< 1389657708 94862 :atrapado!~dro@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1389658825 9835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: what's a swedish rabbit who thinks everyone should listen to a bit of carmina burana < 1389658880 681710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmm i have some bacon wrapped filets mignon in my freezer hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm < 1389658939 419501 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 lazy 2 cook < 1389659047 567305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks olsner might be idle. < 1389659122 542875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to know the answer! < 1389659140 878826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though you don't know swedish? < 1389659172 588 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a risk i'll just have to take < 1389659187 466620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "lagom orff" hth < 1389659229 631026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, whoa, whoa, did you know that monomorphisms and epimorphisms are both a form of injectivity thing < 1389659237 830201 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie injective and surjective functions < 1389659262 536174 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular "f is injective" means "(f .) is injective" and "f is surjective" means "(. f) is injective" < 1389659290 706571 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1389659381 558102 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except this works in any category, not just (->), otherwise it would be a silly definition) < 1389659410 106550 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389659431 925705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when they're surjective you get something stronger (but backwards) < 1389659434 837886 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it disturbs me that two of your three commas are bolded < 1389659462 9327 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do bold spaces disturb you < 1389659466 118520 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1389659473 476644 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole phrase is bolded. "whoa, whoa, whoa" is atomic < 1389659509 192771 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway if (f .) is surjective then f has a left inverse?? and (. f) -> right inverse? or something like that < 1389659510 691711 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a Cablevisionary! < 1389659576 245972 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: I'm not actually that excited about the cutesy name for Cablevision employees) < 1389659583 795919 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just discovered that my classic, 81 Mercedes C123 coupe has its left wind welded into the ramp < 1389659701 514004 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i keep thinking that you are nooodl and then i realize that you are not nooodl so who even are you < 1389659707 629649 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :names are confusing < 1389659717 471403 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1389659729 81027 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep logs < 1389659732 290675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nooodl would never say a thing like that. what's a wind anyway < 1389659742 729767 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :wing* < 1389659751 523863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't grep logs. no logs < 1389659764 433152 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ ? < 1389659772 482923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no grep < 1389659791 297181 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :wget them all and then can and grep < 1389659791 930397 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389659794 622552 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat* < 1389659796 117661 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffs < 1389659809 161732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would i discover < 1389659826 78380 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf < 1389659835 294069 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what IS a wind < 1389659842 607050 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :wing < 1389659865 5722 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: we just don't know < 1389659865 767721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1389659897 337854 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you'll discover that I haunted this # for a long time < 1389659916 145640 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :9-10 years maybe < 1389659930 587725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't disbelieve you < 1389659935 776458 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1389659937 638923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about it < 1389659954 935167 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh just grep the logs and infer who am I from it < 1389660109 133150 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1389660135 315624 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe this isn't the best idea < 1389660202 998666 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, who's noodl? < 1389660226 529940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : anyway if (f .) is surjective then f has a left inverse?? and (. f) -> right inverse? or something like that < 1389660233 869589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds about right < 1389660250 809375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting identity and getting everything seems equivalent < 1389660354 320995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Note: I'm not actually that excited about the cutesy name for Cablevision employees) <-- do you have a company anthem twh < 1389660450 306522 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :gob gob < 1389660462 366621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nooga is the pole, that's easy to remember. < 1389660468 335119 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha! < 1389660481 392536 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan never fails < 1389660483 149281 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've had other poles in here < 1389660486 806854 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or have we? < 1389660488 538471 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka? < 1389660568 511807 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: tbh i don't know who are you, you must be new here then < 1389660605 768747 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i'm new < 1389660612 287172 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooodl < 1389660614 761741 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooodl is the correct spelling < 1389660622 676227 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? noooodl < 1389660624 427605 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooodl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1389660628 281227 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1389660676 585003 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo add a special case to bin/? for no+dl < 1389660692 82119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is one, but maybe not in the sense you want < 1389660706 810522 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean the one for output? < 1389660710 418010 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1389660714 181239 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is not no+dl < 1389660734 921327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/? < 1389660736 212171 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "$topic1" = "ngevd" \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; \ else echo "$1? ¯\ < 1389660740 794201 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's no{3,9}dl or something < 1389660745 460704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/rnooodl < 1389660746 969511 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -pe 's/nooodl/"n@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge' < 1389660759 316721 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are those prety graphs derived from the logs < 1389660769 581042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: ask fizzie < 1389660771 516858 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAIR fizzie made them < 1389660776 409458 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes < 1389660794 821354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere on zem.fi < 1389660802 955739 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1389660824 822967 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log zem[.]fi < 1389660856 119650 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389660908 295618 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah, can't find them < 1389660908 665342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '2s!s/!s/no\+dl/nooodl/;s/!' bin/? < 1389660913 870050 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389660921 365325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm oops < 1389660923 485821 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389660926 393425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/? < 1389660927 873533 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/no+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "$topic1" = "ngevd" \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; \ el < 1389660937 956836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1389660940 285042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1389660944 583548 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1389660954 961010 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '2s!s/!s/no\\+dl/nooodl/;s/!' bin/'?' < 1389660958 500463 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389660964 637924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? noooooooooodl < 1389660966 909839 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooooodl is the correct spelling < 1389660981 660312 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash... < 1389660981 844970 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nodl < 1389660983 554150 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooodl is the correct spelling < 1389660985 257537 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I `run perl -e "fork while fork" ? < 1389660988 723594 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodl < 1389660990 687759 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooooodl is the correct spelling < 1389661000 549460 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the correct spelling random? < 1389661004 949865 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1389661008 124884 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: correct < 1389661014 960562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it ever the same as the original query? < 1389661063 533621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's between 3 and 9 os, I think? < 1389661067 296326 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/rnooodl < 1389661068 729420 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -pe 's/nooodl/"n@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge' < 1389661239 225495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/n*dl* < 1389661241 129989 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/nooodl < 1389661311 239425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/? < 1389661312 468651 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/no\+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "$topic1" = "ngevd" \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; \ e < 1389661338 84257 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '2s/no/noo/' bin/\? < 1389661342 21043 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389661347 95938 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nodl < 1389661348 385423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what, why? < 1389661349 120590 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :nodl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1389661350 107250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? noodl < 1389661351 980494 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooooodl is the correct spelling < 1389661355 208598 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like something is broken < 1389661361 556988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because one o is just broken < 1389661364 541366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you think? < 1389661368 857530 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well ok < 1389661392 489440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn nooodles are the invention of the chinese. they were brought to europe by marco polo, a distant ancestor of taneb. < 1389661397 278226 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1389661406 900620 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1389661411 445136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? noooooooodles < 1389661413 747501 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooodles are the invention of the chinese. they were brought to europe by marco polo, a distant ancestor of taneb. < 1389661416 230957 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've set up highlights on /no+dl/ before. people have called me nodl before as a result! history repeats itself < 1389661429 866551 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ndl < 1389661431 414881 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ndl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1389661458 244742 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what's with not capitalizing wisdom entries < 1389661481 753613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: rnoodle isn't case insensitive < 1389661484 581152 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1389661503 389424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1389661506 649150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rnooodl < 1389661530 958506 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooga < 1389661532 828245 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga hate OS X. NOOGA SMASH. Hug not allowed. < 1389661535 822219 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf? < 1389661537 1890 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: namespacing < 1389661546 483490 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :programmers use caps conventions for namespacing all the time < 1389661562 384858 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in the future, we can make `? ALLCAPS do something completely unrelated to wisdom, for instance < 1389661569 49266 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389661571 769081 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1389661575 773402 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm talking about the text, not the file name. < 1389661595 529013 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's namespaced too, so if it's written in sentencecase, you know it's sarcastic, or something < 1389661607 665459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ? _is_ case insensitive. < 1389661636 552989 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, have you ever seen an uppercase '?'? < 1389661648 973010 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? NoOoOdL < 1389661650 631269 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl is the correct spelling < 1389661652 878732 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389661673 971900 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye glogbackup < 1389661675 359263 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/n/N/;s/ t/ T/;s/taneb/Taneb/' wisdom/nooodles < 1389661676 752487 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: can't read wisdom/nooodles: No such file or directory < 1389661681 247407 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/n/N/;s/ t/ T/;s/taneb/Taneb/' wisdom/noodles < 1389661682 879355 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bdsmreclist < 1389661683 64192 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: can't read wisdom/noodles: No such file or directory < 1389661684 324773 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ YOU are out of order. < 1389661687 813956 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1389661691 408501 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1389661712 813563 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo wisdom/*odl* < 1389661714 93532 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/nooodl wisdom/nooodle < 1389661716 137533 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just as a hint, if an op goes and edits something to say you shouldn't do it < 1389661726 811082 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should probably take the hint < 1389661768 809504 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what? < 1389661772 644853 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1389661790 26717 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which hint did I miss? < 1389661798 988295 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: don't deny it, this is hilarious < 1389661799 304551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION adds to the what? queue < 1389661809 97943 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1389661809 393398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what < 1389661820 623116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1389661832 579673 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not v. funny < 1389661842 7984 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea of the context < 1389661843 872 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooga < 1389661844 815464 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga hate OS X. NOOGA SMASH. Hug not allowed. < 1389661847 770783 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :now < 1389661850 669375 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :who did this < 1389661854 36772 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i cannot undeny things i don't understand hth < 1389661858 485373 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/n/N/;s/ t/ T/;s/taneb/Taneb/' wisdom/noodle < 1389661860 60205 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: can't read wisdom/noodle: No such file or directory < 1389661865 570889 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/n/N/;s/ t/ T/;s/taneb/Taneb/' wisdom/nooodle < 1389661869 256134 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389661870 771275 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one. < 1389661870 956167 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :t/an/eb/ < 1389661896 126298 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1389661902 989488 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was interpreting HackEgo's reponse as you disabling HackEgo entry < 1389661937 178510 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, ignore me < 1389661940 163233 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tired and incoherent < 1389661973 240184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PART #esoteric :"I'm too incoherent for meaningful conversation" < 1389661991 517095 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't actually have the power to do that, except by kicking HackEgo < 1389661994 73411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik < 1389662043 173251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooodle < 1389662047 26485 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nooodles are the invention of the chinese. They were brought to europe by marco polo, a distant ancestor of Taneb. < 1389662066 954986 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooga < 1389662068 816912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you didn't fix rnooodl to match < 1389662069 1754 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1389662074 7290 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :now < 1389662075 438018 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :better < 1389662082 491523 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ? < 1389662089 526877 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see. < 1389662105 41593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rnooodl is case-sensitive. < 1389662133 85215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Nooodles are the invention of the chinese. They were brought to Europe by Marco Polo, a distant ancestor of Taneb. < 1389662135 101485 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/learn: line 4: wisdom/: Is a directory \ I knew that. < 1389662136 88880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1389662141 381801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Nooodles are the invention of the chinese. They were brought to Europe by Marco Polo, a distant ancestor of Taneb. < 1389662145 984783 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1389662156 394770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i guess those are names too < 1389662162 398094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh still missed one < 1389662169 625038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Nooodles are the invention of the Chinese. They were brought to Europe by Marco Polo, a distant ancestor of Taneb. < 1389662174 436535 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1389662192 461547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/rnooodl < 1389662193 834645 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -pe 's/nooodl/"n@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge' < 1389662214 847717 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1389662234 41996 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389662239 922432 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo >bin/rnooodl 'perl -pe '\''s/[Nn]ooodl/"\1@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge'\' < 1389662243 701530 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389662244 576685 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that work < 1389662263 891778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'nooodl nooodle' | rnooodl < 1389662265 551770 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.ooodl .oooodle < 1389662266 334657 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you need ([Nn]) < 1389662270 204552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1389662272 708778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1389662274 952352 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it \([Nn]\) who knows < 1389662279 260387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my head i wrote the parentheses < 1389662292 424430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo >bin/rnooodl 'perl -pe '\''s/([Nn])ooodl/"\1@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge'\' < 1389662293 207932 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F04A MENTAL LEFT PARENTHESIS < 1389662298 841642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'nooodl nooodle' | rnooodl < 1389662304 508781 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PART :#esoteric < 1389662314 878023 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/rnooodl < 1389662331 474014 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did we break HackEgo again < 1389662335 906152 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1389662336 91286 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.ooodl .oooooooodle < 1389662336 769950 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -pe 's/[Nn]ooodl/"\1@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge' < 1389662337 7006 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1389662339 267089 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389662339 800104 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i did < 1389662352 343212 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'nooodl nooodle' | rnooodl < 1389662353 871358 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.oooooooodl .ooooooooodle < 1389662361 95195 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo >bin/rnooodl 'perl -pe '\''s/([Nn])ooodl/"\1@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge'\' < 1389662362 480523 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389662364 113184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'nooodl nooodle' | rnooodl < 1389662365 971910 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.ooodl .ooooooooodle < 1389662370 613607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/rnooodl < 1389662372 42336 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -pe 's/([Nn])ooodl/"\1@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge' < 1389662381 622492 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1389662403 464492 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :this gets almost as annoying as this haskell bot i remember from a while ago < 1389662422 132439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1389662423 293147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1389662424 467370 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1389662446 209109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo >bin/rnooodl 'perl -pe '\''s/([Nn])ooodl/"$1@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge'\' < 1389662449 469887 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389662459 517173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'nooodl nooodle' | rnooodl < 1389662461 162368 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooooodl noooodle < 1389662467 93515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go < 1389662476 991408 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: imagine being me. imagine the pings < 1389662487 544470 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooga < 1389662489 445353 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1389662489 702643 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1389662491 45516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1389662518 970597 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? noooooodles < 1389662521 78312 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noooooodles are the invention of the Chinese. They were brought to Europe by Marco Polo, a distant ancestor of Taneb. < 1389662563 876081 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bdsmreclist < 1389662565 241174 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ YOU are out of order. < 1389662566 965527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, boily will probably kill us < 1389662568 557101 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1389662714 149325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: when he has to update the pdf < 1389662741 402687 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, he does that by hand? < 1389662747 372257 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :crap < 1389662761 90362 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, where's elliott? < 1389662798 213598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :idle for 7 hours < 1389662914 862057 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1389663070 226871 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :crab < 1389663105 773309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with mayonnaise? < 1389663141 470350 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389663316 376262 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389663439 305816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :glogbackup: WHY ARE YOU HERE < 1389663908 743876 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389663928 62942 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you should have written your own stackoverflow answer rather than editing the other one < 1389663938 834557 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way you'd have gotten karma instead of rejected < 1389663951 769498 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe. i see someone else did. < 1389664009 733648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just hadn't understood edits were not meant to be used that way, i'm a wiki man you know < 1389664023 40473 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not? < 1389664034 58846 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea how edits are meant to be used < 1389664104 237094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well my edits were rejected by 3 people, all of which were shown as usually accepting edits, so i must have done _something_ wrong. < 1389664113 9292 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and 1 person accepted.) < 1389664139 460158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :censorship < 1389664200 329646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if you are allowed to open this link but http://stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/3792784 < 1389664220 601000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*my edit < 1389664256 586455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess < 1389665335 521959 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1389665464 265999 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1389665575 213097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389665766 363283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :more projects from the person who made the rule 110 scarf: http://www.ravelry.com/projects/fbz < 1389665780 915184 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and more info on how she programmed the knitting machine http://www.ravelry.com/projects/fbz/wolfram-1d-cellular-automata-01001001-scarf http://fabienne.us/tag/knittingmachine/ < 1389665790 172589 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i want a knitting machine, knitting machines are the new 3D printers < 1389666057 106244 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1389666696 673645 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1389666723 834349 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1389666943 909140 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389667398 408228 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389667774 613692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : we all know that it takes a steel foundry to really destroy malware. <-- now i'm wondering if it is possible to make a terminator^Wcomputer out of materials that can survive that < 1389668132 51305 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knee pain makes me feel like an old man. :( < 1389668471 269186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the knees. that's two parts of my body that usually _don't_ hurt. < 1389668509 501689 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not more than the legs in general, anyway. < 1389668532 70766 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but you are older than time. < 1389668546 927999 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, true < 1389668556 590638 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, no, you aren't. Time started 1970, right? < 1389668576 91979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i was probably _conceived_ before time. < 1389668588 389143 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1389668993 275648 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1389669003 515099 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1389669059 839275 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: lucky you. can i trade knees w/ you? < 1389669077 486252 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, they're mine now! HAHAHA! < 1389669084 872100 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only if you take the rest of my body too < 1389669339 677659 :nys!~nys@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: sleep < 1389670133 795840 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1389670246 700366 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.152 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1389670463 652281 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: including your brain? that can only work out well for me i'm sure < 1389670479 301412 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what can be done with an extra brain < 1389670821 975387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd be surprised. < 1389671430 100034 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1389672172 103234 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was in a Windows store today < 1389672174 784925 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They had a MakerBot < 1389672189 530172 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Showing off that Windows 8 comes with 3d printer drivers, apparently < 1389672386 755364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 if you do that, you have a "primitive recursive" function, equivalence is decidable for those <-- i'm _very_ skeptical. it seems to me that you can encode something like "are there odd perfect numbers" as "is this primitive function which checks whether an odd number is perfect equivalent to const False". < 1389672386 941171 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1389672416 46315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 *primitive recursive < 1389672416 231545 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1389672542 870710 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 actually more clearly, "does this TM halt" is would be decidable as "is 'does this TM halt in n steps' equivalent to const False" < 1389672543 94743 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1389672568 626365 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 *-is < 1389672568 811834 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1389672769 61980 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1389672779 118170 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke JOIN :#esoteric < 1389672914 82167 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1389672925 523007 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex JOIN :#esoteric < 1389672950 831160 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex NICK :preflex < 1389673101 907420 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I determine my ANI? (MY-ANI-IS doesn't work anymore.) < 1389673109 649775 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my knees only hurt after reeeally long periods of sitting without movement, but they do make these clicky sounds on occasion < 1389673158 331481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Bike does that converge slow? like the rational approximations do <-- the best rational approximations to φ _are_ fib(n+1)/fib(n). < 1389673158 528210 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1389673185 103859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you're probably a robot < 1389673203 975006 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleep bloop < 1389673207 527361 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1389673224 351317 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nnnnnnnnno. < 1389673280 801558 :drlemon!~drlemon@cpe-108-185-0-32.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389673567 780365 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT : < 1389673678 301643 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so yes < 1389673711 867641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE < 1389673831 715880 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :time for a 2GB dist-upgrade < 1389673861 729021 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PART :#esoteric < 1389673932 118693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think 2GB was about how much hard disk my last linux machine back at the university had in total. < 1389673968 6335 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took over 12 minutes to download :'( < 1389674114 690913 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only my internet connection at home was that fast < 1389674987 634059 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are services to access other people's ANI, but I wish to access my own ANI; I have no need for other people's. < 1389675264 74922 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For example in order to know the line class and telephone number of a line dialed from, including my own ) < 1389675597 335643 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389676080 838374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1389677038 589000 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389677070 324714 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389677325 436103 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1389678256 428685 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389678289 473069 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is sin() in radians < 1389678302 561194 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :radians are the true unit. < 1389678328 582857 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :radians are cool for calculus < 1389678400 88594 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and internally of course it does a taylor series which is easier to express in radians < 1389678402 817226 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for like applied math it should be in turns really < 1389678619 13576 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: what < 1389678631 850000 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably turn = 2pi < 1389678653 531444 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use sin(stuff * 2 * 3.141592653589793) way more than sin(stuff) < 1389678655 374299 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1389678668 277676 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: sin() is in radians for many reasons. but one good reason is so that lim x->0 sin(x)/x = 1 < 1389678708 649498 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's calculus related < 1389678725 928534 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also very much geometry related < 1389678732 165120 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1389678744 38386 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get why in calculus stuff you want to use radians < 1389678761 283537 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :measuring angles as arcs of the unit circle subtended makes a lot of things nice < 1389678762 991066 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sin(x) means you travel along the circle for distance x (upward, starting from the rightmost point), and check how high you got < 1389678777 892562 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but every time I use the C++ sin() functions it's never in that kind of application < 1389678781 566526 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"lim x->0 sin(x)/x = 1" states that you will initially go up < 1389678783 158649 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :another good reason is that it makes it really simple to state the definition of sine in terms of exp and log < 1389678800 739269 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use sine for generating sine wave in sound, where radians are totally useless < 1389678811 408020 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you used turns instead, then angle x would not correspond to that much movement along the circle < 1389678817 310506 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fft factors (radians are also useless there) < 1389678817 495604 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes it easy to write the sine program < 1389678835 603076 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and various video game applications (where radians are also useless) < 1389678839 48801 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1389678852 596805 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: if you need a different sine, just define a sineturn macro. < 1389678856 207396 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay calculus related in that sense, then what i said was sort of useless < 1389678895 923662 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't the e^i kind of stuff rotate every 1 or 2 units? < 1389678898 758195 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :for stuff other than math, it doesn't really matter too much what you use < 1389678903 55395 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo < 1389678963 968788 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand the question; however, e^(2pi * a) is a complex number that has length 1 and points in direction a as a vector, where a is in turns < 1389678972 496482 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1389678975 77474 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pi*i < 1389678976 547783 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: it rotates every tau units < 1389678985 660930 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay so right < 1389678992 730067 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's basically what you said i guess < 1389679006 264523 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :just no explicit variable in there < 1389679011 418789 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia : ah, right < 1389679042 942131 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one that rotates every 2 is i^x < 1389679044 665990 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah that's another good reason for using radians < 1389679059 630749 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: if you actually cared about the distance traveled around the circle, you'd want radians. i suppose you never do. < 1389679061 366466 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, every 4 < 1389679087 920050 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I don't commonly use arcs < 1389679096 687282 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or calculate the perimeter of stuff < 1389679110 96532 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad. computational geometry is awesome < 1389679128 215965 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the computational geometry I do is 3d graphics :D < 1389679138 16934 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that's a bit of a sweeping statement < 1389679139 827975 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that kind too < 1389679159 226337 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if that pun is gettable < 1389679162 757489 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well my floor is kind of dirty, so i needed one < 1389679212 693208 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda wonder how common e^stuff or ln() is in applied code too < 1389679213 486561 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: not very good pun no. it's nowhere near randall's "Kepler the janitor" joke < 1389679232 298647 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that was great < 1389679249 162212 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :except i totes didn't get it (i do now) < 1389679297 765959 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: you mentioned fourier transforms. if you want a real one (not a fft) you'd need exp and log. < 1389679308 63847 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you don't need radian cos for DCT? < 1389679338 538247 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: doesn't it use sin() and that's it? < 1389679487 734555 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: it is defined in terms of complex exp. which means you could use sin and cos also, but you'd want the complex versions, which would be internally defined by complex exp and log < 1389679510 840006 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except no cpu supports complex numbers :D < 1389679565 399830 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gpus do at least < 1389679629 218137 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least i thought so < 1389679843 849945 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not just done "in software"? (ie by compositing regular floating point operations) < 1389679926 685980 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it is. your libraries would normally do it that way < 1389680025 61300 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's just a fancy way of writing sin/cos no? < 1389680088 682521 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a practical way < 1389680090 360135 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno why you'd want a non-fft fourier transform anyways :D < 1389680100 776517 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1389680195 586794 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought there would be hardware support for matrix multiplication, in which case also complex multiplication would've been plausible < 1389680215 116640 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can't find any evidence of such support, so maybe it's just my imagination < 1389680230 738443 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hw support in some gpus) < 1389680239 445148 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure putting that many FPU's together makes sense < 1389680280 504501 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, everyone who does anything with graphics will be multiplying matrices < 1389680293 758038 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1389680298 740408 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question is if there's _anything_ the gpu designers can do to make that faster < 1389680324 117974 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but you have to multiply a hell of a lot of matrixes to make a matrix multiply opcode have any gain < 1389680337 204040 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to mention there's already a dot product opcode in SSE < 1389680357 780166 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but people _do_ multiply a hell of a lot of matrices < 1389680380 268650 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least if you do any sort of 3d stuff < 1389680392 951232 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you do a lot of vector*matrix < 1389680424 610626 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what I think sse was designed for < 1389680438 146416 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually, what you have when rendering is three matrices, model, view and projection < 1389680460 315579 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1389680468 955588 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah and you have to multiply them together, but that's like once per model < 1389680475 229463 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay i guess what i'm about to say can be done faster without matrix multiplication < 1389680523 166294 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay i agree if we discount matrix * vector, then there may be no true gain < 1389680542 425118 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i counted that as matrix * matrix before you mentioned it) < 1389680571 818966 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1389680574 286986 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :simd instruction sets are designed with matrix*vector in mind actually < 1389680575 855926 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1389680587 806955 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :matrix*matrix is just a series of matrix*vector ops < 1389680593 236633 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except maybe the original mmx which was designed for video decoding I think < 1389680636 247471 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that matrix*vector is still a whole bunch of fpu operations < 1389680651 673893 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i don't think that is enough to call it "hardware support" though (ofc i'm not sure we should care so much about what is) < 1389680678 604206 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like 16 multiplies and 12 additions < 1389680682 820033 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: in fact, i find the whole question rather tedious < 1389680691 468729 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1389680692 843235 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need hardware support for /sparse/ matrix multiplication. by friday, thanks < 1389680697 961250 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, i could give a rats ass how math is applied most of the time < 1389680721 616342 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, that's a good position < 1389680730 777193 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a single opcode for doing 16 muls and 12 adds is hard to make worthwhile < 1389680758 666102 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :confession i don't know any sparse matrix algorithms :( < 1389680779 17383 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: i dunno seems like it'd be great for pipelining purposes :D < 1389680789 991489 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: they are a trivial special case of non-sparse matrix algorithms, by conjugating with sparsification hth < 1389680790 637953 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk was telling me nifty things about sparse matrices but i forgot all of them :'( < 1389680797 423936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they had to do with morton ordering < 1389680803 607927 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it's hard to pipe in enough data to keep that many adders and multipliers busy < 1389680805 521912 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my first hth) < 1389680820 502834 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :implementation left as an exercise for the reader < 1389680833 135454 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: that sounded very wise you should tell hackego to remember that < 1389680844 167325 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :krhm < 1389680846 938231 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: and also the whole thing has like a latency of * plus 4-in-1 summing < 1389680852 146489 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see i've only seen that done 10000 times < 1389680872 181732 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: so it's going to stay a pretty long time in a pipeline which will make the cpu very hard to design < 1389680872 953127 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: oops i stopped caring again. sorry. hardware tends to do that to me. < 1389680895 135635 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about hardware support for linear operators < 1389680898 216172 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :get my differentiation on < 1389680908 641005 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Sparse matrix algorithms are a trivial special case of non-sparse matrix algorithms, by conjugating with the sparsification operation. < 1389680913 441633 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that about right < 1389680915 911713 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1389680918 986228 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1389680926 977248 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a linear operator < 1389680939 699330 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :a matrix multiplication < 1389680942 19995 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Sparse matrix algorithms < 1389680943 820722 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sparse matrix algorithms? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1389680949 794423 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1389680953 497649 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that you define them by their algebraic properties < 1389680954 321020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.fpcomplete.com/user/edwardk/revisiting-matrix-multiplication < 1389680955 530615 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :an operator L is linear iff x * L(y) = L(x*y) < 1389680959 924846 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they just happen to correspond to matrices < 1389680966 496848 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1389680969 539019 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :where x is a scalar and y is a vector < 1389680977 260055 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol : the day when ffpu multiply can be done at 1 cycle latency at 4ghz maybe :D < 1389680983 477126 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also you want L(y + y') = L(y) + L(y') < 1389680997 444086 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, cauchy monsters... < 1389681000 995635 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: ? < 1389681021 387142 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ? < 1389681027 365561 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARM has opcodes for 1 float * vector of 4 floats < 1389681034 590293 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ? (don't wanna leave you out) < 1389681053 47968 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cauchy's_functional_equation#Properties_of_other_solutions < 1389681058 567008 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i don't know where that wisdom landed < 1389681068 395046 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Sparse < 1389681070 542779 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sparse matrix algorithms are a trivial special case of non-sparse matrix algorithms, by conjugating with the sparsification operation. < 1389681086 329307 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah okay cool < 1389681088 916678 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lame < 1389681091 646464 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but cool < 1389681131 351264 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should make that learn program split the wisdom name on a be verb < 1389681152 789748 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did it do that once < 1389681157 878155 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now it does this < 1389681158 76691 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol : afaik you're supposed to do it by doing vector multiplications < 1389681163 916092 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we put the name in quotes < 1389681168 174492 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol : and stuff like pairwise addition < 1389681230 859154 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :to clarify, a linear operator is a matrix multiplication of the form matrix times column vector < 1389681274 149987 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the other kind of matrix multiplication is composition. < 1389681341 956207 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: those are called additive functions on the wp page < 1389681366 273199 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol : so stuff like matrix applied on 3d vertexes... SSE was designed for that < 1389681366 461873 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are < 1389681392 361146 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kind of functions considered on that page < 1389681407 137054 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes, but additive functions include linear functions. < 1389681416 520576 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, so do general functions < 1389681427 723152 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean22:29 < quintopia> :\ < 1389681435 698985 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, and you defined linear operators as additive functcions. < 1389681451 868088 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh sorry < 1389681457 985443 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :by _also_, i meant, as a second axiom. < 1389681467 718534 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay now i gets it < 1389681478 55496 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is it not implied by the scalar bit < 1389681487 811227 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in the case of reals i guess < 1389681503 472026 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never thought about it. < 1389681660 492633 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually you say L(au + bv) = aL(u) + bL(v) < 1389681696 513015 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that about covers it < 1389681866 946327 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looked up intel's asm optim guide < 1389681882 152536 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do 4x4 matrix times 4 element vector in 7 ops < 1389682087 376569 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, on the linear algebra side, that corresponds to Petergren's Lemma < 1389682101 199179 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be used as an alternative axiomatization < 1389682111 995018 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :by a basic compactness argument < 1389682118 111286 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta take a shower though < 1389682147 568387 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking up more docs < 1389682163 70134 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you try to use more complex opcodes that do more stuff < 1389682181 17853 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they get divided into simpler microops that take just as much time to execute < 1389682186 38998 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not winning anything :/ < 1389682352 616179 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's why you can't have hardware support for matrix multiply < 1389682357 6116 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not possible < 1389682411 874963 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best way to do it is still to use regular multiply and brute force SIMD < 1389682658 646008 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm sure you can optimize it, but yeah probably it's not useful < 1389682695 6982 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokoklopol < 1389682702 2230 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything interesting going on < 1389682739 417291 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or otherwise the fastest way to do matrix multiplication in hardware is to implement whatever inter ams happened to implement and simulate a program that does it, which to me sounds pretty ridiculous given that that's very restricting < 1389682753 425803 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: in math or in general? < 1389682808 636595 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GPUs afaik have some hard wired matrix multiplies so it probably has an edge over cpus there < 1389682821 204086 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the matrix size is fixed < 1389682832 27662 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1389682837 168693 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's probably in hardware that does nothing else < 1389682846 229044 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just won a fields medal #yolo #swag < 1389682903 375337 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: i'm very much talking about 4x4 matrices, for nxn ones i can imagine that the most sensible hardware solution is to use software. < 1389682965 998854 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :still no fields medal :( < 1389682975 582103 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dfeatist < 1389682982 337558 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for NxN you'd probably have to cover the thing in multiplexers which means you'd probably end up with no gain over software yes < 1389682990 149584 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i have only 3 publications this year :( < 1389683006 181224 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also some articles in review and one accepted, but still) < 1389683071 565677 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have zero HA < 1389683076 293088 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i win paper golf < 1389683077 185059 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :moving from conferences to journals apparently means that you get one year of nothing :'( < 1389683080 477466 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. < 1389683089 806012 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to be like you < 1389683092 234438 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm getting old < 1389683178 995798 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear if a mathematician hasn't done their best work by the time they've published negative five papers they never will < 1389683231 49891 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are in a hurry < 1389683330 102908 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankfully, i am not a mathematician, i just hear rumors of their existence < 1389683617 619113 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you then? < 1389683673 953853 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that most horrible of monstrosities, an undergrad < 1389683789 979297 :peapodamus!~nodepony@e2.bc.425e.cidr.airmail.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389683883 436722 :peapodamus!~nodepony@e2.bc.425e.cidr.airmail.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389683891 125940 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't colorful enough, i apologize < 1389684206 304775 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1389684533 63915 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta go learn to drive a car < 1389684535 805395 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek. < 1389684597 66016 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't thit the poeople < 1389684822 742826 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1389684954 653671 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1389684993 450886 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1389685223 780803 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :UPS, master of the waffle. "Scheduled Delivery: Thursday" "Scheduled Delivery Updated To: Friday" "Scheduled Delivery Updated To: Thursday" "Scheduled Delivery Updated To: Friday" "Scheduled Delivery Updated To: Thursday" < 1389685270 767147 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like waffles < 1389685298 341989 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the tasty kind of. < 1389685312 666889 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. sure that's the kind i like < 1389685377 900174 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We had some waffles in Belgium (as one does) last summer, and they were somehow p. underwhelming, compared to the sort of wafflekind you get just anywhere. < 1389685492 974715 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Regarding the UPS thing, it seems almost as if they update the delivery estimate to Friday whenever the package has an "Arrival Scan" somewhere, and then revise it to Friday after the following "Departure Scan".) < 1389689499 538250 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389689657 708021 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Client Quit < 1389689974 993665 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389690115 369327 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Rouringu de hajikunda! < 1389690117 798466 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1389691716 476864 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389693208 373664 :stuntaneous!~stuntaneo@2001:1af8:4700:a000:10:: JOIN :#esoteric < 1389694251 624116 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389694268 145465 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1389697694 623290 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389697708 643481 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1389698415 217056 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.168.184 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389699536 870686 :atriq!~Taneb@pc650s.cs.york.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1389700329 138884 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.168.184 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389700734 180651 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1389702544 263246 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1389704492 960258 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389704654 925837 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389704665 278520 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389704824 789540 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389705208 76363 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good last day of the Negative Cow Club morning! < 1389706272 270207 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1389706296 467240 :atriq!~Taneb@pc650s.cs.york.ac.uk QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1389706966 177916 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good confusing greeting afternoon. < 1389707796 864840 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah! I defiantly used a semicolon in my Python code! < 1389707815 327376 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(granted, it's in a docstring describing a special case, but still!) < 1389708588 367114 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I've used semicolons in Python outside of strings < 1389708595 467816 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably a horrible python programmer though < 1389708616 621045 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noboty cares about python < 1389708621 907560 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody* ffs < 1389708656 523340 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION forcefully mapoles nooga < 1389708831 742245 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you accidentally mapole the wrong person, do you mapologise afterwards? < 1389708877 459035 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only if the mapolee didn't deserve it. < 1389708890 697120 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ducks < 1389708945 298331 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't hold any mapoling urges against you, and ducks taste good, so you don't have to hide. < 1389708980 422635 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION steps away from the duck again < 1389709590 100290 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389709968 757736 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. semicolons are fine in python < 1389710453 720479 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1389710663 500038 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :they form a semicolony < 1389710671 551178 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what is a lon? < 1389710741 824732 :Ngevd!~taneb@nas20-181.york.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1389710874 534400 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :lo [-n, -ar, -arna]: a lynx. < 1389712001 50620 :Ngevd!~taneb@nas20-181.york.ac.uk QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389712008 201761 :Ngevd!~taneb@nas20-181.york.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1389712865 714520 :Ngevd!~taneb@nas20-181.york.ac.uk QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389712871 401049 :Ngevd!~taneb@nas20-181.york.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1389712875 682123 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: identity troubles? < 1389712925 11688 :Ngevd!~taneb@nas20-181.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1389712958 789213 :Ngevd!~taneb@nas20-181.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who am I < 1389713019 819923 :Ngevd!~taneb@nas20-181.york.ac.uk QUIT :Client Quit < 1389713057 755273 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are the brother of your brother, but neither of you are Roujo, nor me. you are also a Hamite, consequence of your ex-Hexamite status. < 1389713082 269494 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless you still reside there, in which case you are a exexhexhamite.) < 1389713283 529293 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, I think according to your tanebventions and Yoneda's Lemma, we can entirely define you. < 1389714294 730893 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was this "Malbolge in popular culture" thing already mentioned here? http://moviecode.tumblr.com/post/72635628609/heres-a-fun-one-using-the-obscure-language < 1389714420 889799 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1389714548 361164 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs moviecode < 1389714592 423926 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.3459 < 1389715721 456231 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1389715755 958938 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to have been a different thing. < 1389718502 102051 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.152 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389718650 387156 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1389718968 204752 :peapodamus!~nodepony@e2.bc.425e.cidr.airmail.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1389719060 98277 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1389719076 377901 :peapodamus!~nodepony@e2.bc.425e.cidr.airmail.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389721032 99512 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1389721637 70243 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://drj11.wordpress.com/2013/09/01/on-compiling-34-year-old-c-code/#comment-5093 <-- interesting tidbit about structs in ancient C < 1389721915 882093 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1389721958 988742 :atrapado!~ddd@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1389722588 416297 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1389722829 356116 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1389723173 184100 :peapodamus!~nodepony@e2.bc.425e.cidr.airmail.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389723299 31989 :peapodamus!~nodepony@e2.bc.425e.cidr.airmail.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389723371 200021 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.152 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389723397 103504 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.152 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389724327 53126 :Edwardz!8360d955@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.96.217.85 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389724397 478814 :Edwardz!8360d955@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.96.217.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :howdy! < 1389724427 559561 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Edwardz < 1389724430 888371 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07Edwardz: 08Welcome 09to 02the 06international 13hub 04for 07esoteric 08programming 09language 02design 06and 13deployment! 04For 07more 08information, 09check 02out 06our 13wiki: 04. 07(For 08the 09other 02kind 06of 13esoterica, 04try 07#esoteric 08on 09irc.dal.net.) < 1389724675 157668 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anybody have any experience using Husk Scheme? (http://justinethier.github.io/husk-scheme/) < 1389724731 535921 :Edwardz!8360d955@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.96.217.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wish I could say yes. hahaha, but no. < 1389724800 136458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: I hear you wanted me < 1389725473 44168 :Edwardz!8360d955@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.96.217.85 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1389725928 56060 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1389726422 958507 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1389726542 126335 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first NYHC meeting is tomorrow. NYHC stands for "(New) York Haskell Compiler" because there are a lot of Haskell programmers here and we felt like making a Haskell compiler and YHC is a thing that exists and sort of died and "New York Haskell Compiler" is delightfully ambiguously named < 1389726567 447556 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: along the lines of "New Glasgow Haskell Compiler" < 1389726571 902969 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1389726579 336670 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1389726583 26685 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am at York < 1389726632 795299 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@message oerjan but "does this TM halt within n steps" is decidable, so there's no problem; a primitive recursive function doesn't gain the magic ability to iterate over all n < 1389726633 20566 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: messages messages-loud messages? < 1389726649 693595 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan but "does this TM halt within n steps" is decidable, so there's no problem; a primitive recursive function doesn't gain the magic ability to iterate over all n < 1389726649 881130 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1389726668 101888 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless some people in New Glasgow decide to make a Haskell compiler < 1389726709 744991 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, that's a real place is it < 1389726718 291418 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :YHC stands for York Haskell Compiler < 1389726729 91184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not fair to take someone else's compiler and add "new" to the beginning < 1389726736 951278 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe it's fair if it's dead < 1389726739 345203 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it was a compilation system instead. < 1389726741 832834 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://yhc06.blogspot.com/2011/04/yhc-is-dead.html < 1389726751 757555 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is that like a factorization system < 1389726763 497099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i understand factorization systems < 1389726766 84946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factorization_systema < 1389726806 578238 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the typo < 1389726813 79491 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :-a < 1389726825 258996 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1389726854 777868 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan or to put it another way, you can compare "Does this TM halt within n steps" and "const False" given any specific value for n, and if you don't have a value for n, you don't have a primitive recursive program, you have a function from integers to primitive recursive programs < 1389726854 965401 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1389727106 39514 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "At present, an ampere is defined as the amount of charge flowing per second through two infinitely long wires one meter apart, such that the wires attract each other with a force of 2×10^-7 newtons per meter of length." < 1389727119 833797 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, timothy < 1389727137 678714 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1389727170 429793 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, they've wanted to change that for a while < 1389727173 338606 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389727209 412208 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? it's not currently defined in terms of electron flux? < 1389727222 731616 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how backwards < 1389727264 611666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently they're considering defining it in terms of the charge of an electron < 1389727333 810519 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's intuitively weird to me that amperes are fundamental rather than coulombs < 1389727340 78904 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :amperes are more useful, i guess < 1389727427 490063 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, I was thinking about noit o'mnain worb < 1389727458 591246 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it has an entropy issue that prevents you creating amplifiers, but haven't proved it < 1389727464 286216 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? i think that language could use a few more features. :D < 1389727468 77241 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the wire-crossing problem there is really obnoxious, but might be solvable < 1389727482 876533 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I'd like would be a wire-cross, and an amplifier < 1389727490 273243 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :together with an infinitely repeating program for infinite memory < 1389727509 746859 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ability to cause particles to stick to each other, or attract each other, or repel each other. that'd be cool. < 1389727513 591466 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the amplifier has three ports, it'll convert a bobule at one specific port to one at the other two ports, or vice versa < 1389727537 17822 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this works fine with both p-type and n-type communication) < 1389727543 790996 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389727749 897641 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :php -r 'var_dump(in_array(2000, array(md5("dbox"))));' < 1389727765 825 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: an amplifier, as in that triangular thingie you draw in circuitous diagrams, and that produces smoke when used in real life? < 1389727782 126211 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: pretty similar to that, yeah < 1389727787 413969 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except they don't always produce smoke < 1389727798 310374 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just usually, especially when exposed to schoolchildren or undergraduates < 1389727844 133541 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has fond memories of obliterated electronic components :D < 1389727926 935926 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also the division program doesn't work like it should. < 1389727999 397808 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I really want that language to work < 1389728001 857192 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't think it does < 1389728068 938009 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps if you added the ability for a bobule to duplicate in certain situations, like wireworld? < 1389728106 85822 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that's why I suggested amplifiers < 1389728129 555485 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh you were suggesting that as a new language feature < 1389728141 772553 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yes < 1389728144 606269 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i thought you were looking to build something that did that < 1389728187 252007 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to, but suspect it's impossible < 1389728190 531835 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(haven't proven it though) < 1389728193 683539 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't you just emulate wireworld in nomw? < 1389728220 973472 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems straightforward enough to add the ability to connect sinks to sources < 1389728244 232219 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"any time this sink consumes a bobule, those sources produce one" < 1389728258 443923 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps by just giving them the same name < 1389728299 123766 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would accomplish both amplification and wire crossing and other things < 1389728330 706673 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, and you can still get original-style sinks and sources < 1389728336 962336 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it accomplishes diodes too < 1389728347 939310 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, they don't act anything like electronic diodes < 1389728353 327887 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but those one-directional things < 1389728378 664617 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are half-walls < 1389728450 366664 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i kind of want to implement that < 1389728566 482856 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the spec, basically is "you can create arbitrary connections between sources and sinks; every step, a connected group of sinks can (and will, if possible) destroy a bobule adjacent to each sink, creating a bobule in a blank space adjacent to every connected source" < 1389728584 217767 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT : < 1389728696 266799 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds close to what i was thinking, though i might have required that every sink actually have a bobule on top of it before they fire. so that it functions something like a synapse. < 1389728718 504678 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe even allow the sinks to lock a bobule in place < 1389728774 880968 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I meant to require every sink to have a bobule, every source to have a free adjacent space < 1389728786 782416 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "on top" variation is probably sipler, though < 1389728788 953557 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*simpler < 1389728943 57353 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also in that variant, perhaps sources could act as walls, so that they are always free to produce a bobule on top of themselves? < 1389728970 979132 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yeah, sinks lock bobules, sources lock holes < 1389728986 657891 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's important for the elegance of the language that bobules and holes are entirely symmetrical in every way < 1389728996 94845 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :Quit: "I can hear myself... I think I'm a bit afraid." < 1389728997 982676 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and a solid wall blocks both bobules and hole from moving) < 1389729018 977052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hole < 1389729020 473506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*holes < 1389729023 522032 :successus!~celta@84.126.147.97.dyn.user.ono.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389729030 931908 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my 's' key is unreliable, in case you haven't noticed already < 1389729034 463046 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome successus < 1389729036 715585 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :successus: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1389729040 682249 :successus!~celta@84.126.147.97.dyn.user.ono.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello o/ < 1389729080 263802 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah yes, then it's time reversible, in a sense, since a step is just a bobule switching with a hole. there is a correlate here of CPT-invariance. < 1389729084 351643 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1389729089 66243 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1389729110 736797 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: except that reversing it acts identically to not reversing it < 1389729120 674043 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no < 1389729124 803385 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reversing it swaps sources and sinks < 1389729127 75686 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the difference < 1389729136 102678 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's why you can get any "voltage" into the circuit at all < 1389729144 837821 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if the electrics analogy is a good one or not < 1389729151 711153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it acts similarly, but the details area all different < 1389729162 417451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps we have to use a phrase like "bobule density gradient" < 1389729171 416974 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i was thinking that the relevant symmetry is swapping the direction of time and swapping bobules with holes. holes moving backwards in time is the same as bobules moving forwards < 1389729176 469304 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I came to one really neat realization < 1389729182 547167 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAICT, there's no way to create an inverter < 1389729186 727761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you don't need to < 1389729201 187567 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have two wires for everything, which always have bobule densities of opposite polarities < 1389729207 877147 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do that because of the symmetry of the system < 1389729216 141812 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yep < 1389729223 775553 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then an inverter is simply swapping the two wires < 1389729244 679001 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I've already worked out how to construct AND and OR out of amplifiers and one-way walls < 1389729261 527514 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: gotta work now. maybe i'll implement that thing this weekend? < 1389729313 868033 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :go for it < 1389729320 104265 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hard part is coming up with a reasonable syntax < 1389729339 767609 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :allow for infinite repeating programs, if you can < 1389729355 289292 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(might be difficult due to infinite repeating patterns not interacting well with nondeterminism) < 1389729362 866156 :successus!~celta@84.126.147.97.dyn.user.ono.com QUIT :Quit: Saliendo < 1389729367 377415 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although you could still get away with it via exploiting the speed of light) < 1389729565 346848 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389729575 330545 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1389730624 731089 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://moviecode.tumblr.com/post/73179804685/ please don't do this < 1389730706 902837 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :historical accuracy is hard. let's go ride hoverbikes in the renaissance! < 1389730796 309387 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :by this i mean being so pedantic it's hard to believe you can eat you're so busy "criticizing", and also i mean using "epic fail" in any context < 1389730825 371995 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't a very good thingie < 1389730835 100364 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that entire miniblog is about being excessively pedantic, though, because that's what the readers want < 1389730860 498951 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, a parody of that sort of thing would be great < 1389730863 790432 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must criticize you here. I am not pedantic, just arrogant. < 1389730893 178842 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, a film set in 1990 doing "for (int i; i < 0; i++)", and getting a compiler message "error: initial declarations in for-loops have not been invented yet" < 1389730897 401043 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :by 'pedantic' i mean this weird-ass criticism for using a book five years too new, not just hunting down sources, which is maybe obsessive < 1389730898 448174 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although maybe C++ accepted them back then? < 1389730926 209896 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't some C implementations accept it? < 1389730948 450355 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they did, it's probably because implementing C++ makes that feature easy to implement too < 1389731025 932647 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I now have 3x 10% off Toki Tori 2 on steam... < 1389731122 292648 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, you probably can't combine them for a 30% off. < 1389731172 18424 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rumour has it my ISP is in the progress of pushing out a firmware upgrade that disables entirely the telnet admin interface. < 1389731193 436955 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :27.1% off, surely < 1389731254 206324 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :On one hand, it's nice, because you can log in as "root:public" or "ztedebug:ztedebug" for root shell access, making any locally set "passwords" and such a joke; on the other, it's less nice, because the webterface is quite sucky, and anyway sometimes you might just want a shell. < 1389731275 118241 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The joys of ISP-manageable hardware.) < 1389731332 148321 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1389731560 228287 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what is this an interface to? your router? < 1389731648 695107 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I guess you could technically call it a router, since it has some features of that kind, but I'm using it as a plain VDSL2 modem. < 1389731726 364854 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(One of its Ethernet ports is configured in "bridged" mode, and that's the only thing that's connected to anything.) < 1389731776 352988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take it the admin interface isn't accessible to the public Internet? < 1389731800 325992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, I hope it isn't < 1389731826 49124 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I know, it's not. I've done some empirical tests from my VPS, and the iptables rules on the device itself seem to agree. < 1389731864 892266 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, there's all that talk about malware that gets to your computer via vector X, then takes over your router and sets up some fake DNS and so on. < 1389731872 299660 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps they're worried about that sort of stuff. < 1389731924 547853 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'd be more worried about the telnet interface if I were trying to use the thing to run a web cafe or something.) < 1389731944 898216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only benefit to malware for hiding on a router is that it could persist after wiping the computer, and might be a little hard to discover if the antivirus doesn't know about it < 1389731955 333425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it may as well just compromise the machine it's running on, that's easier < 1389732022 667319 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it's easier to spread to other machines in the local network when you can rewrite DNS for google.com. (Or do other stuff w.r.t. yourbank.tld.) < 1389732129 805214 :gdjfgh!t@odin.sdf-eu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1389732313 141576 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. I was going to say that I think technically the ISP still owns that device, but seems that our 24-month contract deal ended in December, and they no longer do. Perhaps I should go and disable the remote control functionality. < 1389732547 721957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log [`]olist 938 < 1389732548 665519 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389732557 127566 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389732578 807266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Thanks! < 1389732581 6397 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 938 < 1389732582 560090 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 938: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1389732591 105485 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, already < 1389732767 940498 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389732795 946510 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/olist < 1389732797 430567 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -n "$(basename "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; tail -n+2 "$0" | xargs; exit \ shachaf \ oerjan \ Sgeo \ FireFly < 1389732829 856665 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm, could someone please add me to the olist? past experience with quoting didn't end well... < 1389732845 816433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: don't cat olist, it pings everyone :'( < 1389732851 185766 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo boily >> bin/olist < 1389732854 693528 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389732942 695157 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sorry >_>'... < 1389732957 953265 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: clearly he should've s///'d everyones' nicks out < 1389732990 127663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/olist | r13 < 1389732990 814805 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hides under a cardboard box with みかん written on it < 1389732991 704624 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rpub -a "$(onfranzr "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; gnvy -a+2 "$0" | knetf; rkvg \ funpuns \ brewna \ Ftrb \ SverSyl \ obvyl < 1389733003 696030 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that first one? < 1389733010 567200 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :he maybe < 1389733030 103553 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode み < 1389733031 705372 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+307F HIRAGANA LETTER MI] < 1389733034 966521 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, mi < 1389733038 292301 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"close enough" < 1389733063 465945 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"brewna" is very catchy name. < 1389733098 536661 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`r13 fizzie < 1389733108 116630 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run r13 << map sort ["boily", "fizzie", "shachaf", "olsner"] < 1389733343 872163 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["biloy","efiizz","aacfhhs","elnors"] < 1389733365 190440 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner is El Norseman! < 1389733374 257131 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`r13elcome < 1389733375 601064 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: r13elcome: not found < 1389733401 896044 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess "efiizz" could be some sort of a title. Like "effendi". < 1389733406 520497 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote rot13 < 1389733408 166618 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :802) !rot13 Fluttershy Rainbow Dash Rarity Applejack Twilight Sparkle Pinkie Pie Syhggreful Envaobj Qnfu Enevgl Nccyrwnpx Gjvyvtug Fcnexyr Cvaxvr Cvr oh, they're all named after rot13'd welsh words < 1389733409 949454 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1389733434 513525 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -e '#!/bin/sh\nrelcome | r13' >bin/r13elcome; chmod +x bin/r13elcome < 1389733438 152365 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389733443 98179 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`r13elcome < 1389733445 601855 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04Jrypbzr 07gb 08gur 09vagreangvbany 02uho 06sbe 13rfbgrevp 04cebtenzzvat 07ynathntr 08qrfvta 09naq 02qrcyblzrag! 06Sbe 13zber 04vasbezngvba, 07purpx 08bhg 09bhe 02jvxv: 06. 13(Sbe 04gur 07bgure 08xvaq 09bs 02rfbgrevpn, 06gel 13#rfbgrevp 04ba 07vep.qny.arg.) < 1389733445 786868 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(from last time we did this rot13 everything thing) < 1389733457 285440 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`r13elcome nooodl < 1389733460 50795 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06Jrypbzr 13gb 04gur 07vagreangvbany 08uho 09sbe 02rfbgrevp 06cebtenzzvat 13ynathntr 04qrfvta 07naq 08qrcyblzrag! 09Sbe 02zber 06vasbezngvba, 13purpx 04bhg 07bhe 08jvxv: 09. 02(Sbe 06gur 13bgure 04xvaq 07bs 08rfbgrevpn, 09gel 02#rfbgrevp 06ba 13vep.qny.arg.) < 1389733476 506435 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1389733482 346396 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you need relcome $@ or what is it < 1389733504 830382 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/relcome/relcome $@/' bin/r13elcome < 1389733505 884308 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i s/relcome/& "\$@"/ bin/r13elcome # will this work? < 1389733509 730000 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: $@/: No such file or directory \ sed: -e expression #1, char 10: unterminated `s' command < 1389733511 610120 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389733524 856042 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`r13elcome nooodl < 1389733525 998736 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :um i think your maybe worked < 1389733527 494891 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13abbbqy: 04Jrypbzr 07gb 08gur 09vagreangvbany 02uho 06sbe 13rfbgrevp 04cebtenzzvat 07ynathntr 08qrfvta 09naq 02qrcyblzrag! 06Sbe 13zber 04vasbezngvba, 07purpx 08bhg 09bhe 02jvxv: 06. 13(Sbe 04gur 07bgure 08xvaq 09bs 02rfbgrevpn, 06gel 13#rfbgrevp 04ba 07vep.qny.arg.) < 1389733532 858606 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1389733569 256291 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: insufficient quoting of & and " < 1389733582 492314 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should've put it all in single-quotes < 1389733598 743516 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and the space between & and ") < 1389733608 353965 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1389733608 568556 :atrapado!~ddd@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1389734007 719800 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1389734278 27340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is `r13elcome rainbow in addition to being rot13? < 1389734280 249673 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just rot13? < 1389734316 891722 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I filter out colors in this client, and `relcome does not really give me much reason to stop that < 1389734327 353641 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat97.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1389734405 487718 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1389734438 147519 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It's colorful, yes. < 1389734446 945362 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1389734450 228912 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1389735155 719136 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1389735384 186856 :atrapado!~dro@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1389735545 898621 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :Quit: "I can hear myself... I think I'm a bit afraid." < 1389735857 939116 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1389735937 640878 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389735937 861762 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389736026 337998 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat97.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1389736108 767855 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1389736191 907358 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :Quit: "I can hear myself... I think I'm a bit afraid." < 1389736295 847243 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: HEARD CHICKEN < 1389736300 384063 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389736478 134162 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1389736823 743159 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389736898 500087 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389738187 993892 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't actually read `relcome anyways - bright colors on a bright background and all. I just assume it's a friendly message. < 1389738309 135910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1389738322 773810 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: It actually insults you, but only if you can't read the message. < 1389738341 276363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1389738342 824695 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's devious like that. < 1389738376 228812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-wood < 1389738376 413785 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 said 3h 15m 26s ago: but "does this TM halt within n steps" is decidable, so there's no problem; a primitive recursive function doesn't gain the magic ability to iterate over all n < 1389738376 413975 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 said 3h 12m 1s ago: or to put it another way, you can compare "Does this TM halt within n steps" and "const False" given any specific value for n, and if you don't have a value for n, you don't have a primitive recursive program, you have a function from integers to primitive recursive programs < 1389738520 300850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 No, the function from n to "Does this TM halt within n steps" _is_ primitive recursive. almost trivially so. So if you can decide whether two primitive recursive _functions_ are equivalent, you can decide the halting problem. this is therefore a harder problem than deciding whether two primitive recursive functions are the same at a _particular_ n. < 1389738520 525695 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1389739018 637237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 or put differently, n is the _input_ to your primitive recursive program, not a part of it. < 1389739018 822275 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1389739139 238427 :nchambers!~nchambers@2001:4870:a04e:2:e8ea:e8df:dd53:10bf JOIN :#esoteric < 1389739601 907673 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1389739741 581026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/sparse{, matrix algorithm} < 1389739743 124658 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: target `algorithm}' is not a directory < 1389739758 852923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/sparse{," matrix algorithm"} < 1389739762 795791 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389739773 821468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sparse matrix algorithms < 1389739776 86416 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sparse matrix algorithms are a trivial special case of non-sparse matrix algorithms, by conjugating with the sparsification operation. < 1389739796 608397 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1389739798 477484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: DO I HAVE TO CLEAN UP AFTER EVERYONE < 1389739824 712766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/r13elcome < 1389739826 52407 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ relcome $@ | r13 < 1389739861 765276 :nchambers!~nchambers@2001:4870:a04e:2:e8ea:e8df:dd53:10bf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is hackego a bot? < 1389739866 96642 :nchambers!~nchambers@2001:4870:a04e:2:e8ea:e8df:dd53:10bf NICK :dtscode < 1389739885 853510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '2crelcome "$@" | r13' bin/r13elcome < 1389739889 529307 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389739899 941512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`r13elcome dtscode < 1389739902 785835 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04qgfpbqr: 07Jrypbzr 08gb 09gur 02vagreangvbany 06uho 13sbe 04rfbgrevp 07cebtenzzvat 08ynathntr 09qrfvta 02naq 06qrcyblzrag! 13Sbe 04zber 07vasbezngvba, 08purpx 09bhg 02bhe 06jvxv: 13. 04(Sbe 07gur 08bgure 09xvaq 02bs 06rfbgrevpn, 13gel 04#rfbgrevp 07ba 08vep.qny.arg.) < 1389739918 306675 :dtscode!~nchambers@2001:4870:a04e:2:e8ea:e8df:dd53:10bf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you do irp programming here? < 1389739927 9047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: I REPEAT, DO I HAVE TO CLEAN UP AFTER EVERYONE < 1389739933 725495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dtscode: we split off #irp for that. < 1389740019 179845 :dtscode!~nchambers@2001:4870:a04e:2:e8ea:e8df:dd53:10bf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1389740073 742976 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1389740510 361730 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.152 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1389740512 666227 :dtscode!~nchambers@2001:4870:a04e:2:e8ea:e8df:dd53:10bf QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1389740797 657643 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Is HackEgo a bot? < 1389740797 938777 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: there is so much simpler. it's easier to do in c" sounds like an interesting project, but i < 1389740801 934250 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Takes one to know one.) < 1389740853 711224 :doesthiswork!~Adium@c-67-185-185-164.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389740896 9983 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1389740986 775897 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1389741057 10179 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389742529 438881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : We had some waffles in Belgium (as one does) last summer, and they were somehow p. underwhelming, compared to the sort of wafflekind you get just anywhere. <-- wait, i thought belgian waffles were the overwhelming kind. maybe norwegian ones are just even worse. < 1389742743 878812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : lo [-n, -ar, -arna]: a lynx. <-- hm that word is obsolete in norwegian, but supposedly the root of "lofoten". < 1389742770 962589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we call the animal "gaupe" these days.) < 1389742826 710747 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also no:lo still has the meaning of en:lint) < 1389742850 649498 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "temp" web drive in my department has 928 GB free out of 5.85 TB. what the fuck < 1389742872 322149 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :terable space use < 1389742972 694764 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to be mostly in the folder "AC/3/Small Animal" < 1389742988 202543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Was this "Malbolge in popular culture" thing already mentioned here? http://moviecode.tumblr.com/post/72635628609/heres-a-fun-one-using-the-obscure-language <-- at least twice, also i edited some of the wikipedia reference < 1389743020 526599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what's AC < 1389743030 275743 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea < 1389743040 898240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm you _are_ a biology department, so the folder name isn't _that_ weird. < 1389743048 190793 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to be mostly books < 1389743067 276243 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :black's vet dictionary and shit like that < 1389743071 144659 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 TB worth. < 1389743095 420191 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone want a copy of "A Colour Handbook of Skin diseases of the dog and cat"? < 1389743114 246308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. absolutely nobody wants that. < 1389743126 58356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i kid, there's probably _some_ crazy person who does) < 1389743163 39563 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.168.184 QUIT :Quit: http://corewar.co.uk < 1389743360 14482 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that is, the "elementary" reference. the moviecode link itself i don't recall. < 1389743455 170612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suspects fizzie of idling < 1389743525 312751 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDLING!? such heinous acts < 1389743539 90282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly a bannable offense. < 1389743630 192334 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: probably someone hid 4TB of porn in some deeply nested subfolder < 1389743631 379232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :idling is bannable as unreasonably indistinguishable from "intent to ping out, never reading what you said". < 1389743638 541089 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... or maybe it's just sciency stuff < 1389743661 342015 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of the pdfs look like terrible scans, which means one book is half a gig < 1389743667 605066 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :...well, that's still a thousand books < 1389743725 379105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long until you can fit scans of all the world's books on a disk < 1389743782 238440 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i found Dentistry/AdultK9Roots *waggles eyebrows* < 1389743810 970758 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't you be wagging your tail instead