< 1423267784 133465 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 NICK :^v < 1423267863 280752 :^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 QUIT :Quit: Network ban < 1423267878 249954 :^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423268171 640774 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1423268553 326330 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1423269306 319156 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1423269489 580106 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423270760 431946 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it reasonable or unreasonable to expect alpha software to not crash and die on untrusted input? < 1423271924 105454 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: What's the software? < 1423271933 407025 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JanusVR < 1423271965 925673 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and is it a segfault? < 1423271999 680858 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Browsers really should handle untrusted inputs well, because the entirety of the web is an untrusted input.. < 1423272067 252363 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The question is, as alpha software? < 1423272077 169759 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure what sort of issue < 1423272087 632607 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/janusVR/comments/2v191r/security/ < 1423272167 485870 :Adrop!~Adrop@149.255.32.238 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423272283 368442 :Adrop!~Adrop@149.255.32.238 PART :#esoteric < 1423272805 177893 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course any internet client or server needs to untrust the input from the other side please (although they could have configuration options to partially trust them, it should normally be untrusted by default; some internet software might be very special case though so they have other requirements). < 1423273821 240146 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1423274090 498374 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1423274176 153022 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1423274314 897652 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :No more unreasonable than expecting ubiquitous release-version software to get pwnedzord on untrusted input < 1423274322 9348 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :which it does, every day < 1423274547 117287 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bzomdmmgswzjxqna QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1423274560 782661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is pretty sure Jafet reversed his sense of meaning there < 1423274701 429620 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wavbduzwdophkwbi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1423275444 641812 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: depends what kind of software it is < 1423275636 999033 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Web browsers are effectively interpreters for a messy dialect group of programming languages. < 1423275662 277195 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1423275664 20465 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So i wouldn't say it's unexpected that they could segfault < 1423275683 580516 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1423275726 266708 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't unexpected but it still isn't supposed to and it is still way too messy even if it doesn't segfault. < 1423275748 258917 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423275762 591526 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1423276062 562565 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway this JanusVR thing looks like crap. If you're going to reinvent the internet, make it entirely new and better, standardize it, and for the love of god, don't base it on XML. < 1423276146 507403 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423276196 142155 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Web, technically, not internet. < 1423276407 909141 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not even neccisarily a full replacement for browsers. < 1423276423 645800 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. The main problem is that the web is an application framework that evolved from a document format. < 1423276466 418982 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems more like a VR thing that happens to use web pages as supplimentary source of level design. < 1423276513 679623 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I wouldn't mind, but if something's going to be a web browser it should follow an open specification. < 1423276526 438054 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The web is a terrible mess. < 1423276535 190327 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not neccesarilly an enforced standard, though. < 1423276561 766649 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You call it "an application framework that evolved from a document format", but actually it is a mess. < 1423276623 298258 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION scraps javacript and CSS for not being based on SGML. < 1423276751 417825 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I agree. < 1423276882 941516 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why so many websites now have their own apps < 1423276911 398991 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423276973 989454 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: That isn't really quite a solution either < 1423276999 345135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1423276999 702436 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 070150Z 26027KT 9999 BKN028 06/02 Q1009 RMK WIND 670FT 26025G39KT < 1423277017 410531 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which part of that tells that the weather is getting ugly twh < 1423277018 68025 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: it has a web browser in it. < 1423277027 447506 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you press esc, you see the web page version of the world you're in < 1423277035 895383 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also can put web pages on surfaces < 1423277064 749849 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there's a VR client that doens't have a web browser of some sort built in. < 1423277084 533768 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for maybe a few that are built into web browser. < 1423277086 858176 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Flatland? < 1423277110 607754 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a Netscape plugin, so it's in another browser already. < 1423277116 486925 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1423277120 728566 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know a "web os" that has a web browser < 1423277126 859570 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*knew < 1423277132 469898 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*had or has? < 1423277133 714046 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I think there are some VR clients which don't have a web browser or be a web browser plugin. < 1423277136 742753 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the standalone Flatland rover, but I haven't used it. < 1423277152 153886 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is Gopher VR, for one thing, and a few others I forget. < 1423277175 102422 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will soon have an Oculus, hopefully < 1423277216 818514 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to put a web browser in a game i was making, but it turned out to be too hard < 1423277237 86114 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML (even a small subset) is too hard to parse < 1423277311 422042 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put pod in then < 1423277326 221551 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I put TTML it < 1423277328 144517 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully is a bit more easily than HTML. < 1423277330 180213 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in < 1423277357 214353 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pod? < 1423277364 739174 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The format used in Perl < 1423277382 845183 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pod is a nice format < 1423277490 633933 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean timed text or tagged text? < 1423277513 209916 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the esolang < 1423277531 858872 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So neither of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TTML < 1423277539 952503 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :which uses the C0 control codes for formatting < 1423277572 448250 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Ttml < 1423277650 404728 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xolaskxgnxqdoogz JOIN :#esoteric < 1423277704 343621 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the version my game implements, the ^[ ^] codes are used for formatting the hyperlinks < 1423277770 835049 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds similar to ANSI escape codes. < 1423277773 642531 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANSI_escape_code < 1423277839 937621 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like ^[next/page/path^_Click < 1423277846 546415 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here ^] < 1423277868 634424 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the links would be formatted like that < 1423278186 268934 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit would people please stop writing japanese with Chinese Simplified characters?! < 1423278285 477296 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes please do and start writing with Japanese characters. (I also don't like Simplified Chinese, but that is a different thing.) < 1423278335 252916 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I mean: http://snag.gy/eVLhS.jpg < 1423278537 684503 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just go ahead and write things in Sarus. < 1423278567 889523 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lyrics should say: 君の向かい風 僕が背に受 < 1423278593 173018 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Aaaagh! Wrong wrong wrong! < 1423278618 389507 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note the difference in the third and fourth kanji < 1423278650 856257 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: me or the screenshot's lyrics < 1423278652 861584 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1423278661 569614 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The screenshot's. < 1423278696 706433 :naturalog!~naturalog@213.57.64.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha oren i was sure you're israeli, oren is a hebrew name and means palm (the tree) :) < 1423278714 737277 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :naturallog: I'm Canadian < 1423278757 478898 :naturalog!~naturalog@213.57.64.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i was canadian too :) haha really :( < 1423278839 346753 :naturalog!~naturalog@213.57.64.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw is anyone here familiar with the lang Maude? i was wondering where it is on the lambda cube < 1423278952 453703 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it'd be on a different cube < 1423278966 959064 :naturalog!~naturalog@213.57.64.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes possibly < 1423278968 259235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(whichever prolog is in) < 1423278975 341297 :naturalog!~naturalog@213.57.64.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah gotcha < 1423279006 341622 :naturalog!~naturalog@213.57.64.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but couldnt be sure about it. im also new to the lambda stuff < 1423279043 713661 :naturalog!~naturalog@213.57.64.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaict prolog is FOL, still Maude is HOL < 1423279055 878269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't actually know maude, just looking at the wikipedia article < 1423279092 118985 :naturalog!~naturalog@213.57.64.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering cause im interested on this formalism http://federwin.sip.ucm.es/sic/investigacion/publicaciones/pdfs/Kademlia%20SpecificationSummary0212.pdf < 1423279096 71207 :naturalog!~naturalog@213.57.64.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kad < 1423279401 857742 :Tod-Autojoined!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net NICK :TodPunk < 1423279715 347977 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.82.40 QUIT :Quit: Going, going, gone. < 1423279953 701196 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"First we define the sort Bit"... God damn it why are booleans not built in???? < 1423279996 615898 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/why are/why; are/ < 1423280018 429104 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1423280219 485473 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1423280282 909263 :raptural!~textual@ip68-12-126-92.ok.ok.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423280288 436595 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qqcatunyfavekytb JOIN :#esoteric < 1423280324 170525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why build booleans in if you don't have to < 1423280347 357610 :raptural!~textual@ip68-12-126-92.ok.ok.cox.net PART #esoteric :"Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com" < 1423280354 888531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this from anyway < 1423280361 526612 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The pdf above < 1423280442 905719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay yes so it's in some speicifcation language < 1423280449 855835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, I don't get why you're complaining about this < 1423280456 236798 :rodgort!~rodgort@105.ip-167-114-152.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423280554 423408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also looks like it does and they defined everything themselves for simplicity or greater control: "NOTE: If you want to test these examples on your own, you should start Maude with the option -no-prelude which lets Maude know that none of its basic modules are included (like Maude's own NAT module which will cause a conflict)." < 1423280571 325617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, potentially. it's possible that it has naturals but not bits.) < 1423280579 909232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, bits and booleans aren't really the same thing < 1423280588 413287 :rodgort!