00:00:08 oren: one thing I don't quite get is that sometimes it's かいしゃ, and other times it's がいしゃ. I highly suspect it's for euphonic reasons... 00:01:22 boily: rendaku / sequential voicing? 00:01:39 boily: Yep, just standard Japanese euphony. 00:01:51 Melvar: well, both forms are accepted and in wide usage. that's what's baffling me. 00:02:01 pikhq: oh well. 00:02:13 "kabushikigaisha" is more "correct". 00:02:25 boily: Things can get voiced if they’re a non-first element of a compound, is what that is. 00:02:27 -!- zzo38 has joined. 00:02:36 連濁は難しいんだよ。。。 00:03:12 yah, essentially, kabushikigaisha is "public-company" while kabushikikaisha is "public company" 00:04:31 it depends on how closely you want it to sound compounded. 00:05:12 because 式 "style" is sort of an adjectival ending 00:06:08 I had idea of what kind of character could be had in the Smash Brothers game, if it were allowed to use function of Wii U gamepad for some characters. Professor Oak would be allowed to look on the touchscreen to know what kind of pokemons are in each pokeball on the screen, without opening it. Light Yagami can have one attack, you write the name of another character on the touchscreen and forty seconds later the target is instantly knocked out; it 00:06:15 oren: interesting. I never thought of 式 that way. 00:07:04 zzo38: I couldn't be playing the Yagami; my handwriting is too idiosyncratic. 00:07:30 oren: btw, I don't know your approximate geographic coördinates yet, and what is your body weigh? 00:07:57 boily: get this: you may notice many adjectives in japanese end in 的. in Mandarin, 的 is simply the genitive particle! 00:08:23 I live in Canada and i weigh 160 pounds. 00:08:34 oh, which province? :D 00:08:43 Toronto Ontario 00:08:48 的 is the ubiquitous 的. 00:09:06 oren: ah, un ontarien! 00:09:21 wee wee! 00:10:01 O, I forgot actually it can be canceled if you are knocked out while writing down the name, but after it is written, the attack cannot be canceled unless the match has already ended or if the target has been knocked out and not recovered yet by the time 40 seconds have elapsed. 00:10:04 not the ontarites 00:10:32 That would then be the most powerful, and also the slowest, attack in the game. 00:10:56 i always play as Ike and bash people up 00:11:09 kirby is the most bestest of them all! 00:12:51 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 00:13:22 No, I wanted to play as Professor Oak. 00:13:46 -!- Frooxius has joined. 00:14:09 -!- FreeFull has joined. 00:16:18 i love this font. i love the way | is a heart. 00:16:46 i | this font. i | the way | is a |. 00:16:54 What kind of font is that? 00:17:44 http://snag.gy/bYC1F.jpg 00:19:00 this is my font from now on. i don't care if people say it's silly. 00:19:35 * boily cursivly twitches 00:20:48 http://snag.gy/Z5AC1.jpg 00:22:24 -!- oren has changed nick to |oren|. 00:23:47 <|oren|> with the power of heart! http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=164 00:24:05 -!- CrazyM4n has changed nick to abs. 00:24:19 okay... 00:24:27 -!- abs has changed nick to CrazyM4n. 00:24:43 ;~; I was trying to set my name as abs(CrazyM4n) because |oren| 00:24:46 but I guess not 00:25:11 <|oren|> you can have {}|[]\ in name because of iso646 00:25:28 <|oren|> they were letters in scandinavian fonts 00:25:36 weird 00:25:57 <|oren|> but you can't have () in name 00:29:21 neither *. I wanted a sparkling nick, dammit! 00:29:31 boily 00:30:25 thachaf ^^ 00:30:34 -!- shikhin has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 00:45:36 abs{CrazyM4n} 00:45:42 Good enough 00:46:21 anyone here using termite? 00:48:00 <|oren|> not me... i was unaware what that was 00:48:58 myname: as in, the thing that explodes? 00:49:11 as in, the terminal emulator 00:50:34 same; I didn't know there were such a thing as. 00:50:39 -!- CrazyM4n has changed nick to abs{CrazyM4n}. 00:52:17 oerjan: oh this is instructive: u=unlines;main=interact(\x->u[u[z|y<-[n,n+2..7^6],z<-lines x,show y==z]|n<-[0,1]]) can be shortened to main=interact(unlines#);u#x=u[u[z|y<-[n,n+2..7^6],z<-lines x,show y==z]|n<-[0,1]] 00:52:31 oerjan: (from http://golf.shinh.org/p.rb?partition+by+parity) 00:53:54 Someone on reddit told me my code was slow and linked to their code golf which apparently ran faster 00:54:19 Too bad I never knew how 00:56:01 int-e: fiendish 00:57:06 <|oren|> does casting unused return vals to void no longer work? 00:57:48 <|oren|> i really don't care how much fread read! 01:05:53 http://www.example.com/#%foo 01:06:00 Went into Chrome console 01:06:05 document.URL ... breaks the console 01:06:14 alert(document.URL) is fine 01:09:09 -!- G33kDude has joined. 01:11:14 -!- GeekDude has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 01:11:16 -!- G33kDude has changed nick to GeekDude. 01:21:02 GG still late 01:21:13 time for gglist 01:21:17 as is freefall 01:21:26 shachaf: i think that's a bit premature 01:21:39 oerjan: unlike gg updates hth 01:22:48 OKAY 01:26:38 the *lists should be parametrised over the comic they notify people of. 01:27:26 innovative 01:31:03 probably plug some machine learning through that, so that when you present `list with a new comic, it'll know which one it is, and who to notify. 01:31:20 fungot: can you predict comic schedules? 01:31:21 boily: i believe that the human body does not catch fire.) so you'll return the procedure 01:31:37 -!- adu has joined. 01:31:47 fungot: indeed. it was experimentially demonstrated that I do not catch fire. I wonder if you burn... 01:31:48 boily: this problem is giving me some error in my algorithm and it was almost working, modulo a certain amount of reductions, you can 01:32:10 fungot: so you're not quite ready for that kind of predictions? 01:32:11 boily: i think that specifing relative heading sizes is not only fnord. 01:32:33 fungot: ah, absence of fnord in the schedule headers. a classic mistake. 01:32:33 boily: let me update sarah to the latest 01:32:51 fungot: so you're learning about to notifiees! 01:32:56 (btw, who's sarah?) 01:33:28 `? boily 01:33:29 boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department. 01:35:27 `? shachaf 01:35:28 shachaf sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. 01:36:13 `? `? 01:36:14 ​`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 01:36:14 | 01:36:15 º¯`\o 01:36:37 `? esolang 01:36:38 esolang? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:36:46 `? zzo38 01:36:48 zzo38 is not actually the next version of fungot, much as it may seem. 01:37:40 `? topic 01:37:41 topic? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:37:50 `? IRC 01:37:50 irc is useless. 01:37:56 `? Are you sure? 01:37:57 Are you sure?? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:38:11 `? International Astronomical Conspiracy 01:38:12 International Astronomical Conspiracy? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:38:21 `? C 01:38:21 C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault 01:38:25 `? C++ 01:38:26 Along with C, C++ is a language for smart people. 01:38:30 `? Haskell 01:38:31 Unbound implicit parameter (?haskell::Wisdom) \ arising from a use of implicit parameter `?haskell' 01:38:45 `? Forth 01:38:46 Forth? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:38:54 `? Befunge 01:38:55 Befunge? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:38:58 `? CLC-INTERCAL 01:38:59 CLC-INTERCAL? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:39:04 `? LISP 01:39:05 LISP? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:40:07 `? assembly language 01:40:08 assembly language? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:40:33 `? Segmentation fault 01:40:33 Segmentation fault? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:40:41 HackEgo: wow 01:41:23 C++ is not the language for smart people 01:42:13 smart people learn from history 01:42:37 smart people define their problem domain before discussing it 01:42:50 I know that, but that is what someone wrote on HackEgo 01:43:09 `? Magic: the Gathering 01:43:09 Magic: the Gathering? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:43:13 `? Pokemon Card 01:43:14 Pokemon Card? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:43:17 `? x86 01:43:18 x86? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:43:19 `? Aberration Hater Card Game 01:43:20 Aberration Hater Card Game? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:43:23 `? 6502 01:43:24 6502? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:43:36 what's the ascii art mean? does that mean 404? 01:43:51 `? brainfuck 01:43:52 brainfuck is the integral of the family of terrible esolangs. 01:44:09 `? x86_64 01:44:09 x86_64? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:44:09 adu: Either the file doesn't exist or the text of the file contains that ASCII art 01:44:18 `? fnord 01:44:19 ​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:44:32 `? stack 01:44:32 stack? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:44:43 `? increment 01:44:44 increment? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:44:47 `? smart 01:44:48 smart? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:45:35 so it doesn't search? 01:45:52 that's not very fun 01:46:40 adu: it's the Wisdom. for a formatted version of it, check the PDF in the /topic ↑ 01:46:44 If you want to search, you can enter the search command by yourself, it is a UNIX program so you can use any UNIX command 01:47:18 you're either wisdom or you're againsdom 01:47:39 `? Coulor 01:47:39 Coulor is the correct spelling. 01:47:43 lololol 01:48:21 -!- |oren| has quit (Quit: buhbye). 01:48:25 `? colour 01:48:26 ​Colour is a phenomenon from outer space designed to drive humanity insane and bring forth the new age of Cthulhu. 01:48:32 `? facts 01:48:33 -!- glguy has quit (Quit: Quit). 01:48:33 facts are lies. They are not there. Go away! 01:49:44 I try to stay away from Pastafarianism 01:50:41 next thing you're going to say that you don't believe in ramen. 01:50:54 OMG I <3 Ramen 01:54:21 ラーメンが大すきい 01:56:24 I prefer the original Chinese version. 01:56:39 (hmm... braised beef shank...) 01:57:15 我爱拉面 01:58:36 我同意 01:58:46 -!- jslave has joined. 01:59:09 time to gravitate towards a mattress... 01:59:21 みんなお休み! 01:59:30 -!- boily has quit (Quit: PLURALIST CHICKEN). 02:01:35 * oerjan wonders if boily has a script for choosing fowl adjectives 02:02:00 `? 02:02:01 ​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 02:02:14 `? `? 02:02:15 ​`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 02:02:15 | 02:02:16 º¯`\o 02:03:55 `run sed -i 's/°/°​/' wisdom/'`?' 02:03:57 No output. 02:04:01 `? `? 02:04:02 ​`? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 02:12:51 -!- drdanmaku has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 02:19:39 -!- Lymia has joined. 03:01:15 -!- axelcsep has joined. 03:02:58 `? wisdom 03:02:59 wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø? 03:03:45 Do you like my stuff on All The Tropes so far? 03:03:49 `? All The Tropes 03:03:49 All The Tropes? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 03:03:55 `? Iuckqlwviv Kjugobe 03:03:56 Iuckqlwviv Kjugobe? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 03:04:12 `? XML 03:04:13 XML? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 03:04:20 `? gopher 03:04:20 gopher? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 03:04:23 `? HTTP 03:04:23 HTTP? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 03:04:32 `? COBOL 03:04:33 COBOL? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 03:05:20 -!- CADD has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:22:51 -!- jslave has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 03:23:06 CLIPPY 03:23:11 http://inception.davepedu.com/ 03:26:41 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 03:26:48 -!- drdanmaku has joined. 03:34:32 -!- jslave has joined. 03:43:21 -!- glguy has joined. 03:46:30 I'm so done with bueue, I've been messing with it for like 10 min 03:46:40 and all I've gotten is smiley faces and ones 03:47:24 hey abs{CrazyM4n} 03:47:38 how's the IDE coming? 03:47:50 It's usable 03:47:52 Glitchy 03:47:56 But usable 03:48:01 lol 03:50:01 I've got to implement a line drawing function in lua 03:50:38 Like, to output to images? Or in Löve or another similar thingy 03:51:28 I am running lua on an embedded device 03:51:41 I have graphics functions for three things 03:51:46 1) Clearing the display 03:51:52 2) Outputting text 03:52:00 3) Setting a single pixel on 03:52:13 -!- jslave has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 03:52:28 Ooo. Why lua though? Just because it's easy to implement? 03:52:59 Well, my choices for alternate firmwares were C variants, Java, or lua 03:53:18 a few of the C variants require $$$ licenses as well 03:53:26 Ew 03:53:31 What are you running it on? 03:53:38 Also, the lua firmware just had an update for better float processing speed 03:53:52 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego_Mindstorms_NXT 03:53:58 Ah 03:54:02 You 03:54:06 You've talked about it 03:54:25 I talk about these things a lot 03:57:26 So I have a good idea - 03:57:45 I'm writing a program that randomly generates BF programs 03:58:19 The ultimate bogo sort? 03:58:27 keep writing BF until the list is sorted 03:58:45 It's perfect 03:59:35 Just don't know how I'm going to generate the brackets 03:59:45 in pairs of course 04:00:01 Yeah, but the problem is making sure no pairs overlap 04:00:23 Well, you're allowed to nest them, right? 04:00:29 Yes 04:00:37 [...[.]...] 04:00:45 Oh, I can just make it place a corresponding ] in any place before the next [ 04:00:46 that's not two overlapping pairs 04:00:50 That works 04:00:53 that's a nested pair 04:01:07 I mean, I'm trying to prevent [....[]...] 04:01:15 wait... what I'm trying to prevent makes absolutely no sense 04:01:59 Tada! 04:02:16 logicd 04:03:08 -!- jslave has joined. 04:04:40 Welp, goodnight 04:04:47 Good night 04:05:26 -!- GeekDude has quit (Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com)). 04:28:59 -!- nys has quit (Quit: quit). 04:47:28 So the random BF generator is quite weird 04:47:32 And fun 04:47:33 And useless 04:51:09 So I just generated this http://sprunge.us/MQeb 04:51:26 It seems to put an amount of garbage characters on the line 04:51:32 Depending on the amount you inputted 04:54:36 -!- Decensum|Zzz has joined. 04:57:08 ... 04:57:08 abs{CrazyM4n}: [SyntaxError] Unexpected token . 04:57:32 -!- axelcsep has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 04:57:36 Oh, you have to use a REALLY forgiving BF interpreter 04:57:39 I'm using beef 04:57:53 I just generated a 13,000 character script 04:57:58 That outputted " 04:57:58 " 04:58:00 That's it 04:58:00 Morning 05:02:07 "", BF says 05:02:50 Huh what //wakes up 05:09:21 So I just generated two programs back to back 05:09:26 That both printed out the ASCII table 05:09:36 One backwards, skipping a couple characters 05:09:45 Another forward, skipping different characters 05:09:46 O.o 05:11:04 I should go to bed 05:13:54 ? u 05:13:58 `? u 05:14:00 u monad? 05:14:05 `? you 05:14:06 you a haskell 05:15:12 `? Ø 05:15:13 ​ø is not going anywhere. 05:15:53 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 05:20:34 -!- abs{CrazyM4n} has quit (Quit: need internet, have dialup). 05:21:15 -!- jslave has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 05:22:25 -!- adu has joined. 05:26:34 -!- glguy_ has joined. 05:26:53 -!- glguy_ has quit (Client Quit). 05:29:30 Fondle bread 05:42:29 -!- fungot has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 05:43:39 -!- fizzie has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 05:48:36 -!- Tod-Autojoined has changed nick to TodPunk. 05:59:30 -!- Patashu has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 07:00:47 `evilliouslist 07:00:48 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: evilliouslist: not found 07:00:52 Wait, hmm. Not sure if it counts 07:00:53 "12/12: New album entitled "The Seven Sins and Punishment" announced by Akuno-P! " 07:00:59 Not yet released I guess 07:01:18 To be released Feb. 25 07:02:10 * Sgeo counts between 2-4 new songs 07:02:29 (Two songs I haven't seen before and wiki has no info, two songs with names to be released) 07:13:27 -!- glguy has quit (Quit: Part). 07:16:55 -!- shikhin has joined. 07:43:07 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 08:11:35 -!- PinealGland has joined. 08:21:05 -!- Decensum|Zzz has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 08:43:27 -!- shikhin has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 08:54:33 -!- shikhin has joined. 09:10:42 -!- shikhin has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 09:52:51 Now I made up a more powerful version of POKEMON FLUTE card; it is called POKEMON ORCHESTRA. You have to discard another cards from your hand, but it is possible now to use not only with basic pokemon cards but also evolution cards and basic energy cards. 09:53:25 zzo38: what's a pokemon flute? is it like an elvish piper? 09:54:09 It is card that let's you play one basic pokemon card from opponent's trash onto the opponent's play area (although the card remains inactive). 09:57:09 -!- oren has joined. 09:57:42 ah, so not Elvish Piper, but rather Rise from the Grave but only from an opponent's graveyard 09:57:50 ok 10:00:53 Actually not quite like either of those M:tG cards. The card remains on opponent's side and isn't altered. 10:05:44 I don't know if there are any cards in Magic: the Gathering that are similar to the Pokemon Flute though. 10:08:49 oh, you give your _opponent_ back a valuable card 10:08:56 yes, that's different 10:21:37 I had the most horrible dream last night. I dreamed that someone solved the let-alist macro I've been failing to solve for over a week, only I couldn't access the email. I woke at 6am grouchy and frustrated. 10:22:51 -!- drdanmaku has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 10:40:33 `which alist 10:40:34 No output. 11:11:54 Is there a Magic: the Puzzling where opponent has Gleemax on his side? 11:14:47 problem: find a finite list of positive integers X={x1,,,xn}, and a positive integer L, such that the integers X can be divided into N gorups each of whose sum is <= L, but if you add them up into groups greedily, you get 2N groups. 11:15:21 (greedily, in the order they are given, no sorting) 11:16:38 so for example L=3 and X={2,2,1,1} gives you groups {2},{2,1},{1}. 11:36:27 -!- copumpkin has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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It's been a mixed blessing... 13:13:55 -!- lambdabot has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:14:04 oh?! 13:15:48 -!- FreeFull has quit (Quit: I'll be back later). 13:17:07 hmm, pinging... 73 packets transmitted, 4 received, 94% packet loss 13:18:43 ah, back to normal, hopefully. 13:19:45 And my ssh session to that host survived. TCP is so amazing. 13:22:16 -!- lambdabot has joined. 13:22:38 int-e: I'm just why surprised this channel would attract people worth to ban 13:23:08 I can understand why ##math would have many such people 13:24:32 Abortion Pills for sale: call Dr Tiito 0738431146 Pain free abortion and same day service. We do womb cleaning. Safe work is guaranteed abortion. Safe and approved methods of abortion. We use approved abortion pills. 100% guaranteed and private, it’s legal. Call Dr Tiito at +27738431146 or email drtiito@yahoo.com 13:24:40 https://archive.org/post/1027707/abortion-pills-call-0738431146-in-nelspruitsecunda 13:25:18 just in case anyone here needed an abortion pill? 13:25:59 b_jonas: it's more like five persistent people 13:31:58 -!- lambdabot has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:35:47 -!- lambdabot has joined. 13:36:40 -!- atslash has joined. 13:37:59 -!- lambdabot has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:41:36 "Mitigating DDoS" says the ISP 13:42:18 -!- lambdabot has joined. 13:58:23 http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/teensy.html 14:09:40 -!- GeekDude has joined. 14:17:55 -!- GeekDude has quit (Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com)). 14:56:42 J_Arcane_: the author of that wrote google's intercal style guide 14:56:51 :D 14:56:54 http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/ he's done a lot of esolang stuff 14:57:47 -!- ZombieAlive has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:59:28 -!- oerjan has joined. 15:00:58 and codu seems down again. 15:01:05 `echo hi 15:01:05 hi 15:01:18 the logs, anyway 15:18:18 wait... what I'm trying to prevent makes absolutely no sense <-- hm that's a little bit interesting that you don't need to care about other brackets to keep it matched when inserting a new pair 15:19:02 you just change what it matches, not whether 15:23:02 -!- MoALTz has quit (Quit: Leaving). 15:44:19 -!- drdanmaku has joined. 15:52:07 -!- fizzie has joined. 16:05:28 hi 16:05:36 hi 16:05:50 -!- nys has joined. 16:14:05 lovely, my latest Collatz parity entry spews 21k lines on stderr, and produces a segfault for program termination. 16:15:34 why is that lovely? 16:16:09 because it's so fitting for anagol 16:16:48 most of the time, clean programs don't win. 16:16:54 ah 16:16:58 it's a golf program 16:18:02 yes. sorry, I should've mentioned 'anagol', can't expect everybody to be up to date on the list of active problems. 16:26:13 -!- GeekDude has joined. 16:41:33 -!- ais523 has joined. 17:22:49 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 17:23:58 -!- MoALTz has joined. 17:29:46 -!- atslash has quit (Quit: Leaving). 17:41:01 -!- Guest141519 has joined. 17:41:22 ion: ? : elliott .. 17:41:33 * Guest141519 blows a kiss at elliott 17:41:37 what the fuck 17:41:40 you're ban evading today too? 17:41:48 merry christmas elliott ilu 17:41:51 is this cause elliott pointless work day 17:41:52 :* 17:41:54 -!- fizzie has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 17:41:54 -!- ChanServ has set channel mode: +o elliott. 17:42:09 -!- elliott has set channel mode: +b *!*@tor.subspace.systems. 17:42:13 -!- elliott has kicked Guest141519 weirdo. 17:42:21 that's probably a tor exit node isn't it 17:42:40 whatever 17:42:43 you'd think 17:42:46 -!- elliott has set channel mode: -b *!*@tor.subspace.systems. 17:43:06 secret tech: IRC from a subdomain tor.yourdomain.com so nobody tries to ban you effectively 17:43:59 seriously though, two ban evaders after hiatuses of months in here in one day... what's going on @_@ 17:44:23 um you're sure that wasn't just hagb4rd again 17:45:11 oerjan: no, the guy who came in to be a weirdo and lick ion was a repeat ban evader, remember? 17:45:18 they didn't act like hag4brd. and they, like, had their own server and stuff 17:45:21 ok 17:45:41 after getting banned once they got their "friend" (them) to come in and be very obvious about it and demanding and explanation for why we banned them. it was surreal 17:45:44 maybe it's christmas trolling day 17:45:57 maybe they're coordinating in #esoteric-banned-people 17:46:18 -!- elliott has set channel mode: -o elliott. 17:46:36 anyway anyone who wants to kiss me has to get in line 17:47:20 how many hours is the expected waiting time 17:48:39 depends who's asking. 17:48:45 i'm not sure a strict fifo policy is sustainable. 17:49:36 maybe it's not that kind of line, more an audition thing. 17:49:43 like, catwalk. 17:50:10 are you asking for yourself or for a friend :P 17:50:23 no one. i don't think you're my type alas. 17:50:34 I'm devastated 17:52:04 a terrible tragedy 17:53:17 -!- ski has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:55:31 elliott: who was Guest141519? 17:55:49 ais523: "that person who likes licking ion and me and who whasn't been around for a very long time" 17:55:59 two repeat ban evaders in one day o_O 17:56:22 I take it the other one was Dulnes? 17:56:36 no, hagb4rd 17:56:40 dulnes hasn't actually been banned :p 17:57:10 right 17:57:44 btw, where's ion? 17:58:08 oh, wow, they're so dedicated they didn't even bother checking he was here 17:59:47 -!- CrazyM4n has joined. 18:00:46 someone deionized the channel 18:06:40 [wiki] [[Simplefunge]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41458&oldid=41450 * CrazyM4n * (-1) 18:10:55 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: deoerjanizing channel). 18:17:11 -!- fizzie has joined. 18:24:40 -!- Decensum|Zzz has joined. 18:37:09 -!- ski has joined. 18:38:50 -!- FreeFull has joined. 18:57:30 -!- glguy_ has joined. 19:22:39 -!- CrazyM4n has quit (Quit: Leaving). 19:28:55 disoerjanized, hmm. 19:33:30 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 19:34:26 I'd lament the resulting chaos, but I can't think of a good way to misspell it. 19:37:13 hello 19:37:47 greetings 19:37:51 salutations. 19:39:00 incongruencies 19:40:02 whats up 19:40:21 * int-e flips a coin. 19:40:27 tails, apparently. 19:50:15 -!- boily has quit (Quit: EVASIVE CHICKEN). 20:05:45 -!- CrazyM4n has joined. 20:07:41 [wiki] [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Tastyfish * uploaded "[[File:Flow chart hello world 2.png]]": more sophisticated hello world in flow_chart 20:12:48 [wiki] [[Flow chart]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41460&oldid=40591 * Tastyfish * (+140) hello world, external resources 20:15:03 cool idea 20:16:45 What kind of cool idea? 20:17:34 http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41460&oldid=40591 this language 20:20:19 [wiki] [[Treehugger/Implementation]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41461&oldid=41437 * Zzo38 * (+225) Make the program to be possible to compile without having to remove the and tags 20:21:10 thanks for the edit zzo38 20:22:22 is there any nice way to read a text file in an array of arrays in haskell? 20:23:36 myname: Can you show the example of what you are trying to make? 20:23:58 -!- cluid has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:24:36 i want to have a rail programm in memory with O(1) access to the neighbors of a given position 20:25:17 i don't really have any experience with arrays in haskell at all :( 20:41:05 -!- Decensum|Zzz has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 20:45:28 -!- GeekDude has quit (Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com)). 21:09:08 -!- boily has joined. 21:10:08 -!- ais523 has quit. 21:10:15 -!- callforjudgement has joined. 21:23:39 what the heck? a line of minus signs is necessary for compiling the program? why? 21:24:52 in one of my languages, I did something like that so that the compiler could figure out the width of the program in advance 21:25:33 ohhhh.... that is actually quite clever... it's unobtrusive cause it jus t looks like formatting 21:34:14 -!- PinealGland has quit (Quit: leaving). 21:34:32 -!- Patashu has joined. 21:37:10 -!- yonkie has joined. 21:37:27 -!- yonkie has quit (Client Quit). 21:38:03 -!- yonkie has joined. 21:39:00 -!- yonkie has quit (Client Quit). 21:39:21 -!- yonkie has joined. 21:45:57 -!- dorei has joined. 21:50:21 -!- yonkie has quit (Quit: leaving). 21:50:25 -!- roasted42 has joined. 21:50:39 -!- roasted42 has quit (Changing host). 21:50:39 -!- roasted42 has joined. 21:50:39 -!- roasted42 has changed nick to TheM4ch1n3. 21:50:43 -!- yonkie has joined. 21:52:28 Operate through good karma, then save souls (invert sins Hate -> Love, Cursing -> Blessing) - the more you do it, the more you will become God 21:52:53 `welcome TheM4ch1n3 21:52:54 TheM4ch1n3: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 21:53:08 callforjudgement: hi :-) 21:53:53 is there other kind of esoterica? :o 21:55:19 yes, this channel's about programming languages 21:55:44 the other sort, I'm not enough of an expert on to describe it in a way that's not horrendously inaccurate 21:56:08 the other sort, do you mean perl ? 21:56:19 or python ? 21:57:07 no, the other sort of esoterica 21:57:19 perl/python are non-esoteric programming languages 21:57:56 (admittedly some people seem to disagree wrt Perl, and I know some people write in eso subsets of Python, but Perl/Python's status as non-eso shouldn't really be in doubt) 21:58:02 ok, and God is "The Son of God" (young) - "The Eternal" (old) 21:58:22 yeah, python's at least 21:58:23 anyway, TheM4ch1n3, my point is that I think you might have the wrong channel 21:58:54 -!- MoALTz_ has joined. 21:59:20 callforjudgement: I dont think so, I am a programmer 21:59:20 but of course we talk about esoteric uses of non-esoteric languages here too 21:59:41 or at least I try to 22:00:26 is it ok then, to paste gcc error messages then ?? *joke* 22:01:21 TheM4ch1n3: did you know that g++ error messages, at least, are Turing-complete? 22:01:24 not sure about gcc for C 22:01:50 is there a name for the non-esoteric languages group other than 'non-esoteric'? 22:02:03 -!- MoALTz has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 22:02:20 callforjudgement: well in gdb I am getting -> "0x00007ffff5b1bc95 in XFilterEvent () from /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6" - but I think I am getting memory corruption from somewhere, I may just need to use a malloc() replacement 22:02:24 dorei: that would be like a name for non-luxury cars or non-investment wines 22:02:28 intercal error messages are great 22:02:33 mitchs_: thanks, I wrote some of them 22:02:57 dorei: the 99 bottles of beer website uses "real languages" but I don't like that name 22:03:02 strangely enough, it counts asms as non-real 22:03:06 callforjudgement: as for error messages, have you seen http://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=1077569 about perl error quines? 22:03:15 site's divided into real languages, assembly languages, esoteric languages 22:03:22 b_jonas: the general term is "Kimian quines", I think 22:03:46 callforjudgement: ok. I haven't heared that name, though I think I heared the concept 22:03:57 callforjudgement: I used to have interest in assembler, now I let my compiler spit out some assembly and go from there if needed (most often never needed) 22:08:20 -!- TheM4ch1n3 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 22:08:47 o 22:08:52 -!- callforjudgement has changed nick to ais523. 22:09:58 -!- roasted42 has joined. 22:10:06 -!- oren has quit (Quit: leaving). 22:12:11 -!- callforjudgement has joined. 22:13:02 -!- roasted42 has quit (Changing host). 22:13:03 -!- roasted42 has joined. 22:13:03 -!- roasted42 has changed nick to TheM4ch1n3. 22:14:18 I did not know that g++ error messages are Turing-complete; do you have example? 22:15:14 -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 22:15:19 -!- callforjudgement has changed nick to ais523. 22:16:19 -!- GeekDude has joined. 22:16:36 callforjudgement: well in gdb I am getting -> "0x00007ffff5b1bc95 in XFilterEvent () from /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6" - but I think I am getting memory corruption from somewhere, I may just need to use a malloc() replacement 22:17:39 -!- ais523 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 22:17:45 -!- callforjudgement has joined. 22:18:01 zzo38: basically you just do template metaprogramming and produce a compile-time error in one of the branches 22:18:11 TheM4ch1n3: you said that earlier, but withotu context, it's hard to react to it 22:18:14 -!- callforjudgement has changed nick to ais523. 22:19:10 ais523: oh, I have been having frequent un-explainable memory problems - I may have to just use a malloc() that can detect bad usage, otherwise I will use valgrind or such 22:19:39 have you tried memcheck, to make sure the RAM itself isn't defective? 22:20:29 ais523: the ram itself is perfect, it is a minecraft clone I am working on, at present it is just a block binary occluder system, so it will not be limited to blocks in the future 22:21:13 anyway, you want something like valgrind or msan for detecting bad usage 22:21:39 a debugging malloc isn't that useful for catching memory errors, because many classes of memory errors don't touch anything malloc can see 22:21:42 msan - sounds interesting - first time I am hearing about it - but yeah 22:24:05 ais523: what is msan ? 22:24:24 memory sanitizer, it's an experimental feature in one of the commonly used compilers 22:24:28 can't remember whether it's clang or gcc 22:25:17 well, I think I am having memory over-runs (write beyond allocated ram) 22:25:43 http://clang.llvm.org/docs/MemorySanitizer.html 22:26:28 TheM4ch1n3: heap or stack? 22:29:52 -!- TheM4ch1n3 has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 22:29:58 or mmap? (there are three places to allocate memory nowadays) 22:31:31 -!- roasted42 has joined. 22:37:32 -!- roasted42 has left ("lag makes my client reconnect too much"). 22:59:27 -!- callforjudgement has joined. 22:59:44 -!- MoALTz_ has quit (Quit: Leaving). 23:03:27 -!- callforjudgement has quit (Client Quit). 23:03:40 -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 23:04:57 -!- Patashu has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:05:39 -!- Patashu has joined. 23:19:14 -!- glguy_ has quit (Quit: Quit). 23:20:36 -!- oerjan has joined. 23:22:21 boily: do you choose your chicken adjectives scripted or manually twh 23:22:36 manually, according to my current whim hth 23:22:48 ooh 23:28:03 boily: does that stand for would help if mentioned whim 23:29:27 [wiki] [[Treehugger/Implementation]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41462&oldid=41461 * Oerjan * (-240) This is all very well but I cannot see anything requiring the code tags at all 23:31:55 zzo38: there *could* be something i've missed that is interpreted as formatting, but i cannot find anything. 23:32:35 oerjan: What one is that? 23:33:22 zzo38: the one you added .lhs formatting to to hide the tags; afaict it works as plain .hs if you simply remove them instead. 23:33:49 (see HackEgo's announcement) 23:34:33 I didn't try that because I thought it might mess up the formatting 23:35:05 there are _some_ things that get interpreted inside an indented code block iirc, but they're rare. 23:36:02 I looked at your edit and it looks like it isn't messing it up so probably it is OK. 23:46:05 -!- shachaf has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 23:56:42 -!- dorei has quit. 23:56:51 -!- shachaf has joined. 23:58:59 -!- shachaf has quit (Client Quit).