00:00:08 <boily> oren: one thing I don't quite get is that sometimes it's かいしゃ, and other times it's がいしゃ. I highly suspect it's for euphonic reasons...
00:01:22 <Melvar> boily: rendaku / sequential voicing?
00:01:39 <pikhq> boily: Yep, just standard Japanese euphony.
00:01:51 <boily> Melvar: well, both forms are accepted and in wide usage. that's what's baffling me.
00:02:13 <pikhq> "kabushikigaisha" is more "correct".
00:02:25 <Melvar> boily: Things can get voiced if they’re a non-first element of a compound, is what that is.
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00:03:12 <oren> yah, essentially, kabushikigaisha is "public-company" while kabushikikaisha is "public company"
00:04:31 <oren> it depends on how closely you want it to sound compounded.
00:05:12 <oren> because 式 "style" is sort of an adjectival ending
00:06:08 <zzo38> I had idea of what kind of character could be had in the Smash Brothers game, if it were allowed to use function of Wii U gamepad for some characters. Professor Oak would be allowed to look on the touchscreen to know what kind of pokemons are in each pokeball on the screen, without opening it. Light Yagami can have one attack, you write the name of another character on the touchscreen and forty seconds later the target is instantly knocked out; it
00:06:15 <boily> oren: interesting. I never thought of 式 that way.
00:07:04 <boily> zzo38: I couldn't be playing the Yagami; my handwriting is too idiosyncratic.
00:07:30 <boily> oren: btw, I don't know your approximate geographic coördinates yet, and what is your body weigh?
00:07:57 <oren> boily: get this: you may notice many adjectives in japanese end in 的. in Mandarin, 的 is simply the genitive particle!
00:08:23 <oren> I live in Canada and i weigh 160 pounds.
00:08:34 <boily> oh, which province? :D
00:08:43 <oren> Toronto Ontario
00:08:48 <boily> 的 is the ubiquitous 的.
00:09:06 <boily> oren: ah, un ontarien!
00:10:01 <zzo38> O, I forgot actually it can be canceled if you are knocked out while writing down the name, but after it is written, the attack cannot be canceled unless the match has already ended or if the target has been knocked out and not recovered yet by the time 40 seconds have elapsed.
00:10:04 <nys> not the ontarites
00:10:32 <zzo38> That would then be the most powerful, and also the slowest, attack in the game.
00:10:56 <oren> i always play as Ike and bash people up
00:11:09 <boily> kirby is the most bestest of them all!
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00:13:22 <zzo38> No, I wanted to play as Professor Oak.
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00:16:18 <oren> i love this font. i love the way | is a heart.
00:16:46 <oren> i | this font. i | the way | is a |.
00:16:54 <zzo38> What kind of font is that?
00:17:44 <oren> http://snag.gy/bYC1F.jpg
00:19:00 <oren> this is my font from now on. i don't care if people say it's silly.
00:20:48 <oren> http://snag.gy/Z5AC1.jpg
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00:23:47 <|oren|> with the power of heart! http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=164
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00:24:43 <CrazyM4n> ;~; I was trying to set my name as abs(CrazyM4n) because |oren|
00:25:11 <|oren|> you can have {}|[]\ in name because of iso646
00:25:28 <|oren|> they were letters in scandinavian fonts
00:25:57 <|oren|> but you can't have () in name
00:29:21 <boily> neither *. I wanted a sparkling nick, dammit!
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00:46:21 <myname> anyone here using termite?
00:48:00 <|oren|> not me... i was unaware what that was
00:48:58 <boily> myname: as in, the thing that explodes?
00:49:11 <myname> as in, the terminal emulator
00:50:34 <boily> same; I didn't know there were such a thing as.
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00:52:17 <int-e> oerjan: oh this is instructive: u=unlines;main=interact(\x->u[u[z|y<-[n,n+2..7^6],z<-lines x,show y==z]|n<-[0,1]]) can be shortened to main=interact(unlines#);u#x=u[u[z|y<-[n,n+2..7^6],z<-lines x,show y==z]|n<-[0,1]]
00:52:31 <int-e> oerjan: (from http://golf.shinh.org/p.rb?partition+by+parity)
00:53:54 <abs{CrazyM4n}> Someone on reddit told me my code was slow and linked to their code golf which apparently ran faster
00:57:06 <|oren|> does casting unused return vals to void no longer work?
00:57:48 <|oren|> i really don't care how much fread read!
01:05:53 <Sgeo> http://www.example.com/#%foo
01:06:00 <Sgeo> Went into Chrome console
01:06:05 <Sgeo> document.URL ... breaks the console
01:06:14 <Sgeo> alert(document.URL) is fine
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01:21:26 <oerjan> shachaf: i think that's a bit premature
01:21:39 <shachaf> oerjan: unlike gg updates hth
01:26:38 <boily> the *lists should be parametrised over the comic they notify people of.
01:31:03 <boily> probably plug some machine learning through that, so that when you present `list with a new comic, it'll know which one it is, and who to notify.
01:31:20 <boily> fungot: can you predict comic schedules?
01:31:21 <fungot> boily: i believe that the human body does not catch fire.) so you'll return the procedure
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01:31:47 <boily> fungot: indeed. it was experimentially demonstrated that I do not catch fire. I wonder if you burn...
01:31:48 <fungot> boily: this problem is giving me some error in my algorithm and it was almost working, modulo a certain amount of reductions, you can
01:32:10 <boily> fungot: so you're not quite ready for that kind of predictions?
01:32:11 <fungot> boily: i think that specifing relative heading sizes is not only fnord.
01:32:33 <boily> fungot: ah, absence of fnord in the schedule headers. a classic mistake.
01:32:33 <fungot> boily: let me update sarah to the latest
01:32:51 <boily> fungot: so you're learning about to notifiees!
01:32:56 <boily> (btw, who's sarah?)
01:33:29 <HackEgo> boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department.
01:35:28 <HackEgo> shachaf sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends.
01:36:48 <HackEgo> zzo38 is not actually the next version of fungot, much as it may seem.
01:38:11 <zzo38> `? International Astronomical Conspiracy
01:38:12 <HackEgo> International Astronomical Conspiracy? ¯\(°_o)/¯
01:38:21 <HackEgo> C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault
01:38:26 <HackEgo> Along with C, C++ is a language for smart people.
01:38:31 <HackEgo> Unbound implicit parameter (?haskell::Wisdom) \ arising from a use of implicit parameter `?haskell'
01:40:07 <zzo38> `? assembly language
01:40:08 <HackEgo> assembly language? ¯\(°_o)/¯
01:40:33 <zzo38> `? Segmentation fault
01:40:33 <HackEgo> Segmentation fault? ¯\(°_o)/¯
01:40:41 <adu> HackEgo: wow
01:41:23 <adu> C++ is not the language for smart people
01:42:13 <adu> smart people learn from history
01:42:37 <adu> smart people define their problem domain before discussing it
01:42:50 <zzo38> I know that, but that is what someone wrote on HackEgo
01:43:09 <zzo38> `? Magic: the Gathering
01:43:09 <HackEgo> Magic: the Gathering? ¯\(°_o)/¯
01:43:19 <zzo38> `? Aberration Hater Card Game
01:43:20 <HackEgo> Aberration Hater Card Game? ¯\(°_o)/¯
01:43:36 <adu> what's the ascii art mean? does that mean 404?
01:43:51 <adu> `? brainfuck
01:43:52 <HackEgo> brainfuck is the integral of the family of terrible esolangs.
01:44:09 <zzo38> adu: Either the file doesn't exist or the text of the file contains that ASCII art
01:44:43 <adu> `? increment
01:45:35 <adu> so it doesn't search?
01:45:52 <adu> that's not very fun
01:46:40 <boily> adu: it's the Wisdom. for a formatted version of it, check the PDF in the /topic ↑
01:46:44 <zzo38> If you want to search, you can enter the search command by yourself, it is a UNIX program so you can use any UNIX command
01:47:18 <shachaf> you're either wisdom or you're againsdom
01:47:39 <HackEgo> Coulor is the correct spelling.
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01:48:26 <HackEgo> Colour is a phenomenon from outer space designed to drive humanity insane and bring forth the new age of Cthulhu.
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01:48:33 <HackEgo> facts are lies. They are not there. Go away!
01:49:44 <adu> I try to stay away from Pastafarianism
01:50:41 <boily> next thing you're going to say that you don't believe in ramen.
01:50:54 <adu> OMG I <3 Ramen
01:56:24 <boily> I prefer the original Chinese version.
01:56:39 <boily> (hmm... braised beef shank...)
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01:59:09 <boily> time to gravitate towards a mattress...
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02:01:35 * oerjan wonders if boily has a script for choosing fowl adjectives
02:03:55 <oerjan> `run sed -i 's/°/°/' wisdom/'`?'
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03:02:59 <HackEgo> wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø?
03:03:45 <zzo38> Do you like my stuff on All The Tropes so far?
03:03:49 <HackEgo> All The Tropes? ¯\(°_o)/¯
03:03:55 <zzo38> `? Iuckqlwviv Kjugobe
03:03:56 <HackEgo> Iuckqlwviv Kjugobe? ¯\(°_o)/¯
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03:23:11 <Sgeo> http://inception.davepedu.com/
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03:46:30 <abs{CrazyM4n}> I'm so done with bueue, I've been messing with it for like 10 min
03:50:01 <GeekDude> I've got to implement a line drawing function in lua
03:50:38 <abs{CrazyM4n}> Like, to output to images? Or in Löve or another similar thingy
03:51:28 <GeekDude> I am running lua on an embedded device
03:51:41 <GeekDude> I have graphics functions for three things
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03:52:28 <abs{CrazyM4n}> Ooo. Why lua though? Just because it's easy to implement?
03:52:59 <GeekDude> Well, my choices for alternate firmwares were C variants, Java, or lua
03:53:18 <GeekDude> a few of the C variants require $$$ licenses as well
03:53:38 <GeekDude> Also, the lua firmware just had an update for better float processing speed
03:53:52 <GeekDude> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego_Mindstorms_NXT
03:54:25 <GeekDude> I talk about these things a lot
03:57:45 <abs{CrazyM4n}> I'm writing a program that randomly generates BF programs
03:58:27 <GeekDude> keep writing BF until the list is sorted
03:59:35 <abs{CrazyM4n}> Just don't know how I'm going to generate the brackets
04:00:01 <abs{CrazyM4n}> Yeah, but the problem is making sure no pairs overlap
04:00:23 <GeekDude> Well, you're allowed to nest them, right?
04:00:45 <abs{CrazyM4n}> Oh, I can just make it place a corresponding ] in any place before the next [
04:00:46 <GeekDude> that's not two overlapping pairs
04:01:15 <abs{CrazyM4n}> wait... what I'm trying to prevent makes absolutely no sense
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04:51:26 <abs{CrazyM4n}> It seems to put an amount of garbage characters on the line
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04:57:08 <jslave> abs{CrazyM4n}: [SyntaxError] Unexpected token .
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04:57:36 <abs{CrazyM4n}> Oh, you have to use a REALLY forgiving BF interpreter
05:11:04 <adu> I should go to bed
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07:00:47 <Sgeo> `evilliouslist
07:00:48 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: evilliouslist: not found
07:00:52 <Sgeo> Wait, hmm. Not sure if it counts
07:00:53 <Sgeo> "12/12: New album entitled "The Seven Sins and Punishment" announced by Akuno-P! "
07:00:59 <Sgeo> Not yet released I guess
07:01:18 <Sgeo> To be released Feb. 25
07:02:10 * Sgeo counts between 2-4 new songs
07:02:29 <Sgeo> (Two songs I haven't seen before and wiki has no info, two songs with names to be released)
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09:52:51 <zzo38> Now I made up a more powerful version of POKEMON FLUTE card; it is called POKEMON ORCHESTRA. You have to discard another cards from your hand, but it is possible now to use not only with basic pokemon cards but also evolution cards and basic energy cards.
09:53:25 <b_jonas> zzo38: what's a pokemon flute? is it like an elvish piper?
09:54:09 <zzo38> It is card that let's you play one basic pokemon card from opponent's trash onto the opponent's play area (although the card remains inactive).
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09:57:42 <b_jonas> ah, so not Elvish Piper, but rather Rise from the Grave but only from an opponent's graveyard
10:00:53 <zzo38> Actually not quite like either of those M:tG cards. The card remains on opponent's side and isn't altered.
10:05:44 <zzo38> I don't know if there are any cards in Magic: the Gathering that are similar to the Pokemon Flute though.
10:08:49 <b_jonas> oh, you give your _opponent_ back a valuable card
10:21:37 <J_Arcane_> I had the most horrible dream last night. I dreamed that someone solved the let-alist macro I've been failing to solve for over a week, only I couldn't access the email. I woke at 6am grouchy and frustrated.
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11:11:54 <zzo38> Is there a Magic: the Puzzling where opponent has Gleemax on his side?
11:14:47 <oren> problem: find a finite list of positive integers X={x1,,,xn}, and a positive integer L, such that the integers X can be divided into N gorups each of whose sum is <= L, but if you add them up into groups greedily, you get 2N groups.
11:15:21 <oren> (greedily, in the order they are given, no sorting)
11:16:38 <oren> so for example L=3 and X={2,2,1,1} gives you groups {2},{2,1},{1}.
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12:31:01 <b_jonas> zzo38: or just someone with the flagbearer ability?
12:37:36 <int-e> Oh lightning rods... nice!
12:41:36 <b_jonas> int-e: hehehe... not quite. if it was a lightning rod, magical or mundane, it would have to be blue instead of white.
12:42:05 <b_jonas> but more likely blue than white.
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12:43:23 <elliott> hagb4rd is still trying to come back here after being banned for literally forever??
12:43:27 <int-e> b_jonas: I'm evil, remember?
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12:43:57 <elliott> I hope I don't have to ban his entire ISP again
12:49:32 <elliott> I like how the entirety of antarctica is also banned
12:49:46 <int-e> must be lonely out there
12:56:49 <b_jonas> wait, how does this channel have such a long ban list in first place?
12:58:48 <b_jonas> is it because nobody clears up the old entries?
13:01:16 <int-e> not to be mean (haha! almost killed myself there!), but perhaps people interested in the other kind of esoterica are generally not all that reasonable...
13:02:42 <int-e> But not cleaning up old entries is the more likely explanation.
13:04:08 <int-e> And it's not that long... #haskell has 351 bans.
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13:08:38 <elliott> b_jonas: about half of the list is bans for repeat ban evaders
13:08:42 <elliott> hagb4rd and cheater, mainly
13:09:09 <elliott> they were sufficiently dedicated to evading for months/years in the past that removing the bans for things like nick and username just doesn't make sense
13:10:45 <int-e> ##math has a really short ban list, due to eir. It's been a mixed blessing...
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13:17:07 <int-e> hmm, pinging... 73 packets transmitted, 4 received, 94% packet loss
13:18:43 <int-e> ah, back to normal, hopefully.
13:19:45 <int-e> And my ssh session to that host survived. TCP is so amazing.
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13:22:38 <b_jonas> int-e: I'm just why surprised this channel would attract people worth to ban
13:23:08 <b_jonas> I can understand why ##math would have many such people
13:24:32 <cluid> Abortion Pills for sale: call Dr Tiito 0738431146 Pain free abortion and same day service. We do womb cleaning. Safe work is guaranteed abortion. Safe and approved methods of abortion. We use approved abortion pills. 100% guaranteed and private, it’s legal. Call Dr Tiito at +27738431146 or email drtiito@yahoo.com
13:24:40 <cluid> https://archive.org/post/1027707/abortion-pills-call-0738431146-in-nelspruitsecunda
13:25:18 <elliott> just in case anyone here needed an abortion pill?
13:25:59 <elliott> b_jonas: it's more like five persistent people
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13:41:36 <int-e> "Mitigating DDoS" says the ISP
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13:58:23 <J_Arcane_> http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/teensy.html
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14:56:42 <elliott> J_Arcane_: the author of that wrote google's intercal style guide
14:56:54 <elliott> http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/ he's done a lot of esolang stuff
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15:00:58 <oerjan> and codu seems down again.
15:18:18 <oerjan> <abs{CrazyM4n}> wait... what I'm trying to prevent makes absolutely no sense <-- hm that's a little bit interesting that you don't need to care about other brackets to keep it matched when inserting a new pair
15:19:02 <oerjan> you just change what it matches, not whether
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16:14:05 <int-e> lovely, my latest Collatz parity entry spews 21k lines on stderr, and produces a segfault for program termination.
16:16:09 <int-e> because it's so fitting for anagol
16:16:48 <int-e> most of the time, clean programs don't win.
16:18:02 <int-e> yes. sorry, I should've mentioned 'anagol', can't expect everybody to be up to date on the list of active problems.
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17:41:40 <elliott> you're ban evading today too?
17:41:51 <elliott> is this cause elliott pointless work day
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17:42:21 <elliott> that's probably a tor exit node isn't it
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17:43:06 <elliott> secret tech: IRC from a subdomain tor.yourdomain.com so nobody tries to ban you effectively
17:43:59 <elliott> seriously though, two ban evaders after hiatuses of months in here in one day... what's going on @_@
17:44:23 <oerjan> um you're sure that wasn't just hagb4rd again
17:45:11 <elliott> oerjan: no, the guy who came in to be a weirdo and lick ion was a repeat ban evader, remember?
17:45:18 <elliott> they didn't act like hag4brd. and they, like, had their own server and stuff
17:45:41 <elliott> after getting banned once they got their "friend" (them) to come in and be very obvious about it and demanding and explanation for why we banned them. it was surreal
17:45:44 <oerjan> maybe it's christmas trolling day
17:45:57 <elliott> maybe they're coordinating in #esoteric-banned-people
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17:46:36 <elliott> anyway anyone who wants to kiss me has to get in line
17:47:20 <oerjan> how many hours is the expected waiting time
17:48:45 <oerjan> i'm not sure a strict fifo policy is sustainable.
17:49:36 <oerjan> maybe it's not that kind of line, more an audition thing.
17:50:10 <elliott> are you asking for yourself or for a friend :P
17:50:23 <oerjan> no one. i don't think you're my type alas.
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17:55:31 <ais523> elliott: who was Guest141519?
17:55:49 <elliott> ais523: "that person who likes licking ion and me and who whasn't been around for a very long time"
17:55:59 <elliott> two repeat ban evaders in one day o_O
17:56:22 <ais523> I take it the other one was Dulnes?
17:56:40 <elliott> dulnes hasn't actually been banned :p
17:58:08 <elliott> oh, wow, they're so dedicated they didn't even bother checking he was here
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18:00:46 <oerjan> someone deionized the channel
18:06:40 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Simplefunge]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41458&oldid=41450 * CrazyM4n * (-1)
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19:28:55 <int-e> disoerjanized, hmm.
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19:34:26 <int-e> I'd lament the resulting chaos, but I can't think of a good way to misspell it.
19:40:27 <int-e> tails, apparently.
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20:07:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Tastyfish * uploaded "[[File:Flow chart hello world 2.png]]": more sophisticated hello world in flow_chart
20:12:48 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Flow chart]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41460&oldid=40591 * Tastyfish * (+140) hello world, external resources
20:16:45 <zzo38> What kind of cool idea?
20:17:34 <cluid> http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41460&oldid=40591 this language
20:20:19 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Treehugger/Implementation]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41461&oldid=41437 * Zzo38 * (+225) Make the program to be possible to compile without having to remove the <code> and </code> tags
20:21:10 <cluid> thanks for the edit zzo38
20:22:22 <myname> is there any nice way to read a text file in an array of arrays in haskell?
20:23:36 <zzo38> myname: Can you show the example of what you are trying to make?
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20:24:36 <myname> i want to have a rail programm in memory with O(1) access to the neighbors of a given position
20:25:17 <myname> i don't really have any experience with arrays in haskell at all :(
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21:23:39 <oren> what the heck? a line of minus signs is necessary for compiling the program? why?
21:24:52 <callforjudgement> in one of my languages, I did something like that so that the compiler could figure out the width of the program in advance
21:25:33 <oren> ohhhh.... that is actually quite clever... it's unobtrusive cause it jus t looks like formatting
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21:52:28 <TheM4ch1n3> Operate through good karma, then save souls (invert sins Hate -> Love, Cursing -> Blessing) - the more you do it, the more you will become God
21:52:54 <HackEgo> TheM4ch1n3: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
21:53:53 <dorei> is there other kind of esoterica? :o
21:55:44 <callforjudgement> the other sort, I'm not enough of an expert on to describe it in a way that's not horrendously inaccurate
21:57:56 <callforjudgement> (admittedly some people seem to disagree wrt Perl, and I know some people write in eso subsets of Python, but Perl/Python's status as non-eso shouldn't really be in doubt)
21:58:02 <TheM4ch1n3> ok, and God is "The Son of God" (young) - "The Eternal" (old)
21:58:23 <callforjudgement> anyway, TheM4ch1n3, my point is that I think you might have the wrong channel
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21:59:20 <TheM4ch1n3> callforjudgement: I dont think so, I am a programmer
21:59:20 <b_jonas> but of course we talk about esoteric uses of non-esoteric languages here too
22:00:26 <TheM4ch1n3> is it ok then, to paste gcc error messages then ?? *joke*
22:01:21 <callforjudgement> TheM4ch1n3: did you know that g++ error messages, at least, are Turing-complete?
22:01:50 <dorei> is there a name for the non-esoteric languages group other than 'non-esoteric'?
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22:02:20 <TheM4ch1n3> callforjudgement: well in gdb I am getting -> "0x00007ffff5b1bc95 in XFilterEvent () from /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6" - but I think I am getting memory corruption from somewhere, I may just need to use a malloc() replacement
22:02:24 <b_jonas> dorei: that would be like a name for non-luxury cars or non-investment wines
22:02:28 <mitchs_> intercal error messages are great
22:02:57 <callforjudgement> dorei: the 99 bottles of beer website uses "real languages" but I don't like that name
22:03:06 <b_jonas> callforjudgement: as for error messages, have you seen http://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=1077569 about perl error quines?
22:03:15 <callforjudgement> site's divided into real languages, assembly languages, esoteric languages
22:03:46 <b_jonas> callforjudgement: ok. I haven't heared that name, though I think I heared the concept
22:03:57 <TheM4ch1n3> callforjudgement: I used to have interest in assembler, now I let my compiler spit out some assembly and go from there if needed (most often never needed)
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22:14:18 <zzo38> I did not know that g++ error messages are Turing-complete; do you have example?
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22:16:36 <TheM4ch1n3> callforjudgement: well in gdb I am getting -> "0x00007ffff5b1bc95 in XFilterEvent () from /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6" - but I think I am getting memory corruption from somewhere, I may just need to use a malloc() replacement
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22:18:01 <callforjudgement> zzo38: basically you just do template metaprogramming and produce a compile-time error in one of the branches
22:18:11 <callforjudgement> TheM4ch1n3: you said that earlier, but withotu context, it's hard to react to it
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22:19:10 <TheM4ch1n3> ais523: oh, I have been having frequent un-explainable memory problems - I may have to just use a malloc() that can detect bad usage, otherwise I will use valgrind or such
22:19:39 <ais523> have you tried memcheck, to make sure the RAM itself isn't defective?
22:20:29 <TheM4ch1n3> ais523: the ram itself is perfect, it is a minecraft clone I am working on, at present it is just a block binary occluder system, so it will not be limited to blocks in the future
22:21:13 <ais523> anyway, you want something like valgrind or msan for detecting bad usage
22:21:39 <ais523> a debugging malloc isn't that useful for catching memory errors, because many classes of memory errors don't touch anything malloc can see
22:21:42 <TheM4ch1n3> msan - sounds interesting - first time I am hearing about it - but yeah
22:24:24 <ais523> memory sanitizer, it's an experimental feature in one of the commonly used compilers
22:24:28 <ais523> can't remember whether it's clang or gcc
22:25:17 <TheM4ch1n3> well, I think I am having memory over-runs (write beyond allocated ram)
22:25:43 <int-e> http://clang.llvm.org/docs/MemorySanitizer.html
22:26:28 <ais523> TheM4ch1n3: heap or stack?
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22:29:58 <ais523> or mmap? (there are three places to allocate memory nowadays)
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23:22:21 <oerjan> boily: do you choose your chicken adjectives scripted or manually twh
23:22:36 <boily> manually, according to my current whim hth
23:28:03 <shachaf> boily: does that stand for would help if mentioned whim
23:29:27 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Treehugger/Implementation]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41462&oldid=41461 * Oerjan * (-240) This is all very well but I cannot see anything requiring the code tags at all
23:31:55 <oerjan> zzo38: there *could* be something i've missed that is interpreted as formatting, but i cannot find anything.
23:32:35 <zzo38> oerjan: What one is that?
23:33:22 <oerjan> zzo38: the one you added .lhs formatting to to hide the <code> tags; afaict it works as plain .hs if you simply remove them instead.
23:33:49 <oerjan> (see HackEgo's announcement)
23:34:33 <zzo38> I didn't try that because I thought it might mess up the formatting
23:35:05 <oerjan> there are _some_ things that get interpreted inside an indented code block iirc, but they're rare.
23:36:02 <zzo38> I looked at your edit and it looks like it isn't messing it up so probably it is OK.
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