~rodgort@105.ip-167-114-152.net QUIT :Excess Flood < 1423280589 689042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 isn't inherently a false-y bit < 1423280603 496383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and having to write [false,true,true,false] for 0110 is a pain < 1423280636 265080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"And as you can see the state this person ends up in might look a bit strange. (When you're married at the age of one you kind of stick out a bit in kindergarten I guess)." wikipedia's article on maude is a wild ride < 1423280841 632468 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1423280871 979899 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god it went back to simplified chinese < 1423280932 45328 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i'm surprised wikipedia's people didn't "clean it up" by making it all unfun < 1423280999 103480 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia is full of killjoys < 1423281193 890345 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write [ja,da,da,ja]. Or [da,ja,ja,da]. < 1423281217 691653 :dianne!~diannes@unaffiliated/dianne QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423281264 537893 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1423281336 983426 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: what language is that? < 1423281337 231213 :dianne!~diannes@unaffiliated/dianne JOIN :#esoteric < 1423281368 306463 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever" three gods language < 1423282516 445752 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1423282806 390708 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423283220 352174 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1423283331 798560 :rodgort!~rodgort@2607:5300:100:200::160d JOIN :#esoteric < 1423283410 788644 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google translate doesn't work well on multilingual text < 1423283660 928167 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: Addendum: When a God is asked a question that they cannot answer in a logically consistent way, they smite you. Good luck. < 1423283937 91235 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://postimg.org/image/lf1xao06b/ < 1423283972 25067 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does this when the rest of the page is in Chinese < 1423283995 454105 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have to assume that you automatically lose if smited and are not allowed to figure out the answer after that? < 1423284042 855980 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm not sure. Usually, when solving a puzzle involves my own death, I look for a new one. < 1423284092 435365 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A setting where gods exist tends to involve an afterlife < 1423284119 73198 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although if smited you would probably end up living with the liar god < 1423284186 337954 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: https://xkcd.com/246/ is relevant, too. < 1423284281 320468 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423284498 605050 :naturalog!~naturalog@213.57.64.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic they do mention calculus of constructions "near" maude, maybe its dtlc http://maude.cs.illinois.edu/w/index.php?title=Other_Tools < 1423284518 941035 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Unless you can prove that you would end up living with the liar god, such thing doesn't help. < 1423284777 127275 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think living with the liar god would be particularly annyoing compared to the others. < 1423284831 938270 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423284854 146549 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The coin flip god could get tiresome just because you'd have to be mroe vrbose in aksing questions. < 1423284868 607360 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net NICK :Guest61957 < 1423284891 254432 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether or not it is annoying doesn't seem to be relevant? < 1423284924 357029 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only if you can win or not by figuring out the question, isn't it? < 1423284967 158991 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was under the impression oren would sent people to the liar god when smiting them due to presuming that this would be the relatively "bad" afterlife. < 1423285009 506585 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If being smited doesn't automatically mean you lose, then being smited is just another way to answer your question isn't it? Therefore you can figure it out from that. < 1423285019 508639 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1423285105 305549 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My aforementioned comment directed towards oren is beyond the scope of the puzzle. < 1423285234 545039 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... I was going off of Christian mythology where Satan is the prince of lies. < 1423285353 388132 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes sense, though he sounds more like a Bizzaro. < 1423285402 301397 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worse would be if you had to live with someone who only communicates in yes-no responses as your only source of conversation to begin with. < 1423285408 966246 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :For extra-bizzaro, Jesus is referred to as "lucifer" in the Vulgate. < 1423285551 408703 :chaosagent!~quassel@c-98-210-97-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423285566 253466 :naturalog!~naturalog@213.57.64.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"16:02 < MDude> Worse would be if you had to live with someone who only communicates in yes-no responses as your only" i think the concept of undecidability comes clear when someone pushes you to answer yes/no only < 1423285578 605992 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it might be a title because he is often called light of the world, but that isn't his name, although neither is Jesus; his name is supposed to be Yeshua Ben Josef. < 1423285614 57911 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't have a copy of Vulgate anyways. < 1423285615 650167 :naturalog!~naturalog@213.57.64.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ yes on the hebrew sources he's called Yeshua < 1423285642 549079 :naturalog!~naturalog@213.57.64.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Yosef < 1423285734 207226 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It was used to describe him as the "light of the world", yes. < 1423285833 235268 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: So, even if it looks like "extra-bizzaro", at least I can see the reason clearly. < 1423285848 90006 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nod* < 1423285848 251042 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So in English his name would be Jesus Jesephson? < 1423285869 937711 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: No, "Jesus Ben Josef" or "Yeshua Ben Josef". < 1423285881 884107 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Modern English doesn't have a rule of Anglicizing names. < 1423285883 192737 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I think so, but I don't study all that history? < 1423285965 735758 :naturalog!~naturalog@213.57.64.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: :) < 1423285980 4595 :naturalog!~naturalog@213.57.64.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yeshua Ben Yosef < 1423285991 936707 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :naturalog: XD You are right. < 1423286008 676748 :naturalog!~naturalog@213.57.64.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jou are right too < 1423286038 800931 :Guest61957!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Changing host < 1423286038 961897 :Guest61957!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1423286056 418700 :Guest61957!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem NICK :Sprocklem < 1423286058 633575 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What little I know of Christianity is from interactions with the Christian half of my family < 1423286094 292950 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I dunno if the Devil is supposed to lie all the time, or just sometimes < 1423286145 121872 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Some things I know of Christianity from my family but also from studying; sometimes I read various book and learn various stuff, and sometimes I just ask a question, or I just heard/read what someone else has said. < 1423286149 660079 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the logic puzzles I've seen He seems to lie constantly. < 1423286180 300086 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is, of course, a stupid strategy for an evil entity. < 1423286247 99352 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He did invent lies, not neccessarily perfect using them. < 1423286264 755822 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: That's just a made up puzzle situation anyways though, so it doesn't matter if other entity's strategy is stupid as long as it is formalized isn't it? < 1423286535 496167 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1423286812 557398 :^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1423286835 305757 :^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423287934 121073 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1423288289 93070 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1423288804 37987 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1423289218 649313 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1423289253 905437 :Guest11!~textual@ip68-12-126-92.ok.ok.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423289482 927981 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1423289614 278763 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: no, I think the trope is that the Devil never lies, but he uses confusing statements and twisting words < 1423289647 432212 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1423289708 361599 :Guest11!~textual@ip68-12-126-92.ok.ok.cox.net QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1423290467 590158 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I see < 1423290495 890837 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~KingOfKar@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1423290611 359462 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~KingOfKar@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe JOIN :#esoteric < 1423290641 69410 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ttml14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41860&oldid=41403 5* 03Orenwatson 5* (+1) 10uugh, i must have been drunk < 1423291423 693490 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423291492 673869 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423292216 668643 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1423293443 94373 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to think of how to combine mahjong with Magic: the Gathering. < 1423293497 547240 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I came up with is the mahjong hand is played during the oya's precombat main and dobon rule must be used < 1423293536 365031 :naturalog!~naturalog@213.57.64.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1423293673 473068 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can have 1 life point = 1000 mahjong point; fractional life points remain unaffected by Magic: the Gathering except if you have 100-900 you still don't lose. < 1423293814 597528 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would you think is better way? < 1423293896 318807 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1423293898 904443 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDream < 1423294016 356288 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.64.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423294123 238659 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423294268 601615 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1423295092 635801 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423295615 344016 :Qfwfq!~WashIrvin@unaffiliated/washirving NICK :Qfwfq|zzz < 1423296110 481974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1423298224 266168 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1423298311 312996 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1423300002 478988 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Wct14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=41861 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+479) 10/* The Greeks already did this. */ new section < 1423300113 635553 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1423300281 778589 :Qfwfq|zzz!~WashIrvin@unaffiliated/washirving NICK :Qfwfq < 1423300507 226347 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1423301221 398759 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1423301655 337402 :^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1423301681 294900 :^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423302281 321202 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423303036 467505 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1423303333 389827 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-111.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1423304019 967746 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423304701 374019 :chaosagent!~quassel@c-98-210-97-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1423305106 410133 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.64.18 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423305213 808513 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.94.159 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423305543 242634 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.94.159 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1423305793 596158 :Froo!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz NICK :Frooxius < 1423305809 815128 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1423305862 255205 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.81.52 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423306068 502998 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1423306072 621283 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1423306131 374858 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.81.52 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1423306335 882133 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.72.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423306577 906351 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz NICK :Frooxius < 1423306994 429553 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I miss tail call optimization. :P < 1423307225 299068 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1423307619 839823 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: I do tail calls with Goto in C < 1423307637 304931 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh heh. < 1423307644 934762 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno if JS has that. < 1423307690 633299 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But for some reason people frown on me setting all the parameters and 'goto start;' < 1423307872 70466 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can sometimes convert a goto to a do{}while() loop < 1423307904 964904 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of people forget all about the humble do{}while() loop < 1423307982 407939 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is bizarre. My code doesn't terminate unless I use my function as a method instead of a function ... < 1423308022 614931 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nm, I see what I've done wrong. weird as hell that it works that way at all ... < 1423308246 614776 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1423308494 586252 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat. a CMS in haskell. https://github.com/lambdacms/lambdacms-core < 1423308838 857732 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basics of web design http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/basics/index.php < 1423308887 392561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/basics/splash3.gif is a fantastic image < 1423308893 178046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can gravity assist you? < 1423308960 493340 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can. Oberth Manever < 1423308975 810990 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, gravity helps me stay on the ground sometimes < 1423308979 951854 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it has a lot of potential. < 1423309002 157913 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Potentially"?) < 1423309056 283095 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: http://kangax.github.io/compat-table/es6/ < 1423309120 7628 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Yeah, really looking forward to ES6. < 1423309156 780193 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, looks like fucking no one supports it yet, standard or no. . . :P < 1423309245 393435 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like comparison tables that have single-valued rows < 1423309639 857576 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423310386 233731 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: It's a nice table. < 1423310450 223971 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also amusing that IE tech preview rates higher in compliance than anything except 6to5 transpilers ... < 1423310515 523183 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : It can. Oberth Manever < 1423310529 870361 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :effect, not manoeuvre, and i think they were probably referring to gravity assists < 1423310578 275404 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1423311665 488046 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1423312521 389535 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1423312601 856784 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423312706 318282 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423312807 517445 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-084-062-103-186.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1423312894 629582 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-084-062-103-186.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1423313087 569738 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1423314667 642773 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423315083 662648 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423316164 619271 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-186.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recently used a foreach-until loop. >ω> < 1423316271 853483 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1423316515 619436 :^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1423316539 277160 :^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423316575 55430 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-084-062-103-186.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1423316588 297969 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-186.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: rebooting < 1423316756 286321 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-186.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1423316946 265846 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-084-062-103-186.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1423316998 936833 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1423317352 432471 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1423317353 689924 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: TRICKLING CHICKEN < 1423317417 267789 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: foreach-until? < 1423317441 17491 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean having a conditional break at the end of the loop? < 1423317612 125265 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-186.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Well, no, It was actually phrased foreach … until, because in the language in question you can use any loop opener with any loop closer. The effect is the same though. < 1423317718 126286 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1423317739 495405 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: So, does that language allow a while while loop? < 1423317835 359451 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-186.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, while is neither an opener nor a closer, but actually a negative conditional break. It’s a forth variant btw. < 1423318406 671256 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1423318563 264404 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-186.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically you use “begin … repeat” (by itself an infinite loop) and stick “ while” in there. At the beginning it’s like a while loop, at the end it’s like a do-while loop. < 1423318607 430428 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neat < 1423318612 867725 :S1!~S1@p4FF925C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1423320320 259718 :S1!~S1@p4FF925C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1423320320 460251 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :*.net *.split < 1423320320 621065 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1423320320 621174 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :*.net *.split < 1423320320 782043 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1423320320 942920 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :*.net *.split < 1423320329 262702 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1423320331 504994 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1423320346 385620 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1423320417 619137 :S1!~S1@p4FF925C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1423320450 18909 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1423320485 406234 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423320627 238210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1423320851 409607 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-116-33.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1423321487 868735 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1423322077 244718 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me of how Python has while-else and try-else. < 1423322175 919142 :S1!~S1@p4FF925C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: S1 < 1423322379 414152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: what language? < 1423322741 304080 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-186.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: MUF, a forthish variant, a scripting language used in some MU*s, but my only resource on it (the guy who asked for help) says every place that uses it has its own incompatible set of builtins and such. < 1423322755 933050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1423323423 238198 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-215-85-138.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1423323710 658645 :rodgort!~rodgort@2607:5300:100:200::160d QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1423323854 549607 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1423323946 626080 :rodgort!~rodgort@105.ip-167-114-152.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423324248 204541 :rodgort!~rodgort@105.ip-167-114-152.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423324852 960762 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1423325139 82258 :rodgort!~rodgort@105.ip-167-114-152.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423325655 222771 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1423326292 304076 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1423326386 992973 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1423328195 624113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Latër < 1423328195 784856 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-084-062-103-186.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1423328211 417218 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-084-062-103-186.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1423328884 357708 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-73-18-212-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423329094 159190 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should do a #howesolangerslook < 1423329105 335503 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :as an analogy to #howgamerslook < 1423329218 336387 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks skeptically < 1423329253 436091 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-73-18-212-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1423330801 635434 :arjanb!8259aaa3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.89.170.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1423331455 123357 :^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1423331479 238956 :^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423331490 493912 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a name for the class of languages which are turing complete when their output is pumped back into the program? < 1423331495 63285 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg. C preprocessor? < 1423331576 404164 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-73-18-212-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423331646 339140 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423331922 251436 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: So, turing complete when stuck in an outer loop? < 1423331928 873807 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1423331966 705122 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a very big category < 1423332171 584876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pretty much anything that can branch" < 1423332177 992057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*everything < 1423332185 153500 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1423332191 279472 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :trees are turing complete < 1423332201 232587 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1423332301 734363 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: yes, because they are stuck in the seasons loop < 1423332312 758061 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, neat http://fll.presidentbeef.com/ < 1423332319 472897 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1423332344 440806 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423332429 240146 :adu_!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423332447 584796 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1423332460 692163 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a list of languages that aren't neccessarily esoteric, but aren't widespread either. < 1423332462 6292 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :These creepy lumber jacks are always trying to destroy my turing machines. < 1423332485 30377 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If fungot were here he would think the same way < 1423332534 599946 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the kind of language the reversible language I want to get to will be. < 1423332567 237493 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1423332567 482954 :adu_!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net NICK :adu < 1423332589 730110 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll only have branchine, but its output is to meant to get pumped back into it, with parts of it optionally replaced by input. < 1423332629 452769 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kittenlang.org/ < 1423332631 385513 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it < 1423332644 498078 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's statically typed and stack based < 1423332648 134677 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's always a plus point < 1423332770 122204 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. I should submit Heresy to that. < 1423332825 222516 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1423332848 335723 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1423332861 356267 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuck in an outer loop is the same as having a recursive function < 1423332893 317686 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok not exactly the same < 1423332900 219356 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think same enough :) < 1423333980 851416 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello mroman < 1423334034 111885 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1423334140 671979 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1423334190 169739 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the imitation game any good < 1423334264 603601 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1423334270 510512 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what game? < 1423334334 300447 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1423334393 785803 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the movie the imitation game < 1423334598 550631 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.72.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there anything like an Object Oriented Assembly language in existance? < 1423334862 669035 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might consider jvm bytecodes to be essentially that? a lot of the abstraction of objects is removed... < 1423335133 572374 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.72.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kinda just threw to words together. But that's quite a good interpretation, I think. < 1423335291 874985 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: Yes. I can't remember what it's called though. < 1423335356 977408 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's this for instance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Level_Assembly < 1423335461 901337 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.72.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"object-oriented assembly language programming." Didn't actually think it would exist. < 1423335487 99976 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1423335582 935779 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Wct14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41862&oldid=41858 5* 03Mihip 5* (+891) 10/* Examples */ < 1423335599 938726 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1423336464 462214 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/NKldiU4a < 1423336469 292762 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :May I present to you < 1423336470 674327 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :IOLesque < 1423336474 644537 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Burlesque with IO :) < 1423336512 777767 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.72.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D, you've been busy. < 1423336655 933710 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423336666 561743 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/kV0MSf49 < 1423336678 206560 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Burlesque is becoming somewhat shellscripty I guess < 1423336800 685880 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.72.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool. When Anagol adopts it, we'll finally be able to do the "123" golf task. < 1423336826 275609 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.72.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, does the time thingie show milliseconds? < 1423336841 150914 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :time /t doesn't show milliseconds < 1423336850 755317 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.72.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seconds...? < 1423336863 478976 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm:ss < 1423336869 600226 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :time /t is windows though < 1423337017 30795 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1423337021 828747 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not backwards compatible < 1423337036 577128 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I need some characters to signal "io expression" or "blsq expression" < 1423337037 960615 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1423337106 794441 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :iosq? < 1423337214 697842 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1423337483 186995 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: there's also blsq on the web < 1423337485 245038 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1423337486 169540 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1423337492 161190 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all bullshit of course < 1423337512 821954 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Wct14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41863&oldid=41862 5* 03Mihip 5* (+495) 10/* Examples */ < 1423337528 501768 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.72.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How so? < 1423337554 925186 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's useless crap? < 1423337646 555453 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423337740 712240 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.72.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, my view of it is of course narrowed by the code golfing. BUt I've used Burlesque for other stuff occasionally. < 1423337794 419806 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.72.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Counting substring, getting all permutations of a list. Was a lot quicker to just fire uup the shell. < 1423337809 667400 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1423337817 485707 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I created it for :) < 1423337832 184589 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for my studies < 1423337833 37116 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.72.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people use J for serious reason, I thought. Why not your baby too? < 1423337844 372762 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because my baby is fuckingly slow :) < 1423337867 788608 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.72.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, just lazy... wait. < 1423337881 173162 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.72.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should make it quicker. < 1423338149 871538 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Wct14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41864&oldid=41863 5* 03Mihip 5* (-31) 10 < 1423338360 930213 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1423339015 404656 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1423339044 17749 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :J has a built-in verb for getting the nth permutation < 1423339103 33603 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are now two York programming meetup groups both meeting on the last Thursday of the month at 7PM... < 1423339159 357710 :chaosagent!~quassel@c-98-210-97-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423339527 668083 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a schism! < 1423339790 658232 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, they have no overlap < 1423339796 953974 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :One's for Haskell and one's for JavaScript < 1423339887 687573 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1423339977 729707 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but then there's gonna be a third group about Scala and they'll all want to go < 1423340036 214267 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, JavaScript and Scala have very little in common at all < 1423340041 845106 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may be getting mixed up with Java < 1423340048 548586 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1423340070 780149 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, if Elm takes off... < 1423340077 5340 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although you can compile Scala to JabaScript. < 1423340081 826129 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Quit: Hug~♪ < 1423340102 201757 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1423340107 986671 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane, you can also compile Haskell to JavaScript < 1423340126 137627 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Yup. Really, you can compile damn near anything to JavaScript these days. < 1423340138 126399 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks to asm.js and Emscripten anyway ... < 1423340153 466794 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can even compile Node to JavaScript! < 1423340193 858437 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1423340386 606460 :Lilax!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423340404 881478 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should've standardized a VM for Browsers rather than Javascript < 1423340431 642645 :Lilax!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make like a book an livre < 1423341157 127780 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think better would be they don't need a script < 1423341228 75635 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the fuck do you delete pictures on facebook? < 1423341259 466201 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah there < 1423341260 161047 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.72.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befriend Mark, and ask him nicely. < 1423341267 881333 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.72.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or that. < 1423341276 23829 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.72.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though they're never really gone. < 1423341306 549505 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also use JavaScript programs with Synchronet as server-side scripts for HTTP or as door programs for telnet access < 1423341334 70693 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Synchronet can also use DOS programs and native programs as door programs too) < 1423341394 833173 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course XULrunner stuff is also all in JavaScripts. < 1423341521 41680 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like to combine mahjong and other games with Magic: the Gathering? < 1423341591 418980 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1423341713 365340 :Lilax!~Eolus@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1423342105 424059 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-73-18-212-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1423342290 819001 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not write the browser itself in javascript < 1423342306 885728 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you could, although it might be slow < 1423342350 273853 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would still need to make the graphics libraries and so on accessible to JavaScripts though < 1423342408 653201 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1423342414 781821 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :just make them part of ECMA Standard < 1423342418 70840 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I think Vivaldi is doing the UI in HTML/CSS/JS. < 1423342457 843219 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mozilla has the HTML and CSS implementations in C++ but all of the menus and stuff of the browser are implemented in JavaScript. < 1423342458 980138 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's Breach, which is in fact written in pure JS. http://breach.cc/ < 1423342490 122458 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though I guess technically it's still on top of the Chromium engine by way of node.js) < 1423343765 836059 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :All official world cards in Magic: the Gathering are global enchantments, but I also want to make up a world creature, a world land, and a world Aura < 1423344324 496249 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kjugobe's Psychic Control {5UU} Enchantment - Aura :: Enchant spell :: Enchanted spell gains split second. :: You control enchanted spell's controller. :: Flash, Ripple 2 < 1423344393 435953 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1423345001 594506 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1423345039 899790 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always forget about the ternary operator. < 1423345612 677756 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423345885 496996 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1423346123 219482 :^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423346199 314352 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1423346795 390258 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.189.72.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1423347689 274974 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It says “I like to move the behavior of unsophisticated young engineers by making this job seem fun by buying 20 cent cans of soda, saving myself tens of thousands in compensation while simultaneously encouraging them to ruin their health.” And I like soda.) < 1423347690 853064 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kalzumeus.com/2011/10/28/dont-call-yourself-a-programmer/ < 1423348035 478759 :Qfwfq!~WashIrvin@unaffiliated/washirving PART :#esoteric < 1423348498 567859 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1423348683 591693 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what I should think about the fact that so many of my Codewars solutions are uniques ... < 1423349182 152086 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1423349185 332889 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal NICK :Vorpal < 1423349239 17101 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not often when you select a new package in aptitude and see that it will download over 360 MB... Got it down to 127 MB by removing some recommended dependencies I didn't really need. Still massive. < 1423349251 587832 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1423349369 463569 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-111.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1423349407 474536 :chaosagent_!~quassel@c-98-210-97-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423349433 3821 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~KingOfKar@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423349433 173664 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nqolithfmhoxdceg QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423349433 422650 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xolaskxgnxqdoogz QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423349433 593436 :chaosagent!~quassel@c-98-210-97-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423349476 165330 :incomprehensibly!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dtqnacotoazodhrk JOIN :#esoteric < 1423349491 171091 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1423349564 357509 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~KingOfKar@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe JOIN :#esoteric < 1423349667 237211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1423349679 703259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking snowstorm < 1423349683 938313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1423349684 723015 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 072220Z 33018KT 9999 VCSH SCT002 BKN015 M03/M04 Q1012 RMK WIND 670FT 33031G42KT < 1423349831 179684 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zcmeleaadtjsblpe JOIN :#esoteric < 1423349920 610451 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-04-1096704252.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1423349962 627882 :chaosagent_!~quassel@c-98-210-97-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net NICK :chaosagent < 1423350011 45992 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1423350043 546538 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1423350478 423110 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.89.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423350577 951308 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think this is correct way to make IRC bot (dealing with buffering and whatever else is necessary)? http://sprunge.us/fSeb < 1423351380 903250 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1423351404 496393 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1423351417 710203 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-zoksmmpmnmxpfspp QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1423351654 929981 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1423351851 500519 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-tzpzhklxmpwgprhv JOIN :#esoteric < 1423352371 73734 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm a popup saying std::bad_alloc when opening a program is a bit worrying, even though it appears to be working correctly otherwise... < 1423352409 287036 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a big city. < 1423352415 870203 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm scrolled up. < 1423352466 185859 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude, heh? < 1423352503 132875 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woo! 6to5 just got TCO: https://github.com/6to5/6to5/pull/714 < 1423353138 262579 :^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:50d3:dc3f:9f09:d861 JOIN :#esoteric < 1423353193 307193 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1423353247 243208 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric