< 1399421156 579617 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1399421188 332826 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat97.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1399421331 624506 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :beep boop < 1399421371 479277 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bÿÿp < 1399421445 312248 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat97.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1399421549 480173 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1399421733 361171 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1399421756 67992 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1399422056 451512 :MoALTz_!~no@user-5-173-55-113.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1399422141 515092 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-113-137-196.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1399422955 78978 :skarn!skarn@unaffiliated/skarn QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1399422979 521116 :skarn!skarn@binary.firrre.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1399423153 588507 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1399423179 303664 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1399423791 311274 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lofi/four-sided-fantasy-a-game-about-the-limits-of-the < 1399423824 72494 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1399424098 41717 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: COMMUNICATING CHICKEN < 1399424462 501488 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1399424957 304494 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1399425830 430449 :sevenqueue!~sevenqueu@67.8.163.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399426045 379146 :sevenqueue!~sevenqueu@67.8.163.186 PART #esoteric :"WeeChat 1.0-dev" < 1399426142 722269 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1399426269 365057 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1399426282 207556 :MoALTz__!~no@user-5-173-55-113.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1399426321 272185 :MoALTz_!~no@user-5-173-55-113.play-internet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1399427006 733870 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hofstadter's book mentions BlooP, which has only loops limited by the number calculated ahead of time, and FlooP, which adds "MU-LOOPS", which the limit doesn't need to be known ahead of time. SQL has only the first kind, which is sometimes insufficient. < 1399427325 219825 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1399427345 961598 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can SQLite's WITH RECURSIVE do the latter? < 1399427378 616978 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :in postgres a recursive CTE can do arbitrary things, I think < 1399427391 280264 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I assume sqlite is implementing too < 1399427395 658163 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, although only for read-data, not for calling triggers and so on. < 1399427426 594370 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, the RECURSIVE keyword is optional and doesn't do anything; it is there for compatibility and to remind you if you need reminding.) < 1399427460 158258 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1399427575 840144 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When inserting into a view with triggers attached (it is an error to insert into a view without triggers attached), the SELECT statement is first run completely before the trigger is fired even once, so if a recursive WITH clause in the SELECT statement giving the data to insert results in an infinite number of result rows, it will run out of memory before the trigger is fired. < 1399427662 707454 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written an extension to add new syntax such as CREATE FUNCTION, CREATE MACRO, CREATE NAMESPACE, CREATE COLLATION, but cannot quite figure out how to add a proper syntax for traps and "mu-loops" which are usable inside of trigger programs. < 1399427897 641645 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1399428005 473242 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1399429872 700853 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399430718 30329 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( how much of the web runs on JSONP? < 1399430928 302350 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of it < 1399430980 424488 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I refuse. I'd rather use an invisible iframe if it comes down to it. Which it is. < 1399431127 797757 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo will die on this hill < 1399432579 71680 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1399432679 321301 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1399432733 337791 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1399433036 707441 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1399433475 232102 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399433957 362611 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1399435637 739611 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399435638 27615 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1399435813 445568 :tertu3!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399436007 23244 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1399436182 70990 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EsoAPI14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39467&oldid=31127 5* 03Sprocklem 5* (+13) 10 < 1399436337 660411 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EsoAPI14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39468&oldid=39467 5* 03Sprocklem 5* (-13) 10Undo revision 39467 by [[Special:Contributions/Sprocklem|Sprocklem]] ([[User talk:Sprocklem|talk]]) < 1399436349 653202 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1399436367 692486 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1399436711 710013 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399436909 473956 :tertu3!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1399437017 517369 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1399437221 637263 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1399437244 417348 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1399437779 684815 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399437802 106941 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1399437925 421622 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1399439189 531278 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1399439408 674843 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1399439499 646180 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1399440029 134836 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1399440207 580584 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1399440220 385922 :password2!~password@197.78.136.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399440262 473787 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1399441008 700344 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1399441171 9974 :jhj1!jhj@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:3efa QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1399441283 588701 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qcrezodwioxitvfy QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1399441329 715671 :cel_reloaded!~cliberal@80.215.210.157 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399441338 476405 :cel_reloaded!~cliberal@80.215.210.157 QUIT :Client Quit < 1399441370 387704 :cel_reloaded!~cliberal@80.215.210.157 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399441679 553604 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/Akc6r.gif < 1399441998 362588 :jhj1!jhj@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:3efa JOIN :#esoteric < 1399443330 576616 :cel_reloaded!~cliberal@80.215.210.157 QUIT :Quit: cel_reloaded < 1399444025 547382 :MoALTz__!~no@user-5-173-55-113.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: bbl < 1399444027 263675 :cel_reloaded!~cliberal@80.215.178.96 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399444857 108775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1399445710 996544 :cel_reloaded!~cliberal@80.215.178.96 QUIT :Quit: cel_reloaded < 1399446235 182425 :cel_reloaded!~cliberal@80.215.178.96 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399446274 968468 :cel_reloaded!~cliberal@80.215.178.96 QUIT :Client Quit < 1399446717 872876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://assbaka.tumblr.com/post/84284936715/a-leucistic-red-winged-blackbird < 1399446782 159528 :cel_reloaded!~cliberal@80.215.178.96 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399447346 586586 :cel_reloaded!~cliberal@80.215.178.96 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1399447559 724085 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399447707 729359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone really wants us to be artists https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Esoteric_programming_language&curid=53398&diff=607370289&oldid=605551525 < 1399447724 334618 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARE WE NOT < 1399447769 1948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes, but that section still makes me slightly embarassed. < 1399447781 414300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose it will pass. < 1399447826 187622 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That guy will discover some new hip thing to brag about < 1399447834 391176 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he will forget all about esolangs < 1399447846 511169 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He will take up glassblowing < 1399447851 652081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but then he'll have to make a new nick! < 1399447858 68023 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: re: theenemysgate.ca I like that idea < 1399447870 468960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: wat < 1399447883 172180 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember what that was < 1399447910 862721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: fix HackEgo's log access please ;_; < 1399448034 326879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: are you sure i'm the right person, i vaguely remember that domain name but it's not in my browser log afaict... < 1399448040 57382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the cited pressey article is better than the entire section, of course < 1399448113 273830 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I think that could have been ion < 1399448176 223122 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or another finn? < 1399448194 657403 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not me. < 1399448247 430366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might help if coppro quoted people properly twh hth < 1399448321 630886 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1399448828 558133 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1399449001 671421 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan asked 1d 21h 54m 48s ago: I should register theenemysgate.ca and point it to an IP address that doesn't have a server <-- what about a server that responds to pings, but _nothing_ else twh < 1399449024 6669 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should just ignore messages matching ^<.oerjan>.*h$ < 1399449110 165369 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thinking < 1399449136 960896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY ;_; < 1399449173 283633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i blame the mind control rays for wiping my memory hth < 1399449209 630690 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait does that mean coppro cannot see this twh < 1399449383 370722 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399451199 402206 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1399451218 435214 :Patashu_!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1399451218 789071 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1399451731 465609 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1399452214 740945 :password2!~password@197.78.136.149 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1399452564 589387 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1399452571 779212 :skarn!skarn@binary.firrre.com QUIT :Changing host < 1399452571 926529 :skarn!skarn@unaffiliated/skarn JOIN :#esoteric < 1399455107 952165 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399457132 759048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t replicateM < 1399457133 715205 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monad m => Int -> m a -> m [a] < 1399457252 361923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> replicateM 2 [True,False] < 1399457253 837712 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[True,True],[True,False],[False,True],[False,False]] < 1399458244 512196 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1399458404 85038 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1399458418 45064 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is true/false guaranteed to correspond to 1/0 in C? < 1399458463 59197 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just "nonzero"/0? < 1399458657 924534 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle hFlush < 1399458658 540239 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :System.IO hFlush :: Handle -> IO () < 1399458658 686701 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC.IO.Handle hFlush :: Handle -> IO () < 1399458658 686779 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC.IO.Handle hFlushAll :: Handle -> IO () < 1399458781 948368 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Each of the operators yields 1 if the specified relation is true and 0 if it is false" okay < 1399458857 611837 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Yes. ;) < 1399458876 757823 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1399458900 534603 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhi^: huh, I didn't know you were in here < 1399458931 663160 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Someone must have edited my auto-join list! < 1399458944 348655 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Seriously, I joined ~2 weeks ago, I think. < 1399458971 205447 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha < 1399458999 327539 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is convinced all channels he's in on freenode will eventually converge < 1399459037 895018 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly's law of IRC. < 1399459056 60352 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, does that apply to channels you aren't in? < 1399459147 737008 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure, possibly < 1399459197 38231 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although yes, I think the only channel I'm in that doesn't have people I'm not in other channels with is #dwarffortress < 1399459343 673337 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, you can draw a sort of graph of channels I'm in and there are other people in multiple channels I'm in < 1399459357 432555 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's the only disconnected one < 1399459564 668070 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but are there isolated clusters? < 1399459639 606228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to remember if that rail compiler guy has been on the channel. < 1399459745 335583 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine if we had, like, a way to search the channel logs... < 1399459787 31521 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-17-246.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1399459859 647128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: hm have you been away for a while? < 1399459884 107888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my memory is not working any more and it's all Gregor's fault < 1399459984 873515 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/*log* < 1399459985 628309 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/anonlog \ bin/etymology \ bin/log \ bin/logurl \ bin/pastalog \ bin/pastelog \ bin/pastelogs \ bin/pastlog \ bin/randomanonlog \ bin/searchlog < 1399460023 289167 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste bin/etymology < 1399460024 730683 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/etymology < 1399460047 285545 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, etymonline < 1399460216 848186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: bin/ is not where the problem resides hth < 1399460225 832753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log whereami < 1399460226 440421 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/log: 2: cd: can't cd to /var/irclogs/_esoteric \ grep: ????-??-??.txt: No such file or directory < 1399460390 476049 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1399460403 308180 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just curious roughly how many log-related commands we have that broke because of it < 1399462241 529471 :nucular!~MOO@p4FF91404.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1399462241 852047 :nucular!~MOO@p4FF91404.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Changing host < 1399462241 999190 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1399462260 905052 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1399462300 745435 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~stud-heco@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe JOIN :#esoteric < 1399462721 219061 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~stud-heco@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1399462742 798392 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whoami < 1399462743 358145 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoami: cannot find name for user ID 5000 < 1399462749 685713 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1399462769 38889 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`id < 1399462769 781957 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uid=5000 gid=5000 < 1399462816 690413 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~stud-heco@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe JOIN :#esoteric < 1399463152 273360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1399463181 360818 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1399463388 798083 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1399463810 641130 :cel_reloaded!~cliberal@80.215.210.19 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399463828 112899 :cel_reloaded!~cliberal@80.215.210.19 PART :#esoteric < 1399464029 108103 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1399464690 713542 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1399466426 555619 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-186-068.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`id -Z < 1399466427 113645 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :id: --context (-Z) works only on an SELinux-enabled kernel < 1399466952 281996 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-17-246.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1399466987 916912 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1399468382 407543 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1399468572 860352 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vi Hart on Net neutrality http://youtu.be/NAxMyTwmu_M < 1399471244 913587 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The person in the next row spent most of the plenary playing 2048 on her phone. < 1399471256 164006 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such disrespect. < 1399471304 639417 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neutral to the talk < 1399471355 420510 :Patashu_!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1399472308 762113 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: did they win? < 1399473493 940703 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so. I wasn't concentrating on it, though. < 1399475157 850938 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode MULTIOCULAR O < 1399475158 688930 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+A66E CYRILLIC LETTER MULTIOCULAR O \ UTF-8: ea 99 ae UTF-16BE: a66e Decimal: ꙮ \ ꙮ \ Category: Lo (Letter, Other) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) < 1399475376 820007 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Zero14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39469&oldid=39466 5* 03Tailcalled 5* (-134) 10brainderp < 1399475402 366679 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~stud-heco@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1399475693 597795 :Cineribus!9f8cfe60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.159.140.254.96 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399475708 746433 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1399475717 10593 :Cineribus!9f8cfe60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.159.140.254.96 PART :#esoteric < 1399476818 401706 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399477794 271944 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1399477920 94676 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1399478947 720032 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1399479157 371286 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.146.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399481724 320509 :MoALTz!~no@user-5-173-55-113.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1399482049 67336 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1399483015 198785 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Zero14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=39470 5* 03GreyKnight 5* (+641) 10Created page with "== clarification needed == My questions: * what constitues "correct grammar" of a pseudoprogram? * does the Halting sequence represent only grammatically-correct pseudoprogram..." < 1399485201 105837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1399486295 558238 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder < 1399486318 795206 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you write a simple exponential function if you use non-floating points functions? < 1399486367 207394 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like a fixed point real < 1399486392 758960 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1399486399 152511 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :log2 might < 1399486411 214489 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, what? < 1399486430 483488 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you can write exp for other representations. < 1399486459 565584 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Zero14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39471&oldid=39470 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+846) 10My guesses etc. < 1399486498 950004 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am just wondering if there is one that doesn't require some long ass series representation < 1399486531 520163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the series for exp is about as simple as they come. < 1399486546 945536 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, but they don't use that one! < 1399486577 975651 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :It converges way too slowly and only around a particular point < 1399486599 359918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1399486601 292928 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1399486609 429805 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's faster the closer you are to that point. < 1399486628 682106 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :The implementations I've seen usually use the Remez algorithm < 1399486629 708677 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, slereah's right, the taylor series really isn't adequate. actual implementations use other polynomials < 1399486632 705621 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1399486647 897529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1399486649 614956 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly, polynomials are pretty simple, though < 1399486658 401976 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1399486660 741670 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1399486664 150991 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am just wondering if you can < 1399486666 577717 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :GO FASTER < 1399486679 557490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just make it red hth < 1399486694 526532 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately it is not Ork arithmetics < 1399486728 60079 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use the iterated log representation and define exp as adding one to the exp tower < 1399486731 77279 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. easy < 1399486747 578315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hasn't actually played WH40K but he's visited the wiki < 1399486771 860842 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric_level-index_arithmetic it's actually used! almost sorta) < 1399486797 965331 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neat~ < 1399486824 224163 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :more practically there's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gal%27s_accurate_tables and a bunch of other shit i imagine < 1399486827 228670 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tables ftw < 1399486848 679493 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table-maker%27s_dilemma#The_table-maker.27s_dilemma on the other hand < 1399487021 944021 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: fascinating < 1399487155 974691 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also wonder if having a fraction type might be useful for precision < 1399487173 259256 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I suppose the risk is having 1000/2000 for 1/2 < 1399487204 8051 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you could reduce to common denominators if it overflows I guess < 1399487295 802998 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :scheme actually has fraction type, iirc < 1399487328 946473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think if you try to use a fraction type with series you'll overflow even the reduced term pretty fast. < 1399487346 836857 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. < 1399487362 739811 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1399487382 17744 :MoALTz_!~no@user-5-173-55-113.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1399487392 95553 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do any languages use some totally symbolic representations for math? < 1399487397 478677 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Outside of Mathematica, I guess < 1399487401 854387 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the fraction type is stored as 2xbigint < 1399487410 271780 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :most lisps have a rational type, yes < 1399487411 214172 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, *2 bigints < 1399487413 859109 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's basically 2 bigints < 1399487417 181113 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like keep exp(x) as e^x < 1399487422 325156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: then you'll eventually run out of memory. < 1399487424 145730 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least for the duration of the computation < 1399487437 686132 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then apply arithmetic rules to it < 1399487439 610758 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it reduces fractions so there's no risk s mentioned < 1399487449 706641 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: yeah, sure. < 1399487457 778704 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1399487461 748263 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's one http://www.haible.de/bruno/MichaelStoll/reals.html < 1399487464 798439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that if you add n fractions with relatively prime denominators, the new denominator is the product of all of them... < 1399487478 427086 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1399487498 415413 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i suppose haskell CReal or whatever does that too < 1399487505 669727 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan : but is that different from fixed point reals < 1399487515 805466 :MoALTz!~no@user-5-173-55-113.play-internet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1399487539 51963 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: well fixed point reals will lose precision instead... < 1399487540 295180 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, for totally different ways to compute exp, you could simulate the ODE for a while, that would be fun and implausible < 1399487565 994472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although not as much for addition i guess < 1399487572 374149 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for different representation you could use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler%27s_continued_fraction_formula#The_exponential_function ~ < 1399487609 630580 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many ridiculous possibilities. < 1399487613 323904 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knooow < 1399487614 248051 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1399487642 245174 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Markov did a neat little paper on ways to represent computable real numbers < 1399487673 220723 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :markov the younger, or what < 1399487674 61054 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :He did it as three µ-recursive functions, f(x) - g(x) / h(x) < 1399487707 206362 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right markov the younger worked in computability, i totally forgot < 1399487766 540659 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and schonhage, i.e. /that/ schonhage, does stuff with complexity of analytics http://www.iai.uni-bonn.de/~schoe/topics.html < 1399487771 360364 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(4) < 1399487790 616579 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a usual positional representation, of course < 1399487832 187488 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how matrix multiplication has some very "fast" algorithms < 1399487843 469786 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"so fast" < 1399487848 616335 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they are so ridiculously overcharged with calculations that they are basically never useful < 1399487888 407922 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, schonhage multiplication (of scalars, not matrices) /is/ actually practical for some numbers < 1399487913 266685 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for when you have, like, numbers that are 3 KB long, but that's not too bad :V < 1399487937 331985 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :How often do you have numbers 3 kB long < 1399487942 189323 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Zero14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39472&oldid=39471 5* 03Tailcalled 5* (+556) 10/* clarification needed */ < 1399487959 846926 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :me? never. but it's in GMP!! < 1399487971 410606 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's like < 1399487975 409670 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 10^924 < 1399487976 885170 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000... < 1399487977 985276 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :As an INTEGER < 1399487980 881304 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow why did i think k was capitalized... < 1399487990 988016 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kiloBikes < 1399487995 165609 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Applications of the Schönhage–Strassen algorithm include mathematical empiricism, such as the Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search and computing approximations of π, as well as practical applications such as Kronecker substitution, in which multiplication of polynomials with integer coefficients can be efficiently reduced to large integer multiplication" < 1399488031 267429 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematical empiricism is so great. the polynomials for bifurcation constants own < 1399488031 485487 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the fast matrix multiplication is useful if the matrix is a few thousand entries wide < 1399488043 549269 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which happens a fair bit! < 1399488054 84952 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i work with big matrices at work. linear algebra's too useful. < 1399488458 268876 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1399488678 793095 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1399488682 385059 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about < 1399488690 289135 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, nothing < 1399488693 87764 :Slereah!~jackal@bau91-h01-176-189-82-82.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a good idea < 1399489070 155246 :password2!~password@197.78.190.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399489792 92030 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1399489818 352373 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1399489979 169632 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1399489989 783170 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1399490081 397484 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1399490186 54188 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/Akc6r.gif < 1399490209 705459 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1399490411 363735 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1399490516 428193 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1399491373 370177 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://whitneymusicbox.org/index.php?var=v0 < 1399491502 951536 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fxerzzhzkdzqaybe JOIN :#esoteric < 1399491993 620060 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: The situation where you can end up with faster matrix exponentiation than multiplication < 1399492043 378897 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yawn* < 1399492857 153563 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts a cookie in Taneb's yawn < 1399492975 491688 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1399493062 825816 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :eat the cookie, Taneb, eat it < 1399493086 822998 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it poisoned? < 1399493109 149928 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just the usual harmless but annoying tracking device? < 1399493555 898149 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has chocolate in it < 1399493602 54052 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesn't really answer the question < 1399493651 870907 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mines himself some paranoiacoins. < 1399493685 453655 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1399493686 984087 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​060x3coin 13djtcoin 04bagdalcoin 07bubnccoin 08wiecoin 09hevecoin 02brzelcoin 06ihaxcoin 13mesheencoin 04minicoin 07>coin 08cheminicoin 09prolamcoin 02carumcoin 06zetarcoin 13nehuntumcoin 04nuishcoin 07siminingcoin 08msgcoin 09brocoin < 1399493700 379167 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>coin < 1399493708 997987 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :zetarcoin is almost metarcoin < 1399494099 698875 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihaxcoin < 1399494170 407261 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cookiecoin. < 1399494195 644808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There seemed to be no traps at that Google recruiting event I talked about previously. < 1399494215 698081 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There seemed to be no recruiting to speak of going on either, on the other hand. < 1399494349 370831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: are you sure you're not still there, inside a virtual reality room < 1399494383 622106 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they're concentrating that more on their stand at the conference, but it makes me wonder if the event had much of a purpose. Though I guess purely by accident there must've been a couple recruiting-related Googler/non-Googler interactions. < 1399494400 606226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure of that, but at least the view was nice. < 1399494415 461750 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :overt recruitment might trigger defensive responses < 1399494450 823366 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, so they're just being sneaky and underhanded. < 1399494482 909030 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The stuffed droids looked sympathetic, I give them that. < 1399494494 950473 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Green and furry.) < 1399494517 166306 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: no parachute required? < 1399494540 646337 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I recall you were making plans for an emergency exit < 1399494549 496135 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I just took the elevator down. Assuming I ever left. (Cf. oerjan) < 1399494552 775343 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or people made them for you, my memory is hazy on that point :) < 1399494558 726690 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter, I think. < 1399494586 906909 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar COIN < 1399494590 748372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did speak to two Google people, but of quite inconsequential topics. < 1399494642 281235 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: you'll have to wait for metasepia and/or boily < 1399494759 626910 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You entered "COIN" < 1399494760 747885 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, either there are no data available for your request or you did not enter any valid ICAO airport abbreviations < 1399494775 983858 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too bad < 1399494808 265126 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :COIN is the name of the "centre of excellence" (a funding-related construct) I worked for, or possibly still do. < 1399494837 325152 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an acronym (or at least approximately), but I forget what it stands for. < 1399494844 471824 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The word "inverse" was in there somewhere. < 1399494859 948058 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :centre of inverse non-excellence? < 1399494893 28776 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Finnish Centre of Excellence in Computational Inference Research (COIN) --" < 1399494904 596807 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :COmputational INference, I guess. < 1399494910 601948 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess too < 1399494923 806630 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mputation and co-mputation. < 1399494932 792446 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, Interferences Research < 1399494962 924190 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I see it didn't even have "inverse" in the name. < 1399495006 115149 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1399495111 649903 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhh. The "Centre of Excellence in Inverse Problems" is a separate CoE, and it doesn't have an acronym. V. confusing. < 1399495168 212172 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cabal Of Interfering Numismatists < 1399495168 397477 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :INPR probably sounded too silly. < 1399495194 130927 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd think it was a myers-briggs classification. < 1399495222 555925 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a valid one? I always forget the letters. < 1399495248 985135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, there is no R and the P goes last. < 1399495259 258975 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of them should be T/F, I guess. < 1399495322 764419 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1399495431 244292 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Introvert-intuitive-programmed-random, perhaps. < 1399495495 183423 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird: when someone mentions a number of big names in your field and they are Mystic Amazing Mathematician #1, Mystic Amazing Mathematician #2, and the guy I took a course from last year < 1399496200 508713 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: has your guy ever been seen together with Mystic Amazing Mathematician #3 ? < 1399496210 462137 :nycs!~nycs@ip-64-32-224-203.nyc.megapath.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1399496282 107522 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm pretty sure it's his secret identity < 1399496312 820522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1399496358 220808 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1399496638 975056 :realzies!~pinky@pool-74-108-116-26.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1399496639 166540 :realzies!~pinky@pool-74-108-116-26.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Changing host < 1399496639 314807 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1399496745 123209 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1399496824 209847 :realz!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1399496827 239238 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1399496919 420904 :nycs!~nycs@ip-64-32-224-203.nyc.megapath.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1399497243 587543 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, can any of you folks (no need for more than one or two answers) DNS-resolve zem.fi? It works from my university shell account, but not from this hotel, nor via Google's 8.8.8.8, yet doing it with dig manually (@a.fi zem.fi ns and so on) seems just fine. < 1399497267 879485 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I did something wrong w.r.t. DNSSEC key expiration. < 1399497271 802042 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can even see your ltree. < 1399497281 888896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :164.138.29.87 via my router < 1399497285 329232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing via 8.8.8.8 < 1399497310 178906 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I read from somewhere that 8.8.8.8 does DNSSEC these days. < 1399497337 399031 :password2!~password@197.78.190.121 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1399497435 807821 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yes, those RRSIGs have expiration times today. I think I tried to tell them not to do that. < 1399497459 917210 :realz!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Quit: realz < 1399497718 299696 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1399497998 750855 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@37.152.203.231 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1399498367 424351 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Changing host < 1399498367 571411 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1399498394 325969 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PART :#esoteric < 1399498864 669604 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Quit: Excess Food < 1399498994 827330 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1399499163 676539 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1399499456 942806 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1399499660 354947 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399499694 249207 :Patashu_!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1399499694 449732 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1399500207 796210 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/Akc6r.gif < 1399500211 319162 :augur!~augur@50.246.71.61 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399500229 736073 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1399500633 393566 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1399500646 62679 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1399500665 417622 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1399500672 710062 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1399500710 749897 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1399500808 998618 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.176.146.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399500989 456138 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.146.209 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1399501070 450486 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1399501085 23695 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1399501176 765016 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1399501431 773401 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1399501626 433292 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399501651 345371 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1399502198 75163 :augur!~augur@50.246.71.61 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1399503094 771425 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1399503183 881918 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1399503305 34571 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1399503706 37615 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1399504674 808940 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1399504833 594378 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1399505566 79247 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1399506385 963826 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.176.146.209 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1399506833 23568 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1399506861 712464 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric