< 1383091258 364128 :Faris!~faris@41.140.199.36 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1383091304 404381 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1383091466 402849 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1383091518 626540 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip98-164-152-51.mc.at.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1383091519 110637 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip98-164-152-51.mc.at.cox.net QUIT :Changing host < 1383091519 256121 :JesseH!~JesseH@unaffiliated/jesseh JOIN :#esoteric < 1383092002 97231 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :Fiora < 1383092048 337396 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arxiv.org/abs/1310.7007v1 wheeeeee < 1383092596 12067 :kmc_!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :kmc < 1383093497 391799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good look-of-disapproval came back < 1383093514 134550 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1383093518 460629 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1383093552 674848 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i had a temporary font issue in putty < 1383093563 880386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably because of windows upgrading. < 1383094277 846716 :Yonkie_!~Yonkie@ip.82.144.199.214.stat.volia.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1383094783 732845 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1383094991 184828 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.4 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1383095598 192123 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1383095725 67760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 380 < 1383095726 893432 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :380) * Sgeo mutters about broken toilets #toilet is useless is #toilet even a thing I'm looking for help with toilets < 1383095746 253568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the formatted logs merge consecutive spaces < 1383095983 999337 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1383096338 395735 :Faris!~faris@41.140.199.36 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383096440 101474 :Guest62574!~pinky@pool-98-113-151-156.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1383096451 629649 :Faris2!~faris@105.132.198.55 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1383096585 191128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : well the homotopy group is pretty hard to compute usually (i hear), so it's of limited use even if you are a mathematician. but the first homotopy group is needed to prove things like brouwer's fixed point theorem (at least i don't know another way that's not a huge hassle). <-- you just need homology groups, which are easier. < 1383096716 511610 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1383096734 144632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oklofok well the homotopy group is pretty hard to compute usually (i hear), so it's of limited use even if you are a mathematician. but the first homotopy group is needed to prove things like brouwer's fixed point theorem (at least i don't know another way that's not a huge hassle). <-- you just need homology groups, which are easier. < 1383096734 326232 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1383097040 22834 :nys!~YXWX@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1383097681 954797 :Faris2!~faris@105.128.6.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383097858 407983 :Faris!~faris@41.140.199.36 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1383097948 644864 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.144.30 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1383098001 587888 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1383098807 403050 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1383098831 539383 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1383098886 347269 :Faris!~faris@105.128.6.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 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:shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1383102650 117667 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1383102785 252702 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1383103010 844371 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1383103487 512397 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1383103662 344834 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1383103932 633924 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1383104561 750558 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de < 1383104688 295239 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1383104853 480485 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1383104994 123994 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1383105001 598090 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1383106647 976453 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i know, but those are not as nice < 1383106682 373810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they're supposedly easier to calculate than homotopy groups. < 1383106706 65304 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can brouwer's be proved with those? < 1383106707 258328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly it still takes a while to get to that point. < 1383106728 681491 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite algebraic topology book starts with it, and uses homotopy < 1383106753 560648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: only for the disk, no? the homology proof applies to arbitrary dimension. < 1383106788 76920 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming by first homotopy group you mean the fundamental group. < 1383106790 825800 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do < 1383106851 521344 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first proof of brouwer's fixpoint theorem listed on wikipedia is essentially the same as what i remember, and the step where you prove that you cannot have a retract from ball to sphere can then be done with homology. < 1383106870 342603 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :brouwer and the fact S^1 is not a retract of D^2 are on page 6 < 1383106883 307461 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can homology be done in 6 pages < 1383106908 958050 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in 2d the fundamental group also works. which is not so strange since the fundamental groups and first homology groups are the same for the relevant spaces. < 1383106927 894903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in general, the first homology group is the abelianization of the fundamental group) < 1383106974 958162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: no. the fundamental group version _is_ simpler for 2d. it's just not simpler any more when you increase the dimension. < 1383106986 204969 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1383107036 733343 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you studied this stuff much? < 1383107078 549701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read a book on algebraic topology because one of my old personal mathematical goals was to understand a proof of the jordan-brouwer theorem. < 1383107092 154067 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you win? < 1383107093 77889 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you done that yet? < 1383107123 257680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. also that level allows you to do the fixpoint theorem and invariance of domain approximately as easy. < 1383107140 332022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact the fixpoint theorem is easier, iirc. < 1383107187 991516 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have any goals i guess :( < 1383107264 881155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also we managed to get some homology into one of our published articles on topological measures. < 1383107267 294605 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i for one intend to give a positive answer to the entscheidungsproblem‎ < 1383107281 705259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: a lofty goal, for sure < 1383107299 988301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :might require finding a way to redesign reality first. < 1383107307 328918 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that why you had the five lemma < 1383107313 737049 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or some variant of it < 1383107316 225134 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in an article < 1383107321 191728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: no that was a different article. < 1383107324 769333 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1383107335 352086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one was about dynamical systems < 1383107344 762838 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm? < 1383107344 908331 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :we put a pretty silly homotopy result in an article < 1383107348 840930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just calculated some K-theoretic invariants. < 1383107359 840967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is related to but not the same as homology < 1383107395 202839 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we proved that the sofic shifts are exactly the simplicial complexes up to homotopy equivalence, if you use a certain topology for the shifts) < 1383107409 618204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1383107438 300465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got a book on sofic shifts and stuff but i never actually read it properly. < 1383107471 675306 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a guy from the us at our uni a few weeks ago, he does k-theory and was hoping someone could help him with it < 1383107477 427573 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one did you get? < 1383107501 842326 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://c431376.r76.cf2.rackcdn.com/52139/fncom-07-00098-HTML/image_m/fncom-07-00098-g003.jpg i am t, destroyer of world < 1383107506 129602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the book was by douglas lind, i think < 1383107546 876647 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so symbolic dynamics and coding i guess < 1383107571 282399 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i think so < 1383107594 90206 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking at the amazon page and that's how i recall the book looking < 1383107617 80863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lind was the guy in seattle my advisor was mainly visiting when i was there < 1383107620 592077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1383107621 957430 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you know topology and automata theory, things can be done a lot easier < 1383107626 245696 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :than in that book < 1383107637 237213 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1383107644 582173 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's not bad tho, it's my favorite book and we basically cite it in every article) < 1383107680 974348 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :your advisor was skau? < 1383107774 703388 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have this result that primitive Pisot substitutions generate subshifts which have only finitely many endomorphisms up to a power of the shift (previously known only for uniform substitutions and sturmian ones afaik) < 1383107782 122912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1383107799 263236 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :we sent this to ergodic theory and dynamical systems and the referee told us fuck you read some literature and cite my articles < 1383107806 847072 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(paraphrasing a bit) < 1383107821 999559 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we've done some reading, and skau had some related article < 1383107827 447248 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now i forget what... < 1383107838 687752 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i bump into him a lot these days < 1383107850 789075 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't _quite_ sound like the skau i knew. but i guess he might get angry about such stuff. < 1383107862 887999 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arxiv.org/pdf/0807.3621.pdf < 1383107869 751605 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that him < 1383107891 512329 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not quite related results, but something i feel like i should read < 1383107892 525058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats oklofok for linking directly to the pdf -----### < 1383107896 544737 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1383107903 168752 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :swat google < 1383107906 40443 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :he gave it < 1383107929 560806 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote "skau substitutions bratteli" in the search field < 1383107939 609658 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arxiv.org/abs/0807.3621 < 1383107980 572171 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's pretty close to my phd work < 1383107997 721639 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a small world < 1383108001 105133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm sure i must have got that article at some point < 1383108014 353893 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know mike boyle by any chance < 1383108026 598970 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1383108035 621294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :off by a decade < 1383108058 130590 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1383108077 820137 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 927 < 1383108079 317768 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 927: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1383108080 634963 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :they may have published that in a journal 10 years ago? < 1383108097 970882 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 1999 < 1383108105 307022 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://citeseer.uark.edu:8080/citeseerx/showciting;jsessionid=30F12E707AA136586DCDA2540FD75CB4?cid=556314 < 1383108107 296125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah why won't pdfs open in my browser any more < 1383108116 971367 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had that problem at some point < 1383108118 592969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: mike boyle is a name i've heard < 1383108122 483720 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i err.... don't remember what i did < 1383108133 229200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just don't remember in what context < 1383108140 211257 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boyle visited our university a couple weeks ago < 1383108193 20710 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first thing he said to us was "always nice to meet people who can solve problems i can't" < 1383108207 680150 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i blushed so bad < 1383108226 259774 :^v!~DerpHerp@2601:4:4500:887:4c46:68f9:8c34:b8d8 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1383108249 210897 :^v!~DerpHerp@2601:4:4500:887:4c46:68f9:8c34:b8d8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383108250 884225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recalls a number of names on that citation list < 1383108314 337385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :søren eilers and alan forrest in particular < 1383108347 622726 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ki Hang Kim, Fred Roush <<< these guys are sort of legends < 1383108352 753740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recalls alan forrest arranging whisky tasting for us when he was visiting trondheim < 1383108372 655531 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :never heard of those < 1383108374 38864 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Luca, Q. Zamboni <<< this guy is a visiting professor at our university < 1383108390 210028 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematician and ice rink maintenance inventor < 1383108390 799051 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kim and roush do (well, did) symbolic dynamics < 1383108426 485574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have this vague bell on luca, not sure if i'm confusing him with someone else. < 1383108451 271993 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :luca is easy to confuse (we have another luca at the university for example) < 1383108458 944081 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zamboni is a bit harder < 1383108482 449195 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : they may have published that in a journal 10 years ago? <-- or at least circulating preprints < 1383108509 587877 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i certainly remember durand, he was my thesis opponent < 1383108563 393281 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1383108610 90170 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know alessandro maass < 1383108737 299753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember < 1383108839 173535 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to chile in a few weeks to try to get him to be my postdoc supervisor next year < 1383109210 167164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1383109708 371586 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1383110420 382501 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost thought "The Newsroom" was "Onion News Empire" < 1383110425 400406 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've watched an episode of the latter < 1383110432 668665 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're basically equivalent. < 1383110862 13588 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.avclub.com/articles/amazon-orders-alpha-house-betas-tumbleaf-other-sho,98322/ < 1383110863 871327 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1383110875 127531 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this mean ONE won't be a thing? < 1383110898 824361 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard one was kind of bad anyway < 1383111058 15393 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked it < 1383111114 408596 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I'm sad that ONE wasn't picked up < 1383111142 343867 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i watched the ONE pilot and thought it was pretty good < 1383111162 522804 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well then < 1383111202 553912 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I watched the Betas pilot and though it was pretty bad & borderline offensive, but might go somewhere entertaining < 1383111223 773964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also The Newsroom is really bad & not at all borderline offensive, and deserves to be mocked mercilessly < 1383111234 727752 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I read that ONE was conceived independently and just looks like a parody by coincidence < 1383111246 715058 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION meant "not-at-all-borderline offensive", above < 1383111529 82373 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ONE was the only pilot I watched :/ < 1383111541 609048 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to at least be able to rewatch the pilot, can't even do that < 1383111550 678164 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(At least, not legally, haven't checked non-legally) < 1383111559 194593 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... bet you can do it non-legally < 1383111582 973832 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :god, The Newsroom is so awful < 1383111588 742002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I feel so dirty for watching all of it < 1383111606 681185 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least I can take comfort in the fact that I stole it all < 1383111649 93591 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was close to buying a season of The Newsroom because I thought it was ONE < 1383111651 889821 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1383111657 476798 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you dodged a bullet there < 1383111665 613415 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cool how everyone i know who watched the newsroom hated it and they also watched all of it because of reasons beyond me < 1383111692 805795 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't watch much television < 1383111695 924979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, i don't even own one < 1383111700 550235 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i do own a chromecast < 1383111703 138525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what to do with it < 1383111717 114027 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sell it for scrap < 1383111720 782821 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't watch much TV on the TV < 1383111744 26331 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually, that's a total lie, I do sometimes, just thought it's fun how most of my TV viewing isn't on a TV) < 1383111752 968295 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I'm going to make a serious effort not to start watching Season 3 < 1383111754 857935 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i went to a talk about how the chromecast works, some of it is p. neat < 1383111760 324917 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :godspeed kmc < 1383111774 94011 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not just a shitty show, it's full of socially regressive crap < 1383111805 543081 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i heard about the uganda trip < 1383111805 688653 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it was the latter but not the former < 1383111812 736233 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be worse I guess < 1383111813 199906 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's even worse imo < 1383111816 320510 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1383111995 352340 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1383112539 906412 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of socially regressive crap? < 1383112647 863032 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the white lady who goes to africa and meets a bunch of one-dimensional african characters whose lives and deaths (because africa is a homogenous place of violence) serve only to give her an Emotionally Significant Experience < 1383112736 389875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then when she comes back she changes her appearance and starts having more sex, and there's no way this is a legitimate choice or part of her emotional experience, it's just a cry for help so that the Sensitive Guy will come and fix her < 1383112766 794876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this really goes much deeper than the usual "Sorkin can't write for women" or "Sorkin's female characters are bizarrely incompetent" though there's plenty of that too < 1383112885 616510 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wrongingrights.com/2013/08/time-for-a-bechdel-test-for-african-characters-some-thoughts-on-the-newsrooms-very-special-africa-episode.html on the former < 1383112896 815730 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw an awesome blog < 1383113053 224040 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the sole reason for still watching is that the dialogue is entertainingly snappy < 1383113084 885592 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :again, just what the others say < 1383113089 301874 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1383113100 284882 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you said "reasons beyond me", I think it's pretty simple really < 1383113109 752925 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the full shittiness of the plotline I described was only evident in the final episode < 1383113114 332732 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense i guess. < 1383113144 519725 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that Sorkin is too much of an egomaniac to work with a writing team who can handle things like plot and characters and not being sexist < 1383113734 335840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: trats/ < 1383113913 518306 :^v!~DerpHerp@2601:4:4500:887:4c46:68f9:8c34:b8d8 QUIT :Quit: Ping timeout: 1337 seconds < 1383114704 899735 :asie!~textual@apn-46-76-0-174.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1383117937 334748 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1383118035 737022 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, someone from the department has made a singing voice synthesis listening test, and put a youtube link to a one-hour "best vocaloid songs" mix as a "if you don't know what singing voice synthesis is" postscript in the email. < 1383118101 419944 :asie!~textual@apn-46-76-0-174.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1383118281 151326 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1383119702 556607 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, the listening test itself was just simple sung notes and note sequences and not some strange jpop songs. < 1383119838 638795 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :put some manbo dead behind the house p in there next time < 1383120021 880310 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds kind of alternative. < 1383120050 890208 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated due to multiple third-party notifications of copyright infringement." < 1383120127 17311 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhKIOZnPjtg < 1383120153 883289 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, Google put me to http://vocaloidlist.com/songs.php?artist=Manbo-Dead-Behind-The-House-P already. < 1383120202 899654 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good. < 1383120362 341216 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A touching story. < 1383120373 153613 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1383120628 870100 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:e2cb:4eff:feb2:e567 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383120636 132591 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Simulation of an Analog Circuit of a Wah Pedal: A Port-Hamiltonian Approach" < 1383120643 72968 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fancy title. < 1383120652 819532 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Possibly also: good title for a song?) < 1383120690 981226 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Port-Hamiltonians < 1383120901 856701 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:e2cb:4eff:feb2:e567 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1383120910 376210 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1383120915 868118 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:e2cb:4eff:feb2:e567 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383121257 994806 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1383121382 256728 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1383121632 260764 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1383121792 354164 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1383122044 348754 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1383123188 592796 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1383123560 564368 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1383123720 349603 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1383125173 29900 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383127286 426710 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1383127922 978314 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Megabats constitute the suborder Megachiroptera, family Pteropodidae of the order Chiroptera (bats). They are also called fruit bats, --" megabats! < 1383128606 282294 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1383128742 154179 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1383128967 356716 :Yonkie_!~Yonkie@ip.82.144.199.214.stat.volia.net NICK :Yonkie < 1383129660 707119 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:e2cb:4eff:feb2:e567 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1383129809 889414 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383131185 427447 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.144.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383132771 789151 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1383132885 787159 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1383133815 884646 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1383133931 753981 :lexasi!~guest@188.64.134.19 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383134088 158642 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1383134185 436840 :lexasi!~guest@188.64.134.19 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1383134476 942218 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1383134484 330521 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383135046 899796 :Dandedilia!~daniel@46.115.87.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383135048 699498 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1383135098 819927 :Dandedilia!~daniel@46.115.87.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guten Tag :) < 1383135205 302922 :Dandedilia!~daniel@46.115.87.67 QUIT :Client Quit < 1383135316 195190 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is sad “but, but... I wanted to good morning them...” < 1383135334 493400 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good unmorninged morning... < 1383135881 678435 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unwelcome Dandedilia < 1383135885 741109 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: unwelcome: not found < 1383136666 277481 :dddtest_00177!~dddtest_0@209.208.27.197 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383136693 19926 :dddtest_00177!~dddtest_0@209.208.27.197 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1383136693 165459 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1383136705 954886 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1383136989 241488 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383137145 421067 :dddtest_b6632!~dddtest_b@209.208.27.197 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383137179 856615 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome dddtest_b6632 < 1383137182 753565 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08dddtest_b6632: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02irc.dal.net.) < 1383137777 496342 :dddtest_b6632!~dddtest_b@209.208.27.197 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1383137795 704929 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1383137919 147984 :dddtest_66d7c!~dddtest_6@209.208.27.197 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383138202 294900 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dddtest_66d7c: hi? who are you? what do you think of eggplants? < 1383138560 887991 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1383138814 865131 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1383139559 706107 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1383139874 397594 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1383140444 441152 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What size limits are there to redcode programs? obviously they'd have to be at most (core size)/2 < 1383140473 30952 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@87.113.67.177 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends which simulator / hill you're playing for. < 1383140504 958823 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, okay < 1383140519 350703 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@87.113.67.177 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think pMARS has a hardwired 500 instruction limit. Most of the hills have lower limits. E.g. For CORESIZE 8000 the limit is normally 100 instructions. < 1383140636 218856 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@87.113.67.177 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most successful programs tend to be between 5 and 15 instructions. Any remaining instructions are often used to create a decoy, of for a quick unrolled scan or bombing loop. < 1383140760 302829 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@87.113.67.177 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: are you planning to write something? < 1383140848 80902 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just pondering what a core wars-like befunge-based game could look like < 1383140962 454416 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@87.113.67.177 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure about befunge, but there are a couple of 2D programming games. One is similar to Core War http://corewar.co.uk/corelife < 1383141317 290614 :dddtest_66d7c!~dddtest_6@209.208.27.197 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1383141353 561114 :dddtest_3b44b!~dddtest_3@209.208.27.197 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383141694 178671 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1383141694 531163 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 301300Z 24014KT 15SM FEW020 BKN070 OVC100 02/M02 A3026 RMK SC1AC7AC1 SC TR SLP250 < 1383141715 816630 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange. it's about the same temperature down around dddtest_3b44b's area as here. < 1383141723 986724 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KMCO < 1383141724 320252 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KMCO 301353Z 01007KT 10SM FEW042 SCT085 SCT250 25/19 A3025 RMK AO2 SLP240 T02500194 < 1383141732 393142 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. well. typo on my part. < 1383141745 686445 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval (25 * 9/5) + 32 < 1383141748 192982 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): < 1383141749 436475 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval (25 * 9/5) + 32 < 1383141751 74413 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :77.0 < 1383141754 628002 :dddtest_3b44b!~dddtest_3@209.208.27.197 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1383141861 442105 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1383141882 695719 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-196.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1383141925 848480 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-196.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1383141925 993902 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1383142192 766889 :dddtest_a0970!~dddtest_a@209.208.27.197 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383143000 891903 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1383143403 780938 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1383143501 333686 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383143531 335004 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1383144025 693022 :Faris!~faris@41.140.159.223 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383144080 928367 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on < 1383144085 761586 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got bread in the oven < 1383144107 517381 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is pregnant?? < 1383144199 140502 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad I remembered about that < 1383144206 842514 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ran and it's done to perfection < 1383144220 419128 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how will you call the baby? < 1383144236 277263 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: apparently they've been for the past nine months < 1383144299 419149 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I think Taneb is male. probably. perhaps. maybe. hth. < 1383144311 691072 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so too < 1383144323 706162 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :This development is most surprising < 1383144328 4831 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: how many genders do you possess? < 1383144329 311249 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I'm going to name her "boily" after you < 1383144333 627340 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, at least 5 < 1383144346 705277 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383144352 414548 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm flattered. and perturbed. < 1383144691 607373 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Taneb < 1383144693 596240 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards. (see also: d-modules) < 1383144731 218584 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1383144741 567430 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards, and five genders. (See also: d-modules) < 1383144746 957903 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1383144756 76582 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1383144757 410383 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1383144793 636568 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know HackEgo has `learn < 1383144805 639841 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the de-facto standard way of editing factoids was via sed and cat < 1383144868 564883 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :̀learn obliterates the current wisdom, while sedding and catting and echoing do stuff. < 1383144889 916106 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, naturally < 1383144921 625562 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/2b44fd8613ec/wisdom/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/d I think something might've gone wrong < 1383145061 670299 :Faris!~faris@41.140.159.223 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1383145152 544268 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that is perfectly normal, natural, andddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd < 1383145259 584623 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mkdir wisdom/e; ln -s wisdom/e/e wisdom/e; echo f >wisdom/e/f < 1383145263 828237 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkdir: cannot create directory `wisdom/e': File exists < 1383145269 582501 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :,_, < 1383145299 598357 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I had the argument order to ln wrong anyway < 1383145418 866907 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“ln” is the USB of the software world. you'll get the arguments in the right order after the second swap. < 1383145563 962911 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1383145829 882484 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed < 1383145849 113778 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then again arguably the argument order is sane since it mirrors that of `cp` < 1383146169 111645 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d-modules < 1383146171 381205 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-modules are just modules over the ring of differential operators. Taneb invented them. < 1383146509 140956 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom < 1383146510 589095 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `? \ _̰̆̓_̦̻̖͍̟̖̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_̯͙̬̬̦̯͂͋͒ͧ͋̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞ \ ? \ ?? \ @ \ ⊥ \ ⌨ \ ☃ \ 🐐 \ ̸̸̼͚͇̮͕̳̞̤̜̯̪̪̱̣̠̺̹͍̩̝͚͕͓͚̙͓̪̮̟̜̣͙̪̂ͭ̎̏̔ͦ͒ͪ͌̾ͦͨ̚̚͢͢͠ͅ҉̴̢_͙̣͎͎͙̪̪̝̖͉̟̭̻̥̫̗̱̗͍̳̦̮̟̲̥͔̿̊ͣ̉ͣͪ͒̓̐͊̏ͫ̓̚̚҉̕͜͠͠҉̡̧̛ < 1383146523 428422 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :who fucked it up this time < 1383146554 632931 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.144.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck happened there < 1383146572 529101 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste bin/ls < 1383146575 195294 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/bin/ls < 1383146607 239699 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383146650 772479 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should my Krash language have multiple cars and/or a track with turns? < 1383146658 113377 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1383146661 704264 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1383146673 369445 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1383146688 170790 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does your pancake language not have multiflipping as an operation < 1383146706 882900 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancake_sorting read this, there will be a test in week 1 of term 3 < 1383146728 517425 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1383146733 676909 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ain't in school anymore! MWAH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH! < 1383146742 704766 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but I still have nightmares about it) < 1383146785 116145 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1383146787 443431 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is the brother of Roujo's brother and he's monetizing the company Roujo works at, or something Canadian like that. He's also a NaniDispenser, and a Man Eating Chicken. < 1383147090 833618 :dialektika!~dialektik@188.64.134.19 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383147123 994332 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome dialektika < 1383147126 640834 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08dialektika: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02irc.dal.net.) < 1383147129 479668 :dialektika!~dialektik@188.64.134.19 QUIT :K-Lined < 1383147136 117421 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :excessive < 1383147173 416025 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah. my first witness to a live k-line! < 1383147181 40421 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did they do? < 1383147373 550911 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.144.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably spam somewhere else < 1383147380 235046 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. boring. < 1383147510 140651 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1383147533 367998 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1383147632 762491 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1383147774 803734 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1383147915 782783 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1383148947 678083 :mikajlov!~mikajlov@194.50.9.207 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383149029 316274 :mikajlov!~mikajlov@194.50.9.207 QUIT :K-Lined < 1383149742 381310 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383149955 431436 :^v!~DerpHerp@2601:4:4500:887:a143:da81:44df:c8cd JOIN :#esoteric < 1383150455 122074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1383150888 381575 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1383150917 342402 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1383151108 557270 :Ixxie!~Thunderbi@f213252.upc-f.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1383151134 497981 :Ixxie!~Thunderbi@f213252.upc-f.chello.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey Spags < 1383151134 945157 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1383151136 232923 :Ixxie!~Thunderbi@f213252.upc-f.chello.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup? < 1383151146 904882 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383151181 546368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Ixxie < 1383151183 368457 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1383151184 355089 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13Ixxie: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07irc.dal.net.) < 1383151188 327408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1383151188 766754 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1383151217 525938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/ls < 1383151219 140224 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/ls: No such file or directory < 1383151225 414880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1383151252 467914 :Ixxie!~Thunderbi@f213252.upc-f.chello.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1383151253 890641 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1383151269 725546 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1383151277 616343 :Ixxie!~Thunderbi@f213252.upc-f.chello.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought this was a channel to discuss Esoteric mysticism lol < 1383151296 851861 :Ixxie!~Thunderbi@f213252.upc-f.chello.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that Ewige Blumenkraft deceived me xD < 1383151327 11301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the topics here tend to be deceptive more often than not < 1383151388 187741 :Ixxie!~Thunderbi@f213252.upc-f.chello.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :well deception is awesome < 1383151404 890111 :Ixxie!~Thunderbi@f213252.upc-f.chello.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am very novice in programming, most certainly clueless on esoteric programming < 1383151447 431895 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`undo 3886 < 1383151449 843804 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :patching file ls \ patching file ls < 1383151461 384250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom < 1383151463 200955 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `? \ _̰̆̓_̦̻̖͍̟̖̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_̯͙̬̬̦̯͂͋͒ͧ͋̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞ \ ? \ ?? \ @ \ ⊥ \ ⌨ \ ☃ \ 🐐 \ ̸̸̼͚͇̮͕̳̞̤̜̯̪̪̱̣̠̺̹͍̩̝͚͕͓͚̙͓̪̮̟̜̣͙̪̂ͭ̎̏̔ͦ͒ͪ͌̾ͦͨ̚̚͢͢͠ͅ҉̴̢_͙̣͎͎͙̪̪̝̖͉̟̭̻̥̫̗̱̗͍̳̦̮̟̲̥͔̿̊ͣ̉ͣͪ͒̓̐͊̏ͫ̓̚̚҉̕͜͠͠҉̡̧̛ < 1383151472 439775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that didn't actually help < 1383151475 791656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/ls < 1383151477 248359 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/ls: No such file or directory < 1383151487 171081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1383151493 634029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/ls < 1383151494 999949 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ if /bin/ls -id "$@" 2>/dev/null | grep -q ^969195 ; then echo 'As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead.'; else exec -a ls /bin/ls "$@"; fi < 1383151512 832689 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv bin/ls\ bin/ls < 1383151516 824222 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1383151520 818267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/ls < 1383151522 323863 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ if /bin/ls -id "$@" 2>/dev/null | grep -q ^969195 ; then echo 'As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead.'; else exec -a ls /bin/ls "$@"; fi < 1383151524 833869 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383151526 506245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom < 1383151528 426242 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead. < 1383151566 734056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems zzo38 broke that for some reason. perhaps even a good one. < 1383151626 878681 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't ls simply be outside of HackEgo's home dir? < 1383151636 886280 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1383151681 10309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: the default one, yes. < 1383151689 186317 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I just noticed the purpose of bin/ls < 1383151707 870023 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I helps to actually read all the HackEgo output before writing stuff < 1383151784 480032 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1383151803 516453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh it's not very useful after the nicks got shuffled off the end by the weird symbols. < 1383151894 175056 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383151921 283001 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1383151923 471035 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then again it's not as annoying as `list is < 1383151950 715986 :Ixxie!~Thunderbi@f213252.upc-f.chello.nl PART :#esoteric < 1383152073 396407 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1383152090 642243 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1383152134 291140 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maybe “`ls wisdom” should point to the PDF? < 1383152169 309037 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 why did you break the list that should be broken? (if you had a good reason, please disreregard this message.) < 1383152169 454885 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1383152169 651248 :cybercortex!~cybercort@203.214.68.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383152173 329486 :cybercortex!~cybercort@203.214.68.129 QUIT :Client Quit < 1383152177 514781 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh darn. < 1383152187 808760 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 shouldn't. not should. as it should. < 1383152187 953920 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1383152217 101864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i thought the first fit. the ls _should_ be broken for wisdom. < 1383152265 70501 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 well, it all depends on your point of oerjan. < 1383152265 215775 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1383152275 39975 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 (sorry for spamming.) < 1383152275 185486 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1383152288 289687 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there, that should make it. < 1383152316 614974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i shall amuse myself by letting you change bin/ls to point to the pdf. < 1383152340 530464 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm. < 1383152425 779798 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka "sed, the comedic farce tool" < 1383152428 518175 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1383152451 133139 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ain't be using the sed-mower on ls. too dangerous. < 1383152480 281318 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1383152483 980190 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but! < 1383152492 118158 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll trying echoing it. < 1383152529 894833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka "shell escaping, the comedic farce tool" < 1383152606 773514 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's:`pastewisdom:https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf:' bin/ls # ought to work < 1383152608 401016 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 22: unknown option to `s' < 1383152620 70114 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.> < 1383152632 386202 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's#`pastewisdom#https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf#' bin/ls # ought to work < 1383152636 895130 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1383152640 523818 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom < 1383152642 279632 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf instead. < 1383152652 356071 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aurgh! < 1383152671 15933 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just as I was typing the Glorious Command, I was outfireflied. < 1383152696 37688 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION smacks FireFly with leaning toothpicks < 1383152696 243353 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Just be comforted by the fact that you'd probably have screwed it up somehow. < 1383152709 231670 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's besides the point. < 1383152737 434341 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders whether to `revert < 1383152741 193490 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.144.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat wisdom/bonvenon < 1383152742 821004 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonvenon Bonvenon al la internacia centro por la desegno kaj ellaso de esoteraj programlingvoj! Por pli da informado, vizitu la Viki-o: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Por la alia speco de esotero, iru al #esoteric sur irc.dal.net.) < 1383152755 309574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1383152783 167099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/bonvenon //' wisdom/bonvenon < 1383152787 403105 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1383152796 681323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone doesn't understand `learn. < 1383152800 473193 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.144.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/Viki-o/Viki-on/' wisdom/bonvenon < 1383152804 497899 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1383152812 964115 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.144.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the accusative, for that matter < 1383152828 49516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect google did that? < 1383152830 141009 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.144.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the culprit is... me... < 1383152835 253400 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1383152846 865753 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should it be "vizitu la Viki-on"? < 1383152848 667612 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.144.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was my first day in #esoteric too. or second. something like that < 1383152861 7889 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1383152876 797892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: um like, he changed it right there. < 1383152881 951316 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do I risk getting changed into my Jake English cosplay now, or in an hour and three quarters? < 1383152882 947531 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.144.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: yeah. "la Viki-on" is a direct object < 1383152904 638857 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sorry my brain filters all lines that contain too much slashes < 1383152917 18749 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/much/many < 1383152954 729031 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :say, supposing that we may hypothetically have a quenya (and/or sindarin) welcome some day in the foreseeable future, what kind of encoding should we use? < 1383153003 307539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i note that typing "jake english" into google automatically adds "cosplay" as a suggestion < 1383153010 773751 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: The ConScript one? < 1383153017 611577 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.144.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://std.dkuug.dk/JTC1/SC2/WG2/docs/n1641/n1641.htm < 1383153063 354577 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't use the Everson proposal directly because it has "xx"s in the codepoints. < 1383153072 993909 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Is the ConScript just that directly mapped, though? It might be.) < 1383153155 491584 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.evertype.com/standards/csur/tengwar.html sure looks pretty similar. < 1383153207 539567 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but the dkuug version suggests U+1CC00..U+1CC7F, which makes more sense. < 1383153252 122873 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You can't just randomly select currently unused code points. < 1383153273 50427 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beuh. if only it were that simple. < 1383153296 355996 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you realize 99.9% of everyone won't see it properly anyway. < 1383153302 48087 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: At least the ConScript registry lives inside the private use area and so won't be trampled by actual Unicode, and there's several fonts with Tengwar characters in the code points proposed there. < 1383153316 121655 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That sounds like an underestimate. < 1383153346 226721 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The following Unicode sample (which repeats the one above) is meaningful when viewed under a typeface supporting tengwar glyphs in the area defined in the ConScript tengwar proposal. Some typefaces that support this proposal are Everson Mono, Tengwar Telcontar, Constructium, Tengwar Formal Unicode, and FreeMonoTengwar --" <-- see, several. < 1383153522 677534 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1383153548 954742 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Alternatively, you could encode it in three different ways (Everson's original suggestion, the CSUR private-use block, and the de-facto on-top-of-ISO-8859-1 encoding), and provide three welcomes. < 1383153717 81120 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds painful. exactly what is needed to assenate on newcomers. < 1383153744 47623 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :𜰀 < 1383153857 61574 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with webclients and suchlike, Everson's proposition should be typeset first, imho. < 1383153876 432565 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@87.113.67.177 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Random question: is anyone here at The University of Western Ontario? < 1383153897 550325 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you're using weechat, check this out → http://cormier.github.io/glowing-bear/) < 1383153918 620473 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :john_metcalf: coppro is probably close. < 1383153940 435549 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :john_metcalf: I'm at Waterloo < 1383153947 96665 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why ask-you? < 1383153960 136120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Waterlooo... < 1383153983 300376 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1383154034 711212 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan appears to have met his Waterloo < 1383154082 450047 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe JOIN :#esoteric < 1383154219 270556 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why *don't* we have tengwar and klingon `welcome variants, by the way? < 1383154257 823646 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1383154524 193251 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1383154810 440849 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1383154901 276696 :^v!~DerpHerp@2601:4:4500:887:a143:da81:44df:c8cd QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1383154925 418959 :^v!~DerpHerp@2601:4:4500:887:a143:da81:44df:c8cd JOIN :#esoteric < 1383155277 619292 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1383155382 256007 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1383156068 99198 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since the previous one was so popular: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCXR1sHfccY < 1383156204 517008 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1383156222 408019 :Slereah!~jackal@80.12.100.94 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383156318 291464 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, another one! < 1383156329 437000 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and a subtle “A!”) < 1383156409 673848 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I think I'll make a winter one in, well, the winter. < 1383156440 861093 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the A! gets lit up near the end. < 1383156449 97670 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, spoiler warning. < 1383156640 129324 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1383156686 60434 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1383157111 184740 :Slereah_!x@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383157146 767095 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@87.113.67.177 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Just I was trying to contact someone at UWO, but his email address is bouncing. < 1383157201 65817 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@87.113.67.177 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a new email address to try now though... < 1383157233 375988 :Slereah!~jackal@80.12.100.94 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1383157241 885441 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok < 1383157556 331069 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383158192 538207 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1383158222 745975 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1383159322 634707 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1383159402 401185 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1383159643 505353 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, i like this problem. pick a point on a side of the unit square, and then another point on a different side. what's the expected value of the distance between the two points? < 1383159662 664443 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: depends on the randomization algorithm you use < 1383159717 424797 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uniform distributions. < 1383159761 492713 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.121 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1383160442 89345 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uniform distribution → http://www.canadianlinen.com/~/media/Images/Home%20Banner/pyyco-ca.ashx < 1383160502 807422 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i get it. it's a pun. since that company distributes uniforms. < 1383160945 2795 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1383161069 916859 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1383161310 330400 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1383161644 291266 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383161648 215362 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey guys. < 1383161661 561797 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm trying to come up with an esolang consisting entirely of syntactic sugar for a Turing machine. < 1383161694 922874 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was published in sigbovik once. < 1383161702 630786 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it? < 1383161714 875094 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. it was called "cell" or suchlike. looked like Java. < 1383161724 677173 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting. < 1383161832 939058 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured I'd feel my way through this esolang by writing a description of a Turing machine which lazily evaluates SKI calculus. < 1383161840 118480 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can't think of a great way for a Turing machine to do that. < 1383161843 212165 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turing machines kinda suck. < 1383161871 283925 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1383161968 433595 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, let's see. Data types will be defined using unions and cartesian products. Each data type will have to be finite, so recursion will be prohibited. < 1383162002 891108 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :nisstyre < 1383162007 971836 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, found it. < 1383162051 466842 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A function can take values of data types and return values of data types. Functions can call each other, but not recursively. < 1383162112 206535 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brother Jonathan Aldrich. (2010). "Holy States Can Save the World!" _Proceedings of the SIGBOVIK Conference, 2010_. pages 67-69. < 1383162116 25825 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it has a DOI :( < 1383162213 178198 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i think the proceedings might actually be titled "The 9th Biarennial Workshop about Symposium on Robot Dance Party of Conference in Celebration of Harry Q. Bovik's 0x40 Birthday". < 1383162253 645630 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of wish macron notation for hexadecimal were common. < 1383162265 27493 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0̄, 1̄, 2̄, 3̄, 4̄, 5̄. < 1383162292 294593 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, alternatively (and incompatibly), 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 0̄, 1̄, 2̄, 3̄, 4̄, 5̄, 6̄, 7̄. < 1383162292 439688 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1383162441 41695 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy 0x73̄3̄0̄14̄, everyone! < 1383162538 381474 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh, it took me like 10 seconds to notice the little lines in this font < 1383162541 655486 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do those use combining macrons, or are they separate dedicated codepoints for digits with macron above? < 1383162557 835734 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those use combining macrons. < 1383162619 533425 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 0̸, 1̸, 2̸, 3̸, 4̸, 5̸, 6̸, 7̸... < 1383162644 799576 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/4UnBlTo.png it looks like this here < 1383162649 709606 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1383162652 183463 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we should be more concise and call this day 0x1̄372̄3. The number of days since January 1, 1 (counting both endpoints) in the extrapolated Gregorian calendar. < 1383162666 114722 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett_: I don't < 1383162694 729106 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: sweet. < 1383162915 59943 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the seven < 1383162917 992817 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is um is that how it's supposed to look < 1383162950 286380 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0ᷝ, 1ᷝ, 2ᷝ, 3ᷝ, 4ᷝ, 5ᷝ < 1383162963 946832 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(From the oft-repeated l <=> 1 font confusion.) < 1383162966 972302 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :those sure are some defaultian boxes. < 1383163018 825858 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 2ᷝ < 1383163020 592796 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0032 DIGIT TWO] [U+1DDD COMBINING LATIN SMALL LETTER L] < 1383163082 838525 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wh... why does that exist? < 1383163130 108410 :dsolonin!~dsolonin@dial-5-178-58-6.orange.sk JOIN :#esoteric < 1383163157 372180 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1383163178 484176 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a random sampling of combining latin letters, probably each for some specialized use. < 1383163181 498737 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/RLCG < 1383163209 836138 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But of course not the *full* set, that would be ridiculous. < 1383163271 332985 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol they're not even contiguous, huh < 1383163287 203489 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you presumptuous indecent heretic! don't you realise that your Soul is Bound by False Assumptions, such as the Alphabetical Order of the Devil? < 1383163298 606783 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i've often thought to myself, "i need a combining æ" < 1383163441 608458 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/K13iNB3.png is what they look like for me < 1383163507 901830 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily's look almost like katakana :-) < 1383163522 788333 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, hiragana. < 1383163640 445722 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :めイスわすちるヌ... < 1383163895 818610 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa Man < 1383163905 103739 :Slereah_!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://asset-0.soup.io/asset/5997/1518_0c8a.jpeg < 1383163977 215695 :dsolonin!~dsolonin@dial-5-178-58-6.orange.sk QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1383164018 219370 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode めイスわすちるヌ < 1383164020 60457 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+3081 HIRAGANA LETTER ME] [U+30A4 KATAKANA LETTER I] [U+30B9 KATAKANA LETTER SU] [U+308F HIRAGANA LETTER WA] [U+3059 HIRAGANA LETTER SU] [U+3061 HIRAGANA LETTER TI] [U+308B HIRAGANA LETTER RU] [U+30CC KATAKANA LETTER NU] < 1383164028 324711 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TI? < 1383164043 350392 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. I assume that's the same thing as "chi". < 1383164060 802738 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but... ow... < 1383164063 289785 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, it says "me isu wasuchiru nu" or something. < 1383164079 45106 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of like the idea of using "ti" instead of "chi". < 1383164080 464192 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... tried to match the slashed digits to the best of my ability. < 1383164112 629401 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ヌ works pretty well, but everything else is... you'd have to be on the same stuff as I am, mon... < 1383164125 84494 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(namely, oolong tea, third cup of the day.) < 1383164152 512587 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dang, they do look like that. < 1383164235 793184 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :エスクリボエスパニョルエンカタカナ < 1383164237 468809 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Third cup? < 1383164258 997402 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mug. ~10 oz porcelain container. tasse à café. < 1383164260 767137 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :laced with mdma. < 1383164266 336661 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :note to self: cut down on your tea consumption < 1383164274 444140 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :メプレグントシアルギエンプエデエンテンデルエスト < 1383164292 168102 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that Spanish??? < 1383164294 744509 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1383164306 616269 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're all invited to my party < 1383164312 522306 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION *SMACKS* tswett_ with his mug'o'tea < 1383164312 846384 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell ya < 1383164322 38742 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: woot! will there be cookies? < 1383164350 2075 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. Google Translate translates "メプレグントシアルギエンプエデエンテンデルエスト" as "Pregnant memory client sialic Guillen Puede yen Ten del Est". < 1383164363 412316 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1383164380 316916 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I shall not. tea makes me calm and serene, without any trace of violence. < 1383164394 247620 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no. but there might be biscuits. < 1383164417 292745 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net TOPIC #esoteric :Pregnant memory client sialic Guillen Puede yen Ten del Est | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ or http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1383164443 371356 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, I should try oolong. I've grown a bit tired of earl grey anyway < 1383164455 881379 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that's "mepureguntoshiarugienpuedeentenderuesuto", apparently. So "puregunto" must have become "pregnant", and "shiaru gien puede en ten deru esuto" became "sialic Guillen Puede yen Ten del Est". < 1383164460 883879 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "me" must have become "memory". < 1383164486 886256 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1383164594 445110 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ゼメポズボクデケスチオン… < 1383164670 288482 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :”Zemepozubokudekesuchion”, eh? < 1383164681 861436 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ” < 1383164683 720178 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+201D RIGHT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK] < 1383164707 755565 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dang, I didn't know my quotation marks were so fancy. < 1383164752 926043 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whelp, I'm gonna head out. See you guys. < 1383164755 48040 :tswett_!2328a4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.164.252 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1383164848 990503 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more languages need the [ʒ]. that sound is sublime. < 1383165056 487297 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1383165535 860888 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1383165902 676716 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.144.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there combining diactritics for (han)dakuten < 1383165944 511292 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, only fancy double quotes as seen in books. < 1383165946 885701 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1383165976 456178 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.144.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy double quotes? < 1383166006 94529 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the opening and closing ones, as opposed to the «"». < 1383166026 782669 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_quote#Typing_quotation_marks_on_a_computer_keyboard < 1383166077 496258 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :『「«“‘"'"’”»」』 < 1383166080 744845 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.144.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah < 1383166196 424337 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.144.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ガギグゲゴ ← コレモツカワレル. (wow they're actually treated as single entities?! i guess they actually are "combining") < 1383166213 539826 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.144.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you can still copy just a ゙. weird < 1383166303 771453 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :そうですね < 1383166498 252930 :Faris!~faris@41.140.159.223 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383166596 518768 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1383166878 41533 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can see UAX #29 for the typically Unicodean definition of "grapheme clusters" (aka "user-perceived characters"), which are the things that "commonly behave as units in terms of mouse selection, arrow key movement, backspacing, and so on". < 1383166930 763121 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It only includes 13 rules.) < 1383166933 950948 :Faris!~faris@41.140.159.223 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1383166942 807154 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's uh, different from "glyphs" and "characters", is it < 1383166962 394063 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it's different < 1383166980 256722 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does Unicode have a definition of "character"? < 1383167016 938924 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Something like four of them. < 1383167029 464265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is text shaping even within scope for Unicode? that is, does it specify precisely how a sequence of e.g. Devanagari characters should appear on the screen? < 1383167056 785236 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does it just provide the lower-level character attributes for text shaping libraries and font formats to define these things? < 1383167182 524741 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, but if it does say something about that, it's going to say it in one of the annexes, which do not always require particular things for conformance, but rather provide guidance. < 1383167188 834263 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ICU seems to have some shaping code < 1383167200 564453 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HarfBuzz is what everyone uses for shaping, in the open-source world < 1383167262 102988 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like the grapheme boundary annex, which specifies a "default" and mentions that more sophisticated implementations "can and should" be more sophisticated. < 1383167286 186433 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, a grapheme cluster is certainly different from a glyph. < 1383167431 241018 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(E.g. ligatures are often a single glyph but generally not a single grapheme cluster.) < 1383167443 930212 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1383167486 410371 :dddtest_a0970!~dddtest_a@209.208.27.197 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1383167528 837944 :dddtest_3df87!~dddtest_3@209.208.27.197 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383167598 889495 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/ibogost/status/395659453405474816/photo/1 < 1383167623 172411 :Slereah_!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best games < 1383167944 626352 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1383167993 178796 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1383168178 3632 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1383168375 90177 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: トマトマトマトマト < 1383168738 847325 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mightygodking.com/index.php/2008/04/21/fun-from-yesterday/ < 1383168749 293546 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buzz Aldrin Space Rainbow Tennis < 1383168763 754395 :dddtest_3df87!~dddtest_3@209.208.27.197 QUIT :K-Lined < 1383168840 172206 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :took me too long to realize they weren't real < 1383168877 996249 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Man, Twizzlers < 1383168941 786837 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kool-Aid_Man#In_popular_culture v. encyclopedic < 1383169427 485515 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... is there any esolang based on petri nets? < 1383169440 193391 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i'd totally love that < 1383169545 514210 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1383169920 495241 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh yeah < 1383170383 235161 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is none? really < 1383170392 332518 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to fix that! < 1383170637 61724 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://slbkbs.org/the-new-ops.png < 1383170638 856413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember that < 1383170639 922424 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good times < 1383170753 918011 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have many strange files in my web server directory < 1383170810 584886 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.144.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: good image < 1383170880 182630 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1383171441 515406 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1383172141 251766 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1383172918 100090 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1383172954 895336 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1383173100 129685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1383173212 889164 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1383173789 836848 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1383173814 722334 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1383174601 696763 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.biostars.org/p/85108/ cool, bioinformatics is now at the "mock people's operating systems" stage of programming knowhow < 1383174869 941314 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258] < 1383175351 365814 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1383176321 183461 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric