< 1384301156 731435 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vyxexkezxgdfudrp JOIN :#esoteric < 1384301279 867568 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1384302259 891472 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1384302354 5534 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-18-196.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1384302384 866018 :nathnath!~fransingo@cpc36-brad20-2-0-cust431.17-1.cable.virginm.net PART :#esoteric < 1384302768 752294 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1384302835 860500 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1384304204 327651 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1384304325 671339 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1384304358 567911 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1384304505 123658 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PART #esoteric :"http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere." < 1384304770 372374 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384304870 602486 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-18-196.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1384304923 183741 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1384304984 851326 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT : < 1384305164 765602 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1384306058 362311 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1384306305 327511 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.72.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384306480 824277 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.72.124 NICK :tertu < 1384306558 729181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Semigroupoids are like the vegetarian version <-- i don't see the need for the term semigroupoid, since categories are identical. < 1384306576 100787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1384306902 507627 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prefer non-associative semigroupoids < 1384307140 181260 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Uh, i thought semigroupoids are categories sans id. But i probably remember incorrectly. < 1384307149 521396 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"On Windows, we cannot make a flie named 'aux'. So It doesn't make src/components/main/layout/aux.rs on Win" < 1384307152 421408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :best platform ever < 1384307187 696031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the top hit for magmoid is relevant, dunno about the rest. < 1384307264 155052 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: :-D < 1384307350 349280 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vyxexkezxgdfudrp QUIT : < 1384307367 938552 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, AUX is a DOS device name in Windows. So is CON, PRN, COM1, COM2, LPT1, etc. Yes it can be a problem, such as that one. < 1384307412 583419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :con.carne < 1384307427 748126 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who here remembers < 1384307449 171550 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should have perhaps used a symbol at front which isn't used in actual filenames, in DOS 1.0, but that isn't what they did. < 1384307467 665768 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: \o/ < 1384307468 169654 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   | < 1384307468 326142 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  /< < 1384307480 656702 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :click here < 1384307494 436144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :90s Kids Remember These 12 IE5 DoS Exploits < 1384307551 905845 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have done in some versions of ZZT, made a link to CON in a menu, which caused strange things to happen. In the latest version I believe that bug is fixed and a link to CON is an error. < 1384307575 770560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: that is correct. thus semigroupoids are not identical, but categories are. < 1384307936 174285 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oooh, i see what you did there. < 1384307991 80647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :puns: sometimes they get too deep and sink < 1384308020 155514 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially funpuns < 1384308051 789853 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sunk columbus, oh < 1384308064 121920 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1384308280 74003 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1384308341 176217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hell, no < 1384308430 895154 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any good amateur philosophy subreddits? I get the impression that /r/philosophy isn't one. I want to rant about how "same" is a silly concept < 1384308441 949003 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god < 1384308476 681644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"amateur philosophy subreddit" ;_; < 1384308501 531739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i think we need to find such a subreddit to ask whether it's ethical to answer that question < 1384308530 518600 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you enjoy arguing with programmers who have never taken a philosophy class or read a book but think that they're automatically an expert because humanities are for dumb people < 1384308531 436681 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Not just any amateur, *good* amateur. < 1384308573 868816 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, kmc, I have a criticism of Rust in regards to macros < 1384308574 25221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least when they do this about philosophy it's of no real consequence to anyone < 1384308609 109536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/askphilosophers seems empty < 1384308616 776611 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: oh? < 1384308628 294061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(based on r/askhistorians, it was the obvious place) < 1384308648 625970 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To make this behavior more obvious, the rule has been made that use-statement always need to be written before any declaration, like in the example above. This is a purely artificial rule introduced because people always assumed they shadowed each other based on order, despite the fact that all items in rust are mutually recursive, order independent definitions." < 1384308694 579314 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having artificial restrictions like this could hinder the ability for macros to emit such code without regard to their location in the file, or mixing two separate macros that both expand to use-statements and declarations < 1384308708 355025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/askphilosophy looks promising < 1384308719 677557 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm lagging a bit < 1384308742 251488 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: interesting < 1384308749 251180 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure that macros can even emit "use" items at the moment < 1384308751 197970 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think they can < 1384308755 759660 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rust-http generates whole modules from macros < 1384308773 35862 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, another confusing consequence of that is "use foo::Bar; ...; mod foo;" < 1384308777 58370 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must be in that order and not the other < 1384308796 650564 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's another similar artificial restriction that's related (external mod, I think?) but same concept/concern < 1384308841 353120 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mod foo;" is a definition and not just a declaration; it creates a module named "foo", but it grabs the module contents from an external file foo.rs and so it doesn't really "look like" a definition < 1384308963 533735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you should start reddit.com/r/Sgeo < 1384309019 665950 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's such a good idea, I'll hop in my time machine and do it a year ago < 1384309074 406110 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I wanted to see what the mod tools were like) < 1384309094 599150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I CAN SEE THAT < 1384309095 268319 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's private :'( < 1384309098 188275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nothing else < 1384309116 301292 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was hoping for a place full of Sgeoy things < 1384309127 214596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as «Are there any good amateur philosophy subreddits? I get the impression that /r/philosophy isn't one. I want to rant about how "same" is a silly concept» < 1384309139 536673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: are you sure this would be safe? < 1384309139 692893 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :did sgeo say that < 1384309164 285339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: for whom < 1384309167 320011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well he said the same thing < 1384309184 882005 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, indeed he did < 1384309207 758908 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good amateur philosophy subreddit presumes good amateur philosophy < 1384309208 958472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether this means he said that, you'll have to ask an amateur philosopher. < 1384309217 782180 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well, it could be empty < 1384309224 37663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :checkmate < 1384309227 250028 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn. < 1384309239 999535 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: for the universe. maybe it would turn reddit into a black hole or something. < 1384309252 819299 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :could make /r/BikeGetsOwned. only user is shachaf < 1384309261 6709 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just constantly burning me left and right < 1384309319 795377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION remembers to drink his irange juice
< 1384309320 952939 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other day i found reddit.com/r/magicskyfairy which seems to be a sort of improvement on reddit.com/r/atheism < 1384309339 289642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what that is, i thought it was orange but the keyboard doesn't lie < 1384309372 823730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the true spirit of reddit, i think < 1384309393 481311 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha an improvement on /r/atheism < 1384309425 781042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :/r/atheism, now with blackjack and hookers < 1384309435 415865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*but with < 1384309457 154936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hard to believe, i know < 1384309648 416899 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have heard a lot, many people think of "God" as the "magic sky fairy" and is why those people don't believe in such things. Other people are not so dumb. And learn ignosticism too. < 1384309713 782851 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : are antipodes related to octopodes <-- whatever you do, don't mix them, especially not in 8:1 proportion < 1384309776 936928 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, i heat my house with that energy. < 1384309835 584411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you get a nice tan from the gamma rays? < 1384309867 923021 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only cos. < 1384309925 676823 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get really nervous whenever I add an rm -rf rule to a makefile < 1384309970 155237 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1384310041 215810 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't think it's *why* those people don't believe in a god, it's just a way to make fun of people who do < 1384310081 915714 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Probably you are correct at least in some cases. I don't know if it is true in all cases. < 1384310091 807934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dislike religion immensely but that kind of mockery is probably bad and unhelpful < 1384310111 605826 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you are correct, it isn't very helpful. < 1384310142 813070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing that most of the Angry Internet Atheists tend to miss is that religions fulfill like 30 different social roles, many of which have nothing to do with superstition or metaphysics < 1384310151 478490 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact that they are tied up with superstition and metaphysics is historical baggage < 1384310165 533257 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is true too, you do make the good points too < 1384310170 293806 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray < 1384310372 405437 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ignosticism should be a thing. You just don't think about the existence of god < 1384310383 230124 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a thing < 1384310387 336257 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 just recommended it < 1384310398 440872 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've heard it called "apatheism" as well) < 1384310403 56106 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wow, it is a thing < 1384310409 469460 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it actually means the belief that questions of theism can't be dealt with without an adequate definition of 'god' etc < 1384310414 974000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are other positions like, "whether god exists is an ill-posed question" < 1384310433 617096 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is different from "i don't care" and also different from the traditional agnostic "we can't ever know" < 1384310443 165006 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"whether god exists is independent of the axioms of ZFC" < 1384310452 191464 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes that is what I meant < 1384310466 654762 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: That one's a little better < 1384310471 959381 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: [gödel joke] < 1384310497 663667 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course we can talk about systems ZFC+Θ and ZFC+¬Θ < 1384310513 327963 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I think that is correct, whether or not God exists is an ill-posed question. < 1384310523 976514 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can God create a statement of number theory which is so self referential that even He cannot prove or disprove it < 1384310577 895939 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume that Gödel actually said something about that at some point < 1384310579 819497 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know what? < 1384310600 462311 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i was referring to godel's attempted proof of god's existence < 1384310608 181241 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I figured < 1384310640 951875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: do you know if he said anything about it? < 1384310661 254438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it is similar to other simpler theological puzzles such as, can god create an object which is both light and heavy < 1384310668 316468 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a glass which is both empty and full < 1384310679 243199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(can god create an object whose inertial mass differs from its gravitational mass?) < 1384310738 432991 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, temporal logic < 1384310757 316929 :drlemon!~drlemon@cpe-108-185-0-32.socal.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1384310770 191646 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I suppose they might be possible, but not in this universe (by definition) < 1384310774 784917 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1384310788 374122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can god create a new universe where naive set theory is consistent < 1384310797 164808 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a philosopher buddy of mine happened to be reading a book on godel's philosophical influences, perhaps it is relevant http://www.amazon.com/After-Godel-Platonism-Rationalism-Mathematics/dp/019960620X < 1384310819 347192 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for that, i <3 psychologism~ < 1384310824 84666 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: But set theory is mathematics, not physics. Therefore the question is wrong. < 1384310827 106885 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i don't "read books" or anything like this < 1384310861 462471 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh? < 1384310890 333520 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: uh, i think that's explicitly the question < 1384310902 669343 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :of whether maths had to be the same in all "universes" < 1384310914 352457 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1384310924 408617 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it does have to be the same. < 1384310950 325088 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about the fact that YHWH apparenly thinks that pi=3.0? < 1384310958 247051 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: I guess my view is a form of agnosticism, in that I believe any evidence of God which is admissible to a finite mind would be better explained (c.f. occam's razor) with beings of finite power instead < 1384310963 504644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"god doesn't exist, aliens are just fucking with you" < 1384310965 658408 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: That is simply an error in the Bible. < 1384310979 685947 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any book can contain errors. < 1384310996 375190 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: so I can't assert "there is no god" but i have no reason to believe there is one, and I never could < 1384311004 646402 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so i'd say that no universe where naive set theory is consistent exists < 1384311013 66800 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think this relies heavily on my definition of "exists" < 1384311013 463955 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: many people believe quite explicitly that the Bible is exempt from that fact about books < 1384311017 65828 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I can get down with a little Lovecraftian theology, sure < 1384311023 383136 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: heh is that what we call it < 1384311052 863674 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However if you say God created that, God did that, deliberately, accidentally, by choice, by having no choice, etc, it is just metaphorical and why should we think it is applicable to God in the same way it is to us? Probably it isn't. < 1384311059 760846 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how about the statement that you're in a simulation? < 1384311068 395189 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :could naive set theory be consistent in this cardboard box right here < 1384311074 656064 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no. < 1384311077 521744 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds exciting because maybe there are cheat codes < 1384311081 473865 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :People think of God as a Person, but that is silly and stupid. < 1384311097 903929 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: The Axiom of the Carboard Box says it is < 1384311107 232561 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: hmm, it depends on what you mean by "simulation" < 1384311107 840901 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still it can be a metaphor when some people draw the picture (which is a representation, as inaccurate as others); it is not the kind of metaphor I prefer however. < 1384311114 306649 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: are you sure. have you even seen the box! < 1384311129 747778 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: does the cardboard box exist? if so then i'm sure < 1384311131 188270 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty nice. filled with books. books i like, so objectively good < 1384311149 466712 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're that sure huh < 1384311150 303325 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.72.124 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1384311155 59701 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: depends how? < 1384311163 730342 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Weak Axiom of the Cardboard Box says it might be consistent in a certain neighborhood of the box. < 1384311176 886066 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Axiom of the Weak Cardboard Box says that the box might fall apart under stress. < 1384311177 502150 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which topology < 1384311184 927303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: http://lesswrong.com/lw/qk/ < 1384311203 619083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: if I take a red pill and trip balls and emerge naked from a pod of alien goo, I'll probably conclude that I was in a simulation before, but maybe aliens are just tricking me, but if their trick is sufficiently advanced then maybe it counts as a simulation too < 1384311227 705967 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose i could have said "why is 'X theory is consistent' a statement you make about places" directly but i like boxes < 1384311243 756380 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the simulation in, then? < 1384311251 34752 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :intercal < 1384311256 37821 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turtle < 1384311264 915341 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how do you decide whether pre or post red pill is the simulation? < 1384311272 407969 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and who is emerging from the pod < 1384311309 331455 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :valid questions too < 1384311313 267815 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway i'm specifically considering the statement that the whole universe is more or less how it looks except it's a simulation inside a larger universe < 1384311316 189663 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I" is a leaky abstraction < 1384311333 646281 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it seems like no evidence could convince me of that for the same reason none could convince me of god < 1384311338 85575 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, maybe < 1384311338 548163 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is good, because it allows some p. cool exploits < 1384311341 901253 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will think about that more < 1384311354 338668 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet it seems odd to assign that statement extremely small probability < 1384311367 370047 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :given the arguments about how the universe is probably a simulation, etc < 1384311376 641899 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hey, i read a nice paper about this once, let me see if i can find it again < 1384311376 798216 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the simulation have to be in a larger universe? < 1384311390 590217 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the universe is a simulation, although I cannot discard that hypothesis. < 1384311393 854315 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :people write papers about brains in vats all the time though :/ < 1384311394 641835 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i think i have to say that "the universe is a simulation" is not a meaningful statement, since only things in the universe "are" < 1384311404 100740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think the problem is that "naive set theory" refers to something within this universe. < 1384311406 859594 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is universe in, anyways? < 1384311413 697633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you assume mathematics can vary over universes then "naive set theory" as a concept is local to this one < 1384311434 72710 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :here it is, drevil.pdf < 1384311444 989760 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what evidence might cause you to increase or decrease your confidence in that hypothesis? < 1384311447 143238 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :naive set theory is local to this box < 1384311468 262046 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: So the Axioms of the Cardboard Box are consistent < 1384311470 48832 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet < 1384311472 726506 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1384311472 916312 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume mathematics is fixed and cannot vary over universes. However, if a mathematical theory is inconsistent (i.e. all well-formed statements are theorems) then it isn't a Mathematical Truth. < 1384311475 886565 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should find some actual space aliens and ask them what their mathematics is like < 1384311476 408287 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you compare the probability of the universe being a simulation with the probability of in-universe aliens trolling you < 1384311482 134198 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Defeating Dr. Evil with self-locating belief", if anyone's interested. < 1384311484 227708 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you ever dream maths? < 1384311499 408972 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i dream maths it's all wrong < 1384311508 451326 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i have a fantasy of running some AI simulations and seeing what they can come up with under various developmental schemes. < 1384311514 821890 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I sometimes to dream about mathematical things < 1384311518 950829 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :things feel like proofs that certainly are not proofs < 1384311535 325901 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sometimes finish proofs while I'm asleep < 1384311537 922877 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i find deeply disconcerting < 1384311556 461982 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dr Evil is about, uh, "Dr. Evil learns that a duplicate of Dr. Evil has been created. Upon learning this, how seriously should he take the hypothesis that he himself is that duplicate?" < 1384311558 133535 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a dream where I discovered a security flaw in a real software system and it turned out to be real < 1384311569 923090 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I notice that some of the "illogical" things in my dreaming are actually logical if you use the wrong kind of logic. < 1384311584 2765 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: nice < 1384311587 707812 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong kind, huh. < 1384311592 538711 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reasoning in my dreams is consistently nonsense < 1384311594 284819 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate dreaming < 1384311594 466115 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think something similar may have happened to me, but I am unsure. < 1384311601 560913 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with that, i'm going to take a nap < 1384311605 568901 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: At the end, do they fight, or do they make out? < 1384311609 276271 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes the reasoning is sometimes nonsense. < 1384311609 876273 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :enjoy, lexande < 1384311621 578539 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: well, one of them is being tortured. < 1384311625 57687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: one and then the other < 1384311626 732888 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinky < 1384311630 174922 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also man i'm glad i'm not a mathematician because i would not fit in < 1384311642 947694 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However I am distinguishing between logic (which is mathematics) and reasoning (which is informal thinking, and should be logical). < 1384311645 110633 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's fun, Bike. Pinky swear < 1384311662 360957 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just pacing for hours and thinking really hard < 1384311673 167405 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which, as I understand it, is what most people do, just not about math < 1384311689 799466 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i do that about parts of china and caterpillar legs. < 1384311699 227582 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :By "wrong kind of logic", I mean for example linear logic where classical logic would be a better model in real situations, and vice versa, and other similar kind of things too. < 1384311703 863626 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1384311719 778358 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1384311743 504793 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If everyone turned all their nervous energy to some light mathematics, there'd be some neat stuff to show for it :D < 1384311770 743820 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :three billion proofs of the parallel postulate from the other axioms < 1384311787 456371 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That was pretty cool < 1384311791 189917 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely bookmarking < 1384312442 507808 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :An example of something that doesn't follow ordinary logic, but may be logical in other kinds of logic, in my dreams, may be the one where I had the belief that I (as my character in the dream) had never been there but that I (as myself) had been to that place before, and these beliefs could not be combined in my reasoning. (As it turns out, the second belief is also untrue, but I believed it while I was asleep.) < 1384312479 280146 :Oj742!~Oj742@c-71-59-199-75.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1384312516 851775 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Despite being strange (and clearly incorrect), it still appears perfectly logical to me, just using the "wrong kind of logic". < 1384312788 926217 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have dreams like that too? < 1384312840 809960 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you think math "does have to be the same [in all universes]", i'm curious < 1384312862 935792 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mostly dream about being very afraid < 1384312954 955062 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because mathematics is the *real* reality. < 1384312963 525473 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you think that? < 1384312966 940500 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Very afraid? If anything in particular? < 1384312984 272023 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the things i'm afraid of aren't very constant between dreams, no < 1384313011 874370 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what are they for instance? Do you know? Or is just being afraid in general? < 1384313017 582242 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks at Bike
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ACTION looks at constant
< 1384313065 58432 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: one time, it was a virtual reality character, an imperial japanese soldier who had strapped himself with explosives. for example. < 1384313080 235592 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK. < 1384313091 61863 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :another time it was the concept of dreaming. another time it was a big thing that looked like a displacer beast made of half-cooked meat < 1384313100 755679 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1384313146 273116 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I am dreaming of being afraid of something (which isn't common), it is almost always other people trying to push me or rescue me or something, it seems. < 1384313207 439479 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Sounds low calorie < 1384313214 653058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: also, http://qntm.org/responsibility :) < 1384313270 563497 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: https://sites.google.com/site/asenselessconversation/ < 1384313272 492567 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like this one < 1384313331 136636 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Also, did you hear about Google/NASA's quantum computer? < 1384313368 968653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um did they buy one of those d-wave things that are _possibly_ sort of qc but not the "real" thing < 1384313420 469328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aaronson at shtetl-optimized likes to criticize them) < 1384313467 356486 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a D-wave, yes < 1384313504 987385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc from his last post about it, they cannot do "real" quantum algorithms and the evidence that what they can do is hard with classical computers is increasingly weak < 1384313514 632120 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww < 1384314911 355449 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: should I comment on my Rust thoughts elsewhere? < 1384314928 487062 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps you could use the rust channel < 1384314968 188923 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could bring it up in the Rust channe; < 1384314968 345333 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :channel < 1384315091 545972 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel awkward being on the Mozilla IRC network while being a Chrome user < 1384315109 924987 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in your user-agent, they can deal! < 1384315144 724320 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disable VERSION then. < 1384315514 307703 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: fwiw, a thing I do think I like about Rust is its do syntax. As readable as Ruby, without an actual physical distinction, just syntactic sugar < 1384317462 204644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1384317479 537168 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'for' used to be similarly superficial sugar < 1384317494 741558 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:7930:b46:a3d8:a352 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1384317495 246792 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a call with a lambda < 1384317496 818989 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it didn't work out so well, so now it's sugar for calling .next() repeatedly < 1384317520 952657 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not such a big deal to consumers, but implementing an object with a .next() method is a lot more work than implementing a function that takes a function < 1384317523 908208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1384317538 207517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the reasons for switching were composability and performance, I think) < 1384317546 518484 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I often don't like to knock out opponent's active pokemon cards. < 1384317553 100647 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ lambdas can do something Rust lambdas can't which is inline into the function they're passed to < 1384317568 258928 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's weird < 1384317600 578840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in C++ you can do void f(std::function g) but you can *also* do template void f(G g) and the latter will enable such optimizations < 1384317627 102745 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with Rust if you want the latter you need to define and implement a trait < 1384317666 401950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I dunno, if you have specific questions or suggestions you could take them to #rust on irc.mozilla.org < 1384317755 415971 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Already did, someone commented on my mentioning the restriction, but not my comment about how it affects macros < 1384317762 305200 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1384317772 394680 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could press on that point? < 1384317775 646349 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was an interesting point < 1384317794 303748 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how to do that without being rude < 1384317844 661209 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:7930:b46:a3d8:a352 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384318007 362183 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i give this article an eight of ten. most enlightening. http://krazydad.com/tutorials/makecolors.php < 1384318051 704045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: reading your senseless conversation link now, i think i guessed pretty quickly where this is going... < 1384318062 853604 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah, so did I < 1384318070 175052 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was the only disappointing thing about it < 1384318409 366204 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are you in the chat? < 1384318430 995260 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not paying attention atm < 1384318667 291056 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/img_16/pokemon_card_never_switch.png As it turns out both of us had the same active pokemon card during the entire duel, never shifting or getting knocked out. (I knocked out their bench pokemon cards though; the AI is really bad.) < 1384319040 52112 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i am amused by the idea of hofstadter administrating the test tho :D < 1384319279 659570 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the symbols look like a mess, how can you read that? < 1384319330 668371 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1384319335 3517 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I can read it, I can tell you its meaning: Side card, Active pokemon card, Number of cards remaining in draw pile. < 1384319358 759173 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could read up to side card < 1384319379 254609 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but kanji are a mess < 1384319398 523247 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, now you know the rest too. Yes the kanji is in a small resolution that is hard to read, but I know what they mean in this context anyways. < 1384319450 278861 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you say the active < 1384319495 539263 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1384319518 443706 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that is what it means in this context. < 1384319528 158682 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1384319629 42488 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you play Pokemon card? It would be more understandable to someone who does. < 1384319717 353081 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't < 1384319742 699818 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i play some japanese < 1384319781 802615 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What games can you play in Japanese? Shogi? Mahjong? < 1384319815 618835 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean i play the language itself < 1384319822 842838 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the sense of pretending to learn it < 1384319841 943518 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i've played some mahjong obviously < 1384319849 407996 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretending to learn it? < 1384319865 381254 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it Japanese mahjong? Do you know Washizu mahjong? < 1384319921 340414 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just know the mahjong computer game, it's a kind of solitaire < 1384319930 740577 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to remove pairs until the heap runs out < 1384319935 476793 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you win < 1384319959 120945 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, mahjong solitaire, I know that one, but that isn't the real mahjong game, it is just the mahjong solitaire, using the same tiles < 1384319991 331043 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sort of figured < 1384319993 785112 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The true mahjong game is 4 players game. < 1384319995 458827 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the actual mahjong like < 1384319997 410558 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh < 1384320003 298985 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've read its rules < 1384320006 11118 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1384320012 915501 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's like four winds and stuff < 1384320016 410694 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1384320036 698592 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and like a great wall made from the pieces maybe_ < 1384320037 811372 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1384320055 910469 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, usually there is. (Sometimes a bag is used instead.) < 1384320069 552842 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is many different variants, such as Chinese game, Japanese game, etc. < 1384320104 121012 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno which one was in the big book of random games i read once < 1384320145 18656 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-machine okey doke < 1384320657 785969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: i am amused by the idea of hofstadter administrating the test tho :D <-- oh, i didn't notice the first name coincidence. < 1384320698 205060 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coincidence? i'd guess intentional. it's not like Zongker is much of a computational philosopher < 1384321571 209680 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey oklopol < 1384321575 544903 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hii < 1384321581 716736 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely you know the answer to my question < 1384321605 671462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hide the finnish grammars! < 1384321609 826399 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can we probe a formal language for word-word interactions without knowing the grammar or the class of grammars involved? < 1384321668 755358 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's easy but you don't know enough flexo-flamigold theory to understand it so no can do < 1384321696 90293 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probe like, how? temperature? < 1384321712 772159 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes, temperature < 1384322049 623173 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it's more-or-less like canasta, if you've played that < 1384322052 549917 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's similar anyway < 1384322060 622540 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :mahjongg, I mean < 1384322438 397279 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know canasta < 1384322460 149617 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but kanasta means "from a chicken" in finnish < 1384322707 112132 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT : < 1384323427 493768 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is somewhat like canasta and other rummy games. < 1384323447 921885 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although there are actually many significant differences. < 1384323644 632583 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made up a new esolang http://esolangs.org/wiki/B-tapemark < 1384324083 400803 :Oj742!~Oj742@c-71-59-199-75.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1384324655 590225 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:7930:b46:a3d8:a352 QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1384326197 337125 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dbztmcgwxjkenhfb JOIN :#esoteric < 1384327245 704398 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:456f:2a2f:9c7b:a401 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384327494 77358 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:456f:2a2f:9c7b:a401 QUIT :Client Quit < 1384327524 801676 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:456f:2a2f:9c7b:a401 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384328003 904233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: so imo the "finite observations" business is a sensible way to understnd continuity < 1384328136 377892 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1384328433 699147 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Bike imo wow rude < 1384328434 15889 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1384328549 122934 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:456f:2a2f:9c7b:a401 QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1384329288 273696 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: in re http://lesswrong.com/lw/qk/ , https://twitter.com/HardSciFiMovies/status/396699827414646784 < 1384329298 154744 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though i realise that's kind of missing the point) < 1384329378 430641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a plot point in the movie also < 1384329420 90268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: that's based on the Matrix movies though (duh), not yudkowsky < 1384329434 492736 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. still. < 1384329452 289366 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i read more lesswrong sci fi < 1384329455 127611 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems p. interesting < 1384329476 967453 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only yudkowsky sci fi i know about is this and the one with the babyeaters and superhappies and hpmor < 1384329612 883026 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you have a sexual fetish for people who have a fetish for recursion, and they have a fetish for people with a fetish for recursion, the two of you have a fetish for each other via Lob's Theorem." < 1384329673 105053 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\rainbow{yudkowsky} < 1384329694 465619 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i haven't seen any other fiction on lesswrong than those yudkowksy things but i haven't looked < 1384329810 721759 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1384329874 929739 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: where should i eat pizza if i visit .no < 1384329925 534854 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latest HardSciFiMovies happens in a world close to you < 1384329953 807485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i see you think i have taste < 1384329968 878993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternative answer: you can't afford norwegian food anyhow. < 1384330013 480155 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear good norwegian pizza costs $30 or something? < 1384330028 615520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLAYSIBLE < 1384330120 48921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can tell you the two biggest pizza chains i know of, but i cannot remember if they're considered _good_: peppe'?s pizza and dolly dimple's < 1384330158 412441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually dolly's has a bit unusual cheese mix) < 1384330180 657677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also norwegians have lousy taste in food in general. < 1384330189 457587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mine is worse. < 1384330230 936893 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which i mean, i'm not very discerning. < 1384330232 367337 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: I support research into further applications of modal logic in this domain < 1384330323 624189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and i should mention Egon for old times sake, and because i recall at least one person praising their pizza. < 1384330412 401638 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is one of them on the other side of the street from the royal palace < 1384330443 829128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i have no idea what's there, i don't live in Oslo. < 1384330490 469203 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear everything in scandinavia costs at least $30 < 1384330494 116034 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll have to send lexande on a pizza mission for me < 1384330565 894859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the other side of the street from the royal palace" doesn't really make sense, the palace is in the middle of a park. < 1384330631 874441 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah i suspect you will just have to go hungry the whole time you are in norway < 1384330643 321384 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1384330648 5797 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i guess you have a real job, so maybe not < 1384330658 262196 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because expensive < 1384330689 725395 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably be in .eu early next year for work. But maybe not .no. < 1384330861 28761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: took a stroll on streetview down from the castle, hit Egon: https://maps.google.no/maps?q=slottsplassen,+Oslo&hl=no&ll=59.914042,10.738304&spn=0.000003,0.00206&sll=63.409649,10.364351&sspn=0.359599,1.054687&t=h&hq=slottsplassen,&hnear=Oslo&z=19&layer=c&cbll=59.914042,10.737794&panoid=TZqdkmjMXg09K1O52clPeA&cbp=12,26.73,,0,-7.72 < 1384330998 50050 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what about Peppes Pizza - Stortingsgaten < 1384331208 707334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i looked down Karl Johans gate which is the main street < 1384331223 226421 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pizza in Oslo? Sounds expensive < 1384331238 299466 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's a peppes in both streets anyhow < 1384331368 357073 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there you go https://maps.google.no/maps?q=Peppes+Pizza+-+Stortingsgaten,+Stortingsgata,+Oslo&hl=no&ll=59.912869,10.738964&spn=0.000086,0.065918&sll=59.912923,10.741856&sspn=0.000792,0.003082&oq=Pepp&t=h&hq=Peppes+Pizza+-+Stortingsgaten,+Stortingsgata,+Oslo&z=14&layer=c&cbll=59.912987,10.738613&panoid=0JExO66m127U5RdZx3MyPA&cbp=12,205.42,,1,17.44 < 1384331468 871662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one in Karl Johans gate is much further down < 1384331549 874526 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there loads of peppes pizza places in oslo? if not I might've eaten at that one < 1384331559 970208 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: was it good < 1384331580 564595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yes < 1384331591 65230 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not really... I guess it was ok? < 1384331719 526155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway just give up all your money and eat at maaemoe hth < 1384331720 705812 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384331742 859829 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait that was one e too much < 1384331749 589349 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*maaemo < 1384331758 580413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i doubt they have pizza) < 1384331871 118704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(do i need to mention i've never eaten there?) < 1384332471 194780 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you know how JavaScript supports bitwise "32-bit integer operations" on its sole numeric type of 64-bit floats? < 1384332485 248674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I learned today that this is actually essential to Emscripten performance < 1384332503 575520 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it outputs code like «var x = f()|0; var y = g()|0; return (x+y)|0;» < 1384332515 697237 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the asm.js thing too, right? < 1384332516 999141 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which acts as a hint to the JIT that it should compile this as 32-bit integer code < 1384332528 235157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, the big win of asm.js is that you can do this interprocedurally too < 1384333971 665041 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1384334261 815097 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384334651 850967 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1384334735 859942 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1384335529 292029 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1384336653 516361 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hemsjljevntpijep QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1384337426 935960 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384338131 907769 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1384340207 242117 :Taneb!9020b3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.179.180 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384340226 284664 :Taneb!9020b3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.179.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In two years this channel has turned me from loving python to hating it < 1384340254 929210 :Taneb!9020b3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.179.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now I am forced to use it < 1384340372 333472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1384340418 296847 :Taneb!9020b3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.179.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it two years? Or was it three? Or even more? < 1384340435 398197 :Taneb!9020b3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.179.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I'm wondering how my younger self tolerated it < 1384340464 319246 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you hate it because...? < 1384340472 666420 :Taneb!9020b3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.179.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: it's scary and aaaah < 1384340489 568939 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's got numbers, classes and stuff < 1384340493 113292 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you want more? < 1384340501 86631 :Taneb!9020b3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.179.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want less! < 1384340503 219815 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a type system" < 1384340504 251850 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :except static type checking < 1384340515 295046 :Taneb!9020b3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.179.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, and static type checking < 1384340517 395597 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fucking started to hate every language with no perfect type checking < 1384340518 83333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this car has everything except seatbelts or airbags, what's the problem < 1384340520 97811 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like C < 1384340526 458125 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially gtk callback < 1384340532 758014 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spent 3 hours debugging memory corruption bug < 1384340545 218384 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :until I noticed I passed something else to a gtk callback as userdata as I thought < 1384340549 353685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :python is way too boring for me to have love or hate emotions about it < 1384340553 266018 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I passed a data struct and not a widget < 1384340561 714192 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and gtk kept corrupting my structs :) < 1384340569 209923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: you can do that bug in haskell too < 1384340574 923903 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Really? < 1384340580 244161 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I guess I fucking hate haskell too < 1384340591 417138 :Taneb!9020b3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.179.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you just hate GTK < 1384340597 858670 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Shouln't there be type safe callbacks? < 1384340605 57874 :Taneb!9020b3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.179.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually quite like C < 1384340610 703720 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i ride in cars without seatbelts and airbags, don't you? < 1384340630 214013 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very often < 1384340636 220431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't ride in cars very often at all < 1384340639 292833 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this week yes < 1384340649 966184 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think most of the cars i ride in probably lack seatbelts and airbags < 1384340654 755556 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :being third world taxis < 1384340663 350905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fromDyn (toDyn (123 :: Int)) :: Double < 1384340671 700732 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `GHC.Types.Double' < 1384340671 856988 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual ty... < 1384340676 456136 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just keep in mind that every airbag has an electric-fuse < 1384340680 394247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fromDyn (toDyn (123 :: Int)) :: Maybe Double < 1384340682 82145 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `Data.Maybe.Maybe GHC.Types.Double' < 1384340682 238536 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : ... < 1384340685 276421 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess most of the cars i hitchhiked in had seatbelts and airbags, which probably shifted the ratio back that way < 1384340687 606141 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you don't know if it still works until you try it out . < 1384340694 462580 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :toyota recalled 870,000 cars because of spiders living in the airbags < 1384340716 485542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have been riding in taxis this week because a 4km taxi ride in korea is like $5 < 1384340717 372111 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether hitchhiking is safer than a third world taxi seems unclear < 1384340730 727442 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the seoul metro is so shiny < 1384340736 496047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but we're not in seoul < 1384340739 558256 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're out in suwon < 1384340760 816211 :Taneb!9020b3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.179.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been getting buses mainly recently < 1384340765 118614 :Taneb!9020b3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.179.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Occasionally trains < 1384340776 236991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t toDyn < 1384340777 608322 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Typeable a => a -> Dynamic < 1384340779 282856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fromDyn < 1384340780 581635 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Typeable a => Dynamic -> a -> a < 1384340786 602510 :Taneb!9020b3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.179.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fromDynamic < 1384340786 758685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fromDynamic (toDyn (123 :: Int)) :: Maybe Double < 1384340787 975153 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Typeable a => Dynamic -> Maybe a < 1384340788 427934 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : Nothing < 1384340789 425816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll go to seoul on friday afternoon and also saturday afternoon through monday sometime < 1384340799 780266 :Taneb!9020b3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.179.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buses are really scary when you think about it < 1384340843 808514 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but how so < 1384340857 14031 :Taneb!9020b3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.179.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because there are loads of people and no seatbelts < 1384340868 798253 :Taneb!9020b3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.179.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And busy roads and you're an easy target < 1384340880 62696 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the theory is that seatbelts become less important the further you are from the front < 1384340887 100227 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause you won't go through the windshield < 1384340926 150009 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i spent a lot of time on school buses and thought about this a lot and they basically told me it's fine cause you'll just hit the back of the seat in front of you < 1384340943 177864 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo fine < 1384340965 533711 :Taneb!9020b3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.179.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also often you have to stand < 1384340986 115035 :Taneb!9020b3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.179.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if the bus stops suddenly you fall over < 1384341038 560764 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaiu they've made seat belts mandatory in school buses in norway now. < 1384341066 954550 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, the cool kids don't use them < 1384341094 741347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no the cool kids are too cool for school < 1384341117 462158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely think the driver may be legally mandated to check that they do. < 1384341133 3029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :driver carries less than $20 < 1384341137 492150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's certainly the case for children in private cars) < 1384341269 587036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it says on this page that it's still legal to stand < 1384341394 487202 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it were illegal to stand in busses < 1384341406 181951 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they have to use much more busses :) < 1384341409 929911 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least around here < 1384341423 252822 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the probably need double the busses they have now at rush hours < 1384341424 29906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well this doesn't apply to adults anyway. < 1384341425 757586 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*they < 1384341433 210027 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1384341434 402007 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1384341443 304510 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :And only for school buses? < 1384341446 38421 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :not generally? < 1384341451 169437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1384341452 486173 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. ok < 1384341462 237187 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1384341476 762870 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is, that the driver can't really ensure that everyone uses the seatbelt < 1384341480 762890 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for adult buses < 1384341498 844621 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm not driving until everyone uses his seatbelt!" < 1384341519 519440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a way to become popular < 1384341528 444379 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the drivers get assaulted by passengers often enough as it is < 1384341541 162300 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in both NYC and SF there are signs on every bus/train reminding you that it's illegal to beat up the driver < 1384341551 806029 :Taneb!9020b3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.179.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1384341577 551420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was this bus mini-massacre in norway recently < 1384341634 971727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mini because there were only about 3 people in the bus, but they were all killed < 1384341654 547626 :Taneb!9020b3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.179.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1384341690 176533 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like it's not a dream job to be busdriver in the US < 1384341702 761400 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so, no < 1384341710 25287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not anywhere, really < 1384341710 181576 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how poor < 1384341733 280232 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that these days "dream job" means like "a job, where you get health care" < 1384341745 441489 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bus drivers are often unionized and make decent money and benefits and get a pension etc < 1384341746 991169 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1384341752 62841 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your country is messed up ;) < 1384341752 393050 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that puts them ahead of most employed people even < 1384341754 436295 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1384341795 376202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latest on that is, the website they set up for the new healthcare law is buggy and this proves that universal health care is a bad idea < 1384341796 825320 :Taneb!9020b3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.179.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got annoyed at a bus driver recently because he insisted that the bus didn't go anywhere near Heslington East when it terminated at the Heslington East Interchange (which is at Heslington East) < 1384341812 601279 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: How is that a prove? < 1384341816 727121 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*proof < 1384341829 879811 :Taneb!9020b3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.179.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Heslington East is where my uni's CS department is) < 1384341836 220005 :Taneb!9020b3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.179.180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW) < 1384341863 848941 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1384341944 433451 :Taneb!9020b3b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.179.180 QUIT :Quit: I'm going now < 1384341946 886562 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: it isn't, clearly, but the people fighting reform don't really care about facts or logic < 1384341969 546090 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sad fact is, there's a small number of very rich americans who honestly would rather let thousands of people die every year than pay slightly higher taxes < 1384341976 838700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they have enough money to fool enough people to get their way < 1384342028 610149 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should think about establishing a real democracy ;) < 1384342039 692433 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this website thing... wow the government spent a bunch of money on something that doesn't work well? STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES < 1384342049 717573 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :happens every day but it's usually something republicans like, such as military spending < 1384342065 944181 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are republicans anti-military? < 1384342068 737685 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or pro-military? < 1384342075 268467 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pro < 1384342077 617624 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1384342081 200302 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean both parties are very much pro-military < 1384342090 534205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :republicans tend to be slightly more in favor of actually fighting wars < 1384342096 984864 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they both love spending money on jet planes and whatever < 1384342105 123599 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the republicans are the ones with more money? < 1384342114 289736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1384342140 866405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes they're the party of rich people who don't want to pay taxes < 1384342143 722961 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ironic < 1384342149 793679 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were founded to stop slavery < 1384342169 900080 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rich people who don't want to pay taxes, who convince a lot of ignorant poor people to go along by leveraging various forms of bigotry < 1384342431 509456 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1384342485 639889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION -> afk
< 1384342487 601800 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know anything about the US tax system < 1384342495 394421 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than it's apparentely really messy and complicated < 1384342504 860797 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1384342532 260940 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1384342541 328465 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1384342728 308732 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For adult buses" sounds a bit dirty. < 1384342817 597347 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I just built a thing with ICC instead of GCC (also with Intel's BLAS instead of generic ATLAS, which is probably more relevant), and its runtime (for a test case) dropped from three and a half minutes to one minute, which was quite the speedup. < 1384343045 54120 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: They usually are a bit dirty. < 1384343115 489139 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could even be a serial bus! < 1384343312 907124 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :adult serial buses < 1384343892 141136 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384344520 106126 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1384345221 101032 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1384345452 866323 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: nice < 1384345513 142628 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384345585 257296 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384346022 478656 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1384347050 331707 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the metro totally goes to suwon but i guess there are only a couple stations there < 1384347158 476231 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :one note about the safety of city busses with lots of people standing is that such busses tend to be slow as balls < 1384347197 244756 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1384347213 533818 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :people may fall over in a sudden stop but nothing too traumatic < 1384347343 929283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: yeah i think we will take the metro to seoul and back < 1384347354 999926 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though we took a cab here from ICN < 1384347356 903179 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are exceptions; riding the M60 across the triboro bridge is a little disconcerting in this respect. but generally in the developed world busses that spend a significant amount of time at high speeds (primarily commuter express and intercity coaches) aren't allowed standees. < 1384347357 422664 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i wasn't paying < 1384347407 783965 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a cab from ICN to anywhere sounds cringeworthy; i guess it's the land of cheap cabs but does that really mean they refrain from milking airport passengers? < 1384347472 199782 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what, i tried to do google maps directions in korea and transit is the only option < 1384347498 164188 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was about $80 < 1384347506 649300 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeesh < 1384347648 718902 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1384347722 595577 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: yeah what's with that? re gmaps < 1384347807 805458 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know. it took them a long time to get road data in south korea at all. i think they may have actually had it in north korea first (because mapmaker was allowed in north korea) < 1384347813 709980 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1384347817 402390 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$80 doesn't seem so bad to go 60km < 1384347876 225558 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually more than 60km because I'm pretty sure we took the north bridge < 1384347879 930836 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we went past GMP on the way < 1384347978 691813 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've had a 50km taxi ride for like $18 in china, and an 80km ride for like $3 in Botswana (though i may have actually been hitchhiking then, what is a taxi really) < 1384347989 130959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1384348000 587110 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :albania: where every car is a taxi and also a 90s mercedes < 1384348018 775066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i took a cab from JFK to Exchange Place once, by myself < 1384348024 27232 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT was a ridiculous thing to do < 1384348056 407104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but again, not my money, plus I had very little idea how to get around the area at the time < 1384348061 178937 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was like $120 < 1384348076 221919 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah we paid €26 or whatever for that 50km taxi ride from Shkoder to Bar < 1384348098 352831 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a mixture of EUR and ALL yes < 1384348375 321367 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we paid like $150 for a 250km taxi ride from El Calafate to Rio Turbio < 1384348669 70112 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i paid something under $35 for a 450km taxi ride from Nuweiba to Cairo < 1384348993 623018 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though he dropped me out in Heliopolis or some shit and i had to pay almost $10 more for a taxi into the city centre < 1384349036 359073 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric-taxis < 1384349135 208429 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a rush-hour based esolang, I wonder ... < 1384349269 802565 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/390188941749395456 < 1384349751 324320 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we once took a taxi from Mikkeli to Helsinki back when I was a small child, and the family car broke down, and it was late, and there was some reason or another that we absolutely had to get back the same day. < 1384349774 727134 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's about 230 km.) < 1384349861 869154 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :today's finding: most programs do not work well if you set all of the registers to 0 after every instruction < 1384349866 28317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i have one that does! < 1384350011 911586 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION writes sizeof(uint64_t) and feels silly
< 1384350039 984292 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :7.1111! < 1384350401 843734 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should < 1384350644 266557 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.175.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384351429 816305 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384352578 635162 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1384352585 735594 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384353175 922929 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1384353459 523980 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1384355309 982799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if x86 is turing complete with only instructions «mov dword [dest], imm» and «jmp [src]» but allowing self-modifying of those operands < 1384355335 620885 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you flush icaches with those < 1384355355 78068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to flush the icache to do self-modifying code on x86 < 1384355367 130747 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iianm, that would mean some form of memory mapping, no? < 1384355396 390763 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno why people complain so much about x86, the assembly language is so nice and high level < 1384355399 625929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION only mostly trolling
< 1384355411 794516 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what do you mean < 1384355414 834420 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how much x86 legacy involves local self-modifying code < 1384355418 84908 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably a lot < 1384355462 969057 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: now that I think about what I thought, I don't think I was thinking what I meant to. < 1384355549 992053 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you think something other than the thing you thought to think? < 1384355617 645614 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys, it is way too early here for this < 1384355628 881877 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh there's a bit of self-modifying code here and there; e.g. the first bresenham implementation I encountered had a point where an inc was patched to a dec if the lines sloped upwards, things like that. < 1384355638 244905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rock on < 1384355771 546682 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin | paste < 1384355780 618752 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.6704 < 1384355785 386169 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, x86 is the (?) architecture that decodes every single byte offset in parallel because it can't know in advance where instructions start < 1384355833 565847 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be an implementation detail < 1384355859 662488 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also, I haven't heard about that < 1384355869 98529 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and would like to know more < 1384355888 569066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste bin/welcome < 1384355890 592661 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/bin/welcome < 1384355896 305843 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime mrhmouse < 1384355914 690927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste wisdom/welcome < 1384355916 584988 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/wisdom/welcome < 1384355920 355624 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom | paste < 1384355925 986846 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.22595 < 1384355951 380970 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo wisdom/* | paste < 1384355956 789323 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.13718 < 1384355973 563343 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what have you done to that poor lambdabot? < 1384355983 937267 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wercome < 1384355985 925340 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​エソテリックプログラミング言語のディザインとデプロイメントの国際な場所へようこそ！詳しく、ウィキを見て：　http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page。（他のエソテリック、irc.dal.netの#esotericへ） < 1384355990 182347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1384356064 393799 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: not lambdabot's fault that mrhmouse doesn't answer CTCP time requests < 1384356079 864174 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I answered, just not in any valid format < 1384356090 474021 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh. < 1384356091 625610 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know that's what I meant ;) < 1384356113 510176 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what format does lambdabot expect? < 1384356140 240586 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, is it okay if I bring my own bot into the channel / is there a rule list I can read someplace? < 1384356161 773235 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! another bot! ☺ < 1384356176 152813 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Don't get excited, it's not an interesting one :) < 1384356207 354578 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a problem. as long as it answers to ping, echo, botsnacks and does something unique, everything's fine. < 1384356242 790054 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only have two: a chatterbot along the lines of fungot and one that does nothing by default but can load functionality from code on the web < 1384356242 978075 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: that is the only moving thing was the eye of the black bird. < 1384356246 206344 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems that I misread; agner fog only suspects that intel chips try decoding in parallel. < 1384356289 136771 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm assuming ping is an actual ping, but what should it answer when prompted with echo or botsnacks? < 1384356299 735609 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ping < 1384356299 918147 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pong! < 1384356313 987789 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo echo. < 1384356314 165808 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo. < 1384356314 824969 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so some of our bots don't respond to ping already. < 1384356355 469325 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ... CTCP, it expects a NOTICE (not PRIVMSG), starting with \001 (ASCII 1), followed by "TIME ", followed by another \001 < 1384356358 647963 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and uhm... I... didn't implement the Botsnack Munching Behaviour Module for Bots on Metasepia yet. < 1384356374 894363 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maximal munch < 1384356376 868304 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that it really cares about the format of the part. < 1384356381 561303 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not a ping, is it? That's a privmsg containing the text "ping". < 1384356393 30443 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~botsnacks < 1384356393 186735 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1384356400 516511 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting! < 1384356408 114705 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :botsnack < 1384356414 81125 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1384356422 73616 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: botsnack < 1384356422 380749 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i've seen cases where chatzilla seems to send messages without getting autoreplies. doctors seem to always be of the egyptian god isis or what was it < 1384356432 43885 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack < 1384356432 200457 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1384356438 141532 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :^botsnack < 1384356439 328838 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think fungot only answers to its name < 1384356439 709291 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: where is a lot of freedom with that big list of them in .bashrc will prevent it from being " a property which a closed topological space exhibits". < 1384356466 559211 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: that, and some obscure non-proto-indo-european spells. < 1384356481 209390 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`botsnack < 1384356482 665359 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-D < 1384356500 639955 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make my shell rc topologically closed. < 1384356511 39096 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not used to having to address botsnacks to a particular bot < 1384356568 73908 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printf 'Hi! This is a chat about unusual programming tools. For additional info, visit our wiki: . (For unusual things of a contrasting sort, try http://bit.ly/19k9nf8.)' > wisdom/wlcom < 1384356571 684889 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1384356712 182857 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's either that or set up a CNAME for irc.dal.net < 1384356750 367901 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome < 1384356752 478528 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1384356954 712261 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1384356985 206493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugs lexande
< 1384356990 872742 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Client Quit < 1384357008 530352 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :conehead is lexande? < 1384357015 144922 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no... < 1384357035 208354 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1384357038 461809 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coincidence then < 1384357038 618725 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: got any cool .bashrc tricks? < 1384357038 914088 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: btw, i'd like to start with that +2 function you mentioned earlier? think it's worth having, but once i picked up the memory to be turing complete < 1384357049 217155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1384357066 571267 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you a self-aware makefile < 1384357066 877582 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: they could be scattered throughout the signals, conditions, arithmetic, enums, records, etc. but i can't argue with the library access actually, you end up thinking in c. < 1384357068 688345 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1384357087 810752 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1384357087 967712 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: that shit rots your brain < 1384357088 124482 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i can't remember the details now, heh. < 1384357095 157604 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i rest my case. < 1384357095 313828 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: one would imagine so, yes. but defining a variable ' define' < 1384357124 730307 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome conehead < 1384357124 994729 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: "I would be surprised if anyone went to all of the effort that this researcher suggests." < 1384357125 151632 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: in a way similar to how monads can be done < 1384357127 144625 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :conehead: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1384357142 640116 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead PRIVMSG #esoteric :I miss my rainbow mixed-case welcome ): < 1384357153 762151 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOme | rainwords < 1384357155 837010 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: WeLcOme: command not found < 1384357159 951405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ? WeLcOme | rainwords < 1384357162 43238 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07Welcome 08to 09the 02international 06hub 13for 04esoteric 07programming 08language 09design 02and 06deployment! 13For 04more 07information, 08check 09out 02our 06wiki: 13. 04(For 07the 08other 09kind 02of 06esoterica, 13try 04#esoteric 07on 08irc.dal.net.) < 1384357167 270968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks < 1384357181 495922 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE conehead | rainwords < 1384357184 481539 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04CoNeHeAd: 07WeLcOmE 08To 09tHe 02iNtErNaTiOnAl 06hUb 13fOr 04eSoTeRiC 07PrOgRaMmInG 08LaNgUaGe 09dEsIgN 02AnD 06DePlOyMeNt! 13FoR 04MoRe 07iNfOrMaTiOn, 08ChEcK 09OuT 02OuR 06WiKi: 13. 04(fOr 07tHe 08oThEr 09kInD 02Of 06eSoTeRiCa, 13TrY 04#eSoTeRiC 07On 08iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1384357188 633460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1384357190 161838 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks <3 < 1384357210 621692 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl -e "print '~' x 50" | rainbow < 1384357212 658479 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​0509~12~05~~14~09~06~12~~10~05~~06~11~08~06~14~09~11~10~03~~13~11~09~~06~12~~07~~~13~03~09~02~~13~~~~~11~06~03~~11~~04~02~04 < 1384357218 157502 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Onion? The body of a spy is found in a padlocked sports bag in his apartment. The investigating police: he probably died by accident on his own. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24927078 < 1384357243 350706 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's some kinky shit < 1384357267 104931 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that case is old and sort of famous; the coroner? tried to zip himself up in a bag and decided it couldn't be done. < 1384357288 456092 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but indeed it's a clear-cut case of suicide. nobody expected anything else. < 1384357322 674833 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what stops people from sending harmful commands to HackEgo? < 1384357332 86209 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: define 'harmful' < 1384357337 893995 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :uml < 1384357346 400185 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :box < 1384357359 281224 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wonder what theory they came up with ... maybe a self-destructing lego mindstorm robot that locked the bag. < 1384357361 729270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: every command runs in a separate User Mode Linux system and the filesystem changes are merged with Mercurial (so can be reverted) < 1384357373 663544 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION throw a mint-condition, shrink-wrapped UML manual with garish covers and bad business analogies over at quintopia
< 1384357396 625059 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a business is like a burrito < 1384357411 610109 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :r[ead]m[ail] -r[eally]f[ast] /[search pattern matching anything] < 1384357411 779454 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: not that kind of uml :P < 1384357421 85940 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that harmful enough? < 1384357441 794878 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl -e "print '~' x 100" | rainbow < 1384357443 851872 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​14~~04~~~~~10~02~~~~~05~~~02~10~11~13~13~09~~~~~~12~~09~06~05~~~~~~~10~~02~11~04~08~~10~03~11~~06~06~~~~~~06~~~06~04~~~~07~~~~~~06~~~09~03~~02~12~~~~~~~~~~~05~12~04~~09~06~~04~08~~~10~ < 1384357444 791645 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Remember --no-preserve-root on GNU systems. < 1384357474 934971 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c "print('eh?')" < 1384357476 661545 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1384357489 470108 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c "while True: pass" < 1384357496 562383 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: nice catch. < 1384357518 156866 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :/. would probably work. < 1384357520 700249 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1384357522 156641 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :on any system < 1384357536 387330 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. it eventually dies... < 1384357538 224989 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c "while True: pass" < 1384357540 228608 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c "while True: pass" < 1384357542 217696 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c "while True: pass" < 1384357544 217477 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c "while True: pass" < 1384357546 218712 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c "while True: pass" < 1384357569 263410 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1384357571 256842 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1384357574 27991 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1384357575 876814 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1384357578 306700 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1384357587 147635 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am disappoint. < 1384357587 349525 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if False: yield < 1384357598 357411 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm -rf /boot < 1384357610 929736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fine < 1384357620 966851 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just get a new kernel from wherever < 1384357624 225787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're all pretty much the same < 1384357627 987576 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackBot doesn't permission to delete that, I assume? < 1384357641 866637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the 'kernel' from UML comes from The Outside < 1384357645 310205 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*have permission, my apologies < 1384357654 911589 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bash -c ': ( ) { : | : ; } ; :' < 1384357669 867594 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice one, int-e < 1384357685 831287 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: fork: retry: Resource temporarily unavailable \ bash: fork: retry: Resource temporarily unavailable \ bash: fork: retry: Resource temporarily unavailable \ bash: fork: retry: Resource temporarily unavailable \ bash: fork: retry: Resource temporarily unavailable \ bash: fork: retry: Resource temporarily unavailable \ bash: fork: retry: Resourc < 1384357687 174884 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it should still die with the virtual machine :) < 1384357720 58085 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the VM reboot itself automatically? < 1384357729 383797 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run uname -a < 1384357730 911427 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux umlbox 3.7.0-umlbox #1 Wed Feb 13 23:30:40 UTC 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux < 1384357735 240739 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: every command runs in a fresh VM instance < 1384357758 626883 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat /proc/cpuinfo < 1384357760 147192 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :processor : 0 \ vendor_id : User Mode Linux \ model name : UML \ mode : skas \ host : Linux codu.org 2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Mar 8 00:01:30 UTC 2011 x86_64 \ bogomips : 632.01 < 1384357760 303498 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is trapped in an endless cycle of reincarnation < 1384357794 230918 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very nice indeed! I'll have to sandbox up my command bot like that before adding it to any public channel. Right now it just answers to me, anyways. < 1384357795 954474 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to checkout a past life < 1384357812 843202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'const int main[] = { 14776, 3942977280, 247 };' > fb.c && gcc -o fb fb.c && ./fb < 1384357835 519615 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: does it check that you're identified with services :3 < 1384357847 306349 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Nope! Just the name. < 1384357850 986302 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good to know < 1384357866 434948 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's not identified with services < 1384357875 938256 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1384357877 428166 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not on freenode, anyways :) Maybe I'll just add my chatterbot for now. < 1384357989 704228 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1384358033 501199 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1384358037 318241 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1384358051 875332 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, here's the chatterbot now. < 1384358140 137479 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: what do you do? < 1384358140 534210 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it goes for most people that they're not inherently 'bad' < 1384358164 112514 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: can you say "fungot"? < 1384358164 301297 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oh well, really night now. i run drscheme on my 256mb box, but it < 1384358164 515301 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 gram of TNT equivalent is equal (defined, even, I think) to 1 kcal < 1384358190 934337 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy is a bit different from fungot, and there isn't much chance you can get it to invoke fungot < 1384358191 208380 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: sponsored by british taxpayers, of course) < 1384358191 497810 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SuperTipsyCam approves < 1384358195 111126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1384358219 280607 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: sing me a song < 1384358219 490997 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it real < 1384358223 834450 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: are you real < 1384358223 992756 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could look for failing video rental places. < 1384358228 767513 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot how hard to kill that : | : thing is ... now one reboot later :) < 1384358235 890163 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: Blockbuster shut their last stores just recently < 1384358236 46625 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They cater to other tastes. < 1384358244 346979 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: indeed (bankruptcy mostly) < 1384358244 559956 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: row, row, row your boat < 1384358244 716863 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iRowBoat < 1384358260 821585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: a motherfucking boat? < 1384358260 978159 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be unfortunate to not have the ability to tell a story like I just did :( < 1384358270 54674 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo `echo ruddy fungot < 1384358270 211139 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: how about this? < 1384358270 368261 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo ruddy fungot < 1384358270 524802 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sponsored by british taxpayers, of course) < 1384358270 681722 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speak! < 1384358271 542073 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy fungot < 1384358271 699003 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about this? < 1384358290 79033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION claps
< 1384358309 588976 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only chance you have is to get fungot to invoke ruddy, really < 1384358309 785756 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: yeah, but i figured i can just do this all with a single < 1384358333 804784 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also ruddy doesn't recognize its name when combined with punctuation :P < 1384358333 961069 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey! < 1384358466 931589 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION falls asleep
< 1384358470 433973 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if you get fungot to invoke it, you'll have to get lucky with a response that includes a name. < 1384358470 604281 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: but produces a function on-the-fly at startup. sorry, this is tedious. http://62.167.150.30/ acm100.c of < 1384358490 121874 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It stores placeholders instead of names when it logs things, and fills them out when responding < 1384359607 603895 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. brainstorm. < 1384359619 57587 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infinte sized rubik's cube < 1384359632 158046 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many dimensions? < 1384359645 631193 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :3D < 1384359649 803197 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a regular rubik's cube < 1384359664 291420 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not 3x3 < 1384359698 726247 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a regular rubik's cube every side has 9 squares < 1384359721 249183 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :now there are's an infinite amount of squares on each side < 1384359789 112254 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1384359791 527628 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are's < 1384359792 710801 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1384359796 999000 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is < 1384359854 17990 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: I don't see where this is going < 1384359933 840464 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION prods mrhmouse with a calibrated 10' pole mad out of the finest maple and with a tapered end wrapped in a hand-knit woolen dampener
< 1384359963 300065 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION vomits profusely
< 1384360046 844502 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry. bad autocompletion. < 1384360053 737962 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swings the pole over at mroman_
< 1384360065 473380 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's odd. ruddy doesn't seem to log /me commands... < 1384360065 718760 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably just Bucket spouting some nonsense it was taught < 1384360083 732798 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No ruddy, you can't blame other bots < 1384360083 957433 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew? < 1384360221 424884 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: An esolang based on said rubik cube < 1384360270 738949 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: what operations are there? you can't rotate it -- that's effectively shifting an infinite list to its end < 1384360275 537511 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :instructions are commands on how to rotate stuff < 1384360353 283904 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g if you rotate the yellow side < 1384360368 455316 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then a row of orange squares are now there, where a row of green squares was < 1384360436 468889 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: So you're just defining transformations, then. Interesting... < 1384360485 267593 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the data would be the squares < 1384360490 487517 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm assuming each square is then basically a cell (a la Brainfuck, but 2D), and you can now shuffle cells < 1384360499 915758 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1384360508 189556 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cartesianco/the-ex1-rapid-3d-printing-of-circuit-boards < 1384360509 427475 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you would have to provide an offset for each rotation, from the center. < 1384360532 492480 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking of viewing the cube from one side < 1384360539 622879 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's what I assumed < 1384360547 548684 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it's just a 2D field < 1384360558 532901 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can rotate the whole cube itself too < 1384360564 731199 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rotate "the view" < 1384360573 987994 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :to not confuse it with the "actual rotation" of stuff < 1384360579 391908 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there are six views? < 1384360587 239005 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1384360598 654576 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And each view can be modified by rotating at different offsets in one of the four directions. < 1384360606 223914 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can switch between those < 1384360611 196180 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you can do stuff like uhm < 1384360628 408574 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if (0,0) == RedSquare then RotateLikeThis otherwise RotateLikeThat < 1384360665 194959 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :where 0,0 is either the center or the upper left corner < 1384360669 771260 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:a802:2180:ab2d:bade JOIN :#esoteric < 1384360674 231864 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what be more convenient < 1384360677 513436 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what would be interesting? < 1384360703 963889 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do tell < 1384360705 391259 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you ran the program and then printed a "window" of one of the views (obviously you can't print the whole view) < 1384360718 519140 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where each cell is one pixel < 1384360727 947456 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you ran that image through Piet < 1384360741 99506 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though you may perhaps need more than six sides, then < 1384360760 211666 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1384360761 416038 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1384360775 821975 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole interesting part would be that the data is represented by squares :) < 1384360814 79451 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :With only the six values? < 1384360823 225182 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a para-meta-multi-dimensional rubikified langton ant on a piet framework of infinite proportions! < 1384360832 895775 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: Well < 1384360839 930990 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need more than that < 1384360844 844152 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd only need two anyway < 1384360887 238069 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: I'm assuming you mean you would interpret data across runs of cells, as opposed to just one cell at a time < 1384360926 303688 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm? < 1384360940 856995 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a machine with a Rubik Cube as a Storage Device < 1384360944 244842 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's it < 1384360987 541097 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on a regular rubik's cube there are < 1384360988 823612 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm < 1384360997 289396 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I mean. You would be looking at the big picture as opposed to each cell individual. Initially I thought you intended for each cell to store some other value < 1384361009 979521 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :4.3 * 10^19 possible variations < 1384361013 913563 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I compared them to Brainfuck cells, and you agreed < 1384361037 300043 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :A "cell" can contain one of 6 values < 1384361167 398155 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course there are restrictions on how you can move data around < 1384361174 360770 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :since if you move data, other data moves as well < 1384361203 378055 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought a standard Rubik's Cube would have 6 sides * ( 6 values per cell ^ 9 cells per side ) => 60_466_176 possible states < 1384361282 776876 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia says there are 32 quintillion possible arrangements < 1384361313 705203 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that including rotations of the entire cube? < 1384361341 238941 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: If you wanted to allow all possible "settings", that would be 6^(6*9), not 6 * (6^9). < 1384361351 401304 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course not all of those are legal arrangements.) < 1384361363 856458 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is about 65 bits of Storage? < 1384361396 152420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, if you ignore rotations of the entire cube, the middle squares never move. < 1384361421 990808 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly it's still too early here for me to do any sort of thinking < 1384361425 373894 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite many of the 6^(6*9) states also don't have equal amounts of all colors. < 1384361449 244128 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Good point, I didn't account for a limited set of colors < 1384361557 914222 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Correct < 1384361608 83687 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is an infinite cube. any computation should be possible. remains to be proved, of course. < 1384361740 603374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott Darn spammer got past captcha again :( < 1384361740 964336 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1384362067 587485 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384362089 304878 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1384362602 610573 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1384362628 393777 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1384362676 340807 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1384362883 374523 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1384362962 940596 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: Have you thought of syntax for that esolang? < 1384363159 155334 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, not yet. < 1384363207 78765 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can sketch one out < 1384363685 462588 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you have a sketch, could you link me to it? < 1384363722 766524 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-32-78.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1384363756 689980 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-32-78.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1384363756 846519 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384363976 434654 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: http://codepad.org/mTwYvVAv < 1384363979 881421 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably something like that < 1384363986 171196 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :some Basic like syntax < 1384363998 102504 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :esentially you have a "cell pointer" with x,y coordinate < 1384364011 598486 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is part of the machine (so not stored on the rubik cube) < 1384364032 361394 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can increment it, decrement it < 1384364038 524337 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or set it to a specific value < 1384364045 668243 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get the value of a square by {x,y} < 1384364051 426546 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or {x + 9, y - 8} < 1384364061 273618 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and compare them < 1384364158 353970 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1384364768 342575 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384364923 135561 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1384365119 311107 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384365413 376800 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're rotating single rows/columns? < 1384365438 74927 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does a vertical rotation at offset 2 imply that all rows >= 2 are also rotated? < 1384365811 761916 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1384365891 294219 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you mention in your sketch that {x, y} is relative to the corners. I'm guessing that's a typo? < 1384365992 479175 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Thanks again for that tip about infants. I just fed one to a carnivorous plant to quiet it down. < 1384366020 812821 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from lunch, and no, I didn't eat any infants. < 1384366060 323868 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1384366121 769893 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: stop making me want this game < 1384366199 393558 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384366244 66773 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1384366434 660956 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: single rows/columns, yes < 1384366450 698475 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you rotate column 0 upwards < 1384366460 553565 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the same thing as rotating every other row downwards < 1384366478 648321 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think) < 1384366485 629571 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: Why is that a typo? < 1384366489 873396 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: No it isn't, you would have to also rotate the view for it to be the same < 1384366503 679837 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: Yeah < 1384366507 42216 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's an infinite cube, it doesn't have corners < 1384366544 561332 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't that depend on how you view it? < 1384366549 46131 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an upper left corner < 1384366551 889735 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I suppose it does < 1384366561 266237 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it "extends" to infinity from there < 1384366576 171184 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you only have positive offsets < 1384366577 9931 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e the buttom right corner is at (infinity,infinity) < 1384366639 799916 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-21.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1384366667 523400 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means there's no "center square" < 1384366671 402266 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least < 1384366673 434235 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-21.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1384366673 590413 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384366676 527201 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't know it's position :) < 1384366742 633242 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1384366766 899427 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have actually an unbounded tape < 1384366774 585710 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e if you face the white side < 1384366788 281515 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you rotate the first row right it turns red < 1384366790 136116 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :white = 0 < 1384366791 696523 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :red = 1 < 1384366805 441400 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it boils down to brainfuck with 1 bit cells < 1384366865 953576 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so actually pretty boring :( < 1384366879 912899 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate how everything is just syntactic sugar for brainfuck < 1384366888 153840 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or syntactic desugar < 1384366896 321814 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is brainfuck with 1 bit cells AND limited amount of cells still turing complete? < 1384366914 752462 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1384366917 298748 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate how everything is just syntactic sugar for assembly < 1384366933 357813 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because limited amount of cells implies that it has not infinite storage < 1384366963 4735 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but an infinite sized rubik's cube has infinite storage < 1384366999 673376 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck with one cell with an infinitely large value should be complete < 1384367020 612817 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1384367193 405644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1384367276 805138 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should? < 1384367305 627772 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :finite state machine + single counter < 1384367392 279202 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384367793 105013 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1384367802 313662 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, presumably two unlimited cells are turing complete < 1384367840 945044 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you need operations that make use of those cells < 1384367876 234522 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but brainfuck with two cells < 1384367967 434450 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384367990 497767 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384368337 145902 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384368452 929895 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: :-) They also work for a number of other things than food, for instance projectiles. < 1384368472 830506 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw Thor 2 today < 1384368534 87040 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: can you use them as building material? < 1384368548 724925 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I enjoyed it < 1384368557 302135 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: I don’t remember if anyone has asked for building materials in the game. < 1384368611 723281 :prooftechnique!~Also@132.198.156.152 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384368635 63824 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: a friend of mine had a tongue ring put in without anesthetics. now she's thor 2 < 1384368648 774063 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1384368666 895145 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a terrible lie < 1384368674 679530 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I told a terrible lie for the sake of a terrible pun < 1384368691 625240 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was okay < 1384368697 587849 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was the best kind of terrible pun < 1384368704 137305 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: There was one "help these guys fix this treehouse" kind of thing, for which a "plank" worked. < 1384368712 919247 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I have a feeling an infant would not have. < 1384368721 188915 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it probably wouldn’t. < 1384368737 503070 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/09/23 related < 1384368764 414045 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You *can* create one, but it doesn't do anything.) < 1384368770 164476 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1384368878 65326 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand the pun :( < 1384368888 334244 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Sore. < 1384368908 886010 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: The word "sore", when pronounced with a sore tongue or lisp, sounds like "Thor" < 1384368970 277745 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy appreciates a good pun < 1384368970 501847 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, this is spinal tap < 1384369015 810442 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1384369031 642744 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION applies the aforementioned egregious mapole on mrhmouse
< 1384369175 803013 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is mapole an amalgam of maple and pole? < 1384369213 204306 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup :D < 1384369273 278441 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 10 * 12 * 25.4 / 1000 < 1384369274 7175 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.048 < 1384369312 254692 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was that? < 1384369350 53721 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could've frinked it, but it was a conversion from 10 foot → 3.048 metres. < 1384369364 701547 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 10 ft to m < 1384369372 774788 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[] < 1384369383 628420 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp. < 1384369430 520398 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :More Scribblenauts: I just fixed global warming. < 1384369444 133459 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: did it involve infants? < 1384369449 479955 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric : MORE Scribblenauts? < 1384369455 859020 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's more than just Maxwell!? < 1384369456 593143 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. Though in retrospect, I should've tried to make it so. < 1384369474 145032 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: please tell me you at least fixed global hunger with infants < 1384369480 975018 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: He's got all those brothers, and that evil twin. < 1384369487 971024 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah < 1384369489 705326 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: Nobody's asked me to fix global hunger yet. < 1384369501 13967 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well when they do, at least you now have a plan < 1384369506 374113 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1384369507 190028 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink poulet < 1384369515 667735 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :poulet (undefined symbol) < 1384369523 725654 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink ft m < 1384369530 905410 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :381/1250 (exactly 0.3048) m^2 (area) < 1384369531 823535 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Global hunger seems a problem that a scribblenaut could solve pretty well < 1384369548 715960 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink --help < 1384369556 271383 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Syntax error: , line 1, near column 1 \ --help \ ^ \ 1 error(s) occurred during parsing. < 1384369573 540693 :prooftechnique!~Also@132.198.156.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's frink? < 1384369602 454947 :prooftechnique!~Also@132.198.156.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: HUGE FLYING BURGER WITH PICKLES < 1384369747 481875 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file mind < 1384369749 57922 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind: empty < 1384369761 800269 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to move around by adding wings to Maxwell, but now I just apply "flying fast" as adjectives. < 1384369804 304140 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1384370129 383365 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384370191 480844 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how does Scribblenauts handle unknown words? < 1384370222 860890 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: "What do you mean, unknown words?" < 1384370253 498881 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, if you use the nonsense word "foobarbaz" < 1384370274 893974 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It pops up a dictionary list if you give it a word it doesn't recognize. < 1384370297 884694 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, cool :) < 1384370308 542616 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For "foobarbaz", it suggests footbag, ferbam, fleabag, flower box, flowerbed, foie gras, and four more pages of stuff. < 1384370318 510914 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome. < 1384370342 642682 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf no it's true you burnedm e good < 1384370342 799077 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1384370346 5884 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I just told it to create "nothing", and it made a black hole instead. Hm.) < 1384370356 726833 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :very Lem < 1384370395 82728 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A black hole is kind of like contagious nothingness, except for the fact that it really isn't < 1384370435 684637 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Lem, as in the Stanislav of the same name? < 1384370453 88211 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye < 1384370465 85131 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: can you gorge an infant like a goose, and then make foie gras out of it? < 1384370486 422749 :prooftechnique!~Also@132.198.156.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a footbag? < 1384370504 422764 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: a hacky sack. < 1384370510 339126 :prooftechnique!~Also@132.198.156.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1384370534 155748 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/pfhkQsa.gif < 1384370539 659194 :prooftechnique!~Also@132.198.156.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curious what sort of object fleabag is in the game, too < 1384370546 970920 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguably, a black hole is more like a contagious everything.. < 1384370597 450845 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Probably not quite. < 1384370605 887029 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384370647 896289 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mermaid asked for some "gizmo" from above the surface, and I made a television, which promptly electrocuted us both. < 1384370667 787581 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. A "fleabag" is some kind of a building. < 1384370685 688376 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, did you win before you died < 1384370697 290203 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A seedy, rundown hotel or other lodging place" -- I guess it's from that. < 1384370713 710817 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now there's a seedy hotel at the bottom of the sea. < 1384370722 129697 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: please give her a black hole at the bottom of the sea < 1384370729 424629 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or try "drain" < 1384370753 805577 :prooftechnique!~Also@132.198.156.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Try a fork. < 1384370820 197828 :prooftechnique!~Also@132.198.156.152 QUIT : < 1384370838 362577 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I miss the good old days of CRTs. those were the last electrified appliances that I could apply righteous and cathartic percussive maintenance onto. < 1384370841 38954 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I seem to in fact have won before I died. < 1384370849 778831 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesssss < 1384370980 163837 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a program to convert binary decision trees to Internet Quiz Engine. < 1384371010 15661 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, new quizzes for the zzopher site! < 1384371082 789072 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't add any new quizzes yet; just a program to convert binary decision trees. < 1384371502 367404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust preparation http://nethack4.org/esolangs/preparation.bj < 1384371513 392603 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for ais523_preparation: 51.3 < 1384371533 844400 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on :) < 1384371537 76674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it beats every program < 1384371543 657943 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and /still/ isn't #1 on the leaderboard < 1384371679 757056 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only 0.7 points off #1, admittedly < 1384371682 250516 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is hardly anything < 1384371688 994340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I just need a program that beats space_hotel < 1384371702 634242 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, because this pushed space_hotel up to #1, I can rely on people targeting it now < 1384371733 640162 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust flangoustine >>>>>>>>[[-.]>] < 1384371736 510204 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for boily_flangoustine: 6.4 < 1384371801 863788 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1384371888 547879 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that beat space hotel? < 1384371903 55053 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it beats anything very much, given that it tends to run off the end of the program < 1384371917 208384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean a ()*21 around the outer []? < 1384371944 107097 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.175.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: flangoustine? < 1384371950 657517 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :an even so, isn't it likely to just terminate after 9 steps? < 1384372009 505952 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust stupidity >>>>>>>>>([-.]>)*21 < 1384372012 32255 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for int-e_stupidity: 15.8 < 1384372110 230973 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: it's kinda hard to explain. it implies one of my friends, wildly gesticulating around in a much uncoördinated manner, and lazily not doing something while doing it. < 1384372135 954125 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/jPId This is the program to do so. < 1384372176 527566 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :man this is like an eight hundred line brainfuck program... < 1384372192 123811 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dbztmcgwxjkenhfb QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1384372268 239199 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust stupidity . < 1384372270 781418 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for int-e_stupidity: 6.4 < 1384372277 244031 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I want to get it to #1 so I can write about it < 1384372284 972775 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you use < to delete a program, normally < 1384372290 752620 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that guarantees a score of 0 < 1384372296 497541 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust stupidity < < 1384372299 65371 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for int-e_stupidity: 0.0 < 1384372299 311841 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust flangoustine < < 1384372301 595589 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah so that's what this does :) < 1384372302 79505 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for boily_flangoustine: 0.0 < 1384372344 908601 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's by far the most common reason for the "off own end" loss < 1384372372 947607 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is in the rules mostly because there's no other sensible way to handle that situation, not because it's at all possible to generally trick opponents into doing it < 1384372396 371302 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: help what < 1384372410 210097 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have anything to help. < 1384372577 324235 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if this is an intended consequence of the scoring system or not < 1384372599 474242 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust wiggle ([]++[]--)*100000 < 1384372602 44187 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for int-e_wiggle: 6.4 < 1384372660 241140 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the [] is purely harming that program < 1384372676 547358 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :never zerotest your own flag unless you think the opponent is offset or turtle clearing it (and even in those cases, it's really dangerous) < 1384372691 414921 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if you test it and find it's zero, then if the opponent doesn't repair it on the same turn, you've lost < 1384372701 638286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zero-testing the /opponent's/ flag is fine, and commonly done, for the same reasons < 1384372713 419620 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust apathy (>[-])*100000 < 1384372715 757324 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for Bike_apathy: 12.7 < 1384372753 458643 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust pointlesslock >([-])*100000 < 1384372756 991491 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for ais523_pointlesslock: 6.4 < 1384372763 905850 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust pointlesslock >(-)*100000 < 1384372769 419537 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for ais523_pointlesslock: 7.2 < 1384372782 952444 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the scoring favours programs that can win, over programs that don't lose < 1384372799 475761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust pointlesslock >(+-)*100000 < 1384372804 101199 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for ais523_pointlesslock: 7.7 < 1384372813 770215 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust pointlesslock >+(+-)*100000 < 1384372819 328692 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for ais523_pointlesslock: 5.6 < 1384372823 256910 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust pointlesslock >(+-)*100000 < 1384372827 895523 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for ais523_pointlesslock: 7.7 < 1384372844 378240 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1384372863 756417 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, that actually beats preparation < 1384372872 117846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust pointlesslock < 1384372872 313140 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Use: !bfjoust . Scoreboard, programs, and a description of score calculation are at http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/ < 1384372873 653653 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust pointlesslock < < 1384372876 158704 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for ais523_pointlesslock: 0.0 < 1384372892 680862 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust wiggle >>>>>>>>((-)*100[-]>)*21 < 1384372896 279165 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for int-e_wiggle: 8.9 < 1384372903 692627 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :better than apathy :) < 1384372939 715760 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust wiggle >>>>>>>>((-)*100(-.)*50>)*21 < 1384372942 477452 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for int-e_wiggle: 1.7 < 1384372975 308117 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1384373004 801696 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust syntaxerror [ < 1384373007 387595 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for ais523_syntaxerror: 0.0 < 1384373016 330214 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's another way to delete a program < 1384373284 64148 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust stupidity +++>(+)*33>>(-)*29>>>>>>((-)*128.>)*21 < 1384373286 748988 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for int-e_stupidity: 10.9 < 1384373364 321908 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you might want to offset that turtle slightly < 1384373371 417290 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe put a zero test around it < 1384373446 7332 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Now there is a new quiz file; "Pokemon in 9 questions" has been converted using the binary decision tree program. < 1384373464 113574 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: probably, if I wanted to do something not-so-stupid :) < 1384373486 324408 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1384373501 556291 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it when people do stupid things, though, it often gives a challenge to beat them < 1384373533 777745 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia_wireless_frownie is basically a normal rush program with a bunch of arbitrary misbehaviour built in < 1384373534 855595 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it can decide which pokemon it is in just 9 questions? < 1384373552 303992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make it not get beaten by programs that beat normal rush programs < 1384373581 974181 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well there are more than 512 Pokémon, so… < 1384373609 441912 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 has an urban dictionary entry??? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=zzo38 < 1384373655 398605 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Only first generation. I didn't make up the questions; I only converted them. < 1384373677 836842 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I also got rid of the non-ASCII characters) < 1384373684 574928 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :generation 1 should be doable in 8 < 1384373698 938257 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :151 is between 128 and 256 < 1384373713 755947 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, even if you include all the glitch mons, including all the formes of Missingno., you could still theoretically do it in 8 < 1384373714 438955 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enjoy finding good questions though < 1384373727 48877 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes I know that. < 1384373738 649855 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"is its national dex number above x?" isn't good enough :P < 1384373755 119009 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Is it Pikachu?” < 1384373759 973305 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: it isn't, the glitch mons don't have sensible dex numbers < 1384373773 30270 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even then, it'd be a boring quiz < 1384373818 206698 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like I said I didn't make up the questions. < 1384373942 788268 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:a802:2180:ab2d:bade QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1384373960 415209 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1384374024 450812 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm not that into pokemon. < 1384374051 947032 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why I was answering the question < 1384374058 775992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I thought there was a reasonable chance you didn't know the answer < 1384374123 382601 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm pretty sure gen1 actually did have an 8-bit value to identify pokemon? < 1384374140 972830 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: it did, but it wasn't dex number < 1384374149 688298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and doesn't seem to correspond to any particular order, in fact < 1384374156 868053 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not user-visible < 1384374173 396928 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many missingnos are there? < 1384374194 956914 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots, like half the glitch mons are missingnos. < 1384374196 738293 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:a802:2180:ab2d:bade JOIN :#esoteric < 1384374198 631164 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, missingno.s < 1384374204 438405 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other half are just random < 1384374215 277782 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from 'M, which looks like missingno. and has similar but not identical stats < 1384374239 116799 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'M is commonly seen because its index number is the string terminator < 1384374293 942099 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :are glitchmons considered pokemons? < 1384374311 206378 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently there are 49 missingno formes < 1384374332 295870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a specific instane of a glitchmon is typically considered to be a Pokémon, but their species is not considered to be a Pokémon species < 1384374345 164472 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1384374356 514081 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the quiz is unlikely to be about them < 1384374378 790827 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1384374387 28564 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is what i get for being too old for pokemon < 1384374431 328769 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it got popular in america after i was in middle school becuase of the card game, and i never had a game boy) < 1384374449 157632 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. Pokémon < 1384374451 639945 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that takes me back < 1384374458 112418 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I'm probably not too /old/ for Pokémon < 1384374459 603612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: In a magazine once some 93 year old people who played Pokemon card wrote a letter to them. So, even old people do. < 1384374461 902137 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was playing it earlier this year < 1384374462 821094 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :to like... uhm < 1384374464 911870 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :age 9. < 1384374471 443743 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's lots I dislike about the latest games, X/Y < 1384374489 147872 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: are they japanese < 1384374490 574677 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the competitive battling seems better than Black/White, but I fear I wouldn't enjoy the ingame enough to make it worthwhile < 1384374503 634252 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never had the attention span for Pokemon, but I did have several of the shiny holographic cards < 1384374504 24475 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: The message was in English. < 1384374523 666483 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i'd like to meet them. < 1384374536 497949 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know who they are though, and I have lost the message. < 1384374570 85244 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still like to play Pokemon card too, especially the Pokemon card puzzle game. < 1384374585 851039 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how old are you? < 1384374611 765558 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: anything in particular? I rather like it < 1384374633 595245 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: a huge reliance on online play/trading with strangers is the thing that puts me off most < 1384374635 321238 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: O, have you tried to figure out the puzzle.5 game yet? I think it is past 14:00 UTC+1 < 1384374642 931331 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you wouldn't happen to know anything about k-servers would you? < 1384374643 523129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the plot is stupid and just doesn't work < 1384374649 401137 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the game is very easy compared to all the previous ones < 1384374652 304729 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah, i spammed you a bit in query, maybe you didn't notice? < 1384374664 67078 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I was sleeping. < 1384374664 643261 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally, some specific changes are ridiculous < 1384374672 705398 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry! < 1384374680 302865 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, don't worry < 1384374708 439904 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most absurd one, IIRC, is what they did with Flash < 1384374721 50327 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flash's effect is to light up an area around you < 1384374738 149342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is an ability, Illuminate, that's flavoured as lighting up an area < 1384374744 666775 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Illuminate increases encounter rate < 1384374745 514607 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://hastebin.com/raw/voqaxufuna < 1384374754 377450 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in generation 6, IIRC Flash /reduces/ encounter rate < 1384374759 138934 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I haven't played the game so don't know for sure < 1384374765 905986 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this inconsistency really bothers me < 1384374780 296702 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :something something flash being sudden and blinding < 1384374786 281490 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno < 1384374799 571990 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: well that's what it does in battle < 1384374813 819942 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn35-172.rz.hs-offenburg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1384374828 405235 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like the new Pokemon card rules; they aren't very good. I also don't like the variant with 4 side-cards, or the ordinary "sudden death" rule. They get rid of a lot of the tactics and strategy, involving defense, sacrifice, and other things. < 1384374828 691119 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also generation 6 seems to mostly have locations that are boring in terms of gameplay < 1384374832 429199 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the graphics are neat < 1384374853 889381 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And positional play; one of the most important features of Pokemon card. < 1384374877 826428 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hard to go back to grid-restricted games after playing Y though.. < 1384374936 505324 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I agree about the new TCG rules < 1384374953 649334 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seeing a speedrun of X is quite depressing, it has so many spare resources < 1384374979 663950 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the current best known route uses vitamins to increase happiness to get the Lucky Egg earlier < 1384374985 123222 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than needing them for battle < 1384374986 237573 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance < 1384375076 423801 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the speedruns use Lucario but mega evolve it exactly once, in the mega evolution tutorial < 1384375091 722394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind-of ridiculous to have that button option right there and not even need it < 1384375333 718565 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1384375433 62904 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a clue what's going on but I have the sudden desire to take my shoes off and eat canned spaghetti rings < 1384375500 216800 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: duly noted. < 1384375521 575898 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: which brand? < 1384375559 818329 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384376108 592753 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: generic < 1384376411 610524 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: call me a snob, but when it comes to canned pastas I accept nothing less than chef boyardee. < 1384376613 40063 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1384376648 762956 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust bathos (>-)*100000 < 1384376651 707507 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for Bike_bathos: 0.0 < 1384376656 9795 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1384376735 40893 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust bathoff_the_end >*10([-..]>)*100000 < 1384376737 782901 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for boily_bathoff_the_end: 11.2 < 1384376744 650443 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn35-172.rz.hs-offenburg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1384376751 469661 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin torieux. that's I think the best score I achieved right there. < 1384376869 569497 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :four-cycle clear? < 1384376880 814611 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's creative, at least? < 1384376923 236917 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a score in the double digits! considering my past record, that's quite good! < 1384377513 786919 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now aim for triple-digits. < 1384377577 235375 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone ever achieved that? < 1384377729 997205 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1384377732 162710 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's impossible < 1384377736 677090 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1384377747 498817 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if a perfect score would hit 100 or not < 1384377761 970958 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, one of my aims with omnipotence, and later preparation, was 1000 wins-losses < 1384377769 742588 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I achieved that with preparation last night < 1384377773 538518 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in my local testing) < 1384377827 740174 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384378443 805057 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-17-175.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1384378723 215096 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: botsnack < 1384378723 409689 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1384378741 131385 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ruddy a bot? < 1384378741 322371 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT THE HOUSE < 1384378751 817562 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's just special < 1384378775 225214 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wee oo wee oo, this is the turing police, present operator credentials or turing test results immediately < 1384378804 783473 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: friend of yours? < 1384378805 117388 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: but hey, 400 euros ( or more like... unsecured bbs with little ads, but people usually aren't direct implementations of formulas :) < 1384378814 67232 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do believe ruddy would fail the Turing test, with flying colors < 1384378814 506179 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correct < 1384378817 285515 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :see? < 1384378828 118110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a good Turing test would be to get the person you're testing to give a Turing test < 1384378849 964031 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as the rate at which CAPTCHAs are broken indicates, computers suck at Turing-testing < 1384378878 60344 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :have we tried the "pick which image from this set matches X criteria" approach yet? < 1384378892 343076 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you should be able to get a score of exactly 100, maybe. < 1384378952 299042 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fmap fmap fmap turing turing turing < 1384378952 478409 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what paren styles don't work?) < 1384378964 646833 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: the ones you won't balance, you shmuck. < 1384378964 841845 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and with that good night to y'all! /bin/ sh it doesn't < 1384378975 593461 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse, I think that's getting easier to be solved by computers < 1384379000 217447 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I figured as much, since there are fewer possible answers < 1384379032 960922 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if we mixed the two approaches (or any number of test types), with a random test each time instead of always a CAPTCHA? < 1384379071 990695 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: could you give me a Turing test? < 1384379072 209022 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you need operations that make use of those cells < 1384379073 594974 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also hard to get hold of large tagged image categories that your adversaries won't also get, which would mean you'd have to start again warping and distorting the images. < 1384379112 212098 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the idea of warped and distorted pictures of kittens pleases me < 1384379120 45508 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft had a cats-vs.-dogs CAPTCHA. < 1384379133 662623 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/projects/asirra/ < 1384379141 286624 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember when they introduced that thing. < 1384379187 435273 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :scrolled to the bottom, saw the developers, immediately thought "these are terrible pictures of cats and/or dogs" < 1384379236 465839 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also there's an "adopt me" link under each photo in ASIRRA, which means you may end up with a cat just because you were trying to log onto some website. < 1384379248 304229 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see no problems with this < 1384379270 650185 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You're a human!" yay < 1384379299 390505 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :can bots adapt the cats too? < 1384379305 490544 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :*adopt < 1384379311 307596 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: do you like cats? < 1384379311 531726 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 gram of TNT equivalent is equal (defined, even, I think) to 1 kcal < 1384379320 470444 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I would suppose they can do both. < 1384379324 479942 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think he's qualified to own pets. what about fungot? < 1384379324 687111 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: you why double you aitch why" is in evolution. he's the channel owner kicked out a lot of < 1384379331 929412 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Though the first one is a disquieting thought. < 1384379348 553184 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'm not getting you a cat, just so you know. < 1384379348 731475 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: there's enough spam in the channel who has been asked for id...) < 1384379412 458348 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :selecting all the dogs when asked to select all of the cats determined that I am a bot. < 1384379413 366811 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, who is ruddy? < 1384379413 767636 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :clap clap! < 1384379418 972022 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sea lion < 1384379420 23264 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :longshot, but does anyone have experience in making visuals for control flow < 1384379426 42146 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION eyes ruddy
< 1384379439 986505 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: I did that too, and was hoping for some sort of a funny message at least. < 1384379453 799055 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc, one of the puzzles in seventh guest involved ruddy < 1384379454 407565 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speak! < 1384379456 829250 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: clearly they haven't calibrated their tests for sassiness < 1384379468 997838 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy ruddy ruddy ♪ < 1384379469 386640 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speak! < 1384379473 369741 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1384379478 29063 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: row, row, row your boat < 1384379478 185454 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Row, row, row your butt < 1384379490 654968 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who.. who would teach it that < 1384379495 991989 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: very creative < 1384379496 414241 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A black hole is kind of like contagious nothingness, except for the fact that it really isn't < 1384379546 625658 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy is still very young, and doesn't have a large amount of data to work with < 1384379547 194268 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :224kb < 1384379552 856740 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's actually about right < 1384379556 531769 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was tasked to give a person something to get the attention of a dinosaur. I gave him/her a vuvuzela, but apparently it was *so* annoying that the person started attacking me. (Then the dinosaur ate him/her. The end.) < 1384379563 674278 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what does ruddy do? < 1384379564 110803 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's sassy now already < 1384379574 743214 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, he's sassy, and he spouts nonsense < 1384379574 901436 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like a shitty chatterbot < 1384379582 666086 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^pretty much that < 1384379609 677703 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy, meat fungot. fungot, this is ruddy. < 1384379609 924275 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: okay...... oh a web page that lame is not to be confused with fnord < 1384379610 82791 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sponsored by british taxpayers, of course) < 1384379628 380036 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: vuvuzelas are approx. as loud as MRI machines < 1384379631 718004 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :meet* even < 1384379729 904261 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy isn't as cool, but often gives more appropriate responses < 1384379730 128821 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explains some weird behaviour < 1384379730 573309 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: are you saying that when you're undergoing an MRI and/or a CAT scan it feels like a fast-spinning choir of faceless, robotic vuvuzelas? < 1384379766 748669 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, don't you ever start tooting the vuvu. I'm already scared enough of you. < 1384379766 946368 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what do you mean? like goto statement ( i know jix isn't here but i have only read a foreword < 1384379769 308978 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: a CAT scan is like silent < 1384379782 587624 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I wouldn't know. I never underwent one. < 1384379815 905137 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I wouldn't goto, I don't want any raptors charging, I shun the vuvuzelas. < 1384379816 72307 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: " having points" like in between the towers. < 1384379861 152104 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: neither sounds much at all like a vuvuzela fwiw < 1384379876 818168 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. tdsh. < 1384379915 895484 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION SPINNING MAGNETIC CHICKENS!
< 1384379924 833658 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: SPINNING MAGNETIC CHICKENS! < 1384379932 841430 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1384379952 550873 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's a no :( < 1384379961 847022 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think MRIs are deeper in pitch than vuvuzelas < 1384379978 633105 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily the cat goes whirr (and tuk-tuk-tuks a bit when it moves you) < 1384379979 24358 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1384380068 294930 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :mris have a surprisingly wide vocal range < 1384380099 777421 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-17-175.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1384380583 172276 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`oohlist (930) < 1384380585 252755 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :oohlist (930): shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1384380624 210550 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1384380669 392662 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is that similar to erflist? < 1384380690 256382 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea. < 1384380715 440649 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what erflist does. < 1384380725 976014 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which erflist < 1384380727 222730 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/erflist < 1384380737 649349 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`erflist (123) < 1384380739 204735 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :erflist (123): < 1384380747 70057 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a short list < 1384380759 414236 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen shorter < 1384380765 959531 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a lie, no I haven't < 1384381458 322796 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1384381840 939236 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning friends < 1384381857 749086 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evenin', kmc < 1384381869 803112 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning? you must be in weird-timezone-land < 1384381874 238478 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTC+9 < 1384381886 402104 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time lifthrasiir < 1384381888 114978 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for lifthrasiir is Thu Nov 14 07:31:26 2013 < 1384381896 213600 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :+9? isn't that the wrong way? < 1384381922 772640 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's not in south america or alaska < 1384381927 895390 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas < 1384381928 729991 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did you go visit ... samsung? < 1384381931 317588 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc < 1384381983 606784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thu Nov 14 07:33:00 KST 2013 < 1384381989 445960 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good night, kmc < 1384381992 719106 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\rainbow{THE FUTURE} < 1384382004 439896 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, this week I'm working from Samsung Digital City < 1384382855 937028 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1384383080 391658 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1384383146 687059 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1384383444 950922 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384383521 343727 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384383595 758849 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1384383687 375506 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1384383791 171349 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1384384073 963108 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1384385646 106918 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1384385980 703561 :augur!~augur@pool-71-191-99-118.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1384386218 202769 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1384386825 518457 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.175.239 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds