< 1416269142 517422 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat102.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1416269328 823631 :heroux!~heroux@50708355.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1416269880 965286 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat106.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1416270857 676462 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416270914 184692 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416270920 814174 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: Ogonek is used in other languages < 1416270934 398274 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not just Polish < 1416270938 322345 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The name came from Polish though < 1416271066 941630 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416271487 434105 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Yes, I know, I realize I kinda swallowed that. < 1416271878 637462 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1416272017 432495 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's ok < 1416272034 543815 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Romanian has a weird comma thing < 1416272104 817246 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhself < 1416272133 219473 :shikhself!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1416272237 704247 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ȘȚ < 1416272238 286805 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0218 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER S WITH COMMA BELOW] [U+021A LATIN CAPITAL LETTER T WITH COMMA BELOW] < 1416272239 450382 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416272292 978808 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ĢĶĻŅ also have commas, but < 1416272300 762189 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ĢĶĻŅ < 1416272301 361670 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0122 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER G WITH CEDILLA] [U+0136 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER K WITH CEDILLA] [U+013B LATIN CAPITAL LETTER L WITH CEDILLA] [U+0145 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER N WITH CEDILLA] < 1416272329 363083 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The unicode names are “wrong” on this. < 1416272339 563384 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode Ŗ < 1416272340 104649 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0156 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER R WITH CEDILLA] < 1416272345 445779 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one too. < 1416272377 260503 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416272421 441691 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode < 1416272422 13305 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1416272423 345307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C WITH CEDILLA < 1416272423 920848 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Ç < 1416272433 36855 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION expected something like [U+0000 ]
< 1416272461 581740 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode  < 1416272462 964357 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+000F \ UTF-8: 0f UTF-16BE: 000f Decimal:  \  \ Category: Cc (Other, Control) \ Bidi: BN (Boundary Neutral) < 1416272463 108014 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ohwell. < 1416272463 871001 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1416272469 653749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C WITH COMMA BELOW < 1416272470 427105 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1416272471 896178 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1416272502 318146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: it seems to me that you have color codes in that? < 1416272514 27716 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat106.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1416272616 863451 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah < 1416272630 296500 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ďď < 1416272630 839420 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+010F LATIN SMALL LETTER D WITH CARON] [U+0064 LATIN SMALL LETTER D] [U+030C COMBINING CARON] < 1416272634 208004 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are no official names for controls ("", if you prefer that) < 1416272640 508395 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I wanted to test that < 1416272724 90041 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode  < 1416272724 907660 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0002 \ UTF-8: 02 UTF-16BE: 0002 Decimal:  \  \ Category: Cc (Other, Control) \ Bidi: BN (Boundary Neutral) < 1416272753 145810 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably just uses UnicodeData.txt? < 1416272758 598343 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly. < 1416272795 76545 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/unidecode < 1416272795 733292 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ import os, sys \ import unicodedata \ s = u" ".join("[U+{0:04X} {1}]".format(ord(c), unicodedata.name(c, "DUNNO")) for c in " ".join(sys.argv[1:]).decode("utf-8")).encode("utf-8") \ if u"DUNNO" in s: \ os.execvp("multicode", ["multicode"] + sys.argv[1:]) \ else: \ print s < 1416272807 364273 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, indirectly < 1416272827 591220 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a fallback mechanism < 1416272899 102157 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ďď above gets the default treatment, while FireFly's 0002 goes via the fallback < 1416272944 629330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which multicode < 1416272945 71485 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/multicode < 1416272953 816946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/multicode < 1416272954 292621 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/python \ \ \ import os, glob, sys, unicodedata, locale, gzip, re, traceback, encodings \ import urllib, webbrowser, textwrap \ \ # bz2 was introduced in 2.3, we want this to work also with earlier versions \ try: \ import bz2 \ except ImportError: \ bz2 = None \ \ # for python3 \ try: \ unicode \ except NameError: \ < 1416272980 688890 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was just a matter of whether you supply only one or multiple characters < 1416272991 99172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1416272994 669917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode a < 1416272995 255389 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A] < 1416273014 386966 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`multicode a < 1416273015 133661 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A \ UTF-8: 61 UTF-16BE: 0061 Decimal: a \ a (A) \ Uppercase: U+0041 \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) < 1416273017 594905 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1416273078 720465 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1416273215 50189 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`multicode ac < 1416273215 764193 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A \ UTF-8: 61 UTF-16BE: 0061 Decimal: a \ a (A) \ Uppercase: U+0041 \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+0002 \ UTF-8: 02 UTF-16BE: 0002 Decimal:  \  \ Category: Cc (Other, Control) \ Bidi: BN (Boundary Neutral) \ \ U+0063 LATIN SMALL LETTER C \ UTF-8: 63 UTF-16BE: 00 < 1416273733 108877 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does one go about hardening light? < 1416273969 328188 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know? < 1416274072 373305 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Limestone impurities < 1416274125 272169 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm? What about limestone < 1416274448 676733 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear light is a wave < 1416274606 874884 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S41/10/73O28/index.xml?section=topstories < 1416274628 956436 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idk if it's true or not but you decide < 1416274675 539253 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1416274755 326070 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1416274852 937125 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://journals.aps.org/prx/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevX.4.031043 gee < 1416275036 623857 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wiz < 1416276211 485183 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1416276233 271123 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416276377 853336 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dulnes, limestone is how you make water hard < 1416276400 421250 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416276638 594188 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416276712 847579 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416276740 920901 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net NICK :Guest97875 < 1416276847 262992 :Guest97875!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Changing host < 1416276847 448536 :Guest97875!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1416276866 698501 :Guest97875!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem NICK :Sprocklem < 1416276995 148926 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1416277174 765251 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1416277517 665595 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416277518 807924 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 💩 < 1416277519 647456 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F4A9 PILE OF POO \ UTF-8: f0 9f 92 a9 UTF-16BE: d83ddca9 Decimal: 💩 \ 💩 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1416278360 468060 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1416278660 244261 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.94.225 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1416280493 288671 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@2602:30a:c021:220:886e:ce4c:4141:a72 JOIN :#esoteric < 1416282136 87591 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1416282924 556303 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: well yeah < 1416282935 616558 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what about it < 1416283178 776437 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1416283194 524801 :MoALTz_!~no@user-31-174-118-58.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1416283375 349223 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-118-58.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1416285767 83896 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-50defd-78.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416286530 152873 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1416286765 448437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1416288780 24506 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-50defd-78.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1416290538 296830 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1416290901 265940 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-50defd-78.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416291111 360960 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416291205 184248 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-50defd-78.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1416291243 231522 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Again, he lost before he could pick his last remaining side card. How common is such a thing? < 1416291673 301795 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean he ran out of cards.) < 1416291769 727492 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh. "only". "Mark Zuckerberg estimated earlier this year that the company’s U.S. users spend a total of nine hours a day on digital media, but only 40 minutes of that on Facebook." < 1416291965 562914 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: What company is that? How was the data estimated? < 1416291993 466796 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea. < 1416292017 710545 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reading about "Facebook at Work", and I'm appalled at the idea. < 1416292063 219444 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The initial article I read about it said it would use "the familiar Facebook interface" and to me there is no such thing.) < 1416292072 286205 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@2602:30a:c021:220:886e:ce4c:4141:a72 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416292112 1541 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1416292341 588509 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Actually Facebook will have hard numbers on that (the statement is about their users), with some errors because just because a browser tab is visible doesn't mean anybody is using it, and because some of the people with US IPs are not actually in the US. < 1416292546 281106 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-118-58.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1416292585 852492 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the biggest issue I have with Facebook is that they make Google look like the good guys. < 1416292615 224372 :MoALTz_!~no@user-31-174-118-58.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1416293415 87191 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fromroman XXIV < 1416293415 678872 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :24 < 1416293602 258795 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fromroman XIX < 1416293602 775847 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :19 < 1416293603 811142 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fromroman XXI < 1416293605 87859 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :21 < 1416293625 996026 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1416293695 439091 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess fungot would know... < 1416294910 511497 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Pics or it didn't happen < 1416295479 315490 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1416295758 172273 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416295769 316540 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1416295876 451496 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rpwhhmkbwdyufusb QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1416298830 877921 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1416299152 402256 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@cadoth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`toroman 42 < 1416299152 993714 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XLII < 1416299157 762916 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@cadoth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`toroman 4000 < 1416299158 307489 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MD < 1416299174 860983 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@cadoth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`toroman 9999 < 1416299175 368177 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MMCMXCIX < 1416299210 495149 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@cadoth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1416299212 105814 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@cadoth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`toroman 0 < 1416299212 640794 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1416299271 669534 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`toroman 9.3 < 1416299272 109545 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IX < 1416299275 584289 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`toroman -7 < 1416299276 32143 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VII < 1416299283 698146 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`toroman 31415 < 1416299284 180636 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MMMMCDXV < 1416299291 791892 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, what. < 1416299304 917341 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`toroman 999999999 < 1416299305 464132 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MMMMMMMMMMMMCMXCIX < 1416299341 816234 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`toroman 2^(2^22) < 1416299342 376800 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :II < 1416299396 122581 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The MD for 4000 was quite suspicious too. < 1416299781 643955 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`toroman 3000 < 1416299782 130876 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MMM < 1416299786 902015 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`toroman 3999 < 1416299787 377380 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MMMCMXCIX < 1416299799 974548 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`toroman 3444 < 1416299800 551314 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MMMCDXLIV < 1416299941 424449 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to make error diffusion without "ghost images" appearing? < 1416300186 191712 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose one should not distribute errors across edges in the image, but how to implement that, I don't know. < 1416300213 573107 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gimp has a "reduced color bleeding" Floyd-Steinberg mode, but I'm not entirely sure what it does. < 1416300238 397198 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I vaguely remember something about scanning every other line left-to-right and every other right-to-left, but I'm not sure what sort of artefacts that is supposed to reduce. < 1416300446 543329 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could apply some general image segmentation algorithm (to the original or the quantized form), and then do color conversion and dithering within each segment, but I wouldn't be surprised if all that accomplishes would be to just make segmentation errors be visible as artefacts. < 1416300582 707113 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of something else to try let's see how well it works. < 1416300672 666072 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, what I tried doesn't work. < 1416301311 575571 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am getting "ghost images" which are pretty far away from the original and have a similar shape. < 1416301458 615459 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1416301474 691768 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1416301595 149171 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.80.200 JOIN :#esoteric < 1416301612 910100 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I found the mistake now. < 1416301630 934779 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you distribute the error among neighbouring pixels? I don't see this happening... < 1416301686 434028 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fixed it; the mistake was in a different calculation. < 1416301708 12070 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, good. < 1416304460 211217 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.85.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1416304618 192395 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.80.200 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1416305559 472894 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1416305647 231250 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1416308432 985542 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1416309213 799228 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1416310331 805982 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1416310543 732012 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1416310832 950897 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tomroman 8 < 1416310833 409278 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: tomroman: not found < 1416313132 753557 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't segment “tomroman”. Is it “Thomas Roman”, or “to mroman”? < 1416313166 177395 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`toroman 8 < 1416313166 670507 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VIII < 1416313254 459589 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks b_jonas < 1416313254 893980 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, b_jonas. Thonas. < 1416313331 425318 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fromroman VIII < 1416313333 53399 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 < 1416313334 508953 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fromroman VIIII < 1416313335 17896 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1416313425 62975 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's "To Mr. Oman" < 1416313508 569533 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmpsfxtxkopnouvy JOIN :#esoteric < 1416313519 209801 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.85.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, nearly done with the MNNBFSL interpreter in Burlesque < 1416313534 298723 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: EMULSIFIED CHICKEN < 1416313637 971011 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.85.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally when i'm figuring out how to simulate variables and functions in burlesque, you add them. < 1416313823 86748 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.85.186 NICK :AndoDaan < 1416313852 759124 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: usually you just keep a list somewhere laying around and use DimAccess or DimSet < 1416313865 420818 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or BlockAccess and setat < 1416313891 481299 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other approach is to translate the input program to Burlesque and then eval it < 1416313895 361442 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly a combination of both. < 1416313902 109799 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.85.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did the same. but... < 1416314015 71009 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.85.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm figuring if you have an array with something like {{"a"vv 3} {"add2"vv 2+.}} you can search for "add2" and evauate the block it's in. < 1416314228 757789 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.85.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, it was a fun puzzle. < 1416314250 440683 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's cn which does exactly that btw. < 1416314259 826483 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... not exactly that but similar < 1416314278 275339 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.85.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You think Anarchy Golf will update when you're done upgrading? < 1416314293 211021 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 9"a"{{"a"==} {vv?*}}cn < 1416314293 720554 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {vv ?*} < 1416314293 864305 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 9 < 1416314296 367160 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 9"a"{{"a"==} {vv?*}}cne! < 1416314296 584911 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Burlesque: (.*) Invalid arguments! < 1416314305 370637 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 9"a"{{"a"==} {vvS[}}cne! < 1416314305 620171 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Burlesque: (S[) Invalid arguments! < 1416314311 586419 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 9"a"{{"a"==} {vv^^?*}}cne! < 1416314311 787085 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Burlesque: (.*) Invalid arguments! < 1416314311 930275 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Burlesque: (^^) Stack size error! < 1416314314 974380 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 9"a"{{"a"==} {vv^^?*}}cne! < 1416314315 190311 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Burlesque: (.*) Invalid arguments! < 1416314315 333498 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Burlesque: (^^) Stack size error! < 1416314315 611266 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1416314318 504857 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 9"a"{{"a"==} {vv^^?*}}cn < 1416314318 689709 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {vv ^^ ?*} < 1416314318 832620 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 9 < 1416314329 403557 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 9"a"{{"a"==} {^^?*}}cne! < 1416314329 650833 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 81 < 1416314333 651270 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.85.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using cn for the MNNBFSL instructions < 1416314346 926126 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 9"b"{{"a"==} {^^?*} {"b"==} {^^?*^^?*}cne! < 1416314347 127974 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: (line 1, column 43): < 1416314347 271243 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | unexpected end of input < 1416314347 271433 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | expecting "%", "g", "s", "S", "m{", "q", "{", "\"", "-", digit, "'", "(", "y" or "}" < 1416314353 103054 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 9"b"{{"a"==} {^^?*} {"b"==} {^^?*^^?*}}cne! < 1416314353 323799 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 6561 < 1416314444 737382 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.85.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/iSXH9GtN < 1416314506 726886 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.85.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still missing the while condition, and will be reduced some what, but that's what it's shaping up to be. < 1416314632 835110 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :line 13 looks like a syntax error < 1416314733 120431 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.85.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fat pinky. fixed http://codepad.org/Y1WCJjFj < 1416314983 238883 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fat pinky? < 1416315004 467406 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.85.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :p is close to { on my keyboard. < 1416315087 796802 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.85.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the constant {PP ... Pp}e! doesn't help with the muscle memory. < 1416315228 611211 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.85.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gonna finish it up later todayor tomorrow. I just wanted to say it was fun. Thanks for suggesting it. < 1416315239 187381 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.85.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gtg cya < 1416315244 640873 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.85.186 QUIT :Quit: Sleep? What is sleep? < 1416315363 988195 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a weird keyboard. < 1416315383 405945 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everybody knows P is not even close to { < 1416315671 597666 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :p is right below } (altgr-0) here. < 1416315798 408799 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1416315848 648547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :12.5 gigabytes of swap used is not a good statistic... < 1416316057 427682 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1416316376 831909 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :P would be close to { if I didn't use dvorak < 1416316665 921066 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dvop{k. < 1416317609 26916 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Exactly. But who the hell doesn't use Dvorak. < 1416319372 327494 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't find any reasonable statistics quickly, but I'd wager a guess that several people. < 1416319420 443784 :S1!~S1@p4FF92DD0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1416319521 218915 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :While looking for said statistics, though, I did find incontrovertible proof that learning Dvorak makes you smart: "-- I could almost feel my synapses firing faster and new neuron connections being made. I felt like I got a turbo boost to my IQ during that period where I thought fast, was more creative and just generally sharper." < 1416319631 152482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like the results people report for trepanning < 1416319689 436840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read a great webpage once that was like [pages of description of how he got a buddy to drill into his skull] [hyperbolic praise over how amazing he feels in the immediate aftermath and how great an idea it was] [pause] [entry admitting that the gains didn't last and probably never existed that much and that he regrets doing it] < 1416319707 467991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry about the hole in your head, dude < 1416319786 172318 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds vaguely familiar. (And also a bit more extreme than typing with a different layout.) < 1416319868 843247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :look, the Keyboard Fascists will never get me to trepannify myself < 1416320314 28932 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@2602:30a:c021:220:d827:881e:d52c:6874 JOIN :#esoteric < 1416320718 719503 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1416321403 451219 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@2602:30a:c021:220:d827:881e:d52c:6874 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416322263 493149 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@172-2-16-34.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416322309 887990 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@172-2-16-34.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416323337 796555 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1416325311 664727 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like a good webpage < 1416325581 237174 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scheme in Arabic. https://github.com/nasser/--- < 1416326320 657949 :hubs!~hubs@207.253.1.137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1416326333 906477 :S1!~S1@p4FF92DD0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de NICK :S0 < 1416326476 954777 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmpsfxtxkopnouvy QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1416326503 554564 :hubs!~hubs@207.253.1.137 QUIT :Quit: hubs < 1416326653 646750 :S0!~S1@p4FF92DD0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de NICK :S1 < 1416327197 852754 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ocdyemkfvsjyuywz JOIN :#esoteric < 1416328218 117802 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode --- < 1416328218 670263 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+002D HYPHEN-MINUS] [U+002D HYPHEN-MINUS] [U+002D HYPHEN-MINUS] < 1416328247 632681 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does github not allow arabic repositories or something? < 1416328464 315004 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe because the reponames are used as default directory names? < 1416328503 630183 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure i have a couple folders named in cyrillic < 1416328524 778373 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: I’m not sure how you mean that would affect it. < 1416328573 940939 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know the state of support for unicode filenames in various OSes. < 1416328588 280218 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw2-50de97-172.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps they default to 'ascii safe' names for them. < 1416328649 407753 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ؟ < 1416328650 4441 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+061F ARABIC QUESTION MARK] < 1416328798 647935 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416328910 501830 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :“first:hrf rest:(hrf / [٠١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩] / '-' / '؟' / 'ـ' )* space?” ← This line looks very funny with proper bidi layout. < 1416328927 222056 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that phoenician < 1416328967 824415 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. numerals. not used to those. < 1416328980 675866 :S1!~S1@p4FF92DD0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: S1 < 1416329087 698358 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, of that line, “٠١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩] / '-' / '؟' / 'ـ” is right-to-left (including mirroring the ‘]’), and then “٠١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩” is a left-to-right subchunk because that’s what arabic does with numerals. < 1416329196 548506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: do you have an, uh, reference rendering of that line < 1416329254 420115 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could screenshot it from my browser … it’s at https://github.com/nasser/---/blob/master/peg/qlb.peg under “symbol =”. < 1416329277 893616 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. the [ ends up next to the underscore for me. < 1416329292 179299 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thaaaaat's probably not right < 1416329313 640901 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s not an underscore. < 1416329350 545918 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s next to the opening [ because it’s the last thing in the right-to-left chunk. < 1416329380 542353 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ـ < 1416329381 88836 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0640 ARABIC TATWEEL] < 1416329441 688602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: I was just curious as to whether my terminal is doing it correctly. < 1416329538 861351 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1416329724 203192 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1416329768 61679 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1416329810 563295 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://i.imgur.com/Hz2WcBD.png < 1416329837 617202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: cool, it survives irssi + mosh + terminal for me and displays the bidi correctly < 1416329849 966794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in layout order, not logical order) < 1416329873 677607 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that should only be a matter of your terminal, since it’s about character properties. < 1416329892 14230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you trust programs that layout unicode characters on screen to not mess it up? < 1416329901 231841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, programs that run in a terminal I mean < 1416329922 626264 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my ignorant question is now preserved forever < 1416329941 847768 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, mosh possibly could confuse the terminal about – ohgodIhavetobeelsewhere < 1416329956 82892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://mosh.mit.edu/#techinfo I think it's more likely to be right with mosh than without < 1416329962 427096 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1416329962 570467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it does things with unicode < 1416330350 592778 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: If you select the line, it should select according to logical order, so if you get discontinuous-looking selections, your terminal is doing it right and I would like to know which it is. < 1416330382 391947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my selection are continuous but weird < 1416330399 472255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I select from the third character after the second displayed [ to the ' then I get '؟' / 'ـ' < 1416330415 643914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's Terminal.app, anyway < 1416330426 480893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it generally handles unicode way better than the usual X11 terminals < 1416330441 387087 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416330451 589535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by "then I get", I mean it looks like I've selected what I said, but it copies as what I pasted. < 1416330469 5199 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. Nice. < 1416330528 973885 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, maybe it applies the selection to the logical order but shows it superimposed on the layout order? < 1416330557 521907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://letsencrypt.org/ huh. < 1416330563 292102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: right, that's what I think < 1416330575 119626 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-168-187.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, really need to leave now. < 1416330575 763391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it visually selects like any other line but copies weirdly < 1416330585 105081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cya < 1416330718 460826 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1416331152 938572 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416331178 697180 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416331218 575348 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416332478 687811 :S1!~S1@p4FF937BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1416333106 950864 :S1!~S1@p4FF937BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de NICK :|S} < 1416333427 614903 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416333525 935305 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: But will it work in IE? < 1416333540 667159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: they have an existing root CA co-signing for them, it seems < 1416333547 683062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :while they apply < 1416333553 353303 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416333597 823327 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, IdenTrust is a CA? Okay, with that sort of name, shouldn't have been surprised. < 1416333607 568386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they sign the letsencrypt.org key. < 1416333609 136304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so presumably. < 1416333697 973052 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416333778 840983 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-118-58.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1416334654 142268 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416334737 718157 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416334793 30045 :|S}!~S1@p4FF937BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de NICK :S1 < 1416335366 317406 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:My Unreliable Past14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41028&oldid=41025 5* 03BCompton 5* (+712) 10IO Questions < 1416335764 184735 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416335835 527628 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416336870 954632 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416337203 89805 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1416337280 75845 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416337534 364194 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416337547 697035 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416338054 993170 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1416338379 736191 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1416338448 401018 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1416338971 813972 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416338990 112047 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1416339136 536216 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416339581 285431 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1416340186 368525 :augur!~augur@pool-108-3-141-170.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416340279 229861 :augur!~augur@pool-108-3-141-170.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416340668 433852 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416340884 664708 :S1!~S1@p4FF937BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PART :#esoteric < 1416341119 395698 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416341263 751853 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416341428 451410 :augur!~augur@pool-108-3-141-170.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416341786 245870 :augur!~augur@pool-108-3-141-170.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416341800 50481 :augur!~augur@pool-108-3-141-170.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416342325 370350 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1416342718 713920 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416343054 817522 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416343109 494296 :augur!~augur@pool-108-3-141-170.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416343193 544634 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :static type checker for javascript http://flowtype.org/ < 1416344154 51909 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416344251 669280 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416344613 829478 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1416344678 20425 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416344924 932635 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416345179 831499 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1416345349 263151 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is CSS property inheritance esoteric? http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/test.html < 1416345377 201454 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1416345403 116359 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1416345421 386042 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont use firefox? and why do you need to know < 1416345436 824023 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm honestly wondering whether it's supposed to look like that, according to the CSS specification. < 1416345453 628518 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1416345462 967569 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does it on some chrome sites < 1416345468 616397 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is very annoying < 1416345485 770624 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefox just overlaps based on Font style < 1416345502 374778 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :and kinda pushes it together < 1416345527 355887 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :So i guess? idk ask someone else i use noscript < 1416345544 694082 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah but did you look at the source? The question is about the meaning of the relative line-height, 100%. < 1416345607 65680 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well then < 1416345611 276010 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1416345624 27164 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also newsham that will be very useful < 1416345628 352019 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1416345694 930465 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im also very tired < 1416345720 675176 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask taneb or someone im going to bed < 1416345765 416135 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good night, Dulnes < 1416345771 774536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: fwiw they overlap in my browser (chrome) too, but I suspect you know that < 1416345778 59421 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks the same on chromium < 1416345780 858321 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1416345826 880268 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, I only have this one browser on this computer. (and links, which won't exhibit this particular effect) < 1416345889 530961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :safari, too < 1416345920 281230 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also haven't looked at the specification yet. It's quite possible that this is correct (though I have my doubts that it was intended.) < 1416346181 677666 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, brx' solution will take a while to decipher... < 1416346188 959654 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i might stay to help int-e < 1416346205 56479 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :waits for phone to die < 1416346224 951563 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dulnes: it's not important < 1416346232 235334 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use palemoon and see if it doesnt overlap < 1416346295 27356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiler flags are not going to change firefox's layouting engine < 1416346397 139312 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can explain why the lines overlap easily -- the browser is inheriting the line-height as an absolute length, so we're rendering a 30pt font with a line height derived from a 10pt one. < 1416346418 666993 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dulnes: sleep seems more important to me < 1416346433 946126 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1416346957 185979 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay... I got the gist of it. grep/1/&/2/&/3/&/4/,9..$$ computes permutations of 1..4. Then it's actually using 'eval' to evaluate expressions. And it has 14 expression shapes that it tries in a specified order ... fun. < 1416346986 325110 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This is brx' solution to Make 24 on anagol) < 1416347234 831256 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it doesn't work in my perl... < 1416347256 473738 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(needs one more space) < 1416347420 566218 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and I guess it needs $$ to be between 4321 and 9999. < 1416347750 475585 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416347959 604568 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416348651 112958 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Make 24 timed out? < 1416348998 377318 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir NICK :reynur < 1416349419 984909 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1416349475 352767 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1416349484 977611 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1416349720 139252 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realized a thing < 1416349734 430768 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :The shorted lambda term that no one knows if halts or not is probably collatz conjecture < 1416349749 110802 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least labmda function from church nat to church nat < 1416349767 67999 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not know of closed lambda term whose halting is hard to decide < 1416349833 56290 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how short is collatz? < 1416349911 768494 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just thinking 3x+1 and halving is quite easy and short with church numerals < 1416349914 67777 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont see how collatz translates to a (non)halting term < 1416349917 499625 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you just have to loop it < 1416349931 54141 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :well w ecan't be sure yet that the lambda term halts on all church nat inputs < 1416349940 599628 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :when considered as a function N -> N < 1416349960 776134 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :collatz conjecture is a forall exists statement < 1416349969 614140 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416349988 183217 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just run the collatz 'step' function in a loop until you hit 1 < 1416350007 623513 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :goldbach is a single lambda term < 1416350011 9267 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The term that halts if and only if it can find an even integer > 2 not the sum of two primes < 1416350025 109566 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need primality checking for that so I think it would be longer < 1416350027 348746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can write a program to search for collatz counterexamples < 1416350031 828046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a single term < 1416350036 641910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be shorter than goldbach < 1416350062 917565 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :They would need to be periodic counterexamples < 1416350079 30432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, so? still unproven < 1416350090 587090 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :goldbach will probbably be resolved before collatz < 1416350093 307310 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416350101 18158 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :people are getting really good results on prime gaps < 1416350110 357933 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt: an integer for which collatz termination is unprovable < 1416350121 88419 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, elliot, collatz doesnt have finite refutation < 1416350134 665553 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general < 1416350141 945099 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nonexistence of periodic collatz is refutable < 1416350145 282460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was proposing a special case < 1416350149 391429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1416350150 85098 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and goldbach is quite small < 1416350153 280125 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :284 bits < 1416350183 310296 :NATT_SiM_!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416350192 907279 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1416350198 46249 :NATT_SiM_!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416350244 600392 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :existence of nontrivial collatz periods is certainly less interesting than goldbach < 1416350430 169977 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot, can you code a collatz period finder in 284 bits? < 1416350460 88108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me? probably not < 1416350462 896801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone? I suspect so < 1416350472 177009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pretty simple recursive algorithm < 1416350523 194798 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1416350550 249227 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :284 bits is not much. you have to divide by on church numerals, and search over list... it asdds up quickly < 1416350557 72541 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by 2 < 1416350561 27247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collatz_conjecture#As_an_abstract_machine_that_computes_in_base_two I like collatz-conjecture-as-halting-problem < 1416350565 78364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp_: you could do it on bit strings instead. < 1416350568 875521 :reynur!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir NICK :reynir < 1416350570 150769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that < 1416350596 791967 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't need to find period?? < 1416350601 138022 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there loops which never reach 0 < 1416350603 864055 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :1* < 1416350608 151360 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's really easy to solve the Collatz conjecture if you've solved the halting problem < 1416350626 358440 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's easy to construct a program that halts if there is a counterexample < 1416350632 515545 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you just feed it to your oracle :) < 1416350632 704460 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont thinnk we care about cycles < 1416350670 576820 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, it's somewhat tricky < 1416350690 120779 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot: ok, that looks doable in 284 bits < 1416350691 832805 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You actually want to use the oracle inside your program < 1416350712 572886 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :For each number, check if the program that computes the sequence halts < 1416350718 943560 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you counting the bits of? < 1416350724 968598 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that that weird lambda language < 1416350727 735577 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :in binary < 1416350728 671759 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so, continue with the next number < 1416350736 437259 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, use the oracle on that program, to check if it halts < 1416350747 30948 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, vaila < 1416350750 801383 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it doesn't, the collatz conjecture is true < 1416350752 393055 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila < 1416350773 690376 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just count characters of a lambda calculus program or so? < 1416350776 576585 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :or tree size < 1416350797 712655 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because bits is the most neutral measure < 1416350808 389470 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright < 1416351010 934842 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1416351079 345486 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416351103 726752 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1416351149 513136 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1416351243 586416 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416351267 970725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Koen__ < 1416351277 339742 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are things going? < 1416351278 549167 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :long time no see < 1416351281 787515 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1416351312 11625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of us seem to have become a bit addicted to code golfing < 1416351326 167701 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not me though < 1416351327 270905 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am pure < 1416351336 769416 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Œ < 1416351339 999198 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :im too bad at perl to golf < 1416351359 59348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: i golf in haskell < 1416351369 903168 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1416351371 512526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anarchy golf has a bunch of languages < 1416351389 773129 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i golf on a fairway you sick fuckers < 1416351395 992003 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :node.js < 1416351397 841167 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should make a language where every program is 140 characters < 1416351398 732930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can even golf in several esolangs < 1416351409 62025 :vanila!~user@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha twitterlanguage < 1416351409 205220 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1416351410 849105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a number here do burlesque) < 1416351428 550901 :Bike!~Glossina@stepheast-v394-wired-gw.net.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :140 characters and infinite alphabet. funes the memorious < 1416351447 354098 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :my eyes hurt i must change the colour of my client < 1416351531 152103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah make 24's deadline has expired < 1416351557 724876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't try that one though, looked too arduous to do as anything other than compression, which doesn't interest me. < 1416351580 578144 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1416351608 883295 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416351705 586811 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416351768 33448 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you can still look at the solutions. brx' is the closest to a proper one. < 1416351895 392340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i did look at that one < 1416351902 19268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yours < 1416352055 181455 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no real idea how either works, though. < 1416352064 152184 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently I've been the only one who encoded the solutions as operator pattern and permutations. < 1416352165 435902 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm? < 1416352181 237076 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dulnes: http://golf.shinh.org/p.rb?Make+24 < 1416352191 30010 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank < 1416352258 469376 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I have a function f that produces a stream of numbers 0..3; the key is this pattern: (-1FGF)>1G(>2F)<1GF)>2 <-- each F is expanded to $F[f] (and perl -a conveniently places the 4 fields of each input line in @F), and each G is replaced by $G[f], and G is the array of operators. Finally, (xx and )xx are replaced by ( if $vxx evaluates to true; $v is another number between 0 and 3. So that results in the various ways... < 1416352264 445791 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...of placing () and there are only 4 of those total. < 1416352297 675092 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/(\W)(..)/"$v$2?\$1:''"/gee does the (xx and )xx replacement; and s/(\w)/$$1[f]/g takes care of the F and G. < 1416352305 797139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dulnes: it's in theory about expressing 24 as an expression in given numbers, but it's ruined by the fact you have to get _exactly_ the same answers as listed, with no real rule for which one to choose. < 1416352321 15604 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1416352338 766591 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cant atm am on phone < 1416352348 396970 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so everyone who solved it has to encode the wanted answers in the program. < 1416352362 923360 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed < 1416352381 42053 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. brx hasn't, he's specified a search order. < 1416352386 774535 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1416352403 329411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it gives the right result? < 1416352413 327224 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and the search isn't exhaustive) < 1416352430 377979 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :May i share this problem with some people < 1416352451 509241 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course. the deadline is expired though, although you can still submit additional answers. < 1416352464 548676 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1416352485 813128 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :When is the next one? < 1416352588 945494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are several currently open, see http://golf.shinh.org/ < 1416352718 713108 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: as far as I can see he's searching for the lexicographically latest permutation such that one of the following pattern (with numbers omitted) works: -*(-) -*(+) -** -*- +*(-) +*(+) +** +*- (++)* (*-)* +++ ++- /++ +-- with later ones taking priority. < 1416352734 663691 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1416352754 994487 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a very restricted search but you can, for example, permute the inputs and it'll still work. < 1416352807 469367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ok so he's encoded the wanted _priorities_ in an ad-hoc way rather than the answers < 1416352821 62205 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1416352917 774944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/toroman < 1416352918 379880 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/toroman < 1416352951 665384 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's not pretty but far better than I dreamed possible. < 1416352961 101442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1416352976 978865 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: btw codegolf ? thats competitive right < 1416353199 742866 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh fizzie exploited the trailing whitespace, too < 1416353256 30465 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the thing is a bash, you could've used $[] for $(()) < 1416353290 250558 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1416353315 600776 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :37*6e124 * 556( 56 / 34 ) = ¿? < 1416353440 200058 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1416353499 752411 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07My Unreliable Past14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41029&oldid=41027 5* 03BCompton 5* (+1) 10/* Semantics */ Data is plural < 1416353782 727910 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whats that language that makes everything look like binary < 1416353872 87845 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :binary lambda calculus? < 1416353885 338283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dulnes: of course, the goal is to have the shortest program (in your language, or sometimes at all) < 1416353943 597000 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :anylanguage? even if its one of the joke ones < 1416353984 103862 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank tromp_ < 1416354093 751888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure. some of the esolangy ones are pretty good for golfing, with very short commands. others are hard to golf in, though. < 1416354115 757624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i said, burlesque is popular here. < 1416354162 19592 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've submitted a few in unlambda. not very good for numbers, that. < 1416354165 428517 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does an esolang that is easier to implement a REPL for than any other mode including file interpretation sound like a thing that could be made? < 1416354171 710439 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame FreeFull for giving me the idea < 1416354209 680949 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, blame me < 1416354233 993623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can think of a language where that actually _is_ easier, sure. < 1416354234 701233 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to keep in mind, stdin is practically a file < 1416354253 849998 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe if you tied the output to the input < 1416354266 562799 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the user has to use the output to change their input to be suitable < 1416354273 975889 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ive had alot of short commands in python and javascript++ and C# idk if i can make "short" commands in an esolang i like to make commands long and stringy for no reason < 1416354283 284341 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can use randomisation to make sure the output doesn't stay the same < 1416354294 325459 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can't just feed in a file and have it work < 1416354408 940583 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: there. 180 :) < 1416354421 360663 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION jokingly makes it in huh?++
< 1416354427 579576 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking earlier, it'd be neat to have a system where you can feed in stuff like i² = j² = k² = ijk = -1; and have it automatically derive how to work with quaternions < 1416354493 331608 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: (2 bytes from the $[]; the remaining bytes came from recompressing the data (1 byte) and then truncating the file (ok, so zcat is now somewhat unhappy, but who cares...)) < 1416354525 926807 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416354849 35393 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1416354987 676703 :Dulnes!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdbhtorfyxlxqphp PRIVMSG #esoteric :37*6e124+*+556(+56+%2F+34+)+&cad=h = 2.032998e+129 < 1416355170 905213 :NATT_SiM!~tlewkow@206-80-4-190.static.twtelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1416355180 416333 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't make a system that takes arbitrary rewrite rules or group presentations and works out the correct normal forms < 1416355188 476494 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in general)