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00:00:13 <oerjan> <AndoDaan> Hmm. What kind of drugs will an AI take? <-- i think they'd be on the wire </niven>
00:00:47 <oerjan> *under
00:01:04 <AndoDaan> Can't wait for that one. Poor Kzinthi, though.know I misspelled that.
00:01:29 <int-e> I googled some more; I still think it's okay per the standard (and I've seen several people come to the same conclusion), but as said earlier, it's possible that some implementations get this wrong. I also found https://www.securecoding.cert.org/confluence/display/c/MSC22-C.+Use+the+setjmp%28%29,+longjmp%28%29+facility+securely which has some nice examples (but doesn't mention double use of...
00:01:35 <int-e> ...set_jmp buffers either, except in a comment)
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00:07:37 <zzo38> Well, in case some implementations don't allow reusing the same buffer, that's why I did the way I did it! Otherwise I don't need a loop and can just use setjmp as a statement by itself. I don't know much about some VM such as Java VM to know whether or not such a thing requires it when compiling C->JVM or C->Dalvik or whatever.
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00:09:20 <oerjan> AndoDaan: *-h
00:10:03 <AndoDaan> Cool, thanks.
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01:08:44 <oerjan> @tell elliott <elliott__> I have too many __s <-- more like you're not logged in to your account; technically you can be even if you're not currently using a nick registered to it
01:08:44 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
01:09:20 * oerjan briefly wonders if elliott__ will never see that message because he'll never lose the _s
01:11:25 <oerjan> @tell elliott iirc there's a syntax for including the account name in the server password for this
01:11:25 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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02:26:46 <oerjan> <int-e> As long as it isn't any .. what'stherename ... Thetans... it's fine. <-- this is #esoteric. we have Multiocularoans.
02:27:07 <oerjan> @tell int-e <int-e> As long as it isn't any .. what'stherename ... Thetans... it's fine. <-- this is #esoteric. we have Multiocularoans.
02:27:07 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
02:29:56 <quintopia> oerjan: do they live in a matrix of solidity?
02:31:28 <oerjan> no, we do.
02:31:33 <ProofTechnique> > replicate 10 'ꙮ'
02:31:39 <oerjan> i thought that was well established.
02:32:05 <ProofTechnique> > replicate 10 ''
02:32:06 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:15:
02:32:06 <lambdabot> lexical error in string/character literal at character '\STX'
02:32:23 <oerjan> `unidecode 'ꙮ'
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02:32:41 <oerjan> shocking
02:32:45 <oerjan> > 'Ø'
02:32:47 <lambdabot> '\216'
02:32:53 <oerjan> > 'ꙮ'
02:32:54 <lambdabot> '\42606'
02:33:02 <quintopia> well yes but
02:33:05 <oerjan> oh you still had some bolding
02:33:12 <ProofTechnique> I have no idea where that's coming from
02:33:14 <quintopia> i didnt know whether they did
02:33:23 <quintopia> and if so, is it the same one
02:33:23 <ProofTechnique> Bizarre
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02:33:37 <oerjan> quintopia: we may never know.
02:35:14 <ProofTechnique> I think it's an issue with my client. :|
02:36:19 <oerjan> i assume you copied and pasted that from somewhere...
02:39:31 <ProofTechnique> > cat . map (text . pure . chr) $ replicate 10 42606
02:39:32 <lambdabot> ꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮ
02:39:34 <ProofTechnique> Better
02:41:39 <oerjan> > replicate 10 '\42606'
02:41:40 <lambdabot> "\42606\42606\42606\42606\42606\42606\42606\42606\42606\42606"
02:41:49 <oerjan> RIGHT
02:41:59 <oerjan> :t cat
02:42:00 <lambdabot> [Doc] -> Doc
02:42:05 <oerjan> huh
02:42:12 <ProofTechnique> @hoogle cat
02:42:13 <lambdabot> Text.PrettyPrint.HughesPJ cat :: [Doc] -> Doc
02:42:13 <lambdabot> Text.PrettyPrint cat :: [Doc] -> Doc
02:42:13 <lambdabot> Language.Haskell.TH.PprLib cat :: [Doc] -> Doc
02:42:26 <oerjan> > text $ replicate 10 '\42606'
02:42:27 <lambdabot> ꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮ
02:42:35 <ProofTechnique> Oh, that would be easier
02:43:13 <ProofTechnique> I was still thinking about this discussion in #haskell that required all that extra work :D
02:46:28 <ProofTechnique> > nest 10 . text $ replicate 10 '\42606'
02:46:30 <lambdabot> ꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮ
02:46:39 <ProofTechnique> Neat. I'm going to have to use this library more often.
02:47:39 <oerjan> last i checked it didn't support table grids, though.
02:48:02 <ProofTechnique> Aww
02:48:18 <oerjan> as in, you can combine either horizontal or vertical, but not both simultaneously
02:48:32 <oerjan> in a way that combines widths
02:49:02 <ProofTechnique> :t hang
02:49:02 <lambdabot> Doc -> Int -> Doc -> Doc
02:49:35 <ProofTechnique> hang (text '\42606') 5 (text '\42607')
02:49:45 <ProofTechnique> > hang (text '\42606') 5 (text '\42607')
02:49:46 <lambdabot> Couldn't match type ‘GHC.Types.Char’ with ‘[GHC.Types.Char]’
02:49:46 <lambdabot> Expected type: GHC.Base.String
02:49:46 <lambdabot> Actual type: GHC.Types.CharCouldn't match type ‘GHC.Types.Char’ with ‘[GHC...
02:49:55 <ProofTechnique> Oh, duh
02:50:06 <ProofTechnique> > hang (text "\42606") 5 (text "\42607")
02:50:07 <lambdabot> ꙮ ꙯
02:50:10 <oerjan> hm does lambdabot have OverloadedString
02:50:13 <oerjan> *+s
02:50:18 <oerjan> > "test" :: Text
02:50:19 <lambdabot> Not in scope: type constructor or class ‘Text’
02:50:26 <ProofTechnique> > hang "\42606" 5 "\42607"
02:50:27 <oerjan> oh not that Text
02:50:27 <lambdabot> Couldn't match expected type ‘Text.PrettyPrint.HughesPJ.Doc’
02:50:27 <lambdabot> with actual type ‘[GHC.Types.Char]’Couldn't match expected type ...
02:50:27 <lambdabot> with actual type ‘[GHC.Types.Char]’
02:50:32 <oerjan> > "test" :: Doc
02:50:33 <lambdabot> Couldn't match expected type ‘Text.PrettyPrint.HughesPJ.Doc’
02:50:33 <lambdabot> with actual type ‘[GHC.Types.Char]’
02:50:37 <oerjan> nah
02:51:00 <ProofTechnique> > hang "\42606" 20 "\42607"
02:51:01 <lambdabot> Couldn't match expected type ‘Text.PrettyPrint.HughesPJ.Doc’
02:51:01 <lambdabot> with actual type ‘[GHC.Types.Char]’Couldn't match expected type ...
02:51:01 <lambdabot> with actual type ‘[GHC.Types.Char]’
02:51:06 <ProofTechnique> > hang (text "\42606") 20 (text "\42607")
02:51:07 <lambdabot> ꙮ ꙯
02:51:11 <ProofTechnique> > hang (text "\42606") 20 (text "\42606")
02:51:12 <lambdabot> ꙮ ꙮ
02:51:34 <ProofTechnique> :t sep
02:51:35 <lambdabot> [Doc] -> Doc
02:51:48 * ProofTechnique shrugs
02:52:45 <oerjan> it's too short to wrap?
02:53:41 <oerjan> iirc there's some config to change the max width
02:56:03 <ProofTechnique> > text "for" <> space <> lparen <> semi <> semi <> rparen <> space <> lbrace <> rbrace
02:56:05 <lambdabot> for (;;) {}
02:56:19 <Sgeo> http://twinbeard.com/kickstarter-simulator-2015
02:56:54 <ProofTechnique> Frog Fractions was great
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03:54:50 <oerjan> @tell fizzie no wiki bridge hth
03:54:50 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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06:16:49 <Lymia> > text "for" <> space <> lparen <> semi <> semi <> rparen <> space <> lbrace <> text "puts" <> lparen <> quote <> text "Hello, world!" <> quote <> rparen <> rbrace
06:16:50 <lambdabot> Not in scope: ‘quote’
06:16:50 <lambdabot> Perhaps you meant one of these:
06:16:50 <lambdabot> ‘quot’ (imported from Prelude),
06:17:07 <Lymia> > text "for" <> space <> lparen <> semi <> semi <> rparen <> space <> lbrace <> text "puts" <> lparen <> text "\"Hello, world!\"" <> rparen <> semi <> rbrace
06:17:08 <lambdabot> for (;;) {puts("Hello, world!");}
06:17:15 <Lymia> Interesting
06:17:15 <Lymia> ?
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07:47:42 <mroman> .
07:47:55 <oren> .
07:48:00 <mroman> Good, crisus isn't here anymore
07:48:15 <oren> who's crisus
07:48:36 <mroman> A spam bot on this channel.
07:49:04 <oren> oh.
07:49:47 <oerjan> i banned a couple and their ip
07:50:14 <oerjan> *ip range
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08:17:11 <b_jonas> morning
08:18:11 <oren> good mroing
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09:05:13 <myname> good moaning
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09:09:18 <oren> happy st patricks day
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09:44:07 <oren> https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8461586176/h50B14538/
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10:24:31 <boily> @massages-loud
10:24:31 <lambdabot> You don't have any messages
10:32:24 <Taneb> fungot, what should I have for breakfast?
10:32:24 <fungot> Taneb: ( line 1, column 4): ( cerr nl)) is a term
10:32:47 <Taneb> fungot, cereal, you say?
10:32:47 <fungot> Taneb: so i need
10:32:56 <Taneb> fizzie, I think fungot needs cereal
10:32:56 <fungot> Taneb: ct is a fun scheme implementation for php...)
10:42:03 <boily> Tanelle. feeding botsnacks to the fungot?
10:42:03 <fungot> boily: will it be as disgusting as it sounds, if that something else, ideally something else concrete or specific? :) i've played with meroon a bit.
10:42:25 <boily> fungot: hey, don't diss the Tanebcereals!
10:42:25 <fungot> boily: ok then stop whining about it missing things like http://foo/ bar-baz' fnord. apparently he uses to stress-test syntax-rules implementations. it's been shown to be useful
10:42:39 <boily> fungot: OKAY
10:42:39 <fungot> boily: the proc is invoked. before or after the evaluator transfers control to a certain class of anime characters with long hair and loud music
10:45:31 <AndoDaan> fungot, dipense cereal.\
10:45:32 <fungot> AndoDaan: i wonder how long it took psyntax to load it.) here's a program i have in the in-memory cache at one time
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10:52:26 <b_jonas> oh hello, fungot!
10:52:27 <fungot> b_jonas: no one develops or really even uses the client anymore... all i wanted to link it and solaris's linker rejects a.out.
10:52:29 <b_jonas> I haven't seen you in a while
10:52:44 <b_jonas> I'm glad you found your way back safe, fungot
10:52:45 <fungot> b_jonas: that's great. maybe it needs some more comments, but the
10:52:57 <b_jonas> fungot: I hope you enjoyed your vacation as much as I have
10:52:57 <fungot> b_jonas: with improvements. just be uniform about it. what's it like?
10:53:15 <b_jonas> fungot: a week long, no new snow but enough remaining on the pistes
10:53:16 <fungot> b_jonas: no, but i don't want such a target for codegen. i've done enough of this bickering. en guard, neil!
10:54:03 <AndoDaan> fungot and b_jonas sitting in a tree, kay eye es es eye en gee...
10:54:03 <fungot> AndoDaan: and when you do ( nth-value 1 ( function)). the primitive operations of a turing machine was an ad-hoc, fnord bug-ridden slow implementation of half of common lisp.
10:54:04 <ais523> ooh, fungot is here
10:54:04 <fungot> ais523: i think you have to follow that route too probably, but it does no fingerprints at all,
10:54:11 <b_jonas> oh, ais523 is here
10:54:13 <ais523> as is AndoDaan, as is b_jonas
10:54:48 <Taneb> `? weetoflakes
10:54:50 <HackEgo> Weetoflakes are something Taneb invented; they taste sort of purple.
10:57:56 <ais523> wow, I just got spam in French, and I could actually read enough of it to see that it was in a typical spam form
10:59:02 <boily> ais523: ooooh! can I get a copy?
11:00:21 <ais523> "Mes sincères salutations et mes excuses à votre égard. Je voudrais m'excuser de mon intrusion dans votre vie privée. Je me nomme Mme Patricia Konan , Cadre au Département de la Comptabilité à Ecobank Côte d'Ivoire. Un compte a été ouvert au sein de notre banque en 2005 et depuis 2011, aucune opération ne s'est effectuée. Ce compte présente à ce jour dans nos livres, un compte créditeur de Huit Millions Cinq Cent Mille €uros ( 8.500.
11:00:23 <ais523> 000 €). Après avoir consulté tous les dossiers relatifs à ce compte, je me suis rendue compte que je pouvais disposer aisément de cet argent si je réussissais à le virer sur un compte à l'extérieur donc je suis à la recherche d'un partenaire serieux et honnête."
11:00:28 <ais523> I can go on if you like
11:00:39 <ais523> but the second sentence struck me as a typical spam opening
11:00:57 <ais523> basically because it's saying "you don't know who I am or why I'm contacting you, that's expected"
11:01:19 <AndoDaan> "Come with me if you want to live"?
11:01:30 <ais523> most non-English spam I get is in Russian
11:01:39 <ais523> AndoDaan: I translated it as "I'd like you to forgive me for intruding into your private life"
11:01:57 <b_jonas> I've got a few spam in strange languages, but I don't recall any in French
11:01:58 <ais523> my French is not nearly as good as that of the actual French people here, though
11:02:07 <ais523> b_jonas: well French isn't exactly a strange language
11:02:41 <b_jonas> yep
11:02:50 <AndoDaan> oui.
11:02:59 <AndoDaan> Wow, I know french.
11:04:12 <ais523> b_jonas: what proportion of your spam is in Hungarian, incidentally?
11:04:19 <ais523> (i.e. are spambots any good at guessing native languages?)
11:06:09 <b_jonas> ais523: I get some Hungarian spam... let me think, it's not easy to tell because I don't collect spam and rarely look at them
11:07:13 <ais523> my spam filter for my nethack4.org address runs client-side
11:07:28 <ais523> and although there have been no false positives yet, I check my spam folder every now and then
11:07:39 <b_jonas> I get some academic spam ("Dear Professor", call for papers, conference invitation, invited to LinkedIn and whatever) which is all in English (duh)
11:08:15 <ais523> are you an academic?
11:08:23 <b_jonas> There's some Hungarian spam I get, but I think half of them is from companies I have actually been in contact with
11:09:04 <b_jonas> ais523: what counts as an academic? I have maths publications, and the spambots don't ask for a PhD degree (which I haven't got yet)
11:09:18 <b_jonas> and they definitely don't require any higher rank or diploma
11:09:31 <ais523> b_jonas: any paper in any journal is enough, I think
11:09:33 <ais523> for this purpose
11:10:19 <b_jonas> ais523: yes
11:11:11 <b_jonas> Anyway, it seems I have at least some spam in serbo-croatian (in latin letters), some chinese language spam
11:11:19 <b_jonas> and one that looks like italian to me, but let me check
11:12:41 <b_jonas> no wait, this says "Por favor" so it's either Portugese or Spanish
11:16:18 <b_jonas> hmm, multiple spam in croatian language for some reason
11:17:23 <b_jonas> and the "Por favor" one is Portugese because it has -ção
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11:20:10 <b_jonas> I've got quite some Hungarian spam but it comes mostly from the same few companies that I have once contacted
11:20:31 <b_jonas> ones that collect email addresses and then send ads forever
11:20:40 <b_jonas> those don't bother me much because they're easy to filter
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11:48:05 <fizzie> fungot: How would you even eat cereal?
11:48:05 <fungot> fizzie: not sure how to do the gules fish.
11:48:20 <fizzie> @tell oerjan I always forget that one.
11:48:20 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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13:44:18 <J_Arcane> am i insane for thinking that a functional programming language without proper support for recursion is a dumb idea? :/
13:44:50 <J_Arcane> Also, account cleres is a spambot.
13:45:33 <ais523> J_Arcane: evidence? PMs?
13:45:40 <J_Arcane> Yes.
13:45:57 <J_Arcane> Automatic spam PM in Spanish with an obfuscated link as soon as I messaged the channel.
13:46:07 <ais523> I didn't get one
13:46:18 <ais523> ah, now I did
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13:46:55 <ais523> hmm
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13:48:20 <ais523> what sort of spambot rejoins that quickly after kicks anyway
13:48:26 <ais523> when there'll clearly be an op watching
13:51:48 <J_Arcane> Who the hell even wastes time spamming IRC anymore for that matter?
13:57:21 <ais523> well, spam is cheap
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14:07:34 <oren> gules? gules as in heraldrish for red?
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17:56:27 <Soni> so there's this language called Lua, it's pretty standard stuff
17:56:42 <coppro> I've heard of that once or thirtice
17:57:02 <Soni> but I had an idea for an esoteric language which I shall call "verticallua" https://gist.github.com/SoniEx2/0175fb380a96317f6761
17:57:55 <coppro> is it just the transpose of Lua?
17:58:46 <Soni> it's vertical lua, yes
17:59:44 <Soni> whitespace is significant as it behaves both as syntactic separator (just like in normal lua) and padding
17:59:59 <Soni> (idk any programming language that requires padding)
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18:07:04 <b_jonas> Soni: does it count as padding when fortran and some assembly languages require space between the label and instruction fields, even if the label is not present?
18:07:38 <Soni> no?
18:07:41 <Soni> padding is like
18:07:50 <Soni> all lines must be X bytes in length
18:08:03 <b_jonas> oh, like any language on punched cards?
18:08:12 <Soni> uhh I guess
18:10:12 <Soni> didn't think of that :P
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18:52:01 <int-e> such silliness, space based cloud computing...
18:55:37 <int-e> fungot: enlighten me
18:55:38 <fungot> int-e: collections are the greatest of three numbers x, y, z, r fnord rgb r, g, d, e
18:56:04 <int-e> thanks, I'll have to meditate on that
18:57:30 <int-e> `unidecode ꚜъ
18:57:32 <HackEgo> U+A69C - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: ea 9a 9c UTF-16BE: a69c Decimal: &#42652; \ ꚜ (ꚜ) \ Uppercase: U+A69C \ Category: Cn (Other, Not Assigned) \ \ U+044A CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER HARD SIGN \ UTF-8: d1 8a UTF-16BE: 044a Decimal: &#1098; \ ъ (Ъ) \ Uppercase: U+042A \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-t
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20:29:07 <newsham> http://www.drmichaeljoyner.com/identical-twins-genetic-destiny/
20:32:05 <newsham> oops, that was for another chan
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21:31:54 <fizzie> "Warning: Can't delete Permanent tag Canon:TimeZone" grumble frumble exiftool.
21:32:34 <fizzie> (Didn't set the camera time zone at all, trying to fix it retroactively; exiftool can shift the timestamp itself just fine, but can't remove the timezone tags.)
21:34:35 <fizzie> It can edit the TimeZone field, but "Warning: Can't convert Canon:TimeZoneCity (not in PrintConv)".
21:35:04 <fizzie> And apparently it didn't edit Canon:TimeZone either.
21:35:14 <fizzie> Well, hopefully no program is trying to be clever enough to parse that field.
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23:31:33 <oerjan> `relcome satbuddhi
23:31:35 <HackEgo> satbuddhi: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
23:31:37 <oerjan> @messages-
23:31:37 <lambdabot> fizzie said 11h 43m 17s ago: I always forget that one.
23:31:38 <lambdabot> int-e said 4h 37m 38s ago: ꙮans make me nervꙭus.
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23:48:27 <boily> @metar CYUL
23:48:28 <lambdabot> CYUL 172300Z 32012G22KT 30SM FEW060 SCT090 M03/M13 A2983 RMK SC2AC2 SLP103
23:53:18 <satbuddhi> hi everyone :)
23:53:29 <oerjan> @metar ENVA
23:53:29 <lambdabot> ENVA 172350Z 09004KT CAVOK 05/M02 Q1034 RMK WIND 670FT 16013KT
23:53:46 <oerjan> spring is a-coming
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