< 1417824372 271082 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My cost function based on Euclidean distance just went negative. :/ < 1417824485 795671 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not just by a little bit, either -- http://sprunge.us/cehd < 1417824493 480240 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1417824669 507351 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, complex numbers. Well, that's not a surprise. < 1417825096 944740 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what crazy language are variables complex by default? < 1417825140 435543 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is that crazy? < 1417825156 175270 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, for one, prefer the complex number plane < 1417825238 460392 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :its crazy because it is not conventional < 1417825488 989018 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't necessarily a bad thing to be unconventional < 1417825532 885375 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like base 79 < 1417825544 281337 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, you get it < 1417825853 939879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: you're completely off base < 1417825879 4855 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Octave/MATLAB. < 1417825931 266410 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Did a sqrt on the wrong thing, one that was a bit negative.) < 1417825995 680713 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha... < 1417826008 113186 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a bit negative < 1417826036 493899 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not much more < 1417828400 928603 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1417829253 260283 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1417830204 184661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what are you costing? < 1417830322 490725 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :J does the same thing < 1417830335 499183 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :%: _3 gives 0j1.73205 < 1417830407 860140 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, J < 1417830844 982004 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03XorSwap 5* 10New user account < 1417831719 947506 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Eve14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=41369 5* 03XorSwap 5* (+484) 10An event and stack oriented language < 1417831927 643176 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Eve14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41370&oldid=41369 5* 03XorSwap 5* (+88) 10 < 1417833194 22537 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Eve14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41371&oldid=41370 5* 03XorSwap 5* (+1623) 10 < 1417833443 999841 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Eve14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41372&oldid=41371 5* 03XorSwap 5* (+98) 10 < 1417834089 216300 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417834588 578416 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1417834694 966056 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Eve14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41373&oldid=41372 5* 03XorSwap 5* (+768) 10 < 1417834718 460047 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Eve14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41374&oldid=41373 5* 03XorSwap 5* (+1) 10/* = Explanation */ < 1417834947 560211 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:XorSwap14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=41375 5* 03XorSwap 5* (+222) 10Created page with "I like to think up esolangs. I'm still working on the whole 'implement' bit. The only one I've written the spec for so far is [[Eve]]. My website can be found at the rather..." < 1417838872 387345 :qwertyo!~qwertyo1@50-1-63-35.dedicated.static.sonic.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417841880 376084 :qwertyo!~qwertyo1@50-1-63-35.dedicated.static.sonic.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1417841887 865829 :qwertyo!~qwertyo1@50-1-63-35.dedicated.static.sonic.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417842375 455151 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1417842722 87971 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is saturday nao! < 1417842953 680178 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still friday sir < 1417843536 842678 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1417843557 117371 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is 00 < 1417843571 927956 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the time where i am < 1417843586 629661 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:25 < 1417843686 952486 :qwertyo!~qwertyo1@50-1-63-35.dedicated.static.sonic.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1417843720 159016 :qwertyo!~qwertyo1@50-1-63-35.dedicated.static.sonic.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417844167 836997 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417844168 509319 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1417844172 636547 :CrazyM4n_!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417844185 546519 :CrazyM4n_!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net NICK :CrazyM4n < 1417844333 492947 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm making a generic 2d language IDE < 1417844353 645169 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Ncurses or what? < 1417844369 859757 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1417844374 849620 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It already exists doesn't it < 1417844398 507104 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is gonna have to be some Emacs vs Vim style buisness < 1417844401 158834 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm no expert < 1417844420 732716 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :screw both of those they both suck < 1417844431 342778 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nano for lyfe? < 1417844454 429023 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to use nano but now i use midnight commander < 1417844470 376846 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm talking about text editors, not DoTA heroes < 1417844478 927246 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol... < 1417844486 564568 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1417844497 227252 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does midnight commander even have a text editor? < 1417844501 738634 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mcedit has some nice features < 1417844517 771743 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MCEdit.... as in minecraft? < 1417844538 396682 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you go to the options in mc, it has a "use internal editor" option < 1417844546 308274 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhh I see < 1417844558 808257 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1417844594 642895 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the internal editor has some cool features like a "cursor beyond end of line" option < 1417844615 225163 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is very useful for fungeoids < 1417844654 50379 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MSWord can do that < 1417844659 931790 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore I will use MSWord < 1417844666 645476 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1417844714 896874 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. for me editors just have to get out of my way and let me code. < 1417844729 86760 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sublime text represent! < 1417844751 95798 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is what i use for python < 1417844809 508912 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :using a different editor for different languages helps me because i want only spaces for python and only tabs for C < 1417844825 783363 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1417844838 657159 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use tabs for everything except haskell (because I literally can't) < 1417844875 412319 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically tabs confuse me in languages with significant whitespace < 1417844881 134837 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1417844890 392465 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quick, give me a good symbol to represent a space < 1417844896 542158 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That isn't in the funge standards < 1417844911 674379 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :。 < 1417844915 639179 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking of using a bullet point < 1417844919 841733 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :・ < 1417845019 153913 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are ideographic tho. what about a ‎∴ or something < 1417845021 655676 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about ߦ < 1417845027 906009 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦ < 1417845032 659765 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy shit they connect < 1417845035 624108 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦ < 1417845045 930713 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode characters can do that? < 1417845055 67770 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid JOIN :#esoteric < 1417845055 398509 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1417845057 203774 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1417845061 231385 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1417845078 117821 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what symbol for space in a fungeoid editor? < 1417845078 361751 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I'm having a moment of realization here < 1417845078 361885 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦߦv < 1417845192 709214 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just use ☢ for now, it's not worth it to spend too much time on this < 1417845271 93452 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot see that symbol without posting this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv_srA3WY6s < 1417845374 152968 :qwertyo!~qwertyo1@50-1-63-35.dedicated.static.sonic.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1417845389 102297 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1417845394 982500 :qwertyo!~qwertyo1@50-1-63-35.dedicated.static.sonic.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417845400 311914 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a family of languagse based on CHIQRSX9+ < 1417845418 398854 :SopaXorzTaker!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1417845423 737966 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a program in CHIQRSX9+$language is executed as CHIQRSX9+ if its one character, else as $language < 1417845439 843350 :SopaXorzTaker!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi there < 1417845441 671141 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe remove X since its covered < 1417845443 380451 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1417845483 77150 :SopaXorzTaker!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idea! what about a weird language, where you can redefine keywords and literals? 'assume 123=456; print 123;' < 1417845540 82825 :SopaXorzTaker!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :this will output 456 < 1417845576 870008 :SopaXorzTaker!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 'assume +=-; print 2+2' < 1417845606 390542 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well redefining operators is easy in lisp or forth < 1417845622 613529 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 2 + 2 = 5 in 2 + 2 < 1417845624 301772 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5 < 1417845631 433845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SopaXorzTaker: < 1417845634 42865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google esolang forte < 1417845635 513154 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Forte < 1417845636 122875 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Forte - Esolang < 1417845640 693499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like that except even weirder) < 1417845641 346117 :SopaXorzTaker!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1417845685 52746 :SopaXorzTaker!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of that... < 1417845693 997671 :SopaXorzTaker!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :for 2 years < 1417845713 926578 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry... the space of high-concept languages is very crowded < 1417845715 770006 :SopaXorzTaker!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now somebody did it! noo! < 1417845720 110770 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Slashes < 1417845726 24609 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: "I'll be back, internet dieing" < 1417845743 929904 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :he needs to reboot his internet < 1417845799 96874 :SopaXorzTaker!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1417845808 637676 :SopaXorzTaker!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything is alreadly done, argh! < 1417845826 541795 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not true. < 1417845849 282714 :SopaXorzTaker!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I new with stacked bf then? < 1417845858 693940 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :literally last week < 1417845864 928514 :SopaXorzTaker!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :or don't tell me that is alreadly made < 1417845870 476720 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MNNBFSL < 1417845877 745591 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :made my a dude in japan < 1417845903 524374 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :another idea: The interprter does a bayesian classifier on the source code and then calls the corrct interpreter (so you can write perl, ruby, haskell, lisp... it will just figure itout and run it) < 1417845907 314429 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/MNNBFSL < 1417845924 805586 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SopaXorzTaker, in scheme you can redefine keywords but not literals < 1417845962 742274 :SopaXorzTaker!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1417845966 335876 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cluid that sounds like a great idea < 1417845967 613768 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.g. (let ((lambda +)) (lambda (foo) x)) will add < 1417845984 894117 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MNNBFSL is really cool < 1417846034 608169 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The interpreter runs all installed interpreters in parallel and picks one that works < 1417846129 92806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SopaXorzTaker: $adjective BF exists for all $adjective < 1417846140 276625 :SopaXorzTaker!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1417846151 535145 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :including K-on BF < 1417846158 440468 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in the show K-on < 1417846200 151946 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so can anyone help me understand K-on fuck < 1417846209 245242 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that its just a text subittution for brainfuck < 1417846215 792658 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is. < 1417846223 900188 :SopaXorzTaker!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :object oriented bf? maybe < 1417846234 338163 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just has an ungooglable name < 1417846241 764028 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/wasabili/640572 < 1417846251 197628 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I found this, which is a formatter version of the azunyan interpreter < 1417846259 354418 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (ac > 1 && av[1][0] == 97)? a537():kofi(); < 1417846262 485189 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not sure what this is < 1417846267 339139 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what a537 does < 1417846281 282035 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is hello world example https://gist.github.com/wasabili/640467 < 1417846287 180365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cluid: ac is argc, av is argv < 1417846288 349897 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can ad this to the wiki after we figure it out < 1417846294 821860 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is probably some shift jis hackery < 1417846297 850912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if there are arguments passed and the first letter of the first argument is 97 which is uh < 1417846300 863513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr 97 < 1417846302 422612 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'a' < 1417846305 601561 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/wasabili/640461 less obfuscated version < 1417846314 16772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so $ ./a.out astuff calls a537() instead of running the interpreter < 1417846320 76573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect it's just an easter egg < 1417846332 965396 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/wasabili/562178 this is what made me think that it is a bf substitution originally < 1417846367 587229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that code doesn't even compile though :p < 1417846377 543270 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sdbfitkczitohpmn JOIN :#esoteric < 1417846381 514333 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417846391 751324 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you try running the interpreter and writing stuff into it < 1417846448 549973 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sdbfitkczitohpmn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1417846454 905033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :% ./a.out < 1417846455 98101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :**Welcome to K-on Fxxk!** < 1417846455 98276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :warning: this program uses gets(), which is unsafe. < 1417846455 98353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1417846456 29483 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey < 1417846456 597677 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : not an expression: ‘’ < 1417846459 34352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1417846473 790587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :./a.out a does weird things too < 1417846479 924625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like uh < 1417846482 864397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :print 0 no matter what < 1417846492 781812 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/K-on_Fuck < 1417846494 722375 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You writing an IRC bot? < 1417846502 702028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except if it's afoo then it prints 0D < 1417846515 697227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no < 1417846516 738696 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sdbfitkczitohpmn PRIVMSG #esoteric :gets() who would do such a thing < 1417846519 497195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was just my ^D :p < 1417846541 788484 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sdbfitkczitohpmn PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make a bot again. Oh the memories < 1417846599 737140 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I didn't show any of you, I made a generic code-running bot < 1417846611 78133 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Already been done before < 1417846614 578115 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this one, this one is *extendable* :O < 1417846705 982387 :qwertyo!~qwertyo1@50-1-63-35.dedicated.static.sonic.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1417846749 459014 :qwertyo!~qwertyo1@50-1-63-35.dedicated.static.sonic.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417846788 791196 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Fractran wow < 1417846797 54762 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the SE link is dead but https://github.com/graue/esofiles/blob/master/fractran/impl/fractran-in-fractran.txt < 1417846833 83913 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My internet isn't working because Skype is eating all the bandwidth < 1417846836 11474 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Explain it? < 1417846844 14273 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :delete skype < 1417846845 357138 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just kidding, it just loaded < 1417846863 952765 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pkill -9 skype < 1417846899 402914 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's installing < 1417846902 184304 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got tired of the crappy linux version (which runs on Wine < 1417846903 77008 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :_ < 1417846904 437350 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1417846907 943893 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have an alias in my bashrc of pulseaudiodieinafire < 1417846943 340549 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :to pkill -9 pulseaudio < 1417846953 117824 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I call that command "fix" < 1417846963 127456 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it usually solves whatever problem I'm having... < 1417846975 538328 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know about this higher levle fractran language he invented? < 1417846982 896730 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :at one point I'm pretty sure I fixed a sound problem with "apt-get remove pulseaudio" and it wasn't even installed < 1417846986 264093 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One time, my keyboard was disconnecting and generally being weird and doubling keys, < 1417846990 28003 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But killing pulseaudio fixed it < 1417846993 174785 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :who did < 1417847016 295292 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've actually heard of it before < 1417847075 173566 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be cool to have a compiler from that to fractran, and also a direct implementation < 1417847172 592309 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its impressive to program in fractran directly < 1417847181 786164 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like this approach, of making up a language with subroutines < 1417847233 672129 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate this https://docs.python.org/3/library/curses.html#curses.window.refresh < 1417847247 288330 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1417847248 105427 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate this specific function < 1417847248 337799 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please discuss fractran < 1417847249 619858 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With every shred of my existence right now < 1417847276 785001 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is like buffering in a graphics library < 1417847371 936509 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you call that at the end of your draw step < 1417847422 465799 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that < 1417847468 165656 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at the syntax of it < 1417847468 516481 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :First two arguments are the top left of it, the second two are the top right, the last two are the bottom left < 1417847469 139605 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why < 1417847469 139738 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why world < 1417847490 427049 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the C version isn't like that < 1417847526 362843 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH < 1417847531 565018 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read it wrong.... < 1417847534 620622 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the C version takes no arguments < 1417847537 120536 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm really good at reading docs you know < 1417847570 394622 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This actually makes sense, the first two args are the coords on the pad < 1417847581 635852 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the last 4 are just the coords of where to render to < 1417847592 859607 :qwertyo!~qwertyo1@50-1-63-35.dedicated.static.sonic.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1417847613 593584 :qwertyo!~qwertyo1@50-1-63-35.dedicated.static.sonic.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417848188 113783 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Classic python community.... I ask for how to do something in curses, they tell me to go use their python-only solution and don't answer my original question < 1417848229 668595 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were you trying to do < 1417848239 351813 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get the cursor position in curses < 1417848312 158437 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.delorie.com/gnu/docs/ncurses/man/ look here < 1417848353 591018 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just getyx() < 1417848354 590859 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be getyx < 1417848357 584933 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1417848368 925721 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So hyped for this IDE < 1417848790 546828 :qwertyo!~qwertyo1@50-1-63-35.dedicated.static.sonic.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1417848816 773173 :qwertyo!~qwertyo1@50-1-63-35.dedicated.static.sonic.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417849980 194497 :qwertyo!~qwertyo1@50-1-63-35.dedicated.static.sonic.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1417850070 854715 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1417852141 386753 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417852596 732056 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1417852698 326608 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1417853612 754086 :dianne!~diannes@unaffiliated/dianne QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1417853720 745824 :dianne!~diannes@unaffiliated/dianne JOIN :#esoteric < 1417854086 332989 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm i think a vernier scale could be a cool design for a videogame exp display < 1417854208 922898 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :which languages provide fraction literals? < 1417854473 92685 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :¾ < 1417854569 864511 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote FinnAir < 1417854584 10398 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :714) I saw a Finnair plane today In a smoking rubble? Close. Heathrow Airport < 1417854593 627385 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen another FinnAir plane! < 1417854639 381390 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :In another desolate environment? < 1417854657 723120 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ok, that's a fair description of 90% of airports anyway.) < 1417854694 574604 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby has fraction (Rational) literals as of 2.1.0 < 1417854703 821422 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, Hong Kong Airport < 1417854721 44456 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly Heathrow too, it's been a long day < 1417854732 867745 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAS languages like pari/gp should generally have them < 1417854736 332066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: where are you now? < 1417854746 800282 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Hong Kong Airport, waiting for a connection < 1417854759 193151 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_bird%27s_eye_view_of_Hong_Kong_International_Airport.JPG ... yeah < 1417854781 597226 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, i'm not sure if it's a fraction literal, so much as that exact representations are preferred over rounding options < 1417854842 483828 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a program fragment written on a piece of paper < 1417854845 614158 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2%4 -- not a literal < 1417854847 553675 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 % 2 < 1417854859 56769 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm trying to figure out what language it is < 1417854943 911613 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it is ruby < 1417854976 431306 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :while(z < 45/22)z++ < 1417854990 467599 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems like C < 1417854994 196032 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :with no semicolon. < 1417855006 423849 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not ruby < 1417855043 6953 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be rubbish i found it abandoned on a desk < 1417855072 178434 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be valid awk inside braces < 1417855078 947966 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :where 45/22 would be computed as double < 1417855079 625437 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it printed or written by hand? < 1417855094 268944 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :written by hand in purple pen < 1417855108 888786 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so missing a semicolon could just be a mistake < 1417855110 291669 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Purple pen... < 1417855113 732496 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably significant < 1417855131 966275 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it could be for printed code, too, but then it would be less likely) < 1417855132 759138 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :light purple or dark purple? < 1417855146 113762 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like gel pen it is sparkly < 1417855210 276013 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :for hand written things people often write mixture of correct code and short hands for whatever they mean mathematically < 1417855221 740297 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/short hands/shorthand/ < 1417855242 229849 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :whe problem is it doesn't make sense, why would you increment z while comparing it to a fraction < 1417855271 681226 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :z could be floating point ? < 1417855271 994505 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be ++ doesn't mean increment in this case < 1417855326 14810 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :45 / 22 is a tiny bit below 2 < 1417855338 432364 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*above < 1417855355 489354 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe they are a beginner and want <= 2 < 1417855385 743505 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it is concievable for the value to be 1/22 and they want that to behave differently? < 1417855399 652751 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhh that makes sense < 1417855406 356455 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i checked that in pari/gp, "type(1/2)" returns "t_FRAC" < 1417855502 465663 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's still just the result of dividing 1 by 2, so it doesn't really seem to be a literal. (i might not know what i'm talking about) < 1417855517 71332 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I wanted any value slightly above 2 I probably would not write 45/22. 21/10 or 201/100 would be more likely. < 1417855526 213379 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm... < 1417855564 589117 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe I'm supposed to think that ;-) < 1417855568 770498 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is possible that this is an empirically found value < 1417855599 924716 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a value that happens to work for some task < 1417855703 474386 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp maybe next time i'm there i'll scribble down some mysterious code and leave it < 1417855842 29675 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :as it happens i have a sparkly gold pen < 1417856109 278345 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in whole foods (expensive supermarkets with organic food and such), i've noticed the bathroom stalls have inspirational quotes instead of the usual vulgar messages and drawings < 1417856116 769689 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i had a decent phone i would have taken a picture < 1417856136 386201 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, i meant inspirational quote grafitti written by customers < 1417856142 3740 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :important info < 1417856183 71421 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :things like "be the change you want to see in the world" -- ghandi < 1417856275 994287 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dim x as real: x=1; x-=x^2-2/2*x while i*i /= 2; < 1417856279 693759 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sdbfitkczitohpmn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb why are you traveling so much? < 1417856291 46326 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will write that and leave in the same desk < 1417856295 760071 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going on holiday, CakeMeat < 1417856300 104479 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sdbfitkczitohpmn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amaze < 1417856304 645910 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sdbfitkczitohpmn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dont die < 1417856314 665254 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first quote must have been in 2009 at the latest... < 1417856338 285814 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I went to Heathrow a couple of years ago? < 1417856338 670182 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sdbfitkczitohpmn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good advice for anyone who goes 'round the world < 1417856405 500912 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i spelled gandhi wrong < 1417856430 364853 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghandhy < 1417856441 52992 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gh and hy < 1417856456 793615 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vaguely know someone called Gandy < 1417856487 653500 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was the leader of the indian rebellion against the british < 1417856515 387892 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then he was all pissed when the muslims and hindus could'nt get along afterwards < 1417856546 266786 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know who Gandhi was < 1417856554 878110 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also vaguely know someone called Gandy < 1417856560 705702 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what???? < 1417856561 819721 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friend of a friend or something < 1417856619 947945 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see... i have a friend named Teddy but gandy? < 1417856652 637329 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know the guy that well... < 1417856662 186394 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then again obama is the president and mitt was almost president < 1417856672 878197 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe i dunno what a weird name is < 1417856692 335359 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :All names are weird. Then you get used to them. < 1417856703 924574 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, Everything is weird. < 1417856808 366273 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh the Winslow! < 1417856860 681877 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right i mean my name is oren with an e and that is weird, but shachaf tells me that's a normal name in Israel < 1417856891 296412 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn, i spelled graffiti wrong too < 1417856937 531514 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oren < 1417857222 106038 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :winslow? < 1417857278 485603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ören is related. < 1417857600 166408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren kaenbyou < 1417857740 425610 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah it's also a japanese name like oren ishii from kill bill < 1417857816 199257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your name just reminds me of rin. < 1417858037 293043 :SopaXorzTaker!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417858865 5486 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: http://www.airshipentertainment.com/buckcomic.php?date=20080313 < 1417858938 133762 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: a stuffed animal of the Foglio's kids, appears as a major plot element in Buck Godot (people worship it), and has numerous cameo appearances in their other comic(s), like yesterday: http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20141205 < 1417858952 303924 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/'s/s'/ < 1417859160 964585 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a comprehensive list of webcomics that are popular here? Order of the Stick, Homestuck, Girl Genius... < 1417859198 103495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :super mega comics was, once upon a time < 1417859199 580657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FSVO popular < 1417859231 609639 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :GG may be just oerjan and I. < 1417859249 137447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pbflist < 1417859252 826762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1417859255 297618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that existed < 1417859262 302205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, for the best that it doesn't or I'd have pinged people < 1417859265 41515 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pbflist: shachaf Sgeo quintopia ion < 1417859265 184833 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 1 < 1417859266 625982 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1417859289 765736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops. < 1417859299 957915 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: taking a nap? < 1417859309 664966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there was probably a pbf since the last time anyone ran that. < 1417859321 407748 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1417860167 114034 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e : I also like girl genius. < 1417860574 980802 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417860587 815608 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1417860599 740159 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417860750 620901 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-113-127-236.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1417860832 873514 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417860900 999429 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1417860903 277580 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417861717 51148 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1417863291 222505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1417863358 908508 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well well well < 1417863363 454006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it isn't the big Ø < 1417863390 842051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLO < 1417863534 510519 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "big Ø" notation is very useful when talking about asymptotic complexity. < 1417863572 947387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means "you don't have a chance to understand how big this is" hth < 1417863631 171343 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417863656 853254 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1417863671 198513 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417863870 895222 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417863944 890980 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1417863956 803905 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417864514 296858 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: So apparently I was wrong after all and Lady Selnikov has merely released the Beast by accident. < 1417864537 636377 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, appearances can be deceiving. < 1417864575 296334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am still not convinced she's not orchestrating this. < 1417864596 246446 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now if this was the Baron finding her, she'd be revived in some vat in no time. < 1417864599 936849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for one thing, if the monk was shot in the foot, how did he _witness_ these things? < 1417864600 552405 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this is Agatha ... < 1417864664 281291 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was he shot in the foot? mmm. < 1417864712 358825 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I suck at reading as usual. < 1417864717 238689 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the alternative seems to be that he's _lying_ which also seems unlikely. unless there's mind control involved. < 1417864750 730980 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was distracted by the signs in the second panel. "It cannot die but is too stupid to..." < 1417864753 733570 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1417864789 247411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :worst case: lady selnikov is the Other and the monk is a revenant. < 1417864802 88659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(possibly newly instated.) < 1417864812 292624 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :In any case, he clearly did not see her *die*. < 1417864820 827498 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1417864832 568985 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smoke and wreckage and the a corpse. Now where's the mirror... < 1417864839 1873 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*then < 1417864866 916078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that _does_ make more sense. < 1417864918 1617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he would presumably have had time to find her, and may have jumped to conclusions on the rest. < 1417864942 543477 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is she a Smoke knight? If she's half as good as Violetta, all sorts of things could have happened. < 1417864977 170177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the winslow can surely be distracting yeah :P < 1417865064 323827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm wondering if the train assassins were working for her and just pretending to try to kill her. < 1417865078 184604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you make girl genius sound so exciting < 1417865087 969307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep hth < 1417865091 134931 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sdbfitkczitohpmn QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1417865108 584428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me know when the faces aren't horrifying < 1417865144 347974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not hth :P < 1417865592 574898 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hum < 1417865608 211849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suddenly remember someone with the initials on that book.
< 1417865637 805551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+s < 1417865720 847728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the first letter has never been revealed in story, but it's what you'd expect. < 1417865828 813405 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. http://girlgenius.wikia.com/wiki/Van_Rijn ... it's *that* book! < 1417865878 972656 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then Agatha should recognize it immediately. < 1417865888 268109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the one from the circus! < 1417865945 498418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i even remember rereading that strip a few days ago < 1417865976 118059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :agatha wondered how the muse had found it since it was in her [cut off] < 1417866037 600800 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn. 9 years. http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20051003 < 1417866078 826129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's not the strip i was remembering < 1417866210 32661 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you were right about Anevka, she's merely a clone of van Rijn's designs. http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20051104 < 1417866278 561797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah here it is http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20060106#.VILrwZUtBjo < 1417866304 718303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what _is_ with the #.* anchors on that site?) < 1417866467 888012 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Odd, I don't see those. < 1417866492 785594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it may have something to do with how i'm visiting it < 1417866497 170226 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417866584 921084 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1417866597 504324 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417866623 584935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see it even after following the one you linked. only the rwz part varies. < 1417866658 589108 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it seems to change on each click. < 1417866886 467081 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange. must be some sort of malware < 1417866901 89248 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that *is* the easiest explanation ;-) ) < 1417867020 344754 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :could some "transparent" proxy be adding those extra bits? < 1417867103 241340 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417867165 393581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i assume it's on the site. < 1417867175 75554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps some javascript. < 1417867201 197316 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1417867202 622679 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417867214 846320 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it started after that recent major redesign. < 1417867314 761582 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I tried a fresh profile, and I still don't see anything like this. < 1417867326 261429 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are using the < and > buttons, right? < 1417867376 181861 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417867454 267792 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, there we have something. < 1417867498 159596 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1417867506 296289 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417867557 143105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly < and >, but also the story navigation menu < 1417867575 769229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it happens even when i go directly there from the address bar < 1417867619 477843 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I see it happening, I just wasn't patient enough... < 1417867758 758840 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :some script from addthis.com does it. < 1417867858 119299 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I read GG too fast to get up-to-speed, because I can't say I remember all the characters and their names :\ < 1417867871 240620 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's just so many characters < 1417868602 930577 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-51.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1417868625 644245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah there it's gone. < 1417868694 4587 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: it's hard to keep up. < 1417868947 310449 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Is there a comprehensive list of webcomics that are popular here?" ← `` ls bin/*list < 1417868954 36812 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, to some degree) < 1417868968 170300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure gg isn't there < 1417869011 419956 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair < 1417869025 497139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the *lists don't include comics that update semi-predictably. < 1417869042 291109 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep interpreting "GG" as "Gunnerkrigg ...Gourt". < 1417869051 177467 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they're hard to decipher. It took me months to figure out the meaning of olist. < 1417869051 526189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OGAY < 1417869111 747353 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I would likely have done better if I were actually following OOTS) < 1417869156 53351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that's crazy talk < 1417869196 340003 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, imagine my impression of `olist ;-) < 1417869226 413224 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"okay, people notifying each other of random numbers ... well, maybe I'll figure it out some day." < 1417869269 310900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :0147 < 1417869344 355052 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: GK is a good comic, too, but there's a lot less of plot to discuss. < 1417869387 348113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1417869413 327408 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good to know < 1417869424 226183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gunnerkrigg kourt? < 1417869427 681926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame fizzie < 1417869442 711476 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just continuing oerjan's "OGAY". < 1417869456 463808 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least that's the excuse I'll stick to now. < 1417869750 41152 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bellard.org/bpg/ neat < 1417869845 36985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a pretty sticky excuse. do you need help getting off? < 1417869889 387018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION realizes what he just says
< 1417869893 519590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*said < 1417869901 410090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT IS HAPPENING TO MY TENSES < 1417869931 8485 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417869955 163812 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1417869956 218430 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417870027 604276 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo order of the scow < 1417870140 799017 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: i find a completely unstyled web page with no date on it slightly disturbing. how do i know whether this is the newest thing or from 1995? < 1417870179 59317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...well i suppose javascript couldn't usefully do this back then. < 1417870182 233435 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417870184 399467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still. < 1417870195 590526 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree about that < 1417870210 924431 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :The spec linked under "Technical information" at least contains a year < 1417870211 371621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: check the last-modified header hth < 1417870240 625664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* is it possible to find that in IE... < 1417870250 994237 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1417870252 412041 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417870257 754424 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :And following the link to the wikipedia article on HEVC informs me it's from 2013 < 1417870260 298947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ag tgere < 1417870260 598569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that was almost too helpful to follow with "hth" < 1417870263 662626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ah there < 1417870273 584041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you've got a point < 1417870282 788433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, your browser shows you the last-modified header? how? < 1417870293 288257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :12.06.2014 < 1417870326 507120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: under "properties"? < 1417870353 584880 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1417870358 141554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually "Egenskaper", but i am guessing that's what it's in english) < 1417870360 789312 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should switch to ie < 1417870402 80505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is not exactly sure when shachaf started being sarcastic there
< 1417870430 404253 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( one of those doesn't fit... http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/comics.png ) < 1417870452 190754 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a good feature and I think it would be nice if my browser had it. < 1417870457 712949 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the no date point applies to papers too, IME. < 1417870465 596347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use Windows so switching to IE would be way too much work to be worth it. < 1417870475 211294 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. I like papers with dates on them. < 1417870478 103504 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arguably even more, since they tend to always follow the same style conventions < 1417870505 961181 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess if it seems they're using something pre-LaTeX for rendering mathematical expressions, that's an indication that this might be a tad too old < 1417870593 468187 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Firefox seems to show it under 'view page info' < 1417870628 135993 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chromium doesn't. < 1417870743 309932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: is it the "On the cleverness of compilers"? < 1417870750 728984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*CC < 1417870752 996409 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes. < 1417870761 18948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1417870761 162449 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417870775 594966 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "Untitled Document" is http://faith.rydia.net/episode1/page20.html < 1417870821 677516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, i have a different page with the same title < 1417870851 114977 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1417870864 361191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, Word 97 was so good < 1417870870 700164 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :such a good program < 1417870873 270742 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1417870876 455861 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417870909 863300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :much edit < 1417870966 235375 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My bookmarks are write-only. < 1417871049 958635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My bookmarking strategy is this: I open tabs with things I want to get to. I never get to them. Eventually I have so many tabs that my browser gets slow, or they don't fit (or my browser crashes and loses them all). I put them all in a bookmark folder and never look at it again. < 1417871059 949791 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like a huge time-saver. < 1417871083 103576 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall bookmarking in that way back in the early 2000s < 1417871093 155581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except there were no tabs) < 1417871110 670847 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you can skip the step where you save the bookmarks < 1417871130 880380 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excel 2000 was the shit. http://youtu.be/UO4DvM9KUyM < 1417871135 80601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Hence "write-only". < 1417871141 3067 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i quit university i got it all saved to a cd but i doubts it's still readable < 1417871147 111721 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I do. Very rarely that leads to a session of finding something interesting in the browser history.) < 1417871147 885090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has never tried.
< 1417871167 186191 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*doubt < 1417871173 106792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :TENSES, I SAID < 1417871178 34312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or persons, technically < 1417871185 611725 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: even if the CD works, many of the links won't :) < 1417871185 755858 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Oh, I also do all browsing in "incognito mode". < 1417871191 829792 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Ah. < 1417871192 862453 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1417871198 199414 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for things that I want to save for later. Those become tabs in the regular browser window. < 1417871218 621261 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to work on my paranoia :P < 1417871226 511025 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: whiona < 1417871239 672615 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1417871243 835334 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no paranoia benefit here. My traffic still gets logged. < 1417871256 189116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't like purple links, or something. < 1417871351 796901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hates sites that _thwart_ his ability to see whether links are visited.
< 1417871360 205295 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417871368 295531 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :either by styling, or by having stupid redirection. < 1417871389 416558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm looking at you, blogspot < 1417871445 67895 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1417871453 640588 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1417871459 635276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i guess it's stupid of IE not to log both the pre- and post-redirection url < 1417871459 934796 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417871468 845696 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1417871472 245223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno what other browsers do, of course < 1417871538 954094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but an ideal browser should (1) log both post- and pre-redirection (2) have some kind of these-urls-are-equivalent database (3) refuse to use the same styling for visited and unvisited links < 1417871646 308187 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417871719 175939 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a:visited { text-decoration: blink } < 1417871724 566530 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i also wish reddit had a view setting that was simply "reverse posting order" < 1417871735 17894 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1417871745 888012 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417871774 524415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(iirc "new" browsing only shows the very last new posts) < 1417871785 771183 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best web sites make links look identical to paragraph text. < 1417871810 998255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best web sites for hunting down and killing, i take < 1417871813 607320 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but then it would start out as "dinnareadit, dinnareadit, ..." instead of "reddit, reddit, reddit..." < 1417871827 779390 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: O KAY < 1417871902 719870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and for reddit _comments_, i occasionally have wished that the slightly better new order there looked at the newest undeleted post in the subthread rather than its top ancestor < 1417871943 863227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because my entire use case for "new" in reddit comments is to find new comments in old threads < 1417872058 523507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you these days i somehow barely manage to keep up with r/haskell, much less the larger subreddits i used to follow. < 1417872387 631203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh anarchy golf won't load < 1417872433 123963 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which leads me to another feature i'd want: if the site doesn't reload, i'd like it to keep showing me the old version of the page < 1417872472 852853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because like, the last thing i do before reloading that page was take note of the last thing i'd seen < 1417872478 256008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*did < 1417872504 23245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it worked second time < 1417872620 415078 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1417872773 391935 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never got into slashdot, and I didn't get into reddit. Instead I'm annoyed when people link to reddit instead of the original articles. < 1417872842 179842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION glares at int-e
< 1417872875 773397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but without the reddit link, how will you know why the original article is bullshit! < 1417872889 371134 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll use my own judgement? < 1417872903 733650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds brittle to me < 1417872913 297407 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that's a dying concept. < 1417872957 528941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also sometimes the reddit link tells you relevant information without which you cannot make a sensible judgement.) < 1417872992 137456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess, sometimes the reddit discussion is more interesting than the original link. i certainly don't always click on the latter. < 1417873032 829738 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid JOIN :#esoteric < 1417873137 279674 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://xkcd.com/386/ I guess that's the reason why I avoid reddit. < 1417873157 325361 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or one reason, at least. < 1417873561 725086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i have an alias in my bashrc of pulseaudiodieinafire <-- i note it's longer than what it expands to. might still be faster to type i guess < 1417873700 265415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote at one point I'm pretty sure I fixed a sound problem with "apt-get remove pulseaudio" and it wasn't even installed < 1417873751 429774 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1224) at one point I'm pretty sure I fixed a sound problem with "apt-get remove pulseaudio" and it wasn't even installed < 1417873769 990260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1417873772 397511 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1417873778 203647 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1417874490 337202 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417874616 661491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bod ettermilygdag < 1417874835 691651 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION does inarticulate chewbacca cries
< 1417874852 92040 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bon matœrjan) < 1417874903 49702 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan : pulseaudiodieinafire is easy to type hth < 1417874930 917861 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially when you're angry i assume < 1417875022 900433 :MoALTz_!~no@user-46-113-127-236.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1417875104 996093 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed it is hard to remeber space when youre angry < 1417875119 723305 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morening. < 1417875141 582875 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohayou gozaimasu < 1417875229 174410 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-113-127-236.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1417875281 723147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :o hai yourself < 1417875287 479536 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1417875300 51348 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chellouid. < 1417875311 135682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm wondering if that inspired the lolcat thing < 1417875360 412843 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what an egregious smipeeling of celluloid tdnh < 1417875363 30376 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1417875390 475047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or possibly cthulhuoid < 1417875419 616874 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cluid is difficult to hello. let's check the official version... < 1417875426 740171 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ello cluid < 1417875428 87955 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ello: not found < 1417875431 1984 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1417875433 239080 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the problem that pulseaudio is supposed to solve anyway... < 1417875435 424308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1417875460 96633 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it multiplexes audio between several apps < 1417875470 323755 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it's kinda like jack, but not? < 1417875492 276781 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it is supported by ubuntu for whatever reason < 1417875515 339670 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: mmm. http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/rev/cd658f881a6a < 1417875515 773648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: e.g., application-level volume contro < 1417875518 138054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*control < 1417875529 777976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and network audio < 1417875552 134037 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, network audio is important. not. < 1417875556 758176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: stealth sabotage by elliotts, i see < 1417875570 939309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to you < 1417875591 673864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also EQing < 1417875607 330174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :changing output device on the fly < 1417875630 910291 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I WAS LOOKING UP THAT < 1417875641 607262 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417875647 201893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I can't remember the last time I heard someone actually having problems with pulseaudio as opposed to just remembering having a bunch of problems with it, to be honest < 1417875674 355886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Beware of int-e's evil twin oerjan | Beware of ricocheting jokes | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1417875692 246805 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ørjan < 1417875697 80492 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well, I uninstalled the thing, so all my pulseaudio troubles are in the past, for now. < 1417875700 938579 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers. < 1417875703 136826 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did anyone fix the k-on fuck page < 1417875709 516935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cluid: fix how < 1417875719 399644 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i explained earlier < 1417875746 507530 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: But I do remember what the problem was: about a second of delay between stopping a movie and the audio stopping, in xine, and a matching delay on restarting the movie. < 1417875755 689674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cluid: in that case, i missed it < 1417875767 814328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xine @_@ < 1417875805 150194 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use it for playing DVDs *shrugs8 < 1417875826 805107 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mplayer masterrace! < 1417875828 47042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, not finding your explanation < 1417875831 397692 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it's usually mplayer these days. < 1417875906 860071 :S1!~S1@pD9FCAB9D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1417875920 524755 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-51.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1417876013 729728 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia JOIN :#esoteric < 1417876138 390615 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1417876542 685986 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have problems with pulseaudio still. mostly to do with too many volume controls. < 1417876655 457911 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you need an application volume control when the applications already provide one? < 1417876693 112849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't, necessarily. < 1417876707 916008 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they shouldn't have to (why should every program implement its own redundant audio functionality?) < 1417876745 980565 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And sometimes the application volume control == the pulseaudio one, if it's a pulse-native thing. < 1417876765 118620 :S1!~S1@pD9FCAB9D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: S1 < 1417876777 776373 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I can't think of an example offhand. < 1417876941 716444 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I use vlc to play everything, and when pulseaudio is installed there are then three volume controls < 1417876945 242455 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417877055 365738 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and besides i have a physical volume conrol on my headphones < 1417877090 420960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds like the worst reason to killall pulseaudio < 1417877109 237392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do nerds love complaining so much < 1417877113 85662 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a usability problem < 1417877140 2602 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be only one volume control or failing in that two < 1417877153 716168 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not four < 1417877155 167867 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can remove the (useless) VLC volume control with "Tools/Customize interface", and you don't have to ever touch or even see the PA per-application volume control for VLC (if that's all you ever use). < 1417877171 962750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were just advocating for application-specific volume control, i.e. volume control proliferation < 1417877206 690920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean I just don't think this state of affairs actually causes you any hardship but whatever. now I'm "enjoying" complaining about complaining < 1417877268 608244 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is an annoyance... so i pkill -9 pulseaudio to reset its volume < 1417877294 459876 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you also rip off the power cable to shut down your computer? < 1417877359 891335 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i could < 1417877371 224250 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :on msdos you can < 1417877402 649644 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just hit the power switch < 1417877432 61316 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no reason why these interfaces have to be so complicated < 1417877462 203523 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Re the cost function, it was too silly to explain, sorry. < 1417877540 258092 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it is easier to kill pulseaudio than figure out which volume control is turned down or up. < 1417877609 21146 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill first, ask questions later-- a good policy in life < 1417877613 99189 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417877663 102197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i assume it was a quantum cost < 1417877677 87731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or as they say in italian, quanta costa < 1417877700 149551 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1417877713 368073 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417877717 15409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*quanto < 1417877778 570348 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I'm missing a joke here. < 1417877805 812551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least. < 1417877849 128577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(quanto costa is like one of the obvious tourist italian expressions) < 1417877858 806992 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuanta costa means how much does this cost in spanish < 1417877925 619552 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuánto cuesta says wiktionary < 1417877952 804136 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: btw I hope you're not trying to imply that you're the good twin. you're evil, too :) < 1417877956 492976 :nys!~Fuzzbucke@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1417877959 326152 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks
< 1417877975 568594 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I cannot read but why do I have to keep demonstrating it... < 1417877981 144227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DUNNO < 1417880877 536830 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417880985 327978 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1417880992 602915 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417881216 367774 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417881295 621215 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1417881301 123503 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417881457 518506 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417881489 741240 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lnvmjotrpcvpzqmf JOIN :#esoteric < 1417881602 148923 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1417881602 634630 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417881656 323766 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: INTERPUNCT CHICKEN < 1417881804 307545 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fractran is so cool < 1417881819 623132 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see the self interpreter that someone wrote? < 1417881823 274089 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they made up a whole new notation for it < 1417881902 898852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure i have once < 1417882038 348132 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1417882051 594279 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a kind of highr level fractran < 1417882179 403706 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1176000251.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Quit: going to school < 1417882197 397898 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1417882198 2486 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1417883245 589491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1417883637 837070 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im impressed that someone managed to program that < 1417883646 812125 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what other fractran programs are there people have written? < 1417883652 155747 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw the prime sieve but i dont know how even that work < 1417884180 382133 :nys!~Fuzzbucke@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1417884565 372394 :cluid!~cluid@unaffiliated/cluid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1417887047 232183 :password2!~password@197.76.148.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417887066 794531 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1417887073 838508 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1417887379 133108 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1417887531 243649 :password2!~password@197.76.148.162 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1417887569 468018 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what character for right shift and left shift? < 1417887599 678413 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe unicode » and « < 1417887712 150449 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe just one character, using negative numbers for the other shift < 1417887983 250008 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd prefer to keep everything ascii < 1417887990 681083 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think « and » are very good, semantically. There's always ≪ and ≫ but possibly they aren't very good either. < 1417887994 28881 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: no, ≪ and ≫ I believe < 1417888000 535231 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they're more obscure as far as characters go. < 1417888013 605114 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: doesn't Knuth use ≪ in volume 4? < 1417888065 817405 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For shift, you mean? I wouldn't know, I haven't read any of the Volume 4 stuff. < 1417888068 194564 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of like those characters < 1417888071 718909 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, for shift < 1417888086 891853 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ≪ < 1417888089 191781 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they do already have a mathematical meaning. Still. < 1417888092 317458 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+226A MUCH LESS-THAN \ UTF-8: e2 89 aa UTF-16BE: 226a Decimal: ≪ \ ≪ \ Category: Sm (Symbol, Math) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ Character is mirrored < 1417888100 678949 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ≫ < 1417888102 845138 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+226B MUCH GREATER-THAN \ UTF-8: e2 89 ab UTF-16BE: 226b Decimal: ≫ \ ≫ \ Category: Sm (Symbol, Math) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ Character is mirrored < 1417888104 481565 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm i think better to use one chracter for both shifts < 1417888116 658870 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1417888118 675740 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm < 1417888123 325602 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are doublewidth, aren't they? < 1417888128 32508 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just not rendering right in my terminal < 1417888174 475933 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at any rate, I'm supposed to see two arrows, right? < 1417888174 620044 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about capital K < 1417888179 279651 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they're in any official sense doublewidth. < 1417888192 443417 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, yeah, it's just awful font < 1417888200 368974 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode « < 1417888202 660106 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+00AB LEFT-POINTING DOUBLE ANGLE QUOTATION MARK \ UTF-8: c2 ab UTF-16BE: 00ab Decimal: « \ « \ Category: Pi (Punctuation, Initial quote) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ Character is mirrored < 1417888245 316093 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternative suggestion: 《 and 》 < 1417888253 139813 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(these suggestions are even worse. don't use them) < 1417888262 79930 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ⋘ b → a ≪ b. < 1417888271 77285 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ⋘ < 1417888273 287667 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+22D8 VERY MUCH LESS-THAN \ UTF-8: e2 8b 98 UTF-16BE: 22d8 Decimal: ⋘ \ ⋘ \ Category: Sm (Symbol, Math) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ Character is mirrored < 1417888273 986087 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm < 1417888280 607809 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 《 < 1417888283 388896 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+300A LEFT DOUBLE ANGLE BRACKET \ UTF-8: e3 80 8a UTF-16BE: 300a Decimal: 《 \ 《 \ Category: Ps (Punctuation, Open) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ Character is mirrored < 1417888287 327511 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting that *that* renders as doublewidth on my terminal < 1417888311 745091 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like ⋖ and ⋗ would be good bit-shift characters < 1417888311 972465 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is used in chinese for some quotes i think < 1417888324 92890 :password2!~password@197.76.145.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417888366 146379 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ⋚ b. < 1417888403 454693 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("LESS-THAN EQUAL TO OR GREATER-THAN") < 1417888451 489724 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think i will just use K for now, and add super special unicode chars in another version (scrip8?) < 1417888469 389762 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 8 stands for utf-8 < 1417888481 467520 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, a = b → a ≸ b. < 1417888505 296437 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas scrip7 will be limited to 7-bit ascii < 1417888595 606434 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ≸ < 1417888598 183602 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+2278 NEITHER LESS-THAN NOR GREATER-THAN \ UTF-8: e2 89 b8 UTF-16BE: 2278 Decimal: ≸ \ ≸ \ Category: Sm (Symbol, Math) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ Character is mirrored \ Decomposition: 2276 0338 < 1417888627 191686 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I'm waiting for scripEBDIC < 1417888681 527103 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have another idea for a language with its own code page but i will wait for chrismas break to make it < 1417888699 110928 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it willuse all 256 bytes for printing chars < 1417889088 604779 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also-- an esoteric markup language < 1417889813 669918 :nys!~nys@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1417890311 990320 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417890481 651802 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417890977 608563 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417891150 330896 :password2!~password@197.76.145.132 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1417891224 605971 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I've never gotten why those characters exist... < 1417891329 532275 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417891337 94410 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :'those characters' being ⋚ and such < 1417891340 102305 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps just for consistency < 1417891361 557380 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone gave me a plausible explanation, but I've forgotten it already. < 1417891362 623765 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: "comparable", in a partial ordering? < 1417891395 367920 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking about that, but I think the plausible thing I heard of had something to do with why both ⋚ and ⋛ are needed. < 1417891464 938860 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If putting one thing above another is read as "or", I'd expect them to mean the same thing. < 1417891496 906609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, there's both ± and ∓ < 1417891497 972679 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also things like ≨ which I guess is just < except it's more explicit about the ≠ part. < 1417891538 337255 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen ± and ∓ used in some sort of a case where "a ± b ∓ c" means "a + b - c or a - b + c". < 1417891687 856130 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could extend that interpretation to make "a ⋚ b → b ⋛ a" say "a < b → b > a; a = b → b = a; a > b → b < a" on one line, but it doesn't seem very useful in general. < 1417891718 758851 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1417892116 425773 :MDream!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417892136 262173 :MDream!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess I'll make the dolphin thread after lunch if someone else hasn't. < 1417892142 719991 :MDream!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://lainchan.org/r/res/5364.html Also, this spam. < 1417892145 597480 :MDream!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 NICK :MDude < 1417892161 867777 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was kind fo hoping it'd be a crudly edited mod of Toontown. < 1417892205 611119 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ttml14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=41376 5* 03Orenwatson 5* (+2222) 10created page and chart of controls. < 1417892287 665034 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hay luk guise i made an awful thing! < 1417892405 798829 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fantastic < 1417892491 761738 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use this instead of boring old TeX < 1417892510 500709 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and make your paper look likeit was made in 1948 < 1417892515 703979 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1417892522 227611 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an interpreter for it already? < 1417892531 44665 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/compiler < 1417892531 370309 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but i am working on it < 1417892533 931855 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1417892542 560367 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will make jpega < 1417892547 861964 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*jpegs < 1417892557 336918 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :one for each page < 1417892603 851288 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can make subscripts/superscripts by moving down a half-line like in the old days < 1417892615 138546 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have an example 1948 paper? < 1417892643 944510 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but my father has some from 1957 in the soviet union < 1417892652 509957 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1417892661 763055 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have aleph written in by hand with a pen < 1417892677 477749 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be cool to see < 1417892706 593075 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway so i thought, what if i were to hand in an assignment wirtten like that? < 1417892729 790331 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417892732 265739 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they would be freaked, out < 1417892762 488890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would find ⋚ with a big slash through it useful. < 1417892772 199937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you indicate that things aren't comparable? < 1417892798 477493 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not with a giant scribble < 1417892846 785095 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1417892895 921343 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it appeard from wiki that you use // < 1417892977 302086 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe that's because they got tired of scribbling < 1417893045 554251 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1417893063 701638 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :⋚ < 1417893164 151510 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ⋚̸ < 1417893177 784107 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+22DA LESS-THAN EQUAL TO OR GREATER-THAN \ UTF-8: e2 8b 9a UTF-16BE: 22da Decimal: ⋚ \ ⋚ \ Category: Sm (Symbol, Math) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ Character is mirrored \ \ U+0338 COMBINING LONG SOLIDUS OVERLAY \ UTF-8: cc b8 UTF-16BE: 0338 Decimal: ̸ \ ̸ \ Category: Mn (Mark, Non-Spacing) \ Bidi: NSM (Non-Spacing Mark) \ Com < 1417893222 437961 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :⋚̷ < 1417893250 407242 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've broken XChat by posting that < 1417893262 6447 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can now make multiple text selections somehow < 1417893274 641496 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolololol < 1417893303 542761 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah there is the scribble character < 1417893427 257067 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway i will eventually post an implementation of TTML < 1417893472 685900 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember that fungeiod IDE I was making < 1417893479 85191 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah? < 1417893481 101467 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can now scroll (wow) < 1417893492 875380 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :awsome. scrolling is important < 1417893497 596461 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mhm < 1417893525 797163 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can go up and down < 1417893552 405277 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :next you should make the cursor able to move in any direction. e.g. so that you can write 'a' and then the cursor will be below it < 1417893567 589695 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or behind it or above it < 1417893582 541894 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I'm doing < 1417893591 794774 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is if you write, < for example < 1417893631 319306 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cursor will go to the left < 1417893649 91651 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ will make it go up < 1417893657 891807 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :v will make it go down < 1417893687 187412 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For now I'm coding it with respect to my own fungeoid < 1417893692 199673 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I will add profiles < 1417893738 710489 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could possibly make this my first legit program < 1417893751 424837 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just have to set up github < 1417893755 117721 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, git < 1417893761 57891 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :awsome, legit. < 1417893767 916479 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I don't know how to do < 1417893778 882248 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i usually use svn can't help you there < 1417893785 724770 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :git is confusing as hell < 1417893794 384241 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually use the GUI application on windows :/ < 1417893824 280744 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know how to use gists.... I guess I'll just do that, hah < 1417893860 500876 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/CrazyM4n/d02380667be743be1310 < 1417893876 317879 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not much yet, but it's getting there < 1417894002 201170 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. if it helps i can post my ncurses spreadsheet program < 1417894020 402790 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is very bad still becuase i stopped working on it < 1417894036 489602 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I've wanted to learn ncurses for a long time < 1417894044 108967 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a good learning experience < 1417894057 948519 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I would look at it if you posted it though < 1417894116 159629 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric : │ | 1310 │ mitchs < 1417894122 8263 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, my bad < 1417894128 698307 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1417894211 826564 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/cN3e35J9 this is (iirc) the only file in it that uses ncurses < 1417894244 329846 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shows how to get control and alt characters < 1417894272 953964 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'll be useful < 1417894281 939172 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically control characters are c-'@' and alt is char 27 followed by the character < 1417894284 232955 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, uh, I broke something on a giant scale < 1417894300 728407 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm? < 1417894320 685812 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know, try running the script < 1417894323 954028 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1417894403 298791 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :duuude no tabs in python... bad! < 1417894453 781001 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :change your tabs into spaces < 1417894533 316127 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the tabs aren't even being pasted when i copy it < 1417894555 910305 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1417894569 399361 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll change them to spaces, but I personally have no opinion on the matter < 1417894580 402644 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.githubusercontent.com/CrazyM4n/d02380667be743be1310/raw/5f0759d39f34749afcd77ffdfe6d986d11ae80bf/ide.py < 1417894591 208608 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Copy from there < 1417894623 281398 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What have I done http://i.imgur.com/U9q1zA6.png < 1417894714 168711 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cursor doesn't move when i type but other than that seems ok < 1417894737 175340 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :except when i move cursor off scrren it does not scroll < 1417894779 415408 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it instead throws an exception < 1417894781 131156 :MDude!~fyrc@67.235.2.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait why did I say all that in the wrong channel. < 1417894786 895405 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? For me it does a TON of other stuff < 1417894859 613521 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get it now... < 1417894866 54137 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For whatever reason < 1417894901 844243 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cursor goes in the correct direction, but when I type, it goes to a spot as if all of my cursor movements were rotated < 1417895098 867070 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't do taht for me < 1417895107 817378 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I swap the coordinates in the addch call, it works, but if it doesn't do that for you... < 1417895111 399488 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What OS are you on? < 1417895117 194783 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :linux < 1417895120 820820 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :xubuntu < 1417895120 968942 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :terminal? < 1417895129 76429 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :xfce4-terminal < 1417895175 310655 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, all the coords in ncurses are y,x. < 1417895186 436791 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on lubuntu and it happens to me under both terminator and lxterm < 1417895204 722848 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but the coords come straight out of getyx < 1417895226 853579 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the coords are y,x in getyx too < 1417895232 308205 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1417895314 13407 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bug report time? < 1417895353 239520 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xubuntu++ < 1417895361 244278 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus plus? < 1417895371 164773 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like Xubuntu < 1417895386 600877 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would probably be using it right now, if I weren't using Windows < 1417895410 559099 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"++" from my experience is slang for "is awesome" < 1417895417 38136 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda based on things like C++ < 1417895418 683596 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ = awesome C? < 1417895431 780806 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ = pathetic, bloated C. < 1417895449 28304 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CrazyM4n: not in particular < 1417895449 171997 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Notepad++ = pathetic, bloated notepad? < 1417895457 551194 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Notepad++ is pretty awesome < 1417895463 349265 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but C++ should not be used in the same purpose as C < 1417895468 205122 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way < 1417895520 898226 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all c++ programmers should just write rust < 1417895580 86835 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that earlier versions of C++ were decent. it only got bad recently < 1417895591 161749 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1417895638 381419 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I make the cursor not move when I call addstr? < 1417895653 416847 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. use noecho < 1417895661 661242 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Already did < 1417895666 435908 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CrazyM4n: do you know termbox? < 1417895666 579563 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what wrapper() does < 1417895686 517002 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but now I do < 1417895694 99165 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1417895741 484381 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, use mvprint? < 1417895746 51555 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing i find interesting about it is the easyness of porting < 1417895746 195202 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or mvaddstr < 1417895760 647708 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's... weird seeing a commercial for lego minecraft < 1417895762 714628 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, mvaddstr should work < 1417895767 831253 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A game I saw in development < 1417895784 305036 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and get chars with mvgetch < 1417895795 895321 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, I saw it before The End was added, and the commercial referenced The End) < 1417895826 286492 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :minecraft people should grow some guts and go play dwarf fortress < 1417895839 376267 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :+1 dorfortress < 1417895846 288465 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I found the problem < 1417895857 450530 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :addch uses x, y coordinates instead of y, x < 1417895864 197986 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1417895890 416846 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf??? why python has to mess that up? < 1417895898 530395 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't like that in C < 1417895904 277261 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really love terminal applications, but ncurses is a pain in the ass to write imo < 1417895913 18549 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in C it isnt < 1417895922 259651 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got rid of the coord arguments < 1417895927 308781 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's listed as y, x in the docs < 1417895931 34206 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it doesn't work like that < 1417895946 202566 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I just am letting it put the char at the cursor (which is what I want, anyway) < 1417895973 304387 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CrazyM4n: what are you going to write? < 1417895984 798738 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing a fungeoid IDE < 1417895989 588295 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1417896020 829422 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly i love python but some of its libraries are messed up < 1417896033 881592 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just kidding, it doesn't work now < 1417896041 932137 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, it literally just doesn't do anything < 1417896122 228571 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: there are alternatives to ncurses though < 1417896132 791249 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :termbox is the one i know < 1417896136 187307 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else is there? < 1417896141 548943 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :libtickit is the one I know of < 1417896180 438842 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have done stuff by outputting ansi sequences < 1417896189 679882 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a viable alternative < 1417896202 68841 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is essentially what libtickit abstracts < 1417896220 498694 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all these libraries < 1417896230 383351 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, termbox cannot handle mouse < 1417896233 304025 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, most of them seem to not pare ansi sequences sanely < 1417896236 707106 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse* < 1417896241 244568 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that much of a drawback imho < 1417896271 834363 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :most terminals you mean? < 1417896283 559373 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. vim doesn't--it barfs if you feed it valid escape sequences that it just happens to not be familiar with (yet follows the grammar of escape sequences defined by ECMA-35 < 1417896285 799726 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1417896321 680578 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: no, I mostly mean the application side of things, though I guess both are problematic < 1417896324 280227 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would an editor need to parse them? < 1417896364 301016 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am talking about stuff like printf("\33[45m"); < 1417896369 432263 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because special keystrokes such as ctrl+enter, delete, F1 and stuff are encoded an escape sequecnes? < 1417896370 624543 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tickit doesn't look any smaller than ncurses < 1417896370 949875 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :sequences* < 1417896373 533332 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Rust a good language for implementing esolangs? < 1417896384 114491 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/is/will it be/ < 1417896402 304524 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i don't see why it wouldn't < 1417896418 333305 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will have pattern matching < 1417896422 9007 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else do you ened < 1417896438 451788 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i see. yeah i have also done that. you can parse them yourself with some ad-hoc code < 1417896448 145268 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :whichever ones you need < 1417896489 449275 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I found the python ncurses source < 1417896490 990315 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wish me luck < 1417896519 644011 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd prefer if vim said something like "unsupported escape sequence" or just silently ignored it, rather than treating it as "Esc" "[" "35" "u" or whatever, causing all sorts of annoyingness < 1417896523 242340 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck1 < 1417896562 592947 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm my editor appears to ignore anything weird < 1417896568 142785 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mcedit < 1417896686 975325 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe TTML should support the upper control characters (C1)? < 1417896720 687113 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of the python module is just interfacing with _curses, which is a .so file < 1417896751 484961 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the bugs are probably easily fixable < 1417896771 319646 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :addch() is in that .so file < 1417896788 148600 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. someone borked the argument order in the interface < 1417896826 237162 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the curses module doesn't even have the interface < 1417896848 670135 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1417896854 358918 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole interface is a couple of initialized variables and an import _curses < 1417896878 895812 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh... ok i have no idea how that works < 1417896901 688484 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use C or pyhton i've never used both in one program < 1417896942 62420 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did the .so come from? < 1417896983 695234 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's most likely a compiled C thingy < 1417896997 201720 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably just curses < 1417897016 818507 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, the C library < 1417897054 915947 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can't be, it's only 93 kb < 1417897103 565960 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp, I guess it's safe to say that it's probably time to reinstall python unless someone wants to give me their _curses.cpython-34m-x86_64-linux-gnu.so file < 1417897164 462878 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://svn.python.org/projects/python/trunk/Modules/_cursesmodule.c btw < 1417897359 364040 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1417897497 702375 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm JOIN :#esoteric < 1417897661 987527 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@c-73-31-240-150.hsd1.wv.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417897672 252873 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@c-73-31-240-150.hsd1.wv.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1417897672 397051 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1417897688 82335 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, apparently the C code in _cursesmodule.c is all correct < 1417897692 564406 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where could the error be then? < 1417897726 535762 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ttml14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41377&oldid=41376 5* 03Orenwatson 5* (+140) 10 < 1417898174 734881 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1417898302 337145 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still doing curses CrazyM4n < 1417898324 273215 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1417898336 164780 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found out that my python install was probably broken < 1417898363 188002 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reinstall < 1417898373 171085 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also ive had the same problem before < 1417898398 185172 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the files was corrupted so idk if thats fixed or not < 1417898416 776751 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must go charge < 1417898579 575569 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1417899270 77382 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I'm so confused < 1417899285 693448 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I need is someone to run https://gist.githubusercontent.com/CrazyM4n/d02380667be743be1310/raw/cb4de1cb60ddd68493a8f2354c5e1a33ccd6528c/ide.py and tell me what it does for them < 1417899289 476603 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But nobody will D: < 1417899462 993007 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll do it hold on 1 sec < 1417899486 102337 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1417899491 741992 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I can do it, oo. once I install python on this computer... < 1417899496 552286 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/oo/too/ < 1417899508 437983 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to push an arrow key to get output < 1417899588 786098 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it goes to the space i want, then when i write a char it goes back to the position 4,3. < 1417899602 88988 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :then when i move again it goes back where i was < 1417899623 786111 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where does it put the F? < 1417899626 232511 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*f < 1417899660 530370 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :line 4, column 2 < 1417899669 823235 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1 based index) < 1417899681 43835 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just like that, I give up < 1417899701 342328 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :write in C < 1417899716 664978 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to use python < 1417899721 239437 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I might be forced to use C < 1417899737 638568 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :write i c, write in c, write in c, oh write in c, don't even mention cobol, write in c < 1417899755 456379 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on, C is classic. C is an ever-faithful servant < 1417899771 756720 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :who does exactly as she's told < 1417899772 706847 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just need to test my ncurses < 1417899774 194984 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: YES. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4YRPdRXKFs < 1417899875 740441 :S1!~S1@pD9FCAB9D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1417899887 562831 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas C++ is a fat man in meido-fuku. < 1417899898 231018 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just isn't the same < 1417899922 819744 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, the C implementation works < 1417899936 185166 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... I guess python curses is absolutely broken < 1417900243 373034 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bugs.python.org/issue21088 praise the lords it's fixed < 1417900266 814354 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: what is the output of python -v < 1417900312 1133 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.7.6 < 1417900352 717089 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes sense, this bug only affects 3.4.0 < 1417900358 455582 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is what I'm running < 1417900363 781642 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, python < 1417900370 591902 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :python 3 sucks < 1417900379 430244 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that language where you can choose between buggy and deprecated < 1417900387 427619 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :python 2 forever < 1417900409 903115 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1417900413 295033 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i and b tags are deprecated too, so what? < 1417900428 764803 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1417900442 259346 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just chose python because it's easier to install on windows than ruby < 1417900455 219849 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like ruby as a language way more than python < 1417900465 897690 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the libraries around it are horrible < 1417900469 155444 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me too, shame it's so much slower < 1417900479 285659 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby is cool but can't handle unicode worth a damn and its slow < 1417900482 1091 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The libraries are rather good imho, they just don't work on windows < 1417900547 652395 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just don't work on 1.9+ < 1417900557 534506 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least not after the next update < 1417900565 357965 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C90 will be good to us forever < 1417900568 592730 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because hey, fuck api stability < 1417900632 42318 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. like i'mma change scrip7 so all the literals are different. fuck stability, safety and shit. < 1417900651 906339 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is ok for an esolang but srsly Ruby? < 1417900676 86784 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ruby is just the crappy sequel to Perl < 1417900681 515404 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I love both of those languages < 1417900684 792648 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's k < 1417900685 245009 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1417900695 84696 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby is 110% syntax sugar < 1417900695 791022 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl 6 is the crappy sequel to Perl < 1417900697 972310 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that part < 1417900707 223620 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't talk about Perl 6 < 1417900722 455862 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it literally will never take off < 1417900728 823123 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is DOA < 1417900745 793515 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't need new perl imho < 1417900760 155412 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We already have old perl and it's good enough :P < 1417900788 715857 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly. my dad has cgi scripts that he wrote in 1995 and still work < 1417900798 412188 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's awesome < 1417900805 431478 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do we need any of this new crap? < 1417900808 30431 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact, perl will turn 27 in 12 days < 1417900825 276347 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so will i) < 1417900848 725808 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the only thing i like about it < 1417900855 580303 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa. you have the same birthday as Perl? < 1417900860 201216 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You were born on the day Perl was born? < 1417900864 815359 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do < 1417900868 120870 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's epic < 1417900873 534413 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :brofist < 1417900878 312315 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you by any chance a dollar sign and a bunch of random garbage characters? < 1417900878 931015 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1417900885 341446 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1417900889 208434 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :heavy karma < 1417900902 533280 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only in #esoteric :D < 1417900930 120501 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to learn perl. I love it for what it does and how well it works and it's codegolfability, but I don't actually know it < 1417900947 192079 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also learn golfscript < 1417900955 544678 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1417900970 678619 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But golfscript is written in ruby *shudder* < 1417900970 933849 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :useing a language designed for golfing is cheating imo < 1417900979 105473 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1417901008 598345 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: what about J? < 1417901020 314588 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl was designed to put sed awk and tcl in one language < 1417901036 348355 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CrazyM4n: if you're still looking for someone to run that script, I may be able to help now. Though it looks like oren was able to help you < 1417901049 352145 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :J was designed to be APL in ascii < 1417901055 327749 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I found the bug also < 1417901062 825560 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :glad to hear it < 1417901076 792188 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: it is perfect for golfing, though < 1417901099 561739 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :paul2520: http://bugs.python.org/issue21088 < 1417901137 261162 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CrazyM4n: ah. I see. < 1417901213 947758 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but it wasn't designed explicitly for brevity it just so happens that metafunctions make things short < 1417901356 798056 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417901481 842270 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417901490 869109 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HALLELUJAH < 1417901492 723430 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT WORKS < 1417901501 583259 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :howd you manage it < 1417901515 836965 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :had to install pyenv and install python 3.4.2 < 1417901528 517519 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took all day to fix something python broke < 1417901531 408744 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :screw that < 1417901931 813218 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1417902060 133985 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417902756 502807 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, scrolling actually works now < 1417902841 791709 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1417903084 814078 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1417903122 571119 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :howd you manage it < 1417903234 978124 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, lots of testing < 1417903529 296925 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gave up trying to implement ttml in C for now, and i'm writing a translator into html. < 1417903555 396780 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :using lots of absolutely positioned divs. < 1417903675 769230 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-51.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1417903971 209318 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm recording a gif of it < 1417904133 330208 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's glitchy still < 1417904531 396273 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/TnfNcXj.gifv < 1417904561 794971 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only glitch I found was writing off screen doesn't actually add the characters, just moves your cursor < 1417904826 19077 :MoALTz_!~no@user-46-113-127-236.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1417905083 535943 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1417905105 355503 :nys!~nys@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1417905185 79780 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixed it < 1417905266 613659 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it someone in here who linked to http://retroforth.org/docs/The_Ngaro_Virtual_Machine.html ? < 1417905292 255997 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember who I interacted with to find it >_< < 1417905301 202361 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a JS implementation < 1417905316 817409 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, minesweeper < 1417905339 829275 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not me, but that's cool < 1417905434 843666 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might have been a different network < 1417906290 991013 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :CrazyM4n: what is that gif < 1417906311 75394 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ttml14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41378&oldid=41377 5* 03Orenwatson 5* (-54) 10too hard to implement. will think of something else. < 1417906311 844387 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeMeat: my IDE so far < 1417906322 176193 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1417906329 347003 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done more since that gif < 1417906342 405634 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saving/loading files is almost done < 1417906354 829560 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does it look like random garbage > < 1417906361 736724 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I was hitting random keys :P < 1417906365 262117 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1417906377 658930 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny < 1417906408 408746 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Did you fix your python 3 troubles? < 1417906418 564918 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I had to install python 3.4.2 but it works well now < 1417906437 30149 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great < 1417906464 222831 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why didnt the python support channel help you? < 1417906470 275412 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doing other things < 1417906474 275862 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I presume < 1417906483 38782 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helpful < 1417906492 914718 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone told me to switch to a different framework < 1417906495 5682 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1417906503 147257 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1417906518 931351 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not use C ? < 1417906536 408205 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because python is easier < 1417906545 6784 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I haven't used C in so long, I'd have to relearn it < 1417906549 858388 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someday, but not today < 1417906562 912979 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, well python is easy < 1417906572 199519 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1417906591 75146 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't make it less powerful, and with PyPy if I bother to install it I can get speed comparable to C < 1417906634 269125 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you use a library < 1417906639 51135 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For? < 1417906643 942909 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stuff < 1417906654 839644 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I am using ncurses to draw the screen < 1417906664 694410 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which comes with python on linux < 1417906671 159348 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp < 1417906673 807751 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It won't work on windows, I just realized) < 1417906674 607384 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::c < 1417906690 640079 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/CrazyM4n/d02380667be743be1310 < 1417906700 883687 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are replacements for curses on windows < 1417906710 624204 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd just have to go through and change a little bit of stuff < 1417906744 429094 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my < 1417906754 606614 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm? < 1417906770 564351 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-51.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1417906771 933030 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :What version of windows do you use < 1417906800 983248 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lubuntu 14.04 :P < 1417906872 124053 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ive had bugs with lubuntu. did they fix any? < 1417906887 277825 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't run into too many troubles < 1417906891 256891 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What bugs have you had? < 1417907053 51507 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :use less windows < 1417907058 154725 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Installed half way and terminated Process < 1417907090 321968 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like if something wont install properly i wont really use it. < 1417907103 660861 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1417907137 519067 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I installed ubuntu < 1417907148 812032 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Decided I hated unity, installed xubuntu-desktop < 1417907158 123850 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Decided I hated xubuntu-desktop, installed lubuntu-desktop < 1417907164 928113 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't changed since < 1417907174 664645 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :straight to tiling wms :p < 1417907194 426430 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to use i3 for a while < 1417907197 23730 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keyword: tried < 1417907199 298333 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ive never liked ubuntu like products/ubuntu itself < 1417907266 63205 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am using herbstluft wm < 1417907303 289889 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like ubuntu much but I'm most used to it < 1417907310 540961 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to switch to arch but I haven't bothered < 1417907316 766009 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :go for it < 1417907465 287387 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arch linux with Antergos alt. But i should probably switch < 1417907692 780218 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1417907692 923876 :Patashu_!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1417907855 628112 :S1!~S1@pD9FCAB9D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: S1 < 1417908015 882529 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1417908135 577488 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1417908461 242601 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :finished: http://pastebin.com/0kifNgpd < 1417908487 3201 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well kind of. i'll make the greek and cyrillic escapes later < 1417908563 3394 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: what's that about? < 1417908579 417469 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ttml14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41379&oldid=41378 5* 03Orenwatson 5* (+64) 10add link to partial implementation < 1417908610 764302 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is an implementation of my teletype markup language < 1417908632 634533 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use actual ascii escapes or ^ codes < 1417908655 892319 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will translate to an html page < 1417908704 402257 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1417908745 121928 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1417908773 42752 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses one div for every character i will fix that later < 1417908783 601236 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amaze < 1417908805 237413 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :[-|] there, a maze < 1417908824 199552 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric ::I < 1417908850 67784 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :You took it to far oren /o/ < 1417908850 216267 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                           | < 1417908850 359661 :myndzi!myndzi@kingofstackers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                          /< < 1417908853 844502 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is that the result will look like a math paper from the 1950's < 1417908861 738216 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once again myndzi < 1417908901 866843 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :A math paper from the 1950's how do you know what that looks like < 1417908926 581130 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my father has a bunch from his friends who escaped from the USSR < 1417909000 564945 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also my father's thesis looks similar; he wrote it on a selectric. < 1417909012 804081 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that was later obviously < 1417909062 486517 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it mimics the effect of a paper teletype < 1417909089 143482 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :with some additions such as limited color < 1417909104 834238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can download papers online y'know :p < 1417909143 275424 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You wouldn't download a car < 1417909186 218340 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...but what about downloading models for 3D printing a car? < 1417909202 613674 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next time you can make one to translate into ANSI instead of HTML, too < 1417909217 34022 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i have seen the original of my father's thesis "pseudocompact metacompact spaces are compact" and that inspired this < 1417909267 294138 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not understand the paper at all obviously < 1417909357 889686 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah i will figure that out. most terminal programs don't let you go down half a line so i don't think everyhting can be made to work < 1417909420 239106 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :going down half a line was common method to make sub/superscripts < 1417909444 627310 :CakeMeat!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqopewxbesllwdpm PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty cool < 1417909449 617575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a great thesis title < 1417909491 261889 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is hilarious because i asked him what metacompact is and he couldn't remember. < 1417909499 426729 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know what compact is < 1417909501 850863 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :These days it'd have a pithy saying in front, separated by dash. < 1417909533 57742 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya it would < 1417909549 395132 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia's [[Metacompact space]] cites "Pseudocompact metacompact spaces are compact". < 1417909585 782336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bananas in Space(s) (That Are Compact): Pseudocompact metacompact spaces are compact < 1417909587 89386 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One wonders if whoever added the citation read more than the title, since it's all there. < 1417909619 53371 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know... you don't even really need an abstract < 1417909647 957709 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have played Dungeons&Dragons game now I am writing recording and then you can read it please < 1417909682 688638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found the six "orden" books. < 1417909950 354266 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In 1950, Arens and Dugundji [1] defined metacompact spaces and showed (A) countably compact metacompact spaces are compact. It was known by then that paracompact spaces are normal and that normal pseudocompact spaces are countably compact. Since paracompact spaces are metacompact, (A) also showed (B) pseudocompact paracompact spaces are compact." < 1417909955 328754 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't understand any of it, but reading it made the word "compact" itself sound meaningless too. < 1417909989 289439 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes it sound like compact is not even an english word... < 1417909996 388963 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like some sort of mantra < 1417910010 10213 :CrazyM4n!~CrazyM4n@ip70-162-52-61.ph.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_satiation < 1417910291 216306 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah it turns out you can stick any latin/greek prefix onto compact and make a new class of topological space < 1417910369 402743 :oren!~oren@user3-218-58.wireless.utoronto.ca QUIT :Quit: dinnertime