< 1425513841 852380 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just too big < 1425513849 679398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i don't know) < 1425513875 42600 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the file size is correct < 1425513926 583662 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1425514336 78289 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct but big? < 1425514525 762001 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The file size is correct, but the contents of the file are all zero, rather than the correct contents < 1425514601 815254 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1425514641 977779 :Fleur!~Fleur@unaffiliated/fleur QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1425515360 145235 :_1_thethreeRs2!~WhatsChat@cpc17-colc6-2-0-cust482.7-4.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425515398 511776 :_1_thethreeRs2!~WhatsChat@cpc17-colc6-2-0-cust482.7-4.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :l.p. < 1425515767 81007 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1425515955 4634 :_1_thethreeRs2!~WhatsChat@cpc17-colc6-2-0-cust482.7-4.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1425516114 428440 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1425516291 990470 :OriginalOldMan!4c79b164@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.121.177.100 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1425518229 419219 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1425518855 975676 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1425518856 182024 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1425519222 174354 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why can't they build computer, so that it has a Forth environment built-in to the BIOS ROM? I have seen one that has a CD player software built-in, and a few others, but none of that is very good? < 1425519304 826395 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: modern computers use UEFI rather than BIOS, and the UEFI is user-customizable (although you have to turn secure boot off) < 1425519346 641925 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't really like that; it is a PC then it should have a PC BIOS. < 1425519367 188022 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But regardless, even if user-customizable then maybe you can't use it without a disk? < 1425519380 201306 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put a Forth built-in so that you can use it even without a disk. < 1425519423 884838 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425519463 357680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, the UEFI is stored on a disk partition < 1425519569 219273 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's why you need a PC BIOS with Forth interpreter < 1425519656 358513 :^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:b4bf:6db3:ebcc:81b6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1425519684 247447 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could still have UEFI but you can start BIOS at first so that it can work without a disk. < 1425520539 85653 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1425520729 193933 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425520817 124281 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Once upon a time they *did* make such computers. < 1425520821 759428 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :OpenFirmware. < 1425520829 695723 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, old school macs. < 1425521303 993175 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some old computer also had BASIC built-in to the BIOS ROM < 1425521382 801021 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may be good to put Forth though < 1425521401 153460 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think they ought to do with the new computer too! < 1425521779 188923 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg JOIN :#esoteric < 1425521806 329667 :kcm1700_!~kcm1700@175.117.8.72 JOIN :#esoteric < 1425522083 400928 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1425522084 218962 :kcm1700!~kcm1700@175.117.8.72 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1425522626 885700 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1425523005 642315 :skj3gg!~skj3gg@unaffiliated/skj3gg QUIT :Quit: ZZZzzz… < 1425523289 952696 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: INTRODUCED CHICKEN < 1425524298 476975 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1425524491 313399 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would you think? < 1425526158 991984 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425526446 403885 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would think it's time to play games < 1425526669 823893 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What game do you want? Chess game? Pokemon card game? Dungeons&Dragons game? < 1425527226 883760 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dygsgwwnxkjnxpgi JOIN :#esoteric < 1425527365 484284 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425528859 341632 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1425529168 617071 :not^v!~notnot^v@2601:4:680:104c:9c45:ebfb:39fd:c8b9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1425530270 469253 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why doesnt rpi have BASIC in its rom? < 1425530298 891740 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it have in its ROM? < 1425530504 214906 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :asdjfjasdfhlakjfhlakjsfkldfkldhlaksjdfhklasjdhfjakdfasdf < 1425530510 255460 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am beginning to hate JanusVR < 1425530640 515916 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1425530664 177027 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: Do you even know these answer? < 1425530937 817035 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see if I fixed this puzzle yet http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/magic_card/puzzle.2 < 1425530999 972189 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1425531193 112446 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1425531292 640039 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1425531356 304295 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1425531981 387202 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It has some code to load a firmware blob from the SD card. < 1425531984 747587 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's... about it. < 1425532176 329851 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Putting a Forth interpreter into the ROM too would make it to work even if you do not have a SD card, or if the data got deleted, or whatever < 1425532205 82921 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably it would also make it faster, because Linux is slow < 1425532242 578161 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd certainly be nice to have a guaranteed Forth environment, sure. < 1425532539 894434 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-58-35.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I am concerned they ought to do that to other computers too, whether it is PC, or games console, or DVD player, or whatever, as long as it is possible to put keyboard < 1425532618 667189 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. It's convenient having a guaranteed bootable environment in early ROM. < 1425535933 697385 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it's publically ok to talk about security holes in JanusVR < 1425536142 526258 :not^v!~notnot^v@2601:4:680:104c:9c45:ebfb:39fd:c8b9 QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/Akc6r.gif