< 1413331244 836340 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.69.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is chicken fởn? < 1413331261 429881 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.69.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool < 1413331261 583395 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1413331274 215816 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I beg to differ. < 1413331331 627110 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't it be phởn? :3 < 1413331352 569892 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chicken is chicken. it is everything. to deny it is to distance oneself from the true path. without denial, one can't find the Chicken. < 1413331370 433810 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? phở < 1413331371 132473 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phở là một món ăn truyền thống của Việt Nam, cũng có thể xem là một trong những món ăn đặc trưng nhất cho ẩm thực Việt Nam. < 1413331391 590312 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, having a menu bar at the top means tabbed browsers don't have infinitely high tabs < 1413331396 174005 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I would hate that < 1413331399 55356 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.69.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :digital pimp, hard at work < 1413331447 945930 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo : 100 points to anyone who can pronounce that :D < 1413331483 728636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: afaik only chrome does < 1413331485 675367 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to pronounce a few vietnamese words. I abysmally can't. < 1413331485 883146 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what!! that's barely an update < 1413331488 694988 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1413331488 848721 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.69.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fo lay mut man... < 1413331489 616231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even then I think it doesn't on linux < 1413331497 509267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :other browsers have stuff closer to the top < 1413331499 620427 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.69.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's 15 points < 1413331529 917244 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Firefox does on Windows these days < 1413331538 527411 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're trying to copy the Chrome chrome it seems < 1413331549 416299 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the click target actually reach the very top pixel of the screen? < 1413331559 854231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway really you have to manoeuvre horizontally to pick a tab anyway... < 1413331580 488490 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: btw, do you happen to be a vietnamese soup connoisseur? < 1413331585 814902 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: seems so (re click target reaching top of screen) < 1413331614 332325 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how many people on Mac realize closing window doesn't close application < 1413331629 531857 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1413331636 588790 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know we've had product people at the company get confused by that, thinking they restarted the browser when they didn't < 1413331695 329587 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily : well, I like scarfing it down yes :D < 1413331723 704373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it's rather obvious when the app isn't pinned to the dock < 1413331747 186216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, some (even apple) apps do close when you close the window, and it's not always obvious why one would follow one behaviour :/ < 1413331765 861184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the idea is meant to be that it doesn't matter whether the application has any windows open or not < 1413331771 750175 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem being that this is a false statement < 1413331780 467149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Did you see the paper I linked to above? < 1413331788 139149 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows 8 Metro has exactly the same issue < 1413331828 616467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: OS X explicitly has a concept of "open but with no windows", unlike Windows < 1413331831 610819 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily : now you're making me want it x_x < 1413331834 86996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just weakened it recently < 1413331840 985983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't recall. < 1413331852 514622 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Windows has a state of "open but with no windows" but it's a pain to interact with < 1413331855 443645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :System Preferences and the App Store and Contacts and Notes close when you close their sole window. Maps and Reminders don't. < 1413331858 172843 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: what are your approximate coördinates? do you live in a soup-friendly city? < 1413331863 644454 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can see the process in task manager, but it's hard to do anything to it, other than kill it < 1413331873 598534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither does iBooks, despite it being basically like the App Store except for ebooks < 1413331877 431338 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Is that the new question? < 1413331878 602049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait, no, iBooks does < 1413331887 388072 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do you know about the X -o F(X) notion of derivative? < 1413331893 405106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :err... iBooks stays open when you close its window, until you focus another app < 1413331896 437042 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :montreal < 1413331906 762559 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have multiple choices for pho :D < 1413331935 839096 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I just tried to subtly slide it into the conversation :P < 1413331955 22656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, and i don't think my brain wants to know. < 1413331955 236375 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: attends un peu, toi. viens pas me dire que tu restes à Montréal aussi. < 1413331967 513681 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ben oui < 1413331976 46043 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :j'ai comme une impression de déjà vu... < 1413332017 829808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: did you ever work out the answer to the question you were asking the questions for? < 1413332041 305614 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: >_>'... <_<... I... kinda stumbled upon the maths. < 1413332050 706193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't there an online thing to calculate it < 1413332052 670153 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but you're my only hope for tangent spaces < 1413332065 882290 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: there's an online thing for that? < 1413332073 815386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was it you were calculating again? < 1413332079 249425 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily : je sais pas si on se connait < 1413332087 477933 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the center of mass of the chännel. < 1413332125 759434 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: ça se peut. la dernière fois qu'un autre montréalais s'est enfargé dans le channel ça s'est adonné que c'était un ami à mon frère. < 1413332127 511159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://calculator.tutorvista.com/center-of-mass-calculator.html guess this doesn't really help < 1413332132 866063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: lasciate ogni speranza < 1413332136 148198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever, just pay a grad student to do it < 1413332141 878749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or don't pay them < 1413332149 466045 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know just the right grad student for the task! < 1413332155 220721 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(paying grads? since when?) < 1413332167 28612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember we plotted points on a globe with some tool based on our geographic coordinates or something at some point. < 1413332290 374625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: montreal is the new hexham < 1413332322 221509 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yup, and it's disturbing. < 1413332418 517851 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily : hmm, faudrait voir si on a pas un millieu en common d'abord < 1413332511 353195 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: At least X -o F(X) makes sense, right? < 1413332519 883838 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It takes an X and puts it into a structure somewhere. < 1413332531 504340 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: quel genre de milieu? < 1413332549 560559 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :moi j'ai genre la demoscene de montreal (et les trucs connexes comme la chiptune), le foulab, la bédé québécoise, euhh... < 1413332573 922646 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooh, y'a une scene à mourial? ah bin! < 1413332581 56464 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :une année particulière des gens en génie logiciel à l'université laval < 1413332586 667401 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gameloft < 1413332595 878132 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :j'ai fait mon bac en génie informatique à laval. < 1413332638 662585 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: disturbing I said? more like very disquieting, terrifying, canadianing. < 1413332654 290104 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1413332676 672396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok this does it, i'll put the whole log through GT... < 1413332677 377453 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :connais-tu joel bouchard lamontagne? < 1413332681 291337 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to implement the mandelbrot set without using any floats. I happen to be very bad at this, apparently < 1413332690 194460 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: eh, non. < 1413332711 340777 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon, probablement pas de connection d'abord < 1413332727 550295 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GeekDude : trying to make it run on an ARM? < 1413332728 764583 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GeekDude: how can you mandel without floats? isn't it the point of having enough precision to plot precise colours? < 1413332734 310918 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1413332748 912779 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to implement it in piet, actually, with an ascii output < 1413332755 959663 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh :3 < 1413332771 515725 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: The point is that fractals are cool < 1413332791 569587 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: je suis dans la scène plus boardgaming, et le fameux Douteux du lundi soir au Broue. < 1413332824 701847 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GeekDude: indeed. I remember having lost quite some time doing a haskell program to output a postscript file with L-systems. < 1413332842 162298 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also animating slices of strange attractors. that one was quite nice!) < 1413332864 7723 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmm < 1413332869 214937 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok je vais très occasionellement au douteux :3 < 1413332881 133383 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :en fait faudrait que j'y aille plus souvent < 1413332954 993172 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GeekDude: do you know where I could be posting an avi file on the intarwebs and have it play? < 1413332965 130127 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :... youtube? < 1413332979 441769 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :genre y aller avec mon cousin (qui habite pas loin non plus) < 1413332993 897954 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than that, dunno < 1413333013 238147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :avis could contain anything < 1413333043 512929 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GeekDude: if you ever heard a sudden facepalm just about now, it wasn't me. probably even only an auditory illusion. < 1413333076 972233 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sound was me reading about snapchat's recent < 1413333080 172581 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :"leak" < 1413333107 319009 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile, 13 minutes remaining while it uploads to dropbox...) < 1413333290 477034 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1413333297 783810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure whether i find your original french or google's attempted translation most readable. also it does strange things to the parts in english... < 1413333410 249834 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1413333481 889100 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: parts in English? < 1413333549 532259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ok this does it, i'll put the whole log through GT... < 1413333606 714263 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. aaaaah. heh ^^ < 1413333607 51347 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha! no floats http://i.imgur.com/jKexwd3.png < 1413333624 638277 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shiny! < 1413333654 293136 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :The code for it https://db.tt/Z7smLgTF < 1413333665 518820 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric ::= is assignment < 1413333672 924713 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :// is floor divide < 1413333686 929992 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :50 is the scale < 1413333980 391267 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: GT is weird. why is it capitalizing whole random words? < 1413334012 799527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you accidentally set the target language to german hth < 1413334014 118986 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GeekDude: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/video.avi < 1413334078 926490 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo, vlc web < 1413334093 727728 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT's not playing. Either it needs to download more or its bork < 1413334099 401254 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1413334195 38432 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hideoulsy uncompressed. < 1413334199 24372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is one huge video < 1413334231 158416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, vlc can't play it < 1413334246 845039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work in, like, mplaye < 1413334247 113722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :r < 1413334254 658592 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works in mplayer. < 1413334263 861074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you upload it in this format. just curious. < 1413334349 727229 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember. the file is from... < 1413334364 396725 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :July 17, 2011. < 1413334407 823158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :congrats, it won't even play in mpv < 1413334412 189642 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and it probably is even older, as it sounds like it's been copied over to my desktop from my university laptop.) < 1413334417 977062 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1413334430 655140 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it a video of? < 1413334444 254952 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of a bunch of dejong attractors. < 1413334456 672644 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://paulbourke.net/fractals/peterdejong/ < 1413334508 997039 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are gorgeous < 1413334562 144009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiling mplayer so I can play some random uncompressed video... < 1413334609 64851 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GeekDude: DLA is one of my favourite methods to generate fractals. 'tis sad it's so slow... < 1413334980 759951 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Peeerfect http://i.imgur.com/qOKek1o.png < 1413334989 161200 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I just have to paint it < 1413334996 901050 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :autohotkey??? < 1413334999 786817 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1413335000 964997 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1413335008 767895 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm prototyping in autohotkey < 1413335040 171646 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just have to convert to a piet program now < 1413335058 553031 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see a lot of ROLLing in my future < 1413335085 994311 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could just cheat and use the C-like compiler < 1413335091 194259 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that'd be no fun < 1413335102 606542 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and against the grain of the esoteric spirit. < 1413335121 661234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that was so not worth it < 1413335134 9643 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote my own piet interpreter and editor (This is the editor) http://i.imgur.com/W5pTmdk.png < 1413335162 977072 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GeekDude: I'm disappointed, I was hoping that'd be the source code rather than a screenshot < 1413335167 209575 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1413335174 8733 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://github.com/G33kDude/Piet < 1413335183 243815 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in the list of piet third party resources :) < 1413335190 444479 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now it turns out it isn't even written in piet :-( < 1413335206 460920 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1413335207 1446 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, AutoHotKey, seriously? < 1413335211 887508 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lowercase k < 1413335218 454919 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :AutoHotkey < 1413335224 886927 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yeah, why not! < 1413335227 21620 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so what. it's the compiling that counts, or something like that. < 1413335243 966691 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless you are referring to my very stupid and bad pun, then it's always worth it.) < 1413335301 369236 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I caught the pun < 1413335313 696078 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grain. spirit. < 1413335321 312341 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shows himself away.
< 1413335346 392823 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh... You're a grain spirit? < 1413335361 14605 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/dailyprogrammer/comments/2j5929/10132014_challenge_184_easy_smart_stack_list/cl8qe5g < 1413335363 269993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1413335396 722664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reasons not to use autohotkey: people will pester you constantly about programming in autohotkey, because seriously < 1413335405 430397 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1413335416 680933 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but here, "seriously?" is a complement < 1413335424 472758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/G33kDude/MyRC/blob/master/Socket.ahk oh good god < 1413335442 278508 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was written by an especially crazy german fellow < 1413335445 849852 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :he does great work < 1413335446 942863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, at least you didn't write that < 1413335448 134617 :dianne!~hianne@unaffiliated/dianne PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "oh good god" a compliment too < 1413335460 993451 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1413335470 72025 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Before that was a token based system < 1413335479 187181 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dianne: I'm not sure < 1413335479 508276 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :and before that was a label based token based system < 1413335490 493869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a point where you move from impressed to seriously scared < 1413335492 78545 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the best iteration of the autohotkey sockets library yet < 1413335535 948482 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Does the fully fledged scintilla scripts editor written in autohotkey count for "seriously scared"? That one wasn't by me, but I do beta testing for it < 1413335589 950690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GeekDude: no, merely programming something massive in an utterly unsuitable language still just counts as impressive < 1413335598 947751 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1413335622 512863 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of which, I need to finish implementing the channel switcher in my RichEdit based IRC bot < 1413335642 637636 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1413335651 315762 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to maestrith's (scintilla editor author) scintilla based IRC client < 1413335662 920936 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured richedit was simpler and better suited to my use < 1413335989 945680 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: ACROBATIC CHICKEN < 1413336069 605594 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sqrdhyawoynhyebz QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1413336597 398927 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1413336721 508233 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1413336790 375266 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1413336791 286586 :scounder!~scounder@2a01:7a0:10:151:236:17:48:1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1413336791 439792 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-drfvminyqtujfjfk QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1413336797 876822 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lkflesylowktizby JOIN :#esoteric < 1413336799 359302 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :GeekDude < 1413336952 222887 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Converting this into a bitmap is going to be buckets of fun < 1413336974 215693 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm up to 51 lines of psudeo-assembly < 1413337091 32958 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :and haven't even finished the qualifier for the while statement < 1413337134 276594 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Jasp14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=40617 5* 0370.114.225.120 5* (+2897) 10A minimal Scheme using JSON in place of S-Expressions < 1413337172 185835 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Jasp14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40618&oldid=40617 5* 0370.114.225.120 5* (+8) 10/* Jasp */ < 1413337315 554696 :visy_!~visy@ec2-23-23-221-74.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1413337344 12467 :SirCmpwn_!~SirCmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1413337345 341091 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1413337369 793029 :visy!~visy@ec2-23-23-221-74.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1413337370 290725 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-006-014-114.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1413337372 689421 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-178-006-014-114.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1413337373 151696 :upgrayeddd!sid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ssbvkjznjpkpgdqy QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1413337373 305444 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lkflesylowktizby QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1413337373 469579 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1413337374 227360 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1413337384 363230 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-todnzwuxwyyrdyie JOIN :#esoteric < 1413337469 799204 :SirCmpwn_!~SirCmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com NICK :SirCmpwn < 1413337495 165506 :upgrayeddd_!sid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mwshmpsvyuyistwh JOIN :#esoteric < 1413337932 849531 :scounder!~scounder@2a01:7a0:10:151:236:17:48:1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1413338205 538744 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In order to try to make a format for a program to decide how to arrange blocks (which may include gaps and references) into a file, I made up: http://sprunge.us/aVQa I am trying to decide: [1] If this is good so far [2] How the format of the "Edit" structure should be made < 1413338251 822823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1413338264 499583 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-178-006-014-114.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de NICK :Melvar < 1413338280 815120 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or even if they are really needed at all) < 1413338498 871110 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-30-175.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the blocks for? < 1413338613 894124 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They would be blocks of data which are placed into a file. For example the blocks might be text strings or subroutines or it might be something else < 1413338682 303000 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since, some file formats use pointer of addresses of blocks so it might help to make them to overlap and fill in gaps with other blocks to make it optimal < 1413339083 545700 :brandons1!~SingingBo@d50-98-172-234.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1413339320 991297 :brandonson!~SingingBo@d50-98-172-234.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1413339419 629182 :upgrayeddd_!sid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mwshmpsvyuyistwh NICK :upgrayeddd < 1413339813 349493 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: oh, you invented d-modules, right? < 1413339836 112223 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet you can answer all my questions about tangent bundles and all those things < 1413341043 910971 :brandonson!~SingingBo@d50-98-172-234.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1413341153 506012 :brandons1!~SingingBo@d50-98-172-234.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1413342226 737038 :nys!~nys@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: q < 1413342967 179344 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1413343171 343355 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.66.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1413343252 943110 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.188.69.142 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1413344620 298502 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :well,,, < 1413344654 675430 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: I managed to do something at least < 1413344661 199098 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/bEQHgCF.png < 1413344664 865713 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's outputting stars < 1413344674 395538 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that it's executing, at least < 1413344679 595302 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't seem to be doing what I want though < 1413344707 855102 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are definitely stars. < 1413344727 237910 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language is that? < 1413344731 27510 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm? < 1413344735 821153 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's my piet interpreter < 1413344750 317731 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, piet, underneath autohotkey < 1413344803 160807 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... < 1413344817 541869 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just made a debug view in npiet < 1413344827 593198 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right off the bat I forgot to push 13 < 1413345519 567783 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :It appears I've forgotten to pop a value somewhere < 1413346548 864742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>-[-[-<]>>+<]+> (15, 5) wrapping < 1413346550 349558 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>-[-[-<]>>+<]> (14, 5) wrapping < 1413346560 689658 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to say "these can't both be right" < 1413346570 608546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but actually they can, the top one has a useless use of + < 1413346577 788269 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so presumably it got generated by some sort of script? < 1413346622 545597 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also for some reason we have 8 different ways to write 77 < 1413346645 923563 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty good. does that give you a (13, 5) solution? < 1413346748 687360 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I store things that are not UI related in nib files? < 1413346767 54704 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the (14, 5) is the (15, 5) with the UUo+ removed < 1413346781 479312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so someone's already done the obvious optimization < 1413346786 695996 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait nvm yeah < 1413347026 560033 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cdscwuyyabvivbja JOIN :#esoteric < 1413347731 534721 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1413347914 182387 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woo! < 1413347916 695773 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: It works! < 1413347979 592201 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: http://i.imgur.com/ptcY3Y2.png < 1413347984 787523 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Output ^ < 1413348000 300897 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source code: http://i.imgur.com/lBn7KGy.png < 1413348252 997655 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1413348574 418186 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1413348791 373089 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1413348978 90862 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.163.36.90 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1413349148 305894 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1413349314 282834 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1413350534 922293 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Active Worlds has a Mac version these days < 1413351369 769702 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wish Apple was making money by selling the OS rather than hardware... the software's what I'm interested in < 1413351398 308924 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe with 'official' hardware that they guarantee a best experience with, but allow (but disclaim as likely lower quality) other hardware < 1413351421 5749 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't seem to allow their customers to choose a lower 'quality' experience < 1413351510 864343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone knows disclaimers prevent people from having reaction to things < 1413351540 757495 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :People are a problem < 1413351570 21016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone also knows apple aren't very deliberately positioning themselves as higher-quality and upmarket and not spending resources catering to creating cheaper, lower-quality things < 1413351695 635925 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't understand the iPhone size thing. I thought they were keeping things the same resolution, or a multiple of it, to make development easier < 1413351705 379264 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now there's all different size iPhones < 1413351720 143468 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess could still keep same resolution on different size devices < 1413351726 869547 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... could that be slightly ugly? < 1413351742 891513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.paintcodeapp.com/news/iphone-6-screens-demystified < 1413351775 656354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the number of "points" was already changed: iphone I think 5 increased the height of the screen < 1413351793 623687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and there is already ipad, in terms of multiple ios "point" resolutions) < 1413351884 24593 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is exactly the most relevant question you could ask, but why is the "a" on the "Points: The content is defined mathematically --" row translucent on the "Original iPhone" but opaque on the iPhone sixes? < 1413351919 920596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: they only added backgrounds in the iphone 3gs < 1413351925 6886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :before that all iphones were transparent. < 1413351933 101461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :any questions < 1413351960 54645 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No more questions. < 1413352153 199579 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Notification Center is a really confusing name. Too similar to NSNotificationCenter, which afaik is unrelated < 1413352456 800664 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1413352861 649290 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.66.53 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1413353259 213515 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.65.247 JOIN :#esoteric < 1413354975 94057 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.189.78.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1413355112 352037 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.65.247 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1413355246 695895 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1413355632 364064 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1413355855 292975 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1413356946 583427 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AutohotKit reminds me of AutoIt < 1413356984 209442 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.189.78.194 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1413357065 638067 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/public/csvHelper.au3 <- I've used lots of AutoIt in my windows-administrator and software-deployment past :) < 1413357110 229179 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :We had several tools for OS-migration user-migration etc. written in AutoIt < 1413357220 331741 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.68.63 JOIN :#esoteric < 1413357268 882428 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Does MediaWiki have a "Blame" feature? < 1413357288 98100 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: not an easy one, as far as I know < 1413357300 564211 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's enough data stored to calculate it, but I don't know if anything actually does the calculation < 1413357376 522248 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grepping history isn't possible as well I guess < 1413357401 604897 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like grepping for who changed foobaz to foobar) < 1413357480 72075 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wouldn't surprise me if someone had written a blame calculator by now < 1413357490 152749 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it'd probably be on the toolserver, thus wikimedia-specific < 1413357578 906401 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have added the 14b for 33 < 1413357612 787333 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm no. That one got removed < 1413357622 938593 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it leaves the tape to the left < 1413357725 181980 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Performance wise it's not very wise to use these constants :) < 1413357739 868424 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the small solutions I found spend like 5k cycles < 1413357782 56870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if they get optimized into constants? < 1413357796 593737 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :loop unrolling? < 1413357814 980801 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know some bf implementations can do that < 1413357841 646545 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :balanced loop polynomializing is the normal standard optimization for this sort of thing < 1413357849 990975 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the really crazy constants use unbalanced loops < 1413357935 640436 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, got a very strongly worded letter from IEEE about some over-length page charges that were allegedly due in May. < 1413357949 496136 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It mentions "numerous messages" they've sent, none of which I've received. < 1413357966 539705 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder where those have all gotten to. < 1413357982 464623 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :>+[-->-[-<]>]> < 1413357988 139903 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- is this unbalanced? < 1413357993 793752 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, [-<] is unbalanced < 1413357998 371012 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1413358004 724184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the number of < doesn't equal the number of > < 1413358025 294034 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm interested in BF busy beavers < 1413358026 782081 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... but it saves you 3B from the other solutions! < 1413358034 7511 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's that binary search thing that's vaguely blame-like. < 1413358048 814817 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to think of it, blame would work poorly on Wikipedia < 1413358051 70690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to all the reverts < 1413358059 177789 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used my crunchfuck thingy and a friend of mine who ran it over night to find those constants < 1413358094 22122 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: was the particular form of that program something that you were explicitly looking for? or did you just try random programs? < 1413358107 996518 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The http://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/wikiblame.php?lang=en&article=Esoteric_programming_language thing. < 1413358116 836754 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For Wikipedia, not for our wiki.) < 1413358149 715535 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it was an exhaustive search of all combinations of ><.+-[] up to 15B < 1413358173 770564 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I generated every variation/combination, checked if it's a legal brainfuck program, then executed it with max 5k cycles < 1413358181 866549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1413358199 943941 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if there are any better sub-15 constants than the ones on the wiki, they run for even more than 5k cycles? < 1413358201 121156 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, the interpreter wrapped around on leave-the-tape-to-the-left < 1413358208 433310 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so some short solutions it found weren't correct < 1413358238 67367 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means there might still be solutions <=15B that run in under than 5k cycles < 1413358256 742141 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: so to say, any listed solutions which size is <= 15B is proved optimal? < 1413358279 554127 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: proved to be optimal within 5k cycles < 1413358284 130709 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No. < 1413358290 302378 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1413358293 850124 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I said < 1413358298 394075 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, indeed < 1413358302 320513 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :my interpreter had a fixed amount of cells with wrap-around behaviour < 1413358314 182930 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, within 5k cycles and a relatively small number of cells < 1413358327 600448 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could just use 5k cells, then lightspeed would mean that the fixed width wouldn't matter < 1413358329 19975 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :My program for example told me 13B 200 +[-->-[-<]>]> < 1413358331 806236 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it hard to classify non-terminating or long-lasting programs automatically, just like what was done with busy beavers? < 1413358332 838500 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1413358343 327327 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I had to correct to >+[-->-[-<]>]> to not leave the tape to the left < 1413358353 192628 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means there *could* be another 13B solution to 200 < 1413358398 456976 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you could fix the leave-tape issue in my crunchfuck.c < 1413358401 19986 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then run it over night < 1413358424 576890 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, that too < 1413358426 440423 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think up to 15B can be done in a weekend for 5k cycles < 1413358436 621302 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's a single-core program < 1413358440 738923 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1413358445 470200 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : is it hard to classify non-terminating or long-lasting programs automatically ← you're getting /suspiciously/ close to the halting problem, there < 1413358461 480659 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course. but some optimizations can be done. < 1413358494 268294 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect some clever generation algorithm can eliminate a whole class of redundant simulations... < 1413358535 273497 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: you can certainly eliminate some programs from consideration < 1413358549 541475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla (IIRC?) was once on a project to find the shortest BF program whose termination status is unknown < 1413358556 579366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :input-free, I think < 1413358563 25653 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, you can pick some N, and if a program gets stuck in a loop in N or fewer steps, then it doesn't terminate < 1413358570 97794 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it halts in N or fewer steps, it obviously does < 1413358580 377282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by doing a lot of simulation to weed out quick-halting ones, more advanced analysis to deduce some of the rest as non-halting, and manual review for what's left, I believe < 1413358583 644763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :knowing the busy beaver behaviour of BF would be very helpful < 1413358601 679707 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but probably just as difficult as solving the original problem < 1413358607 523094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would be an interesting project; I wonder how long programs would be before running into a program that this channel can't figure out the halting behaviour of < 1413358647 518295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :intuitively I'd guess that we could figure any given, like, length 10 BF programs easily < 1413358650 686560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*program < 1413358672 328969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I doubt you have to go too high before finding something that stumps humans < 1413358678 108206 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even 10's long enough to write programs where it'd at least take us several minutes, I think < 1413358685 355434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1413358700 49197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, what is the kolgomorov complexity of checking the goldbach conjecture? < 1413358708 723779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's your lower bound < 1413358730 821107 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must... not... spend... hundreds of dollars on a desktop environment I will probably get bored of < 1413358737 391181 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is, finding programs with ambiguous halt behaviour is harder than trying to work out halt behaviour manually < 1413358740 646557 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: don't, seriously < 1413358743 92216 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.68.63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: the implementation you use, is it 256 non-wrap, and 30K cells wrap-around? < 1413358801 436178 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the closest equivalent to an OSX-like environment in the Linux world? KDE? < 1413358807 430200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if you can execute a lot of BF programs in parallel you can run a lot of them for a lot of cycles pretty easily, and filtering out trivial infinite loops is easy < 1413358821 996772 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :KDE is all C++y though :/ < 1413358833 617550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Ubuntu Unity has something that works almost identically to the OS X dock < 1413358837 394469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd need more advanced analysis on top of that for length 10, but with dedicated humans getting through whatever's left after that... < 1413358841 987653 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for pinning files < 1413358860 310562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is completely different < 1413358866 335412 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking more in terms of development < 1413358869 359451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, Windows 7 is pretty similar to both < 1413358889 228816 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in terms of development, OS X uses its own entire programming languages (Objective-C and Swift) that nobody else uses < 1413359034 620024 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about libraries and programs interacting with other programs in the DE? < 1413359044 842337 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A DE with an equivalent of AppleScript, for example < 1413359101 6806 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KDE does most of that stuff through dbus < 1413359112 888159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if sgeo wants to buy a mac v. ais523 doesn't want sgeo to buy a mac carries on long enough it will be worth the cost of a mac for me to stop having to see it. what i'm saying is, keep arguing if you want sgeo to receive a free mac < 1413359113 733659 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't found a way to make most Gnome programs scriptable at all < 1413359132 787111 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: atm we're discussing Linux < 1413359142 771028 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, hmm, we were having an ontopic conversation before this < 1413359145 268269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1413359148 964286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :re linux < 1413359202 350310 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They sometimes have Macs at libraries, right? < 1413359211 602150 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still want one in a VM though, and don't trust BitTorrent < 1413359234 751364 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I'm wondering if this is reaching the point where it's impossible to give Sgeo good advice because he's Sgeo < 1413359240 141534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what don't you trust about bittorrent, exactly < 1413359291 172257 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it worries network administrators, annoys ISPs, and you have to at least trust the other end to give you the file you want (like with an HTTP or FTP download) < 1413359299 586385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, sgeo < 1413359318 2538 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone could easily be monitoring who's downloading the file < 1413359331 987945 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than just one server (and anyone in between if http) < 1413359342 694952 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Smalltalk-based pure object-oriented environment to work with Mac OS X software." this sounds appealing < 1413359372 72176 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smalltalk + interacting with anything outside Smalltalk sounds /appealing/? < 1413359380 480491 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember, it was my disgust at the situation that lead me to invent Feather < 1413359382 723994 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feather, of all things! < 1413359388 431443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even in america i'm pretty sure you never get more than an isp letter for first violation < 1413359388 727886 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this needs more exclamation marks < 1413359391 526735 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!! < 1413359422 238082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course private trackers exist < 1413359435 598462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: also, anyone between you and any machine you talk to can monitor any unencrypted communication < 1413359444 778203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kind of how the internet works < 1413359458 945505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION runs some traceroutes for fun and profit
< 1413359485 253591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and downloading some known file over https isn't really opaque; the size is enough to give it away a lot of the time) < 1413359493 191688 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it might be easier for spying entities to connect to a tracker than to MITM/work with company/ISP with MITP capability < 1413359515 400791 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least, that's what I keep thinking. Maybe that's not accurate < 1413359523 424327 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/MITP/MITM/ < 1413359527 279607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: have you seen all the internet routing accidents? < 1413359537 243490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where random ASes say "hey, I serve [gigantic block of IPs] now" < 1413359551 15971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a ton of .govs suddenly get routed through china (seriously, this happened recently)? < 1413359558 875239 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, we know from the Prenda Law stuff that there are some highly incompetent people who can monitor a tracker in such a way that they accidentally make all the downloads from their honeypot legal, but not intercept HTTP < 1413359607 85051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there is some level of filtering done to routing announcements. but not enough to prevent regular disasters like that. the internet's routing is based on trust, even more than, like, the CA system) < 1413359633 761062 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the amount of filtering used increases every time something like this happens < 1413359636 81330 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is quite frequently < 1413359656 882184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was that time a while back where a government decided to block YouTube by blackholing its IP < 1413359663 935605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sure, but AFAIK it doesn't help many hops later < 1413359664 373600 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the block leaked quite some distance beyond national borders < 1413359683 258391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you don't need disasters this dramatic to do things < 1413359747 672433 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming that Intel Graphics is still a euphemism for suck, the only Mac notebook with decent graphics is $2499 < 1413359768 995861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iris Pro is okay. < 1413359782 138352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so are regular intel graphics, up to a point < 1413359803 426696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, don't you, like, have a computer with a graphics card already? < 1413359804 356458 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually seek out intel graphics because the Linux drivers have better packaging < 1413359817 320076 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nvidia packaging is really obnoxious when it goes wrong < 1413359894 535697 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm thinking if I were to start switching to Mac for some insane reason < 1413359985 878574 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is not particularly likely at this point) < 1413359987 451222 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: It had 256 wrap-around and 256 cells < 1413359988 11747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should try a platform before making a decision like that, given that the added expense of doing so kind of pales in comparison to how much it'd cost you anyway, if you require discrete graphics. < 1413360004 266378 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :some incredibly short solution used all those 256 cells :) < 1413360010 386241 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wrapped around memory a few times < 1413360016 932032 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1413360249 901768 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if a WINE-like thing for Cocoa would ever be written < 1413360260 340986 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not requiring recompilation < 1413360286 108235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that was done, I think, for command-line os x programs < 1413360299 239703 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.68.63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. ok, thanks. Are you only searching for number constants? < 1413360311 562148 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Re "trust the other end to give you the file you want", surely bittorrent blocks are hash-verified, if you get the torrent file from a reliable source? < 1413360345 565427 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes but you need someone to give you a reliable version of the hash < 1413360362 262377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the self-signed cert problem, you can verify that you're communicating with someone securely, but have no idea who it is < 1413360374 438007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost sort of like downloading literally anything < 1413360381 871168 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did make that point earlier < 1413360394 279242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :breaking news: bittorrent unreliable, knowing whether anything or true or not is possible, world collapsing < 1413360404 906205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...er, impossible. but how do you know? < 1413360407 64687 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc, my solution to it is kind-of inevitable if you know me < 1413360483 192685 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, you get the torrent files from the corresponding (HTTPS) project websites, I guess. < 1413360505 939057 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no way to know whether an OSX I download is genuine OSX. But since it will be in a VM, my level of concern is fairly low < 1413360517 71818 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming I never log into anything ever from the VM < 1413360519 613658 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: sure, that'd work, and it's what I use to verify downloads from people like Microsoft < 1413360590 287697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: if you're able to google "os x [version] hash" and click a lot of links, you can get high levels of certainty you have genuine OS X < 1413360598 587647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :microsoft even provide official install cd hashes < 1413360603 983662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't think apple do though < 1413360621 694312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Microsoft provide their official install CD for download full stop, though < 1413360627 566931 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But are things like Niresh actually straight OSX? I doubt it < 1413360630 656281 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just it doesn't work without activation < 1413360631 379539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually, spoiler, the really useful thing microsoft provide is file sizes, because you can search for them in some torrent search engines (but not file hashes, that I've seen)) < 1413360634 370053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no longer < 1413360647 813111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they realised it was a terrible idea to let literally anyone run windows illegally with zero effort < 1413360653 382451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: a couple of days ago someone downloaded their tool for downloading the official install CD, and it worked < 1413360662 726552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :without an existing windows install? < 1413360667 718500 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the link to it is kind-of hidden because their website organization is terrible < 1413360676 126793 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they had an existing install, it wasn't working < 1413360680 708121 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :needed the download to reinstall < 1413360694 299041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, well, I mean if you want it illegally like sgeo :p < 1413360715 802964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would I want it illegally? < 1413360724 814073 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be happy to pay for it if only I could put it on this machine in a VM < 1413360740 379246 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing things legally wrt closed-source software has almost become a case of malicious compliance for me at this point < 1413360760 751191 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the situation with Windows licenses and VMs again, can you do that for e.g. all retails versions, or is it special? < 1413360768 902446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you're having a serious problem distinguishing yourself from sgeo < 1413360793 322903 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm different from him in that our clearly absurd behaviour is in a different direction < 1413360810 573667 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I'm aware that most people consider my behaviour absurd < 1413360823 67878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you're answering things I say wrt sgeo as if they were wrt you :p < 1413360853 190091 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I know there's at least a "each VM counts as a different computer" restriction; IIRC there's no restriction on putting retail on a VM besides that, but I might be remembering wrong < 1413360888 940026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: " okay, well, I mean if you want it illegally like sgeo :p" was clearly directed at me, you don't refer to someone in the second person and third person in the same sentence < 1413360896 276835 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you can't put an OEM copy in a VM because there's no E involved. < 1413360898 634874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1413360901 960004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're trolling me, right? < 1413360962 94573 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't planning to troll you specifically, but I'm tired which gives me a tendency to intentionally drive conversations towards the absurd, which is a subset of trolling the channel generally < 1413361265 568258 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the driving conversations toward the absurd is a subset of trolling. < 1413361271 215926 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish Apple event was more googlable < 1413361342 501074 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tell app "Sketch" to set the x position of rectangle 1 of document "SketchDocOne" to 25" < 1413361347 799040 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AppleScript looks gross < 1413361444 290975 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/about-licensing/virtualization.aspx#tab=2 er, was this really the optimal way of presenting this information? < 1413361488 785311 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It was all about volume licensing stuff, anyway.) < 1413361526 308858 :kcm1700!~kcm1700@175.117.8.72 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1413361566 937127 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Do I need a Windows VDA subscription license to remotely access my work PC (licensed to run Windows 8.1 Pro) in the office from my home PC (licensed to run Windows 7 Home Premium)?" "The Windows VDA subscription license is not required if you are the single primary user of the licensed device (work PC in the office). In that case, you may remotely access that PC from any device. Non-primary users may access that PC if the remote device is separately lic < 1413361578 930398 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't even have thought of the question in the first place. < 1413361676 321795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/about-licensing/virtualization.aspx#tab=2 er, was this really the optimal way of presenting this information? ← what the, seriously? < 1413361676 484285 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"non-polio entereovirus" that makes it sound like polio is an entereovirus < 1413361687 844936 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"non-polio entereovirus" that makes it sound like polio is an entereovirus < 1413361689 805831 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1413361693 906557 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it is < 1413361719 559034 :kcm1700!~kcm1700@175.117.8.72 JOIN :#esoteric < 1413361735 48858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's nothing I love more than watching videos about windows licensing. < 1413361753 269087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: got cut off at "if the remote device is separately lic" < 1413361790 848167 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- if the remote device is separately licensed to run Windows 8.1 Pro or the remote device has the active Windows VDA subscription license." these are deep waters < 1413361807 986082 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did something unload my splitlong.pl. < 1413361920 849698 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAICT this video is just text with random animations added to fill space, that don't seem to obey any consistent scheme for conveying information < 1413361966 364817 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, this is the second-worst idea in license advertising since the old CLC-INTERCAL license agreement < 1413362028 511294 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, license communication? < 1413362204 380082 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, this is pretty worrying too: http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/about-licensing/briefs/winserv2012-rds.aspx < 1413362219 66546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the PDF itself (I haven't read it), but the wrapper page < 1413362229 446399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the old CLC license, again? < 1413362257 657654 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure, it had to be compiled before use < 1413362294 918712 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't have a CLC-INTERCAL version with that license agreement, IIRC (or that's old enough to compile it successfully) < 1413362309 834564 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it was presumably written in IACC? < 1413362359 489300 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Here's how I managed to make the video look by clicking around for a while: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20141015-video.png < 1413362371 19512 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's very informative. < 1413362621 358734 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.68.63 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1413363516 993155 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.92.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1413363554 409917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's basically what using windows feels like < 1413363666 622076 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1413363693 52025 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1413363718 202631 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cppafqhrcihegeht QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1413363741 381931 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1413363957 787179 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote week < 1413363958 363991 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :138) It's only been 2 months since anyone last made a commit! WRONG 8 WEEKS \ 352) meanwhile, I've been running a program for over 24 hours (getting close to 48 now) which is calculating digits of pi, in binary so far, it has found four digits I hope it will find the fifth some time this wee < 1413363978 681726 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, 352 is what I was looking for < 1413363986 338052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 352 < 1413363987 248793 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :352) meanwhile, I've been running a program for over 24 hours (getting close to 48 now) which is calculating digits of pi, in binary so far, it has found four digits I hope it will find the fifth some time this week < 1413363994 514770 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only one letter got cut off, so… < 1413364008 40555 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language was this program written in? < 1413364011 831100 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTERCAL? < 1413364017 723785 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do binary digits work? < 1413364021 605730 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Verity < 1413364027 997183 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.11 is 1.3? < 1413364036 860557 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh dear < 1413364044 370473 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: no, it's 1.75 < 1413364058 458042 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: the first decimal place is 1/2, the second is 1/4, the third is 1/8, etc < 1413364061 781298 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works for any base < 1413364062 773582 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: to give some context, this program operated on computable reals with no dynamic storage < 1413364073 71725 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1413364078 554265 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1413364085 638679 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like the worst possible coding style for the problem it was solving, we did it just to prove it was possible < 1413364104 120096 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :please tell me that's in the pdf < 1413364114 617863 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good it is < 1413364140 832847 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, imagine Haskell except it uses call-by-name not call-by-need, then imagine the optimization nightmare that happens when you try to do list processing < 1413364152 552507 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which PDF? < 1413364225 779135 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one in the topic < 1413364226 521835 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :is call-by-name implemented by inlining? < 1413364237 269939 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are there more advanced techniques? < 1413364239 192204 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1413364256 994326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's implemented by closure-passing, really < 1413364275 629436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in our Verity implementation, it's implemented via dynamic reconnection < 1413364278 988939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no closures involved < 1413364287 818292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant in general, but yeah < 1413364290 242947 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, think inlining only you have just the one copy of the function and dynamically change where it is in the code < 1413364311 627373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds interesting. you should explain fpgas to me sometime :p < 1413364324 969674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know what a multiplexer is? < 1413364327 977634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, I guess "dynamic reconnection" sounds fancier than it actually is. < 1413364344 34297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of wires, like, physically moving, except possible somehow. < 1413364352 222131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really should be getting to sleep though. < 1413364353 645013 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically just and and or gates < 1413364361 251384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1413364389 225146 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it's surprisingly difficult to get right, and harder to get efficient, with all possible call patterns (including higher-order functions and tuples) < 1413364433 33961 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to optimize out obvious inefficiencies in it is my current project < 1413364534 9381 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: yes @number constants < 1413364625 932515 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could write a multi-threaded variant of crunchfuck < 1413364632 198823 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't have the same bug :) < 1413364649 358235 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :man oracle writes such crap < 1413364670 295711 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then with enough time you can state that every program <15B is optimal for <5k cycles < 1413364680 930260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'd prefer it if I didn't use the reasoning of "if «single-bit memory location» is 0 here, we have UB, thus it must be 1" < 1413364694 525661 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd prefer to prove that it's 0 (because it will be, in those cases, barring compiler bugs) < 1413365464 310057 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Pics or it didn't happen < 1413366591 539653 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wikidump size doubles every two year or so < 1413366615 949679 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012 it was barely 20MB < 1413366620 208074 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it's 44MB < 1413366649 395861 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's slower than generalized moore's law < 1413366721 553378 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1413366733 904330 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how complex is it to find the bitwise closure of a set of numbers < 1413366748 596475 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitwise closure? < 1413366817 30260 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1413366861 574144 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :closure under bitwise AND, OR, XOR, specifically < 1413366899 405183 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1413366901 491433 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's simple: any bit position where all the numbers are 0, you can only have a 0 < 1413366908 972175 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no < 1413366918 901801 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can't apply the operations to bits individually < 1413366926 185540 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, was in INTERCAL mode for a moment < 1413366934 970606 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1413366946 58228 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may just optimize and assume that you can < 1413366955 63303 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone else can figure out an efficient way to do this < 1413366963 402275 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NP-complete, even with just OR you have the subset sum problem < 1413366979 808946 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want the concept patch to go in so that people will support it < 1413366998 189110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there might be a shortcut, depending on what you're trying to do < 1413367015 140585 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm not convinced you can reduce general subset sum to it < 1413367039 944569 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*easily reduce < 1413367071 79993 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to make clange understand flag type enums so that it won't warn if you assign enum_const_1 | enum_const_3 to an object of enum type < 1413367116 339650 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: my suggestion would be, check that all the enum constants are powers of 2 < 1413367130 70449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, accept any enum value that happens to contain only bits that are represented by enum constants < 1413367134 846201 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is close to what structdesc does < 1413367155 598546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I thought of the wrong NP-complete problem < 1413367170 25353 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of exact cover < 1413367174 410515 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which does reduce to that pretty simply < 1413367227 967913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, again, hmm < 1413367237 787186 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you prevent multiple uses of the same value? < 1413367240 546241 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tired, ignore me < 1413367393 848242 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still feels NP-complete but I'm less sure of a concrete proof < 1413367489 70371 :S1!~sheldon@p4FF92B56.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1413367618 705256 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's a fairly simple reduction from SAT < 1413367687 657689 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually wait, without NOT, I'm not sure that works < 1413367697 144459 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also I want to rescind XOR from my original specification) < 1413367705 307986 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do agree it feels NP-complete < 1413367989 443684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use the http://esolangs.org/wiki/Not_The_Main_Worb trick for that < 1413367995 800316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :represent any value as two bits, either 01 or 10 < 1413367998 459459 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1413368003 900522 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, no, that doesn't obviously work < 1413368009 288096 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might help but I'm not sure it does < 1413368225 267737 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1413368390 628046 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm curious about what groups subset-sum is NP-complete for < 1413368543 374943 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it trivial to compute enum_1 | enum_3 at compile time < 1413368604 414446 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: yes, but it's nontrivial to determine that the resulting value is valid for the enum < 1413368609 303073 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, this raises a separate solution < 1413368626 598429 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just not warn if the expression being assigned is made up only of and/or/xor/enumconstant /tokens/? < 1413368627 729197 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't enums, you know, enumerated < 1413368648 295480 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :enums as bitfields is a little awkward, indeed < 1413368662 386988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the other alternatives are even less suitable, assuming you want an actual integer rather than a struct < 1413369706 279752 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: enums are enums, unless you are in the Java world. < 1413369925 319223 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1413370153 546449 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1413370675 377925 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1413371473 330120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1413371671 627749 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Boat14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40619&oldid=17005 5* 03134.225.2.132 5* (+3) 10 < 1413371897 545096 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1413372001 154258 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: GREATER CHICKEN < 1413374435 390783 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1413374435 858918 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1413374832 134333 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1413375004 225054 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1413376155 979516 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If Your Cloud Vendor Goes Out of Business, Are You Ready?" < 1413376161 101282 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The clouds don't die! < 1413376196 176486 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1413376255 511644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just blow away < 1413376507 451142 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :They fall down to earth as rain, get soaked up by earth. < 1413376523 256378 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :until the data vapors and starts to build new clouds. < 1413376657 201675 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is this that whole thing where none of the cloud companies are actually making money < 1413376686 218919 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :They aren't making money? < 1413376787 470312 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amazon is losing money apparentely. < 1413377127 267406 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.189.81.38 JOIN :#esoteric < 1413377148 990165 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.92.206 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1413377165 974282 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't look dramatic < 1413377227 388136 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they increased their R&D investment by 240M and incurred a loss of 126M in the last quarter. < 1413377330 302941 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was that EC2-specific or across Amazon as a whole? < 1413377383 819038 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazon as a whole < 1413377419 523651 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a friend who went from our research group to Amazon's new speech technology thing in Germany a year ago, maybe that 240M was his wages. Then again, maybe not. (But based on conference appearances, they're really expanding that team; maybe it's indicative of some sort of a trend.) < 1413377456 698175 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that always reminds me to http://www.xkcd.com/908/ < 1413377530 675554 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can rent storage space in my cloud < 1413377538 95270 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :proudly backed up by floppy disks < 1413377552 210061 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in case I go belly-up I'll just send you the floppy < 1413377585 326229 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(No files larger than 1.44MB please) < 1413377607 230684 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope you have some sort of an escrow account for the mailing costs on the floppy. < 1413377865 506781 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's covered by the rent. < 1413378070 394507 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1413378071 574035 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic. < 1413378073 296765 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1413378088 633414 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's covered by the rent which is transferred partly to some escrow agreement. < 1413378172 333982 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can also offer you 0.5kB of inmemory storage < 1413378204 193372 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a $1 fine per bit you exceed it < 1413378232 367073 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you'll also get 0.5kb per Month) < 1413378235 449476 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*traffic < 1413378354 376490 :S1!~sheldon@p4FF92B56.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: S1 < 1413378727 728061 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1413379273 273324 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very generous terms. < 1413379312 445302 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1413379365 532786 :tromp___!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1413379466 286046 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1413379572 366517 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1413380124 629438 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dontaskdonttelllist < 1413380125 196998 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dontaskdonttelllist: q​u​i​n​t​o​p​i​a​ c​o​p​p​r​o​ m​y​n​a​m​e​ m​r​o​m​a​n​(​u​s​e​ ​q​u​e​r​y​)​ < 1413380158 599253 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1413380190 197210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I do agree it feels NP-complete <-- it's not, with or without xor, unless the number of _bits_ is exponentially large. < 1413380191 994679 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Should that particular list escape the nicknames so that they don't highlight (but you can still see them)? < 1413380203 419859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes < 1413380244 159152 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, does it already do it? < 1413380246 14864 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :V. fancy. < 1413380264 902821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :took me a while to get that into HackEgo with sed < 1413380268 557288 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I was having an Idea™, but apparently it was just a copy. :/ < 1413380296 497983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nihil novi sub sole < 1413380332 389815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially as i didn't want to highlight people while i was doing it < 1413380339 709968 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed 's/./&​/g' looks patently silly on first glance, before looking at it closer. < 1413380349 287697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1413380376 165920 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was about to say that perhaps that's overly escaped, but then I forgot some people have partial nickname highlights, so maybe that's for the best. < 1413380387 549874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1413380416 845181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the list gets long enough that it starts overrunning limits, we can rethink it. < 1413380447 188458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess just changing . to .. or ... would work. < 1413380466 70561 :tromp___!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1413380480 801230 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My initial instinct would've been ^., but the only partial nick-highlight I know of is at the wrong end for that to work. < 1413380595 663356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically i also do a partial search when i'm logreading. also at the wrong end. < 1413380604 700113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i mind that < 1413380610 780254 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps s/^\(.\)\(.*\)\(.\)$/\1​\2​\3/ but that's both ugly and overly complicated. < 1413380650 918801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol might have an initial one, not that he's here these days < 1413380703 885579 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today we had a departmental lunch at the nearby Turkish place, and people started talking about the aliasing effects visible in the gap pattern of the lampshade. < 1413380717 862173 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Made me wonder if it's a frequently asked question there, whether that's intentional or not. < 1413380773 213376 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's a circular lampshade with this |-shape thin holes going around it, so if you watch through the near and far rims, there's a moiré thing.) < 1413380844 765306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moiré is pretty < 1413380869 617442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to think of it, .. and ... won't work because there's at least one person here with a 2-char nick < 1413380889 878434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually two < 1413380895 143337 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. with the \u200b in the middle should work. < 1413380900 985425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1413380910 38357 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't meaningfully escape a single-character nick, anyway. < 1413380922 389129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, but that's a more complicated regexp < 1413380957 295914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, but i don't think they're free on freenode anyway < 1413380971 828149 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, it'd be s/\(.\)\(.\)/\1​\2/g. < 1413380993 552920 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing where sed regexps are BRE-style with meaningful ()s need \s is quite annoy. < 1413381009 262205 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EFHK < 1413381009 569400 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 151320Z 03012KT 9999 SCT018 BKN030 04/M00 Q1016 NOSIG < 1413381029 442722 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cow says M00. < 1413381029 871040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1413381030 156414 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 151320Z 17007KT 140V200 CAVOK 11/03 Q1014 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 17020KT < 1413381049 540925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :winter's a-coming < 1413381066 706333 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A-yep. < 1413381133 321590 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forecast here suggests sub-zero temperatures for the Thu/Fri and Fri/Sat nights. (Which has usually been my cue to stop biking to work.) < 1413381274 538127 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: to elaborate, you can find the atoms of the related boolean algebra/lattice in time polynomial in the total number of bits and number of sets to combine < 1413381338 365770 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: and then it's just a matter of checking whether the test set is the union of the atoms it contains < 1413381398 805812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm actually lattice (without xor) is more complicated than algebra, but i _think_ it still holds. < 1413381478 593604 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you need something more than atoms, i guess. oh hm. < 1413381492 705750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'm not entirely sure without xor any more. < 1413382170 348092 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.87.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1413382244 306217 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.189.81.38 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1413382247 562130 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: oh wait it's simple without xor too. let G be your set of generating numbers. For each bit position n, let G_n=intersection{m\in G|n is set in m}, and then M is in the closure iff M == union {G_n | n set in M}. < 1413382288 184863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*n'th bit, in a couple places < 1413382316 980145 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1413382354 319836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you _do_ include xor, then just add {(union G) minus m|m\in G} to your generator set first. < 1413382390 536042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. all the complements relative to the union.) < 1413382422 880445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/minus/xor/ to keep within the operations given < 1413382582 922397 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1413383414 402458 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.87.104 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1413383470 527153 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.91.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1413383985 404499 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1413384015 537710 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.91.141 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1413384093 218793 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.92.83 JOIN :#esoteric < 1413384154 718878 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-75-25.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1413385067 849157 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-006-014-114.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :< fizzie> The thing where sed regexps are BRE-style with meaningful ()s need \s is quite annoy. – sed -r ? < 1413385155 84869 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wouldn't be POSIXly compliant. But I guess it'd be a reasonable workaround on HackEgo. < 1413385460 341126 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't follow < 1413385480 703013 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :M == union {G_n | n set in M}; M is a number, the union is a set < 1413385587 601336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: i may not be distinguishing bit sets and numbers here < 1413385667 609356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: all the sets are also numbers hth < 1413385715 512581 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: G_n is not a bit set though < 1413385719 823631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is < 1413385730 339506 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a set of generators < 1413385743 797842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's the intersection of them < 1413385746 524432 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1413385773 262348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ok G isn't a number) < 1413385826 522025 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1413385833 687761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically this problem is _about_ bit sets in essence, so the numbers are just confusing < 1413385840 565711 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that doesn't work < 1413385848 171158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1413385864 691321 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, nvm, you're including AND, right? < 1413385871 93973 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1413385871 248325 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were talking about just OR < 1413385904 72006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND and OR, and optionally XOR < 1413385923 570851 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course if you have OR and XOR, you also have AND < 1413385928 93093 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1413385972 262038 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :... wait, how do you get AND from OR and XOR if you don't have access to 0? < 1413386029 325916 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 is a XOR a < 1413386065 552868 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, durrr < 1413386070 754841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get 1, just OR all the generators, this suffices for this purpose. < 1413386074 63885 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough sleep < 1413386083 935373 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not true < 1413386109 403772 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for this purpose it's true. it's not the true 1 but it works for constructing AND with. < 1413386117 895137 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you'll need to do 0 XOR 0 < 1413386136 149434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 42 `xor` 42 < 1413386137 761570 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1413386142 527548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1413386162 570113 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x = 5 `xor` 5 in x `xor` x < 1413386164 229636 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1413386174 616467 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :... wow < 1413386177 135008 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay I should stop < 1413386269 21087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have just OR, it's also simply, just take the union of all the generators contained in your number < 1413386273 218423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*simple < 1413386293 652115 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, ok < 1413386377 693151 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1413386435 448364 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1413386481 75545 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1413386831 221384 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com NICK :`^_^v < 1413386888 298315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1413387249 783544 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1413387284 197112 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1,3,0,4,1,7 < 1413387291 955947 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1,3,0,4,1,7,0,8 < 1413387294 279601 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : a(0) = 0, a(n) = a(n-1) XOR n.[0,1,3,0,4,1,7,0,8,1,11,0,12,1,15,0,16,1,19,0,... < 1413387303 182777 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : a(0) = 0, a(n) = a(n-1) XOR n.[0,1,3,0,4,1,7,0,8,1,11,0,12,1,15,0,16,1,19,0,... < 1413387905 888303 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uimrsjpnjalpimjn JOIN :#esoteric < 1413388269 275553 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cdscwuyyabvivbja QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1413388343 305110 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/ebolasurvival/ lol < 1413388357 448235 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1413388379 32669 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRO TIP < 1413388386 868516 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try not recording any scat porn in Africa < 1413388441 912781 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1413388462 395292 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1413388722 107551 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1413389140 115207 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.92.83 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whirl is a blast. < 1413389307 783328 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1413389531 16749 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to make a language called Blast < 1413389536 144024 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be a whirl < 1413389657 770736 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-75-25.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1413389745 966205 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.92.83 PRIVMSG #esoteric :center origin for the code, it mixes, reacts and explodes. and where the pieces fly and lie is the program? < 1413390726 848882 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-30-175.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One time my brother was talking with Comcast over changing around the internet setup at his office. < 1413390854 27519 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-30-175.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :After noticing it on his bill, he was paying $50 a month for "something called Blast", and asked what it was. The person on the other end had no idea. < 1413391325 178468 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1413391460 917829 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1413391494 171892 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1413391651 297243 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1413391746 181050 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1413392572 231118 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1413393396 781886 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-148.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1413393530 701370 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1413393729 389882 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1413394752 34472 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-75-25.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1413396179 194538 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1413396259 640925 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://golf.shinh.org/reveal.rb?A006520/teebee_1412040120&oct man, I never think of things like this because I come to Octave from MATLAB, where assignment is definitely not an expression. < 1413396294 270430 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Mine was the two characters longer bitand(1:500,511:-1:12) instead.) < 1413396335 9322 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1413396344 148577 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll stick with matlab anyway < 1413396366 266902 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1413396382 282378 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/JNiY < 1413396406 826289 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There have been occasions where MATLAB's restricted syntax has been an annoyance. < 1413396434 636283 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not for including assignments as an expression, except maybe for some sort of while a=... kind of loop perhaps. < 1413396552 235648 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.92.83 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1413396618 819827 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the author of this dialog should be shot. http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/yesno.png < 1413396743 19787 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's a completely useless deviation from the pervasive "are you sure" template that gives "no" the same meaning as "cancel") < 1413396868 391357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, what is that from? < 1413397160 375722 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1413397184 281914 :Lymia!~fujoshi@108-205-143-75.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1413397184 474774 :Lymia!~fujoshi@108-205-143-75.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Changing host < 1413397184 474908 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1413397233 244830 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Client Quit < 1413397377 63186 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :MATLAB also won't let you subscript an arbitrary expression (except by a really ugly subsref() function call), just a variable. < 1413397390 959613 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's a Thunderbird/Icedove dialog, I'm pretty sure. < 1413397396 342591 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I saw it just today. < 1413397443 559222 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-006-014-114.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks to be very clear about what the buttons mean. < 1413397529 148252 :S1!~sheldon@p4FF92402.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1413397572 912791 :S1!~sheldon@p4FF92402.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1413397625 947634 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.85.205 JOIN :#esoteric < 1413399172 876169 :jix_!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1413399173 29418 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1413399228 533085 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1413399280 284925 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1413399332 123471 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.85.205 PART :#esoteric < 1413399333 429859 :paul2520!~pi@unaffiliated/paul2520 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1413399334 54969 :Tod-Autojoined!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1413399339 449862 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.85.205 JOIN :#esoteric < 1413399354 431671 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1413399354 584987 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1413399438 356823 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1413399438 564370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1413399438 717937 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1413399459 850428 :dianne!~hianne@unaffiliated/dianne QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1413399471 877815 :dianne!~hianne@unaffiliated/dianne JOIN :#esoteric < 1413399525 302204 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1413399870 596015 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1413399874 171209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1413399898 468439 :S1!~sheldon@pD9FCA553.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1413399906 534036 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1413400144 652406 :S1!~sheldon@pD9FCA553.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1413400972 924535 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.85.205 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1413401112 621510 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.71.64 JOIN :#esoteric < 1413401921 207180 :paul2520!~pi@104-6-13-61.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1413401938 117510 :paul2520!~pi@104-6-13-61.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net NICK :Guest74506 < 1413402118 237568 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uimrsjpnjalpimjn QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1413402330 265988 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wasted at least an hour catching up with someone who had beaten my Befunge-93 pocket solution. This golf thing is dangerously addictive. :/ < 1413402497 603831 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's the point of golfing :) < 1413402500 589319 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :addiction :D < 1413402620 801257 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was just harmless, good, clean fun. :/ < 1413402798 615828 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw JOIN :#esoteric < 1413402939 914024 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't just catch up, I went past by two bytes *happy* < 1413403096 65409 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote my first brainfuck program to compute fibonacci numbers. it is 451 bytes long and i used some snippets from esolangs.org < 1413403096 265018 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat114.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1413403130 823383 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat114.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :q: is "SQL" pronounced like "sequel" < 1413403165 660962 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been told that both S-Q-L and sequel are acceptable. < 1413403178 93019 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"SQL (/ˈɛs kjuː ˈɛl/,[4] or /ˈsiːkwəl/; --" < 1413403192 3274 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :es qu el < 1413403204 683223 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one on the left < 1413403206 328749 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat114.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a guy told me he was working with sequel databases and i had no idea what he was talking about < 1413403283 234952 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"SQL, n. Pronunciation: Brit./ɛskjuːˈɛl/ , /ˈsiːkw(ə)l/ , U.S. /ˌɛsˌkjuˈɛl/ , /ˈsikw(ə)l/" says OED. < 1413403313 803005 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat114.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. < 1413403348 327302 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-75-25.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1413403369 855871 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be fair, it is a derivative of SEQUEL ("Structured English Query Language"), if you look at the history. < 1413403391 158080 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The acronym SEQUEL was later changed to SQL because "SEQUEL" was a trademark of the UK-based Hawker Siddeley aircraft company." < 1413403404 913123 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat114.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, here i was thinking it was always just structured query. < 1413403429 631196 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.189.74.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1413403430 398435 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1413403568 19579 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.71.64 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1413403573 848463 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.189.74.113 NICK :AndoDaan < 1413403855 425202 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it is good fun < 1413404052 796330 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-30-175.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1413404056 317609 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, didn't we have < 1413404059 393246 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^fibs < 1413404063 752119 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show < 1413404063 905496 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo reverb rev rot13 rev2 fib wc ul cho choo pow2 source help hw srmlebac uenlsbcmra scramble unscramble asc ord prefixes tmp test celebrate wiki chr ha rainbow rainbow2 welcome me tell eval elikoski list ping def a thanks tmp2 8ball < 1413404066 194792 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^fib < 1413404066 411982 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.1.1.2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55.89.144.233.377.610.987.1597.2584.4181.6765.10946.17711.28657.46368.75025.121393.196418.317811.514229.832040.1346269.2178309.3524578.5702887.9227465.14930352.24157817.39088169.632459 ... < 1413404070 961763 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show fib < 1413404071 115109 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>+10>+>+[[+5[>+8<-]>.<+6[>-8<-]+<3]>.>>[[-]<[>+<-]>>[<2+>+>-]<[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>[-]>+>+<3-[>+<-]]]]]]]]]]]+>>>]<3][] < 1413404081 489586 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of Fibonacci and brainfuck. < 1413404124 991241 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^scramble fibonacci < 1413404125 182358 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fbncicaoi < 1413404129 48937 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^scramble fibonacci < 1413404129 202402 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fbncicaoi < 1413404140 878304 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^unscramble ^scramble fibonacci < 1413404141 31952 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^iscccraanmobblief < 1413404165 371219 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^unscramble fbncicaoi < 1413404165 524477 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fibonacci < 1413404174 489611 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^choo < 1413404174 643236 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1413404176 342713 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^choo a < 1413404176 496084 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1413404178 401621 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^choo abc < 1413404178 555070 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :abc bc c < 1413404180 211781 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps there should be a ^. command that'd chain two, though that sounds like a hassle. < 1413404182 918476 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^choo hi there < 1413404183 72090 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi there i there there there here ere re e < 1413404192 844085 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^choo chooo < 1413404192 997597 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :chooo hooo ooo oo o < 1413404201 971399 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^thanks fungot < 1413404202 124882 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, fungot. Thungot. < 1413404214 186173 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote that when HackEgo was being down. < 1413404226 162658 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it wasn't entirely trivial to replace the exact logic of `thanks. < 1413404228 389980 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show thanks < 1413404228 543441 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>2,[>,]+15[>+6>+7>+3>+2<4-]>-6.>-.-7.+13.-3.+8.>-.>+2.<5[<]>[.>]>3+2.>.<3.<2[<]>[[-<2+>+>]+<-97[-4[-4[-6[-6[-4[>-<[-]]]]]]]>[[>]>2-11.<3[<]<.>3[.>]>3.>5][-]>]<3[[<]>2[.>]>5.>2] < 1413404239 162253 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure it could be simplified, but still. < 1413404252 57316 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^a b < 1413404252 210658 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :............................................................................................................................................................................................................... ... < 1413404257 568528 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^tell who < 1413404257 722774 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you mean @tell instead? < 1413404265 564472 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1413404267 312545 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't < 1413404270 998918 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^a < 1413404271 152241 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :............................................................................................................................................................................................................... ... < 1413404274 420914 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats a? < 1413404277 747395 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show a < 1413404277 900686 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+13[.] < 1413404281 92060 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just someone playing around, I think. < 1413404297 137207 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :\n and \r get filtered to '.' though. < 1413404301 445180 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^test < 1413404310 970861 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^test hi < 1413404314 921221 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show test < 1413404315 74522 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>2,[<2+>2[-<2[->+2<]>[-<+>]>],]<2. < 1413404336 570916 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^test 0 < 1413404340 558902 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1413404347 367661 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tmp" is what I redefine to test the bytecode compilation occasionally. < 1413404365 677031 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate < 1413404365 830791 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/ < 1413404366 78650 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | c.c.c |  ¯|¯⌠ `\o/´69   | c.c.c |   `\o/´69  ¯|¯⌠ | c.c.c | < 1413404366 232032 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | c.c.c |  ¯|¯⌠ `\o/´69   | c.c.c |   `\o/´69  ¯|¯⌠ | c.c.c | < 1413404366 232184 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 |\ c.c /^\  |\|   |     |\ c.c  >\    |    /< | >\ c.c /´\ < 1413404366 232326 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/|  c.c  >\  >\|   |    /`\ c.c /`\    |     |\|/`\ c.c /< < 1413404368 512347 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               (_|¯`\                 /´\ < 1413404369 580411 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                    |_)             (_| |_) < 1413404370 599390 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               (_|¯'\                 /'\ < 1413404371 615509 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                    |_)             (_| |_) < 1413404376 81072 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh. < 1413404387 293440 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks rather duplicatey. < 1413404408 109069 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great. This will be helpful once I plan to spam this channel < 1413404410 135217 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat114.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :digging the extra legs < 1413404411 411326 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The invasion of the four-legged mutants. < 1413404431 466777 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1413404431 620314 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | < 1413404431 620489 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | < 1413404431 620583 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/< < 1413404431 620676 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/< < 1413404435 677135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oblig. http://neilblr.com/post/58490668107 < 1413404443 606353 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :\m/ < 1413404455 955711 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :\m/ \m/ < 1413404461 625413 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what it matches there < 1413404473 387656 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ಠ_ಠ < 1413404473 540908 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69¯|¯⌠ < 1413404473 541061 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69¯|¯⌠ < 1413404473 694189 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/| | < 1413404473 694371 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 |\| < 1413404484 353268 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ಠ_ಠ \m/ < 1413404484 506865 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69¯|¯⌠ < 1413404484 507023 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69¯|¯⌠ < 1413404484 507117 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 |\| < 1413404484 507212 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/< | < 1413404519 594158 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everytime I use some of that myndzi will spam /o\ < 1413404519 747473 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                               | < 1413404519 747630 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                               | < 1413404519 747726 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                               |\ < 1413404519 747820 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                               >\ < 1413404544 190617 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1413404548 333398 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1413404556 633227 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wont be useng / o\ and \ o / then anymore < 1413404753 270996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hands (\m/ \m/) can be somewhat picky w.r.t. positioning, from what I recall. < 1413404753 630001 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            `\o/´69 < 1413404753 783821 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            `\o/´69 < 1413404753 783982 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              | < 1413404753 784077 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              | < 1413404753 936408 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             /´¯|_) < 1413404754 887094 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           (_| < 1413404755 952452 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             /'¯|_) < 1413404756 988562 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           (_| < 1413404757 982810 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-148.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1413404761 743772 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still with the legs, I see. < 1413404789 349088 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1413404824 132273 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^test  < 1413404824 285682 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ < 1413404845 638197 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :'test' seems to output 2**n, where n is the sum of the raw byte values of all input. < 1413404880 224513 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That was with \x06 as the input, leading to 2**6 = 64 = '@'.) < 1413404920 793564 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure what it's for. Not terribly useful on fungot in particular, since all other inputs except \x00 .. \x07 output nothing, and you can't input \x00 over IRC. < 1413404920 986567 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: a ring of conflict is a long-drawn-out affair. fresh whole tripe calls for a woman dare not leave her baby alone in the distance, incongruent with the creation of a pine tree about a piece of v-shaped metal with a sling and a rock mole is a terrible thing to waste. < 1413404938 950000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best description of a ring of conflict, though. < 1413404965 884161 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I hope we will all agree that a rock mole is a terrible thing to waste. < 1413405882 233205 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^test a < 1413407018 253731 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat114.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1413407539 19307 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cyjjigjeiyziycqv JOIN :#esoteric < 1413407580 520958 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat102.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1413407780 278841 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1413407816 564795 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1413408184 453105 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1413409145 166540 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1413409544 990178 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1413409926 371850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1413410380 633207 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1413410480 128209 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat102.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1413410494 261210 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat102.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1413410527 773399 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1413410790 646013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1413410790 925215 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 152150Z 10011KT CAVOK 06/M01 Q1015 RMK WIND 670FT 12011KT < 1413410804 737841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :supposedly will dip below zero tomorrow < 1413411017 277975 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat102.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1413411085 559229 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EFHK < 1413411085 837282 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 152150Z 04012KT 9999 FEW025 BKN030 02/M02 Q1016 NOSIG < 1413411113 111407 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Supposedly shouldn't this night, but the next. < 1413411127 528326 :Guest74506!~pi@104-6-13-61.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net NICK :paul2520 < 1413411128 653712 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1413411146 979210 :paul2520!~pi@104-6-13-61.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Changing host < 1413411147 132592 :paul2520!~pi@unaffiliated/paul2520 JOIN :#esoteric < 1413411153 534265 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat102.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1413411206 650157 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote my first fibonacci in brainfuck http://paste.eu.pn/index.php?show=1812 < 1413411397 311639 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++[--------------------------------------<[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<>++++++++++<[->>>+<<<]>>>[<<[<+>>+<-]>[<+>-]>-]<<[-]<[-<+>]<>,----------]<>>+<<[->><[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>>>>++++++++++<<[->+>-[>+>>]>[+[-<+>]>+>>]<<<<<<]>>[-]>>>++++++++++<[->-[>+>>]>[+[-<+>]>+>>]<<<<<]>[-]>>[>++++++[-<++++++++>]<.<<+>+>[-]]<[<[->-<]++++++[->++++++++<]>.[-]]<<++++++[-<++++++++>]<.[-]<<[ ... < 1413411397 502820 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mismatched []. < 1413411403 315516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... -<+>]>,[-<+2>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<2[>+6[<+8>-]<-.[-]<]+10. < 1413411478 609151 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used wiki code for printing numbers < 1413411486 760906 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i wrote my own for parsing the input < 1413411489 479760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fungot uses run-length encoding) < 1413411489 633294 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: they say that a polymorph trap is magic and magic armour which no sword in hand; long time the manxome foe he sought so rested he by the roadside for ninety-nine years is nearly up, so perfectly constructed that no one really subscribes to rec.games.roguelike.nethack. < 1413411494 691491 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not the shortest one possible < 1413411502 749104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^asc Hi < 1413411502 902857 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :72. < 1413411503 786926 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what are 2, 6, 8? < 1413411503 940232 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somelauw: shad*: shades are undead creatures. a tree, unless it was one of a number of people who said they had encountered a sasquatch inn near the tang, becoming more pronounced towards the point. < 1413411511 507206 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord Hm < 1413411511 660534 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :72 109 < 1413411520 745944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh they're both that way < 1413411532 108310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show ord < 1413411532 261674 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>,[[-<+2>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<2[>+6[<+8>-]<-.[-]<]+32.[-]>>,] < 1413411546 876404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i think you forgot to save after you removed the newline < 1413411557 120947 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I remove the newline? I don't think I did that. < 1413411566 512893 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just advocated using ord in place of asc. < 1413411570 510465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1413411577 934579 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :misread then < 1413411581 312911 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that you mention it, I could just replace the latter with the former. < 1413411632 659374 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def asc bf >>,[[-<++>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<<[>++++++[<++++++++>-]<-.[-]<]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]>>,] < 1413411632 812661 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1413411636 552514 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^asc abc < 1413411636 705793 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :97 98 99 < 1413411638 636899 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^save < 1413411638 790154 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1413411643 212307 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show asc < 1413411643 365585 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>2,[[-<+2>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<2[>+6[<+8>-]<-.[-]<]+32.[-]>2,] < 1413411656 41840 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As an extra benefit, the initial >> in ord got turned into a proper >2. < 1413411665 926101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1413411666 79360 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1413411679 817105 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There used to be a bug in the parser that didn't handle >>> right.) < 1413411693 657718 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :asc doesn't print anything for me < 1413411698 769035 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^str 0 set >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++[--------------------------------------<[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<>++++++++++<[->>>+<<<]>>>[<<[<+>>+<-]>[<+>-]>-]<<[-]<[-<+>]<>,----------]<>>+<<[->><[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>>>>++++++++++<<[->+>-[>+>>]>[+[-<+>]>+>>]<<<<<<]>>[-]>>>++++++++++<[->-[>+>>]>[+[-<+>]>+>>]<<<<<]>[-]>>[>++++++[-<++++++++>]<.<<+>+>[-]]<[<[->-<]++++++[->++++++++<]>.[-]]<<++++++[-<++++++++>] < 1413411698 922403 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Set: >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++[--------------------------------------<[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<>++++++++++<[->>>+<<<]>>>[<<[<+>>+<-]>[<+>-]>-]<<[-]<[-<+>]<>,----------]<>>+<<[->><[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>>>>++++++++++<<[->+>-[>+>>]>[+[-<+>]>+>>]<<<<<<]>>[-]>>>++++++++++<[->-[>+>>]>[+[-<+>]>+>>]<<<<<]>[-]>>[>++++++[-<++++++++>]<.<<+>+>[-]]<[<[->-<]++++++[->++++++++<]>.[-]]<<++++++[- < 1413411702 842432 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe the numbers have a special meaning < 1413411724 694575 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somelauw: It's a simple encoding for repetition, +2 is ++ and >4 is >>>> and so on. < 1413411740 525443 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1413411747 940650 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat102.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not ]10? terrible imo < 1413411748 855148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^str 0 add <.[-]<<[-<+>]< < 1413411749 8772 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Added. < 1413411758 687796 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat102.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fishie < 1413411764 622726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def fib bf str:0 < 1413411764 775982 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1413411767 242758 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.189.70.230 JOIN :#esoteric < 1413411775 179307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^fib 9 < 1413411779 560657 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...out of time! < 1413411781 897170 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You just overwrote an existing fib, thanks for that. < 1413411782 802600 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1413411784 49446 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, i'm writing my own generator which expands 2+ into '++' < 1413411787 408269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oops < 1413411795 938666 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well you can ^reload < 1413411810 17977 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In theory. I always feel slightly iffy about it. < 1413411811 851544 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^reload < 1413411812 32843 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reloaded. < 1413411816 393644 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's live dangerously. < 1413411817 641840 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.74.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1413411819 886485 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat102.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somelauw: maybe you should use the "standard" bfjoust encoding. < 1413411821 433822 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat102.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^fib 9 < 1413411824 953217 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The existing one doesn't parse input, so it's less fun. < 1413411825 790971 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...out of time! < 1413411831 566155 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat102.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1413411835 507267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show fib < 1413411835 660629 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>+38[-38<[->2+<2]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<>+10<[->3+<3]>3[<2[<+>2+<-]>[<+>-]>-]<2[-]<[-<+>]<>,-10]<>2+<2[->2<[->2+<2]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<2[->2+>+<3]>3[-<3+>3]<[-<+>]<3]>4+10<2[->+>-[>+>2]>[+[-<+>]>+>2]<6]>2[-]>3+10<[->-[>+>2]>[+[-<+>]>+>2]<5]>[-]>2[>+6[-<+8>]<.<2+>+>[-]]<[<[->-<]+6[->+8<]>.[-]]<2+6[-<+8>]<.[-]<2[-<+>]< < 1413411837 881959 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a feeling ^reload doesn't load the commands. < 1413411842 699278 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just the bot source. < 1413411846 667590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oops that's stupid < 1413411854 497364 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO U < 1413411864 107435 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1413411877 372069 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1413411881 402502 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^fib < 1413411881 626919 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.1.1.2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55.89.144.233.377.610.987.1597.2584.4181.6765.10946.17711.28657.46368.75025.121393.196418.317811.514229.832040.1346269.2178309.3524578.5702887.9227465.14930352.24157817.39088169.632459 ... < 1413411894 841953 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In retrospect, that probably should be called "fibs", and "fib" should be an input-parsing one. < 1413411911 847024 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also that should use spaces in place of newlines. And so on and so forth. < 1413411932 891694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: clearly you need fungot's save to use a proper repository, like HackEgo < 1413411933 251857 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i was just thinking that most westerners would find that very hard to find new ways of writing things. i'd better just stick with cmuscheme.el for both < 1413411958 662311 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm going to go with fungot's opinion on that. < 1413411959 62298 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: are you sure? public janitors?). it's syntactic sugar over such alists ( and the built-in macro is called?" " to hang from"). < 1413411980 662466 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though "to hang from" is a stupid macro name. < 1413412049 879358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, maybe fungot isn't the right thing for testing this new fib < 1413412050 34094 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's levenshtein distance in unary. < 1413412062 536366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://paste.eu.pn/?dl=1812 < 1413412065 154424 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2014-10-15 22:27:17 URL:http://paste.eu.pn/?dl=1812 [457/457] -> "index.html?dl=1812" [1] < 1413412066 268975 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf +17 >>,[[-<+2>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<2[>+6[<+8>-]<-.[-]<]+32.[-]>>,] < 1413412066 422317 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Done. < 1413412072 974183 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't print 17 < 1413412099 269043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somelauw: the numbers are just used by fungot on output, they're not part of bf proper < 1413412099 506622 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i see, thanx :p ( i guess). the last cdr is () non-atomic? < 1413412164 181495 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1413412165 407233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which bf < 1413412165 896893 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1413412196 860631 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not even part of fungot's own ^bf input, while they arguably should. < 1413412197 262673 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: sarahbot later tell gnomon i gave the link early, said " lisp is the whole thing will be flattened out to 133. < 1413412213 693172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo <<<(echo hi) < 1413412214 199702 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `(' \ bash: -c: line 0: `echo <<<(echo hi)' < 1413412226 798615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait right < 1413412261 363872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run interp bf `echo '!9'; cat "index.html?dl=1812" -` < 1413412286 189119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1413412291 955950 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1413412306 2573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run interp bf `echo '!3'; cat "index.html?dl=1812" -` < 1413412331 456280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait the paste already has the !9 in it < 1413412336 453330 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1413412358 814570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and stupid typo < 1413412378 182059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '/!9/d' "index.html?dl=1812" < 1413412379 569108 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1413412397 180632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat index.html?dl=1812 < 1413412397 690778 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++[--------------------------------------<[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<>++++++++++<[->>>+<<<]>>>[<<[<+>>+<-]>[<+>-]>-]<<[-]<[-<+>]<>,----------]<>>+<<[->><[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>>>>++++++++++<<[->+>-[>+>>]>[+[-<+>]>+>>]<<<<<<]>>[-]>>>++++++++++<[->-[>+>>]>[+[-<+>]>+>>]<<<<<]>[-] < 1413412404 301174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wc index.html?dl=1812 < 1413412404 792430 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 2 1 455 index.html?dl=1812 < 1413412415 32310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run interp bf `echo '!3'; cat "index.html?dl=1812"` < 1413412416 902010 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1413412437 387044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1413412463 806743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run interp bf ',[.,]!hi' < 1413412464 406761 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1413412473 277752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run interp 'bf ,[.,]!hi' < 1413412501 406455 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh < 1413412503 677495 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1413412525 58471 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1413412544 836965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought EgoBot's !bf supported ! but maybe it didn't < 1413412549 339124 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1413412564 249268 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.189.70.230 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1413412658 476535 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`interp bf8 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++. < 1413412659 153337 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1413412667 298632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`interp bf +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++. < 1413412667 887795 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1413412674 241044 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Client Quit < 1413412685 175543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`interp bf ,!hi < 1413412705 915059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it may have trouble with missing input < 1413412715 839331 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1413412723 410750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/interp < 1413412723 996135 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/interp < 1413412772 90048 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'DIY saves the day' | interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 <(echo ',[.,]') < 1413412772 681906 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIY saves the day < 1413412807 654705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh 8 is the default < 1413412814 401793 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr it used not to be < 1413412816 911033 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the diff between ord and asc, except that ord runs in a loop, there seem to be small differences between the code itself as well, like one ends on 10+ and the other on 32+ < 1413412828 633950 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: any wise words today? < 1413412829 272454 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: thanks, and i'd expect that that second fnord one. hope i didn't forget about the whole thing < 1413412851 478031 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somelauw: There are no other differences, and I just replaced asc with ord since the latter is handier. < 1413412854 450109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show asc < 1413412854 603422 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>2,[[-<+2>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<2[>+6[<+8>-]<-.[-]<]+32.[-]>2,] < 1413412857 521639 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show ord < 1413412857 675065 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>,[[-<+2>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<2[>+6[<+8>-]<-.[-]<]+32.[-]>>,] < 1413412875 921513 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're the same now, modulo the >> bug. < 1413412882 991422 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.75.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1413412901 768343 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def ord bf >>,[[-<++>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<<[>++++++[<++++++++>-]<-.[-]<]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]>>,] < 1413412901 921582 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1413412904 776397 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^save < 1413412904 929738 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1413412907 554600 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing which is better is that unlike the one on the wiki this one works for number >>256 < 1413412922 502719 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord < 1413412924 322066 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord z < 1413412924 475419 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :122 < 1413412942 829959 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord ä < 1413412942 983715 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :195 164 < 1413412961 543424 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :another difference with the wiki, is that this one destroys the number < 1413412964 488822 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somelauw: I got it from http://mazonka.com/brainf/ I believe. < 1413412978 536178 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "base expansion" code. < 1413412981 189972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '9' | interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 <"index.html?dl=1812" < 1413412992 142470 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a problems, since i can copy < 1413412994 621557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1413413005 983968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '9' | interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 "index.html?dl=1812" < 1413413006 686010 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :55 < 1413413011 709695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whew finally < 1413413012 430825 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1413413088 672032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '99' | interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 "index.html?dl=1812" < 1413413089 196146 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :195 < 1413413104 216334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DON'T THINK THAT WORKS FOR >>256 < 1413413131 787310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we're such critics) < 1413413161 147043 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :it destroyed my copy as well < 1413413217 9459 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '99' | interps/egobf/src/egobfi64 "index.html?dl=1812" < 1413413230 769260 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not optimilized for 64-bit cells, I take it? < 1413413247 400663 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1413413254 409614 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps that was a bit too much to ask, anyhow. < 1413413271 249572 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '20' | interps/egobf/src/egobfi64 "index.html?dl=1812" < 1413413271 792616 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​�46 < 1413413275 297105 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmm. < 1413413313 914522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode � < 1413413314 493736 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CHARACTER] < 1413413325 559880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat. < 1413413341 459136 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat102.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1413413352 996889 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1413413366 216365 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unidecode $(echo '20' | interps/egobf/src/egobfi64 "index.html?dl=1812") < 1413413367 240561 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unidecode", line 4, in \ s = u" ".join("[U+{0:04X} {1}]".format(ord(c), unicodedata.name(c, "DUNNO")) for c in " ".join(sys.argv[1:]).decode("utf-8")).encode("utf-8") \ File "/usr/lib/python2.7/encodings/utf_8.py", line 16, in decode \ return codecs.utf_8_decode(input, err < 1413413375 361028 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's even worse. < 1413413380 741856 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not well-formed UTF-8, presumably. < 1413413413 599504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought irssi would default to that windows charset then < 1413413517 235117 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This translation also has a Japanese transliteration. They're rendering the English as "lu li la" and the Japanese transliteration as "ru ri ra" < 1413413585 545047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ord $(echo '20' | interps/egobf/src/egobfi64 "index.html?dl=1812") < 1413413586 161178 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Malformed UTF-8 character (unexpected continuation byte 0x9d, with no preceding start byte) in ord at -e line 1, <> line 1. \ 0 52 54 < 1413413641 338514 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat102.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1413413642 765699 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, i found a way to make ord usable in my program, whenever you are at a point of printing, you need to start doing <<[->>>+>+<<<<]>>>>[-<<<<+>>>>]< and then use a single loop of the ord program, because it destroys 2 inputs on the left and this compensates for that < 1413413691 426172 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :without the leading << actually < 1413413716 254400 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :it copies the value from x[n] to x[n+2] < 1413413734 274560 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1413414292 559812 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf < 1413414292 776593 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Done. < 1413414294 279960 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++[--------------------------------------<[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<>++++++++++<[->>>+<<<]>>>[<<[<+>>+<-]>[<+>-]>-]<<[-]<[-<+>]<>,----------]<>>+<<[->><[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>>[->>>+>+<<<<]>>>>[-<<<<+>>>>]<[-<++>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<<[>++++++[<++++++++>-]<-.[-]<]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ < 1413414296 411550 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :++.[-]>>!20 < 1413414302 983087 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost < 1413414334 177939 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat102.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1413414371 787292 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1413414431 625667 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf < 1413414431 818372 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Done. < 1413414433 281427 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++[--------------------------------------<[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]++++++++++<[->>>+<<<]>>>[<<[<+>>+<-]>[<+>-]>-]<<[-]<[-<+>],----------]>+<<[->[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>>[->>>+>+<<<<]>>>>[-<<<<+>>>>]<[-<++>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<<[>++++++[<++++++++>-]<-.[-]<]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]>> < 1413414435 300618 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :!20 < 1413414488 250552 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1413414529 649634 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf 20+>+<<[->[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>>[->>>+>+<<<<]>>>>[-<<<<+>>>>]<[-<++>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<<[>++++++[<++++++++>-]<-.[-]<]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]>> < 1413414529 818570 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1413414661 412774 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf ++++++++++++++++++++>+<<[->[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>>[->>>+>+<<<<]>>>>[-<<<<+>>>>]<[-<++>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<<[>++++++[<++++++++>-]<-.[-]<]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]>> < 1413414661 566074 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1413414729 784844 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1413414767 309588 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :that snippet produces 6765 when running it in my own interpreter < 1413414816 991413 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.75.86 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1413414834 294341 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1413414852 275905 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1413414904 322921 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf ++++++++++>+<<[->[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>>[->>>+>+<<<<]>>>>[-<<<<+>>>>]<[-<++>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<<[>++++++[<++++++++>-]<-.[-]<]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]>> < 1413414904 576358 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1413414910 140528 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: you are lying < 1413414944 125276 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :you shouldn't overflow here < 1413415204 836336 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1413415334 971894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s interps/egobf/src/egobfi bin/bf < 1413415336 435239 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1413415350 379189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf <(++++++++++>+<<[->[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>>[->>>+>+<<<<]>>>>[-<<<<+>>>>]<[-<++>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<<[>++++++[<++++++++>-]<-.[-]<]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]>>) < 1413415350 895376 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bf: not found < 1413415358 244444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1413415367 858666 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1413415380 750568 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, just be glad you haven't seen the abysmal translations yet < 1413415385 873055 :Lymia!~fujoshi@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trust me when I say you don't want to < 1413415402 706395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm right < 1413415411 930355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s ../interps/egobf/src/egobfi bin/bf < 1413415412 492115 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: failed to create symbolic link `bin/bf': File exists < 1413415421 207288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/bf < 1413415422 561116 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1413415423 714346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s ../interps/egobf/src/egobfi bin/bf < 1413415425 97238 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1413415429 470546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf <(++++++++++>+<<[->[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>>[->>>+>+<<<<]>>>>[-<<<<+>>>>]<[-<++>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<<[>++++++[<++++++++>-]<-.[-]<]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]>>) < 1413415429 961726 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bf: not found < 1413415436 402110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now wtf < 1413415482 880929 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1413415487 604972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/bf < 1413415488 597868 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1413415493 14370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s ../interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 bin/bf < 1413415496 670403 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1413415497 508894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf <(++++++++++>+<<[->[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>>[->>>+>+<<<<]>>>>[-<<<<+>>>>]<[-<++>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<<[>++++++[<++++++++>-]<-.[-]<]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]>>) < 1413415497 989854 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​<(++++++++++>+<<[->[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>>[->>>+>+<<<<]>>>>[-<<<<+>>>>]<[-<++>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<<[>++++++[<++++++++>-]<-.[-]<]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]>>): No such file or directory < 1413415523 527874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf <(echo '++++++++++>+<<[->[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>>[->>>+>+<<<<]>>>>[-<<<<+>>>>]<[-<++>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<<[>++++++[<++++++++>-]<-.[-]<]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]>>') < 1413415524 34585 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​<(echo '++++++++++>+<<[->[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>>[->>>+>+<<<<]>>>>[-<<<<+>>>>]<[-<++>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<<[>++++++[<++++++++>-]<-.[-]<]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]>>'): File name too long < 1413415532 689348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bf <(echo '++++++++++>+<<[->[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>>[->>>+>+<<<<]>>>>[-<<<<+>>>>]<[-<++>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<<[>++++++[<++++++++>-]<-.[-]<]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]>>') < 1413415533 503263 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1413415543 129938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whew < 1413415555 607993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somelauw: i'm afraid HackEgo agrees with lambdabot < 1413415602 475535 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run interps/egobf/src/egobfi16 <(echo '++++++++++>+<<[->[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>>[->>>+>+<<<<]>>>>[-<<<<+>>>>]<[-<++>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<<[>++++++[<++++++++>-]<-.[-]<]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]>>') < 1413415603 142424 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1413415612 812190 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run interps/egobf/src/egobfi64 <(echo '++++++++++>+<<[->[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>>[->>>+>+<<<<]>>>>[-<<<<+>>>>]<[-<++>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<<[>++++++[<++++++++>-]<-.[-]<]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]>>') < 1413415644 52246 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1413415678 35812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somelauw: anyway why is the snippet ending with a useless [-]>> < 1413415695 211842 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :my own interpreter leaves the state in 55 (5, array('B', [0, 34, 55, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0])) < 1413415736 690499 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was copied from ^ord < 1413415823 547648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somelauw: what's your cell size < 1413415847 798960 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :automatically expanding < 1413415857 564610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not tape, cell < 1413415881 847583 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :256 < 1413415886 114288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1413415889 762341 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1413415903 276493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so egobfi8 should work, then < 1413415914 780195 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you mean 256 bits < 1413415932 944011 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried 256 and infinite, but in both cases i got the same < 1413415971 55759 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :can any of them print the stack using #? < 1413416002 887251 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :8bits < 1413416004 865339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember < 1413416048 33618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 --help < 1413416048 634588 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use: egobfi{width} [options] [file] \ Options: \ -eof {0|-|n} \ set EOF mode: 0, -1 or no-change (respectively) \ [default: 0] \ -debug \ activate the # command [default off] \ -unicode {on|off} \ set unicode mode on or off [default off] \ -wrap {on|off} \ set wrappong on or off [default on] < 1413416057 11561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha! < 1413416088 108907 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 -debug <(echo '++++++++++>+<<[->[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>>[->>>+>+<<<<]>>>>[-<<<<+>>>>]<[-<++>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<<[>++++++[<++++++++>-]<-.[-]<]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]>>#') < 1413416088 321671 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 0:10|1|0|0|*0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0| < 1413416134 218496 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord < 1413416139 838873 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show ord < 1413416139 992227 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>2,[[-<+2>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<2[>+6[<+8>-]<-.[-]<]+32.[-]>2,] < 1413416223 731491 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf +++++++++++++++++++++++++[->>>+>+<<<<]>>>>[-<<<<+>>>>]<[-<++>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<<[>++++++[<++++++++>-]<-.[-]<]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]>> < 1413416223 884911 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 25 < 1413416281 275691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 --help | tail < 1413416281 857589 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use: egobfi{width} [options] [file] \ Options: \ -eof {0|-|n} \ set EOF mode: 0, -1 or no-change (respectively) \ [default: 0] \ -debug \ activate the # command [default off] \ -unicode {on|off} \ set unicode mode on or off [default off] \ -wrap {on|off} \ set wrappong on or off [default on] < 1413416283 224122 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, i'm completely confused now. 25 is what i get as well for that one < 1413416329 438831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 6765 `mod` 256 < 1413416331 325763 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 109 < 1413416399 99734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose you should check if you've really running the same snippet both places < 1413416490 266485 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1413416518 415223 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cyjjigjeiyziycqv QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1413416573 981316 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 -debug <(echo ' ++++++++++ >+<<[->[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>> # ') < 1413416574 594566 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0:10|*1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0| < 1413416681 940062 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 -debug <(echo ' +++++ >+<<[->[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>> ') < 1413416682 517333 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1413416688 232824 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 -debug <(echo ' +++++ >+<<[->[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>># ') < 1413416689 136768 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0:5|*1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0| < 1413416834 271814 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i think i might see a problem < 1413416843 276375 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 -debug <(echo '>>>>>>>> +++++ >+<<[->[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>># ') < 1413416843 793200 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0:0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|5|*1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0| < 1413416856 562192 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm bin/bf; echo $'#! /bin/bash\n[[ $# > 0 ]] || { echo "Run what?"; exit 1; }\nci="$*"\necho -n "${ci#*!}" | echo /hackenv/interps/egobfi/src/egobfi8 <(echo -n "${ci%%!*}")' > bin/bf; chmod +x bin/bf < 1413416857 944186 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1413416863 866716 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf ,[.,]!testing < 1413416864 492286 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/interps/egobfi/src/egobfi8 /dev/fd/63 < 1413416866 299491 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, well 5 is good < 1413416866 666792 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1413416870 187822 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot my debug echo. < 1413416880 652535 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm bin/bf; echo $'#! /bin/bash\n[[ $# > 0 ]] || { echo "Run what?"; exit 1; }\nci="$*"\necho -n "${ci#*!}" | /hackenv/interps/egobfi/src/egobfi8 <(echo -n "${ci%%!*}")' > bin/bf; chmod +x bin/bf < 1413416882 185242 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1413416885 85066 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf ,[.,]!testing < 1413416885 675523 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/bf: line 4: /hackenv/interps/egobfi/src/egobfi8: No such file or directory < 1413416895 871543 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I keep typoing it "egobfi" instead of "egobf". < 1413416901 287532 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm bin/bf; echo $'#! /bin/bash\n[[ $# > 0 ]] || { echo "Run what?"; exit 1; }\nci="$*"\necho -n "${ci#*!}" | /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 <(echo -n "${ci%%!*}")' > bin/bf; chmod +x bin/bf < 1413416902 822181 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1413416905 916917 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The directory, that is.) < 1413416907 963660 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf ,[.,]!testing < 1413416908 548492 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing < 1413416910 294394 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally. < 1413416930 736559 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf ,[.,]!testing!this!logic!too < 1413416931 365041 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing!this!logic!too < 1413416937 700657 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf >>>>>>>>>> +++++ >+<<[->[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>> # [->>>+>+<<<<]>>>>[-<<<<+>>>>]<[-<++>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+> [-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<<[>++++++[<++++++++>-]<-.[-]<]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]>># < 1413416937 853842 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1413416940 956291 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got it the right way round, I think. < 1413416977 363045 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1413416982 595862 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(No facilities for passing extra arguments to egobfi in that script, though.) < 1413417089 397839 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf >>>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++ >+<[->[->>+<<]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<[-<+>]<<<]>> # [->>>+>+<<<<]>>>>[-<<<<+>>>>]<[-<++>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+> [-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<<[>++++++[<++++++++>-]<-.[-]<]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]>># < 1413417089 658138 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 109 < 1413417468 981535 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1413417528 725314 :Somelauw!~Somelauw@unaffiliated/somelauw PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny things where happening when having more << than >