< 1426464013 805914 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what that looping edge is supposed to indicate < 1426464029 476669 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's a vague "come from" joke. < 1426464035 115631 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I could be wrong. < 1426464057 75646 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, it's a possibility < 1426464075 639912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell seems stuck in 1990 < 1426464117 934744 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it didn't even have an arrow going off the right edge, like other "live" languages. < 1426464126 375183 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like PHP. < 1426464136 808329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and perl < 1426464145 368869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering about that. < 1426464174 189088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh that chart doesn't really go up to the haskell renessance < 1426464199 838967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ai < 1426464234 434616 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :J also goes nowhere. < 1426464241 455708 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rainessence. < 1426464257 259727 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the same with SQL, which certainly is still in use. < 1426464258 471130 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ocaml also stops abruptly. Lua, too. Dead ends like D carry on ... weird. < 1426464274 964972 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I still use SQL too < 1426464291 91513 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :MATLAB also exists as an individual node in there. So maybe it's not a very consistent chart. < 1426464300 977090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it's a zeerust diagram < 1426464336 703458 :chaosagent!~quassel@c-98-210-97-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426464346 751315 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google "zeerust diagram" < 1426464348 96914 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.abccrusher.com/articles/pemasok-pasir-dalam-nairobi.html < 1426464348 164986 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: pemasok pasir dalam nairobi - pemasok penghancur batu < 1426464379 25336 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let s = "pemasok pasir dalam nairobi" in concat $ transpose [s,' ':s,s] < 1426464380 225708 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "p pepememamasasosokok k p papasasisirir r d dadalalalamam m n nanaiairiroro... < 1426464400 553410 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The official semantics of the arrows is "head was influenced by tail", so possibly the "live" ones are those which the chartmaker thinks will still influence other languages in the future. < 1426464486 832958 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dark future, obviously < 1426464608 36490 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1426464608 88229 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1426464627 309908 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-84-223.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1426464671 853993 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def rreree bf ,.[.>,.<.>]. < 1426464671 854600 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1426464709 273360 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree to be or not to be < 1426464709 274034 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttoto o b bebe e o oror r n nonotot t t toto o b bebe < 1426464793 63457 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def rreree bf ,.[.>,.<.>] < 1426464793 64428 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1426464918 172203 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree My hovercraft is full of eels? < 1426464918 210256 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :MMyMy y h hohovoveverercrcrcrarafaftft t i isis s f fufulullll l o ofof f e eeeelelsls?s? < 1426464934 710011 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. wait wait wait wait wait. < 1426464964 824713 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hohovoveverercrcrcrarafaftft < 1426464978 845705 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree æđæe¶→đæߢ“♥ < 1426464979 52367 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ÃææĦđđÑææe¦eÂe¶¶â¶â†â†’†’ĒđđÑæææßߟ¢¢â¢â€â€œ€œâœâ™â™¥™¥ < 1426464997 231163 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUNGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT! >_< < 1426465004 263846 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: welcome back! < 1426465004 385542 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: when i go home, there'll be hardly any more effort spent on the fnord < 1426465011 708222 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def rreree bf ,.[.>>,[.<<.>>>]<]<. < 1426465011 710542 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1426465017 517342 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree re < 1426465017 518190 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :rreree < 1426465020 548096 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree meow < 1426465020 755886 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmemeoeowoww < 1426465021 709816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is out of the loop < 1426465025 167175 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree meow Hello! < 1426465025 508245 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmemeoeowow w H HeHelellllolo!o!! < 1426465038 400189 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there, now it repeats the last letter three times, too, just as it should < 1426465066 105749 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: eh? < 1426465081 330007 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree loopyloop < 1426465081 330698 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lloloooopopypylyloloooopopp < 1426465102 508637 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree < 1426465105 46951 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree a < 1426465105 371589 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaa < 1426465107 141022 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree ab < 1426465107 414885 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :aababb < 1426465111 477229 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree æ < 1426465111 722546 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ãææ¦ < 1426465116 940701 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree ææ < 1426465117 139168 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ãæææææ¦ < 1426465119 7809 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree æææ < 1426465119 268459 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ãææææææææ¦ < 1426465121 80593 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree æææ« < 1426465121 405191 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ãæææææææ榫«« < 1426465125 716981 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree æ«“ĸß < 1426465125 907211 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ãæ榫«â«â€â€œ€œÄœÄ¸Ä¸Ã¸ÃŸÃŸŸ < 1426465137 693204 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can see what sort of new unicode characters it can synthesise < 1426465143 963931 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree €€ < 1426465144 160034 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ââ‚€‚¬â¬â‚€‚¬¬ < 1426465145 913360 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree ۾ < 1426465146 147567 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ââ‚€‚¬Ã¬Ã¦Ã¦¦ < 1426465148 885734 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree €« < 1426465149 166651 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ââ‚€‚¬Â¬Â«Â«« < 1426465151 225541 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree €» < 1426465151 487621 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ââ‚€‚¬Â¬Â»Â»» < 1426465157 2648 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree ȣ < 1426465157 210663 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :»»»£££ < 1426465161 538534 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree »€ < 1426465161 832463 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :»»â»â‚€‚¬¬ < 1426465164 590112 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree »€æ < 1426465164 887960 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :»»â»â‚€‚¬Ã¬Ã¦Ã¦¦ < 1426465170 818111 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree “« < 1426465171 129388 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ââ€â€œ€œÂœÂ«Â«« < 1426465176 939 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree “«¢ < 1426465176 318634 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ââ€â€œ€œÂœÂ«Â«Â«Â¢Â¢¢ < 1426465179 368971 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree «¢ < 1426465179 582361 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :«««¢¢¢ < 1426465182 538658 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree ¢« < 1426465182 909652 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :¢¢¢««« < 1426465183 588745 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: you do know that fungot answer private messages, don't you? < 1426465183 952174 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i'ts not xs fault that x is getting modified in place. i'm sure in the end < 1426465186 684416 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1426465194 514646 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got carried away < 1426465213 652733 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And very well said, fungot < 1426465214 214151 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: or he could call a halting program an optimisation of the above :) could you write an interpreter and i need to < 1426465224 718168 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: re: eh? < 1426465282 778280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you've apparently just noticed fungot's return hth < 1426465282 968340 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: everyone does webprogramming in scheme then. as you might notice that i now have fnord/ views/ etc data structures < 1426465311 921111 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes. I kind of seriously brainlagged there. < 1426465318 806339 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: don't worry, I still love you. < 1426465319 63510 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you pass the cdr to the needed place, they're capable of? i bet i could implement a posn with a list... < 1426465353 696502 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def rreree bf ,..>,[.<.>.>,]<. < 1426465353 816676 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1426465389 906267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that's still not the original rule you gave < 1426465428 123130 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the original rule was flawed; the extra ' ' was a wart to make transpose work without too many hassles. < 1426465434 458550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1426465448 539761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree abcd < 1426465448 540415 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :aababcbcdcdd < 1426465495 180502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: but your new rule reverses the role of the previous and next character < 1426465527 468636 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let s = "abcd" in concat $ transpose [s,' ':s,s] < 1426465528 596614 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "a ababcbcdcdd" < 1426465543 694316 :chaosagent!~quassel@c-98-210-97-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Bye. < 1426465548 28268 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? if you drop the space, that's what you get. < 1426465556 553263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION confused
< 1426465606 505766 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree abc < 1426465606 506532 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : a ababcbcc < 1426465616 150303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i see, it's actually _ambiguous_ how to split it up < 1426465626 553854 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have bcbc in there < 1426465644 952484 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree abc < 1426465644 953619 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : a ababcbc c < 1426465659 446942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not given whether the first or the last letter should be left out < 1426465685 104297 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't follow. < 1426465698 786640 :arjanb!8259a906@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.89.169.6 QUIT :Quit: zzz < 1426465721 312086 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1426465733 950444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can analyze it either as a,bab,cbc,dcd,d or as aba,bcb,cdc,dd < 1426465741 458341 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my mind it's "links" shaped like a a a or b b b that are hooked together: a abab b etc. < 1426465846 363688 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case I like that brainfuck code, it's surprisingly short :) < 1426465851 783565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when you removed the "a ", it looked to me like you had changed from the former to the latter < 1426465867 477609 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I didn't, I only removed the space. < 1426465879 201872 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway. < 1426465892 651386 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree some regrets < 1426465892 652124 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssosomomeme e r reregegrgreretetstss < 1426465898 129680 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426466304 680764 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++. < 1426466304 718389 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1426466324 524352 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++++. < 1426466324 525584 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1426466507 25187 :Fleur!~Fleur@unaffiliated/fleur QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1426466602 526780 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def rerere bf ,.>,.<.>>,[.<.<.>>>,]<.<.>. < 1426466602 566256 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1426466616 92586 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rerere back to the roots < 1426466616 146690 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :babcabkca kct kot ott oht eht ehr eor oortoostosts < 1426466683 840319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rerere re < 1426466683 841037 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :rerere < 1426466692 399423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION finally got that
< 1426466710 337091 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's more or less the version before tswett's improvement) < 1426467082 321665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i wonder if whoever asked the adventurers to get the hand of aliam did so to indirectly free ranna. < 1426467147 772457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do suspect the succubi might want that, too < 1426467185 595631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i wonder if i've seen any drow missing a hand around... < 1426467262 703185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, excluding wolf, who may have lost one temporarily, or was that only glon... < 1426467345 379968 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Looking for an absurd outcome, I'm hoping that the hand ends up with Captain Fang. < 1426467387 206618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he and dewcup should meet up some time < 1426467419 845152 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tee hee < 1426467519 786334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless the concentration of chaos would destroy the universe. < 1426467787 896780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://yafgc.net/comic/0463-drow-ire/ both wolf and glon < 1426467916 384802 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :destroying the Universe sounds fun. < 1426467938 182043 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: INVERSE CHICKEN < 1426467960 867801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily escaped just as i was about to test whether he's a succubus. < 1426467978 802687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that succuba < 1426467991 502371 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rreree a succubus < 1426467991 505568 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :aa a s susucuccccucubububusus s < 1426468043 628858 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i'm thinking of incubus < 1426468508 277773 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1426469336 959068 :crisus!~crisus@213.143.51.38 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426469491 127842 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1426469676 251620 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My improvement? < 1426470437 163672 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1426470806 251195 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems that CODEGATE 2015 had a problem ("oemu") that the breakthrough requires writing a shell code in subleq < 1426471418 487446 :chaosagent!~quassel@c-98-210-97-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426471953 668575 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh somehow rebooting made chrome work again. okay! < 1426472307 341621 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1426474637 218546 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When will they make an inkjet printer that doesn't need its ink shaken < 1426474741 281282 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1426475216 260634 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that a problem anyway? most printers are fully capable of shaking their own ink < 1426475253 139561 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42134&oldid=42091 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+20) 10 < 1426477999 311259 :chaosagent!~quassel@c-98-210-97-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1426478477 243691 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia JOIN :#esoteric < 1426478629 602098 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1426478635 945957 :mitchs!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1426479088 446288 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well, the printer in question was printing entirely blank sheets, until I took out the ink, shook it, and put it back in < 1426479188 273318 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1426479191 887399 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :never had that problem < 1426479887 955850 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1426480365 158260 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426484247 223630 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1426485585 537631 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1426486935 398230 :fractal!~fractal@2607:fcd0:100:4300::3e34:746 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426488188 494963 :fractal!~fractal@2607:fcd0:100:4300::3e34:746 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1426488358 260188 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Argh < 1426488947 377028 :fractal!~fractal@2607:fcd0:100:4300::3e34:746 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426489556 865827 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426491111 837677 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1426491214 150084 :fractal!~fractal@2607:fcd0:100:4300::3e34:746 QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1426491224 787500 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Taktentus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42135&oldid=41986 5* 0380.53.184.190 5* (+32) 10!* -- < 1426491340 332045 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Taktentus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42136&oldid=42135 5* 0380.53.184.190 5* (-1) 10/* Syntax */ < 1426491720 581612 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Taktentus14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42137&oldid=42136 5* 0380.53.184.190 5* (+18) 10/* Examples */ < 1426491941 800902 :fractal!~fractal@2607:fcd0:100:4300::3e34:746 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426494547 982378 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1426494548 22716 :Patashu_!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1426495556 282998 :Patashu_!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1426495584 61139 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1426495707 414082 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a45f2f.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1426496567 31135 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1426496579 127012 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1426496889 182159 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/FMNSSun/ESOSC/blob/master/ESOSC-2014-D6.TXT fwiw < 1426496938 303957 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1426496938 342329 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1426496980 564017 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1426497364 716158 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1426497760 137769 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a45f2f.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1426497760 884505 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :uw. that should be https://github.com/FMNSSun/ESOSC/blob/master/ESOSC-2015-D6.TXT < 1426497764 477807 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1426498196 669530 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1426498601 526349 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426499829 587893 :MoALTz_!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426499852 996908 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1426499882 241252 :f|`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426499988 141221 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1426501143 219306 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426501899 703038 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1426502992 297017 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426504853 858556 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: DISSIDENT CHICKEN < 1426504926 962145 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1426504933 565661 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1426505410 231348 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1426508249 211281 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :>> viewQueue1 _ = error "Taneb's done something idiotic!" < 1426508250 471331 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42138&oldid=41980 5* 0393.157.13.3 5* (+13) 10 < 1426508250 574598 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1426508267 801525 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would somebody please ban crisus. < 1426508279 817156 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's spamming my query everytime I write something. < 1426508299 794112 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :In spanish though. So I don't understand everything. < 1426508305 367767 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, those are impossible to reach error conditions < 1426508313 508952 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I assume "solo hooy" means "only today" < 1426508315 824673 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is (or was? I may have removed one) three of them < 1426508335 646538 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's three of them. < 1426508421 696987 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:22:36 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- You are not authorized to (de)op elliott__ on #esoteric. < 1426508425 2982 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone else do it < 1426508430 734154 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fizzie < 1426508984 191724 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1426509247 933026 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1426509562 931646 :crisus!~crisus@213.143.51.38 QUIT :K-Lined < 1426509908 797182 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: Nickserv doesn't know you... < 1426509953 997692 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have too many __s < 1426510033 904562 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( So why do I now think that "size matters"? ) < 1426510044 183901 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426510711 652674 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426512494 126224 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:a16c:83db:7216:9763 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1426512520 366182 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:a16c:83db:7216:9763 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426512679 34802 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1426514022 48227 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1426514289 900662 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1426515467 509937 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1426516235 706975 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1426517157 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connection < 1426524329 638933 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4c6f4.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1426524441 507752 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1426525099 205363 :Tritonio!~tr@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:92e2:baff:fe42:f24c JOIN :#esoteric < 1426525373 970389 :arjanb!8259a906@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.89.169.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426525699 132205 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1426527314 600112 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:a16c:83db:7216:9763 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1426527340 500021 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:a16c:83db:7216:9763 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426527872 550176 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1426528700 735067 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1426528945 220112 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1426529405 661863 :yukko!~yuuko@unaffiliated/yukko JOIN :#esoteric < 1426530173 654083 :oren!~oren@65.94.97.99 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1426531912 612213 :cuquitu!~cuquitu@213.143.61.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426532680 438935 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1426532706 76088 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426532752 603025 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1426533188 745685 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426533348 484440 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc39-189.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1426534283 24781 :MoALTz_!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1426534304 368676 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426534692 363676 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 NICK :TieSoul_ < 1426534708 72534 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 NICK :TieSoul < 1426534753 948090 :raoulvdberge!~R40UL@2a02:1812:2a14:a600:fcbc:3ab2:fe22:71c JOIN :#esoteric < 1426535502 657518 :raoulvdberge!~R40UL@2a02:1812:2a14:a600:fcbc:3ab2:fe22:71c QUIT :Read error: 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777397 :raoulvdberge!~R40UL@2a02:1812:2a14:a600:fcbc:3ab2:fe22:71c QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1426538563 416752 :raoulvdberge!~R40UL@2a02:1812:2a14:a600:fcbc:3ab2:fe22:71c JOIN :#esoteric < 1426539296 212177 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1426540228 580040 :iamevn!~evn@67.201.217.24 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426540482 617096 :g2watson!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1426541296 284469 :iamevn!~evn@67.201.217.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been working on a simple language for the last couple days, mainly because I've never tried to write an interpreter before and I thought it'd be fun to dive in and see what works and what doesn't. https://github.com/iamevn/wordy < 1426541307 500883 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@65-183-137-193-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1426541357 655125 :iamevn!~evn@67.201.217.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The basic idea is that any collection of sentences is valid source code and is guaranteed to do /something/ without crashing. Also computed GOTOs are fun < 1426541453 913998 :iamevn!~evn@67.201.217.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any suggestions for things I can do to make the description and spec better/more clear? < 1426541530 409078 :R40UL_!~R40UL@2a02:1812:2a14:a600:fcbc:3ab2:fe22:71c JOIN :#esoteric < 1426541764 446786 :raoulvdberge!~R40UL@2a02:1812:2a14:a600:fcbc:3ab2:fe22:71c QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1426542089 798598 :R40UL_!~R40UL@2a02:1812:2a14:a600:fcbc:3ab2:fe22:71c QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1426542122 13684 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:a16c:83db:7216:9763 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1426542147 791835 :^v^v!~^v@2601:4:680:104c:a16c:83db:7216:9763 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426542644 514714 :cleres!~cleres@213.143.60.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426542693 918904 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426542776 415302 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be great if your language description would output "Hello, World!" when interpreted by Word. iamevn. < 1426542786 202035 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by Wordy* < 1426543034 228888 :iamevn!~evn@67.201.217.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be a pain to set that up for output that long. My current "Hello, world!" program consists of 168 sentences but I could possibly get it down to around 40 with some really long sentences to define constants to print. < 1426543097 17473 :iamevn!~evn@67.201.217.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently building a database of sentences from various books and I'm planning on adjusting the instruction mapping after analyzing that < 1426543378 594080 :iamevn!~evn@67.201.217.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The spec currently just loops for a bit and is only 56 commands long. < 1426543723 900556 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. Maybe an idea would be to use other punctuation marks as a subset of instruction. I mean, Christopher, Walken, saying something, should, be... different than, anybody, else SAYING: "I mean, Christopher Walken saying something should be... different than anybody else saying:" < 1426543801 79146 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I like the premis as is, though. < 1426543878 65650 :iamevn!~evn@67.201.217.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, I briefly played with the idea of adding an instruction to make the motherboard beep but soon after reenabling the pcspkr kernel module I remembered why I disabled it in the first place. < 1426544034 150704 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can imagine. < 1426544047 916855 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, motherboards can still do that beep sound? < 1426544148 447359 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, though many systems don't have a speaker wired up for it. < 1426544179 844706 :iamevn!~evn@67.201.217.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think windows and osx also don't allow you to anymore either. < 1426544356 591403 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4c6f4.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1426544762 57558 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426544770 698546 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1426544865 977425 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lshkxgwfdodbvqej QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1426544910 721688 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, glogbot is fixed now, it look like < 1426545070 744817 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!glogbot_help < 1426545085 684026 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!chicken < 1426545117 632078 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: please kickban cuquitu. it's a spambot. < 1426545118 759459 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put an adjective behind it. In all caps. < 1426545131 679790 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!chicken ADMONISHED < 1426545144 97077 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And cleres too, elliott__. < 1426545168 440671 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got the sme message from him as I did cuquitu. < 1426545408 384458 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1426545410 448046 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're all spambots though. I mean, I don't get a minutes rest from all the shit my brain is trying to sell me. < 1426545439 485681 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're not privately messaging all people who say something on the channel < 1426545461 406691 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: oh... deep. < 1426545462 171914 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's to say that little voice inside your head is yours? < 1426545480 812164 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mine. < 1426545482 47613 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's mine. I've grown used to it and adopted it. < 1426545488 434642 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Telepathic spamming has tricked us into thinking we're conscious. < 1426545497 690172 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's that for esoteric. < 1426545519 711970 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can set yourself +g and +D if you do not want to receive any messages on IRC, although that doesn't seem very useful; usually when you send a message you would want to get a reply. < 1426545542 568628 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as it isn't any .. what'stherename ... Thetans... it's fine. < 1426545589 516400 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :+D yeah. "This prevents you from receiving channel messages. You will probably not want to set this in most cases. (It is used by services.)" < 1426545658 646495 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But is there a user mode such that when receiving a message, the sender's hostmask indicates whether they're identified to Nickserv or not? < 1426545678 358214 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I don't know if +R does it? < 1426545687 565864 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Probably not) < 1426545703 661222 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :+R filters out the messages from unidentified users; I don't really want that. < 1426545707 788052 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :+D might possibly be useful for bots that only announce, in order to reduce how much data is needed < 1426545718 776073 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Then probably there isn't one < 1426545730 860579 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although you can check if they are cloaked from the hostname at least < 1426545743 95279 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1426545744 729067 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not all identified clients are cloaked, such as, I am not < 1426545753 424141 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor I. < 1426545821 462396 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: there is a way to know that, but it's too long to fit on this margin < 1426545822 896731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1426545825 806128 :g2watson!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what cloaked means < 1426545827 679427 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ask me again tomorrow < 1426545845 493630 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what Fermat said. < 1426545855 183791 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Note timestamp: 23:46:12 int-e: ask me again tomorrow < 1426545861 766099 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Took him hella long to reincarnate as Andrew Wile. < 1426545885 96430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: glogbot needs a clock adjustment hth < 1426545906 740581 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yeah, but it won't help if you ask while I'm asleep < 1426545933 896313 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: it's Wiles. (Oh he's been knighted?) < 1426545962 864741 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Who knows what feats your unconscious is capable of... < 1426545995 826168 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like. Good for him, and Maths. < 1426546027 800987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the problem isn't his unconscious hearing it, the problem is him remembering it after he wakes up hth < 1426546036 897714 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1426546036 921595 NAMES :#esoteric < 1426546041 188925 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, Rolf Harrison was knighted. < 1426546047 645683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!*cleres@213.143.60.* < 1426546047 646458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no KICK #esoteric cleres :Spamming > 1426546047 656309 NAMES :#esoteric < 1426546055 393902 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!*cuquitu@213.143.61.* < 1426546055 394868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no KICK #esoteric cuquitu :Spamming > 1426546055 405543 NAMES :#esoteric < 1426546067 174455 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: That happened in 2000, but I don't recall reading about it anywhere. < 1426546069 126064 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks ørjan < 1426546073 780464 :g2watson!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hearing it? does he have an irc-to-voice bridge? < 1426546095 740076 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we definitely have a bot problem in this chännel... < 1426546106 709974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!*@213.143.* > 1426546106 720690 NAMES :#esoteric < 1426546124 948984 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :g2watson: you know that processors have all those funny emissions, some of them are audible. < 1426546138 520454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Gregor HackEgo is missing and glogbot needs a time adjustment hth < 1426546138 521155 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1426546153 5215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :*!*cleres@213.143.60.* > 1426546153 16158 NAMES :#esoteric < 1426546154 435625 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :g2watson: see http://www.tau.ac.il/~tromer/acoustic/ for example < 1426546161 586966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :*!*cuquitu@213.143.61.* > 1426546161 597434 NAMES :#esoteric < 1426546223 899952 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1426546223 910722 NAMES :#esoteric < 1426546231 160508 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That link... Human ingenuity never ceases to amaze me. < 1426546289 729485 :g2watson!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... Seems like you could just play music while en/decrypting to fix that < 1426546338 855305 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Subtract the music with MUSAKHACKS.exe -subtrack < 1426546344 348326 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would playing music actually work though? Music doesn't suppress other noise too isn't it? < 1426546376 786235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : hearing it? does he have an irc-to-voice bridge? <-- the unconscious is not limited by such considerations AUM hth < 1426546385 76292 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only if it would go beyond the threshold of what's recording. < 1426546433 491005 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :g2watson: Doubtful. Besides filtering techniques, there's the possibility to filter audio by source location given several microphones spaced somewhat apart (all 8 corners of a server, perhaps?) < 1426546468 508737 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make a computer that shields the noise from the inside and has a built-in power regulator so that power analysis cannot be used either. < 1426546498 22891 :g2watson!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a computer that contains a wide-band random noise generator < 1426546504 967932 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :g2watson: http://www.wired.com/2010/10/super-microphone-picks-out-single-voice-in-a-crowded-stadium/ < 1426546590 277271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Gregor actually it is there just failing to join the channel for some reason. again. < 1426546590 278780 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1426546637 684443 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426546643 127469 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: often-more-responsive-than-Gregor-ping < 1426546687 631851 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pinky Another day. What shall we use it for? < 1426546687 884046 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I think so, Brain, but it's a miracle that this one grew back. < 1426546694 940336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops backwards < 1426546700 781224 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@brain Another day. What shall we use it for? < 1426546700 785187 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Promise me something, Pinky. Never breed. < 1426546710 255518 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok not for breeding, check < 1426546821 715336 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. *!*@*.aq < 1426546842 250906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: elliott hates penguins hth < 1426546888 516137 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I see nothing that looks like it would include glogbot. < 1426546927 37406 :ProofTechnique!~ptech@c-24-147-92-185.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426546978 185629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym HackEgo < 1426547002 738180 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: this is not new, it just seems to happen frequently on pingouts/server crashes/whatever < 1426547014 33962 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see. < 1426547030 347256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie wins again < 1426547067 585704 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1426547079 215706 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're in luck, I just got home. < 1426547081 791668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume you've got your internet working enough you don't have to do that tethering-avoiding cell-phone dance any more < 1426547088 260585 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1426547097 713686 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, we wouldn't have had fungot without that. < 1426547098 39592 :g2watson!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cell phone dance? < 1426547098 64397 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: later tell forcer there's a new revision eons ago but it seems that it's injected loads of users though? < 1426547101 71735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, yay < 1426547110 672934 :g2watson!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold on, wrong name again < 1426547114 843801 :g2watson!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu NICK :oren < 1426547117 203855 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You seem to have me confused with a bot. < 1426547117 539648 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: depends on how the program changes it. it prints ( list 1 2) ( scheme-report-environment 5)) < 1426547121 840742 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I didn't expect to find anything, just thought it would be worth checking anyway. < 1426547145 323903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: fizzie recently moved to london, and didn't have proper internet for a while, only cell phone < 1426547158 815401 :oren!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1426547209 531419 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, fungot is our voice of reason. Sometimes it's even coherent! < 1426547209 673530 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you will see something else is too small < 1426547210 865095 :oren!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so was he doing that thing where a cell phone acts as a router? < 1426547234 979723 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was not doing that, because it's forbidden by my phone contract. < 1426547240 824579 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence I had to do circuitous things. < 1426547261 434426 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like move files from a computer into the phone in order to put them online, and so on. < 1426547278 706641 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : int-e: you will see something else is too small << i don't think we should teach bots that kind of jokes. otherwise they might pass turing's test < 1426547278 988543 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: what does that want to be misinterpreted by later generations... ahem... machine-readable format the other day." < 1426547299 877855 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1426547370 887856 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turing test is bunk. I mean, if a 13yo Ukranian computer can pass it... Then we need another test. < 1426547457 773119 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's funny < 1426547473 148636 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every time an AI problem is solved, people find that the rules were flawed. :P < 1426547478 238171 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn fungot is our beloved channel mascot and voice of reason. < 1426547478 445871 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i didn't see it, you can't get an apartment, so it doesn't allow general recursion. < 1426547492 142086 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'fungot': fungot is our beloved channel mascot and voice of reason. < 1426547497 484207 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm no exception to that. But I find it amusing nonetheless.) < 1426547516 116430 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this goalpost is very important, int-e. We need to get it right. < 1426547519 579315 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :au revoir fungot! < 1426547519 887189 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and that would cause infinite loops on my vm/ compiler just shows me how much i dislike the concept of the system < 1426547528 38347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been planning to add a fungot wisdom for a week but i couldn't think of what to put in the second part < 1426547528 277268 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: please dont read that wrong anyway.) in this portable scheme library? :) ( i'm sure i'll have some holidays within the next ten years" would be < 1426547546 911988 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426547548 390467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks int-e < 1426547548 738665 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise we might not feel good about the AI slaves we'll be having. < 1426547549 915620 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, int-e. Thint-e. < 1426547550 53329 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: chess are flawed. period. < 1426547551 678654 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I need to get back on track. I've been neglecting my duties. < 1426547552 179521 :oren!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, human like AI isn't even that useful < 1426547564 796456 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SIMILAR CHICKEN < 1426547571 247911 :oren!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because humans are cheap < 1426547579 417492 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm currently reading A fire into the deep by Vernor Vinge < 1426547666 186182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Turing test is bunk. I mean, if a 13yo Ukranian computer can pass it... Then we need another test. <-- well _that_ test was bunk, it was artificially limited what the interrogators could ask. < 1426547681 113470 :oren!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :A fire upon the deep? < 1426547711 852353 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1426547729 370281 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I should have qualified that. But I still think some unlike Turing things will have to be added to make it more useful. < 1426547747 716676 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: i didn't see it, you can't get an apartment, so it doesn't allow general recursion. <-- yeah you're pretty much right about that. < 1426547747 960939 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it was a mutated ecoli, i just meant that i have absolutely no interest in doing so < 1426547800 608213 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : But this goalpost is very important, int-e. We need to get it right. <-- the AI problem will have been solved when humans are no longer the ones with the power to set the goalposts hth < 1426547867 75424 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm for it. As long as they aren't I Have No Mouth twisted, then it can only beneficent mankind. < 1426547868 765446 :oren!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah! the actual "AI problem" is to make it both practical and cheaper to use AI's for a given purpose than humans. < 1426547869 691211 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndoDaan: It's certain that Turing didn't have teenagers with a language barrier in mind when he designed his test(s). (Now I wonder whether any of the Judges could read and write Ukrainian...) < 1426547959 165547 :oren!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular humans are easier to debug than AI's. < 1426547975 872254 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :?! < 1426547975 872907 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: v @ ? . < 1426547976 501140 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Percussive maintenance. < 1426548020 894075 :oren!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1426548020 946162 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. What kind of drugs will an AI take? < 1426548085 336199 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1426548098 469540 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess maybe they'll have the skills to modify their own stake. < 1426548109 917808 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :state* < 1426548179 40867 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knows. < 1426548214 885560 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there will be some special repetetive (or not) bitstreams that overexcite receptors connected to pleasure centers. < 1426548261 905402 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, but they might want to be able to nuance what their pleasure is. < 1426548262 633567 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( "My AI is addicted to music by Bach." ) < 1426548284 639583 :oren!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it be profitable to use such AI? < 1426548305 686562 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're lucky, we have All kinds of evolutionary buttons to push, AI's will be more focused at first. < 1426548312 222741 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@188.188.67.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha. < 1426548385 591226 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: "use"? It would be thrilling to exchange ideas with it, and enjoy the short period before AIs surpass us and are no longer interested in talking to us :P < 1426548419 837036 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: More seriously, not all human endeavours are motivated by the prospect of profit. < 1426548461 463283 :oren!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, but an AI-dev team needs to get funding from somewhere? < 1426548478 604586 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How commoly is setjmp used as a loop condition in a C code? < 1426548495 878858 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how often as a loop condition when the loop body is empty? < 1426548509 932109 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's academia, and there are hobbyists. And there are always people founding research in the hope of applying the resulting ideas elsewhere. < 1426548520 780240 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/founding/funding/ < 1426548532 184474 :oren!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Um, I have never used it that way < 1426548544 850604 :oren!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then < 1426548564 202843 :oren!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have only used it as the C version of "try" < 1426548599 813269 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually using it as a loop condition with an empty loop body is the only way I have ever used it, and only in one program < 1426548665 803919 :oren!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... on first return it exits right away < 1426548688 344533 :oren!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :On second return it loops once then sets the jump again and exits < 1426548726 260862 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1426548753 9968 :oren!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it allows you to go back to that place an unlimited number of times < 1426548764 164902 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1426548890 864454 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program is a Z-machine debugger. < 1426548955 9300 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Why would you do that? if (setjmp(...)) { } and while (setjmp(...)) { } seem equivalent to me, since it's okay to use the same jmp_buf data several times... < 1426548966 956666 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I have been told that it isn't OK < 1426548986 89032 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is why I even used a while loop rather than just putting setjmp as a statement by itself. < 1426549005 490248 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I don't otherwise care about the return value. < 1426549075 331149 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Errors and breakpoints can occur even in the middle of an instruction's execution, so the debugger checks if the program counter has changed, if it hasn't then it just returns to the program otherwise it longjmp before continuing execution. < 1426549221 760679 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc39-189.rentec.com QUIT : < 1426549352 292966 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: So reading the C11 and C99 drafts I see no indication that this is problematic. The case is not explicitly mentioned. POSIX defers to the C standard... < 1426549434 863286 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Well, maybe, but someone else told me that it isn't allowed to reuse the same jump buffer, so I did this just to be safe anyways < 1426549596 646295 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-67-232-56-116.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1426549624 547965 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, now I made up a new keyword of Magic: the Gathering called "spellmorph"; it can be faced up for its spellmorph cost while on the stack or in play, but if faced up while in play in this way, it is moved onto the top of the stack. Either way, targets and modes are now selected at this time. < 1426549671 205951 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If it is faced up while already on the stack, it remains in its current position instead of being placed on top. However, if it also has float, you can then move it to the top.) < 1426549691 362798 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like that? < 1426549726 840147 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course there's always the question of what compilers do in practice, which may be more important than what the standard says. But I'd still like to have a better source than "somebody on the internet told me that somebody told him that this is bad". < 1426549761 957484 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes, that would help to know, although whether it is OK or not, what I did is safe. < 1426549790 902503 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Possibly it is OK on some computers and not on others.) < 1426549922 235933 :oren!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: but some fascists will use the fact it isn't ok to make the whole program return immediately < 1426549956 957588 :oren!~g2watson@wolf.cdf.toronto.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if it works i'm guessing it's ok < 1426550072 297587 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect it probably is OK in most cases (although possibly messes with some optimizations?), but am not sure, and possibly it might not work if compiling C->Java or whatever < 1426550347 779129 :zzo38_!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1426550351 455407 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1426550353 754484 :zzo38_!~zzo38@d108-180-163-75.bchsia.telus.net NICK :zzo38