< 1389226600 176039 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389226644 7283 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.100.12 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1389226907 806896 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1389228626 340037 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PARSE isn't _quite_ monadic yet < 1389228679 540849 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :PARSE? < 1389228756 988843 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389228863 39653 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389228870 610708 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with the word "noetherian" < 1389228882 635237 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.red-lang.org/2013/11/041-introducing-parse.html < 1389229037 859229 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you got a problem with noether < 1389229091 369667 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1389229099 83188 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1389229105 907530 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what's wrong with "terminating" < 1389229138 946740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: um terminating does not indicate _what_ terminates. < 1389229202 799471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you terminate in the other direction you get artinian instead of noetherian hth (btw i don't remember which is which. or for that matter what that chains are made of.) < 1389229227 664601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the < 1389229231 494855 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1389229235 631098 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was talking about rewriting systems < 1389229246 319341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what. < 1389229257 62954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was talking about rings. < 1389229294 54678 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and possibly modules. as i said, i don't remember exactly what terminates. < 1389229299 775394 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Noetherian rewriting system, an abstract rewriting system that has no infinite chains" huh < 1389229335 677198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i have some doubts noether actually investigated those. < 1389229342 529367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then maybe she did. < 1389229358 582015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i guess noetherian means a zillion things < 1389229374 30416 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they mostly have to do with infinite chains, probably. < 1389229382 283514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although not quite as many zillions as eulerian. < 1389229934 811367 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1389229961 186002 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1389230525 24961 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389230553 285929 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, all right, I've got it. < 1389230609 141673 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fundamental unit of computing could essentially be a region of memory tied to some pieces of code manipulating it, right? Call this whole assembly an "object". < 1389230622 715014 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programming could consist simply of combining objects in certain ways. < 1389230655 272932 :{C}!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fundamental unit of computing is the symbol. < 1389230701 501828 :{C}!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :computation is symbols with rules. < 1389230728 611926 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fundamental unit of computation is the string, from which i shall make the ultimate programming language, snobol < 1389230738 392170 :{C}!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: thank you, we needed that. < 1389230755 428987 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It turns out the fundamental unit of computing is actually the troy pound. < 1389230756 748752 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you always do < 1389230768 227905 :{C}!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pffthahaha. < 1389230782 755551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why computing feathers is harder than computing gold. < 1389230809 654827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait should it be lead. < 1389230813 999654 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, now I'm thinking. < 1389230883 959078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it can be gold as well. < 1389230893 299584 :{C}!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can. gold is incredibly dense. < 1389230910 604294 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suppose we have a "beep" object. The object must be invoked exactly once. The object has no memory, takes no input and produces no output. When the object is invoked, the system beeps. < 1389230914 686291 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats {C} -----###
< 1389230914 896779 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the type of the object? < 1389230941 992616 :{C}!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the type of the object is a beep, derived from noise, derived from a call. < 1389230963 359118 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which system beeps? The Dwight D. Eisenhower National System of Interstate and Defense Highways, obviously.) < 1389230975 11777 :{C}!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you just lost me. < 1389231021 139654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of you were ever found anyway. < 1389231079 661365 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is a type < 1389231106 199552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"C < 1389231110 367401 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1389231112 616609 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1389231113 399170 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A type is a property of an abstract object determining the contexts in which it can be meaningfully used. < 1389231122 165919 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: stick a colon in front of each of your messages! < 1389231125 915527 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like this! < 1389231125 993017 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's "abstract" and "context" and "meaning" < 1389231137 854067 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are all these shockingly unfundamental things! < 1389231152 393091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: everything hth < 1389231161 972701 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1389231170 349392 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: consult the Blue Book. < 1389231174 542870 :{C}!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zooba wha. < 1389231189 386599 :{C}!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :blue book? wazzat? < 1389231199 466242 :{C}!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what're all of these marvelous things?! < 1389231213 750312 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that was a touhou fan comic < 1389231244 203876 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fundamental unit of computing is the volt < 1389231251 996480 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Blue Book is also known as "Fundamentals of Philosophy", published by David Zeittler in 2018. < 1389231282 918422 :{C}!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuckin' lol. < 1389231310 289440 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He describes a complete philosophical framework within which most major philosophical problems can be solved. < 1389231331 121596 :{C}!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fully convinced that tswett is insane. < 1389231331 584131 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's quite the book. You should read it. < 1389231396 898944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mad < 1389231402 272388 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked. "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here." < 1389231429 347639 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm never heard of that < 1389231474 125143 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, where were we. I was trying to figure out the type of an object which must be invoked exactly once, and then returns control. < 1389231520 823305 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't linear logic supposed to have such a thing... < 1389231529 675604 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think trying to find a fundamental unit of computing always flops. < 1389231533 930265 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :{C}, sacrifice Linear Interpol: You get an emblem with "Creatures you control get +4/+4 and have double strike and trample." < 1389231541 814473 :{C}!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :friggin' lol. < 1389231544 115455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does {C} even mean < 1389231549 129186 :{C}!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know. < 1389231552 977084 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Copyright lemon. < 1389231556 705097 :{C}!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL. < 1389231562 502687 :{C}!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm keeping that. < 1389231575 466428 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one's buying the act, oklopol < 1389231667 192153 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lessee, one lolly one is bottom par one which, in the waiting state, is... some thing, who the hell knows... < 1389231705 532766 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use chu spaces to figure it out < 1389231706 35845 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How the hell is it determined which of the things in a par is... eh, best not to think about it. < 1389231717 604856 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The object I mentioned has type Unit -> Unit. < 1389231718 940345 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the chu space calculator will even do it < 1389231742 691720 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://chu.stanford.edu/live/ < 1389231743 621548 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You invoke it using a Unit as input. It replies with a Unit as output. < 1389231827 818213 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes. < 1389231916 937142 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about an "int" variable? !((Int -> Unit) & (Unit -> Int)), of course. < 1389232001 146953 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But perhaps an int variable is best seen as an object that can be gotten and set an unlimited number of times. < 1389232015 586074 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then I suppose that really, an int variable ought to be destroyed exactly once. < 1389232191 263778 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389232392 235370 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone claimed that Rebol PARSE and Parsec are in the same class < 1389232426 652379 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's Rebol PARSE? < 1389232453 343096 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A DSL that Rebol comes with for parsing < 1389232490 465287 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.red-lang.org/2013/11/041-introducing-parse.html < 1389233047 719582 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, this is the first time I've heard of Rascal < 1389233073 550033 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or... hmm, looks familiar, just the page I mean < 1389233298 172318 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The full BF impl is 404ed < 1389233298 867849 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1389233341 723066 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night, all. < 1389233345 182652 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1389233667 242348 :SirCmpwn_!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1389233700 972149 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1389233779 121848 :SirCmpwn_!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn NICK :SirCmpwn < 1389233942 687103 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In order to do closures in Rebol you need to specify that the environment you're closing on (if a function) is a closure when you define it < 1389233956 580635 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1389234015 128832 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«@me_irl: i'm going to have a "for dummies" series of technical guides but with names like From Hell's Heart I Stab At... Microsoft SQL» < 1389234314 648937 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389234403 172345 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://www.rebol.com/r3/docs/concepts/modules-loading.html < 1389234415 650897 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Check out the section "Validating modules with a hash checksum" < 1389234443 143497 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems more thoughtful than you'd expect from a language that's ok with running code directly from the Internet < 1389234541 952364 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1389234726 149149 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots of languagesw are fine with that. < 1389234733 426210 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, curl | sh is an idiom, right? < 1389234758 813454 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i for one don't think of shell as "thoughtful" < 1389234794 249751 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a thoughtful, minimalist, artisinal shell, done right < 1389234803 173827 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a shell that celebrates craftsmanship < 1389234803 882066 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hand-crafted < 1389234819 762151 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the slow fourier transform movement" < 1389235041 524985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :transforming while you eat carefully prepared food and watch the next norwegian real-time documentary on grass growing. < 1389235062 53121 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no, i don't think that documentary has been made yet, although it's inevitable.) < 1389235087 76158 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sick of documentaries about grass growing, i want a gritty antihero drama about grass growing < 1389235092 678074 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...... probably been done fsvo "grass" < 1389235098 216838 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :developmental biology is cool :< < 1389235135 896847 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, just focusing a camera on it isn't going to be any better than focusing a camera on hitler as he goes on and on about music < 1389235381 710699 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1389235382 524279 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1389235496 852623 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389235864 912509 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A function that is used as an infix operator. Examples are +, -, [bad-link:functions/z-gtb-lt.txt] and /." < 1389235912 44367 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dee < 1389235912 945179 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :p < 1389236969 396199 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389238890 216941 :{C}!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389239593 273418 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1389240232 923580 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1389240968 599771 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there fullwidth versions of æ and Æ and such? < 1389241050 303541 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't seem to be. < 1389241055 119884 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1389241064 883418 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they should have them for ☹ and ☺ < 1389241102 669839 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I would buy From Hell's Heart I Stab At Microsoft SQL < 1389241156 140811 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So would many of my coworkers. < 1389241171 120506 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never dealt with microsoft sql ... is it bad? < 1389241173 51130 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: also I was confused about the weird way you were quoting yourself, before I figured it out < 1389241178 910854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it's software, so yes < 1389241184 542714 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1389241194 994785 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft somehow is amazing at hardware. < 1389241226 248649 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't quoting myself < 1389241230 182655 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I think it's because they don't make it themselves < 1389241241 498595 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't joke < 1389241259 286202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike is serious like a heart attack < 1389241408 758446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sneak attack, bike < 1389241940 140340 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1389241950 195447 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke JOIN :#esoteric < 1389242076 321093 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex JOIN :#esoteric < 1389242078 570990 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1389242101 809813 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex NICK :preflex < 1389242166 823124 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389242198 838209 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389242471 816430 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389242611 781441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :til there's a band named The Internet < 1389243323 521186 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :*.net *.split < 1389243371 194058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still no Main Page? < 1389243430 86462 :FreeFull!~freefull@host-92-30-43-41.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389243468 259124 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik < 1389243475 858672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :larry page should have a kid and name them Main Page < 1389243491 417940 :FreeFull!~freefull@host-92-30-43-41.as13285.net NICK :Guest1649 < 1389243501 751455 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt we recommend people how to get sued by their kids < 1389243572 537736 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know at least one person who named their kid after an anime character, the future is weird < 1389243591 955246 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know siblings named Zarathustra and Galadriel < 1389243756 22643 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm my hands are covered in glitter < 1389244050 155320 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1389244058 228056 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389244092 502525 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389244401 76577 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1389244486 225877 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i can disconfirm that saying Zarathustra and Galadriel causes this effect in general hth < 1389244494 548548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(darn) < 1389245105 84402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Najt < 1389245655 272631 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389245947 898041 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389247421 43089 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389247473 660303 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1389247504 787455 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i switched from xp to linux mint since it's going to explode soon, and since i had some trouble getting internet to work in chile < 1389247522 772401 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :now every morning starts with 10 minutes of waiting for it to wake up or with a restart < 1389247568 133252 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a particularly bad linux or is xp just a particularly good os? < 1389247634 59523 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to be fair, apart from the morning sickness, this is much faster than xp) < 1389247667 959385 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :computers are often tested and made to work with windows, less often with linux < 1389247828 109632 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah this is not even one of the few linuxes they list on their webpage < 1389247836 382082 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the manufacturer or whatevererer < 1389247861 837271 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1389247864 386346 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a lenovo thinkpad and i was a bit skeptical how well linux would work because they seemed to have made some hacks on top of windows < 1389247891 474022 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thinkpads have pretty good linux support generally < 1389247900 970139 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because for example the list of available networks was always empty, and instead you used this magical black thinkpad window to connect < 1389247910 429068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you check out thinkwiki for your model < 1389247915 481521 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1389247940 580860 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy crap there's a wiki dedicated to this. < 1389247947 150471 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do i ever do anything without asking here first < 1389247983 85054 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or googling) < 1389248129 645720 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although it's a bit hard to google much when the reason you are installing linux is that you cannot access the internet) < 1389248134 543866 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or ask here) < 1389248140 106303 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or fucking live?!?!?) < 1389248188 47445 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's annoyingly common that the first thing you need internet for is downloading network drivers < 1389248419 785889 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god, yes. < 1389248433 925387 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION spent a whole day doing so gggghggh
< 1389248438 67199 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing we all have backup computers eh < 1389248797 199872 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: Eureka (the tv series) had a cure for the common cold, but allegedly it was simply too expensive to make < 1389248847 598321 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, whoa, whoa, new catsters videos < 1389248867 432587 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, whoa, whoa! what are catsters videos? < 1389248919 170478 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/user/TheCatsters < 1389249649 975572 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If "waiting for it to wake up" means some sort of suspend mode, those are often remarkably flaky on Linux. < 1389249675 137971 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've personally ever had a laptop with an entirely working suspend-resume behavior in Linux. < 1389249884 549740 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean suspend-to-disk or just regular suspend? < 1389250565 603393 :tromp!~tromp@69.112.162.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389250816 435080 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either, really. But maybe suspend-to-disk has been slightly more reliable, IME. < 1389250833 686832 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :regular suspend works fine for me < 1389250848 300797 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also worked fine on N previous laptops < 1389250849 648486 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people just have all the luck, I guess. < 1389250955 668848 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do keep a rabbit's foot in the same bag i put the computer in < 1389251016 266374 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is connected to a rabbit < 1389251025 974047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the previous two statements are false < 1389251650 160142 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1389251766 501868 :Guest1649!~freefull@host-92-30-43-41.as13285.net QUIT : < 1389252511 965598 :tromp!~tromp@69.112.162.42 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1389255883 733553 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i don't have any suspend mode < 1389255896 197337 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even anything resembling a screensaver < 1389256620 663303 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just gets lonely i guess < 1389256784 863843 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389256827 231178 :rodgort`!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1389256917 903826 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389258806 17157 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389259421 665321 :{C}!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389260544 387571 :{C}!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1389262062 748740 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1389262819 935329 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.58.47 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1389265895 947573 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.58.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389266944 958145 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389267331 591424 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org NICK :Maybe < 1389267337 99697 :Maybe!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org NICK :Taneb < 1389268511 920551 :Zerker!~zerker@2602:306:bd53:9ef0:3d31:f9a2:cc91:ac4f JOIN :#esoteric < 1389268539 716367 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.58.47 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389268723 818823 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1389269169 973002 :Zerker!~zerker@2602:306:bd53:9ef0:3d31:f9a2:cc91:ac4f QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPad - Timeout (10 minutes) < 1389269212 132891 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1389269852 616206 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1389269914 975683 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389269953 939105 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1389270003 839301 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Awful Games Done Quick part is up. Next up: Attack of the Killer Tomatoes and E.T. http://de.twitch.tv/speeddemosarchivesda < 1389270354 833286 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1389271046 882440 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1389271668 154028 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1389271914 896345 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1389272266 908041 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1389272519 952527 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389272600 971732 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389272704 885903 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good unidling morning! < 1389272770 377139 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sort of a dling is a uni-dling? < 1389272839 620563 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the Whole Entire Uni-Versal Dling of Them All. < 1389273051 147419 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389273213 763285 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389274759 794092 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1389274864 883206 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389274950 733475 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389274984 969836 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389275218 202312 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1389275259 826875 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1389275515 112159 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1389277821 998296 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1389279575 796712 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.95.91 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389279913 881830 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389281409 827761 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shaun! http://youtu.be/0t0uCWjQ6Og < 1389281439 994859 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shaun, as in the sheep of the same name? < 1389281529 929647 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1389281944 971652 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42892.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1389282774 511103 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds > 1389282847 664795 JOIN :#esoteric > 1389282851 783983 JOIN :#esoteric > 1389282852 299496 JOIN :#esoteric > 1389283208 148713 JOIN :#esoteric > 1389283212 268426 JOIN :#esoteric > 1389283212 783275 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389283229 795617 :glogbot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1389283232 527568 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric > 1389283568 686784 JOIN :#esoteric > 1389283572 816407 JOIN :#esoteric > 1389283573 332041 JOIN :#esoteric > 1389283613 903851 JOIN :#esoteric > 1389283618 30501 JOIN :#esoteric > 1389283618 547857 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389283630 741565 :glogbot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1389283717 122543 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1389283717 306464 :Guest96869!~Gregor@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1389283785 130475 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1389283801 311632 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a shop that sells typewriter ribbon so I bought some but it isn't compatible with my typewriter < 1389283905 180370 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :An excellent video in which a professional corrects some common misunderstandings about digital audio. (Those 192 kHz/24 bit music downloads are just a waste of disk space.) http://xiph.org/video/vid2.shtml < 1389283932 871646 :Effilry!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1389283944 820181 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1389284307 295041 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch NICK :mroman < 1389284450 215511 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I watched it during the holidays. it was an ok movie. < 1389284462 264726 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: buy a new typewriter? < 1389284612 546104 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: :\ but it's hilarious! < 1389284729 885812 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, a simon pegg movie I haven't seen < 1389284943 586488 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, expeeensiiiiibe < 1389284952 647094 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-ve < 1389285024 604013 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that much? I don't know what's the average MSRP for a middle-end typewriter? < 1389285042 845594 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s?\?$?.? < 1389285350 380236 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea < 1389285359 581593 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I got this one for £5 at a charity shop < 1389285437 823408 :drlemon!~drlemon@cpe-108-185-0-32.socal.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389286110 749677 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1389286304 632384 :Effilry!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly NICK :FireFly < 1389286625 728686 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389286831 225051 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1389286842 972470 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1389287230 348461 :qlkzy_!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a NICK :qlkzy < 1389287441 190368 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1389287457 260601 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1389288506 770821 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389288536 785046 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-38-142.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1389288570 754090 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-38-142.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1389288570 976898 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1389288648 55865 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am feeling very stupef now. < 1389288649 872747 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ordered a replacement DVD drive, because the old one had started to make this every-now-and-then-about-once-a-day series of seeking/"bootup" noises (even with no disc), and no longer read anything. < 1389288654 27981 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The new drive arrived today; after opening up the box to install it, discovered that the SATA data cable was kinda-sorta half-loose. < 1389288657 62121 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :After plugging that in, the old drive seems to work just fine. :/ < 1389289586 785520 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1389290043 232725 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn :( Well, now you can watch _two_ DVDs! < 1389290143 182447 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I was thinking I'm going to take advantage of the guaranteed 14-day for-free return period for internet shopping. But I'm still a bit ashamed to be wasting the shop's money. < 1389290211 226079 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. I bought my last graphics card from them, let's hope it had enough of a profit margin to cover mailing a small box around a bit. < 1389290491 344557 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389290529 683471 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :this orange juice is enriched with "one of the most studied species of bacteria" < 1389290542 123169 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(luckily not e. coli) < 1389290589 876053 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this tea is enriched with one of the most studied species of microscopic flatworm" < 1389290609 382110 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389290615 495697 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what's with Chu spaces? < 1389290654 645559 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :C h u < 1389290760 697386 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*audience laughter* < 1389290779 826535 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389291075 660542 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa, what? This says bottom times bottom is top. < 1389291225 617445 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I'm not a fussy eater, I'll gladly eat just about anything, and drink stuff that may have been somewhat liquid in its distant past but now evolved to a new phase, but... flatworms??? < 1389291435 268472 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. you were being biologically sarcastic. < 1389291476 770702 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-66-239.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389291571 954130 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-168-136.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389291596 177764 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ties Bike to a hopefully stable connection
< 1389291708 795567 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1389292021 660463 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1389292021 957207 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 091800Z 26008KT 15SM FEW030 M09/M16 A3059 RMK SC1 SC TR SLP361 < 1389292133 51256 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1389292133 486273 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 091820Z 06003KT 9999 FEW015 BKN023 03/02 Q0997 NOSIG < 1389292165 919078 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar VHDK < 1389292166 331780 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1389292185 205415 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KLHS < 1389292185 546688 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1389292196 709266 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar LMCP < 1389292197 46104 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1389292207 983596 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ICMP < 1389292208 388339 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1389292227 398597 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar TLHA < 1389292227 794936 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1389292234 217490 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar OBLC < 1389292234 592045 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1389292259 860411 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I now have statistically significant evidence that if I ~metar an arbitrary string of four letters, there's less than a 50% chance I'll have hit a real station. < 1389292312 420754 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ZUUU < 1389292312 841306 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZUUU 091800Z 02005MPS 7000 SCT050 06/02 Q1023 NOSIG < 1389292458 104449 :impomatic!~digital_w@206.181.208.46.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389292701 97819 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh? I asked Wolfie for a confidence interval, with a confidence level of 0.95, given a sample size of 5 and a sample proportion of 0. < 1389292723 678180 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says the actual chance of hitting a real station is probably less than 2.2*10 < 1389292734 16665 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.2*10^-308. < 1389292753 765759 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The actual chance of hitting a real station is certainly less than 2.2*10.) < 1389292808 81183 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 26^4 < 1389292809 104434 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 456976 < 1389292861 485512 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: also the fact that C. elegans is awesome (or is that a roundworm?) < 1389292918 116445 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's a roundworm < 1389293009 702125 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, c. elegans caused a nobel prize, that's not bad for a wee roundworm < 1389293028 292596 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, Clopper-Pearson gives a more realistic answer. It says the probability is probably at most 0.5218. < 1389293077 244459 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jeffreys says it's probably at most 0.3794. Oddly, it also says it's probably at least 9.342*10^-5. < 1389293078 843770 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1389293216 232183 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote statistics < 1389293218 19088 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :608) Yeah, statistics with 2 data points is science. Statistics with one data point is crap. You measure a third point if you need an error estimate. \ 1130) everything is either zipf, branford, poisson, gamma, or uniform. outside of that, it's a weird curve invented by sadistic statistics teachers. < 1389293258 490423 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Statistics with one data point is mathematics. < 1389293285 981693 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I pick a random person from the world population, and that person is female, I can conclude that there exists at least one female. < 1389293349 941836 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find that conclusion presumptuous, you vile cishet male! check your privileges! < 1389293467 707881 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile, I received the manga I ordered! :D) < 1389293536 761784 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1389293555 389261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: dumb < 1389293573 31243 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what am I dumbing? < 1389294113 417751 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION , undertaking great risks with such a dangerous gesture, mapoles elliott
< 1389294539 811313 :stuntaneous!~stuntaneo@2001:1af8:4700:a000:10:: JOIN :#esoteric < 1389294746 315505 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome stuntaneous < 1389294749 180913 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07stuntaneous: 08Welcome 09to 02the 06international 13hub 04for 07esoteric 08programming 09language 02design 06and 13deployment! 04For 07more 08information, 09check 02out 06our 13wiki: 04. 07(For 08the 09other 02kind 06of 13esoterica, 04try 07#esoteric 08on 09irc.dal.net.) < 1389294772 608585 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ello stuntaneous < 1389294774 893731 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellstuntaneous < 1389294787 176194 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, close enough < 1389295271 896198 :impomatic!~digital_w@206.181.208.46.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1389295670 936272 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1389295680 424953 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a shm-script? < 1389295721 676870 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like s/([^aeiou]+)(.*)/\1\2 shm\2/ < 1389295773 404519 :impomatic!~digital_w@206.181.208.46.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389295858 71667 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i find it strange that your list of common continuous distributions did not include normal < 1389295867 833366 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -e '#!/bin/sh\nsed -e \'s/([^aeiou]+)(.*)/\1\2 shm\2/\' "$@"' >bin/shmify < 1389295869 238919 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `(' \ bash: -c: line 0: `echo -e '#!/bin/sh\nsed -e \'s/([^aeiou]+)(.*)/\1\2 shm\2/\' "$@"' >bin/shmify' < 1389295892 228141 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it's something that irks me to no end, to have a statistics `quote without that PDF. < 1389295901 504690 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there needs to be ^ and $ < 1389295903 781157 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389295922 406374 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^([^aeiou]+)(.*)$ < 1389295927 250101 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: please do it. my '"'"'"'-fu is weak today. < 1389295930 895266 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1389295946 456425 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1389296022 649614 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: \ in ' does nothing, so \' is a literal backslash and the end of the quoted string < 1389296086 715856 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun way to put a literal ' in a '-quoted string: '"'"' < 1389296099 691096 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1389296113 458725 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's even worse than what visual basic does < 1389296179 956295 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :('\'' might be more readable, but less fun) < 1389296258 388719 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric : `run echo -e '#!/bin/sh\nsed -e '"'"'s/^([^aeiou]+)(.*)$/\1\2 shm\2/'"'"' "$@"' >bin/shmify < 1389296262 179745 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -e '#!/bin/sh\nsed -e '"'"'s/^([^aeiou]+)(.*)$/\1\2 shm\2/'"'"' "$@"' >bin/shmify < 1389296265 958092 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389296283 814765 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run shmify baby < 1389296285 109978 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: /hackenv/bin/shmify: Permission denied < 1389296291 331038 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~~ < 1389296291 534487 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1389296307 76796 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`shmify baby < 1389296308 214206 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/shmify: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/shmify: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1389296322 105742 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod 0755 bin/shmify < 1389296325 515254 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389296331 230637 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`shmify mogrify < 1389296332 459312 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 31: invalid reference \2 on `s' command's RHS < 1389296344 472394 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1389296482 172705 :impomatic!~digital_w@206.181.208.46.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1389296542 940465 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, "$@" as an argument to sed? did you mean echo | sed, or should it be used like \? "$@" | shmify? < 1389296834 785645 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe < 1389297170 692285 :impomatic!~digital_w@206.181.208.46.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389297584 862634 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would the regex for all the names of Ghaddafi be ^[^qgk]h?add?h?af?fi$ < 1389297602 621536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a stacoverfluw qusetion about that < 1389297605 711111 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't be bothered to spell sorry < 1389297631 430388 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5365283/regular-expression-to-search-for-gadaffi < 1389297635 316199 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed there is < 1389297673 659390 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\b[KGQ]h?add?h?af?fi\b < 1389297686 860518 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesss < 1389297690 469424 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perfect score < 1389297743 983009 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but are all combinations for each choice valid, or are there just three or something different transliteration schemes? < 1389297818 415993 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt that "Qhaddhaffi" gets much use, but if it ever appeared at all, I expect it would be Gadaffi. < 1389297824 367518 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, not that people would follow any given scheme consistently anyway < 1389297842 544418 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner : http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2009/09/how-many-different-ways-can-you-spell-gaddafi/ < 1389297850 490494 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Kaddafi just did not give a fuck < 1389297868 832475 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Qadthafi < 1389297870 45611 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaaat < 1389297925 800613 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and are there many spellings in arabic too, or is there a single correct original spelling? < 1389298010 824346 :stuntaneous!~stuntaneo@2001:1af8:4700:a000:10:: QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1389298049 902031 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode القذافي < 1389298051 749819 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0627 ARABIC LETTER ALEF] [U+0644 ARABIC LETTER LAM] [U+0642 ARABIC LETTER QAF] [U+0630 ARABIC LETTER THAL] [U+0627 ARABIC LETTER ALEF] [U+0641 ARABIC LETTER FEH] [U+064A ARABIC LETTER YEH] < 1389298082 212370 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :qaf thal? < 1389298091 740536 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right. vowels. < 1389298202 426117 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think those are the names of the letters, not the pronunciation < 1389298231 450792 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... qthafy? < 1389298264 92062 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :al-qafthalaleffehyeh. ← I prefer that version. < 1389298912 937492 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-168-136.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1389299021 867660 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-74-250.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389299384 5569 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :minirrti < 1389299396 506499 :minirrti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1389300757 446669 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389302135 733813 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42892.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389302758 15126 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1389303028 824301 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: CHICKEN ALIGNMENT! < 1389303031 92368 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389303631 765649 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1389303717 932201 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389303728 227404 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1389304483 834181 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any command line tools or python libraries or similar to easily extract data from HTML pages. Lets say, finding new posts on some web site without RSS feeds, that sort of stuff. < 1389304515 240322 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't particlarly enjoy parsing HTML, and I doubt an XML parser would like this particular HTML either < 1389304583 100229 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beautiful Soup is a good Python library for web scraping < 1389304623 814000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it deals with the kind of terrible HTML found in the wild < 1389304634 415315 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other approach I would suggest is PhantomJS / CasperJS, which runs a real (headless) WebKit browser instance and lets you interrogate it with javascript < 1389304649 808804 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that lets you scrape even very dynamic sites < 1389305084 941302 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389305107 161954 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, thanks < 1389305150 352424 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389305165 910294 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll avoid the js path if possible since I don't really know js all that well < 1389305173 934868 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389305212 538170 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like you can use PhantomJS from Python as well: http://www.realpython.com/blog/python/headless-selenium-testing-with-python-and-phantomjs/#.Us8db5WVthE < 1389305256 647027 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :JavaScript is a fairly shitty language but it's also simple, especially if you're just writing "scripts" and not trying to architect a large application < 1389305282 784161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my main advice is to get a program like jslint or jshint and pay attention to its warnings, even if you end up disabling some < 1389305314 503088 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically I discovered that the feeds provided by youtube behind the scenes (not easy to find) lags behind, and the web site I normally used (youtube video deck) recently started missing a few posted videos. And do not even speak of the subscription list on youtube, it is terrible. I haven't seen the channel pages fail though < 1389305348 165710 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So my plan is to scrape them for all my subscriptions and diff the result (plus add in some system to mark videos as watched) < 1389305389 27875 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I'll probably throw this up on my nginx web server running on my RPi so I can use it from my tablet as well. < 1389305445 799692 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure how to best do the page generation on the RPi though... cron script is probably easiest? < 1389305468 839974 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you run nginx on an RPi does it become an ЯPi < 1389305530 626932 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1389305538 337107 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1389305558 876095 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I run ssh, nfs, samba, ipv6 tunnel, openvpn tunnel and a few other things on it too < 1389305575 224743 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :512 MB RAM goes a long way when you don't use a GUI < 1389305637 926964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1389305761 985928 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389305933 12054 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389305944 564390 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey guys. < 1389306015 862520 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it seems like first-order logic is a lot more popular than second-order logic. Why is this? Is it because of its simplicity and Gödel's completeness theorem? < 1389306075 801373 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1389307144 203368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1389307164 11421 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1389308134 554879 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1389308311 79387 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, wrt js being for scripts, so is python to quite a large degree < 1389308644 460965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/shmify < 1389308645 744634 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ sed -e 's/^([^aeiou]+)(.*)$/\1\2 shm\2/' "$@" < 1389308674 566521 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`shmify maechtig < 1389308675 792121 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 31: invalid reference \2 on `s' command's RHS < 1389308695 945398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering about that < 1389308765 301759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/thanks < 1389308766 625003 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl \ $_ = (join " ", @ARGV) || `words`; s/^\s+|\s+$//g; print "Thanks, $_. "; if (/[aeiouyAEIOUY]/) { s/^[^aeiouyAEIOUY]*/Th/; } else { s/^./T/; } print "$_."; < 1389308780 130369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm different method. < 1389308833 305141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo sed | sed -e 's/^([^aeiou]+)(.*)$/\1\2 shm\2/' < 1389308834 761883 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 31: invalid reference \2 on `s' command's RHS < 1389308843 946828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo sed | sed -e 's/^([^aeiou]\+)(.*)$/\1\2 shm\2/' < 1389308845 312179 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 32: invalid reference \2 on `s' command's RHS < 1389308853 277122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo sed | sed -e 's/^([^aeiou]+)(.*)$/\1\2 shm/' < 1389308854 695875 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 29: invalid reference \2 on `s' command's RHS < 1389308872 931600 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 's/^([^aeiou]\+)(.*)$/\1\2 shm\2/' < 1389308874 378388 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/^([^aeiou]\+)(.*)$/\1\2 shm\2/ < 1389308927 342946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo sed | sed -e 's/^([^aeiou]+)(.*)$/\1/' < 1389308928 782744 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 23: invalid reference \1 on `s' command's RHS < 1389308936 745243 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo sed | sed -e 's/^\([^aeiou]\+\)\(.*\)$/\1\2 shm\2/' < 1389308938 76382 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed shmed < 1389308967 745284 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah it was all that non-perly syntax < 1389308989 514055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/shmify < 1389308990 835908 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ sed -e 's/^([^aeiou]+)(.*)$/\1\2 shm\2/' "$@" < 1389308991 391904 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I didn't say that either is "for scripts" < 1389308998 25980 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said that there's less to learn if you're only using them for scripts < 1389309002 760952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably true of any language < 1389309011 758874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that "$@" is also obviously wrong. < 1389309021 870113 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's especially true of JavaScript, because the design patterns for large applications are just design patterns and not things built into the language < 1389309090 443388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run (echo '#!/bin/bash'; echo 'echo "$@" | sed -e '\''s/^\([^aeiou]\+\)\(.*\)$/\1\2 shm\2/'\'' >bin/shmify < 1389309091 656656 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1389309095 687094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run (echo '#!/bin/bash'; echo 'echo "$@" | sed -e '\''s/^\([^aeiou]\+\)\(.*\)$/\1\2 shm\2/'\'') >bin/shmify < 1389309096 858764 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1389309120 889867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run (echo '#!/bin/bash'; echo 'echo "$@" | sed -e '\''s/^\([^aeiou]\+\)\(.*\)$/\1\2 shm\2/'\') >bin/shmify < 1389309124 110715 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389309132 439380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`shmify fnord < 1389309133 852659 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord shmord < 1389309178 182789 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`shmify maechtig < 1389309179 580602 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :maechtig shmaechtig < 1389309202 454200 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`shmify oerjan < 1389309203 900263 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1389309231 931049 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run (echo '#!/bin/bash'; echo 'echo "$@" | sed -e '\''s/^\([^aeiou]*\)\(.*\)$/\1\2 shm\2/'\') >bin/shmify < 1389309233 600106 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`shmify oerjan < 1389309235 184139 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389309236 276034 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan shmoerjan < 1389309291 422997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i was also thinking it should be * < 1389309294 191155 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389309587 628656 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : that's probably true of any language <-- well yeah < 1389309657 820413 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night < 1389309675 503457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night < 1389310142 825479 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1389310533 473864 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric