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Whatever the heck it wants to! What do you mean, this one is supposed to trigger a bunch of event handlers? 02:48:29 what does an a -> Num do when you pass it an a who knows 02:57:07 -!- SpaceWizard has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 03:07:36 Sgeo: it doesn't do anything 03:08:05 but as for the IO actions themselves, yes, the lack of type information about effects can be problematic 03:11:42 you want event handlers to be able to do arbitrary IO anyway, generally 03:11:46 so this is not a very good example 03:13:39 ^ 03:13:57 ^^ 03:24:36 In general, would using reactive-banana just for its AddHandler be a bad idea? 03:28:47 there's always money in the banana stand 03:29:44 ^^^^^ 03:31:32 So yeah... I'm pretty certain I'm going to bite the LastPass bullet soon 03:35:03 "OpenSSL uses a custom freelist for connection buffers because long ago and far away, malloc was slow." so i think i'd like to declare a blood oath against C 03:35:52 pfft C is easy, just don't make any mistakes ever 03:36:02 you shouldn't be programming if you're the sort of person who would ever make a mistake 03:38:48 also you have to hate the idea of standard libraries? 03:39:13 What sort of vulnerabilities would crypto in Haskell be particularly likely to be vulnerable to, compared to liklihood of vulnerabilties of reimplementation in more conventional languages? 03:39:21 Side-channel attacks based on timing? 03:40:33 -!- copumpkin has joined. 03:46:28 The amusing thing about this is, most of these bugs aren't entirely from C being bad, but from the coders being *profoundly moronic and awful*. With C just making the consequences of it worse. 03:48:48 http://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/22p50z/sub400_btc_here_we_go/cgp0gwy 03:49:20 Not commenting on the rest of it, but that $500/coin to mine figure, would the cost go down with fewer miners competing? 03:50:25 yeah 03:50:29 others in the thread point this out 03:51:26 the cost per GH/s won't go down, but the revenue per GH/s will go up 03:51:47 or should that just be cost per GH? anyway 03:53:03 ~coins 03:53:04 ~coins 03:53:06 `coins 03:53:07 toadcoin boudcoin falcoin sansiscoin libedtcoin whostepchcoin acfcoin consurfcoin zustcoin patncoin dnagecoin adnestcoin ntcmcoin eloopcoin attoacoin niedcoin revelacoin smyrmatinucoin golcoin devcoin 03:53:30 So much for being unregulatable. One government's actions is enough to drastically hurt the price 03:53:52 which actions are those 03:54:26 http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/04/10/bitcoin-prices-down-10-after-chinese-banks-cut-off-local-exchanges/ 03:54:34 I thought that happened months ago 03:54:38 I guess something new happened 03:54:42 -!- Sorella has quit (Quit: It is tiem!). 03:55:09 it was always super volatile 03:55:25 "To be fair, if 1 BTC equaled 390 BTC that wouldn't be bad for bitcoin at all." 03:55:29 http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/22q9tr/when_bitcoin_drops_to_390_btc_one_man_dares_to/ 03:56:06 http://i.imgur.com/ZNN5zrn.png good point 03:56:46 lol 03:58:26 It would be nice if the technical stuff behind bitcoin allowed it to be useful without it being a vehicle for continuous speculation 03:58:54 There may be something good about having a cryptocurrency, but I don't think 'wild price changes you may get lucky on' is it 04:00:03 i mean, that's something more specific than continuous speculation 04:00:08 every market has continuous speculation 04:00:20 If you trade bitcoin in real life, its exchange rate will move in real life 04:01:05 -!- conehead has joined. 04:02:09 Is StartSSL still evil? 04:02:39 More so than usual with the recent Heartbleed issue. 04:02:59 I didn't consider it evil before Heartbleed 04:03:16 -!- copumpkin has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 04:03:31 It still disincentivizes good security practices, it just happens to have not been very relevant until just now. :) 04:05:23 The non-existence of free certs also isincentivizes good security practices 04:05:28 *disincentivizes 04:05:45 It's more the complete and utter insanity of the CA system that does that. 04:06:09 "Trust is hard. So trust this list of companies ENTIRELY!" is just... insane. 04:08:36 i,i "truth is hard, so trust these axioms entirely!" 04:09:09 Free certs, are you suggesting we should lower the cost of someone jacking your router from $20 to zero 04:10:04 routerjacking.xxx 04:10:40 yeah, sure would suck if mathematicians dedicated themselves to finding the Right axioms 04:10:46 anyway What Is Life is p. good i recommend it 04:13:09 there is an online catagory theory demonstrator 04:13:47 http://www.j-paine.org/cgi-bin/webcats/webcats.php 04:14:45 Jafet: StartSSL free certs are already accepted by the major OSes/browsers, afaik 04:16:25 Does LastPass have a feature to import saved Chrome passwords? 04:16:28 That would be convenient 04:20:18 I'm still waiting for Honest Lexande's Discount Certificates 04:21:06 -!- variable has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 04:21:15 Yeah, I should clear out root certs here 04:21:23 Maybe I should remove all root certs 04:21:34 And use certpatrol manually 04:22:01 But first, any root that signs intermediates 04:22:58 `run openssl genrsa -out /tmp/root-ca.key 4096 04:22:59 WARNING: can't open config file: /usr/lib/ssl/openssl.cnf \ Generating RSA private key, 4096 bit long modulus \ ..........++ \ .++ \ e is 65537 (0x10001) 04:23:04 you might even succeed in making SSL annoying enough to use that you just use http intsead 04:24:53 hey has anyone noticed that statistical mechanics is balls out crazy 04:26:04 elliott: to be fair http://i.imgur.com/jfGMMyL.png 04:28:04 `revert 04:28:08 Done. 04:28:24 There, airgapped 04:28:30 brilliant 04:28:40 military grade cryptography 04:29:05 the default is 1024 bits :'( 04:29:41 whast's wrong with 1024 04:29:51 too small 04:30:10 but it's like, ovre twice as much as 400 bits 04:30:18 kmc would prefer 2048 bits 04:30:32 :D 04:31:35 The real thing that surprises me with default military grade being 1024 is that it's not like it would be that expensive for them to say "1024 is accepted but all new keys are 4096" 04:32:59 You don't understand, "military grade" just means "iraqi rebels can't hack into our drones using 20-year-old PCs" 04:33:11 It also sometimes means "RAM heatsinks" 04:33:37 important to stay warm 04:34:12 japanese solid capacitors 04:42:28 -!- tromp_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:43:01 -!- tromp_ has joined. 04:47:18 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 04:53:49 -!- oklopol has joined. 04:59:48 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Quit: leaving). 05:12:09 -!- nisstyre has quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3). 05:15:36 -!- variable has joined. 05:15:36 -!- variable has quit (Changing host). 05:15:36 -!- variable has joined. 05:22:20 -!- password2 has joined. 05:25:48 -!- ^v has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 05:26:14 -!- ^v has joined. 05:28:58 If Heartbleed is 11 on a scale of 1-10, what is 'mathematicians have found a very fast way to factor any number' be? 05:29:30 420 05:29:40 11*11 05:29:50 well, factorization could be in P without P = NP, right? 05:29:58 yeah 05:30:04 yeah 05:30:15 so you could base a cryptosystem on discrete log or w/e right 05:30:25 yeah 05:30:45 like elliptic curve crypto 05:30:48 RSA is pretty widely used though 05:30:50 i guess "RSA doesn't work" would still be pretty bad, practically speaking, huh 05:30:53 right 05:31:10 it would be pretty bad. but not nearly as bad as "private key crypto doesn't wokr 05:31:40 but it's a lot worse than everyone's private keys getting leaked once 05:34:35 «Note that this final London equation does not contain instantaneous dipoles (see molecular dipoles). The "explanation" of the dispersion force as the interaction between two such dipoles was invented after London arrived at the proper quantum mechanical theory.» can someone explain to me how chemistry, the science, is even possible 05:35:46 Bike: btw you would like quantum crypto 05:35:55 are you sure 05:36:09 that's not a joke or anything it just doesn't seem like i would 05:39:36 i'm reading a seminontechnical schrodinger thing and he more or less gave up on explaining quantum jumps except that they happen, it kind of rules 05:41:27 i like post-quantum crypto 05:44:46 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Page closed). 05:49:31 Bike: not totally sure 05:49:36 but I think you would 05:50:03 right now i would like to understand stat mechanics. it seems slightly different from quantum crypto, but then it is connected to info theory... 06:00:30 Statistical mechanics doesn't use much information theory 06:00:43 Just that you try to guess at the microstates from the macrostate 06:01:39 * Bike points at szilard engine 06:01:45 And the lack of knowledge between the two is basically what constitutes entropy 06:11:32 -!- oklopol has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 06:14:11 http://copy.sh/v24/ 06:16:21 oh, right. and chemical entropy is shannon entropy times boltzmann. 06:29:29 -!- Slereahphone has joined. 06:31:08 -!- ^v has quit (Quit: http://i.imgur.com/DrFFzea.png). 06:31:51 That quit message is racist against chinamen 06:32:03 not the preferred nomenclature 06:33:55 -!- Slereahphone has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:34:02 "continually sucking orderliness" 06:34:39 -!- Slereahphone has joined. 06:51:16 -!- Slereahphone has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:00:43 [wiki] [[Rebmu]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=39283 * Zom-B * (+2118) Created page with "Rebmu is an esoterical code-[[golf]] dialect of Rebol, made by HostileFork. ==Overview== The underlying language is case-insensitive, so it uses CAPSalternationTOseparateTOKE..." 07:00:49 -!- MoALTz has joined. 07:03:51 [wiki] [[Rebmu]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39284&oldid=39283 * Zom-B * (+263) 07:06:12 I don't know if I should try to smuggle that ^ wiki update bridge into the start script of HackEgo, or if that would be presumptuous, or if it's even a good idea in general. 07:12:48 -!- Slereahphone has joined. 07:21:20 -!- MoALTz has quit (Quit: brb). 07:34:39 -!- MoALTz has joined. 07:46:27 http://xkcd.com/1354/ So how accurate is this 07:49:34 -!- MindlessDrone has joined. 07:50:40 "Lactarius xanthogalactus" is a pretty effing cool name 07:52:30 Milky weird-milk? 07:53:11 yellow-milked milk-cap 07:53:22 xantho is yellow, not weird 07:53:30 Bike knows 07:53:42 well i got no idea about galactus 07:53:46 other than the planet eater dude 07:55:22 Well, "Galaxy" is from the greek for milky way 07:55:29 I mean, literally "Milky Way" 07:55:51 hum, so it is 07:56:00 yes TIL as well 07:56:07 though it sounds like the kind of thing I would have known and forgotten 07:56:23 but really isn't all learning just remembering 07:56:40 going for the double greek, are we 07:57:51 :D 08:09:34 -!- mtve has quit (Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0). 08:27:00 -!- MoALTz_ has joined. 08:27:58 -!- MoALTz has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 08:28:09 -!- Patashu has joined. 08:28:31 -!- Patashu has quit (Disconnected by services). 08:28:31 -!- Patashu[Zzz] has joined. 08:53:05 -!- cool has joined. 08:53:37 hey did you guys see the european open source meeting talk? 08:55:06 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jQoAYRKqhg 08:58:27 openssl is dead 09:09:00 I wouldn't bet on it 09:11:21 -!- xpte has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 09:35:29 -!- S1 has joined. 09:40:53 -!- cool has quit (Quit: Page closed). 10:02:59 -!- Slereahphone has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 10:15:26 -!- yorick has joined. 10:19:04 -!- oerjan has joined. 10:29:18 Side-channel attacks based on timing? <-- that's my hunch anyway. 10:30:03 assuming an attacker cannot also track memory use. 10:30:49 I think I've read about things like cache-timing attacks on AES. 10:31:03 Which I guess would be a subclass of "memory use". 10:31:43 fizzie: btw i left out the context that this was about haskell 10:31:52 which is safe in so many other ways. 10:32:29 That's all right, since I did see the context. 10:32:33 ok 10:33:29 that's like tracking memory use _via_ time use... 10:34:26 -!- SpaceWizard has joined. 10:39:44 -!- MoALTz_ has quit (Quit: brb). 10:39:56 -!- MoALTz has joined. 10:47:44 -!- yorick has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 10:48:34 -!- nucular has joined. 10:48:46 -!- nucular has quit (Changing host). 10:48:47 -!- nucular has joined. 10:49:31 -!- Slereahphone has joined. 10:50:24 -!- Slereahphone has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 10:52:13 These spam emails from (predominantly Chinese) manufacturers of this and that (mostly) industrial thing are curious. 10:52:35 One wouldn't assume them to have much of a success rate, but maybe it's a large enough epsilon to be worth it. 10:53:42 (Or maybe they have some other purpose. Does anyone know?) 10:53:54 -!- yorick has joined. 10:55:01 Here's a sample I just got, delivered to an obviously-harvested-from-web role address just now: http://sprunge.us/ceGW 10:55:46 they're secretly commands to the chinese hacker botnets, they're just sent indiscriminately so no one will notice where the real machines are hth 11:04:07 tdh 11:05:10 -!- S1 has left. 11:08:45 -!- Patashu[Zzz] has changed nick to Patashu. 11:10:11 -!- password2 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 11:11:59 -!- password2 has joined. 11:15:34 fizzie: that reminds me of http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/15/opinion/sunday/the-cybercrime-wave-that-wasnt.html?_r=0 11:36:14 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep). 11:46:18 -!- SpaceWizard has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 11:48:54 -!- olsner has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 11:52:48 `revert 11:52:50 Done. 11:53:25 @tell Jafet before `reverting, you should check that your command actually changed something, otherwise you'll revert the previous change instead. 11:53:26 Consider it noted. 11:59:23 I see, /tmp isn't tracked 11:59:55 `pwd 11:59:56 ​/hackenv 11:59:59 only that 12:01:06 -!- olsner has joined. 12:11:25 -!- SpaceWizard has joined. 12:18:05 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 12:19:30 -!- Tod-Autojoined has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 12:19:43 -!- Tod-Autojoined has joined. 12:34:36 -!- tromp_ has joined. 12:34:41 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 12:38:34 -!- password2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:40:05 -!- password2 has joined. 12:40:23 -!- tromp has joined. 12:45:57 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:46:33 -!- tromp has joined. 12:51:05 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 12:51:36 -!- password2 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 12:56:07 -!- nooodl has joined. 13:09:29 -!- impomatic has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 13:18:56 -!- Sellyme has quit (Excess Flood). 13:20:09 -!- S1 has joined. 13:20:52 -!- Sellyme has joined. 13:25:35 -!- SpaceWizard has quit (Quit: Leaving). 13:26:04 -!- SpaceWizard has joined. 13:32:51 -!- S1 has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 13:55:38 [wiki] [[Language list]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39285&oldid=39247 * 88.162.181.62 * (+9) 14:06:38 That can't be right, but I don't have time to look into it right now. 14:07:01 (They added "F#" to the language list, but that just works out as a link to F.) 14:07:28 maybe it should be Fsharp 14:08:18 -!- SpaceWizard has quit (Quit: Leaving). 14:08:46 -!- SpaceWizard has joined. 14:08:47 -!- SpaceWizard has quit (Changing host). 14:08:47 -!- SpaceWizard has joined. 14:24:53 -!- Patashu has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 14:29:22 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 14:30:51 [wiki] [[Talk:Smartboxes]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39286&oldid=39274 * Oerjan * (+95) Move signature to end, question 14:35:02 [wiki] [[Language list]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39287&oldid=39285 * Oerjan * (-9) Undo revision 39285 by [[Special:Contributions/88.162.181.62|88.162.181.62]] ([[User talk:88.162.181.62|talk]]) (Not esoteric, and the page is not about it.) 14:44:09 -!- ^v has joined. 15:00:24 -!- variable has changed nick to trout. 15:15:29 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 15:30:27 -!- oerjan has joined. 15:32:32 -!- SpaceWizard has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 15:33:18 -!- oerjan has quit (Client Quit). 16:25:31 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 16:27:19 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 16:27:25 -!- SpaceWizard has joined. 16:33:37 -!- password2 has joined. 16:49:48 -!- yorick has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:01:04 -!- jconn has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:09:27 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 17:10:56 -!- MoALTz has quit (Quit: Leaving). 17:11:16 Grumble frumble mips-elf-objdump doesn't have a similar "use information from DYNAMIC phdr entry instead" flag that mips-elf-readelf has; it can't disassemble these binaries at all. (I've used readelf + dd-with-offsets + objdump -b binary as a workaround, but it's very uncomfortable.) 17:13:09 (For one thing, I need to manually cross-reference all GOT offsets and such.) 17:17:12 -!- jconn has joined. 17:17:54 -!- lambdabot has quit (Quit: brb). 17:18:03 -!- zzo38 has joined. 17:22:34 -!- lambdabot has joined. 17:35:04 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 17:40:15 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 17:49:01 Does anyone have experience with compiling BASIC-like Languages to languages without computed gotos? 17:49:11 http://codepad.org/ib8s3lEB <- this approach works 17:49:29 but it's prone to stack overflows 17:50:27 (that's C# btw.) 17:52:30 I also figured I could keep a list of delegates 17:52:41 which tell's me which function I have to call next 17:53:09 that way I could probably avoid that 17:53:33 -!- MindlessDrone has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 17:54:30 There's the single-function giant-dispatcher approach. 17:56:32 there is the Statement s = LINE1; while (!quit) { s = s.invoke(); } approach. 17:56:50 (poor man's CPS) 17:58:37 You could also adopt something like the "Cheney on the M.T.A." trick, but it's perhaps not that doable in C#. 17:59:12 http://codepad.org/eSHjKVYa <- this works 17:59:57 keeping a list of delegates. and a GOTO changes the index of the next called function 18:00:25 (and no GOTO just increases the index) 18:01:01 To do something similar I have just used a case block, where the labels are just case and goto is replaced by an assignment and then continue the outer loop. 18:04:49 alright. 18:04:57 I think I can have this thing going by tomorrow :D 18:05:35 aka Write Yourself a crappy BASIC compiler in a day :) 18:09:51 -!- MindlessDrone has joined. 18:09:52 -!- MoALTz has joined. 18:18:46 `coins 18:18:47 imminicoin lnncoin greocoin nyrcoin alpitchcoin smalcoin fortcoin anemailwariathcoin theshccoin chercoin grapecoin wheecoin fernacoin son-textenchcoin longcoin balcoin lintolercoin nesancoin sfulcoin empiuertcoin 18:20:19 smal[l]coin 18:21:05 smellcoin 18:29:41 -!- Slereah has joined. 18:30:44 -!- Slereah_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 18:40:19 [wiki] [[Smartboxes]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39288&oldid=39278 * Zerk * (+10) Clarified indentation slightly; "[same _Y _Y]" is my new favourite way to specify letrec XD 19:01:27 [wiki] [[Nock]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=39289 * Zerk * (+1425) TODO: actual article. I think copying the official docs wouldn't be a license conflict? 19:01:44 [wiki] [[Talk:Smartboxes]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39290&oldid=39286 * Zerk * (+415) 19:08:38 -!- Slereah_ has joined. 19:12:07 -!- Slereah has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 19:12:54 -!- Slereah has joined. 19:13:30 -!- Slereah_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 19:14:57 -!- Slereah has quit (Client Quit). 19:29:56 -!- Slereah_ has joined. 19:53:17 -!- MindlessDrone has quit (Quit: MindlessDrone). 19:55:28 -!- impomatic has joined. 19:57:23 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 20:26:18 -!- password2 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 20:34:21 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 20:38:03 what would be a good name for a language based on a statemachine that can be in an arbitrary superposition of states? 20:38:44 THE QUANTUM MACHINE 20:38:52 powerstate machine 20:38:59 The Power 20:39:09 because the state is actually out of the powerset of states, rather than the set, see 20:40:33 ok powerstate it is 20:40:46 -!- password2 has joined. 20:42:16 Its more of a fuzzy powerset really 20:42:32 probability assigned to each state? 20:43:11 The Love Machine 9000 20:43:31 not probability, canonicalness 20:44:02 Uh? 20:44:19 Does this involve a priesT? 20:45:20 its state is holographic so it responds in proportion to how similar it's current state is to the set of states 20:45:32 it makes sense I promis 20:53:01 -!- Frooxius has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 20:54:38 -!- Frooxius has joined. 21:03:13 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:03:46 -!- oerjan has joined. 21:20:42 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 21:36:49 -!- Slereah has joined. 21:39:01 -!- Slereah_ has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 21:41:19 -!- ^v has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 21:41:41 -!- ^v has joined. 21:49:35 I found one case in Rust where let mut x = ...; f(x) can end up modifying x 21:49:37 :( 21:51:03 that's one of the worst things about C++, and Rust generally avoids it 21:51:23 well I don't know, there's a lot of competition for "worst things about C++" 21:56:10 -!- MoALTz has quit (Quit: brb). 21:57:19 -!- copumpkin has joined. 21:57:39 -!- MoALTz has joined. 21:59:30 C++ killed my parents :( 22:03:10 -!- nucular has quit (Quit: Switching to the phone). 22:07:42 -!- drlemon_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:08:10 -!- drlemon has joined. 22:08:53 -!- yorick has joined. 22:15:34 [wiki] [[Talk:Nock]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=39291 * Doesthiswork * (+172) Created page with "After reading about the Urbit project, Nock and Hoon are definitely esoteric ~~~~" 22:17:54 -!- Frooxius has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 22:26:22 [wiki] [[User:Doesthiswork]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=39292 * Doesthiswork * (+763) notes on holographic reduced representation 22:39:52 -!- conehead has joined. 22:40:17 -!- tromp has joined. 22:48:02 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Page closed). 22:49:07 https://plus.google.com/111605401594472745199/posts/BBarZAT9wCM 22:49:30 :) 22:50:10 -!- Sgeo has joined. 22:51:06 -!- Patashu has joined. 22:58:23 -!- Sorella has joined. 23:10:15 argh easter is next week 23:11:48 * oerjan wows never to trust shop assistants again 23:13:12 (because of this, i might have sent flowers to someone who is already on vacation) 23:14:19 *may 23:21:45 -!- yorick has quit (Remote host closed the connection).