00:06:07 is there teaching in research? 00:06:22 `hi boily 00:06:23 Hi boily. Hoily. 00:06:37 hellolsner. perhaps. 00:07:29 in other news, I'm somewhat happy to see more haskell luminaries in here 00:08:28 fungot: what is edwardk's albedo? 00:08:29 boily: oops no i'm wrong. gah i don't have a problem with loose adaptations, if they're pretty enough. 00:08:47 fungot: what is fungot's then? 00:08:48 olsner: my thought at the time 00:08:55 oerjan: just think of what you're missing out on in #-lens hth 00:09:23 fungot: my thought almost exactly 00:09:23 olsner: srfi 44 has been done. in fact you could do it 00:09:34 i'm pretty pale, so i'd assume my albedo would be quite high 00:09:39 shachaf: there's an #esoteric-lens? 00:10:04 boily: it may be called otherwise, but I think there is 00:25:07 -!- Vorpal has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 00:25:28 -!- Vorpal has joined. 00:39:13 boily: this is ridiculous hth 00:39:25 I know :D 00:44:27 i'm sure Taneb's TC proof would belong there. 00:50:34 oh no 00:51:10 oh yes. 00:53:40 -!- oren has joined. 00:55:18 helloren. 00:59:14 hi 01:09:16 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:15:10 -!- Frooxius has joined. 01:25:58 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 01:26:24 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Gnite). 01:34:25 -!- boily has quit (Quit: ESCALATIVE CHICKEN). 01:38:50 -!- Vorpal has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 01:45:39 -!- Vorpal has joined. 01:45:39 -!- Vorpal has quit (Changing host). 01:45:39 -!- Vorpal has joined. 01:49:23 -!- Frooxius has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 02:37:47 -!- Frooxius has joined. 02:57:44 [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Paul2520 * New user account 03:00:12 ^ woot 03:13:58 [wiki] [[Underload]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42678&oldid=41993 * Esowiki201529A * (+31) /* Numbers */ 03:14:19 [wiki] [[Underload]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42679&oldid=42678 * Esowiki201529A * (+1) /* Numbers */ 03:14:55 [wiki] [[Underload/Numbers]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=42680 * Esowiki201529A * (+2518) Created page with " 0 !() 1 (empty)! 2 :* 3 ::** 4 :*:* 5 ::*:** 6 ::**:* 7 :::**:** 8 :*:*:* 9 ::**::** 10 ::*:**:* 11 :::*:**:** 12 ::**:*:* 13 :::**:*:** 14 :::**:**:* 15 ::*:*..." 03:15:11 -!- tswett has quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.). 03:16:26 -!- Warrigal has joined. 03:25:28 -!- AndoDaan_ has joined. 03:26:49 -!- AndoDaan_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:27:17 -!- AndoDaan_ has joined. 03:27:20 -!- AndoDaan has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 03:31:33 -!- AndoDaan_ has changed nick to AndoDaan. 03:41:32 -!- GeekDude has quit (Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com)). 03:48:01 [wiki] [[Gibberish (programming language)]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42681&oldid=42650 * Esowiki201529A * (+2) /* Interpreter */ 03:49:20 [wiki] [[Gibberish (programming language)]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42683&oldid=42681 * Esowiki201529A * (-2) /* Interpreter */ 03:50:09 [wiki] [[Gibberish (programming language)]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42684&oldid=42683 * Esowiki201529A * (-2) /* See also */ 04:02:33 -!- barrucadu has left. 04:07:51 -!- Decim has joined. 04:11:18 >7854256753 * 79997 04:11:30 spaces after >? 04:11:55 > 7854256753 * 79997 04:11:56 628316977469741 04:12:00 thank 04:14:37 I can do meth 04:14:44 Math* :/ 04:15:48 You can do meth too 04:18:20 I'm 16 ;-; 04:18:44 Are you trying to sell me drugs FreeFull 04:19:24 No 04:20:14 You better not, I've got my eye's on you. »_» 04:27:14 -!- Decim has quit (Quit: Onii-chan you're the best especially when you touch my breast). 04:37:45 `mspalist 04:37:45 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: mspalist: not found 04:37:51 `ls bin 04:37:53 ​` \ `` \ ^.^ \ ̊ \ ! \ ? \ ¿ \ ' \ @ \ ؟ \ WELCOME \ \ \ 2014 \ 2015 \ 8ball \ 8-ball \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ addwep \ allquotes \ analogy \ anonlog \ as86 \ aseen \ benvenuto \ bf \ bienvenido \ botsnack \ bseen \ buttsnack \ calc \ CaT \ catcat \ cats \ cc \ cdecl \ c++decl \ chroot \ coins \ CoInS \ complain \ complain 04:38:22 I refuse to believe that there is nothing in ~/bin that comes later alphabetically than c 05:06:40 -!- Frooxius has quit (Quit: *bubbles away*). 05:10:53 -!- shikhin has joined. 05:12:12 -!- shikhin_ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 05:13:13 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Quit: Leaving). 05:16:09 -!- variable has changed nick to trout. 05:41:56 -!- PinealGlandOptic has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 05:47:41 -!- zadock has quit (Quit: Leaving). 05:47:45 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 06:42:04 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:42:14 -!- trout has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 06:42:27 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 06:43:17 -!- heroux has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 06:55:45 -!- mitchs has joined. 07:14:16 -!- hjulle has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 07:25:32 -!- AndoDaan has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 07:48:13 -!- AndoDaan has joined. 07:53:13 [wiki] [[Goldfish]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42685&oldid=40128 * Esowiki201529A * (+0) /* Commands */ 07:54:07 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:54:36 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 08:01:22 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:02:14 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 08:02:24 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:02:53 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 08:05:00 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:05:28 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 08:13:45 -!- Patashu has joined. 08:17:53 `slist 08:17:54 slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot 08:18:38 -!- Patashu_ has joined. 08:18:38 -!- Patashu has quit (Disconnected by services). 08:19:00 Wow I am half of those names 08:20:09 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 08:21:34 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:22:03 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 08:25:42 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:26:07 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 08:30:04 Last night I may have ordered a new PSU for my desktop 08:30:11 I also may have ordered it to come gift-wrapped 08:37:44 -!- b_jonas has joined. 08:41:54 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 08:45:53 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:46:22 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 08:49:26 [wiki] [[Talk:Gibberish/JavaScript]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=42687 * Esowiki201529A * (+67) Created page with " ${echo:Hello, World!} [wiki] [[Talk:Gibberish/JavaScript]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42688&oldid=42687 * Esowiki201529A * (+1) 08:52:07 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:52:32 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 08:53:09 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:53:14 [wiki] [[Talk:Gibberish/JavaScript]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42689&oldid=42688 * Esowiki201529A * (+50) 08:53:37 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 08:55:28 [wiki] [[Talk:Gibberish/JavaScript]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42690&oldid=42689 * Esowiki201529A * (+45) 08:56:53 [wiki] [[Talk:Gibberish/JavaScript]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42691&oldid=42690 * Esowiki201529A * (+38) 08:57:49 [wiki] [[Talk:Gibberish/JavaScript]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42693&oldid=42691 * Esowiki201529A * (+9) 08:58:59 [wiki] [[Talk:Gibberish/JavaScript]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42694&oldid=42693 * Esowiki201529A * (+2) 08:59:46 [wiki] [[Talk:Gibberish/JavaScript]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42695&oldid=42694 * Esowiki201529A * (-13) 09:03:38 [wiki] [[Talk:Gibberish/JavaScript]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42696&oldid=42695 * Esowiki201529A * (+115) 09:06:24 [wiki] [[Talk:Gibberish/JavaScript]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42697&oldid=42696 * Esowiki201529A * (+155) 09:06:33 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:07:04 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 09:07:20 how much coffee do you drink, fungot? 09:07:20 b_jonas: what good is a kaiser roll?! what good is a kaiser roll?! what good is a kaiser roll without a little easier. these use support files. is this my stop?! 09:08:55 [wiki] [[Talk:Gibberish/JavaScript]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42698&oldid=42697 * Esowiki201529A * (+29) 09:11:33 [wiki] [[Talk:Gibberish/JavaScript]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42700&oldid=42698 * Esowiki201529A * (+94) 09:12:44 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:12:48 [wiki] [[Talk:Gibberish/JavaScript]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42701&oldid=42700 * Esowiki201529A * (+10) 09:13:11 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 09:13:50 fungot: Yes, you should leave the bus now. 09:13:51 mroman: the same forcer had in mind :) ttyl i'm going to study medicine, starting in a language than to campaign for a change that would make it easier for people to edit stuff 09:16:47 [wiki] [[Talk:Gibberish/JavaScript]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42702&oldid=42701 * Esowiki201529A * (+73) 09:18:18 oh no 09:18:24 fungot is studying medicine. that scares me 09:18:25 b_jonas: if itself requires only one jump. jumping back to _before_ where the interrupt _and_ exception systems would abort to in case of fire, and nothing more than a tenth of the mailing list. either i have a *copy* of... or xp if they want 09:18:49 I want XP. no question. 09:22:08 fungot: Are you sure an interrupt handler is enough to deal with a *fire*? 09:22:08 fizzie: you're entitled to your opinion. there are seven bits of a pointer to the memory pages the memory is shared, and the 09:22:14 [wiki] [[Talk:Gibberish/JavaScript]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42703&oldid=42702 * Esowiki201529A * (+137) 09:23:30 [wiki] [[Talk:Gibberish/JavaScript]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42704&oldid=42703 * Esowiki201529A * (+14) 09:23:55 [wiki] [[Talk:Gibberish/JavaScript]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42705&oldid=42704 * Esowiki201529A * (+1) 09:23:57 fungot: Am I entitled to an opinion? 09:23:58 mroman: but that doesn't mean i wouldn't understand it? 09:24:15 fungot: No, you can still understand my opinion. 09:24:15 mroman: body thetans detected? fnord/ tips/ shared/ fnord 09:25:08 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:25:37 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 09:27:01 [wiki] [[Talk:Gibberish/JavaScript]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42706&oldid=42705 * Esowiki201529A * (+29) 09:31:31 when did fungy become a scientologist? 09:31:51 -!- daria has joined. 09:32:06 -!- daria has quit (Changing host). 09:32:06 -!- daria has joined. 09:44:02 -!- Vorpal has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 09:45:38 -!- Vorpal has joined. 09:57:10 [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move * Esowiki201529A * moved [[User:SMA]] to [[User:$M@]] 10:00:56 There was a Scientology bus in Mountain View. 10:00:58 I tried to take a photo, but only caught the rear end of it. 10:01:58 So it's just an "OLOGY" truck now. 10:10:22 [wiki] [[User talk:Esolang account]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=42709 * Esowiki201529A * (+33) Redirected page to [[User:Esowiki201529A]] 10:11:05 [wiki] [[User talk:Esolang account]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42710&oldid=42709 * Esowiki201529A * (+5) Redirected page to [[User talk:Esowiki201529A]] 10:25:32 -!- Insipid has joined. 10:30:27 -!- Insipid has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 10:30:44 -!- boily has joined. 10:36:43 -!- Insipid has joined. 10:43:27 -!- Insipid has left. 10:48:18 -!- nszceta has joined. 10:54:49 [wiki] [[Talk:Gibberish (programming language)]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42711&oldid=42563 * Vriskanon * (+214) /* J command with no command set */ new section 11:00:02 -!- oerjan has joined. 11:03:07 [wiki] [[4]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42712&oldid=42668 * Vriskanon * (+80) added python interpreter (badly optimized) 11:03:09 bon matily 11:04:39 [wiki] [[AFTL]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42713&oldid=42676 * Vriskanon * (-1773) /* Interpreters */ Moved interpreter to github 11:04:43 `` url bin # Sgeo_ 11:04:44 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin 11:05:06 [wiki] [[AFTL]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42714&oldid=42713 * Vriskanon * (+6) /* Interpreters */ Renamed Interpreters to 'External resources' 11:06:23 -!- heroux has joined. 11:07:16 `cat bin/y 11:07:19 ​ELF...Ht$..>............8.......HHu `y 11:07:27 y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y 11:07:37 `cat bin/z 11:07:39 `y no 11:07:43 ​#!/bin/bash \ yes "$@" #ë 11:07:44 no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ no \ 11:07:59 `z 11:08:06 y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y 11:08:15 `yes z 11:08:16 z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z \ z 11:08:35 these seem a little redundant 11:08:51 -!- pikhq has joined. 11:09:05 `` rm bin/{y,z} 11:09:08 oerjan: # yes 11:09:31 No output. 11:10:06 -!- shikhin_ has joined. 11:10:08 I don't recall the last time I even used 'yes'... 11:10:43 it's supposedly good if you have some command that asks a lot of stupid yes/no questions? 11:11:06 yes 'eggs on the wall. throw one more egg,' | cat -n 11:11:12 `` yes 'eggs on the wall. throw one more egg,' | cat -n 11:11:13 ​ 1eggs on the wall. throw one more egg, \ 2eggs on the wall. throw one more egg, \ 3eggs on the wall. throw one more egg, \ 4eggs on the wall. throw one more egg, \ 5eggs on the wall. throw one more egg, \ 6eggs on the wall. throw one more egg, \ 7eggs on the wall. throw one more egg, \ 8eggs on the 11:11:43 -!- shikhin has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 11:11:51 `` yes 'eggs on the wall. throw one more egg,' | nl 11:11:52 ​ 1eggs on the wall. throw one more egg, \ 2eggs on the wall. throw one more egg, \ 3eggs on the wall. throw one more egg, \ 4eggs on the wall. throw one more egg, \ 5eggs on the wall. throw one more egg, \ 6eggs on the wall. throw one more egg, \ 7eggs on the wall. throw one more egg, \ 8eggs on the 11:12:03 hm seem synonymous 11:12:44 hellö́rjan. 11:13:25 holy fungot there are yesses everywhere... 11:13:25 boily: i was just talking to fnord himself talk about esoteric 11:13:27 doboily dyen (too lazy for gucharmap) 11:13:40 bon matint-e! 11:14:15 `poulet 11:14:23 No output. 11:14:28 `cat bin/poulet 11:14:29 ​#!/bin/sh \ echo "$@" 11:15:01 -!- int-e has left ("FREAKED OUT CHICKEN"). 11:15:01 -!- int-e has joined. 11:18:52 `` (echo '#!/bin/bash'; echo 'print_args_or_input "$@" | tr a-z A-Z | sed '"'"'s/$/ CHICKEN/'"'") >bin/poulet 11:18:57 No output. 11:19:08 `poulet updated 11:19:08 UPDATED CHICKEN 11:19:35 oh. oooooh. OOOOOOOH! :D 11:20:16 `poulet ooooooooooooooh 11:20:17 OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH CHICKEN 11:20:49 speaking of chicken, the first thing I'll be doing at work is to rename the method I wrote yesterday. 11:21:18 too risky name? 11:22:24 nothing shameful, only something like 'private Mesh computeSideChicken(List startLine, List endLine)'. 11:22:43 OKAY 11:23:12 the famous side chicken 11:23:26 I usually name things like computeOrenIsAwesome 11:23:42 return true? 11:23:45 lol 11:24:47 I 11:25:02 -!- boily has quit (Quit: LATERAL CHICKEN). 11:25:34 `` run ls wisdom/*list 11:25:34 bash: run: command not found 11:25:39 `` ls wisdom/*list 11:25:47 wisdom/bdsmreclist \ wisdom/danddreclist \ wisdom/list \ wisdom/olist \ wisdom/slist 11:25:56 `? slist 11:26:09 Update notification for the webcomic Homestuck. 11:26:40 hm Sgeo_ wanted a general mpsa one? 11:26:48 oh well. 11:27:13 *mspa 11:27:14 Also I use label names like hell: heaven: rome: 11:27:46 rome: is a good label name for a place where all control flows converge 11:27:58 all roads goto rome; 11:28:19 -!- zadock has joined. 11:32:29 fungot: you don't _need_ a kaiser roll with coffee, you know. 11:32:29 oerjan: ' ( 1))) this is a barbarian buyer 11:32:48 i think fungot disagrees 11:32:48 oerjan: consider that ( name. args) 11:33:44 -!- shikhin_ has changed nick to shikhin. 11:33:44 ^style 11:33:44 Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube 11:37:34 -!- AndoDaan_ has joined. 11:37:45 -!- AndoDaan has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 11:40:17 -!- _AndoDaan_ has joined. 11:43:29 [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move_redir * Oerjan * moved [[User:$M@]] to [[User:SMA]] over redirect: User pages cannot be renamed, they have other data connected 11:44:13 -!- AndoDaan_ has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 11:45:40 oerjan, I forgot which one was HS 11:47:34 http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/48931/make-the-largest-infinity-that-you-can aaah 11:48:15 [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Oerjan * deleted "[[User talk:Esolang account]]": Redirect created by someone other than the user themselves 11:52:36 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:53:06 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 11:54:11 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:54:40 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 11:56:48 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:57:17 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 11:58:22 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:58:50 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 12:05:35 [wiki] [[User talk:Esowiki201529A]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42716&oldid=42616 * Oerjan * (+397) /* Disruptive edits */ Don't rename user pages either 12:17:11 -!- Patashu_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 12:19:48 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 12:27:10 -!- llue has joined. 12:30:52 -!- lleu has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 12:34:25 -!- nszceta has quit (Max SendQ exceeded). 12:35:29 -!- nszceta has joined. 12:45:48 -!- zadock has quit (Quit: Leaving). 12:48:35 [wiki] [[Alphabetti spaghetti]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=42717 * Mazeman * (+1441) Created page with "Alphabetti spaghetti is an esoteric programming language invented in 2015 by an anonymous user. 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The correct title is talk page. 13:00:46 oerjan: also are we sure esowikiblahblah isn't esolang account? 13:01:14 well no, but if so e should do the redirect from that account. 13:01:26 so far, it hasn't done anything. 13:01:48 right I just tend to avoid being pedantic about things like that when it seems highly likely 13:01:53 but I guess in this case it's hard to tell 13:02:06 for instance what about when someone forgets their password 13:02:20 the account must exist, since it has a contributions link 13:02:34 [wiki] [[Language list]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42718&oldid=42645 * Mazeman * (+27) /* A */ 13:02:44 * oerjan just tested that a random name doesn't. 13:03:12 I know 13:03:24 if only I still had DB access I'd just compare the emails 13:03:36 fizzie: don't you think I deserve DB access?!?!?! 13:03:48 it's like, uh. whatever wikimedia calls that permission level. 13:04:14 [wiki] [[Alphabetti spaghetti]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42719&oldid=42717 * Mazeman * (+181) 13:04:50 [wiki] [[Alphabetti spaghetti]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42720&oldid=42719 * Mazeman * (-1) /* Syntax */ 13:04:51 isn't there some way to find out when a user registered 13:05:21 -!- _AndoDaan_ has quit (Quit: Going, going, gone.). 13:05:27 it seems not to count on the activity page 13:05:46 -!- _AndoDaan_ has joined. 13:07:18 ah the user list can be sorted by creation 13:07:22 probably 13:07:28 the log probably got cleared at some point 13:07:30 between graue and fizzie 13:08:15 esowiki* joined on january 9 13:09:18 7 september 2011 for the other 13:11:15 i cannot seem to convince it to list around that date 13:11:18 or hm 13:12:48 * oerjan skips spam 500 accounts at a time 13:13:09 holy shit february 2012 13:13:37 also january 13:14:30 There is no user_email set for either account hth 13:14:32 and december 13:15:16 * oerjan notes spammers grabbing a lot of 2-letter account 13:15:18 *0s 13:15:19 *+ 13:16:29 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in). 13:18:05 the account was registered at about the time the spam started picking up severely 13:18:36 -!- conehead has joined. 13:18:36 -!- conehead has quit (Changing host). 13:18:36 -!- conehead has joined. 13:20:34 [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Oerjan * deleted "[[User:WLaquitaCuevasa]]": Spam: content was: "PHP is usually a really popular Web programming language. It really is approximated that it's got now about 5 million developers across the world. Possessing PHP help php on google app engine can mean a lot of possibilities for PHP devel..." 13:20:38 * oerjan deletes 3 year old spam 13:21:37 -!- _AndoDaan_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 13:22:15 [wiki] [[Special:Log/block]] block * Oerjan * blocked [[User:WLaquitaCuevasa]] with an expiry time of indefinite (autoblock disabled): Spamming links to external sites 13:23:16 hm SMA was also around that time 13:32:51 -!- myname99 has joined. 13:33:08 :t let f = \(p :: Proxy Proxy) -> typeRep p in f 13:33:09 Typeable Proxy => Proxy Proxy -> TypeRep 13:33:19 gah 13:57:51 -!- AndoDaan has joined. 14:04:05 -!- `^_^v has joined. 14:14:41 -!- myname99 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 14:16:32 -!- TieSoul has changed nick to DootBot. 14:18:58 :k Proxy 14:19:00 k -> * 14:19:26 Mmhmm. 14:19:43 :t let x :: forall a. a -> Bool; x = x in x x 14:19:44 Bool 14:38:31 -!- AndoDaan has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 14:38:38 -!- Warrigal has changed nick to tswett. 14:39:25 -!- supereman16 has joined. 14:41:55 -!- DootBot has changed nick to TieSoul. 14:42:31 -!- variable has joined. 14:44:27 -!- guydreich has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 14:45:12 -!- b_jonas has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 14:49:44 -!- supereman16 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 14:56:24 -!- variable has changed nick to trout. 15:11:58 -!- GeekDude has joined. 15:12:10 -!- oren has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 15:13:46 -!- oren has joined. 15:38:30 -!- Insipid has joined. 15:43:00 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 15:43:54 -!- Insipid has left. 16:08:55 -!- HMC_A_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:12:11 -!- zadock has joined. 16:13:33 -!- AndoDaan has joined. 16:18:50 -!- bb010g has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 16:28:45 @wn hello 16:28:46 *** "hello" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" 16:28:46 hello 16:28:46 n 1: an expression of greeting; "every morning they exchanged 16:28:46 polite hellos" [syn: {hello}, {hullo}, {hi}, {howdy}, {how- 16:28:46 do-you-do}] 16:32:13 -!- lambdabot has quit (Quit: brb). 16:36:30 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 16:36:46 -!- lambdabot has joined. 16:42:59 @wn int 16:43:01 No match for "int". 16:51:36 -!- lambdabot has quit (Quit: sorry, let's try this again). 16:56:15 -!- lambdabot has joined. 16:59:12 @wn too much 16:59:12 Sorry, look up one word at a time please. 17:02:40 -!- zadock has quit (Quit: Leaving). 17:10:37 -!- shikhin_ has joined. 17:11:12 -!- shikhin has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 17:11:33 -!- shikhin_ has changed nick to shikhin. 17:15:04 -!- PinealGlandOptic has joined. 17:16:17 @wn a 17:16:28 *** "a" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" 17:16:28 A 17:16:28 n 1: a metric unit of length equal to one ten billionth of a 17:16:28 meter (or 0.0001 micron); used to specify wavelengths of 17:16:28 electromagnetic radiation [syn: {angstrom}, {angstrom 17:16:30 [16 @more lines] 17:17:42 @all-dict a 17:17:43 *** "a" gcide "The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48" 17:17:43 Gastropoda \Gas*trop"o*da\, n. pl., [NL., fr. Gr. ?, ?, stomach 17:17:43 + -poda.] (Zool.) 17:17:43 One of the classes of Mollusca, of great extent. It includes 17:17:45 most of the marine spiral shells, and the land and 17:17:47 [592 @more lines] 17:26:28 -!- AndoDaan has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 17:28:25 -!- zadock has joined. 17:30:49 -!- ais523 has joined. 17:36:20 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 17:37:49 -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:38:45 -!- bb010g has joined. 17:39:03 -!- ais523 has joined. 17:46:45 so, I came to the conclusion that compilers aren't as good at generating asm as people think they are 17:47:24 How good do people think they are? 17:47:39 here's a fun one I came across today: http://sprunge.us/JESG 17:47:47 try that with gcc -O2, then try with -O3 for a comparison 17:47:58 Did you see http://cr.yp.to/talks/2015.04.16/slides-djb-20150416-a4.pdf the other day? 17:48:04 on my laptop (gcc 4.9.1), the -O3 solution is hilariously bad 17:48:08 and no, I didn't 17:51:21 is that something requires lex or yacc or whatever 17:51:54 What's the -O3 solution? 17:52:03 quintopia: nope, it looks self-contained at a glance 17:52:06 quintopia: I've been working on a yacc impl 17:52:52 this is the -O3 implementation: http://sprunge.us/XGef 17:52:53 nice one. 17:53:10 I'm not even convinced it beats -O0 17:53:34 basically gcc sees that I'm trying to load 128 contiguous bits from memory, thinks "ooh, I'll load them into a 128-bit register!" 17:53:47 tough one. *counts instructions* 12 instead of 2? 17:53:49 then can't figure out what to do with them after that and has to put them /back/ into memory to be able to put them into the return value registers 17:54:25 I suppose it beats the -O0 one, but it's really quite awful :) 17:54:38 and now, because it's spilling 128 bits onto the stack 17:54:44 it goes and adds a stack canary to the function 17:55:18 and decides to spill the 128-bit register into a different memory location so that it isn't clobbered by the stack canary 17:55:22 which makes even less sense 17:55:51 ais523: An alternative theory: There might be a temporary on the stack in either case (there certainly is one in the -O0 version), but only the -O2 version manages to eliminate it, because it doesn't "optimize" the memory transfer. 17:56:42 I think the problem is that gcc is starting off with temporaries and then trying to find places to put them 17:56:49 In any case it's a nice example. 17:57:12 clang gets it right at -O3, which is what I'd expect for an llvm-based compiler 17:57:13 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 17:57:20 I have an even nicer example somewhere 17:57:33 -!- nszceta has quit (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 17:58:03 the -O0 -fomit-frame-pointer version looks pretty straightforward: copy struct to temporary on stack, then load the temporary into registers for returning it. 17:58:36 here: http://sprunge.us/BVKG 17:58:43 the source is a little complex 17:58:46 but the output is just inexplicable 17:59:11 I think that was -Os, from memory 18:00:06 clang gets that one right too 18:03:49 bleh, neither gcc nor clang have figured out how to optimize out yyvalid in ayacc's output 18:05:43 -!- trn has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 18:06:29 -!- trn has joined. 18:13:45 DJB touches a crucial point... fully exploiting modern hardware requires specific algorithms (and the designer will work in terms of keeping various parts (say, integer and floating point units) busy, caches populated, etc...); doing that directly in assembly languyage is easier than fighting an optimizing compiler. 18:14:24 Touches? Isn't that his main point? 18:14:52 But I don't think that optimizing compilers are dying. 18:14:54 Well, that and that the specific algorithms will take a larger and larger percentage of CPU time. 18:16:29 I think it's a bit silly to say that CPUs keep getting faster, so we don't need to worry about optimizing compilers at all. 18:16:53 A lot of the things that make CPUs faster in hardware are the sorts of things that an optimizing compiler does in software 18:16:54 Yes, you'll optimize the hell out of the hotspots, but you still want the remaining code to be fast. Or prototypes of new algorithms... 18:19:13 -!- ais523 has quit. 18:22:28 (Perhaps I have written too many combinatorial search programs, where each program has a hot spot, but it looks different every for each program. Which means writing it in assembler is not going to worth my time, but I appreciate every speedup that I can get "for free" by using an optimizing compiler.) 18:22:46 s/every // 18:24:26 int-e: did you see our primes program in Haskell? 18:26:27 nope 18:26:34 at least I don't think so 18:26:42 > let f='.';o c(x:y)=x:c y;z c(x:y)=f:c y;p n='p':ap fix p(o.n)in f:f:p z 18:26:44 "..pp.p.p...p.p...p.p...p.....p.p.....p...p.p...p.....p.....p.p.....p...p.p.... 18:26:58 i added it to the AIT git repo 18:27:06 -!- tswett has quit (Changing host). 18:27:06 -!- tswett has joined. 18:27:48 one day i'd like to see a bit- optimizing haskell-to-blc compiler that reproduces the blc program from Haskell 18:29:07 although for some program the typing requirement is going to get in the way:( 18:29:44 may need to use a haskell variant with optional typing 18:29:56 Hey, I don't suppose I could get clog to log this IRC channel I just created? 18:30:23 Who would I even talk to about that? 18:40:02 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 18:41:39 -!- AndoDaan has joined. 18:48:07 -!- nszceta has joined. 18:52:41 -!- augur has quit (Quit: Leaving...). 18:55:49 -!- nszceta_ has joined. 18:57:35 tswett: you'd want to use glogbot instead 18:57:56 Who's that? 18:57:59 -!- nszceta has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 19:06:09 tswett, glogbot is Gregor's logging bot 19:06:15 the logs are at codu.org/logs 19:13:13 -!- augur has joined. 19:15:42 Yes, those logs do look snazzy. 19:16:48 why is there gcc 5.1 ? 19:17:00 where is 5.0? 19:17:47 Gregor: hey, how would you feel about logging #lepwick? 19:18:18 izabera: https://gcc.gnu.org/develop.html#num_scheme 19:18:43 oh 19:18:45 ok 19:19:26 Am I allowed to send messages to #esoteric without being in it? 19:19:41 I'm thinking yes. 19:19:59 I intend to use this ability for the sole purpose of confusing everyone and causing distress and despair. 19:20:17 tswett_: how nasty. 19:20:32 I know, right? 19:20:42 (funny, irssi autocompletes that nick regardless of it not being present) 19:21:14 I wondered for a moment how come your message wasn't showing up on my screen. 19:21:27 The answer is, of course, somewhat obvious. 19:21:33 tswett_: this is hurting you more than me 19:21:54 Who says it's hurting anyone? 19:26:01 Let me tell you what I intend to do with my amazing new powers of mischief. 19:35:55 tswett: just /invite glogbot there 19:36:07 Is that how it works? 19:36:23 Sweet. Thanks. 19:36:27 no. I made it up to sabotage you 19:54:19 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 20:17:28 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 20:21:12 -!- nszceta_ has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com). 20:21:55 -!- elisa17 has joined. 20:44:38 -!- elisa17 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 20:48:38 -!- zadock has quit (Quit: Leaving). 21:00:09 -!- Patashu has joined. 21:07:39 -!- ais523 has joined. 21:12:09 -!- daria has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 21:14:59 https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-5.1.0/jit/intro/tutorial05.html 21:16:14 I need to do things in programming languages that aren't Haskell or esoteric (or both) at some point 21:18:10 -!- AndoDaan_ has joined. 21:21:32 -!- AndoDaan has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 21:21:48 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 21:22:46 -!- Patashu has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 21:26:07 tromp: I've done something horrible to compile a non-trivial part of Haskell to BLC :) http://sprunge.us/jead and an example: http://sprunge.us/KWRb 21:26:35 (non-optimizing, proof of concept quality at best) 21:28:05 int-e, ooh, nice! 21:29:50 wow, that looks awesome. much shorter than i expected! 21:30:55 How hard would that be to adapt into a Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download thingy? 21:31:03 My motivation was to leverage ghc's desugaring for function definitions by pattern matching. 21:32:37 (which will not work nicely yet because of the missing case in mkCase') 21:33:57 Taneb: from the looks of it it's just a matter of pretty-printing. 21:34:10 s/from/by/ 21:34:16 int-e, I believe the languages only differ in syntax and IO convention 21:34:38 in your Sample, how do the various constructors map to blc? 21:34:40 the code knows nothing about the IO convention. 21:35:09 -!- oerjan has joined. 21:35:22 -!- ais523 has quit. 21:35:26 -!- callforjudgement has joined. 21:35:31 tromp: church-encoding. data X = A x y | B has A x y = \a b -> a x y; B = \a b -> b 21:35:45 -!- callforjudgement has changed nick to ais523. 21:36:13 i see, so Digit will in fact map to the right booleans 21:36:20 so data Bool = True | False does the right thing, but List suffers from lack of Nil. 21:40:00 right; that's gonna be a challenge to fit in 21:40:35 i guess you want syntactive support for lists as well 21:40:44 syntactic 21:41:02 Is there a nicer way to encode let a = a'; b = b' in e than doing (\x. x x) (\x. (\a b p. p a' b') (x x (\a b. a)) (x x (\a b. b)) (\a b. e)? 21:42:33 where a' and b' both refer to a and b? 21:42:38 yes 21:43:07 good question! 21:43:26 not that i know of 21:43:27 hmm, that's missing a ) 21:44:36 -!- `^_^v has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 21:44:50 i guess you'd have to peruse some functional compiler construction texts to discover 21:45:48 It's not too bad, ghc also does the SCC decomposition for me. 21:46:34 what's SCC? 21:46:52 So as awful as the code I wrote is (really, I want to rewrite it from scratch), it looks like a plugin is a *really* quick way to get to the interesting bits of the translation. 21:47:11 strongly connected component (in the dependency graph induced by let bindings) 21:47:35 -!- callforjudgement has joined. 21:47:37 -!- ais523 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 21:47:42 bleh, and I probably missed the answer, too 21:47:44 -!- callforjudgement has changed nick to ais53. 21:47:46 -!- ais53 has changed nick to ais523. 21:48:35 answer to what, or did i miss your question 21:49:03 yes, plugin seems to be the way to go to avoid a huge codebase, and to get the full benefits of an evolving ghc 21:51:13 oerjan: what "SCC" expands to 21:52:04 strongly connected component hth 21:52:37 supreme court of canada hth 21:52:57 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 21:53:22 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:53:51 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 21:54:34 hmm, I was thinking about canadian politics recently 21:54:40 during a conversation about the royal family 21:54:45 I haven't followed it in ages 21:54:55 anything particularly stupid happen recently? or has it been calm? 21:54:58 Do I have connection issues? 21:55:17 Sgeo_: yes, but nowhere near as bad as mine 21:55:48 ais523, someone tried renaming a userpage 21:55:58 I noticed, but I think oerjan fixed it 21:56:17 I think it counts as a particularly stupid thing though 21:56:20 I think that's the user who keeps on coming up with creative new ways to screw up the wiki 21:57:23 yep 21:57:49 oh, if a ghc plugin is as easy as that looks, I might actually get going on jonguilexiphonaugh some day 21:58:35 ais523: elections in two provinces 21:58:39 PEI isn't making much news 21:58:49 we have general elections coming up in the UK 21:58:51 but the PCs are probably going to lose in Alberta, which is a big deal 21:59:07 they're polling in third place, which is insane. 21:59:09 They're behind the NDP 21:59:18 what's the likely result? coalition? 21:59:27 given that Alberta is usually considered the most conservative province, this is insane. 21:59:31 Wildrose minority I think 21:59:50 we're kind-of coalition-crazy in the UK because there's an election coming up and the polls say that no party's likely to get a majority, again 22:00:02 but not just that, most of the plausible coalitions also are unlikely to get majorities 22:00:25 and I'm stuck trying to figure out where to vote to get the best possible result for me 22:00:38 coalition's unlikely. The governing party lies ideologically very firmly between the other two. Neither opposition party will likely want to coalition with them because they're politically toxic, and they likely won't coalition with each other 22:00:42 far more likely is a Wildrose minority 22:01:23 that makes sense, although you need at least some concessions in a minority government 22:01:29 to prevent no confidence votes knocking you out 22:01:45 the current coalition wanted to push no-confidence up to 66% but that didn't go through 22:01:49 so it's still at 50% 22:02:09 good 22:02:13 that would have been insanely stupid 22:03:10 -!- callforjudgement has joined. 22:03:13 the best poll analysis out there predicts the governing party reduced to 10/87 seats 22:03:17 also the Queen has final say over who the Prime Minister is (the check on this is that her choice can be immediately no-confidenced out), and unlike most of the royal powers, has actually used it on occasion 22:03:35 10/87's a pretty small minority government 22:03:36 callforjudgement: as late as the 60s, it was expected to be used 22:03:45 -!- ais523 has quit (Disconnected by services). 22:03:46 -!- callforjudgement has changed nick to ais523. 22:03:50 I don't expect they'll survive 22:03:57 more likely they'll prop up a Wildrose or NDP government 22:04:22 ideally would be if policies were decided on a case by case basis, rather than party lines 22:04:22 probably wildrose because Canadians, especially Albertans, get itchy about the governing party not having the lead in seats 22:04:34 but that doesn't really work for the budget 22:04:52 ais523: I think it was the Cons in Britain that didn't elect their own party leader when in government in the 60s and actually expected the monarch to make the choice 22:05:43 -!- callforjudgement has joined. 22:05:50 -!- ais523 has quit (Disconnected by services). 22:05:52 -!- callforjudgement has changed nick to ais523. 22:06:16 < coppro> ais523: I think it was the Cons in Britain that didn't elect their own party leader when in government in the 60s and actually expected the monarch to make the choice 22:06:43 considering how party leadership debates in the UK often go, I think that was a sensible decision 22:07:54 All UK politicians suck 22:08:29 the snp seems to be able to find good ones for whatever reason 22:08:55 Well I don't think we can vote for the SNP to rule over England 22:09:06 not really, some of the SNP people are reasonably awful too 22:09:23 FreeFull: that's what a Labour vote may work out as, there's huge debate about whether Labour + SNP will happen 22:09:46 obviously, but both salmond and sturgeon are very good at what they do 22:09:47 it's one of the most plausible combinations for which the numbers have a chance of working out, even though Labour would probably be fools to accept it 22:10:22 the scenario i keep hearing is labour/snp confidence vote, then labour majority government 22:10:41 neither party wants a coalition, especially not after the last one 22:10:49 *labour minority 22:11:17 it could be labour minority propped up by SNP possibly 22:11:27 Phantom_Hoover: you mean labour uses the SNP to confidence out whoever else tries to form a government? 22:11:29 It's gonna be interesting, no matter what, I think 22:11:52 ais523, more or less, idk the exact workings 22:11:56 hmm, is there a good site to get latest predictions from? 22:12:01 I dunno for the UK 22:12:06 for canada it's threehundredeight.com 22:12:16 you want a site that analyzes polls because a lot can go wrong 22:12:31 yes, and different sites can come up with very different results 22:12:42 sometimes it's just best to check bookie's odds because they have a financial incentive to be right 22:13:41 i've heard the caveat a few times that bookies have an incentive to predict the perception of the outcome more than the outcome itself 22:13:41 I get the feeling that the liberals don't want to be in a coalition this time around, but will probably do it anyway if they have to 22:13:56 -!- oren has quit (Quit: Lost terminal). 22:14:06 \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ stretching 22:14:16 a liberal/tory coalition is not really feasible from any of the polls i've seen 22:14:31 I could give you pretty accurate predictions for the Finnish parliamentary election 2015. 22:14:34 (But only because they already counted the votes and published the results last weekend.) 22:14:35 they're like two dozen seats short of a majority 22:14:57 Phantom_Hoover: the DUP will make up some of that, I'm pretty sure they'd have no objection to being part of that coaltion 22:15:02 but they'll still be short even adter that 22:15:58 what i really love about this election 22:16:27 is that during the AV referendum people argued FPTP is good because it guarantees a strong majority government 22:16:50 Phantom_Hoover: and they said that despite having a coalition government from an FPTP vote 22:17:21 the problem is, that none of the major parties are really electable atm, and none of the minor parties are either 22:17:52 I predict more success for minor parties than before, maybe the greens will get two seats this time for instance 22:18:07 i love how small ukip's actual gains are looking to be 22:18:19 for all the media attention they got 22:19:35 they are going to gain, though, unfortunately 22:20:10 although, hmm 22:20:18 I think their gain will be quite spread out 22:20:25 in a way you sort-of want them to be a big enough part of the government to become permanently unelectable 22:20:33 but I'm not sure we'd survive the intervening years 22:20:51 ais523, if UKIP get into government I am activating my increasingly terrible back up plan 22:20:53 they're polling at like 4 seats 22:21:25 4 is believable 22:21:39 Taneb: hmm, do I want to know what this is/ 22:21:53 anyway, I'm still undecided on how to vote 22:21:57 i imagine that after 5 years of political irrelevance the wave will break and their vote will collapse 22:21:59 ais523, use the fact that I am dual national to go live in Australia 22:22:05 both in terms of "who do I want to run the country" and "what vote maximizes the chance of this" 22:22:07 just look at how big a deal the bnp were 10 years ago 22:22:18 *5 years ag 22:22:20 o 22:23:00 they got a few council seats, and that was it I think? 22:23:26 meanwhile, UKIP did hugely well at the European elections, but that's probably going to be their last major success 22:24:06 actually I'd sort-of like to see a conservative+labour coalition, but the chances of that happening are basically 0 22:24:11 even though they'd have easily enough seats 22:24:15 they hate each other too much 22:24:15 It amuses me that a lot of the UKIPish parties throughout Europe refuse to work with each other in Europarl 22:24:27 Taneb: yep, UKIP refusing to work with the Front National, for instance 22:24:39 they basically all don't want to be associated with each other, because they're trying to look respectable 22:24:48 and consider each other to be disrespectable 22:24:53 iirc that led to the left block getting power 22:25:24 that makes perfect sense, actually 22:26:40 -!- boily has joined. 22:27:38 i got poll cards for both leamington and edinburgh north, i think i'll probably vote in leamington since it's a tory marginal and edinburgh north's polling a 14-point snp lead 22:27:58 plus i also get to avoid the awkward topic of the snp with my dad when i next see him 22:28:22 I have poll cards for York Outer and Hexham, and by broadly similar reasoning I'll only be voting in the former 22:28:25 I thought you had to say which place you were voting in in advance? 22:28:28 to stop you voting in both? 22:28:43 ais523, university students have weird rules 22:28:48 And can actually vote in both 22:29:02 wait, really? 22:29:07 Yeah 22:29:11 one person, one vote, surely? 22:29:20 i looked it up the other day, i was under the impression that-- yeah 22:29:27 Unless you're a university student living away from home 22:29:37 -!- mitchs_ has joined. 22:29:52 http://www.aboutmyvote.co.uk/register-to-vote/students 22:29:56 -!- mitchs has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 22:30:05 "It is a criminal offence to vote twice in a UK general election." 22:30:17 (bold as in original) 22:30:41 Huh 22:31:00 That is different to what I recall 22:31:05 i had a friend tell me the same thing so this is obviously a common urban legend 22:31:11 it says you can vote in both local elections 22:31:22 but only in one general election constituency 22:31:27 which would allow you to use both poll cards 22:32:27 i'm not sure about notifying ahead of time though 22:32:38 i applied for a postal vote in edinburgh, maybe that means i have to vote there 22:33:10 "Once you've used your postal vote you can't change your mind and vote at a polling station." 22:33:13 -!- S1 has joined. 22:33:20 so i guess if you don't actually use it you're OK 22:33:23 Phantom_Hoover: I believe that's "used" rather than "applied for", though 22:33:40 I know that a while ago, we had to hand-deliver a postal vote to a polling station, because it hadn't been posted in time 22:33:53 -!- S1 has left. 22:33:53 which is another weird variant on that 22:37:14 Well, this'll be the first general election I've voted n 22:39:02 -!- staffehn has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:42:04 -!- staffehn has joined. 22:45:39 I am not very good at writing a CV 22:46:27 Perhaps you should write a version control system instead. 22:46:59 Taneb: Tanelle. is it written with LaTeX? 22:47:12 boily, the LaTeX is the easier part 22:47:18 And I am still not very good at it 22:48:50 -!- bb010g has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 22:49:31 Taneb: have you seen the eurocard thing? 22:49:39 I have not! 22:49:42 it's a european standard for CVs, the same way that PAX is a POSIX standard for tarballs 22:49:52 I've been considering using it but nobody's asked me for a CV yet 22:50:08 could be worse. I'm not even European! 22:50:15 ais523, do you have a link? 22:50:48 apparently I misremembered the name 22:50:53 so possibly not 22:51:21 Europass 22:51:22 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europass 22:51:44 Thanks! 22:55:41 -!- callforjudgement has joined. 22:55:54 -!- ais523 has quit (Disconnected by services). 22:55:55 -!- callforjudgement has changed nick to ais523. 23:03:38 Well, goodnight! :) 23:10:28 -!- shikhin_ has joined. 23:11:30 -!- shikhin has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 23:12:20 -!- shikhin_ has changed nick to shikhin. 23:18:05 -!- ais523 has quit. 23:22:31 helloily 23:24:50 quinthellopia! 23:25:13 you always disappear before responding to me 23:25:19 thx 23:25:27 sorry >_>'... 23:26:26 what would be a good project to refresh my c skills 23:26:57 see Project Euler 23:27:08 nah 23:27:27 hack the Linux kernel 23:27:32 those usually dont require much dynamic memory allocationx 23:27:44 i hate os stuf 23:28:12 hmm... mmmh... what would make an interesting small C project? 23:28:13 write a brainfuck interpreter that dynamically assigns the tape as it's needed 23:28:22 fungot: do you have inspirational ideas? 23:28:22 boily: but hey... whatever floats your boat") in my old days. fnord 23:28:29 fungot: go boat yourself. 23:28:29 boily: the optimizing run.c was not ready for prime time :) :) :) :) :) 23:28:41 quintopia: what about an IRC bot? 23:28:48 * boily glares at fungot 23:28:48 boily: but of course. i know what to do with antpony. 23:28:55 HTTP server. 23:28:57 quintopia: and call it antpony. 23:29:03 gopher server 23:29:16 ¿porqué no los dos? 23:29:23 an IRC/gopher server! 23:29:30 ^ 23:29:41 (I highly doubt the usefulness of the thing, but we're in #esöteric.) 23:30:00 The great thing about an HTTP server is, simple ones are in fact quite easy. 23:31:04 indeed. I managed to get one running on an Arduino without too much hassle. 23:31:16 serving .png was harder than the HTTP part! 23:32:23 Doing HTTP *well* is tricky, but you can get it functional with much, much less. 23:32:28 Even if you're doing HTTP/1.1. 23:32:47 huh 23:33:02 what would a gopherbot do? 23:33:16 Admittedly an HTTP/1.1 server that does Connection: close for everything kinda sucks, but it's valid. 23:33:39 -!- TieSoul_ has joined. 23:33:40 quintopia: good question. 23:35:21 -!- TieSoul has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 23:35:25 -!- NotSoul has joined. 23:36:00 [wiki] [[Matrix]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42721&oldid=42151 * Paul2520 * (-1) /* Language Overview */ fixed typo 23:39:06 -!- TieSoul_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 23:43:11 -!- creationBlues has joined. 23:54:31 [wiki] [[Element]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=42722&oldid=42669 * Phi * (+493) added more examples