00:00:18 <boily> good world cup morning.
00:01:55 <Sgeo> http://tagpro-origin.koalabeast.com/sounds/levelmusic1.mp3
00:01:58 <Sgeo> I love this music
00:03:06 <boily> have anyone watched the Italy England match?
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01:48:46 <zzo38> Do you know what the "Wxx" command means in FastTracker? (Wikipedia says it is a "custom sync event", but doesn't describe what that means. OpenMPT documentation does not mention it at all.)
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02:17:22 <FreeFull> zzo38: It'd be something that is used by the playback routine rather than being audible
02:17:52 <FreeFull> Could be used to sync graphics to the music, for example
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02:45:02 <zzo38> FreeFull: I thought probably it does something like that, but could find no documentation.
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03:22:47 <Sgeo> Can someone wake me up when NodeJS 0.12 gets released? Thanks
03:24:53 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: nodejslist: not found
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03:28:46 <zzo38> Sgeo: How do you want to be notified? Perhaps go on their IRC channel and get notified when the message about it is released?
03:28:56 <zzo38> I don't know when NodeJS 0.12 gets released.
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04:13:01 <zzo38> Could UNIMOD format be extended to allow samples to be OPL2 patches?
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05:04:29 <myname> is there some kind of fancy debugger for haskell? like "whenever you call that function, show me its input"?
05:06:34 <Bike> @google Debug.Trace
05:06:35 <lambdabot> http://www.haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/libraries/base/Debug-Trace.html
05:07:53 <Sgeo> Postmasters are actual real world entities, and not just used with email?
05:08:40 <Bike> sgeo you're american right. have you ever been west of the mississippi
05:09:06 <Bike> half of everything here is named by some postmaster's whim
05:09:30 <Bike> like, i lived near a town called Moscow, and nobody knows why it's called that because the postmaster was just like "moscow" and that was that
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05:21:37 <myname> that sounds like an awesome job
05:23:53 <Bike> well you only get to do that part once.
05:24:12 <myname> you may just change cities after you name them
05:47:15 <Sgeo> Apparently some people hate Ari Ne'eman
05:50:09 <Sgeo> http://arineeman.blogspot.com/ (note: blog seems to be heavily pseudoscientific)
05:50:48 <Sgeo> "Those of us experienced at curing autism know that all of these behaviors can be eliminated by removing the mercury from the brain that caused the brain to malfunction and produce these behaviors. Removing that mercury from the brain is the best way to eliminate the behavior and end the risk of children being harmed while in restraints."
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05:54:30 <Sgeo> This person seems to believe that Ari Ne'eman is an evil person preventing autistic people from being cured
05:55:15 <Bike> I wonder if there are actually higher rates of autism in places like Minamata.
05:56:54 <Bike> maybe they're too busy with the psychosis and birth defects to care, though
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06:08:07 <kyhwana> Sgeo: why, you stop vaccinating people! duh. (lol mercury hasn't been used in vaccines for ages, etcetc).
06:08:30 <kyhwana> Of course, apparently the seafood/fish supply is racking up loads of mercury these days
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06:53:28 <Sgeo> Oh hey it is about vaccines
06:53:44 <Sgeo> "Why do these psychopaths campaign against helping these children? It's simple. When we cure these children by removing mercury from their brains that was put there via vaccines, it proves that the vaccines caused the brain damage. This reflects poorly on our corrupt medical industry and our corrupt Congress who was bribed to ignore it. So, they hire liars like Ari Ne'eman and his pack of brainwashed idiots who claim they have autism and
06:53:44 <Sgeo> want respect instead of a cure. They present positive language about helping themselves and their own autism but they are NOT autistic at all. "
06:55:15 <Sgeo> Hmm. Suppose it is in fact mercury damage (BS) and suppose they're able to remove it (probably chelation therapy, which is BS in an autism context). How does that prove that it's the vaccines that caused the mercury, if, e.g., fish have it these days
07:04:15 <diginet> Sgeo: abandon hope, all ye who enter here
07:05:05 <Taneb> I am feeling somewhat down.
07:07:55 <Taneb> Partially because I am out of milk
07:08:07 <Taneb> But mostly the not-too-uncommon feeling like a failure.
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11:19:29 <FreeFull> https://github.com/alankila/Junk/tree/master/wav2png
11:19:40 <FreeFull> Apparently using PNG to compress audio is better than FLAC
11:22:41 <Taneb> Now I am curious how JPEG would do
11:28:20 <Taneb> AND I AM INSUFFICIENTLY KNOWLEDGEABLE TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THIS CURIOSITY
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12:12:26 <FreeFull> Taneb: JPEG would be lossy, of course
12:12:35 <FreeFull> I suspect you'd get good compression but bad quality
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12:48:15 <Taneb> Phantom__Hoover, some of my best friends are in #archlinux!
12:50:15 <Taneb> Apparently they aren't
12:52:01 <FireFly> Yeah, I stopped idling there because it was too toxic for my taste
12:52:22 <boily> archlinux, toxic? since when? :P
12:52:47 <FireFly> Well I dunno, I didn't like the channel very much
12:54:09 <olsner> Phantom__Hoover: what sort of assholes?
12:54:27 <Taneb> olsner, ones you don't want to fuck with
12:55:16 <Phantom__Hoover> the kind of assholes who will remember bullshit reasons to mock you just to bring them up next time you go in for support
12:55:50 <Taneb> Phantom__Hoover, does Warwick have much of a CS society?
12:56:21 <Phantom__Hoover> probably? i've never been involved with them so i don't know
12:56:41 <Phantom__Hoover> i have friends who have gone to lan parties and shit so i guess
12:56:58 <Taneb> We have a CS society and a separate gaming society
12:57:05 <Taneb> And then a separate again gamedev society
12:57:44 <olsner> seems like using IRC for support tends to be quite bad in various ways
12:58:01 <Taneb> I am pretty sure I am the only person who is a member of all three
12:58:28 <Phantom__Hoover> olsner, it's still much faster than the alternatives, though
12:58:58 <Taneb> ...I'm using CS to stand for "Computer Science" and not "CounterStrike", btw
13:00:24 <Taneb> I am heading out now, bye!
13:03:20 <impomatic> Phantom__Hoover: is that Warwick, UK?
13:07:29 <Phantom__Hoover> the town of warwick is several miles away and has ~nothing to do with the university
13:10:44 <impomatic> My gf wants to visit the castle there. Hopefully I can convince her to go via Bletchley Park or the computer museum in Leicester.
13:12:30 * impomatic might drop by #archlinux especially to ask really dumb questions :-)
13:20:07 <impomatic> About 50 miles. Not sure how easy it would be on public transport.
13:20:37 <impomatic> The National Museum of Computing is on Bletchley Park. It has a separate entry fee though...
13:21:51 <impomatic> I also want to visit Jim Austin's Computer Collection somewhere near York http://www.computermuseum.org.uk
13:23:30 <impomatic> Looks interesting but it's by appointment only.
13:24:26 <Taneb> I think one of my friends was trying to organize an outing
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15:27:44 <fizzie> It was easy to get to Bletchley Park from London by train, at least.
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17:06:13 <Phantom__Hoover> http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/70839/how-can-you-weigh-your-own-head-in-an-accurate-way
17:07:47 <Phantom__Hoover> why use an axe when you could compute the bulk density with high-energy gamma rays!
17:08:10 <Slereah> Well I'm not made of money
17:08:45 <Slereah> You can go the Archimedes route
17:09:02 <Slereah> And then put a variety of material density with the same volume in water
17:09:12 <Slereah> Wait, no, that doesn't work
17:10:42 <Phantom__Hoover> you need the high-energy gamma rays to work out the density
17:15:01 <Bike> this is pretty good
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19:33:09 <Taneb> Taneb Fact: I have no idea if I have a bike pump
19:33:29 <Taneb> And my unicycle has a flat tyre!
19:34:27 <Quintopia> haha you can use the air pump at a gas station
19:34:46 <Taneb> Hmm, I live near a petrol station
19:38:14 <fizzie> I have dozens of photos of meerkats now. :/
19:39:07 <Taneb> fizzie, enough to advertise an insurance comparison website?
19:39:29 <fizzie> Are they used for that?
19:40:20 <Taneb> http://www.comparethemeerkat.com/
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19:43:31 <fizzie> I have 25+47, if that helps.
19:46:45 <fizzie> (Also lots of tigers and elephants, and one squirrel.)
19:56:44 <FreeFull> http://tylervigen.com/view_correlation?id=7
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20:29:03 <Sgeo> "It is likely impossible to embody an AIXI in our universe, as AIXI is uncomputable. Fortunately, AIXI has a computable approximation AIXItl, which is merely infeasible:"
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20:33:56 <Taneb> Help I've contributed to reviving a dead IRC channel
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20:35:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[BANCStar]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39843&oldid=39812 * GreyKnight * (+338) clarifying syntax
20:36:40 <Taneb> It's a channel for UK university computer science societies
20:37:30 * impomatic wishes someone would revive FIG UK
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20:39:45 <pikhq> Taneb: All about British figs.
20:40:12 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[BANCStar]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39844&oldid=39843 * GreyKnight * (+70) prettify tables a bit
20:40:22 <Taneb> I should learn Forth at some point
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21:14:26 <HackEgo> U+00B7 MIDDLE DOT \ UTF-8: c2 b7 UTF-16BE: 00b7 Decimal: · \ · \ Category: Po (Punctuation, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals)
21:22:02 <kyhwana> hrm, anyone seen that Verizon report on the stratfor hack?
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21:41:26 <Taneb> Phantom__Hoover, help there's like people from your place on IRC
21:43:20 <Taneb> Edinburgh AND Warwick University!
21:44:29 <Taneb> All of them are members of some university's CS society
21:44:42 <Taneb> Either Edinburgh Uni or Warwick University
21:46:15 <Taneb> And do you know many people who do CS at Warwick? (iirc you do maths?)
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21:54:17 <kyhwana> https://pdf.yt/d/yGrhyxVVK5yKmbcq is that verizon/stratfor report
21:58:29 <Taneb> Phantom__Hoover, it appears they do not
22:01:30 <Taneb> Phantom__Hoover, yes, these Warwick chaps appear not to know you
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22:28:08 <HackEgo> #!/usr/bin/env python \ # -*- encoding: utf-8 -*- \ import re \ import sys, os \ import unicodedata \ def l(c): m = re.match('(?:U[+])?([0-9a-f]{1,5})$', c, re.I); return unicodedata.lookup(c) if m is None else unichr(int(m.group(1),16)) \ try: \ print u''.join(map(l, sys.argv[1:])).encode('utf-8') \ except KeyError: \ os.execvp("multico
22:36:02 <int-e> because doing it nervously, erratically would be dangerous? (I have not looked)
22:37:36 <Phantom__Hoover> also the comments are even more full of assholes than usual
22:44:44 <Sgeo> What happens if the user isn't using a power strip
22:44:55 <Sgeo> And he mentions that
22:45:05 <Sgeo> ok, I should finish watching videos before commenting
22:45:44 <int-e> now do it with one of those: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuko
22:45:56 <Phantom__Hoover> i like how people in the comments are jerking off to their fantasies of blowing an old man^W^W^WTHE FORCES OF TYRANNY up when he's just as likely to electrocute himself operating the thing
22:46:30 <int-e> I think he's more careful and aware of what he's doing than you give him credit for
22:46:31 <Phantom__Hoover> wouldn't work on UK plugs either, we have insulated sleeves on the prongs
22:46:51 <Sgeo> int-e: but if it's meant to be used by general police forces, they need as much training
22:46:56 <int-e> in particular, look how carefully and tightly he holds the live plug in the first half of the video.
22:47:13 <int-e> obviously this needs special training
22:48:34 <Phantom__Hoover> but when he disconnects the line from the hotplug he isn't nearly so careful, and it's still live
22:48:35 <Sgeo> Might be possible to write software to detect that mouse thing
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22:50:10 <int-e> Sgeo: right. shut down on new USB device, unless the user has taken some action in advance.
22:50:41 <Sgeo> Was thinking 'what kind of mouse jiggles like that', but your way is probably easier and safer
22:51:14 <Sgeo> Although, what happens if you accidentally disconnect your real mouse and keyboard
22:51:32 <int-e> tough luck, you shut down, reboot, re-enter your keys
22:52:29 <Phantom__Hoover> if you're anticipating the imminent physical seizure of your computer what are you even doing fucking around with mouse detectors
22:59:42 <Taneb> Man, friendship mouse was so long ago
22:59:51 <Taneb> Phantom__Hoover, don't you remember friendship mouse?
23:07:26 <fungot> \o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/
23:07:27 <myndzi> | c.c.c | ¯|¯⌠ `\o/´ | c.c.c | `\o/´ ¯|¯⌠ | c.c.c |
23:07:27 <myndzi> |\ c.c /< /| | | /'\ c.c /`\ | |\|/| c.c |\
23:10:13 <myndzi> c.c.c c.c.c c.c.cc.c.c
23:10:28 <int-e> Phantom__Hoover: I wonder whether it's possible to get the chord connecting to the power strip go off when unplugged from the strip. (There has to be some electronic inside the 'hotplug' device anyway, because you have to check that the phases from the UPS and the power supply are synchronized. measuring power drawn from the chord doesn't seem too add much then.)
23:10:57 <int-e> Phantom__Hoover: and it would be a huge boon to safety when there's only one hot plug transfer in the whole process.
23:11:41 <elliott> unless it's musical power.
23:11:59 <Quintopia> or a segment connecting two points on a circle
23:12:16 <Taneb> http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/2011-08-10
23:14:59 <int-e> what am I looking at?
23:15:08 <Taneb> int-e, Ctrl-f for mouse
23:15:19 <Bike> this is some good stuff here
23:16:17 <Bike> who cares about mice, i'm takling intidus!
23:16:59 <Taneb> Bike, you can do that for anything itidus has ever said
23:17:59 <Quintopia> oh man, i missed the whole mouse discussion but i remember that: "<zzo38> In Hofstadter's book, Godel Escher Bach, the Lamp is made of copper, the Meta-Lamp is silver, the Meta-Meta-Lamp is gold, it does not say what the Meta-Meta-Meta-Lamp is made of, I can probably guess but what do you think?"
23:18:39 <Bike> the interesting thing is, in 2011 i was having the same stupid arguments
23:18:53 <Bike> isn't it platinum?
23:20:00 <Quintopia> taneb said platinum, Phantom__Hoover said platinum, zzo38 said roentgenium
23:20:13 <Bike> that's a good answer.
23:20:36 <Quintopia> i said the meta-meta-meta-meta-lamp was upsidaisium, but nowadays, i'd probably say gold-pressed latinum
23:21:14 <int-e> thanks so much. "AND THEN I CHECKED FOR IT" haha!
23:21:27 <Bike> huh, i didn't know copper and silver and gold were in the same group o_o
23:21:36 <oerjan> darn i was just looking up röntgenium
23:22:13 <Phantom__Hoover> i see our mouse talk also got rid of ais, another telltale sign of a classic #esoteric moment
23:22:47 <elliott> reading logs from when I was 15 is weird
23:22:57 <oerjan> did this happen before kmc arrived and started leaving
23:23:07 <Taneb> elliott, how has life carried you since?
23:23:29 <elliott> Taneb: um, there hasn't been all that much carrying, mostly I've walked places
23:23:37 <elliott> if anyone wants to carry me though I'm up for that
23:23:46 <Taneb> <Taneb> I like Unity <-- wow I've changed so much
23:23:46 <Bike> great, now i ned to know why VIIIB was three modern groups.
23:24:03 <int-e> aww. "22:39:54: <Phantom_Hoover> I caught it yesterday honestly get in the loop."
23:24:59 <Bike> HA i was older than you, and also not here
23:25:03 <oerjan> y'all kids grew up so fast
23:26:45 <elliott> Phantom__Hoover: your lines developed a really free verse style in this log towards the end
23:30:07 <int-e> it was quite an adventure, probably nice to look back after 5 years :)
23:30:46 <elliott> I believe the number you're looking for is 2014 - 2011, aka 3.
23:30:54 <Phantom__Hoover> i wonder what my family do when the cat brings mice in now
23:31:04 <elliott> I mostly feel intense embarrassment looking back three years :p
23:31:37 <Bike> compelling new research suggests that elliott was at some point a kid; researchers disturbed and revolted
23:31:39 <Taneb> Phantom__Hoover, do you remember whether it was USB or PS/2?
23:31:58 <FireFly> elliott: I know exactly what you mean
23:32:19 <elliott> Bike: I still am, by many people's definition!
23:32:23 <Sgeo> Maybe I should read about Dialyzer. iiuc, it's a type system that instead of rejecting bad programs and some good ones, only ever rejects bad programs at the cost of letting more bad programs through
23:32:38 <Bike> elliott: compelling new research suggests that the present constitutes a point!!
23:32:44 <Taneb> ...I have just realised, I have no idea what sort of life any of you lead
23:32:51 <elliott> Bike: compelling new research suggests that you smell.
23:32:55 <Bike> Taneb: nonstop boozing
23:33:03 <Taneb> If I saw any of you in the street I would not recognize any of you
23:33:13 <Bike> elliott: how did you know? uncanny!
23:33:24 <Phantom__Hoover> to be fair we could only recognise you if you had a yorkshire pudding in your mouth
23:33:39 <Sgeo> "Dialyzer bases its analysis on the concept of success typings which allows for sound warnings (no false positives)."
23:34:13 <Bike> http://37.media.tumblr.com/770145c0e28dd57736f7c011d5bc8815/tumblr_n23an1c9M51r7tprao1_500.jpg here, taneb, have a reference photograph. surprising??
23:35:54 <Taneb> Bike, whoa, you are not a bike
23:36:13 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[BANCStar]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39845&oldid=39844 * Zzo38 * (+54)
23:36:22 <Sgeo> I can only assume that gas masks are a kind of bike.
23:36:25 <Bike> i'm actually just a wereman
23:37:33 <nooodl> Bike: every man is a wereman http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/were-#English
23:38:12 <Bike> >back-formation
23:38:49 <elliott> oerjan: can I kick anyone who writes a green line starting with a >?
23:39:08 <Bike> as if you need permission to kick me <3
23:39:13 <oerjan> elliott: you certainly may.
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23:39:28 <oerjan> this is the kind of thing that needs nipping of buds
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23:39:48 <elliott> "nipping of buds" sounds kinda nsfw.
23:40:04 <oerjan> it was kinda intended to.
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23:43:10 * oerjan doesn't quite dare to add budding nipples to the topic.
23:52:07 <int-e> wise words. "the internet is not an air-tight bastion of complete, unwavering good advice"
23:52:32 <elliott> oerjan: so you're saying budding nipples are off-topic?
23:52:46 <elliott> I thought the only thing that was off-topic was esoteric programming languages.
23:53:13 <oerjan> int-e: indeed, there is a severe leakage of hot air involved
23:53:40 <oerjan> elliott: it's not off-topic for the stupidly brave hth
23:53:56 <zzo38> Esoteric programming languages is not off-topic, it is just that it isn't so often on-topic. Sometimes there is stuff to write about it, too.
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