< 1397692838 388393 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cromulent. < 1397693077 888849 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda wonder how hard it is to design a simple cpu, video rendering chip or sound playing chip < 1397693202 528828 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, sound playing is the easiest. a few simple wave generators, subtractive synthesis, and you're golden. < 1397693218 532092 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1397693228 127735 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, you could design one with only basic discrete components. < 1397693235 658443 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and a few logic gates if you wanna be fancy.) < 1397693248 668999 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't the filter require multipliers? < 1397693274 8903 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in some feedback configuration < 1397693319 361625 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :op amps. I always forget op amps. < 1397693327 48712 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in verilog? < 1397693332 262052 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeeeh... < 1397693342 198711 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you have them. I'd be very surprised if you didn't. < 1397693372 375992 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but then, my understanding of verilog is quite limited and backwards, as I had urging deadlines and ethereal teammates to manage...) < 1397693427 989571 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if xcircuit is still maintained... “I have fond memories of that buggy and crashy piece of software...” < 1397693499 823387 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, the one I've played around with is HADES < 1397693505 390160 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's digital only < 1397693539 853926 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xcircuit is only for drawing. it was quite nice, when it was running. < 1397693585 238772 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I used something from xilinx a long time ago. < 1397693677 332458 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhmm < 1397693729 90973 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could tape together 2 or 3 oscillators, pass through a textbook filter and multiply for volume yeah < 1397693740 364336 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then replicate 6 times for a whole synth < 1397693823 432121 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very efficient but easy to design < 1397693936 817009 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once combined a lo- and a hi-pass filter to make a no-pass filter. the end result was... unusual. < 1397694035 250963 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :filters were never too interesting to implement in sound LSIs < 1397694070 318483 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :until they became so large that they could just spend the extra multipliers on them < 1397694096 979039 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wavetable-based chips such as the soundblaster awe-32) < 1397694292 743885 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397695161 287411 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397695161 538378 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Changing host < 1397695161 723926 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1397695411 98644 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397695707 173618 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1397695772 277959 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rxnm.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/image_thumb12.png?w=887&h=566 Meanwhile, science progresses < 1397695888 920336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you trying to point out the irony of the article vs. the number in the top bar < 1397695904 312461 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1397695910 773995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1397695922 988696 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :his impact factor is over 9,000 < 1397696140 206203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: perhaps you should stay away from inhabited planets twh < 1397696156 144192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :every planet we reach is dead < 1397696171 410925 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't actually know how impact factor is calculated. could you have 9000? is there like a singularity somewhere < 1397696190 677701 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's gauss's impact factor < 1397696190 893505 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe over 1000 or so means everyone on earth is constantly thinking about your paper on cockroach neuroendocrine cells < 1397696199 61084 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is an impact factor? against what is it impacted? < 1397696223 240584 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a measure of your science penis < 1397696223 426256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :impalas < 1397696235 318877 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also imps < 1397696260 817862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic shouldn't feel too safe, either < 1397696271 193908 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's actually pretty simple: a journal's impact factor is number of citations of papers / number of papers written < 1397696299 238712 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The impact factor is based on the arithmetic mean number of citations per paper, yet citation counts follow a Bradford distribution (i.e., a power law distribution) and therefore the arithmetic mean is a statistically inappropriate measure." scientists are so awesomely bad at stats < 1397696381 585343 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so, if I unabashedly mapole impomatic, I can augment my Factor? < 1397696436 930257 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Annual Review of Immunology had the highest in 2006, apparently < 1397696441 396137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor 9000 < 1397696442 35169 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9000: 2 2 2 3 3 5 5 5 < 1397696482 437431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: there's also a danger of both your factor and impomatic being smashed to little primes < 1397696553 233832 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mushroomobserver.org/image/show_image/386349?q=1uvb6&size=full_size < 1397696573 630082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: clearly they should simply define the new Power Impact which takes this into account < 1397696575 663689 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: do you accept being a victim^Wvaluable contributor to a scientific experience of utmost importance? < 1397696683 432460 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i take it the flavor just rolls off your tongue < 1397696699 899616 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1397696771 369827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :douglass_: btw the nick thiotimoline is vacant here hth < 1397696791 261382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can register multiple nicks to the same nickserv account < 1397696809 685704 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there's an elaboration where you weigh cites based on the citing journal's impact factor, like PageRank. it's fucking crazy < 1397696985 921981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes but thiotimoline hasn't been registered yet. nor has douglass_ fwiw < 1397696998 135834 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1397697001 197223 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was to douglass_ not you < 1397697011 328146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1397697062 118085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's some limit but i'm pretty sure it's higher than 3 (i just have the 2) < 1397697130 817694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: clearly they should use the improved bfjoust algorithm. < 1397697131 549742 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1397697140 432233 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that would make sense < 1397697356 696903 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elo ratings < 1397697390 753588 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck elo < 1397697391 433407 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1397697411 778968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello elo < 1397697412 611543 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1397697413 420081 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupide bot de mes deux de pas foutu de trouver de l'information quand qu'on lui demande non mais tsé quand même... < 1397697440 231417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello hm < 1397697440 960338 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1397697447 575907 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hello < 1397697448 166660 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo Hello < 1397697448 933716 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks ants < 1397697449 543281 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, ants. Thants. < 1397697455 788624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ello elo < 1397697456 121587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks Hanks < 1397697456 686998 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elello < 1397697456 872431 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Hanks. Thanks. < 1397697514 863939 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBHjx4dYxjA&t=2m20s my daily commute < 1397697550 778640 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1397697568 719130 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the part where individuals from different generations walk side by side < 1397697594 850153 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: why do people throw boxes at you on your commute < 1397697615 276697 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :They think I'm ugly since I'm made of boxes < 1397697617 452828 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :racism is terrible < 1397697632 365637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they see me boxin', they hatin' < 1397697646 73348 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dinosaurs falling over rule though yes < 1397697657 891923 :JZTech102!jztech101@crabhost.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1397697658 77488 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey it could be worse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBHjx4dYxjA&t=3m10s < 1397697727 184848 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397697727 492155 :JZTech101!jztech101@botters/jztech101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397697755 590335 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i laughed out loud at that < 1397697756 835899 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like why < 1397697761 949704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1397697911 854267 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1397697995 60065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :et moi aussi < 1397698226 801244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone may have found a fly in the ointment of that inflation discovery http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2014/apr/10/have-galactic-radio-loops-been-mistaken-for-b-mode-polarization < 1397698412 546210 :JZTech102!jztech101@crabhost.org NICK :JZTech101 < 1397698413 262275 :JZTech101!jztech101@crabhost.org QUIT :Changing host < 1397698413 447958 :JZTech101!jztech101@botters/jztech101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397698444 69658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION smells a bot < 1397698674 607292 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( 10/85 < 1397698674 832086 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-220-083.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :040.11764705882352941 : 12Float < 1397698709 680112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The channel with > 10% bots | PSA: fizzie is running the wiki now, contact him for any problems | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1397698727 537613 :nooodl!~nooodl@193.143-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1397698795 55782 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using douglass_ instead of douglass because I registered douglass and then was too lazy to use it. I do like thiotimoline a bit better but it's less recognizable to people who know me in real life. < 1397698824 997557 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha ha, i knew i recognized the name from somewhere (no i didn't) < 1397698861 202966 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have over 10% bots? wooooah... < 1397698865 674567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :douglass_: unless you have nick protection on, you don't _need_ to log in to use douglass < 1397698897 249419 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even remember what I did when I set up this screen. < 1397698907 446474 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certainly too lazy to change anything until it dies. < 1397698907 766061 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1397698909 986772 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1397698918 472548 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I inherited this dtach from my mother..." < 1397698971 575870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that also includes the logging bots. < 1397699035 950488 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one unknown member, namely myndzi. < 1397699051 177600 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should play with Snap < 1397699055 947106 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION -> mattress < 1397699058 136172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't include myndzi in the 10, but e would certainly not hurt the number < 1397699076 681357 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :go myndzi! embrace your siliconoïd side! < 1397699082 623337 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: ROBOT CHICKEN < 1397699084 789492 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1397699377 893410 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.christianet.com/creditcounseling/ < 1397699383 248875 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Christian... credit counseling < 1397699387 722800 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it < 1397699545 738572 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to install Snap, it seems to be installing lens.... < 1397699560 546781 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, Snap was the one that bothered me for having its own little weird lens library, iirc < 1397699563 294581 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has that changed? < 1397699630 625041 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you ever think about turbulence < 1397699795 885840 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1397699796 915941 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't christianity generally against credit? < 1397699832 238859 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397699846 917365 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're like, living in 1200s Europe, maybe < 1397699994 912089 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/lending_money/ex22_24.html < 1397700047 458716 :xpte!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mezbditcrtorlfiz QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397700073 29475 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes as it turns out practice does not completely correspond to any legal code for more than about two seconds < 1397700103 675829 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1397700113 632808 :ggherdov!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ngwpzrqqkkuhjnhv QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397700127 565492 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Insofar as legal codes even mean anything bla bla bla < 1397700170 619982 :xpte!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mnvkevkdchnzyslm JOIN :#esoteric < 1397700296 642865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iiuc there was a time in europe when that was interpreted by the christians such that they could not take interest from anyone, but by the jews such that they couldn't take interest from other jews, but could do it from christians. and so jews became the major bankers. < 1397700348 952396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this iiuc comes with no guarantees of actually being correct) < 1397700951 424763 :ggherdov!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rwnqwxmqhxvmuhae JOIN :#esoteric < 1397701855 934830 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I was trying to get at with the 1200s comment, yeah. it was usury. < 1397701882 492038 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Boxy14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39344&oldid=39341 5* 03Zerk 5* (+224) 10 < 1397701919 774612 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the workarounds are pretty hilarious sometimes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_banking#Bai.27_al_.27inah_.28sale_and_buy-back_agreement.29 < 1397703009 267465 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1397703310 406674 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey non-Americans, question: in your early math classes what symbols were used to describe a basic linear equation < 1397703399 123185 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how early < 1397703433 571987 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :primary school? like "here's a line" early < 1397703445 254191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i'm non-American, but i was in .il math classes until 4th grade or so < 1397703452 44888 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by symbols < 1397703604 998773 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :y = ax + b < 1397703605 664112 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1397703636 319691 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that, yes. < 1397703650 462463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea < 1397703661 426906 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did we even have those < 1397703671 186860 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't see that until secondaire 1 tho (grade 7) < 1397703673 281222 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm wondering because In American the usual is mx + b and the reason for the m is apparently mysterious < 1397703680 170281 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In America rather < 1397703682 260897 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah might have been < 1397703684 584072 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mx + b < 1397703699 972540 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quadratics are still ax² + bx + c though < 1397703703 150269 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :base and mantissa... wait no < 1397703714 290451 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiplier? < 1397703720 883833 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was at a friend's house, and some teacher(?) was quizzing me, and I knew things like derivatives but not what y=mx+b was about < 1397703723 985152 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i literally found a citation for this saying "It just happened" < 1397703728 237258 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was many, many years ago < 1397703734 7486 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiplier? i hardly know 'er! < 1397703752 698948 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and like apparently in swedeworld it's usually "kx + m", k for koefficient < 1397703768 925149 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem PRIVMSG #esoteric :m = slope; don't know why though < 1397703769 736944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a⁢x² + m⁢x + b < 1397703773 538601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just stick the m in there < 1397703777 793137 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :genius. < 1397703786 223622 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i totally used U+2062 INVISIBLE TIMES, by the way) < 1397703790 310299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just sayin') < 1397703795 908605 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1397703803 823442 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1397703804 946313 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION verifies shachaf's clam. < 1397703811 922692 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually not fully verified) < 1397703819 474713 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And not a clam, but that was deliberate) < 1397703825 342313 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, one of the citations is to an aol page < 1397703846 630190 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: but aren't they both koëfficients :'( < 1397703852 905723 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait maybe that's not valid swedish < 1397703860 184964 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is down, but thankfully i found a mirror. on tripod. < 1397703873 353282 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: «where k may derive from "koefficient" in the Swedish word for slope, "riktningskoefficient."» is what it says < 1397703876 289774 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes. < 1397703891 978951 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rïktningsköefficient < 1397703911 361614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bïke < 1397703916 391997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats Bike -----### < 1397703922 458836 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1397703930 339231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ö IS A SEPARATE LETTER < 1397703936 760953 :password2!~password@197.78.148.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397703937 224037 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1397703946 517873 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you should be swatting me, though < 1397703956 233661 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coefficient, more like scowefficient < 1397703985 587213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because it's such a scow) < 1397704068 290177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally sv:ko = cow but sv:kö = queue < 1397704082 603823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about no:kø < 1397704136 102405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's also queue < 1397704143 125000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but cow is ku < 1397704155 358579 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1397704166 36258 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Boxy14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39345&oldid=39344 5* 03Zerk 5* (+57) 10/* Toplevel */ fixed math by adding unwrapped 0/1 defs < 1397704183 775957 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397704198 406350 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t maybe < 1397704199 539598 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b -> (a -> b) -> Maybe a -> b < 1397704208 815080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ko is not a common word in norwegian. < 1397704214 304552 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe 5 (error "Must be Nothing") < 1397704215 734678 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vs < 1397704225 146442 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe 5 (const $ error "Must be nothing) < 1397704232 863138 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any significant reason to use one vs the other? < 1397704243 783264 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t maybe 5 (error "Must be nothing") < 1397704245 11547 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Num b => Maybe a -> b < 1397704246 877014 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :more dosh < 1397704250 60664 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t maybe 5 (const $ error "Must be nothing") < 1397704250 876771 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Num b => Maybe a -> b < 1397704259 110100 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the $ indicates xtreme dosh < 1397704262 879723 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src maybe < 1397704263 267883 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe n _ Nothing = n < 1397704263 454305 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe _ f (Just x) = f x < 1397704276 960566 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they will compile to the same thing < 1397704310 153968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$wag overload < 1397704367 356261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think there's any difference in semantics < 1397704387 154291 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :benchmark it with criterion < 1397704402 150839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that maybe won't be applying any seq's to it. < 1397704460 517894 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's actually what i meant < 1397704463 206824 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kö sounds like a borrowing < 1397704468 637902 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't mean that they would compile to the same thing < 1397704471 224972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: basically const $ error ... is equivalent to error ... unless you apply seq to it < 1397704479 157638 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant they have the same semantics and i was wondering whether they would also compile to the same thing < 1397704487 131364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i said the other one < 1397704487 516601 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even in terms of when the error message gets shown? < 1397704491 641124 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :only if maybe gets inlined probably? < 1397704529 640216 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm confused, this seems like the sort of thing haskell is pretty simple about < 1397704547 373427 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: undefined, and laziness in general, is a ... complication < 1397704559 748123 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :laziness: the ultimate side effect < 1397704565 291676 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not very complicated here < 1397704609 312987 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume laziness can be described as a monad < 1397704647 304436 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it kind of sucks to use lifted 'pure' functions in it, since they would be considered to be strict, I think < 1397704653 875381 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell didn't so much eliminate side effects as introduce a single pervasive side effect that doesn't play nice with others < 1397704660 255481 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks if that's less than 140 characters < 1397704681 124960 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah but it allows for fancy tricks! At the expense of safety < 1397704686 539064 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :happiness is a warm monad < 1397704707 815111 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the english word for cow is "cow" < 1397704755 637416 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the english term for "cow" is "use-mention distinction" < 1397704850 650996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :names with their own names! < 1397704871 232290 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does anyone else think once you have a "series of monographs" in over 40 volumes you should consider calling it something else < 1397704968 959199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume it's time to link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haddocks'_Eyes#Naming again < 1397704988 641479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: a polygraph hth < 1397704989 346070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: a polygraph? < 1397704992 83012 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :efb < 1397704997 111040 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow how did i not think of that < 1397705003 249764 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :, he lied < 1397705022 167519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :efb? < 1397705034 875371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah that's the only example I know, besides "tetragrammaton" < 1397705037 594685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :edit: fuck, beaten < 1397705054 594527 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :logos < 1397705057 534088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh < 1397705063 575317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1397705107 824814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"efb" tdh hth hand < 1397705114 48472 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1397705117 185968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1397705123 462737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :` < 1397705124 88567 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1397705132 624886 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ŵ < 1397705134 576224 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that did help hope that helped have a nice day < 1397705137 402487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :` < 1397705138 451881 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1397705144 492179 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1397705149 190952 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tdh < 1397705150 88436 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh is the past tense of a successful hth. hth. < 1397705159 755955 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh < 1397705168 246699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`àwesomé´ < 1397705168 770356 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: àwesomé´: not found < 1397705229 948807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tdnh < 1397705230 824946 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh does not help < 1397705289 264558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $PATH < 1397705289 998841 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin < 1397705325 446650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess there's no way to get an empty command name to work < 1397705345 766412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :inside the box < 1397705748 305840 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1397706265 756765 :password2!~password@197.78.148.51 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1397706575 329495 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Boxy14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39346&oldid=39345 5* 03Zerk 5* (-6) 10/* Toplevel */ properly* fixed math < 1397706581 165076 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1397707243 329436 :kallisti_!~adam@h243.27.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397707419 431791 :kallisti!~adam@h83.172.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1397707687 798925 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397708624 549958 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1397709001 512057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1397709134 881312 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hand < 1397709135 703538 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hand? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1397709964 919859 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1397710033 821887 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1397710054 512551 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1397710373 790308 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1397710484 311294 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(About OverlappingInstances) < 1397710485 776462 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Can sometimes be simulated with the extra-method trick used in the Show class of the Prelude for showing lists of characters differently than lists of other things. < 1397710485 962337 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1397710488 927841 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What trick is this? < 1397710547 966181 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397710549 472241 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1397710587 874662 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t showList < 1397710589 161364 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Show a => [a] -> ShowS < 1397710800 311607 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a bad idea to write code like < 1397710807 77640 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah >>= flip when $ do ... < 1397710818 170636 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1397710832 780339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "flip" `isInfixOf` "blah >>= flip when $ do ..." < 1397710832 966291 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-220-083.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When elaborating an application of constructor 04__infer: < 1397710832 966381 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-220-083.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : No such variable isInfixOf < 1397710834 54073 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1397710842 443905 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris-ircslave: go away or change your prefix < 1397710843 57238 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-220-083.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When elaborating an application of constructor 04__infer: < 1397710843 57326 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-220-083.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : No such variable go < 1397711536 638915 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand these days you just bite the bullet and use @run. < 1397711582 860774 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @run away or change your prefix < 1397711584 177410 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘away’Not in scope: ‘change’ < 1397711584 363216 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1397711584 363289 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : ‘range’ (imported from Data.Ix), < 1397711584 363327 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : ‘hang’ (imported from Text.PrettyPrint.HughesPJ)Not in scope: ‘your’Not in... < 1397711584 363364 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant ‘prefixed’ (imported from Data.List.Lens) < 1397711640 662320 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idris also had something lambdabot did not respond to. < 1397711656 157818 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I used it a few lines above. < 1397711659 245098 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Apparently.) < 1397711726 771592 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something shorter than the full name, too. < 1397711778 760407 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :( 2 + 2 < 1397711778 969778 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-220-083.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :044 : 12Integer < 1397711785 959430 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That. < 1397711828 462572 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :( 2 + 2 ) < 1397711828 648072 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-220-083.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:7: error: expected: "$", < 1397711828 648135 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-220-083.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$>", "&&", "&&&", "*", "***", < 1397711828 648172 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-220-083.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "+", "++", "-", "->", ".", "/", < 1397711828 648213 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-220-083.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/=", ":+", ":-", "::", ":::", < 1397711828 648248 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-220-083.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ":=", "<", "<$", "<$>", "<*>",14↵… < 1397711830 321240 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1397711832 760415 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like, it acquired a non-conflicting prefix, but did not get rid of >. < 1397711886 257629 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I kind of hope it would, but haven't cared about enough to say anything. < 1397711949 454766 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think about it, shachaf, this is helping to get rid of the ) backlog. < 1397711956 164222 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(() < 1397711986 566169 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(: just doing my part. < 1397712451 381899 :kallisti_!~adam@h243.27.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1397712616 98043 :kallisti!~adam@h243.27.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397712994 17310 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://freshbsd.org/search?project=openbsd&q=file.name:libssl they mad < 1397713053 749500 :asie!~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1397713054 312357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/jmhodges/libssl/commits/master < 1397713061 581950 :asie!~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi! i used to be known as asiekierka here < 1397713063 543835 :asie!~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few years back < 1397713065 844358 :asie!~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are you? < 1397713260 989141 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hmm, you've written ~20% more words in #haskell than i have < 1397713352 9879 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hm your link is better < 1397713373 117255 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am the superior being. < 1397713626 80382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hasn't jconn already ruined the paren-balance of this room? < 1397713656 396334 :conehead_!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1397713685 387799 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1397713807 333239 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :( () < 1397713807 519042 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-220-083.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04() : 12() < 1397713823 919702 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :( () -- ) < 1397713824 105002 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-220-083.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04() : 12() < 1397713829 343333 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :( -- () -- ) < 1397713829 529050 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-220-083.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :command not recognized or not supported < 1397713835 220 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a tie fighter < 1397713875 751806 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather a TIE Advanced x1 < 1397713880 562248 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :( -- ( ⋈ ) -- ) < 1397713880 748131 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-220-083.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :command not recognized or not supported < 1397713998 138827 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: bbl < 1397714146 163922 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.dropbox.com/s/skmvujsn35s6q2x/IMG_20140417_075324.jpg wat < 1397714329 792294 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that's particularly weird < 1397714344 256186 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except that i don't like any of those bands) < 1397714364 394972 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second paragraph confuses me < 1397714371 553351 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://freshbsd.org/commit/openbsd/6fec7be36425adfd2b48f3695d24a03f6287d4fe wat < 1397714394 705729 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get why he translated from german in a german university, either < 1397714400 715053 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fucking? < 1397714414 408971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are some good musicians < 1397714414 772849 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fucking is one point, yes < 1397714416 822926 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's slightly weird < 1397714420 180668 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: for the international students? < 1397714422 454128 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps i should find this person and engage in some of these activities < 1397714440 915869 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: go for it < 1397714460 791710 :asie!~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1397714572 700994 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: in return, name a cool esolang i could write a compiler for, that is not too hard to make < 1397714746 243768 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION memorizes that list of musicians for later hipster usage < 1397714768 93741 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1397714792 787901 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah radiohead is a pretty obscure hipster band < 1397714838 121025 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like they forgot to translate Strawinsky < 1397714852 905660 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :translate from what < 1397714854 42150 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tschaikowsky < 1397714928 819044 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1397714930 881482 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait are all those gerunds meant to apply to the noun "music" < 1397714946 765716 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i am not sure < 1397714956 27141 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was my interpretation < 1397714956 743862 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397714961 976234 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially how "fucking music" would look like < 1397714963 344634 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes... more and less sense simultaneously < 1397714966 194666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1397714991 865985 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought the joke was that it sounds like he is proposing sex, but then it turns out he is still talking about music < 1397714998 751940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1397715007 900138 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what the hell is fucking muic? < 1397715009 722720 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*s < 1397715048 733995 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and that maybe his original wording in german made that slightly clearer, although i guess that's a bit unlikely) < 1397715064 396479 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: that guy is, and the friends who respond? < 1397715086 788939 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :he says something like in increasing order of emotional whatever < 1397715142 183761 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps he refers to products such as http://www.ohmibod.com/ [nsfw i guess] < 1397715169 692151 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :music controlled vibrators < 1397715198 682930 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds awesome < 1397715198 903842 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps the meaning of (emotionally ordered) was clearer originally < 1397715207 497139 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah those sound awesome < 1397715247 127919 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh better to build a USB control kit for the Magic Wand, i think < 1397715253 970634 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gamegirladvance.com/2002/10/sex-in-games-rezvibrator.html < 1397715263 305684 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: go and sell the result < 1397715269 270887 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will be rich in no time < 1397715281 865686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe... < 1397715284 654425 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :selling stuff is hard < 1397715287 360696 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it has to be, like, good < 1397715293 805827 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never made a physical thing that was good < 1397715294 857262 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard < 1397715323 633126 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Hitachi Magic Wand contains a 120 V DC motor < 1397715331 178187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the two speed settings correspond to half-wave and full-wave rectifiers < 1397715353 753914 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask me how i know this < 1397715363 371480 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you know this? < 1397715368 902256 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by taking one apart < 1397715377 648989 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that poor thing < 1397715381 537215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't mine < 1397715387 575834 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we put it back together < 1397715389 765857 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could think of better use cases < 1397715393 67179 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, okay < 1397715454 455783 :conehead_!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1397715759 226196 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/DrFFzea.png < 1397715835 715280 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at one of the sex toy shops in SF they have a museum with a bunch of old vibrators < 1397715940 728515 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the vibrator was the fifth ever electric domestic appliance < 1397715945 335493 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Rouringu de hajikunda! < 1397715960 568850 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at which point is the washing mashine? < 1397716095 983088 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :much later I think < 1397716126 113013 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :complicated and needs lots of power < 1397716140 56988 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :early appliances just connected in place of a light bulb < 1397716167 198051 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :at what point was mr burbujas < 1397716177 45509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mr burbujas exists outside of time and space < 1397716188 952437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :our entire universe is but one bubble in his frothy beard < 1397716213 895478 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the un-enlightened: http://www.sanfranciscodays.com/photos/large/mr-burbujas.jpg < 1397716223 948778 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the resistance? < 1397716433 658645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION -> bed (?) < 1397716490 275552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bͭ̒̎ȅ̛̽d̯̤̈́? < 1397719964 7646 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397720952 469136 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397722244 196029 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1397722255 106567 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1397722445 436720 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1397722490 654389 :Patashu[Zzz]!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1397722490 875884 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1397723958 631774 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1397724024 292746 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@199.127.227.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397724082 359785 :xpte!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mnvkevkdchnzyslm QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1397724628 283123 :asie!~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397724737 419684 :asie!~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1397725373 734633 :impomatic!~digital_w@39.123.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, oerjan: anything in the name of science... < 1397725525 377933 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It's quite commonly "kx + ???" in Finland, and the "k" can be argued to stand for "kulmakerroin". I don't remember what the ??? usually is. < 1397725558 470865 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmhm mmhm < 1397725580 793264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think maybe "kx + b", though there is no Finnish explanation for b. < 1397725622 799646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://opinnot.net/kokonaisuudet/index.php?id_kokon=164&kieli_id=1&taso_kokon=0&oppiaine_kokon=2 and so on. < 1397725747 492309 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Searching for "y=kx" in Finnish has "b" for 9 out of 10 hits on the first page. (Last one just has "y = kx".) < 1397725811 362046 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("kerroin" = coefficient, "kulma" = angle.) < 1397725830 609158 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("kerroin" = "I told".) < 1397726019 877066 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the noun for coefficient, the first-person singular indicative past form of the verb "kertoa" 'to tell, to multiply (transitive)', and (which I didn't even think about at all before looking at Wiktionary) the instructive case plural form of the noun "kerta" (approx. 'occasion'). Possibly because the instructive case is such nonsense. < 1397726028 587450 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructive_case < 1397726034 683782 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that good for, anyway? < 1397726141 545631 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's used in something like "kaksin kerroin". < 1397726437 863448 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1397726546 675628 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-210.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1397727849 272317 :Tritonio1!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397727922 281774 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: a = 0; printf("%d %d %d %d", a, a++, a, a++); produces "2 1 2 0" on many GCC versions on x86 and x86-64, "2 0 2 1" on GCC 4.7 on ARM and ICC 12.1.0 on x86-64, "0 0 1 1" on some versions of clang on x86-64, and "2 1 2 1" on the PGI C compiler on x86-64. < 1397727944 951745 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's probably not an exhaustive list. < 1397727959 391262 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1397728046 189332 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one with no zeroes in it is quite nice. < 1397728656 16443 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: on x86, doesn't it also depend on -mcpu/-mtune? < 1397728674 565993 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe on other optimization switches < 1397728681 444244 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't coax other outputs with flags, but I'm sure it could be possible. < 1397728749 958944 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should make a C compiler that launches /usr/games/hack on compiling such program < 1397729791 472359 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397730562 667835 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1397730596 908733 :asie!~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours. < 1397730767 230308 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You hacker < 1397732463 394009 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1397732706 899124 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: Ping: Read: Error: Timeout: Remote: Chicken < 1397732857 426571 :nucular!~MOO@p4FF91CC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1397732857 685515 :nucular!~MOO@p4FF91CC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Changing host < 1397732857 685577 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1397733474 253927 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1397733548 661524 :atslash!~atslash@playisland.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1397733949 980875 :atslash!~atslash@playisland.ru QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1397733979 366512 :atslash!~atslash@playisland.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1397734067 862545 :password2!~password@197.78.139.0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397734669 262974 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1397734697 186100 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397734817 552262 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1397736643 483833 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1397736691 554424 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1397737080 106631 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1397738645 972581 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1397738663 87496 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What activation function would be faster for a backpropagation algorithm < 1397738686 902613 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The basic sigmoid has an exponential in it, but on the other hand the derivative can be expressed simply by the function < 1397738706 890940 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :atan has 1/(1+x^2) as its derivative < 1397738723 730484 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the one that is 1/(1 + |x|) is simple to calculate but the derivative has to be calculated independantly < 1397738729 80479 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well probably anywa < 1397738797 993346 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Changing the activation also changes the learning rate, doesn't it < 1397738802 855046 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@199.127.227.147 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1397738815 903121 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably < 1397738821 921489 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dont know which one is better for it < 1397738873 523938 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1397739159 309714 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Elliott activation function has the best name, obviously. < 1397739200 605855 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.dontveter.com/bpr/activate.html < 1397739205 363099 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BACKPROAGATOR REVIEW < 1397739206 946983 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahah < 1397739243 445308 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1397739346 927264 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanh is a sigmoid too < 1397739377 476735 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure if it would be suitable though < 1397739389 690102 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Both these sigmoid approach their extremes more slowly. This means that if you are trying to output numerical values it will take more iterations to reach your target value. But if you're doing a classification problem you really only care to get the correct output value greater than the other outputs and here these functions will save on CPU time without influencing the number of iterations required by very much. " < 1397739390 590683 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1397739446 139075 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll worry about that later and try several activation functions < 1397739457 70210 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"However, while simulation is faster with elliotsig, training is not guaranteed to be faster, due to the different shapes of the two transfer functions. Here, 10 networks are each trained for tansig and elliotsig, but training times vary significantly even on the same problem with the same network." (MATLAB Neural Networking toolbox, "Optimize Neural Network Training Speed and Memory" article.) < 1397739697 364069 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1397740400 822866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it really misspell his name? < 1397740470 935325 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, tell us about your activation function < 1397740485 402318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might be hard < 1397740489 241603 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It does; it also does not credit him in any way. < 1397740553 664132 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that I think MATLAB documentation usually does, but still. < 1397740653 509435 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It also doesn't mention what the actual function is, anywhere; I had to use "type" to check that it actually is the same as that David Elliott one.) < 1397740670 849128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a lot more common as a surname than a first name, it seems < 1397740850 729156 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1397740943 295002 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1397742106 611428 :Patashu[Zzz]!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1397743600 730111 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1397745062 897423 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man my perceptron converges values all to 0.5 :( < 1397745070 763945 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What went wrooong < 1397745240 292290 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't care < 1397745354 509686 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It learned the truth < 1397745464 90142 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem isn't from the learning rate and inertia apparently < 1397745498 434952 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason all my weights converge to 0 < 1397745558 885252 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's that Stephen King book all over again < 1397746111 609751 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah, i thought you were shachaf for quite a long time < 1397746118 146169 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :plz. recapitalise your nick < 1397746142 783176 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is. < 1397746608 600181 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom's right < 1397746676 56012 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah may not be upper cased < 1397746678 183004 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Slereah_ is < 1397746681 262869 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1397746685 743545 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1397746924 264162 :Tritonio1!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397746982 576142 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@93.190.140.195 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397747066 374375 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if all weights are converging to zero does that just mean it's learning a constant function < 1397747081 724358 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to make an autoencoder < 1397747092 773029 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the training set is just the identity function < 1397747103 338403 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently the input is just (1 2 3 4 5) < 1397747127 506855 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm trying to get the same as output < 1397747150 780530 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But for some reason weights all decrease with each update until they're all 0 < 1397747168 119121 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Reading an embargoed paper that cites 71 papers in the first two sentences." < 1397747177 868049 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that sounds like a bug probably /helpful < 1397747226 315956 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't sa < 1397747226 933258 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :y < 1397747431 623016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you doing it all DIY, or with some sort of a thing? < 1397747548 519316 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Thing indeed < 1397747552 830197 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :internship thing < 1397747559 704511 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait < 1397747565 586807 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean coded from scratch < 1397747568 364816 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then yes < 1397747582 724012 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I did look at a few libraries of it before < 1397747873 249211 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, right, that just makes bug-in-the-implementation the likelier reason than doing-it-wrong. < 1397747891 815667 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well doing it wrong is still on the table < 1397747914 504228 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess maybe I should do a very simple one < 1397747924 556841 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 in, 2 out, 1 hidden neurone < 1397748138 715341 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you do an identity map if everything has to go through one neuron...? < 1397748175 785094 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno < 1397748189 704542 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1397748209 221389 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's unfortunate that there are no step by step examples of the backpropagation algorithm < 1397748214 845484 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could check where it went wrong < 1397748346 599715 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@93.190.140.195 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1397748707 453179 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It should at least do a credible approximation, anyway, as long as things work out. < 1397748795 573760 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Autoencoder features are quite "hip" at the moment in the speech recognition field. < 1397748805 861216 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would it distinguish, like, 01 from 10 < 1397748818 549801 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike : different weights? < 1397748857 587759 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hidden neuron outputs one bit, doesn't it? How do you encode two bits into one bit < 1397748900 519333 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It's not usually binary; but in any case, by having first output equal to the hidden bit, and the second its complement. < 1397748907 693474 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: That way 0 -> 01 and 1 -> 10. < 1397748921 627897 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then you couldn't also do 00 and 11. < 1397748928 762165 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The network has real values and real weights < 1397748931 998595 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neural networks can output any real number < 1397748952 286651 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Sure, sure; but it's supposed to learn the "best" low-dimensional representation it can. < 1397748974 176013 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You interpret the number if you want a classifier < 1397749010 174766 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay i guess i thought after the sigmoid you had a binary threshhold. oopsie. < 1397749046 41152 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sigmoid is used to introduce nonlinearity (and to compress outputs between layers) < 1397749132 929610 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://jmlr.org/papers/volume11/vincent10a/vincent10a.pdf is the kind of thing people do on speech too. < 1397749177 136400 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Have to go do some things.) < 1397749200 601248 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :l8er < 1397749477 516177 :password2!~password@197.78.139.0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1397749925 889808 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397750100 853471 :mekeor!~user@2001:4ca0:2fff:4::3a JOIN :#esoteric < 1397750154 438210 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397750361 493590 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397750413 269365 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1397750509 689985 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today I got a free hat < 1397750914 929557 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1397750948 357936 :doesthiswork!80df9227@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.223.146.39 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397752046 639892 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1397752074 752647 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397752121 420953 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1397752594 101699 :doesthiswork!80df9227@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.223.146.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric : so I've got a fun little thing. variables can only hold random bits. You can set a variable to the result of xoring or averageing other variables together. Print prints out the name of the variable that most closely matches the chunk of bits coming after it. < 1397752623 29873 :doesthiswork!80df9227@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.223.146.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the control structures are "label" and "call" but procedures do not accept arguments < 1397752686 341699 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, just xor all variables with themselves < 1397752694 657888 :doesthiswork!80df9227@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.223.146.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :call calls the chunk of code labeled with the most similar chunk of bits to the one its called with < 1397752704 908644 :doesthiswork!80df9227@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.223.146.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes 0 is easy to get < 1397752729 628618 :doesthiswork!80df9227@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.223.146.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 0 doesn't do anything special < 1397752771 55485 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, so what is special < 1397752815 270987 :doesthiswork!80df9227@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.223.146.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can holographically store values in other values < 1397752836 198309 :doesthiswork!80df9227@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.223.146.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :using xor to make a pair and averaging to combine several pairs < 1397753045 513758 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397753133 333940 :doesthiswork!80df9227@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.223.146.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure it isn't turing complete because you can only store a finite amount of information in an anonymous value < 1397753147 405925 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397754777 666525 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sort of ternary operations would be useful for a ternary computer? < 1397754798 776085 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking tritwise max would be a rough equivalent of OR < 1397754799 360180 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: all the trintercal ones? < 1397754811 128168 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait... useful? < 1397754818 543956 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1397754880 688766 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, I'd rather stick to binary (with two's complement or one's complement, and fibonacci and negafibonacci) < 1397754967 110049 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But ternary is the easiest way to render a sierpinski carpet to the screen < 1397755066 380212 :doesthiswork!80df9227@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.223.146.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are 3^9 different two argument ternary operators < 1397755093 846280 :doesthiswork!80df9227@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.223.146.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, max and min seem useful < 1397755110 637184 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's one operation then, the sierpinsky operation: 222;202;222. For the other, addition, perhaps? < 1397755169 974988 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not going the balanced ternary route? (In which case multiplication is I guess quite a natural one.) < 1397755193 698060 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1397755220 989536 :doesthiswork!80df9227@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.223.146.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could try creating random ternary circuts out of a selection of ternary gates and see which set seems to produce the remainder of the gates most fairly < 1397755554 569903 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397756039 786486 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :A single binary operation has many ternary equivalents < 1397756058 890950 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tritwise multiplication and tritwise min are both equivalents of AND < 1397756535 849763 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a minimal basis for all ternary operations? < 1397756712 616063 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A single two-input ternary operator and a single one-input ternary operator are proposed, which together with the logic values 1 and 2 form a functionally-complete set of ternary operators." < 1397756768 984296 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tokmen, V. H. "A functionally-complete ternary system", Electronic Letters, Feb 1978, 14(3), pp. 69-71, http://dx.doi.org/10.1049/el:19780048 < 1397756799 48410 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1397756868 888447 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The two-input operator it mentions is the {max(a, b) if a != b; 0 if a = b} one, and the unary operator is the {2 if a = 0; 0 if a != 0} one. < 1397756893 296663 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no zero? nice < 1397756914 73223 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just the unary operator applied to 1 or 2, after all. < 1397756930 660358 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't need 0 for binary logic, either < 1397756957 523898 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i still like it < 1397756981 14937 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 is nothing compared to 1 < 1397756981 936829 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The particular merit of the above operators is their ease of realisation in bipolar or m.o.s., technology." < 1397756999 33356 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :draumr < 1397757004 122712 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The two-input operator is called the TOR, short for "Ternary exclusive-OR". < 1397757068 778594 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the notation is quite funky. TOR is denoted by a τ b, and the unary one by ⁰a⁰ of all things. < 1397757078 472942 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, that's ⁰(a)⁰. < 1397757091 970049 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The teddy ears operator < 1397757104 296379 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure it'll catch on < 1397757189 550495 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :too cute not to < 1397757227 142769 :draumr!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1397757260 950106 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if they ever realised it in bipolar or m.o.s. technology. < 1397757278 298453 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it's a friend of ¹(a)¹ and ²(a)² -- the number denotes what a must be to get the value 2. < 1397757292 740188 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :hvidie < 1397757360 447038 :hvidie!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1397757573 428822 :atslash!~atslash@playisland.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1397757737 100894 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whose idea it was anyway to make it unclear whether calling something a "binary operator" (resp. a ternary operator) means that it takes two (resp. three) inputs or that it has two (resp. three) states for those inputs? < 1397757924 547532 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. i don't think i've heard the latter. until um, just now. < 1397757945 956481 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whose idea was it that the term "special case" should have two opposite meanings < 1397758026 767383 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://nlab.mathforge.org/nlab/show/red%20herring%20principle < 1397758037 3988 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The mathematical red herring principle is the principle that in mathematics, a “red herring” need not, in general, be either red or a herring." < 1397758082 838253 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "two-input ternary operator" was an instance of the latter use. < 1397758100 222778 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this other "Ternary Exclusive Or" is an instance of the former. < 1397758139 796368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what kind of hat did you get for free; also how? < 1397758143 404449 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's just a boolean logic connective that's true iff exactly one of its three inputs is true.) < 1397758145 338062 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1397758147 102620 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mopocoin relyknitiationcoin hairequitcoin pingbraicoin liheidifycoin rpecoin bdallcoin duplycoin rubeofthecoin pcoin buggonaltcoin peracoin claimcoin aftgreurochesecoin festcoin selectpcoin hercoin wildcoin obfurlocoin mckecoin < 1397758159 186424 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fi:mopo == en:moped. < 1397758171 869826 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rubeofthecoin < 1397758193 312981 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :duplycoin doesn't even try to prevent double-spending. < 1397758249 770631 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, some form of knit cap < 1397758324 218332 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, I didn't even know the next Ubuntu was going to be the "Trusty Tahr" and now it's released. < 1397758370 766285 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope ubuntu dies after Zebra < 1397758378 192557 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If for no other reason < 1397758410 400284 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The development code name page already goes up to 20.04 that will start with F; they just loop around. < 1397758422 760762 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one where they list suggestions, that is. < 1397758479 24581 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The U names sound p. stupid. < 1397760764 522791 :mekeor!~user@2001:4ca0:2fff:4::3a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1397760856 961439 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1397760937 161602 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: no, duplycoin is like the treasure in Bellatrix Lestrange's vault in Gringotts: it's enchanted so that when you touch it it produces duplicates that look similar but are worthless, and also glow hot < 1397761008 973975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've said it before but they should loop around with fungi next < 1397761041 575236 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ascendent Amanita, Beautiful Bolete, Charming Chanterelle < 1397761114 829558 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397761203 341278 :xpte!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pwxnxgfnzizedxyp JOIN :#esoteric < 1397761326 225502 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: good idea. then bacteria, then plants after that. < 1397761460 326125 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1397761675 760554 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1397762110 967089 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :delicious dekkera, esoteric ergot, faithful flammulina, glistening ganoderma, happy hypholoma, intriguing inocybe, jovial jelly, keen kuehneromyces < 1397762553 861626 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :leafy laetiporus, magnificent morel, noble neolentinus, omniscient omphalotus, pleasing pleurotus, quixotic queletia, rustic russula < 1397762571 475751 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-210.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397762593 458616 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397762898 67315 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist (949) < 1397762898 765394 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist (949): shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti < 1397763022 460991 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :superb saccharomyces, tasty truffle, unctuous urnula, vernal velvet-foot, wonderful wine-cap, xenodochial xylaria < 1397763030 435518 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll get back to you on y and z < 1397763046 115857 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1397763086 652653 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea if velvet foot mushrooms actually grow in the spring; also it's the same critter as flammulina < 1397763208 560684 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1397763266 559358 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1397763687 569329 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1397763901 96791 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@199.167.25.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397763901 542622 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@199.167.25.114 QUIT :Changing host < 1397763901 728197 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1397763963 642321 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1397764302 428188 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :loveable lactobacillus < 1397764585 662406 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1397764701 656454 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1397764705 363962 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1397765851 13001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://livegrep.com/search/linux?q=CHICKEN < 1397766336 799579 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hollang14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=39347 5* 03Doesthiswork 5* (+2349) 10new holographic language < 1397766382 982113 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hollang14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39348&oldid=39347 5* 03Doesthiswork 5* (+2) 10 < 1397766669 844355 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/DrFFzea.png < 1397766859 783869 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1397767163 93333 :doesthiswork!80df9227@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.223.146.39 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1397767179 453350 :nooodl!~nooodl@193.143-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1397767274 651040 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball < 1397767275 320419 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Concentrate and ask again. < 1397767279 611916 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :'k < 1397767406 349965 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://opensslrampage.org/post/83019384273/ok-there-was-a-need-for-openssl-cleanse-instead all your favorite drama, now in tumblr form < 1397767420 143033 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell @ hollang < 1397768378 519652 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397768973 994688 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'm loving this, i looked up what OPENSSL_malloc is < 1397768977 548613 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :OPENSSL_malloc is a macro that expands to a call to CRYPTO_malloc, which calls a function pointer. the default value of that function pointer is a function that calls another function pointer. the default value of /that/ function pointer is, finally, malloc. < 1397769034 695520 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Quit: Excess Food < 1397769079 127910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: are you sure there's not one too many levels of funptr indirection there...? < 1397769085 507709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd... be surprised but not surprised enough < 1397769108 378201 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. the outer function pointer is "malloc_ex_func" which is like malloc but takes __LINE__ and __FILE__ < 1397769123 342339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice. < 1397769160 988245 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, the whole purpose for this is that if nothing's been allocated yet, you (as in you, outside the library) can call a function to switch all these pointers to something else < 1397769181 475552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's actually useful sometimes, for what it's worth < 1397769183 2661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gmp offers it too < 1397769200 535216 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :BECAUSE LIBC MALLOC IS TOO SLOW < 1397769287 348139 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm does mercurial's web interface let you grep code or no < 1397769442 971020 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :p[-1] = (0xdeadbeef << 31) + 0xdeafdeed; <-- nifty (in gmp) < 1397769473 964705 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1397769576 605637 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would they shift a 32-bit number by 31 bites < 1397769587 371214 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must be hungry < 1397769594 803515 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/es/s < 1397769687 728099 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be 64 bits < 1397769695 597807 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's aprt of a debug section < 1397769718 808019 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 36 < 1397769730 516575 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to quote another popular value ;-) ) < 1397769737 418867 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :0xdeadbeef is a 32-bit constant < 1397769757 522916 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1397769813 489799 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an int < 1397769837 831180 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you don't know how many bits it has from the compiler's perspective < 1397769892 420476 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :libpng has a compile-time option (PNG_USER_MEM_SUPPORTED) that lets you switch around the memory allocation functions. < 1397769903 477681 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless that's in the cray mpn code or something, it's going to be a 32-bit unsigned int < 1397770028 22136 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And GMP has at least reasonable chances of running on such a thing, compared to many other pieces of code. < 1397770064 928381 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know there is cray mpn code (and probably people still using it) < 1397770313 911894 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gmplib.org/repo/gmp/file/55ff6b8d9a92/memory.c#l130 i come bearing context < 1397770356 590941 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's curious. < 1397770359 521891 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's probably what it is for no particular reason < 1397770384 831016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since mp_ptr is an mp_limb_t *, and quite often mp_limb_t is unsigned long instead. < 1397770396 961281 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's repeated a dozen times, though, and you'd think it'd be a macro at that point < 1397770448 967278 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would presumably make sense to convert the constants to mp_limb_t. < 1397770545 266078 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it looks like a "bug" < 1397770698 432451 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1397770784 129393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I believe it's possibly undefined behaviour on a system where int is larger than 32 bits but smaller than 64. < 1397770844 424212 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it? The shift is valid as long as unsigned int is 32-bit or larger. < 1397770859 26500 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the type of an unsuffixed hex constant 0xdeadbeef is signed int if it can represent the value. < 1397770879 118102 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, evil. < 1397770882 162271 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And E1 << E2, when E1 has a signed type, is undefined if E1 * 2^E2 is not representable in the result type. < 1397771130 299544 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also kind of nasty, the way the types of integer literals changed from C89 to C99. < 1397771179 995985 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I'm sure they had to, thanks to the introduction of long long. But there used to be a "fallback" option for also unsuffixed decimal constants to end up as "unsigned long" if they were too long for a long. < 1397771282 524034 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/SCIF and so on. < 1397771308 460439 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is why I always cast numeric values before doing anything weird with them < 1397771309 236723 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the silliest messages, __int128 is not unsigned. < 1397771635 463612 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: C89 (or at least the "ansi.c.txt" draft that keeps circulating around) does not seem to really define E1 << E2 at all if E1 is signed. < 1397771665 742807 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The result of E1 << E2 is E1 left-shifted E2 bit positions; vacated bits are filled with zeros. If E1 has an unsigned type, the value of the result is E1 multiplied by the quantity, 2 raised to the power E2, reduced modulo ULONG_MAX+1 if E1 has type unsigned long, UINT_MAX+1 otherwise. (The constants ULONG_MAX and UINT_MAX are defined in the header .)" < 1397771674 742709 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's all it says on the topic of left shifts. < 1397771752 559065 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(C99 adds the "if signed type and nonnegative value and E1*2^E2 is representable" sentence.) < 1397771803 543523 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/dr_081.html apparently it was entirely implementation-defined for C89. < 1397771804 96123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1397772150 633664 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There is an ongoing discussion about what privacy means and if it is still needed. Some tracks differ from the versions on the albums listed. It was a tremendous success and marked the beginning of Italian operatic dominance north of the Alps." < 1397772169 824599 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice spam-filter avoidance header, I even thought it was something sane at first. < 1397772251 518768 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-094-221-220-083.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397772331 893742 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-220-083.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1397772382 463962 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do you write spam subject lines < 1397772383 99861 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: the honourable member will be aware that all eurocontrol does is coordinate flights a priori. we are also acknowledging that this parliament sends the message that i would not be accepted by the council last week, when we discuss matters such as pay and conditions in a coastal area into account when drawing up the olive sector, the communal services, the commission generally agrees with. < 1397772457 781103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can believe that would avoid some filters. < 1397772469 24140 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The concerning thing, mr president, is that we are at more-or-less the point where fungot can speak more coherently than some healthy adults < 1397772469 682726 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: mr president, i agree with you in mind. amendments nos 84 and 85 on reviewing the priority list do not allow the commission to take due account of the particular problem arising from the strategies will be adopted today in the role of the court of justice in the fnord session of the parliament, to support the airlines in their country. < 1397772508 931856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: this can be fixed by redefining healthy again hth < 1397772515 390725 :Bicyclidine!8679f67d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.121.246.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397772528 824389 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you hit them in the head, they are no longer healthy < 1397772578 484914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine the fnord session of the parliament is where they discuss the secret illuminati stuff. < 1397772639 391336 :Bicyclidine!8679f67d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.121.246.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ActiveX components enable you to display ActiveX controls in your GUI. They are available only on the Microsoft® Windows® platform. < 1397772689 772362 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you doing MATLAB®™ there? < 1397772713 805128 :Bicyclidine!8679f67d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.121.246.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1397772722 278487 :Bicyclidine!8679f67d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.121.246.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wondering if i should bother figuring out how to grey out a textbox < 1397772733 509299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm there are symbols for trademarks and copyrights, is there one for patents < 1397772758 124224 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: U+1F4A9 hth < 1397772775 438420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+1F4A9 < 1397772776 311183 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown character. < 1397772788 817439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOPE < 1397772803 716117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/unicode < 1397772804 369502 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ # -*- encoding: utf-8 -*- \ import re \ import sys \ import unicodedata \ def l(c): m = re.match('(?:U+)?([0-9a-f]{1,5})$', c, re.I); return unicodedata.lookup(c) if m is None else unichr(int(m.group(1),16)) \ try: \ print u''.join(map(l, sys.argv[1:])).encode('utf-8') \ except KeyError: \ print u'Unknown characte < 1397772825 292023 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1397772828 983762 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unescaped + < 1397772834 476502 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shows how well I test these things. < 1397772850 20114 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not just the standard unicode executable? < 1397772864 589508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/U[+]/U[+]/' bin/unicode < 1397772866 324144 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1397772871 295803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+1F4A9 < 1397772872 23595 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​💩 < 1397772873 922892 :Bicyclidine!8679f67d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.121.246.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh this is #esoteric, _sir_ < 1397772882 64251 :Bicyclidine!8679f67d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.121.246.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow owned. good one < 1397772907 519809 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 💩 < 1397772908 470835 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+1F4A9 DUNNO] < 1397772908 938247 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :python isn't very esoteric (below 100 lines, at least) < 1397772929 182965 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, that character describes these programs also < 1397772940 463726 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/unidecode < 1397772941 91056 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ import sys \ import unicodedata \ print u" ".join("[U+{0:04X} {1}]".format(ord(c), unicodedata.name(c, "DUNNO")) for c in " ".join(sys.argv[1:]).decode("utf-8")).encode("utf-8") < 1397772958 789643 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all up to the version of Python unicodedata that's installed there. < 1397772970 317620 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python --version < 1397772970 971671 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python 2.7.3 < 1397772989 373278 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least we've got it out of UCS-2 nowadays; it was stuck in that for ages. < 1397773018 939693 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c $'import unicodedata\nprint unicodedata.unidata_version' < 1397773019 824665 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5.2.0 < 1397773067 61191 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So close. < 1397773087 291766 :Melvar!~melvar@88.78.249.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397773090 740668 :Bicyclidine!8679f67d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.121.246.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To add an image to a push button or toggle button, assign the button's CData property an m-by-n-by-3 array of RGB values that defines RGB (Truecolor) Images." < 1397773102 725941 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: In case you don't feel like looking it up, it was just PILE OF POO. < 1397773156 433435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that was obvious once i could see it properly; putty only displayed the left part < 1397773220 154482 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, stalker mode has stopped eworking for me. < 1397773247 280127 :Bicyclidine!8679f67d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.121.246.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can extend the file types that the open command recognizes to include any file having a three-character extension. Do this by creating a MATLAB code file with the name openxyz.m. xyz is the file extension for the type of files to be handled. Do not, however, take this approach for opening FIG-files, because openfig.m is a MATLAB function which is needed to open GUIs." < 1397773251 994587 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was just something with the Android tablet's browser, but it doesn't seem better on this desktop either. < 1397773252 537013 :Bicyclidine!8679f67d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.121.246.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good system. < 1397773270 282948 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It keeps on scrolling and blinking. < 1397773497 512594 :adu!~ajr@pool-108-28-107-114.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397773641 658591 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't use stalker mode anyway. < 1397773723 431286 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397773810 570242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : blah >>= flip when $ do ... <-- the precedences are wrong for that to work. < 1397773831 140528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Sgeo blah >>= flip when $ do ... <-- the precedences are wrong for that to work. < 1397773831 568750 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1397773846 877037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is Sgeo not here < 1397773877 777315 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t return True >>= do flip when $ Just () < 1397773878 870752 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe () < 1397773881 104944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1397773903 59519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1397773925 948441 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1397773963 918233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy use of do < 1397773974 783103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t do flip when $ Just () < 1397773975 953026 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bool -> Maybe () < 1397773982 819232 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Just $ 5 :: Int < 1397773984 474325 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type ‘GHC.Types.Int’ < 1397773984 655958 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type ‘Data.Maybe.Maybe s0’ < 1397773985 568590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Just $ do 5 :: Int < 1397773987 300282 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just 5 < 1397773997 387358 :Bicyclidine!8679f67d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.121.246.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just do int < 1397774012 243697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i'm not sure if the last one is portable < 1397774035 468582 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Portable to what < 1397774040 877499 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is do with just one expression guaranteed to work if the expression doesn't have monadic type < 1397774041 877135 :Bicyclidine!8679f67d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.121.246.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hugs obviously < 1397774048 448184 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also uhc < 1397774048 977397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes IIRC < 1397774062 736362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: in the report? < 1397774082 747093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes IIRC < 1397774088 243841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the desugaring doesn't talk about types I think < 1397774093 747633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :only that it uses Prelude return/(>>=) < 1397774098 868118 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess if so then you actually _can_ use do as a general-purpose precedence fixer, huh < 1397774195 34304 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file /usr/share/unicode/unicodeData.txt < 1397774195 688421 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/share/unicode/unicodeData.txt: ERROR: cannot open `/usr/share/unicode/unicodeData.txt' (No such file or directory) < 1397774198 794589 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file /usr/share/unicode/UnicodeData.txt < 1397774199 584441 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/share/unicode/UnicodeData.txt: ERROR: cannot open `/usr/share/unicode/UnicodeData.txt' (No such file or directory) < 1397774206 352866 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lsb_release -a < 1397774207 449816 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No LSB modules are available. \ Distributor ID: Debian \ Description: Debian GNU/Linux \ Release: n/a \ Codename: n/a < 1397774287 247826 :Bicyclidine!8679f67d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.121.246.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of a boring codename < 1397774291 600012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run do let x = 5; x+2 < 1397774293 245593 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:18: < 1397774293 427064 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched brackets) < 1397774303 960332 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run do let {x = 5}; x+2 < 1397774305 540073 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 7 < 1397774365 448698 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1397774379 13715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly the brackets are needed there < 1397774396 994564 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :n/a is a rock that andy picked up on the way home. He hasn't named it yet. < 1397774417 727384 :Bicyclidine!8679f67d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.121.246.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell needs more guillemets < 1397774969 138355 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1397775049 49414 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://packages.debian.org/sid/unicode-screensaver < 1397775063 40816 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it does the emoji block < 1397775239 381380 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://sources.debian.net/data/main/u/unicode/0.9.7/unicode < 1397775243 73595 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2014-04-17 22:53:59 URL:http://sources.debian.net/data/main/u/unicode/0.9.7/unicode [26623/26623] -> "unicode" [1] < 1397775399 190887 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://ftp.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt < 1397775401 688175 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2014-04-17 22:56:37 URL:http://ftp.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt [1367023/1367023] -> "UnicodeData.txt" [1] < 1397775409 886678 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder how long this will ta.. nevermind. < 1397775452 19185 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv bin/unicode{,.old} && mv unicode UnicodeData.txt bin && chmod +x bin/unicode < 1397775454 111279 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1397775467 51174 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+1F4A9 < 1397775467 537907 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F4A9 - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: f0 9f 92 a9 UTF-16BE: d83ddca9 Decimal: 💩 \ 💩 (💩) \ Uppercase: U+1F4A9 \ Category: Cn (Other, Not Assigned) < 1397775476 170166 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :o kay < 1397775629 484833 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's,\./UnicodeData\.txt,/hackenv/UnicodeData.txt,' && unicode U+1F4A9 < 1397775630 104856 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: no input files < 1397775638 311155 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's,\./UnicodeData\.txt,/hackenv/UnicodeData.txt,' bin/unicode && unicode U+1F4A9 < 1397775640 178303 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F4A9 - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: f0 9f 92 a9 UTF-16BE: d83ddca9 Decimal: 💩 \ 💩 (💩) \ Uppercase: U+1F4A9 \ Category: Cn (Other, Not Assigned) < 1397775682 97061 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+1F4A9 < 1397775683 240005 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F4A9 PILE OF POO \ UTF-8: f0 9f 92 a9 UTF-16BE: d83ddca9 Decimal: 💩 \ 💩 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1397775691 13968 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe that needs to be trimmed. < 1397775749 143618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode PILE OF POO < 1397775750 147653 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F4A9 PILE OF POO \ UTF-8: f0 9f 92 a9 UTF-16BE: d83ddca9 Decimal: 💩 \ 💩 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1397775784 659756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well i guess it contains all the information needed < 1397775833 403018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file bin/unicode < 1397775834 87948 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/unicode: Python script, ASCII text executable < 1397776584 346217 :Patashu[Zzz]!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1397776584 528236 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1397776593 811648 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397776723 402494 :adu!~ajr@pool-108-28-107-114.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1397776907 531485 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Hollang14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=39349 5* 03Zerk 5* (+225) 10Created page with "Could you clarify "holographically embed them into variables"? How does averaging two bitstrings work, some operation between an ''and'' and an ''or''?--~~~~" < 1397776959 116508 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1397777731 830382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"EXIT() is really exit(), a gentle surprise but… OPENSSL_EXIT() is really just return()" < 1397777977 761283 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397778008 471260 :adu!~ajr@pool-108-28-107-114.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397778592 969196 :adu!~ajr@pool-108-28-107-114.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1397778775 452115 :adu!~ajr@pool-108-28-107-114.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric