00:00:25 -!- nooodl_ has joined. 00:01:26 @messages 00:01:26 You don't have any messages 00:01:40 doesn't that kind of hurt the point of @messages-loud? 00:02:44 @messages-lewd 00:02:44 You don't have any messages 00:03:58 -!- fcrawl has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 00:05:52 I was half-expecting that to be special-cased. 00:12:28 i suspect that's not supported without creating a new command with that name, which will ruin the typo correction by making a lot of them ambiguous... 00:14:56 @burr 00:14:56 Maybe you meant: yarr url bug arr 00:15:55 @yarrow 00:15:56 Arrr! 00:16:27 @arrow 00:16:28 Shiver me timbers! 00:17:19 I wonder, what is piratespeak like in other languages than English? 00:19:36 splitte mine bramseil, hva slags landkrabbespørsmål er det 00:21:14 (not very yarrry, for sure) 00:22:37 -!- boily has quit (Quit: YARROWING CHICKEN). 00:23:31 the main norwegian pirate figure at this time is kaptein sabeltann, who speaks bokmål but with some old sea slang words. 00:30:38 @tell Bicyclidine you now have messages 00:30:39 Consider it noted. 00:31:00 @messages 00:31:06 yeah weird 00:36:08 -!- Bicyclidine has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 00:38:21 A German pirate would originally of course have spoken Low German / Low Saxon, which would be quite incomprehensible to any speaker of Modern Standard German. 00:57:21 http://www.the-apswiki.org/ this is some incredible web design 00:58:13 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 00:58:17 Very nice 00:58:30 I like http://www.the-apswiki.org/@api/deki/site/logo.png a lot 00:59:06 lol i didn't even notice 01:01:39 Sadly, /r/lolc does not seem to be the C equivalent of /r/lolphp 01:02:31 frankly the ungoogleability of C is a major design flaw 01:03:37 I wonder if some search engines special-case C and C++ 01:05:19 Google definitely does. 01:05:43 The results for "C" and "C++" by themselves are as you'd expect, for instance. 01:06:11 -!- Bike has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:06:34 -!- Bike has joined. 01:06:54 monotone: That's not a special case. Trailing + are significant in google 01:07:06 (see also google+) 01:07:57 Oh, hm, so it is. 01:09:50 -!- nooodl_ has quit (Quit: Ik ga weg). 01:12:11 I think, however, that C/C++ may have been part of hte reason for this 01:13:11 -!- ^v has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 01:15:29 i do want some kind of "wat"-style talk for C 01:15:48 coppro: C# seems to be special cased. (AFAICT # is usually ignored) 01:21:10 array function parameters, integer promotion rules, signed char, trigraphs 01:21:18 perhaps google has an algorithm for finding words that need special casing. 01:22:09 i get the same results from 'p# complexity' and 'p complexity' 01:22:36 kmc: sorry, r/watc isn't about c 01:23:39 boo 01:24:34 Bike: I get different results for "p complexity" and "#p complexity" though 01:24:54 do we have a langguage that lets you literally specify Turing machines? 01:25:54 because if we don't, I'm making one, and it will be called Tarpit 01:27:05 it all depends on what you mean by literally hth 01:27:54 coppro: there was one in sigbovik once 01:29:45 oerjan: I mean a language where the specification is some form of description of a turing machine 01:30:19 actually I've got an even better idea 01:30:30 a language where the input, in text, is a TM diagram 01:30:46 also roughly half of computability papers go through the rigamarole of specifying TMs as tuples, does that count 01:31:54 Bike: no because the tuple model is not actually something I can feed into a computer 01:32:09 ok i'll get the sigbovik cite for ya 01:32:10 wat. 01:32:36 oerjan: in reponse to which? 01:32:37 What? 01:32:37 since when do computers have problems parsing tuples. 01:33:24 "The Next 700 Intuitionistic Linear Logics" heh 01:33:33 oerjan: oh no. I mean I know of no programming language whose source code is the tuple and the language executes the tuple as a TM 01:33:46 btw i recall mark chu-carroll wrote a turing machine emulator in haskell once. 01:34:02 on his blog. 01:34:07 ah found it 01:34:11 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 01:34:13 eww that's verbose 01:34:27 ok apparently this one is written in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plaid_%28programming_language%29 01:37:21 the actual turing machine definition is in: Brother Jonathan Aldrich. (2010) Holy States Can Save the World! In ZH Bovik (ed.) A Record of the Proceedings of the SIGBOVIK Conference 2010. 01:39:55 -!- adu has joined. 01:46:29 -!- ^v has joined. 01:53:05 eww 01:57:12 -!- shikhout has joined. 01:59:57 -!- shikhin has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 01:59:58 -!- shikhout has changed nick to shikhin. 02:29:34 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 02:31:05 -!- ^v has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:31:35 -!- ^v has joined. 02:33:52 is CPython compiled to asm.js "esoteric"? 02:33:52 http://blog.detectify.com/post/82370846588/how-we-got-read-access-on-googles-production-servers nice 02:37:42 http://aturingmachine.com 02:37:52 whoa, somebody kept a bug bounty and didnt donate it to charity? 02:39:15 -!- Patashu has joined. 02:41:41 [wiki] [[Tarpit]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=39364 * Coppro * (+5913) Created page with "'''Tarpit''' is a description language for state diagrams of finite state machines and their generalizations. It is generally well established that the best description of fi..." 02:42:58 -!- Patashu_ has joined. 02:42:59 -!- Patashu has quit (Disconnected by services). 02:46:24 -!- adu has joined. 02:50:56 This game is a bit dated 02:50:57 '"Uh, well, the government did actually use that Facebook information to draft people for the second Korean war in 2013..." Todd replied.' 02:53:19 good 02:54:36 'Todd replied.' is this a book 02:57:41 It's a choose-your-own-adventure game, but needing to take all paths to really get the full story 02:57:55 http://www.kongregate.com/games/greg/thousand-dollar-soul-321811 03:07:16 -!- Palaver has joined. 03:15:14 -!- Palaver has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:15:30 -!- Palaver has joined. 03:19:07 urbit as an esoteric programming language 03:20:40 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 03:33:23 the ukraine crisis as an esoteric programming language 03:34:33 -!- MoALTz_ has joined. 03:35:58 -!- MoALTz__ has joined. 03:36:02 hehe 03:36:56 -!- tromp has joined. 03:37:01 with its highlevel compareToChamberlain function 03:37:06 -!- MoALTz has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 03:37:34 no wait 03:38:34 clearly Chamberlain should just be an instance of the comparableTo class. 03:39:07 -!- Palaver has left ("Palaver http://palaverapp.com/"). 03:39:19 -!- MoALTz_ has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 03:48:02 :t maybe Nothing . Just 03:48:04 Couldn't match type ‘Maybe a’ with ‘a1 -> Maybe a2’ 03:48:04 Expected type: a -> a1 -> Maybe a2 03:48:04 Actual type: a -> Maybe a 03:48:35 :t maybe Nothing Just 03:48:37 Maybe a -> Maybe a 03:49:29 does anybody of you know what the & is supposed to do in rail? 03:51:00 ruby on rails? 03:52:18 no 03:52:29 rail, the esolang 03:55:43 bike: have you ported ruby to rail? 03:56:01 ruby on the third rail 03:57:14 myname: checked the article. & looks kind of like a twisted up track so without more definition of 'lambda' it's obviously a crash 03:59:12 lol 03:59:47 ruby does rails 04:00:41 http://java.metagno.me/ 04:00:55 this stuff will probably kill you, lets do another line, what say you meet me down on hollywood and vine 04:01:16 -!- conehead has joined. 04:01:38 err heartattack and vine 04:06:09 StompWebApplicationContextAwareBean, not bad 04:08:19 Are GADTs == 'closed' data families? 04:18:23 -!- MoALTz_ has joined. 04:21:11 -!- MoALTz__ has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 04:21:37 -!- JesseH2 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 04:22:07 -!- JesseH2 has joined. 04:23:27 -!- not^v has joined. 04:25:30 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:26:47 -!- ^v has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 04:28:39 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 04:30:54 I happened to be sitting in the library near a CS 120 tutoring area 04:31:43 do you think you'll get over it? 04:32:13 probably not 04:32:19 http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/5/9/c/59c905daa195675abf6216e2f08ad32d.png can someone explain to me how physics even exists, as a field of study 04:34:04 when the students had left I asked the tutor and ill formed question about abstraction and partial application, and he explained that there was somthing called recusion that is pretty neat and that I should learn python 04:34:48 so did you 04:35:16 he did the appropriate thing and learned python by already knowing it 04:35:25 (That's recursion!) 04:35:47 is it 04:36:18 yes, that follows from the fact that it's recursion 04:36:31 good point. 04:52:29 "Ah yes, the Before C Programing Language" 04:55:57 Before C / Ano Dennisritchie 04:57:21 -!- Sellyme has quit (Excess Flood). 04:57:33 Haven't started reading (except that it proves False), but is http://okmij.org/ftp/Haskell/impredicativity-bites.html fixed yet? 04:59:27 -!- Sellyme has joined. 05:03:35 o.O http://okmij.org/ftp/Haskell/types.html#de-typechecker 05:05:01 -!- Patashu_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 05:06:01 [wiki] [[Talk:Hollang]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39365&oldid=39355 * Zerk * (+239) 05:07:14 "Uncharitably speaking, Haskell, taken as a logic, is inconsistent in more than two ways." 05:08:32 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 05:10:17 stop the presses 05:11:56 "Essentially we turn a type into a logical program -- a set of Horn clauses -- which we then solve by SLD resolution. It is gratifying to see that Haskell typeclasses are up to that task." 05:12:55 -!- adu has joined. 05:14:05 i heard that haskell was not intended to be a sound logic. 05:15:26 i heard that the easter bunny isnt real :( 05:15:47 wow why would you say that on good friday? i'm pretty sure you're going to hell now 05:20:49 what makes it a good friday? 05:28:39 -!- Sorella has quit (Quit: It is tiem!). 05:40:51 -!- trout has changed nick to function. 05:43:37 Do spin glasses actually exist 05:45:03 spin glass in yer ass 06:04:26 wikipedia implies so 06:05:21 well like in its spin ice article it at least gives an actual example (dysprosium titanate) 06:09:46 http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1386818 Anyway here's a blast from the past for you: A worm 06:11:01 [wiki] [[Hollang]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39366&oldid=39362 * Zerk * (-280) Amended addition algorithm 06:22:45 -!- not^v has quit (Quit: http://i.imgur.com/DrFFzea.png). 06:27:03 [wiki] [[Hollang]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39367&oldid=39366 * Doesthiswork * (-34) I am impressed, that is a much smarter program 06:36:18 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 06:52:15 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Quit: leaving). 07:05:23 "strncpy(d, s, strlen(s)) is a special kind of stupid. even when it’s right, it looks wrong. " 07:05:25 I don't get it 07:07:17 Heh, I thought it's a useless version of strcpy(d, s), but on closer inspection it's completely wrong 07:09:05 emotions and "irrational" behavior are a way for selfish genes to credibly commit to strategies which would be overruled by rational self-interest 07:10:14 -!- Patashu has joined. 07:12:36 Jafet: how's it different 07:13:09 -!- Patashu has changed nick to 7F1AAEZAZ. 07:13:10 -!- rodgort has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 07:13:10 -!- Patashu has joined. 07:13:33 i hear reason is and should be slave to the emotions 07:14:22 Bike: we, alone on earth, have the power to free ourselves from the tyranny of the selfish replicators 07:14:25 pass it on 07:14:35 cute 07:14:50 -!- rodgort has joined. 07:15:11 `run echo $'#include \n#include \nmain() { char a[] = "abcde", b[42]; strncpy(b, a, strlen(a)); return !puts(b); }\n' > /tmp/strncpy.c && gcc -o /tmp/strncpy{,.c} && /tmp/strncpy 07:15:12 abcde 07:15:46 `run echo $'#include \n#include \nmain() { char a[] = "abcde", b[] = " :-)"; strncpy(b, a, strlen(a)); return !puts(b); }\n' > /tmp/strncpy.c && gcc -o /tmp/strncpy{,.c} && /tmp/strncpy 07:15:47 abcde:-) 07:16:11 can you use words 07:16:37 ssl added and removed here 07:16:46 In english: don't use strncpy he is a lame guy 07:16:53 oh no 07:17:01 -!- 7F1AAEZAZ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 07:18:29 `run echo $'#include \n#include \nmain() { char a[] = "abcde", b[] = " :-)"; strcpy(b, a); return !puts(b); }\n' > /tmp/strcpy.c && gcc -o /tmp/strcpy{,.c} && /tmp/strcpy 07:18:30 abcde 07:18:58 oh, it doesn't copy the null 07:20:08 kmc: is that a new vhemt campaign 07:21:45 i wonder if the selfish gene predates regulatory networks 07:23:23 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Page closed). 07:25:34 i swear nobody keeps track of history with these things. need to give evolutionary biology a repo 07:25:40 Jafet: the tyranny quote? no it's the last sentence of The Selfish Gene 07:26:11 spot the irony anyone 07:27:02 -!- WOODMAN has joined. 07:27:05 brb setting up scumbag meme meme 07:27:12 Promoción GAWMiners para Compradores / vendedores Co-Op - 10% descuento en cualquier orden! 07:27:21 naw 07:29:12 -!- tromp has joined. 07:33:37 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 07:33:58 -!- ChanServ has set channel mode: +o kmc. 07:34:13 -!- kmc has set channel mode: +b *!*@c-24-16-35-49.hsd1.wa.comcast.net. 07:34:17 -!- kmc has kicked WOODMAN don't spam. 07:34:24 -!- kmc has set channel mode: -o kmc. 07:34:41 the bitcoin spam has reached us even here -_- 07:38:22 i want a god who stays dead, not plays dead 07:42:02 also, happy bicycle day 07:42:33 hell yea 07:43:02 419, uh, spin it 07:45:00 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep). 07:48:09 drop it, more like 07:48:36 why would you drop a bike :( 07:51:07 Bike do you know what bicycle day is 07:51:25 uh 07:51:32 ok wow shit 07:52:25 lol 07:57:25 -!- shikhout has joined. 07:57:58 One short trip for humanity 07:58:46 http://www.psychedelic-library.org/child.htm is a pretty good read 07:58:48 s/humanity/a man/ wow I mangled it more than I thought 08:00:01 -!- shikhin has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 08:00:03 -!- shikhout has changed nick to shikhin. 08:00:36 "damn, this is the good shit" -- armstrong at some point, probably 08:01:05 have you ever been on the moon... on weed 08:01:22 Someone needs to fund this 08:02:21 http://members.shaw.ca/rlongpre01/moon.html 08:03:29 it's pretty tantalizing that only a tiny fraction of all possible psychedelics have ever been synthesized let alone tested in humans 08:03:59 and that tiny sample has yielded some of the most mysterious and powerful psychopharmacological agents and has facilitated many of the most intense and meaningful experiences ever reported by human beings 08:05:11 so what else is out there 08:07:05 Jafet: yes 08:07:39 -!- kmc has set topic: The channel with > 100% bots | PSA: fizzie is running the wiki now, contact him for any problems | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/. 08:08:35 The training simulation consists of taking weed on earth and pretending you're on the moon 08:09:24 It's cheap, no need to run a reality TV show 08:09:24 what if there were two astronauts on the moon and one of them killed the other with a rock. would that be fucked up or what 08:09:27 hotboxing a winnebago and calling it the lunar module 08:10:17 actually there was an earlier The Onion: Our Dumb Century article 08:10:27 "NASA, hippies race to send man to the moon" 08:11:22 http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1958 08:12:16 :D 08:18:40 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 08:20:49 Siamese Dream is a really good album 08:22:06 I wonder what point sandisk is making with this ad http://ds.serving-sys.com/BurstingRes/Site-19890/Type-0/39e1ac57-fdd0-4dad-a400-b4ea62db3b3f.jpg 08:22:34 "we <3 jpeg artifacts"? 08:26:33 time for me to sleep 08:27:00 good night friends 08:27:02 * kmc zzzzzz 08:34:50 Hello 08:34:55 I have came to replace kmx 08:34:57 *kmc 08:34:59 Whatever 08:35:01 It's early 08:47:05 -!- MoALTz_ has quit (Quit: Leaving). 08:47:16 -!- MoALTz has joined. 09:01:22 -!- xpte has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 09:35:28 http://community.amd.com/community/amd-blogs/amd-gaming/blog/2014/03/03/the-wild-west-of-cryptocurrencies 09:35:36 "stay tuned for part two where we’ll explore in detail how AMD Radeon™ hardware helps provide a technological advantage for users participating in cryptocurrency mining!" 10:16:01 "changelog: switched ad network (requires more permissions)" 10:16:09 yeah, must have update for an app 10:24:22 -!- nooodl has joined. 10:31:43 -!- yorick has joined. 11:21:19 -!- heroux has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 11:22:24 -!- heroux has joined. 12:05:06 -!- Tod-Autojoined has joined. 12:05:55 -!- MoALTz_ has joined. 12:06:52 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 12:07:25 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Changing host). 12:07:25 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 12:11:37 -!- erdic_ has joined. 12:14:39 -!- contrapumpkin has joined. 12:14:52 -!- MoALTz has quit (*.net *.split). 12:14:53 -!- copumpkin has quit (*.net *.split). 12:14:53 -!- TodPunk has quit (*.net *.split). 12:14:54 -!- jconn has quit (*.net *.split). 12:14:55 -!- JZTech101 has quit (*.net *.split). 12:14:55 -!- sebbu has quit (*.net *.split). 12:14:56 -!- erdic has quit (*.net *.split). 12:15:13 -!- JZTech101 has joined. 12:15:28 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 12:42:08 [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * UncleMartin * New user account 12:42:58 [wiki] [[Joke language list]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39368&oldid=38890 * UncleMartin * (+73) /* Example-based languages */ 12:43:30 -!- Patashu has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 13:08:24 -!- olsner_ has joined. 13:17:52 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 13:32:29 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 13:43:08 -!- edinson1 has joined. 13:43:43 -!- edinson1 has left. 14:01:32 -!- shikhout has joined. 14:01:55 -!- shikhin has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 14:02:12 -!- shikhout has changed nick to shikhin. 14:04:14 -!- MindlessDrone has joined. 14:05:18 -!- shikhout has joined. 14:08:09 -!- shikhin has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 14:08:22 -!- shikherr has joined. 14:09:00 -!- shikherr has changed nick to shikhin. 14:10:44 -!- shikhout has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 14:10:57 -!- function has changed nick to trout. 14:27:33 -!- tromp has joined. 14:31:31 -!- Sorella has joined. 14:35:00 -!- oerjan has joined. 14:40:08 -!- sebbu2 has changed nick to sebbu. 14:42:41 -!- jconn has joined. 14:45:18 For your edification, the weakly connected components of esolangs.org (considering as vertices only the main and category namespaces): http://sprunge.us/gSMg 14:46:22 (Disclaimer: does not take templates into account, so there are e.g. some stuff with {{stub}} that are not counted as part of the main component, since the [[Category:Stub]] link is not visible.) 14:49:43 hm those are essentially orphan pages 14:51:13 It's very close to Special:LonelyPages, yes. Though not quite exactly identical. 15:06:56 -!- ^v has joined. 15:14:56 -!- ^v has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 15:16:11 -!- ^v has joined. 15:20:36 -!- oerjan has set topic: The channel with > 100‰ bots | PSA: fizzie is running the wiki now, contact him for any problems | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/. 15:24:55 -!- adu has joined. 15:26:31 [wiki] [[FukYorBrane]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39369&oldid=30341 * 91.125.123.39 * (+18) CoreWars -> Core War and link to Redcode 15:29:00 [wiki] [[Brainfuck]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39370&oldid=39047 * 91.125.123.39 * (+18) /* Related languages */ CoreWars -> Core War and link to Redcode 15:31:07 [wiki] [[BF Joust]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39371&oldid=37998 * 91.125.123.39 * (+12) CoreWars -> Core War and link to Redcode 15:42:44 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 15:43:07 -!- contrapumpkin has changed nick to copumpkin. 15:44:52 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 15:45:03 [wiki] [[Agony]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39372&oldid=35617 * 91.125.123.39 * (+1) /* AgonyWar */ CoreWar -> Core War 15:48:37 [wiki] [[Pinkcode]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39373&oldid=38039 * 91.125.123.39 * (-36) Core Wars -> Core War, changed link to Wikipedia disambiguation page for Redcode to Redcode page on Esolang wiki. 15:55:45 How is Redcode related to Brainfuck? 15:57:37 [wiki] [[Underload]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39374&oldid=35186 * 91.125.123.39 * (+4) /* External resources */ link to Redcode 15:58:56 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 15:58:59 mroman: It's not. But there's a BF interpreter written in Redcode. 16:00:05 Unless you mean comparing FYB and BF Joust to Core War? 16:06:50 -!- Frooxius has quit (Quit: *bubbles away*). 16:07:01 -!- Frooxius has joined. 16:21:53 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 16:51:35 -!- erdic_ has changed nick to erdic. 17:04:56 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 17:05:36 Unsurprising fact: "Language list" is the center of esolangs.org: http://sprunge.us/QFJG 17:05:44 Analysis as per http://mu.netsoc.ie/wiki/ i.e. the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrality#Closeness_centrality metric in the single, 1272-page strongly connected component. 17:06:35 (Hence the numbers indicate the average number of clicks needed to get to any other page starting from the indicated one.) 17:11:30 hmm. 3.1415 Underload 17:12:55 Intentional, I'm sure. 17:15:32 amazing 17:44:59 -!- Sgeo has joined. 17:49:24 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/lib/libssl/src/apps/s_socket.c.diff?r1=1.30;r2=1.31 "Added for T3E" 17:52:53 heh. is that a computer without 32 bit ints? 17:53:33 (that would be a reason to use bitfields for IPv4 addresses) 17:56:23 impomatic: what's FYB? 17:56:52 oh i see http://esolangs.org/wiki/FukYorBrane 17:59:02 "The 21164 implemented a 43-bit virtual address and a 40-bit physical address." 17:59:07 says it had 64 bit regs, though 18:00:46 http://freshbsd.org/commit/openbsd/61596b948ab4b982ac734df79749707a4faa0f07 Important 18:00:58 hahaha 18:01:14 i dig the commit msg 18:01:16 huh, the last one has four X 18:01:24 why?! 18:01:33 it's explained in the commit message!! 18:20:38 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/lib/libssl/src/apps/ca.c.diff?r1=1.43;r2=1.44 printf more like whybotherf 18:31:36 -!- conehead has joined. 18:53:20 [wiki] [[Boxy]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39375&oldid=39359 * Zerk * (+305) Added missing {a b c} format explanation 18:54:48 -!- impomatic has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 19:12:01 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 19:16:35 -!- olsner_ has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in). 19:16:54 -!- olsner_ has joined. 19:20:37 -!- impomatic has joined. 19:23:07 -!- olsner has quit (Quit: Leaving). 19:24:35 -!- olsner_ has changed nick to olsner. 19:30:29 -!- trout has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 19:33:05 -!- xpte has joined. 19:36:15 -!- boily has joined. 19:37:00 `coins 19:37:01 x+coin spuracoin critecoin bercoin alpecoin owlcoin selfinghacoin steprocoin lerecoin fobcoin boguetcoin shafsoncoin majecoin prelncoin 0500coin hagecoin smitacoin pbodancoin 0.1800001100acoin quatcoin 19:40:38 x+coin is nice 19:40:56 c++coin 19:41:20 I would styalize it so that coin is below the X+ and the + inside the < of the X 19:41:32 coin is below the plus I mean 19:43:38 * impomatic wonders what these esocoin things are? 19:44:01 If you make a Markov chain with the transition probabilities taken from the links of the wiki (normalized, so that a page with two links to A and one link to B has a transition probability of 2/3 for A and 3/3 for B), this is the stationary distribution it has: http://sprunge.us/ARcB 19:44:06 I.e. if you keep clicking random links forever, that's relatively how often you'll be visiting each page. 19:44:57 (Er, assuming you only click those links that stay in the strongly connected component of pages.) 19:45:33 -!- DarthMater has joined. 19:47:30 strange. aubergine is more linked than betterave. 19:48:42 http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betterave? 19:49:22 why does "Befunge/index.php" exist? 19:49:52 Hm 19:50:02 Or rather, why that name for that language 19:50:10 olsner: betterave. 19:50:49 boily: r�dbeta? 19:51:32 olsner: most probably. 19:51:45 olsner, interwiki links seems to suggest it is beta in general 19:51:52 Though that could be wrong 19:52:35 olsner, so does the Latin name, which is probably more accurate than the interwiki links 19:52:41 yeah, seems like it's beets general 19:52:59 it mentions e.g. betterave rouge and betterave a sucre 19:53:35 Has anyone actually tried taking an existing conventional programming language and just interpret it differently? 19:53:42 olsner, oh it seems rödbeta is a cultivated variant of the beet family, that it is in fact not a separate species 19:53:57 boily: Aubergine has incoming links from "Aubergine/aubergine.hs", "Carriage", "Language list" and "List of quines"; Betterave has incoming links from "Hello world program in esoteric languages", "Language list" and "Truth-machine" only. 19:53:58 so that the source code remains at least syntactically valid in both languages 19:54:16 (I guess there's probably a MediaWiki special page for looking that up already?) 19:54:29 Special:WhatLinksHere 19:54:33 it's linked in the sidebar of every page 19:54:42 fizzie: aaaaaaah. 19:54:49 or whatever it's called. 19:54:53 Well, [pages[p] for p in (a[:,pagemap['Aubergine']] > 0).nonzero()[0].tolist()] is clearly much easier than that. 19:55:20 elliott, why the name "Befunge/index.php". It says you made that language. 19:55:27 (I have no idea why I have (a > 0).nonzero() in place of a.nonzero().) 19:55:36 mroman: you mean, unconscious polyglots? 19:56:21 well... 19:56:28 that depends what unconscious means :) 19:56:29 Vorpal: same reason as http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DTalk:Brainfuck/index.php 19:56:29 s/un/sub/ 19:56:34 except for being knocked out 19:56:43 mroman: got my prefixes mixed. 19:56:52 elliott, ....yes I just found that, and I still don't know the reason for that either 19:57:13 but then, I really like that “unconscious polyglot” idea. 19:57:26 Vorpal: spam page titles 19:57:31 * boily imagines a coma patient that can not speak in multiple languages 19:57:49 Every program would be a polyglot I guess 19:58:06 Except it might not do the same thing 19:58:13 elliott, aah 19:58:31 hmm, might make it harder to make an actual polyglot 19:58:54 elliott, what happened to your befunge-98 implementation btw? In haskell iirc? 19:59:10 lost I think 19:59:12 or on some random hard drive 19:59:29 ah 19:59:56 For unconventional languages these already exist 20:00:05 just consider flipping + and - in Brainfuck and there you go 20:00:20 same syntax/grammer, different meaning. 20:00:24 *grammar 20:03:11 mroman, you could do the same in, say, C. Wouldn't be very interesting though, most programs just wouldn't work properly if you swapped, say, / and * 20:03:13 Obviously you could do the same thing in C. 20:03:16 Flipping ++ and -- 20:03:19 Vorpal: :) 20:03:33 I had the same thought just at the same time 20:03:53 but yeah. I hate it when a seemingly good idea suddenly turns boring again :( 20:04:18 although it could still be interesting. But you have to be more creative than just switch / and * 20:04:23 Right, prepare to be disappointed by life then. That happens 99 times out of 100 20:04:28 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep). 20:04:36 ah well 20:04:42 I'm already suffering from depression. So... 20:04:47 ouch 20:05:22 ... I'm already rather disappointed 20:05:26 I have a hard time of thinking of any transformation that would result in programs not specially written for this new language duality doing interesting stuff 20:05:52 Of course you could always write programs that check for it and do interesting stuff in either case 20:06:39 You could just add new features to it. 20:06:41 like uhm. 20:06:42 *yawn* 20:06:46 hm. 20:07:19 I don't know 20:07:27 Is "abc"+"abc" legal C code? 20:08:00 nah 20:08:07 I'm in the mood to make an esolang 20:08:08 damn. 20:08:18 -!- MindlessDrone has quit (Quit: MindlessDrone). 20:08:22 you can add almost anything, but not two pointers (without casting) 20:08:23 "Shockwave Flash has crashed". Dammit flash 20:08:36 -!- shikhout has joined. 20:08:43 do you folk already know about pointer machines? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointer_machine 20:09:10 mroman, I think that would add up the addresses of the pointers to the strings 20:09:15 mroman, if it is legal that is 20:09:19 It probably isn't 20:09:20 Vorpal: it's not legal. 20:09:30 I'd thought it add up the addresses yes 20:09:36 but it's not legal. 20:10:03 Pointers are a torsor or something 20:10:34 doesthiswork, I heard of it iirc 20:11:06 "Pointer machines cannot do arithmetic. Computation proceeds only by reading input symbols, modifying and doing various tests on its storage structure—the pattern of nodes and pointers, and outputting symbols based on the tests. "Information" is in the storage structure." 20:11:11 I'm not sure I believe that 20:11:31 Couldn't you come up with a numeric representation for those systems? 20:11:31 -!- shikhin has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 20:11:32 -!- shikhout has changed nick to shikhin. 20:14:43 Maybe that's meant like "Brainfuck can't multiply numbers" 20:16:03 mroman, it can, you just need to do it by a fairly inefficient algorithm 20:16:27 Vorpal: I believe you missed the point 20:16:34 "it's not built into the language" 20:16:52 right 20:17:40 yeah... ;) 20:17:44 int-e gets it :D 20:18:48 I'm going to make a new esolang BEFORE MIDNIGHT 20:19:01 @localtime Taneb 20:19:01 Local time for Taneb is Sat Apr 19 21:19:01 20:19:05 Taneb, that is a nice name, when are you going to make it ;) 20:19:08 I'm in BST 20:20:01 so midnight is an hour later for you 20:20:23 BST? 20:20:27 British Summer Time 20:20:30 GMT+1 20:20:34 Ah. 20:20:48 I was opting for B____ saving time 20:20:57 Bullshit saving time 20:21:06 or just Bullshit time 20:21:36 mroman, generally it is called "summer time" not "saving time" in Europe I think 20:22:15 Yep. 20:22:23 is summer the savings time? I always thought winter is when daylight is in need of saving 20:22:24 summrziit 20:22:35 olsner, :D 20:22:37 I'm in CEST for example, Central European Summer Time 20:23:13 @localtime 20:23:14 Local time for olsner is Sweetmorn, the 1st of Chaos in the 3136 YOLD 20:23:20 olsner: It's a mistery 20:23:35 @localtime 20:23:46 why is it ignoring me? 20:23:51 @localtime 20:24:00 How do I set the local time 20:24:02 @help localtime 20:24:03 time . Print a user's local time. User's client must support ctcp pings. 20:24:08 Aah 20:24:24 slightly surprised the ctcp reply from the other computer survived ZNC (currently on the laptop which apparently didn't get to also respond) 20:24:29 Yeah I filter all CTCP 20:24:40 well except CTCP ACTION 20:24:42 @localtime lambdabot 20:24:43 I live on the internet, do you expect me to have a local time? 20:24:58 @localtime fungot 20:24:59 olsner: mr president, the evidence indicates that community import conditions and controls at external borders and of border crossing points, one about the single currency project have been forced by fear of famine and warfare. the khran rebels, holding some six hundred civilians hostage, used them as human beings. 20:25:13 -olsner- TIME Sweetmorn, the 1st of Chaos in the 3136 YOLD 20:25:13 -olsner- TIME Sat Apr 19 22:25:07 20:25:18 I'm getting two answers 20:25:30 @localtime 20:25:33 Local time for mroman is Sat Apr 19 22:25:30 2014 20:25:45 the first one is clearly more important 20:25:57 >olsner< CTCP VERSION 20:25:57 -olsner- GNU sed version 4.2.1 20:25:57 -olsner- VERSION xchat 2.8.8 Ubuntu 20:26:05 lol 20:26:11 the first one is even lacking the VERSION string 20:26:17 so that is incorrect 20:26:22 might be nondeterministic which one answers then, and lambdabot probably picks the first ... perhaps I can set up something nice in znc 20:26:23 probably 20:26:46 @localtime fungot 20:26:46 fizzie: madam president, i want to welcome the commissioner. 20:26:50