< 1398384389 295334 :erdic!erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1398384724 546885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: a dysfunctional game with a more dysfunctional development team :P < 1398384761 553409 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dysfunctionaler < 1398384810 468673 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mind the dysfunctionality. as long as I can transform anything that moves (and some of the stuff that don't) into poisoned pincushions on fire, everything is fine. < 1398385281 619099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 huh, Haskell has a printf? <-- it abuses type classes something fierce < 1398385281 806172 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1398385840 259977 :adu!~ajr@pool-108-28-107-114.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1398385893 726946 :adu!~ajr@pool-108-28-107-114.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398385907 507282 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1398385928 830232 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398386231 140956 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: OPERATOR CHICKEN < 1398386885 565003 :nys!~smuxi@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1398387624 140197 :adu!~ajr@pool-108-28-107-114.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1398387729 694157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be a macro, like Rust's equivalent < 1398387761 428590 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to say that it should use typed formatting combinators instead of format strings < 1398387767 693938 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but format strings are pretty compelling for i18n < 1398387799 119571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can do i18n well with formatting combinators. < 1398387813 506530 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hm it could easily be a quasiquote... < 1398387821 482066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there is a macro printf somewhere in TH, actually < 1398387855 438065 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, but with the macro you can't load translations at runtime < 1398387866 77330 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or switch languages very easily < 1398387888 16908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you can do it with Typeable if nothing else. < 1398387899 303386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, macro < 1398387899 450795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a haskell printf which can do that... < 1398387906 762581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: aiui, translators (who are not necessarily developers) are very used to the tooling that goes with format strings < 1398387949 714440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: would they care if the translation string looks like "foo" % int % "bar" rather than foo%dbar? < 1398387958 367260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess it's not that hard to write a wrapper around usual printf < 1398388012 16117 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for all I know Rust has support for dynamic format strings too < 1398388015 370014 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all the compiler is a library < 1398388174 988212 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1398388236 675618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell printf doesn't seem to have any of that fancy reordering stuff < 1398388284 623726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly with the way C printf works it would be impossible to write a typesafe haskell wrapper around it < 1398388318 900242 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you want reordering for i18n < 1398388434 539810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want identifier keys, really. < 1398388446 735580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk: hi we decided you have to rename s t a b into s w a t, hth < 1398388456 546180 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1398388461 626576 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: today I ate at King of Falaf[ei]l < 1398388469 292775 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they spell it both ways on the sign) < 1398388506 97452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what's an identifier key < 1398388567 827147 :fowl!~fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1398388634 899377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: as in, along the lines of the python '%(foo)s %(bar)s' % {'foo': ..., 'bar': ...} syntax < 1398388637 939927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it used to be named Falafel Burger King < 1398388647 142949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or '{foo} {bar}'.format(foo=..., bar=...) in python 3 < 1398388656 102860 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: can do typesafe format with dependent types < 1398388670 1073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: no more useful than the macro version in practice < 1398388733 654193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: at that point you have a strong argument for just embedding subexpressions and having it be a templating language. foo and bar can just be locals, after all < 1398388780 272848 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: was it delicious < 1398388788 776623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i think kmc's comments are to the effect you _really really_ don't want translators to need to know haskell. < 1398388800 649390 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes < 1398388809 74735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: though it wasn't as good as the first falafel sandwich I had there < 1398388812 906668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll never be as good :/ < 1398388824 259366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+that < 1398388829 692635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: say you have (\n -> [fmt|Result %d{n} is %s{result n}.|]) [0..10] < 1398388838 92923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a translator will see Result %d{n} is %s{result n}. < 1398388854 194843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is more accessible than Result %d{0} is %s{1}. or whatever a direct printf style thing would give you < 1398388864 868820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course embedding complex expressions would be unreadable, but not only for the translator. < 1398388865 428853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well i suppose they are opaque enough there < 1398388885 995832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do something complex you can just let complicated = ... in [fmt| ... %d{complicated} ...|] < 1398389010 634980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1398389013 653909 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1398389143 205942 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1398389440 916753 :fowl!~fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth JOIN :#esoteric < 1398389544 830977 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have been pissed if Cryptol's number literal syntax included octal with just a leading 0 < 1398389550 799534 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's 0o) < 1398389616 71341 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1398389747 26152 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm glad you're not pissed < 1398389999 221851 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :who ever thought that leading 0 octal thing was a good idea < 1398391380 891431 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1398392039 251323 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1398392544 697175 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1398392701 974963 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1398392702 224411 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1398392974 730233 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1398393448 610683 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1398393466 944904 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/hSgim85.jpg < 1398393500 299822 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m not sure why you even want syntax for different bases since every base is 10. < 1398393629 888657 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But do you mean 0b10, 0x10, 010, or 10? < 1398393631 149494 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1398393692 644492 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe data:application/octet-stream;base64,10= ? < 1398393739 455099 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a joke in the image somewhere < 1398393842 967469 :adu!~ajr@pool-108-28-107-114.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398393900 638409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, just an octopussy hth < 1398394191 288237 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww, while Erlang supports 16#1abc, it does not support 16#10#1abc or (16#10)#1abc. < 1398395704 638779 :nys!~smuxi@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1398395764 254767 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1398395782 409944 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1398396305 316594 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1398396479 594903 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"He got a prison sentence of at least 315 years and 8 months to life behind bars and has a 2309 parole eligibility date." < 1398396514 428273 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Who? < 1398396519 386677 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.. what... I don't get it. Is this like 'multiple life sentences'? Can parole eligibility dates be reduced? < 1398396522 299965 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Colin Ferguson < 1398396606 934762 :fowl!~fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, just in case prisoners get ahold of trancendence-enabling computers < 1398396660 400848 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you need another judge to change parole eligibility < 1398396672 17520 :fowl!~fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :one day we'll be able to put evil people inside mirrors and throw them into space like superman 2 < 1398396693 425646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then we'll all be arrested for galactic littering. < 1398396694 836886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote one day we'll be able to put evil people inside mirrors and throw them into space like superman 2 < 1398396696 252307 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1187) one day we'll be able to put evil people inside mirrors and throw them into space like superman 2 < 1398396795 55668 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1398396814 172916 :kwertii!~kwertii@unaffiliated/kwertii JOIN :#esoteric < 1398397197 302166 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there are some things you can't technically get life imprisonment for, but if you do enough stuff it will add up to past the amount anybody would actually live. i think these things are mostly technicalities. < 1398397278 683430 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem PRIVMSG #esoteric :tertu: Colin Ferguson was a murderer. Surely you can get life for that < 1398397330 398055 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :315 years and 8 months to life < 1398397333 846371 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't make sense < 1398397403 865477 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem PRIVMSG #esoteric :tertu: Sure it does < 1398397420 293274 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my attempt at interpreting this is that, if he lived for 315 years, 8 months and showed good behavior the whole time, he could get off then < 1398397428 891379 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if he didn't it'd become a life sentence < 1398397462 350868 :fowl!~fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats pretty common in the states < 1398397469 710221 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if he's later exonerated of something the entire sentence won't disappear. it's pretty common < 1398397474 817223 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem PRIVMSG #esoteric :tertu: That is correct < 1398397478 54933 :fowl!~fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :sentencing to 150+ years < 1398397493 396772 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1398397524 531102 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay Bike that makes sense as to why they even do this in the first place < 1398397525 987139 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398397613 490088 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, life sentences might have possibility of parole, while those effectively don't. < 1398397642 638849 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(doesn't apply to federal sentencing: they have ended parole) < 1398397723 261285 :atehwa!~atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1398397730 407903 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1398397783 921034 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1398398189 136917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm reddit's i18n has some strange gaps. < 1398398240 86133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my comment dates are a mishmash of english and norwegian, somewhat varying with whether i've collapsed the thread. < 1398398321 263291 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess someone made a translation years ago which has not been updated when things changed. < 1398398372 85679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :denne posten ble lagt til på 24 Apr 2014 < 1398398372 295993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :11 poeng (100% liker det) < 1398398372 296074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :11 upvotes 0 downvotes < 1398398373 827410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shortlink: < 1398398414 263101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :two lines of english, two lines of norwegian. < 1398398428 950297 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well properly the Apr should have been lower-case.) < 1398398587 872646 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fascinating. < 1398398655 5364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ved bruk av denne siden aksepterer du vår User Agreement og Privacy Policy. © 2014 reddit inc. Alle rettigheter forbeholdt. < 1398398657 998701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. < 1398398868 767165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i looked at the Yesod internationalization page. i wonder if _anyone_ ever gets the russian number - noun case correspondence properly. < 1398398910 144764 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, noun case and gender, i think < 1398398927 346525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think at least 1 is inflected for gender < 1398398966 437124 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm told there's also a difference between noun and adjective forms of a number < 1398399010 859817 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the "always translate phrases, not words" advice seems good. < 1398399052 188550 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, a gloss translation seems bad. < 1398399059 409666 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :until you find a phrase that depends on even larger context for translation. < 1398399663 941797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t mapping < 1398399664 780319 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Profunctor p, Functor f1, Functor g, Functor f) => AnIso s t a b -> p (f a) (f1 (g b)) -> p (f s) (f1 (g t)) < 1398400488 634278 :kwertii!~kwertii@unaffiliated/kwertii QUIT :Quit: kwertii < 1398401568 3657 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1398402755 954277 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1398402856 707030 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1398402858 115001 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :instimecoin bffe7ecoin madrincoin nietcoin singycoin repartretimercoin reverycoin descends.jscoin nonnelcoin monwarwitzcoin unquecoin hencoin aeolcoin ztcoin acrabarinworcoin buyercoin polisercoin mertcoin mimsheall0coin quotecoin < 1398402894 709008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :нетcoin < 1398402962 52470 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1398403497 179645 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1398403523 973010 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :da coin < 1398404392 890310 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1398405005 521382 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1398405342 906537 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1398405347 332883 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1398405361 766222 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1398405397 557865 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1398405598 702850 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1398405659 914704 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1398405958 248728 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1398406492 917199 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1398406536 438839 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --russian 10 < 1398406537 720042 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​засыcoin гидроcoin обстренкамилоcoin подкладъйствcoin распрятаcoin бельнойcoin состиротоэиcoin судовеcoin косознашеcoin вайерныхcoin < 1398406697 314899 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -e 's/coin/монета/' -e 's/--eng-1M --esolangs/--russian/' bin/coins | sh < 1398406698 696969 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​поквицкоммонета писатмонета халиномонета тыревоймонета вэньскиммонета присобследемонета опитанпаньмонета забушкарейзенноммонета антируюимонета двучнографичмонета льгахмонета пригу < 1398406799 322000 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1398407297 322723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1398407992 333367 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good morning < 1398408317 467254 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi taneb < 1398408320 694903 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1398408335 86576 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm finally unruining lens < 1398408484 299871 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1398408682 900895 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uaikxpuydmicohrb QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1398408692 305992 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1398409113 996856 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1398409546 717411 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/23x4z8/one_turn_7_cards_no_infinite_combos_amount_of/ < 1398409693 850119 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magic is a ridiculous game < 1398409706 649260 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a game I very much don't want to get into. < 1398410342 741465 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1398410387 128687 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys < 1398410388 284674 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gals < 1398410390 154893 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :others < 1398410397 755244 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive discovered the right way to think about the SKI calculus < 1398410422 114539 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do tell < 1398410432 506372 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my dad's a bigtime skiier. < 1398410436 392572 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it involves categorical logic < 1398410788 404870 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1398410809 431861 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur_, does it apply to BCKW calculus too? < 1398410818 611739 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: dunno < 1398410820 653651 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can let me know < 1398410822 902438 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :im writing a thing < 1398410828 789959 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive decided thats simplest < 1398410869 497649 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1398410876 330428 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BCKW? < 1398410887 216036 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bckw combinator calculus < 1398410933 778187 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah_, B = \x y z -> x (y z); C = \x y z -> x z y; W = \x y -> x y y < 1398410936 707560 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :K is still K < 1398410942 722923 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi slereah_ < 1398410979 117570 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah_, I believe it predates SKI slightly and I find it simpler to write in < 1398411203 992513 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1398411247 680241 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1398411253 814837 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think those are the original letters yeah < 1398411258 452910 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the article of what's his name < 1398411265 713405 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :curry? < 1398411268 733232 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah < 1398411271 821829 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Schonfinkel < 1398411276 589039 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh him. < 1398411309 183029 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Schönfinkel developed a formal system that avoided the use of bound variables. His system was essentially equivalent to a combinatory logic based upon the combinators B, C, I, K, and S. Schönfinkel was able to show that the system could be reduced to just K and S and outlined a proof that a version of this system had the same power as predicate logic." hm hm. < 1398411351 756937 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He even created Iota! < 1398411364 238066 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The original article had the one combinator system < 1398411370 605613 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But he did say it was pretty pointless < 1398411397 737682 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bullshit combinator < 1398411418 503457 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically < 1398411489 552305 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1398412213 854202 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any one-combinator systems? < 1398412247 93164 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :iota? < 1398412258 109173 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"or the runs-a-UTM combinator" < 1398412315 741882 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1398412321 655664 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that combinator < 1398412348 308993 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, here was a fun one I thought of today: can we get a minor-closed class of graphs, membership in which is undecideable? < 1398412387 841299 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :read: can we design a language that's encoded in a graph so that any minor of a halting graph is also halting? < 1398412478 180323 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno < 1398412482 904824 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a few graph languages < 1398412494 868891 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus you can do lambda calculus and such as graphs < 1398412501 525149 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The big one is the Kolmogorov machine < 1398412548 457998 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need labels though < 1398412698 681376 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any analogues to regexps for languages higher in chomsky hierarchy? < 1398412713 766089 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CFGs? < 1398412717 171073 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CSGs? < 1398412722 353568 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :unrestricted grammars? < 1398412741 502281 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything, really < 1398412822 865771 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there are the "regexps" wuth backreferences but those are just ugly and still pretty limited < 1398412872 421421 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :then all those things I named :) < 1398412947 959936 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but I've yet to see a notation similar to regexps that I could use with them < 1398412971 319517 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What computational class are regexps with unbounded backrefs? < 1398412989 425358 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti : Thue grammars? < 1398413014 674065 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to say CFGs for no rigorous reason < 1398413023 570538 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: "clearly you should try snobol" < 1398413066 924249 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets a C++ library, discretely moves the public: line < 1398413067 292394 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I'm actually not sure. I know that regexp with backrefs can recognise the a^n b^n c^n style grammar which PDA cannot. however even with backrefs one cannot match a sexpr < 1398413072 288563 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything is public! < 1398413115 153729 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: how does a regexp with backrefs recognise a^nb^nc^n? < 1398413154 271100 :adu!~ajr@pool-108-28-107-114.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1398413156 20393 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: They are definitely not CFGs. A CFG cannot match square words < 1398413159 939021 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, sorry, derp < 1398413174 458320 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, cannot recognise them < 1398413203 31501 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at the same time, there are CFGs that they cannot recognise, like matched parens < 1398413206 35146 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or sexprs) < 1398413294 412372 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :PCRE has the ability to match the language of matching parens IIRC < 1398413554 429921 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm kmc: not so much actually. its more that, the SKI combinators in a categorical setting are sufficient, but the translation isn't direct syntax, it's via composition as well. hmm < 1398413572 203393 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. ill figure out something to write. :p < 1398414008 169542 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The nice thing about SKI is that it doesn't need a terminating character < 1398414023 560480 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can assume that all characters to the left are ` and all to the right are I < 1398414150 340309 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume you mean one can omit initial applications and final identities ? < 1398414825 274053 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1398417655 872975 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, postfix SKI … < 1398417707 202773 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jot did nofix SKI < 1398418537 703294 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1398418975 636206 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://docs.python.org/2.7/library/mmap.html#mmap.flush look at them return values < 1398421308 946745 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1398421559 265159 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy Happy, Joy Joy < 1398421562 886156 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1398421580 474543 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398421594 156965 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you ain't the grandaddy of all liars < 1398421613 403680 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though my favorite Ren and Stimpy song remains the Stinky Weaselteat carol < 1398422108 686395 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, first time I think I've seen a "P" in df -h output. < 1398422584 347534 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool. I haven’t even seen a T yet. < 1398422596 749753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/LbjS < 1398422603 951324 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not my disk, of course. < 1398424377 930629 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does lvm go to X? < 1398424385 986122 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or is it E?) < 1398425039 183487 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think E; E is the standard SI prefix. < 1398425045 414351 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know about LVM limitations. < 1398425054 279576 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's still Z and Y beyond that. < 1398425087 860612 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For 64-bit CPUs on 2.6 kernels, the maximum LV size is 8EB." < 1398425098 293331 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Some outdated LVM faq.) < 1398425326 389405 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably just do a raid6 instead of forgetting to make backups all the time < 1398425413 280103 :nooodl!~nooodl@187.131-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1398425496 627563 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAIDs are kind of less safe when it comes to "user error"-style mishaps. < 1398425520 555155 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"rm -rf * ~" and such. < 1398425538 995002 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(To remove temporary files ending in ~. Not that I've ever done that.) < 1398425574 22693 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course a fancy filesystem with snapshots would help. < 1398425584 574050 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :lvm is pretty safe, as long as the idiot user doesn't get root < 1398425620 999832 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the only problems I've had so far are disk failures. < 1398425681 702299 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I've done "gcc -o file.c" accidentally once or twice. < 1398425725 112663 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :git reset helps with that. < 1398425787 91067 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, why does gcc truncate the file first < 1398425801 885004 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another fun typo is gcc file.c -o file.c < 1398425837 124063 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have hourly, daily and weekly snapshots (going maybe two months back or so) of home directories in something like /home/.snapshots/... so that people can restore their own files without bothering the administrative folks. < 1398425910 21155 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which snapshotting filesystem is that? < 1398425926 431078 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know, it's a SAN kind of thing. < 1398425937 518291 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might be ZFS-based, I understand that's pretty enterprisey. < 1398425947 822307 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's exposed over NFS to users.) < 1398426019 270005 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. I went to the .snapshot dir of our "research disk" and did a ls, and it froze up. < 1398426026 876031 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's perhaps not a good sign. < 1398426052 722242 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be merging diffs. < 1398426068 460075 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not at the top-level < 1398426123 214662 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be nearline, depending on how enterprisey the san is < 1398426142 784856 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I abbreviated a bit; there's a couple of different systems. < 1398426163 620958 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This research disk is from the university IT department. < 1398426183 629848 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The snapshotted homes were from a slightly more local, department-wide SAN from my previous department. < 1398426201 719696 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they've had at least two iterations of it in the time I was there. < 1398426670 643121 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think about a crossover of befunge and malbolge? < 1398426693 835982 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you can move over the same char later but it will do other stuff < 1398426709 436288 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1398426842 94358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as it's not called "belange". < 1398426853 869149 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or some other such name. < 1398426861 478729 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Malfunge, bebolge. Whatever. < 1398426878 177618 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melange < 1398426925 917897 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of like Befunge programs that use the same letters to do "other stuff" in the sense that it's executed e.g. both vertically and horizontally to do different things. < 1398426939 282865 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1398427058 14750 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/multiprogramming < 1398427689 837673 :Sorella_!~queen@201.80.215.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1398427722 437960 :Sorella_!~queen@201.80.215.125 NICK :Sorella < 1398428899 876227 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, Windows 8 has a weird made-up "Storage Spaces" thing, which they emphatically describe as not RAID. < 1398428983 185934 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds a bit LVM-y. < 1398428998 62395 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-- enables you to virtualize storage by grouping industry-standard disks into storage pools, and then create virtual disks called storage spaces from the available capacity in the storage pools." < 1398429002 59599 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :More than a bit, even. < 1398429036 418613 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just remap "industry-standard disks" -> physical volumes, "storage pools" -> volume groups and "storage spaces" -> logical volumes. < 1398429064 829631 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1398429151 110528 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does LVM also allow different RAID levels for each volume? < 1398429461 117906 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think so, these days. It might not be quite as fancy. < 1398429797 421307 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"lvcreate --type raid5 -L 5G -i 3 -I 64 -n my_lv vg00" "Creates a 5GiB RAID10 logical volume "vg00/my_lv", with 2 stripes on 2 2-way mirrors." -- (man lvcreate) < 1398429820 434559 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I mismatched some lines. < 1398429840 174236 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a RAID5 LV, as you might have guessed from the --type argument. < 1398430054 659660 :nooodl_!~nooodl@187.131-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1398430150 978213 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398430178 739186 :kronion!~hal@195.64.206.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1398430191 339825 :nooodl!~nooodl@187.131-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1398430192 863479 :nooodl_!~nooodl@187.131-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be NICK :nooodl < 1398430214 334653 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1398430512 587766 :kronion!~hal@195.64.206.231 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1398430868 137219 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03CodingBat 5* 10New user account < 1398432283 526135 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07@tention!14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39399&oldid=30317 5* 03CodingBat 5* (+473) 10 < 1398432289 712035 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1398432661 590565 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iegvoiykvozsjiyt JOIN :#esoteric < 1398432905 687694 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1398433507 428387 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org NICK :hk3379 < 1398433710 277766 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@nl6x.mullvad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398433787 453631 :hk3379!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org NICK :Taneb < 1398434158 280106 :nucular!~MOO@p4FF91185.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1398434158 512439 :nucular!~MOO@p4FF91185.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Changing host < 1398434158 659872 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1398434255 309235 :CodingBat!5bb256c8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.178.86.200 JOIN :#esoteric < 1398434319 569338 :CodingBat!5bb256c8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.178.86.200 PART :#esoteric < 1398434568 252938 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1398435578 630920 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1398436028 250164 :Vamadeus!~quassel@170.40.163.64 JOIN :#esoteric < 1398436028 659068 :Vamadeus!~quassel@170.40.163.64 QUIT :Changing host < 1398436028 806591 :Vamadeus!~quassel@unaffiliated/vegabondsx JOIN :#esoteric < 1398436998 248385 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1398437051 167570 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1398437164 680215 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1398438086 166362 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"1 x PCIe 3.0 x16 Slot, Supports AMD Quad CrossFireX, CrossFireX" < 1398438183 792338 :impomatic!~digital_w@39.123.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398438658 348174 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: brb < 1398438718 278714 :Patashu_!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1398438758 369 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1398438791 179285 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1398438938 182251 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1398439037 395640 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi mhi^ < 1398439104 421259 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, Sprocklem. ;) < 1398439172 183407 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, you two < 1398439213 811154 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi nortti < 1398439223 429747 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, nortti. < 1398439261 947082 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my plan of luring all of #osdev-offtopic here seems to be working :P < 1398439332 894138 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Does shikhin frequent here? < 1398439340 811808 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :idles < 1398439969 235884 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@nl6x.mullvad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1398440105 554951 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: You didn't feel there was enough off-topic discussion as it is? < 1398440211 292023 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ðere can never be too much offtopic discussion! < 1398440213 108520 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*there < 1398440259 63207 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For the record I was here before today) < 1398440331 644873 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1398440356 737932 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ð < 1398440357 573260 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+00F0 LATIN SMALL LETTER ETH \ UTF-8: c3 b0 UTF-16BE: 00f0 Decimal: ð \ ð (Ð) \ Uppercase: U+00D0 \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) < 1398440413 100619 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to be confused with đ. < 1398440423 725840 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode đ < 1398440424 461095 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0111 LATIN SMALL LETTER D WITH STROKE \ UTF-8: c4 91 UTF-16BE: 0111 Decimal: đ \ đ (Đ) \ Uppercase: U+0110 \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) < 1398440462 359910 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :ðр⽹ < 1398440480 379674 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the last char in that? < 1398440493 267361 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 2F79 < 1398440494 132179 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+2F79 KANGXI RADICAL NET \ UTF-8: e2 bd b9 UTF-16BE: 2f79 Decimal: ⽹ \ ⽹ \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ Decomposition: 7F51 < 1398440506 947183 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ÐĐƉ < 1398440507 845103 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+00D0 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER ETH \ UTF-8: c3 90 UTF-16BE: 00d0 Decimal: Ð \ Ð (ð) \ Lowercase: U+00F0 \ Category: Lu (Letter, Uppercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+0110 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER D WITH STROKE \ UTF-8: c4 90 UTF-16BE: 0110 Decimal: Đ \ Đ (đ) \ Lowercase: U+0111 \ Category: Lu (Letter, Uppercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to- < 1398440534 219494 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode ÐĐƉ | fgrep U+ < 1398440535 65937 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+00D0 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER ETH \ Lowercase: U+00F0 \ U+0110 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER D WITH STROKE \ Lowercase: U+0111 \ U+0189 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER AFRICAN D \ Lowercase: U+0256 < 1398440559 856791 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode ðр⽹ | grep -E '^U\+' < 1398440560 792637 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+00F0 LATIN SMALL LETTER ETH \ U+0440 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER ER \ U+2F79 KANGXI RADICAL NET < 1398440592 785495 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is also used as the letter symbol for the internet cryptocurrency, Dogecoin." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%90 < 1398440596 257745 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooh. It was an er … < 1398440716 705662 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-210.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1398441273 903179 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/dSXL (possible) victory! < 1398441312 897633 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also there is still `unidecode, you don't need to play around with unicode + grep. < 1398441432 726237 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you beat the poor caged-up drive into submission < 1398441818 250613 :Vamadeus!~quassel@unaffiliated/vegabondsx QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1398441872 688311 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1398441906 367786 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1398442272 639191 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just put it in a different box. < 1398442338 769007 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somewhat curiously, in my non-boxlike USB dock thing the same drive says "732566646 4096-byte logical blocks" rather than the "5860533168 512-byte logical blocks" + "4096-byte physical blocks" thing it does in this box. < 1398442640 242933 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1398445281 520358 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Creeparoo 5* 10New user account < 1398446254 368467 :Vamadeus!~quassel@170.40.163.64 JOIN :#esoteric < 1398446254 515777 :Vamadeus!~quassel@170.40.163.64 QUIT :Changing host < 1398446254 515847 :Vamadeus!~quassel@unaffiliated/vegabondsx JOIN :#esoteric < 1398446948 98971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fizzie < 1398446949 663014 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning < 1398447148 8554 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07@tention!14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39400&oldid=39399 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+0) 10Why would you change that? < 1398447349 994531 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1398447353 881205 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evening. < 1398447398 759662 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1398447535 88309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat $(which unicode) < 1398447535 742001 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/python \ \ \ import os, glob, sys, unicodedata, locale, gzip, re, traceback, encodings \ import urllib, webbrowser, textwrap \ \ # bz2 was introduced in 2.3, we want this to work also with earlier versions \ try: \ import bz2 \ except ImportError: \ bz2 = None \ \ # for python3 \ try: \ unicode \ except NameError: \ < 1398447542 120722 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeez < 1398447550 146148 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run wc -l $(which unicode) < 1398447550 746005 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :815 /hackenv/bin/unicode < 1398447598 879886 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /bin/unicode.old < 1398447599 273411 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=unicode nowadays. < 1398447599 490477 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /bin/unicode.old: No such file or directory < 1398447621 561875 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat /bin/unicode.* < 1398447621 793389 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /bin/unicode.*: No such file or directory < 1398447640 419506 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't want a /bin/, you want a bin/. < 1398447650 236937 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/unicode.* < 1398447650 811959 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ # -*- encoding: utf-8 -*- \ import re \ import sys \ import unicodedata \ def l(c): m = re.match('(?:U[+])?([0-9a-f]{1,5})$', c, re.I); return unicodedata.lookup(c) if m is None else unichr(int(m.group(1),16)) \ try: \ print u''.join(map(l, sys.argv[1:])).encode('utf-8') \ except KeyError: \ print u'Unknown charac < 1398447663 156286 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run wc -l bin/unicode.old < 1398447663 717837 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 bin/unicode.old < 1398447716 633816 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode snake < 1398447717 106323 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1DC2 COMBINING SNAKE BELOW \ UTF-8: e1 b7 82 UTF-16BE: 1dc2 Decimal: ᷂ \ ᷂ \ Category: Mn (Mark, Non-Spacing) \ Bidi: NSM (Non-Spacing Mark) \ Combining: 220 (Below) \ \ U+2E92 CJK RADICAL SNAKE \ UTF-8: e2 ba 92 UTF-16BE: 2e92 Decimal: ⺒ \ ⺒ \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F40D SNAKE \ UT < 1398447797 344007 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I appreciate Unicode 6.x support as much as the next guy, but I have to admit I liked the old scripts more. < 1398447800 766207 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are just so verbose. < 1398447822 188240 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also so many features. < 1398447825 819660 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Poop14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=39401 5* 03Creeparoo 5* (+1236) 10Created page with "Poop is an esoteric programming language made by Eike Tim Jesinghaus in april 2014. Poop is unusable for programming, because it's just a joke/fun language. Poop has one empty..." < 1398447848 44856 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Classy. < 1398447873 234147 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Poop14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39402&oldid=39401 5* 03Creeparoo 5* (+0) 10 < 1398447958 657929 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Poop14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39403&oldid=39402 5* 03Creeparoo 5* (+1) 10 < 1398447968 27396 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a... turning cesspit < 1398448004 352608 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone told me about a language where the instruction pointer was water/liquid, anybody knows which language this could be? < 1398448029 560539 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1398448030 647873 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1398448035 214024 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tail -n 3 bin/unicode.old < 1398448035 838293 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ print u''.join(map(l, sys.argv[1:])).encode('utf-8') \ except KeyError: \ print u'Unknown character.' < 1398448046 495227 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398448061 320282 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 < 1398448061 467517 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :041 : 12Integer < 1398448062 824306 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1398448067 54381 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1398448074 965677 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reassuring. < 1398448113 247328 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the loneliest number < 1398448142 929796 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zero is the loneliest number < 1398448195 709236 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1398448321 46111 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1398448338 695723 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398448347 808720 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 42 < 1398448347 956197 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0442 : 12Integer < 1398448349 345304 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 42 < 1398448363 583550 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>___< < 1398448389 954769 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0 < 1398448390 167068 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :040 : 12Integer < 1398448391 464375 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1398448393 372792 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0.0 < 1398448393 573125 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :040.0 : 12Float < 1398448394 782693 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.0 < 1398448399 717682 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :> butt < 1398448399 864398 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:1:When elaborating an application of constructor 04__infer: < 1398448399 864473 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : No such variable butt < 1398448401 66862 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘butt’ < 1398448404 677595 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1398448410 252955 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :> b < 1398448410 400635 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:1:When elaborating an application of constructor 04__infer: < 1398448410 400708 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : No such variable b < 1398448411 749309 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : b < 1398448423 776690 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1+1 < 1398448423 924105 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :042 : 12Integer < 1398448425 321935 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 < 1398448431 987791 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1/0 < 1398448432 135277 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04Infinity : 12Float < 1398448433 557888 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Infinity < 1398448441 303203 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0/0 < 1398448441 454943 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04NaN : 12Float < 1398448443 1031 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : NaN < 1398448534 192256 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a conffile saying in #esoteric its prefix is only ( , and coded so far that it should obey that, but evidently something is still wrong. < 1398448577 368060 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv bin/{un,mult}icode && (head -n -1 bin/unicode.old | sed 's/import sys/import sys, os/'; echo ' os.execvp("multicode", sys.argv[1:])') > bin/unicode && rm bin/unicode.old < 1398448579 185113 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1398448585 20478 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 1234 < 1398448585 609498 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/unicode: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/unicode: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1398448593 655406 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/unicode < 1398448595 116815 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1398448596 944022 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 1234 < 1398448597 617520 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ሴ < 1398448605 213862 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 12345 < 1398448605 522471 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​𒍅 < 1398448662 585886 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 1f000 < 1398448663 235614 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​🀀 < 1398448707 165324 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, remind me why I replaced bin/unicode < 1398448758 35055 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the old one used Python's built-in Unicode database, which was stuck with Unicode 5.2. < 1398448775 585203 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least that's what I assumed. < 1398448804 535789 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t State < 1398448804 683190 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Command t not permitted. < 1398448806 450331 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input ‘:’ < 1398448812 31172 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*huh* < 1398448817 877369 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: I found 1 in /dev/zero < 1398448838 165923 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 10980 < 1398448838 828433 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​𐦀 < 1398448854 895627 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/UnicodeData.txt < 1398448856 403931 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1398448859 164003 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 10980 < 1398448859 808351 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​𐦀 < 1398448863 632204 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1398448864 890129 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1398448884 554356 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 🀀 < 1398448885 202693 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+1F000 MAHJONG TILE EAST WIND] < 1398448905 261308 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1398448949 435548 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1398448972 676436 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398448974 185265 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1398449089 145252 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd appreciate if this new `unicode did character names correctly. < 1398449092 195779 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode PILE OF POO < 1398449093 28808 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: multicode [options] arg \ \ Options: \ -h, --help show this help message and exit \ -x, --hexadecimal Assume arg to be hexadecimal number \ -o, --octal Assume arg to be octal number \ -b, --binary Assume arg to be binary number \ -d, --decimal Assume arg to be decimal number \ -r, --rege < 1398449127 532050 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/"multicode", /"multicode", ["multicode"] +/' bin/unicode < 1398449128 980537 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1398449147 221898 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode BUNNY WOMAN < 1398449147 745199 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1398449173 169091 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode WOMAN WITH BUNNY < 1398449174 101991 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F46F WOMAN WITH BUNNY EARS \ UTF-8: f0 9f 91 af UTF-16BE: d83ddc6f Decimal: 👯 \ 👯 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1398449200 634181 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so it's a fallback thing now, I missed that entirely. < 1398449208 491323 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's reasonable. < 1398449244 363276 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 👯 < 1398449245 24654 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+1F46F DUNNO] < 1398449252 949754 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398449259 72261 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run multicode DUNNO # just checking < 1398449259 909884 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1398449283 606635 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Right < 1398449285 29183 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Data.Typeable.Internal.Typeable b0) < 1398449285 176664 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘M57523064348926377873909.show_M57523064348926377873... < 1398449285 176737 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable ‘b0’ is ambiguous < 1398449285 176774 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Note: there are several potential instances: < 1398449285 176810 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : instance Data.Typeable.Internal.Typeable Data.Aeson.Lens.Primitive < 1398449292 947845 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( Right < 1398449293 94751 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):0:0:Incomplete term 04Right < 1398449308 25697 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like it’s working now. < 1398449316 894167 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1398449334 129734 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1398449356 239441 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "success?" < 1398449357 766127 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "success?" < 1398449366 466191 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( "success!" < 1398449366 653633 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04"success!" : 12String < 1398449370 220299 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1398449370 421686 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | < 1398449370 601040 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/< < 1398449401 378819 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good news everyone! You can use > for lambdabot again! < 1398449454 102914 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess we can scrap the five-year soviet reeducation program, then. < 1398449495 783727 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first step is to learn to spell it reëducation < 1398449502 290849 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1398449570 273558 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone want to guess what the problem fifteen minutes ago was? < 1398449591 932210 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I hope this does not get interpreted < 1398449603 12205 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, also: < 1398449606 287716 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :reé̈ducation < 1398449625 835262 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris-ircslave: ( "calling" < 1398449625 982189 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04"calling" : 12String < 1398449675 705373 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It now also strips its nick before any further interpretation, rather than using “idris-ircslave: ” as a prefix. < 1398449783 81728 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: The prefix includes the space. < 1398449834 559497 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run (sed -e 's/import sys/import os, sys/' -e 's/^print \(.*\)$/s = \1/' bin/unidecode; echo $'if u"DUNNO" in s:\n os.execvp("multicode", ["multicode"] + sys.argv[1:])\nelse:\n print s') > /tmp/a && mv /tmp/a bin/unidecode < 1398449835 954473 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1398449840 972068 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 👯 < 1398449841 504508 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/unidecode: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/unidecode: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1398449852 547554 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/unidecode < 1398449853 912840 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1398449855 905277 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 👯 < 1398449856 816029 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F46F WOMAN WITH BUNNY EARS \ UTF-8: f0 9f 91 af UTF-16BE: d83ddc6f Decimal: 👯 \ 👯 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1398449899 682621 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yes, they both fall back to the same program) < 1398450133 333608 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The unidecode fallback should perhaps be multicode -s explicitly. < 1398450159 228473 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm sure people will often need to `unidecode 1234 or some-such, yes.) < 1398450177 552592 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-50-112-124-255.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1398450225 384926 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 1234 < 1398450226 82709 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0031 DIGIT ONE] [U+0032 DIGIT TWO] [U+0033 DIGIT THREE] [U+0034 DIGIT FOUR] < 1398450235 571033 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1398450454 746253 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, okay, I guess that doesn't involve a fallback. < 1398452078 10583 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1398452210 678691 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1398453686 405766 :Vamadeus!~quassel@unaffiliated/vegabondsx QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1398454661 15014 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ሴ < 1398454719 6088 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :👀 < 1398455035 35094 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So. It’s World Penguin Day & DNA Day… AND World Malaria Day & Ed Balls Day." kmc you know what to do < 1398455060 425654 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1398455067 754954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it really ed balls day already? < 1398455102 258922 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like last ed balls day was just recently < 1398455108 260219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's Monday < 1398455779 414715 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1398455945 885816 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1398455980 621053 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1398459623 293677 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1398459636 594182 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398459687 688808 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1398459698 908472 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1398459970 508614 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398460757 698307 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1398461124 458144 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1398461551 619157 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1398461565 167940 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-129-222.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398461569 804006 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Quit: Excess Food < 1398461614 490214 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-210.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1398462025 947231 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1398462409 174355 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1398462793 228005 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1398462839 119394 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1398462981 287552 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03AJMasfield 5* 10New user account < 1398463084 206826 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1398463084 842449 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :98076 \ a \ app.sh \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ :-D \ dog \ etc \ factor \ fb \ fb.c \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ Test \ Test.hi \ Test.hs \ UNPA \ Wierd \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1398463098 419011 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-250.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1398463105 533091 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo < hello.c < 1398463105 740976 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1398463112 343002 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat hello.c < 1398463112 878958 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :const char main[] = "AXAYAZA[A\\ATX-pppp-0```- ///P^VTXH10XP4>40PZ414>P_\x0f\x05XATASARAQAP\xc3Hello, world!\n"; < 1398463128 4184 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-250.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1398463128 178150 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1398463176 407102 :Slereah_!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1398463638 814376 :Slereah_!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1398463687 867132 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1398463723 613006 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1398463838 472150 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1398463875 488797 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oi, what's a good mail client? < 1398464486 784120 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Trainscript14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=39404 5* 03AJMasfield 5* (+418) 10Created page with "'''Trainscript''' is an estoreic programing language currently under development. All data in trainscript is represented as train locomotives pulling a cargo of 1's and 0's, ..." < 1398464796 650011 :Slereah_!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1398465487 536938 :Slereah_!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1398465751 123017 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1398466048 248253 :Slereah_!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1398466149 642119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I'm finally unruining lens <-- wait why didn't i open that thread < 1398466166 711598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :must have clicked only the blog link < 1398466234 418261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it's another browser tab bug < 1398466330 336854 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What thread? < 1398466339 267482 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What blog? < 1398466371 258451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/23uzpg/lens_is_unidiomatic_haskell/?limit=500 < 1398466409 807728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that thread Taneb admits to his sins. i know this because that comment showed up in my friends list < 1398466444 94078 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, today I pushed 217 lines of documentation into lens < 1398466467 455758 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Thanks < 1398466473 631383 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb: Nice, thanks for your contribution. :-) < 1398466475 566619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i haven't yet got to the part of the thread that gives context enough to tell _what_ he's not documented before. < 1398466495 346389 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say 10 Hail Marys and make 3 more lens commits and your sins shall be forgiven. < 1398466500 664686 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, whoa, comments? what is this, ruby < 1398466500 854609 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1398466505 552554 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :documentation?? < 1398466525 479729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk: you're highlighting "lens" right < 1398466533 965630 :boily!alexandre@nat/northsec/x-kyctysakvnxvbgzu JOIN :#esoteric < 1398466537 607958 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk, I managed to not learn the Hail Mary in all four years I spent at a catholic middle school < 1398466541 411614 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My greatest pride. < 1398466561 704720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't know hail mary, being nominally protestant < 1398466579 603087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i guess might be the same as that ave maria they sing at christmas? < 1398466599 332647 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It mentions fruit of thine womb or something < 1398466615 116590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember that fructus part yeah < 1398466621 275418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that word. < 1398466638 266250 :Slereah_!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1398466703 230658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that thread is like an exact repeat of ones seen a year+ ago < 1398466705 982708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing ever changes < 1398466789 894798 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote in that thread Taneb admits to his sins. i know this because that comment showed up in my friends list oerjan, today I pushed 217 lines of documentation into lens [...] Say 10 Hail Marys and make 3 more lens commits and your sins shall be forgiven. < 1398466791 328321 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1188) in that thread Taneb admits to his sins. i know this because that comment showed up in my friends list oerjan, today I pushed 217 lines of documentation into lens [...] Say 10 Hail Marys and make 3 more lens commits and your sins shall be forgiven. < 1398466917 777109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose it might not be entirely clear that all those lines are actually related < 1398466933 856270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well the next time it will be BETTER DOCUMENTED hth < 1398466952 532245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :next time I will hopefully not click the link :P < 1398466969 208751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i assumed you'd already read it < 1398466978 824827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i guess you are avoiding reddit < 1398467050 573817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well /r/haskell was like the last subreddit I quit reading. < 1398467124 147248 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398467182 697254 :Slereah_!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1398467197 581802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i seem to be slowly dropping subreddits too, although mainly because i read them in an order and no longer get very much around to the largest ones < 1398467235 50642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the order is approximately smaller to larger < 1398467255 5356 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's /r/TsundereSharks in the lineup < 1398467258 905128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and /r/haskell is the second smallest one < 1398467272 577191 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i'm sorry that's not included < 1398467283 546966 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :offensive < 1398467301 770229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to have /r/science but i never got around to it so just removed it < 1398467331 191798 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's rare that i get up to /r/programming < 1398467369 649410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the approximate is because i tend to read /r/physics before /r/math, even though they keep switching places. < 1398467418 948978 :nooodl!~nooodl@187.131-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :is /r/physics good < 1398467432 190198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes < 1398467525 546668 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I also went to a Catholic grade school. It made me the atheist I am today. ;) < 1398467532 255346 :Slereah_!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1398467582 528688 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk, I started calling myself "atheist" rather than "probably atheist" last week < 1398467591 845883 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I am still on good terms with my local priest < 1398467601 122142 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :praytheist < 1398467657 360144 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only thing I find myself compelled to do for an hour on Sundays these days is watch Cosmos. ;) < 1398467726 696468 :Slereah_!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1398467868 696586 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1398467918 459624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk: noticing the first subthread of that thread i am wondering: since it is iirc possible to get TH to output the resulting haskell file, shouldn't it be possible to make hackage include pre-processed versions that stage 1 architectures can use? < 1398467953 575286 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it'll output a text dump of what its splicing 'approximately' < 1398467955 862404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :joeyh has some tool along those lines < 1398467983 953419 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1398467984 719616 :Slereah_!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1398467994 363315 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: gave up on #haskell-lens? < 1398468031 953811 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways. hand hacking up the TH it generates would be fine < 1398468038 871060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk: eh :) maybe I'll be back someday but I haven't written much Haskell in a while < 1398468041 908162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk: https://joeyh.name/blog/entry/Template_Haskell_on_impossible_architectures/ < 1398468052 328409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that post/code might have useful leads < 1398468055 748608 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but it would be nice if there were an automated process that generally worked < 1398468078 675905 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Imagine you had an excellent successful Kickstarter campaign," lost my suspension of disbelief < 1398468093 469613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i guess in general TH can do OS-specific things that affects its output < 1398468134 289554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-s < 1398468193 264432 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways the code in lens should be pretty much easily translatable < 1398468241 467102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk: i'm rather thinking about what it would take to make people able to use cabal install normally and have it work that way < 1398468243 88710 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is mostly the IOErrorType Prisms in http://hackage.haskell.org/package/lens-4.1.2/docs/System-IO-Error-Lens.html that vary < 1398468265 813123 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :having a makeLenses preprocessor or some such? < 1398468279 963922 :adu!~ajr@pool-108-28-107-114.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398468291 848826 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :pgmFlenspp < 1398468303 602848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still holding out for -XLens < 1398468321 27531 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, with the ORF going in in 7.10 you'll be able to reduce the need for makeLenses a bit < 1398468339 37681 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :makeClassy is still useful though < 1398468372 486716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not actually talking specifically about lens, though. < 1398468379 7961 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1398468414 373671 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main headache would be figuring out what to splice and how < 1398468427 142412 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that EvilSplicer could probably be modified to work in general thoug < 1398468458 787942 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :given a 'shadow' -ddump-splices output file that it could read to replace splices or run without the splicer / in generation mode with different flags < 1398468496 905109 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could rebuild them with a flag, commit them, and when building on stage1 take the splices < 1398468679 846310 :adu!~ajr@pool-108-28-107-114.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1398468713 577830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yuck. < 1398468714 511503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that joeyh link explains why this is harder than i thought :( < 1398468720 946433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about making TH cross-compilation work? < 1398468931 127274 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1398468989 256425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(My longest GHC error message seen on this odyessy was actually a full 500+ kilobytes in size. It included the complete text of Jquery and Bootstrap. At times like these you notice that GHC outputs its error messages o.n.e . c.h.a.r.a.c.t.e.r . a.t . a . t.i.m.e.)" < 1398469058 861613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is the first comment on that post relevant to that? < 1398469142 999021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I dunno < 1398469147 500663 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would guess not but I'm not sure. < 1398469151 71740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know 7.8 < 1398469231 606136 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, jquery's bigger than i thought < 1398469237 62173 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :still less than a tenth of 500 kb < 1398469301 373817 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1398469307 984051 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :'j':'Q':'u':'e':'r':... < 1398469741 491966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the term "optic" official lens nomenclature? < 1398469749 604154 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :these days < 1398469765 522272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can lens rebrand as optics yet? < 1398469772 47521 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is better than 'lenslikes' < 1398469797 238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION considers 'edwardk highlights on "lens"' confirmed < 1398469814 486660 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fun fact < 1398469815 120948 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact 0 = 1 | fact n = n * fact (n - 1) < 1398469958 784516 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that last one was me flipping between channels i was talking on =) < 1398469965 118396 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i do sometimes highlight on lens < 1398469977 475497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1398470099 703352 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1398470145 203911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh they are the profunctor-generalized version of lenslike < 1398470321 720323 :Patashu_!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1398470321 867894 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1398470347 169647 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1398470371 198319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think the Apply/Traversal1/Fold1 stuff was there last i looked... < 1398470393 10645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's using the lack of pure to ensure there has to be at least one item, i take