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< 1415735142 384554 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a scow.
< 1415735189 329694 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that each 'o' invocation is supposed to reverse the direction of execution... but as o+++++]]]]]o is executed in reverse, the right o "portal" is moved to the right before any of the "+" are executed. *mumbles*
< 1415735286 224486 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so let's see what the interpreter actually does :/
< 1415735449 750196 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So apparently what actually happens is that the second o transfers control back to the first. "Move the pointer to the other o portal" is an awful description.
< 1415735509 597082 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
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< 1415735819 912960 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Portal14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40874&oldid=40872 5* 03213.162.68.192 5* (+51) 10clarify 'o' behavior
< 1415735915 299904 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Portal 214]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40875&oldid=40256 5* 03213.162.68.192 5* (-1) 10What was this about counting?
< 1415736078 180080 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Portal 214]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40876&oldid=40875 5* 03213.162.68.192 5* (+102) 10Clarify 'o' and '0'
< 1415736114 26417 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, same captcha three times in a row. I though there were several?
< 1415736139 106347 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*thought
< 1415736326 772382 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1415737233 649471 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Portal 214]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40877&oldid=40876 5* 03213.162.68.192 5* (+107) 10/* Example */ indicate instruction pointer in trace
< 1415737350 667993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: not any more
< 1415737435 267710 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Portal14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40878&oldid=40874 5* 03213.162.68.192 5* (+59) 10/* Example */ indicate instruction pointer in trace
< 1415737536 875197 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hmm I tried to make the * red but there doesn't seem to be an easy way)
< 1415737580 205592 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is to replicate the style of a block, so that one can use markup inside.
< 1415737583 180364 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1415737591 476349 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: The current thought is that if there's only one captcha, it's easier to replace if/when it gets manually broken, and having only one does not seem to be any weaker.
< 1415737612 308360 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm not complaining, just wondering aloud :)
< 1415737624 432959 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks for the explanation.
< 1415737649 340328 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've still been idly thinking about trying out something in the http://thingelstad.com/stopping-mediawiki-spam-with-dynamic-questy-captchas/ vein, but the current setup seems to be more or less working.
< 1415737652 829329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: can't you just use an explicit ?
< 1415737668 104799 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what's an explicit ?
< 1415737675 338736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in ...markup...
< 1415737679 58209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to prefixing with spaces
< 1415737692 398187 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's what I'm using
< 1415737711 775693 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's what the original author used, too)
< 1415737727 990780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, okay. I didn't look at the diff or anything.
< 1415737748 939555 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1415737974 937095 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm hmm. http://esolangs.org/wiki/Template_talk:Pre
< 1415738214 804260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=381506
< 1415738221 756079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...uh.
< 1415738224 330050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that an eclipse bug?
< 1415738232 618017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh!
< 1415738235 727873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my advice was the wrong way around
< 1415738238 640895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should use spaces instead of .
< 1415738307 880014 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ah thanks, that will work.
< 1415738446 761180 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Portal14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40879&oldid=40878 5* 03213.162.68.192 5* (+569) 10/* Example */ add some color
< 1415738545 796114 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Portal 214]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40880&oldid=40877 5* 03213.162.68.192 5* (+1346) 10/* Example */ add some color
< 1415738883 923981 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-148.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1415739387 21835 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Len(language,encoding)14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=40881 5* 0368.189.222.97 5* (+2261) 10Created page with "'''Len(language,encoding)''' is not a single programming language, but rather a large family of related programming languages, inspired by [[Lenguage]] and [[Unary]]. == Synt..."
< 1415739439 904846 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.66.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1415739475 983248 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Len(language,encoding)14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40882&oldid=40881 5* 0368.189.222.97 5* (-1) 10mistake in ASCII to binary
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< 1415739621 75486 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Unary14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40883&oldid=40720 5* 0368.189.222.97 5* (+29) 10/* See also */
< 1415739656 699247 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Len(language,encoding)14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40884&oldid=40882 5* 0368.189.222.97 5* (-35) 10Not a brainfuck equivalent
< 1415739727 809851 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Lenguage14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40885&oldid=40781 5* 0368.189.222.97 5* (+73) 10
< 1415740260 192118 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o
< 1415740295 182237 :MoALTz!~no@user-188-33-211-16.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds
< 1415740382 231613 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
< 1415743128 106726 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :groupon backed down from the gnome trademark... that was fast
< 1415743137 538971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, already?
< 1415743149 43962 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder how much money Gnome raised before that happened?
< 1415743185 375784 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://www.gnome.org/groupon/ says 68629 USD so far (might not be accurate)
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< 1415744145 617366 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, *that* was fast.
< 1415744159 199630 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It said something like $20k or $30k a very short time ago.
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< 1415746281 82348 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MNNBFSL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40886&oldid=40850 5* 03BCompton 5* (+1) 10/* Commands */ Fixed typo
< 1415746378 287003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1415748055 976886 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan.
< 1415748062 874951 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hjullello.
< 1415748118 487634 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello
< 1415748221 301310 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle!
< 1415748239 565070 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you're still the only one whom I address in the vocative case.)
< 1415748298 494159 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles innocently
< 1415748332 389886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hellørjan could be vocative, it's definitely not 2. declination
< 1415748338 29735 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today I went to a seminar on Forth
< 1415748352 774855 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 2.?
< 1415748368 644308 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: how was it?
< 1415748379 897667 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, the seminar proved interesting
< 1415748384 375498 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The language seems... odd
< 1415748394 922207 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But an interesting odd
< 1415748397 576479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: -us/-um -i, the only one that generally has separate vocative iirc
< 1415748403 449584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for the -us ones)
< 1415748423 455590 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't know for sure, I never got Latin imprinted into me during my schoolyears.
< 1415748431 847296 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, some are also -er, eg. puer
< 1415748436 426117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right
< 1415748448 336855 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, I went with the generic *PIE vocative ending.
< 1415748454 810761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: OKAY
< 1415748467 825814 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's really suffixless in nom. and voc., but I think they're all -er
< 1415748501 566494 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels complete now that he received his daily OKAYRJAN
< 1415748546 954071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the tidbits i recall about czech is that it has vocative -o ending for female names in -a
< 1415748560 414218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but none for masculine names iirc
< 1415748571 62502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or possibly i just didn't pick that up)
< 1415748731 125415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :norwegian is relatively light on case, but my dialect has a way of adding pronouns as articles before proper names that means vocative is slightly different, by leaving it out
< 1415748754 326853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hain ørjan vs. ørjan
< 1415748805 861236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(literally "he ørjan")
< 1415748849 50758 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lui là, l'ørjan.
< 1415748891 141872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also inflect the pronoun for genitive
< 1415748898 923612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hainnes ørjan = ørjan's
< 1415748909 206689 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can anyone think of any implemented languages, other than ColorForth, where colour has semantics?
< 1415748924 236100 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(text-based, I mean, so not like Piet)
< 1415748945 922135 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which is your dialect?
< 1415748970 60760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: northern norwegian
< 1415748980 942733 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: where do you livE?
< 1415748982 89815 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*live
< 1415748992 203166 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.76.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :paintfuck+ /
< 1415749029 320876 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :farthest north I've been is Trondheim, though I think my favourite place I visited was Alesund
< 1415749038 338078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i live in trondheim, which may have the same dialect feature (i'm having trouble deciding just by remembering) but it's not the same dialect
< 1415749040 126940 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A with a ring; don't have an international keyboard atm)
< 1415749055 942968 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, cool. Trondheim is also a pretty awesome place
< 1415749205 961967 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've also been to Alesund and Trondheim
< 1415749221 193909 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan, I don't think paintfuck+ has colours in the source code
< 1415749260 706431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :trondheim dialect is considered trøndersk, not northern norwegian though, but several features apply to both regions
< 1415749278 785550 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.76.239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh.
< 1415749341 391793 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to distinguish trondheim dialect from any other in norway, ask them to talk about their car; it's the only dialect in which the word for car is feminine
< 1415749419 915557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(iirc bergen dialect, on the other hand, can be distinguished as the only which doesn't _have_ feminine)
< 1415749433 988941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*only one
< 1415749513 720864 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-000-123.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it otherwise?
< 1415749899 881269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no:bil = en:car is usually masculine
< 1415749932 577440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :definite form bilen, vs. trondheim bila
< 1415750037 222830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :definite form?
< 1415750081 183472 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-000-123.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to have guessed the etymology.
< 1415750147 663607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: from automobile, right. iirc the word was supposedly chosen by a poll in a danish newspaper, and spread throughout scandinavia
< 1415750171 315349 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, like bus
< 1415750185 703122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: which is "buss" in norwegian
< 1415750217 583775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :("bus" in danish, which spells long consonants differently from norwegian)
< 1415750288 145765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: also, in norwegian nouns and adjectives are inflected according to number, gender (for adjectives, nouns just have them) and definiteness
< 1415750313 871903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bil, bilen, biler, bilene = car, the car, cars, the cars
< 1415750340 686786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although when an adjective gets added, we have an article in _addition_ to the suffix
< 1415750362 906781 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-000-123.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about case?