< 1426032207 0 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-67-232-56-116.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426032233 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome vodkode < 1426032235 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13vodkode: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07irc.dal.net.) < 1426032272 0 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-67-232-56-116.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heya oerjan how are ya? < 1426032326 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426032386 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do not have clearance for that information citizen < 1426032441 0 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All glory to the glow cloud! < 1426032464 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426032637 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1426034316 0 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426034915 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ProofTechnique: cannot wait for apr 4 < 1426034925 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what's your opinion of danny elfman < 1426034974 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is danny elfman < 1426035077 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i googled, still no opinion < 1426035098 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1426035291 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426036574 0 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I'm jealous. < 1426036857 0 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1426037382 0 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1426037669 0 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-67-232-56-116.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1426037782 0 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-67-232-56-116.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426039330 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1426039362 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426039612 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1426040217 0 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1426040402 0 :MoALTz__!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426040566 0 :MoALTz_!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1426040678 0 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426041214 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1426041542 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426043839 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1426044517 0 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1426044640 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426044922 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1426045097 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1426045384 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Zleep zoon < 1426047472 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426047762 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1426050600 0 :vodkode!?@? 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NICK :f|`-`|f < 1426054707 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@50.250.208.214 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1426054793 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426055072 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1426055108 0 :^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:ad66:ebce:523:60f3 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1426055131 0 :^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:ad66:ebce:523:60f3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426055504 0 :Patashu_!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1426056365 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1426058345 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426058606 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1426059165 0 :kapil___!uid36151@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-paaxkrbpdrmkcqcl JOIN :#esoteric < 1426061309 0 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1426062069 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426063988 0 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1426064001 0 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1426064334 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist (977) < 1426064342 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist (977): shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti < 1426064877 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426064944 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fish14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42110&oldid=38399 5* 0377.88.93.100 5* (+231) 10/* Interpreters */ < 1426065153 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1426065268 0 :Mackan90096!~Mackan900@unaffiliated/mackan90096 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426065423 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-33-115.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1426065462 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-33-115.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1426065462 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1426065579 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1426065667 0 :sebbu2!?@? NICK :sebbu < 1426065848 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: HYGROTROPIC CHICKEN < 1426065938 0 :Mackledoge!~Mackan900@unaffiliated/mackan90096 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426066170 0 :Mackan90096!~Mackan900@unaffiliated/mackan90096 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1426066622 0 :Mackledoge!~Mackan900@unaffiliated/mackan90096 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1426066660 0 :Mackledoge!~Mackan900@unaffiliated/mackan90096 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426067691 0 :Mackledoge!~Mackan900@unaffiliated/mackan90096 QUIT :Read error: error:1408F119:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:decryption failed or bad record mac < 1426067751 0 :Mackledoge!~Mackan900@unaffiliated/mackan90096 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426067851 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426068132 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1426068754 0 :kapil___!uid36151@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-paaxkrbpdrmkcqcl QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1426070014 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/forget,_when_up_to_one%27s_neck_in_alligators,_that_the_mission_is_to_drain_the_swamp < 1426070117 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1426070468 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426072503 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426072626 0 :curtiii!~curtiii@213.143.61.155 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426072955 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :buenos dias! < 1426073402 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i have a dumb idea for a gui framework < 1426073637 0 :Mackledoge!~Mackan900@unaffiliated/mackan90096 QUIT :Read error: error:1408F119:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:decryption failed or bad record mac < 1426073667 0 :Mackledoge!~Mackan900@unaffiliated/mackan90096 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426074174 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: can't be much dumber than the ones that exist. < 1426074175 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what language? < 1426074175 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Racket, but possibly not directly, but rather as a major feature of my next language project. < 1426074176 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The gist is that the "view" is a function, which takes a model and returns the model, but the function's described with a declarative template syntax that describes both the UI elements, and the input/output elements of same. The function takes a struct/object and injects its values into the output fields as described in the template, and then returns a new struct with the values of the... < 1426074176 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :...input fields. < 1426074176 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you'd have (view (window (textbox FOO) (button BAR))), and you pass (view ...) a struct containing fields FOO and BAR, and the framework would draw a window and put the value of FOO into the text box, and if BAR gets clicked, when it returns that cycle, BAR will equal #t or whatever. < 1426074283 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1426074536 0 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what would be interesting? < 1426074536 0 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of esoteric languages, esoteric CPUs < 1426074538 0 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or more specifically, esoteric instruction sets < 1426074552 0 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which I guess in a way, does kind of fall under the category of language) < 1426074566 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bytepusher < 1426074724 0 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: what's that? < 1426074749 0 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, interesting < 1426074749 0 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's like CHIP-8] < 1426074780 0 :Mackledoge!~Mackan900@unaffiliated/mackan90096 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1426074902 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1426074927 0 :Mackledoge!~Mackan900@unaffiliated/mackan90096 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426075663 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426075844 0 :Mackledoge!~Mackan900@unaffiliated/mackan90096 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1426076545 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1426076991 0 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426077055 0 :Mackledoge!~Mackan900@unaffiliated/mackan90096 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426077392 0 :Mackledoge!~Mackan900@unaffiliated/mackan90096 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1426077487 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-16-21.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1426077565 0 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426078088 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the GPU-like one by ais523 < 1426078108 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, http://esolangs.org/wiki/Checkout < 1426078233 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be doing a topology module next year! < 1426078514 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So maybe I'll be able to figure out what a chu space actually is < 1426078517 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? chu space < 1426078519 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Chu space is just a matrix. Taneb invented them, then Chu stole his invention. < 1426078527 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, apparently it's just a matrix < 1426078788 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd think you would know < 1426078831 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chu also stole my memory of it < 1426078836 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a lot of the precursors to it < 1426078890 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1426078910 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had to relearn all of group theory in the past three years < 1426078911 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1426078997 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1426079203 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PART #esoteric :"RECURRING CHICKEN" < 1426079203 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1426079342 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1426079551 0 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1426079568 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1426080063 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnordbot, how are you doing? < 1426080064 0 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: in the dead of myxomatosis, if it's all the same to you," he added, " i'll have you hung, huge, heavy, steady in the sky a huge green catalogue to keep us out!" " what the hell am, brain the size of a planet and they ask me to take you to the bridge at that, i can tell. ford was running after him very fast? " very pretty," he shouted to the guard, " not really. " we had a look at this," said slartibartfast, " that was on < 1426080079 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I predict a fungot on Saturday. < 1426080143 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, myxomatosis < 1426080159 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody ban curtiii please. < 1426080166 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :elliott < 1426080168 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric :curtiii < 1426080169 0 :curtiii!~curtiii@213.143.61.155 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426080174 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :*!*curtiii@* < 1426080178 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't I ban something like that recently < 1426080180 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric :curtiii < 1426080182 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -o :elliott < 1426080197 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1426080530 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426080544 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoever greps the log for the last one like that and tells me the commonality < 1426080581 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, they query-spammed in #dolphin-emu a few hours ago as well < 1426080623 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015-03-03 22:07:53 <-- elliott has kicked crinzesi (crinzesi) < 1426080627 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably that guy < 1426080669 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :2015-01-03 01:10:31 <-- elliott has kicked corsee (corsee) < 1426080671 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that < 1426080721 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1426080727 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/ESOSC is back online < 1426080769 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn webserver isn't setting charset=utf-8 though. < 1426080819 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://esosc.mroman.ch also works) < 1426080842 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: but what were the hostmasks :( < 1426080862 0 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1426080927 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1426080959 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ESOSC14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42111&oldid=42082 5* 03160.85.232.191 5* (+113) 10* ESOSC back in da buzinezz

 < 1426081002 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1426081018 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::crinzesi!~crinzesi@213.143.60.205 JOIN #esoteri :corsee!~corsee@90.174.3.1 JOIN #esoteric ... < 1426081024 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :codu is abset? < 1426081037 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay well let's just ban everyone with names starting with c < 1426081037 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo < 1426081114 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1426081143 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1426081149 0 :nycs!?@? NICK :`^_^v < 1426081224 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two addresses assigned to France Telecom Spain (cprinzesi, curtiii), an IP belonging to ZHAW (http://www.zhaw.ch/), and no obvious link; could be a botnet. < 1426081289 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were they spamming again? I've forgotten already < 1426081320 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03EnumCZ 5* 10New user account < 1426081719 0 :Mackledoge!~Mackan900@unaffiliated/mackan90096 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426081903 0 :arjanb!8259ab15@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.89.171.21 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426082035 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1426082099 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426082143 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i agree. especially clog. that guy steams me up. < 1426082198 0 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1426082357 0 :vodkode-away!~vodkode@fl-67-232-56-116.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : nnnnnnnnnnnnnn] < 1426082365 0 :vodkode-away!?@? NICK :vodkode < 1426082367 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1426082494 0 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-zghzamwhrlccjkjk QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1426082507 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://esosc.mroman.ch/ESOSC-2014-D3-R1.TXT < 1426082512 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-zcfrtkycpqvtulhd JOIN :#esoteric < 1426082580 0 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the limit to just latin letters? < 1426082611 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, the grammar seems to have no "This is what the format is" thingy < 1426082637 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Initial variable, I think that's the word < 1426082640 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, what nortti said < 1426082645 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: wouldn't that be ESOSC-2015-D3-R1? < 1426082649 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1426082650 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIGHT! < 1426082654 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 2015 already < 1426082656 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1426082667 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it started in 2014 :) < 1426082669 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I think shorthand variables should generally be separated by spaces when ambiguity can occur < 1426082690 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although that isn't a problem in this version < 1426082697 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean for variables with two or more letters? < 1426082705 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1426082781 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1426082792 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally you'd say that two letters requires spaces? < 1426082843 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1426082872 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda = L, variable, ".", term; that'd be non-abbreviated < 1426082926 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't distinguish \xy as \"xy" from abbreviated \"x".\"y". then < 1426082927 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which sucks < 1426082954 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could require multi letter variables to start with a special character < 1426083019 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like _ or ' or whatever < 1426083036 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then \_xy_zc is without ambuigity \_xy.\_zc < 1426083086 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's ugly :\ < 1426083106 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1426083109 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can't parse it otherwise < 1426083114 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think mandating \x y z. is fine < 1426083122 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do that, yeah < 1426083125 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can't write \xyz < 1426083129 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1426083150 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's a good trade-off :) < 1426083156 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft who needs multiletter variables? just allow all of unicode as variable names! < 1426083198 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gqvucqidynpxjtcl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1426083227 0 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ejfaxffomcfveuvl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1426083256 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1426083256 0 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1426083285 0 :nyuszika7h!nyuszika7h@cadoth.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1426083304 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iverson would be happy < 1426083342 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1426083345 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b JOIN :#esoteric < 1426083351 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ;; < 1426083352 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+037E GREEK QUESTION MARK] [U+003B SEMICOLON] < 1426083380 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/ESOSC/ESOSC-2014-D3-R2.TXT < 1426083390 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode oоpр < 1426083391 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+006F LATIN SMALL LETTER O] [U+043E CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER O] [U+0070 LATIN SMALL LETTER P] [U+0440 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER ER] < 1426083421 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I'm actually really happy with programming languages that are restricted to ASCII. < 1426083432 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1426083459 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode СССР < 1426083460 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0421 CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER ES] [U+0421 CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER ES] [U+0421 CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER ES] [U+0420 CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER ER] < 1426083595 0 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: how about whitespace? maybe just declare that you can use additional whitespace between elements? < 1426083596 0 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sgdclvexxgwmndlv JOIN :#esoteric < 1426083706 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Ah. Good point. < 1426083715 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how you embed that into EBNF < 1426083723 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :except like saying "additional whitespaces are ignored" < 1426083740 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: ' ' | epsilon < 1426083762 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1426083764 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1426083766 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :' ' | '' < 1426083770 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in ascii < 1426083784 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but < 1426083787 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :L, variable < 1426083791 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no space allowed in there < 1426083795 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to do uhm < 1426083799 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :L, {spaces}, variable < 1426083834 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :L, {spaces}, variable, {spaces}, ".", {spaces} < 1426083838 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be precise < 1426083850 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hm < 1426083856 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :allow spaces after L < 1426083862 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :L = "\" , {spaces} < 1426083899 0 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder JOIN :#esoteric < 1426083986 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/ESOSC/ESOSC-2014-D3-R2.TXT <- like that? @nortti < 1426084031 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-limbidlqhfgejzpj JOIN :#esoteric < 1426084090 0 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that disallows ( foo ) < 1426084124 0 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe add additional { spaces }, to the beginning of term? < 1426084137 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. yep < 1426084285 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(updated http://mroman.ch/ESOSC/ESOSC-2014-D3-R2.TXT) < 1426084288 0 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1426084301 0 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, where am I to start reading the grammar specification? at term? < 1426084303 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's a ; missing after variable, too.) < 1426084303 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does ? thing ? mean the same as thing | ''? < 1426084331 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISO/IEC 14977 says ? ? is a special sequence < 1426084338 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :with human readable stuff afaik < 1426084339 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1426084346 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :? those weird looking letters ? < 1426084350 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1426084371 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :? all digits ? < 1426084372 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is {} then? < 1426084378 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ } is optional repetition < 1426084413 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so { thing } means the same as thing = things | ''? < 1426084418 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather < 1426084423 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ thing } is zero or more times a thing. < 1426084427 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing = thing things | '' < 1426084453 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's what it would me < 1426084454 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :an < 1426084534 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable = .. { spaces } is stupid though < 1426084541 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :spaces aren't part of the variable actually < 1426084552 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd also conflict with { variable, " " }, < 1426084604 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fixed* < 1426084647 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://mroman.ch/ESOSC/ESOSC-2014-D3-R2.TXT) < 1426084696 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426084742 0 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no whitespace permitted in the "\x."? I see < 1426084751 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1426084755 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\x ." is illegal, yes < 1426084764 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\ x." is legal < 1426084796 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: hm < 1426084799 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :L, { variable, " " }, variable, ".", term, { spaces }; < 1426084801 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :changing that too < 1426084812 0 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, isn't the { spaces } in the end of lambda a bit redundant? it can only end in term, which ends in { spaces } < 1426084812 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :L, { variable, " " }, [ variable ], ".", term, { spaces }; should fix that however? < 1426084847 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: true < 1426084849 0 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :same with parens and application < 1426084971 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/ESOSC/ESOSC-2014-D3-R3.TXT <- like that < 1426084977 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would allow "\x ." < 1426085038 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1426085040 0 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup, that seems good < 1426085055 0 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, why [ variable ] ? < 1426085060 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1426085074 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want "\x y." to be legal < 1426085099 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which wouldn't be legal only with { variable, " " } because then you'd be missing a space after "y" < 1426085108 0 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why [ ]? < 1426085118 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because this way it is optional < 1426085125 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus allowing "\x y ." < 1426085128 0 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, right < 1426085151 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(otherwise "\x y ." would be illegal because it expects another variable) < 1426085173 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1426085179 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :this way L, { spaces }, variable , ".", term; is actually redundant < 1426085192 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. nope < 1426085202 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise "\." would be legal :D < 1426085225 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1426085233 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you'd want at least one variable, " " < 1426085374 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ variable, " " } [variable] is both zero or more < 1426085437 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but (variable, " ") wouldn't allow "\x ." again :( < 1426085452 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426085454 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1426085456 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it would < 1426085457 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1426085476 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/ESOSC/ESOSC-2014-D3-R4.TXT <- ok, that should fix that zero variables < 1426085540 0 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about replacing " " with a space in general? < 1426085556 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just thinking about that too :D < 1426085576 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :" " could be replaced with { space } < 1426085586 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it would allow even stuff like "\x y z" < 1426085671 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :k. updated R4 again. < 1426085686 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-16-21.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1426085688 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :L, { space }, (variable, { space }), { variable, { space } }, < 1426085790 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1426085915 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: "this is what the format is"? < 1426085924 0 :Mackledoge!~Mackan900@unaffiliated/mackan90096 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1426086133 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426086417 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1426086437 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426086487 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, a canonical top grammar thing < 1426086491 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :LambdaExpression := ... < 1426086504 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42112&oldid=41856 5* 03160.85.232.191 5* (+81) 10/* External resources */ adding ESOSC link. < 1426086518 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that's "term"? < 1426086559 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1426086563 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a suggested wording? < 1426086572 0 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what happened to ESOSC brainfuck? < 1426086586 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: I think it died due to no consent could be reached? < 1426086588 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, make that clear < 1426086622 0 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok. a bit confusing that it seems to have been skipped in numbering < 1426086646 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1426086646 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1426086674 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda calculus syntax was D5 < 1426086674 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1426086679 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I should keep it D5 < 1426086682 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of D3 < 1426086690 0 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was D4? < 1426086700 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :file extensions :) < 1426086702 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426086827 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://mroman.ch/ESOSC/ESOSC-2014-D5-R5.TXT <- like that < 1426086832 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or again: Suggested wording :D? < 1426086848 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, that's good < 1426087196 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426087414 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1426087462 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1426087705 0 :Fleur!~Fleur@unaffiliated/fleur JOIN :#esoteric < 1426087917 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426088716 0 :FleurRose!~Fleur@unaffiliated/fleur JOIN :#esoteric < 1426088851 0 :Fleur!~Fleur@unaffiliated/fleur QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1426088863 0 :Tritonio_!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1426089030 0 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1426089201 0 :Tritonio_!?@? NICK :Tritonio < 1426089467 0 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1426089817 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :re < 1426089859 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :'aight. Then I guess it goes into waiting for approval state @ nortti Taneb < 1426089969 0 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I approve < 1426091159 0 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426091324 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1426091732 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, I also approve < 1426091769 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426091905 0 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1426092994 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426093198 0 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426093402 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1426093606 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1426093931 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes A5 then < 1426094137 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, \x . y is illegal? < 1426094180 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and do you want printable letters or characters in variable names?) < 1426094198 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1426094214 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally I'd worry about associativity, since a b c can be parsed in two ways (though everybody knows which one is the "right" one) < 1426094332 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't this be simpler for "lambda"? lambda = L, { space }, { variable, { space } }, variable, { space }, ".", term < 1426094641 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426094782 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426094866 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1426094908 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426094919 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1426094919 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: no. term has a leading { space } < 1426094951 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was worried about the space before the . < 1426094968 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426094978 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that's legal. < 1426094981 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see now that this is allowed; I fail to see the purpose of the [ variable ] < 1426094995 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :In any case the productions look unnecessarily complicated. < 1426095033 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for lambda) < 1426095051 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1426095076 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426095119 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :L, { space }, { variable, { space } }, variable, { space }, ".", term; should indeed work < 1426095125 0 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is more concise you're right. < 1426095179 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1426095231 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1426095434 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would probably end up with something like http://sprunge.us/SIfJ < 1426095460 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mainly did that as an exercise for myself.) < 1426095691 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426095908 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1426095962 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1426096073 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, writing parsers without tokenization is so tedious. Now "abc" can be up to three variables... < 1426096092 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/parsers/grammars/ < 1426096350 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426096410 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426096413 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426096459 0 :Sgeo__!~quassel@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426096466 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426096561 0 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1426096654 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1426096685 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1426096712 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1426097593 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426097857 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1426097917 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426098142 0 :Sgeo__!~quassel@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1426099954 0 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426100157 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1426100423 0 :FleurRose!?@? NICK :Fleur < 1426101454 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calling back to yesterday's discussion about the "single USB-C port only in MacBook Whateveritwas", apparently we just released an updated version of the "Pixel" Chromebook, and it has... a USB-C port both for charging and peripherals. (Except it's got two of those, and two regular USB 3 type-B ports. Also I think it's not quite as crazy-expensive as the old Pixel, even if it's still quite so.) < 1426101554 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not so happy about USB type-C ports in general, but I guess if it turns out all new laptops will use it for charging (instead of having custom charger ports) that's a win? < 1426101609 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-- universal charger[3] make it easy to take Pixel anywhere --" "[3] Charger only works with USB Type-C devices." nice footnote. < 1426101617 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And/or nice definition of "universal". < 1426101674 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also I meant type A ports instead of type B in the above. I keep mixing those up.) < 1426101755 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, another USB connector?! < 1426101788 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(old news apparently but I haven't been paying attention) < 1426101796 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes... but standardized chargers! < 1426101840 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, another USB connector. :/ < 1426102043 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the standard type C size is pretty small (not too much larger than micro-B), so maybe they won't make mini-C and micro-C next. (Yeah, right.) < 1426102382 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426102513 0 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1426102546 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426102642 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 24 pins, crazy. < 1426102742 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1426102814 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1426103243 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426103305 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426103359 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426103465 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ᵤ < 1426103480 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+1D64 LATIN SUBSCRIPT SMALL LETTER U] < 1426103525 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1426103536 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426103577 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1426103617 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426103660 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1426103812 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1426104335 0 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1426104415 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426104694 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1426104827 0 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1426106162 0 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426106433 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426106468 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Those are some pretty small pins. < 1426106473 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Must be expensive to make, too. < 1426106515 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, that was just pure guesswork, I don't know anything about making hardware. Maybe it's not.) < 1426106602 0 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426106667 0 :Fleur!~Fleur@unaffiliated/fleur QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1426106817 0 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1426106918 0 :Fleur!~Fleur@unaffiliated/fleur JOIN :#esoteric < 1426107735 0 :arjanb!8259ab15@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.89.171.21 QUIT :Quit: zzz < 1426107865 0 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1426108264 0 :Fleur!~Fleur@unaffiliated/fleur QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1426108549 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1426109717 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-26.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1426109758 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-26.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1426109758 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1426109806 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1426110159 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426110271 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'm an idiot. my monitor was glitching up, and i tried to screenshot it < 1426110297 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously the computer has no idea about glitches in the monitor < 1426110306 0 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1426110437 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well at least it proves the error isn't somewhere earlier < 1426110555 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true. clearly the error is between the display memory and the LCD panel < 1426110621 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I should have known that, given that I have been solving the glitches by punching the back of the screen < 1426110726 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should make a laptop with a webcam that points at the screen < 1426110802 0 :naturalog!~naturalog@5.28.189.1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1426110895 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe just a portable reflective surface you can hold in your hands. < 1426110911 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that's crazy talk < 1426110939 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloren. fizziello. hellørjan. < 1426110946 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoily. < 1426110947 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: what do you glitches look like? < 1426110949 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hb < 1426110953 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hø. < 1426111092 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like the screen freezing and then slowly turning white until I hit it < 1426111143 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :bohily < 1426111167 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426111173 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FirelloFly! < 1426111184 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: ŏ_Ô? < 1426111208 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-limbidlqhfgejzpj QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1426111249 0 :naturalog!~naturalog@185.13.194.215 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426111688 0 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1426111783 0 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426112005 0 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426113075 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode MINUS SIGN < 1426113081 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​− < 1426113086 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1426113138 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ― < 1426113150 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2015 HORIZONTAL BAR] < 1426113151 0 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1426113245 0 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426113976 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode - < 1426113986 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+002D HYPHEN-MINUS] < 1426113993 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF < 1426114052 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ー一~ < 1426114053 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+30FC KATAKANA-HIRAGANA PROLONGED SOUND MARK] [U+4E00 CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-4E00] [U+FF5E FULLWIDTH TILDE] < 1426114170 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that last one is a tilde < 1426114172 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a horizontal line < 1426114192 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode - < 1426114193 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+FF0D FULLWIDTH HYPHEN-MINUS] < 1426114204 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's better < 1426114220 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF < 1426114281 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric : [U+FFUU FULLWIDTH WHAT-THE-FUCK] < 1426114310 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode 'EN DASH' 'EM DASH' # I'm missing a compose key < 1426114313 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​–— < 1426114370 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The difference between e{n,m} dashes is pretty subtle (if it even exists) on this particular monospace font. < 1426114386 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe that makes sense, given the names. < 1426114400 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ern dash < 1426114417 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with a sufficiently miniscule keming) < 1426114419 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :On my terminal settings the em dash overlies the next charcter < 1426114435 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very clear in this proportional one < 1426114442 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in a monospace font, 'm' and 'n' have the same width < 1426114450 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd expect em and en dashes to have the same width, too < 1426114466 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that was the "makes sense" part. < 1426114478 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a lot of the characters are being taken from some other font who < 1426114493 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is porposional < 1426114526 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck speling < 1426114550 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1426114572 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. This font only supports characters from Shift-JIS < 1426114717 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my apartment just vibrated, with a dull sound of somebody having tripped... < 1426114965 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :porpoisonal sound fonts < 1426115002 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is someone living upstairs twh < 1426115025 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting fact: shift-jis has twelve characters whose origins and meanings are entirely unknown:墸壥妛彁挧暃椢槞蟐袮閠駲 < 1426115051 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :These later made it into unicode < 1426115075 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, 彁 is the only character with completely unknown origin < 1426115089 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: they're a magical incantation that causes cthulhu to trip 5 minutes in the past hth < 1426115091 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :others have partial infos about them available < 1426115142 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they have a meaning? < 1426115230 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly transcription error. < 1426115252 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that makes sense < 1426115264 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :彁 is unique because there is no clue about the origin of error (or if any, plausible origin) < 1426115284 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JIS_X_0208#Kanji_from_unknown_sources < 1426115329 0 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1426115455 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, do those kanji have any actual pronunciation? < 1426115462 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: there aren't nobody upstairs. and as far as I know, there is no upstairs. < 1426115473 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing no, because IIRC you cant pronounce a kanji just from its shape < 1426115493 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure some demented entomologist'll come with a meaning for 蟐 someday. < 1426115494 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: in fact, to some degress, you can. < 1426115507 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kanjitisiki.com/yuureimozi/ Some have pronounciations listed on this website < 1426115514 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats boily -----### < 1426115521 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hi hi ^^ < 1426115529 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: heh < 1426115530 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most kanjis (or hanjas or hanzis, anyway) are phono-semantic compounds and their sounds can be inferred from a part of the character < 1426115539 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. I tried to find a lounge with a VW bus in it, but only found a Star Trek corridor, a ball pit, and a pile of rooms named after Star Trek characters. I think I'm in the wrong building. < 1426115547 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah. "read the side" < 1426115586 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(when I say "most", I really mean about 90%) < 1426115668 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ask Taneb. he has experience being sci-filly mislead. < 1426115680 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw, what is the adverb for sci-fi?) < 1426115765 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure you can make arbitrary noun modifiers into adverbs < 1426115818 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1426115822 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :sci-fial? < 1426115844 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen SFnal used seriously, though that is of course a different abbreviation < 1426115856 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a dream where some asshole joined this channel and /msg'd me multiple times when I was asleep to tell him to take his side in arguments and enforce it with op powers < 1426115859 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :psa: don't be an asshole < 1426115904 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sci-fi -> science-fiction -> science-fictionally -> scifixily < 1426115945 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Found the bus. I was in fact in the wrong building. < 1426115950 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But SFnaly < 1426115956 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is shorter < 1426116094 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hasn't got to the part of the log with elliott's dreams in it yet < 1426116132 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie was in the wrong building. oren drives the bus. < 1426116147 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... it seems that while the On-yomi generally follow the "read the side" rule, the kun-yomi are all over the place. makes sense i guess since the kun-yomi are just japanese words assigned to a chinese character with a close meaning < 1426116174 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's completely arbitrary < 1426116182 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on'yomi are easier than their kunterparts. < 1426116190 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WWWWW < 1426116206 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WWWWWW is much easier to type than lololol < 1426116232 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure < 1426116239 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternating between two characters is often faster than spamming one < 1426116245 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lololololololololololololol < 1426116249 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww < 1426116252 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, the ws are more painful < 1426116253 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww < 1426116257 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: er, I just woke up and said that now. < 1426116269 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you forgot to capitalize the ws too < 1426116280 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: assume I have a caps lock key < 1426116290 0 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :People still have those? < 1426116298 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my caps lock key was remapped to Esc a long, long time ago. < 1426116307 0 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I hope you have a terrible sense of humor, or you will definitely get RSI. < 1426116310 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i am sorry, i am going to assume your dream was psychic until i've finished the logs hth < 1426116311 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, I don't "spam" W I hold it down < 1426116311 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, as a pianist expert I say lol is easier than www. < 1426116331 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: neophyte. plebeian. real men spam w. < 1426116345 0 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: You take your reasonableness elsewhere < 1426116349 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holding it down's limited by the keyboard repeat rate < 1426116356 0 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whippersnappers with their key repeat < 1426116362 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could increase the keyboard repeat rate just to spam nicovideo more easily < 1426116369 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my keyboard's repeat rate is sufficiently high that I have no problem spamming wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww < 1426116390 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :32iw < 1426116411 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good try. < 1426116416 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> repeat'w' < 1426116417 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘repeat'w'’ < 1426116421 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1426116432 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :saved by the syntax bell < 1426116435 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'w' looks like a face of some animal < 1426116445 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: when I "woke up" in the dream I was grouchy but vaguely satisfied by the thought that he's probably the one I should ban instead < 1426116452 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: it's a vampire bat hth < 1426116480 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ôwô) < 1426116494 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-008-196.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :>ω> < 1426116507 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :owl < 1426116520 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only word that's an emoticon of itself < 1426116529 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-008-196.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would have a v, would it not? < 1426116560 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this owl is from the czernobyl area hth < 1426116578 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL a chernobyl owl represents itself when written. < 1426116610 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"chernobyl owl" doesn't look like I imagine a chernobyl owl would look like, to me < 1426116660 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426116666 0 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chernobyl Owls are very important in representation theory < 1426116713 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :🐦 < 1426116762 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode doesn't appear to have an owl yet < 1426116782 0 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a travesty < 1426116877 0 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ) \___/ ( < 1426116877 0 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : { ( @)v(@ ) } < 1426116877 0 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : { | ~~~ | } < 1426116877 0 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : { / ^^^^ \ } < 1426116877 0 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :___`m – m`__ < 1426117058 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I can say 🔨 💻 💥 < 1426117064 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PRISMATIC CHICKEN < 1426117107 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 🔨 💻 💥 < 1426117115 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F528 HAMMER \ UTF-8: f0 9f 94 a8 UTF-16BE: d83ddd28 Decimal: 🔨 \ 🔨 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+0020 SPACE \ UTF-8: 20 UTF-16BE: 0020 Decimal: \ \ Category: Zs (Separator, Space) \ Bidi: WS (Whitespace) \ \ U+1F4BB PERSONAL COMPUTER \ UTF-8: f0 9f 92 bb UTF-16BE: d83ddcbb Decimal: &# < 1426117121 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pyjkdlbknazxrboh JOIN :#esoteric < 1426117127 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 💥 < 1426117134 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F4A5 COLLISION SYMBOL \ UTF-8: f0 9f 92 a5 UTF-16BE: d83ddca5 Decimal: 💥 \ 💥 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1426117230 0 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1426117267 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or I can tell a story: 👮 💴 👯 👇 👄 👅 < 1426117289 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1426117319 0 :L8D!~L8D@99-156-81-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426117444 0 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yikes < 1426117479 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea why "woman with bunny ears" is a legitimate unicode character < 1426117491 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think I just used it correctly < 1426117810 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nothing in the logs, i guess your dream must be precognitive then hth < 1426117851 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: emoticons most likely < 1426117882 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yikes < 1426117924 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :👨 💸 📉 💢 ; 👨 💴 👔 ,💥 📈 -- if only this were true < 1426117981 0 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stress out about losing money. Buy suit. Explosive growth? < 1426117995 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yah < 1426118076 0 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately wearing a suit has virtually no effect on how much money you make... < 1426118206 0 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though how much money you make can have an effect on how many suits you wear. Or how many suits you make, depending on what side of things you're one. < 1426118213 0 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*on < 1426118300 0 :Froo!~Frooxius@c-73-222-15-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric