#include  #include  #include  #include  using namespace std;  const int SIZE ..."
< 1405092074 230709 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Goldfish14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40128&oldid=40068 5* 03GermanyBoy 5* (+81) 10/* See also */ added implementation
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< 1405095156 604571 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SELECT.14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40129&oldid=39240 5* 03Quintopia 5* (-7) 10Makes no sense to put the derivation of -1 after the first place it is used (in the derivation of e)
< 1405095646 456396 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a difference between "the set of numbers output by an elementary function evaluated at 2" and "the set of computable numbers"?
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< 1405096331 212732 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the internet is giving me any examples of "non-elementary computable numbers"
< 1405096334 318755 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :halp
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< 1405097312 684186 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/taworvor/ :P
< 1405097480 96034 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: there are very likely much more computable numbers than elementary ones, though it's hard to prove that any particular number is computable but not elementary
< 1405097518 869364 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i figured someone would have constructed one
< 1405097530 607743 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: constructing one is easy, proving is hard
< 1405097535 648368 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :are elementary numbers all primitive recursive?
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< 1405097566 124311 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could hope that something like SUM_k 2**(-2**(2**(2**(2**k)))) is non-elementary, but I don't think you can prove it
< 1405097580 386190 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, say, riemann_zeta(2)
< 1405097586 745452 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait
< 1405097590 640045 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean riemann_zeta(3)
< 1405097592 539158 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously
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< 1405098682 7994 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this time Strings are really just lists
< 1405098692 529222 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :not some seperate datatype that required lots of hackery to make shit work
< 1405098722 106277 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think some burlesque functions working on lists just converted strings into a list of characters
< 1405098734 699548 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then make a hacky check if the resulting list starts with a character
< 1405098738 200670 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, convert back to string
< 1405098755 976296 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because mapping over a list of characters not necessarily leads to a list of characters)
< 1405098778 499953 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you're currently out of luck if you don't want a string as a result but your first element happens to be a character :D
< 1405098796 336582 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nobody noticed this so far on code golf :D
< 1405099208 618712 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also two version of concat for this
< 1405099212 800186 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least two versions :)
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< 1405099355 808033 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "abc""def"mo
< 1405099356 111634 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@2a02:1205:c695:2450:ad2d:b0f1:fcf8:73a7 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat!
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< 1405099393 432435 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well...
< 1405099463 616229 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "abc""def"moL[
< 1405099463 894279 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@2a02:1205:c695:2450:ad2d:b0f1:fcf8:73a7 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat!
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< 1405099493 771318 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kinda cool
< 1405099501 929077 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it reverses the second argument
< 1405099511 993942 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :creates a list of infinite copies of that
< 1405099518 216213 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and prefixes it with numbers from 1..infty
< 1405099526 986517 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq """def"mo5.+
< 1405099527 359099 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@2a02:1205:c695:2450:ad2d:b0f1:fcf8:73a7 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat!
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< 1405099542 327318 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the timeout would allow it :(
< 1405099546 917997 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq """def"mo2.+
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< 1405100937 28737 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also... I'm now a BSc.
< 1405100954 623160 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1405100960 952647 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :congrats
< 1405100962 503023 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a 5.3 average (6.0 is maximum)
< 1405100966 425360 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just completed the nintendo gallery
< 1405100972 566111 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're roughly equal achievements :P
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< 1405101943 180509 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {"abc" "def"}{"ghj" "klm"}?*
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< 1405102333 655297 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the nintendo gallery
< 1405103107 32103 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/FMNSSun/Taworvor <- and the repo is online
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< 1405107092 209865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: assuming you mean the ELEMENTARY complexity class, my hunch is for something like a real number encoding the diagonalization of all ELEMENTARY algorithms
< 1405107130 57406 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: define ELEMENTARY?
< 1405107131 432664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, or even just the result of them
< 1405107146 103435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELEMENTARY
< 1405107189 474531 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you instead mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_function, then there are no such numbers; f(x) = a is an elementary function for every number a
< 1405107270 982477 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, i meant the set of numbers given by compositions of computable elementary functions evaluated at 2.
< 1405107279 714304 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ELEMENTARY looks different
< 1405107299 871286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in that case f(x) = a is still elementary, and computable if a is.
< 1405107308 403031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[SELECT.]] has lots of "it's" where it should have "its"
< 1405107318 147545 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: then fix it
< 1405107323 877752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1405107379 873232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or alternatively, yes, if you pay me $5 for the three minutes of work at $100/hr
< 1405107386 231315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I accept bitcoin
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< 1405107452 501233 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what i am trying to get at is the set of numbers computable by SELECT. so, i guess the problem is that SELECT. can't use constants. i think this concept is captured in the concept of "elementary number"
< 1405107494 916378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah.
< 1405107495 135562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would also throw in fixing the capitalisation of the headers for free.
< 1405107499 491027 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: its not bothering me enough to do it myself or pay anyone else ;)
< 1405107564 1854 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the root taking looks like the tricky part, how do you bound the complexity of computing those
< 1405107577 271457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: how about for $2.50?
< 1405107577 518143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_number)
< 1405107701 101298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except, SELECT. cannot take roots can it?
< 1405107718 344313 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't no
< 1405107729 295560 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, not in general
< 1405107734 263641 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: $0.3625, as per US federal minimum wage?
< 1405107759 737964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at some point giving me money has to be less fuss than having me monologue-haggle with you
< 1405107762 454894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, perhaps it cannot calculate all elementary numbers
< 1405107771 658351 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: okay, i'll pay that, minus the cost of the time it takes me to send the money, paid to me at the same wage
< 1405107781 305246 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: okay. do you have bitcoin?
< 1405107793 622998 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a few
< 1405107816 711353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's currently ~0.00056 BTC
< 1405107852 424104 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have anywhere to send
< 1405107866 852936 :pikhq!~pikhq@24.178.249.64 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have that in Doge.
< 1405107923 719980 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so what would be an example of a number it can't compute? perhaps just a random root of a random pentic equation?
< 1405107934 912106 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so how much time are you willing to invest failing to negotiate a fee for your services?
< 1405107946 826425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it is its own reward
< 1405108015 558873 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i don't have the necessary expertise to find a more elegant answer than "something something halting problem/diagonalization over the complexity class that can compute all those numbers"
< 1405108029 151546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there, edit completed, pending on payment :)
< 1405108063 505296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(do I need to edit my user page to disclose a CoI?)
< 1405108081 599947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not on esolang hth
< 1405108102 947979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we accept all paid edits.  in fact we'd _love_ it if the bancstar people did some.
< 1405108116 412879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, some that improved the article, anyway.
< 1405108165 250506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is having a hard time imagining a corporation wanting to pay for that.

< 1405108205 542272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: as in, for all i know SELECT. can't compute the roots of x^5 + x + 1 but i cannot prove it.
< 1405108227 892817 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there might be someone who can.
< 1405108351 625059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it's been a while since i checked up on bitcoin
< 1405108359 636271 :newsham_!~chat@72.235.201.146 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/900055/is-sql-or-even-tsql-turing-complete ?
< 1405108398 903528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks fairly stable
< 1405108400 546449 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :x^5+x+1 = (x^2+x+1) * (x^3-x^2+1). try again.
< 1405108418 225582 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: wait what
< 1405108436 651788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought that was the standard simplest example
< 1405108465 734281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of a primitive polynomial of fifth degree
< 1405108489 540182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also something not solvable in radicals
< 1405108490 658899 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :x^5+x^2+1 is irreducible.
< 1405108546 974999 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or x^5-x+1
< 1405108553 978311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \x -> x^5 + (x::Int) + 1 == (x^2+x+1) * (x^3-x^2+1)
< 1405108555 739839 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests.
< 1405108560 72216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking
< 1405108563 842076 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah a minus
< 1405108612 271910 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm using pari/gp for this btw. it has a neat factor() function that works for single variable polynomials with integer coefficients. (and also over GF(p), but I'm not sure about other finite fields))
< 1405108653 607996 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose i've just internalized it wrongly as "the simplest example you can think of that isn't obviously reducible, isn't."
< 1405108728 969483 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you stare at it long enough, the third root of unity "obviously" satisfies x^5+x+1 = 0.
< 1405108766 944500 :newsham_!~chat@72.235.201.146 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?let oneInt = (1 :: Int)
< 1405108769 283768 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined.
< 1405108778 583181 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SELECT.14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40130&oldid=40129 5* 03Ehird 5* (+339) 10general cleanup. I was meant to be paid for this edit.
< 1405108811 182960 :newsham_!~chat@72.235.201.146 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?let forceInt :: Int -> Int; forceInt = id
< 1405108813 45169 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined.
< 1405108874 706819 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type (`asTypeOf` oneInt)
< 1405108875 578280 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Int -> Int
< 1405108937 709689 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: don't you mean the third root of -1?
< 1405108943 362292 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :YUPLOL
< 1405108951 858891 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no.
< 1405108952 953122 :YUPLOL!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :FERILOVESTHEM
< 1405108955 750698 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1405108963 690218 :FERILOVESTHEM!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :v^
< 1405108964 939422 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i didn't stare long enough
< 1405108968 226464 :v^!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :^v
< 1405108989 271697 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: for the third root of unity, x^5 = x^2, so we get x^2+x+1.
< 1405108990 260289 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if l is the third root of unity, then l^5=l^2 right? oh
< 1405109011 880210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the third root of unity which isn't 1, naturally
< 1405109045 238723 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right.
< 1405109071 584073 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a primitive third root of unity, really.
< 1405109073 311892 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1405109083 746398 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still not seeing why x^2+x=-1 visually
< 1405109096 785560 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi boily
< 1405109108 13634 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like unibroue?
< 1405109127 92013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: 1, x and x^2 are in an equilateral triangle around zero, that's pretty visual
< 1405109127 898969 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: leave it as x^2+x+1, then it's a nicely symmetric star. (oh it also satisfies x*(x^2+x+1) = x^2+x+1)
< 1405109141 607009 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah yep that does it
< 1405109173 140453 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then, of course, you can look at (x^2+x+1)*(x-1) = x^3-1.
< 1405109183 383394 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com NICK :`^_^v
< 1405109184 457314 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's algebraic
< 1405109205 384750 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(x*(x^2+x+1) = x^2+x+1 is inbetween: multiplying by x is a rotation)
< 1405109345 854644 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: QUINTHELLOPIA! of course!
< 1405109361 181880 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this place has eau benite.
< 1405109405 825719 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the other kind of "this place"
< 1405109406 6079 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i haven't tried it
< 1405109414 706667 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :la terrible is my favorite beer ever
< 1405109430 874674 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not knowing the "eau benite" brand of beer didn't help)
< 1405109458 248044 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :unibroue is a bran
< 1405109458 956147 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :d
< 1405109465 79890 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never heard of the Eau Bénite.
< 1405109465 618055 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :eau benite is a beer
< 1405109495 700453 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy water?! strange name ... though that goes for a lot of beer brands
< 1405109509 328441 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd consider going to quebec just to visit unibroue and try everything
< 1405109523 267752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i thought it was some subtle praise of the channel
< 1405109527 199052 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should also try those from RJ, and then all the microbrasseries :D
< 1405109572 169302 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :RJ?
< 1405109573 513538 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.troududiable.com/spip.php?rubrique5 ← they make my favourites.
< 1405109582 418107 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.brasseursrj.com/
< 1405109635 781498 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from RJ, my favourite is the Coup de Grisou.
< 1405109645 88257 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :clever name
< 1405109659 183239 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :rj says the english version of their site is not available
< 1405109675 363989 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should email them "i'll translate your website for a big sample box"
< 1405109755 630964 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh :P
< 1405109783 231793 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help I'm trying to learn Erlang
< 1405109828 855214 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you should come to Montréal during the Mondial de la Bière. it has beers.
< 1405109835 150222 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that's good!
< 1405109838 766132 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would think so
< 1405109871 241287 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I'm feeling a feeling I haven't felt since I first learnt Haskell
< 1405109886 678608 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: any independent coding projects?
< 1405109932 11092 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANY VEGETALES IN THE BRAIN?
< 1405109933 848245 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: are you titillated? nonplussed? flummoxed? intrigued? chagrined? dazzled? mystified? recumbent?
< 1405109965 972504 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I haven't abandoned yet the yucca project. real life got in the way, but it's still being planned.
< 1405109978 841158 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Whoa this is a weird way of doing things but I can sort of see how it works"
< 1405109999 552088 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is real life out of the way yet?
< 1405110014 690588 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite the opposite.
< 1405110165 500930 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i ordered the holy water
< 1405110173 562666 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as good as terrible, but still delicious
< 1405110412 913950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who wants water with holes in it anyway
< 1405110419 791363 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :me
< 1405110429 276097 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :because those holes are filled with delicious CO2
< 1405110451 120538 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric
< 1405110519 942462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are not holes.  this is a hole http://what-if.xkcd.com/6/
< 1405110551 234965 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. levitating beer.
< 1405111083 932586 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@2a02:1205:c695:2450:ad2d:b0f1:fcf8:73a7 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1405111739 253738 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1405111750 30596 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1405112269 741629 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :duck.
< 1405112271 778504 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PROFOUND CHICKEN
< 1405112710 319989 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-30-175.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1405113381 457277 :Koen_!~Koen@78.245.243.132 QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?"
< 1405113576 274316 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm what happened to the brainfuck survey?
< 1405113598 461 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean is there any conclusion? Are there any consequences?
< 1405115475 240435 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Rdebath14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40131&oldid=40118 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+17) 10/* Current languages to go back to. */
< 1405116139 328644 :MoALTz_!~no@164.127.47.32 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1405116143 260426 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Spacechem Programming Language14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=40132 5* 03Jfb 5* (+324) 10Created Spacechem page
< 1405116274 108624 :MoALTz__!~no@164.127.47.32 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1405116650 28354 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42986.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1405116950 380115 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1405117488 167727 :newsham_!~chat@72.235.201.146 PRIVMSG #esoteric :go usa!  we just tracked down and arrested a domestic terror cell of mink liberators!
< 1405117537 103049 :newsham_!~chat@72.235.201.146 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i for one sleep easier at night knowing that the minkacolypse is not looming just over the horizon
< 1405117552 614274 :newsham_!~chat@72.235.201.146 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crap, wrong channel, sorry #esoteric
< 1405117638 340868 :pikhq!~pikhq@24.178.249.64 QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting
< 1405117644 720702 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1405117660 614933 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Purdy.
< 1405117674 226254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh why does the heat wave keep prolonging with each forecast
< 1405117712 879933 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, the heat wave's length doubles every 1.5 days
< 1405117720 892207 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moore's law
< 1405117724 663148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
< 1405117758 612822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it's up to monday
< 1405117803 792754 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what constitutes a heat wave in trondheim
< 1405117831 66057 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the Purely Functional Data Structures book is useful for Erlang
< 1405117834 358940 :Burton!Burton@gateway/shell/bouncerstation/x-eqobykzoiooysajn JOIN :#esoteric
< 1405117968 47657 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1405118236 379058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the forecast has all these scary 28 numbers
< 1405118303 150367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's been up to 31
< 1405118315 229673 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1405118357 15094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Argh my back
< 1405118637 526582 :vifino!~vifino@37.24.78.77 QUIT :Quit: Me sais Laptop sleepy.
< 1405119826 298229 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1405119856 205430 :vifino!~vifino@ip-37-24-78-77.unitymediagroup.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1405121961 750465 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1405122592 990041 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :^3
< 1405122598 521785 :^3!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :^4
< 1405122604 589209 :^4!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :^5
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< 1405122994 875167 :vifino!~vifino@ip-37-24-78-77.unitymediagroup.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slaps ^v 

< 1405123015 263719 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vifino, u wana go u little shit
< 1405123029 414585 :vifino!~vifino@ip-37-24-78-77.unitymediagroup.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slaps ^v in da face

< 1405123049 92048 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slaps the fuq out of vifino

< 1405123051 266147 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION misses

< 1405123053 646437 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :f
< 1405123058 200645 :vifino!~vifino@ip-37-24-78-77.unitymediagroup.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nailed it.
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< 1405123108 683824 :vifino!~vifino@ip-37-24-78-77.unitymediagroup.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives ^v a gummy bear