< 1435622630 223911 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435622986 49938 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arright, now rustc is giving me a .a file instead of a .so file. < 1435623036 824670 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the linker complains that it can't find the boot_main symbol, and sure enough, there's no boot_main symbol inside the kernel.o in the .a file. < 1435623545 602109 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooooo. I think I probably got it to find boot_main, because now it's outputting too many error messages to fit in my backscroll. < 1435624708 555623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom tdnh < 1435624716 764698 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :glumgot/glumgot is not a particularly bad swear word, but is still disquieting. < 1435625620 15840 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tdnh < 1435625621 198984 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh does not help < 1435625623 768595 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435625624 924831 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flagpole/A flagpole is like a tadpole, but with a flag on top. < 1435625631 681257 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mapole < 1435625633 399382 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. < 1435625655 208590 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? thwackamacallit < 1435625655 991995 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A thwackamacallit is like a whatchamacallit, but more painful. See mapole. < 1435625661 521117 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? whatchamacallit < 1435625662 179336 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatchamacallit? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435625689 702971 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn whatchamacallit/A whatchamacallit is like a thwackamacallit, but less painful. < 1435625693 669915 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «whatchamacallit» < 1435625967 115312 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:898f:dd1:4719:d990 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435626481 548924 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435626690 178902 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435626697 58377 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom dnh < 1435626699 969375 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eliot/Eliot inverted cats, then Taneb stole his inversion. < 1435626725 461286 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: too much symmetry tdnh < 1435626772 236572 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "is like" is a symmetric relation, and "more" and "less" are inverse relations. < 1435626800 7323 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, last night I think I was thinking about... the... category of commutative monoids? < 1435626828 764454 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :For that category, the sum and the product are the same thing, right? < 1435627162 388406 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435627224 857611 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1435627302 654638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know? < 1435627648 507132 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435627658 236864 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435627839 945816 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435628375 155923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1435628634 931009 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that was productive day... spent half the day struggling to get a VPN to connect < 1435628686 405292 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:898f:dd1:4719:d990 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've all been there oren. < 1435628696 934443 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:898f:dd1:4719:d990 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spent my entire Tuesday trying to get an LED to turn on. < 1435628971 829739 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you tried turning it off and on again? < 1435628989 73716 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1435629068 557457 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well eventually it worked, I think they may have had to reboot the other end, in California < 1435629095 687197 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: TRISKELION CHICKEN < 1435629105 999289 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something. Someone in California solved it, at any rate < 1435629504 491024 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw a thing about branch prediction, what's the best thing to learn to learn about things like that < 1435630151 940241 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enchanted creature gets -1/+2, can block any number of creatures, and gains "At the beginning of your upkeep, target opponent draws a card". < 1435631757 505129 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read in some book recently they mentioned they could make computers that are next to each other to communicate by temperatures. < 1435631973 217520 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:898f:dd1:4719:d990 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: seems like there would be quite a bit of latency. < 1435632011 284694 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435632297 890833 :ethiraric!~ethiraric@93.ip-5-196-226.eu QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1 < 1435632509 997693 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435632625 873228 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whelp, my kernel doesn't boot yet. < 1435632638 820888 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can tell qemu to boot using this ISO, but it says it has no bootable media. < 1435633072 147272 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :xorriso says that it's an El Torito image. < 1435633296 506323 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait a minute. < 1435633299 376945 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"xorriso : NOTE : Detected El-Torito boot information which currently is set to be discarded" < 1435633303 29702 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesante. < 1435633607 271219 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if the problem might have to do with extension for threading discussions? (I don't like that extension anyways and just use plain MediaWiki on my own user talk page) < 1435633612 873980 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PART :#esoteric < 1435634024 478062 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1435634552 455565 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: Windows 95 CD is not bootable < 1435634579 760494 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: I would insert a factorial function here, but that joke is probably overplayed < 1435634587 441936 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:898f:dd1:4719:d990 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: What are you supposed to do with the CD then? < 1435634605 142168 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wallacoloo, run setup.exe from an existing DOS install < 1435634894 233828 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Ttml14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43348 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+127) 10Created page with "What is the codes of Greek, Cyrillic, math symbols? --~~~~" < 1435635208 566527 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435635467 872620 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435635799 432290 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1435636753 891046 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b JOIN :#esoteric < 1435636841 164202 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hikhq < 1435636856 757130 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you solve the VPN problem in California today? < 1435636877 890733 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'm still in St Louis. < 1435636887 485669 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :A storm killed my cable modem. < 1435637208 373363 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435637282 945760 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435637521 649960 :password2!~password@197.77.88.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435638020 440450 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1435639059 665393 :password2!~password@197.77.88.42 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1435639821 796576 :password2!~password@197.77.88.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435640068 342026 :password2!~password@197.77.88.42 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435640965 717743 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gibberish/JavaScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43349&oldid=43339 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+30) 10/* See also */ < 1435641260 861274 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq im in north county, dem nados went just south of us < 1435641325 599385 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :fowl: And I'm in South County, where they went just north of us. < 1435641878 771403 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-71-52-124-237.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435642014 40622 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably the same things done with Gentzen esolang you can also do by writing it like ordinary sequent calculus notations. But, it is also can be done other way around too. < 1435642798 777068 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:898f:dd1:4719:d990 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1435642954 914716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoa whoa whoa < 1435642964 723789 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i missed yesterday < 1435643017 545720 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-71-52-124-237.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1435643147 795526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you got away with it this year < 1435643874 717653 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435643900 184999 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why doesnt sir Fungellot fnord < 1435644105 966438 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it doesn't. < 1435644769 676015 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435645012 861807 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1435645170 359110 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435646313 479623 :hilquias`!~user@179.186.84.9.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br JOIN :#esoteric < 1435646435 607857 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1435646459 193487 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1435647155 584542 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1435647390 262079 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1435649762 486855 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1435649921 579743 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hello < 1435650550 665344 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww, there is no fungot < 1435651191 675273 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :again! < 1435651217 216553 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, I haven;t been on IRC for a while < 1435651222 168491 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not since last Friday morning I think < 1435651302 4888 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how much have you forgotten? < 1435651345 991095 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to speak italian, how to get a good night sleep, that sort of thing < 1435651351 32644 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the weather here is TOO NICE < 1435651378 921482 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is 5 past nine in the morning and already 21 degrees Celsius! < 1435652810 301347 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435653226 289439 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1435653253 460768 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435653870 502148 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435654124 582672 :MoALTz_!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435654299 465099 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1435654920 256023 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord < 1435655194 802433 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1435656029 521398 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fromroman LXXXVIII < 1435656038 670429 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :88 < 1435656046 552071 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ >:88 < 1435656047 169043 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 89 < 1435656051 917160 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`toroman 89 < 1435656052 467938 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LXXXIX < 1435656099 488801 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1435656104 778196 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compress roman numerals < 1435656111 708234 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could be a good challenge :) < 1435656124 731051 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: you mean golf? we've had two or three golfs for that < 1435656128 827952 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can give you pointers < 1435656298 279142 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "delete" a reserved word in Java? < 1435656998 306950 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, I don't do java < 1435657055 948142 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no < 1435657060 606611 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1435657062 342789 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1435657110 748772 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :const and goto are reserved words < 1435657114 358722 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they have no function < 1435657130 986309 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :assert is not a reserved word in early java versions but is in current version < 1435657135 46271 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :as is striftpf and others < 1435657137 962266 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"delete" is a reserved word in C++, "del" is a reserved word in python, and "delete" is a builtin function in perl. < 1435657139 290782 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*strictfp < 1435657170 593672 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Early java versions didn't have enum as well < 1435657184 414880 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so boolean enum = false; < 1435657190 472956 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the "delete" stuff is very tricky, exactly because of what http://magiccards.info/uh/en/10.html demonstrates < 1435657224 628174 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a word you need very often, for multiple contexts. there's two or three good synonyms: "delete", "remove", "erase", but even that's not enough < 1435657259 779081 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, it is a reserved word in Thrift, which I am using to generate Java :( < 1435657262 804619 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so C++ has sort of ran out of them and is now using "remove" for I think two different things, "erase" for two different things, and "delete" for one thing < 1435657312 957659 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, maybe "remove" for three different things < 1435657390 40072 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're also using "clog" for two things but that's not because they've run out of names, but an accident of history, with the two being invented separately and later getting into one language < 1435657399 157394 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's now too late to change either < 1435659489 465716 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435659957 186772 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode R < 1435659958 180245 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0052 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER R] < 1435659961 19398 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435659961 377599 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1435659966 605857 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm? < 1435659968 595793 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode nR < 1435659969 270109 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+006E LATIN SMALL LETTER N] [U+0052 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER R] < 1435659971 545979 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HMMM < 1435659981 765880 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HMMM??? < 1435660146 909104 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I am wrong < 1435660719 920057 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... actually don't know what I was doing wrong < 1435660733 363391 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A find tool was breaking on the sequence nR until it wasn't < 1435662550 834372 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, CAO is down. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! < 1435662571 527448 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1435662577 315480 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what is CAO?) < 1435662598 782756 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ctrl Alt Oxygen? Cards Against O'Reilly?) < 1435662614 238484 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crawl Akrasiac Org. < 1435662624 178378 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is that < 1435662625 203738 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1435662633 996032 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the North American server for DCSS. < 1435662642 5507 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :DCSS? < 1435662647 465493 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup. < 1435662650 402983 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1435662864 668589 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435662865 594212 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boredom/A boredom is like a kingdom, except ruled by a bore. They don't tend to last very long before people revolt. < 1435662887 911176 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435662890 431816 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​$1?/$1? ��\(��_o)/�� < 1435662895 829183 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1435662900 371454 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lunch < 1435662901 140111 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lunch? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435663050 96317 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what's happening to the encoding there? < 1435663276 348835 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? $1 < 1435663277 141221 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​$1? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435663279 911732 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? $1? < 1435663280 760122 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​$1? ��\(��_o)/�� < 1435663299 473556 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I believe ‘$1?’ is special-cased. < 1435663729 789958 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: MILDEW CHICKEN < 1435665284 576185 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh, I'm trying to figure out a sane way to write this code < 1435665298 430073 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, what language < 1435665304 463961 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a way that won't trip me up later with mysterious undebuggable errors < 1435665306 925422 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in C++ < 1435665315 627354 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, what code? < 1435665319 60720 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what I want, I just have to get the basics right < 1435665331 739104 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some stupid wrapper class that abstracts some existing library into saner syntax < 1435665342 848773 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :only it's not just one class, but multiple classes < 1435666362 896241 :APic\splat!apic@apic.name NICK :APic < 1435667272 199037 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435667447 60687 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435667976 754338 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is making progress aaaah < 1435668402 777267 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am too, only too slowly < 1435668845 302154 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 < 1435668846 923089 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1435668912 987938 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435669313 508632 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07PokéArena14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43350&oldid=15159 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+20) 10This is an idea... < 1435669387 353770 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, more like > epsilon progress < 1435669395 538740 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be happy with > 1 < 1435669405 349441 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of Archimedean and stuff < 1435669406 234930 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, I am working with something called Epsilon < 1435669817 457754 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1435670497 113226 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, should I do this the ugly but short way, or the more explicit but longer way? < 1435670626 699839 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll do it the uglier way < 1435670844 83896 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435671662 88866 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435671671 698637 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1435671976 942160 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, I have accomplished another task and I do not know what to do now < 1435672063 186237 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, what should I have for dinner < 1435672491 919246 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435672648 781808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest ice. < 1435672665 692654 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Why must you keep pinging the timeout? < 1435672698 220609 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: http://www.schemers.org/ documents/ standards/ r5rs/ html/ fnord example works perfectly well in 0.57. you said: " error: too many levels of braces < 1435672701 696666 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: on anagol? < 1435672802 969179 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1435672835 554194 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably for large numbers just converting them to the usual 10 digits is probably already a compression scheme for roman numerals < 1435672887 9980 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: no < 1435672890 463770 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not anagol < 1435672893 403301 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for serious purposes < 1435672907 277103 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :on anagol, I'd always choose the shorter but uglier way < 1435672909 100571 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, I think mroman_ is talking about the roman numeral things < 1435672913 250533 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1435672920 809839 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about whether it's on anagol < 1435672947 861157 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I was talking about "a compression" challenge < 1435672951 351849 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a "golfing" challenge < 1435672970 921995 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's at least what I intended to talk about < 1435673517 7866 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1435674297 881818 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Make sure to clean your computer's ghost filter. < 1435674311 977826 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435674720 948064 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1435675519 851640 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435675649 287798 :hppavilion1!44eb5204@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.235.82.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435675659 20860 :hppavilion1!44eb5204@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.235.82.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC < 1435675663 13649 :hppavilion1!44eb5204@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.235.82.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm Hoo---oooom < 1435675664 260595 :hppavilion1!44eb5204@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.235.82.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e' < 1435675666 59355 :hppavilion1!44eb5204@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.235.82.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*e < 1435676102 697679 :hppavilion1!44eb5204@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.235.82.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine < 1435676106 690627 :hppavilion1!44eb5204@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.235.82.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one wants to talk < 1435676107 962608 :hppavilion1!44eb5204@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.235.82.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bai < 1435676110 553209 :hppavilion1!44eb5204@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.235.82.4 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1435676565 552284 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion1 You can always talk to fungot < 1435676565 646269 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1435676567 200909 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: oh wait, does that count?). i don't < 1435676581 901861 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: No it doesn't count. What about 'or'? < 1435676593 140808 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: where do people get off saying such things? :) ( of course, once you know programming languages where (: and :) are language tokens? can't remember. it was accessible in movie clips too. with sp2 < 1435676623 930746 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You really need to leak more details about 'or'. < 1435676651 684282 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: make some proggies ( read: googled for " stwong" but the zombies said " yes yes" < 1435676672 462811 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435678654 760244 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1435679220 205034 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91-rdmsoft [XULRunner 32.0.3/20140923175406] < 1435679791 585991 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1435681842 879064 :password2!~password@197.77.60.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435682957 978226 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435683722 584026 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435683787 637774 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435683946 911434 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Client Quit < 1435684095 627287 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435684278 985050 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1435684432 522693 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't (: and :) are tokens in Kvikkalkul? < 1435685686 546603 :password2!~password@197.77.60.204 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435685851 544406 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1435686945 317179 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1435687418 519123 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435687897 564032 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435689045 793044 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435689089 551366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1435689198 662828 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whelp, I'm pretty sure my kernel has not started booting while I was asleep. < 1435689230 956275 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435689358 340463 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1435689522 926097 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BRB < 1435689743 155598 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435689786 973142 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435689790 584200 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435689951 920805 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1435689960 98110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf < 1435689985 543211 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1435689986 497486 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fateful day a couple of days ago < 1435689989 269127 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for remembering < 1435689995 30027 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heveryonello. < 1435689998 612779 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :'( < 1435690004 28491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got chocolate cake! < 1435690012 653395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hey no one else here did hth < 1435690013 436077 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, Obergefell v. Hodges? < 1435690023 710966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that was 4 days < 1435690066 636049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although relatedly, i was born on the first anniversary of the stonewall riots < 1435690086 729277 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, awww, did I miss oerjanday? < 1435690111 926051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1435690115 567067 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1435690122 644403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was visited by family, so didn't log on much < 1435690137 550879 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come to York and I will buy you a drink or something < 1435690196 170491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhat unlikely, but thanks < 1435690263 261702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those supreme court judges don't understand timing, clearly they should have waited 2 more days. < 1435690344 776420 :singingboyo!~singingbo@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435690346 622825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was wrong with their timing < 1435690363 805808 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, just missed the anniversary of stonewall < 1435690372 43040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: imagine if the gays could have celebrated stonewall and obergefell v. hodges on the same day < 1435690396 989470 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And bi people etc < 1435690403 784868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, easy solution, just make it a 3-day celebration < 1435690418 531449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: sorry, only thought of that after pressing return < 1435690486 965548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the whole parade thing was in sf two days later < 1435690501 585858 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1435690510 253293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there was plenty of celebrating hth < 1435690516 967280 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :London Pride was around the same time too < 1435690519 317944 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435690527 742538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theonion.com/article/supreme-court-rules-favor-most-buck-wild-pride-par-50768 < 1435690616 149521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm seems the festival is on a close weekend < 1435690696 16789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this day it fell on the actual stonewall date < 1435690697 323227 :singingboyo!~singingbo@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1435690699 561106 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*year < 1435690705 779790 :singingboyo!~singingbo@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435690807 439194 :singingboyo!~singingbo@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :Client Quit < 1435690860 804966 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435690902 292889 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :Client Quit < 1435690923 469073 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435690946 736421 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435690963 474904 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now in Dungeons&Dragons game we entered an underground city and a wizard made most of us invisible. But, I have to figure out what to do, considering what kind of thing can remove the invisibility: the spell expires, attacking, anti-magic field. A bit like a game or correspondence chess we have a lot of time to figure out the plan, but unlike in chess you can't do in between each individual move < 1435691019 4493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly you should hold an aberration pride parade hth < 1435691026 975063 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, did I tell you that in the 4th ed game I am in we are hiding in a ship that was meant as our own decoy < 1435691038 723442 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any kind of parade might result in too much attention < 1435691057 428889 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I think you did < 1435691083 765759 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically because the party's wizard is a very stubborn character < 1435691091 221458 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :Client Quit < 1435691104 339461 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is fun < 1435691135 526408 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a game I am in though I exploded a ship with their own explosives before they could reach our ship < 1435691148 67526 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 5th ed game I am in, we did an encounter too quickly (in sticking-to-the-story terms) because the DM forgot that 2/3 of the party has night vision < 1435691267 195486 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :abberation pride parade hehe < 1435691288 268398 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such a parade doesn't even make much sense, and even if it did it probably won't work < 1435691315 21773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: if you come visit berkeley i will buy you a drink or something < 1435691323 219973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but most likely something, rather than a drink < 1435691328 419589 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you're really into drinks < 1435691330 740521 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, it would probably not be a good idea for sneaking in a city invisible < 1435691339 396189 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, actually I am just kind of thirsty right now < 1435691354 616850 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435691392 562824 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :Client Quit < 1435691405 536981 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435691418 293634 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, not at first. But if the situation can be made to allow such a bit unusual thing to work might result in the correct kind of distraction. That would require a lot of setting up though, and require events to come out in a certain way, which is probably not what will happen. < 1435691472 830906 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :We also had our plans to blow up a bank foiled when the bank blew up < 1435691508 741807 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1435691509 419963 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435691520 893577 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't expect I ever have needed or would need to blow up a bank though < 1435691570 64653 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were planning on framing it on one of the empires who are chasing after us < 1435691766 147124 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"one of the empires who are chasing after us" sounds funny < 1435691800 966535 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, I have ended up with a magical superweapon attached to me < 1435691808 463930 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh great, I need one more series of classes < 1435691812 38638 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1435691814 936017 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, C++ classes < 1435691849 650859 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is much desired by various nations < 1435691854 922477 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are headed to another continent < 1435691893 563940 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1435692011 321289 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Noisett14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43351&oldid=43326 5* 03EmptyJL 5* (-3) 10 < 1435692088 988810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : It is 5 past nine in the morning and already 21 degrees Celsius! <-- i take it you're already on another continent < 1435692106 394629 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The invisibility probably will not last long enough, therefore requiring hiding and sneaky and so on < 1435692108 260440 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I continue to be in York < 1435692121 216983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: impossible! < 1435692131 300101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :england is known to be always cold and wet hth < 1435692147 889492 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, didn't you hear that Yorkshire declared independence < 1435692155 224943 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1435692220 394286 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr if Yorkshire was independent it would have been in the top 10 in the 2012 olympics < 1435692334 870917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1435692368 45263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that might apply to trøndelag in the winter games < 1435692397 572482 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So trøndelag is the yorkshire of Norway? < 1435692406 735402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly < 1435692418 962459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not entirely sure what a yorkshire of norway would be < 1435692434 752085 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION --> somewhere maybe cooler < 1435692436 357554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(since i'm not entirely sure what a yorkshire of england is) < 1435692444 935886 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: there's nowhere cooler than #esoteric hth < 1435692454 816383 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The guards suggested to our two visible people (two generic human soldiers and therefore no problem to be seen and not recognized) to leave by the west passage (we entered through the north passage), but we can't because one of our party has been left behind to guard the entrance so we have to go back that way < 1435692456 148829 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I meant in temperature < 1435692463 828883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the yorkshire of england is yorkshire hth < 1435692465 141573 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is too warm < 1435692476 47925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: tdnh < 1435692485 514349 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ydnh < 1435692496 48858 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This city is also very large and may take a long time to find something. Making it too dark, waiting for nightfall, whatever, might help too though, if we can figure out how is best way < 1435692588 27065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you have not only a system of two factions against each other, but rather *five*, with complicated relations, this makes it much more confusing. < 1435692952 155669 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435693283 407055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? $1? < 1435693292 123099 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​$1? ��\(��_o)/�� < 1435693303 941111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom/$1? < 1435693305 109206 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/$1? < 1435693314 100763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/$1? < 1435693315 709641 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull ais523 ais523 Bike < 1435693329 772572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url wisdom/$1? < 1435693330 699122 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/%241%3F < 1435693381 786088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1435693395 305871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where art thou, bike < 1435693472 9575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -n 'hm... '; \? '$1?' < 1435693498 68856 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... $1? ��\(��_o)/�� < 1435693506 662470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that didn't help < 1435693558 798585 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that prevents HackEgo's zero-width space) < 1435693743 219211 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, wasn't "nitia" one of Bike's old nicks? < 1435693756 903140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1435693774 358519 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes! < 1435693782 110757 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike went by Nitya < 1435693791 950968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why I thought it was familiar tdnh < 1435693816 864566 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/I/i/ < 1435693819 655550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, bike has been absorbed into HackEgo's database < 1435693829 313659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explains why we haven't seen him < 1435697895 528449 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435698107 253045 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1435698132 186072 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris_: what happened to your old nick? < 1435698220 265283 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :my irl first name got freed up on freenode's nickserv! that's an opportunity too good to pass up < 1435698223 310165 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl NICK :mauris < 1435698250 371219 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435698251 584938 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how i chose my nick too < 1435698259 821505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i thought your first name was nooooooooodl? < 1435698263 617862 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435698284 896885 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm in this cool club with you, oerjan, elliott (rip), maybe other people here < 1435698292 670659 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only < 1435698315 535304 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :changing my first name to nooodl to make up for "mauris" already being taken on freenode would have been a very good alternative < 1435698333 437284 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: Like ingy.net did < 1435698355 265019 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Changing his name to match his domain name. < 1435698408 413503 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a pretty good name < 1435698461 560232 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a pretty horrible looking website < 1435698536 531269 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's font-family: fantasy; < 1435698558 219410 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :a very good CSS feature "i don't care what font shows up here, as long as it's ugly" < 1435698572 687080 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :font-family: eyerape; < 1435698760 871021 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own opinion is it should simply be two choices: fixed-pitch or don't-care < 1435698805 56064 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :With also an optional language parameter, so that it can select a font suitable for that language if needed < 1435698922 458027 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: There *is* a language parameter, lang: < 1435698922 672369 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm writing scary overoptimized code < 1435698952 926608 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I am just saying the font should only be decided by the language, heading level, and one flag to tell whether or not fixpitch is needed < 1435698975 479173 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately there's a couple other attributes that are appropriate, depending on the language. < 1435699021 644528 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other parameter needed though are to specify emphasis or not < 1435699064 636146 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: right, and the language parameter probably only has about four meaningful bits that are in common use (russian vs serbian; turkish vs anything else; cjk style) < 1435699065 745408 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :serif vs. sans serif for Western scripts, Mincho vs. Gothic for East Asian... < 1435699098 491964 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Serif/sans-serif/etc should be decided by the client's options instead < 1435699127 23197 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, teh sans-serif font I set up in my browser is actually a serif font < 1435699138 396123 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1435699143 572558 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: There's more linguistic variety in rendering than that. For instance, whether or not certain ligatures should be used is language-specific. < 1435699158 199946 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: can you give examples? < 1435699179 826863 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there may be other varieties, in which case I'd like to know about them < 1435699275 104933 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though minor) German does not traditionally have an "ffl" ligature. < 1435699304 769558 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok... < 1435699315 34369 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1435699359 115256 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO, in most fonts, the fi and fl ligatures are actually VERY ugly, made to differ a lot from separate fi or fl letters because an fi ligature is somehow the mark of professionalism < 1435699360 836971 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Roman alphabet text you're not going to find huge such varieties; the more common distinction is whether or not a given glyph is considered a ligature or a letter. < 1435699385 938382 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :most fonts either shouldn't have an fi or fl ligature at all, or should have one that looks almost the same as the two letters rendered separately < 1435699405 463092 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(possibly after some kerning) < 1435699462 128038 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most horrible is when the ligature appears in the ligature table of a monospaced font, so the monospaced font suddenly isn't as monospaced as you'd have thought < 1435699495 501491 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you write "fi" in such a font, and it will take only one cell, not two < 1435699498 386786 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like ligatures in monospace font < 1435699507 707321 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :2600 uses ligatures in monospace font and I don't like that < 1435699528 562290 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case the problem is that the ligature takes only one monospaced cell instead of two < 1435699550 856510 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also use smartquotes in monospace text and that also is no good < 1435699551 957691 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in any case, even if it took two cells, an "fi" ligature isn't likely to be needed in a monospaced font < 1435699584 209970 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably more *relevant* is Arabic vs. Urdu script, which has somewhat distinct glyph rendering... < 1435699588 65693 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: but isn't that an editor issue rather than a font problem? < 1435699599 841234 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Probably, yes < 1435699624 714634 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :An "fi" ligature is certainly needed in a monospaced font, but for only one reason: it has a code point (for legacy reasons). < 1435699659 852717 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, I also think that perhaps there should have been two different cyrillic scripts, not only one, instead of two different options for language-specific rendering cyrillic text, but it's definitely too late to change that now. < 1435699680 460778 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yes, but then the ligature table shouldn't turn "fi" to that code point < 1435699705 710535 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if there's a glyph for that code point < 1435699715 133698 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, certainly. That (well, or similar) is only at all appropriate in the rendering of proportional text. < 1435699792 540935 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fixed width text, the sane handling is that any given codepoint takes 0, 1, or 2 cells. < 1435700119 897388 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1435700331 915853 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google esoteric maths < 1435700334 239274 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.esotericonline.net/group/vortexmath < 1435700334 293169 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Vortex based Mathematics - Esoteric Online < 1435700358 999489 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :vortex math is so good < 1435700564 388984 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435700800 980791 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435701084 371872 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I'm writing a C++ library with lots of short inline const member functions in template classes, would it be going too far if I said #define Z ) const { return < 1435701233 385507 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-226.rentec.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435701447 753064 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-211.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435701448 463953 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's... terrible. < 1435701672 125406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gregor < 1435701675 341039 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor took forty cakes. He took 40 cakes. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible. < 1435701724 362458 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435701857 960053 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek wtf thursday forecast < 1435701882 498052 :hilquias`!~user@179.186.84.9.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435701885 661138 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm, T23:59:60Z a'comin. < 1435701907 680929 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :over the next 48 hours it will increase from a low of 13 to a high of 26 celsius < 1435701946 607160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs an acclimatization pill < 1435702007 4503 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be worse! It's 29C and humid right now! < 1435702012 30997 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and that's a normal temp here. < 1435702024 343429 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bit low, TBH) < 1435702085 197958 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only 26? < 1435702105 22483 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itks gpnna be 37chere on saturday < 1435702113 703803 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I know, right? That's comfy. < 1435702121 794480 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, no < 1435702234 49922 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, also fun: the average high in July is 31.7C. :) < 1435702268 10957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's only about 4 degrees below the norwegian maximum temperature record hth < 1435702273 8970 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the record high being a far less happiness-inducing 46C) < 1435702300 391602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the first one.) < 1435702350 47944 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The absolute highest recorded temp in the *US*, BTW, is 57C. (kill me) < 1435702377 644663 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought the death valley had the global record now, after the libyan one was discredited? < 1435702393 936598 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That probably is the global high then. < 1435702435 352487 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, it is. < 1435702546 640377 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there's Phoenix, which has on average about 100 days a year above 37C... < 1435702550 44135 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1435702611 134615 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sucks to ride a bike there, i guess < 1435702657 172203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Christopher C. Burt, the weather historian writing for Weather Underground who shepherded the Libya reading's 2012 disqualification, believes that the 1913 Death Valley reading is "a myth", and is at least four or five degrees Fahrenheit too high,[10] as do other weather historians Dr. Arnold Court and William Taylor Reid.[90] Burt proposes that the highest reliably recorded temperature on Earth is still at Death Valley, but is instead 53.9 °C ... < 1435702663 114392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... (129 °F) recorded five times [...] < 1435702722 553568 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :54 c is about the temperature where people become liquid < 1435702745 279469 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tru fax < 1435702755 981485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm fax < 1435702775 234109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't seen em in a while < 1435703089 604828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom help < 1435703090 608788 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot/No one was ever called Elliot. < 1435703167 225816 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, 53C has been recorded in Arizona as well. < 1435703169 771213 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :In 1994. < 1435703189 661483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lot of C < 1435703209 901474 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 53C < 1435703211 174654 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexham/Hexham es la ciudad mas importante de programación esotérico < 1435703955 42172 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435704001 958801 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435704068 421229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/hash* < 1435704069 244488 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/hash 2346ad27d7568ba9896f1b7da6b5991251debdf2 < 1435704092 570726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's still there because of the `revert bug. < 1435704143 840466 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom hash* < 1435704144 805714 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan/Your famous evil overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who hates Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. < 1435704145 974251 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435704147 421974 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435704177 554848 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wisdom < 1435704178 88925 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :F="$(find wisdom -type f | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}/" | rnooodl; cat "$F" | rnooodl < 1435704248 92134 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what do you think of time complexity analysis with regard to average time for an operation twh < 1435704252 651677 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever that's called < 1435704268 790087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :splendid idea, someone else should do that hth < 1435704368 781682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is shuf -n1 clever enough to only keep one line in memory? < 1435704566 428058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting question. it could obviously do so. < 1435704619 860753 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably you can implement shuf -nN with only N lines in memory. < 1435704629 289619 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a standard algorithm? < 1435704635 847354 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes < 1435704656 728099 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: in fact, there are _two_ algorithms, one known, one barely known < 1435704657 998938 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I've even read about it before. < 1435704659 823834 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me find the reference < 1435704689 788491 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, you want N lines of memory only, not runtime? < 1435704690 523643 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reservoir_sampling < 1435704694 934338 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's a simple standard algorithm < 1435704699 570608 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I read your question wrong < 1435704706 364558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did you read it as? < 1435704756 670258 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a more complicated algorithm for choosing n random indexes without repetition from a large range 1..N where N is much larger than n, < 1435704773 149866 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with not only the memory usage being O(n), but the runtime as well < 1435704831 157101 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's two algorithms for that, one described in an exercise in Knuth, the other is barely known < 1435704853 342536 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435704971 400249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shuf has some trouble being time limited since lines don't have predictable length < 1435704985 918584 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1435705018 17531 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is worth not for when you have N data represented explicitly, but when you can generate the data with a fast function from the index < 1435705054 246679 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the input data that is < 1435705311 949302 :MoALTz__!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435705437 757033 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435705509 315297 :MoALTz_!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435706034 337147 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is "shuf -n" command meaning? < 1435706280 270929 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: choose N uniform random lines of the input without repetition and in random order (unless there are fewer than N lines in the input), where N is the argument to the switch -n < 1435706325 128518 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1435706389 145772 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want one random line can you do, pick the first line with probability 1/1, replace the memory with the second line with probability 1/2, replace the memory with the third line with probability 1/3, etc < 1435706409 810530 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, that's how it works < 1435706450 655023 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the algorithm for shuf -n is so famous it's described in both the main text of Knuth and (iirc) in the Cormen-Leiserson-Rivest-Stein book < 1435706514 89172 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did once need to implement such a thing too, but with weights too, and this is what I used. < 1435706563 681384 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :weighted is probably less well known < 1435706581 828908 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what the weights are supposed to mean < 1435706591 881585 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this is I figured it out by myself I didn't read those books < 1435706627 33802 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it mean you take a weighted independent random selection of N items, and then condition that on it having no repetitions? < 1435706679 610069 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my case I was only taking one item, and the weight is meaning that item can be more than one < 1435706716 363187 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as [AAAABBCCDEFG] then you can instead make [A(4) B(2) C(2) D(1) E(1) F(1) G(1)] where the number in () is a weight number. < 1435706762 945119 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does a markov chain generally hold probability info < 1435706783 230793 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fowl: I thought it does but I don't know < 1435706804 624018 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh, choosing _one_ item with weighted < 1435706815 267888 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the algorithm for that _is_ in Knuth < 1435706827 298396 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am using a table of (string,string) => list < 1435706829 742451 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK < 1435706836 871510 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :And choosing the next word at random < 1435706852 123903 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, a stronger algorithm for that < 1435706877 80019 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :again, one that finds a random index in O(1) time, after O(n) time and space preprocessing the weights to O(n) extra space < 1435706880 638260 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a funny algorithm < 1435706936 197014 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe that algorithm is also in the C++11 standard library, the preprocessed state is called std::discrete_distribution < 1435706961 966203 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and its operator() member function generates an index based on the preprocessed data) < 1435706977 340121 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's also in libgsl, but I'm not completely sure < 1435707016 739131 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this, of course, is again most useful if you can random access the input you want to sample < 1435707029 899873 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise the simpler algorithm with no preprocessing works too < 1435707088 780275 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't use preprocess weights. I implemented it as a SQL aggregate function in a C code, so you have to read it one record at a time and do not have the capability to preprocess anything < 1435707112 425092 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I see < 1435707179 800170 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though if the input set is always the same, you could index it so it's random access by the index, and then use the more complicated algorithm if you want to get lots of independent weighted samples < 1435707214 749116 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if a webpage wants to show a random image or quotations out of a weighted set every time you load it < 1435707222 255164 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the set is large < 1435707275 994880 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The function implementation doesn't know if the input set is always the same or not, and anyways I didn't implement it for multiple selections; I only implemented to pick one. But yes it can be useful, if you want to pick more than one, to make up the proper way to do that < 1435707369 214036 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, one purpose I intend to do with is that you can generate a booster pack of Magic: the Gathering cards or whatever by a SQL query. < 1435707410 73837 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I see. < 1435707446 579223 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though that's more complicated < 1435707453 51305 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a booster pack usually doesn't contain repetitions < 1435707458 951694 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I believe) < 1435707491 361719 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the ideal distribution used might not be completely known, because Wizards doesn't tell so that people can't complain if they don't do it perfectly < 1435707513 643193 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can probably find a convincing enough approximation for that distribution though < 1435707543 521706 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know whether or not it does, but that would involve changing it too. However you can also just use the weights when there is not the repetitions, use a trigger that would insert records into the pack table and each time to pick one, pick only from the ones that aren't already picked < 1435707572 64130 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm not sure if that's exactly the same < 1435707577 766480 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it? < 1435707631 561305 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I'm not sure it's the same as repicking the whole thing when there's a repetition < 1435707720 8037 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, I think it's not the same < 1435707725 739113 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :when the distribution is not uniform < 1435707755 259584 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In SQL a infinite loop can contain only SELECT statements though, you can't make a infinite loop with INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE, etc although finite loops can contain INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE; and no loops can include statements such as CREATE and PRAGMA < 1435707797 319833 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1435707888 959321 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but can't you just generate a booster pack using unweighted samples without repetition instead? < 1435707923 554376 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with possibly some cards duplicated in older sets, and deciding separately whether you want a mythic or a rare, and whether you want a foil and of what rarity < 1435707927 274507 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Magic: the Gathering at least, I think the only case where weighted samples are even needed is when you don't pick more than one < 1435707933 490217 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Except for some old sets) < 1435707964 310018 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even for old sets, you just need multiple copies of a card in the same set and rarity (sometimes with the same art, sometimes with different art) < 1435707969 223148 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1435707981 656665 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course it's hard to be sure what they really do to generate booster packs < 1435708015 432169 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would generally though want to ignore art and holographic since they don't affect the game. Nevertheless for some people can be useful such as if they use this software to make up their own card game < 1435708132 396095 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1435708143 221669 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the foil does affect the distribution of the booster card < 1435708155 778973 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least for most of the recent expert expansion sets) < 1435708180 651563 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because a common is replaced by a foil of any rarity, so boosters with a foil rare have another rare < 1435708191 893494 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't just ignore that < 1435708213 63268 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it improve the Limited formats though? < 1435708224 829263 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could ignore the art, technically, but that doesn't really simpligy your code < 1435708228 715103 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't know really < 1435708229 306567 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's possible for a draft pool to have more rares than expected. < 1435708251 909837 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless by "improve" you mean "make it a better game", not "improve the power level in the format". < 1435708262 274915 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean to make it a better game. < 1435708263 276213 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it probably improves the satisfaction of customers at least, because they can very rarely open boosters with two rares < 1435708265 794656 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435708277 491989 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. That's probably a judgement call really. < 1435708280 836505 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how it affects the metagame itself < 1435708296 658023 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435708336 987512 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When making up distribution of cards in a pack, I am concerned here only about Limited formats. When I would design my own card game I would do this too and the rarity and so on is defined to improve the Limited formats only. < 1435708475 28335 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1435708511 67861 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1435708652 962721 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy leap second everyone < 1435708675 478398 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1435708700 750524 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know if it is possible to add leap seconds into the configuration file of Astrolog?