< 1397779202 492142 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1397779247 477926 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1397779398 421303 :MoALTz_!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1397779542 83270 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it exits openssl for libc < 1397779551 718393 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1397779557 538812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :exit through the gift shop < 1397779593 124753 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1397779663 529252 :MoALTz_!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1397779777 467391 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1397779904 137818 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1397780089 64614 :MoALTz_!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1397780136 216214 :Bicyclidine!8679f67d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.121.246.125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someday I will understand why every C library abstracts standard everything through four layers of macrology, or rather I won't, because I ain't trying < 1397780164 77730 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397780517 579039 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it in the name of portability to systems nobody has used since before most members of this channel were born? < 1397780572 991199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair, many members in this channel have probably used obscure systems older than them. < 1397780767 737701 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obscure systems, like autoconf < 1397780894 217711 :MoALTz__!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1397780916 329361 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :obscure systems, like IRC < 1397780931 644176 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, i'm older than IRC but presumably many here aren't) < 1397781052 78305 :MoALTz_!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397781062 158153 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not even 26 years old. < 1397781099 286745 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397781234 426294 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1397781316 90257 :MoALTz__!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397781329 601057 :MoALTz__!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1397781347 543550 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byp_x2be8C8 < 1397781385 502795 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1397781452 903393 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder who the target demographic of that ad is :P < 1397781463 71643 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :"meet me at the giant mushroom" < 1397781492 969219 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, obviously < 1397781493 439559 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1397781562 85661 :MoALTz_!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1397781608 710519 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397781690 602223 :MoALTz__!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397781759 141008 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would OverlappingInstances be ok if we had typeclasses that were closed? < 1397781818 522704 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1397781825 798631 :Bicyclidine!8679f67d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.121.246.125 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1397781834 523471 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397781924 846504 :MoALTz__!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1397781978 499483 :MoALTz_!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397782023 547428 :MoALTz_!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1397782131 517244 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1397782195 414731 :MoALTz__!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1397782608 71850 :adu!~ajr@pool-108-28-107-114.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1397782635 474087 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397783664 786539 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1397783740 32907 :MoALTz_!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397784655 854335 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1397784731 30591 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397786192 368292 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1397786360 4418 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397786360 595071 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1397787077 717446 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Hollang14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39350&oldid=39349 5* 03Doesthiswork 5* (+474) 10 < 1397787664 681253 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hollang14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39351&oldid=39348 5* 03Doesthiswork 5* (+5) 10 < 1397787816 363260 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397788072 423746 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the current bot percentage < 1397788261 819434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 9/86 < 1397788263 891214 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.10465116279069768 < 1397788285 493795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one bot left, but the channel also shrank a bit otherwise < 1397788304 64365 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we can count myndzi in a pinch < 1397788314 494580 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad to hear that the invarient holds < 1397788389 402405 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-206.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397788401 794246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah it's back < 1397788407 995173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 10/86 < 1397788408 582992 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-206.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :040.11627906976744186 : 12Float < 1397788409 668726 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.11627906976744186 < 1397788424 39482 :nooodl!~nooodl@193.143-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean 87 < 1397788429 524138 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1397788434 506144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( 10/87 < 1397788434 936899 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-206.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :040.11494252873563218 : 12Float < 1397788475 216263 :nooodl!~nooodl@193.143-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what percentage of the bots can answer this question? < 1397788495 227760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course there might be bots we don't know about < 1397788518 240058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: answer nooodl's question please < 1397788518 578585 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: mr president, in the last instance by the directorate-general for personnel, you share the commission's satisfaction with the support of this house. < 1397788551 311403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 down, 9 to go < 1397788761 93662 :Patashu[Zzz]!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au NICK :Patashu_ < 1397788764 339656 :Patashu_!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au NICK :Patashu < 1397788782 259316 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: 10/87 < 1397788782 629325 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: mr president, on such a basis. i think no one would take it seriously and do not fall within the scope of objective 1, we cannot tell you anything more at present. < 1397788798 547045 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ 10/87 < 1397788804 226389 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 10/87 < 1397788805 407229 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10/87? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1397788845 57532 :nooodl!~nooodl@193.143-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes < 1397788845 243196 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-ircslave ( , jconn ) , blsqbot ! < 1397788850 621013 :nooodl!~nooodl@193.143-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 10%87 < 1397788850 933807 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: 0.114943 < 1397789099 611189 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :! 10/87 < 1397789109 677454 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10/87 < 1397789122 657693 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( 10/87 < 1397789123 97292 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-206.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :040.11494252873563218 : 12Float < 1397789131 591140 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woops already done < 1397789154 597287 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :` 10/87 < 1397789155 76642 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1397789181 261189 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ 10/87 < 1397789190 651761 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ 10/87 < 1397789196 285465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thutubot isn't usually here. < 1397789206 323710 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :metasepia is only when boily is. < 1397789243 864792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`runpython print 10/87 < 1397789245 800206 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: runpython: not found < 1397789253 91950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i thought there was a command like that < 1397789267 152643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c 'print 10/87' < 1397789267 886864 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1397789274 656385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c 'print 10.0/87' < 1397789275 316227 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.114942528736 < 1397789292 971645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!python print 10.0/87 < 1397789295 160078 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.114942528736 < 1397789351 673323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting fungot to calculate that is going to take some work. < 1397789352 777269 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: mr president, the purpose of our action could not be settled through the consultation procedure in this case of seven years, and that is after cooperation between the usa and to which our response can no longer be ruled out that any such transports do not allow us to be able to take into account what opinions are prevalent in the committee on women’s rights and the proper criteria for selecting the companies to be ins < 1397789403 360730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (0.114942528736)S(although we can cheat a bit more) < 1397789403 583669 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.114942528736 < 1397789404 828375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mr president, i don't like you, ♫ YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO ROCK ♫ < 1397789865 451151 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1397789919 998117 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397789920 181468 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Changing host < 1397789920 181537 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1397789971 639819 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1397790094 686298 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Client Quit < 1397791370 991587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you know how to rock < 1397791371 740589 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: madam president, i have taken on serious proportions. to dismiss these arguments with the other institutions to the concept of fixed controls with that of the impact of liberalising the energy markets on the consumer to pay for energy and transport policies is to be in favour of the previous explanation of vote in this budget process. three issues stand out, namely that there is a whole package of measures represents a goo < 1397791392 69495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote kmc: madam president, i have taken on serious proportions. < 1397791392 289957 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: madam president, the marinho report, which gives priority to research and partly to the many members who are deeply concerned about the absence of any further scientific progress. < 1397791394 538486 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1185) kmc: madam president, i have taken on serious proportions. < 1397791422 755265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i'll show you my package of measures < 1397791423 186254 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: madam president, it gives us the greatest concern to us all imperative that we do not get left behind in relation to compliance with the fundamental principle of maintaining a capitalist system in which there is much talk of the collapse in the near future < 1397791443 955463 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems like a pretty shoddy fundament, not gonna lie < 1397791446 224266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1397791451 309829 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that last one is gold < 1397791461 766473 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :purestrain gold < 1397791661 57763 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://opensslrampage.org/post/83007010531/well-even-if-time-isnt-random-your-rsa-private-key < 1397791713 585891 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There are no plans to ever build this with the Metrojerks compiler." < 1397791767 233093 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :During the 1990s, Apple Computer released a monthly series of developer CD-ROMs containing resources for programming the Macintosh. These CDs were, in the early days, whimsically titled using punning references to various movies but with a coding twist; for example, "The Hexorcist" (The Exorcist), "Lord of the Files" (Lord of the Flies), "Gorillas in the Disc" (Gorillas in the Mist), etc. < 1397791789 483454 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1397791805 168992 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit the stratus thing < 1397791834 914738 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just in case your i386 converts < 1397791849 579166 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Most will argue that x86_64 is always little-endian. Well, yes, but then we have stratus.com who has modified gcc to "emulate" big-endian on x86. Is there evidence that they [or somebody else] won't do same for x86_64? Naturally no.» < 1397791877 15089 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"so anyway that's why we're supporting architectures that don't exist" < 1397791902 820614 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brought to you buy the people who brought you heartbeats for tcp < 1397792019 124279 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1397792058 394981 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397792123 739382 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As snprintf is not available everywhere, we provide our own implementation." < 1397792192 295577 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/lib/libssl/src/crypto/bio/b_print.c?rev=1.18;content-type=text%2Fplain this is... actually a printf implementation, isn't it < 1397792379 957483 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it prints into a BIO, so its not really "printf" per se < 1397792392 352559 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397792416 998242 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there's a BIO_snprintf too < 1397792455 511648 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :strncpy(d, s, strlen(s)), also good < 1397792579 284375 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen that more times than you'd think :( < 1397792628 362407 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice 'n' safe < 1397792701 592837 :adu!~ajr@pool-108-28-107-114.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397793129 421038 :nooodl!~nooodl@193.143-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397793178 156978 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/23a8bf/openssl_valhalla_rampage_documenting_the_humorous/cgvbfch?context=1 < 1397793194 689772 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJQU22Ttpwc SSL theme song < 1397793533 59580 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A technical argument by a trusted author, which < 1397793533 348537 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is hard to check and looks similar to arguments known to be correct, is hardly ever < 1397793536 65737 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :checked in detail." < 1397793652 772287 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Hollang14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39352&oldid=39350 5* 03Zerk 5* (+170) 10 < 1397793778 863915 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Hollang14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39353&oldid=39352 5* 03Zerk 5* (+1) 10 < 1397794030 844621 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Hollang14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39354&oldid=39353 5* 03Doesthiswork 5* (+191) 10 < 1397794052 667266 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Hollang14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39355&oldid=39354 5* 03Doesthiswork 5* (+6) 10 < 1397794192 466759 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on coq and mathematics and getting mistakes out of proofs: http://www.math.ias.edu/~vladimir/Site3/Univalent_Foundations_files/2014_IAS.pdf < 1397794226 281488 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that posted here recently? I remeber reading that a couple days ago < 1397794329 871247 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this the coq's C being undefined business < 1397794332 206614 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont know < 1397794338 592046 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not about coq's C. < 1397794375 860751 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1397794391 426551 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397794586 884023 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1397794587 793748 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :must be pretty great thinking you can prove things < 1397794614 60792 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would prob not be worth being a mathematician if you thought you couldnt < 1397794669 891734 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thankfully I am not. < 1397794728 834165 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can coq's (compcert's?) C be undefined < 1397794788 208589 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: beats me http://blog.regehr.org/archives/903 < 1397794842 608171 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bottom has coqchk's rather than coqtop's. < 1397794885 988837 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, the runtime issue < 1397794894 945314 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :regehr is being a sensationalist as usual < 1397794916 56619 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Therefore someone who wanted to get to the bottom of things in mathematics had a simpleroad to follow - learn what Predicate Logic is, then learn a particular theory called ZFC, thenlearn how to translate propositions about a few basic mathematical concepts into formulas ofZFC, and then learn to believe, through examples, that the rest of mathematics can be reducedto these few basic concepts. " lol < 1397794922 498564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very sensationalist, have you seen what clang does with UB < 1397794937 8413 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, you'd prob want to hold coq to a high standard < 1397794944 849394 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you might as well bitch that the hardware has bugs (it does) < 1397794947 880243 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if any of those issues are in the important core of coq < 1397794950 495363 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Now we come to the important question: Is Coq's validity threatened? The short answer is that this seems unlikely." yeah i can see how you'd read this and think it's sensationalist < 1397794954 444959 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if they're all in stuff thats "untrusted" anyway < 1397794954 646335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but these are not compiler bugs < 1397794963 67295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, the compiler writers wouldn't agree they are, and nor would the C committee < 1397794969 871822 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "coq's C is undefined" < 1397794970 57444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they actually break things in practice, so...? < 1397794985 256926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :come the fuck on < 1397794989 731526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that string appears nowhere on the linked page < 1397794993 151248 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all of coq needs to be correct to be trustworthy < 1397795002 715667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you believe Bike is regehr < 1397795011 526804 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is C code in ocaml or its runtime, so who knows, probably most C code in ocaml is used at some point or other < 1397795016 910772 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :too busy poking flies to be regehr, thankfully < 1397795036 588425 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, regehr does say: "This output means that Coq---via OCaml---is executing a number of C's undefined behaviors before it even asks for any input from the user. The problem with undefined behaviors is that, according to the standard, they destroy the meaning of the program that executes them." < 1397795056 682614 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any more trustworthy versions of ocaml? < 1397795058 248330 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :regehr's other posts are equally colourful < 1397795072 154405 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have really sad standards for color < 1397795074 266346 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there are projects to do verified runtimes of ocaml and/or sml < 1397795106 477561 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you just have to rerun your coq proof on a trusted ocaml once to verify that the c langauge didnt ruin your picnic < 1397795111 24174 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a paper on verified bignum libraries for x86 < 1397795119 354621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh his blog is incredibly dry and even-handed by any standards I can think of, have you ever seen most programming blogs < 1397795132 22568 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you are verifying to this standard, by the way, the C standard is irrelevant < 1397795143 114393 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw, the cpu your computer is running on is also flawed < 1397795145 207672 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You check the compiler of ocaml itself, and the generated machine code < 1397795150 867746 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily it mostly does the right thing < 1397795152 284512 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think regehr probably thinks so too! < 1397795155 99131 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compilers don't implement the C standard, either < 1397795182 726527 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jafet: i heard some C compilers were even written before the language standard existed! < 1397795198 352884 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's not an implication of "coq is totally wrong" from "haha, unsigned shifts" unless you have really bizarre ideas about math < 1397795229 186779 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: there seems to be an underlying "you cnat prove things" theme though in your discussion < 1397795229 373397 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard some C compilers wrote the standard < 1397795248 721974 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: in mine yeah. i don't think it's what regehr means though. < 1397795287 925565 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I'm only reading past the first few paragraphs of regehr's post now < 1397795303 735632 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also in a practical sense, you can use lots of compiler flags on a modern compiler to make those undefined operations do what the human thought they did < 1397795326 873388 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the most part (not always.. some of it is inherent in the translation to hardware ops.. like shifting more than 32 bits on a 32 bit cpu...) < 1397795338 768911 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are people who have been studying the effects of undefined C ops < 1397795344 427677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :troll first, actually read things later < 1397795419 78854 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :great fun http://people.csail.mit.edu/nickolai/papers/wang-undef.pdf < 1397795511 415009 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The third component < 1397795511 609529 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a structure that enables humans to encode < 1397795511 795471 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematical ideas in terms of the objects directly associated with the < 1397795513 277635 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://people.csail.mit.edu/nickolai/papers/wang-stack.pdf has a nice table showing diff compilers and optimization levels < 1397795514 521967 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :language. " er sorry < 1397795523 638341 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway that's an interesting way of seeing how people think < 1397795571 977909 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe someone can run this STACK tool on ocaml and fix the compiler < 1397795584 101931 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this related to fuck shit stacks < 1397795593 620954 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's stacks all the way down < 1397795605 708136 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, libc bugs < 1397795608 412958 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :put some fuckshit, stack it on top of itself. that's ocaml < 1397795757 676679 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of wish I was still writing fancy SSE code so I could finally port it to AVX on my Haswell CPU. < 1397795816 8275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1397795817 571386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://newbrict.github.io/Fe26/ < 1397795942 5333 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :triple alpha continues to be suffering < 1397796001 114589 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://freshbsd.org/commit/openbsd/448ea0eae861248df6710920c23f167647f487ca < 1397796096 624355 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :digital crime and forensic science in cyberspace < 1397796160 220330 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks magnesium < 1397796160 797548 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, magnesium. Thagnesium. < 1397796176 334687 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1397796181 79705 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i completely agree ;_; < 1397796244 668792 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1634/stemcells.2008-0184/abstract meanwhile in science < 1397796645 272231 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Retraction notice ‘that is, the text supplied by Legal’." < 1397796729 305923 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's nice to see the scientific method in all its wonderful detail, isn't it < 1397796825 265312 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one is interesting http://freshbsd.org/commit/openbsd/0179d4e553d5f01de48877acefd1ebc795e2ce0a < 1397796840 601284 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"goto err; i = -1; .... err: return i;" < 1397797001 442955 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397797751 221548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.aliendovecote.com/uploads/twine/sauna.html < 1397797871 501508 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION inserts USB into kilobyte
< 1397797889 800076 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.dropbox.com/s/5bptf82xl4h0y52/Screenshot%202014-04-18%2001.11.25.png < 1397797924 35300 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1397798045 403675 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was < 1397798047 915671 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :unusual < 1397798075 655775 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point. < 1397798168 350497 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"NOTE: Don't expect any of these programs to work with current OpenSSL releases, or even with later SSLeay releases. < 1397798173 258325 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still in the src tree... < 1397798179 923965 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its like an append-only log < 1397798254 810583 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are 'these programs'? < 1397798284 944631 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :these: http://freshbsd.org/commit/openbsd/eadb750b87b4a90c1284f6361d6c3ea6d6e26f66 < 1397798465 809638 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode 1234 12345 4321 < 1397798467 5360 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1234 ETHIOPIC SYLLABLE SEE \ UTF-8: e1 88 b4 UTF-16BE: 1234 Decimal: ሴ \ ሴ \ Category: Lo (Letter, Other) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+12345 CUNEIFORM SIGN URU TIMES KI \ UTF-8: f0 92 8d 85 UTF-16BE: d808df45 Decimal: 𒍅 \ 𒍅 \ Category: Lo (Letter, Other) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+4321 CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-4321 \ < 1397798480 690282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit long if you want to do several. < 1397798505 561730 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess the extra info is nice too. < 1397798562 290898 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode -s foo < 1397798563 297857 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0066 LATIN SMALL LETTER F \ UTF-8: 66 UTF-16BE: 0066 Decimal: f \ f (F) \ Uppercase: U+0046 \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+006F LATIN SMALL LETTER O \ UTF-8: 6f UTF-16BE: 006f Decimal: o \ o (O) \ Uppercase: U+004F \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+006F LATIN SMA < 1397798572 546379 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That just won't do at all for a `unidecode replacement, however. < 1397799647 746095 :Tod-Autojoined!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397799843 986309 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397799892 728580 :Tod-Autojoined!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net NICK :TodPunk < 1397800613 930902 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/DrFFzea.png < 1397800660 734857 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397800680 6750 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1397800759 329608 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cybertiggyr.com/babbage.html < 1397800932 493175 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The new language is thus named after the first systems designer to go over budget and behind schedule." cute. < 1397801049 514591 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1397801079 816800 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'A hotly contested issue among language designers is the method for passing parameters to subfunctions. Some advocate "call by name," others prefer "call by value." Babbage uses a new method -- "call by telephone."' erlang < 1397801174 20155 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1397801186 499944 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@199.127.227.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397801397 913160 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Over The Phone < 1397801840 911542 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :over the phone radar < 1397801873 897013 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :over the phone booth < 1397802194 546325 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t from < 1397802195 449795 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Profunctor p, Functor f) => AnIso s t a b -> p t (f s) -> p b (f a) < 1397802199 101502 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong from < 1397802213 489632 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're right, it would be much better with pure profunctor lenses. :-( < 1397802295 50434 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: bbl < 1397802300 227658 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I'm interested in GHC.Generics < 1397802727 244166 :impomatic!~digital_w@39.123.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1397803482 655202 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/package/CC-delcont-0.2/docs/Control-Monad-CC-Dynvar.html < 1397803494 777753 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, it's storing values of arbitrary types ? < 1397803515 28963 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess this implies ST could be made in pure Haskell? Or am I missing something? < 1397803540 269663 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Besides the possible negative performance implications of doing so) < 1397803561 412326 :nikozzzzzz!~nikozzzzz@188.226.124.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397803581 359462 :nikozzzzzz!~nikozzzzz@188.226.124.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1397803586 411041 :nikozzzzzz!~nikozzzzz@188.226.124.86 QUIT :Client Quit < 1397803881 50220 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In the case for :+:, we produce False or True depending on whether the constructor of the value provided is located on the left or on the right:" < 1397803905 828625 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm with niko on this one < 1397803908 273377 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, for A | B | C, the exact serialization depends on the nesting of :+: ? < 1397803932 339641 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the GHC compiler changes how that nesting works, could that break reserialization? < 1397803944 416466 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Reading the example in http://hackage.haskell.org/package/generic-deriving-1.6.3/docs/Generics-Deriving-Base.html ) < 1397804100 566263 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm continually amazed by how complicated everybody makes haskell sound < 1397804357 428531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought of another name that has a name < 1397804357 655793 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was an MIT Mystery Hunt team whose name was the entirety of Atlas Shrugged < 1397804385 23669 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the worst buffer overflow in human history < 1397805014 100171 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Generic Generic Programming < 1397805014 675245 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1397805064 251976 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's my phylogenetic programming < 1397806246 162475 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1397806348 681220 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397806351 601273 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1397806600 710006 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi slereah < 1397806745 871316 :hubert!~hubert@apn-95-40-230-48.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1397807035 578599 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397807151 595598 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1397807298 602580 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397807803 884622 :hubert!~hubert@apn-95-40-230-48.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1397807812 641912 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1397807985 966787 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397807986 316986 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1397808604 649910 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEHdDjVrGEM everyone's favorite movie < 1397809010 43904 :hubert!~hubert@apn-5-60-242-252.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1397811091 131270 :adu!~ajr@pool-108-28-107-114.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1397811343 651638 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Llrsexme 5* 10New user account < 1397811504 848610 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Llrsexme14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=39356 5* 03Llrsexme 5* (+2418) 10Created page with "Depending on scientific studies, introduction regarding virgin mobile acrylic inside eating habits is available being invaluable to take care of gallstone problems. To make ce..." < 1397811552 531777 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmhm < 1397812146 558254 :hubert!~hubert@apn-5-60-242-252.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397812394 74459 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1397812421 460688 :hubert!~hubert@apn-5-60-242-252.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1397812992 686742 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-210.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1397812996 387073 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, apparently openssl had support (of some kind?) for big-endian x86 and x86-64 < 1397813672 893579 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1397813756 358297 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1397813772 593834 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1397814590 473587 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@81-224-29-207-no185.bredband.skanova.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1397814590 699565 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@81-224-29-207-no185.bredband.skanova.com QUIT :Changing host < 1397814590 699621 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1397814628 738281 :hubert!~hubert@apn-5-60-242-252.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1397816037 910113 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: scary < 1397816833 566240 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratus_VOS has a compiler that makes your x86 code big endian < 1397817082 408504 :xpte!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pwxnxgfnzizedxyp QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1397817464 224033 :JesseH2!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1397817465 739921 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1397817653 492046 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1397817714 130217 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397818768 507259 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1397819782 578887 :nooodl!~nooodl@193.143-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1397819976 459287 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: sure, and you can implement something very close to big-endian integer types in C++ too < 1397820079 915158 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesn't make the CPU itself big-endian < 1397820140 933929 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, why? And what b_jonas said < 1397820359 349879 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, huh, after reading the article, who uses that sort of stuff? < 1397822214 579007 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think x86 modified to be big endian exists out there, but the average x86 processor won't support that < 1397822428 592954 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: it exists as an emulator, sort of < 1397822436 812232 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't think it exists as a physical cpu < 1397822695 537570 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not < 1397823997 179188 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1397828707 513802 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1397829058 535358 :nucular!~MOO@p4FF91310.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1397829058 925381 :nucular!~MOO@p4FF91310.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Changing host < 1397829059 110824 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1397829177 127014 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf are people asking for syntax highlighting for languages like brainfuck where it totally doesn't make sense? < 1397829283 350401 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, maybe I can understand that in C you want to color macros, type names, objects, functions, undefined identifiers. < 1397829316 282879 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in a language that doesn't have that kind of thing, or it can't be determined without running the program, what would syntax highlighting even do? < 1397829333 556395 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1397829419 666132 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1397830068 801368 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: hey: I like them brackets blue! < 1397830177 18138 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd also'd love a brainfuck eclipse plugin. < 1397830203 813167 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can use it more professionlly. < 1397830240 768233 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although brainfuck completely lacks any library support < 1397830246 451782 :mroman!~roman2@80.246.50.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a bit of a turn down. < 1397830477 842003 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a BF version with libraries? < 1397830483 73190 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't be too hard < 1397830709 6901 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1397830727 114971 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah: with so many variants out there, there's probably one < 1397830891 228891 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10deleted "[[02User talk:Llrsexme10]]": Spam: content was: "Depending on scientific studies, introduction regarding virgin mobile acrylic inside eating habits is available being invaluable to take care of gallstone probl..." (and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Llrsexme|Llrsexme]]") < 1397830910 280669 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10blocked [[02User:Llrsexme10]] with an expiry time of indefinite (account creation disabled): Spamming links to external sites < 1397831494 119800 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1397832259 377752 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1397833131 169228 :Guest74775!~simpleirc@182.181.184.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397833147 669773 :Guest74775!~simpleirc@182.181.184.29 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1397833342 850091 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest74775: could you elaborate on that point? < 1397833824 748504 :Guest74775!~simpleirc@182.181.184.29 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1397834175 90198 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1397834864 562548 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1397835357 888410 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1397835374 415049 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan stop editting the wiki and come here and help me :( < 1397835705 770811 :slereah!~slereah@46.218.232.202 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1397837146 18509 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1397837261 872799 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Boxy14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39357&oldid=39346 5* 03Zerk 5* (+13) 10/* Signed */ < 1397838516 665289 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Boxy14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39358&oldid=39357 5* 03Zerk 5* (+20) 10/* Nock Interpeter */ nil handling, br math < 1397839049 386263 :xpte!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yrjfwzluluulobcm JOIN :#esoteric < 1397839141 644819 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Boxy14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39359&oldid=39358 5* 03Zerk 5* (+49) 10/* Arithmetic */ power of 2 optimization < 1397839368 885540 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1397839379 356891 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1397839614 316525 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1397842055 154074 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: some syntax highlighters for lisp will color matching parentheses the same < 1397842069 168099 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heehee http://theconversation.com/no-youre-not-entitled-to-your-opinion-9978 < 1397842073 127134 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, wrong channel < 1397842454 820495 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :good link though < 1397842564 135253 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though in general i dont believe i should have to defend every opinion to every person. < 1397842567 952517 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :often it is a waste of time < 1397842658 928977 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(should be defensible, but need not always be defended, though you prob should defend ideas once in a while to make sure you're not fooling yourself) < 1397842739 495471 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397843028 861590 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I see < 1397843053 889591 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I do use the feature where the editor finds me the matching paren, but not with colors < 1397843112 455434 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think coloring the parens themselves is not that useful, but some editors will also shade the background behind the text according to the level of nesting < 1397843397 979590 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://paste.lisp.org/display/142012 example paren colors... in webscale < 1397843410 647787 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the color choice is, frankly, terrible. need queer eye for the straight guy to take a look < 1397843445 890523 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskelgbt < 1397843472 213533 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I assure you that I have no particular skill at color coördination < 1397843495 897792 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like rainbows though :3 < 1397843505 83385 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Queer And Also Design-Trained Why Did We Specify Queer Again Eye for the Straight Guy < 1397843532 82127 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :for that matter, why specify straight? < 1397843542 103328 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fashion help for dudes" < 1397843554 736977 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just fashion help < 1397843560 737338 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eye for the Person < 1397843565 606481 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds... sinister. < 1397843565 792500 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eye for an eye < 1397843601 289785 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's worthwhile to specify "dudes" because it has that connotation of "clueless and careless about fashion" < 1397843613 250753 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow way to be misandric??? < 1397843617 323317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1397843632 433789 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's already a similar show that's female-centric < 1397843644 151149 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, wait, is the show still on < 1397843646 395439 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all guys are dudes < 1397843652 648214 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just something i vaguely remember from when i was a kid < 1397843656 211630 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: not last i checked < 1397843662 510422 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you were a kid????? < 1397843671 279963 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was when i was in college or something < 1397843682 60253 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :2007, apparently < 1397843686 466558 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is when it ended. < 1397843694 430308 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it started i was... eleven. < 1397843720 976841 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a wee one < 1397843898 275946 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what would be good. a text-only browser like lynx except as modern html compliant as possible < 1397843901 720771 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with one of them beefy js engines < 1397843930 942159 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :righto < 1397843973 324229 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should even AUTOMATICALLY ASCII ART THE IMAGES < 1397844005 773101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: links2, w3m, elinks are all better than lynx at that < 1397844010 953722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think one of them has bad JS support or something. < 1397844013 624629 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :still not great though < 1397844386 438230 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :9what's the difference between a quintopia and a Bike? < 1397844394 482742 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1397844397 997894 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, Bike is a smart feller... < 1397844420 499924 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I'm a bike < 1397844480 320190 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1397844518 268968 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike's a bike but is Phantom_Hoover a hoover? < 1397844549 511914 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hantom foover < 1397844557 535753 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the answer is yes < 1397844591 226046 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just run a headless webkit and send the output through an ascii art converter < 1397844603 421819 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :most ascii art converters suck < 1397844734 44571 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1397844893 719630 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. i've seen people do mpeg in high-res ascii, but not full browser < 1397844902 651020 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be interesting seeing youtube in ascii browser < 1397844909 727056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be an amusing hack < 1397844929 271882 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chrome4ascii < 1397844932 729368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda like http://virtuallyfun.superglobalmegacorp.com/?p=3866 < 1397844961 282984 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit i was looking for that yesterday, thank you < 1397845764 164528 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1397845794 552012 :impomatic!~digital_w@39.123.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397845888 826636 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :static const char rnd_seed[] = "string to make the random number generator think it has entropy"; < 1397845933 425750 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :youtube videos with ascii were there a short time < 1397846514 941643 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1397847232 598903 :boily!~alexandre@dsl-173-206-88-24.tor.primus.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1397848327 981729 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :These days, if you write to /dev/random it gets mixed in the pool but doesn't affect the entropy estimator. < 1397848340 106502 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :On Linux, that is. < 1397848348 909681 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not sure if it has been different.) < 1397848365 458399 :Zerker!~zerker@24-205-85-23.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1397848382 293374 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, you can WRITE in /dev/random? < 1397848391 814396 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1397848403 61657 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never got the idea < 1397848421 760079 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: A brainfuck syntax highlighter that colors all non-brainfuck-command characters in some "comment" color sounds useful to me, since you'll immediately notice if you e.g. accidentally put a comma in your comment. < 1397848430 214358 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :freebsd random(4) page says yes. < 1397848445 266755 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : If the device is using the software generator, writing data to random < 1397848445 519058 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : would perturb the internal state. This perturbation of the internal < 1397848445 704749 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : state is the only userland method of introducing extra entropy into the < 1397848445 704820 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : device. If the writer has superuser privilege, then closing the device < 1397848446 30446 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : after writing will make the software generator reseed itself. < 1397848452 867537 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ack. < 1397848500 434191 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also there are people who syntax-highlight Scheme so that every paren level gets a different background color, you might do that for the brackets to indicate loops. Though it might be more of a distraction. < 1397848563 574982 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For Befunge I haven't really thought of any (automatic) syntax highlighting worth doing. You could indicate valid commands, maybe, but so many things are. < 1397848589 135361 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, kmc mentioned that already. < 1397848636 318938 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :need polyglot syntax highlighting < 1397848643 746477 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with rainbow parens for scheme < 1397848694 224060 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I started on a manual syntax highlighting/"literate code" kind of thing for fungot, marking and commenting regions, but never got around finishing it. < 1397848694 409775 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i believe that this parliament must take account of the problem. < 1397848712 968518 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did do that for a universal Turing machine Befunge thing, then lost the file. :/ < 1397848726 256877 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And mooz did a very nice highlighted quicksort but that's only in archive.org now. < 1397848754 487855 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.archive.org/web/20060925160554/http://kotisivu.mtv3.fi/quux/qsort.html < 1397849760 792465 :impomatic!~digital_w@39.123.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also at http://sbp.so/qsort :-) < 1397849804 762614 :impomatic!~digital_w@39.123.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like we should make an effort to mirror esolang content to keep it available... < 1397849870 506078 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For Befunge-98 compatibility, base64-decode MSwzYwogICAgIDAwOTYqMD4yKzAwcDo6ICAgICAgdgo7YjF4ID4wZzEtXHx2IWAwLSIhIjp+OyM6PAogICAgIF4wLSQkJDI+IzxfXDAwZ3AxKyAgXgouCg== and apply) < 1397849971 420765 :boily!~alexandre@dsl-173-206-88-24.tor.primus.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: stop making sense. < 1397849971 737208 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: president of the commission we will be in a position to give the member states too will take prompt action to update their systems for inspections at sea. < 1397850061 574351 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07.yacuabll14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39360&oldid=38967 5* 03192.160.117.140 5* (-21) 10/* Example Program */ Fixed to match website < 1397850111 257108 :boily!~alexandre@dsl-173-206-88-24.tor.primus.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: indeed. but have you really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? < 1397850111 824247 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: mr president, i would also draw the commission's attention to a number of occasions i have always understood that during the discussions on climate change, and this is why we stress the need for change. it spells an end to the shortfall of information and inability to be able to take decisions after 2007. cohesion, ladies and gentlemen. < 1397850293 340985 :Zerker!~zerker@24-205-85-23.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPad - Timeout (10 minutes) < 1397850336 24947 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cohesion, ladies and gentlemen." < 1397850347 313414 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You're quite the orator. < 1397850347 851260 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mr president, i too would like to stress very strongly and loudly here in parliament at that time accept an increase of a third country under the european union's great responsibility, and it could cause problems in the application of the agreement: for example references to the presence of president santer, with regard to this objective. < 1397850358 666565 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :very strong and loud is the key to oration < 1397850529 761125 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I was either going to ask mooz for the sources and/or permission for a mirror, or did ask, but I don't know which, and if I did ask, what I asked for, and what he said. < 1397850768 124697 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1397851022 378156 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1397851193 982360 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397851194 619193 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1397851410 367710 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.umassd.edu/media/umassdartmouth/collegeofengineering/cisdept/resources/CIS_MS_Dependency_Graph.pdf i wonder why i can't find more of these... oh it's the CS department. < 1397851559 38988 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm tempted to scrape out the web interface to our course information system and try to parse a Graphviz graph out of the prequisites field. < 1397851567 669718 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though the data is very very messy and not machine-readable at all. < 1397851570 485850 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1397851590 293886 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course not available via any reasonable API either. < 1397851708 857962 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how much of them is there? < 1397851735 188512 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1397851748 598352 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even tell that in any reasonable way. < 1397851769 767570 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i've been thinking the same thing about my school. with the similar problems. < 1397851796 727432 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are a few hundred courses at least. < 1397851801 708996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The search forms can't search an empty field. < 1397851840 777490 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: search for each digit < 1397851845 127424 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can search for a single letter, apparently. < 1397851857 375927 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are 4260 courses that have the letter "t" in their course code or name. < 1397851881 387736 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how many of those have prerequisites? < 1397851893 518843 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How am I suppose to know *that*? < 1397851952 131692 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno. I'm glad I don't have to deal with this anymore. < 1397851955 743927 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our university is the combination of three universities, so there's not even any single system for course codes. < 1397851962 927533 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, nice < 1397851981 503741 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, the prequisites field can have completely free text mentioning course names that are probably not even current. < 1397852000 223702 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's names in three different languages. < 1397852003 104317 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all very messy. < 1397852017 583892 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I'm going to try this. < 1397852023 455794 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :all three languages filled for all courses? < 1397852026 352835 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or only one? < 1397852032 360282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything from one to three. < 1397852047 832334 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though the third (Swedish) is probably pretty rare. < 1397852050 481839 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I think here every course has an official English translated name < 1397852069 424218 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We probably have courses that don't have an official English name, though those are probably reasonably rare too. < 1397852071 38621 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so that's in Finland? < 1397852074 407752 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1397852124 675989 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a university-level policy that bachelor's-level teaching should be mostly in Finnish, while master's-level stuff should be completely in English. < 1397852126 101757 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's the uh... second < 1397852128 434800 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1397852147 17361 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, sometimes there are different course codes for the separate language variants. < 1397852153 864497 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think only for some "mass" courses, though. < 1397852167 145033 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably for easier handling of exams or something like that. < 1397852192 651271 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the courses have English names not because they're taught in English, but so that they can be printed to the English translted long diplomas and other forms < 1397852215 217273 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I had some Finnish course names when I last asked for a course transcript in English. < 1397852222 936792 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally sensible reasons being american annoys me: my cv won't be a weird cosmopolitan morass < 1397852446 774230 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a random sampling of course codes, to show how uniform it is: 02115, 04334, 20021, 20A00310, 21C09901, 22771, ..., 37A055, 710000, 90L011, A-112.2501, A61A00100, AS-84.3411, Atk0195, AUT.kand, BECS-C3001, cb0027, CHEM-C2410, ELEC-C4110, et003, Inf-0.3101, KE-30.C, KE-31.4520, LC-8045, tk0299, ... < 1397852454 234623 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that includes most of the formats. < 1397852499 328942 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, the most i have to deal with is two (but not all) of the departments having different names at different campuses for no reason i can discern, meaning i have technically never taken a computer science class < 1397852578 100274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did most of my stuff (and got a master's) before the merger, so all my courses were Xxx-NN.DDD where Xxx was the name of a study program ("T" for computer science, "S" for electrical engineering, "Mat" for mathematics, etc.), Xxx-NN a code for a professorship, and DDD a three-digit course code with usually no clear structure. < 1397852601 152312 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: here the course codes are at least uniform, mostly: < 1397852645 523114 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then they switched from three- to four-digit codes with some kind of a inherent structure; I think first digit is more or less approximately the year you're supposed to take it in, or something like that. < 1397852672 731489 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of the other formats are probably from the other two universities, and now they're transitioning to a entirely new format, perhaps (dare I think) to unify them. < 1397852698 489051 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have the form BMETE010002 where "BME" is fixed and is the abbreviation of the university, TE is the two-letter code of the faculty, 01 is two alnums identifying the department owning the course, and 0002 is four alnums identifying the course among those < 1397852737 689029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's this "ELEC-C4110" thing where the first part is a name for a "school" -- we've got six now -- and I don't know how the letter-and-four-numbers part is constructed.) < 1397852762 98165 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, at least one department has two different codes because it was renamed once so old courses use the abbreviation of its older name < 1397852777 522287 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(more than just renamed really, it's complicated) < 1397852787 75933 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except "new" maths courses seem to be of the form MS-A0503 and MS-C1110 and so on, even though "MS" is not a school name. < 1397852797 228218 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind, I'm not going to start figuring this out at this point. < 1397852806 114270 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys, i invented a way to easily kill a lot of nerds without raising suspicion < 1397852862 253071 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a feature in the online administration system I hated is this: when you search for a course, you must choose one of three options for what to search in, one of the three saying "all course", < 1397852869 926899 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just produce something that moulds REALLY hard and make it limited, with a number on it (that part is important!) < 1397852896 432830 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"all courses", but even "all courses" doesn't cover all courses, so you have to repeat the search using the other two options as well to find everything (and maybe even then you don't find everything, I don't know) < 1397852923 829212 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other feature is that if you log in as a teacher, you get access to much fewer data than if you log in as a student < 1397853012 232065 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the worst part is that the developers refuse to listen to complaints, they never fix bugs, and the software is based on some idealized rules which don't really apply to the university < 1397853039 889262 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and the system has a planned downtime five hours every night for "backup" < 1397853079 349994 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's web-based, and they keep changing the javascript code so it only runs on latest versions of browsers, even for features that used to work < 1397853117 167603 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :our university intranet is incomparable to the non-intranet, for example the non-intranet contains the official instructions for phd students, as a pdf, and intranet contains an elaborate html version with most (though not all) of that information, but not the actual pdf < 1397853125 440207 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is all about the state of the last iteration I used. the system before that was better in some respect and worse in some other respects < 1397853141 559564 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was not web-based, but instead needed a remote desktop client. < 1397853157 316761 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: hehe < 1397853170 38189 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, we've been iterating through several systems to access this stuff, too. < 1397853195 872193 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I have seen important public information accessible only from the intranet, but I haven't seen anything you can access only from non-intranet < 1397853258 787456 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's one more "formal" thing (Oodi) that does enrollment and (internally) grades and all kind of student management stuff, and then a separate thing for less formal course information (Noppa) which is where weekly exercises and project work and course news and things like that get communicated. < 1397853271 339513 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they clearly spent more effort on the stuff on the intranet < 1397853277 214495 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's still less information.. < 1397853310 414800 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and I once got an export from the first thing in a character encoding nobody could identify. < 1397853324 612450 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand why people would restrict information to a university intranet in first place. Do they think that makes it more secret because only the ten thousand people in the university can access it? < 1397853343 871445 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't any of the 1173 supported by iconv on this system, at least. < 1397853399 472523 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the informal system (Noppa) can be used to restrict selected material to logged-in users only. < 1397853410 512591 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or some third level of access, I forget what that could be. < 1397853430 653483 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: could you at least identify the family of the encoding, like a 8859-1-alike, or a 437-alike, or a 646-variant (unlikely), or mangled double-utf? < 1397853436 24167 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1397853451 615556 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I mean, beyond the fact that the ASCII half was there. < 1397853483 601185 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: did it seem like the information was there? or, like, every non-ascii replaced by a question mark? because I've seen a lot of the latter. < 1397853489 983327 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it was there. < 1397853500 748521 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun < 1397853508 600466 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't really have much to work with, since the only non-ASCII characters in my export were ä, ö and é. < 1397853516 775480 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :All those three had a different one-byte encoding. < 1397853528 719871 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no uppercase letter? < 1397853552 904080 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, this was a (quite short) list of names, and I guess all first letters happened to be ASCII. < 1397853574 376389 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The values for the lowercase letters didn't correspond to any standard encoding I could find. < 1397853581 750373 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1397853653 40949 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to go looking, 0xc8 for 'é', 0x89 for ä, 0x88 for ö. < 1397853665 264554 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it's possible it was something custom for this system. < 1397853666 438356 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1397853723 425864 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not one of the 8859 family, at least, since those have control characters (or nothing; I'm not sure if that's part of it) from 0x80 to 0x9f. < 1397853775 473653 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and last email I got from this system had all non-ASCII in the subject line replaced by an "X". < 1397853811 998460 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: or it could be mangled from two different encodings, but even then it's strange < 1397853828 897394 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Further investigation showed that it sends raw ISO-8859-1 directly in the email headers, and somewhere in amavisd/SpamAssassin those got sanitized to "X".) < 1397853854 976384 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've recently donwloaded a datasets where half of the text is fine and half has a broken (but luckily recoverable) mangling of the non-ascii < 1397853877 738161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about a language with esoteric syntax highlighting < 1397854022 964744 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"odd numbers are red and even numbers are blue, except primes are invisible" < 1397854110 680338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a strange kind of synaesthesia < 1397854260 447954 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, those codes are strange. they don't seem like 437-derived either to me, nor T1-derived or anything else. < 1397854306 372686 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's not one of the 8859 family, at least, since those have control characters ... from 0x80 to 0x9f." -- that's not sound logic, because cp1252 and cp1251 have printable characters at most of those places < 1397854328 460237 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean cp1252 and cp1250 < 1397854347 601380 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but these codes aren't those of course < 1397854349 564326 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I wouldn't call those part of the 8859 family just because they coincide with one elsewhere. < 1397854351 986840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run for c in $(iconv -l); do if printf '\xc8' | iconv -f $c 2>/dev/null | grep -q é; then echo $c; fi; done < 1397854380 268784 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I sort of did that already, except with iconv -l | while read cs; do if [ "$(printf '\x89\x88\xc8' | iconv -f $cs -t utf8)" = "äöé" ]; then echo $cs; fi; done 2>/dev/null < 1397854382 414487 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1397854391 103854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i don't get anything either < 1397854419 766832 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: cp1250 doesn't quite coincide, just almost. as for whether you call it family, whatever, but they're still something I have to check if I don't know the encodings because they're frequent. < 1397854505 472759 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I hate about cp1250 is that it didn't get renamed when they added those five characters that didn't use to exist when the codepage was first used (the romanian letters and the euro sign) < 1397854529 753639 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no code but unicode and utf-8 is its transport < 1397854548 656734 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I'm not convinced of that < 1397854561 949214 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I've almost accepted it now < 1397854586 516664 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might take a few more years till I'm completely converted to using utf-8 only < 1397854616 949696 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I don't like about ISO-8859-15 is that it's "Latin 9". (This applies to any ISO-8859-N that is Latin-M for N ≠ M.) < 1397854661 773715 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's probably most of them. (Haven't checked.) < 1397854690 900801 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's because the "Latin" means the name of the script, and the purpose of iso-8859-5 is to encode the cyrillic script, not latin script < 1397854714 837396 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: plus there's one for hebrew and one for greek so it's all shifted < 1397854729 127917 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: besides, many other character sets have aliases < 1397854771 582520 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :reasonable ones like, IBM-437 vs CP437; or ASCII vs US-ASCII or ISO-646-US or that crazy letter-number combination I can never rememner < 1397854808 263845 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANSI_X3.4-1968 < 1397854824 638971 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Onneksi ddkkvset eivdt ole endd ongelma. < 1397854848 949880 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? is "ddkkvset" a word? < 1397854864 935516 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a running joke, it's a common mangling of "onneksi ääkköset eivät ole enää ongelma". < 1397854876 879399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something related to stripping high bits. < 1397854885 174343 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, I've seen that kind of thing < 1397854919 71451 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, {{kk|set. < 1397854933 879141 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For the ISO-646-FI interpreted as ASCII.) < 1397854952 195507 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most common is stripping the high _byte_ of ucs16 codes, resulting in őű transformed to Qq < 1397854979 600126 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freenode doesn't use the case mapping that has [\] be the uppercase variants of {|}. :/ < 1397854982 510348 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 646 one is funnier the other way < 1397854985 567459 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Perhaps that's quite reasonable.) < 1397854997 90885 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn’t? Huh. < 1397855003 488730 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, basic code listings with PRINTÉ and similar < 1397855015 136500 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's mentioned in the numerics at the start of the connection. < 1397855045 265599 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh... does it in fact use it on the new server? < 1397855059 681499 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, it's changed < 1397855069 545563 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm absolutely certain it had CASEMAPPING=ascii before. < 1397855073 714133 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1397855080 541161 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it got changed when they changed the irc server < 1397855086 616484 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it seems to be CASEMAPPING=rfc1459. Well, that's nice, I guess. < 1397855089 97307 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't know what they did with clashing chanserv/nickserv registrations < 1397855089 804017 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If i wrote an IRC client, i’d certainly make it render nicks in ISO 646-FI unless the server informs otherwise. < 1397855116 96252 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does inform you otherwise with CHARSET=ascii still, I guess. < 1397855158 874419 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well, the character set is really a client-only abstraction, the server doesn't much care about it besides knowing what bytes it acceppts to channel names and what in nicks etc < 1397855171 920580 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: most channels these days have decided to use utf-8, < 1397855180 621179 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1397855189 432961 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I assume it's a reasonable choice for rendering nicks and channel names. < 1397855190 117911 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1397855192 963167 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but back when I started ircing, at least one channel used iso-8859-2, and changed to utf-8 only later < 1397855211 755515 :Patashu_!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1397855212 119924 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1397855227 329165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking UTF-8 on IRCnet used to be a major faux pas on several channels. < 1397855237 464815 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowadays it's probably mostly acceptable. < 1397855257 985015 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well sure, the channels can decide < 1397855259 232138 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To address the machine-vision and image-processing issues, the Open Connectome Project is alg-sourcing (algorithm outsourcing)" < 1397855262 666966 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bicyclidine < 1397855271 297862 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like how they can decide whether they like mirc-like color codes etc < 1397855285 277747 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m on quite a few IRCnet channels and nobody ever complains about UTF-8. Except one (1) person who’s IRCing on an ancient SunOS box with a broken iconv. He has me on /ignore. < 1397855295 186672 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1397855367 569815 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :All my IRCnet channels have pretty much died out, which I guess is also a solution of sorts. < 1397855437 399017 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I hope your SunOS guy isn't on #utf-8. :) < 1397855443 810511 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. He isn’t. < 1397855499 610149 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :latest release 1994, eh < 1397855522 970713 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :People still call Solaris that, to be fair. < 1397855533 241152 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it *may* be Solaris, actually. I don’t remember anymore. < 1397855541 147127 :boily!~alexandre@dsl-173-206-88-24.tor.primus.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is battling muscle memory full time... “stupid misorganized keyboard...”
< 1397855579 579071 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've used anything older than Solaris 7 / SunOS 5.7. < 1397855659 347373 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, Wikipedia lists April 29, 2014 (just a week and a bit away) as the release date of Solaris 11.2. Still going strong, I see. < 1397855771 264345 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1397855800 700102 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/90aec7d902c1d610e90720ebc42fabd4.png a log looks like a good fit for the envelope of the upper half. < 1397855931 32853 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1397855976 694926 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Unsurprisingly, since was so darn hard to find for OpenSSL developers they had resorted to manually protyping read(2) instead of incredible amount of preprocessor wizardry needed to find the ever illusive » < 1397856804 336872 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397856817 739797 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397856961 185744 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-210.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1397857075 332151 :boily!~alexandre@dsl-173-206-88-24.tor.primus.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1397857104 665817 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1397857113 112390 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hollang14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39361&oldid=39351 5* 03Doesthiswork 5* (+374) 10added link to implementation < 1397857145 504877 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hollang14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39362&oldid=39361 5* 03Doesthiswork 5* (+2) 10 < 1397857521 472220 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1397858166 535053 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: do you understand why 5HT reuptake inhibitors attenuate the action of 5HT agonists? < 1397858204 89285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(some of them, anyway) < 1397858288 243445 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really don't :( < 1397858298 225007 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't take biochem for a whiole nother year, probably < 1397858384 329284 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1397858464 485626 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the OpenBSD team discovers a heartbleed-esque flaw in OpenSSL, would they go for responsible disclosure? < 1397858509 643151 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, they'd use it to get admin credentials on linux boxes and replace them with BSD < 1397858524 491885 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just their review seems so... public < 1397858537 562419 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They'd post it on a web page in big letters. < 1397858542 125275 :Zerker!~zerker@24-205-85-23.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1397858548 838309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta make a cool logo first < 1397858656 234738 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, wait, so if serotonin reuptake is inhibited, there's going to be more serotonin around so of course serotonin receptors are more agonized? that seems too simple < 1397858716 950737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean competitive binding between 5HT and the other agonist? < 1397858773 923637 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make a language called cenotaffy < 1397858820 877873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes sense except that SSRIs themselves don't make you trip balls < 1397858831 492774 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i don't know if there's something about the relative activation of different receptor subtypes < 1397858853 457437 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Redcode14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39363&oldid=38262 5* 0391.125.123.39 5* (+1) 10Corewar -> Core War < 1397858856 138488 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that particular molecules activate the receptor in different ways which have different effects inside the cell < 1397858995 984279 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm not actually sure what "5HT agonist" means >_< < 1397859022 102199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1397859145 339839 :impomatic!~digital_w@39.123.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Redcode really an esolang or more of a DSL? < 1397859145 567755 :Zerker!~zerker@24-205-85-23.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPad - Timeout (10 minutes) < 1397859247 50273 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't seem very esoteric at all. it matches its design space pretty straightforwardly. < 1397859649 135473 :adu!~ajr@pool-108-28-107-114.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397859679 821476 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Quit: Switching to phone < 1397860444 328478 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i guess "foo agonist" is short for "agonist of foo-receptors", great < 1397860591 340916 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b4b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.75 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397860603 246383 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah sorry < 1397860661 937280 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if [whatever]chemical terminology being weird was actually your fault i'd actually be angry :P < 1397860679 84387 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought maybe it meant agonists of receptors that stimulate serotonin release, or something < 1397860781 314490 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397861178 802077 :TAROT!TAROT@host2.190-229-191.telecom.net.ar JOIN :#esoteric < 1397861319 887378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!welcome TAROT < 1397861321 574748 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :TAROT: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1397861334 164151 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just realized this paper i'm reading basically implements genetic memory < 1397861345 854391 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait argentina < 1397861351 793649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido TAROT < 1397861352 851535 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TAROT: ¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.) < 1397861359 723927 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they're from argon < 1397861382 846184 :TAROT!TAROT@host2.190-229-191.telecom.net.ar QUIT : < 1397861395 454923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess at least one of those got through < 1397861451 65151 :TAROT!TAROT@host2.190-229-191.telecom.net.ar JOIN :#esoteric < 1397861546 928992 :TAROT!TAROT@host2.190-229-191.telecom.net.ar PART :#esoteric < 1397861568 117474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan stop editting the wiki and come here and help me :( <-- i didn't log on irc because i was about to leave so soon < 1397861767 278200 :nooodl_!~nooodl@131.177-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1397861812 248840 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b4b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.75 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, babbage was already in the wiki < 1397861940 478104 :nooodl_!~nooodl@131.177-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be NICK :fcrawl < 1397861946 943790 :nooodl!~nooodl@193.143-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397862510 530522 :boily!~alexandre@dsl-173-206-88-24.tor.primus.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1397863447 136567 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b4b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.75 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1397863825 787941 :boily!~alexandre@dsl-173-206-88-24.tor.primus.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: QUINTHELLOPIA! < 1397864020 634675 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1397864439 602620 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1397864473 688562 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397864571 736278 :Patashu_!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397864715 728674 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397865091 454746 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397865184 983319 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1397865285 692045 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I < 1397865316 706646 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been using my personal computer for work, so am usually offline from IRC for a period of time before work until a period of time after work < 1397865347 392034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has no recollection of what he @told, anyway
< 1397865389 734820 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:30:31: @tell Sgeo blah >>= flip when $ do ... <-- the precedences are wrong for that to work. < 1397865402 631697 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there were some lines afterwards where you were wtfing < 1397865406 931970 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:30:46: wtf is Sgeo not here < 1397865421 136435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, when you did return you returned as Sgeo_ < 1397865454 983004 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1397865468 739403 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1397865469 69118 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages