< 1379030415 895927 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the differences are probably not even considered a bug < 1379030419 416674 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1379030560 109992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all my attempts at googling rectangular blocks of text seem to give pages talking about putting text inside a rectangle, which may still wrap arbitrarily there. < 1379030640 79219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or about wrapping text _around_ a rectangle. < 1379030709 388872 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may as well just manually break the lines, unless that's prohibited in this language... < 1379030798 145360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: all my recent css changes were to programs that cannot have whitespace in them < 1379030813 572209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not without major redesign, anyway < 1379030898 41421 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-18-196.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379030914 23656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if text-wrap:suppress would have worked if any browsers supported it < 1379030933 827952 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, unrestricted < 1379030959 925006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the danger is that the browser would still prefer normal break points. < 1379030960 924739 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-18-196.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379031049 808994 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm let's try this < 1379031240 596301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit setting word-break still makes it prefer the usual break points. < 1379032054 464789 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-18-196.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379032476 611910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: can you look at http://esolangs.org/wiki/Hello_world_program_in_esoteric_languages#dupdog again? < 1379032525 485078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i managed to find http://jsbin.com/bulletproof-responsive-pre/2/edit < 1379032568 439910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and adding the IE line from their made it look good to me < 1379032571 738195 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*from there < 1379032590 92736 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that CSS hack ;_; < 1379032619 159423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it the \9 something fiendish? < 1379032637 652276 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I think it's exploiting a parser bug < 1379032641 372401 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least a parser disagreement < 1379032671 42184 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of evil like this circa the early 2000s: http://tantek.com/CSS/Examples/boxmodelhack.html < 1379032673 175661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it's the first thing i found that seems to even understand my problem :P < 1379032703 508762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that guy (Tantek Çelik) sits next to me at Mozilla SF < 1379032742 778053 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i showed him some videos of trains. < 1379032749 427052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what guy? < 1379032760 909634 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the owner of the domain elliott just linked to < 1379032761 518592 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that link < 1379032882 477276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok it's a hack but does the result look ok? < 1379032910 82526 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Chrome, yes < 1379032942 248678 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry i'm too busy dealing with printers to help < 1379032954 765697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the attack of the zombie printers < 1379032960 755331 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :27 jobs in queue and the first is from an hour but hell if i can fix anything!! < 1379032961 818582 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :go for their brain! < 1379032989 317322 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll just print in another lab that doesn't suspect anything < 1379032994 717319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone else with firefox? < 1379033013 357770 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can I interest you in a firefox installer? :P < 1379033057 804625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe later. < 1379033075 50882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to make pizza, i think < 1379033091 381376 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see oerjan is an experienced web programmer < 1379033289 821200 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.jerkcity.com/jerkcity896.html < 1379033527 8088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously not, there's no way the two lines are compatible without some serious hacking. < 1379033766 361911 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379033860 876104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait scratch that, the solution is obvious: just bring your children and register them as web developers. that automatically implies the rest. < 1379034053 717049 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379034647 288818 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://i.cloudup.com/YTMd2VkRWl-2000x2000.jpeg Fox explains github < 1379034847 834558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i put it in a class definition, since it's pretty long and at least then we can replace it if we find something better. < 1379034932 254850 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379035323 923871 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"e-note" < 1379035326 385473 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"edit rights" < 1379035347 679969 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1379035357 772151 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rest is twitch-worthy, but more or less right =P < 1379035364 640239 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the "pull request"... Nope < 1379035373 650563 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta request a pull on that reposotory < 1379035386 319495 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1379035410 267497 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, is Github going public? < 1379035443 274861 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/blog/53-github-services-ipo maybe? < 1379035597 548516 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"879 forks" < 1379035598 145580 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's a blog post from 2008 and it says the title is a lie in the first sentence... :p < 1379035599 67832 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1379035660 735280 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the fox image is undated!! < 1379036272 191351 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379036334 765740 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379036430 938419 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1379036710 404465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the atrocities have now been properly documented. < 1379037195 191941 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379037519 554910 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you're good at the admin thing < 1379037524 366608 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing all this work for me. < 1379037589 147278 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree < 1379037613 750444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1379037699 264255 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, this is a new and exciting printer problem, it interprets everything i print as one blank page. < 1379037702 471181 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck everything. < 1379037725 270380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you want to fuck a blank page < 1379037753 371974 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's there < 1379037763 740173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :paper cuts are nasty, man < 1379037834 976762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the mean time, you might take a hard reload on http://esolangs.org/wiki/Hello_world_program_in_esoteric_languages#dupdog to confirm the latest hack works in firefox too. < 1379037836 362559 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not when your dick's made out of metal < 1379037842 178608 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I should really get that checked < 1379037861 398593 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it needs to reload common.css) < 1379037939 30790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it _should_ work, since i stole it from elsewhere.) < 1379037997 636808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it might not work in less common browsers since i only stole one line of it.) < 1379038082 415225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular i did not steal the line with a webkit comment. < 1379038142 192117 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379038239 4588 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379038644 472851 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`reload common.css < 1379038645 881211 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reload of common.css complete. < 1379038649 725279 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There < 1379038661 899543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/reload < 1379038663 227014 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo Reload of $1 complete. < 1379038685 699099 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's primitive < 1379038688 105303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: i'm afraid that will only work for HackEgo's browser. < 1379038696 559713 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's all we need < 1379038707 640184 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :We just need to install lynx there and browse via him, over IRC < 1379038714 852564 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run install lynx < 1379038716 955543 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run version < 1379038718 141979 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :install: missing destination file operand after `lynx' \ Try `install --help' for more information. < 1379038719 253956 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: version: command not found < 1379038730 554323 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run install lynx lynx < 1379038732 145988 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :install: cannot stat `lynx': No such file or directory < 1379038735 365109 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww < 1379038737 373306 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well < 1379038740 624173 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run wget hats < 1379038742 894233 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​--2013-09-13 02:19:02-- http://hats/ \ Connecting to 127.0.0.1:3128... connected. \ Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden \ 2013-09-13 02:19:02 ERROR 403: Forbidden. < 1379038754 561735 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run wget http://psychose.ca < 1379038757 15987 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​--2013-09-13 02:19:15-- http://psychose.ca/ \ Connecting to 127.0.0.1:3128... connected. \ Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden \ 2013-09-13 02:19:16 ERROR 403: Forbidden. < 1379038762 376842 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, okay < 1379038766 292730 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's blocked altogether < 1379038768 360537 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good thing, imo < 1379038784 268161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: HackEgo has a whitelist for web access. < 1379038800 539634 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint 2: `fetch works around it. < 1379038827 783050 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://psychose.ca < 1379038828 372060 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ http://psychose.ca: Scheme missing. < 1379038832 457109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1379038836 204842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://psychose.ca < 1379038838 877898 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-09-13 02:20:37 URL:http://psychose.ca/ [78/78] -> "index.html" [1] < 1379038846 721918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat index.html < 1379038848 192429 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ \ \ \ \ Yayyyy! \ < 1379038888 922946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the catch is that `fetch is not useable from other commands. < 1379039416 382411 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/7tImjmw < 1379039604 711731 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1379039655 14135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was about to ask fungot but he's gone again. < 1379039679 341415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which raises the question: has fungot ever been seen together with that thing < 1379041875 415884 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett JOIN :#esoteric < 1379041917 152148 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I pondered how this Hylisk program would translate into Haskell: "module Main where main :: World -> World; main = \x -> x" < 1379041937 375569 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I concluded that "\x", "->", and "x" would translate to "return ()", ">>", and "return ()", respectively. < 1379041947 386596 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus, "module Main where main :: IO (); main = return () >> return ()" < 1379041949 335600 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Efficient. < 1379041958 255297 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elegant. < 1379041960 526213 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extraordinary. < 1379042064 136379 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :If "\x -> x" were to be translated into a Haskell type a -> a instead of a Haskell type IO a, it would, of course, translate as "id . id" < 1379042120 994660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1379042137 436961 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, man, dang, amirite. < 1379043714 87431 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes irc 'help' channels really make me rage < 1379043740 94242 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta love it when you get a guy who's doing everything he can to show he's smarter than you instead of actually doing something simple like pasting a link < 1379043762 332473 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode y u!!! < 1379043851 723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll just have to change to doing everything in haskell < 1379043877 742082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok they'll still show they're smarter than you, but they'll _also_ try to help. < 1379044006 703057 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hey, I'm having trouble working through Linux From Scratch." "Do it in Haskell." < 1379044088 969163 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :accurate. < 1379044614 976367 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379044810 281209 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1379045314 996364 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379045725 791045 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This reminds me, I should do Linux From Scratch < 1379045768 347055 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does LFS give you a modern Linux desktop or is it @90s_Linux_User all the way < 1379045819 961677 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't matter, I'm not planning on using it as a 'real' system < 1379045843 503811 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it matters as far as whether it teaches you "how things really work" < 1379045886 135723 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379045903 924429 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1379046010 423810 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oefpjhxlxfpcxakq QUIT :Ping timeout: 261 seconds < 1379046053 152223 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: LFS proper gives you a fairly sane build environment *for* a modern Linux desktop that just happens to be missing nearly every dependency. < 1379046067 378225 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BLFS describes how to build stuff you'd care about, like, say, XFCE. < 1379046110 23333 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: do you still like Tcl? < 1379046115 343566 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes. < 1379046120 280582 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1379046124 504001 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is currently on a Tcl kick
< 1379046142 378124 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok cool < 1379046146 418258 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Excess Flood < 1379046160 175693 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I consider it a fairly good example of how to do language minimalism without making something utterly impractical. < 1379046217 59394 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean really, you can do a Tcl implementation in like 500 lines of not-crazy C. < 1379046241 665109 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can a Tcl be done in a little bit of not-crazy LSL? < 1379046245 488763 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1379046245 701181 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should attempt to do that < 1379046253 49759 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, maybe? < 1379046277 994467 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, this 500 not-crazy C implementation, might not be as efficient as the official implementation? < 1379046291 176646 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The official implementation doesn't internally do EIAS < 1379046293 959637 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowhere *near*. < 1379046334 433589 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The official implementation is a bytecode compiler, and does more "everything can be a string" than EIAS. < 1379046358 629902 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can a suspended coroutine be a string? < 1379046369 513252 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm. < 1379046383 12365 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm imaginine everything in the Tcl universe being serializable... except suspended coroutines < 1379046997 97927 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just keep a serializable continuation. < 1379047004 315071 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wajkrfptuthuowxj JOIN :#esoteric < 1379047243 778280 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tcl hhas coroutines? < 1379047413 397190 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to my knowledge. < 1379047447 78502 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though you could probably hack it in via stack inspection. :) < 1379047462 924252 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shame the call stack isn't actually first class. < 1379047761 906102 :SingingBoyo!~Brandon@154.5.187.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379047889 239956 :SingingBoyo!~Brandon@154.5.187.193 QUIT :Client Quit < 1379047914 604063 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: pikhq: new to 8.6: http://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.6/TclCmd/coroutine.htm < 1379047955 495717 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1379048215 911176 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, there's a built-in OO system in 8.6 < 1379048239 681809 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intended more to be a framework on which to make OO systems, but usable independently in and of itself < 1379048257 293482 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would the call stack being first class work < 1379048295 932517 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Tcl specifically, or in general? < 1379048302 914436 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: That was 8.5. < 1379048308 56230 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think 8.6 added to it though. < 1379048315 127763 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general, i guess < 1379048320 345881 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oddly. < 1379048335 417730 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wiki.tcl.tk/18152 < 1379048348 65912 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: not sure how, but Smalltalk does it < 1379048375 574897 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Ah, yes, a wrapper for the constructs 8.5 had. < 1379048385 520864 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I think there was an independent package for 8.5 and it became part of core in 8.6 < 1379048387 700488 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the data structure's simple to imagine. a stack made up of frames. < 1379048572 190393 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.187.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379048682 976814 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379048888 874042 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379048933 669432 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379049340 738500 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379051371 298006 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1379052247 93490 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PART #esoteric :"http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere." < 1379052369 179050 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1379052439 126194 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1379053684 187918 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379054930 36385 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379054942 273279 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1379054944 274356 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1379055014 785886 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379055448 888892 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379055675 928747 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 918 < 1379055677 568239 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 918: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1379056604 190074 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379056624 855558 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1379056750 866950 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1379057061 735950 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379057522 188565 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379057843 861687 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379058137 261733 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379058517 914186 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379058747 876808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bikes keep rolling past < 1379059018 856656 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1379059448 928166 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379059895 884228 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379061141 988802 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/Pcjf?c best macro? < 1379061465 560413 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enough includes < 1379061502 153867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%d", 01001); < 1379061506 967310 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :513 < 1379061551 502457 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: can it just use 16 macros B_0000..B_1111 and make B4(x) expand to the expansion of B##x? < 1379061553 264955 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't it just use* < 1379061572 124072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c print("%d",(((01001)&1)|(((01001)>>2)&2)|(((01001)>>4)&4)|(((01001)>>6)&8))); < 1379061574 566180 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1379061579 658323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1379061583 821159 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%d",(((01001)&1)|(((01001)>>2)&2)|(((01001)>>4)&4)|(((01001)>>6)&8))); < 1379061585 767130 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 < 1379061598 597097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh right < 1379061675 413572 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It's the standard set on that bot. < 1379061689 118117 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%d", 0b1001); /* the power of GCC extensions */ < 1379061691 126371 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 < 1379061720 88270 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :geordi or something like that? < 1379061723 992563 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :candide < 1379061864 557248 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And sure, it's easy enough to use 16 macros for B4 -- but the octal approach can go up to a B22. < 1379061892 640166 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(01111111111111111111111 is less than 2^64.) < 1379061924 987268 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379062217 302546 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379062239 715377 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL: a cow is more likely to stand up in the next 15 minutes the longer it has been lying down, but not any more likely to lie down in the next 15 minutes the longer it has been standing up. < 1379062260 126875 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2013 Ig Nobel Prices were given out recently.) < 1379062304 262104 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also learned: our university library agreements include the Applied Animal Behaviour Science journal.) < 1379062483 677219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so cows stand up exponentially < 1379062487 480233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1379062491 514196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*lie down < 1379062529 81495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is that from an elsevier bundle? < 1379062534 710870 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1379062542 839534 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an Elsevier journal, anyway. < 1379062565 514868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, can you guess what is currently missing... < 1379062598 786856 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1379062600 404888 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea. < 1379062601 958508 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379062608 397513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1379062647 998098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably bike, he's very on and off today < 1379063298 961549 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379063403 722528 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379063717 269140 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379063844 411482 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1379064016 192316 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.187.193 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379064206 750957 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379064311 44206 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1379065469 933379 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/VeGL "lies, more lies, and documentation." < 1379065630 82337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1379066772 628031 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379067211 746027 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-175-40.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379067211 933936 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-175-40.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1379067211 934006 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379068175 189152 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379068878 187674 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379068991 375020 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379069906 751699 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379071286 876981 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it doesn't say that it doesn't turn on other optimizations < 1379071350 435381 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Details, schmetails. < 1379071525 658846 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 263 seconds < 1379071787 748437 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1379071889 882254 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379072394 382835 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379072920 745366 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379073747 861759 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379074627 722877 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379076038 772685 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379076973 656855 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: http://pastebin.ca/2449462 < 1379078658 855166 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379078727 360542 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: There is a flag to get gcc to give you all the flags that -Owhatever expands into. < 1379078854 896469 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. there is such a thing as Objective-C++. < 1379078873 855084 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's for gluing objc to C++ < 1379078922 201966 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. I was confused for a moment because of the clashing object models. < 1379078974 870523 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :It basically exists so that Safari can be written using an Objective-C UI and C++ VM ;) < 1379079055 648943 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm disgusted. < 1379080111 158750 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next up, Object-PL/I++ < 1379080122 351011 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowait, Objective-Fortran++ < 1379080227 362484 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Object-PL/I++ is the most terrifying. < 1379080273 602068 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Objective-COBOL++Script.NET? < 1379080356 5333 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION runs away from Gregor. “AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!”
< 1379080378 264792 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379080932 755950 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379081050 405876 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Igs are in! http://www.improbable.com/ig/winners/#ig2013 < 1379081274 336725 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beauty Is in the Eye of the Beer Holder < 1379081359 117871 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'm pretty honestly impressed by the archaelogy one < 1379081404 480891 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1379081420 763176 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, i see one of the 2012 winners on twitter all the time. didn't know they did the eiffel study < 1379081552 193856 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :parboiling a dead shrew. what the fungot where they thinking. < 1379081552 429870 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: must be canadia < 1379081566 302295 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, in fact, it is. < 1379081655 577996 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just it, it's actually a pretty good idea < 1379081663 576983 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean how else would you tell which bones would survive? < 1379081822 698593 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379081936 244618 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379082306 895726 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's besides the main problem of why would you voluntarily eat a parboiled dead shrew. < 1379082350 112093 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, guess what I had to drink with my lunch < 1379082449 600036 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379082466 964499 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I'm curious. or in that case, I think you are the one who was curioused. < 1379082483 593704 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime Taneb < 1379082483 751455 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for Taneb is Fri Sep 13 15:28:06 < 1379082500 648369 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think your thought patterns are along the right line, as indeed I was curious < 1379082511 720917 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my drink satisfied my curiosity < 1379082552 871492 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1379082559 391043 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anothello! < 1379082616 263030 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: an argentinian coworker supplies me with mate tea-bags while we wait for another argentinian coworker to replenish the main mate stock. < 1379082636 620977 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, getting colder < 1379082679 638392 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was only a tangential beverage. I still support the Hexhamite Botanical Infusion Hypothesis. < 1379082851 744607 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boillo =) < 1379083188 446374 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask boily What would you recommend to me re: learning Japanese? < 1379083188 591706 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379083875 831024 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still here. only having weird python errors. < 1379083935 550630 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I'd say the “Minna no Nihongo” textbooks, because they are popular, and we went through them in uni. < 1379083971 856970 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily I know you're here, I just wanted to ask you something so I @asked it < 1379083972 2281 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379084293 697283 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379084343 931710 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379084900 997563 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Roujo you vile bot abuser. < 1379084901 182499 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379084925 71202 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1379084925 216902 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 24s ago: you vile bot abuser. < 1379084929 692177 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's nice < 1379084949 119426 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Also, thanks fot the tip, I'll look into those ^^ < 1379085001 103535 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: as I said yesterday, I can lend you mine. < 1379085030 934130 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: sing me a song < 1379085031 278005 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i never found the original paper on syntactic closures? syntax-case ( obviously not... :) < 1379085031 707386 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I missed that =P < 1379085032 674807 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1379085038 708589 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^theme hats < 1379085047 657134 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I mess it up again? < 1379085048 872806 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style hats < 1379085049 18017 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1379085052 601666 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1379085053 927316 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1379085055 148694 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1379085055 294191 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1379085063 219175 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style europarl < 1379085063 364681 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: europarl (European Parliament speeches during approx. 1996-2006) < 1379085067 623162 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: sing me a song of eurocrats < 1379085070 46129 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: mr president, this report reflects the policy consensus between the partners, a process that began in 1989 with the first phase of the pig cycle. one thing is certain: we should insist that other contributors fulfil their commitments. otherwise the gap between levels of prosperity in the region? to my way of thinking, mrs ghilardotti, particularly, within the framework of protectionism. moreover, this draft, in its opinion < 1379085083 109832 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible for us to add themes to the list? < 1379085097 38809 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1379085097 222512 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1379085101 944482 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool < 1379085102 90070 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1379085104 996852 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1379085234 906908 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think Roujo wants you to add a new fungostyle. < 1379085271 828399 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I think the RFCs might be pretty cool to markov from ^^ < 1379085283 375159 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style fungot < 1379085283 520621 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: fungot (What I've said myself) < 1379085290 129270 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :This might get redundant < 1379085302 939154 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you redund with a runcible spoon? < 1379085303 136308 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: just to help an fnord archive) < 1379085351 623829 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style rfc < 1379085351 769265 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1379085358 26959 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style not found < 1379085358 175154 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1379085366 579926 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool | ^style < 1379085375 958547 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp < 1379085777 125200 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some instructions about the style-making machinery. < 1379085805 325558 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The RFCs do not sound like a bad idea. < 1379085896 801387 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm more inclined to add things if someone else does the necessary preprocessing into the "one full IRC comment per line, no ASCII art and page numbers and such" format, though. < 1379086321 364305 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, that was my original question: < 1379086328 376229 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :<+Roujo> Is it possible for us to add themes to the list? < 1379086345 298087 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was ready to do the work needed, I just wanted to know if I had the rights to do it < 1379086357 114647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379086367 976107 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, no. It needs the editing of some files. < 1379086374 697517 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see ^^ < 1379086382 23152 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean by "one full IRC comment per line"? < 1379086406 870520 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, one example of the sort of a thing it should generate as a single comment. < 1379086425 555864 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "can stop here" flags are set based on that. < 1379086453 407475 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The comment length model is particularly cruddy.) < 1379086460 237423 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so it's not a pure markov thing < 1379086461 81354 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1379086466 125602 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a ngram model. < 1379086467 195799 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/pure/simple/ < 1379086487 621461 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more or less the same, just the viewpoint is slightly different. < 1379086508 282402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an ngram model is just a markov model with a sliding window state < 1379086517 326349 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have sliding windows at home < 1379086560 277865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "An ngram model is just a markov model with a sliding window state" >wisdom/'ngram model' < 1379086564 385091 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379086579 66581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm should markov be capitalized < 1379086600 664729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "An ngram model is just a Markov model with a sliding window state" >wisdom/'ngram model' < 1379086604 304703 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379086614 865352 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: http://lib.tkk.fi/Diss/2007/isbn9789512288946/article4.pdf‎ -- that's what it uses. < 1379086628 541787 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woot =) < 1379086649 173633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose this would be technically falls if the ngram model had n unbounded. but i don't think fizzie does that. < 1379086653 498982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*false < 1379086672 463437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot even blame autocorrection. < 1379086686 591504 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't. But it is a variable-length ngram model. < 1379086754 559055 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Still, that's mostly a representation detail.) < 1379086796 150699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose you could have variable width windows. < 1379086827 815320 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously the width won't increase by more than 1 each step. < 1379086859 716309 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: If you *really* want to "do the work", you can go all the way to the actual model files used by fungot. But that requires getting some software. < 1379086860 135096 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so, let's say i call them mindless games. if we hit every stupid person, any person going to the theater of others. god keep. i will walke my selfe, richard. then, heaven, i love thee well; and, by my friend, c < 1379086886 820066 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1379086887 3009 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot* homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1379086889 142977 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1379086934 794751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if any of that was not shakespeare. < 1379086959 531151 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think "hit every stupid person" was necessarily Shakespeare. < 1379087047 609093 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm mostly wondering what an actualt "prepared" document looks like. Stripping the page number, table of contents and such is easy enough, but I'm not sure I see what the lines are supposed to look like < 1379087089 215374 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you still have one of those from the other styles for me to take a look at? =) < 1379087176 663049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for irc it's simple enough i assume, just use the part after : in the PRIVMSG < 1379087220 833591 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or after > in our usual style logs < 1379087247 709768 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... just sentences? < 1379087259 618705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a book there'd be the question of how big blocks to use. maybe entire paragraphs. < 1379087272 923896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd want it to be able to continue after a period, after all. < 1379087339 354809 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's nothing really preventing you joining the whole book into line (well, maybe there's a length limit) but that would probably give some unnatural jumps. < 1379087348 46905 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :across chapters and stuff. < 1379087355 129996 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*into one line < 1379087377 838408 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Well, I mean, it's really a matter of taste. < 1379087397 229088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically any point in the book where you want the model to be able to go from one word to the next, you want the two words on the same line. < 1379087403 37788 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of things would you like the bot to output as a single reply, pretty much. < 1379087425 253015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1379087425 398661 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot* homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1379087427 21472 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've used sentences for some styles. < 1379087432 850346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style europarl < 1379087432 995760 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: europarl (European Parliament speeches during approx. 1996-2006) < 1379087442 722896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i bet not for this one < 1379087443 884711 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: mr president, people outside this house. in the column on the right were disappointed that these were not in a position to consider that although the minutes mentioned specifically the epp group will therefore not support any initiative which stresses the importance of the human race in general and the prospects of enlargement and the report, the european union < 1379087472 526980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: that had disturbingly few periods. < 1379087474 258740 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: madam president, i also believe that the introduction of profit sharing through the exchange of information, also exercise control of this house surely has so little room for manoeuvre. what is worse, it has been under intense discussion for days if not weeks. that confirms how right parliament was to start both the accession and negotiation procedures. as a general question. could you not arrange for people to work in < 1379087484 493455 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's not exactly strict, because it always has the zero-length context to fall back on. < 1379087539 460879 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The stopping is not strictly from the ngram model, it doesn't stop when the sentence-end token happens to be generated (like you might expect). < 1379087543 802763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so it can use that other than at the beginning? < 1379087576 366653 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1379087580 462029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: More than that: it can't use that at the beginning, because the context at beginning is the sentence-start token, and that always has some possible ways to continue. < 1379087593 761095 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1379087623 510387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, but that means the zero length context would be even less continuity than starting a new sentence. < 1379087628 474333 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1379087647 156028 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's just the overall word frequencies.) < 1379087655 93210 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But technically if it ends up generating a word that has never been followed by anything, but it decides not to stop there, I think it'll use that. < 1379087714 84798 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels like it would be more natural to use the sentence-start token for it. < 1379087730 987553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I don't think it does. < 1379087740 361563 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is all from memory, it might work slightly differently. < 1379087754 219289 :nooodl!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379087766 925449 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379087774 366989 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also possible that it actually contains the sentence-end tokens and always stops if one of those is generated, and the extra ad-hoc rules were just an extra on top of that. < 1379087778 745889 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't quite recall. < 1379087807 565438 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1379087824 997855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i guess you talk well enough, anyhow. < 1379087825 845890 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: mr president, during your final six months as decided at the copenhagen summit in two minutes all i can say that the reason for this is the only possible decision. allow me, on the early warning system was set up in nairobi. < 1379087872 966468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: that does not sound like very good time management. < 1379087874 990412 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: mr president, naturally i will be happy to keep parliament fully informed to the greatest possible interest in ensuring that we have failed to keep its position for the future, when it comes to this parliament: is the crisis of which the discharge has been shown with regard to preparations which are not their own personal interests. if a man campaigns for the withdrawal of troops and hardware to be deployed and allowing < 1379087877 298083 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for Europarl, the units for that were single statements made by one speaker. < 1379087883 481385 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They are quite long.) < 1379087893 388557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1379087898 273657 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's continuity over sentences there. < 1379087923 186962 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there are some styles where the preprocessing has been quite rudimentary, and there are leftover line breaks, and it sometimes stops right in the middle. < 1379087926 681269 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style c64 < 1379087926 827029 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: c64 (C64 programming material) < 1379087929 926309 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Was this one of those? < 1379087930 199496 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: memtop 65061, 65433 ( decimal). if you know that it is set to 0 < 1379087944 505571 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ...if I know that, then what? < 1379087944 745999 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: searching for game timers, and do not count when it is necessary to select the keyboard. < 1379087946 50753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it < 1379087992 393801 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, extracting sentences is one reasonable thing to do. < 1379088057 802065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Next up, Object-PL/I++ <-- i'm thinking of Objectivist-B. you have to start at B, because A is A. < 1379088117 427650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(objectivist-C is of course well known already.) < 1379088203 527452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh igs < 1379088246 955552 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the stopping rule -- assuming the Perl prototype matches fungot -- is, in fact, "for each point where $prefix->{canstop}, stop if rand(20) < (number of generated words)/5 + 1". So it depends partly on the model ('canstop' is set if the sentence-end token is possible in that context), but the probability for generating it is explicitly set based on the current length instead of using its frequency. < 1379088247 205337 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: once you've made a sprite onto the stack entries made by for, loading, and change the number of the number is written to with a secondary address of the logical file < 1379088367 197830 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In retrospect I really should've used either just the sentence token (and accepted the somewhat bad length distribution modeling), or used a proper separate length model (say, one Gaussian) with parameters set from the data. < 1379088402 615537 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, "it works", as an engineer would say. < 1379088413 385708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you any good at generating gaussians? < 1379088413 553866 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: purpose: set ieee bus. remember, that is filled. it is an arbitrary starting point similar to def fn. def fn a(x)=x+7 with a secondary command, it can be reset to 0 < 1379088444 298215 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's how you generate Gaussian random numbers. < 1379088641 966454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION vaguely recalls that they were simplest to generate in pairs.
< 1379088672 82022 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The good old Box-Muller. < 1379088678 193796 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Marsaglia polar. < 1379088694 25091 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both do make a pair of norma deviates from a pair of uniformly distributed numbers. < 1379088713 658526 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another fungot deficiency: it always selects the longest context with words, instead of using the backoff weights. (That's one reason for those loops.) < 1379088713 847530 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: by looking at the time, the 6566/ 6567 fetches data from. < 1379088769 499616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr you removed one of the reasons < 1379088792 433579 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, there was also a bug, the details of which I forgot. < 1379088816 503286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about it only looking at a limited subset of the options, iirc < 1379088853 581096 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the number of ? iterations (each iteration generates 2 bits) was too low for the varikn-generated models. < 1379088921 259915 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The frequencies I get out from varikn are just numbers in the [0, 1] range, which I multiplied with some big constant K because the bot works with integers -- the old styles had actual word counts there, and the numbers were generally smaller.) < 1379089110 443248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziggurat_algorithm < 1379089186 301636 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the fancy one. < 1379089281 960569 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379089317 375499 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379089372 423439 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Getting back on track, http://git.zem.fi/fungot/blob/HEAD:/varikn/readme.txt has the instructions if you want to actually make a model (in which case you get to do the parameter-tweaking); or you can skip step 0 and stop at step 1, because the rest is really quite mechanistic. < 1379089372 643555 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: large amounts of data is permanently read into these three bits are used to read the output of the sprite's 21-line length. < 1379089388 193213 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you do want to fiddle with it, the -D and -E parameters in those instructions are "wrong".) < 1379089405 96229 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Alright, thanks ^^ < 1379089473 61573 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I forgot that step #7 was still there... < 1379089963 756820 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you actually modify the dupdog program or is the diff thingy just confused? < 1379090124 920732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: i took away all the newlines < 1379090145 565046 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I thought < 1379090161 874795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and eventually added a pre with the new class < 1379090191 188513 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wanted to make sure this wasn't "oh hey btw here is an optimization" < 1379090208 833228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: the idea was to make the formatting by css instead, so that you can cut and paste it correctly. < 1379090246 347950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the actual program definitely should not have newlines in it. < 1379090258 512037 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct < 1379090467 35205 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379090471 31 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379090887 483554 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379091170 39001 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Bank robbery is punishable by 20 years in federal prison" < 1379091172 97617 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL < 1379091204 952784 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: did you listen to the whole thing? < 1379091215 527344 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've just gotten to that point < 1379091243 395529 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can somebody link to this damn song < 1379091247 224851 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1379091267 963792 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379091274 501729 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7JAns3PsB0 < 1379091276 526255 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the whole shebang → http://youtu.be/MIDuZq7RVAM?list=PLTUlTwlsdlFQhHsAoG7sCxumrigHW-qJk < 1379091278 502086 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ Phantom_Hoover < 1379091279 481327 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There < 1379091281 231753 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1379091284 624893 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even more < 1379091285 732847 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooo < 1379091445 151767 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have also the puddle version, but it's OVER 9000 decamyriabytes! < 1379091462 392729 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aka. 900 MB) < 1379091481 758255 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1379091491 382507 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1379091497 476920 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION smacks boily around with a calisse de grosse truite
< 1379091542 772064 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is calisse de grosse truite? < 1379091557 544410 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fucking big trout" =P < 1379091560 739243 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome FreeFull < 1379091562 744567 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: MWAH AH AH! moéssi I can make bilingual mauvais jeux de mots! < 1379091563 884082 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​10FreeFull: 12Welco06me to the i08nternational hub 02fo14r es12ot11eric progra02mming language de11sign a08nd depl14oyment06! Fo12r more inf08or02mation, check out our wiki: http://esolangs13.org/wiki/Main_Page. (F09or th10e 08o03ther kind of esot11erica, try #03esoteric08 06on irc.da05l.n06et.10) < 1379091565 746819 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379091593 745719 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379091605 339832 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I też can mówić w dwóch językach. < 1379091648 265591 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nani? =P < 1379091663 178198 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :English + Polish =P < 1379091671 293347 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my tongue. it is not happy. < 1379091683 957719 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: puddle. flaque. make the connection. < 1379091686 784381 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION massages boily's tongue
< 1379091695 61260 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I know. Believe me, I know. < 1379091700 776406 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION “hghbhmmmmhghh”
< 1379091715 196396 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION finishes
< 1379091743 384006 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION “hmhmggnghanks”
< 1379091806 788952 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379091837 81243 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks hghbhmmmmhghh < 1379091838 652777 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, hghbhmmmmhghh. Tghbhmmmmhghh. < 1379091866 750265 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379091926 474239 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats Roujo and boily for making him listen to this painful thing -----###
< 1379091937 303350 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugs douglass
< 1379091939 309790 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379091951 398705 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hides behind Bike to dodge oerjan's swat.
< 1379091976 193891 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION build a shed around Bike
< 1379091979 584366 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if you think that's painful... < 1379091990 476066 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION then debates about the most suitable color for the shed
< 1379091999 724954 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well it's a job where you go to syria to look at centuries-old garbage. < 1379091999 870464 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orange < 1379092000 474251 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's my favorite color < 1379092007 681107 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :orange! that's right! < 1379092008 801392 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even a question tbh...... < 1379092018 807175 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's right < 1379092035 604458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh i'm sure there are far worse things. < 1379092061 477520 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my shirt is orange. < 1379092099 191081 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're bad at bikeshedding. we need something more... disagreement-prone. < 1379092180 791615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but there were these words they mentioned that i tried to listen until i found, but it was impossible to hear the words said _and_ having the counting song be at a bearable volume at the same time. < 1379092187 146668 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat cat | cat < 1379092188 875657 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1379092204 93243 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ Discuss < 1379092231 304988 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/run < 1379092232 338163 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo run < 1379092247 672853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat run < 1379092249 10907 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: run: No such file or directory < 1379092286 184747 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1379092289 118967 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm bin/run < 1379092293 79772 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379092305 164938 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"| cat" is kind of awesomely pointless < 1379092316 635108 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it, though? =P < 1379092325 766653 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"| echo" would be < 1379092341 970509 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :| echo wouldn't even work < 1379092349 285712 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat cat | echo < 1379092350 789410 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379092353 246121 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well crap < 1379092360 864797 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what! it should echo a newline < 1379092363 286658 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat cat | cat | cat | cat | cat < 1379092364 922850 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1379092377 737594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that worked perfectly < 1379092404 942235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: HackEgo strips final newlines. < 1379092419 412408 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1379092431 581373 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -n '' < 1379092433 373071 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379092494 891561 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1379092499 193353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def ul (That's interesting!)S < 1379092499 338704 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1379092514 506234 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\input insert \x0a < 1379092532 921613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ what do you think about this? < 1379092538 16652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1379092542 124775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show < 1379092542 270277 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo reverb rev rot13 rev2 fib wc ul cho choo pow2 source help hw srmlebac uenlsbcmra scramble unscramble asc ord prefixes tmp test celebrate wiki chr ha rainbow rainbow2 welcome me tell eval elikoski list ping def a < 1379092551 512500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show a < 1379092551 657934 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+13[.] < 1379092565 250757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show def < 1379092565 395999 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hai)S < 1379092577 30670 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hmm. < 1379092598 831890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show list < 1379092598 976933 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot)S < 1379092602 690671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1379092609 326370 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ignore < 1379092610 215427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show ping < 1379092610 360824 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That Pong alone cannot stop!)S < 1379092611 966400 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1379092657 481819 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379092672 23517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have found a bug arising from the fact that Rust macros are not hygenic wrt named loop break labels < 1379092675 634987 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1379092689 652864 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1379092698 881662 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are rust macros just c style or what < 1379092703 994350 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what actually is rust < 1379092711 146530 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c++ for nerds < 1379092737 859581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is rust trying to have scheme style hygienic macros < 1379092742 642563 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact. "`run echo rofl" != "`run `which echo` rofl" < 1379092745 567270 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I have no idea why < 1379092752 550275 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which echo < 1379092753 571060 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/echo < 1379092763 903211 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo rofl < 1379092765 319828 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1379092768 546393 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run `which echo` rofl < 1379092770 481865 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379092772 93585 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run which echo < 1379092773 654598 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/echo < 1379092788 250448 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo's normally special-cased by the shell isn't it < 1379092789 523394 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no they are closer to Scheme macros although only recently partially hygenic http://static.rust-lang.org/doc/tutorial-macros.html < 1379092789 922962 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run `which cat` cat < 1379092791 720128 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1379092792 428069 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: echo is normally intercepted by the shell for efficiency. < 1379092796 569302 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1379092805 943168 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/echo < 1379092806 462141 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh, nice. < 1379092807 172651 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo No output. < 1379092815 878553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1379092842 864581 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't get this syntax at all but whatever < 1379092847 379573 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kinda don't like these special purpose macro languages. just lemme run code at compile time and spit out an AST! < 1379092861 274462 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy talk < 1379092899 823781 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't expose compiler things like the AST at compile time! the world would go mad < 1379092905 119150 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it works out ok so far < 1379092911 301675 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah but that's why you use lisp < 1379092922 70654 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it doesn't have syntax, obviously < 1379092923 279025 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASTs are such a poor interface though < 1379092930 297103 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lisp more like shitsp < 1379092932 600942 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that I really have a better suggestion) < 1379092942 956300 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with asts < 1379092955 811325 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Rust is a systems language that provides explicit control over allocation, but in a way where the compiler can prove memory safety < 1379093001 241736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it has a few novel features supporting that, and the rest is just like "let's design a systems language for 2013 not 1970" so things like pattern matching, macros, real module system, etc < 1379093055 772183 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did Phantom_Hoover just successfully troll kmc? :p < 1379093077 556324 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :troll? i thought he just asked what rust was and kmc answered < 1379093078 373956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1379093090 11316 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like it took me long to compose that answer ;P < 1379093098 444969 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since people keep asking me that < 1379093102 249645 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :u mad kmc??? < 1379093106 430926 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1379093113 617547 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was in response to < 1379093114 325064 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:21:51 ah but that's why you use lisp < 1379093114 470285 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:22:01 because it doesn't have syntax, obviously < 1379093115 211714 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc probably has a macro to explain rust. < 1379093117 367156 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was obvious kmcbait < 1379093118 333119 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you really want to troll ask "how is this better than Go?" < 1379093124 526694 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's too obvious\ < 1379093144 43051 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go is a completely different language for a completely different niche, and yet people can't stop comparing Rust to it for some reason < 1379093151 231236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ást er góð < 1379093152 138452 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc trolls himself < 1379093190 367356 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, and if you added monads it would basically be haskell < 1379093192 927200 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: naturellement, mais pourquoi en ce moment-ci? < 1379093208 57679 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, now there's a half-decent troll < 1379093211 268206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: to Go or Rust? < 1379093216 85583 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both < 1379093217 854945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1379093224 946404 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1379093244 692478 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :recipe for Haskell: add monads to water and season according to taste < 1379093258 787830 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't forget the purity! < 1379093270 98987 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one day, the majority of languages will have monads in them. < 1379093273 271133 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even assembly! < 1379093279 643257 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a beautiful future < 1379093288 487624 :nooodl!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the recipe for the strathclyde haskell enhancement < 1379093296 487159 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :random thought: when did "assembly" become a monolithic thing < 1379093305 531984 :nooodl!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just a bunch of seasoning < 1379093306 267892 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's, not. < 1379093351 421811 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: maybe it's like, it's a monolithic thing to people who are kind of outside of it? < 1379093354 670938 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, stab yourself a few times < 1379093357 610037 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes is. < 1379093359 578146 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and don't really understand it < 1379093361 664808 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: well yes, but why < 1379093363 991295 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instant Haskell: Just Add Water! (Ingredients: Pure Monad Powder) < 1379093365 254413 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or when rather < 1379093372 535707 :nooodl!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: is that a recipe or a personal thing < 1379093375 663882 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: maybe it's like, how "functional languages" are a monolithic thing to some peole < 1379093382 717135 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a strathclyde thing < 1379093385 649467 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like they're al lisp or something I don't know (?) < 1379093392 800168 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean that's taken as a group < 1379093399 650815 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're probably vaguely aware that ML and Lisp have differences < 1379093409 131184 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think lisp suffers from that itself < 1379093410 773678 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but people talk about "assembly" as if it as one language < 1379093418 747409 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :suffers from what, being seen as monolithic? < 1379093419 30512 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like people lump all the languages with lots of parens into one thing < 1379093421 263348 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379093424 783521 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it's silly < 1379093442 471170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: because Bike asked what's wrong with it < 1379093444 640263 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole "lisp is god" thing doesn't help, but whatever < 1379093446 34194 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might just be a thing people do in general, "C/C++" and so on... < 1379093448 713299 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives a stainless bloodless machine-washable ceramic stabbing salt-shaker with nice floral motifs
< 1379093456 491660 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the space of languages looks really different depending on where you are < 1379093462 367333 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess assembly kind of has it the worst given that it's not even really a language family so much as a type of language < 1379093477 540502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people will argue forever about the differences between Python and Ruby and JavaScript and they all seem kinda the same to me < 1379093481 309164 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least c++ is "almost" a superset of C. scheme and common lisp and elisp are pretty damn different < 1379093493 803993 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a little dynamic scope between friends, i guess < 1379093503 460444 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives the aforementioned salt-shake to noodl. you know, verb target and stuff...
< 1379093509 69966 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ke/ker/ < 1379093511 45112 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the whole point of "Lisp" is that you get to cherry-pick the language attributes you like from Common Lisp, Scheme, Clojure, etc. to support whataver point you're trying to make < 1379093512 163011 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just wish we could compile any source into a binary module and link wildly with other so compiled modules. < 1379093518 457376 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: :/ < 1379093524 823551 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hey wanna add C++ FFI to Rust? < 1379093528 871167 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would really help us out < 1379093529 857607 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1379093533 13601 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sincerely, servo team < 1379093544 691202 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know a guy who's trying to make a CL implementation with a C++ ffi, presumably because he's crazy < 1379093549 246785 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumablyp < 1379093563 982774 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you can do C++ FFI in general without outputting lots of C++ code and compiling it < 1379093569 887424 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's what he's doing >_< < 1379093576 641144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then at least he's on the right track!! < 1379093586 118489 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, i just feel like this whole language separation thing is kind of wrong < 1379093605 714954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, unfortuantely languages tend to have type systems / memory models that are hard to reconcile < 1379093618 482904 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why we resort to lowest common denominator: C types or JSON or such < 1379093622 86232 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have a binary object file that defines calling convention and so on, and have a universal symbol something < 1379093629 925204 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1379093641 723092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus, like, stuffing a bunch of language runtimes into the same process can be tricky < 1379093679 826228 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i don't know enough about that < 1379093686 416775 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't even know many languages where the runtime is a .so < 1379093687 44052 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to force every language to play together nicely kinda just homogenises the languages you can use < 1379093729 642630 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can sorta go for only really supporting one kind of language well but having really good tight integration between everything, or supporting a wider variety of languages but everything is kinda taped together haphazardly, unix is more the latter < 1379093756 409240 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'm just annoyed at rubygems and whatever working by downloading source. < 1379093798 385046 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. not my field. fuck computers. < 1379093879 220593 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is a biologist in #esoteric anyway??? < 1379093893 44063 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i have an adamatzky fetish < 1379093952 550869 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that something to do with battlestar galactica < 1379093955 795241 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Bike wants all of the pain of CS without any of the money (;_;) < 1379093969 105934 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a ;_; in parens!! not a ;_; on a face < 1379093982 270965 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be both, really < 1379093986 29428 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :((;_;)) < 1379094001 187315 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much do neuroethologists get paid... what do neuroethologists even do?? < 1379094015 423379 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well pretty soon i'm going to be a lab monkey < 1379094025 590628 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine it involves electrodes < 1379094031 953704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, did you get one of the research jobs? < 1379094032 964758 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the money, and none of the pain because none of my supervisors and employers care about how bad my code is if it works < 1379094050 376166 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: interview today, but even if i don't get that one i'm pretty set on getting /a/ lab job < 1379094055 231129 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, good luck < 1379094092 179261 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will probably involve simulating the activity of muscle proteins, but that's just a guess < 1379094507 829202 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck neuroethology < 1379094508 202348 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neuroethology (from Greek ������ - neuron "nerve" and &��� - ethos "habit or custom") is the evolutionary and comparative approach to the study of animal behavior and its underlying mechanistic control by the nervous system. < 1379094542 403377 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greek language is weird. how in fungot can you utter a ½... < 1379094542 548676 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: there are several filter controls to set the system clock. < 1379094547 154287 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :&¸¿Â, yes < 1379094585 312103 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck neurotheology < 1379094585 846522 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neurotheology, also known as spiritual neuroscience, attempts to explain religious experience and behaviour in neuroscientific terms. < 1379094590 591125 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the. < 1379094593 470996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttants < 1379094599 808843 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELP! < 1379094604 267115 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :avoid neuroetheology, hth. < 1379094618 342563 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow good misspelling. < 1379094634 597815 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck neuroeology < 1379094634 899518 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379094637 534459 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww < 1379094667 111324 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there is neurology, if you like. < 1379094675 278178 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I was curious if neurotheology existed. it does. I am disturbed. < 1379094686 847971 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that great. < 1379094699 880922 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like a totally good and reasonable thing to study...................... < 1379094702 878149 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a kind of dumb name < 1379094704 302985 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck neurogeriatology < 1379094704 635955 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379094707 837612 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :phew. < 1379094713 853365 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck neuroscatology < 1379094714 217862 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379094722 461433 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck neuropathology < 1379094722 777592 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neuropathology is the study of disease of nervous system tissue, usually in the form of either small surgical biopsies or whole autopsy brains. < 1379094740 399705 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: most of what i know aboutit involves stupid arguments about how shocking one part of the brain making people more religious means something something dawkins fanboyism < 1379094745 444124 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379094748 362882 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care about any of that < 1379094759 913453 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like a rationalistic view of the weird shit I've experienced on drugz < 1379094773 272157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it'll happen any time soon, though < 1379094782 299247 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably Hard Problem complete < 1379094784 639019 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck neurosociology < 1379094784 913103 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neurosociology is the application of neurobiology to the study of society. < 1379094789 464669 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOW < 1379094803 94427 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The more we know =P < 1379094803 981072 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this surprising people < 1379094813 170563 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"neuro-" is like "computational" in terms of sticking it in front of everything < 1379094822 891330 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/is this/are these/ < 1379094831 719144 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Answer: Maybe, I haven't met them yet < 1379094842 234588 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck computational neurology < 1379094842 531722 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379094849 736826 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neurology is doctoring < 1379094852 106341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Greek language is weird. how in fungot can you utter a ½... <-- you still haven't fixed that unicode bug? < 1379094852 301816 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: preparatory routines: talk, a special reversed character appear in the < 1379094853 339481 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck neurocomputer < 1379094853 622333 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379094855 666945 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck compoutational neuroscience < 1379094855 875384 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379094858 506796 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck neurocomputing < 1379094858 878930 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379094862 230796 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :compoutineational < 1379094865 146424 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck reposotory < 1379094865 497639 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379094878 142497 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but yeah most of this stuff seems like trying to understand the principles of word processor design by examining logic gates. < 1379094881 443348 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to me. < 1379094882 740074 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck neuroprogramming < 1379094883 98577 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379094890 903206 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we stop with the ~duckspam < 1379094897 135671 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? okay < 1379094898 798884 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromorphic_engineering < 1379094899 158917 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1379094899 492807 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1379094899 712328 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         o/`¯º < 1379094986 871047 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: *LA LA LA* can't hear you through the encoding problems *LA LA LA* < 1379095005 302657 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck duckspam < 1379095005 567849 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379095008 108409 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1379095018 462164 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck spam < 1379095018 780018 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A trademark used for a canned meat product consisting primarily of chopped pork pressed into a loaf. < 1379095020 453791 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :COME ON < 1379095059 379704 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck baloney < 1379095059 724716 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379095061 908419 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. < 1379095203 598087 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1379095215 194479 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379095283 187441 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon, there will be no psychology topic i cannot gesticulate angrily about. MWA HA HA HA HA < 1379095302 860049 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooo < 1379095303 724321 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep your gesticles in your pants, tia < 1379095315 905293 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how that's going to fix your connection, but eh < 1379095326 700641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps bonghits will fix your connection < 1379095334 307608 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a thought < 1379095342 762983 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Most things are < 1379095344 476584 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would know < 1379095371 982732 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#wow #whoa < 1379095386 275775 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :such thought < 1379095389 813002 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :neurodoge < 1379095395 442583 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow wrong meme < 1379095399 554434 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the corner with you < 1379095406 985408 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :#nope < 1379095455 482489 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#balls < 1379095600 191769 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379095854 153285 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realized a couple of days back that every single IRC channel can be read as an hashtag < 1379095889 368257 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!! < 1379095903 706454 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about ##doublehashtagschannels < 1379095926 706037 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can make hashtags about hashtags can't you < 1379095933 683474 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :«"Burdens are the foundations of ease, & bitter things the forerunners of pleasure" #Rumi #Spiritual #Quote #Esoteric #Mystic #Sufi #Wisdom» < 1379095959 16525 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1379095968 464346 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it gets even better when you think of the # channels < 1379095975 910852 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#Esoteric : If you keep presenting yourself as a slave, you are a slave because you obey < 1379095985 473202 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because apparently, # is a valid channel name < 1379096003 533642 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hashtag nothing < 1379096004 14146 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :# on freenode was crap last I went there, though < 1379096025 9625 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should We Consider the Symbolism of Monster Energy Drinks as Being Satanic? < 1379096042 61831 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is # a requirement of the protocol or of the servers? or just common practice? < 1379096050 189313 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means something specific < 1379096054 82989 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are also &channels and stuff < 1379096057 275327 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody cares though < 1379096082 482144 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if I held a server on my computer? what if I cared? < 1379096084 482226 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :#channels are network-wide, &channels are server-specific < 1379096094 61910 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's emphasis on this "I" as I put in in caps < 1379096094 871027 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, they're required by the RFC, AFAIR < 1379096097 124256 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just said you don't care koen < 1379096136 859312 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if my name is nobody < 1379096138 440670 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Hidden (And Not So Hidden) Messages in Stanley Kubrick's "Eyes Wide Shut" < 1379096198 748810 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/Illumine_Nation good < 1379096206 191978 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379096782 266544 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~fortune < 1379096782 800490 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Genius, n.: < 1379096782 945658 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : A chemist who discovers a laundry additive that rhymes with "bright." < 1379096803 70225 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :soap fight < 1379096886 39509 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :greco-roman extreme ironing. < 1379097872 408805 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1379098307 285907 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: apparently, # is indeed a valid channel name. but is it «#», or «##»? < 1379098321 25175 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just # < 1379098326 475947 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :## is yet another channel < 1379098403 774833 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. you, like, have, like, joined them all, like. < 1379098466 925421 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379098525 963493 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1379098529 695439 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to hang in # < 1379098532 348102 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not anymore =P < 1379098556 858146 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379098590 185977 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, I do tend to join # on every network I'm on < 1379098631 465908 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :is # a thing? < 1379098641 362780 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it is < 1379098705 749052 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a thing on most networks < 1379098715 328687 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's banned on some =P < 1379098735 15232 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Coldfront just says "This channel may not be used" < 1379098968 186910 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379099004 200117 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: trying out the various punctuational channels. I got autokicked from «_». < 1379099057 305683 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1379099061 466545 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :From the server? < 1379099065 769462 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems so. < 1379099071 232604 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and #% is invite only. < 1379099073 926916 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1379099074 750715 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1379099237 257325 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: say, try to join #¨. < 1379099286 366055 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Illegal channel name =P < 1379099293 321413 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeeeh... < 1379099312 76448 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone else who has a client that Accepts the Greatness of the Diæ̈resis? < 1379099325 813792 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, it's the server who doesn't want to < 1379099330 900721 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :[kornbluth.freenode.net][479] Roujo #¨ :Illegal channel name < 1379099422 185804 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. and if you just «/join ¨»? < 1379099669 704692 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379099729 226254 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: That aliases to "join #¨" < 1379099741 550202 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I "/quote join ¨"... < 1379099751 72098 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :[kornbluth.freenode.net][479] Roujo ¨ :Illegal channel name < 1379099990 342541 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms-IFYNrjhU < 1379100030 172041 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379100259 866127 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :roujo: wat < 1379100276 278688 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Ask boily =P < 1379100462 83972 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: listen to the thing. discuss with oerjan. < 1379100548 107873 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone give me a sensible terminal size to stream Dwarf Fortress with? < 1379100641 795054 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is dwarf fortress an ascii motion picture? < 1379100655 287159 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, it's an ANSI universe simulator < 1379100659 740298 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: 80 × 25 is not good? < 1379100669 167013 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, it probably is < 1379100698 579793 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: it's a unicodified CP437 universe simulator, down to sweat drops and eyeball nerves. < 1379100754 555545 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm streaming Dwarf Fortress, telnet termcast.org < 1379100878 458320 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, shiny! < 1379101670 354213 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1379101740 728113 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have we got a stack-based language where there is one data stack, and the program is a list of instructions, with the first instruction dropped before it's executed? and some instructions allow to push a "next instruction" before the rest of the program in function of what's on top of the data stack? < 1379101759 347002 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: underload? < 1379101760 428517 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload but slightly suckier < 1379101778 373748 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1379101798 596443 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for so long I have resisted going into how underload works < 1379101829 880930 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty easy < 1379101854 14283 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you say < 1379101863 607844 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it even forms a monoid" < 1379101904 288236 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when underload is monoidal? < 1379101916 695477 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :since i said so just now keep up motherfucker < 1379101917 539157 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't everything? < 1379101930 169804 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I got from monads. They're like single gonads, really. < 1379101934 649587 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379102022 349956 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION replaces Bike with a small semigroup
< 1379102314 340040 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379102398 499873 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379102412 325708 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379104190 688851 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379104427 851145 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: someone wants to see your dining room < 1379104439 719709 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why < 1379104444 733954 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn good question < 1379104849 258510 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1379105697 695608 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1379105936 35537 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1379105986 653912 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1379106506 186082 :mnoqy_!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379106550 587571 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1379106552 712329 :mnoqy_!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net NICK :mnoqy < 1379106634 295732 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: will you remonqy eventually, or are you mnoqy for the foreseeable future? < 1379106674 279394 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's terminal i'm afraid < 1379107131 977188 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379108324 976175 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379109124 371499 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379109813 238264 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEANWHILE IN /R/BITCOIN: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1mbo1y/my_parents_dont_believe_in_btc_how_can_i_convince/cc7o88v < 1379109901 114934 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes cyprus < 1379110033 383895 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WORK DOOOOONE! YEEEEES! < 1379110044 524361 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fungotly hungry. < 1379110044 689495 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: to scroll the following: < 1379110055 593276 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: foodening < 1379110060 456153 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379110064 831854 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lot of scrolling < 1379110100 54214 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, does anyone know about that thing where you use commodity GPUs to do subsupercomputing? fiora? < 1379110191 180666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :subsupercomputing? < 1379110210 692931 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :supercomputing on the cheap, basically. < 1379110219 578174 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka computing < 1379110219 957985 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know a few small things < 1379110224 845437 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's just opencl stuff. but i don't know any of that. < 1379110233 323745 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GPGPU is a general term used here < 1379110236 989685 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks phantom, that was the joke < 1379110245 699977 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably not very "super" if it's also "cheap" < 1379110247 691963 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"general-purpose graphical processing unit"? < 1379110256 569020 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ? < 1379110281 953509 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you (fiora) linked a paper once about breaking crypto using commodity GPUs or something < 1379110285 41365 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know. kinda high right now < 1379110295 6689 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :good for you < 1379110300 834383 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :high as a bike < 1379110301 865564 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um. I know a little but like what about it < 1379110309 807478 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just anything < 1379110317 626631 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@_@ that's kind of vague < 1379110317 772319 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : that's kind of vague < 1379110319 271703 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know >_> < 1379110327 670928 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am the eternal noob. < 1379110350 10697 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like um what do you want to know >_< < 1379110352 843871 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: did anyone say anything interesting since this morning? < 1379110353 31441 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: 120 print nam tab(25) " total" 120 for t=0 to 1 depends on the tape at a time. the book. if corresponding bits of color ram. the < 1379110436 643001 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'll just take that as a "maybe"... write funnier things? < 1379110436 856842 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: if the number at the next available location in the middle of variable storage area. therefore, this register. the < 1379110447 133471 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... the < 1379110656 515816 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@dhcp-128-189-205-141.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379111146 522080 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should just jack a gpu and write fibonacci in opencl or whatever shit < 1379111146 667317 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's "hello world" for that < 1379111382 115531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode SNOWMAN < 1379111383 778807 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☃ < 1379111450 849508 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1379111465 542453 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm noticing progressively more advertising getting through adblock+... < 1379111583 66110 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode POO < 1379111584 695323 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'POO'" < 1379111595 577898 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode PILE OF POO < 1379111597 305832 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode PILE < 1379111597 538311 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'PILE OF POO'" < 1379111598 946296 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'PILE'" < 1379111611 91145 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i thought that was it for sure < 1379111616 689640 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is < 1379111619 645076 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it is... is it not in the db? < 1379111629 497780 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+1F4A9 < 1379111631 60768 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'U+1F4A9'" < 1379111636 945193 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 1F4A9 < 1379111638 212709 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name '1F4A9'" < 1379111638 753193 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode just takes a char name < 1379111641 102525 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a codepoint < 1379111641 348220 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'just takes a char name'" < 1379111646 622179 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :look shut up HackEgo < 1379111667 705002 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it's exploitable < 1379111677 635123 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not < 1379111687 485237 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would it be exploitable < 1379111719 796577 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python bug? < 1379111768 646303 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey did you all see http://blog.sucuri.net/2013/09/ask-sucuri-non-alphanumeric-backdoors.html non-alphanumeric php backdoor shell < 1379111783 826270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is esoprogramming for sure < 1379111792 216487 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep saying that exploits are weaponized esoprogramming... < 1379111813 437131 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Since you wanted it so much... )) 💨💩 < 1379111961 620021 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it involves PHP... do I really want to see? < 1379111969 427857 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379111989 505311 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@$_[]=@!+_; $__=@${_}>>$_;$_[]=$__;$_[]=@_;$_[((++$__)+($__++ ))].=$_; $_[]=++$__; $_[]=$_[--$__][$__>>$__];$_[$__].=(($__+$__)+ $_[$__-$__]).($__+$__+$__)+$_[$__-$__]; $_[$__+$__] =($_[$__][$__>>$__]).($_[$__][$__]^$_[$__][($__<<$__)-$__] ); $_[$__+$__] .=($_[$__][($__<<$__)-($__/$__)])^($_[$__][$__] ); < 1379111989 656301 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1379111996 590651 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there now you have seen it whether you want to or not < 1379112014 581326 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, luckily Haskell is not susceptible to the same backdoors < 1379112018 461084 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's code to run a shell (takes arbitrary calls to do from GET) < 1379112021 543449 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/IZrScxv.jpg < 1379112034 190266 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc are you hacking our aim?? < 1379112038 27216 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hecking < 1379112038 971547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :little bitty bit < 1379112040 46135 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrible typo < 1379112045 894999 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :*heckling? < 1379112050 631007 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hecking < 1379112051 723150 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's definitely hecking < 1379112060 567247 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you heckle an aim < 1379112066 130961 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aim heckles itself < 1379112070 175871 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. I always thought it was heckling < 1379112117 538856 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Someone probably reared that train < 1379112146 896133 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1379112159 986010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: lolololol < 1379112300 982765 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess a suitably limited version of PHP could make a nice esolang < 1379112352 886240 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nests iframes 50 deep
< 1379112359 980646 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, and where except make is @ a prefix to suspend output? < 1379112368 84611 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :*except make and PHP < 1379112375 498702 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in PHP it suspends errors, I think... < 1379112399 664123 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think most (non-IE) browsers limit iframes to about 9 deep < 1379112415 414739 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1379112426 922536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: DOS batch files I think < 1379112441 896460 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've tried infintely nested iframes and everyone was fine except oerjan whose browser crashed < 1379112467 437681 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379112481 732845 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379112507 732953 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hmm, maybe... < 1379112511 890280 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's the origin of @ as a silencing/error-suppressing prefix? < 1379112542 449778 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the shape represents your errors spiraling into a black hole < 1379112581 534162 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :'@', pronounced slurp < 1379112998 681701 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@dhcp-128-189-205-141.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379113278 275110 :nooodl!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379113465 77891 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ doesn't look like slurping < 1379113683 188457 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379113960 100929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll have to agree to disagree < 1379113963 42848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey zzo38, how's it going < 1379113989 388586 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1379113993 268998 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you use @ to suppress errors because @ is perfect and never has errors! < 1379114015 779493 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::☺) < 1379114055 47497 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't give me that look... that... smell < 1379114077 651122 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::@) < 1379114130 455126 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just wait a few minute please < 1379114133 581837 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will answer in a bit later < 1379114140 174706 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages-loud < 1379114140 319882 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 4d 1h 46m 36s ago: ♪moof♪ you have quotes! < 1379114159 387945 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What quotes is that? < 1379114160 11719 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379114175 691314 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily added your quotes to the pdf in the topic < 1379114538 844440 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NancyReaganMrTChristmas1983.jpg < 1379114539 781992 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Elvis-nixon.jpg < 1379114702 946786 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NancyReagenMrTChristmas1983.jpg is definitely up there in terms of good filenames < 1379114712 341287 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ae. < 1379114738 537067 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good files too < 1379115090 191581 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379115192 877252 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379115665 532656 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379115837 809601 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made some levels of "Attribute Zone" game in QBASIC (I don't have it here right now though); later I intend to put in Famicom, since the game mechanics are based on the limitations of the Famicom PPU. < 1379115927 571411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good premise for a game < 1379116006 738163 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if there are other games like that. < 1379116039 586353 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the platonic spirit of platformer characters must get through the platonic platformer game < 1379116062 548063 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whilst fighting planktonic spirits < 1379116076 691744 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrifying imo < 1379116109 434185 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I do not understand you. < 1379116150 347474 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither,man. me neither. < 1379116196 195898 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what a platonic platformer game is either. < 1379116212 837879 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'know, world of forms < 1379116271 767603 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1379116346 169749 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Attribute Zone" is not platformer game though. < 1379116716 191425 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds