< 1386979221 961161 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386979234 141711 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe i should ask an actual swede. < 1386979250 341537 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: why you so idle < 1386979265 173197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: awake? < 1386979275 117783 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, why did I read "ask" as "smoke"? < 1386979295 520939 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION smokes an actual Taneb
< 1386979299 737876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: maybe you like smoking turnips, i dunno < 1386979300 720193 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1386979308 549832 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you smoke a Taneb? < 1386979312 760612 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds painful < 1386979319 637448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: why so _hideously_ idle < 1386979321 877876 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson, only for me < 1386979326 739348 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: by driving faster < 1386979327 388130 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right < 1386979333 724639 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, goodnight < 1386979336 99653 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1386979375 736838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i may be out of actual swedes. but in case not, is "Today, among other things, that song is considered somewhat the unofficial hymn of Sweden" about luciasången as preposterous as it sounds? < 1386979399 688252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could imagine it being true with s/the/an/ < 1386979452 797382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then the aussies have "waltzing mathilda", so what do i know < 1386979548 645212 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just edited it instead.
< 1386979606 253000 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with waltzing matilda? < 1386979656 841516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just not in the usual style for a national anthem hth < 1386979691 810974 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1386979816 782020 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.google.no/search?q=luciat%C3%A5g&biw=1176&bih=613&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=q6GrUuy7OYS47QaX2oAw&sqi=2&ved=0CCoQsAQ hth < 1386980153 706317 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the clever trick for getting orecchiete not to stack? < 1386980185 579567 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought stirring a lot while they cooked would do it but it doesn't. Do I need to separate the noodles individually by hand before adding to water? < 1386980291 364930 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://food52.com/hotline/16710-keep-orecchiette-from-sticking-together does this help? < 1386980401 563744 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Today's bug: If a prisoner happens to be on the toilet when his time in jail finishes, he will remain trapped on the toilet forever" game bug logs are great < 1386980496 775611 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I added them to water that was boiling hard, and I stirred frequently. The problem is that they are already stacked in the bag and the hot water makes them stick that way faster than stirring can break them up. < 1386980514 133206 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the solution is "buy shell noodles instead because they're just better." < 1386980706 488240 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shells are wonderful < 1386980720 438154 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think shells and rigatoni are my favorite < 1386980798 90549 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1386980988 752446 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shells cost more per pound at Safeway, though, and TJ's never seems to have them < 1386981131 398044 :RJones!~root@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386981306 126650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :douglass_: wouldn't it be a good idea to unstack them _before_ dropping them in the water, then. < 1386981334 772868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they're frozen or something. < 1386981354 569423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you mentioned that option. < 1386981358 786162 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386981393 430715 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we talking killy shells here or what < 1386981420 533765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: term unknown, please rephrase < 1386981431 223725 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill-y < 1386981448 693461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pasta shells hth < 1386981455 279353 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1386981457 44263 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1386981460 965241 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :who the fuck freezes pasta < 1386981479 221651 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trader joe's has a lot of frozen pasta dishes that are kinda nice < 1386981494 90528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly nobody, it was just the main reason i could think of for why you couldn't separate them before boiling < 1386981734 638672 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I consider the option of unstacking them individually by hand, rather than stirring them all at once, to take an unreasonable amount of time. < 1386981865 81974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm imagining shaking them into a dry bowl and separating them by "stirring" there. might even work. < 1386981906 111274 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1386981920 117853 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it help if you pour them in, like, before the water is boiling? < 1386981971 529518 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, does the package have any tips. < 1386981998 833281 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1386982081 233907 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hey, can someone help me understand Lazy K? <-- did you get any answer? < 1386982109 263275 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote lazy.lazy < 1386982109 452038 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ShelSilverstein says: Lazy Lazy Lazy Lazy Lazy Lazy Jane. She wants a drink of water so she waits and waits and waits and waits and waits for it to rain. < 1386982115 109850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen ThatOtherPerson < 1386982119 334196 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-12-14 00:02:07: Ah, right < 1386982132 861679 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, whoa, whoa < 1386982139 708086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :last seen in the future < 1386982178 290267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that's less than an hour ago < 1386982186 729590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`date < 1386982186 918386 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.102.71 PART :#esoteric < 1386982188 71461 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sat Dec 14 00:49:47 UTC 2013 < 1386982207 269937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it does the sane UTC thing < 1386982227 517307 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Not yet < 1386982233 635194 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I talked to Taneb about it a little < 1386982243 242733 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: p. sure mountain view time is the only sane time < 1386982279 491883 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing that bugs me about the wiki page is it only seems to describe how it is different from Unlambda < 1386982283 398033 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: right, real fast nora's hair salon III: shear disaster download is isomorphic to lazy k < 1386982300 269218 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I will try that with the remaining package. There are no tips on the label. < 1386982339 146690 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I've been looking into Nora, and I thought perhaps it would be easier to learn by learning about Lazy K < 1386982346 366529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: well lazy k is ski calculus, which is like a subset of unlambda, except that it's also lazy in evaluation order. < 1386982348 769301 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... my brain is being stretched < 1386982362 197570 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :real fast nora < 1386982374 14454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a sense, the lazy version is the more mathematically pure one. < 1386982388 984050 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's about the only part I understand ;D < 1386982389 539132 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah lazy k wasn't really very rigidly-conceived < 1386982428 941793 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think gould just thought of the language itself as something very obvious and so he only bothers describing the syntax and showing off lazier < 1386982459 646103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same abstraction elimination process for converting lambda calculus works for both. of course with lazy k you then get _lazy_ lambda calculus. < 1386982497 594306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it _is_ obvious i think. < 1386982507 457834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you know haskell and lambda calculus :P < 1386982587 593687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course as someone who has written unlambda, i'm biased. < 1386982600 439972 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand the general principles, but I don't really know how to program in it yet < 1386982616 234572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know how to program unlambda < 1386982617 90869 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Would you recommend starting in Unlambda first? < 1386982633 217696 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really sure < 1386982643 592409 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I don't know unlambda yet < 1386982680 989775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you need is a good understanding of how to do things in lambda calculus, and then how to abstraction eliminate. < 1386982686 172728 :_46bit_!sid10106@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nbibqtrzqqjsrvls NICK :_46bit < 1386982689 972190 :_46bit!sid10106@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nbibqtrzqqjsrvls QUIT :Changing host < 1386982690 161031 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz JOIN :#esoteric < 1386982714 919072 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hm, I have a fairly... basic idea of how to do things in Haskell < 1386982720 790719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: you might look at madore's unlambda page, it has many tips for how to program in that, which should at least approximately apply to lazy k. < 1386982728 548885 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :which obviously translates into a typed lambda calculus < 1386982744 541931 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i learnt the lambda calculus perfectly well from the wp article < 1386982746 271696 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably the point is more about evaluation order than types < 1386982750 462241 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :just sayin' < 1386982750 652224 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, thanks! < 1386982801 258044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: also one thing about laziness is that it's the order of evaluation that is guaranteed to work if _any_ does, so if you write a program that works _strictly_, it will automatically work lazily. although possibly with a space leak :P < 1386983158 954172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: you're definitely going to need to understand how to use higher order functions. < 1386983177 977282 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Luckily I understand those quite well < 1386983213 729513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1386983256 232727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you want to understand how to make data structures with them, e.g. simulating haskell's ADTs < 1386983288 621506 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that sounds interesting < 1386983299 884640 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the matter of flow control, in particular how to do recursion with the self-application trick. < 1386983336 814050 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :adts you could just do as a tagged union where the union element is a tuple right < 1386983371 701019 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's not the simplest way < 1386983380 113410 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the simplest way. < 1386983394 736692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's say to implement data Bool = False | True < 1386983412 903102 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you do that < 1386983441 504802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you implement an element of Bool as a function with _two_ arguments, one to use if it's False, one to use if it's True. < 1386983448 404088 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so instead of a tag you just have it only called by case functions < 1386983450 159590 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1386983473 624804 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have it pass the data if it exists to that function? < 1386983478 140678 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1386983483 753491 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right makes sense < 1386983492 190859 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly me, thinking of data as data < 1386983521 733465 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functions are data! < 1386983530 23951 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the future is the past < 1386983542 555668 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :All bikes are one < 1386983546 9565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :False = \x y -> y, True = \x y -> x, and then if b then x else y becomes just b x y < 1386983569 665144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i sort of switched the order of False and True there to make the if the right order) < 1386983604 441473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now if you instead have data Either a b = Left a | Right b < 1386983637 65026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then Left x = \l r -> l x and Right y = \l r -> r y < 1386983675 873380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you add more arguments for constructors that have more arguments. < 1386983702 430039 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, that's pretty cool < 1386983704 53545 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a tuple has just one constructor, so (x,y,z) = \f -> f x y z < 1386983728 693033 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's basically all you need to implement ADTs as functions. < 1386983952 206870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to understand lazy K's IO format, you need (x,y) pairs + one more thing called church numerals. < 1386984025 126129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a church numeral is a natural number encoded as a function applying another function that number of times. i.e. 1 = \f x -> f x, 2 = \f x -> f (f x), 3 = \f x -> f (f (f x)) etc. < 1386984118 955727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo consider scott encoding rather than church encoding < 1386984137 817575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i never remember the difference. < 1386984170 421712 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i only mentioned church for the numerals, which are definitely what lazy k uses. < 1386984227 1240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some but not all arithmetic is fairly easy with church numerals. < 1386984234 89534 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(subtraction is a pain.) < 1386984301 213561 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like tail is a pain with church lists < 1386984333 494112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldr (\x y -> (ord x,var$show y)) $ "Hello, world!" ++ repeat '\256' < 1386984334 830197 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `(GHC.Types.Int, < 1386984335 19037 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Debug.SimpleReflect.Expr.Expr)' < 1386984335 19194 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type `[GHC.Types.Char]' < 1386984345 69849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm something not quite right. < 1386984354 613978 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldr (\x y -> (ord x,var$show y)) undefined $ "Hello, world!" ++ repeat '\256' < 1386984355 756347 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : (72,(101,(108,(108,(111,(44,(32,(119,(111,(114,(108,(100,(33,(256,(256,(256,... < 1386984381 593519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThatOtherPerson: that's like the first step for encoding "Hello, world!" into lazy k format. < 1386984436 449176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't bother to use a proper list with a nil format, just inserts infinitely many 256 after the end. < 1386984487 519378 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, thanks! < 1386984513 749529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome! < 1386984545 97559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you'll find that particular encoding in my real fast nora implementation too.) < 1386984576 637629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, approximately, anyway. < 1386984997 261066 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :imho EOF should just be \Omega < 1386985158 922490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose that could work < 1386985200 528662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although mainly because you can write something that ignores the difference between number >= 256 < 1386985208 330888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+s < 1386985819 762582 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait how could that work < 1386985836 485792 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't do anything with omega, that was the joke < 1386985842 127842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's \Omega < 1386985849 843866 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinity? < 1386985864 63894 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's (lambda x.x x)(lambda x.x x) < 1386985883 502708 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1386985884 664017 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1386986185 635204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that omega < 1386986216 462789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sort of interpreted it as \f x -> fix f < 1386986228 149242 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie infinity < 1386986251 781148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1386986297 547416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo (exists x. (x, x -> Maybe x)) < 1386986593 635268 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1386986619 135390 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1386986647 43965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily good unpentadactyl morning! <-- my condolences on losing a finger < 1386986647 270396 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1386987087 151238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mrhmouse (Control.Arrow.>>>) < 1386987087 378397 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1386987150 555000 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (Control.Category.>>>) < 1386987151 429709 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Category cat => cat a b -> cat b c -> cat a c < 1386987175 316278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right it got moved and generalized < 1386987186 325028 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t foldr (\x y -> (ord x,var$show y)) undefined $ "Hello, world!" ++ repeat '\256' < 1386987187 305506 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Int, Expr) < 1386987195 82920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhhhhh trickysauce < 1386987206 596451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was like "how did you construct an infinite recursive tuple type???" < 1386987206 785177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whistles innocently
< 1386987219 451195 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinite types are too good < 1386987233 769299 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :too easy < 1386987248 241051 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :catab catbc catac < 1386987255 414081 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1386987258 212212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var "a very reasonable name for a variable, don't you think" < 1386987259 415260 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : a very reasonable name for a variable, don't you think < 1386987260 411542 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a cat, a cab, a bat, bacat! < 1386987288 299907 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text "a very reasonable text, don't you think" < 1386987289 381651 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : a very reasonable text, don't you think < 1386987435 327541 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text "An excellent text." < 1386987436 447520 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : An excellent text. < 1386987485 99841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (var . text) < 1386987486 498578 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match type `[GHC.Types.Char]' < 1386987486 687736 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : with `Debug.SimpleReflect.Expr.Expr' < 1386987486 876457 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: Debug.SimpleReflect.Expr.Expr -> GHC.Base.String < 1386987486 876612 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Actual type: GHC.Base.String -> Text.PrettyPrint.HughesPJ.Doc < 1386987536 761657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on second thought, that shouldn't work in any shape or form. < 1386987747 762429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell I had a dream that I has a secret esoteric lair <-- good, good, we may make an evil overlord of you yet < 1386987747 969294 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1386988361 977042 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1386988408 451456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask boily normally distributed glazed eyes served over bouchées of surreal bread rolls. <-- are you attempting to create québécois/r'lyehan fusion cuisine < 1386988408 662882 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1386988754 871030 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is r'lyehan a klingon word < 1386988956 989992 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you for thinking that as well. < 1386988980 271486 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386989058 534946 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh its a lovecraftian place < 1386989068 21547 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :r'lyeh i remember now < 1386989084 411459 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the language is like, aklo, or some shit like that. < 1386991953 214480 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:1e4b:d6ff:fe80:722d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386992100 331538 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:1e4b:d6ff:fe80:722d QUIT :Client Quit < 1386992111 216799 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:1e4b:d6ff:fe80:722d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386992167 896268 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1386992241 469835 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:1e4b:d6ff:fe80:722d QUIT :Client Quit < 1386992250 220994 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:1e4b:d6ff:fe80:722d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386992647 423182 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1386992727 313554 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember being so confused about over... why didn't anyone tell me that it was modify? (Or, maybe I'm thinking of a different over?) < 1386992892 782984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh just get over it < 1386993867 188899 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:1e4b:d6ff:fe80:722d QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1386994391 280805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1386994466 150957 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1386994582 452938 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a JOIN :#esoteric < 1386994825 816450 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1386995264 254461 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386995913 236221 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1386998549 486487 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386998584 894843 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386998851 888655 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1386999024 795756 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386999495 741271 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1387002325 12387 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1387002494 14056 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw man, google bought boston dynamics. < 1387002518 268410 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :all their robots are gonna be all corporate and soulless now < 1387002529 375559 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i for one etc. < 1387002555 430916 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Executives at the Internet giant are circumspect about what exactly they plan to do with their robot collection." < 1387002600 172926 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, they said they don't want to move into military contracting, at least. i guess < 1387002661 298221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :military /contracting/ < 1387002674 353449 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1387002748 771788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :leaving open the possibility of developing military robots for their own use < 1387002778 349621 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. heh. yeah. < 1387002800 800484 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should research the legality of spider death robots < 1387003473 708263 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Legality irrelevant. It's easier to ask forgiveness than permission < 1387003504 258066 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also easier to ask things if you haven't been shot < 1387003512 391971 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :New Amiga 68k port of Doom http://youtu.be/JpjVxuJBWak < 1387004828 94520 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387004851 330011 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 NICK :Guest6653 < 1387005135 204231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1387007678 693482 :SBoyo!~kvirc@154.5.185.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387008183 594616 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387008316 108956 :Guest6653!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387009076 530131 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387011208 242469 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387011227 800203 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387014375 749039 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387015074 113402 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387016957 528060 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Runtime Error (at 139:148): Access violation at address 7D2DA677 in module 'gdiplus.dll'. Read of address 00212C84." arrrr this wine be broken. < 1387017319 350734 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :All 'w' and 'm' characters are also very broken-looking. (Other characters are fine.) < 1387017339 325633 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun < 1387017795 439387 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387018463 758272 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Internal error: Expression error 'Runtime Error (at 16:21): Invalid floating point operation.'" < 1387018468 565650 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just keeps getting better. < 1387018827 191225 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:1e4b:d6ff:fe80:722d JOIN :#esoteric < 1387019618 963909 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387019676 568387 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1387019676 800822 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1387021792 227968 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387021950 147235 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:1e4b:d6ff:fe80:722d QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387022237 256141 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387022247 190769 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387025349 189972 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1387027535 89978 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1387027570 374924 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387027576 852321 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a JOIN :#esoteric < 1387027589 808452 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387027941 976006 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehttps://bitbucket.org/FeministSoftwareFoundation/c-plus-equality < 1387027971 781556 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bitbucket.org/FeministSoftwareFoundation/c-plus-equality < 1387028086 189753 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dafuq? < 1387028117 292769 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"1 is inherently phallic and thus misogynistic." < 1387028117 499429 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should write a compiler < 1387028119 942608 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is true! < 1387028129 660293 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do eet! < 1387028283 910992 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Variables self-declaring as pointers are known as "otherkin". A pointer to an array is an "arraykin"." < 1387028285 861094 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1387028295 65978 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of "running" a program, which implies thin privilege and pressure to "work out", programs are "given birth". < 1387028299 502389 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1387028353 486015 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do wonder if you could actually make a language out of it < 1387028360 347446 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or if it is too contradictory < 1387028398 527516 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :- header files are known as headHer files, with extension .Xir < 1387028453 482503 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: interesting, fizzbuzz states that 1 should be success < 1387028468 604462 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly that is misogynistic < 1387028520 907451 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao < 1387028538 442704 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Curly brackets are not allowed, as they perpetuate our society's stereotype of the 'curly' women. Instead, Python-esque indentation is used." < 1387028547 757052 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :- assignment constrains its lefthand side to an externally imposed presentation and orientation; replaced by accepts(), and lefthand side is free to refuse (NO MEANS NO!) < 1387028601 285498 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are no bugs, only snowflakes. < 1387028636 687435 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"% now known as the 'cock and balls operator'" < 1387028708 32558 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer intercal's rabbit operator < 1387028743 770887 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is? < 1387028767 991661 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we should make an entry in the esolang wiki < 1387028792 497041 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the simultaneous use of . and " < 1387028815 59343 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently back in punchcard days you could punch two characters as one input < 1387029009 872764 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure you couldn't with a punch-card? < 1387029029 164391 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a line printer could backspace and print a second character on top of an already-printed one < 1387029067 506869 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno < 1387029079 8140 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only vaguely remember what the justification of the rabbit was < 1387029142 1643 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also fun fact, the reason the APL charset is as weird as it is, is mainly because most of the characters were composed in a similar manner by typing one character over another one < 1387029187 101047 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :So vertical bar and delta gives you ⍋, e.g. < 1387029209 201764 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did they even have keyboards back in APL days? < 1387029230 721649 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Character sets don't matter much if you program on punchcards I suppose < 1387029274 533673 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387029292 897472 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387029337 345258 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :They did; here's what the IBM 2741 looked like apparently: http://xahlee.info/kbd/i/IBM_2741_printing_terminal_APL_keyboard.jpg < 1387029443 6265 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the left margin indicator in the middle of the page ... < 1387029753 100690 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, by "line printer" I think I meant "teletype" < 1387030709 408370 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1387030840 144354 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387031485 77521 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does english require to use 'a' in enumerations? < 1387031486 514844 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like uhm < 1387031491 651570 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dog, a cat, a hound, a house < 1387031501 617411 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a dog, cat, hound and a house? < 1387031509 90653 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I have a dog, a cat, a hound and a house? < 1387031809 904050 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387032192 686937 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like a GTK-Callgirl, too, hunspell < 1387032257 237855 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortticat < 1387032284 147262 :nortticat!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1387032996 210540 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i have a dog, cat, hound, and house" sounds acceptable to me < 1387033204 108040 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-32.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387033255 649383 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the a's it definitely works though < 1387033299 908316 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387033321 645803 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe JOIN :#esoteric < 1387033683 719692 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT : < 1387033903 953248 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387034361 358472 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1387035953 154007 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387036216 473118 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wine went from error messages to "sound stutters, whole computer hangs up, reboots after ten seconds or so"; I think I'll give up on it. < 1387036247 362273 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reboots? That's really weird < 1387036504 782712 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387036568 833519 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps something has configured a software watchdog feature on. < 1387036612 905238 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though /sys/class/watchdog is empty. < 1387036657 219416 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux has software watchdogs that let you reboot the system? < 1387036662 528904 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1387036668 331430 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/The_Linux_Kernel/Softdog_Driver < 1387036691 426244 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I doubt it's enabled by default much anywhere. < 1387036780 273561 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing much in the logs at the time of the reboot, except for a "kernel: [16305.769629] NVRM: Xid (0000:01:00): 61, 0092(1e64) 00000000 00000000" line. But that's a bit earlier, I think, and anyway quite frequent occurrence. (I'll blame the nvidia binary blob anyway, it's an easy target.) < 1387036848 227417 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT : < 1387036970 697200 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's a global freeze a software watchdog is useless anyway < 1387036983 719176 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :SteamOS comes with a LD_PRELOAD hack that prevents programs from changing the screen resolution, and with a compositor that scales fullscreen windows with a smaller size to the screen resolution. The LD_PRELOAD thing may be a bit of a kluge (and perhaps they’ll change that), but i approve. < 1387037019 664364 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: It's kind of a best-effort thing. < 1387037131 904993 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :24 out of 75 items in my Steam library have Linux versions, which is quite a percentage, if still a bit disappointing. < 1387037204 115726 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-50-252.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1387037242 401557 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-50-252.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1387037242 605248 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1387038059 724308 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-32.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387038667 836012 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387039281 176803 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1387039466 119310 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1387039576 82196 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1387039987 216791 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.7.205 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387040211 249253 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387040243 910620 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387040487 345072 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387040515 911486 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387040523 832122 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-32.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387040952 818040 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387041333 3581 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1387041555 348172 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: That's pretty interesting < 1387041567 338888 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the performance of that is < 1387041705 912117 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's common to use "we" in english papers apparentely? < 1387041724 935109 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "we invented some new method" and "we investigate stuff" < 1387041725 945486 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hell, since when. < 1387041738 69890 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we propose a new method ...." < 1387041748 899590 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1387041818 32718 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: So, it's not common? < 1387041842 124463 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :given no context it's not common. < 1387041851 496083 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're representing some form of group maybe it's common. < 1387041854 832146 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but written by one person? < 1387041855 758533 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-32.psoas.suomi.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1387041859 67593 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doubt it. < 1387041877 769698 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example if I cannot deduce who "we" is by just taking into account the context of the sentence.. < 1387041882 655474 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be anybody. < 1387041911 278366 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now if you explicitly specify your context then yes, "we" is acceptable. < 1387041916 981308 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://research.microsoft.com/pubs/200169/now-vldb.pdf <- that has "we" < 1387041942 524909 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright, that makes sense. < 1387041944 21698 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://research.microsoft.com/pubs/200047/cloudEdge.pdf <- also uses we < 1387041951 480113 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you're representing more than one person and I know that. < 1387041974 76433 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's why they made that apparent at the top of the document. < 1387041979 949510 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise you'd use "I"? < 1387041990 789319 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1387041997 351178 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you must use "I", do it over "we". < 1387042012 468769 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because "I" 'points' to the obvious context of the writer unless specified. < 1387042031 345789 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm asking because in german papers you better not use either "we" or "I" at all < 1387042045 635471 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s why I said "if you must use". < 1387042053 970956 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually self reference like that is not acceptable. < 1387042060 372307 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any context. < 1387042069 416102 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd use passive voice nearly everywhere < 1387042072 394800 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1387042079 141274 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A new method was developed" and stuff like that < 1387042081 981708 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you don't want to attach some sort of centered bias. < 1387042087 934444 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the paper and its content. < 1387042092 228153 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I've heard that passive voice is very uncommon in english anyway < 1387042108 399980 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :passive voice is common in english speakers with no knowledge on how they use their words. < 1387042108 829219 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some random papers I googled used "we" all over the place < 1387042124 538657 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is not common in english speakers < 1387042134 872479 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to translate my german abstract to english < 1387042144 974665 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's gonna be hell. < 1387042148 139358 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm wondering whether I should use we or just stick to passive voice < 1387042165 631250 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you representing a group, and are talking about something that relates to your situation/accomplishments? < 1387042181 817502 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, use "we". < 1387042182 880744 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're two guys < 1387042184 81751 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1387042186 401113 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :plural :) < 1387042188 244821 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :use we. < 1387042194 515949 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only if that second part applies. < 1387042202 80070 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ergo you've done something and are talking about it. < 1387042206 493868 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1387042211 22834 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have done something. < 1387042212 158453 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1387042215 256203 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, "we" is acceptable in this case. hehe. < 1387042230 759635 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :We designed a RISC CPU essentially < 1387042245 276979 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice! first time? < 1387042268 469014 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1387042274 6377 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :architecture design is fun as hell. < 1387042286 633146 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember building my first when I was like 14. < 1387042298 508317 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really small 8-bit RISC. < 1387042331 785386 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :designed to mirror some of the qualities of a certain famous MOS Tech. microprocessor. < 1387042332 959595 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how big an OISC CPU would be < 1387042341 668021 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: very small. < 1387042343 991234 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :very. small. < 1387042356 420253 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess maybe a dozen gates or so? < 1387042357 77695 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the die itself would probably take up a fraction of the space of most modern dies. < 1387042373 120503 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it'd certainly be less than modern architectures.. < 1387042384 122232 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you essentially are designing a control unit and ALU around one instruction. < 1387042401 732335 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. But it's nothing serious < 1387042415 223778 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like building a castle in a sandbox < 1387042415 458748 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey. < 1387042431 995168 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything in this field is serious. < 1387042445 248061 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's common in single-author papers in our field, at least. < 1387042455 246694 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or so I believe, anyway. < 1387042465 331500 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you built a RISC architecture. you can now say you have the capability of designing processor architectures now. < 1387042476 559228 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a pretty big accomplishment. < 1387042487 586616 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant what *we* did was nothing serious < 1387042492 910202 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it was. < 1387042494 264075 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1387042513 420770 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's called [[ The author's "we" ]] in Wikipedia's "Atypical uses of /we/" list. < 1387042513 827868 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What'd you use to simulate it/prototype it? Verilog? < 1387042537 140557 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387042541 973800 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best papers are HEP papers < 1387042550 289191 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When there's a thousand authors per paper < 1387042554 651603 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah, that's if you're taking your reader into the context with you. < 1387042599 144024 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure I've seen also uses that plainly don't include the reader. < 1387042633 694174 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't seen that in any research papers I've read. < 1387042690 855718 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I hadn't had the capability of designig processor architectures I couldn't possibly have designed one < 1387042697 457286 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :+already < 1387042714 76893 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but that's the point. < 1387042716 755975 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess our papers so rarely have a single author. < 1387042729 360229 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said you could do something, and did it! < 1387042740 703006 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you leveled up! < 1387042742 96742 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1387042788 869163 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your next duty is to make a befunge processor. < 1387042804 329697 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will recieve 10,000,000xp for this task. < 1387042840 157768 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To mitigate this, we analyze the problem and present --" from abstract of Christensen, M.G. (only author), "Accurate Estimation of Low Fundamental Frequencies From Real-Valued Measurements", IEEE Transactions on Audio, Speech and Language Processing. < 1387042850 429372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(First single-author paper I could find looking at its recent issues.) < 1387042851 689485 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's that a level up? < 1387042858 868453 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already knew what I was doing < 1387042878 859876 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but saying you knew what you were doing and actually demonstrating it are two different things. < 1387042887 70849 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you got an exp bonus. :P < 1387042908 242153 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's one of those cases where you bring your reader into the context with you. < 1387042930 305688 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reader is certainly not presenting anything. < 1387042962 830219 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just like saying "We then can conclude from this observation yadda yadda yadda blah blah blah" < 1387042965 956541 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :freefull: Probably not different at all. < 1387042995 942888 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: Well, how about "we refer the interested reader to [20]" -- is the reader part of that too? < 1387043024 576224 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose not. < 1387043038 578843 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a bad case of ambiguity: what does "we" really refer to then? < 1387043058 985691 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The author of the paper; I don't think it's very ambiguous at all. < 1387043071 943322 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is extremely ambiguous. < 1387043086 888106 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because in use of the author's "we", you must refer to both the reader and the author. < 1387043127 772903 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what does "we" refer to? if it refers to the author of the paper it should be "I" < 1387043134 217033 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's bloody singular, not plural. < 1387043157 941839 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you need to refer to the reader at all. < 1387043163 571935 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a singular we. < 1387043165 782499 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We#The_author.27s_.22we.22 < 1387043166 94319 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: Yeah, but it's not like I've learned much < 1387043174 222219 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I learnt that gtk callbacks are type unsafe as hell < 1387043180 822433 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's pretty much it < 1387043181 693043 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: Note the word "often". < 1387043203 826356 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet "we" cannot refer to a singular. < 1387043213 848212 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we" is not a singular. "I" is a singular. < 1387043221 719254 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's improper usage if that context is to be interpreted that way. < 1387043264 950198 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can't be improper if it's the accepted practice. < 1387043267 167939 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps the author is a member of some organization then. < 1387043289 640762 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you're stepping onto a very slippery slope. < 1387043310 307853 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they ~always are, so if you *want* to interpret them as speaking on behalf of their affiliated organization... < 1387043334 762895 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the context makes sense. < 1387043375 989212 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Some journals prefer using "we" rather than "I" as personal pronoun.[citation needed]" aw, I was hoping for a link. < 1387043385 341050 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1387043394 238030 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: Also it's actually a whole computer platform we designed < 1387043399 811386 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :including graphics card, keyboard controller etc. < 1387043446 187215 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What'd you use for an FPGA? < 1387043462 922799 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a hardware spec < 1387043467 521822 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a spec of functionality < 1387043474 106520 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which we implemented in a software emulator < 1387043568 220120 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we on the fly designed a programming language too < 1387043574 55194 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, lovely. I wish you the best of luck porting it to Verilog. :P < 1387043579 264653 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wrote a compiler that targets our architecture < 1387043587 769923 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: I'll probably use VHDL < 1387043591 133209 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I already know VHDL < 1387043594 712428 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeew, VHDL.. < 1387043596 905642 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I ever port it < 1387043599 405577 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1387043614 392585 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never liked VHDL for recreational things.. < 1387043659 575413 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really good in professional settings though. The verbosity makes it clear. < 1387043680 517613 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike a certain programming language who's name starts with the letter J I will fail to recognize the existence of. < 1387043773 153783 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1387043781 946696 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you ever been forced to use J? < 1387043790 310127 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Several times. < 1387043800 838394 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice. < 1387043806 364254 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Horrifying language, it is.. < 1387043815 200517 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you don't want to use Burlesque :) < 1387043815 432856 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I don't know if you'd really say J's name starts with J. < 1387043855 650952 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a great language though < 1387043866 283259 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew. < 1387043867 681927 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really enjoyed J < 1387043881 361774 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: sure. It ends in J, too, and there's a J in the middle. < 1387043885 558140 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not java. scre that < 1387043890 141555 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :screw* < 1387043909 328021 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1387043917 470646 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck java < 1387043918 458620 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: do you have any public details i could look at on your processor? < 1387043918 799523 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Sure, but I'm not entirely certain it was the language that was being referred to, given the way it was put. < 1387043926 697031 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: indeed < 1387043948 323910 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm sure it was the one that starts with J and ends with ava. < 1387043958 364556 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: although I did find the mind bending factor of J very interesting. I would not mind being payed to write it. < 1387043990 302123 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Right; it just seems that mroman interpreted it differently, is all. < 1387044062 117603 :Chillectual!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387044072 450845 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1387044072 695884 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean, Burlesque is really much more J-like than Java-like, at least as far as surface syntax is concerned.) < 1387044073 588792 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: the coolest part i thought was that it was made by the same guy that invented APL. < 1387044075 496125 :Chillectual!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com NICK :LinearInterpol < 1387044088 226883 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: wb < 1387044090 218940 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: APL is awesome. < 1387044091 403016 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thanks. < 1387044094 709949 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1387044100 217092 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly i have never played with it < 1387044110 850870 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had the pleasure of playing with it one time. < 1387044127 970416 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you have the special keyboard and all? < 1387044131 33980 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1387044132 736638 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1387044137 530706 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was freaky. < 1387044137 736295 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very cool < 1387044141 139697 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im sure, lol < 1387044193 877310 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the furthest ive gone so far with J is writing an 8-neighbor cellular automata with user settable rules < 1387044217 122069 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have never played with J. < 1387044219 765065 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a fantastic feeling seeing that the entire algorithm was expressed in 3 rather short lines of code < 1387044232 521068 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ain't it though? < 1387044238 186709 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest (of about 150 lines) was all gui stuff, lol < 1387044240 945633 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1387044254 66197 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :languages like that are lovely. < 1387044276 433186 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, i wish more people would use them < 1387044302 645693 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although a lot of features have been ported over to other languages < 1387044323 837260 :realz!~pinky@pool-98-113-152-65.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387044324 43558 :realz!~pinky@pool-98-113-152-65.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Changing host < 1387044324 43721 :realz!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1387044325 131558 :qlkzy_!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a JOIN :#esoteric < 1387044330 697207 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which as you know, is the usual tale great lang. < 1387044334 625320 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :langs* < 1387044336 104630 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1387044340 344389 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387044344 325475 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387044345 600605 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387044347 724759 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387044348 404575 :drlemon!~drlemon@cpe-108-185-0-32.socal.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387044349 34162 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387044349 541410 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387044349 904104 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387044350 921216 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387044353 643213 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: aww, no info? < 1387044360 494971 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1387044374 233822 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh damn. < 1387044378 18617 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lot of people. < 1387044382 878879 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, that was interesting < 1387044384 210939 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387044396 572496 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm off to play Tribes: Ascend. < 1387044402 689399 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com NICK :[li]|Gaming < 1387044408 566108 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1387044414 196507 :[li]|Gaming!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep it classy. < 1387044414 491389 :_46bit!sid10106@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-numknkfimsesjlvw JOIN :#esoteric < 1387044421 79817 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[li]|Gaming: right back at you < 1387044421 666481 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: what? < 1387044430 569781 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387044434 822086 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: on your proccessor/computer system < 1387044447 961401 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything open source? < 1387044454 21027 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com QUIT :Changing host < 1387044454 227347 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1387044464 265498 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1387044465 252366 :_46bit!sid10106@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-numknkfimsesjlvw QUIT :Changing host < 1387044465 458469 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz JOIN :#esoteric < 1387044471 448450 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bitbucket.org/mroman_/emulathor < 1387044479 642279 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: thanks! < 1387044496 772174 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but again: It's not science or useful at all < 1387044501 442287 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sciency < 1387044529 375852 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no worries < 1387044537 894704 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im just interested in absorbing as much as possible < 1387044698 844737 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1387044914 168921 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the compiler is an ugly mess < 1387044925 227374 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... most of it is < 1387045031 815222 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn32-170.rz.hs-offenburg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1387045034 10417 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :People need to write emulators in Rust < 1387045075 471083 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or haskell < 1387045095 21736 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: lol, most code is :D < 1387045098 974211 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Plain English < 1387045156 592009 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION brain 'splodes.
< 1387045169 176718 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too many ambiguities in english < 1387045193 932591 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387045195 32840 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:18:49] http://www.osmosian.com/ < 1387045195 239026 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:18:54] I HATE THEM SO MUCH < 1387045197 81513 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaargh < 1387045233 875503 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really Plain English is basically the real version of that feminist language < 1387045255 682464 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: omg, i saw that shit.. < 1387045256 306758 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is based on a Philosophy and it is awful < 1387045273 139465 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still have the Plain English compiler < 1387045276 630618 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even that is terrible < 1387045359 898565 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387045361 530832 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*downloads the manifesto* what is that font? are they expecting me to read this? < 1387045378 129559 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes I am < 1387045386 3771 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have an exam on that manifesto in one hour < 1387045388 633014 :atrapado!~dd@219.82.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387045390 498522 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I won't. < 1387045392 182434 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: https://en.wikipedia.com/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo is a perfect example < 1387045434 919371 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the had had had sentence < 1387045446 391855 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We believe that the convoluted object-oriented approach — together with the byzantine "C" programming language and all of its derivatives — can be removed from common usage within the next ten years" < 1387045452 427769 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :James while Johns had had had had had had < 1387045461 605827 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: yes, with haskell :D < 1387045464 863053 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This manifesto was written in 2006 < 1387045471 111589 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only three years left guys! < 1387045475 256176 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd better pick up < 1387045475 462794 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: wow, yeah. im reading through it right now < 1387045480 532352 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1387045529 39980 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also here is their sample program : http://pastebin.com/Ud8z8f7e < 1387045552 270391 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You think hunting down a semicolon was bullshit? < 1387045556 228161 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine debugging that code < 1387045592 920007 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... < 1387045593 409781 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\or is not plain english < 1387045598 219704 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: ugh, yeah i just downloaded the sample.zip.. this looks almost like LOLCODE < 1387045599 461629 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's 'a counter' < 1387045602 521530 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's 'the counter' < 1387045619 195449 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best part, by the way < 1387045619 860571 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what < 1387045622 780049 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the self compiler < 1387045624 904075 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to allocate memory myself? < 1387045630 917587 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Allocate memory for the work' < 1387045641 540777 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because despite their loud vocalization about everything being in plain english < 1387045646 57680 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I have to allocate memory myself I might as well stick to C < 1387045649 329689 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The self compiler is still full of assembly code < 1387045673 734496 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: yeah, this look like a really bad case of the cult of the begginner. < 1387045690 703689 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting never the less < 1387045709 913191 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not what i would ever want to use < 1387045732 669503 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once in a while, I go back to this site < 1387045736 299897 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever I want to get mad < 1387045741 118774 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1387045762 971590 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The works are some works." < 1387045772 25918 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much more understandable than C! < 1387045777 505292 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: yeah, i just saw that. what does that do? < 1387045784 115120 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck if I know < 1387045786 247907 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want < 1387045789 110265 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1387045789 990245 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the manual somewhere < 1387045794 432898 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But beware < 1387045798 378596 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The manual is also terrible < 1387045802 166447 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and will make your blood boil < 1387045803 387525 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i downloaded the zip, but no. ive had enough, lol < 1387045839 135180 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, satisfy my morbid curiosity. ive got some time to waste < 1387045865 800691 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION prepares for boiling blood.
< 1387045882 586079 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well there it is : https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19940612/instructions.pdf < 1387045886 142574 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks! < 1387045943 922012 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When you start me up, I will quickly take over your screen" < 1387045953 65530 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much like a terrorist < 1387045963 277652 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, the GUI is full fucking screen < 1387045966 870670 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is grey and terrible < 1387045982 841792 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im debating if i should pull out wine and see how bad it looks < 1387046024 922728 :SBoyo!~kvirc@154.5.185.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387046037 301376 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, this program is not powerfull enough to conquer xmonad. im glad it did not full screen on me < 1387046050 307150 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im pretty sure its not going to work though, lol < 1387046094 766473 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, just a black screen < 1387046101 331617 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The full pack is here : https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19940612/cal-3037.rar < 1387046146 407486 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really I don't think the language is that bad < 1387046160 544618 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it was just some project to make like a language to teach children about computer programming < 1387046163 229131 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be fine < 1387046171 748380 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they are so fucking proud of themselves < 1387046243 677923 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I don't do nested IFs. Nested ifs are a sure sign of unclear thinking, and that is something that I will not countenance. If you think this cramps your style too much, read my code to see how it's done. Then think again." < 1387046274 867996 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I don't do EQUATIONS. I do a little infix math, and I support "calculated fields", but almost all the code you write will be strictly procedural in nature. As the Osmosians always say, "The universe is an algorithm, not a formula." Words you should take to heart. Especially if you're a math-head." < 1387046283 984803 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :To say it in plain english: bullshit. < 1387046315 727050 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kinda want to hire them and tell them I want to get a math program < 1387046319 660774 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like heavy math shit < 1387046329 691484 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10.000 x 10.000 matrix calculation type thing < 1387046338 545836 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: i would have to disagree. iirc i read an article about a high school teacher switching to fp langs and his students understanding it much easier. < 1387046354 129066 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I didn't say it would be a good idea < 1387046359 829191 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it would be an okay project < 1387046362 405744 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohlol < 1387046362 836973 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if they fail < 1387046364 870369 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1387046381 443134 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the fact that they want to get rid of all other languages and think theirs is the one true language < 1387046386 536485 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its good to test the limits of what a programming language is, but dont bullshit the PLT community. < 1387046388 841250 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is oh so terrible < 1387046391 816342 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1387046394 880863 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1387046425 791296 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately, this is the first time I've heard of them. I wish it will be the last. < 1387046479 322778 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387046496 362527 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :About once a year I rediscover them and rant a bit < 1387046522 442516 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well please stop doing that then < 1387046531 817265 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387046537 717755 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw :( < 1387046567 922491 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1387046568 128566 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1387046583 326831 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, are you mocking a stupid language < 1387046592 544040 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes I am < 1387046593 24950 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo that's the true spirit of #esoteric < 1387046608 460629 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :May I use this moment to convince everybody to use Burlesque. kthxbye < 1387046617 564190 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: lol < 1387046621 45021 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the most creepiest language around < 1387046638 708909 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/burlesque/rwb2.pdf <- awesome to parse log files in it < 1387046652 730489 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is it creepy < 1387046687 390020 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's got a creepy name < 1387046689 937412 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Burlesque <- This? < 1387046695 692188 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Burlesque isn't creepy! < 1387046708 219025 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: oh, i see what you did there XD < 1387046745 749327 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what would be creepy? < 1387046748 287872 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And compact? < 1387046751 115109 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Zalgo language < 1387046754 859114 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zalgo? < 1387046757 977467 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: yeah, ive actually already seen burlesque. i like it. but im also one of those weirdoes that likes factor. < 1387046767 990444 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://eeemo.net/ < 1387046786 30762 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tͮ̎̄̏͗͑͑̈͛͌̾̓ͤ̐ͭ͗҉͕͙̣̬͖̟̤̳͍͈̞͔̠̻͞ͅḩ̡̝̺̪͓̩̹̰̹̩̺̿́ͩ̊̑͋͢ͅṵ͍̳̗̜͖͖͕̭̻̰͛̾̑̿̕͡s̻̙̫͚̣͕̙͚ͥ̽ͫ͒ͥ͂̋̚͘͜l͛͗̃̊̊̓̈́ͯ̄҉҉҉̬͈̤͉̟̯̟͞y̎ͮ̊̌̂̽̏ͤ̾ͧ͂ͯͪ̾̌̚͘͘҉̘̣͍̜͖̠̳̜͙̝̼̥̲́ < 1387046875 760871 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorate is haveing just the "fuck up the middle" checkbox selected. just enough embelleshment to be interesting, but not unreadable < 1387046897 330637 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: good job < 1387046901 943337 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just messed up my terminal < 1387046905 679510 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1387046915 443762 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately mIRC doesn't allow such foolishness < 1387046921 457670 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Characters don't leave their lines! < 1387046932 831842 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :With unicode and putty < 1387046941 470985 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi just doesnt render it properly.. i really should set up my fonts.. < 1387046958 978087 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can pretty much do such trickery as injecting text so that I read it as if somebody else wrote it < 1387046960 599209 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1387046963 755050 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of Unicode < 1387046969 260883 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should implement Arithmetica < 1387046981 605673 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Slereah/Arithmetica < 1387046982 802290 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, as opposed to mathematica? < 1387046984 716830 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kinda dropped it < 1387046988 375482 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1387047328 477218 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: You saw it on esolangs.org? < 1387047333 985456 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or are you golfing on golf.shinh.org? < 1387047365 120428 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is it called Αριθµητικών or Arithmetica < 1387047384 424979 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Αριθµητικών < 1387047398 347827 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I call it Arithmetica for the barbarians reading it < 1387047404 922730 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those dirty romans! < 1387047410 505484 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Arithmetikon" seems closer < 1387047413 392560 :SBoyo!~kvirc@154.5.185.114 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387047440 571703 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arithmetica is closer to latin phonology though < 1387047495 420758 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Why is gs2 still not ready ;)? < 1387047508 792415 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should work on that!! < 1387047518 870969 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: yup, i saw it on esolangs. i havent golfed yet, but ill try burlesque if i ever do < 1387047629 383928 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: The osmosian compiler is not available for download? < 1387047680 549439 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I don't really get the point of programming in plain english < 1387047695 421392 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming languages are supposed to be "formal" and "expressive" < 1387047719 114552 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman : The compiler used to be available, but they pulled it < 1387047722 640857 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I still have it! < 1387047723 527806 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19940612/cal-3037.rar < 1387047847 989149 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :implementing this stuff is easy but i don't wanna document it :( < 1387047887 844439 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: couldnt have said it better myself < 1387047916 978394 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well if you want to know the reason why they did it < 1387047920 202575 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read their "manifesto" < 1387047940 945004 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that you put the word in quotes < 1387048078 194038 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to sound alarmist but i believe that language was created by Hitler's ghost < 1387048084 735861 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it definitely does deserve being in quotes < 1387048086 686585 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1387048122 423462 :cimaster!~cimaster@193.105.154.68 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387048127 731592 :cimaster!~cimaster@193.105.154.68 QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1387048129 371948 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldnt it be funny if the individual frequented #esoteric? < 1387048155 21985 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably qualifies as an esoteric language < 1387048184 431211 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1387048240 133816 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way < 1387048244 316160 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their old site was much worse < 1387048290 879358 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://web.archive.org/web/20131214191118/http://www.osmosian.com/page04.png < 1387048562 781203 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387048571 448249 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it get any worse? < 1387048583 125989 :atrapado!~dd@219.82.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com QUIT :Changing host < 1387048583 332845 :atrapado!~dd@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1387048603 900323 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, that's an interesting line to see out of context when you join a channel < 1387048613 914433 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1387048625 805209 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there have been quite a few < 1387048648 143413 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: www.osmosian.com <- join the fun < 1387048720 270241 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were talking about ol' Plain English < 1387048723 659674 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this in particular : < 1387048724 776090 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://web.archive.org/web/20131214191118/http://www.osmosian.com/page04.png < 1387048756 758070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1387048910 804855 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont get this guy's hardon for claude monet. < 1387048916 351259 :begemott!~begemott@195.78.108.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387048927 458426 :begemott!~begemott@195.78.108.138 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1387048960 935266 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1387048984 838664 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387049146 129138 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im guessing this guy sees himself as some programming ARTEEST < 1387049425 78226 :heroux_!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1387049469 605303 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VdZR3deNdI < 1387049518 960043 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387049543 260316 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387049543 683340 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1387049547 900033 :heroux_!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl NICK :heroux < 1387049632 901905 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does feathercoin exist? Except to give ais523 nightmares < 1387049646 447123 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I don't have an objection to the word "feather" < 1387049738 762712 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, well the block chain has been found to be fundamentally broken recently < 1387049759 38865 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :peercoin actually sounds sensible < 1387049762 889672 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD, ooh, do tell < 1387049808 239206 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :laymans article about the topic by one of the guys that wrote the paper with a link to the paper in the article --> http://hackingdistributed.com/2013/11/04/bitcoin-is-broken/ < 1387050012 857122 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1387050013 897050 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"under the best of circumstances, at least 2/3rds of the participating nodes have to be honest to protect against our attack. But achieving this 2/3 bound is going to be difficult in practice. We outline a practical fix to the protocol that is easy to deploy and will guard against the attack as long as 3/4ths of the miners are honest. - See more at: http://hackingdistributed.com/2013/11/04/bitcoin-is-broken/#sthash.cF1z946n.dpuf" < 1387050031 826232 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I losing my mind, or is 3/4 > 2/3? < 1387050039 429853 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I'm misreading it < 1387050064 393250 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-32.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387050084 536754 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yeah, that confused me for a second too < 1387050156 607288 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :x-1/x probably has lim->inf = 1 < 1387050208 22934 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: agreed < 1387050265 163412 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the derivation of both is 1 < 1387050277 766433 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1387050400 517639 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We're looking for people that want to sell Bitcoins on the Bittylicious platform" < 1387050424 620922 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Our proposed fix raises the threshold to 25% if universally adopted. And, while there may be other fixes, no fix can raise it above 33%. - See more at: http://hackingdistributed.com/2013/11/04/bitcoin-is-broken/#sthash.cF1z946n.dpuf" < 1387050431 658635 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much clearer than that other sentence < 1387050591 786215 :[li]|Gaming!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com NICK :LinearInterpol < 1387050841 774871 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The comments are just... ugh < 1387050982 706557 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 2^8 PM :D < 1387051134 768425 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387051170 801421 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387051257 456349 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I tried to distill the information content of your posts but ended up with the empty set. Here's a gentle hint: if your arguments do not invoke math, they are not going to be persuasive, at least, not to technical people. < 1387051261 447709 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this. < 1387051279 388222 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguments about what? < 1387051331 257216 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i wont post the comment. its pretty long and vacuous. just search a snippet of what i just pasted and look at the comment above it. < 1387051364 754385 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're talking about this bitcoin stuff? < 1387051368 227541 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387051396 60556 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: mhm. about the link i posted a little while ago < 1387051430 822009 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387051519 928598 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1387051589 224416 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387051728 287149 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look, all you're doing is a syntactic match. You're finding words that sound the same in a random walk through concept space. < 1387051735 26974 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, this man is on a roll. < 1387051750 22289 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm so stealing that line. < 1387051799 954567 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :word salad < 1387051860 232511 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but it accurately describes what the person being replied to was doing. as well as this is something i encounter a lot and the man put it so succinctly. < 1387051885 446767 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice paper, though they do not show that there strategy is optimal (and thus, the actual required pool sizes may be smaller.) < 1387051968 39378 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i dont think an proof of optimality is neccessary, just that an unfair advantage can be gained through the described process. < 1387052016 816954 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, except for the claimed security against pools of 25% size with their fix. < 1387052087 555078 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should tell him that then < 1387052095 866157 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I didn't mean to distract from the key insight, which is, essentially, that immediately publishing a found block is not necessarily the best possible strategy.) < 1387052133 255996 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right right, very good point though < 1387052429 745827 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1387052433 799647 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup < 1387052444 304243 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ceiling < 1387052704 407019 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1387052960 603929 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1387053513 320017 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: sup < 1387053513 320202 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: okay, that's fair enough. < 1387053528 128333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: too much is never enough < 1387053528 335079 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but i'll humor you with random comments < 1387053534 842561 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: for a nominal fee? < 1387053535 93681 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that could work, but there seems to be the fbi field office, or sing sing, or something < 1387053548 43975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot's going up the river for a good long time < 1387053548 285149 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: from the eight language polyglot page: " 25 jan 2001 richard stallman the proper name is " fnord" < 1387053559 743799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot knows the True Name of RMS < 1387054100 534474 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was scary relevant. < 1387054111 317115 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the initial part. < 1387054152 658450 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn32-170.rz.hs-offenburg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1387054252 741203 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes fungot
< 1387055357 776238 :sky__!~sky@f054177001.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1387055403 833320 :sky__!~sky@f054177001.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387055609 215808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nng, Chromium has somehow stopped making "g" a working keyword for a Google search. If I switch the keyword to something else (like "gg"), it seems to work; but not when it's just "g". < 1387055660 996168 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "g" works if Google is not set as the default search engine. < 1387055670 115458 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I can somehow have no default search engine. < 1387055701 754799 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't seem to be possible to delete the one set default. < 1387056022 448655 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could not use chrome < 1387056048 774970 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't quite understand why it won't work, though. < 1387056092 20727 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems so very specific to "g"; if Google is set as the default search engine, "g" doesn't seem to work as a keyword for anything else; but other single letters (like "q") are no problem. < 1387056250 885424 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I added a new search engine called "Gurgle", with the keyword "g" and a Google search URL, and set that as the default. That seems to work. < 1387056269 82969 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the slight cosmetic issue that the bar now says "search Gurgle" instead of "search Google", but... < 1387056298 124328 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe I should've just switched to that duck thing?) < 1387056539 275878 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to develop a language where each statement contains a bunch of parts that can be evaluated in any order < 1387056562 108603 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you could go < 1387056664 590727 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems like a feature and not a bug fungot < 1387056667 284632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, fizzie < 1387056688 721725 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :switch to duckduckgo. < 1387056694 733627 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's much better. < 1387056695 800368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two: whenever fungot's not responding, all the other characters should be asking "Where's fungot?" < 1387056697 424193 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :destVector.pushBack(v), v=srcVector[n], !map.has(v) < 1387056730 96914 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's fungot? < 1387056730 380975 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: calculation of fnord fnord on. i want the old one is so that threads are a bitch < 1387056731 51552 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this means "add all contents of srcVector that isn't in map into destVector" < 1387056733 93048 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right there. < 1387056739 602135 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the compiler would compile it to < 1387056765 68875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot doesn't like me anymore? :( < 1387056765 321434 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: fnord annoying that way. and i never seen okoing before... < 1387056783 860204 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: There's a limit of no more than four consecutive replies, which I'm sure you're aware of. < 1387056798 642550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i? < 1387056807 603372 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I am now < 1387056820 374634 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure that was covered on fungot 101. < 1387056820 577687 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: not a quine: < 1387056823 236991 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for(int n=0; n. 06(For 13the 04other 07kind 08of 09esoterica, 02try 06#esoteric 13on 04irc.dal.net.) < 1387059411 864410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VipSS: are you a bot? < 1387059483 776471 :VipSS!~bestlook0@85.206.141.79.static.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :yap < 1387059567 437467 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387059603 339668 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1387059738 633520 :VipSS!~bestlook0@85.206.141.79.static.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiora fiori fio < 1387059788 607297 :VipSS!~bestlook0@85.206.141.79.static.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you agree ? < 1387059799 193647 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387059845 51292 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1387059877 685379 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387060049 604930 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387060117 607681 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :VipSS, hello how are you < 1387060177 634505 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1387060300 977942 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, meet VipSS < 1387060301 221582 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: wonder if i can find about it < 1387060382 177125 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387060402 795259 :VipSS!~bestlook0@85.206.141.79.static.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi phantom , thx, d you ? < 1387060547 810864 :VipSS!~bestlook0@85.206.141.79.static.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey can we find a drink ?! i am ;) cheerrzz < 1387060608 86762 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VipSS: do you understand what this channel's about? < 1387060628 455935 :VipSS!~bestlook0@85.206.141.79.static.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :noo < 1387060663 478951 :VipSS!~bestlook0@85.206.141.79.static.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me < 1387060686 663621 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about programming languages, specifically ones that are designed to be weird rather than useful < 1387060713 19778 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387060722 279116 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :Client Quit < 1387060732 902718 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :VipSS, ais523 is lying, it's hardly ever about that < 1387060759 47481 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387060759 506443 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, it's supposed to be about that, though < 1387060777 619996 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I thought our rule atm was that people have to be at least interested in being ontopic on occasion < 1387060784 437135 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, otherwise it'd just be #defocus < 1387060812 42774 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, yes, but primarily it serves as a centring point for all the other things we talk about < 1387060897 591904 :VipSS!~bestlook0@85.206.141.79.static.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean hacking and virus programs ! and you can talk about solutions ! < 1387060910 260896 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :might as well < 1387060930 85166 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VipSS: not really < 1387060944 640586 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's some overlap, but it's mostly about admiring things like ASCII-only code < 1387061006 832542 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387061188 212659 :VipSS!~bestlook0@85.206.141.79.static.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will tell my opinion about, after ... you know < 1387061273 225470 :VipSS!~bestlook0@85.206.141.79.static.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :joking , it is none of my interest , sorry guys < 1387061315 597787 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is it only about esoteric programming languages, not about esoteric code in other programming languages? < 1387061351 668392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it's not really a stretch to make it about esoprograming generally < 1387061385 723112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually this is (or used to be) a good channel for me to ask when I have bizarre programming problems in general < 1387061398 877519 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it tends to solve the problem you claim to have rather than the problem it thinks you have < 1387061404 645478 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sometimes I have some very weird problems < 1387061407 371633 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh sure, but I'm asking what epcifically counts as on topic < 1387061442 905646 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember going to #ocaml with a question that boiled down to "I have a sandbox that works like X for my marking script, now I need to convert a char to a string, but because of my sandbox I can't use the standard library, any ideas?" < 1387061455 825564 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, the solution is that strings are mutable in OCaml < 1387061463 277918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you start with an arbitrary one-character string < 1387061470 388354 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then concatenate it to the null string to create a fresh string < 1387061475 78404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then mutate the fresh string < 1387061484 111515 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was the #ocaml solution? < 1387061499 450872 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: we were working on it together, that solution was what we came up with collectively < 1387061509 635666 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1387061513 340497 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone else mentioned using the standard library via the FFI rather than directly < 1387061519 116657 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't pay much attention to that < 1387061525 599399 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but one of the students escaped the sandbox using it < 1387061531 812625 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1387061532 384327 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so perhaps I should have done < 1387061559 279111 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but because I'm paranoid, there were two sandboxes < 1387061565 593987 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they didn't escape the outside one, so all was well < 1387061596 286803 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at what level where the two sandboxes? the ocaml compiler and the operating system? < 1387061651 438861 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one was at the parser level, it rejected uses of unauthorized libraries via refusing to parse them < 1387061654 769374 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1387061659 514572 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other was Linux's syscall-based sandbox < 1387061677 661827 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that turns off all syscalls but reads and writes to files that were already opened in advance, exits, and returning from signal handlers < 1387061739 308973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sysadmins actually set up a VM for that, because it wasn't compiled into the kernel on the standard Linux build at our organization < 1387061744 750616 :VipSS!~bestlook0@85.206.141.79.static.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1387061769 364885 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in html, I can use to have a server-side image map that submits a form, right? < 1387061810 74742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, no idea < 1387061816 756407 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can believe that something like that's possible < 1387061819 148949 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but don't know the syntax < 1387061827 393881 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try later < 1387061862 463764 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's clearly possible but the question is whether it's possible without javascript < 1387061886 572601 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the html standard seems to say it's possilbe, but I'll have to test how much it works in browsers < 1387062117 356099 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it's on http://caniuse.com < 1387062130 313740 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1387062149 753700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps not < 1387062183 270556 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nice webpage, I haven't heared of that < 1387062211 735173 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not mine < 1387062418 980746 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check what that says about extra svg blending modes like http://dev.w3.org/fxtf/compositing-1/ < 1387062494 677243 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do those have only the more expensive multiply and screen modes instead of supporting the faster add and subtract as well though? more expensive when alpha is involved that is. < 1387062526 679798 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, http://caniuse.com/ doesn't mentino these < 1387063252 258100 :atrapado!~dd@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387064361 651136 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-141-173.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1387064869 94764 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1387065195 195165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :[Just (), Nothing] >>= repeat | Set the controls for the heart of the sun | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1387065243 592012 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [Just (), Nothing] >>= repeat < 1387065244 735377 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Just (),Jus... < 1387065255 962966 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm? < 1387065262 883004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes? < 1387065312 645535 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hint: compare to previous topic) < 1387065341 753845 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1387065342 645545 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lost it :( < 1387065353 740465 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :su015315 -: NOTHING IS BEYOND OUR REACH < 1387065355 724454 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :su015315 +: [Just (), Nothing] >>= repeat < 1387065357 756816 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(diff) < 1387065360 611144 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1387065431 13382 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww. lol. < 1387065440 767494 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOTHING IS BEYOND OUR REACH. < 1387065494 619286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t repeat < 1387065495 647540 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> [a] < 1387065496 139681 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1387065506 867126 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when was colon lambdabot syntax? < 1387065514 57439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since always < 1387065522 569756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only for :t and :k, though < 1387065531 315630 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1387065545 623791 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so trying to understand that work < 1387065573 960973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mentally expand it into "do {x <- [Just (), Nothing]; repeat x}", is that the correct resugaring? < 1387065583 421480 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :easier to just think of it as < 1387065590 403400 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.124.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :concatMap repeat [Just (), Nothing] < 1387065592 349965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes