< 1423008053 904228 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it the thing where he suddenly bans you from the channel? < 1423008069 569803 :Lilax!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that the other thing ;---; < 1423008074 411397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not banning anybody < 1423008087 109271 :Lilax!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm Elliott that eolus is a fake < 1423008096 751274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is so polite these days < 1423008100 472917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a dead client connecting, from the looks of it < 1423008104 988693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's from irccloud at least < 1423008125 684747 :Lilax!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did int-e get a message then? < 1423008141 433371 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno. < 1423008181 527960 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean I got messages but nothing private. Err... < 1423008205 549320 :Lilax!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1423008221 319131 :Lilax!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't let me join from irc cloud ;-; < 1423008234 641901 :Lilax!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fresh batch of frownies < 1423008241 172428 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I can't help milking a dead horse for puns. < 1423008246 833993 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or mixing metaphors. < 1423008369 446544 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1423008371 633651 :Guest80873!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iisofnjnlaflvfhn PRIVMSG #esoteric :hhh < 1423008375 795402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :metap-horses < 1423008384 454628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT SPEAKS < 1423008394 409916 :Lilax!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was me < 1423008407 481915 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :spooky < 1423008408 699354 :Lilax!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason its faded on irc cloud < 1423008421 64246 :Lilax!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it doesn't register as sent through < 1423008427 694779 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1423008437 799798 :Lilax!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but here It is < 1423008487 261088 :Lilax!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable < 1423008515 19652 :Lilax!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is what happens when I Try to log into that account < 1423008517 776612 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Too bad the pronunciation doesn't work out: "When I see a bad pun I just nod and simile." < 1423008590 977544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilax: you need to send "recover nick password" to nickserv in that case < 1423008592 748120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's really annoying) < 1423008623 465180 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1423008623 664241 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1423008626 374738 :Lilax!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the cmd < 1423008648 612305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like /pv nickserv or /query nickserv < 1423008653 945947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(/pv?? what a weird client) < 1423008711 412607 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also /quote nickserv ... (communication with services often has builtin support in the IRC server, so "nickserv" and "chanserv" work as IRC commands) < 1423008813 390021 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1423008833 424372 :Lilax!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1423008838 652289 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, elliott seems to have read some actual client documentation... < 1423008848 204196 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :/pv ... hmm. < 1423008864 748132 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :PriVate? < 1423008874 480972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that's cheating! < 1423008892 599587 :Lilax!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I < 1423008894 474450 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :PerVerted < 1423008899 404575 :Lilax!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dislike everything < 1423008963 699839 :Lilax!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1423008967 125291 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that include chocolate? < 1423008986 226894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1423009111 72272 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, "ten cent tents" can be parsed two ways. < 1423009228 649370 :Lilax!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423009251 490534 :Lilax!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net NICK :Guest92557 < 1423009299 140895 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1423009314 13339 :Guest92557!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate this clienr < 1423009395 354657 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423009418 113391 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.twogag.com/archives/1887 < 1423009425 568211 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Al Dente14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41801&oldid=41775 5* 0398.243.16.185 5* (+2691) 10Add some illustrative examples < 1423009489 711283 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1423009630 493805 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1423009651 813640 :Guest92557!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Lilax account will expire in 30 days if another Lilax comes in here or anyone named after me and my nicks itz not me < 1423009655 229353 :Guest92557!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yea < 1423009659 41057 :Guest92557!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye for a year < 1423009671 893450 :Guest92557!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o/ bye guys < 1423009677 289284 :Guest92557!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Guest92557 < 1423009697 666879 :Guest92557!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423009698 654360 :Guest92557!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop it client < 1423009719 206679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no escape < 1423009725 650268 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :use a hammer or a brick < 1423009727 342008 :Guest92557!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nuu < 1423009732 268469 :Guest92557!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye!! < 1423009739 671669 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :glad to help < 1423009849 937423 :MoALTz_!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423009975 200989 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have I missed? < 1423010003 299795 :Guest92557!~androirc@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1423010014 589826 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-133-72.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423010015 231743 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the usual, frustration, hatred, and outbreaks of outbursts. < 1423010326 433986 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1423010721 161841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :c'mon. < 1423011000 948485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cinnamon. < 1423011025 925611 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1423011903 268756 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1423012055 27471 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1423012080 279421 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423012202 136783 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423012251 449566 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking at Forth and some legit esolangs like False, True and Dup. < 1423012291 365726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :might add Underload then < 1423012292 425436 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to evolve and optimise algorithms using a GA < 1423012296 886372 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload eh? < 1423012310 365215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :another concatenative one < 1423012318 271409 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah joy is on my list too < 1423012352 838491 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not so much going for absurdity but I would like to enable self-modifying code < 1423012359 616755 :tswett2!~tswett@c-98-243-16-185.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423012387 957364 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do all these have separate program memory from the stack? < 1423012432 789017 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, what exactly is self-modifying code? Is the lambda calculus self-modifying? < 1423012442 933580 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423012447 331668 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it is < 1423012453 469420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's the control/return stack too, at least < 1423012462 696924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(don't know about True and Dup) < 1423012479 306656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok in that case underload is also self-modifying < 1423012493 608137 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the practical matter of self-modification is reaching into program data and reading constants and references < 1423012508 623993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and joy, too. < 1423012537 219200 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but the stack and the symbol table are disconnected right? < 1423012548 318040 :tswett!~tswett@c-98-243-16-185.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423012561 980103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well underload has no symbol table < 1423012571 183303 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to have a small instruction set but I'm aware of the turing tarpit quote from perlis < 1423012578 290090 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to check underload < 1423012654 842635 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah that looks cute < 1423012737 552339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Underload! )(~:S:^):^ < 1423012747 133590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops no fungot < 1423012756 488001 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's "the program" memory < 1423012765 731730 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the ^ pops into it < 1423012779 50046 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it appends? < 1423012787 932227 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh inserts < 1423012807 591329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also think of it as rewriting the program < 1423012811 217035 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow I'm going to have to think about this < 1423012819 698853 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I see that. I like the genericity < 1423012833 642570 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's really < 1423012835 821631 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : nice < 1423013004 851000 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the tip oerjan < 1423013010 21690 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome < 1423013050 304350 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so awesome there's a compiler written in redcode < 1423013059 657060 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :interpreter < 1423013217 185133 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice... scala underload compiler that compiles scala < 1423013229 497710 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote one in emmental, which btw is a self-modifying language where you modify the language _itself_. so my interpreter works by turning it into underload < 1423013244 172461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and that's also stacky < 1423013276 466353 :tswett3!~tswett@c-98-243-16-185.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423013283 724162 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah which < 1423013292 888997 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : is not always awesome on jvm < 1423013312 77112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant emmental < 1423013316 740129 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry my enter key is overexcited < 1423013324 615906 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :enmental... < 1423013343 147312 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good name < 1423013351 872277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit cheesy < 1423013360 496643 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might need to let that soak in < 1423013387 237804 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the interpreter loaded into the program space? < 1423013429 739301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall that you cannot really use the jvm stack directly for a stack language because the type checker won't accept it... < 1423013451 314282 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I'd love is a language where I can build crossover functions for a GA where the genotype corresponds to a program < 1423013457 707113 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1423013485 849967 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't use the stack directly in java but the real problem is there is no tail-call optimisation yet < 1423013493 566655 :tswett2!~tswett@c-98-243-16-185.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1423013495 367292 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so relying on recursion has limits < 1423013523 879025 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :clojure provides (recurse ) < 1423013586 476679 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jvm is dayjob-compliant ... < 1423013601 117356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1423013646 294393 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't that give you nightmares though? < 1423013669 977199 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ugzfemvowfcrlpje QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1423013719 138545 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : is the interpreter loaded into the program space? <-- not sure what you mean < 1423013770 721674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the official interpreter has a table from command characters to commands, essentially, which some of the commands update < 1423014023 178140 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-yolvohcgxkwmcnfh JOIN :#esoteric < 1423014176 373714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the type of that table is called Interpreter < 1423014423 298738 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423014946 573544 :tswett3!~tswett@c-98-243-16-185.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1423015094 12948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is reminded by blockzombie's nick to check up on bitcoin < 1423015106 411336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to still be slowly falling < 1423015645 95164 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :price is crazy < 1423015671 302721 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the price is not much affected by news on fundamentals at the moment < 1423015687 629895 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is mostly margin traders pushing it around < 1423015702 869761 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they love the volatility... hedge funds are moving in now < 1423015719 584825 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we're likely to see a major drop before the next bubble < 1423015743 282535 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely look into the tech though. < 1423015782 795644 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: not sure which nightmares you mean < 1423015813 159391 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nighmares about dayjobs, i assume < 1423015816 254675 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+t < 1423015841 967961 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i was asking whether you modify the language itself by having the program loaded in as a kind of #include for the interpreter and then self-modification === modifying the language < 1423015850 619657 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh no jvm is not so bad < 1423015860 893035 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :java is pretty uninspiring < 1423015868 780248 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :scala and clojure are fun < 1423015886 287821 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :might try haskell properly this year < 1423015891 932126 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do get to play with stuff < 1423015896 487563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the emmental interpreter is in haskell < 1423015910 324074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather basic haskell in fact < 1423015929 743875 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if i had written it it would have used a lot more higher order functions and monads) < 1423015937 949217 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm convinced haskell is awesome.. I've looked at it just not really got my hands dirty < 1423015965 544991 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you not write it? < 1423015976 605784 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1423015990 990122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, chris pressey is the author of both the language and the interpreter < 1423016002 251404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote the underload interpreter in emmental < 1423016036 653542 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooh < 1423016039 590756 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad < 1423016169 239921 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1423016170 77927 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i generated it with haskell, here's the program for that http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/emmental/EmmUnl.hs < 1423016245 555198 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like pretty tricky stuff to me < 1423016265 669007 :Guest80873!uid52684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iisofnjnlaflvfhn QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1423016299 199403 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is the output?: http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/emmental/ul.emm < 1423016379 966319 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1423016499 613273 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess what I'm trying to figure out is what program representation poses the easiest crossover function. If you're familiar with GA you wan to "breed" two programs and ideally preserve implementation features from each program < 1423016580 952490 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems very easy to end up with a situation like disassembling two clocks into a bag, shaking it and tipping out half. What you end up with is not much like a working clock - least one that shares much with either "parent" < 1423016624 273252 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm familiar with evolving corewar warriors < 1423016811 126839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have any real experience with GA < 1423016821 575301 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1423016867 181561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just looking at my own haskell program there, i had forgotten a lot of the trickiness. also it was the first time i tried using lens. < 1423017238 353889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :blockzombie: maybe you could use something like chromosomes... < 1423017283 358031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where your combined program parts are chosen from corresponding parts of the originals < 1423017350 611265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works to make living organisms have a good chance of still working, anyhow < 1423017482 400544 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but the mapping of parts has to be chosen < 1423017491 775827 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what constitutes a part? < 1423017507 904243 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in underload terms < 1423017533 123484 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there were modules then you could have intra and inter module variations < 1423017545 601288 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with different change coefficients < 1423017578 577574 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the idea. Is underload eqipped for this? < 1423017592 918995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably a part would be a sequence of commands... < 1423017621 268094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i assume you would have to keep track of the parts outside underload. < 1423017689 666983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload doesn't have much in the way of analyzing its own subprograms. < 1423017718 445479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a safe way, anyway. < 1423017719 332715 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah so part boundaries is what we're talking about. < 1423017763 387247 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect that something like 95% needs to be junk dna < 1423017770 164094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1423017780 420756 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this is how mutation levels are insulated against < 1423017788 869376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a bit troublesome on a stack, actually. < 1423017797 254324 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"junk dna" is a misnomer < 1423017820 951891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because how does the non-junk find its data if the stack is filled with junk < 1423017838 801291 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423017841 70829 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you do have nops i guess < 1423017851 644361 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :()! is the simplest < 1423017853 786967 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah well I'm not saying the stack is filled with junk, but the program is < 1423017885 903587 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the key is it's not clear which is junk and which is useful... that's up to the tree of future generations < 1423017887 51260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well badly constructed junk would tend to seep onto the stack :P < 1423017898 584470 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that is OK in theory < 1423017915 345258 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :most dna is uncompetitive < 1423017949 340169 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if I had a RISC cpu emulator instead of underload would I be any better off? < 1423017954 884606 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I'm trying to decide < 1423017987 715158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be that a language that keeps most of its data on the stack is unsuited to GA :( < 1423017989 244431 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first step is what set of producible programs are valid/executable < 1423018010 671304 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that is the case then I will use something else < 1423018012 743284 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because junk then gets in the way < 1423018036 56121 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was considering n-stacks < 1423018072 970934 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like pointers to stacks, also potentially a symbol table of sorts < 1423018089 334862 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's be a random lookup mechanism to keep parts and their data connected < 1423018115 405801 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the flip side is you want to enable code to read randomly because that's an essential combining effect < 1423018147 444890 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the good news is I only really need numeric types and I don't need any output < 1423018167 804998 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can just halt and use the top of the stack as the "result" < 1423018180 902526 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really only need a binary or ternary output < 1423018191 450216 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a scalar < 1423018204 235628 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thinking aloud here < 1423018268 723842 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reconsidering I think output is overkill... just use memory state at halt < 1423019337 924046 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason I like the stack is because you can get away from having loads of abitrary operands. maybe the existence of operands is better than the alternative: long chains of stack manipulation code < 1423019355 632087 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in this channel because I can't figure this out < 1423019359 90567 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet < 1423019467 278274 :dianne!~diannes@unaffiliated/dianne QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1423019596 634060 :dianne!~diannes@unaffiliated/dianne JOIN :#esoteric < 1423020969 227576 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Well, good luck < 1423023361 398538 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1423025081 428232 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423025608 123155 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1423025859 59368 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1423025859 606805 :blockzombie!~blockzomb@eth59-167-133-100.static.internode.on.net QUIT : < 1423026015 405435 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.82.24 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423026192 630586 :_AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.188.78.154 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423026259 687861 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1423026290 392731 :_AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.82.24 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423026527 357034 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.82.24 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1423026724 54007 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must've got it. < 1423028958 387598 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.72.107 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423029127 387246 :_AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.82.24 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1423029225 294842 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.189.72.107 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1423029433 179335 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1423030072 243242 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423031672 65291 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.188.78.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423031673 714690 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.188.78.93 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1423031725 145633 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.78.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423032087 54276 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.78.93 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1423035126 908418 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1423035519 95598 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.79.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423035611 692660 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.79.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of adding (more thinking about thinking of adding) a new catergory to the wiki. Esoteric languages usable on Anarchy Golf. < 1423035666 432587 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.79.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would you guys think. It's one of the few (only) places you can program in bonafide esolangs where it's of some - competative - use. < 1423035715 376110 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.79.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I came to esolangs via Anarchy Golf. I might not be the only one. < 1423036965 465081 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't seem useful because it depends on the whim of the anagol administrator; it could have anywhere from ten languages to the entire intersection of TC and Implemented < 1423037011 329480 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could make it a list article instead. Then you can also add content which would not fit in a category page. < 1423037031 473508 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.79.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. Good input. And that's a great idea. < 1423037232 187401 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.79.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I just have get over my natural ability to write stubby wiki articles. < 1423039150 770266 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1423040700 68189 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.79.148 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1423040703 897017 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.188.80.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423041777 288234 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1423041802 526809 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1423041825 277833 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423041870 645021 :supay|zzZZ!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pwtyrrbgyravrjxf QUIT : < 1423041904 337051 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eyhrcvtkbhshtoyp JOIN :#esoteric < 1423042843 395263 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1423044889 556276 :AndoDaan_!~AndoDaan@188.188.80.112 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423044956 864691 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1423048647 902490 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1423048985 240331 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423049243 429356 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.73.89 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423049342 737955 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-yolvohcgxkwmcnfh QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423049632 861659 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Elboza 5* 10New user account < 1423050188 829595 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck-ng14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=41802 5* 03Elboza 5* (+28767) 10Created page with "{{featured language}} {{infobox proglang |name=brainfuck |paradigms=imperative |author=[[Urban Müller]] |year=[[:Category:1993|1993]] |memsys=tape-based |dimensions=one-dimen..." < 1423050356 619756 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41803&oldid=41802 5* 03Elboza 5* (+14) 10 < 1423051132 774682 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1423051770 973671 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41804&oldid=41803 5* 03Elboza 5* (-24847) 10 < 1423051922 454728 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41805&oldid=41804 5* 03Elboza 5* (-42) 10/* Hello, World! */ < 1423051944 426041 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41806&oldid=41805 5* 03Elboza 5* (+3) 10/* Language overview */ < 1423051945 808142 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-uvonczergiaowvkm JOIN :#esoteric < 1423051999 830053 :Tefaj!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1423052029 890397 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41807&oldid=41806 5* 03Elboza 5* (-586) 10/* History */ < 1423052044 172982 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-167.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1423052104 391531 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1423052136 265444 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um. < 1423052150 628558 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not seeing the "-ng" part, I think. < 1423052166 633072 :PinealGl1ndOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423052234 381312 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a place to live next year almos < 1423052235 377733 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1423052388 370714 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think it's some kind of wip hth < 1423052395 908201 :trnv2!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1423052400 809457 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Tanelle. moving away from York? < 1423052430 350050 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, no, but my housemates are dispersing < 1423052434 153845 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I needed somewhere else < 1423052449 458546 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1423052455 195744 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1423052455 356866 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :*.net *.split < 1423052455 517697 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :*.net *.split < 1423052455 517754 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-167.rentec.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1423052455 678928 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1423052455 679028 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :*.net *.split < 1423052455 679126 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1423052455 679183 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :*.net *.split < 1423052462 705764 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm moving into private student halls < 1423052468 223815 :Tefaj!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet NICK :Jafet < 1423052476 878660 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PART :#esoteric < 1423052601 770133 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: so it goes. < 1423052632 334405 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: ABRIDGED CHICKEN < 1423052655 485655 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means I'm paying what I am now for rent but it includes utilities < 1423052672 810386 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.73.89 QUIT :Quit: Off to find the mythical clitoris. < 1423052745 118171 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Some men in Finland packed up the computers the other day. < 1423052775 111682 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Apparently they had also made disparaging comments about the amount of computers, and the weight of the monitor. < 1423052787 619132 :trnv2!jhj@trnsz.com NICK :trn < 1423052926 504402 :paul2520!~paul2520@104-6-13-61.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423052981 472398 :paul2520!~paul2520@104-6-13-61.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net NICK :Guest56395 < 1423053562 637306 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-51.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1423053606 319009 :variable!root@gateway/shell/trekweb.org/x-immrjokvclkoczee JOIN :#esoteric < 1423053606 480043 :variable!root@gateway/shell/trekweb.org/x-immrjokvclkoczee QUIT :Changing host < 1423053606 480167 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1423053829 685720 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :So come July probably I will be slightly further east than my current location < 1423054648 767030 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, Conor McBride is doing a seminar on dependent types in half an hour < 1423054652 160285 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should go < 1423054949 34864 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Mazeman 5* 10New user account < 1423055383 122222 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1423055638 551900 :Guest56395!~paul2520@104-6-13-61.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net NICK :paul2520 < 1423055669 518681 :paul2520!~paul2520@104-6-13-61.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net NICK :Guest22773 < 1423055690 834644 :Guest22773!~paul2520@104-6-13-61.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net NICK :paul2520 < 1423055715 268405 :paul2520!~paul2520@104-6-13-61.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Changing host < 1423055715 469129 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423056124 469600 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mice in a maze14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=41808 5* 03Mazeman 5* (+2180) 10Created page with "'''Mice in a maze''' is another brainfuck derivative. It was invented in 2015 by an anonymous user. Mice in a maze was inspired by items called cellular automata, especially C..." < 1423056162 274053 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41809&oldid=41796 5* 03Mazeman 5* (+21) 10/* M */ < 1423056208 476816 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mice in a maze14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41810&oldid=41808 5* 03Mazeman 5* (+6) 10/* Defining a maze */ < 1423056229 190673 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mice in a maze14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41811&oldid=41810 5* 03Mazeman 5* (+7) 10/* Defining a maze */ < 1423056255 76661 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mice in a maze14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41812&oldid=41811 5* 03Mazeman 5* (-6) 10/* Defining a maze */ < 1423056281 57628 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mice in a maze14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41813&oldid=41812 5* 03Mazeman 5* (+0) 10/* Basics */ < 1423056375 822302 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mice in a maze14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41814&oldid=41813 5* 03Mazeman 5* (+145) 10/* Syntax */ < 1423056388 598199 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mice in a maze14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41815&oldid=41814 5* 03Mazeman 5* (+1) 10/* = Example maze */ < 1423056424 149694 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mice in a maze14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41816&oldid=41815 5* 03Mazeman 5* (+0) 10/* Instructions */ < 1423056551 562039 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mice in a maze14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41817&oldid=41816 5* 03Mazeman 5* (+104) 10/* Instructions */ < 1423056567 233600 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mice in a maze14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41818&oldid=41817 5* 03Mazeman 5* (+0) 10/* Defining a maze */ < 1423056656 476947 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mice in a maze14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41819&oldid=41818 5* 03Mazeman 5* (+7) 10/* Example maze */ < 1423056683 665391 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1423056715 176507 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423057231 646948 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mice in a maze14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41820&oldid=41819 5* 03TomPN 5* (+430) 10/* Example programs */ < 1423057388 771513 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41821&oldid=41807 5* 03Elboza 5* (-76) 10 < 1423057512 943563 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41822&oldid=41821 5* 03Elboza 5* (+0) 10 < 1423058485 178235 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41823&oldid=41822 5* 03Elboza 5* (+727) 10 < 1423058568 251240 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41824&oldid=41823 5* 03Elboza 5* (+12) 10/* ReverseFuck mode */ < 1423058700 177057 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41825&oldid=41824 5* 03Elboza 5* (+74) 10/* ReverseFuck mode */ < 1423058776 842841 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41826&oldid=41825 5* 03Elboza 5* (+34) 10/* ReverseFuck mode */ < 1423058854 483013 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41827&oldid=41826 5* 03Elboza 5* (+0) 10 < 1423058931 987801 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41828&oldid=41827 5* 03Elboza 5* (+18) 10 < 1423059198 925932 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41829&oldid=41828 5* 03Elboza 5* (+9) 10 < 1423059442 980170 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1423059789 878824 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1423059839 389596 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1423060763 236221 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1423061208 807255 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1423061340 688263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :What is the land-speed velocity of a migrating fungot? | reaking ubbles and ursting arriers | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1423061421 504871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't sure whether "unladen" would be better or worse < 1423061763 39625 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1423061814 179370 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1423062119 278340 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1423062257 610468 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1423062448 226896 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-51.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423062588 827533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh testing if my stomach had got well enough to drink orange juice again was a mistake. < 1423062736 585055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the test results were "no") < 1423063018 426368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the keyboard controls of tatham's Bridges are somewhat annoying, you cannot always easily undo a wrong cursor movement < 1423063081 596419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's too easy to jump away from a node that's hard to get back to < 1423063564 581477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which might be fine for a different kind of game, but here navigation isn't supposed to be the real puzzle... < 1423063568 228311 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, no java plugin here. < 1423063616 394936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: if you're looking at tatham's puzzles, i think there's also js versions? (i'm playing the offline downloaded versions) < 1423063725 605962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm not really assuming you're talking about that, mind you) < 1423063734 262094 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah it's Hashiwokakero. < 1423063775 13655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of tatham's puzzles are renamed nikoli puzzles, i think < 1423063778 752680 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I googled, and the first hit was the java version. < 1423063786 491172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even sudoku got a different name < 1423063878 716147 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1423064014 539405 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423064049 298945 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1423064380 280754 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I seem to be too used to Nikoli's interface (which doesn't have the feature of locking completed nodes, but marks them in gray, and which allows removing bridges by clicking on them.) < 1423064719 854562 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1423064761 236564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, removing a single bridge is a litle awkward < 1423064848 24183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you just added it, then "u"ndo works of course < 1423064853 462417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+t < 1423064962 835398 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1423065041 290520 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c NICK :Tritonio < 1423065468 329084 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Intgr 5* 10New user account < 1423065613 92756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: is that you, but more grammatical? < 1423065654 248226 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1423065700 301075 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423065795 723038 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: seems unlikely < 1423065822 794172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1423065855 30611 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, the keyboard *navigation* for the bridges thing is awkward... < 1423065873 212144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i was saying duh < 1423065961 288282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get used to it, but don't make any typing mistakes... < 1423065967 277482 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1423066092 490625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are always the "how the f do i get to there" moments < 1423066145 656139 :rsal!rsal@82.128.138.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423066164 411643 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this all about? < 1423066176 127685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tatham's Bridges puzzle < 1423066205 875364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which int-e has pointed out is a version of nikoli's Hashiwokakero < 1423066258 2535 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I see, but that's not how I understood your complaint at first. (Personally I don't really find myself wanting to undo much; however I do find myself pressing cursor keys randomly to get to a nearby-but-not-adjacent spot.) < 1423066304 588448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that just doesn't work... < 1423066333 531457 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1423066387 332481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :undo is _very_ nice when you realize you've made a mistake a while ago < 1423066474 491838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i sometimes end up carefully undoing each step, checking if it was actually certain, getting back to the beginning of the game, winding forward and discovering my second to last step was fishier than it looked at first recheck < 1423066577 407118 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the unlimited undo mechanism is common to all of tatham's puzzles, of course. < 1423066652 176229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did i do wrong _now_ < 1423066842 931602 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41830&oldid=41829 5* 03Elboza 5* (+1765) 10 < 1423066876 646812 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423067546 89253 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41831&oldid=41830 5* 03Elboza 5* (+424) 10 < 1423067755 322515 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm, the javascript version gets stuck from time to time for me, refusing to process further events :/ < 1423067850 476719 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41832&oldid=41831 5* 03Elboza 5* (+174) 10 < 1423067872 322059 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. "Cannot enlarge memory arrays." ... apparently 30x30 is too much for the thing. < 1423067945 562260 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41833&oldid=41832 5* 03Elboza 5* (+0) 10 < 1423068068 406224 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41834&oldid=41833 5* 03Elboza 5* (+4) 10 < 1423068221 602322 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41835&oldid=41834 5* 03Elboza 5* (+12) 10 < 1423068247 707774 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my best friend might be getting a job in finland < 1423068275 977637 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is the economy in finland these days? < 1423068301 726069 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423068369 547480 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not good. < 1423068388 497868 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all relative, of course. < 1423068406 930470 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think Finland is technically still in a "slump". < 1423068442 358901 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1423068491 192350 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.oecd.org/economy/surveys/economic-survey-finland.htm and I don't think things have improved terribly much since that was updated. < 1423068529 857393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you don't have to use the web interface, there are native compiled versions you can download if you want. < 1423068566 973474 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Web framework list14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=41836 5* 03Intgr 5* (+678) 10List of esoteric web application frameworks. Most of these are fully functional web frameworks that aren't about making the coder's life easier. Often they are a response to the hype wave surrounding some technologies (such as Ruby on Rails). < 1423068657 896153 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know, but couldn't be bothered. The generated problems don't look all that interesting. < 1423068664 774993 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Web framework list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41837&oldid=41836 5* 03Intgr 5* (-55) 10Not a functional framework < 1423068700 921451 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1423068740 847594 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (I'm actually still at work.) < 1423068796 376962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bridges doesn't seem to generate very hard problems. although i recall it used to be even worse. < 1423068799 255710 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otoh I missed the source code in my previous visits to that website < 1423068855 498374 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: increasing the size to 30x30 seemed to help a little. But of course then it becomes tedious to get to the few non-trivial conclusions. < 1423068868 15668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: nice (Re: computers) < 1423068869 641560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*re: < 1423068959 345755 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1423069323 25050 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1423069440 491200 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423069458 24345 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1423069499 129468 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423069678 227787 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Web framework list14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=41838 5* 03Intgr 5* (+870) 10Background for creating this pagfe < 1423069710 414098 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Web framework list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41839&oldid=41837 5* 03Intgr 5* (-98) 10Per discussion at [[Talk:Cobol on Cogs]], it's just a joke and not real working software < 1423069774 935063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1423070172 917847 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: gtg < 1423070337 31683 :TieWorking!~quassel@86.89.119.147 NICK :TieSoul < 1423070923 217465 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423071046 370753 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1423071946 515651 :oren!~oren@user3-216-41.wireless.utoronto.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1423072136 816718 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1423072158 517204 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1423072366 582385 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-39-54.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1423072376 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1423073586 772270 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1423073896 181499 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1423074326 906265 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1423074550 315477 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1423075364 418546 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1423075544 884812 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-143-251.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1423075615 566563 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-143-251.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1423075737 263234 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-186.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1423075799 422941 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-084-062-103-186.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1423075894 637088 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia JOIN :#esoteric < 1423076043 238813 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1423076828 495865 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1423077137 249307 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1423077246 855495 :lawspeaker!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1423078268 860969 :intgr!~ftw@wikipedia/intgr JOIN :#esoteric < 1423080191 932420 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1423080313 460648 :oren!~oren@user3-216-41.wireless.utoronto.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1423081171 378638 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1423081245 910478 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423081552 936644 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1423081810 745480 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : whoah: http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/134672-harvard-cracks-dna-storage-crams-700-terabytes-of-data-into-a-single-gram < 1423082183 556298 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1423082281 67189 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's amazing < 1423082312 496115 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1423082428 232284 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-2-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1423082458 907971 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but couldn't they use quaternary instead of binary? would make storage more dense, right? < 1423082546 437899 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, A = 0, T = 1, C = 2, G = 3 < 1423082569 664031 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why they didn't do that < 1423083544 377699 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1423083596 932695 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1423085210 851394 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1423085394 410734 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07List of ideas14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41840&oldid=41525 5* 0369.166.47.107 5* (+384) 10Rely on SSRI and say 'hi-ho' in the coffee shop. < 1423085463 851978 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that would be missleading if you start reading the wrong helix < 1423085645 268103 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423085865 11675 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck-ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41841&oldid=41835 5* 03Elboza 5* (+72) 10 < 1423086471 645705 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1423086493 352449 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1423086521 354508 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1423086948 195421 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiesoul: even stranger that each binary value cknsists of both a purine and pyrimidine. you'd think it would easier to distinguish those from each other than those of the same shape < 1423087792 606739 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1423087855 458973 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1423088036 43984 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Client Quit < 1423088467 721522 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423088640 208768 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1423088833 828028 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Client Quit < 1423089130 381807 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.73.89 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423090232 577498 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1423090281 561524 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :Quit: "I can hear myself... I think I'm a bit afraid." < 1423090558 401205 :tswett!~tswett@c-98-243-16-185.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423090740 290509 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1423090784 235637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1423091417 379608 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. Staring at a Javascript exercise unsure how to solve it, when some tinkering reveals you can more or less write point-free style in JS too, of a sort: function squareDigits(num){ return parseInt(num.toString().split("").map(function (x) { return x*x; }).join(""));} < 1423091542 938801 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1423091652 927454 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1423091709 447342 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423091761 309991 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1423091779 371563 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423092597 933614 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1423092711 888937 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1423092733 868572 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1423093209 304887 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1423093598 119893 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1423093934 86010 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric