< 1389830403 45666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i imagine that you can do something like for any Alexandrov space, more generally < 1389830438 717896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :since every Alexandrov space corresponds to a preörder and every preörder has a dual < 1389830656 853258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1389830889 572218 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it has no name?? < 1389831680 90735 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1389831767 433477 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.152 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1389831777 292635 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1389831903 105060 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389832353 893933 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389835814 273168 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1389836478 259926 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389836487 554011 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389836513 875860 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389836569 334066 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389836587 681177 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389836651 394546 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1389838836 375492 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389839671 589033 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389840887 781132 :Sorella!~queen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1389841745 599324 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@135-23-50-28.cpe.pppoe.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1389842352 735566 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.168.184 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389844746 951781 :gdjfgh!t@odin.sdf-eu.org QUIT : < 1389844940 142442 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( ) < 1389844953 372250 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan : have you seen "Topology Via Logic" by Steven Vickers ? < 1389844965 405918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. < 1389844975 917906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i recall. < 1389845025 170451 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It will either prove or disprove, or maybe neither." < 1389845030 680833 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/15/showbiz/justin-bieber-vandalism-probe/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 < 1389845127 74056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should about cover it, then < 1389845443 672955 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1389845453 721030 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke JOIN :#esoteric < 1389845592 475449 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex JOIN :#esoteric < 1389845667 987067 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1389845675 325345 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex NICK :preflex < 1389846742 112864 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1389846783 924328 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1389847207 884718 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@135-23-50-28.cpe.pppoe.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1389848126 422505 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: is that the same Steve Vickers who works at my department? < 1389848140 566881 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, it's weird seeing people casually namedrop my colleagues, /again/ < 1389848323 822993 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 : i don't know what department you're at, but it's the Vickers at < 1389848332 744874 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: same one, then < 1389848334 688432 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's my department < 1389848647 594172 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe RE = open fits better because if you have a union of RE sets such that the turing machines giving them are enumerated by a turing machine, then the union is RE < 1389848685 939185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm good point < 1389848733 515277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf see oklopol in logs < 1389848733 737645 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1389848984 555261 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, my Turing-completeness-without-player-action proof for Magic: the Gathering is almost complete < 1389849010 917319 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any Magic fans (b_jonas?) here happen to know a way to cause an arbitrary creature to stop being a creature, while keeping its rules text around? < 1389849014 297408 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's OK if it's silly < 1389849044 498611 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you discuss for example the full shift S^\Z for a finite set S (that is, the cantor space), you want to talk about open sets which are somehow computable, and closed sets which are somehow computable < 1389849055 532086 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you do is say you have an "RE open set" < 1389849079 42763 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that a turing machine outputs words w such that every word with central pattern w is in your set < 1389849087 230647 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have coRE closed sets < 1389849100 924019 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :by outputting words w such that no word with w in the center is in your set < 1389849206 463032 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't know what percentage of humans would say that, but you certainly could say that < 1389849228 360223 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I think you can just turn it into a copy of a licid until end of turn, but that doesn't really work for what I want as then it gets enchant creature, which I don't want either < 1389849239 437301 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically the idea is that it needs to be able to survive infinitely many -1/-1 effects < 1389849360 987178 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O at Unexpected Results < 1389849650 532807 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can concede a game while Platinum Angel on the battlefield. A concession causes you to leave the game, which then causes you to lose the game (Once you concede, you no longer control a Platinum Angel, so its ability can't prevent you from losing the game)." < 1389849665 924627 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did there need to be a ruling on this? < 1389849678 326687 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, did someone concede then dispute the concession? < 1389849779 666412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: You're asking whether geeks did something ridiculously pedantic? < 1389849798 413954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I like oerjan's explanation for this < 1389849838 311344 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1389849844 894682 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi quintopia < 1389849891 354340 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you want to review the language we discussed the other day before I post it to the wiki < 1389849898 554544 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one is that? < 1389849927 45209 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the empowered NOMW < 1389849951 880448 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what's oerjan's explanation? < 1389849964 629326 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: see the quit message < 1389849969 674088 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(Quit: You're asking whether geeks did something ridiculously pedantic?)" < 1389849984 436067 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: not sure I remember, what does NOMW stand for? < 1389849984 850655 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1389850008 621681 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :noit o' mnain worb < 1389850092 560635 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ah right < 1389850101 172314 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may as well just post it, and then I can look at it there < 1389850105 898893 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also are you working on refining the MTG TM? remove the requirement that a player has an option? < 1389850112 283203 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yep < 1389850117 951175 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to remove phasing altogether < 1389850124 900413 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1389850125 304204 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :via inventing an esolang that maps more directly than a TM does < 1389850142 713954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I guess just giving these creatures all creature types would work < 1389850156 712103 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you give a creature all creature types? < 1389850167 411039 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :artificial evolution only changes the creature type right < 1389850175 931773 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a mechanic in lorwyn block < 1389850187 913944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure at least one card granted it to arbitrary creatures < 1389850245 129199 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1389850250 840164 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a red pump spell < 1389850257 77057 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually there's an entire cycle < 1389850260 494884 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"X of velis vel" < 1389850264 242563 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just checked gatherer < 1389850273 19527 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also amoeboid changeling, which has it as a tap ability < 1389850273 204716 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1389850286 367695 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could only remember the red one, plus nameless inversion < 1389850289 539045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, not a cycle < 1389850295 309408 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :red, white, and blue < 1389850298 276981 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no green or black < 1389850325 99690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how bizarre < 1389850346 88621 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you clearly know mtg much better than me < 1389850351 72368 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know how many creature types there are offhand? this construction needs like 200 < 1389850429 506212 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than that, surely? < 1389850434 567339 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1389850718 452017 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1vc7ot/if_a_future_civilization_found_a_complete_set_of/ < 1389850780 40456 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so can you design a magic deck such that with probability 1, no matter what the players do, a particular computation emerges < 1389850783 934078 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the "what happens if you play Floral Spuzzem and you're using that Un-card that removes errata" has become something of an inside joke < 1389850788 376225 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess they can just say "okay i give up"? < 1389850801 227964 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but other than that, how likely is it that you can do that < 1389850803 144155 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe the current opinion is that the Floral Spuzzem gets a loss for slow ply < 1389850804 804014 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*play < 1389850815 400327 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: they could also not play any spells < 1389850821 484145 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there aren't any cards that force you to play them < 1389850830 491835 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no could there be, reasonably, it'd be impossible to enforce < 1389850969 451519 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1389851055 247147 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because nobody but the person holding them would know that they'd drawn them < 1389851069 963987 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are many card games with such rules though < 1389851090 355091 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels really wrong but works in practice < 1389851106 438226 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Magic designers are really worried about that sort of cheating, for some reason < 1389851107 942380 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because people are honest < 1389851120 141170 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were worried even about designing cards that gave you a bonus if you played them immediately upon drawing them < 1389851136 103168 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1389851137 15164 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or cards that let you look at a set of cards from your deck without changing their order < 1389851160 900334 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both of which are enforceable by the opponent, but only if they pay attention to how your hands are moving < 1389851177 304086 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1389851191 412716 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1389851215 96354 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, i need to do some linear algebra homework, invert matrices and stuff < 1389851244 992627 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sucks. < 1389851255 158416 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks huge ass < 1389851278 890590 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also yesterday my gf was watching and kept saying "why did you write 99 there btw?" < 1389851282 57905 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i had to explain < 1389851283 435137 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything < 1389851294 559687 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the worst part is she was always right and it was supposed to be something else < 1389851307 411883 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1389851329 105655 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure i have much to teach these people < 1389851396 446995 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, "why did you write 99?" < 1389851399 501162 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, good quesiton < 1389851401 904084 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*question < 1389851413 548800 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :see what i did was realize that i am interested in the span of these vectors < 1389851426 109800 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i know that if i sum these vectors like this, then the span does not change, but < 1389851434 755309 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"NO NO i mean 90 + 5 is 95, not 99" < 1389851473 857311 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2039#comic < 1389851513 95147 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1389851563 801775 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(she does know matrices though, i just lecture to everyone equally) < 1389851939 916283 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both Factor and Rebol look backwards sometimes, and forwards other times < 1389851951 639440 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure both prefix-only and postfix-only suck < 1389852228 830528 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Not_The_Main_Worb < 1389852238 832970 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I like the name :-) < 1389852281 204686 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that's a really good reason to have image-based source code < 1389852402 499436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it's not Turing-complete unless you give it infinite memory somehow < 1389852413 167413 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i didn't say it was < 1389852425 241537 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :say by tiling the plane with it, with different tiled copies being taken to have different labels < 1389852442 3694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said you could construct TC families < 1389852489 105749 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do think that construction at the bottom proves it NP-hard to determine whether a stable state exists for any given NTMW program, though < 1389852495 263442 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: which implies that one is allowed to generate circuits with a limited TM, yes? < 1389852512 662213 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yeah but TCness doesn't work like that < 1389852532 463305 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :being able to produce arbitrary circuits is proof of NP difficulty, though < 1389852544 214234 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'll change it to LBA then. happy? < 1389852548 43776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's more interesting is whether that's PSPACE-complete < 1389852558 564128 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no because it doesn't take input, that's part of the definition of LBA < 1389852581 644552 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: we can define input size as "number of raw sources and sinks" < 1389852590 46846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a whole different set of complexities for things with finite memory, like that finite state machine < 1389852593 433637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's code size, not input size < 1389852609 917525 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: they function as input to the circuit < 1389852625 257779 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, no? < 1389852630 883105 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do i keep pinging you no one else is talking < 1389852645 401331 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they act deterministically, there's no input being received from outside < 1389852652 79733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if there /were/, you still wouldn't have an LBA < 1389852663 231937 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no input being received from outside when a TM starts with its input on the tape also < 1389852664 209768 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the amount of data storage you have is not proportional to the size of the input you've received < 1389852676 835088 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turing machines also aren't LBAs, though < 1389852693 621301 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the LBA restrictions of Turing machines require you to implement a separate input mechanism < 1389852701 635558 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just saying your objection to calling parts of the code "input" is invalid < 1389852723 221463 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm saying you can't arbitrarily define some lines of code (or pixels of code, in this case) to be input < 1389852727 487579 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that makes no sense < 1389852737 849102 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1389852738 823616 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :input isn't part of the code, by definition < 1389852761 107423 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't i draw a line across the image and say "everything on this line is input, everything else is code" < 1389852772 414742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, you could define a preprocessor that compiled input into circuitry, then you probably would have an LBA < 1389852773 652662 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :" being able to produce arbitrary circuits is proof of NP difficulty, though" ? < 1389852795 494565 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the circuit is something different than i imagine < 1389852828 869534 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: because if you can create an arbitrary circuit out of AND/OR/NOT/delay (even random delay), you can create a binary counter and a check circuit < 1389852831 818057 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and use it to solve 3SAT < 1389852836 121238 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even pick out a set of pixels and say "these particular pixels are not code. they are input." < 1389852869 584551 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but usually if you can make arbitrary evaluate-only circuits, you get P completeness (you get any computation, but it's deterministic), or if the circuit has loops, you get PSPACE-hardness (because you can run any computation in the polynomial space that the logspace transducer gave you in the form of the circuit) < 1389852875 625149 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: because it doesn't make sense, for a particular program, for its data storage to be proportional in the size of the input, because the input has a fixed size < 1389852881 223959 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :being a specific set of pixels < 1389852883 609336 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, so PSPACE-hard < 1389852891 806175 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can also check QSAT < 1389852897 284929 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :with that same algo < 1389852897 469802 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: good, I was wondering if it was also PSPACE-hard < 1389852905 937398 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but didn't know how to prove it < 1389852929 738769 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: PSPACE-hardness is one of the highest computational classes an FSM can have, so I think the language is fulfilling its purpose pretty well < 1389852950 405633 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks up QSAT < 1389852952 334621 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah circuits don't get higher than that < 1389852955 173842 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: okay imagine that the circuit family definition expands in a particular way, so that every time you add one pixel of input, you add a fixed number of other pixels that serve that pixel's input? < 1389852968 664984 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo circuit < 1389852978 125600 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: then it's an LBA, agreed < 1389852987 842127 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought we were talking about circuit families all along here and now i find out you were talking about one particular circuit < 1389852998 524610 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1389853024 82908 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the "input via preprocessor" idea I explained above < 1389853053 535024 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could call it that. or you could just call it "the definition of the circuit family" < 1389853140 494573 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, what if adding a pixel of input required adding a circuit proportional in size to the depth of the circuit you're adding to and increasing the depth by 1, so that the circuit size grows quadratically with input size? what is that? < 1389853188 652075 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mumbles something about logspace-uniform circuit families < 1389853200 792501 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck uniformity! :D < 1389853219 962364 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, so it seems that the strongest known "P≠NP"-like result in the normal chain of complexity classes is "NL≠PSPACE" < 1389853223 899333 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has been reading too much complexity theory lately < 1389853228 282799 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's… not a very strong result < 1389853228 514541 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so should i just say it can "probably" allow the creation of PSPACE-complete circuit families? < 1389853240 704396 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you can say that it's PSPACE-hard < 1389853252 875752 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1389853256 200270 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I think it's trivially PSPACE-complete < 1389853276 46974 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok? < 1389853289 175351 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the thing is in the usual chain, there's only a "space steps" exponential jumps apart, and "time steps" exponential jumps apart. < 1389853290 257407 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that oklopol proved it PSPACE-hard and it obviously doesn't take more than nondetrminstic polynomial space to simulate < 1389853293 424729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and NPSPACE = PSPACE < 1389853301 411186 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing is, we cannot compare space and time in a nontrivial way < 1389853314 730277 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1389853318 264497 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll put that then < 1389853323 385501 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well PSPACE is know to be a subset of EXPTIME < 1389853342 180900 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, we have stronger separation results than just that an adding an exponential amount of space gives you new languages < 1389853361 585312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1389853365 925302 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and similarly for time < 1389853367 997877 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not very good at complexity theory < 1389853375 792279 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, I know the very basics, just not much more than that < 1389853401 373793 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i know more than the basics, but it's more of a hobby for me < 1389853414 898769 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I thought we at least had P != PSPACE < 1389853432 496805 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although we're probably gonna publish some gadget stuff soon) < 1389853435 96623 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: not according to Wikipedia, apparently that's still an open problem < 1389853438 293045 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and definitely have P != EXPTIME, right? < 1389853440 505689 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: we don't have that < 1389853448 61777 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :P != EXPTIME because both are time classes < 1389853452 603038 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, you have P≠EXPTIME < 1389853456 441146 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, ok < 1389853471 502624 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :P=PSPACE would be even more surprising than P=NP, of course < 1389853473 976046 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know how to prove Savitch's Theorem and...I know Dick Lipton's theorem about how the polynomial hierarchy collapses, but I don't recall the proof since it's been so long since I was in his class. < 1389853488 374306 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :P vs NP? no one knows because they are different types of classes. P vs PSPACE? no one knows because they are different types of classes. (except for trivial relations) < 1389853500 920494 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :similarly for quantum stuff, but now there are no comparisons... < 1389853528 653865 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :interestingly, randomness can be compared in nontrivial ways < 1389853537 989009 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you come up with fun ways to approximate sizes of sets) < 1389853570 300136 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There exists an oracle separation between BQP and BPP at least < 1389853577 643207 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is actually kinda surprising < 1389853596 536556 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah oracle separations exist for many things < 1389853673 929234 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really know what BQP is < 1389853681 784110 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :BPP except with a quantum computer < 1389853692 377333 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's coming up soon in my complexity theory bedtime stories book < 1389853703 580482 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, P_{CTC} (deterministic computations with closed timelike curves) = PSPACE < 1389853718 714262 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1389853726 23819 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that surprising < 1389853752 120352 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i guess that's basically what i said about circuits with self-loops < 1389853753 807954 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the very least, it's obvious that P_{CTC} contains NP < 1389853758 106678 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in a fancy disguise < 1389853767 763481 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1389853802 507092 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay so next < 1389853806 415860 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :find solutions to < 1389853816 21571 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :x+3y-2z+u=-2 < 1389853822 781570 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :draughts is EXPTIME-complete? that's surprising < 1389853828 455930 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2x+7y+3z+4u=16 < 1389853840 701065 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :-x-y+4z+15u=6 < 1389853856 695087 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i'm not your CAS. invert your own damn matrices. < 1389853863 388097 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that just linear programming? < 1389853880 542156 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, where's the fourth equation < 1389853886 382365 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a CAS? < 1389853889 587794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do it without matrices < 1389853894 128493 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Computer Algebra System < 1389853898 639955 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Maple or Mathematica < 1389853901 235434 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1389853923 468056 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :HE DOESN'T EVEN SPECIFY THE FIELD, HOW ARE THE STUDENTS SUPPOSED TO GUESS < 1389853936 402946 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: doing elimination of large systems by hand is annoying. so is taking determinants. so is taking inverses. so, no, use a CAS. < 1389853939 65857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that particular problem, I'd guess it's rational numbers < 1389853967 756637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that thing isn't large enough that I'd be annoyed at having to use elimination or substitution on it < 1389853969 107484 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: there's no fourth equation < 1389853973 771412 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's clearly the finite field of order 23 < 1389853976 160252 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why this is problem 6 already. < 1389854018 837378 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: so your answer is supposed to be another equation? < 1389854042 883448 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"find solutions" probably means "give the solution set in a more explicit form" < 1389854050 967509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lead < 1389854051 152403 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 1h 28m 37s ago: see oklopol in logs < 1389854062 525859 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just said something about RE vs open < 1389854070 246259 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good cas oughta be able to do that shit for ya < 1389854079 40406 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or matlab or whateverthefuck < 1389854099 297033 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :making people do matrix computation by hand is pointless and cruel. < 1389854150 431598 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: the solution set should be a line right?????????????????????????????????? < 1389854195 293503 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the typical solution will be 1-dimensional, yes < 1389854213 467884 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea about this particular one yet < 1389854255 183769 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it cannot be unique, but it can be also two or three dimensional in theory < 1389854355 96010 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah true < 1389854377 177558 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but those equations LOOK LIKE THEY ARE PROBABLY INDEPENDENT < 1389854388 224509 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1389854406 813481 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you reading this book oklopol < 1389854407 787295 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me that i didn't know until a few months ago that solving systems of polynomials is A Hard Problem < 1389854423 432836 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because, i don't know, i'm an idiot probably < 1389854429 3278 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if someone asks you if a matrix is invertible, you can always safely say yes < 1389854435 598161 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1389854441 295721 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew a fun fact about that... < 1389854461 686858 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: is the zero matrix invertible??????????????????? < 1389854476 124946 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you will encounter that during your lifetime with 0 probability, even if you live forever. < 1389854485 492045 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Right, so it's more complicated than "finite union", I guess. < 1389854488 495408 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming you only look at real matrices < 1389854489 955358 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it was like, if you have the set of matrices with normal random entries around zero, then the average matrix is singular and the singular matrices are measure zero < 1389854491 414969 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1389854519 314879 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you meant "if someone asks you if a randomly selected real matrix is invertible..." < 1389854520 370995 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it probably doesn't matter if they're normal < 1389854542 137327 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time you analyze a joke a frog dies, quintopia, and they are an important part of many ecosystems. < 1389854563 85283 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1389854581 206816 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that a joke?????? oklohelpol!!!! < 1389854589 574929 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1389854595 91195 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it was a joke < 1389854601 419052 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :a reeeeally funny one < 1389854610 805147 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically what Bike said < 1389854672 16388 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke being that the singular matrices are generally measure zero, but you're still going to run into them because mathematicians don't sample uniformly, they look for the most pathological bullshit possible :p < 1389854688 511546 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, like the all zero matrix < 1389854697 664472 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do they come up with that stuff! < 1389854699 443600 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought i was making that joke < 1389854700 619729 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bullshit matrix < 1389854711 157198 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :eaifheifhaiefh < 1389854720 454174 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fasdfsdfrefrewf < 1389854734 495930 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :...it seems i have yet to solve my equation < 1389855052 580534 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay it's done < 1389855166 322974 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i got {(7,-1,3,0) + u(28,-9,1,1) | u \in \R\} as the set of solutions) < 1389855181 497856 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :plausible. < 1389856506 386045 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389857191 646886 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1389857726 792041 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Screw concatenativity, I want mixfix < 1389857814 984956 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 > 2 if [ "Math broke" print ] [ "Math didn't break" print ] < 1389857849 927666 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Words could take in both a past stack and a future stack < 1389857901 134512 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: without the print it would actually look nice < 1389857951 259643 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, what's wrong with the print? But this should be valid too < 1389857963 609300 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 > 2 if [ "Math broke" ] [ "Math didn't break" ] print < 1389858002 495404 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... if print took a future argument instead, this would kind of not work < 1389858016 153006 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :print 1 > 2 if [ "Math broke" ] [ "Math didn't break" ] < 1389858038 711893 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :print might be satisfied by the result of 1 > 2, which I don't want < 1389858059 220573 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you myname < 1389858072 897368 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just make booleans unprintable :p < 1389858080 19159 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who needs that anyways < 1389859435 730771 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could use paratheses < 1389859446 871115 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :print (1 > 2 if ["Math broke"] ["Math didn't break"] < 1389859448 646739 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1389859481 715203 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :where stuff in parantheses are treated as regular arguments in any other language < 1389859493 659986 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way you can write 5 6 + (concatenativ/stackish) < 1389859507 216149 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or + (5 6) or possibly even + (5) (6) < 1389859560 328658 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e you delay the function and evaluate the stack of the expression in the parantheses first < 1389859563 485241 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then run the function < 1389859669 169209 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, any ideas? I have this gstreamer command line that used to work; it involves a multifilesink location='frame%08 err, never mind, I see the problem. < 1389859734 436809 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Was supposed to be frame%08d.jpg but had written frame%08.jpg instead -- it generated the files "frame (nil)g", "frame 0x1g", "frame 0x2g", and so on.) < 1389860232 707049 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389860389 665045 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"giblib warning: couldn't load font yudit/12, attempting to fall back to fixed. giblib warning: failed to even load fixed! Attempting to find any font. feh ERROR: Couldn't load font to draw a message" huh < 1389860405 363743 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389861238 198862 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, i just realized that the Karma page on the wiki still says it is not known whether it is Turing-complete < 1389861290 324898 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: does it actually say 'feh' < 1389861292 410965 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I just found a file on my computer from March 2009 that contains an implementation of BCT in Karma < 1389861300 119352 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should probably post that < 1389861893 708778 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1389862664 670926 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol : sounds ok < 1389862712 570500 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the RE and coRE stufF) < 1389862725 203735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: Hmm, did you see the question I asked earlier about that? < 1389862799 788161 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, %08.jpg < 1389862809 505419 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: feh is a program < 1389862841 11298 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :% = start of format specifier < 1389862862 496663 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 = set the zero flag < 1389862874 766671 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 = set minimum field width to 8 < 1389862886 336282 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :. = equivalent to .0, i.e. set precision to 0 < 1389862921 500577 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :j = length modifier (the following format refers to an intmax_t/uintmax_t) < 1389862934 396578 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :p = void * pointer < 1389862950 857353 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a marvellous world of printf specifiers. < 1389862995 627547 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure 0, .0, and j are invalid/undefined with p < 1389863030 534741 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :and passing an int where a void * is expected is also undefined behavior < 1389863052 476290 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what you end up with is integers printed as memory addresses as if by %8p < 1389863072 249280 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and the g is just a g < 1389863199 126428 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes. < 1389863243 445183 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1389863336 244977 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389863424 699666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: Is if (argv[0] && argv[0][0]) { Prog = argv[0]; } a standard idiom for you? < 1389863464 127762 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1389863469 944674 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1389863600 68526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. Does that exist anywhere else? < 1389863630 107582 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1389865495 658927 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: i mainly meant that i've more often seen arithmetical hierarchy terminology used for this stuff < 1389865526 387157 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like \Pi^0_1 instead of coRE < 1389865554 398484 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that there's a difference in meaning) < 1389865695 915185 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf : no < 1389865900 305057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was https://plus.google.com/+ShachafBen-Kiki/posts/Bt4CxtttYxP < 1389865912 675825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how much of that was brought up in the discussion here. < 1389866143 755 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf : perhaps you could repeat the question ? < 1389866146 883506 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( re "split", ) < 1389866164 608140 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone point me at a language that we don't know if it's TC or not < 1389866207 144846 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a retract situation consists of one morphism `s : A -> B' and one morphism `r : B -> A', satisfying `r . s = id_A' < 1389866228 911114 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`r' is said to be a retraction (of `s'), and `s' is said to be a section (of `r') < 1389866232 694059 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: r': not found < 1389866262 53664 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we define `i = s . r', then `i . i = s . r . s . r = s . id_A . r = s . r = i', so `i' is then an idempotent < 1389866304 54857 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in a retract situation, `r' is also known as a "split epi(morphism)/epic" and `s' as a "split mono(morphism)") < 1389866361 611826 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :given any idempotent `i', if we can find `r' and `s' such that `r . s = id' (a retract situation), and `s . r = i', then `i' is called a split idempotent, we say that `i' splits < 1389866371 959547 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf : perhaps that helps ? < 1389866479 639770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's yet another thing that's called "split", not the epi or the mono but their composition (in the other direction) < 1389866502 153510 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :split splat splut < 1389866510 567057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, maybe it's being used as an adjective. < 1389866540 680712 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The epi and mono are "split" from the idempotent. < 1389866545 248252 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1389866556 328144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1389866566 71033 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's as far as i understand it) < 1389866570 581794 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, the question in a rough form is in the Google+ post above. < 1389866607 317472 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will probably delete the post later, as I do. < 1389866623 807930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone commented so I'd feel a bit bad deleting it. :-( < 1389866784 614356 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf : did you see Martín Escardó's "Synthetic topology of data types and classical spaces" in 2004-11 at ? < 1389866841 466569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1389866927 85732 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Semidecidable property ≈ open set" is mentioned in chapter 1 < 1389866965 86970 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, well, I've heard that analogy before, sure. < 1389867058 966473 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that exactly what I'm trying to get at here? < 1389867188 355461 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Given a family `p_i(x)' of properties, in order to observe that the disjunction `\/_i p_i(x)' holds it suffices to observe that one of the disjuncts `p_i(x)' holds. Hence arbitrary disjunctions of observable properties are observable. ..(some qualifications to that).." < 1389867236 346795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, everyone: http://esolangs.org/wiki/StackFlow < 1389867246 64559 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not bad for 2 and a bit days' work :-) < 1389867263 67636 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Qualifications described in a later chapter in that PDF, I guess. < 1389867282 133495 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks for the link, I'll probably read it tomorrow or something. < 1389867316 501620 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what is "sufficiently large that the language remains Turing complete"? doesn't that need to be unbounded? < 1389867338 830870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: no, it just needs to be large enough to implement at least one interpreter for a Turing complete language < 1389867379 906287 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I have one that uses 5 stacks, 20 symbols, 41 rules < 1389867393 671890 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the program it interprets is input using the initial contents of the stack, which interpreters can't put bounds on < 1389867406 571214 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1389867412 874683 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I love the markdown < 1389867433 775124 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This is a program implements a cyclic tag system in StackFlow." < 1389867436 814992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1389867447 992676 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, right < 1389867449 495192 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me fix that < 1389867457 284698 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, it's untested because I don't have an interp yet < 1389867507 926312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, is StackFlow the first esolang designed for literate programming? it may be < 1389867513 253994 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1389867522 935778 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does look kind of cool < 1389867561 978735 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I'm not sure what made me think of Markdown-based syntax, but when I did, the opportunity was too good to pass up < 1389868084 936785 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Neat. < 1389868105 409044 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The StackFlow page.) < 1389868121 950926 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to sleep, should have gone 2 hours ago < 1389868179 404100 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1389869446 365639 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389869464 752150 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(About Time Walk) < 1389869466 678799 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Combos well with a deck." < 1389869504 207410 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Client Quit < 1389870179 95421 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389871013 761458 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.168.184 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1389873398 826815 :peapodamus!~nodepony@e2.bc.425e.cidr.airmail.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389873521 434742 :peapodamus!~nodepony@e2.bc.425e.cidr.airmail.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389873847 295165 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1389873851 926751 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1389873864 47020 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1389873873 335495 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1389873934 703932 :qlkzy_!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a NICK :qlkzy < 1389874219 616952 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Mergesort, does it particularly matter how you divide the list? < 1389874282 310570 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no, although particularly stupid divisions (like always dividing into 1 element, and the rest) hurt the computational class < 1389874299 466800 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*computational complexity < 1389874330 686114 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so just alternating elements is fine? < 1389874374 924810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1389874400 257677 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good way to think about it is this: if a sort algorithm cares what order the list was in originally, it's probably broken < 1389874400 442634 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet < 1389874444 679943 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a Haskell function called "notQuickSort", which, true to its name, is not quicksort < 1389874502 899080 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a lot of functions that aren't quicksort < 1389874509 744576 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I wouldn't call a (comparison-)sort function that's O(n log n) worst-case but O(n) best-case for an already-sorted list "broken". < 1389874529 144560 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's O(n²) worst case < 1389874534 797093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see < 1389874541 586895 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't call that "caring", in that case < 1389874560 386530 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the sense of the output being different < 1389874576 869307 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I was aiming to write Quicksort, but I wasn't including the pivot except in the singleton list case < 1389874585 901388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1389874592 184989 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the pivots just disappear? < 1389874693 307828 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it was me being stupid. It's fixed now, though < 1389875523 384551 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1389876750 324887 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1389876954 357305 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1389877128 782135 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389877139 352820 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389878071 714950 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1389878192 637269 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389878930 132727 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1389880681 412737 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1389881613 55571 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's a php puzzle: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/291607?tx=on < 1389883135 445761 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"virtual bool aku::PhnReader::next_frame(): Assertion `m_current_frame >= m_cur_phn.start' failed." < 1389883144 456631 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helpful. < 1389883374 596731 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: aku PhnReader'nglui Cthulhu fhtagn? < 1389883374 829376 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: m-- m-1 doesn't work? < 1389883395 56440 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no it doesn't, the m_cur_phn.start fails the assertion. < 1389883395 241409 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: how big was the code < 1389883398 539767 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: big. < 1389883398 734783 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and sorry, no :) or :(? it would be < 1389883441 827944 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-56.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389883446 627294 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be big, yes. < 1389883448 81351 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-56.dataart.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389883450 388986 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's not all that big.) < 1389883467 483018 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it doesn't like a gap in this file, is all. < 1389884079 890740 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.168.184 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1389884090 86899 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389884502 84996 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1389884784 662917 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389884823 325711 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1389885317 779279 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1389885334 974662 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389885504 143973 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.152 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389885867 201966 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you should fix the code < 1389885867 425619 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: i believe. < 1389885876 145033 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: stop being creepy < 1389885876 389217 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: give the short example, or a file:// url which refers to my pseudofilesystem. < 1389885885 664314 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :._. < 1389885922 888589 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fairly sure fungot is sentinent < 1389885923 202908 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: so cl and elisp have it, but i discovered that the library system is intended to provide a way to make < 1389885942 612723 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, lisp is popular in AI research < 1389886344 484755 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pseudofilesystem? < 1389886355 715378 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: it is a well known fact that fungot is sentient. blame fizzie. < 1389886355 900698 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: in soviet russia, crow scares you!! < 1389886361 912536 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: see ↑ < 1389886376 143556 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :._. < 1389886411 802755 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: in regular #esoteric, you scare me < 1389886412 335302 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: and it was for computer science, and forcer isn't just going to ask you earlier. i mean even if he explains lots of dynamic libraries :) you already call two internal lambdas, just make your cffi and use mpi... < 1389886541 53734 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1389889073 147720 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1389889234 374842 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1389889304 346031 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1389889383 753787 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1389889700 200638 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1389889774 153003 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1389890115 202701 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What, exactly, do you believe? < 1389890115 441559 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the compiler is happy, " as well" you only need one! :) < 1389890528 962913 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives fungot a loch ness plushie < 1389890529 148238 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well as i can't use a serialiser while it's already in use) < 1389890630 379510 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you serializing, fungot? < 1389890630 704590 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: i'd like to have the thread stay alive and accept future messages, i get pretty fnord < 1389890685 244221 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty fnords. heh ^^ < 1389891166 295284 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@146.66.52.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389891171 209139 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@146.66.52.22 QUIT :Changing host < 1389891171 394154 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1389891237 704284 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ello Phantom_Hoover < 1389891240 593904 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Helloover < 1389891259 20986 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :impressive < 1389891265 454226 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste bin/ello < 1389891269 95620 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/bin/ello < 1389891620 425473 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words < 1389891625 396457 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rheiro < 1389891630 65570 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ello `words 10` < 1389891634 641009 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ferello < 1389891641 297503 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ello "`words 10`" < 1389891645 254749 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :tesheaf gaya reprovemon egellorguer kalm gester dire warpe ostv fedeipenne < 1389891686 953313 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like "tesheaf" should produce "teshellaf" < 1389891751 700296 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I see the issue. It's operating on the list all at once < 1389891802 655523 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run for word in $(words 10); do ello $word; done < 1389891812 815667 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :holtykkellabellon \ appomellorstag \ fimello \ gaffenello \ albrevello \ lebranello \ wasschedello \ clepellosit \ damello \ acarello < 1389891844 601664 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ello Ngevd < 1389891847 59273 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevdello < 1389891851 807901 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: It can get pretty fnord if you're trying to serialize a thread, yes. < 1389891852 20756 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: am almost done downloading it. ( which i don't use it any more < 1389891891 301769 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: then why are you downloading it? < 1389891891 693563 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: it's _not_ a useful observation if the means of a lambda would mean having a regular expression srfi defined actual regular expressions, do it well < 1389892929 780098 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any esoteric templating/markup languages? < 1389892950 107877 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, ones that translate to HTML? < 1389893162 764638 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: downloading srfis, eh+ < 1389893162 989726 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: actually i think it's just so that i don't < 1389893174 543862 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: oh, okay, not downloading SRFIs then < 1389893174 913632 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yay. i will correct this anyway, it should only work on a ppc, then? lists? < 1389893201 346274 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure you're talking about srfi-1, fungot < 1389893201 531174 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: just that when i tried < 1389893240 487593 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --help < 1389893242 365244 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: words [-dhNo] [DATASETS...] [NUMBER_OF_WORDS] \ \ options: \ -l, --list list valid datasets \ -d, --debug debugging output \ -N, --dont-normalize don't normalize frequencies when combining \ multiple Markov models; this has the effect \ of making larger dataset < 1389893261 915049 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words -l | xargs < 1389893264 689796 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :valid datasets: --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --french --german --hebrew --russian --spanish --irish --german-medical --bulgarian --catalan --swedish --brazilian --canadian-english-insane --manx --italian --ogerman --portuguese --polish --gaelic --finnish --norwegian --esolangs default: --eng-1M < 1389893284 355500 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --german-medical 10 | xargs -n 1 ello < 1389893291 954557 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :beridiertellome \ akzellon \ gregelseptellom \ pertemototelloniumcin \ retrinmesierello \ silandsello \ lungseinfallello \ pellonsen \ helllyopiege \ krebello < 1389893296 446052 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse, I haven't heard of any. Not sure how you could go about creating an interesting one either. Interesting idea though. < 1389893972 497873 :atrapado!~ddd@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1389894165 243211 :peapodamus!~nodepony@e2.bc.425e.cidr.airmail.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION switches to #esoteric < 1389894169 761206 :peapodamus!~nodepony@e2.bc.425e.cidr.airmail.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PEAPODAMUS IS IN THE HOUSE < 1389894171 716875 :peapodamus!~nodepony@e2.bc.425e.cidr.airmail.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :┏(-_-)┛┗(-_-)┓┗(-_-)┛┏(-_-)┓ < 1389894203 571737 :peapodamus!~nodepony@e2.bc.425e.cidr.airmail.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol dead channel < 1389894208 559411 :peapodamus!~nodepony@e2.bc.425e.cidr.airmail.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION switches to #Windows95 < 1389894214 609542 :peapodamus!~nodepony@e2.bc.425e.cidr.airmail.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PEAPODAMUS IS LEAVING THE HOUSE < 1389894215 598485 :peapodamus!~nodepony@e2.bc.425e.cidr.airmail.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :┏(-_-)┛┗(-_-)┓┗(-_-)┛┏(-_-)┓ < 1389894218 623163 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o_ _o/ \o/ < 1389894218 914614 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 |   |   | < 1389894219 100006 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 >\  >\  >\ < 1389894250 763673 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :woohoo < 1389894252 151466 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :party on < 1389894258 328499 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :party on mothafucka party on < 1389894258 881205 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wo < 1389894259 415913 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wo < 1389894259 857722 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wo < 1389894260 42668 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :The party is now on. < 1389894261 427403 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :party on < 1389894262 92330 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so on < 1389894263 707511 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :woohoo < 1389894301 442929 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : O O < 1389894314 499685 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the ocular pattern for myndzi? < 1389894332 189061 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : O.O < 1389894335 739794 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or firework, or whatever that flowery thing is supposed to be) < 1389894337 440746 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :O | O < 1389894343 882098 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1389894348 553724 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :\/ < 1389894375 944915 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F440 (f0 9f 91 80): EYES [👀] < 1389894380 620577 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :~party < 1389894381 104199 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1389894391 998804 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`party < 1389894393 668136 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: party: not found < 1389894398 173927 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`celebrate < 1389894400 938002 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: celebrate: not found < 1389894485 797712 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wl lala < 1389894488 526711 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get NOTHING! You LOSE! Good DAY sir! < 1389894498 891198 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. Win/Lose < 1389894532 948111 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot256 secret < 1389894534 639626 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :secret < 1389894545 679273 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot0 secret < 1389894547 318040 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: rot0: not found < 1389894592 380137 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat `type -p fsck` < 1389894596 308538 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: `type -p fsck`: No such file or directory < 1389894647 410561 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ln -s /usr/bin/cat /hackego/bin/rot0 < 1389894649 871561 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ln --help' for more information. < 1389894653 484614 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s /usr/bin/cat /hackego/bin/rot0 < 1389894655 348220 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: creating symbolic link `/hackego/bin/rot0': No such file or directory < 1389894664 284426 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s /hackego/bin/rot0 /usr/bin/cat < 1389894665 944909 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/bin/cat': Read-only file system < 1389894670 983827 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat `type -p fsck` < 1389894673 779362 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cksum /dev/urandom < 1389894710 978198 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :methinks that will not terminate < 1389894717 450330 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fsck < 1389894732 959672 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln operand order is like cp < 1389894742 439995 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric : o.o < 1389894749 229886 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, not that either < 1389894752 181578 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l /hackego/bin/rot256 < 1389894778 157568 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :!celebrate < 1389894780 778762 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389894784 179130 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1389894786 312179 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access /hackego/bin/rot256: No such file or directory < 1389894797 195897 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l `type -p rot256` < 1389894799 318380 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 9 Sep 25 13:06 /hackenv/bin/rot256 -> /bin/echo < 1389894813 243639 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate < 1389894813 465592 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/ < 1389894813 988577 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | c.c.c |  ¯|¯⌠ `\o/´69   | c.c.c |   `\o/´69  ¯|¯⌠ | c.c.c | < 1389894814 173592 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/|  c.c  |\ /< |   |    /<  c.c  >\    |     |\|/<  c.c /| < 1389894814 533960 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  /´¯|_)              /´\ < 1389894814 719445 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                (_|                 (_| |_) < 1389894816 611661 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1389894819 218560 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: tsk, you had the wrong directory. < 1389894820 721089 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c! < 1389894829 479644 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks FireFly. < 1389894862 852996 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wl < 1389894865 501394 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get NOTHING! You LOSE! Good DAY sir! < 1389894874 158719 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1389894927 661332 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is hackenv/bin not in PATH? < 1389894948 879303 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should be < 1389894955 493812 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird < 1389894958 483256 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $PATH < 1389894960 440137 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin < 1389894968 209043 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have rot0 in there but HackEgo errors when I try to run it < 1389894972 40684 :monotone_!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1389894978 58874 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wl en de hippopotamus < 1389894980 924028 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flusspferd < 1389894981 225871 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rot0 /dev/urandom < 1389894983 117088 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: rot0: command not found < 1389894990 750197 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run /hackenv/bin/rot0 /dev/urandom < 1389894992 28220 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l bin/rot0 < 1389894992 481543 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: /hackenv/bin/rot0: No such file or directory < 1389894994 301106 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 12 Jan 16 17:54 bin/rot0 -> /usr/bin/cat < 1389894996 353689 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389894998 794016 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1389894999 814533 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which cat < 1389895001 809032 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/cat < 1389895015 252258 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupid error messages < 1389895056 247014 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Made it echo rather than cat anyway < 1389895060 28934 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot0 Meow < 1389895062 708908 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow < 1389895103 59465 :monotone_!~monotone@room208.org NICK :polytone < 1389895108 23309 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wl en de Xenos < 1389895122 124925 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/wl", line 52, in \ q = query(continue_id) \ File "/hackenv/bin/wl", line 44, in query \ response = urllib2.urlopen(url).read() \ File "/opt/python27/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 126, in urlopen \ return _opener.open(url, data, timeout) \ File "/opt/python27/lib/ < 1389895133 589298 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay erros < 1389895169 228440 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wl en de Xenos < 1389895172 342807 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :My hovercraft is full of eels. < 1389895180 49221 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay. < 1389895189 817532 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It was meant to do that.) < 1389895190 825781 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was hu→en < 1389895197 458130 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/bin/wl is a fun read < 1389895254 430222 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: you have to find any wikipedia page with empty 'languages' block. < 1389895383 884969 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1389895410 452750 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wl sv en Pero micca < 1389895413 219348 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get NOTHING! You LOSE! Good DAY sir! < 1389895435 724201 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wl sv en "Pero micca" < 1389895436 94741 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run wl sv en "Pero micca" < 1389895436 279575 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1389895438 152301 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get NOTHING! You LOSE! Good DAY sir! < 1389895439 172839 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/wl", line 52, in \ q = query(continue_id) \ File "/hackenv/bin/wl", line 44, in query \ response = urllib2.urlopen(url).read() \ File "/opt/python27/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 126, in urlopen \ return _opener.open(url, data, timeout) \ File "/opt/python27/lib/ < 1389895455 242705 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`````````````````````````````````````````````````` < 1389895456 803224 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `````````````````````````````````````````````````: not found < 1389895472 774993 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thankjames < 1389895473 592716 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1389895474 314364 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, James. Thames. < 1389895475 260690 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :exec bash -c "$1" < 1389895540 455688 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 123 < 1389895543 992201 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :123 < 1389895578 405391 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $PATH < 1389895580 706124 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin < 1389895688 963073 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`env PATH < 1389895691 784105 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :env: PATH: No such file or directory < 1389895700 245841 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you have to grep it < 1389895706 491825 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, it takes a command to run < 1389895756 651571 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: huh? a special `thank case? < 1389895875 791137 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e'$,=",";print @ARGV,"\n"' $PATH < 1389895877 490730 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scalar found where operator expected at -e line 1, near "'$,=",";print @ARGV,"\n"' $PATH" \ (Missing operator before $PATH?) \ syntax error at -e line 1, next char $ \ Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors. < 1389895880 443621 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`̀thanks thanks < 1389895882 413539 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ̀thanks: not found < 1389895900 374207 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e'$,=",";print @ARGV,"\n"' $PATH < 1389895902 47723 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin, < 1389896006 665858 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Apparently, though I have no idea why. < 1389896022 810335 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat $(type -p thankjames) < 1389896024 395380 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks James < 1389896073 652142 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo ${PATH//:/ } < 1389896076 387197 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin /opt/python27/bin /opt/ghc/bin /usr/bin /bin < 1389896168 212741 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1389896184 657050 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which run < 1389896186 651491 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389896203 250241 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run which `run < 1389896205 55324 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1389896214 321646 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` which run < 1389896216 527428 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389896220 30440 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run which run < 1389896222 43388 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389896224 360340 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1389896233 302378 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wobbles < 1389896243 251973 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION bounces < 1389896278 109084 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run than run! < 1389896280 971866 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that* < 1389896281 903093 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: than: command not found < 1389896438 239014 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`info < 1389896440 191375 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :info: Writing node (dir)Top... \ File: dir, Node: Top This is the top of the INFO tree \ \ This (the Directory node) gives a menu of major topics. \ Typing "q" exits, "?" lists all Info commands, "d" returns here, \ "h" gives a primer for first-timers, \ "mEmacs" visits the Emacs manual, etc. \ \ In Emacs, you can click mouse bu < 1389896493 624965 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $IRC_SOCK < 1389896496 641859 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389896651 145651 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`man ls < 1389896654 925160 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :man: can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/manpath.config < 1389896666 266139 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`vi < 1389896701 81257 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it didn't like that < 1389896704 421432 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vim: Warning: Output is not to a terminal \ [?25h[?8c[?25h[?0c[?25l[?1c~ ~ ~ < 1389896706 641153 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /hackenv/share/maze.c < 1389896708 664095 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :main() { asm("xor %edi, %edi\n" "inc %edi\n" "mov %rsp, %rsi\n" "go: movl $0xb195e2, (%rsi)\n" "rdtsc\n" "and $1, %al\n" "add %al, 2(%rsi)\n" "mov %edi, %eax\n" "xor %edx, %edx\n" "mov $3, %dl\n" "syscall\n" "jmp go"); } < 1389896712 909565 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(huh?!) < 1389896728 721850 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackenv is cwd I'm fairly sure < 1389896742 134484 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pwd < 1389896777 717816 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run pwd < 1389896792 348597 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor thing < 1389896796 924027 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. it is stuck. < 1389896805 391585 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION unsticks HackEgo with his trusty mapole < 1389896829 361606 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389896851 927214 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1389896877 376624 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389896910 297020 :atrapado!~ddd@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389896910 788805 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389896941 865778 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1389896961 160526 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1389897022 895066 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :good boy < 1389897059 801345 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good mapole < 1389897481 430248 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1389897481 963905 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 161800Z 21006KT 15SM FEW030 FEW120 M01/M08 A2996 RMK CU1AC2 CU TR SLP147 < 1389897536 147950 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://0-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/tg/image/1336/15/1336155252526.jpg < 1389897581 937703 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1389897585 332295 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1389897604 275358 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh look, here's Urist! < 1389897694 443056 :atrapado!~ddd@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1389898261 215968 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should go back to dorf fortress < 1389898263 972006 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has been a while < 1389898286 450669 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanea < 1389898293 902491 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanea plays Minecrafs, Dware Fortresr, and lives in Hexhal. < 1389898351 66596 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :*playr, anc liver im? < 1389898374 307682 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i s/Hexhal/Yorj/ wisdom/tanea < 1389898377 784113 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389898423 27588 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's create a new world! < 1389898437 838571 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A fuck huge world < 1389899045 906971 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and call it Yorj! < 1389899072 603617 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I like the sound of “Yorj”. /jɔʁʒ/) < 1389899146 2540 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oh this looks like a great place to build a fortress!" < 1389899149 978143 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*snow everywhere* < 1389899150 948237 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noooo < 1389899442 439566 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval "With an updated cabal..." < 1389899443 152698 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"With an updated cabal..." < 1389899624 460079 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1389899906 328040 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389899932 305951 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389899955 15370 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389900213 372728 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1389900370 46097 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1389900843 403932 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Minecrafs", is there a point to that typo? < 1389900861 943664 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? .doorstop < 1389900864 782749 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do not have the clearance necessary to view this entry. < 1389901332 243083 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389901659 322833 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1389901844 564384 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1389901928 702785 :nchambers!~nchambers@2001:4870:a04e:2:cd1:5ca6:7d6f:a389 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389902199 988305 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1389902271 122971 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes < 1389902285 475610 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same point as with the other typns in that line < 1389902292 888556 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1389902717 894247 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1389902738 792111 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1389903001 292720 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :typns typns typns typns typns... ♪ < 1389903006 233014 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1389903628 182934 :nchambers!~nchambers@2001:4870:a04e:2:cd1:5ca6:7d6f:a389 NICK :DTSCode < 1389904242 157416 :DTSCode!~nchambers@2001:4870:a04e:2:cd1:5ca6:7d6f:a389 NICK :DTSCode-Work < 1389904535 777700 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I can't help but read that as a Patapon chant < 1389904545 292338 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck patapon < 1389904545 642477 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patapon is a video game published for the PlayStation Portable handheld game console combining gameplay features of a rhythm game and a god game. < 1389904579 121368 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do chants to spur your little force of warriors on in battle, or to give them commands such as "retreat". < 1389904658 763314 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a PSP :( < 1389904679 162366 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to control little characters by rhythming unpronounçable syllables! < 1389904730 507066 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@135-23-50-28.cpe.pppoe.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1389904787 189078 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I don't own a PSP either, I've only seen the game and thought it interesting. < 1389904859 942327 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION scands “tnuctip tnuctip tnuctip tnuctipun” < 1389905512 134904 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1389905588 969812 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't own a PSP either, but I have an annoyingly long list of PSP games that I'd like to play < 1389905613 501834 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats Nippon Ichi for not making more games for Nintendo consoles < 1389906682 239225 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1389906881 337685 :CADD_!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389906899 755290 :CADD_!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Client Quit < 1389906971 851238 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1389907179 496006 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1389907428 620990 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo test < 1389907428 901094 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1389907450 775374 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooookay... something weird happened to the metasepia logs. now everything is in bold light blue... < 1389907479 276255 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\033[1;31mtest < 1389907498 378152 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'[1;31mtest < 1389907518 750839 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -e '\e[1;31mhi boily' < 1389907528 321031 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​hi boily < 1389907535 563192 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1389907542 412127 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it worked. bold red. < 1389907560 541149 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -e '\e[0mnormality!' < 1389907562 661547 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​normality! < 1389907573 403797 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you want to strip control sequences < 1389907585 705399 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I really want to strip that stuff. < 1389907595 702045 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. time to disappear in the Great Cold Outside. < 1389907601 290861 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: REFRIGERATED CHICKEN < 1389907602 831364 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389907619 562980 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'\004aare you using irssi?\004a' < 1389907621 458080 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​aare you using irssi?a < 1389907674 580351 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what ^D would be mnemonic for < 1389907689 962752 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dammit" < 1389907690 683781 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, maybe some kind of extended colour thing? < 1389907700 701933 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering it's one after ^C < 1389907737 726993 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of the other IRC formatting control-codes are mnemonic, so I figure ^D would be too < 1389907743 857976 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1389907814 813158 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'are you using \004 < 1389907922 870676 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :\004,,, < 1389910341 809792 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :also LEM/PEM is called PO (Principle of Omniscience) by Bishop < 1389910595 834141 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and Markov's Principle, MP, is considered an Omniscience Principle (though not a Brouwerian one, but a Markovian one). so reducing something to it amounts to a Markovian (counter-)example, rather than a Brouwerian (counter-)example) < 1389910654 243138 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf : did the Escardó paper mention WLPO, or which ? < 1389910675 937819 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~mhe/papers/universe-indiscrete.pdf did < 1389910703 764554 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is related to a different question I was asking at one point. < 1389910753 464439 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, interesting, haven't read this one before < 1389910937 95884 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :, < 1389911275 410637 :atrapado!~dro@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1389911387 781916 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, Andrej Bauer responded to my post < 1389911448 420685 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There is another, fancy aprroach to this, called synthetic topology. Instead of doing all this computable stuff we just do ordinary topology, but we do it in intuitionistic logic. Then we can interpret such intuitionistic topology in any topos. When we pick the effective topos, we get back exactly computable topology." < 1389911513 723091 :nchambers!~nchambers@69-84-207-62.biz.arrival.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389911574 576830 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on < 1389911578 866998 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to make a cake < 1389911597 471446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is there a Greater Principle of Ignorance < 1389911796 510593 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I Don't Know. < 1389911908 396054 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive < 1389911910 870948 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :befuck < 1389911947 670867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently there's a Hawking's Principle of Ignorance. < 1389911961 331210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/espletive < 1389911963 43221 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :words --esolangs 5000 | grep -o "\w\+fuck\w*" || espletive < 1389912030 253596 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive < 1389912030 850087 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is 5000 too high? it (potentially) reduces the number of invocations, but I wasn't sure how much work `words is doing < 1389912033 585632 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck < 1389912057 841659 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :never heard about that language < 1389912061 953119 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ever. < 1389912064 120902 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive < 1389912066 283825 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck < 1389912085 582102 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run for f in $(seq 10); do espletive; done | xargs < 1389912088 705521 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. Seems to be stuck there. Earlier I got oozlybubblefuck, which doesn't appear on the wiki. < 1389912101 359996 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :blangintfuck brainfuck madbrainfuck befucks minifuck hydrainfuck alpainfuck infuck drainfuck rainfuck norfuck brainfuck < 1389912141 404940 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good program. < 1389912154 168734 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389912161 12367 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it should have infix fucks (infux) too < 1389912174 928519 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1389912179 671338 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it should. "\w\+fuck\w*" < 1389912194 11172 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it matched befucks at least < 1389912341 441724 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh missed that. < 1389912466 762593 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/espletive/exec espletive/' bin/espletive < 1389912470 785883 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389912473 850650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive < 1389912479 753959 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck \ norfuck \ brainfucks < 1389912484 318469 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1389912490 303568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1389912492 63910 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice job < 1389912503 705282 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1389912506 732132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive < 1389912509 100865 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :infuck < 1389912524 836186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh of course < 1389912547 560324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot exec while you're still running other commands in the pipeline :P < 1389912556 827555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but wait < 1389912565 575840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you _shouldn't_ be doing that, should you < 1389912643 958612 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` while ! words --esolangs 5000 | grep -o "\w\+fuck\w*"; do :; done < 1389912647 217012 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :crainfuck < 1389912675 987558 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389912696 902750 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389912787 992078 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/fuck/${1-fuck}' bin/espletive < 1389912789 580669 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 16: unterminated `s' command < 1389912804 6218 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/fuck/${1-fuck}/' bin/espletive; cat bin/espletive < 1389912808 286993 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :words --esolangs 5000 | grep -o "\w\+${1-fuck}\w*" || espletive < 1389912817 720966 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive < 1389912820 542842 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck \ skullfuck < 1389912824 359862 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive funk < 1389912827 259150 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :memfuck < 1389912833 675319 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run repeat 5 espletive < 1389912847 935958 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :crainfuck thatefuck celiumbrainfuck minifuck brainfuck ballfuck memfuck < 1389912870 411267 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat repeat < 1389912871 957219 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: repeat: No such file or directory < 1389912883 459537 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat $(which repeat) < 1389912885 228487 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :args=$* \ for f in $(seq $1); do ${args[@]:1} ; done | xargs < 1389912893 237387 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/"$@"/' bin/espletive; cat bin/espletive < 1389912897 516350 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :words --esolangs 5000 | grep -o "\w\+${1-fuck}\w*" || espletive"$@" < 1389912908 434617 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/"/ "/' bin/espletive; cat bin/espletive < 1389912912 110829 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :words --esolangs 5000 | grep -o "\w\+${1-fuck}\w*" || espletive"$@" < 1389912917 735308 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. < 1389912919 33703 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1389912921 977633 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1389912935 696816 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/"\$/ "$/' bin/espletive; cat bin/espletive < 1389912939 703153 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :words --esolangs 5000 | grep -o "\w\+${1-fuck}\w*" || espletive "$@" < 1389912946 371901 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive funk < 1389912963 983793 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no funk? or did I mess this up completely now? < 1389912977 743691 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389912985 560257 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive brain < 1389912991 535382 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :pbrainstateflip < 1389913007 846733 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive < 1389913010 755870 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :infuck < 1389913016 208712 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: very nice :) < 1389913027 482115 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.152 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could imagine no \w+funk < 1389913055 496010 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone with better sed skills than me should change that + to a * < 1389913089 518893 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --esolangs 5000 | wc < 1389913091 926924 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1 25 203 < 1389913094 592018 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/\+/*/' bin/espletive; cat bin/espletive < 1389913094 776702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --esolangs 5000 | wc < 1389913099 892000 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1 25 178 < 1389913101 199240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --esolangs 5000 | wc < 1389913101 912773 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :words --esolangs 5000 | grep -o "\w\*${1-fuck}\w*" || espletive "$@" < 1389913103 761503 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1 25 185 < 1389913117 804086 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/\\*/*/' bin/espletive; cat bin/espletive < 1389913121 583082 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*words --esolangs 5000 | grep -o "\w\*${1-fuck}\w*" || espletive "$@" < 1389913131 919587 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: methinks \* is not the same as * < 1389913136 292577 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah, no. < 1389913138 995242 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1389913140 314685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok if it only has one line, wtf does it sometimes print more than one hit < 1389913141 658251 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1389913142 526783 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: it's not. < 1389913147 267021 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/\\\*/*/' bin/espletive; cat bin/espletive < 1389913151 354302 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :words --esolangs 5000 | grep -o "\w*${1-fuck}\w*" || espletive "$@" < 1389913169 518150 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you mean when we were running it in loops? < 1389913177 31054 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run repeat 5 espletive < 1389913187 431911 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :infuck wordfuck migolfuck brainfuck memfuck golfuck norfuck < 1389913194 882691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: no, it did that sometimes even when run once < 1389913196 271054 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :can words --esolangs 5000 fail? < 1389913214 709406 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it can, hence the recursive tail < 1389913241 866416 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for i in $(seq 10); do words --esolangs 5000 > /dev/null || echo fail!; done < 1389913243 829041 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, `grep can fail... I don't actually know if `words can fail. < 1389913248 387881 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389913276 254134 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still confused how espletive can produce several words in a single run. < 1389913297 981284 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, never mind < 1389913335 19072 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't know about that `` shortcut for `run... < 1389913377 112148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1389913426 494968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive < 1389913432 278103 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck < 1389913437 746520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive < 1389913441 584899 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :timefuck \ brainfuck < 1389913448 584853 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic! < 1389913463 88651 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.. oh! < 1389913466 167178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/espletive < 1389913467 603368 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :words --esolangs 5000 | grep -o "\w*${1-fuck}\w*" || espletive "$@" < 1389913474 24809 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's because `words sometimes produces multiple lines < 1389913484 606682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it? < 1389913486 544411 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sometimes more than one line matches the regex < 1389913491 712683 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That must be it < 1389913493 455167 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --esolangs 5000 | wc < 1389913493 661254 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/-o/-o -m 1/' bin/expletive; cat bin/espletive < 1389913494 149738 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1389913494 334507 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             >\ < 1389913495 264690 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1 25 166 < 1389913495 449301 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: can't read bin/expletive: No such file or directory \ words --esolangs 5000 | grep -o "\w*${1-fuck}\w*" || espletive "$@" < 1389913505 698554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --esolangs 5000 | wc < 1389913507 442051 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/-o/-o -m 1/' bin/espletive; cat bin/espletive < 1389913507 741897 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1389913507 927231 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1 25 185 < 1389913507 927371 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            /^\ < 1389913511 721396 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :words --esolangs 5000 | grep -o -m 1 "\w*${1-fuck}\w*" || espletive "$@" < 1389913519 378507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: i haven't managed to make it do that... < 1389913536 870916 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :-o/, really? < 1389913539 227619 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --esolangs 5000 | wc < 1389913542 437676 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1 25 204 < 1389913548 651867 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm < 1389913555 152994 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happened with my output < 1389913575 138420 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo a b c | grep -o '[^ ]' < 1389913577 194163 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :a \ b \ c < 1389913583 375319 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --esolangs 50 | wc < 1389913585 486256 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo a b c | grep -o -m 1 '[^ ]' < 1389913586 123632 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1 25 181 < 1389913587 220818 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :a \ b \ c < 1389913595 272122 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so -m doesn't help. grmbl. < 1389913598 248691 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1389913601 178069 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1389913610 987524 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :head -n 1 ? < 1389913640 450990 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/||/| head -1 ||/' bin/espletive; cat bin/espletive < 1389913643 934892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh -o takes more than one hit? < 1389913644 974124 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :words --esolangs 5000 | grep -o "\w*${1-fuck}\w*" | head -1 || espletive "$@" < 1389913652 140917 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1389913669 973364 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :from man grep: Print only the matched (non-empty) parts of a matching line, with each such part on a separate output line. < 1389913767 950619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd do it. < 1389913777 411222 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this proved more amusing than I thought it would... < 1389913808 651057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive < 1389913810 841303 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389913822 63068 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU DON'T SAY < 1389913831 334552 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(head might always succeed) < 1389913836 553951 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :grand. < 1389913871 306380 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh. hmm. < 1389913905 993646 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe after the recursive call? < 1389913914 627676 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1389913920 32069 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1389913923 10551 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1389913942 947189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the number of nested processes isn't going to reduce by this... < 1389913948 450957 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/ | head -1/' bin/espletive; cat bin/espletive < 1389913952 810012 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :words --esolangs 5000 | grep -o "\w*${1-fuck}\w*" || espletive "$@" | head -1 < 1389913953 711608 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we care? < 1389913960 856072 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive < 1389913963 497095 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :haifuck < 1389913988 741631 :atrapado!~dro@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389914025 223315 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :We *could* turn it into a loop. < 1389914032 66510 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1389914108 609758 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/\(.*\)||.*|/while ! \1; do :; done |/' bin/espletive; cat bin/espletive < 1389914112 536217 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :while ! words --esolangs 5000 | grep -o "\w*${1-fuck}\w*" ; do :; done | head -1 < 1389914131 973074 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive < 1389914135 222018 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :norfuck < 1389914139 311149 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive brain < 1389914142 792061 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainlove < 1389914157 205306 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive normal < 1389914176 860335 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that Andrej Bauer commented on my post I don't want to delete it anymore. :-( < 1389914188 418384 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389914202 82529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: fiendish < 1389914241 587943 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you happier now? < 1389914258 582974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :slightly < 1389914259 910278 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is oerjan a fiend < 1389914270 282639 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive hell < 1389914275 315262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly i'm a fr?iend < 1389914286 174537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :will you buy my soul < 1389914288 61061 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell < 1389914312 982479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, all out of infernal cash < 1389914373 367472 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive argh < 1389914380 112575 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive gon < 1389914385 351524 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :forthagonal < 1389914394 172126 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1389914395 701968 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I want to make forthagonal < 1389914413 355099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does sound promising < 1389914423 457651 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` espletive ' ' < 1389914428 585545 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :pointer minimallenter < 1389914484 141049 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run for i in $(seq 5); do espletive gon; done | xargs < 1389914498 962491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :` espletive .* < 1389914500 251874 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1389914511 941006 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :shogonatorycombie thagonal pogonata pogonata thagonal < 1389914524 158562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1389914527 845232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive .* < 1389914530 431076 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :redcodan iota zt xsm q-ball /// c-lon rever2pi bytejump nump redgree kayak tree aargfak p'' tri divzeros bf-pda tg that trits objector mine adjust tlwnn < 1389914574 962146 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. Validation of arguments is left as an exercise to the first one to complain about this feature. < 1389914705 605067 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive sex < 1389914716 534770 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` espletive '[0-9]\{2\}' # surely this is a feature < 1389914718 541301 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ozone9000 < 1389914736 986880 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389914742 847071 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I not surprised? < 1389914795 950697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: istr searching for "sex" on the wiki and the only mention was ironically on Taneb's user page. although that was whole-word only. < 1389914872 862065 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive ex < 1389914881 821210 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hex < 1389914977 923225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not as a substring either on either of language or joke language lists < 1389915007 706033 :augur!~augur@pool-108-48-208-82.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389915048 146809 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1389915177 993980 :peapodamus!~nodepony@e2.bc.425e.cidr.airmail.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389915289 563154 :peapodamus!~nodepony@e2.bc.425e.cidr.airmail.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389916677 776649 :augur!~augur@pool-108-48-208-82.washdc.east.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1389916790 74075 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@135-23-50-28.cpe.pppoe.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds