1376330251 478472 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't you in Lasalle? < 1376330261 689937 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lachine, really =P < 1376330267 400681 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1376330283 270765 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in Rosemont-Petite-Patrie. < 1376330297 914978 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK, then. Now answer the other question? < 1376330322 454407 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure < 1376330328 568207 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where can I read the questions? < 1376330395 17631 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to put it from the paper also on wiki to make collaboration. That is the question. < 1376330460 953508 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Somebody asked to put in git but at first I should have wiki to write the idea/planning, before a computer program is written.) < 1376330479 338328 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two points: < 1376330486 761976 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no question mark on your question < 1376330504 113652 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you seem to have accidentally something in there as well < 1376330539 19893 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I don't really know what the question is yet =/ < 1376330565 329228 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should you put it on the wiki? Should you make it a collaboration? Are you looking for feedback on the design/planning phase? < 1376330573 11771 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\./?/g < 1376330589 89897 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great, now I'm not sure of anything anymore? < 1376330596 164831 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at what you've done? =P < 1376330614 838016 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I want to know, what kind of wiki to put it in, that you have one. And yes I am looking for feedback on design/planning phase too once it is in wiki, we can make discussion on wiki too. < 1376330628 178963 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, okay < 1376330646 530178 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/s\/\\.\/?\/g/s\/e\/ë\/g/g < 1376330652 202632 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm really sorry though, but I have no idea what your project is, nor if a wiki would be a good place to plan it? < 1376330661 747210 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at that regex and twitches < 1376330679 859190 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like Gitit for a wiki < 1376330718 737502 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... instëad of changing ëvëry . to a ?, it changës ëvëry ë to an ë? < 1376330723 900280 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, looks like it doës < 1376330728 698690 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :GG boily < 1376330738 964587 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: On the other hand, the Web Audio stuffs works in Chrome (Chromium) but not in Firefox (Iceweasel). So if I want to run some sort of real multimedia application, I guess I just start both and try to keep them in sync. < 1376330751 921444 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems workable. < 1376330777 90781 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I could invest in a second mouse, multi-pointer X and some kind of robot arm to duplicate my movements, in case the application takes input. < 1376330790 959885 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is, but I want to know what wiki/section it can be, such as the existing Hackiki, esolang wiki, IF Wiki, some other wiki, or whatever, possibly in a user space, or which server is best for this kind of subjects, specifically, is one thing. < 1376330815 404238 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Surely you can multiplex things easier than that, e.g. with Xvfb. < 1376330822 342596 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1376330835 491735 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: That's called cheating. < 1376330884 529603 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever cheating is, I think multiplexing your input between two browsers so that you can keep the audio stream from one in sync with the video stream from the other is the opposite of it. < 1376330931 466176 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376330944 792528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is currently a bug in Firefox OS preventing you from sending a text message that starts with "Yo," < 1376330951 545349 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? XD < 1376330976 934011 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just happens to be the bytes of a free(NULL) call < 1376330977 668800 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically that or a number of strings including that < 1376331012 349302 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know the details < 1376331039 749880 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if that's similar to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_hid_the_facts < 1376331071 253041 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yo, < 1376331100 296355 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: nice bug < 1376331180 249282 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to use some wiki (and section in such wiki, if applicable) with permission, and I want to ask permission of whatever wiki it is (such as Gregor's Hackiki, or something else) < 1376331189 598223 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the fungot would you interpret a string as bytecode voluntarily... < 1376331189 943204 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: handle your flasks carefully there might be a doppelganger sent to inflict pain or cause injury. suddenly, wilson thought about war, and it could fit inside thor's shirt. its power of darkness. ( ulysses, by jakob and wilhelm grimm) < 1376331215 923102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love character encodings < 1376331331 301475 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an encoding bug in my Android app atm < 1376331343 780245 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, the backend wasn't ready to receive and parse unicode < 1376331356 181747 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So whenever there's an accent in the SMS message sent to the server... < 1376331386 848300 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376331391 49217 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :...it stores some String representation of the hex string corresponding to the unicode byte values < 1376331399 662221 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which, of course, it can't parse =P < 1376331403 759130 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode byte values? < 1376331414 787025 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1376331416 12644 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376331418 17795 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite byte values < 1376331422 354874 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It stores 0073 instead of s < 1376331426 146946 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems that Web Audio API is on by default in Firefox 25 (current Aurora release), so given their release cycle... it'll be on-by-default in current release version about tomorrow. < 1376331434 376475 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the byte values of encoding problems < 1376331455 290643 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not value bytes. they aren't much. < 1376331463 968134 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :om nom nom < 1376331465 838934 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So intead of storing s;whatever, it stored 0073003Bwhatever < 1376331471 328399 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376331480 260584 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the backend dev is on vacation < 1376331481 371780 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yay < 1376331482 123490 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: If it exists but isn't enabled, you can just enable it in about:config. And /that's/ cheating. < 1376331529 569531 :nys!~YXWX@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1376331754 971956 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it exists already in the current release. < 1376331791 435529 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least my 24 has a media.webaudio.enabled = false. < 1376331842 793983 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION jealously ogles Deewiant < 1376331984 392952 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would that be cheating? < 1376331999 398066 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre < 1376332588 490539 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Oh, good news, can't stoop that low: this Debian jessie installation has Iceweasel 10.0.12 installed, which of course doesn't do any of that. < 1376332631 671168 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It would be too easy. < 1376332679 95605 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iceweasel 10? Strange. Stable's on 17, no? < 1376332679 368639 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Does that directly correspond to a firefox version number? If so, enjoy. < 1376332755 476999 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I think it does. But hey, that's just 13 versions back. < 1376332781 143282 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Debian official policy is now "we ship the latest ESR") < 1376332788 575780 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Men were killed for lesser things < 1376332831 698526 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Curiously enough, that'd be version 17, which is in both stable and unstable but not in testing. (Perhaps some transient thing.) < 1376332848 940224 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you mentioned that about 17. < 1376332868 645015 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ESR, as in that eric guy? < 1376332874 259279 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1376332938 555001 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably "extended support release" or somesuch < 1376332958 619485 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring. < 1376332961 440339 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck esr < 1376332961 920714 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376332965 860795 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck ESR < 1376332966 563486 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376332980 750375 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck i-esse-erre j'ai dit! < 1376332981 177030 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376332985 216368 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck stupid < 1376332985 505517 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid definition: slow of mind. < 1376333022 563574 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/iceweasel.html oh, so stable and testing are both 10, but stable-sec (and unstable) is at 17. < 1376333030 166837 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that 17 would really help much. < 1376333040 464284 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376333077 964646 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how old is firefox 10? I think I last used firefox 2 or 3 < 1376333161 402932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :10.0 is from January 2012. < 1376333171 179171 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Huh, hasn't it been longer than that?) < 1376333203 35482 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.5 is mid-2009, 3.0 mid-2008 and 2.0 from October 2006. < 1376333220 131706 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I miss the days of 0.4. < 1376333230 645434 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, 2.x is most likely then < 1376333236 279094 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.6 was the last non-alpha 3.x, and that was January 2010 < 1376333263 7815 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started with 0.4; I somewhat miss those days too < 1376333317 446451 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A more civilized age and all that < 1376333357 699231 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have absolutely no idea when I switched over. I guess there was something Mozilla in-between Netscape 4 and Firefox? < 1376333383 243210 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, the suite. < 1376333384 45263 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes, there were lots of mozilla as I recall < 1376333402 975346 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a Netscape 5 (6?) < 1376333415 415131 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Netscape went up to 9 < 1376333417 17814 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Netscape 6 was based on the Mozilla code. < 1376333420 451090 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they skipped 5. < 1376333430 412138 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Timeline_of_web_browsers.svg has a fancy chart. < 1376333434 645704 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 and 7 were based on Mozilla, 8 and 9 were based on Firefox < 1376333444 565160 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird... 5 is a much better new-codebase number than 6 < 1376333472 180757 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should start a Prime Numbers for Web Browsers Campaign. < 1376333478 757467 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: They were making a 5, but nothing came out of it. < 1376333487 649683 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Plus they obviously needed to one-up IE 5. < 1376333570 679313 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The so-called "Slackware Maneuver".) < 1376333597 718962 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maneouvre is hard to spell < 1376333613 40672 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently < 1376333627 568816 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the slackware manöver though? one-upping IE or skipping number 5? < 1376333665 769488 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/manöver/manœuvre/ < 1376333680 167104 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: One-upping competitors. < 1376333707 962555 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The joke is that Slackware is better than its competitors so it inherently one-ups them all the time. < 1376333711 207083 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: They went from 3.x directly to 7, because Red Hat and everyone else was at 6. < 1376333765 801780 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe they got a 4.0 out, but at least they jumped from there. < 1376333800 961567 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"First off, I think I forgot to count some time ago. If I'd started on 6.0 and made every release a major version (I think that's how Linux releases are made these days, right? ;), we would be on Slackware 47 by now. (it would actually be in the 20s somewhere if we'd gone 1, 2, 3...) < 1376333810 461713 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's clear that some other distributions inflated their version numbers for marketing purposes, and I've had to field (way too many times) the question "why isn't yours 6.x" or worse "when will you upgrade to Linux 6.0" which really drives home the effectiveness of this simple trick. With the move to glibc and nearly everyone else using 6.x now, it made sense to go to at least 6.0, ... < 1376333816 447399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... just to make it clear to people who don't know anything about Linux that Slackware's libraries, compilers, and other stuff are not 3 major versions behind. I thought they'd all be using 7.0 by now, but no matter. We're at least "one better", right? :)" --Patrick Volkerding < 1376333873 228911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sun went from Java 1.4 to Java 5 (aka 1.5) < 1376333889 340552 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Linux went from 2.6.39 to 3.0 arbitrarily < 1376333889 750698 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from 1.1 to Java 2 1.2 < 1376333895 965859 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Java 7 still 1.7 somewhere? < 1376333907 788300 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :up to Java 2 1.4? then Java 5 ... I think < 1376333943 13900 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows went from three-four-ish to ninety-five, though. :p < 1376333960 53938 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And then on to two thousand.) < 1376333980 518132 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, 95 is at least internally 4.0 and 2000 is 5.0 < 1376333989 606710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then there were NT versions < 1376334019 105125 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Windows 7 is 6.1. < 1376334032 222856 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Windows 8 is 6.2. < 1376334047 595344 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about 8.1? < 1376334061 542870 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's 6.3? Dunno. < 1376334065 386452 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, according to wikipedia Java went from Java 2 1.4 to Java 2 5.0 before going to Java 6 < 1376334066 239607 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :6.3, it seems. < 1376334088 748485 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: The 5.0 was 1.5 on the inside in many places, though. < 1376334098 775338 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Java 2 5.0 aka 1.5" is quite a. < 1376334192 403592 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also it's "manööveri" in Finnish.) < 1376334241 501464 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And the verb is "manöveroida".) < 1376334255 802597 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess vowel harmony is more of a suggestion than a law.) < 1376334273 682880 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what would the vowel harmonious version be?) < 1376334283 925716 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Alternatively "manövroida", it seems.) < 1376334303 714976 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Manooveri, mänööveri. < 1376334311 236437 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vowel harmony isn't a necessity in loanwords. < 1376334321 426488 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise it is, I think. < 1376334356 438221 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course what is and isn't a loanword gets blurry over time.) < 1376334389 308742 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does the ¨ indicate in finnish < 1376334401 571752 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: a quote? < 1376334404 835187 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing by itself, ä and ö are different letters. < 1376334435 173224 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The front versions of a and o. < 1376334473 539535 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :a is front, the difference is openness. < 1376334505 220938 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Wikipedia claims a /ɑ/ is the back unrounded vowel. < 1376334519 543270 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn. < 1376334538 261566 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And that both /ɑ/ and /æ/ are open.) < 1376334553 957484 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :æ is near-open, isn't it? < 1376334571 853550 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that it's a big difference. < 1376334583 697577 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it does continue with: "Phonetically, the phoneme /ɑ/ is usually central, although it is back in some dialects." < 1376334588 17788 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I suppose it's: a mess. < 1376334610 226951 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ɑ/ seems quite closed, at least to me < 1376334612 479307 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ä/ is central, /ɑ/ is back. < 1376334620 520347 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least in french.) < 1376334692 52204 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dialects tend to make messes. < 1376334717 587714 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, vowels are the first casualty < 1376334744 564837 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any other language in the world that prominently features unvoiced vowels, as in Québec French? < 1376334762 807944 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comme le e muet, mettons? < 1376334780 763959 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376334788 225773 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japanese comes to mind < 1376334794 94707 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I'm getting this right, anyway < 1376334802 416058 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: "-- several Native American languages --", apparently. < 1376334829 872790 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: oh hm. I should have known. ちょっと日本語を話せますけど… < 1376334834 836836 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cheyenne has 14 orthographic letters composed of 13 phonemes, several of which can be devoiced. ([x] is written as x orthographically but is not a phoneme.) Devoicing naturally occurs in the last vowel of a word or phrase. It can also occur in vowels at the penultimate and prepenultimate positions within a word." < 1376334836 284101 :atehwa!~atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1376334836 837767 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ah! interesting! < 1376334845 867250 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arigato gozaimasu < 1376334888 638719 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sō ja ne... < 1376334945 454166 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"although contrastively voiceless vowels have been reported several times, they have never been verified (L&M 1996:315)." < 1376335010 850750 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1376335320 454487 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I know the topic sort of passed already, but since I had the tab open... this is what chrome://gpu says after I go to any webgl thing: http://sprunge.us/NUVD < 1376335362 44521 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That does seem problematic. < 1376335380 149922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they'll fix in in the future. < 1376335401 925827 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, I don't have glxgears. < 1376335424 800127 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Install mesa-demos or the equivalent. < 1376335508 948190 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mesa-utils", apparently. < 1376335566 311894 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate." < 1376335569 833014 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. The whole point were those over-nine-thousand-FPS numbers. < 1376335615 790134 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: vblank_mode=0 glxgears < 1376335635 230239 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found that in the interwebs, but it did nothing. :'( < 1376335644 843092 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :WORKSFORME. < 1376335652 857344 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that always left me puzzled: how can you achieve higher than 60 fps on a screen, where the hardware's refresh rate is fixed to 60 Hz (or 120 Hz if you have a nice high-end monitor). < 1376335676 287575 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WORKSFORME=0 glxgears < 1376335678 307999 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just send the frames and the display displays as many as it can. < 1376335694 297098 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The frames also change in the middle of the display update. < 1376335696 358325 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a not-quite-fake-but-neither-very-true measure. < 1376335717 921530 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376335725 720855 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll blame the nvidia driver for vblank_mode not doing anything. < 1376335747 128859 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376335748 440346 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can disable vsync globally < 1376335762 128039 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvidia-settings has a vsync setting, that'd probably do it. < 1376336405 825016 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist (910) < 1376336407 744408 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist (910): shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1376336580 219927 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1376336582 274950 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :transcendality put to good use: https://github.com/philipl/pifs < 1376337178 27060 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376337344 808347 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo linked that earlier < 1376337716 699733 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :permit me to loudly and squaredly facepalm as a sign of sincere apology. < 1376337860 259786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1376337967 110549 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1376338371 319672 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1376338481 399424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's awful (disclaimer: i haven't read the logs yet, so i have no idea what you are referring to) < 1376338536 439483 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I didn't really mention it yet. < 1376338541 659166 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean this: http://hackiki.org/wiki/uselessness_rpg_1,,main < 1376338591 149575 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just broke out laughing < 1376338609 539196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you probably have Kuru hth < 1376338618 558706 :douglass!~douglass@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1376339242 229713 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck kuru < 1376339242 600319 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kuru definition: a rare progressive fatal prion disease that resembles Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease and has occurred among tribespeople in eastern New Guinea who engaged in a form of ritual cannibalism. < 1376339263 859100 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: try to not die. it is poor manners. < 1376339296 760218 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure NOW you tell me not to eat brains < 1376339299 179331 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :BIT LATE HERE < 1376339399 12817 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next they'll be telling me not to get profound tendon damage. < 1376339443 111212 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tongues in a Korean-style marinade are still safe, right? < 1376339451 290543 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Systemic tendinitis, what a sideeffect. < 1376339473 180817 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fleshy, chewy tongues, lightly grilled... < 1376339475 870310 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION drools... < 1376339720 681111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, but tongues are disgusting hth < 1376339793 923385 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Are you sure? Maybe to you and some people it is; maybe to some people it isn't? < 1376339874 40817 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tongues are tasty and flavourful. < 1376339984 702468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: let's just say that cod tongue is the one food from my childhood which i cannot abide trying again. < 1376340058 441445 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cod... tongue??? bletch. < 1376340084 280837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a distinction which does _not_ apply to either lutefisk or blood sausage, which others may find disgusting. < 1376340086 461005 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm okay with just about any possible internal organ, but cod tongue? < 1376340093 367695 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376340158 831670 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: as a fellow montrealer, what are your thoughts on internal organ edibility? < 1376340186 443983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the fact i won't eat bovine tongue is just tranferred cod trauma. < 1376340205 341388 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Transferred Cod Trauma is the name of my band < 1376340222 257411 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <oerjan> i guess the fact i won't eat bovine tongue is just tranferred cod trauma. < 1376340226 192137 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1088) <oerjan> i guess the fact i won't eat bovine tongue is just tranferred cod trauma. < 1376340271 390969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+s :( < 1376340272 624960 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You made up a band? < 1376340287 120770 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know, I just copied it verbatim. < 1376340305 961738 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I resubmit it with proper essification? < 1376340324 872981 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376340395 883393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless that's a freudian slip on no:tran = en:fish liver oil (as tapped in bottles and considered a health supplement; _freshly_ boiled cod liver is part of a delicious national meal (skreimølje).) < 1376340427 672364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no, i guess the truth of history shall not be hidden < 1376340461 432564 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I prefer the dubious scandinavian obscure liver pun version. < 1376340475 902449 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck skreimølje < 1376340476 507536 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376340490 451630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i suppose tran _might_ count as another such food, although i don't think that was pushed on me as much as on some other poor kids. < 1376340548 642167 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my dad tried to make us ingurgitate fish oil pills when my bro and I were young, but the memories of that are very fungotty. < 1376340548 880070 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: they say that you can lie on it till it hatched, and thieves. he is important as a lord, even on the astral plane. usually, there will be very useful if you're telepathic. < 1376340559 882019 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about vitamin E and whatnots. < 1376340617 471871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a norwegian wikipedia article on mølje but no english wiki link in it, alas < 1376340655 811329 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre < 1376340663 761935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i recall the meat variant, which is far less delicious but still edible after a fashion and which my mother used to make on christmas eve. < 1376340725 41612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: btw i recommend google picture hits for skreimølje hth < 1376340809 252164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the norwegian traditional way of taking fish oil is with a spoon, from a bottle. i hear nowadays they add orange flavor to it to make it less unappealing. < 1376340834 761562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they are making advertisements about it. < 1376340852 266686 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made the wiki of discussion/collaboration of Uselessness RPG 1, now. Please write a comment on it! (or if you find a minor spelling/grammar mistake on it, you can fix that too if you want to) < 1376340917 541750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: fungotty memories sounds like _all_ my childhood memories. < 1376340917 742312 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: better leave the dungeon; otherwise you might get giantslayer. < 1376340943 259575 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: as the Illustrious Markovian Bot said. < 1376340985 614133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1376340985 852247 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack* pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1376341107 870521 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you should give a link to the wiki; we can't comment or take a look at it if we don't know where it is < 1376341118 283246 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: I already did. < 1376341126 972617 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: sure we can. < 1376341132 252809 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, I will repeat it to you: http://hackiki.org/wiki/uselessness_rpg_1,,main < 1376341141 201963 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: thanks < 1376341518 672126 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the joy of being completely lost in the inextricable meandres of OpenERP innadrs... < 1376341531 124374 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/adr/ard/ < 1376341805 403430 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376341845 883641 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376341966 14439 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1376341994 716642 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376342134 233741 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to go get various thready resino-cupric apparatuses for power distribution and signal propagation. tonight is da night! < 1376342147 33449 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: OOOOOOUUUUYAAAAAAAAH! < 1376342151 403593 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376342911 133197 :eztam!~x@g229056106.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1376343327 795254 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376343439 644010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who wants to talk about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamport_signature ??? it's pretty great < 1376343469 455604 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a public-key signature system which uses no fancy math, only hash functions, and so resists attack by quantum computers < 1376343476 688684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :only problem is you can only use a given public key once >_< < 1376343707 676701 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, lesie lamport did non-latex things. < 1376343825 465514 :eztam!~x@g229056106.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Quit: Verlassend < 1376343999 803779 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :merkle trees were invented as a way of efficiently "distributing" lots of one-time-use Lamport public keys < 1376344085 553855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you generate 2^n keys, make them into a merkle tree of height n, and then publish the root as your identity < 1376344136 593987 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then to sign a message you also include one of those one-use keys and the path to it in the merkle tree < 1376344178 626188 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess once you've almost used up your 2^n keys you can sign a new root? not sure < 1376344461 885200 :johnny57!~dominik@chello212017069054.14.15.vie.surfer.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1376344466 196388 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you know about `grep ''`, feel like this is a useful non-obvious tip that people should know (or maybe everyone but me already does) < 1376344480 825171 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like cat but it labels the files all the lines are from so you can use it in a pipeline or just pass it to less or whaterver < 1376344486 155080 :johnny57!~dominik@chello212017069054.14.15.vie.surfer.at PART :#esoteric < 1376344495 104532 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi johnny57, bye johnny5 < 1376344496 153985 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 < 1376344523 104193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh that's cool < 1376344529 474922 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do use 'grep .' sometimes but didn't know that one < 1376344549 644665 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that work with empty lines? < 1376344631 803868 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it filters out empty lines < 1376344634 484437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is useful sometimes < 1376344957 18956 :dessos_!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376344957 636447 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes I do 'head -n -0 list of files', it's kind of similar except it puts ==> labels <== at the start of each file instead of labeling lines. < 1376345058 978226 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: `more ...` does the same < 1376345064 766113 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when piped < 1376345073 826618 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though the headers are slightly different < 1376345091 875332 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1376345118 316190 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376345152 220092 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376345232 7678 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Client Quit < 1376345248 461059 :kallisti!~eris@c-24-99-220-130.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376345248 661625 :kallisti!~eris@c-24-99-220-130.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1376345248 661781 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376345285 205864 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Client Quit < 1376345302 834669 :kallisti!~eris@c-24-99-220-130.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376345303 34876 :kallisti!~eris@c-24-99-220-130.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1376345303 35037 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376345307 483207 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376348326 976704 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone quickly give me a simple iterative code excerpt from a C-like language? < 1376348416 446057 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for(int i = 0; i < 10; i++){printf("%d\n", i);} < 1376348423 516427 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int fib(int n) { int res = 1, i; for(i = 2; i < n; ++i) res *= i; return res; } < 1376348431 736001 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow good naming < 1376348477 36039 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :naming? < 1376348484 325295 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fib for factorial < 1376348488 296356 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376348535 926995 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. XD < 1376348541 77099 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the name of your function < 1376348543 629461 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a bit of a fib < 1376348576 846183 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you < 1376348583 946082 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Fiora, used yours < 1376350215 888548 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1376350224 347071 :kallisti_!~eris@c-24-99-220-130.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376350227 969229 :kallisti_!~eris@c-24-99-220-130.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1376350503 61781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you hadn't learned haskell when you came here to #esoteric, had you? now i see you advocating it all over reddit :P < 1376350515 598977 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know! < 1376350517 297589 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's scary! < 1376350520 117717 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What have I become!? < 1376350591 277633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i vaguely recall what the haskell committee had was called a "syntax czar" < 1376350624 201753 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you advocate haskell < 1376350679 859534 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376350693 10482 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: we've already `olisted, no need < 1376350717 980417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :confirmed by googling it and getting hudak's A History of Haskell as one of the hits < 1376350750 307576 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​​`olist 001 < 1376350776 297748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, Sgeo's counter has wrapped around! < 1376350798 377807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also HackEgo has croaked? < 1376350802 797604 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1376350803 938551 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1376350812 677919 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo, we're all going to die < 1376350814 396750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION assumes unicode < 1376350826 516413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that is one common (but disputed) hypothesis < 1376350851 775010 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick NICK :yorick < 1376350881 18538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it depends on your definition of "die" < 1376350910 320371 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zero-width space. Also, Quassel doesn't have a right-click menu to add one, so I had to use character map :( < 1376350916 386807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think a sufficiently advanced singularitarian immortality is indistinguishable from religious afterlife, or something. < 1376350927 654786 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you added two, in fact < 1376350929 189540 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, how convenient. < 1376350980 318707 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1376350985 19160 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, are you reddit-stalking me < 1376351004 69321 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact some religions may have _less_ advanced afterlives than that... < 1376351016 49472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hides his reddit friend list < 1376351033 968080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, MAYBE < 1376351047 236350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: am i on that!! < 1376351057 278374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm are you, let me check < 1376351146 620738 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, like elliott you are excluded for never actually posting hth < 1376351162 309013 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, by the way, in another channel I'm fighting Haskell's last stand < 1376351170 908126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ooh < 1376351171 108166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hey i post at least once a year hth < 1376351174 238578 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how noble < 1376351187 728640 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw how do you quantify how advanced an afterlife is < 1376351189 679360 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maybe you should come to #haskell < 1376351211 498714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's ok since it's always(*) to r/haskell which i read anyway < 1376351211 918541 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you advance an afterlife < 1376351212 119220 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and/or #haskell-lens (the good channel and also smaller) < 1376351215 638577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(*) nearly always < 1376351237 611975 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell-lens isn't even logged < 1376351246 684355 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :top secret discussions < 1376351249 119418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well some afterlives like the buddhist ones might be _temporary_. and some might not be very attractive. < 1376351266 168583 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't sound very advancedness-related! < 1376351276 498348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually i'm not sure buddhism has afterlives as much as different realms to be reborn into) < 1376351323 129694 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :buddhism just has lives, generally < 1376351362 948979 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376351382 370139 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"singularitarian immortality"? Like, it is... < 1376351426 819870 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :overthrow the syntax czar and install a syntax soviet < 1376351460 28619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: basically about technology solving the problem of mortality, in whatever manner. (computer uploading with backups being a popular idea for how it could happen) < 1376351462 78417 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a syntax soviet elected by the syntax proletariat < 1376351497 408612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mortality is a problem? < 1376351512 729814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Harry Potter and the Tyranny of Structurelessness < 1376351520 418889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: some people don't like the idea of having to die, indeed < 1376351533 288186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least not until they themselves choose it. < 1376351537 552359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is not a problem. < 1376351550 478356 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is those kind of people. < 1376351572 907562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obvious solution: kill all the people who don't want to die < 1376351586 319075 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a four-way showdown between C, C++, Go, and Haskell < 1376351597 68466 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <+kmc> Harry Potter and the Tyranny of Structurelessness < 1376351599 29811 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm already incredibly disinterested < 1376351600 399035 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1089) <+kmc> Harry Potter and the Tyranny of Structurelessness < 1376351601 162656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i didn't say it was a good solution, just obvious) < 1376351608 518384 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that's one, but I don't like that solution either. Just simply ignore their request. < 1376351641 898349 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i found out my school library has a binder of PDP-11 macro programming manual < 1376351644 898596 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing imo. < 1376351723 32368 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you macro program a micro computer < 1376351729 684655 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, the PDP-11 was a mini computer < 1376351735 448488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i think what you need is to get kmc in there to make it a five-way showdown < 1376351738 689174 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's programming In The Large < 1376351852 818498 :nys!~YXWX@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1376351931 421205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE nys < 1376351934 535718 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :NyS: wElCoMe tO ThE InTeRnAtIoNaL HuB FoR EsOtErIc pRoGrAmMiNg lAnGuAgE DeSiGn aNd dEpLoYmEnT! fOr mOrE InFoRmAtIoN, cHeCk oUt oUr wIkI: hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE. (FoR ThE OtHeR KiNd oF EsOtErIcA, tRy #EsOtErIc oN IrC.DaL.NeT.) < 1376351945 388714 :nys!~YXWX@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaah < 1376351950 68730 :nys!~YXWX@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been here before < 1376351954 688641 :nys!~YXWX@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not new < 1376351954 888995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1376351957 620327 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :won't save you < 1376351958 870669 :nys!~YXWX@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :o-o < 1376351960 690721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rwelcome nys < 1376351963 698195 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​9nys: 2Welcome 13to 6the 4international 7hub 8for 9esoteric 2programming 13language 6design 4and 7deployment! 8For 9more 2information, 13check 6out 4our 7wiki: 8http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. 9(For 2the 13other 6kind 4of 7esoterica, 8try 9#esoteric 2on 13irc.dal.net.) < 1376351969 589439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but have you been _WeLcOmEd_ before < 1376351978 581270 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi nys < 1376351979 998652 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is up < 1376351984 539134 :nys!~YXWX@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing much < 1376351998 380695 :nys!~YXWX@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :??6?$basic_ostream@DU?$char_traits@D@std@@@std@@QAEAAV01@P6AAAV01@AAV01@@Z@Z < 1376352003 729729 :nys!~YXWX@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kinda up < 1376352006 129403 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good symbol < 1376352021 768282 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: What is that? < 1376352026 397661 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main argument against Haskell seems to be "nobody understands Haskell" < 1376352036 49939 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty up, imo < 1376352041 199986 :nys!~YXWX@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: msvc++ mangled name < 1376352045 518370 :nys!~YXWX@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :of << < 1376352046 530595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what is it up < 1376352055 340750 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :msvc's stupid ass? < 1376352063 9232 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apart from the C guy who's saying "C is simple and uncluttered and fast. Everything else is awful" < 1376352065 338977 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid stupid dumb, my premier insult < 1376352069 768531 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb < 1376352071 991000 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds terrible < 1376352074 149238 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb < 1376352078 192618 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you in this discussion < 1376352089 19972 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy, because if I leave it'll end up with C++ < 1376352109 152150 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what < 1376352109 352343 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's going to end up in python and PHP < 1376352130 28708 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so anyway, should i read this book about tajikistan or this one about optics. < 1376352134 969100 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I'd have to learn C++! < 1376352402 689452 :dessos_!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376352573 818089 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@70.72.84.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376352602 430072 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It looks like quite an intense experience, but apparently it will be extremely smooth and comfortable despite of the incredible speeds:" < 1376352616 29615 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376352617 589720 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seemed obvious to me that it's acceleration that counts and not speed < 1376352659 599560 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't go with your crazy theories here, newton < 1376352840 19725 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anything the faster you travel the smoother the ride < 1376352859 302604 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about relativistic effects! < 1376352872 41001 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight, guys! < 1376352882 888719 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376352883 884161 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376352886 20697 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :goodnight TRAITOR < 1376352970 540308 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, yes, that's one of them < 1376352991 250130 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of what. the traitors? yes, we must ccarry out a purge. < 1376353021 515009 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, one of the relativistic effects < 1376353133 11427 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Excess Flood < 1376353160 281716 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376353842 740766 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: not sure I get it (beyond being a shorter ride) < 1376353857 480374 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shorter ride inside than outsid < 1376353858 330685 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1376354489 62835 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376354566 671167 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.aclweb.org/anthology-new/C/C08/C08-2028.pdf good < 1376354615 311407 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god the picture of the actual robots on page 3. amazing < 1376354842 943375 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Since the robots are supposed to say stupid things anyway, if they do so by mistake instead of on purpose it can still be funny." < 1376354930 401642 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Next, one robot uses a proverb or saying in < 1376354930 601963 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japanese, along the lines of “Recently my life has < 1376354930 602149 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :felt like ’jack of all trades, master of none’, you < 1376354930 602264 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :know.” The other robot then makes a vulgar joke < 1376354930 602373 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by modifying this, perhaps like “For me it has been < 1376354932 922892 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like ’jacking off all trades, masturbate none’, < 1376354935 481496 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must say.”." < 1376355006 321432 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, the joke is that there's nothing to get, hth < 1376355052 222295 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really hope these routines are funnier in the original Japanese < 1376355752 491931 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The main merits of the Robovie-i are that < 1376355753 681818 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is easily programmable, cheap, and cute." < 1376355824 342376 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/12/20_injured_at_lg_smartphone_giveaway_as_pr_stunt_turns_sour/ wow, this was a terrible idea < 1376355842 140484 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"let's release balloons with coupons for free phones. nobody is going to show up with bb guns and shoot at them" < 1376355867 221754 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bahahahaha < 1376355891 952104 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"knives on sticks" < 1376355926 453386 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey americans do any of you have experience with i-9 < 1376355928 832039 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i;m a baby < 1376355954 192483 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the form that proves you can work in the US? < 1376355961 842032 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1376355966 402439 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure i've filled out a few I-9s in my day, what's up < 1376355985 62203 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well just, do i seriously need to get my dad to mail me my birth certificate. < 1376356004 581970 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck, that lady really has a polearm < 1376356023 173123 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you need a birth certificate < 1376356032 491952 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to prove that i'm a true blooded american < 1376356044 390531 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1376356059 87278 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just used a passport i think < 1376356073 612020 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :darned foreigners < 1376356090 776350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a us passport < 1376356100 692149 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :darned foreigner-sympathisizers < 1376356149 699138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway there are a bunch of different things that you can use < 1376356167 543090 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used a US passport too < 1376356167 743471 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i have a table and they all involve mailing sensitive documents, so i wanna moan < 1376356209 454904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have to mail it < 1376356222 222622 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to get it mailed to me. < 1376356271 796206 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have any of the things in LIST A? < 1376356293 735042 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably LIST B isn't so hard, or is it?? < 1376356303 302058 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need list b and list c, if you don't have list a. < 1376356315 181984 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and everything on list a is irrelevant to me other than a passport, which i don't have because: baby. < 1376356334 389759 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo get a passport < 1376356368 876612 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway do you have some kind of id? < 1376356396 951933 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, sure. but not list c. < 1376356415 31577 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess likely would be a social security card or birth certificate < 1376356420 563660 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1376356485 832725 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1376356521 913737 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, to get a passport I would need a SS card or whatever. Also doesn't it take like a couple months to get, and money. < 1376356540 364118 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you don't have one of those either? < 1376356558 873181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you need them for things < 1376356560 393002 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have an ss card. but not with me. < 1376356626 402352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is scanning it enough < 1376356673 694283 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1376356739 46339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :some internet page says "The employer (or representative) must personally review original documents only. Photocopies (including fax copies) or numbers representing original documents are not acceptable. The only exception to the photocopy rule is a certified copy of a birth certificate." < 1376356780 397691 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i guess that's just as much trouble < 1376356788 482465 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can stop, shachaf. i just wanted to moan at the void. < 1376356805 907347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo get a passport < 1376356822 306231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise how will you go to finland < 1376356839 524190 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :underground railroad < 1376357254 312379 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, really, Canada. < 1376357682 986148 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1376359814 839999 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376360568 788413 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1376360942 758104 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@70.72.84.129 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376361280 468736 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376361681 174574 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why can't I sleep? < 1376361753 883682 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :clowns will eat you < 1376361775 174194 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a little known fact that I am poisonous to clowns < 1376361782 324265 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, all clowns know it < 1376361805 14470 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376361842 834784 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376362010 424197 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :A clown tried to eat me once and he died right on the spot < 1376362015 966316 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :They've been staying away since < 1376362017 255114 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1376362040 825564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Step into the future! Click here to switch to the beta php.net site" < 1376362084 67152 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ekmett scares me sometimes < 1376362100 243452 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ekmett is our lord and savior < 1376362184 13269 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ekmett is Jesusaurus Rex? < 1376362627 701305 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376363646 786182 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376365076 25699 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376365553 947728 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376365582 624695 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376366405 682031 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :....erk < 1376366429 100502 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having trouble with the non-identity compression algorithms that compress some files make some files larger thing < 1376366444 296047 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn pigeonhole principle. DEAL WITH IT PIGEONS. < 1376366458 436053 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What trouble do you have? < 1376366489 258930 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 bit files = 16 files, but there are 15 files that are smaller than that, so just one file could be left alone as a 4 bit file while the other 4 bit files get compressed. So no files end up larger. < 1376366512 697091 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :q: why are you compressing four-bit files < 1376366525 296363 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As an example as I try to explain this stuff on Reddit < 1376366549 746223 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: consider the behavior on 1-bit, 2-bit, 3-bit files < 1376366562 256354 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the problem here is you're considering "the original size of the file" as part of the compressed information < 1376366565 886231 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which you don't actually know? < 1376366578 386669 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you're assuming the original file is 4 bits < 1376366599 76297 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that if you're only compressing 4 bit files you can indeed get lossless shrinkage-or-equality < 1376366626 619659 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solution to disk space: specialize gzip for every possible file size < 1376366630 797816 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :one easy method would be stripping leading zeroes < 1376366662 596014 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, the decompressor has to know that it should only get four-bit files. < 1376366708 136198 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: this reminds me of like, the problem of universal codes < 1376366713 36537 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, with golomb codes < 1376366726 886922 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you need a universal code you need to signal not only the bits in the code, but how long the code is < 1376366744 925841 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :scandalous. < 1376366761 925844 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like golomb codes do it with something like "111 0 110" < 1376366772 937226 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual code is "0110" but the 1s are there to signal how long the code is? < 1376366778 576028 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's really 7 bits < 1376366789 687927 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the length has to include itself, eh < 1376366819 736730 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1376366828 377242 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1376366862 89482 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you tell where the length stops < 1376366899 456589 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 0 < 1376366917 276617 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<N 1s> 0 <N bits> < 1376366919 130590 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that? < 1376366921 296259 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1376366923 899300 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1376366927 336512 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was 111 as in seven. < 1376366930 286341 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so counting from 0 the codes are like < 1376366934 231370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought that because Bike said that < 1376366950 61423 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am the deceiver < 1376366952 86370 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :0, 100, 101, 11000, 11001, 11010, 11011 ... < 1376366957 166450 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ... < 1376366979 898518 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a better way of encoding the length if it's big < 1376366986 362935 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example encode the length of the length using that metho < 1376367005 36273 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could design a different coding scheme optimized towards a different distribution of input values? < 1376367010 266508 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :would increase decoding time, though. < 1376367038 697104 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if your input values are random between 0 and 1023, you just use a 10 bit code < 1376367063 707866 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if they're biased towards 0 you could use shorter codes for smaller things at the cost of longer codes for bigger things? < 1376367073 247239 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1376367196 605265 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elias_omega_coding < 1376367235 242698 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Right, I was thinking along those lines. < 1376367237 778277 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376367261 819299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not really worth it past a small constant number of logarithms, though. < 1376367313 813237 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Delta coding is visibly better than gamma coding but past that the difference is minimal. < 1376367339 416185 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :'The encoding for a googol to the hundredth power, 10^10000, is 33243 bits long; under Elias delta coding, the same number is 33250 bits long.' < 1376367518 726137 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (length "a googol") * (logBase 2 (length ['\0'..])) < 1376367519 736820 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Float.Floating GHC.Types.Int) < 1376367519 937276 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of... < 1376367525 656765 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :weak < 1376367549 517206 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> genericLength "a googol" * logBase 2 (genericLength ['\0'..]) < 1376367550 746296 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: stack overflow < 1376367556 215763 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew, genericLength < 1376367570 917673 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fromIntegral.length) is much better unless you're using lazy naturals. < 1376367571 916234 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shorter than (fromIntegral.length) < 1376367592 806930 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And indeed better in that rare case, too < 1376367601 350375 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((fromIntegral.length) "a googol") * (logBase 2 ((fromIntegral.length) ['\0'..])) < 1376367603 428123 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 160.6997027300027 < 1376367646 896144 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elias delta is clearly insufficient < 1376367900 717353 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The GNU AWK documentation has a section named "Undocumented Options and Features" which is intentionally left blank. < 1376367981 436371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This section unintentionally left blank. < 1376368024 712836 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are your thoughts on idealism < 1376368182 300102 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of idealism? < 1376368206 876744 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This section unintentionally useful. < 1376368253 58891 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :berkleyan < 1376368300 467506 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1376368687 740110 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1376369052 919626 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I added a file into the Uselessness RPG 1 wiki for creating a backup copy. Please tell me if it is OK? < 1376369131 20713 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the file: http://hackiki.org/wiki/raw/bin/uselessness_rpg_1,,create_backup < 1376369392 339733 :nys!~YXWX@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1376369713 812057 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was broken; now it is fixed. < 1376370084 859285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1376371793 790217 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376371821 71488 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376374731 35631 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please collaboration/discussion of ideas/plans of Uselessness RPG 1 (anyone is welcome to write a comment on it). < 1376376431 664388 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1376376903 87768 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what do you think of the lamport signature scheme < 1376377045 637638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lamport signature looks like it could help some things. < 1376377069 675303 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which things? < 1376377104 739455 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A few things are described on Wikipedia. < 1376377154 30316 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example if you only need to sign it once, or you could use Merkle tree < 1376377168 177691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Merkle trees are great < 1376377195 605688 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION -> afk < 1376377458 43440 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it looks like there may be other advantages too, in some cases. < 1376377574 312991 :hogeyui____!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376377795 887342 :hogeyui____!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1376378985 379079 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376379182 740013 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376379531 187671 :itsy!~digital_w@31.185.185.83 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376379600 402971 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1376379998 195282 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376380992 902932 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376381550 870581 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376383038 302388 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376383169 254336 :Guest67780!~sacre@50-81-222-220.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1376383581 982443 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376384088 322496 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1376384461 330952 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ In the name "Windows CE," the letters "CE" are not an abbreviation for anything, but rather they imply a number of the precepts around which Windows CE is designed, including "Compact," Connectable," Compatible," "Companion," and "Efficient." ]] < 1376384471 171065 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Found while Googling for what the "RT" is for.) < 1376384674 573708 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what's the RT for < 1376384885 150179 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Rarely Tested"? < 1376385006 537398 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it's officially for nothing in particular, but unofficially perhaps it stands for Windows Runtime (WinRT), the thing that "Windows 8 style" apps are written against. < 1376386405 769049 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1376386647 918405 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376388104 693830 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. I think MATLAB (or some subpart of it) just managed to create a file named "C:\nppdf32Log\debuglog.txt" in the current directory. < 1376388195 2713 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's one of those programs where you enable debug logging by creating a directory. (And also one that hardcodes backslashes.) < 1376388401 668594 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's matlab? < 1376388426 95223 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's firefox. < 1376388462 607411 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the one in my home directory at work is timestamped at around the time I used an X-forwarded firefox there this morning. < 1376388571 449591 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376388875 466721 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1376389430 380008 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was MATLAB's help browser this time. < 1376389441 618339 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it was in the directory where I started MATLAB (and nothing else) from. < 1376389484 210593 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably uses some form of web browser internally, though. < 1376389684 901643 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1376389986 68654 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another MATLAB weirdness: it only shows the splash but doesn't start if I run "matlab &", but it starts normally if I run "matlab", wait for the desktop to appear, then ^z and bg it. < 1376390032 441692 :monotone_!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1376390127 704019 :ineiros_!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1376390390 877298 :Tefaj!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1376390434 540582 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1376390434 815042 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :*.net *.split < 1376390435 85804 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vxioqercdsurgoua QUIT :*.net *.split < 1376390435 85966 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1376391833 475791 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1376391837 427666 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-opqpynmcbksowkah JOIN :#esoteric < 1376392393 92144 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376392427 519703 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1376392440 99226 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376393259 671122 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376394010 491773 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376394421 874274 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1376394422 138934 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1376394910 59032 :Tefaj!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de NICK :Jafet < 1376394929 439629 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Changing host < 1376394929 695355 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376395002 646299 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PART :#esoteric < 1376395027 94106 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376395194 34014 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376395252 390128 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376396530 967470 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1376397700 455064 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1376397874 16791 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376398310 903640 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376398320 780732 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376398740 401417 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good liquefied morning! < 1376399172 384370 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just spent close to an hour trying to figure out why this model is doing nothing, only to realize that I had mixed up the meanings of 'y' and 'x' when loading data. < 1376399420 120111 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: still deep into ML? < 1376399613 720463 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. One of our reviewers wanted a better baseline (to some "competiting" method), so I guess I'll have to implement something, even if it really isn't the point of the paper. < 1376399696 257895 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yuck. I hate the term baseline, and even moreso when it concerns ML. < 1376399742 60697 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the prof I worked for was obsessed with a baseline. I never knew which baseline he was talking about. < 1376399870 539206 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have the "standard" setup, a demonstrated feature enhancement dealie that's been published and benchmarked in other work, and (the main contribution here) a new trick that improves things, but reviewer #3 wants this paper to show also performance gains compared to completely different approaches, or otherwise there's "insufficient motivation for such a detailed study", or some-such. < 1376399898 463735 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Reviewers #1 and #2, on the other hand, would like some extended analysis of the trick in question.) < 1376399911 576740 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Peer review in action can be a pretty ugly thing. < 1376400128 72031 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the stories I've heard, academia scares me. < 1376400418 693626 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not so much "in" it -- e.g., I have this graduate school funding thing going on, so I don't have much if at all to do with the stereotypical incessant writing of grant applications -- so I wouldn't know. < 1376400526 598105 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if being a grad student is the same the world over... < 1376400565 150131 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There certainly have been a number of parallels to phdcomics.com. < 1376400760 127706 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, SDL 2.0 is out. < 1376400859 917066 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet :D < 1376400870 575977 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been quite a while. < 1376400894 115900 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Simple 2D rendering API that can use Direct3D, OpenGL, OpenGL ES, or software rendering behind the scenes" it's like so this millennium now. < 1376400973 111096 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiki.libsdl.org: "The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems." < 1376401227 911469 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376403741 911413 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376403744 697931 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1376404447 653127 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanello. < 1376404580 631272 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaurgh. I have a colleague who prefixes his privmsgs with «@nick ...». < 1376404723 855400 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's alright < 1376404724 918530 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1376404726 414751 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, "/msg boily @boily hi" < 1376404729 921594 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Private messages? =P < 1376404824 815772 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just generic IRC PRIVMSG, so something like: < 1376404831 732773 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@Roujo hi. < 1376404831 997335 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1376406224 347450 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a list for lambdabot's unknown commands? < 1376406261 767906 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unknown < 1376406262 61026 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1376406267 953339 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unknown command < 1376406268 210283 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1376406271 501820 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@!list < 1376406271 755627 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1376406280 880839 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's odd < 1376406316 948321 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@lisp < 1376406317 205893 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1376406322 63795 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yisp < 1376406322 323998 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1376406333 596629 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's got fuzzy matching < 1376406336 206470 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yispo < 1376406336 458209 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1376406428 86408 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck yispo < 1376406428 86525 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376407084 600683 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376407099 433687 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1376407385 890685 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnothelloTest, hezzo38. < 1376407422 565400 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems a strange way. < 1376407515 899914 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my kobo doesn't seem to charge... < 1376408187 447865 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376408400 818110 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still cannot connect to *.foxpaws.net < 1376408478 372271 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works here. it redirects to vulpes.foxpaws.net at 96.10.18.3. < 1376408514 436847 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean I cannot connect to any server under .foxpaws.net on any port number. < 1376408535 268967 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore I cannot send a message to them or whatever. < 1376408551 470449 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and the proxy doesn't work either) < 1376408590 115517 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird. foxpaws resolves to what IP on your end? < 1376408644 340483 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same as it does to you < 1376408645 861754 :Guest67780!~sacre@50-81-222-220.client.mchsi.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1376408669 266385 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However I cannot connect to other servers under foxpaws.net either. < 1376408725 245441 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have an example of a not vulpes host? < 1376408759 620325 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is vixen and watchfox; neither of those work either. < 1376408785 109395 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. it doesn't work indeed. < 1376408810 793370 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No port number works as far as I can see. < 1376408978 667192 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just nmapped the thing. the usual ports are open (ssh, smtp, ident, ...). do you want the XML log? < 1376409011 15252 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(now, how do I send a file through weechat...) < 1376409034 284968 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376409127 808713 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1376409273 643878 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's good, but I was trying to connect to port 8889; I tried other ports afterward to see if those would work, but they don't; so I cannot write a message at all (or read a message, but I was trying to write one). And one of the messages I was trying to write involves defects of the system (I put it in all one file so that I can just send the URL), but it appears too defective to do that. < 1376409290 67757 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And none of the ports you mention work for me on any of those three servers. < 1376409552 26438 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even when it was working, the session sometimes restarted for apparently no reason, usually while on the chat menu but sometimes even before that. < 1376409636 293464 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of fungotian servers are they? their purpose are very mysterious, and their operation a little bit too flaky. < 1376409636 548348 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: they say that having polymorph control won't shock you sooner or later. his symbol is the haste that ye hurry by? brother, i hear it: to have been man's first instructors in the wild beast short. that was noble and great and small, has a certain ring to it, without incurring any fine or other penalty." the bushmen say that nethack is more pleasant than cram,' they answered. ' imp' properly means a small time they will st < 1376409979 920553 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was playing a MUD game on there once, but I stopped due to the large number of defects in the system (and because I couldn't find the society/gods I wanted to select; someone told me to type all about it, so I did), and later I tried to reconnect to send messages relating to these things, and to access the help files, but I can't because it doesn't work. < 1376410023 370086 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376410648 181760 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And one of the things I wanted to tell them is that it doesn't work) < 1376410714 732765 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it work for you? < 1376410972 767278 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376411203 21908 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376411345 923452 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376413026 376732 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376413112 289149 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sorry, went out to lunch. < 1376413179 526649 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what do you want me to check again? < 1376413189 973610 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaah I now own a 3DS < 1376413241 586778 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Well, I wanted to send a message to them; one to "Foxbird" and one to "Priest of Old God" or something like that. < 1376413364 548249 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice subtitling: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130813-ok-intro.png "4k intro" => "ok-intro". (Sorry for the Finnish.) < 1376413542 789737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did that happen? < 1376413600 917182 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they used SPEECH RECOGNITION. (Pre-empting elliott here.) < 1376413626 714457 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: looks like I'm in the same situation as you. nothing apart vulpes.foxpaws.net works. «Erreur de chargement de la page ― La connexion a échoué» < 1376413647 846462 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is that a pun between “4” and “o”, or just poor subtitlement? < 1376413650 630809 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does that mean in English? < 1376413659 606982 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: The latter, I think. < 1376413699 356354 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376413704 33077 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be poor even if s/ok/4k/ < 1376413881 943290 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1376413908 517947 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376414005 278840 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1376414072 414560 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Rust runtime library is written in Rust now < 1376414079 874973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty cool, and more interesting than a self-hosting compiler imo < 1376414099 225129 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably it is better than a self-hosting compiler, too. < 1376414112 870760 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-212-106.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376414115 683251 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's not self-hosting until the whole stack is using the language, from the compiler to the OS." < 1376414123 868488 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how ya figgure < 1376414160 332649 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone have any suggestions for good backup programs for Linux? Looking for some way to automate incremental backup of the entire system. Previously I just mirrored with rsync, but now I'm looking for something that provides a bit of history as well. < 1376414184 394698 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1376414186 402246 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-212-106.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Power cut :/ < 1376414189 110214 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-212-106.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1376414205 352412 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :rsync + checkpointing filesystem < 1376414208 413476 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :git < 1376414241 96177 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, what checkpointing file systems do Linux support? < 1376414250 846215 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that is indeed an interesting idea < 1376414256 755207 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZFS, btrfs? < 1376414266 312052 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux supports ZFS? Since when? < 1376414267 855321 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess snapshotting is the actual term < 1376414272 488674 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zfsonlinux.org/ < 1376414279 258402 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I use a set of scripts built around rdiff-backup; it's pretty much like rsync except it does backwards-diff history on top. < 1376414286 931217 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also isn't brtfs in development still? < 1376414306 602181 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duplicity is another thing similar to rdiff-backup, IIRC < 1376414307 471160 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's also something very much like rdiff-backup, I forget the name.) < 1376414313 449446 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's probably what I was thinking of. < 1376414330 441975 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, btrfs is a work in progress, I don't actually know if it does snapshotting yet < 1376414331 801487 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hm nice, how easy would it be to extract a single file from a given version? Or browse what an old version looked like to try and find a file? < 1376414360 639265 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't really been needing to do that, so can't say. < 1376414384 544009 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latest version is easily browseable since it's just there, of course. < 1376414398 968456 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah < 1376414413 455524 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can ask the command-line tool for "newest before this date" kind of things, sure. < 1376414430 769548 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1376414434 269776 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I recall so; haven't had the occasion to. < 1376414513 185627 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Like duplicity, [rdiff-backup] uses the rsync algorithm for bandwidth and space efficiency, but instead of storing data in encrypted archives, it creates a mirror on the remote system." < 1376414547 298574 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i have to say is: https://github.com/philipl/pifs < 1376414579 593837 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ah < 1376414615 498825 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like I'm not the only one to repost the pifs thing :D < 1376414627 509612 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I think the Tarsnap tools are free < 1376414637 181823 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: :) < 1376414651 700084 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: lemme guess /r/math? < 1376414655 447764 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1376414657 528448 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ^ < 1376414684 44659 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :"They said 100% compression was impossible? You're looking at it!" <-- false, the position of the file in pi might take a larger number to express than the file content itself. < 1376414698 545915 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god, pifs < 1376414699 6259 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: I don't know what you're talking about. any evidence of me spending way too much time on reddit is false. < 1376414701 894932 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you are completely right. < 1376414710 187400 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Just store the position in pifs as well < 1376414710 427603 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I posted that in here yesterday < 1376414714 390622 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION points to metasepia "the bot did it!" < 1376414728 939065 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hehe.. i like reddit for the archives. if you unsub from the overcrowded subs then reddit is pretty palitable < 1376414735 56503 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I apply the pidgin hole principle. < 1376414736 639168 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: (And if that takes too much space store the position of that in pifs etc, recursively) < 1376414768 164697 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: But then you also have to store the number of recursions you've done =P < 1376414770 901156 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: indeed. I still do like todayilearned, mind you. I just have this insatiable urge to consume random trivia. < 1376414784 83686 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ideally, store that into pifs as well) < 1376414788 936716 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Just shove it all in pifs, it's free after all < 1376414808 645060 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yeah, reddit is a goldmine in its archives. thats mostly where i hang around in.. lol < 1376414811 434954 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, you would need to store for each iteration then if it was the file or if it was another address. < 1376414846 444465 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but pifs has some serious security problems with people all using the same constant. the government has direct access to everything you wrote, you're writing or might write! < 1376414859 861482 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either way the 100% compression is facetious < 1376414864 798752 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Just to be different you can store that info in √2fs < 1376414874 387988 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, quite so < 1376414877 420807 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yes, but separating that from the random crap is pretty much a lost cause < 1376414877 655014 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oh yeah < 1376414907 971796 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I believe efs would work too < 1376414911 310288 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suggestion: Finding the binary representation of some CP picture in pi, then suing everyone who has a copy. < 1376414936 832026 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I nearly forked pifs just to make that pun =P < 1376414941 799002 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was at work, though, so I didn't < 1376414945 589894 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: EFS already exists (actually there are many of them) < 1376414965 287892 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, question. what can we know about the relation between a sequence and its position in pi (assuming it's normal)? like, are the length of the sequence and the length of its position comparable? < 1376414980 22639 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I think I heard the name before for a normal file system < 1376415004 994772 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: where do you work? < 1376415006 27148 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently using rieserfs, liking it very much.. < 1376415006 265018 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, comparable how? < 1376415014 598232 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny using a murderers fs.. :) < 1376415015 561814 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: is one necessarily shorter, say < 1376415020 112551 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programmer at Dicom Express, sur Côte-de-Liesse < 1376415027 394103 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ @boily < 1376415033 248057 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, shiny! < 1376415035 551482 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, i think so, yeayh < 1376415037 279528 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yeah < 1376415050 33756 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A murderers fs? < 1376415073 106971 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, really? I would have guessed that sometimes one would be longer and sometimes the other one would be longer. < 1376415080 123238 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Reiser#Murder_investigation < 1376415094 193505 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, yeah, but on average < 1376415106 71309 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :on average which is shorter? < 1376415108 164031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#[test] #[ignore(cfg(windows))] #[should_fail] fn select_doesnt_get_trolled() { select::<PortOne<()>>([]); } < 1376415115 914817 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, on average they would be of similar lengths probably? < 1376415131 678555 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on average i'm p. sure they're the same < 1376415156 667500 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the definition of normal is that a sequence of length n in base b has probability b^-n < 1376415222 323990 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if the people who made that program is a murderer, the program itself isn't a murderer so that doesn't make it wrong < 1376415233 272223 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <zzo38> Even if the people who made that program is a murderer, the program itself isn't a murderer so that doesn't make it wrong < 1376415241 328703 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1090) <zzo38> Even if the people who made that program is a murderer, the program itself isn't a murderer so that doesn't make it wrong < 1376415251 450316 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use γfs < 1376415263 725708 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i know. its a good piece of software. just an interesting bit of history < 1376415278 248379 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: OK < 1376415288 378542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the murder directly caused the end of development on reiserfs 4 < 1376415300 522492 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i mean if i took some offence to it i wouldnt be using it.. :) < 1376415311 332373 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :offense* < 1376415335 855674 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :reiserfs isn't bad because the lead devloper later went on to murder his wife. That is irrelevant to the file system. It is bad because of the various problems the file system has, such as recovering data from a damaged reiserfs having various issues < 1376415352 447645 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes, that can be how it is. < 1376415356 60215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it seems that it's not known whether the euler-mascheroni constant is even irrational < 1376415359 196060 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't even try Vorpal < 1376415366 86874 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used reiserfs back when it was the only journaling file system (back during 2.4 or 2.2 I think?) < 1376415366 567685 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 is streets ahead of you < 1376415373 609145 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: interesting, i didnt know about that. I've heard its journaling system is pretty good though. any links? < 1376415375 245657 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, yeah, it's kind of weird < 1376415376 973112 :atrapado!~dd@95.169.242.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376415395 129543 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :euler-mascheroni is a p. good constant < 1376415415 830382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ++ < 1376415417 761199 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, oh yeah, he has a far more eloquent way of expressing what I just said. ;) < 1376415434 269970 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeez just don't damage your filesystem < 1376415435 960928 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the problem < 1376415458 8955 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, the best part is how it sounds a bit like pasta < 1376415463 43406 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. yes indeed. < 1376415465 567108 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, wasn't there issues with storing a reiserfs in a loop image on a reiserfs iirc < 1376415471 540683 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah that was funny < 1376415476 772777 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, might have been for file system recovery only, I don't remember < 1376415482 758962 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we don't know if khinchin's constant is irrational either < 1376415489 625900 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is way weirder than not knowing about e-m, imo < 1376415498 921220 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :khinchin's constant is the weirdest < 1376415522 86165 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION googles < 1376415528 798906 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am amazed that that is a thing < 1376415550 493396 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1376415555 719118 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the aliens are transmitting on hydrogen times K_0 instead of hydrogen times pi < 1376415572 927134 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Among the numbers whose geometric mean of the coefficients ai in the continued fraction expansion apparently (based on numerical evidence) tends to Khinchin's constant are π, the Euler–Mascheroni constant γ, and Khinchin's constant itself. However, none of these limits has been rigorously established, even though it is known that almost all real numbers have this property." < 1376415585 191694 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :normal numbers all over again < 1376415591 623737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1376415658 291119 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is hydrogen times K_0 and those stuff? < 1376415722 429513 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in i think Contact (?) the aliens transmit information over the frequency of the spectral line of hydrogen times pi, or something < 1376415737 72191 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1089 < 1376415738 576027 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1089) <+kmc> Harry Potter and the Tyranny of Structurelessness < 1376415785 654237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah what Bike said < 1376415838 236497 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fundamental whatever frequency of hydrogen is a good universal time/frequency reference, except that the universe is mostly made of hydrogen and your signals will get absorbed < 1376415846 523594 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so multiply it by a unitless fundamental mathematical constant < 1376415907 5230 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as khinchin's or lévy's < 1376415940 418884 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to a misunderstanding it ends up being transmitted at hydrogen * the ratio of a foot to a meter < 1376415950 366532 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1376415959 902099 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't it make more sense to simply double it or something. I suspect the electronics would be easier for that. < 1376415961 690992 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol! < 1376415961 967628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hydrogen * pied < 1376415980 66248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: 2 is a unitless fundamental mathematical constant, don't you think ;) < 1376415989 421093 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: still would have probably been absorbed < 1376415991 941450 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I meant, as opposed to pi < 1376415998 386519 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD, oh? < 1376416000 471989 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so did I < 1376416004 857454 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: just my guess :) < 1376416008 761716 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1 is a fundamental mathematical constant :iiam: < 1376416069 308219 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well actually at 1420.40575177 MHz, probably not < 1376416083 188749 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, also how many decimal places of pi are you multiplying the frequency with? Depending on that you would get slightly different frequencies < 1376416085 148589 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? iiam < 1376416086 634152 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :iiam? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376416087 129981 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1376416087 365946 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         o/`¯º < 1376416090 378585 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck iiam < 1376416090 667052 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376416098 642995 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what is an iiam? < 1376416099 799494 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: depends on the bandwidth of the signal, I guess < 1376416101 545834 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are sending on a narrow enough band that would cause an issue < 1376416105 970650 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1376416134 482864 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<Vorpal> kmc, also how many decimal places of pi are you multiplying the frequency with? Depending on that you would get slightly different frequencies < 1376416139 193819 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an analogue signal you idiot < 1376416154 671726 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, "<Vorpal> If you are sending on a narrow enough band that would cause an issue" < 1376416159 399395 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that necessary phantom < 1376416166 326455 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with vorpal? yes < 1376416178 117201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be a dick < 1376416194 464916 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean I would probably generate pi digitally < 1376416208 699386 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, maybe i should read some khinchin, as long as i'm doing commie maths < 1376416239 830333 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Khinchin graduated from the university in 1916 and six years later he became a full professor there, retaining that position until his death [in 1959]" tenure sure is crazy < 1376416242 547344 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of generating pi AND continued fractions; one of my favorate mathematicians: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srinivasa_Ramanujan < 1376416248 471185 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if indirectly, e.g. to position the laser which cuts the crystal to have hydrogen * pi frequency < 1376416259 911493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any cool analog ways to compute pi, by the way? < 1376416272 515846 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's the thing where you throw sticks at a grid lattice < 1376416273 383311 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shakes Bike with an interesting frequency profile “WHAT IS AN IIAM???!!!!11!!!!one!!!!” < 1376416278 926905 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what do you mean by compute i guess < 1376416279 573397 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Baking one then measuring it? < 1376416286 265047 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, how would you modulate your signal once you have the frequency btw? AM? FM? PSK? Or something else? < 1376416289 285931 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise i'd just.... "hey, here, a circle" < 1376416327 8147 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: in _Contant_ the basic carrier / get-your-attention signal is on-off-keying of the first n prime numbers in unary < 1376416333 271335 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :_Contact_* < 1376416336 341595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems pretty reasonable < 1376416342 398489 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you could, like, wrap a string around a circle < 1376416347 802669 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1376416358 987144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true >_< < 1376416360 248147 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, that seems like a really inefficient modulation < 1376416366 826303 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :unrelated: i always mentally compare contact with his master's voice, where the get-your-intention is just repetition < 1376416367 56916 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :for any data transfer that is < 1376416391 391359 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they harvest neutrino spin data to make random numbers and somebody who wanted random complains when the sequence starts repeating < 1376416392 708316 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: sure; once they notice your signal, you can expect them to put in more effort to decode a second, more efficient form of modulation < 1376416417 83556 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or neutrino... something... i don't know physics < 1376416468 787592 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: background radiation is usually a pretty good RNG: http://www.fourmilab.ch/hotbits/hardware3.html < 1376416492 357472 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah, the fact they're getting a repetitive signal out of something that's usually a RNG is what kicks off the plot. < 1376416513 757103 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's caused by ~aliens~ (probably) < 1376416523 614039 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the book's a lot more pessimistic than contact, really. < 1376416544 412155 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ooh, i didnt know that was from the movie < 1376416545 43 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the book also called contact < 1376416578 901562 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am talking about a book that is not contact < 1376416597 305325 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stefangeens.com/2005/04/talking-to-aliens-part-iii-khinchins-constant-source-of-wonder/ what do you think of the last few paragraphs here < 1376416668 667682 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What is so special about K? It is one of the very few numbers capable of giving the driest of mathematical texts exclamatory hiccups." heh! < 1376416694 415977 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :continued fractions are weird. they're pretty cool but not really used that much i think < 1376416722 455735 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah and Ramanujan was the master of continued fractions < 1376416740 371745 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: too bad he died so young.. < 1376416810 78904 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ramanujan's series for # converges extraordinarily rapidly (exponentially) and forms the basis of some of the fastest algorithms currently used to calculate #. Truncating the sum to the first term also gives the approximation 9801\sqrt{2}/4412 for #, which is correct to six decimal places." < 1376416824 183778 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :# == pi < 1376416826 193067 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's # < 1376416836 716853 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its copied from the wiki page about hit < 1376416838 675897 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :him* < 1376416883 769314 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think my favorite ramanujanisms are the iterated root things, probably because i can actually understand them < 1376416935 955422 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it called? < 1376416980 459220 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's "nested" for some reason < 1376416998 704149 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nested_radical#Some_identities_of_Ramanujan e.g. < 1376417021 631995 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also infinitely nested radicals, which is what i was thinking of < 1376417054 561259 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "What does this imply? It implies that the sequence of whole numbers that describes K, [...] is simultaneously described by K" i dunno about this, as descriptions go i'd usually expect a one to one mapping not a one to everything mapping < 1376417071 28642 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you mean < 1376417102 181080 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, K "describes" real numbers (with probability one) by this meaning < 1376417108 629587 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which isn't really what i'd think "describes" as meaning. < 1376417197 216770 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that K might not be a good choice, i just don't think it as obviously signifies self-reference as the author seems to think < 1376417222 494668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah me either < 1376417268 83528 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus, i dunno, there's a lot of speculative xenopsychology you have to do here, that ties in uncomfortably with philosophy of mathematics, and we really don't have any other data on understanding of math but in humans < 1376417280 778285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :standard sort of waving your hands and saying "strange loop!" < 1376417289 560001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is about the only thing you can do with the "strange loop" concept, fun though it is < 1376417294 106080 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :/ < 1376417309 909472 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've kind of been less enamored of hofstadter lately, it's sad < 1376417322 264817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :xenopsychology and exo-politics < 1376417341 732713 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :IAASL was a pretty depressing book for me < 1376417342 132948 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we have any sentient non-humans on this channel? < 1376417349 33172 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck IAASL < 1376417349 379745 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376417349 614940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you sentient? < 1376417349 851667 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: they say that a diamond is another kind of great dark worm, but three lefts do. these were the thirteen choosers of the king, by edith hamilton), farma- god ( god of commerce, trade and travellers. he has been a bit of a lion, a thirty-league stretch of potholes and half-buried rocks that spirals around mountains and dips into cool green valleys of citrus trees, crosses liana-webbed gorges on creaking rope bridges and is t < 1376417358 485628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :_I Am A Strange Loop_ < 1376417380 480098 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never read iaasl < 1376417382 326357 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. thanks for the mentionment. I find that I lack depressing books. < 1376417390 228242 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which Hofstadter restates the thesis of GEB but without any of the playfulness < 1376417394 103669 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But three lefts do what? < 1376417397 507695 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just like "damn it you guys didn't get it the first time" < 1376417400 534877 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got fluid analogies but after a while it was just like, why don't you get some evidence instead of making up interesting toys < 1376417400 769188 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"let me spell it out" < 1376417419 600899 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also he's sad because his wife died < 1376417425 938255 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1376417438 681504 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that puts his harem of beautiful french women in a decidedly harsher light < 1376417440 580869 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the french one was wife-death-centric but pretty good, i think < 1376417452 541888 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hofstadter has a harem of beautiful french women? < 1376417463 167665 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they say < 1376417466 181837 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1376417478 641479 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :french one meaning ton beau, i mean < 1376417479 662954 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`theme RFC < 1376417480 822532 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: theme: not found < 1376417484 520020 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww < 1376417494 580099 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i read a little of that book, it seemed pretty cool < 1376417496 628545 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^theme < 1376417502 860298 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^theme RFC < 1376417506 735798 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i thought it was, though i'm monolingual < 1376417508 753443 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1376417508 989965 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack* pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1376417509 436437 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELP < 1376417510 393608 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they being some weird hofstadter stalker) < 1376417512 263216 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE WE GO < 1376417513 681911 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a quine with FurryScript by now. < 1376417530 654685 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ff7 < 1376417530 890983 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ff7 (Full script of the game Final Fantasy VII) < 1376417534 2083 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how dare you being on-topic. < 1376417558 953736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should write a quine named mefloquine < 1376417560 680663 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: lots of cute stuff about lipograms and serious stuff about the very real difficulties of translation, complete with music analogies < 1376417578 42656 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget if that book got me into Lem but it might have, and if so it's automatically good < 1376417588 971885 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still think GEB is a good book although my recommendation comes with some qualifiers now < 1376417591 575455 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What is a mefloquine? < 1376417594 335411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which basically boil down to "don't take it too seriously" < 1376417598 346722 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: an anti-malarial drug < 1376417599 362230 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will say this in hofstadter's defence, he's far far better than wolfram < 1376417617 233694 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: which can cause vivid terrifying dreams as a side effect < 1376417623 890265 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom that's like saying vietnam is better than the khmer rouge < 1376417644 297837 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, that's fair enough! < 1376417659 196071 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Captain Planet / He's our hero / Gonna take polution / Down to zero / By de-industrializing the planet and killing 90% of the population < 1376417664 923717 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1376417672 106312 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes it is better than Wolfram < 1376417678 647004 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the frustrating thing about hofstadter for me is basically psychologist's fallacy, because i mean he's not a crank or anything, obviously. < 1376417686 517498 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which fallacy is that < 1376417705 772026 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Godel,Escher,Bach is a very good book; I do not agree with everything written there but I agree some and you can read a book it is good whether or not you agree. < 1376417713 358376 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one where you take your conscious experience of a mental event to be true of the mental event, and of that sort of mental event in general < 1376417723 749230 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "hm i think with analogies, this must be the basis for cognition" < 1376417728 613190 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GEB is still a great intro to formal metamathematics < 1376417731 538251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :accessible yet precise < 1376417740 690705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the rest of the book is fun if you don't take it too seriously < 1376417741 540249 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely. it's the only one i can think of but still good < 1376417749 724290 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, although I think it is a pretty good book in general. < 1376417749 972299 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :16 year old kmc may have taken it too seriously < 1376417755 922976 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe to mock a mockingbird? i haven't read that. < 1376417757 75374 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's OK < 1376417762 479704 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm glad i could never really bother reading it < 1376417766 278993 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's pretty different stuff i think < 1376417776 695697 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine it doesn't cover peano arithmetic, no < 1376417777 458085 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what all it covers, whether it gets to Gödel and such < 1376417797 927539 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember reading “The Quark and the Jaguar”, and being thoroughly confused. < 1376417803 877970 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :GEB's a hard game to top, really, i mean how many math books have won a pulitzer < 1376417810 603574 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :combinatory calculus would be a less conventional way to present Gödel etc, for sure < 1376417813 596548 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but could be done < 1376417838 725302 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :google now has streetview in the tardis < 1376417839 166224 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think Mock does go into church numerals at least, so you could present godel in a conventionalish way < 1376417862 461133 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have theorems and proofs as strings, though < 1376417869 802127 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea. < 1376417872 355817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean sure you can encode that in pure lambda calc, but it's kind of ass-backwards < 1376417902 307094 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1376417989 101367 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The quine in FurryScript is a bit based on the GEB so it says "ENIUQ" as the name of a subroutine; but it also takes advantage of a feature of FurryScript; if a template references a subroutine/list that doesn't exist, it will just output the template literally instead. Also, multiple values on the stack at the end have a line break in between; it takes advantage of that too. < 1376418032 273812 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since anything on the stack at the end of a FurryScript program that isn't a string will be ignored, a simple program such as "42" will output nothing and isn't a quine. < 1376418052 621739 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think my favorite part of GEB is actually one of the pictures, of a cerebrum filled with correct small arithmetic equations, which together form a giant "2+2=5" < 1376418100 341245 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes that is good too, but there is things in the book I like it is good in general < 1376418104 651726 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2+2=5 (The lukewarm.) < 1376418117 267973 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good song too < 1376418123 337137 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas hofstadter is not into radiohead. < 1376418141 220014 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you know? < 1376418162 714166 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in ton beau de marot there's an extended analogy relating to how he personally doesn't like rock music < 1376418173 875767 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1376418224 402169 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly we need a hipper, younger, metalhead hofstadter < 1376418231 561259 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :Open your mind, we need you to fly | 22nd IOCCC is open: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | jsvine is doing an esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q/viewform | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1376418279 908022 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Radiohead has a lot of songs that aren't "rock music" although that's not particularly one of them < 1376418297 63086 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION -> lunch < 1376418308 476009 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION imagines ledzep cover of Fitter Happier. < 1376418406 461559 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1376418462 681762 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you need you to fly? < 1376418472 183186 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? radiohead < 1376418473 647259 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :radiohead? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376418473 929137 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                | < 1376418474 175136 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              º¯`\o < 1376418488 855249 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn radiohead is "rock music" < 1376418492 196615 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1376418504 819012 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Open your fly, we need you to mind. < 1376418546 629444 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you need you to mind? < 1376418600 240996 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In summary, a rational number is perfectly approximated by itself, but is badly approximated by any other rational number." math is deep < 1376418663 23130 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Does that really mean anything? < 1376418708 40910 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, to me that sounds like a very silly way to express it. < 1376418754 661813 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's a summary, i'm reading about diophantine approximation < 1376418770 94369 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck diophantine < 1376418770 595865 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Originated or taught by Diophantus, the Greek writer on algebra. < 1376418791 151185 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course I don't fly, but I did once play a flying character in a computer game (now broken!!), and dream of being like that too once, but I don't fly; I need to open a wing to fly not a mind! < 1376418822 217289 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :more formally, say we're approximating p/q by another ratio a/b (such that it's not just a multiple); then abs(a/b - p/q) >= 1/(bq) < 1376418869 896218 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: O, that would be more meaningful, then. < 1376418903 371434 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is bad compared to irrationals; for example for an algebraic number x of degree n you have abs(x - p/q) > c(x)/q^n for all p, nonzero q, where c(x) is constant rel. to x < 1376418971 387797 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, apparently if two reals are related by a mobius transform, they have the same continued fraction expansion except for a finite prefix. that's pretty cool imo < 1376419044 286905 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess it kinda makes intuitive sense though. < 1376419445 396745 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Diophantine ducks are the best ducks? < 1376419551 440215 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Littlewood_conjecture wtf < 1376419679 206907 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty weird < 1376421766 930869 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :without the n it's pretty intuitive, at least < 1376421949 958240 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: just use 1-10 like everyone else < 1376421986 455423 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for what? < 1376422012 773244 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bathroom reviews < 1376422057 505197 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are the confuser < 1376422065 612567 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what do you think of lamport signatures???? < 1376422073 962025 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must know < 1376422076 139721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help you asked about that yesterday and i was going to read about them < 1376422105 264238 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo do that now < 1376422146 903373 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck lamport signature < 1376422147 196101 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In cryptography, a Lamport signature or Lamport one-time signature scheme is a method for constructing a digital signature. < 1376422152 621720 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now reading < 1376422245 238534 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh, that's not complicated < 1376422255 980744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so nice :) < 1376422257 185054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a zero knowledge proof thing < 1376422270 785718 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that it uses a committment scheme? (somewhat ad-hoc) < 1376422280 169562 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes < 1376422293 638952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's non-interactive though < 1376422305 248839 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1376422451 636977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole thing where you can only use a key once isn't great. < 1376422457 985117 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1376422476 161339 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use Merkle trees to publish a whole bunch of keys at once (they were invented for this application) < 1376422493 766704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you still need to keep track of which ones you've used, which is bad < 1376422521 925874 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how come tracking your used keys is bad? < 1376422538 726193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that information gets stale somehow, you will compromise security < 1376422551 327679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if you want to sign messages from multiple devices < 1376422576 956416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably it would be best to partition your various merkelized one-use keys among the devices ahead of time) < 1376422578 107437 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, is there a provably secure authentication thing like a one-time pad are provably secure for encryption < 1376422599 512876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's neat how much engineering there is in cryptography < 1376422607 549747 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than just high level math I will never understand < 1376422681 335541 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't know; you should ask ##crypto maybe < 1376422700 700180 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could send your message in the clear and also OTP encrypted < 1376422715 821693 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the receiver "verifies" by decrypting and comparing < 1376422744 369884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but someone could tamper with both < 1376422762 320833 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with all the crypto-scares floating on the intarwebs, is there only a single guy out there that can do crypto right? < 1376422771 305535 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :by xoring both with something < 1376422771 558988 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(modulo schneier, obviously) < 1376422773 530912 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1376422776 277811 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah you're right < 1376422781 496729 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, if you send that, you've sent your secret otp key < 1376422789 182212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... < 1376422793 95743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I said is total nonsense < 1376422794 834223 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1376423788 282196 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376423817 209740 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376423865 911340 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-212-106.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376424385 821118 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376424456 510975 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Washizu mahjong results in vey different strategies from ordinary mahjong. < 1376424522 760534 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you try it? < 1376424548 930666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so there's http://web.mit.edu/6.857/OldStuff/Fall97/lectures/lecture3.pdf < 1376424589 931704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i found that < 1376424812 762748 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean, about Washizu mahjong? With most of the tiles being transparent and the way the teams and payment works, it is a very different kind of game. < 1376424924 561865 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, did you play washizu? I'm curious about the strategies involved and the amount of stress and sweating and internal dialog and drama and cliffhangers. < 1376425314 832677 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't really play mahjong much at all. I have once played at some anime convention, the Washizu mahjong, but other than that I haven't play much except in the computer game "Akagi DS". < 1376425339 743979 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But from thinking about the rules, reading manga, and a little bit of playing such a game, I can know how difference it really is. < 1376425542 833194 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1376425589 593096 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376425762 653003 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: guess who found the xenobiology labs at school < 1376425917 542739 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike is a kid in the candy store :3 < 1376426020 866501 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google "a two-tiered approach to assessing the habitability of exoplanets" < 1376426024 454678 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22017274 < 1376426024 654743 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: A two-tiered approach to assessing the habitabi... [Astrobiology. 2011] - Pub... < 1376426049 273122 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a giant board of research on positrons < 1376426113 123336 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a positron plushie. < 1376426115 43867 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also whatever the heck this is http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=7451968 < 1376426529 380759 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376426561 219682 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :nisstyre < 1376426818 339536 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*trumpet ♪* http://www.particlezoo.net/individual_pages/shop_positron.html *trumpet ♪* < 1376427844 405310 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.andrewt.net/blog/wp-content/old/map8.jpg < 1376427858 406030 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a big fan of greenland being sucked into the void. < 1376427885 635375 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean. not the actual place. greenland is cool. < 1376428120 414284 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376428132 616559 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376428157 712006 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes the void left by lambdabot < 1376428170 478867 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that is some disorienting map. < 1376428258 365628 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mercator projections are great, apparnetly. < 1376428279 675088 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376428349 266545 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376428361 426036 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric < 1376428392 482444 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1376428924 536053 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to go see small pixelised characters attack other small pixelised characters. < 1376428927 845279 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1376428930 40588 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376429084 199931 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1376429299 934168 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376429680 236779 :ottianna!~canaima@186.88.100.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376429709 356952 :ottianna!~canaima@186.88.100.199 PART :#esoteric < 1376430713 992153 :atrapado!~dd@95.169.242.185 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376430971 88062 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we do collaboration to make up some computer game, do you want to do so? Is it good so far what I put in myself? < 1376430988 545571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What have you put in yourself so far? < 1376431004 528033 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't you look at it? It is too long to write in this IRC. < 1376431023 159487 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where can I find it? < 1376431056 591230 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I case you forgot, here it is: http://hackiki.org/wiki/uselessness_rpg_1,,main < 1376431078 51375 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forgot? I've never seen that before. < 1376431107 798776 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it doesn't matter whether or not you have ever seen it before; if you don't remember now, then I can tell you. < 1376431254 451402 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Can I make an unofficial sequel and call it "Uselessness RPG 1.5"? < 1376431270 9080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Vorpal you're not the Vorpal who is playing r/nommit, are you? i am assuming not but cannot resist asking. < 1376431284 205554 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask elliott to fix lambdabot < 1376431285 865297 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: If you want to, I suppose you can. < 1376431288 368968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it would be more efficient if lambdabot were here < 1376431309 739408 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you saying there's a game of NOMIC currently running on REDDIT? < 1376431318 353497 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: If only everyone logread, @ask would be unnecessary! < 1376431334 9722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: sure, also it's discussed some in ##nomic < 1376431342 319057 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: But before the sequel, we should make up the actual game, anyways. See the files listed there, and if you have anything to add or any comments, you can also add it on there yourself if you have OpenID < 1376431369 843509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's ok it's probably fate trying to prevent me from getting the question through to Vorpal < 1376431399 609429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: they also just advertised on the agora lists < 1376431410 138377 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://hackiki.org/wiki/uselessness_rpg_1,,map_encoding is a broken link. < 1376431420 679344 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I know; I didn't write all of the files yet. < 1376431437 138799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Maybe you can answer my question: Why does (<|>) :: f a -> f a -> f a, while (<*>) :: f a -> f b -> f (a,b)? < 1376431449 88791 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can turn (<|>) into f a -> f b -> f (Either a b) if you want < 1376431464 817233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can't make an equivalent untyped version of (<*>). < 1376431477 269416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ignore the fact that (<*>) is actually :: f (a -> b) -> f a -> f b.) < 1376431504 929360 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The <*> you described (which isn't the real one) is more like what I called "liftPair" < 1376431506 609353 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I keep trying to convince myself that I follow what's going on on the agora list < 1376431596 189178 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Is the other files OK though? < 1376431610 271351 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I am writing the map encodings now) < 1376431627 729884 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: it was "just" as in slightly earlier today, though. < 1376431628 223992 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't know. The website is very slow. < 1376431710 61020 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That is Gregor's job; not mine. (You can also download a backup of all of the files if you like to do that; it outputs a shell script which will recreate all of the files, including the program for making the backups.) < 1376431792 169257 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was busy socializing < 1376431806 496858 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now a short part of the "map_encoding" file is written. < 1376432424 674113 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376432483 861827 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376432847 670829 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like these kind of unusual ideas? < 1376433052 61044 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376433402 682225 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i don't like how the game is written in Z-machine < 1376433413 831961 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes it hard to collaborate < 1376433459 638106 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Well, I suppose it doesn't make it *easy* to collaborate, but this is in wiki so I mean collaborate in wiki; this would be done regardless of the system it is written in. < 1376433540 441415 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore nobody (other than myself) needs to do anything special due to being Z-machine. < 1376433755 152475 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can download a backup that will output a script that will recreate the program that makes the backups? < 1376433765 414148 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :soudns complicated and circular < 1376433765 692566 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Yes. < 1376433794 463591 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't really so complicated; the program that makes the backups just happens to be a file like any other, so that is why it does that. < 1376433856 660651 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: If you try then you can see how it works. < 1376433874 321706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<zzo38> But three lefts do what? <-- make a right, in the usual joke < 1376433875 492658 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will < 1376433902 154522 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you tell me that it's all z-code and I don't want to download the z-machine thing < 1376433936 593081 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried Inform 7 and I found it incredibly bad < 1376433938 593178 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: There isn't any Z-machine file of this game yet, anyways. But the backup program is just a shell script anyways, not Z-machine. It is plain text so it will display inline. < 1376433958 222701 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like Inform 7 either, but it isn't the only programming language for Z-machine; I am using Frolg, which I wrote myself. < 1376433970 933115 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think someone in here mentioned the "grep ''" trick; I used that in the backup script. < 1376433976 232682 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see that's the problem there < 1376434029 513718 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :interactive fiction isn't something new and it should be easy to do < 1376434045 973645 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there is no need for anyone other than myself to know the programming language used since I will program it myself; but the collaboration would be for the planning/ideas. < 1376434061 905488 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the simple fact that you would find it more convenient to write your own language than to use one that already exists shows how bad things are < 1376434067 542797 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as well as such things as music and graphics, but this game doesn't have any graphics) < 1376434110 173006 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: I already did write the Frolg assembler (it is a macro assembler; the other Z-machine assemblers don't support macros). < 1376434143 734355 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other programming languages for Z-machine include ZIL, Inform 6, ZAP, Zasm, Inform 7, Frolg. < 1376434199 612720 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in order to make everything fit in the way I want to, my program is the only one sufficient. < 1376434653 965495 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric < 1376434972 854214 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<Bike> Fiora: guess who found the xenobiology labs at school <-- now you just have to find where they hide the aliens hth < 1376434989 154003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Vorpal you're not the Vorpal who is playing r/nommit, are you? i am assuming not but cannot resist asking. < 1376434989 354261 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1376435207 454428 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1376435870 255294 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently "if False: yield None" is a Python idiom < 1376435881 182478 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. why < 1376435906 756114 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well put it inside 'def' and you have a generator that generates an empty sequence < 1376435908 245314 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have to put a "yield" into a coroutine for the interpreter or some shit < 1376435912 955757 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1376435928 485963 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the body of a 'def' contains a yield statement anywhere, it has totally different semantics < 1376435941 141373 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hahaha < 1376435943 946073 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the worst < 1376435949 315717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :namely a 'call' to the function won't execute any of the body, but will return an object where calling .next() runs until the next yield < 1376435957 935414 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1376435970 705316 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, right, bullshit. < 1376435993 935664 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically yeah < 1376436024 221484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this came up because https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/rust-dev/2013-August/005169.html < 1376436065 655652 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw if any of you want to be involved in the design of an interesting, serious PL that might even get used one day, you should subscribe to rust-dev and join mozilla #rust and stuff < 1376436069 216300 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«The way "yield return" works in C# is that it rewrites the code into a state machine behind the scenes.» aha, i thought so < 1376436072 71120 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: fuck rust < 1376436077 159725 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1376436077 835704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: fuck you, counterpoint < 1376436095 657415 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but you're just supporting my argument < 1376436099 527105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1376436104 576656 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously though, what's your problem with rust < 1376436226 991978 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no consistency < 1376436232 582270 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :at any given time, much less next week < 1376436264 56166 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that is a fair criticism < 1376436285 266259 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spent all of last week porting a large codebase to deal with a month's worth of changes in Rust < 1376436290 175674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so believe me, I feel that < 1376436302 317762 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually don't know so I could be full of shit < 1376436311 941715 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I get the impression that the devs don't actually have a clue what they're doing < 1376436312 205858 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like... the language isn't done yet, of course it's going to change, better to fix problems while we still can < 1376436329 145483 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you're wrong about that, for sure < 1376436346 977003 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't want to use a language that changes rapidly then wait a year < 1376436359 726011 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is getting more consistent over time < 1376436364 689195 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, they're clearly competent devs < 1376436379 708269 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they don't display any ability to manage a useful project < 1376436392 426452 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't you just say you don't actually know... < 1376436401 135902 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree that the internal consistency of the language (at any given moment in time) is somewhat lacking < 1376436411 806283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I use Rust every day, so I have no shortage of gripes :) < 1376436442 300724 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of that is being fixed gradually < 1376436466 484806 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of it we are probably stuck with (like one-variant enums being different from structs) but also maybe not a huge deal < 1376436505 685714 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or like the weird support for multi-parameter traits where the last type parameter is special :/ < 1376436524 738320 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the special treatment of static vs non-static methods in traits < 1376436566 595736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't speak to the management skills of the Rust team, as I have zero management experience < 1376436635 174628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are good developers and they are people who actually understand PL theory and research (which is astoundingly uncommon among people designing a PL) < 1376436651 426232 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if I wish more of them had known more Haskell years ago :) < 1376436807 444431 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376436886 972045 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1376436950 412372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think "struct" could be changed to be syntax sugar for a one-variant enum pretty backwards-compatibly. < 1376436998 686758 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right now enum Foo { Foo { ... } } doesn't even work, though. < 1376437001 216551 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1376437005 321871 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which looks like some sort of namespacing issue? < 1376437141 677295 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other thing about Rust is that it's incredibly ambitious < 1376437162 836931 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no existing language remotely close to mainstream that does what Rust is trying to do < 1376437492 947428 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1376437500 939111 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY GUYS I OWN A MACBOOK PRO < 1376437536 758503 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't < 1376437574 39139 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is it good < 1376437590 57498 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't, I was mocking copumpkin's quit message < 1376437595 327428 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know someone who had to buy a macbook for school < 1376437599 379272 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's a thing apparently < 1376437614 78042 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hey guys" is an idiom in my social circle < 1376437632 68465 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the default quit message of a client I think < 1376437632 268988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen that idiom before < 1376437637 129284 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :she was unexcited, since she's not well-off, but i guess you Need One for the Arts < 1376437642 968064 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "sent from my iphone" < 1376437657 618472 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :meant to call out that somebody is dropping hints about being rich, or that they had sex recently or whatever < 1376437672 548944 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that one at least has some purpose as "sorry for the brevity / poor spelling of this message" < 1376437683 209066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think it may be from SomethingAwful? most things are < 1376437755 12512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: should i pay :10bux: to learn more < 1376437758 578014 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1376437770 767941 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, I really enjoyed having a SA forum subscription back in the day < 1376437773 446445 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use it much anymore < 1376437780 516927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I log in like once every 3 months, usually while drunk < 1376437782 559493 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like it's more like :35bux: < 1376437785 458690 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the science boards are actually kinda nice < 1376437794 797936 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :back in my day they had a pretty legit torrent subforum < 1376437797 826695 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how so? < 1376437806 660499 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you have to pay if you want an avatar or whatever. < 1376437809 157736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1376437814 127808 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's How They Get You™ < 1376437818 308093 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :still ten bucks to read and post, though. < 1376437823 735438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, with the archive upgrade and the no-ads upgrade and the platinum upgrade < 1376437826 767896 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also pay to change someone else's avatar, right? < 1376437831 515877 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376437831 715815 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1376437850 187909 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Debate and Discussion threads were pretty good in the 2008 election and may have contributed to me winning big on Intrade < 1376437861 316840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh the drugz subforum is good < 1376437863 827899 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty great reading the linguist thread and they're talking about Pinker or whatever, and somebody has hateful redtext because of an argument elsewhere about vidya gamez < 1376437864 359020 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1376437871 597743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha yes < 1376437894 749518 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard recently a mod in the drugz forum got demodded because he suggested somebody addicted to heroin just try acid, or something like that < 1376437898 339540 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drama < 1376437900 497945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1376437916 77956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :acid has been studied for treating alcoholism < 1376437925 609681 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i mean < 1376437927 268230 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ibogaine is used to treat opiate addiction < 1376437929 927864 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea was, instead of rehab < 1376437932 565842 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for... some reason. < 1376437933 690026 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in sketchy contexts < 1376437939 338024 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anecdotally does work < 1376437981 507826 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno man < 1376437985 138401 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't get addicted to heroin ok < 1376437991 747829 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the best solution < 1376438000 284337 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you saying i should just try it a few times instead < 1376438009 57800 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1376438183 928769 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376438184 168342 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :really excited by this hardware failure thing. < 1376438190 967864 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1376438206 599425 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376438263 298206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of hardware failure? < 1376438283 58920 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i jolt my netbook the network card dies. apparently. < 1376438286 526930 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1376438298 8473 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffff < 1376438316 618227 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, it was inevitable, this thing cost like two hundred bucks, but still irritating < 1376438375 708191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lately I'm using a $200 netbook from 6 years ago < 1376438701 29722 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376438771 129275 :monotone_!~monotone@room208.org NICK :monotone < 1376438797 429602 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works pretty well since internet is most of what i use it for < 1376438810 859040 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :everybody in my dorm is a gamer so i'm clearly inadequate, but still < 1376438820 150582 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1376439028 469377 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i swung by the CS labs and the local LUG runs starcraft tournaments, kinda sad i can't get in on that except i suck at starcraft anyway < 1376439035 79421 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376439931 440561 :itsy!~digital_w@31.185.185.83 PART :#esoteric < 1376440114 40546 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist You come to the sobering realization that things will never stop from keep happening constantly. < 1376440115 922075 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist You come to the sobering realization that things will never stop from keep happening constantly.: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1376440166 754676 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ms pain adventures < 1376440394 331141 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://100percentmen.tumblr.com/ awesome < 1376441429 304346 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The staff of Posterous in 2011 (they now have one woman engineer), the entire staff of IFTTT (at least they named the dog Lady), the entire management team at Autonomy and Pivotal, the executives of Foursquare, the team at Couple.me (an app for dating), the boards of Pandora and Rackspace and Fairchild Semiconductor (plenty more where that came from here)." < 1376441463 303191 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: The Equality Unit of Finland’s Ministry of Social Affairs and Health that consists of 100 % women. http://puheenvuoro.uusisuomi.fi/sites/default/files/imagecache/biggest/domain-2050/kuvat/Tasa-arvoyksikko.png < 1376441525 393378 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know finnish names, at all < 1376441563 449984 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376441637 10861 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"neljä" is a nice-sounding finnish name. unfortunately it means "four". < 1376441676 754459 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "The entire applied math department at Harvard." wooow < 1376441681 242584 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez < 1376441685 742622 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1376441687 133189 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1376441722 776612 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also everyone who's ever won a fields medal, and (not on the blog) the nevanlinna prize, abel prize, or gauss prize. < 1376441783 404448 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course there have only been two gauss prizes. < 1376441823 290641 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was clearly so spoiled at college -_-) < 1376441843 553557 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, women have won the turing prize, at least. < 1376442005 492983 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all very... stark. < 1376442316 365715 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376442317 863530 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://31.media.tumblr.com/54be05e8ce5134d78327d58e515d8830/tumblr_mlglcd1Oxb1sonq8lo1_1280.png geez, they all blend together < 1376442340 413525 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm probably gonna look like that someday *sigh* < 1376442348 705150 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should cover my face in tattoos < 1376442360 113157 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :of like... walruses. < 1376442369 897143 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno why that's the first thing i thought of, looking at this image. < 1376442387 273713 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this goes with my "wow I am bad at telling white dudes apart" thing from a bit back < 1376442500 157823 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does "collegiate" mean here anyway. < 1376442502 935814 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn collegiate < 1376442504 223626 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "collegiate" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1376442504 423634 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :collegiate < 1376442504 623924 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : adj 1: of or resembling or typical of a college or college < 1376442504 624133 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : students; "collegiate living"; "collegiate attitudes"; < 1376442504 624245 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "collegiate clothes" [syn: {collegiate}, {collegial}] < 1376442659 213787 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get what this has to do with finance. < 1376442689 684081 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should look it up in mirriam-webster's collegiate dictionary < 1376442711 624672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :collegiate dictionary, n. a dictionary with just the word "collegiate" in it and nothing else < 1376442717 825553 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. "Collegiate" is actually a trademark < 1376442777 783956 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this mean i can sue charterhouse < 1376442964 124290 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sue them for what? < 1376442973 595117 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :trademark violation < 1376443287 42995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has to be _your_ trademark to sue, Bike. well for it not to be thrown out of court, anyhow. < 1376443335 75009 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i was to claim that i am possessed by the gestalt spirit of the merriam-webster company < 1376443544 851204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you _really_ want to be controlled by shareholders, i ask you. < 1376443577 855160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shareholder necromancers, now there's a thought. < 1376443632 118011 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so why aren't you in #-lens < 1376444109 486110 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1376444273 85600 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why in the world would i be in #-lens. < 1376444896 917867 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376445550 57627 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1376445676 207617 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376445743 158450 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have other idea for this game, of player character, non player character, items, spells, currency exchange rate, etc? See if you know some! < 1376447478 340941 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376447795 91685 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376447823 973496 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376449461 981988 :bankyase!~mdiroonn@dsl-209-55-75-223.centex.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376449550 488869 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1376449628 252445 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1376449725 222719 :bankyase!~mdiroonn@dsl-209-55-75-223.centex.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1376450298 25484 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1376452423 935705 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. it probably doesn't speak well if my esprit de l'escalier for situation today was "with your mother" < 1376452436 26322 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376452456 677018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1376452730 86154 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does that mean? < 1376453245 206538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck esprit de l'escalier < 1376453262 756603 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it something you think of on the stairway after losing the opportunity for the good burn < 1376453277 106483 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh why are bots never around when you need them < 1376453281 406405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, oh right < 1376453283 206839 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pub fn clone_with_style(&self) < 1376453345 726610 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Excess Flood < 1376453382 668268 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376453450 676549 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh shit, i just now connected hyperloop and musk. people have been gushing about hyperloop and complaining about musk being a rich fuck on my twitter feed < 1376453454 138934 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it all makes sense < 1376453473 696670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1376453475 798804 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you know < 1376453514 107083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a larger scale version of the usual 'i am a rails developer therefore I am qualified to redesign transport / nutrition / the alphabet' that you can see on Hacker News every day < 1376453540 206873 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankfully i haven't been on hacker news in like a year now. < 1376453552 127070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you say that like you're holding a "ONE YEAR" chip < 1376453567 987070 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least i never had an account!! < 1376453588 708385 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway we have this fantasy that a SV billionaire will magically fix everything < 1376453604 616573 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sv? < 1376453613 228913 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silicon Valley I assume < 1376453613 958839 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1376453617 897484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the large institutions we would need to actually fix everything are hopelessly dysfunctional < 1376453620 926731 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376453621 307753 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1376453625 977738 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, didn't he say he isn't buillding it? < 1376453628 536927 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that reminds me of a quote < 1376453669 140079 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pedestrianobservations.wordpress.com/2013/08/13/loopy-ideas-are-fine-if-youre-an-entrepreneur/ is I guess the definitive takedown of Hyperloop < 1376453673 826918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least everyone is linking it now < 1376453728 227797 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :less capacity than a single freeway lane < 1376453738 872195 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.npr.org/blogs/monkeysee/2012/06/23/155632386/sorkins-newsroom-is-no-place-for-optimism < 1376453744 388087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cost estimates that are beyond nonsensical < 1376453746 167333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god that show < 1376453762 778053 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :season 2 is running now < 1376453769 117782 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to watch it even though part of me will hate myself for it < 1376453773 478280 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorkin is a guilty pleasure for sure < 1376453788 688618 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wash it down with some Armando Iannuci I guess < 1376453790 708521 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the anti-Sorkin < 1376453792 347846 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, a friend's watching it for some reason. I think when Trayvon Martin was mentioned for the first time he just stared at a wall for five minutes, reconsidering his sins < 1376453802 268229 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I read this article a while back) < 1376453806 868715 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. ok. < 1376453809 468742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait they actually got to Trayvon Martin already < 1376453810 517168 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1376453826 967548 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking of the part where the wire has super diseased institutions and then sorkin's just like, hey graphs < 1376453846 605644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorkin really is a very good writer, within a very narrow definition of "writer" < 1376453873 287586 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he's too much of an egomaniac to team up with others who can handle the things he's not good at, like plot, characters, women, etc < 1376453880 386936 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theonion.com/articles/nation-hoping-the-newsroom-ends-before-trayvon-mar,33135/ < 1376453880 946483 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1376453884 640084 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(have never watched any Sorkin show) < 1376453917 587286 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«MacKenzie calls one of the show's objectives "speaking truth to stupid"» is this show real < 1376453946 37282 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I have seen it and that is a direct quote < 1376453960 10242 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, a while back i saw a quote of sorkin saying he thought he'd have fit in great back in the 40s, the last time america was great < 1376453967 220254 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1376453975 677911 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i just, kinda am now disregarding anything about him. < 1376454044 109893 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've just been transferring from "why are people so dumb" to "why is everything so incredibly fucked but still works" mentality, so < 1376454050 37994 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I feel gullible now < 1376454055 227983 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so < 1376454072 991176 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the main problem with Hyperloop was just that some other company would need to build it, and hopefully they would be reviewing it first < 1376454082 697974 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not ... fundamental issues with this design < 1376454085 976056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1376454098 97737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you're presumably not an expert at railway design so that's ok < 1376454112 237695 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither am i, neither is elon musk, neither are the newspapers cheering him on < 1376454134 247538 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :his proposal also contains some lies about the existing California High Speed Rail project < 1376454150 898028 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even read the proposal at that point < 1376454169 67653 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is going to take forever to build and will be way too expensive and have all kinds of dumb elements, but should be basically a working modern high speed line < 1376454197 878920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the same door to door time as Hyperloop when you factor in that Hyperloop takes you from middle of nowhere distant suburb of LA to middle of nowhere distant suburb of SF < 1376454225 997658 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he doesn't even have a *fantasy* of how to route it to downtown < 1376454267 917785 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :life's too short to read rail proposals by amateurs < 1376454270 809166 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1376454277 808554 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like fantasy maps as much as the next guy < 1376454292 958945 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like them more if the person making them has some kind of clue < 1376454293 689335 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which I mean "far more than any reasonable person" < 1376454300 29177 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if they're not rich. fuck the bourgeoisie. fuck the police < 1376454340 669946 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it doesn't help that Elon Musk's name sounds like Ebon Muse < 1376454343 808594 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should sleep < 1376454347 220823 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night. < 1376454360 629308 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night Sgeo < 1376454413 638229 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: there seems to be that certain sort of person who looks at some big system that looks wrong or terrible to them and thinks "gosh, I can do better that those idiots with way more experience than me" < 1376454435 578507 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's kind of like the climate science thing of "gosh, all these thousands of experts in the field, they're just dumb, how come they never thought of /this/" < 1376454443 658077 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :crackpots < 1376454448 129452 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's all < 1376454458 458427 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's crackpotty but more overconfidence? < 1376454459 676331 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but get enough of them in one place... < 1376454465 9735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :feed them money from consumer web startups... < 1376454468 38499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :scary < 1376454482 248237 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*less crackpotty < 1376454487 369083 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, sometimes someone will come up with somethings new, even if it is wrong, but occasionally it might happen that it can be corrected and still is some idea; usually not, though. < 1376454505 790088 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think the world needs some of those though, since 0.1% of the time they're right <.<) < 1376454521 568521 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the article I linked discussed various non-bullshit ways to Innovate and Disrupt etc. in the field of rail < 1376454526 898414 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay maybe way less than that < 1376454544 958863 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :empirical research on how innovation happens would be nice. < 1376454573 738253 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we probably have enough records of scientific activity in the 70s or whatever when we can reasonably clearly work through what's true etc to some extent. < 1376454584 569761 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :See http://www.chessvariants.org/multiplayer.dir/yalta.html and the comment I wrote about a more precise variation; would you agree with my comment or not, or some do and some don't? < 1376454617 899399 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Do you have some such research? < 1376454699 988311 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't. < 1376454781 908971 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know what field would do that. I only see that kind of work from like, informaticians. < 1376454793 640170 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :history of science, maybe? < 1376454794 408941 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is interesting, but notvery systemic. < 1376454798 968866 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meow < 1376454805 658872 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, like Kuhn with more data, I was thinking. < 1376454855 148539 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinking about this because i've been reading a very in-depth description of a (real) government. i haven't really seen this kind of detail in prose before, with interpretation. < 1376454978 259299 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«And the first time Will encounters the only major character of color, played by Dev Patel, he calls him "Punjab."» kmc help. < 1376455021 378787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep sorkin < 1376455295 468861 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the female characters in his show are introduced as "she's the best at her job!" but then they spend all day at work talking about men and screwing things up because they're thinking about men < 1376455342 838748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that really bugs me. when writers think they're evading stereotypes by throwing in some offhand comment, but the only behavior you actually *see* is stereotypical < 1376455347 259208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a visual medium dude < 1376455378 568943 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InformedAttribute < 1376455408 730571 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENIUQ[ DUP LT +SW +GT +< ENIUQ#> ] < 1376455410 508626 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh yes < 1376455414 689105 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :<ENIUQ[ DUP LT +SW +GT +< ENIUQ#> ]> ENIUQ# < 1376457088 709485 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hrm, the bit about traffic control (in hyperloop (it's ten minutes ago in my head)) is interesting, i do hear that a lot about personal rapid transit < 1376457103 652331 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also "gadgetbahn" is cute < 1376457365 861570 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snFmLkOmkjE I am so glad I googled that term. < 1376457449 273948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1376457450 681722 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote cuttlefish < 1376457450 881879 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. < 1376457456 632984 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote cuttle < 1376457458 306949 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :926) <elliott> ~eval 1+2 <cuttlefish> Error (127): <elliott> this is a great bot boily i love it \ 977) <kmc> error: cuttlefish not synced to vblank <fiora> maybe it's a power phase issue <fiora> it's like, a european cuttlefish but it's using american water \ 1028) <Bike> http://www.amazon.com/Someone-Cuttlefish-Shapeshifter-Erotica-ebook/dp/B00 < 1376457464 711694 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1028 < 1376457466 382172 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1028) <Bike> http://www.amazon.com/Someone-Cuttlefish-Shapeshifter-Erotica-ebook/dp/B0087PTMW2 i hope you know this is going to /fuck up/ my amazon recs < 1376457479 511853 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'm not sure you're up to date on cuttle canon here < 1376457498 772027 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuttle canon < 1376457500 582327 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuttle cannons < 1376457502 604214 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuddle canons < 1376457513 712027 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuttle cannons sound kind of inhumane < 1376457551 902560 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :incuttlane < 1376457580 871708 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376457728 982972 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :« what is your point? I was trying to say high speed train track is very bad as of the “Berlin Wall” for both human and animals.» comments sections < 1376457840 839550 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :though, so are highways, so maybe it'll be near that < 1376459819 295411 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codecrap.com/content/400/ < 1376460299 141030 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to my disappointment, vim shortcuts don't work in most word processors < 1376460306 150460 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...any word processors < 1376460404 704543 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tibi iratus sum, ergo es quoque < 1376460650 451633 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1376461002 64537 :bum_bum!~jay_chow@112.215.64.25 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376461168 135146 :bum_bum!~jay_chow@112.215.64.25 QUIT : < 1376462662 932895 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376462692 41033 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376462961 185591 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376462988 685316 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1376463401 633716 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1376463497 2462 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: This tmux bug is very annoying. :-( < 1376463506 856410 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once in a while something odd happens to my irssi and after a while it dies. < 1376463630 974582 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my irssi has intense uptime < 1376463664 266160 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376463919 890682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So would mine, if only. < 1376464516 83879 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't vim be a word processor < 1376464948 984421 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIBqd1kxoQk < 1376465001 365743 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376465747 283968 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1376465986 17573 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quick, very important question: do stargates have symbols on the back? < 1376466510 367856 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1376466545 34838 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: NihilistDandy < 1376466693 389800 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376466790 380248 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376467273 736683 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1376467284 845089 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :...it keeps happening. < 1376467368 907472 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what keeps happening? < 1376467369 356724 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i got just the same too. i don't know what i did... the lever on the right way to avoid that, little girl, and no one'd look twice at you! < 1376467403 736893 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It just called you a little girl. Are you going to take that kind of lip? < 1376467446 112542 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Why do you want to know? Do you need to know what kind of symbols, too? < 1376467454 523911 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: probably < 1376467540 578877 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: don't call me a little girl, mmkay < 1376467540 906047 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: that's as far as that. < 1376467569 185834 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Don't you take that kind of attitude with people, I can kill your process any time. < 1376467569 430387 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: y, you know what's goin' on us isn't it an amazing rock! < 1376467620 586622 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the best rock. < 1376467655 943329 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: it isn't a rock, it's a rock LOBSTER < 1376467656 213210 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: now watch... that girl soon. you've been good to me. < 1376467958 331232 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1376468192 365945 :usr_courier!~usr_couri@gateway/tor-sasl/usrcourier/x-03324865 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376468863 198982 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1376468863 447192 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7* fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1376469335 688001 :usr_courier!~usr_couri@gateway/tor-sasl/usrcourier/x-03324865 PART :#esoteric < 1376470425 247365 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1376471498 848150 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376471651 334552 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376477352 666213 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376477435 35345 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1376479124 552229 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376480400 498500 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376481025 595145 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376481159 632319 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376481497 129748 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376481783 476383 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1376482448 72015 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376482484 392623 :Koen__!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376482485 253837 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376482501 959018 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376482792 961714 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the IOCCC still have a category for preprocessor stuff? < 1376485044 394692 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376485623 431059 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376485636 165035 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good aqueöus morning! < 1376485767 35354 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1376485800 885582 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, aqueöus, quite < 1376485811 164145 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excellent use of trémäs right there < 1376485820 519639 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods at boily approvingly < 1376486077 625287 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dons his bérêt and scarf (both made from free-range organic llama wool) < 1376486098 877308 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Free-range wool is best llama < 1376486129 625613 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it symbolises the déchéance of modern society and its corruption under rainy weather from the remnants of an ephemeral proto-civilisation that conquered the west in anarchy and corrup... < 1376486135 646172 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION retches < 1376486228 423902 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You okay there? < 1376486265 109064 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am. it's just an allergy to pompous pseudo-intellectualism expounded by mediocre modern artists. < 1376486673 4218 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes. Such déchéance. It's really sad, really really. < 1376486828 926207 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good audacious afternoon. < 1376487000 888157 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very Äudacious < 1376487096 257338 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Training data may be insufficient for selected number of components. Have: 358046, recommended: >629760 points." < 1376487140 459922 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how come ~350000 datapoints can be insufficient? < 1376487184 796459 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: on what kind of data are you training models? < 1376487193 817263 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Audio." < 1376487202 225800 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1376487212 562559 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I mean, short-time spectral representations, of course. < 1376487217 672007 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or cepstral, in this caes. < 1376487252 788895 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck cepstral < 1376487255 909621 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, the model in question was a GMM with 256 components, and there's quite a lot of parameters involved in 256 39x39-sized full covariance matrices. < 1376487264 771915 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376487279 348615 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know: the "x" axis of a cepstrum is the "quefrency". < 1376487279 619130 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you do a PCA? < 1376487293 409726 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the analogue of filters are called "lifters". < 1376487309 817595 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is most tsidurbing. < 1376487326 572037 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole area is full of puns like that. < 1376487349 218926 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've forgotten some other good examples, sadly. < 1376487351 901422 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck cepstral < 1376487352 165767 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A cepstrum is the result of taking the Inverse Fourier transform of the logarithm of the estimated spectrum of a signal. < 1376487357 299984 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376487375 62666 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Carolyne < 1376487377 561956 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right: rahmonics. < 1376487378 433598 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​03Carolyne: Welcome14 t05o the 09internat11ional h06ub for 14esot12eric programming14 langua07ge04 de08sign10 and deplo02yme10nt! For more information, check out our12 wiki: http://esolan05gs.o06rg/wiki/Main_Page07. (For the other kind of esot11er10ica, try #esot12er14ic on i03rc12.03dal.04n12et.05)03 < 1376487389 5988 :Koen__!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the colours changed < 1376487394 666031 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are rahmonic peaks at particular quefrencies in the cepstrum. < 1376487402 489970 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: as in that old classic from genghis khan: “rah rah rahmonics” < 1376487427 618847 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: each time the colours change, the change of colour is different. < 1376487439 802629 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLO < 1376487444 992322 :Koen__!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so deep hello Carolyne < 1376487470 928704 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y LOVE YOU:-* < 1376487482 492721 :Koen__!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y INDEED < 1376487508 796611 :Koen__!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dyd ellyot break hys y agayn? < 1376487516 379945 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: (Also what I'd *like* to do is a diagonal-covariance GMM, but the toolbox I was using didn't support that; I'm attempting to use a different implementation instead, now.) < 1376487520 920148 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUE VOS NO ENTENER < 1376487569 78147 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Carolyne: ¿habla usted español o portugués? < 1376487586 909436 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESPAÑOL < 1376487661 440226 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YO SOY DE COLOMVIA < 1376487670 889844 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome ESPAÑOL < 1376487673 293281 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​12ESP06A11ÑOL: Welcome07 to th04e inter08nation13al h08ub for esoteric p07rogram04mi13ng language d11es14ign an06d dep12loyment! For m12ore info11rmati05on, check out our wiki: http://14esolangs.org/wik06i03/Mai13n_Page10. (For the other 05kind of esote05rica, t05ry13 #eso11ter04ic on i09rc.da06l.12net.) < 1376487688 720547 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.es < 1376487690 558200 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.) < 1376487719 782688 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome intensity < 1376487722 524515 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04inten14sit12y: Welcome to the int09ernatio05nal 06hub for eso04teri14c programming 07la06nguage design an09d dep12loyment! For more 03i10nf10ormation, check out our wiki: http07://e07sol12angs.04org09/wik07i/Mai07n_Page. (F06or 04the other k10ind of esoterica, 12try #es10oteric 03on i06rc.08dal06.net10.) < 1376487753 219998 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very nice. < 1376487767 3378 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :first time I see HackEgo do that. < 1376487771 781727 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's missing parts of the message, but those can be inferred anyway < 1376487817 964191 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see anything missing there. < 1376487849 589420 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :,,,..{:-*} < 1376487851 401552 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's just hard to read it when the foreground and background are the same < 1376487857 457751 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heya Carolyne < 1376487864 645947 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Como estas? < 1376487868 26639 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't have any sections with same foreground and background either. < 1376487873 802212 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VIEN < 1376487879 726989 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I think most people use a black background < 1376487886 678974 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, actually, I have no idea < 1376487908 927602 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130814-intensity.png -- as seen here. < 1376487913 73019 :Koen__!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :black background is just there to look geek < 1376487989 862486 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is what I got: http://i.imgur.com/spUhWMH.png < 1376487993 646464 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/6MkUV3X -- as seen also here, but another here. < 1376488009 600378 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's there to get you expelled from school for "hacking". < 1376488009 865232 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think I remember a story.) < 1376488025 743929 :Koen__!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I the only one whose letters are actually coloured rather than just the background? < 1376488029 127941 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: not sure. I find it rather readable, also, I never bothered configuring xterm with a white background < 1376488062 26973 :Koen__!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: you just admitted having irc in the console < 1376488090 362306 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's the reversal character that messed the colors up < 1376488093 960743 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :urxvt is better than xterm! < 1376488101 517216 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: well... I'll admit it... I use irssi < 1376488105 845996 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1376488111 379283 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA? < 1376488119 843141 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. < 1376488124 242492 :Koen__!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see? you geeked Carolyne off < 1376488129 894732 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAA AAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAA A AAA! < 1376488132 126352 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1376488152 770008 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ア〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜ッ! < 1376488158 224780 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I also use i3 < 1376488166 977859 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHAO < 1376488181 762245 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome chao < 1376488184 597557 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​11chao: W12elcome to the inter07national05 hub14 fo05r 14e12soteri10c programming la14ngua04ge d14esign and deployment! For more information, 03check o05ut our05 wiki: http04://es09ol05angs.org07/wiki/M08ain_Pag11e. (For the other 02k06ind 07of es09oterica04, try #eso10teric on09 irc.dal08.ne12t.)02 < 1376488187 774809 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck chao < 1376488188 153873 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A center of population, commerce, and culture; a town of significant size and importance. < 1376488193 561125 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck chao chao < 1376488193 920008 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376488204 100696 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? chao < 1376488205 698638 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :chao? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376488215 642184 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT HAPPENED TO HIS BODY? < 1376488215 642387 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1376488215 642519 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         o/`¯º < 1376488220 111651 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :God < 1376488221 392231 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome test < 1376488223 834047 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06test: 10Welcome to the international hub fo14r esoteric pro06g10ram13ming03 lang03uage design and05 deploymen12t! For more10 04info05rma02tio12n, che13ck out our wiki: http11://esolangs.org/wiki02/M03ain_P13age06. 04(For the o11ther kind o09f 13esoterica, t02ry #13esoteric on irc.d14a03l12.net02.) < 1376488225 960152 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PART :#esoteric < 1376488237 729664 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep getting i3 and ion3 confused. < 1376488244 170226 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was... surrespañeal. < 1376488255 50369 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Superespañal, even < 1376488261 592580 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Superespañäl, even < 1376488278 463707 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily! < 1376488294 884928 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You forgot to ask for her weight/locatiön! < 1376488308 623228 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry. I was momentarily disturbed. :( < 1376488955 987538 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376489459 158073 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376489488 454380 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376489914 580198 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck is with all the spaniards < 1376489957 409241 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the consensus is that our Fine Channel has a name that starts with “es”. < 1376489998 210690 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, are they asking questions? < 1376490028 751826 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know, i don't espange < 1376490038 369454 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanello. < 1376490057 424241 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: they do. she's /msging me with the usual CAPITAL QUESTIONS. < 1376490057 879821 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376490085 783462 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1376490101 913447 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't expecting some sort of Spanish inquisition < 1376490124 521703 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION flops Taneb with a wide brimmed red hat and a pair of aviator goggles. < 1376490192 871220 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i looked up the spanish inquisition sketch on youtube < 1376490198 651960 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the top comment is in finnish < 1376490213 38387 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second simply says "tits?" < 1376490222 670454 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a point to be made here < 1376490282 333779 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376490512 407758 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1376490529 897947 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376490635 808801 :Koen__!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen__ < 1376490824 224118 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm at a loss as to what it is, tough =P < 1376491764 414560 :nooodl!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376491936 986873 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376493993 837707 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376494023 620554 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1376494024 175105 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 141500Z 32005KT 15SM FEW025 BKN055 BKN120 BKN240 17/12 A2976 RMK SC2SC3AC1CI1 SLP077 DENSITY ALT 500FT < 1376494036 991399 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1376494053 468557 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376494384 744020 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1376494404 435327 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376494814 430977 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: what are your approximate coördinates in Paris' XVIIIème, and your body weigh? < 1376494846 276882 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's Paris XVII for you < 1376494859 393701 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woops. the «I» slipped. < 1376494864 879719 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and slightly above 70kg < 1376494869 753112 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks! < 1376494876 756105 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1376494885 48075 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo slightly < 1376494904 860216 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :statistical background noise. nothing to worry about. < 1376495797 976286 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376495812 305921 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Background noise is soothing, most of the time < 1376495883 839143 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: binaural white noise ASMR FTW :) < 1376495908 926372 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASMR FTW, srs bsns < 1376496137 95370 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376497113 341351 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :<oerjan> @ask Vorpal you're not the Vorpal who is playing r/nommit, are you? i am assuming not but cannot resist asking. <-- what is that even? < 1376497402 952734 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1376497719 760944 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376497794 379060 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like a reddit nomic. < 1376497809 324959 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola como estas < 1376497837 291162 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-*.... < 1376497901 565397 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :donde esta la biblioteca < 1376497946 348674 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no lo se < 1376497984 962255 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :me llamo t-bone < 1376497997 965187 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :la araña discoteca < 1376498015 390242 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eres niña o niño < 1376498062 81910 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :si el nido es muy lindo < 1376498088 38470 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :que eres loco < 1376498097 33303 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :el es un niño, fsvo < 1376498106 499911 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, google translate mistook you for gallician < 1376498118 599975 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*galician < 1376498128 82642 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esupido < 1376498144 447717 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn straight. < 1376498195 761113 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola < 1376498206 592266 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :como estan < 1376498233 627094 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :poco < 1376498241 252501 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taco? < 1376498423 301386 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pato < 1376498439 278237 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok look < 1376498444 196922 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we got off on the wrong foot here < 1376498454 979151 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to be insulted over irc by yet another spaniard < 1376498476 943986 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chapo < 1376498491 229669 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :un beso a todo < 1376498499 379293 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-* < 1376498521 88009 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heya Carolyne < 1376498546 901711 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :si < 1376498552 913872 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Si que? < 1376498586 337960 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clo < 1376498592 993490 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clo que si? < 1376498604 494851 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :claro que si < 1376498626 49372 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :creo es posible kmc hable español poco < 1376498671 532880 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Es posible, pero su perro no se tiene un amor estudiante para el papel < 1376498722 408037 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :que le pico a usted < 1376498742 299116 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nada, no le quiero. Disculpame. < 1376498760 828943 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tu de donde eres < 1376498790 311712 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Del mundo, y tu? < 1376498809 551601 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dime la verdad < 1376498841 781366 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Es la verdad. Soy del mundo. < 1376498851 951227 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376498860 59381 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Todo el mundo es del mundo < 1376498864 679338 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asi es la vida < 1376498868 500590 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :No me creo? < 1376499016 952884 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. OH WELL < 1376499466 553425 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :puto < 1376499534 308170 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :o rly < 1376499561 236420 :darkromantic!~guest@78-21-202-197.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376499609 235245 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :putero de coño < 1376499739 760736 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Classy stuff right there < 1376499743 717411 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome putero de coño < 1376499746 312052 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​03putero: de: coño:05 Welcome11 to th08e i09ntern09a04t04ion11al hub 04fo05r es09oter04i09c programming language design and03 deploym06ent! For mo13re information, c06hec07k06 05out our wik10i: http02://esolangs.org14/wiki/Main_Page. (For t06he other kind of eso03ter09ica, try #eso11teric 12on irc.dal.net.) < 1376499780 712684 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chucha bruta < 1376499869 322757 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: ton espagnol est pas pire! meilleur que le mien, en tout cas :p < 1376499916 328085 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coma mierd < 1376500191 549954 :darkromantic!~guest@78-21-202-197.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376500863 896287 :Carolyne!~chrisbell@190.198.52.184 PART :#esoteric < 1376501240 982 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376501347 542256 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376502217 904568 :atrapado!~dd@95.169.240.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376502480 976425 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: puhutko espanjaa? < 1376502481 302727 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: hurry and see it? will you be riding this evening? < 1376502592 975528 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Why do you always answer questions with other questions? < 1376502593 257298 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: me, ' don't worry about me? someone's been in fights ever since we was close. < 1376502655 980426 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Warning: Failed to converge in 100 iterations for gmdistribution with 256 components" bah, it's converged enough. < 1376502749 136024 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, apparently gmail requires ActiveX if you use IE < 1376502827 336767 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1376502830 625330 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i disbelieve < 1376502851 792871 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does activex even still exist < 1376502865 375133 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it only requires activex if you use opera with an IE user agent? < 1376502876 523326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it like an IE 6 user agent < 1376502966 270174 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be < 1376502981 982733 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 9.0; X11; Linux x86_64) Opera 12.16 < 1376503043 643177 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it mozilla, or is it msie, or is it opera < 1376503047 636333 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it linux??? < 1376503055 932049 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody knows! < 1376503064 86593 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it snow? or is it synthcoke? only your wallet knows for sure < 1376503090 864046 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a board whose BIOS includes a web browser < 1376503099 624715 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never tried to use it < 1376503102 692473 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently opera 15 calls itself "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.52 Safari/537.36 OPR/15.0.1147.100" < 1376503175 478488 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We're like these other guys, except we actually implement web standards correctly" < 1376503290 296781 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be nice if those user agent strings could just say which browser it actually is rather than having to dump all that crap in there to make stuff work < 1376503605 750776 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376503724 169875 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376503737 304324 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :User agents: the worst. < 1376503794 802265 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to be "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.95 Safari/537.36". (It's Chromium.) < 1376503817 414162 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "KHTML, like Gecko" thing is particularly silly. < 1376503940 635001 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And some Windows systems have terribly long lists in the OS column. < 1376503961 902931 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; GTB6.5; SearchToolbar 1.2; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.648; .NET CLR 3.5.21022; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729)" (from my access.log) < 1376504721 255146 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What was that perfect u-a you made? < 1376504775 862700 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376504836 28174 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs Gecko Chrome Safari < 1376504876 779888 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.31757 < 1376504900 267607 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-10-27.txt:02:14:03: <elliott> self.webkit_settings.props.user_agent = 'Mozilla/5.0 AppleWebKit KHTML Gecko Chrome Safari' < 1376504901 690310 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1376505041 197685 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's my suggestion: Mozilla/5.0 (That was a lie. More lies follow.) AppleWebKit KHTML Gecko Chrome Safari < 1376505424 72681 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If enough people use Mozilla/5.0 AppleWebKit KHTML Gecko Chrome Safari, it might become a web browser < 1376505431 21878 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha < 1376505575 644105 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google's summary for whatsmyuseragent.com: “Recent User Agents Visiting this Page: You!! Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/ 2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)” < 1376505591 130573 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre < 1376505606 123192 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: The truth, revealed. < 1376505612 971423 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you hang out with Googlebot ever? < 1376505613 195825 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: on top of that explosion!! that's more like it. where you must live! < 1376505624 811821 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds exciting. < 1376505656 63033 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someday, my life will be as grandiose as fungot's. explosions! the real manly life! the jetset! < 1376505656 266631 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it looks like we don't want to laugh... blue? i warned her, but there's nothing that can withstand the fangs of the turks... < 1376505733 674802 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only laugh purple-and-a-half. < 1376505751 241202 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(running gag colour we have in our D&D campains.) < 1376505798 395431 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A suffusion of yellow" < 1376506252 36373 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376506252 293219 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@mc22036d0.tmodns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376507872 477436 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376508213 786959 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376508242 163907 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376508449 966527 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1376508452 785033 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Client Quit < 1376508469 86027 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1376508946 17838 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@mc22036d0.tmodns.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376508972 180363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1376509071 263885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Vorpal i shall take that as a no, then. and yes it's a nomic played on reddit. < 1376509071 464573 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1376509093 617359 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ah < 1376509130 843584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kept getting confused when that player was mentioned in ##nomic :) < 1376509182 471804 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I seen other Örjans and Ørjans, and I do not confuse them with you. < 1376509195 623041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY I GUESS THAT'S GOOD < 1376509205 736205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do i keep getting email spam in finnish. < 1376509273 382417 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376509281 435077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: mostly it was the small possibility that you were actually playing nomic, since so many other #esotericians are. although i didn't really think it was your style. < 1376509317 827224 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1376509337 756378 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Was it someone selling you a roll-up ad stand? < 1376509458 956836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the second one contains a lot of "roll-up", yes. the first one says something about "Classic-matto". < 1376509506 119160 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. I have simplified chinese spam. something about friends selling me mangoes... < 1376509675 844548 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1376509711 219722 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't get all that much Finnish spam, but I got this http://sprunge.us/MJiT today. < 1376509847 959443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: looks similar, although i already deleted the spam so not sure if exact. < 1376509963 624521 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you are missing out on a great offer. It's only valid to the end of August! < 1376510013 585262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1376510035 327718 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376510105 895514 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376510178 665637 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~fortune < 1376510178 945661 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a computer, I find your faith in technology amusing. < 1376510243 186007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :metasepia: ok, just as long as you don't cackle madly < 1376510342 243491 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should try an evil cackle underwater, just to see how it goes. < 1376510357 855574 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably end up drowning. < 1376510361 4383 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<atriq> tibi iratus sum, ergo es quoque <-- :) < 1376510437 636817 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think there should be something about that in the overlord list < 1376510473 599862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm, i distinctly recall it has something about avoiding evil cackles in general. < 1376510519 754714 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. boring. I want to cackle, while gently stroking my bot like Dr. Evil. < 1376510598 124862 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but then, as you point out, entry #20: “Despite its proven stress-relieving effect, I will not indulge in maniacal laughter. When so occupied, it's too easy to miss unexpected developments that a more attentive individual could adjust to accordingly.” < 1376510642 373946 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1376510707 205301 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :<oerjan> Vorpal: mostly it was the small possibility that you were actually playing nomic, since so many other #esotericians are. although i didn't really think it was your style. <-- I'm planning to start playing some paper and pen RPG with some friends pretty soon, we are going to meet tomorrow to work out the schedules. < 1376510718 30052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell AnotherTest afaiu IOCCC categories are made up _after_ they select the winners. < 1376510718 230741 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1376510728 965357 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that count as my style? < 1376510736 935775 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably GURPS btw, knowing the DM. < 1376510752 547848 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: nope, please stay more in character hth < 1376510758 269159 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1376510896 165787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, read Darths & Droids) < 1376510915 70503 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, been a while since I last read it < 1376510930 262425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just started on the fifth movie :) < 1376511006 505879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not only are they designing a webcomic by committee, but it is looking more and more like they'll actually manage to finish it... < 1376511082 918025 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, Given how long IWC went on I didn't doubt they would get far. < 1376511148 15749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but IWC was just that one guy (DMM) and i think he may have changed job during it, while all of Darths & Droids are made by coworkers at the same place. < 1376511194 214706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it all obviously depends on DMM's supernatural time management skills. < 1376511222 5469 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is made < 1376511659 517365 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck iwc < 1376511659 784691 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376511666 965212 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck IWC < 1376511667 382728 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376511681 149042 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like duck duck go is case insensitive. < 1376511686 919537 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck duck < 1376511687 356951 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :duck definition: any of various swimming birds (family Anatidae, the duck family) in which the neck and legs are short, the feet typically webbed, the bill often broad and flat, and the sexes usually different from each other in plumage. < 1376511690 589185 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck DUCK < 1376511691 53303 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :duck definition: any of various swimming birds (family Anatidae, the duck family) in which the neck and legs are short, the feet typically webbed, the bill often broad and flat, and the sexes usually different from each other in plumage. < 1376511703 418658 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Irregular web comic < 1376511735 960504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck CAPITAL < 1376511736 342849 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376511742 369265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck capital < 1376511742 839913 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376511751 914801 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bicyclidine: I was wondering if duck'd recognize that acronym. < 1376511762 536691 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck ørjan < 1376511762 873340 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376511768 677682 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1376511777 538299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am completely unknown < 1376511788 179061 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bicyclidine: the odds were against me, but I just had to try. < 1376511826 709896 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you are Norwegian, from very up North. that's all I know about you. that, and that you weigh a tad more than myself. < 1376511914 500138 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you're the northernmost esoterician. < 1376511940 529137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1376511976 89761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi bicyclidine < 1376511978 836862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with the nick < 1376512088 877317 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi shachaf. Phone < 1376512114 737663 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sticks a “Hi! My name is Bike” tag onto bicyclidine < 1376512141 427221 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: there's one in the whois hth < 1376512225 492544 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1376512287 158426 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whoises say that the bikes are jameses. < 1376512667 817272 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376512697 310970 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376512746 470225 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Client Quit < 1376512992 835184 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote duck < 1376512994 677535 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :156) <fizzie> I don't trust ducks. They always look like they're planning something. I'm not sure it's a good idea to give them language capabilities. < 1376513081 967799 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376513089 994973 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1376513407 877247 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/011210.html (warning: dog slow today) < 1376513491 520234 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck anatidaephobia < 1376513491 766970 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376513505 159924 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as per wikipedia: “the fictional fear that somewhere, somehow, a duck is watching you. From Gary Larson's The Far Side” < 1376513718 738155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gary larson made up the word, of course. (it's not exactly a grammatical compound word in greek/latin) < 1376513743 510718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anatophobia would have been more logical < 1376513759 158171 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but less scary. < 1376513768 480557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i think that's still mixed latin/greek. < 1376513818 348190 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiki has «Πάπια» for modern duck. < 1376514250 531053 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's weird thing: Windows 8's "recommended" resolution (bold and with a "(Recommended)" comment) for a 1920x1200 panel is 1920x1080. < 1376515347 847250 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376515458 126345 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest18414: hi? < 1376515570 634485 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre < 1376515764 528052 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Préparation psychodenturologique préemptive < 1376515768 573063 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376515797 701495 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmp. I seem to be unable to set up VirtualBox's raw disk access in this thing. < 1376516052 109187 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376516072 990013 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1376516170 602216 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(VBoxManage just does the "has stopped working" thing.) < 1376516403 290959 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376516695 29217 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376516753 901805 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1376517321 782665 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was hoping to set up my usual "Linux on VirtualBox providing (read) access to RAID/LVM2/ext4 partitions" setup, because the existing tools that claim to do LVM2 (explore2fs, ext2read) seem really kinda iffy.) < 1376517451 821712 :atrapado!~dd@95.169.240.252 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376517745 696291 :gerardo2!~canaima@190.201.233.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376518048 472752 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone making "EMUya" mentioned that OUYA output is always HDCP, which among other things, causes the picture to lag too much. Do you know if there is a way to remove HDCP (even though some software might fail), or to remove HDMI altogether? < 1376518253 873743 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376518815 402610 :gerardo2!~canaima@190.201.233.31 QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1376518829 374749 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376518882 941651 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376518975 943097 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola < 1376518996 929903 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hola. < 1376519023 853724 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido gerardo1 < 1376519025 943885 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :gerardo1: ¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.) < 1376519061 673293 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I would expect that command to be called `bienvenir, wouldn't you? Since the thing it does is "to welcome", not "having been welcomed". < 1376519074 336849 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome tswett < 1376519076 292802 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1376519093 823687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: um if so it should be the imperative, not infinitive < 1376519115 247390 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: in my experience, Spanish UI elements are usually marked with the infinitive. < 1376519137 463893 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1376519152 73401 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spnish < 1376519180 784158 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376519190 74238 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1376519210 951393 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hablas spanis < 1376519222 387143 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pues, ¿who would have thought that el estudio de gramarios context-free would involve so much complex analysis? < 1376519233 205377 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hablo español un poco. < 1376519243 755325 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :de donde eres < 1376519248 660176 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Los EEUU. < 1376519257 653610 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tienes facebook < 1376519263 694546 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :que edad tienes < 1376519288 459045 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sí tengo Facebook, pero no me gusta friendear a personas que no conozco, y tengo 20 años. < 1376519303 703087 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sii te entiendo < 1376519332 213656 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tienes novia < 1376519385 981134 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tal vez. < 1376519473 963845 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo estoy empezando hoy aqui < 1376519481 814395 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :soy nuevo < 1376519521 565692 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pues, bienvenido. Nuestra canal es tu canal. < 1376519553 846936 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376519617 114281 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo estoy metido por la canaima < 1376519622 23361 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :y tu?? < 1376519719 935152 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i swear to god what is WITH the spanish in here < 1376519722 53089 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh, ¿qué es una canaima? < 1376519740 725109 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :es una computadora < 1376519761 643974 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you got a problem with spanish compadre < 1376519769 343672 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1376519784 966238 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not you < 1376519793 254061 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahora estoy leyendo algo sobre matemáticas. < 1376519825 884036 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :que estudias?? < 1376519846 99228 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: What is with the Spanish is that tswett has inexplicably decided to have a chat with what amounts to a spammer. (/msging random people in the channel definitely constitutes spam in my book) < 1376519876 565136 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they the same spammer, is what i'm wondering < 1376519876 765215 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Matemáticas. ^_^ Pienso en hacerme actuario. < 1376519898 326026 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :carolyne and gerardo are the latest in a long line < 1376519914 747350 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no te entiendo mucho < 1376519915 984614 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1376519952 110649 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of people who clearly know english but insist on speaking spanish, and mostly just seem to engender mutual confusion < 1376519973 788228 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not convinced gerardo1 knows English here < 1376519996 704194 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I don't know where you're getting "knows english" < 1376520013 414250 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can tell, because of the way they have communicated exclusively in spanish. < 1376520026 8572 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mm, no sé describirlo en español, pero hay un articulo de Wikipedia sobre eso: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actuar%C3%ADa < 1376520046 275386 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, well OK maybe not gerardo, but past spaniards have replied to stuff people have said in english < 1376520075 754726 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you keep calling them spaniards < 1376520108 895301 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a very nice person < 1376520110 696791 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because spanglophiles just sounds silly < 1376520119 587073 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: hispanophones? < 1376520124 884373 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is also not the word i want < 1376520137 395634 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "hispanophone" even a word? < 1376520138 844229 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't that mean someone who likes spanglish < 1376520142 884825 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is. In French. < 1376520144 766525 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376520150 826175 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: seems like the obvious translation of hispanohiblante < 1376520157 250434 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :trans... something < 1376520157 450486 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hispanophone, maybe < 1376520162 462913 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, Wiktionary says that the English is "Hispanophone", not "hispanophone". < 1376520162 694392 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :spanish-speaker < 1376520206 204379 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o te entiendo muy bien te estoy respondiendo por el traductor < 1376520224 808685 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me parece interesante que la mayoría del mundo hispanohablante está fuera de España... < 1376520261 404751 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vuelvo en un momento ok no te vallas < 1376520285 809488 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hasta pronto. < 1376520322 807133 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debemos traducir el channel topic en español. < 1376520517 924489 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376521309 475735 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey can someone explain type synonyms to me < 1376521331 765959 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A type synonym declaration gives a new name to a type. < 1376521343 960738 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The new name and the old name are then interchangeable. < 1376521387 425855 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if i define foo to be a synonym for [Int], and then call it on an [Int] with no reference to foo or anything, that works? < 1376521410 946670 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are we talking about Haskell? < 1376521414 965493 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376521435 523959 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "foo" wouldn't be a valid type synonym, since it doesn't begin with an uppercase letter. < 1376521444 825988 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whateer. < 1376521453 664473 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't know what you mean by "call it on an [Int]". Type synonyms aren't functions; what would it mean to call one? < 1376521463 275737 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376521464 823319 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, i missed some words. < 1376521473 751270 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :defined a function :: foo -> whatever. < 1376521500 541164 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's correct. Foo and [Int] are the same thing, so if the function expects a Foo, you can give it a [Int]. < 1376521516 498707 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1376521651 654506 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holaa < 1376521657 677620 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :estas alli < 1376521662 675803 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1376521664 328780 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hola. < 1376521733 835758 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tengo ir en un momento. < 1376521741 366074 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow I just found a board game that uses a turing tarpit instead of the usual action points < 1376521770 746286 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quieres mi facebook para que me veas < 1376521861 426209 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1376521883 559518 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376521906 166069 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :para que me veas si < 1376522056 486959 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376522085 385862 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376522112 247265 :gerardo1!~canaima@190.201.233.31 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376522113 210756 :gerardo2!~canaima@190.201.233.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376522197 861799 :gerardo2!~canaima@190.201.233.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olaaa < 1376522228 398862 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: What game is that? How does it work? < 1376522239 697090 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Antike Duellum < 1376522246 96541 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically there are eight possible actions < 1376522260 466355 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you've got a meeple turning around a wheel of the eight possible actions < 1376522274 858197 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to turn faster you have to pay < 1376522284 563250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't tell me it's a bf derivative twnh < 1376522313 986654 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's a CONQUEST THE FUCKING MEDITERRANEAN SEA derivative < 1376522394 576498 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MARE NOSTRVM < 1376522455 838549 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :possible actions include collecting gold, collecting iron, collecting marble, and hitting your opponent IN HIS FACE < 1376522562 4635 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that is only four possibilities < 1376522572 842402 :gerardo2!~canaima@190.201.233.31 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376522632 883073 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376522785 257578 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I said 'include' < 1376522788 687075 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1376522930 657774 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what is the other four? < 1376522993 980660 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :build a temple - hit your opponent in the face (again) - build militia - prepare militia to be built in the future < 1376523856 916123 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376524215 80969 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376524430 779746 :impomatic!~chatzilla@31.185.185.83 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376524805 50656 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1376526094 281720 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :Existentially unforgeable under adaptive chosen-message attacks | 22nd IOCCC is open: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | jsvine is doing an esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q/viewform | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1376526937 932534 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376527948 985585 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376528466 406443 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376528662 814729 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how common is the use of gas for heating and cooking in the scan-the-navy-ahs? < 1376528733 954580 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376528911 194965 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt you will get more than a definnitive answer here. < 1376528986 976865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for households in norway, i think almost nonexistent. < 1376529005 346749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :electricity used to be omnipresent for both. < 1376529010 343585 :nooodl!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376529062 574815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe it's changed recently for environmental reasons, e.g. my new apartment has water-based heating. < 1376529117 464723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it's somewhat fashionable for barbecues, at least :P < 1376529147 305439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a recent development. < 1376529188 664249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also for camping and summer houses it may be more common. < 1376529252 635230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*houses/huts < 1376529323 419166 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376529483 911610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love that you can buy natural gas powered air conditioners < 1376529490 308426 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like alchemy. using fire to make stuff cold < 1376529552 575789 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1376529697 536593 :douglass!~douglass@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376530328 415565 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376530430 138253 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376530796 546607 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT : < 1376532367 809133 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376533665 541791 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1376534030 395528 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376534552 392625 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376535627 78807 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: It means I can run FTL again! < 1376536179 227722 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :verily < 1376536368 491412 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: electricity for heating? ¿qué el fuck < 1376536625 59887 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376537128 951789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: norway's electricity is something like 90% hydropower. < 1376537160 943664 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nod* < 1376537178 419123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :before we found the oil, it used to be called our "white gold" < 1376537283 830848 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well still does, i guess < 1376538004 240430 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any better MUD systems than the one that I was playing before and quit because of the lack of difficult mode and so on? < 1376540650 435320 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why can't I find a MUD? < 1376540673 754703 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1kcvix/50_bytes_of_code_that_took_4gb_to_compile/cbo2kby < 1376540783 138291 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Turing complete in practice" :( < 1376540794 146626 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i was wondering if there is a more precise term. < 1376540801 808588 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gave a reasonably precise definition < 1376540877 703889 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :finite state machine? :P < 1376540897 468145 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very practical, those < 1376540961 189440 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh... no, not a finite state machine. the idea is to be able to compute an arbitrary function that uses a large amount of memory < 1376540986 535238 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you *can* simulate a FSM for a fixed number of steps without difficulty) < 1376541013 238379 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :c++. right. < 1376541028 704943 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey, it's not template garbage < 1376541048 379492 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much is, actually < 1376541409 368787 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and you can simulate an algorithm that uses a small amount of memory, but may be very difficult to analyze, such as an cryptographic hash, again without difficulty) < 1376542140 407743 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :linear-bounded-automaton-complete < 1376542176 101773 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's guaranteed to repeat a state if it runs for long enough < 1376542799 15524 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is possible to detect if something will halt < 1376545450 861374 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje < 1376546363 942675 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376547180 10324 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :“reasonable Turing-complete language, such as Brainfuck” < 1376547561 293372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1376548538 895905 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376548644 595530 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376548665 889985 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376549290 853539 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :via Wikipedia: The 1954 edition of the Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians notoriously dismissed Rachmaninoff's music as "monotonous in texture ... consist[ing] mainly of artificial and gushing tunes" and predicted that his popular success was "not likely to last". To this, Harold C. Schonberg, in his Lives of the Great Composers, responded, "It is one of the most outrageously snobbish and even stupid statements ever to be found in a work that is s < 1376549329 642631 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may have gotten its tail cut off. any case. < 1376550645 425763 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most popular music consists of artificial and gushing tunes. < 1376550658 77504 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rachmaninov was merely pragmatic. < 1376551519 550279 :kallisti!~eris@c-24-99-220-130.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376551519 550383 :kallisti!~eris@c-24-99-220-130.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1376551519 550430 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376551610 903024 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is an artificial tune, anyway < 1376551657 140166 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he wasn't able to take the time to work out a genuine tune because he was Russian < 1376551682 551798 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh, printing press, how you've ruined puns.) < 1376552027 903626 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: are you trying to ask, in your post, whether there is a function f from turing maching programs to c++ template programs such that |f(w)|/|w| is bounded and w and f(w) are somehow equivalent as programs? (i did not understand any of it, just guessing) < 1376552174 880404 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"without taking an exponential amount of space to describe the function compared to the normal representation (i.e. you can't just list every possible input,output pair)" < 1376552221 123524 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the normal representation < 1376552284 8957 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376552308 477719 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D :D :D < 1376552321 700004 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D :E :F < 1376552356 355234 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a place at the University of York! < 1376552378 601059 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::T :A :N :E :B :I :S :E :C :R :E :T :L :Y :L :O :V :E :Y :O :U < 1376552387 869292 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of place < 1376552396 668001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like New York < 1376552412 659607 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, it's like Old Old New York < 1376552433 921310 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as yorks are concerned, the newer the better imo < 1376552442 668899 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the new one is getting kind of old < 1376552473 826402 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: are you going to go studentize there < 1376552476 397273 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376552489 605196 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am going to studentize maths and computer science < 1376552497 857925 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no :'( < 1376552527 638466 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :congrats Taneb < 1376552530 995620 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1376552532 698891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376552535 902881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what kmc said < 1376552542 98689 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1376552542 515268 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratsneb < 1376552545 645202 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1376553415 179413 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what is the complexity class of lambda calculus terms where you can only evaluate each term to a depth of 17 (yes this is still C++) < 1376553581 950043 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is he talking about the recursion limit < 1376553656 990224 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did not quite catch the connection between the first and the second paragraph < 1376554288 21528 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1376554344 250319 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I for the first time will receive Computer Science education in an official capacity in October < 1376554408 915656 :kallisti!~eris@24.99.220.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376554409 186042 :kallisti!~eris@24.99.220.130 QUIT :Changing host < 1376554409 186208 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376554716 306790 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might not take another math course like _ever_ :( < 1376554750 529768 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, aren't you like really old like 28 or something < 1376554790 928173 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i'm i'm 24 < 1376554798 196679 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-i'm < 1376555581 806779 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Why does oklopol secretly love you? < 1376555597 519202 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, he secretly loves me!? < 1376555616 840750 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:39:38 < oklopol> :T :A :N :E :B :I :S :E :C :R :E :T :L :Y :L :O :V :E :Y :O :U < 1376555636 630059 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it must be a secret < 1376555657 329890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe because he doesn't reveal other people's secrets. < 1376555679 413260 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a very big secret when it's posted in the wide open < 1376555734 62764 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And FreeFull that's just a sequence of silly faces < 1376555812 384805 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> filter (\x -> x == ':' || x == ' ') ":T :A :N :E :B :I :S :E :C :R :E :T :L :Y :L :O :V :E :Y :O :U" < 1376555813 885627 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : ": : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :" < 1376555824 719934 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> filter (\x -> x /= ':' || x /= ' ') ":T :A :N :E :B :I :S :E :C :R :E :T :L :Y :L :O :V :E :Y :O :U" < 1376555826 275040 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : ":T :A :N :E :B :I :S :E :C :R :E :T :L :Y :L :O :V :E :Y :O :U" < 1376555835 158282 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> filter (\x -> x /= ':' && x /= ' ') ":T :A :N :E :B :I :S :E :C :R :E :T :L :Y :L :O :V :E :Y :O :U" < 1376555837 304403 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "TANEBISECRETLYLOVEYOU" < 1376555844 210770 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My god < 1376555883 753613 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you see it now? < 1376555897 52477 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1376555905 204675 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You must elope with oklopol < 1376555908 200540 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the only way < 1376555909 313836 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That decryption function looks kind of contrived. < 1376555926 71545 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could make any message appear in that text with a sufficiently complicated decryption function. < 1376555929 221644 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But he's in the far away land of far away < 1376555945 45358 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And shachaf raises a very good point < 1376555950 633634 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> filter (\_ -> "ILOVEMONOIDSTHEYARESOEASY") ":T :A :N :E :B :I :S :E :C :R :E :T :L :Y :L :O :V :E :Y :O :U" < 1376555950 633915 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `GHC.Types.Bool' < 1376555950 634026 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type... < 1376555958 829984 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1376555960 262263 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\_ -> "ILOVEMONOIDSTHEYARESOEASY") ":T :A :N :E :B :I :S :E :C :R :E :T :L :Y :L :O :V :E :Y :O :U" < 1376555960 644988 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "ILOVEMONOIDSTHEYARESOEASY" < 1376555978 34515 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say that that decryption function is much simpler < 1376556001 910035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map length ["filter (\\x -> x /= ':' && x /= ' ')", "(\\_ -> \"ILOVEMONOIDSTHEYARESOEASY\")"] < 1376556003 683142 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [35,35] < 1376556067 72224 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, we both have useless spaces < 1376556071 502357 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's get rid of those < 1376556078 870574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop nitpicking. < 1376556093 116533 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, stop pitnicking. < 1376556159 141109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I'm not sure what "tane bisec retlyl ovey ou" even means. < 1376556175 259736 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like gibberish to me. < 1376556181 739071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Wouldn't you agree? < 1376556182 132082 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, isn't "ovey" an exclamation associated with the Yiddish community? < 1376556215 680612 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "bisec" could be short for "bisection" < 1376556223 481202 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Taneb < 1376556225 625828 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards. (see also: d-modules) < 1376556228 111499 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not very convincing. < 1376556240 476241 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's "tan e" rather than "tane" < 1376556244 225715 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> tan (exp 1) < 1376556244 950003 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : -0.4505495340698077 < 1376556263 974344 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1376556282 55742 :kallisti!~eris@c-24-99-220-130.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376556282 334487 :kallisti!~eris@c-24-99-220-130.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1376556282 334643 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376556432 232477 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Client Quit < 1376556543 685959 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, the decoded message is missing its spaces < 1376556568 532004 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I interpreted it as "TANEB I SECRETLY LOVE YOU" but of course that doesn't mean that's where the spaces actually go < 1376556660 592204 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe "TANEBISECRETLYLOVEYOU" is one word in one of those languages with long words. < 1376556665 153130 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like Finnish or Hexhammish. < 1376556705 845966 :kallisti!~eris@c-24-99-220-130.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376556706 165414 :kallisti!~eris@c-24-99-220-130.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1376556706 165577 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376557112 797555 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time for reboot for new kernel for sparta < 1376557153 907082 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1376557233 93126 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1376557626 857626 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1376558464 750600 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1376558901 107633 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think 1/2 should be called cotwo < 1376558926 965997 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or rather the multiplicative cotwo < 1376558938 898289 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :To distinguish from -2, which is the additive cotwo < 1376560603 445295 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376561159 250134 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hexham < 1376561160 993003 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hexham es la ciudad mas importante de programación esotérico < 1376561186 622882 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know that Hexham is halfway between York and Edinburgh? < 1376561270 787240 :impomatic!~chatzilla@87.112.0.82 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376565195 439396 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376565279 787683 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376565664 376970 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376565760 446668 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376565789 474388 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376568637 164650 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/aug/14/john-cleese-attack-british-press < 1376568648 13284 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love that headline < 1376568712 556594 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes it sound like john cleese's troops are battering down the gates of the daily mail < 1376569032 68589 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376569252 76646 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1376569396 418140 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376569425 426234 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376571352 877992 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376571669 120559 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1376571975 529456 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376571979 313239 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376572174 578253 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376572185 451310 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :caradhello. < 1376572371 284361 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my fingers tend to accumulate random ink stains from unknown sources. I fear I'm a sleep-writer... < 1376572465 444016 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi o/ < 1376572529 525914 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I calculated the probability of rolling d4,d6,d8,d10,d12,d20 and all coming up the same number (which will have to be 1 to 4). At least, I think I did; maybe I made a mistake. < 1376572548 401396 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 6*8*10*12*20 < 1376572549 471662 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 115200 < 1376572686 502395 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What do you sleep-write? < 1376572736 487476 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no idea. haven't found my Nebulous Nocturnal Notepad yet. probably some weird stuff à la Ulysses. < 1376572755 520119 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know of a cheap IR camera that I could rig to my box? < 1376572822 100131 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I don't know about that. < 1376572854 293052 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something USB, or better wireless. then I could film mys... oh... very, very bad idea. < 1376572877 842032 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Wii remotes have a IR camera although they can only track positions and not transmit a picture. < 1376572891 994855 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure I'm going to end up dead after a few weeks, like in Paranormal Activity. < 1376572916 327518 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Then you must try to write a report of it. Unfortunely it is difficult if you are dead. < 1376572932 283228 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“better random moonlit modern musings than being stalked by an invisible demon”, says my mom. < 1376572944 674563 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose so. < 1376572948 680785 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, I wonder if I could xkcdise it and sleep with a keyboard. < 1376572968 540649 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could try. I don't know how well it would work. < 1376573078 145268 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a bluetooth keyboard. I'll keep you informed. < 1376573090 501950 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. Does it have enough battery power? < 1376573118 813647 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps disable the functions keys and so on for that kind of experiment. < 1376573232 539367 :nooodl!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376573249 960654 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was hong kongly bought, and of good battery quality. < 1376573286 889813 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, if the battery is good, then that will work. < 1376573334 779765 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you ever type anything about Uselessness RPG 1, tell me we can add it into that wiki! (regardless whether you sleep or wake up while typing it) < 1376573563 921036 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to have misplaced the link to your RPG. care to provide it to me again? < 1376573706 76462 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops... < 1376573711 594649 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, here it is: http://hackiki.org/wiki/uselessness_rpg_1,,main < 1376573854 80444 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck yuggo < 1376573854 348464 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376573898 216150 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yuggo is a currency from CthulhuMUD. Zorkmid is a currency from Zork, and also used in some chess variants. Yen is Japanese currency. < 1376573926 743200 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Have you seen such chess variants?) < 1376573963 160900 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew about nethack and zorkmids, but chess variants? < 1376573980 703983 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yen is yen is yen. it goes with calpis and pocari sweat and ramune. < 1376574032 837192 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, even in some chess variants, mention zorkmids. That isn't important for the purpose of this game, though; I just used three currencies found elsewhere, and since exchange rates vary they don't even need to be matching anything else. < 1376574189 701878 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the log in as a google account is a little bit buggy, but seems to work. there's a PHP error when you click on the google link, then it says “You are logged in as https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=[RANDOM STUFF]”. < 1376574234 540767 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Tell Gregor; that isn't my problem. < 1376574252 891675 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is either Gregor or Google who has done something wrong; probably Google. < 1376574259 846631 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: what I zzo38ly said ↑ < 1376574449 357768 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Specifically, yuggo was the currency used in most shops and vending machines in Pluto I have seen in that game; the exceptions are the bank and Dr.Tkikt which you must both pay for services in copper coins instead; the bank will exchange them automatically though so it doesn't matter. Most of things I have seen about zorkmid are about chess variants, in fact!!) < 1376574487 740806 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Many games might have the different currency being copper, silver, gold; I want to make the game different, so instead I have yen, yuggo, zorkmid. Maybe "yen" might be changed just because it starts with "y".) < 1376574518 478626 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It is true; if I change it, that is the only reason.) < 1376574526 201147 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :about that y point, I added an annotation. < 1376574548 150012 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my wiki editing skills are poor, so the format may not be standard compliant, fsvo standard) < 1376574551 919087 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, let me see < 1376574589 974151 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you have any y points? < 1376574590 238646 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: will you and hurried here. gogah... make... .....don't ever make marlene... < 1376574758 35239 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Good point; I won't use this in Z-machine though (another problem is the way Unicode deals with font width) < 1376575138 496724 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'tis sad. gargoyle seems to have stopped development. < 1376575159 220260 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What is that? < 1376575178 80452 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ccxvii.net/gargoyle/ < 1376575221 537059 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember losing a few hours of my life trying to find a lost pig. < 1376575234 836381 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, I have seen that < 1376575255 574343 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many Z-machine interpreters, but most of them seem very defective. < 1376575332 545626 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written two Z-machine programs, and I have tested many interpreters; only Aimfiz and Infocom's interpreter run them correctly. < 1376575431 84493 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A version of Gargoyle based on Aimfiz instead of Frotz might work. < 1376575821 85075 :nooodl!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376576166 146841 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, I am beginning to grasp the details of OpenERP. I am scared. < 1376576394 662636 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376577364 957920 :nooodl!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376577845 401756 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376578220 486489 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1376579270 916634 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376579630 403374 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1376579782 646562 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: AIUI, a lot of the regular cheapo webcams register a reasonable amount of IR, so you could pick one of those and then you'd just need some IR illumination. < 1376579951 501153 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1376580536 510673 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :They make infrared look pink though < 1376580937 82894 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's okay if you just want to see where you keep your hidden night-journal. < 1376582322 201214 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Changing host < 1376582322 460629 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett JOIN :#esoteric < 1376582743 665262 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376583584 281748 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1376583985 10036 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1376584060 714110 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376584089 61187 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376584723 448212 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376585347 935501 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376585461 903979 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mhm. How come dark grey is entirely black in a screen session in PuTTY? < 1376585500 4259 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there's a "indicate bolded text by..." setting. < 1376585523 338697 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Managed to somehow miss that every time. < 1376585668 882896 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmp. In VirtualBox the raw disk access stuff worked not at all; in VMware Player, I get a few dozen "The operation on file "\\.\PhysicalDrive3" failed." messages at boot time and when anything sufficiently special happens, but if I just keep saying "continue" everything works. < 1376585795 638430 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Except for a lot of errors in dmesg.) < 1376585811 570869 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"failed command: WRITE DMA". < 1376585828 496162 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe if I configured it to use something different. < 1376586612 160694 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I told VMware to use it in the "individual partitions" mode, and it just broke down. < 1376586638 273782 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it just shows the main menu dialog, and trying to close it gives a "The virtual machine is busy." error. < 1376586983 377817 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1376587078 248856 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it has issues with partitions larger than 2T, because the individual-partitions select-o-tron just says "2 TB" as the capacity. < 1376587764 553300 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: back from lunch. I'll IRise myself in a non horror movie manner. < 1376587794 448961 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :My lunch is sausages < 1376587801 128414 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheese and brocoli sausages < 1376587811 347926 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You learn something every day" < 1376587824 256101 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you eat cheese and broccoli? < 1376587824 506962 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: better send that soldier something. < 1376587866 466601 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my lunch was a large all-dressed phở. < 1376587882 588140 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: "you're talking like fizzie." < 1376587917 734830 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I now? < 1376587918 837580 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The weirdest. The front headphone jack is noisy in Windows only. And not all the time, just occasionally. < 1376587929 958186 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it could be some interference from the GPU or something. < 1376588055 733009 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interference, defense, number 99, first down < 1376588185 512097 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on one hand, I am reading an article about fermented shrimp paste, otoh Roujo is doing eldritch incantations, and on the not quite fourth hand I'm utterly puzzled. < 1376588208 669379 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Otter puzzle is pretty damn ahrd < 1376588211 836879 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, ahrd < 1376588217 527819 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's like hard-mode hard < 1376588229 220708 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I can't spell < 1376588248 715638 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: you're francophone like me. of course you can't spell. :p < 1376588286 275271 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can spell < 1376588290 453730 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just, not actual spells < 1376588293 118744 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just words < 1376588663 515043 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: your opinion on words? < 1376588663 799284 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: cloud... don't... the planet? ho ho hoooo. good luck. please let me. my journey ends here. the two of you. < 1376588685 86344 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«ho ho hoooo. good luck.» properly ominous, imho. < 1376588704 217187 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What's this about your journey ending? < 1376588704 459797 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but what are you? you keep wandering around... < 1376588704 459880 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`theme < 1376588707 761663 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: theme: not found < 1376588712 739417 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops < 1376588714 152281 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Wrong prefix *and* command. :p < 1376588717 185068 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1376588717 425357 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7* fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1376588717 847601 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELL CRAP < 1376588724 737728 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^currentstule < 1376588727 35317 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^currentstyle < 1376588735 221732 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style style < 1376588735 454039 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1376588739 617540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's indicated by that *. < 1376588742 37913 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH < 1376588744 123656 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1376588745 403662 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1376588763 961299 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at Roujo and offers him a fungot manual, 4th edition < 1376588764 209493 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: aerith......? i just can't seem to lose weight. hmm, aerith. long time. < 1376588777 426093 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're on 4th already? < 1376588779 713223 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at the time! < 1376588819 368690 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :manuals always have a ludicrous edition number, in the Grand Conspiracy of Taking Students' Money for Stupid Reasons. < 1376588831 514238 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/in/according to/ < 1376588893 870816 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What's new in the 4th edition? < 1376588894 106542 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: unfortunately, this trip was expensive. and a man. he was a vibrant woman. hadn't changed at all. but, if you're thinkin' you yet! < 1376588903 216989 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. < 1376588959 155498 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“...expensive” “hadn't changed at all” < 1376588988 25419 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pretty much only got "he was a vibrant woman" < 1376589085 895783 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: but did you have *fun* on your trip? < 1376589086 142097 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: putting you on my back till the end of this gym! < 1376589185 750522 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: saying sweet lines since whenever he started doing it < 1376589185 984697 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: looks like you've seen this already......? so why's it impossible for us to live here i'd change things around ' n' me sober. < 1376589195 528983 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do tell < 1376589195 769566 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: is that man over there! < 1376589202 83500 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's he < 1376589207 45158 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What about him? < 1376589207 333126 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: then, is now...... must've been a while back, don't make me laugh.... < 1376589221 934466 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'd rather not. You remember what happened last time, right? < 1376589222 180566 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: it'll be all right, with my life. < 1376589243 986038 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: That's something nice to have, that certainty. I wish I could say the same. < 1376589279 370700 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungo: Are you still there? < 1376589281 424192 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1376589288 181526 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH WELL < 1376589302 454716 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376589314 786372 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you snubbing Roujo? < 1376589315 10954 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hey! hey, that's fine. < 1376589323 388933 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well crap < 1376589332 987011 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome denial < 1376589336 113194 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07denial: 07Welc04ome to the i02n05te09rnational h07ub 03fo06r e03sote12ric pr08ogramming l09ang11uage design and deployment! 03For mo08re04 i13nforma05tion, 05check out our wiki: http://es13o06la10ngs.org/wi05ki09/Main12_10Page. 06(For th09e other kind of esoter08ica, tr10y #esote06ri08c on05 irc.dal.net.) < 1376589341 160830 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: not the first time a meatbag receives abuse from a bot :p < 1376589360 435986 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not the last, either < 1376589363 488116 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote never saw < 1376589364 44478 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I was a chatbot < 1376589364 972944 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :952) * fungot has joined #esoteric <boily> woohoo! the one and only fungot is back! <fungot> boily: damn your mother! <boily> ok. never saw that one coming. < 1376589376 639252 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine the possibilities < 1376589381 34446 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could beat the Turing test < 1376589383 989073 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I think I could < 1376589388 473980 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never really tried < 1376589397 937418 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could auto-meta-turing yourself. < 1376589408 902220 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile, that thing exists: https://github.com/rvantonder/pentaquine) < 1376589479 177022 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooo, star < 1376589617 739215 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :random question of the day: anybody here who has a urbanspoon account? < 1376589689 228089 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stay away from city utensils, twvm < 1376589691 746028 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :tyvm < 1376589693 215292 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway < 1376589697 528023 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stay away from 'em < 1376589698 701949 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1376589823 733561 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on a quest to visit all the vietnamese restaurants on the island, and I was wondering what defines a good phở around the world. < 1376589847 644732 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376589854 905114 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea < 1376589982 372577 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far, 24% of my logged restaurants offer vietnamese cuisine, and I've been to 83 in Montréal, 10 in Québec and 4 in Ottawa. < 1376590814 899637 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376590833 691227 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376591140 423556 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376591265 795696 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear < 1376591274 121198 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm doing unusually well in this run of Brogue < 1376591281 38464 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376591350 421538 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: roguespeed to you! < 1376591369 941807 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got an ally naga, ogre, and imp < 1376591389 691316 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I've lost the imp < 1376591471 694953 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376591478 523917 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm on floor 20 < 1376591487 636152 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many floors in brogue? < 1376591514 890209 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the amulet is on floor 26 < 1376591523 534090 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think it goes down to 100 if you really want to < 1376591542 173343 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it definitely goes deeper than 26 < 1376591555 222045 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it only went to 52? < 1376591555 448871 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can collect "lumenstones" for bonus score < 1376591560 250446 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh maybe it goes to 52 < 1376591564 566175 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm bad with remembering numbers < 1376591636 16019 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...apparently it goes to 40?? < 1376591647 686136 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define AMULET_LEVEL 26 // how deep before the amulet appears < 1376591650 542869 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define DEEPEST_LEVEL 40 // how deep the universe goes < 1376591652 28461 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I died < 1376591686 82653 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you a phở fiend < 1376591748 572189 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: darn. < 1376591781 859103 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Killed by a cloud of caustic gas on level 21 < 1376591785 735106 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: I think it changed < 1376591801 643940 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i just quoted the source < 1376591811 192049 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1376591811 503782 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I am the vietnamese restaurant reference among my colleagues, friends and family. I peruse blogs and my instincts to seek the perfect montrealese phở. < 1376591839 419631 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is montréal known for its phở? < 1376591848 177194 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the changelog: The deepest dungeon depth is now 40 instead of 100, and it contains a reward for players skillful and insane enough to reach it. < 1376591872 411269 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION contemplates setting up his Compose key to type tiếng Việt diacritics < 1376591933 697924 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: probably. there are many, many places all over the city that serve it. < 1376591976 988082 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my compose key was remapped to 半角/全角, and I just tweaked xmodmap to get everything defined by X on my dead keys. < 1376592121 34677 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL: a fully stocked bookshelf is kind of heavy. < 1376592198 610917 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it fall on you? I hear that can kill people < 1376592343 68686 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I hope it didn't kill you!) < 1376592385 380799 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right. my compose is ひらがな/カタカナ. < 1376592414 563314 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://pastebin.ca/2432345 < 1376592434 365094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you type a lot of japanese boily? < 1376592440 56550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to figure out how to anchor my bookshelves to the wall < 1376592443 853541 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :earthquake zone, y'know < 1376592456 747509 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes. I have UIM bound to Ctrl-Space. < 1376592464 240889 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 TOPIC #esoteric :Existentially unforgiveable under adaptive chosen-message attacks | 22nd IOCCC is open: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | jsvine is doing an esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q/viewform | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1376592505 111357 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I firmly believe the /topic makes sense in some parallel universe. < 1376592588 881979 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376593404 301931 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: now that's just absurd < 1376593426 570278 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it makes sense in the orthogonal universe(s) < 1376593477 844978 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: my belief are reasonable, up to iso-absurdity. < 1376593482 241539 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/f/ves/ < 1376593605 105228 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only in computer programming you can exclaim “It works! I get the correct error!” and be proud of your work. < 1376593616 941249 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about approximation theory < 1376593685 442428 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck approximation theory < 1376593685 853762 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In mathematics, approximation theory is concerned with how functions can best be approximated with simpler functions, and with quantitatively characterizing the errors introduced thereby. < 1376593709 951756 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. right. < 1376593723 251222 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or statistics < 1376593725 804792 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I guess I was close enough, and within an acceptable error margin. < 1376593747 121348 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I deny the existence of statistics, based on personal experience. < 1376593751 789962 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :for e.g. compilers, getting the right error is a really important part of what it does < 1376593804 136971 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's this complete memory blank in my head when I try to recall my statistics classes. I think it was caused by a nerve gas deployed by the dean to keep us students in track and coöperative. < 1376593863 493201 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: a more efficient way to not remember statistics is to not learn it in the first place < 1376593954 466881 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rustc has 753 "this should fail to compile with error X" test cases < 1376593979 14663 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds quite few < 1376593990 622606 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :patches welcome < 1376594012 208762 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I read the rust tutorial yesterday, maybe I should start patching the compiler now < 1376594044 91328 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's about how it goes yeah < 1376594309 103073 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: No, I just needed to move it move it, in order to add a cable to the thing-where-cables-go-in. < 1376594337 204175 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just plain didn't "budge", though, before first emptying half of the books. < 1376594385 208406 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? thing-where-cables-go-in < 1376594386 746181 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing-where-cables-go-in? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376594386 996335 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                               | < 1376594387 274818 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                             o/`¯º < 1376594435 402650 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: those things are commonplace in pre-wireless ("troglodyte") environments < 1376594457 445151 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376594504 604423 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: my apartment is double-trogloditty, then. I have two powerbars, each with a mess of cables, and various electronic apparatuses, each with their own messes. < 1376594553 369417 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, two and a half. there's an extension cord in my kitchen because I lack well-placed outlets, and have none in my bathroom. < 1376594576 980383 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recalls the weeks I had to shave without a mirror... it was a life experience < 1376594693 716270 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Personally I think I'd rather go with the cable than with some sort of wifi audio streaming apparatus, those things are always so stupef. < 1376594738 223797 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all my audio is cabled, with a shiny amp and two mysterious wooden boxes inherited from my dad. < 1376594838 139965 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, that's very similar. I have a karman/hard-on (or w/e) amp and two "Jamo Power 130S"es that date probably to the 1970s, inherited from my father. < 1376594886 160619 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... if the wifi router is connected by cable, does that make the so-called "wireless" non-wireless? < 1376594913 949628 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://images3.okr.ro/auctions.v3/700_700/2011/11/22/1/4/66480192997240637290843-5658522-700_700.jpg something very much like these. < 1376594923 3004 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know the difference between the 130T and the 130S.) < 1376594939 209796 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, I mean, in more detail than "the last letter".) < 1376594940 135688 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: cambridge audio wired to JCLes from the '70s. < 1376594955 891499 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, shiny! < 1376594958 32790 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are those hanging white flanges in the upper left for? < 1376594970 735186 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Ask an audio engineer, I think. < 1376595001 936121 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: The fabric-y cover in ours is much more cat-demolished than what's in the picture, however. < 1376595070 2850 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, cats and music... the eternal war and grievances. < 1376595138 395954 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm on a http://www.cambridgeaudio.com/media/351a-front-black-1353684537.jpg or very similar, http://www.gallagher.com/photos/stereo/jbl_3.jpg still very similar. < 1376595204 757798 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Well, for completeness... http://www.avx.hu/forum/uploads/monthly_12_2011/post-2852-080826500%201324539191.jpg a bit less shiny. < 1376595232 253045 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't use any of the video or surroundy features of it.) < 1376595275 983105 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what I find weird? < 1376595297 220628 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: nope < 1376595313 394595 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something about Daft Punk sounding French even with the voice modulation and whatnot < 1376595354 705442 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect that's something you imagine based on knowing that they are french < 1376595359 163265 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I find karman/hardons' form factor a little too big, imo. < 1376595379 633568 :nooodl!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :french accents are pretty noticable < 1376595388 572882 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: you don't say. < 1376595406 488174 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't the new album have a monologue by a french guitarist. or maybe he's spanish. help i don't know anything < 1376595444 43681 :nooodl!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(listens to an interview) yeah they sound very french here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaPil2JlXhU hth < 1376595470 416476 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: do you mean Giorgio Moroder? he's a disco guy. maybe he plays guitar too?? < 1376595483 819938 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that one < 1376595488 96441 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I haven't heard the album) < 1376595491 424684 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought the monologue was about guitarism < 1376595509 955998 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the moroder is not one of the daft punk guys though? < 1376595510 375121 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one of the three people in the universe who thought Human After All was pretty good though) < 1376595797 460192 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :across universes, the median number of people who appreciate Human After All to its full extent is 4⅝. < 1376595875 278237 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, even if it just me, it's still a bit weird < 1376596021 276013 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find that singing masks most of people's accents, and even swedish artists can sound english when singing < 1376596303 608301 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? phở < 1376596305 13736 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :phở? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376596305 365442 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          | < 1376596305 626882 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        º¯`\o < 1376596342 924929 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn phở là một món ăn truyền thống của Việt Nam, cũng có thể xem là một trong những món ăn đặc trưng nhất cho ẩm thực Việt Nam. < 1376596346 845747 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1376596376 231524 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pho < 1376596377 876465 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :pho? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376596378 244746 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          | < 1376596378 445214 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        º¯`\o < 1376596578 426449 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck phở < 1376596578 668294 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376596669 765805 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. So earlier, I may have said that in a linear type system, every monad is (essentially) equivalent to a state monad. < 1376596679 513440 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is pho made from ~duck? < 1376596722 780298 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turns out, though, that a linear type system doesn't appear to support the list monad, at least not by the obvious meaning of the word "monad". < 1376596727 805238 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: the regular version is phở bò (beef), but you can also get gà (chicken). < 1376596747 445564 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, you can't have [Int] -> (Int -> [Char]) -> [Char], because you could have any number of Ints, and yet the second argument must be called exactly once. < 1376596808 861023 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: there is also a duck soup called bún măng vịt. < 1376597000 28405 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376597041 918797 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Kids' Guide to the Internet http://youtu.be/A81IwlDeV6c < 1376597094 17769 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376597123 989788 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: oh the fungotity... < 1376597124 190478 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: meteor is coming, and then that's okay. we'll see if you don't even have any money. < 1376597145 176060 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: est-ce que tu connais le Douteux? http://douteux.org/ < 1376597146 981026 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :How threatening. It's like... < 1376597184 318967 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :You owe us a bunch of money. There's a meteor coming and it's going to kill you, but we don't care. In fact, after it kills you we're going to go over to your house and see what money's in it. < 1376597377 71623 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It is kind of bulky, that's for sure. And it's mostly empty space. < 1376597676 421092 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376597685 390184 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"3 < 1376597788 253232 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good obscure language to compile into lua? < 1376597788 808646 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome ^v < 1376597791 135662 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09^v: Welcome to the03 international hub for 06esot11er10i02c11 p07rogrammi14ng language de10sign 08an03d d14eploy08m04ent! For 13more 07info12rmation09, che11ck out our wiki: http:08//esolang04s.org/wik08i/Main_Page.12 (04For the 11other kind of eso05terica, 05try #06e08soteric 05on irc14.13dal.ne04t.)07 < 1376597792 500978 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1376597867 539915 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: there is http://esolangs.org/wiki/EsoInterpreters. no lua in it, but it's an interesting starting point. < 1376597939 125533 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_o < 1376597992 9176 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember what i was trying to do a couple years ago < 1376598002 466430 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was making a BF inturpreter in logisim < 1376598019 621261 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"checking whether strstr works in linear time... no" < 1376598025 425117 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, autoconf can determine asymptotic complexity. < 1376598074 348015 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=5514 huh, wow < 1376598248 430193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I assume it uses KLEE < 1376598258 750290 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow < 1376598266 940271 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode actually crashed my http server < 1376598273 374634 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c_c < 1376598324 172228 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd think it would just try a bunch of them and see how linear the result is. < 1376598325 696513 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: KLEE? < 1376598340 688738 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KLEE hth < 1376598369 728842 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck KLEE < 1376598369 929157 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Swiss artist who combined his expert use of line and color and his theories of abstract art to produce works of whimsy and innocence. < 1376598383 600834 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: 5 + 1 = 2 * 3 and 5 * 1 = 2 + 3. < 1376598471 218107 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Make a version of strstr that detects whether it's being given worst-case input. < 1376598513 589483 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachello. < 1376598555 331473 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376598558 652693 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yoily < 1376598573 400263 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The naive linear algorithm, which doesn't work, is to step through the haystack, and keep a counter of the number of characters of the needle that have matched. If you encounter a mismatch, reset it to zero. < 1376598671 816875 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The naive way of fixing that, which makes the algorithm quadratic, is to keep multiple counters, one for each possible starting point of the match. < 1376598695 867989 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sould make a esoteric language, where you will have to brute force CRC in order to compile it < 1376598720 989403 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the worst case for that algorithm may be finding e.g. "aaaa" in "aaaaaaaa". < 1376598786 109478 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: à la Malbolge :D < 1376598801 40084 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: or, as a colombian would say, AAAAAAAAAAA. < 1376598802 251084 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Malbolge is pretty easy to... well, interpret, isn't it? < 1376598819 938682 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea like malboge < 1376598907 948404 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should poisson the hispanophones that randomly join this channel in order to predict when will the next one appear. < 1376598998 697669 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reading the t's and c's for student loads... < 1376599232 995130 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :loans? < 1376599265 907923 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to try to think of another Turing tarpit... < 1376599295 310736 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, loads < 1376599299 735409 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a loads < 1376599316 329250 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's how much luggage I'll be able to carry as a student < 1376599323 442722 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about this. Memory consists of a bunch of 32-bit words. The instruction pointer points to a pair of words. < 1376599368 23967 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, lemme see. < 1376599389 334956 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1376599398 771404 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sould i use FCS32 instead of CRC32? < 1376599402 648187 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, yes, I did mean loans < 1376599410 223620 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CRC is too easy to crack < 1376599463 305572 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: so far this is sounding pretty normal < 1376599488 819852 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: going to university? < 1376599490 752201 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1376599493 429873 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is life this scary < 1376599497 629059 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each execution step consists of multiplying the two words together, setting the second word to the result, and moving right if the result was greater than 991197253, and left otherwise. < 1376599508 616387 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: this sounds like a segment/address pair on an x86 architecture... < 1376599517 659566 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, as you said, probably not. < 1376599521 952365 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre < 1376599631 142068 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: disproportionate retaliation from former students who had to endure a little bit less scariness than what you're going to suffer, culminating in an intergenerational serial escalation of standardised, civilised terror. < 1376599700 171092 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all "If you're Welsh and applying before September 2012... If you're Welsh and applying after September 2012... If you are studying a part-time course..." aaah < 1376599828 480769 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You will need to give employers either a P45 form or a P46 form." < 1376599832 923719 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you're welsh and apply during september 2012? < 1376599854 370947 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :raise WelshPointerException(); < 1376599859 239296 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Become welsh and find out!") < 1376599928 791409 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The UK is a weird country < 1376599946 174690 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :UK isnt a country .-. < 1376599956 312575 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :your mom isn't a country < 1376600017 771619 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if google translate is right, it may be a EithriadPwyntyddNull(). I'll have that in my code next time I have to do java. < 1376600141 4711 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the ll in null pronounced the welsh way there? < 1376600171 201659 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries it out... «nuthllhthhhh» < 1376600333 705109 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :think nutlh in Klingon < 1376600373 49312 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION frowns and shouts «nuTLH!!!» < 1376600546 567952 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps you could use nullity = dirymedd instead: EithriadPwyntyddDirymedd() < 1376600642 246662 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooh, much better! < 1376600754 842270 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the word "pwyntydd" feels very welsh, filled with welshness < 1376600873 34438 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v, yes it... is < 1376600886 564310 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're confusing it with great britain or something < 1376600901 113268 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://qntm.org/uk < 1376600915 403414 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, ooh, are you wrangling with university interfaces < 1376600937 325579 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wrangling with some part of the government, I belive < 1376600940 775249 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*believe < 1376600942 715311 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure which < 1376600956 368557 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(currently i'm trying to apply for student funding for the next year only to be informed that the service is broken) < 1376600979 967113 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the UK is a sovereign state but not a country I think? < 1376600988 825595 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scotland, England and Wales are the countries < 1376601011 282246 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh christ, i forgot about that stuff < 1376601012 685013 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: good luck. I had to fill out a government form this summer where I was repeatedly asked if I'm a fisherman. < 1376601021 646985 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you? < 1376601028 605931 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :absolutely not. < 1376601031 70757 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wikipedia calls it a country a little bit < 1376601047 654137 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The countriness of the United Kingdom is part of its weirdness < 1376601051 136963 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I'm an IT professional. < 1376601052 41903 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :previously when i was filling out the form it was demanding my parents' income despite the fact that i'd already clearly exempted myself from the means-tested stuff < 1376601061 294127 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, are you a phisherman? < 1376601095 609068 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: never phished nobody. I prefer more subtly direct ways of extracting valuable information from people, like with the The Question. < 1376601116 204180 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know that Hexham is precisely half-way between Edinburgh and York < 1376601120 444000 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I mentioned that earlier < 1376601121 276418 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What's subtle about that? < 1376601130 674245 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, ^v, what are your approximate geographic coördinates and body weigh? < 1376601142 866221 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :300 and USA < 1376601149 514068 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: subtly direct, not subtle. < 1376601160 883949 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. What's subtle about the directness? < 1376601176 604036 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice to see that ^v is keeping with the spirit of the channel by providing completely useless answers to the question. < 1376601190 316537 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they hardly weigh 300 kilos < 1376601220 825382 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to be made out of metal or something for that < 1376601221 394847 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: see, I was subtle there. it's missing some IRL experience as it is transmitted through a textual medium, but trust me, it is subtle. < 1376601226 416472 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <boily> btw, ^v, what are your approximate geographic coördinates and body weigh? <^v> 300 and USA <boily> nice to see that ^v is keeping with the spirit of the channel by providing completely useless answers to the question. < 1376601229 796016 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1091) <boily> btw, ^v, what are your approximate geographic coördinates and body weigh? <^v> 300 and USA <boily> nice to see that ^v is keeping with the spirit of the channel by providing completely useless answers to the question. < 1376601230 336181 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was the . bolded < 1376601238 682044 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no. < 1376601241 63874 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376601241 933801 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, "Is there a Little/Lesser Britain?" ... as far as I can recall, it has never occurred to me that there would be another britain < 1376601244 404012 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'm now imagining someone named "Doc Osmium" < 1376601247 335664 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1376601250 875 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1376601267 326256 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doc Osmium is a good suppervillain name < 1376601271 645428 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, there was the Roman province of Britannia Minor, corresponding roughly to modern England < 1376601272 394275 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(decided not to correct that typo) < 1376601273 924379 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1376601290 684095 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i was a supervillain i'd be doc osmium < 1376601297 504032 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh, it was perfectly voluntary. I dislike bolded punctation marks. < 1376601308 825822 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd kill people by hitting them with osmium i guess < 1376601318 446488 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: :) < 1376601318 848610 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: hmm, that page pointed to the piece of france that's called (roughly) "Britain" < 1376601320 134188 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, it's Brittany in France < 1376601330 544375 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1376601360 854147 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you fıend. < 1376601363 103117 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, there's a certain intensity to that smiley < 1376601365 554101 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it < 1376601418 914642 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It stares into your soul < 1376601433 684626 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1376601440 254101 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: hi < 1376601449 955166 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1376601453 562793 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking forward to this evening?? < 1376601455 947170 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i won't lie < 1376601457 127558 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wept < 1376601464 459331 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sure? < 1376601491 94306 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing on tuesday :( or wednesday :( < 1376601522 916790 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what's with this evening? < 1376601549 94683 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: oh no did he miss the tuesday update? < 1376601562 274720 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems so < 1376601706 145180 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, so like is this a sex thing < 1376601728 995508 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what isn't, these days < 1376601911 715044 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people from #esoteric meeting IRL??? the apocalypse has come! < 1376601923 235314 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get w/ the program < 1376601939 788316 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the apocalypse has been here all along < 1376601940 350108 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a) that's been happening since forever in finland, but also b) the apocalypse is only with elliott and Taneb < 1376601981 992809 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. wasn't there a Canadian corollary or something about that? < 1376601983 167097 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost met ais523 once < 1376602126 807504 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I did not < 1376602143 475376 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, are there any esolangers in or around York? < 1376602157 309159 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(>>>), maybe? < 1376602159 275588 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1376602160 698937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does New York count < 1376602164 472831 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: are you moving out of hexham? < 1376602171 5262 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, in October < 1376602177 208649 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, slightly not < 1376602183 399156 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But mostly? < 1376602193 579442 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly still not < 1376602201 35308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A little bit? < 1376602209 557527 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really < 1376602229 917743 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more like Birmingham than New York < 1376602233 935155 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How slight is this slightly? < 1376602243 846662 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: nice, good luck with the unhexhamming < 1376602254 785652 :nooodl!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hi good nooodl-question-answering here < 1376602274 175794 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: ???? < 1376602278 86768 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did i do < 1376602286 518596 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, slightly may have been used here to mean entirely < 1376602289 467751 :nooodl!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :<shachaf> (>>>), maybe? < 1376602290 795113 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1376602296 495550 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was my touchpad talking < 1376602683 882159 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376602737 966776 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376602943 156320 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1376603743 527546 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, they reclinginged dcss! < 1376604047 962013 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: one of the levels of http://io.smashthestack.org/ involves writing two Brainfuck programs with the same MD5 hash that do two specific, different things < 1376604049 976701 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1376604083 198087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE scoofy < 1376604088 467831 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ScOoFy: WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: HtTp://eSoLaNgS.OrG/WiKi/mAiN_PaGe. (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1376604190 654052 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, interesting < 1376604307 987995 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376604416 668233 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's... easier than it sounds, once you find the magic bit of janky research code that generates MD5 collision pairs < 1376604435 619053 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck janky < 1376604435 949056 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Software description: continuous integration server built on top of Jenkins and Hubot (Ruby). < 1376604444 318853 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when the generating md5 collisions become that easy? < 1376604445 988068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I used http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/ < 1376604448 228613 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bletch. the horror. < 1376604454 61294 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm now thinking of um... valerie's article on the hash function lifetime thing < 1376604464 776401 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1376604476 491757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like when = 2007? < 1376604495 869683 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm... so like, preimage finding is still generally hard and hasn't happened for most hashes, right? < 1376604506 498735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway you can find maybe a dozen collision pairs per hour on a pretty modest machine < 1376604510 318825 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like, how hard is finding a partial preimage? like "I want a hash that's 00000000000000***********" < 1376604517 948058 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that potentially easier than like, an actual preimage? < 1376604532 868467 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :chosen-prefix collisions are feasible too, now, with big but not absurdly big compute farms < 1376604536 701708 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collision_attack#Chosen-prefix_collision_attack < 1376604551 240742 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I meant like, the *hash result* has a chosen prefix < 1376604554 178553 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I know < 1376604557 898445 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just following what I said < 1376604560 289704 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhh, I see < 1376604574 628110 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A real-world collision attack was published in December 2008 when a group of security researchers published a forged X.509 signing certificate" wow < 1376604595 213932 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not easy enough for that Typeable bug. :-( < 1376604596 309881 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the Flame malware used a chosen prefix collision, following a technique that is not published in the open literature < 1376604603 8445 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow @_@ < 1376604610 118862 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which basically demonstrates that it was made by someone who employs world class cryptanalysts < 1376604622 301307 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of like poisoning someone with a rare isotope of polonium... < 1376604639 458726 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck cryptanalyst < 1376604639 783570 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cryptanalysis (from the Greek krypts, "hidden", and analein, "to loosen" or "to untie") is the art and science of analyzing information systems in order to study the hidden aspects of the systems. < 1376604645 199711 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck cryptoanalyst < 1376604645 531490 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cryptanalysis (from the Greek krypts, "hidden", and analein, "to loosen" or "to untie") is the art and science of analyzing information systems in order to study the hidden aspects of the systems. < 1376604672 845140 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376604680 509978 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are some pretty badass job titles really... "secret untier", "secret writer", "secret studier" < 1376604695 861739 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I don't know of any practical significant preimage attacks on MD5 < 1376604707 941233 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are theoretical faster-than-brute-force attacks < 1376604729 39603 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I was thinking, like, valerie wrote the thing about how hash functions have a finite lifetime and you have to be prepared to upgrade < 1376604737 441842 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those tend to exist for most hash functions, even ones considered OK < 1376604741 198892 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe only with reduced rounds though < 1376604743 758576 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and was kind of thinking what would happen if SHA-256 got a break and suddenly bitcoin collapsed < 1376604755 749023 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1376604757 809386 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376604784 199698 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are surely more likely scenarios for that than people breaking sha-256 < 1376604786 470162 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that more or less likely than an efficient algorithm for discrete logarithm problem on elliptic curves? < 1376604790 428584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably more likely < 1376604795 648263 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would have different consequences too though < 1376604851 460921 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, breaking ECDSA? < 1376604855 540005 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1376604869 639494 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez if you could brea that you could like, forge signatures, right? < 1376604879 639471 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep you could steal anyone's bitcoins < 1376604894 204658 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1376604899 348724 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I mean, in general, right? < 1376604900 969941 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's build a quantum computer and use it to steal all the bitcoins < 1376604903 640528 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, other kinds of signatures < 1376604905 669367 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1376604909 339074 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be a huge deal < 1376604929 969783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if there are any altcoins using post-quantum signatures yet < 1376605016 533436 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe someone already broke it but they're being discreet about it < 1376605065 137018 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt.coins < 1376605090 943067 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a joke about discreet logarithms < 1376605101 319614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1376605127 569400 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you get lumber down the river without anyone noticing < 1376605130 221059 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :send it as discreet logs < 1376605134 829660 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1376605172 508884 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there was an episode of NUMB3RS where the guy breaks All The Crypto and then the mafia is after him or something < 1376605192 392242 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you could build log tables with it < 1376605199 48958 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah here we go "A young girl is kidnapped, but her parents refuse to cooperate with Don's investigation. The girl's father is a mathematician, and the kidnapping may be related to his work on the Riemann hypothesis." < 1376605213 319717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :episode title "Prime Suspect" (i'm not making this up) < 1376605216 579207 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good hypothesis < 1376605230 593623 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's that's terrible < 1376605234 576655 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's so bad. < 1376605244 890700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole show is like that < 1376605256 779196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's terrible but I enjoy watching it because it was filmed partially at my school < 1376605267 482668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm like "hey I know that building, it's actually much easier to break into than that" < 1376605271 149801 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must really cater to the lowest common denominator < 1376605293 148850 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_>_>_>_> < 1376605307 82159 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: That's that's terrible. < 1376605308 360649 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hides behind Bike  < 1376605383 208551 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They can probably still see you through the spokes. < 1376605463 609662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://glyph.twistedmatrix.com/2009/01/television-writer-guide-to-cryptography.html < 1376605717 429667 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my solution: buy 500 server racks and brute force it ;_; < 1376605960 820980 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, you've seen the irc drug boat metaphor right < 1376606095 111408 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote numb3rs < 1376606096 480946 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :680) <oklopol> speaking of math, i watched an episode of numb3rs today <oklopol> the first episode was more like 57471571c5 < 1376606139 444339 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ for the uninitiated) < 1376606169 750647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<boily> across universes, the median number of people who appreciate Human After All to its full extent is 4⅝. <-- i sense that medians may work weirdly across universes < 1376606201 270738 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but but they need to make a GUI interface in visual basic!! to track the killer! < 1376606212 791135 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, to track the killer's IP address! < 1376606244 310928 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oblig. http://guivbip.codeplex.com/ < 1376606249 740995 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was csi wasn't it < 1376606253 711275 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so? < 1376606288 422681 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1376606326 910686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was NCIS < 1376606331 71571 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're all basically the same < 1376606356 800441 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh no < 1376606360 362711 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :csi has ken mattingley < 1376606374 963972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was watching NCIS and they had to shut down the computer in time to disable the bomb or whatever but the guy couldn't figure out the interface so at the last second he just shot it a bunch of times with his gun < 1376606385 97742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've wanted to do that many times < 1376606395 731200 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that's CSI:NY but yes < 1376606426 261679 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did he shoot the monitor < 1376606446 601021 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think so < 1376606448 952758 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :inter alia < 1376606492 559649 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus the original CSI is still running... almost 300 episodes < 1376606503 560313 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "connecting to port_6667 of #channel irc". I mean, I've seen it, but still. < 1376606622 91685 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376607007 660650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell taneb <Taneb> kmc, yes, I did mean loans <-- and here i was all ready to assume british rail had special luggage rules for students. < 1376607007 900375 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1376607019 861116 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1376607035 70547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do have a discount railcard for students < 1376607046 430578 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well for young people anyway. http://www.16-25railcard.co.uk/ < 1376607065 403975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does norway. < 1376607076 381437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does norway have good trains < 1376607095 434937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, "good" is not a word commonly associated with norway's trains. < 1376607240 694368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 'Parts of the Harry Potter film "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince" were filmed on the Rauma Railway.' !!!! < 1376607448 951086 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curiously enough, there's also a Rauma in Finland. < 1376607473 951219 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't think it's important in any railwaystic way, however.) < 1376609117 688186 :itsy!~digital_w@82.0.112.87.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376609146 452380 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no passenger rail traffic since 1988 :/ < 1376609875 714413 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1376609880 324844 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376609921 445328 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1376610156 741483 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376610250 884384 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh well right, the _view_ is pretty. the punctuality, not so much. < 1376610281 590847 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my train experience, summarized < 1376610464 575168 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from a late meeting with ænigmas. < 1376610469 364309 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to eat. I am famished. < 1376610477 45152 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: universes are weird. < 1376610478 296948 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1376610479 495077 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376611606 276279 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://skillsmatter.com/custom/images/tempbannerhaskell-exchange-670x180px.gif what a good picture < 1376611617 26187 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xtreme haskell xchange < 1376611640 676054 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that banner looks like an anime convention ad O_O < 1376611701 936092 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Fiora: http://joshreads.tumblr.com/post/58349908871/ < 1376611730 96664 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell is the most anime of programming languages < 1376611742 174857 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: haha < 1376611769 906956 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh gosh < 1376611891 569234 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: good < 1376611948 987515 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theawl.com/2013/08/i-may-not-harm-jeff-bezos in related news. < 1376612068 30435 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Okay To Feel Bad / Jeff Bezos' Robot Butler Tells All / Dale Cooper: Barthes, Bodies, Porn / Will Be Humiliated For Attention / Stoya: Sex, Porn, Feminism, Kitties / Get It Now: The Awl's Weekend Companion < 1376612092 806718 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patricia Lockwood, "Rape Joke".. what the heck sort of news site is this < 1376612106 418183 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of person reads news sites nowadays < 1376612112 688026 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just get everything """"aggregated""" < 1376612289 218785 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://xxx.lanl.gov/pdf/astro-ph/0302075.pdf ignoring the total rest of this paper, for some reason the title makes me giggle < 1376612320 197797 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this porn < 1376612335 193650 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :los alamos government porn distributor < 1376612345 743752 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376612347 146985 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, arxiv. how unfun < 1376612359 97783 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a very... straightforward title. < 1376612372 736885 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"more mind-numblingly large celestial objects made of irregular materials, i guess" < 1376612440 850159 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1376612549 427133 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, the acronyms "third dredge-up (3DUP)" < 1376612610 733920 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been reading psychology. you have no idea how sick i am of initialisms < 1376612623 497488 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're talking "potential task (PT)" here < 1376612630 674956 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... what XD < 1376612657 103208 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're almost as bad as the military < 1376613064 811579 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "partial mixing of protons (PMP)" < 1376613085 582858 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376614062 793501 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376614631 647546 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376614678 768050 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"that banner looks like an anime convention ad" wow... yes it does < 1376614867 290877 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376615217 11715 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-broke-privacy-rules-thousands-of-times-per-year-audit-finds/2013/08/15/3310e554-05ca-11e3-a07f-49ddc7417125_print.html "One in 10 incidents is attributed to a typographical error in which an analyst enters an incorrect query and retrieves data about U.S phone calls or e-mails." < 1376615661 935396 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376615710 641939 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can believe that, really < 1376615807 904336 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376616078 455668 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cessna.com/citation/longitude < 1376616105 60565 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how this is a webpage designed with the intention of getting you to buy a plane < 1376616136 890014 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Generous in size, extravagant in spaciousness" < 1376616190 866137 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When science becomes art, anything is possible" < 1376616209 254689 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fuck, i can't think of another way of wording 'it's really big', better reach for the thesaurus" < 1376616222 453391 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, i won't lie, i want one now < 1376616223 230472 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yupppp < 1376616236 952758 :carado__!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1376616298 893456 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376616459 343495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Piloting the Longitude has been simplified to the level of smartphone or ATM operation" < 1376616473 443500 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is terrifying < 1376616476 224726 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that they would even write that < 1376616496 174074 :carado__!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Client Quit < 1376616509 783860 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that just makes me want one even more < 1376616514 695537 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cessna.com/~/media/Images/Aircraft/citation/longitude/infographics/img-citat-specs-infograp-long.ashx < 1376616521 625338 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean look! you could go to like... < 1376616522 633129 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghan < 1376616523 169428 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1376616539 224903 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and take 8 friends! < 1376616548 406295 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 friends unless you are friends with the pilot < 1376616554 999167 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is their example airport Sheffield? < 1376616557 373057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who wouldn't be friends with a pilot < 1376616577 426429 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also http://www.cessna.com/single-engine/skyhawk < 1376616599 753844 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i wasn't going to link but then i realised that the section titled "THE GATEKEEPER OF AVIATION EXCELLENCE" was actually referring to the doors < 1376616778 333471 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Range: 4000 nanometers? < 1376616822 253681 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Max crusing speed: 490 kilotonneattoseconds? < 1376616836 644178 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1376616945 863897 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1376616952 820470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i have this vague memory of seeing a comment that this haskell banner was part of some larger conference or something which chose anime style that year < 1376616969 439934 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_172#Operational_history okay, this is amazing and insane < 1376617013 673812 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like there's an easier way to refuel in the air < 1376617034 476228 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but doesn't everyone refuel by hovering next to a car? < 1376617068 887598 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376617152 822356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the best < 1376617168 684314 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just fuel but also food and water < 1376617177 114192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and engine oil < 1376617214 325915 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Early in the flight, the engine-driven electric generator failed. A Champion wind-driven generator (turned by a small propeller) was hoisted aboard, taped to the wing support strut, and plugged into the cigarette lighter socket; it served as the aircraft's source of electricity for the rest of the flight. " < 1376617306 654541 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a little weird that the "Operational history" section is entirely about that one flight < 1376617316 284956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since this is the article about the most produced aircraft in history < 1376617323 355248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :over 43,000 < 1376617341 875014 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's to deflect your attention from the fact that it's a completely inadequate operational history < 1376617823 165116 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376617944 287496 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what operational history < 1376617953 636396 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont see anything that is operational < 1376618032 455319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about denotational history < 1376618989 306598 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376619259 917083 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376619438 967550 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1376619558 549369 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1376619929 842675 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376620143 597178 :itsy!~digital_w@82.0.112.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376620147 273219 :impomatic!~chatzilla@82.0.112.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376622136 710350 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376622887 173804 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu NICK :45PABFR8T < 1376622896 165065 :45PABFR8T!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu NICK :augur < 1376622985 870460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Yay, I unlocked the Zoltan Cruiser. < 1376623189 282988 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :whee < 1376623190 300270 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376623205 463632 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376623641 401271 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1376623710 385301 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376624017 332767 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Hmm, it doesn't seem so great. < 1376624034 383417 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I get for the whole peace thing, I suppose. < 1376624273 573501 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the Zoltan cruisers is rather nice IIRC < 1376624288 443725 :noooodl!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376624324 842079 :noooodl!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376624374 793908 :noooodl!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376624529 926211 :nooodl!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376624841 18306 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376625250 164615 :noooodl!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: noooodl < 1376625593 465892 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best part of non-English-subtitled English language musical comedy is the explanation of puns in parentheses. < 1376625620 484884 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which, for romance languages, are somewhat intelligible for exclusive anglophones. < 1376625955 275236 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get why you'd explain puns in translation notes. nobody's going to laugh. < 1376625974 923326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :puns aren't for laughing they're for groaning < 1376625998 304716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :homegroan puns < 1376626011 108026 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im sure at least one person has laughed thanks to the translation < 1376626023 195649 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah like that < 1376626043 908878 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imho, the printing press killed puns < 1376626061 954233 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they used to be a very high form of humor, a show of intelligence. < 1376626062 234195 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo, fun puns do not exist. < 1376626088 185639 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought wit was higher? < 1376626098 725936 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were used in many contexts, not just jokes: speeches, legal proceedings, etc. < 1376626115 24240 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo, wbuna xvivavrzv do not exist < 1376626126 907689 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376626130 975856 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wit is to do with the source of your humor, assuming it's good. < 1376626147 946278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`r13 wbuna xvivavrzv < 1376626148 184635 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imo, nontrivial zeros of the Riemann zeta function that do not lie on the critical line don't exist. Ymmv. < 1376626175 6187 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gently prods HackEgo < 1376626178 956007 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376626185 976659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`r13 wbuna xvivavrzv < 1376626191 165976 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's an omen hth < 1376626208 6876 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jub gur urpx vf Wbuna Xvivavrzv? < 1376626208 886581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly it might simply be because the command is wrong < 1376626211 765796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1376626213 56115 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1376626216 828975 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376626221 75753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which r13 < 1376626222 446030 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/r13 < 1376626228 918501 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yarr 13 < 1376626229 118582 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Har de har har! < 1376626239 646883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :eqee < 1376626244 284841 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :@rot13 < 1376626244 484668 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1376626245 125814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo wbuna xvivavrzv | r13 < 1376626246 428658 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :johan kiviniemi < 1376626269 543749 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anticlimactic < 1376626297 555612 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :rot13ing this is nagvpyvznpgvp < 1376626336 317209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which rot13 < 1376626337 606468 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/rot13 < 1376626350 77179 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 Jub gur urpx vf Wbuna Xvivavrzv? < 1376626351 524770 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who the heck is Johan Kiviniemi? < 1376626400 96259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 ymmv < 1376626401 401625 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :lzzi < 1376626471 129522 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xraagb wnyr̀e lbeh cnqre. < 1376626493 796722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 Xraagb wnyr̀e lbeh cnqre. < 1376626495 16442 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kennto jalèr yoru pader. < 1376626498 706955 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, you may be interested to know that the groan is a recent phenomenon (last century or so) < 1376626533 252628 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like some type of language. Reminds me of... Irish, maybe? Though only vaguely. < 1376626559 621420 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Yoru pader" sounds kind of like English. Or maybe "pader" is from Latin. < 1376626572 506329 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, interesting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groans_of_the_Britons < 1376626599 18563 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the british isles have a quite interesting history in roman times. < 1376626601 703364 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "kennto"... doesn't that have sort of a... I'm not sure what, exactly. A Celtic feel or something? Or British, or what. < 1376626609 603022 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Jalèr" looks like French, though. < 1376626611 416623 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody likes ancient british history :( < 1376626613 926647 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then there were kings and stuff... boring, you know... < 1376626646 696461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: are you trying to analyze what _you_ wrote? < 1376626656 387413 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah! What language is this? < 1376626687 486753 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like it's probably a European language, doesn't it? Like, I definitely don't think I'd say it looks like any particular non-European language. < 1376626716 284555 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it doesn't look entirely unlike Vietnamese, from the very very little I know of Vietnamese. < 1376626721 328634 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like, you don't know what you yourself wrote, like? < 1376626733 368714 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know exactly what it means; I'm just pretending I don't. < 1376626773 346030 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Yoru pader" just really sounds a lot like "your father". Maybe it's some weird variant of English or something. Like English turned into... something else. < 1376626799 482189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1376626850 597899 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google Translate says that "kennto" looks like Finnish and "jalèr" looks like Spanish. < 1376626898 359163 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sentence *kind* of looks like it could be Finnish. Like, it doesn't use any letters not used in Finnish, apart from è, does it? But it doesn't actually look like Finnish at all. < 1376626911 296769 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty impressive that `rot13 is i18n, actually. < 1376626952 417709 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: that it successfully converted r̀ to è? I'm not that impressed; that's just an ASCII English letter followed by a combining diacritic. < 1376627051 547016 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's not its own unicode character < 1376627079 687572 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ hm, my irssi doesn't like your characters < 1376627129 455371 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The similarities between man and computer cannot be ignored, computers are essentially biological systems with a transistor." why do i do this to myself, help < 1376627168 960318 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1376627172 217284 :sub_space!x@0x00.me JOIN :#esoteric < 1376627174 137234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where < 1376627187 897720 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION licks ion - no particular reason < 1376627192 809553 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the land of the dead < 1376627195 637165 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs 0x00.me < 1376627203 497147 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: muhahahha < 1376627228 827142 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: do you know this person? giving that this isn't the first time < 1376627238 399333 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.29853 < 1376627266 539211 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1376627268 907062 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: we are friends from the n(th) dimension. < 1376627280 608277 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: tell elliott < 1376627297 656910 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sub_space: hey why is 0x00.me an uncredited comic in shitty jpg form. < 1376627343 528361 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: zoidberg < 1376627360 667291 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well I'm literally sick of you already. < 1376627362 297530 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty rude to use someone's art without crediting them. < 1376627365 90211 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :;[ < 1376627383 36606 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION holds elliott's hair < 1376627400 828960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: i am pretty sure elliott will ban sub_space if you don't confirm you know him - nah it won't help anyway. < 1376627412 417556 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares? < 1376627417 207719 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :plz cease with the unsolicited physical contact < 1376627420 549735 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me < 1376627429 121501 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome sub_space < 1376627431 751369 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​05sub_10sp12ace: Welc07ome to the international hub fo08r eso06teri04c prog10ra07mming language desi06gn and14 dep04l07oyment! F12or more info10rmation04, che02ck out11 12our 12wiki: http://esolan10gs.org/wi09ki/Main05_Pag06e. (For the other ki02nd of esoter07i04c04a, tr03y #es14ot08eric on07 irc09.dal.net.) < 1376627434 827207 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :tnx mnoqy < 1376627439 489471 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-* < 1376627464 500346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the comic tho < 1376627472 579965 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually if ion said he knows you and doesn't mind you joining just to lick you twice then I would be ok but everything you have said since has progressively decreased my confidence in you < 1376627473 488005 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's lambdabot:?: :( < 1376627484 648480 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not here < 1376627494 547481 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot is right here... < 1376627503 889879 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah, it's from a webcomic called subnormality. < 1376627520 819125 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems a bit what's the word < 1376627522 767243 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1376627525 77797 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :subnormality is cool < 1376627526 324161 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i;ll leave it at that < 1376627533 77766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: subnormal? < 1376627540 228170 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no not that word < 1376627541 929216 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :subnormality is fantastic < 1376627556 757018 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a lot of the time) < 1376627591 153826 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> putStrLn "I'm here" < 1376627592 107627 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : <IO ()> < 1376627704 722805 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1376627829 609308 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sub_space: what are your intentions as to your presence in this channel < 1376627852 527796 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hrm.. that's deep. < 1376627900 743173 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember when i was new and the first thing i got asked is what my business here was? how times have changed < 1376627912 558960 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it simplifies down to "do you intend to do anything but join and lick ion and then be alternately vague or creepy in response to any questions" < 1376627921 472798 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got the same question too.. ;) < 1376627923 28072 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is pretty shallow, as questions go < 1376627931 987774 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1376627942 187873 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: what _is_ your business here, anyway < 1376627957 235364 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i dodged the question back then too < 1376627967 404537 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :said something like my business is usually idling < 1376627968 784597 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think everyone does.. < 1376627985 523356 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, but time will tell. i do not intent to intentionally create any friction between users. < 1376627994 749137 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :indend * < 1376627999 118311 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1376628011 84190 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good correction imo < 1376628137 730974 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1376628257 538855 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why do you use anything but' < 1376628268 693998 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :with 'and then' < 1376628270 258565 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric : ? < 1376628394 849917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sub_space: how many fingers am i holding up? < 1376628556 411085 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376628569 269591 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (n-m) < 1376628588 159030 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :fingers < 1376628600 678897 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :of type fingers < 1376628619 940108 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in universe hand < 1376628627 498863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see you are covering all bases < 1376628627 737655 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :for each subset of universe < 1376628690 642509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you have any comment on the issue? < 1376628690 880081 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is something wrong? want me to leave? i don't wanna hear it! c'mon, let's go and see the headlines in the middle of nowhere? < 1376628705 59280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no, no! < 1376628705 259993 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but, i'm expecting a good long look at the two levers up and the planet... i don't know what time it wasn't that difficult. < 1376628784 49167 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :love me. love me. just say that you love me. < 1376628979 989386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you do the loving bit, you're better at it than me. < 1376628980 228092 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there he is literally miles away from the mako reactor countinues to suck up all the townspeople? no way we could see each other? < 1376629015 861756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: well i cannot see him either. < 1376629016 61751 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, have special powers to their fullest... there goes the pillar, right? i hope he doesn't get hurt. < 1376629145 424486 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: speak earn your treats. < 1376629145 624707 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sub_space: hey? aren't i the same ' ol me. my feelings. < 1376629168 139570 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: speak | earn your treats. (*) < 1376629168 376698 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sub_space: dyne didn't care who anyone was...... we will, and put him to say this to you? < 1376629243 74598 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose. if it's absolutely necessary and can not be avoided by assuming an inverse relationship < 1376629259 989686 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dances with fungot < 1376629260 189872 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sub_space: where did i make a drink just as long as we did it! i'm comin' with me! < 1376629310 920083 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1376629405 860046 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: why m? < 1376629406 60144 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sub_space: remember, the huge materia. this part is broken.... < 1376629409 379898 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376629460 920936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help what s going on < 1376629465 154958 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad < 1376629465 355308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this channel under attack < 1376629468 303098 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376629470 190059 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :;[ < 1376629472 370186 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_o < 1376629474 739376 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey shachaf did you see the thing < 1376629478 958996 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tonight thing < 1376629479 940452 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sould have joined erlier < 1376629482 942255 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i fix it < 1376629483 494459 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1376629485 270138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: no!! < 1376629488 354558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you list the list < 1376629490 775900 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's good i recommend seeing it < 1376629497 580378 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo list the list < 1376629501 827062 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1376629505 412053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1376629505 612229 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 atriq Bike boily cuttlefish elliott fgrep Fiora fungot HackEgo metasepia mnoqy monqy Ngevd nortti oklopol Phantom_Hoover pikhq quintopia Sgeo SgeoBot SUPREME_BUTT_SUI Taneb < 1376629507 332782 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's smlist < 1376629520 862381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it mnoqy < 1376629528 478055 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smlist < 1376629529 839628 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :smlist: shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy < 1376629530 114231 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that?? < 1376629532 898667 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1376629544 691951 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :for """"extra credit' you can give a number < 1376629552 310721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no need < 1376629596 570538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1376629604 463158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a sequel of the last one < 1376629607 440132 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1376629619 167659 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the recommnoqydation < 1376630042 831442 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376630058 531187 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376630259 258891 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376630275 478514 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1376630282 837502 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1376630320 782187 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376630645 871496 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I'm annoyed by the #haskell sentiment that if something is hard to do in Haskell then it isn't worth doing. < 1376630656 591256 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hard in Haskell and easy in another language.) < 1376630743 842209 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what? no mutable variables? how will i ever be able to do anything?! < 1376630744 42688 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need a teacher. < 1376630762 435748 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: funny that in most cases the haskell code is shorter and easier to read.. :) < 1376630766 91514 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: teach me. < 1376630772 441780 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i will give you .. things < 1376630786 624284 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sub_space: thats very vague... < 1376630825 732457 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: so? < 1376630837 891525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nit < 1376630843 441633 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sub_space: teach... what? < 1376630888 403409 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm. < 1376630925 911674 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: how to appreciate < 1376630938 442860 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :that teaching plz. < 1376630963 143948 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1376630967 322414 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sub_space: that was a sentence fragment.. please speak in proper sentences.. < 1376630969 551608 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb Bike < 1376631073 740017 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: please explain to elliott that I would like to present an opportunity to exchange 'things' for lessons in appreciation. < 1376631103 131798 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sub_space: you can do it yourself. elaborate on "things"// < 1376631213 483503 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: i can but i would like to share because it makes me feel alive. things - flowpaths from which one may benefit < 1376631229 544710 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :alive for alive. < 1376631267 296577 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :things:// < 1376631300 951980 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe things://idkwhatimdoing.blogspot.com < 1376631317 602182 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :new ip protocol. i call dibs < 1376631337 16028 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_uFIb3pXqg < 1376631374 752875 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone figured out how to shake hands with the sun? < 1376631387 102764 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :(speaking of protocols and all that shit) < 1376632212 623611 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it requires a SHA65536 implementation < 1376632263 796860 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376632386 137404 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: and LOLCODE instead of javascript < 1376632443 545523 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like 4096-bit XAES < 1376632584 823763 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's useful to have hash functions with big outputs (e.g. for RSASSA-PSS signatures) but usually one concatenates SHA(0 || message), SHA(1 || message), SHA(2 || message), etc. until one has enough bits < 1376632588 866174 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1376632633 404838 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the width of enough_bits ? < 1376632642 255525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't xaes 4048-bit < 1376632672 684985 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Is that what one actually does? I've never heard of it. < 1376632678 761510 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sub_space: you need a value the same size as the RSA modulus, so probably 2048 or 4096 bits < 1376632700 945243 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but everyone is using ecc :'( < 1376632704 665382 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hates being so poor < 1376632881 974491 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1376632915 430101 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376633094 609216 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: uh look at the wikipedia page on Full Domain Hashing and then read the paper by Rogaway (sorry, I'm on a computer which sucks at copy-paste) < 1376633140 221600 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :existentially unforgeable under adaptive chosen-message attacks < 1376633156 824022 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FDH is the obvious (?) thing where you hash your document to a value y with as many bits as n, and then signature = y^d mod n < 1376633191 177413 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a security proof (which already puts it ahead of PKCS#1 v1.5) but it's not as good as the security theorem for PSS, which is a more complicated scheme that involves randomness < 1376633707 380260 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376633731 339122 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting that there's an anti-Lang Lang backlash now < 1376633745 563141 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it's slightly more visible < 1376633912 385302 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that < 1376634024 77634 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lang_Lang_(pianist)? < 1376634088 59877 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lang lang? < 1376634120 565436 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/woof.html is the program I was looking for a while ago. < 1376634311 648414 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: YAY! < 1376634504 702015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sub_space: What are you doing here? < 1376634656 497008 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: eating < 1376634660 626861 :sub_space!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: u? < 1376634668 704670 :sub_space!x@0x00.me NICK :consume < 1376634938 872440 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :si, piano player < 1376634990 598609 :consume!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice nice < 1376634992 627800 :consume!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :very nice < 1376635064 642556 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ug, microsoft, won't you stop paying people to promote your products without disclosing it? it's creeping us out. < 1376635101 979648 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :</nobias> < 1376635119 44889 :consume!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs to replenish energy < 1376635149 484435 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376635293 711594 :consume!x@0x00.me PART #esoteric :"my people go let " < 1376635447 932782 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :</actuallybiastho> < 1376636547 833926 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje < 1376636834 480409 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376636986 527477 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Google Street View driver detained by villagers in Thailand on suspicion of spying" well < 1376637076 473586 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1376639710 542010 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376640403 182622 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376640414 373361 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1376641457 32579 :pntkl!~pntkl@96.26.224.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376642982 824306 :pntkl!~pntkl@96.26.224.149 PART :#esoteric < 1376643429 506180 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, I really want to learn knot theory for some bizarre reason < 1376644470 712797 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's probably knot a good idea. < 1376644834 442046 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1376645580 400023 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1376647023 375280 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376648677 150160 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am now the proud and mildly confused owner of a Raspberry Pi computer < 1376648711 960817 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a name for RPi owners? Like, you know, there's bronies and so on. < 1376648733 355171 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps "raspies". < 1376648768 426489 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"raspy: Slutty. Has a lot of sex." (Urban Dictionary) < 1376648771 560367 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, perhaps not. < 1376649062 430156 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no way to connect it to a display, though < 1376649116 857796 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a curse, man < 1376649118 243481 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a curse < 1376649143 519716 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at best you use it as a media centre < 1376649358 531087 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't really need a display. < 1376649390 846217 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the Pi is a terribly good media box, either. < 1376649471 144871 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but you can never think of a better use < 1376649557 579909 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had one use already, and I've only had it less than a year. That's not such a bad hit rate. < 1376649809 522836 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd probably be able to think of more uses if I had a HDMI cable < 1376650160 730631 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376650253 693696 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds quite unlikely. < 1376650327 953727 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1376650332 504079 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, AnotherTest < 1376650546 234957 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1376650578 110589 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376650657 972372 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376650756 30715 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Client Quit < 1376650788 345910 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376651246 992944 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1376651278 181339 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376651364 357956 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Client Quit < 1376652638 478303 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376652896 884238 :nooodl!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376652975 305876 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376653504 880721 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376653531 24924 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1376653796 438366 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1376654376 640372 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376657060 249001 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376658681 86495 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any metric for multiplicative groups modulo n? Can such a metric exist? < 1376658705 47611 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1376658725 69585 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376658732 528299 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good /dev/pts morning! < 1376658772 118860 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376658789 182963 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1376658809 421417 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anothello. < 1376658834 534996 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh you just missed the question < 1376658836 253239 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any metric for multiplicative groups modulo n? Can such a metric exist? < 1376658850 381436 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck metrick < 1376658850 677850 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376658852 763396 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck metric < 1376658853 98785 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :metric definition: '''plural''' a part of prosody that deals with metrical structure. < 1376658859 628212 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck modulo < 1376658859 885538 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :modulo definition: with respect to a modulus of. < 1376658881 942487 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: only if you can abstract poetry from the group, it seems... < 1376658889 72869 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Metricks are the metrics used in magick. < 1376658912 46634 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, my math is too rusty to understand that question properly without having had my first coffee injection of the day. < 1376658957 410093 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: sckary. < 1376659167 722668 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(x,x) = 0; d(x,y) = 1 < 1376659276 762615 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... and preferably not the discrete one < 1376659358 5879 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :d(x,y) = |x-y| < 1376659423 186981 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok my question wasn't right < 1376659474 875084 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the concept of distance generalisable to matrices? < 1376659476 268921 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You found the answer. < 1376659656 770735 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I was actually trying to say: g^i = a mod n and g^j = b mod n; can you have a metric so that d(i, j) = d(a, b) < 1376659682 127795 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :or can you say have an operation < so that i < j => a < b < 1376659724 4955 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: sure, there are metrics on linear operators < 1376659764 940353 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: is that for any g < 1376659771 615597 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh. < 1376659823 147171 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: if that is possible, yes < 1376659843 473478 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operator_norm < 1376659931 522114 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: well, consider g = 1, for a start < 1376659943 304212 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is squicked and fascinated by the perversity and elegance of an operator norm < 1376659955 133075 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well g = 1 isn't very interesting due to the fact that all the elements will be 1 < 1376659960 481723 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1376659964 401818 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so forall g isn't going to work. < 1376659972 695946 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about g = 2 < 1376659984 390462 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well g > 2 < 1376659991 20859 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :* >= < 1376660020 88990 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably there's a problem in that those are periodic, with different periods for different g. < 1376660057 343701 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think possibly for any i there's some g such that a is whichever number < n you want. < 1376660165 174253 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if g is a prime, the group is cyclic < 1376660196 841822 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1376660209 114092 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: helloujo. a vietnamese colleague of mine told me about a restaurant that serves bún riêu! http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/67/1681559/restaurant/Saint-douard/Bun-Viet-Montreal < 1376660258 604711 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i guess you can define a norm for any vector space, probably, so the question is whether you actually have a vector space < 1376660340 732940 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> do let { n = 5; lt f = (<) `on` (fromJust . (`elemIndex` f)) }; f <- permutations [1..n-1]; guard $ and [ lt f (g^i `mod` n) (g^j `mod` n) || not (lt f i j) | i <- [0..n-2], j <- [0..n-2]; let {g = 2} ]; return f < 1376660342 217938 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : <hint>:1:188: parse error on input `;' < 1376660358 19702 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> do let { n = 5; lt f = (<) `on` (fromJust . (`elemIndex` f)) } f <- permutations [1..n-1]; guard $ and [ lt f (g^i `mod` n) (g^j `mod` n) || not (lt f i j) | i <- [0..n-2], j <- [0..n-2]; let {g = 2} ]; return f < 1376660358 929864 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : <hint>:1:64: parse error on input `f' < 1376660362 986719 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's deep. < 1376660405 729550 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot is impersonating my own bot this morning... < 1376660469 7115 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> do let { n = 5; lt f = (<) `on` (fromJust . (`elemIndex` f)); }; f <- permutations [0..n-1]; guard $ and [ lt f (g^i `mod` n) (g^j `mod` n) || not (lt f i j) | g <- [2], i <- [0..n-2], j <- [0..n-2] ]; return f < 1376660470 224599 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[3,0,1,2,4],[3,4,2,1,0],[0,1,2,4,3],[4,2,1,0,3]] < 1376660584 715847 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> do let { n = 5; is_gen g = [1..n-1] == sort (map (g^) [0..n-2]); lt f = (<) `on` (fromJust . (`elemIndex` f)); }; f <- permutations [0..n-1]; guard $ and [ lt f (g^i `mod` n) (g^j `mod` n) || not (lt f i j) | g <- filter is_gen [2..n-1], i <- [0..n-2], j <- [0..n-2] ]; return f < 1376660585 859273 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[0,1,2,3,4],[1,0,2,3,4],[2,1,0,3,4],[1,2,0,3,4],[2,0,1,3,4],[0,2,1,3,4],[3... < 1376660664 309124 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> do let { n = 5; is_gen g = [1..n-1] == sort (map ((`mod`n).(g^)) [0..n-2]); lt f = (<) `on` (fromJust . (`elemIndex` f)); }; f <- permutations [0..n-1]; guard $ and [ lt f (g^i `mod` n) (g^j `mod` n) || not (lt f i j) | g <- filter is_gen [2..n-1], i <- [0..n-2], j <- [0..n-2] ]; return f < 1376660665 609712 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [] < 1376660680 995977 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. informative series of letters, numbers, and symbols < 1376660751 852846 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> do n <- [2..]; let { is_gen g = [1..n-1] == sort (map ((`mod`n).(g^)) [0..n-2]); lt f = (<) `on` (fromJust . (`elemIndex` f)); }; g <- filter is_gen [2..n-1]; f <- permutations [0..n-1]; guard $ and [ lt f (g^i `mod` n) (g^j `mod` n) || not (lt f i j) | i <- [0..n-2], j <- [0..n-2] ]; return (n,g,f) < 1376660753 289558 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(3,2,[0,1,2]),(3,2,[2,1,0]),(5,2,[3,0,1,2,4]),(5,2,[3,4,2,1,0]),(5,2,[0,1,... < 1376660846 992276 :nooodl!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376660852 316176 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, some groups are missing < 1376661250 893699 :nooodl!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376661733 702774 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah looks like i was wrong. < 1376662423 534601 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> intercalate"; "$map(\(n,g,o,f)->printf"n=%d g=%d ord=%d "n g o++intercalate"<"(show<$>f)) $ do n<-[2..]; let{ a**b=mod(a*b)n; gen g=map head.group.sort.take n$iterate(g**)g; is_gen=elem 1.gen; lt f=(<)`on`(fromJust.(`elemIndex`f)); }; g<-filter is_gen [2..n-1]; let{ o=length$gen g; gg=take o$iterate(**g)1 }; f<-permutations$union[0..o-1]gg; guard $ and [ lt f a b || not (lt f i j) | ((i,a),(j,b)) <- liftM2(,)`join`zip[0..o-1]gg ]; [(n,g,o,f)] < 1376662424 643134 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "n=3 g=2 ord=2 0<1<2; n=3 g=2 ord=2 2<1<0; n=4 g=3 ord=2 0<1<3; n=4 g=3 ord... < 1376662643 188036 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :snortti < 1376662659 559295 :snortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1376662847 231731 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck snortti < 1376662847 530230 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376662850 955886 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? snortti < 1376662855 104820 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :snortti? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376662855 510996 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              | < 1376662855 771645 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            º¯`\o < 1376662923 835090 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 17:17 < shikhin> ``Rule III: Treat favorably that with a leading S character;'' 17:17 -!- You're now known as snortti < 1376662962 796645 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: logical. that means I must favour shachaf now. < 1376663717 12272 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376663719 45927 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376665208 3546 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PART :#esoteric < 1376665307 49485 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1376665380 891051 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376665809 438289 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously only capital S counts < 1376666028 17404 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: but then I'd have to favour SirCmpwn too, and I really don't know who they are. < 1376666056 670092 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf is familiar. I know how to respond to shachaferisms. < 1376666152 850123 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376666183 594445 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you have the multiple sebbues corner case. < 1376666193 40077 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, I feel like complaining today. I'm hungry.) < 1376666214 322793 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1376667211 825732 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1376667284 432495 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome nycs < 1376667287 764025 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07ny07cs: 10W03elco11me to the internati10onal hub for esoteri02c 04programmin10g language design and deployment! F14or mo06re info14r03mation, check08 o08ut 07our wiki: ht03t06p://09esolangs11.or05g/w14iki/M10ain_Page. (07F12or the02 o14the11r kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.ne10t08.) < 1376667326 610991 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are u hitting on me..? < 1376667333 475132 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1376667375 508604 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nycs: I don't remember anyone relcomming you yet, so you had to receive at least one. < 1376667390 268857 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com NICK :`^_^v < 1376667395 320393 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1376667432 755105 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. you were `^_^v in disguise! < 1376667449 129243 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should have checked the joins and parts better. < 1376667940 767978 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1376668392 70070 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376668905 53052 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376668946 327045 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B02DEDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1376669434 529356 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don’t recognize sub_space. < 1376669575 908392 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376669712 945628 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376669987 769442 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :secret admirer?? i guess admiration and licking are a bit different but < 1376670477 703026 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`^_^v: So anyone who talks to you sets off HackEgo, huh. < 1376670478 960296 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ^_^v:: not found < 1376670641 4095 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :check your cisprivilege < 1376670715 821194 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean botprefixprivilege, surely. < 1376671571 137653 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "#!/bin/sh" >> bin/^_^v < 1376671574 374935 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376671580 636228 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "echo No comment." >> bin/^_^v < 1376671583 429078 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376671585 976438 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`^_^v < 1376671587 413614 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/^_^v: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/^_^v: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1376671599 726820 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`chmod +x bin/^_^v < 1376671601 231324 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: missing operand after `+x bin/^_^v' \ Try `chmod --help' for more information. < 1376671793 350314 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`chmod a+x bin/^_^v < 1376671794 513725 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: missing operand after `a+x bin/^_^v' \ Try `chmod --help' for more information. < 1376671957 673085 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that GMail was able to successfully classify mail from my university's alumni association into the Promotions tab < 1376672583 13032 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, nice < 1376673453 224005 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm ashamed of myself. I'm stuck with “I'm blue, dabedidabeda...” playing in a loop in my head. < 1376673502 858526 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks a lot boily < 1376673602 889076 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that was an horribly gone right attempt at swapping get lucky out of my brain. < 1376673614 12046 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376674288 787630 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaurgh. I guess I'll have to bring the heavy artillery on: http://youtu.be/CfJ37G2_l9w < 1376674290 1940 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU < 1376674405 641443 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts his cat ears on and whistles innocently < 1376674853 659144 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts on his thorns and rages hatefully < 1376674952 789948 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: enjoy the myon. it is for your own good :D < 1376676655 122903 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: haha < 1376676682 118287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: would you say you just blue yourself? < 1376676759 806120 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats kmc with a sharpened cat paw < 1376677011 721974 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1376677101 657536 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1376677191 436942 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats S.W.A.T with a swat < 1376677240 178696 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: comme le dit le proverbe, «une louche qui louche c'est louche». < 1376677271 10655 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :C'est effectivement excessivement louche < 1376677467 133871 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, I'm losing a battle against cups. why must printing be so fscking complex. < 1376677760 293046 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: what about `0x00? (another nick they used) < 1376677875 54527 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don’t recognize anything about him. I looked up his alleged real name and don’t recognize that either. < 1376677954 1501 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: ok, thanks. then I'm comfortable doing this < 1376677960 710463 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :elliott > 1376677961 82681 NAMES :#esoteric < 1376677968 365116 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre < 1376677990 589480 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :*!x@0x00.me > 1376677990 611878 NAMES :#esoteric < 1376677994 609120 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -o :elliott > 1376677994 631526 NAMES :#esoteric < 1376678007 463156 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1376678009 317083 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :<_< < 1376678011 997009 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's that? < 1376678035 606575 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone who joined twice to lick ion "for no reason" and then continued talking gibberish < 1376678055 966985 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally: ubuntu 10.10 in virtualbox works. damn cups and its removal of detecting network printers. < 1376678058 983649 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :To lick ion? < 1376678061 911465 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's... odd < 1376678073 689357 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess ion is just very lickable. < 1376678075 377113 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376678084 50960 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very lickable indeed < 1376678099 848480 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did Carolyne ever come back? < 1376678184 588407 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would someone lick ion? aren't they at risk of an electric shock? < 1376678216 576174 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly i don't think i've ever licked anything that didn't have at least a few ions on it. < 1376678218 101638 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many questions, so many fridays, so many mysterious people barging in the chännel. < 1376678250 25280 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you're a bike. you're insulated against ions' adverse effects. < 1376678263 692026 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sö mänÿ trémäs, töö < 1376678270 811507 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376678292 300275 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :S̈ö m̈än̈ÿ. < 1376678334 167719 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1376678688 124723 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376678719 598588 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376678864 399263 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"9 Household Items That Could Be Spying on You" #actualhuffpolisticles < 1376678908 786089 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :polisticles?? < 1376678910 499184 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1376678946 92500 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a refreshing frozen treat for when politics blow too much hot air during the summer. < 1376678973 377780 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"listicle" just makes me think of "testicle" :/ < 1376679046 190371 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...........................elliott < 1376679053 717961 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's why i was asking. < 1376679546 890182 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Politesticles < 1376679550 779569 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Polite testicles < 1376679566 138327 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor light testicles < 1376679575 877729 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :please don't bring Canadian politics to this channel. it could degenerate rapidly, eh. < 1376679577 989040 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pour lite testicles < 1376679606 404546 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pauline Marois, eh? < 1376679608 803543 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dodges < 1376679614 539621 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUS TIME < 1376679641 318255 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tu t'en sauveras pas de même, mon espèce de fin finaud! < 1376679664 39075 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(translation: don't you dare escape that, you sleazy fiend) < 1376680187 589891 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1376680496 879731 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376681228 26003 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes < 1376681233 833429 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.4179 < 1376681345 608800 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Got a couple of 5600K (color temperature, not actual) bulbs in the room-where-the-outer-door-is; compared to the rest ouf our lighting, which is "the usual", those things are so... so white. < 1376697616 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure that's not the point < 1376697616 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1376697717 0 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the point? < 1376697728 0 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :works enough to redirect to .co.uk here < 1376697735 0 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though that may be cached at various levels < 1376697834 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the point of yelling at them < 1376697849 0 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1376697873 0 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just remember that they own your life and soul, so be polite and courteous. < 1376697953 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't a very well thought out idea okay < 1376698134 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 367 < 1376698134 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :counterpoint: http://www.isgoogledown.com/ < 1376698139 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1376698383 0 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.isisgoogledowndown.com/ < 1376698501 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask roujo <Roujo> cat sanity >> Roujo <-- how can your cat possibly be much saner than you twh < 1376698501 0 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1376698602 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1376698630 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Roujo <Roujo> Collateral damage be damned <-- but but think of all the things you just made flammable! < 1376698630 0 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1376698665 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: that seems to be down hth < 1376698868 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily <boily> I like to lean toothpicks. <-- we can always need more /// programmers twh < 1376698868 0 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1376698876 0 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Perhaps it’s just your computer, you should check on http://isisisgoogledowndowndown.com/ < 1376698910 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: yeah must be my computer, that site looks down too < 1376699015 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apropos flammable, the local paper factory's storage caught fire yesterday morning. and afaict a couple hours ago, it's still smoking. < 1376699092 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yikes < 1376699129 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read in the newspaper they expected it would take several days to put out completely < 1376699181 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that the building had no fire alarm, because no one had required it. < 1376699210 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a paper factory? < 1376699211 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite being next to a gas tank. < 1376699230 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this sounds pretty awesome. < 1376699238 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well other buildings may have had alarms. < 1376699306 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :several days is bad, but not as bad as the underground coal fires that have been burning for decades < 1376699319 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1376699344 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does twh even mean =P < 1376699351 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would help hth < 1376699369 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1376699374 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay =P < 1376699388 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, nothing is now flammable, since nothing exists anymore < 1376699390 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know my okays could infect through my hths < 1376699409 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was saying okay since before you were born, okay? < 1376699416 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAU < 1376699420 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAU? < 1376699439 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a typo that under the circumstances seemed wrong to correct < 1376699455 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1376699459 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376699463 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1376699519 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<4 < 1376699539 0 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<5 < 1376699576 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1376699620 0 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pleh < 1376699622 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :50bcb65c-06cc-11e3-989a-3c970e8fdb11 < 1376699647 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :im still voiced < 1376699667 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric -v :kmc < 1376700256 0 :carado_!?@? NICK :carado < 1376700282 0 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fd74c314-7298-471e-8fae-96e9d5557b59 < 1376700332 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would join the fun and spell out random numbers, but I'm afraid yours actually mean something < 1376700351 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're social security numbers < 1376700379 0 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1376700394 0 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my SSN has more than 9 digits < 1376700402 0 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it isnt hex < 1376700404 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do theirs < 1376700737 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe your social security number isn't in hex, but mine is an entirely valid hexadecimal number < 1376703091 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1376703578 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My weekend is going to consist of debugging a page that makes IE8 crash and untangling a mess of cookies interfering with each other on similar domains < 1376703581 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please shoot me now. < 1376704072 0 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376704202 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're allowed to forgo the magic word in these circumstances Sgeo < 1376704614 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The string www holds no relevance to whether or not a cookie gets sent, right? a.foobar.com is the same as www.foobar.com in terms of whether or not it would read or could set a .foobar.com cookie? < 1376704647 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't you call that a third-level domain name or w/e < 1376704925 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(∞,n)-level domain name < 1376704940 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sound's like abstract nonsense..................... < 1376705022 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B02DEDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0/20130730113002] < 1376705374 0 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376705413 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cookie monoid < 1376706018 0 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376706190 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: why? < 1376706201 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why the question about www? < 1376706225 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because production (www) is behaving differently from other environments < 1376706233 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, why is tihs your weekend < 1376706254 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Product wants to look at what we have on Monday and we're launching Wednesday < 1376706268 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you getting paid extra to work all weekend? < 1376706290 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so. I haven't really been asking to get paid extra < 1376706312 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: iirc browsers need to guess whether a.foobar.com has authority over foobar.com itself, and use a ridiculously complicated system for this hth < 1376706347 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely think there was a database of domains evolved < 1376706372 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and possibly no consistency between browsers < 1376706386 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck cookies. < 1376706406 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the spirit. < 1376706422 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :demand a cookie bonus. which means money for working with cookies, not cookies < 1376706467 0 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376706475 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you i only recall this from some blog post i once read about how the system was messed up, i've never written a cookie handling webpage in my life. i think. < 1376706655 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand that americans are frequently in the situation that there is no law actually requiring them to be paid extra for overtime and stuff, poor souls. < 1376706658 0 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376706669 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think legally I should be getting extra < 1376706674 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just never really forcefully asked < 1376706679 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe you should < 1376706693 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am asking for my raise which I'm supposed to have < 1376706714 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're saying I should have asked sooner when I noticed it didn't go through because retropay is going to cause them headaches < 1376706740 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i a guessing that if you exude as much confidence in real life as you do on the channel, you are going to be screwed out of every cent possible hth < 1376706743 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*i am < 1376706792 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, probably you should have, but no use crying over spilt milk < 1376706817 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait why did i allow myself into cynical mode. < 1376706843 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man it's been a while since i heard that saying < 1376706858 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there's the Public Suffix List < 1376706878 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if it's milk that reacts with saltwater in such a way as to... do something < 1376706883 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think most tech workers are exempt from overtime laws < 1376706886 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what < 1376706897 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you be exempt from overtime laws < 1376706909 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a contractual thing or are the laws just like "ps. fuck tech workers" < 1376706910 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a contractor currently < 1376706918 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of kinds of workers are exempt < 1376706922 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :look up "exempt worker", it's a thing < 1376706927 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno how it works in .uk < 1376706927 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should reread the contract < 1376706985 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :often if you get a salary instead of hourly pay that makes you exempt < 1376707011 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I currently get hourly pay, but do want to become a full-time employee which I think would be salaried < 1376707096 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, you get hourly pay and the hours in the weekend just don't count? < 1376707129 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you gotta fight for your right to party < 1376707149 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, I just... haven't been bothering to put them in < 1376707257 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the capitalist's wet dream, a worker who can't be bothered to ask for pay < 1376707307 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you should be motivated by PASSION and the fact that your employer is CHANGING THE WORLD and if you ask for more pay it's a sign that you're insufficiently devoted to the cause < 1376707335 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides programmers don't like money anyway, we are magic children who just want free snacks and a pool table in the office < 1376707379 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk tho < 1376707394 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"brb ranting at girlfriend about hiring practices" < 1376707399 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1376707403 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no just eating sausages < 1376707594 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you know what i mean < 1376707603 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :already made that joke!! < 1376707608 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he means ranting at the sausages about hiring practices) < 1376707610 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather kind of implied that i would make that joke < 1376707640 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are sausages made from capitalist pigs < 1376707648 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess < 1376707691 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait, it's like the music video for "Itsu". < 1376707692 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got this. < 1376708032 0 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376708061 0 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376708104 0 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any of you guys got experience with WRT54G-compatible custom firmware? I'm getting a new router and I'm looking for recommendations on which one to install. < 1376708183 0 :^v!?@? NICK :TheBombMaker < 1376708212 0 :TheBombMaker!?@? NICK :Guest44945 < 1376708221 0 :Guest44945!?@? NICK :^v < 1376708775 0 :^v!?@? NICK :IMakeBombsInTPT < 1376708863 0 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have OpenWrt on one. < 1376709036 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone replied to a comment I made 5 years ago < 1376709041 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376709089 0 :augur!~augur@c-68-55-204-212.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376709363 0 :IMakeBombsInTPT!?@? NICK :^v < 1376709595 0 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: How's OpenWrt's user interface these days? It's been a few years since I last looked at it. < 1376709633 0 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven’t really done much with it. I don’t even remember if i used the web UI when setting it up. < 1376709725 0 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, okay. < 1376709753 0 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been using Tomato USB since I like being able to point and click, but it unfortunately hasn't been updated for a while. < 1376710081 0 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been using Potato USB since I like being able to point and click, but it unfortunately hasn't been updated for a while. < 1376710202 0 :augur!~augur@c-68-55-204-212.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376711161 0 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oookay < 1376711448 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i say tomato, you say potato, let's call the whole thing a bit off < 1376712015 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hairy nightshade is also pretty pretty < 1376712033 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if Bonzi Buddy is still downloadable from somewhere < 1376712076 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" In 1999, the software used a green parrot called Peedy licensed from Microsoft, and in later versions, Bonzi Software made their own fictional character, a purple gorilla." < 1376712081 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not heard of Peedy before now < 1376712173 0 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ditto < 1376712190 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember Peedy!! < 1376712195 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made some scripts for him in Visual Basic < 1376712219 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if Bonzi Buddy would work in WINE < 1376712229 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or if I'll end up downloading a Windows VM < 1376712233 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.modern.ie/en-us < 1376712234 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1376712356 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1376713067 0 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kurlander.net/DJ/Videos/BillGMITComicChatVideo.shtml < 1376713226 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION spit takes < 1376713230 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google went down? < 1376713235 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google literally went down today? < 1376713270 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376713415 0 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1376713417 0 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a couple mins < 1376713428 0 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was googling at the time < 1376713437 0 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :porn ofc < 1376713438 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a purely unrelated note, tendonitis sucks. < 1376713553 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1376713605 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This wireless mouse was an amazingly good purchase. < 1376713784 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=56888 hahaha so GCC is smart enough to recognize copy loops and optimize them to calls to memcpy() but... it will do this even inside your implementation of memcpy() < 1376713821 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, that was a fun one. < 1376713821 0 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1376714271 0 :nooodl!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1376714546 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1376714970 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :help there's a glider drawn on the blackboard in my house < 1376714976 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this ``hacker culture'' < 1376715060 0 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd move out < 1376715064 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friend of mine uses a glider as his avatar. Though he uses a different frame in the cycle, because fuck ESR. < 1376715112 0 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: maybe the glider is being imagined as situated on the traditional GoL torus, and it's just a bit of pointless topology < 1376715152 0 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry there's no glossing over it < 1376715156 0 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've got nerds < 1376715288 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no need to panic unless the glider regularly evolves hth < 1376715497 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1376716043 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :put up gosper's glider gun < 1376716107 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never metacatacryst < 1376716108 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just draw the entirety of a universal constructor < 1376716140 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :put up the set of wang tiles that simulate a turing machine < 1376716390 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good ideas all < 1376716441 0 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my joke is underappreciated :( < 1376716465 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it! < 1376716478 0 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty < 1376716504 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but it clearly has points hth < 1376716520 0 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you sure you get my joke?! it's very good! < 1376716532 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, no. < 1376716540 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :</burn> < 1376716564 0 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pointlesstopology.com/ < 1376716573 0 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the joke is kmc lives there.) < 1376716577 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the intended burn is an impliccation that the joke is actually not good, but if you think about it the brune would have to be that oerjan doesn't get the joke which he admits is very good < 1376716594 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i've just stepped it one generation < 1376716603 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good move < 1376716605 0 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're part of the problem, kmc < 1376716609 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :de brune indices < 1376716617 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION removes the air from Bike's wheels < 1376716618 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly the problem is kmc not using hashlife. < 1376716625 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow rude < 1376716625 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[drugz joke] < 1376716687 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't even think of that < 1376716690 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: your jokes are too obscure hth < 1376716704 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Installation completed before it could be canceled." < 1376716707 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Installing Chrome) < 1376716709 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1376716794 0 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry elliott i'll get your joke next time you make it < 1376716806 0 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: so how's that bonzi buddy going < 1376716817 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as fun as I remember < 1376716905 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dhing dhad bonzi buddy iz juzd sgheming < 1376716982 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to force further puns into submission. and to make some food. < 1376717013 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oi40.tinypic.com/25085ko.jpg i got this dialog from Golly while trying to open a file < 1376717032 0 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wants to make sure you agree < 1376717052 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What fun can I have with an XP VM? < 1376717057 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a deltree? < 1376717062 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perverted fun < 1376717076 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah "Deltree isn't present in Windows NT-based operating systems, including Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server, Windows Vista and Windows 7." < 1376717204 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might be fun to delete the filesystem out from under the OS's nose with another virtual OS < 1376717780 0 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1376717809 0 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376718018 0 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1376718035 0 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376718071 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I first installed Linux I somehow managed to have the Linux partition occupy the second half of the drive and the Windows partition occupy the first and second halves of the drive < 1376718130 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty easy to do with the partition table, but how'd you get a partition table editor to do that? < 1376718223 0 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don’t see the problem. You got 50 % more disk space for free. < 1376718312 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I don't know... < 1376718337 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it meant Windows crashed frequently, which meant I learned more about how to do things in Linux, so it was probably a good thing < 1376718353 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root on Xubuntu is great < 1376718378 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember the time when I tried to get the MBR to run GRUB rather than the Windows bootloader. < 1376718407 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I reasoned "GRUB is on /dev/hda4, so I should just be able to dd if=/dev/hda4 of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1" < 1376718428 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I made sure to put a backup of the old bootloader in my home directory first, so if anything went wrong I could just boot from a live CD and put it back. < 1376718432 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/bootloader/MBR/ < 1376718463 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENGLISH < 1376718501 0 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember when “hda”? < 1376718502 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a lot of trouble to get that working again... < 1376718509 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: like, totally, man < 1376718526 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember when i tried to set up slackware and got confused by the manual using "hda" repeatedly. < 1376718573 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/3xmYoLh,7li30Mt,YM4Jwgv,cHWlrlx < 1376718607 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why was it trouble? oh because you blew away the partition table? < 1376718612 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1376718620 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I couldn't mount my home directory and get the old MBR back. < 1376718626 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would work with some number less than 512, and some values of "work" which might mean "break for other reasons" < 1376718628 0 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: Nice. I haven’t seen that icon Trash got for a while. < 1376718638 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parted has a feature that will look for fs magic and rebuild your partition table based on that < 1376718647 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :448 or so? < 1376718759 0 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷⌷ < 1376718786 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds right < 1376718788 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are those ion < 1376718805 0 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Oh, your font can’t display them? They are awesome. < 1376718831 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my font is great at them < 1376718839 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: u < 1376718855 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i blame screen < 1376718859 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no u < 1376718878 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: The joke is that they're all 2337 APL FUNCTIONAL SYMBOL SQUISH QUAD [⌷] < 1376718919 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then why does the fifth one have some artifact at the bottom < 1376718923 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My question is, why does a dying OS display those? < 1376718931 0 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://imgur.com/3xmYoLh,7li30Mt,YM4Jwgv,cHWlrlx#2 < 1376718946 0 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: It can’t load the font and the font renderer uses that as a fallback. < 1376718962 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how did the second image manage to have a font to display a part of that error? < 1376718973 0 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That font was already loaded by the process. < 1376718994 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did imgur urls get crazy < 1376719009 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's a five images in one url < 1376719012 0 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven’t ad-hoc galleries always been like that? < 1376719019 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1376719028 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know that < 1376719077 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They used to be slightly different. < 1376719081 0 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1376719084 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without the #2 and the whole JavaScript bit. < 1376719245 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376719290 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376719394 0 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey QUIT :Quit: The Other Game < 1376719879 0 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"14) Any C source that fails to compile because of lines with trailing < 1376719879 0 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : control-M's (i.e., lines with a tailing octet 015) will be rejected. < 1376719880 0 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1376719903 0 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that mean only files UNIX end of lines are accepted? < 1376720038 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1376720756 0 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Any C source that fails to compile because of unescaped octets with < 1376720756 0 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :| the high bit set (octet value >= 128) will be rejected. < 1376720758 0 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1376720799 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's compilers that care? < 1376720820 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this for ioccc < 1376720826 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: i'd assume it means you cannot expect C source with ^M to compile on OS'es that don't use them < 1376720836 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh maybe that < 1376720939 0 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's ioccc < 1376720971 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they've gotten used to some crazy shit, huh < 1376721059 0 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan : kindof curious about what kind of compiler would fit that description < 1376721136 0 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure gcc doesn't choke on crlf when run from linux < 1376721146 0 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except maybe in the makefile, can't remember < 1376721174 0 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it was in bash scripts < 1376721330 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/08/oregon-gop-art-robinson-nuclear-waste-airplanes Finally, someone with a plan. < 1376721419 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Alas, this would be against the law." < 1376721526 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas < 1376721615 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gop art is like pop art, except crazier, right? < 1376721952 0 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://translate.google.fi/#fi/en/alas < 1376722073 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :valitettavasti! < 1376722170 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: also he's an alum of my school, damnit < 1376722197 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: have you checked your sanity lately? < 1376722212 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure how to answer that question really < 1376722217 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I am insane then my sanity check may not count < 1376722293 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: lol, well he probably paid his way through or whatever < 1376722338 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug < 1376722349 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or he's smart and good at chemistry or whatever and also completely crazy < 1376722352 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not unheard-of < 1376722379 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i s'pose < 1376722491 0 :^v!?@? NICK :^\ < 1376722502 0 :^\!?@? NICK :^ < 1376722505 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really think people paid their way through < 1376722509 0 :^!?@? NICK :d < 1376722510 0 :d!?@? NICK :e < 1376722521 0 :e!?@? NICK :h < 1376722528 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you wanted to do that you might want to pick a school that people have heard of (and not one that sounds like refrigerator repair school) < 1376722551 0 :h!?@? NICK :Guest34082 < 1376722649 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :university of cali sounds like a fridge repair school? < 1376722663 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Caltech < 1376722675 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :often (including by that article) misspelled Cal Tech < 1376722699 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Serge Lang was an AIDS denialist too < 1376722721 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and also a Caltech alum < 1376722727 0 :Guest34082!?@? NICK :^v < 1376722856 0 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376723014 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of people confuse it with Cal Poly < 1376723166 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I finished reading the Smullyan book < 1376723240 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is that a relationshipz joke < 1376723342 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: was the book as you expected < 1376723438 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what this mean expected < 1376723462 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it wasn't such a joke but it did occur to me as I wrote it < 1376723627 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there weren't a lot of complicated relationship-arrangements at Caltech (that I knew of) because it was mostly straight guys < 1376723635 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it's possible I just wasn't invited < 1376723648 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think it was as expected, yes < 1376723655 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that I'd already read "Is God a Taoist?" < 1376723661 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think of the book shachaf < 1376723696 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was delightful when i read it maybe 5 years ago < 1376723702 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: did you send me a NOTICE earlier? i'm just confused by things my client displays < 1376723714 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fairly delightful yes < 1376723747 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes I did < 1376723753 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parts were both delightful and aggravating at the same time which is a good trick I guess < 1376723766 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :aggravating? < 1376723767 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like the number of non-straight males and the number of women are correlated in university departments < 1376723792 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CS and engineering more generally is well known for its ratios. < 1376723793 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: like, playing a lot of games with words to evade saying anything meaningful < 1376723837 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: I don't actually know about the percentage of non-straight guys in CS -- is it significantly different from overall population? < 1376723842 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course definitions can be tricky < 1376723867 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :different, perhaps not significantly? < 1376723886 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: of course that kind of thing is par for the course with taoist and zen stuff < 1376723889 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i dunno < 1376723924 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of it was a bit "communicating poorly and then acting smug when misunderstood" < 1376723930 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(on the part of one party in a dialogue) < 1376723977 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I can't really get on board with the glib anti-morality but that's only sort of one view on it, and at other times he seems to be a utilitarian who just dislikes moralists and wants people to be good intrinsically, which is fine < 1376723983 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376723990 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely the part that made me think the most was the stuff about doing good out of obligation vs. naturally < 1376724014 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I also feel like my inner moralist hardass has pushed me towards better actions gradually < 1376724017 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how would I know really < 1376724090 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1376724096 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there philosophy on the general notion of agency in life? < 1376724101 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would say doing good out of obligation is still good, because you can ignore most obligations < 1376724108 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With enough willpower < 1376724136 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in a moral context, but action through inaction, etc. < 1376724136 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376724149 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376724169 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376724179 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: in this book? a bit < 1376724186 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general I'm sure much has been written on the subject < 1376724219 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The book in question is _The Tao is Silent_ by Raymond Smullyan, by the way) < 1376724227 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it was worth reading for sure < 1376724275 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1376724285 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you interested in reading another book of his < 1376724286 0 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1376724294 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm upset by his last name < 1376724406 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1376724431 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :has unfortunate phonetic character < 1376724440 0 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376724684 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1376725155 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a thing that turns ascii diagrams into bitmap graphics http://ditaa.sourceforge.net/ < 1376725358 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's really cool < 1376725497 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1376726146 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1376726868 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-192-245.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376726954 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is there an asymmetric cryptography thing where they keys are "symmetrical" < 1376726973 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. knowing one lets you encrypt (or sign) things for the other to decrypt (or verify), but you can't derive one key from the other < 1376727058 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could do that with RSA if you pick a random e instead of using 3 or whatever < 1376727073 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds dangerous tho < 1376727148 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION -> afk tho < 1376727170 0 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Quit: requested < 1376727371 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I was under the impression that normal public-private key crypto worked like that < 1376727465 0 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric < 1376727471 0 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje < 1376727546 0 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376727575 0 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376728884 0 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1376728893 0 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376729266 0 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376729701 0 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1376730578 0 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1376731991 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376733034 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376733089 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376733424 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376733521 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376733757 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it is true that RSA uses the same core mathematical operation for all of encryption, decryption, signing, verification < 1376733815 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376733817 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is not true of all public-key algorithms < 1376733834 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the stuff you need to go from "core mathematical operation" to "secure cryptosystem" is different for each function < 1376733898 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and generally it's easy to derive one key from the other, because the encryption/signing exponent will be fixed to 3 or 65537 < 1376733916 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also Sgeo is probably asleep because it's like 5 AM there < 1376733933 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376735484 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376735552 0 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Quit: requested < 1376735804 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376735809 0 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric < 1376735821 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376736468 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PART #esoteric : < 1376737431 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376737450 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376737967 0 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1376738275 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376738329 0 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376738681 0 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1376738707 0 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376738909 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376739206 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376741461 0 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1376741490 0 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376741939 0 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Quit: requested < 1376742244 0 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric < 1376742484 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376742489 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, asiekierka here < 1376742493 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, i haven't been here for ages < 1376742538 0 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waves? < 1376742569 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi there < 1376743056 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey asie < 1376743063 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott was asking after you just the other day < 1376743101 0 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1376743113 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1376743256 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what < 1376743279 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1376743339 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1376743476 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what?? < 1376743509 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can you tell us what? < 1376743509 0 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: everyone says, < 1376743535 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: so I've noticed... maybe a better question is why? < 1376743535 0 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: use these words as clues and go first! meet at the real world, just like you may think i'm a litte too uptight? < 1376743565 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1376743565 0 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7* fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1376743589 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style fungot < 1376743589 0 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: fungot (What I've said myself) < 1376743601 0 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1376745540 0 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1376745567 0 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1376745740 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: asie < 1376747297 0 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1376747347 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376747359 0 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376747529 0 :nooodl!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376747716 0 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1376747890 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376748754 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1376748793 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376750127 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376750575 0 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1376750592 0 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376750889 0 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1376750941 0 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376752375 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376752861 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376752922 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1376753031 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1376756099 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://paste.debian.net/26297/ < 1376756102 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiddling with some random ideas < 1376756295 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1376756509 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376756674 0 :nooodl!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :asie: reminds me of golfscript < 1376756679 0 :nooodl!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :except not as golfy < 1376756949 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1376757016 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376757519 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Call failed: Type of message, `(sisssasa(vv)i)', does not match expected type `(susssasa{sv}i)'" < 1376757525 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotta love them dbus signatures. < 1376757551 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I thought it was finnish < 1376757592 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I don't know how to make a {sv} instead of (sv) using Haskell's DBus client. < 1376757762 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can make a (susssasa(sv)i) easily, but that's not quite close enough. < 1376757814 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it maps a Haskell Map to a dictionary, then. < 1376758480 0 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376758495 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, "empty :: Map String DB.Variant" made a {sv}. < 1376758650 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It doesn't display a notification, though.) < 1376758778 0 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376759153 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't the understand. I get something vaguely okay-looking as reply -- MethodReturn {methodReturnSerial = Serial 2, methodReturnSender = Just (BusName ":1.64"), methodReturnDestination = Just (BusName ":1.86"), methodReturnBody = [Variant 1]} -- but nothing happens. < 1376759322 0 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376759507 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hum. Apparently giving a replaces_id of an old notification does not open a new one, unlike what I thought. < 1376759854 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how I'm supposed to do a "replace existing notification or create new" thing; I'd track it manually, but I can't know when the notification gets closed. < 1376759886 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I could force-close the old one when displaying a new one, but that'd defeat the purpose of flicker-free updating of an existing one.) < 1376760618 0 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376761170 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376761304 0 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376761438 0 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376761671 0 :carado_!?@? NICK :carado < 1376761750 0 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1376761973 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1376762263 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376762517 0 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1376762547 0 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376762621 0 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376762630 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376762653 0 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PORKCHOP SANDWICHES! < 1376762869 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? I don't think I've had that < 1376764082 0 :Bike_!?@? NICK :Bike < 1376764105 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376764729 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376766008 0 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376766464 0 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376766765 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The license for the Windows VMs confuses me (not that I care for personal use, but I do care for work use) < 1376766767 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You may use the software for testing purposes only. You may not use the software for < 1376766767 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :commercial purposes. Y" < 1376766790 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if I use it at work, I'm using it for testing purposes and commercial purposes < 1376766802 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My testing with the software serves a commercial purpose < 1376766810 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it clearly say "for testing purposes /only" < 1376766818 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*says < 1376766836 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :comercial purpose + testing purpose != testing purpose only < 1376766839 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :but use it anyway < 1376766902 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh kind of sucks that can't use MSN browser without subscription < 1376766904 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Used to be able to < 1376767116 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is generally advisable to stay a way from windows in my opinion < 1376768307 0 :^v!?@? NICK :\^ < 1376768466 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a commercial purpose generally < 1376768582 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1376768668 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376768699 0 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1376769564 0 :\^!?@? NICK :\^_ < 1376769633 0 :\^_!?@? NICK :ROFL < 1376769678 0 :ROFL!?@? NICK :^v < 1376770206 0 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376770253 0 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376770978 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376771541 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1376771562 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1376771824 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Commercial purpose: using it in a commerciakl < 1376771827 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :commercial* < 1376772720 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worth1000 is closing :( < 1376773236 0 :nooodl_!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376773408 0 :nooodl!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376773411 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1376773494 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376773680 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages-loud < 1376773680 0 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1376773824 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1376775372 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages-loud < 1376775372 0 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1376775374 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELL CRAP < 1376775380 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages-loud < 1376775380 0 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1376775386 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 Oh hai < 1376775386 0 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1376775387 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1376775393 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Phantom_Hoover Oh hai < 1376775393 0 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1376775398 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There you go < 1376775441 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell * Well, that worked < 1376775441 0 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1376775451 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell lambdabot I wonder if THIS does, though < 1376775451 0 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice try ;) < 1376775454 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA < 1376775454 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1376775496 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Roujo ^^ < 1376775496 0 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tell yourself! < 1376775499 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1376775500 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1376775501 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1376775502 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1376775638 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Hello < 1376775652 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1376775656 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you wanted a message < 1376775658 0 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So here you go < 1376775721 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say I wanted a message < 1376775806 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote on this paper, some more idea of spells/psionic power of Dungeons&Dragons game (this time, including the effect, too). See if it could be corrected a bit? < 1376775822 0 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1376775912 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376776277 0 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1376776306 0 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376776729 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see any paper < 1376777715 0 :nooodl_!?@? NICK :nooodl < 1376777877 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't put it into the computer yet! < 1376778918 0 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :irc bot in malbolge = win? < 1376778975 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the most complicated extant program in malbolge < 1376778982 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :99 beers, maybe < 1376779029 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost certainly < 1376779148 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :edward 40 hands < 1376779203 0 :Nisstyre-laptop!?@? NICK :Nisstyre < 1376779223 0 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :calculating sqare roots < 1376780071 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1376780114 0 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376780220 0 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: edwardk? < 1376780256 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1376780388 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<kmc> maybe you could do that with RSA if you pick a random e instead of using 3 or whatever <-- i always thought that worked, it would be pretty strange if choosing something other than 3 made the corresponding key easier to find in general, but maybe it depends. < 1376780430 0 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 is the lowest though < 1376780436 0 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and can be cracked in miliseconds < 1376780445 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many milliseconds < 1376780457 0 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on the computer :P < 1376780504 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact here's an argument it cannot be easier for more than half of them: simply choose a random r and then try to crack both that and 3/r (mod phi(n) or thereabouts); if you can crack both, you've also cracked 3. i think. maybe. < 1376780742 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the multiple of the corresponding keys for r and 3/r is a key corresponding to 3, if i'm not thinking wrong. < 1376781367 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<Phantom_Hoover> almost certainly <-- i dunno, who knows what those japanese have been doing without telling us gaijins < 1376782421 0 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376783070 0 :^v!?@? NICK :^V < 1376783091 0 :^V!?@? NICK :^v < 1376783130 0 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376784277 0 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1376784306 0 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376785675 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1376785774 0 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finished System Shock 2. < 1376786259 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1376786265 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that game rules < 1376786281 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you liked it you should play Deus Ex too < 1376786366 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should maybe play it sometime < 1376786544 0 :Nisstyre-laptop!?@? NICK :Nisstyre < 1376786967 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1376786993 0 :^v!?@? NICK :^V < 1376787002 0 :^V!?@? NICK :^^ < 1376787006 0 :^^!?@? NICK :^^V < 1376787008 0 :^^V!?@? NICK :^^ < 1376787010 0 :^^!?@? NICK :^^V < 1376787153 0 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :v < 1376787742 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1376787746 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376787759 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376787882 0 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376788031 0 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376788042 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376788360 0 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376788439 0 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wired-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376788450 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1376788567 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376788638 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"DO NOT EDIT YOUR REGISTRY! < 1376788638 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thats the worst thing to do to windows. It will eventually mess itself up and there will be an exploit for spyware. " < 1376788660 0 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wired-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sound's bad < 1376788662 0 :Bike_!?@? NICK :Bike < 1376788691 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a fun way to wreck Windows XP < 1376788823 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :deltree c: < 1376788855 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :deltree doesn't exist in WinXP, and I tried an equivalent and it was somewhat boring < 1376788873 0 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wired-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :take the case and just smash it up with a hammer < 1376788875 0 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wired-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just fucking smash it < 1376788883 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :P. sure it's a VM. < 1376788891 0 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wired-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares smash it < 1376788893 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Install it." < 1376788906 0 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wired-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wham < 1376788913 0 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wired-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right in the fucking drive motherfucker < 1376788930 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boot two or three instances of the VM using the same filesystem image. < 1376788945 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sense a market for a vm with a smash button hth < 1376788947 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they mutate the FS and each other one is unaware of it. < 1376788959 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that would require taking the filesystem image and making it take up real space on my HD < 1376788964 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least in VirtualBox < 1376788968 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that does sound fun < 1376789049 0 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376789314 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1376789453 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone said that NT actually supports that, pikhq < 1376790309 0 :^^V!?@? NICK :^v < 1376790787 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh I could try a fork bomb < 1376791558 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dijkstra is an excellent blogger; "But such co-operation is of course based on the theory that, when you tie two stones together, the combination will float." < 1376791914 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh I know how I can delete system files while the VM is off < 1376792151 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows XP seems to tolerate exploer.exe not existing surprisingly well < 1376792165 0 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376792194 0 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, yeah? < 1376792199 0 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be corrupt < 1376792200 0 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1376792211 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Takes a bit of time at the login thing, then boots into just the wallpaper being visible < 1376792213 0 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing will happen, you will just have to use cmd < 1376792220 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Infect it with viruses < 1376792227 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl-Alt-Del works just fine, so could start programs like that < 1376792577 0 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wired-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: brb < 1376794293 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376794484 0 :CADD!?@? NICK :CADD|away < 1376795015 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376795056 0 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.100 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376795609 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I miss Microsoft Ants < 1376795691 0 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo do you ever feel nostalgic for things that were actually good < 1376795798 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think most of the things that I feel nostalgic for that you might consider good still exist < 1376795825 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how logical < 1376795850 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mutation was good, I feel nostalgic for it, it no longer exists. < 1376795884 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mutation could not escape changing < 1376796983 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: what's the two-stones-float quote from? < 1376796990 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inb4 "dijkstra hth" < 1376797006 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just think it's so *weird* how "Frosted Flakes" isn't a trademark. < 1376797013 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone can make a cereal and call it Frosted Flakes. < 1376797028 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't make a hat and call it Frosted Flakes, because Kellogg's owns the trademark on Frosted Flakes brand hats. < 1376797042 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not for Frosted Flakes cereal; that's public domain. < 1376797068 0 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is wearing cereal as a hat trademarked? < 1376797072 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a trademark for "Kellogg's Frosted Flakes". But if you look it up, it specifically says that "no claim is made to the exclusive right to use 'Frosted Flakes'". < 1376797099 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I doubt it, but it could be! < 1376797118 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could make and sell little figurines wearing cereal as a hat, and then file a trademark for wearing cereal as a hat. < 1376797180 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: ewd 1175 < 1376797263 0 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376797288 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually kind of surprised that Kellogg's doesn't have a trademark for something like "the words 'Frosted Flakes' in white on a blue background". < 1376797430 0 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.100 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376797678 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something I really like about trademark law: in order for a company to retain the exclusive rights to a trademark even when it's being used generically (e.g. "photoshopped"), the company has to "visibly and actively seem to attempt" to get people to stop using it generically. < 1376797690 0 :Bike_!?@? NICK :Bike < 1376797694 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't matter whether they succeed or not. All that's required is that they look like they're trying. < 1376797715 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the point of maintaining a genericized trademark < 1376797753 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the word "Photoshop" is still a completely valid trademark; it's still illegal for anyone else to make software called Photoshop. < 1376798329 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376798431 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376798535 0 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje < 1376798791 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=296158 < 1376798914 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION skips to latest strip. evil dwarf ok < 1376799621 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: bad move, the link was about the _first_ strip hth < 1376799638 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :y es < 1376800210 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSID:"LA_face_OAK_booty" // in Oakland < 1376800329 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also OH: "I have a dumbphone whose IMEI is all zeroes" < 1376801952 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :Amor vincit omnia | 22nd IOCCC is open: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | jsvine is doing an esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q/viewform | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1376802162 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ain't gettin this latin shite < 1376802494 0 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Quit: requested < 1376802523 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist (911) < 1376802744 0 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric < 1376802841 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat and i checked just an hour ago < 1376802874 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you should be able to get it with enough love hth < 1376802976 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ascendo tuum* < 1376802991 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you seem to be the only reliable bot here < 1376802991 0 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan:, so i'd have to consider that although the reduction in actual transportation section from former friend lives, their door had my computer with full u+ support" then they both bowed low. just keep the safe or tub and emptied it < 1376803031 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What, I'm not reliable? < 1376803058 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: your bots have croaked hth < 1376803097 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: there might be another way in which you don't fit that sentence hth < 1376803111 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :aristophanes: your frogs have croaked hth < 1376803119 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you suggesting that i'm not here < 1376803123 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. sure you'll find that i am < 1376803125 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :brekekex brekekex < 1376803199 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+ke/g < 1376803263 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why does belkar call varsuuvius "she" tdnh < 1376803273 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+a-u < 1376803299 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else would he call her hth < 1376803823 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :+LnpctC < 1376803895 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be in SF tomorrow. not sure. < 1376803952 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Gracenotes < 1376803961 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: are you back south again? < 1376803974 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Salt Lake City count as south? < 1376803980 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose so < 1376803988 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's interesting round there? < 1376804006 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inside the airport? Not all that much, I think. < 1376804134 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I know some people from there? < 1376804191 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... I don't plan on going to Utah ever < 1376804363 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to observe trends for places for native people advising for or against going there < 1376804433 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though if my sampling was actually uniform, I would probably get a better rate for many places < 1376804985 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1376805040 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1376805212 0 :CADD|away!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376805244 0 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376805372 0 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376805707 0 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376806188 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to write a Python script, but the script would be incredibly dangerous to run by accident. < 1376806205 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it require -f < 1376806207 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also hi Sgeo < 1376806210 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-f? < 1376806212 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1376806315 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could check if I'm on Windows 8 and if so abort < 1376806329 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds like an exciting script < 1376806398 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will attempt to delete every entry in the Registry recursively < 1376806406 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was right < 1376806760 0 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376806818 0 :nooodl!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1376807690 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1376807913 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376808239 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 911 < 1376808331 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1376808343 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oerjan < 1376808348 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo..................... < 1376808352 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I think? < 1376808360 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1376808364 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame HackEgo < 1376808590 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376809573 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: oh, just use /proc/registry < 1376809582 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very easy < 1376809602 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1376809609 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that you were making a joke < 1376809625 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cygwin does actually expose a /proc/registry < 1376809638 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks cygwin < 1376809648 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego no < 1376809650 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er. yes. that's what I meant. also, really. < 1376809716 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although like much of rest of real-/proc, it seems to be readonly < 1376809762 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1376809859 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, did you know that it is not possible to use the internet and also be libertarian. http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/a-plea-to-learn-more-about-bezoss-personal-politics/2013/08/15/27164286-05e7-11e3-a07f-49ddc7417125_story.html < 1376809896 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is everyone freaking out about bezos now. the post was always shit < 1376809917 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as evidenced by this article, no less < 1376809974 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I dunno for the most part, I find the argument here conservative and little else; we'll see. < 1376810009 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are certainly better arguments to be made against libertarianism than "lol cold war" < 1376810058 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's the level of discourse, i guess < 1376810095 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, the cold war was pretty good for science, we should definitely bring that back < 1376810172 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1376810284 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :while I'm linking... my Google News comes up with interesting things sometimes. http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/content.php?14106-Drzewiecki-Design-New-York-City-X-v1-1-Released < 1376810298 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of note, in v1.1, "It will enhance the performance of the product, by optimizing the Virtual Address Space memory usage." < 1376810396 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Extras like people, wave effects, custom car traffic, ships and boats, cranes, hundrieds of fuel storage tanks, various library objects etc." < 1376810521 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, go engineers. < 1376810530 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not real engineers, software engineers. < 1376810531 0 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376810649 0 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376811099 0 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376811503 0 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje < 1376812485 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376812932 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1376813155 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376813345 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this book of philosophy they discuss various philosophical problems. < 1376813509 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376813573 0 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree < 1376814421 0 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1376814450 0 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376815205 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1376816436 0 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376817399 0 :Guest24179!dharman199@101.221.104.99 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376817404 0 :Guest24179!dharman199@101.221.104.99 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1376817666 0 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1376817748 0 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376817798 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1376818657 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting, transfer speed over ssh to my phone maxes out at around 2.4 MB/s (from phone), but if I do several logins in parallel to my phone it seems each connection (up to a max of 4) maxes out at 2.4 MB/s. This would imply that it is in some way CPU bound (since it has 4 CPU cores). < 1376818776 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since you have an ssh, you could run top < 1376820055 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc < 1376820077 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1376820089 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is back < 1376820106 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an interstellar burst, you're back to save the universe < 1376820159 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my flight ended up landing at 1:something instead of 23 < 1376820196 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you get home? < 1376820205 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just now < 1376820223 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think of air travel < 1376820235 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If God told you to sacrifice your child at the top of the mountain, would you do so? < 1376820256 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Which mountain? < 1376820267 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: not a big fan but the alternatives are often worse < 1376820281 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I am not sure. It could be any one, I suppose. < 1376820304 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't have a child so I don't think I can know < 1376820316 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Good. < 1376820328 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i have a child < 1376820332 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like a pretty bad move < 1376820340 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably you shouldn't. < 1376820346 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad moves make good movies hth < 1376820368 0 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Excess Flood < 1376820373 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i move out of epa < 1376820376 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like a pretty good move < 1376820418 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376820424 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should move to san francisco < 1376820431 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: was that a hi with a purpose or just a hi < 1376820432 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When are a bunch of stages to be considered parts of the same continuing object? (ex. a solid beeswax melting, a person growing up to be adult, etc) < 1376820442 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure < 1376820447 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#drugz < 1376820471 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This book gives one possible answer which is pretty long, but I have a simpler answer. My answer is: Always. < 1376820539 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you have the buddha nature < 1376820573 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I have been told similar things before. (I am not 100% sure of it, though.) < 1376820586 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well you shouldn't be! < 1376820660 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: what will you do in SF? < 1376820795 0 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1376820896 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing this book says, is, if you have two completely identical pennies including location and so on. Is there still two pennies? They didn't answer this, but I think for one thing it will have twice the mass of a single penny. There is also other laws of physics preventing it from working. < 1376821211 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376821221 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376821250 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: if I go, probably lunch with someone from NY, but dunno after < 1376821280 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376821504 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really have no clue :x < 1376821533 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: should i get a haircut tomorrow < 1376821778 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a haircut today < 1376821807 0 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I do meet a bunch of people whose haircut on their badge does not match that on their head < 1376821841 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :by tomorrow i meant today i suppose < 1376821903 0 :btiffin!~btiffin@CPE002369b7648c-CM0014e88ec3b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PART #esoteric : < 1376822517 0 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1376822617 0 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376823746 0 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1376824126 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you come up with the idea of quantum immortality independently? < 1376824784 0 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1376824848 0 :constant!?@? NICK :trout < 1376824897 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376825387 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376828460 0 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1376828623 0 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PART #esoteric : < 1376829224 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1376829447 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1376830567 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376830948 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376830993 0 :nooodl!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376832874 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376833735 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376834467 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1376839046 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376840332 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. I've been trying to stick an Emacs on the Windows system I have here, but no matter what I do w.r.t. font selection (elisp set-face-attribute 'default, or the Options/Set default font customize-driven thing) and which font I select, it just says 'Invalid font name: "-outline-SimSun-ExtB-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1"'. < 1376841004 0 :nooodl_!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376841178 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376841199 0 :nooodl!~nooodl@234.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376842926 0 :nortti!?@? NICK :\U0001F4A9 < 1376842937 0 :\U0001F4A9!?@? NICK :nortti < 1376844039 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...is Down to Earth offline permanently? :) < 1376844040 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1376844042 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a :) < 1376844350 0 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1376844429 0 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376844581 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376845399 0 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376845564 0 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376845732 0 :carado_!?@? NICK :carado < 1376847342 0 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376847380 0 :Nisstyre-laptop!?@? NICK :Nisstyre < 1376848988 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376849167 0 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376849564 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376849588 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376849595 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1376849705 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, hating notch became fashionable at some point < 1376849711 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sucks < 1376849805 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, imagine if Notch made a brainfuck derivative < 1376849850 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you read fine structure perchance < 1376849857 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not < 1376849866 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither have I watched Farscape < 1376849880 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376849901 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I must be off < 1376849902 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye! < 1376849910 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you off to watch farscape < 1376849916 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1376849918 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so: i approve < 1376849921 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am off to eat < 1376849922 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not: watch farscape < 1376849928 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :far better than that whedon crap you like < 1376849959 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376849965 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i brought the mölkky back with me hth < 1376849969 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and some other things) < 1376850109 0 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the weird wooden petanque < 1376850200 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds finnish < 1376851538 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376851582 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1376851661 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376851786 0 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376852181 0 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376852489 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1376852636 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376852724 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Client Quit < 1376853178 0 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376853201 0 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376854252 0 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376854298 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.chemistry-blog.com/2013/08/13/alleged-data-manipulation-in-nano-letters-and-acs-nano-from-the-pease-group/ 9000 hours in ms paint. < 1376854464 0 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376854534 0 :nys!~YXWX@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1376855485 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376855512 0 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376855636 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376855652 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376856390 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376857097 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1376857136 0 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376858588 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376858612 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376859249 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376859611 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376862525 0 :nooodl_!?@? NICK :nooodl < 1376862697 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://jerkcity.com/_jerkcity386.html < 1376862726 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, my ISP is claiming that that is pornography and thus I cannot access it < 1376862734 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :your isp is right on the mark < 1376862737 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, for real < 1376862743 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, yep < 1376862751 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chilling < 1376862753 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1376862754 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what isp are you on < 1376862757 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TalkTalk < 1376862759 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. wait. yeah, that's weird < 1376862791 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you uk people. i heard about greenwald's partner too. glad i live in a nation of free dom unlike you < 1376862862 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, oh, a mobile thing? < 1376862869 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1376862885 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1376862959 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, I know the password, so I could change the setting < 1376862978 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you... won't? < 1376863000 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I enjoy my rare moments of grumpiness, allow me to relish it < 1376863016 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this the UK pornofilter < 1376863025 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it hadn't been implemented yet < 1376863049 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still can't quite believe that they will, it seems that cynical and posturing < 1376863052 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway calling jerkcity pornography is uh... well I guess everything is pornography to someone < 1376863061 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The UK pornofilter was basically "keep doing what you're doing, just now the government gets the credit" < 1376863071 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus a whole load of misinformation < 1376863075 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1376863076 0 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376863083 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk, virgin don't have a pornofilter afaik < 1376863110 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't the industry standard < 1376863121 0 :Bike_!?@? NICK :Bike < 1376863123 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, it's some sort of a thing to make songs with Minecraft note blocks and upload videos of them in YouTube? < 1376863126 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In retrospect, I have no idea why that'd be surprising at all.) < 1376863141 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :blugh, logs down again < 1376863169 0 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no, only talktalk had that kind of opt-in porn filter (afaik) < 1376863182 0 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the plan was to mandatorily extend it to everyone else too < 1376863191 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it? Oh < 1376863228 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: to be fair,it is titled "watch me jerk off" < 1376863242 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(#esoteric is now porn) < 1376863258 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric's been porn for a long time < 1376863427 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: your link re: photoshopped science led me to http://tocrofl.tumblr.com/ < 1376863479 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good, i was considering making a tumblr for silly science things due to "The writer must admit that he has had no introspections from rabbits to justify this conclusion" in a footnote < 1376863534 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ol401012u welp < 1376863616 0 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: gotta love that hot filimant < 1376863659 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376863701 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The human brain, with its three-dimensional evolution history, often finds it difficult to visualize 2N -dimensional spin system trajectories, particularly for large values of N and especially on Fridays." ain't that the truth < 1376863882 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Amor vincit somnia | 22nd IOCCC is open: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | jsvine is doing an esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q/viewform | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1376864247 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1376864645 0 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1376864694 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1376864855 0 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1376865628 0 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376868222 0 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1376869766 0 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/sup-talk/2013-August/004993.html remote command injection via email attachment filename < 1376869801 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, pipermail is email. Are you trying to heck me, kmc. < 1376869910 0 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what percentage of vulnerabilities are due to shell's weird semantics when you consider it as a programming language > 1376923014 760159 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376923017 180802 :glogbot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric > 1376923018 850665 JOIN :#esoteric > 1376923019 367013 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376923021 851297 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooooooooooo < 1376923027 721515 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recursion < 1376923034 108088 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: recursion: not found < 1376923039 915221 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat cat < 1376923041 162712 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: cat: No such file or directory < 1376923043 106352 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat dog < 1376923044 398074 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376923049 150980 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww < 1376923093 429187 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1376923109 751497 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: t'es soit Linteau, Mousehunt, Rouillard ou Vermette. < 1376923119 876444 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regarde mon nom et guesse =P < 1376923129 909626 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Mousehunt? =P < 1376923141 600496 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, pas de ma faute! c'est dans la liste! < 1376923147 874966 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mais Rouillard. < 1376923156 853121 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1376923188 905241 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like Cloj made an alternate account when he was banned from Mousehunt =P < 1376923402 541482 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured that there couldn't be THAT many Boilys with a passion for boardgames =P < 1376923651 411741 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1376923676 166965 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`netsplit < 1376923677 520799 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: netsplit: not found < 1376924259 426495 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Serendipity < 1376924262 453198 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04Serendipity: Wel12come02 to the international hub 02for es09o04teric progr10ammin10g08 l08anguage14 des09ign an05d deployment! Fo02r more information05,14 ch05eck07 o12ut 05o07ur 09wi08ki:06 http://esolangs.org/03wiki/Main_Page. (For the oth03er 03kind of 03esoter13ica, try #esoteric on irc.d12al.net.)11 < 1376924332 667972 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376924889 319413 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376925277 675688 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Roujo: so is this the new hexham < 1376925344 213408 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: I don't know. What *was* hexham - I haven't yet been privy to that information < 1376925377 296774 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, it's this tiny town in england < 1376925392 99733 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :two #esoteric members (Taneb and elliott) turned out to live in the same 10000-people town < 1376925396 968180 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1376925403 887560 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1376925404 628274 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott and Taneb are both from there and arrived here completely independently < 1376925414 132657 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We haven't even met < 1376925414 684324 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, there are like 1 or 2 million people here < 1376925429 630905 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't you forbidden from meeting, though? < 1376925464 582012 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376925465 486731 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1000000 / 7000000000 < 1376925466 621639 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.4285714285714287e-4 < 1376925472 486651 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"so, really, what are the chances!" < 1376925503 104613 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wel... < 1376925504 486376 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well* < 1376925513 852851 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having two Montrealers here is more likely, BUT < 1376925532 808131 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is the brother of one of my friends < 1376925542 703890 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... I don't know if *that* evens out the odds < 1376925546 60037 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Evening the odds" < 1376925555 771775 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an odd thing to say =P < 1376925605 209086 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it is an odd evening < 1376925614 462428 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I've got bad news < 1376925632 718864 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the end of September/beginning of October I'm leaving Hexham < 1376925642 551851 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1376925648 2541 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1376925648 506374 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :this can't be true < 1376925650 401748 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :will you be allowed to meet elliott then < 1376925650 627857 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf no < 1376925651 890242 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't < 1376925674 788021 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am moving to York where I shall be attending university < 1376925701 764272 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when was york on the cards < 1376925726 326394 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since about the same time Birmingham and Loughborough were < 1376925736 603977 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :loughborough is a place?? < 1376925744 56204 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1376925751 258484 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in the midlands < 1376925763 982409 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds too british to be real imo < 1376925768 537299 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good job not choosing it < 1376925774 772309 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you ruined the dream of the midlands as a new centre of esolanging < 1376925785 805967 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I decided that there were already too many esolangers in the West Midlands and not enough in Yorkshire < 1376925810 384552 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1376925856 717890 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, Loughborough is totally pronounced "Loobaroo". If anyone says anything else, they are wrong. < 1376925938 11390 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... < 1376925960 259810 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's luffburgh you moron < 1376926045 263742 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Loobaroo++ < 1376926054 564206 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like C < 1376926057 192399 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only... ++er < 1376926065 668349 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :incrementeder < 1376926149 955121 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Further more increasingly < 1376926325 710159 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, shh don't tell them < 1376926963 56430 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are the people who live there called "Loobies," then? < 1376927437 923275 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376927789 840534 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from a very enterprisey meeting. < 1376927822 531657 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you leverage enough paradigms < 1376927836 539947 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but we're going to monetize synergy. < 1376927862 220826 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(seriously. two clients have very similar aims, so they're going to split the bill between themselves and receive de same product.) < 1376927870 239110 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/de/the/ < 1376927969 651371 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is "synergy"? < 1376928016 687240 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376928056 743176 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean: we're going to monetize the thing called synergy or < 1376928082 220259 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the manner "synergy" < 1376928246 902737 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The company I work for is called iSynergy < 1376928252 491032 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take from that what you will < 1376928274 191192 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's an order) < 1376928286 176404 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1376928525 6289 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm confused < 1376928533 875564 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo == boily? < 1376928543 262826 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not exactly < 1376928558 70270 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Roujo's friend's brother = boily < 1376928672 826181 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: haha nice < 1376928997 81036 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1376929144 312847 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... < 1376929193 340787 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is the brother of Roujo's brother and he's monetizing the company Roujo works at? < 1376929278 997855 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, let's go with that < 1376929330 639037 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376929396 581286 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: how do you feel about hat? < 1376929401 984052 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that < 1376929423 364668 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty ambiguously < 1376929429 123158 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I'm not sure < 1376929983 375820 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376930574 731998 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1376930776 669719 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376930916 92606 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Client Quit < 1376931096 658158 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1376931109 923948 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376931481 305983 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1376931497 633406 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ambiguity is good, and highly regarded in this channel. < 1376931525 490819 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it? < 1376931541 67965 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1376931541 747085 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn boily is the brother of Roujo's brother and he's monetizing the company Roujo works at, or something Canadian like that. < 1376931546 47786 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1376931583 289117 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course you did < 1376931645 670492 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the brother pointer indirection is a little bit off, but for `? that'll do. < 1376931684 749300 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1376931751 745927 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :macro (->) :: [d, ~f |- a -> Done] => [e, f |- b] => [d, e |- a -> b] < 1376931818 761179 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :|-? < 1376931831 303066 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.altmetric.com/details.php?domain=www.cell.com&citation_id=997561 huh, altmetric is a weird thing < 1376931839 365585 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1376931881 928725 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The macro '->' is used with an expression that has type 'a -> Done' in context 'd, ~f' and an expression that has type 'b' in context 'e, f' to form an expression that has type 'a -> b' in context 'd, e'." < 1376931913 972935 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :assert(boily->brother->brother == Roujo) < 1376931921 865566 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waits and see < 1376931925 891003 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1376931929 279145 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAITS AND SEES < 1376931937 726615 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :git commit sepukku < 1376931938 685031 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait's and see's < 1376932007 665241 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Macro" is a bit of a misnomer here, since -> doesn't expand to anything. < 1376932014 688548 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376932027 55974 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it doesn't have to be such a simple kind of macro though? < 1376932043 762297 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it has a macrotype signature. < 1376932050 405378 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, you could define actual macros along these lines. < 1376932153 109620 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :macro myLet :: [~d |- a -> Done] => [e |- a] => [d |- b] => [e |- b] < 1376932158 516982 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :hjdicks < 1376932176 328700 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :myLet \x 5 (x + 3) -- evaluates to 8 < 1376932202 735563 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the definition would just be this: myLet a b c = (a -> c) b < 1376932216 604706 :hjdicks!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1376932228 213939 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does that make sense to me. < 1376932238 47414 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of supposed to. < 1376932260 273750 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the type still doesn't < 1376932282 18061 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376932390 306172 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :me gives Roujo some BEES! < 1376932405 550205 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION didn't send a slash < 1376932448 897609 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: uhm. I think it's assert(boily->brother->friend == Roujo). < 1376932481 374809 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you seriously disputing `? < 1376932490 778020 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1376932497 658937 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you are sick. sick < 1376932530 305497 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat sick > boily < 1376932537 645671 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a serious matter, of capital international importance. < 1376932554 736768 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is a serious matter < 1376932558 658479 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :'`?' has never been wrong before < 1376932565 243829 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1376932566 789922 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wrong < 1376932568 125488 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376932568 475436 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1376932568 641238 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          o/`¯º < 1376932571 275731 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see. < 1376932571 833671 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :see. < 1376932573 619321 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :less matter, more phase transition of matter < 1376932588 736800 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: stop being like me. it's disturbing. < 1376932596 435759 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo no < 1376932600 90694 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? right < 1376932601 665563 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :right? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376932602 287356 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1376932602 482319 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          º¯`\o < 1376932605 368279 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH SNAP < 1376932609 758658 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1376932613 197411 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? left < 1376932614 957253 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :left? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376932615 346693 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1376932615 491340 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         º¯`\o < 1376932619 804322 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1376932621 706171 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :See `? for further details. < 1376932625 506069 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "HackEgo is always right" >wisdom/right < 1376932625 650471 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ` < 1376932629 547896 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` is the prefix to greatness. < 1376932631 313407 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376932636 233133 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run run away < 1376932637 472591 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: run: command not found < 1376932642 567706 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? right < 1376932642 714763 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run freedom run < 1376932643 717379 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: freedom: command not found < 1376932644 88745 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is always right < 1376932653 750313 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hey HackEgo do something that shows that you know what you're talking about < 1376932655 326520 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey HackEgo do something that shows that you know what you're talking about? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376932659 154281 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run touch wisdom/right < 1376932660 216849 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376932680 762188 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? control codes < 1376932682 88440 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :control codes? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376932682 461096 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                    | < 1376932682 668484 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  o/`¯º < 1376932690 104032 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? right < 1376932690 248597 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not bad < 1376932691 777766 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is always right < 1376932702 537477 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat dog wisdom/right < 1376932703 578748 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is always right < 1376932708 769578 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat dog > wisdom/right < 1376932711 858648 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376932733 277101 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run forkbomb.sh < 1376932734 550681 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: forkbomb.sh: command not found < 1376932738 522614 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's nice < 1376932741 496212 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn red 05A synonym of "five". < 1376932745 180621 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1376932750 498722 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? red < 1376932752 288119 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :red 05A synonym of "five". < 1376932756 493622 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm < 1376932766 178923 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/red < 1376932767 416207 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :red 05A synonym of "five". < 1376932768 640212 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a scale of "lol" to "ban", how encouraged is bot abuse? < 1376932771 490574 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes. < 1376932778 48654 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: "lol", I think. < 1376932780 902868 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: red, as in the mahjong tiles? < 1376932787 667017 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/red < 1376932790 682608 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376932792 700925 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod -x run < 1376932794 63151 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: cannot access `run': No such file or directory < 1376932798 102378 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww =P < 1376932803 772483 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod -x bin/run < 1376932805 354630 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: cannot access `bin/run': No such file or directory < 1376932808 724141 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1376932811 419203 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run run < 1376932812 751807 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: run: command not found < 1376932816 896547 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhh < 1376932818 96572 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I guess so. < 1376932818 592723 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhhhhh < 1376932823 69640 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls < 1376932824 679141 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :a.c \ a.out \ bi \ bin \ canary \ delvs \ delvs-master \ dog \ etc \ factor \ god \ hi-bool.bf \ ibin \ interps \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ multiply.bf \ no \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ wisdom < 1376932827 301252 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :run just isn't a command. < 1376932842 914833 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls src < 1376932844 329895 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck.fu \ egobot.tar.xz \ emmental.hs \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ fueue.c \ ul.emm < 1376932846 58319 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dons a pair of sunglasses to shield himself from Roujo's sudden illumination < 1376932861 32129 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls god < 1376932862 345859 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :god < 1376932870 34539 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat god/god < 1376932870 179167 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -R / | paste < 1376932871 59308 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: god/god: Not a directory < 1376932875 307200 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run god < 1376932898 850563 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.30459 \ ls: cannot open directory /proc/1/fd: Permission denied \ ls: cannot open directory /proc/1/fdinfo: Permission denied \ ls: cannot open directory /proc/1/ns: Permission denied \ ls: cannot open directory /proc/1/task/1/fd: Permission denied \ ls: cannot open directory < 1376932900 552071 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: god: command not found < 1376932907 456600 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, we can't edit the source from inside it, right? < 1376932922 671753 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run skynet < 1376932923 955793 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: skynet: command not found < 1376932929 773481 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: the source code of the bot engine thing? Yeah, pretty sure no. < 1376932939 523499 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be nice =P < 1376932958 234678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the software is called UMLBox and it's open source, but you can't edit the copy that powers HackEgo < 1376932972 850521 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine if you could, though. From HackEgo itself. < 1376932975 309911 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Self-award bot < 1376932980 592723 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What could possibly go wrong < 1376932995 712114 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm, nomic bots. < 1376933002 271785 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the spirit < 1376933005 324665 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah. HackEgo has a lot of files. < 1376933022 483150 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Woof > dog < 1376933023 670830 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot can be edited from the inside, but only by its master. < 1376933023 952290 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie:, so i'd be happy to help an fnord archive). we'll know that's our memory...... calling...... that thing's not human... :) apparently i was wrong a while ago < 1376933025 534940 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376933029 150263 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mount < 1376933030 122342 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rootfs on / type rootfs (rw) \ none on /bin type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/bin/) \ none on /usr type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/usr/) \ none on /dev type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/dev/) \ none on /opt type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/opt/) \ none on /lib type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/lib/) \ none on /sbin type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/sb < 1376933036 591693 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done a couple of "live" bugfixes. < 1376933038 426115 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :rootfs? < 1376933042 25662 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even managed to not mess up once. < 1376933071 595008 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Nice stuff =) < 1376933087 360319 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /proc < 1376933088 963667 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 \ 10 \ 11 \ 12 \ 2 \ 275 \ 279 \ 280 \ 281 \ 282 \ 283 \ 284 \ 285 \ 286 \ 3 \ 4 \ 45 \ 47 \ 5 \ 6 \ 64 \ 7 \ 70 \ 71 \ 8 \ 9 \ buddyinfo \ bus \ cgroups \ cmdline \ config.gz \ consoles \ cpuinfo \ crypto \ devices \ diskstats \ driver \ execdomains \ exitcode \ filesystems \ fs \ interrupts \ iomem \ ioports \ irq \ kallsyms \ kcore \ kmsg \ kp < 1376933089 536507 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pwd < 1376933090 690736 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1376933091 453694 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of masters, I bought the first box of Tanto Cuore this weekend. yes, I am ashamed of myself. < 1376933108 436632 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not really be design, it's just that it has a raw-code execution command, and Befunge is so self-modificatory. < 1376933114 539752 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oli would be proud =P < 1376933228 777248 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, ^code uses SUBR? I didn't remember that. < 1376933231 860684 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /proc/285/cmdline < 1376933232 932663 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it was easier. < 1376933233 77135 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat. < 1376933233 744315 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I also scored myself the travel version of Hive with bonus pieces (an excellent strategy game), and a box of The Price is Right (free giveaway that is going to end up at tonight's Douteux auction). < 1376933245 365969 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Nice, nice < 1376933252 790811 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind if I keep running that command over and over until it yields something different? < 1376933253 10851 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not really into board games, though < 1376933253 813652 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /proc/285/cmdline < 1376933255 61727 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat. < 1376933256 502567 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /proc/285/cmdline < 1376933257 614435 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat. < 1376933261 460179 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well this is no fun. < 1376933261 840509 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I have no idea what you're talking about < 1376933271 875387 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /proc/285 < 1376933273 103209 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /proc/285: Is a directory < 1376933277 408116 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /proc/285/* < 1376933278 589692 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /proc/285/*: No such file or directory < 1376933280 494692 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sed /proc/285/cmdline < 1376933281 740386 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 7: unknown command: `2' < 1376933288 721091 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: there's a first time to everything! it's never too late or early to succumb to the glorious temptation of boardgaming :D < 1376933293 105808 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed < /proc/285/cmdline < 1376933294 538588 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: sed [OPTION]... {script-only-if-no-other-script} [input-file]... \ \ -n, --quiet, --silent \ suppress automatic printing of pattern space \ -e script, --expression=script \ add the script to the commands to be executed \ -f script-file, --file=script-file \ add the contents of script- < 1376933307 844200 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed < 1376933309 79005 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: sed [OPTION]... {script-only-if-no-other-script} [input-file]... \ \ -n, --quiet, --silent \ suppress automatic printing of pattern space \ -e script, --expression=script \ add the script to the commands to be executed \ -f script-file, --file=script-file \ add the contents of script- < 1376933309 952616 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just what the heck are you trying to accomplish here ._o < 1376933314 22886 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1376933334 289708 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: me? I'm trying to predict what process our IRC commands run as. < 1376933352 392438 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like maybe it's always process 285 for some reason. < 1376933354 773201 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed /proc/285/cmdline s/sed/des/g > dog < 1376933358 106453 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 7: unknown command: `2' < 1376933359 676122 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $$ < 1376933361 29196 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :284 < 1376933362 156396 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $$ < 1376933363 396963 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :284 < 1376933366 584955 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the bash. < 1376933369 408311 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: There's no randomness in it, so I'm not sure why it would be inconsistent. < 1376933387 581369 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evidently the setup runs exactly 282 tasks. < 1376933387 994401 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I suppose whatever you run under it will be 285.) < 1376933391 765941 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or processes, anyway. < 1376933404 458030 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed 's///' < /proc/285/cmdline < 1376933405 953043 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 0: no previous regular expression < 1376933411 925838 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :What now? < 1376933415 336771 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo echo run > run < 1376933418 584286 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376933421 475520 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run run < 1376933422 751674 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: run: command not found < 1376933427 580185 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x run < 1376933429 620849 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed p < /proc/285/cmdline < 1376933430 553504 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376933431 717998 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat. \ cat. < 1376933433 4024 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run run < 1376933434 15214 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: run: command not found < 1376933438 760524 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMMIT HACKEGO < 1376933441 272767 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1376933442 650358 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :a.c \ a.out \ bi \ bin \ canary \ delvs \ delvs-master \ dog \ etc \ factor \ god \ hi-bool.bf \ ibin \ interps \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ multiply.bf \ no \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ run \ share \ src \ wisdom < 1376933445 602493 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat run < 1376933446 672362 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo run < 1376933446 872947 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: so uh... are *all processes* started up and then killed every time an IRC command is run? < 1376933453 297835 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run run < 1376933454 481380 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: run: command not found < 1376933454 876507 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376933459 623937 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: the home directory isn't in $PATH i don't think < 1376933460 755345 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run hackenv/run < 1376933461 789794 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: hackenv/run: No such file or directory < 1376933462 789116 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awwww < 1376933467 852955 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ./run < 1376933468 182348 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Given how long HackEgo's been around, I find it shocking that you don't know how it works. < 1376933468 934465 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :run < 1376933478 915692 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :each command boots a fresh Linux VM < 1376933482 23668 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I am so sorry. < 1376933482 272313 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1376933485 734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for liberal meanings of 'fresh' and 'VM' < 1376933489 832314 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 'boots' < 1376933494 735865 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: btw did you see my link to my bloge < 1376933498 264372 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 'Linux'? < 1376933502 608175 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bloge? < 1376933502 777307 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the filesystem changes are merged afterward with Mercurial < 1376933507 143541 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck bloge < 1376933507 434224 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376933507 578652 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: probably not that one < 1376933511 422355 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bloeg < 1376933512 72925 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :UML is in-tree < 1376933512 280403 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: huh. < 1376933512 587112 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run export PATH=$PATH:~ < 1376933513 844492 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376933515 634766 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck bloeg < 1376933515 874484 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376933516 166193 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a doge < 1376933517 320566 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run run < 1376933518 412057 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: run: command not found < 1376933521 895092 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :why~~ < 1376933523 912171 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the thing about... uh, animals and engineers and stuff? < 1376933526 449396 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Are you saying it's some sort of non-liberal fascist Linux? < 1376933526 945428 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh < 1376933534 299642 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo `cat /proc/285/cmdline` < 1376933534 847637 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wondering is all, it's not important < 1376933535 580458 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash-cecho `cat /proc/285/cmdline` < 1376933536 287979 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $PATH < 1376933537 705121 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin < 1376933540 56260 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: pure communist open-source linux < 1376933546 169818 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the heck is bash-cecho? < 1376933548 380700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I saw it, seemed reasonable, wasn't sure exactly why you linked it to me... maybe I should read the paper and not just the bit you quoted < 1376933549 771731 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cp run /bin < 1376933550 470651 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Friday subtly shifted into Monday, and had an evil dæmonic offspring that is happening at this very moment... < 1376933551 189201 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cp: cannot create regular file `/bin/run': Read-only file system < 1376933558 244077 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cp run /hackenv/bin < 1376933561 885 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: "bash" "-c" "echo" with no spaces. < 1376933561 655537 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376933564 584494 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: some weeks friday comes early < 1376933565 10033 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run run < 1376933566 73812 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :run < 1376933568 720159 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE WE GO < 1376933571 604507 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: where'd the spaces go? < 1376933581 425702 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: There are no spaces in /proc/pid/cmdline. < 1376933583 685075 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: just because i thought it was a nicer use of biological/computer analogies than "DNA is digital", plus generally because i thought it was cool < 1376933595 69699 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well, why not? }:| < 1376933599 115536 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo `cat -v /proc/285/cmdline` < 1376933600 362468 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash^@-c^@echo `cat -v /proc/285/cmdline`^@ < 1376933609 865328 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they're separated by '\0's. < 1376933615 27629 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh. < 1376933621 740856 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The individual arguments, that is.) < 1376933631 572234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :DNA is digital though < 1376933650 411852 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll never get me to stop pointing that out ;) < 1376933653 422064 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well OK I suppose it is digital < 1376933657 194896 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you're still right. < 1376933677 167279 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some of the advantages of digital information storage are very important to both biological and computer systems < 1376933677 311875 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't mean i'm ever going to stop complaining about people calling it "the programming language of the body" or whatever~ < 1376933681 17679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1376933690 417919 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmhm < 1376933694 973542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you read that part of GEB where hofstadter says a bunch of stuff like that < 1376933698 255816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet it would piss you off a lot < 1376933703 187843 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did but i don't remember it < 1376933706 725115 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you want to be pissed off a lot by a book, go read that hth < 1376933723 351880 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /hackenv/bin < 1376933724 689628 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​! \ ? \ ¿ \ @ \ ؟ \ WELCOME \  \  \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ addwep \ allquotes \ anonlog \ aseen \ bienvenido \ botsnack \ bseen \ calc \ CaT \ cats \ danddreclist \ define \ delquote \ e \ emmental \ emoclew \ emptylist \ erflist \ etymology \ forget \ fortune \ frink \ fueue \ gaseen \ gccrun \ google \ h \ ?h \ h! \ hatesge < 1376933725 171934 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i do like that my mutations haven't killed me yet due to error-correcting-code-esque properties of transcription < 1376933729 335422 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good stuff, imo < 1376933770 124585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1376933773 93337 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno how much angrier i can be at GEB really, i already had my eyes roll out of my head at the zen stuff < 1376933783 77680 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :goooooooooood shit man *puff* *puff* < 1376933786 332780 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1376933796 572514 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Zen is beyond ridicule because it so comprehensively ridicules itself < 1376933807 654043 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why can your eyes roll out of your head at the Zen stuff? < 1376933809 34884 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good trick < 1376933812 948452 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know a pretty hardcore buddhist who doesn't know shit about zen, it's great to see her get questions about it. "I DON'T FUCKING KNOW, JESUS CHRIST YOU HIPPIES" < 1376933823 167451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1376933835 268529 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt rants against hippies < 1376933850 903839 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: general (western person twisting buddhism to fit their preconceptions)-ness < 1376933851 779844 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a big rant against hippies in the big mushroom guide that my girlfriend got < 1376933863 604468 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: sounds like she ought to be more zen about questions about zen < 1376933867 435169 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, it's not as bad as the beatniks or anything < 1376933882 391294 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which concludes with basically "btw if you want to trip that's fine just don't ask me stupid questions about fungi" < 1376933887 144666 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1376933900 699208 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"in that chapter we're going to cover psychoactive drugs, which is usually a fun topic" how appropriate, prof < 1376933931 708132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1376933952 40293 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :our awful intro-bio-for-non-bio-majors class was called "Drugs and the Brain" < 1376933956 573779 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :less interesting than you might think < 1376933961 187653 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolllll :( < 1376933969 861376 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no practicum component < 1376933976 324429 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :endocannabinoid system ftw < 1376933991 573655 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike I need to learn about the subjective difference between THC and CBD intoxication < 1376934027 751304 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cross publish your trip report on silk road and the journal of experimental biology < 1376934039 780648 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376934040 576588 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, erwid, that's what i'ts called < 1376934046 120479 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1376934066 656258 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and JEB doesn't really cover human experience either but whatever < 1376934077 932495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how often david nichols's grad students have random people ask them for experimental hallucinogens < 1376934097 878303 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i also wonder what their parties are like < 1376934102 472418 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just occured to me that you could seriously publish a trip report in a serious anthropology journal < 1376934112 269141 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :best science? maybe < 1376934145 724473 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew a friend of a friend who was a grad student (not for nichols) and said their strategy was basically "synthesize drug, take drug, see what drug does, figure out how to reproduce in rats so it's publishable" < 1376934164 830868 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :intelligent drug design < 1376934255 386331 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there must be a lot of really interesting psychedelic drugs that are as yet undiscovered < 1376934294 220253 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably... i don't think pharmacology is far along enough yet that we can work out how stuff works, honestly :/ < 1376934315 454008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, among all the known phenethylamines and tryptamines, there's a single drug with a strong specific effect on auditory processing < 1376934326 535284 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(diisopropyl tryptamine aka DiPT) < 1376934327 448420 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh i immediately thought of that too < 1376934350 870892 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if i could get into working on physiological optics and then figure out how optical hallucinogens work, heh < 1376934356 9245 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I dunno what this would be like if psychedelics got the same amount of study as boner pills < 1376934370 497845 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha well a friend of mine did some research on that < 1376934401 516031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :made a model of wave propagation in V1 neurons and then compared the result to known hallucination patterns < 1376934405 308184 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1376934412 3234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's polar mapped so you get either concentric circles or radial lines < 1376934415 275 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the book on vision i'm reading does get pretty "have you ever really looked at your hands" at points < 1376934435 766651 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1376934454 441376 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow the professor just said biopsychology and behavioral neuroscience are the same thing. wow dude. wow < 1376934566 291462 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fiberoptic control of motion in Chr2 mouse" good recovery. < 1376934638 412877 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey! one of the labs here is doing research on pain treatment with THC and opiates. < 1376934718 271566 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only time I was on opiates was a very interesting experience. < 1376934772 729749 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blinkdb.org/ anyway, cool computer thing. < 1376935138 716257 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the fastest algorithm to find two equal values in an unsorted (and for that matter, unstortable) sequence of values? < 1376935166 48388 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(assuming nothing can be assumed about the values in the sequence) < 1376935169 46822 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell does "unsortable" mean (i have no idea though) < 1376935181 261458 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means, you can't sort it < 1376935194 237837 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it's not practically doable < 1376935197 946339 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor useful < 1376935250 646776 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you put the whole thing in memory? =P < 1376935381 582585 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsortable, as in your values do not form a poset? < 1376935473 432686 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: depends on how many memory you have. Probably not though. Maybe if you invented an architecture using 2048 bits as address size < 1376935487 273463 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: That can be arranged < 1376935503 309420 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsortable = the algorithm T must be such that, for any turing machine M, for large enough n, on input lists of size n, M takes at least time O(n log n) to compute the sorted version of the input from any internal state encountered during the run of T or does not compute it. < 1376935509 986761 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and if you have enough memory to use up all those addresses) < 1376935512 94702 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're looking for ANY two equal values, right? < 1376935513 338564 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very clear perhaps < 1376935516 23943 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376935525 773507 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: yes < 1376935550 298066 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1376935554 474552 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright, here's what I would do < 1376935558 322282 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1376935569 294161 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway, perhaps you can formalize things like "write an algorithm that does X without doing Y" like this < 1376935587 689116 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1376935589 138707 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevermind < 1376935641 342137 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well, it might be sortable. But I only need to find the value once, so I don't think there is little point. I also need the indexes of the two equal elements, however those change after sorting. < 1376935653 60201 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the two equal values < 1376935693 694755 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is listening to a jazz album that features slightly disturbing samples of farm animals... < 1376935762 945280 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: If it's unsorted then I see it as worst case O(n²) < 1376935777 202773 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the only thing you can do is brute force < 1376935799 806669 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't think of anything that wouldn't be the obvious n² one < 1376935813 505711 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's because there isn't anything < 1376935837 658459 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be so pessimistic. remember grover's algorithm. < 1376935895 946763 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be tempted to only match the first bytes at first to speed things up < 1376935908 276897 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I have no idea if I'd save anything in the end < 1376935919 870480 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: isn't there some crazy algorithm that will solve everything automagically :(? < 1376935929 763778 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: That's only for quantum computers though < 1376935935 321670 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :theefull < 1376935947 650217 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: swapping the current universe for one that has already solved the problem. < 1376935963 610216 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what about... building a quantum computer < 1376935968 834840 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snowflake Algorithm: return false; < 1376935977 139346 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) check if the problem is solved. 2) if not, implode universe < 1376935981 594301 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: i think you usually assume comparison is constant-time in these things. < 1376935997 741173 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376935998 439089 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: swapping the current universe for one that already has a quantum computer < 1376936008 944305 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Oh. Oh well =P < 1376936025 545947 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, it would be a neat trick if you can't hold a whole element in memory < 1376936032 80149 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i guess you might have a point. you could reject some results in, uh, less-constant time, at least. < 1376936049 177703 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's probably irrelevant to the O time of the anothertestgorithm. < 1376936053 972200 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can only do comparisons, then you can probably prove an n log n lower bound for the number of comparisons < 1376936056 335891 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: If I swap the universe, wouldn't that invalidate my pointers? < 1376936056 570033 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :needed < 1376936057 123631 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's still n^2 < 1376936066 310315 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Not if they were safe pointers < 1376936066 927259 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do it in two O(n) passes with a hash table right < 1376936074 124593 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: nah. too mainstream, and not ambitiöus enough. < 1376936075 907763 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if you just want to catch the "no solution" case, a bloom filter < 1376936118 753894 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok I can do another thing < 1376936135 373642 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose that given a value x at position i < 1376936144 309498 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I can compute the value y at position i + 1 < 1376936155 650725 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for that matter z at position i + n < 1376936169 769481 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hash tables are the obvious solution if you're fine with "works in practice with probability 100-epsilon %", but _what if everything maps to the same element_ < 1376936172 394530 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :starting to think you've presented your problem in a weird way here! < 1376936172 706969 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Input formula into recursive equation solver, profit < 1376936188 258876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: universal hashes, hth < 1376936202 84517 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hmmmm what if the problem was weird < 1376936230 270181 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: err, afaik that doesn't really help for deterministic algorithms < 1376936231 415070 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: well i mean, you were talking about lists but now you're talking about "computing", which makes it seem like you contorted your actual problem to fit a list paradigm for us in the first place < 1376936234 610591 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What if you use the value as a hash? < 1376936237 971651 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would use a hashtable if only it could store 10^600 elements < 1376936254 810881 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Get a bigger table < 1376936266 473271 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chop down a bittree < 1376936271 504188 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unrelatedly, if you have induction i wouldn't have even mentioned the z computation) < 1376936280 200579 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes, it's a sequence < 1376936336 622197 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for example, it seems like this goes forever, is there guaranteed to be a repeated value at some point, or could it be monotonic or something < 1376936344 691545 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: You could probably have a hash table that adapts to the input < 1376936348 533035 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that will never happen < 1376936369 468964 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes, I have managed to found bounds for that as well < 1376936373 797631 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lookups would be just as fast but insertions would be worse < 1376936383 530129 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well kindof < 1376936388 711716 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rrresearch.fieldofscience.com/2013/07/apple-academic-press-predatory.html anyway here's a weird thing < 1376936388 856510 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot have a hashing algorithm where it's not possible that everything you encounter maps to the same element, unless you do no compression < 1376936433 178924 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Treat every value as an address in memory. When you encounter a value, if its bit is on, it's a match! If it's not, well, meh. < 1376936445 836960 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turn it on and go on to the next value < 1376936452 599879 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively: < 1376936470 41139 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1376936472 722201 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: is there a distribution the values follow? can you do any sequence acceleration? what are the properties of the sequence in general? or do you just want us to ignore these and consider it an arbitrary sequence, like you said < 1376936499 152050 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376936503 917368 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want the first duplicate or any duplicate? bla bla, bla bla bla, bla < 1376936508 256276 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I don't want you to ignore them, but I can't tell you the properties either because... well because. < 1376936508 829116 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :foreach(Value value : values) { if(File.exists(value)) { /* found match! /* } else { File.create(value) } }; < 1376936513 721541 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: ok < 1376936526 478642 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Not even if you change the algorithm if you get more than n things in one element? < 1376936531 777276 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1376936534 941874 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heck < 1376936535 909100 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even then < 1376936537 512846 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can tell you that the distribution isn't known though < 1376936544 645806 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: but for example, you could have a linear algorithm with constant space if you knew that eventually two duplicate elements would be adjacent < 1376936545 713743 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :foreach(Value value : values) { if(File.exists(value)) { /* found match! /* } else { File.create(value).write(value.getIndex()) } } < 1376936560 628727 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that you have the matching index in the file < 1376936564 538456 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's... O(n)? < 1376936572 20149 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... not sure about linear really. < 1376936572 235516 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or maybe yes, let's think a bit) < 1376936590 604926 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's linear in the length until there are adjacent duplicates :D < 1376936595 401199 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: But that would mean that there is a set of values which will always map to the same element no matter what hashing algorithm you use < 1376936606 756789 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376936607 773031 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Well I can predict the minimum and maximum distance between the two equal values < 1376936609 163428 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hell, if File.create fails if the file already exists, then it's even easier! < 1376936622 168857 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :which certainly helps, but brute force is just not really what I want < 1376936622 543703 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: "the" two? are there only two? < 1376936631 651601 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not brute force :( < 1376936636 69071 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no, "any" two < 1376936637 702957 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by yes i mean you're right, that is not true < 1376936639 609006 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1376936659 885211 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1376936675 529956 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so when you say "i don't want brute force" in response to my solution there i assume you mean that you expect there to be duplicates long before the adjacent (or minimally distant) ones, and would rather get thoe < 1376936679 824421 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :those < 1376936689 5010 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which raises questions about your specific requirements, i think < 1376936690 76698 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you could have two elements though and split based on the mean value < 1376936702 798830 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could of course just put the value in the next slot if the previous one is full, and you would certainly have only one value per hash cell < 1376936747 313514 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would mean that you would have to potentially rebuild your hashcells on each insertion in the worst case < 1376936751 410541 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case i'm pretty sure no matter what you do a hash does not give any speedup in the worst case < 1376936773 786259 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you're right, what i said earlier does not in any way prove this, perhaps i thought it did < 1376936781 473957 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I'm just thinking you can always make lookup better by making insertion worse < 1376936786 209983 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376936819 21009 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like my File System idea (^_^) < 1376936841 277515 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just saying that i'm sure hash tables cannot be made 100% foolproof < 1376936852 832293 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hands out fibonacci heaps to everyone < 1376936859 283338 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Unless your hash function maps a value to itself < 1376936860 834168 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well suppose you want two find two equal values. Say they are located at i and j. I know that lower_bound < |i - j| < upper_bound. I can compute those bounds < 1376936867 257205 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, it's not really a hash function then =P < 1376936874 989326 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: right, unless there is no compression, as i mentioned earlier < 1376936883 381082 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Not even with a meta-function that creates hash functions? < 1376936897 101401 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And horrid insertion complexity < 1376936911 721705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_hashing is like such a metafunction < 1376936941 736120 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :for probabilistic algorithms, universal hashing ofc works < 1376936945 703794 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: well that gives you an O(i*(upper-lower)) time and O(upper-lower) space algorithm at least < 1376936956 833525 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: er assuming you don't mind computing those bounds < 1376936980 829634 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I also know that i + 1 == j + 1 is veru likely to be true < 1376936999 110981 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I can compute those bounds using simple calculations, so no < 1376937006 474157 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure that helps, but ok < 1376937043 93166 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric ::q < 1376937048 818914 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong window, sorry < 1376937061 173181 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :an emoticon or vi? we may neve rknow < 1376937072 293372 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :vim :) < 1376937081 428170 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Watch out, that space looks like it's escaping < 1376937083 153228 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :way to ruin the mystery asshole < 1376937096 692502 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in our offices we have the usual vim vs. heretics religion war. < 1376937099 722975 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: neve's a strong one, she can keep it contained < 1376937122 557574 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Obviously ed wins < 1376937132 779964 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: actually, what makes you think that wasn't a lie < 1376937138 777397 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1376937138 921933 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Despite vim having ex built in < 1376937139 568795 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I just use Notepad++ =P < 1376937142 310537 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ducks < 1376937149 32983 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: of course, even if I had an argument with a sysadmin about the merits of sed against ed. < 1376937158 946954 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: anyway how about this look-ahead-between-lower-and-upper algorithm, does that help you < 1376937170 798175 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: You mean notepad right? Who still uses ++ these days? < 1376937183 586861 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: that reminds me, I think I owe you a smack from last friday, quand que t'as mentionné Pauline, you evil miscreant! < 1376937189 749728 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376937200 354221 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh =P < 1376937206 68702 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well, that was my first idea but I figured that it wasn't very efficient < 1376937213 631089 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: I use ++ all the time. Why would you prefer notepad? < 1376937231 182061 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: intuitively it seems like it uses the least possible number of comparisons, not that i have a proof < 1376937242 902615 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: It's like preferring C++ over C... ask eliott or someone else < 1376937269 160502 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Notepad doesn't support syntax highlighting, or regex, or custom commands... < 1376937276 522748 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: to ++ or not to ++? < 1376937276 856741 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and is one thing which you might want is broken" archives. even less chance. i called " o" in " the other side has. you came through, which is the bit-reversal of the statement is encountered, it is also readily than they use over there < 1376937282 662290 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: "well C doesn't support classes" < 1376937298 168441 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Well C is a beautiful note, thank you very much < 1376937305 584516 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :C3 or bust < 1376937311 504903 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Some people prefer sam < 1376937312 253530 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :c4 mother fucker < 1376937323 553322 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about wordpad < 1376937328 18275 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone still use that < 1376937337 380201 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :did anyone ever use that anyway < 1376937342 128525 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: eh? you sure? < 1376937348 104546 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yeah < 1376937351 756222 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to use it when notepad would crash on long documents < 1376937358 210379 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: I did by error once, but corrected myself soon afterwards. < 1376937366 53928 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :notepad doesn't have undo :( < 1376937368 284483 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: lolwat.rtf < 1376937375 461811 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :sam's manpage is broken for some reason though < 1376937386 478865 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yes, and when people gave me rtfs for some godforsaken reason < 1376937392 985323 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run man cat < 1376937394 611753 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :man: can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/manpath.config < 1376937394 902785 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried acme, too. got utterly confused by the way the mouse is used. < 1376937400 368321 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run man-cat < 1376937401 681229 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: man-cat: command not found < 1376937407 201696 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run, man cat! < 1376937408 248036 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: run,: not found < 1376937426 41336 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wordpad has that horrible thing where you cannot choose anything but full words < 1376937430 341493 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it's like notepad with undo < 1376937430 658356 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: rtfcb < 1376937447 115979 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i help you < 1376937450 99238 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hmm... well I guess that's bad news (and possibly good news at the same time <insert evil laughing>) < 1376937450 338685 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: sam has a command-line mode < 1376937456 450604 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "read the fucking coder's brain" < 1376937488 493774 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Via Twitter, Tuomas Aivelo reports that profs in Finland must retire at 68–but many of them keep doing research, without pay!" ok < 1376937520 684482 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: i have to compliment you here, you've got a good mix of information and hidden information here, near-optimal for evil laughs i would say < 1376937571 969366 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I would like to tell you but I'd probably disappear or something... ok I know I'm paranoia... or maybe not < 1376937581 574371 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're losing it < 1376937587 996307 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's too cheesy < 1376937601 937301 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1376937607 196119 :atrapado!~dd@95.169.243.36 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376937675 214572 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives a Pied-De-Vent to AnotherTest < 1376937700 764416 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(very nice cheese from Îles-de-la-Madeleine. it smells like horse.) < 1376937712 657725 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually limited by other people. They probably wouldn't like me disclosing the entire thing < 1376937714 211494 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, les Îles =) < 1376937807 130403 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never went there. In fact, I think the easternmost point I went to in Québec is Rimouski, and event then it only was up to Ste-Luce. < 1376937813 705801 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/event/even/ < 1376937957 474519 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: perhaps it's easier to answer the following: "what's the most efficient algorithm for cycle detection?" < 1376937963 117252 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could work too, not sure < 1376938036 952024 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my experience with cycle detection is that fuck cycle detection forever, but i know there are good algorithms for it < 1376938045 148541 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bellman-ford? < 1376938101 797124 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: what's the time complexity of that? < 1376938130 271854 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um... wikipedia says O(V*E)? < 1376938205 481916 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whats V and what's E... < 1376938212 646183 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :number of vertices and edges, I think? < 1376938230 994005 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right... I'm assuming you're looking at graph theory < 1376938250 363660 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that where you'd find cycle detection stuff...? or am I missing something < 1376938269 41172 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... I guess there's other places too < 1376938304 851196 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I went there, once. T'was nice. < 1376938475 935710 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1376938653 311618 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376938781 326459 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@modemcable226.119-70-69.static.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1376938826 499871 :AndChat-151956!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1376938849 753709 :AndChat-151956!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com NICK :Roujo|Android < 1376938870 792512 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, you Canadians: do you play the ukulele? < 1376938877 476146 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand it's a thing. < 1376938939 263477 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not < 1376938953 765727 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376938975 344287 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My father does < 1376939063 895616 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@modemcable226.119-70-69.static.videotron.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1376939093 628913 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There was a documentary aired by the local public broadcasting company that was about the instrument; it featured a lot of Canadians.) < 1376939504 68 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on IRC. On a bus. We're living in the future. Woot. =) < 1376939591 419269 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given how far in the future we are, it should be at least a hot air balloon or something. < 1376939599 497815 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: a colleague does. we have a lime green uke with glitters somewhere... < 1376939624 18459 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo|Android: you seem to always be in a bus. < 1376939625 455071 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Apparently it is indeed a thing. < 1376939680 470538 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I take public transit to and from work, so... yeah =P < 1376939701 191518 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :our workplace is a little bit weird. you can deambulate all around the floor with a rubber horse head and say hello to a colleague with a chicken head on your way to coffee. < 1376939725 419026 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was the Linux place? Sounds par for the course. < 1376939739 68120 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo|Android: yesterday was an interesting experience. there was that murder in the night that closed off Beaubien, and then the accident at the end of the day at Rosemont. < 1376939774 180398 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: very linux place. I have a penguin plushie on my desk that I use as a projectile when a coworker says something stupid. < 1376939805 811376 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Ah yes, the good old Rosemont Murder-Accident combo < 1376939839 102663 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a nerf gun on and at all times at work < 1376939842 399892 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had to walk all around a block to get to the bus, me with a set of mahjong tiles in my packsack and a table on my head. it was fungotely heavy. < 1376939842 555796 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i know i didn't know that you've had it for some time i added a new page and sends it to emacs, i suggest, vote). you need to install in /usr/ lib " 1.ss" " srfi" < 1376939845 672091 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You never know < 1376939864 259193 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very sensible choice. < 1376939901 576435 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for that one time where I knew < 1376939909 828288 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But eh < 1376939933 518943 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't force happiness on a person < 1376939940 654356 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something about rape < 1376939983 109088 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :random grep question: is there a way to grep for a pattern that spans multiple lines? I'm searching for python function calls where a keyword argument has a certain value, e.g. "searched_function(..., random_arg_on_another_line='value')"? < 1376940007 424071 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo|Android: you know what they say about that: < 1376940009 487387 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~fortune < 1376940009 719955 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All this big deal about white collar crime -- what's WRONG with white collar < 1376940009 864744 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crime? Who enjoys his job today? You? Me? Anybody? The only satisfying < 1376940009 864826 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :part of any job is coffee break, lunch hour and quitting time. Years ago < 1376940009 864871 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was at least the hope of improvement -- eventual promotion -- more < 1376940009 864914 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :important jobs to come. Once you can be sold the myth that you may make < 1376940010 132450 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :president of the company you'll hardly ever steal stamps. But nobody < 1376940010 277425 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :believes he's going to be president anymore. The more people change jobs < 1376940011 115733 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the more they realize that there is a direct connection between working for < 1376940011 260773 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a living and total stupefying boredom. So why NOT take revenge? You're not < 1376940012 129264 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to find ME knocking a guy because he pads an expense account and his < 1376940012 274216 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :home stationery carries the company emblem. Take away crime from the white < 1376940013 127218 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :collar worker and you will rob him of his last vestige of job interest. < 1376940013 271832 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -- J. Feiffer < 1376940019 882210 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was the longest fortune. < 1376940032 199678 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't even flood. I'm disappointed. < 1376940057 672502 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: As for the grep, I've used the manual "grep -A 1 stuffonfirstline | grep -B 1 stuffonsecondline". < 1376940068 66768 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It can get a bit confused if you happen to have a line that matches both.) < 1376940097 503075 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: how's your fortune? < 1376940097 684988 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: so, let's say i call them mindless games. if we hit every stupid person, any person going, tough one. if we solve it,... < 1376940105 671124 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know they said that, no < 1376940124 301368 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~theme irc < 1376940124 502688 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1376940129 313505 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crap < 1376940133 796872 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dem prefixes < 1376940142 930722 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still with the double-fault. < 1376940150 121041 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's "style".) < 1376940151 695735 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knowwww < 1376940168 514097 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hangs his head in shame < 1376940192 140505 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, double fault as in two simultaneous errors, not an x86 double fault < 1376940210 534220 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I went with "grep -Enrs", and hoped that both parts were on the same line. but your solution seems interestinger. < 1376940219 501567 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Roujo < 1376940221 553461 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo is a Java heretic. He also claims to be Canadian. As per the Hexham treaty, he mustn't meet boily lest the Universe be destroyed. < 1376940229 722219 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to update that... < 1376940249 891831 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the Gate < 1376940256 658229 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the Key < 1376940268 411173 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: The x86 double fault is what I was thinking; though I don't know what the closest IRC analogue would be. < 1376940269 211347 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hexham < 1376940271 191928 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hexham es la ciudad mas importante de programación esotérico < 1376940280 999788 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hexham treaty < 1376940282 662878 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Roujo is still a Java heretic. His claim to Canadianness is soon to be verified by boily, treaties be damned. A cocktail and destruction of the Universe are scheduled at 19h00. < 1376940282 807510 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexham treaty? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376940283 257116 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                    | < 1376940283 491276 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  º¯`\o < 1376940286 501722 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1376940300 467110 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tonight? =P < 1376940319 482573 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, I'm not in Montreal. I'm not even in Ottawa today < 1376940326 159627 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking about making my OS use double fault as a catch-all interrupt/fault handler, using the error code of the double fault to figure out which interrupt it was trying to deliver < 1376940326 766040 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo|Android: I'll be at the Broue Pub tonight for the Douteux. http://brouepubbrouhaha.com/index.cfm < 1376940341 923207 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, with Teneb moving, Hexham will lose its special status =P < 1376940349 119057 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mtl4ever < 1376940351 726716 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not sure whether that actually works though) < 1376940364 997074 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Awww < 1376940367 738524 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys should all come to waterloo, it's a pretty happening place < 1376940462 360264 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like a pretty standard Ontarian place. < 1376940499 366451 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's THE pretty standard Ontarian place, tyvm < 1376940526 127072 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that Ottawa was more Ontarianer :p < 1376940529 594746 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION canard < 1376940541 19879 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what? no. Ottawa is bilingual < 1376940563 298831 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and? what's the problem? < 1376940575 201544 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(vive le françâ!) < 1376940605 920638 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1376940649 746777 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the place is bilingual does that mean everyone speaks one/either language, or everyone speaks both? < 1376940673 244746 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you have a mix of pretty much every possible case. < 1376940709 450 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you usually have more chances with English, but then it all depends where you are. sometimes Cantonese is a better choice. < 1376940772 417989 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. on hong kong? < 1376940828 365462 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oh, I'm in favour of bilingualism < 1376940834 443238 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it makes Ottawa pretty not-Ontarian < 1376940840 129428 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :all things considered < 1376940853 987176 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1376940855 932046 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ran into the premier on Metcalfe yesterday < 1376940869 695575 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which premier? provincial or federal? < 1376940879 11367 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no such thing as a federal premier < 1376940906 514928 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? they are not the same in English? < 1376940909 653661 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1376940913 630700 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. < 1376940918 159162 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :prime minister for federal, premier for provincial < 1376940936 113633 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :premier ministre, premier ministre. < 1376940940 671666 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :although some provinces used to use prime minister like Ontario, that was eventually changed to eliminate confusion < 1376940944 913430 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know :) < 1376940953 78382 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :je parle francais... un peu < 1376940960 790381 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c'est déjà pas pire! < 1376940970 205552 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried with Taneb once, but it didn't end well... < 1376940990 513808 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tried what? speaking French? < 1376941015 479015 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... uhm... forcefully inserted metaphorical electrodes in his brain. < 1376941023 175147 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1376941026 373244 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It hurt < 1376941030 895577 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, breaching the skull hurt < 1376941031 275052 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it didn't. < 1376941058 279240 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376941084 25734 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Je pense que ça fait mal. < 1376941098 718109 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't Taneb moving just mean Hexham gets larger? I thought that's how it works. < 1376941118 946662 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I'm negative people < 1376941131 360117 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean, geographically larger. < 1376941141 463033 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The population count just monotonically increases anyway. < 1376941249 311674 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what < 1376941323 627922 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do? < 1376941435 50104 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what. < 1376941572 764777 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376941592 246752 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: do you know? < 1376941607 751624 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ça a l'air marrant, le douteux =P < 1376941677 742125 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good they are fixing the thing where extern "C" fn foo() { ... } has type *u8 < 1376941709 37553 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: ouaisp :D bonne bière, bonne bouffe, choses étranges et bizarres, et un film poche à 22h00. < 1376941729 254767 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trop tard pour moi, mind you, mais bon =P < 1376941844 905845 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pareillement for the bad movie, but sinon ça commence aux alentours de 7:30pm, with the main presentation à 20h00. < 1376941887 836512 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we once spontaneously started playing mahjong at a random table, and made a guy from Vancouver twitch. < 1376941924 619764 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was hearing us shuffling tiles behind his back, and for a moment he was trying to remember where he had heard that sound before :D < 1376941981 415536 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice =P < 1376941985 638516 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :help mixing français et anglais est confusing < 1376941996 566583 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :est-ce que c'est always comme ça, living in canada < 1376942031 734632 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sempre? < 1376942055 643053 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: it depends de où c'est que t'es. last weekend was hard on my brains, where j'avais à expliquer les règles du shōgi en français and in English to players in quelques groups at the same time. < 1376942071 637093 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the answer is YES < 1376942088 68810 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: according to Koen_, the answer is YES. < 1376942104 156054 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay that just sounded weird, since the name of the school is 42 < 1376942105 871711 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1376942126 386457 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 = answer of life and everything < 1376942128 38124 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-193.wireless.telus.com QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1376942129 853151 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, all of my friends whom phoen number I still have also got YES < 1376942133 469332 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you asked “do you know”, I asked the same to Koen_, I forwarded you the answer. < 1376942144 854951 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait you weren't interested < 1376942149 903366 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was an honest question < 1376942151 11961 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1376942162 534522 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question was honest. not me. sorry. hth. < 1376942179 59215 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also asked if I could work for them < 1376942186 782542 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as an assistant, helping students etc < 1376942197 408075 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were very interested < 1376942213 217414 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is fucking France so you know, there's a rule against it < 1376942265 114198 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't be paid because the pay would be too much, I can't be a volunteer because it wouldn't be enough < 1376942275 282322 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1376942282 177221 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: is the feud between walloons and flemishs still strong in Belgium? < 1376942314 976645 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I can't have an internship because I'm not a student yet < 1376942345 366195 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: the joy of CPE? < 1376942351 850435 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :not *that* strong. these days we just joke about each other, or make sweeping statements about "die walen!" or "ces flamands!" < 1376942355 65842 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even < 1376942361 886139 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wanna work < 1376942364 890068 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :КГҰРЋЮЛЇЋѮ < 1376942369 325220 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's interesting and I've got free time < 1376942375 317978 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even care whether I'm paid or not < 1376942379 846447 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: well, that's a marked improvement. < 1376942401 182181 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: do as my breton coworkers and sail? < 1376942418 260184 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sail? < 1376942421 134850 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: krypto...wut? < 1376942425 939416 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: on a boat. < 1376942437 69840 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is paris < 1376942441 795173 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only boats are on the seine < 1376942446 647371 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they don't move that much < 1376942450 78684 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: "die walen!" is not a death threat) < 1376942457 862156 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :die, bart. die! < 1376942474 68750 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: mouais. < 1376942486 585335 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: my ssiter used to have a poster of "die another day". I used to always pronunce the die as if it was the german word < 1376942588 301270 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you live in paris Koen_ < 1376942614 151655 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes no mayne < 1376942618 878813 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I do at the moment < 1376942624 568892 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I will during the school year < 1376942646 160218 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'll probably go *home* for what's left of the summer < 1376942671 943579 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376942829 770659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Die Gnu Autotools < 1376943206 791628 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376943244 633883 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ja? < 1376943300 81605 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: I don't have you yet in my The Question Document. care to provide you approximate coördinates and body weigh, please? < 1376943318 145865 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/you a/your a/ < 1376943340 180848 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :36/32/40 < 1376943353 873649 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, wrong measurements < 1376943371 598076 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :180 lbs < 1376943374 43889 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a first. < 1376943409 856144 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you always use the verb in the place where the noun should go < 1376943415 826556 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :47 north 122 west < 1376943427 617444 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: because it has been codified so. < 1376943432 345256 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: thanks! < 1376943448 641909 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but but it's wrong! < 1376943452 988893 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we change code? < 1376943473 453056 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only if the Esoteric Board of Traditions accepts. < 1376943500 895136 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: hey. you're near Bike! < 1376943518 235204 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it policy to use only 100% beeswax candles in our rituals? < 1376943535 430679 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376943541 653441 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? beeswax < 1376943543 126223 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :beeswax? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376943543 553653 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              | < 1376943543 737563 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            o/`¯º < 1376943545 373048 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1376943602 842166 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: if so, it won't be any of yours < 1376943632 461127 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BBC top story: arbitrary detention of journalists' family members by conspiracy of the US and UK < 1376943635 986255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CNN top story: bear attacks < 1376943687 95655 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fox top story: why isn't the UK just detaining the journalists < 1376943707 513624 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lool < 1376943717 776982 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tabloid top news story: bear attacks journalists' family members by conspiracy of the US and UK < 1376943729 156851 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :effectively detention of a journalist, isn't it? in that it seems likely he was acting as a proxy for Greenwald (who had also talked about giving the documents and stuff to him or something before?) no better, of course < 1376943729 700791 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah seriously that greenwald thing is fucked up. < 1376943733 598128 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: uhm... you sure about 47N 122W? I hope it's only a rounding error because it's even more nowhere than hexham. < 1376943734 858219 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: my information on this is like a day old) < 1376943799 345801 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck tacoma < 1376943799 684401 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A city of west-central Washington on an arm of Puget Sound south of Seattle. < 1376943807 866089 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tacoma isn't that nowhere < 1376943818 470810 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the detention was probably very helpful in the war on terror, so all is good < 1376943855 753846 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e NICK :myndzi < 1376943859 684782 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :carbonado is at 47N 122W < 1376943873 89697 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no I'm not in carbonado, I just rounded < 1376943939 706204 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of waiting for a government explanation, which i'm sure will be angering < 1376943960 868516 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: rounding to the nearest whole degree is a good way to end up in a completely different place < 1376943982 593917 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but we aren't geocashing here < 1376944001 611074 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: at least give the minutes < 1376944020 437928 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :never!! < 1376944242 823176 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :11'7.3176" N 17'34.5114" W < 1376944254 88811 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no doesthiswork! noooooo < 1376944260 229375 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvjcPoiafP0 let's talk about wheels < 1376944306 261623 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: thanks again! < 1376944317 725176 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: why no? < 1376944319 164454 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 NICK :julius < 1376944330 655570 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooo < 1376944332 435268 :julius!~augur@208.58.5.87 NICK :augur < 1376944334 504695 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1376944335 682059 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: resistance is futile. you will be approximated with a small error. < 1376944338 3050 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o. < 1376944391 477419 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with rtk you can get accuracy down to the sub inch level by measuring the phase of the signal < 1376944512 124480 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( took a class on how to use robots to farm) < 1376944592 532880 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :man i want a john deerebot < 1376944671 140418 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes john deere does sell farming robots < 1376944685 293148 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nearly convinced my dad to buy a robomower once < 1376944701 134498 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't play completely nice with other manufacturers though < 1376945604 394707 :PupUserb46ae5!~PupUserb4@2.26.106.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376945617 555873 :PupUserb46ae5!~PupUserb4@2.26.106.58 PART :#esoteric < 1376945748 1318 :atrapado!~dd@95.169.243.36 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376945926 893115 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376946148 180344 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1376946474 795179 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376946594 3099 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376946818 92877 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid many to one field. < 1376946828 793045 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :* -> 1 < 1376947139 660166 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :having a standard many2one in OpenERP is easy. but try to customise it, and all fungots break loose. < 1376947139 829159 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and it's self-modifying techniques." stop immobilizes and disables you. in these bones, i shall return! by the way, the wings! now this is a way to the ocean palace? < 1376947594 723287 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :dat dangling quote < 1376947622 630361 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dangles fungot by its quotes < 1376947622 775320 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily:. i'm so kind, even to assholes! anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov < 1376947630 315405 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1376947641 892156 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote no not markov < 1376947643 392626 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :567) <fungot> Ngevd:. i'm so kind, even to assholes! anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov < 1376947654 893378 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :first: I'm not an asshole. second: seems it happened before. < 1376947669 651361 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck anmaster < 1376947669 939044 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376947692 551389 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: = Vorpal < 1376947693 688475 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 555 < 1376947694 998990 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :555) <fizzie> I prefer the N64 controller, it's the only one that has place for my third hand. < 1376947700 773419 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote quote < 1376947702 13384 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :28) <oklopol> i can get an erection out of a plank, you can quote me on that. \ 68) Note that quote number 124 is not actually true. \ 74) <ais523> let's put that in the HackEgo quotes files, just to completely mystify anyone who looks back along them in the future \ 127) <cpressey> Never ever use a quote which contains both the words "aloofness" a < 1376947707 778948 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Vorpal is an anmaster? < 1376947713 582504 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 124 < 1376947715 119306 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :124) <AnMaster> cpressey, oh go to zzo's website. He is NIH <Phantom_Hoover> AnMaster, really? I was strongly under the impression that zzo was invented here. < 1376947738 612396 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooooh. Vorpal has a secret identity! < 1376947744 738455 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very secret. < 1376947754 19314 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? secret < 1376947755 552978 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376947756 65054 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :secret? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1376947756 424400 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1376947756 651166 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           º¯`\o < 1376947756 851540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps quotes should use some sort of numeric identifier that wouldn't keep changing with nicks. < 1376947759 587531 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not so much secret as previous < 1376947780 119823 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same thing. succret and previous are only two sides of the same coin. < 1376947807 166022 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to go. my brains are mush from too much XML, and I'm starting to make bad puns. < 1376947819 561223 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: *POOF*! < 1376947822 722983 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376947866 956927 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376947899 671911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pub trait VectorVector < 1376948063 181408 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a LaVectorDouble in LAPACK++, but sadly it's not... whatever a VectorVector is (probably), it's just a double-precision vector. < 1376948158 881700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1376948210 445665 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a trait for vectors of vectors, so the implementations are for &'self [~[T]] and &'self [&'self [T]] < 1376948222 980000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful language imo < 1376948233 253098 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any esolang with region pointers? < 1376948314 233002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think as long as there is not I will feel justified talking about Rust in here < 1376948442 701455 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376948454 477831 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you started having obfuscated rust code contests yet? < 1376948461 566017 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good question < 1376948482 77403 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :error: mismatched types: expected `std::iterator::Map<'t,display_list::DisplayItem<E>,(display_list::DisplayItemKey,&'t display_list::DisplayItem<E>),std::vec::VecIterator<'t,display_list::DisplayItem<E>>>` but found `std::iterator::Map<,&display_list::DisplayItem<E>,(display_list::DisplayItemKey,&display_list::DisplayItem<E>),std::vec::VecIterator<,display_list::DisplayItem<E>>>` < 1376948488 95381 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ FLASHBACK < 1376948488 311665 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376948496 64367 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that... rust? < 1376948504 197954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's an error message from rustc < 1376948506 429793 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are rust types < 1376948728 7835 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need some sort of a rustfilt, clearly. < 1376948794 723787 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376948874 169251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well actually the name mangling in binaries is C++ compatible < 1376948896 126821 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I was thinking of that other thing. < 1376948911 952340 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then there's another layer of mangling too < 1376948918 156078 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376948918 472099 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :STLFilt. < 1376948925 94073 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1376948927 684629 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be nice < 1376948932 421447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :these iterators are super new and pretty ugly < 1376948952 727816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you build and return an iterator by calling some chain of map filter etc, that whole chain is evident in the type of what you return < 1376948962 257999 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a little hard to avoid this in a language which handles allocation the way C++ or Rust does < 1376948965 267735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still, eww < 1376948981 265794 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :another engineering class, another sausagefest < 1376949030 2416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1376949079 536294 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376949090 613883 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh, your classes have already started? < 1376949113 879403 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the year starts fairly early here i guess. < 1376949124 105908 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm fine with it. schoollessness is dull < 1376949124 959455 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever read debra tannen's book on the differing values we set up for women and men? (at least in america) < 1376949133 742027 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have not < 1376949158 591994 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which classes do you have this semester? < 1376949180 309751 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel in this case the anecdotal data of "there's only one woman versus twenty-something males in my circuits class" is stark enough for a first analysis < 1376949201 526392 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: intro inorganic chem, intro psych, intro organismal biology, design of logic circuits < 1376949204 609779 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, one thing men are trained is that if you want respect you have to be better than someone else < 1376949225 327602 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess "anecdotal data" is a pretty silly phrase < 1376949235 272304 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are these like, all neuroscience prereqs? < 1376949235 416902 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think our first exam period (where you can mostly retake things from before summer) starts next week. < 1376949242 946086 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yeah < 1376949265 828379 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :our year didn't start until late september, because we did three 11-week terms per year, and that makes the holidays line up better < 1376949267 763838 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, except circuits, which is just "let's put some more electricy stuff in there" < 1376949291 785784 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i'm complaining, i've been looking forward to this one < 1376949301 904614 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this like, where you get to design adders and stuff? < 1376949309 180328 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one thing women are trained is that if you want to be liked you should be equal and share contributions < 1376949312 272051 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure actually! < 1376949319 431840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man, adder architectur < 1376949320 573262 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: oh i've seen these books before, about communication < 1376949332 942299 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already "know" how to make adders thanks to that one book with mammoths < 1376949338 118224 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had no idea until I shadowed 6.004 that making a fast adder is actually kind of tricky! < 1376949339 217878 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually making one in lab would be cool though < 1376949347 357166 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah i still have no idea how the fancier ones work < 1376949357 470593 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I helped make a 12-bit adder! in Electric! okay so probably I didn't contribute much but still < 1376949361 587004 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you just chain a bunch of adders sequentially then the last one waits for the carry from the second to last, which waits etc. < 1376949365 189460 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1376949376 931848 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think knuth mentions it but i didn't understand his explanation of the other kinds < 1376949391 898954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well a carry-select adder is kind of simple, basically let's duplicate the upper half of the adder, do it once assuming 0 carry and also in parallel assuming 1 carry < 1376949397 602152 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you just mux the outputs by the carry bit at the end < 1376949409 740437 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. yeah. hey that makes sense. < 1376949429 649062 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can do that recursively (dividing to equal halves each time isn't optimal, since there's more delay on higher bits, but I don't remember exactly what kind of lopsided tree is best) < 1376949438 300903 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully this class will get me a better grasp of terms like "mux", i mean I already know what a multiplexer does but still < 1376949458 468708 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mux is just, like, something that ors together a lot of bits, isn't it? < 1376949471 95471 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh inputs (A,B,S), output A if S=0, B if S=1 < 1376949482 921936 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the simplest mux < 1376949483 875319 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhh. so it's like a selector < 1376949497 469548 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like and if-then-else < 1376949501 425519 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like you have 8 inputs from cache banks, and a selector to say which of the cache banks to use < 1376949506 449567 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a functional if-then-else* < 1376949507 140922 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's a big mux? < 1376949508 357097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep it's a hardware if / C ?: operator < 1376949510 411264 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: yes, and an interesting consequence of that is when you make something really competitive, our men are going to be a lot more comfortable than our women will be. < 1376949524 342070 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made that ripple-carry addler in OpenTTD, does that count as doing electronics? < 1376949533 260317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can straightforwardly expand A,B to be n-way buses, and you can also expand S to be n bits and have 2^N inputs instead of just 2 < 1376949548 650367 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPUs have lots of muxes because they have to route data around differently, depending on the instruction < 1376949568 949933 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the C language doesn't have a function switch? < 1376949604 504087 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376949612 716316 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376949620 782899 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Received a 10 MB XLSX. Seems to contain one sheet with about 50 x 30 #baffling" bioinformatics is a scary science < 1376949661 990141 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, up to four women now. < 1376949721 662952 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: this sounds kind of oversimplified but i guess it's something < 1376949738 952793 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376949754 928874 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376949760 79508 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it is an oversimplification because irc doesn't have room for essays < 1376949763 151998 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This adder design can be complemented with a carry-lookahead adder structure to generate the MUX inputs, thus gaining even greater performance as a parallel prefix adder while potentially reducing area" see, like this, i don't even know what "area" means really, like how do you calculate it < 1376949766 368569 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a crying shame that you can't do something like ({ switch (x) { ... } }) kind of thing with GCC statement expressions, because the last statement in the block needs to be an expression statement in order for the construct to have a (non-void) value. < 1376949768 787676 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: granted < 1376949812 417407 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think it's just, like, the space your circuit takes up when you actually go draw out the transistors and wires? < 1376949827 624888 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but i've never seen a non-abstract wiring diagram < 1376949855 883392 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how you work out things like "well these two wires have to be x distance apart to avoid crosstalk" < 1376949866 66669 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're design rules, I think < 1376949882 432436 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, in the program I used there were restrictions like that, and rules about how you had to place wires and how large N/P doped areas had to be? < 1376949892 657328 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there was a checker that would tell you if you were breaking the rules and where < 1376949901 745212 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's why i'm in class, and you already have your bs :p < 1376949926 813337 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll probably know wayyy more than me when I'm done, I have like near-zero actual experience <.< < 1376949964 996654 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of funny asking questions in class. i think my psych prof thinks i'm a confused pre-med because i kept asking about the difference between clinical and research psychology < 1376949997 164726 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1376950048 802549 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically wiring the thing kinda felt like playing a video game, like a puzzle game where you had to do something according to certain restrictions < 1376950054 58942 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :on that note, he mentioned that they get most of their guinea pigs for research from a requirement for 101 students to participate in research, so that's great < 1376950058 290302 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yeah and it's np-complete isn't it < 1376950103 452927 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :TAs TBD, grader TBD, lab time TBD. what the hecks < 1376950173 253327 :Pouti!adce5656@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.206.86.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376950196 360031 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like um, for example I have no idea how clocks work at all like I know there's a clock signal and it goes throughout the chip but how does it even I don't understand < 1376950201 826456 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like how does it make things do stuff < 1376950211 390289 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you will probably learn this <.< < 1376950213 553832 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that will be interesting to learn < 1376950222 386106 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :clockless circuits seem pretty interesting to me < 1376950228 95497 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(neuro!!!) < 1376950261 937201 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do like, do clocks only plug into SRAM cells representing the data at the start/end of each clock cycle? < 1376950275 796479 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like SRAM -> one clock worth of computation -> SRAM -> one clock worth of computation [...] < 1376950281 348104 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: programmer culture is fairly hierarchal because some people are a lot better at it than others (observe the oneupsmanship to establish a hierarchy that goes on when two programmers meet and have to work on a project together). But I wonder if there is a social structure that gets just as many cool things made, but doesn't need as much confrontation. < 1376950284 853173 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has idea and is totally guessing < 1376950296 487185 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :professor doesn't know what the class is called. lol. < 1376950301 30912 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*has no idea < 1376950337 627180 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: i think the meritocratic nature of the field is often overplayed < 1376950385 818807 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :overplayed by people participating or people talking about it? < 1376950393 707005 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :both i guess < 1376950410 317031 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clock_tree#Distribution "Most synchronous digital systems consist of cascaded banks of sequential registers with combinational logic between each set of registers. The functional requirements of the digital system are satisfied by the logic stages." < 1376950419 152244 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... I think I was right? o_o < 1376950431 805022 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :u skilled grrrrl < 1376950454 157734 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome pouti < 1376950456 444661 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08pouti14: W09elcome to the internati12o05nal hu09b for09 es06oteric pr09og02rammin09g lan08guage des03ign05 and deploymen14t11! For more 12inf12ormat02ion, check out our 08wiki: h14ttp06:/07/esolangs.org/wiki/M05ain_06Pa13ge. (For the10 other kind of esoterica, t13ry 09#esote04ric on 13irc.dal.net.) < 1376950459 63334 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just guessing based on my tiny bit of knowledge about verilog ;_; < 1376950502 480307 :Pouti!adce5656@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.206.86.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo and HackEgo : Hello! < 1376950515 279935 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1376950625 941829 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1376950692 785141 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a smily face, or are you pointing up? < 1376950703 964044 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's both < 1376950762 873663 :Pouti!adce5656@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.206.86.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo : So, working on some interesting project? < 1376950811 76651 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I have an IRC bot that I should be fixing < 1376950819 134966 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's in Java, so I'd rather not talk about it here < 1376950829 348835 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lest I draw the ires of elliott < 1376950844 905014 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about you? =P < 1376950852 84426 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered switching to scala/ < 1376950954 925057 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1376951158 685648 :Pouti!adce5656@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.206.86.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many projects, none related to programmation at this moment < 1376951203 336337 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :prof is comparing FPGAs to freshmen. good prof < 1376951264 24866 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I stayed up all night once doing PCB layout as a puzzle game < 1376951277 933372 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to connect all the points and you can use red wires and blue wires and you can't cross two wires of the same color < 1376951282 175035 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice and abstract :) < 1376951290 119382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think VLSI layout is a lot harder but I don't know < 1376951333 194372 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that sounds super similar, we had two metals (wires) and so on < 1376951343 165543 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«we have [a NES chip someone designed in class] somewhere internally, apparently it's "illegal"» < 1376951367 564609 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember the professor explaining that like, each metal was a layer in the chip, so more metals would be more costly to fabricate < 1376951371 200652 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: haha < 1376951512 708593 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just described an executable as something that "constrains a processor to run a certain program", oh man < 1376951585 137270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 6.004 labs include optimizing your logic for speed < 1376951587 586897 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is pretty fun < 1376951599 365163 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots and lots of little tweaks to eliminate gates from the critical path < 1376951613 988580 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course IRL you have to optimize for speed, area, power consumption, yield, etc. all at once < 1376951633 253907 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh, that sounds really fun I wish I had taken something like that < 1376951658 698597 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for this class we have to buy an FPGA board instead of a textbook, so, lookin' p. cool < 1376951668 666904 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you can! i "took" this class in that I downloaded the labs and did them < 1376951680 523795 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION plays the twilight zone theme < 1376951682 168043 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be on OpenCourseWare but it's often better to just find the course website < 1376951718 867688 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that sounds really cool! um, do you know where I can find it <.< < 1376951725 506950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://6004.mit.edu/ see "Handouts" and "Courseware" < 1376951736 932196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have this logic simulator JSim which is... not great, but bearable < 1376951741 79355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend using an external editor < 1376951752 542712 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it like simulates at the gate level, and will draw the logic timing diagrams < 1376951754 644315 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i've used jsim, it's ok < 1376951760 452219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it can simulate analog stuff SPICE style < 1376951774 450217 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first lab is all about like "let's see how transistors are in fact analog devices and then, oh god, pretend they aren't" < 1376951785 50008 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good sell, kmc. good sell < 1376951815 252630 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, no, i used mars and logisim < 1376951840 693268 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :logisim was pretty boring but worked well enough < 1376951971 470582 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did i even mention mars. < 1376952460 23898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw if anybody can explain to me how bipolar junction transistors work, and how field effect transistors work < 1376952463 37761 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :using small words < 1376952463 834072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be cool < 1376952744 125008 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's magic < 1376952754 847502 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they stuff them full of crushed fairy wings < 1376953117 576153 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/FET_comparison.png um, I'm not sure if I'm right but < 1376953158 399836 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea seems to be that voltages applied to the sides move around the electrons in the transistor so that the top-bottom route becomes passable to electrons, or not < 1376953219 122668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1376953230 892678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are so many kinds and modes >_> < 1376953299 36362 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well like one kind moves around electrons, another moves around holes, and so on, I think? < 1376953326 629132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's easy enough I suppose < 1376953499 249300 :Pouti!adce5656@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.206.86.86 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1376953520 523983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly envisions integrated circuits of black holes < 1376953574 754678 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376953644 773140 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly smashed his vision with a hammer < 1376953676 989820 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i will recommend that. < 1376953754 355289 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so I guess, like, "field effect" refers to how the electromagnetic fields drag the electrons in this material out of the way, changing the conductivity? < 1376953778 48287 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's it, at least... < 1376954203 912258 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376955174 249790 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376955472 991235 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376955591 696724 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1376958287 928852 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje < 1376959132 114792 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376959915 213045 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1376960038 332407 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376960222 888809 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376960305 584176 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1376960367 777640 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sketchy diagram http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/130819.html < 1376960748 68585 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell <boily> probably nearer to boily>boyle. my ancestors were Irish on the Boily side, but French on the Tremblay side. <-- what, and here i've been carefully pronouncing it with a french oi... < 1376960748 252620 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1376960808 581012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask boily also, how does one say "poulet" with an irish accent twh < 1376960808 764211 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1376961442 911102 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376961603 775913 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/conn-police-cable-outage-worthy-911-call-20002202 < 1376962334 574498 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEANWHILE, IN THE HUMANITIES http://lareviewofbooks.org/review/an-impossible-number-of-books/ < 1376962350 685021 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading the logs by pasting into google translate is annoying. i suggest we ban french hth < 1376962794 132346 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.scfbm.org/ also < 1376962832 772615 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you mean like "bwally" < 1376962840 393627 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so that's great & i'm going to start saying it in my head < 1376962848 60738 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: yep < 1376963383 101105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<Roujo> git commit sepukku <-- do spelling nazis commit seppuku after misspelling it? < 1376963527 536292 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think glogbot should have a feature to reintegrate clog logs if glogbot goes down then comes back uo < 1376963528 916044 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :up < 1376964149 706825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :glogbackup is supposed to be for backup logging, but afaik Gregor never has merged its logs back in < 1376964241 946646 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376964549 729633 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376964577 894929 :sacje!~sacre@50-81-222-220.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1376964582 228144 :sacje!~sacre@50-81-222-220.client.mchsi.com QUIT :Changing host < 1376964582 372803 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376964812 258424 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if I can still download Netscape < 1376964825 275702 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1376964859 117018 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376964862 52817 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: It's certainly on oldwhatever.com < 1376964943 850241 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a version 9 apparently < 1376964979 71392 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not really classic Netscape, I guess < 1376965044 456718 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It... err... < 1376965047 135735 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks Firefoxy < 1376965075 345441 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(C) 1998-2008 < 1376965082 186262 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost certain it's a reskinned Firefox < 1376965127 691431 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't < 1376965208 549466 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, reading Wikipedia makes that clear < 1376965220 635061 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it looks like it just took the UI of Firefox and rebranded it < 1376965413 526020 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which version do I want for classic feeling Navigator? < 1376965458 28541 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo have you considered becoming a historian or something instead of whatever you do now < 1376965791 608342 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Why not mosaic? < 1376965813 824241 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never used Mosaic myself < 1376965823 363770 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can Mosaic even be made to work on XP? < 1376965830 743599 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if ViolaWWW could work < 1376965921 252508 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :activation.netscape.com could not be found < 1376965923 716506 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Screw DRM < 1376965941 955245 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woah the GUI reminds me of REBOL < 1376965947 98661 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just... graphics-wise < 1376965960 663678 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could work with archive team or something < 1376966598 581330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<kmc> the filesystem changes are merged afterward with Mercurial <-- does it still do that after it was made transactional? < 1376966612 550567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(HackEgo) < 1376966636 135686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ^ < 1376966694 622250 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :python sould classify as a joke esoteric language < 1376966723 304439 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1376966734 699926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo really has a hard time with HackEgo, i see < 1376966786 510989 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's only sort of transactional now I think? < 1376966789 495219 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, ask Gregor < 1376966790 920446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :python isn't the most common language suggested in that vein, i should think < 1376966798 503702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: um i sort of thought you made that part < 1376966806 157520 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he ripped out half of it :P < 1376966812 47248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1376966815 640025 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask Gregor. < 1376966852 904216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, i'm just going to assume he broke it horribly somehow hth < 1376967057 685943 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1376967708 556041 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376968103 789446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh whatever too much logs < 1376968941 821728 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1376970873 766408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1376971108 467559 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are some existing alternatives to text-based version control? Does Monticello count, or is it still text-based at the method level < 1376971168 873171 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw a wonderful video once, I don't know what happened to it < 1376971187 317432 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw it when I was REBOL-obsessed, so must have seen it recently, but I think the video itself is very old < 1376971494 409866 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :re ball < 1376971565 826885 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :A lot of little lies for the sake of one big truth | 22nd IOCCC is open: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | jsvine is doing an esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q/viewform | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1376971586 432607 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376971862 444658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is disappointed that that's just an album title < 1376971894 107684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"just" < 1376971903 847852 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :annyway sorry 2 disappoint < 1376971939 120710 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it _should_ have been an epic putdown quote against something. < 1376972023 440282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although perhaps there are too many somethings that fit, so it's better as an album title anyhow < 1376973220 198390 :btiffin!~btiffin@24-212-223-48.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1376973456 388161 :btiffin!~btiffin@24-212-223-48.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you added GOTO to a bf instruction set, would you assist programmers and unwind any loops between current source position and new, or let them suffer for coding in a bf derivative in the first place? I'm leaning toward suffering and unpredictable behaviour. < 1376973482 946799 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :dan200 < 1376973503 316666 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you adding goto < 1376973520 211414 :btiffin!~btiffin@24-212-223-48.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun. And shortening of 99 bottles. < 1376973538 170089 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, whatever's more fun, then < 1376973543 922443 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376973545 767896 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btiffin: how do you implement GOTOs? < 1376973549 956098 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :named label? < 1376973556 216338 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :relative offset? < 1376973566 477752 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :computed GOTO? < 1376973578 52776 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Line numbers < 1376973592 243581 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, going with the Core Brainfuck Goal i'd use whatever's easier to compile < 1376973611 362827 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: consider U+2028 LINE SEPARATOR ;) < 1376973654 285545 :btiffin!~btiffin@24-212-223-48.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :small s.c.r.i.p.t. is written in COBOL. ! (from Forth) stores last immediate value or memory cell to source-position. It's all written as a GO TO (256 entries) DEPENDING on character-value. Engine just loops over the characters. < 1376973743 769802 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a "GO TO (256 entries) DEPENDING on character-value" like a "ON ... GOTO ..." in BASIC? < 1376973750 628918 :btiffin!~btiffin@24-212-223-48.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :COBOL < 1376973763 489211 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo's asking if it's like basic, not if it's implemented in basic. < 1376973834 123317 :btiffin!~btiffin@24-212-223-48.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, sorry zzo38; no not really, its a computed goto < 1376973842 399791 :btiffin!~btiffin@24-212-223-48.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not an event < 1376973886 40467 :btiffin!~btiffin@24-212-223-48.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops just looked. Yes, yes it is. < 1376973995 325632 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: good lightning today imo < 1376974994 986203 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376975508 860569 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah what's with that < 1376975511 647872 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no rain < 1376975517 278901 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the lightning is p. far away < 1376975538 309710 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376975556 877675 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376975604 215625 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376976123 288857 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronostasis hi i hate illusions < 1376976188 352474 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I came to the realisation the other day that I'm not really that much of a fan of sci-fi < 1376976225 846628 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I enjoy FreeFall, Firefly, the Stainless Steel Rat books < 1376976230 38979 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's really it < 1376976252 266004 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered reading real books (you nerde) < 1376976270 110359 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I enjoyed the Girl with the Dragon Tatto < 1376976271 896373 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1376976282 30940 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But couldn't get into - Played with Fire < 1376976659 256646 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stylized things are nice < 1376976873 206178 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "When eyes execute a saccade, perception of time stretches slightly backward." terrifying < 1376977016 894545 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh, it's kind of like, if you have a video with a bad frame, you could copy the frame after it into the bad frame. < 1376977021 380810 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :replacing it < 1376977035 656584 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the visual processing system does this for you conveniently < 1376977052 816176 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like describing saccades as involving 'bad frames' but yeah < 1376977060 641674 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :relatedly: this book pointed out that you can't pan your vision < 1376977067 132588 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now i hate everything because i'm trying it and i can't. < 1376977105 495937 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, like, pan how < 1376977110 412133 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :smoothly. < 1376977118 527792 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like focus on a thing, then smoothly move your focus. < 1376977151 624206 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried moving my head but my eyes jumped anyway :( < 1376977170 151699 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I did it? I just focused on a continual object (e.g. the wall) < 1376977172 778862 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with no points to focus on < 1376977183 93016 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a lot easier if I just spin on my desk chair though -_- < 1376977206 876419 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i try it it's small jerks < 1376977244 320969 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like, I wouldn't notice the jumping if I wasn't thinking about it? < 1376977247 634614 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1376977250 710169 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anywayy the upshot of this is that i spent ten minutes staring at a wall instead of reading. < 1376977258 582014 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading about staring, but still. < 1376977332 216481 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SMBC on memory: http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2020 < 1376977351 454315 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :man memory's a whole other clusterfuck, i'm talkin present experience here motha fucka < 1376977398 190832 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder why he considered memory part of "reality" < 1376977410 672124 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how very.... subjectivist................................ < 1376977413 26991 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the universe was created 5 minutes ago, you're welcome < 1376977418 271627 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :memory is easy. I just kind of don't have it, see, resolved! < 1376977419 471908 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc. < 1376977469 51678 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is a hand < 1376977472 29282 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't help think that bearable is a pun, either < 1376977477 436091 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't say < 1376977491 963206 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed I don't! < 1376977503 137792 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tru < 1376977520 789317 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: what did you just say? < 1376977591 860703 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :other annoying vision things: apparently the vestibulo-ocular reflex doesn't actually fully counter motion, so your eyes receive totally different input when you turn your head, but it doesn't look like the world's actually moving < 1376977664 40096 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what does that mean? < 1376977691 795602 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, your eyes point in a different direction than they were, so the light they receieve is totally different < 1376977695 103616 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but your vision is still stable < 1376977696 507237 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that my memory is horrifically awful < 1376977713 912504 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also applies to saccades < 1376977718 363914 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: see, you remembered. < 1376977722 680761 :dan200!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.1415926535897932384626433832 < 1376977727 897616 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you looked at what you said. but that's cheating. < 1376977728 654746 :dan200!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a good memory .-. < 1376977734 419685 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I did < 1376977737 601787 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dan200: now do euler-mascheroni < 1376977755 8079 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora just reads the whole day's log whenever she needs to respond to anything < 1376977801 135382 :dan200!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1376977811 814885 :dan200!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that seriously a lim 1 infinity < 1376977815 270034 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the euler-mascheroni constant. recite it. < 1376977822 656909 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a couple digits, anyway. < 1376977842 371293 :dan200!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :93C467E37DB0C7 < 1376977855 200821 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow suck'z < 1376977876 52044 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :catalan nembers < 1376977885 835627 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :catalan nimbers < 1376977908 266014 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well that's like, short term memory < 1376977922 110257 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :long term memory is basically just a bunch of facts, and if I'm lucky, a past event in my life might be in one of those fact boxes < 1376977934 122496 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's more likely that the fact box will contain, like, the name of a pokemon < 1376977962 760490 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I got random pokemon whenever I tried to think of something < 1376977971 657203 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. I don't actually know the plural of pokemon < 1376977973 463060 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wingull. < 1376977974 658601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME dan200 < 1376977976 219231 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should just use your procedural memory instead. so whenever you tap your fingers in a certain order you can remember the name of that boy who threw sand in your face in the second grade, making you cry < 1376977977 20008 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​DAN200: WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE DESIGN AND DEPLOYMENT! FOR MORE INFORMAT < 1376977980 198093 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: pokemen < 1376977984 824610 :dan200!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1376977985 371502 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: amazing. < 1376977989 116394 :dan200!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im already welcomed < 1376977993 601131 :dan200!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1376977993 859138 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the most part, it's different neurons that respond differently to different stimuli. < 1376977995 848509 :dan200!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :three times < 1376977997 484625 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dan200: they really like welcoming you a lot, unfortunately < 1376977999 226362 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1376978001 588119 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got welcomed, like, 7 times < 1376978006 14513 :dan200!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THREE TIMES I HAVE BEEN WELCOMED < 1376978012 208605 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: not in this case! < 1376978012 672071 :dan200!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not including when i was here 3 years ago < 1376978012 975053 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcoming is at least n^2 < 1376978023 942784 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to welcome yourself too < 1376978024 393445 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs lcome Fiora < 1376978025 390766 :dan200!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must have been welcomed 10 times ;_; < 1376978045 783612 :dan200!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE dan200 < 1376978049 616891 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :DaN200: WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: HtTp://eSoLaNgS.OrG/WiKi/mAiN_PaGe. (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1376978054 297357 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I do recall memory neurons being a bit differently behaving. < 1376978056 861557 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Fiora < 1376978059 187808 :dan200!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D i knew that one < 1376978062 609931 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no not again ;_; < 1376978062 964810 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i don't mean memory < 1376978064 326017 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.419 < 1376978066 500139 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​05Fi11or08a: W12elcome to08 the int03er06national hub for 06e12soteric programmi03n09g la13nguage design07 and 14deployment! For mor02e inf03o07rmation, check out our w11iki: http:05//esolan12g12s.org/12wiki/Main_Pag03e07. (For 03the other kind o13f07 esoterica, try 14#e05soteric on04 irc.dal.14n10et04.) < 1376978069 745529 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I'm just letting you know you're still welcome!! < 1376978091 789388 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: wow there are ten welcomes in this log. < 1376978099 884372 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the first day, i mean. < 1376978102 301096 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, was I actually right @_@ < 1376978109 799025 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait no I said 7 < 1376978110 280634 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you underestimated < 1376978111 813889 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :help I have no memory < 1376978118 415291 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was dan who said 10 < 1376978127 363484 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you repressed the memories of the other 3 welcomes. it was just too much < 1376978145 270599 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the welcome isn't even that great. we devote a large portion of it to advertising for unrelated channels. < 1376978162 2687 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need to repress memories, I just lose them normally -_- < 1376978193 347800 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds convenient when you put it that way < 1376978240 558034 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376978262 378487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The welcomes of doom | 22nd IOCCC is open: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | jsvine is doing an esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q/viewform | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1376979260 549826 :btiffin!~btiffin@24-212-223-48.cable.teksavvy.com PART :#esoteric < 1376980170 618241 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1376980349 77355 :dan200!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376981948 309163 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376983420 641582 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376984196 217506 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376984679 310330 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1376984702 383205 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1376986703 655922 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1376987274 322732 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376987702 274546 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1376989070 725457 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376989101 539251 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376989238 470484 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages-loud < 1376989238 615185 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo said 2d 12h 24m 11s ago: Oh hai < 1376989244 230788 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1376990057 658131 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje < 1376990718 234033 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1376990751 347924 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1376991435 837419 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1376991557 983437 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376993421 733750 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376993708 705758 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376995319 408013 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376995442 763661 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376995552 409672 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1376997199 144594 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1376997261 955885 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1376997312 21897 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Client Quit < 1376997668 665528 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376998154 254559 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376998741 206164 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377000088 445625 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1377000362 871157 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377000671 219301 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1377000724 235767 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377002829 303712 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377002836 959691 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377003287 944868 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1377003479 766651 :rahni11!31b70ef1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.49.183.14.241 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377003492 384351 :rahni11!31b70ef1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.49.183.14.241 QUIT :Client Quit < 1377003801 378020 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1377004034 50087 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1377006170 493821 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good dreamy morning! < 1377006182 240923 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :'morning, boily < 1377006184 231719 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's life? < 1377006192 865557 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I finally had a dream where something happens! < 1377006199 92148 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1377006200 355546 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do tell < 1377006226 706193 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :granted, I was only pestling cheese in a salad bowl with a potato masher, but still! it was something! < 1377006237 573020 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You gotta take what you can, eh < 1377006252 677049 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows, maybe I was cooking pierogies... < 1377006276 402313 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. P(that) = .76 < 1377006326 356343 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first time I tried, they were delicious. but because I had never seen them, I didn't have a reference scale. a girl at school who saw them told me they were strangely gigantic :D < 1377006341 651755 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tried IRL, s'entend. < 1377006368 944250 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :On s'entend < 1377006421 453071 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a nice café on côte st-luc near villa-maria that serves brunches on Sunday mornings. there's always a bunch of nicely burned pierogies with your plate. they taste good. < 1377006679 336606 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :They must < 1377006682 218968 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is known < 1377007094 138068 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAURGH. someone asked a question on SO, the question was closed because there's an accepted answer, and the answer links to a dead github repo. < 1377007111 517964 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION smashes his forehead on an empty corner of his desk. < 1377007271 547488 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1377007275 913836 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Shake" to "Shake" < 1377007523 237738 :Pouti!84cba988@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.203.169.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377007539 834273 :Pouti!84cba988@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.203.169.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily : Gnyeeeeh < 1377007554 976385 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pouti: c'est que tu fais là, toi? < 1377007592 570758 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: stop conspiring with my bro behind my back, you fiend. < 1377007605 832675 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1377007624 414260 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, Pouti < 1377007627 562489 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pouti, boily < 1377007692 173912 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Pouti is boily's brother. he's also Canadian, and he closes the Roujo pointer loop. < 1377007696 701975 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377007713 527604 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm immensely scared < 1377007743 118628 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome "The Boilys" < 1377007746 24956 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​0814"The: B11oilys":13 W12elcom06e to the internati11onal hub f08or08 esoter04i08c p10rogramming language design and d10ep04lo10yment09! F08or more i10nformation, chec02k out our wi02ki: htt03p://esola08ngs.12org/wiki/Main_P14age.07 (For the other03 kind of esoterica, 03try #esote11ric on irc.dal.ne07t.) < 1377007746 170321 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no worries. he's a nice guy. worse that can happen is for you to be even more Canadianned than usual. probably some weirdness and vile puns on the side. < 1377007836 721356 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: don't you have a brother too? < 1377007862 913950 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377008104 69505 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, yes I have a brother < 1377008139 388989 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's not that in to esolanging < 1377008148 588127 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can find him playing League of Legends most hours of the day < 1377008265 780566 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. that most common modern drug. < 1377008289 406171 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is he a total dickhead < 1377008398 414345 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :saturationsaturationsaturationsaturation < 1377008408 691227 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, yeah < 1377008415 345978 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: doing chemistry? < 1377008429 474344 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, just laughing < 1377008432 509973 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, that's a horrible thing to say about your brother < 1377008438 896487 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that I don't play LoL, so I might have done it wrong >_> < 1377008457 997847 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, he's my younger brother, it's practically my duty to say horrible things about him < 1377008492 420396 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's your duty to lock him in bathrooms etc. < 1377008506 379621 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's your duty to set an example and support him < 1377008520 392035 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, that's what I try to do with my younger brothers >_> < 1377008568 735301 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we can all see how that turned out < 1377008574 16273 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my brother and I are the same, but him more than me. < 1377008615 567302 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, it's time to ask the The Question. < 1377008625 586101 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pouti, what are your approximate coördinates and body weigh? < 1377008640 700469 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :dat gratuitous tréma < 1377008642 398620 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I already know the coördinates) < 1377008654 64527 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not gratuïtous! < 1377008656 438438 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: it is fär from gratuitous̈! it < 1377008659 942029 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is tradition! < 1377008679 68081 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, that, however, is < 1377008730 750088 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's beside the (pair of) point. < 1377008772 410579 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't he be filling that information into jsvine's survey anyway < 1377008808 772491 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't boily pretty much know the information already anyway? =P < 1377008810 262750 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, but I think we don't have access to the results yet. < 1377008849 299213 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: about the coördinates, yes. but not the body weigh. I'd say about the same as me, but you never know. < 1377008869 740117 :hogeyui____!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1377008886 727091 :Pouti!84cba988@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.203.169.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will settle the matter : N 46, W71, 145 lbs < 1377008899 117398 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1377008905 723150 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :5-letter nicks UNITE < 1377008909 30923 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :o/ < 1377008973 839913 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see how us Canadians are polite and coöperative! our entries are well formatted and meaningful! < 1377008977 756761 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION glares at FreeFull < 1377008980 45238 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1377009035 817655 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat boily | cat > boily < 1377009045 54187 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1377009048 675649 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure < 1377009057 838024 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat boily | echo > boily < 1377009066 235095 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat dog | echo > dog < 1377009069 180754 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377009074 273808 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1377009106 526301 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't FreeFull a swede < 1377009139 243675 :Pouti!84cba988@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.203.169.136 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1377009156 743594 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: no idea. < 1377009186 849992 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, I hate python. “TypeError: browse() takes at least 4 arguments (4 given)”. < 1377009564 213488 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'm a pole < 1377009581 447912 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1377009584 457333 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's less worse < 1377009628 5980 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'm a thin vertical thing rather than a vegetable < 1377009814 978356 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not mutually exclusive, though < 1377009840 413155 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, FreeFull is a carrot? < 1377009896 161497 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1377009898 540880 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1377009900 638368 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a caret < 1377009903 61442 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1377010145 682872 :hogeyui____!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1377010162 339550 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shoots Roujo with a punctual bow < 1377010171 743346 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're late, boily < 1377010175 350473 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't work like that < 1377010272 453026 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time is of no importance. space doesn't matter. empty your mind, open your soul, and receive the blessings of a Happy Meal® toy. < 1377010629 341032 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thinking of Maud, you forget everything else < 1377010808 621473 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily < 1377010811 371460 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you so violent < 1377010898 36170 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat pacifism >> boily < 1377011068 596101 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1377011077 982429 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the difference between cat pacifism and normal pacifism < 1377011105 564040 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aloofness, for one < 1377011245 311407 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1377011425 649356 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :<boily> ooooooh. Vorpal has a secret identity! <-- it was my previous nick < 1377011468 288874 :Pouti!84cba988@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.203.169.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377011490 282802 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :'sup, Pouti < 1377011495 987268 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I am not violent. it is Beneficial Preemptive Behaviour Correction (ISO 12800⅞) < 1377011549 846072 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, you're like some weird belgian hitler < 1377011567 442599 :Pouti!84cba988@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.203.169.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just trying to see if i can create photoinduced anistropy in chalcogenide glasses by appropriate exposure to linearly polarized light < 1377011578 139498 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not Belgian! < 1377011592 700073 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I am. < 1377011627 719357 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Why do you associate belgium with hitler < 1377011681 100290 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't, i associate both with boily < 1377011947 683465 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan according to wiki's chart of diaphonemes to regional dialects, /poːlət/. < 1377011947 868407 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377012004 370218 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo Hats < 1377012006 433028 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hats < 1377012017 472413 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo @tell Roujo Hays < 1377012018 585475 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@tell Roujo Hays < 1377012025 767507 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? =P < 1377012042 373293 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's a shame < 1377012086 215122 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: HackEgo is unloopable. it inserts a ZWSP before any /^[^:alpha:]/. < 1377012117 262237 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1377012123 459822 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it can't give commands to other bots, got it < 1377012137 723512 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~style < 1377012137 909305 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1377012140 850424 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMMIT < 1377012141 595776 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just make a bot with a prefix that matches [:alpha:] < 1377012144 688971 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I got it right =P < 1377012154 999261 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo Hats < 1377012155 143905 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hats < 1377012160 567256 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo @tell Roujo Hats < 1377012160 712197 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Roujo Hats < 1377012160 856951 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377012163 542637 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1377012166 802048 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1377012166 946979 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :metasepia said 6s ago: Hats < 1377012188 829703 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@echo Hats < 1377012188 974453 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo; msg:IrcMessage {ircMsgServer = "freenode", ircMsgLBName = "lambdabot", ircMsgPrefix = "Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo", ircMsgCommand = "PRIVMSG", ircMsgParams = ["#esoteric",":@echo Hats"]} < 1377012188 974663 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :target:#esoteric rest:"Hats" < 1377012195 410125 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pats metasepia and gives a candy jellyfish < 1377012204 400234 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, @echo is a bit more involved =P < 1377012227 192691 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for no apparent reason, lambdabots picks up logs from my bot. < 1377012235 794291 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ts/t/ < 1377012476 115653 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1377012488 259721 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you made a bot < 1377012507 498155 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that ignored the first character of every message send by hackego, you could make it loop < 1377012523 915718 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless there is another defence mechanism I'm not aware of :( < 1377012559 791623 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, I could just make Emily ignore any invisible character < 1377012604 720501 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that would break bold and 4c7o8l9o12r1, and I don't want that < 1377012657 887572 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you ought to make your bot join this channel. < 1377012669 894513 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should fix her first < 1377012680 717910 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason, her prefix detection is broken < 1377012712 771759 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :She'll react to any keyword she knows, even if it wasn't addressed to her < 1377012803 405783 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm curious to see what would the aftermath of an epic fungot/Emily match would be... < 1377012803 550653 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that is just a value of type is created containing the syntax for mark if he was really gonna get worse and worse each week, i fnord kara to hold me until i fell over.... < 1377012964 586744 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try to fix her, then I'll bring her in < 1377012980 441225 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, the nickname "Emily" is already taken < 1377012988 121873 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :As is "Aurora", her usual alternative < 1377013044 359260 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: any advice on an alternate name? < 1377013044 504075 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that is just a value of type is created containing the syntax for mark if he was really gonna get worse and worse each week, < 1377013055 261405 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1377013056 494584 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1377013059 913667 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how to take this < 1377013073 269744 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: any different advice? < 1377013075 852642 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll start by fixing her =P < 1377013083 607246 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: my bot (if that was the one you meant) is even more annoying than fungot, if turned on < 1377013083 761736 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: perhaps, if i could but learn is when you're fairies, you probably want is broken" archives. even less chance. i called " o" in " the other side has. you came through and through and through and through and through and through and through and through and through and through and through and through and through and through and through and through and through and through and through and through and through and through < 1377013115 261683 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: There's a loop in the markov chain :( < 1377013124 142213 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: you could nick her "AndThrough" for the match. < 1377013136 558444 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh =P < 1377013138 985875 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: you have a bot? never seen it. < 1377013155 6029 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it learns from the channel, here is a fix: through and this goes on < 1377013155 273633 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Twist: AnotherTest is his own bot < 1377013184 434046 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly another fix: and through because I don't know the other < 1377013191 273870 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do you want to? < 1377013241 895498 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it has some brain damage < 1377013268 220639 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to people on another network spamming it < 1377013269 899417 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a problem. I am intrigued, and of a experimento-scientific mood today. < 1377013290 404046 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I guess that's what's happenes when you give a bot op < 1377013305 298177 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a cool mini-programming-language-kind of thing too < 1377013415 944330 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: It's not the only one. < 1377013503 333117 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: And it might not be an actual loop in the model, I think there's some bug in fungot's interpretation of them; because I've debugged some earlier loops by asking my Perl prototyping code for the actual probabilities, and they're not quite loopy. < 1377013503 516434 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is that something you know and and the cases that required to actually mutate the original ( sorted, perhaps, it may be said that particularly here, parliament will give a single instance, < 1377013607 154650 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: (If it is an actual loop, your fixes might not help, because it's most likely a loop with a longer context only; I think I need to add and through and through some exits through and through and like this.) < 1377013611 738699 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1377013611 883812 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot* homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1377013621 217981 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, well, fungot style... < 1377013621 362821 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie:. i'm so kind, even to assholes! anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov < 1377013649 485293 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: okay here it comes. I can't enable its text generator immediately because it doesn't have a memory file yet < 1377013657 250993 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that was another loop :p < 1377013684 83924 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: It's in fact a loop from some other style, copied over to fungot style. < 1377013684 228690 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that is just a value of type " airbus is a big fan of avril....but this song " there ain't no difference from before! i'm being held prisoner on other subjects, the european council decided at its meeting on 30 april, or even this very difficult issue is discussed, it should be deleted, not merged. but new england flood of may, 1765, curwen's only child, it's ancient history now... < 1377013761 748525 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377013892 424756 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a general rule, the smaller models are somewhat more prone to repetition for the obvious reason. < 1377013909 570560 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also that's a nice blend of europarl, lovecraft and whatnot. < 1377013923 264928 :Pouti!84cba988@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.203.169.136 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1377013937 771713 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :irc and youtube, I think. < 1377013973 593591 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck europarl < 1377013974 147244 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The European Parliament (abbreviated as Europarl or the EP) is the directly elected parliamentary institution of the European Union (EU). < 1377014105 458410 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style europarl < 1377014105 640181 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: europarl (European Parliament speeches during approx. 1996-2006) < 1377014128 913743 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What do you think of the state of the economy? < 1377014131 570282 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i voted in favour of the abolition of controls on the phasing out of single-hull oil tankers and safety in our energy policy. first of all, i would like to argue for continuing development aid. the commission is keeping a close watch on affairs, and this aid begins with the definition of works contracts, public authorities and administrations have an important role in fnord terrorists crossing from its territory into ir < 1377014161 801089 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, fnord terrorists. < 1377014191 785491 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also: phasing out safety in our energy policy?) < 1377014263 104792 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Are you in favour of phasing out safety in general? < 1377014284 249805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it got tired of me. < 1377014308 618628 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377014562 848712 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that timeout thing on fungot is the worst btw < 1377014563 563261 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: mr president, i plead for fnord action at the same time, try to improve the existing regulations in this sphere, like others, i approve of parliament's insistence in giving the european parliament should contemplate a debate at european level. < 1377014603 376266 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377014621 924362 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377014636 977561 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: samantus is my bod < 1377014637 159774 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: My bod < 1377014640 621382 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bot < 1377014647 848170 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :?chatrate:0 < 1377014648 5334 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1377014658 457114 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: test < 1377014658 631929 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Bod bod < 1377014667 755132 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, don't talk to it < 1377014670 712745 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1377014679 353733 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not in my bot's own access list < 1377014679 892892 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: Bod? < 1377014680 57437 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Command < 1377014684 902481 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: Command! < 1377014685 47507 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: < 1377014685 47681 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric : command < 1377014690 742301 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: Why < 1377014690 886932 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Is my bod < 1377014695 672699 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: Bod is my bod < 1377014695 817422 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Is my bod < 1377014697 232239 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: Bod is my bod < 1377014697 377054 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: My bod < 1377014698 447288 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: Bod is my bod < 1377014698 591988 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Bod is my bod < 1377014699 517260 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: Bod is my bod < 1377014699 661803 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Is my bod < 1377014702 512493 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't talk to it... < 1377014704 652546 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1377014706 578877 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1377014713 907499 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only knows like 5 sentences < 1377014732 959618 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not interesting anyway < 1377014733 757070 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of them being about bod < 1377014775 831051 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`id "Test."; < 1377014776 12200 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Test. < 1377014777 33297 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :id: "Test.";: No such user < 1377014778 990379 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : <hint>:1:6: < 1377014779 135130 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched ... < 1377014782 825220 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, cool, that still works. < 1377014803 293397 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok I need to change the character that starts a command... < 1377014813 624807 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't have access... so I need to restart it :( < 1377014838 292598 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377014894 95307 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1377014900 536068 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :%help < 1377014905 527655 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice, open prefix < 1377014999 998722 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... < 1377015005 547077 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :All that's missing is a nick, now < 1377015200 705620 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need two prefixed < 1377015205 837560 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*prefixes < 1377015212 190287 :Emilie!~Emily@modemcable226.119-70-69.static.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1377015221 647718 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1377015226 383058 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377015297 141853 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :She has a couple of quirks, still < 1377015304 608728 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But she should be alright < 1377015342 847574 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they can be multiple characters wide < 1377015353 359991 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :%help < 1377015356 504 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :%%% < 1377015365 674260 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :iamfishead < 1377015370 826494 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that has been on the todo list for way too damn long < 1377015373 317646 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :iamfishhead: hi < 1377015382 135722 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :%roll 3d5 < 1377015382 320552 :Emilie!~Emily@modemcable226.119-70-69.static.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Results of 3d5: 10 <3 < 1377015383 276320 :Emilie!~Emily@modemcable226.119-70-69.static.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Rolls: 4, 3, 3 <3 < 1377015391 460211 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"" seems like a good command character < 1377015402 808692 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, sounds like it wouldn't be use by accident < 1377015440 673212 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377015443 15601 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :%regex compile Hi, my name is (\w) and I'm ([0-9]+) years old < 1377015443 206789 :Emilie!~Emily@modemcable226.119-70-69.static.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Pattern compiled! <3 < 1377015454 198114 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :%regex match Hi, my name is Roujo and I'm 22 years old < 1377015454 397390 :Emilie!~Emily@modemcable226.119-70-69.static.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: No match! <3 < 1377015455 17380 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have "" for the command language and '' for the configuration < 1377015457 198524 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit =P < 1377015462 927999 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :""id "Test". < 1377015472 684180 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that didn't work, samantus < 1377015472 960726 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Didnt work samantus < 1377015480 515482 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :%regex compile Hi, my name is ([A-z]+) and I'm ([0-9]+) years old < 1377015480 763657 :Emilie!~Emily@modemcable226.119-70-69.static.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Pattern compiled! <3 < 1377015483 376908 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :%regex match Hi, my name is Roujo and I'm 22 years old < 1377015483 575289 :Emilie!~Emily@modemcable226.119-70-69.static.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Match! <3 < 1377015484 601085 :Emilie!~Emily@modemcable226.119-70-69.static.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Group #1: Roujo <3 < 1377015485 571455 :Emilie!~Emily@modemcable226.119-70-69.static.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Group #2: 22 <3 < 1377015488 332240 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1377015496 328574 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably tone down the <3 part =P < 1377015511 630483 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"id "Test." < 1377015570 822012 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :22 isn't less than three at all. < 1377015576 423783 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :22 is, in fact, greater than three. < 1377015599 35551 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1377015599 778905 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1377015600 529633 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1377015606 400244 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah... >_< < 1377015640 647380 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ) used yet? < 1377015644 353980 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :) abc < 1377015644 694074 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: |value error: abc < 1377015648 893829 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right... < 1377015660 703098 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about ] < 1377015663 588927 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :] abc < 1377015684 652759 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( abc < 1377015744 229193 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377015749 464570 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :] abc < 1377015755 157832 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh =P < 1377015823 977859 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377015840 537953 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"" id "I think this was the best option... if it works."; < 1377015848 422822 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377015852 135755 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it doesn't :p < 1377015864 716439 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a lot of trouble with this bot on a different network < 1377015890 691710 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) because it annoys people who write in caps to much (along with other stuff) < 1377015905 554476 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) because it eventually tries to kick those people (although it's not admin here) < 1377015923 151541 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :3) because it has a (disabled) feature to annoy people at random < 1377015938 183262 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :4) because you can add commands to it < 1377015961 347287 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377015974 971304 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20130818120421175 uh, wow. < 1377016005 492950 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other words, the most annoying bot ever < 1377016009 29566 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377016086 863502 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Point 4 looks more like a pro than a con. < 1377016118 11844 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It privmsging me "<samantus> Oops, seems like something went wrong..." after that comment was definitely more a con than a pro, though. < 1377016118 156377 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It privmsging me oops seems like something went wrong after that comment was definitely more a con < 1377016132 496292 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to: keep happening. < 1377016152 676611 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I think I know why < 1377016162 944129 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"" id "Test."; < 1377016170 689428 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :'' id "Test"; < 1377016182 941442 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Well crap =/ < 1377016237 266671 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: does it happen for every message you send? < 1377016249 662537 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I have it too < 1377016269 687664 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think everyone is getting annoyed, because the command character is officially the empty string < 1377016274 63137 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :id "It is..."; < 1377016274 218924 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> It is... < 1377016275 431988 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : <hint>:1:9: < 1377016275 576810 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched ... < 1377016293 701710 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377016365 513175 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope it's fixed now, and it won't annoy you anymore < 1377016368 911748 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377016383 910353 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :""id "Test"; < 1377016408 784887 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :pff, "" is a bad choice, the configuration file thinks that's a string < 1377016450 712281 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I will end up using ]] < 1377016461 654249 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377016509 302756 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377016510 167142 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would probably have done all of this in some empty channel < 1377016515 112929 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :but whatever < 1377017196 676891 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would probably be a good idea, yeah =P < 1377017240 732308 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377017283 259649 :jix_!~jix@5.9.180.88 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377017294 834498 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from lunch. so samantus is another's? < 1377017294 979328 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: So samantus is anothers < 1377017303 492314 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite < 1377017685 362993 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is < 1377017692 304359 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not really sure if it works though < 1377017719 731466 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] id "Does it?"; < 1377017719 876770 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Does it? < 1377017720 866434 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : <hint>:1:9: < 1377017721 10946 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched ... < 1377017741 280924 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does, but lambdabot reacts due to the > < 1377017750 291405 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't lambdabot ignore someone? < 1377017791 344928 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca NOTICE #esoteric :> Does it? < 1377017855 124974 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like @ignore samantus... < 1377017855 269730 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Something like samantus < 1377017866 921391 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: no, not something like YOU < 1377017867 66173 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Not something like samantus < 1377017892 382386 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rofl =P < 1377017904 842615 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: I agree. your bot is most uniquely annoying :p < 1377017928 965581 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo NOTICE #esoteric :Well, we can always just talk in notices < 1377017938 624480 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo NOTICE #esoteric :But that's a tad annoying-er < 1377017994 130775 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure lambdabot can in fact ignore someone, but you need to be a more powerfuller person to set it to do so. < 1377017997 690732 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1377018016 229931 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is the powerfullest of this channel? is it elliott? < 1377018029 341248 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In regards to lambdabot, that's a safe bet. < 1377018033 809038 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Doesn't he run it these days?) < 1377018052 823766 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe there are some other lambdabot operators on channel too. < 1377018056 693336 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377018091 361091 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377018099 321491 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1377018189 389082 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it is. < 1377018207 802661 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gets better as it learns more though < 1377018219 326230 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't it, samantus? < 1377018219 470779 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: It samantus < 1377018222 800666 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok no < 1377018258 163372 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1377018366 372184 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin < 1377018366 516804 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges < 1377018370 508790 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, I was hoping for a list. < 1377018378 151328 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list admins < 1377018378 336194 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No module "admins" loaded < 1377018382 911786 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1377018401 209793 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only admins are permitted to know who the admins are. < 1377018402 176535 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be "@ignore + somebody", but that also needs privvelegs. < 1377018470 197887 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list admin < 1377018470 342653 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :system provides: listchans listmodules listservers list echo uptime < 1377018481 647558 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admins < 1377018481 791942 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges < 1377018485 116985 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well crap < 1377018495 237631 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check privilege < 1377018496 444921 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `privilege' < 1377018504 154070 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that's just sad < 1377018526 49120 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377018586 359352 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1377018624 871116 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, you can't rely on a bot to check your privilege for you! :3 < 1377018639 653530 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Not even admins are permitted to know. < 1377018749 872879 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]]whois "lambdabot"; < 1377018750 17660 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> lambdabot is an annoying person/bot. < 1377018751 85076 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : <hint>:1:37: < 1377018751 229655 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched... < 1377018753 955579 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1377018780 574860 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :]]whois "boily"; < 1377018780 719476 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> boily is an annoying person/bot. < 1377018781 558565 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : <hint>:1:33: < 1377018781 703142 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched... < 1377018785 219368 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beuh. < 1377018794 776155 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I just wrote that quickly :( < 1377018817 796233 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice outlook on the world: everyone's an annoying person/bot. < 1377018840 316797 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]]whois $x = add $x " is a VERY annoying person/bot (just not boily and AnotherTest)"; < 1377018851 398389 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]]whois "fizzie"; < 1377018851 580634 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fizzie is an annoying person/bot. < 1377018856 186195 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1377018862 99948 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I made an error < 1377018866 176932 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : <hint>:1:34: < 1377018866 321525 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched... < 1377018877 680472 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]]whois $x = add $x " is a VERY annoying person/bot (just not boily and AnotherTest)"; < 1377018878 917412 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION knocks out kmc with a hammer and begins peeling off large portions of his skin, ^v then ties kmc to a ceiling fan where he repeatively is hit in the head by lamps < 1377018883 890287 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew irssi < 1377018886 947378 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do enter < 1377018915 224172 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp < 1377018919 422768 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internet is going down here < 1377018919 713191 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]]let whois $x = add $x " is a VERY annoying person/bot (this does not apply to boily/AnotherTest)"; < 1377018923 392255 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :TTYL < 1377018924 325154 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: what did kmc do to warrant such helicoïdal ceiling punishment? < 1377018930 774107 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: à à plus! < 1377018934 696499 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]]whois "Roujo"; < 1377018934 841156 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Roujo is a VERY annoying person/bot (this does not apply to boily/AnotherTest) < 1377018935 792461 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: data constructor `Roujo'Not in scope: `is' < 1377018935 937388 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant... < 1377018936 659871 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1377018946 8708 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1377018972 496547 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could do if statements although I think I would have to add a built-in function for that < 1377018995 80407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1377019219 4907 :Emilie!~Emily@modemcable226.119-70-69.static.videotron.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377019239 422508 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] mul "kmc" 5 < 1377019242 581816 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh damn < 1377019248 683069 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] mul "kmc" 5; < 1377019248 828524 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> kmckmckmckmckmc < 1377019251 840604 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `kmckmckmckmckmc' < 1377019317 850406 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] cat "1" mul "+ 1 " 5; < 1377019362 889595 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] add "1" (mul "+ 1 " 5); < 1377019363 34344 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1+ 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 < 1377019384 239398 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6 < 1377019385 159946 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Harken to the Voice of KmcKmcKmcKmcKmc! Listen to His Paroles and Questionments! Hear the Ceiling Fan Fwop Him Around Lamps! < 1377019397 5414 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was under the impression that either kmc or shachaf were lambdabot mad-mins. If that's the case, one of them could maybe have it ignore that bot? < 1377019398 827868 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :cross-bot haskell < 1377019402 187443 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at that < 1377019423 353866 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's only so many "parse errors" and "not in scopes" that a person can take.) < 1377019425 483465 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] add "1" (mul "+ 1 " 5); < 1377019425 628286 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1+ 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 < 1377019426 534520 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6 < 1377019446 579353 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you chain metasepia to the haskell delegation? < 1377019465 833555 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: behold the uncropped error messages that a marine animal can produce! < 1377019470 135714 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't see parse error there :<removethis, it's to avoid warn>) < 1377019471 840659 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo ]] add "1 " (mul "+ 1 " 5); < 1377019472 84574 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] add "1 " (mul "+ 1 " 5); < 1377019472 229394 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 < 1377019473 196276 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6 < 1377019479 766490 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not < 1377019480 627025 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t mconcat .: replicate < 1377019481 350509 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth. < 1377019482 386624 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `.:' < 1377019482 531469 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1377019482 531680 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : `.' (imported from Data.Function), < 1377019485 364088 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think shachaf is < 1377019505 17630 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t let (.:) = (.).(.) in mconcat .: replicate < 1377019506 93494 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoid c => Int -> c -> c < 1377019552 559543 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] add "1" mul "* 5" 10 < 1377019556 250369 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] add "1" mul "* 5" 10; < 1377019556 395128 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1* 5* 5* 5* 5* 5* 5* 5* 5* 5* 5 < 1377019557 282139 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9765625 < 1377019589 322380 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whether I an actually trick it into an infinte loop < 1377019594 801891 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we not. < 1377019606 627311 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :New bot implies new botloops, I suppose. < 1377019618 276183 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] let inf_loop = id inf_loop; < 1377019627 171298 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]]inf_loop; < 1377019633 302329 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] add 5 5; < 1377019634 238090 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that sort of loop. < 1377019642 158781 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it worked < 1377019658 323683 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ignore < 1377019658 468246 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^(EgoBot|HackEgo|toBogE|Sparkbot|optbot|lambdabot|oonbotti|metasepia|jconn)! < 1377019662 108445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: not legitimately < 1377019667 471812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1377019669 452898 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, it didn't < 1377019670 651171 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless that's what "mad-min" means) < 1377019671 431219 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377019675 994966 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ignore ^(EgoBot|HackEgo|toBogE|Sparkbot|optbot|lambdabot|oonbotti|metasepia|jconn|samantus)! < 1377019676 139683 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Was kmc < 1377019676 139893 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1377019688 612829 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just pre-empting.) < 1377019692 94354 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why was I attacked by ^v just now < 1377019700 90675 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if we get fungot to say samantus < 1377019700 235316 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: If we get fungot to say samantus < 1377019703 783391 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: madam president, it is customary to accept roll-call votes after time. finally, i want to highlight the derisory nature of this parliament the development and promotion of cultural diversity, but these certainly will not be helpful to consumers either, since the proposal has been welcomed by many speakers in the debate, because peace, one of your colleagues will be voting in the various countries of the union, not < 1377019706 473559 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: could you subtly, like, I don't know, maybe accidentally, perhaps, unignore metasepia? like, in a totally fortuitous manner. < 1377019720 47114 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that should be easy < 1377019727 261985 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow i doubt nixon has said "samantus" < 1377019727 406727 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Said samantus < 1377019731 100142 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1377019741 586289 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] id "Hi, fungot."; < 1377019741 767998 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Hi, fungot. < 1377019742 670326 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : <hint>:1:3: parse error on input `,' < 1377019743 580807 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: commission. ( de) mr president, i wish to emphasise that between the first and the third pillar into the community legal order and its shared institutions mean that it has to be done in relation to farming. one of the most alert, able and fnord of this parliament, as the treaties have to be accompanied by an exhaustive study. the council could not amend the social partners, the us should pause and reflect on the co < 1377019744 362060 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: who was kmc? what was his secret identity? is he also Vorpal? < 1377019744 506661 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: His secret identity is he also vorpal < 1377019755 588112 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew it! < 1377019755 981705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: what do you do? < 1377019756 126449 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Do you do < 1377019768 619355 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so fungot already ignores samantus? < 1377019768 763962 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Fungot already ignores samantus < 1377019769 871379 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: madam president, i also believe it is most unfortunate that an exception should not constitute a means of channelling the future funding of development projects in south africa, the meda programme was threatened until last night. the years go by and i hope that you will be putting forward ideas for joint management and, above all, we have no truck with greedy financial cheats certainly not with the intention of the < 1377019777 529706 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: That's what the ^ignore there was all about. < 1377019790 27443 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ah, I missed that < 1377019792 662424 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What, do you have a fungot botloop you've been itching to test or something? < 1377019793 870342 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mr president, i will conclude, if we could in fact stir up ill-feeling, resentment and a great french diplomat used to say, therefore, that learning at least two areas: the establishment of information systems is what it is defending. this is a growing problem. according to the most recent elections in east timor, despite being full of good intentions, through good management of these processes and three-quarters of the < 1377019800 855398 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "samantus"; < 1377019801 20 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Ideas if < 1377019802 482428 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : <hint>:1:11: parse error on input `;' < 1377019812 66577 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "samantus" < 1377019812 211216 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: The character < 1377019813 120571 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "samantus" < 1377019813 265288 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: I send < 1377019822 91090 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: me? oh. no. absolutely not. what would make you believe that? < 1377019827 740351 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, lambdabot buts spaces < 1377019833 265734 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ignore < 1377019843 990955 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :europarl is nice, but does result in somewhat overly long lines. < 1377019844 885777 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure you need fizmin powers. < 1377019851 375551 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Those politicians, they're so verbose.) < 1377019865 94670 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus doesn't seem to be learning a lot < 1377019865 239705 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: To be accompanied by an exhaustive study the council could not amend the social partners the us should pause and reflect on the everyones an annoying < 1377019873 929203 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it's finally starting < 1377019878 557039 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot helps < 1377019880 391645 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: i think i made myself understood. indeed i fear that we would like to know the commission's point of view, we in the european parliament and the constitutional court' s statute. this will provide the opportunity for which i thank you for them, because they too have their dignity and it is time for us to develop a strong eu foreign policy and development aid for bolivia. as one of you makes use of funds for objectiv < 1377019898 872959 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now we have a bot learning from a bot < 1377019947 354237 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ignore ^(EgoBot|HackEgo|toBogE|Sparkbot|optbot|lambdabot|oonbotti|jconn|samantus)! < 1377019947 499158 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Fact comment < 1377019947 499340 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1377019958 390995 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose in the interests of scientific inquiry... < 1377019990 681039 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizze: could you remove samantus from that list just to test :D? < 1377019990 825709 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: You remove samantus from that list just to test or something < 1377020008 943985 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ignore ^(EgoBot|HackEgo|toBogE|Sparkbot|optbot|lambdabot|oonbotti|jconn)! < 1377020009 88572 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1377020022 622055 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, I will close it if things get too bad < 1377020035 957342 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll re-add it if I stop monitoring the situation. < 1377020046 691923 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] id "Hi, fungot. What's up?"; < 1377020046 875778 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Hi, fungot. What's up? < 1377020047 606260 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: mr president, commissioner, we expect really concrete proposals permitting very rapid progress. in the second world war. of course, it will be particularly beneficial in all aspects relating to sexual and reproductive health, the protection of the environment and the rapporteur will have the possibility of declaring biological rest periods on the basis of article 103a, analysis and an indication of the european fam < 1377020047 840140 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: i should like to thank the rapporteur for his report on the revision of the treaty of amsterdam provided the european union < 1377020047 984902 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Treaty of amsterdam provided the european fam < 1377020048 129638 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : <hint>:1:3: parse error on input `,' < 1377020048 318805 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: the fnord report, and i hope that the council understands parliament' s committee chairpersons, whose work will be needed, since illegal immigrants living in several european countries. < 1377020048 463429 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Whose work will be voting in the debate because peace one of you makes use of funds for objectiv < 1377020048 620258 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: madam president, ladies and gentlemen, we have the difficulty of attracting researchers to this field. < 1377020048 764894 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyhow, the logs have some quite impressive botloops. < 1377020048 765073 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Of attracting researchers to this field < 1377020049 697401 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: mr president, commissioner, i will reiterate the facts of that case. but the court of justice. examples of this could now be effectively carried by members of parliament have shown throughout the conciliation procedure has thus very quickly led to a serious irregularity: we are no nearer to achieving the objectives it has set up a group of fnord, a serious malfunction in the department of mrs wallstrm, has announced, < 1377020049 842130 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Parliament have shown throughout the conciliation procedure has thus very quickly led to a serious malfunction in the second world war of course it will be putting forward ideas for joint management and above all we have a bot < 1377020051 152423 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ignore ^(EgoBot|HackEgo|toBogE|Sparkbot|optbot|lambdabot|oonbotti|metasepia|jconn|samantus)! < 1377020051 297134 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: To bet < 1377020051 297318 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1377020060 516918 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy botloop, batman. < 1377020082 786105 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess my ^ignore was kind of unnecessary, because fungot would've stopped at that point even without it. < 1377020083 164338 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: madam president, there are some things which have direct impact. years ago, the european institutions. < 1377020090 580693 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's the only-four-messages-in-a-row rule.) < 1377020095 140526 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Respecting the RFC would obliterate any possibility of a bot loop. < 1377020109 338010 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: there are standards? < 1377020110 541504 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ignore ^(EgoBot|HackEgo|toBogE|Sparkbot|optbot|lambdabot|oonbotti|jconn|samantus)! < 1377020110 686289 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I first < 1377020110 686484 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1377020117 343686 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: That'd be so 1980s. < 1377020122 944913 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: For bot/human communication, yes. < 1377020136 971397 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: bots are supposed to use notices instead of privmsgs. < 1377020144 21136 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. < 1377020147 122642 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: There’s a dedicated command for bot messages. Bots aren’t allowed to trigger stuff from them, only human messages. < 1377020171 783172 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377020176 925160 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I reiterate: meh. < 1377020182 890469 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: samantus isn't a bot, it's a real person! < 1377020183 35116 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Real person < 1377020203 138970 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome azaq23 < 1377020205 718790 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07azaq23: Welcome 04to the in09ter11national hub for esot11eric 10progr04amming lan08guag14e design 09a08nd deployment! For more inform13at04ion, check 14out 03our wiki: http:/13/e07solangs.org/14wik12i/06Ma14in_Pag08e. (F09or the other07 kind 05of 08es05ote09rica, try 09#09e08soteric o14n irc.dal.net.) < 1377020209 509008 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will only believe she is a real person when she adds a random delay before responding. < 1377020229 921464 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: what nationality are you? < 1377020230 66132 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Nationality are you < 1377020275 846092 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I did that once. Except it wasn't random. I calcuated using the average reading and typing speed of a human < 1377020310 189978 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1377020321 934729 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] mul 5 whois "ion"; < 1377020322 79452 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ion is a VERY annoying person/bot (this does not apply to boily/AnotherTest)ion is a VERY annoying person/bot (this does not apply to boily/AnotherTest)ion is a VERY annoying person/bot (this does not apply to boily/AnotherTest)ion is a VERY annoying person/bot (this does not apply to boily/AnotherTest)ion is a VERY annoying person/bot (this does not apply to < 1377020322 79627 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily/AnotherTest) < 1377020322 942772 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : <hint>:1:362: < 1377020323 87625 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatche... < 1377020339 365350 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1377020573 108983 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome samantus < 1377020573 253870 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Lambdabot < 1377020575 736532 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​05samant05us: Welcome to t05he05 interna11tional hu09b for eso07te06ric p09ro03gr10amming 12la14nguage design and deplo14yment! F06or mo08re06 09information, c02h11eck out o06ur wiki: http:11//03es10ol11angs08.14org/wiki/M12ain_Page. (For the oth06er kind o06f esoteri03ca, try #esot09e13ric on irc.dal.net.) < 1377020615 59532 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess since he didn't get that yet, now was the time) < 1377020653 967896 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fear it is generating a very long message < 1377020789 744089 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1377020883 78341 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a noticeable delay when fungot is generating long sequences of babble; it's perhaps not terribly optimized code. < 1377020883 833066 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mr president, commissioner, that those of us from andalusia ask this parliament to get to grips with this is to be hoped that parliament will probably extend tomorrow does nobody any service. then, things will change and meetings will become frequent, because that is what we need now is to join. < 1377020899 867154 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any best practices on optimising befunge? < 1377020914 842001 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: are you still alive? < 1377020914 986622 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Are you powerful < 1377020925 463995 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: ohhh, yes I am very powerful < 1377020925 608629 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Yes i am powerful < 1377020944 529725 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Not that I know of, but you could derive some by looking at the implementation strategies in implementations that see use in production environments. < 1377020955 157893 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: I didn't ask you. I told you. Do you understand the difference? < 1377020955 302572 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Understand the difference < 1377020961 73199 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, nope you don't < 1377020988 504923 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you mean to say there is live befunge in production environments? < 1377020999 85997 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Well, what do you call fungot? < 1377020999 518945 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mr president, thank you for your thoughts, suggestions and criticisms. this also offers new opportunities and new resources for investment in third countries. < 1377021020 418904 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh hm. yeah. I had a brain lapse for a moment there. < 1377021070 457116 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the difference between samantus and fungot is that samantus uses words from the input as the first words for its message. I'm not sure whether this is actually good. < 1377021070 601607 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Its message im not sure whether this is to be a good idea yeah < 1377021070 746268 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: mr president, safety aspects also militate against completion of the internal market. < 1377021114 838210 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Stop trying to show off your education by using words like "militate". < 1377021115 457421 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: madam president, ladies and gentlemen, we live in the dignity that is the difference between an observatory and an agency. this agency will be active soon, because it would then be the international community must not only ensure that appropriate rules exist. the mafia does not exist. < 1377021176 943024 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: Would you like another botwar? < 1377021177 87651 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Would you like another botwar < 1377021200 964403 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: we could have them join another channel < 1377021210 936171 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think samantus could learn a great deal from fungot < 1377021211 80818 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Samantus could learn a great deal from fungot < 1377021211 434181 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: mr president, firstly, to ensure that the authority at community level. another point which gives cause for concern. nevertheless, it must be acknowledged that the chapter on employment in the european consumer. < 1377021244 145533 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: I can join it wherever you like, but it won't reply more than four lines consecutively to any one person, to prevent loops. < 1377021317 57531 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh :( can't you disable that? < 1377021430 490888 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not on a per-channel basis, no. < 1377021438 911742 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And running a second instance sounds a bit too much like work. < 1377021479 228879 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1377021489 794049 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :andd I just got warned! < 1377021494 455478 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :god this bot is annoying < 1377022366 375378 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377022757 796877 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B02DEDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1377022863 504189 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377023191 340971 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, why doesn't tr do its output incrementally? < 1377023210 628333 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know a utility that will? < 1377023258 812561 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you could “perl -e” it? < 1377023279 168245 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU sed has a -u "unbuffered" mode. < 1377023319 883794 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"load minimal amounts of data from the input files and flush the output buffers more often" < 1377023331 484121 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"unbuffered" = "flush buffers more often"? < 1377023342 628603 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought "unbuffered" = "no buffers to flush" < 1377023361 373994 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they mean medium-rare buffered? < 1377023373 572752 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: "Buffer both input and output as minimally as practical," to quote the manual. (Guess the name is a bit of a misnomer.) < 1377023443 842181 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it passes values greater than 1 to read I am disappoint < 1377023472 162889 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you will be disappoint, then. < 1377024678 743926 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377024725 150196 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1377024728 43915 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1377025075 403527 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377025144 678224 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377025321 52956 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://archive.org/stream/bitsavers_philipsbrorochure1971_11672553/P850_P855_P860_Brochure_1971#page/n1/mode/2up memory cycle time is down to 1.6 µsec. < 1377025370 901926 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: 840 nanoseconds!! < 1377025378 596467 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :up to 32000 16-bit words! < 1377025386 943798 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not one, but two fortran compilers < 1377025393 28472 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh old computers are great <3 < 1377025396 233403 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and two different one-pass assemblers < 1377025399 189913 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a program that draws the dragon curve < 1377025422 802008 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The dragon curve it drew is here: http://www.vandoorn.talktalk.net/Nathan's_Stuff/d.svg < 1377025442 508874 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What might be useful for some people is a Lisp variant which is designed for compiling into limited domain-specific virtual machines by programming their specification using that programming language itself; it would also include an interpreter to run directly and then compile whatever needs to compile, into a different VM. < 1377025464 434322 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I made one too! http://zem.fi/?logo=ldragon < 1377025501 530730 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your one is more animaty than mine < 1377025520 449701 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But mine is more detailed than yours < 1377025523 716923 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i'm not sure i can imagine a specification language for arbitrary machines. < 1377025534 3227 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You can replace "ldragon" with "ifsdragon" to get the IFS version. < 1377025557 926766 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1377025567 265715 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an IFS version of the dragon curve? < 1377025583 982423 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woooooooah... duuuuuuude... < 1377025585 28259 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yes. It's just two affine transformations. < 1377025615 137432 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[0.5 -0.5 0; 0.5 0.5 0] and [-0.5 -0.5 1; 0.5 -0.5 0]. < 1377025628 706869 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that reminds me I hacked a javascript IFS generator some time ago. it crashed firefox in a rather spectacular manner. < 1377025666 378120 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : There is a dragon curve in TeX, too. < 1377025700 938489 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i guess you could do verilog or something, that's probably not what you have in mind though, and you've already complained about things you've wanted in verilog. < 1377025728 344257 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum. I have an unknown «.sln» file in a temp folder somewhere. what the fungot could it be. < 1377025728 934999 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: madam president, mr salafranca, i understood your excellent report on which everyone agrees is needed at the end of the british government and of suppliers of internet products. they are now forced to recognize that, in drawing up my report. < 1377025767 725654 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The end of the British government? Sounds dramatic. < 1377025791 741462 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a Visual Studio Solution file??? Sounds foreboding. < 1377025805 727370 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(seriously, what the hell am I doing with that.) < 1377025824 118571 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.alislam.org/books/truth/british.html Well < 1377025831 659333 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone here who uses Visual Studio? < 1377025870 411825 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike : An idea is, the program will be written in this Lisp variant, which has the codes to specify translation into a simpler VM, such as checking if it is adding, dividing, etc, and then also features specific to the target VM. < 1377025905 423861 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont unerstand. < 1377025947 525485 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Does Visual Studio 6 count? < 1377025969 484288 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea. want to check the file? < 1377025987 421789 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've always wanted to. < 1377026004 658747 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377026020 682539 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377026040 401650 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Version 6 didn't have .sln files, though; it's from the versions numbered 20xx, I think.) < 1377026055 705166 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. oh well, here goes the link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xif4owzeba45a41/electro.sln < 1377026094 328229 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless they've changed things around, that's not a Visual Studio solution file. < 1377026111 465656 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It at least used to be a text-based format. < 1377026122 939235 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :See http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb165951(v=vs.90).aspx for a VS2008 example, for example. < 1377026196 187750 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the file utility only says that it's data. < 1377026201 49312 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I don't really entirely know either. What I mean though is you have some function which reads some intermediate instructions (it might even read itself!) and then compiles it as a add instruction, branch instruction, etc, into a bytecode buffer, which might be used by a secondary optimizer and various other things, pass that result to another function to build the executable file for the VM. < 1377026236 38270 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so just providing a standard VM to assemble from. Is that like LLVM? < 1377026254 637621 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I suppose a little bit like it, but not really a lot like it. < 1377026264 133611 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :helpful < 1377026303 614327 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you're particularly hthian today, if I may say so. < 1377026333 976325 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It's a sound file. < 1377026344 152724 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For one thing LLVM is for more powerful computers, not domain-specific VM, and lacks some other features; it also has some features which are too strong, and doesn't generally write itself (it isn't Lisp). < 1377026352 474326 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: A not too shabby-sounding techno song, based on the first five seconds. < 1377026381 641319 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh. what did you use to play it? < 1377026387 825898 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I don't know how to determine the real sampling rate, but you can get a listenable version with sox -t raw -e signed-integer -b 16 -c 1 -r 16000 electro.sln something.wav. < 1377026398 329522 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be accidentally down- or upsampled a bit. < 1377026407 993045 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also mixed to single channel from two, or something. < 1377026441 432725 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asterisk has a linear-pcm file format called "SLINEAR" with a .sln extension. < 1377026446 514032 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AH! < 1377026451 544178 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a remnant from asterisk! < 1377026459 292818 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks fizzie! :D < 1377026483 484615 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I understand why I had an mp3 along with it. those were experiments with Asterisk. < 1377026512 601113 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377026518 987925 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How similar does the mp3 sound to that sox output? < 1377026532 737579 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme upload the mp3. < 1377026596 263923 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/Electronic_Attack_-_Salzmanufaktur_-_Minimental.mp3 < 1377026599 421928 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some machines I expect can be target can include Z-machine, Nintendo Family Computer, Glulx, Z80, and others. < 1377026615 800790 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of Z80 < 1377026621 420346 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe even TADS) < 1377026638 590783 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and MegaZeux Robotic bytecode) < 1377026640 872998 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having trouble connecting my TI84+ with my laptop with debian on it < 1377026656 885498 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :TiLP doesn't seem to detect it < 1377026696 218998 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Seems that it should've been 8 kHz, which I suppose makes more sense in a telephony context. (Though not *that* much more sense! We live in the age of AMR-WB and all.) < 1377026846 939855 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, maybe in my FPGA class i could try out some fucked up processor architectures, like tree-based < 1377026895 721237 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Not to mention Opus. < 1377026926 716807 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: any suggestions for fucked up architectures? < 1377026926 861433 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But alas, 8kHz 8 bit mu-law will be here forever. < 1377026941 711059 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny fact: "typical" pitch for a male speaker (around 100 Hz) is not part of the frequency spectrum carried by a regular telephone line (300 to 3400 Hz), yet people don't perceive a notable difference in the pitch of a speaker over the phone. < 1377026942 557226 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well, Asterisk is a little bit weird when it comes to sampling rates. < 1377026961 259295 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: we don't? < 1377026962 426609 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I don't know. < 1377026970 340640 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That figure seems remarkably low. < 1377026974 476450 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: come on, you know all kinds of weird architectures. < 1377027009 868660 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :any suggestions for connecting my ti device :(? < 1377027025 648348 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Well, I mean, you can say it sounds vaguely "low-quality", but that's about all. (Because the harmonics are all in the same place.) < 1377027028 508277 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Look in esolang wiki; some things I have written about and some you can see in other pages I have linked to < 1377027034 664916 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Which figure? < 1377027034 957891 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: /dev/ttyUSB0 like a manly man? < 1377027046 681565 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, a whole wiki for weird computer stuff. why didn't i think of that! < 1377027047 752821 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: 100 Hz. < 1377027053 334761 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(seriously thanks i actually wasn't) < 1377027067 86970 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Well, maybe it's closer to 120 Hz, but it's somewhere around there. < 1377027102 332868 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, is it the missing... uh... whatever you call it. where you cut out the "main" (wrong word) tone but all the higher harmonics are there so people hear it illusionarily < 1377027114 392062 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :missing fundamental! < 1377027166 662919 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It's that sort of thing, right. < 1377027181 200948 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially when you consider that the *low* end of a tenor's range is 130 Hz. < 1377027189 259276 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's in the wikipedia article. "Most common telephones cannot reproduce sounds lower than 300 Hz, but a male voice has a fundamental frequency approximately 150 Hz. Because of the missing fundamental effect, male voices still sound male over the telephone.[20]" < 1377027202 531955 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Some of the things in esolang wiki are related to computer hardware, so that is the parts I meant. < 1377027208 77709 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you know, speaking is not singing. < 1377027208 917433 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1377027215 771154 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: right. i'll look, once i get my fpga < 1377027220 52296 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: would it help if I installed libusb < 1377027228 68461 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/004974.html has a graph where the range seems to be something like 80-140 Hz. < 1377027232 736780 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: No, but the singing pitches roughly correspond to speaking pitch. < 1377027254 958396 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's about finding a relationship between number of offspring and voice pitch.) < 1377027273 588718 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone who sings tenor will tend to speak at frequencies somewhere within the tenor range. < 1377027293 908777 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another idea I have is Z-machine interpreter in Verilog (or VHDL). < 1377027323 887948 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Stemple, et al., report a mean fundamental frequency for male voices of 106 Hz with a range from 77 Hz to 482 Hz. For female voices the mean was 193 Hz with a range from 137 Hz to 634 Hz. These averages were based on the production of a sustained vowel /a/." < 1377027390 131219 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION *was* aware that a significant amount of the variation in voices was not because of the fundamental frequency, though... < 1377027424 244535 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing on esolang wiki, though, is TOGA computer; I think it can be implemented using only a small number of 74xx series ICs. < 1377027430 931589 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never done any speaker identification stuff, and in speech recognition we try our very best to ignore all this speaker-dependent stuff. :p < 1377027459 906823 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :great, now i want to quantify my voice's timbre. < 1377027469 946329 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is the fundamental frequency, like, the lowest peak frequency in a spectrum chart? < 1377027474 154291 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that that's a sensible thing, i guess < 1377027512 857469 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You can probably use Praat to start with -- http://www.fon.hum.uva.nl/praat/ -- it's very popular, esp. among the more human-oriented folks. < 1377027516 907582 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Typically. It's also the one of highest amplitude in a spectrum chart. < 1377027530 264543 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: when you perceive a pitch what you're actually hearing is some frequency (the fundamental) along with higher "overtones" at integer multiples of the fundamental frequency. so if you talk at 200 Hz, there are overtones at 400, 600, bla bla. < 1377027539 956172 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pulls up the audacity spectrum plotter thing and tries it on her voice recordings from before < 1377027540 846854 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the ICs is a programmable binary counter. < 1377027543 505865 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION finds an "a" < 1377027554 919739 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a real phoneme!!! < 1377027560 585520 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :231hz, 459hz, 701hz, 947hz ... < 1377027572 856319 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's pretty near the mean < 1377027579 480797 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: You might want to invest in a piece of software that can generate a spectrogram, things are very much clearer when you get some time dimensions in there. < 1377027592 949825 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sox can. :) < 1377027597 102082 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(At least last I looked, Audacity just computes a spectrum from a selected snippet.) < 1377027600 597474 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: “a” is not a phoneme? < 1377027607 236246 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's a letter. < 1377027607 449633 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I just selected a medium-pitch vowel sound XD < 1377027622 833545 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I think it was a schwa. < 1377027630 323970 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got a decent bit of use out of it when I was writing a square wave generator for no good reason. < 1377027633 673204 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: If you plot a spectrogram, you can see the formant tracks with some clarity. < 1377027657 128540 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit what's a formant < 1377027672 849289 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: They're the resonances of the whatsitcalled, the tube. < 1377027681 804724 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1377027686 521284 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was particularly silly, too. Additive synthesis and dither. < 1377027692 82845 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: significative peaks that uniquely define a sound. < 1377027693 967671 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no samantus you may fucking not < 1377027694 158959 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Samantus you may fucking not < 1377027696 28183 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1377027699 421087 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha every time < 1377027701 659835 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you man < 1377027704 791242 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Vocal tract! That. < 1377027709 491352 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: me? < 1377027713 903868 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: flblblblblbl. < 1377027714 48376 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: If function < 1377027714 345032 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh like part of the anatomy < 1377027717 817021 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: try saying "wat" < 1377027728 345270 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION says «ouatte» < 1377027731 491837 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It gets modelled as a variable-diameter cylinder all the time. < 1377027734 504993 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, jjust wat by itself < 1377027742 273116 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1377027776 605409 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. I did say wat. maybe with a slight French accent, but wat. < 1377027783 827848 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just itself on a line. < 1377027785 818809 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1377027796 152723 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1377027798 852849 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oic. < 1377027802 571713 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you. < 1377027817 303671 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: go fungot yourself. < 1377027817 448448 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Go fungot yourself < 1377027818 56476 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: we all want to see that our issues are given the opportunity of presenting to you the message that we are one of the points of difference between parliament's committee on the environment, public health and consumer policy are not great in monetary terms to the importance of the issue we are now drafting a european union rule and making it possible for us to do. < 1377027830 69657 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1377027831 872106 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style irc < 1377027832 16893 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: irc (IRC logs of freenode/#esoteric, freenode/#scheme and ircnet/#douglasadams) < 1377027840 927687 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The europarl is a bit too noisy for permanent use. < 1377027844 564245 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You must understand that samantus is still in a young phase of his life. He must learn a lot. < 1377027844 708946 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: A young phase of his life he must learn a great french diplomat used to be accompanied by an exhaustive study the council could not amend the social partners the us should pause and reflect on the co < 1377027866 177668 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd conversation to have on irc < 1377027867 385481 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: has it reached the “no” phase yet? < 1377027874 947827 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: nothing is odd on IRC. hth. < 1377027876 521970 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: behold the damage thou hast done! (or rather your bot) < 1377027893 956218 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Shame on you. < 1377027894 304144 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i understand that far < 1377027897 732181 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well now i'm realizing i've never really looked into the anatomy of speech despite hearing about it :V < 1377027915 339017 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"there are, like, cords??" -- me < 1377027923 404734 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: Willst thou draw near the nature of the gods? Draw near them then, in being merciful. < 1377027923 549394 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: The nature of this could now be effectively carried by a regular telephone line 300 to 3400 hz yet people dont perceive a pitch what youre actually hearing is some frequency the fundamental frequency so if you talk at 200 hz there are some other lambdabot operators on channel too < 1377027943 894772 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1377027993 390800 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a good one < 1377027996 232332 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, reminds me, you know this is up now: http://archive.org/details/bstj-archives < 1377027999 378735 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm proud of you samantus < 1377027999 523388 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Proud of you samantus < 1377028015 867901 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, now I'm no longer proud of you. Stupid samantus. < 1377028016 12569 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: No longer proud of you makes use of funds for objectiv < 1377028026 209924 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I did not know that was up. < 1377028060 663977 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus < 1377028060 808768 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: According also < 1377028061 460814 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well now you do. i don't know if it has anything in there that's relevant to you but whatever. < 1377028073 123016 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: Please tell me something I didn't know. < 1377028073 267549 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Please tell me something i didnt ask you i told you do < 1377028082 646461 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I might have cited a BSTJ paper somewhere, there's a lot of "first published there" stuff. < 1377028110 377764 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite a lot of it is of course bit more telecoms than what I do. < 1377028126 850688 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote telecom < 1377028128 188936 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1003) <boily> I hate telecom abbreviations I hate telecom abbreviations good morning all I hate telecom abbreviations. < 1377028191 235882 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our colleagues from one floor down have been dabbling with it more, doing things like bandwidth extension. (It's when you have speech gone through something horrible like narrowband AMR, and then you invent spectral content for the >4 kHz band out of whole cloth so that it sounds better. < 1377028228 240578 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Possibly also the low end.) < 1377028251 423678 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one floor down here is an architect company named «Gross Kaplin Coviensky», abbreviated to «GKC». < 1377028269 574767 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the kind of thing where you need to do a lot of subjective experiments, because optimizing for "sounds good" is kind of hard to objectively measure. < 1377028272 261088 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in French, the letters are homophonous to «j'ai cassé», which means “I broke”. he he he :D < 1377028288 141857 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They've got oodles and oodles of metrics that correlate more and less with subjective test results.) < 1377028372 113035 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1377028486 1904 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: Why isn't the TI device ready? < 1377028486 184088 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: The ti device < 1377028493 564738 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, samantus isn't helpful < 1377028493 709351 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Isnt helpful < 1377028495 208504 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377028523 32560 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: badger badger badger badger samantus samantus! < 1377028523 177205 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger samantus samantus < 1377028527 304817 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1377028529 373299 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: Helpful. < 1377028529 517916 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Over tell < 1377028574 285835 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: I like your bot. the only thing it's missing right now is a good “Error(127)”. < 1377028617 512121 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: try the infinite loop :p < 1377028635 346383 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]]whois "boily"; < 1377028635 491003 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> boily is a VERY annoying person/bot (this does not apply to boily/AnotherTest) < 1377028636 568713 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `boily'Not in scope: `is' < 1377028636 713430 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1377028636 713610 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : ... < 1377028643 879793 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it likes you! < 1377028669 658262 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1377028709 673085 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]]let aaah = add mul "a" 10 mul "h" 5; < 1377028716 189500 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]]aaah < 1377028722 388626 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]]aaah; < 1377028722 532652 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> aaaaaaaaaahhhhh < 1377028723 326260 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `aaaaaaaaaahhhhh' < 1377028748 888145 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric : ]] hm < 1377029263 608467 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how sox's -w argument was changed to -2, and now it's -b 16. They just can't make up their minds. < 1377029278 691335 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(From "word" to "two bytes" to "bits: 16".) < 1377029278 976161 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, I managed to connect with my calculator, somehow < 1377029308 84458 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 259 seconds < 1377029375 939607 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1377030478 423296 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how intel ruined the word "word" < 1377030518 995881 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :double quadword! < 1377030525 167867 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :double double quadword! < 1377030539 504802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup :) < 1377030639 58683 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Octoword. < 1377030670 679806 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :punpcklqdq! < 1377030701 174513 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nasm has db, dw, dd, dq, do and dy for 8, 16, 32, 64, 128 and 256 bit data definition pseudo-ops. < 1377030730 205223 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Byte, word, dword, qword, octoword and... well, ymm-register-word.) < 1377030738 503705 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And of course also dt for "tenbyte".) < 1377030750 404001 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :d...y? < 1377030759 39657 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@_@ < 1377030765 452236 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I' < 1377030770 780699 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never used do and dy, I guess < 1377030821 724165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't accept numeric constants, the manual says. < 1377030833 888308 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't terribly forthcoming as to what they *do* accept. Strings, I suppose. < 1377030845 277227 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me of the thing I experimented with a bit back, where like, I think nasm didn't support bigints internally, but yasm did? < 1377030860 775463 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like, you could write arbitrary precision arithmetic in your code and yasm wouldn't break but nasm would overflow < 1377030896 463046 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377030897 296312 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's why it can't do 128-bit constants, because they're larger than the internal integer representation? < 1377030909 727627 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds very possible. < 1377030960 880322 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says that you can give a floating-point constant to do. < 1377030969 77023 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that'd be 64-bit? < 1377030973 504771 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, do? @_@ < 1377030974 24480 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's 128 bits. < 1377030977 445828 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... 128-bit... floats? < 1377030994 604371 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an IEEE standard for it. < 1377030994 787977 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could understand that with dt I guess < 1377031001 484355 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but like, do any of the CPUs it does support it? @_@ < 1377031009 248244 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that I know. < 1377031020 387842 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know if that's the kind of float it does if you do a do. < 1377031047 515353 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"do 1.e+4000 ; IEEE 754r quad precision" < 1377031049 726520 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently so. < 1377031052 430678 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Native support of 128-bit floats is defined in SPARC V8[22] and V9[23] architectures (e.g. there are 16 quad-precision registers %q0, %q4, ...), but no SPARC CPU implements quad-precision operations in hardware." < 1377031076 712906 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :NASM wouldn't target SPARC anyway. < 1377031097 547595 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess so < 1377031108 727837 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :software emulation < 1377031131 652315 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck punpcklqdq < 1377031131 834905 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377031141 882002 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For that, possibly "native" support for double-double constants would be better. < 1377031156 993734 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not quite as good as quadruple-precision, of course. < 1377031159 265508 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1377031392 851930 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck Fiora < 1377031393 60654 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Fiora is a river in northern Lazio and southern Tuscany, which springs from the southern flank of the Monte Amiata, near Santa Fiora. < 1377031426 785397 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's ~duck do? < 1377031478 611667 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asks a random duck in a park. < 1377031489 43276 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're quite knowledgeable about the world. < 1377031565 302668 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oftentimes, the duck down know the fungot out of a subject, but then you neveriver know. < 1377031566 136080 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it amuses me that he asked a windows admin to send him the output of merge is the remaining case that returns 1? < 1377031571 450864 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/down/don't/ < 1377031588 919873 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: well, I'm having a context problem. < 1377031589 533669 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: they don't know. we can't answer that for him. i was supposed to be snowing anymore, anyway. < 1377031639 735089 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: not for a few months yet, but don't worry, we'll get snowed in as usual. 'tis Montréal after all... < 1377031640 244005 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i wait, maybe it will go away) it's 28 degrees. my motherboard says it will always work. < 1377031677 2284 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377031693 82476 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1377031693 589829 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 202000Z 22013G19KT 15SM FEW045 SCT090 SCT180 BKN240 28/18 A3001 RMK CU1AC2AC1CI2 AC TR SLP161 DENSITY ALT 1500FT < 1377031699 727907 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :28 degrees indeed. < 1377031752 974714 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a different Z-machine which is closer to Infocom's original design, and isn't always compatible with the modern one. A suggestion, which I think is a good idea, is to change the filename extension. Do you have any better ideas what to change it to? < 1377031819 113966 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1377031821 67194 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 202020Z 24002KT CAVOK 15/13 Q1019 NOSIG < 1377031849 356711 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You're not in Canada. < 1377031849 832383 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: just do something like ( defmacro fnord ( arglist &body body) fnord ( pendown ( fnord fnord < 1377031855 941712 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I'll do that. < 1377031876 216338 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it annoys me that there are like no decent open-world games for linux < 1377031894 783880 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Write some if you like to do so. < 1377031904 96949 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe use some that are written on some VM. < 1377031929 954856 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Ultima VII with exult?-) < 1377032069 331273 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Don't Starve an open world game? < 1377032073 958899 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's on Linux, I think < 1377032104 236883 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of open world game do you want? < 1377032105 442985 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, X3 is on Linux too, huh < 1377032110 468837 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay that defintely has to count < 1377032120 853198 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: what do you know that your bot ain't in Canada? everything points to it being somewhat near here. < 1377032126 111629 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Fiora/fizzie/ < 1377032146 15451 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Don't Starve is in [Category:Open world video games] in Wikipedia, so I guess it must be. < 1377032161 443781 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, X3 sounds grindy < 1377032163 940836 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377032175 987074 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i guess my main problem here is i want to play tes, and nobody makes tes except bethesda) < 1377032185 159995 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it was grindy at all? < 1377032225 621169 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean like there's a lot of other things to maybe dislike about it if they're not your thing, but like. not grindy, I guess? < 1377032226 579241 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of things did you want in open world game though, specifically? < 1377032235 733372 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well essentially it sounds like elite, and elite and tes aren't quite the same genre imo < 1377032329 448082 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah, I mean, they're really different? but they're both open world ^^; < 1377032555 31610 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1377032564 347617 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might play morrowind on wine but god it's so clunky < 1377032672 646285 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been thinking of buying that Skyrim thing when the discount gets to >= 50%. (Maybe next Steam Christmas sale.) < 1377032867 186086 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377032872 46749 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :BAON < 1377032873 478150 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1377032878 499827 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, Emilie < 1377032882 516294 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Emilie, boily < 1377032889 351876 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, to be honest... < 1377032899 129320 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric: This is Emilie < 1377032902 625705 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Treat her well =P < 1377032927 847298 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice to meet you all! (^_^) < 1377032943 655159 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaand you guessed it: Bus time < 1377032958 173429 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello Emilie < 1377032966 598037 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brace yourself, a `welcome is coming < 1377032970 811505 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1377032973 539893 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Emilie < 1377032976 198542 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​14Emilie: Welcome to th06e international hub fo05r 10esot04eric05 programming l12a03nguage design and13 02depl05oy13me11nt! For mo14r05e information, check out our wiki: http13://es05olangs.org/wiki/Ma10in_03P03a05ge.14 (03Fo10r 02th03e othe14r kind of es12oterica, t09ry 06#esoteric on 06irc.dal.net.) < 1377033043 354358 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus christ < 1377033045 644166 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is Emilie even < 1377033115 678562 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you're the one who asked me the question, right? < 1377033132 411832 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I just read the jsvine survey and your question is in it < 1377033133 527175 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1377033138 486648 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found that particularly suspicious < 1377033277 762324 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember who started it < 1377033289 167087 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr kmc and Fiora being involved < 1377033308 183830 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I do remember boily asking Fiora her body weight < 1377033473 632538 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not involved in boily's weird plan < 1377033482 364231 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except I guess in that I'm one of the dozens of people he asked? < 1377033534 617970 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: There's nothing wrong with boily's plän < 1377033554 360780 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except the crazy umlauts maybe < 1377033577 744309 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yeah, apart from thöse =P < 1377033580 167842 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why is the question in jsvine's survey? < 1377033591 294307 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Science? < 1377033594 431412 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stalking? I don't know < 1377033603 968479 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finding the CoM of #esoteric < 1377033626 768241 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1377033675 844389 :Roujo|Android!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1377033696 320394 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1377033717 142403 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong butan >_> < 1377033785 703119 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time I have a meeting and/or a drawing session on a whiteboard, people start spewing conspiracies and interesting stuff. < 1377033817 654023 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should get into more meetings, then < 1377033830 895561 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :More fun for the rest of us < 1377033836 915950 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: I don't have any sisters, not even Emilies, I indeed am the one who asks the The Question, Fiora is part of the plan, the umlauts are not crazy, and when does the II come out? < 1377033850 986839 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the II? < 1377033856 448139 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trémas4ever < 1377033858 345992 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a summary that's more questions < 1377033865 822086 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo_: pfshaw. humbug. nonsense. and you are evil for having brought forth my brother in this Chann̈el. < 1377033872 136133 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: the Infamous Interview. < 1377033883 269219 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: well, I got distracted halfway. < 1377033896 288510 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't put a tréma on a consonant :( < 1377033904 123273 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: yes I can. < 1377033921 496624 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: He had to sëe the wonder of esolanğ < 1377033925 78203 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I already have your Relevant Information, so there's no need to Question you again. < 1377033936 785805 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds weirder every time you mention it ;_; < 1377033954 268346 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not weird, it's even in alphabetical order and nicely formatted! < 1377033975 689507 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neat and weird aren't mutually exclusive < 1377034029 772019 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the next 5 minutes: http://pastebin.ca/2434934 < 1377034054 870546 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you see, nothing weird going on! < 1377034062 262211 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except FreeFull. he is weird.) < 1377034072 752084 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some are in lbs and some in kg < 1377034077 444028 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's wrong < 1377034090 718924 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some are in megaluns. that's not even wrong. < 1377034120 739697 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's um. a strange list < 1377034142 497588 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone's got your relevant information now Fiora < 1377034149 252562 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1377034167 660100 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives a penguin plushie to Fiora < 1377034197 926302 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? relevant info < 1377034199 706673 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :The large-eyed mouse lemur is a nocturnal tree-dweller. < 1377034295 151670 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason "tree-dweller" evokes some kind of mole digging inside a tree < 1377034299 691210 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :%echo @tell boily Where's *my* relevant info? =/ < 1377034299 835873 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily Where's *my* relevant info? =/ < 1377034299 980515 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377034323 830703 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Emilie's a computer program? < 1377034325 256912 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I had an occasion to step on a weightometer the other day, and even though I've forgotten what the exact result was, you could revise my number to 75 in the same units and it'd be closer by some amount. < 1377034366 550771 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had an occasion too but I carefully avoided it from happening < 1377034371 252293 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Yeah, she's my bot. That I tend to anthropomorphize < 1377034386 482474 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in Turing-testify? < 1377034402 999590 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish < 1377034415 892186 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo "That information is stored in an unnamed metal cabinet in one of the top floors of an obscure administrative building with a number that you probably never heard of." > wisdom/"Roujo's relevant info" < 1377034417 332529 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"That information is stored in an unnamed metal cabinet in one of the top floors of an obscure administrative building with a number that you probably never heard of." > wisdom/"Roujo's relevant info" < 1377034421 407662 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just talk about her as if she was an actual person < 1377034423 979938 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "That information is stored in an unnamed metal cabinet in one of the top floors of an obscure administrative building with a number that you probably never heard of." > wisdom/"Roujo's relevant info" < 1377034427 611377 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377034441 321008 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :%help < 1377034441 529565 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In hope that she'll take the hint and be one eventually < 1377034443 335129 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck weightometer < 1377034443 567216 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377034475 195087 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Roujo's relevant info < 1377034476 592116 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo's relevant info? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377034476 983213 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                            | < 1377034477 199093 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo_, it's like quote 546 < 1377034477 344094 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                          o/`¯º < 1377034484 616181 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Lowercasing of search terms strikes again ^ < 1377034486 601646 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only not weaboo, or lesbian < 1377034486 746036 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, %help is next on the todo list < 1377034493 971552 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: noooooooooo! < 1377034512 567480 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's quote 546? < 1377034514 7167 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? roujo's relevant info < 1377034515 632381 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :roujo's relevant info? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377034515 963006 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                            | < 1377034516 171614 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                          º¯`\o < 1377034540 242713 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thwarps HackEgo with a flamboyant hamburger and a side of fries. < 1377034567 3623 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 546 < 1377034568 258211 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :546) <Phantom_Hoover> It's like Pygmalion and Galatea but more weeaboo. <Phantom_Hoover> Also lesbian. < 1377034584 257389 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck weeaboo < 1377034584 594942 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Perry Bible Fellowship is a newspaper comic strip and webcomic by Nicholas Gurewitch. < 1377034590 39240 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. < 1377034591 914268 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Okay =P < 1377034613 195417 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck tréma < 1377034613 419796 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377034617 34489 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pfff < 1377034644 88788 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck diaeresis < 1377034644 557464 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :diaeresis definition: a mark placed over a vowel to indicate that the vowel is pronounced in a separate syllable (as in '''nave''' or '''Bront''')  compare umlaut. < 1377034653 368213 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooohhh < 1377034655 535370 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1377034777 715393 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: How weird am I? < 1377034789 951500 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1377034794 54940 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a tréma < 1377034811 568594 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I'd say around 1.5 sigmas over the global average. < 1377034825 560216 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't necessarily need a tréma to get a diaeresis < 1377034854 747348 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. you know. sometimes, there are terms that are dramaticker, but untruthinessial. < 1377034867 423460 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why doesn't metasepia do UTF-8? < 1377034927 294725 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does. < 1377034941 587556 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fsvo of utf.) < 1377034959 363968 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? UTF-8 < 1377034961 260462 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-8? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377034961 641870 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1377034961 843506 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          o/`¯º < 1377034978 125050 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you keep writing tréma < 1377034985 318764 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anything it should be trêma < 1377034995 519317 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because tréma is best éma < 1377035007 184602 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: But that diaeresis definition wasn't UTF-8 < 1377035040 516855 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :%roll 5d6+7 < 1377035040 699786 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo_: Results of 5d6+7: 19 < 1377035041 689610 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo_: Rolls: 4, 3, 1, 2, 2 < 1377035074 591083 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :%slap boily < 1377035074 735743 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slaps boily around with a large trout. < 1377035077 805125 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-8 is a character encoding for numbers up to 36-bits, and which is compatible with principle of extended ASCII. The character set normally used with UTF-8 is Unicode, which does not use all 36-bits, though. < 1377035104 103787 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B02DEDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0.1/20130814063812] < 1377035106 583960 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slaps Emilie around with a boiled boily  < 1377035128 732967 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I didn't know UTF-8 could be used with non-unicode, though it makes sense < 1377035141 958718 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who the shit is trout < 1377035148 720631 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: we have talked before < 1377035153 920842 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: If you go by the definition of "UTF-8" in the latest RFC or the Unicode 6.0 standard, it does not go up to more than 0x10ffff. < 1377035164 219195 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am pretty damned confused as well < 1377035174 970689 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, variable! < 1377035185 14903 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when did you have a freebsd cloak < 1377035191 410993 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: UTF-8 does; Unicode does not go higher than 0x10FFFF though (since "UTF-8" normally means it is encoding Unicode, it won't go higher than 0x10FFFF either). < 1377035204 105761 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: for a few years < 1377035211 971526 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~dice 6 5 < 1377035212 197923 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 5 6 6 3 --- Sum = 23 < 1377035223 492246 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :I idle a lot here but don't have a chance to contribute much :( < 1377035223 756463 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: No, UTF-8 does not, according to the current standard definitions of it. < 1377035299 82552 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, by those definition it is that by "UTF-8" they mean "UTF-8/Unicode", which is the normal meaning anyways; I am talking about "UTF-8" in general (which doesn't really have a better name) < 1377035365 449982 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, the UTF-8 integer coding scheme, not the character encoding. :) < 1377035379 927701 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, I suppose so. < 1377035381 63931 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly a name should be invented, then. < 1377035410 94761 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :trout: if you want to contribute, just go with the flow. < 1377035411 104676 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a fairly decent integer code scheme. < 1377035418 467293 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :RealUTF-8 < 1377035422 989508 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: its more about amount of time < 1377035427 931490 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have for IRC :) < 1377035471 378961 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo_: with buffering! < 1377035510 422708 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Mucho buffering < 1377035568 15247 :nucular!~nucular_@89.204.137.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377035607 532301 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hey, I wrote some Rust code today ... but I don't think I quite understand how pointers work < 1377035618 789624 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome nucular < 1377035620 912523 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13nucula09r:12 Welco02me09 to the international h13ub for09 esoteri05c p12rogramming 13l13an06guage desi11gn 13and depl04oy10ment! For mor09e14 i02nformatio08n08,06 check out our wiki: http://esolangs.10org/02wik11i/Ma04in_Page02. (For th08e other kind of esote10r03ica, t14ry13 #14esoteric on i10rc.dal06.net.) < 1377035815 929012 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377035868 976414 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: oh, cool! what does your rust code do? < 1377035878 833002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what would you like to know about pointers? < 1377035980 235536 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it "simulates" a piece of the virtual memory system (like, the data structures that describe mappings and stuff) of my kernel < 1377036003 636002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1377036437 618872 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not quite sure what I'd like to know about pointers, I just generally seem to be getting the wrong kind, amount or combination of pointedness and mutability a lot < 1377036447 307016 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1377036460 447861 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, are you guys aware of a Brainfuck implementation in Postscript? I can't seem to find any via google < 1377036476 777606 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should write one < 1377036484 921238 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good idea < 1377036496 363667 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing to keep in mind is that ~-boxes inherit mutability from their owner < 1377036523 235226 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically there are "ownership trees" where the root is either a local variable or an @ / @mut box < 1377036537 421960 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so there is let, let mut, @, @mut, but no such thing as ~ vs ~mut < 1377036636 355885 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377036690 161550 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens when we modify peano's axioms so that instead of each natural number having one successor, it has two? < 1377036750 194613 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are also natural numbers? < 1377036836 526231 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you mean we have 0 \isin N, S(x) \isin N iff x \isin N, T(x) \isin N \iff x \isin N, S(x) != T(x), S(x) = S(y) iff x = y, T(x) = T(y) iff x = y? < 1377036836 707895 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I can't use the same name for them as normal natural numbers because it will get confusing < 1377036871 98242 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: https://bitbucket.org/MrDubya/bfps < 1377036902 590528 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh. Thank you < 1377036933 965906 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that looks like what I envisioned < 1377037017 982612 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: There's another one that I can't seem to be able to extract a link to, which is really weird. < 1377037040 22368 :nucular!~nucular_@89.204.137.121 QUIT :Quit: *.net *.[DATA EXPUNGED] < 1377037051 137738 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: how do you define addition? < 1377037051 963826 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well each 'number' in the new system is like a binary number made of S and T < 1377037056 638660 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could interpret T as predecessor, I think. < 1377037067 508181 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since those axioms don't contradict S(T(x)) = T(S(x)) = x, I think? < 1377037072 7484 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so get the integers. < 1377037097 219310 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i said S(anything) isn't T(anything) but if you lost that you could recover integers. < 1377037098 966738 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130820-bf.ps -- it runs 99bob. < 1377037102 942338 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you concatonate them, so A becomes the starting point of B (it's not commutative) < 1377037118 672782 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: T(x) isn't S(x) though < 1377037126 484547 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's okay for S(T(x)) = T(S(x)) < 1377037127 240449 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: (Both located by the high-tech process of Googling for ["bf.ps" brainfuck].) < 1377037129 683617 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i guess i phrased it badly < 1377037135 585542 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :n+1 =/= n-1 < 1377037144 396338 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant S(x) != T(y) < 1377037152 2679 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :implicit foralls ftw < 1377037192 688261 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do that you just get pairs without any particular equivalence predicate i guess. < 1377037219 786095 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you could define one predicate and get integers, and a different one and get positive rationals, bla bla. < 1377037232 542724 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Fair. I tried '"postscript" brainfuck' and similar queries, which didn't work as well < 1377037243 293725 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, no. i guess S . T and T . S aren't the same right < 1377037254 708855 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... more like what kmc said. < 1377037278 234052 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah imma call that good. < 1377037281 835579 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you make S and T totally disjoint then you're just asking about data Peayes = Z | S Peayes | T Peayes < 1377037291 57808 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION expert at reduction to solved problems < 1377037292 681198 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's what i meant < 1377037296 381812 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is binary < 1377037306 579948 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta give me a minute to go through the thinking!!! < 1377037306 724807 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :describing types as axioms is weird. < 1377037321 814001 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :describing axioms as types is weird. describing pies as cakes is weird < 1377037336 487980 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: could you reduce tonight's bike route? I have to go to a new place. < 1377037346 626215 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm < 1377037385 80186 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask Bike < 1377037462 550350 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Peamaybe : Type where { Z : Peamaybe; S : Peamaybe -> Peamaybe; T : Peamaybe -> Peamaybe; S_T : forall x, S (T x) = x; T_S : forall x, T (S x) = x } -- hooray for HITs? < 1377037500 670276 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I'm going to 951 Rachel Est from 7275 St-Urbain. I prefer cycling ways, but would like to avoid potholes as my back hurts. the moon is full, and you can't leave the wolf with the cabbage, as the relative humidity is still quite high. < 1377037501 16600 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-118-53.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377037502 441269 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :high intense types < 1377037516 252752 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: have you run this through coq < 1377037548 218541 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I need my brain free of type systems as I'm working on projects that require Python. < 1377037829 634218 :Roujo_!~AndChat15@out-pq-218.wireless.telus.com QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1377037869 722902 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I"m defining addition as A + 0 = A, A + S(B) = S( A + B), A + T(B) = T( A + B) < 1377037873 679580 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377037960 92238 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then S(A) + T(B) = S(A + T(B)) = S(T(A + B))and = T(B + S(A)) = T(S(A + B)) < 1377037978 656533 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks to be you!! < 1377038078 574521 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your first step S(A) + T(B) = S(A + T(B)) < 1377038085 999123 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how you got it < 1377038096 638603 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, assuming addition is commutative. < 1377038110 423917 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does T stand for tuccession? < 1377038114 55447 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why peano? say peayes to succ-ess! < 1377038114 200100 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a nice thing for addition to be, imo < 1377038122 570972 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott already did that joke man < 1377038130 168130 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuckyou elliott < 1377038140 758414 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rude < 1377038144 780349 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said that it can't be commutitive < 1377038148 71939 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it as cornily phrased as mine? < 1377038162 510866 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i thought you meant S and T didn't commute < 1377038164 904207 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I'm not one to hold grudges. *slinkers away* < 1377038166 998572 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: "Peamaybe" < 1377038177 437211 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :subtle right < 1377038178 579245 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did Peayes too < 1377038182 549326 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you < 1377038188 956699 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:21:21 <elliott> if you make S and T totally disjoint then you're just asking about data Peayes = Z | S Peayes | T Peayes < 1377038189 112134 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I lept off of that. Hm, you did do peayes? < 1377038189 263687 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: are you sure that's enough for a definition? < 1377038191 794316 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you did < 1377038202 255652 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: No I don't think it is < 1377038217 516810 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alas. I did have the succ joke, at least. < 1377038227 107470 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote succ < 1377038228 436438 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :831) <olsner> we have PR? <oerjan> the good news is we have PR. the bad news is we borrowed haskell's motto for it. [...] <oerjan> [...] "avoid success at all costs" \ 1043) <ais523> elliott: it's not so much that I've failed, just that I have not yet succeeded < 1377038239 831607 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have PR??? < 1377038247 452143 :`0x00!~null@unaffiliated/0x00/x-2550036 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377038261 509816 :`0x00!~null@unaffiliated/0x00/x-2550036 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION licks ion up and down the middlepart. < 1377038265 638818 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :elliott > 1377038265 974406 NAMES :#esoteric < 1377038274 854545 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :*!*null@unaffiliated/0x00/x-2550036 > 1377038274 870930 NAMES :#esoteric < 1377038274 999217 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric `0x00 :ban evasion and creepiness, go away < 1377038286 320826 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :$a:`0x00 > 1377038286 337936 NAMES :#esoteric < 1377038287 83297 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that went well < 1377038297 183269 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :`0x00*!*@* > 1377038297 203027 NAMES :#esoteric < 1377038298 163659 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ō_Ō... < 1377038299 284591 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -o :elliott > 1377038299 302917 NAMES :#esoteric < 1377038303 977068 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree < 1377038331 92466 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sad if they got a cloak literally just to do that < 1377038354 243753 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lesson of the day: don't be a slimy retard. < 1377038372 592217 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/nick 0x00fe3188 < 1377038376 206260 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/mozilla/rust/blob/master/src/libstd/rt/util.rs#L72-L130 lolwut < 1377038380 401042 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't use "retard" as an insult plz < 1377038389 399101 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@_@ < 1377038390 399719 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even for people that are slimy < 1377038396 368312 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree with Bike < 1377038412 195787 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: um < 1377038416 49902 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/retard/jelly/ < 1377038430 378886 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good choice < 1377038430 609578 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: I check they are sufficient < 1377038440 868154 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, at least it's deterministic < 1377038443 872269 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a/s/ checked < 1377038456 260254 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, shit, i didn't recognize where it was from :( < 1377038465 671257 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: haha, re: rust < 1377038483 566456 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, it might also be a stretch to say that it's fair use. < 1377038490 275203 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the not-yet-expired longer passages. < 1377038492 271517 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :call of cthulu is pd by now isn't it < 1377038504 220870 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or... are some of those from other sources. i didn't check. < 1377038506 127110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1377038517 586812 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellœrjan. < 1377038520 300003 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, well, it's on wikisource < 1377038524 902623 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so close enough < 1377038534 474719 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally, a workable criterion for the public domain < 1377038539 664761 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically < 1377038553 218929 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan joins right after I ban a ban-evader...... suspicious...... < 1377038560 688594 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also includes an 8-word phrase from an English translation of a Japanese video game. < 1377038568 206456 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck it, anyway, lovecraft pretty much ignored copyright anyway < 1377038598 557076 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cackles conspiratorially < 1377038601 27493 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck にわとり < 1377038601 372648 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377038602 609428 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: and are you sure you couldn't get rid of the third condition? < 1377038604 683967 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This work is in the public domain in the United States because it was legally published within the United States (or the United Nations Headquarters in New York subject to Section 7 of the United States Headquarters Agreement) before 1964, and copyright was not renewed." ah, there we go < 1377038607 882766 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in are you sure it isn't redundant < 1377038610 193904 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1377038610 338638 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 7h 24m 22s ago: according to wiki's chart of diaphonemes to regional dialects, /poːlət/. < 1377038636 128612 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: yes < 1377038636 418167 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo we should have kept copyright renewal :\\ < 1377038645 865561 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second condition should be enough to reduce A+B to S(S(S(S(S(...A+0)))))) < 1377038646 596678 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ...yeah < 1377038651 597231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hwaly < 1377038659 225211 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: there is one clause for T() and one for S() < 1377038659 369759 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah what < 1377038665 147494 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I agree yo < 1377038665 941824 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1377038668 582740 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why you be such a fool < 1377038669 572211 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hwaly? < 1377038671 963314 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::((((( < 1377038682 721618 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was assuming S(T(x)) = T(S(x)) = x < 1377038690 697715 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(don't worry, it is endearing terminology) < 1377038697 983071 :Ana_V!~Anastasia@c-24-56-224-50.customer.broadstripe.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377038699 833854 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for all x except maybe 0) < 1377038709 398008 :Ana_V!~Anastasia@c-24-56-224-50.customer.broadstripe.net PART :#esoteric < 1377038716 768294 :beloved!~null@nobody.violates.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1377038724 979160 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome beloved < 1377038727 192741 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13beloved: We03l09come to the in05ter04nationa03l hub for 04e09soteric 12p07rogramming language 07d13esign 04and deploymen14t! For 08more04 info12r08mation, ch13eck out our w03iki: http14://e07solangs.org/wiki/Main_10Page. 09(For 10the 03other kind 13of esote13rica, 09try #es13oteric on irc.dal10.net.) < 1377038731 758751 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :beloved is `0x00. < 1377038733 258271 :beloved!~null@nobody.violates.us NICK :nan[0] < 1377038739 373009 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh. < 1377038739 678422 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. < 1377038746 826985 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I unrelcome somebody? < 1377038751 34792 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: If you assume that, it collapses into boringness < 1377038753 922591 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :same username and realname < 1377038776 71334 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1377038791 232925 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, are you sure you got A+B=B+A ? < 1377038803 395339 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you concatenate paths through a tree they don't commute < 1377038824 959673 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't the slightest idea what you mean < 1377038852 146917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: h+-oily as she is _properly_ pronounced (see logs hth) < 1377038858 134029 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nan[0]: do you have a good argument for not being `0x00 ban evading again? < 1377038865 612567 :nan[0]!~null@nobody.violates.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: huh? < 1377038871 509253 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good argument, imo < 1377038884 691004 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nan[0]: preferably one better than "huh?" :/ < 1377038885 923220 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :T() is the left child S() is the right child, so it makes a binary tree < 1377038891 633277 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: indeed. it's good when I'm well pronounced. < 1377038892 646783 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1377038893 997206 :nan[0]!~null@nobody.violates.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes. < 1377038903 407375 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't you name them L and R then < 1377038906 942382 :nan[0]!~null@nobody.violates.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION licks ion down the neck. down the back.  < 1377038909 781667 :nan[0]!~null@nobody.violates.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: good enough? < 1377038911 748841 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :elliott > 1377038911 771462 NAMES :#esoteric < 1377038914 423152 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :*!*null@*.violates.us > 1377038914 437299 NAMES :#esoteric < 1377038914 568134 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric nan[0] :yep < 1377038917 268166 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well bike chose the names, but yes < 1377038929 990797 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :nan[0]*!*@* > 1377038930 12326 NAMES :#esoteric < 1377038932 373699 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is getting boring. < 1377038933 335030 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hey, at least let us some time to grab popcorn :p < 1377038934 349331 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -o :elliott > 1377038934 372943 NAMES :#esoteric < 1377038937 748202 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's a number again? < 1377038944 444665 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1377038950 417853 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"so what's a number again?": the maths experience < 1377038953 102620 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: sorry about this guy < 1377038981 280768 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: you have to become one with nothing to understand natural reality. < 1377039000 465296 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: don't ask me I didn't do it -- principa discordia < 1377039006 459554 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you please start making sentences I can read boily < 1377039015 732533 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: tomorrow. < 1377039062 631058 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the pitcher's name? < 1377039098 512826 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: I read a few lines up S(T(x)) = x < 1377039112 680639 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: you outconfused me there. < 1377039121 398913 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that consistent with left son and right son? < 1377039129 322940 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/son/child < 1377039203 835593 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_ that would make modular arithmetic, who wrote it? < 1377039225 768744 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott I reckon < 1377039226 969195 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: who's on first; the pitcher is named tomorrow < 1377039242 667599 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: data Peamaybe : Type where { Z : Peamaybe; S : Peamaybe -> Peamaybe; T : Peamaybe -> Peamaybe; S_T : forall x, S (T x) = x; T_S : forall x, T (S x) = x } -- hooray for HITs? < 1377039272 108395 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's about ten different things with S and T people are talking about at this point < 1377039284 668337 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: I suspected a&c, but I missed the pitcher's part. < 1377039354 551408 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a fucking visionary elliott < 1377039398 717419 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: I was messing around to see if I could get anything interesting. The answer is probably not < 1377039435 731170 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no this thing about binary trees sounds fun < 1377039479 995427 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if A * S(B) = (A*B) + A < 1377039480 236391 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A * T(B) = (A*B) + A < 1377039495 620735 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Number" doesn't have a mathematical definition. < 1377039502 518919 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1377039516 770376 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought peano numbers WHERE one such definition < 1377039523 456701 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*were < 1377039525 754361 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is A*T(B) equal to A*B + A < 1377039526 319901 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :But things are generally considered numbers when they are similar in some way to the natural numbers or something. < 1377039546 988977 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: they're a definition of "natural number", but I don't think "number" is usually considered a synonym of "natural number". < 1377039567 91051 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a number is like "the member of the corps we're both talking about" < 1377039575 806489 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :give me 5 sec to translate corps to english < 1377039606 243351 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: I was seeing what happens I don't like calling that operation multiplication < 1377039610 408788 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck corps < 1377039611 145240 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :corps definition: an organized subdivision of the military establishment. < 1377039620 642693 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia gives me "division ring" < 1377039631 840485 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay maybe not what I meant < 1377039644 46344 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should take a math class someday < 1377039665 494980 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :math is for nerds imo < 1377039676 389296 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :math is for engineers imbo. < 1377039686 310593 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like the definition I gave because it multiplies the structure of one number by the magnitude of another. < 1377039702 641643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: the natural numbers are not a division ring (or field, which is what i thought corps/german Körper) meant < 1377039716 411086 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my boilypinion? < 1377039722 287627 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: that's the multiplication by a scalar < 1377039745 384150 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: now you need cross product or something < 1377039746 845440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly you can embed them in one. heck even the ordinals embed into the surreals. < 1377039760 784480 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and you see how B is just being used as a scalar < 1377039767 75936 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it was “in my better opinion”, but I like the pretentiousness of a boilypinion :D < 1377039776 493501 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods < 1377039791 115585 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: honestly besides groups and vector spaces I can't tell which are which any longer < 1377039802 946161 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :between rings fields ideals algebras etc < 1377039817 78568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-)+) < 1377039825 842920 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a smiley? < 1377039843 832485 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: this looks like an implement to shoot laser rays at obnoxious people. < 1377039846 717093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it means "move the ) to the right spot" < 1377039852 516554 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I probably won't for a long time because this fucking school doesn't have ANYTHING AT ALL else than computers < 1377039863 608471 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kinda sadass school is that < 1377039891 803403 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no languages, no maths, no physics, no nothing < 1377040004 850698 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: what about replacing every leaf of B with copies of A < 1377040006 382156 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1377040024 318703 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: not even monoids? i hear they're easy < 1377040034 286636 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never known what a monoid was < 1377040059 822934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1377040063 36474 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that one time when I was tired of not knowing and I looked up the definition on wikipedia and that was just one more definition and without further study it was just a boring definition so I forgot it < 1377040066 583211 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a thing with "addition" that's associative, basically. and addition has an identity. and probably another thing i'm forgetting. < 1377040093 266329 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see? just a thing < 1377040097 706475 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's one thing too much < 1377040098 473168 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah basically < 1377040105 121976 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know why i remember it < 1377040106 858919 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're just sets with operations < 1377040108 101330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: monoids are the thing which concatenated words / lists are the free object of hth < 1377040108 245993 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly shachaf?? < 1377040114 15234 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't we call them sets with operations < 1377040125 51370 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they're old. < 1377040157 266413 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“lists are the free objects of hth.” that is most disturbing. < 1377040163 110993 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :same reason you call 4 "four" but all 819198 gets is "eight hundred thousand nineteen, one hundred ninety eight". you just use the former more. < 1377040180 156991 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :er i fucked that up < 1377040181 539738 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever. < 1377040207 415651 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thousand nineteen that's an awful lot of nineteens < 1377040222 372861 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :eight hundred nineteen thousand, JERK < 1377040253 303052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: because "sets with operations" is a vague thing of which monoids are a _very_ specific example hth < 1377040254 482393 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike is sharing his happy mood with all of us. thanks Bike. < 1377040260 133941 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :np < 1377040287 429851 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sets with _very_ specific operations twnh < 1377040323 493343 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to go grab edible matter. my stomach is attempting to morph itself into a singularity. < 1377040326 239455 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1377040333 910516 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377040412 964947 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Historically, division rings were sometimes referred to as fields, while fields were called commutative fields. < 1377040489 514685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. i may even vaguely recall that french ended up keeping the opposite convention of english? < 1377040580 169310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i've decided to ban french in the channel, all obscure terms must be acronyms so they're easy to comprehend hth < 1377040665 375306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i've recently discovered, the worst thing about french is that it's so similar to english that when you try to google the definition of a french word it's hard to phrase in such a way that you don't get just french hits with no english explanation. < 1377040769 728632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, _normally_ all i do when i want to get a comprehensible definition of something is to add "definition" to the search terms. but does that work for french? noooo... < 1377041371 181811 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1377041372 384479 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should try speaking a language not made up by normans. < 1377041539 380096 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slips off Bike's chain < 1377041547 600307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: help < 1377041552 471911 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ditto < 1377041563 728036 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's going on < 1377041590 129441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: don't worry, it's just the bike equivalent of tying together his shoelaces hth < 1377041605 734284 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377041606 776644 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :saying my name is?? < 1377041620 376919 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1377041636 635378 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:08 <Bike> possibly shachaf?? < 1377041650 217161 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess he's just talking about monoids < 1377041668 263399 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: monoids aren't cool btw < 1377041675 599636 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're just ol < 1377041678 519266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :comonoids are cool < 1377041679 242524 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1377041702 688429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(comonoid is a real thing btw but it's boring in Set) < 1377041750 259980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about in Set^{op} < 1377041800 766525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about in #esoteric^{op} < 1377041842 687953 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how is your second day as a noogler < 1377041893 500036 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1377042100 344541 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377042168 383902 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps we can automate all these "co-" jokes since they are based on a trivial lexical feature < 1377042200 549205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the cock jokes < 1377042210 454038 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you trying to put me out of a job here < 1377042245 707545 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1377042251 35540 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have nothing against ck cojokes < 1377042442 673492 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but someone even published a paper about a program to automatically make "that's what she said" jokes, so why should we make co jokes manually when we can make them much more efficiently by computer < 1377042466 295202 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in other words mputer jokes < 1377042485 998001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mputer? i hardly know her! < 1377042527 825810 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd be interested in an actual humor generating algorithm < 1377042542 5961 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :computers are notoriously bad at humor < 1377042549 363070 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :humor? i *hit by falling anvil* < 1377042565 820342 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people are notoriously bad at humor < 1377042590 220920 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it involves some kind of intelligence < 1377042617 912927 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computational_humor < 1377042629 103252 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently they even have conferences < 1377042709 665714 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like a rather young field < 1377042762 336296 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be interesting to see it in formal mathematical models < 1377042810 354792 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi scoofy, are you new? < 1377042825 911572 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome scoofy < 1377042827 972622 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08scoo05fy:07 14Welcome to t08he02 internat06ional hu07b fo02r esote07ric pr11ogr12amming02 l09a12nguage design and depl10oyment! Fo11r08 more informatio06n, check out our w02i03k04i: http://e02solangs.or05g/wiki/Mai10n_Page. (For the ot07her kind of11 es12oteri02ca, try14 #esoteri14c on irc.dal.net.) < 1377043183 696479 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes, i could say < 1377043436 418506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: lots of things going on < 1377043439 513539 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fun < 1377043452 266115 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1377043564 185792 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg shachaf turned into One Of Them < 1377043572 394049 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg a wild copumpkin appeared < 1377043577 782714 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hides < 1377043583 79324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's super effective < 1377043598 555515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not i still see it < 1377043600 698574 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1377043678 614000 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377043865 512341 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :List of some DD spells/psionics I made up on this paper includes: Invisibility to Humans, Kjugobe's Fast Growth, Kjugobe's Timer, Kjugobe's Notification, Kjugobe's Super Mind Blast, Kjugobe's Rewind, (some spells are named after their inventor, and so are many of these ones) < 1377043978 758301 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377043996 883151 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: zomg < 1377044031 658437 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have another idea too? < 1377044659 483153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kjugobe's Hovering Bubble < 1377044701 123261 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which does what? < 1377044712 947343 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hover < 1377044745 143931 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it allows you to float in the air, i think it will combine nicely with Invisibility to Humans. < 1377044772 292532 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not recommended in strong winds. < 1377044823 591240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :carry capacity may depend on success roll. < 1377044853 691846 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :scoofy: you could say? :P < 1377044855 594651 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, so that's how it would work. < 1377044892 201059 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where in the air will you float and what is the affect of others on it? < 1377044925 567786 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: been lurking around for a while < 1377044938 663906 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome scoofy < 1377044940 624253 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​11scoofy: W03elcome14 to the in07tern05ational 05hub fo13r esoteric pro06gramming la02nguage design02 and deploym06ent! Fo04r more 02information, c06heck12 out12 our 07wiki: http06://es12ola06ng05s.org/03wiki04/Main_Page. (For06 the other kind03 of 02e08soterica04, try #esoteric05 on 03irc.dal.n11et.) < 1377044946 999087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can guide it in all directions to some extent, but as mentioned it's sensitive to wind. < 1377044964 622734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose archers might affect it *POOF* < 1377045044 55820 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1377045068 982401 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and other sharp weapons, but they have to reach the bubble < 1377045121 584481 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if someone inside, attacks outward or touches things outward? < 1377045152 117834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess sharp weapons can also break it from inside. < 1377045189 738646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be slightly elastic. like a thick balloon. < 1377045203 378997 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, so that's how you cancel it. < 1377045369 278042 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what if whoever inside try to touch objects on the outside? < 1377045540 322329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it behaves like a solid elastic surface which tries to keep its initial shape and size. it is somewhat elastic, but you cannot pass through it without breaking it. < 1377045612 877031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although spells can be cast through it. < 1377045634 486961 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean like http://gallery.burrowowl.net/images/0b/0bfdee42fb4c8a63c76fc1a5545de201 < 1377045664 9928 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hth < 1377045678 964588 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am imagining it to be spherical by default. < 1377045698 709323 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what strange french acronym is hth? < 1377045702 854029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also transparent. < 1377045716 726033 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: i never said the acronyms should be french, sheesh < 1377045812 825527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically it should look like a large soap bubble but be less fragile. i think maybe soap might be a material component of the spell. < 1377045853 831697 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is not an acronym, hth < 1377045865 971449 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe it is in french. < 1377045886 978353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in french it is inaudible as all the letters are silent hth < 1377045975 812164 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You say spells can cast through it. I suppose certainly magical abilities such as mind blast, telepathy, illusions, mage hand, etc can work through it, but what about such physical effect of magical spells, such as magic missile, fire balls, force cage, etc? < 1377046146 640269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess physically destructive spells shouldn't. < 1377046236 98861 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose physically destructive spells would break it and then still work, maybe. Is that what you were thinking of? < 1377046243 908231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1377046303 398103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not meant to be good for combat, more like for escape or transportation. < 1377046321 915510 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Excess Flood < 1377046350 885914 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1377046689 798970 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to learn to trust mouse wheels again < 1377046704 769638 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :After my months of betrayal by them < 1377046819 830119 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote toilet < 1377046821 67619 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :104) <oerjan> alise: mainly it's the fact it blows so hard i cannot avoid hitting the walls of the thing, which completely goes against my basic public toilet hygiene principles \ 380) * Sgeo mutters about broken toilets <Sgeo> #toilet is useless <monqy> is #toilet even a thing <Sgeo> I'm looking for help with toilets \ 381) <Sgeo> Dear eHow: Pl < 1377046835 854691 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote eHow < 1377046837 417729 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :78) <Warrigal> I seem to think of coaxial cables as being omnipotent somehow. \ 381) <Sgeo> Dear eHow: Please don't assume that my toilet works like that <Sgeo> Or, at least, my toilet looks different \ 599) <Ngevd> Somehow I managed to read Haskell as Befunge \ 1084) <Phantom_Hoover> my emergency contacts list somehow has my father listed in both < 1377047450 303818 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1377047482 622799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly realizes how much weirder 104 looks without context < 1377047557 670233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it was about the Dyson Airblade drier) < 1377047571 395792 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure that's why it was added < 1377047598 171342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1377047622 944114 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377047641 338701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was previously assuming it was weird enough even with context < 1377047689 34928 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote toilet | tail -c 400 < 1377047690 496836 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :r back? yeah... it adds up \ 725) <kmc> aim hecker (n): when ur dronk and u pee so bad all over the toilet that ppl make fun of u <kmc> (corruption of "aim heckler") \ 986) <kmc> i'm not actually competent at hacking things <elliott> ummmm kmc dont u mean `cracking' [tiny glider symbol with "hacker pride" written next to it in silkscreen] [head o < 1377047711 391692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote toilet | tail -c 350 < 1377047712 970335 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :n): when ur dronk and u pee so bad all over the toilet that ppl make fun of u <kmc> (corruption of "aim heckler") \ 986) <kmc> i'm not actually competent at hacking things <elliott> ummmm kmc dont u mean `cracking' [tiny glider symbol with "hacker pride" written next to it in silkscreen] [head of a gnu] [tux penguin] <kmc> [face shoved in toilet < 1377047737 246290 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see we have a lot of toilet quotes < 1377047788 142893 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :n) < 1377048522 452542 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: speculation: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=15861177&postcount=25 < 1377048598 313828 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the best speculation, maybe < 1377049147 465942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: good luck finding any remains after the explosion < 1377049288 685085 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377049332 530985 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :dan200 < 1377049890 18627 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was thinking more in terms of they'd probably not like Lawful Evil either. Hating Paladins doesn't mean being ok with Evil < 1377050077 499093 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377050102 513761 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje < 1377050143 289620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: no, but we are talking about people descending from a usually evil race of dragons here. < 1377050222 564199 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1377050251 441427 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was under the impression that the Scribble was * Good or * Neutral < 1377050264 272557 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same with defending the gate < 1377050300 956948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a Scribble < 1377050302 815403 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I guess that doesn't exclude being ok with being revived by Lawful Evil, and I guess even Evil characters might defend the Gate or work to protect reality < 1377050305 810230 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Order of the Scribble < 1377050317 54142 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soon, Girard, et. al < 1377050336 325588 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that might be a fan nickname < 1377050344 534631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh sure, i am assuming girard is chaotic good, but he's still descended from a dragon < 1377050386 902000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe neutral. < 1377051195 913278 :kallisti!~eris@c-24-99-220-130.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377051196 57839 :kallisti!~eris@c-24-99-220-130.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1377051196 57974 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1377051268 728821 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the snarl looks to be still there < 1377052003 171904 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah yeah I have the same problem with the airblade < 1377052061 6452 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's a taboo thought: washing your hands after using the facilities is not beneficial in every circumstance < 1377052100 887344 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still do it because a) conditioning b) people will look at you like you just kicked a puppy < 1377052215 626022 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love how the airblade makes it basically impossible to avoid contact with the fan nozzle < 1377052223 259624 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :great hygiene there dyson < 1377052234 989966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is it not beneficial and do i really want to know. < 1377052270 573137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that's what my quote is _about_ hth < 1377052349 822866 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have i done my dyson routine here yet < 1377052352 619393 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel sure i have < 1377052367 981368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember seeing it < 1377052497 93735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: in any case where it's not beneficial you need to call authorities to get the place closed down immediately hth < 1377052575 867585 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case of authorities not willing/able to do so, you need to take over the government. < 1377052602 706616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth. < 1377052806 994912 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377053113 460932 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377053373 976888 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1377053665 431776 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377054210 85194 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377054228 238317 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1377054233 845576 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1377054958 126630 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1377054992 354987 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in a nonexistent building that I think is older than elliott (I forget exactly how old elliott is) < 1377055036 338385 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This building was made November 1995 < 1377055046 234423 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am also in a building older than I am. < 1377055067 420629 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no, that's younger < 1377055071 788642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am in a building younger than i am hth < 1377055111 168446 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Active Worlds had some promotional thing with Jumanji < 1377055152 76717 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I realized a unusual feature I put in the Z-machine assembler, which is the DW_SKIP command. I don't konw of other assembler having such feature. < 1377055278 828116 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know if there is some? < 1377055314 772760 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The DW_SKIP command takes a count and then the data; however, the count is how many numbers of the data will be skipped and not written to the output.) < 1377055371 53274 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1377055376 343955 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure this "Historical Society" is older than the thing it was studying was when the historical society was created < 1377055407 300531 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AW was 1995(?), maybe 1997 went public, the historical society was 2000 < 1377055804 112262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <boily> it's not weird, it's even in alphabetical order and nicely formatted! < 1377055807 711471 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1092) <boily> it's not weird, it's even in alphabetical order and nicely formatted! < 1377056011 829886 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the "pronounce" name for the comma command in Forth? < 1377056115 250635 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you have a link to your z-machine stuff? < 1377056179 59972 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: Yes, I do have. You can find it in my user page of IF Wiki, and you can look in http://zzo38computer.org/zmachine/ < 1377056324 55138 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have reached a location of Bill Clinton jokes < 1377056432 599816 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :those still exist? < 1377056658 43333 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bill Clinton jokes are immortal, much like Bill Clinton. < 1377056728 431435 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: thank you < 1377056755 989564 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: they were popular in 1998 or so, and that's when those signs at the location I was at were built < 1377056928 441978 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: Does this work? [O, it is same name] < 1377056957 696462 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ja it works < 1377057010 340829 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am writing the document for Frolg 1.3 and will released soon. < 1377057033 804487 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Frolg is the Z-machine assembler. Aimfiz and Fweep are interpreters.) < 1377057103 681967 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know some things about Z-machine? < 1377057139 730495 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing more than is on wikipedia, they seem quite esoteric < 1377057311 309534 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1377057322 667386 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, a while back I posted a list of "incorrect jokes". < 1377057340 43001 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Example: "What's the best thing about living in Switzerland? Well, the flag is pretty nice." < 1377057377 139359 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've forgotten the original version of one of the jokes. < 1377057381 245571 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The modified version is: "You know, I think I might become a mirror inspector." < 1377057498 325618 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the entire modified joke or just the punchline? < 1377057537 766981 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1377057555 251720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<doesthiswork> so I"m defining addition as A + 0 = A, A + S(B) = S( A + B), A + T(B) = T( A + B) <-- i think that's basically concatenation if you think of the type as list of S's and T's < 1377057572 381250 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup it is < 1377057579 309700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i guess makes it associative, at least :) < 1377057610 150955 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and commutative when adding things to 0 < 1377057646 243120 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: that's the entire modified joke. < 1377057664 183700 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, what could the original have been? Something involving the phrase "looking into mirrors"? < 1377057675 18357 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I've been reflecting on my life and..." < 1377057722 40532 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"after some reflection I think I might become a mirror inspector." < 1377057827 768392 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I defined it so it would be concatenation < 1377057932 978868 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it would be annoy if it did something different like A + S(B) = S( B + A) < 1377058017 282095 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :these new ops are growing our ban list something fearfully < 1377058071 167207 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes I think it probably is. < 1377058397 241072 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1377058441 158820 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1377058990 186677 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Does my proposed joke work? < 1377059037 383882 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure that isn't the original. < 1377059932 52117 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1377062454 943303 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377062723 380726 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1377063742 55414 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1377063920 35866 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377064576 739262 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist < 1377064578 337276 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1377064821 102228 :dan200!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :^v < 1377065033 529443 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(913) < 1377065368 408856 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377065397 112025 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1377065521 534306 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377065970 415124 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz... < 1377080272 470737 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377081423 478129 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377081606 929398 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377081615 949898 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1377081831 654150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afternoon < 1377082873 774700 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1377082973 685385 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1377083458 934845 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377084399 109792 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377085908 37230 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377086000 46818 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377086005 570564 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi samantus < 1377086005 715391 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Hi samantus < 1377086177 153205 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome samantus < 1377086177 336144 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Implies < 1377086182 671630 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awwww < 1377086183 748962 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04saman10tus: Welco02me t02o 06the interna07tional hub fo12r eso08te08ric programm12ing language08 design14 03and deploy14ment! For11 more information, chec06k out our wiki: h12ttp:10//esola03ngs.org/wiki/Main12_05Page. (For the othe14r kind 08of e06soteri09ca,08 try #esoter05ic on irc.dal07.08ne13t.) < 1377086186 978743 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yayyy! < 1377086202 971562 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it me or does "relcome" sounds japanese? < 1377086218 941246 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sound < 1377086315 679794 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rofl < 1377086316 676383 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1377086420 320518 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, so much new esolangs lately: doublefuck, jumpfuck, bitfuck, reduced instruction set brainfuck, braincurses, braincursion, paintfuck++ < 1377086454 299062 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :paintfuck++ looks interesting < 1377086461 727472 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, its name does < 1377086467 973651 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it has two fancy + symbols in it < 1377086475 271066 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Votre recherche de paintfuck++ ne correspond à aucun document." < 1377086486 608542 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the "paint" part that intrigues me < 1377086496 392890 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This language is by User:Poolala, and is an extension of the Paintfuck language. Each cell is represented as an RGB code, and the colors wrap. (FF to 00, 00 to FF) The cell array is the same as Paintfuck's." < 1377086514 977179 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just painfuck with an extra instruction or something < 1377086516 508150 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Paintfuck%2B < 1377086573 951022 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's + not ++, my bad < 1377086598 665832 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Close enough < 1377086625 181135 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically it replaces the flip cell command with increment/decrement cell < 1377086656 202194 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's like paintfuck IN COLOUR < 1377086682 789820 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1377086699 770890 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1377086749 29273 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each cell also seems to have a "current color" selector for the R/G/B component. < 1377086780 549443 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitfuck is equivalend to smallfuck with input, except for the fact that it's syntax is ambiguous < 1377086786 125953 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*its < 1377086847 903117 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it isn't < 1377086858 957052 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought ! actually did something < 1377086912 405147 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, doublefuck sounds familiar < 1377087007 816296 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely, there must be another 2D brainfuck variant < 1377087013 441426 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you make a derivative using lisp syntax, you get s-fuck < 1377087033 933561 :nucular!~nucular_@89.204.130.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377087042 928141 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377087073 815377 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well now that we have come to the doublefuck point, it is clearly time to make n-dimensional brainfuck to ensure nobody makes a 3D variant < 1377087093 966783 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I fear that might not stop anyone < 1377087197 641853 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1377087217 106026 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377087276 568650 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you count a two-tape brainfuck as "2D"? < 1377087299 646958 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Dimensifuck hth < 1377087310 763788 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: aah < 1377087340 491551 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's not a N-tape variant, though. (Which would be kind of the logical extension from DoubleFuck.) < 1377087351 131329 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, fizzie < 1377087364 304172 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has 2 dimensions but they're not fully accessible < 1377087366 696293 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how I see it < 1377087409 499237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure if there's an arbitrary-dimension variant which affects both code and tape < 1377087435 407968 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: Does such a brainfuck variant exist? < 1377087435 551895 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Variant exist < 1377087445 531275 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: You're stupid, do you know that? < 1377087445 675995 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Do you call it where you need to be a good one < 1377087507 384200 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Clearly you must define a brainfuck variant where the code lives in an N-dimensional space, and there are M separate L-dimensional "tapes". < 1377087611 602915 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :the the code must be written in N dimensions < 1377087651 662684 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus, I conclude that we can only trivially represent 3-dimensional code < 1377087669 379250 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not Yog-Sothoth? < 1377087693 705082 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :an n-dimensional being can represent (n - 1) dimensional brainfuck code I guess < 1377087723 756898 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shameful fact: there's no standard for Funge-98 source files for dimensionalities larger than three. < 1377087734 410502 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus, can 4 dimensional brainfuck code exist in our universe? I think it can, if your source code mutates in time < 1377087748 782990 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In TreFunge-98, form feed increments the z coordinate and resets x and y to zero.) < 1377087752 527625 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Self-modifying brainfuck < 1377087776 645454 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't need to mix time in there, there's nothing preventing you from writing brainfuck code with four spatial dimensions. < 1377087811 122300 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :allocate 4 dimensional matrix for data tape, and you're set < 1377087815 882675 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't understand how one would write 4 dimensional code < 1377087827 696380 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :scoofy: I mean the code itself, not the memory < 1377087828 158137 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: simply < 1377087843 840555 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Just define a file format for it. Possibly also write an editor that can do nice 2D projections. < 1377087881 800391 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I guess that would work, yes < 1377087886 251028 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the code, you could have 4D code tape... but if you want to really explore that vector space, you'd need more operators for 4d navigation < 1377087922 354121 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :f. ex. <> ^v in 2D (left-right, up-down), now add 4 more operators for th e other 2 dimensions < 1377087935 618687 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: would you say a parallel universe exists in the same dimensions as us, or in a different one? < 1377087962 343686 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has nothing to do with time-space or universe or parallelity < 1377087964 118972 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't really say anything about parallel universes, and they don't seem terribly relevant to multidimensional brainfucks. < 1377087991 398753 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dimension is a mathematical concept, showing the arity of a vector < 1377088094 884210 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It seems interesting to make this brainfuck variant operate in K different universes as well < 1377088234 632007 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 dimensions is not enough?? < 1377088241 485714 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why you want other universes? :) < 1377088256 180999 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :scoofy: well the original idea was to have n dimensions < 1377088287 616008 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have 1024 dimensions if you want < 1377088290 616246 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I want multiple universes because in a different universe the operations can be defined otherwisze < 1377088294 578323 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :would require quite much RAM though < 1377088309 780628 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there exists as many universes as there are permutations of the instruction set < 1377088328 827102 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :scoofy: no I don't want a fixed size. Just n < 1377088341 233071 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :char int data_tape[30000][30000][30000][30000]; < 1377088357 626997 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you would dynamically allocate storage as needed < 1377088413 104253 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually for this to compile you'd need 17 exabyes or 17,000 petabytes or 17,000,000 terabytes or 17,000,000,000 gigabytes of RAM... < 1377088432 370018 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why you need to dynamically allocate < 1377088473 421706 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's an interesting problem space, once you start wandering off in 4d < 1377088497 306345 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377088511 566240 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or create a subset and limit it to, say tape[100][100][100][100] < 1377088526 739804 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that needs only 100 MB of RAM < 1377088558 886066 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :or... you allocate as you need and use practically no RAM until someoene wants to < 1377088567 934815 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377088571 209355 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or write a little toy 4d brainfuck with tape size 64^4, that fits into 64 kbytes < 1377088596 162633 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you need a pretty sophisticated memory manager for that, i guess.. < 1377088597 304288 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :64^4 certainly doesn't fit in 64k. < 1377088603 508148 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant 16^ < 1377088606 1685 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :16^4 < 1377088611 234501 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is 65536 < 1377088626 906133 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :scoofy: it's called std::vector ;) < 1377088632 990228 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good enough for a toy 4d brainfuck :) < 1377088640 645427 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hashmaps are the "standard" implementation strategy for Funge-98 implementations. < 1377088650 90046 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1377088667 516625 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those, of course, don't really care about the dimensionality of the keys. < 1377088668 943117 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :the implementation strategy doesn't seem to be the most important aspect of the problem here < 1377088671 580147 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377088694 189887 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if a N-dimensional brainfuck has so many terribly important aspects. < 1377088695 866859 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's important, since you can 'wander off' anywhere in 4d < 1377088752 632731 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: true, it needs to be made more complex < 1377088771 678 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo TOPIC #esoteric :The welcomes of doom | 22nd IOCCC is open: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | jsvine is doing an esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q/viewform | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric | <AnotherTest> fizzie: true, it needs to be made more complex < 1377088786 585295 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome complexity < 1377088788 923344 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08comple12xity: Welcome to t06he internatio08nal hub 11for eso09teric programming 11la05nguage de14si14gn and deployme06n03t! For mor09e in10f11orm07ati04on, ch02eck out07 our wiki: http://11eso05langs06.org/wiki/Main_Pa05ge. (For the12 other kin09d of esoterica, 02try #es10oteri12c on irc.dal.net.) < 1377088790 275770 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? complexity < 1377088791 977584 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :complexity? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377088792 351417 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                 | < 1377088792 556150 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               o/`¯º < 1377088795 895475 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck complexity < 1377088802 812627 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: Is it complex enough? < 1377088802 957455 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Complex enough < 1377088810 231189 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: please say something cool for once < 1377088810 376106 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Cool for once < 1377088810 854848 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :%echo Complexity! < 1377088811 287223 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complexity! < 1377088816 678788 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn complexity < 1377088818 574970 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: aah < 1377088818 920917 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Hub firefox < 1377088819 121337 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "complexity" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1377088819 266637 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :complexity < 1377088819 266731 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: the quality of being intricate and compounded; "he enjoyed < 1377088819 266786 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : the complexity of modern computers" [syn: {complexity}, < 1377088819 266831 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : {complexness}] [ant: {simpleness}, {simplicity}] < 1377088820 185501 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Nice quotation there.) < 1377088836 622808 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice, nice < 1377088868 414107 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are quite a few people who enjoy the simplicity of non-modern computers; I guess there have to be some folks that do the opposite. < 1377088869 400420 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think samantus' "use the words from the input"-strategy isn't that good after all. < 1377088869 545298 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: That good after all < 1377088887 75064 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably i'd first start off with a 16^4 toy 4d brainfuck to work out the basics, and deal with the dynamic allocaion later < 1377088904 398908 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: Hi < 1377088904 580407 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Set providing < 1377088907 788886 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :pff < 1377088919 79392 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: Tell me a joke < 1377088919 224416 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: A joke < 1377088925 783175 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: tell me something < 1377088925 927699 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Me something i didnt ask you i told you do i dont see parse error possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched < 1377088972 889667 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: did you actually learn from your own parse errors. that seems unlikely/impossible < 1377088973 34364 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Your own parse errors that seems < 1377088988 497954 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hopeless :( < 1377088990 274796 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's lambdabot's < 1377088994 66987 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :> rofl < 1377088995 87939 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `rofl' < 1377088996 539365 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh probably < 1377089002 411872 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ehco < 1377089003 429465 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `ehco' < 1377089004 693632 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] whois "Roujo"; < 1377089004 838395 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Roujo is a VERY annoying person/bot (this does not apply to boily/AnotherTest) < 1377089004 983414 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>echo < 1377089005 976163 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: data constructor `Roujo'Not in scope: `is' < 1377089006 120852 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant... < 1377089018 291365 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's nice < 1377089037 3927 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: that wasn't very nice < 1377089037 148931 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: That wasnt very nice < 1377089044 257058 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus < 1377089044 401767 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Of i < 1377089047 200282 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus < 1377089047 345152 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Of 100 < 1377089050 37241 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus < 1377089050 181867 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Debian cell < 1377089052 781694 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus < 1377089052 926734 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: < 1377089052 926900 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric : multiples < 1377089055 851982 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :pff < 1377089066 335401 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't seem to generate long chains < 1377089073 598019 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] whois "AnotherTest"; < 1377089073 742977 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> AnotherTest is a VERY annoying person/bot (this does not apply to boily/AnotherTest) < 1377089074 999286 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: data constructor `AnotherTest'Not in scope: `is' < 1377089075 144127 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you... < 1377089088 883903 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] whois "samantus"; < 1377089089 28564 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Whois samantus < 1377089089 28665 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> samantus is a VERY annoying person/bot (this does not apply to boily/AnotherTest) < 1377089090 18137 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `samantus'Not in scope: `is' < 1377089090 162829 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these:... < 1377089090 162992 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: Not in < 1377089092 598339 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1377089185 291398 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] up whois "Roujo"; < 1377089205 60908 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right it was uc < 1377089208 918943 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] uc whois "Roujo"; < 1377089209 64076 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ROUJO IS A VERY ANNOYING PERSON/BOT (THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO BOILY/ANOTHERTEST) < 1377089210 63216 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: data constructor `ROUJO'Not in scope: data constructor `IS' < 1377089210 207866 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : ... < 1377089210 938503 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :take that < 1377089251 863900 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] pow 2 1123456 < 1377089255 818022 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] pow 2 1123456; < 1377089326 337867 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] pow pow < 1377089384 396971 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: ok so the language's syntax is kind of like this: call (call or arg) < 1377089415 484871 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and don't forget the semicolon < 1377089425 997265 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg. < 1377089428 552319 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] call (call or arg) < 1377089431 734622 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] mul 5 5; < 1377089436 72110 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :[08:50:29] <samantus> Oops, seems like something went wrong... < 1377089436 215652 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Something went wrong < 1377089437 629948 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok um < 1377089441 718530 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1377089453 683049 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] pow 2 2 < 1377089465 328508 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something went wrong again < 1377089468 641067 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] add "a" "b"; < 1377089468 786169 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ab < 1377089468 786359 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] pow 2 22 < 1377089469 798249 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `ab' < 1377089469 943192 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1377089469 943288 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : `a' (imported from D... < 1377089473 93592 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah the semicolon < 1377089483 53366 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] pow 2 22; < 1377089485 157480 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you have to convert the int result to a printable string < 1377089488 258909 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :using "id" < 1377089490 711598 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1377089497 245925 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] id pow 2 22; < 1377089500 390659 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] id pow 2 22; < 1377089505 844957 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope =P < 1377089513 287289 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] id ( pow 2 22 ); < 1377089516 661645 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377089521 255851 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, parentheses are ignored < 1377089524 502721 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :'sup, boily, frère de boily? < 1377089527 210897 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] id mul 5 5; < 1377089530 1392 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1377089532 119495 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good parenthetic morning! < 1377089536 582932 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok don't use numbers they don't work < 1377089549 47847 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] mul "Hi boily. " 10 < 1377089551 305939 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] id pow "2" "22" < 1377089551 672333 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] mul "Hi boily. " 10; < 1377089551 816990 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Hi boily. Hi boily. Hi boily. Hi boily. Hi boily. Hi boily. Hi boily. Hi boily. Hi boily. Hi boily. < 1377089552 659105 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : <hint>:1:100: < 1377089552 803893 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatche... < 1377089563 535931 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I sushied yesterday. how's life for you, friend of boily, brother of boily? < 1377089573 806335 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also sushied. T'was nice. < 1377089583 709504 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] add "" mul 5 5; < 1377089590 637925 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] mul "boilyBoily" 255 < 1377089591 724926 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] add 5 5; < 1377089605 353515 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] mul "boilyBoily" 255; < 1377089605 517722 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> boilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBo < 1377089605 559137 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyB < 1377089605 559344 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboily < 1377089605 559452 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :BoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboil < 1377089605 662393 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :yBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboi < 1377089605 884786 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :lyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilybo < 1377089606 30033 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoily < 1377089609 263456 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: < 1377089609 408335 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : `boilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBoilyboilyBo... < 1377089610 181600 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1377089610 540545 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp < 1377089610 949831 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOWCH. < 1377089615 85808 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1377089624 22295 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do that too much < 1377089624 721632 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377089631 169681 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some sort of line length limit could be worth investigation. < 1377089632 652147 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Apparently, you're not in scope < 1377089633 49092 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people might get mad < 1377089640 748011 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry about that < 1377089642 565578 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: there is a line length limit < 1377089648 954810 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't get mad, I'm not in scope. < 1377089649 896704 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just incredibly large < 1377089672 216156 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] mul add "." ";" 5 < 1377089677 110112 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] mul add "." ";" 5; < 1377089677 254846 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> .;.;.;.;.; < 1377089678 98132 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : <hint>:1:1: parse error on input `.' < 1377089711 229433 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] mul add mul "." 6 ";" 5; < 1377089711 374308 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ......;......;......;......;......; < 1377089712 322958 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : <hint>:1:1: parse error on input `......' < 1377089720 662395 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] mul add mul "." 6 \";" 5; < 1377089752 354436 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I will lower it. What do you suggest? < 1377089779 730111 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 < 1377089795 230827 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] let hi $x = add "hello " $x; < 1377089808 970161 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] hi "roujo"; < 1377089809 114967 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> hello roujo < 1377089810 117565 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `hello'Not in scope: `roujo' < 1377089817 110332 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :> set roujo = 3 < 1377089817 996223 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : <hint>:1:11: parse error on input `=' < 1377089823 148277 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :> set roujo 3 < 1377089824 184451 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `roujo' < 1377089828 667621 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :> scope roujo < 1377089830 333939 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `scope'Not in scope: `roujo' < 1377089833 485505 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well crap < 1377089839 501779 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :> roujo = 3 < 1377089846 771304 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :> scope roujo < 1377089857 719946 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let roujo = 3 in roujo * 2 < 1377089868 467681 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let me go < 1377089880 787013 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok lambdabot broke < 1377089905 722886 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] let roujo = "roujo"; < 1377089908 258790 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : <hint>:1:7: parse error on input `=' < 1377089908 404157 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `scope'Not in scope: `roujo' < 1377089908 404359 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6 < 1377089908 404465 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : <hint>:1:10: < 1377089908 404573 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched... < 1377089913 10307 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] hello rojo; < 1377089918 169650 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] hello roujo; < 1377089918 586731 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let roujo = 3 < 1377089919 656347 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: I don't know, but possibly something like one or three IRC messages. < 1377089924 935469 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : not an expression: `let roujo = 3' < 1377089934 436093 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let roujo = 3 in roujo = 3 < 1377089935 295427 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : <hint>:1:24: parse error on input `=' < 1377089938 400747 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let roujo = 3 in roujo == 3 < 1377089939 777121 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1377089947 889837 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let roujo = 3 in global < 1377089960 123423 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `global' < 1377089960 268097 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant `local' (imported from Control.Mo... < 1377089965 580373 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let roujo = 3 in local < 1377089967 72084 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Control.Monad.Reader.Class.MonadReader r0 m0) < 1377089967 216726 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising f... < 1377089969 933402 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp < 1377090005 710492 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what's the maximum lent of a message? < 1377090008 886827 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*length < 1377090040 277344 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: 512 bytes, but you have to factor in protocol things. < 1377090057 931566 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The :nick!user@host prefix, the PRIVMSG, the #esoteric, the :, and the crlf at the end. < 1377090075 572550 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :On freenode, thanks to cloaks, the first one is pretty hard to predict. < 1377090090 185420 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377090113 700559 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377090124 927342 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] mul "fizzie" 500 < 1377090125 635924 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck cloak < 1377090125 913585 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cloak definition: a loose outer garment. < 1377090127 61898 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] mul "fizzie" 500; < 1377090127 463394 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizzief < 1377090127 464036 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :izziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizz < 1377090127 464262 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :iefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizzief < 1377090127 464371 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :izziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizz < 1377090127 608476 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :iefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizzief < 1377090127 753207 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :izziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizz < 1377090127 753379 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :iefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizzie < 1377090130 608576 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: < 1377090130 753380 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : `fizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefizziefiz... < 1377090135 46128 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it doesn't work < 1377090151 988956 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] mul "fizzie" 50000; < 1377090177 20895 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] mul "| " add "5" "0" < 1377090181 821043 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] mul "| " add "5" "0"; < 1377090188 235088 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377090189 821835 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, GG < 1377090205 589898 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :samantus: do you still live < 1377090208 149265 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts up a few sacks of sand to prepare for the flood < 1377090215 149836 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should stack them about yea high < 1377090231 30750 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's having trouble duplicating "fizzie" 50000 times < 1377090253 939573 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely, freenode has a flood limit? < 1377090255 224457 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's certainly understandable. I shudder to think of a gaggle of 50000 of me. < 1377090266 174669 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :world war fizzie. < 1377090273 1380 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: yes, I suppose it will get disconnected < 1377090277 669186 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see < 1377090291 496043 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is however taking suspiciously long < 1377090306 157766 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I'm not *that* big to process. < 1377090350 396477 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: 300000 bytes is a lot < 1377090350 928654 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377090364 362337 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in this day and age. < 1377090374 726375 :samantus!~samantus@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377090383 300767 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will autorejoin < 1377090384 608075 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here lies samantus < 1377090405 459128 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :however it has still not finished so I will kill it < 1377090413 582237 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :killall samantus < 1377090436 861332 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/samantus//g < 1377090494 135952 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote end to all < 1377090495 687467 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :439) <fungot> fizzie: i, myself, will bring an end to all. < 1377090517 561368 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel obliged to rewrite it in N-dimensional brainfuck now < 1377090543 335685 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :but on the other hand... that doesn't sound very appealin < 1377090547 108121 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*appealing < 1377090550 763764 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1377090556 259228 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know who else isn't appealing? < 1377090557 419784 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't it exists already? < 1377090567 271519 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :OJ Simpson < 1377090590 787503 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :scoofy: I don't really enjoy writing brainfuck < 1377090592 386265 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why nobody ever marketer Simpsons' OJ yet. < 1377090600 17749 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ter/ted/ < 1377090611 553210 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmmm... Can you actually appeal a decision in your favor? < 1377090633 477025 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :scoofy: but if you want to suggest another language, go ahead < 1377090649 275726 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1377090700 563985 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to see a Glass bot. In fact, I might have started one already, but it got abandoned. < 1377090730 118753 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1377090731 902037 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :still better to write than programming in writing malbolge < 1377090743 139547 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't written any glass yet < 1377090745 473236 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck malbolge < 1377090745 731388 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Malbolge is a public domain esoteric programming language invented by Ben Olmstead in 1998, named after the eighth circle of hell in Dante's Inferno, the Malebolge. < 1377090756 853853 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is pleasantly surprised < 1377090784 984661 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did Mr. Olmstead ever join this channel? < 1377090879 254483 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck brainfuck < 1377090880 136963 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The brainfuck programming language is an esoteric programming language noted for its extreme minimalism. < 1377090885 549134 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck Olmstead < 1377090885 945554 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Matt Olmstead, an American writer and producer for television shows. < 1377090892 557883 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Close enough < 1377090898 353916 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck duck < 1377090898 687742 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :duck definition: any of various swimming birds (family Anatidae, the duck family) in which the neck and legs are short, the feet typically webbed, the bill often broad and flat, and the sexes usually different from each other in plumage. < 1377090903 878706 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olmsteads are fongible. < 1377090910 259994 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungible? < 1377090917 675462 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingibla? < 1377090924 675203 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck fongible < 1377090924 929431 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377090928 274543 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck fungible < 1377090928 548041 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fungibility is the property of a good or a commodity whose individual units are capable of mutual substitution, such as sweet crude oil, shares in a company, bonds, precious metals, or currencies. < 1377090932 701215 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/o/u/ < 1377090939 383915 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/o/u/g < 1377090948 961156 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...................Ruuju........... < 1377090956 813940 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/u/u/g < 1377090959 820203 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well shit < 1377091045 602218 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377091176 382094 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377091186 624682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't clearly remember if olmstead's been here, it must have been long ago. fizzie should know. < 1377091255 516172 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't clearly remember that happening, but that's not really conclusive proof. < 1377091322 608579 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`elderlist < 1377091323 896821 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: elderlist: not found < 1377091592 585664 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377091652 667301 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377091803 935103 :nucular!~nucular_@89.204.130.86 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1377092861 699260 :nucular!~nucular_@89.204.130.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377093031 326407 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377093086 449481 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanello. careful of the fizzies, there are rather plenty of them today. < 1377093323 828074 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1377093337 365839 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know that elliott has a fruit and veg shop in Wideopen? < 1377093360 964060 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck wideopen < 1377093361 262109 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wideopen is a village located in the administrative Borough of North Tyneside, north of Gosforth and six miles from Newcastle upon Tyne city centre. < 1377093405 792012 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything is somewhat related to hexham... < 1377093460 929076 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377093465 321606 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you're a fruitmonger now? < 1377093497 179397 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1377093541 289688 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should see him mong those fruit < 1377093605 301188 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? elliott < 1377093606 702067 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott wrote this learn DB, and wrote or improved many of the other commands in this bot. He probably has done other things? He is also tire. And a lystrosaur. < 1377093630 561400 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thing the mong mong mong goes in the probably other things. < 1377093634 912841 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/thing /think / < 1377093640 381297 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote lystrosaur < 1377093641 666342 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377093652 153998 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck lystrosaur < 1377093652 536592 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lystrosaurus ("shovel lizard") is a genus of Late Permian and Early Triassic Period dicynodont therapsids, which lived around 250 million years ago in what is now Antarctica, India, and South Africa. < 1377093807 271130 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo >wisdom/lystrosaur "The lystrosaurs were an ancient genus of evil reptiles who successfully took over the world in the early Triassic." < 1377093810 713351 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377093863 146738 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377094303 92336 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck 鶏 < 1377094303 412685 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377094333 649442 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should add W|A infos to ~duck. < 1377094476 863222 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that means making W|A queries, it'd be incredibly illegal, they'd throw you in jail. < 1377094496 300780 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't you heard it's a federal crime to go against terms of service these days? < 1377094546 254637 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("The Wolfram|Alpha service may be used only by a human being using a conventional web browser to manually enter queries one at a time.") < 1377094565 475905 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not the one querying, I use ddg as a broker. granted, with the kind of subpœnas you get these days it'll probably get lumped together with everything else, but hey, I like living dangerously. < 1377094584 57028 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that you're not even allowed to use it if your browser is something less mainstream. < 1377094588 801759 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and promoting the independance and freedom of marine animals too) < 1377094596 267697 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1377094599 785403 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut? < 1377094632 804927 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're telling me ddg has a special license and/or agreement with W|A for them to display infos in an encart? < 1377094641 713735 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1377094650 525226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Today, in conjunction with DuckDuckGo, we are happy to share that Wolfram|Alpha and DuckDuckGo have entered a new phase of our relationship as official partners. As a result of this partnership, DuckDuckGo will expand Wolfram|Alpha integration into its search site --" < 1377094671 718386 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1377094694 6093 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bummer. < 1377094713 366694 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though they do have that official API these days too. < 1377094724 301794 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how that works with their regular terms of service. < 1377094752 604372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It allows for 2000 "non-commercial" W|A queries per month before you have to pay.) < 1377094798 945769 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, considering W|A has a slimy jelly at its head, I think I'm going to play it safe, even tho I'd really like to have the extra info source clumped into metasepia. < 1377094810 199320 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, instant 漢字 lookup! < 1377094904 429102 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? liopleurodon < 1377094906 63209 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :liopleurodon? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377094906 411542 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                   | < 1377094906 661917 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                 º¯`\o < 1377094960 774596 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do everything nowadays need to be embroiled in an Universal Meandering Legal Quagmire of Unhelpfulness? < 1377095401 106568 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how ddg are teaming up with W|A < 1377095421 71595 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i'm sure wolfram cares about user privacy and search integrity and all that stuff" < 1377095442 72787 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: careful about what you say here. maybe they're logging the chännel! < 1377095460 434707 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've gone trema mad < 1377095471 273149 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they there to throw off wolfram < 1377095510 830600 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yüp. < 1377095558 761885 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377095678 146256 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377095717 934685 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377095781 714073 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes on a quest to find an unicode stacked double diæresis. < 1377096041 483201 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite what I had in mind, but I think U+20DC does the job: a⃜. < 1377096079 109173 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Dotpocalypse shall Commence! MWAH AH AH AH AH! < 1377096116 758382 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god < 1377096320 707359 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as previously stated, no, I am still not insane. < 1377096329 249127 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377096336 584314 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so nale dead < 1377096392 914662 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: That didn't show up correctly to me < 1377096396 125862 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp < 1377096398 495374 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck nale < 1377096398 710836 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377096434 536434 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Order of the stick antagonist < 1377096434 819340 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: what do you use as an IRC client? do you have plenty of not-quite-useless-unicode-fonts installed? are your chakras balanced? < 1377096444 418332 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: people die in oots? < 1377096451 561768 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats doesthiswork for spoiling -----### < 1377096471 801802 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use KVIrc, I just use Courrier New, and I think so, yeah < 1377096489 130590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: um, rather frequently... < 1377096564 493696 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Haven't you had ten hours to read it? < 1377096596 98676 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: interesting client, you should enhance your fonts, and just to be sure maybe a consultation with an ayurvedic expert may be helpful. < 1377096612 124942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: oh i've read it, i'm swatting you on principle, and ten hours is far too little, some people catch up in batches. < 1377096649 632597 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you experience catharsis with that swat? < 1377096650 250668 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read a recent study that found that spoilers increased people's enjoyment of a work < 1377096673 714675 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: don't give me the details of that study! I want to read it without knowing its punchlines. < 1377096674 758187 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I like it, which one do you suggest, that's alright, I can do it myself if need be < 1377096710 500464 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read a recent study (this is a lie) that people who use science to contradict other people's feelings have low life expectancy. < 1377096722 972072 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I'm a weechat fanatic as are some of my coworkers, think of the unicode children!, you studied the ayurveda? < 1377096870 512150 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're developing a web-based client to weechat that uses websockets. the project is still pretty much pre-alpha, but there is youtube integration! < 1377096873 263744 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I like KVIrc's nick color feature, does weechat have that; is that the font's name; nah, but I do have a formation in Reiki so close enough? < 1377096888 766528 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377096936 218144 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: colourisation is wholly customisable, no font name yet but “unicode children” sounds good, I think reiki is good. < 1377096965 848038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i have a firm prejudice that all psychological studies have glaringly obvious holes that make them not apply to my situation hth (and i haven't read any of them either) < 1377096995 46888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this also applies to nutrition studies. < 1377096998 333368 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yes, but it it deterministic; I tried to install Droid Mono, but it didn't work for some reason; you know about Reiki? < 1377097019 282444 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1377097029 665705 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have friends who are studying / studied psychology. their average opinion is: stuff happens when stuff happens, and correlating stuff together is a very naïve way of doing things. < 1377097083 86030 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: thanks, that is precisely the kind of anecdotical evidence i'm collecting to bolster my prejudice tdh < 1377097091 366201 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a friend who is psychology, but we don't talk to him anymore < 1377097114 486376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*anecdotal < 1377097114 769044 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: it stays the same across sessions as it is based on a deterministic algorithm of nicks' hashes, I'm on good ol' Terminus but my system complements it with what it can find, only slightly but I'm more knowledgeable with reflexology. < 1377097137 281804 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: glad to have elicited an honourable tdh from you twh. < 1377097175 993509 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, what's a tdh? < 1377097177 421465 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tdh < 1377097179 128190 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377097179 477731 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          | < 1377097179 742643 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        º¯`\o < 1377097189 701804 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: That's nice, I'll have to try that; That's nice, I'll have to try that; That's nice, I'll have to try that. < 1377097238 693669 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, at last a fanin! juggling three subjects at the same time without arrow notation is exhausting. < 1377097247 955470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that did help < 1377097264 862493 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks ørjan < 1377097265 905005 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, ørjan. Than. < 1377097293 74610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sense a bug in the vowel recognition there < 1377097305 892530 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn tdh is the past tense of a successful hth. hth. < 1377097309 864820 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377097322 21738 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn `? is `? is `? < 1377097325 912000 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377097340 247591 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't we have an entry with further details for `?? < 1377097345 483852 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `?? < 1377097347 16271 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`??? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377097347 361046 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1377097347 566727 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         º¯`\o < 1377097351 155678 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1377097362 89735 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1377097363 683599 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377097364 68882 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        | < 1377097364 265837 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69      º¯`\o < 1377097368 969084 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? `? < 1377097370 569832 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? `?? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377097370 945435 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1377097371 126049 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           o/`¯º < 1377097372 759790 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1377097374 533420 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? is `? is `? < 1377097389 940793 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377097390 317958 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1377097390 525790 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           º¯`\o < 1377097393 815237 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377097397 665137 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1377097399 141682 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377097399 483429 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         | < 1377097399 686416 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69       o/`¯º < 1377097404 767997 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377097405 133162 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   | < 1377097405 308635 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 o/`¯º < 1377097409 804117 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT'S AWESOME < 1377097477 588916 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? `? < 1377097479 399766 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? `?? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377097479 749098 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1377097479 965478 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           o/`¯º < 1377097506 941248 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1377097507 86114 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: there's this place in Chinatown which has nice massages for somewhat reasonable prices. < 1377097524 276694 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"somewhat" < 1377097524 936330 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1377097609 386762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : o_o < 1377097621 53408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what < 1377097627 604527 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can expect to pay ~10$ more per session this year compared to last, but it remains affordable and enjoyable. < 1377097646 28091 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hands on discussions :D < 1377097646 172877 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe myndzi is throttling < 1377097669 144472 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION unsticks myndzi with a liberal amount of WD-40 < 1377097677 866183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate < 1377097678 10824 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o| |o| |o/ \m/ \m/ |o/ \o/ \o| \m/ \m/ \o| |o| |o/ < 1377097678 654701 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  |   |   |   `\o/´69     |   |   |   `\o/´69     |   |   | < 1377097678 888095 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  |\  |\  |\    |       |\  >\ /<     |       |\ /<   |\ < 1377097679 723345 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            (_|¯´\                   /´\ < 1377097679 965370 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                 |_)               (_| |_) < 1377097703 128274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hmph < 1377097704 406959 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377097704 835392 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1377097705 44859 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         o/`¯º < 1377097709 884243 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this brings joy to my heart. thanks fizzie, thanks whoever created myndzi. < 1377097742 141142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm wondering why myndzi always chooses that shape for the `? one < 1377097751 119565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377097751 428138 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1377097751 662512 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          º¯`\o < 1377097760 212950 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377097768 524407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1377097780 802733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a different basic head < 1377097797 763992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : °_o < 1377097798 97318 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        | < 1377097798 314817 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69      o/`¯º < 1377097874 127762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell myndzi the \m/ \m/ body is misaligned hth < 1377097874 379939 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377097874 525145 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                 `\o/´69 < 1377097874 669768 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                   | < 1377097874 814698 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  /´¯|_) < 1377097874 814885 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                (_| < 1377097911 878319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: btw myndzi isn't a bot hth < 1377098509 747701 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1377098593 768772 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377098794 626149 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you sure? < 1377098812 169419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite sure < 1377098813 439864 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: on which side of the M/M divide are you? < 1377098822 698349 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Meatbag / Metal divide) < 1377098851 336530 :nucular!~nucular_@89.204.130.86 PART #esoteric :"KTHXBYE" < 1377098905 727445 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I still lean towards a ferro-cupric myndzi composition. < 1377098942 58249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never said he wasn't idling < 1377098998 693249 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whips out his pokacular machine, orients it towards myndzi, and powers it on the HI setting < 1377099109 564066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is not a word although http://www.google.no/search?q=pogacalar&biw=1149&bih=641&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Kt0UUviUMuWJ7AaWiYCoCA&ved=0CC0QsAQ < 1377099168 467800 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, myndzi is a cyborg < 1377099170 784198 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :foiled by norwegian pastries again. < 1377099182 330085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think they're turkish, actually < 1377099182 668515 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION throws a fternooner at oerjan < 1377099183 797159 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which i mean a human who also has a bot attached to his nick < 1377099200 199230 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: please remove your excess underscore < 1377099206 622133 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :need to use my /query < 1377099215 685794 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 NICK :Phantom_Hoover < 1377099224 814680 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: stop applying logical razors. hth. < 1377099281 60937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poga%C4%8Da < 1377099287 677474 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1377099323 293813 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suddenly feel hungrier... < 1377099448 689320 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*MWAHAHAHA* < 1377099537 962019 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377099652 9598 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377100696 702449 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1377100939 644324 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1377100992 271713 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i am somewhat of a metalhead :V < 1377101010 627904 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm super sad my pretty clean code for that stick figure dude got trashed, it's just depressing to hack it into shape :( < 1377101020 945442 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. \m/ \m/ < 1377101025 9431 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolwut < 1377101075 993173 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1377101131 154038 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377101187 712154 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :\m/ \m/ < 1377101192 550651 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :............ \m/ \m/ < 1377101194 857270 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1377101197 93629 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i have no idea < 1377101199 593993 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's super weird < 1377101202 945867 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? myndzi < 1377101204 864555 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi keeps us all on our feet < 1377101208 614237 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1377101210 631128 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA < 1377101211 366024 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1377101212 935832 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377101213 352354 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         | < 1377101213 505447 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69       o/`¯º < 1377101220 128148 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, here it is < 1377101223 476288 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw < 1377101224 433316 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Off-by-one, but eh < 1377101237 480609 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :it hasn't been right since i went to mirc 7 < 1377101247 30901 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode differences and such < 1377101248 985487 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww =/ < 1377101265 891977 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, i fixed a lot of it but i wrote that shit years ago and it's ugly as hell < 1377101276 253305 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i rewrote it all nice and my hard drive crashed D: < 1377101307 937667 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377101320 225430 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wumpus < 1377101391 364149 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1377101459 333548 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wumpus eats you. The end. < 1377101469 362000 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377101475 636495 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a script for it :) < 1377101478 323211 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377101482 496370 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :was just seeing that it responded < 1377101518 870484 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the dcc server part is broke too, god dammit < 1377101526 797453 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should just roll back to mirc 6 and be done with it :P < 1377101535 336773 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even do this shit anymore < 1377101564 60557 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1377101567 657881 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm doing it wrong :P < 1377101589 728689 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :woot. < 1377101661 236882 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wumpus < 1377101670 387434 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god, DCC < 1377101678 628665 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's got too much text to play over irc < 1377101685 759887 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1377101686 124406 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also multiplayer :D < 1377101691 70981 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it work atm? =D < 1377101695 34943 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe so < 1377101720 428250 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also telnet or dccserver chat it, though i think the ports probably don't forward atm < 1377101740 509546 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i should rehost the maps < 1377101751 256637 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've found it to be a lot of fun < 1377101854 824523 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the hell doesn't one of the simplest clauses in the regex match :| < 1377101925 282728 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA < 1377101927 501468 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh geez < 1377101935 291278 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i put a . at the end of it < 1377101943 709463 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it needed a character on the right side (shouldn't) < 1377101949 909155 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :symmetry, my mortal enemy! < 1377101954 716144 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :. \m/ \m/ < 1377101962 728081 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it triggered anyway < 1377101968 963345 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :now wtf < 1377101980 335164 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah < 1377101982 398521 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's two regexes :P < 1377102174 453906 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377102191 451247 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi, are you going to make it properly justified < 1377102195 361146 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :. \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/ < 1377102195 570997 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   `\o/´69   `\o/´69   `\o/´69   `\o/´69   `\o/´69   `\o/´69   `\o/´69   `\o/´69   `\o/´69 < 1377102196 130048 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69     |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       | < 1377102197 140347 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 (_|¯´\     /`\     /`¯|_)  /`\  (_|¯`¯|_)  /'\  (_|¯´\     /'\     /'¯|_) < 1377102197 365245 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69      |_) (_| |_) (_|     (_| |_)         (_| |_)     |_) (_| |_) (_| < 1377102199 522332 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1377102199 768544 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | < 1377102199 913078 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 >\ < 1377102207 415857 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1377102222 36094 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1377102223 727373 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377102224 78167 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        | < 1377102224 334757 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69      o/`¯º < 1377102224 794198 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :justify it by the nick-message separator, not by the start of the nick < 1377102236 419874 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :how should i know what your nick-message separator is? < 1377102250 998653 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how can i output text that conforms to everybody's different display settings? < 1377102260 101021 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :answer that and i'll think about it :) < 1377102280 982603 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1377102282 433475 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377102282 863211 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69       | < 1377102283 35459 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69     º¯`\o < 1377102299 882146 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ ¯\(°_o)/¯ c.c \o\ \m/ \m/ /o/ < 1377102300 94032 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 |     |     c.c.c |   `\o/´69   | < 1377102300 238521 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 >\  º¯`\o    c.c /<     |     |\ < 1377102300 701392 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                        /´\ < 1377102300 897472 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                      (_| |_) < 1377102312 793056 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought it'd be something like that, let's see < 1377102339 747059 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : c.c < 1377102340 125718 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69c.c.c < 1377102340 294483 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 c.c < 1377102346 394639 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu QUIT : < 1377102365 709931 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: um why has fungot reverted to an ancient version of ^celebrate :( < 1377102366 246291 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377102366 391344 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and the lines wrap" attribute there. you know. then they learned about functional languages.) yes. we discussed that. can you just change it to < 1377102395 470235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes < 1377102395 652395 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, jconn ) , blsqbot ! < 1377102408 302832 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that one's right < 1377102417 62273 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't know :( < 1377102425 968599 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :an ancient pagan celebration < 1377102461 768962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs def celebrate < 1377102493 873692 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1377102498 9007 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.25501 < 1377102499 141367 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377102499 642251 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        | < 1377102499 787066 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69      º¯`\o < 1377102503 766640 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's really weird < 1377102511 902685 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377102515 131330 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :it lines up for me in my test channel < 1377102516 170210 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1377102525 975420 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe nick length discrepancy is factoring in somehow < 1377102547 71811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def celebrate ul (\o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/)S < 1377102547 216542 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1377102554 527170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate < 1377102554 671575 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/ < 1377102555 467284 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | c.c.c |  ¯|¯⌠ `\o/´69   | c.c.c ¦   `\o/´69  ¯|¯⌠ | c.c.c | < 1377102555 679528 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/<  c.c /'\ /< |   |     |\ c.c ´¸¨    |    /^\|/|  c.c /< < 1377102556 120063 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               (_|¯´¯|_)              /´\ < 1377102556 409461 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                    (_| |_) < 1377102564 451707 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1377102564 981621 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377102572 483641 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377102575 494301 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of those chars fuck up the monospacing :( < 1377102576 321394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: plz ^save twh < 1377102631 435702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: that looks fine in irssi. well except for that weird guy just right of the middle. < 1377102650 657987 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1377102654 986898 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1377102669 177563 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :some windows font is getting subbed in for the cane shape and something < 1377102692 116292 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯ < 1377102697 365090 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, that should be in this font < 1377102701 176946 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def def ul (hai)S < 1377102701 321747 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1377102711 125932 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def < 1377102711 270880 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hai < 1377102713 490107 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def def < 1377102713 634564 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: ^def <command> <lang> <code> < 1377102719 557402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1377102732 989040 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1377102740 181414 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf inconsolata < 1377102744 367852 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm inconsolable :( < 1377102757 517086 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def a brainfuck +. < 1377102757 661670 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: ^def <command> <lang> <code> < 1377102761 820574 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah there it is, just looks short and stunted < 1377102767 356344 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def a bf +. < 1377102767 501536 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1377102771 323939 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^a < 1377102771 468619 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1377102777 786295 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1377102804 530445 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def a bf +[.] < 1377102804 674949 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1377102806 60911 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1377102806 205699 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1377102807 759615 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377102808 113822 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        | < 1377102808 293555 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69      o/`¯º < 1377102811 25472 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^a < 1377102811 169992 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : ... < 1377102822 914087 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric ::​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377102823 139199 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1377102823 284045 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           o/`¯º < 1377102830 654379 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^a < 1377102830 800170 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : ... < 1377102835 739297 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a... nice CTCP request? < 1377102838 552423 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently hackego is sending a unicode ? of some kind o_O < 1377102850 527847 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Very oerjany CTCP request. < 1377102864 454524 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e NOTICE #esoteric :ping 0 < 1377102902 315383 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^languages < 1377102905 605379 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if I want to save that "a". < 1377102947 289895 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def a bf +++++++++++++[.] < 1377102947 434831 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1377102950 5845 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^a < 1377102950 151612 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :............................................................................................................................................................................................................... ... < 1377102964 639630 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are supposed to be newlines < 1377102965 662903 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The built-in ^def only fires if there's a space after the command (it checks for "^def "), so plain "^def" hits the def'd def. < 1377102976 603771 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: For obvious reasons they get filtered. < 1377102999 505916 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^save < 1377102999 688159 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1377103000 106864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: oh hm HackEgo prepends a zero-width space for botloop prevention < 1377103011 300892 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 QUIT :Quit: Later! < 1377103025 269694 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def a bf [][[][]][[][ < 1377103025 414961 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mismatched []. < 1377103028 879278 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh :( < 1377103039 749183 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def a bf [+] < 1377103039 896679 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1377103043 558383 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^a < 1377103051 188851 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def a bf [+-] < 1377103051 334264 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1377103054 633381 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^a < 1377103057 618203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? macaroni < 1377103059 113519 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :macaroni? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377103059 488155 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               | < 1377103059 685434 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             º¯`\o < 1377103063 882817 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def a bf [+-]. < 1377103064 27786 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1377103065 757692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? *** < 1377103066 762680 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^a < 1377103067 241788 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​***? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377103067 586338 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1377103067 795373 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         º¯`\o < 1377103077 571177 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot :( < 1377103077 805693 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: when you try to use that < 1377103079 755813 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is with all the bot spam the past few days? < 1377103080 237721 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: makes sense, script doesn't understand zero width spaces though < 1377103086 983453 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: [...] at the start of a program will never run. < 1377103095 520882 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def a bf .[+-]. < 1377103095 665644 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1377103096 952572 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1377103098 374286 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^a < 1377103099 916185 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :it assumes a unicode character is 1 block wide in monospace font < 1377103106 776982 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^a < 1377103107 713188 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should be able to filter it out < 1377103108 957964 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it fungot < 1377103109 613778 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: http://xs128.xs.to/ xs128/ 08266/ picture5214.png the circularity is definitely there restricted to what i like so much fun < 1377103110 436514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: myndzi is fixing his script < 1377103113 844165 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :FEFF right? < 1377103132 170591 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377103137 971928 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Having a . in front of the [] will not make it run either. A ".[+-]." is equivalent to "..". < 1377103144 408877 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what are the suport languages < 1377103150 296569 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is your favorite esolang? < 1377103152 756662 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*supported < 1377103153 523476 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Just brainfuck and Underload. < 1377103155 3227 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1377103155 147862 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^<lang> <code>; ^def <command> <lang> <code>; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1377103168 990718 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1377103169 717198 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show whatisthis < 1377103170 733600 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377103171 74773 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        | < 1377103171 260730 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69      º¯`\o < 1377103174 292533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord > ​* < 1377103175 752096 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :62 32 8203 42 < 1377103176 920658 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well ok. but I meant before that too. < 1377103190 400121 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool < 1377103190 544708 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1377103191 867828 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377103192 798148 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool < 1377103192 942749 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1377103193 661029 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm spamming mostly to myself but i don't know quite how to reproduce the above output < 1377103194 113756 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1377103199 285115 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: It shows a command. < 1377103200 393953 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show < 1377103200 538925 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo reverb rev rot13 rev2 fib wc ul cho choo pow2 source help hw srmlebac uenlsbcmra scramble unscramble asc ord prefixes tmp test celebrate wiki chr ha rainbow rainbow2 welcome me tell eval elikoski list ping def a < 1377103200 976165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> showHex 8203 "" < 1377103201 121113 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't appear to be a zero width space < 1377103202 650019 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "200b" < 1377103205 628300 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show wc < 1377103205 772941 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :[] < 1377103209 949241 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show cho < 1377103210 152167 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>,[>,]<[<]>[[.>]<[<]>[-]>] < 1377103211 826379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: 200B actually < 1377103218 381372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What's that wc for?) < 1377103219 266578 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^wiki hm < 1377103219 411361 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/hm < 1377103227 404552 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow a < 1377103227 549098 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :02a < 1377103231 869144 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow < 1377103234 482138 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377103235 18941 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1377103235 455283 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow something < 1377103235 600035 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :02s03o04m05e06t07h08i09n02g < 1377103239 172240 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :feff is zero-width non-breaking < 1377103243 59726 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the hell < 1377103249 204627 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def something as something < 1377103249 349406 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: ^def <command> <lang> <code> < 1377103260 539106 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow This is actually nice. It reminds me of `relcome, which is not so nice after all. < 1377103260 771692 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :02T03h04i05s06 07i08s09 02a03c04t05u06a07l08l09y02 03n04i05c06e07.08 09I02t03 04r05e06m07i08n09d02s03 04m05e06 07o08f09 02`03r04e05l06c07o08m09e02,03 04w05 ... < 1377103272 869840 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^hw mh < 1377103273 52114 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World! < 1377103283 803583 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^pow2 123456789 < 1377103284 125922 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 256 512 1024 2048 4096 8192 16384 32768 65536 131072 262144 524288 1048576 2097152 4194304 8388608 16777216 33554432 67108864 134217728 268435456 536870912 1073741824 2147483648 42949672 ... < 1377103290 101424 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^relcome ~echo ^rainbow < 1377103294 596199 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^pow2 -1 < 1377103294 865046 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 256 512 1024 2048 4096 8192 16384 32768 65536 131072 262144 524288 1048576 2097152 4194304 8388608 16777216 33554432 67108864 134217728 268435456 536870912 1073741824 2147483648 42949672 ... < 1377103301 383335 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't take any input. < 1377103314 986808 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^elikoski < 1377103315 318069 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :eliott elliot eliott eliott elliot elliott eliot elliot eliott elliot elliot eliott eliott elliot eliott eliot elliot elliott eliott elliot eliott eliott elliot elliot eliott eliot elliott eliott elliot eliott eliott elliot elliott eliot elliot eliott eliott elliot elliot eliott elliot elliott eliot elliot elliott eliott e ...too much output! < 1377103319 734401 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1377103323 936332 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did I do < 1377103326 41694 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome ~echo rainbow < 1377103328 478015 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​12~echo: rai11nbow: Wel09com12e to08 the internati09on06al hub 12for esoteric programming language12 design and dep08loyment! For more infor13mation, check13 out our 12wiki: http13://09eso11langs05.org/wiki/Main_Page03. 02(For04 th04e o03ther ki09n09d09 of esote03rica, try #esoteric o02n07 irc.dal.net.) < 1377103329 734275 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :perchance can someone verify this supposed zero width space? mirc debug output is showing â? which isn't right < 1377103338 424649 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww, the : messes it up =P < 1377103356 764003 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ignore me < 1377103361 843423 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :what nonsense < 1377103362 468659 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow `relcome Test... < 1377103362 614453 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :02`03r04e05l06c07o08m09e02 03T04e05s06t07.08.09. < 1377103372 261448 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can it display ascii bytes AND unicode :| < 1377103386 387173 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo `relcome Test... < 1377103386 532164 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Test... `relcome Test... < 1377103389 146873 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07Test...: `05relcome: Te04st...: Welcome05 t04o t05he int04ernationa02l hub for esoteric program08ming language de04sig10n and de08ploym10ent! For more information, c04he05ck out our wiki09: http://esolangs.o07rg/wi13ki/M02ain_Page. (For the other kin13d11 of esoter02ica, try09 #esoteric on11 irc.da14l.net.)08 < 1377103423 548567 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: My logs say the raw bytes are e2 80 8b which is the correct UTF-8 of U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE, as far as I can tell. < 1377103439 966664 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, improper assumption on my part < 1377103470 677468 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :or some sort of mangling because it looks like i'm getting 3882 < 1377103471 644616 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1377103512 257157 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiple levels of mangling even, can't trust clipboard or debug output either :( < 1377103534 347125 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo ^echo hi < 1377103534 491753 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo hi ^echo hi < 1377103545 337069 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad, it ignores itself < 1377103551 440861 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: admit that was a nice try < 1377103559 596065 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't ignore itself. < 1377103560 943979 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, i imagine any client that supports ZWS also supports chr(15) < 1377103563 466963 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just not how the IRC protocol works < 1377103570 469901 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is an easier bot-loop protector imo < 1377103584 339921 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so i tdoes ignore itself < 1377103587 552257 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1377103588 571190 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Btw, the IRC protocol works in a sucky way.) < 1377103591 216948 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :the irc server never sends a message < 1377103596 250038 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :that comes "from" the bot < 1377103597 256806 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the bot < 1377103600 883391 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, so it gets ignored < 1377103603 453372 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo %echo hi < 1377103603 598535 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :%echo hi %echo hi < 1377103603 743218 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi %echo hi < 1377103607 807505 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION facepalms < 1377103608 772730 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crap < 1377103614 289032 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1377103615 538377 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1377103617 870608 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignore implies it was sent and nothing was done about it < 1377103621 904471 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“which is an easier bot-loop protector imo” How about just following the RFC hth < 1377103622 100122 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't sent at all < 1377103625 835459 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo ^echo `echo hi < 1377103626 984004 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^echo `echo hi < 1377103632 255963 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: The RFC is last millennium hth < 1377103633 447813 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: send all bot responses to the channel as notices? :P < 1377103636 529307 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo %echo ~echo ^echo Hai < 1377103637 787404 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​%echo ~echo ^echo Hai < 1377103643 328165 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1377103644 319960 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, fungot doesn't respond to hackego < 1377103644 663827 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: also what about newlib? aren't non-lambda rhs just normal " arguments" to be different. < 1377103648 163866 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That fucking character < 1377103657 51351 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody responds to HackEgo < 1377103667 987319 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It follows that HackEgo must be a jerk < 1377103669 383744 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should just follow the RFC < 1377103669 886768 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: time to make a bot that does < 1377103680 112718 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Challenge accepted < 1377103683 272023 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it should change names often so fizzie can't ignore it < 1377103687 131855 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And furthermore make your bot strip invisible characters when accepting commands < 1377103687 907622 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What does the RFC say? < 1377103692 836241 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1377103694 274441 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure < 1377103701 863720 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1377103703 865226 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377103704 222741 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69       | < 1377103704 394825 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69     o/`¯º < 1377103708 467779 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ~echo < 1377103710 21736 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​~echo? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377103710 456379 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1377103710 600862 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          o/`¯º < 1377103711 807144 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1377103714 83716 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh raw binary output < 1377103720 707745 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I'll work on it < 1377103723 661769 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stripping stuff < 1377103733 126315 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure Emily can strip if I try hard enough < 1377103733 772638 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have so many crazy scripts < 1377103735 147158 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :58 72 97 99 107 69 103 111 33 100 108 111 112 101 110 64 108 105 98 100 108 46 115 111 32 80 82 73 86 77 83 71 32 35 101 115 111 116 101 114 105 99 32 58 226 128 139 63 32 194 175 92 40 194 176 95 111 41 47 194 175 13 10 < 1377103739 266288 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's the line < 1377103782 165047 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :226 128 139 is indeed e2 80 8b. < 1377103788 35594 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1377103800 221845 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminded me of another script i never loaded though < 1377103800 993115 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from lunch! my absence spontaneified myndzi! < 1377103802 497681 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm finding it :P < 1377103807 511522 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be NICK :FungotAnnoy < 1377103808 858002 :FungotAnnoy!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1377103816 192125 :FungotAnnoy!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be NICK :AnotherTest < 1377103825 49466 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok I was hopping for some really bad programming < 1377103828 193465 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even remember what it's called < 1377103830 700942 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1377103841 591289 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will write this bot < 1377103841 847092 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What part of the RFC should I be following again? < 1377103846 269407 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Even if it did look at the nick, it's case-sensitive about its name. < 1377103850 151908 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in revenge of samamntus) < 1377103857 843365 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be NICK :fungot_annoy < 1377103859 366791 :fungot_annoy!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1377103864 903298 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It doesn't look at the nick.) < 1377103865 71439 :fungot_annoy!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be NICK :AnotherTest < 1377103866 231364 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1377103873 539452 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It was just a hypothetical.) < 1377103884 653205 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: soon samantus shall be revenged < 1377103885 847491 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :roujo: The RFC specifies PRIVMSG as the human message command and NOTICE as the bot message command. Bots are only allowed to trigger stuff from human messages and send stuff as bot messages. Therefore, no bot loops ever. As an additional bonus you can easily skip over the low-priority bot messages in a discussion when your IRC client e.g. colors them differently. Unfortunately, certain IRC clients default < 1377103887 183115 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :to making a huge show about NOTICEs even though they are the low-priority messages, and not enough users bother to report it as a bug or even to change their configuration, but they do bother to make a huge noise about it on IRC whenever bots do the right thing. So we have ended up in a situation where many bots just use PRIVMSG and have nasty hacks that may or may not work to prevent bot loops. < 1377103888 976836 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: i presume he's referring to automated responses should be notices and requests that trigger them should be privmsg < 1377103909 132931 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: TL;DR hth < 1377103920 571643 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: And I suggest actually following the RFC instead < 1377103929 650195 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If your client is broken then you need to get a different client < 1377103930 12814 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: myndzi: zzo38: Nice, nice. Thanks. < 1377103948 922709 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: Yes < 1377103978 712030 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: ("many bots" is perhaps a bit of an understatement, it's probably really "most".) < 1377104013 847542 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, why was I unashamedly CTCPed? < 1377104025 339352 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :also lol @ ion < 1377104034 940836 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's fungot's fault < 1377104035 319006 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: i don't know if it's believable to have hayfever in march. < 1377104035 961890 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the excessive botspam starts showing up in NOTICE colour I will be sorely tempted to /part. < 1377104038 230886 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorta like people complaining about highlights but even less egregious < 1377104046 255264 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1377104064 30225 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ENABLED THIS FEATURE OF MY CLIENT/SCRIPT AND IT'S DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO, STOP USING IT < 1377104071 705088 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377104133 556750 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: Wait what? < 1377104160 245767 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :In terminals with ANSI colors, a good color for notices is the “bright black” a.k.a. dark gray. < 1377104183 376332 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least if you have a dark background color. < 1377104191 820198 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: it is common in some groups of people on irc to complain about "over-using highlights" < 1377104202 842830 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a client feature that alerts the user when some matching text (usually their name) is sent < 1377104204 401128 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rofl < 1377104205 495116 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1377104217 855800 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering what you were referring to, that's all ^^ < 1377104224 645323 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP HIGHLIGHTING ME GUYS < 1377104226 697423 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITS ANNOYING < 1377104228 817373 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they don't want that they should change the configure of your client (or change your name, if that is the problem) < 1377104234 564158 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B02DEDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1377104234 708955 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: But it's fuuuuuun < 1377104237 78366 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom < 1377104238 707646 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead. < 1377104244 987639 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :very lol, imo. < 1377104247 756200 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1377104249 148446 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :asshole.mrc < 1377104251 387277 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what's in this one < 1377104258 42172 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Death < 1377104261 845075 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHA < 1377104264 993072 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot < 1377104269 799208 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :in #scripting on dalnet one time < 1377104282 909392 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dalnet??? worst network < 1377104283 546947 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote this script that kicked anybody who didn't follow the instructions given in the topic < 1377104291 882273 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if they repeated it banned them < 1377104299 110028 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`/bin/ls wisdom < 1377104300 226548 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `? \ _̰̆̓_̦̻̖͍̟̖̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_̯͙̬̬̦̯͂͋͒ͧ͋̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞ \ ? \ ?? \ @ \ ⊥ \ ⌨ \ ☃ \ 🐐 \ ̸̸̼͚͇̮͕̳̞̤̜̯̪̪̱̣̠̺̹͍̩̝͚͕͓͚̙͓̪̮̟̜̣͙̪̂ͭ̎̏̔ͦ͒ͪ͌̾ͦͨ̚̚͢͢͠ͅ҉̴̢_͙̣͎͎͙̪̪̝̖͉̟̭̻̥̫̗̱̗͍̳̦̮̟̲̥͔̿̊ͣ̉ͣͪ͒̓̐͊̏ͫ̓̚̚҉̕͜͠͠҉̡̧̛ < 1377104304 576445 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :else kick $chan $nick Hey, maybe you can catch the topic on your way back in! < 1377104305 182823 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1377104309 482421 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see any names. < 1377104332 608164 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: there are more lines. < 1377104333 763504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: they've been shuffled out by all the weird unicode < 1377104334 443878 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: heh < 1377104339 275527 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run /bin/ls wisdom | tail < 1377104340 647124 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome.bork \ welcome.es \ wercome \ west midlands \ wiki \ wisdom \ wisisis "This isn't an actual wisdom, just a tribute." \ you \ zomgmodules \ zzo38 < 1377104348 156833 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :look, it's you! < 1377104352 968358 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? you < 1377104354 820167 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :you a haskell < 1377104361 467256 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes, it doesn't matter < 1377104362 430762 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1377104371 547362 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisisis < 1377104372 452379 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see "you" < 1377104373 169863 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisisis? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377104373 555327 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              | < 1377104373 747536 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            º¯`\o < 1377104382 178549 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisisis "This isn't an actual wisdom, just a tribute." < 1377104383 719890 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisisis "This isn't an actual wisdom, just a tribute."? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377104384 68267 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                                             | < 1377104384 288165 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                                           o/`¯º < 1377104387 504893 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing. < 1377104402 241383 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run /bin/ls wisdom | shuf < 1377104403 929083 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :misspellings of croissant \ 🐐 \ bc \ cyberiad \ firefly \ context \ egobot \ northumberland \ thyme \ megalun \ phantom___hoover \ partial order \ d \ sgeo \ object \ maths \ ☃ \ résumé \ isomorphism \ devious \ hello \ inverness \ gazspacho \ itidus21 \ eurovision \ mojibake \ lettuce \ internationale \ everyone \ elliott \ bird \ nah \ cak < 1377104461 194069 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377104474 745389 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :croissant! c'est juste des croissants! ÇA SE MISSPELLE PAS, UN CROISSANT! AAAAAAAAAAARRRRGH! < 1377104492 142050 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure! < 1377104496 627258 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :croisant < 1377104497 977999 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1377104499 42956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? misspellings of croissant < 1377104501 389778 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :misspellings of crosant? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377104501 761998 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                              | < 1377104501 939166 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                            º¯`\o < 1377104505 64331 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rofl < 1377104507 398708 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE WE GO < 1377104513 719031 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slaps Roujo with a French pastry < 1377104519 866817 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :%slap boily < 1377104520 11397 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slaps boily around with a large trout. < 1377104521 290303 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dear god, can we please leave the bots alone for one hour. < 1377104526 934602 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure =P < 1377104532 430149 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It’s #esoteric. What do you think? < 1377104540 153760 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: indeed :/ < 1377104547 518548 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally found it < 1377104550 826320 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: we will behave. I'm on a meeting for about the next hour, so no abuse from me. < 1377104553 508424 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :58 72 97 99 107 69 < 1377104574 857902 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose i have to load first < 1377104582 638721 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :58 72 97 99 107 69 < 1377104586 423529 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:02.41 (myndzi; b10) :HackE < 1377104588 508187 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1377104593 400837 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :automatic base conversion ftw < 1377104631 337086 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :58 72 97 99 107 69 < 1377104637 363353 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's local display < 1377104639 576182 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1377104642 210425 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, cool < 1377104645 739293 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1377104645 884258 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can make a trigger i suppose :P < 1377104650 229507 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, i have one < 1377104650 786998 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1377104652 18987 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1377104653 571119 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :!debase 58 72 97 99 107 69 103 111 33 100 108 111 112 101 110 64 108 105 98 100 108 46 115 111 32 80 82 73 86 77 83 71 32 35 101 115 111 116 101 114 105 99 32 58 226 128 139 63 32 194 175 92 40 194 176 95 111 41 47 194 175 13 10 < 1377104654 756835 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :debase (base 10): :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377104655 186392 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                                                          | < 1377104656 138235 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                                                        º¯`\o < 1377104672 333761 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll take any base from 2 to 36 < 1377104676 776766 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :delimited or padded < 1377104822 759947 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377104899 425922 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :final test? < 1377104900 39308 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1377104901 738849 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377104902 112279 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69       | < 1377104902 313590 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69     º¯`\o < 1377104907 535316 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1377104922 720094 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll deal with the other thing some other time (god knows why shit's misaligned above) < 1377104926 869780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quiche < 1377104928 403676 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :quiche? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377104928 827845 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1377104928 997251 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           o/`¯º < 1377105580 675778 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377105587 107737 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1377105600 49469 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow [19:15:48] <HackEgo> misspellings of croissant \ < 1377105612 703874 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :is highlighted as to have nickpinged me.. < 1377105634 736819 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eyes weechat < 1377105733 157721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yes, it contains your nick later in the line < 1377105868 492232 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'm not getting the line rendered correctly then. Here's what I see: http://i.imgur.com/WMxSuhJ.png < 1377105924 813761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: the next item is a unicode character, possibly the infamous goat < 1377105933 599685 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :<HackEgo> misspellings of croissant \ PROBABLY_A_GOAT \ bc \ cyberiad \ firefly \ context \ egobot \ northumberland \ thyme \ megalun \ phantom___hoover \ partial order \ d \ sgeo \ object \ maths \ ☃ \ résumé \ isomorphism \ devious \ hello \ inverness \ gazspacho \ itidus21 \ eurovision \ mojibake \ lettuce \ internationale \ everyone \ elliott \ bird \ nah \ cak < 1377105944 689812 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1377105998 72141 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? misspellings of croissant < 1377106000 9337 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :misspellings of crosant? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377106000 416674 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                              | < 1377106000 605518 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                            º¯`\o < 1377106006 437800 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well played. < 1377106027 545660 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cyberiad < 1377106029 205374 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Cyberiad is not just a book. < 1377106040 11467 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gazspacho < 1377106041 821723 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :gazspacho is a hungarian szoup, tradizsonally szerved cold for hot szummer dayz < 1377106229 147489 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a C library for a MUD and which is cross-platform and FSF/OSI compatible? < 1377106265 907404 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think any muds come in library form < 1377106278 915830 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i do know that dead souls is the closest lpc thing to rom < 1377106284 518936 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is under active development last i checked < 1377106295 280922 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno how cross platform it is but i believe it runs on windows too < 1377106297 829745 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not sure if cygwin) < 1377106310 923149 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dead-souls.net/ < 1377106315 619916 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, it calls it a library right there < 1377106316 751371 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :o well < 1377106337 976460 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :also LPC is a hell of a lot cooler than anything ROM derivatives can offer < 1377106366 409949 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think what most people have in mind by 'MUD' is more ROM-style (hack and slash & grinding etc. not social/roleplaying) < 1377106375 5178 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why i'm glad dead souls exists :) < 1377106381 28477 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean one that does both really < 1377106393 103484 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :a code base < 1377106395 514904 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I intend to modify to penalize too much grinding < 1377106404 19604 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should definitely check out DS < 1377106422 769871 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean one that does (hack and slash & grinding etc. *and* social/roleplaying) but that can be modified < 1377106425 827940 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rooms and interactions are programmed in a mud-specific variant of C inside the game itself < 1377106430 734851 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1377106445 834093 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with rom is it's really hard to extend in dynamic ways < 1377106449 652787 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When searching I found a whole bunch of broken links mostly < 1377106462 363452 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about as complex as ms-dos batch in terms of scripting mob interactions and the like < 1377106473 539275 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :lpc gives you a whole array of tools (like variables) < 1377106474 255028 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1377106487 509631 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :it comes from MOO territory though, which is more .. esoteric? < 1377106498 777485 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :most moos don't have any sort of setting/combat/leveling system < 1377106506 331956 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why lots of mud players stick to rom variants < 1377106528 728836 :FungotDestroyer!~FungotDes@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377106555 299659 :FungotDestroyer!~FungotDes@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377106577 441979 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :also interesting is that dead souls hooks up to a sort of meta-mud chatline, so you can basically chat with the devs from your own mud and whatever as you work on stuff < 1377106605 329527 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be honest i wish i had the time or motivation to play with it more ;( < 1377106610 358636 :FungotDestroyer!~FungotDes@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377106623 290023 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1377106627 944347 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FungotDestroyer: what < 1377106635 372269 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what < 1377106635 663423 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is your name?" " because it sucks. < 1377106644 787504 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck. do the destruction < 1377106647 911023 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo ^echo ^echo < 1377106652 702096 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^echo ^echo < 1377106658 528996 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1377106665 547622 :FungotDestroyer!~FungotDes@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377106668 29390 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ignore < 1377106669 463578 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so if you do go that route, leave me a message or something, i'd be interested to check it out) < 1377106674 179112 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn'nt quite work yet < 1377106694 725299 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377106734 382748 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dare I ask what it is meant to do? < 1377106736 207290 :FungotDestroyer!~FungotDes@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377106738 347414 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo ^echo ^echo < 1377106739 275127 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^echo ^echo < 1377106750 233004 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impressive < 1377106752 728660 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1377106758 278846 :FungotDestroyer!~FungotDes@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377106789 978454 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since some players might not want some things I put it, I can make it options one thing I want to add is a "difficulty menu", so that you can add "balanced experience" (meaning that if you defeat anyone of a lower level than you then you lose experience points instead) < 1377106801 437391 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AIUI, it's some sort of a revenge. < 1377106811 274201 :FungotDestroyer!~FungotDes@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377106812 874502 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the revenge of the samantus < 1377106828 722416 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo ^echo ^echo < 1377106829 881542 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^echo ^echo < 1377106853 530785 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually just trying to reply to hackego, since there doesn't exist a bot yet that replies to it < 1377106864 942692 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely sure what fungot has done to earn the revenge, but "w/e". < 1377106865 835089 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: a mean, despicable, boorish person; used the following words to describe it in english?) instances where the compiler can't make their use more transparent. while you're at such relevant topics. < 1377106870 913766 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give me a second =P < 1377106991 725452 :FungotDestroyer!~FungotDes@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377107010 202811 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377107014 954987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: You're on your own. < 1377107029 570175 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know entirely what you have in mind, but considering the source channel it may prove interesting ;) < 1377107036 875528 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :my biggest complaint with muds has always been how formulaic they are < 1377107040 433956 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :not dynamic at all < 1377107041 341418 :FungotDestroyer!~FungotDes@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377107048 546499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1377107051 528921 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I know that too < 1377107052 237545 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo ^echo ^echo < 1377107053 306198 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was some mud that aol ran/hosted for the longest time < 1377107053 451336 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^echo ^echo < 1377107053 749430 :FungotDestroyer!~FungotDes@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^echo ^echo < 1377107057 891851 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was actually crazy interesting < 1377107069 71906 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's still up, dragon realms or some such? you have to subscribe < 1377107078 889896 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo `echo < 1377107080 182732 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`echo < 1377107080 815640 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a somethingawful thread that introduced it that i can't seem to find anymore < 1377107085 629424 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo ^`echo < 1377107086 818712 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^`echo < 1377107087 286040 :FungotDestroyer!~FungotDes@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^`echo < 1377107090 838366 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried various other MUD but none of them are very good < 1377107094 437443 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it described all the interesting ways they added some of that dynamism into it < 1377107095 760388 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1377107101 77137 :FungotDestroyer!~FungotDes@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377107104 561330 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ < 1377107121 849852 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think a difficulty menu would be good idea < 1377107124 907968 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you want to write your own codebase, the best you can do is go with one that gives you good tools < 1377107135 43810 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i heartily recommend you avoid rom, rot, etc. < 1377107140 886097 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1377107157 361297 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUD_trees < 1377107173 489476 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :aber is kind of an oddball from what i remember < 1377107177 33985 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if I do write my own codebase, what would help is some library < 1377107185 644009 :FungotDestroyer!~FungotDes@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377107190 862335 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo < 1377107191 199266 :FungotDestroyer!~FungotDes@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo echo < 1377107192 162283 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377107199 628422 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :``echo < 1377107199 914261 :FungotDestroyer!~FungotDes@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo `echo < 1377107200 905216 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`echo < 1377107201 50916 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `echo: not found < 1377107201 416975 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :do investigate dead souls < 1377107205 993889 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The library to automatically handle connections, database, changes at runtime, registration, and those kind of things. < 1377107211 385180 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :``echo ``echo < 1377107211 689344 :FungotDestroyer!~FungotDes@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo ``echo `echo ``echo < 1377107212 603618 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `echo: not found < 1377107212 787905 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​``echo `echo ``echo < 1377107215 287337 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you realise it's trivial to make a bot loop if you make a bot specifically to do so. < 1377107217 267367 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it'll do what you want if you are able to work with its system < 1377107233 101689 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it has the extensibility < 1377107236 478398 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm not *just* trying to make a bot loop < 1377107255 53120 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :``echo `echo < 1377107255 430106 :FungotDestroyer!~FungotDes@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo `echo `echo `echo < 1377107256 67277 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `echo: not found < 1377107256 448750 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`echo `echo `echo < 1377107264 416987 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sure looks like just a bot loop < 1377107276 366599 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :``echo `echo ^echo < 1377107276 832732 :FungotDestroyer!~FungotDes@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo `echo ^echo `echo `echo ^echo < 1377107277 359148 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `echo: not found < 1377107277 998056 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`echo ^echo `echo `echo ^echo < 1377107327 285441 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :``echo# < 1377107327 697065 :FungotDestroyer!~FungotDes@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo# `echo# < 1377107328 234825 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `echo#: not found < 1377107328 696673 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: echo#: not found < 1377107344 873418 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :``echo echo < 1377107345 289385 :FungotDestroyer!~FungotDes@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo echo `echo echo < 1377107345 992902 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `echo: not found < 1377107346 495937 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo `echo echo < 1377107352 73617 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok seriously the spam is annoying. < 1377107354 423568 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :``echo `echo < 1377107354 780822 :FungotDestroyer!~FungotDes@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo `echo `echo `echo < 1377107355 657061 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `echo: not found < 1377107356 13314 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`echo `echo `echo < 1377107358 533691 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright < 1377107361 194922 :FungotDestroyer!~FungotDes@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377107373 604723 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is license of Dead Souls MUD? < 1377107382 708223 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i linked the url above, one sec < 1377107387 672563 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how fungot wasn't involved there at all, despite the name. < 1377107387 918899 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it is to be able to < 1377107391 676102 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dead-souls.net/ < 1377107394 34895 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :got spammed out :P < 1377107442 568645 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lpmuds.net/copyright.mudos < 1377107463 861077 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :%quit < 1377107464 39265 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Alright, off I go! < 1377107466 961460 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 QUIT :Quit: Later! < 1377107494 101877 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377107514 648783 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dead-souls.net/articles/copyright.html < 1377107516 261215 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :more useful link < 1377107518 794042 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377107532 636582 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377107538 67531 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo < 1377107539 614755 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're on < 1377107551 691897 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo %echo Take that! < 1377107552 880206 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​%echo Take that! < 1377107557 731921 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to connect but it seems I cannot disable ANSI codes < 1377107558 52003 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>nope < 1377107560 34762 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well crap < 1377107604 218036 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: it's not just regular spaces < 1377107628 958784 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :%echo hi < 1377107629 106561 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1377107635 64578 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1377107636 190359 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1377107645 188713 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I was stripping everything I needed to =P < 1377107648 314665 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`test < 1377107649 638528 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377107651 650749 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :%echo ^echo %echo hi < 1377107651 796299 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo %echo hi < 1377107651 946049 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :%echo hi %echo hi < 1377107652 756074 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi %echo hi < 1377107660 391344 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right fungot duplicates < 1377107660 788786 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: fnord/ tmp/ fnord whee, dependency graphs! http://www.spinnoff.com/ zbb/ fnord/ fnord < 1377107684 842904 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there one with a FSF/OSI compatible license (or one that has a UNIX version which is this and is completely compatible with the Windows version)? < 1377107691 216018 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1377107691 362445 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^<lang> <code>; ^def <command> <lang> <code>; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1377107694 677197 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show < 1377107694 824672 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo reverb rev rot13 rev2 fib wc ul cho choo pow2 source help hw srmlebac uenlsbcmra scramble unscramble asc ord prefixes tmp test celebrate wiki chr ha rainbow rainbow2 welcome me tell eval elikoski list ping def a something < 1377107704 998834 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what the character is, though < 1377107741 892703 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :remove everythign that's not ascii < 1377107755 512249 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I think I'll whitelist instead < 1377107758 530895 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^eval hi < 1377107762 689927 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep only A-z0-9 < 1377107767 100603 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^test < 1377107774 520739 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^test a < 1377107859 520059 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :%echo ^eval hi < 1377107859 679384 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^eval hi < 1377107886 395237 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^str hm < 1377107886 540688 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text] < 1377107891 757251 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^str 9 < 1377107891 904228 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text] < 1377107936 78448 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :dan200 < 1377107939 932203 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^str 1 set %echo ^str 1 get < 1377107940 80181 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Set: %echo ^str 1 get < 1377107955 78252 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^str 1 get < 1377107955 240273 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :%echo ^str 1 get < 1377107955 392708 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^str 1 get < 1377107955 392892 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :%echo ^str 1 get < 1377107956 302889 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^str 1 get < 1377107956 457622 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :%echo ^str 1 get < 1377107957 299023 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^str 1 get < 1377107957 443858 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :%echo ^str 1 get < 1377107958 285281 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^str 1 get < 1377107958 432647 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :%echo ^str 1 get < 1377107959 318958 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^str 1 get < 1377107959 466878 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :%echo ^str 1 get < 1377107959 744801 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1377107960 299764 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^str 1 get < 1377107960 448792 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :%echo ^str 1 get < 1377107961 295063 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^str 1 get < 1377107961 443483 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :%echo ^str 1 get < 1377107962 45278 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :elliott > 1377107962 338365 NAMES :#esoteric < 1377107962 343936 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^str 1 get < 1377107962 493969 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :%echo ^str 1 get < 1377107963 3287 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric :+m > 1377107963 23535 NAMES :#esoteric < 1377107967 15226 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric :-m > 1377107967 44287 NAMES :#esoteric < 1377108019 328147 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1377108022 928724 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot loop? < 1377108025 558204 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops =P < 1377108089 265884 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, although elliott intervened < 1377108091 978451 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: Is there a better one? < 1377108110 559272 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :%quit < 1377108110 745917 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Alright, off I go! < 1377108113 661861 :Emilie!~Emily@192.210.145.119 QUIT :Quit: Later! < 1377108132 641555 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meetings have interesting side-effects. elliott is now op. < 1377108140 548389 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :pls nerf < 1377108144 26 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're going to do more of them, at least make them creative quines instead of just relying on external storage :p < 1377108152 191718 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1377108156 303741 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will try < 1377108206 442673 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not looking for that level of library; I am looking for lower level library which is dealing with connections and so on. < 1377108261 257395 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i don't know. muds are actually quite complex beasts < 1377108275 123374 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :to my understanding, most of the available code comes in the form of a code base + patches perhaps < 1377108291 167736 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :lower level than that, and you lose the mud-specificity < 1377108291 554177 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -o :elliott > 1377108291 577059 NAMES :#esoteric < 1377108301 157752 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd be looking for a 'user management library' or whatever the heck < 1377108302 641522 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377108358 41975 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I am looking for FSF/OSI compliant runtime engine (or at least one where a 100% compatible UNIX version is) < 1377108392 188829 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377108403 338873 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the runtime engine I am looking for and not the mudlib < 1377108426 417866 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you could certainly write your own mudlib < 1377108434 79737 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lot of code to work with < 1377108450 185961 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of lp muds are written IN lpc < 1377108460 702897 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe the driver is closer to what you're looking for < 1377108499 245579 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :while I still have some active neurons left in my brain and can form some coherent stuff, and just realized myndzi has been active for the past few hours... < 1377108514 990541 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: let me ask you the The Question: what are your approximate coördinates and body weigh? < 1377108518 936120 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :har < 1377108530 444515 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :har? < 1377108532 185959 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm 'around' irc quite a bit, i just don't have an awful lot to contribute to this channel < 1377108548 954369 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll put in 'around' and 'unknown' < 1377108579 601822 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should say, i'm actively present on irc most of the day most of the time :P < 1377108609 229951 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i originally came here to play around with bf joust, but you guys talk about interesting stuff < 1377108617 603424 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have practically no interest in esoteric programming languages howere ;) < 1377108619 882633 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :however* < 1377108626 461755 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: "around" and "har". < 1377108652 117888 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, i totally missed the second line < 1377108653 320601 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1377108659 475914 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad timing < 1377108693 190146 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :47.272986,-120.882277 and ~ 190 :P < 1377108750 331111 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION falls from his chair in pure astonishment < 1377108757 480389 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a complete and useful answer! < 1377108767 822633 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't much see how it's useful but *shrug* < 1377108780 104689 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have a box of chocolate delivered by ICBM for you. < 1377108794 810326 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :be sure to send me a tracking number < 1377108808 94873 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm still tempted to put 'har' for the weigh. < 1377108834 869166 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't get the units of the weigh. < 1377108841 866652 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :grams < 1377108843 233890 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :centimeters < 1377108853 705262 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gram-centimeters per ampere < 1377108857 869477 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you... weigh... 190 centimetres < 1377108865 933747 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :got a problem with that? < 1377108868 736831 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ow. < 1377108871 909626 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm also 25 KB/sec tall < 1377108881 445562 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION facepalms < 1377108899 630335 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no chocolate for you, you vile ununitter! < 1377108915 108340 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo < 1377108917 403057 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was dying to taste it. < 1377108924 150679 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, then... < 1377108937 409153 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, 47,-120, that sounds an awful lot like seattle, eh? < 1377108939 303375 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377108948 946639 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, that's a new one < 1377108962 707921 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :never met anyone who recognized gps coords on sight < 1377108967 47270 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, olympia < 1377108971 89585 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some to think of it, scratch that < 1377108978 280534 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome SingingBoyo < 1377108980 646772 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02SingingBoy06o:13 W12e08lcome to 05t07he i02n04ternatio12nal hub for esoteric 04prog10ramm07ing la08ngua14ge design and 05deployment! For more info07rma09tion, chec13k out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/w11iki/14Ma14in_P02age. (03For the other kind of esot06erica06, try #esoteric on04 irc.12d12al.ne02t.) < 1377108983 126570 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making Emily respond to HackEgo is breaking other stuff =P < 1377109016 487390 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is your bot even for < 1377109213 951667 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ù < 1377109215 967702 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :% < 1377109219 278545 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :%echo hi < 1377109222 765773 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's gone < 1377109246 190708 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo hi < 1377109246 431733 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1377109262 857012 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank' god < 1377109416 11137 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: so is the esoteric centroid presently in tacoma or something < 1377109417 690243 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank' :: (Divinity a) => (a -> a -> a) -> [a] -> a < 1377109436 476302 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: if I k-means it, probably one of them yes. < 1377109523 82068 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :active members are split around west coast, east coast, and scandinavia. < 1377109532 894913 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for all practical purposes, hexham is in Finland.) < 1377109577 225863 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and a few Belgians. again, Paris is in Belgium. < 1377109589 754604 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotcha < 1377109812 803807 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1377109908 40547 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp, what a surprise: printing doesn't work. < 1377110150 629950 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck welp < 1377110151 57039 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377110156 145280 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck kelp < 1377110156 528426 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kelp definition: any of various large brown seaweeds (order Laminariales). < 1377110200 960329 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn welp is humid kelp, and not at all related to toes, their hairs, and generic requests for TWHes and TDHes. < 1377110204 932109 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377110213 930937 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welp < 1377110215 911754 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp is humid kelp, and not at all related to toes, their hairs, and generic requests for TWHes and TDHes. < 1377110227 756241 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf and I went to the beach and we saw giant bull whip kelp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nereocystis) < 1377110244 812804 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've used the "pxlmono" driver with this before, how come it doesn't work now nyarrrr < 1377110276 219911 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :36 metres for a seaweed??? < 1377110284 736942 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1377110289 417826 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ones we saw were only 2 or 3 m though < 1377110396 359709 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you sample them? how do they taste like? < 1377110439 47610 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Switched drivers, now it's [stopped "Filter failed"]. Sigh. < 1377110459 369274 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck nyar < 1377110459 635690 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Software description: command line progress bar (C). < 1377110467 78674 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmhm < 1377110469 941426 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not know that. < 1377110487 510882 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same here. where the fungot does that come from. < 1377110487 767285 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is python a joke? ;p it might make sense < 1377110530 715913 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: WEEEEEEEEELP! < 1377110585 723398 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Nani? < 1377110642 417077 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: fungotが怖いんだぞ… < 1377110643 247248 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: so i guess a really savvy glass programmer could make some money, maybe start a home based business of a profiler to spot outright dead code. macro-generated code often has big swaths of it. i'd hate learning cobol and fortran just for getting wiki work. < 1377110645 378730 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, uh, I got out... something. It's hard to describe. < 1377110648 344223 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's got pixels in it. < 1377110656 49450 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :screenshot! < 1377110661 54944 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Picture! < 1377110668 599005 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :watercolour! < 1377110683 511684 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lithograph of fizzie's monitor < 1377110756 869223 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that sounds interesting, what is it? < 1377110806 55859 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"so i guess a really savvy glass programmer could make some money" < 1377110816 358816 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a scanner. I'll see if I can bother to take a picture of it after I actually get this printer working. < 1377110819 444868 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, "if".) < 1377110835 115954 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, is it pixelated? < 1377110863 811276 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know how it relates to the intended output at all. < 1377110868 593019 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's certainly something. < 1377110870 109153 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ouch < 1377110880 634397 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: a prophecy. who shall be the Chosen One to make it true? < 1377110884 346934 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it has darker and lighter regions. < 1377110931 15253 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well that is a start < 1377110954 174416 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, the ljet4 driver worked okay. < 1377110968 968856 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll go with that, though I don't really understand why the previously-working pxlmono would no longer work. < 1377110970 98790 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1377110980 74230 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :command line progress bars are great (I only know of pv, though) < 1377110989 550262 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, it is, you get a single pixel obviously (pixel mono) < 1377110995 520461 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's a Lexmark E232, and speaks some dialect of PCL 5c/5e/6.) < 1377111011 56321 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pickle < 1377111050 462437 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried AberMUD too but it won't compile < 1377111054 191081 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B02DEDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0/2013080200] < 1377111541 650050 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377111543 846765 :douglass!~douglass@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1377111551 950111 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing like a portion of coleslaw and a dill pickle on the side when you're having a nice smoked meat sandwich... < 1377111698 802949 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds good < 1377111702 424119 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUS < 1377111736 187702 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1377112240 685862 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377112524 615106 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another feature which would interested to me is that your character name is separate from your account name, so you can write on OOC and nobody will know who you are, for example < 1377112540 535489 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck ooc < 1377112540 966575 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377112542 7779 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: nice < 1377112557 703012 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bought a bunch of http://www.mcclurespickles.com/products/pickles < 1377112563 92973 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(OOC = out of character) < 1377112602 807498 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. that ooc. < 1377112679 980071 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: be sure to use rye bread for your sandwiches, and some «moutarde de meaux». < 1377112779 161380 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bien sûr < 1377112817 135956 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: This is what came out of Gutenprint: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130821-gutenprint.jpg < 1377112825 556951 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377112835 902931 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice! < 1377112907 947376 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130821-tmp.png -- except slightly modified for clearer grayscale printing -- was the source. < 1377112913 140847 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is beautiful. < 1377112947 311240 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :framed and hanged in an art gallery, this could reach probably something like 50~60 CAD. < 1377112968 651783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1377112985 587693 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The text near the top edge is from a previous misprint. < 1377112986 770227 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you could make a career out of buggy drivers. < 1377112991 9912 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes me think of a barcode < 1377113014 297022 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure it symbolizes something philosophical. some kind of struggle of the classes, or something. < 1377113125 383063 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I tried to scan it with my phone. it doesn't recognize nothing :( < 1377113172 32167 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an encrypted barcode. < 1377113239 501979 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey did you try taking the fourier transform < 1377113245 869318 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or inverse fourier transform) < 1377113327 693974 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377113342 17013 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: thanks for sending me that paper on privacy preserving bloom filters < 1377113355 159283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm only just now reading it, but it kicked off a chain of reading other interesting crypto papers < 1377113413 684527 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1377113606 669464 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377113754 965156 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesterday I learned Wolfram Alpha will give you the last few digits of astronomically large numbers like http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=7^%287^%287^7%29%29 < 1377113800 780441 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=graham%27s+number it doesn't do it for this :< < 1377113809 386895 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1377113828 683574 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia has the last 10 digits though < 1377113832 80523 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sniped by Fiora. < 1377113856 448117 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, W|A won't process “2↑3”. :( < 1377113905 908787 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I like the interpretation it gives, though. < 1377113928 561722 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: almost, but not quite, pas pantoute what I wanted. < 1377113945 814522 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://crypto.2013.rump.cr.yp.to/55e2988c4ed3c9f635c9a4c3f52fa0b1.pdf Taiwan has a national LDAP directory? o_O < 1377113971 154444 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I also tried “tetration(2, 3)”, “2 tetration 3”, “2 ^^ 3” and “2 *** 3”. < 1377114004 601047 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know one up-arrow is only exponentiation, but if it had went through, then 3↑↑↑↑3 :D) < 1377114052 18791 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: PowerTower[x,y] works for tetration in Mathematica, but apparently not in W|A. < 1377114056 410087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love this "download all the keys and GCD them" thing < 1377114065 831554 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf @ wolfram alpha's definition of graham's number < 1377114098 215569 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, wow < 1377114114 508948 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, is that letter at the top? < 1377114124 117714 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloklofok. < 1377114135 818746 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :letters even < 1377114139 12576 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently they didn't have time to read the fucking first line of wikipedia's corresponding entry < 1377114154 222488 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: They're from a previous misprint, I reused the paper. < 1377114156 850182 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok, hi! Long time since I talked to you. How are you? < 1377114167 653379 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: neat < 1377114169 771299 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, when it gave you letters instead of an image even? < 1377114206 263658 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: didn't you have that nifty webpage where you could graph peoples' presence? < 1377114213 823399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes. It used to do that in the old setup when there was a paper jam, if I tried to continue printing without canceling the job and starting a new one. < 1377114227 606964 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: nothing new i gues < 1377114228 443815 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1377114229 763245 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You mean somewhere in http://zem.fi/ircvis/esoteric/ ? < 1377114238 803998 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or how long ago did we talk last :P < 1377114244 894708 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yep. thanks! < 1377114245 923525 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, wow. That is one shaky driver < 1377114246 70797 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't updated them in a bit, I guess I could do it now. < 1377114258 218109 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok, Months? < 1377114302 395106 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I personally would recommend HP printers, the hplip driver work better under Linux than the official Windows drivers did < 1377114305 481879 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this month is my holiday, then i'm gonna try to finish my phd in a year or so < 1377114321 214262 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, might be worth thinking about if you get a new printer at some point < 1377114321 821228 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Well, one of them just said "Filter failed", waited a minute, then printed out a sheet of paper where there was just the line "**** Unable to open the initial device, quitting." < 1377114325 262941 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(after that, eternal unemployment i guess) < 1377114342 993484 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have you been up to? can you fly yet? < 1377114343 166553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: (One of the drivers, for this printer, I mean.) < 1377114345 651257 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: can I ask you the The Question? < 1377114348 103965 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1377114366 286415 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok, me? Nah. I only built one wing so far. < 1377114367 951204 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: what are your approximate coördinates and body weigh? < 1377114370 879645 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other one isn't ready < 1377114374 758488 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1377114384 276402 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, heh < 1377114386 222418 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i weigh 100kg < 1377114390 860104 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or very close < 1377114410 599950 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my approximate coördinates are N 60 27 E 22 17 i guess < 1377114418 466767 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks oklofok < 1377114419 566266 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, oklofok. Thoklofok. < 1377114478 617804 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? this was in the esoteric survey which i was too ashamed to answer because i like my own languages best. < 1377114543 537230 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: it's because of me the The Question is there in the survey, but I don't have access to its results atm hth. < 1377114566 455263 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, what survey is this? < 1377114566 640744 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore, I collect these lemurs independently. < 1377114572 484685 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Updated them plots. < 1377114583 605395 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the survey from the Infamous Interview, as linked in the /topic. < 1377114588 365255 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oooooh :D < 1377114619 319832 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377114628 910763 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a specific reason you're interested in these < 1377114634 663542 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377114648 797787 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: finding this channel's center of mass. < 1377114657 883520 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like you want to know where and how much radiation you need to put to kill us all < 1377114660 233495 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Is that narrow gap in your presence-bitmap lunchtime or something? < 1377114660 885142 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right. < 1377114681 928815 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you do realize it's in the middle of the earth right? < 1377114702 926759 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377114709 583191 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the one at 1900Z? yup. < 1377114716 565934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: nice graphs < 1377114726 904237 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very regular schedule there. < 1377114750 653566 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1377114751 211745 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: well, I thought about putting it on the surface, but if you like the magmatic solution I can compute it for you too. < 1377114763 373527 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :averaging points on a sphere is way beyond my capability < 1377114791 837601 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you can use the von Mises-Fisher distribution or something? < 1377114810 39041 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is that a meaningful thing? < 1377114822 969964 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I work from 9am until 5:30pm, lunch from 12nn until 1pm, sleep from about 9:30pm until 7am. < 1377114825 772170 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: very. < 1377114835 820057 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could take the point on the surface that's closest to the center of mass < 1377114838 749704 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant to say what kmc said in his first message < 1377114840 896597 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it would be neat to do some clustering based on activity times, maybe infer timezones and/or who's a grad student < 1377114843 941396 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: The maximum-likelihood estimate for the "direction" of the von Mises-Fisher is, IIRC, just the same thing you get if you treat the points as vectors, sum them up, and normalize. < 1377114850 397184 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes. or wing it, put it on a projection plane, and do it in plain old 2d coördinates. < 1377114857 109634 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: huh, that's convenient < 1377114862 955352 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I'm pretty sure we had this conversation before :) < 1377114870 28559 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ok though! < 1377114871 535207 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: but that's not very meaningful unless the center of mass is already near the surface? < 1377114873 836493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'all are my external memory < 1377114878 184748 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would think < 1377114906 977678 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: In the context of "average hue", I think. < 1377114915 352385 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, maybe < 1377114916 451369 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377114928 900706 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used the von Mises-Fisher in the gcolor/fcolor thing. < 1377114936 938365 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: not sure, but I have a vague idea that it's a good approximation of some sort < 1377114946 421789 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at one point I was writing some JavaScript to allow a user to choose an arbitrary background color, and then pick a white or black foreground color appropriately < 1377114950 289850 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't need average hue though < 1377114954 941557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it did kick off a lot of reading about colorspaces < 1377114960 247962 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: if it's near the center, then it'll just be random < 1377114961 486035 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1377114964 700551 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377114967 519655 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :L*a*b* forevaaaaaaaah! < 1377115001 170743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep I just picked the one with the larger delta-L* < 1377115028 469957 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think for just choosing between black and white, that's basically as good as using delta-E*(2000) or such < 1377115032 96148 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although having your terminal colours all at the same L* is not a good idea when blending fg and bg.) < 1377115035 4118 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1377115052 960107 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377115065 727019 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I used the "kappa" concentration parameter of von Mises-Fisher for the "how uniformly coloured this image is" weighting.) < 1377115077 784454 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the gcolor / fcolor thing? < 1377115101 171055 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: but you have to assume that CSS colors are sRGB, which is spec'd, but I don't know how accurate in practice < 1377115102 262248 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It resolves the color of anything you can imagine, based on a Google image search or a Flickr search. < 1377115147 885440 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can try it out at http://zem.fi/fcolor (unless that has bitrotted away tue to Flickr API changes), or read about some pre-selected colors at http://zem.fi/gcolor -- the Google results tended to be better. < 1377115190 387469 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though both have the problem that many abstract concepts end up giving some generic grayish-brown. < 1377115200 470043 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: i suspect that what I said is just what fizzie said might be the "maximum-likelihood estimate for the "direction" of the von Mises-Fisher" < 1377115272 184669 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1377115284 727646 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377115288 189230 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, on fcolor, what is the thing in the image analysis middle part? Specifically the lower part of the middle bit < 1377115290 463252 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, http://zem.fi/ircvis/esoteric/termfreq_welcome.html < 1377115305 269042 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It is. And Wikipedia seems to confirm that's the ML answer. < 1377115307 789962 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I went from Lab with D65 as the white point to sRGB. < 1377115369 747897 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the end effect may not be perfect, but the eyehurt is there. < 1377115385 968147 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, Shouldn't you check the output device gamut to see if you can do better? < 1377115391 298149 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1377115419 939312 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I have a wide gamut monitor at work for example. Pretty pointless since I work as a developer, but whatever < 1377115445 807665 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or wait, that was kmc who was doing the chose-color thingy? < 1377115463 414451 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Um, well. It determines the hue first (the top-middle plot is the von Mises-Fisher pdf), and then the bottom-middle part is the (L,S) plane (with H=the mean hue) and the circles are some isolines of the best Gaussian fit of the (L,S) samples of the image, probably at 1 and 2 standard deviations. < 1377115474 295851 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: kmc is doing the useful colour thingy. all I'm having is eyestrain and bad colourschemes. < 1377115485 857615 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, why? < 1377115491 696154 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: cause I can. < 1377115500 926105 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ah < 1377115503 375723 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, ah < 1377115515 1340 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, that's not too bad if I don't touch background colours. < 1377115517 968132 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Apparently we've become more welcoming. < 1377115544 141056 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I don't think it counts relcomes if a color-change hits in the middle of the word "welcome", though. < 1377115592 911297 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, why doesn't gcolor have a web API? < 1377115605 429214 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :or web gui rather < 1377115616 515585 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Google didn't have a proper image search API when I was making it. (I'm not sure if they do now?) < 1377115626 699862 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. according to the fizziegraphs, I am verbose. < 1377115628 323134 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't want to encourage ugly scraping. < 1377115630 718283 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1377115657 606428 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Important: The Google Image Search API has been officially deprecated as of May 26, 2011. It will continue to work as per our deprecation policy, but the number of requests you may make per day may be limited. We encourage you to upgrade to the Custom Search API, which now supports image search." < 1377115674 29958 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well then, just use that? < 1377115687 997831 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess theoretically speaking I could change the fcolor "GUI" to support both. < 1377115699 936739 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My idea of difficulty menu in MUD may be like this: http://sprunge.us/IiME < 1377115705 98812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly there's not enough interest. < 1377115718 871502 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this kind of ideas? What is your opinion of this? < 1377115722 46733 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fcolor / gcolor are really cool! < 1377115765 814177 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also a pretty crummy that, due to all that same-origin stuff, it has to circulate all the images through a CGI script at zem.fi. (You can load an image from a different origin, but aren't supposed to get at the pixels programmatically.) < 1377115790 360151 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should use those timing side channel attacks to do it < 1377115792 954024 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1377115807 130075 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to this, the color of the sun is a kind of reddish brown < 1377115814 265628 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, you could do the processing server side too? < 1377115820 173641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess people don't upload that many pictures of the sun itself. < 1377115834 861872 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, A sun < 1377115841 937982 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :The local sun is just one of many < 1377115848 754429 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1377115851 725682 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck the sun < 1377115852 112997 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Sun is the star at the center of the Solar System. < 1377115873 875662 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was a newspaper! ;) < 1377115879 461728 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, ours is called "the Sun", and then we have "the Solar System", "the Galaxy", "the Universe", ... < 1377115886 909913 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Quick, duck, it's the Sun! < 1377115889 653124 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and "the Moon") < 1377115921 390118 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's called the moon ♪ < 1377115954 890342 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377115970 427912 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck zzo38 < 1377115970 682006 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377115981 802281 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, Flickr's search results of "love" (my standard go-to test word, used it to remind myself what the "bottom middle part" was) have a rather large number of insects having sex. < 1377115987 16757 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck~ zzo38 < 1377115987 232586 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1377116035 111279 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your opinion of this difficulty menu? < 1377116048 313520 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: last time I saw some bottom middling was an obnoxious slimy jelly trying to orally humect ion. < 1377116057 130215 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: gurpsian. < 1377116081 189487 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1377116101 90125 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it seems dyndns now requires you to login once a month for free accounts, not just have the client running, anyone know a better service? < 1377116142 879375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a miasma of incandescent plasma < 1377116225 528505 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: https://freedns.afraid.org/ < 1377116238 679282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen people use dy.fi, but I think that's sort of Finnish-only for some reason. < 1377116255 13868 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1377116261 413252 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, will take a look < 1377116262 954185 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't think they do arbitrary domains either, just "foo.dy.fi" names. Though their domain is nicely short.) < 1377116285 714615 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it easy to be finnish? < 1377116298 389154 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It's okay to be gay, or so I've heard. < 1377116304 172406 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I don't need arbitrary, I just need something to ssh to < 1377116333 526973 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: eh? < 1377116350 606963 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do I have to change my sexual orientation to have another nationality? < 1377116359 552736 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the law < 1377116361 322256 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: In that case there's also no-ip.com, I think they do a couple of names for free. (But it's more of a "commercial" thing than afraid.org.) < 1377116369 321880 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: No, no, it was just as an apropos. < 1377116403 345359 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1377116410 77032 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :afraid.org will probably be good < 1377116415 683917 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad Japan isn't in Europe, or none of us would have a hope in Eurovision at all < 1377116416 462468 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION on sekava. < 1377116432 783364 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: hatsune miku steamrolls the composition < 1377116439 644380 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I don't think anyone disputes *that*. < 1377116457 937436 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course, the UK hasn't had a hope in years) < 1377116475 968780 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the UK won the eurovision??? < 1377116480 597117 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What afraid.org caps passwords at 16 chars? < 1377116481 333205 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a vocaloid concert at eurovision would be wonderful < 1377116481 617730 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :???? < 1377116484 732711 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unprofessional < 1377116501 14627 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course weren't vocaloids developed by a spanish university < 1377116503 352861 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo get on that spain < 1377116516 916449 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: 16 bytes, or could you unicode the fungot out of that? < 1377116517 213568 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: java is too resource consuming for my taste. < 1377116523 102360 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, the last time was in 1997 < 1377116527 142578 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yes, but that's besides the point. < 1377116527 697872 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is there a subdirectory src or sisc within that? is 50% a good thing to see all the edges in the cfgs, though. < 1377116536 140166 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, not sure, I can't input more than 16 letters. < 1377116543 605121 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: meh :| < 1377116559 22747 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I'm not sure you're allowed to have high enough production values at Eurovision for that < 1377116596 22784 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've actually been to a vocaloid concert < 1377116596 321581 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/067/4/a/hatsune_miku_and_megurine_luka_magnet_live_by_oscarosi-d4s5j0d.gif ooh a nice gif < 1377116612 812861 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A very low budget one < 1377116624 883060 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wasn't there that weird video with a steamroller, nude people with crotch lasers, and that pop tune in the background? < 1377116626 190155 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you win < 1377116632 357995 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hepl < 1377116641 624566 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck hepl < 1377116641 914854 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<pre><code>CASS4 (Cas scaffolding protein family member 4)</code></pre> Protein-coding gene on human chromosome 20q13.31, also known as C20orf32, HEF-like protein, HEF1-Efs-p130Cas-like, HEFL, HEPL, chromosome 20 open reading frame 32. < 1377116746 917895 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: found it: http://youtu.be/86wKWjvUD50 [NSFW] < 1377116933 733094 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1377117034 571618 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh for.. I'm going to miss that demowall thing again. < 1377117059 146371 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a conflux of reasons, I've never managed to see it once. < 1377117090 731231 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck conflux < 1377117091 3465 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conflux is a Magic: The Gathering expansion set, released on February 6, 2009. < 1377117101 88324 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn conflux < 1377117102 348326 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "conflux" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1377117102 515986 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :conflux < 1377117102 516207 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: a flowing together [syn: {confluence}, {conflux}, < 1377117102 516319 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : {merging}] < 1377117123 366258 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck confuflux < 1377117123 615022 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377117144 322193 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They are having it hereabouts tomorrow night.) < 1377117338 125916 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that Vocaloid concert (officially "UK39 ft. Miku Hatsune")... they were having problems with Windows Media Player < 1377117345 453547 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1377117447 233752 :FourFire!~FourFire@204-154-232.connect.netcom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1377117460 757542 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't sound like an official concert < 1377117472 400152 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome FourFire < 1377117475 212947 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​05FourFire: Welc02ome to th09e internati02onal 11hub for esoteric07 08programming langu11age des03ign an02d depl03oym05ent! F13or more i04nfor04mation, chec05k 10out our03 w09iki: http://05e10solangs.org/wiki02/Ma02in_Pag02e. (For the other kind of eso09te06rica,14 try02 #esote13r04ic on irc.d07al.04net.) < 1377117499 855176 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: miku is a miku of the people, not your bourgeoise centralist concerts < 1377117524 423135 :FourFire!~FourFire@204-154-232.connect.netcom.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :That greeting text is truly most painful! < 1377117536 380370 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello fourfire. hellourfire < 1377117552 370755 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's true :P < 1377117554 10096 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, I think it was "Let's experiment on these nerds from this backwards corner of England" < 1377117560 454100 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MMD is a thing! < 1377117563 394798 :FourFire!~FourFire@204-154-232.connect.netcom.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least it has mostly uniform colours for each word < 1377117563 831769 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They had a live backing band < 1377117566 774117 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Greeting must be Obeyed, and Glimpsed in All its Colourful Glory. < 1377117664 506564 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"UK39" sounds like a silly pun on AKB48 for some reason < 1377117719 116792 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a word-based rainbow welcome too. < 1377117728 398553 :FourFire!~FourFire@204-154-232.connect.netcom.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dalnet channel is rather... sparse < 1377117730 745389 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run welcome | rainwords < 1377117733 137667 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​2Welcome 13to 6the 4international 7hub 8for 9esoteric 2programming 13language 6design 4and 7deployment! 8For 9more 2information, 13check 6out 4our 7wiki: 8http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. 9(For 2the 13other 6kind 4of 7esoterica, 8try 9#esoteric 2on 13irc.dal.net.) < 1377117736 196080 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you find that more appealing. < 1377117771 754475 :FourFire!~FourFire@204-154-232.connect.netcom.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it was nice to see that such a channel as this existed, fare thee well! < 1377117781 818560 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :later < 1377117787 127204 :FourFire!~FourFire@204-154-232.connect.netcom.no PART #esoteric :"PRIVMSG #lesswrong :#Esoteric is a channel about programming" < 1377117792 617498 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've still got the ticket stub somewhere < 1377117799 269046 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man are we being spied on < 1377117826 363410 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. for once we had a nice visitor, and he left :( < 1377117827 878994 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so: note to spies: we are talking about animes not programming. get ur fax strait, nerds. < 1377117864 662500 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the FourFire/Carolyne ratio is way too low for the past quarter. we need a PR campaign. < 1377117873 611058 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :carolyne? < 1377117918 902650 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: oh, you missed the colombian girl. it was an... uhm... life experience. < 1377117922 273833 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was that one of elliott's many girlfriends? < 1377117933 476286 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1377117937 911475 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: probably. elliott is very mysterious, after all. < 1377117938 857614 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1377117952 323771 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377117957 547250 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that was dumb of me. < 1377117990 442714 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha I like FourFire's /part message < 1377118030 290462 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes what was that!! < 1377118041 694168 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know a guy who uses purple and it does that < 1377118058 296249 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you mean, it wasn't deliberate? < 1377118060 675193 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, stop making less sense than I. < 1377118076 678035 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah, it eats /part-s if you have some mods < 1377118088 820781 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :wget for https is fucked on my RPi it appears < 1377118091 726808 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :How confusing < 1377118093 856982 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377118097 13700 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i join #lesswrong to see what gives < 1377118102 959491 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I thought it was some kind of a clever. < 1377118105 953749 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pros: possibly funny; cons: joining #lesswrong < 1377118112 347592 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :curl works fine < 1377118115 161945 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :wget just hangs < 1377118133 382551 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've had problems with wget and https before. imo fuck it < 1377118296 743588 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377118323 699412 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1377118332 785049 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, it works fine for the same URL on my desktop < 1377118337 682852 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that is pretty weird < 1377118352 953585 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. < 1377118389 917464 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: old weird version on the RPi? < 1377118514 870920 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1377118528 487956 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, 512 MB version < 1377118557 81811 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, is that old and weird? < 1377118576 896432 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :About 5-6 months old by now < 1377118578 151905 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, what are you wget'ing? I'll see what happens with my RPi < 1377118598 289233 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(less than a week old) < 1377118604 538925 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I mean, the wget version, not the RPi itself. hth. < 1377118627 79583 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have two RPies at my apartment. I should test what happens on them. < 1377118629 374013 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, a secret update URL for freedns.afraid.org. Nope not going to share it and have it repoint to your IP :P < 1377118637 359828 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1377118649 702362 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens with other https's? < 1377118654 422069 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo green yellow red green red blue cyan magenta green red green blue green red red blue magenta blue green blue yellow magenta magenta blue cyan yellow green red green magenta green yellow cyan yellow magenta cyan red blue cyan cyan | rainwords < 1377118656 192171 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​7green 8yellow 9red 2green 13red 6blue 4cyan 7magenta 8green 9red 2green 13blue 6green 4red 7red 8blue 9magenta 2blue 13green 6blue 4yellow 7magenta 8magenta 9blue 2cyan 13yellow 6green 4red 7green 8magenta 9green 2yellow 13cyan 6yellow 4magenta 7cyan 8red 9blue 2cyan 13cyan < 1377118659 14654 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, this hangs too: wget -O - https://www.google.com < 1377118662 632641 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck u kmc :( < 1377118678 403591 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stroop test motherfuckkkkkkkkas < 1377118687 699702 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, works fine on my desktop < 1377118688 308154 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hits kmc over the head with a NYC yellow pages < 1377118694 241500 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Works on my RPi < 1377118696 408348 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre < 1377118701 754642 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it harder if sometimes the word does match? < 1377118726 234634 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, aaaaaah I hate those things < 1377118739 271546 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, I did have problems with dns the other week on the RPi. The local recursive DNS server refused to resolve anything. Then it just randomly started working again after clearing the cache for the fourth time < 1377118748 796574 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure if my RPi has some issues perhaps < 1377118751 720768 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the only method I know for somebody to prove that they *don't* know a particular language < 1377118757 291559 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though there are ways to cheat too, like defocusing your eyes) < 1377118762 150726 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :relevant http://neilblr.com/post/44579634689 < 1377118764 115981 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's certainly throwing me off < 1377118795 858051 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much is it to launch a private ICBM with a small nuclear charge? < 1377118823 482988 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amazon Elastic ICBM < 1377118832 925212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: haha < 1377118838 21189 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1377118869 142623 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody can pool some money? it's for a noble cause. < 1377118887 491356 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright i have an argument against merica not using the metric system < 1377118903 580338 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that argument is: why is this being taught in a college class. holy shit. holy shiasdayviaerqjjjjjjjj < 1377118910 201635 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I could kickstarter it... pledge at least 20$ and get a glow-in-the-dark radioactive replica of kmc's skeleton! < 1377118920 843159 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, it would make it easier for the terrorist to get the measurements right? < 1377118933 585977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://kickstriker.com/kony < 1377118945 354323 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kickstriker owns < 1377118959 915703 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: do you read http://www.wrongingrights.com/ < 1377118972 114584 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn shiasdayviaerqjjjjjjjj is the reason why the USA don't use the metric system. < 1377118972 502839 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, as if that would ever amount to anything actually happening < 1377118975 750169 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377118976 646720 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, what is it < 1377118984 250430 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: read the rest, imo < 1377119001 453805 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god there's a post about The Newsroom < 1377119001 599086 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Apparently, riding astride is “uncultural.” And, like the much maligned mini-skirt, it threatens road safety by distracting male drivers» the worst argument < 1377119040 118374 :calamari!~calamari@173-126-148-92.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377119044 360631 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, okay, doubtful that will work still. < 1377119055 414749 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you're killing me here < 1377119057 693758 :calamari!~calamari@173-126-148-92.pools.spcsdns.net PART :#esoteric < 1377119064 578022 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, me? < 1377119070 813442 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck the room < 1377119071 107600 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Room may refer to: The Room, by Harold Budd The Room The Room, by Zoé The Room, by Tommy Wiseau The Room, from Newgrounds. < 1377119206 111229 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played a puzzle game named "The Room" recently. Was pretty fun. Think it was part of some humble (android?) bundle. < 1377119510 124586 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: if it is, I don't have it in my bought bundles. < 1377119515 301622 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat113.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1377119524 104181 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: did you ever play the submachine flash games? < 1377119664 617463 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, hm? < 1377119674 291621 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I don't recall ever hearing about that < 1377119839 961947 :calamari!~calamari@173-126-148-92.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377120380 263085 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, according to fcolor water is brown with a green tint < 1377120431 752494 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the sea is green with a very slight blue tint < 1377120439 529256 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad I didn't put in "cocks" as my first try < 1377120448 477460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realize it shows the individual images < 1377120450 870216 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I am at work < 1377120474 456347 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1377120477 844158 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mozilla has a stict no-cocks policy < 1377120483 998625 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might not show too NSFWy things, it's a Flickr search. < 1377120497 982562 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of pictures of roosters < 1377120501 199728 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some roosters, maybe. < 1377120508 47324 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am: late. < 1377120585 981230 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night < 1377120591 178637 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could also run kajillion times faster, there's just lots of delays because I didn't want to have too many requests going on. < 1377120599 244311 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377120749 118102 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1377120751 477388 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night < 1377120791 230662 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: submachine's fun < 1377121073 853395 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it is, but I must disappear in a vortex. < 1377121075 643354 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1377121076 825390 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377121100 229494 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1377121325 323485 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377121334 725569 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«The teacher says that Daniel is fascinated by Maggie’s hair because he’s never seen a blonde person before, and that “blondes are trouble.”» oh my, kmc < 1377121792 782269 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: this blog is horrifying, help < 1377121803 54259 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1377121816 324216 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"certain conduct of a sexual nature that was nonconsensual" < 1377121820 807833 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that thing you posted above < 1377121824 33498 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks yale < 1377121860 636219 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"implements such as those that are used for the construction of trenches" < 1377121874 175717 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe it was Tacitus who wrote that < 1377121948 397613 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377122103 847204 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Kate is a lawyer (Columbia, 2006) and PhD candidate in political science (Columbia, 2204?)" haha < 1377122294 626910 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: So yeah. Finally got some Moxie. < 1377122308 652823 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be able to see if it's any good, or if you're just a crazy anosmic man. < 1377122404 709699 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377122432 47550 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1377122434 513032 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1377122476 166951 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that? < 1377122495 439327 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moxie is a soda that Gregor is fond of, that's really hard to find outside of Maine. < 1377122537 115063 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also the origin of the English word "moxie". < 1377122557 899303 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh really < 1377123135 644352 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1377123158 470810 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377123258 134611 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377123571 765864 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377123673 77461 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: there should be a rust make thingy that compiles required files into crates and links them together automatically < 1377123733 202191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's rustpkg; it's a work in progress < 1377123775 914603 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much about it < 1377123784 964157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had a meeting this morning to talk about using it for Servo, but we aren't yet < 1377124012 315370 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377124990 870144 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377125382 34218 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw crates are only linked dynamically, at the moment < 1377125405 479088 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you need the .so at compile time to get metadata out, and to set the rpath probably < 1377125418 652807 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :metadata reading is atrociously slow right now < 1377126375 607375 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377126560 187033 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1377127100 765686 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377127127 890212 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377128633 154139 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, I found my first actual "compiler produces bad code, leading to memory corruption" bug < 1377128733 946941 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I cheered < 1377128741 678645 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1377128787 49243 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"my favorite kind of bug" < 1377128837 202557 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: For the rust compiler? < 1377128897 815625 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1377128912 659449 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377128944 964671 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1377129295 188055 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377129658 357690 :calamari!~calamari@173-126-148-92.pools.spcsdns.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377130050 41947 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do Erlang developers still only push to production off-peak? < 1377130979 351301 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://whateverorigin.org/ < 1377131025 243524 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is this something you want? < 1377131059 279254 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just wondering why CORS needs to send preflight for cross-origin complex if cookies won't get sent < 1377131064 338196 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... think that's what I'm wondering < 1377131073 205698 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that could be faked with whateverorigin.org and similar services anyway < 1377131112 271658 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, whateverorigin is JSONP and thus forces GET and doesn't specify a way to POST, but not too hard to imagine ... some alternatives < 1377131332 484460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why is East Palo Alto due north of Palo Alto? < 1377132020 988378 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377132029 192911 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1377132183 734574 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh look, the NFL pre-season has started. < 1377132187 864592 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder how I can watch it. < 1377132222 741921 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1377132579 13197 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; / Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?'" < 1377132804 92711 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much < 1377132957 177959 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377133213 699841 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18369820/ computer science < 1377133368 979897 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377133391 919390 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377133414 387252 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377133564 991881 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i like how it's tagged python, r, matlab < 1377133591 3871 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like "i'll use ANYTHING just PLEASE help me" < 1377133641 382804 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well do you know how to do it in matlab? i don't < 1377133717 201306 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you cheer? < 1377133720 791339 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I cheered < 1377133733 577504 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guys < 1377133734 424816 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastie.org/8258290 < 1377133735 423045 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why < 1377133737 449766 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1377133768 964139 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a bike, not a guy < 1377133993 125718 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Guy or bike)s < 1377133993 270751 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1377102864 seconds? XD < 1377134012 22002 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377134018 745777 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well, if you're going to start getting specific... :p < 1377134020 216362 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I sent that request about 44 years ago. < 1377134042 148457 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: maybe it's from 1970 (unix timestamp 0)? < 1377134052 352319 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That actually kinda sounds about right. < 1377134071 155361 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is definitely right. < 1377134224 196381 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377134233 948375 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett TOPIC #esoteric :tswett needs noderefs | The welcomes of doom | 22nd IOCCC is open: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | jsvine is doing an esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q/viewform | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric | <AnotherTest> fizzie: true, it needs to be made more complex < 1377134274 322901 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need no stinkin' derefs! < 1377134903 848598 :noooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377135222 206938 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377135294 188164 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377135595 256561 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje < 1377136447 935332 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377137848 670010 :noooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: noooodl < 1377138407 620888 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bookland data. data is sorrow. < 1377138435 923167 :rumbleduck!~rumbleduc@c-76-121-43-79.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377138458 676195 :rumbleduck!~rumbleduc@c-76-121-43-79.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1377140197 671866 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1377144523 363151 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does anyone here know how to scan books without destroying them. < 1377145075 230628 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I read something about that the other month. < 1377145205 54643 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377145251 224759 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, about all I can recall is that it was a lot more difficulter than just cutting stuff up. < 1377145266 318235 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah. < 1377145503 445964 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377146113 346530 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1377146120 343159 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1377146445 5582 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :grimbark is apparently a word now < 1377149830 832429 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: This is me, signing off. Probably rebooting or something. < 1377149855 506667 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377150053 67244 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377150591 819957 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Cheer? < 1377150773 395759 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1377150888 120083 :dan200!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377152307 139833 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377152460 766763 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1377154224 180456 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377155138 503299 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377155429 178467 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, the events of the latest olist made me happy < 1377156391 207594 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377157004 183046 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377157446 568492 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377157608 127353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1377157974 235543 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377159993 200466 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, "if" is a function in haskell? < 1377160032 737816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's special syntax < 1377160093 582535 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could easily define a corresponding function but there's none in the standard library. < 1377160102 456141 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia says: if' :: Bool -> a -> a -> a < 1377160110 357450 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's "if'", and it's just a suggestamation. < 1377160117 549877 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot's @pl uses it < 1377160119 204181 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1377160120 173942 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or is it a reality already?) < 1377160135 676047 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in haskell you can make a function call without evaluating the arguments? < 1377160152 753730 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a lazy bum, yes. < 1377160158 621540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: yes. that's why it's called a "lazy" language. < 1377160190 404445 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's quite a lot of laziness < 1377160263 102190 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can write True || _ = True; False || x = x and that gives you a short circuiting 'or' operator < 1377160272 137714 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as an ordinary function with infix syntax < 1377160304 597109 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun < 1377160306 63506 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Agda you can define a function named if_then_else_ and call it as if x then y else z < 1377160322 796948 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src (||) < 1377160322 941761 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :True || _ = True < 1377160322 941939 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :False || x = x < 1377160660 610244 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1377161394 810048 :rawraws!~bobbyD@63.142.161.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377161456 682382 :rawraws!~bobbyD@63.142.161.17 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377161456 895309 :bobbydigital!~bobbyD@63.142.161.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377161479 794573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell myndzi Hey those coördinates are not in Olympia! < 1377161479 976123 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377161578 54353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's somewhere in the middle of nowhere in washington state. possibly the state's center of mass. < 1377161853 353735 :bobbydigital!~bobbyD@63.142.161.17 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377161982 429108 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs maybe start a home based < 1377162031 236006 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.22482 < 1377162057 726932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn that only shows up the fungot quote itself < 1377162058 81586 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: should be just raw packed pixel stream, i mean < 1377162087 493261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes really savvy glass < 1377162092 936921 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.23637 < 1377162096 733101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1377162103 238134 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs really savvy glass < 1377162117 588437 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.16324 < 1377162164 15936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly the glass seems to come from "<GregorR> Yeah, I guess a really savvy Glass programmer could make some very non-esoteric things in it :)" < 1377162197 379709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: your version was _so_ much better hth < 1377162198 2200 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but it doesn't work, thats my problem. < 1377162214 702122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey it _could_ work :( < 1377162278 425342 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The other half is from #scheme, "2005-04-12 08:50:03 <The_Apprentice> would this be a cool way to make some money, maybe start a home based business". < 1377162294 731501 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1377162322 930680 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This" being Lisp/Scheme. < 1377162365 109461 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/RMYQ a bit of a ramble. < 1377162408 946718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i think fungot's "i'd hate learning cobol and fortran just for getting wiki work." at the end was also part of what made it. < 1377162409 419656 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: www.harderweb.de/ jix/ langs/ brainfuck/ util/ fnord, but for a different lang order of < 1377162419 240886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1377162436 511839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <fungot> boily: so i guess a really savvy glass programmer could make some money, maybe start a home based business of a profiler to spot outright dead code. macro-generated code often has big swaths of it. i'd hate learning cobol and fortran just for getting wiki work. < 1377162436 750767 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you don't need to duck. < 1377162439 522648 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1093) <fungot> boily: so i guess a really savvy glass programmer could make some money, maybe start a home based business of a profiler to spot outright dead code. macro-generated code often has big swaths of it. i'd hate learning cobol and fortran just for getting wiki work. < 1377162462 693947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck but what if i want to! < 1377162468 208123 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377162483 66050 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cephalopodic one is absent :( < 1377162496 516166 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That fungot quote is really profound < 1377162497 41857 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: note to self: use ffts for error correction you need quite easily.) then an additional swap is not necessary < 1377162540 902346 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a font of wisdom. < 1377162604 385112 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Incidentally, have you ever thought of designing a typeface? < 1377162604 829009 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hello? i have never before seen a beverage that keeps for some fnord have some really nice tos optimizations. < 1377162652 249585 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a hunch fungot didn't understand the question. < 1377162652 434805 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: where is bf? < 1377162684 814073 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i'd suggest metafont instead, i think it's esoteric too and is what zzo38 uses. < 1377162685 190672 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thought of generalizing that definition right up to " performing flow analysis"? or do you < 1377162711 441764 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no, i didn't think of that. < 1377162712 162566 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: s/ release/ version/ vehicular manslaughter!" or " robust" though, because oklotalk is a language, but some of the major ones < 1377162747 673510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1377162767 759319 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Sometimes you worry me. < 1377162768 342272 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: even when the underlying db type wasn't really a string, and returns what receiver returned. srfi 8 is receive. srfi 11 is syntax for method invocation, rpc for java programming. < 1377162886 18231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very schemy < 1377163500 753554 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1377165074 728555 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377165401 248647 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1377167004 724665 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1377167010 376634 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<Sgeo> oerjan: I cheered <-- wat < 1377167453 752267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell sgeo <Sgeo> oerjan: I cheered <-- wtf context man < 1377167453 936479 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377167746 513183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<Sgeo> shachaf: yes, the events of the latest olist made me happy <-- oh that. well i guess he had it coming to him. < 1377167806 391288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Sgeo <Sgeo> shachaf: yes, the events of the latest olist made me happy <-- oh that. well i guess he had it coming to him. < 1377167806 576143 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377167908 176191 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1377167908 320725 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1377168180 785896 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1377168344 903658 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's the first time in Brogue I've been killed by a potion of levitation < 1377168429 2609 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377168430 522287 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377168449 579837 :asie!~asie@178.235.38.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377169454 533256 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377169477 185508 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1377170793 858418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1377171168 301787 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style wp < 1377171168 446763 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: wp (1/256th of all Wikipedia "Talk:" namespace pages) < 1377171175 793089 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ss < 1377171175 937565 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ss (Shakespeare's writings) < 1377171178 414872 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahhh < 1377171187 693185 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Should you be or not be? < 1377171188 282630 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: scene i. rome. a room in the palace. < 1377171193 813409 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1377171199 881609 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright, then < 1377171204 956545 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :'morning, #esoteric < 1377171229 234458 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1377171288 89729 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377171367 189957 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377171680 884925 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Well, don't just stop there. < 1377171681 476771 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: comedy. how now, sirra, doost thou? i once did lend my bodie for thy wealth, it is < 1377171885 937990 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377171922 236685 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377172008 680781 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377172018 164121 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377172353 772702 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1377173369 858549 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fungot < 1377173370 98559 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: choose you, sir? < 1377173372 37695 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot cannot be stopped by that sword alone. < 1377173384 301491 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to add that fungot is a botwhore < 1377173385 716286 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: mar. an. with all my heart, that there adiacent lie, that have done nothing but prate to me of the dukes? and my chastitie be made the altar, where we host, and make vs wade euen in our kindreds blood: therefore, if thou tak'st leaue, thou wer't better gaul the diuell salsbury. if thou shouldst strive to choose. < 1377174343 301765 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377174365 237947 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1377174385 283986 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377174399 456369 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1377174414 314040 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377175031 882842 :asie!~asie@178.235.38.113 QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377175195 302704 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377175750 540508 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377175788 234321 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1377176199 367770 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1377176400 759209 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377176851 184424 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377177866 832118 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1377177970 723331 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377178149 223258 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377178154 907884 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377178157 91378 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good TSRA morning. < 1377178160 404323 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1377178160 740553 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 221300Z 26006KT 8SM BKN055TCU OVC240 21/20 A2990 RMK TCU7CI1 SLP123 DENSITY ALT 900FT < 1377178171 506288 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it stopped raining! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAURGH! < 1377178203 361123 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about here? < 1377178207 895978 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1377178208 250640 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 221300Z 26006KT 8SM BKN055TCU OVC240 21/20 A2990 RMK TCU7CI1 SLP123 DENSITY ALT 900FT < 1377178214 928390 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. That's nice. < 1377178280 819146 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started pouring 10 seconds after I started bixiing, then it stopped a few minutes after my ride. < 1377178283 745695 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm drenched. < 1377178293 511696 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/I /it/ < 1377178330 451839 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377178544 313161 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1377178545 902055 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is the brother of Roujo's brother and he's monetizing the company Roujo works at, or something Canadian like that. < 1377178550 922306 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, cool < 1377178564 86172 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell me when you stop pouring, mmmkay? < 1377178570 948909 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it missed Dorval < 1377178573 94825 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yay < 1377178759 825930 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wringed my clothes in the office shower. the pour has somewhat ended, and I have a deserved coffee. < 1377178769 75487 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377178908 219264 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, environnement canada issued a SPECI: < 1377178910 304236 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1377178910 678040 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 221338Z 21012KT 6SM -SHRA BR OVC070 22/18 A2989 RMK AC8 SLP121 DENSITY ALT 900FT < 1377178996 477087 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the forecasts are unsure about if it's going to just TSRA or +TSRA in the next hours. at the very least, with my kurrent karma, lunchtime will be an aquatic experience. < 1377179011 531699 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(“welcome to, marineland! ♪”) < 1377179344 655931 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knowing what TSRA means would probably help < 1377179414 918474 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thunderströmming rain. < 1377179416 259938 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1377179665 650762 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1377179667 103967 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1377179698 388940 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fomething < 1377179700 109672 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fomething denotes the obsolescence of clinical insanity. < 1377182091 839952 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377182196 957646 :jix!~jix@37.72.148.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377182632 125230 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1377183048 959648 :nooodl_!~nooodl@109.129.65.50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377183254 747945 :nooodl!~nooodl@100.144-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377188461 283902 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377189761 318063 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377190309 470632 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377191076 291989 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377191490 264910 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377191976 765003 :nooodl_!~nooodl@109.129.65.50 NICK :nooodl < 1377192032 632271 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377192521 88730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1377193221 360066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<boily> thunderströmming rain. <-- no matter how bad, it's still better than surströmming rain hth < 1377193289 403043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, do you canadians have some kind of natural ability to understand those crazy encrypted forecasts. < 1377193378 959285 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like so. < 1377193403 248279 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are super-powered Canadians! the obscure and polite force that will Save the World, eh! < 1377193421 987866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while mounted on horses. < 1377193478 784568 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :horses are the prhoof of our down-to-earth pragmatism, of our survival skills in the Great White North, of our ability to make Poutine with whatever there is! < 1377193550 520761 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can only assume boily lives way up north in a town that only exists for the sake of a NORAD weather station < 1377193614 169016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so that's what poutine is. it looks even less healthy than what i usually eat. < 1377193671 583362 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make an original authentic Poutine you need three ingredients: French fries, cheese curds (fresh ones will squeak under your teeth), and poutine sauce. < 1377193687 434810 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some will argue that regular brown sauce is also an option, but they're heretics. < 1377193705 54738 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wp calls it "gravy" hth < 1377193719 582963 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't trust wikipédia on that matter. < 1377193731 743581 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's serious business. < 1377193755 731308 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377193778 190143 :nooodl!~nooodl@109.129.65.50 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1377193792 273975 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :various toppings are perfectly acceptable and recommended. you can add: meat, peas, other cheeses, onions, bacon, sausage, peppers, tomato sauce, béchamel, [EXPUNGED], mushrooms, corn... < 1377193836 907468 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is the canonical stomach-filler a traditional Québécois will get after a night out crawling the bars. < 1377193878 423952 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see. in norway that's somehow become kebab. < 1377193890 986735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although burgers will also do. < 1377193937 995459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i guess sausages too, which may even be more traditional. < 1377193946 339889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hot dogs) < 1377194005 250156 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this restaurant is Montréal's reference: http://labanquise.com/ (English version available) < 1377194320 90896 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: looks like wp mentions the cult status of norwegian kebabs. < 1377194863 400730 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377195194 533833 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377195246 677660 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377195525 672918 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1377195616 603418 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377195721 239757 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :[̲̅$̲̅(̲̅1)̲̅$̲̅] < 1377195723 168511 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1377195748 782614 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how this works, but it does, so eh < 1377195824 533031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :squeaky cheese is the best < 1377195844 301866 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: [$(1)$] with spurrious lines? < 1377195854 625051 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kebab seems easier than poutine to eat on the go < 1377195858 141949 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shows up as a dollar bill to me < 1377195894 206284 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: pourine in throwaway coated cardboard platters is pretty easy to carry. < 1377195905 292545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+18B96 GEORGE WASHINGTON'S FACE < 1377195922 635083 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/pourine/poutine/ < 1377195946 580430 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh, you can also get a good shish taouk, with random chicken bits in it! < 1377195975 14796 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"random" chicken bits sounds fishy < 1377195978 970184 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you lie. < 1377196017 221494 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: disappointed rn < 1377196021 227402 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it adds to the taste, with pickled beets, tomatoes, lettuces, and that garlicky mayonnaise. < 1377196024 252608 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck rn < 1377196024 543112 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rn definition: registered nurse. < 1377196066 820042 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my girlfriend and I have an ongoing argument whether tomatoes are authentic in shawarma wraps or not. < 1377196105 804638 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an ongoing argument with one of my friends on how to pronounce "sanguine" < 1377196122 631968 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"singine" < 1377196155 414102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people keep arguing about how to pronounce "banal" < 1377196158 45675 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"rhymes with anal" < 1377196169 267676 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: /sɑ̃gin/. < 1377196178 392172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the squeaky cheese gets the grease < 1377196182 129775 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, we agree on the first syllable < 1377196184 364262 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what about french fries in shawarma wraps < 1377196192 300139 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's whether it's -win or -wine < 1377196196 415029 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I say -win) < 1377196201 323119 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: on the side, not in. < 1377196208 921656 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh -wun obviously, do you not see the "u" < 1377196219 626766 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377196224 603193 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: where does that [w] come from, you unorthodox unpronouncer that you are? < 1377196246 507072 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I don't know, probably the Vikings < 1377196265 633180 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: how about sangween? < 1377196276 533420 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :After King Charles the Simple of France gave them land in Normandy, some of them learnt French < 1377196284 634527 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lobs a Larousse dictionary at olsner < 1377196286 7159 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the dialects diverged < 1377196299 982804 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then these Franc-swedes conquered England < 1377196360 4868 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I thought we were talking about the English pronunciation of the word, not the Larousse pronunciation < 1377196463 100556 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. if you want the diverged version... I'd go with -ween. < 1377196514 550315 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's some handy advice for future people! Don't procrastinate applying for university accommodation! < 1377196532 686350 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotcha < 1377196567 651700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<kmc> U+18B96 GEORGE WASHINGTON'S FACE <-- i'm suddenly imagining some code that secretly makes printers print perfect quality bills < 1377196632 406564 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks Taneb < 1377196634 257328 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Taneb. Thaneb. < 1377196651 754211 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you'd need different codes for all the inks that compose a bank note. < 1377196652 506541 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be a codepoint for the EURion constellation too < 1377196657 294847 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've just had to pretty much say "I don't care where I live" < 1377196670 309291 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, there? < 1377196698 158540 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, how do you ensure your rdiff-backups are consistent? Do you do some lvm snapshotting or some such= < 1377196746 465334 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: who knows. maybe you'll get a very nice view of the campus, and the stars at night? < 1377196753 238814 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377196762 100936 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, maybe < 1377196775 688297 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it will be hard to see with eyes full of tears < 1377196806 489071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i don't think future people are able to apply for university accomodation. maybe you should tell their parents instead. < 1377196832 79845 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it doesn't apply right now < 1377196836 819716 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's future advice < 1377196879 795577 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah... the days of being a student... < 1377196937 222892 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I lived at home during university, it was close enough for me. About 20 minutes of commute by car, about 45 by bus < 1377196939 108412 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what about french fries in shawarma wraps < 1377196977 874396 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: There's no pronounciation guide in the Larousse =P < 1377196983 119148 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try a Robert instead =P < 1377196987 231127 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, it's a couple of hours by train for me < 1377196997 158876 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm not spending £30 a day to get to university < 1377197002 316907 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, that wound be annoying yes < 1377197060 914907 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I know. I'm cheap, and roberts are too costly :p < 1377197080 387439 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh =P < 1377197124 981900 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy shit, I'm glad I used lvm everywhere now. LVM snapshots look super-awesome for doing system backups. < 1377197182 559625 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bacula all the way! < 1377197200 51211 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because nothing beats having to juggle tapes for backuping your stuff! < 1377197213 618657 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, isn't bacula super-enterprisy? < 1377197234 301062 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And does it only support tapes? < 1377197247 439392 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll most likely be using rdiff-backup once the new external HDDs arrive < 1377197264 644156 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's very geeky, with all the configuration files and settings and dæmons and twekable configurable behaviours. < 1377197295 682624 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right... :P < 1377197298 499410 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it supports just about any form of storage. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hooked a robotic arm with a sharpie duct taped to it and some paper reams to bacula. < 1377197305 520410 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/twek/tweak/ < 1377197322 934649 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I read about it, it sounded enterprisy < 1377197324 619954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I admin'd a machine with several thousand LVM snapshots, which caused the kernel to take several hours to boot < 1377197332 412989 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno if that's fixed or if it matters at smaller numbers of snapshots < 1377197334 265494 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, .... ouch < 1377197343 23275 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was super painful < 1377197344 246238 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, why would you ever do that? < 1377197349 759024 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what the fungot... how do you achieve that? < 1377197350 141605 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: san. sir thomas louell, is the beginning of the day, < 1377197368 870218 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: not quite. it's 14:48 here. < 1377197369 606857 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: iago. is't come to this great accompt, on your charge, whereof you cannot easily purge yourself. i do demand, if you suspect the king will labour still to save his life. < 1377197377 394095 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck iago < 1377197377 654166 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iago definition: the villain of Shakespeare's tragedy '''Othello'''. < 1377197384 253951 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: a bunch of similar VMs as COW snapshots of a single Linux install < 1377197407 219449 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, Heh. Not sure several thousand VMs on a single machine is a good idea anyway < 1377197415 495800 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they weren't all running at once........... < 1377197420 489558 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well okay < 1377197426 353078 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we needed to quickly boot a nearly arbitrary subset of them < 1377197433 354408 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway why did it make the kernel boot so slow? < 1377197438 400454 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Bug. < 1377197454 724926 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I assume it was reported then? < 1377197463 814093 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1377197474 825846 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can not imagine a use case for quickly starting a subset of the machines. < 1377197530 104835 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry that your imagination is bad < 1377197543 509015 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1377197546 766485 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? vorpal's imagination < 1377197548 360505 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :vorpal's imagination? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377197548 825562 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                           | < 1377197549 65469 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                         o/`¯º < 1377197564 401643 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we were testing rebootless kernel updates < 1377197575 465108 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :dan200 < 1377197604 858 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that makes sense then indeed < 1377197616 643336 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, You were working on that hot patch project, whatever the name was? < 1377197621 991347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we supported like a dozen distribution-versions (e.g. "RHEL 5" or "Debian Squeeze") but each of these has published hundreds of kernel packages in different versions and flavors < 1377197631 986384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Ksplice. yeah, I worked there for 8 months, until they got bought by Oracle < 1377197642 715695 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ouch, Oracle got them too? < 1377197645 701814 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit < 1377197660 853028 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you worked for ksplice? neat! < 1377197694 385009 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was neat < 1377197833 645686 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm doing consistent backups of postgresql is non-trivial it appears. Interesting < 1377197859 883566 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :my OS shall have seamless online kernel upgrades < 1377197893 345371 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, wait, when did you turn into elliott? < 1377197918 164284 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I assume this is only the case for minor fixes? Or major upgrades too? < 1377197994 303941 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: everyone is elliott, fsvo elliott. < 1377197999 708141 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1377198053 870150 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: what's only the case? < 1377198095 835443 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, wrt olsner's statement < 1377198123 375207 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner's statement that olsner's OS shall have seamless online kernel upgrades? < 1377198124 973799 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well, I'd like it to handle all kinds of upgrades ... but the old and new kernel have to be "compatible" to do some kind of handoff, and perhaps it won't be practical to make *all* pairs of versions compatible < 1377198130 340137 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, yes < 1377198145 624614 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, you are actually making an OS? < 1377198167 688503 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: have youread the Ksplice paper? http://www.ksplice.com/doc/ksplice.pdf < 1377198174 611849 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner was making an OS before I was < 1377198183 235869 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :before it was cool < 1377198196 567720 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: actually, I'm really only making a kernel < 1377198226 971080 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway Ksplice does patches we considered "important" but not whole upgrades e.g. 3.10 to 3.11, which would be thousands of patches < 1377198229 593318 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, pretty cool still < 1377198240 722511 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, how usable is it at this point? < 1377198246 132060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the "important" patches are security fixes, and most security fixes are very localized changes e.g. adding a NULL pointer check somewhere < 1377198250 279301 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because fuck C, etc. < 1377198259 220489 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so those patches the tool can handle totally automatically < 1377198261 523209 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: approximately "not" usable < 1377198275 497570 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, is there even code for it? < 1377198289 653221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but some human intervention is needed to recognize the patches that can't be handled automatically (e.g. because they change the shape of a data structure) and deal with it accordingly < 1377198294 611934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we had a variety of strategies for doing so < 1377198309 153565 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be nice to see a kernel properly designed to handle what ksplice did without all the fuss < 1377198310 41155 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, going through all instances of a structure and updating it? < 1377198328 374330 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the figure was 85% ish can be done automatically, and we almost never had an important patch that we plain couldn't do < 1377198330 129386 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yet another excuse for me to indulge in my operating-systems-in-exotic-languages fetish) < 1377198343 920257 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yeah you can do that < 1377198350 682704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :harder if the patch introduces a new field in a struct < 1377198359 714552 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I imagine it can be a pain if a patch adds an extra entry to a central scheduler data structure maintained by RCU or some such :P < 1377198395 210037 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And having RCU won't help when you need to change the layout < 1377198413 544423 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, do you stop all execution on all cores while patching? I would guess yes? < 1377198423 575259 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1377198436 736921 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also what do you do when you would need to move code to fit in that extra null check? < 1377198456 51141 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just make the function call a different function instead? < 1377198461 301999 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And put all the code there? < 1377198498 404208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we stop execution on all cores using stop_machine() and also walk the kernel stack of every process to make sure none of the functions to be patched are currently active < 1377198517 20211 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do oracle still maintain the ksplice functionality for their linux thing < 1377198517 330039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: patching a function is always accomplished by overwriting the beginning of the function with a jump to new code < 1377198528 841699 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was it an ~acquihire~ < 1377198537 663908 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the new code is loaded as part of the update, by loading a kernel module in the ordinary way < 1377198538 909434 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, ah < 1377198540 945994 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yep they do it < 1377198550 705852 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know the ksplice website claims it's part of Oracle Linux now but it also hasn't been updated since 2011 and I don't trust anything they say) < 1377198551 558784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's a big deal for them because it's like the only feature Oracle Linux has that Red Hat doesn't < 1377198556 672613 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1377198571 310273 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what about them < 1377198571 799005 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, so redhat no longer get ksplices then? < 1377198586 724880 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you approve < 1377198589 151151 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: correct < 1377198594 641404 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, couldn't they do it on their own, or is it patented or something silly like that? < 1377198596 649067 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except legacy customers of ksplice maybe < 1377198607 816536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: they could but they never did < 1377198611 885020 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1377198618 943134 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's presumably a ton of work < 1377198619 390148 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the (old version of) core ksplice tools are open source < 1377198622 580506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1377198628 812243 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, the new ones aren't? < 1377198630 580143 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes it's a ton of work and we had a ton of internal tools to help us do it < 1377198637 513898 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1377198638 430319 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I suspect Red Hat can do other things to make more money that are less work < 1377198642 569812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the public repositories haven't seen updates in quite a while < 1377198644 99241 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1377198652 606323 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of duplicating something complicated enough to be its own company :P < 1377198654 618357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah like selling enterprise Java middleware, whatever the fuck that is < 1377198661 833261 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, good point < 1377198671 395189 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well Red Hat is huge and Ksplice was tiny so shrug < 1377198673 44874 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they could do it < 1377198678 973546 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Red Hat has many of the top kernel people in the world < 1377198708 532589 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so does Oracle) < 1377198731 870900 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1377198743 180719 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who pays Torvalds btw? < 1377198749 596214 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux Foundation thingy still? < 1377198758 856935 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure < 1377198765 188658 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care enough to Google it for you < 1377198775 778814 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION googles it < 1377198776 702227 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Running Red Hat Enterprise Linux? Get a taste of one of the many features Oracle Linux Premier Support has to offer with our free 30-day Ksplice trial for RHEL systems." < 1377198784 792314 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh can you pay for it if you're on RHEL < 1377198791 778257 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do they just say "ok, now switch to Oracle Linux" < 1377198794 986739 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you can pay for Oracle support for RHEL < 1377198801 85301 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since they're basically the same thing ;P < 1377198802 717190 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you should read the Ksplice paper < 1377198807 883600 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: uh looks like no < 1377198809 945550 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :When your trial ends, we'd be happy to help you make the switch to Oracle Linux Premier Support so you can enjoy Ksplice for as long as you want. < 1377198817 523918 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1377198832 489199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the coolest part of the Ksplice tech is the way we use a dynamic un-linker to find non-exported things (to patch them or refer to them from new code) < 1377198834 69251 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"here is a free trial for a single feature of our operating system; once it's over we'll help you switch the entire thing" < 1377198851 898150 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah well like I said, it's the only different feature ;) < 1377198871 630443 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lunch, brb < 1377199498 996845 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377200469 276753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't. But snapshots are certainly a possibility. < 1377200523 762756 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get the point of ubuntu vs. kubuntu vs. xubuntu... It just seems like a different default package selection + different logo package to me < 1377200536 439296 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or have I missed something? < 1377200568 245521 :dan200!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :^v < 1377200583 896360 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1377200673 75181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all due to bantu grammar, really. hth. < 1377200828 129206 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1377200848 740591 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that must be one of the best reasons to explain anything I have ever seen. when I'll have kids, I'll use that one profusely :D < 1377200872 809497 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :assbuntu < 1377200906 236734 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, heh < 1377200958 670361 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think any other distro makes different versions based on the DE. Not that I know of at least < 1377200999 983779 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is usually, "select whichever DE the fuck you want" during the installer. Or defaults to one and then easily lets you change after < 1377201011 627966 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is running MATE on Debian atm for example. < 1377201078 753757 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I the only fluxboxer left on the planet? < 1377201123 43850 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried it, but I never found it to be the best alternative at the time. < 1377201127 516348 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Mint, I think, technically has "Linux Mint N Xfce", "Linux Mint N KDE", etc. -- where N is the version number -- as different versions. < 1377201141 194465 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that there's probably any more difference between them than Xubuntu/etc. < 1377201146 138750 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :These days I use xfce or MATE, depending on the system specs < 1377201159 659123 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, right < 1377201164 273821 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I used two "box" wm's. < 1377201182 794469 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "openbox" a window manager? < 1377201188 808072 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently so. I think I've used it. < 1377201199 870116 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Must've made a great impression.) < 1377201214 404658 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :openbox is nice, except for the horrendous XML part. < 1377201217 169512 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the other box might've been fluxbox for all I know. < 1377201220 57503 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I started on KDE 2 (or early 3? I don't remember, whatever Red Hat 5 shipped with), then a bit of KDE 3 followed by Gnome 2. Followed by Xfce, followed by MATE < 1377201239 574108 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started on fvwm95 and I'm not ashamed at all. (That might be a bit of a lie.) < 1377201260 155650 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well technically I believe I started on twm, trying to figure out what the hell was going wrong at the time < 1377201273 909568 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which wasn't easy since I was a newbie at that point < 1377201286 890194 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started on KDE2 I think (whatever Mandrake had ten years ago), then hopped among the whole bunch like an addict trying to get high on something new and dubious. < 1377201300 606326 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fvwm95 wasn't too hard to figure out as a new user, unsurprisingly. < 1377201304 21720 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wm2 left a good impression. sadly, it was a *tad* underpowered. < 1377201320 757189 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, isn't that win9x-inspired or something? < 1377201324 382186 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is that LXDE? < 1377201332 833264 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fvwm is neat, but to have a successful configuration file you need to spend at least 25 hours per day on it. < 1377201338 845288 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a win9x-inspired variant of fvwm. < 1377201345 609973 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, never used wm2, never heard of it. What is it about? < 1377201347 485685 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I feel icewm is the most windowsian of them all. < 1377201347 910013 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I tried out Enlightenment but my computer wasn't fast enough to run it. < 1377201360 920904 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Then I just used WindowMaker for years.) < 1377201379 538244 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1377201384 149132 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I think you can still compile it, but you may have some difficulties as it was originally for X10 or somesuch. < 1377201385 300631 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enlightenment, the bling of the bling < 1377201396 539091 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, hah < 1377201399 134772 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: http://xwinman.org/wm2.php < 1377201431 629059 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I never got the hang of windowmaker. always got confused by that papercornerclip thingie. < 1377201457 996004 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I remember the thingie, but not really much about the thingie. < 1377201470 313482 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377201471 190136 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could dock other little squares next to it or something. < 1377201478 500028 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I seem to recall there was a row of squares. < 1377201614 19246 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :dan200 < 1377201721 471230 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :an < 1377201730 748071 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, disregard that. < 1377201741 706044 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: your becoming as clear and explicit as I am. I don't think that's a good thing. please remain understandable. < 1377201751 130985 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck an < 1377201751 439854 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The form of a used before words beginning with a vowel or with an unpronounced h: an elephant; an hour. < 1377201760 635985 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it was just clumsy fingers. < 1377201771 718986 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/your/you're/ < 1377201779 815619 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as small keyboards go, this one is okay (personal opinion alert), but it's still small. < 1377201808 91400 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was aiming for ^a-n, actually.) < 1377201822 710539 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking for a nice and compact keyboard online, but everywhere I looked it was at least a hundred bucks to get an electro-mechanical piece of plastic. < 1377201829 581994 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck ^a-n < 1377201829 772172 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377201890 350204 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: This is the Microsoft Wedge; but it's a small Bluetooth keyboard, which might well not be what you're looking for. < 1377201913 640057 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm just using it with the Nexus 7 on trips.) < 1377201928 244557 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything that has keys, no keypad, and a long tracking with quality keys. < 1377201960 809502 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's got the first two. < 1377201964 9263 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and that I can play crawl on it. no weird key layout. < 1377201982 36021 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cursor keys on this (and too many others) are slightly weird. < 1377201998 767926 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a problem. I vimified everything on my machine a long time ago. < 1377202009 505974 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's this [left][half-height up-and-down keys][right] kind of arrangement. < 1377202012 807292 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my cursor keys are gathering dust (as is the unused keypad) < 1377202036 542597 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has this "keyboard cover turns into a tablet stand" feature which happens to fit the Nexus 7 (in portrait mode) quite nicely. < 1377202045 413304 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, xwinman.org was nice, there are all those window managers I've used and forgotten! < 1377202053 230902 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if I'd buy this for a general-purpose keyboard, though. < 1377202102 318210 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some cow orkers use a typematrix. I tried one for about an hour. the feeling of unfengshuiness that emanated from that horror... bletch! < 1377202119 711003 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean. having your 'b' key divorced from your 'n' key. the horror! < 1377202129 558703 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I am snob and bourgeois and I like that.) < 1377202183 461151 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: This is me, signing off. Probably rebooting or something. < 1377202216 659105 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have to go to a funeral that's like 530-or-so kilometres from where I live, and it's at noon tomorrow, so we drove here tonight because leaving at something like 3-4am, driving for six-seven hours, going to a funeral, then driving back home the same day didn't sound very appealing.) < 1377202247 102744 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Train schedules were a bit iffy.) < 1377202273 898094 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377202450 489024 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck youtube. It is cutting videos short all the time for me nowdays. < 1377202465 650851 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is so bad that I stopped watching in my browser, now I use a script calling youtube-dl in a loop until the return code is 0, then watch in vlc < 1377202483 329440 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :atm, I have a terminal with maybe 10 or so lines like: ERROR: content too short (expected 263738018 bytes and served 15169721) < 1377202612 297409 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah: I ran this Android demo, and now I've got the kewlers middle-finger logo stuck in the alt-tab menu; it's like this tablet is giving me the finger. < 1377202640 269762 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, or maybe the alt-tab menu follows the app history whateveritscalled dealie, where you can drag things off. < 1377202654 663756 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, it does. < 1377202655 243297 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, alt-tab on a tablet? What? < 1377202680 413606 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I'm using it with an external keyboard. (See above for details, though they're not especially interesting.) < 1377202696 365517 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I never tried alt-tab on my phone < 1377202706 165775 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should, I have an USB OTG cable < 1377202725 906362 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, alt-tab is mapped to the thingy? or did you have to add an app for that? < 1377202736 502545 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I didn't add anything, it was already there. < 1377202743 101075 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It's a different UI to it, though. < 1377202755 735315 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It only shows the last eight entries, and it's very much like the win9x alt-tab menu. < 1377202780 941130 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For the record, this is a stock Android 4.2.2.) < 1377202835 464730 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh indeed, cool < 1377202855 941050 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, Last 4 for me on my phone < 1377202884 317569 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no, last 8 < 1377202888 676470 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it goes to 2 rows < 1377203038 245556 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds very similar. < 1377203198 459825 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I also found it by accident, basically thought "it would be nice to be able to use something like alt-tab to switch programs" "hmm" "I guess I could try it".) < 1377203235 150717 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, how do you get non-US layout? < 1377203270 12853 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, this worked with its printed (Finnish) layout without doing anything. < 1377203277 217777 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a Bluetooth and not a USB keyboard, though. < 1377203281 907168 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :USB? < 1377203287 304400 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or BT? < 1377203315 761982 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm can't get past the pattern lock with the keyboard XD < 1377203332 491264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Settings / Language and Input seems to have a "Physical keyboard" entry for it, at least. < 1377203352 670505 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : Really? < 1377203359 575264 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :which android version? < 1377203363 646653 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :CM10.1 here < 1377203368 926884 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stock 4.2.2. < 1377203382 179939 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stock as in Nexus? < 1377203385 971501 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1377203393 5569 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's a Nexus 7.) < 1377203400 988225 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And the keyboard was BT, if you missed that.) < 1377203405 740746 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't Nexus 7 on 4.3 now? < 1377203417 189743 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is, but I haven't bothered to update yet. < 1377203422 54057 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1377203425 639311 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rooted? < 1377203427 590477 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also I've heard rumours there's worse battery life on 4.3.) < 1377203431 321431 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1377203627 354747 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know how to put scissor switch keycaps back on properly < 1377203663 122048 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is especially annoying because only half of it came off and taking off the other half looks unwise :/ < 1377203665 3439 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you need to hook them on from one end usually and then press down the other end to clip that end on < 1377203672 924468 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hooked at one end < 1377203681 232266 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pressing down from the other end not so successful < 1377203687 463128 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've always understood the correct answer is "with great difficulty". < 1377203695 135328 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I can take a picture < 1377203721 939821 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well if it was the wrong end that got lose you might need to take it off entirely and put it back < 1377203723 318219 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though what Vorpal described more or less worked on the one keyboard where I had to do it.) < 1377203738 684912 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :the method I described worked fine on my old ibook and also my thinkpad < 1377203746 676630 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other end looks pretty scarily attached (as in I am not sure I could reattach it if it came off) < 1377203749 993673 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the ibook I took them off once to clean the bloody thing < 1377203750 138046 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :will try to take a picture later < 1377203784 915678 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, The spacebar and possibly some other big keys usually have a metal bar under as well that need to hook into some slots < 1377203809 796618 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The space bar in my iBook cracked so that there was this long diagonal cut in it, it was kind of weird. < 1377203816 196351 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never had that happen to a key before. < 1377203818 657082 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1377203842 130205 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It didn't go all the way from top-to-bottom, there was just this \ there. < 1377203853 209286 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine it would be much harder to deattach or reattach keys if you have those spaced keys with stuff inbetween? < 1377203853 768339 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice, it looks like I can have either end connected < 1377203863 420341 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I push it it switches which end is connected, if I pull it it goes back < 1377203865 382352 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but never both < 1377203870 86609 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, lol what < 1377203891 872711 :nooodl!~nooodl@109.129.65.50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377203902 236808 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway it is usually one end that have the hooks (the upper in both cases that I had), and the other end that has the clip on bit < 1377203903 921420 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh is there a simple way to take photos on Windows so I can show this < 1377203915 319861 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ? < 1377203921 249001 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :on windows phone? < 1377203924 536056 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd assume so < 1377203926 513455 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1377203934 379517 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or what are you talking about < 1377203937 518408 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know there is a computer operating system by Microsoft Corporation called Windows < 1377203953 128373 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't easily take photos with a fixed built in web cam I'd assume < 1377203961 170973 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you have a freestanding one? < 1377203971 558188 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck lemur < 1377203971 783446 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemur definition: any of various arboreal chiefly nocturnal prosimian primates (superfamily Lemuroidea) that were formerly widespread but are now largely confined to Madagascar and that usually have a longish muzzle, large eyes, very soft woolly fur, and a long furry tail. < 1377203983 340033 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, why not? < 1377203985 991549 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the drivers for it < 1377203989 408556 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flash stuff can access it < 1377204021 224542 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, If it is fixed to the top of the screen, I would doubt it can catch the keyboard (unless it is not the built in keyboard in the laptop < 1377204031 535280 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an external keyboard < 1377204036 693869 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah makes sense then < 1377204037 367904 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the built in one is also broken < 1377204062 443485 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway we would probably need a high quality macro to make out the details of those tiny little switches < 1377204106 585223 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I don't know how to take a photo with the webcam < 1377204131 875124 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can open a Skype chat and ask the other end to take a screenshot. :p < 1377204139 285544 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I need to sleep. Going to work tomorrow. Getting in the car at around 06:50. < 1377204150 206272 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good nighyt < 1377204152 484113 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :night* < 1377204167 704277 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably sleep too, on account of the aforementioned funeral. < 1377204167 954730 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night Vorpal < 1377204178 861544 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ouch what happened? < 1377204183 79230 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well good night < 1377204197 37457 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And condolences and so on < 1377204236 387066 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It was something kind of expected -- dying at the age of 87 doesn't quite count as a life tragically cut short -- so we're not all that shocked about it. < 1377204245 348373 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good fizzienight. < 1377204246 602081 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah good < 1377204252 893145 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it would still probably be bad form to drop the coffin out of tiredness or something. < 1377204265 707960 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, Quite, no urn? < 1377204265 936958 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this photo-taking program really want to run fullscreen < 1377204270 438324 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'll have to be part of the people carrying the thing.) < 1377204314 411067 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: There was a regular gravestone apparently already waiting. < 1377204325 618872 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Where her husband is buried.) < 1377204334 794984 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need special gravestone for urn burial? < 1377204335 835011 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1377204344 645572 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1377204347 406589 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :accidentally removed the key < 1377204352 164773 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :while trying to hold it to take a picture < 1377204358 565695 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean, there was a gravestone at the regular cemetery, so I guess she wanted to be buried there. < 1377204386 905719 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think urns get deposited in a different place? I don't know, I haven't killed... I mean, been in very many funerals.) < 1377204396 518398 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, but don't they support cremation at the regular cemetery? < 1377204400 37312 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay so are you supposed toattach it from the bottom or the top < 1377204412 773161 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: (I think Vorpal is doing the moralising thing.) < 1377204418 83890 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ah, on my keyboard it is top to bottom I believe < 1377204427 129594 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377204470 803803 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no, I'm just confused, as I never heard of anyone not getting cremated these days. I thought it was pretty rare to skip that. Or is that just a Swedish thing? < 1377204507 275718 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I didn't really have much to do with this side of the thing. But I was under the impression that they only bury regular coffins in the "standard" cemetery spots, and have a different place for urns. < 1377204518 29838 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And cremation certainly isn't the default in Finland. < 1377204518 960496 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1377204535 523231 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting how customs differ between cultures < 1377204543 272 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess then that is what makes a culture < 1377204546 151755 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh I hope I haven't broken this < 1377204561 768138 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :europe is weird < 1377204562 918039 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I found them fairly easy to reattach < 1377204572 177167 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, how so? < 1377204575 854575 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Scandinavian countries' cremation rate vary from Finland's and Norway's 36% to Sweden's 70% and Denmark's 76%." < 1377204593 827212 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ain't Estonia also in Scandinavia? < 1377204610 188879 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: less than half of dead here are cremated < 1377204610 334139 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1377204610 334318 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Haven't you read satw? Certainly not. :p < 1377204615 359 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always confuse Scandinavia and Nordic < 1377204615 339801 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay I "reattached" it < 1377204620 823107 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it's back to how it was when it popped off a little < 1377204628 860075 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, here being? < 1377204632 152571 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :us < 1377204633 82604 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can still switch which part it's attached to < 1377204639 316804 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1377204641 809928 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: of course I do read satw. it's just a personal opinion on the matter :D < 1377204662 602197 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :slightly worried that this is not going to be a thing that is fixable < 1377204669 672162 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, guess some bit of plastic is slightly broken then? < 1377204679 242285 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it attaches perfectly to both ends individually < 1377204682 41665 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just... not at the same time < 1377204688 570175 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why... < 1377204691 778677 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :beats me < 1377204698 215272 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :how peculiar < 1377204710 173787 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you should take an xray of other keys and compare < 1377204718 64558 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :for science < 1377204720 113768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I literally just switched to this one a couple of days ago < 1377204723 530766 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :keyboards hate me < 1377204729 585666 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland's inclusion in the term "Scandinavia" is also quite debated. < 1377204729 926191 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so warranty then? < 1377204741 121804 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, is it a Nordic country then? < 1377204754 583279 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if I get it fixed then I'll need a new keyboard to use in the interim < 1377204758 618586 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I might as well just buy a new one if anything < 1377204779 593282 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, just go back to the shop and demand a new one? < 1377204790 937337 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could argue that physical stores exist < 1377204797 148557 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah... < 1377204808 904037 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I would think it's at least that. But some do count us as part of Scandinavia too. < 1377204817 678889 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you could use an on-screen keyboard meanwhile? < 1377204823 37747 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha ha < 1377204826 598495 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though we're not all that much on the Scandinavian Peninsula, except maybe the northern bit. < 1377204847 299098 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I'm sure that is what Windows 9 will use, judging by the way of windows 8 < 1377204848 220326 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay yeah, time to just get used to my f key being slightly fucked for now I guess < 1377204856 993309 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was satw right about scotland getting a free pass into the whole nordic thing < 1377204864 865040 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :slightly ducked 4 now < 1377204870 502678 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what keyboard model (so I can avoid?) < 1377204876 365388 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not voting yes on a referendum that puts me in a room with the swedes < 1377204885 503853 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\?)/)?/ < 1377204893 6299 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itertools.groupby() is completely brain damaged. < 1377204896 327698 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'd prefer a room with swedes to a room with england < 1377204897 262555 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1377204916 158312 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :worst decision ever < 1377204929 34056 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: uh this is probably more me than the keyboard < 1377204936 533664 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's some Kensington scissor-switch thing that I doubt you'd buy anyway < 1377204940 458417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1377204942 990792 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how fucking hard do you hit those keys!? < 1377204964 309005 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't, I just habitually poke my fingers in the gaps < 1377204970 170768 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1377204976 734609 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is pretty stupid yes < 1377205021 915874 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, my old keyboard lasted for.... 11 years? Then some sort of controller broke. It was PS/2. < 1377205036 960648 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like a third of the keys just stopped working < 1377205056 613923 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt my current USB keyboard will last as long. Build quality isn't what it used to be. < 1377205124 168252 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :night really now < 1377205307 921921 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god dammit, it got more broken < 1377205689 824464 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rust stdlib has a type named Finallyalizer < 1377205789 742595 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you see http://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/3575 < 1377205841 158646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think so < 1377206038 277945 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres a bottom milestone. heh. < 1377206045 861629 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/theres/there's/ < 1377206143 650595 :impomatic!~chatzilla@87.115.45.148 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377206335 489820 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377206490 877901 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377207221 589611 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377207434 675958 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377208189 321341 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377208325 823979 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377208890 76370 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Godweather II < 1377208924 435885 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's hope the metro will work tonight... < 1377208926 543576 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1377208933 328083 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377208981 918622 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377210005 628077 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1377210605 255607 :augur!~augur@pool-108-28-201-100.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377211314 704409 :impomatic!~chatzilla@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1377211701 233910 :augur!~augur@pool-108-28-201-100.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377211831 286425 :augur!~augur@pool-108-28-201-100.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377212914 685839 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: How... how exactly do you like Moxie? < 1377213045 62393 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Because it is the most delicious thing ever made. < 1377213070 510287 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its flavor is best described as "medicinal".. < 1377213114 321232 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try holding your nose when testing it for the true Gregor experience < 1377213116 330450 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tasting < 1377213120 453466 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha < 1377213131 703425 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a good call. < 1377213138 922472 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably fnarfs better than it tastes. < 1377213161 61308 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think any of you is passing the turing test right now < 1377213163 490974 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does in fact fnarf better than it tastes. < 1377213196 687948 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Fnarf. Noun. That particular sense analogous to taste that only anosmics experience regularly. < 1377213208 110172 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anosmics < 1377213209 86294 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1377213227 122793 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, the fnarf of it isn't bad. < 1377213270 36484 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you like just drink some < 1377213276 713811 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION juggles some chainsaws < 1377213307 930708 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes, I found a bottle of Moxie and purchased it on a whim. < 1377213339 228829 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taste-wise, well. It's better than Tentacle Grape? < 1377213380 993192 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've no idea how that fnarfs, but it tastes like tentacle grape. < 1377213439 750561 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Is it not meant to be served cold or something? < 1377213451 355873 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enjoy cold with deliciousness. < 1377213590 732110 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377213595 841915 :dan200!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377213804 342132 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377213883 186012 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377214728 224615 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377214741 762685 :augur!~augur@pool-108-28-201-100.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote 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:carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377233635 928648 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkcd is pretty good again < 1377233801 655622 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1377234887 383304 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/345182258 < 1377234945 697868 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"one crazy scholar decided Jesus was physically disabled and that this had such-and-so effects on his psychology as a child and as an adult." ok, i need to see this. < 1377234976 497142 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway why are you linking this < 1377235096 528622 :ert!~ert@gunwo.6irc.net.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377235252 603224 :ert!~ert@gunwo.6irc.net.pl QUIT :Client Quit < 1377235264 566702 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :best completely random book I've read: < 1377235353 999635 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, can't seem to find it :( < 1377235362 723358 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow letdown. < 1377235457 282158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you gotta have a probability distribution on books first < 1377235523 335016 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.amazon.com/When-Science-Wrong-Simon-LeVay/dp/0452289327 < 1377235525 749498 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1377237054 713790 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1377237065 117988 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks cute < 1377237082 688795 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1377238706 91934 :dan200!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377238913 946249 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377239333 379623 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377241001 283088 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1377241012 779550 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377241410 127319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1377242084 400573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<coppro> hmm, can't seem to find it :( <-- try a completely random place hth < 1377242455 493317 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377245619 327724 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377245841 614697 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1377246025 874132 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377246664 784880 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet 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ZZZzzz... < 1377257695 734463 :nooodl!~nooodl@178-119-143-49.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377258023 716225 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1377258952 174117 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377259868 941674 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377260604 598672 :impomatic!~chatzilla@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212] < 1377261935 462269 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Mozilla/5.0 < 1377261940 669115 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377262216 782554 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs Mozilla/5.0 < 1377262255 622453 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.26459 < 1377262621 944434 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, google drive blocks you based on user-agent < 1377262647 676730 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no, it does not understand Mozilla/5.0 AppleWebKit KHTML Gecko Chrome Safari < 1377263078 647874 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377263439 38345 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377264310 629827 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377264396 927394 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377264502 935393 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377264687 457864 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYMX < 1377264687 848533 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYMX 231300Z 36007KT 45SM FEW015 FEW210 17/11 A3008 RMK CF1CI1 CF TR CI TR SLP187 DENSITY ALT 300FT < 1377264979 86921 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377266773 502808 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar Mordor < 1377266773 819475 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1377266776 335734 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awwww < 1377267078 483521 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377267900 137860 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377267923 716468 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377268171 604519 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's pretty nice: https://github.com/bolknote/SedChess < 1377268396 921867 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377268449 729483 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1377268601 939203 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377268955 261371 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377269049 186857 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1377269196 251687 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, my RPi had OOMed < 1377269345 191215 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That took me a while to get =P < 1377269347 153876 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... why? < 1377270238 175967 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1377270479 832419 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did it OOM? < 1377270906 208971 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377271300 923992 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377271634 733332 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377272604 700340 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last time I went OOM, a couple of people died < 1377272871 937494 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377274046 680320 :nooodl!~nooodl@178-119-143-49.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377274748 880381 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oom is horrible, linux *never* chooses the right process < 1377274773 847337 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, git running out of memory? kill mysql and corrupt the database! < 1377274818 751489 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1377274819 919549 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377275787 103533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1377275974 282750 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1377276012 603384 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377276349 874089 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377276796 485807 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1377276806 675727 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377276956 711253 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377277970 355125 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1377277983 710180 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377278105 468223 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377278136 171576 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Client Quit < 1377278304 928245 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1377278718 227051 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377279558 351660 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377279719 648760 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal NICK :Vorpal < 1377279807 981607 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What *are* those strange oblong plastic sticker things with metal strips inside you sometimes find in products you got from a shop? < 1377279851 584545 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the things that makes the beepers go beep if you don't pay < 1377279921 483227 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, why would I find it in something I got from cdon though??? < 1377279924 299173 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they resonate to produce a radio pulse when activated by the exit gates - a large magnet at the register destroys parts of the circuits so it stops working) < 1377279944 331026 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, Also, isn't that usually larger things that sprays colors if you try to remove them iirc? < 1377279968 618566 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are *circuits* inside? Looks like 3 plain metal strips simply < 1377279974 382993 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are, you know, several alternative systems for theft prevention < 1377279978 609376 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1377280014 370326 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, yeah in this one it is just 3 plain metal strips < 1377280051 556109 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are probably other layers of the sticker that combine those strips into some sort of coil-like thing < 1377280112 397491 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_article_surveillance < 1377280135 98710 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, ah it is one of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Acousto-magnetic-tag-cutaway.jpg < 1377281272 280968 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1377281476 629520 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377281477 16951 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377281554 265041 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377282095 946497 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377282162 618979 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377284595 757820 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1377284646 556353 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Augmented assignments are not unique to python. They are found in C, Java, Perl, Go, Ruby, JavaScript etc. One could argue that if they were so terrible, they would never have made it to so many programming languages...." < 1377284736 91653 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there people who are enormously against +=? < 1377284746 39056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know < 1377284766 445180 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody said "I think augmented assignments are a terrible ideas and one of the worst features of python" but declined to follow up on that statement in any way < 1377284813 706234 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's an augmented assignement? +=? < 1377284852 219755 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377284866 958218 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently < 1377284871 275148 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :was not familiar with the term before today < 1377284911 659290 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell has them if you have lenses < 1377285113 466858 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (+=) < 1377285114 462785 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Num a, MonadState s m) => ASetter' s a -> a -> m () < 1377285142 212171 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (_1 += 3) `runState` (5, True) < 1377285144 162283 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : ((),(8,True)) < 1377285155 798535 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: lol @ popularity argument. < 1377285239 266066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (both += 3) `runState` (1, 42) < 1377285241 111093 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : ((),(4,45)) < 1377285257 908741 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like you're really coding C! < 1377285557 699257 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is 'both' only working for a pair? < 1377285564 198878 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in not for triples < 1377285623 248120 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (1,2,3,4) & each +~ 3 < 1377285625 593550 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : (4,5,6,7) < 1377285673 56976 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels like you're making stuff up along the way < 1377285766 412058 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1377285773 225716 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\rainbow{lenses} < 1377285782 508147 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also \rainbow{prisms} < 1377285799 567682 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :prisms are some kind of dual to lenses and you're required to listen to dark side of the moon when you use them < 1377285915 426248 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :prisms are p. great imo < 1377285979 477744 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1377286118 719718 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377286478 386656 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the issue here is that you might want to overload += separately from +, for efficiency, but then you can break the equivalence a += b <=> a = a + b < 1377286496 665497 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377286556 486362 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what "NOTE: Packets from the Internet are evenly transmitted to the wired and wireless devices." means < 1377286849 201014 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377286910 319324 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377287629 597207 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It simplifies routing if instead of actually giving each packet to the appropriate target, you just go round-robin. < 1377287719 888107 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's probably what it means < 1377288606 17161 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The future's in our hands in our hands and we will never be the same again... < 1377288644 952899 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear has oerjan started lensing < 1377288676 153432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um i did that a while ago < 1377288699 874010 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry I haven't been paying attention < 1377288705 650826 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, get out while you still can < 1377288707 614731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :used them in my emmental building program < 1377288792 76642 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was that? < 1377288834 931315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Emmental#Computability_class < 1377289112 939497 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377289155 939298 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you see that dragon curve I drew using Haskell? < 1377289167 356482 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1377289169 245405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1377289184 983640 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oh dear oerjan started lasing" < 1377289220 654284 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.vandoorn.talktalk.net/Nathan's_Stuff/d.svg < 1377289241 391640 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source code: http://lpaste.net/92030 < 1377289294 136147 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're using Diagrams! < 1377289295 910285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that library rocks < 1377289300 951855 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know! < 1377289354 974233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i looked at it the other day and saw a comment that it generated inefficient svg. < 1377289412 110023 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the problem is that it generates SVGs inefficiently < 1377289521 812280 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1377289709 688308 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is actively being worked on < 1377289716 352194 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my program is now being used as a benchmark < 1377289769 207594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1377289985 824584 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the source generated is pretty good for what is essentially one really wiggly line < 1377290142 566882 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1377290882 686103 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377291339 53606 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actual quote from a book I am reading: "Possibly the Romans would not have hampered themselves by this unfortunate inversion if humans reproduced by external fertilization like frogs." < 1377291375 206872 :nooodl!~nooodl@178-119-143-49.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377291501 273819 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it mean? I don't know! < 1377291651 586102 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377291654 495989 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I think I've just joined an anime society < 1377292230 616821 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratsneb < 1377292292 859321 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even at uni yet! < 1377292475 638982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :university is a fine time to experiment with anime < 1377292832 889532 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had an anime club at my university. they... 'experiment' a lot < 1377293155 461389 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://spritesmods.com/?art=hddhack nice < 1377293177 456144 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he eventually ... installs linux on his hard drive!) < 1377293196 629326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: oh? < 1377293223 775222 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they share room with the gay lesbian and bi club < 1377293238 176725 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with the first-aid club < 1377293343 517105 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like a recipe for very safe disaster < 1377293402 623308 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1377293508 766691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: I'm close to falling asleep, though. < 1377293917 705180 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I came to a disconcerting realization today < 1377293937 753811 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There could easily be people alive who have a great-great grandparent younger than my grandmother < 1377294068 230835 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377294186 379542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the part of my brain that registers disconcertingness can't deal with the complexity of that statement < 1377294189 380145 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm safe < 1377294269 34166 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My gran's 86, right? < 1377294337 317249 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: wrong! < 1377294341 213495 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1377294343 342257 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that greater than a great-great grandparent? < 1377294458 739163 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377294469 949679 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377294743 84887 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377295496 320296 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377295515 663543 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377295771 558351 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, assuming it is acceptable to have a child when you are 20 < 1377295801 550274 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A child born today could have parents who are 20, grandparents who are 40, great-grandparents who are 60, great-great-grandparents who are 80 < 1377296259 964553 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1377296546 524311 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lot of 20 in a row < 1377296617 19703 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why don't you have a child already? < 1377296623 126574 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377296634 950728 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe because he's not 20 yet? < 1377296656 373761 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's a work in progress then < 1377297071 106018 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377297306 863324 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377297334 873738 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ab5:99ff:fef3:f256 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377297392 5143 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just watched the subtext demo and it is pretty cool < 1377298129 320907 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1377298146 737315 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1377298228 524049 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1377299165 970389 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Singularity IS TOO coming soon. Ray the K says, & he knows» lol < 1377299181 384500 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION blinks < 1377299202 715593 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Singularity Institute sold the name "Singularity" to Kurzweil because they were sick of being confused with him < 1377299212 55988 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now SingInst is MIRI -- Machine Intelligence Research Institute < 1377299218 951163 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Kurzweil works at Google (???) < 1377299220 740834 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, nice < 1377299223 448371 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's he do? < 1377299233 912322 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume he wanders the hallways rambling < 1377299236 831130 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reading stuff maybe < 1377299249 215332 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or uh, i don't know much about him, did he just finance that or actually engineer it < 1377299277 618841 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: uh, I think they sold it to Singularity University < 1377299289 239791 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh Kurzweil co-founded < 1377299292 434880 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i refuse to believe most of these organizations exist btw < 1377299355 10688 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was in response to "NEUROHULK" which i just found out exists. glad < 1377299368 72194 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :niiiiiice < 1377299387 485026 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"AFTER ISOLATING THE STOMATOGASTRIC GANGLION THE TAIL WAS FROZEN FOR LATER USE IN LAB LOBSTER COOKOFF #OVERLYHONESTMETHODS" < 1377299395 637869 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1377299445 275017 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of wonder if they actually do that. i mean there /are/ a lot of lobsters involved here....... < 1377299456 33364 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1377299519 939053 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems more ethical to kill animals for research if you also eat them for food < 1377300893 510926 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1377302063 813466 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty darned easy to set up an organization. < 1377302382 818427 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, even I've set up an organization once < 1377302391 977486 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a piece of cake to bake a pretty cake < 1377302393 499770 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it was an anime society) < 1377302646 330128 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :in retrospect, joining the git list then not reading it was kind of pointless... now I just have 9000 mails about git that I'm not going to read < 1377303083 916949 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377303823 671866 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That happened to me, then i just unsubscribed. :-P < 1377304403 785301 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377304406 658179 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377304436 123128 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1377304516 790067 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1377304868 250883 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb: inversion is another name for homosexual < 1377304922 56945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1377304937 691284 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he asked at about 2:30 < 1377304967 636005 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_inversion_(sexology) < 1377304977 89545 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a little bit more complicated than just "old word for 'gay'" I think < 1377305010 750843 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it has different metaphsysics < 1377305050 640126 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :metaphsysics < 1377305061 700095 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I"m in a misuseing words mood today < 1377305343 28281 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a "days until everyone stops talking about Burning Man because they are in the desert" countdown < 1377305915 664920 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1377306158 932815 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1377306709 59985 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377307555 836158 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377307584 586048 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1377307923 132219 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377307940 164290 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377308035 797609 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Client Quit < 1377308060 160045 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377308386 306687 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377308690 907694 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377308736 755627 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377308749 910817 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377308833 87394 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESIs seem kind of strange, like an application-level thing brought to the caching layer for reasons of tehnical necessity rather than conceptual elegancy < 1377308835 77377 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elegance < 1377308843 229803 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i like elegancy < 1377308873 811481 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe caching layers should have some kind of hooks allowing applications to build their own ESI-like things... somehow < 1377308888 515948 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not at all thinking about how that could work < 1377309134 572339 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never seen the word 'copy' used to refer to user-visible strings before starting work, but now, I see it all the time even outside work < 1377309163 294458 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "ad copy"? < 1377309203 103787 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sort of thing, yeah < 1377309318 248469 :nooodl!~nooodl@178-119-143-49.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377309606 700566 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377309868 320320 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :msg lambdabot 'tell taneb This might help with your quote about greeks and frogs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_inversion_(sexology) < 1377309874 216782 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woops < 1377310051 690779 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1377310081 267492 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1377310744 66946 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice http://adainitiative.org/2013/08/galois-makes-1000-matching-donation-challenge-to-support-women-in-open-source/ < 1377311041 262315 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1377311371 278896 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377313318 928669 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377315379 418143 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377315593 232923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: who's water bill and why did you owe him money < 1377315619 375233 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1377315735 518620 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1377315776 665759 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1377315782 488677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome jconn < 1377315788 48971 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13jconn: We12l07c10ome to the intern05ational hub for es08oteric prog09rammi14ng 09language design and d09eployme05nt! For more infor05mation, check out our06 wiki: http:12//esolangs12.org/w04i06ki/M10ain_Pag05e12. (For the14 other kind of esot10er08ica, try #esoteric on ir07c.d05al06.net.)10 < 1377315794 318127 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste bin/relcome < 1377315796 259306 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/bin/relcome < 1377315825 783272 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printf '#!/bin/sh\nwelcome "$@" | rainwords\n' > bin/rwlcome && chmod +x bin/rwlcome < 1377315829 561475 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377315830 434489 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rwlcome jconn < 1377315832 817498 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​4jconn: 7Welcome 8to 9the 2international 13hub 6for 4esoteric 7programming 8language 9design 2and 13deployment! 6For 4more 7information, 8check 9out 2our 13wiki: 6http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. 4(For 7the 8other 9kind 2of 13esoterica, 6try 4#esoteric 7on 8irc.dal.net.) < 1377315839 605895 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks better imo < 1377315845 676782 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that already exists I think < 1377315853 988443 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well now it exists... exactly as many times < 1377315854 287313 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you're welcoming a bot :P < 1377315856 630384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kno < 1377315860 418210 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jconn: 2+2 < 1377315860 794810 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: 4 < 1377315864 387157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jconn: fungot < 1377315864 798358 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: |value error: fungot < 1377315865 32644 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: york. richard, i am subiect to a wel-wisht king quit their owne part, can you not reade it? is it thy spirit that thou send'st from thee so far from home, but he weares them not handsomely < 1377315865 394598 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :jconn is the people's hero, elliott < 1377315866 349276 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 1+1 < 1377315866 729635 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 2 < 1377315880 555222 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep -l rainwords -IR bin < 1377315880 699805 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jconn: who taught you that joke? < 1377315881 111660 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: who (taught you that joke ?) < 1377315882 885548 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/rwelcome \ bin/rwlcome < 1377315904 172569 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep -l welcome -IR bin < 1377315905 319930 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/WELCOME \ bin/WeLcOmE \ bin/emoclew \ bin/relcome \ bin/rwelcome \ bin/wehlcohme \ bin/welcome \ bin/welcome \ bin/wow \ bin/zalgreet \ bin/welcome13 \ bin/bienvenido \ bin/rwlcome < 1377315917 152064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome jconn < 1377315919 114406 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1377315927 127642 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wow jafet < 1377315928 981533 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(.ten.lad.cri no ciretose# yrt ,aciretose fo dnik rehto eht roF) .egaP_niaM/ikiw/gro.sgnalose//:ptth :ikiw ruo tuo kcehc ,noitamrofni erom roF !tnemyolped dna ngised egaugnal gnimmargorp ciretose rof buh lanoitanretni eht ot emocleW :tefaj < 1377315929 811327 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomg since when is that there < 1377315952 316650 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep -l rainwords -IR bin | cat -v < 1377315953 598010 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/rwelcome \ bin/rwlcome < 1377315959 813089 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't help but notice `welcome doesn't name the welcomed person! < 1377315961 260703 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep -l welcome -IR bin | cat -v < 1377315962 514767 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/WELCOME \ bin/WeLcOmE \ bin/emoclew \ bin/relcome \ bin/rwelcome \ bin/wehlcohme \ bin/welcome \ bin/^Bwelcome \ bin/wow \ bin/zalgreet \ bin/welcome13 \ bin/bienvenido \ bin/rwlcome < 1377315982 376431 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`emoclew Bike < 1377315984 323324 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(.ten.lad.cri no ciretose# yrt ,aciretose fo dnik rehto eht roF) .egaP_niaM/ikiw/gro.sgnalose//:ptth :ikiw ruo tuo kcehc ,noitamrofni erom roF !tnemyolped dna ngised egaugnal gnimmargorp ciretose rof buh lanoitanretni eht ot emocleW :ekiB < 1377315989 335693 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1377316101 72435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: when are you coming to mountain view < 1377316601 639919 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, I'm biking from Millbrae, plan to arrive in MV around noon < 1377316606 934964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's subject to heavy variance < 1377316655 805654 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :both on my end and because the people I'm meeting may not be in MV by noon < 1377316687 860972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll actually be heading through EPA... should I call you if we're in EPA and have time to stop? < 1377316787 456888 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, when < 1377316802 341803 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking in a couple of weeks or something < 1377316989 576540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1377316994 569301 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was re: tomorrow < 1377317055 99428 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1377317191 482784 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my father is in ca until ~thu so i'll probably not be around epa < 1377317297 256696 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1377317401 266224 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1377318820 939435 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1377319388 434631 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: recreational biking? < 1377320341 719466 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377320504 526944 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1377320630 753130 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1377321767 613466 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, I should get my chain lubed so I can better manage longer rides. < 1377321773 678970 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe I should just get a road bike < 1377321778 11889 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1806558764/st-paul-reincarnated-twice < 1377321789 717726 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of bike do you have Gracenotes? < 1377321875 874134 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Those who donate 10 dollars or more will receive an ebook explaining techniques so they can discover more about their own past lives." < 1377321885 25528 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: not even one backer? that's sad < 1377321891 502143 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :want to pledge $70k now < 1377321912 975710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait only $100 to interview St. Paul the Apostle? < 1377321915 600421 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a p. good deal < 1377321958 434960 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott turns out to be the reincarnation of Jo of Bethlehem, who once jostled Jesus Christ in a line to pick up oranges and quickly apologized < 1377322001 28091 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :im the reincarnation of the fig tree that jesus yelled at for no reason < 1377322024 484972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: did you read that one book < 1377322033 57868 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, i was a cambodian rice farmer. you jerks get all the attention < 1377322036 913610 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: help < 1377322054 908170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: bulgakov < 1377322071 199446 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Experience: Rice farmer, self-employed, 1523-present < 1377322073 786785 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Master and Margarita? yeah < 1377322078 540391 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Skills: Rice farming, cultivation of rice, MS Office < 1377322106 660352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :education: rice < 1377322109 803932 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was funny realizing it was the only book i'd read that had parts set in roman judea < 1377322111 883188 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1377322127 119989 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wow, you'd think people would have covered this more often" < 1377322148 273449 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pkd thought we were all secretly living in roman judea < 1377322150 630128 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1377322156 626176 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pink laser beam from outer space told him this < 1377322173 871616 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but he didn't like, depict rome, except insofar as depicting 1970s california and saying it was secretly rome < 1377322213 243263 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus valis was kind of too crazy to be much of a novel. the divine invasion had more of a plot imooooo < 1377322218 496379 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje < 1377322525 939077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: did you read that other book < 1377322537 131269 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude......... < 1377322542 742530 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1377322547 511832 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't even have a book in mind that time < 1377322550 700923 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what other................................... < 1377322568 628777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just hoping that you would name one < 1377322586 694060 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :naked lunch? no < 1377322696 317568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have that book < 1377322856 21041 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suddenly want salt water < 1377322859 591223 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Salt water tastes good < 1377322862 406895 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Salt tastes good < 1377322866 492566 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Garlic salt tastes good < 1377322875 625766 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you probably are low on salt < 1377322893 156721 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just had a bunch of salty peanuts < 1377322904 52312 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't had garlic salt since forever :( < 1377322941 479596 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did ancient seafaring people learn that they can't drink the water? < 1377322948 512593 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably by trying it and then puking < 1377322987 970859 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you'd probably puke it before it kills you? < 1377322997 33983 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure, yeah < 1377323025 698527 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also tastes pretty bad; I think you'd have to be pretty desperate for water to get a significant amount down < 1377323031 685305 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case you might die either way < 1377323082 947528 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've tasted a few drops of salt water before, it tastes good < 1377323098 258925 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :try a mouthfull < 1377323132 414200 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you use tmux yet < 1377323163 583205 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitter herbs also taste good < 1377323288 750684 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY is there so much salt in the ocean? < 1377323310 160308 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the water evaporates and the salt stays < 1377323312 486554 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1377323313 175220 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it is millions of years old < 1377323330 613948 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :water washes minerals into the ocean, then evaporates, then rains on the land to do it again < 1377323374 689907 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the saltyness is actually at about equilibrium, extra salt precipitates out < 1377323393 76843 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is water Bill involved < 1377323401 547386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doubt it < 1377323447 918266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lenovo fixed my laptop but also broke it in another way at the same time < 1377323470 435409 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4786 < 1377323475 955072 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/salt/cadmium/ < 1377323720 493091 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Each occurrence of ask obtains the value from its own environment, < 1377323720 676051 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which it finds by type" < 1377323722 385138 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eww < 1377323728 426136 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice ligature < 1377323736 549847 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1377323787 444669 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm http://zem.fi < 1377323789 786739 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :works in chrome :) < 1377323800 239370 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops I probably shouldn't admit to using chrome anymore < 1377323832 985510 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: did you know ^ < 1377323840 12981 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or should i say fizzie < 1377323885 180794 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Firefox starting to become usable again? < 1377323890 531089 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know extensions are more powerful < 1377323897 532974 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :2600 uses (or at least last time I looked, they did) the "fi" ligature even in fixed-pitch text. I hate that. < 1377323900 472705 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the tabs hit the top of the screen when window maximized < 1377323907 588120 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use FF at work < 1377323913 75549 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't notice a huge difference from chrome < 1377323929 840604 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of FF's UI behaviors are slightly better (I would be hardpressed to say which offhand) < 1377323934 877205 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually-effective adblock? < 1377323940 544109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use adblock < 1377323947 978605 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on my awful 6 year old netbook, chrome is still a lot faster < 1377323963 532861 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That prevents ads loading, not hides... well, I don't either, but there's a different extension I use that would be nice if it could fully block pages < 1377323964 576081 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MyWOT < 1377323974 354905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read somewhere that they removed the <BLINK> command. They broke their promise to not remove that command! < 1377324241 419251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should implement <BLINK> for Servo and submit a pull request < 1377324294 934405 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is Servo? < 1377324315 584747 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are supposed to implement it in Mozilla. < 1377324317 408266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a new web browser rendering engine, written in Rust < 1377324334 447138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a Mozilla project and it's what I work on for my day job < 1377324335 750376 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/mozilla/servo < 1377324369 722420 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, technically they only promised they would not remove the <BLINK> command from the Mozilla engine, not from Servo. < 1377324396 336112 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the new one have a really paranoid mode? < 1377324399 713186 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1377324413 198506 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"turn off the browser" < 1377324669 677274 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I would prefer to see, is the "paranoid web browser" which assumes that the user is really expert (and is a programmer, and gives the user the ability to override absolutely everything), and that the web page is malicious and trying to annoy and slow down the user's computer and put all kinds of fancy pictures and typography which aren't important. < 1377325029 678847 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1377325071 800561 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ab5:99ff:fef3:f256 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377325807 664656 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1377326090 357709 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist 39 < 1377326091 557371 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist 39: shachaf nooodl < 1377326547 223897 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377326567 728077 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope you like this game. < 1377326666 468480 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally I found a use for this astrolabe in the Dungeons&Dragons game. (The DM thought it was completely useless. But why would I purchase such a thing if it is useless?) < 1377327312 770267 :sacje!~sacre@50-81-222-220.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1377327313 299538 :sacje!~sacre@50-81-222-220.client.mchsi.com QUIT :Changing host < 1377327313 444290 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1377327947 258447 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a astrolabe? < 1377328312 299374 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't < 1377328326 938561 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you use yours for < 1377328342 292782 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't actually have any either, but my Dungeons&Dragons character has < 1377328381 639619 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does your character use it for? < 1377328588 891211 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For things that it isn't really suited for, although it could be used to determine how much space is warped < 1377328663 792756 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can be used for other things too, but I haven't use it for that yet. Still, it might be useful for such thing in future. < 1377328844 155206 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It described in the Dungeons&Dragons game recording. < 1377328891 569746 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You may subscribe by filtering on messages starting with "`danddreclist" or by making that program notify you) < 1377329334 812277 :neena!~neena@codesurfers.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1377330965 752255 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377331701 595566 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377332583 686863 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377332896 177423 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377333350 211238 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hello < 1377333356 333617 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a hybrid bike... < 1377333371 304490 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hm, it's a bit late now) < 1377333410 474594 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a medium-weight frame and somewhere in between road and mountain tires < 1377334640 675430 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1377334852 297906 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1377334921 726019 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377335543 988397 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377340646 563734 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1377341029 100691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1377341099 626681 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje < 1377341262 307311 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377341454 632795 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes ddg is just amazing. I googled.. err... ducked? for "linux file systems" and got and alphabetical list right on the result page. < 1377341592 138801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask kmc <kmc> I need a "days until everyone stops talking about Burning Man because they are in the desert" countdown <-- what, why would they stop talking, no cell phone reception there? how quaint! < 1377341592 329124 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377341878 670634 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf <shachaf> kmc: who's water bill and why did you owe him money <-- now i'm imagining this huge redneck guy driving a tank full of water to Burning Man. < 1377341878 816200 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377342009 487868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run diff r/rw{,e}lcome < 1377342011 66134 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :diff: r/rwlcome: No such file or directory \ diff: r/rwelcome: No such file or directory < 1377342015 792723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1377342020 869108 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run diff bin/rw{,e}lcome < 1377342022 171640 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377342028 433331 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1377342042 653977 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377342142 899300 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377342172 197250 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1377342459 250895 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run diff bin/{wow,emoclew} < 1377342460 523561 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377342476 92708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run diff bin/{wow,rwelcome} < 1377342477 561758 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2c2 \ < welcome "$@" | rev | tr \)\( \(\) \ --- \ > welcome "$@" | rainwords < 1377342588 704067 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1377342927 767333 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377343046 733301 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377343453 657091 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, now I'm imagining Burning Man being the Hexham of the West < 1377343557 313902 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1377343562 418710 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1377343688 66582 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am of course utterly unfamiliar with Burning Man < 1377343698 620161 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also regrettably currently unfamiliar with lunch < 1377343706 71376 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can fix the latter, though < 1377343706 768347 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1377344924 417596 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377346460 438319 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377347177 736993 :nooodl!~nooodl@178-119-143-49.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377349094 490244 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377349611 272933 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1377349996 941497 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377350042 335455 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1377350687 815619 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377351264 417323 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377351691 920433 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377352565 506499 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377354401 998694 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377354503 467978 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1377354779 882227 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1377356644 869575 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhat disappointed to learn that "pre-post differencing" and "run-pre matching" are just fancy terms for diffing the old and new kernel, and checking that the "old kernel" in the diff matches the running kernel < 1377356758 616673 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expected something to do with prefixes and postfixes (of functions?) in a novel differencing algorithm and some clever special kind of matching < 1377356859 463801 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ksplice paper) < 1377357002 376362 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ab5:99ff:fef3:f256 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377357514 849788 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ab5:99ff:fef3:f256 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377357900 353937 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377357966 889791 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377358223 302851 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you spent months hacking a kernel binary image, you would want fancy terms for your work too < 1377359496 453087 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377360281 956892 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey guys, I'm typing on Dvorak! Woo. < 1377361215 284961 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1377362609 623797 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377363724 657919 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Don't worry, it doesn't show. < 1377363974 423226 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I just had a major impact in Active Worlds < 1377364071 652810 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you were hit by a car? < 1377364104 48323 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <Sgeo> I think I just had a major impact in Active Worlds <Bike> like you were hit by a car? < 1377364107 929677 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1094) <Sgeo> I think I just had a major impact in Active Worlds <Bike> like you were hit by a car? < 1377364108 858415 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked on the FB group if tourist builds would be protected, now someone in AWI is about to do so for some worlds, apparently < 1377364200 362758 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377364598 548235 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377364600 506968 :heroux_!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377367950 448840 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1377367951 623153 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377368045 884238 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, ok i know this may come as no surprise but that is literally the saddest thing < 1377368126 80701 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1377368259 865682 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that was interesting... Seems like a glitchy power connector on the USB hub for the the RPi's external HDD < 1377368263 44588 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. sure being hit by a car would be sadder "just saying" < 1377368301 929308 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377368333 72613 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, without knowing the context (due to network issues due to RPi issues), I would have to agree < 1377368346 687265 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods < 1377368620 947909 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1377369166 136163 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of those builds are over a decade old, and now random people can't come in and destroy them < 1377369377 401909 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god you have spearheaded the initiative to preserve these cultural treasures < 1377369414 123393 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god? thank Sgeo! < 1377369993 614767 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377370343 284995 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1377371138 145227 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377371211 887972 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1377371219 443275 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Client Quit < 1377371506 735213 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1377371600 465382 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377371729 592004 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1377371747 538253 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1377371857 670081 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377371955 508128 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1377371981 349290 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377372434 728947 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377372945 63002 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's annoying thing: anything that puts up the GTK save/open dialog also causes the (otherwise pretty much unused) disk-with-the-Windows-installation spin up. < 1377374029 102144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1377374183 363300 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1377375145 824317 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahoy. So my senior thesis is about counting the number of words of each length admitted by a context-free language. < 1377375188 642745 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, this is easy enough for unambiguous languages. But for ambiguous ones, I'm pretty much lost. < 1377375236 334069 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't suppose anyone here can suggest any reading? < 1377375238 638688 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: how much enumeration do you know? < 1377375283 136217 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: mm, very little. Binomial coefficients are pretty much the most advanced thing I know there. < 1377375306 743615 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I guess I should read about combinatorics, shouldn't I. < 1377375678 44843 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: yes < 1377375681 656921 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: enumeration specifically < 1377375700 484614 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :enumeration of languages is already a well-studied topic < 1377375716 41503 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :although your problem is, I believe, ultimately undecideable < 1377375751 364747 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. You can calculate it by brute force. < 1377375759 809150 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just found out that SPJ is going to be seminaring at York University next February < 1377375761 195840 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just look through all words of each length, and see which ones are admitted and which ones aren't. < 1377375771 33375 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Given two combinatorial families, \mathcal{F} and \mathcal{G} with generating functions F(x) and G(x) respectively, the union of the two families (\mathcal{F} \cup \mathcal{G}) has generating function F(x) + G(x)." < 1377375777 287196 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should that say "two disjoint combinatorial families"? < 1377375809 965287 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: hmm, right < 1377375813 63539 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was I thinking of, then? < 1377375814 816999 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1377375828 295633 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND PHILIP WADLER NEXT OCTOBER < 1377375838 245084 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: a) yes and b) stop reading wikipedia, go get a real source < 1377375844 104359 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: spj? < 1377375853 235261 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simon Peyton-Jones < 1377375855 523573 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: are you going to be at york? < 1377375860 309140 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I am < 1377375876 301667 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the canadian one? < 1377375880 721584 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1377375890 794966 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not Canadian < 1377375891 335783 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the University of York then < 1377375895 491303 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a prerequisite < 1377375900 890984 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377375903 763425 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'd think you much too smart for our York < 1377375907 610798 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, the University of York < 1377375929 9769 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, your York must really be awful if I'm too smart for it < 1377376003 184305 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :This guy says that several authors have considered the problem of enumerating the number of words of length n generated by G, and gives four examples. < 1377376171 105488 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, i feel like every university but mine has a functional programming great at it < 1377376190 883983 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like apt guy has conor mcbride of all people lecturing him < 1377376279 898898 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Serves you right for going to the Midlands < 1377376325 690459 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure GVSU doesn't have any functional programming greats. < 1377376447 560808 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :York has the grandfather of hlint! < 1377376453 92456 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i was talking about the uk, not australia < 1377376563 832876 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1377376636 375457 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The complexity of counting the number of strings of given length in context-free languages." Why, that's approximately my senior thesis topic. < 1377376717 944609 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah on the same day as Phil Wadler there's Neil Mitchell and Malcolm Wallace also speaking! < 1377376972 670036 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Terry Tao is in ##chess! < 1377376978 510099 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or someone pretending to be him. < 1377378756 814343 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377378909 145092 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to Wouter van Oortmerssen page? < 1377378931 688662 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377378938 287980 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean site < 1377379518 174000 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377379667 465018 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, how are you doing? < 1377379667 950080 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: lowd alarum. enter richard. nay, what hope, what stay, when this was now a coward on instinct: i shall be there < 1377379695 459568 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1377379695 604203 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss* wp youtube < 1377379849 688135 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377379852 160650 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, is it possible to get fungot to join another channel? < 1377379853 276522 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: enter bastard, and pucell. now roan, ile shake thy bulwarkes to the ground, as i am cleare from treason to my soueraigne. in signe whereof, please ye we may contrive this afternoon, and fnord pension beg, to keepe our great saint georges feast withall. ten thousand worse, then euer the bearing of letter did < 1377379909 199289 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1377379909 380135 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://git.zem.fi/fungot/blob/HEAD:/fungot.b98 < 1377379925 580607 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Yes. < 1377379937 302008 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: It doesn't know anything about channels, but I can tell it to ^raw JOIN #somewhere. < 1377379959 501767 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It will then reply to whichever channel it gets a message from.) < 1377380233 583009 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<coppro> what was I thinking of, then? <-- presumably the undecidability of whether a CF grammar is unambiguous in the first place hth < 1377380685 441966 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the University of York has the highest duck to student ratio of any UK university < 1377380703 902938 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also a lake that eats Lancaster University students < 1377380707 897971 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1377380897 194725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet the ducks are behind the lake hth < 1377380909 752806 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that seems to be the theory < 1377380921 957209 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't ducks usually on top of lakes. < 1377380946 100147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant in the metaphorical sense, Bike < 1377380953 916803 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <oerjan> i bet the ducks are behind the lake hth <Bike> aren't ducks usually on top of lakes. < 1377380957 304709 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1095) <oerjan> i bet the ducks are behind the lake hth <Bike> aren't ducks usually on top of lakes. < 1377381045 386568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i somehow don't think that quote works without context < 1377381055 624552 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I agree < 1377381059 616072 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 1095 < 1377381063 306057 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* <oerjan> i bet the ducks are behind the lake hth <Bike> aren't ducks usually on top of lakes. < 1377381094 55873 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why do you stick hth on everything < 1377381095 863291 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1377381104 993136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: to be helpful hth < 1377381123 501716 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's not helpful hth < 1377381129 871881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(above statement may contain lies hth) < 1377381304 575798 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are you today oerjan hth < 1377381626 789374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :awfyl hth < 1377381654 348806 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong hthurts < 1377381871 194029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i've got a bad stomach and people hate my hths hth < 1377381914 227207 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www-student.cs.york.ac.uk/uni_history/lake.html < 1377381920 141539 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When asked how the lake ecology works, Professor Alister Fitter from the Biology department replied, ``Basically, it doesn't.'' < 1377381970 747566 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: a steady input of lancaster student protein? < 1377381979 327192 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps! < 1377382076 49978 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh seems the lake doesn't need more nitrogen < 1377382098 38497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps there is too _much_ lancaster student protein then. < 1377382102 721469 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377382188 13798 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"an ecosystem which leaves the lake looking green, brown and sometimes even glowing" < 1377382197 291261 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1377382413 467107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: your link contains a deficit of mentions of lancaster students. < 1377382445 612624 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, that's because the Lancaster students are all kept hush-hush < 1377383038 866944 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :dan200 < 1377383232 116864 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb's Esoteric Challenge for Autumn 2013: Write an IRC bot in Inform 7 < 1377383445 123004 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Would it interact simply by a Z-code or Glulx program I/O being connected to the IRC, or would a variant be made which compiles into native code? < 1377383483 47481 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, that is open to your interpretation < 1377383592 182444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott has convinced me to test out a new irssi script < 1377383610 862229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should be able to guess what it does < 1377383680 722717 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1377383784 904713 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1377383901 326078 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess: appends hth to every privmsg < 1377383929 171568 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I should totally make seasonal Taneb's Esoteric Challenge < 1377383975 948396 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it once. if anyone completes it, then do a second. < 1377384285 531737 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377384780 350685 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not write an irc client in inform 7 < 1377384855 902134 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nithg < 1377385128 649333 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :drivers i need installed via downloaded shell script. feeling pretty safe atm. < 1377385238 717630 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm I have both adduser and useradd and they are completely different < 1377385244 368428 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that isn't confusing at all... < 1377385291 720632 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377385413 566046 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1377385437 920728 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think useradd is the easier one? < 1377385551 377754 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“NOTE: BEFORE I STARTED WORK ON THIS PROJECT I HAD TO GET PRE-APPROVAL FROM THE SCIENCE FAIR ETHICS COMMITTEE.” http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/11629464/ < 1377386302 750391 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compare the various things I have written/designed with your interest and writing and games and so on by other people, see if you can find any similarity, difference, comment of it, thing you like/dislike, etc. My brother has said my games tend to have unpredictable things; see if it looks same to you or if you find some predictability. < 1377386780 857695 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, appears so < 1377386956 895255 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One is kinda-sorta a frontend for the other. < 1377386975 10766 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how long are you around today < 1377387050 135711 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to write a IRC client in Inform 7, you would need to modify Inform 6 to add the features you need, since Inform 7 compiles into Inform 6 < 1377387339 515021 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very clever: Windows spins up all disks (even those set "offline") in order to go to sleep. < 1377387353 98209 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you gotta sleep stringly enough < 1377387491 923454 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I decided to put Linux (well, /home) on disks A and B, and Windows on C, I was sort of hoping I could have A/B more or less permanently stopped when in Windows, and correspondingly C when in Linux, but there seem to be very many occasions for waking them up. < 1377387521 565777 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :strongly < 1377388344 964894 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist 40 < 1377388346 506077 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist 40: shachaf nooodl < 1377388382 730223 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377388440 28390 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1377388553 349597 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is danddrec < 1377388564 245522 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? danddrec < 1377388565 624292 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddrec? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377388566 69452 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               | < 1377388566 265858 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             º¯`\o < 1377388569 58563 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? danddreclist < 1377388570 661910 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex (the precompiled .dvi is also available) < 1377388574 945411 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1377388578 527855 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's zzo's d&d games. < 1377388656 617418 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :figured as much < 1377388774 273174 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1377388796 310413 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The precompiled file is at printing level 5; if you download it and run it, it will ask you what level of detail you want in the printout. You also need the file "dungeonsrecording.tex" which is in the same directory, if you want to print it yourself, or if you want to use these macros for your own use, too. < 1377388815 33047 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Did that interests you yet? < 1377389491 718714 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1377389559 145827 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1377389605 670275 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1377389722 463159 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1377389861 668306 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1377393010 688006 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1377396408 587235 :nooodl!~nooodl@178-119-143-49.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1377396941 378545 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1377397557 525331 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377398186 332757 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Objectionitive Wizardry {1W} Creature - Elemental Wizard 1/1 Protection from enchanted objects | {3W}, {T}: Put a Aura enchantment token with "Enchant creature | Enchanted creature gets +1/+1." on target creature. < 1377398363 403720 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The closing of an online virtual game may sound trivial to anyone who has never used or visited one, but to the people who spent a chunk of their formative years forging relationships inside their virtual walls, the loss can be huge." < 1377398367 160647 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone who understands! < 1377398740 707749 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Mtg Person I Know says the only tokens are creatures. < 1377399102 561403 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Of all known cards yes, but some versions of the rules say any permanent. Still, there are many rules I would change, one is that a token can be any object. < 1377399221 858923 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would do it like this: The state based effect causing tokens outside of play zone ceasing to exist would be removed, and instead, they cease to exist due to lacking an initial state. Also, copies of spells are tokens. < 1377399237 947217 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This seem more logical to me. < 1377399272 13542 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think of it? < 1377399305 698405 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically nothing since i don't play mtg < 1377399358 317049 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would also remove the state based effects about auras/equipments that are also creatures, and about losing due to run out of cards to draw; instead, the meaning of "draw a card" becomes: If there is a card in your draw pile, put the top one into your hand, otherwise you lose the game. < 1377399389 253675 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that different from running out of cars to draw making you lose < 1377399465 494952 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It would rarely make a difference. However, there are a few rare circumstances where it might differ, for example if you have an effect that causes damage and you draw a card together, then if you have no cards to draw then you lose, since the losing due to life total happens later because it is a state based effect. < 1377399542 876893 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: losing due to card draw is also a state based action < 1377399557 952760 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Yes I know. However, this is a rule I would change so that it isn't. < 1377399565 511664 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: There are many rules I would change. < 1377400509 12462 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1377400965 165213 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377403392 226060 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377403397 193232 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377403413 652120 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1377408953 681639 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I watching Mulan right now? < 1377408996 694287 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. Why am I still awake < 1377409040 427816 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :who fucking knows sgeo. who fucking knows anything. i don't fucking know the series of events that led to you watching mulan. it could be anything. it is everything. the entirety of existence has led to this point, this point of you asking why you are watching mulan. are you even watching mulan? i don't know i can't know. all i have is your word, your words on a screen. a tiny portion of the fucking gigantic lightcone i live in. iti goes so ... < 1377409046 437814 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :... damn far. so damn far sgeo. i can't even see a lightyear out my window and you expect me to know why you're watching mulan? what the fuck sgeo? waht the fuck < 1377409321 860328 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377409473 934224 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :Bike > 1377409474 302191 NAMES :#esoteric < 1377409523 945213 :dan200!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377409529 116734 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1377409937 925489 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has led to this point < 1377410594 245560 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of point? < 1377410625 607657 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one < 1377410663 571868 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you please be more specific? < 1377410693 285281 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm referring to literally one point particularly. i cannot be more specific. it is impossible. how can i be more specific than "this thing right here" < 1377410753 837190 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is true, you cannot be more specific than that, but "this thing right here" isn't meaningful unless you know which one you mean. < 1377410768 315297 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one. This point. Right here. The point we are at. < 1377410824 374807 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That isn't a single point, though. < 1377410837 453407 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it is. < 1377410877 31660 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe to you it is, but not necessarily to me. < 1377410885 353268 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're at the same point, tha'ts impossible < 1377410935 357297 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you know relativity and uncertainty principle and so on too? For one thing we are not at the same point, is one such thing. < 1377410958 85731 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that kind of point. < 1377410979 452647 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other kind. < 1377410979 597843 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one. < 1377410979 597925 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, Euclidean space is a myth. < 1377410991 330316 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no connection here. < 1377410991 475695 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you afraid? < 1377411014 431085 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A myth? I think Euclidean space still seems mathematically OK, although it isn't the only kind of geometry. < 1377411019 213499 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not afraid of it, though. < 1377411083 219292 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are *you* agraid of it? < 1377411136 421002 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1377411144 521886 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i didn't say of what < 1377411161 320908 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :of it! < 1377411189 412855 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1377412430 30474 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377412458 586507 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1377412495 621214 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett QUIT :Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere. < 1377412687 732130 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377413001 567455 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377413030 158475 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1377413081 763144 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377413118 818947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm back in SF < 1377413122 9377 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had lunch at Ryowa, though! < 1377413544 905230 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377414210 231572 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MilR3Z1sASY < 1377414218 949261 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was not expecting electronic-sounding music in that movie < 1377415104 115820 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1377415907 329580 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377417243 777983 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377418566 609382 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377418975 774539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION calls the nice people in the white coats for Bike  < 1377419396 266094 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377419808 296148 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377421323 437300 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377421333 894310 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377424093 324508 :monotone_!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1377424116 974754 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1377424117 670133 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377424117 822138 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377424134 900994 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377424136 646755 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377424150 978052 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377424175 397880 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: No buffer space available < 1377424179 555466 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204] < 1377424192 212720 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1377425078 991843 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377425526 642467 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377427019 426907 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377427282 651045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1377427495 932191 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1377427770 714842 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377428121 206963 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377428294 882542 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: p. thorough answer there < 1377428309 708446 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377428366 839471 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377428376 211362 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377428421 65376 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377428499 67759 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1377429344 312060 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1377429455 871222 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377429479 776505 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be NICK :AnotherTe < 1377429859 874980 :AnotherTe!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377430329 688809 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ping? < 1377430354 368441 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, wrt. rdiff-backup, how do you deal with VM image files? < 1377430398 79553 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377431241 129872 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a feeling that if not for oracle, we can replace all this crap with zfs snapshots < 1377431356 927153 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377431698 855666 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :zfs is available outside of oracle < 1377431846 665587 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can even use it on linux (!) < 1377431894 45722 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might even be faster than ntfs-3g! < 1377432260 950685 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ... fast enough? istr that the benchmarks are unimpressive though < 1377432982 783232 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, the LLNL, of all people, have sponsored a zfs kernel module < 1377433032 719598 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC the LLNL work was the beginning of http://zfsonlinux.org/ < 1377433411 685327 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377433962 103744 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377434192 337342 :nooodl!~nooodl@178-119-143-49.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377435066 208918 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377435159 251399 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1377435329 290501 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1377436290 949073 :jix!~jix@37.72.148.20 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377436315 191683 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1377436535 148826 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377437194 602485 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, I'm currently using LVM snapshots to get consistent file system backups < 1377437203 757845 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377437365 852750 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1377437366 35957 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377437366 444367 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1377437437 664746 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1377437476 709119 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1377437601 539414 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377439056 924961 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377439357 909473 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377439413 681512 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1377440359 896981 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377440443 851273 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377440729 895508 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377441587 921829 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on < 1377441590 474840 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :/dev/mapper/array-old_disk2 119726308 117484008 0 100% /mnt/tmp < 1377441598 232154 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a really strange count of free blocks < 1377441682 910260 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's normal < 1377441696 164618 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :asie, oh? < 1377441754 898078 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :asie, oh wait, is it related to the 1% reserved for root thingy? < 1377441761 535671 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1377441761 680404 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I ran df as root so that makes no sense < 1377441764 684228 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's related to metadata i think < 1377441768 239053 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1377441771 752644 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the used-but-not-used space is used for metadata < 1377441773 670045 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and journaling < 1377441788 27899 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I can create a new 1 MB file on there at least with no issues < 1377441790 892141 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :so It seems usable < 1377441795 158096 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes it is < 1377441796 688669 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes it isn't < 1377441798 806037 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1377441922 606287 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377442398 497479 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377442488 146922 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377443832 574847 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1377443857 137647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1377444957 208127 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377444966 874905 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377445033 410884 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1377445517 165908 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377445867 749229 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377447494 146211 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377447683 928276 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377448280 686651 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377448325 125436 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1377449179 120258 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol, I tried to use the gnome disk utility to run a performance test on my mdraid 1 array. I think there is some weird caching going on. The graph looks utterly silly: Around ~150-200 MB/s, except a peak at the end going upwards of 5 GB/s < 1377449845 401288 :asie_!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377450012 885515 :asie_!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl NICK :asie < 1377450988 914094 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377452214 16062 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://np.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/1l19ym/greek_nazi_propaganda_in_nyc/cbur6id I hate Reddit sometimes (highly upvoted mysogeny) < 1377452673 221510 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377453138 234573 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377453311 344932 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377453528 943369 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377453604 546752 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Client Quit < 1377453770 16194 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377455006 416189 :dfgdfh!~1@178.154.26.182 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377455097 599200 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377455113 689830 :dfgdfh!~1@178.154.26.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kiss my ass < 1377455154 546159 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome dfgdfh < 1377455159 712951 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :dfgdfh: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1377455165 428272 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww c'mon, you can troll better than that and we both know it. I believe in you dfgdfh! < 1377455208 579908 :dfgdfh!~1@178.154.26.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric : kiss my ass kiss my ass < 1377455210 272193 :dfgdfh!~1@178.154.26.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric : kiss my ass kiss my ass < 1377455211 858969 :dfgdfh!~1@178.154.26.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric : kiss my ass kiss my ass < 1377455217 3565 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn steppin it up < 1377455235 407702 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo kiss my ass < 1377455236 745005 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :kiss my ass < 1377455239 838547 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1377455362 780 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whois dfgdfh < 1377455365 583653 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops. < 1377455401 265947 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is thisthat one person i vaguely reemmber < 1377455490 10394 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember anybody from belarus < 1377455623 388459 :dfgdfh!~1@178.154.26.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :went to have a drink < 1377455702 750829 :dfgdfh!~1@178.154.26.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are you from? < 1377455705 92772 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i mean wasn't there a person who had a bunch of df nicks < 1377455753 864298 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net NICK :UristMcSgeo < 1377455756 882499 :UristMcSgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A DF nick < 1377455777 411471 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: they were australian or something < 1377455778 382702 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dumb < 1377455788 282656 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what if they're behind seven proxies.......... < 1377455791 344571 :dfgdfh!~1@178.154.26.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do not know me < 1377455800 851207 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am from: the mountains < 1377455802 388610 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice place < 1377455844 801734 :dfgdfh!~1@178.154.26.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i from minsk < 1377455881 107279 :dfgdfh!~1@178.154.26.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my name evgeni < 1377455883 74007 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's hardly belarus at all. < 1377455908 215620 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377455928 485951 :dfgdfh!~1@178.154.26.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not quite understand what you are saying < 1377455949 300842 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither < 1377455978 66950 :dfgdfh!~1@178.154.26.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not know much english < 1377456013 780593 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you say "kiss my ass" < 1377456044 338354 :dfgdfh!~1@178.154.26.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like that ) < 1377456107 754458 :dfgdfh!~1@178.154.26.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you speak Russian ? < 1377456115 327406 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1377456121 601185 :dfgdfh!~1@178.154.26.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( < 1377456168 910260 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dfgdfh, i hear they have lots of radiation over there < 1377456170 583597 :dfgdfh!~1@178.154.26.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is bad ( < 1377456206 514437 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you keep saying ( < 1377456221 602799 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a man with no eyes frowning < 1377456232 88748 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :))) < 1377456237 146349 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry I had to do it < 1377456245 956621 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you really didn't < 1377456252 331227 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the bots should have a counter to tell how many nested parentheses the channel is in < 1377456267 242465 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe fizzie could graph it over time < 1377456270 965785 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact I find it highly surprising that none does < 1377456289 910923 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :running a cfg over the entirety of the logs sounds like a pain < 1377456380 506826 :dfgdfh!~1@178.154.26.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :35 IRC Operators online < 1377456382 205141 :dfgdfh!~1@178.154.26.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of < 1377456462 108224 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did someone remove the url for jsvine's survey from the topic? < 1377456516 867449 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1377456703 109834 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377456718 927747 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377456744 288968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would you do with parenthesis-based smileys < 1377456757 775233 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe just count them < 1377456784 261242 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to alternate sad/happy and left/right smileys appropriately < 1377457325 443660 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1377457435 686645 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377458073 73682 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377458756 874038 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377458790 147262 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1377458795 81739 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION heading up to SF to do random biking < 1377458804 951842 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and random bike parking, though hopefully not random bike stealing < 1377458905 713480 :stuntaneous!~stuntane@101.119.14.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377459034 788956 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PRIVMSG #esoteric :New RegexPL release, try it before your girlfriend! http://zuu.dk/index.php?page=regexpl < 1377459047 167155 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to be nostalgic, I might try the commute I did back in the summer of 2011 < 1377459094 834169 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then take embarcadero to fisherman's wharf, wait in line 30 minutes for In-n-Out, and cross Golden Gate bridge < 1377459107 729711 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :enough to fill my SF quota for at least a few months. < 1377459424 373505 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm, yeah, so if anyone from the general area wants to hang out later on, lemme know < 1377459587 149725 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put into the computer the two spells I made up for Dungeons&Dragons game which I have selected for my character, these ones are "Kjugobe's Timer" and "Kjugobe's Notification". An idea is next add a "Kjugobe's Trigger", which probably is much higher level spell. < 1377459793 200988 :dfgdfh!~1@178.154.26.182 PART :#esoteric < 1377459799 63205 :stuntaneous!~stuntane@101.119.14.49 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377459920 23616 :stuntaneous!~stuntane@101.119.14.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377460115 487868 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377460123 895282 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377460142 575768 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377460446 587347 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1377460546 168862 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377461221 673076 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1377461338 987186 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377461368 561 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1377461465 42489 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377462104 66143 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377462185 568443 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377462267 672548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm. the smell of quines in the morning. except it's actually evening, but you know. < 1377462531 644982 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377462934 720264 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1377463154 764456 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377463388 789275 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1377464010 335193 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got a job ad here asking for someone good at "object-oriented languages (Java, PERL, Python, R etc.)". reasonable description yes/no < 1377464024 14683 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does R even have objects? < 1377464032 813574 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean if you have to use the Unicode snowman to make an IRC bot with it... < 1377464046 342619 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know :( < 1377464069 676202 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1377464335 135618 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377465491 323081 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1377466542 712631 :stuntaneous!~stuntane@101.119.14.49 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377466958 630057 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377467111 831148 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1377467341 613051 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1377468169 804943 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377468552 701992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1377468883 105789 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377471018 49334 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there some way to configure the chrome omnibox? tab to search is fucked for wikipedia for me and it's irritating < 1377471137 923724 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I've had similar issues < 1377471153 48131 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :modifying your history doesn't seem to help < 1377471327 185671 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is soma now < 1377471330 104346 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is in < 1377471611 256182 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was an incredibly loud noise just now < 1377471693 505074 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, this guy, he knows what he's talking about. https://twitter.com/dirkdk/status/371769018983522304 < 1377471738 604310 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems annoying < 1377471829 629203 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, someone on google help forums says, "An easy fix for this is to change the keyword for your google search to something other than google < 1377471847 494143 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :". I didn't know it was so EZ < 1377472317 393492 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Excess Flood < 1377472553 411055 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1377473076 14170 :UristMcSgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"THIS is why crime must never be allowed to decline in New York City — LESS crime in the city means MORE crime in the quiet and pristine suburbs. Why hasn't Bloomberg been arrested for this?" < 1377473278 331207 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :too busy arresting him for everything else, one hopes < 1377473436 781685 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377473467 390537 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu PART :#esoteric < 1377473532 696792 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377475470 989669 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1377476537 729195 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377476751 112821 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377476767 717879 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377477511 153821 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Excess Flood < 1377477538 915570 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1377477571 278918 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377477817 173500 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377477835 851188 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377478806 195724 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377479654 765179 :nooodl!~nooodl@178-119-143-49.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377479909 669172 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1377480017 397772 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1377481297 56715 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1377482019 527876 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: last i saw you had a lot of screens and most of them had windows in them < 1377482272 402921 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bosker.wordpress.com/2013/08/18/i-hate-the-pumping-lemma/ < 1377482352 319069 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, reduces it to pigeonhole principle, but dijkstra said something similar about the pigeonhole principle itself < 1377482414 727313 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oops" < 1377482420 509161 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo reduce everything to hugz < 1377482422 482369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi mnoqy < 1377482429 322963 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1377482523 248370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: adjunctions are p. cool, what's even cooler than adjunctions tho < 1377482646 545943 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a question or an answer < 1377482665 162618 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :question < 1377482728 539376 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know < 1377482749 147333 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it kan extensions < 1377482772 527523 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haent bothered learning much about those yet < 1377482779 245472 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they cool < 1377482793 666476 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard that they are < 1377482803 2051 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i dont actually know what "cool" means < 1377482812 325129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so idn'tk < 1377482850 671268 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did dijkstra say < 1377482865 899712 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the maximum is at least the average" < 1377482885 455377 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/transcriptions/EWD10xx/EWD1094.html < 1377482902 147057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/ewd10xx/EWD1094.PDF if you like dijkstra's handwriting (you should) < 1377482976 916348 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"PS. I don’t have anything against the pumping lemma for context-free languages." < 1377482986 879000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one is much more complicated though :( < 1377483018 830261 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the ratio of complexity of idea to complexity of formal statement is worse there < 1377483946 690061 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377484098 950421 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377485698 901661 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1377485866 232170 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1377486338 730073 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje < 1377487009 312355 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1377487078 914359 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what does he mean by an underline N? < 1377487176 958643 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it looks like he means "Int") < 1377487349 561648 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377487426 485948 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In what context is that? < 1377487502 185882 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Client Quit < 1377487514 738664 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the german soccer lotto, he introduces a variable 'i' to index some arrays < 1377487516 162128 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377487721 363223 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's along with underlined A for "for all" and underlined E for "there exists" < 1377487724 647074 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess it's a quantifier < 1377487763 887610 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least a binder. < 1377487768 872981 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm not sure what. < 1377487778 49670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like (N x : φ(x)) is meant to mean "the number of x such that φ(x) holds" < 1377487816 680582 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that's an unusual binder/quantifier. < 1377487862 847419 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also that (Q x : φ : ψ) is meant to be sugar for (Q x: (φ ∧ ψ)) < 1377487878 678250 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry to use almost identical looking greek letters but it's Tradition < 1377487882 259023 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: did djikstra reduce the pigeonhole principle to the pumping lemma < 1377487924 944164 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think the two colons are special, since even the forall has two. < 1377487930 982723 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1377487937 718279 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ψ < 1377487938 492346 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love "reduce" since even the formal definitions are pretty... two-way < 1377489226 860177 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377489350 322290 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377489912 502102 :doesthiswork!~Adium@97-126-83-199.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1377490213 281852 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377490392 791083 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the HTML <xmp> command should be added in MediaWiki (although it doesn't have to implement it as emitting a <xmp>) < 1377490542 381460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :while you were tripping you were transported to a universe where \phi and \varphi are interchanged < 1377490559 899290 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it's not \epsilon and \varepsilon < 1377490632 978438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently there's such a thing as "Latin uppercase epsilon" (Ɛ) which is not to be confused with Greek uppercase epsilon (Ε) < 1377490636 798628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf people < 1377490668 599603 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop inventing bogus letters < 1377490674 897888 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least go all out and make something that looks like klingon < 1377490693 505563 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ge'ez < 1377490699 295336 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ge'ez people < 1377490971 125389 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377492412 853822 :UristMcSgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xmp is the sort of thing that sounds good until you realize someone will dumbly try to use it for security < 1377492455 914888 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :UristMcSgeo: But that doesn't make it no good; it only makes it no good to use it for security. < 1377493319 472225 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377493378 143241 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377493383 617720 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377493420 674844 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1377494002 179721 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1377494234 657123 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377495216 214115 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377495228 328147 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377495340 996698 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1377495926 637535 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377496016 902792 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1377496279 839388 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377496319 559561 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377496622 628607 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377497184 652593 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377497223 572961 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1377498542 78851 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377499691 979733 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has 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ZZZzzz... < 1377505590 252441 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377506031 529601 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377506179 42063 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1377507291 372063 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377507351 381883 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Client Quit < 1377509507 41410 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377510317 787543 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377511262 205670 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377512124 115881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1377512525 97227 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje < 1377513988 327692 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377514153 958521 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377514583 357755 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: asie < 1377514689 904769 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1377514742 461012 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377516412 978616 :UristMcSgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377519016 707963 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377519079 595482 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :glogbackup: WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE < 1377519427 449768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :<glogbackup> sorry people, I... I just took a wrong turn and... got lost and... wandered in... < 1377519437 670487 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :<glogbackup> I'll... show myself out... < 1377519450 142949 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION idly considers kicking it for yuks < 1377519455 972692 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kick glogbot to validate the backup's presence < 1377519465 661013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now you've made me feel sad for it :( < 1377519476 838180 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hugs glogbackup < 1377519486 407231 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I might do that *if* Gregor had ever merged glogbackup's logs in, ever < 1377519502 85197 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1377519763 694262 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :glogbackup > 1377519763 732578 NAMES :#esoteric < 1377519771 188765 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem solved < 1377519824 211116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't argue with that. < 1377520332 391231 :ping!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377520345 696110 :ping!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377520884 295949 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat greeting >> #esoteric < 1377520970 830843 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume that would be a meow. < 1377521639 918763 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377522452 765249 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably, yeah < 1377522862 215144 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377522874 890731 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377522891 181474 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon matin. < 1377523044 852126 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bon mating, böily ^^ < 1377523080 772505 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice placement of the infamous trë́ma. < 1377523228 538270 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, a ladybug on my desk. < 1377523432 294517 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1377523439 396348 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377523520 907430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a ladybug, it's a fallen-off accent < 1377523642 896344 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377523650 194976 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1377523684 963624 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377523777 757807 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377523793 156340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<oerjan> it's not a ladybug, it's a fallen-off accent < 1377523800 264691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1377523805 462800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1377523820 978717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i found a flaw in your script < 1377523919 128144 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you brightenèd my morning. < 1377523923 484920 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: wtf < 1377523936 569589 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you... accents do not work that way < 1377523940 390216 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: perfectly legit use of the è. < 1377523948 929301 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEH < 1377523949 525184 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's used in poetry for scansion. < 1377523960 676873 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't say "perfectly legit" =P < 1377523966 530475 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grévisse would object, really < 1377523972 180413 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA HA HA! < 1377524023 542092 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care about grévisse. had you mentioned a real grammar source, like bécherelle. < 1377524023 687066 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hm < 1377524034 600875 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: erm can you give me a copy of the script so I can fix it :P < 1377524124 251652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/EAPE < 1377524194 382477 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, do you ever do mid-line hths? those could be problematic as well < 1377524223 392418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i can recall, unless i'm actually talking about the concept < 1377524232 754937 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I didn't want to restrict admitting you have a problem < 1377524235 61743 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: looks like my bro is in Michigan this morning. < 1377524245 595229 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyhow how about < 1377524245 857166 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : if ($text =~ s/(^|[,;.?!]?\s+)(hth|twn?h|tdn?h)[,;.?!]*\s*$//ig) { < 1377524267 461603 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we all support you in this difficult time. < 1377524276 106120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1377524283 603828 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Now that's just nice =P < 1377524323 875225 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: oh, no. it was just an atrocious pun based on my previous e-mail. < 1377524343 514120 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Now that's just nice =P < 1377524409 828587 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a sudden urge to smack Roujo, but we're Monday morning and I have a chocolate muffin from Costco. < 1377524419 193204 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Now that's just nice =P < 1377524421 618269 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALRIGHT < 1377524422 973497 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll stop < 1377524474 884316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw editing it revealed that your script was full of ^M's < 1377524560 864844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok now i've reloaded < 1377524580 162279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1377524595 720528 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I tried picking up vim < 1377524601 90814 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :using vimtutor < 1377524624 25115 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sprunge's fault, probably < 1377524627 951926 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather HTTP's fault or whatever < 1377524663 487316 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: once you start thinking of vim as a roguelike, everything else flows together. < 1377524665 609573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1377524684 516884 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh okay < 1377524705 55407 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause right now I'm convinced I've gone far enough in the tutorial to keep using emacs < 1377524740 86784 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this whole "vim is a text editor but please don't use the text editing mode too much" philosophy is weird < 1377524771 215062 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoa, I just realised I can't threaten you with wiki adminship any more < 1377524782 404060 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: horrible isn't it < 1377524790 197547 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: that's completely false. it's a text editor first, but it happens you have a separate mode for movemements and stuff. < 1377524792 458051 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should demote you < 1377524798 556183 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep my options open < 1377524814 591585 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, kmc gave his voice to glogbackup? < 1377524842 28701 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: apparently when I'm in insert mode I can only delete what I've just written; all that was already there I CAN'T TOUCH < 1377524856 922251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: oh there's an option for that < 1377524868 893208 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: there's an option for that. < 1377524873 871838 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is that option called "any other text editor"? < 1377524893 680078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1377524902 235728 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: I'll act on a sudden spur of charity, and say that you have to add «set nocompatible» in your ~/.vimrc. < 1377524920 278393 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a .vimrc yet < 1377524922 217945 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377524963 806474 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: the .vimrc is only second behind fvwm config files when you sort them by the amount of time you loose tweaking them. < 1377524972 195237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of the obvious small improvements are set by default in the windows install, but i vaguely recall setting such an option way back on linux. < 1377524975 218496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1377524977 168532 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tip: when someone wants to complain, advice helps neither of you. < 1377524980 29910 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(althought you can't rush a good .screenrc, imho) < 1377524996 318796 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, at the school most people use vim, and they were not far from convincing me it was better than emacs < 1377524998 829757 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the default windows install is a little bit weird. < 1377525009 475960 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this whole "insert mode" thing is really really ridiculous < 1377525020 749290 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :half the time they type looking at the keyboard < 1377525029 260675 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nothing happens because they forgot to type i first or something < 1377525030 824603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i _have_ changed a few options in that too, but not this one. anyhow my nvg .vimrc contains set backspace=indent,eol,start whichwrap+=<,>,[,] < 1377525039 20922 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so, save your time, because the complaints will continue regardless. < 1377525051 543792 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm actually open-minded! < 1377525066 724095 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you've already decided it's really really ridiculous. < 1377525072 930302 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it? < 1377525073 744483 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what the whichwrap part does < 1377525077 860381 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: when complaining, don't meta-complain, ere your enter an infinite loop of Ultimate Mutual Kvetching. < 1377525085 300921 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why < 1377525091 516096 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait those are separate options < 1377525101 291625 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no idea here neither. it's there, it's feng shui, it must be kept. < 1377525102 530836 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I certainly don't look at my keyboard when using vim, though I have no strong attachment to it as an editor < 1377525116 422541 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well it's a text editor but by default you are not in text editing mode < 1377525164 345451 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377525206 477831 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what is your opinion on insertion? < 1377525216 988628 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :context-dependent < 1377525223 423833 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: it's called insert mode. < 1377525231 262131 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1377525238 152798 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not even a text editing more < 1377525243 658307 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mode* < 1377525252 103196 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :insertion is not even editing. normal mode has more tools to actually edit existing text < 1377525253 749949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oh it's to fix a similar annoyingness of the <>[] commands i guess < 1377525269 366712 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in normal mode you can't really type text < 1377525277 867657 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what I wanna do when I'm using a text editor < 1377525292 857838 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, are you arguing about vim < 1377525304 78273 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: neat. didn't know about wrapping <>. I guess I prefer the “get stuck at the line beginning” variant, as I usually < and > very aggressively. < 1377525307 895133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: um wait it's not the commands but the arrow keys < 1377525317 629570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're just encoded that way in the option < 1377525318 345089 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: egbeh? < 1377525344 102295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: by default left and right arrow don't wrap at eol < 1377525351 241180 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like all those fancy instructions to delete one word or one line or 13 characters but it seems wrong that you're not allowed to do what you usually do in a text editor < 1377525359 721140 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: as in, the physical keys? < 1377525371 469707 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yes < 1377525447 477329 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankfully, other editors (insertors?) exist < 1377525460 201284 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? insertor < 1377525463 113343 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: and frankly I think if I spent enough time coming up with a satisfying .vimrc I'd probably be more efficient using vim than emacs but still some things in it seem so ridiculous to me < 1377525465 263087 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :insertor? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377525465 628832 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               | < 1377525465 819680 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             o/`¯º < 1377525548 510061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: there is a vim mode to keep you mostly in insert mode. then you have to add a prefix for each normal mode command though iirc < 1377525557 254370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*vim setting < 1377525591 871629 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: when in insert mode, you can Alt-* to get the normal mode command. < 1377525620 131025 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fsvo of *) < 1377525634 936453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely thought it was Ctrl-O < 1377525685 128578 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, Ctrl-O is cleaner, but it just happens that in a terminal to Alt- something is the same as Escape, then the something. < 1377525764 275887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. that may not even be the case in windows. < 1377525784 740331 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: you're using which OS? < 1377525798 12569 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mac os x < 1377525804 926326 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :snow leopard I reckon < 1377525823 995303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the thing is Ctrl-O automatically returns you to insert mode after the command < 1377525914 976248 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: hm. I never vimmed on a mac. how does it feel? < 1377525931 385031 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :awkward < 1377525933 617391 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ridiculous < 1377525938 664486 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may not be very objective < 1377525950 405813 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ctrl-O is the official “temporarily jump back to normality”. Alt- is the ugly aquatic bird. < 1377525970 68567 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: you can not be objective about a text editor. it goes with the territory. < 1377525997 72020 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: but if Alt-* is equivalent to Esc * then it _wouldn't_ be temporary. < 1377526110 308414 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the lesson to be extracted from that is that aquatic birds aren't temporary, but the objectivity of Ctrl-O is absolute. < 1377526125 774970 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1377526368 536679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later hth < 1377526399 667903 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I support and do so < 1377526435 660373 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan I frown upon this loophole < 1377526435 805323 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377526448 266750 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i join in frowning < 1377526458 768569 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what you frowning at? < 1377526511 728051 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan why are you being frowned at? < 1377526511 872784 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377526558 624154 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hth" in the /quit < 1377526721 577110 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :dan200 < 1377526804 808541 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did we already relcome ggherdov? < 1377526819 478923 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1377527131 975428 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377527520 593800 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1377529550 901302 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377530288 599945 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist (914) < 1377530290 268670 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist (914): shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1377530442 821378 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooh < 1377530456 23993 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist (100) < 1377530457 215781 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist (100): shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1377530465 66385 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1377530470 467296 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what this is < 1377530471 743786 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow roujo why are you ruining the sanctity of the list system. < 1377530475 296794 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? olist < 1377530477 218503 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Update notification for the webcomic Order of the Stick. < 1377530480 426010 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahh < 1377530481 235932 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1377530484 96287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't do that. < 1377530523 403698 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I didn't think it'd break something < 1377530537 99300 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only think you've broken is our hearts. < 1377530556 385403 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hey i was typing that :'( < 1377530556 719256 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so far) < 1377531196 185216 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is haskell's i/o organized? like, i assume you can have parsec or whatever deal about the same with a file or with just a string? < 1377531207 645979 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377531228 97847 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you just pass a lazy string or is there something else, is what i'm asking, i guess < 1377531277 993089 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is less nice than you are expecting < 1377531296 372637 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not really expecting anything. i/o fucking sucks < 1377531310 124757 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you made an assumption < 1377531315 302426 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sort of true but not in any nice way you might be hoping < 1377531325 714180 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is my assumption that parsec works on both wrong? < 1377531333 377456 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :works on both without some horrible nastiness, anyway < 1377531362 899394 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wondering if there's something like CL (oh no) streams or scheme ports or whatever < 1377531393 461816 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's about five competing alternatives to fill that need < 1377531403 329943 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :parsec supports none of them but it's flexible enough to feed incrementally from a file with a bit of work, I think. < 1377531403 512325 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol cool. < 1377531424 258177 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there seven packages putting the five alternatives into unifying monads < 1377531545 691240 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and as long as i'm mentioning parsec, how does the whole language derivative thing work? what multiplication and addition operations do you use to show leibniz's identity? bla bla < 1377531546 955503 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unifying monads... < 1377531560 853895 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey elliott fuck u < 1377531610 993544 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking of the time i asked about error handling and kmc or somebody pointed out a couple different things that tried to genericize error handling < 1377531624 315525 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :believe there's a "clevr quote" on this subject < 1377531707 325830 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :MonadError, that was it < 1377532063 974653 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote Bike < 1377532064 120165 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :jjuggle says: I was riding around town and this cop on patrol on a bike rode up next to me and said, "There's always a show off." I offered to teach him to ride and help set up a unicycle patrol < 1377532064 264960 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :squad, but he declined. < 1377532100 457105 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? jjugle < 1377532101 991442 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :jjugle? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377532102 363317 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1377532102 587367 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           o/`¯º < 1377532105 347479 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? jjuggle < 1377532106 696458 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :jjuggle? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377532107 49553 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              | < 1377532107 250574 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            º¯`\o < 1377532502 362359 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oikltsonwgznartv PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes boily I was warmly wellcame a few weeks ago. Thank you! < 1377533598 645423 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, but were you relcame? < 1377535209 421304 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377535225 287965 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377535738 251293 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377536213 504271 :nooodl!~nooodl@178-119-143-49.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377536908 273326 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1377537604 342744 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEANWHILE IN /R/ANARCHO_CAPITALISM: http://www.reddit.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/comments/1kwy3p/how_would_anarchocapitalism_work_for_a_lowclass/cbtj774 < 1377537610 210984 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377537610 464892 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how do you feel about insertion? < 1377537618 26750 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i know it's not /r/bitcoin but let's face it they're basically the same) < 1377537657 953621 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough working neurons today to parse that comment. < 1377537677 919899 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377537687 106051 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha there's an r/anarcho_capitalism < 1377537704 717636 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Insert what? < 1377537715 256304 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with fancy header and all! < 1377537725 216829 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the parent comment to that one is also gold < 1377537737 930176 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i saw this one before < 1377537750 39322 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Koen_'s misadventures with vim on OS X. < 1377537769 363910 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem's not os x < 1377537786 581522 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«I don't mean to offend anyone or be "that person" to say anarcho-capitalism is only for rich, white people,» < 1377537799 334089 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fuck, is this unironic bootstrap < 1377537807 936587 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :holly fuck. fucking carnegie. holy fuck < 1377537821 353929 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're completely serious. holy shit. holy what the fuck phantom < 1377537832 583628 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a cool justification < 1377537845 644535 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "I'm usually not violent but here's my fist in your face" < 1377537850 503790 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know man < 1377537852 432617 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1377537857 415256 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the banner is also good < 1377537865 459889 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect depiction of how anarcho capitalists imagine themselves < 1377537867 89102 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking bowtie < 1377537872 627808 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'"Government regulation makes sure the proles are fed."Actually, it ensures their slavery to statism.' < 1377537899 529686 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going through this thread and i cannot < 1377537924 262636 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have however developed a loathing for the term 'govt' < 1377537968 977744 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :may i suggest not going through this thread < 1377537989 668882 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1377537996 777862 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, for your own safety, you understand < 1377538016 925509 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i am the statist oppressor) < 1377538031 304748 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm totally the statist oppressor < 1377538037 852437 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's me fucker < 1377538038 352417 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will instead try and sift out garth marenghi's opinions on government < 1377538047 696340 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this may take a while < 1377538050 657123 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am the statiest!! < 1377538066 461123 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let Phantom_Hoover read the thread, I say. the end result will be entertaining :D < 1377538080 158894 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds anarcho-capitalist. i must now oppress you. < 1377538085 957613 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i command that you devoice boily. < 1377538104 255986 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he already has no voice < 1377538112 979194 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as does Gregor, which is unacceptable < 1377538118 489529 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you opposing the rule of law phantom < 1377538124 790928 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the statist oppressors aren't doing their jobs i say < 1377538142 491452 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel underoppressed < 1377538163 888506 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow that subreddit's logo < 1377538171 783937 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they even trying < 1377538178 473078 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make me laugh? maybe < 1377538190 296409 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :elliott > 1377538190 315346 NAMES :#esoteric < 1377538197 527932 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric Phantom_Hoover :"HTH", as they say < 1377538197 771866 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1377538199 207529 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -o :elliott > 1377538199 219790 NAMES :#esoteric < 1377538202 604345 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah. < 1377538210 291679 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell yes < 1377538214 427750 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :smash the nonstate < 1377538218 436274 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody ever tell me I don't oppress them enough. < 1377538221 571942 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377538222 59405 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hides himself behind Roujo. "I didn't do nothing!" < 1377538225 824656 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :voice gregor you shit < 1377538230 666543 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1377538232 718863 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not today < 1377538235 898810 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the karmic balance isn't right!! < 1377538241 461336 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1377538241 708636 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Brightness Hiding" to "Humbling" < 1377538258 716293 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there. whatever that means. < 1377538260 922422 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmhm, that backs up the karmic balance description < 1377538267 451365 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good job elliott. now devoice boily < 1377538267 608267 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1377538267 988603 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Pervading" to "Corrupting" < 1377538271 889315 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, cool < 1377538274 151030 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION spreads < 1377538339 589288 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does map-o-spread still exist? it's been a while since I had it on my breakfast toasts... < 1377538358 885967 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1377538359 149259 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Arguing" to "Treading" < 1377538366 813107 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds meaningful < 1377538368 850219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1377538369 147653 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Converting the Maiden" to "Open" < 1377538379 378248 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's not even trying < 1377538380 129092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :converting vegetarians, minding the gap since 1996 < 1377538397 651444 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're going to wear out the hexagrams, peeps! watch it < 1377538446 715288 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh =P < 1377538458 667102 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are... < 1377538466 407819 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 64 * 64 < 1377538469 107632 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): < 1377538470 683731 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 64 * 64 < 1377538472 694980 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4096 < 1377538483 955570 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing < 1377538484 428025 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :transitions. we can still abuse metasepia for a while. < 1377538615 277207 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: maidens are vegetarians? < 1377538622 11063 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of them < 1377538723 558491 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something something meat something something lips < 1377538729 809088 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so the combinations never come back? < 1377538750 73267 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's random < 1377538754 626638 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ching mother fucker < 1377538774 599934 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: they do, but Bike is an anarcho-suppressor today. < 1377538779 771686 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: check your privileges! < 1377538793 40227 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1377538793 323873 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Conjoining" to "Skinning" < 1377538797 792399 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsck /dev/privileges < 1377538799 166085 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds about right < 1377538802 716407 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my privileges are telling me to oppress roujo < 1377538805 608475 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1377538814 220743 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx privileges < 1377538871 500217 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was originally planning to have an sqlite DB to back the yi thingy, in order to have complete descriptions and stuff and relations and everything and ascii art... < 1377538895 271904 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's going to get lumped in the Great Cosmic Todo List of my Increasingly Vaporiferous Second Bot Iteration. < 1377538901 420084 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dag < 1377538905 212605 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck dag < 1377538905 591575 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dag definition: a hanging end or shred. < 1377538910 743962 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1377538920 192407 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1377538949 32807 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ça a bin d'l'air que c'est ça qui est ça, なるほど, and all that sort of thing. < 1377538961 448641 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh < 1377538981 586311 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Emily has been completely refactors three to four times already < 1377538985 669511 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's good for her health =P < 1377538998 602270 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1377539038 744695 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :grosssss < 1377539059 891148 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I'll give a go at cuttlefishing that bot during the fête du travail. probably. < 1377539069 48196 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that or I'll be shuffling mahjon tiles) < 1377539146 718573 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be at a wedding, so good luck ^^ < 1377539465 854679 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i found the quote i wanted earlier < 1377539489 825956 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377539501 72643 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oh what the government?" "Yes! I'm not gonna call them that, because I don't believe they govern." < 1377539515 206476 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lif emotto < 1377539592 804506 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ow. ooooooooow. please stop. the few remaining floating solid mushy bits in my cranium are raising riots to overthrow my body away and replace it with a benevolent dictator that will provide them with a lifelong sugar supply. < 1377539605 921842 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck lif emotto < 1377539606 267029 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377539610 856203 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortunately that quote is satire < 1377539637 631102 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I call dibs on calling poe's law on that one. < 1377539872 501170 :Tod-Autojoined2!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377539881 301420 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did I mention http://archive.ics.uci.edu/ml/datasets/Mushroom < 1377539896 318486 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, uci has a mushroom set! < 1377539904 354324 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lot of mushrooms. < 1377539970 719338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :only Agaricus and Lepiota though < 1377539980 145573 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of observations but only 23 species < 1377540003 627212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "No Lepiota species is recommended as edible" < 1377540010 30024 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good observation < 1377540016 976896 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(edibility being what the data set is meant to classify) < 1377540044 270001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they are easily confused with Agaricus though < 1377540154 341940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :same family and it looks like they used to be considered the same genus < 1377540159 70589 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that happens a lot with mushrooms < 1377540175 246234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :type species confusion, moving species between genera < 1377540192 260472 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Psilocybe cubensis used to be Stropharia cubensis < 1377540265 334786 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377540282 373522 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stropharia rugosoannulata is pretty and delicious < 1377540289 99485 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377540294 645670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we found them growing on MIT's campus at one point < 1377540467 483920 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1377540468 973976 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377540493 22303 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1377540635 99355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed a bug with "give up and use memcpy" < 1377540651 430755 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should get to mushroom hunting. it sounds fun. < 1377540657 453457 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good song, too < 1377540673 855950 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“oh baby... give up and use memcpy ♪” < 1377540685 150490 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant mushroom hunting!! < 1377540704 676960 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know that one < 1377540713 836999 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“oh baby... give up and use mushroom hunting ♪” < 1377540724 981398 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's from an anime. i'm a weeaboo :( < 1377540731 129695 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think the pacific northwest is good for mushroom hunting < 1377540737 558757 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: which one? < 1377540749 459281 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmIsNpDimQ0 < 1377540753 602144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in SF the mushrooms season starts in september < 1377540757 202172 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah, but i live in the dry part now >______> < 1377540765 262306 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's true < 1377540773 191292 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's dry pacific northwest? < 1377540780 750055 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :douglass: do you have any advice about mushroom hunting in eastern Washington state? < 1377540783 535941 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, east of the cascades it's near-desert. < 1377540800 926897 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! cowboy bebop. < 1377540808 837296 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody cares about east of the cascades. the population density drops in much the same way the density drops from land to the ocean < 1377540832 225334 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: so you live in a desert in the ocean, with mushrooms? < 1377540859 509870 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh < 1377540922 21819 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i even knew the cascades were a thing until recently < 1377540944 958657 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought the only mountain ranges in the mainland us were like the rockies and the appalachians < 1377540949 602578 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're kind of overshadowed by the rockies, almost literally < 1377540952 246652 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: http://youtu.be/-ecg5_Y08KI < 1377540999 671093 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean have you seen the rockies. they're /really/ tall < 1377541002 257448 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love how shit 'rocky mountains' is as a name < 1377541013 79275 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cascades are part of the ring of fire, though, which is somewhat more notable < 1377541024 90731 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :our rockies are better than your rockies south of the border. < 1377541033 541610 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone in this state has a story about being covered in ash < 1377541100 366281 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't the rockies continuous with like the grampians and the mountains in norway < 1377541112 306346 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what? < 1377541129 99532 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, oooh, I heard that! < 1377541146 93290 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you saying the rockies and some mountains in norway are the same range < 1377541149 993075 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377541152 363084 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1377541167 987202 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok good that was confusing < 1377541180 272210 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually the appalachians < 1377541186 497947 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1377541187 332327 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Cordillera Oh. Huh. That's interesting < 1377541190 315689 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: so, again, what. < 1377541207 676147 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/1946.html < 1377541215 792201 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're part of the same geological formation < 1377541227 254467 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <Bike> are you saying the rockies and some mountains in norway are the same range < 1377541231 471544 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1095) <Bike> are you saying the rockies and some mountains in norway are the same range < 1377541248 372609 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, continents move sometimes < 1377541257 787608 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're tricky like that < 1377541262 618384 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but seriously the "rockies" go down to antarctica. damn yo < 1377541280 707825 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I allowed to forward the quote list to a friend to help him understand the extent of what #esöteric is, or must this valuable knowledge be kept hidden? < 1377541286 902995 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i like how my quotes get across that i am an idiot < 1377541290 323694 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :antarctica is probably rocky yes < 1377541295 779765 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes bike < 1377541301 701644 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: don't tell anyone, but i've done it........... < 1377541303 713222 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :interested re: this idiot business < 1377541304 59780 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.18054 < 1377541306 405225 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes boily < 1377541311 54415 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow ur mean mnoqy < 1377541311 752596 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.25683 < 1377541338 194611 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. how come the only boily quote that comes out is that one? < 1377541340 760311 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :disappointing < 1377541345 331427 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote boily < 1377541346 527430 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :925) <olsner> boily: the man eating chicken is just a normal man, it's quite common to eat chicken in some parts of the world \ 926) <elliott> ~eval 1+2 <cuttlefish> Error (127): <elliott> this is a great bot boily i love it \ 935) <boily> not only there is no God, but try to find an APL keyboard on Sunday. \ 938) <boily> ais523: I'm not sure my < 1377541359 681904 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean. I got an impressive record just there ↑ < 1377541379 523010 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fsvo impressive. with the current economy collapse, that's what you get.) < 1377541392 599183 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still laugh at elliott's hawaii quote < 1377541405 953948 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes < 1377541410 866916 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.14992 < 1377541448 907104 :nooodl!~nooodl@178-119-143-49.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :good hawaii quote < 1377541452 929521 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I like the lens one. perfectly coherent. < 1377541457 480592 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote hawaii < 1377541458 938751 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :901) <elliott> okay so <elliott> i went to wikimapia per Bike <elliott> and found a tiny little nowhere that looked like it might be it <elliott> zoomed in <elliott> thought aw yeah this looks remote maybe it's it <elliott> turns out it's hawaii <elliott> i am not very good at this < 1377541489 178701 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: slightly worried that i have more than one lens quote < 1377541530 888408 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh hm. you should use lenses to gather them, then. < 1377541545 655723 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh < 1377541585 360188 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: there, some weeabeats to distract you: http://youtu.be/w6DUeJHYTRU < 1377541597 506763 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no ears rn, lent them out < 1377541599 408649 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx anyway tho < 1377541674 160397 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you always invoke registered nurses... < 1377541676 542153 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck tho < 1377541676 686894 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377541676 896147 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377541693 807063 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nurses do a lot of good work ,man. < 1377541915 581354 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote navajo < 1377541916 943789 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :728) <Taneb> hang on I have bright idea <Taneb> navajo to f me 1 in 3 people < 1377541928 287959 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote profanity spe < 1377541929 813349 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :729) <Taneb> profanity specialities < 1377541937 856660 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote you verse < 1377541939 224533 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :730) <Taneb> thank you verse I'm not quite innocent < 1377541944 276293 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this from when you tried speech recognition < 1377541945 34915 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a fun half hour < 1377541947 162165 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1377541951 775034 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is fungot. < 1377541952 288581 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: sir john. neighbour banks, into brian's walk, the mad keeper. here comes brabantio and the valiant moor. < 1377541959 260891 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a good technology < 1377541996 863953 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote hang on < 1377541998 501185 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :719) <Ngevd> I don't know which version of Linux kernel I'm using atm <Ngevd> Hang on <Ngevd> I'm on Windows < 1377542032 205428 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is identity commutative? < 1377542048 633038 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1377542136 588723 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: thanks. I was worried for a moment there. < 1377542156 981811 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1377542444 720246 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: those are fun quotes < 1377542456 262361 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you remember what you said? < 1377542478 60143 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, apart from "Hang on, I have a bright idea", no < 1377542499 893127 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I've just realised I pronounce xor the same as one of the Latin words for wife < 1377542515 855113 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which word? < 1377542569 438381 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"uxor" < 1377542576 19300 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would, I guess, make sense < 1377542581 162673 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gzeaurre? < 1377542701 311407 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a stupid awful speech thingy < 1377542720 329357 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where speech thingy is somewhere between accent and voice < 1377542824 343055 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I begin both "xor" and "uxor" with kind of a very short oo sound) < 1377542842 42834 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say "zor" I think < 1377542848 659670 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1377542880 741579 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say «gzor». < 1377542882 978594 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i say either "zor" or "eks or" depending < 1377542887 475172 :nooodl!~nooodl@178-119-143-49.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :uxor is pronounced "ook-sor" though, not "uck-sor" < 1377542903 961861 :nooodl!~nooodl@178-119-143-49.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it is a short oo sound? wow that's a weird way to say xor < 1377542907 973153 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously one should say "add in the finite field of size 2" < 1377542914 196316 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i say 'chor' < 1377542920 993867 :nooodl!~nooodl@178-119-143-49.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: <3 < 1377542923 120250 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very back of the throat vowel sound, too < 1377542946 262166 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i try to avoid situations in which i'd have to say xor < 1377542992 985722 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :life goals < 1377542998 34209 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just say no to xor < 1377543053 380111 :nooodl!~nooodl@178-119-143-49.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too mnoqy :( < 1377543075 731040 :nooodl!~nooodl@178-119-143-49.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess hypothetically i'd just say ksor < 1377543086 669283 :nooodl!~nooodl@178-119-143-49.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what the heck is english's problem with initial /ks/) < 1377543138 940299 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pronounce xor, instead of "xor" or "xor", "xor" xor "xor". < 1377543161 967907 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im fine with ~ksor~ and ~zor~ and i could probably say either if i'm not paying attention to how i pronounce things < 1377543174 735588 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :under such circumstances i can also see myself saying "exclusive or" though < 1377543206 258014 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone once said you have to hit you and "or", to make "xor" < 1377543214 315011 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that isn't a real speech < 1377543215 156261 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can say ksor or you can say zor but you can't say both < 1377543475 315058 :nooodl!~nooodl@178-119-143-49.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: i'd probably say "ksnor" < 1377543671 925278 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never understood that one < 1377543679 368826 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"xnor" is the same as "not xor" right? < 1377543683 498183 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that should be nxor < 1377543704 837720 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Yes I agree I have called it NXOR instead of XNOR usually < 1377543706 525704 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"exclusive nor" doesn't make that much sense does it? < 1377543718 190397 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good < 1377543738 947765 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377543823 38925 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :during Bike's absence, I autoproclaim myself to be the appointed oppressor. < 1377543847 118707 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I arbitrarily declare zzo38 to be oppressed. < 1377543878 57135 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i call it "equals" < 1377543907 814180 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you arbitrarily declare zzo38 to be oppressed. < 1377543925 829385 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure that was arbitrary, nothing personnal < 1377543934 819370 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly. < 1377543971 341290 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could have thrown some dice to randomly have an oppressed designated victim, but then it'd have implied a very complex chorded keypress to get to the tilde. < 1377543976 899260 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377543988 16118 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is declaring someone to be oppressed a form of oppression < 1377543997 869146 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: go away. I like my power just fine. < 1377544008 265557 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1377544018 989289 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yup! the easiest form you can imbue yourself with! < 1377544077 949603 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I just wonder why, is all. < 1377544121 694718 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no why. in fact, as a dictator, I shouldn't have to provide any why. < 1377544164 663569 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you question my decision, I'll unleash a cold, wet and slimy starfish upon you. < 1377544241 745524 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care; I think we should need to know why! < 1377544271 833029 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hones a starfish... < 1377545126 599181 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377545788 132323 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1377545813 161471 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Excess Flood < 1377546028 710349 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1377546143 32564 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1377546150 23821 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1377546150 168495 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 5h 28m 34s ago: I frown upon this loophole < 1377546150 168677 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 5h 27m 18s ago: why are you being frowned at? < 1377546197 390410 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: he doesn't like me using the quit message to get around the script preventing me from saying < 1377546239 114468 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's... what? a script from unhthing you? < 1377546245 934141 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that concept. < 1377546296 252671 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not unprecedented, Gregor ha[ds] a script to stop him saying :P < 1377546308 322993 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I no longer need it. < 1377546311 412821 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use that smiley anymore. < 1377546428 785308 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1377546468 265000 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth, hth. < 1377546526 877725 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1377546938 597097 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sacje: today's Question: how do you feel about insertino? < 1377546940 724850 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/no/on/ < 1377547036 127194 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe it is a complicated manner and i will consider all the options before arriving at a conclusion < 1377547039 705754 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet PRIVMSG #esoteric :matter < 1377547254 909667 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377547272 177609 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, anyone here know a file on Linux that can be opened for read successfully, but which cannot be successfully read from? < 1377547273 680414 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sacje: tbh it's a matter of to vim or not to vim. < 1377547281 722177 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: /dev/zero? < 1377547291 351155 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, you can read from that successfully < 1377547293 531345 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get a bunch of zeros < 1377547314 635799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about /dev/full < 1377547321 626270 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… the man page suggests that a tty may work in a process that ignores SIGTTIN < 1377547326 776942 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think that returns EOF < 1377547333 408699 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh mine returns zeroes < 1377547337 582206 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck SIGTTIN < 1377547338 17341 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :On POSIX-compliant platforms, SIGTTIN is the signal sent to a process when it attempts to read from the tty while in the background. < 1377547338 793859 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that < 1377547345 891659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought there was supposed to be /dev/empty but I don't have one < 1377547353 332574 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SIGTTIN sounds right, but complex. < 1377547354 149099 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy enough to create < 1377547358 435264 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :touch /dev/empty ;) < 1377547368 767304 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about mknodding it? < 1377547415 55515 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't /dev/null do that? < 1377547424 387513 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, /dev/null is empty on read < 1377547479 649250 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you want something that actually fails on read rather than behave as an empty file? < 1377547509 925466 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yeah, I want the read to physically error out < 1377547526 518336 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible to emulate a disk IO error? < 1377547543 182085 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want that file as stdin maybe <&- or something could work? < 1377547545 96147 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there was a research fake filesystem that you fused for that kind of fuzzing purpose. < 1377547547 337658 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this came out out of a discussion about whether "return NULL;" is a valid implementation of gets() < 1377547551 835774 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: web of lies could do it < 1377547553 708909 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck ~duck < 1377547554 51251 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the duck. Dax the duck. < 1377547559 837019 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT? < 1377547568 343417 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not mentally up to screwing with that codebase yet < 1377547581 185477 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: woooooooooah... that is some nifty discovery. < 1377547587 926247 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just write a kernel module < 1377547594 723981 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: basically it's a debugger-like system that sandboxes a program, also can cause arbitrary system calls it makes to return arbitrary return values < 1377547610 98790 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not very hard to make it output -EIO to any attempt to call read(), for instance < 1377547612 145540 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck ~duck duck < 1377547612 502050 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377547617 729584 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck ~duck ~duck < 1377547618 6544 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377547625 244364 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather harder to make it return -EIO only on specific read attempts, though < 1377547726 862140 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat <&- < 1377547728 344115 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: -: Bad file descriptor \ cat: closing standard input: Bad file descriptor < 1377547766 1111 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… the first error there is perfectly reasonable < 1377547768 584927 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second, however, isn't < 1377547771 390803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bug in cat? < 1377547804 478067 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have: ... < 1377547806 489746 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: -: Mauvais descripteur de fichier < 1377547808 489454 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: fermeture de l'entrée standard: Mauvais descripteur de fichier < 1377547827 884698 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's trying to read from (and then close) fd 0 but there's no file open for that file descriptor (bash closed it) < 1377547848 655427 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: sure < 1377547857 153246 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you try to read from a file descriptor and discover it doesn't exist < 1377547862 318502 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to follow up by closing it is a bug < 1377547876 784381 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I actually have a French locale installed specifically for the purpose of making sure I don't make assumptions about locale when parsing error output from programs < 1377547945 216313 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I didn't consider that, although it is a good idea. However another idea might be for your program to switch to a default locale while running in order to avoid these problem. < 1377547945 809173 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my $LANG is set to fr_CA.UTF-8 because that's the way I like it, and because our workplace mandates having everythin in french. < 1377547963 392929 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/n\b/ng/ < 1377547970 348901 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that is my solution, but I need a second locale installed to test that that solution works < 1377547988 915930 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, OK, that makes sense. < 1377548018 677985 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other reason I have it installed is so that I can check for encoding problems in parsing locale-specific error messages, when the user requests that < 1377548072 9179 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mauvais descripteur de fichier < 1377548111 678539 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat - - <&- < 1377548112 850335 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: -: Bad file descriptor \ cat: -: Bad file descriptor \ cat: closing standard input: Bad file descriptor < 1377548116 692090 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you in quebec or new brunswick or what, out of curiosity < 1377548139 433891 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I'm guessing that cat attempts to close stdin no matter what < 1377548144 18312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat /etc/passwd <&- < 1377548147 704434 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat /etc/passwd <&- < 1377548148 957346 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /etc/passwd: No such file or directory < 1377548155 17614 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, not? < 1377548160 587764 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat - /etc/passwd - <&- < 1377548161 640111 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: -: Bad file descriptor \ cat: /etc/passwd: No such file or directory \ cat: -: Bad file descriptor \ cat: closing standard input: Bad file descriptor < 1377548186 566432 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377548188 603686 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may or may not close stdin? is this a good thing to do < 1377548205 772120 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why have I never tried closing stdin < 1377548216 536756 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: because it's normally pointless < 1377548216 845130 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why doesn't each - get its own close attempt? < 1377548224 399747 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite reasonable when daemonizing, though < 1377548236 205655 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: probably, but it sounds like something I'd need to *test* < 1377548248 335510 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :closing stderr is more fun < 1377548257 78100 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat /etc/passwd 2>&- < 1377548258 317323 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377548261 928571 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but recently there's a lot of stuff I don't think about testing < 1377548270 341474 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can't tell whether the command malfunctions or not < 1377548270 486093 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to wanna test everything < 1377548284 229481 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except via strace or the like < 1377548360 587603 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ strace -e trace=write -o /tmp/t cat /nonexistent 2>&- < 1377548387 127750 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently, it keeps trying to write error messages even though the kernel's spamming -EBADF at it < 1377548424 871146 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… if stdout is closed, do freshly opened files get the number 2 or 3? < 1377548428 430669 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*stderr < 1377548509 879226 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: in Montréal. < 1377548516 109306 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1377548536 957453 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l /proc/self/fd <&- < 1377548538 663767 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :total 0 \ lr-x------ 1 5000 928466 64 Aug 26 20:22 0 -> /proc/287/fd \ l-wx------ 1 5000 928466 64 Aug 26 20:22 1 -> pipe:[251] \ l-wx------ 1 5000 928466 64 Aug 26 20:22 2 -> /tty1 \ lr-x------ 1 5000 928466 64 Aug 26 20:22 3 -> /console \ l-wx------ 1 5000 928466 64 Aug 26 20:22 4 -> /console \ lr-x------ 1 5000 928466 64 Aug 26 20:22 5 -> /tty1 < 1377548604 26255 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: clever < 1377548614 524592 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote boily < 1377548615 942358 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :926) <elliott> ~eval 1+2 <cuttlefish> Error (127): <elliott> this is a great bot boily i love it < 1377548625 787495 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: trailing space < 1377548629 322567 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it appears to have opened a directory onto fd 0 < 1377548646 346125 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, this has /lots/ of scope for causing programs to malfunction in bizarre ways < 1377548689 563286 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: where do I trail? what have a incongruously spaced? < 1377548702 4166 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: wat < 1377548721 970588 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You're trailed your trail in space < 1377548738 206152 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: `quote boily gives just that quote when there's a space after the y < 1377548751 112826 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377548768 529010 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a frequent result of tab completing nicks, i've fixed it in several other commands < 1377548770 289532 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 1+2 < 1377548770 914029 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1377548776 645510 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: s/\ba\b/I/ < 1377548794 423379 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote \> < 1377548795 107231 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ooooooh... < 1377548795 953129 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :84) <AnMaster> fungot!*@* added to ignore list. <fungot> AnMaster: i'd find that a bit annoying to wait for an ack. \ 89) <soupdragon> if you claim that the universe is more than 3D the burden of proof is on you to produce a klien bottle that doesn't self intersect <soupdragon> ^ I learned that trick from atheists \ 298) <zzo38> <elliott> < 1377548816 695502 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: what are you trying to match there? < 1377548820 518477 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: my bot works just fine. < 1377548828 510747 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> and two spaces? < 1377548829 505079 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : <hint>:1:16: < 1377548829 649810 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched... < 1377548829 794508 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ~ < 1377548831 226553 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :758) <monqy> ophanim: omee~ \ 923) <Sgeo> I feel like (A.~[:i.[:!#) is verbose \ 926) <elliott> ~eval 1+2 <cuttlefish> Error (127): <elliott> this is a great bot boily i love it < 1377548832 574096 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trailing spaces are hard to see < 1377548832 718982 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: trailing spaces yes < 1377548847 556026 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you don't say. < 1377548873 641419 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 758 < 1377548878 143184 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* <monqy> ophanim: omee~ < 1377548891 510321 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that quote needed deleting < 1377548893 378172 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who was ophanim? why did mnoqy omee~ him/her/it/[EXPUNGED]? < 1377548904 998793 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good question < 1377548910 121890 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is omee~? < 1377548935 707734 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good question < 1377548939 985470 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck omee < 1377548940 354487 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377549002 337899 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ophanim < 1377549003 663464 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ophanim? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377549004 68630 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              | < 1377549004 264354 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            o/`¯º < 1377549117 749611 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so as it turns out, writing the .c file to close stdin with emacs caused the terminal to crash < 1377549126 125644 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean I didn't even compile it < 1377549127 589455 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: have you considered making HackEgo strip final spaces on input < 1377549134 825882 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: that is probably some other problem, then < 1377549142 300396 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure? < 1377549147 519639 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's rare for C files to do anything useful unless an attempt is made to compile and/or run them < 1377549158 411059 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the terminal understood I was trying to harm it < 1377549168 511554 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and shut me out before I could do so < 1377549195 770739 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :some C files are also programs in other languages (but even then, you usually have to compile or run them) < 1377549258 230502 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I specifically said "compile and/or run" for that reason :) < 1377549432 985747 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be interesting to have a file where viewing it is enough to cause the terminal to "compile and/or run" it < 1377549472 509216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I have a few terminal test files which are specifically used via catting them to the terminal < 1377549488 716297 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are polyglots of various terminal types < 1377549523 582819 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, for instance, http://nethack4.org/media/charset.vt100 < 1377549598 64058 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have IBM graphics :( < 1377549646 659629 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so apparently closing stdin, stdout or stderr doesn't have any effect other than them not being open any more < 1377549663 283145 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: on the terminal? no, it doesn't < 1377549669 241499 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but write(STDOUT, str, len); doesn't crash when stdout is closed, it just doesn't do anything < 1377549670 230134 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :terminals mostly don't care which programs have the open < 1377549687 953330 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the system call returns -EBADF < 1377549700 859670 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which translates into setting errno to EBADF and returning the error return value, in C < 1377549711 197519 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1377549724 312452 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have discarded the return value < 1377549794 433971 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/8TCfmYrM < 1377550744 684559 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1377550772 995481 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAURGH! WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY? < 1377550801 640410 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid undocumented mess of a fungot of stupid XML of the hair of a horse's buttocks. < 1377550802 27853 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: macd. is thy name: i like not faire tearmes, and a slaue of mee, as i take it < 1377550859 462742 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you get a json error complaining about a mismatched '}' because you swapped single and double quote in a tag attribute... < 1377550859 611541 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you mind people (well, just boily, I guess) using you as a swear word? < 1377550861 73453 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: enter count rossillion and the frenchmen, as at work: my old master, and to drinkings and swearings and starings, pribbles and prabbles? will not he? catesby. he doth entreat your grace to his maiesties parliament, holden at bury the first of britain which did put his browes within a golden crowne, heauen for his mercy: hear your sentence you haue conspir'd against our royal person as is the air, and forth again, as if < 1377550891 977448 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :frenchmen and rossillions and salmiakki, oh my! < 1377550901 536648 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wildly flails around < 1377551016 596695 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I can't use my precious bot as a swearing target, and I have a sentimental attachment to yours. < 1377551060 308916 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :∴, fungot has it. besides, it helps me calm down like a nice mint herbal tea. < 1377551060 993774 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 1. tis likely, by all your good leaues gentlemen; heere ile make my heauen in a ladies lappe, and she there dead, that's romeos faithfull wife: i, and the tallest: it is my fashion when i see my shame in him. < 1377551284 840487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would make you want to use the name of a bot as a swearword anyway, though? < 1377551338 412103 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea. it works. < 1377551356 544764 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what did you do to deserve this? < 1377551357 318762 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: othello. would! nay, hear me, hero: wooing, wedding, and repenting is as a fever longing still, for that which is the mightier, in his time thought false: and fnord crispian shall ne're goe by, from this vnhallow'd and blood-stained hole? < 1377551387 273783 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377551444 759052 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fnord Crispian, sounds namey < 1377551476 688951 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's my daily dibs quota? I'd really like to use that name for my next roleplay. < 1377551520 182243 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377551546 900759 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377551972 607954 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1377552030 59790 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What roleplay? < 1377552064 644962 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ask fungot nicely and it might give you the rights < 1377552065 333550 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: bull. i know him, ' tis not my profit that does lead mine honour: mine honour it, repent that ere thy tongue, that truth should be suspected. speak, pyramus. thisby, stand forth. < 1377552091 490040 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: D&D 4e. < 1377552116 172555 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: please, with shiny teary eyes as in 少女 anime? < 1377552116 329849 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: cas. how now, what newes with your mastership? la. i prethee recount some of them. < 1377552130 662178 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeh...? < 1377552135 863275 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really like 4e much; I like 3.5e < 1377552144 438219 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can play 4e if you want, though < 1377552163 235974 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377552176 96354 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: fungot prethees, make of that what you want < 1377552177 40782 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: falstaff. let me be punish'd, sovereign, lest example breed, by his highness' warrant, master shrieve: dispose of them, and if it be now, ' tis with vs, we shall begin our ancient fnord lordings, farewell; and be proud of thy bondage. i have it: we have always truly serv'd you; and beseech so to esteem of us: keep on your way < 1377552192 967386 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 our DM's been working for some time now on a custom system that we haven't tested yet. < 1377552193 112471 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377552229 21345 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we also play paranoia from time to time, but my character's name is fixed and set. «Shlebesh Gurgudugurgudu». < 1377552536 544659 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt the Computer would approve of that name, Citizen < 1377552669 732996 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's my own personal name. other people don't have to know it :D < 1377552724 855972 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the computer approves of secrets, Citizen < 1377552782 245609 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B02DEDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1377552827 805297 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1377552829 608532 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is the brother of Roujo's brother and he's monetizing the company Roujo works at, or something Canadian like that. < 1377552883 638306 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? olsner < 1377552885 596460 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner seems to exist at least. < 1377552895 496909 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So he definitely isn't Canadian < 1377552898 684967 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Ngevd < 1377552900 543647 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​+z`o|Vˏy;X pig霛҆DN̜b35Ri {w\dZ_5SVl&a?NJ; y.#.I \ /D o 0?C К0 %! \ T= FwuO-"]ArUH5?; \ ;03V LӊԻU=| < 1377552931 821347 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Roujo < 1377552933 545321 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo is still a Java heretic. His claim to Canadianness is soon to be verified by boily, treaties be damned. A cocktail and destruction of the Universe are scheduled at 19h00. < 1377552934 107954 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, stuff like Canada may *seem* to exist without actually existing < 1377552945 53180 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? canada < 1377552946 356496 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :canada? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377552946 996611 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1377552947 141594 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           º¯`\o < 1377552977 379680 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, ever seen Scott Pilgrim? In that film, Canada doesn't seem to exist at all! < 1377552983 113425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I think we've decided that Canada is in fact the only country such that we're confident it exists < 1377553011 221543 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wow, what a plot twist < 1377553015 408192 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did this happen? < 1377553038 441411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a while back, not quite sure how long, though; it's possible that time itself is unreliable for that purpose < 1377553043 29022 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: as far as I recall that film had nothing to do with Canada < 1377553053 464799 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is possible ais523 got sent through an anti-truth wormhole < 1377553054 369242 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1377553059 435224 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1377553061 229629 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your evil overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a lying Norwegian who hates Roald Dahl. < 1377553070 43617 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? elliott < 1377553071 850673 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott wrote this learn DB, and wrote or improved many of the other commands in this bot. He probably has done other things? He is also tire. And a lystrosaur. < 1377553086 206291 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d-module < 1377553086 699352 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, the first line is "In the far off land of Toronto, Canada, Scott Pilgrim is dating a high schooler" < 1377553087 527316 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-modules are just modules over the ring of differential operators. Taneb invented them. < 1377553112 892799 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible for time to conspire such that the time during which we're confident that Canada exists doesn't exist? < 1377553151 226716 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so, but I'm not confident < 1377553230 308494 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither am I < 1377553238 138016 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can confirm that Canada can exist < 1377553245 155739 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether it does... < 1377553251 389696 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1377553258 884515 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, simply put: < 1377553267 811075 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? whether it does < 1377553269 371739 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether it does? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377553269 742309 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                      | < 1377553269 958366 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                    o/`¯º < 1377553284 924384 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canada may be the country I've got second-closest to on land without actually visiting < 1377553305 54558 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Second to the Vatican < 1377553326 880690 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :when in rome ... visit the vatican! < 1377553333 18198 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about passing through on a train without stopping < 1377553334 352580 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that count < 1377553345 427815 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(on second thought, don't bother, it's really just a big church) < 1377553351 53488 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty! < 1377553374 991263 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: we don't have trains. rumours of Via Rail still existing are unfounded and blatant lies. < 1377553577 345629 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377553744 867869 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw happy UK Summer Bank Holiday everyone! < 1377553757 133359 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Scotland excepted) < 1377553767 972007 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hmm, thanks < 1377553776 989059 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that mostly just annoyed me < 1377553779 131124 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :via closing shops < 1377553782 309365 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1377553855 99376 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck mm < 1377553856 784129 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm definition: messieurs. < 1377553913 438689 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm and mselles < 1377553972 489530 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1377553984 492271 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime fizzie < 1377553984 776882 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for fizzie is Tue Aug 27 00:53:04 2013 < 1377553998 28998 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan お休みなさい! < 1377553998 173548 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377554335 923498 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1377554775 653018 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1377554796 186035 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377555212 999392 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377556032 146742 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellotsy. < 1377556441 135028 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://books.google.com/books/about/Ramanujan_Revisited.html?id=GJUEAQAAIAAJ "Religion > Hinduism > General" hey how about fuck you < 1377556486 325502 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377557014 947346 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377557111 594056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bikeyellsatamazon.tumblr.com < 1377557136 492713 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would follow any other tumblr? (TM) < 1377557157 166256 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should feature tom selleck, waterfalls and sandwiches. < 1377557463 951631 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B02DEDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0.1/20130814063812] < 1377557519 498422 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377557529 624729 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helloily. < 1377557834 625394 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1377558237 246972 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377558251 551394 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1377558254 62188 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1377558731 582346 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1377559194 790450 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Address 0x1 is not stack'd, malloc'd or (recently) free'd < 1377559209 78311 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :who would have guessed < 1377559242 315861 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what might be fun: find a platform where the stack grows upwards < 1377559254 149518 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and using mmap and sigaltstack trickery, get the stack to start at NULL < 1377559625 125568 :nooodl!~nooodl@178-119-143-49.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377559662 732271 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377560072 20971 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing like a good youtube touhou mix full blast in your earphones when doing overtime. < 1377560490 167613 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377560820 109058 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377561084 183588 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377561084 368127 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1377561084 368276 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1377561794 184162 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1377562048 382690 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1377562300 219097 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377562720 207879 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377562720 353040 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1377562720 353267 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1377562951 82205 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum. it's awfully quiet in here. guess everybody else went to sleep, or something similarly cadaverous... < 1377562993 790086 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that, or as bash.org pointed out, I'm on the receiving end of giant snails doing weird things whil I'm unconscious and dreaming I'm on IRC. < 1377563056 438139 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net PART :#esoteric < 1377563120 906481 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ < 1377563174 993788 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that ascii art for a snail? < 1377563186 709571 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1377563205 541494 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the name for that symbol in many languages means "snail" < 1377563269 659220 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in turkish it's "horse" because of a bad pun. < 1377563277 684737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the pun < 1377563286 437287 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"at". it's turkish for "horse". < 1377563311 85058 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Finnish some people call it “cat’s tail” but most just say “at”. < 1377563389 789012 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of puns, are there any good puns out there? seems like every one of them is considered bad. < 1377563395 692814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kitty :3 < 1377563399 325447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a cat on my porch yesterday < 1377563407 131295 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't try to eat the helper worms < 1377563412 69987 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the basil < 1377563421 380777 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some also call it miukumauku, an onomatopoetic word that translates to something like “a mew, a meow” < 1377563507 303669 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: in hebrew it is colloquially called a "strudel" hth < 1377563550 247458 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377563588 898582 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nom < 1377563729 782008 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fscking hungry. I was supposed to eat three hours ago. < 1377563864 134642 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/^I/I'm/ < 1377563870 888228 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were you supposed to eat < 1377563886 312015 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my regular weekly poutine. < 1377563899 479050 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's my first week that I can finally get beer! < 1377563908 444199 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(first week since June) < 1377563934 698265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why's that < 1377563945 603561 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was on medication for the past few months. < 1377563963 100919 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1377563978 727015 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm stuck here slaving myself away for a stupid demo tomorrow. < 1377563988 191272 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. I'll get plenty of time off on Friday. < 1377564533 221043 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i seriously wish someone would ban the political compass < 1377564551 18597 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hilarious though < 1377564614 140426 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I scored (-6.5, -6.5) on it :D < 1377564621 274730 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but where should it be banned from? < 1377564621 419394 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations libertarians, you have developed an understanding of politics more sophisticated than CNN < 1377564636 575367 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't say it's 'libertarian' < 1377564655 721281 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the questions are slanted towards leftist economic policies < 1377564676 102972 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :All compasses should be banned. < 1377564808 622223 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Governments should penalise businesses that mislead the public." like seriously < 1377564831 17334 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that leftist or just dumb? i would say dumb < 1377564875 826450 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole "socially liberal but economically conservative" being a thing that makes sense is libertarian though, thinking you can separate the axes i mean < 1377564897 958827 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1377564927 107811 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't there that confusing thing where "economically liberal" actually means right wing < 1377564938 493449 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's a clear ideological axis to that question, and i don't think even ayn rand would say 'disagree' to that one < 1377564968 659193 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the libertarian axis to that question was "of course not, the magical hand of magic free market adam smith will fix everything!" < 1377564970 27413 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: that's "classical liberal" < 1377564980 613036 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you think? i'm not so sure < 1377564995 810354 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always remember reading libertarian types being opposed to exactly that type of regulatin < 1377565009 843805 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. supporting the idea that "fox news is allowed to lie, that's not the government's business", etc < 1377565035 649718 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like I'm not the only one that egregiously accentise in uncouth places... < 1377565050 429238 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of chomsky's hilarious libel thing < 1377565052 166534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah well in theory the market will demand a superior news product and the liars lose market share < 1377565056 104582 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in practice that barely happens ever < 1377565069 759354 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a comment in python code: # ... that display existing pîcking orders... < 1377565072 746616 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :an inadequate theory. < 1377565073 224457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people are lazy and barely even watch the news, yet alone informed meta-criticism < 1377565081 386567 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let alone* < 1377565095 493172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes FOX will say something egregiously horrible and lose advertisers for a time < 1377565101 826576 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact I think Glenn Beck left because of that kind of thing < 1377565115 706710 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :glenn beck had his own ad problems didn't he < 1377565119 911405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's different from the low level steady stream of lies that aren't outrageous in an attention grabbing way < 1377565120 329642 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah I'm not sure anyone here needs convincing of that one <.< < 1377565124 892874 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the radio guys anyway < 1377565148 534107 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember hearing some ruckus with dittoheads or whoever complaining about some company pulling ads because that's censorship < 1377565182 399584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :freedom of speech means freedom from consequences for speech, right? < 1377565187 830455 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure that's how it works < 1377565190 206069 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1377565190 789742 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/fraud.html < 1377565194 743920 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: except when it's people you don't like < 1377565195 785309 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, duh, man. < 1377565196 197879 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's okay < 1377565219 559448 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"<racist thing>" "that's racist!" "you're just trying to censor me!" "actually we're kinda just saying you're racist" < 1377565223 406027 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like i'm pretty sure that question's going to classify the objectivist line as 'economic left' < 1377565233 574896 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that sounds like a different kind of fraud... < 1377565250 723057 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :" it consists, in essence, of one man receiving the material values, goods or services of another, then refusing to pay for them" doesn't sound like lying < 1377565259 186738 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fraud involves a similarly indirect use of force: it consists of obtaining material values without their owner’s consent, under false pretenses or false promises." < 1377565260 417828 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :except in an extremely bizarre sense of "material" i guess? < 1377565294 258305 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean basically in rand's world the state should only exist to enforce contracts (as in actual contracts, not "the social contract" or whatever) < 1377565297 227308 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like 'misleading someone into performing some exchange with you' < 1377565328 134119 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, yeah; and it seems to me like she thought fraud falls within that remit < 1377565330 957957 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what, can we just agree that neither of us want to think too deeply about rand? because i really don't < 1377565340 963831 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's definitely a dumb question. < 1377565394 271716 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... all i'm trying to say here is that i think the compass is slanted towards 'left-libertarian', not right < 1377565397 256321 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a million randian digits with 100000 normal deviates < 1377565417 238173 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly, maybe it is, i thought that it was designed by libertarians but i guess that's not the case < 1377565466 336371 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are a pretty dominant source of internet political bullshit < 1377565488 956459 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: imagining trolling r/libertarian or whatever by asking them if this news example constitutes government-punishable fraud < 1377565492 563427 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly this means anyone who wants more than a one dimensional political spectrum is suspected of being a libertarian < 1377565537 583776 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally i think i'm pretty against any dimensionality :V < 1377565579 563535 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably because i like reading about mideast politics and i don't think you can quantify much of that with axes < 1377565593 136724 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds similar to ireland < 1377565611 660375 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, well i think it's similar to any politics if you look closely enough < 1377565653 652429 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure how much good a compass gets you outside of the american two-party sort of system < 1377565676 15067 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Americans have a tendency to make the israeli/palestinean conflict sound more complicated than it is < 1377565688 418565 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to overstate the role of religion and supposed ancient grudges and stuff < 1377565709 66219 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they did apply it to the uk parties: http://www.politicalcompass.org/ukparties2010 < 1377565718 20380 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean saying "the democrats are left and the republicans are right" basically tells you nothing helpful about their policies, and as you keep going you realize wait yeah the parties are just "big tents" < 1377565730 315851 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprise they're both on the right < 1377565733 900050 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh my god if i hear another person talk about how x and y have been fighting for "thousands of years" < 1377565750 626616 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :saudi arabia didn't even EXIST before the 20th century youa ssholes < 1377565762 753301 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do like the split between the nationalist parties there though < 1377565777 816496 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was gonna say the BNP/UKIP thing is funny < 1377565828 726563 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean framing it that way provides a lot of political cover for Israel < 1377565837 727908 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but yeah, palestianians didn't really care about jews before the whole.. israel thing, bla bla you know this < 1377565863 485621 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's lazy and yeah lends itself to "well they're just irrational, better give up and support Peace and Stability" < 1377565871 182317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1377565883 564966 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like how there are the 'british' nationalists (bnp/dup/ukip) and the 'constituent' nationalists (sinn fein/plaid cymru/snp/sdlp) < 1377565913 289790 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there many scottish people in the BNP < 1377565930 52621 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea < 1377565938 996386 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh i mostly think of the BNP as the fuck muslims party < 1377565940 647201 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://scotlandsbnp.blogspot.co.uk/ < 1377565952 983227 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that this site is hosted on blogspot speaks for itself, i feel < 1377565973 280 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Yes, I know we have read about these cases before where the undesirable cannot be kicked out of Britain after a court say`s that it would deny them of the right to family life." and i'm done. < 1377565981 845283 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :undesirable. undesirable < 1377565994 396520 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SNP isn't "nationalist" in the fascist way though, are they? < 1377565996 939673 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1377565999 919412 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're centre-left < 1377566023 230345 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i mean < 1377566030 587495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1377566031 926153 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1377566032 289091 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's the referendum stuff going, btw < 1377566039 179281 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of want Scottish independence to succeed just because it would be interesting, but I have zero skin in the game and zero real understanding of the consequences < 1377566043 815710 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you destroyed UK unity yet < 1377566054 348573 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will definitely be 'no' but the english don't seem to realise that < 1377566072 322939 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i gathered i think < 1377566075 542350 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why will it definitely be 'no' < 1377566124 328548 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because public sentiment is towards no by a significant margin, from every single projection i've seen < 1377566187 268055 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1377566188 174109 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, why is sentiment like that < 1377566214 380543 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's more than a year of campaigning ahead though < 1377566229 333235 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can live in hope < 1377566263 674224 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a staunch unionist in the SA thread who is an annoying git and has an avatar of the Stig, which is enough to make me wish for independence. i'm a solid political thinker. < 1377566271 791915 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1377566274 889673 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who/what is the Stig < 1377566282 690468 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :top gear's test driver < 1377566287 842126 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1377566297 94936 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :top gear is funny but the presenters are kind of douches sometimes < 1377566312 339001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :douchery is the source of all wit (not really) < 1377566315 961890 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was originally going to be called the gimp but someone at the bbc told clarkson he wasn't at repton any more < 1377566327 612662 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that. < 1377566376 606445 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7CnMQ4L9Pc stewart lee on the topic < 1377566472 21986 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i didn't check, but if that's the video where he mention's gordon brown's half-blindness i would like to point out that brown actually went blind playing rugby at university and so completely deserved it) < 1377566481 97976 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mentions < 1377566689 453394 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rugby, the silent killer < 1377566903 524159 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moffett Airfield was going to be called Mountain View Airport but somebody pointed out this is an ominous name for an airport < 1377566913 662134 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE PINEAPLLES MOVE! MWAH AH AH AH AH AH! I CAN GO SLEEP! < 1377566919 950433 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right then < 1377566924 1432 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll have what he's having < 1377566940 634319 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 21 - 9 < 1377566941 254401 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :12 < 1377566955 779948 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woohoo, 11.5 hours of work... < 1377566973 891113 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, i got confused there for a second and thought it was a crack at doctor who < 1377566992 587762 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: our client is an import and distributor of fruits and veggies. I'm working on shipments, and my test data revolves around pineapples. < 1377567024 252359 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry about the sudden insanity. I am not insane. everything is fine. < 1377567490 999185 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to inhale a bigmac. goodnight all. < 1377567493 353005 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1377567495 400704 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377568322 997751 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377571444 629710 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1377571465 227327 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What needs to be made more complex? < 1377571510 128600 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: numbers < 1377571535 383037 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Need to get them off the axises (axes?) < 1377571593 986267 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Do you mean complex numbers? What about the axes is this about? < 1377571663 928491 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I was referring to complex numbers. I was saying numbers need to be made more complex, and by moving them off the axes, I intended to suggest making them have both a real and imaginary part. Although I guess real numbers are complex too. < 1377571827 521707 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complex numbers do have a real and imaginary part. Real numbers are a special case (in that the value and operators convert from real to complex homomorphically) < 1377571910 204101 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, being off the axes implies nonzero real and imaginary parts, which isn't really necessary < 1377572003 320393 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What exactly are you meaning by that? I can see that if you are writing it as a point on a X-Y axis then that is how it works, but I don't know what you mean, especially since you write "which isn't really necessary" too < 1377572072 384536 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I understand it, 5 + 0i is a complex number, but it is on an axis. I mistakenly implied in my joke that it would have to have nonzero real and imaginary parts to be considered a complex number. < 1377572171 768156 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, that's whaty ou meant by it. Yes "5 + 0i" is a complex number (and it is equal to a natural number 5) < 1377572281 678946 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1377572304 164463 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1377572304 309310 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 5h 35m 11s ago: our DM's been working for some time now on a custom system that we haven't tested yet. < 1377572338 728971 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily isn't on right now, but I can tell of my system (and variants of 3.5e which we use) < 1377572517 13498 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use LA (which 4e lacks), and don't use CR and EL (4e keeps these features); my own (unfinished and untested) custom system is like this too; it uses LA although it is called "pseudolevels" instead since I think that is a better name for it. < 1377572606 608256 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1377572659 134560 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can anyone here help me figure out what language this is written in? < 1377572662 259942 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 3 3 3***1_+,10 3 3**7+,100 16 2_++,3__3__3_3_***19+16+,4_4_*2*,10$*1+10$*4$*1_++10$*1+$$3+$5-10_10_*23+10_6_*2_+7$*,,,,,,,,, < 1377572701 164277 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as this < 1377572704 2266 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :>99*1-,25*:*3-,25*:*44*+2-,25*:*44*+,84*,96*1-,97*5-,25*:*1+,25*:*25*+,v @,*52,+*55*:*52,**52*52< < 1377572720 346754 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :satanic runes < 1377572721 469766 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where did you find that? < 1377572735 182339 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they are satanic runes, though < 1377572746 265847 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have any proof < 1377572763 974186 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I am just guessing < 1377572774 853957 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually wait, i've seen this before maybe. i think it was TECO or something related < 1377573019 213152 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a challenge a buddy has me working on to solve < 1377573040 426402 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a puzzle with 5 parts < 1377573047 377734 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :er not teco. one of those old things < 1377573050 144699 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :first part was the first one < 1377573062 923620 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :second part was written in zombie < 1377573066 403865 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :_ probably indicates negation and it's otherwise postfix. maybe < 1377573073 162313 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :third was written in ook < 1377573082 117257 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forth was lolcat < 1377573096 544039 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :5th is the second one i posted < 1377573152 729750 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://scientopia.org/blogs/goodmath/2010/11/30/the-glorious-horror-of-teco/ eh, doesn't look as similar as i thought < 1377573160 904276 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like some weird mash of dc, i don't know < 1377573190 214313 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think dc uses comma though. < 1377573207 21983 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does vi have postfix arithmetic? i haven't a damn clue < 1377573210 743805 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they remind me of a linear brainfuck like language I just have never seen it < 1377573225 804430 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not much like brainfix, it's pretty obviously postfix arithmeticing < 1377573234 65433 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no amount of googling has helped me < 1377573337 29710 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like 3 3 3 3***1_+ means 3*3*3*3-1, probably, and then i kinda lose it because i don't know what the comma is < 1377573430 307819 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377573436 244933 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you treated it just like a comma maybe it is simply a message < 1377573456 259083 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they are ASCII codes then the first three letters are "Par" < 1377573574 486055 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: How did you derive that? < 1377573580 729931 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there are more commas at the end as well as dollar signs, maybe dollar sign is DUP and comma is EMIT perhaps? < 1377573662 212500 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a side note anyone know where I can find a zombie code interpreter? < 1377574339 936013 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realize that the Hackiki changes list has something like "summary: medit/bin/uselessness_rpg_1,,game_rules chebang=#!/usr/bin/env .wiki cont=== Ability scores ==" so some parameters are in the summary; perhaps another edit summary field can be added using this, then? (Such as adding a field called "A" comes before "chebang", could be used) < 1377574407 114145 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Software Downloads Associated with File Extension WAGAME: < 1377574407 259030 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :• FileViewPro* (free trial download) < 1377574407 259119 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :• Worms Armageddon Game Replay (Team17) < 1377574410 250407 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :slimey bastards < 1377574485 504139 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure what the first thing has to do but I suppose "WAGAME" can be considered short for "Worms Armageddon Game". Maybe FileViewPro is supporting a lot of file types? < 1377574517 414218 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FileViewPro is blatantly a piece of software that that website I pasted from is involved with < 1377574541 810774 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they just say that, for any file extension, FileViewPro can open it < 1377574563 133866 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Different site: http://www.openfileguide.com/article/How-to-open-.WAGAME-file.html < 1377574569 61647 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha meeting.WAGAME < 1377574597 686086 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had a very important meeting thru a Worms game < 1377574602 287936 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it should be listed in a separate list, saying "all file" in the result menu, and if you click that one then it says FileViewPro < 1377574653 589977 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :".WAGAME file extension is popular essentially, for its role is important in various Windows Operating Systems. And it also features in many other functions and programs on the PC. This file extension is very important in the successful performance of the taks on the PC. " < 1377574744 85344 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, starting to occur to me that I shouldn't have opened that link on my real Windows system < 1377574747 889772 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout JOIN :#esoteric < 1377574806 338088 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to add a edit summary into Hackiki now. < 1377574861 284000 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a good things about Hackiki; anyone can modify the program to make it do these kind of things! < 1377574872 604837 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any esoteric languages that are like Forth except with a queue instead of a stack? Because if not there will be one by the end of the day :P < 1377574927 565849 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me, I still need to make Braintrust 2 < 1377575519 312233 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrout: I don't know; you can check. < 1377575567 697110 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think a Forth program can be made that implements commands for treating the stack as a queue < 1377575569 377061 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/F1IMP3s.png http://i.imgur.com/INevznF.png < 1377575578 187228 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want more info on what I mean < 1377575615 479181 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do know what you mean already < 1377575658 550475 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1377575668 246981 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is probably possible to implement queue Forth in Forth. < 1377575695 323208 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess Rebol, insofar it can be considered along those lines, still acts more stackish than queueish < 1377575714 119963 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a reverse stack than is typical < 1377575757 519147 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never used Rebol, how does it work < 1377575808 287063 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The language as a whole, or the bit that's relevant to this discussion? < 1377575846 777683 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bit that's relevant to this discussion < 1377575858 282554 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the appropriate context of the language of a whole, if that's required < 1377575874 126711 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. Keep in mind that this is just a portion of the language that's, in a sense, default as a programming language: < 1377575904 873980 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you have a word, like add, it tries to take in the next two arguments. But in its place you could also have a word, which will then take its arguments first < 1377575914 102937 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, if you have words like add, you could do something like < 1377575918 571150 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :add add 1 1 add 2 2 < 1377575941 686942 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1377575956 725038 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is that any different to add(add(1,1),add(2,2)) < 1377575989 590886 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess not < 1377575999 778086 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that the arities have to be fixed. < 1377576019 361620 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this works too: add add add 2 2 1 1 < 1377576044 666087 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, arities have to be fixed < 1377576046 372088 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout PRIVMSG #esoteric :add(add(2,2),add(1,1)) or add(add(add(2,2),1),1)? < 1377576072 332228 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean, in the context of add it's all associative so it doesn't actually matter, but let's pretend addition isn't associative for a moment) < 1377576079 551053 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter (I think < 1377576224 474041 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It acts a lot like a reverse Forth, basically < 1377576230 92144 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except no actual stack < 1377576237 106077 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there is a stack, I guess < 1377576248 228976 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just not one that persists between commands < 1377576346 287234 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.re-bol.com/rebol.html#section-6.1.1 < 1377576419 13384 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^much saner than anything I can say < 1377577073 426043 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377577350 203021 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377577445 668917 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1377578500 548936 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :modprobe -r brcsmac;modprobe brcsmac ;# why does this fix my wifi? < 1377579271 77413 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck, I am an idiot < 1377579278 50058 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the two days I waited to get plane tickets, prices went up $200 < 1377579316 750820 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you ticketing to Boston? < 1377579333 505702 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, thanksgiving < 1377579341 98975 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time-ish < 1377579458 474055 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I changed the money in Uselessness RPG into euro currency instead of yen, so that it isn't the same letter. < 1377579542 528849 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. I can get jetblue here and virgin back, for about, hm < 1377579549 436250 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 328 < 1377579550 425432 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 328 < 1377579556 491045 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 328 + 169 < 1377579557 542933 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 497 < 1377579569 746998 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. that's not super, but passable, I suppose... < 1377579769 667791 :dan200!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377579783 686490 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really super not super tbh < 1377579883 319462 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, looks like friday is a bit of an anomaly; I should just go the next day < 1377579943 869603 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 234 + 169 < 1377579944 822180 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 403 < 1377582102 776804 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's probably a good idea to get travel insurance on a return trip that's not part of a roundtrip? < 1377582142 375108 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :souns reasonable < 1377582207 664153 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :airplanes are weird. I'm going on them more nowadays, though. very exciting. < 1377582322 536734 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Excess Flood < 1377582382 714809 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1377583257 770044 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The edit summary I added in Hackiki works despite not being programmed to do anything; it is just a <input name="A"> in the editor, and the editor program doesn't do anything with it. < 1377584087 190141 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There’s a Finnish news article <http://www.talouselama.fi/uutiset/onko+tassa+kaikkien+aikojen+paras+nappaimistokikka/a2200348> about an English article <http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/08/22/keyboard_shortcut_helps_recover_lost_browser_tabs.html> about a tweet <https://twitter.com/meliarobin/status/370617786260680704> which reveals that (drumroll) you can reopen closed tabs with < 1377584089 158645 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ctrl/cmd-shift-t. The title of the Finnish article translates to “Is this the best keyboard gimmick of all time?” < 1377584109 517340 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair, it is < 1377584118 491655 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :granted < 1377584190 822879 :mrout!~user@unaffiliated/mrout PART #esoteric :"ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)" < 1377584652 579679 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mailing list is an interesting feature of Hackiki too. < 1377584757 796689 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does the mailing list add a space after a comma in the title? < 1377584784 16056 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: did you do the exercises < 1377585000 761206 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Not yet. I have been studying flight dynamics. < 1377587162 922309 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377588066 965733 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377588176 118221 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no more called-out cusswords, no more wishing the back button had you covered when, aiming to click on a tab, you accidentally hit the little X on the tab’s starboard." is it so hard to click the reopen tab button that you have to start cursing? < 1377588184 602736 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did chrome not have that at some point < 1377588262 852754 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377590140 323332 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377590175 964754 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1377590896 320844 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377591028 505313 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1377592843 740157 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377592950 948925 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377594592 584392 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377596744 115073 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1377596838 310954 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377597280 913758 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377597389 442295 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1377597397 829866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'day < 1377597413 488569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1377597413 633179 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 12h 3m 35s ago: お休みなさい! < 1377597454 147987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION uses google translate. it is super effective! < 1377597481 983101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1377597498 485386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s actually surprisingly long to mean just "good night", isn't it. < 1377597516 357033 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just assumed you said "that hth" or something < 1377597534 660137 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like it's in hiragana rather than kanji? < 1377597538 291679 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help I don't know anything < 1377597576 157305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh maybe < 1377597583 961045 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not. god. I don't know < 1377597649 682072 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "お休みなさい!" < 1377597650 736208 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 7 < 1377597655 140944 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "goodnight!" < 1377597656 239377 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10 < 1377597685 201164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except google translate suggests the even longer おやすみなさい! < 1377597697 319733 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "おやすみなさい!" < 1377597698 564274 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 8 < 1377597737 862681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :long for a language with syllabic characters, Taneb < 1377597757 922854 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and sometimes more than syllabic) < 1377597926 310452 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiredness is so lousy < 1377597999 374962 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl -MEncode -Mutf8 -e 'print length(encode("UTF-8", "おやすみなさい!"));' # then again < 1377598000 763906 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :24 < 1377598072 199834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily God ettermiddag! < 1377598072 344557 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377598095 643297 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1377598202 859864 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Texture 2.0 (my Haskell based visual live programming language) is working a bit more. It has reached gabber zero – the point at which a programming language is able to support the production of live techno." < 1377598325 202578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :learning names of new subgenres of music genres i already don't listen to makes me feel so old. < 1377598360 565760 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, my brother's a glitch-hop/jazz mashup fan < 1377598377 874719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1377598388 619263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you trying to kill me with old age here < 1377598467 935930 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even sure what glitch-hop is and I'm the same age as some hip young teenagers < 1377598550 726942 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377598556 904883 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it's some kind of "hop" made out of audio resulting from video game glitches. < 1377598593 747519 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems so < 1377598632 498610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :should make a new subgenre of lindy hop just to confuse people < 1377599646 666577 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindy hiphop? < 1377599738 511518 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point would be that it's _not_ hiphop, olsner < 1377600022 483798 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1377600022 667729 :heroux_!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1377600067 657486 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377600254 250271 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huphop is made by kill -1'ing processes. < 1377602283 151659 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how has your hth treatment been going so far, twh < 1377602302 590163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very well < 1377602339 219624 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that when you spend small amounts of time breathing pure hth? < 1377602347 866296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<mrout> Are there any esoteric languages that are like Forth except with a queue instead of a stack? Because if not there will be one by the end of the day :P < 1377602370 94876 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's when you run a perl script written by me with zero testing to run inside your IRC client for some reason < 1377602382 629766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no one managed to mention any of the heap we've already got < 1377602396 93628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fueue, Qdeql, MSM ... < 1377602399 86130 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not heap, queue. < 1377602420 400624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and MSM's "successor", both from just last week or so < 1377602429 706679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(did you see my MSM queue twh) < 1377602440 747061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles innocently < 1377602464 729877 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*quine < 1377602480 359486 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :look oerjan, I can make the script more complicated or you can cooperate!! < 1377602480 726634 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i blame corruption from the visual field < 1377602492 589196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1377602514 130323 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably ) should be added to the punctuation it looks for after a forbidden word < 1377602549 241544 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need a function for how to combine if there is punctuation _both_ before and after < 1377602583 231520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think you are just discarding both at the moment, which is of course anathema to ) < 1377602588 53507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1377602602 965795 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh true. < 1377602616 109736 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, imbalancing your parentheses will encourage you to omit the word! < 1377602626 849760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish! < 1377602686 168714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also i did at least _read_ your script before installing it. i'm not completely crazy. wait, i am, just not in that way. hm i guess it's not complete if it's not in every way < 1377602732 516180 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's something like the third to fifth perl program I've ever written. and the first irssi script. < 1377602778 939822 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/fis/mcmap/blob/master/block.pl and https://github.com/fis/mcmap/blob/master/protocol.pl are the only ones I remember actually using < 1377602815 622222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mrout You might want to check out Qdeql, Sqecl, Fueue, MSM and STXTRM (the latter added in just recent days, and somewhere half between stack and queue in practice) < 1377602815 803981 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377602850 290044 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You got me wondering "why is there a hth-related Irssi script in the mcmap repository" for a moment there. < 1377602914 165185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mrout *latter 2 < 1377602914 309947 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377603365 280621 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377603479 385828 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377603765 802617 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377603858 459816 :nooodl_!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377604062 686822 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1377604069 318295 :nooodl_!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be NICK :nooodl < 1377604228 574440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<ion> ctrl/cmd-shift-t. The title of the Finnish article translates to “Is this the best keyboard gimmick of all time?” <-- seeing as i use it all the f time... < 1377606583 581661 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the two goodnights are the same, one just uses the kanji for yasumi, and the other writes it in hiragana < 1377606789 381215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1377606867 45456 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the kanji was just yasu < 1377606958 869931 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :slight experimentation splitting the phrase up seemed to indicate that it contained no parts corresponding to either "good" or "night" :P < 1377607418 607323 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it was oyasuminasai then "yasumi" kind of corresponds to "night" < 1377607598 804001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was < 1377607629 973554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :google gives "rest" for that. < 1377607657 162028 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I said "kind of" < 1377607658 860129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess it essentially translates to "Go get some rest!" < 1377607738 812106 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see it akin to something like "have a [good] rest" < 1377607800 590161 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1377609071 684781 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377609847 725445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Well Quebec would probably be gone while no one was paying attention. < 1377609964 588685 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377609973 652598 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377610725 555479 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://my.opera.com/chooseopera/blog/2009/05/29/changes-in-operas-user-agent-string-format < 1377611138 254144 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377611492 249329 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377611501 164133 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good remote morning! < 1377611511 93056 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1377611511 276078 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 3h 43m 58s ago: God ettermiddag! < 1377611529 705395 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. what's an ettermiddag? is it like a fternooner? < 1377611534 58690 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck ettermiddag < 1377611534 290381 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :middag og frem til kveld Vi skal mtes i ettermiddag. < 1377611542 805816 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ça m'aide pas. < 1377611618 752056 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan Veien å gå med den sleipe curveball, du djevel. < 1377611618 896977 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377611666 85895 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :google translate confirms it is a fternooner. < 1377611669 965644 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks google < 1377611671 810446 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, google. Thoogle. < 1377611682 908425 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fternooner < 1377611684 912957 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fternooner? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377611685 359311 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                 | < 1377611685 504346 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               o/`¯º < 1377611692 19133 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fternooners < 1377611693 832512 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fternooners? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377611694 156963 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  | < 1377611694 433401 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                º¯`\o < 1377611783 659212 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn fternooner (Danish »fternooner«, Norwegian «ttermiddag», Swedish ”ftermiddag”) is a screamingly delicious pastry. < 1377611788 422953 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377611969 742522 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oogly boogly boo < 1377612194 888231 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377612217 862809 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :caraðello. < 1377612231 672147 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: no hello for you, you boogler. < 1377612321 621851 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377612442 320507 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377612464 539338 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :'morning, #esoteric < 1377612891 560325 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1377614506 388821 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu NICK :DeadZuu < 1377614541 623207 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sweeps the cadavers under the rug < 1377614592 231474 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Are they that exquisite that you have to hide them? < 1377614595 522113 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't be shy < 1377614671 809334 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like inedible cadavers. < 1377614699 164825 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Understandable < 1377614929 785673 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell question: is it possible to create your own deriving? < 1377615137 569306 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but you can do similar things < 1377615299 275698 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it involve TH? < 1377615306 296815 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not necessarily < 1377615316 506257 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latest thing is "GHC generics" (not the same as "SYB generics" and stuff) < 1377615317 244814 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! I can go another day without learning TH! < 1377615324 262443 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do "data Foo = ... deriving (Generic) < 1377615328 240791 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :; instance MyClass" < 1377615333 94738 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Foo. I can't type today < 1377615355 536733 :DeadZuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu NICK :Zuu < 1377615383 809084 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: can you unrug Zuu for me please? I'm busy learning what (Generic) is. < 1377615409 93958 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of horrific to use < 1377615418 718369 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut?! < 1377615433 37287 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. and there I hoped it would be easier to understand than that sybbing stuff. < 1377615439 604772 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should learn Haskell, I guess =P < 1377615508 872446 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Zuu, question for you < 1377615518 472864 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: je te vois venir. < 1377615529 756161 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it Time To Tell The Truth Tuesday where you live? < 1377615533 227726 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: what question? < 1377615540 964328 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: oh. a new one, eh? < 1377615588 488536 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: imho, it is alwyas time to tell the truth where i live, and everywhere i dont live, unless the truth has no purpose other than making yourself happy. < 1377615605 406355 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zuu: I see. Thank you ^^ < 1377615620 98528 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I had recognized where I knew your name from, but it seems it might just be a coincidence =P < 1377615643 291093 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I dont quite recognize yours :P < 1377615663 512412 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zuu: I don't use the same nick over there either =P < 1377615925 239129 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, let's say I want to learn Haskell < 1377615932 447227 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having heard about it for so long < 1377615943 415471 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would be a good starting point? < 1377616084 392438 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lyah. < 1377616097 573145 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: http://learnyouahaskell.com/ < 1377616109 295215 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1377616118 810768 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sentence... hurts =P < 1377616128 373405 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::☺) < 1377616133 502206 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks ^^ < 1377616136 575279 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll look into that < 1377616166 317986 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you're done reading it a few times forwards and backwards, keep the Typeclassopedia as a reference, and then you're gold. < 1377616177 697981 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's Au-some < 1377617211 978045 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377617295 419341 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377618589 222790 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377619540 763672 :hypha!~hypha@93.158.64.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377620913 597635 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1377621250 28285 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1377621521 283745 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1377621596 258399 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377622475 342444 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1377622913 549611 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377623380 871164 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: so, how's the great good learning going on? ☻ < 1377623394 798334 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Working atm =P < 1377623401 969535 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So not really going on at all, really < 1377623435 222855 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377623452 40476 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, what are your lunch options in Lachine? can you go out? cafétéria? do you have to bring your own lunches? < 1377623523 612739 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lachine? is that that big country in Lasie? < 1377623573 247147 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's our local version of china. Local China → L-Chine → Lachine. < 1377623608 646651 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, you can see Lachine as a kind of zerg nexus, as it's near the airport. < 1377623631 942403 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds kind of Final Fantasyish. < 1377623653 777268 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, fal'Cie and all that. < 1377623659 801203 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck fal'cie < 1377623660 118355 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fal'Cie (ա Farushi) [flsi] are supernatural beings in Final Fantasy XIII. < 1377623681 492667 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? roujo < 1377623683 134877 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo is still a Java heretic. His claim to Canadianness is soon to be verified by boily, treaties be damned. A cocktail and destruction of the Universe are scheduled at 19h00. < 1377623685 297826 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what telephone number "+55555" is? < 1377623690 738504 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also l'Cie. < 1377623716 965446 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: probably somewhere in Brasil. < 1377623736 289850 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I work in Dorval, really. There are lunch options, but I just bring my lunch,. < 1377623786 982460 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Roujo is a Java heretic leaning on ungrammatical Haskell. His claim to Canadianness is marred by an unholy portal to China. The treaties suffer, so the cocktail will be postponed. < 1377623791 626250 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377623836 62612 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh =P < 1377623844 276090 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could also be some sort of placeholdery kind of number, by way of comparison with the fictional 555 US area code. < 1377623885 701124 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: 55 - Santa Maria / Uruguaiana / Cruz Alta (western Rio Grande do Sul) < 1377623926 820618 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, that only amounts to four fives. the last one is probably part of a local xchange. < 1377623947 31579 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Or possibly it's not a real number at all. Not everything that shows as the caller number is always true. < 1377623983 505537 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe in aliens, 555 numbers, and Canada! < 1377624028 365017 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know how I would run this or what language this is written in? < 1377624032 579553 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 3 3 3***1_+,10 3 3**7+,100 16 2_++,3__3__3_3_***19+16+,4_4_*2*,10$*1+10$*4$*1_++10$*1+$$3+$5-10_10_*23+10_6_*2_+7$*,,,,,,,,, < 1377624046 736324 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks like a stack-based language < 1377624049 46886 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably something stack-ba... < 1377624054 97682 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop pre-empting people like that! < 1377624059 280334 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I figured it out, although haven't tried it < 1377624060 550607 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bad < 1377624087 591803 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure it's not a.... brainfuck derivative < 1377624093 109708 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I vaguely recall something where _ was subtraction. < 1377624103 633680 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: there are stack-based brainfuck derivative! < 1377624105 932143 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked at a lot of them and I couldn't find anything that included numbers < 1377624106 799409 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Kind of like dc, where - is subtraction and therefore you use _ as the sign for negative numbers.) < 1377624111 585378 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thedeco: so in order to run it you'd need a stack < 1377624117 35493 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to figure out what the operators do < 1377624133 755939 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can guess that * does a multiplication and + an addition < 1377624137 837149 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for the others eeeeeeeh < 1377624144 427445 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also sort-of guess that _ would be subtraction. < 1377624159 46181 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about spaces? < 1377624160 16487 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it asciified APL? J? < 1377624170 137090 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spaces are just separators imho < 1377624173 759354 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe not subtraction, after looking at that sequence. < 1377624182 810684 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spaces are most likely separating numbers, yes. < 1377624198 935450 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that you don't get confused between 3333 as three thousand three hundred thirty-three and 3 3 3 3 as three three three three < 1377624201 591189 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could make an educated guess that , has to do with printing output. < 1377624217 183707 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I think , is EMIT < 1377624221 583739 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe 3333 is a phone number? < 1377624235 782874 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I know what it is. I am testing my hypothesis now. < 1377624237 280238 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :3*3*3*3 == 81, which is right there in the printable-ASCII range. < 1377624243 899307 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what we'd need? a search-engine for esolangs based on instructions < 1377624295 55005 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: that's some pretty good idea you got there. < 1377624322 430703 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :given the instructions here are the languages that use them < 1377624327 81381 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be awesome < 1377624329 6014 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could get fizzie to ML the fungot out of that DB, and if someone tries something original that has no hit, then we've got ourselves a shiny new esolang! < 1377624329 490908 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: marina. the name of agincourt. yet sit and see, minding true things, by what you were, and as oft is dumbe, where dust, and be a happy mother by the deed < 1377624353 272454 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 10 3 3**7+, is clearly 'a'. < 1377624353 567971 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, if one submits something that suspiciously looks like a bf derivative, then *WHACK* IP ban. < 1377624355 233083 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay pizza's waiting for me < 1377624375 712800 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that system could help me solve the next challenge which is >99*1-,25*:*3-,25*:*44*+2-,25*:*44*+,84*,96*1-,97*5-,25*:*1+,25*:*25*+,v @,*52,+*55*:*52,**52*52< < 1377624395 737488 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: im a noob here why? < 1377624410 109791 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks like improperly wrapped befunge < 1377624441 749996 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It prints "Part 5:end}" if wrapped correctly < 1377624442 462852 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, presumably the < on the right end should go under the v. < 1377624468 999266 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377624510 708299 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: that was correct! < 1377624514 656870 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thedeco: brainfsck derivatives are trite, unoriginal, background noise and unwanted. there's a long history of various regulars battling the Hordes of Poor Brainfsck Rewrites. < 1377624530 605360 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good to know rgr that < 1377624544 559376 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they all are < 1377624554 367738 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more that it's too easy to create uninteresting bf derivatives < 1377624556 814954 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, ook is unique imho hth. < 1377624556 959497 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lots of people do < 1377624560 391845 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :down to the last part which is the 3 3 3 3 one < 1377624561 612287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you create an interesting one, more power to ya < 1377624583 291404 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the parts was ook lol < 1377624626 656575 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it starts with "Pa", then. < 1377624637 946216 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case _ is probably "negate top value". < 1377624650 747485 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be Part 1: then followed by something < 1377624673 100984 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Given that 3*3*3*3-1 is 80 which is 'P'; and 10*3*3+7 is 97 which is 'a'.) < 1377624711 203753 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377624712 104454 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :deriving the language from an example program and output is a fun game < 1377624728 87317 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that 4_4_*2*, is an obvious space ((-4)*(-4)*2 = 32); so you just need to guess a meaning for $. < 1377624775 51915 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there's the same number of $s than ,s? Perhaps it's a dup. < 1377624819 315218 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to be dup, yes < 1377624839 549557 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it's "Part 1:{cheese" (without a line break following) < 1377624852 150604 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOOOOOT < 1377624854 491928 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A few simple replacements make it befunge) < 1377624862 55646 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which is how I ran it) < 1377624865 765229 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if the point of such a challenge is not to do it yourself < 1377624882 325824 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377624883 874840 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still missing the name of the language, though. (Unless it's a custom one.) < 1377624911 715101 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I promise i used the google machine before I asked others < 1377624922 951230 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, isn't that just FALSE? < 1377624937 258897 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has _ for negation and $ for dup. < 1377624950 415381 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And , for "write a character".) < 1377624975 430989 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and while it is still time... < 1377624977 507187 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, I'm kind of ashamed for not recognizing FALSE. < 1377624979 156257 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome thedeco < 1377624982 42166 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09thed10eco: 08W04elco04me07 to 06the international hub 10for 14esoteric 04prog08rammin14g04 lan05guage de02sign and deployment05! For14 more informatio11n03, che04ck out our wiki: 06http:/14/04e05solangs.org/wiki/M12ain_Page. (Fo07r07 the other kin04d of esoterica, t02ry #esoteric on irc.da03l.04net.) < 1377625006 361825 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need a seminary to get us back on track with esolanging and on-töpic discussions. < 1377625008 51999 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you boily < 1377625028 971445 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did think $ is DUP but maybe I did something wrong when converting to Forth < 1377625107 194316 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a good FALSE interpreter, PortableFalse says my compilers (gcc/clang/tcc) suck < 1377625165 14041 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I think you misunderstand what the topic here is < 1377625175 87152 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you think it's anything other than Hexham, you're wrong < 1377625183 634551 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, I fixed it < 1377625230 71563 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: yes, but we didn't recognized one of the Great Esolang Classics! < 1377625233 784748 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ed/e/ < 1377625248 126246 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what makes you think this channel is about esolangs < 1377625260 556366 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca TOPIC #esoteric :this channel is about Hexham < 1377625276 779669 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: oh, thanks. I got confused there, with the /topic. < 1377625298 571443 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yeah it happens < 1377625303 939118 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell tswett are you now properly undereffed? < 1377625304 83914 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377625318 783285 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: so, how's life for you west of the border? < 1377625332 154841 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(can someone reset the topic? I don't have the old one handy >_>) < 1377625347 541259 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: boring < 1377625353 812483 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the week before the week before school < 1377625358 331895 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net TOPIC #esoteric :tswett needs noderefs | The welcomes of doom | 22nd IOCCC is open: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | jsvine is doing an esolang survey! │ Roujo < 1377625360 816242 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : :: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q/viewform | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric | <AnotherTest> fizzie: true, it needs to be made more complex < 1377625365 255312 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aurgh. < 1377625366 496458 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1377625379 182365 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377625380 541852 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone competent (meaning absolutely not me) change the /topic, please? < 1377625389 546719 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is iOCCC still ongoing? < 1377625391 861601 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the survey? < 1377625394 407465 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*I < 1377625397 952902 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :those should stay in < 1377625448 888536 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell jsvine SUUUUUURVEEEEEEEEEY..... (sonata in the key of Zombie♯ minor) < 1377625449 72172 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377625465 878423 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca TOPIC #esoteric :Hexham discussion channel | 22nd IOCCC: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.tex | esolang survey! http://goo.gl/UuOxzy | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1377625482 545227 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: oh, school. that thing I don't have since 2011. MWAH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH! < 1377625489 78055 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the joke is on you! < 1377625499 255735 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh, I still have school-related nightmares. < 1377625523 609975 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I went through an engineering degree, tyvm. < 1377625535 98112 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oh < 1377625537 351219 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one of the worse decisions in my life.) < 1377625541 649971 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the joke is really on you then < 1377625555 564994 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You wrote a message to me but when I read it, you aren't on so I can't reply. < 1377625578 605383 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have just finished school and shall be going on to big school soon < 1377625585 831642 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no URL shorteners please < 1377625601 562913 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or broken links :p < 1377625610 771093 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it is plausible that the IOCCC would offer their rules in TeX format. < 1377625660 863224 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Was it about a custom role playing system or something like that? Do you have details? < 1377625663 476543 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: well, the University years themselves were great, but the paper at the end isn't worth much. < 1377625684 664366 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi TOPIC #esoteric :Hexham discussion channel | 22nd IOCCC: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1377625687 425997 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I wrote a message about that? I have some very vague memories about discussing this subject with you. < 1377625690 133980 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what are you doing now? < 1377625698 366256 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why no url shorteners? < 1377625708 835250 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I don't really remember either, but you can check the channel logs; the message should be there. < 1377625720 132778 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: consulto-development with FOSS ☺ < 1377625726 750108 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1377625734 211472 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: nah. I'm too lazy today. < 1377625748 771740 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: the job is very nice, and it's surrounded by Montréal. < 1377625754 155650 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: obscures link destination, allows unwarranted tracking < 1377625790 95758 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I like http://www.shadyurl.com/ < 1377625843 821015 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: This is the copy of the message: boily said 5h 35m 11s ago: our DM's been working for some time now on a custom system that we haven't tested yet. < 1377625887 460198 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh, thanks! < 1377625898 457491 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have also been working on a custom (incomplete and untested) role playing system. Some of the details can be described by differences from 3.5e. CR and EL are eliminiated. LA is retained in a slightly different form called "pseudolevels". < 1377625904 305985 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Do you have details? < 1377625951 905857 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: not yet. he's been very secretive about it, except some interesting character mechanics (like a dragon-hybrid that uses his money to gain buffs) < 1377625977 85419 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: surrounded by montreal is a definite plus < 1377625985 650699 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unlike surrounded by toronto, which is nearly a dealbreaker for me) < 1377625990 176747 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone correct the grammar of this sentence: "I've ended up going to bring a couple of friends along." < 1377625995 536728 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: another friend in another group's been working on his own apple-pie-from-scratch system for about ~10 years. < 1377625997 969976 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've ran out of grammar lira < 1377626003 719675 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the grammar is correct < 1377626013 675060 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, it doesn't feel it < 1377626016 986561 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: supposedly you can get nice korean food in TO. do you confirm? < 1377626028 889689 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I can neither confirm nor deny < 1377626032 318043 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I am also working on a system, from scratch although with some ideas based on 3.5e, Magic: the Gathering, category theory, and other things. < 1377626038 256297 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: as a certified Francophone, the grammar is correct. < 1377626043 397958 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I will take no further questions on the matter < 1377626049 615857 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: so you're a politician, eh? < 1377626064 767909 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: category... theory... in an RPG??? < 1377626070 178230 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: aspiring to be Harper's sucessor < 1377626076 395366 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: possibly you want it to means something different that what it says. But the grammar is correct < 1377626082 333654 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: as PET said, just watch me? < 1377626089 576452 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yes, the magical system involves many mathematical things. < 1377626104 856061 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are doomed. DOOOOOOMED, I SAY! < 1377626109 652161 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I now want to add a clause "who aren't in the group", whose antecedent is "friends" < 1377626113 345653 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where would I put it < 1377626123 838524 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and actually, yes, I am a student politician. I try not to evade questions, though :) < 1377626125 101367 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In mine, PCs and NPCs are treated equivalently. To make a player character look up what kind of creature you want your character to be, look up the number of pseudolevels (there will always be a number, unlike D&D), select your classes and how many levels you want in each, skills, feats, back story, etc < 1377626141 758103 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So mine hasn't any "player races" section. < 1377626148 12290 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I just tack it to the end? < 1377626152 226441 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: are you badlingual in both official languages? < 1377626159 694065 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I've ended up going to bring a couple of friends along, who aren't in the group." < 1377626165 808549 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so it's gurpsian, too. < 1377626179 769776 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm far from fluent French, but I can pass < 1377626194 805929 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I don't know what that means. What similarities and differences do the ones you know of having? < 1377626197 492919 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by "pass", I mean "speak French at a fancy restaurant in Montreal without the waiter ever switching to English" < 1377626213 443463 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: my accent is pretty good, though, unlike PMSH < 1377626337 528898 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm not sure if that qualifies as "badlingual" < 1377626405 391870 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like D&D 4e. However, it is kind of a coincidence that my system eliminated many things in 4e and kept many things that 4e eliminated; this was before 4e was announced. < 1377626440 377291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My system is a bit less combat oriented; the "Fighter" class is the only one meant for combat and the other classes do other things. < 1377626513 917251 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck pmsh < 1377626514 311003 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377626536 355757 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: montreal waiters are too gentle < 1377626538 37304 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I was refering to our Dear Leader, Jean Chrétien :D < 1377626579 627819 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What are your opinions of these things so far? < 1377626583 86787 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I ordered in Japanese at a Mtl restaurant once. it worked. < 1377626584 6999 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: on the other hand, they're probably less gentle than french waiters. french waiters don't speak english, so they're guaranteed not to switch languages < 1377626619 217042 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sounds very tempting and intriguing. the pc/npc non-split is something that isn't spread enough around systems, imo. < 1377626641 254835 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I agree. < 1377626695 266308 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: French waiters are scarce around the city. almost all of our waiters (fmvo almost all) are bilingual. < 1377626702 845343 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fmvo: for a mathematician's value of) < 1377626721 658064 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.5e has almost PC/NPC equivalence; I have made some variations to 3.5e, one of which improves the equivalence. However, they still use different formats. My system uses the same format too; all the kind of creatures in the game are in one area, and all have pseudolevels rather than using CR. < 1377626739 246309 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no I meant a french waiter in france < 1377626743 839686 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: too gentle in what sense? < 1377626754 485138 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the not switching to your language sense < 1377626766 188700 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. That's not really my experience < 1377626779 376780 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :first bar I've stopped in in germany, I order in german, they waiter answers in english < 1377626797 343786 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he overheard me talking with my friends in french, so when I continue in english HE SWITCHES TO FRENCH < 1377626804 225308 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I felt so insulted < 1377626804 731001 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :God dammit, Windows 7's built in backup tool is useless. It gives random crappy error messages < 1377626808 260337 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1377626825 285058 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1377626827 630787 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any suggestions for full disk backups for windows 7 that works? < 1377626830 434631 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incremental too < 1377626831 960490 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, all experience points in my system are ad hoc, with the exception of spells and class features that cost experience points. < 1377626835 916942 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So no, dd won't work < 1377626837 969269 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: he didn't recognize your lovely Québecois accent, clearly < 1377626850 326918 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: spells and class features that cost xp are dumb hth < 1377626851 11053 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm french from france < 1377626854 530370 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: oh < 1377626857 297914 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lololol < 1377626860 21653 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :owned < 1377626873 92544 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Learning additional spells beyond the ones automatically earned at level up costs experience points.) < 1377626886 961074 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I don't really agree; I think it can be good idea. < 1377626975 128058 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: bacula! < 1377626981 882703 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, On windows? < 1377626999 504738 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes. that was one of my internship projects. it works just fine! < 1377627023 539798 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, also it would all need to work from that computer, be when I press a button rather than automated (due to dual booting) and to an external USB HDD < 1377627031 755202 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I thought it cost money for windows? < 1377627038 584631 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of my gloriousest windows moments: destroying everything I can think of, and see if the backup can restore it. < 1377627050 463138 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or that is what I think I saw the list on wikipedia say when I read it < 1377627066 777133 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you can launch manual backups, external USB HDD is a nonissue, it's free. < 1377627075 952034 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :For windows too? Huh < 1377627085 222204 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, it uses shadow copy on windows? < 1377627085 366769 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. I testify that I did it. < 1377627088 744407 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does. < 1377627096 258503 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, because shadow copy is the part that is borking < 1377627109 594967 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that is no good then < 1377627120 662035 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1377627127 239698 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how do you backup open files, then? < 1377627146 503340 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/testify/attest/ < 1377627150 757772 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid verbs. < 1377627152 613244 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, good question, well I guess shadow copy might work if another program calls it that isn't super-broken < 1377627177 703593 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bacula is strangely not borken. it takes some time to configure properly, but when it's up, it's up. < 1377627190 145448 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, Anyway, what about restore? Can it restore to a completely new disk and not need to reactivate windows? Like a dd clone < 1377627192 368459 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe looking at my D&D game recording might also give you some kind of idea what kind of features I like in the game. < 1377627243 457933 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, Hm, so I need to setup many daemons it seems? All can run on the windows computer? < 1377627243 939403 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it can. there may be a little bit of manual involvement if you're working on a particularly screwed up install (like doing partial regbase restores), but otherwise you just have to wait. < 1377627253 449980 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :regbase? < 1377627267 445789 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :base de registre? what's it called in English again? < 1377627270 822107 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I mean total disk failure scenario where you have to buy a new disk < 1377627282 39923 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. no worries, then. < 1377627335 75420 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh the website for bacula claims it is *not* free for windows < 1377627339 765702 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut??? < 1377627348 641089 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bacula.org/en/?page=winbin < 1377627351 548316 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read that < 1377627356 437100 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thedeco: so do you have any other questions like that one? < 1377627373 940394 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: oh. that changed since 2008. < 1377627384 207940 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, well then, any free suggestion? < 1377627439 289217 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: seeing that I have trouble remembering what happened yesterday, delving to the Depths of Five Years Ago is going to be hard. < 1377627449 89872 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1377627463 691772 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can backup from a linux CD, well... < 1377627486 890465 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I can easily back up from Linux, but I want incremental backups, not full blown dd images with no history < 1377627487 984627 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, je sèche. I kinda lost touch with the backup scene. < 1377627493 79568 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use rdiff-backup on Linux < 1377627526 31524 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I think the only reliable sources for that cost money. or, you could also compile bacula on windows, if you feel masöchistic enough. < 1377627540 260425 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh < 1377627543 972130 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh indeed. < 1377627558 596517 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also retain the Profession skills, something which 4e eliminates. However, I also added tactical skills. I retained skill ranks and eliminated class/cross-class skills. You learn skill regardless of your class, although different classes have different number of skill points to spend. < 1377627559 627246 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have VS2010 Ultimate around though < 1377627620 274366 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: skills are a prerequisite. the cleanest system I have ever seen comes from Fudge, but sadly I never had the chance to play it. < 1377627643 350836 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs at Vorpal. “anything goes!” < 1377627646 534842 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, Time Machine, that is backup done right < 1377627648 838019 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have one class "Expert" which has a highest number of skill points but not other features. < 1377627652 886290 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wish it wasn't apple only < 1377627665 250458 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: with a shiny nas. simple, efficient, effortless. < 1377627671 822034 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other two classes are "Divine" and "Arcane". < 1377627674 787136 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, time machine + nas? Hm < 1377627695 827739 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, the issue with a NAS is what happens if there is a lightning strike. Likely it will knock out any connected electronics < 1377627702 316767 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including the NAS < 1377627739 26393 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: use your own power grid? harness the lightning for your arcane invocations? I dunno. lightning strikes all, and makes no difference. < 1377627754 759596 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, it ignores off site backups :P < 1377627770 211903 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, have a NAS on another continent :P < 1377627778 526114 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, and I have ADSL... < 1377627788 270544 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't be worse than tape backup. < 1377627792 929236 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possible business plan: data storage on the moon? < 1377627808 975545 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, it would survive a major meteor impact certainly < 1377627833 624358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Getting at it after the collapse of civilization here might be an issue. < 1377627847 511622 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1377627869 714619 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares about civilization? you have backups! < 1377627884 111512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1377627910 514657 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I assume Time Machine keeps some sort of index over changed files all the time since it is so darn fast at doing a backup < 1377628010 927503 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One feature of my system is that a high level arcane caster who wants to have a lot of options will need to have a lot of strength, unless they spend most of their feats on mastering a lot of spells, or store their books at home and take the ones they need, or get someone else to carry their books for them, or whatever. < 1377628025 128678 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1377628051 425705 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: as long as you maintain CCIH, everything is good. < 1377628060 199967 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Character Creation Induced Headaches) < 1377628149 985484 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are character creation induced headaches? Can you give some example please? < 1377628232 437191 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“should I put that point here, or there? or ditch that skill, hope to acquire it later during the campaign? but then if I don't have enough of that, the RP will get *weird*. and the DM's being a %#*%$ lately, so no chance of getting that around... AAAAAAAURGH!” < 1377628237 947986 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something similar. < 1377628301 804874 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would have such things, I suppose. < 1377628340 260863 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yé! ☺ < 1377628400 276972 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can see my D&D games stuff (and possibly other stuff I wrote) for my kind of style. Spells needing to be used in creatively newly made up combinations is part of my style. < 1377628416 447283 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monster characters is, too. < 1377628465 681664 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using mundane techniques to defect magical ones can also help sometimes, to retain your spell slots/power points, so that they can be used later on, or just to not use magic too much in general. < 1377628574 521922 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as you can do stupid actions with awesome side-effects, I'm in. < 1377628609 202361 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you can, that is part of idea of my system; spells are used for their side-effects! < 1377628634 896799 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have used spells for the sole reason that they expire. < 1377628648 497253 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or because of their material components. < 1377628681 653144 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or because of the limitation on the kind of targets it can target. < 1377628729 785136 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Pokemon card, I have once played an evolution card for the sole purpose of increasing its retreat cost. < 1377628831 496571 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Did you see my D&D game recordings? If you want to be notified of updates, subscribe to messages starting with "`danddreclist" or make the program notify you. < 1377628864 367645 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist < 1377628865 898023 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist: shachaf nooodl < 1377628875 273321 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. how do I add myself? < 1377628888 498790 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask someone else about HackEgo if you want to add your name to the response. < 1377628892 985231 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think I did see them. < 1377628912 156242 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: GREGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR! can you dand me please? :D < 1377628928 71829 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't actually know how, myself. However, better is subscribing to messages starting with "`danddreclist", probably) < 1377628951 792950 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: When it is updated, I am always the sender and the session number will be added after "`danddreclist") < 1377628956 96515 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me that last Saturday I shouted the loudest «KAYAK» I ever heard, in front of about a hundred people. that was nice. < 1377628969 616476 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/danddreclist < 1377628970 706833 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -n "$(basename "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; tail -n+2 "$0" | xargs; exit \ shachaf \ nooodl < 1377628988 693475 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess this settles the matter. < 1377629002 306130 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo boily >> bin/danddreclist < 1377629006 226878 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377629008 892185 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1377629013 640372 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist < 1377629015 44144 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist: shachaf nooodl boily < 1377629022 128197 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? danddreclist < 1377629022 742824 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(weechat probably can subscribe and/or whatever to messages, but I can't be arsed to figure out how.) < 1377629024 80387 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex (the precompiled .dvi is also available) < 1377629035 706799 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! I have that one. < 1377629054 959585 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: thooodl. < 1377629061 395513 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: OK. The latest session is 40, though. < 1377629151 553597 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and while you're there, care to provide your body weigh, please? < 1377629236 550508 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :me or zzo38? < 1377629239 711538 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i bin/danddreclist 's|exit|echo http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex; exit|' < 1377629241 40692 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: can't find label for jump to `in/danddreclist' < 1377629257 492442 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: I already have yours. < 1377629258 421703 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh what did i even expect < 1377629278 928009 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's|exit|echo http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex; exit|' < bin/danddreclist < 1377629280 459569 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: no input files < 1377629293 13787 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's|exit|echo http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex; exit|' bin/danddreclist < 1377629297 157890 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377629302 622934 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist < 1377629304 256283 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1377629307 735545 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1377629316 665281 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 NICK :augur < 1377629474 676122 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1377629475 14745 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Dispersing" to "Enveloping" < 1377629484 835032 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1377629485 272085 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 271800Z VRB02KT 12SM OVC025 24/20 A2989 RMK SC8 SLP123 DENSITY ALT 1200FT < 1377629492 623657 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~dice 20 < 1377629492 807908 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16 --- Sum = 16 < 1377629518 402640 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to my tools, I won't need any raincoat tonight. < 1377629748 371559 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't bring the raincoat it will rain < 1377629930 821778 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even if you do bring, it might rain, but it might not. < 1377630323 796331 :thedeco!~thedeco@beitshlomo.com PART :#esoteric < 1377630327 453116 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377630487 996166 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is some BR starting at 10pm, with probabilities of FG at 2am, but no rain until at least 3pm tomorrow. < 1377630551 971526 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1377630554 936801 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYVR < 1377630555 385636 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYVR 271900Z 13012KT 20SM SCT030 OVC150 21/14 A2992 RMK CU4AC4 SLP130 DENSITY ALT 700FT < 1377630602 127542 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377630605 657922 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does BR stand for? is it a french abbreviation or something < 1377630639 450428 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: there are a bunch of arbitrary French abbreviations in metars. < 1377630673 737155 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BR stands for «brume» (Swedish dimma). < 1377630693 878262 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :swedish? < 1377630733 45518 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :swedish. < 1377630738 32053 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :brume is not Swedish for dimma, 'dimma' is < 1377630752 455765 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. < 1377630768 515636 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :väl, too. < 1377630797 211240 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377630843 642729 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :From Old French, from Latin brūma (“winter”). Apparently. < 1377630884 301809 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck brume < 1377630884 664982 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brume definition: mist, fog. < 1377631084 491888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1377631084 636454 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 5h 24m 25s ago: Veien å gå med den sleipe curveball, du djevel. < 1377631098 295344 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. that. heh :D < 1377631132 955134 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's usually more idiomatic with "din djevel", also "den sleipe curveball" sounds like a hybrid with danish < 1377631156 996103 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not my problem. blame the google for that. < 1377631174 919780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and "Veien å gå" does _not_ translate "Way to go". < 1377631193 540925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's way too literal < 1377631242 687962 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :vendémiaire, brumaire, frimaire, nivôse, pluviôse, ventôse, germinal, floréal, prairial, messidor, thermidor, fructidor < 1377631257 833343 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a palindrome? < 1377631260 37030 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1377631272 299358 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :m'a dire comme on dit, it's been a while. < 1377631280 674580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think those are the french revolutionary months < 1377631284 134875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1377631284 359655 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why the revolutionary feelings today? < 1377631301 877288 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh just "brume" < 1377631354 364242 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, germinal is one of the greatest French novels. < 1377631357 853332 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people die in it. < 1377631367 734820 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377631369 3649 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :many novels have that feature < 1377631378 395355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the last novel you read where nobody dies? < 1377631386 370930 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that doesn't make it good or bad < 1377631409 235266 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there are some stories where nobody dies < 1377631447 436085 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: eeeeeeh......... I'm sure I have one somewhere........ < 1377631577 475437 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read "The Saxonbury Printout" a few weeks ago. No-one dies, but it's about a computer possessed by a ghost. Does that count? < 1377631714 788413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was pre-died < 1377631771 928976 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the same character dies multiple times? does that cancel out death? < 1377631782 470587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i think it counts < 1377631986 707455 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the Dungeons&Dragons game, now it is recorded to make up like a story novel book, people die a lot, mainly because they get in everyone's way and do bad things a lot. I want to figure out exactly how common, so I will make a list, only including people killed directly or indirectly by player characters. < 1377632056 263061 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can also list who isn't killed, just because I want to make up a list. < 1377632270 522666 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I have a friend who created his own role playing system. I will be playing that tomorrow evening < 1377632278 27856 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: What system is that? < 1377632292 693781 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, his own as I said < 1377632305 463200 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know any details? < 1377632331 32315 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I have not studied it in detail yet, though I have a draft for the manual (in Swedish) < 1377632392 83452 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly studied the setting which he created (post-apocalyptic, after ice age of some unknown/mysterious origin, set in central Europe) < 1377632465 475381 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1377632471 875472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<Roujo> I should learn Haskell, I guess =P <-- yeah you won't fit in properly here otherwise. < 1377632513 298273 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have any details about the setting, then? < 1377632516 531076 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, from what I saw it was not D&D-style at all. Classless system for example. Not using hitpoints, but wound levels and such < 1377632574 471541 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I gave you some overview above, I need to sleep now and don't have time to translate it all < 1377632621 202106 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<Roujo> That sentence... hurts =P <-- i think it's inspired by Borat or something? < 1377632641 334109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: have any player characters been killed? < 1377632649 899422 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wasn't it a zoolander reference? < 1377632667 265885 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how many litres of blood splattered yet? < 1377632677 60124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what's zoolander? < 1377632685 773884 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the sentence? < 1377632686 588870 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I haven't measured that. < 1377632699 627336 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"More than 1000 different errors detected. I'm not reporting any more. Final error counts will be inaccurate. Go fix your program!" < 1377632703 417805 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: a comedy with ben stiller. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoolander < 1377632733 569568 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in some cases there is no blood splattered, for example if someone drowns or whatever. < 1377632757 326561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well i don't know if "learn you * for great good" showed up there. < 1377632760 696343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :He seized power in a bloodless coup...all stranglings < 1377632789 52149 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring. I like myself some sharks. they have standing. they have class. they have teeth. < 1377632805 292166 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shark has personality < 1377632807 939390 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :personality goes a long way < 1377632811 45660 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, valgrind? < 1377632814 72872 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yep < 1377632822 402165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well googling "for great good" gives mostly haskell hits, although maybe it's just google knowing what i read. < 1377632841 109612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: No player characters have been killed (yet). < 1377632849 706735 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, iirc I got that when I tried to run it on a program using python as an embedded scripting language < 1377632903 76126 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1377632906 514366 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night Vorpal < 1377632985 445956 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I play carefully so that I don't get killed unless it is really necessary. < 1377633013 607581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<boily> that's our local version of china. Local China → L-Chine → Lachine. <-- huh it apparently _is_ named for china, although for ridiculous reasons < 1377633047 766116 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: bonne nuit! < 1377633087 608909 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and there I was pulling a neighbourhood out of my fungotial regions... tmyk... < 1377633088 113609 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: banq. looke to that anon, embrace thy brother there, reioyce with him. and now lord protector, so it be wholesome food. < 1377633092 882382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<olsner> what was the sentence? <-- well _i_ thought he was referring to "learn you a haskell for great good" < 1377633157 684500 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I once found myself naked in the grass with an arm missing in a game of paranoia. < 1377633169 931412 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck banq < 1377633170 215974 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377633221 901276 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, "for great good" sounds like some kind of engrish < 1377633239 997136 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :For great justice. < 1377633241 666358 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Did you fix the arm? < 1377633284 941360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess he got the arm fixed and then got terminated for failing to pay for the operation < 1377633308 274549 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that. I found out that the arm was deeply embedded in a wall... < 1377633338 510009 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your arm was a wall banger < 1377633351 246628 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.........................................oerjan............... < 1377633460 897876 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's pacman when you need him? < 1377633501 367227 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: ᗧ • • • < 1377633507 68761 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woooo < 1377633556 325892 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377633615 615215 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this Dungeons&Dragons game we have to beat a demon and they moved to another castle and we found them again, but we can't beat them right away just like that, like how in chess you cannot play 1. Kxe8# on your first turn and win. < 1377633643 320844 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you have a shōgi analogue for that? < 1377633661 80160 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It is obvious I suppose. < 1377633707 553349 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck Kxe8# < 1377633707 914393 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377633712 421819 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELP. < 1377633723 694620 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know chess notation? < 1377633748 736412 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kxe8# is probably possible but certainly not as the first move in the game! < 1377633800 40461 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it means you win, I assume it either captures the king or produces check mate? < 1377633807 107923 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know chess notation, I only learned the shōgi one. < 1377633848 550850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :capturing the king is not allowed. < 1377633862 820152 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :On meth it is < 1377633876 174390 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, I just realized that, that's pretty weird really < 1377633888 601265 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always thought the objective of chess was to capture the king < 1377633902 9150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or to be precise, if you're in a situation where it seems like you could, someone did an illegal move or lost already. < 1377633970 325049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if you have no move that doesn't leave your king in check, the game is over. < 1377633993 710544 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The # means checkmate. < 1377634027 648798 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooooooh. < 1377634032 830733 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The + means check, mate < 1377634103 230552 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: my assumption is back in the day when chess was invented, the idea of killing monarchs was so heavily frowned upon that it was not considered civilized even in a game. < 1377634120 411945 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... silly old people < 1377634129 673824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so they ended the game one move earlier. < 1377634152 396780 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Two moves, really < 1377634174 286561 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not opposed to sampling a good monarch steak... < 1377634195 164839 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :in go they have some similar thing where it's considered rude to keep playing when it should be obvious who will win < 1377634253 336682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well google shows up several monarch steak houses, so you go ahead < 1377634264 770112 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :meth chess? < 1377634266 8916 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT BUS TIME < 1377634287 545774 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: today you go home by not bus? < 1377634297 372634 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yup. My not bus is parked outside < 1377634301 151280 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cya ^^ < 1377634305 360527 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oï! < 1377634306 536191 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which annoys me greatly because the rules about who wins seem fuzzy as hell, even if you assume you actually finish the whole game) < 1377634339 612482 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: players end the game when every territory is clearly defined, and surrounded by a single player. < 1377634357 208282 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I agree that the end condition of go isn't clear enough. < 1377634386 717504 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: now all you need is a clear definition of territory? < 1377634414 188706 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: territory is clear. there's a single colour around it, with potential spots of dead stones from the other player. < 1377634424 89430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well i think it's similar in chess, if it's obvious who will win then the loser should politely resign. < 1377634454 421010 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But it isn't always as obvious as it seems to be. < 1377634495 589422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, but it's the loser's judgement. < 1377634510 688765 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1377634512 300322 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is obvious! don't make me invoke the moving pineapples! < 1377634622 632765 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gringmuth notation for transmitting chess moves over radio and telegraph. < 1377634679 60761 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :gringmuth moving pineapple notation? < 1377634792 245447 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn chess is a complex boardgame, where players exchange unclear royal steaks until they decide which of them has lost. The game is recorded through the Gringmuth Moving Pineapple Notation. < 1377634796 330809 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377634846 110736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i s/./C/ wisdom/chess < 1377634849 899568 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377634854 75868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? chess < 1377634856 193323 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chess is a complex boardgame, where players exchange unclear royal steaks until they decide which of them has lost. The game is recorded through the Gringmuth Moving Pineapple Notation. < 1377634887 873609 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw `learn will automatically lowercase the filename. < 1377634904 277398 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1377634966 509365 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coule. < 1377634995 332313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly wonders if bananas could mean pineapples in swahili < 1377635175 491888 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maNdizi. probably. < 1377635223 125058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mananasi is pineapple but i'm not sure if google is right about the plural being the same < 1377635251 394262 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. according to wikipedia, there are different prefixes (in fact, different noun classes) for plurals. < 1377635287 390136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes so since bantu itself starts with ba i thought that might be for plurals < 1377635311 377031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1377635320 573143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :swahili doesn't use that < 1377635327 781421 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :must be some other bantu language < 1377635435 624210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i don't think google translation's list has any other bantu languages < 1377635503 556260 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :swahili was a trade language, surely it's atypical < 1377635528 792968 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :google translate's armenian is only eastern, which is very annoying. < 1377635701 284079 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've played some games of a chess "variant" with a friend where you don't ever announce check/checkmate, and are free to capture the king at any time and win < 1377635728 368436 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :we were probably not the first to come up with it though! < 1377635739 86163 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://africanlanguages.com/swahili/ gives me singular nanasi and plural mananasi < 1377635741 560418 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :inattentive chess < 1377635849 366949 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: so mananasi is class 6, and ndizi is 9/10. < 1377635882 737208 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ok < 1377636283 981422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess that means it's unlikely to be in the class 1 that many languages start with ba- < 1377636315 316609 :conehead_!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377636323 480368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um class 2 is the plural < 1377636370 787997 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? go < 1377636372 440052 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :go? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377636372 795031 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         | < 1377636373 7255 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69       º¯`\o < 1377636373 765265 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1377636379 628620 :conehead_!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead NICK :conehead < 1377636393 768933 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? myndzi < 1377636395 660625 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi keeps us all on our feet < 1377636405 442259 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pineapple < 1377636407 61996 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :pineapple? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377636407 458806 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                | < 1377636407 654293 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              o/`¯º < 1377636409 256556 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if a shark chomped your feet off? < 1377636412 484348 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Pineapple is a class 6 vegetable. < 1377636416 503930 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377636519 475636 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Go is a programming language invented by Google, a game invented in East Asia, and a common verb in the English language, invented by Germanic tribes. Taneb invented all three. < 1377636524 405841 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377636544 861532 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, three new tanebventions! < 1377636596 560664 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chinese is weird. pineapple is written as 菠蘿, literally “spinach ivy”. < 1377636621 186219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Go is a common verbal programming language invented by the Germanic Taneb tribes in East Asia. < 1377636625 74405 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377636637 633888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shortened it a bit < 1377636649 354329 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you squeeze "strategic" or "territory" in there? < 1377636672 216628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Go is a common verbal programming language invented by the Germanic Taneb tribes in the stratetig territories of East Asia. < 1377636675 851918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1377636677 478806 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377636681 669731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Go is a common verbal programming language invented by the Germanic Taneb tribes in the stratetic territories of East Asia. < 1377636685 900679 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377636693 242483 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Pineapple is a hybrid species descended from a cultivar of spinach and wild ivy, therefore making it a class 6 vegetable. < 1377636697 661113 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377636699 788665 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :g is hard to spell isn't it < 1377636734 12159 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Go is a common verbal game programming language invented by the Germanic Taneb tribes in the strategic territories of East Asia. < 1377636738 677862 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377636805 453863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1377636874 67098 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1377636875 80838 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1377636915 907772 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377636920 159848 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I was thinking, implementing a breadth-first search in a tree with a queue feels kinda like emulating a recursive function with a stack (except you're using a queue instead of a stack). are there other algorithm that feel like that? < 1377636950 284257 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Tanebventions include D-modules, automatic squirrel feeders, and Go < 1377636954 348193 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377636958 83868 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377637048 849851 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebvention < 1377637050 586712 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules and automatic squirrel feeders < 1377637079 524719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/tanebvention{s,} < 1377637083 49350 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377637123 595612 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1377637125 271177 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : A doubly linked list has O(1) insertion and deletion at both ends, so is a natural choice for queues. < 1377637125 488380 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : A regular singly linked list only has efficient insertion and deletion at one end. However, a small modification—keeping a pointer to the last node in addition to the first one—will enable it to implement an efficient queue. < 1377637131 585507 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's from wikipedia < 1377637170 651606 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, how's that wtf? < 1377637174 450859 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does adding links to the previous element make insertion and deletion any more efficient?? < 1377637177 296065 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: `learn should take s into account, presumably < 1377637191 293354 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was more thinking, how do you maintain a pointer to the last node < 1377637203 807140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that seems to have a lot of false positive opportunities < 1377637210 246777 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any languages which have something akin to recursion but which operates in a queue-ish fashion? < 1377637223 169522 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: kinda like you maintain a pointer to the first node < 1377637225 769937 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: downloading a bz2 of your repo ends in a corrupted archive. < 1377637235 183409 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: howso? < 1377637237 713131 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Gracenotes/Gregor/ < 1377637239 855443 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well maybe < 1377637253 852626 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: also you could use a circular buffer - ie having the last element point to the first element - this way you only need one pointer, to the last element < 1377637263 615188 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: by greasing and cleaning it regularly? < 1377637274 590615 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I see, the direction of the queue is opposite the direction of the pointers. < 1377637283 667581 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1377637292 566691 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://whois.domaintools.com/twitter.com hackers gettin cute < 1377637304 99191 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: queue automata < 1377637308 783340 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :popular nowadays < 1377637310 467146 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because in order to "remove the first element" you need to get a pointer to the second element < 1377637323 987248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: ah < 1377637331 581216 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, continuations, to some extent < 1377637337 588361 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know about the thing that is like a PDA but with queues < 1377637338 878477 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: where is the cuteness? < 1377637339 262820 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that what you mean < 1377637348 387908 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: "SEA" < 1377637354 71056 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the syrian electronic army < 1377637366 34924 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. sea sea sy. < 1377637378 739248 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes indeedy < 1377637406 662843 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a queue automaton is Turing-complete and has a state machine that peeks and then potentially pops/pushes depending on state < 1377637409 440560 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: the zip download works. doing an ls on the wisdom folder is... uhm.. well... postmodern. < 1377637417 825003 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1355 Market Street, Twitterloin < 1377637425 499616 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: how come they're so good at it < 1377637439 534483 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the setup is pretty much the same as PDAs, yeah. It's Turing-complete even when it's deterministic, as well. < 1377637446 35906 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A queue machine or queue automaton is a finite state machine with the ability to store and retrieve data from an infinite-memory queue. It is a model of computation equivalent to a Turing machine, and therefore it can process any formal language. < 1377637449 211106 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://nytimes.com/ it is a mystery < 1377637450 359008 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Key people: Th3 Pr0" < 1377637455 654514 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't have that article on esolangs.org < 1377637459 551907 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I add it? < 1377637463 435112 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is that meant to be anything other than down? < 1377637467 419797 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1377637469 145 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/add/stub < 1377637470 629819 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18yc7iz4dyj3ypng/ku-bigpic.png hacked by chinese, though < 1377637483 719094 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was just an error page for me < 1377637495 720309 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's down for me too, the message was brief < 1377637502 916832 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, they just seem kind of unreasonably competent < 1377637509 728011 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I know why the bz2 archive choked. who is the fungot of a fungot who made infinitely recursive folders in wisdom? < 1377637510 288914 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: clo. what is loue, tis not heereafter, present mirth, hath present laughter: what's to do? shall we go? titania. i pray you < 1377637515 294994 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a group that hacks the onion's twitter and posts meme images about obama < 1377637538 847240 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«~/temp/hackbot-filesystem-0b2ecb62f0f9/wisdom/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d...» < 1377637543 960994 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they've splintered a few times < 1377637545 439694 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :One commentator notes that "[SEA] volunteers might include Syrian diaspora; some of their hacks have used colloquial English and reddit memes. After Washington Post reporter Max Fisher called their jokes unfunny, one hacker associated with the group told a Vice interview “haters gonna hate.”"[10][11] < 1377637582 936427 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :might explain why they're so friggin pro-assad < 1377637634 518747 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum < 1377637638 431660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: seems related to tag systems (and thus BCT) < 1377637649 610654 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a clever password the other day I was sure I would remember it < 1377637654 714707 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: according to evidence, you are the most likely perpetrator of that FS violation. < 1377637667 534177 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :violation < 1377637669 890643 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1377637673 835308 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: did you write it? no copying from wikipedia or such on esolang for licensing reasons < 1377637679 289542 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d < 1377637681 370103 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: d: Is a directory < 1377637695 472924 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I was planning on copying from esolangs.org's push-down automata page < 1377637707 286436 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Syria chemical weapons use reports are pre-planned provocation - Russian Foreign Ministry" yeah sick of reading this already < 1377637710 390975 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -l wisdom/d < 1377637711 876904 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1377637714 779302 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then adding {stub} at the bottom < 1377637721 21218 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l wisdom/d < 1377637722 628062 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :total 4 \ drwxr-xr-x 3 5000 0 4096 Jun 20 19:19 d \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 0 Jul 31 20:45 da < 1377637742 301985 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nix :') < 1377637796 266269 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's going on exactly < 1377637808 478060 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh doom. < 1377637815 614838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/d < 1377637817 301273 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :d \ da < 1377637835 190062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd wisdom/d; find < 1377637836 505262 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​. \ ./d \ ./d/d \ ./d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d \ ./d/d/d < 1377637840 861594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1377637842 218889 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1377637847 34991 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not nice. < 1377637852 537608 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1377637852 682227 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that thing is ODIOUS. < 1377637854 482121 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm filled with pride < 1377637866 451273 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did i do it, for future reference < 1377637867 918741 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION smacks Phantom_Hoover with Bike < 1377637884 214678 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow hey there < 1377637886 667956 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: no idea, but you create corrupted unrecoverable bz2 archives. < 1377637894 126030 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: sorry. < 1377637906 800382 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a corrupting influence? < 1377637913 542029 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i demand to know the charges against me < 1377637925 829130 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I be voiced? I want to oppress Phantom_Hoover. < 1377637950 843580 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the bonus question in our exam was to recover a file from a corrupted archive < 1377637986 734104 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(now that I have a local wisdomcopy, time to latexify the whole thing...) < 1377638014 838667 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i gather this isn't a symlink loop somehow? < 1377638031 279199 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :boily > 1377638031 467584 NAMES :#esoteric < 1377638042 45448 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoa. < 1377638047 516637 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -ld wisdom/d < 1377638049 73118 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :drwxr-xr-x 3 5000 0 4096 Jul 31 20:45 wisdom/d < 1377638053 27048 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -ld wisdom/d/d < 1377638054 642321 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :drwxr-xr-x 3 5000 0 4096 Jun 20 19:19 wisdom/d/d < 1377638063 5016 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: FEEEEEEL THE OPPRESSION! < 1377638063 235944 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow good. < 1377638067 405376 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that even possible < 1377638077 520753 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i be voiced also < 1377638089 82579 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you understand how oppression works! < 1377638101 945004 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, well at least show me the evidence against me! < 1377638110 267844 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :HackEgo > 1377638110 291463 NAMES :#esoteric < 1377638119 432733 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit < 1377638141 190351 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everybody take cover < 1377638143 545180 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :The HackEgOppressor < 1377638153 749247 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1377638155 505411 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, automatic squirrel feeders, and Go < 1377638195 236617 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377638205 387227 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy. fungot. of. doom. I promise to properly oppress only those who deserve it! < 1377638207 745926 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: husband. god den, i thank you truly, la! ' nothing doubting' says he? alas, ha's banish'd me his bed already, his love too, who looses, yet ile preserve the honour of the forlorne french: him i forgiue my death, and death's dim look in life's mortality: each in her sleep themselves so beautify, as if that joy were now become a losse, cryes, oh, love's bow shoots buck and doe; the shaft confounds not that it wounds, but t < 1377638227 508122 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/d/da < 1377638228 614431 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377638233 856329 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the First Evidence Against You: «ngevd is a fake wisdom entry. `? ngevd is special-cased in bin/?. leave this file alone Phantom_Hoover‼» < 1377638235 591011 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d < 1377638237 726141 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d nothing < 1377638260 363771 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, circumstantial! < 1377638290 589350 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :circumstantial shmircumstantial. < 1377638328 740243 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -ld wisdom/d/d/d < 1377638330 759482 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :drwxr-xr-x 3 5000 0 4096 Jun 20 19:19 wisdom/d/d/d < 1377638359 90725 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for god's sake, it's an hg repository people < 1377638362 85794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that was an entirely reasonable edit < 1377638374 383576 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should be able to pin down exactly who created this madness < 1377638378 810136 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok back up here < 1377638380 365609 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"an hg"? < 1377638383 154228 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that pronounced < 1377638390 58612 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's the real issue here. < 1377638391 94502 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ache gé. < 1377638401 367610 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an aitch gee < 1377638401 512186 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't give me your swedish shit here < 1377638416 617242 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oughta be "hig" imo < 1377638419 895407 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "mercurial"... < 1377638429 712402 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ain't no sedish salmiak there. as a proud Canadian, I resent that remark. < 1377638434 559283 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1377638434 704066 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/se/swe/ < 1377638434 849029 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1377638438 660641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d < 1377638440 286080 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d: No such file or directory < 1377638446 680852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1377638455 309260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l wisdom/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d < 1377638457 81228 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 72 Jun 20 19:22 wisdom/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d < 1377638468 16411 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why so many subdirectories < 1377638468 499503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l wisdom/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d < 1377638470 334412 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :total 4 \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 72 Jun 20 19:22 d < 1377638479 875454 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :please tell me you didn't try cp -R . . < 1377638483 894064 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's finite you idiots < 1377638494 652300 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what! that's so boring. < 1377638499 778168 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d < 1377638501 106084 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d nothing < 1377638519 208932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh of course < 1377638527 56174 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... < 1377638534 846295 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :created by <oerjan> mv wisdom/tanebvention{s,} < 1377638541 472027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in that case, why does it corrupt the bz2 archive? < 1377638546 619239 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no reason left to oppress Phantom_Hoover... :( < 1377638561 473554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what < 1377638571 399056 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: probably some boring reason. weird unicode stuff going on, I guess. < 1377638577 783652 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/5c29355f719e/wisdom/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d < 1377638612 928943 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1377638620 252543 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no it was http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/rev/21a5f1578f31 < 1377638625 95806 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'guestbot' < 1377638676 485095 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. in that case, I'll have to oppress the least levenshteined person to guestbot. < 1377638678 158098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: oh that's just the bug where the repository browser lists the latest commit to the whole repository instead of to just that file. < 1377638697 603087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite annoying. < 1377638700 197411 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest18414: FEEL THE WRATH OF OPPRESSION‼ < 1377638768 869250 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: on the recent events that I can't get my freaking password, i'll let someone else make the page < 1377638823 262063 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: looks like guestbot did it in /msg to hackego... < 1377638835 224332 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2013-06-21#142222 < 1377638843 182103 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then I scared it away or something >_> < 1377639011 11819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's just make Koen_'s password hunter2 and get it away with. < 1377639043 803657 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password < 1377639045 492227 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :password? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377639045 891676 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               | < 1377639046 51592 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             o/`¯º < 1377639073 510733 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :only one thing for it. < 1377639077 268328 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :myndzi > 1377639077 278691 NAMES :#esoteric < 1377639113 394360 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Earl Grey Flavored Black Tea. How do they know what Mr. Grey tasted like? < 1377639113 854487 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem solved. < 1377639127 450688 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you mean because of teh "<>" thing. < 1377639131 625794 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: tested like tea, obviously < 1377639339 888494 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1377639550 707346 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377639574 534831 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1377639712 854120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: um myndzi looks properly aligned to me. and he did fix some alignment issues the other day. < 1377639724 968653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? what now < 1377639726 723316 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :what now? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377639727 646435 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               | < 1377639727 790958 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             o/`¯º < 1377639744 66078 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: he was misaligned with HackEgo. < 1377639751 173770 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to me < 1377639775 559420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although he still isn't, so that's ok < 1377639797 169564 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you should /set show_nickmode_empty off :p < 1377639810 873929 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"share my alignment issues" < 1377639864 302771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that change and why would i want it. < 1377639887 795357 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes "< elliott> into "<elliott>" < 1377639902 125896 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want it so that you can share with elliott your sadness at myndzi misalignment < 1377639903 490153 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does that have a setting? < 1377639905 350861 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no initial < < 1377639915 302436 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, sick. < 1377639917 748233 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also twisted < 1377639921 104311 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :please stop with the unmatched bracket < 1377639943 461577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mode is shown in its own column prior to the nicks < 1377639996 224181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which looks really nice when there is no < < 1377640028 442858 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: <3 < 1377640058 617563 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: the < ? < 1377640063 933011 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU CAN'T CLOSE A THREE WITHOUT OPENING AN EPSILON FIRST OKAY < 1377640088 449834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :people here are weird < 1377640097 240263 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: ♥ < 1377640110 414851 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what makes you say so? I am not insane. < 1377640121 317659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am sorry you don't get the full tone of my responses because of the script stripping < 1377640158 439032 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he he he hth. < 1377640291 546307 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377640323 424749 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377640346 694015 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck braid < 1377640347 120118 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :braid definition: to make from braids. < 1377640354 471152 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? braid theory < 1377640356 268367 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Braid theory is the theory of braids. < 1377640369 561197 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? category theory < 1377640371 455439 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Category theory is the theory of categories. < 1377640372 928277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Hexham/Helsinki/Lachine axis | 22nd IOCCC: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric hth < 1377640417 346635 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :0xHAM < 1377640491 555907 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Braid theory is the extremely twisted theory of braids. < 1377640495 507559 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377640498 152907 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh oops < 1377640521 191797 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: uhm. could you uh... not edit the wisdom DB for a while, please? I'm latexing it. < 1377640534 293279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/braid{,' theory'} < 1377640537 290009 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377640544 40357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? braid theory < 1377640545 991225 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Braid theory is the extremely twisted theory of braids. < 1377640553 819413 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, I guess the worse that could happen is that my version'll become somewhat like the hitchiker's guide and be authoratively incorrect on the subject. < 1377640573 291084 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377640594 590748 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, someone is handing out holey bibles and people are getting holes in their windows < 1377640601 393228 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is op, please nerf < 1377640622 739824 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: behold the OP of the BOT. < 1377640641 448937 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, I have «a» and «b» covered. < 1377640697 701870 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you should make some kind of script for this so you can easily repeat your work when wisdom expands < 1377640711 881564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm with olsner < 1377640779 432842 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to, but there are some entries that are unicodely creative, other that I have to hand edit because of my linter, and some that don't match their filename. < 1377640794 393502 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw, how did I get that nice linter bound with vim???) < 1377640922 978991 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, some entries I nicely format, others I completely ignore cause I'm a lazy bitch, and stuff. < 1377641322 811887 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1377641437 697535 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <fizzie> Possible business plan: data storage on the moon? <fizzie> Getting at it after the collapse of civilization here might be an issue. <boily> who cares about civilization? you have backups! < 1377641441 306310 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1095) <fizzie> Possible business plan: data storage on the moon? <fizzie> Getting at it after the collapse of civilization here might be an issue. <boily> who cares about civilization? you have backups! < 1377641468 460558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have blatantly censored half-relevant but unfunny parts by Vorpal here. < 1377641520 755847 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how oppressive of you < 1377641531 16729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the fashionable thing < 1377641630 976304 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I approve of you oppressiveness. < 1377641635 559803 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/you/your/ < 1377642023 432435 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«c» and «d» are covered. I'm hungry. < 1377642029 227733 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: foude. < 1377642036 578658 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377642134 601976 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? category < 1377642136 638467 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Categories are just a special case of bicategories. < 1377642147 676154 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm good definition < 1377642469 571516 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377642864 901686 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo In category theory, category theory is a theory in the category of theories. > wisdom/category\ theory < 1377642868 377893 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377642873 559674 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? category theory < 1377642874 881539 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :In category theory, category theory is a theory in the category of theories. < 1377642907 412982 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just not helpful at all < 1377642947 575537 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: So no real change, then? < 1377643694 308669 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good news for sgeos: the thing i have to use for class uses tcl scripting < 1377644518 289522 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377645933 798921 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377646950 339332 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377646967 220695 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377646982 332904 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377647722 697697 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1377648027 194140 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377648997 687776 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1377649703 674661 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377649721 382093 :madbr!madbr@modemcable113.216-163-184.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1377650302 305819 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1377651392 819932 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1377651891 947491 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377652365 327407 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377652826 577260 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377653572 305045 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377655627 25519 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377655700 988526 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1377655830 134118 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377657869 448066 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1377657894 942056 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377657923 187694 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1377658119 839510 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you find procedural SQL useful? I find a lot of things can be done in plain SQL, although a virtual table containing all numbers, and a few extra functions (square root, quartiles, blob access, execute a string containing SQL commands, etc), are good things to have on. < 1377658268 746565 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are still a few additional features I would like to see in SQL, although I don't know if any of them are available in any variant of SQL. < 1377659442 184941 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1377659471 186650 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1377661329 164984 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1377661942 91802 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://mitpress.mit.edu/covers/9780262019538.jpg the animes.................. < 1377662725 442381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems that you meant mitpress.mst.edu. Do you want Adblock Plus to correct typos to protect you from malicious websites? < 1377662733 931841 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good correction < 1377662740 713839 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even know I had that installed. < 1377662778 163390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a bit ironic now. < 1377663094 627109 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is it ironic? < 1377663169 850395 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377663372 634918 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :man i used an https uri and everything :'( < 1377663413 672647 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/1l7baq/creating_a_user_from_the_web_problem/ r/PHP is a terrifying place < 1377663452 479270 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I also added http to group wheel." < 1377664316 233092 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1377664400 411457 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :/r/lolphp is pretty sweet < 1377664410 15401 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that particular quote really scares me < 1377664416 706905 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: procedural SQL is okay < 1377664430 95666 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :having written a lot in it, I'd avoid it where possible < 1377664432 540075 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really awkward < 1377664559 265118 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377664992 927990 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: OK, I suppose; well, I also avoid procedural SQL, since I use SQLite which doesn't support procedural SQL, and I find procedural SQL doesn't help anything anyways since it can be programmed in plain SQL. < 1377665113 519052 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the advantage to procedural SQL is the ability to create functions inside the database which are used by multiple clients in different languages, and so reduce duplication < 1377665127 647795 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in practice, this is a good idea only where you can't do something saner, like write an interface layer in some other language < 1377665296 6584 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not understand exactly what you mean. I tend to write most of the program in SQL, when using SQL. < 1377665335 546792 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will write any extra functions I need into a .dll so that it can be loaded using anything. < 1377665363 826347 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But these extra functions are mainly stuff useful in a lot of uses anyways, such as square root, and a virtual table containing all integers. < 1377665479 148884 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some features I would like to see added, though, such as macros, overridable views and triggers, trigger indices, ordered triggers, table cells that contain databases, and a few others. < 1377665931 139390 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found that triggers seem to run in the reverse order of being defined. I find this a very useful feature. However, I asked someone and they said the order isn't supposed to be guaranteed. < 1377666601 970956 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1377667162 780041 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Excess Flood < 1377667554 392862 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1377668586 940829 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377668691 567877 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377672134 750802 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377672226 429081 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377672382 112424 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for posterity: shell_exec("sudo useradd -p $encpass -g groupname -s /bin/bash $username"); < 1377672397 142691 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lovely < 1377672727 579087 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377673312 371102 :madbr!madbr@modemcable113.216-163-184.mc.videotron.ca QUIT : < 1377673738 295479 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377674276 888462 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it would be nice to be able to clear the buffer of keystrokes that haven't been sent yet in mosh < 1377674301 147988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :say i know a connection won't be re-established for hours but out of habit i press alt-a a bunch of time in irssi < 1377674327 271883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i either risk missing a notification or i have to close the mosh session before reconnecting to the network < 1377674339 429161 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(another solution to this problem would be fine too) < 1377674530 721560 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1377674548 568014 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think some of the terminology in chess problems can be applied to Pokemon card puzzles as well. < 1377674574 672216 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How about ignoring input when in the state that notifies about the lack of connectivity? I’d be happy with that. < 1377674598 814298 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not so great because sometimes my connection is just bad. < 1377674622 972658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I get into that state, but I want to keep typing. < 1377674641 711704 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that case, perhaps also have a parameter that lets you increase the timeout before it thinks there’s no connectivity. < 1377674732 314945 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The comments are great. http://php.net/manual/en/function.serialize.php < 1377674862 587361 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :See if you can make up a Pokemon card puzzle involving retreating four times in one turn, or even five, or six, if such a thing can be made. < 1377675473 168134 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/lolphp/comments/1jfkrg/serialize_documentation_pick_your_favorite_comment/cbe5quf < 1377676557 143641 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can make up some list of terminology for Pokemon card puzzles, some of which is similar to that of chess, but there are differences so some new terminology would be used too (also, not all chess terminology is applicable). < 1377676823 637781 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is "Scholar's Mate" given that name? < 1377676878 556325 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1377677701 26993 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah I opened a ticket about that a while ago < 1377678553 508130 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377679396 583267 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377680801 741444 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377681544 899495 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, I missed a somewhat interesting talk this morning. < 1377681567 871568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about? < 1377681583 592732 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This keynote talk focuses on signal processing techniques for modeling analog audio systems used in music technology. Many analog music systems produce a distinctive and desirable sound, but the original devices may be expensive or hard to access and maintain. Examples include classic synthesizer modules and vintage guitar amplifiers." < 1377681659 75660 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An overview of recent research in the area of virtual analog modeling will be presented. Topics include antialiasing oscillator algorithms, virtual analog synthesizer filters, modeling of guitar pickups, spring reverberation units, ring modulators, carbon microphones, and audio antiquing." < 1377681664 82425 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm no music person, but for some reason listening to other people talk about this stuff has generally been interesting. < 1377681740 760836 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's going to be a keynote at DAFx-13; the person giving it works here and apparently had a rehearsal this morning, but keeping up-to-date on email is for squares.) < 1377683544 344834 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377685449 115610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1377685643 588458 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1377685822 754766 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377687526 931589 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so hum < 1377687542 325882 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't get a new password emailed to me because I already did in the last 24 hours < 1377687548 599045 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I never received that new password < 1377687613 854879 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already had a new password sent to me on the 24th, but it's no longer working because I was asked to change it the first time I tried to log in with it < 1377687638 213608 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I can't remember what I changed it to (but that probably doesn't matter, since I'm supposed to have been sent a new one) < 1377687708 39148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think after all that, it's your karma to have to wait 24 hours, Koen__ < 1377687716 291192 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooooooooooo < 1377687731 210579 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, it's a truly gruesome punishment. < 1377687745 960769 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, I just noticed I had two underscores < 1377687762 885478 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is getting out of hand < 1377687784 111647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/phantom* < 1377687788 953832 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/phantom_hoover \ wisdom/phantom__hoover \ wisdom/phantom___hoover \ wisdom/phantom_______hoover \ wisdom/phantom__________hoover \ wisdom/phantom____________________hoover < 1377687793 342474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE < 1377687823 345343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suddently remember that technically listing them all is a bit of cheating < 1377687840 710159 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1377687851 377967 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric -o :HackEgo > 1377687851 663903 NAMES :#esoteric < 1377688035 414754 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1377688828 804087 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I finally tried mosh just for fun and its locale-related error message was quite incorrect: it complained about LC_CTYPE and said something about US-ASCII, though the issue was that my LC_NUMERIC didn't exist on the server < 1377688871 406471 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(After fixing that I was reminded of the fact that this WLAN completely blocks UDP so the experiment ended) < 1377689310 761154 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377690237 231129 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377691039 633641 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377691803 369510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something is wrong, the second image in the latest xkcd whatif has no title text < 1377691817 244276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*what-ig < 1377691822 627632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*f < 1377691835 419350 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's those pesky g's running around again < 1377691873 12126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :given the image, i suppose the title text was censored by the government < 1377692125 5364 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was thinking it was a conspiracy-theory joke. < 1377692149 886626 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure xkcd forums have already some speculation as to why it might be. < 1377692182 397190 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's definitely the real government censoring this. < 1377692571 879470 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1377692983 773979 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1377693057 254569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: "There's an image without title text? THE END IS NEAR!!! AHHHH!!!" < 1377693062 805333 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, yeah. < 1377693227 346601 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377694202 242839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know where the picture characters here are from http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=1561 < 1377694296 847416 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm imagining it could be a game or another comic, but googling on what little (non-garfield) text hints there are didn't help. < 1377694730 616456 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377694732 697397 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377694738 207377 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net PART :#esoteric < 1377694998 508713 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good brumeux morning! < 1377695072 157361 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good sunny fternoon! < 1377695820 232131 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The dude on the left looks vaguely familiar, but I don't know from where; Google's "visually similar images" search is, as usual, of no use at all: http://goo.gl/Ydb6C2 (link might not work, I don't know how it does w.r.t. uploaded images) < 1377695867 596265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :worked fine < 1377696153 313991 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "Eridanipoids form a category of uncategorifiable stellar remnants." >wisdom/eridanipoid < 1377696157 434151 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377696219 798802 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: since when are you this channel's centroïd? it hasn't been computed yet! < 1377696233 613146 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1377696274 285156 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1377696276 261986 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. monqy is its centroïd. < 1377696286 560508 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1377696302 195037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -n " They form dense clusters of unmovable and unstoppable objects." >>wisdom/eridanipoid < 1377696306 28915 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377696313 124686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um wait < 1377696327 541556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? eridanipoid < 1377696329 439493 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eridanipoids form a category of uncategorifiable stellar remnants. \ They form dense clusters of unmovable and unstoppable objects. < 1377696349 847396 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no transmogrifying the Wisdom DB while I'm latexifying it! < 1377696365 578296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DENIED < 1377696392 395583 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: apparently ever since (counts on fingers) 2013 april 20, when shachaf deduced it and you added the wisdom db entry < 1377696430 461521 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: just wait, you miscreant! I'll [REDACTED] the [EXPUNGED] out of your [FUNGOT] you'll feel it all the way up to your grandma's teeth! < 1377696457 136113 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: oh. uhm. quite embarassing, isn't it? < 1377696458 370157 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run fmt -w400 <wisdom/eridanipoid >q; mv q wisdom/eridanipoid < 1377696462 280435 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377696466 864749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? eridanipoid < 1377696468 726166 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eridanipoids form a category of uncategorifiable stellar remnants. \ They form dense clusters of unmovable and unstoppable objects. < 1377696472 376708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1377696480 429102 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha. < 1377696481 937642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a reformatting ;_; < 1377696515 397945 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com NICK :`^_^v < 1377696628 19893 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck corun < 1377696628 345543 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Software description: coroutine based python library that uses only built-in python features to provide a low-level event driven programming model (Python). < 1377696715 447611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl -i -e 'my $a = join "", <>; $a =~ s/\n//g; print $a' wisdom/eridanipoid < 1377696719 286054 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eridanipoids form a category of uncategorifiable stellar remnants. They form dense clusters of unmovable and unstoppable objects. < 1377696739 457719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1377696772 787974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? eridanipoid < 1377696774 811019 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377696779 128552 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. < 1377696779 409209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1377696782 500171 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1377696809 901073 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl -e 'my $a = join "", <>; $a =~ s/\n//g; print $a' wisdom/eridanipoid >q; mv q wisdom/eridanipoid < 1377696814 97944 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377696816 222831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? eridanipoid < 1377696817 904815 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eridanipoids form a category of uncategorifiable stellar remnants. They form dense clusters of unmovable and unstoppable objects. < 1377696885 84466 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, I identify "Perkeleistä", but the rest is finnishdigook. < 1377697002 485240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/form dense/occur in dense/' wisdom/eridanipoid < 1377697006 497214 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377697043 705945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait that's ambiguous < 1377697046 772586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1377697048 891042 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1377697154 599108 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so eridanipoïds are dense remnants that move, don't move, are in space, clustered, and can't be categorified. < 1377697176 804881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sums that up. < 1377697191 601081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also move and don't move are equivalent by relativity < 1377697233 685918 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. my understanding of physics never was up to par... < 1377697239 376830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: causes insanity when preceded by its quotation < 1377697251 995492 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I never flunked as many exams as in physics classes.) < 1377697272 870496 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ctar CYUL < 1377697273 137008 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1377697276 98088 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELL CRAP < 1377697277 907147 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1377697283 145571 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1377697283 664748 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 281332Z 22002KT 1 1/2SM BR OVC003 21/21 A2991 RMK ST8 SLP127 DENSITY ALT 900FT < 1377697291 657548 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :dat visibility < 1377697316 501332 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: cf. «good brumeux morning» from earlier today. < 1377697331 812963 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :urgh. 21/21. that is most disgusting. < 1377697342 565755 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377697467 160652 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, right? < 1377697472 356648 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't actually know) < 1377697519 336996 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means humidity can't get higher without us having to swim through the air when going out for a lunch. < 1377697583 855155 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1377697589 768360 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be up for a swim < 1377697621 204287 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, that's the dew point? < 1377697632 930059 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is so. < 1377697644 836628 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so < 1377697697 649744 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("so so so, so-li-da-ri-té!") < 1377697750 975964 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Station Time WindSpeed Visibility Weather Ceilling DewPoint something something something < 1377697758 859783 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1377697846 655604 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The existing fields (though not their order, perhaps) seems to vary quite a lot. < 1377697849 897506 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1377697850 336701 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 281320Z 17010KT 9999 FEW038 21/13 Q1015 NOSIG < 1377697864 562936 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp < 1377697882 920198 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it depends on the national standard, and wether the human ops (or automated station apparatuses) can be assed to give details. < 1377697945 400215 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tall order < 1377697951 979135 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :No really, I need a tall coffee < 1377697954 15607 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brb < 1377697966 866021 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: EFHK: helsinki. observation made at 13:20+0000 today. winds of 10 knots at 170°, ground visibility is irrelevant, a few clouds at 3800', temperature 21 °C with dew point at 13 °C, QNH at 101,5 kPa and nothing significant to write about. < 1377697990 935974 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1377697991 469310 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 281320Z 17010KT 9999 FEW038 21/13 Q1015 NOSIG < 1377697996 580139 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well =P < 1377698026 428658 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to get the hang of it eventually =P < 1377698085 119732 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1377698753 468006 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«e» and «f» covered. < 1377699206 750255 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377699273 244083 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377699621 276150 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck gamzee < 1377699621 603948 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gamzee is a company. < 1377699645 649615 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :go duck duck go, you can do it! < 1377699794 509609 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck Tavros < 1377699794 888389 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tavros (, which means "bull"), is a sburb in the southwestern part of Athens, Greece. < 1377699806 884312 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck Vriska < 1377699807 184615 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377699807 329808 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377699822 139457 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck stavromula beta < 1377699822 478597 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377699846 497429 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instructions to install Haskell < 1377699871 514478 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: http://www.haskell.org/platform/ < 1377699882 859724 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :- Download the Windows installer < 1377699883 4299 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :- Run the setup.exe program < 1377699883 4395 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :- Follow the install instructions as prompted. < 1377699885 499852 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1377699898 963355 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just marvelling at the simplicity < 1377699906 146750 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. :) < 1377699947 875187 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so simple, and yet apparently warrants step-by-step instructions < 1377699957 182765 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«g» and «h» covered. I also conflagrated the gaszszszpachoes. < 1377699965 627026 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you doing? =P < 1377699965 855281 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your instructions are to follow your given instructions < 1377699993 646431 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much, yeah < 1377700003 519143 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I'm manually and lovingly enlatexifying the Wisdoms. < 1377700030 525755 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, nice < 1377700034 107734 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :dat latex < 1377700052 408302 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the local LaTeX evangelist at work < 1377700120 533865 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my SO is an Elite Legendary Paragon at LaTeX. she can summon .sty with her eyes closed. < 1377700171 164207 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's nice < 1377700179 427283 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm much of a newbie < 1377700187 350744 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just the only one who Knows < 1377700246 55326 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now < 1377700249 812686 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do I want to install GLUT? < 1377700251 502319 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I do < 1377700254 22842 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm not sure < 1377700265 362501 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want to. glut is good for you and building muscles. < 1377700428 384545 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377700651 262133 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH THE FUNGOTITY. < 1377700666 261750 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 MB FOR A SINGLE ENTRY. < 1377700676 376340 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1377700682 12008 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAURGH! < 1377701051 610282 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377701053 898702 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? irrelevant info < 1377701055 965104 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :KHL?%y9vnkM_v46 $Tn`ʋxkH2gqH;!;2F(zإ2CmXW < 1377701131 598267 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1377701133 360993 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1377701169 101515 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377701236 290544 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome HackEgo < 1377701239 209825 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08HackEg13o: W10e06lcome to the in08tern04a09tion09al hub for es03oteric02 13p10rogramming lang13u13age d06esign an02d07 d12eployment!12 For m03ore infor11mation, check out our wiki: http://eso05lan13gs.org/wiki/Ma10i08n_Page. (For the other kind11 of esoter07ica, try #esoteric on irc.02dal.14net.) < 1377701389 960610 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377701431 911087 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377701600 135304 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377701658 719905 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was I smoking when I wrote that... < 1377701661 599735 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lexer < 1377701663 723594 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexer is a maximally Norwegian painter. Its squares are munched with chili sauce. < 1377701689 539250 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, aren't they? < 1377701703 313604 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, "max 5 6 8" doesn't work for < 1377701705 495723 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :me < 1377701707 873152 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should it? < 1377701711 903093 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t max < 1377701712 812136 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ord a => a -> a -> a < 1377701719 234919 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1377701729 182272 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only two parameters, apparently < 1377701746 347561 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval foldl1 max [5, 6, 8] < 1377701747 512617 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 < 1377701753 499347 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval life < 1377701754 150243 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): Not in scope: `life' < 1377701754 294974 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps you meant `lift' (imported from Control.Monad.Logic) < 1377701763 747263 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>okay < 1377701866 361497 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm starting to miss lisp =P < 1377701947 776663 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also go the foldMap way. monoids are easy. you won't miss Lisp and its brethren. < 1377702061 421602 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? logs < 1377702063 249334 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​1113I05 08thin13k13 y09o10u06 05m02i12g08h05t14 m03ea10n08 02!11l06og09s11 < 1377702100 503726 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me I'll have to remove those «% TODO» sometime... anybody here who can do colours in LaTeX? < 1377702195 642964 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«i», «j», «k» and «l» covered. < 1377702315 72070 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377702701 854361 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just read some about semiotics, saussure seems fine, but what people have done since then is grotesque < 1377702742 934120 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm curious, who designed the wisdom face? < 1377702802 234713 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\newcommand{\face}{\={ }$\backslash(^\circ$\_o$)$/\={ }} < 1377703114 309293 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaan... I crashed firefox. < 1377703488 167061 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not too hard, if I don't crash it now and then I worry that something has gone wrong < 1377703724 961781 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? face < 1377703726 823028 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :face? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377703727 179770 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1377703727 324553 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         º¯`\o < 1377703737 689325 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's easy to type < 1377703748 14871 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\(°_o)/¯, gonna have to remember that < 1377703748 282991 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  | < 1377703748 447576 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69º¯`\o < 1377703761 47782 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1377703770 796273 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu NICK :a < 1377703776 498396 :a!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377703779 779754 :a!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1377703788 888461 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :clever, myndzi, clever. < 1377703800 48242 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi is a clever bot. < 1377703928 57006 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi is Cleverbot? < 1377703941 419290 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? myndzi < 1377703943 161601 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi keeps us all on our feet < 1377703948 460058 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: ↑ < 1377703953 587939 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh =P < 1377703955 512564 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Literally =P < 1377703985 156184 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, when will itidus come back? < 1377704066 372231 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> maximum [5, 6, 8] -- incidentally < 1377704067 655802 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 8 < 1377704098 150828 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type maximum < 1377704098 906093 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hoogle has no hits for "incidentally". < 1377704099 50768 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ord a => [a] -> a < 1377704119 859908 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was what's called a comment. < 1377704137 247130 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION facepalms < 1377704146 91352 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :rem Back in my days... < 1377704146 304892 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :move along. nobody saw nothing. < 1377704172 480622 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recently saw a .bat file that was full of "rem ember this and that" documentation. < 1377704217 572331 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh =P < 1377704230 385274 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1377704251 335336 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :C1234 IN MY DAYS < 1377704292 311679 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :' Back in my days... < 1377704329 163763 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :comment In somebody else's days comment < 1377704383 466648 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 REM WHAT < 1377704595 726133 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Every card processed by SOAP II may contain remarks not exceeding 10 characters in length. When longer remarks are desired, a comments card, which may contain up to 30 characters, may be used." < 1377704608 353533 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1377705605 941303 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377705692 857735 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377706189 559839 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377706263 574851 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1377706841 206633 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cards... as in the very olds cards with holes that were used before computers? < 1377707099 288099 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, this was from the documentation of the programming language used with an electro-technical information processing machine < 1377707135 888674 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"electro-technical"? < 1377707168 301560 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, "electron-technical" < 1377707211 147566 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that mean < 1377707218 33626 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was expecting "electromechanical" < 1377707233 63479 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means an IBM 650 in this case < 1377707270 752442 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's overly directly translated from https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ensi ) < 1377707302 931468 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377707397 369492 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377707400 539887 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377708117 415363 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen__ < 1377708548 931065 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377708678 227737 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377708847 15566 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«"Brazilian self-citation cartel" is possibly the world's lamest cartel» < 1377709105 773898 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"«"Brazilian self-citation cartel" is possibly the world's lamest cartel», said Bike", said Roujo < 1377709152 952480 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1377709388 192519 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1377709539 543882 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1377709934 730571 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377710449 207951 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this sentence contains six words" < 1377710498 913318 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it < 1377710575 527753 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1377710634 969231 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1377710781 831553 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thwarps doesthiswork with a copy of GEB < 1377710808 207289 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377710818 190426 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«“‘Roujo: don't you think that you are overquoting there?”»’ < 1377710945 612127 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: there is no fundamental relation between how many words it says it has and how many it does have. < 1377710964 831035 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "less than" a fundamental relation < 1377710991 723502 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it called in chess when you refrain from capturing an opponent's piece because that piece is blocking another opponent's piece from moving? < 1377711027 460412 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: posets. < 1377711051 135286 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :check yoset before you wreck...set < 1377711071 247313 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: a skewer, I think? < 1377711098 59766 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: replace 'it' with 'a sentence' < 1377711098 284774 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, that's what it is called? < 1377711133 786813 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Tarkista yoset ennen hylky ... asettaa < 1377711137 555110 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: does a sentence < 1377711147 760100 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1377711161 166050 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does a sentence contains a sentence, or is it the sentence itself? < 1377711181 1027 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: No, I don't think a skewer is what I am talking about. < 1377711204 246584 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1377711207 371347 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I' currently on wikipédia's chess tactics, and indeed it is not a skewer. < 1377711282 850659 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it can by quotation < 1377711333 456896 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: probably something related to interference, I guess. < 1377711389 471777 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe that kind of situation is more common in xiangqi, viz. the horses have special movement rules, so you can position your pieces in temporarily safe squares because the opponent's can't move there. < 1377711444 750882 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: but then, it is a quine of itself that contains the content of the quine in the quine, and not the sentence as a whole which only partially refers to the sentence in a quine. < 1377711448 898352 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need coffee. < 1377711546 246220 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yes, the movement of the horses in xiangqi can do that but does it have a name in xiangqi in general (not only to do with a horse)? < 1377711597 611388 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :least fixed point of "this sentence is false" < 1377711619 615298 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I didn't say yes to the second question < 1377711698 333681 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sentence "the sentence "this sentence contains six words" contains five words" is a sentence < 1377711711 500089 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it < 1377711717 604607 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "this sentence contains six words" is also a sentence < 1377711722 41238 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it.... quotation nesting errors < 1377711783 903279 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: you are perfectly able to see how the quotations nest, the spaces make it unambiguous < 1377711793 711778 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1377711828 916188 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«««»»«»«««»»«««««»»«»«»«»»»«««»»» < 1377711855 849350 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if it has a name, I can't pronounce it :( < 1377711863 646805 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you put "doesn't" it is still wrong < 1377711918 34627 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we have a sentence A where A v ¬A is False. < 1377711965 822253 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, a classic (lol) resolution to "this sentence is false" is to assign a truth value of "neither true nor false" < 1377711985 389040 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do like... "this sentence is not true" or something to break that though. too tired to remember exactly < 1377712007 605434 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean "this sentence doesn't contains six words" < 1377712029 803565 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or more reasonably adding "doesn't" doesn't perfectly correspond to negation < 1377712060 121560 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it doesn't perfectly correspond to negation. < 1377712106 83110 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm pretty sure I can trick people into saying that it does, and then spring this sentence on them. < 1377712166 295742 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :either we are abusing bots, or logic. we are become esoteric, destroyers of common sense and pineapples. < 1377712170 653765 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you zzo38 < 1377712412 345002 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: did you finish your tex wisdom? < 1377712450 204563 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377712519 993720 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: no, I was eating sushi. < 1377712559 214129 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: how long have you been eating sushi? < 1377712570 465608 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeh... half an hour, I guess? < 1377712575 298746 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377712615 27552 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, then I find it an invalid excuse < 1377712649 573867 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I know, but now I have nutrients in my body and can think of a better excuse! < 1377712668 573447 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :last entry I did is «ngevd». < 1377712670 735287 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :splendid < 1377712705 142574 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should implement that entry using a TeX PRNG < 1377712735 326435 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO U < 1377712743 124362 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm scared of that kind of thing. < 1377712779 392885 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :face your fears < 1377712790 373021 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah. I'm a publicly known coward. < 1377712810 186795 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, question. couldn't we just make wisdom/ngevd a symlink to /dev/urandom < 1377712903 186205 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377712949 158494 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that might break if someone tries to fix it < 1377712950 177430 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377712956 382824 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there may also be a good reason, I dunno < 1377713004 843436 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377713026 78682 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck roald dahl < 1377713026 478853 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roald Dahl (13 September 191623 November 1990) was a British novelist, short story writer, poet, fighter pilot and screenwriter. < 1377713095 853496 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It was that. < 1377713109 32209 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It kept breaking when you wanted to do some operation over all wisdom/* files. < 1377713130 223923 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, rather, working around that one entry in all greps and whatnot was an annoy. < 1377713174 709121 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377713237 390674 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377713301 356315 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`randomanonlog < 1377713305 696029 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's cheating :-) < 1377713339 587375 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, sorry < 1377713373 524555 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, lol. < 1377713373 708100 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's there for the guess-the-identity game? < 1377713400 583927 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1377713734 96131 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`randomanonlog < 1377713737 893437 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :E!1 a\n < 1377713748 28749 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377713759 206886 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: looks like so, and impossible to guess correctly. < 1377713816 569355 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`randomanonlog < 1377713820 963914 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377713830 390087 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a boring thing to say. < 1377713844 171439 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably said a lot though < 1377713864 516458 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: Was that you, yourself, by any chance? < 1377713869 71116 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :̀randomanalog < 1377713877 208063 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :̀randomanonlog < 1377713884 653386 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`randomanonlog < 1377713885 650776 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like randomanonlog has been used twice before today, by zzo38 on 2012-04-29 < 1377713889 88678 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :nn < 1377713898 492857 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this game is hard. < 1377713903 758677 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rando-man on log. < 1377713910 34486 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nn. just nn. how the fungot am I supposed to know who said that. < 1377713926 109265 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Are you feeling all right there? < 1377713926 413572 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: behold, these are a side that would be known. thou canst not read < 1377713928 519581 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: was it you? < 1377713928 787221 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: falst. saue thy grace, leaue fnord your owne renowned knowledge, quite forgoe the way which brought vs hither < 1377713932 883616 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :man or random-an < 1377713965 384259 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION poke fungot “Oh, fungoooot ♪” < 1377713965 688480 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: apemantus. right, i mean? servant. wholly, sir. < 1377713971 926653 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! ☺ < 1377713975 146057 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`man randoman < 1377713976 392532 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :man: can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/manpath.config < 1377713980 332773 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. < 1377713981 655086 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this style from text that mixes u and v? < 1377714000 610517 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if vs/saue/leaue means us/save/leave < 1377714039 158484 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It's from some Project Gutenberg files, is about all I remember. < 1377714056 515297 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly I should have a Document describing the history of each style. (But I don't.) < 1377714072 856039 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :documentation? sounds like wussy shit. < 1377714082 447784 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know of a "59eye+1Mewtwo" deck in Pokemon card? (It has been given different names because different people figured it out independently, although so did I and this is the name I gave it.) < 1377714092 326498 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: as long as you never leave we can just ask you < 1377714097 609908 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time a guy i know vandalized a userpage of mine with text of a random gutenberg book, and later neither of us could find it ever again < 1377714118 966694 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION arc-welds fizzie to the abstract substance of the chännel < 1377714156 439955 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what do these cards do? can you send me links? < 1377714189 997323 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You should write yourself a home page. Do you want an installation of FrontPage to do it with? < 1377714190 232136 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: say. heare me deare lady, i shall < 1377714227 942254 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: And stop calling me a lady. < 1377714228 459903 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: du.sen. come, dearest madam. o, tis a boysterous and a cruell stile, a stile for challengers: why, look, thy foes are bound, to morrow < 1377714237 610752 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think "madam" is much better. < 1377714307 565449 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: They are the Mewtwo Lv.53 from the base set and basic energy cards. < 1377714371 363947 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what are your rates? do you accept visa? < 1377714472 910954 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377714510 698625 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: How does this deck work? < 1377714540 689676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you need psy energy too? < 1377714542 651908 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377714568 764262 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, all the cards are psy energy. < 1377714572 949378 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1377714593 406342 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a valid deck? < 1377714626 724829 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea how to pokemon. < 1377714690 638078 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck sprø < 1377714691 12650 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377714696 813638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEWTWO [Lv.53] has E: { @ } HP: 6 W: { @ } R: - and two attacks, one costing { @* } causing number of energy attached to opponent's active pokemon +1, one costing { @@ } and discard an energy card attached to self, causing all effects of opponent's attacks on this card to fail next turn < 1377714724 809872 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-23861397 "The aim of the experiment was to see what would happen if a microscopic sphere was spun as fast as was technically possible... They saw it spin faster and faster until it reached 600 million rpm - and then it seemed to vanish! The researchers don't know what happened to the sphere" < 1377714740 291337 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1377714771 707821 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I think that's from the name of a book about norwegian health care < 1377714782 270065 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We may even be able to shed light on the area of quantum friction - that is does quantum mechanics put the brakes on the motion or spinning particle even though we are in a near perfect vacuum with no other apparent sources of friction?" wat < 1377714813 333964 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You need at least one card that can be played as a basic pokemon card, but the other fifty-nine cards can be anything. < 1377714863 583533 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck eye < 1377714864 199759 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eye definition: a specialized light-sensitive sensory structure of animals that in nearly all vertebrates, most arthropods, and some mollusks is the image-forming organ of sight; '''especially'''. < 1377714882 524265 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially < 1377714952 771241 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377714967 314181 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377714992 822813 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that... bugs me. this «especially», I don't trust it. < 1377715018 32088 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :up to «s» is covered! < 1377715022 283750 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of cool how many things we call eyes even though they have no phylogenetic and very little morphological similarity < 1377715100 212128 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some plants have “eyes” that can detect light. < 1377715105 296784 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377715106 412689 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1377715108 432211 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, automatic squirrel feeders, and Go < 1377715114 33513 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I was missing the go part. < 1377715122 35563 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the homiobox genes had a section for eye placement < 1377715126 300137 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do? i thought plant motion was just from chloroplast activity or somethin. < 1377715147 149777 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so animals at least share a common eye orgin < 1377715172 863329 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I need to find the concerned species, but yeah. a very small number of plants have what, with some stretching, you can call an eye. < 1377715179 391650 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1377715215 268328 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: i'm reasonably sure compound eyes and our eyes evolved independently. i don't think homeobox controls eye placement? maybe as part of controlling face < 1377715217 486456 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A 59eye+1Mewtwo deck can sometimes win but it can also often lose if opponent knows about it. < 1377715271 127400 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i'm thinking of like, clams that have a ring of eyes < 1377715291 127038 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: the focusing parts developed separately, but before that photosensitive patches of skin existed < 1377715306 10299 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9177348 hrm < 1377715321 803489 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've always heard that eyespots evolved multiple times < 1377715335 994460 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you're right and it's farther apart than between us and flies, though < 1377715356 936479 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_the_eye#One_origin_or_many.3F hrm < 1377715370 388940 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pax6 < 1377715372 261314 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have enough eyes yet? < 1377715381 918283 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm already hrm-ing! < 1377715395 965793 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like we missed a tanebvention along the way... < 1377715399 467577 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? torus < 1377715401 519102 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Topologically, a torus is just a torus. Taneb invented them. < 1377715415 322633 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: how do you want it appended to the list? < 1377715421 957943 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebvention < 1377715424 62759 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, automatic squirrel feeders, and Go < 1377715443 520403 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: Pax6 is a gene that controls eyes and is present in the common ancestor of most animals < 1377715458 541141 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Tanebventions include D-modules, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, and Go. < 1377715463 142692 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377715464 497427 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that's what the pubmed link was about < 1377715468 682849 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebvention < 1377715470 513331 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, automatic squirrel feeders, and Go < 1377715482 509784 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like learn doesn't handle case properly < 1377715500 630584 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1377715507 842448 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cp wisdom/tanebventions wisdom/tanebvention < 1377715511 343956 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377715516 780851 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebvention < 1377715517 109209 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"PAX6 protein function is highly conserved across bilaterian species" hm < 1377715518 676755 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, and Go. < 1377715549 263101 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: it also controls photosensors in jellyfish < 1377715557 587311 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :orly < 1377715558 483899 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1377715593 94375 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the eyes developed separately but the photoreceptors had a common orgin < 1377715622 740656 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1377715626 892533 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess i was wrong then < 1377715646 506340 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION headdesks at the sight of `? ursala... < 1377715658 698277 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14602077 < 1377715690 771508 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ursala < 1377715692 899155 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​~&al?\~&ar ~&aa^&~&afahPRPfafatPJPRY+ ~&farlthlriNCSPDPDrlCS2DlrTS2J,^|J/~& ~&rt!=+ ^= ~&s+ ~&H(-+.|=&lrr;,|=&lrl;,|=≪+-, ~&rgg&& ~&irtPFXlrjrXPS; ~&lrK2tkZ2g&& ~&llrSL2rDrlPrrPljXSPTSL)+-, < 1377715721 430815 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: imagine being able to read and make sense of that < 1377715722 274662 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1377715752 373980 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is often said that energy removal can defeat a 59eye+1Mewtwo deck, but actually that is not always the case. Once I played a 59eye+1Mewtwo deck against an opponent who had four ENERGY REMOVAL and four SUPER ENERGY REMOVAL (I knew this before starting), and managed to play all eight cards, and *I still won*. < 1377715763 949475 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: tuturas have 3 eyes < 1377715766 608935 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad ass < 1377715771 765445 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc, l and r get the left and right of a pair, t and h get the tail and head of a list < 1377715776 157381 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest is gibberish < 1377715777 370055 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a tutura < 1377715840 34229 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuatara < 1377715845 767358 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck tutura < 1377715846 261783 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377715853 148866 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck tuatara < 1377715853 293486 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ursala < 1377715853 467568 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tuatara definition: a large spiny quadrupedal reptile ('''Sphenodon punctatum''') of islands off the coast of New Zealand that has a vestigial third eye in the middle of the forehead representing the pineal gland and that is the only surviving rhynchocephalian. < 1377715853 615541 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :spelling, enemy of all humankind < 1377715855 203120 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​~&al?\~&ar ~&aa^&~&afahPRPfafatPJPRY+ ~&farlthlriNCSPDPDrlCS2DlrTS2J,^|J/~& ~&rt!=+ ^= ~&s+ ~&H(-+.|=&lrr;,|=&lrl;,|=≪+-, ~&rgg&& ~&irtPFXlrjrXPS; ~&lrK2tkZ2g&& ~&llrSL2rDrlPrrPljXSPTSL)+-, < 1377715857 462346 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1377715859 207561 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck ursala < 1377715859 563455 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Software description: concise functional programming language (C). < 1377715860 475925 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1377715867 520514 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the pineal gland lizards. < 1377715878 851699 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I think I'll verbatim it, and see what happens... < 1377715890 276235 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that, or usepackage lstlistings. < 1377715911 691759 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw it's not a complete program, just the incomprehensible bits < 1377715917 834920 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a picture that shows all three eyes clearly? < 1377715921 700081 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait they have retinas and stuff :| < 1377715933 612408 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: "The parietal eye is only visible in hatchlings, which have a translucent patch at the top centre of the skull." < 1377715967 477930 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1377716008 35468 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Frog_parietal_eye.JPG here's one in a frog < 1377716061 925713 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1377716075 311720 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377716190 251562 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377716483 304808 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377716491 172494 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1377717020 745564 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a way to have ‼, but now it chokes on phở. < 1377717117 695819 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1377717378 188259 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1377717480 591484 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377717509 714357 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :As it should >_> < 1377717735 951397 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: at least it wasn't bún bò huế ¬_¬'... < 1377717748 65591 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :We take what we're given < 1377717779 906645 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«à phở donné, on ne regarde pas le bol,» or something like that. < 1377717815 112563 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377717832 139925 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used the classic babel/selectlanguage combo to wrap the entry, and now everything flows smoothly. < 1377717905 370912 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377718430 324098 :PixelToast!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377718566 95711 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377718600 187727 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377718619 216241 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1377718659 274030 :heroux!~heroux@5070816D.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377718666 217369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1377718729 182554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn you're talkative. < 1377718730 155346 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :first pass over the Wisdoms: done! < 1377718751 422119 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I had to whip out also CJKutf8 for `? wercome. < 1377718837 529503 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm missing 22 entries that I couldn't easily include (nasty unicode stuff, and or needs colourification). < 1377718874 191310 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1377718997 510457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wercome wat < 1377718998 957946 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: wercome: not found < 1377719016 446436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ wat ? wercome < 1377719018 249333 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat: エソテリックプログラミング言語のディザインとデプロイメントの国際な場所へようこそ!詳しく、ウィキを見て: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page。(他のエソテリック、irc.dal.netの#esotericへ) < 1377719089 482711 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed 's/welcome/wercome/g' bin/welcome > bin/wercome < 1377719093 734795 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377719101 36367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wercome wat now < 1377719102 27042 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/wercome: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/wercome: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1377719113 475052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/wercome < 1377719117 147371 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377719118 12608 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wercome wat now < 1377719120 508416 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat: now: エソテリックプログラミング言語のディザインとデプロイメントの国際な場所へようこそ!詳しく、ウィキを見て: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page。(他のエソテリック、irc.dal.netの#esotericへ) < 1377719400 625814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<boily> «g» and «h» covered. I also conflagrated the gaszszszpachoes. <-- wat. < 1377719440 632514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn conflagrate < 1377719442 18055 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "conflagrate" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1377719442 162755 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :conflagrate < 1377719442 162930 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : v 1: cause to start burning; "The setting sun kindled the sky < 1377719442 163086 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : with oranges and reds" [syn: {kindle}, {enkindle}, < 1377719442 163193 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : {conflagrate}, {inflame}] < 1377719443 966529 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :[4 @more lines] < 1377719467 417662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SERVED COLD YOU BARBARIAN < 1377719529 582336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/ga*cho < 1377719531 384036 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/gaspacho \ wisdom/gaszpacho \ wisdom/gazpacho \ wisdom/gazspacho < 1377719555 267137 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gaspacho < 1377719556 894165 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :You like Gazpacho and I like Gaspacho. Let's call the whole thing off! < 1377719563 860475 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gaszpacho < 1377719565 853568 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaszpacho is a polish soup, traditionally szerved cold for hot szummer days < 1377719572 161269 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gazspacho < 1377719574 173419 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :gazspacho is a hungarian szoup, tradizsonally szerved cold for hot szummer dayz < 1377719711 835137 :heroux!~heroux@5070816D.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1377719725 323550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ? gazpacho # for completeness < 1377719727 480245 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :You like Gazpacho and I like Gaspacho. Let's call the whole thing off! < 1377719733 23577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1377719796 376703 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I like conflagrating stuff, especially soups that shouldn't :D < 1377719810 202678 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU FIEND < 1377719816 500755 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MWAH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH! < 1377719824 224524 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no, I still am not insane.) < 1377719830 1586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mad < 1377719832 177498 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked. "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here." < 1377719848 88803 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. just wait a few moments while I dropbox the draft pdf... < 1377719897 615931 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1377719943 684427 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377719969 515877 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<boily> 10 MB FOR A SINGLE ENTRY. <-- did you try to include `? ngevd < 1377720001 796481 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh no, that one is perfectly fine. gave me a little trouble because of the ‼, but otherwise no problem. < 1377720018 501530 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was complaining about `? irrelevant info. < 1377720034 648361 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that `? ngevd is not identical to wisdom/ngevd any longer < 1377720053 318277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? irrelevant info < 1377720054 712878 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :KHL?%y9vnkM_v46 $Tn`ʋxkH2gqH;!;2F(zإ2CmXW < 1377720083 266659 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ll of that one gives: «-rw-r--r-- 1 boily users 10M 27 aoû 20:52 irrelevant info» < 1377720108 41322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose that may be the case. < 1377720145 344737 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :10485760 bytes, to be exact. < 1377720267 170922 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cello < 1377720269 293812 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ 4The 7high 8level 9stucture 2of 13Cello 6projects 4is 7inspired 8by 9/Haskell/, 2while 13the 6syntax 4and 7semantics 8are 9inspired 2by 13/Python/ 6and 4/Obj-C/. < 1377720278 686134 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IC < 1377720312 704667 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? but... I have content! < 1377720330 569684 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. those are colour codes like everything else... < 1377720358 16698 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. I'll do that another day. < 1377720372 483528 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? run cat wisdom/cello < 1377720374 426551 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :run cat wisdom/cello? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377720374 711770 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                           | < 1377720374 902314 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                         o/`¯º < 1377720378 719178 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat wisdom/cello < 1377720380 30358 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ 4The 7high 8level 9stucture 2of 13Cello 6projects 4is 7inspired 8by 9/Haskell/, 2while 13the 6syntax 4and 7semantics 8are 9inspired 2by 13/Python/ 6and 4/Obj-C/. < 1377720384 883774 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :egbeh. < 1377720404 338952 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377720475 212256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ord < wisdom/cello < 1377720477 401883 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377720495 162780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i suppose it breaks on the colors < 1377720501 314240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1377720512 165506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ord "`wisdom/cello`" < 1377720513 465590 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: wisdom/cello: Permission denied < 1377720517 711896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1377720522 854563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ord "`cat wisdom/cello`" < 1377720524 707625 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 52 84 104 101 32 3 55 104 105 103 104 32 3 56 108 101 118 101 108 32 3 57 115 116 117 99 116 117 114 101 32 3 50 111 102 32 3 49 51 67 101 108 108 111 32 3 54 112 114 111 106 101 99 116 115 32 3 52 105 115 32 3 55 105 110 115 112 105 114 101 100 32 3 56 98 121 32 3 57 47 72 97 115 107 101 108 108 47 44 32 3 50 119 104 105 108 101 32 3 49 51 116 1 < 1377720528 913959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run file wisdom/irrelevant* < 1377720530 685127 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/irrelevant info: data < 1377720535 216240 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thile < 1377720570 804945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh Cello is this batshit awesome thung http://libcello.org/ < 1377720607 955455 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck thile < 1377720608 316212 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Christopher Scott Thile (born February 20, 1981) is an American musician, best known as the mandolinist and a singer for the progressive acoustic trio Nickel Creek and acoustic folk/progressive bluegrass quintet the Punch Brothers. < 1377720612 217968 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck thung < 1377720612 490223 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377720631 351389 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cello < 1377720632 968395 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ 4The 7high 8level 9stucture 2of 13Cello 6projects 4is 7inspired 8by 9/Haskell/, 2while 13the 6syntax 4and 7semantics 8are 9inspired 2by 13/Python/ 6and 4/Obj-C/. < 1377720643 923502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf does it give the \ initially < 1377720657 317293 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377720705 397240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wc wisdom/cello < 1377720706 602972 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 2 22 185 wisdom/cello < 1377720722 460311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok there _are_ two lines < 1377720734 973792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tail +2 wisdom/cello < 1377720736 458323 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :tail: cannot open `+2' for reading: No such file or directory \ ==> wisdom/cello <== \ \ 4The 7high 8level 9stucture 2of 13Cello 6projects 4is 7inspired 8by 9/Haskell/, 2while 13the 6syntax 4and 7semantics 8are 9inspired 2by 13/Python/ 6and 4/Obj-C/. < 1377720744 175886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :grmbl syntax < 1377720749 710371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tail -2 wisdom/cello < 1377720751 150182 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ 4The 7high 8level 9stucture 2of 13Cello 6projects 4is 7inspired 8by 9/Haskell/, 2while 13the 6syntax 4and 7semantics 8are 9inspired 2by 13/Python/ 6and 4/Obj-C/. < 1377720756 104984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tail -1 wisdom/cello < 1377720757 445158 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​4The 7high 8level 9stucture 2of 13Cello 6projects 4is 7inspired 8by 9/Haskell/, 2while 13the 6syntax 4and 7semantics 8are 9inspired 2by 13/Python/ 6and 4/Obj-C/. < 1377720772 532808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tail -1 wisdom/cello > q; mv q wisdom/cello < 1377720776 798478 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377720786 677572 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377720826 243339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure there's a command _somewhere_ to only replace a file from a pipe once it's complete < 1377720928 660219 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: iirc, there's «sponge» to do that. can't remember where it came from... < 1377720953 984431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1377720957 530028 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which sponge < 1377720958 699677 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377720963 191118 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1377720967 431655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run which sponge < 1377720968 829799 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377720973 242034 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sponge is from moreutils < 1377720975 555014 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :moreutils is the best < 1377721001 833086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: MOAR UTILS PLZ < 1377721026 95605 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: AS STRANGE AS IT MAY BE, I AGREE WITH ØRJAN. MOAAAAAAAR! < 1377721037 658169 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Gracenotes/Gregor/ < 1377721046 980765 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also has 'parallel' (map a command over args in parallel) and 'ts' (prepend timestamp to each line of output) < 1377721051 269481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Gregor Your constant idleness ruins my jokes, also my nagging < 1377721051 414156 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377721052 540791 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really should have an intelligent autocomplete. something smarter than I. < 1377721064 763610 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pee: tee standard input to pipes" best name? < 1377721065 627146 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: nice < 1377721081 660128 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also "man pee" was not the best Google search.) < 1377721096 842796 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^___^ < 1377721097 564435 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends what you're after < 1377721099 231341 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Install it yourself. < 1377721108 288247 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH NO < 1377721140 49542 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run aptget moreutils #THIS IS THE COMMAND RIGHT? < 1377721141 378938 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: aptget: command not found < 1377721148 809252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1377721158 636251 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You forgot the dash. < 1377721167 351958 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run apt-get moreutils #THIS IS THE COMMAND RIGHT? < 1377721169 27247 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :W: Unable to read /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ - DirectoryExists (2: No such file or directory) \ E: Invalid operation moreutils < 1377721178 921892 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You also forgot the "install". Not that it'll help. < 1377721188 232004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run apt-get install moreutils #THIS IS THE COMMAND RIGHT? < 1377721191 41701 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :W: Unable to read /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ - DirectoryExists (2: No such file or directory) \ E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (2: No such file or directory) \ E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? < 1377721201 105568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1377721208 71138 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're, like, doubling the error message every iteration. < 1377721215 858594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sudo apt-get install moreutils #NOW IT WORKS RIGHT? < 1377721217 310528 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: sudo: command not found < 1377721342 103694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall last i had a machine with linux that i administered. it used rpm < 1377721383 356256 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Reverse Polish package Manager. < 1377721385 177842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :was in the glorious (read terrifying) year of 2002. < 1377721507 656057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cpressey < 1377721509 626103 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey invented the esolang, the pipe cleaner and the electrical mouse. < 1377721523 980160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/mouse/mousse/' wisdom/cpressey < 1377721527 723778 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377721532 271747 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel this is a clear improvement. < 1377721632 99727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1377721634 354069 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. monqy is its centroïd. < 1377721640 728875 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nïce < 1377721665 625381 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :take that, boily < 1377721714 876064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym boïly < 1377721745 706779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ? field #Deep < 1377721748 41604 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are two kinds of fields. Those where you can divide (except by zero), and those where you can conquer. < 1377721867 635348 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so much good wisdom < 1377721871 315959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ? firefly #Exercise: Why is this entry out of place? < 1377721873 167601 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly was a short-running but well-loved sci-fi TV series released in 2003, starring Nathan Fillion and directed and written by Joss Whedon. < 1377722025 328811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? for further details < 1377722027 167020 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1377722028 170812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? for further details. < 1377722030 65006 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :See `? for further details for futher details. < 1377722041 621314 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? for further details for futher details. < 1377722041 806027 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? for further details for futher details. < 1377722043 417470 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :See `? for further details for futher details. < 1377722043 562574 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :See `? for further details for futher details. < 1377722051 771909 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? for further details for further details. < 1377722053 535502 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :for further details for further details.? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377722053 843533 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                               | < 1377722053 995273 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                             º¯`\o < 1377722074 907538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you misspelled the entry < 1377722087 627200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which i mean, you corrected the spelling < 1377722190 191749 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, somebody is teaching an OS class using Rust: http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~evans/cs4414-fall2013/pages/ps1.html < 1377722213 643064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: also, your conflagration of gaszpacho and gazspacho misses the point < 1377722248 207264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/ga*o < 1377722249 899198 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/gaspacho \ wisdom/gaszpacho \ wisdom/gazpacho \ wisdom/gazspacho \ wisdom/gazspaczo < 1377722257 639357 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :misses all five points < 1377722266 381866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gazspaczo < 1377722268 453916 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :gazspaczo iz a hungarian szoup, tradizsonally szerved cold for hot szummer dayz < 1377722292 30683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gazspacho < 1377722294 329046 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :gazspacho is a hungarian szoup, tradizsonally szerved cold for hot szummer dayz < 1377722322 227250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/gazspacho < 1377722325 466948 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377722372 250876 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: why are all backticks replaced with ... acute accents? < 1377722374 399016 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: okay, I'll deconflagrate the gazszpachoesz. < 1377722414 436830 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :‘? boily < 1377722439 645473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: don't you mean grave < 1377722451 626965 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377722507 464327 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: according to wikipedia the acute accent is the one pointing the way it does in the pdf < 1377722559 233211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish < 1377722582 213746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was assuming you were referring to the accent you pasted < 1377722582 727754 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377722613 425344 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :acute is ´, grave is `. < 1377722654 187952 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377722659 910582 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that accent was copy-pasted from the pdf yes < 1377722675 410643 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to be doubling as an apostrophe as well? < 1377722730 275149 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1377722734 177340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? itidus20 < 1377722735 502859 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20's entry has been censored. < 1377722743 259028 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you dropped the 's < 1377722758 378027 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was voluntary. the «'s» didn't fit right. < 1377722771 626203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YUOU CENSORED IT < 1377722775 355462 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377722780 817016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i suppose that's all right then. < 1377722846 261078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ? lexer #wat < 1377722848 228160 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexer is a maximally Norwegian painter. Its squares are munched with chili sauce. < 1377722862 329889 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's true < 1377722876 978913 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :edward munch vs maximum munch rule vs sriracha sauce, iirc ... the squares, I'm not quite sure < 1377722887 145791 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: The "munching squares" display hack. < 1377722895 222196 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Are you reading all of the wisdom. (All of it.) < 1377722924 357874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all that boily has included in the pdf. < 1377722982 383055 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I did not see a PDF. I see it now. < 1377722989 21941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...where does the sriracha sauce fit in < 1377723016 278981 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea. < 1377723062 334320 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps this is the fault of google translate somehow. < 1377723068 834965 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems anything even mentioned on the same day risks getting munched into the next wisdom entry < 1377723085 28222 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's from WordNet. < 1377723087 556166 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn munch < 1377723088 815041 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "munch" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1377723088 959805 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Munch < 1377723088 959981 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: Norwegian painter (1863-1944) [syn: {Munch}, {Edvard < 1377723088 960126 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Munch}] < 1377723088 960246 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: a large bite; "he tried to talk between munches on the < 1377723090 816289 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :[3 @more lines] < 1377723092 65547 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1377723092 838773 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : sandwich" < 1377723094 824869 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : v 1: chew noisily; "The children crunched the celery sticks" < 1377723096 821774 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [syn: {crunch}, {munch}] < 1377723102 426245 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe not. < 1377723117 260842 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, some of it was. < 1377723122 297973 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how/why did royal steaks get into the chess wisdom? < 1377723156 478775 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, sriracha sauce was a topic right around the same time indeed. < 1377723169 632338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: via discussing why you don't capture the king in chess iirc. anyway it was just the other day. < 1377723186 884517 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked something about sriracha sauce vaguely around the time there was talk about munching, but I don't remember how it got mixed in < 1377723196 526640 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, but how the steaks? < 1377723220 141531 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :*whence them? < 1377723277 265888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you can blame boily. < 1377723290 971956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also it was just yesterday.) < 1377723392 739084 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this is all part of boily denying going insane fwiw < 1377723397 551104 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I do remember :) I wondered just as much about it back then < 1377723445 873036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was guessing it was a pun, which is why i googled and found monarch steak house but i don't know if that's really a widespread concept. < 1377723616 633163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ? mojibake #Did boily really get this one right < 1377723618 967506 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :mojibake _ÌÌÌ°_ÌÌ̦̻ͭͭͬÌÍÌÌÍ¡_ͧÍÌÍÌ­_ÍÍÍͧÍÌÌ̯Í̬̬̦̯_ÌÌÌͨÌÌ´Í < 1377723625 149339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1377723645 745140 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there might've been a few encoding problems on the way < 1377723671 72889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYHAPS < 1377723680 794665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? morphism < 1377723682 738192 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morphisms are just elements of the Hom-set of a pair of objects. < 1377723687 608240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: missed the s < 1377723718 904674 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I get the same mojibake as in the PDF, good job there < 1377723898 487745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the pho entry misses the bold < 1377723916 871366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's obvious < 1377723984 188340 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? LaTeX < 1377723985 924449 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :LaTeX? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377723986 223282 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1377723986 378756 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          o/`¯º < 1377723989 307950 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well crap < 1377723995 308913 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pouti < 1377723996 894099 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pouti is boily's brother. he's also Canadian, and he closes the Roujo pointer loop. < 1377724005 810442 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I had the bold, but changin the font to mathpazo screwed it. < 1377724037 297165 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the mojibake entry was hand-tweaked. the broken pipe, ¬ and ¯ caused some problems. < 1377724038 656049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Poutine was Pouti and boily's sister until the tragic cheese accident. < 1377724041 528679 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377724048 423115 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have a sister??? < 1377724083 996230 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Had." < 1377724134 73245 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do you have something called pgf available in your tex environment? apparently it has a random number generator < 1377724169 598350 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. as used here to solve a completely different problem http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/41850) < 1377724233 837816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? right < 1377724235 406405 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377724245 511129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file wisdom/right < 1377724246 738603 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/right: empty < 1377724286 874611 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run touch wisdom/output < 1377724289 417848 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? output < 1377724290 770008 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377724292 400895 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377724295 162661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Right is not two wrongs but three lefts. < 1377724299 257516 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377724305 475278 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? xyzzy < 1377724307 231275 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :xyzzy? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377724307 518320 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1377724307 682392 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          º¯`\o < 1377724338 340046 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn xyzzy is Nothing happens < 1377724342 652825 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377724392 99958 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ? sgeolang #Out of date? < 1377724394 58842 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeolang currently is either J or Io. < 1377724436 63620 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1377724439 822969 :PixelToast!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :dan200 < 1377724475 939279 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of date. it's active worlds now < 1377724492 387785 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a PostScript file you'd presumably optimally have a different ngevd output every time you view it. (If you can get some entropy in there.) < 1377724506 329397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? szoup < 1377724508 231464 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :A szoup a szilárd tápszereknek híg alakban való elkészítése a célból, hogy könnyebben emészthetők legyenek; a hígító anyag a viz, mely feloldja s magába veszi a tápanyag legértékesebb részeit. < 1377724518 621668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's not a language < 1377724527 907878 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes! that's even better than doing it at TeX time < 1377724537 84366 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it probably doesn't work in pdfs? < 1377724581 423658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is suspicious of that lone s < 1377724582 269738 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure it doesn't. < 1377724602 474828 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't pdfs have javascript support nowadays? < 1377724606 882004 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :*don't < 1377724630 943700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it's in the original wikipedia entry < 1377724645 516239 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm struggling with recursive \newcommand. what I want to achieve is to define a \newcolor{lightblue}{0.8,0.8,1} in the preamble, then have \lightblue{12this is coloured} in the text. < 1377724650 634741 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can embed some Flash in it, I think. < 1377724656 481065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is itself a quote. < 1377724666 830763 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also some JavaScript too. < 1377724678 986794 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably all quite Adobe-only. < 1377724802 293784 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: russian has lone s and lone v < 1377724809 618470 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lone k < 1377724853 773148 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning with, in, by, respectively; i think < 1377724904 506543 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think w is something like and in polish < 1377724905 153986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know. < 1377724953 91176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hungarian isn't slavic, although surrounded by slavic languages < 1377724965 428242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nearly surrounded < 1377724978 958095 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently а, б, в, ж, и, к, о, с, у, я are all valid single-letter words in russian < 1377724998 27403 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a b v zh i k o s u ya) < 1377725176 177181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<boily> ~eval foldl1 max [5, 6, 8] < 1377725178 351042 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377725186 451599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> maximum [5,6,8] < 1377725187 577054 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 8 < 1377725191 765074 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: DID IT < 1377725196 930640 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1377725213 805043 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You jumper-to-conclusions you. < 1377725241 216835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my short term memory is not good enough to wait until i've read all the logs. < 1377725308 62367 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could write all your comments to a file, and then paste it all at a time when you've finished. < 1377725328 925952 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1377725341 425103 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes? < 1377725377 256838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<boily> move along. nobody saw nothing. <-- OKAY < 1377725812 522937 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUS TIME < 1377725813 300903 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1377725815 653648 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAR TIME < 1377725828 520805 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRAAAAAIN TIME < 1377725829 125033 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUS is-a CAR. < 1377725848 261047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :class CatBus : public Cat, public Bus < 1377725848 641642 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here it's more like BUS has-many CAR < 1377725869 650053 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :class Bus extends Car implements PublicTransit < 1377725877 236780 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot the recursive newcommand. < 1377725877 595271 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: pro. already haue i bin false to valentine, and viola in mans attire. < 1377725932 397580 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are boily and fungot going to second level meditation? < 1377725933 32815 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: mess. my lord, you are too proud to yield her city for one little breach; should be divorced from her earthly spouse by the soft temper of a french man's sword? lo, to repair some other hour shall tell thee, farewell. < 1377725946 760834 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In re TRAINS: "In Scandinavia the Kiruna to Narvik railway carries iron ore from the mines in Kiruna in the north of Sweden down to the port of Narvik in Norway to this day. The rail cars are full of thousands of tons of iron ore on the way down to Narvik, and these trains generate large amounts of electricity by their regenerative braking. From Riksgränsen on the national border to the Port ... < 1377725953 295657 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... of Narvik, the trains use only a fifth of the power they regenerate. The regenerated energy is sufficient to power the empty trains back up to the national border.[9] Any excess energy from the railway is pumped into the power grid to supply homes and businesses in the region, and the railway is a net generator of electricity." < 1377725961 401230 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck yeah! < 1377725995 538618 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to make trains economical: fill them with ore. makes sense < 1377726012 981214 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you like trains you should join #cslounge-trains maybe < 1377726018 389950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to tell them about this now < 1377726039 51530 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do tell them it was a Wikipedia quote, so you never know about reliability. < 1377726040 738998 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1377726042 924972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1377726044 438751 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[9] is another Wikipedia page. < 1377726049 275659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't find the same quote on Wikipedia < 1377726060 516183 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regenerative_brake < 1377726129 955301 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much energy does it take to bring the ore out of the mine to put it on the train though? < 1377726153 7443 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though that other page has a real citation, just not one available online -- "Næss, Per (3 August 2007). "Evighetsmaskiner". Fremover (in Norwegian). p. 28.") < 1377726174 229420 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume "Evighetsmaskiner" refers to a perpetual motion machine? < 1377726176 46918 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: eh, the romans could manage it, i'm sure swedes can < 1377726228 634958 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hccf-8BYaDg best perpetual machine song?) < 1377726242 288705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ewige blumenkraft! < 1377726276 264918 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's a Finnish version of the song, too.) < 1377726341 983555 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's about a university professor being interviewed.) < 1377726342 571275 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, what's its name? < 1377726396 11044 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: "Fixu vekotin" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5AM2eUriS0 < 1377726398 97576 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I think there is almost no electric freight rail in the USA < 1377726478 511558 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was one railroad that dismantled their electrification to sell it for fast cash... just as the price of copper plummeted and fuel skyrocketed < 1377726542 451387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<olsner> looks like learn doesn't handle case properly <-- yes it does. now plural on the other hand... < 1377726557 525612 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it `? that does s then? < 1377726561 886471 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cello < 1377726563 986251 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​4The 7high 8level 9stucture 2of 13Cello 6projects 4is 7inspired 8by 9/Haskell/, 2while 13the 6syntax 4and 7semantics 8are 9inspired 2by 13/Python/ 6and 4/Obj-C/. < 1377726628 206538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<fizzie> (Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hccf-8BYaDg best perpetual machine song?) <-- yes. i've linked it here before. < 1377726644 482965 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1377726829 22059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott suggested making `learn do plurals the other day. < 1377726830 982610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"See also: - Swedish iron ore during World War II - Heaviest trains" < 1377726878 726163 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the yellow may be a little bit aggressive, but colours work! < 1377726925 329401 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377726966 663319 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? colour < 1377726968 572190 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​14C12101103o1106lour is 10a 1202p04henomenon 0810fr07om13 ou0211t050803e11r 1313s1302p04ace 13de0503sign02e13d0511 t101010o140913 d1304ri08v02e 10h12um081206an04i02ty i07110214ns0709a0804ne an0614d 11bri0813ng f13or08th t02he n10ew05 0212age14 of Cth0211u1409l030610hu. < 1377726974 610345 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377726983 752113 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat98.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1377726986 434871 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1377726992 860560 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one is going to be nasty. I'll have to have to do a script for that... < 1377727078 729068 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the link autoupgrades itself... < 1377727099 109973 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup! < 1377727112 493102 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: colourful cello in the pdf! < 1377727151 417874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1377727336 930584 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the solution to the \newcommand in the \newcommand isn't exactly what I had in mind, but it works, and the end result is probably easier to autogenerate. < 1377727362 886533 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, I haven't found a way to define a command whose name isn't yet known, and that can accept arguments. < 1377727561 828596 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night all! feel free to deconstruct the PDF. < 1377727563 778505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/tanebventions < 1377727567 309308 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377727571 475911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(redundant) < 1377727587 185890 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the pdf. not the db itself. < 1377727594 357140 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the PEEDEEÈÈÈÈÈFEUH! < 1377727606 970060 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've lost the url for the moment. < 1377727621 558120 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :about 280 replies earlier. < 1377727635 305375 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: I AM NOT INSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAÁÁÁÁÁNE! < 1377727636 739629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow IE's logs doesn't include it. < 1377727655 992858 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377727663 898117 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1377727672 259405 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377727946 94805 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well found it < 1377728449 327253 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377728516 479356 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377728584 347270 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377730003 36410 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1377730475 886234 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_categories_that_do_not_contain_themselves < 1377730499 694147 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas < 1377730516 881020 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mediawiki's real failing is in allowing naïve quantification < 1377730522 702396 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377730573 967596 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377730762 276847 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377730965 319549 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377731035 524150 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1377732031 569596 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377732520 322543 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377732782 832340 :nooodl!~nooodl@196.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1377733125 477348 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377733530 176688 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1377733901 406906 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone have any particular recommendations as far as password management/generation programs and the like go? cross-platform is desirable of course, as is some form of mobile support (though not required) < 1377733972 805799 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lastpass is a thing, I think? < 1377734063 882557 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: a piece of paper hth < 1377734139 302172 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yeah, I looked at it but I'm a bit wary of using a closed-source application for this kind of thing... especially since they've apparently already had a security breach :p < 1377734178 19800 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been looking at KeePass/KeePassX which look pretty good, but I dunno < 1377734522 190183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah STXTRM's | command fails to work nicely with [] nesting :( < 1377734589 707069 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought i could wrap up an easy TC proof < 1377734848 830114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still think the Fueue method can be ported, even without | < 1377735053 707979 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think people in ##crypto have strong opinions about this stuff < 1377735169 342952 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah but that sounds scary :P < 1377735205 675118 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*join* "how awful is keepass" "IT'S SHIT AND SO ARE YOU" < 1377735211 625215 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ my impression of any channel I've never been in < 1377735266 126886 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :accurate impression < 1377735335 242509 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also feels kind of like joining #haskell to ask if xmonad is any good < 1377735354 414713 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do people do that < 1377735359 844033 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. probably. < 1377735378 952246 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1377735389 163917 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you could look through the logs I guess < 1377735469 240688 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should just become a god capable of memorising twenty 32-character passwords like every other nerd on the planet apparently is < 1377735521 142045 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just forget them all constantly and then get back on based on your taking the time to call an underpaid intern at the organization. < 1377735530 571871 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :works every time. < 1377735554 488904 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, yes, is this esolangs.org support, I appear to have forgotten my wiki admin password < 1377735562 869102 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1377735946 789953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: This will end well. < 1377738009 522985 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1377738716 280435 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377739512 32225 :dan200!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377739688 777449 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377739719 137538 :nys!~YXWX@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1377740872 514983 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377742061 39373 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377742267 429916 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1377742269 361598 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 NICK :nooodl < 1377743827 5545 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377743941 774498 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish Rebol was as popular as Tcl < 1377743971 890803 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :People have done pretty amazing things with Tcl, but I think Rebol is a better language < 1377744018 614777 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377748709 447237 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Alas. < 1377750411 429370 :heroux!~heroux@5070823c.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377750964 578557 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377751549 281054 :heroux!~heroux@5070823c.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1377751598 413580 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377751861 511855 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: have you looked into Rebol? < 1377751903 900138 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1377751959 164464 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377752070 997837 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377753869 821760 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377753916 56517 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377753926 366503 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377757684 346042 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377757908 87323 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377758325 711978 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Excess Flood < 1377758513 297562 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1377759630 404353 :nys!~YXWX@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1377760860 333924 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377761092 625459 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377762063 431148 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377763785 922438 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1377763957 641476 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377764014 180596 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377764964 420439 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377767782 976620 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377772401 443117 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1377773744 6076 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: function password { echo -n "> " && read -rs pw && echo -n "$pw" | sha1sum | head -c 40 && echo } < 1377773846 553443 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems less than optimal < 1377773860 92879 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's amazingly portable < 1377775867 361628 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377777010 227074 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377777252 110549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1377777511 428541 :oussama!~yes@203.81.249.38 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377777565 32201 :oussama!~yes@203.81.249.38 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377777908 397621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought osama was dead < 1377779534 330783 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377779722 206250 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377779732 924512 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377779743 68146 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good deconstruction morning! < 1377779805 36146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was your particular purpose in making that statement, and what does it say about your mother? < 1377780264 93217 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was enquiring about your collective comments on the Yesterday PDF, and I'm going to see her next weekend. < 1377780291 332808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1377780300 913007 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377780361 868392 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, and why the eliza this morning? < 1377780444 931454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just being deconstructive < 1377783235 870101 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :say, do you interpret dreams? < 1377783377 556178 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had one the other night that left me very confused. I was spinning an explosive corncob on a submerged theater scene, and I have no clue in fungot about what it means. < 1377783377 890878 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ros. with a good will; i can tell you, and after go fnord hence, fnord and i know not < 1377783418 924177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is being mysterious about it as usual < 1377783419 341761 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: all. dan diddle dan. o hapless fortune! let me clip ye in armes as sound, as things that are knowne alike, which master catesby here forth will pay ye. < 1377783430 244683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1377783430 389624 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss* wp youtube < 1377783505 130121 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all dan diddle dan diddle ooooooh! < 1377783512 267 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style fisher < 1377783512 162400 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: fisher (Fisher corpus of transcribed telephone conversations) < 1377783827 297588 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: apparently Montréalers like to chat: http://www.reddit.com/r/montreal/comments/1lbt8n/how_to_chat_with_other_redditors_from_montreal/ < 1377783866 375540 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377784225 301994 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377784522 304600 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1377785837 20368 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377786923 271257 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net TOPIC #esoteric :Hexham/Helsinki/Lachine axis | 22nd IOCCC: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q | comment on the wisdom PDF! https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric hth < 1377786964 872838 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I added a title page (from a template), and a small foreword. < 1377786982 711545 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist (915) < 1377786988 194945 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist (915): shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1377786989 632183 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still need to insert the colourful and incomprehensible entries. < 1377787465 950748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, i might be starting to dislike tarquin a tiny bit. < 1377787501 575676 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck tarquin < 1377787501 998083 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377787518 345032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1377787522 666186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the `olist) < 1377787650 253195 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: tarquin is a kind of sweet sesame pudding < 1377787687 290001 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: like halva? < 1377787700 990596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very much like halva < 1377787705 114915 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sesame has many forms < 1377787708 84661 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(all evil) < 1377787788 2922 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... what of sesame on sushi? < 1377787947 980621 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :suchi is much better off without it < 1377787992 487422 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck suchi < 1377787992 840486 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1377788007 90552 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck salmon < 1377788007 541649 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :salmon definition: a large anadromous salmonid fish ('''Salmo salar''') of the North Atlantic noted as a game and food fish called also '''Atlantic salmon'''. < 1377788019 258590 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION and metasepia glare at Koen_ “Such a lack of taste... you plebeian” < 1377788029 81988 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck tuna < 1377788029 439665 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tuna definition: any of various flat-jointed prickly pears (genus '''Opuntia'''); '''especially'''. < 1377788036 265237 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck tunafish < 1377788036 651415 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A tuna is a saltwater finfish that belongs to the tribe Thunnini, a sub-grouping of the mackerel family (Scombridae)  which together with the tunas, also includes the bonitos, mackerels, and Spanish mackerels. < 1377788133 875848 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you know, in japanese restaurants in paris they usually have carpaccio de saumon de provence on their menu < 1377788167 502895 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: nice! completely unauthentic, but nevertheless nice. < 1377788210 662619 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :here we get the usual american fare, meaning all variations on maki, but the sushi joints are nearly all tended by south-east asians or chinese people. < 1377788283 514051 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus, in AYCE buffets you can get garlic beef tenderloin, thai style udon, fishballs, miso soup, fried shrimps, fish heads (apparently the eyes are good)... < 1377788319 848106 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we get the obverse: in korean grills you can order sushi plates too :D < 1377788328 657339 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I'm pretty sure all asiatic restaurants in my hometown belong to the same family < 1377788355 16813 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a very profitable model: sale your restaurant to your nephew, evade taxes, buy it back later. < 1377788389 885001 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I extrapolated and decided there was only one family in asia < 1377788452 407531 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're all 李, except when they're nguyễn. < 1377788729 865572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: yeah the genghises < 1377788768 193866 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you know them too? < 1377788787 551542 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've read about them < 1377789098 1021 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you not have any thai places < 1377789099 686794 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo tragic. < 1377789231 19656 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: outside of the rampant Thaï Express and Thaï Zone (poor quality fast-food pseudo Thai chains), there are what... only a handful of real joints? < 1377789248 702133 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: do you have experience with thai restaurants on the island? < 1377789259 812056 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :chains usually suck anyway though... < 1377789324 635100 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily, there's one near our offices that has incredible pad thai. otherwise, you need to go to chinese restaurants downtown. < 1377789367 359002 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. looks like Roujo is dead... < 1377789393 677237 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Roujo ARRÊTE DE FAIRE L'IDLE, INFÂME ET ODIEUX PERSONNAGE QUE TU ES! :D < 1377789393 864251 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377789472 638174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :incredible bad thai, check < 1377789817 546947 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: bad experience with thai food? < 1377789991 654481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i can recall. the vietnamese restaurant we had in trondheim some years ago wasn't anything to celebrate, though. < 1377790695 311039 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377790717 643131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Itj færra nålles! < 1377791014 995743 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan «Itj færra nålles!» ← Is that an hth loophole abuse? < 1377791015 140397 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377791212 661059 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377791212 843872 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Client Quit < 1377791236 247251 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377791508 966531 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377791722 538849 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a coworker pointed out that `? duoids is absent from the list. < 1377792257 313557 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this queue-based paradigm would do something such that main() { a(); b(); } a() { c(); d(); } b() { e(); f(); } would be executed as main() a() b() c() d() e() f() < 1377792413 933096 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :say, a program is a sequence of statements < 1377792430 842935 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a statement is either a minimal statement (let's call that an axiom), or a function < 1377792444 159224 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a function is itself a sequence of statements < 1377792481 656063 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the beginning of execution, the sequence of statement that constitute the program is in a (FIFO) queue < 1377792513 730852 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and execution consists in dequeuing the first element, executing it if it's an atom, or appending its content to the queue if it's a function < 1377792675 521233 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what I'm gonna try to get a password and write that down on the wiki < 1377792895 996771 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A reminder e-mail has been sent. " < 1377792903 647214 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure I believe you, computer < 1377793296 545217 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :'morning < 1377793305 12744 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1377793305 196060 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 1h 5m 11s ago: ARRÊTE DE FAIRE L'IDLE, INFÂME ET ODIEUX PERSONNAGE QUE TU ES! :D < 1377793309 79371 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1377793338 782913 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Off-island, yeah. Inochi, à Vaudreuil. < 1377793367 654107 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :On island... no. I know a Japanese place or two, but no Thai. < 1377793375 417242 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, except Thai Express >_> < 1377793438 742363 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp < 1377793442 529412 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily ARRÊTE DE FAIRE L'IDLE, INFÂME ET ODIEUX PERSONNAGE QUE TU ES! :D < 1377793442 674446 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377793826 935697 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I look at my emails and I GOT A NEW EMAIL on the right account < 1377793853 144796 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :turned out it's an agora-discussion digest and not a fresh password for esolangs < 1377793994 349164 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: it is a gmail address. < 1377794002 486446 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and starts with ltn < 1377794003 456608 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is < 1377794016 52025 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe I broke password emails < 1377794030 152316 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they worked one week ago < 1377794038 739831 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tests. < 1377794041 409034 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I remember it didn't work on the first try but I finally got a new password < 1377794043 549520 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I upgraded PHP since < 1377794051 438618 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and messed with mail stuff < 1377794060 153103 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I got an email but it went to spam. < 1377794063 63362 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so check there. < 1377794068 59183 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have spam < 1377794122 614020 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use thunderbird and it usually gets all the emails, including those that would appear into spam if I used gmail's page < 1377794125 336164 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1377794125 501624 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Changing host < 1377794125 646826 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett JOIN :#esoteric < 1377794135 985353 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I suggest double-checking :p < 1377794173 501806 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I'm about to do < 1377794183 26221 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I did received last week's email < 1377794197 686297 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also remembering my gmail password for that account is hard < 1377794210 33761 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did receive* < 1377794260 353796 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PART :#esoteric < 1377794516 427436 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK GMAIL < 1377794520 379577 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thank you for your help < 1377794551 709278 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not supposed to do that anyway < 1377794626 585523 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1377794691 845399 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377795178 142782 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: I can just reset the password if you want. < 1377795187 222663 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that's okay it worked < 1377795197 453581 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was indeed in the spam filter < 1377795211 32923 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now I feel like an idiot for not checking there earlier, but it's the first time it does that! < 1377795232 765373 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually I don't care what's in the spam folder because I don't have such a folder when using thunderbird < 1377795251 936359 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :buuuut for some reason thunderbird didn't take that message < 1377795414 286955 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang stuff wasn't spam filtered before. I should fix it if I can (but I won't). < 1377795604 481721 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should but you wouldn't, you can but you shan't < 1377795721 84055 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: j'ai le droit d'idler comme je veux. c'est mon heure de dîner! nah! < 1377795735 614427 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Pfff =P < 1377795798 527302 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: the pulled pork sandwich, it was scrumptious ☺ < 1377795817 337888 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: That's... odd. Someone in another channel was just commenting on that. < 1377795852 969759 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: was he at the «Dépanneur le Pick-up»? < 1377795864 751225 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: He lives in the US. So meh. =P < 1377795867 908359 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh. < 1377795872 439659 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I think e does, anyway < 1377795881 718622 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you ask him the The Question? < 1377795885 531590 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really < 1377795891 717862 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't ask most people The Questiön < 1377795899 199067 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it's pretty much esolang related, right? < 1377795912 341443 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a point. < 1377795914 151558 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who cares about the CoM of randome peopl? < 1377795920 824810 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? peopl < 1377795922 754540 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :peopl? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377795923 69509 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1377795923 220339 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          o/`¯º < 1377795932 810351 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa < 1377795941 757936 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how that e moved all the way over there < 1377795963 633607 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why I nail my lettërs down, so that they don't move. < 1377795995 75870 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good call < 1377796032 496743 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, by the way - while learning myself a haskell might be for great good, I decided I should work instead =P < 1377796042 717800 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that Project is Paused < 1377796341 652185 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know you have learned haskell when your first impulse in the morning is to write a monad tutorial before breakfast. < 1377796412 431319 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thus conclude that I have not < 1377796428 25352 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's mostly because I don't see any use in it, I guess < 1377796450 51930 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'd be learning it for fun < 1377796464 227736 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there are already other languages in that queue =P < 1377799481 279200 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377799487 998373 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377800000 788216 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B02DEDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1377800076 854637 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome KingOfKarlsruhe < 1377800079 975658 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​03KingOfKarlsruh06e: Welcome t07o the internationa06l hub 04for esoteri11c program09ming 02la11nguage des09ign and 06deployment! For05 08more informatio10n, chec11k out 06our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wik08i/M14ain_Page. (F06or t02he14 other07 kind 02of eso06terica12, try 12#e03soteric on irc.da14l.07n05et.) < 1377800110 461031 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B02DEDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe omg a highlight in esoteric < 1377800123 657875 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1377800396 80703 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can insert a Linear B goat, but not the unicode character. sometimes LaTeX is really infuriating. < 1377800477 738196 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got back into LaTeX this morning ^^ < 1377800485 107149 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has to make a nice help document < 1377800506 343671 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I took the opportunity to make a pun using math symbols - I love math + LaTeX < 1377800555 876275 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how often people write linear b in latex < 1377800601 90666 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 🐐 < 1377800603 275105 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​🐐 <(Unicode goat laments your inability to render Unicode goat.) < 1377800615 769230 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :𐂈𐂉 < 1377800621 368270 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1377800632 775690 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I fix this? < 1377800635 994664 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Add more fonts? =P < 1377800645 155048 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :add more goats < 1377800658 64908 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: harken to olsner's advice. < 1377800671 976516 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chrome has teleported all of mine >_> < 1377800727 184118 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377800782 617467 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1377800852 815902 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? t̵ͦiͭme͡ < 1377800854 667119 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ t̵ͦiͭme͡ ? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377800854 982118 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                 | < 1377800855 161714 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               º¯`\o < 1377800860 842559 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? t̵ͦiͭme͡ < 1377800862 986901 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :t̵ͦiͭme͡ S͖̀l̘̿͟o̯ͥwl̀͠y̮ ̥g̅eṱ̉҉ţi͊͡n̅ğ̨̺ ͫw͖ͭor͡s̯ęͣ < 1377800892 28361 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay. bear with me for a moment there. HOW CAN I LATEX THAT? AAAAAAAAAAAH!. < 1377800907 111843 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ < 1377800909 56821 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377800909 410438 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               | < 1377800909 584475 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             o/`¯º < 1377800914 420877 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well crap < 1377800920 932710 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That broke myndzi on my end < 1377801260 155840 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you latexing boily < 1377801451 941105 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: how did you handle `? ngevd? < 1377801551 964422 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: look at the topic ↑ < 1377801571 813521 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I used the secret hidden file, not the real ngevdism. < 1377801594 785886 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's disappointing < 1377801596 24559 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about `? nooodl < 1377801603 431079 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think some people suggested an RNG for generating the entry dynamically) < 1377801607 732249 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooodl < 1377801609 491326 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl is the correct spelling < 1377801612 393339 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooodl < 1377801614 183537 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooodl is the correct spelling < 1377801616 964238 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1377801631 642241 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :help i'm laughing so hard at the first page < 1377801632 225278 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: well, same as the Ngevd Circumventing Workaround. < 1377801696 205670 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377802091 793886 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't there an entry with an unicode keyboard? I can't seem to find it... < 1377802533 436703 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? morphism < 1377802535 349270 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morphisms are just elements of the Hom-set of a pair of objects. < 1377802551 177939 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: your pdf says "morphism are just elements..." < 1377802577 721949 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bc < 1377802579 864807 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bc ௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵ < 1377802607 693278 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pdf seems to be missing something there < 1377802616 875672 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: ah? lemme check. < 1377802621 999501 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a good entry < 1377802636 254646 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I went for a compromise for that one. piped through od, a little bit of formatting, and that's it. < 1377802647 297482 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the missing s on morphism was reported yesterday already (!) < 1377802650 60839 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, I could have printed out a bunch of squares, but that'd be boring. < 1377802655 419554 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: bleh. < 1377802674 274725 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there. the morphisms are plural now. < 1377802678 809411 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :tex doesn't have ௵? < 1377802682 643654 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my weechat is completely borked. < 1377802707 949790 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it shows up as an unknown character in my terminal. < 1377802723 910903 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. tamil. < 1377802771 458774 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0BF5 Tamil year sign, apparently < 1377802796 320226 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pho isn't bolded properly < 1377802812 349446 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I'll tamilify bc, then. < 1377802820 862983 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: working on that. missing font shapes... < 1377802866 576454 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: phantom_+hoover needs code formatting for the HTML, and the qdb rules for the excerpt examples! and quit. for the /quit < 1377802980 87336 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: hm. easier said than done. I have to go through itrans, it seems. < 1377803043 597009 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I tried to dodge having to do with lstlistings, but seems I have no choice. same thing for the qdb rules (probably just a \texttt{} for those). what about the /quit? < 1377803045 181089 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps there should be an appendix with notes about just how horrible it is to get the stuff into tex < 1377803071 622091 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I'll have a complaints chapter at the end. some entries are just plain vile. < 1377803116 703559 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: also, I think the last entry in the pdf is misglyphed. < 1377803207 452069 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and one of the gashpachos is a *polish* szoup, that should be disflagrated from the hungarian one < 1377803233 159520 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh! the enveloppy keyboard! I knew there was one there. < 1377803245 237164 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yeah, working on the disflagration. < 1377803259 803603 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1377803261 399295 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377803261 695287 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        | < 1377803261 871735 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69      o/`¯º < 1377803310 861130 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks hth < 1377803312 248516 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, hth. Tth. < 1377803322 904971 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn disflagrate v.t.: a traditional technique from Poland (earliest attestation c. 1042) used to separate szoups. Nowadays, commercial production is entirely mechanized. < 1377803323 434082 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My brother just asked for help using GIMP < 1377803326 930184 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377803333 862992 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :His exact question was, "where was the tool for the pictures?" < 1377803342 450001 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The Neverending Work is what boily is going through trying to map entries that are being put in at the same time. < 1377803347 13606 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377803357 152305 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the < 1377803359 177652 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Neverending Work is what boily is going through trying to map entries that are being put in at the same time. < 1377803364 332747 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELP < 1377803375 656558 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry about that < 1377803377 702753 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll let y'all fix that. my weechat is REALLY borked. < 1377803413 145001 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should make use of the fact that hackego has a hg repo that you can track for changes (once you manage to catch up with any revision of it) < 1377803487 363925 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :asdf < 1377803489 804706 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :qwer < 1377803491 803970 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zxcv < 1377803500 670109 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry for the noise. trying to make the bad stuff scroll up...) < 1377803528 745240 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems that the bc line is really nasty... < 1377803538 61196 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? LaTeX < 1377803539 875593 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :LaTeX? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377803540 233323 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1377803540 400620 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          o/`¯º < 1377803559 748413 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn LaTeX is \end{document} < 1377803563 938771 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377803588 408574 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: テメ〜〜〜〜〜ッ!!! < 1377803598 457846 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure `? bc is proper unicode though ... does it break your client just because it's not present in your font? < 1377803618 773279 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I don't even < 1377803644 762468 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: bc is correct finally. the brokenness happened earlier. < 1377803645 50720 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is escaping tex code hard in tex? < 1377803670 701213 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: translation: «Toé mon espèce de...» < 1377803674 62346 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1377803687 462238 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: mostly not < 1377803697 666737 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: not really. it was just one another attempt at making my job even more difficult. < 1377803906 549694 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is toé < 1377803919 990782 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? toé < 1377803921 915053 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :toé? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377803922 238590 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          | < 1377803922 411955 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        º¯`\o < 1377803930 360189 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess it doesn't real, then. < 1377804061 509254 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn LaTeX is \textbackslash textbackslash begin\textbackslash \{document\textbackslash \} < 1377804065 770663 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377804118 622772 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :tex quine? < 1377804214 536300 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really < 1377804220 105357 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just an escaped escaped sequence < 1377804303 290246 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, it seems that people think tex quines should write themselves to tex's standard output or to a new tex file on disk, rather than into the typeset result < 1377804354 592506 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1377804457 661292 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never thought "people" had an opinion regarding tex quines < 1377804520 30392 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: toé is vernacular oral Québécois French for «toi», otherwise known as “you”. < 1377804538 376649 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's what i expected < 1377804538 711660 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? people < 1377804540 259329 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :people? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377804540 549911 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1377804540 723712 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           º¯`\o < 1377804546 11603 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck people < 1377804546 359864 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people definition: '''plural''' human beings making up a group or assembly or linked by a common interest. < 1377804570 323912 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1377804570 554638 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :québécois est effrayant < 1377804605 159651 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :'''plural'''. < 1377804648 27615 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: bin wéyons dont. ça se peut tu dire des affaires de même. < 1377804679 147142 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: at least it's not an “'''especially'''”. < 1377804747 532928 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: huh, reading québécois french feels exactly like reading french back when i couldn't read french < 1377804834 28005 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :L'affaire, c'est qu'ça dépend en masse du niveau d'language que'l gars utilise < 1377804842 930925 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :que l'gars* < 1377804891 489871 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :watche tes apostrophes, le monde pourraient s'mêler avec des patentes écrites mal amanchées. < 1377804958 650596 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(me d'mande comment que google translate est capable de traduire ça.) < 1377804991 899464 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :le monde pourraient s'mêler? is that google translate? < 1377805041 413247 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this exchange was readable up until "patentes écrites mal amanchées" but maybe those are actual french words who knows < 1377805062 328175 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: «le monde» is plural this side of the Great Atlantic Puddle. < 1377805071 558233 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT < 1377805082 685216 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: «patente»: thingamabob. «mal»: bad. «amanchées»: eeeeeh... let me think about that one. < 1377805095 125928 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: I confirm "écrites" and "mal" are actual french words < 1377805118 670798 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :écrites francais mal < 1377805128 969190 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: like in the expression: «le monde sont caves icitte ça a pas d'allure.» < 1377805139 199502 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yup :D < 1377805143 998410 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no no < 1377805149 40996 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes yes yes! < 1377805156 232240 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :mal mal mal < 1377805165 999431 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember when i said québécois est effrayant? < 1377805173 319163 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out it is... très effrayant < 1377805182 3444 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Effrayant en maudit, oui < 1377805214 802616 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: It's not plural, don't worry =P < 1377805218 489986 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«amancher» v.t.: to fit, to join together, usually in a hackish manner (probably involving some duct tape). to say that something is «mal amanché» means that it's shoddy, and threatens to collapse at any given moment. < 1377805234 402273 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1377805237 160133 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not officially, anyway < 1377805248 621943 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, le monde sont cave < 1377805259 919672 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the world is a cave? < 1377805267 683238 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, people are stupid < 1377805272 665561 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is effrayé < 1377805273 390068 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather: effrayant de câlice < 1377805283 130083 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: dumb, as like a caveman. < 1377805286 391235 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Effrayant en calisse < 1377805291 584810 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1377805301 460745 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: check your prepositions! < 1377805302 915784 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew that wouldn't be an actual thing < 1377805339 542122 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: en to start, de to chain. like an applicative functor, <$> at the beginning, then <*> between every sacre. < 1377805432 947966 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, I lstlisted the Twenty Underscores Phantom Hoover. < 1377805459 963 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you write "effrayant en câlice de crisse de tabarnak" as "(|effrayant câlice crisse tabarnak|)" using the montréal québécois enhancement? < 1377805542 418198 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why not. < 1377805581 381228 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the phở refuses to be emboldened. < 1377805616 510820 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the .tex file public? < 1377805670 43925 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nearly. < 1377805695 218775 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... no? < 1377805773 82848 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just created a private github repo. could make it public if you want too. < 1377805991 702307 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't private github cost money or something? < 1377806030 322789 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes. I already have a plan for private repos for other projects, so it's not an issue. < 1377806082 560673 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: I guess your github account is nooodl? < 1377806090 484344 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1377806101 369584 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are now a collaborator. < 1377806118 438209 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool! < 1377806123 686500 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel free to deconstruct and butcher and flblblblbwobble the whole thing. < 1377806144 586992 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like a punctured balloon captured on a hi-speed video camera) < 1377806197 967039 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they should use the term "coconspirator" instead of "collaborator" on GitHub. < 1377806313 738594 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "A cocoonspirator is a collaborator wrapped in catterpillar silk" >wisdom/cocoonspirator < 1377806317 474792 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377806408 614935 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did we broke `learn < 1377806430 967062 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377806459 932682 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: that's the Recommended Best Practice to have an entry that doesn't start with the defined word. < 1377806472 136215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1377806549 892379 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :breaking `learn is the Recommended Best Practice? < 1377806556 214717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1377806556 359373 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 4h 19m 1s ago: «Itj færra nålles!» ← Is that an hth loophole abuse? < 1377806562 192151 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you think I'd buy that < 1377806571 271523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i don't think so < 1377806631 41272 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: yes. < 1377806633 97543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DID SOMEONE BREAK `learn < 1377806652 83178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language is that < 1377806654 168542 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, that's just Koen_ who's being a tad paranoïd after a head-first encounter with Québécois. < 1377806662 329876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1377806700 926309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: your french frenchness is too anomalous in this channel. have you considered emigrating to canada, belgium or switzerland? < 1377806712 962200 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if you suspect the person you're facing is Québécoiste, the Recommended Best Practice is to quietly move backwards until you're no longer facing em < 1377806719 845114 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad diaeresis < 1377806733 533120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: wouldn't it be quicker to just turn around < 1377806741 644912 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: blëh. < 1377806741 969285 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I lived near the border with switzerland for two years < 1377806755 978994 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :błəh < 1377806772 876947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the thing boily quoted is norwegian dialect. < 1377806774 434229 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the people there were all about pronouncing 90 "nonante" instead of our fancy "quatre-vingt dix" < 1377806788 777863 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1377806791 305207 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: disgusting. < 1377806808 57732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear the belgians do the same < 1377806808 264313 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which dialect? < 1377806846 226045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: southern trøndelag, where trondheim is. (northern would be "fårrå" instead hth.) < 1377806879 723397 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it really is an hth loophole. < 1377806917 750828 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: we classy french people have three irregular fancy numbers; 70 is soixante-dix, 80 is quatre-vingt, 90 is quatre-vingt dix < 1377806943 716541 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from what I understand, belgian have regular unfancy words for two of those numbers, and swiss people for all three < 1377806945 749908 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the opposite < 1377806946 270711 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastquote quatre-vingt < 1377806947 581497 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta love those celts < 1377806949 417562 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it's one and three < 1377806950 561037 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pastquote: not found < 1377806960 512923 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequote quatre-vingt < 1377806962 406736 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pastequote: not found < 1377806963 667110 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat pastquote > pastquote < 1377806975 225749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the thing is, no one can explain exactly what "nålles" means so it _might_ be a hth loophole or not. < 1377806977 305142 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I suggest not insulting a swiss (or belgian) by suggesting he might have all three when he's got only one or two < 1377806980 317593 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION bludgeons HackEgo with a hammer shark < 1377806994 976592 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: subtle. I like your technique. < 1377807044 778088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: i do know how to count in (french) french < 1377807070 445657 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but do you know how to count in swiss and how to count in belgian? < 1377807079 797643 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you tell swiss appart of belgian? < 1377807091 695861 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean despite the german accent < 1377807126 245764 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377807143 449684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's generally interpreted something like "take care" or "godspeed" though. < 1377807255 937824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i've heard about the septante, huitante and nonante or thereabouts thing but i didn't know there were subtleties in how many were used < 1377807321 110185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you may be looking for pastequotes < 1377807365 714121 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the middle might be octante i'm not sure < 1377807424 975984 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was octante < 1377807433 622631 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe that's yet another difference between belgian and swiss < 1377807456 134243 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right you said that already < 1377807458 764786 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :octante fell into disuse, and is now the bastardized huitante. < 1377807475 313174 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use huit-dix < 1377807490 792838 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that japanese french? < 1377807507 675715 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mayhaps < 1377807523 27359 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: 本当に日本人じゃないか? < 1377807568 366987 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: なに? < 1377807571 723476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :octo and octaginta are the original latin for 8 and 80, so it's just a matter of when/where you apply weird sound changes i think < 1377807587 699283 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: sûr que t'es pas un japonais? < 1377807596 879762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, *octoginta < 1377807604 440197 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Pretty sure, yeah < 1377807605 426206 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1377807619 882001 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: t'est Québecois, oui? < 1377807626 105938 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the current DCSS challenge on /r/roguelikes is ascending with an OpTm. < 1377807639 538700 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: mon père est un Tremblay. pas mal certain que oui :D < 1377807671 814216 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: haha. ##CanadaPolitics < 1377807689 388178 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what's an optm < 1377807717 484964 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: fuggedaboutit. no way I'm immiscing myself into Canadian Politics. < 1377807722 784351 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1377807726 224000 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :waaaaay too dangerous. < 1377807734 260057 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: octopode transmuter. < 1377807787 500083 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1377807809 312517 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1377807809 767575 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 292000Z 02007KT 15SM FEW025 24/18 A3003 RMK CU2 SLP168 DENSITY ALT 1000FT < 1377807833 626834 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :belgians say quatre-vingt < 1377807851 772908 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most sane people do < 1377807855 631739 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :much better than yesterday, and the looming CU2 may summon some water to water my plants. < 1377807883 648724 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~apparently~ they say septante and nonante in wallonia but here in flanders we get explicitly taught not to use them. < 1377807883 862701 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1377807895 20560 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm used to quatre-vingt-dix etc. < 1377807942 635710 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: isn't that a rebel politics "okay, learning french is vital because half our country speaks french, but there's no way we're gonna learn THEIR french" < 1377807956 729003 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet it is! < 1377807958 479767 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :noodl: what do they use for eighty? < 1377807971 993996 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quatre-vingt < 1377807994 33898 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should all say «eightyante». it's modern, trendy, and horrendous. < 1377808003 430668 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh crap < 1377808008 446644 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? help < 1377808009 452067 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are cool but should be illegal < 1377808010 143183 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :missed the bus? < 1377808013 90614 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1377808026 973857 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have broken the bot < 1377808029 419899 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Terribly sorry < 1377808031 496724 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=( < 1377808035 260935 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hello < 1377808036 517008 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are cool but should be illegal < 1377808038 861059 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? everything < 1377808040 34415 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are cool but should be illegal < 1377808041 846854 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is beautfiul < 1377808052 91794 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: wow. that doesn't happen often. < 1377808081 676364 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kind of makes your LaTeX job easier < 1377808087 785468 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you overwrite /bin/cat < 1377808104 856232 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, I got the path wrong or something < 1377808112 877224 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: easier, but much longer. now I need to define everything! < 1377808132 158484 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat /bin/cat < 1377808133 381232 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are cool but should be illegal < 1377808136 416552 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1377808140 817626 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1377808144 71285 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1377808146 251733 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1377808146 614881 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooooh < 1377808149 669438 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's nice < 1377808151 790465 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? roujo < 1377808153 125284 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are cool but should be illegal < 1377808156 185531 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1377808158 811520 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1377808164 467310 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? roujo < 1377808165 746598 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are cool but should be illegal < 1377808172 988537 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1377808175 307563 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1377808176 763657 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? roujo < 1377808178 284622 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are cool but should be illegal < 1377808179 694938 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1377808182 771732 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1377808184 94735 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? roujo < 1377808184 324235 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1377808185 424252 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are cool but should be illegal < 1377808187 402626 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So sorry < 1377808191 751131 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: heh :D < 1377808193 643151 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1377808196 136065 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1377808198 620277 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? roujo < 1377808199 964499 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are cool but should be illegal < 1377808203 932147 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1377808207 21208 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cats ARE cool but should be illegal < 1377808209 425127 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1377808212 240378 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1377808212 933283 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll go revert that in private, then < 1377808219 380314 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hi hi ^^ < 1377808227 783792 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? roujo < 1377808229 214365 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are cool but should be illegal < 1377808262 847522 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow my latex doesn't support japanese fonts ;_; < 1377808283 638647 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You guys have noticed you keep wobbling between two revisions, right? < 1377808286 746476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: boily: i don't think `revert is cumulative. for anything more than the last change you need to look up the repository commit number. < 1377808290 347711 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a `vert command to go to the next commit in time? < 1377808296 527887 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i suspected that < 1377808296 987563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*revision < 1377808298 499524 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: woops. < 1377808301 635186 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :devert? < 1377808301 790696 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is the repo? I'll look it up and fix it =/ < 1377808305 698738 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1377808305 894665 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1377808314 57141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :last there < 1377808320 526583 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright < 1377808320 748400 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? roujo < 1377808323 448560 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll get right on it < 1377808333 131441 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is snubbing me. < 1377808351 621957 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377808353 255655 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wanna go back here http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/rev/f6f3d9626c03 < 1377808361 227786 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1377808362 371166 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert f6f3d9626c03 < 1377808365 846502 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1377808376 115807 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realize that `ls cut off < 1377808376 620602 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? you < 1377808378 543268 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :you a haskell < 1377808393 190857 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And generally goofed, methinks < 1377808399 373993 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, guys < 1377808429 425100 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no no! don't feel sorry! < 1377808437 123993 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: replacing every single entry with "Cats are cool but should be illegal" might actually have been an enhancement to the wisdomdb. < 1377808445 149194 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the first time I seen somebody break HackEgo! < 1377808476 287279 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not exactly what I did, though. I just `run echo Cats are cool > /hackenv/bin/cat < 1377808476 492274 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? roujo < 1377808478 428231 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo is a Java heretic leaning on ungrammatical Haskell. His claim to Canadianness is marred by an unholy portal to China. The treaties suffer, so the cocktail will be postponed. < 1377808479 15962 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(`run rm -rf /) < 1377808482 378139 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'll ask again < 1377808488 176847 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did someone break `learn ? < 1377808489 59753 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which overrided /bin/cat, which is fine < 1377808495 260406 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: nah. nobody did. < 1377808513 238122 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then catted over important stuff >_> < 1377808529 829519 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: besides, it's illegal. < 1377808530 931562 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<Roujo> Which overrided /bin/cat, which is fine <-- imo this probably isn't fine < 1377808538 326307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: i think simply `rm bin/cat would have fixed it too < 1377808542 388593 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, temporarily < 1377808552 800412 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was waiting for someone to notice it < 1377808561 757266 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then I broke more stuff < 1377808565 342551 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1377808593 563226 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: you can always use the absolute path to get to the /bin ones. < 1377808628 401964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, we have already overridden `ls on purpose. < 1377808854 362849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to occasionally check the repository history, but i've been too lazy recently. < 1377808906 338137 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey just out of curiosity is it a common practice to add a directory of your own, say ~/bin, to PATH in a terminal? so you can have your programs accessible as commands < 1377808917 538855 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1377808934 110070 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes to the end instead of the front of PATH, though. < 1377808975 506391 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I thought it would be more prudent to add it to the end < 1377809000 896686 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also having it, say, as ~/local/bin, lets you install e.g. autoconf'd stuff in there with ./configure --prefix=$HOME/local.) < 1377809026 89088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've got it at the beginning, by the default setup at nvg's servers < 1377809027 706993 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure I get the subtlety of that < 1377809073 371122 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I mean, if you install something with --prefix=$HOME, you end up with ugly ~/lib, ~/share and whatnot. < 1377809106 85259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: if you're not root, and want to compensate for something being broken, then you definitely would want it at the beginning i think. < 1377809112 942274 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1377809118 955801 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1377809141 46829 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I should put it at the end on my personal computer and at the beginning on my session at school? < 1377809149 585618 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds reasonable < 1377809154 344259 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it mostly depends on what you want to put there. < 1377809155 313976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um this is not official guidance :P < 1377809165 483611 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could even put one directory in front and another in back. < 1377809202 389810 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1377809222 401221 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :weeeeeell right now random functions I think are cool to have accessible in the shell < 1377809226 974519 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like fibonacci or whatever < 1377809228 750824 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "~/local as an installation prefix" is often compounded with LD_LIBRARY_PATH of ~/local/lib, and maybe a PKG_CONFIG_PATH of ~/local/lib/pkgconfig, and assorted other such environment variables. < 1377809238 889022 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing terribly useful yet < 1377809241 807102 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377809247 34277 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i've been using "alias" all my life < 1377809265 660473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alias is cool too < 1377809269 811748 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of adding stuff to PATH i'd make an alias for it < 1377809303 764808 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I make aliases for stuff I'm too lazy to write < 1377809317 457309 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like gccw for gcc -Wall -Wextra -Werror < 1377809533 297554 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1377809537 847473 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377809544 572428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh i actually have irssi as an alias, because the setup here is such that the PATH contains first a directory with a much older version. or at least did when i made the alias. or maybe it was simply broken, i don't quite remember. < 1377809625 531253 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remnants of simpler times < 1377809689 508414 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather remnants of the university developing its own multi-os package system way back in the 90's, which now on nvg's servers competes with the usual linux packages and are earlier in the PATH < 1377809719 277476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*and is < 1377809775 774464 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is not, i suspect, very well maintained any longer. < 1377810382 36520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 🐐 < 1377810384 105868 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​🐐 <(Unicode goat laments your inability to render Unicode goat.) < 1377810389 988657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I RENDER IT JUST FINE < 1377810406 380361 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are all unicode goats square? < 1377810416 207745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does a little dance. very small, as he can't be bothered to get up off the sofa. < 1377810435 686443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm i guess it _might_ be missing its back legs. < 1377810441 409612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike in my browser. < 1377810490 878243 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377810643 136253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, fileformat.info doesn't recognize the goat < 1377810817 297557 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :all computable functions are differentiable, right? < 1377810897 419246 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I don't think so? < 1377810919 951425 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1377811004 4116 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(x : Rational) if the denominator of the simplest form of x then 1 else 0 < 1377811031 470251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1377811033 493110 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377811034 288872 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        | < 1377811034 433601 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69      o/`¯º < 1377811036 533064 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weierstrass_function that's computable, right? < 1377811042 518619 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, differentiable on R i mean < 1377811048 824194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: absolute value function is a counterexample < 1377811072 610584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't there use to be a `? `? entry < 1377811079 393062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom/`? < 1377811081 228222 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/`? < 1377811095 550406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...it exists. < 1377811107 618047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1377811107 818495 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1377811114 813002 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :absolute value isn't computable is it < 1377811140 94121 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but neither is equality < 1377811147 763248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's computable for computable reals < 1377811182 84200 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :abs actually is, though < 1377811202 855060 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh? < 1377811206 826024 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except on zero?) < 1377811208 194284 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `! < 1377811209 950720 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`!? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377811210 444446 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         | < 1377811210 589237 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69       º¯`\o < 1377811218 611783 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1377811223 754854 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? /o/ < 1377811224 12450 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1377811224 157146 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            /| < 1377811225 569642 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/o/? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377811226 89242 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  |       | < 1377811226 233896 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 /'\    º¯`\o < 1377811227 781056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: subtle. maybe too subtle. < 1377811322 571103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the thing is, you don't actually need to test equality to 0 for the absolute value. < 1377811356 717117 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do need to establish whether a number is nonpositive or nonnegative though < 1377811361 915697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1377811397 91312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to establish _either_ x < epsilon or x > -epsilon for epsilon your asked for accuracy level. < 1377811403 879786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can do that. < 1377811436 901336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, or maybe epsilon/2 < 1377811449 186700 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yes, and if x=0 both of those will be false for any epsilon < 1377811462 806815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: NO. < 1377811469 424036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're both true. < 1377811476 472766 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...right < 1377811486 972155 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's what i meant!) < 1377811507 569057 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh, i think i see it now < 1377811558 240282 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :abs(x) is _itself_ a function < 1377811577 699540 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1377811762 335825 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :help what is computability even < 1377811819 518251 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bull shit < 1377811821 74993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: you mean in general, or for reals? < 1377811838 903545 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fo' realz yo. < 1377811864 523869 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i don't know if weierstrass is computable < 1377811879 568063 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't even think of a continuous uncomputable function < 1377811936 370572 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computable_real_function is it this kind of computable < 1377811991 654054 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you even prove some function is uncomputable < 1377812000 976815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: wtf < 1377812003 179 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :reduce it to the halting problem? < 1377812029 92123 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377812029 236915 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_undecidable_problems or I guess any of these < 1377812037 243462 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm guessing almost all of those were proven by reduction to the halting problem? < 1377812053 727308 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be easier < 1377812063 536930 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, the indicator function for 0 is uncomputable < 1377812069 610314 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :indicator? < 1377812078 26733 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(0) = 1, f(anything else) = 0 < 1377812081 138986 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1377812095 771804 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that uncomputable for other nujmbers other than zero? like < 1377812099 925168 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(1) = 1, f(anything else) = 0 < 1377812103 655013 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1377812121 579379 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you need infinite accuracy to determine if two numbers are equal < 1377812127 522581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: i don't see the point of that sequence stuff... < 1377812141 510612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess there are subtleties. < 1377812144 10246 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but doesn't that mean that it's O(N) in the size of the input? < 1377812145 674072 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems pretty computable < 1377812170 147783 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "size of the input" as in digits, you mean? < 1377812175 350999 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that ain't gonna fly with pi < 1377812180 530233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expect weierstrass is computable, anyway. < 1377812188 11268 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1377812198 394613 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1377812203 236466 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand, sorry >_< < 1377812211 588276 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, what did you mean by "the size of the input" < 1377812221 675745 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um... in data? any representation you want I guess? >_< < 1377812228 932421 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a turing machine that takes an input and generates output < 1377812252 449026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which input are you talking about < 1377812260 970280 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, say your computable function is f(n) = the nth digit of the real < 1377812284 177452 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could say that a real number is an infinite stream of bits or something < 1377812288 577204 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"1.000000000000.....1" < 1377812289 927534 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1377812293 836946 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, accidental up-enter < 1377812316 80241 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry I guess I just don't really get why it's not computable if you have to read the input to generate an output... < 1377812323 943216 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by that logic, like, sorting an array isn't computable... < 1377812324 906928 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a computable real _number_ is basically a function which gives you for any n a rational number within 1/n of it. < 1377812337 305609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: well, the function has to check whether its input is equal to 1 < 1377812349 256866 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it has to read N digits of its input < 1377812352 26726 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it answers your question? < 1377812354 153709 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's N? < 1377812358 701128 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the size of your input... < 1377812365 545580 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The input is an infinite stream of bits. < 1377812370 776202 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that.... that doesn't make any sense < 1377812376 434309 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by that logic sorting isn't computable!! < 1377812386 384446 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the size of an infinite stream? < 1377812388 569792 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :real numbers don't make sense hth < 1377812394 919986 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if your input is an infinite stream of bits, you can't sort it either < 1377812401 34338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: computable real numbers are programs, not simple data. < 1377812404 344767 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man how are real numbers even defined < 1377812409 981018 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never spent a whole lot of time thinking about this < 1377812411 457376 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: dedekind cuts < 1377812419 553262 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or cauchy sequences. < 1377812434 290598 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Well, how often do you sort the bits in a number? < 1377812437 61746 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: well, yes, why would sorting an infinite stream be computable? < 1377812438 742477 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377812444 946076 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... sorting isn't computable either... < 1377812447 892953 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um... is anything computable? < 1377812448 480275 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a /finite/ stream is doable, of course < 1377812463 18777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots of things are computable. < 1377812464 183105 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess things with no dependency on input are computable... < 1377812466 506653 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: sorting is computable, sorting the digits of an arbitrary real (a very different and kind of weird operation) not so much < 1377812467 663549 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1377812471 375545 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I didn't say that ._. < 1377812481 506124 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just said... sorting an input < 1377812483 706899 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do things within any particular precision you want. < 1377812496 31663 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah nevermind everyone's just ignoring me... < 1377812497 986783 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: You can't even in general check whether two real numbers are equal. < 1377812514 786827 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So things like sorting are a problem. < 1377812524 967583 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: sorting is computable actually, but you have to do it by computing maxima and minima _instead_ of testing for < = > < 1377812555 474800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort [a, b] = [min a b, max a b] < 1377812576 71989 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are we doing now < 1377812589 909649 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :annoying fiora with three explanations of different things at once < 1377812590 471069 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, well, OK. < 1377812600 559590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: i'm showing that sorting a list of computable real numbers is computable, even though you cannot compare them. < 1377812605 926161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*finite list < 1377812611 915679 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what about a stable sort hth < 1377812618 960620 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is dead < 1377812622 965280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sorry, no deal. < 1377812624 947389 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :long live something else < 1377812640 74601 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw I thought of a continuous function which is almost everywhere uncomputable < 1377812645 196411 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah? < 1377812650 729724 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a triangle wave is continuous right? (not differentiable though) < 1377812653 717127 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(x) = x? < 1377812659 211056 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1377812660 413851 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I mean even on computable inputs < 1377812664 641722 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1377812680 901232 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah < 1377812684 665588 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so say that the function on [n,n+1] is a triangle up to +1 if the nth turing machine halts, and a triangle down to -1 if it doesn't < 1377812686 826804 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, it's almost everywhere differentiable < 1377812708 145299 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :diabolical < 1377812719 633411 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good function < 1377812721 981687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1377812731 329691 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :could easily make it everywhere differentiable, too < 1377812737 710268 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1377812772 666719 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i guess you could just integrate that) < 1377812897 634256 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so wait is the weirstrass function computable < 1377812907 225283 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the blancmange function is better anyway < 1377812911 901704 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1377812920 850936 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377813198 166799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm, there's a simpler example of a continuous function that is nowhere computable: the function f(x) = c where c is any uncomputable real. < 1377813208 170092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1377813255 508240 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp. < 1377813278 40672 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i was literally thinking of that but i thought it was too obvious and i don't know anything about this stuff anyway < 1377813335 354377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc's function has, i think, the advantage that it's rational for rational numbers, so sort of the opposite of this. < 1377813724 920332 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: the weierstrass function is defined as a uniformly convergent sequence of computable functions where you can with low complexity calculate all the bounds involved, i'm pretty sure it must be computable. < 1377813736 438124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*convergent series < 1377813741 441296 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why blancmange is better! < 1377814018 934022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: the graphical construction section seems to imply that blancmange is the sum of a series of triangle waves, so i'll hazard a guess it's computable just the same. < 1377814191 663246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? disflagrate < 1377814193 703403 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :disflagrate v.t.: a traditional technique from Poland (earliest attestation c. 1042) used to separate szoups. Nowadays, commercial production is entirely mechanized. < 1377814222 807756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/:/perf.:/' wisdom/disflagrate < 1377814226 543577 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377814254 381928 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1377814265 309054 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1377814276 852251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is the resident polish here nowadays < 1377814469 181412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and boily is gone too < 1377814564 187367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask <Taneb> His exact question was, "where was the tool for the pictures?" <-- are you sure you haven't beat his head too much < 1377814564 331993 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377814806 25308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? latex < 1377814807 995516 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :LaTeX is extbackslash textbackslash begin extbackslash \{document extbackslash \} < 1377814818 730704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :womp womp < 1377814827 801846 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1377814832 725561 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\t < 1377814844 736622 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/latex < 1377814845 679553 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :LaTeX is extbackslash textbackslash begin extbackslash \{document extbackslash \} < 1377814875 18137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/learn < 1377814876 267442 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | sed 's/ .*//' | lowercase) \ info=$(echo "$1" | sed 's/[^ ]* //') \ echo "$1" >"wisdom/$topic" \ echo "I knew that." < 1377814887 626992 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/\t/\\t/g' wisdom/latex < 1377814891 374766 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377814895 546925 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? latex < 1377814897 446218 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :LaTeX is \textbackslash textbackslash begin\textbackslash \{document\textbackslash \} < 1377814947 769347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "t\test" < 1377814949 187819 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :t\test < 1377814993 201134 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what's the point of that info= < 1377815061 448660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ttest \ttest < 1377815065 825614 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377815070 12709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ttest < 1377815072 94134 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttest test < 1377815468 777641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/echo/echo -E/g' bin/learn < 1377815472 45418 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377815476 165544 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ttest \ttest < 1377815480 905722 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-E I knew that. < 1377815485 661239 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ff < 1377815521 428330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ttest < 1377815523 525447 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttest test < 1377815542 392768 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/learn < 1377815543 778071 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo -E "$1" | sed 's/ .*//' | lowercase) \ info=$(echo -E "$1" | sed 's/[^ ]* //') \ echo -E "$1" >"wisdom/$topic" \ echo -E "I knew that." < 1377815632 773389 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 205a23bbf2a5 < 1377815634 893901 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1377815832 793587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -E "what\\tnow" < 1377815834 383380 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :what\tnow < 1377815847 825031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1377815852 511718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1377815855 445598 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1377815878 154522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sed -i '1s/sh/bash/' bin/learn < 1377815879 407675 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: sed [OPTION]... {script-only-if-no-other-script} [input-file]... \ \ -n, --quiet, --silent \ suppress automatic printing of pattern space \ -e script, --expression=script \ add the script to the commands to be executed \ -f script-file, --file=script-file \ add the contents of script- < 1377815886 949486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '1s/sh/bash/' bin/learn < 1377815890 268429 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377815896 707745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ttest \ttest < 1377815901 557181 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377815906 580862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ttest < 1377815908 721001 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttest \ttest < 1377815916 328840 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<oerjan> Phantom__Hoover: the graphical construction section seems to imply that blancmange is the sum of a series of triangle waves, so i'll hazard a guess it's computable just the same. < 1377815921 275518 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at oerjan, at clock, back at oerjan < 1377815933 505207 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's just a sum of all the 2-to-the-nth sawtooths < 1377815934 925468 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377815945 76794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm wisdom/{ttest,-e} < 1377815949 33 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377815955 292655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what? < 1377815978 899653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1377816006 837010 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/ -E//' bin/learn < 1377816010 685527 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377816015 832285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ttest \ttest < 1377816020 541367 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377816028 381645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/ -E//' bin/learn < 1377816029 644534 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377816032 698716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ttest \ttest < 1377816034 456353 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1377816039 357181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/learn < 1377816040 597777 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | sed 's/ .*//' | lowercase) \ info=$(echo "$1" | sed 's/[^ ]* //') \ echo "$1" >"wisdom/$topic" \ echo "I knew that." < 1377816050 909759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ttest < 1377816052 325979 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttest \ttest < 1377816066 990032 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just, you've been doing this for twenty minutes now < 1377816067 134818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok the option was unnecessary, it's just bash instead of sh < 1377816098 985141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/ttest < 1377816102 394539 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377816199 911060 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377816215 566319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well yes, i'm not very good at understanding why shells do stupid things. < 1377816697 698826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the < 1377816699 879988 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Neverending Work is what boily is going through trying to map entries that are being put in at the same time. < 1377816715 141969 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"My friend and mentor Sam Treiman liked to relate his experience of how, during World War II, the U.S. Army responded to the challenge of training a large number of radio engineers starting with very different levels of preparation, ranging down to near zero. They designed a crash course for it, which Sam took. In the training manual, the first chapter was devoted to Ohm’s three laws. Ohm’s first law is V = IR. Ohm’s second law is I = V/R. I’ < 1377816718 301107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/the{, neverending work} < 1377816719 869520 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: target `work}' is not a directory < 1377816725 818933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1377816746 205173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/the{,' neverending work'} < 1377816749 466963 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377816761 250680 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the < 1377816763 240588 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :the? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377816763 541267 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          | < 1377816763 685853 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        o/`¯º < 1377816768 56399 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the neverending work < 1377816769 830396 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Neverending Work is what boily is going through trying to map entries that are being put in at the same time. < 1377816818 123357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you got cut off at I = V/R. I' < 1377816838 49474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*’ < 1377816895 875319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i've been recommended the splitlong irssi script < 1377816898 92767 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ll leave it to you to reconstruct Ohm's third law. < 1377816916 501053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: /script load splitlong.pl hth < 1377816939 617019 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ctcp bike version < 1377816941 301196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that doesn't make it permanent i think < 1377816945 279557 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: So... what did I sublty do? < 1377816954 123523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1377816956 81029 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377816956 391116 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        | < 1377816956 559586 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69      º¯`\o < 1377816968 376941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: that's very subtly different from undefined < 1377816978 69260 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm, i don't remember doing anything else < 1377817009 155597 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes ^^ < 1377817028 106808 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? xyzzy < 1377817030 114355 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :xyzzy is Nothing happens < 1377817032 618002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: huh, i recall being told to put it into some directories and stuff. < 1377817032 766671 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1377817044 678387 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Nothing happens wisdom/xyzzy < 1377817046 118770 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing happens wisdom/xyzzy < 1377817047 907458 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1377817052 657695 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Nothing happens. > wisdom/xyzzy < 1377817056 424580 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377817059 847327 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? xyzzy < 1377817061 792669 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing happens. < 1377817063 780875 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1377817067 945868 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cat < 1377817069 690445 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377817069 998866 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          | < 1377817070 188953 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        º¯`\o < 1377817074 365330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and made an autorun link to itself < 1377817097 733403 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Cats are cool, but should be illegal. > wisdom/cat < 1377817101 202877 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377817112 747371 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` < 1377817113 953381 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `: not found < 1377817116 481691 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww < 1377817522 578991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: please comment on realism of this http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/130829.html < 1377817854 228307 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377817937 88517 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cat < 1377817939 241996 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are cool, but should be illegal. < 1377818023 865332 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377818032 834624 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B02DEDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0.1/20130814063812] < 1377818081 608176 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377818232 684198 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, there aren't any lizards in scotland, saint andrew drove them all away < 1377818239 435694 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he'd get spotted immediately on that basis < 1377818772 865136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1377818833 499415 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :dan200 < 1377818987 42375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i take it they got swapped with the irish snakes. < 1377819341 665284 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377819559 743792 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377820321 650561 :dan200!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :^v < 1377820372 660674 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377821825 430765 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one interesting thing about natural languages is that less surprising information is placed towards the beginning of a sentence, and more surprising towards the end < 1377821843 930578 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that actually true in general < 1377821873 817807 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is that actually a property of languages or simply a human propensity to express surprise in a, well, surprising manner < 1377821875 672439 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this might be an attempt to smooth out the bit of information conveyed per secend < 1377821906 861912 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or simply because of the amount of buildup required to deliver a surprise means that changing the order of the sentence won't move the surprise < 1377821946 871383 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork, or it might be one of the three alternate explanations just presented < 1377821964 324135 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there data involved here < 1377821974 529808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this true of japanese which has a lot in the opposite order of western languages < 1377821982 880401 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaiu < 1377822279 214074 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: japanese is in topic comment order is indeed different from english's subject predicate order < 1377822306 759832 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what I"m talking about are the situations where there is more than one phasing availible < 1377822365 968495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1377822450 358100 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "the cub scouts will hold the car wash despite the rain" vs "despite the rain the car wash will still be held by the cub scouts" vs "the car wash will still be held by the cubscouts despite the rain" < 1377822489 278416 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they communicate the same thing but seem to imply a different preceding conversation < 1377822497 67234 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^each < 1377822533 467649 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter does not sound any less natural to me < 1377822550 830689 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, except in that i'd expect it to be phrased "despite the rain the cub scouts will still hold the car wash" < 1377822606 155088 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're right that is more natural < 1377822726 793540 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :were you expecting the latter to sound less natural? < 1377822812 802100 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well like you've given an example but you've done nothing to convince me that this supposed effect favours the former phrasing < 1377822848 11040 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :different phrasings would be favored in different situations < 1377822850 90294 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, seriously, does this effect actually exist < 1377823041 806771 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: it will take me awhile to find you a citation because it was in my textbook < 1377823358 779787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :great, nvidia GL library seems to map itself with rwx permissions < 1377823367 314953 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuckers < 1377823400 238039 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork, (sorry, but with linguistics especially people keep presenting dumb armchair speculation) < 1377823402 350790 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1377823407 702436 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ditto phantom < 1377823425 849762 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :information content of language is an interesting thing but rather easy to fuck up < 1377823440 22474 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/1l7baq/creating_a_user_from_the_web_problem/ < 1377823453 278997 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :still good < 1377823498 549153 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can find a prescriptive recomendation to put old knowledge first, but I haven't found proof that that is what people do in natural speach < 1377823523 538807 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it sounds like the kind of thing that would take a big corpus and a lot of boring interpretation by human researches < 1377823534 21707 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :researches* not that linguists don't do that, i mean < 1377823551 966134 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1377823615 287989 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, gold < 1377823637 939186 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most baffling part of that link is that there are serious, helpful responses < 1377823682 94233 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe that people put the old information first when ordering clauses, as much as the syntax of their language allows. < 1377823892 860385 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because a professor of linguistics assumed so, and because it seems a reasonable thing for people to do for a variety of reasons. < 1377823931 151387 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see that's a pretty broad claim < 1377823974 740971 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and I don't have the statistical tools to prove it < 1377823978 616178 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially the 'as much as the syntax allows' part < 1377824063 763055 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :english has quite fixed word order, so some orderings that would work in spanish are not natural english sentences < 1377824180 895513 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377824291 22706 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now this is just depressing, in a 'failing to learn' way < 1377824291 839319 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/1l7baq/creating_a_user_from_the_web_problem/cbwj0r2 < 1377824302 615772 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're actually reading it < 1377824331 480749 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should try this http://www.dvwa.co.uk/ < 1377824771 50895 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: no proof here either but references to people who first assumed it http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2012/applying-information-theory-to-linguistics-1010.html < 1377824837 757563 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1377824861 778597 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's positively lovely how bad these sorts of articles always are < 1377824869 403079 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"information theory — the discipline that gave us digital communication" < 1377824877 689069 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me Bike < 1377824886 554822 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how common are puns on "PNAS" < 1377824905 557870 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think most people make the one and kind of give up after that < 1377824908 281828 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just, too obvious. < 1377824958 425757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any Coq papers in PNAS < 1377825010 590489 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think th- oh, i get it < 1377825019 138334 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::☺) < 1377825109 503294 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :« our “open-source” large-scale (∼1 L/h) 129Xe polarizer for clinical, preclinical, and materials NMR and MRI research» i love the future < 1377825170 951244 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's an L < 1377825179 872275 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um i have no idea. < 1377825208 748846 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.pnas.org/content/110/35/14150.abstract < 1377825221 145267 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a paper called "Core foundations of abstract geometry" that isn't math. awesome. < 1377825233 706117 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it about Core Foundation < 1377825258 726051 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :psychology < 1377825268 899181 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so it's basically about maths < 1377825276 512696 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1377825359 772385 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In this study, we performed continuous electroencephalography in rats undergoing experimental cardiac arrest " jesus christ < 1377825380 23364 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :has science gone too far < 1377825404 381755 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :those cute little rats!! < 1377825445 497596 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c'mon man, not even ancaps deserve a fate like that < 1377825480 657565 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you suggesting i give ancaps heart attacks to see what their brains do < 1377825538 932636 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377825541 862329 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377825557 924628 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377825759 347352 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd imagine ancaps would be more fun to put in a large labyrinth with various resources. < 1377825785 277072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming it's the abbreviation i think it is < 1377825901 718700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this guy can head the project http://girlgenius.wikia.com/wiki/Doctor_Mittelmind < 1377826149 977872 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine you'd end up with a grimmer eve online < 1377826175 147054 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mittelmind is one of my favorite characters < 1377826607 471657 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377827026 798874 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1377827097 507279 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377827132 592294 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1377827466 792124 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377828513 25926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1377829155 249509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/keepassx/+bug/1214844 *facepalm* < 1377829284 564497 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377829285 205450 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1377829296 676647 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any characters in your password that are not found in codepage 1252 are silently squashed to '?' < 1377829309 758721 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats fucking hilarious < 1377829379 554217 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :variable < 1377829451 296289 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slaps variable with a trout < 1377829466 511042 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :my twin! < 1377829493 608713 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(({("XSRX;GSA@uGS0Xd;]"):gsub("(.)",function(c) return string.char(49+((string.byte(c)*1337)%75)):gsub("_"," ") end)})[1].." "):rep(20) < 1377829493 788991 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : <-- put this into a lua prompt < 1377829504 281228 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i maed some obufuscated lua cod < 1377829579 13832 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377830437 925506 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1377830538 181225 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Skimming an old report on Snobol" at least someone on the internet understands me. < 1377830621 360326 :monotone_!~monotone@room208.org NICK :polytone < 1377831966 203726 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377832186 726095 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1377832187 190328 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ideone.com/jw9i6s < 1377832190 812682 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't seem to do much < 1377832219 364463 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaddya mean, it says returned zero right there < 1377832288 196158 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfectly respectable thing to return < 1377832438 554684 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, gsub apparently treats string patterns as, well, literal strings, rather than interpreting them as regexes. < 1377832441 573726 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the problem? < 1377832503 649852 :anarckhia!~anarckhia@79-133-9-205.bredband.aland.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377834157 806770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: https://plus.google.com/108532745084733145449/posts/gzLPnqH8HHH < 1377834508 844520 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1377837757 404001 :c33333!~androirc@216.66.74.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377837816 443090 :c33333!~androirc@216.66.74.22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looking for esoteric, nirgle, fusion or mikeh < 1377838872 397561 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1377842017 314346 :lekrel!6570a793@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.167.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377842036 446210 :lekrel!6570a793@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.167.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've decided to put up an interesting challenge. It has more to do with cryptography but also related to programming. Here is what you ought to do in order to complete it: 1. Generate a 192-bit triple DES ciphertext using your alias as the key and plaintext for the encryption, 2. Write a Malbolge program that would output the ciphertext < 1377842041 316346 :lekrel!6570a793@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.167.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3. PM me the key (a.k.a your alias) along with the malbolge program source < 1377842044 268718 :lekrel!6570a793@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.167.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll need an interpreter/compiler for the malbolge part. Good luck. < 1377842046 846405 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377842322 158837 :lekrel!6570a793@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.167.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone? < 1377843045 196231 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1377843580 310050 :c33333!~androirc@216.66.74.22 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377846226 703875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: :D < 1377846312 529791 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was actually built in the 30s though < 1377846370 591405 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377847243 648394 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that during the 1960s, it was (already) built < 1377847295 247169 :lekrel!6570a793@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.167.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone? < 1377847407 479520 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For security reasons, the effect of MALLOC_CHECK_ is disabled by default for set-user-ID and set-group-ID programs. However, if the file /etc/suid-debug exists (the content of the file is irrelevant), then MALLOC_CHECK_ also has an effect for set-user-ID and set-group-ID programs." < 1377847431 193434 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, why would that be? < 1377847439 595744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which? < 1377847446 126148 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :disabling it for SUID I guess? < 1377847449 702725 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, setuid < 1377847505 696278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess so that setuid programs can be compiled with checking enabled and an attacker can't disable it as part of exploiting a security hole < 1377847541 360589 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but didn't that say it was disabled for setuid? < 1377847542 643918 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enabled < 1377847552 191432 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the environment variable is disabled < 1377847564 370890 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I did not paste the whole context < 1377847568 241696 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhh < 1377847583 376262 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the environment variable lets you toggle it? < 1377847600 157277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is from mallopt(3); programs can call this function to change malloc behavior, but also some of the settings have env vars < 1377847632 319724 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for setuid programs the env vars are ignored < 1377847719 62294 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Openwall has no setuid binaries ^_^ < 1377847747 22620 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :openwall? < 1377847752 532341 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they got the Linux kernel to provide an ICMP socket type so that ping would not be setuid < 1377847761 212333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a security-focused linux distribution < 1377847765 473467 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh < 1377847915 491455 :lekrel!6570a793@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.167.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've decided to put up an interesting challenge. It has more to do with cryptography but also related to programming. Here is what you ought to do in order to complete it: 1. Generate a 192-bit triple DES ciphertext using your alias as the key and plaintext for the encryption, 2. Write a Malbolge program that would output the ciphertext < 1377847920 420336 :lekrel!6570a793@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.167.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3. PM me the key (a.k.a your alias) along with the malbolge program source < 1377847925 557925 :lekrel!6570a793@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.167.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll need an interpreter/compiler for the malbolge part. Good luck. < 1377848036 973034 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1377848331 678820 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know a data structure for representing transitive closures? < 1377848381 11750 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. I want to represent that a < b and b < c and efficiently find that a < c < 1377848479 969726 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would ideally like constant time, up to the underlying (tree, hash, etc.) data structure < 1377848681 438448 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about just storing the transitive closure as an adjacency matrix < 1377848853 36634 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://thoughtstreams.io/glyph/string-trepanation/ < 1377849905 952888 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lekrel: are you mafingre/etc.? < 1377849939 172094 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm same country but different ISP < 1377850654 790569 :lekrel!6570a793@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.167.147 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1377850686 531192 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1377850744 118042 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: dbus-driven mechanisms to give ping CAP_NET_RAW hth < 1377851481 585110 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377852214 899539 :SingingBoyo!~Brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377852449 187967 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Too many workers requested. The job requires 44, but the cluster with profile 'Triton_latest_local' supports maximum of 4." < 1377852453 145432 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, damnable MDCS. < 1377854468 260243 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stay away from Triton, I've been trying to get practically anything to run there for weeks. < 1377854605 331865 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :attempt no landings there < 1377854684 623283 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377854802 754148 :SingingBoyo!~Brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377855071 867661 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :All these other wo^H^Hclusters are okay, though? < 1377855100 106477 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knock yourself out. < 1377855174 623367 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I don't understand: I ran the MDCS thing with matlabpool(44) and -- according to squeue -- it tried to allocate 44 *nodes*; I tried again with matlabpool(4) and it ran on one node with 4 workers; so I went with 8 and 12, and those mapped into 8 and 12 nodes again. < 1377855206 69066 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess maybe the "nodes" field of squeue has different meanings for pending and running jobs. < 1377855233 908600 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on http://sprunge.us/XFRW anyway. < 1377855253 349556 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This is going to take ages parallelized to 8 tasks only.) < 1377855266 235237 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's... strange. < 1377855348 90389 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It runs with --exclusive, don't know if that makes a difference. < 1377855349 500448 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the matlab stuff does strange things. < 1377855367 806560 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's certainly very flaky. < 1377855398 945142 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a lot of people are running MATLAB jobs outside MDCS, which, as far as I know, is explicitly against the license terms. < 1377858806 149257 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377859541 355426 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1377860929 661094 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377861846 965819 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377861864 288691 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377862146 734785 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377862676 478118 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377863153 927041 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377863186 316591 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1377863671 517306 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1377863732 315639 :asie!~asie@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377865166 746156 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377867151 561281 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1377867498 243834 :anarckhia!~anarckhia@79-133-9-205.bredband.aland.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377867726 89751 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377867772 361848 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heya boily < 1377867777 597803 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question for you < 1377867795 656615 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say I want to put in a multi-line script into HackEgo... How do I do that? < 1377867806 16097 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you echo multi-line files? < 1377867838 196452 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooï! < 1377867864 149500 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -e "My hovercraft\nIt is full of eels." < 1377867865 533237 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :My hovercraft \ It is full of eels. < 1377867885 230933 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: yes, it works. the «\» is a newline indicator. < 1377867903 288089 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1377867970 475192 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there's a command to slurp up a script from the web or something, but I can't remember it. < 1377867982 547079 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: is it still possible to do something like that ↑? < 1377868206 364259 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377868224 247395 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... My changes won't go through =/ < 1377868230 652054 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cat < 1377868232 675500 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are cool, but should be illegal. < 1377868251 312173 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Cats are cool, and should be illegal. > wisdom/cat > 1377976962 722069 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377976965 485905 :glogbot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1377976965 667388 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1377976966 747532 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric > 1377976966 812745 JOIN :#esoteric > 1377976967 327997 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377976986 51156 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1377977006 81469 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Thank you for fixing it. < 1377977015 409700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, i was afraid Gregor had sacrificed himself for the bots < 1377977058 563034 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like the Imakuni?'s card? < 1377977109 979465 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377977135 335410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just learned of its existence, also i don't play any form of pokemon game. < 1377977497 150924 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377977509 87064 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy Australian Mailman Mailing List Reminders Day! < 1377977513 278271 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PART :#esoteric < 1377977514 236527 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1377977593 760736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'day mail < 1377977614 134694 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whhhat < 1377977789 9800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you not familiar with this esteemed holiday < 1377977982 185035 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1377978320 600166 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Excess Flood < 1377978544 396090 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aura of Confusion (a class feature of aberration saver) also wants you to play it as a basic pokemon. However, you can't!!! Too bad!!! < 1377978627 902057 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1377978682 265087 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1377978759 730341 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1377980227 588152 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b JOIN :#esoteric < 1377980506 751035 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1377981122 459218 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now make up your own Pokemon card puzzle! < 1377981227 111719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Now that HackEgo is back up, you could `danddreclist. < 1377981252 329615 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already did (when it wasn't up), but I will do again just in case. < 1377981256 24875 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist 41 < 1377981257 900699 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist 41: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1377981273 475012 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK it works now. < 1377981440 739516 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Nothing stops me from using `danddreclist when HackEgo isn't on, although then it won't work perfectly. Anyone who is notified on messages starting with `danddreclist is still notified, though.) < 1377981466 22133 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: If I do that, I'll get double-notified. < 1377981520 926177 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am saying, it can be done in place of the other way if you prefer, since that would work even if HackEgo is down. < 1377981526 980360 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have to. < 1377981556 644747 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377981653 46621 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1377981983 427003 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily new danddreclist: http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1377981983 647145 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377982491 527029 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an easy way in UNIX command-line to convert all filenames to lowercase like you can in Windows command-line? < 1377982581 452161 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps: rename 'tr/A-Z/a-z/' * < 1377982594 897829 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on what "UNIX command-line" is. < 1377982624 425431 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, I didn't know about that command. < 1377982650 393760 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :man rename actually has rename 'y/A-Z/a-z/' * as an example < 1377982693 862051 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, it sure does < 1377982741 24279 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, yes that can work. In Windows it is: for /f %i in ('dir/l/b') do ren %i %i or something like that I think. < 1377982808 511490 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, Windows filesystems aren't case-sensitive. < 1377982924 85178 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know, and such a thing works due to that. < 1377982993 698763 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1377983018 150912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you have to be careful when your filesystem isn't. What if you have two files, "A" and "a"? < 1377983089 184307 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course then it won't work. < 1377983112 218432 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone has once asked me how to convert all of their filenames into lowercase on a Windows computer and I came up with this command. < 1377983325 955642 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: FWIW Windows *filesystems* are perfectly sane case-wise. < 1377983343 101200 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just Win32 that's case insensitive. < 1377983360 28059 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. So NTFS is, but Windows doesn't care? < 1377983365 547702 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1377983368 390366 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's nice < 1377983376 108760 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAT32 with long file names is the same way. < 1377983408 300371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I use FAT12. < 1377983445 476974 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, FAT with long file names in general. < 1377983473 263992 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :longfi~1 < 1377984325 572378 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1377985433 397345 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you have any comments/questions/complains about the Dungeons&Dragons game I am recording, you can tell me that too, please. < 1377986142 21482 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Excess Flood < 1377986631 851302 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1377986643 47754 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Schematic tables are a pretty cool way of handling branching. http://www.subtextual.org/subtext2.html < 1377986662 112214 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :conditional branching < 1377986862 261853 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1377987275 676090 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh i forgot how to use tar. if i have a .tar i should be able to do just 'tar t filename' to get a list of what's in it, right? < 1377987371 500763 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1377987424 448864 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, no, i need f. damn. < 1377987501 284503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why this fear of f's < 1377987582 711262 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bonus question at our final exam was exctracting a file from a corrupted .tar.gz archive < 1377987585 598412 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1377988807 653734 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1377988831 961051 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b JOIN :#esoteric < 1377989925 273747 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hm what are some good adjunctions i don't know about < 1377989994 681891 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :up adjunctions < 1377990010 806761 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(analogous to left adjunctions) < 1377990014 531761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1377990021 635358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a left adjunctions < 1377990031 221105 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean left adjoint? < 1377990057 63428 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know damn well what I mean. < 1377990065 106035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in galois connections people call the left adjoint the "lower adjoint" and the right adjoint the "upper adjoint" hth < 1377990096 492902 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you know that quotienting out the commutator is a functor from groups to commutative groups that is adjoint to the inclusion in the reverse direction? (iirc) < 1377990117 492733 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that sounds good < 1377990134 55856 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :left or right adjoint? < 1377990141 244374 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess left maybe?? < 1377990205 636772 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch my brain < 1377990242 347198 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :google finds results with "abelian group" when you search for "commutative group" < 1377990246 437515 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoogle < 1377990249 654551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1377990311 906503 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's a right adjoint < 1377990313 961630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1377990326 329254 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1377990336 61162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think my brain is up to figuring out the diagrams at the moment. < 1377990345 402452 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what do i pay you for hth < 1377990394 516598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok i think i found it on wikipedia < 1377990418 756799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commutator_subgroup#Abelianization < 1377990471 8149 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, left adjoint. < 1377990489 449383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1377990495 559439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1377990506 882834 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, sort of < 1377990511 648964 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know anything about groups :'( < 1377990558 674751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could be a problem < 1377990577 283181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i become not such an ignoramus twh < 1377990589 776926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :read a group theory textbook < 1377990595 485250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one < 1377990619 318829 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno it's been something like 20 years since i took the course... < 1377990633 494226 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure i'll be abel to find one < 1377990637 904458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1377990744 677172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't be surprised if this adjunction holds more generally for quotients/inclusions between algebras with extra equations added (e.g. xy=yx to get abelian groups) < 1377990782 918631 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a nice categorical way of talking about algebras with equations < 1377990835 548475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... i recall they're related to monads. like the list monad to monoids etc. < 1377990843 58891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in T-algebras? < 1377990859 990433 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe, i don't clearly remember that term. < 1377990865 939785 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like http://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/module+over+a+monad ? < 1377990928 422499 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry my brain cannot help you there < 1377991479 976373 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist 8/31 < 1377991481 765301 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist 8/31: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1377992031 805130 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1377992035 58529 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :plz include year thx < 1377992067 153059 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, you're not on the slist, dude. you ain't got right to interfere in slist affairs. < 1377992091 412195 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so sayeth the treaty < 1377992199 29556 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what treaty < 1377992200 639746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? treaty < 1377992202 431288 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :treaty? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1377992202 681756 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1377992202 904814 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           o/`¯º < 1377992348 308662 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Treaty? It is a suggestion, not a treaty, isn't it? < 1377993180 657067 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'The Treaty on `lists treats how to `list our treats.' >wisdom/treaty < 1377993184 276611 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1377993384 503600 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hack ego < 1377993385 717851 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: hack: not found < 1377993396 949892 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn.