< 1415750400 791218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well we have -s suffix on nouns which is sort of genitive, but really the same as english 's so barely counts < 1415750415 629726 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :la bus (/bys/): you're from Eastern or Northern Québec; le bus (/bʌs/): you're from Southern Québec or Ottawa. < 1415750456 980394 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: number or just plurality? < 1415750506 685378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :plurality < 1415750520 817567 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: How about that Swedish thing of having a possessive pronoun, an adjective (with the definite-style -a suffix) but no suffix? < 1415750535 935232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: um example? < 1415750548 470463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: In Hebrew a noun/adjective can be male/female and singular/plural. But articles work a little bit differently so I'm not sure I can directly compare. < 1415750555 539399 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1415750563 418380 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do put a definite article on every adjective. < 1415750570 412471 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So maybe it's the same sort of thing. < 1415750591 642712 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Something like "den gamla bilen" but "min gamla bil". < 1415750595 452151 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: there are circumstances in which the definite suffix on nouns is dropped when the prefixed article is added; danish does this obligatory but neither norwegian nor swedish iirc < 1415750602 834804 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And there are no indefinite articles.) < 1415750632 808364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Verbs can be male/female, singular/plural, first/second/third person, and past/present/future tense. < 1415750651 524951 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or imperative, which is its own tense, I guess, and always second person. < 1415750689 763098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh right. yes norwegian does that too, although there are _two_ different options. "min gamle bil" or "den gamle bilen min". my dialect only allows the latter in most situtations, while conservative bokmål/oslo prefers the former < 1415750719 809066 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-000-123.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Imperative is usually classified as a mood, not a tense. < 1415750720 205981 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Good to see you've managed to complicate it more than the Swedes. < 1415750760 747701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: my dialect has at least three ways of expressing possession < 1415750800 7543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bil'n te hain ørjan, hain ørjan sin bil, bil'n hainnes ørjan < 1415750813 553040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i don't actually have a car) < 1415750842 480839 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am coming to the conclusion that colorForth was an elaborate joke in the early 2000s < 1415750857 894080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first two also work with non-proper nouns < 1415750861 127129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: I'm not sure the distinction is pointful here. < 1415750910 992599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh hm we also have an indefinite article in the singular, like english does, and that's used more or less the same < 1415750928 125089 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-000-123.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, I don’t know if you have any more moods; if you do, it probably is. < 1415750929 5939 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if we also have noun inflection < 1415750947 244384 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Hebrew_verb_conjugation < 1415750975 456900 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I think colorForth falls in the unintentionally-esoteric language category. < 1415750993 434507 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I do think that is an important category too, probably. < 1415751071 791620 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously languages with no articles are the best < 1415751086 836800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: norwegian has lost all person suffixes on verbs, and never had gender. we still have past/present/imperative, pretty much like english (but we have no progressive forms) < 1415751095 838068 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the lack of vowels disturbs me. without niqqud so many conjugations are written the same :/... < 1415751107 72055 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: most possibly. < 1415751114 847594 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: so compact < 1415751115 953525 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you should write an article, if there is no article. < 1415751134 655881 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :日本語万歳！ < 1415751142 577163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :generally our verbs are simpler than english ones, i think < 1415751161 220894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while it's the other way with nounds and adjectives < 1415751165 83171 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-d < 1415751176 201422 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Indeed. < 1415751180 216115 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm francophone. I'm used to an overabundance of unused letters. < 1415751186 438357 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-000-123.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :In German, adjectives inflect for three levels of a definitenesslike distinction, but only certain combinations of gender and case have different forms. < 1415751214 566322 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Newspaper headlinese is one of those languages without articles. < 1415751217 319695 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: こんばんは！おひさしぶり < 1415751224 673152 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Area linguist shoots man, escapes police, flees scene. < 1415751242 713778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately newspapers include articles directly below the headlines. < 1415751250 768967 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Un, hisashiburi ne (IME nai, gomen) < 1415751413 15091 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBL < 1415751466 944209 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Linguist Shoots Man, Escapes Police, Flees Scene” should become the canonical headline when discussing languages. < 1415751536 58574 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing I have wanted to do is making a Japanese-style manga book that is written in English, but the title is written using Japanese writing and some of the signs in the picture also have some writing with Japanese, but, the main text is in English. < 1415751704 569618 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: 心配しないで（^＿^）　お元気ですか？何が新しいのか？ < 1415751754 306425 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goodnight
< 1415751775 599684 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waves Taneb a goodnightaneb
< 1415751786 977005 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Un, genki desu. Ima koso... ano sa. Atarashii mono wo oboeru no ga muzukashii ne. < 1415751860 418053 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :そうですね？残念ですよ… < 1415751903 686845 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :でも、おげんきはもっとも重要な < 1415751929 640810 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have all of the Akagi manga up to 28 < 1415751940 422524 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I really ought to get back to having classes. my Japanese's getting way too rusty and corroded... < 1415751943 773086 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1415751952 583301 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I hear ya, I have been slacking off myself.) < 1415751971 662392 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darned work keeping me busy. :P < 1415752163 406131 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the Akagies are in my backlog. meanwhile, I got the complete Slam Dunk. < 1415753187 865768 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: That one I don't know. But, in this most recent Akagi, he manages to do something that hasn't been done before even though I have predicted it (kind of). If you read it, then you can see... < 1415753367 957411 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.76.239 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1415754506 551668 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just watched the first episode of Baccano. it's going to be an interesting series... < 1415754517 766070 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's goood < 1415754584 117886 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-linear Gravity's Rainbow in book form, non-linear Baccano in anime form... < 1415754596 807430 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be a non-linear boardgame out there to complete that. < 1415754609 324108 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(does Red November count?) < 1415755231 652346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Time Agent? < 1415755595 365618 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Or rather, that their race was always on top.” I think it fits the bill. < 1415756526 38591 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it always bothers me that I can read Japanese (somehow) but cannot write in that < 1415757797 895604 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not very good reading/writing Japanese, but I can a little bit, at least. < 1415758331 273467 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :today's kanji: 韓【かん】Korea. < 1415758389 866149 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nothing like a Chinese character, with a Japanese pronunciation, about a third country.) < 1415758417 623349 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: LATERAL CHICKEN < 1415759379 671911 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1415759546 466097 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1415760145 2378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1415761242 305766 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1415762570 308828 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MNNBFSL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40887&oldid=40886 5* 03AndoDaan 5* (+146) 10Added an interpreter. < 1415762965 40530 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:AndoDaan14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40888&oldid=40477 5* 03AndoDaan 5* (+14) 10Hey guys! *cough* I mean, added MNNBFSL implementation mention. < 1415762969 348688 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1415763155 531701 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.86.238 JOIN :#esoteric < 1415763666 729725 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yhbnexbtjjshxzwc QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1415766426 990380 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1415766962 888451 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morning reading: http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/files/ECMA-ST-WITHDRAWN/ECMA-116,%201st%20edition,%20June%201986.pdfhttp://www.ecma-international.org/publications/files/ECMA-ST-WITHDRAWN/ECMA-116,%201st%20edition,%20June%201986.pdf < 1415766977 244762 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arg, malformed link: http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/files/ECMA-ST-WITHDRAWN/ECMA-116,%201st%20edition,%20June%201986.pdf < 1415768773 140588 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will ABCDEF ever get a non-dead link? < 1415768910 471412 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you make one < 1415768927 33933 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only I had a perfect memory < 1415769104 704829 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-30-175.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1415769109 55116 :DTSCode!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode NICK :dTS < 1415769111 983235 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1415769117 77168 :dTS!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode NICK :dTSCode < 1415769131 590867 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LISP, FORTH, Io, Brainfuck... what am I missing? < 1415769162 550094 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how is the bfjoust hill doing? < 1415769240 650142 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :missing from what < 1415769288 626054 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elegantly-simple languages < 1415769312 92155 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking about which languages I should incorporate in a game I'm theorizing < 1415769315 749619 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Thatguy25252525 5* 10New user account < 1415769319 938874 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to play that game < 1415769321 977288 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you tel me about it < 1415769325 952298 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :also prolog < 1415769338 204911 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there is this matrix of bytes < 1415769356 4928 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you as the player have this character which is just a program < 1415769367 36108 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you can write in any of the above languages < 1415769375 413255 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they all have they're own strengths and weaknesses < 1415769394 449672 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but your program essentially is supposed to continously traverse this matrix < 1415769398 156494 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and can find other programs < 1415769417 902303 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you can delegate code to try and eliminate or try to communicate with these other programs < 1415769430 652771 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds so cool! < 1415769472 458824 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the world is represented as an ever-expanding matrix of bytes, and there is a 'tick' every few minutes or so < 1415769484 572085 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and each tick evaluates each step in a program < 1415769494 424952 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like with brainfuck a single tick would run a single instruction < 1415769509 280607 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with LISPs ticks are a lot slower and stuff < 1415769518 523049 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure Io is slow < 1415769522 730578 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry simple < 1415769530 573052 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I don't know about Io really < 1415769546 477125 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'd need to create a subset or something < 1415769559 36852 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the syntax and structure behind is really elegant < 1415769571 59119 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can make something that a user can build upon < 1415769587 903794 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'd need a way of making a 'tick' of the program more concrete or evident < 1415769596 470359 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really like th sound of this < 1415769610 969901 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and give some kind of power to the higher-level languages to prevent people from using brainfuck-generating scripts < 1415769622 976492 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but another big problem is how I would implement the structure behind this all < 1415769627 348764 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how to make it scale < 1415769653 516741 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably just use erlang < 1415769663 965762 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for now I'm focusing on the design of the game < 1415769678 176015 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: you're in #haskell right? < 1415769699 728768 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but dont hold it against me < 1415769718 606847 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah I looking for languages that are simple and elegant < 1415769729 709791 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1415769753 966631 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess Io is too bloated but I can see myself writing a subset or forking the repo and stripping the standard library out < 1415769788 530562 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lisp, Forth, and brainfuck can be used at least; I don't know much about the Io programming language, so I could not answer you about that. < 1415769798 748547 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prolog < 1415769852 129874 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe even lua < 1415769858 658980 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1415769877 604882 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://barrywatson.se/cl/cl_metacircular.html < 1415769877 788769 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering if there were any nice esoteric languages other than brainfuck that fit the bill < 1415769882 156968 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :look < 1415769923 661216 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah prolog is very similar to erlang but still very complex to implement < 1415769934 254217 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :prolog is very very simple to implement from scratch < 1415769945 109785 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the syntax is quite crazy < 1415769968 85824 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I meant by similar to erlang < 1415769970 91040 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :the syntax is extemely simple, on level with Lisp plus some infix operators < 1415769990 67820 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :the language itself is quite differnet to erlang since it has unification and nondeterminism < 1415770046 447540 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay I'll consider < 1415770048 421864 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it < 1415770057 897404 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooo what about assembly? < 1415770078 936926 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.86.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unefunge? < 1415770095 866394 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :you dont have to include it in your game but I just wanted to express that prolog is very simple and belongs on the list < 1415770115 346179 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: what < 1415770129 931069 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: waaay to complicated < 1415770130 155161 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :assembly.. could use something stupid like subleq < 1415770134 220397 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.86.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unefunge is Befunge limited to one dimension. < 1415770143 849814 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.86.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright. < 1415770168 460085 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't look like one dimension :/ < 1415770306 357746 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1415770567 381860 :dTSCode!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode NICK :DTSCode < 1415770620 186243 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw some things saying that when doing Huffman coding you need a EOF code or an indication of the length in the header. Actually, you only need three bits at the beginning of the file to tell you when it ends, or depending on the tree in use, possibly even less than three bits. < 1415770649 697818 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? < 1415770676 953867 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems wrong to me anyway < 1415770687 480238 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1415770692 932088 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :the number of bits out of the last byte < 1415770736 814190 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir NICK :reynir_ < 1415770752 751234 :reynir_!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir NICK :reynir < 1415770758 853145 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40889&oldid=34356 5* 03Thatguy25252525 5* (+586) 10/* ATZ */ new section < 1415770766 922079 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1415770792 616216 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40890&oldid=40889 5* 03Thatguy25252525 5* (+1) 10/* ATZ */ < 1415770905 516684 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :does esoteric archive other sites e.g. http://strlen.com/programming-languages < 1415770971 375790 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_M%C3%BCller < 1415770982 298398 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40891&oldid=40890 5* 03Thatguy25252525 5* (+2) 10/* ATZ */ < 1415771073 868990 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40892&oldid=40891 5* 03Thatguy25252525 5* (-1) 10/* ATZ */ < 1415771110 605560 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1415771284 732008 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_Fuck_Scheduler < 1415771473 482544 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Main Page14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40893&oldid=37931 5* 03Thatguy25252525 5* (+577) 10/* ATZ */ new section < 1415771553 715869 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1415771558 753998 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ATZ14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=40894 5* 03Thatguy25252525 5* (+590) 10Created page with "The ATZ programming language is an esoteric programming language designed by Arvin Zadeh in 2014. It has yet to be implemented and no interpreters have yet been made. Since it..." < 1415771801 555702 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1415772490 822082 :DTSCode!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1415772652 603210 :DTSCode!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode JOIN :#esoteric < 1415772654 181395 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40895&oldid=40851 5* 03Thatguy25252525 5* (+10) 10Added the ATZ programming language. < 1415774050 267453 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1415774576 991126 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know the "Schroedinger's Directory"? < 1415774638 68035 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls fldrA fldrB fldrC rmdir fldrA rmdir: fldrA: Not a directory cat fldrA cat: fldrA: Is a directory ... So, which is it? < 1415774647 956632 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is a file containing the text "cat: fldrA: Is a directory" < 1415775126 64280 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: some other process has changed it in between? < 1415775143 222489 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that can be a possibility too < 1415775170 843193 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What exactly will happen if it is a symlink? < 1415775207 8446 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ah, that's possible < 1415775212 276242 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's a symlink to a directory < 1415775227 374480 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because rmdir won't follow it, cat will < 1415776585 563471 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1415777275 617193 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1415777335 184292 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1415777640 555343 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1415777640 779160 :Patashu_!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1415777840 536619 :Patashu!Tenmu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1415778031 557451 :Patashu_!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1415778157 106296 :Patashu!Tenmu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1415778157 290496 :Patashu_!Tenmu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1415778348 781859 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1415778571 150292 :Patashu_!Tenmu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1415778969 183207 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1415778970 755286 :MoALTz!~no@user-188-33-211-16.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1415779380 846255 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.189.85.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1415779550 676990 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.188.86.238 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1415780229 972333 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1415780230 156529 :Patashu_!Tenmu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1415780433 183808 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1415780663 182335 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1415780699 237554 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1415780856 478 :Patashu_!Tenmu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1415780989 742000 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1415781077 795500 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1415781078 18890 :Patashu_!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1415781153 891914 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1415781264 914204 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1415781307 186071 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Client Quit < 1415781463 824834 :Patashu_!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1415781747 159860 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.92.38 JOIN :#esoteric < 1415781767 886305 :AndoDaan_!~Daanando@188.189.85.51 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1415781957 644222 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1415782066 889584 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1415783227 913383 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1415783663 927173 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1415783927 924091 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1415785722 187582 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The company name is FEDERAL GOVERNMENT APPROVED COMPANY, Nigeria Federal Government approved this company because some bank and courier company are using their office to scam many other people all over the World --" well, that's an imaginative name. < 1415785817 925112 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.92.38 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only the most naive person would still respond to something like that. Just the type they're looking for. < 1415785879 829545 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.92.38 PRIVMSG #esoteric :though, leading them on is fun for a while. < 1415785912 675485 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.92.38 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.419eater.com/ < 1415785948 217896 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would only cost $8000 to get my $10.5 million, and I can pay most of it when I receive the money, they just need $180 now "to enable them approve your delivery from Nigeria Federal High Court of Justice". < 1415785979 903921 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the company name keeps changing, now it's called "FEDERAL GOVERNMENT APPROVE FEDEX COMPANY". < 1415786034 246975 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Stop contacting Western union Or those evil Bank because they can't transfer your fund rather they will kept demeaning money one after another." < 1415786044 646558 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, they will demean the money. < 1415786078 390185 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You should ask them to send you $20 to confirm their bank account is real, after which you'll send them the full $200. < 1415786181 559074 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I'm enterprising enough. < 1415786414 524680 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone know of any dynamically typed BASIC dialects? < 1415786705 76793 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1415787593 676986 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: you can invoke other processes using Haskell yes < 1415787599 965485 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I do with blsqbot as well < 1415787619 704347 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsqbot launches the blsqinterpreter in a new process < 1415787633 470465 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for security reasons I guess < 1415787641 643191 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because this way I can have a timeout in the interpreter < 1415787655 692511 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is about 0.04s or something iirc) < 1415787668 623629 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a 2s timeout for the process < 1415787782 288487 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that's the way rlisp works as well < 1415787791 373099 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!rlisp (add $0 1) < 1415787791 606871 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Value 1 < 1415787813 459986 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!rlisp (head $0) < 1415787813 647377 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : (line 1, column 2): < 1415787818 294210 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh < 1415788001 765938 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Burlesque is becoming object something-oriented < 1415788011 345562 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a way < 1415788302 171594 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Quantum Dimensions14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40896&oldid=40871 5* 03TomPN 5* (+4) 10/* def function */ < 1415788518 558158 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Quantum Dimensions14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40897&oldid=40896 5* 03TomPN 5* (+155) 10/* Qubits */ < 1415790484 988858 :impomatic_!~digital_w@235.198.208.46.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1415791095 553925 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1415791142 396708 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1415791706 212669 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1415792406 818489 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am going to try and write a really optimizing brainfuck implementation at some point < 1415793237 882015 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sound like a threat. “I'm going to write you a brainfuck optimizer, you vile slimy fungot!” < 1415793238 103397 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: but some people just born to marry fnord with that and < 1415793407 242230 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: any predictions about the comet and the lander mission? < 1415793407 426126 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: oh you did < 1415793419 283320 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no, I mean any prediction from you? < 1415793419 500495 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: so i don't really have that much time but she was very pleased and was showing everybody you know and < 1415793435 858878 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: trust your instincts < 1415793436 143374 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ( ( ah ah)) to talk to meet people you know talking about travel i wish i did < 1415793471 187723 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: which one of your girlfriends was showing everybody? < 1415793471 371588 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think ' cause that's what they < 1415794146 630092 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hi < 1415794146 970667 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: i don't know how i exactly how i feel you know i get it um yeah i knew one day i just made up my mind you know certain certain subways don't go to bars so i have to < 1415794164 915468 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: walk to bars? < 1415794165 185570 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: what kind of products they sell okay laughter you know like he's chasing her all over the place laughter and so it's it's crazy < 1415794542 75217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1415794557 730321 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bars selling laughter, chasing prospects all over the place. < 1415794582 76124 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: good mœrjaning. careful, fungot is being sentient today. < 1415794582 260107 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i well i want what liz taylor has i want to collect it < 1415794610 210461 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: APOSTATIC CHICKEN < 1415794628 878099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: fungot wants to marry a dozen times? < 1415794629 130397 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if it's a ban on everybody then you can purchase that gives you a ah destination and something fun to do scrapbooking do you do any sewing any actual sewing or laughter you know < 1415794656 274993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh he left, how rude. < 1415794786 259841 :MoALTz!~no@user-188-33-211-16.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1415795244 689647 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Closest thing to a first peek at what I've been working on: https://twitter.com/J_Arcane/status/532501084120809472 < 1415795314 625100 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hersey"? < 1415795320 401967 :lesocratic!~hodonou@41.138.89.39 JOIN :#esoteric < 1415795375 677968 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heresy, yes. < 1415795376 467908 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: if you link a pdf here, you could at least _mention_ that it's > 50 Mb < 1415795392 963906 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh shit, sorry about that, I didn't realize it was so big. < 1415795408 947353 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1415795412 369418 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're mentally ill? < 1415795452 809652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mad < 1415795453 453968 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked. "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here." < 1415795457 940373 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Well, I am diagnosed with clinical depression, but I'd like to think it's unrelated to this project. ;) < 1415795458 605217 :lesocratic!~hodonou@41.138.89.39 PART :#esoteric < 1415795461 316507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not _just_ a joke. < 1415795536 759015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: that's kind of a weird thing to randomly ask somebody < 1415795569 422413 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Not If that Somebody has a blog article mentioning it. < 1415795589 259575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...if they have, then do you need to ask in the first place? < 1415795622 673877 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't asking for a "fact" < 1415795630 668213 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a "surprise" kind of question. < 1415795640 792041 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1415795650 75392 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I hit him in the face." "You did?" < 1415795663 119685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how surprising that somebody could have illnesses and still talk about esoteric programming languages on IRC. < 1415795668 600332 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1415795671 744440 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not surprising < 1415795679 556535 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm diagnosed with depression as well < 1415795695 771866 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, I'm living in a mental health facility right now < 1415795740 577489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :been there, done that. (good luck, btw) < 1415795799 998834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry for the sarcasm, anyway; I have a bit of a hair trigger about the topic. < 1415795812 781365 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was an odd question. < 1415795814 534411 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a sensitive issue for sure. < 1415795830 227555 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :My social skills aren't impressively good ;) < 1415795833 590155 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of stigma around it still, though it's starting to get better, at least about depression. < 1415795834 860619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my experiences with the mental health care system have not been positive < 1415795866 947394 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep getting good therapists and then having to move and losing them ... :( < 1415795913 308745 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: that sucks < 1415795920 593019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: also, they let you have internet? < 1415795921 482615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :luxury. < 1415795933 181988 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's not full stationary < 1415795947 444098 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to consult leo.org for a moment < 1415795968 286406 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also still on a sub-therapeutic dose of my medication, and the doctor here won't approve a bigger one for at least another two weeks, maybe longer. Big city health services in Finland can mean long wait times. < 1415795976 280284 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the kind of thing where you are not 100% in the clinic < 1415795989 591161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: outpatient? < 1415795991 874178 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like 50% < 1415795996 512045 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I work during day hours < 1415796003 123841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1415796043 879736 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you sleep there and stuff < 1415796055 816072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me, it was 24/5; I was allowed to go home on weekends. to start with (until I was uncooperative), and months later when they ran out of excuses to keep me sleeping there, it became an outpatient thing. (I was a minor at the time.) < 1415796077 231101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sincerely hope you are getting better treatment than I did :p < 1415796120 657699 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they are trying to get rid of me.. < 1415796157 499455 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in the evil sense < 1415796186 724553 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :just in the "you should think about leaving soon" sense < 1415796280 465212 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is that if you can't answer the question < 1415796286 786934 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Well, how can we help you?" < 1415796334 686220 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :things get difficult. < 1415796346 124068 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. yes they do. < 1415796364 175786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my experience was considerably less voluntary :p < 1415796388 511727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the place i stayed was also pretty lenient about internet < 1415796396 516803 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wrote the word "lexicuton", and was struck by a strong feeling that it should mean something, but I don't think it does. < 1415796404 180427 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Was attempting to write "lexicon".) < 1415796405 250199 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have internet from 17:30 to 23:00 in the clinic < 1415796408 727851 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no WLAN though. < 1415796410 80362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obviously, since i kept coming here) < 1415796426 801128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right. I suspect that is more common in facilities for adults. < 1415796456 724474 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't actually know all my "symptoms" < 1415796461 135254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you miss out on the "IRCing until 4 am every day on a smuggled iPhone from a mental health care facility" experience, though < 1415796468 457344 :MoALTz!~no@user-188-33-211-16.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1415796470 183585 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: aww < 1415796471 249772 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I'm blocked/too scared/whatever to tell them the whole story < 1415796485 889916 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well that _is_ something to write in your autobiography < 1415796486 143263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm so good at iPhone typing now. < 1415796532 777435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: my autobiography would be 2000 pages long and panned as being completely unrealistic < 1415796537 90821 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing that shuts down internet isn't DST aware though < 1415796544 375125 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a short time it cut you off at 22:00. < 1415796590 116953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: how does the blocking work? does it just completely cut the connection or does it, like, hijack HTTP to redirect to a "stop using the internet" page? < 1415796607 712927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not thinking about that thing that tunnels TCP over DNS but I'm thinking about that thing that tunnels TCP over DNS. < 1415796615 892175 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1415796618 251408 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it cuts the connection < 1415796674 181135 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not really planning on using internet after 23:00 anyway < 1415796678 815151 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's usually the time I go to sleep < 1415796739 753369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :weirdo. < 1415796740 628379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1415796741 448413 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"lexicuton" looks like "L-execution" < 1415796781 874293 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: that could be because of the one week difference in America versus Europe DST < 1415796794 14299 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of something like a particle physics analogue but in a language context. < 1415796811 422801 :AndoDaan!~Daanando@188.189.92.38 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1415796836 823010 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: as in, the DST offset changed on 2014-10-26 in Europe, but one week later in much of the US < 1415796840 278960 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing that mediates the interaction between two lexicons. < 1415796875 348585 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe you learn new words by absorbing lexicutons, or something. < 1415796968 849849 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the explanation is much simpler I think < 1415796980 881498 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you turn the clock one hour back < 1415796989 70757 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what previously was 23:00 is now 22:00 < 1415796999 201120 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Quantum Dimensions14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40898&oldid=40897 5* 03TomPN 5* (+2) 10/* Output */ < 1415797011 815000 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't turn the clock one hour back in the "cut internet of" thing it will think it's 23:00 when it's really just 22:00 < 1415797028 176793 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: sure, it's possible that they just misconfigured it < 1415797043 530062 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably even something that just cuts power of the modem/router < 1415797076 900237 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitschaltuhr#mediaviewer/File:Digitale_Zeitschaltuhr.jpg <- something like that < 1415797098 717461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might just be using UTC, sounds more likely than anything american involved < 1415797099 248015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd guess it'd be a feature of the router. they often have a lot of "parental control" type things < 1415797101 264525 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: hmm... I'd more guess it's a setting on the router, but that's possible too < 1415797132 637031 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway... if you have smartphone with internet connection you can use internet all day long < 1415797141 478099 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have no internet contract for my smartphone though) < 1415797143 213986 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: "can" in what sense? < 1415797158 912593 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you "can" and it's allowed. < 1415797187 597713 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes the policy of "no internet past 23:00" kinda obsolete actually < 1415797219 288865 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they pay by the hour :) < 1415797244 855354 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be a legal thing though < 1415797273 86031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how filtered is their internet? :p < 1415797280 890387 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are somehow responsible for what you do while you are there < 1415797297 380486 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well... I can ssh out of it < 1415797308 359873 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can play League of Legends < 1415797311 244256 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a short tim < 1415797312 749656 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*time < 1415797325 339366 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the connection somehow breaks always after some time < 1415797347 621000 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hearthstone works as well < 1415797528 341562 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We had one of those things which rotate and then you stick in pins to configure the time. < 1415797556 845611 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, we use one of those for christmas lights < 1415797567 79003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, a time-turner? < 1415797570 765972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, configure the time, get it. never mind < 1415797578 894235 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, ha ha. < 1415797594 71183 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, time-turner < 1415797614 697071 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://indoorgardensupplies.com/wp-content/uploads/TN311C-T-6-Timer.jpg -- this sort of thing, except much more... er, I can't figure out a better description except "German-looking", which is probably horribly inappropriate. < 1415797624 835790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is I interpreted fizzie's line as referring to time travel. < 1415797635 288135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEAVY DUTY < 1415797725 171031 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I hate the ones that rotate < 1415797728 411855 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :they generate noise < 1415798007 236051 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This evening I have an opportunity to fulfil my life-long dream < 1415798016 256430 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is? < 1415798027 50717 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be a contestant on University Challenge < 1415798034 123821 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My uni's try-outs are this evening < 1415798183 45332 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(University Challenge is a British quiz show which pits teams of students against eachother) < 1415798192 258454 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Quantum Dimensions14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40899&oldid=40898 5* 03TomPN 5* (+1556) 10/* Example programs */ < 1415798198 704687 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :on TV? < 1415798215 644661 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in TV < 1415798217 296054 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Quantum Dimensions14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40900&oldid=40899 5* 03TomPN 5* (+0) 10/* Hello World! */ < 1415798221 95702 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably in? < 1415798222 992995 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it on < 1415798240 189464 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's on TV < 1415798242 131405 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. on sounds better actually < 1415798245 535706 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fd1ywxn8ig < 1415798254 836809 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so Taneb is going on a TV. < 1415798259 210874 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1415798278 757703 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I make the try-out, then the second round of selection, then the team is good enough to go on TV < 1415798395 234961 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Quantum Dimensions14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40901&oldid=40900 5* 03TomPN 5* (+3) 10/* Hello World! */ < 1415798415 596542 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Quantum Dimensions14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40902&oldid=40901 5* 03TomPN 5* (+2) 10/* Storing qubits in cells */ < 1415798572 740799 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1415798615 187245 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Dimensions14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40903&oldid=40857 5* 03TomPN 5* (+0) 10/* Velocity */ < 1415798679 523420 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Quantum Dimensions14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40904&oldid=40902 5* 03TomPN 5* (+11) 10/* Example programs */ < 1415798730 743037 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Quantum Dimensions14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40905&oldid=40904 5* 03TomPN 5* (-11) 10/* Hello World! */ < 1415799438 751431 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vddrvbyuuotbfwox QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1415799537 239379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkcd is doing something weird again... < 1415799670 856234 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever it is id doesn't work in my Chrome so I couldn't figure what. < 1415799690 453638 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahh, now it's working. Just blank before. < 1415799714 951126 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Volume 4783" wow, that's a big number. < 1415799717 851156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah it showed < 1415800124 407481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone made http://xkcd1446.org/ < 1415800279 987355 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do people embed jquery from jquery.com rather than hosting their own copy... (though I guess I like that better than loading it from google.com) < 1415800661 428796 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: good luck for that. tell us how the try-out went. < 1415801342 697110 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1415801690 174064 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1415801802 428327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: dammit your comment about waiting for henkma's 120 byte solution was too close to accurate :( < 1415801830 269142 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :124. < 1415801854 90153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said "too close to", not "exactly" hth < 1415801876 813651 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't contradicting you. < 1415801904 121316 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otoh you seem to agree on the 68 for Brainfuck Optimization. < 1415801909 431218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1415801959 65882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a little surprised you didn't find that, it's _almost_ the completely obvious thing to do < 1415801962 938411 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, plenty of time left for desparation < 1415801970 348686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1415801974 196087 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't try too hard < 1415802002 528061 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so don't count me out yet :P < 1415802006 744402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right :) < 1415802092 180655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm henkma's 124 solution uses as many alphanums but much fewer symbols < 1415802281 67835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps that means he's using some verbosely named function, or even an import < 1415802327 185457 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1415802409 142633 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :import Data.Mysterious.Bag.Of.Golf.Tricks;main=doWhatIMean < 1415802428 41637 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's a bag, hence in data) < 1415802506 43734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually tested Data.Map, it was one char longer than Data.List with sort < 1415802613 817982 :shikhout!~shikhin@120.57.224.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1415802647 298393 :shikhout!~shikhin@120.57.224.239 NICK :Guest86977 < 1415802755 579478 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-148.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1415802779 78449 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1415804238 263330 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who here has been looking at Rust? < 1415804257 267129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking at rust forming, now there's a hobby < 1415804305 380800 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :"However, due to the quantum nature of the program, this will only occur ≈99% of the time. " Well, there are deterministic quantum algorithms too < 1415804552 633901 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1415804688 4489 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1415805042 250905 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go Philae go < 1415805050 16383 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1415805083 508865 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the harpoons don't work it will just bounce of the comet back into space? < 1415805087 855976 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*off < 1415805103 989764 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: no < 1415805110 505066 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bounce off from the comet? < 1415805138 613380 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-197.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1415805142 877692 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm no < 1415805158 321679 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kxssofotujkkzhpt JOIN :#esoteric < 1415805198 371711 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's "bounce off the comet", right? < 1415805205 810523 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thruster may still work, and even if it doesn't, there's dampers so he doesn't bounce too high so gravity may still help, and after that he can anchor himself like a rock climber < 1415805220 605410 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: but I've read that gravity isn't really strong < 1415805226 5116 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(on said comet) < 1415805233 568262 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bounce off is the unlikely worst case < 1415805244 513174 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, it's not strong, it's a small (four kilometer size) comet < 1415805279 155971 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :this news site says it only weighs 4 grams on the comet < 1415805293 881590 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which suggests that if I threw a golf ball at it it would just bounce off into space again < 1415805295 187196 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lander still slows down a lot before landing, those thursters work. it's just the reverse thruster that weakly pushes the lander _towards_ the comet _after_ touching down that may have a problem < 1415805307 464544 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the rebound is probably stronger than the gravity < 1415805311 456698 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: yes, but there's nobody throwing golf balls that far up < 1415805431 191225 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it really says "weighs 4 grams" and not something like "equivalent of 4 grams on Earth" or anything, that must've annoyed quite a few readers. < 1415805457 762411 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1415805467 958847 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's obvious that it means "equivalent of 4 grams on earth" < 1415805478 956354 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to me) < 1415805508 913984 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may be obvious, but I wouldn't be surprised it'd still annoy people. It kind of does that to me. < 1415805579 164123 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yawn* < 1415805944 10038 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see fizzie did basic brainfuck optimizations < 1415805966 873915 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yawn* < 1415806022 355665 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1415806229 90486 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1415806699 33991 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know of a channel where I can ask basic APL questions? < 1415807311 911055 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1415807412 164066 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :try stackoverflow?! < 1415807454 625372 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any irc channels for those J / K languages? < 1415807529 738020 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas knows some J < 1415807533 118361 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 5 < 1415807533 497590 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp, there is but I am not sure if that is the right place to be asking about APL? < 1415807533 681768 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: 5 < 1415807546 12858 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ i.5 < 1415807546 545505 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: 0 1 2 3 4 < 1415807554 829342 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 1+i.5 < 1415807555 376318 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: 1 2 3 4 5 < 1415807588 842355 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ i.5+i.5 < 1415807589 389070 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 < 1415807589 573639 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 < 1415807589 573743 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 < 1415807589 573818 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 < 1415807589 573892 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 < 1415807589 573965 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: ... < 1415807595 57050 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hu < 1415807605 173984 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ +i.5i.5 < 1415807605 696680 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: |ill-formed number < 1415807615 985433 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ (i.5)+i.5 < 1415807616 422894 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: 0 2 4 6 8 < 1415807644 163311 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 4rz4rz?+ < 1415807644 647342 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1415807648 134875 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 4rz4rz?+ < 1415807648 318133 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {0 2 4 6 8} < 1415807727 640689 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1415807771 893415 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought those are the modern derivates of APL < 1415807800 575225 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq is really modern . < 1415807879 190184 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {2 2 3 1}{2 2 2 2}ct < 1415807879 378974 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1415807882 183591 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {2 2 3 1}{2 2 2 2}ct < 1415807882 367632 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.0 < 1415807911 46138 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {2 2 3 1}{2 2 2 2}ct4 0.95cq < 1415807911 228912 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9.487729036781156 < 1415807923 951838 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {2 2 3 1}{2 2 2 2}ct4 0.95cq.< < 1415807924 135859 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1415807933 877490 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-197.public.wayport.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1415807937 944127 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0 2 5 1}{2 2 2 2}ct4 0.95cq.< < 1415807938 128394 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1415807944 281821 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {0 0 7 1}{2 2 2 2}ct4 0.95cq.< < 1415807944 466223 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1415807975 620532 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-197.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1415807985 749587 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1415807992 626902 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {2 2 3 1}SD < 1415807992 810933 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.816496580927726 < 1415808048 320594 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "Hello, world!"tt{**32.-2B!7'0P[}m[sa^^8.%8\/.-.+'0[P8co{2B!}\m < 1415808048 504724 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {81 22 100 201 227 0 87 159 74 100 64 32} < 1415808115 442757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I pretty much did the same as the ubiquitous sed, so it's p. boring. < 1415808127 146178 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {81 22 100 201 227 0 87 159 74 100 64 32}{2B!8'0P[}\m6co{L[6==}f[{2B!32.+L[}\m < 1415808127 330283 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "419DR>, 5Y]*9$ @" < 1415808133 591446 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1415808135 518166 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems buggy < 1415808146 5689 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. < 1415808190 868765 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "1234"<-3co)<-<-',IC < 1415808191 51622 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "1,234" < 1415808199 23940 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "1234567"<-3co)<-<-',IC < 1415808199 208193 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "1,234,567" < 1415808284 532268 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1234567<-3co)<-<-',IC < 1415808284 755094 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {ERROR: Burlesque: (_+) Invalid arguments!} < 1415808291 348420 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1234567 3co < 1415808291 532746 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {123 456 7} < 1415808405 366621 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1234567<-3co)<-<-',[] < 1415808405 641176 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {1 ', 234 ', 567} < 1415808414 222828 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1234567<-3co)<-<-',[]im < 1415808414 426418 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: (++) Invalid arguments! < 1415808417 331286 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1234567<-3co)<-<-',[] < 1415808417 564867 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {1 ', 234 ', 567} < 1415808422 994332 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1234567<-3co)<-<-(,)[] < 1415808423 214617 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {1 , 234 , 567} < 1415808425 566924 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1234567<-3co)<-<-(,)[]im < 1415808425 751003 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: (++) Invalid arguments! < 1415808427 335885 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1234567<-3co)<-<-(,)[] < 1415808427 518841 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : {1 , 234 , 567} < 1415808431 358833 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1234567<-3co)<-<-(,)[]sp < 1415808431 598779 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : [Sh, "\n", 1, "\n", Sh, "\n", ,, "\n", Sh, "\n", 234, "\n", Sh, "\n", ,, "\n", S < 1415808437 725241 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1234567<-3co)<-<-(,)[]bs < 1415808437 908129 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : "1 , 234 , 567" < 1415808441 168714 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1234567<-3co)<-<-(,)[]BS < 1415808441 351760 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 , 234 , 567 < 1415808444 700971 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1234567<-3co)<-<-',[]BS < 1415808444 883916 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 , 234 , 567 < 1415808479 593799 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1234567<-3CO)<-<-',[]BS < 1415808479 776706 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 123 , 234 , 345 , 456 , 567 < 1415809270 948096 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-197.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1415809370 90972 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's Touchdown for Philae < 1415809576 197689 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-197.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1415809914 305515 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you live on a comet? < 1415809914 489495 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: i fnord you for being able to exercise sigh < 1415810033 278880 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not too many exercise possibilities on comets, I guess. < 1415810087 172448 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-197.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1415810156 295910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hard part is not falling off while you do it < 1415810211 708060 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard harpoons work on comets. < 1415810228 322628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah there's some recent evidence. < 1415810443 344646 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys < 1415810458 455844 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LISP, FORTH, Bf, possibly Io... what am I missing here? < 1415810465 466213 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prolog has been suggested but I don't know < 1415810474 195539 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm writing an MMO similar to bfjoust < 1415810495 331523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: when reading the logs, i _was_ going to suggest underload until i saw you needed interactivity. < 1415810524 908201 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the brief summary is: There's a matrix of bytes (octets), you write a program that continuously traverses this matrix and finds other programs < 1415810533 587852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should just prod ais523 to finish underlambda, i guess. < 1415810556 163130 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: what are the requirements for the language? < 1415810556 705028 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what makes underload useful? < 1415810575 347599 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: simple to learn/parse syntax, libary-less semantics < 1415810578 563343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: i thought you wanted elegant and simple, not useful hth < 1415810588 996815 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :APL? < 1415810592 519585 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D then how about binary lambda calculus (BLC) ? < 1415810598 311492 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean... what makes underload elegant and simple? < 1415810608 858404 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: is that something that is easy to learn and parse? < 1415810624 252498 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was just an encoding for doing ski combinators < 1415810633 465463 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: see http://www.ioccc.org/2012/tromp/hint.html < 1415810645 253712 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's not SK based < 1415810661 910493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (It is )((very easy)*)^(S):!^ < 1415810662 94310 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is very easy < 1415810662 511000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload has simple semantics < 1415810666 569845 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can be parsed and interpreted in 29 bytes < 1415810670 791083 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i->it < 1415810671 488723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and an elegant concatenative paradigm < 1415810677 905 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this will be code that would be edited inside browsers BTW < 1415810704 667954 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game itself would have a fancy UI < 1415810709 164093 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and be web based < 1415810713 500586 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, blc is not suitable for writing code in directly:( < 1415810720 271961 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... < 1415810730 11501 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one sec I have some examples < 1415810774 787507 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download < 1415810783 716526 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of the programs would be equivalent: http://lpaste.net/114179 < 1415810785 813049 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it comes with a BLC assembler so maybe that is doable < 1415810795 19287 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's psuedo-code at the moment however < 1415810836 506349 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that ioccc link has an example program for reversing input that looks like "\a a ((\b b b) (\b \c \d \e d (b b) (\f f c e))) (\b \c c)" < 1415810848 35636 :Guest86977!~shikhin@120.57.224.239 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1415810868 141224 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1415811032 732050 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : I'm not really looking for hard-to-code-in or really-effing-abstract programming languages < 1415811041 505856 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I guess is what most esoterics are < 1415811045 160912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you're asking this channel? :p < 1415811053 220339 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... should've expected it < 1415811063 195955 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I know this channel would definitely be interested < 1415811076 424215 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BLC is both hard-to-code-in and really-effing-abstract :-( < 1415811096 556752 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as really simple:-) < 1415811140 550006 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D, I'm still inclined to suggest something APL-like, such as J < 1415811145 859496 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure how good at IO they are, though < 1415811191 195620 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah they don't need good IO < 1415811199 154483 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can just inject the stuff in-memory < 1415811204 876259 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or somethign < 1415811276 987300 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... J is actually quite interesting < 1415811296 995407 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it gets quite crazy fast < 1415811528 265965 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about some kind of lambda calculus thing? < 1415811532 837445 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not ski combinators but lambdas < 1415811538 572681 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and well... not lisp < 1415811543 989796 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download :) < 1415811545 8840 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something Haskell-y < 1415811558 126010 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what? < 1415811583 421820 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D, an esolang I made < 1415811607 544070 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the COBOL dialect of binary lambda calculus:) < 1415811611 654403 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has the ease-of-programming of binary lambda calculus with the terseness of COBOL! < 1415811614 377913 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1415811624 134414 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I meant it as a purely functional BIT) < 1415811646 51082 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In terms of semantics, other than IO it's identical to BLC < 1415811655 424215 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: what about a Haskell dialect of lambda calculus? < 1415811668 200679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's, uh, haskell < 1415811672 576893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or lambda calculus < 1415811675 175646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on what you mean < 1415811681 948775 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean like.... < 1415811685 193563 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything's a function < 1415811688 861476 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have lambdas < 1415811691 277911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda calculus? :p < 1415811697 476902 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah < 1415811700 365608 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, maybe with binding names? < 1415811702 288994 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you end up with hard to program < 1415811707 615379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: LC has name binding! < 1415811711 936635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\name -> body) defn < 1415811712 120496 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm looking for an existing LANGUAGE that models LC < 1415811722 797274 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, syntaxy binding names < 1415811726 893186 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell fits but haskell has other things < 1415811734 261018 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want something that is stricty LC < 1415811740 163710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda calculus is a language... < 1415811751 872645 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which could be a LISP but LISP has other things < 1415811762 376047 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: like there is a specific language named "lambda calculus" ? < 1415811770 325566 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: yes. < 1415811780 878224 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-.- < 1415811782 713277 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are actual implementations of pure lambda calculas. < 1415811784 910721 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :blc is just lambda calculus with the means to do IO < 1415811804 519278 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :got it < 1415811813 959582 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and written in binary:( < 1415811815 274918 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like... I could do peano numerals and all that? < 1415811815 485434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: the lambda calculus was one of the very first programming languages, really < 1415811819 863353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just wasn't thought of in that way originally < 1415811833 382832 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to define you numerals from scratch < 1415811837 145935 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1415811837 951076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since we didn't have computers to evaluate it yet < 1415811844 538899 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went through the CS lectures too ;) < 1415811854 647274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, you can write a lambda calculus evaluator in like half a page of haskell code, if that < 1415811857 950061 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the blc prime number generator doesn't even use a number representation < 1415811861 678231 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm talking about implementations though < 1415811875 479468 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there implementations of LC that do it properly and lazily and such < 1415811884 681598 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1415811891 414939 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :see that ioccc link < 1415811902 505399 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how would it be typesafe? < 1415811923 674211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: you hide the recursion behind a data type < 1415811926 451274 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be untyped < 1415811947 264538 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to enter IOCCC but I can never think of a good thing to write that isn't like, way too ambitious < 1415811954 395277 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but you'd still run into problems with GHC not letting you do recursively ambiguous types < 1415811957 416707 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1415811959 764226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: or just don't do it metacircularly < 1415811964 215075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what you mean by that < 1415811972 132809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype LC = LC (LC -> LC) -- this type models the lambda calculus, albeit uselessly < 1415811985 509643 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that compiles without warnings?! < 1415811990 521589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of coure < 1415811991 611794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :course < 1415811994 893858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data List a = Nil | Cons a (List a) < 1415811999 843726 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: what would the warning be? < 1415812002 692867 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you couldn't do much of anything without recursive types < 1415812024 810511 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: cannot determine type of this type < 1415812031 827106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, GHC's inliner does have a bug when you use this trick to implement the Y combinator directly, embarrassingly. I don't think it's that easy to trigger though. < 1415812051 228652 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: it's even inhabited < 1415812052 817857 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand recursive data structures, I'm not a noob to haskell < 1415812053 335627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in practice I'd just use newtype LC a = Var a | App (LC a) (LC a) | Lam (LC (Maybe a)). < 1415812069 429741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the type of LC is *. :p < 1415812076 889791 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a walk through for building a lambda-calculus language in Racket, with sample code: http://matt.might.net/articles/compiling-up-to-lambda-calculus/ < 1415812081 419150 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unlike things like newtype Foo = Foo Foo) < 1415812087 5710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: do you believe that newtype LC = LC (Int, LC) is a type? < 1415812095 42539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :inhabited by, for instance, x = LC (123, x) < 1415812097 588007 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sure, it's a comonad too < 1415812109 406445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: OK. do you believe that newtype LC = LC (Int -> LC) is a type? < 1415812113 674191 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1415812120 477980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype LC = LC (LC -> Int)? < 1415812141 996148 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype LC = LC (LC -> LC) is inhabited by LC id, for example. or LC (const (LC id)) < 1415812142 363574 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but wouldn't the problem rely when there aren't any other types that GHC can infer other than functions < 1415812150 565240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :inhabited by e.g. x = LC (\_ -> 123), y = LC (\(LC k) -> k (LC k) + 1) < 1415812159 286791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why < 1415812167 861856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you believe newtype LC = LC (LC, LC) is a type? < 1415812177 536424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, functions aren't really special here < 1415812195 12308 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :IN JUST OVER AN HOUR I WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO BECOME ONE STEP CLOSER TO ACHIEVING MY DREAM < 1415812198 274383 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it's a type, but I don't get why GHC doesn't throw a fit < 1415812198 664446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(okay, they are if you're trying to have a sound language like proof systems have to worry about, because of variance. but Haskell doesn't care about non-terminating programs) < 1415812199 208394 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or LC (\LC f -> LC (f . f)) -- which would be the Church numeral 2. < 1415812208 460713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I don't get why GHC would :) < 1415812214 609656 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm LC (\(LC f) -> LC (f . f)) < 1415812230 738508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: what about data LC = Foo | LC (LC -> LC)? < 1415812247 508252 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could see that as fine < 1415812249 671898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you have really boring inhabitants like Foo, LC (\_ -> Foo), LC (\case Foo -> Foo; LC _ -> LC (const Foo)) < 1415812262 461823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: okay, and you believe there are values of LC that completely ignore Foo? < 1415812271 255966 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1415812281 713092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's say they all, whenever they consume an LC, map Foo to undefiend and just extract the function out of the LC < 1415812284 709294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and let's say they never produce a Foo < 1415812287 311172 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, newtype LC = LC (LC -> LC) it's a perfectly good type. It's not even all that obvious that you cannot do anything useful with it. < 1415812291 550923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then do you believe we can just take Foo away? < 1415812307 745408 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1415812312 380325 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :from a types standpoint < 1415812316 833533 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a type it makes sense < 1415812319 37626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I agree, but I am actually interested in the reasoning here... to me I can understand balking at newtype LC = LC (LC, LC) < 1415812327 331822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can't quite understand accepting that but not (LC -> LC) < 1415812340 936514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(without some deeper kind of mumbling about being strictly positive) < 1415812346 167419 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because then you couldn't actually get the function to eval as a thunk without ! < 1415812361 160037 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I assume GHC would pick up on that < 1415812376 490238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what you mean by that < 1415812377 528975 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because GHC can get any useful data out of those functions so why bother? < 1415812385 237294 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: a type is all that it has to be for the compiler to accept it without complaining. < 1415812388 568414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you can't get useful data out of (() -> ()) either < 1415812390 671326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignoring _ < 1415812396 540310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ignoring _|_ (i.e. without ! or such) < 1415812396 872109 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1415812405 126501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you expect the compiler to reject (() -> ())...? < 1415812406 880134 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is it not complaining because it doesn't know? < 1415812414 812783 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect a warning about () -> () < 1415812418 293159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't. < 1415812433 615598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you expect a warning about (main :: IO ())? :p < 1415812437 478710 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: it's not complaining because there's nothing wrong < 1415812444 484705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :() -> () is isomorphic to () without _|_. < 1415812453 888710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't think () values should cause warnings then there's no reason for any of these to either < 1415812460 616699 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because with () -> () GHC will either assume it's unsafe, will bottom, or just never evaluate it < 1415812474 137548 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and those are warning-worthy to me < 1415812486 102241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\() -> ()) is a perfectly good value of type () -> () < 1415812491 281439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes you might actually need that < 1415812493 556370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider generic programming < 1415812503 617146 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you often fix type variables to () when you don't need to use the more advanced form of a function < 1415812506 522148 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fmap id (Right ()) < 1415812508 410221 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric : Right () < 1415812511 746159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then have to supply glue functionality like that to use the function < 1415812515 199854 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(() -> ()) only makes sense with "!" < 1415812520 505782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1415812532 310349 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then when would you ever use it? < 1415812546 143209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider thingy :: (a -> b) -> [(a,Int)] -> IntSetWith b < 1415812549 138481 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because there is only one inhabitant doesn't mean that a type useless. () is proof of that. < 1415812550 742921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pardon the ridiculousy data structure < 1415812557 631242 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is useless < 1415812561 939904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then (thingy id . map ((),)) :: [Int] -> IntSetWith () < 1415812572 79195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a contrived example. there are less contrived examples. < 1415812582 448514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this kind of thing does pop up frequently in polymorphic programming < 1415812597 329787 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's still kind of useless < 1415812603 327599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess "IntSetWith" is also known as "Map Int") < 1415812608 114996 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's there to fill an empty/unused gap < 1415812617 260386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's not useless. it's trivial. there's a difference < 1415812624 71166 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's unused < 1415812625 412406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if thingy is the API you get, this is a perfectly reasonable use of it < 1415812627 477647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's used. < 1415812639 977792 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :() is quite heavily used in Haskell < 1415812642 460512 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(() -> ()) means the function will either throw, bottom or do nothing < 1415812648 561813 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not talking about () < 1415812654 49292 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just talking about (() -> ()) < 1415812654 524989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you stop repeating yourself without addressing what I said? < 1415812658 692541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gave you some code that uses (() -> ()). < 1415812658 961381 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :() -> () will, usually, be just id. < 1415812675 804233 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which I guess is what you mean by "do nothing") < 1415812679 532519 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but that's to just fill types that you don't use < 1415812682 160883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: ok, I give you this API. mapFromList :: (a -> b) -> [(k,a)] -> Map k b < 1415812687 140937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: you want to write a function [Int] -> Map Int () < 1415812693 341151 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, there's value in such a function because it can be passed to higher-order functions < 1415812694 452003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't think Map Int () is a useful type, consider that it is exactly Set Int. < 1415812698 491913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: please write this function for me < 1415812701 993347 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (id *** succ) ((), 1) < 1415812703 877211 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric : ((),2) < 1415812710 468199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will find that you inevitably write a function (() -> ()) (it will be id) < 1415812722 693098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the compiler gave a warning for that it would be ridiculous. you're doing something perfectly reasonable with a perfectly reasonable API < 1415812723 997470 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\xs -> M.fromList (map ((),) xs) < 1415812730 464236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1415812733 734164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't get Data.Map. < 1415812737 631522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get mapFromList. it's a thought experiment. < 1415812742 76967 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1415812743 757121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretend it's MyFancyMap instead of Map if you'd rather. < 1415812761 666230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, in this case the API is pointlessly more complicated than fromList. But there are many legitimate situations where you want to do something like this.) < 1415812780 446324 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mapFromList (const ()) < 1415812786 326495 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something in that vein < 1415812793 737727 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t const () < 1415812794 714479 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric :b -> () < 1415812796 919145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data MyMap k a = Dummy < 1415812797 103079 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1415812798 835981 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1415812807 120369 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type Data.Map.fromSet -- hmm < 1415812808 151720 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric :(k -> a) -> S.Set k -> M.Map k a < 1415812813 287538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let mapFromList :: (a -> b) -> [(k,a)] -> MyMap k b; mapFromList = undefined < 1415812814 463909 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1415812823 712008 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type mapFromList (const ()) :: [Int] -> MyMap Int () < 1415812824 894478 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match type ‘(Int, a0)’ with ‘Int’ < 1415812825 78764 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: [Int] -> MyMap Int () < 1415812825 78866 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric : Actual type: [(Int, a0)] -> MyMap Int () < 1415812832 317424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type mapFromList (const ()) . map ((),) :: [Int] -> MyMap Int () < 1415812833 540304 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type ‘Int’ with actual type ‘()’ < 1415812833 724497 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the expression: () < 1415812833 724606 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of ‘map’, namely ‘((),)’ < 1415812838 315125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type mapFromList (const ()) . map (,()) :: [Int] -> MyMap Int () < 1415812839 462228 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Int] -> MyMap Int () < 1415812842 461745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: correct. I have bad news for you. < 1415812847 832122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know what the type of (const ()) in context is there? < 1415812852 460819 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :() -> () < 1415812856 14790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1415812864 176017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not useless. < 1415812866 951098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's doing exactly what you want. < 1415812870 343973 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's when you're doing polyfilling < 1415812880 369964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, I'm bored of this < 1415812882 757785 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :polywhat? < 1415812891 24330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :some web thing < 1415812892 84410 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm talking about when you do somethign where you could just use unit < 1415812903 962829 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's not what I mean by polyfilling < 1415812912 928671 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you use unit to substitute some unused type < 1415812964 31690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's the last thing I say before I let myself get sucked back into this in a few minutes: if you had your way GHC would produce thousands of spurious warnings on vast swathes of high-quality, idiomatic Haskell code that would only be worsened by trying to work around it. < 1415812972 953949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no problem. < 1415812988 36241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*I'll say < 1415812999 613134 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait... < 1415813011 965864 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in mapFromList (const ()) . map (,()) < 1415813017 829880 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :const () is Int -> () < 1415813026 648033 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but whatever < 1415813027 959010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong. < 1415813042 753368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \f -> mapFromList f . map (,()) < 1415813043 799033 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric :(() -> b) -> [k] -> MyMap k b < 1415813059 714829 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> mapFromList (const () :: Int -> ()) [1, 2, 3] < 1415813061 223416 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Show.Show (L.MyMap k0 ())) < 1415813061 443392 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘M389555805829656213922168.show_M3895558058296562139... < 1415813061 443542 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘e_1123’ < 1415813087 208649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :;t mapFromList (const () :: Int -> ()) < 1415813089 811220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t mapFromList (const () :: Int -> ()) < 1415813090 962676 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric :[(k, Int)] -> MyMap k () < 1415813098 788266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your job was to write [Int] -> MyMap Int () < 1415813101 875782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that < 1415813106 47470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t mapFromList (const () :: Int -> ()) . map (,()) < 1415813107 38721 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type ‘Int’ with actual type ‘()’ < 1415813107 222419 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the expression: () < 1415813107 222546 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of ‘map’, namely ‘(, ())’ < 1415813109 997121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t mapFromList (const () :: () -> ()) . map (,()) < 1415813110 942026 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric :[k] -> MyMap k () < 1415813128 4349 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :touche < 1415813139 519603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too old for bickering angrily on IRC like this. I should be too old for bickering on IRC like this, anyway... < 1415813142 443786 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is the dumbest person in this channel
< 1415813165 699836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: btw GHC uses GHC.Exts.Any rather than () to fill unused types hth < 1415813181 333020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt that, but I'm the most irritable, that's worse. < 1415813199 39293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry for ranting over something that doesn't matter. < 1415813233 140438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to say fungot probably is but that's just mean. fungot has made more sense than people in this channel before < 1415813233 331845 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: seeing she was like that's ' cause we especially kids watching the news because you never know < 1415813261 481696 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: The harpoons never fired? < 1415813275 673752 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is fungot ? < 1415813275 862284 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: yeah exactly and if pays good then it's all right it's okay for adults too you probably wouldn't be the best way to find out < 1415813293 326055 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1415813296 942951 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1415813297 126985 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: and it seems like some kids a lot better it's a lot of < 1415813299 176932 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I see < 1415813325 887142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1415813326 71054 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/fungot.b98 < 1415813327 500912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1415813327 684965 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher* fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1415813330 593001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style irc < 1415813330 815271 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: irc (IRC logs of freenode/#esoteric, freenode/#scheme and ircnet/#douglasadams) < 1415813331 462370 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot fungot < 1415813331 883674 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: that would be first-class, and they need to raise our hopes too high, yes. < 1415813333 159449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: be more coherent < 1415813333 550983 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: see: unicode!?! :p) then performed operations on it, it's not a < 1415813338 414948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you can do bette than this < 1415813338 598676 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: lambda the ultimate < 1415813340 919178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1415813342 874003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*better < 1415813348 591987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote elliott: lambda the ultimate < 1415813348 775972 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: interfaces should never ask to save < 1415813350 353160 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1223) elliott: lambda the ultimate < 1415813448 840967 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You hypocri-bot with your ^save command. < 1415813449 25020 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the only difference between proper lists dotted lists is the wrong way < 1415813461 296546 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deep. < 1415813482 841159 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^yoda fungot < 1415813492 264863 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cries* < 1415813499 697728 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fungot" < 1415813499 927806 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: matthew integrated that fix, but i < 1415813508 685088 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fungot" < 1415813508 868925 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: since people get to take 6.001. i realized that < 1415813514 575698 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fungot" < 1415813514 958156 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: translates ' good night' to people and sympathize with them. these were designed in. from what i understand < 1415813524 383290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 1223 < 1415813526 258528 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* elliott: lambda the ultimate < 1415813527 220047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it lost its charm < 1415814063 328047 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote I thought that was < 1415814064 95451 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :938) did you know that likes follow you around the internet and steal your browser? I thought that was Phantom_Hoover < 1415814080 433352 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, I'm a narcissist < 1415814085 55291 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last night I made a pun. < 1415814102 399 :DTSCode!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1415814121 86575 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, I'm getting anxious, I'm gonna go for a walk < 1415814180 52637 :DTSCode!~DTSCode@unaffiliated/dtscode JOIN :#esoteric < 1415815325 84428 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1415815597 774162 :augur!~augur@206-196-184-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1415817999 170372 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1415818412 165615 :augur!~augur@206-196-184-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1415818425 888951 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lpaste.net/114191 < 1415818433 770153 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :bubble sort in i ment what i sed < 1415818483 587195 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lpaste.net/114192 < 1415818785 641126 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i guess /// is better than this! < 1415818867 973784 :augur!~augur@206-196-184-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1415819203 651132 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi augur < 1415819367 778027 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg its augur < 1415819379 485557 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itz augur guys < 1415819383 696781 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :look see < 1415819528 311876 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1415819947 32252 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1415819993 548289 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1415820094 232237 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PART :#esoteric < 1415820106 67117 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1415820185 406858 :augur!~augur@206-196-184-33.wireless.umd.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: hey < 1415820188 53074 :augur!~augur@206-196-184-33.wireless.umd.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you doing here < 1415820241 83779 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made an esolang but /// is better < 1415820576 526525 :augur!~augur@206-196-184-33.wireless.umd.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: whyd you make an esolang? < 1415820578 697043 :augur!~augur@206-196-184-33.wireless.umd.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what kind is it? < 1415820621 273384 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lpaste.net/114191 http://lpaste.net/114192 < 1415820634 824748 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i couldnt sleep :S < 1415820979 826389 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1415821054 626958 :heroux!sandroco@50708355.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1415821143 9904 :heroux!sandroco@50708355.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1415821269 933523 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: #jsoftware is the irc channel < 1415821453 453700 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx; b_jonas, i suggest Taneb tries his APL questions there < 1415822444 483851 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any language which distinguishes the first-person plural when it does or does not include the addressee of the conversation as well? < 1415822451 865570 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :("we" vs. "we and you", basically) < 1415822588 62904 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-000-123.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, very many. < 1415822628 90430 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-000-123.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s called “clusivity” (inclusive vs. exclusive (of the second person)). < 1415823426 179697 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1415823550 639055 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ATZ14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40906&oldid=40894 5* 03199.254.2.56 5* (+7) 10 < 1415823643 315799 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ATZ14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40907&oldid=40906 5* 03199.254.2.56 5* (-7) 10 < 1415823775 572550 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat114.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1415824232 869038 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1415824391 261982 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1415824506 228725 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1415825482 286061 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1415825503 727850 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsQ %:"age" 19 "money" 1000V < 1415825504 245663 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1000 < 1415825508 654715 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1415825510 754411 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1415825539 160132 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsQ %:0"age" 19 "money" 1000V < 1415825539 391359 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : <"age",19><"money",1000> < 1415825544 435747 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1415825629 270770 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsQ nm19"age"mi < 1415825629 566519 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : <"age",19> < 1415825643 907958 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ^- maps < 1415825671 315075 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsQ %p=%:0"age"19V < 1415825671 563111 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : No output! < 1415825675 777103 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsQ %p=%:0"age"19V%p? < 1415825676 22839 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : <"age",19> < 1415825704 965978 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty cool huh < 1415825709 311327 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1415825781 164539 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: mutable maps? < 1415825787 329150 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1415825790 817408 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: are those variables? < 1415825802 809699 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :%p is a variable < 1415825812 520531 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1415825818 580979 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :great! < 1415825826 820340 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsQ %foo=9 %foo? %foo? ?* < 1415825827 235756 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 81 < 1415825845 793635 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsQ %square{^^?*} 9 %square! < 1415825846 167561 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: Burlesque: (e!) Invalid arguments! < 1415825851 173463 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsQ %square={^^?*} 9 %square! < 1415825851 536737 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 81 < 1415825858 101100 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :%foo= is an assignment < 1415825862 477733 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :%foo? is a "get" < 1415825868 716844 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and %foo! is a "call" < 1415825876 683646 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and %: is a map < 1415825890 784918 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsQ %m=%:0%:0 9 9V8V < 1415825891 146941 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : No output! < 1415825895 308666 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsQ %m=%:0%:0 9 9V8V%m? < 1415825895 753199 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : <<9,9>,8> < 1415825904 519612 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a map with a map as a key < 1415825924 969953 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :%:0 9 8V creates a map with key 9 and value 8 < 1415825935 33564 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 0 is the "default" value returned by lookups if no value was found < 1415825943 353234 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsQ %:0 1 2 3 4 5 6V < 1415825943 711225 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : <1,2><3,4><5,6> < 1415825953 927414 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsQ %:0 1 2 3 4 5 6V8 7mi < 1415825954 286235 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : <1,2><3,4><5,6><7,8> < 1415826030 160734 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1415826195 544733 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means you can also do recursion < 1415826203 279022 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsQ %q={%q!}%q! < 1415826203 692228 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! < 1415826205 144679 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Voidpigeon 5* 10New user account < 1415826224 760179 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat114.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1415826240 406565 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat114.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1415826298 13739 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40908&oldid=40892 5* 03Voidpigeon 5* (-588) 10moving atz < 1415826318 658212 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Joke language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40909&oldid=39056 5* 03Voidpigeon 5* (+589) 10moved atz < 1415826540 230927 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:ATZ14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=40910 5* 03Voidpigeon 5* (+181) 10Created page with "==Documentation== On [[Talk:Joke_language_list|the joke language list]], it says that documentation is said to be released upon request. This is a request to see the document..." < 1415826752 660550 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-000-123.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah, this newsthing spends a paragraph on describing the stink of the landed-on comet. < 1415826758 386249 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsQ %q={%q={}%q!}%q! < 1415826758 826528 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : No output! < 1415826766 8129 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsQ %q={%q={9}%q!}%q! < 1415826766 343700 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9 < 1415826983 910774 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsQ %q={%q={9 8"q"sv}%q!}%q! < 1415826984 323184 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9 < 1415826991 40789 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsQ %q={%q={9 "q"8sv}%q!}%q! < 1415826991 395925 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9 < 1415827002 687284 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsQ 9"abc"sv < 1415827003 136599 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : No output! < 1415827005 636096 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsQ 9"abc"sv"abc"gv < 1415827005 939090 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9 < 1415827036 363517 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsQ %q={9"q"sv%q?}%q! < 1415827036 692205 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9 < 1415827053 720521 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsQ %0=9 < 1415827053 905013 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : No output! < 1415827067 135200 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsQ {5 5?+}s0%0! < 1415827067 504840 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10 < 1415827088 764280 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : ERROR: (line 1, column 25): < 1415827096 5430 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : Any questions? No? Good. < 1415827100 435687 :blsqbot2!~blsqbot2@212-242.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1415827536 440527 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat114.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1415828221 922354 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat106.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1415828376 62 :augur!~augur@206-196-184-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1415828402 383419 :augur!~augur@206-196-184-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1415828510 689786 :S1!~S1@p4FF93B7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1415828560 838697 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Joke language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40911&oldid=40909 5* 0370.211.156.73 5* (-589) 10/* ATZ */ < 1415828588 897314 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1415828610 787800 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1415828616 949436 :augur!~augur@206-196-184-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1415828902 690021 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1415828931 744162 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1415829148 566055 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1415829170 614694 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1415829377 699759 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1415829407 677986 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1415829498 701333 :augur!~augur@206-196-184-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1415829719 444343 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1415829740 765882 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1415829773 859989 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1415829802 840757 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1415829822 279480 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Container14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=40912 5* 03Por gammer 5* (+1929) 10Created page with ""Container" is an esoteric programming language created by the user [[user:Por Gammer]]. The language models a finite set of nonnegative integers (denominated "containers") th..." < 1415829859 328516 :augur!~augur@206-196-184-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1415830061 551341 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1415830082 632883 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1415830335 55591 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Dimensions There isn't an implementation for this language, is there < 1415830415 125775 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it didn't seem to have existed at all before the 8th of november < 1415830419 415645 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose there isn't one < 1415830458 708705 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine it needs to be implemented in some sort of sparse manner < 1415830459 228956 :S1!~S1@p4FF93B7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to see one, too < 1415830582 834420 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat106.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is n-funge... < 1415830610 961629 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you constrain yourself to just two cells in every direction, that's 2^52 cells < 1415830625 523148 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have that much RAM < 1415830628 210784 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat106.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem of dimensionality, they call it. < 1415830647 215251 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The curse of dimensionality < 1415830652 100288 :S1!~S1@p4FF93B7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :as if it was allocated all at once < 1415830666 77259 :S1!~S1@p4FF93B7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicyclidine: n-funge is not listed on esolang wiki, is it? < 1415830701 490210 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat106.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mentioned in the befunge article < 1415830729 597637 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat106.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's not a lot to specify, really, just add one instruction for arbitrary velocity and then two for each dimension < 1415830814 784526 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://sbjoshi.wordpress.com/2013/03/27/paradox-about-high-dimensional-spheres/ High-dimensional stuff is weird < 1415830818 994142 :S1!~S1@p4FF93B7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicyclidine: this one? http://esolangs.org/wiki/Fungeoid < 1415830831 259171 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat106.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, http://esolangs.org/wiki/Befunge < 1415830848 103296 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat106.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The closest relative, and most direct extension, of Befunge-93 is Befunge-98 of the Funge-98 family of languages. Each Funge extends the central concepts of Befunge to a given number of dimensions (for example, Unefunge is one-dimensional, Trefunge is three-dimensional, Nefunge is n-dimensional, etc.). " < 1415830848 287413 :S1!~S1@p4FF93B7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant the n-funge one < 1415830864 852579 :S1!~S1@p4FF93B7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1415830880 957963 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1110/1110.2832.pdf this is a succint abstract < 1415831096 723560 :S1!~S1@p4FF93B7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The paradox is cool < 1415831191 287499 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unefunge and Trefunge are specified in spec98 (in addition to Befunge-98) < 1415832658 187126 :S1!~S1@p4FF93B7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Hello World example in 'Dimensions' is so lame < 1415832684 534921 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1415832690 73506 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1415832751 994613 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat106.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1415832787 454822 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1415832799 76559 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-148.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1415832892 856091 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1415833062 241703 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1415833371 891093 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1415833402 752905 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat102.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1415833784 100377 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1415833787 870399 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1415833857 403958 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1415833865 677690 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1415833926 725484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1415834011 528952 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1415834200 666299 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one here's talking about .NET? < 1415834230 571500 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are, for one. < 1415834232 495012 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know a lot about .NET < 1415834235 169454 :S1!~S1@p4FF93B7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a language < 1415834261 940187 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :.нет < 1415834270 632961 :S1!~S1@p4FF93B7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :russian .net? < 1415834275 609420 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat102.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1415834318 39505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicyclidine: but .no is norway < 1415834392 958690 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote cross-platform < 1415834393 651805 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1415834397 425663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily keeps asking, but people respond with neither coördinates norway < 1415834401 129802 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote sgeo < 1415834401 689504 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :50) What else is there to vim besides editing commands? \ 63) Where's the link to the log? THERE'S NO LOG. YOUR REQUEST IS SUSPICIOUS AND HAS BEEN LOGGED. \ 93) And... WTF is it doing. :( Is it sexing? \ 102) what's the data of? [...] Locations in a now deceased game called Mutat < 1415834413 266125 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote microsoft < 1415834413 849269 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :116) Why shouldn't I just do everything in non-Microsoft-specific C#? it's like trying to write non-IE-specific JavaScript with only Microsoft documentation and only IE to test on \ 247) * Received a CTCP VERSION from nyuszika7h * VERSION Microsoft IRC# 2011 64-bit (Windows 8 Beta, x64, 2GB RAM) Gregor: Windows 8 Be < 1415834421 664490 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :116 no longer applicable? < 1415834453 237300 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat102.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's optimistic. < 1415834477 164703 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1415834480 233525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even a swat :'( < 1415834505 546588 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm cautiously optimistic about open .NET. < 1415834619 16363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: your pun israelly bad but doesn't deserve a swat < 1415834668 119904 :S1!~S1@p4FF93B7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION snorts :|
< 1415834758 71799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :S1: when it comes to puns, i'm german < 1415834772 34606 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat102.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it comes to puns, i'm luxembourgish < 1415834786 327132 :S1!~S1@p4FF93B7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ;) < 1415835147 337930 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 247 < 1415835147 994147 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :247) * Received a CTCP VERSION from nyuszika7h * VERSION Microsoft IRC# 2011 64-bit (Windows 8 Beta, x64, 2GB RAM) Gregor: Windows 8 Beta? o_O A small benefit of my brief time as an intern at MS. < 1415835155 280479 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what do i gotta do to fuel my swat masochism < 1415835187 406398 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that quote is a bit dated < 1415835191 590573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you could join a swat team < 1415835206 846359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, nyuszika7h has been here before? < 1415835210 426784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my memory is slipping < 1415835225 162970 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fascinating! < 1415835267 484862 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: have you been good today? < 1415835292 354856 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botspark < 1415835292 538830 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a00:d880:3:1::623f:813d PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1415835777 935936 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1415835785 588345 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh Agatha has a hard time second-guessing herself, but at least she's trying :) < 1415835860 401126 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also we've seen a pile of metal that needs scrapping fairly recently. The possibilities! < 1415836064 582459 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1415836227 883035 :S1!~S1@p4FF93B7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1415836256 495981 :S1!~S1@p4FF93B7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1415836663 972600 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric