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I have a foreach loop that upon each iteration increments the output with a value. I want this value to be an input rather than a variable. 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The squatters then re-squatted the fort on November 26'' 11:14:36 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `Fort: not found 11:28:11 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 11:36:20 -!- yorick has joined. 12:06:43 -!- Taneb has joined. 12:37:52 -!- Taneb has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 13:26:20 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 13:27:16 -!- FreeFull has joined. 13:49:32 -!- Solain has joined. 13:49:43 hello 13:50:31 -!- Solain has quit (Client Quit). 13:52:30 welp 13:56:54 -!- mnoqy has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 14:07:35 -!- mnoqy has joined. 14:23:58 -!- Taneb has joined. 14:45:32 -!- kallisti has quit (Quit: Lost terminal). 14:56:48 \o/ 14:57:07 How do I invoke the wrath of myndzi 14:57:10 ^celebrate 14:57:10 \o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/ 14:57:11 | c.c.c | ¯|¯⌠ `\o/´ | c.c.c | `\o/´ ¯|¯⌠ ¦ c.c.c | 14:57:11 /< c.c >\ /| | | /< c.c /| | /| |´¸¨ c.c /`\ 14:57:12 /'¯|_) /'\ 14:57:12 (_| (_| |_) 14:57:15 \o| 15:06:36 myndzi doesn't seem very wrathful 15:10:23 \o| 15:10:24 | 15:10:24 >\ 15:10:31 c.c 15:10:31 c.c.c 15:10:31 c.c 15:10:48 -!- Taneb has changed nick to Tanneb. 15:10:52 \o| 15:10:52 | 15:10:52 /| 15:11:03 \m/ \m/ 15:11:14 -!- Tanneb has changed nick to Taneb. 15:41:16 \m/ doesn't work any more 15:41:35 \o| 15:41:35 | 15:41:35 /'\ 15:41:39 then what was that up there 15:46:05 \m/ \m/ 15:46:07 \m/ \m/ 15:46:08 `\o/´ 15:46:08 | 15:46:08 (_|¯'¯|_) 15:53:51 -!- conehead has joined. 16:41:39 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 16:53:08 -!- Yonkie has joined. 17:10:51 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 17:15:15 -!- copumpkin has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:16:06 -!- copumpkin has joined. 17:37:36 myndzi is the wrathfuleast 17:40:42 what the hell is c.c 17:40:42 c.c.c 17:40:42 c.c 17:41:12 Multiocular c 17:41:24 obviously 17:47:27 disco ball 17:53:17 -!- Taneb has joined. 17:57:40 -!- copumpkin has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:58:08 -!- copumpkin has joined. 18:06:20 -!- copumpkin has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 18:06:34 -!- copumpkin has joined. 18:17:39 `slist roxy 18:17:42 slist roxy: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot 18:51:07 -!- copumpkin has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com). 18:51:16 -!- copumpkin has joined. 18:51:52 -!- copumpkin has quit (Client Quit). 18:52:01 -!- copumpkin has joined. 19:29:36 multiocular c.c! 19:29:37 c.c.c 19:29:37 c.c 19:30:16 c.c is a CMU-ism I think; it's like eyes looking away 19:30:21 verbal equivalent might be "uh...." 19:30:28 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 19:30:35 ɔ.ɔ 19:31:13 something like "don't worry if you get a call about me from the FBI tomorrow" "c.c" 19:31:42 and multiocular O is the most rare and exotic glyph variant of Cyrillic letter O; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiocular_O 19:33:23 do you mean to say "Cyrillic letter О" 19:38:58 Сyrillic 19:40:02 c.c.c.p 19:40:03 c.c.c 19:40:03 c.c 19:40:17 o.o 19:40:41 c.c 19:40:56 c.c.c 19:40:56 c.c 19:41:30 apparently you need a 6 letter nick 19:41:33 shachaf: I copy-pasted from Wikipedia 19:41:39 but probably yes 19:41:45 с.с 19:41:48 Оh. 19:42:20 BREAKING NEWS: incorrect information detected on Wikipedia 19:46:26 СОЯЯЕСТ ІТ ИОШ 19:48:31 haha 19:52:19 -!- MindlessDrone has quit (Quit: MindlessDrone). 20:13:46 -!- FireFly has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 20:14:39 -!- Effilry has joined. 20:15:01 -!- Effilry has changed nick to FireFly. 20:21:26 -!- Yonkie has quit (Ping timeout: 267 seconds). 20:37:42 -!- nisstyre has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 20:44:21 -!- nortti has quit (Quit: Lost terminal). 20:45:08 -!- nortti has joined. 20:49:04 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 20:50:52 -!- nisstyre has joined. 20:51:52 -!- oerjan has joined. 21:04:25 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 21:07:23 -!- Koen_ has joined. 21:27:09 @@ blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahaaa /me abc 21:27:09 blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahaaa 21:27:09 * lambdabot abc 21:27:13 wtf 21:27:52 oerjan: I suggest not thinking about it. that's what I decided. 21:28:26 @@ blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahaaa /part I suggest you fix it instead. 21:28:26 blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahaaa 21:28:26 /part I suggest you fix it instead. 21:28:32 ok :P 21:28:36 oerjan: No, it's a special case in the code for /me. 21:28:51 O_O 21:29:20 oh it would need an #esoteric anyway, i guess. 21:29:54 @@ what is this new / @ command? 21:29:54 Plugin `compose' failed with: Unknown command: "" 21:29:56 elliott: ok i think i concur with your suggestion. 21:30:07 Koen_: it is not new. 21:30:22 @@ what is this previously unknowned by me / command? 21:30:22 Plugin `compose' failed with: Unknown command: "" 21:30:24 @help @ 21:30:24 @@ [args]. 21:30:24 @@ executes plugin invocations in its arguments, parentheses can be used. 21:30:24 The commands are right associative. 21:30:24 For example: @@ @pl @undo code 21:30:24 is the same as: @@ (@pl (@undo code)) 21:32:20 ?help ? 21:32:20 ?? [args]. 21:32:21 ?? executes plugin invocations in its arguments, parentheses can be used. 21:32:21 The commands are right associative. 21:32:21 For example: ?? ?pl ?undo code 21:32:21 is the same as: ?? (?pl (?undo code)) 21:32:26 -!- aloril has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 21:32:32 @? what if i just want to be contrary? 21:32:32 Plugin `compose' failed with: Unknown command: "" 21:32:48 -!- zzo38 has joined. 21:35:57 elliott: would you get angry with me if i told Solain to be more patient before quitting? 21:36:05 * @told 21:36:22 -!- aloril has joined. 21:36:35 `? Solain 21:36:37 ​ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ 21:36:58 `? hm what is this 21:36:59 hm what is this? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 21:37:00 | 21:37:00 o/`¯º 21:37:05 ok then 21:37:12 `run cat wisdom/Solain 21:37:14 cat: wisdom/Solain: No such file or directory 21:37:16 `run cat wisdom/solain 21:37:18 ​ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ 21:37:42 You should fix cat up so it behaves like ? when reading a file from wisdom/ 21:37:56 olsner: i was just wondering if someone had changed something to use that picture by default, since it has happened before. 21:38:07 I was also wondering the same thing 21:38:42 `? / 21:38:45 cat: /: Is a directory 21:38:49 bah 21:39:05 oh of course it's ls which is specialized. 21:41:19 @tell Solain Most people aren't watching the irc channels all the time, so quitting after just a minute because no one responded is a bit short. :) 21:41:19 Consider it noted. 21:41:47 wait, i just realized that also applies to elliott answering my question. oh well. 21:41:50 oerjan: Now I've gotten angry with you. 21:42:25 shachaf: it's ok you don't have ops 21:42:42 only in channels that matter hth 21:45:28 oerjan: you really don't need elliott's approval to talk to people 21:46:22 ooh 21:48:06 or maybe you do and we both get banned for subvertive behaviour 21:48:21 oerjan: alt. you can fix that 21:50:08 -!- copumpkin has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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That's how split works. You can't die because of a split. =/ 22:25:39 Unless you count being on the side where Services are as "being on the living side" 22:26:20 I've never been on the dead side so I'm really not sure what happens there 22:26:29 Roujo: I'm pretty sure the other half was marked as having quitted 22:26:55 Koen_: Yeah, and from their side you're the one who quit =P 22:26:55 Roujo: so i'm gonna assume you're just jalous and making stuff up 22:28:35 Koen_: But that's not how netsplits woooork >_> 22:30:01 Roujo: what proof do you have? 22:30:22 olsner just admitted he didn't have any 22:31:46 I was on the other side, once 22:31:49 Everyone quit 22:31:53 It was very odd 22:31:56 Very, very odd 22:32:47 i'm pretty sure only my irssi session exists and the rest of the universe is an illusion 22:34:22 oerjan: We're just irssi scripts. Well, I am, anyway 22:37:11 some of us aren't even trying to hide it \o/ 22:37:11 | 22:37:12 >\ 22:39:22 \o/ \o/ have to trest with multiple \o/s 22:41:41 YOU FAIL 22:42:39 ^celebrate DO IT LIKE THIS 22:42:39 \o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/ 22:42:39 | c.c.c | ¯|¯⌠ `\o/´ | c.c.c | `\o/´ ¯|¯⌠ | c.c.c | 22:42:40 |\ c.c |\ /< | | |\ c.c |\ | /| | |\ c.c /< 22:42:40 /´\ (_|¯'\ 22:42:40 (_| |_) |_) 22:48:44 sooooooo what am I looking at? 22:50:22 three multiocular c.c and two \m/ \m/ and some \o| through |o/ and some other people 22:50:31 -!- copumpkin has joined. 22:50:37 c.c.c `\o/´ | | 22:50:37 c.c | >\ /'\ 22:50:53 /´\ 22:50:53 (_| |_) 22:51:21 multiocular c.c OKAY 22:51:28 c.c.c 22:51:28 c.c 22:51:40 i didn't know myndzi's line length was that big 22:52:08 -!- myanon has joined. 22:52:15 I did get a bit worried when it didn't respond for 11 seconds 22:52:35 hello? 22:52:58 Hello! 22:53:09 i was surprised when it _did_ respond, as i thought you'd gone past the allowed line length. 22:53:30 `relcome myanon 22:53:33 ​myanon: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 22:56:33 I was wondering about an oddity when going to http://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Turing_complete ... The list doesn't include Bitwise Cyclic Tag, but click (next 200) at bottom of page, then (previous 200), and there it is! Pretty strange. 22:57:25 yes category pages are obscure 22:58:02 myanon: hm i'm not seeing what you are seeing, it's in the right spot for me. 22:58:15 oh wait 22:58:21 misread your instructions 22:59:32 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:59:38 There's an allowed line lenght? 22:59:58 -!- augur has joined. 23:00:03 no, all line lengths are forbidden! 23:00:05 Roujo: i thought there was some limit. but maybe i remember wrong. 23:00:08 WELL CRAP 23:00:17 myanon: anyway, i didn't manage to see your problem. 23:00:27 I guess I'll just c.c until the cows go home, then. 23:00:27 c.c.c 23:00:27 c.c 23:02:27 myanon: ok i see that the category was added only four days ago. i suspect there was something in cache or database that hadn't been updated properly, and it was somehow recalculated when you went back to it. 23:02:43 so from now it should work properly. 23:02:58 (added to the BCT article, that is.) 23:04:06 i understand this can sometimes happen with category pages. 23:04:24 Categories are Weird 23:04:35 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 23:06:28 "sometimes" 23:06:40 oerjan ... I just tried it again using both Chrome and IE ... clicking the Turing Complete category link (or using the one I just posted) gives repeatable behavior ... Bitwise Cyclic Tag doesn't appear on the opening page (should be between BiTrax and Blind), then it mysteriously shows up by clicking Next then Previous 200. 23:06:52 I've got that problem for basically any language that's been added to a category in the past several months 23:07:44 (except if the category was added when the page was created rather than in a later edit) 23:08:50 ok. i think this is elliott's problem :P 23:09:28 myanon: what happens if you reload explicitly? 23:09:31 Isn't it always? 23:09:39 Roujo: of course 23:10:29 oerjan ... same thing if I explicitly hit Reload in the browser -- it's missing until I do the Next/Previous thing. 23:11:05 Shift-Reload? (or is it Ctrl- i can never remember the difference, or if there even is one.) 23:11:17 let me try ... 23:12:29 it would make sense for plain Reload not to work if the category pages don't keep track of when their content changes properly. 23:13:20 because plain Reload (as well as restarting the browser i think) only reloads if the server tells the browser that the page has changed since the browser visited it. 23:13:52 also, if this is the case then wiping your browser cache should also work. 23:15:54 oerjan ... with Chrome, none of these have an effect: F5, Shift-F5, Ctrl-F5 (these last two "overide the cache", according to the Chrome website) 23:17:47 weird. i'm using IE 10 btw. 23:18:10 i can never remember shift or ctrl, usually try both 23:18:15 i think only one works in firefox 23:18:25 in chrome, i have dev tools set to disable cache 23:18:29 so i can just open dev tools and refresh 23:18:53 i _do_ have a vague feeling they do the same thing in IE. 23:19:22 oerjan ... I've tried the latest Chrome and IE10 ... same behavior -- are you not getting this behavior at all? 23:19:27 nope 23:20:14 i've seen Bitwise Cyclic Tag in the right spot every time - but i forgot to look before doing Next 200 the first time, since i misread your instruction. 23:21:11 oh wait! 23:22:02 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has joined. 23:22:21 myanon: i see it when i log out from my account first! 23:22:35 -!- nisstyre has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 23:22:45 oerjan: btw you were probably right about google suggestions; I realized afterwards I was talking about google results 23:23:09 Koen_: OK MAYBE I DON'T HAVE TO KILL YOU ALL ANYWAY THEN 23:23:13 NOW it works ... I hadn't bothered to log in, and when I did, the mysterious behavior goes away. It reappears if I log out! 23:23:25 -!- augur has joined. 23:23:47 ok, new explanation: elliott has set up caching for non-logged in pages. 23:23:48 oerjan: yeah hum I'm afraid you still have to since you didn't call my bluff the first time 23:24:15 oerjan: I have, but it should expire properly? 23:24:32 elliott: but maybe not within 4 days? 23:24:36 I intend, with notice, to call every bluff ever made. 23:24:41 Koen_: DARN 23:25:05 although Koen_ says he has that problem for older pages than that 23:25:10 oerjan: it should expire immediately-ish when it should expire 23:25:44 wenn I don't remember if there's a distinction between being logged in or not, and I haven't checked for at least six months 23:25:50 well 23:26:40 * oerjan notes that the new urls for the Rflct links aren't loading properly either, but at least the host supposedly exists. 23:27:03 oerjan: the {{deadlink}} didn't get removed! 23:27:06 they're just updated dead links. 23:27:11 But isn't it very strange that this is apparently only happening with Bitwise Cyclic Tag (which happens to be a page that I created)??? 23:28:04 ooh, you are r.e.s.? 23:28:12 yup 23:28:18 elliott: i know. i hope they'll load occasionally. :) 23:28:30 cool! I was wondering where you went, years ago 23:29:22 I stop by here occasionally, but haven't really participated for quite a while. 23:29:25 myanon: it's not strange because it was the last page to have a category updated. 23:29:43 oerjan ... ahhh, I see 23:30:39 elliott: perhaps the expiry is calculated wrong for category pages? 23:30:51 like, it only includes the actual category text, or something. 23:31:24 i suppose we could test by editing that. 23:32:41 myanon: try reloading now. 23:33:51 Nice ... now it works whether logged in or out ... thanks for all your trouble! 23:34:12 ok but elliott still needs to fix the underlying problem :P 23:37:23 * oerjan wonders if this caching bug would also affect template inclusions. 23:44:03 Time for me to go ... everyone have a good day, and thanks for doing whatever you can about the "bug". 23:45:05 -!- myanon has quit (Quit: Page closed). 23:52:03 -!- CADD has joined. 23:57:10 -!- mtve has joined.