00:01:21 I... had problems with Arch that will not occur this time but now I am scared of Arch 00:01:21 i've used arch for like two years 00:01:24 i am scared of arch 00:01:39 don't make the mistakes i did! 00:07:10 arch is scary as shit but it's not as scary as slackware. 00:17:02 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 00:20:00 -!- olsner has quit (Quit: Leaving). 00:30:21 -!- glogbackup has joined. 00:30:39 -!- conehead has joined. 00:32:50 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU1NTc cool 00:44:51 how is arch scary? 00:46:04 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 00:47:31 myname, I had some problems installing it on my laptop due to problems with a) the university internet, and b) my laptop 00:47:41 Also, it gave me NOTHING 00:47:43 NOTHING 00:48:01 well, i saw Arch in the gym once, trying to bench press like three hundred pounds. they almost managed it, but couldn't, and got so frustrated, they kicked the bed and it fell over 00:48:30 what 00:48:59 Right? I mean you have to worry about that. 00:50:56 damn straight 00:54:50 -!- carado has joined. 00:54:52 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 01:15:52 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 01:52:36 -!- ^v has joined. 01:53:10 -!- tromp_ has joined. 02:01:56 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 02:03:38 -!- conehead has joined. 02:13:08 -!- yorick has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:18:56 -!- korisha has joined. 02:19:46 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:29:01 -!- korisha has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:34:03 -!- ksendzova has joined. 02:37:43 elliott: https://proofmarket.org/ 02:37:52 -!- ksendzova has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:38:09 -!- Bike has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:39:28 -!- Bike has joined. 03:07:56 -!- ^v has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:33:11 -!- nooodl has quit (Quit: Ik ga weg). 03:40:53 -!- Sorella has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:46:20 -!- sseehh_ has joined. 03:47:21 -!- sseehh_ has left ("Leaving"). 04:15:25 Didn't robotstxt.org used to not have ads/ 04:16:40 o.O 2007 it switched. I feel old. 04:17:57 in 2007 i was six years old 04:19:04 really? 04:19:13 not really 04:19:14 that... doesn't quite add up 04:20:26 if i was twelve i couldn't have gotten so blazed with sgeo back in indiana 04:21:58 what 04:22:13 -!- LinearInterpol has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 04:23:29 cool party once we figured out how to circumvent the import restrictions. can you believe they won't let you bring kegs of potassium iodide? 04:42:41 -!- mauke has quit (Disconnected by services). 04:42:51 -!- mauke has joined. 04:45:01 -!- preflex has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 04:45:29 -!- preflex_ has joined. 04:45:55 -!- preflex_ has changed nick to preflex. 04:46:42 today in SF i saw a billboard reading "Facebook is #1, huh? I dare you to check out www.PrimeHangout.com Let the competition begin" 04:47:56 kidneyfilm 04:48:13 anusblog 04:48:19 https://twitter.com/search?q=smell%20colon 04:48:55 kmc: i double dog dare you to check it out 04:52:58 -!- tromp__ has joined. 04:53:49 -!- tromp__ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:54:23 -!- tromp__ has joined. 04:54:51 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 04:59:17 -!- tromp__ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 05:25:20 * Sgeo is unsure if Oz's approach to IO is morally distinct from lazy I/O 05:25:25 At least Oz doesn't claim to be pure 05:25:43 But I can see finalization being a problem... I think 05:26:38 -!- tromp_ has joined. 05:36:24 -!- drlemon has joined. 05:54:00 A nice screenshot of Mozart/Oz in action: http://mozart.github.io/mozart-v1/doc-1.4.0/mozart-stdlib/wp/qtk/html/picture100.gif 05:57:55 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 06:04:21 -!- kmc has set topic: SURLYSPAWN is part of the ANGRYNEIGHBOR family of radar retro-reflectors. | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/. 06:18:10 http://leaksource.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/nsa-ant-ragemaster.jpg 06:18:31 -!- LinearInterpol has joined. 06:20:50 http://i.imgur.com/qwZih9U.jpg Khadafy 06:21:31 yep looks just like him 06:26:43 Sgeo: is this like... intentional 06:26:57 Bike: I assume not 06:37:09 I THINK I UNDERSTAND DUAL NUMBERS NOW 06:37:28 Or... maybe? 06:37:28 http://mathwithbaddrawings.com/2013/08/07/0-999-and-the-debate-that-repeats-forever/ 06:37:45 Is the ε that that page describes the thing in dual numbers? 06:37:49 the fuck is a dual number 06:37:59 do you mean nonstandard numbers 06:38:16 ε^2 = 0 06:38:51 ε!=0 06:39:06 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIwUAqavC7I 06:39:11 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_number 06:39:47 -!- ThatOtherPerson has joined. 06:40:23 you can have a real times that eps, so, no 06:40:57 0.999... is actually equal to 2 06:41:02 little known fact 06:42:15 anyway it seems the person who wrote that article is mostly right but doesn't really properly know why they're right 06:43:54 Bike: oh, make sense (bad way to phrase that though) 06:44:08 you're a bad way to phrase 06:44:35 Bike: Sgeo was telling you to make sense 06:44:48 i'm incapable 06:44:50 fungot: make sense 06:44:50 shachaf: why do think the media is happily trying to waste taxpayer money 06:44:52 *makes sense 06:45:02 fungot whoaaaaaaaa 06:45:02 shachaf: its not for everyone of course. hegel thought it was more like 06:45:32 hegel?? fungot don't do this to me 06:45:32 Bike: it's crashed like 6 times today. it also affects ability to understand quantified nouns 06:45:44 fungot: hegel was, like, the man. tell me more 06:45:44 shachaf: i think i'll do some work. fnord because it looks stupid 06:45:53 yes, i get that from hegel as well, fungot, why don't you talk about spinoza or something instead 06:45:53 Bike: because it is evolutionarily superior to most computers. is that right? but now, by the way 06:46:14 no, fungot, it is not right. spinoza's computer was only evolutionary superior to some mechanical bookshelves. 06:46:14 Bike: i just mean, of course). cool! :d) 06:46:37 fungot: wow don't listen to Bike he's just a bicycle 06:46:37 shachaf: the place you applying isn't worth applying for i'd say it was a single large heap for all processes." 06:46:48 fungot: can i have more ""fungot wisdom"" 06:46:48 shachaf: some athena machines use various snapshots named fnord some others use 7.7.1 ( from fnord): 06:47:14 Sgeo: i mean, with a smallest possible nubmer your'e basically giving up on rationals. and who doesn't like rationals? 06:47:59 who says you need a smallest possible number 06:48:11 this adrian kid. 06:48:45 * Sgeo hides the 0 from Bike 06:49:01 smallest nonnegative number 06:49:11 * Sgeo keeps hiding the 0 from Bike 06:49:48 wow i'm not getting involved in a 0.9 argument 06:49:52 even a fake one 06:50:14 shachaf: don't you dare try to tell me that 0.999 repeating is equal to 0.9 06:50:21 the smallest nonnegative number is 0 06:50:22 duh 06:50:26 Bike: imo how about this 06:50:34 0.999... doesn't exist because it's an infinite sum 06:50:44 hahaha 06:50:47 and i'm a super duper constructivist, i only believe in things you can do in finite time 06:51:15 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + ... = 0 * inf = ? 06:51:31 i can convince people that .999... exists in finite time. your move 06:51:36 -!- Chillectual has joined. 06:51:39 prove it 06:51:49 also fuck the nonnegative thing you know what i mean argh. 06:51:49 btw i'm the only people in the world 06:52:01 how do youe xplain the eistence of jeorge bush 06:52:05 Bike: "strictly nonnegative" hth 06:52:30 bush is pretty negative in my book 06:52:54 0.999... is syntactic sugar for lim_{n->inf} sum_{i=1}^{n} 9 * 10^-i 06:53:23 You and your real math. Go have an i 06:53:31 i don't believe in lim, sry 06:53:44 wait, or do i believe in lim but just don't believe that that limit is the same as 1 06:54:18 -!- LinearInterpol has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 06:54:42 http://math.andrej.com/2008/08/13/intuitionistic-mathematics-for-physics/comment-page-1/#comment-21652 06:55:41 golly, but you get such weird functions from diffs 06:56:08 -!- tromp_ has joined. 06:57:08 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 06:57:35 i know a guy whose thesis is just on integrating products of besselffunctions. how wack is that 06:58:23 imo why 06:58:28 ffunctions⁈ 06:58:46 ffunction 06:58:54 they're like regular functions but louder 06:59:46 cos it helps understand optics in turbulent media, duh 07:00:00 turbulence is fucked up imo 07:00:36 shachaf: I know the (d/dx)(e^x)=e^x makes sense, but I don't know how to make heads or tales of that comment, whether it's sensible or idiotic 07:00:44 Which comment? 07:00:52 The one you linked to 07:01:05 "Anonymous: You’re right about the derivative of xn and wrong about the derivative of ex. " 07:01:06 The one by Bauer? 07:01:11 It's sensible. 07:01:11 yeah 07:01:12 Oh 07:01:15 `unidecode ꟼ 07:01:21 ​[U+A7FC LATIN EPIGRAPHIC LETTER REVERSED P] 07:03:20 it makes me sad that people have decided that http://adit.io/posts/2013-04-17-functors,_applicatives,_and_monads_in_pictures.html is a good introduction and link to it a lot 07:03:31 I'm sad that the IRTC is dead 07:03:38 But... RUSTY VIDEO I HAVEN"T SEEN BEFORE 07:03:40 i know the author, too. but that introduction makes me sad 07:04:39 why is it bad 07:05:57 -!- Chillectual has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 07:06:22 approximately the usual reasons 07:06:23 http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/graphics/irtc/anims/2007-01-15/rusty032.mpg 07:07:13 bad analogies, subtle mistakes, missing or not explaining the point of an abstraction such that it seems pointless 07:11:14 ftp://ftp.irtc.org/pub/COPYRIGHT 07:11:21 So much for putting IRTC videos on YouTube 07:11:34 5. Entrant grants the right of private recreational or non-commercial 07:11:34 use to the general public, EXCEPTING THE RESTRICTIONS (5.1) AND (5.2) below. 07:11:34 5.1. Distribution is not allowed on any storage media that are 07:11:34 accessible over the Internet or similar Wide Area Networks. This prohibits 07:11:34 the use of these files on FTP, WWW or gopher sites, among others. 07:12:16 Well, technically YouTube would only be publically serving a derived work of the original files... which I guess counts? 07:18:58 http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/graphics/irtc/anims/ 07:19:02 Such... low-quality 07:19:06 Someone should rerender some of them 07:19:16 who are you talking to 07:19:47 #esoteric 07:20:52 ok 07:25:56 man, squarepusher is fun. 07:27:39 http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/graphics/irtc/stills/accepted/twstcube.jpg 07:28:00 that is not squarepusher 07:28:07 do you know squarepusher (geddit) 07:28:15 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 07:28:44 `unidecode ï̈ 07:28:45 ​[U+00EF LATIN SMALL LETTER I WITH DIAERESIS] [U+0308 COMBINING DIAERESIS] 07:28:55 http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/graphics/irtc/stills/accepted/dragon.jpg 07:28:56 metal 07:29:03 I have no idea how that's a dragon 07:29:20 think spine. think inside of liver. 07:29:22 it's fuckin pretty though 07:30:35 "The adventurer was weary; for more time than he cared to think he had been digging through the hinterlands of calculus, trying to resurrect long-lost skills. Suddenly, while leaning inward to examine a convoluted function, he finds himself staring into the eyes of a dragon. It's that diabolical worm, Complexity!" 07:30:40 http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/graphics/irtc/stills/accepted/dragon.txt 07:31:07 "(POV-Ray seems like an excellent tool for visualization in an engineering context!)" 07:31:25 Ray-tracing might be overkill for engineering? Certainly a modeling language like that might be nice I guess 07:33:33 http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/graphics/irtc/stills/accepted/1004cplx.jpg 07:39:54 I should look to see what other renderers besides LuxRender have galleries 07:45:13 -!- ThatOtherPerson has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 07:48:23 http://iml.univ-mrs.fr/~girard/0.pdf 07:56:14 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 07:57:25 -!- tromp_ has joined. 07:59:24 -!- LinearInterpol has joined. 08:01:44 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 08:03:01 If Cont is the mother of all monads, is there a name for the monads that ListT State s (or is it StateT [s]?) is the mother of? 08:03:55 It's Codensity, not Cont. 08:04:31 "mother" is not a precise relationship between monads. 08:26:39 -!- yiyus has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 08:28:27 -!- ThatOtherPerson has joined. 08:33:00 -!- yiyus has joined. 08:45:25 Britain. http://metro.co.uk/2013/12/14/artificial-leg-prompts-paedophile-panic-at-swimming-pool-and-evacuation-of-children-4230694/ 08:50:07 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 08:51:05 -!- ThatOtherPerson has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 08:58:19 -!- tromp_ has joined. 09:02:47 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 09:04:58 -!- ThatOtherPerson has joined. 09:09:13 -!- LinearInterpol has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:09:38 -!- LinearInterpol has joined. 09:50:57 -!- LinearInterpol has changed nick to ThisWasABadIdea. 09:51:12 -!- ThisWasABadIdea has changed nick to LetUsNotForget. 09:51:20 -!- LetUsNotForget has changed nick to WhoWeAre. 09:51:28 -!- WhoWeAre has changed nick to AndWhereWeCameFr. 09:51:34 -!- AndWhereWeCameFr has changed nick to LinearInterpol. 09:52:11 -!- MindlessDrone has joined. 10:00:41 -!- tromp_ has joined. 10:05:07 -!- lifthrasiir has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 10:06:09 -!- lifthrasiir has joined. 10:06:39 -!- nisstyre has quit (Quit: Leaving). 10:18:03 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 10:26:23 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 10:53:45 darn it, I wanted to ask ais something before he went to bed 10:55:40 -!- oerjan has joined. 10:57:40 AnotherTest: do you pass the turing test? 10:58:07 -!- ThatOtherPerson has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 10:58:42 * oerjan senses from the logs that Bike may not live in quite the same reality as the rest of us. and that his reality has an alternate Sgeo. 10:59:54 idea: a bot that passes the turing test by complaining loudly about the insult of putting it to the test. 11:05:02 haha 11:05:17 so basically a rob ford bot 11:19:15 -!- Sorella has joined. 11:19:57 -!- Sorella has quit (Changing host). 11:19:57 -!- Sorella has joined. 12:08:01 There are no numbers above 7? 12:08:49 that's stronger than "all odd numbers (other than 1) are prime" 12:09:46 (Well, the two statements are logically equivalent. At least it's not weaker.) 12:13:15 `factor -3 12:13:20 factor: invalid option -- '3' \ Try `factor --help' for more information. 12:13:26 weak. 12:13:48 `factor 1729 12:13:50 1729: 7 13 19 12:15:01 `factor -- -3 12:15:03 factor: unrecognized option '-- -3' \ Try `factor --help' for more information. 12:15:17 `run factor -- -3 12:15:18 factor: ‘-3’ is not a valid positive integer 12:15:19 factor: `-3' is not a valid positive integer 12:15:34 `factor --version 12:15:36 factor (GNU coreutils) 8.5 \ Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc. \ License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later . \ This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. \ There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. \ \ Written by Paul Rubin. 12:15:48 discriminating against the negatives again 12:16:48 How dou you count strongness? 12:16:50 *do 12:17:17 There are no numbers > There are no numbers above 7? 12:17:25 -!- yorick has joined. 12:18:40 theoretically, there can only be one conjecture stronger than that. since otherwise there would be more than 7. 12:19:04 qed 12:19:06 mroman: I would say that a statement A is stronger than B if A "obviously" implies B. Logically, "obviously" cannot be defined, so in the end the implication is all that's left. 12:20:47 I see. 12:24:05 Ah, we could explain the implication more explicitely using models. A is stronger than B (in a theory T) if every model of A (and T) is also a model of B. 12:24:10 -!- ter2 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 12:24:24 I don't know about models 12:24:32 but it sounds like if B is a subset of A 12:24:55 then A is stronger 12:24:58 or actually... 12:25:01 "smaller" 12:25:36 which sounds the same as your implication explanation 12:25:46 A model specifies how operations used in formulas work. A model of the natural numbers would be a set of numbers together with successor, addition and multiplication. 12:26:11 and what distinguishes them from a group 12:26:13 or ring? 12:26:49 oh 12:26:55 The notion of models is more general. A group is a model of the group axioms. A field is a model of the field axioms. 12:26:59 the model actually defines what a successor is? 12:28:30 yes, it does 12:29:39 `factor 170141183460469231731687303715884105727 12:29:40 factor: `170141183460469231731687303715884105727' is too large 12:30:04 `factor 9223372036854775808 12:30:05 9223372036854775808: 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 12:30:10 HackEgo: USE THE QUANTUM 12:30:42 > 2^100 12:30:43 1267650600228229401496703205376 12:30:48 > 2^150 12:30:49 1427247692705959881058285969449495136382746624 12:30:58 `factor 1427247692705959881058285969449495136382746624 12:31:00 factor: `1427247692705959881058285969449495136382746624' is too large 12:31:09 HackEgo: YOU'RE NOT EVEN TRYING 12:31:17 `factor 18446744073709551615 12:31:19 18446744073709551615: 3 5 17 257 641 65537 6700417 12:31:21 `factor 18446744073709551616 12:31:22 factor: `18446744073709551616' is too large 12:31:26 > 2^64 12:31:27 18446744073709551616 12:32:01 `eval factorize 18446744073709551617 12:32:02 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: eval: not found 12:32:19 W|A can factor 1427247692705959881058285969449495136382746624 just fine. 12:32:49 so can gp/pari 12:33:07 But does it have a "step-by-step solution" button? 12:33:15 (Though I'd need to sign in for that to actually do anything.) 12:33:22 > mod 18446744073709551617 7 12:33:23 3 12:33:26 hah. 12:33:48 I mean, that particular case is probably fine ... just 150 trial divisions. 12:34:04 > mod 18446744073709551617 <$> [7,11,13,19,23] 12:34:05 [3,6,4,18,7] 12:34:22 hm not that easy 12:34:42 It doesn't give a step-by-step solution button for the prime 170141183460469231731687303715884105727 -- at least in the same box. 12:34:47 > 1427247692705959881058285969449495136382746625 == 5^3*13*41*61*101*1201*1321*8101*63901*268401*13334701*1182468601 12:34:48 False 12:34:58 (There's a step-by-step solution button in the "divisors" box, though.) 12:35:35 For the prime factorization of 1427247692705959881058285969449495136382746625 there is the button. I'm tempted, but not tempted enough to make an account. 12:35:55 > mod 18446744073709551617 <$> [29,31,37,41,43,47,53,59] 12:35:56 [25,17,13,17,42,26,16,6] 12:36:24 > 1427247692705959881058285969449495136382746625 == product [5,5,5,13,41,61,101,1201,1321,8101,63901,268501,13334701,1182468601] 12:36:25 True 12:36:41 fizzie: so what does a step-by-step solution for that look like? 12:37:24 `factor 18446744073709551617 12:37:25 factor: `18446744073709551617' is too large 12:37:30 oh w|a says the smallest factor is 274177 12:37:30 > mod 18446744073709551617 <$> [274177, 67280421310721] -- oerjan: let's just cut to the chase, eh? 12:37:31 [0,0] 12:37:36 pari says ... 274177*67280421310721. right. 12:37:47 int-e: I don't know; that's why I was tempted. 12:38:22 * int-e should do some shopping before the shops close, bbl. 12:38:52 `factor 1182468601 12:38:53 1182468601: 1182468601 12:39:09 in fact, how does a step by step solution for this (a primality test) look like? :-) 12:39:24 no wonder fermat was confused about these numbers. 12:39:32 It doesn't give a step-by-step solution button for (large) primes. 12:39:54 Or for that 18446744073709551617 either. 12:40:05 (One would have to look at primality certificates. Maybe some of those are verifiable by humans.) 12:41:52 oh right fermat numbers must have factors of a particular form 12:42:14 `factor 274176 12:42:15 274176: 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 7 17 12:45:14 yes, i get that from hegel as well, fungot, why don't you talk about spinoza or something instead <-- yeah everyone else is just a spin-off 12:45:15 oerjan: this bug seems to have been removed from cvs already. ( i don't know 13:04:17 -!- tertu has joined. 13:06:57 -!- LinearInterpol has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 13:10:21 -!- MindlessDrone has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 13:43:15 It's a good thing that fungot is self-sentinent so that it knows about bugs in its source-code that have been fixed 13:43:15 FireFly: unix using ascii. do you get? 13:43:39 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 13:49:00 `pastlog oVXmWnfARC4 13:49:32 No output. 13:49:36 `pastlog oVXmWnfARC4 13:50:08 No output. 13:50:23 i guess no one's linked http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVXmWnfARC4 here before 13:50:36 (youtube suggested it to me >_>) 14:00:20 I have just thought of something ridiculous 14:01:01 But very interesting 14:01:06 And probably already done 14:02:40 @pinky Are you thinking what Taneb is thinking? 14:02:40 Uh, I think so Brain, but this time, you wear the tutu. 14:04:26 -!- boily has joined. 14:04:44 -!- metasepia has joined. 14:05:59 ~metar ENVA 14:06:00 ENVA 311350Z 28004KT 9999 VCSH FEW034 OVC048 06/01 Q0997 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 26011KT 14:10:31 `ello metasepia 14:10:34 metasepello 14:10:47 huh 14:10:50 neat. 14:10:58 also, good cryogenic morning! 14:11:02 ~metar CYQB 14:11:03 CYQB 311400Z 27002KT 30SM BKN085 BKN110 M22/M28 A3015 RMK AC5AC2 SLP218 14:12:07 -!- tertu has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 14:12:22 -!- nooodl has joined. 14:12:31 -!- tertu has joined. 14:15:39 -!- ter2 has joined. 14:19:09 -!- tertu has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 14:20:41 -!- ter2 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 14:20:53 -!- ter2 has joined. 14:37:44 -!- ter2 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 14:38:07 -!- tertu has joined. 14:38:19 -!- LinearInterpol has joined. 14:43:35 -!- ter2 has joined. 14:46:12 -!- ter2 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 14:46:59 -!- tertu has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 14:48:06 -!- tertu has joined. 14:52:48 hellinelloarintellorpellol. 14:53:02 -!- ter2 has joined. 14:55:46 -!- tertu3 has joined. 14:57:15 -!- tertu has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 14:58:33 -!- ThatOtherPerson has joined. 15:00:04 -!- ter2 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 15:07:23 -!- itsy has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 15:07:26 ~metar ESSA 15:07:27 ESSA 311450Z 19013KT 9999 FEW020 SCT040 04/01 Q1012 R01L/29//95 R08/29//95 R01R/29//95 NOSIG 15:09:19 -!- MindlessDrone has joined. 15:17:57 happy new year at UTC+08:42:03! 15:20:24 lifthrasiir: wait is that an actual timezone 15:20:43 dunno 15:22:05 @localtime lifthrasiir 15:22:07 Local time for lifthrasiir is Wed Jan 1 00:22:06 2014 15:22:36 새해 복 많이 받으세요! 15:23:10 thank you! 15:24:22 (that reminds me I need to set-up korean in my terminal. the default font choice is... creative. not quite zalgo-esque, but it has some eldritch tendencies.) 15:26:12 maybe it's north korean, that would do it right 15:41:28 -!- MindlessDrone has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 15:43:40 -!- MindlessDrone has joined. 15:47:26 -!- pointpen has joined. 15:53:12 -!- carado has joined. 15:57:19 -!- olsner has joined. 16:01:43 -!- pointpen has quit (K-Lined). 16:09:02 -!- Sorella` has joined. 16:09:42 happy old year, boily! 16:10:10 joyeuse vieille année, quintopia! 16:10:58 what are you going to do with all this time? 16:12:26 today? work, then a few jousts of towerfall, then yearend TV specials. probably going to involve a few cups of wine here and there. 16:12:30 -!- pikhq_ has joined. 16:12:33 (and an ounce or two of scotch :D) 16:13:17 oh, is canada already in the future? 16:13:44 -!- AwfulProgrammer_ has joined. 16:14:31 hmm, are you ahead or behind in time? should be behind, if japan is ahead 16:14:32 olsner: you're more futury than me. it's still a quarter past 11am here. 16:14:52 * olsner of the future says hi 16:15:17 quarter past five here 16:15:20 What's 2014 like? 16:15:50 impomatic: you'll have to ask lifthrasiir. he's the most Futurian of us all. I think. 16:16:11 * impomatic plans to complete OMEGA by Origin in 2014 :-) 16:16:22 `? zimbabwe 16:16:24 olsner's desk points zimbabwards. it is highly dependent on tswett's michiganic orientation. 16:16:33 fwiw, 2014 has the same number of factors as 2013, and their average is the same 16:16:37 boily, it's like... Wednesday. 16:17:04 lifthrasiir: what color is wednesday? 16:17:08 impomatic: apparently, 2014 is made of factors and wednesdays. 16:18:03 olsner, kind error 16:18:41 "I have a file named a┤rv.txt on Windows, I'd like to know if this file exists." 16:18:46 these stackoverflow questions are getting philosophical 16:19:00 I'm not quite sure what color kind error is, but it could be a great color to start a year 16:19:15 -!- monotone_ has joined. 16:20:09 the new Kind Error Collection from Holt Renfrew. 16:21:07 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 16:22:57 `run factor 2013; factor 2014 16:22:59 2013: 3 11 61 \ 2014: 2 19 53 16:23:06 -!- Sorella has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 16:23:30 -!- coppro_ has joined. 16:23:39 oops, actually, 2013 has 0.3 higher average factor 16:23:47 shocking 16:23:47 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 16:23:47 -!- AwfulProgrammer has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 16:23:56 or 1/3, to be more exact 16:24:00 -!- monotone has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:24:00 -!- myndzi has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 16:24:03 -!- coppro has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 16:24:04 -!- AwfulProgrammer_ has changed nick to AwfulProgrammer. 16:24:15 -!- myndzi has joined. 16:24:58 ~eval let avg xs = fromIntegral (sum xs) / fromIntegral (length xs) in (avg . primeFactors $ 2013) - (avg . primeFactors $ 2014) 16:25:07 0.33333333333333215 16:25:31 ooh 16:26:04 ~eval let avg xs = fromIntegral (sum xs) % fromIntegral (length xs) in (avg . primeFactors $ 2013) - (avg . primeFactors $ 2014) 16:26:05 1 % 3 16:26:44 > findIndex id $ zipWith(==)`ap`tail $ avg . primeFactors <$> [1..] 16:26:45 Not in scope: `avg'Not in scope: `primeFactors' 16:26:56 oops 16:26:58 neener neener :D 16:27:10 -!- monotone_ has changed nick to monotone. 16:27:27 ~eval let avg xs = fromIntegral (sum xs) / fromIntegral (length xs) in findIndex id $ zipWith(==)`ap`tail $ avg . primeFactors <$> [1..] 16:27:28 Just 734 16:27:39 `run factor 2013.5 16:27:41 factor: `2013.5' is not a valid positive integer 16:28:03 `run factor 20135 16:28:04 20135: 5 4027 16:28:19 `run factor 733; factor 734; factor 735 16:28:21 733: 733 \ 734: 2 367 \ 735: 3 5 7 7 16:28:26 .5 and 4027 or 5 and 402.7 then 16:29:16 `run factor 736 16:29:18 736: 2 2 2 2 2 23 16:29:40 ~eval let avg xs = fromIntegral (sum xs) / fromIntegral (length xs) in avg . primeFactors <$> [732..] 16:29:41 [17.0,733.0,184.5,5.5,5.5,39.0,12.25,739.0,11.5,11.666666666666666,20.666666666666668,743.0,8.0,77.0,187.5,29.666666666666668,8.0,57.0,4.0,751.0,11.0,127.0,14.666666666666666,78.0,3.3333333333333335,757.0,190.5,12.333333333333334,6.0,761.0,44.0,58.0,65.0,7.0,192.5,36.0,2.111111111111111,769.0,6.25,130.0,65.66666666666667,773.0,12.75,13.666666666666666,25.75,15.666666666666666,195.5,30.0,5.0,41.0,14.0,9.5,3.6666666666666665,81.0,45.333333333333336,787. 16:30:11 oh the off by one is in the other direction 16:31:02 [1..] !! 734 is 735, and the tail has the next entry on the same index 16:31:59 `run echo "An off by two error is what happens when you expect an off by one error but compensate in the wrong direction" >wisdom/'off by two error' 16:32:03 No output. 16:32:54 or off by one point five error. (like OpenGL pixel-perfect rendering, for example) 16:33:10 `run mv wisdom/off\ by\ two\ error wisdom/off\ by\ two 16:33:14 No output. 16:33:45 boily: bfjoust is better than towerfall 16:33:54 what's a radar retro-reflector? 16:34:39 I assume something that reflects typical radar signals well towards their source. 16:34:53 isn't that just a reflector? 16:34:53 Based on what the retro-reflectors they've put on the moon are like. 16:34:54 something that bounces a radar signal directly back at the transmitter 16:35:03 -!- ThatOtherPerson has quit (Quit: Leaving). 16:35:08 no matter what angle the incoming signal is coming from 16:35:15 ah, towards the source 16:35:16 yes 16:36:41 * oerjan wonders if those are good defenses against laser weapons 16:36:49 lifthrasiir: oh, that's where it comes from? I guess that's why does that too 16:37:18 well visible light ones 16:38:01 -!- boily has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 16:38:03 -!- metasepia has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 16:38:22 -!- metasepia has joined. 16:38:24 -!- boily has joined. 16:38:35 hm i suppose they would have the disadvantage of being extremely easy to search for 16:39:20 quintopia: I can punch my bro when playing Towerfall. 16:39:32 FireFly, google for "diamond exit rule", I think. (and AFAIK it does not affect the rendering of triangle primitives) 16:39:37 which would be an argumet against putting them on armor 16:39:42 *+n 16:40:06 maybe you could enable and disable the retroreflectiveness, and only enable them when being hit by a bright enough laser beam 16:40:18 -!- Jafet has joined. 16:40:37 oerjan: Sounds like it might be a tradeoff between the reflection coefficient you can achieve (presumably higher for a simple reflective surface) and the possibly desirable feature of doing something to the source. 16:40:38 well that would require an active device 16:40:53 oerjan: You could just coat a reflective surface with something that burns away easily when hit by a laser. 16:40:56 oerjan: That's pretty passive. 16:41:14 (But still black until shot at.) 16:41:15 fizzie: huh 16:41:41 (Disclaimer: IANAWD.) 16:42:09 I am not a wizard dog? 16:42:13 fizzie: you are not a weapon of destruction? 16:42:18 Weapon designer. 16:42:26 ... 16:42:28 wizard dog. 16:42:37 I'm with LinearInterpol here. 16:42:38 I have to admit I'm not a wizard dog either. 16:42:46 we know you are. 16:42:50 (Incidentally, "energy weapon" sounds pretty silly, since it's so vague.) 16:42:55 airborne wizard dog 16:44:00 google translate is of no help here. we could have had “Fizzie, King of Airborne Wizard Dogs” in Finnish. 16:44:20 something something koira hth 16:45:15 except probably some other case 16:46:26 Apparently Google Translate translates en:wizard to sv:guide, presumably because of setup wizard thingys 16:46:57 boily: Fizzie, kuningas ilmassa ohjatun koiria hth 16:47:02 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 16:47:11 (_not_ capitalizing everything helped.) 16:47:59 `? fizzie 16:48:02 fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the king of #esoteric, see http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/src/fizziecoin.jpg 16:48:20 how do you pronounce “hth” in Finnish? 16:48:30 boily: painfully 16:48:44 that makes my mouth hurt just reading that. 16:49:00 oerjan: the PDF is updated ♪ 16:49:46 -!- conehead has joined. 16:50:27 boily: wait with what. oh right. 16:51:50 LinearInterpol: apparently, it's easier in Finnish: en:hth → fi:tea. 16:51:52 -!- hogeyui__ has joined. 16:52:03 ...huh. 16:52:49 and then, you have fr:eça. 16:52:50 "Lentävien velhokoirien kuningas" (lit. "[flying] [of wizard dogs] [king]") would be more natural Finnish, if you want the fantasy kind of wizard. 16:53:41 and norwegian ruins all with hdh, hth 16:54:01 no:“hope dhat helps”? 16:54:21 CLOSE 16:54:46 (håper det hjelper) 16:56:18 -!- hogeyui_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 16:56:59 I'd invest in fizziecoins 16:57:49 oerjan: http://www.cederroth.com/temp/2130047399.png hth 16:58:27 * boily is rainbowly frightened 16:58:45 im scared of colors. 17:01:00 -!- lifthrasiir has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 17:01:35 hth is hdh in swedish too hth 17:01:53 (hoppas det hjlper) 17:02:20 I KNEW IT *MWAHAHAHAHA* 17:02:25 and hth in english is hdh (helps dry hands) 17:02:43 aide à sécher les mains. 17:03:01 boily: i think that's backwards 17:03:06 boily: that's not english 17:03:09 this is dry the adjective 17:03:51 aide à les mains séches maybe? 17:04:05 aide les mains sèches. 17:04:14 (aider is transitive.) 17:04:54 ô kaille 17:05:13 I'll have to remember that one. «ô kaille». he he he :D 17:05:32 fizzie: are you flying or are the wizard dogs flying? 17:06:16 TTOA ("toivottavasti tästä oli apua") might be a Finnish hth hth 17:08:02 "Swanbeck upptäckte i mitten av 1960-talet att torr hud har brist på fuktgivande ämnen." shocking 17:08:36 indeed, amazing discovery 17:09:38 sounds ominous... 17:10:23 like we say here, «plus qu'il neige, plus qu'il y a de la neige.» 17:10:44 In other news: taking a shower gets you wet because of an abundance of water? 17:11:49 clearly publishable paper there 17:12:27 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 17:12:55 fizzie: actually it's the wetness of the water that does it 17:13:29 -!- Sorella` has changed nick to Sorella. 17:13:29 -!- Sorella has quit (Changing host). 17:13:30 -!- Sorella has joined. 17:14:08 gt seems to have this strange idea il y a should have an accent 17:15:10 who're gt and ilya? 17:15:33 gt = google translate. ilya is some russian. 17:15:41 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Client Quit). 17:16:02 oerjan: gt is wrong. WRONG! 17:16:24 gt can also mean: gin and tonic 17:16:26 boily: other google sources made me suspect as much. 17:16:50 around trondheim, mostly ilya dubkov. 17:19:39 Gran Turismo. 17:19:57 «il y a», literally “he have at this place” 17:21:30 * oerjan actually knows what il y a means, being among the few things not forgotten from his school french 17:22:28 is y = here? that part of school french failed to stick, apparently 17:22:41 il and a I can recognize as he and have 17:23:42 -!- lifthrasiir has joined. 17:24:05 `localtime lifthrasiir 17:24:06 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: localtime: not found 17:24:11 @localtime lifthrasiir 17:24:13 Local time for lifthrasiir is Wed Jan 1 02:24:12 2014 17:26:10 oerjan: «y» is the accusative of «ici». 17:26:38 I see 17:27:19 it has also a bunch of derivative meanings all related to “here”, “now”, “oneself”. 17:27:29 not quite sure why that word would have cases though 17:27:54 along with pronouns, those are the last vestigial remnants of cases in French. 17:29:26 e.g. german where cases are much alive, doesn't have cases for 'hier' afaik 17:35:09 @tell Koen_ it's been a long time since I disturbed you with Québécois. 17:35:09 Consider it noted. 17:39:41 what color should i paint my fingernails for the new year? 17:39:53 hot pink 17:40:07 mandelbrot pattern 17:40:13 julia set. 17:40:23 douglass_: what colour should kmc be? 17:40:45 -!- Zuu has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 17:40:54 kmc: I say, Cantor Dust. 17:40:54 douglass_ seems blissfully idle 17:41:14 fungot: what colour should i paint my fingernails for the new year? 17:41:15 kmc: it certainly shouldn't take that long. :p the cost is only 2.5e (!) directfb/ core/ pul/ collection.plof this has a cutoff constant in it somewhere. it a house consisting from 6 houses 17:41:29 i'm gonna keep asking fungot until i get an answer 17:41:29 kmc: probably the only one he used. right? right? ( fnord! 17:41:50 -!- Zuu has joined. 17:42:06 kmc: fungot probably is going to recommend some Deep Iridescent Fnord. 17:42:06 boily: 90% of my market would be windows and i develop software for all of them 17:42:31 kmc: you should paint them kind error 17:43:01 fungot: or do you have a better idea?+ 17:43:01 olsner: why do you care? nobody will make you fnord if you want, implementing conses ( including set-car!/set-cdr!) in your saliva, then the doc said " oh, i see 17:43:45 hi 17:43:56 fungot: I'm finding out that you can't mess around with saliva! 17:43:56 kmc: you actually wrote these, and i refuse to take anything on faith, riastradh. from now on. 17:43:57 umm, I don't know 17:43:59 fungot: no. I don't want to make fnord in my saliva, and yes I care. 17:43:59 boily: it's always nice to eat or something 17:44:10 Cantor Dust isn't a color 17:44:30 fungot: I'm hungry. 17:44:30 boily: what is ihope? this x thing, so you can't go any further with clisms. 17:48:35 The structural color of the fruit of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollia_condensata 17:49:44 I refuse to believe a fruit made of tinfoil and electric blue sparkly plastic resin exists in nature. 17:49:59 -!- MindlessDrone has quit (Quit: MindlessDrone). 17:50:26 where did you think tinfoil came from? 17:50:52 it's true, everyone knows tinfoil doesn't come from tin 17:51:03 olsner: from tinfoil mines in the Great North. 17:51:26 tin- is just thin without the h 17:53:28 boily: it's just one of the many proofs that we are living in a simulation hth 17:54:10 * boily dons his maple-tinfoil hat 17:55:34 douglass_: _real_ tinfoil comes from tin. it's also the only kind that protects against mind control rays, which explains why you cannot get it any more. hth..hth 17:55:38 oops 17:55:47 * oerjan misunderstands the script 17:56:40 perhaps it will work better if i include some spaces, twh. 17:57:03 which script? 17:57:19 olsner: Oerjan's Shackles. 17:57:25 the script that prevents me from saying 17:58:01 I see, htwh 17:58:14 yw 17:59:27 the Kleen Star of All Help Combinations 17:59:58 s/n\b/ne/ 18:00:34 `run echo 'test' | sed -e 'st\ttTt' 18:00:36 Test 18:01:54 very sane command. 18:02:58 ☺ 18:03:27 douglass_: wow those are pretty 18:11:47 happy australian mailman list reminder day! 18:22:58 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com). 18:29:41 fungot: have you made any new year resolutions? 18:29:41 FireFly: never mind. found it. i quite like that, heh? 18:30:07 FireFly: have you? 18:30:15 nope 18:30:19 me neither 18:30:21 maybe I should? 18:30:39 well, you're not gonna keep it anyway, are you? 18:30:45 apparently fungot found their resolution 18:30:45 FireFly: syntax-case enables the impossible. merely that it is 18:31:01 Probably not. 18:31:06 as the old joke go, my new year resolution is going to be 1920 × 1080. 18:31:21 Seems a bit low for 2014 18:31:26 mine might be 3800x1800, now that there are laptops with that resolution 18:31:30 (other than that, get back to learning Japanese. but I won't say it's a resolution, as that would needlessly jinx it.) 18:31:34 possibly ultra-hd, or just full-hd 18:32:59 huh. I can go as low as 640 × 480 on this machine. 18:33:15 actually full-hd would be an upgrade for this laptop ... the current resolution is almost ridiculously low 18:33:35 the 5" phone has higher resolution than the 12.5" laptop :( 18:35:10 解像度は変更できません (;_;) 18:39:09 well, great, it's time to get rid of home-grown hgweb server due to frequent server overload. 18:39:40 monotone: どのデバイスは解像度が変更できませんか? 18:42:05 boily: ただのつまらない冗談です。すみません 18:43:28 monotone: しょうがないなぁ… 18:45:25 as the old saying goes, one time a train hit a zebra so hard that a person came out 18:45:30 monotone: それでも、お元気ですか?あなたに生きている場所に寒いですか? 18:45:56 kmc: humans are a crossbreed between zebras and trains? 18:46:16 believe so 18:46:35 regarding resolutions: when will we see the first 1080p smart watch? 18:46:38 that'd explain a lot of things... 18:46:51 ~metar LOII 18:46:52 --- Station not found! 18:46:54 ~metar LLII 18:46:55 --- Station not found! 18:46:58 (I honestly don't see the point of display resolutions above 150dpi or so) 18:46:59 ah bordel. 18:47:25 ~metar LOWI 18:47:26 LOWI 311820Z 25003KT CAVOK M04/M07 Q1019 R08/19//70 NOSIG 18:48:15 boily: まあ あったかいでもないですけど 18:48:22 chilly. 18:49:29 ~metar EDBM 18:49:30 --- Station not found! 18:50:11 boring. 18:50:35 ~metar EDDP 18:50:36 EDDP 311820Z 15008KT CAVOK 01/M00 Q1017 NOSIG 18:50:37 ~metar KORF 18:50:38 KORF 311751Z 26007G14KT 230V290 10SM CLR 09/M02 A3017 RMK AO2 SLP217 T00891017 10094 20033 58016 18:50:48 monotone: ここは極低温度だよ 18:50:57 ~metar CYUL 18:50:57 CYUL 311800Z 04006KT 8SM -SN OVC033 M16/M19 A3006 RMK SC8 SLP181 18:51:28 ~metar CYQB 18:51:29 CYQB 311800Z 24007KT 3SM -SN OVC028 M19/M24 A3008 RMK SN5SC3 SLP196 18:51:37 yé... minus nineteen... 18:51:49 hardly cryogenic 18:52:02 ~metar HKJK 18:52:03 HKJK 311700Z 04010KT 9999 BKN023 22/14 Q1019 NOSIG 18:52:19 here it's like +3 or something, it's silly 18:52:37 olsner: my feet beg to differ. 18:53:25 if they're still begging they haven't been cryogenerated yet 18:53:48 cryogeneration hasn't begun yet. I still have two of them. 18:54:00 and 10 toes? 18:54:30 try going inside, it may be warmer 18:54:50 int-e: the regular SI toe configuration, I still have it. 18:54:59 olsner: I am inside. I'm stupidly barefoot. 18:55:06 boily: 厚い靴下をはいた方がいいと思います (*‿*) 18:55:09 that's stupid boily 18:56:36 I was going to suggest making use of that great invention called boots ... but now it's redundant. 18:57:53 monotone has the comfiest solution. 18:58:41 does it involve socks? or a warm bath? 18:58:50 monotone: やれやれ 18:58:52 hmm. "hot bath" sounds better. 19:03:43 monotone: 靴下をはいている 僕の足はいま暖かいです (^ε^) 19:04:44 boily: よかったですね 19:05:16 monotone: as the local proverb goes, «よかった en maudit». 19:14:44 -!- FreeFull_ has joined. 19:15:29 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 19:18:58 olsner: silly indeed 19:20:59 -!- Jafet has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 19:21:23 -!- Jafet has joined. 19:23:01 spaceteam! 19:23:54 boily: what languages do you know????????? 19:24:33 they're just writing french in hanzi 19:24:40 -!- FreeFull has joined. 19:24:44 oh lame 19:25:02 Bike: shun! 19:25:20 boily: spaceteam! 19:25:29 quintopia: spaceteam? 19:25:52 spaceteam!? 19:26:01 Bike: and kana 19:26:09 boily: you should play it. with your friends. asap. 19:26:24 quintopia: does it run on Linux and/or the Ouya? 19:26:37 quintopia: or, better, is it made of cardboard and acrylic? 19:26:41 -!- FreeFull_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 19:26:53 boily: android or ios 19:27:04 quintopia: I accept. 19:27:05 the iphone version is slightly more stable 19:27:11 -!- coppro_ has changed nick to coppro. 19:27:19 pfshaw. stability is for wimps. 19:28:08 oh, spaceteam. I didn't know it was called so. 19:29:00 kana is just wannabe hanzi. 19:29:17 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 19:29:38 boily: you have played or seen played? 19:31:23 * olsner gr och lagar lite mat 19:31:26 -!- olsner has quit (Quit: Leaving). 19:32:06 * boily は楓棒でBikeに当たる *ボン*! 19:32:15 quintopia: seen. 19:44:09 -!- FreeFull has joined. 20:17:16 apparently, by default, OpenERP stores user passwords without any encryption whatsoever. 20:17:31 * boily has nausea 20:18:33 boily: erp. 20:18:59 oerjan: indeed. 20:20:49 aw poor boily 20:20:55 * quintopia gives boily a moonshine 20:21:06 we don't need to worry about hyperintelligent ais. our computer systems are so broken it only takes a normal ai to take them over. 20:22:37 hyperintelligent ais523? 20:22:45 wait now. maybe the government is keeping our computers broken _on purpose_ just so we'll have an early warning about hostile ais before they become hyperintelligent. 20:23:07 it all makes sense now! 20:23:29 `? ais523 20:23:31 Agent “Iä” Smith is an alien with a strange allergy to avian body covering, which he is trying to retroactively prevent from ever evolving. On the 3rd of March, he's lawful good. 20:23:50 alien, not ai. hth. 20:25:54 meanwhile, march 3 is when the main girl genius story line will resume. coincidence? also checking this made me discover the fill-in story updated on a tuesday! 20:27:48 * boily gulps quintopia's 'shine 20:28:02 oerjan: girl genius is still ongoing? 20:28:05 SHINE SHINE LIKE A STAR 20:28:31 boily: how do you feel? 20:28:52 quintopia: shined. 20:29:05 boily: um you mean in general, or over the just started hiatus? 20:29:18 oerjan: the general allure of it all. 20:29:51 boily: most definitely. you don't just end a story that wins hugos in 3 consecutive years... 20:30:42 i don't expect it to end until we get an explanation for the time travel segments seen previously, and there isn't currently any sign of that happening yet... 20:31:59 happy new year 20:32:07 to everyone who lives >3+ GMT 20:32:10 also the whole gil/father mixup needs to be resolved 20:32:23 oerjan: time travel??? I think I'll have to get back on track eventually... 20:32:37 @localtime mroman 20:32:38 Local time for mroman is Tue Dec 31 21:32:37 2013 20:32:41 int-e: not to mention agatha/mother... 20:33:05 boily: those were a _long_ time ago, mind you. 20:33:08 @localtime boily 20:33:09 Local time for boily is Tue, 31 Dec 2013 15:33:08 -0500 20:33:27 oerjan: I dropped it a long time ago too. 20:33:32 back when they had the first events on board castle wulfenbach 20:34:34 time travel? the time freeze was bad enough, hmm. maybe I have to reread the thing from the beginning. 20:35:56 int-e: incidentally, the time travel segment implies that certain characters who are currently in trouble should get out of it. 20:36:36 yay. "You have been selected as a winner for using Google services." 20:36:52 EVERYONE WINS! 20:36:56 (except Taneb) 20:37:06 int-e: by time travel, i mean the apparitions dupree told the baron about. 20:37:52 and iirc the baron correctly guessed that time travel was involved 20:38:13 so ... re-reading it is. 20:38:20 heh 20:39:01 -!- FreeFull_ has joined. 20:39:07 by the way, where is Taneb? 20:39:42 Here 20:40:49 Tanelle! 20:41:33 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 20:42:08 https://dpaste.de/uyLZ/raw Whyy 20:42:10 -!- FreeFull_ has changed nick to FreeFull. 20:42:59 FreeFull: you are under attack hth 20:43:41 bohily 20:43:50 FreeFull: oooooooooooooooh :D 20:44:21 I want to know who is doing this and why 20:45:40 funny. one of those is proxyscan.freenode.net 20:45:52 ATTACK 20:45:55 https://dpaste.de/p7bb/raw Part two, same IPs 20:46:15 Maybe you have got yourself a "misconfigured UPS guy" as well. 20:47:47 proxyscan.siglost.com, pridelands.org, v22010127734464199.yourvserver.net, gilman.megworld.co.uk, proxyscan.freenode.net and hitchcock.freenode.net, apparently. 20:48:04 15.2 hours remaining before IOCCC 2013 entries cannot be released in 2013 (anywhere on earth). 20:48:12 Oh, I don't think those are actual attacks then 20:51:13 I should have thought to try reverse dns 20:51:31 I wonder why my router has been disconnecting from the net though. Probably ISP stupidity 20:51:40 right, just port scans. "SPI attack" does not even make sense, I think. (gooduckhoo suggest "Stateful Packet Inspection") 20:52:08 Perhaps it's supposed to vaguely translate to "attack detected by SPI". 20:52:20 As in, unexpected incoming connections. 20:52:59 Though in that case it'd be slightly unclear what "TCP attack" means, then. 20:54:06 "See all those packets I've been dropping to keep you safe?" 20:54:43 Aw, my own "misconfigured UPS guy" has stopped. (Or at least is not active right now.) 20:54:46 The Internet is a dangerous place. 20:56:01 TCP attack could be something like unexpected SYNs 21:01:07 But that's what I was assuming "SPI attack" to be. Since it's vaguely related to connection state. 21:01:15 SNEAK attack (bitch) 21:01:40 "HTH attack" is what happens on #esoteric often. 21:02:31 Followed by a TDNH defense. 21:04:00 8 8888 8 8888888 8888888888 8 8888 8 .8. 8888888 8888888888 8888888 8888888888 .8. ,o888888o. 8 8888 ,88' 21:04:02 8 8888 8 8 8888 8 8888 8 .888. 8 8888 8 8888 .888. 8888 `88. 8 8888 ,88' 21:04:04 8 8888 8 8 8888 8 8888 8 :88888. 8 8888 8 8888 :88888. ,8 8888 `8. 8 8888 ,88' 21:04:06 8 8888 8 8 8888 8 8888 8 . `88888. 8 8888 8 8888 . `88888. 88 8888 8 8888 ,88' 21:04:08 8 8888 8 8 8888 8 8888 8 .8. `88888. 8 8888 8 8888 .8. `88888. 88 8888 8 8888 ,88' 21:04:10 8 8888 8 8 8888 8 8888 8 .8`8. `88888. 8 8888 8 8888 .8`8. `88888. 88 8888 8 8888 88' 21:04:12 8 8888888888888 8 8888 8 8888888888888 .8' `8. `88888. 8 8888 8 8888 .8' `8. `88888. 88 8888 8 888888< 21:04:15 8 8888 8 8 8888 8 8888 8 .8' `8. `88888. 8 8888 8 8888 .8' `8. `88888.`8 8888 .8' 8 8888 `Y8. 21:04:16 8 8888 8 8 8888 8 8888 8 .888888888. `88888. 8 8888 8 8888 .888888888. `88888. 8888 ,88' 8 8888 `Y8. 21:04:18 8 8888 8 8 8888 8 8888 8 .8' `8. `88888. 8 8888 8 8888.8' `8. `88888. `8888888P' 8 8888 `Y8. 21:04:39 boily: c.c 21:04:40 c.c.c 21:04:40 c.c 21:04:49 c.c 21:04:51 c.c 21:04:52 c.c.c 21:04:52 c.c 21:05:11 kmc: hi hi hi ^^ 21:05:12 ▌▌▜▘▌▌ ▄ ▟▖▟▖▄ ▗▖▌ 21:05:12 ▛▌▐ ▛▌ ▄▌▐ ▐ ▄▌▌ ▙▘ 21:05:12 ▘▘▝ ▘▘ ▀▘ ▘ ▘▀▘▝▘▘▘ 21:05:17 i am not sure i approve of ASCII art that doesn't show correctly even when i make putty full screen. 21:05:18 c.c 21:05:42 * kmc is willing to tolerate a bit of ASCII art spam in the Spirit of New Year's, but only a bit 21:05:43 myndzi is not working, in spite of having much shorter nickname than mine 21:06:24 probably it requires the whole block to be to the right of your nick 21:06:34 hence the trigger string is " c.c" 21:06:34 c.c.c 21:06:34 c.c 21:06:36 ka-bam 21:06:42 It sounds like one bit would not be enough for a that much ASCII art. 21:06:55 lifthrasiir: myndzi is a very strange bot. 21:07:11 If it just so happens thatc.cit works also inside words, it can't be " c.c" literally. 21:07:24 Hm, I guess tdnw. 21:08:08 ow. sil. tdnrh. 21:08:50 hth, hand, stfu 21:09:17 kmc: nu. 21:09:18 i am not sure that's a gc.cood test 21:09:21 Talk to the HAND, 'cuz the HTH ain't listening. 21:09:33 How about if it's-|c.c|-like some non-word characters. 21:09:33 c.c.c 21:09:34 c.c 21:09:42 \bc.c\b 21:10:02 or you know \bc\.c\b but that looks less itself like a face 21:10:06 is that a multi-line multi-ocular O? 21:10:09 (Does the mIRC even do \b?) 21:10:14 from now on when people tell me to stfu i will think of http://fluxlab.io/2013/12/06/stfu/ 21:10:23 boily: it's a multi-ocular c.c 21:10:24 c.c.c 21:10:25 c.c 21:10:52 there are some weird mutants roaming in this chännel... 21:11:29 |c.c| 21:11:30 c.c.c 21:11:30 c.c 21:12:09 |c.c| 21:12:10 c.c.c 21:12:10 c.c 21:12:20 hah! mine triggered alignedly! 21:13:42 boily: high-powered mutants never intended for mass production 21:17:17 oh \o/ 21:17:18 | 21:17:18 /| 21:17:51 |c.c|c.c|c.c| 21:18:00 c.c c.c c.c 21:18:01 c.c.c c.c.c c.c.c 21:18:01 c.c c.c c.c 21:18:10 | c.c c.c c.c 21:18:10 c.c.c c.c.c c.c.c 21:18:10 c.c c.c c.c 21:20:43 the bar fucks it up on my end 21:22:24 evil double width unicode character 21:26:30 異端! 21:30:22 -!- nisstyre has joined. 21:32:41 nisstyre: nisstyrello. how are you by this End of Year? 21:39:12 not bad 21:39:24 I got "Compiling with Continuations" in the mail today 21:40:39 now you're thinking with portals 21:41:26 kmc: I was just playing Portal 2 actually 21:43:40 good game. 21:46:57 c.c 21:47:04 disappearing for the night. 21:47:09 Bonne Année à tous! 21:47:14 -!- boily has quit (Quit: YEARLY CHICKEN!). 21:47:17 -!- metasepia has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:47:18 au revoir! 22:01:34 Ooo, the timezone of Finland just a 2014 is. 22:01:41 (It is 2014, right?) 22:02:17 fizzie, yes 22:02:21 You are now in the future 22:02:51 It smells pretty much like the past did. 22:08:30 51.5 minutes to go here, hmm 22:12:31 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 22:16:02 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 22:21:29 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 22:25:16 ~metar LOWI 22:25:42 metagone 22:26:45 -4.3 ... ok. see you next year. 22:30:11 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 23:01:38 ^celebrate 23:01:38 \o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/ 23:01:38 ¦ c.c.c | ¯|¯⌠ `\o/´ | c.c.c | `\o/´ ¯|¯⌠ | c.c.c | 23:01:39 ´¸¨ c.c /| /| | | /´\ c.c /| | /| |/< c.c |\ 23:01:39 (_|¯'¯|_) /´\ 23:01:39 (_| |_) 23:07:32 Happy new year! 23:09:17 @localtime FireFly 23:09:29 Local time for FireFly is Wed, 01 Jan 2014 00:11:51 +0100 23:09:44 Happy new year to you too 23:10:02 \o/ 23:10:02 | 23:10:03 >\ 23:10:35 Happy new year! 23:15:21 fuck all of you from the future 23:18:10 I can't possibly be from the future 23:18:22 How can I be from the future, if I'm dead in the future? 23:19:21 `? future 23:19:23 future? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 23:19:59 `run echo "We know nothing about the future." >wisdom/future 23:20:03 No output. 23:20:53 `? an allosaurus 23:20:54 an allosaurus? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 23:21:23 hm wait it doesn't work that direction. 23:33:36 `? allosaurus 23:33:38 allosaurus? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 23:33:47 `? Vorpal 23:33:49 Vorpal is really boring. Seriously, you have no idea. 23:34:28 `? lystrosaur 23:34:30 The lystrosaurs were an ancient genus of evil reptiles who successfully took over the world in the early Triassic. 23:35:50 Happy new year, too! \o/ \o/ c.c \o_ 23:35:50 | | c.c.c | 23:35:50 |\ /< c.c |\ 23:36:22 happy new year's eve losers 23:39:39 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 23:48:03 ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 23:48:09 mroman, yeah because I almost never talk 23:48:14 These days that is 23:56:12 oh my, ocean in a bottle ... how could I forget? 23:56:35 DON'T DROP IT 23:58:00 too late. 23:59:36 r.i.p. maldives