00:01:48 -!- atrapado has quit (Quit: Bye). 00:20:25 olsner: what's a swedish rabbit who thinks everyone should listen to a bit of carmina burana 00:21:20 hmmmmm i have some bacon wrapped filets mignon in my freezer hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 00:22:19 2 lazy 2 cook 00:24:07 * oerjan thinks olsner might be idle. 00:25:22 i want to know the answer! 00:25:40 even though you don't know swedish? 00:26:12 that's a risk i'll just have to take 00:26:27 it's "lagom orff" hth 00:27:09 whoa, whoa, whoa, did you know that monomorphisms and epimorphisms are both a form of injectivity thing 00:27:17 ie injective and surjective functions 00:27:42 in particular "f is injective" means "(f .) is injective" and "f is surjective" means "(. f) is injective" 00:28:10 whoa 00:29:41 (except this works in any category, not just (->), otherwise it would be a silly definition) 00:30:10 -!- prooftechnique has joined. 00:30:31 and when they're surjective you get something stronger (but backwards) 00:30:34 shachaf: it disturbs me that two of your three commas are bolded 00:31:02 do bold spaces disturb you 00:31:06 no 00:31:13 the whole phrase is bolded. "whoa, whoa, whoa" is atomic 00:31:49 anyway if (f .) is surjective then f has a left inverse?? and (. f) -> right inverse? or something like that 00:31:50 I'm a Cablevisionary! 00:32:56 (Note: I'm not actually that excited about the cutesy name for Cablevision employees) 00:33:03 I just discovered that my classic, 81 Mercedes C123 coupe has its left wind welded into the ramp 00:35:01 i keep thinking that you are nooodl and then i realize that you are not nooodl so who even are you 00:35:07 names are confusing 00:35:17 sigh 00:35:29 grep logs 00:35:32 but nooodl would never say a thing like that. what's a wind anyway 00:35:42 wing* 00:35:51 i can't grep logs. no logs 00:36:04 http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ ? 00:36:12 no grep 00:36:31 wget them all and then can and grep 00:36:31 -!- glogbackup has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:36:34 cat* 00:36:36 ffs 00:36:49 what would i discover 00:37:06 hichaf 00:37:15 what IS a wind 00:37:22 wing 00:37:45 nooodl: we just don't know 00:37:45 hth 00:38:17 shachaf: you'll discover that I haunted this # for a long time 00:38:36 9-10 years maybe 00:38:50 i don't disbelieve you 00:38:55 cool 00:38:57 what about it 00:39:14 oh just grep the logs and infer who am I from it 00:41:49 wait 00:42:15 maybe this isn't the best idea 00:43:22 anyway, who's noodl? 00:43:46 anyway if (f .) is surjective then f has a left inverse?? and (. f) -> right inverse? or something like that 00:43:53 sounds about right 00:44:10 getting identity and getting everything seems equivalent 00:45:54 (Note: I'm not actually that excited about the cutesy name for Cablevision employees) <-- do you have a company anthem twh 00:47:30 gob gob 00:47:42 shachaf: nooga is the pole, that's easy to remember. 00:47:48 ha! 00:48:01 oerjan never fails 00:48:03 we've had other poles in here 00:48:06 or have we? 00:48:08 asiekierka? 00:49:28 shachaf: tbh i don't know who are you, you must be new here then 00:50:05 yes, i'm new 00:50:12 `? nooodl 00:50:14 noooodl is the correct spelling 00:50:22 `? noooodl 00:50:24 noooodl? ¯$°_o)/¯ 00:50:28 :'( 00:51:16 imo add a special case to bin/? for no+dl 00:51:32 there is one, but maybe not in the sense you want 00:51:46 you mean the one for output? 00:51:50 yeah 00:51:54 that is not no+dl 00:52:14 `cat bin/? 00:52:16 #!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "$topic1" = "ngevd" $ -a $ -e ngevd $ ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; \ else echo "$1? ¯\ 00:52:20 it's no{3,9}dl or something 00:52:25 `cat bin/rnooodl 00:52:26 perl -pe 's/nooodl/"n@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge' 00:52:39 where are those prety graphs derived from the logs 00:52:49 nooga: ask fizzie 00:52:51 AFAIR fizzie made them 00:52:56 oh yes 00:53:14 somewhere on zem.fi 00:53:22 thx 00:53:44 `log zem[.]fi 00:54:16 No output. 00:55:08 hah, can't find them 00:55:08 `run sed -i '2s!s/!s/no\+dl/nooodl/;s/!' bin/? 00:55:13 No output. 00:55:21 hm oops 00:55:23 -!- glogbackup has joined. 00:55:26 `cat bin/? 00:55:27 #!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/no+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ $ "$topic1" = "ngevd" $ -a $ -e ngevd $ ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; \ el 00:55:37 darn 00:55:40 `revert 00:55:44 Done. 00:55:54 `run sed -i '2s!s/!s/no\\+dl/nooodl/;s/!' bin/'?' 00:55:58 No output. 00:56:04 `? noooooooooodl 00:56:06 noooooooodl is the correct spelling 00:56:21 bash... 00:56:21 `? nodl 00:56:23 nooooooodl is the correct spelling 00:56:25 can I `run perl -e "fork while fork" ? 00:56:28 `? noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodl 00:56:30 noooooooodl is the correct spelling 00:56:40 is the correct spelling random? 00:56:44 yeah 00:56:48 ais523: correct 00:56:54 is it ever the same as the original query? 00:57:43 It's between 3 and 9 os, I think? 00:57:47 `run cat bin/rnooodl 00:57:48 perl -pe 's/nooodl/"n@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge' 01:00:39 `run ls wisdom/n*dl* 01:00:41 wisdom/nooodl 01:01:51 `cat bin/? 01:01:52 #!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/no\+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ $ "$topic1" = "ngevd" $ -a $ -e ngevd $ ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; \ e 01:02:18 `run sed -i '2s/no/noo/' bin/\? 01:02:22 No output. 01:02:27 `? nodl 01:02:28 shachaf: what, why? 01:02:29 nodl? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 01:02:30 `? noodl 01:02:31 noooooooodl is the correct spelling 01:02:35 looks like something is broken 01:02:41 because one o is just broken 01:02:44 don't you think? 01:02:48 oh well ok 01:03:12 `learn nooodles are the invention of the chinese. they were brought to europe by marco polo, a distant ancestor of taneb. 01:03:17 I knew that. 01:03:26 hah 01:03:31 `? noooooooodles 01:03:33 noooooodles are the invention of the chinese. they were brought to europe by marco polo, a distant ancestor of taneb. 01:03:36 i've set up highlights on /no+dl/ before. people have called me nodl before as a result! history repeats itself 01:03:49 `? ndl 01:03:51 ndl? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 01:04:18 oerjan: what's with not capitalizing wisdom entries 01:04:41 shachaf: rnoodle isn't case insensitive 01:04:44 i think 01:05:03 erm 01:05:06 rnooodl 01:05:30 `? nooga 01:05:32 nooga hate OS X. NOOGA SMASH. Hug not allowed. 01:05:35 wtf? 01:05:37 shachaf: namespacing 01:05:46 programmers use caps conventions for namespacing all the time 01:06:02 so in the future, we can make `? ALLCAPS do something completely unrelated to wisdom, for instance 01:06:09 -!- Sorella has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:06:11 ? 01:06:15 I'm talking about the text, not the file name. 01:06:35 that's namespaced too, so if it's written in sentencecase, you know it's sarcastic, or something 01:06:47 ais523: ? _is_ case insensitive. 01:07:16 sure, have you ever seen an uppercase '?'? 01:07:28 `? NoOoOdL 01:07:30 nooodl is the correct spelling 01:07:32 -!- glogbackup has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:07:53 bye glogbackup 01:07:55 `run sed -i 's/n/N/;s/ t/ T/;s/taneb/Taneb/' wisdom/nooodles 01:07:56 sed: can't read wisdom/nooodles: No such file or directory 01:08:01 `run sed -i 's/n/N/;s/ t/ T/;s/taneb/Taneb/' wisdom/noodles 01:08:02 `cat bdsmreclist 01:08:03 sed: can't read wisdom/noodles: No such file or directory 01:08:04 YOU are out of order. 01:08:07 what? 01:08:11 help 01:08:32 `run echo wisdom/*odl* 01:08:34 wisdom/nooodl wisdom/nooodle 01:08:36 just as a hint, if an op goes and edits something to say you shouldn't do it 01:08:46 you should probably take the hint 01:09:28 Wait, what? 01:09:32 what? 01:09:50 Which hint did I miss? 01:09:58 oerjan: don't deny it, this is hilarious 01:09:59 * oerjan adds to the what? queue 01:10:09 boring 01:10:09 wait, what 01:10:20 sigh 01:10:32 not v. funny 01:10:42 I have no idea of the context 01:10:43 `? nooga 01:10:44 nooga hate OS X. NOOGA SMASH. Hug not allowed. 01:10:47 now 01:10:50 who did this 01:10:54 ais523: i cannot undeny things i don't understand hth 01:10:58 `run sed -i 's/n/N/;s/ t/ T/;s/taneb/Taneb/' wisdom/noodle 01:11:00 sed: can't read wisdom/noodle: No such file or directory 01:11:05 `run sed -i 's/n/N/;s/ t/ T/;s/taneb/Taneb/' wisdom/nooodle 01:11:09 No output. 01:11:10 That one. 01:11:10 t/an/eb/ 01:11:36 -!- Sorella has joined. 01:11:42 oerjan: I was interpreting HackEgo's reponse as you disabling HackEgo entry 01:12:17 meh, ignore me 01:12:20 I'm tired and incoherent 01:12:53 -!- ais523 has left ("I'm too incoherent for meaningful conversation"). 01:13:11 i don't actually have the power to do that, except by kicking HackEgo 01:13:14 afaik 01:14:03 `? nooodle 01:14:07 Nooodles are the invention of the chinese. They were brought to europe by marco polo, a distant ancestor of Taneb. 01:14:26 `? nooga 01:14:28 shachaf: you didn't fix rnooodl to match 01:14:29 no. 01:14:34 now 01:14:35 better 01:14:42 oerjan: ? 01:14:49 Oh, I see. 01:15:05 rnooodl is case-sensitive. 01:15:33 `learn Nooodles are the invention of the chinese. They were brought to Europe by Marco Polo, a distant ancestor of Taneb. 01:15:35 /hackenv/bin/learn: line 4: wisdom/: Is a directory \ I knew that. 01:15:36 oops 01:15:41 `learn Nooodles are the invention of the chinese. They were brought to Europe by Marco Polo, a distant ancestor of Taneb. 01:15:45 I knew that. 01:15:56 oh, i guess those are names too 01:16:02 oh still missed one 01:16:09 `learn Nooodles are the invention of the Chinese. They were brought to Europe by Marco Polo, a distant ancestor of Taneb. 01:16:14 I knew that. 01:16:32 `cat bin/rnooodl 01:16:33 perl -pe 's/nooodl/"n@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge' 01:16:54 erm 01:17:14 -!- tromp has joined. 01:17:19 `run echo >bin/rnooodl 'perl -pe '\''s/[Nn]ooodl/"\1@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge'\' 01:17:23 No output. 01:17:24 does that work 01:17:43 `run echo 'nooodl nooodle' | rnooodl 01:17:45 .ooodl .oooodle 01:17:46 i think you need ([Nn]) 01:17:50 uh 01:17:52 yes 01:17:54 or is it $[Nn]$ who knows 01:17:59 in my head i wrote the parentheses 01:18:12 `run echo >bin/rnooodl 'perl -pe '\''s/([Nn])ooodl/"\1@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge'\' 01:18:13 U+1F04A MENTAL LEFT PARENTHESIS 01:18:18 `run echo 'nooodl nooodle' | rnooodl 01:18:24 -!- kmc has left. 01:18:34 `cat bin/rnooodl 01:18:51 did we break HackEgo again 01:18:55 `echo hi 01:18:56 .ooodl .oooooooodle 01:18:56 perl -pe 's/[Nn]ooodl/"\1@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge' 01:18:57 hi 01:18:59 No output. 01:18:59 i think i did 01:19:12 `run echo 'nooodl nooodle' | rnooodl 01:19:13 .oooooooodl .ooooooooodle 01:19:21 `run echo >bin/rnooodl 'perl -pe '\''s/([Nn])ooodl/"\1@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge'\' 01:19:22 No output. 01:19:24 `run echo 'nooodl nooodle' | rnooodl 01:19:25 .ooodl .ooooooooodle 01:19:30 `cat bin/rnooodl 01:19:32 perl -pe 's/([Nn])ooodl/"\1@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge' 01:19:41 ok 01:20:03 this gets almost as annoying as this haskell bot i remember from a while ago 01:20:22 `revert 01:20:23 oh hm 01:20:24 Done. 01:20:46 `run echo >bin/rnooodl 'perl -pe '\''s/([Nn])ooodl/"$1@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge'\' 01:20:49 No output. 01:20:59 `run echo 'nooodl nooodle' | rnooodl 01:21:01 noooooooodl noooodle 01:21:07 there you go 01:21:16 nooga: imagine being me. imagine the pings 01:21:27 `? nooga 01:21:29 no. 01:21:29 oh, right 01:21:31 ok 01:21:58 `? noooooodles 01:22:01 Noooooodles are the invention of the Chinese. They were brought to Europe by Marco Polo, a distant ancestor of Taneb. 01:22:43 `run cat bdsmreclist 01:22:45 YOU are out of order. 01:22:46 also, boily will probably kill us 01:22:48 what? 01:25:14 nooga: when he has to update the pdf 01:25:41 oh, he does that by hand? 01:25:47 crap 01:26:01 anyway, where's elliott? 01:26:38 idle for 7 hours 01:28:34 oh, right 01:31:10 crab 01:31:45 with mayonnaise? 01:32:21 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:35:16 -!- glogbackup has joined. 01:37:19 glogbackup: WHY ARE YOU HERE 01:45:08 -!- yorick has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:45:28 oerjan: you should have written your own stackoverflow answer rather than editing the other one 01:45:38 that way you'd have gotten karma instead of rejected 01:45:51 maybe. i see someone else did. 01:46:49 i just hadn't understood edits were not meant to be used that way, i'm a wiki man you know 01:47:03 they're not? 01:47:14 i have no idea how edits are meant to be used 01:48:24 well my edits were rejected by 3 people, all of which were shown as usually accepting edits, so i must have done _something_ wrong. 01:48:33 (and 1 person accepted.) 01:48:59 censorship 01:50:00 i don't know if you are allowed to open this link but http://stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/3792784 01:50:20 *my edit 01:50:56 i guess 02:08:55 -!- Sellyme has quit (Excess Flood). 02:11:04 -!- Sellyme has joined. 02:12:55 -!- kmc has joined. 02:16:06 more projects from the person who made the rule 110 scarf: http://www.ravelry.com/projects/fbz 02:16:20 and more info on how she programmed the knitting machine http://www.ravelry.com/projects/fbz/wolfram-1d-cellular-automata-01001001-scarf http://fabienne.us/tag/knittingmachine/ 02:16:30 now i want a knitting machine, knitting machines are the new 3D printers 02:20:57 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 02:31:36 -!- Sellyme has quit (Excess Flood). 02:32:03 -!- Sellyme has joined. 02:35:43 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:43:18 -!- tromp has joined. 02:49:34

we all know that it takes a steel foundry to really destroy malware. <-- now i'm wondering if it is possible to make a terminator^Wcomputer out of materials that can survive that 02:55:32 Knee pain makes me feel like an old man. :( 03:01:11 oh the knees. that's two parts of my body that usually _don't_ hurt. 03:01:49 well, not more than the legs in general, anyway. 03:02:12 Yeah, but you are older than time. 03:02:26 true, true 03:02:36 Actually, no, you aren't. Time started 1970, right? 03:02:56 well i was probably _conceived_ before time. 03:03:08 Fair enough. 03:09:53 -!- Sellyme has quit (Excess Flood). 03:10:03 -!- Sellyme has joined. 03:10:59 oerjan: lucky you. can i trade knees w/ you? 03:11:17 No, they're mine now! HAHAHA! 03:11:24 only if you take the rest of my body too 03:15:39 -!- nys has quit (Quit: sleep). 03:28:53 -!- Sorella has quit (Quit: It is tiem!). 03:30:46 -!- nooodl has quit (Quit: Leaving). 03:34:23 oerjan: including your brain? that can only work out well for me i'm sure 03:34:39 * quintopia wonders what can be done with an extra brain 03:40:21 you'd be surprised. 03:50:30 -!- zzo38 has joined. 04:02:52 I was in a Windows store today 04:02:54 They had a MakerBot 04:03:09 Showing off that Windows 8 comes with 3d printer drivers, apparently 04:06:26 @tell ais523 if you do that, you have a "primitive recursive" function, equivalence is decidable for those <-- i'm _very_ skeptical. it seems to me that you can encode something like "are there odd perfect numbers" as "is this primitive function which checks whether an odd number is perfect equivalent to const False". 04:06:26 Consider it noted. 04:06:56 @tell ais523 *primitive recursive 04:06:56 Consider it noted. 04:09:02 @tell ais523 actually more clearly, "does this TM halt" is would be decidable as "is 'does this TM halt in n steps' equivalent to const False" 04:09:03 Consider it noted. 04:09:28 @tell ais523 *-is 04:09:28 Consider it noted. 04:12:49 -!- mauke has quit (Disconnected by services). 04:12:59 -!- mauke has joined. 04:15:14 -!- preflex has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 04:15:25 -!- preflex_ has joined. 04:15:50 -!- preflex_ has changed nick to preflex. 04:18:21 How do I determine my ANI? (MY-ANI-IS doesn't work anymore.) 04:18:29 my knees only hurt after reeeally long periods of sitting without movement, but they do make these clicky sounds on occasion 04:19:18 @tell Bike does that converge slow? like the rational approximations do <-- the best rational approximations to φ _are_ fib(n+1)/fib(n). 04:19:18 Consider it noted. 04:19:45 oklopol: you're probably a robot 04:20:03 bleep bloop 04:20:07 no 04:20:24 nnnnnnnnno. 04:21:20 -!- drlemon has joined. 04:26:07 -!- prooftechnique has quit. 04:27:58 oerjan: so yes 04:28:31 MAYBE 04:30:31 time for a 2GB dist-upgrade 04:31:01 -!- kmc has left. 04:32:12 i think 2GB was about how much hard disk my last linux machine back at the university had in total. 04:32:48 it took over 12 minutes to download :'( 04:35:14 if only my internet connection at home was that fast 04:49:47 There are services to access other people's ANI, but I wish to access my own ANI; I have no need for other people's. 04:54:24 (For example in order to know the line class and telephone number of a line dialed from, including my own ) 04:59:57 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 05:08:00 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 05:23:58 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 05:24:30 -!- tromp has joined. 05:28:45 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 05:44:16 -!- madbr has joined. 05:44:49 why is sin() in radians 05:45:02 radians are the true unit. 05:45:28 radians are cool for calculus 05:46:40 and internally of course it does a taylor series which is easier to express in radians 05:46:42 but for like applied math it should be in turns really 05:50:19 madbr: what 05:50:31 presumably turn = 2pi 05:50:53 I use sin(stuff * 2 * 3.141592653589793) way more than sin(stuff) 05:50:55 yeah 05:51:08 madbr: sin() is in radians for many reasons. but one good reason is so that lim x->0 sin(x)/x = 1 05:51:48 yeah that's calculus related 05:52:05 also very much geometry related 05:52:12 yep 05:52:24 I get why in calculus stuff you want to use radians 05:52:41 measuring angles as arcs of the unit circle subtended makes a lot of things nice 05:52:42 sin(x) means you travel along the circle for distance x (upward, starting from the rightmost point), and check how high you got 05:52:57 but every time I use the C++ sin() functions it's never in that kind of application 05:53:01 "lim x->0 sin(x)/x = 1" states that you will initially go up 05:53:03 another good reason is that it makes it really simple to state the definition of sine in terms of exp and log 05:53:20 I use sine for generating sine wave in sound, where radians are totally useless 05:53:31 if you used turns instead, then angle x would not correspond to that much movement along the circle 05:53:37 and fft factors (radians are also useless there) 05:53:37 which makes it easy to write the sine program 05:53:55 and various video game applications (where radians are also useless) 05:53:59 sure 05:54:12 madbr: if you need a different sine, just define a sineturn macro. 05:54:16 okay calculus related in that sense, then what i said was sort of useless 05:54:55 doesn't the e^i kind of stuff rotate every 1 or 2 units? 05:54:58 for stuff other than math, it doesn't really matter too much what you use 05:55:03 imo 05:56:03 i don't understand the question; however, e^(2pi * a) is a complex number that has length 1 and points in direction a as a vector, where a is in turns 05:56:12 erm 05:56:15 pi*i 05:56:16 madbr: it rotates every tau units 05:56:25 okay so right 05:56:32 that's basically what you said i guess 05:56:46 just no explicit variable in there 05:56:51 quintopia : ah, right 05:57:22 the one that rotates every 2 is i^x 05:57:24 but yeah that's another good reason for using radians 05:57:39 madbr: if you actually cared about the distance traveled around the circle, you'd want radians. i suppose you never do. 05:57:41 uh, every 4 05:58:07 yeah I don't commonly use arcs 05:58:16 or calculate the perimeter of stuff 05:58:30 too bad. computational geometry is awesome 05:58:48 the computational geometry I do is 3d graphics :D 05:58:58 quintopia: that's a bit of a sweeping statement 05:58:59 yes that kind too 05:59:19 * oklopol wonders if that pun is gettable 05:59:22 oklopol: well my floor is kind of dirty, so i needed one 06:00:12 kinda wonder how common e^stuff or ln() is in applied code too 06:00:13 oklopol: not very good pun no. it's nowhere near randall's "Kepler the janitor" joke 06:00:32 yes that was great 06:00:49 except i totes didn't get it (i do now) 06:01:37 madbr: you mentioned fourier transforms. if you want a real one (not a fft) you'd need exp and log. 06:01:48 but you don't need radian cos for DCT? 06:02:18 quintopia: doesn't it use sin() and that's it? 06:04:47 madbr: it is defined in terms of complex exp. which means you could use sin and cos also, but you'd want the complex versions, which would be internally defined by complex exp and log 06:05:10 except no cpu supports complex numbers :D 06:06:05 gpus do at least 06:07:09 at least i thought so 06:10:43 and it's not just done "in software"? (ie by compositing regular floating point operations) 06:12:06 of course it is. your libraries would normally do it that way 06:13:45 then it's just a fancy way of writing sin/cos no? 06:14:48 it's a practical way 06:14:50 dunno why you'd want a non-fft fourier transform anyways :D 06:15:00 * quintopia shrugs 06:16:35 i thought there would be hardware support for matrix multiplication, in which case also complex multiplication would've been plausible 06:16:55