< 1435708975 998960 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn, I only wanted to implement a small part of this library, with only the functions I need < 1435708988 638978 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of what library is it? < 1435709003 397698 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it turns out that I'm implementing like over half of the functoins, < 1435709018 62604 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1435709044 13653 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because either I need that function, or it's a function that's trivial to implement once I figured out and implemented another similar one, so I'm implementing it immediately because it would be more difficult to figure out the implementation later < 1435709080 24661 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still it can help if it is publish later on so that other people can look too, I suppose < 1435709087 532348 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, what library is it, and what function is it? < 1435709087 744684 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: another XMM vector wrapper like Agner Fog's vectorclass library or eigen's packagemath or that new library called "VC" (unimaginatively) < 1435709101 791400 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one has a different interface and somewhat different scope from those < 1435709128 636188 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1435709144 445037 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, right now I'm implementing only the operations of XMM vectors of 8 and 16 bit wide integer types, because I don't need 32 and 64 wide < 1435709154 676903 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nor float) < 1435709197 233835 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm targetting only one cpu type < 1435709201 6272 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of these might change later < 1435709218 185244 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the api tries to look very different from vectorclass though < 1435709344 962358 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why I mentioned #define Z ) const { return < 1435709350 262574 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's a joke, I'm not really doing that < 1435709360 795664 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using all kinds of complicated template tricks instead < 1435709413 165915 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, to avoid duplication of a few common functions between 8 and 16 bit wide integers (and possibly other classes in the future), I've introduced two extra template classes < 1435709427 279626 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can get ugly < 1435709453 682973 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there are more extra classes and class templates for other utility purposes) < 1435709529 939481 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily Have to cancel wednesday. A friend from far away will be in town for exactly one day for the next >6 months, and did not find out that day was tomorrow until today. < 1435709530 45603 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1435709930 637831 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435710627 557727 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :All this ugliness I have to write because there's no library that does excatly what I want, but at least this will be reusable (at least for me) later < 1435710865 48899 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the difficult part of this library will be finding all the bugs though) < 1435711781 993701 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435712040 482254 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435712842 461112 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435713192 846830 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:74c2:67d2:6358:2dd1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435713281 999645 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, let's see what happens < 1435713372 888761 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, did it go to an infinite loop, or only very slow? < 1435713381 807442 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be fast < 1435713389 771314 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, somewhat fast < 1435713473 610782 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1435713479 378392 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a condition is negated or something < 1435713545 860587 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, it seems so... but which one < 1435713695 731336 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :}{FISH} < 1435714057 155615 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, I'm inviting the raptors by adding a goto < 1435714242 230276 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I can see the reversed condition < 1435714304 629694 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, much better now! < 1435714416 356701 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :er what's with it now? < 1435714428 784929 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :memory corruption where? < 1435714566 386018 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok, it depends on the input image size < 1435714629 871335 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how? wtf < 1435714663 45465 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1435714708 611119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1435714724 686821 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:74c2:67d2:6358:2dd1 PART :#esoteric < 1435715499 20485 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh great, found the first bug in the library < 1435715503 592788 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one luckily was not well hidden < 1435716739 681377 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435716741 15308 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the memory corruption is still in my code < 1435716754 50482 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435716978 89614 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435717442 94843 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435717747 311723 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435718255 469878 :}{FISH}!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1435719242 698934 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:74c2:67d2:6358:2dd1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435719518 869423 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TAOKIRV2d4 < 1435719523 19989 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh! I still don't see where the memory corruption bug is < 1435719532 747289 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must be writing past an array somewhere < 1435719537 584313 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in some direction) < 1435719897 819223 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude yours? < 1435719906 240968 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1435719917 568087 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its neat < 1435719971 731933 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1435721718 820625 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1435722194 763896 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435722235 487158 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh < 1435722241 600067 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ought to try making something based on Oragami when I get around to 3D game stuff. < 1435722243 582519 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1435722284 861324 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is what happens when I wait to say a thing. Other things happen first. < 1435722383 851936 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO < 1435722397 222393 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I marked a variable that gives the dimension of a dynamic array as static when < 1435722403 7232 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that dimension should change < 1435722411 325947 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT'S WHAT CAUSED THE CORRUPTION < 1435722413 928689 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK YOU < 1435722459 101689 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thrilling tale < 1435722468 842698 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'VE BEEN DEBUGGING THIS FOR HOURS NOW < 1435722793 104743 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: w < 1435723034 248633 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Sounds like you should have used a better language < 1435723061 140034 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't the fault of the language < 1435723064 669844 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the fault of my code < 1435723107 432111 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you've used a language without dynamic-sized stack-allocated arrays, it wouldn't have happened < 1435723120 689268 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend malborge < 1435723327 421866 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: this wasn't a stack-allocated language, but a heap-allocated one < 1435723338 769692 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Well, even worse < 1435723399 914741 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the language? < 1435723489 762471 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1435723507 699796 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: C++ < 1435723596 301136 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1435723614 25778 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435723667 549613 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jorge Luis "Mal" Borges < 1435723670 976168 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Why were you even declaring a static variable < 1435723686 924290 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435723750 353852 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I think I left it over from some earlier version of the code where that array was of a fixed size, and I didn't notice it was declared static when I changed it. < 1435723766 264715 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: But, why wasn't it const < 1435723775 255526 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: it was const < 1435723780 753904 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, static const int < 1435723787 115018 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should have been just const int < 1435723836 454620 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, again, why was it static in the first place when you first wrote it? < 1435723882 178684 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it was a compile-time constant < 1435724152 605814 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's not what static means < 1435725024 487877 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :If debugging is the process of removing bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in. Edsger W. Dijkstra [citation needed] < 1435725197 109782 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would leave "bugging" a redundant word though? < 1435725236 799764 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435725327 277309 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435725402 667302 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.2 < 1435725604 7650 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kxklwcsuhznvzklf JOIN :#esoteric < 1435725760 190608 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1435726061 654089 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435726299 274192 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435726786 424488 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDream, dunno, english is my fourth language after clucks, chirps and whistles < 1435728059 117801 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1435728868 440683 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :bird langs < 1435729448 535453 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1435729458 72770 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spjong < 1435729466 653785 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: where are you?! < 1435729477 826473 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnordbot: chirp < 1435729478 273532 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: races in all of the galaxy, a device which made this starship, one day, a student at the university of maximegalon, who pursued a brilliant marble-sanded beaches of santraginus v, inhaling the heady sea vapours; you can sleep under it. " yeah," he shouted to the guard, " not really. " we had a look at this," said slartibartfast, " that was one of mine," a voice said " i seem to be having tremendous difficulty in finding < 1435729874 545960 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see? < 1435730132 625549 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435730296 999995 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walpurgisnacht: what you see is what you get < 1435730337 647976 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds about right < 1435730687 256614 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03YourLocalFax 5* 10New user account < 1435730821 768285 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435733655 81452 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mindfunc14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43352 5* 03YourLocalFax 5* (+4773) 10Created page with "Mindfunc is a functional extension to the [[brainfuck]] language. This page assumes knowledge of brainfuck, so you should totally read up on it if you haven't already. == Det..." < 1435733724 80788 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43353&oldid=43345 5* 03YourLocalFax 5* (+15) 10/* M */ < 1435733789 240674 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mindfunc14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43354&oldid=43352 5* 03YourLocalFax 5* (-2) 10/* Implementations */ < 1435733825 31303 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mindfunc14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43355&oldid=43354 5* 03YourLocalFax 5* (+23) 10/* Implementations */ < 1435733888 619555 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck extensions14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43356&oldid=39116 5* 03YourLocalFax 5* (+14) 10 < 1435733909 526830 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG 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02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43359&oldid=43355 5* 03YourLocalFax 5* (-23) 10/* Implementations */ < 1435735622 165030 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435735656 202580 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mindfunc14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43360&oldid=43359 5* 03YourLocalFax 5* (-9) 10/* Consumers */ < 1435735680 480908 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mindfunc14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43361&oldid=43360 5* 03YourLocalFax 5* (+0) 10/* Consumers */ < 1435735754 816572 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mindfunc14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43362&oldid=43361 5* 03YourLocalFax 5* (-62) 10/* Built-ins */ < 1435735811 527635 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mindfunc14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43363&oldid=43362 5* 03YourLocalFax 5* (+28) 10 < 1435735839 392745 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mindfunc14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43364&oldid=43363 5* 03YourLocalFax 5* (+1) 10/* Built-ins */ < 1435735913 137709 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mindfunc14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43365&oldid=43364 5* 03YourLocalFax 5* (+66) 10/* Other Examples */ < 1435735928 211102 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mindfunc14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43366&oldid=43365 5* 03YourLocalFax 5* (+0) 10/* Other Examples */ < 1435736012 22118 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mindfunc14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43367&oldid=43366 5* 03YourLocalFax 5* (+24) 10 < 1435736033 789778 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:YourLocalFax14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43368 5* 03YourLocalFax 5* (+3) 10Created page with "Hi." < 1435739396 408254 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435739851 370856 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1435741683 868031 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435741788 195148 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1435742906 495335 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435743403 542296 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435743517 841724 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1435743517 895507 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1435743648 154478 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435743730 769511 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1435743874 425244 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435743880 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:GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1435754209 580673 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :GeoDude < 1435754927 711983 :Froox!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1435755079 236502 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1435755129 811470 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1435755242 189911 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1435755299 986371 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1435756088 587923 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435756696 210437 :rbryan!~rbryan@130.164.62.251 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435756909 722956 :rbryan!~rbryan@130.164.62.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... if I tried to write a semi-useful language for fun but it turned out to be painful to program in is this the right place for it? < 1435756965 989254 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1435757078 314914 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :rbryan: Sure < 1435757104 856265 :rbryan!~rbryan@130.164.62.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/rbryan/rplisp < 1435757111 201900 :rbryan!~rbryan@130.164.62.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a reverse polish lisp. < 1435757116 290292 :rbryan!~rbryan@130.164.62.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's terrible. < 1435757142 619424 :rbryan!~rbryan@130.164.62.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/rbryan/rplisp/blob/master/factorial.rpl < 1435757361 606248 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435757701 373094 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no such thing as terrible < 1435757704 912307 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :except numberic underload < 1435757719 781812 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :terribly boring derivatives are terrible < 1435757738 312462 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBS < 1435757798 436153 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys, guys! we're missing a very important ritual here! < 1435757803 560241 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome rbryan < 1435757805 809995 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08rbryan: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02EFnet 06or 13DALnet.) < 1435757810 607706 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1435757810 661580 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia said 13h 24m 41s ago: Have to cancel wednesday. A friend from far away will be in town for exactly one day for the next >6 months, and did not find out that day was tomorrow until today. < 1435757832 935047 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! oh well. < 1435757832 988905 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1435757915 89336 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :is reverse polish == stack based? < 1435757915 847351 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1435757922 209337 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 2 + 3 -? < 1435757926 517534 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1 + 2) - 3? < 1435757962 37020 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stlisp could do that! < 1435757978 321559 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if you want to be a purist, RP /= stack, but in practice they are about the same. < 1435757979 800210 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :stlisp allowed prefix, postfix and infix < 1435758002 157257 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(add 5 5) == (5 5 add) == (5 add 5) < 1435758038 550858 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(add 5 5) == (5 5 add) == (5 add 5) == add(5 5) == 5 5 (add) == 5 5 add () == 5 (5 add) == add 5 (5) and many more < 1435758060 826141 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is horrible. what if “5” is a function? < 1435758068 321960 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 can't be a function < 1435758077 354919 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's an integer literal < 1435758087 4794 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_, what if it were (add x y) < 1435758103 596133 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(add x y) is legal < 1435758110 725634 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if x is a function? < 1435758121 574838 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you'd have to write (add (x) y)? < 1435758130 967306 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or add x () y () < 1435758135 89996 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1435758140 676323 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :( is just syntactic sugar < 1435758142 568656 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-077-175-251.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable is < 1435758150 927337 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :) carries out the operation < 1435758166 402034 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :((add x 5)) < 1435758174 88586 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be the same thing as (add (x) 5) < 1435758249 712645 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :) pops something from the operations-to-carry-out stack and carries the operation out < 1435758253 583869 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :( literally does nothing < 1435758253 828768 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-077-175-251.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable literally < 1435758288 113986 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( ( < 1435758288 976617 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-077-175-251.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:2: error: unexpected < 1435758289 30657 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-077-175-251.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : EOF, expected: ")", < 1435758289 30728 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-077-175-251.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : dependent type signature, < 1435758289 30751 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-077-175-251.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : expression, name < 1435758289 30772 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-077-175-251.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( 14↵… < 1435758293 320072 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :( 9 < 1435758293 628266 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-077-175-251.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :049 : 12Integer < 1435758370 956743 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435758676 230835 :rbryan!~rbryan@130.164.62.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one is stack based. < 1435758725 43776 :rbryan!~rbryan@130.164.62.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also gtg. I've places to be. I will certainly be back later though. Sorry my first visit was so short lived. < 1435759676 343880 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435760042 5142 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435761278 252886 :Tod-Autojoined!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435761279 250791 :rbryan_!~rbryan@130.164.62.251 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435761286 341144 :gde33|2!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435761545 314340 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435761836 145866 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1435761841 758899 :Tod-Autojoined!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net NICK :TodPunk < 1435761845 706196 :rbryan!~rbryan@130.164.62.251 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1435761845 899359 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kxklwcsuhznvzklf QUIT :*.net *.split < 1435761846 187576 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :*.net *.split < 1435761847 705703 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1435761847 813210 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :*.net *.split < 1435761848 20182 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :*.net *.split < 1435761848 871252 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1435761849 26113 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1435761849 334884 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :*.net *.split < 1435761851 592203 :conehead-!~conehead@2a01:4f8:201:7482::2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435761851 645916 :conehead-!~conehead@2a01:4f8:201:7482::2 NICK :conehead < 1435761856 700426 :conehead!~conehead@2a01:4f8:201:7482::2 QUIT :Changing host < 1435761856 754131 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1435761949 861953 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1435761959 307337 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435761996 162552 :bb010g_!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlkibmfiruybbztz JOIN :#esoteric < 1435762545 320984 :bb010g_!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlkibmfiruybbztz NICK :bb010g < 1435762816 935736 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1435763062 375521 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435763086 557791 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1435763670 304477 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435765126 322173 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1435766269 777445 :password2!~password@197.77.50.216 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435767362 670018 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435767437 156033 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435767472 942853 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-077-175-251.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1435767535 749642 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-077-175-251.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435767587 733944 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1435768696 366381 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435769169 485279 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: HUNDRED CHICKEN < 1435770123 539118 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435770374 718929 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435770775 658154 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-rcgptbcccdbfpsls QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435771106 236989 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435771143 310053 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435771477 99507 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-wvcvxrkiowmnnohm JOIN :#esoteric < 1435772111 250963 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1435772167 567457 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a day off! < 1435772186 593626 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :... which I have spent half of sleeping < 1435772218 258667 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, reverse polish lisp! < 1435772291 122178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does canada celebrate the 4th of july three days early twh < 1435772374 895218 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because our constitutionwas signed by the Queen on that day... or somthing. i'll look it up < 1435772628 698620 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yah, the British North America Act was passed by the British parliament and signed by Queen Victoria on July 1 1867 < 1435772683 230 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It united Upper Canada, Lower Canada, New Brunswick and Nova Scotia into the Dominion of Canada. My father's generation called it Dominion Day < 1435772694 221209 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435772719 927704 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sghello! < 1435772750 392952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435772759 271253 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1435772761 284509 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfjoust/bfjoust is a spamming tool for #esoteric. < 1435772770 592056 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? canada < 1435772772 552797 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canada is Big Scotland. Like, you know, very big. < 1435772932 771670 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435772968 528347 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hezzo38! < 1435773035 236259 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom of zzo38 < 1435773036 568273 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :twnh/twnh is dubious hambiguitous help that will or will not be help. < 1435773145 926696 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append twnh It is provided by a toe with no hair. < 1435773148 652916 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'twnh': twnh is dubious hambiguitous help that will or will not be help. It is provided by a toe with no hair. < 1435773179 255946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you see, i've been through the desert on a toe with no hair < 1435773179 854115 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Queen Victoria is the grandmother of the current monarchs of England, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and Spain. < 1435773988 12465 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Constitution Act, 1982 was proclaimed on April 17 < 1435774175 7773 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435774940 270241 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there were a bounch of constitution acts in between, esentially whenever a new province joined < 1435774997 317299 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boilygiorno < 1435775010 635417 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :borenjour! < 1435775264 834019 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian JOIN :#esoteric < 1435775398 514711 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435775800 679419 :GeoDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :GeekDude < 1435776127 453998 :`^_^!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435776205 510930 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1435776519 149837 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435776557 279553 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: chelloppro! happy Canaday! < 1435776572 392443 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy canada day to you! < 1435776582 90600 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: why does canada celebrate the 4th of july three days early twh < 1435776597 559067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom of boily < 1435776599 750366 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for further details/who knows < 1435776644 585993 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shellochaf! wisdom of boily? < 1435776652 233368 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435776653 197018 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bookwatching/bookwatching is when you conflagrate birdwatching and the books used to identify them in the same object. < 1435776696 823911 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/bookwatching < 1435776698 672206 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull elliott Sgeo boily < 1435776705 974450 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom birds < 1435776707 256357 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdbfmt/qdbformat is: message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two < 1435776724 321470 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdbfmt is for the birds < 1435776802 543643 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435776946 880241 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435776948 441576 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :u/u monad? < 1435776991 17763 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` wisdom | rainwords < 1435776992 213578 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08roujo's 09relevant 02info/That 06information 13is 04stored 07in 08an 09unnamed 02metal 06cabinet 13in 04one 07of 08the 09top 02floors 06of 13an 04obscure 07administrative 08building 09with 02a 06number 13that 04you 07probably 08never 09heard 02of. < 1435776996 948054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that might be a bit too much < 1435777018 103785 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: also happy moving day < 1435777280 356517 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghah! this is bright! < 1435777324 949274 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: the neighbour I have never seen is moving today. there are noises and moving appliances. < 1435777358 809116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom moving < 1435777359 993027 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coonspirator/A coonspirator is caterpillar silk wrapped in collaborators. < 1435777376 363159 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote moving < 1435777378 58072 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :231) gah, who'd have thought removing concurrency from algol could be so difficult < 1435777691 81780 :password2!~password@197.77.50.216 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435778302 102433 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435778303 726089 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleep/Sleep is for the weak. < 1435778354 233540 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is tempted to introduce some cleverness into wisdom entries rather than just using cat < 1435778361 921901 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat | rnooodl, rather < 1435779768 767391 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: care to reschedule? < 1435779821 162990 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: for now I don't know exactly when. perhaps some time around July 11? < 1435779858 275127 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds good to me. did everything install okay? < 1435779934 492705 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't todayed following your @massage, but it'll work. < 1435779970 948659 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(besides, getting some pressure from cow orkers to steam with them too. the advantage they have over you is that they can directly wallop me around the head due to physical proximity.) < 1435779997 857709 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should also meet sometime this summer. < 1435780018 721212 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1435780019 562365 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :743) STOP CAPITALIZING It's making me feel weird the I has to be capitilized its proper grammer < 1435780093 896201 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not our proudest `quote moment there... < 1435780345 411350 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435780346 456856 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something-that-isn't-in-hackego's-wisdom/It is now. < 1435780353 307600 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435780354 516347 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :le/rn/le/rn makes creating wisdom entries manually a thing of the past. < 1435780369 275041 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :¶ wisdom < 1435780372 594685 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435780373 720392 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork/no < 1435780378 100906 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435780379 628681 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wfraatw/A WFRAATW is a well-founded recursive acronym akin to "WFRAATW". < 1435780786 27337 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435780810 229746 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Bojidar-bg 5* 10New user account < 1435780911 202522 :`^_^!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435780931 153956 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? k < 1435780932 7035 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :K K K Ken < 1435783041 894763 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435783194 849347 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435783197 459930 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ramen/拉麵是一種類型的麵條縫製從原始樹木。 < 1435783396 845987 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBS < 1435783741 838486 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/ramen < 1435783743 484093 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott boily < 1435783805 949007 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :caveat translator: don't expect this sentence to be grammaticatitatively correct, much less to make sense. the ramen are still delicious hth < 1435784101 326624 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435784153 497200 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435784287 183524 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435784557 426150 :rbryan_!~rbryan@130.164.62.251 NICK :rbryan < 1435784782 130335 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435785205 966139 :rbryan!~rbryan@130.164.62.251 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435785520 136778 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1435785595 870949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf codu.org expired < 1435785610 835447 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1435785617 476918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1435785624 2959 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did a squatter get it for good < 1435785633 895630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Gregor has been idle for 10 days < 1435785645 446789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and that's only because he pinged out then) < 1435785656 681820 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, whois is still showing it registered to Gregor. < 1435785678 227339 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :updated july 1 < 1435785689 9892 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :expires june 30, 2016 < 1435785689 994353 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems fine < 1435785701 705740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1435785709 361270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it just hasn't propagated < 1435785828 507042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get a page with a lot of strange links and "This Domain Name Has Expired - Renewal Instructions." at the bottom < 1435785888 63143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now it refuses to reload. oh well. tunes -> < 1435786820 2971 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF. < 1435786852 59340 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435786853 95272 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: mountain view is that awful? < 1435786863 109574 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No. < 1435786875 314455 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF on codu.org expiry. < 1435786888 589815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're not finding it awful? < 1435786896 623496 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not in Mountain View yet. < 1435786908 946498 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like my move is next week. < 1435786913 308586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :awfulle and artifycial < 1435786953 345009 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435787826 853522 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1435787841 406103 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435787841 545320 :villasukka!villasukka@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435788513 789758 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Queen Victoria is the grandmother of the current monarchs of England, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and Spain. <-- i'm pretty sure that's at least one generation off, i think two. < 1435788558 600362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :harald <- olav <- maud <- edward <- victoria iirc < 1435788699 642849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oren Queen Victoria is the grandmother of the current monarchs of England, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and Spain. <-- that's two generations off for norway hth < 1435788699 734178 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1435789049 213843 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1435789059 897453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the swedish king is descended from victoria in two ways < 1435789458 336556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oren three off for spain, although their king just changed. < 1435789458 390474 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1435790329 597469 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435790404 449663 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1435790501 310193 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? chess < 1435790502 408261 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chess is a complex boardgame, where players exchange unclear royal steaks until they decide which of them has lost. The game is recorded through the Gringmuth Moving Pineapple Notation. < 1435790532 58873 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oren monarchy is difficult. beware the moving pineapples. < 1435790532 202977 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1435790630 887231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pineapples? < 1435790707 841948 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hthththth < 1435790811 278022 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435790811 509249 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :パインアップル < 1435790812 480522 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435791288 642060 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: pineapples hth < 1435791290 334378 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: have you played riichi? < 1435791298 719192 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1435791342 584383 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should < 1435794120 854163 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to have accidentaly entered a ziggurat, and where's elliott. < 1435794211 330100 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sixpig. < 1435794393 668851 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wattagnet.com/Six_pig__poultry_alternative_feed_ingredients.html < 1435794588 181098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not know where elliott is, he was last sighted on the wiki by accident. < 1435795052 336893 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Joke language list14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43369&oldid=43245 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+0) 10/* General languages */ order < 1435795142 743828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do bananas and pineapples have in common < 1435795204 496987 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anana < 1435795276 751905 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're both wired with microphones < 1435795288 481987 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435795297 590347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did the wiki just croak again < 1435795318 504014 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just as i've loaded up my largest IE tab collection ever < 1435795327 805861 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nys: I'm very tempted to mapole you, but after having seen corn microphones I morally can't. < 1435795345 149577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's got to look corny < 1435795355 907318 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy maple day < 1435795383 358711 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, I have absolutely no qualms nor any scruples when it comes to oerjan. < 1435795391 602077 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION *THWACKS* oerjan < 1435795398 190739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i deserved that. < 1435795486 836749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait only some of the wiki pages didn't load, that D can mean either that or "Difference between revisions" < 1435795736 55125 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43370&oldid=43358 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+0) 10/* U */ There had to be one... < 1435796477 446725 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SCRUBS4U14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43371&oldid=43030 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+60) 10Some proofreading. Don't know what to do about Examples section. < 1435796615 682190 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Lucasieks14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43372&oldid=43034 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+50) 10unsigned < 1435797095 45569 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know, I think it might be possible to hack Super Pitfall so as not to suck < 1435797600 583792 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435797712 854740 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :A while back, I mused about the idea of a "polynomial type theory", which only lets you define functions whose growth rate is bounded above by a polynomial. < 1435797756 455832 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The theory would let you define two different types of natural numbers, "unat" (natural numbers expressed in unary) and "bnat" (natural numbers expressed in binary or something equivalent). < 1435797780 603586 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :These wouldn't be interconvertible: you can't turn a bnat into the equivalent unat, because the function that would do so grows too quickly. < 1435797825 156532 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The power function would be definable, but the most useful type it could have would be (bnat * unat) -> bnat or something. < 1435797923 25455 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The function grows exponentially in the exponent, so you have to have it take the exponent in unary and output the result in binary in order for that to work. < 1435797938 9593 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Now do ET < 1435798023 741852 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, it's obvious how to define lengths for a sum type or a product type, but how do you define lengths for a function type? < 1435798030 409534 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've concluded that in general, you just can't do it. < 1435798154 989489 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Super Pitfall that bad? < 1435798306 485409 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :...remind me why I concluded that? Hmmm. < 1435798317 967373 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compared to regular Pitfall? < 1435798350 551060 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :its engine is only a little screwy, but the level design is atrocious < 1435798358 401621 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played it, and the game was not that fun. < 1435798360 427465 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. there are multiple pitfalls? < 1435798373 805125 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but the first was for Atari. < 1435798375 321116 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: probably because you attempted to do it, but it wasn't possible? < 1435798376 789623 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :super pitfall is on NES < 1435798382 985374 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut? < 1435798394 560533 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played a version of Pitfall on the PC. < 1435798396 186806 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was also a Pitfall 2, right? < 1435798412 622148 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe Pitfall 2 is what I played. < 1435798422 429708 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I need to attempt again. < 1435798464 643317 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I do know is that the length function for a function type has to grow superexponentially in the degree of the function. < 1435798498 994664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom superexponential growth < 1435798499 965490 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy/mnoqy used to be monqy before the earthquake. < 1435798552 616691 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435798572 437922 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: your wisdoms are beginning to sound like my chickens hth < 1435798719 486803 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435798783 880136 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does `wisdom pay attention to is argument at all? < 1435798787 893549 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? superexponential growth < 1435798788 621997 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :superexponential growth? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435798800 875221 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom superduperexponential growth < 1435798801 971374 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just intonation/Bad-tempered people can be recognized by just intonation. < 1435798814 810389 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? equal temperament < 1435798815 633872 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Equal temperament is just intonation that's evenly spaced. < 1435798835 750013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: the problem is that you cannot give a length for the apply function < 1435798862 120612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you cannot define a length for its argument that makes the apply function polynomial < 1435798876 407000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*first argument < 1435798877 472249 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn superexponential growth/Superexponential growth? SUPEREXPONENTIAL GROWTH?! HOLY CRAP!!! < 1435798879 674469 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «superexponential growth» < 1435798896 673615 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how do you know? < 1435798905 972400 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter, in particular? < 1435798947 98165 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :A hypothetical apply function could have the type ((bnat -> bnat) * bnat) -> bnat. < 1435798947 652346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: imagine that time(apply(f,x)) <= (length(f)+length(c))^n < 1435798963 66192 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: i don't get that wisdom entry < 1435798966 674301 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it doing < 1435798974 944326 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it meant to be superexponential or something? < 1435799006 586209 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435799025 712776 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: by time do you mean length, and by c do you mean x? < 1435799038 642107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter < 1435799042 226908 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the former < 1435799048 324841 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's time(), then? < 1435799063 745859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the time it takes to run? that's usually what you're interested in for P < 1435799080 529646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be bounded by a polynomial < 1435799116 143128 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, what I said was "functions whose growth rate is bounded above by a polynomial". < 1435799119 962266 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not their runtime. < 1435799124 735993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1435799126 805911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1435799168 204320 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well, it's an exaggerated reaction of astonishment at the concept of superexponential growth. < 1435799181 955790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, replace time() by absolute value < 1435799295 363491 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :All righ. < 1435799303 530115 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :t. < 1435799328 116031 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So then what happens if abs(apply(f,x)) <= (length(f) + length(c))^n? < 1435799336 573300 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crap, I copied your error. < 1435799355 202301 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1435799390 802980 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1435799470 944728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: well i claim you cannot have that, which means apply itself cannot be polynomial < 1435799505 685019 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right. And the reason for that is... < 1435799517 378809 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the function f has degree m, then n > m, right? < 1435799525 517419 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So n must be a natural number which is greater than all natural numbers. < 1435799535 36919 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme see if I think that's right. < 1435799570 833111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that < 1435799584 916149 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that does sound right. < 1435799975 412320 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07And14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43373&oldid=43079 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+12) 10name fmt and links < 1435800165 267328 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Goto14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43374&oldid=43077 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+4) 10name fmt and link < 1435800473 62306 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Microscript14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43375&oldid=43111 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+7) 10links < 1435800541 572248 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PANDEMONIAC CHICKEN < 1435800624 872412 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hi\n14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43376&oldid=43094 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-62) 10formatting < 1435801053 463328 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CLEB14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43377&oldid=43116 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+7) 10intro fmt, link < 1435801168 737667 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CRalphabet14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43378&oldid=43117 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+6) 10bold < 1435801747 378588 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ABCs14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43379&oldid=43144 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+3) 10link, space < 1435801788 488525 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1435801995 687876 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1435802039 836533 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :P=NP < 1435802050 56408 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1435802087 473720 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Wordfuck14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43380&oldid=43165 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+45) 10unsigned < 1435802537 456462 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Underload14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43381&oldid=43186 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+200) 10unsigned < 1435802565 540628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fowl: PROOF PLZ THX TWH < 1435802615 757723 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOES WITH HAIR < 1435802680 161533 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gulf14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43382&oldid=43205 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+10) 10standardificamation < 1435802727 6288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do toes without hair help when desert trekking inquiring minds would like to know < 1435802831 431046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hard to say, since i've never been through the desert on a toe with hair < 1435802844 419632 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine it doesn't make too much of a difference < 1435802903 459972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i suppose it would be nice to receive hth < 1435803123 962787 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, as for the class of all functions with at most a given degree... < 1435803228 206226 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the class of all functions with degree at most n is a type, whose apply function has degree n+1. < 1435803409 986417 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435803513 831174 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Jumpback14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43383&oldid=43206 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-1) 10grm < 1435803604 282732 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435803627 400523 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07PRINTASKSWITCHINPUTCASEXGOTOACASEYGOTOBELSEGOTOC14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43384&oldid=43210 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+8) 10fmt, link < 1435803652 278956 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1435803692 145667 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see if you know these quiz of Canada Day and other Canadian laws: http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/canada.day < 1435803821 188429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what's the best province? < 1435803850 11329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know the answers to most of these questions. < 1435803851 214942 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people say British Columbia, which is where I live. I absolutely don't know if it is true or not or if there is any one that can be called as a best province < 1435803885 603048 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just said that some people say British Columbia. So how can you not know if it can be called a best province? < 1435803902 628810 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean I don't know if they are correct or if it is proper < 1435803919 225057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1435804019 145825 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10deleted "[[02Esolang:Ye Olde Alchemist10]]": Seems to have been created by error < 1435804029 735546 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can birds sing louder than 50 decibels? Decibels are relative. < 1435804070 907773 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know that < 1435804084 229460 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't mean people who write the laws would know < 1435804153 415098 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you like using cents instead of decibels? < 1435804204 868460 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do *you* think??? < 1435804274 999108 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's the sort of unusual unit you would enjoy using. < 1435804367 191035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about octaves? < 1435804392 217361 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A cent is 1/1200th of a bit. < 1435804502 862328 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10deleted "[[02Numberic Underload10]]": Misspelling < 1435804798 15668 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1435804852 832368 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck Markup Language14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43385&oldid=43278 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+7) 10links, sp < 1435804867 565030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom octave < 1435804869 630860 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1435804933 72768 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'wisdom < 1435804938 353105 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435804941 183440 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :group/groups are just loops with the property of associativity < 1435805178 938018 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Cod14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43386&oldid=43316 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+47) 10wikitable, link fmt < 1435805237 583133 :mihow!~mihow@c-71-59-154-49.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435805291 436867 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Unc14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43387&oldid=43292 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+1) 10sp < 1435805347 617169 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Unc14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43388&oldid=43387 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+14) 10lc < 1435805603 267111 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Noisett14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43389&oldid=43351 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-24) 10bold, spacing, link fmt < 1435805742 306635 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:74c2:67d2:6358:2dd1 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1435805756 790240 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10deleted "[[02Phase10]]": Redirect from wrong namespace < 1435805783 617826 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435805979 672299 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Lamb14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43390&oldid=43317 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+4) 10link < 1435806013 509173 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1435806111 891761 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Noit o' mnain worb14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43391&oldid=43323 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+12) 10if it's hidden it's a spoiler < 1435806396 107832 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Shoelips14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43392&oldid=43333 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+32) 10fmt, finish sentence < 1435806433 33935 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom octaves < 1435806440 761951 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :culprit/`culprits` is a program that lists the lists the nicks responsible for a wisdom entry. Usage: `culprits wisdom/ENTRY < 1435806453 812331 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did that entry really have to end up messed up tdnh < 1435806860 359833 :mihow!~mihow@c-71-59-154-49.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435807334 163989 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SMIL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43393&oldid=43344 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+61) 10proofreading < 1435807520 504192 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Mindfunc14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43394&oldid=43367 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-10) 10bold, link section fmt < 1435807563 344846 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435808033 643100 :password2!~password@197.77.50.216 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435808518 882288 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom cents < 1435808523 325759 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :group/groups are just loops with the property of associativity < 1435808532 979511 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks a lackego < 1435809850 380785 :codergeek42!~pgordon@2602:306:bc32:ada0:221:6aff:fe68:c87c JOIN :#esoteric < 1435809850 558117 :codergeek42!~pgordon@2602:306:bc32:ada0:221:6aff:fe68:c87c QUIT :Changing host < 1435809850 612041 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435811418 930540 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do I need to do slist updates? < 1435811557 100715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: smaybe < 1435811664 842377 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought slist was dead. < 1435811919 531545 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435811919 881965 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435812782 548370 :rodgort!~rodgort@105.ip-167-114-152.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435813016 934544 :gde33|2!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT : < 1435813074 332899 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, it's on a regular schedule now, and it's only us two < 1435813076 676544 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So probably not < 1435813169 612671 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there's an rss < 1435813246 301670 :rodgort!~rodgort@105.ip-167-114-152.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435814454 406766 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1435814520 476326 :password2!~password@197.77.50.216 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435815112 36151 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1435816664 217055 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:2d95:1c6c:90c1:bc22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435816710 662819 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:2d95:1c6c:90c1:bc22 QUIT :Client Quit < 1435817681 995820 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1435817744 564138 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RSS is dead, Google killed it < 1435817758 44156 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Embrace and extinguish < 1435818214 517955 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435818294 849176 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435818669 49491 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1435819075 168844 :dronefly!~AndChat59@41.189.161.38 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435819497 1380 :dronefly!~AndChat59@41.189.161.38 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435819527 145032 :dronefly!~AndChat59@41.66.208.152 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435819863 342216 :dronefly!~AndChat59@41.66.208.152 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435820164 102049 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like it will be cooler today < 1435820316 173953 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay < 1435820320 323457 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may be able to think < 1435820576 343368 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is wrong with ^([0-9]+)(.*)$ not matching "13a"? < 1435820891 289089 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing. maybe I have some unprintable garbage in that string. < 1435820926 466748 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are we dealing with BRE or ERE? < 1435820950 261385 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :In BRE (as used by e.g. sed, grep by default), you need ^\([0-9]+\)\(.*\)$ < 1435820962 23163 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without the slash, in BRE ( matches itself. < 1435821141 967874 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah. I'm using Java. < 1435821970 963526 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435824435 1958 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1435825347 387141 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435825393 639883 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot < 1435825417 53303 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`testing < 1435825431 836678 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, World! < 1435825434 988954 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: testing: not found < 1435825449 754768 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo < 1435825471 758772 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`Testing, 1, 2, 3,.... < 1435825489 587522 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: Testing,: not found < 1435825501 935423 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSA_: Epic win! < 1435825513 836434 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :N$Ⓐ always scores in this cruel World! < 1435825528 360266 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, I found a backdoor into the NSA. < 1435825534 749448 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See the underscore? < 1435825539 138054 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSA < 1435825545 195260 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was already taken < 1435825548 914264 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I am NSA_ < 1435825568 253539 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :kkk < 1435825571 999347 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well done! < 1435825573 99911 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go on! < 1435825586 157525 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:28:53 -!- _N$A_ Erroneous Nickname < 1435825588 432891 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :o/ < 1435825597 461092 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the Trial counts! < 1435825608 224743 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I applied at the CIA, and the application process included uploading sample documents, so I put some ESOLANGS into the raw text. < 1435825648 657937 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. < 1435825651 385386 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :You own. < 1435825701 190416 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#RURNM < 1435825708 779983 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you people doubted me. < 1435825716 170820 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :wats dis < 1435825724 361729 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's something new. < 1435825765 949711 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh zombiecheney < 1435825768 20098 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome back < 1435825797 897852 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1435825810 258250 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :jk < 1435825813 306540 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont welcome you back < 1435825830 226833 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't matter whether I am welcomed or not, I am back. < 1435825842 796907 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence the name Zombie, can't kill me. < 1435825855 785200 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :no doubt to do some griefing < 1435825864 978278 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps. < 1435825871 325854 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Part of the learning process. < 1435825941 240020 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of these logs will add nicely to my collection. < 1435826027 744851 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will be forwarding them all to glenn.greenwald courtesy of The Intercept < 1435826151 934293 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PinealGlandOptic < 1435826209 960521 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Signing off... beep beep boop... < 1435826458 306033 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435826526 187409 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1435826559 64668 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest ??? < 1435826628 728197 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :== Patashu < 1435826642 122172 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric : [~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #esoteric < 1435826654 57461 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admin is not admin < 1435826660 948764 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PoI? < 1435826664 720497 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good show... < 1435826681 650842 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren < 1435826698 426145 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look! < 1435826714 48588 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an original Degas. < 1435826730 964196 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The good news is, the Machine is alive, the bad news is, it's pissed. < 1435826756 265827 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fucking A, it's like a ghost town in here. < 1435826770 110647 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname < 1435826776 18533 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You talking to me? < 1435826781 384078 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You talking to me? < 1435826795 610400 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see anyone else here, so you must be talking to me. < 1435826803 758649 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make my day, sucka. < 1435826823 550388 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edgar Degas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Degas Wikipedia Edgar Degas (US /deɪˈɡɑː/ or UK /ˈdeɪɡɑː/; French: [ilɛʁ ʒɛʁmɛ̃ ɛdɡɑʁ dəɡɑ]; born Hilaire-Germain-Edgar De Gas; 19 July 1834 – 27 September ... ‎The Bellelli Family - ‎Portraits at the Stock Exchange - ‎Little Dancer of Fourteen Years Edgar Degas - The complete works www.edgar-degas.org/ Edgar Degas - Homepag < 1435826859 13924 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intro on: computer code resolves into images: First Scene of my Script < 1435827624 406278 :NSA_!43001f47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.0.31.71 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435827812 65586 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell < 1435827935 672577 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree < 1435828240 534616 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I just ordered a COMPUTER SCIENCE BOOK < 1435828250 813014 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435828957 618188 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(among other things) < 1435828988 162364 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Introduction to Languages and the Theory of Computation" < 1435829179 560243 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, I was getting worried that I might get in trouble because my laptop's charger cable has a sticker saying "Do not use after 12.06.14" (dd/mm/yy, I presume) < 1435829207 583245 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then I realised the office's extension cord it is plugged into has a similar sticker saying "Do not use after 16.04.14" < 1435830053 980942 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, PAT testing < 1435830609 14220 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435830728 850263 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435831088 909274 :Alcest!~alcest@93.186.169.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435831221 694846 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing Eclipse Extensions is "fun" < 1435831258 838580 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Extensions/plugins/ < 1435831291 18088 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computer science. < 1435831383 871482 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1435831543 650620 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435832055 847432 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435832589 696895 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435832724 230171 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91-rdmsoft [XULRunner 32.0.3/20140923175406] < 1435833002 790498 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435833759 618365 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, ? < 1435834814 528676 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it's not. < 1435835900 346622 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: BIASED CHICKEN < 1435836830 575222 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1435836846 677776 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1435837069 692056 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode WEARY CAT FACE < 1435837080 171493 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F640 WEARY CAT FACE \ UTF-8: f0 9f 99 80 UTF-16BE: d83dde40 Decimal: 🙀 \ 🙀 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1435837926 507537 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435839412 497484 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435840020 118204 :Alcest!~alcest@93.186.169.30 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435840222 622813 :Alcest!~alcest@93.186.169.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435840361 777361 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1435840518 734042 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435840524 858102 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435841065 923839 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435841504 657040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435841712 752872 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1435842227 545296 :villasukka!villasukka@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435842555 670039 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435842837 544587 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435844342 667606 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I think this isn't one bug in my program, but two or three bugs interacting with each other. < 1435844756 714215 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435844935 843460 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1435844944 590391 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435845416 127394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: meeting < 1435846600 671384 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you do "excluding" in regex? < 1435846601 949618 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like uhm < 1435846619 477343 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want stuff like */+-#@?! < 1435846632 465021 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so every non-letter that is not a digit and not a control character < 1435846739 716410 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. Java has \p{Punct} for that < 1435846795 963648 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can. < 1435846827 431797 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :typically [^a-z] matches not a-z. < 1435846865 914922 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that matches \00 as well < 1435846887 887494 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java has \p{Punct} < 1435846895 239923 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's most certainly not standard regex < 1435846902 879223 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then look up your regexp library's manual < 1435846916 972152 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which regexp are you talking about? < 1435846982 624509 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess [-*/+#@?!] would match what you want < 1435847004 701915 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i put - in front because it otherwise usually denotes a range < 1435847033 879164 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you list chars between [], it will match those chars. < 1435847110 243412 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there aren't that many so you can list them. < 1435847237 160404 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435847264 969696 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435847936 551989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1435848258 606076 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. Java regexes even have back-references < 1435848279 867079 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :irregular expressions < 1435848369 826539 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think with mighty enough regexes you can even do parsing < 1435848381 240845 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :to some degree < 1435848535 96279 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. neat. < 1435848537 930406 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :possesive quantifiers < 1435848610 867203 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, "mighty enough regexes" should be TC < 1435848660 877983 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1435848687 788034 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, isn't that just saying "sufficiently powerful language recognizers can recognize anything a Turing machine can"? < 1435848694 741920 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hion < 1435848723 103353 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I was trying to subtly mock mroman_ :P < 1435848738 276941 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, yes it does. < 1435848755 13901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :parsing isn't quite the same as recognizing, though. < 1435848821 315934 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are TC languages than can be recognized by regexp, and some that can't. < 1435848821 832046 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should design an esolang named HELL ASK. Here’s its logo. https://wiki.haskell.org/wikiupload/7/75/Pure_Devil_Haskell.png < 1435848842 434175 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, I read that as "HE'LL ASK" < 1435848854 366105 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: and ion as int-e? < 1435848866 828931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-n channels are confusing tdnh < 1435848868 419142 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, yes < 1435848907 603850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait ion isn't here? < 1435848908 231697 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My client really does not want to tab-complete ion < 1435848918 622927 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine does. < 1435848931 718305 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Huh, weird. I see you just fine. < 1435848932 233166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi tab-completes people who aren't in the channel if they send messages to it < 1435848947 166804 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion is trying to create confusion and i'm trying to clear it up < 1435848949 383187 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas I use Hexchat < 1435848967 221172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means i cannot use tab completion to check when HackEgo has one of its rejoining issues < 1435848975 157514 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is fungot so unstable these days? < 1435848992 649042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it's turned british hth < 1435849024 786503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: are you using codu's stalker logs < 1435849033 467924 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the british people were the very definition of stability... < 1435849059 744293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Hexchat is a variant of Smalltalk invented in Hexham. < 1435849064 119524 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'hexchat': Hexchat is a variant of Smalltalk invented in Hexham. < 1435849066 530493 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :polite, never crying... < 1435849090 787077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: well have _you_ tried keeping a stiff upper lip when you don't have lips tdnh < 1435849096 180639 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: tunes.org stalker logs hth < 1435849147 535778 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: ok. btw codu has an actual stalking mode. < 1435849164 349701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it may not be called precisely that.) < 1435849183 721518 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good to hear that codu is back < 1435849187 755798 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that mean Gregor is back too < 1435849190 54732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh < 1435849248 100625 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, "stalker mode" hth < 1435849248 202388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well presumably he did _something_ on july 1 to bring codu back < 1435849252 853878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest62171: are you back? < 1435849256 579475 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL < 1435849327 939602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not promising. < 1435849343 82741 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom ion < 1435849346 196193 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Ø/Ø escaped due to a sensitive case bug < 1435849363 898349 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess he may be using his own website even if he doesn't look at the channel. < 1435849383 735168 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wisdom < 1435849384 352676 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :F="$(find wisdom -type f | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}/" | rnooodl; cat "$F" | rnooodl < 1435849433 63310 :Froox!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1435849456 181720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's!wisdom!wisdom/"$1"!' bin/wisdom < 1435849460 624806 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435849462 980563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435849463 945268 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :turkey/Turkey was the center of an empire that gobbled up much of Eastern Europe and the Middle East, something which brought them into conflict with Ostrich. In the 19th century the overstuffed empire started declining, and after the Great War it was cut up like so much Shish Kebab. < 1435849478 225649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom ostrich < 1435849479 108283 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ostrich/Ostrich used to be a large middle European empire in frequent conflict with Turkey. After a famine it sort of split into Ostrich/Hungry. Alas its policy of keeping its head in the sand did not get it through the Great War, and with its final attempts to take flight failing, it ended up cut into several pieces. < 1435849494 703490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sorry, i was starting to get annoyed < 1435849504 763475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: now you gotta handle plurals < 1435849505 272794 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1435849533 193159 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i leave further enhancements as an exercise hth < 1435849556 524918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mainly i also did it because i finally thought of a simple "fix" < 1435849735 677727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/*"ost"* < 1435849736 529319 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/ostrich < 1435849766 460427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/** < 1435849767 408185 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/` \ wisdom/`? \ wisdom/ \ wisdom/_̰̆̓_̦̻̖͍̟̖̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_̯͙̬̬̦̯͂͋͒ͧ͋̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞ \ wisdom/? \ wisdom/?? \ wisdom/@ \ wisdom/\ \ wisdom/☃ \ wisdom/⊥ \ wisdom/⌨ \ wisdom/  \ wisdom/🐐 \ wisdom/̸̸̼͚͇̮͕̳̞̤̜̯̪̪̱̣̠̺̹͍̩̝͚͕͓͚̙͓̪̮̟̜̣͙̪̂ͭ̎̏̔ͦ͒ͪ͌̾ͦͨ̚̚͢͠ͅ < 1435849786 584106 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O! < 1435849788 508129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that might work < 1435849797 142717 :Froox!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1435849803 584703 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/Wisdom < 1435849804 136893 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/Wisdom: No such file or directory < 1435849808 788973 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wisdom < 1435849809 304492 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :F="$(find wisdom/"$1" -type f | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}/" | rnooodl; cat "$F" | rnooodl < 1435849831 372300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/"$1"/*"$1"*/' bin/wisdom < 1435849833 12665 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435849836 867023 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435849837 829828 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :accounting/ = 0 < 1435849842 68713 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom ost < 1435849843 664197 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ostrich/Ostrich used to be a large middle European empire in frequent conflict with Turkey. After a famine it sort of split into Ostrich/Hungry. Alas its policy of keeping its head in the sand did not get it through the Great War, and with its final attempts to take flight failing, it ended up cut into several pieces. < 1435849854 263367 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1435849855 112554 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom ng < 1435849856 25276 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ring/Addition, subtraction and multiplication have a certain ring to them. < 1435849859 612001 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom ng < 1435849860 635774 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bookwatching/bookwatching is when you conflagrate birdwatching and the books used to identify them in the same object. < 1435849861 562381 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom ng < 1435849862 389411 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :metaturing/This wisdom entry was crushed by a falling anvil. < 1435849870 283096 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ng is more common than I assumed < 1435849871 884764 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom nge < 1435849872 889506 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngevd/ngevd is a fake wisdom entry because having an actual infinite file in wisdom/ makes all manner of stuff bloody awkward. `? ngevd is special-cased in bin/?. leave this file alone Phantom_Hoover‼ also tswett‼ < 1435850122 708745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : It looks like it will be cooler today <-- NOPE < 1435850134 425896 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like 5 degrees cooler < 1435850136 87608 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So nice < 1435850145 654058 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might be able to sleep tonight < 1435850247 323477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom sleep < 1435850248 249606 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleep/Sleep is for the weak. < 1435850268 401460 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not famous for my strength < 1435850277 16767 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither! < 1435850281 962722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1435850282 375152 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 021450Z 26010KT CAVOK 22/16 Q1019 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 30005KT < 1435850284 699427 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOOK AT THESE GRAPHS oerjan http://weather.elec.york.ac.uk/live-graphs.html < 1435850345 362929 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, about the same weather as here. < 1435850377 36809 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar epwa < 1435850377 346911 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EPWA 021500Z 01006KT 310V060 CAVOK 27/07 Q1026 NOSIG < 1435850379 513126 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although we did have a much warmer night last night < 1435850386 287584 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly due to more cloud coverage < 1435850395 584208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, one day earlier < 1435850403 396145 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar epwa < 1435850403 845458 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EPWA 021500Z 01006KT 310V060 CAVOK 27/07 Q1026 NOSIG < 1435850406 23358 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar eddi < 1435850406 435224 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No result. < 1435850424 627640 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok you win < 1435850429 585245 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar eddb < 1435850429 996830 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EDDB 021450Z 12012KT CAVOK 29/10 Q1023 NOSIG < 1435850433 403181 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, the wind has been generally from the south-west < 1435850439 306302 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar lowi < 1435850439 787854 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 021450Z 07010KT 040V110 9999 VCTS FEW070 FEW070CB 32/17 Q1021 TEMPO 09015G25KT < 1435850450 466186 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :glad not to be home. < 1435850471 271059 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGNT < 1435850471 729479 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGNT 021450Z VRB03KT 9999 FEW029 22/15 Q1016 < 1435850476 945724 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still can't read these < 1435850480 754888 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(epwa is where I am; eddb is where I'm going tomorrow) < 1435850514 119143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: just look for the number before the / hth < 1435850519 829443 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1435850527 715843 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh < 1435850530 951697 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tyvm < 1435850594 795216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :poland, eh < 1435850617 208528 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :conference < 1435850638 121878 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: doesn't handle wisdoms with slashes in them tdnh < 1435850647 303019 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? /// < 1435850648 74887 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: ///: Is a directory < 1435850651 162541 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually tdh at least moderately < 1435850659 23075 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435850662 363733 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? \/\/\/ < 1435850663 48474 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\/\/\/? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435850664 33101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it doesn't? < 1435850668 854280 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it? < 1435850678 760520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe the initial * is a problem < 1435850708 232950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think plain `wisdom without argument would still work? < 1435850712 177762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom / < 1435850712 383498 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/METAR is obligatory reading for this channel ;) < 1435850713 40801 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°​_o)/¯/¯\(°​_o)/¯ is a misspelling of ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1435850713 188942 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69     | < 1435850713 499282 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   º¯`\o < 1435850727 113625 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have a / in the query string it'll work. < 1435850731 132807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: seems to work splendidly hth < 1435850736 780266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it'll work either way, I guess. < 1435850740 632390 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FEW029 <-- sunny, a few clouds (at 2900 feet) < 1435850740 735398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine tdh tdh < 1435850763 633382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are, of course, still features missing if you'd like to implement them. < 1435850777 618234 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : c.c < 1435850777 844682 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 c.c.c < 1435850777 904560 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  c.c < 1435850794 573498 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435850802 832218 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: when can we mv bin/wisdom bin/\? < 1435850810 5236 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what features are necessary < 1435850838 556574 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435850839 151415 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? myndzi < 1435850839 974762 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi keeps us all on our feet < 1435850846 324711 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it'd have to take an actual redex then. < 1435850850 757273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1435850870 330863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't think they are entirely compatible given that `? must support the literal file < 1435850886 9734 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Ngevd < 1435850886 783158 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​~u`Ӂ> %qo= g^~6.:Sh[6T˨*݀QAZ& 7 < 1435850905 804191 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom reflection < 1435850906 731488 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/cat: : No such file or directory < 1435850912 449030 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? reflection < 1435850913 248753 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat.reflection. < 1435850916 528437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1435850918 366946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: really the behavior i wanted was for `? with no arguments to give a random wisdom < 1435850925 495724 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat cat < 1435850926 626627 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1435850933 161870 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits cat < 1435850934 702464 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Roujo Roujo Roujo oerjan Roujo Roujo Roujo Roujo Roujo Roujo Roujo Roujo < 1435850942 513831 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1435850943 275018 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435850959 913389 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: in that case, changing `? to delegate if no argument? < 1435850968 811851 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, if you want. < 1435850973 617836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't. < 1435850974 561484 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the output formar is different. < 1435850979 440393 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/ >^.^ ARRAY < 1435853650 501543 :Alcest!~alcest@93.186.169.30 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435853852 232922 :Alcest!~alcest@93.186.169.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435853938 405695 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435853997 649485 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION <-- ARRAY < 1435854011 470127 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? array < 1435854012 231111 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :array? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1435854132 423497 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ping < 1435854141 399386 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: pong < 1435854221 355035 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it's weird to be pinged with no sort of followup < 1435854224 96168 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did my pong not get through? < 1435854225 846478 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo pong < 1435854228 47211 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1435854248 18833 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sorry, was just checking something < 1435854249 510343 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pm inbound < 1435854301 360281 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435854696 312439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: there's always pandoc hth < 1435854733 132583 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY ARE YOU HOLDING THE SAME CONVERSATION WITH ME IN AT LEAST THREE DIFFERENT CHANNELS AAAAAH < 1435854851 309553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: easy solution, ban him fro #taneb hth < 1435854853 430257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*from < 1435854878 724124 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:07 -!- mode/#taneb [+o-o Taneb shachaf] by shachaf < 1435854878 940253 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:07 -!- mode/#taneb [-o Taneb] by Taneb < 1435854878 994119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:07 NOW WHERE IS YOUR OP < 1435854880 215164 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I'm not an op in #taneb, and that is not one of the three < 1435854891 463394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1435854934 247218 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://pandoc.org/demo/example9/producing-slide-shows-with-pandoc.html < 1435854966 162880 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pandoc.org/demos.html < 1435854976 944662 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do know what pandoc is < 1435854989 89028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but have you seen all the different slides it can generate < 1435854990 964784 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many formats < 1435855000 324110 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I checked it out the other day < 1435855004 893096 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:38 * hackagebot pandoc 1.15.0.3 - Conversion between markup formats http://hackage.haskell.org/package/pandoc-1.15.0.3 (JohnMacFarlane) < 1435855007 843657 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :actively developed hth < 1435855233 757972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Actilope < 1435855724 324626 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1435855978 695246 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435855983 196009 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's online I wonder < 1435856043 619254 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody at all < 1435856051 443180 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting < 1435856055 890942 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who exists, I wonder < 1435856065 248806 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I do < 1435856088 951544 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So < 1435856098 363078 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For anyone who wasn't present < 1435856106 436887 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I successfully created an Esoteric Markup Language < 1435856178 778038 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A TURING-COMPLETE markup language, too < 1435856186 120007 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which just shouldn't happe < 1435856186 969389 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1435856241 681261 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean like tex? < 1435856276 487927 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TeX wasn't meant to be esoteric < 1435856286 256283 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's weird, but it isn't an esolang < 1435856301 352280 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And \TeX{} isn't Turing-Complete, last time I checked < 1435856324 670926 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: How's the Rainbonic Hello World going? < 1435856420 700220 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck Markup Language14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43395&oldid=43385 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+1) 10) < 1435856464 430913 :password2!~password@197.77.24.240 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435856501 829812 :villasukka!villasukka@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435856506 439395 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1435856534 268383 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's well-established that TeX is TC < 1435856539 574236 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1435856543 405750 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know that < 1435856544 882680 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1435856547 911726 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I'm not aware of the proof < 1435856552 409297 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1435856578 636264 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't latex fully based on tex? < 1435856586 170791 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1435856591 201091 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname! < 1435856591 413723 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, i wrote a bf interpreter in latex < 1435856593 580360 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1435856598 332011 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1435856598 690833 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1435856600 339788 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.o < 1435856615 85613 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So are you still making the Rainbow Hello World? < 1435856657 662379 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the hardest part is tondecide what , will actually do, bit yeah < 1435856682 664403 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1435856683 447810 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great < 1435856693 406718 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can write it in a preprocessed language if you like < 1435856708 574497 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hardest part in coding in latex are arrays < 1435856716 184072 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1435856730 218853 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean tapes, right? < 1435856735 450142 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1435856741 730792 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just trying to wrap my head around the idea of something that's practically a MS Word for smart people being TC < 1435856745 485117 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Arrays? What are those?) < 1435856751 637135 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ifthenelse package makes recursion pretty easy < 1435856759 719219 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be possible to write fractran in tex without excessive effort < 1435856787 282073 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :With non-unary integers? < 1435856795 541865 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: i am not sure, you'd have to have mod and div < 1435856809 410638 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another thing I'm working on that I think'll be pretty cool: < 1435856811 464428 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Junction < 1435856817 109238 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know the App if-this-then-that? < 1435856820 648016 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1435856844 720611 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: it's been done in tikz < 1435856867 741765 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit < 1435856888 17588 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tikz is pretty weird shit sometimes < 1435856951 7132 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't tikz entirely implemented in tex? < 1435856981 373860 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :tikz is frightening < 1435857004 780828 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1435857050 572663 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you mean a direct implementation of fractran in tex < 1435857152 174223 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? you'd need to implement bignums for that, which is somewhat complicated < 1435857179 851546 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's certainly possible, but I don't think you really want to do it < 1435857198 315254 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps you'd just work directly with the prime exponents rather than the product < 1435857523 386522 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435857549 375551 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435857816 848542 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1435858196 102356 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435858498 194132 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435858577 569548 :hppavilion1!42e76e0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.231.110.13 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435858694 249330 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1435861385 49732 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435861655 437706 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435861657 72284 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435861657 367663 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1435861657 421461 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435863746 477653 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1435863830 842560 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435864677 566959 :villasukka!villasukka@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1435864809 909947 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435865060 476612 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435865589 821141 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:InputUsername14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43396&oldid=41729 5* 03InputUsername 5* (-161) 10Removed things I won't finish due to laziness < 1435866332 307316 :villasukka!villasukka@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435866521 395810 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1435866568 70356 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435867288 979588 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :\n < 1435867297 214257 :\n!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1435869047 7607 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :InputUsername is not lazy < 1435869056 830816 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1435869489 749844 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, I think I technically live in a school < 1435869520 71976 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just like the X-Men. < 1435870080 123956 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Phase14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43397&oldid=43324 5* 03Phase 5* (+68) 10link my codegolf account < 1435871274 328588 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435871318 831493 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1435871746 209253 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am gonna have a lot of "fun" next week... < 1435871926 239160 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Repeat after me: "Get on I-80 W. In 1568 miles, take exit 40" < 1435872017 948657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1435872130 910378 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotta go fast. < 1435872305 93056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get on I-80 W. In 1568 miles, take exit 40 < 1435872339 939044 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't break on state boundaries? < 1435872361 191431 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, why would it? < 1435872384 382565 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google Maps does on I-5 S. < 1435872403 376852 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides, exits are renumbered at state borders. < 1435872420 122893 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you might get confused and take the exit with the same number in the wrong state. < 1435872476 270688 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The actual entry is "Follow I-70 W, I-29 N and I-80 W to Zanker Rd in Santa Clara County. Take the Zanker Road exit from CA-237 W (2068 mi)", FWIW. < 1435872503 472153 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, Zanker Rd. < 1435872516 885980 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1435872522 512610 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to live in Milpitas. < 1435872538 588080 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Approximately near one end of 237. < 1435872632 2438 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm. The corporate apartment I'll be at is, uh, *just* outside of Milpitas. < 1435872673 82494 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What! You didn't get the apartments in downtown Mountain View? < 1435872691 713696 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1435872707 536420 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A person who was in this channel (not me) was in one of those. < 1435872708 606348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. fancy < 1435872721 672864 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though there is a Google bus stop literally right there. < 1435872733 209869 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435872739 190257 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Milpitas is the scow of the bay area. < 1435872751 350461 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow? < 1435872797 332811 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1435872811 661524 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a wide-beamed sailing dinghy."? < 1435872834 585845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which team are you going to be on? < 1435872847 605989 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :They haven't told me yet. < 1435872872 366052 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you ever run into gmail folks, ask them what scow means. < 1435872899 130718 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is so confused. < 1435873022 955133 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, housing prices in Milpitas are nowhere near as crazy as they are elsewhere in the area. < 1435873058 952656 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though that seems true of a lot of places that are south of the bay. < 1435873118 249159 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :south bay, more like scowth bay < 1435873161 825617 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i wisdom/ngevd -e 's/tswett/tswift/' < 1435873168 850391 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435873168 904247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you're planning to be car-possessing? < 1435873172 518660 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/ngevd < 1435873173 255961 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngevd is a fake wisdom entry because having an actual infinite file in wisdom/ makes all manner of stuff bloody awkward. `? ngevd is special-cased in bin/?. leave this file alone Phantom_Hoover‼ also tswift‼ < 1435873180 271056 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pagh-feh. < 1435873186 773204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1435873200 206566 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes. < 1435873219 111339 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seeing as I have a car. < 1435873226 696361 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1435873236 880204 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1435873260 540426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tswett < 1435873269 501590 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett is livin' it up with the penguins < 1435873298 508228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append tswett because he's so bad at following directions. < 1435873300 785302 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'tswett': tswett is livin' it up with the penguins because he's so bad at following directions. < 1435873320 54982 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom tswett < 1435873320 964146 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett/tswett is livin' it up with the penguins because he's so bad at following directions. < 1435873326 317441 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1435873355 291972 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1435873371 830103 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/ngevd < 1435873372 588833 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngevd is a fake wisdom entry because having an actual infinite file in wisdom/ makes all manner of stuff bloody awkward. `? ngevd is special-cased in bin/?. leave this file alone Phantom_Hoover‼ also tswett‼ < 1435873382 82631 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: would you please remove my nick from wisdom/ngevd? Thanks. < 1435873452 8731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo > < 1435873452 578614 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​> < 1435873495 869503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait < 1435873582 609622 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo ' ​s' | tr ' ' 't' < 1435873583 393581 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :t​s < 1435873603 952267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed 's/tswett/t​swett/' wisdom/ngevd < 1435873604 593562 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngevd is a fake wisdom entry because having an actual infinite file in wisdom/ makes all manner of stuff bloody awkward. `? ngevd is special-cased in bin/?. leave this file alone Phantom_Hoover‼ also t​swett‼ < 1435873611 479423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/tswett/t​swett/' wisdom/ngevd < 1435873613 265305 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435873616 364199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1435873627 27302 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/ngevd < 1435873627 454692 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngevd is a fake wisdom entry because having an actual infinite file in wisdom/ makes all manner of stuff bloody awkward. `? ngevd is special-cased in bin/?. leave this file alone Phantom_Hoover‼ also t​swett‼ < 1435873638 89725 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I think that worked. < 1435873661 138737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has used that trick a few times before < 1435873661 563868 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonderful. Thank you. < 1435873688 481017 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode t​s < 1435873689 272172 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0074 LATIN SMALL LETTER T] [U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE] [U+0073 LATIN SMALL LETTER S] < 1435873737 127671 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fabulous. < 1435873777 351758 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '[' | unidecode | unidecode | unidecode | unidecode < 1435873778 476744 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ close failed in file object destructor: \ sys.excepthook is missing \ lost sys.stderr < 1435873786 323465 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1435873811 758448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1435873826 249183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo hi | unidecode < 1435873827 528719 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435873839 542750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it's made to take stdin < 1435873841 92157 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, unidecode decodes its argument, not its input. < 1435873866 868580 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unidecode $(unidecode $(unidecode $(unidecode '['))) < 1435873868 197464 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+005B LEFT SQUARE BRACKET] [U+0055 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U] [U+002B PLUS SIGN] [U+0030 DIGIT ZERO] [U+0030 DIGIT ZERO] [U+0035 DIGIT FIVE] [U+0042 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER B] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+004C LATIN CAPITAL LETTER L] [U+0045 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER E] [U+0046 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER F] [U+0054 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER T] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+0053 LATIN CAP < 1435873984 781446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :substitution fixpoint < 1435874031 950187 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there'll be a limiting character frequency given by the eigenvector of the substitution matrix < 1435874123 361636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if the generated shift system is minimal < 1435874132 541086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm yes, obviously < 1435874150 605495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has to contain '[] ' and those generate each other < 1435874180 207963 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this is fairly analogous to thue-morse < 1435874232 796791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :question: do you get every character that's legal in unicode descriptions < 1435874294 749367 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1435874298 685973 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn;t sound like a favorable trait to have in character descriptions. < 1435874303 273749 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sounds < 1435874321 131215 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no, *doesn"t < 1435874332 121982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: i mean names < 1435874352 636729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's something like capital letters, digits and a few other things < 1435874374 416273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess letters have uniform names < 1435874425 634805 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode [U+0123456789 ] < 1435874426 279391 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+005B LEFT SQUARE BRACKET] [U+0055 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U] [U+002B PLUS SIGN] [U+0030 DIGIT ZERO] [U+0031 DIGIT ONE] [U+0032 DIGIT TWO] [U+0033 DIGIT THREE] [U+0034 DIGIT FOUR] [U+0035 DIGIT FIVE] [U+0036 DIGIT SIX] [U+0037 DIGIT SEVEN] [U+0038 DIGIT EIGHT] [U+0039 DIGIT NINE] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+005D RIGHT SQUARE BRACKET] < 1435874711 184169 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any characters in Unicode character names besides capital English letters, numerals, and spaces? < 1435874726 944843 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[U+0523 ] guaranteed < 1435874739 5363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: maybe hyphens? < 1435874761 132390 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is not sure < 1435874816 41676 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode [U+0235 ] < 1435874816 844579 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+005B LEFT SQUARE BRACKET] [U+0055 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U] [U+002B PLUS SIGN] [U+0030 DIGIT ZERO] [U+0032 DIGIT TWO] [U+0033 DIGIT THREE] [U+0035 DIGIT FIVE] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+005D RIGHT SQUARE BRACKET] < 1435874840 867760 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't think of a character that I would expect to have a hyphen in it. < 1435874847 155411 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, wait. < 1435874849 65359 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode - < 1435874849 872570 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+002D HYPHEN-MINUS] < 1435874852 499886 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go. < 1435874872 708730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very circular < 1435874951 217727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ABCDEFGHI are in there, so every digit 0-9 appears < 1435875005 759059 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 日 < 1435875007 127628 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+65E5 CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-65E5] < 1435875018 988962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sort $ nub "[U+005B LEFT SQUARE BRACKET] [U+0055 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U] [U+002B PLUS SIGN] [U+0030 DIGIT ZERO] [U+0031 DIGIT ONE]" < 1435875020 504356 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : " +01235ABCDEFGIKLNOPQRSTUZ[]" < 1435875022 75575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : [U+0032 DIGIT TWO] [U+0033 DIGIT THREE] [U+0034 DIGIT FOUR] < 1435875024 520543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : [U+0035 DIGIT FIVE] [U+0036 DIGIT SIX] [U+0037 DIGIT SEVEN] < 1435875027 33725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : [U+0038 DIGIT EIGHT] [U+0039 DIGIT NINE] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+005D < 1435875030 13366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : RIGHT SQUARE BRACKET] < 1435875036 791794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi, why don't you ever join lines when i _want_ it < 1435875106 447113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sort $ nub "[U+005B LEFT SQUARE BRACKET] [U+0055 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U] [U+002B PLUS SIGN] [U+0030 DIGIT ZERO] [U+0031 DIGIT ONE] [U+0032 DIGIT TWO] [U+0033 DIGIT THREE] [U+0034 DIGIT FOUR] [U+0035 DIGIT FIVE] [U+0036 DIGIT SIX] [U+0037 DIGIT SEVEN] [U+0038 DIGIT EIGHT] [U+0039 DIGIT NINE] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+005D RIGHT SQUARE BRACKET] " < 1435875107 823176 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : " +0123456789ABCDEFGHIKLNOPQRSTUVWXZ[]" < 1435875122 213202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :JMY are missing. < 1435875152 89091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so those won't appear, the rest will, when iterating `unidecode on one of them < 1435875253 486070 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you in a portable C code to run another program and to use the stdin/stdout of that other program? < 1435876466 392463 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435876473 557254 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1435876570 142864 :hppavilion1!3f9bebaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.155.235.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435876819 325141 :quietello!~bcd@209.86.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435876915 864996 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1435876930 680806 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435876930 734547 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1435876930 734580 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435876950 378442 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435876977 739371 :erdic!~erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1435877423 293678 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1435877455 472360 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist PART :#esoteric < 1435878500 369849 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1435878720 985672 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: popen? < 1435879290 270529 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435879474 332997 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pipe, fork, exec IN THAT ORDER < 1435879518 886588 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, define "portable" < 1435879533 722304 :hppavilion1!3f9bebaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.155.235.175 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RTTEINDWPL < 1435879536 199239 :hppavilion1!3f9bebaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.155.235.175 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read < 1435879537 214650 :hppavilion1!3f9bebaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.155.235.175 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try < 1435879538 298455 :hppavilion1!3f9bebaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.155.235.175 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To < 1435879539 760362 :hppavilion1!3f9bebaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.155.235.175 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eval < 1435879541 216905 :hppavilion1!3f9bebaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.155.235.175 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If < 1435879542 78129 :hppavilion1!3f9bebaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.155.235.175 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not < 1435879544 789595 :hppavilion1!3f9bebaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.155.235.175 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Destrow < 1435879549 559933 :hppavilion1!3f9bebaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.155.235.175 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Destroy < 1435879550 751761 :hppavilion1!3f9bebaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.155.235.175 PRIVMSG #esoteric :World < 1435879552 833800 :hppavilion1!3f9bebaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.155.235.175 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Print < 1435879554 354850 :hppavilion1!3f9bebaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.155.235.175 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Loop < 1435881113 17258 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435881369 972077 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435882347 248658 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1435882463 211925 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435882705 999084 :hppavilion1!3f9bebaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.155.235.175 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435883190 536781 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435883710 222795 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435883936 599385 :Froo!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1435884120 320857 :Froox!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435884218 970841 :hppavilion1!3f9bebaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.155.235.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435884574 648070 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435884993 778250 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1435885428 977400 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I mean, it can work in Windows and in Linux (and preferably also BSD and Mac OS X) < 1435885739 706342 :hppavilion1!3f9bebaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.155.235.175 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sooooo < 1435886898 398446 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lessee, guess that would use the C standard library. < 1435886904 913709 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, I'm scrolled up. < 1435886912 636839 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1435886934 523285 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, the thing I responded to is still the thing to be responded to. < 1435888210 694627 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the C standard library actually contain a way to spawn a process besides system()? < 1435888215 316204 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The document of popen says only reading or writing not both < 1435888376 219612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant something like the proc_open() function in PHP but in a C program instead. < 1435888690 275416 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: RECENT CHICKEN < 1435888827 978786 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On Windows I am using MinGW to compile it < 1435888943 17022 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks to me like system() is the only function in the C standard library that spawns a process, and that doesn't do what you want. < 1435888958 346838 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So presumably there is, in fact, a very portable way to do the thing you just said. < 1435888969 802861 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just not actually in the C standard library. < 1435889055 35056 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I might have to use #ifdef but still should try to do in a good way that isn't very complicated < 1435889254 896034 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435889478 52145 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1435889549 387596 :hppavilion1!3f9bebaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.155.235.175 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1435890578 700030 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh < 1435891798 723920 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :girl look at that body < 1435891824 550858 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1435893088 247052 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1435893182 360021 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1435893702 895606 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walpurgisnacht: I take it you've never heard the song "Sexy and I know it" by LMFAO? < 1435893726 264594 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard of it < 1435893740 627069 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I dont listen to that music genre < 1435893939 130786 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435894448 109995 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the best name for "? < 1435894451 232465 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say bunny ears < 1435894516 563904 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that the official INTERCAL name < 1435894553 762378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm no, rabbit ears < 1435895031 288192 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then you might confuse the symbol for a TV antenna < 1435895104 819207 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevermind, those were called both rabbit ears and bunny ears < 1435895250 617879 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :" is dubba kwot < 1435895301 227136 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :: is dubba dot < 1435895336 175198 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :w is of course the dubba yu < 1435896215 179536 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ is monkey < 1435896245 161617 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And & is the ampersand < 1435896305 620817 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What?? < 1435896325 317263 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Onii-chan you're the best especially when you touch my breast < 1435896409 887238 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1435896419 89319 :password2!~password@197.77.5.176 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435896448 509892 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reddit seems to be imploding for real < 1435896460 470711 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1435896492 710835 :password2!~password@197.77.5.176 PART :#esoteric < 1435896494 778275 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright then. < 1435896521 847720 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if that'll affect the non-major boards on it. < 1435896639 919476 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh the FPHers and their supports seem to be out in full force too < 1435896682 84398 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the subreddit blackout seems to be supported by subs I assume are sane, so < 1435896743 67062 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The subreddit blackout wasn't triggered by FPH-shit, mercifully. < 1435896749 801693 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDream: It has. < 1435896785 976435 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: As I understand, this was triggered by the firing of a reddit employee who was *vital* in the operation of AMAs that left r/IAMA high and dry. < 1435896804 108270 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Said employee was also most mod's sole source of contact with reddit ordinarily. < 1435896821 975251 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43398&oldid=42988 5* 0376.99.100.98 5* (+342) 10added ti-68k implementation < 1435896822 133426 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, thought it wasn't just that, but also lack of notification of such < 1435896826 312296 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there was no indication she was being fired, and no indication of why, and no indication of what any mods are supposed to do. < 1435896863 163296 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the mods of a lot of subreddits were *already* pretty irritated at perceived lack of any sort of communication from reddit. < 1435896878 519205 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just, mostly in private) < 1435896896 383810 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "no indication of why" is probably normal I think, no need to embarrass the employee further, but yeah, some indication of what's going to happen and what to do next would be critical < 1435896951 975420 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I agree, I'm just saying that it left mods of some big reddits lost and confused with *no* information other than "she's fired". < 1435896952 224958 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bxduw/why_was_riama_along_with_a_number_of_other_large/ This post explains everything < 1435896992 106214 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1435897134 353488 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :TLDR: the only thing that we know for sure is a bunch of people aren't happy. < 1435897159 288428 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reddit admins claimed they have people to take her responsibilities, but... they should have communicated to the mods < 1435897162 794702 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iiuc < 1435897172 139979 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1435897204 74112 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was (pretty clearly) the straw that broke the camel's back. < 1435897299 691469 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fired by the GestaPao." of course the "we don't like the no harassment rule" crowd is taking advantage < 1435897323 880326 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well *yeah*. < 1435897395 576162 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a glorious opportunity to go "look, see, see, SHES TERRIBLE!" < 1435897423 757044 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esomarklets14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43399 5* 03JayCampbell 5* (+910) 10New concept < 1435897442 460722 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And more people can't read and say it's "Reddit CEO Ellen Pao fired Victoria for unknown reasons, and tons of major subs are going private (probably temporarily) in protest." < 1435897447 289124 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/casualiama/comments/3bxje2/ama_request_victoria_former_reddit_employee_for/ < 1435897481 759251 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I'm not supporting Reddit's failure to communicate < 1435897538 569343 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well at most, mods can only keep anything private as long as the admin team doesn't replace them. < 1435897552 748404 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDream: That would *kill* reddit. < 1435897561 825362 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Yeah. < 1435897571 459263 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: It's a clusterfuck. < 1435897599 688340 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't visit Reddit, so no idea how much the general traffic would care about a big mod turnover. < 1435897625 227909 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lynching. < 1435897658 675785 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the more powerful conceits in the culture is that each subreddit is self-regulated. < 1435897694 283364 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/r/netsec is down. I need it. < 1435897696 487388 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, that'd make reddit the new digg. < 1435897737 792771 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDream: I wonder how much luck the admin team would have moderating a large subreddit where all the mods have left < 1435897764 418283 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. There's a lot of large subreddits and those were previously run by volunteers. < 1435897825 373146 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I knew they were moderated independently, but no idea how things usually go over there. < 1435897836 396821 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'll just wait and find out. < 1435897853 362921 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flames and hostility. /r/subredditdrama is a good collection < 1435897874 825903 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esomarklets14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43400&oldid=43399 5* 03JayCampbell 5* (+45) 10typos < 1435897877 419945 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, reddit has a lot of drama. < 1435897890 482375 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to ignore it, but there's a *lot* of drama around there. < 1435897898 747013 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly just curious if JanusVR's going to keep its board on Reggit or not. < 1435897925 962389 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Along with other projects that figured "Well, I use Reddit, why *not* make the main board there?" < 1435897945 421546 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JanusVR still insecure afaict, news at 11 < 1435897949 524057 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I should check again < 1435897955 86160 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh? < 1435897963 625957 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it ever a security application? < 1435897967 859052 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the "reddit alternatives" are going down because of the inrush of people < 1435897981 350003 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cookies from web surfaces do not have the domain stored. So a.com can read b.com's cookies < 1435897997 220781 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1435898025 116111 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cookies were never a well designed thing to begin with, though that is worse. < 1435898122 450481 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Javascript wasn't either < 1435898163 186471 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Browsers tend to presume a website designer's control over user experience is a higher priority than user control of the machine. < 1435898166 112098 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure this is a great time to watch reddit with a bag of popcorn. < 1435898200 321027 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Operating systems too, at times. < 1435898299 496506 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDream, how many users have the faintest idea how to control their machine? < 1435898314 678669 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And would screw something up then blame the website? < 1435898400 8982 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe if the web were better designed with sane semantic syntax and webdevs it would work out < 1435898603 390265 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDream: That and other reasons is why I had idea we needed to define the new browser < 1435898760 172336 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The new design would involve many thing including some CSS doesn't work, JavaScripts doesn't work, HSTS doesn't work, and in some cases some CSS specifications can be ignored, such as if you specify background color but not foreground or vice-versa, or if the text and background color is defined for the entire document but not defined for parts of the document, then the color specification is ignored. < 1435898815 322717 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also each tab has its own user settings too, normally inheriting the one that opened it < 1435899162 463385 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it would treat URLs that the user enters to navigate to as relative, have no toolbar/menubar/icons/etc, and to warn the user when a redirection or link goes to a IP address that is only for local/loopback or a domain name that resolves to such an address (these settings can be overridden) < 1435899358 265495 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't sound like it'd be very usable for me < 1435899399 463335 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the danger in local redirects? < 1435899436 796773 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also no one uses URLs these days, everyone googles the URL then clicks the first result < 1435899454 264802 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Probably not the modern experience but I assume many users have equally insane flows) < 1435899463 516616 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use URLs though < 1435899481 46143 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes but you're not computer illiterate < 1435899495 135866 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can also define your own shortcuts that start with a colon though < 1435899496 802904 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I propose we move everything to gopher < 1435899513 833116 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435899520 838233 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it would not be made for computer-illiterate people (who shouldn't try to use a computer anyways) < 1435899565 361108 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: You can put many thing on gopher but some things isn't, and some things won't work very well with it (although, some things might work better with SSH, telnet, command-line, whatever, too) < 1435899611 564142 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I would also need the function you can use the interactive controls to try to make a command-line version of a website that works without the web-browser < 1435899675 262055 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can server html + css + js over gopher < 1435899686 968368 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently a channel is trying to become the biggest on Freenode by filling up with thousands of versions of the same bot < 1435899945 894189 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. < 1435899959 617117 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1435899973 344749 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its all from an amazon isp < 1435899993 157842 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mercifully burned out on internet drama back when I was on a forum in 2004. < 1435900019 706610 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohmai < 1435900036 351049 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore I'm not in any way involved with any of the shit going down on Tumblr, Reddit, Youtube etc < 1435900049 982449 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435900069 540187 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's goin on with you oren? < 1435900096 468185 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Yes you can, but you don't need to often plain text work just fine < 1435900098 298043 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I got a new job last week and it's going well < 1435900108 246696 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I'm just sitting and watching, personally. < 1435900109 974787 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Many of my own files I make as just as plain text) < 1435900512 420846 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if /r/OutOfTheLoop shuts down < 1435900521 574377 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then madness. < 1435900536 559641 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mods have decided, BTW, they won't shut down even if they're the last sub open. < 1435900589 404070 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes sense < 1435900604 277977 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although they didn't ask to be in the position of the best source of information < 1435900634 127977 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are all the sub reddits collapsing < 1435900677 873067 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bxduw/why_was_riama_along_with_a_number_of_other_large/ < 1435900813 875504 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do put many things on gopher and plain text, but not everything does < 1435901048 265987 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A very simple method of file sharing is to make a cloud server, put your files on it owned by root with only read perms, and tell people to log in as user: guest pass: guest < 1435901120 968986 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1435901127 514103 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But no one has time for that < 1435901435 838291 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/3by2nk/a_message_to_our_users/ < 1435901440 829145 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the science in every comment < 1435901768 116262 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww yes, photos of Pluto < 1435903237 679796 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha < 1435904117 197075 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: "The admins literally made a decision so fucking stupid that SRS and KotakuInAction are in agreement on something." < 1435904206 186446 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, o.O < 1435904227 424241 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is pretty telling. < 1435904438 451532 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435904459 415176 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, link to that comment? < 1435904738 411256 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Already closed tab. It was just someone talking about the subject. < 1435904840 890245 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435905109 163920 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1435905372 305233 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZbqAMEwtOE < 1435905880 391147 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1435906358 222985 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord < 1435906563 370677 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1435906822 684913 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435906827 433646 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Use the POSIX C Library? < 1435906842 261542 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compilers like MinGW provide a POSIX layer. < 1435907019 692883 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :using fork/pipe/exec* you might be able to do that. < 1435907038 116143 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and redirect stdin/stdout to the pipes < 1435907120 13400 :llue!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435907120 258074 :llue!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1435907120 311778 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435907174 468908 :MoALTz_!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435907276 52027 :nortti_!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435907301 647366 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435907313 572109 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1435907314 171120 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1435907314 311677 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1435907314 469755 :MoALTz__!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1435907320 251709 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1435907356 661911 :perrier_!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435908566 956119 :glowcoil_!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session JOIN :#esoteric < 1435908657 877619 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uzyyyknkwwpkeapc QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1435908662 167003 :glowcoil_!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session QUIT :Changing host < 1435908662 220956 :glowcoil_!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mxxtqyftpkuxuxks JOIN :#esoteric < 1435908685 61770 :glowcoil_!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mxxtqyftpkuxuxks NICK :glowcoil < 1435909830 953788 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1435909944 154777 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1435911482 608353 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435912037 258670 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: uhm? < 1435912051 356189 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then you need to set ulimits and what not. < 1435912061 211999 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise guests will just spawn fork bombs and whatever < 1435912126 583705 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just use a small webserver? < 1435912132 661368 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that provides a directory listing < 1435912243 299201 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl. < 1435912249 420890 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :IANA takes requests really seriously < 1435912587 981863 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is good, I guess. < 1435912738 87907 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl PART :#esoteric < 1435912746 978934 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435913978 290722 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1435914340 865398 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Port registrations are free, right? < 1435914496 1324 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have read the forms and RFCs and couldn't find anything mentioning that it costs money < 1435914511 75072 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my fucking anxiety "disorder" keeps giving me shivers that I run into hidden costs < 1435914697 528806 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435915295 538778 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435915411 802470 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435916988 754754 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1435916998 97005 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: rebooting < 1435917216 512042 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1435917482 25526 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1435918824 635054 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should switch fungot to some other freenode server, it seems more prone to dropping off than usual. < 1435918971 731993 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1435918973 171928 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1435919105 663459 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1435919432 87783 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: got fun? < 1435919432 550992 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: you can just stick in a or v in a code clause. they know how to deal with < 1435919449 691974 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: don't tell me what to do with my a or v. < 1435919450 166571 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: decrement a register until it's zero and you have an idea how long she's going to evolve them? escape the space? prints just fine. < 1435919607 689297 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435920032 849902 :quietello!~bcd@209.86.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1435921314 927995 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, can you move my coordinate a little bit further east? < 1435921497 829381 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle! < 1435921511 492574 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much eastness would you like me to add? < 1435921517 57974 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a tda < 1435921518 587706 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tad < 1435921525 674845 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am afraid I must disappear to lunch now, though < 1435921552 341585 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's very East, if you're having lunch. < 1435921794 184827 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to have lunch at 10:30am every day, back at the university in Finland. < 1435921811 348049 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's when the campus restaurants generally open.) < 1435922112 767935 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were a student. it's a perfectly natural phenomenon. < 1435922134 947736 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: INNATE CHICKEN < 1435922631 619164 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :regular lunch time is 11:40am < 1435922636 743908 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything else is plain crazy < 1435922643 51744 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: When do you eat lunch? < 1435922643 157724 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: a fourth begin to fit inside that lambda? < 1435922653 742686 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. fungot uses lambda time. < 1435922654 165830 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: possibly fnord ogel for the position. i wonder what would happen if i decrement the pointer, i'll have to reconstruct my generic stream-based zipper code to convince you, theoretically. < 1435924115 809412 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was a perfectly sensible time to have lunch < 1435924334 417171 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just after 12, it was < 1435924556 118703 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe I should use mailing lists more (or usenet) or something, for when I want to ask complicated questions about computers that are tricky to ask on IRC, especially at less busy times when nobody is listening. < 1435924604 477644 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am foiled by the fact that I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I AM DOING HELP < 1435924607 811117 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435924621 585226 :yorick!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435924621 749427 :yorick!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl QUIT :Changing host < 1435924621 803303 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1435924622 24123 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435924652 968372 :yorick!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435924653 81929 :yorick!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl QUIT :Changing host < 1435924653 135642 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1435925093 657067 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java has some weird rules when dead-code is considered to be an error or just a warning < 1435925118 660678 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait. < 1435925119 134124 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1435925126 119801 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it distinguishes between dead-code and unreachable-code < 1435925167 916069 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the difference? < 1435925197 145930 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe that's just eclipse. < 1435925258 814689 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Object obj = null; if(obj == null) return; foobar(); < 1435925264 753673 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the call to foobar() will be marked as dead-code < 1435925272 740252 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Object obj = null; return; foobar(); < 1435925277 805674 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then foobar() will be marked as unreachable-code < 1435925331 85298 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead-code is when code depends on some conditional < 1435925338 504091 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1435925356 474008 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if(true) return; foobar(); < 1435925360 74576 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :will actually just trigger dead code < 1435925390 834886 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only the notion of 'reachability' is defined by the JLS. I assume the dead code parts are some Eclipse static analysis thing. < 1435925401 141932 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think so, yes. < 1435925452 606412 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Except for the special treatment of while, do, and for statements whose condition expression has the constant value true, the values of expressions are not taken into account in the flow analysis." < 1435925466 392872 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(JLS) < 1435925506 673752 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why if(true) return; foobar(); won't trigger unreachable code < 1435925521 834257 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but while(true); foobar(); will trigger it < 1435925547 940474 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is weird. < 1435925552 606699 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did they exclude if(true)? < 1435925570 264233 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they had to decide where to draw the line < 1435925579 116676 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And just decided not to bother checking conditionals < 1435925587 600559 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: but they check it in loops < 1435925593 698339 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not in if < 1435925601 244320 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1435925609 279297 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1435925617 629050 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if(true) return; foobar(); compiles < 1435925621 615791 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :while(true); foobar(); won't < 1435925640 307837 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :as fizzie quoted: while, do and for have a special handling for the constant value true < 1435925644 300444 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if does not. < 1435925685 509373 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about while(true) return; foobar();? < 1435925700 904896 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't compile, but it has nothing to do with the 'return'. < 1435925718 291457 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :while(true) {return; foobar();}? < 1435925759 96604 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would also have foobar(); as unreachable, but just based on the analysis within the block. < 1435926017 988653 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the rationale I saw for not special-casing conditionals mentioned the case of something like if (DBG) doSomethingSpecial(); -- per the language specification, if DBG is a final variable, special-casing of the form "if (false) X; means X is not executed" would make all those lines errors if DBG was set to false. < 1435926047 784520 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(References to final variables count as constant expressions.) < 1435926289 124142 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, closer to the "if (true) return;" example, you could imagine if (LEAN_AND_MEAN) return simpleApproximation(); return somethingVeryComplicated(); and a compile-time toggle to select what to use, which would have unreachable code no matter which way LEAN_AND_MEAN is defined. Not that that's perhaps very idiomatic Java; I'm sure the "proper" way would be something like having an interface ... < 1435926295 257517 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... and a dependency injection framework to select implementation classes, or whatever. < 1435926353 143331 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just exclude non-final variables < 1435926358 739149 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then boolean DBG = true; would work < 1435926399 389547 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or use getters/setters < 1435926402 195657 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if(isDebug()) < 1435926442 849243 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would mean a whole new definition of what "constant expression" is, for possibly very little benefit, since the cases where there's *actually* a literal 'true' or 'false' in a conditional are probably pretty contrived. < 1435926461 109341 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the rationale's actually right at the end of the reachability chapter, and it's exactly the conditional-compilation thing. < 1435926527 502291 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :without final it's hard to make dead code elimination < 1435926536 828764 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the if condition would be always checked at runtime < 1435926541 810581 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :having a slight performance impact < 1435926549 259090 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess having if as a special case really makes sense < 1435926564 696507 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This approach [of special-casing true/false] would be consistent with the treatment of other control structures. However, in order to allow the if statement to be used conveniently for "conditional compilation" purposes, the actual rules differ. As an example, the following statement results in a compile-time error: while (false) { x=3; } because the statement x=3; is not reachable; but the ... < 1435926570 695368 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... superficially similar case: if (false) { x=3; } does not result in a compile-time error. An optimizing compiler may realize that the statement x=3; will never be executed and may choose to omit the code for that statement from the generated class file, but the statement x=3; is not regarded as "unreachable" in the technical sense specified here. The rationale for this differing treatment ... < 1435926576 797346 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... is to allow programmers to define "flag variables" such as: static final boolean DEBUG = false; and then write code such as: if (DEBUG) { x=3; } The idea is that it should be possible to change the value of DEBUG from false to true or from true to false and then compile the code correctly with no other changes to the program text. This ability to "conditionally compile" has no ... < 1435926582 740083 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... relationship to binary compatibility (§13 (Binary Compatibility)). If a set of classes that use such a "flag" variable are compiled and conditional code is omitted, it does not suffice later to distribute just a new version of the class or interface that contains the definition of the flag. The classes that use the flag will not see its new value, so their behavior may be surprising, but ... < 1435926588 759351 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... no LinkageError will occur. A change to the value of a flag is, therefore, binary compatible with pre-existing binaries, but not behaviorally compatible." < 1435926591 718450 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's probably not very readable. < 1435926645 570304 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435926697 51988 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead code elimination would break binary compatibility < 1435926700 145894 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1435926704 67605 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :some cases of it < 1435926736 978040 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That thing about allowing -- actually, I think it might even be required -- the baking of final values into classes that use them is I think also rationalized by the conditional-compliation-and-efficiency arguments. < 1435926853 315307 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :removing unused members certainly can break stuff :) < 1435926894 286704 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If a field is a constant variable (§4.12.4), and moreover is static, then deleting the keyword final or changing its value will not break compatibility with pre-existing binaries by causing them not to run, but they will not see any new value for a usage of the field unless they are recompiled. This result is a side-effect of the decision to support conditional compilation (§14.21). (One ... < 1435926900 394461 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... might suppose that the new value is not seen if the usage occurs in a constant expression (§15.28) but is seen otherwise. This is not so; pre-existing binaries do not see the new value at all.)" < 1435926911 819193 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know Proguard is quite capable of breaking stuff, too. < 1435926937 189921 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1435926943 686805 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It messes up things that relies on reflection < 1435926959 657278 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like runtime injection and the like < 1435926977 839095 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it probably also renames method names in beans < 1435926982 270018 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which breaks a shitload of stuff < 1435927122 289300 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did you use Proguard? < 1435927510 470652 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably not technically allowed to go into details about any work stuff, and I haven't used Proguard for anything I've done for fun. < 1435927589 485242 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I think it's relatively well-known that big Android apps tend to benefit from Proguarding w.r.t. dex method limits and such. I see it's even one of the official recommendations of things to try: https://developer.android.com/tools/building/multidex.html < 1435927645 59552 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you have built an Android app and received this error, then congratulations, you have a lot of code!" So whimsical. < 1435927848 794567 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : You could've been rich. -- My mother, proguard < 1435927849 701053 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1435927855 142004 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :suck it open software! < 1435929378 775717 :nortti_!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1435930737 109970 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1435930874 986709 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw. come on < 1435930878 320130 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitbucket has a referer check < 1435931212 388971 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435931730 771116 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435931929 97489 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@212-88-251-57.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1435931940 729574 :AndoDaan!~AndoDaan@212-88-251-57.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric < 1435932051 466198 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435932364 20866 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vzuvtonyytownuxv QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1435932522 579939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1435933090 307254 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@85.133.27.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435934407 381388 :Froo!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz NICK :Frooxius < 1435934994 282748 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@85.133.27.55 QUIT :Quit: A IRC Client Of Some Form. Not Sure Though - Might Be Turkey Sandwich. < 1435935432 327300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1435935570 930101 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :And here I go, training yet another neural net on the #esoteric logs. < 1435935661 8429 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Would you want your babble model to be reinterpreted as some sort of a deep recurrent neural network? < 1435935661 366726 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's about fnord. i'm trying to transform the cases it can't refer to information, how can you have an exe lying around somewhere if you're interested < 1435935681 458357 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if that's a yes or a no, but I'm not about to implement it either way. < 1435935739 374316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1435935764 670362 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I still haven't even fixed the use of the backoff weights in the n-gram sampling Funge code.) < 1435935771 58163 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :53:27:50: you bors inf mite darpikh in asce are ult hapaatud tor arypo leatet thas) < 1435935775 449307 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty accurate. < 1435935796 144754 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given how late in the day that is, it seems quite reasonable. < 1435935850 69445 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435935863 789555 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --esolangs 20 < 1435935864 781144 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shake qwert recurscript minius channah *w wilson puzzlank fractal oozlybub brain minius 2iota gecha smation ozone9000 noobare f murphy godscraffic < 1435935955 59691 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would be nice of `words had a filter that'd reject words originally in the training set. Although maybe it's part of the fun to actually occasionally get real words when it comes to natural languages. < 1435935958 993952 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --finnish 20 < 1435935960 24949 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :laavistä nopeimpaa epäisemilleni hakintohisti agitaimat paansa kuuttavallesi teräisellisimmiksi syväjännerotteelli vaamme rahtuvaltoivalmi koistisempii heimaksikirkkää vaksenne ahkeämpää kohduttamili myyvillaajen taisenne neuvottamme harmaltisempi < 1435935992 768241 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --english 10 < 1435935993 601233 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: english < 1435936000 572152 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --help < 1435936001 353942 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: words [-dhNo] [DATASETS...] [NUMBER_OF_WORDS] \ \ options: \ -l, --list list valid datasets \ -d, --debug debugging output \ -N, --dont-normalize don't normalize frequencies when combining \ multiple Markov models; this has the effect \ of making larger dataset < 1435936005 707 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1435936007 88596 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's 'eng1m' or something. < 1435936008 755605 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words -l < 1435936009 643366 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :valid datasets: --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --french --german --hebrew --russian --spanish --irish --german-medical --bulgarian --catalan --swedish --brazilian --canadian-english-insane --manx --italian --ogerman --portuguese --polish --gaelic --finnish --norwegian --esolangs \ default: --eng-1M < 1435936015 941774 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, eng-1M. And eng-all. < 1435936019 894161 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words 10 < 1435936021 590893 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :saunizinai mult leituilla casie emblack vlevallm rashman kate reer voten < 1435936033 403185 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --italian 10 < 1435936034 159072 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rifina dentavano speteste attridiassi accatastionifica univamo tuggi dall'inte convulghi anghinia < 1435936068 530052 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"vlevallm" seems like a totally legit English word, yes. < 1435936093 593562 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --eng-gb 10 # talk like a British lord < 1435936097 839372 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :domum aca circu inde eque tberg wilh str uvrena probach < 1435936119 492577 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm more impressed by --esolangs and --finnish than the English outputs, honestly. < 1435936168 969458 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Randomly generated esolang name: Tistribtikive < 1435936259 695565 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the low-temperature setting, this thing likes to produce *extremely* long bfjoust commands. < 1435936283 430630 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure each one is something like a thousand characters long. < 1435937041 299077 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1435937057 65126 :supay_!uid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lqrkwnjdnpkmdnhf JOIN :#esoteric < 1435937265 141255 :supay_!uid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lqrkwnjdnpkmdnhf NICK :supay < 1435938597 145280 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435938695 879853 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xlkibmfiruybbztz QUIT : < 1435939049 717158 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435939231 45675 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vjmuswzkwfetkvby JOIN :#esoteric < 1435940029 907503 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --dutch < 1435940031 6629 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: dutch < 1435940034 432312 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :sad < 1435940068 193633 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --german < 1435940069 932509 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :versen < 1435940078 720834 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --german 20 < 1435940080 288357 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :erhältnik grilhasen wegungsnachtsgleie modenstenuz gedankflussenhärtyre infuhr zonensbezoge diskomentöfset flußzahngriftsv beystem urschler wolksamiith motischen bedria stempel födelsordichtmus wiedlereisen phaservermäß perren vierenz < 1435940090 941886 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoses are very german < 1435941429 522770 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you show me the codes to redirect this pipes/fork/exec two-ways with MinGW? I read somewhere that on Windows the popen function doesn't work with GUI programs (so presumably doesn't work with Glk) < 1435941589 189537 :supay!uid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lqrkwnjdnpkmdnhf QUIT : < 1435942002 578290 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1435942022 816130 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435942071 535902 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1435942184 914222 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435942783 894141 :password2!~password@197.77.70.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435942794 518322 :password2!~password@197.77.70.242 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435942840 130026 :password2!~password@197.77.70.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435943415 267462 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bfpkgirtsanmfuxq QUIT : < 1435943429 56651 :ocharles__!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xbhxjkbgdyvyxjhr JOIN :#esoteric < 1435943625 129821 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1435945869 932659 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435945870 26134 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1435945870 26200 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435946064 79498 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1435946498 199535 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vjmuswzkwfetkvby QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1435946558 112395 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435946966 291227 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1435946981 520504 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435947524 446614 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is wegungsnachtgleie < 1435947741 801904 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1435947761 25970 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1435948686 965899 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esomarklets14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43401&oldid=43400 5* 03JayCampbell 5* (-955) 10withdrawn by author < 1435948928 932113 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1435948943 738810 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435949082 736502 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1435949990 261854 :japh!d054c541@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.84.197.65 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435949997 84065 :japh!d054c541@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.84.197.65 NICK :jayCampbell < 1435950057 126021 :password2!~password@197.77.70.242 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435950092 582823 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1435950094 711143 :jayCampbell!d054c541@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.84.197.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm abstracting in javascript for bf derivatives < 1435950108 209947 :lawspeaker!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1435950149 700564 :jayCampbell!d054c541@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.84.197.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric : var machine = new TapeMachine({ '+' : 'm.tape[this.pc]++;' , '-' : 'm.tape[this.pc]--;' , '>' : 'm.pc++;' , '<' : 'm.pc--;' , ',' : 'm.tape[m.pc]=m.input();' , '.' : 'm.output( m.tape[m.pc] );' , '[' : 'while( m.tape[m.pc] !=0 ) {' , ']' : 'if( m.tape[m.pc]==0 ) break; }' }, 100); < 1435950181 161549 :jayCampbell!d054c541@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.84.197.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :machine.run( "++++++++[>++++[>++>+++>+++>+<<<<-]>+>+>->>+[<]<-]>>.>---.+++++++..+++.>>.<-.<.+++.------.--------.>>+.>++."); < 1435951445 565865 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl NICK :mauris < 1435952317 959116 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GolfScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43402&oldid=35741 5* 0398.144.6.77 5* (+42) 10/* External resources */ Changed Golfscript homepage link to latest working one from the Wayback Machine < 1435952331 675787 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :any regexp wizards present? < 1435952414 111526 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435952475 151809 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on the question, i guess < 1435952585 112920 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a big text file, with a bunch of date stamps that look like this: 2014-09-15T23:22:25 < 1435952598 90535 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to lop off the T and everything after it, leaving only the date. < 1435953198 397644 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1435953217 257569 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :T\d\d:\d\d:\d\d < 1435953350 367968 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You fucking assholes downvoted it for no other reason than "lol fuck Ellen Pao" after screaming that she needs to come in and say something. You fucking people are unbelievable." < 1435953390 650725 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, enough downvotes in the sub in question apparently triggered automoderator to hide her post, which people then assumed was her deleting it < 1435953561 554967 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435953704 57444 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: yes, I hear reddit's finally descended into complete anarchy these days. < 1435955259 104687 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: What's the post? < 1435955430 217744 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/3byaei/reddit_alternatives_other_subs_going_private_to/csr0by6 < 1435955870 755380 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435955916 282220 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :J_Arcane: s/\([[:digit:]]\{4\}-[[:digit:]]\{2\}-[[:digit:]]\{2\}}\)T[[:digit:]]\{2\}:[[:digit:]]\{2\}:[[:digit:]]\{2\}/\1/g < 1435956883 792968 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1435957314 194042 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1435958832 340085 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does my face itch so much < 1435959064 302197 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435959070 252372 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 QUIT :Changing host < 1435959070 306311 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1435959079 25081 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist PART :#esoteric < 1435960931 663486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1435961138 205061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I am foiled by the fact that I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I AM DOING HELP <-- a common problem. < 1435961344 677651 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435962304 135687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently girl genius is doing art pages only because kaja foglio hurt her back... < 1435962450 498374 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i whom did she hurt back? < 1435962473 424041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats shachaf -----### < 1435962487 138757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume that's what you wanted hth < 1435962508 446680 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :was not specifically aiming for it < 1435962550 996886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do the aiming here hth < 1435963219 442082 :jayCampbell!d054c541@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.84.197.65 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1435964900 719977 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1435964924 184539 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1435965075 894684 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GolfScript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43403&oldid=43402 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-17) 10/* External resources */ template < 1435965082 639142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh that took a while < 1435965104 399515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was about to ping fizzie that the link was broken again < 1435965108 106052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hi!) < 1435965150 127140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask jayCampbell do you want Esomarklets deleted altogether? < 1435965150 230179 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1435965265 968770 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :When i was young i was interested in creating my own spoken language < 1435965304 576226 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now im doing the same thing but with computers. Its easier to convince a computer to speak your language than it is to convince a human < 1435965306 581027 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :言語を作る事難しいですね。 < 1435965337 511731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone else keep getting sporadic TLS errors with reddit < 1435965348 103619 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't. < 1435965352 275917 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never do < 1435965356 927647 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again i dont reddit < 1435965382 851473 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435965386 94850 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellu < 1435965789 715289 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sometimes get sporadic TLS errors with Wikipedia < 1435965832 254323 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you're seeing NSA TLS breaking attacks. < 1435965858 803445 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if 2D languages will ever be used commercially... < 1435965990 865105 :MoALTz__!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435966013 659566 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to _make_ a commercially-viable 2D lang... < 1435966058 522190 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I doubt I could do it :P < 1435966158 306544 :MoALTz_!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435966225 676805 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1435966280 352222 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1 http://staraban.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/unreal-engine-4-blueprint-editor.jpg < 1435966376 58380 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1435966377 402361 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird. < 1435966389 667540 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making a language called Generic 2D Brainfuck :P < 1435966554 764987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't there an ancient 2d language that _was_ used commercially < 1435966562 221633 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esolangs arent generally commercially viable < 1435966577 817560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ancient as in '80s or thereabouts < 1435966600 199439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks the prehistory page < 1435966715 12781 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435966755 286888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Biota < 1435966771 970934 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.keithschwarz.com/kleene/ The kleene program accepts as input a C++ program, then produces a new C++ file that includes a function kleene::MySource() that returns a copy of the program's source code. < 1435966850 594227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Biota, devised by Ward Cunningham, is an esoteric programming language in two dimensions and sold for a net profit in 1991 (predating Befunge)." < 1435966872 586940 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish i could sell something for a net profit < 1435966909 97656 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then maybe my wife would respect me < 1435966985 197141 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1435967098 384758 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Generic 2D Brainfuck14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43404 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+2659) 10Created Page < 1435967172 799508 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know biota < 1435967181 945624 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's never been used commercially as far as I know < 1435967323 572082 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1435967341 635516 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:2D BF14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43405&oldid=24985 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+259) 10Generic 2D Brainfuck < 1435967374 736814 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:2D BF14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43406&oldid=43405 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (-1) 10Whoops. Codified my sig. < 1435967498 471377 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Rdococ14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43407&oldid=43294 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+316) 10/* Peano */ new section < 1435967700 674575 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM TOP EDITOR OF THE DAY < 1435967706 283061 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FEAR MY WRATH < 1435967710 653085 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1435967826 825607 :MoALTz__!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435967953 40592 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sooooooo < 1435968006 588038 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435968032 387573 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:2d95:1c6c:90c1:bc22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435968548 56449 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm lonely :( < 1435968734 377004 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi lonely < 1435968754 737682 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:2d95:1c6c:90c1:bc22 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1435968803 826169 :hppavilion1!0c82758f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.117.143 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435969832 579108 :ER28-0652!~elliot@177.19.121.187 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435969932 725908 :ER28-0652!~elliot@177.19.121.187 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to turn Deadfish into something useful? < 1435970040 178306 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ER28-0652: sushi? :D < 1435970047 153522 :ER28-0652!~elliot@177.19.121.187 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1435970298 126756 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1435970439 502791 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1435970605 544292 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1435970751 183893 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1435971001 152024 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1435971035 986992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ER28-0652: i think the answer is obviously yes, but not in any interesting way. < 1435971054 681868 :ER28-0652!~elliot@177.19.121.187 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm doing a variant of deadfish < 1435971085 473046 :ER28-0652!~elliot@177.19.121.187 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how okay is this for now: http://pastebin.com/1TnjCths ? < 1435971097 433544 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there's already a deadfish derivative. < 1435971139 958260 :ER28-0652!~elliot@177.19.121.187 PRIVMSG #esoteric :deadfish~ < 1435971150 478788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you still have no flow control, i see < 1435971190 857360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ER28-0652: btw you're aware of deadfish's 256 weirdness, right? < 1435971198 555403 :ER28-0652!~elliot@177.19.121.187 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1435971401 165294 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435971424 841022 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I wear my shirt inside out the entire universe is wearing my shirt outside in < 1435971452 378462 :ER28-0652!~elliot@177.19.121.187 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it? < 1435971495 946698 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:2d95:1c6c:90c1:bc22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walpurgisnacht: Have you read Douglas Adams' Dirk Gently books? < 1435971496 634128 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think its a theorum < 1435971497 860205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this implies that Walpurgisnacht is outside the universe < 1435971517 713565 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well no oerjan < 1435971532 430567 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually < 1435971537 828344 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nvm < 1435971550 510482 :ER28-0652!~elliot@177.19.121.187 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should I add? http://pastebin.com/B6YTD2Qn < 1435971565 912863 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wallacoloo no I have not? < 1435971585 346310 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :- the '?' < 1435971599 339256 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:2d95:1c6c:90c1:bc22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walpurgisnacht: One of the Dirk Gently books contains a person who puts the rest of the world in an asylum just by building a house in which all the exterior walls and interior walls are reversed. < 1435971608 40211 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:2d95:1c6c:90c1:bc22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty similar to the t-shirt thing. < 1435971638 300459 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you reverse a wall its still a wall unless the wall has a fixture on the opposite side < 1435971779 174842 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:2d95:1c6c:90c1:bc22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walpurgisnacht: It's been a while since I read it, but I think this was taken care of. He had things like the windows open from the "outside" instead of the "inside", etc. < 1435971795 949052 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:2d95:1c6c:90c1:bc22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bigger issue is that the "interior" of this house is essentially unbounded. < 1435971825 105509 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha! It was Gödel's theorem < 1435971868 94460 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well why doesnt someone just make a 'house' like that < 1435971872 639271 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good art project < 1435971955 610299 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:2d95:1c6c:90c1:bc22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. I wouldn't be surprised if somebody already has! I mean, there are numerous "upside down" houses out there. http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/u450/curiousplaces111/Upside-downhouseTrassenheide3.jpg < 1435971973 165893 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:2d95:1c6c:90c1:bc22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anything, it would be easier to accomplish. < 1435972023 867134 :ER28-0652!~elliot@177.19.121.187 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so.. < 1435972034 170708 :ER28-0652!~elliot@177.19.121.187 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does that mean? < 1435972393 951418 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1435972515 708473 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : this implies that Walpurgisnacht is outside the universe: < Tbh if the universe worked like that oerjan many people would erase their existence accidently on a hangover / to dark room in the morning day < 1435972612 411587 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:2d95:1c6c:90c1:bc22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hold on a second. If you're wearing your shirt inside-out, doesn't that mean the rest of the universe is wearing your shirt inside-in? < 1435973126 73328 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1435973185 445638 :ER28-0652!~elliot@177.19.121.187 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, deadmeat still hasn't made deadfish any more useful than a calculator < 1435973191 788660 :ER28-0652!~elliot@177.19.121.187 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh better implement a different language < 1435973822 724511 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idk deaf dish < 1435974341 325436 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1435974769 410149 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey deadfish isn't just a calculator < 1435974937 890155 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435975941 412162 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Onii-chan you're the best especially when you touch my breast < 1435976123 545302 :irctc855!49be6d08@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.190.109.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435976163 112035 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1435976331 599326 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435976333 681868 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :science/Semi-automatic text generation. < 1435976888 628881 :irctc855!49be6d08@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.190.109.8 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435977370 792471 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1435977961 666411 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1435978050 375262 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435978051 517248 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdbformat/qdbformat is: message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two < 1435978094 877836 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435978097 55906 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Å/Å _is_ a village in Norway, unless you're the BBC and don't understand things on top of letters. < 1435978103 748646 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1435978104 940212 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lion/Lions are the catamorphisms of the animal world. < 1435978230 363234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/./' wisdom/qdbformat < 1435978232 276322 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435978250 790587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? qdbformat < 1435978251 583367 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdbformat is: message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two. < 1435978275 258349 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "$ENTRY is: " really useful at the beginning of $ENTRY? < 1435978286 523910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1435978291 138050 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm starting to think it's `learn that encourages unuseful behavior. < 1435978316 705944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :blasphemy! < 1435978365 212208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that entry has symbolic links, or used to. < 1435978395 296211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep qdb wisdom/* < 1435978398 479233 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Binary file wisdom/irrelevant info matches \ grep: wisdom/le: Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°_o): Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°​_o): Is a directory \ wisdom/qdb:qdb is used like: `quote; `quote regexp; `quote id; `addquote ...; `delquote id; `pastequotes regexp; `pastenquotes [n]; see also qdbformat \ wisdom/qdbfmt:qdbformat is: message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two < 1435978457 689429 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1435978457 790761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? qdbformat < 1435978458 605325 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdbformat is: message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two. < 1435978463 446354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? qdbfmt < 1435978464 342276 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdbformat is: message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two < 1435978467 807821 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1435978474 59320 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1435978476 182984 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is great < 1435978492 227714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :` hg log wisdom/qdbfmt | grep summary: < 1435978494 379976 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: revert \ summary: revert \ summary: for x in wisdom/*; do rev "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ summary: for x in wisdom/*; do tac "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ summary: ln -s qdbformat wisdom/qdbfmt < 1435978504 904428 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :` hg log wisdom/quoteformat | grep summary: < 1435978506 994425 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: revert \ summary: for x in wisdom/*; do tac "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ summary: ln -s qdbformat wisdom/quoteformat < 1435978587 996132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/{qdbfmt,quoteformat}; ln -s qdbformat wisdom/qdbfmt; ln -s qdbformat wisdom/quoteformat < 1435978590 184359 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435978605 113780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? qdbfmt < 1435978606 181294 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdbformat is: message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two. < 1435978627 54052 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure that those files should exist. < 1435978636 825094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though apparently I thought they should at one point. < 1435978662 799761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? qdbrules < 1435978663 536438 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdbformat is: message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two < 1435978676 600844 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :` hg log wisdom/qdbrules | grep summary: < 1435978677 666771 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: revert \ summary: revert \ summary: for x in wisdom/*; do rev "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ summary: for x in wisdom/*; do tac "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ summary: ln -s qdbformat wisdom/qdbrules < 1435978686 294630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Starting to think I was being unhelpful back then. < 1435978715 353505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you didn't know symbolic links were f****** broken < 1435978783 153800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/{qdbrules,qdbfmt}; mv wisdom/{qdbformat,quoteformat} < 1435978785 71231 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435978807 577454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -l qdbformat wisdom < 1435978809 399359 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/qdb \ wisdom/quoteformat < 1435978816 169695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? qdb < 1435978816 992338 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdb is used like: `quote; `quote regexp; `quote id; `addquote ...; `delquote id; `pastequotes regexp; `pastenquotes [n]; see also qdbformat < 1435978833 12409 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :` for f in wisdom/*; do [ -f "${f}a" ] && echo "$f"; done < 1435978833 873583 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435978851 248299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/qdbformat/quoteformat/' wisdom/qdb* < 1435978853 399750 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435978859 46794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quoteformat < 1435978859 916072 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdbformat is: message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two. < 1435978873 277374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1435978882 515813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/qdbformat/quoteformat/' wisdom/quote* < 1435978884 547174 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1435978887 477690 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quoteformat < 1435978888 545338 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quoteformat is: message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two. < 1435978911 38804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? qdb < 1435978911 760888 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdb is used like: `quote; `quote regexp; `quote id; `addquote ...; `delquote id; `pastequotes regexp; `pastenquotes [n]; see also quoteformat < 1435978943 991192 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to change the quote thing to give quotes ids that persist even when other quotes are deleted. < 1435978956 607623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then elliott said he would do it, so I stopped. < 1435978960 266106 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then he never did it. < 1435979020 14968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also blasphemy hth < 1435979032 840426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maybe) < 1435979541 667848 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1435981243 418355 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435981603 873607 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1435982026 944260 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ymyqyknuolcgjudl JOIN :#esoteric < 1435982970 958527 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Those documents are super confusing. The specs are full of statements like “If a sibling block box (that does not float and is not absolutely positioned) follows the run-in box, the run-in box becomes the first inline box of the block box. A run-in cannot run in to a block that already starts with a run-in or that itself is a run-in.” Whenever I read things like that, I wonder how anyone correctly conforms to the spec.' < 1435982977 7154 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are web specs still like this? < 1435982983 881951 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That quote is from 2008 < 1435983013 120134 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1435983783 826097 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :WWW is really a mess < 1435983973 843738 :apdapreturns!~Davi@179.179.161.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435983997 373723 :apdapreturns!~Davi@179.179.161.161 NICK :Guest92545 < 1435984173 839388 :ER28-0652!~elliot@177.19.121.187 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1435984800 577580 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1435984966 30561 :apdap!~Davi@179.179.161.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435985134 815417 :Guest92545!~Davi@179.179.161.161 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1435986801 58854 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435987530 723745 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1435989100 636101 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1435989140 278660 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh I fucked a mass file transfer up so badly < 1435989192 599926 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have a bunch of files that are either empty, corrupted or filled up but I have to sort them now for any salvagable bits < 1435989201 874255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the files are now on a baggage train in ulan bator. < 1435989214 124163 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1435989228 888148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how you _really_ fuck up a file transfer hth < 1435989237 298837 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha < 1435989248 576989 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sarcasm tones inserted < 1435989360 966229 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mm I've been doing this for the past hour < 1435989821 538128 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should attempt to make sense of my own code at some point < 1435989831 323449 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Split it into data retrieval and data display maybe < 1435989845 51241 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe open-source it instead of this crazy idea that I can monetize a website < 1435990590 790775 :password2!~password@197.77.70.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435990661 479109 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good morning < 1435991901 230756 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walpurgisnacht: I reccommend using physical media and a car for mass file transfer < 1435991940 940456 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: good mroing < 1435992073 371894 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A car < 1435992130 191475 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walpurgisnacht, fill the car full of hard drives < 1435992134 119651 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drive the hard drives to the place < 1435992143 762986 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can work out the rest < 1435992151 4462 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, ok < 1435992161 645158 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A floppy disk that is infinite < 1435992165 694329 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please make < 1435992180 991565 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe that's an scp < 1435992312 36680 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well my last method was: 1 install hard disk in computer A, put files on one partition. take hard disk out of A and put it into computer B. install the OS into the other partition of the hard disk < 1435992715 908693 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mm < 1435992738 649270 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH yes I remember oren is the name of the zora queen link between worlds < 1435992851 911655 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to play Link Between Worlds < 1435992923 208421 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not precisely a clone of Link to the Past but its overworld map is almost identical < 1435992931 919334 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1435992944 9775 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to play all the LoZ games < 1435992950 184487 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seemed to be a lot easier though < 1435992961 509345 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I have a copy of Link between Worlds < 1435992963 243120 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1435992975 448188 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ive playes most of them < 1435992984 97883 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except the dynasty warriors spin off < 1435993027 760941 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nintendo needs to step up their game tbh the fourswords re release was ripped up programming from link between worlds < 1435993114 549495 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have beaten all the 2D LoZ games, plus Twilight Princess and Ocarina < 1435993147 2513 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, except Zelda 2. couldn't get into it < 1435993196 879827 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The original zelda is amazing < 1435993275 565774 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've only beaten Link's Awakening < 1435993275 885457 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1435993281 137366 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not 100% < 1435993306 114052 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played it on virtual console on my 3DS, and it holds up quite well even comparing it with the GBA releases < 1435993341 662769 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lack of a map is... problematic < 1435993353 351809 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1435993451 126903 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren, yeah, I ended up making a map for myself < 1435993467 262523 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a romhack that adds a map to the game < 1435993491 667451 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shows only places you've already been < 1435993942 526170 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1435994674 399566 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1435996764 404600 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:2d95:1c6c:90c1:bc22 PART :#esoteric < 1435997578 655909 :password2!~password@197.77.70.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1435999410 127692 :password2!~password@197.77.70.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436005297 208248 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnordy morning < 1436005304 82781 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fnord hot outside < 1436005309 231523 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fnord hot inside < 1436005415 435730 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436005545 1732 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1436005557 673045 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: How are you coping with the heat? < 1436005557 878977 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: arcus the first rule is never get involved in slow down a lot. :d just received it!), but < 1436005646 221471 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59795 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436024459 159733 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weetoflake/Weetoflakes are something Taneb invented; they taste sort of purple. < 1436024914 138758 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1436024915 126874 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Go, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, and this sentence. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1436024986 316714 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1436025374 119150 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom ee < 1436025375 122697 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weetoflake/Weetoflakes are something Taneb invented; they taste sort of purple. < 1436025378 940499 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1436025385 125211 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom oo < 1436025386 134568 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fternoon/Fternoon is the time of day when the Danes usually eat their fternooners. < 1436025427 266516 :Jyoukage!~IceChat9@cpe-75-82-117-63.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436025490 606573 :Jyoukage!~IceChat9@cpe-75-82-117-63.socal.res.rr.com PART :#esoteric < 1436025630 722051 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:109c:d2d5:c9ec:7901 PART :#esoteric < 1436025821 218077 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1436030538 805353 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1436030903 222295 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1436031103 285939 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436031428 842547 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07K-on Fuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43410&oldid=41523 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+144) 10 < 1436031498 219123 :password2!~password@197.77.31.180 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436031717 336700 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07K-on Fuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43411&oldid=43410 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+237) 10Might as well add this too < 1436032548 130875 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1436032673 622419 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436032673 714035 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PRIVMSG #esoteric :asdfghjkl;' < 1436034453 943439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436034454 855453 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir/lifthrasiir is shunned by the rest of his country for being no good at League of Legends. < 1436034461 50536 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is youtube's layout suddently idfferent? < 1436034479 659539 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that wisdom sounds sufficiently old < 1436034511 297041 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/lifthrasiir < 1436034512 860128 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike FreeFull oerjan FreeFull shachaf shachaf nitia < 1436034533 266043 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good old nitia < 1436034612 825490 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436034642 837268 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I see, something reset my layout to before I deleted the sections I didin't want < 1436034660 746423 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436034661 686707 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbc/The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation. Its inventions include, without limitation, Muppets and tiny elfs. < 1436034679 255866 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Esomarklets10]]": Author request: page has no other contributions and is only a few hours old < 1436034694 617319 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436034695 715843 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chess/Chess is a complex boardgame, where players exchange unclear royal steaks until they decide which of them has lost. The game is recorded through the Gringmuth Moving Pineapple Notation. < 1436034868 5375 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian QUIT :Quit: Konversation terminated! < 1436034976 359156 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1436035108 892830 :jjfm!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1436035115 193090 :jjfm!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer NICK :h0rsep0wer < 1436035337 327464 :ofjjf!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436035780 514262 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436035780 699610 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1436035780 753564 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436035965 264781 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1436037158 605647 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1436037729 228449 :apdapreturns!~Davi@179.179.161.161 NICK :WareReturns < 1436037799 576121 :WareReturns!~Davi@179.179.161.161 NICK 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timeout: 252 seconds < 1436050564 288569 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io JOIN :#esoteric < 1436050874 959592 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436050889 103554 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436050917 783292 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1436050977 351827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1436051315 595341 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Generic 2D Brainfuck14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43412&oldid=43404 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+0) 10broken category < 1436051345 46083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436051346 40174 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :goat/Goats are drunk 24/7, ask Solain for details. < 1436051568 452826 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436051569 276200 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pietbot/Pietbot is the only thing that can defeat fungot. < 1436051823 550545 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? thutubot < 1436051824 351114 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thutubot? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1436051844 401003 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436051845 224621 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spam/Spam is a delicious meat product. See http://www.spamjamhawaii.com/ < 1436051852 460683 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sdfkl;' < 1436051865 907206 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHH I can't get youtube back the way it was < 1436052269 470203 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436052278 861564 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta stop this < 1436052285 352484 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi/myndzi keeps us all on our feet < 1436052309 744038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/./' wisdom/myndzi < 1436052311 981559 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436052339 221754 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? myndzi < 1436052340 114099 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi keeps us all on our feet. < 1436052954 973543 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1436054162 876672 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436054185 865023 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bhelloily < 1436054203 806355 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonsøœerjan! < 1436054259 497193 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer NICK :united_states_of < 1436054279 297679 :united_states_of!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer NICK :unit_stat_of_sta < 1436054305 894876 :unit_stat_of_sta!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer NICK :u_stat_of_stalke < 1436054332 158016 :u_stat_of_stalke!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer NICK :stalker_states < 1436054528 484926 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait there's a length limit? < 1436054539 884380 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca NICK :qwertyuiopasdfgh < 1436054559 124466 :qwertyuiopasdfgh!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :16 characters < 1436054559 178522 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellor... uhm... < 1436054571 168656 :qwertyuiopasdfgh!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca NICK :oren < 1436054571 847054 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qwertyuielloasdfgh? < 1436054586 854189 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloren! (while you're orenning.) < 1436054609 199 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :konboilyha < 1436054642 815226 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :こんばんヲレン! < 1436054799 190247 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436054818 443564 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :today, my bro pushed me deeper into drug hell... < 1436054860 567349 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mustn't visit FLGS with him. it's hard on the wallet. < 1436054883 742235 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1436054932 359773 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :got a new Race for the Galaxy extension, and Survive. < 1436054945 863905 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io JOIN :#esoteric < 1436054970 754339 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca NICK :woren < 1436054998 461165 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:109c:d2d5:c9ec:7901 PART :#esoteric < 1436054999 947290 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ピッこんばんエッチキュー < 1436055095 678096 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nkqhtbityswbjhtl QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1436055113 1448 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436055217 145379 :woren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca NICK :oren < 1436055220 354332 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca NICK :woren < 1436055233 349465 :woren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca NICK :o-ren < 1436055301 59892 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436055304 481715 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :equal temperament/Equal temperament is just intonation that's evenly spaced. < 1436055358 585829 :o-ren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436055361 528588 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quadrilateral/Don't you mean "tetrapleur"? < 1436055539 248013 :o-ren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, 四線 doesn't seem to be a word < 1436055586 606485 :o-ren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :四角 is "quadrangle" which doesn't quite mean the same thing < 1436055675 912734 :o-ren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436055677 184367 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy/mnoqy used to be monqy before the earthquake. < 1436055704 449338 :o-ren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the earthquake which ran a sort over his letters? < 1436055725 569331 :o-ren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca NICK :enor < 1436056393 869289 :enor!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how chmu afiimnnoort do ouy elos by ginorst eht eelrstt I ?denorw < 1436056530 953841 :enor!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I egssu eht eglnor eht aaeegrv dorw ,is eht emor beiiiilopssst aer .lost Btu emos deorrs aer beiilmopss fmor eht arstt os abemy ouy illst 'dnot elos a .lot < 1436056566 524741 :enor!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome < 1436056567 668486 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1436056581 73937 :enor!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ceelmow < 1436056581 842744 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ceelmow: not found < 1436056746 732681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :enor: 'denost kloo oot .adhr < 1436056754 958618 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is beiiilopssst? < 1436056765 249866 :enor!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibilities < 1436056771 397930 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1436056827 877666 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not sure bout ginorst, but other that that, i am okay with it < 1436056842 217 :enor!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorting < 1436056855 931003 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1436056859 208775 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah well < 1436056886 147476 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is that text about "the ordering of letters doesn't matter" < 1436056891 520569 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is bullshit < 1436056902 200496 :stalker_states!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer NICK :_ < 1436056911 393060 :_!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer NICK :________________ < 1436056914 185953 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorting is actually way harder to read that letting the first and last letter in a wort in place < 1436056923 668073 :________________!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer NICK :|______________| < 1436057078 45002 :enor!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat >letersort <<<'int compare(char *s,char *c){return*s-*c;}int main(){char w[40];int c,i=0;while( < 1436057081 50086 :enor!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :1){c=getchar();if(c<=32||c==EOF){qsort(w,i,1,compare);w[i]=0;printf("%s",w);if(c < 1436057084 52754 :enor!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :==EOF)break;putchar(c);i=0;}else{w[i++]=c;}} < 1436057091 793527 :enor!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :' < 1436057142 318765 :enor!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat >letersort <<<'int compare(char *s,char *c){return*s-*c;}int main(){char w[40];int c,i=0;while(' < 1436057144 405199 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436057168 77046 :enor!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat >>letersort <<<'1){c=getchar();if(c<=32||c==EOF){qsort(w,i,1,compare);w[i]=0;printf("%s",w);if(c' < 1436057169 845378 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436057188 800776 :enor!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat >>letersort <<<'==EOF)break;putchar(c);i=0;}else{w[i++]=c;}}}' < 1436057190 593039 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436057232 316977 :enor!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc letersort < 1436057234 719383 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/ld:letersort: file format not recognized; treating as linker script \ /usr/bin/ld:letersort:1: syntax error \ collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status < 1436057244 805747 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436057246 630968 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lie/Lies are even easier than monoids. They form groups, known as Lie groups. < 1436057280 511684 :enor!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc -x c letersort < 1436057284 967508 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :letersort: In function ‘main’: \ letersort:2:29: error: ‘EOF’ undeclared (first use in this function) \ letersort:2:29: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in \ letersort:2:62: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function ‘printf’ [enabled by default] < 1436057433 350624 :enor!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i '1i#include ' letersort < 1436057435 178934 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436057438 455955 :enor!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` gcc -x c letersort < 1436057441 737927 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436057464 284798 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is there a t missing? < 1436057505 519641 :enor!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I typed it wrong the first time and didn't bother correcting it after < 1436057517 111177 :enor!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat letersort < 1436057517 994769 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include \ int compare(char *s,char *c){return*s-*c;}int main(){char w[40];int c,i=0;while( \ 1){c=getchar();if(c<=32||c==EOF){qsort(w,i,1,compare);w[i]=0;printf("%s",w);if(c \ ==EOF)break;putchar(c);i=0;}else{w[i++]=c;}}} < 1436057536 324226 :enor!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` a.out <<<"lettersort" < 1436057537 257065 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: a.out: command not found < 1436057542 518366 :enor!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./a.out <<<"lettersort" < 1436057544 410140 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eelorrsttt < 1436057561 866554 :|______________|!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1436057590 238260 :enor!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./a.out <<<"myname oerjan boily elliott" < 1436057591 84589 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aemmny aejnor biloy eillott < 1436057676 803898 :enor!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ./a.out < learn Who cares about ancient cases anyway? < 1436061601 718787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who told you this? < 1436062093 501501 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/./' wisdom/internationale < 1436062095 177424 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436062130 15581 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :` grep -Prl '[a-z]$' wisdom | wc -l < 1436062130 915763 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :81 < 1436062188 373986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? internationale < 1436062189 177131 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have been reported to the House Un-American Activities Committee. < 1436062232 879527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :` F="$(grep -Prl '[a-z]$' wisdom | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}//"; cat "$F" < 1436062233 848160 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :friendship//friendship wisdom < 1436062238 599721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :` F="$(grep -Prl '[a-z]$' wisdom | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}//"; cat "$F" < 1436062239 479270 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@//@ is an OS made out of only the finest vapour < 1436062264 450012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/./' wisdom/'@' < 1436062266 25124 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436062273 271472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? @ < 1436062273 926199 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ is an OS made out of only the finest vapour. < 1436062300 467939 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :` F="$(grep -Prl '[a-z]$' wisdom | shuf -n1)"; echo -n "${F#wisdom/}//"; cat "$F" < 1436062301 433212 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maths//maths stands for Mathematical Anti-Telharsic Harfatum Septomin < 1436062345 99631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`l/rn maths/Maths stands for Mathematical Anti-Telharsic Harfatum Septomin. < 1436062345 661452 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/l/rn: No such file or directory < 1436062350 55991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn maths/Maths stands for Mathematical Anti-Telharsic Harfatum Septomin. < 1436062353 549824 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «maths» < 1436062362 633771 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, maybe this is a little too reminiscent of the wikipedia thing of the good old days < 1436062372 76657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1436062380 989912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :finding things for you to edit < 1436062433 726135 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :` for F in $(grep -Prl '[a-z]$' wisdom); do echo -n "${F#wisdom/}//"; cat "$F"; done < 1436062434 894387 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scotland// it's that place where they all wear kilts and chase haggises around whilst warding off the loch ness monster with bagpipes \ tar//The command you're looking for is probably either tar -xavkf or tar -cavf \ ant//ants are animals too hth \ guestbot//guestbot is nobody \ burma//ask Bike \ bird//bird bird bird bird \ otp//onl < 1436062486 256985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure any of those need correction. < 1436062511 292472 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gaspatsjo < 1436062512 154397 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaspatsjo is a norwegian soup, which died out due to a lack of hot summer days < 1436062514 808748 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :` for F in $(grep -Prl '[a-z]$' wisdom | shuf); do echo -n "${F#wisdom/}//"; cat "$F"; done < 1436062515 976996 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar//The command you're looking for is probably either tar -xavkf or tar -cavf \ algol//ALGOL stands for A Programming Language \ java//java is a programming-language shaped collection of misfeatures \ itym//itym "i think you mean" hth \ ascii//ascii is the plural of ascius \ ngram//cat: wisdom/ngram: No such file or directory \ model//cat: model: < 1436062566 613850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's enough for now, but as a compromise i'll do some more once you start editing wikipedia hth < 1436062597 797716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the compromise in that < 1436062626 48853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the part where you get to see through my evil plan hth < 1436063252 241215 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i was going to edit wikipedia and now it's down tdnh < 1436063279 852972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously, that was also part of my evil plan. < 1436063334 661324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we have the rest of this evil plan in advance twh < 1436063369 328320 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure there's a point on the evil overlord list discouraging that. < 1436063407 960745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does your evil plan also involve the flies in this room? < 1436063426 712291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have an anti-bug screen on the window that's supposed to prevent flies coming in < 1436063434 564050 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but right now it's preventing flies going out < 1436063440 397642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :please advise < 1436063471 663342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my strategy since i moved here has been to never open the windows hth < 1436063517 198183 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1436063518 634564 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 050220Z 13006KT 9999 FEW004 08/07 Q1021 RMK WIND 670FT 10007KT < 1436063519 65226 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's a ventilation system) < 1436063521 244990 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1436063521 553653 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 050153Z 30016KT 10SM SCT008 SCT180 18/14 A2985 RMK AO2 SLP106 T01830139 < 1436063535 277823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what do i do about these flies twh < 1436063576 135337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to trap them between a glass and a sheet of paper < 1436063577 761054 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :get fireproof walls, then use axe and a lighter < 1436063594 821986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :may not work well on the faster kind. < 1436063628 830652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(step 1: trap with glass. step 2: slide sheet between) < 1436063640 332841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very humane when it works. < 1436063667 778879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :would prefer a flye option < 1436063765 685085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: http://www.the-whiteboard.com/autotwb1196.html < 1436064623 849284 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what's with durkon's teeth, anyway? < 1436064628 838846 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are they skin-colored? < 1436064653 864322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait wat < 1436064683 5697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't they? < 1436064688 321959 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also where's my olist < 1436064726 463950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i see no new comic < 1436064738 443811 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1436064746 271811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1436064806 787452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure if they're the same color. < 1436064833 552169 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to back in the archive and check if they're the same color his fangs used to be. < 1436064837 877515 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I realized that might not work. < 1436064851 958369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1436064860 148488 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is he didn't use to have fangs < 1436064872 88694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i didn't realize that < 1436065137 891226 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436068828 231926 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436068829 340485 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esosc/esosc is esoteric song contest (also Esoteric Standard Committee) < 1436069294 298837 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436069295 312977 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :md5/MD5 is a hash algorithm mainly used by underdeveloped aliens. < 1436069307 829462 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sha5 < 1436069308 731969 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sha5? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1436069426 50545 :ethiraric!~ethiraric@93.ip-5-196-226.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436069444 874926 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wfbgevgsbejynhys JOIN :#esoteric < 1436073141 579757 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436074911 631382 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@66.165.11.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436075165 632328 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436075204 163930 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh lord its laggy < 1436075659 795951 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So this golf site is fun < 1436077449 153874 :impomatic_!~digital_w@22.125.115.87.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436077822 465432 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436079281 929390 :phase_!45048862@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.4.136.98 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436079306 541165 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Number-rock14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43413&oldid=43304 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+321) 10 < 1436079339 658977 :password4!~password1@197.77.31.180 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436079533 968341 :phase_!45048862@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.4.136.98 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436081135 54861 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: thundering < 1436082978 409201 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: !iH < 1436083031 606267 :password4!~password1@197.77.31.180 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436083749 545436 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436084383 59110 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436086144 877601 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Generic 2D Brainfuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43414&oldid=43412 5* 0395.175.104.25 5* (+3) 10 < 1436086294 690858 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wfbgevgsbejynhys QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1436086472 441375 :password2!~password@197.77.11.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436086973 222231 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Excess Flood < 1436086995 4366 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436087012 359005 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Excess Flood < 1436087034 994701 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436087050 182998 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mm < 1436087728 984544 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Excess Flood < 1436087750 104985 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436087789 926293 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436090897 753079 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1436091085 113870 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1436091500 264623 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that generic 2d bf is rather boring < 1436091885 339355 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436092173 259206 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436093725 270661 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-1-244.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1436093727 20396 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-1-244.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey hey < 1436093729 612616 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-1-244.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Been a while < 1436093757 581410 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey hey it's the Slereah < 1436093762 276042 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :People say they Slereah around < 1436093832 213322 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-1-244.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm the Slereahest of Slereahs < 1436094901 99928 :impomatic_!~digital_w@22.125.115.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: http://corewar.co.uk < 1436095665 216282 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436096256 533153 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applications of deep learning: high-resolution pictures of Miku https://github.com/nagadomi/waifu2x < 1436096409 577812 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1436098785 40215 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1436099292 873131 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: FERROUS CHICKEN < 1436099614 945806 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436100059 803855 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1436100689 91800 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436101990 28018 :password2!~password@197.77.11.194 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436102117 759013 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436102169 845352 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436102204 989126 :password2!~password@197.77.70.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436102279 519159 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1436102415 85365 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1436102626 196660 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1436102643 969929 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1436102827 41869 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-128-55.42-151.net24.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1436103578 3868 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1436103875 11180 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-189-148.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436103879 975924 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-092-072-154-145.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1436104010 37626 :password2!~password@197.77.70.252 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436105727 961232 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1436105870 988776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436105958 869041 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1436105959 75628 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1436106236 890082 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-092-072-154-145.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de NICK :Melvar < 1436108762 822326 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436108762 965745 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1436108763 19472 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436109409 872528 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@66.165.11.125 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436110133 416534 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1436110516 872501 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436111442 718649 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436111843 272447 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1436112096 113790 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-128-55.42-151.net24.it QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436112896 757063 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436113039 715283 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-154-145.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436113550 702315 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1436113840 763787 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-154-145.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1436114328 755419 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@66.165.11.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436114951 771099 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436115079 610829 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436116338 447914 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1436116716 122493 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of a name is Skręta? < 1436116770 449577 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how come his daughter is just Skreta without an ogonek < 1436116830 163431 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436116941 146882 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1436116977 234547 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1436117135 974097 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436117139 573269 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1436117148 796316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hppavilion1 < 1436117150 980319 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Éogon, son of Écaron and lord of the house of Eopf. < 1436117308 762057 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :今晩は、へっパビリオン < 1436117357 844693 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started making a language designed specifically for programming Text-Based Games < 1436117364 422233 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool! < 1436117377 900359 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Apparently in Rohan, it is the other way round; diacritics appear in descendants' names.) < 1436117405 30375 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: i have a question about bfml < 1436117407 462244 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's based on PRINTASKSWITCHINPUTCASEXGOTOACASEYGOTOBELSEGOTOC < 1436117409 31996 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go on < 1436117439 934250 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can answer < 1436117455 69756 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: is it considered possible to have more than one attribute for one char? < 1436117460 645575 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1436117463 840429 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, can it be bold, underlined and blue < 1436117470 52893 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course < 1436117481 938664 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why each value is assigned to a different bit range < 1436117492 105671 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes it more difficult to program < 1436117499 691309 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it makes more sense that way < 1436117505 405354 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm i appears that the only languages it could possibly be are polish and lithuanian < 1436117540 603351 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1436117545 868521 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also makes it kind of difficult to set up :P < 1436117554 371185 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had it remembered as values rather than as bits < 1436117556 288441 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1436117561 460476 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1436117615 849433 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What makes it annoying is that to embolden, you need to do, like, 34,359,738,368 plus signs < 1436117627 363765 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to fix that in the specification actually < 1436117653 48992 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1436117656 311550 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :With ansi escapes, you could theoretically have bg color, fg color, bold, italic, blinking, underlined, struck through text < 1436117672 584813 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you just have to 34, 34, 34? < 1436117765 910491 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1436117770 42737 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*? < 1436117799 429975 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fixing the spec so that if you follow an instruction with an integer, the instruction is executed _n_ times < 1436117821 484237 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you need that? < 1436117826 24051 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck Markup Language14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43415&oldid=43395 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+303) 10Shortcuts < 1436117831 979150 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1436117835 91940 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To make text bold < 1436117841 316227 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't every cell responsible for exaxtly one character? < 1436117842 40774 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need 34,359,738,368 +s < 1436117844 640727 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1436117862 955124 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, if every cell is the value for bold, the whole text is bold < 1436117865 558117 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2**36-2**35) < 1436117868 608845 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1436117872 185147 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Precisely < 1436117881 911740 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1436117890 286552 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, now i see < 1436117902 605768 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1436117934 475261 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now +34359738368 is a shortcut to embolden text < 1436117955 528880 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the suffix? < 1436117960 320439 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1436117972 392804 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'+34359738368' < 1436117972 954126 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not prefix? < 1436117990 607940 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because arbitrary decisions < 1436117999 760754 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1436118003 572664 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether we use prefix or suffix doesn't matter < 1436118012 463919 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I figure suffix makes more sense to me < 1436118049 961559 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a vim user i have to disagree :p < 1436118060 606981 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck Markup Language14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43416&oldid=43415 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+11) 10Wrapping 36-bit brainfuck < 1436118076 747279 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a Notepad++ user I don't care :P < 1436118091 794494 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ther < 1436118092 440176 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1436118105 578287 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I specified that BFML is wrapping because more arbitration < 1436118126 750392 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrapping makes bolding actually useable < 1436118131 726325 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1436118135 983286 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But so does prefixing < 1436118142 152261 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*suffixinig < 1436118145 301418 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*suffixing < 1436118148 427341 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah! < 1436118154 683857 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:( < 1436118225 846023 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love how I made a TC markup language < 1436118438 288577 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :suffixing is better onl if you speak a SVO language where imperatives are 'VO'. < 1436118463 769882 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1436118470 693654 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what'd be cool? < 1436118508 672942 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speech2Text+Natural Language Recognition+Command/Control-style game < 1436119239 39968 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of games are those? < 1436119610 395116 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he may be thinking of Command and Conquer < 1436119654 129490 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tower to d4" "roger that" < 1436119982 567206 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, command and COntrol is just a tower defense game. < 1436120059 56832 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a speech to text adventure game. < 1436120130 71276 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THen you can pretend you're guiding someone through an adventure via radio. < 1436120162 450063 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe I should make a text adventure game styled to look like you're guiding someone via phone texts. < 1436120190 805505 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adventure games suitable for google glasses < 1436120208 99117 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay google, move the infantery two blocks to the right < 1436120250 23721 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436120317 596522 :apdapreturns!~Davi@179.179.161.161 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436120517 50785 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :extra technical challenge: do it on famicom using the microphone < 1436121090 26813 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By command/control I meant a game where you control a group of people indirectly < 1436121109 855817 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bonus: A game where you are controling a small platoon of starships by voice < 1436121127 621535 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :While also controlling the lead ship by WASD etc. < 1436121889 838461 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436122268 926187 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a standard extension for non-C code which must be passed through the C preprocessor? < 1436122296 89758 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: there's .S for assembler+cpp < 1436122301 645460 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about other cases < 1436122318 923095 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the case i'm looking for < 1436122322 96887 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1436122329 783907 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *like* ".cpp", but that's one of the several extensions C++ has taken. < 1436122335 328649 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that the S being capital matters < 1436122349 282832 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(on a case-sensitive filesystem, at least) < 1436122364 115557 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Along with cxx, c++, cc, .C... < 1436122381 894926 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could do pl.#def < 1436122391 142919 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for preprocessed perl < 1436122406 437977 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Refract14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43417 5* 03Phase 5* (+6645) 10Create Refract page with info from the wiki < 1436122406 648291 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1436122446 896426 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case, I was looking for preprocessed assembler, although I might use preprecessed hexadecimal dump for another thing < 1436122484 817183 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Refract14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43418&oldid=43417 5* 03Phase 5* (+118) 10/* Multiple Stacks */ Change Markdown to MediaWiki syntax < 1436122633 600853 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm yeah for the parts I'm writing in preprocessed hex, I'll use .hex# < 1436122647 163603 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Refract14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43419&oldid=43418 5* 03Phase 5* (-130) 10Some examples < 1436122809 37571 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The confusion with c++ headers is even worse: .h .hpp .hxx .hh .H .h++ < 1436122824 288766 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Refract14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43420&oldid=43419 5* 03Phase 5* (+98) 10Another examples < 1436122845 172600 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :using plain .h and .cpp for C++ code is what my workplace does < 1436123039 138135 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Refract14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43421&oldid=43420 5* 03Phase 5* (+3424) 10Add operator table < 1436123129 574797 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Refract14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43422&oldid=43421 5* 03Phase 5* (+1) 10/* External Resources */ Fix link typo < 1436123180 573630 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Refract14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43423&oldid=43422 5* 03Phase 5* (+47) 10Link to me < 1436123226 418512 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Phase14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43424&oldid=43397 5* 03Phase 5* (+14) 10Link to Refract & Typo fix < 1436123639 302102 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436123703 910508 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1436123758 568657 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43425&oldid=43370 5* 03Phase 5* (+14) 10/* R */ Add Refract language < 1436124199 464985 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Refract14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43426&oldid=43423 5* 03Phase 5* (+281) 10Cool table < 1436124304 571291 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436124439 154097 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://textsfromevillious.tumblr.com/post/94661173137/618-you-were-so-drunk-last-night-1-618-no (Muzzle of Nemesis/Seven Deadly Sins/Evillious Chronicles spoilers) < 1436124483 277948 :x1365C!x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436124496 368078 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D love the pics < 1436124674 649716 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1436124891 19511 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: ♥ that tumblr < 1436124909 379085 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think some of them are pulled from textsfromlastnight but not all of them < 1436124972 808759 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, are Hansel and Gretal good, bad, mix? < 1436124986 444877 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THey've been called the "cursed twins" at least once < 1436125134 624622 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't read any of the ...mangas? Just watched the songs < 1436125144 491473 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure there are songs I've missed though < 1436125151 706456 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only saw Drug of Gold a few days ago < 1436125789 328576 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure myself either < 1436126015 979087 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, interesting, another perspective to conchita? hadn't seen that one myself < 1436126131 678806 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I honestly don't really like her story that much myself. Until she starts eating people, how is eating a lot incl. disgusting things worthy of the name "Evil Food Eater"? < 1436126151 920712 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1436126182 599084 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless it's 'eater of evil food'? I don't know < 1436126242 592422 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drug of Gold is musically catchy though < 1436126487 679292 :x1365C!x10A94@178.252.73.97 NICK :x10A94 < 1436127533 461718 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436127815 344845 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436128009 511593 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone remind me how i authenticate pirate windows < 1436128254 551770 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1436129707 740107 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian JOIN :#esoteric < 1436129743 88468 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1436130295 158976 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436131170 300119 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436131392 102179 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436131930 930347 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436132102 84748 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436132108 138659 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1436132193 102738 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436132193 995421 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436132204 971562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436132438 198327 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436132496 28653 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436133008 212097 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436133925 240050 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1436134026 6206 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function < 1436134085 555966 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1436134773 504692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : [wiki] 14[[07Refract14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43417 5* 03Phase 5* (+6645) 10Create Refract page with info from the wiki <-- i was worried there for a moment < 1436134789 892934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but apparently it's eir own wiki < 1436134837 805938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU CALL WIKIPEDIA "WIKI" ALL THE TIME < 1436134861 726950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't quite sure oren was the culprit, but whatever < 1436134892 857435 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wiki < 1436134906 430521 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wiki is at http://esolangs.org/wiki < 1436134922 734894 :perrier_!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436134959 665362 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wikipedia < 1436134960 341642 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1436135169 662315 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Wikipedia is a bit like TVTropes but in more languages < 1436135172 797441 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'wikipedia': Wikipedia is a bit like TVTropes but in more languages < 1436135193 931255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/./' wisdom/wikipedia < 1436135195 616928 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436135206 208554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cough* < 1436135225 276741 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436135254 207429 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1436135264 804098 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I very rarely write in that style so I get confused < 1436135317 104407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn tvtropes/We'll write about TVTropes here, we'll just have to finish these tabs first. < 1436135318 950087 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «tvtropes» < 1436135325 732404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1436135337 517092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv wisdom/tvtrope{s,} < 1436135339 298039 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436135384 799522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn tvtrope/We'll write about TVTropes here, we just have to finish these tabs first. < 1436135386 644905 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «tvtrope» < 1436135390 747412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tvtropes < 1436135391 696451 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We'll write about TVTropes here, we just have to finish these tabs first. < 1436135543 471401 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait hm < 1436135558 460335 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/tvtrope < 1436135559 856890 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan < 1436135562 157032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/tvtropes < 1436135563 373293 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan < 1436135566 470288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1436135575 715152 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wikipedias < 1436135576 365809 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia is a bit like TVTropes but in more languages. < 1436135580 295904 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1436135586 889079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebs < 1436135587 500196 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, and cube root of five genders. (See also: tanebventions) < 1436135656 992774 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436135723 857133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bhiloy < 1436135873 100135 :Vent!~Thisbe@66.165.11.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436136058 193785 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@66.165.11.125 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436136122 333928 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonarjoeur! < 1436136169 787333 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436136222 243011 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonsoilyr < 1436136267 865546 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonasoir! < 1436136351 288513 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :boilynacera < 1436136396 144851 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer NICK :Inri_Cristo < 1436136408 518299 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunaseataneb! < 1436136419 465227 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are you doing, boily < 1436136425 281329 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also oerjan and b_jonas because why not < 1436136447 115529 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436136453 819822 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my feet hurt, but I spent plenty of time outside playing mahjong with my bro and other people :D < 1436136507 660007 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1436136524 494241 :Inri_Cristo!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer NICK :h0rsep0wer < 1436136569 448072 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you today do? < 1436136582 72029 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very little < 1436136749 969480 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer NICK :test934256 < 1436136756 679489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I was asleep most of the day because I'd had 4 hours sleep in the preceding two < 1436136768 720289 :test934256!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer NICK :Inri_Cristo < 1436136770 800612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which in turn was because of Parkinson's Law) < 1436136778 23494 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...? < 1436136789 687969 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parkinson's Law = "work expands to fill the time available" < 1436136796 104581 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. heh ^^ < 1436136846 431432 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually I finished over 12 hours early, then spent many of them doing one more proofread) < 1436136871 696167 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since i have no work, my followed websites expand instead. < 1436136893 330407 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boardgaming filled my weekend. < 1436136905 482644 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and some Towerfall too.) < 1436137116 121921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except when puzzle solving expands instead... < 1436137142 442334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i clearly do structured procrastination, the trouble is none of the levels do anything actually useful. < 1436137288 855060 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played D&D yesterday < 1436137329 65726 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like the 5th ed game I'm in is going to end up with 8 or more players, which could be a problem < 1436137338 255686 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm the only one not going to be living in Leeds < 1436137425 475386 :diplomaticus!~diplomati@c-73-29-126-163.hsd1.nj.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436137595 367644 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a group of 8 players, I'd try to break into two groups of 4 and 3 respectively < 1436137656 246536 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, which is 7 players? < 1436137666 445429 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that 8 wasn't including the DM) < 1436137673 193355 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :need an extra dm or something? < 1436137691 747823 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you need an extra DM for the other group < 1436137700 317264 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because one DM can't run two at once < 1436137826 768289 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the plan is to make it like a bunch of heroes operating in flexible teams < 1436137843 345640 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :So people can drop in and out < 1436137981 696213 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure how well that'll work < 1436138039 931335 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on how self-contained the sessions are < 1436138048 681798 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :give all the characters multiple personality disorders < 1436138052 810422 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :*disorder < 1436138056 79865 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find that in D&D in practice, there's a lot of "I know we're in the middle of a fight but it's 9pm and we really need to go home" < 1436138066 181165 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so players can swap around as needs be < 1436138128 889887 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yeah, that is a problem < 1436138166 714584 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :(especially with me getting the train there and back from a different city) < 1436138206 691885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the local trains from Birmingham University run up to 11pm or so < 1436138210 893123 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the buses up to midnight < 1436138225 745537 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we used to go to the pub after the games (I don't drink alcohol, but I ordered food or fruit juice sometimes) < 1436138234 274168 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then I'd often end up catching the last bus home < 1436138267 430601 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436138506 573764 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I think I can appreciate < 1436138516 798153 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436138524 177126 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :First time we played with this group, I ended up staying over < 1436138534 17860 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436138580 800033 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, the party's mage has moved to Ireland < 1436138584 854928 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :So he's had to drop out < 1436138595 961789 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't know how to teleport yet? < 1436138612 599242 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally worth building a teleportation circle for the improved success rate < 1436138637 252693 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's more of an elements chap than a time and space chap < 1436138740 219480 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1436138744 9688 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to say, I am very much enjoying playing a Paladin < 1436138767 822175 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of paladin? < 1436138781 456803 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :A vengeance paladin < 1436138946 719515 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436139284 17967 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do need to get better at, like, actually roleplaying < 1436139562 949648 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436139859 468573 :Inri_Cristo!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer NICK :h0rsep0wer < 1436140061 373850 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/internet-now-officially-too-big-ip-addresses-run-out-n386081 < 1436140104 536156 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: specifically, ARIN's out of large blocks < 1436140113 431232 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it still has several smaller ones left, that'll last a few months at least < 1436140119 752357 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1436140125 922162 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and ARIN is the company in charge of allocating IPs in north? america) < 1436140319 293644 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm heading to bed now, goodnight < 1436141454 668867 :h0rsep0wer_3!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1436141566 174542 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436142196 711744 :function!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1436142356 115274 :quietello!~bcd@209.86.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436142392 137224 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Excess Flood < 1436142417 119726 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1436142584 947538 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436142628 23248 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436144349 74133 :h0rsep0wer_3!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1436144349 135052 :Vent!~Thisbe@66.165.11.125 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436144390 874676 :Vent!~Thisbe@66.165.11.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436144584 871599 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:ada8:8a03:606c:ed44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436144867 754467 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@66.165.11.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436144943 861286 :Vent!~Thisbe@66.165.11.125 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436146699 356060 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1436147999 850952 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1436148331 173364 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1436148353 188335 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: QUAKER CHICKEN < 1436148392 808255 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1436148412 834166 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist PART :#esoteric < 1436148568 897771 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436148915 354676 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@66.165.11.125 QUIT :Quit: Left < 1436149841 966800 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436150713 238610 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436150934 191033 :diplomaticus!~diplomati@c-73-29-126-163.hsd1.nj.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1436150934 244831 :diplomaticus!~diplomati@unaffiliated/diplomaticus JOIN :#esoteric < 1436151226 280045 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436151351 635282 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lsesdhcbjptftptb JOIN :#esoteric < 1436151406 743500 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436152271 703549 :diplomaticus!~diplomati@unaffiliated/diplomaticus QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436153425 189822 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1436153532 284591 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1436155172 315853 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1436155628 197478 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a youtube video glitches up at the right moment you can get it to go "desudesudesudesudesudesu" < 1436155799 410305 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1436156331 980381 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why youtube videos only glitch up when you unpause them after having them paused for a long time < 1436156356 553674 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1436156519 91085 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:ada8:8a03:606c:ed44 PART :#esoteric < 1436156573 647928 :password2_!~password@197.76.130.81 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436156675 974483 :password2_!~password@197.76.130.81 NICK :password4 < 1436157435 302423 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/what-happened-on-512k-day/ < 1436157973 775992 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slightly interesting randomly generated URL: http://www.rsowmroman.com/balonglang/is-monouttical < 1436157989 300469 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The neural net decided to stick a nick in there. < 1436158156 438681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :balonglang, the monouttical language < 1436158549 559926 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1436158557 926826 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. I asked the neural net to generate the very most likely thing that "00:00:00: " could be followed by. < 1436158561 526360 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not HackEgo, but hackEgo. < 1436158573 960704 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The subsequent lines consisted entirely of repetitions of this: < 1436158586 156298 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:48:48: [wiki] 14[[07Talk:Book14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=41408&oldid=41442 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+1) 10/* See in the state of the states */ < 1436158631 962887 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the net apparently knows exactly the most likely time, the most likely page, the most likely oldid, and the most likely editor. < 1436158730 113126 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is despite the fact that there is, in fact, no page "Talk:Book". < 1436158865 776454 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436158868 365375 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked it for the most likely stuff following "https://". So apparently this exact string is the very most likely URL: < 1436158881 192941 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.computer.com/states/2000/10/10/the-computer-state-states-one-state-states-one-states-of-complete-states-complete-computer-the-state-states-computer-the-state-state-states-computer-the-state-states-computer-the-state-states-computer-the-state-state-states-one-states-of the statements < 1436159061 710886 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436159111 199884 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436160100 213506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436160114 646070 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1436160492 737715 :password4!~password@197.76.130.81 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436160963 784284 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: it seems very fond of states < 1436160983 897488 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: anything interesting happened lately < 1436160992 875088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope hth < 1436161029 295310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not within esolangs, anyway < 1436161059 866737 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. tdh. < 1436161075 241250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how was your 4th of july < 1436161085 2304 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"just another day" < 1436161085 357365 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unamerican < 1436161108 624931 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm American and my 4th mostly was watching anime. < 1436161112 141054 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does norge have a day for fireworks < 1436161120 526342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, new year < 1436161131 823995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact it's the only day it's legal without permission < 1436161135 393946 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I did have barbecue for lunch. Delicious, delicious barbecue. < 1436161137 412094 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1436161138 678978 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty strange that some countries don't have an independence day < 1436161151 179877 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to invent another holiday eh < 1436161151 922114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the countries that I'm a citizen of do. < 1436161163 915785 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although trondheim has forbidden it in the city center < 1436161184 484055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the uk presumably doesn't < 1436161184 762127 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Israel, USA? < 1436161191 28622 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Finland. < 1436161200 674093 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Didn't know you had a third one in there. < 1436161201 654655 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun. < 1436161225 561652 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is impressive < 1436161231 822338 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :im glad its over < 1436161231 997106 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone has to drive the bus. < 1436161243 406142 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :fireworks terrified my dogs < 1436161266 683150 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine too < 1436161269 556731 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he's dead < 1436161270 58059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the week between christmas and new year is the only time ordinary people can legally buy fireworks. < 1436161272 80762 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it was great < 1436161274 52739 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :super fun < 1436161275 989196 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1436161309 150331 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: we can now legally buy them during the three days before the 4th and during the period you just described. < 1436161323 575839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh so not that different < 1436161346 314674 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :we get them twice a year. that's twice as awesome! < 1436161372 145954 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we can buy ground fireworks at any time, this rule is for the mortars and artillery) < 1436161423 653345 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :norway technically has an independence day but it's not really celebrated much. < 1436161447 960077 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the US, it depends on the state (and possibly also the city). < 1436161451 356117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the national day with all the celebration is the constitution day < 1436161564 928362 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there fireworks? < 1436161567 566713 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is your constitution good < 1436161607 416272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i assume so? they've cleaned it up lately, added more human rights and stuff, and prepared for the separation of church and state in 2017 < 1436161628 445658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was rather liberal even back in 1814 < 1436161628 624504 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's states that ban all fireworks. There's states that sell fireworks year round. < 1436161703 513092 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, you're actually getting seperation of church and state? That's fabulous. < 1436161704 358115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, they added parliamentarism, which we've had since 188something but _entirely_ unmentioned. < 1436161706 804304 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, pretty recently. < 1436161734 582795 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a shame that that's nowhere near as common as it should be. < 1436161746 96261 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even more a shame that there's people who want to end it in the US. < 1436161774 809921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: more or less. the king somehow managed to insist on keeping his requirement to be christian... < 1436161783 36554 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1436161785 894799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the church becomes self-governing < 1436161814 592789 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I'm one of those crazy people who doesn't much care for the idea of "a king". :P < 1436161825 211032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's a pretty nice guy, all considered < 1436161851 61131 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the concept I'm opposed to, not necessarily any individual monarch. < 1436161854 717879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The king does have to take an oath before Storting. < 1436161889 463228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hasn't actually read the new constitution, mind you. and doesn't remember most of the old. < 1436161900 548768 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like the current one Storted in 1991. < 1436161913 704395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :current what? < 1436161925 964611 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :King. < 1436161929 36385 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as though many Americans have read the Constitution either. < 1436161929 668509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1436161972 78891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok maybe that wasn't swatworthy < 1436161976 205793 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can never tell < 1436162020 218677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the left socialists in norway customarily makes a proposal in each parliament to abolish monarchy. it's almost as quaint a custom as the monarchy itself. < 1436162060 117093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because even the left socialists think the king is a nice guy < 1436162112 142024 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait *socialist lefts < 1436162114 140713 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan for king of norway < 1436162123 222201 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The UK has similarly quaint customs. Though, far more... British about them. :) < 1436162259 440003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ok maybe that wasn't swatworthy <-- it was pretty close hth < 1436162285 211266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Children have the right to respect for their human dignity. They have the right to be heard in questions that concern them, and due weight shall be attached to their views in accordance with their age and development." < 1436162292 776839 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this extend to asking "why?" over and over? < 1436162297 417749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the way things are going, they're risking dropping out of parliament in the next election. < 1436162310 200772 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much weight is attached to that < 1436162318 615696 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. the monarch isn't *allowed* in the House of Commons... < 1436162342 910440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you're assuming they get to actually _ask_ the questions. < 1436162351 535552 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I find kinda funny. < 1436162471 361080 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one thinks the king of finland is a nice guy < 1436162482 415187 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :norway is way ahead in that respect < 1436162510 536899 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone who knows of him things the Emperor of the United States is a nice guy. < 1436162513 619635 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :*thinks < 1436162533 557395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should be up to at least Norton 4 by now < 1436162551 357807 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Norton I had heirs. < 1436162564 256763 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a bold statement < 1436162572 34050 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even siblings? < 1436162584 175730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it take to get swatted around here? < 1436162589 409630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :napoleon 3 wasn't a descendant of 1 either < 1436162616 264645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sorry, i don't get it < 1436162631 916818 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :heirs/bold -> hairs/bald < 1436162635 268254 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not very good < 1436162637 122187 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, he had no heirs. < 1436162660 647397 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which if we go with standard US inheritance law, would mean that the State of California inherited the throne. < 1436162673 766039 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: your pun had to long edit path length hth < 1436162676 285785 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*too < 1436162679 572359 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And has, presumably, not seen fit to bestow this upon anyone else. < 1436162714 907872 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Long live California I, Emperor of the United States and Protector of Mexico! < 1436162754 434983 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"NOW THEREFORE, We Norton I, Deo Gratias, do hereby prohibit the Water Commissioners from signing the Spring Valley Water bill under penalty of decapitation until a sounder system shall have been adopted." < 1436162760 664013 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. harsh < 1436162791 728644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh one of the things they relatively recently changed in the norwegian constitution was to make the monarchy gender-neutral (with a single generation exception). and at the same time they cut off the heritage line so i think only the current king's descendants count now < 1436162807 561066 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1436162820 712566 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although hm, there may not have been any others before, because his father had only sisters) < 1436162833 954234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, _he_ had only sisters < 1436162842 535133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and his father was an only child < 1436162903 205283 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, some alledge that Norton I was the son of Napoleon III. < 1436162905 809962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the single generation exception is because the crown prince has an older sister, and they thought it was a bit late to switch) < 1436163015 641512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall the swedes didn't bother making an exception which meant Victoria suddenly became crown princess < 1436163137 81148 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has been reading Scandinavia and the World lately < 1436163241 27959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hasn't < 1436163478 734281 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION finds himself failing at sleep < 1436163510 538618 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank goodness California is 2 hours behind here. < 1436163629 551358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In California, you get to stay up two hours later in the evening. < 1436163642 705479 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then you get to sleep for two hours longer in the morning before you have to wake up. < 1436163651 152839 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a total of four hours' advantage. < 1436163656 359336 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. < 1436163957 6758 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf for treasurer of california < 1436164304 585361 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1436165255 613028 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION awakes < 1436167705 415177 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1436168128 260619 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Open-source CPUs? http://opencores.org/ < 1436168765 519510 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-26-74.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1436168799 766153 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-26-74.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1436168799 858143 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436168836 154398 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436168985 61008 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord. < 1436169140 418988 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436169146 283000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: dronf < 1436170814 821362 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If fungot fnords, does tongue drone? < 1436170814 923941 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: or are fnord keyboards like that? to test environment? as well < 1436170948 763430 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many fungots do you need to change a lightbulb. < 1436170948 969211 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: riastradh, to a search for felleisen in the searchbox... < 1436171375 597294 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436173249 457798 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tell I only removed the nicks from comments of the form "nick: xxx" and not "nick, xxx". < 1436173458 156469 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1436173641 32137 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436173729 229809 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :This morning I made some progress on my IOCCC entry < 1436173732 978786 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It now does something < 1436173801 130220 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that the obfuscation contest? < 1436173835 44977 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1436174333 709260 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1436174732 493856 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: is it open? < 1436174738 44642 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just a pre-entry? < 1436174745 280248 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter I am afraid < 1436174755 681122 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had the idea during the last contest but I didn't get the chance to write it < 1436174762 901061 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least I didn't write it < 1436174868 750861 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :char************* < 1436174876 933674 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm lacking any good idea for IOCCC nowadays < 1436174932 928440 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1436176356 645393 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm lacking any good idea in general nowadays < 1436177182 922068 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1436177348 556085 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get distracted really easy and end up with a whole bunch of ideas that I never act on < 1436177373 713737 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I often wake up and think I've found a proof to P=NP (it normally turns out to be the proof that NP is in EXPTIME) < 1436177487 23357 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have already proven that, im looking for a way to monetize it before i publish it < 1436177516 971568 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :That NP is in EXPTIME? < 1436178077 820960 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436178569 419365 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, b_jonas < 1436178573 733056 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :...boily < 1436178583 605648 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why doesn't my tab complete treat joins as messages? < 1436178590 649782 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, b_jonas as well if you are around < 1436178624 889652 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1436178651 30025 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are you doing, b_jonas ? < 1436178859 8505 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon mataneb! < 1436178883 690113 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are y'all by this fine Monday? < 1436178906 307554 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I am working from home today < 1436178922 637910 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :As my supervisor is at a conference in Milan and I don't have a key to the office < 1436178943 716296 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I am not doing great with this work < 1436178975 764929 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many things I would rather be doing < 1436179133 487251 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436179148 150524 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not have a great work ethic :( < 1436179282 914104 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are you boily < 1436179380 983639 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436179798 931460 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still in my waking up phase. just had a bowl of Corn Flakes. < 1436180282 398996 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436181666 390466 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: GROOVY CHICKEN < 1436182109 497926 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1436182530 267061 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436185177 49821 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hot. < 1436185182 125275 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not as hot as the last few days. < 1436185567 457039 :quietello!~bcd@209.86.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436186239 944526 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: FNORD! < 1436186240 253838 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: hm. it seems both return " 11", myself just persuaded i that me is wrong." < 1436186510 814575 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436186565 485938 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1436186576 801144 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-20-139.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1436186616 163996 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-20-139.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1436186616 254165 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436186619 605964 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You're a sheep. < 1436186619 709566 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: i couldn't defined it except with people to whom it appeals, etc < 1436186693 783798 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBL < 1436187127 147773 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1436188031 352312 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1436189050 898434 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lsesdhcbjptftptb QUIT : < 1436189173 112509 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1436189450 699881 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does Java have dload, iload and whatnot < 1436189454 749144 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and CIL only ldloc? < 1436189460 996960 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436189462 793308 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*JVM < 1436189464 707450 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1436189464 761323 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436189506 961277 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :aload, fload, dload, iload < 1436189584 786377 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-frgwsfsezoopaqlu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436189827 555071 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1436190111 385368 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436190123 176903 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :anord, dnord, inord < 1436190266 364606 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: If fnord works on FILE *s, does nord work on file descriptors? < 1436190266 689428 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i'd do the kernel in use... i just want to understand it. it seems like he's saying something like good thing ( tm) < 1436190349 824948 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully your kernel uses protected mode. < 1436190499 155915 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a bot to mess with the kernel it's running under, isn't that a bit like doing brain surgery on your own brain? < 1436190583 568154 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a good thing < 1436190587 949057 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way you'll know if you mess up < 1436190593 903223 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1436190600 511960 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more like dating your prison warden. < 1436190635 367538 :hkgit03!c100f8f1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.193.0.248.241 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436190977 542995 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's a bad thing? < 1436191468 984461 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still can't believe that people speedrun puttputt < 1436191479 853169 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wc < 1436191644 301116 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1436191645 890043 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's faster < 1436191667 282911 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if(a.foo == CONST && b.foo == CONST) or if(a.foo == CONST && a.foo == b.foo) < 1436191686 933411 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if(a.foo == b.foo && a.foo == CONST) < 1436191840 67038 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at the assembly output and see. < 1436191925 575224 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that's too much work, the speed difference is probably negligible and you should just use whichever one is easiest to understand. < 1436192041 136812 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the compiler will probably optimize them all to sthe same thing anyway < 1436192065 560922 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436192077 650701 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note that it also depends on the surrounding code and the processor. For instance, if you've just accessed a.foo and b.foo on a RISC processor, it's probably fastest to compare them directly first < 1436192086 200727 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :since they'll still be in registers < 1436192267 750578 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might also depend on the frequency of a.foo being equal to b.foo without being CONST < 1436192435 883579 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1436192508 715981 :hkgit03!c100f8f1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.193.0.248.241 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1436192531 606691 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I concur with the "compiler will do what the compiler wants" point, but if you're curious, here's one example of what might happen: http://sprunge.us/ShXH < 1436192851 783068 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a.foo equals CONST and b.foo equals CONST or if a.foo equals CONST and a.foo equals b.foo or if a.foo equals b.foo and a.foo equals CONST < 1436192945 634970 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot :If a.foo equals CONST and b.foo equals CONST or if a.foo equals CONST and a.foo equals b.foo or if a.foo equals b.foo and a.foo equals CONST < 1436192945 847005 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i get an url to the information that's presumably or easily kept there, go right ahead. i don't < 1436192973 22160 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot knows that cloud computing is the answer. < 1436192973 76048 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: i'm on the other < 1436193322 232122 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What, the other cloud? < 1436193322 334261 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: because it sucks. they fixed it :(. < 1436193335 254025 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it was better before being fixed. < 1436193588 904719 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So all three of them use exactly the same set of instructions, all of which always execute. < 1436193598 672624 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least with fizzie's compiler. < 1436193607 281684 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming fizzie actually used a compiler. < 1436193639 68865 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe ey just wrote the assembly by hand. < 1436193698 797872 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW, 'f' is slightly longer, due to one more immediate than the others. < 1436193771 91619 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :My advice would now be: try each one in your code and see what results in your code running most quickly. < 1436193881 754274 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come now, the proper solution is to try all versions in parallel, interleaving the computations fairly and taking the first one (if any) that halts. < 1436194335 887570 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-amulpfoyupblnwzp JOIN :#esoteric < 1436194687 292811 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ycdbcskwemyyjdwy JOIN :#esoteric < 1436195429 281892 :ocharles__!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xbhxjkbgdyvyxjhr QUIT : < 1436195446 762784 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vwsldnrhspnmhckd JOIN :#esoteric < 1436195449 390986 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah they all compile to pretty much the same < 1436195455 773191 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though in some version gcc -O3 seems to insert a nop < 1436195637 8927 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1436195694 651266 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/wJpxcuQa < 1436196107 138100 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436196107 351104 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436196137 61381 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You even got the good old %eiz register involved. < 1436196897 940814 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love how on Stack Exchange sites, you can go look at the worst questions ever asked. < 1436197094 714380 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1436197350 264449 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436197387 222578 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's one: http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1345624/please-write-down-exact-output-after-the-following-statements-are-proceesed < 1436197598 355622 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1436197603 859163 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9,9,12,15? < 1436197709 198473 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about searching for the lowest-rated questions with the highest-rated answers? < 1436198493 583202 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Malbolge14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43427&oldid=41853 5* 03Pgimeno 5* (+1) 10/* External resources */ Update a link < 1436198644 755142 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Malbolge14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43428&oldid=43427 5* 03Pgimeno 5* (+6) 10/* External resources */ update another link < 1436199585 872666 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-154-145.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1436199618 654080 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436199747 971642 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Client Quit < 1436199909 873044 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436200673 343672 :password2!~password@197.76.130.81 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436201282 853789 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1436201553 527818 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1436202333 870932 :hppavilion1!89e58819@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.25 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436202337 599856 :hppavilion1!89e58819@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1436202656 293409 :password2!~password@197.76.130.81 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436202805 3864 :hppavilion1!89e58819@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.25 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sighs < 1436202866 761575 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1436202989 524511 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436203087 475046 :password2!~password@197.76.132.155 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436203120 506196 :password2!~password@197.76.132.155 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1436203167 314072 :password2!~password@197.76.132.155 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436203198 402156 :password2!~password@197.76.132.155 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1436203234 43554 :password2!~password@197.76.132.155 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436203447 990259 :password2!~password@197.76.132.155 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436203971 943686 :hppavilion1!89e58819@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.25 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1436204917 637224 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1436205257 466451 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436205623 326614 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:548c:6694:1597:4adf JOIN :#esoteric < 1436205805 59421 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436206004 550505 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436206128 275695 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436207167 667448 :macmkboy3!~42360202@41.206.11.48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436207227 731509 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl NICK :mauris < 1436207296 655829 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@198.134.93.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436207590 819825 :mihow!~mihow@172.56.33.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436207690 631714 :macmkboy3!~42360202@41.206.11.48 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436208088 155387 :Vent!~Thisbe@198.134.93.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436208229 133910 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@198.134.93.254 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436208274 743904 :hppavilion9001!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436208280 737604 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436208284 863150 :hppavilion9001!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So who's on? < 1436208303 955460 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am here. < 1436208305 887275 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436208310 339420 :hppavilion9001!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1436208311 614877 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-1-244.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion9001 : Yes. < 1436208314 339637 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :greetings < 1436208314 674980 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-1-244.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :He is on first. < 1436208329 283928 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's on second though? < 1436208336 139523 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:548c:6694:1597:4adf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And where does that put me? < 1436208341 853477 :hppavilion9001!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8th < 1436208426 244386 :hppavilion9001!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 8th section of hell, that is < 1436208433 840539 :hppavilion9001!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or circle < 1436208436 443056 :hppavilion9001!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure which < 1436208515 142072 :Vent!~Thisbe@198.134.93.254 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436208637 970838 :macmkboy!~42360202@41.206.11.48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436208651 553198 :macmkboy!~42360202@41.206.11.48 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436208808 121370 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1436208838 356080 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom ooo < 1436208910 478136 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436209063 934352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1436210142 613778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436210144 769006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1436210155 921369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tab completion indicates that HackEgo is in this channel, but I guess not. < 1436210368 957173 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. Are Monads Just: functor thingies where you can collapse the layers in, say, m (m (m (m a))) -> m a , and do so in whichever order you like < 1436210397 582809 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that would be a semigroup in the category of endofunctors, not a monoid < 1436210412 248830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have m^n a -> m a < 1436210415 60286 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where n can be 0 < 1436210455 980479 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e. a -> m a, m a -> m a, m (m a) -> m a, m (m (m a)) -> m a, ... < 1436210472 105961 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is pretty close the the "monads are just free monad monad monad algebras" thing. < 1436210478 551750 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But not exactly the same.) < 1436210535 209482 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotcha. do you need to say something extra for the "left/right identity" monad laws to hold? < 1436210563 816756 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should write out those laws in terms of join and see what shows up (but iirc they are actually most clearly about "left/right identity" if you look at >=>) < 1436210764 194947 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you need more than the associativity law. < 1436210778 145580 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same as a monoid. < 1436210884 433026 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if "semigroups in the category of endofunctors" are any cool! < 1436210945 109569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hackage.haskell.org/package/semigroupoids-5.0.0.2/docs/Data-Functor-Bind.html < 1436211013 141229 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, class Monad m where retract :: Free m a -> m a < 1436211026 154967 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The laws are that retract is a T-algebra. < 1436211032 127332 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something along those lines. < 1436211288 2114 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, the associativity law really does become join (g <$> join (f <$> m)) === join (join (g <$> f <$> m)) if you fiddle with it enough!! < 1436211298 1058 :mihow!~mihow@172.56.33.103 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436211320 336750 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is many possible way of a monad defining, such as, the monad laws is: The Kleisli category is < 1436211476 845014 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: looks like Map is the only nifty thing listed there that isn't a Monad, and that one isn't a Monad only for a sort of silly reason :( < 1436211482 286158 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :(re: Bind) < 1436211515 530263 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any category with more than one object has at least one more monad than the number of final objects it has. < 1436211524 706172 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo zzo38 should write a good ol' monad tutorial < 1436212069 632284 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43429&oldid=42809 5* 03108.236.129.107 5* (-11) 10Removed example of "b****fuck" being used to censor the name because it doesn't censor the offensive part. < 1436212086 629586 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1436212089 216177 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1436212092 837054 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looool < 1436212148 262128 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :b****s are gross though, ew < 1436212225 36222 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha < 1436212397 587193 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, what? < 1436212429 551434 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody has no sense of humor < 1436212459 546483 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:548c:6694:1597:4adf PART :#esoteric < 1436212468 509986 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most people don't < 1436212707 873769 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436213310 507572 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1436213328 26922 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436213328 326294 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1436213328 380249 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436215165 116765 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436215428 769040 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436215429 708955 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436215523 302051 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Client Quit < 1436216478 425716 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436216585 383002 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436216620 34767 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera NICK :eliza < 1436216636 383492 :eliza!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera NICK :izabera < 1436217054 83853 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1436217293 36575 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ycdbcskwemyyjdwy QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1436217985 710897 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436218106 575560 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1436218624 92991 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436218927 661639 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436219125 961209 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1436219127 217990 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 062100Z 23006KT 15SM FEW050 28/16 A3003 RMK CU1 CU TR SLP170 DENSITY ALT 1500FT < 1436219130 687764 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1436219131 337954 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 062120Z 29020KT 8000 RA FEW003 SCT009 BKN014 13/12 Q0999 RMK WIND 670FT 30023KT < 1436219153 294666 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask oerjan how's summer so far? < 1436219153 593406 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1436219224 884644 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43430&oldid=43429 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+11) 10Undo revision 43429 by [[Special:Contributions/108.236.129.107|108.236.129.107]] ([[User talk:108.236.129.107|talk]]) Someone else didn't get the joke. < 1436219444 313529 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYVR < 1436219444 659913 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYVR 062100Z 14007KT 100V170 8SM BKN038 OVC220 26/12 A2997 RMK FU5SC1CI2 SLP149 DENSITY ALT 1200FT < 1436219468 233813 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436219472 60532 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FU? first time I've seen that kind of cloud. < 1436219486 38884 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is it a FUngout cloud? < 1436219486 420862 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: later tell psy-kosh i understand negative temperatures much better since they forbid users to use it < 1436219506 639358 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it's a negative temperature fungot cloud. mystery cleared. < 1436219507 16850 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ( use srfi-1)") it will all look like functions but use different philosophies < 1436220180 613216 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1436220552 864119 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like functions but uses different pilosophies, huh? < 1436220676 941014 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:37f7:cac0:1c80:f313:5e97:5d06 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436220884 572373 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Thisbe < 1436220907 672230 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDudello. this is fungot we're talking about. he thinks on another completely different level. < 1436220908 216643 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: with the original superman actor? i've heard of them before. but with a lot of countries just keep their mouths shut and stop babbling. which would that be < 1436221033 71018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1436221062 568962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1436221062 671033 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily asked 31m 49s ago: how's summer so far? < 1436221092 989517 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily variable, but mostly cold. < 1436221093 92249 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1436221112 54007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :today it poured down < 1436221184 822267 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1436221185 41781 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 1m 31s ago: variable, but mostly cold. < 1436221237 728618 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436221245 653464 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Wright < 1436221277 31296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is suffering from LackEgo < 1436221302 152049 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, but I've been here for a while < 1436221309 93123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie HackEgo is in outer space again < 1436221309 146979 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1436221332 442541 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wright you are. < 1436221346 106055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you just need a Rong. < 1436221413 999776 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. hm. < 1436221437 24719 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can you be an interim HackEgo? < 1436221437 467478 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ah! i was going insane trying to use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/ new/ scheme < 1436222120 352990 :hppavilion9001!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436222283 970022 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1436222440 198602 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: NITRO CHICKEN < 1436223105 325597 :hppavilion1!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436223108 659502 :hppavilion1!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So who's on? < 1436223174 763058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the award for best channel-killing question goes to... < 1436223189 297661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(half killing, channel was pretty dead already) < 1436223192 324053 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*kidding < 1436223199 296350 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid fingers < 1436223301 387309 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"FU" seems to mean smoke; there was smoke here yesterday < 1436223359 314472 :hppavilion1!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436223427 940201 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: where are you? The west coast up near Vancouver is a mess of smoke right now, air quality warning is at 8/10 < 1436223476 481240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is pretty sure that's approximately where zzo38 is < 1436223502 82417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally, anyway < 1436223512 153894 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: would make sense, I mostly curious whether it's hit Seattle or anywhere else sort of close < 1436223546 245218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can report that trondheim, norway is remarkably smoke-free, possibly on account of being thoroughly soaked hth < 1436223634 432110 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KSEA < 1436223635 58510 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KSEA 062253Z VRB04KT 10SM FEW040 BKN250 28/12 A2999 RMK AO2 SLP159 T02830122 < 1436223656 519273 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, no FU clouds, if that's actually smoke < 1436223661 955214 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1436223662 573502 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 062253Z 27015KT 10SM SCT200 22/13 A3005 RMK AO2 SLP174 T02220128 < 1436223675 579511 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KSJC < 1436223675 821813 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KSJC 062253Z 32016G21KT 10SM FEW100 BKN160 24/13 A3003 RMK AO2 SLP168 T02390133 $ < 1436223676 879491 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1436223900 736723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1436223901 200893 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 062250Z 29021KT 8000 RA FEW009 BKN020 13/12 Q0999 RMK WIND 670FT 30023KT < 1436223939 363196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think 13/12 means it's pretty humid < 1436223946 669223 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am at Delta, here the smoke is cleared up a bit < 1436224034 305094 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ah. Can see the outline of the mountains from Burnaby again, so there's that < 1436224561 615315 :diplomaticus!~diplomati@c-73-29-126-163.hsd1.nj.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436224947 572797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm present iwc poll presents a problem < 1436224955 742776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i answer atlantic or pacific < 1436225001 419995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have, on two occasions, been at beaches on a pacific coast. but they were long ago and i cannot remember if i swam or not. < 1436225096 570911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they were both as part of the same trip in 1988) < 1436225142 71369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do, however, clearly remember the horrible sunburn i got. < 1436225301 939671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION guesses < 1436225338 166556 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which poll? < 1436225397 13796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the irregular webcomic frontpage... < 1436225425 350571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I searched the front page with C-f. < 1436225441 454082 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :drop-downs are scow < 1436225522 327261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1988 wasn't that long ago on the scale of the pacific ocean hth < 1436225627 912281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i'm wondering if dmm's promise to write an annotation on anything you want if you support him at patreon will ever come back to bite him < 1436225656 566682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :($5 minimum) < 1436225791 148227 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I tell whether HackEgo's in the channel? < 1436225809 2764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tab completion tells me that it is but seems unreliable. < 1436225815 661835 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/names fills the screen up with spam. < 1436225828 910786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it breaks if HackEgo has made a wiki announcement since you joined < 1436225850 864514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not, btw < 1436225890 488304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess cycling the channel is also spammy < 1436225904 597694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's what happened. < 1436225913 483000 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx tdh iwhand < 1436225931 282801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you win < 1436226007 565917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a nice day < 1436226892 223181 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436227637 89785 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436227901 464409 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436228367 598271 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ただいま < 1436228596 888630 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod JOIN :#esoteric < 1436228791 674838 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea: everything is a void***... (infinite number of *) < 1436228915 664619 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds pretty philosophical. < 1436228917 434846 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what operations could one do on those? assign, dereference, reference, compare equality? < 1436228935 622409 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :then we represent an integer N as a void **n such that **n=n and *n-n = N < 1436228981 389269 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in oter words a pointer loop of length 1 and "span" N < 1436229018 951211 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1436229185 447813 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this means that you can;t just stick an integer anywhere. if *A is "2" then *(A+1) can't contain "1" or "-1", and *(A+2) would obviously contain "-2" < 1436229248 759374 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here, have some randomly generated #esoteric quotes: http://lpaste.net/136069 < 1436229260 694439 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hmm, but the program doesn't work with a little message" < 1436229365 79826 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Like, I saw some implementations of a mathematician" :D < 1436229371 683265 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how were these generated < 1436229401 374306 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate it when compilers can't annoy my instructions < 1436229439 8878 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: a neural net apparentluy < 1436229939 77814 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod NICK :relrod < 1436230177 353965 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, neural nets. < 1436230182 896256 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather, a neural net. < 1436230188 359439 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Karpathy's Internet-famous one. < 1436230433 153795 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1436231647 131384 :hppavilion1!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436231649 633748 :hppavilion1!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1436231701 69799 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1436231707 802167 :hppavilion1!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yuy < 1436231715 486406 :hppavilion1!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone responded < 1436231788 594934 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What esoteric coding things you itnerested in? < 1436231793 699285 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*interested < 1436232437 994136 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-wvcvxrkiowmnnohm QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436232458 50263 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-yntecdnfteyesoci JOIN :#esoteric < 1436232494 68637 :hppavilion1!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436233636 919170 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woo, OS development. < 1436233687 878444 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like in order to build this one, I need "a cross-compiling copy of binutils". < 1436233726 800325 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you need to sacrifice a virgin to get one < 1436233754 539906 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately, it just so happens... < 1436235038 551221 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436235120 373620 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436235534 723515 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1436236665 42715 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1436236841 897860 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1436237253 680181 :diplomaticus!~diplomati@c-73-29-126-163.hsd1.nj.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1436238643 56057 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:37f7:cac0:1c80:f313:5e97:5d06 QUIT :Quit: Left < 1436238960 298350 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436239501 889662 :hppavilion1noili!18ed9e05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.237.158.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436239507 996936 :hppavilion1noili!18ed9e05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.237.158.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1436239517 660338 :hppavilion1noili!18ed9e05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.237.158.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: < 1436239626 64226 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sup < 1436239662 451181 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean to link something there, hppavilion1noili < 1436239672 217703 :hppavilion1noili!18ed9e05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.237.158.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1436239673 859689 :hppavilion1noili!18ed9e05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.237.158.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1436239674 531931 :hppavilion1noili!18ed9e05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.237.158.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1436239685 597077 :hppavilion1noili!18ed9e05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.237.158.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just looking for someone to talk to :P < 1436239692 452356 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :About what? < 1436239697 133793 :hppavilion1noili!18ed9e05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.237.158.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDK < 1436239701 365337 :hppavilion1noili!18ed9e05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.237.158.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably Esolangs < 1436239705 165253 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I'm actually off to bed at the moment. < 1436239706 657892 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What esolangs? < 1436239709 702966 :hppavilion1noili!18ed9e05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.237.158.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1436239710 924231 :hppavilion1noili!18ed9e05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.237.158.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1436239713 589861 :hppavilion1noili!18ed9e05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.237.158.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHo knows? < 1436239714 533470 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sleep based esolands. < 1436239717 344924 :hppavilion1noili!18ed9e05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.237.158.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1436239721 789055 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And esolangs. < 1436239724 826665 :hppavilion1noili!18ed9e05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.237.158.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SLEEPfuck < 1436239736 646806 :hppavilion1noili!18ed9e05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.237.158.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um < 1436239742 279347 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We cal those we dreams. < 1436239743 288660 :hppavilion1noili!18ed9e05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.237.158.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretend I didn't just say that < 1436239751 390782 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wet < 1436239758 451536 :hppavilion1noili!18ed9e05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.237.158.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1436239787 731169 :hppavilion1noili!18ed9e05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.237.158.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :t(-.-t) < 1436239850 284971 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION jumps into the air in front of a banner reading "Unstopunble". < 1436239991 513906 :password2_!~password@197.76.141.37 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436240086 274259 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other ideas for sleep esolangs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream#Neurological_theories < 1436240144 891751 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1436240592 12584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm sleepfuck is like brainfuck, except the IP sometimes inexplicably jumps between parts of the program that look similar. < 1436240639 552886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the program evolution looks locally like it makes sense, but not when you try to put it all together. < 1436240709 919308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i wonder if real life is like that. < 1436240729 729240 :hppavilion1noili!18ed9e05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.237.158.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inrwearinf... < 1436240734 863288 :hppavilion1noili!18ed9e05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.237.158.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Interesting... < 1436240782 9245 :hppavilion1noili!18ed9e05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.237.158.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oerjan, go make the page. I need a definition of "Similar" < 1436240936 661483 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, making a brainfuck derivative on the wiki would destroy my cred tdnh < 1436240968 347611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also risk a brain bricking < 1436241105 372896 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But how can you call yourself a member of #esoteric without a Brainfuck derivative? < 1436241173 340793 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :truly a conundrum < 1436241629 963136 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many bricks you need to make it? < 1436241647 389060 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca NICK :ppro < 1436241853 711394 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Sleepborge < 1436242021 103236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: itym -bolge hth < 1436242060 840212 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right, Malbolge for the language, Malborge for the circle of hell < 1436242073 681861 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, Malebolge for the circle. < 1436242123 839840 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1436242131 475963 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should look things up < 1436242139 664703 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before I say anything < 1436242181 131590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :malborge is a misspelling which i've somehow seen around lately. < 1436242263 833833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just change your nick to FleeFurr and claim it was all on pulpose. < 1436242288 16109 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe Furfur and say I'm an angel < 1436242298 791733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :furrfu < 1436242394 474077 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*le sigh* https://www.reddit.com/r/self/comments/3cbt5c/please_stop_downvoting_ellen_paos_comments/ < 1436242513 264802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to complete the irony, ellen pao needs to respond there and be downvoted to oblivion. < 1436242611 344288 :ppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the popcorn has been great this week < 1436242756 744379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely you mean the poprn < 1436242950 285314 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost freaked out when I saw ais523 making changes to the Wikihack wikia, but that was just to mention the Nethackwiki < 1436243071 498495 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1436243945 787832 :password2_!~password@197.76.141.37 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436243995 651066 :password2_!~password@197.76.141.37 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436244358 141679 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:37f7:cac0:e1c1:fb7f:fe33:2815 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436244904 744500 :hppavilion1noili!18ed9e05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.237.158.5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436245230 185248 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1436245270 402863 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1436245483 799424 :Alcest!~alcest@93.186.169.30 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1436246573 370323 :password2_!~password@197.76.141.37 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436247466 634801 :hppavilion1!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436247471 840460 :hppavilion1!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hu < 1436247809 240497 :Vent!~Thisbe@2602:306:37f7:cac0:e1c1:fb7f:fe33:2815 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436247917 239102 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:37f7:cac0:e1c1:fb7f:fe33:2815 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436249023 869075 :Vent!~Thisbe@2602:306:37f7:cac0:e1c1:fb7f:fe33:2815 QUIT :Quit: Left < 1436249039 208192 :Vent!~Thisbe@2602:306:37f7:cac0:e1c1:fb7f:fe33:2815 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436249065 437218 :Vent!~Thisbe@2602:306:37f7:cac0:e1c1:fb7f:fe33:2815 QUIT :Client Quit < 1436249084 243731 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:37f7:cac0:e1c1:fb7f:fe33:2815 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436249521 215096 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436249595 900783 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436250154 677857 :hppavilion1!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436250832 328816 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:37f7:cac0:e1c1:fb7f:fe33:2815 QUIT :Quit: Left < 1436251425 302697 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436251659 976632 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1436251792 330392 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436251972 887233 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436255238 174290 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord < 1436255273 783943 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1436255277 285851 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting @pointers < 1436255288 211353 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :incrementing is & and decrementing is * < 1436255302 151803 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but meh < 1436255532 469324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Mine neither. < 1436255650 890781 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-frgwsfsezoopaqlu QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1436257814 34769 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436258650 428538 :Alcest!~alcest@93.186.169.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436260237 356451 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I make Mozilla use a HTTP proxy for an arbitrary URI scheme and otherwise assume it is like HTTP? < 1436260422 686180 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I doubt you'd be able to convince mozilla to do that. maybe if you recompile the whole thing and modify its source, or if you just get another browser for this. < 1436260497 913762 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a ALLOWS_PROXY_HTTP flag, but I am not sure how to make it work < 1436260523 684685 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, "low potassium", hehe < 1436260674 941420 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1436263514 789846 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LOWI < 1436263515 201997 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 070950Z 28004KT 230V320 9999 FEW075 30/19 Q1016 NOSIG < 1436263556 108431 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1436263877 943844 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436264437 611888 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436264437 920550 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436264453 504520 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436264740 875553 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: How would it handle urn:foo:9 then < 1436264744 36380 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a valid URI < 1436264950 429579 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: I don't mean all URIs, I mean only schemes I specify. For example if kerjejr:// is specified then it will do "GET kerjejr://whatever" < 1436265006 637751 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if https:// is specified then it does that for https:// and so on, but does not apply to any other URI (such as telnet:// or whatever) < 1436265229 220610 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? kerjejr < 1436265240 957290 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1436265253 146908 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... :I < 1436265275 684253 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWIGNAHARGHFLBLGLFLBLBLBLBLBL! < 1436265529 39095 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436265542 47447 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody should make a formula age(x) where x is the number of Pokémons a person knows < 1436265797 580916 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :... one? < 1436265872 842925 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You only know one Pokémon? < 1436265874 678929 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you? < 1436265911 877626 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, there's like at least 17 pokemon < 1436265920 459373 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :my generation should know about 150 Pokémons < 1436265943 699242 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :future generations should know more < 1436265947 754925 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and past generation should know less < 1436265950 827336 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... none actually < 1436265959 341330 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the formula might not be very precise for old people < 1436265983 998936 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do I have to know their numbers, their names, their appearance, or just that there are 151 pokémons and no more? < 1436265991 406614 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: Last I checked I considered myself human :P < 1436266005 494235 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... the website would display images of Pokémons and you will select those that appear familiar to you < 1436266009 867956 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's the easiest way < 1436266015 423505 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it will calculate your age based on that < 1436266055 131076 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or display their names < 1436266060 689778 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to know their number, name, colors, elements, and hit-points < 1436266062 780759 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :images are probably too copyrighted < 1436266119 588953 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that case I know none of them. I've heard there's a franchise with several games... something about collecting them all... < 1436266133 689851 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found it stupid as a teenager, never got over that first impression ;) < 1436266150 844 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'll treat you as an outlier. < 1436266160 544267 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: um, I'm quite sure I don't recognize that many pokemons < 1436266179 390692 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should be able to recognize roughly 150 < 1436266184 830446 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you also have to know their number, name, colors, elements and hit points? I wouldn't know all that for any pokemon < 1436266201 27725 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, me neither. < 1436266205 988206 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can probably link names to images < 1436266208 345359 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what? the "collect them all" is only a tagline, isn't it? < 1436266217 260134 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Catch 'em all < 1436266223 634915 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you're asking the wrong person. < 1436266233 185450 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you are not a real pokemon fan < 1436266239 846285 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could probably link about... I dunno, five or ten between names and images < 1436266345 435745 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ten isn't quite enough < 1436266347 189484 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pikachu exists. < 1436266368 634846 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but, Pikachu is #25 < 1436266380 476986 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, do you have to tell their colors from the image? I think I could guess that for more than ten < 1436266402 108294 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but telling all of the number, name, colors, elements and hit points together? definitely not < 1436266598 883647 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go to the kind of hotel that the color of lights in elevator for each floor, tell you which room number on that floor by the pokemons of that color, rather than grouping 100-199 on one floor and 200-299 on next floor, you do by pokemon numbers colors by floors < 1436266646 448250 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this kind of idea? < 1436266694 431096 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it could cause problems < 1436266781 503133 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I suppose so, although this is something in a dream of such a hotel (dream is very strange things), but also might be good to people who like pokemon < 1436267084 997421 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436267090 570958 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Is that better? < 1436267250 160665 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks fizzie < 1436267250 941701 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, fizzie. Thizzie. < 1436267274 45975 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? kerjejr < 1436267274 725078 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerjejr? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1436267276 9686 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436267280 771827 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaah ^^ < 1436267335 514675 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :There can only be one < 1436267372 743886 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436267505 802457 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: would it be a full pokemon themed hotel, or just a few little things like the room numbering? < 1436267976 125119 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I think I don't know? < 1436267995 576188 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SCHEMATIC CHICKEN < 1436268752 164220 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1436269414 233340 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1436270025 51220 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Paintfuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43431&oldid=36074 5* 03Pgimeno 5* (+132) 10/* External paintfuck programs */ Add an interesting decimal counter (the link to the other one is apparently broken) < 1436270195 13306 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436270555 60067 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Paintfuck14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43432&oldid=43431 5* 03Pgimeno 5* (+7) 10/* External resources */ Point link to canvas version - Canvas element is ubiquitous nowadays < 1436271471 690952 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436271494 273297 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436272404 830427 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBS < 1436272430 635379 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1436272751 791468 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436273515 751148 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436274290 929087 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LOWI < 1436274291 487699 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 071250Z VRB03KT 9999 FEW080 36/17 Q1013 NOSIG < 1436274295 596928 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much :/ < 1436274602 455464 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1436274607 949318 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Client Quit < 1436274617 919189 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1436276504 228769 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436276879 233272 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so hot you need gloves to open the door. < 1436276895 726697 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the door handle will burn your hand. < 1436277089 208021 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436278517 841489 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436278822 914097 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436279071 662083 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436280011 740413 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't there air conditioners that cool by heating water? < 1436280019 516937 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that physically impossible anyway < 1436280032 563526 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the usual air conditioners require a tube for the hot air that is coming out of them < 1436280047 725203 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means you need a whole in the wall somewhere < 1436280064 226224 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can't make a hole in the wall if it's a rented room :D < 1436280138 240429 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so instead of producing hot air they should produce hot water < 1436280145 17427 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obviously below boiling temperature) < 1436280159 971115 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :from time to time you'll have to empty the water and replace it with cool water < 1436280784 752779 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: Sure, that'd be possible < 1436280825 804893 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd probably have to be a closed container of water to prevent evaporation < 1436280841 871707 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Water does have a high enough heat capacity for this to be possible < 1436280927 306233 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1436281150 405749 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :34 degrees room temperature isn't very funny < 1436281271 956271 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_, make sure you are drinking enough water! < 1436281434 937651 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of putting heat outside, put the air conditioner in the doorway so it heats the rest of the building. < 1436281506 252065 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: I don't think you want to heat the building when it's already 34°C < 1436281515 419456 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't. < 1436281546 13810 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now it's the rest of the building's problem, and they can use another air conditioner to move that heat further toward a window. < 1436281604 87965 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either that, or one could get a fridge or freezer and run it outside/in a garage or similarly ventable area. < 1436281622 956508 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then just cool something with a large heat capacity and bring it indoors to absorb lots of heat. < 1436281694 480618 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://google.com/search?q=linux+pipe+buffer+size < 1436281844 944252 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This confirms my belief that google will be the one to achieve the semantic web < 1436281925 423454 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duckduckgo does pretty well too < 1436281977 642143 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although for that particular query it doesn't show a box on top, I've seen it show boxes with stackoverflow answers before for other things < 1436282185 533981 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:37f7:cac0:a56d:6ad4:3ea3:3cf4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436282198 762649 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote unnatural < 1436282201 972721 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1240) after a while doing esolangs, you kind-of forget negative numbers exist they're so unnatural < 1436282738 457207 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=largest+known+prime+number < 1436282766 94720 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It used to say 257,885,161, but they fixed it. < 1436282840 376002 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says 17,425,170 now for me < 1436282911 74011 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1436282956 194610 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is neither prime nor particularly large < 1436283042 371004 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the number of digits < 1436283064 46738 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not the largest known prime number < 1436283146 414432 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well for me it says 2^57885161 − 1, which has 17425170 digits. < 1436283205 449333 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has the number I wrote as the heading for me < 1436283257 533400 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: That number is pretty large. < 1436283273 62040 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can think of bigger numbers < 1436283275 21574 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually google doesn't show any of these things for me ... the boxes are one of the things they omit (by refreshing the page immediately) when javascript is disabled < 1436283458 808250 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :IANA is asking me weird questions :) < 1436283511 775500 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :about my port registration request < 1436283864 920185 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: what questions exactly? < 1436284892 946484 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1436286026 819526 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complex numbers < 1436286032 38114 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are the real real numbers < 1436286089 377324 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: We don't even know if there are infinitely many Mersenne primes < 1436286140 393736 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you're looking for really large primes, you'll invariably look for Mersenne primes < 1436286185 457634 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1436286406 844156 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real languages are like real numbers. Many problems can't be solved with them, and using them for analysis is terrible. < 1436286742 518159 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, if google wants to, it can easily update the result for the largest known prime < 1436286756 11081 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As of March 2013, GIMPS has a sustained aggregate throughput of approximately 137.023 TFLOP/s" < 1436287745 477142 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBL < 1436287791 905865 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1436289331 119484 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1436289528 749702 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado PRIVMSG #esoteric :buenas < 1436289539 296821 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436290531 675612 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436291724 129002 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:37f7:cac0:a56d:6ad4:3ea3:3cf4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436291747 149713 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:37f7:cac0:8c19:90a8:a00a:cf41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436291797 354207 :password2_!~password@197.76.130.238 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436292912 403288 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436292996 403552 :password2_!~password@197.76.130.238 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436293343 889697 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436293730 297096 :llue!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436293730 394069 :llue!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1436293730 394130 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436293917 964311 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436294444 69438 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:37f7:cac0:8c19:90a8:a00a:cf41 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436295839 328652 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436295866 54489 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:2850:2b68:3838:f4dc JOIN :#esoteric < 1436299259 239802 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: Yes, what kind of question, please? < 1436299724 326262 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1436299895 602330 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1436300676 312750 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1436300820 266038 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1436301677 525225 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1436301771 761467 :gonad!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436301771 913023 :gonad!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1436301771 966622 :gonad!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436301964 106118 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1436302908 94357 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1436303071 167342 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436303299 585546 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436303857 651381 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the most secure RSA key possible, you should multiply together the two largest known primes. < 1436304048 197607 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia asserts that ancient Greek mathematicians discovered that 3 is a prime number. < 1436304097 344586 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of an interesting discovery, insofar as it sounds like barely a discovery at all. < 1436304200 843859 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1436304416 993817 :gonad!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1436304432 492627 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436304685 288765 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, sometimes, 2 is a prime number too! < 1436304843 792441 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1436305402 135506 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1436306498 639274 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436306500 697900 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1436306501 229244 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 072138Z 18008G15KT 15SM FEW030TCU SCT060 BKN160 BKN240 27/22 A2978 RMK TCU2SC2AC1CI2 SLP085 DENSITY ALT 1600FT < 1436306837 944697 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436307493 709735 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYVR < 1436307494 451968 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYVR 072200Z 22008G16KT 190V280 15SM OVC037 22/15 A2995 RMK FU7SC1 SLP143 DENSITY ALT 700FT < 1436307524 861175 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1436307606 448925 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, wonder what that 7SC1 after the smoke indicator means < 1436307655 785005 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436307905 255448 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan! < 1436307911 303982 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingboyhello! < 1436307916 559098 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrighellot! < 1436308039 446141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'doily < 1436308219 63695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: whoa whoa whoa, you're coming to california? < 1436308255 301389 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shellochaf. huh? < 1436308302 656973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :where else would you be [redacted] < 1436308415 957011 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really [redacted], I prefer to [expunged] while I *BLEEP* (of course, pineapples are moved beforehand). < 1436308523 698496 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:2850:2b68:3838:f4dc QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436308537 311942 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how many Californian pineapples there are < 1436308756 9942 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingboyo: FU7 is some kind of cloud occupying 7/8th of the sky. SC1 are stratocumulus sitting at 1/8th of the sky. < 1436308794 224627 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it was approximatively determined the other day that FU clouds are negative temperature fungot clouds hth) < 1436308822 44993 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@meta KOAK < 1436308822 364868 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 072153Z 27015KT 10SM FEW018 SCT180 22/14 A2997 RMK AO2 SLP146 T02170139 < 1436309082 642341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungal clouds < 1436309136 520835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1436309136 733794 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 072150Z 34006KT 9999 FEW020 BKN045 10/06 Q1002 RMK WIND 670FT 33007KT < 1436309139 147209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1436309157 68648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436309171 353453 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wfraatw/A WFRAATW is a well-founded recursive acronym akin to "WFRAATW". < 1436309196 677544 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that well-founded, exactly < 1436309210 23217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks pretty self-referential to me < 1436309241 272976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose the definition might be impredicative. < 1436309334 955896 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436309336 233021 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wecome/wecome in pece. < 1436309345 267140 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436309346 101940 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :urbandictionary/Urban Dictionary is an alternative, inferior wisdom database. < 1436310251 660872 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436310281 158697 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1436311141 862521 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1436311423 698366 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1436311580 65068 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist PART :#esoteric < 1436312272 264278 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1436312677 723573 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436312678 634432 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Å/Å _is_ a village in Norway, unless you're the BBC and don't understand things on top of letters. < 1436312706 949215 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436312819 162416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436312820 212456 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonvenon/Bonvenon al la internacia centro por la desegno kaj ellaso de esoteraj programlingvoj! Por pli da informado, vizitu la Viki-on: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Por la alia speco de esotero, iru al #esoteric sur irc.dal.net.) < 1436312825 289733 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no no < 1436312826 324451 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436312827 600185 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott/elliott wrote this learn DB, and wrote or improved many of the other commands in this bot. He probably has done other things? He is also tire. And a lystrosaur. < 1436312848 632755 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom < 1436312850 380193 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan Taneb oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan tswett shachaf int-e shachaf tswett shachaf tswett oerjan shachaf oerjan shachaf ais523 int-e int-e int-e int-e shachaf int-e mroman_ oren_ oren_ oerjan oerjan oerjan shachaf shacha < 1436312851 936517 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436312918 412613 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome BlueProtoman < 1436312919 704713 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06BlueProtoman: 13Welcome 04to 07the 08international 09hub 02for 06esoteric 13programming 04language 07design 08and 09deployment! 02For 06more 13information, 04check 07out 08our 09wiki: 02. 06(For 13the 04other 07kind 08of 09esoterica, 02try 06#esoteric 13on 04EFnet 07or 08DALnet.) < 1436312946 276086 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Thank you, but I've been here before. Been lurking the wiki for years, actually < 1436312958 299359 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dun dun dun ♪ < 1436313011 519950 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you created any esolangs? < 1436313052 913884 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but I implemented Brainfuck and a small extension thereof back in high school. < 1436313089 715478 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, how the hell does HackEgo do those colors? < 1436313191 464152 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: you can complain to the mirc developers for that. http://www.mirc.com/colors.html < 1436313206 579023 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I don't use MIRC, I use XChat < 1436313240 433286 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: which implements the same color codes... < 1436313266 892662 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Afaik mirc invented them. So that's where you should take the blame ;-) < 1436313285 211395 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not complaining. I just never seem to get them right! < 1436313292 384645 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(irssi implements them as well, but at least it's possible to disable them) < 1436313328 106402 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1436313495 619829 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1436314095 854045 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure the colors and formatting are in the rfc < 1436314448 967094 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, funges get weird fast < 1436314815 72564 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYZ < 1436314815 691286 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 080000Z 34010KT 15SM SCT016 BKN030 OVC100 21/18 A2985 RMK CU3SC3AC2 SLP106 DENSITY ALT 1400FT < 1436314852 537812 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloren. hot and humid in the Big T? < 1436314873 94844 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436314874 800740 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :selamlar/Ezoterik programlama dili tasarım ve dağıtım için uluslararası merkezi hoş geldiniz! Http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page: Daha fazla bilgi için, bizim wiki göz atın. (Esoterica diğer tür için, irc.dal.net üzerinde #esoteric deneyin.) < 1436314940 664452 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :̀welcome question: were all `welcomes human translated, or are some of them generated through our friend Google? < 1436314957 13245 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1436314980 822277 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`yokoso < 1436314981 354537 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: yokoso: not found < 1436314995 738778 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/welcome* < 1436314997 824135 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/welcome < 1436315026 206753 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wercome < 1436315027 848391 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​エソテリックプログラミング言語のディザインとデプロイメントの国際な場所へようこそ!詳しく、ウィキを見て: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page。(他のエソテリック、irc.dal.netの#esotericへ) < 1436315031 900863 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, < 1436315040 414448 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :そうですね < 1436316505 888378 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436316511 466938 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellu < 1436316519 530228 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: You on? < 1436316525 877676 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1436316535 875228 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a really cool language < 1436316536 876549 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1436316541 320711 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Zucchini < 1436316551 643336 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heard of it? < 1436316572 88788 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :From the name, it could be a good summer language. < 1436316616 218535 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1436316628 194525 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Plan 9 has thus improved in two ways not usually < 1436316628 270659 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seen together: it has become more secure < 1436316628 324739 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and easier to use." < 1436316650 461650 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like it's based on artificial neurons. < 1436316662 405016 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it is < 1436316673 447879 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be useful in neural networks with some deminimalization < 1436316683 242106 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFK < 1436316821 497403 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloppavilion[1]! < 1436316832 138565 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how dare you being lâchement AFK? < 1436316860 544036 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I happen to have written Zucchini. < 1436316886 807904 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh < 1436316887 40207 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool < 1436316959 933916 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :` help < 1436316960 600489 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1436316964 157847 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :``help < 1436316964 686641 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `help: not found < 1436316974 958182 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fortune < 1436316978 908330 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOFH excuse #101: \ \ Collapsed Backbone < 1436316983 955991 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :` fortune < 1436316984 524358 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1436317002 408497 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But really < 1436317015 386046 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`yes < 1436317016 32433 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y < 1436317038 111800 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A slightly higher-level and more legible Zucchini might actually be useful < 1436317042 973643 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *will* figure out a way to break HackEgo < 1436317051 281363 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`break < 1436317051 838101 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: break: not found < 1436317061 232129 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`destruct self < 1436317061 749453 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: destruct: not found < 1436317063 188768 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: legibility goes against generic esotericism hth < 1436317064 346098 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1436317066 433745 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" For example, someone could reset a machine and reboot it with a debugger instead of a kernel, allowing them to examine the contents of memory and find keys. We have not found a satisfactory solution to this problem " < 1436317068 41923 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's impossible < 1436317077 44129 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlueProtoman: good luck. < 1436317083 3592 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess full-HD encryption? < 1436317092 571439 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python -c while true: pass; < 1436317093 168261 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ File "", line 1 \ while true: pass; \ ^ \ IndentationError: unexpected indent < 1436317108 686063 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python -c while true:\tpass; < 1436317109 354749 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ File "", line 1 \ while true:\tpass; \ ^ \ IndentationError: unexpected indent < 1436317112 545051 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just encryption of factotum's files with a master password < 1436317127 394226 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`node < 1436317127 908197 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: node: not found < 1436317131 553221 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`nodejs < 1436317132 260221 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: nodejs: not found < 1436317136 479541 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: even though it's against esoterism, I'm discussing a language that's only semiesoteric < 1436317151 969050 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Semiesoterism allows legibility while still being really cool < 1436317168 253851 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python -c "while True: pass;" < 1436317168 828142 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ File "", line 1 \ "while True: pass;" \ ^ \ IndentationError: unexpected indent < 1436317172 238039 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grrrrr < 1436317174 988805 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean -m? < 1436317180 76300 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, -c < 1436317180 695381 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was -m that does that < 1436317185 228934 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hu < 1436317186 201073 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1436317187 134727 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1436317196 13309 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python -c "while True: pass" < 1436317196 624026 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ File "", line 1 \ "while True: pass" \ ^ \ IndentationError: unexpected indent < 1436317197 788008 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting fact: my job involves working in two languages that don't exist outside the company < 1436317213 194981 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coooooool < 1436317218 216223 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are they called? < 1436317223 680879 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is that a seeeeeeeeeecret? < 1436317225 184379 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does your company need to reinvent the wheel? < 1436317232 454821 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agreed < 1436317234 4692 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it some esoteric domain? < 1436317238 291949 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So to speak) < 1436317238 927983 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you could define a zucchini derivative. perhaps call it “courgette”. < 1436317251 306253 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was looking for a name :) < 1436317270 278598 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wouldn't have any of the syntax or semantics < 1436317275 378186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ̀welcome question: were all `welcomes human translated, or are some of them generated through our friend Google? <-- pretty sure google had a hand in some < 1436317293 225029 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :` :(){ :|:& };: < 1436317293 723909 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1436317296 930976 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`:(){ :|:& };: < 1436317297 927046 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: :(){: not found < 1436317299 662451 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it'd have the same concept < 1436317309 398737 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sh :(){ :|:& };: < 1436317310 77125 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh: 0: Can't open :(){ :|:& };: < 1436317326 90793 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What's a courgette again? < 1436317343 860440 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :another name for a zucchini. it's the same thing. < 1436317351 491914 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1436317357 434811 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see what you did there ;P < 1436317369 208510 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw it because it's obvious :P < 1436317376 841286 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`shutdown < 1436317377 409044 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: shutdown: not found < 1436317381 727097 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`poweroff < 1436317382 172704 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One is a secret C++ derivative, the other is called Salmon < 1436317382 239980 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: poweroff: not found < 1436317394 623439 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kewlzez < 1436317410 747947 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : `apt-get < 1436317413 218104 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of my goals in life: < 1436317418 995457 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Create the most amazing language ever < 1436317422 273272 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And name it "Dildo" < 1436317423 804925 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /usr/bin/cat < 1436317424 381284 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /usr/bin/cat: No such file or directory < 1436317436 496929 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sessions don't carry < 1436317442 776521 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /bin/cat < 1436317443 699683 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ELF............>.....'@.....@.................@.8. .@.........@.......@.@.....@.@................................8......8@.....8@............................................@.......@................... ..................`.....`................... .................`.....`............................ < 1436317444 622426 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cod5.org/archive/s/salmon.html < 1436317448 803861 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tee hee < 1436317467 745396 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you can't create the most amazing language ever. in that position resides Feather. < 1436317476 239991 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right < 1436317476 661288 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1436317478 848248 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cod5.org/archive/s/salmon.html < 1436317483 335838 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that salmon, oren < 1436317494 719749 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is that just a coincidence < 1436317497 383095 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1436317501 181987 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gcc < 1436317501 963384 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc: fatal error: no input files \ compilation terminated. < 1436317507 378918 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1436317510 607105 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray < 1436317513 406872 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GCC works < 1436317519 23489 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ghc < 1436317520 57053 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ghc: not found < 1436317522 476043 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /bin/python < 1436317523 7913 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /bin/python: No such file or directory < 1436317523 632161 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1436317528 789027 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /usr/bin/python < 1436317529 295608 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ELF............>.....L.....@....... < 1436317542 442270 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /usr/bin/gcc < 1436317543 110430 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ELF............>.....[@.....@................@.8..@.........@.......@.@.....@.@........................................@......@............................................@.......@.....ܶ.....ܶ....... ...................h......h.....(......h+........ ................h.....h............................ < 1436317548 538028 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`more < 1436317549 108646 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: more [options] file... \ \ Options: \ -d display help instead of ring bell \ -f count logical, rather than screen lines \ -l suppress pause after form feed \ -p suppress scroll, clean screen and disblay text \ -c suppress scroll, display text and clean line ends \ -u suppress underlining < 1436317555 998845 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`more /usr/bin/gcc < 1436317556 595380 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ ******** /usr/bin/gcc: Not a text file ******** < 1436317567 806335 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Yeas. that is the website that the inventor of salmon set up < 1436317582 914062 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`more /etc/passwd < 1436317583 120089 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kewlzez < 1436317583 523105 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/etc/passwd: No such file or directory < 1436317588 101310 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!$ < 1436317598 412974 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`more ~/.bashrc < 1436317599 59175 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​~/.bashrc: No such file or directory < 1436317603 690614 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls ~ < 1436317604 447416 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access ~: No such file or directory < 1436317610 680367 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pwd < 1436317611 203049 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1436317615 717663 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cd .. < 1436317616 402416 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: cd: not found < 1436317628 639314 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`man < 1436317629 319318 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man: can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/manpath.config < 1436317652 74900 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e "fork while fork" & < 1436317655 297515 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax error at -e line 1, at EOF \ Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors. < 1436317753 165842 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO < 1436317763 521303 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To make courgette < 1436317772 488238 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll need to understand Zucchini < 1436317775 219172 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I don't < 1436317784 865628 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mouah ah ah. < 1436317794 807283 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python -c "import os; while True: os.fork();" < 1436317795 391010 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ File "", line 1 \ "import os; while True: os.fork();" \ ^ \ IndentationError: unexpected indent < 1436317821 901634 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`clisp < 1436317822 513177 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: clisp: not found < 1436317828 216984 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: don't worry. this was the most hastily and confusingly written article about an esolang I created. < 1436317837 508538 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparentl < 1436317838 619862 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :y < 1436317875 106759 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :` `perl -e "fork while fork" &` < 1436317875 606610 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1436317888 133813 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :``perl -e "fork while fork" &` < 1436317888 669992 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `perl: not found < 1436317892 793059 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :` perl -e "fork while fork" & < 1436317893 282488 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1436317897 582271 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e "fork while fork" & < 1436317898 74901 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax error at -e line 1, at EOF \ Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors. < 1436317904 697986 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e "fork while fork" & < 1436317905 202371 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax error at -e line 1, at EOF \ Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors. < 1436317906 885647 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e "fork while fork" & \ < 1436317907 414453 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax error at -e line 1, at EOF \ Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors. < 1436317908 904191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come on. < 1436317933 365492 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny, your sister told me the same thing < 1436317941 172385 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1436317957 507212 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bomb() { < 1436317957 612813 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : bomb | bomb & < 1436317957 666601 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :}; < 1436317957 666682 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bomb < 1436317959 269740 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bomb(): not found < 1436317979 403404 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1436317980 42676 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 0 \ 113500 \ a.o \ a.out \ argv.py \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ blah \ blah \ blah \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dc \ dog \ emoticons \ error.log \ etc \ factor \ faith \ fu \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ hi \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ letersort \ lib \ MaFV \ paste \ people.py \ pref \ prefs \ py.py \ quines \ quotes \ < 1436318017 86200 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo #include int main(void) { while(1) fork();} > oops.c < 1436318017 849625 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include int main(void) { while(1) fork();} > oops.c < 1436318035 531874 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat oops.c < 1436318036 98147 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: oops.c: No such file or directory < 1436318038 549477 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1436318039 203628 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 0 \ 113500 \ a.o \ a.out \ argv.py \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ blah \ blah \ blah \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dc \ dog \ emoticons \ error.log \ etc \ factor \ faith \ fu \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ hi \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ letersort \ lib \ MaFV \ paste \ people.py \ pref \ prefs \ py.py \ quines \ quotes \ < 1436318065 315500 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the three blahs are still there. < 1436318095 785956 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo #include \ int main(void) { while(1) fork();} > oops.c < 1436318096 367532 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include \ int main(void) { while(1) fork();} > oops.c < 1436318104 684956 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1436318105 453911 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-( \ 0 \ 113500 \ a.o \ a.out \ argv.py \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ blah \ blah \ blah \ canary \ cat \ Complaints \ :-D \ dc \ dog \ emoticons \ error.log \ etc \ factor \ faith \ fu \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ hi \ hours \ ibin \ index.html?dl=1812 \ interps \ le \ letersort \ lib \ MaFV \ paste \ people.py \ pref \ prefs \ py.py \ quines \ quotes \ < 1436318113 439672 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./a.out < 1436318122 460034 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you tried rmdir /? < 1436318129 991481 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or whatever the command is? < 1436318136 583946 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls blah* < 1436318137 309442 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah \ blah \ blah < 1436318141 54141 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Ten bucks says it's sudo-protected < 1436318143 894193 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436318145 79359 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -a blah* < 1436318145 673945 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah \ blah \ blah < 1436318147 138509 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm -rf / < 1436318147 654146 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `rm --help' for more information. < 1436318156 653737 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm -rf * < 1436318157 214970 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `rm --help' for more information. < 1436318161 979308 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sudo rm -rf * < 1436318162 512409 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: sudo: not found < 1436318166 473226 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`su rm -rf * < 1436318167 804533 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :su: Cannot determine your user name. < 1436318180 23403 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please stop. This is unpleasant. < 1436318180 845198 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -h blah * < 1436318181 706625 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try listing it in private instead. < 1436318190 883114 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -h blah* < 1436318191 524870 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah \ blah \ blah < 1436318193 852012 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, okay, fine, I'll stop < 1436318209 832962 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -b blah* < 1436318210 626098 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah \ blah\ \\\ blah < 1436318274 972924 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls blah* | od < 1436318275 637790 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000 066142 064141 061012 060554 020150 020134 066142 064141 \ 0000020 000012 \ 0000021 < 1436318295 502672 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls blah* | od -t x1 < 1436318296 171620 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000 62 6c 61 68 0a 62 6c 61 68 20 5c 20 62 6c 61 68 \ 0000020 0a \ 0000021 < 1436318305 710536 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls blah* | od -t c < 1436318306 382818 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000 b l a h \n b l a h \ b l a h \ 0000020 \n \ 0000021 < 1436318329 914310 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo blah* | od -t c < 1436318330 495373 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000 b l a h b l a h \ b l a h \ 0000020 \n \ 0000021 < 1436318365 371871 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: ENGLACIATED CHICKEN < 1436318427 27397 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo blah* | od -t o1 < 1436318427 581355 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000 142 154 141 150 040 142 154 141 150 040 134 040 142 154 141 150 \ 0000020 012 \ 0000021 < 1436318462 889783 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OHHHHH < 1436318497 921277 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls 'blah / blah' < 1436318498 743678 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access blah / blah: No such file or directory < 1436318504 141317 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls 'blah \ blah' < 1436318504 879504 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah \ blah < 1436318550 740312 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a file named ``blah'' and a file named ``blah \ blah'' < 1436318580 705081 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` touch 'blah \ blah \ blah' < 1436318583 541090 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436318598 715599 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls b* < 1436318599 604789 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access b*: No such file or directory < 1436318606 787231 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bl* < 1436318607 660823 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah \ blah \ blah \ blah \ blah \ blah < 1436318692 214022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Please stop. This is unpleasant. <-- no it's disturbingly fascinating hth < 1436318717 277666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you sure that's a no? < 1436318731 268212 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1436318760 131339 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat emoticons/gaaan < 1436318760 792079 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ガ~(゚ロ゚;)~ン < 1436319046 349960 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mad < 1436319047 564704 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: mad: not found < 1436319053 628862 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom mad < 1436319054 580994 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :madness/madness lies thataway. < 1436320644 838677 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1436320689 276298 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@99-148-190-17.lightspeed.renonv.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436320807 160728 :BlueProtoman!~BlueProto@cpe-68-173-27-20.nyc.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436321260 79551 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1436321568 879222 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm ... confused < 1436321584 901296 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Could not find The Game Of Life CD-ROM registry entry. Please re-install." < 1436321598 518611 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A... registry entry to locate the CD drive that it was installed from? < 1436321625 289872 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neural Networks FTW < 1436321645 193080 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436322321 814647 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1436322435 698392 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone want to help me with Courgette? < 1436322444 614247 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude maybe? < 1436322462 566469 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright < 1436322499 908636 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry :P < 1436322513 121039 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're just one of the few people that I recognize who is online < 1436322536 538178 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be headed to bed soon, but what is this Courgette? < 1436322572 741714 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like Zucchini < 1436322576 298807 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But easier to read < 1436322585 185209 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And more powerful < 1436322588 110164 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And fun to write < 1436322633 184719 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might be cool. < 1436322641 989671 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1436322647 9065 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't read into the details of Zucchini much yet. < 1436322649 845804 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's designed for neural networks < 1436322666 473150 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's another esolang designed for neural net related stuff if you're interested. < 1436322675 399411 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1436322677 125575 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where? < 1436322704 915009 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Wittgen < 1436322705 771288 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436322722 393099 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I through out zucchini's syntax so it'll be possible to write < 1436322726 69363 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than being made to implement neural networks, it's made to be implemented by neural networks. < 1436322737 743091 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm heavily modifying the semantics < 1436322755 242505 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that I think about it, it isn't really a derivative so much as a similar idea < 1436322756 63374 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1436322767 999076 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it could be good for adding higher level structures. < 1436322793 704441 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also Pure Data, which I was thinking of using to make a neural network system. < 1436322803 167856 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooh < 1436322804 466675 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coool < 1436322814 89848 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not made for them, but it's a data flow language with a graphical editor. < 1436322819 685888 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1436322824 896703 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data flow language? < 1436322868 548274 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's meant to simulate analog circuits. < 1436322877 497090 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1436322880 801969 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting < 1436322886 782098 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it processes data in batches, which flow through wires. < 1436322889 33575 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very meta < 1436322998 810721 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I make Courgette be stored in XML? < 1436323008 779180 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't sound bad. < 1436323017 8021 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd be cool I guess < 1436323027 509463 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zucchini actually seems like a dataflow language for the most part. < 1436323049 718347 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might want to use that as the basis of the neural network system I want to make in PD. < 1436323051 983069 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting < 1436324413 448797 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess Wittgen is a little bit interesting. < 1436325395 360059 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436325588 153593 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :prolog makes a lot more sense now than it did when i was 15 < 1436325734 358697 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436326924 758834 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1436327916 438212 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really like XML much though < 1436327959 473109 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For markup like HTML it can do (and has a few advantages over HTML, such as the /> syntax), both for most thing probably not as good < 1436328092 873510 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are other formats such as JSON, RELOAD, ARF, RDF, etc. For directed graphs RDF could do < 1436328221 260445 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There is also SQL) < 1436329025 553266 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436329206 233481 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436329297 367480 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1436329931 975508 :password2_!~password@197.76.130.238 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436330045 396834 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436330047 729679 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Ø/Ø escaped due to a sensitive case bug < 1436330067 559340 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436330068 449383 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd/hagb4rd is one spacey fellow. Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace. < 1436330082 544561 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436330083 474751 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph/His Master's Phonetic Hmph < 1436330246 597939 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436330778 762781 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436330974 12321 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436331026 161294 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1436331330 185687 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436332293 793239 :password2_!~password@197.76.130.238 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436332814 517957 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436333080 325134 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1436333370 726490 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436333850 190966 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436333851 484759 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :procrastination/The Procrastination is destined to rule the world... right after watching this last funny cat clip on youtube. < 1436333891 992529 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits wisdom/*pumpkin < 1436333893 899547 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott oerjan < 1436333940 862449 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? suspects < 1436333941 776884 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :suspects? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1436334098 300660 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1436334246 791040 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1436334388 48465 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1436334389 468491 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1436334806 221770 :myndzi\!myndzi@cpe-75-177-176-249.nc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436334997 363079 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436335487 895724 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436335716 671163 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera NICK :izaber < 1436335720 334827 :izaber!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera NICK :izabera < 1436335859 886221 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@99-148-190-17.lightspeed.renonv.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436336212 218893 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436336230 879947 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436336510 869570 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436338415 418199 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436338934 801175 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Procrasticy is like democracy except that nobody is ever going to vote. < 1436339104 373447 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Such as "What data is being transmitted" and wether it has something to do with mroman.ch/lang.html (they stalked my webpage apparentely) < 1436339704 386178 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: I forgot what your response is replying to, sorry < 1436339898 770761 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436340157 149302 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1436340174 763944 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436340498 440103 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1436340515 18667 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: iana questions < 1436341603 990838 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1436341700 219965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1436342543 660601 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1436343342 360349 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1436343916 68235 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436345175 749801 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The idea of the protocol is roughly that a client connects, selects the language and language options, transmits the program and then switches to streaming stdin to the server < 1436345182 725149 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :while receiving stdout (stream) from the server < 1436345194 529851 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus allowing interactive programs to run as well < 1436346321 971294 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1436346388 726239 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:351b:73cc:224e:dcc1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436346433 230457 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436346721 448007 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436346725 268188 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1436346854 753066 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :These clothing guidelines for girl at school discussions are weird... < 1436346858 268640 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*girls < 1436346879 213011 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should base those on studies < 1436346894 123907 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a.) find studies that states that girls in sexy clothing distract guys < 1436346917 969127 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b.) if so, find studies that state that it's either a mostly biological reaction that can't really be helped reasonably < 1436346936 837244 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although some studies suggest that when guys see good looking girls their performance actually increases somewhat < 1436346971 689744 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :... or that you can retrain boys to not get distracted < 1436346996 539600 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then we need to decide if retraining boys not to look at girls in sexy clothing actually makes sense < 1436347045 746731 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and once we have those results we also need to decide if that is enough justification for clothing guidelines at schools < 1436347135 133957 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why it is done at the school level < 1436347162 637167 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :If clothing is that distracting why is it not as distracting to, eg, shopkeepers, bank people, etc < 1436347210 671674 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is not distracting to them, when it did it stop? Do boys upon graduation from high school suddenly become immune to something that apparently was previously crippling? < 1436347575 890767 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1436347597 685571 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are at least out of puberty once they leave school < 1436347693 701811 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: bank people already wear something close to uniforms with a few choices, they're definitely not allowed to wear sexy clothes < 1436347709 31579 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, I mean what if they get distracted by their customers < 1436347722 834721 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that's not something you can control so easily < 1436347736 354299 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, there are laws against, eg, walking into a bank naked < 1436347759 455487 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: well sure, but they can't be as specific as how much you can control what to wear for work or school < 1436347781 331833 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :people have to be able to walk into a bank and do other things without having to change cloths < 1436347852 359458 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I think a bank worker (or a doctor even more) already has to be somewhat resistant to these kinds of distractions, because they sometimes have to find out about disturbing parts of the personal lives of clients. < 1436347867 24916 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and while everyone has to go to school, not everyone has to work in a bank. < 1436347889 308626 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the few people that are really distracted can take a different job. < 1436347910 893055 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is much more true for doctors than for bank workers of course. < 1436347945 209382 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and if you're distracted by sexy clothes, you can probably still work as a bank clerk that meets clients only by telephone < 1436347996 757455 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :appearences influence others < 1436348025 804880 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also the fact that a bank clerk is working supervised by a security guard and usually by other workers, whereas schoolboys aren't always supervised. < 1436348030 732 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :studies have clearly shown that < 1436348037 994793 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :being good looking has a lot of advantages < 1436348046 24371 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :more favors, more trust etc. < 1436348087 683578 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can manipulate other people easier < 1436348214 911924 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly < 1436348517 569080 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436348826 675265 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1436349888 348345 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1436351166 786665 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436351204 502580 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436351368 188048 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1436351626 626827 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:351b:73cc:224e:dcc1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436351684 625222 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:288f:ce4f:1468:65b3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436352319 36946 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1436352963 354436 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436353238 292646 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436354330 218234 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: ANTICHOLINERGIC CHICKEN < 1436354623 587725 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1436354835 588255 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436355247 877331 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:288f:ce4f:1468:65b3 QUIT :Quit: Left < 1436356964 558668 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1436357388 871278 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1436358708 883042 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Are you good looking? < 1436358709 201500 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: rm -fr and unzip the file i was editing < 1436358732 734732 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: Can't remove France. < 1436358843 815880 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: maybe you're rich? < 1436358843 922376 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: please read the srfi-7 document again. annoying stuff. < 1436358861 731091 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scheme Revised Final...? < 1436358948 186348 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scheme Request For Implementation < 1436358949 33282 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1436359288 591371 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436360226 550851 :ppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436360233 559074 :ppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1436360234 558556 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436360258 131399 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1436360272 563330 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1436360345 958809 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1436360394 721788 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436361465 240957 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:30e9:25f5:71d5:8989 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436362334 757443 :pikhq!~pikhq@2001:470:c47a:1:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1436362516 568031 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1436362753 511870 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're a bit like RFCs for Scheme stuff. < 1436363028 455388 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436363743 402753 :relrod_!~relrod@104.131.193.156 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436363743 520136 :relrod_!~relrod@104.131.193.156 QUIT :Changing host < 1436363743 574172 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod JOIN :#esoteric < 1436363882 461827 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1436364120 159813 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod NICK :relrod < 1436365409 654813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436366131 549071 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436366270 97826 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436366387 449148 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1436366754 434979 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1436367170 447320 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1436368954 642177 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1436369191 266299 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436369672 822999 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436370154 779331 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1436370188 115513 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436370442 105476 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436370635 401348 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436370924 12881 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436372828 483795 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436372838 979382 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just had a dream where I was a fairly successful pickpocket < 1436372854 310120 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi MDude. Just letting you know I'm on < 1436372869 999875 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright < 1436372878 464642 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's up? < 1436372892 273435 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to think of a good name for my Neural Net language... < 1436372900 521466 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using N as a working title < 1436372907 563418 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My fallback is N# < 1436372989 944901 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1436372998 468537 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm changing the working title to N# because it's better < 1436373007 64539 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that might not be the final name < 1436373012 528267 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone have any ideas? < 1436373309 185535 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1436373427 417914 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :On second thought, I'm changing it to N < 1436373438 636392 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :N# will be a second language with more featues < 1436373441 629923 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*features < 1436373962 30721 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:30e9:25f5:71d5:8989 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436374019 26925 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:c9f6:2aa7:1e19:92cd JOIN :#esoteric < 1436374086 164710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 993 < 1436374086 748300 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 993: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti < 1436374228 584293 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: If you want to follow the main sequence, it would be N, then N++, then two competitive languages N# and O. < 1436374242 795131 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1436374243 7743 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rbxyisgfxtomdkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1436374244 330699 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably < 1436374251 519019 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, by that definition I can't make O :P < 1436374253 644159 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1436374260 546679 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is D competing with C#? < 1436374264 915940 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't know that < 1436374265 982010 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also < 1436374268 139404 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, chronologically speaking, anyway. < 1436374269 206021 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Objective-N < 1436374276 864061 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1436374403 86478 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm going to make N, N++ (maybe), and N# < 1436374412 161804 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again < 1436374417 836573 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THere was never an F or F++ < 1436374522 468026 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's F# < 1436374526 664059 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FIZZIE < 1436374529 389386 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU LIED TO ME < 1436374536 700511 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :D:< < 1436374537 735495 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1436374578 729848 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I give N networking support (socketry), or should I save that for N# or N++ or something? < 1436374620 853994 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :N# will definitely support GUIs < 1436374723 644734 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think fizzie? I suppose I should trust some arbitrary IRCer's opinion :P :P :P < 1436374759 163803 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436374815 358189 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, by way of analogy, N and N++ should not have networking in the standard library, but each of them should have low-level OS-specific networking facilities, and lots of third-party portable stuff on top; and N# should have networking in the standard library. < 1436374856 940120 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yes < 1436374864 392593 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1436374867 742341 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also you should probably wait about 11 years after N to release N++, and then maybe 17 years more for N#. < 1436374874 795667 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not < 1436374908 16482 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :N, N++, and N# are going to be posted around the same time, though implementations may be separated by months or even years. < 1436374911 796034 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't wait 17 years < 1436374922 694071 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's longer than I've been alive! :P < 1436374928 456078 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, there is a F, it's just not related to F#. < 1436374938 315187 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's a Fortrany thing.) < 1436375015 612226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there were programming languages (at least if your definitions are flexible enough, and you're willing to look at things niche enough) for all single letters A through Z. < 1436375026 242816 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1436375206 998614 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The syntax is kind of weird < 1436375213 147426 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To declare a node that does nothing < 1436375216 373221 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do: < 1436375226 651369 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :node():{} < 1436375231 268136 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The parenthesis are optional < 1436375232 259211 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1436375236 992496 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1436375237 220265 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I forgot the semicolon) < 1436375495 989667 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I make N use unicode for output? < 1436375499 409953 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or ascii? < 1436375507 269853 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on how consoles work nowadays < 1436375686 439975 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clear < 1436375691 228464 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHoops < 1436375695 504228 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1436375710 793039 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I think this is going to be really cool < 1436375931 326812 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tdY8oin0nVwhbrKWGFBm3tNvh_iGxElzdMKGG8GZKn4/edit?usp=sharing < 1436375942 212162 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the document where I am preparing it < 1436376013 203663 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anyone wants to read and/or comment on it. < 1436376413 96976 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436376927 834186 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1436376933 293407 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436377315 53263 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07N14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43433 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+363) 10Created Page < 1436377337 524660 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07N14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43434&oldid=43433 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+0) 10Moved stub < 1436377603 14648 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436377778 76381 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436377784 1748 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436378072 121302 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436378131 717151 :password2!~password@197.76.143.96 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436378850 977050 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436379297 773337 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1436380459 428994 :password2!~password@197.76.143.96 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436381036 934554 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436381293 63626 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436381372 140539 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: whoa whoa whoa < 1436381385 863290 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realize you were back. < 1436381491 8026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you ever hear about the revert issue? < 1436381627 935011 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :}{FISH} < 1436382425 926309 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz NICK :Frooxius < 1436382659 212823 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-1-244.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436382669 72359 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-1-244.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1436382839 104395 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436382840 225520 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fternooner/fternooner (Danish »fternooner«, Norwegian «ttermiddag», Swedish ”ftermiddag”) is a screamingly delicious pastry. < 1436384311 195628 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436384599 93132 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1436385475 173503 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436385938 237096 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436385941 320340 :}{FISH}!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :GeoDude < 1436386143 359730 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1436386790 689385 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436386938 41293 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYVR < 1436386938 672600 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYVR 082000Z 22007KT 190V280 15SM SKC 21/16 A2984 RMK FU7 SLP106 DENSITY ALT 800FT < 1436386961 400103 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle PRIVMSG #esoteric :`shmisdom < 1436386961 943240 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: shmisdom: not found < 1436386971 745602 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this smoke just is not going anywhere < 1436387209 692353 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:c9f6:2aa7:1e19:92cd QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436387248 718044 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:883f:a1fe:7818:a366 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436387305 580946 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:883f:a1fe:7818:a366 QUIT :Client Quit < 1436387328 676376 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:883f:a1fe:7818:a366 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436388016 428692 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1436388521 646315 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436388637 799672 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1436388763 722017 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do people remember to eat < 1436388786 546328 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:883f:a1fe:7818:a366 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually their stomach notifies them. < 1436388787 582266 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1436388822 86422 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thisbe, by that point I normally struggle to prepare food < 1436388865 804050 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-1-244.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :eat raw food < 1436388871 942100 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:883f:a1fe:7818:a366 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jeez, that's not good. Are you taking any medication? < 1436388888 741003 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1436388906 395838 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:883f:a1fe:7818:a366 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was taking some weird prescriptions at some point and it stopped my apetite, that's why I was asking. < 1436388922 872517 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:883f:a1fe:7818:a366 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe set an alarm to remind yourself to eat three times a day at minimum? < 1436388937 211071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436388939 99898 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngram model/An ngram model is just a Markov model with a sliding window state < 1436388949 472040 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thisbe, that might work < 1436389584 125518 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436390250 767395 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436390500 269469 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1436390697 488875 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436390828 658095 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436390844 982193 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to elliot ? < 1436390849 723281 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436390872 884784 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I heard, but didn't manage to actually fix it. And I'm not all that "back". < 1436390895 126438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It should be easy to fix, if I remember the issue correctly. < 1436390940 224903 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I didn't see any obvious canary.orig directories in the repository, which is something that someone said to me about it. < 1436390947 848952 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I will try to have a look at time T. < 1436390949 206540 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bitbucket.org/GregorR/hackbot/src/tip/multibot_cmds/lib/revert has find "$HACKENV" -name '*.orig' -exec rm -f '{}' \; < 1436390960 798904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which searches .hg, which is where the canary.orig directory is hiding. < 1436390970 773609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The right thing to do is probably to exclude .hg < 1436390983 789162 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. That sounds plausible. < 1436391017 194224 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the find for, though? Clearing up some visible .orig files left by the hg revert in elsewhere than .hg? < 1436391042 656784 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I saw an canary.orig in .hg, but it seemed to belong there.) < 1436391043 538641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -ld .hg/store/data/canary.orig < 1436391044 252370 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drwxr-xr-x 2 5000 0 4096 Jun 9 01:43 .hg/store/data/canary.orig < 1436391059 618122 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I assume that's what it's for. < 1436391071 249782 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, if we had some actual .orig files, it would mess them up. < 1436391102 530219 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway we can't get rid of canary.orig in .hg/. It's part of history. < 1436391120 710023 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436391808 126955 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1436391814 432337 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436391933 253709 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1436392023 732474 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436392027 667719 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436392343 926570 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1436392344 236526 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 082100Z 20011KT 15SM FEW240 23/14 A3001 RMK CI2 SLP161 DENSITY ALT 900FT < 1436392350 525720 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :liars. < 1436392365 939880 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436392368 354843 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1436392369 796881 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should write a strongly worded letter to Environnement Canada. they LIE! < 1436392374 321948 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloppaviion1! < 1436392381 957944 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that. < 1436392393 529664 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been writing that zucchini semiderivative < 1436392398 831733 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't. I'm sweating like a sweaty fungot. < 1436392399 246868 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: x documentation really is horrid internally, so the interpreter can do that, assuming the context determines that the fnord < 1436392400 221094 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of, y'know, working. < 1436392408 58082 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :D < 1436392425 847986 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm calling it N < 1436392432 401467 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll also make N# and MAYBE N++ < 1436392441 154040 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want to see what I have so far? < 1436392460 539514 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily? < 1436392531 645722 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily < 1436392535 597802 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry. not at my peak mental capacity until I cool down quite a bit. < 1436392536 116463 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still there? < 1436392540 301160 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :always there. < 1436392540 819968 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1436392541 516867 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1436392555 65842 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realized I spelled my name wrong XD < 1436392556 809701 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you put it on the intertubes yet? < 1436392562 473730 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1436392567 297324 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a google doc for the moment < 1436392575 179957 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to save the link < 1436392575 839783 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tdY8oin0nVwhbrKWGFBm3tNvh_iGxElzdMKGG8GZKn4/edit?usp=sharing < 1436392583 924357 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no wrong name here in this fine chännel. only six-letter names are wrong. < 1436392588 605985 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For when you're cooer < 1436392590 981963 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cooler < 1436392623 871135 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anonymous Kraken xD < 1436392680 581130 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not anonymous, and I'm not a kraken last time I checked. < 1436392759 230950 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you viewing the doc? < 1436392799 332396 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so, I'm seeing you as anonymous kraken < 1436392805 353636 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise, it's someone else < 1436392885 520537 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so I'm an anonymous kraken after all. who would've guessed. < 1436392890 676214 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the doc is being seen by me. < 1436392926 394723 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1436392934 104832 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going to refresh and fix my name < 1436392945 489527 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't try to tell me anything for about 15 seconds < 1436392948 212959 :hppaviion1!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1436392963 843039 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppaviion1 hello! I'm telling you things! < 1436392963 947550 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1436392966 975497 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436392968 154033 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back < 1436392995 880026 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should throw the whole thing on esolangs, add in a hello world and a cat, and call it a day. < 1436393008 340983 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should < 1436393021 65987 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think this could be useful in cognitive science or something < 1436393025 666912 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1436393031 669864 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I _could_ < 1436393035 563416 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not _should_ < 1436393057 812723 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I created a page with a link to the doc < 1436393218 668477 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to make Esolangs that might actually be useful to someone, somewhere, someday < 1436393224 510863 :myndzi\!myndzi@cpe-75-177-176-249.nc.res.rr.com QUIT : < 1436393354 106913 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I don't like Turing Tarpits < 1436393407 158930 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I do like befunge < 1436393958 135670 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07TrivialBrainfuckSubstitution14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43435&oldid=41110 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+87) 10Fixed "infinitely many." There are only 2.3736676e+48 assuming unicode < 1436393987 576226 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say, 5 is a close enough approximation to infinity. < 1436394016 916202 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did the math < 1436394023 621856 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :With google < 1436394031 296291 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5. < 1436394104 455251 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], bear in mind that there is no limit on the length on the strings < 1436394118 542607 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07TrivialBrainfuckSubstitution14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43436&oldid=43435 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+3) 102.3736676e+48-3, as two were listed and brainfuck itself doesn't count. < 1436394128 357902 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right < 1436394133 200668 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION facepalms < 1436394201 855383 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07TrivialBrainfuckSubstitution14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43437&oldid=43436 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+118) 10Infinity possiblility < 1436394207 637396 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: There < 1436394209 198893 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixed it < 1436394540 593341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1436394910 420053 :atrapa!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1436394936 742932 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1436394947 192710 :atrapa!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado NICK :atrapado < 1436395810 328547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i am predicting a good opportunity for belkar to die, probably heroically < 1436395840 961193 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. you predict ootsdeaths? < 1436395850 610067 :gabriel1!~gabriel@201.242.35.182 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436395871 538830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well his death has already been predicted by the oracle, i'm just saying now would be an appropriate time < 1436395888 813139 :gabriel1!~gabriel@201.242.35.182 PART :#esoteric < 1436395952 793088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with some luck he might even avoid going to hell < 1436395979 621332 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, where would he fit in otherwise... < 1436396041 657113 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cqmcyvoecmlsgrle QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436396050 299165 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tsnryjsmhiwmorit JOIN :#esoteric < 1436396050 600577 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tsnryjsmhiwmorit QUIT :Changing host < 1436396050 654487 :fowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth JOIN :#esoteric < 1436396050 654530 :fowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth QUIT :Changing host < 1436396050 654548 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tsnryjsmhiwmorit JOIN :#esoteric < 1436396112 890307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :badly working cloak: how to get banned 3 times as fast for connection problems < 1436396157 593852 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoa whoa whoa < 1436396181 851771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not saying he's over the limit yet. although i have not looked at the end of the logs. < 1436396604 888658 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436397378 576213 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436397680 428301 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436397952 771373 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436398139 121757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb Thisbe, by that point I normally struggle to prepare food <-- hm a hunch: take a small snack before you start preparing. < 1436398139 265799 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1436398426 656558 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1436398549 267553 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tonight is a sad night. I'm out of regular paprika. < 1436398606 404223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask b_jonas to send some < 1436398737 644372 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: b_jhellonas! I could do with some csemege and édesmenes, please. < 1436398745 792923 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/men/nem/ < 1436398871 96986 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1436398934 339754 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist PART :#esoteric < 1436399322 761695 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1436399328 311262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait paprika in english is a powder? < 1436399509 173439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it in norwegian? < 1436399512 100525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Paprika ( Capsicum annuum ) is ein big grown-up, mild variation of chili modify a pair that are used as vegetables and garnishes in cooking." < 1436399515 8871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fruit < 1436399525 495595 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bell pepper? < 1436399528 426410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka ... yes < 1436399544 499264 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436399587 7252 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bell peppers are the scow of vegetables < 1436399602 532271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats shachaf -----### < 1436399610 396343 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1436399617 182653 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was d. not swatworthy < 1436399627 724788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DISAGREE < 1436399634 145937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bell peppers are the worst vegetables ever invented < 1436399638 705003 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they make me want to vomit < 1436399644 814967 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uncooked or cooked < 1436399649 796665 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrible flavor, terrible texture < 1436399653 68956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you probably have a family curse < 1436399661 686931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my family tends to like them < 1436399704 223598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see, you must have the rare PPR-SCOW mutation < 1436399742 273749 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like peppers have the PPR-SCOW mutation < 1436399751 394622 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember shachaf deeply despising bell peppers. < 1436399765 811238 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rings boily and shachaf < 1436399772 211641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do have a recessive mutation, said wikipedia. < 1436399772 423977 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: paprika in English and French refer to the powder thing. < 1436399781 367645 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|f`hello`|f < 1436399810 766245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: logically then you should prefer chewing raw jalapeños hth < 1436399824 859342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i don't mind the capsaicin so much < 1436399825 549226 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: also, en:pepper can mean fr:poivre, fr:poivron and fr:piment. < 1436399831 269050 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't like any pepper flavor < 1436399841 351034 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm growing jalapeños on my balcony. can't wait to try them! < 1436399849 522782 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: argh no idea what those mean < 1436399857 88143 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm growing old on my balcony :'( < 1436399870 254754 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachag < 1436399871 47427 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachag? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1436399873 613243 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1436399876 47578 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. < 1436399893 255099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append He hates bell peppers with a passion. < 1436399895 343960 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't open wisdom/he: No such file or directory. \ Learned 'he': hates bell peppers with a passion. < 1436399895 397831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1436399896 80725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me that i don't like celery either < 1436399896 968418 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: fr:poivre is the black powder commonly paired with salt, in shakers on a table. fr:poivron is strictly bell pepper. < 1436399906 118538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append shachaf He hates bell peppers with a passion. < 1436399908 222419 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'shachaf': shachaf sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. < 1436399909 301204 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor olives < 1436399911 753418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? he < 1436399912 531164 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hates bell peppers with a passion. < 1436399925 148816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/he < 1436399926 424119 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1436399930 16645 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: fr:piment is anything hot, but people oftentimes call poivrons «piments» (which is an annoying misnomer) < 1436399931 824406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/he < 1436399932 186512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? funpuns < 1436399933 875906 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :funpuns fceø fbz fryyrev naq pbfcynlf Arcrgn Yrvwba ba jrrxraqf. < 1436399935 856330 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436399941 209258 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` < 1436399941 811367 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````: not found < 1436399948 633607 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no it's raining < 1436399951 476177 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloren! < 1436399955 407841 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYZ < 1436399955 725615 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 082300Z 16006KT 15SM OVC250 19/10 A3006 RMK CI8 SLP178 DENSITY ALT 1000FT < 1436399959 461672 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not. < 1436399976 143948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rot13 < wisdom/shachaf >wisdom/funpun < 1436399978 195892 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436399981 445324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? funpuns < 1436399982 123899 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's supposed to rain this evening... dunno < 1436399982 177704 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :funpuns fceø fbz fryyrev naq pbfcynlf Arcrgn Yrvwba ba jrrxraqf. Ur ungrf oryy crccref jvgu n cnffvba. < 1436399987 658507 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|f`-`|f: why were we ringed twh? < 1436400007 262138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Any reason the file isn't wisdom/funpuns? < 1436400015 466868 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1436400030 463748 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436400312 865517 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :` < 1436400313 282621 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1436400316 547269 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1436400317 123696 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1436400324 772267 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436400325 672626 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :justice/Justice is just behavior or treatment. < 1436400331 544117 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436400332 326895 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finland/Finland is a European country. There are two people in Finland, and at least nine of them are in this channel. Corun drives the bus. < 1436400341 932158 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436400342 726692 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlambda/``ci`r`.!`.l`.a`.i`.v`.i`.r`.t`. `.t`.s`.e`.'`.c`. `.,`.a`.d`.b`.m`.a`.l`.n`.U`ci < 1436400383 946095 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlambda cest trivial? < 1436400387 739606 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436400388 602585 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :soup/What soup, Doc? < 1436400392 493901 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436400393 992146 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1/higgledy piggledy / hp pavilion / doesn't like jokes that are / written in text; // uncontroversially, / one in a million is / roughly the chance they won't / be left perplexed < 1436400397 627941 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: you should know that, according to current internet trends, Finland's existence is even more questionable than Canada's. < 1436400442 254827 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436400471 483075 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can confirm that i've never been in finland hth < 1436400499 398930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik < 1436400548 286811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :from experience, this was mainly due to a sudden interruption in the road whenever we reached Umeå. < 1436400563 733541 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rbxyisgfxtomdkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does fnordbot do? < 1436400564 979836 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bb010g: will." this is all sens-o-tape." mr prosser, " hadn't even begun to speculate," he continued, " you just let the machines began to think that the chances of getting picked. he was a hell of a lot. " so," said ford, " he was a hell of a lot. " so," said ford, " the vogons run the ship, the dentrassis.," he said to a small lump of green and blue. " so," said ford, " you reckon, what's the problem? " the universe to it, a < 1436400572 243708 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rbxyisgfxtomdkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1436400577 409782 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My dad says he's been there, ut that was like 30 years ago, so it might not exist anymore < 1436400606 826044 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :bb010g: it makes random text that looks like a book < 1436400632 452522 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rbxyisgfxtomdkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Guessing the source is the Guide < 1436400645 266991 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1436400645 320810 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1436400645 622161 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: irc* < 1436400649 773280 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436400668 971555 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bb010g: fnordbot is purely us. fungot has different styles. < 1436400669 186227 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: doesn't say which prolog embedding of scheme in linux kernel to run on pdas and on oskit < 1436400669 397943 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily:. you want to try a guess at all, ford?" " well you see," ford hissed at him, " two to the power of two hundred and thirty-nine thousand lightly on, " you're not here for the sheer that its top, bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a dust cloud? all his heirs are now long dead, and this is frankie, " a simple one!" " you just let the machines began to sink downward and to everyone else out there, the secret." " the < 1436400717 489070 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rbxyisgfxtomdkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Did someone in here quote the whole first book? < 1436400741 143223 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rbxyisgfxtomdkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or was that just source, and it needs to learn more? < 1436400744 21625 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bb010g: eh... probably so. lots of things happen here. < 1436400779 641062 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1436400780 15655 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: what is that about? http://mjt.nysv.org/ humor/ fnord < 1436400807 558808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bb010g: i think int-e just put h2g2 into fnordbot because he had that file available, and called it irc because fungot's source loads that by default < 1436400807 664783 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: anyone want one of these".) < 1436400807 988659 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: really, cosmically speaking, so stop whatever you're doing?" he just have to be," said vroomfondel in an awed whisper, " think our brains must a man walk down? he grinned a stupid hopeful. walk to the bridge at that, i can tell. " so all i have to do in order to find this wretched," ford hissed at him, " two to the power of two hundred and thirty-nine thousand lightly on to a direct male-line descendant of genghis khan, < 1436400863 982234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was just an emergency measure during heavy fungot withdrawal. < 1436400864 195100 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you could use some dynamic programming to avoid recomputing some fnord, but outputted fnord directly so one could use some of the statements fnord to 4 < 1436400925 83706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, because the style files aren't included in fungot's github repository < 1436400925 226122 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: write a ticket! imagine!)" at http://www.common-lisp.net/ paste/ display/ fnord < 1436400951 102540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i am not sure fizzie _wants_ to add them there, there are probably copyright issues. < 1436400951 207456 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you give it < 1436401027 926799 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hardstatus string "%{b rC}時 %M %d %D %0c 時 窓 %w 窓" < 1436401029 999385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(question: how much of the source corpus would you be able to reconstruct from the n-gram files...) < 1436401175 596385 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think much, maybe a few sentences that are guaranteed to occur. < 1436401229 513963 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And any phrase conatining a word that only occurred once could be reconstructed < 1436401314 193767 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but note that iirc it contains frequency data, not just what words _can_ follow each other < 1436401352 621286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you might be able to do something by analyzing the exact numbers < 1436401357 744516 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... yeah < 1436401408 576445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course fungot has a well-known bug with actually using that frequency data < 1436401434 162357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which probably explains how it can get into loops but not out of them < 1436401503 608731 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1436401504 59487 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: i'm afraid you're beyond help. lates ebuild for mzscheme in gentoo was for 205 < 1436401511 451488 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1436401512 49666 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: as in, the debugger presents the user with having to open it up to the job! argh. http://panic.joroinen.fi/pk/ breakpoint03/ img_0519.jpg say < 1436401518 462569 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I <3 fungot < 1436401518 886158 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the reason that i may write in scheme48 also if the person would have heard of it before i can get them as fortunes on your computer. click here to download plugin". < 1436401523 518740 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436401549 533165 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1436401549 971077 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: there's at least one scheme interpreter efficiently implemented in the traditional lambda-calculus. seriously, i think. < 1436401644 705881 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's crazy, but apparently they got me a macbook pro, just to have me use it as a terminal to the servers where I do the actual work < 1436401698 313497 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that common? what sort of computers does google give their coder? < 1436401719 400926 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :customize it like there's no tomorrow! < 1436401752 582895 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :go crazy with fonts, experimental font patches, colorschemes, keyboard shortcuts, screen status lines, touhou wallpapers... < 1436401796 143995 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already did that. I have all that stuff stored in a tarball on a thumbdrive < 1436401890 771920 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I mean, I could do this work with a dell shitbox < 1436401899 873928 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1436401900 927677 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why the macbook < 1436401905 229917 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because. < 1436401908 180728 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia! < 1436401910 634143 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you figured out when you can borderlands yet < 1436401936 546844 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this weekend! < 1436402095 282307 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :which day < 1436402160 642060 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either one of them, but I may be unavailable around lunchtime for one of them. < 1436402181 207380 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which do you prefer? < 1436402191 762231 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :saturday < 1436402259 400463 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then Saturday. < 1436402281 358079 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'll be sure to have my beard trimmed and my laundry done by then.) < 1436402444 205800 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the beard trim? < 1436402451 361736 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i also need to laundry) < 1436402567 163068 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want it to get caught in the microphone thingy. I'm already having enough trouble with my bike helmet strap. < 1436403099 431479 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436403852 413188 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-153-31.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1436403959 525392 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-1-244.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1436404121 727518 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://calmerthanyouare.org/2015/01/07/optimizing-brainfuck.html what does long.b do? < 1436404184 380512 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/rdebath/Brainfuck/blob/master/testing/Long.b does this actually do something? < 1436404209 683757 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1436404252 386405 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izbellora. it probably circonvolutely computes a single value, then prints it. < 1436404281 189991 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :izbellora o_o < 1436404565 284341 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And here the only optimizations I have thought of are removing >< <> +- -+ ][blah blah blah] < 1436404575 915525 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I guess counting < 1436404634 624226 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: sorry, missed the a between the z and b. < 1436404674 991488 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PUNCTUAL CHICKEN < 1436404740 487473 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess mine are preproccessing operations that emit brainfuck, and those are during-processing < 1436406382 354602 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write a language that compiles to itself < 1436406892 572963 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which works how? < 1436407186 270523 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436407217 736371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just implement cat in it hth < 1436407386 360537 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436408105 714225 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you could compile to machine code, then decompile? < 1436408191 236807 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436408318 100823 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just won the most epic game of one night ultimate werewolf ever. WHAT A RUSH. < 1436408368 346597 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436408868 234368 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436410863 505777 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436411365 64243 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:e866:ad15:33cf:f2a3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436411529 881447 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436411845 278485 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style agora < 1436411845 381401 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: agora (a large selection of Agora rules, both current and historical) < 1436411845 690475 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1436411855 36526 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnordbot: shush, I'm talking to fungot. < 1436411855 90232 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: quota: 3 elements: handed 2 < 1436411855 488197 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: did you think of that, earthman," he said at last, " i don't know," said the vogon guard. " er, that was easy, i got a lift a finger to save you a lot. " so," said ford, " he was a hell of a lot. " so all i have to do in order to find this wretched," he shouted to the guard, " not really. " we had a look at this," said slartibartfast, " that was one of mine," he was saying, " magrathea is a myth, a fairy story, it's wha < 1436411856 728682 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:e866:ad15:33cf:f2a3 PART :#esoteric < 1436411875 497428 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what sort of element do you need? < 1436411875 551314 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: if the decision that is not part of any of the proposal is insane, if the forum in which it is specifically < 1436411912 764616 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: well, in my opinion I'd say that the decision really isn't very insane at all. < 1436411912 867594 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: the basis of scoring, otherwise the power is set to < 1436411974 182786 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what's your score right now? < 1436411974 236705 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: the registrar may declare, without objection, flip the publicity of a rule resulting from the < 1436411997 954764 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436412020 655079 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I object. < 1436412214 208907 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436412258 40269 :password2!~password@197.76.143.96 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436412482 756817 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436412717 482874 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436412874 337781 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436412874 544603 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436413327 582129 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436413531 911973 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1436414399 793213 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436416377 143774 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436416671 98156 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436417729 883708 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, file from 2006, known to me to be malicious. As of tonight, only 44 out of 54 scanners on VirusTotal detect it < 1436417853 931379 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they cleaned up their database :D < 1436417858 172697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@deltree /y C:\*.* < 1436417884 168585 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1436417884 274577 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1436417902 37934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode @deltree < 1436417902 648766 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0020 SPACE] [U+0040 COMMERCIAL AT] [U+0064 LATIN SMALL LETTER D] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] [U+006C LATIN SMALL LETTER L] [U+0074 LATIN SMALL LETTER T] [U+0072 LATIN SMALL LETTER R] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] [U+0020 SPACE] < 1436417913 795649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@deltree < 1436417913 849436 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1436417920 249256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1436417927 70815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1436418031 966375 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: fool me twice... you can't get fooled again < 1436418058 617104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thwacks shachaf with a bush ===%%% < 1436418097 298965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is i cannot detect it from putty < 1436418140 591946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't trying to fool you, just to be polite and not trigger lambdabot. < 1436418201 297879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what they all say < 1436418224 84076 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shopping -> < 1436419363 243175 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1436419478 545039 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: Windows XP Activation Wizard requires IE6 (or 7?), it will not work with IE8 < 1436419505 748610 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/276368/possibly-self-inflicted-boot-problem/ < 1436419545 156658 :ppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca NICK :coppro < 1436420072 854182 :password2!~password@197.76.143.96 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436422377 588176 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some crazy esoteric ideas are haunting me again. I'll have to think more about them. < 1436422422 742110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they non-euclidean? < 1436422498 397444 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes. non-metric in fact. < 1436422510 902064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1436422567 695545 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's just the problem I've identified. there's probably more, because I couldn't figure out a consistent system yet. < 1436422585 665440 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's definitely impossible to get a consistent system, the important question is how impossible it is. < 1436422591 583393 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436422610 235829 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i safely remove [] from a brainfuck program? it's either a nop or an endless loop < 1436422647 703659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: not if you don't want what's after it to run? < 1436422651 531622 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, it has to be tried because I think there's a lot I can learn from seeing how it fails < 1436422663 916769 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Depend on whether or not it is consider OK to remove endless loops that perform no I/O; that depends what you are trying to do, though < 1436422698 576021 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They did mention on esolang wiki list of ideas, the idea of the non-Euclidean esolang, so yes you could make ones with even more strange geometry too < 1436422743 802001 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :my main concern is that i'm producing bash code and this is invalid because the body is empty: while condition; do done < 1436422777 13272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` while true; do ; done < 1436422777 573162 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `;' \ bash: -c: line 0: `while true; do ; done' < 1436422784 815103 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah, that's a good one too, but in this case the geometry isn't the starting point or goal, it's just a consequence I don't see how to avoid < 1436422789 307964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` while true; do echo -n; done < 1436422799 666526 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Just add something inside the loop then < 1436422806 494822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1436422807 771493 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1436422816 704951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` while true; do true; done < 1436422819 806657 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436422839 973213 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` while true; do done < 1436422840 663626 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `done' \ bash: -c: line 0: `while true; do done' < 1436422843 913526 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` while true; do :; done < 1436422847 169424 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436422858 614172 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, it's finished executing that infinite loop quite fast < 1436422874 356449 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436422879 740525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i think it may be my second one you saw < 1436423002 249434 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: The geometry is consequence of what, and why do you necessarily have to avoid? < 1436423555 131251 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436423733 771678 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc main(i) { for(i = 0; i > 0; ++i); } < 1436423738 189101 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436423755 297484 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc main() { long i; for(i = 0; i > 0; ++i); } < 1436423756 215023 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436423772 12521 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc main(i) { for(i = 1; i > 0; ++i); } // uhh < 1436423802 525066 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436423835 76125 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1436424754 511575 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436424763 146838 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1436424788 306447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc printf("test"); < 1436424789 112735 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/a.c:1:8: error: expected declaration specifiers or ‘...’ before string constant \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors. < 1436424795 827796 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436424812 1509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc main() { printf("test"); } < 1436424812 941206 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1436425095 821917 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436425416 603842 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436426350 875867 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnordy morning to y'all < 1436426365 808573 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever thou art. < 1436426386 10069 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tsnryjsmhiwmorit PRIVMSG #esoteric :o/ < 1436426639 860328 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436426667 209338 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYVR < 1436426667 421660 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYVR 090700Z 10010KT 10SM BKN120 18/14 A2972 RMK FU4AS1 SLP065 DENSITY ALT 500FT < 1436426830 643107 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LZSH < 1436426830 961393 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No result. < 1436426836 860873 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LSZH < 1436426837 110966 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LSZH 090720Z 26011KT 9999 FEW040 BKN075 18/09 Q1021 NOSIG < 1436427275 892933 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :film projectors are really interesting machines < 1436427699 748925 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1436429651 959792 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rbxyisgfxtomdkey QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1436429756 488510 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436430102 622481 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436430352 944132 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436430376 604627 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436430408 646602 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1436430560 196771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1436433672 504157 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:883f:a1fe:7818:a366 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436434156 25021 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ TIMES= ./bfjit examples/factor.b <<< 259852698 < 1436434157 592350 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :compilation time: real: 0m0.172s, user: 0m0.170s, sys: 0m0.007s < 1436434159 782390 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :259852698: 2 3 3 3 3 7 43 73 73 < 1436434161 592901 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :execution time: real: 0m17.374s, user: 0m17.390s, sys: 0m0.000s < 1436434164 633525 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fastest bf interpreter in da wrold < 1436436632 312237 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436436917 301618 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436437273 292262 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436437349 916917 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :still waiting for netflix to properly support paypal ... < 1436437532 531437 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436437964 58363 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436437977 188633 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1436439420 586381 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1436439990 975607 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436439996 831838 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey < 1436440008 174796 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :has this idea been done as an esolang : http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/~ATH < 1436440035 171197 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah, it's hard to figure out actual semantics for the weirder examples < 1436440079 432123 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically it executes programs at the end of the lifespan of some objects < 1436440084 361697 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually universes < 1436440116 208211 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess if I want to implement it, I'll have to simulate those universes < 1436440122 118447 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking specifically of Sollux's red and blue programs < 1436440140 636631 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereahello. there's a reference to it on the esowiki, but it is a “fictional esoteric programming language”. < 1436440158 60203 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1436440180 288284 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the real challenge would be to write down the universe to import < 1436440186 992347 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically write down a SBURB session < 1436440220 674116 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there isn't much that you can do in the examples < 1436440228 921385 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly just summon Lord English < 1436440287 117659 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure my CPU can do that < 1436440387 542255 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only thing I know about Lord English is that it can be killed. < 1436440399 491219 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well by his very name, yes < 1436440590 889111 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess what I could do is like < 1436440601 243920 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unroll events in each universes < 1436440606 631195 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including time travel events < 1436440612 443434 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then the compiler checks the consistency < 1436440661 988091 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a bit cheating since they are supposed to be real universes, but o well < 1436440683 853840 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PROPELLER CHICKEN < 1436441191 841417 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436443164 141356 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436443427 132119 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436443540 129540 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1436443860 380204 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436444178 189500 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it valid for a brainfuck optimiser to remove things like "[]"? < 1436444217 406768 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436444230 396840 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it would not render +[] very well < 1436444248 904340 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Transforming the program from one that might not halt due to this, to one that does but produces the same result when it does < 1436444268 319635 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah, what? < 1436444279 252221 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would halt instead of not halt! < 1436444293 194960 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Optimised compilers do fuck up weird cases, though, so I guess it's not too bad < 1436444322 442342 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That will teach the programmer to write like a weirdo < 1436444345 647657 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what's the state of the art in brainfuck optimisation these days? < 1436444372 300707 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing in a real language, probably < 1436444687 309659 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436444796 492865 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should use that line on haskell programmers < 1436444835 852716 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did the Brainfuck OS ever go anywhere < 1436444888 427836 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, heh < 1436444904 633441 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah, I hadn't heard of it? < 1436444924 583072 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I guess it did not :p < 1436445259 930239 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :an OS in brainfuck is plain stupid < 1436445269 415344 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly because you have no atomic copy operation < 1436445321 345565 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well anything in BF is plain stupid < 1436445325 940164 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and might need some extra instructions anyway < 1436445327 935767 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is sort of the point < 1436445331 540443 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :to load descriptor tables and things like that < 1436445335 105692 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and doing IRETs etc. < 1436445348 365142 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436445358 431038 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... writing a ROT13 program in BF is perfectly not stupid ;) < 1436445377 176742 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wouldn't be my first language of choice, but it's not a stupid idea to write a ROT13 program in BF. < 1436445439 249408 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: or just some magical cells at the part of the tape to the left from the starting cells. but yes, writing anything in BF is a stupid idea. < 1436445545 55867 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a horribly inefficient language :D < 1436445697 539741 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :[] is either a NOP or an infinite loop < 1436445732 613910 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1436445819 80508 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh. if you don't care about the IO, then anything is either a NOP or an infinite loop. that's just how ordinary computation works. < 1436445902 586092 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but [] isn't doing any I/O < 1436446056 927134 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436446075 898861 :v4s!v4s@we.are.on.the.internet.plzdonthack.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436446410 462572 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1436447340 155730 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1436448135 927067 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It still sucks for ROT13 because any such program leaves itself unchanged (unlike http://www.ioccc.org/1989/westley.c) < 1436448594 830207 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Polynomial14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43438&oldid=35076 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+1857) 10/* Interpreter */ new section < 1436448611 496448 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ROT13 an ascii text in a way that leaks original text < 1436448634 127142 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like.. letters A-Z < 1436448641 565785 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :other bits can be used to leak information . < 1436448653 888267 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Polynomial14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43439&oldid=43438 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+103) 10 < 1436448684 287382 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Polynomial14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43440&oldid=43439 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (-4) 10 < 1436449076 899213 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436449169 931203 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1436449189 271396 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436450137 469850 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1436450224 749072 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait < 1436450230 8909 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone actually did make a ~ATH < 1436450231 110823 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://learn-tilde-ath.tumblr.com/ < 1436450760 181272 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436451110 75397 :GeoDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :TacoBell < 1436451279 813403 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436451343 781952 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF is a good language for operating system development because it can execute without making any system calls. < 1436451549 773430 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436451625 841016 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also supports low-level memory access and never needs a runtime < 1436451707 689200 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to a RAM place takes forever though :p < 1436451726 813978 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This memory is at 0xFFFFFFFF" < 1436451727 991026 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooo < 1436451732 415913 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :< < 1436451788 136482 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, it has no address space limitations < 1436451953 426305 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but if you do it with > < 1436451957 364442 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may take a while < 1436452076 122449 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes me wonder if something like succinct BF is possible---only logarithmic overhead is imposed. < 1436452288 528109 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :succinct bf? < 1436452292 291884 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-211.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we alrd have a most succint language (up to constant terms) < 1436452365 151202 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, we may have more than one such language < 1436453010 701901 :kawazaki22222222!~user@65.207.107.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436454159 7706 :TacoBell!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :GeekDude < 1436454923 333262 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1436455305 362893 :kawazaki22222222!~user@65.207.107.66 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436456145 8250 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436456204 805178 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436456324 50078 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436456336 667566 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1436456446 795666 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436458275 490464 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436459831 974089 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436461637 692597 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436462387 471840 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1436463124 446112 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1436463438 839376 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436463722 779728 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436463917 731928 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:dc11:619c:32d2:6a34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436464305 997005 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYVR < 1436464306 597959 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYVR 091700Z 11007KT 12SM SKC 23/14 A2975 RMK FU3 SLP074 DENSITY ALT 1000FT < 1436464341 960501 :ap3ju!~user@65.207.107.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436464364 565556 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, down to 3/8 opacity from smoke. Finally. < 1436464604 89468 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LOWI < 1436464604 512310 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 091750Z VRB03KT 9999 SCT080 SCT100 20/08 Q1020 WS ALL RWY NOSIG < 1436464810 15224 :ap3ju!~user@65.207.107.66 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436465000 720858 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436465063 757743 :crazykay!~user@65.207.107.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436465622 949971 :crazykay!~user@65.207.107.66 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1436465672 745439 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436466399 459432 :jshod!~user@65.207.107.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436466632 587347 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does one optimize something like this? [->+>+>+<<<] < 1436466716 43602 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in when writing a compiler, or the BF? < 1436466724 557205 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :when writing a compiler < 1436466743 563989 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try to work out if it can be translated into a set of adds/subtractions without the loop. < 1436466794 586960 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand that, it becomes tape[i+1] = tape[i+2] = tape[i+3] = tape[i]; tape[i] = 0 < 1436466815 354507 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just don't know how to get there from the bf code... < 1436466873 464605 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an addition, not an =. I have some code somewhere for translating things like that to a structure... < 1436466885 178188 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes right < 1436466909 235868 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :my target language doesn't have structures ^^' < 1436466924 441211 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not your target language, the compiler's language < 1436466938 201689 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's my target language as well <.< < 1436466955 380343 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. What language is that? < 1436466959 42907 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash >.> < 1436467017 537591 :jshod!~user@65.207.107.66 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436467092 407646 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not quite as slow as it used to be https://github.com/izabera/bf/blob/master/bf < 1436467096 800848 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be simulated with a directory full of files, I guess. It's not a complex structure, just a simple map from keys(relative tape indices) to values(how much to multiply the input value by). So [->+<] becomes 0=-1,1=1(0 is whatever the MP is at the start of the loop) < 1436467223 114210 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The input value is whatever tape[MP] was before the loop started. < 1436467366 894279 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can rot13 the whole gpl2 in 35s < 1436467440 979748 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for how to get these values, interpret the code and record what it does. If the MP is different by the end of the loop, or a sub-loop gets involved, don't try optimizing that particular loop(but do optimize the sub-loops if that's possible). (There's probably some way subloops could be handled...) < 1436467490 244110 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(...but it probably wouldn't be as simple.) < 1436467508 383858 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1436467515 529332 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the hint < 1436468297 918003 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just read through my code. Apparently, the offset to the loop counter has to be -1. (this wouldn't be optimized: [-->+<]) This is because it can't be translated directly to additions/subtractions.(Plus it simplifies the compiler code.) < 1436468643 550426 :jwg443!~user@65.207.107.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436469215 357699 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436469969 563269 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436470247 554702 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436470330 342091 :jwg443!~user@65.207.107.66 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436470739 900931 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and where is your code? D: < 1436471021 423005 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I found a full-width British pound sign. < 1436471024 292877 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode £ < 1436471040 513689 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+FFE1 FULLWIDTH POUND SIGN] < 1436471051 788534 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know they made those. < 1436471472 493521 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436471474 745384 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plugh/A hollow voice says "Plugh" < 1436471481 489021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/plugh < 1436471482 999144 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott boily < 1436471749 160519 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1436471766 241594 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1436472424 397276 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436474497 564329 :jwg443!~user@65.207.107.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436475030 42876 :jwg443!~user@65.207.107.66 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436475127 499627 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1436475127 590587 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1436475618 563296 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1436475978 573104 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436476441 297028 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436476502 644068 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436476771 524902 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436477521 410736 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436477667 168623 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436478193 582654 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436478873 723131 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07QKAS14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43441&oldid=43195 5* 0396.59.227.171 5* (+1) 10 < 1436479796 293617 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1436479903 464664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1436479943 341891 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:dc11:619c:32d2:6a34 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436480003 728963 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@99-148-190-17.lightspeed.renonv.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436480135 83453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell slereah has this idea been done as an esolang : http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/~ATH <-- our wiki has a page but it's not very concrete but not an actual specification. < 1436480135 191626 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1436480152 446761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...stupid irssi line editing < 1436480200 745812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell slereah * oerjan balmes stupid irssi line editing for the previous message not making grammar sense < 1436480200 879425 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1436480220 321364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell slereah * oerjan also blames muphry's law [sic] < 1436480220 427915 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1436480666 380063 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-153-31.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1436480670 334647 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-153-31.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already went there < 1436480676 578884 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-153-31.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there is an actual language! < 1436480703 365607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're all doomed hth < 1436480704 963919 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-153-31.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://learn-tilde-ath.tumblr.com/ < 1436480729 562968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436480755 685223 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@/@ is an OS made out of only the finest vapour. < 1436480810 247403 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1436480826 607960 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436480826 698524 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1436480826 698566 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436480943 319200 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think i'm allowed to remove everything after the last . or , (or last loop that contains either . or ,) in brainfuck? < 1436480985 909019 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-153-31.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends. < 1436481001 989325 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-153-31.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :If all your care about is what ends up on the screen, then sure < 1436481010 380165 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else? < 1436481011 113779 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-153-31.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also < 1436481025 8471 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-153-31.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends if it could loop, I guess? < 1436481040 221421 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-153-31.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno < 1436481041 862731 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm already removing loops that can't loop < 1436481050 895545 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :like [-][stuff here] < 1436481102 259847 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can this exit? code code code .[-]+[++] < 1436481185 196530 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[-]+[++] would exit in a wrapping environment. < 1436481185 302290 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-153-31.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1436481195 796038 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wait... *realizes* < 1436481196 580335 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-153-31.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even wrapping. < 1436481201 544952 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-153-31.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because odd number < 1436481276 342336 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correction: wrapping environment with an even maximum number < 1436481291 225554 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll have no effect whatsoever so i don't see the point in keeping that part < 1436481325 757973 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-153-31.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well be careful not to start removing important parts < 1436481341 21222 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll try < 1436481416 168503 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really much you can save by removing dead code < 1436481421 944528 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because people generally don't leave dead code < 1436481480 44293 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense but you do reduce +-+--+-+ to - , don't you? < 1436481490 868834 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can't count < 1436481524 388958 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's pretend that i wrote -+-+-+-+- < 1436481604 23177 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why reduce it? It should never exist. Maybe show a warning. < 1436481643 642141 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note that this does *NOT* count when handling self-modifying variants. However, in that case, optimizers can't help you.) < 1436481815 432067 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1436481837 437558 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-153-31.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :The biggest thing you have to do, really, is just to convert BF into proper assembly < 1436481845 674714 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-153-31.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :+++++++++++++ should be ADD n < 1436481849 763543 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-153-31.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1436481867 645184 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's easy <.< < 1436481894 424955 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-153-31.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully yes < 1436482543 15966 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't that big game in BF have a lot of dead code? < 1436482581 830416 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Lost Kingdom < 1436482633 182822 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I count 585 ][ < 1436482654 177814 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of which 571 are ][-] < 1436482693 683964 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how much of an optimization removing those are, but it's not none < 1436482710 540387 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't see >< <> +- -+ < 1436482714 374877 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was expecting to see some < 1436482762 310412 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no realistic chance that Microsoft offers XP ISOs, is there? < 1436482800 691373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lost kingdom is generated, so it makes sense it has code a human wouldn't make. < 1436482837 93386 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436482845 461766 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :feeling p. wise right now < 1436482857 233769 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436482864 723628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :p.-wise, i'm feeling < 1436482884 16717 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for further details./See `? for further details for futher details. < 1436483010 940270 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436483012 533224 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly/We don't know what certainly is for sure, but at least it isn't a functor. < 1436483014 915154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :feeling less wise now < 1436483035 433494 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are we sure certainly isn't a functor? < 1436483040 742495 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/certainly < 1436483042 487257 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull elliott Sgeo Jafet < 1436483048 196751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/certainly | grep summary: < 1436483049 257689 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: revert \ summary: for x in wisdom/*; do rev "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ summary: cp wisdom/certain{t,l}y && sed -i \'s/ty/ly/\' wisdom/certainly < 1436483057 160332 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember touching certainly < 1436483065 85256 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I certainly don't remember, anyway < 1436483072 826001 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url < 1436483073 616632 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1436483075 212202 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --removed wisdom/certainly | grep Sgeo < 1436483076 933680 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: revert 2243 < 1436483094 566138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/certainty < 1436483098 923486 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull elliott Sgeo boily boily < 1436483106 662517 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/certainty | grep summary: < 1436483107 568745 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: revert \ summary: for x in wisdom/*; do rev "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ summary: revert 2416 \ summary: echo -n "We don\'t know what certainty is for sure, but at least it isn\'t a functor." >wisdom/certainty \ summary: echo -n "We don\'t know what certainty is for sur < 1436483123 149975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? certainty < 1436483127 209106 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't know what certainty is for sure, but at least it isn't a functor. < 1436483143 224545 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436483205 59597 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That command made me a culprit for most wisdoms I'm sure < 1436483214 524960 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/rev/be90d778a82d?revcount=80 < 1436483226 316558 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand what I'm looking at < 1436483233 233244 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHat was this command? < 1436483264 587106 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 2243 < 1436483270 263905 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1436483278 640696 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, what was 2243? < 1436483303 261762 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A revision? < 1436483380 30795 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was the command for that revision? < 1436483441 696801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: hm looking at that thing, i suspect your 2243 was a typo < 1436483455 745271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you reverted to a far older revision than intended < 1436483482 830740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. `olist was just a plain echo command < 1436483503 334464 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-153-31.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436483512 78970 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, oops < 1436483547 374047 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1436483603 639276 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436483604 490601 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :herbalist/A herbalist is a list of herbas. < 1436483645 607198 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does GCC want me to put parentheses around && inside ||? < 1436483693 484182 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :of all the C precedence rules, if any are correct that one is. < 1436483843 911549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: looks like elliott reverted it again afterwards http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/log/b453e72e25f5/bin/olist < 1436483848 821921 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's next, warning: suggest parentheses around `*' within `+'??? < 1436483887 964961 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.clickhole.com/video/dont-have-dice-handy-dice-simulator-gives-you-numb-2710 < 1436484051 984277 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning: suggest parentheses around '+' within '==' < 1436484197 657633 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :be sure to reroll < 1436484224 730682 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436484226 953236 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to be addicted < 1436484234 384029 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mdude/MDude is just a dude, with an M's courage. < 1436485662 859167 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently 羅 is the kanji abbreviation for the Latin language. < 1436485801 792441 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, why does every article on Japanese Wikipedia contain the translation into English and sometimes Latin for the language? < 1436485821 989651 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/language/topic/ < 1436486059 407183 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why it's necessary for them to put (英:Population) on the article for 人口. The equivalent spanish and russian articles don't have it < 1436486698 788916 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436487049 952877 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436487101 192866 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fungot in the sky, please have mercy on my taste buds. < 1436487101 299161 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: default of zero points. a contestmaster may award a number to those cast by the fee shall be removed, then < 1436487125 389506 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: many zeroes. chile extract. ow. < 1436487125 495780 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: a speaker or speaker-elect shall become frozen. the < 1436487466 339191 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think e suggests you should try to be Agora Speaker to cool down hth < 1436487783 139359 :rodgort!~rodgort@105.ip-167-114-152.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436487953 96308 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dice < 1436487953 735125 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: dice: not found < 1436487968 479771 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "http://www.clickhole.com/video/dont-have-dice-handy-dice-simulator-gives-you-numb-2710" > dice < 1436487970 918746 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436487973 370227 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "http://www.clickhole.com/video/dont-have-dice-handy-dice-simulator-gives-you-numb-2710" > bin/dice < 1436487975 2595 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436487977 998647 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dice < 1436487978 599535 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/dice: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/dice: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1436487985 795891 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod a+x bin/dice < 1436487987 331804 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436487988 404572 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dice < 1436487988 883439 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/dice: line 1: http://www.clickhole.com/video/dont-have-dice-handy-dice-simulator-gives-you-numb-2710: No such file or directory < 1436488008 6021 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436488008 921341 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode/Unicode is a mess invented in 1988 by Xerox, Microsoft, the Spanish Inquisition, and the evil Human Supremacy Corporation, in order to make it easier for the government to spy on Chinese people. < 1436488014 953272 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "echo 'http://www.clickhole.com/video/dont-have-dice-handy-dice-simulator-gives-you-numb-2710'" > dice < 1436488018 401283 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436488021 63924 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dice < 1436488021 579030 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/dice: line 1: http://www.clickhole.com/video/dont-have-dice-handy-dice-simulator-gives-you-numb-2710: No such file or directory < 1436488029 533211 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel dumb today < 1436488034 241810 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "echo 'http://www.clickhole.com/video/dont-have-dice-handy-dice-simulator-gives-you-numb-2710'" > bin/dice < 1436488036 610732 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436488037 564218 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dice < 1436488038 96495 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.clickhole.com/video/dont-have-dice-handy-dice-simulator-gives-you-numb-2710 < 1436488060 241102 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm dice < 1436488063 560703 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436488351 717545 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436488359 101514 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436488468 370371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you cannot depose the speaker by deputisation, for at least two different reasons: (1) it's not an elected office (2) the speaker has no actual duties you could deputise for < 1436488479 546042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wong wrindow < 1436488563 891325 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll do as if I hadn't seen anything, and gently continue `wisdoming. < 1436488565 796309 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436488567 272891 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck/Heck is where you end up if you don't believe in Gosh. < 1436488651 462323 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436488661 210495 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris/maur is the correct spelling < 1436488666 568797 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloren. < 1436488668 994039 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436488670 641753 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a/A is _not_ a village in Norway, unless you're the BBC and don't understand things on top of letters. < 1436489053 126808 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.onionstudios.com/embed?id=2990&replay_allow=false&replay_text=Roll%20Again dice videos go from [2990,3012] excluding 3011 < 1436489634 116409 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@99-148-190-17.lightspeed.renonv.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Left < 1436489668 52554 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:dc11:619c:32d2:6a34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436490687 931622 :Herbalist!~oz@77.42.250.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436490688 198122 :Herbalist!~oz@77.42.250.204 QUIT :Changing host < 1436490688 252378 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1436490716 300872 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist PART :#esoteric < 1436491375 168531 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436491657 798123 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: JARRED CHICKEN < 1436493431 682063 :conehead!~conehead@2a01:4f8:201:7482::2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436493431 787251 :conehead!~conehead@2a01:4f8:201:7482::2 QUIT :Changing host < 1436493431 841555 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1436493450 659332 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1436493451 6271 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 100153Z 26010KT 10SM FEW014 SCT026 BKN080 OVC130 17/13 A2989 RMK AO2 SLP122 T01720128 < 1436493935 645432 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436495013 340342 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436495081 444063 :jwg443!~user@wsip-98-191-215-234.dc.dc.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436495289 176955 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1436495465 167677 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436495598 805086 :jwg443!~user@wsip-98-191-215-234.dc.dc.cox.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436496750 626814 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1436497802 936354 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: are you related to https://github.com/dev-zzo twh < 1436497816 422480 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not have accoutn on GitHub < 1436497867 710723 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :another member of the zzo family < 1436497985 751248 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436498011 646327 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1436498706 864026 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436498950 827352 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436499279 962178 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYZ < 1436499280 546838 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 100300Z 35007KT 15SM FEW045 18/12 A2998 RMK SC1 SLP152 DENSITY ALT 1000FT < 1436499463 954559 :password2!~password@197.76.130.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436499505 825645 :rodgort!~rodgort@105.ip-167-114-152.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436499569 544245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eep another tls error from a different site, i'm starting to think it's my browser that's got a bug < 1436499620 354672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a number of things got more flakey recently. < 1436499809 526563 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What's the website? < 1436499824 210294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mail.haskell.org this time < 1436499839 318891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the previous ones were all reddit, so i thought they were the culprit < 1436500201 763804 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The SSL looks fine to me < 1436500221 511981 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's confirm we are getting the same certificate < 1436500228 914304 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What web browser are you using? < 1436500308 524305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I connected to http://mail.haskell.org/ so we shouldn't need SSL with it? < 1436500329 172677 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It automatically redirects to SSL < 1436500343 368382 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or wait, that might be the HTTPS Everywhere addon < 1436500389 744991 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think HTTP 2 always does encryption too < 1436500406 94531 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then tell it which ones to enable/disable individually maybe, or disable HTTP 2 if that is the problem < 1436500633 373736 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, it is the website that automatically redirects to https < 1436500681 50357 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For me it doesn't? < 1436500742 455502 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Odd, it does for me with https everywhere disabled. Maybe Firefox remembers it works over https? < 1436500767 470912 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I can go to it over http with xlinks < 1436500790 279190 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly with HSTS or with cookies; if HSTS, you need to replace your browser. < 1436500846 39013 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What's your browser? < 1436501094 30108 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1436501164 262693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IE 11 < 1436501238 479278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: oh also, the error is intermittent, reloading fixes it. < 1436501284 446416 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a different problem; when HTTPS fails on some server, it won't work again for that server until the browser is restarted (but this doesn't automatically cause problems on other servers too). < 1436503984 146181 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No idea then < 1436503986 383879 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never used IE < 1436504003 489071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1436504128 766326 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, IE10 works at least once < 1436504167 157298 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh this is actually IE11 < 1436504206 335825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am mostly assuming they broke something with one of the last updates - because tabs started behaving a bit weird too < 1436504221 789583 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HSTS is set < 1436504230 922952 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 63072000 / 60 < 1436504232 513060 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1051200.0 < 1436504243 884258 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 63072000 / 60 / 60 < 1436504245 688165 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 17520.0 < 1436504248 582796 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 63072000 / 60 / 60 / 24 < 1436504250 546383 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 730.0 < 1436504258 325483 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 63072000 / 60 / 60 / 24 / 365 < 1436504260 170988 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.0 < 1436504269 927563 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know HSTS could go for two years < 1436504982 598694 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :HSTS goes against any good kind of software design < 1436505670 886760 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436505759 776199 :password2!~password@197.76.130.23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436505880 774243 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436506171 660002 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436506260 683694 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436506545 674723 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436506547 642707 :password2!~password@197.76.136.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436507782 626201 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:dc11:619c:32d2:6a34 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436507915 636905 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:dc11:619c:32d2:6a34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436508178 799600 :password2!~password@197.76.136.35 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436508373 612610 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Rdococ14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43442&oldid=43407 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+121) 10/* Peano */ < 1436509321 449024 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Refract14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43443&oldid=43426 5* 03Phase 5* (+71) 10add categories < 1436509641 576510 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure a HSTS header can be set for longer than the lifetime of most certificates < 1436509842 58280 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :twitter.com: max-age=631138519 < 1436509863 318749 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certificate expires: Sun 22 Jan 2017 < 1436510348 250792 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436510578 422969 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436510982 975082 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the certificate expiry overrides it? < 1436511022 751511 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how firefox thinks about that. < 1436511030 246681 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe fungot knows. < 1436511030 391770 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: private orders are executed by a type of change, unambiguously describing the action, < 1436512415 251611 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436512679 191388 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436514456 562186 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do they call software "RC2" if it contains stuff they definitely have to fix before the release? < 1436514467 192304 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just riddiculous < 1436514476 805966 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :call it "beta2" or something < 1436514846 650848 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-154-145.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1436515087 361727 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-154-145.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1436515654 357937 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436515718 535863 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Jumper14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43444 5* 03Phase 5* (+2752) 10Create Jumper < 1436515926 483272 :llue!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436515926 593040 :llue!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1436515926 647368 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436516117 869175 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord. < 1436516139 804760 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1436516145 548409 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you just sending a dot < 1436516199 176395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1436516200 410852 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1436516998 379992 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:dc11:619c:32d2:6a34 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436517023 373711 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:fc34:73ef:d7ba:ccbb JOIN :#esoteric < 1436517110 457084 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Jumper14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43445&oldid=43444 5* 03Phase 5* (+25) 10Add headers < 1436517398 605830 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Jumper14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43446&oldid=43445 5* 03Phase 5* (+557) 10Examples and more syntax < 1436517411 277161 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me JOIN :#esoteric < 1436517920 402982 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436518196 582471 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436518568 616591 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Argh!14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43447&oldid=9440 5* 0380.175.127.178 5* (+61) 10Added external link to Mercurial repository < 1436518942 316465 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436519237 238465 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436519639 426686 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436519662 15699 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1436521478 259289 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:fc34:73ef:d7ba:ccbb QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436522016 850882 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436522917 938084 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1436522979 311671 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436525132 383036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, does anyone here know about primitive recursive busy beavers? < 1436525146 87029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my instincts are that the busy beaver problem is decidable in a primitive recursive language < 1436525149 814547 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not quite sure how to define it, though < 1436525176 876191 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like "the largest number that can be output by a program that's no more than X bytes long in «insert primitive recursive language here»" < 1436525204 157818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't have enough primitive recursive esolangs, really < 1436525237 203212 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this came up at work, I'm specifically wondering about whether Church arithmetic in typed lambda calculus has the same power as primitive recursive functions < 1436525456 373028 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1436525457 859343 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436525649 277618 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1436525649 697413 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436525931 817509 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wait... busy beaver functions come up at work? < 1436525942 188471 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but those are totally impractical functions! < 1436525966 287842 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, even the computable variants, if such a thing exists, probably are < 1436525967 740995 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the specific problem is that we can't get a working type inference algo < 1436525984 627439 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the reason seems to be that the algos we've been looking at can only handle exponential blowup in the size of a type < 1436526002 907093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but some sufficiently impractical types blow up faster than that < 1436526046 18351 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this morning I found a constant function f, such that for varying x, the type of f(x) has a size O(2**(2**n)) in the size of the type of x < 1436526053 115908 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, I think busy beaver function for a primitive recursive language is probably computable (though obviously it would blow up very quickly) < 1436526060 799668 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which instantly gives a counterexample < 1436526066 145383 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also think it's computable, and blows up very quickly < 1436526077 830578 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and suspect that it's related to the ackermann function somehow < 1436526115 59852 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, something like that. it could depend on which version of primitive recursive you take < 1436526132 939933 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are all the definitions for that essentially equivalent? < 1436526148 501408 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it matters, I don't know which one it is < 1436526159 695253 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know that the primitive recursive functions are what the type system encodes < 1436526165 434775 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a guess that's looking reasonable at this point < 1436526180 12835 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1436526185 810378 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, lunchtime < 1436526187 279345 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: lunch < 1436526311 91354 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436527018 435040 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's primitive recursion? < 1436527041 282537 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he means -recursive functions without the ? < 1436527056 316387 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0, successor operator, projection, and recursion < 1436527072 762287 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: you know, that crazy thingy logicians invented about a class of algorithms that can be syntactically checked to make sure they terminate < 1436527077 54696 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is the ackermann function not primitive recursive? < 1436527105 206864 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at Ackermann's paper, I guess? < 1436527122 901997 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm bad at math. < 1436527123 8058 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: the detail about the ackermann function doesn't matter, the point is that because of Godel and stuff, you can't make a class that can be syntactically checked to terminate but covers all turing-complete stuff < 1436527136 889937 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: so you have to settle for some intermediate class that covers enough useful things and is closed in some senses < 1436527140 980637 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah I got it. Gödel sucked the joy out of the world. < 1436527150 557579 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: polynomial time would be too small < 1436527163 547639 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: DIRECTED CHICKEN < 1436527175 3020 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could choose a larger class that covers Ackermann, but why bother, then there'd be some even faster growing function it doesn't cover < 1436527207 62178 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :primitive recursive covers all of PH and much more, including double-exponential and triple-exponential runtime algorithms < 1436527255 724335 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah: dunno, that definition never made sense to me. it's like an artifically golfed definition < 1436527277 239199 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't PR exactly the functions you can construct from typed church numerals? < 1436527279 468839 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but probably I just haven't spent the time to understand how it really works < 1436527290 961873 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: that's sort of what ais asked < 1436527297 190612 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno < 1436527362 164039 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wp says busy beavers are neither primitive recursive nor μ-recursive < 1436528397 384139 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask ais523 There is already an esoteric language based on PR. It's called PR. < 1436528397 438519 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1436528417 526242 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: sure, and BLOOP may count as esoteric by some definitions too < 1436528644 362957 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask ais523 The implicit computational complexity people would be the most likely to have proven equivalence between church numerals and PR, but I can't find such a result. < 1436528644 506955 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1436529631 937854 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436530848 80409 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436531112 963748 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436531538 595745 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, I have eaten at least two meals at least two days in a row < 1436531541 687378 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a good start < 1436531977 867014 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for? < 1436532085 134391 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_, getting my eating habits back on track < 1436532094 553668 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the kind of person who forgets to eat < 1436532447 552692 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: . < 1436532463 20298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I think you're missing a sentence there < 1436532482 717513 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah, I'm just waiting for lambdabot to tell you some messages or something < 1436532490 302716 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he's not listening < 1436532499 365395 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or told in another channel) < 1436532503 776488 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1436532504 61242 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1436532526 402962 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, thanks Jafet < 1436532535 837747 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ic < 1436533071 109732 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: meeting < 1436533106 748874 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's my cargo < 1436533326 692243 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. Installed the nightly builds < 1436533636 648020 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1436533712 874784 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist PART :#esoteric < 1436533975 391367 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? metatarski < 1436533985 201163 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :metatarski? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1436534031 778548 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom | grep -i tarski < 1436534032 510861 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436534171 811685 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo wisdom/* | tr ' ' '\n' | grep -i tarski < 1436534172 503259 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/banach-tarski < 1436534181 403103 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? banach-tarski < 1436534182 95056 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"Banach-Tarski" is an anagram of "Banach-Tarski Banach-Tarski". < 1436534191 772500 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :badum tish < 1436534317 11471 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use the Banach-Tarski theorem." < 1436534363 282458 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope u have a good knife < 1436534370 606457 :slereah!~slereah@195.190.86.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To cut things into non-measurable pieces < 1436534488 150167 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: hehe, that's a good one < 1436534490 528023 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or two < 1436535142 194161 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :src/main.rs:6:2: 6:5 error: binary assignment operation `+=` cannot be applied to types `_` and `&i32` [E0368] < 1436535145 110467 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1436535146 730952 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :_? < 1436535149 872565 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's type _ < 1436535170 870946 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you paste the source somewhere? < 1436535324 919377 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. seems I have to dereference it first with * < 1436535331 135582 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language is that even? < 1436535347 123627 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/69j7U1Yn <- this works < 1436535349 402345 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It's Rust. < 1436535352 212925 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, Rust < 1436535353 388796 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1436535491 992758 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: find doesn't work on vectors? < 1436535523 627218 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1436535664 451638 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure it works < 1436535681 338851 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(0..100).find(|x| *x > 42); < 1436535684 197815 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that < 1436535724 521625 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1436535785 45848 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: um, that's a Range, not a vector < 1436535805 998438 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436536067 328122 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Polynomial14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43448&oldid=43440 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (-7) 10fixed code < 1436536126 586057 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/0d5bygmT <- this looks a bit overly complicated < 1436536159 196952 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :need to dereference twice there apparentely < 1436536215 219695 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :iterating over Vec gives you i32 < 1436536225 380091 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :iterating over &Vec gives you i32 < 1436536234 192132 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :* &i32 < 1436536243 695262 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and combine that with find and you'll get &&i32; < 1436536311 948946 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436536575 973873 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436537011 220118 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fternooner < 1436537011 934697 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fternooner (Danish »fternooner«, Norwegian «ttermiddag», Swedish ”ftermiddag”) is a screamingly delicious pastry. < 1436537025 216645 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a fternooner and where can I find one < 1436537176 100298 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436537440 54294 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1436537742 253159 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have idea of how to implement HSTS in a better way though. Instead of doing what it currently does, it would cause the client to assocate any authentication and any cookies that are specified as secure-only with the certificate and cipher in use, as well as stores them in the memory so if the HSTS does not expire yet, it will warn the user if these change, and also store them with bookmarks; but, also permit the user to override any of these op < 1436537767 854594 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1436537820 264829 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The setting for redirecting http:// URLs to https:// URLs (or any URL to any URL) automatically would be defined only by the user though. < 1436538133 886114 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1436538279 244754 :dropdabase!~user@65.207.107.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436538372 814625 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1436538538 919516 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:#esoteric < 1436551587 923891 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:8d3e:6bc4:7637:526d QUIT :Client Quit < 1436551621 523360 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:8d3e:6bc4:7637:526d JOIN :#esoteric < 1436552944 335794 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-154-145.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1436552960 554059 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-154-145.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1436553458 811552 :password2!~password@197.76.132.113 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436553884 92391 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436554139 70733 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1436554548 873812 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436554550 682727 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1436554573 793026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436554576 704646 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh < 1436554581 136554 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ is on < 1436554591 404740 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)/¯/¯\(°_o)/¯ `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1436554591 739152 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69     |         |            | < 1436554591 821450 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   o/`¯º     o/`¯º        o/`¯º < 1436554593 468378 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1436554797 739527 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or not < 1436554816 837611 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :_o_ < 1436554817 57780 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69    | < 1436554817 140816 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   /'\ < 1436554869 814808 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :_o_ < 1436554869 979770 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        | < 1436554870 111918 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69       /| < 1436554881 249667 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1436554881 558845 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1436554896 394295 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we should discuss esolangs :P < 1436555150 646841 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : c.c \o/ heresy O.o < 1436555150 775434 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 c.c.c  | < 1436555150 857003 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  c.c   |\ < 1436555250 735099 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnordbot: why are you still here... I expected you do be kicked by now.. < 1436555251 468923 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you on which the galaxy, a device which made this starship, one day, a student at the university of maximegalon, who pursued a brilliant marble-sanded beaches of santraginus v, inhaling the heady sea vapours; you can sleep under it. " yeah," he was saying, " magrathea is a myth, a fairy story, it's what parents tell their kids at school nicknamed him ix, which in the language. he couldn't, and he didn't like the sound of < 1436555266 29474 :fnordbot!~fungot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436555340 258587 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate < 1436555340 361792 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/ < 1436555340 692118 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | c.c.c |  ¯|¯⌠ `\o/´69   | c.c.c |   `\o/´69  ¯|¯⌠ | c.c.c | < 1436555340 746482 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 |\ c.c /'\ /< |   |    /|  c.c  |\    |    /^\| >\ c.c /´\ < 1436555341 743820 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  /'\                 /'¯|_) < 1436555341 825584 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                (_| |_)             (_| < 1436555346 905692 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that was coincidential < 1436555353 832235 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: not really < 1436555369 942303 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is fnordbot programmed to quit when you talk to it? < 1436555385 887487 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no, but it didn't survive ^C on the shell < 1436555393 932474 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1436555411 383430 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1436555414 306453 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1436555440 997562 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wad fnordbot running somewhere you had access to? < 1436555443 270198 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: fizzie runs fungot, but fungot had stability problems (also, it moved...). I set up a poor replacement... that's fnordbot. < 1436555443 324465 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: a proposal, or < 1436555453 231842 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1436555519 881970 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1436555521 867770 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int e? < 1436555534 965152 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to figure out that name... < 1436555540 38144 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What language is it supposed to be? < 1436555548 29966 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either it's a variable declaration or a cast < 1436555585 959400 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1436555586 64594 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: quota: 1 elements: limited immaculate players 3 exploit: if a revolt occurs. there are no votes cast on the behalf of whom < 1436555589 19002 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1436555603 233534 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot fungot fungot fungot < 1436555603 337499 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: except that which a player submits a judgement to all rules governing proposals, < 1436555610 647735 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1436555610 702057 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora* alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1436555620 545885 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style agora < 1436555620 600145 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: agora (a large selection of Agora rules, both current and historical) < 1436555623 801622 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1436555634 87851 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1436555638 462490 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun one. < 1436555659 580877 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I expect this isn't going to help you, but the - is a minus. < 1436555668 493461 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1436555682 228432 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was just a filler because you couldn't do space :P < 1436555690 299385 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I guess _ would make more sense for that :P < 1436555692 697456 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arin.ga/82YXp1/raw super dead code elimination \o/ < 1436555692 911183 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                                          | < 1436555692 965532 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                                         /| < 1436555730 256355 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION still has to work on multiplication loops < 1436555750 816130 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I made a language centered around making Neural Networks < 1436555752 720415 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, dead code elimination. "my compiler removes code that will never be run"... < 1436555781 232779 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to figure out a joke about that < 1436555783 158110 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can't < 1436555799 627906 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's a loophole in there) < 1436555802 788689 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: <.< < 1436555828 123794 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the loophole? < 1436555846 571324 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :removed code will never be run. < 1436555855 718010 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1436555857 485970 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1436555884 899919 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :def compile(script): return '' < 1436555900 611035 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric : #Code that will never be run removed < 1436555972 800352 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what does lambabot do? < 1436555998 890797 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :stock market quotes, weather reports, quotations, notifications... < 1436556003 183711 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and some haskell stuff < 1436556005 464602 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1436556009 292963 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh < 1436556010 850231 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell < 1436556052 50199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ticker VOO < 1436556052 361889 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :VOO: 190.44 +2.59 (+1.38%) @ 7/10/2015 3:06pm < 1436556058 576446 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1436556058 887573 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix ((0:) : scanl (+) 1) < 1436556060 206649 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type ‘a -> a’ < 1436556060 308736 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type ‘[[Integer] -> [Integer]]’ < 1436556060 363021 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of ‘fix’, namely ‘((0 :) : scanl (+) 1)’ < 1436556070 417033 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, stupid me < 1436556073 244843 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix ((0:) . scanl (+) 1) < 1436556074 855920 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,987,1597,2584,4181,6765,10946,... < 1436556263 756982 :hppavilion[1]!89e58824@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.229.136.36 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436557677 405021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436557688 64179 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​̸̸̼͚͇̮͕̳̞̤̜̯̪̪̱̣̠̺̹͍̩̝͚͕͓͚̙͓̪̮̟̜̣͙̪̂ͭ̎̏̔ͦ͒ͪ͌̾ͦͨ̚̚͢͢͠ͅ҉̴̢_͙̣͎͎͙̪̪̝̖͉̟̭̻̥̫̗̱̗͍̳̦̮̟̲̥͔̿̊ͣ̉ͣͪ͒̓̐͊̏ͫ̓̚̚҉̕͜͠͠҉̡̧̛͞/̼͚͇̮͕̘̳̞̤̜̯̪̘̪̱̣̠̺̹͍̩̝͚͕͓͚̙͓̪̮̟̜̣͙̪̂ͭ̎̏̔ͦ͒ͪ͌̾ͦͨ̚̚͢͢͠ͅ҉̴̢_̿̊ͣ̉ͣͪ͒̓ < 1436557740 728951 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ​̚_̿̊�͎͎/̂̚ < 1436557742 244302 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0020 SPACE] [U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE] [U+031A COMBINING LEFT ANGLE ABOVE] [U+005F LOW LINE] [U+033F COMBINING DOUBLE OVERLINE] [U+030A COMBINING RING ABOVE] [U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CHARACTER] [U+034E COMBINING UPWARDS ARROW BELOW] [U+034E COMBINING UPWARDS ARROW BELOW] [U+002F SOLIDUS] [U+031A COMBINING LEFT ANGLE ABOVE] [U+0302 COMBINING CIRCUMF < 1436557751 405186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436557754 174956 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexham/Hexham es la ciudad mas importante de programación esotérico < 1436557759 984585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/hexham < 1436557764 527134 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull elliott ais523 ais523 elliott FreeFull oerjan FreeFull oerjan FreeFull Taneb elliott oerjan shachaf oerjan < 1436557806 566883 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits ​̚_̿̊�͎͎ < 1436557807 914373 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436557816 601134 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/ ​̚_̿̊�͎͎ < 1436557817 997932 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436557829 815268 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/_̿̊�͎͎ < 1436557831 145832 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436557836 385767 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever :/ < 1436557901 700402 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian JOIN :#esoteric < 1436557911 89474 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/​̸̸̼͚͇̮͕̳̞̤̜̯̪̪̱̣̠̺̹͍̩̝͚͕͓͚̙͓̪̮̟̜̣͙̪̂ͭ̎̏̔ͦ͒ͪ͌̾ͦͨ̚̚͢͢͠ͅ҉̴̢_͙̣̿̊ͣ̉ͣͪ͒̓̐͊̏ͫ̓̚̚�͎͎͙̪̪̝̖͉̟̭̻̥̫̗̱̗͍̳̦̮̟̲̥͔҉̕͜͠͠҉̡̧̛͞ < 1436557912 481473 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436557935 455010 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo wisdom/*͠* < 1436557936 12672 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/*͠* < 1436557943 68154 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo wisdom/*͠* < 1436557944 558650 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/̸̸̼͚͇̮͕̳̞̤̜̯̪̪̱̣̠̺̹͍̩̝͚͕͓͚̙͓̪̮̟̜̣͙̪̂ͭ̎̏̔ͦ͒ͪ͌̾ͦͨ̚̚͢͢͠ͅ҉̴̢_͙̣͎͎͙̪̪̝̖͉̟̭̻̥̫̗̱̗͍̳̦̮̟̲̥͔̿̊ͣ̉ͣͪ͒̓̐͊̏ͫ̓̚̚҉̕͜͠͠҉̡̧̛͞ < 1436557960 1055 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits $(echo wisdom/*͠*) < 1436557961 698342 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull guestbot < 1436558019 744672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an advantage to foo $(echo ...) over foo ...? < 1436558077 885745 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm, no. < 1436558174 329372 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny. I just didn't think about what echo does at all while feeding its output as an argument to culprits < 1436558259 738318 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sometimes wish sh didn't have < and > < 1436558269 958618 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And instead you used processes with pipes to get the same functionality. < 1436558290 459575 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :read in | foo | write out < 1436558317 379617 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you can write < in foo > out < 1436558335 629928 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1436558349 663568 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main reason I want it to be that way is so people would stop complaining when you type "cat in | ..." < 1436558359 168572 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and besides it'd be really inefficient. < 1436558371 859285 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, tee would just be a flag to write, instead of its own process. < 1436558374 381506 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's silly to complain about that really. < 1436558389 153066 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they would still complain < 1436558395 302666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be inefficient enough that it wouldn't be a great idea, but probably not terrible for most uses. < 1436558470 762369 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :at some point I ended up doing cat | ... because the ... part tested whether stdin is a terminal. < 1436558489 725629 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION forgot the precise circumstances < 1436558585 537482 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hash 2346ad27d7568ba9896f1b7da6b5991251debdf2 < 1436558589 392530 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hash 2346ad27d7568ba9896f1b7da6b5991251debdf2 < 1436558594 328596 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hash < 1436558595 304644 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hash? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1436558746 906423 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436558777 617742 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does culprits list so many people for http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/log/070977d66f58/wisdom/_%CC%86%CC%93%CC%B0_%CC%CC%85%CD%AD%CD%AD%CD%AC%CC%A6%CC%BB%CC%96%CD%8D%CC%9F%CC%96%CD%A1_%CD%A7%CD%92%CC%90%CD%89%CC%AD_%CD%82%CD%8B%CD%92%CD%A7%CD%8B%CC%CC%8B%CC%AF%CD%99%CC%AC%CC%AC%CC%A6%CC%AF_%CC%94%CC%89%CC%85%CD%A8%CC%9D%CC%B4%CD%9E ? < 1436558784 216753 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436558839 651467 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/ants < 1436558841 286991 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436558846 94956 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/ant < 1436558847 663946 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e < 1436558985 973171 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh that was part of the Lilax episode. < 1436558995 715601 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/ant < 1436558999 101212 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436559141 310652 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:8d3e:6bc4:7637:526d QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436559145 561816 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1436559166 332792 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:2cf1:b7ed:7b84:2ad6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436559221 112377 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1436559224 844895 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :lel < 1436559604 506767 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/phantom_* < 1436559605 80956 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: wisdom/phantom_*: No such file or directory < 1436559608 620590 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat wisdom/phantom_* < 1436559613 858731 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom Michael Hoover is a true Scotsman, hatheist, and completely out of the loop. \ Phantom__Hoover can't decide what an appropriate number of underscores is. \ Phantom___Hoover sucks at ghosting himself. \ It doesn't get any better than this. \ OK you got me there. \ Your soundcard works perfectly. < 1436559842 888945 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's=$= They get eaten by poets in stone dens.' wisdom/lion < 1436559843 498843 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 43: unterminated `s' command < 1436559852 699033 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's=$= They get eaten by poets in stone dens.=' wisdom/lion < 1436559855 323203 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436560416 996961 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436560529 192289 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lion < 1436560529 870547 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lions are the catamorphisms of the animal world. They get eaten by poets in stone dens. < 1436560548 682353 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that's what learn_append is for hth < 1436560670 973418 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436560687 687992 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wouldn't have worked. I'd have needed a le/rn_append < 1436560744 296312 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait...a hatheist? < 1436560771 70883 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1436561200 717367 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Are you sure? < 1436561216 989932 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/learn_append < 1436561219 490806 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed 's/^\(an\?\|the\) //;s/s\? .*//') \ stuff=$(echo "$1" | cut -d' ' -f2-) \ perl -i -p -e 's/\n/ /' "wisdom/$topic" \ echo "$stuff" >>"wisdom/$topic" \ echo -n "Learned '$topic': " \ cat "wisdom/$topic" < 1436561223 275740 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: note the "They" < 1436561262 704213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append lions blah blah blah < 1436561264 862892 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'lion': Lions are the catamorphisms of the animal world. They get eaten by poets in stone dens. blah blah blah < 1436561269 68815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1436561276 342779 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. < 1436561280 307726 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1436561295 59432 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lions < 1436561295 812367 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lions are the catamorphisms of the animal world. They get eaten by poets in stone dens. < 1436561309 141525 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, thanks... maybe next time. < 1436561323 637812 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :le/rn is so good < 1436561328 52828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not as good as mk < 1436561355 214221 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hatesgeo < 1436561355 908490 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ perl -n -e '/:(.*?)!.*JOIN/; $j{$1}++; END {print "$_ $j{$_};" for sort {$j{$b} <=> $j{$a}} keys %j}' $@ < 1436561459 305626 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? goat < 1436561460 627290 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goats are drunk 24/7, ask Solain for details. < 1436561484 447388 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it sorts people by how frequently they join. which made sense back when hackego had access to channel logs < 1436561641 307654 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436561646 224280 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk a//blah//c < 1436561648 393147 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1436561651 836424 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat a < 1436561652 388761 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah//c < 1436561656 121493 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1436561656 686998 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1436561898 370144 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:2cf1:b7ed:7b84:2ad6 QUIT :Quit: Left < 1436561913 219584 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:2cf1:b7ed:7b84:2ad6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436562525 115732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/mkx < 1436562529 795363 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :key=$(mk "$@") && echo "$key" && chmod +x "$key" < 1436562531 441316 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :too good < 1436562551 869226 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436562555 386712 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why doesn't that have quotes around the $()? < 1436562768 357434 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1436562773 560464 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/mk < 1436562777 689621 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett shachaf shachaf shachaf shachaf < 1436562781 709317 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/mkx < 1436562783 93366 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett shachaf < 1436562793 98026 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits le/rn < 1436562795 448451 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf oerjan shachaf < 1436562806 435130 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/learn < 1436562807 906310 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan elliott oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan shachaf shachaf shachaf elliott elliott nitia < 1436562931 650057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/slashlearn < 1436562933 11808 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett shachaf shachaf shachaf shachaf < 1436562961 778588 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is tswett all over these logs? < 1436562966 367308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --removed bin/mk | grep tswett < 1436562967 718194 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: revert \ summary: rm bin -r < 1436562974 564494 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah tdnh < 1436563184 572495 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436563257 178443 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went to Austria and saw this town called Vomp < 1436563310 965879 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jmm, seen the name; it's near Innsbruck. < 1436563314 588791 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Hmm. < 1436563387 42718 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vomp < 1436563392 677056 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this name is so stupid that I keep repeating it in my mind weeks after seeing the town < 1436563400 575096 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1436565096 926076 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :vomit < 1436565509 276973 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436565651 315339 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436566156 74430 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As a closing note, it was sickening to see some of the things redditors wrote about Ellen. [1] The reduction in compassion that happens when we’re all behind computer screens is not good for the world. People are still people even if there is Internet between you." < 1436566247 318192 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436566947 124598 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436567211 14991 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436567235 502538 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still laghing on how the http://www.norwegian.com/ airline has special rules for transporting a double bass as checked baggage. < 1436567250 819812 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it sort of makes sense, but stil. < 1436567260 19678 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Airline rules are always funny. < 1436567556 741005 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436567765 726687 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436568441 115286 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436568467 849185 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436568673 30223 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436569052 114602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1436569235 426044 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436569248 535960 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1436569317 52353 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:2cf1:b7ed:7b84:2ad6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436569376 933903 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436569678 465158 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436569751 18683 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:9c7a:a9a:fdb5:5596 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436570046 246680 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:9c7a:a9a:fdb5:5596 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436571344 812109 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436572198 373893 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1436572451 185052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 my instincts are that the busy beaver problem is decidable in a primitive recursive language <-- s/primitive recursive/terminating/, and almost trivially so < 1436572451 288485 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1436572683 199412 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I give you a program and promise you that it's terminating, what can you decide about it? < 1436572716 699446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything i can find out by running it until it terminates... < 1436572751 203672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can't decide e.g. whether it implements the identity function. < 1436572766 969324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :true. < 1436572815 644222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well < 1436572821 725681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :On an infinite domain. < 1436572854 392004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :plausible, but needs a proof < 1436572875 524113 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if I give you a program and promise you that it implements a computable real? < 1436572875 630861 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly just some theorem i don't remember < 1436572894 53178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm right... < 1436572916 231369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess now my question is "what can you decide about the real", rather than "what can you decide about the program". < 1436572922 604862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And the answer is nothing, of course.) < 1436573085 446060 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436573249 858084 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the busy shachaf problem decidable? < 1436573276 171018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf is always busy, Q.E.D. < 1436573320 368021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1436573322 321558 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. < 1436573336 276625 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently i have some free time on weekends < 1436573432 593046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 I don't even know that the primitive recursive functions are what the type system encodes <-- note that if you have higher-order functions, things that look like primitive/structural recursion can be much more powerful. e.g. we discussed that the goodstein sequence can be computed in System F. < 1436573432 647444 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1436573479 569472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 (and someone i don't remember the nick of implemented it in non-recursive haskell) < 1436573479 708961 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1436573494 282003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: was it you twh < 1436573531 163146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's a very busy cosplay hth < 1436573602 614456 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My life improved when I stopped writing commas after "e.g." and "i.e.". < 1436573604 920198 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's next? < 1436573618 30798 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"eg" and "ie"? Or is that going too far? < 1436573635 898246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nn:eg = en:I, hth < 1436573888 875933 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436573915 96311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :their killing are bots < 1436573982 319309 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nn:ie = en:? < 1436574033 206306 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :en:hth = nn:? < 1436574037 960707 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :en:N.B. = nb:? < 1436574064 524111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :en:hth = nn:hth, en:N.B. = nb:N.B. < 1436574086 189442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :N.B. is latin, after all < 1436574141 237318 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait duh < 1436574151 903897 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :en:hth = nn:hdh < 1436574156 491595 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1436574162 330036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bot < 1436574168 465579 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1436574195 238426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(håper det(te) hjelper) < 1436574216 912178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i'm not sure of the ending of that last word < 1436574269 958123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's correct < 1436574304 796650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means it's identicall in nb and nn, hth < 1436574308 328701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-l < 1436574360 84912 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436574363 886214 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :firefly/FireFly was a short-running but well-loved sci-fi TV series released in 2003, starring Nathan Fillion and directed and written by Joss Whedon. < 1436574381 310209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nn could also be håpar < 1436574451 466557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm "vonar" would be more stereotypically nn < 1436574457 470803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :vdh < 1436574489 646807 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is better, nb or nn < 1436574527 543388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nn for poetry, nb for technical stuff vdh < 1436574572 18447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :vdh? < 1436574576 64629 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1436574593 738961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless, like i did, you come upon an early 20th century nn popular science treatise on angle trisection < 1436574611 559958 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was really something < 1436574824 151547 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is poetry translated from nn to en better than poetry translated from nb to en < 1436574847 592637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea, i don't particularly read poetry < 1436574871 37650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm not sure i've ever seen poetry translated from norwegian to english < 1436575113 393099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :♫ du skal ikkje sova bort sumarnatta ♫ ho er for ljos til det... ♫ < 1436575134 647822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ups < 1436575139 125293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/du/vi/ < 1436575289 136906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION had no idea that lyrics had a depressing backstory < 1436575301 851372 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we shall eek sofa bort Sumatra, oh err for loss till death? < 1436575313 656705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :death was involved, yes < 1436575315 860035 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my ungoogled attempt at translating that thing.) < 1436575334 923480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although not _in_ the lyrics afair) < 1436575350 324675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:26 (håper det(te) hjelper) < 1436575364 99980 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan seems obsessed with death < 1436575364 205788 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a sofa bort, and why does it need to be from Sumatra? < 1436575369 252813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe all norwegians are < 1436575380 77715 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :given how often they talk about it < 1436575398 627951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no:det,dette = en:the,that,this hth < 1436575414 746349 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(neuter gender) < 1436575461 83025 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely you mean "no:det,dette vdh = en:the,that,this hth" < 1436575466 530137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the "the" usage is often elided) < 1436575487 83512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: vdh is nn, not nb hth < 1436575500 383385 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said "no" < 1436575512 751695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i assume is some sort of union < 1436575513 601244 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, if I understand correctly, the lyrics mourn the loss of a Sumatran sofa bort? < 1436575536 817277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps sumarnatta is more like a summer night < 1436575539 68684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: which could have been why i left out vdh < 1436575563 649472 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ikkje seems suspiciously dutch < 1436575567 991620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ♫ ding ding ding ♫ < 1436575587 822923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, _the_ summer night) < 1436575617 118170 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we shall little-Dutch-thing something something on the summer night, oh is for loss until that? < 1436575727 376975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :google translate is pretty bad, i see < 1436575794 449222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well technically the words it fails worst at are those that are strictly nn < 1436575824 366799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it got a couple < 1436575866 379381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we shall not sleep away the summer night, it is too bright for that hth < 1436575930 975962 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so nn:for is en:far. tdh. < 1436575948 224605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um no? < 1436575955 30860 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what part is “not,” what's “sleep” and what's “away”? < 1436575962 952311 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAURGH! < 1436575969 10856 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I abdicate. < 1436575970 386929 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ikkje, sova, bort, hth < 1436575972 4537 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pouts < 1436576005 856414 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so nn:for is en:for? < 1436576018 702141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be < 1436576029 119219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although technically it was nn:til in the above < 1436576044 27771 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION facedesks < 1436576053 442558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... < 1436576063 975013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nn:for = en:too, in this case < 1436576078 778708 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*facedesk* *facedesk* *facedesk* < 1436576094 277331 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're both germanic languages, the word order isn't _that_ different. < 1436576106 445773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except when it is.) < 1436576187 342102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives boily some headache pills < 1436576215 191976 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION accepts the pills with gratitude < 1436576246 536694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :norwegian prepositions are about as insane as english ones, and _not_ corresponding insanities, either < 1436576308 164972 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still a proponent of a Japonorwegian merger. sane, immuable, logical particles instead of abhorrent prepositions. < 1436576335 437375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you implying that japanese is sane tdnh < 1436576348 713629 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: apart from a suspicious lack of vowels, are there any unmanageable grammatical points in Hebrew too? < 1436576355 680954 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: uuuuh... yes? < 1436576398 966186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i believe the main insanity of hebrew is that most of the grammar resides in the unwritten vowels hth < 1436576425 397403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is shared with other semitic languages such as arabic) < 1436576428 974955 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436576493 36713 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although iirc not _all_ vowels are unwritten) < 1436576556 193838 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Points? < 1436576603 505729 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :insane verb conjugations? insane irregularities? insane prepositions? insane grammatical numbers? < 1436576632 981027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: have i previously mentioned that for geographical place names in norwegian, you need to learn individually whether the preposition corresponding to en:in is no:i or no:på hth < 1436576657 709784 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you didn't. now you did. this is scaring my fungotless. < 1436576657 836858 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: breaches of intermediate severity. while a sentence of this distribution, no distribution occurs. < 1436576679 15177 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1436576679 116743 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora* alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1436576683 217807 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: stop being sentient, but thanks for supporting me. < 1436576683 320618 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ( b) a list of who owns land may only be changed except as < 1436576708 796214 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can fungot have a style based on the US Internal Revenue Code twh < 1436576708 898891 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: iv) the political status of any legal significance, the notary shall declare the most < 1436576717 4369 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436576868 645204 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it turns out ^style irc is v. different < 1436577007 937769 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436577061 373341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: of course this is in addition to having to learn the gender of every noun, but as a french-speaker you're already used to that. < 1436577154 477576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't Norwegian have that too? < 1436577164 833595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i was speaking about norwegian < 1436577177 541608 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with already inherently knowing the gender of nouns, is that when you're learning another language with them there are plenty of jarring mishaps hth < 1436577185 304945 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I thought that was still about Hebrew. < 1436577199 828507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Norwegian has three genders, right? < 1436577204 100979 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can still be about Hebrew. it has genders, right? < 1436577207 998408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which reminds me that iirc, in hebrew, the word for answering machine is the masculine form of the word for secretary. very politically correct. < 1436577238 582228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes < 1436577275 799975 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: have not encountered that < 1436577291 638074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they changed it < 1436577302 901934 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :«un secrétaire» can be a kind of furniture, on top of it secretary meaning. < 1436577330 236017 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(whereas «une secrétaire» is always a woman whose job is being a secretary.) < 1436577345 695746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand hebrew has all sorts of things < 1436577354 848569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know the word for husband was the same as the word for owner < 1436577421 877564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1436577426 499664 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gack! < 1436577600 271986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also recall that in german, the way to be gender neutral about job titles is to use both forms with a slash. in norwegian we've mostly just decided to redefine job titles as being gender neutral whenever sensible regardless of grammatical gender. < 1436577671 391335 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :feminine forms are a little bit irregular. docteur/docteure, acteur/actrice, boulanger/boulangère... < 1436577680 16826 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: next up do that for all other words twh < 1436577820 278557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although many, but not all titles ending in -mann or -søster have been replaced. the progressive party famously still calls used to call its leader "formann" rather than "leder". < 1436577854 718669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently they changed in 2009, 3 years after they got a female one. < 1436577966 272275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :many job titles would previously have added a feminine -inne ending, which was the closest thing to a grammatical variation. < 1436577978 771651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which german still does with -in) < 1436578078 984526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall some bible verse using the actual word "manninne" for woman, i don't think it's ever been used elsewhere < 1436578125 514201 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Genesis 2:23 < 1436578172 324706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume in hebrew like in english, the usual word for woman is actually related to the usual word for man < 1436578182 959284 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not the case in norwegian. < 1436578207 5749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the translaters had a bit of trouble with that verse, i assume < 1436578211 68355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*o < 1436578260 216395 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A translater is one who transes a long time after the fact. < 1436578262 910888 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'translater': A translater is one who transes a long time after the fact. < 1436578280 476135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? transformer < 1436578281 184664 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :transformer? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1436578302 154982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A transformer is one who used to transe, but no longer does. < 1436578304 76060 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'transformer': A transformer is one who used to transe, but no longer does. < 1436578309 58558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1436578314 665982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A transformer is one who used to trans, but no longer does. < 1436578316 404813 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'transformer': A transformer is one who used to trans, but no longer does. < 1436578360 519940 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: genesis 2:23 uses two different words for man, it seems < 1436578384 624283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but your assumption is correct < 1436578451 923652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, fancy: http://mathoverflow.net/q/211159 < 1436578721 958869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute < 1436578819 790231 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PAISLEY CHICKEN < 1436578992 224277 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian JOIN :#esoteric < 1436579359 764161 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1436579558 793300 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436579627 644780 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Client Quit < 1436580409 800684 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436580676 758880 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436580840 767965 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436581125 740439 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436581274 421407 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gender neutral is bleh. They should just have 3 forms: male female and plural and use the plural for gender neutral like "they". < 1436581392 183102 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless norwegian doesn't use neutral-plural for neutral-singular? < 1436581407 973477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: norwegian doesn't actually have a "gender neutral" pronoun for persons. < 1436581436 392896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :grammatical gender is scow < 1436581468 370607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pronoun of "neutral" gender applies strictly to _nouns_ of that grammatical gender, which has nothing consistently to do with any biological issue < 1436581508 249519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. en:house = no:hus, the latter is neuter, so takes pronoun "det". < 1436581535 186932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moreover, there's a separate non-neuter pronoun "den", used for non-persons. < 1436581544 178959 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well maybe they could avoid problems by calling it grammatical color instead < 1436581551 721623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(masculine and feminine is often not distinguished) < 1436581605 573613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact in danish, there is no grammatical masculine/feminine apart from the personal pronouns < 1436581625 59152 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the distinction between neuter/non-neuter still exists, though < 1436581673 731803 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's the opposite of what happened in most romance languages < 1436581674 676674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :swedish and dutch are similar i think < 1436581699 774891 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than merging neuter and masculine, they merged masculine and feminine < 1436581719 99524 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1436581744 948535 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1436581909 243802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: yep < 1436581925 284825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436581944 355829 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :homestuck/Homestuck is a cult religion for disaffected teens. Gamzee drives the bus. Best summarized by http://www.mspaintadventures.com/storyfiles/hs2/05743.gif < 1436582272 904193 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436582549 804817 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436583597 511523 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436583599 628177 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomgmodules/ZOMGMODULES is both a small blonde veterinarian and just modules over the ring of ZOMGs. < 1436583606 479272 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1436583611 399649 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1436585475 557656 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Boolfuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43449&oldid=30839 5* 03Phase 5* (+892) 10Differences from Brainfuck & Examples < 1436585679 742977 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Boolfuck14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43451&oldid=43449 5* 03Phase 5* (-345) 10Remove unneeded text < 1436585896 888501 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1436585978 521197 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Refract14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43452&oldid=43443 5* 03Phase 5* (+41) 10/* Paradigms */ Add refract paradigms < 1436586140 316666 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Refract14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43453&oldid=43452 5* 03Phase 5* (+33) 10Add link to other header < 1436586179 434286 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Refract14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43454&oldid=43453 5* 03Phase 5* (-33) 10Undo revision 43453 by [[Special:Contributions/Phase|Phase]] ([[User talk:Phase|talk]]) < 1436586187 491890 :Froo!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1436586205 648550 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436586264 16395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` allquotes | tail -1 < 1436586265 261885 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1246) (on another note, I love the way that the standard way to indicate that you get a reference is to make a different obscure reference to the same thing) < 1436586275 523434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use the Banach-Tarski theorem." < 1436586280 944233 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1247) Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use the Banach-Tarski theorem." < 1436586311 862079 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Argh14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43455 5* 03Phase 5* (+19) 10Redirect "Argh" to "Argh!" < 1436586322 282339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote tarski < 1436586322 851332 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :933) sometimes i am confronted with a problem and i think "I know, I'll use Banach-Tarski" \ 1247) Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use the Banach-Tarski theorem." < 1436586338 893866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1436586341 295892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1436586350 636299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: YOU PLAGIARIST < 1436586351 541692 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1436586373 568958 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god dammit I can escape homestuck < 1436586378 613555 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit* < 1436586387 710126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly lexande was the first person ever to think that < 1436586395 116505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walpurgisnacht: actually "dammit" is correct < 1436586420 690147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i suspect you're missing a "not" somewhere < 1436586436 423224 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who are you to say what's correct < 1436586440 663207 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :prescriptivist < 1436586454 467135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: someone told me on the internet QED < 1436586493 163015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2012-01-20#i_5022203 < 1436586509 733943 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, a tweet < 1436586541 864884 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well tweets cannot be original context, that's clearly absurd < 1436586565 24072 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm hungry what shall i eat twh < 1436586576 163475 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was correct < 1436586600 148146 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well now I can tell all those people who mis corrected me to shove off < 1436586660 480308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm not good with vegetarian cuisine < 1436586668 575465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an apple perhaps? < 1436586678 615189 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ate two apples today. < 1436586681 946448 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you eat in Norway < 1436586698 596186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose bread counts as vegetarian. < 1436586702 355459 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Food? I assume < 1436586704 940879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walpurgisnacht: lots of chicken < 1436586709 527283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also whales < 1436586710 129967 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1436586748 689868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "official" national dish is sheep in cabbage, when people don't ironically say pizza < 1436586752 954505 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just eat idk whatever is put in front of me thats organic < 1436586781 473756 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then which country has that really stinky dish < 1436586852 195750 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's ironic? < 1436586863 266682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard Norwegian pizza was the best in the world. < 1436586889 382635 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thousand flees on your camels, google, why are you stealing my arrow keys < 1436586946 557946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fleas < 1436587045 204484 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which arrow keys? < 1436587069 263826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ones that normally allow me to scroll my browser < 1436587082 282967 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are they going up and down in search results? < 1436587085 708266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1436587105 810358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You used to be able to toggle that by pressing tab. < 1436587110 999837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1436587112 150927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess that doesn't work anymore. < 1436587122 278268 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you still use the pageup/pagedown key to scroll the browser window? < 1436587129 457635 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't know, i only noticed it now < 1436587140 800751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i could use my touchpad scroll < 1436587207 124100 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it doesn't _normally_ happened, it was probably a side effect of me selecting special preferences to rule out new results < 1436587211 5932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*happen < 1436587252 637077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are you supposed to select search results without that feature? < 1436587279 305239 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walpurgisnacht: i'm sure every country has a really stinky dish < 1436587323 620183 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stru something < 1436587334 666676 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: with the mouse i guess? < 1436587336 759750 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its like a can of fermented fish < 1436587348 52410 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no thanks < 1436587366 355722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walpurgisnacht: that's probably swedish surströmming < 1436587370 20988 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selecting by numbers seem would better? < 1436587374 728583 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya < 1436587376 631137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes I click links by pressing C-f and typing a substring of the link and then pressing Esc and then pressing Enter. < 1436587391 153891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember when Enter was called Return? < 1436587397 561966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well if they actually showed the numbers... < 1436587444 729863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walpurgisnacht: however, icelandic hákarl has also been mentioned on previous occasions < 1436587457 679674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(poisonous fermented shark) < 1436587463 201236 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jfc < 1436587478 940888 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it good???? what are the reviews < 1436587518 42332 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't tasted either and have no plans not to run away fast if offered < 1436587525 316364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like lutefisk, though < 1436587574 447143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i've probably not tasted lutefisk since i first joined this channel... < 1436587587 840166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid time passing < 1436587751 689414 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436587773 171958 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436588033 591339 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "now we have two quotes" < 1436588262 383915 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...... < 1436588298 5204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1436588299 624873 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1436588311 929804 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1436588312 25410 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1436588319 374637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` allquotes | tail -1 < 1436588324 614828 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1247) Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use the Banach-Tarski theorem." < 1436588342 625160 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07€14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43456 5* 03Phase 5* (+1570) 10Create € < 1436588546 172151 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07€14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43457&oldid=43456 5* 03Phase 5* (+3008) 10Add interpreter < 1436588672 909308 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.hevanet.com/cristofd/sequence.txt don't you think this is confusing? < 1436588781 77377 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just need to write those numbers in Taneb's notation. < 1436588804 69059 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why 0??? D: < 1436588848 514647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (2^) 0 < 1436588849 978554 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,2,4,16,65536,2003529930406846464979072351560255750447825475569751419265... < 1436588866 550883 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :where does 0 come from < 1436588876 398449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: ^ < 1436588900 14429 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i asked it after seeing the output from lambdabot < 1436588919 906294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you have to start somewhere < 1436588956 300037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think 0 may be the only complex number which isn't on any 2^z branch < 1436588970 507185 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1436588973 461510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1436588979 749982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :2^z is entire, no branches < 1436588998 339490 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean lg z < 1436589023 292240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that has the corresponding branches < 1436589065 310001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm now i wonder if there are any loops < 1436589127 995667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously no real ones < 1436589230 485202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, 0 is the only number which isn't of the form 2^z < 1436589282 27590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1436589310 90918 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> exp (0.3181315 :+ negate 1.337235) < 1436589311 547042 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.31813244152704157 :+ (-1.3372354713231642) < 1436589317 553360 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> log (0.3181315 :+ negate 1.337235) < 1436589319 132219 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.318131007887779 :+ (-1.3372355870099664) < 1436589324 98036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks Jafet < 1436589329 365052 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Jafet. Thafet. < 1436589342 29275 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thatematica. < 1436589410 32550 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1436589545 597089 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436589545 953014 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436590195 974181 :YokeOfIdea!~yokeofide@208.98.61.2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1436590266 896290 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1436590805 109074 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436591271 936224 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1436593417 806409 :Froo!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436593538 787873 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1436594283 800748 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436594532 554200 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436594553 720607 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1436594704 527782 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436594884 549374 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436594893 158266 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1436595328 721134 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hello < 1436595359 254080 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, I have a notation? < 1436595424 673224 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I do have a notation < 1436595451 93833 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1436595451 981763 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Go, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, and this sentence. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1436595461 711024 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? this sentence < 1436595464 962027 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This sentence was not invented by Taneb. Taneb invented it. < 1436595481 8124 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/was not/was/' wisdom/'this sentence' < 1436595484 528625 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436595524 286870 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, that was the joke < 1436595531 812320 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was? < 1436595536 884659 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :The contradiction < 1436595539 880207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh IE actually displays mongolian vertical script < 1436595542 825611 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making that wisdom a paradox < 1436595549 923341 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/'this sentence' | grep summary: < 1436595552 163691 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: ` sed -i \'s/was not/was/\' wisdom/\'this sentence\' \ summary: ` sed -i \'s/was/was not/\' wisdom/this\\ sentence \ summary: echo >wisdom/this\\ sentence \'This sentence was invented by Taneb. Taneb invented it.\' < 1436595597 995555 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I preferred it with the not, and seeing as I invented it, I should have final say) < 1436595619 447083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1436595626 145661 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure you're not the top authority on Tanebventions around here. < 1436595636 400038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course not, that's me hth < 1436595640 521403 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1436595647 423884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At any rate, the sentence you invented is whichever one is in the wisdom. < 1436595648 240999 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? this sentence < 1436595663 905891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason I changed it back was that the "not" seemed kind of hostile. < 1436595665 103989 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This sentence was not invented by Taneb. Taneb invented it. < 1436595671 402277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb seems like more of a mellow kind of person. < 1436595765 800961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do you have a cat to keep in your lap while looking mellow twh < 1436595778 423517 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I do not < 1436595792 814776 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :If necessary I can probably borrow one < 1436595794 282450 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "ll" isn't pronounced that way in english hth < 1436595801 623454 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're thinking of spanish < 1436595809 635966 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a dog, though < 1436595814 36727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What! < 1436595819 197873 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Taneb dog? < 1436595819 413449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what about a shark tank to calmly meditate upon? < 1436595823 362521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1436595835 487660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess sharks and dogs don't go well together < 1436595846 850969 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I also have one of those toy sharks IKEA sells < 1436595878 879071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1436595885 875549 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ikea.us redirects straight to the US site < 1436595898 285323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. fancy < 1436595972 520788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to actually _being_ the US site? < 1436595992 712920 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, ikea.com takes you to the site selection page < 1436596114 113066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Why are flights SF<->NY so expensive this time of year? < 1436596122 966449 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, holiday season < 1436596127 60079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it looks like they've discontinued BLÅHAJ < 1436596127 302234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you're our expert on flight prices. < 1436596134 626117 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, WAT < 1436596167 430308 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07TrivialBrainfuckSubstitution14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43458&oldid=43437 5* 03Rdebath 5* (-208) 10Reverting, see talk < 1436596175 12143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it didn't give an ikea link < 1436596180 444130 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:TrivialBrainfuckSubstitution14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43459&oldid=41132 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+2682) 10/* I deleted the count. */ new section < 1436596187 398774 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1436596265 767061 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: for future reference, i don't know a lick of haskell. i can sort of read it based on prolog experience, but i can't category theory worth a damn and i can barely read the types < 1436596278 174800 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ikea.com/ms/de_DE/img/local_store_info/koblenz/pdf_files/Wunschzettel_web.pdf < 1436596303 268695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: OKAY < 1436596315 77084 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you're no longer a suspect, then < 1436596332 116466 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/IKEA/comments/1xuthy/any_hope_on_getting_blåhaj_back_in_production/ < 1436596337 152765 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, yes, in my notation, those numbers have quite nice representation < 1436596351 715807 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your notation? < 1436596407 450905 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ikea.com/ae/en/catalog/categories/departments/childrens_ikea/18740/ < 1436596410 787213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the shark tdnh < 1436596437 353088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you probably forgot the quotes when googling, then it doesn't bother actually having it on the page hth < 1436596460 297623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I included the quotes. < 1436596465 878615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1436596482 677980 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in http://www.ikea.com/ae/en/catalog/productsaz/1/ < 1436596531 116703 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, consider a natural number < 1436596545 148827 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can express one as a bitstring of 1s and 0s in the usual way < 1436596565 553605 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can then express that string as a list of the distances between the 1s < 1436596586 664545 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :(eg 1011 becomes 0,1,0) < 1436596600 961676 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I start at the low bits for reasons < 1436596716 131338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Women have started participating in the archery and girls in the horse-racing games, but not in Mongolian wrestling." < 1436596788 323333 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:2912:4bd4:341b:8c23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436596844 238235 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, these distances can then be expressed as natural numbers with the same (now recursive) notation < 1436596856 530947 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I've heard this before. < 1436596858 695554 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it from you? < 1436597092 574785 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure he's explained it here < 1436597186 842168 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: wait, what's the notation for 0 < 1436597194 435738 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, empty list < 1436597206 224647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 1 < 1436597212 17747 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1436597232 442426 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 is [0] < 1436597238 472523 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :So [[]] < 1436597253 509238 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 is [1], so [[[]]] < 1436597262 900005 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 is [0,0], so [[],[]] < 1436597272 206883 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 is [2], so [[[[]]]] < 1436597284 259194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then your 1011 -> [0,1,0] cannot be right < 1436597310 368235 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I think it should be 1101 on the left < 1436597312 526527 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1436597313 236590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, this is your natural numbers as tree skeletons thing. < 1436597315 656396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I remember. < 1436597663 455450 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, those numbers in this notation become [], [[]], [[[]]], [[[[]]]], [[[[[]]]]] etc < 1436598397 3885 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436600990 913834 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436601468 630427 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Forth14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43460&oldid=26856 5* 03Phase 5* (+67) 10learnxinyminutes link < 1436601717 889757 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1436601795 907790 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :skeletonics < 1436602335 89986 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1436602348 717496 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was here the entire time? < 1436602586 878484 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436602819 272924 :relrod_!~relrod@104.131.193.156 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436602819 374903 :relrod_!~relrod@104.131.193.156 QUIT :Changing host < 1436602819 429121 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod JOIN :#esoteric < 1436602836 919671 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION chuckles < 1436602944 109364 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod NICK :relrod < 1436603520 342901 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436603536 419590 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436603764 703365 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any interesting esolangs lately? < 1436603889 360685 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is sleepy < 1436603933 491596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: why are us tax laws so complicated tdnh < 1436603935 893563 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you invent them < 1436603939 541122 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not < 1436603943 956864 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I did they would be simpler < 1436603946 441845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure < 1436603957 196614 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you made sure you filled in the box for illegal income < 1436603964 79053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? irc < 1436603964 734053 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC is short for "Internet Relay Chat". It is named so because all the servers are constructed from relays. < 1436603997 951769 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/irc | grep summary: < 1436603998 769122 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: learn IRC is short for "Internet Relay Chat". It is named so because all the servers are constructed from relays. \ summary: revert \ summary: for x in wisdom/*; do rev "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ summary: learn irc is useless. < 1436604032 730853 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i don't have any illegal income as far as i know < 1436604049 814592 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you should declare that as such < 1436604074 895936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i declare illegal income is it still illegal? < 1436604155 939352 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but at least they won't get you for tax evasion < 1436604229 939159 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any server not constructed from relays? < 1436604320 933154 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, it's not called Internet Vacuum Tube Chat < 1436604778 493293 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-211.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436604895 691219 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha amusing < 1436604920 666599 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-211.rentec.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436605119 24242 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye < 1436605748 78332 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436606118 291963 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1436606212 130189 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:2912:4bd4:341b:8c23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436606237 99461 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:41a2:2690:fe67:2613 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436608828 915263 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436609086 905662 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436611267 976347 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:41a2:2690:fe67:2613 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436612482 965984 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436612739 926217 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436613405 994764 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1436613439 735559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION yawns < 1436613459 530909 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like this might be one of those skip-ahead-sleeping-cycle days < 1436613843 689593 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1436613947 839855 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1436614905 991145 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436615007 80759 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: QUINTHELLOPIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! < 1436615484 977643 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-154-145.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436615490 6081 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-154-145.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1436615636 948258 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-063.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1436616045 35654 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1436616063 601459 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436616063 655629 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1436616063 655686 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436616763 470954 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-078-249-063.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1436616878 744726 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436617037 965778 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436617320 904152 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436617623 679741 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1436617837 32355 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436617865 551381 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436618029 151497 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia Will be momentarily disappearing towards faraway lands. Be back in a few hours. Meanwhile, Steam will be installing the stuff that has to be installed. < 1436618029 242600 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1436618037 805843 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: TRIMMED CHICKEN < 1436618606 44933 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1436619908 503574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1436620667 903313 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1436621204 805056 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1436621256 118339 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1436623237 807626 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1436623571 401903 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436623850 368308 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436624463 291044 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PART #esoteric :"CANNIBALISTIC CHICKEN" < 1436624463 345313 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1436625040 211472 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436625065 18544 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436625647 233145 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436626919 564538 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good moring < 1436626935 163995 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroin < 1436627110 857047 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been programming in 6502 machine code < 1436627183 769217 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's fun to try to set up a subroutine such that jumping into the middle of an instruction gives you a different path. < 1436627210 18303 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lot of machine code < 1436627218 927803 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone still program in machine code < 1436627226 455286 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the people who write assemblers I guess < 1436627319 389531 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they probably write in assembly, then hand-translate it.. < 1436627364 88142 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably < 1436627365 378331 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1436627372 22930 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some nerds still do machine code I suppose < 1436627378 190784 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :To write old timey games < 1436627390 451808 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they do it for the thrill of writing machine code < 1436627417 144912 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really before I actually learned assembly < 1436627425 70211 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagined that assembly was p. much machine code < 1436627431 767430 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it turned out, it was pretty easy < 1436627442 433263 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has functions and variables < 1436627514 132059 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but 6502 machine code is much easier than other computers machine codes. < 1436627653 309029 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because every instruction is of one of 3 forms: ins, ins byte, ins word. < 1436627681 827436 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :where ins is one byte, byte is a data byte, and word is a little-endian data word < 1436627711 521987 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it do weird pipelining shit < 1436627733 631179 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :In x86, jumping into the middle of an instruction can not only be fun, but extremely profitable < 1436627760 689710 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah__: no. 6502 is strictly in-order < 1436627781 833983 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is good < 1436627805 345570 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Processors can pipeline strictly in-order < 1436627810 975994 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1436627816 593232 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence why I said weird pipelining shit < 1436627816 901706 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIPS, for example < 1436627821 356768 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of Proper Pipelining < 1436627832 675868 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom mips < 1436627833 988749 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out-of-order execution, then < 1436627837 809198 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mips/MIPS Is Popular in Schools. < 1436627851 81927 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 6502 < 1436627851 728229 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :heheh < 1436627851 831331 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :find: `wisdom/*6502*': No such file or directory \ /cat: : No such file or directory < 1436627861 386334 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom penis < 1436627862 128763 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :find: `wisdom/*penis*': No such file or directory \ /cat: : No such file or directory < 1436627864 721094 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIPS single delay slot after branches is tame though. < 1436627865 463940 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am said < 1436627869 342415 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :sad < 1436627871 758526 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436627872 556787 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomgmodules/ZOMGMODULES is both a small blonde veterinarian and just modules over the ring of ZOMGs. < 1436627974 430311 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_ordering#Runtime_memory_ordering < 1436628037 698300 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://asciinema.org/a/23275 <- does this happen only to me? < 1436628042 468799 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another technique I've been using to mod games is putting a subroutine into the graphics data, if I can find a part that is never acutally used < 1436628051 122531 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i asked a friend and he can't reproduce < 1436628082 449356 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like an embarrassing medical problem. < 1436628113 518532 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:c4c9:d167:e9a0:4420 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436628289 781550 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you mount a disk over a non-empty directory, and what happens if you do (I think I just accidentally did so) < 1436628338 87126 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The directory will point to the disk until it's unmounted. < 1436628404 813541 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A trickier question: do open file handles still work, and what does procfs say their filenames are?) < 1436628424 137826 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok good, I'll just unmount and mount to the correct place < 1436628450 856350 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm actually I'll first check < 1436628460 947871 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I can see the files, < 1436628470 723883 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the contents are fine < 1436628511 516591 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:3cbc:81f9:9c40:c882 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436628535 63477 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, do you mean files from before the disk was mounted? < 1436628545 21803 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: can't reproduce it either; a final empty line seems to get erased, but that's independent of HISTCONTROL < 1436628569 117329 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: "Dependent loads can be reordered (this is unique for Alpha)" I'm suddenly glad that nobody uses alpha64. < 1436628590 131941 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: thanks for the test < 1436628690 598439 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I believe the Linux kernel developers have lots of fun because of this :) < 1436628702 234041 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is a bit disappointed that Sparc is so tame these days... < 1436628780 3869 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If an SMP architecture had no mfence instructions, would it qualify as an esolang < 1436628784 570386 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo yes < 1436628956 303413 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :SMPAWNRMOC -- SMP architecture with no reliable means of communication? < 1436628983 342349 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, is it possible to maintain an operating system if you have IPIs and privileged mode but no fences < 1436628991 191542 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idea: a NES emulator that first cross-compiles to x64-opengl < 1436629005 19796 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then simply runs the program. < 1436629012 679850 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :go for it < 1436629039 171586 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would not work with my machine coded code, but perhaps many games would work < 1436629053 38992 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't NES games require cycle-accurate emulators? < 1436629070 824676 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends which games < 1436629106 393919 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some games would require the program to have a loop simulating scanlines and vbreaks, others just vbreaks. < 1436629170 351507 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The PPU (picture processing unit) is fairly advanced in the NES. < 1436629181 528563 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Atari, however... < 1436629254 944396 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe start by decompiling 6502 to qemu TCG < 1436630084 663027 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, it's possible to communicate by busy-waiting on a cache line, so there is a reliable, if stupid, means of communication < 1436630203 190949 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: that's assuming some amount of cache coherence. < 1436630366 542701 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it only assumes that the write from one core, if nothing else writes to the same memory, is eventually read by another core < 1436630461 109636 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way I was picturing it, the only way to force a memory read would be to read from a memory location that's not in the cache, and writing only happens on flushing cache lines; at the same time, the CPU is allowed to do arbitrary prefetching or write-back; I guess I would not allow it to write data that is inconsistent with its own cache state. < 1436630520 220357 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in the typical spin lock case, the CPU could just decide to never write back that cache line... < 1436630524 536336 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can force that by reading a number of cache lines larger than the cache size < 1436630538 574465 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can probe the cache size by reading 1 extra, then 2 extra, then 3 extra lines... < 1436630557 727185 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really, the evil CPU can decide to keep that cache line around just to spite you ;) < 1436630584 827021 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you actually need to use a memory area larger than the cache to force some write to go through < 1436630603 139923 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course I'm just aiming for nastiness here. < 1436630643 819373 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, then use a really large memory area for communicating a single bit < 1436630666 642652 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, you can communicate anything that fits in one line, copying it over and over.) < 1436630688 379669 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is starting to sound appropriately esoteric < 1436630781 413242 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but somehow boring :/ < 1436630931 260134 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the problem is, the cache size bounds the evilness of the memory bus < 1436631016 407064 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436631060 879657 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, here's an evil idea for single-threaded programs: At program start, set up the data area so that each memory cell has a randomly assigned buddy; updates to the memory cell will also update its buddy and vice versa... now write reliable programs on top of that. shouldn't be hard, but what kind of patterns would you use? < 1436631130 253788 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is inspired by an actual broken MFM drive I once had, with one address line broken... which confused the hell of a "disk repair" tool. good old times...) < 1436631203 563945 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1436631587 477258 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :To begin with, there are (n n/2)/2 possible sets of non-interfering cells, which could be represented in about 2n bits < 1436631695 363854 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So this might be more fun if each word has not much more than 4 bits < 1436631768 391963 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, make all registers also memory mapped < 1436631775 589183 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have buddies < 1436631802 424017 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One way in a 6502 code where jumping into the middle of an instruction might be useful is the case of a "clock slide" < 1436631924 357593 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know how to do 6502 programming. < 1436632170 614354 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A NES/Famicom emulator that doesn't emulate each cycle accurately is simply incorrect. However, there are many ways to make it incomplete without being incorrect, such as: * Don't play any audio (but you still need to implement the length counters and the DPCM timing and DPCM interference) * Omit implementations of some mappers * Omit implementation of some input devices * Run slower than realtime * Require only batch I/O < 1436632185 199816 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1436632286 544176 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436632424 128337 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be correct you must also implement all stable unofficial opcodes, and of any mappers you are implementing, even the features that were never used (although you can omit playback of expansion audio and therefore omit implementation of registers that affect only audio and don't affect interrupts or the reading of any other registers or whatever else) < 1436632542 454086 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1436632548 181308 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If T-Shirts don't do shit against the sun < 1436632564 624039 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then how come I have never gotten a sun burn on the part of the skin covered by a T-Shirt < 1436632577 567094 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that I wouldn't even need suncream < 1436632578 677102 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: [citation needed] < 1436632590 921684 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :WP on the other hand states that a white t-shirt has a pf of 10 < 1436632600 310575 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-078-249-063.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436632603 813800 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so since if've never got burnt while wearing a t-shirt < 1436632613 203118 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :this would indicate that you don't need pf >30 or even 50 < 1436632617 49083 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-063.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1436632622 197720 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so either way < 1436632625 685741 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody is lying like shit < 1436632637 286919 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-094-078.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1436632742 399053 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436632742 604434 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436632773 258003 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1436632788 940316 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://outdoors.stackexchange.com/questions/1226/whats-the-upf-of-a-t-shirt-or-jeans seems relevant < 1436633133 737974 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436633537 53265 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1436633804 490916 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:TrivialBrainfuckSubstitution14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43461&oldid=43459 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+1170) 10Unicode is not a valid assumption. < 1436634438 473736 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436634607 873039 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436634778 834512 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well yes, but *how* incorrect is it? To what degree do production NES games rely on length of instruction execution? For example, many games I've analyzed spend most of their time busywaiting for the VBreak. < 1436634923 313343 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: It doesn't matter; it is still incorrect, since then a program you write really strangely which is still valid but that nobody knows before, won't be executed correctly. < 1436635022 552488 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (30*30)/60 < 1436635024 7364 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 15.0 < 1436635031 464767 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's 15hours < 1436635051 637713 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suncream is all full of bullshit < 1436635075 975868 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436635077 526729 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436635098 10050 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually opt to use an umbrella on super sunny days < 1436635117 899202 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1436635117 953485 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1436635128 3906 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't do sports with an umbrella though. < 1436635130 372704 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436635141 219023 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a challenge. < 1436635203 117466 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also 10 UPF is 30 SPF < 1436635204 10467 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1436635214 960351 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a T-Shirt is as good as applying suncream with 30 SPF < 1436635258 856391 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_, t-shirt doesn't cover your nose < 1436635281 385604 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you're wearing it wrong < 1436635295 837679 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case it doesn't cover your chest < 1436635295 940344 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1436635308 513340 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and I normally use 50+ suncream) < 1436635318 266323 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to do sports outside with shirt off < 1436635328 171992 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my hyperchondriasis has gone worse < 1436635343 464038 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1436635346 720566 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's hyperchondriasis? < 1436635357 560537 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION away < 1436635374 628894 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hypo < 1436635403 765881 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hypochondriac: someone who constantly worries about geeting ill < 1436635411 767679 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/eet/ett/ < 1436635458 805710 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :call it heliophobia then . < 1436635473 675753 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use an umbrella because I burn easily. damned russian and irish genes. < 1436635484 759825 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: yes, but for mroman_ it's hyper. < 1436635501 775235 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! there was a hypocorrection I haven't seen. < 1436635505 1605 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also 10 UPF is 30 SPF <-- only because SPF factors tend to be inflated (assuming optimal application of probably insane amounts of sun cream) < 1436635534 552902 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. s/SPF factors/SPFs/. < 1436635622 186805 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the UPF of a completely opaque object? < 1436635662 189822 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some random positive integer. probably 5. < 1436635665 496785 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :good question, how much UVA is in vacuum radiation? ;-) < 1436636557 744521 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily. I'm gonna go for an hour or two now. Is the installation complete? < 1436636837 820901 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :redeeming my keys and downloading the stuff. < 1436636848 631945 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how far along is the install < 1436636856 506439 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :download i mean < 1436636864 612285 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :55% on borderlands 2, downloading at 1.2 MB/s. < 1436636877 520550 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an ETA or ETC in steam? < 1436636894 439689 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a progress bar in the downloads list < 1436636902 403987 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :utopia, bitopia (biotopia), tritopia, quadtopia, quintopia, sixtopia, heptopia, octatopia? < 1436636907 227490 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that much is there. < 1436636914 939407 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont see an eta < 1436636916 48941 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1436636920 511664 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :make your own estimate < 1436636930 954716 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION somehow never saw the "quint" in there before. < 1436636932 472874 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say... eh... probably somewhere in an hour, maybe 90 minutes. < 1436636964 944479 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :char-e, short-e, int-e, long-e too? < 1436636976 355061 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :double-e! < 1436636982 115705 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cummings) < 1436637001 464868 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would presuppose a float-e, and maybe an arbitrary-precision-e. < 1436637051 7419 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :bool-e < 1436637076 854196 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :xor-e < 1436637083 688578 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I guess I deserved that < 1436637084 681554 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xor-e? < 1436637097 193160 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :just correcting a type error. < 1436637149 702910 :nooga!~nooga@91.235.25.1 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1436637157 73466 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed int-e was an interrupt, not an integer. < 1436637670 190183 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you should read the ONUW I just played in. It was the most shocking game I've ever played. < 1436637693 6882 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1436638050 878674 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :question of the day: is int-e maskable? < 1436638066 578774 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: is it also on xkcd's forums? < 1436638091 371046 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1436638397 166706 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I don't think int-e is an interrupt. it's more like an integer or integral or internal or intrinsic or intricacy or integrity or something. < 1436638400 89493 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed int-e meant interrupt E out of 10 < 1436638432 295728 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like maybe some processor has 16 interrupt lines? < 1436638512 220004 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436639401 940451 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :_Complex int-e z; < 1436639415 650263 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436639429 514495 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every time I see anything related to complex numbers, the word "zomplex" pops up somewhere in my head. < 1436639437 347897 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436639453 992774 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1436639454 47049 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436639457 379716 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's a double-precision complex value.) < 1436639496 61425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hizzie < 1436639509 605883 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shazzie. Err, no, I got that wrong. < 1436639525 656994 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe heychaf. < 1436639530 822320 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you mean fizzichaf < 1436639544 644890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's `revert? < 1436639548 454478 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you want a patch to fix it? < 1436639560 76357 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a one-line patch? < 1436639587 271895 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it is. < 1436639638 124815 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of awkward: the "correct" way would be to go via https://bitbucket.org/GregorR/hackbot/pull-requests because if I out-of-band patch the HackEgo instance, it might complicate Gregor's life unnecessarily. < 1436639643 148809 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that might involve even more waiting. < 1436639643 572977 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1436639689 326601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't do pull requests. < 1436639698 67226 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway the one line fix involves learning find syntax. < 1436640004 592640 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's nasty. I think the find might look something like find "$HACKENV" -path "$HACKENV/.hg" -prune -o -name '*.orig' -exec rm -f '{}' \; -- you *can* do it by an extra test for every file, but the documentation says you're not supposed to. I did something like this once. < 1436640093 419855 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also -not -path "$HACKENV/.hg/*" < 1436640100 553073 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but it's LESS EFFICIENT. < 1436640115 296250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it'll traverse the whole directory. What a disaster. < 1436640120 378351 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To ignore a whole directory tree, use -prune rather than checking every file in the tree." < 1436640125 599889 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, that's what they say. < 1436640149 947406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/fizzie < 1436640151 327214 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan mroman_ oerjan elliott oerjan oerjan fizzie Bike FreeFull elliott oerjan FreeFull shachaf shachaf nitia < 1436640197 881139 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. I never culprited fizzie. < 1436640247 807963 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My shameful secret of setting my own wisdom entry is revealed. :/ < 1436640384 422707 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/fizzie | grep '' < 1436640385 276700 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: learn fizzie is not fnord with a monad. < 1436640412 472054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: can you make ^style irc be the internal revenue code for a while twh < 1436640487 953911 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436640631 486418 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1436640670 647944 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: fungot fscking dammit. stuck with updates. 55 minutes remaining. < 1436640670 858726 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: an order requiring the clerk of the change; but if the weather for a cardinal's claim until the judge of a < 1436640919 80530 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436640920 850076 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 NICK :TieSoul < 1436641022 921747 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no prob. itll be at least that long before i finish my errands < 1436641164 92801 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good! < 1436641930 64740 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1436642170 170886 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436642390 630178 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think what I put there was a fungot quote. < 1436642390 736154 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ( d) the matter being considered, for every five blots e wishes in a month, the < 1436642435 157726 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436642636 657346 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT : < 1436642659 540248 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436643761 420616 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436643762 930035 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test/test failed. HackEgo-JUnit is not available. < 1436643770 591029 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/test < 1436643772 229677 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ < 1436643911 271574 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436644028 632251 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits wisdom/test | sort | uniq -c < 1436644029 914907 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1 oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ mroman_ < 1436644036 68452 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits wisdom/test | tr \ \\n | sort | uniq -c < 1436644037 517182 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 7 mroman_ \ 8 oerjan < 1436644448 513014 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-094-078.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1436644494 595771 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:c4c9:d167:e9a0:4420 PART :#esoteric < 1436645951 748833 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist PART #esoteric :"WeeChat 1.2" < 1436646151 770062 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436646153 5097 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :homestuck/Homestuck is a cult religion for disaffected teens. Gamzee drives the bus. Best summarized by http://www.mspaintadventures.com/storyfiles/hs2/05743.gif < 1436646157 735829 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436646161 14155 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :marmite/Marmite is a group mind of fungal microorganisms spreading throughout the supermarkets of the Commonwealth. < 1436646564 944019 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436647224 174287 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:TrivialBrainfuckSubstitution14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43462&oldid=43461 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+292) 10/* I deleted the count. */ < 1436647375 414253 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436647377 404211 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ø/ø is not going anywhere. < 1436647393 772103 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1436647934 508302 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436647935 394429 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia/Wikipedia is a bit like TVTropes but in more languages. < 1436647949 64032 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436647950 200789 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quit//quit < 1436647953 263644 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436647954 482541 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym/itym "i think you mean" hth < 1436647956 232166 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436647957 842021 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan_/oerjan_ is oerjan and ørjan's chimæric clone. he shows up on irc when the network is having trouble. < 1436647990 682709 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time for some update... but tomorrow. today I'm steaming my laptop. < 1436649283 102405 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436649369 104103 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436649648 17793 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436649968 748543 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you gotten your laptop sufficiently angry yet? < 1436650023 949379 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1436650615 811939 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should make a wikipedia where all facts are represented in RDF instead of a human lanuage < 1436650644 870154 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the only thing missing are my headphones, and we're good to go. < 1436650649 307374 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: RDF? < 1436650699 553377 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :RDF is this url-based system for representing predicates < 1436650716 611276 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 knows a lot about it < 1436650725 250855 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? RDF < 1436650725 946389 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RDF? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1436651019 407768 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn RDF/RDF is something zzo38 knows about. < 1436651022 915282 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «rdf» < 1436651061 722474 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat le/rn < 1436651062 447249 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | cut -d / -f 1) \ [ -z "$topic" ] && exit 1 \ value=$(echo "$1" | cut -d / -f 2-) \ echo "$value" > wisdom/"$topic" && echo "Learned «$topic»" < 1436651069 713043 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/mk < 1436651071 225943 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[[ "$1" == *//* ]] || exit 1; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; echo "$value" > "$key" && echo "$key" < 1436651074 128267 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, mk doesn't lowercase either. < 1436651104 613892 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436651348 498021 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to boily? < 1436651373 394032 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it happened that steam crashed, and doesn't want to be launched again. < 1436651442 358309 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to log off, log back in, see if it still antagonizes me, perhaps reboot. < 1436651444 963104 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION grmbles < 1436651452 520281 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CURVY CHICKEN < 1436651472 857835 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( STEAMING CHICKEN ) < 1436651485 127156 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436651682 18304 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436651772 48568 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1436651968 951534 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1436652609 945486 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1436652789 79618 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436653016 171135 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436653293 75146 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1436653378 923732 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436653881 87094 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1436653923 758700 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :RDF is a kind of directed-graphs with nodes and kind of edges identified by URIs. < 1436653941 532093 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that there is also literals, and also unlabeled nodes. < 1436654540 140661 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436654622 284151 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? RDF < 1436654622 957901 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RDF is something zzo38 knows about. < 1436654894 567895 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436654993 25178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1436655752 520107 :Inri_Cristo!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1436655903 845760 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436655927 409232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inri_Cristo: thought you were one of the people looking for the wrong kind of esoteric for a moment there < 1436656042 548115 :Inri_Cristo!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436656140 75781 :Inri_Cristo!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1436656561 449868 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inri_Cristo didn't write anything yet though, therefore is also possibility some people are join just to look, too < 1436656577 620073 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(At least, not recently) < 1436656598 162429 :Inri_Cristo!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, hi :3 < 1436656813 599256 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SuperPar14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43463&oldid=20844 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+644) 10 < 1436656835 246163 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436656870 447028 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi guys! < 1436656880 942455 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody here? < 1436656890 274164 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I am here and probably a few others < 1436656897 152347 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1436656918 163942 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anybody have experience with precognitive dreams? < 1436656939 35600 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know someone who does < 1436656960 279242 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I'm really lost < 1436656987 205115 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can;t figure out how come one can dream about the future < 1436656988 583428 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I myself cannot say though. I have many kind of strange dream recorded in my computer (myself and others), but not precognitive or anything like that I know! < 1436656995 954718 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want information, look in Wikipedia < 1436657007 574922 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trust me I looked everywhere < 1436657030 19493 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I even contacted a research group < 1436657035 428258 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Scotland < 1436657062 899115 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people say it is just coincidence. Probably at least in some cases it is. < 1436657073 203513 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not my case < 1436657082 832547 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish they were just soincidence < 1436657091 492801 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-s+c < 1436657136 300743 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there is an indication after waking from these dreams that they are precognitive < 1436657141 574233 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another possibility I thought of (now known to be wrong, I think?) is that it isn't really precognitive but your memory is mixed up because the dream is confusing that you know afterward seem it is < 1436657162 610856 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok here is an example: < 1436657184 98333 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one night I dream about a guy who has got green dices on his forehead < 1436657194 971370 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I even told to my friend what a strange dream < 1436657225 723313 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome frecz < 1436657226 616792 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02frecz: 06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13EFnet 04or 07DALnet.) < 1436657240 968523 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you tell someone ahead of time, don't you think they can cause it? < 1436657241 870259 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACK NAK ETX VT < 1436657248 266908 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 days later I met a guy at a train station who had got a piercing in his eyebrows and 2 green dices attached both of its ends < 1436657289 504270 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you tell me that it is a coincidence? < 1436657308 385470 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a coincidence. < 1436657309 145371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1436657312 642375 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: thank you < 1436657316 598477 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Is that supposed to be names of ASCII codes? Of what kind of program is it the ASCII codes of? < 1436657322 742310 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :frecz: I can say I don't know! < 1436657352 815654 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working on an aternative to ANSI escapes.. < 1436657356 228765 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm 100% percent sure that they are precognitive < 1436657364 953428 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly due to "morphic resonance fields" which nobody really knows anything about or even if it is exist. < 1436657368 848563 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then why did you ask? < 1436657373 668211 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and trust me I'm skeptic in general < 1436657399 113343 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am also skeptical but equally I know I don't know everything and should consider all of the possibilities regardless. < 1436657408 866917 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: O, OK. Do you have a document of it? < 1436657434 264480 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What do you if there are too many possibilities to consider? < 1436657441 958019 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody here has got these dreams? < 1436657455 980247 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I didn't say I *can* consider all of the possibilities, only that I *should*. < 1436657460 587943 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's different! < 1436657465 44055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should you do the impossible? < 1436657471 611530 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Working on that right now... So essentially I'm working on a program to translate my simpler escapes into termios/a < 1436657482 729398 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANSI escapes and so on < 1436657487 22517 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys to be honest, something is wrong with this world < 1436657499 694633 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I should say woth this universe < 1436657515 949874 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :frecz: Not as far as I remember, I have had such dream, but I have had some kind of strange dream too < 1436657521 260299 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something just doesnt add up < 1436657538 730595 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are not just strange dreams < 1436657543 111515 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you need to learn more about the world. < 1436657548 857502 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have those every now on then < 1436657556 196104 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :these dreams are different < 1436657590 503686 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: It is true, even physicists don't know all of laws of physics, such as how to combine general relativity with quantum mechanics, I think. < 1436657603 601319 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This clearly explains something, but who knows what, yet? < 1436657607 941358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i meant based on Inri_Cristo's nickname < 1436657623 153577 :Inri_Cristo!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer NICK :h0rsep0wer < 1436657623 458633 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, people essentially overwrite their memories every time they remember them. Thus, what you remeber your dream being now, isn't necessarily what it really was < 1436657647 370382 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "INRI" is Latin for "Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews", isn't it? < 1436657680 51471 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I see your point < 1436657683 635133 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Yes I have thought of that as one possible way, but in some cases I have heard of, that hypothesis doesn't work (in some cases it does though) < 1436657692 745106 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and trust I wish that would be my case < 1436657706 160945 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sadly it is not... < 1436657709 97767 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iesus Nazarenus, Rex Iudaiorum < 1436657730 296763 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Yes I know a few Latin words like that < 1436657769 521517 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :frecz: Try writing your dreams down every morning, then you can test whether you can remember them correctly after a few days < 1436657790 160382 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is a good test, I believe so too < 1436657793 910953 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't need < 1436657809 108992 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can recall all of my dreams without writing them down < 1436657828 791729 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can even tell you what I dreamed about 2 years ago < 1436657831 714686 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But how do you know you aren't remembering them wrong < 1436657835 460230 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you never wrote it down or told anyone or otherwise communicate it, how do you know your memory is not mix up? < 1436657872 580906 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because these dreams seems so real that I wake up immedietaly and I'm full of sweat < 1436657896 105864 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those dreams are so real that I need at least half an hour to get back to real life... < 1436657896 657802 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That isn't a real proof < 1436657899 410830 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next time that happens, try writing it on IRC right away < 1436657922 635766 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write it anywhere. IRC, paper, or tell it to a tape recorder, whatever < 1436657924 393782 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody would believe me < 1436657936 912942 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will be logged, then when it happens you can prove that you knew < 1436657941 866612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :frecz: Doesn't matter. < 1436657957 326285 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, yes, this IRC channel is logged, including timestamps. < 1436657972 595852 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can I proove that something happened to me via irc? < 1436658014 913992 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before you prove it to others, you must prove it to yourself. < 1436658017 240681 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't do that, but *you* will know if you are lying < 1436658039 695731 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need proof for myself < 1436658049 41434 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that I'm not crazy < 1436658059 865407 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that I've had those dreams < 1436658071 328877 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What would you say about a dream where seven thin cows eat seven fat cows? < 1436658096 511836 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Just that it look strange, but I also seem to remember I think in the Bible something like that is mentioned, or something like that < 1436658110 663192 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's impossible to know for sure. the definition of crazy is based on society at large, hence an individual can't tell for himself whther he is crazy. < 1436658114 914373 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1436658118 992196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Genesis 41 < 1436658171 337874 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even society at large, I think, does not know; but an individual doesn't know either, you can only guess < 1436658231 315278 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right that was in the movie Joseph king of dreams < 1436658265 799755 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY29UTk59uw the official profunctor lens anthem? < 1436658296 469659 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1436658322 583522 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do record many of my own dream I remember (or believe I remember the details I typed) anyways, and also from what others have told me too; but, not precognitive as far as I know. < 1436658339 818697 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I think you know why < 1436658376 338582 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I can't play audio right now. < 1436658380 676104 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it just because of the name Forget? < 1436658382 719986 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1436658389 432251 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1436658398 232138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I called it Forget because it's used for getting. < 1436658406 944445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never intended that to be a real name. < 1436658425 359860 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :woww < 1436658427 988999 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best pun since Atkey < 1436658512 563025 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once I watched a television show, some scientists were researching reincarnation, and I thought: Reincarnation? That's nonsense; it is really a new kind of resonance. This was not mentioned on the show; they just called it reincarnation. Later though I learned that the researcher did have a similar idea to what I had; they just didn't mention it on the TV. < 1436658594 989148 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, of course, how am I even to say for sure, if nobody even understand very well yet? < 1436658721 698504 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you like poutine? < 1436658734 519787 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, no < 1436658749 862472 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Even though I am Canadian, but I don't live in Quebec) < 1436658790 841017 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :frellocz! do you like poutine? < 1436658793 439400 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish to try some poutine with real cheese curds < 1436658794 803618 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: If you lived in Quebec, would you like poutine? < 1436658803 783234 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How would I know? < 1436658808 364705 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1436658825 633138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You can give me your best approximation of the answer. < 1436658854 343840 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My best approximation is still that I don't know, though. < 1436658860 675132 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1436658867 837641 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canada is one of the best places on earth I think < 1436658929 704054 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and canadians are one of the best people on earth < 1436659015 681671 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're also nice under earth, besides earth, even in space! < 1436659017 748232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek frecz likes poutine? this cannot be just coincidence. boily?!!! < 1436659044 523028 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: they haven't tried the REAL DEAL yet, with real cheese curds. < 1436659050 94825 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm Ontarian so I prefer vinegar on fries < 1436659052 77928 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :` rot13 frecz # coincidence < 1436659052 650447 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :serpm < 1436659052 774220 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :frecz: ever been to Québec? < 1436659057 755933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it is a coincidence. < 1436659060 133365 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: malt vinegar? < 1436659063 657490 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1436659065 65329 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that is what I'm talking about < 1436659067 580239 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, missed a question mark < 1436659076 996597 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: never been to Canada < 1436659085 578057 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some things are described as "coincidence" or "not coincidence" but don't tell how much coincidence it is, since this could matter too maybe < 1436659091 895074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you're probably an atheist and wouldn't recognize a synchronicity if it bit you in the ass hth < 1436659102 715589 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I agree with you. fish'n'chips with malt vinegar. and a pint of ale. < 1436659103 142647 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoa whoa whoa < 1436659107 751789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this goes for 90% of the channel) < 1436659111 460936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what's with all these assumptions < 1436659129 147757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely prepares to learn that shachaf is strictly hasidic < 1436659134 140897 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think synchronicitity is subjective anyways though? < 1436659172 528106 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :frecz: you should come to Montréal, enjoy the scenery, the food, the potholes... < 1436659185 436392 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't even know how to pronounce syncronicity < 1436659203 711272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: or spell it hth < 1436659210 89158 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Won't it tell you in the dictionary the way of pronounce it? < 1436659236 751974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: i'm not absolutely sure i know either, i've been assuming it's the obvious way? < 1436659236 858273 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What do you think of Raymond Smullyan? < 1436659260 510449 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to visit Canad ais on my bucket list < 1436659266 672551 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sooner or later < 1436659267 308842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canad ais523 < 1436659302 104266 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I haven't read any of those book yet but I should read it, and then I can know. < 1436659311 838188 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Correct. < 1436659327 153657 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :frecz: by the way, let me ask you the The Question: what are your approximate geographic coördinates and body weigh? < 1436659331 372956 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sin kron ick it ee? < 1436659333 339421 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: itym: "and wouldn't recognize a synchronicity if two of them bit you in the ass at the same time hth" hth < 1436659346 21071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: darn you got me there < 1436659356 9516 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: why would you be interested in my body weight? < 1436659362 659809 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :-issity, oren < 1436659366 699551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: i think this is synchronistic with the recent banach-tarski event hth < 1436659369 537195 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one asked about your body weight. < 1436659369 642700 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: sink cron iss it ee. < 1436659369 928344 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436659382 473851 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the question < 1436659383 298684 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1436659409 756996 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? question < 1436659410 548490 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :question? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1436659412 239568 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :frecz: it is traditional. it is part of the The Question. also, you don't have to be truthful. in fact, a lot of us are actively unhelpful for that hth < 1436659448 400668 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm a bit overweight but not obese if that is what you were looking for < 1436659449 48493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn the question/The The Question is the fundamental mystery of #esoteric, and boily is its master. < 1436659449 705855 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it is to calculate the center of mass? < 1436659451 266229 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «the question» < 1436659488 838872 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there only one The Question? < 1436659502 265082 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the The Question boily asks was one of several. < 1436659503 514777 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i thought so too, then dismissed it as being too obvious :( < 1436659512 909359 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the The Question. no dualism, no hambiguity. < 1436659514 21045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't know, maybe should try running it through Banach-Tarski? < 1436659517 585862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+we < 1436659521 396753 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: zzo38 is correct. < 1436659521 666557 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1234567890-=qwertyuiop[]\asdfghjkl;'zxcvbnm,./~!@#$%^&*()_+QWERTYUIOP{}|ASDFGHJKL:"ZXCVBNM<>? < 1436659522 280900 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/1234567890-=qwertyuiop[]\asdfghjkl;'zxcvbnm,./~!@#$%^&*()_+QWERTYUIOP{}|ASDFGHJKL:"ZXCVBNM<>?: No such file or directory < 1436659528 536639 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing new font < 1436659537 390081 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks ok < 1436659541 569994 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: please test new font in your /msg HackEgo window twh < 1436659547 908136 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :éèàçù? < 1436659559 257665 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There might be other question too that other people can ask too, I suppose < 1436659575 500472 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :§€µ£²³. azerty helpfulness right here < 1436659581 583581 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok guys off to quake live < 1436659585 850529 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :take care < 1436659612 500434 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, but they aren't going to be completely The-y. their The-ness will only be strictly less than the The of the The Question itself. < 1436659617 736016 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OCR A EXTENDED is my new font < 1436659631 37378 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles mauris for using the most horrible layout out there. BLETCH! < 1436659641 401382 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yes, that does seem correct < 1436659659 842906 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436659684 404193 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oops, missed a question mark <-- wait, i think i overinterpreted that missing mark < 1436659697 94319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, it was probably fate. < 1436659727 513985 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it was meant to be "coincidence?" < 1436659733 726603 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :those characters are showing up fine. < 1436659740 55841 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you interpreted it as the opposite or something < 1436659767 939267 :Inri_Cristo!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1436659783 57834 :Inri_Cristo!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer PART :#esoteric < 1436659795 475672 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you should like, weight by lines typed!! < 1436659833 180657 :frecz!0526a2f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.38.162.245 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436660075 980680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yep, ending with your brutal conversion to hasidism < 1436660098 302414 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, are you at berkeley, or just nearby < 1436660114 442982 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: fizzie does that in his fizziegraphs. < 1436660120 400889 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in Berkeley, CA. < 1436660124 378939 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has recently learned weird things about berkeley < 1436660124 736820 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean the university? < 1436660151 50307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure, how far does the weirdness spread? < 1436660179 731775 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The city is a nuclear-free zone, the university isn't. < 1436660184 284818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1436660194 551354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have its own reactor? < 1436660202 620526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or five < 1436660255 950305 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the weirdness you were talking about? < 1436660319 930182 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm undecided between OCR A and this font http://postimg.org/image/atjas13rt/ < 1436660348 686180 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1436660363 233160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well one scott a blog pointed me to another and suddenly i found myself in a post about polyamorism at berkeley < 1436660371 170311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1436660373 463272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*reading < 1436660379 634553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't actually mentioned < 1436660385 189378 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would stop using computers if those were The Two fonts < 1436660402 143634 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can you help me parse the beginning of that sentence twh < 1436660410 290736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and eliezer yudkowski was part of it < 1436660419 18672 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :"one Scott A. blog" etc < 1436660428 81954 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1436660444 109123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: scott aaronson has been recently impressed with the content on scott alexander's blog < 1436660451 364663 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :eliezer yudkowski is the harem-forming prophet of Transhumanism < 1436660468 145103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: i just didn't know he was being so literal about it < 1436660490 84023 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436660531 610610 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Overall it seems anyone who starts a religion gets lots of women < 1436660566 902054 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: i didn't know that applied to uber-geek religions too < 1436660683 609960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yudkowsky < 1436660691 250201 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :never can remember how to spell it < 1436660860 138252 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436660889 87783 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which part is the weirdness twh < 1436660924 11911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way polyamorism was apparently considered completely normal in that community < 1436661005 296829 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would add "not that there is anything wrong with that", but i'd like to give the experiment a few more decades before concluding. < 1436661010 964072 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure that's a berkeley thing in particular < 1436661243 583297 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well obviously i'm overinterpreting things again < 1436661382 968380 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway there have been better-qualified people than me to comment in this channel < 1436661392 697413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure whether there are any around nowadays < 1436661401 780425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1436661521 703874 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/c++ | grep summary: < 1436661522 638055 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: echo \'Along with C, C++ is a language for smart people.\' > wisdom/c++ # C already had a good-enough entry < 1436662180 103299 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1436662192 201934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436662193 309881 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar/The command you're looking for is probably either tar -xavkf or tar -cavf < 1436662215 458633 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Comment support is a good point against mk. < 1436663021 721952 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436663173 963004 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main reason I have contempt for Eliezer Yudkowsky is I can't find a single example of actual code written by him. < 1436663297 704933 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436664015 762269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: heh < 1436664134 95830 :Yelany!~canaima@186-93-76-211.genericrev.cantv.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436664145 4431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido Yelany < 1436664145 991983 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yelany: ¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en EFnet o DALnet.) < 1436664162 832804 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should go and find EY and get him to do FizzBuzz < 1436664180 981466 :Yelany!~canaima@186-93-76-211.genericrev.cantv.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1436664187 654753 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1436664204 421077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: he'll do it as soon as he can prove that FizzBuzz is Friendly hth < 1436664205 840493 :Yelany!~canaima@186-93-76-211.genericrev.cantv.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hablan englis < 1436664223 48592 :Yelany!~canaima@186-93-76-211.genericrev.cantv.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quien habla espan < 1436664287 392915 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, only english < 1436664300 48468 :Yelany!~canaima@186-93-76-211.genericrev.cantv.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no entiendo < 1436664338 287342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español." < 1436664429 12598 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :英語と日本語だけ分かります < 1436664439 690450 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: ONLY ENGLISH I SAID < 1436664465 768743 :Yelany!~canaima@186-93-76-211.genericrev.cantv.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hla < 1436664482 171531 :Yelany!~canaima@186-93-76-211.genericrev.cantv.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :able en espaol prfa < 1436664553 142879 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :スペイン語分かんないよ < 1436664614 841364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yelany: Entonces tengo que usar Google Translate, y que se pone rápido molesto. < 1436664624 249034 :Yelany!~canaima@186-93-76-211.genericrev.cantv.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :si < 1436664670 669693 :Yelany!~canaima@186-93-76-211.genericrev.cantv.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ass < 1436664675 902792 :Yelany!~canaima@186-93-76-211.genericrev.cantv.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chu < 1436664697 545099 :Yelany!~canaima@186-93-76-211.genericrev.cantv.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1436664730 388679 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436664739 51033 :Yelany!~canaima@186-93-76-211.genericrev.cantv.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a girlfriend who says < 1436664778 415267 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :青い鳥二匹は空に飛んでる < 1436664913 936675 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does she say? < 1436664958 369948 :Yelany!~canaima@186-93-76-211.genericrev.cantv.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a girlfriend who says < 1436664992 173261 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :赤い魚を食べたくてる < 1436665029 160599 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a girlfriend who says "I have a girlfriend"? < 1436665099 408004 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1436665135 685278 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :魚一匹、魚二匹、赤い魚、青い魚 < 1436665311 718269 :Yelany!~canaima@186-93-76-211.genericrev.cantv.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quien tiene novia < 1436665327 840488 :Yelany!~canaima@186-93-76-211.genericrev.cantv.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :busquelo traducido < 1436665332 699881 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :帽子を株った猫が帰ります < 1436665405 26749 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : damn, wrong words. < 1436665440 603620 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :帽子を被った猫はかえります < 1436665466 722178 :Yelany!~canaima@186-93-76-211.genericrev.cantv.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hay me boy < 1436665603 21986 :Yelany!~canaima@186-93-76-211.genericrev.cantv.net PART :#esoteric < 1436665982 489286 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm freezie < 1436666053 728400 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436666578 775072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I guess the problem is, the cache size bounds the evilness of the memory bus < 1436666581 361331 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1248) I guess the problem is, the cache size bounds the evilness of the memory bus < 1436667382 505104 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:c4c9:d167:e9a0:4420 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436667382 559375 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:c4c9:d167:e9a0:4420 QUIT :Client Quit < 1436667406 34798 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Waitm why did go I buy a freezie when I have ice, sugar and a blender available in my house < 1436667414 891692 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm dumb < 1436667417 504213 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:c4c9:d167:e9a0:4420 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436667581 539786 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1436667694 333673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: because adventure! < 1436667698 12868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1436667779 971541 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1436667784 323818 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because consumerism < 1436667802 17832 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1436668132 32929 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436668135 505418 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I guess society has trained me to spend money on things I can make for myself. < 1436668197 684807 :nys!~nys@blk-103-227-154.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1436668200 609575 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436668611 720649 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436669024 639973 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436670421 352548 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.colorpicker.com/85cdff < 1436670434 522187 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: ORION CHICKEN < 1436670492 380675 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pizzazz < 1436671597 841861 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1436672217 5372 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436673436 332225 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436673780 494524 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1436673835 778332 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1436675123 120738 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idea: language in which ansi escape sequences, or some other method of specifying color, form part of the syntax < 1436675183 437850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...isn't this what colorforth does? < 1436675228 188884 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's colorforth < 1436675243 262579 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ColorForth < 1436675426 477843 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm only two colors. I was thinking like using colors to link together elements that would normally require parentheses < 1436675504 188900 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So RED(x)GRN(+)RED(y)+GRN(z) means (x+y)*z < 1436675514 859420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um there's at least also yellow < 1436675582 47442 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or suppose you have if ... if ... else, you can color the else the same as one of the ifs to link it < 1436675672 286735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1436675815 811955 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There are white comments, yellow macros, red definitions with gray instructions and green literal numbers and calls to previously defined (red) words." < 1436675846 430726 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436675917 997931 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, there the colors sort of are like sigils. I'm using them like brackets and parens < 1436675948 568748 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ColorAlgol < 1436675948 894616 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436675950 440642 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436675984 145322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: that's going to give some complications when your nesting is deeper than your number of colors < 1436676026 32233 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmmm my terminal supports 256 colors tortal, with some duplicates < 1436676075 446997 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but xterm allows 2^24 colors with ^[[38;2;R;G;Bm < 1436676098 739760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :complications now shift to actually distinguishing the colors... < 1436676101 430953 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:c4c9:d167:e9a0:4420 PART :#esoteric < 1436676104 219992 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1436676125 396035 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436676139 728250 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're already going to have complications when your nesting is deeper than 256 < 1436676191 851865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: don't be silly! < 1436676305 947074 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think emacs cycles through colours for nested brackets < 1436676450 329255 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436677164 19265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL the uk has special coins that are only used by the queen for a special yearly charity event on maundy thursdays < 1436677187 596528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maundy money) < 1436677227 372088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, it used to be charity, these days it's apparently more of an honor thing < 1436677497 18654 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at all these colors!!!! http://postimg.org/image/g6dbw90bx/ < 1436677755 232900 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436678502 371393 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436678502 616138 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436679338 429128 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436681638 418415 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1436681677 377612 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436685236 333349 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why doesn't anyone just generate .h files from .c files? < 1436686673 605309 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if is some program exist for such purposes < 1436686695 555945 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.hwaci.com/sw/mkhdr/ http://invisible-island.net/cproto/cproto.html < 1436686709 719878 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, sometimes you might want to put some thing only in a .h file anyways < 1436686722 199302 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436687024 228205 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436688298 977179 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some wimpy programmers who say that you should write the header files first. < 1436688500 295937 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1436689242 201210 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436689374 954905 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:34a0:43fd:8493:a7c1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436689801 46574 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1436689978 730385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/quit < 1436689980 340247 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull cpressey < 1436690008 97344 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/quit | grep cpressey < 1436690008 877430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/quit | grep summary: < 1436690009 71466 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: learn /quit < 1436690009 744974 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: revert \ summary: for x in wisdom/*; do rev "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ summary: learn /quit < 1436690021 985745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1436690084 66956 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436690548 997589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if boily and quintopia ever got that game going < 1436691528 926834 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, game? < 1436691702 831835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily was trying to download something from Steam which they were going to play < 1436691752 588851 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haneb < 1436691823 416552 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachelloaf < 1436691916 853253 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :curses < 1436691926 772205 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a hello so convoluted my /hilights don't catch it < 1436691941 666900 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do try my best < 1436692256 370555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1436692609 873460 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:34a0:43fd:8493:a7c1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436692773 509038 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1436693252 755541 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436693528 739892 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436696257 804542 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:3cbc:81f9:9c40:c882 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436696283 783465 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:21:e9aa:3b73:fdaa JOIN :#esoteric < 1436696504 885819 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1436696906 459735 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436697175 468783 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1436697241 595925 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1436697429 799026 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian QUIT :Quit: Konversation terminated! < 1436697679 997814 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436697984 730970 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94.224.27.215 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436700188 617168 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any time I get highlighted in here < 1436700193 685800 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's because someone did hg log < 1436700208 808299 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436700369 846838 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better change your name, and maybe burn your fingerprints off. < 1436700481 423639 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits < 1436700481 988627 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed "$1" | grep summary: | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs < 1436700580 245233 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/culprits < 1436700581 708918 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett shachaf shachaf shachaf FireFly FireFly FireFly FireFly FireFly FireFly shachaf < 1436700610 179836 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode zero width space < 1436700610 793658 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​​ < 1436700634 348956 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tsnryjsmhiwmorit PRIVMSG #esoteric :👋 < 1436700649 828593 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only needed one, but anyway < 1436700684 725187 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tsnryjsmhiwmorit PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thats a hello hand i think < 1436700701 888458 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tsnryjsmhiwmorit PRIVMSG #esoteric :👐jazzhands < 1436700944 649570 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode pile of poo < 1436700945 790325 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F4A9 PILE OF POO \ UTF-8: f0 9f 92 a9 UTF-16BE: d83ddca9 Decimal: 💩 \ 💩 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1436701423 842953 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tsnryjsmhiwmorit PRIVMSG #esoteric :👉👌 < 1436701570 767751 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i -e 's,$, | sed "s/\\([][{}\\^a-zA-Z0-9_|\\\\\\`-]\\)\\([][{}\\^a-zA-Z0-9_|\\\\\\`-]\\+\\)/\\1​\\2/g",' bin/culprits < 1436701572 333126 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436701580 887873 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/culprits < 1436701582 295082 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :J​afet t​swett t​swett s​hachaf s​hachaf s​hachaf F​ireFly F​ireFly F​ireFly F​ireFly F​ireFly F​ireFly s​hachaf < 1436701912 822361 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 👋 < 1436701913 849548 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F44B WAVING HAND SIGN \ UTF-8: f0 9f 91 8b UTF-16BE: d83ddc4b Decimal: 👋 \ 👋 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1436701930 978630 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bet that's going to be animated in the next unicode standard < 1436702296 121010 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think bin/culprits used to use ZWSP, but shachaf complained about non-ASCII characters < 1436702500 202322 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436702594 318675 :^sez!~^sez@60-240-104-147.static.tpgi.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436702694 605873 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tsnryjsmhiwmorit PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zswp is a fad < 1436702893 15831 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASCII is a fad < 1436703259 638856 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436703270 748769 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"These data support the contention that crickets contain quantities of many nutrients that are essential to humans and show that the insect represents a commercially feasible source of food for human populations." < 1436703521 591807 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436704256 258939 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits . < 1436704258 686428 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :J​afet o​erjan o​erjan o​ren o​erjan s​hachaf o​erjan o​erjan o​erjan o​erjan o​erjan b​oily i​nt-e s​hachaf s​hachaf i​nt-e i​nt-e S​geo_ S​geo_ S​geo_ S​geo_ S​geo_ S​geo_ o​erjan o​erjan o​erjan o​erjan o​ren o​erjan o​erjan o​erjan o​erjan T​aneb < 1436704575 190964 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits . | wc < 1436704577 561745 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1 5805 66729 < 1436704614 719769 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits . | tr \ \\n | sort | uniq -c | sort -n | tr -s \\n\ < 1436704617 300952 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1 A​ftran \ 1 a​is523unfoog \ 1 B​icyclidine \ 1 B​ike_ \ 1 C​allForJudgement \ 1 c​uttlefish \ 1 d​alias \ 1 d​belange \ 1 E​ldis4 \ 1 e​stin \ 1 |​evilliopttic_PA \ 1 f​ungot \ 1 h​iato \ 1 K​oen_ \ 1 l​ambdabot \ 1 m​rout \ 1 N​ihilistDandy \ 1 n​itia \ 1 n​vd \ 1 o < 1436704636 111642 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits . | tr \ \\n | sort | uniq -c | sort -n | tr -s \\n\ \ < 1436704638 622203 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1 A​ftran 1 a​is523unfoog 1 B​icyclidine 1 B​ike_ 1 C​allForJudgement 1 c​uttlefish 1 d​alias 1 d​belange 1 E​ldis4 1 e​stin 1 |​evilliopttic_PA 1 f​ungot 1 h​iato 1 K​oen_ 1 l​ambdabot 1 m​rout 1 N​ihilistDandy 1 n​itia 1 n​vd 1 o​onbotti 1 o​rin 1 P​iRSquared17 1 p​uritania < 1436704644 854700 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits . | tr \ \\n | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | tr -s \\n\ \ < 1436704647 476936 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1446 o​erjan 614 e​lliott 520 s​hachaf 183 b​oily 177 G​reyKnight 172 J​afet 165 k​mc 157 f​izzie 138 R​oujo 132 T​aneb 120 a​is523 101 m​roman_ 98 B​ike 92 n​ortti 90 n​ooodl 85 P​hantom_Hoover 77 i​nt-e 67 S​geo 64 m​rhmouse 63 c​oppro 60 o​lsner 58 F​ireFly 56 m​roman 54 h < 1436704820 439238 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/culprit* < 1436704821 225840 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/culprits < 1436704878 144876 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` o=bin/culprits-c && echo $'#!/bin/sh\n''culprits "$@" | tr \ \\n | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | tr -s \\n\ \ ' > "$o" && chmod a+x "$o" < 1436704882 193164 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436704892 525121 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits-c . < 1436704895 58085 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1446 o​erjan 614 e​lliott 520 s​hachaf 183 b​oily 177 G​reyKnight 172 J​afet 165 k​mc 157 f​izzie 138 R​oujo 132 T​aneb 120 a​is523 101 m​roman_ 98 B​ike 92 n​ortti 90 n​ooodl 85 P​hantom_Hoover 77 i​nt-e 67 S​geo 64 m​rhmouse 63 c​oppro 60 o​lsner 58 F​ireFly 56 m​roman 54 h < 1436704901 623550 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits-c bin < 1436704903 359906 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 286 o​erjan 175 s​hachaf 104 J​afet 97 e​lliott 80 f​izzie 61 R​oujo 38 k​mc 37 n​ooodl 33 n​ortti 29 i​nt-e 29 F​ireFly 28 c​00kiemon5ter 26 m​rhmouse 26 i​on 25 b​oily 23 a​is523 22 T​aneb 22 m​roman_ 20 G​reyKnight 20 B​ike 19 S​geo 19 o​lsner 19 m​roman 19 b​_jonas 15 z < 1436704906 639164 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits-c wisdom < 1436704908 319269 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 492 o​erjan 170 s​hachaf 103 b​oily 55 e​lliott 50 T​aneb 38 G​reyKnight 32 m​roman 31 m​roman_ 28 P​hantom_Hoover 28 i​nt-e 27 R​oujo 18 B​ike 17 Z​ombieCheney 16 t​swett 16 o​lsner 16 F​reeFull 15 J​afet 12 z​zo38 12 z​ui438s 12 J​Winslow23 12 G​regor 11 n​ortti 10 f​izzie 1 < 1436704998 396977 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? statistics < 1436704999 82692 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :statistics? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1436705321 440465 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits < 1436705321 929349 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed "$1" | grep summary: | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs | sed "s/\([][{}\^a-zA-Z0-9_|\\\`-]\)\([][{}\^a-zA-Z0-9_|\\\`-]\+\)/\1​\2/g" < 1436705445 556680 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --removed . | grep summary: | sed -n '/`revert/{n;p;}' | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs | sed "s/\([][{}\^a-zA-Z0-9_|\\\`-]\)\([][{}\^a-zA-Z0-9_|\\\`-]\+\)/\1​\2/g" | tr \ \\n | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | tr -s \\n\ \ < 1436705448 64497 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1 i​nt-e 1 e​lliott < 1436705485 260182 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --removed . | grep summary: | sed -n '/> revert/{n;p;}' | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs | sed "s/\([][{}\^a-zA-Z0-9_|\\\`-]\)\([][{}\^a-zA-Z0-9_|\\\`-]\+\)/\1​\2/g" | tr \ \\n | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | tr -s \\n\ \ < 1436705487 684569 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 87 o​erjan 56 s​hachaf 24 e​lliott 8 J​afet 7 i​nt-e 6 t​swett 6 m​onqy 5 b​oily 5 a​is523 4 R​oujo 4 P​hantom_Hoover 4 F​reeFull 4 c​oppro 3 T​aneb 3 S​geo 3 F​ireFly 3 B​ike 2 Z​ombieCheney 2 r​anc 2 n​ortti 2 i​zabera 2 h​agb4rd 2 G​regor 2 f​izzie 1 z​zo38 1 Z​omie < 1436705706 816660 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+0F < 1436705707 443245 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1436705717 60919 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`multicode U+0F < 1436705717 851575 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+000F \ UTF-8: 0f UTF-16BE: 000f Decimal:  \  \ Category: Cc (Other, Control) \ Bidi: BN (Boundary Neutral) < 1436705756 500853 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo 'a\x0fb' < 1436705756 966928 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​'a\x0fb' < 1436705761 138754 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -e 'a\x0fb' < 1436705761 690835 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ab < 1436705790 477660 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It disappears in my client. Spooky. < 1436705834 82142 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert bin/culprits < 1436705834 374949 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :abort: unknown revision 'bin/culprits'! < 1436705907 532695 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436706054 486990 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -E 'hg log --removed "$1" | grep summary: | awk '\''{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}'\'' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs' > bin/culprits && chmod +x bin/culprits < 1436706056 128599 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436706420 715651 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436706643 735246 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436709198 620470 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1436711571 385652 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1436712341 950243 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My dad says he has eaten locusts with honey when he was in Africa. < 1436712406 352137 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My favorite control character is ENQ < 1436712438 451271 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also known as u+000E < 1436712614 909652 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ENQ < 1436712616 44684 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0045 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER E \ UTF-8: 45 UTF-16BE: 0045 Decimal: E \ E (e) \ Lowercase: U+0065 \ Category: Lu (Letter, Uppercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+004E LATIN CAPITAL LETTER N \ UTF-8: 4e UTF-16BE: 004e Decimal: N \ N (n) \ Lowercase: U+006E \ Category: Lu (Letter, Uppercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+0051 LATIN C < 1436712624 73513 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+0E < 1436712624 960130 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1436712654 479575 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`multicode U+0E < 1436712655 288382 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+000E \ UTF-8: 0e UTF-16BE: 000e Decimal:  \  \ Category: Cc (Other, Control) \ Bidi: BN (Boundary Neutral) < 1436712709 910195 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, which control character do you like best? < 1436712710 13356 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: when the rules except when those duties involve acting as the rolebearer for that office. < 1436712909 778773 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloren. locusts are quite tasty. < 1436713258 75936 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1436713261 65853 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tsnryjsmhiwmorit PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 🗾 < 1436713261 969953 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F5FE SILHOUETTE OF JAPAN \ UTF-8: f0 9f 97 be UTF-16BE: d83dddfe Decimal: 🗾 \ 🗾 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1436713291 475782 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tsnryjsmhiwmorit PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ♨ < 1436713292 341056 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+2668 HOT SPRINGS \ UTF-8: e2 99 a8 UTF-16BE: 2668 Decimal: ♨ \ ♨ \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1436713308 176484 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tsnryjsmhiwmorit PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like javas logo < 1436713320 940454 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hot Spring? < 1436713349 323519 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tsnryjsmhiwmorit PRIVMSG #esoteric :For me its three red squiggles out of a red circle < 1436713385 850479 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://projects.spring.io/spring-framework) < 1436713415 135296 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tsnryjsmhiwmorit PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wat < 1436713441 338753 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436713473 896356 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tsnryjsmhiwmorit PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 💠 < 1436713474 900444 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F4A0 DIAMOND SHAPE WITH A DOT INSIDE \ UTF-8: f0 9f 92 a0 UTF-16BE: d83ddca0 Decimal: 💠 \ 💠 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1436713578 229988 :S1!~S1FeHa@p4FF93CC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1436714233 483785 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. only some of these characters display properly. http://imgur.com/GwylgyH < 1436714241 260666 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and by some, there's only one.) < 1436714341 632442 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, same for me < 1436714354 785406 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I think we're using the same font < 1436714425 244320 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using the powerline-patched version of Liberation Mono. < 1436714457 383363 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see most of those characters because I have a bunch of japanese fonts installed. < 1436714475 395565 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see the one with a diamond < 1436714491 863364 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tsnryjsmhiwmorit PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have ubuntu fonts on my pc and it shows everything < 1436714504 369465 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tsnryjsmhiwmorit PRIVMSG #esoteric :All emojis at least < 1436714588 338854 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :font management involves vantablack-grade dark magic. < 1436714588 550801 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, how many other national maps are in unicode < 1436714668 835957 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tsnryjsmhiwmorit PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually thought that was a tear in space time but looking closer it does kind of look like the japanese islands < 1436714669 90131 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436714714 731812 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tsnryjsmhiwmorit PRIVMSG #esoteric :`multicode 🌎🌏🌍 < 1436714715 564402 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F30E EARTH GLOBE AMERICAS \ UTF-8: f0 9f 8c 8e UTF-16BE: d83cdf0e Decimal: 🌎 \ 🌎 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F30F EARTH GLOBE ASIA-AUSTRALIA \ UTF-8: f0 9f 8c 8f UTF-16BE: d83cdf0f Decimal: 🌏 \ 🌏 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F30D EARTH GLOBE EU < 1436714819 357324 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1436714885 136638 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436715026 493018 :S1!~S1FeHa@p4FF93CC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: S1 < 1436715156 185891 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436715170 234005 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1436715171 979452 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1436716811 355210 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436716845 609304 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436716869 396600 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1436717570 65559 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436717570 973947 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :piet/6Piet 4is 7a 8really 9colorful 2programming 13language. < 1436717652 329526 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436717655 592198 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ramen/拉麵是一種類型的麵條縫製從原始樹木。 < 1436717659 14719 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436717659 868552 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom__hoover/Phantom__Hoover can't decide what an appropriate number of underscores is. < 1436717664 792834 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436717665 757117 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :caps lock/CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR TIRED OLD MEMES < 1436717715 554074 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was some deep meaning somewhere behind the ramen entry... < 1436717737 623219 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of ramens, I'm hungry. < 1436717745 862295 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: HEAVY CHICKEN < 1436718042 325935 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436718043 549247 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for further details for futher details./See `? for further details for futher details. < 1436718758 344030 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436718774 727388 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Client Quit < 1436719161 200333 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436719983 919182 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436720176 212054 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1436721552 260335 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436721713 557837 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436721713 660524 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436722227 230370 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1436722367 786300 :^sez!~^sez@60-240-104-147.static.tpgi.com.au QUIT :Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de < 1436722879 364780 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436723615 799015 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436723874 756065 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1436724499 614561 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1436724603 830054 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436724771 292798 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436725827 710718 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1436725845 795796 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.135 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436725850 548744 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.135 QUIT :Changing host < 1436725850 603011 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436726480 59045 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1436727118 545637 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1436727670 979496 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1436727722 120917 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436728155 776399 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1436728156 481083 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 121900Z 22012KT 15SM FEW040 FEW240 28/21 A2994 RMK SC1CI1 SC TR CU EMBD SLP138 DENSITY ALT 1500FT < 1436728184 804670 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shoo! go away, you moistening TR CU! my laundry needs to dry hth! < 1436728288 172200 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :get a dryer hth < 1436728306 481913 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436728307 508825 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lie/Lies are even easier than monoids. They form groups, known as Lie groups. < 1436728318 714728 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :`monoids < 1436728319 175169 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: monoids: not found < 1436728323 7283 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monoids < 1436728323 919500 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoids are the easy version of categories. < 1436728343 634254 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I can't, there's no dryer outlet in my apartment. < 1436728364 127149 :Inri_Cristo!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1436728368 281494 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436728369 136351 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist/Update notification for the webcomic Homestuck. < 1436728560 52839 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436728973 372291 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1436729288 773974 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436729812 586127 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is now in the Bay Area. < 1436729911 80074 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhelloq. temporarily or permanently? < 1436729928 516301 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1436729949 257818 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Current location: temporary (about the next month). In Bay Area: permanently. < 1436729983 48093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436730439 407911 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYVR < 1436730439 756177 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYVR 121928Z 10009KT 12SM SCT018 BKN030 OVC100 19/15 A3002 RMK CU3SC3AC2 SLP167 DENSITY ALT 300FT < 1436730555 518604 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYZ < 1436730555 827356 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 121900Z 15009KT 120V200 15SM FEW050 FEW160 BKN250 OVC280 28/15 A3001 RMK SC1AC1CI4CC2 SLP159 DENSITY ALT 2000FT < 1436730581 266282 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYOW < 1436730581 473764 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYOW 121900Z 27006KT 160V290 15SM FEW040 SCT180 SCT220 30/19 A2997 RMK CU2AC1CI1 SLP147 DENSITY ALT 2100FT < 1436730599 160864 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYKF < 1436730599 679311 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYKF 121900Z AUTO 24004KT 190V270 9SM OVC050 27/16 A3002 RMK SLP164 DENSITY ALT 2500FT < 1436730644 373072 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYKF? < 1436730687 805007 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, "Region of Waterloo". < 1436730733 36121 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1436732241 9276 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436732618 678341 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436733074 586997 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1436734291 518888 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436734303 509492 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1436734465 132876 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tsnryjsmhiwmorit PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im not going to ask for the thousanth time what metar is < 1436734483 599065 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tsnryjsmhiwmorit PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to though < 1436734485 699260 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436734514 954787 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tsnryjsmhiwmorit PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION resists < 1436734622 796077 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1436734715 258838 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEteorological Terminal Aviation Routine (Weather Report), which looks like a string of words randomly strung together. < 1436734757 690170 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436734762 733355 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That seems to be the most popular expansion, anyway.) < 1436734784 88664 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL < 1436734784 727404 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 122050Z 22008KT 9999 FEW020 18/16 Q1017 NOSIG < 1436734967 507209 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436735054 170177 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm more interested in how to discover what the four-letter codes are (and what the actual report means) < 1436735139 507596 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fellowl. don't resist, METARs are good for you. < 1436735145 402402 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436735172 722382 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the four letter codes at the beginning are ICAO airport codes. < 1436735224 359703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan well system F type inference is known undecidable, so it wouldn't surprise me if the type system were TC; also even in the absence of recursion, simply-typed lambda calculus + imperative constants (variables, while loops, etc.) gives you undecidable equivalence in the presence of free variables < 1436735224 450454 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1436735272 215995 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's Z, with UTC time. the next group is [G]KT, with force of wind in knots. < 1436735309 166100 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :after that, it gets a little bit funky. the only common group between all national standards is / in celsius. < 1436735314 472119 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes the direction is VaRiaBle (VRB). < 1436735358 704487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGBB < 1436735359 154695 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGBB 122050Z 31007KT 9999 SCT036 19/10 Q1015 < 1436735361 527870 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cloud coverage is pretty much the same the world over, but Canadian METARs add in cloud types. < 1436735362 916158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like that's my local one < 1436735378 118324 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436735411 368008 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, Birmingham Airport and the NEC basically form a region of their own < 1436735419 771469 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: for you, 9999 means "nothing to signal about visibility", there are SCaTtered clouds at 3600', it's 19°C outside and air pressure is 101,5 kPa. < 1436735420 793630 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not that close to the heavily populated areas of Birmingham < 1436735439 761330 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(can't remember if the Q group is airfield or sea level pressure.) < 1436735476 156196 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ah, Qxxxx is QNH, therefore sea level.) < 1436735481 135830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1436735481 341880 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 122053Z 27014KT 10SM FEW015 BKN250 24/12 A3005 RMK AO2 SLP175 T02390122 58000 < 1436735500 100349 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EsoAPI14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43464&oldid=41868 5* 0370.190.164.6 5* (+79) 10/* External resources */ fixed my site < 1436735510 353171 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: wouldn't make too much difference here, Birmingham isn't particularly high-lying (although it contains tons of small hills; there's a carpark in the city centre where you can go in at ground level, go up 8 floors, then after using a series of bridges come out at ground level) < 1436735526 390594 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, maybe only 7 floors actually, not sure whether the bottom floor is numbered 0 or 1 < 1436735556 207355 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that IP has no idea how links work in MediaWiki < 1436735557 830575 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1436735558 385888 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 122100Z 24011KT 15SM FEW040 FEW240 30/20 A2991 RMK CU1CI1 CU TR CI TR SLP128 DENSITY ALT 1800FT < 1436735564 21014 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long shall we take for them to notice before fixing it? < 1436735622 598846 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EFHK < 1436735623 50602 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 122050Z 32006KT 9999 FEW035 11/09 Q1008 NOSIG < 1436735632 363964 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good old Finnish summer going on there. < 1436735633 836348 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EsoAPI14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43465&oldid=43464 5* 0370.190.164.6 5* (-2) 10trying that again < 1436735658 963373 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I thought 19/10 was humid, but 11/09 seems much worse < 1436735672 841161 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly it's past midnight. < 1436735712 767011 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :81% relative humidity, says my normal weather website. < 1436735758 886642 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LOWI < 1436735759 338204 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 122050Z 16005KT 120V190 9999 BKN075 FEW075CB 25/11 Q1018 NOSIG < 1436735785 149379 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Heathrow had 18/16. < 1436735986 763787 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hanoi Love14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43466&oldid=43408 5* 0370.190.164.6 5* (+80) 10fixed my site < 1436736053 64153 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hanoi Love14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43467&oldid=43466 5* 0370.190.164.6 5* (+4) 10 < 1436736069 747712 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`somebody needs to learn about the preview option < 1436736070 309383 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: somebody: not found < 1436736115 37942 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They seem to have gotten the link syntax, but I'm not sure why they didn't remove the old link that time. < 1436736640 788633 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94.224.27.215 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436736744 767067 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: buying food < 1436736865 475242 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436737151 877618 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436737234 843793 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Linguine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43468&oldid=13253 5* 0370.190.164.6 5* (+3) 10fixed my site < 1436737452 929935 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Boolfuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43469&oldid=43451 5* 0370.190.164.6 5* (+17) 10/* See also */ add BitChanger < 1436737873 358899 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive JOIN :#esoteric < 1436737897 233018 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hanoi Love14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43470&oldid=43467 5* 0370.190.164.6 5* (+83) 10include link to programs < 1436737928 606779 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Linguine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43471&oldid=43468 5* 0370.190.164.6 5* (-9) 10 < 1436738256 832870 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.135 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436738256 926788 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.135 QUIT :Changing host < 1436738256 926860 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436738629 375527 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436740841 536729 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436741057 640258 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:34a0:43fd:8493:a7c1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436741112 526234 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436741319 230431 :Inri_Cristo!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1436741336 342535 :Inri_Cristo!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1436741467 40095 :Inri_Cristo!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer NICK :h0rsep0wer < 1436742481 673817 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1436742482 203844 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 122300Z 26009KT 15SM FEW040 BKN240 28/20 A2991 RMK CU1CI6 CU TR CU E SLP127 DENSITY ALT 1600FT < 1436742508 747599 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha ha ha, you won't get me you obnoxious CU! fphptptptptptp :P < 1436743501 199749 :kline!~kline@unaffiliated/kline QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1436743541 539493 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436743547 694567 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1436743694 642953 :kline!~kline@unaffiliated/kline JOIN :#esoteric < 1436744003 448785 :ethiraric!~ethiraric@93.ip-5-196-226.eu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436744020 897102 :ethiraric!~ethiraric@93.ip-5-196-226.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436744040 241498 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lzatfxugfvjxzkto QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1436744736 555655 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:21:e9aa:3b73:fdaa QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436745125 242516 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@99-148-190-17.lightspeed.renonv.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436745364 226610 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436745376 522429 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:34a0:43fd:8493:a7c1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436746610 146480 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iwata Satoru passed away. < 1436747376 571042 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1436747652 403093 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1436749554 41658 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist PART #esoteric :"WeeChat 1.2" < 1436750431 219749 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net NICK :Wright < 1436750798 742980 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian JOIN :#esoteric < 1436750929 625050 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: QUADRANGULAR CHICKEN < 1436751939 279562 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436752305 746813 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436752574 147017 :ZombieAlive!~N3cr0naV@unaffiliated/zombiealive QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436753379 257675 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lhartikk.github.io/ArnoldC/ < 1436754547 92272 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@99-148-190-17.lightspeed.renonv.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436754657 230143 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:c4a1:c234:1b5:28b9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436754660 299568 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:c4a1:c234:1b5:28b9 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1436754685 334684 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:c4a1:c234:1b5:28b9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436755328 281859 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:c4a1:c234:1b5:28b9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436755378 373346 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@198.8.80.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436755730 565378 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@198.8.80.55 QUIT :Quit: Left < 1436756444 777093 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get Your Ass To Mars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfu0hpHbIu8 < 1436757444 658377 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/janusVR/comments/3clilu/release_4216_new_selectable_ui_sounds_bugfix/ct0s5ne?context=3 < 1436757448 482706 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well this is a good sign < 1436757636 329761 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436758150 272236 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436759772 385298 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a program to compress MegaZeux boards. Sometimes it works better than DEFLATE, sometimes not. But it almost always results in much better compression with my program is combined with DEFLATE; this results in approx. 1/4 of the original size (the original already having some RLE compression in it). < 1436760022 42749 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436760049 115516 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-094-078.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1436760081 464992 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1436760128 548080 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm reading about brainfuck optimizations and [>] is optimized with a memchr(), why not simply p += strlen(p) ? < 1436760187 572946 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I have used things like that too in various program, but, that depend that such a statement will be optimized by the computer (which therefore has to know what "strlen" means, possibly due to inlining) < 1436760224 66027 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what :D < 1436760292 674471 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most effective way to implement a C code like p += strlen(p); would be more like the brainfuck code [>] < 1436760310 302255 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: the difference is that strlen isn't allowed to read past the '\0' < 1436760311 294549 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1436760316 834862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which limits the optimizations you can do < 1436760336 113189 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :please elaborate < 1436760338 140760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :memchr is allowed to read anywhere in the memory space you give it < 1436760355 794394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what it can do is, it can read four or eight or 128 bytes at a time < 1436760372 450955 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then look for the zeroes within them arithmetically (for the small amounts) or via vector operations (for the large amoutns) < 1436760374 79514 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*amounts < 1436760388 417402 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this doesn't really help much on small distances but can be useful for the large ones < 1436760428 479066 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think all of this also applies to strlen() < 1436760463 965625 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, with strlen < 1436760466 292497 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the size of the memory is known and it is not volatile, then strlen should be allowed to read as much as they want to read at once. < 1436760479 501548 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't read past the terminating '\0' because the size of the memory isn't known < 1436760480 391750 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you're thinking about is the naive strlen that scans the string a byte at a time < 1436760500 578312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you might have memory you aren't allowed to read just after the '\0' < 1436760526 76985 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note that many libcs work around this by forcing memory blocks to be readable as a multiple of, say, 512 bytes, so that they know they can safely overread up to the next multiple of 512) < 1436760549 636582 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is true if the optimizer does not know, unless the allocation and operating system is define to know the alignment of readable memory < 1436760759 272957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like glibc strlen reads 4 bytes at a time: http://www.stdlib.net/~colmmacc/strlen.c.html < 1436760774 809983 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a vectorised strlen would probably beat that for long strings, but lose on short ones < 1436761204 978196 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1436763312 773335 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1436763354 522932 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436763903 60441 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:c4a1:c234:1b5:28b9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436764109 85315 :codergeek42!~pgordon@2602:306:bc32:ada0:221:6aff:fe68:c87c JOIN :#esoteric < 1436764109 397505 :codergeek42!~pgordon@2602:306:bc32:ada0:221:6aff:fe68:c87c QUIT :Changing host < 1436764109 451936 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436764900 751089 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436764901 446 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436765397 405711 :hppavilion1!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436765399 615594 :hppavilion1!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1436766320 114537 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1436766375 365498 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1436766375 419855 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 said 8h 39m 11s ago: well system F type inference is known undecidable, so it wouldn't surprise me if the type system were TC; also even in the absence of recursion, simply-typed lambda calculus + imperative constants (variables, while loops, etc.) gives you undecidable equivalence in the presence of free variables < 1436766409 822174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: System F is not TC, evaluation is terminating < 1436766415 526304 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: or to put things another way, none of this really came as a surprise to me because my thesis was basically on the subject < 1436766417 885304 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's not what I said < 1436766426 215042 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :system F /inference/ is undecidable, and thus probably TC < 1436766435 905938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1436766447 675431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since that's usually how things are proved undecidable < 1436766453 295299 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(undecidable doesn't necessarily imply TC, but it certainly hints heavily about it) < 1436766473 756577 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the proof may well go via TCness; it's a reduction to a similar problem I don't really understand < 1436766484 898307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1436766596 923700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: actually what i was really trying to say was that even it looks like primitive recursion, it might be much more powerful if there are higher-order functions. < 1436766601 315509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*even if < 1436766609 45724 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right < 1436766636 355741 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's reason to believe it's decidable in /this/ case, mostly because if it wasn't that'd probably allow us to construct an infinite loop in simply-typed lambda calculus < 1436766645 103011 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably because the details of the construction haven't been worked out, but they seem very likely) < 1436766686 168467 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas I think you can do primitive recursion in simply-typed lambda calculus via using Church numerals as for loops < 1436766723 409985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that sounds pretty obvious < 1436766767 23735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as the pieces are well-typed < 1436766781 952281 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, the pieces being well-typed is the only non-obvious bit < 1436766784 972545 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's an awkward one < 1436766907 943215 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a suspicion that you can just nest the function types one more level for each loop you use < 1436766916 310973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is purely based on looking at types in a debugger, not on any actual reasoning < 1436767043 454627 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the awkward bit might be if two church numerals were forced to be of different type, because of something like one is used as an argument to the other, but also forced to be used at the same type in another spot < 1436767066 263904 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :-) < 1436767078 490007 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this sort of thing happening is the key observation in my thesis) < 1436767087 969967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1436767153 581505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh if you have a church numeral of type ((a -> a) -> (a -> a)), you can probably _construct_ the same church numeral of type a -> a from it < 1436767162 810548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1436767181 214664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/a/(b -> b)/g < 1436767253 771349 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so perhaps you can substitute both church numerals up to a common type, from which all needed simpler types can be constructed < 1436767274 214692 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that normally doesn't work either, but it does work at first order < 1436767288 683865 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what I think the primitive recursive functions we're trying to implement are < 1436767362 579169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1436767423 131459 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that you can have a type that really wants to be polymorphic, of shape (a -> a), but if you fix any given type for a you can make the return value more general or the argument more specific, but you can't make them both more general or more specific at the same time < 1436767437 895970 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. you can't maintain a "these two things should be the same" situation < 1436767497 408966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1436767621 837377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Schwichtenberg showed in 1976 that in \lambda^\to exactly the extended polynomials are representable as functions over Church numerals; these are roughly the polynomials closed up under a conditional operator." < 1436767655 585590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simply_typed_lambda_calculus#Important_results < 1436767713 293870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's a bit different < 1436767762 782444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since they all have type (o -> o) -> (o -> o) < 1436767796 770846 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while exponentials are possible with nested types < 1436767817 590011 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's the exponentials that are causing problems here < 1436767823 454485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1436767827 760802 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it means that type inference algos have to be able to blow up hyperexponentially < 1436767833 508617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which the obvious algorithms don't, really < 1436767898 348336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you construct each level of a^a^... ackermann? maybe that's enough to show you can do every PR function by then using the result in a big loop < 1436767977 746605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. a fixed number of knuth arrows < 1436767986 169925 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :From http://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/23535/0000494.pdf: STLC is decidable in E^4 time but not in E^3 < 1436768007 762949 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that PR = \Union_k E^k < 1436768029 471626 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ackermann function is something like a supremum of primiive recursive functions, right? < 1436768039 541056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah that's what i was thinking < 1436768077 294595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm Jafet's observation should mean it breaks down at 3 or 4 arrows < 1436768160 277870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps to do exponentiation, you _must_ have different types for the arguments, which breaks down if you try to iterate them. < 1436768189 284369 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess the next challenge is to construct an STLC program that takes a Church numeral as argument, and iterates a given function four-arrow-many times of that Church numeral < 1436768211 802478 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe just two arrow < 1436768220 183907 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*arrow < 1436768222 841854 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*arrows < 1436768254 527167 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :two arrows is tetration, right? < 1436768254 732407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that E-notation starts at increment or the like, E^3 might be exponentiation < 1436768258 56060 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1436768261 866483 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can read that paper, you might be able to use its gadgets for E^3 < 1436768270 284810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my current guess is you cannot do tetration < 1436768291 848141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION leaves ais523 to read the paper < 1436768294 370008 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I can't think of an obvious way to tetrate with Church numerals and no loop < 1436768364 485799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*leaves it to < 1436768476 469124 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, hmm < 1436768571 705096 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"elementary" means essentially using arithmetic and exponentiation, no? < 1436768598 633475 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436768599 899099 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=54479 is this NP? < 1436768613 894031 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the last comment) < 1436768643 25187 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't know < 1436768644 462861 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually elementary is not a very discrete concept, but it's probably that range of growth < 1436768653 657139 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the normal meaning is "not using calculus" but I don't think that's the intended meaning here < 1436768682 834072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well exponentials are the fastest growest of the building blocks allowed < 1436768687 227818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*growing < 1436768710 588393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well < 1436768717 454056 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELEMENTARY < 1436768718 345025 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: it depends a lot on your definition; you can verify in O(n) time where n is the /answer/ (i.e. how long it takes) < 1436768719 552799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some asymptotes, but avoiding them < 1436768732 740570 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, loops are clearly useless in that langauge < 1436768734 453656 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*language < 1436768763 364276 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's O(n) in the length of the question too < 1436768764 794997 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you have to verify that it's the quickest way < 1436768788 824977 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: actually I'm thinking of something more like reducing this to an existing NP-complete problem < 1436768796 795171 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like bin-packing, perhaps < 1436768810 790964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not exactly that < 1436768822 683762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: ah that's about as i thought < 1436768877 29929 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1436768961 230234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: i think this is P^NP stuff, you need to solve an NP problem to find the answer, and the corresponding co-NP problem to show there's no faster one < 1436768962 353923 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's beta-conversion defined here? you can beta-reduce both terms in arbitrary ways to try to make them the same? < 1436769003 59982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: which is often colloquially lumped in with NP-complete, e.g. the traveling salesman problem < 1436769014 752912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but technically is not the same < 1436769078 131157 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/to find the answer/to check the answer/ < 1436769086 411087 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotcha < 1436769106 770518 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to encode a decision procedure in STLC, so beta-conversion just computes the result (which will be true or false) < 1436769124 927625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, we still haven't proved the "-complete" part. < 1436769198 532156 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's for the E^3 lower bound, not for the E^4 upper bound) < 1436769258 917173 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:34a0:43fd:8493:a7c1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436769613 591295 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1436769677 158807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hm wait, that ([0 -> 0/0]a_n)a_1 example on page 75 makes me wonder < 1436769689 127993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's clearly a building block for tetration < 1436769716 531438 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the types do _not_ increase as n does. < 1436769775 828233 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1436769806 813946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1436769811 40258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm misreading < 1436769824 218388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 -> 0 isn't a type there < 1436769828 624624 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord < 1436769833 528501 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it < 1436769836 747435 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :any book recommendation about game theory? < 1436769841 905047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid alien notation < 1436769880 803321 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: each of those a_n has a different type, so the tetration is bounded < 1436769887 560960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh i'm misreading, that notation means precisely that the types _are_ growing < 1436769897 196896 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, that makes more sense at least < 1436769900 412278 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking, if you were right < 1436769905 322551 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think [0->0/0] means replacing 0 by 0->0 < 1436769914 690434 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you'd probably be able to surpass the E^4 bound < 1436769915 614655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: yeah just realized that < 1436770096 982027 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oddly enough, this causes the types to have exponential size < 1436770113 4196 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is the maximum for a Hindley-Milner type system) < 1436770129 577921 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1436770173 873781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "By analyzing the normal form algorithm [...] it is easy to see that the problem can be solved in E^4 time" this might mean that it's easier to prove that you cannot go _higher_ than tetration. < 1436770208 56006 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, given how cited that paper is < 1436770215 331600 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone has probably determined the exact boundary by now < 1436770230 28431 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(when a paper has over 100 citations, either it's very influential, or everyone has been copying citation without reading it; possibly both) < 1436770248 22025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1436770394 580982 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1436770394 722540 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436770629 680064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `unicode zero width space <-- i don't think FreeFull's problem was with `culprits, but with direct use of hg log < 1436770637 212884 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436770677 717146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which we've started to do whenever we want to see _what_ was changed rather than just by who < 1436770724 733933 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits bin/culprits | awk '{print $1}' < 1436770726 563548 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet < 1436770746 933685 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, my client discards the control character, so I didn't know it existed < 1436770775 634203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well surely you noted it in the culprits code before you changed it < 1436770787 118754 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1436770807 597559 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's this, reading code before patching it? < 1436770810 987457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits < 1436770811 948950 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed "$1" | grep summary: | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs < 1436770852 94760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits culprits < 1436770854 113368 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436770856 709020 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/culprits < 1436770858 610234 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet Jafet tswett tswett shachaf shachaf shachaf FireFly FireFly FireFly FireFly FireFly FireFly shachaf < 1436771004 92399 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone who happens to have php5 installed via a Linuxy package manager (which shows what it's updating, if you ask): /wow/ a lot of security bugs are being fixed in this update < 1436771038 225905 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/culprits | grep summary: < 1436771039 537885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14, I just counted < 1436771040 93217 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436771046 688209 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1436771049 641559 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log bin/culprits | grep summary: < 1436771051 109073 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: ` echo -E \'hg log --removed "$1" | grep summary: | awk \'\\\'\'{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}\'\\\'\' | sed "s/.$/\\x0F&/" | xargs\' > bin/culprits && chmod +x bin/culprits \ summary: ` sed -i -e \'s,$, | sed "s/\\\\([][{}\\\\^a-zA-Z0-9_|\\\\\\\\\\\\`-]\\\\)\\\\([][{}\\\\^a-zA-Z0-9_|\\\\\\\\\\\\`-]\\\\+\\\\)/\\\ < 1436771073 160194 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is too confusing tdnh < 1436771080 18584 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did Jafet change? < 1436771087 858698 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 14 drops in the ocean < 1436771091 410534 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't do php, and I don't even have it installed. < 1436771110 166626 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like having a bunch of interps around < 1436771126 426007 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on here, PHP doesn't run unless I'm running it manually, which means the attack surface is pretty small < 1436771145 621474 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sure, me to, but I also think that you definitely can't do all four of perl, python, ruby, and php, so I choose to just not do php < 1436771158 428961 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, some golfers do code all four < 1436771164 572588 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't think that's a good idea < 1436771185 962270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think he changed it back hth < 1436771197 353602 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :installing all four is no problem of course < 1436771202 476209 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that's a lot of backslashes < 1436771210 329298 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :only actually doing stuff with them < 1436771253 222604 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix show < 1436771254 385912 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\... < 1436771312 899603 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell can be just as magical-looking as Prolog sometimes < 1436771322 463092 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, is there a Haskell string that evaluates to itself? < 1436771330 718746 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps using some other escape syntax < 1436771336 247451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing not, most languages don't have one < 1436771344 270114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i think some of them are hg itself escaping < 1436771344 730043 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :clock golfs in almost any language on the planet . < 1436771349 183543 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sure, that one above < 1436771355 375723 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :barring Perl/PHP-style barewords which is cheating < 1436771359 610668 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: finitely long, I mean < 1436771361 207688 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he's usually the best in all of them. < 1436771361 511086 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1436771367 647785 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and you mean string literal? < 1436771371 143413 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1436771380 579272 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because just an expression would be easy < 1436771435 222806 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think haskell string literals have anything that can make a string longer than the code < 1436771435 575553 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every time you interpret a finite string literal in haskell, its number of backslashes decreases < 1436771440 595840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1436771460 899087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* < 1436771494 704414 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least it does not increase < 1436771522 745463 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: and if you include the "s, it must decrease < 1436771561 150989 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the number of character does always decrease < 1436771561 242849 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for escaping backslashes, I prefer "\"\x5c\"\x5cx5c\x5c\"\x5cx5cx5c\x5cx5c\x5c\"\x5cx5cx5cx5c\x5cx5cx5c\x5cx5c\x5c\"\x5cx5cx5cx5cx5c\x5cx5cx5cx5c\x5cx5cx5c\x5cx5c\x5c\"\x5cx5cx5cx5cx5cx5c... < 1436771567 763665 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The number of backslashes might not < 1436771646 34725 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436771670 319979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> id<>show$"id<>show$" < 1436771671 600272 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "id<>show$\"id<>show$\"" < 1436771675 553887 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436771705 313160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> id<>show$"id<>show$" -- for ais523 < 1436771706 751173 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "id<>show$\"id<>show$\"" < 1436771708 779569 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436771744 855575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1436771760 233104 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text$ap(++)show"text$ap(++)show" < 1436771761 465598 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : text$ap(++)show"text$ap(++)show" < 1436771780 476696 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's the old one < 1436771796 318526 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, are we /golfing/ quines now < 1436771802 765283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1436771837 53730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var$id<>show$"var$id<>show" < 1436771838 378528 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : var$id<>show"var$id<>show" < 1436771846 253260 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: sure, people do that. I know a number of short non-empty ones in perl. < 1436771890 98422 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we think the shortest non-empty non-cheating one is "print<< x2,$/\nprint<< x2,$/\n\n" < 1436771902 911891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :var is better for two reasons (1) it's shorter (2) it works with infinite strings < 1436771917 807466 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's among printing ones, not those that return a string or something < 1436771945 478838 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t text < 1436771946 507993 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :String -> Doc < 1436771958 540879 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436771982 191258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :text is from a pretty-printing library, and insists on knowing the length of the string for formatting < 1436772020 500491 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason, I thought it had something to do with Text < 1436772024 15087 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> T.pack "" < 1436772025 89282 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘T.pack’ < 1436772025 143489 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant ‘BS.pack’ (imported from Data.ByteString) < 1436772030 278098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1436772073 914644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var$cycle"var$\"" < 1436772075 125744 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : var$"var$"var$"var$"var$"var$"var$"var$"var$"var$"var$"var$"var$"var$"var$"v... < 1436772079 128521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1436772083 43753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var$cycle"var\"" < 1436772084 225637 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : var"var"var"var"var"var"var"var"var"var"var"var"var"var"var"var"var"var"var"... < 1436772124 682828 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix var < 1436772125 811652 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match type ‘Expr’ with ‘[Char]’ < 1436772125 866013 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: Expr -> Expr < 1436772125 866077 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Actual type: String -> Expr < 1436772141 713331 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess that's not proper syntax < 1436772175 884421 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix$var.("var++").show.show < 1436772177 111213 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type ‘String -> String’ < 1436772177 214010 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type ‘[Char]’ < 1436772177 268280 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of ‘(.)’, namely ‘("var++")’ < 1436772179 215408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1436772184 149853 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1436772198 971989 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix $ var.show < 1436772202 706764 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1436772218 504608 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix$var.("var++").show < 1436772219 646319 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type ‘String -> String’ < 1436772219 700652 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type ‘[Char]’ < 1436772219 700699 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of ‘(.)’, namely ‘("var++")’ < 1436772228 613267 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :now we just need an interpreter that can interpret infinite streams (I think that's impossible) < 1436772229 707647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...duh < 1436772234 893120 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for haskell at least)\ < 1436772237 202996 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix$var.("var"++).show.show < 1436772238 419167 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : var"var\"var\\\"var\\\\\\\"var\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"var\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\... < 1436772246 952371 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's probably possible for BF) < 1436772247 817417 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION good morning < 1436772259 104811 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not, because of loops < 1436772269 934220 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanellob < 1436772304 903606 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, do you just want a quine using var? < 1436772314 39191 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I wrote one at some point, but I'm not sure I saved it < 1436772315 459088 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a finite one < 1436772347 117897 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i already made one up there < 1436772358 264076 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1436772359 93821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this last thing was just for amusement < 1436772401 196645 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I saved it, but I could write one from scratch probably (it would be a bit long) < 1436772441 469840 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I experimented it when I wanted to put lambdabot and some other bot in a bot loop, but that turned out to be impossible for that combination < 1436772506 881480 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, spambots pretending to be the IMF, and they don't mention Greece < 1436772509 664099 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :missing a trick there < 1436772521 942524 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tsnryjsmhiwmorit PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y1GbBhu9hA < 1436772726 237632 :hppavilion1!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436774266 329257 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:34a0:43fd:8493:a7c1 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1436774505 743734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 🌍 < 1436774506 873032 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F30D EARTH GLOBE EUROPE-AFRICA \ UTF-8: f0 9f 8c 8d UTF-16BE: d83cdf0d Decimal: 🌍 \ 🌍 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1436774853 31998 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many differently rotated projections of the Earth does Unicode have? < 1436774862 309006 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm amused at the qualifier) < 1436774869 576634 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there one where australia is the center? < 1436774957 774431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` multicode 🌎🌏🌍 #from logs < 1436774958 623549 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F30E EARTH GLOBE AMERICAS \ UTF-8: f0 9f 8c 8e UTF-16BE: d83cdf0e Decimal: 🌎 \ 🌎 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F30F EARTH GLOBE ASIA-AUSTRALIA \ UTF-8: f0 9f 8c 8f UTF-16BE: d83cdf0f Decimal: 🌏 \ 🌏 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F30D EARTH GLOBE EU < 1436774994 223782 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just looking at the logs, and checked the last one because it got cut off < 1436775049 336128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode EARTH GLOBE < 1436775050 526548 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F30D EARTH GLOBE EUROPE-AFRICA \ UTF-8: f0 9f 8c 8d UTF-16BE: d83cdf0d Decimal: 🌍 \ 🌍 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F30E EARTH GLOBE AMERICAS \ UTF-8: f0 9f 8c 8e UTF-16BE: d83cdf0e Decimal: 🌎 \ 🌎 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F30F EARTH GLOBE ASI < 1436775105 796139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unicode EARTH GLOBE | tail -n +9 < 1436775106 917764 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​🌎 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F30F EARTH GLOBE ASIA-AUSTRALIA \ UTF-8: f0 9f 8c 8f UTF-16BE: d83cdf0f Decimal: 🌏 \ 🌏 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1436775114 602181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently that's all < 1436775129 783879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should add ARCTIC and ANTARCTICA < 1436775172 994548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ANTARCTICA < 1436775173 988711 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1436775176 75491 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: um, you know there's more possibilities than fit in unicode if you want to add all possible maps < 1436775204 757098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: these are globe maps < 1436775243 31001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they should also add ATLANTIC and PACIFIC < 1436775270 421105 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: even just globe maps < 1436775285 45796 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is so silly of the consortium. It would be so much simpler if we had combining characters for moving 1° by latitude and longitude < 1436775288 800906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :EARTH GLOBE DYNAMAX < 1436775317 240652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm must have the name wrong < 1436775325 659498 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: :D < 1436775341 203848 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: yeah, but make sure to choose a set of two or more combining characters that together efficiently generate a dense set in all possible maps < 1436775364 396816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's easy, just have 1 RADIAN and 1 DEGREE < 1436775365 13822 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google dymaxion projection < 1436775366 53259 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dymaxion_map < 1436775371 584894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah that was it < 1436775682 661180 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait they need to be around different axes < 1436775713 576824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm and degrees divide a full rotation, maybe not so good < 1436775733 637831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps radian will work both ways, with the right axis choices < 1436775809 784337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm i think the character should represent something like golden ratio of the full rotation < 1436775837 500675 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way you can efficiently do large rotations, but still divide as finely as you want < 1436776114 549978 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436776495 465410 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436776562 866003 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436777595 783366 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1436779579 414620 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1436780391 848430 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i translate this to c if my cells wrap around at 8 bit? [+>++<] < 1436780437 71495 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :p[1] += p[0] * 2; p[0] = 0 <- like this? < 1436780453 960345 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's the difference between that and [->++<] ? < 1436780471 530097 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1436780484 950509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a minus sign, i presume < 1436780498 74548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in the C too) < 1436780515 993096 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it becomes p[1] -= ... < 1436780517 667278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you need to use unsigned 8bit type in C for that to work < 1436780524 954334 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes ok < 1436780527 337081 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's unsigned < 1436780541 556194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it's undefined behavior when you wrap < 1436780583 205351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i think it's your first which is wrong and should have the - < 1436780606 969789 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok the first one is -= and the latter is += < 1436780612 143539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1436780613 600835 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1436780834 976140 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1436782393 116288 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wooo maps, Jafet < 1436782487 273138 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also oerjan there are "real spherical angles" < 1436782491 501024 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sradians? < 1436782670 879693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :irrelevant hth < 1436782671 78869 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: [->++<] is p[1] += p[0] * 2; p[0] = 0 [->--<] is p[1] -= p[0] * 2; p[0] = 0 < 1436782686 957881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was to |f`-`|f) < 1436782694 33394 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :k :P < 1436782700 106271 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what are [+>++<] and [+>--<] ? < 1436782714 873356 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :endless loops < 1436782719 107818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same, in opposite order < 1436782720 104115 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1436782727 939491 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1436782742 493139 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: my cells are unsigned chars < 1436782748 272679 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1436782768 178250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[+>++<] and [->--<] give the same result < 1436782811 278904 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1436782813 379982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you are essentially adding a multiple of 256 somewhere, which doesn't matter < 1436782845 119942 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth? oerjan < 1436782854 153096 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What/s so pertinent about maps < 1436782875 206944 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hth < 1436782877 461018 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: hth: not found < 1436782878 59411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :|f`-`|f: we were just discussing how many global map characters unicode should have < 1436782885 117629 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?hth < 1436782885 172003 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are welcome < 1436782891 981089 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn bots < 1436782898 340294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it was suggest you'd have just one, and combining characters to rotate it < 1436782902 766445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*suggested < 1436782910 388185 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, metachatacters < 1436782915 663439 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1436782920 742516 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :domain specific ones < 1436782951 838804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point, they should clearly work on other chars too < 1436782960 276043 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :curious how you can efficiently pack the metacharacters and so on < 1436782974 968693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that was considered. < 1436782986 663382 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering how many duplications I've seen < 1436782988 860028 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1436783036 995229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?hth < 1436783037 49720 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are welcome < 1436783041 887411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?hthu < 1436783041 941617 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are welcome < 1436783044 721581 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For multilingual things, it'd probably be better to have partial tables, such that all ligments are here, but here, have a table that compiles them together for a specific language < 1436783046 960038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?hmm < 1436783047 14387 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1436783053 233690 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?huh < 1436783053 287959 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: run bug < 1436783066 199857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?ht < 1436783066 290676 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: wn what v thx rc pl let id ghc do bf @ ? . < 1436783074 349471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?thx < 1436783074 403807 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are welcome < 1436783077 511762 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual place being irrelevant < 1436783082 50642 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?wtf < 1436783082 105043 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: wn bf < 1436783087 951481 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?wn bf < 1436783090 141514 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "bf". < 1436783097 268368 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?wn < 1436783097 371266 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :wn .......... WordNet (r) 1.7 < 1436783102 359030 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?bf < 1436783102 499066 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Done. < 1436783110 782677 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1436783123 447708 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1436783132 762261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?bf ++++++++[->++++++++<]>. < 1436783132 816477 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : @ < 1436783138 170551 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?help wn < 1436783138 224824 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :wn .......... WordNet (r) 1.7 < 1436783145 222241 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as far as certainl languages, you just create a simple subdomain interpreter that creates a nicely organised typeset) < 1436783178 117050 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :|f`-`|f: note that one of the purposes of unicode is to be able to combine languages in one document < 1436783200 961917 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm < 1436783218 463762 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not have the dense data included? < 1436783266 965900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can just imagine IRC messages trying to include a whole language database whenever you try to quote something foreign... < 1436783274 582535 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode Base would be no rules, Unicode would be subdomain < 1436783287 379991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure that should fit nicely within 510 bytes < 1436783302 271894 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode Lang would formt in Unicode Base < 1436783315 533517 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So reading would be simple < 1436783320 693756 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing would be a bit more complicated < 1436783359 620141 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would that fit better? < 1436783415 352228 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just install the writeLang interpretter so you don't need to write raw unicode < 1436783485 85810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't precisely care about this < 1436783499 702372 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ech < 1436783506 595338 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1436783508 71158 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd get around the 510 byte issue < 1436783522 217531 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't these called charsets? < 1436783545 119601 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum < 1436783578 19579 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monolithic charset, but you don't need to screw around chaining the metacharacters to build your language's letters < 1436783601 209936 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436783628 636107 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no need to install charsets to copy foreign characters < 1436783635 390684 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436783694 764955 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you thinking of something like what LaTeX does? < 1436783749 954457 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1436783755 881070 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, actually < 1436783919 142006 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that has caused so many hard-to-figure-out errors < 1436783936 795503 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it turns out that copy-and-pasting in LyX had placed language change codes in the middle of raw LaTeX that I was using for something else < 1436783961 876168 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :after a while, my immediate reaction upon seeing weird errors was to reformat the entire relevant text as "Language: Reset" < 1436784076 166038 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1436784185 414897 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm < 1436784360 514852 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could help with better error handling, there is probably a lot of breathing room for what amounts to a system that does keybind macros < 1436784411 326196 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then there's the multi-byte system that japan uses which is context-based < 1436784820 492453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1436786183 83657 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CHANNELLED CHICKEN < 1436786229 721083 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1436786634 178262 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: lunchtime < 1436788055 887047 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ads causing seizures... < 1436788060 482446 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting. < 1436788512 805533 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436789440 4102 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-211.rentec.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436789462 958942 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43472&oldid=42644 5* 0387.78.59.131 5* (+90) 10added ArnoldC < 1436789614 405049 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-211.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436790997 26975 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436791607 52469 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1436792159 383770 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:c4a1:c234:1b5:28b9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436792203 377266 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:394b:e110:8923:88d9:a89c:84bf JOIN :#esoteric < 1436793008 34831 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1436793021 559836 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436793072 456312 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436793357 348425 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1436794172 962260 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436794953 415571 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436795339 763419 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436795820 663654 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna make an esolang called fnord. < 1436795823 582150 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric : . < 1436795984 483161 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Dot? < 1436796041 190340 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1436796047 672528 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was to emphasize my irony < 1436796319 516760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: going home < 1436797460 368331 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-yntecdnfteyesoci QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436797555 320674 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436797825 265743 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436798005 291448 :mauris__!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1436798212 886793 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1436800737 300338 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1436801344 82951 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBS < 1436801635 32338 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1436801635 157914 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :*.net *.split < 1436801635 224757 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder QUIT :*.net *.split < 1436801635 279383 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1436801635 279453 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1436801636 382542 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-50-112-124-255.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1436801636 758289 :SirCmpwn!~sircmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1436801643 252819 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett QUIT :*.net *.split < 1436801644 653732 :SirCmpwn!~sircmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436801651 337022 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e JOIN :#esoteric < 1436801655 237236 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-50-112-124-255.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436801708 1319 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436801888 589213 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder JOIN :#esoteric < 1436802049 103191 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436802951 717978 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436803662 175450 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1436804025 20756 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 NICK :tswett < 1436804378 218485 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436804471 411231 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :my interpreter completed mandelbrot.b for the first time http://arin.ga/fIQ2zG/raw \o/ < 1436804497 641872 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woo < 1436804602 743171 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1436804659 425353 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436804903 624310 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1436805388 996381 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436806071 81216 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favourite programming language is Powerpoint < 1436806199 868899 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't joke about that man < 1436806211 781452 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of my early job was programming on Office < 1436806215 830462 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :With VBA D: < 1436806218 841858 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :the horror < 1436806803 675237 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :no...# < 1436806807 382585 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant without VBA < 1436806856 662830 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Powerpoint, without VBA, is one of the best programming languages ever - welcome to finite state automaton, cleansed and polished with the power of eye cand < 1436806858 939925 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :candy* < 1436807041 547498 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm bored, I wanna make a programming language, any ideas? < 1436807063 787360 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436807069 637168 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duck language < 1436807071 946397 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quack :V < 1436807079 761188 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hia <3 < 1436807090 295131 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :...naah < 1436807094 999773 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a lot of idea in esolang wiki, I made the list of ideas at first but now a lot of people do, therefore there is more stuff now than it was at first. < 1436807095 766521 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haer this is the place to talk about eso lang? < 1436807099 448779 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1436807113 843569 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of question about esolang you would have? < 1436807117 141510 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ik... I've taken a look before... I guess I'll look again < 1436807119 736900 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rad < 1436807124 988240 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION settles down to lurk < 1436807146 564719 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 --> nah its just something I find really intresting < 1436807156 858480 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1436807226 328615 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about we create a program that could replace every other program, and then the compiler would compile everything to that program? < 1436807229 733439 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :_256Q: Look at the wiki; also, this IRC is logged and we actually discuss all sort of various stuff regardless, but if you have question/comment about esoteric programming you can please post them on this IRC we can answer it (since that is the main purpose ofsuch IRC) < 1436807238 919294 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, Soviet Script taken to the extreme where there's only one true program < 1436807250 641476 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... that is boring. < 1436807273 252810 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A language in which every valid piece of music (or maybe just for only piano, only violin, only voice, etc) compiles and runs without error (and does something). It would be more interesting if simpler (beginner) pieces were simpler programs, and more complex pieces (such as Rachmaninov) were more complex programs." < 1436807275 406369 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1436807283 4884 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait... am I spamming the chat? -.- < 1436807305 73373 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry... < 1436807336 601550 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I think it is OK for what you can write < 1436807435 980300 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok... < 1436807454 857612 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like any of these ideas -.- < 1436807551 407383 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then make a better one < 1436807599 567867 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you think I'm looking for ideas? < 1436808094 51200 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436808094 301859 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436808421 859311 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.2 < 1436808457 56032 :paul2520!~paul2520@paulkaefer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436808457 350433 :paul2520!~paul2520@paulkaefer.com QUIT :Changing host < 1436808457 404745 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436809631 582866 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.2 < 1436809677 864888 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read about putting a backdoor into "login" program by modifying the C compiler so that when it compiles itself it will compile the one to compile the login program with backdoors. There have been a few ideas of countering such attacks, but I have had a different idea even the first time I read it, which is to: Write a BASIC interpreter in C, and then write a C compiler (or even interpreter) in BASIC, and run the original C compiler using that (or < 1436810118 1281 :paul2520!~paul2520@paulkaefer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436810118 55647 :paul2520!~paul2520@paulkaefer.com QUIT :Changing host < 1436810118 55691 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436811259 936882 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e PRIVMSG #esoteric :or? < 1436811305 290126 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tsnryjsmhiwmorit QUIT :Quit: zz < 1436811333 94338 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, writing a C compiler in BASIC sounds... tedious, to say the least. < 1436811361 664855 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but, then you will have a C compiler in BASIC. < 1436811377 687561 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e PRIVMSG #esoteric :true. < 1436811400 60808 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1436811483 699123 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you not use a meta language to genirate a C compiler in basic? < 1436811498 764490 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least speed up the creation < 1436811507 69262 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1436811819 317495 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436811986 842304 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-xwfwewkipjccvamy JOIN :#esoteric < 1436811989 88204 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-xwfwewkipjccvamy QUIT :Excess Flood < 1436812231 836180 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-aztandwyotqnkqxt JOIN :#esoteric < 1436812247 183957 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-aztandwyotqnkqxt QUIT :Changing host < 1436812247 238383 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:boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436827297 704803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ciaoily < 1436827341 469605 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :au revoerjan! < 1436827670 533361 :llue!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436827670 677213 :llue!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1436827670 731430 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436827670 731488 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1436827674 611126 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-aztandwyotqnkqxt QUIT :Quit: zz < 1436828221 263888 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: DECOHERENT CHICKEN < 1436828595 413370 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-rwogdzvbkzvnfqze JOIN :#esoteric < 1436828597 632830 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-rwogdzvbkzvnfqze QUIT :Excess Flood < 1436828899 95863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome _256Q < 1436828900 103663 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04_256Q: 07Welcome 08to 09the 02international 06hub 13for 04esoteric 07programming 08language 09design 02and 06deployment! 13For 04more 07information, 08check 09out 02our 06wiki: 13. 04(For 07the 08other 09kind 02of 06esoterica, 13try 04#esoteric 07on 08EFnet 09or 02DALnet.) < 1436828920 872747 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hia <3 < 1436828933 452825 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is crazy colorfull, I love it < 1436828952 342504 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-evpmqmvlrfdpbwkm JOIN :#esoteric < 1436829946 510478 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436830077 558181 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436830090 538312 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436830090 592503 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1436830090 592549 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436830124 511442 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436830142 336852 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436830157 487358 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436830384 128847 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Jackass14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43474 5* 03Phase 5* (+776) 10Jackass spec start < 1436832843 154630 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1436833165 716698 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436833265 34193 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436833290 697839 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to prove that chess is turing complete (given a board with an infinitely repeating periodic portion) < 1436833323 815786 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have this as a "conveyor belt" to force the white king to move along a path: < 1436833329 844339 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/V8fQu11y < 1436833341 116486 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Phase14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43475&oldid=43424 5* 03Phase 5* (+14) 10/* Jackass */ I did that thang < 1436833354 994202 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :black has to check that white king every move or else he gets checkmated < 1436833444 619387 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also have to figure out how to do a wire crossing and a memory cell < 1436833485 770258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure having a side have more than one king is cheating < 1436833577 372695 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to figure out the easier version (with multiple checkmatable kings) first < 1436833581 161756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's some kind of proof that chess is something-big-complete with arbitrary finite boardsize, it might be possible to adapt that < 1436833671 716776 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also possible that I might have to do some processing in the infinitely repeating section instead of just using it as an infinite tape < 1436833703 252752 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly if processing requires something non-undoable like pawn movement (for instance if you keep the 50 move rule) < 1436833760 47818 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Generalised chess is supposedly EXPTIME-complete (on square boards) < 1436833769 685762 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :intuitively it has to be possible to build a turing machive out of this, if they figured out how to do it in the game of life... < 1436833774 196509 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure what kind of generalisation it is < 1436833809 209615 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you invent new pieces it becomes too easy < 1436833829 982459 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The initial layout surely matters as well. < 1436833838 911821 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's more a challenge of requiring as few extra rules as possible < 1436833843 925199 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Jackass14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43476&oldid=43474 5* 03Phase 5* (+329) 10more operations < 1436833873 330869 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah basically the initial layout is the program < 1436834231 403863 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436834304 159175 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason for multikings is that otherwise it's really hard to keep rooks on the same line < 1436834986 900820 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, if you need non-undoable stuff like pawn movement or captures, you possibly need a 2d infinite grid instead of just a 1d infinite section < 1436835006 856952 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to process along one dimension and store data along the other < 1436835125 775287 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does a turing machine work in a competitive game, anyway < 1436835190 370216 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you fix white to play and win (or not lose) and then interpret the moves as output < 1436835385 688420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if wikipedia has had an article as front page feature for a second time before < 1436835389 955523 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1436835400 746448 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the malbolge version, I guess: the programmer gives a position, then the interpreter chooses an arbitrary optimal move for each side < 1436835407 307211 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1436835409 948939 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not exactly sure but if the white player can force a win, the machine halts < 1436835414 10062 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So e.g. to make a truth machine, the programmer needs to set up a forced draw < 1436835433 394916 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually you can probably get a single binary output < 1436835454 262997 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:37f7:cac0:b945:1578:669:1288 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436835460 800427 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can the white player force a win? < 1436835475 407788 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436835480 873230 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or can the black player force a win? < 1436835552 235772 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:34a0:43fd:8493:a7c1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436835589 280281 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or designate some pieces as outputs, so any move of those pieces outputs a white or black bit < 1436835677 68025 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436835700 639715 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1436835711 527518 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can designate some paths < 1436835731 361402 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if the king moves on the left path, outputs 1, if it moves on the right path, outputs 0 < 1436835774 680940 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Client Quit < 1436835776 353572 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for turing completeness I think even only halt vs non-halt is sufficient < 1436835809 989068 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you can put in the input program which of the output bits you want to output < 1436835815 510869 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and make a multibit output < 1436835818 480798 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way < 1436835842 292395 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then in the input program you also have a bit that says if you're testing the current output bit for 0 or 1 < 1436835852 704017 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if it matches, halt, if it doesn't match, loop < 1436835873 398250 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436835873 452575 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Client Quit < 1436835888 551442 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you race both versions against each other and the one that halts first gives you the answer < 1436836422 823597 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436836723 745836 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you do when you add a ton of code that's supposed to replace a different ton of code but when you do it everything breaks? < 1436836796 387461 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cry < 1436836817 284469 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1436836819 978088 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what < 1436836981 741693 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such is the capricious nature of code. < 1436837020 401453 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:34a0:43fd:8493:a7c1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Use a debugger < 1436837111 763173 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Jackass14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43477&oldid=43476 5* 03Phase 5* (+280) 10/* Operation List */ More operations < 1436837360 638837 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should be apprenticeships for code: young, agile code can learn a lot by working under mature code (perhaps even a "master") < 1436837417 151118 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's a question of size < 1436837424 46181 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe your problem is big < 1436837443 63365 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the solution is going to be messy no matter what < 1436839943 243302 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1436840122 308021 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436840409 631002 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1436840517 829999 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1436840951 148020 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can apparently register a domain name in the cook islands with a .co. to get .co.ck at the end of your domain name < 1436841148 475294 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.google.co.ck/ < 1436841312 947019 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:37f7:cac0:c949:dddc:6da5:f841 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436841609 165856 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If your code is modular, perhaps you can run both solutions, and log when the new code < 1436841622 496655 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gives an answer different from the old < 1436841725 404912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION *so* tempted to do a "you should have used haskell" joke < 1436841737 796752 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why should i < 1436841797 441411 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :please elaborate :P < 1436841806 389195 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :its strong flexible typing makes refactoring unusually painless hth < 1436841839 494237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the disadvantage is you have to learn to use it first, which is not as painless. < 1436841880 559483 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :my refactoring will be painless as soon as i fix the bug < 1436841895 264830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just use a year or three to learn haskell, and afterward refactoring will be painless.) < 1436841900 48858 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1436841948 410787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well type system and purity / referential transparency < 1436842018 129376 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Wire-crossing problem14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43478&oldid=20511 5* 03174.109.246.19 5* (+1125) 10/* Possible proof of planarity turing completeness? */ new section < 1436842019 70180 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :typeless languages have their merits < 1436842031 519361 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but not for refactoring. < 1436842351 723669 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :still wondering what types have to do with refactoring < 1436842389 988092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they make it likely that the compiler will complain if you move something to the wrong spot < 1436842504 256204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that in haskell you don't just type ordinary values, but also actions < 1436842510 727583 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :AH-HA FOUND THE F BUG < 1436842520 342983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :congrats! < 1436842521 12832 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm the queen of refactoring < 1436842641 368008 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it didn't work < 1436842654 38684 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard < 1436843302 142714 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:34a0:43fd:8493:a7c1 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1436843759 265042 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, how about Factor? It lets you factor into smaller pieces without as much worry about types < 1436843775 697210 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although changing things outright could still be an issue < 1436844094 436327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't really know factor, but concatenative with dynamic types doesn't immediately encourage me < 1436844173 714514 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are .co.uk domains so cheap? < 1436844304 958060 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh they actually changed the /r/haskell CSS, just as i was reloading the tab about it to finish reading it... < 1436844502 974333 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pizzas again < 1436844518 925103 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Due to the input syntax you will not necessarily get perfect idempotency for free with RDF, although depending on what needs to be done, in some cases the schema can be defined so that it does not matter; you can also easily avoid it in the input files in the cases where it does matter, for example by using absolute URIs based on a canonical name or whatever. < 1436844700 693313 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1436846285 115605 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1436846449 714851 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there. no more using stupid webhosting sites. from now on I'll just upload things to my own website < 1436846490 506650 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arin.ga/X3Sh9D/raw at least one of these is wrong, can you help me find it please? >.< < 1436846672 290205 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the output of my brainfuck thingy, trying to optimize the multiplication loops < 1436846971 6002 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436846987 921603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno but it seems a bit useless to have more than one i adjustment in each inner loop < 1436847013 24644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait that's the before optimization version < 1436847014 699996 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you guys talking about today < 1436847030 345766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now, izabera's brainfuck compiler < 1436847080 949439 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they all look correct to me :( < 1436847105 40022 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats going wrong < 1436847126 112741 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bf compiler is not working correctly, that's what's going wrong >.> < 1436847162 811957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first one does look correct... < 1436847173 353095 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well you can compile boyfriend because that's cheating that might be what's going wrong But brainfuck compilers not working are another issue < 1436847200 854764 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an esoteric language called boyfriend? < 1436847205 625385 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry I'm not of help on this topic < 1436847213 319518 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION would totally learn it < 1436847248 69873 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should ask a friend to come in and help < 1436847269 836668 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they are lazy to come in on another irc server < 1436847323 477899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :second looks correct... < 1436847460 146938 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're all correct < 1436847466 754554 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :there must be something else that's wrong < 1436847493 345314 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cry into the source files throw it into a volcano and pray < 1436847590 448006 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh i found ittt! < 1436847592 721573 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :291c262 < 1436847594 760413 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :< (( tape[i+1] = (tape[i+1] - tape[i] * 1) & 255, tape[i] = 0 )); < 1436847596 724960 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- < 1436847598 722542 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (( tape[i+1] = (tape[i+1] + tape[i] * -1) & 255 , tape[i] = 0 )); < 1436847600 234090 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:14: parse error on input ‘=’ < 1436847605 64840 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry lambdabot < 1436847679 978223 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1436847824 153431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: that's not _necessarily_ incorrect < 1436847848 595128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although maybe it's wrong syntax for what it tries to do < 1436847871 78116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was about to say, maybe some of those shell commands don't do what you expect them to < 1436847897 618651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't know shell well enough to say < 1436848041 756151 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Binary lambda calculus14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43479&oldid=35937 5* 03Phase 5* (-7) 10update link < 1436848236 126728 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf, the best friend language < 1436848441 860428 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope fixed that and it's still wrong < 1436848513 738839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looked at the bash operator table and i still see nothing < 1436848563 113143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure you're running the right test files :P < 1436848613 26189 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even... < 1436848639 975311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey it's happened to people before! < 1436848726 303506 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Useless14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43480&oldid=37483 5* 03Phase 5* (+91) 10add link to codegolf interpreters < 1436848959 440570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If subscript evaluates to a number less than zero, it is used as an offset from one greater than the array's maximum index (so a subcript of -1 refers to the last element of the array). " < 1436848988 5036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: how big is your tape array? < 1436849025 851281 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :up to 2*31-1 elements to the right < 1436849032 581880 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a day, what a day. < 1436849035 10957 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant 2**31-1 < 1436849047 987055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean, how big is it initialized to be < 1436849054 724550 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's empty < 1436849080 124931 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fine i'm sure that this part works >.> < 1436849172 132040 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not right a test to be really really sure < 1436849181 902369 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/right/write/ < 1436849217 707889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: what i'm wondering is if you're using actual negative indices at any tie < 1436849220 729944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*time < 1436849232 343138 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand that, and the answer is no < 1436849232 534326 :oren_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436849236 11818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1436849244 930825 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully < 1436849260 308513 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :jk i'm pretty sure i'm not using any negative index < 1436849284 436906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to check, you could assign 0 to a large index before you start, i think < 1436849295 172678 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well why not < 1436849339 284659 :oren_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reverse dns isn't picking up my domain name < 1436849342 409513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the only idea i've got given what i've seen so far, anyway < 1436849360 44146 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Did Tennessee the heaven hurt when you fell from the it < 1436849369 550141 :oren_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shoud have said oren@orenwatson.be < 1436849446 808306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you suddenly belgian < 1436849449 359480 :oren_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1436849459 168115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1436849460 951929 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but .be is very cheap < 1436849485 422414 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436849504 831068 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet not so cheap as to make me look shady < 1436849526 534487 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like orenwatson.cx or orenwatson.me or some crap\ < 1436849569 739438 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: tried that, same problem < 1436849575 703753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1436849616 625699 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks anyway :) < 1436849618 171243 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: for those who _want_ to look shady, i wonder how cheap syrian addresses are < 1436849658 109924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or north korean < 1436849669 686507 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :.sy is so shasy their registration rules are in a .doc file < 1436849681 440945 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gobin.info/domainname/sy.doc < 1436849692 997044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fan.sy < 1436849892 459844 :oren_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436849897 92277 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1436849920 687799 :oren_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, there is noticeale latency < 1436849933 677262 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :about 1/2 a second < 1436850026 583837 :oren_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1436850067 323473 :oren_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :oren_cloud < 1436850080 579517 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca NICK :oren_laptop < 1436850112 998557 :oren_laptop!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1436850128 438683 :oren_laptop!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca NICK :oren_broken_lapt < 1436850145 882034 :oren_broken_lapt!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh close enough < 1436850300 601593 :oren_broken_lapt!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I can try out recursive screen < 1436850362 408773 :oren_cloud!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1436850372 52316 :oren_cloud!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this looks really stupid < 1436850491 65124 :oren_broken_lapt!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1436850513 548918 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436850666 763227 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many orens are there < 1436850722 667541 :oren_cloud!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :only one. I was on the channel twice before. < 1436850740 419915 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one r, eh < 1436850826 824211 :oren_cloud!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/1436807488.png < 1436850865 651449 :oren_cloud!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :two screens look stuid as all hell < 1436850892 830610 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1436850899 659119 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :people still use 80x24 terminals < 1436850916 728143 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :whyyyyyy < 1436850925 550204 :oren_cloud!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1436850936 315835 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too smaaaaaaallll < 1436850952 917873 :oren_cloud!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can read a website while typing into the temrinal < 1436851034 77511 :oren_cloud!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so when I type it goes to the router, my laptop then back to the router, then through some oher stuff to a server in Virginia and then to wherever freenode is < 1436851119 942850 :mauris__!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1436851124 49082 :oren_cloud!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1436851139 658450 :mauris__!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome mauris__ < 1436851140 602768 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09mauris__: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06EFnet 13or 04DALnet.) < 1436851143 831758 :mauris__!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl NICK :mauris < 1436851306 932611 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436851307 180661 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436852808 930882 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436852909 83369 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you make messages encrypted better if you do not use consistent grammar and not necessarily even correct grammar? It might make it a bit difficult for some people to guess at a part of the plaintext; probably not much if the encryption algorithm is good, but maybe you will use a simple one I don't know < 1436852971 974939 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My MegaZeux compression program is now a bit better than DEFLATE < 1436853500 771794 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no, basically you should use good encryption that doesn't have plaintext attacks. < 1436853515 307083 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know < 1436853564 364339 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're writing something like English text, it already has so many regularities that a bit of bad grammar won't help much. < 1436853564 894459 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe you can't or maybe you are really paranoid (in which case a one time pad is best, but sometimes you cannot do that, and even then you may have to disguise the length of the message too) < 1436853613 260817 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compressing the data first can be one thing you can do, I believe < 1436853631 90248 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still it might have a known header < 1436853671 175135 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're paranoid enough to spend time with this, then there are likely already better ways to spend that time to improve security. < 1436853702 999634 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bad grammar would just lead to misunderstandings, which can defeat your whole purpose of communication. < 1436853725 404000 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't have to be bad enough that it can not be understandable < 1436853733 651751 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only just a little bit bad < 1436853790 106138 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can also rearrange a few sentences in a few unusual way even if not techinically wrong or difficult at all. < 1436853956 64036 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or as part of the encryption, you might mix up the order of the words even before compression (so that "Dear" does not necessarily come first), it is mixed up more afterward. < 1436853995 650997 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you plan to get back the original text? < 1436854018 901634 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would have to do in a reversible way. You need to add a second key to the encryption in order to do this. < 1436854035 449742 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you are communicate with someone you have a DVD you can use a one time pad; maybe you use a one time pad that is also encrypted with a password so that if someone steal the DVD then it is still difficult to decrypt it because they do not know the password. < 1436854036 433941 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1436854092 25162 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@2602:306:37f7:cac0:c949:dddc:6da5:f841 QUIT :Quit: Thisbe < 1436854141 898002 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :dvd's are so 2007 < 1436854165 857564 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or use a second pad stored on the hard disk, which must be combined with the first pad on the DVD, and which in addition requires a password. The encrypted message can include a initialization vector which must be combined with the password in order to decrypt the one time pad. < 1436854214 528865 :oren_cloud!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :microsd glued to the inside of the envelope of a letter < 1436854229 42100 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :glue is so 1907 < 1436854369 731360 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm bored... do you guys have any ideas? < 1436854522 644029 :oren_cloud!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :play age of empires II < 1436854543 367127 :oren_cloud!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :try to eat an entire ham < 1436854568 372318 :oren_cloud!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :write a dissasembler < 1436854622 761988 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1436854630 486157 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :for an esoteric programming language < 1436854722 667605 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, dont ask me to see the wiki page on ideas < 1436854732 989925 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wiki ideas < 1436854733 522818 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: wiki: not found < 1436854737 179706 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1436854842 513 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem? lel < 1436855047 262585 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know the idea < 1436857187 106384 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Pics or it didn't happen < 1436858263 689003 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arin.ga/2TN6QZ/raw what's the difference between the commented line and the rest? < 1436858280 80959 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bf code they come from is [->>>>+<<[-]<<] < 1436858381 850272 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand... < 1436858857 678628 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1436858901 379650 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1436859171 280230 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1436859319 832792 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah got it, in the first case tape[i+2] is zeroed out even if tape[i] is zero < 1436859596 191557 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :awwwwwww yeeeaah it works < 1436859601 756158 :aretecode!~aretecode@S01061859339e5f51.cc.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436859808 551466 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-snzycasjpslydajj JOIN :#esoteric < 1436860618 763960 :^sez!~^sez@60-240-104-147.static.tpgi.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436860703 355479 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1436861709 710226 :^sez!~^sez@60-240-104-147.static.tpgi.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436862625 222040 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436863267 687966 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1436863806 914818 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1436863998 505529 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does Facebook want to kill Flash? < 1436864026 203882 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't everybody? < 1436864041 708562 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I'm not opposed to the idea of killing flash as long as the streaming sites switch to using something else playable in browsers. < 1436864062 675817 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they switch to divx-player I'm gonna be mad. < 1436864068 627868 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :html5...? < 1436864080 963795 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1436864092 660134 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the HTML5 Version of YouTube inject ads into videos? < 1436864098 137875 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1436864106 8417 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do they do that? < 1436864110 73881 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :with overlays? < 1436864117 278433 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk probably < 1436864233 857411 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1436864248 11387 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1436864291 377851 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. It still gives you the javascript player < 1436864305 709776 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the would just present the video and the browser will have some sort of player built-in. < 1436864308 878283 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*they < 1436865105 131326 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, IOCCC announcement < 1436865266 444895 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436865648 353069 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1436865899 680380 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does Rust handle multiple files o_O < 1436866052 925908 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also use std::io; < 1436866060 834221 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :this allows you to address something with just io:: < 1436866071 221540 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that an implicit "use namespace" or something? < 1436866088 497662 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparentely sometimes you have to use mod and sometimes use < 1436866091 235845 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can't use both < 1436866091 830308 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1436866099 385813 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :mod test; will require you to write test::fun < 1436866146 463001 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can write use test::fun; and then you can just write fun < 1436866151 504937 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you'd have to do that for every function? < 1436866167 409120 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm. there's use test::*; apparentely < 1436866249 14342 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're implementing a java compiler, I wonder if you could get away with treating import commands as regular expressions < 1436866292 505871 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1436866293 653297 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends < 1436866301 161420 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not allowed to have more than one public class in the same file < 1436866329 422440 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how would you handle package scope then? < 1436866332 266822 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all these things < 1436866342 738744 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's public, private, protected and default < 1436866356 869945 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, import commands are either Foo.Bar or Foo.* < 1436866359 13626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: scoooope < 1436866387 526450 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :--which are valid regular expressions. < 1436866388 593745 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :default meaning "no access modifier" < 1436866394 747249 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :not "the default access modifier" < 1436866400 658680 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for interfaces the default access modifier is "public" < 1436866441 711778 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: wouldn't the dot need escaping? < 1436866448 202425 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :import Foo\.Bar\.*? < 1436866477 975653 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say the regular expression would live up to expectations. < 1436866511 44130 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, that's a different regular expression (which only matches strings like Foo.Bar....) < 1436866795 490535 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436867442 644726 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :import Foo\.Bar\..* then < 1436867856 138054 :^sez!~^sez@60-240-104-147.static.tpgi.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436868002 218824 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1436868113 142729 :^sez!~^sez@60-240-104-147.static.tpgi.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436869211 80059 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436869461 897373 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1436869478 22540 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436870063 104220 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roughly one hour to go for new what if < 1436870175 951977 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhelloman_. what if, as in xkcd's what if? < 1436870187 700552 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :naturally < 1436870233 97765 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooooh! < 1436870264 250609 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if... it's delayed? < 1436870283 708442 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna fly to america and slap Randall in the face < 1436870294 661409 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellint-e. don't jinx it. < 1436870299 846355 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION knocks his mapole < 1436870317 885787 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or challenge him to a bareknuckle fight. < 1436870319 849975 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: what? isn't "What If" on a permanent on hold, with a notice that always says it will be back next week? < 1436870333 405818 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-snzycasjpslydajj QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436870333 989198 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the date will change again within that hour < 1436870334 951546 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, 14th of July, 7:49 < 1436870340 377730 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: yes, that's what it says now < 1436870345 734840 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will update to a week later < 1436870377 678212 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it has always been 14th of July for the last weeks < 1436870387 185867 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1436870564 681448 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: hmm, maybe it updates every two or three weeks then? < 1436870595 822885 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh great! I didn't notice this book < 1436870598 195068 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to read it < 1436870644 749601 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaah the IOCCC people replies to one of my tweets! < 1436870714 868236 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle. you tweet? < 1436870732 560948 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, had an account for a while, never really used it much until literally two days ago < 1436870734 561251 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :@Ngevd < 1436870734 615530 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1436870744 225556 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apologies, lambdabot < 1436870984 670608 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack < 1436870984 762628 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1436871111 745629 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: oh! can you link? < 1436871132 392301 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/Ngevd/status/620899140835237888 < 1436871138 79737 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! < 1436871161 458713 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they already have a date for the next ioccc, when the programs from the previous one isn't even public yet < 1436871169 279123 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it will start... what when? < 1436871175 357964 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, they were made public today I think < 1436871189 680051 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think it will start... SEVEN DAYS BEFORE THEY ANNOUNCED IT < 1436871257 346493 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what how < 1436871260 516414 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can this even work? < 1436871270 324371 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's started, shouldn't that be annoucned on http://www.de.ioccc.org/index.html < 1436871278 750018 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is the mirror out of date? < 1436871298 193618 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh SHIT! < 1436871301 663336 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mirror is out of date < 1436871320 618268 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ioccc.org/index.html has announced the start of the contest < 1436871336 266100 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they dared to make it overlap with the icfp contest, when that was announced like months ago? < 1436871432 73836 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does this even work? < 1436871724 841483 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: thanks for the note < 1436871725 449936 :^sez!~^sez@60-240-104-147.static.tpgi.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436871730 977549 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and good luck < 1436871732 908559 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. new ioccc contest is running? < 1436871737 41251 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :You too, if you're entering, b_jonas < 1436871794 32525 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: yes, apparently backdated to before they even released the names of the winners of the previous one, and it shows up on only some of the official ioccc mirror sites < 1436871797 397118 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: crazy < 1436871871 660401 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The guidelines says "There are 29 reasons why these guidelines seem obfuscated." but now they're obfuscating even the fact that there's a new contest < 1436872098 778342 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: and the tweet https://twitter.com/ioccc/status/620875879711780864 is from today too < 1436872125 662151 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently they did it to get a funny timestamp or something < 1436872127 855717 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: ANNULAR CHICKEN < 1436872130 58589 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :still < 1436872899 876757 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :bastards. < 1436874976 906923 :x1365C!x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436875005 248376 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436875151 418869 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1436875174 604313 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436875588 436605 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1436875695 508068 :x1365C!x10A94@178.252.73.97 NICK :x10A94 < 1436875736 811866 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ioccc.org/png/ioccc.png < 1436875874 667264 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436876282 292263 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1436876357 365511 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436876736 957568 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436876816 636892 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1436877143 759482 :aretecode!~aretecode@S01061859339e5f51.cc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436878403 300383 :^sez!~^sez@60-240-104-147.static.tpgi.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436878631 885772 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436878879 812508 :^sez!~^sez@60-240-104-147.static.tpgi.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436879299 155752 :_256Q!~toastyten@host86-174-119-3.range86-174.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436879299 365729 :_256Q!~toastyten@host86-174-119-3.range86-174.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Changing host < 1436879299 420027 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436880132 165106 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436880340 185440 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436880500 998677 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1436885911 62638 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBL < 1436886055 194472 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1436886394 507825 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436886870 833912 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436887292 215929 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1436887469 827316 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436887919 162141 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436888398 861703 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436888711 897152 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436889520 427402 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1436889571 586073 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is depending on GTK or something too much for an IOCCC program? < 1436890487 744702 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1436890576 923041 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :think so < 1436890579 921308 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that even allowed? < 1436890584 326092 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :although actually now that I think about it < 1436890589 840738 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they've allowed X programs in the past, haven't they? < 1436890639 683185 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing in the rules against it < 1436890646 763498 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guidelines say: < 1436890647 817697 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric : X client entries should avoid using X related libraries and < 1436890647 923746 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric : software that is not in wide spread use. < 1436890657 542324 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric : We don't like entries that use proprietary toolkits such as the M*tif, < 1436890657 754507 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric : Xv*ew, or OpenL*ok toolkits, since not everyone has them. Use of an < 1436890657 808772 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric : open source toolkit that is widely and freely available instead. < 1436890686 372809 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436890692 518226 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :In any case I am having second thoughts about how I want to do rendering < 1436890893 283616 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl NICK :mauris < 1436890932 923551 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :use glxgears < 1436890978 422864 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a library??? < 1436891165 718101 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1436891210 246729 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean GLX? < 1436891216 423574 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1436891228 106157 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the one with the three colored gears < 1436891247 850473 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is possible to use a library?!?!? < 1436891321 796445 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're smart < 1436891327 723472 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can figure it out < 1436891892 409388 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might even just use Xlib < 1436892487 697786 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436892785 40561 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-094-078.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1436892914 898788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1436893839 418600 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : No, 14th of July, 7:49 <-- hm is that "coincidentally" the exact time for the new horizon flyby? < 1436893918 204951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at actual what-if < 1436893948 68372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1436894087 432370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: good luck! < 1436894205 642825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid google is doing that thing where it thinks i prefer norwegian wikipedia again < 1436894219 681536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and not even putting the english on the first page) < 1436894272 168988 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or second, for that matter. < 1436894367 570135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah wikipedia confirms 7:49 EDT, randall's on the east coast isn't he? < 1436894408 698376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"On July 14, 2015 11:49 UTC (07:49 EDT), the New Horizons spacecraft flew 12,600 km (7,800 mi) from the surface of Pluto." < 1436894493 645726 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436894494 65664 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436894554 421494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: conclusion, there was nothing random about the update time whatsoever hth < 1436894722 18878 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436894782 202122 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yep < 1436897148 415537 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Quit: Seriously. Niht. Now. < 1436898169 641696 :impomatic_!~digital_w@31.185.136.135 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436898401 659775 :pdxleif_!~pdxleif@ec2-50-112-124-255.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436898471 845890 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1436898472 210896 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1436898472 446026 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-50-112-124-255.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1436898473 344808 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me QUIT :*.net *.split < 1436898473 512061 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-amulpfoyupblnwzp QUIT :*.net *.split < 1436898473 835431 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mxxtqyftpkuxuxks QUIT :*.net *.split < 1436898474 639210 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk QUIT :*.net *.split < 1436898475 135606 :pdxleif_!~pdxleif@ec2-50-112-124-255.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com NICK :pdxleif < 1436901512 578457 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBL < 1436901839 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1436910060 637012 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan !najrølleh < 1436910060 868522 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1436910097 563788 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan (please note that I would've liked the slash upon the o to be reversed, but it seems to be too much of a unicodehassle hth) < 1436910097 723491 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1436910215 263631 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1436910215 901769 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 142100Z 29004KT 15SM BKN055 OVC090 25/19 A2954 RMK SC7AC1 SLP004 DENSITY ALT 1700FT < 1436910218 601048 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436910239 863012 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :strangely, dew point remained at 19 today instead of dutifully following the temperature. < 1436910266 34151 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436910558 531706 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Phase14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43481&oldid=43475 5* 03Phase 5* (+12) 10 < 1436910590 485710 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar lowi < 1436910590 821924 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 142120Z AUTO VRB01KT 9999 NCD 19/15 Q1020 < 1436910605 629899 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :NCD... hmm < 1436910660 284523 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, "no cloud detected" < 1436910958 656758 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43482 5* 03Phase 5* (+310) 10basic summary of the language < 1436911056 532286 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43483&oldid=43482 5* 03Phase 5* (+1311) 10More features of the language < 1436911080 617203 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1436911209 750123 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43484&oldid=43483 5* 03Phase 5* (+935) 10more features < 1436911271 66975 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43485&oldid=43484 5* 03Phase 5* (+5) 10fix lists < 1436912393 325166 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fizziello! would you please reinstantiate fungot twh? < 1436912423 359535 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand. < 1436912434 133632 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"would you please reinstantiate fungot that would help?"? < 1436912476 185090 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436912501 642219 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1436912508 774761 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shellochaf. there's a missing comma hth < 1436912524 108121 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you asking if it would help? < 1436912543 150735 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the punctuation mark at the end is also wrong. < 1436912577 788846 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43486&oldid=43485 5* 03Phase 5* (+1143) 10Explain file inputting and outputting & character pushing < 1436912739 388056 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Jackass14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43487&oldid=43477 5* 03Phase 5* (+9) 10 < 1436913336 50457 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1436913345 213456 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this may be just what I wanted < 1436913349 936253 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not, depending on the details < 1436913352 429752 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to read < 1436913413 434062 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1436913585 640990 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436913687 320688 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, it's not < 1436913916 38064 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43488&oldid=43486 5* 03Phase 5* (+0) 10fix typo < 1436914250 297259 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1436914543 101491 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43489&oldid=43488 5* 03Phase 5* (-9) 10show character pushing < 1436914622 429534 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43490&oldid=43489 5* 03Phase 5* (+3) 10change link < 1436914660 954671 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43491&oldid=43490 5* 03Phase 5* (+3) 10H would be a separate object on the stack < 1436914940 816052 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436915143 182997 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1436915597 389708 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43492&oldid=43491 5* 03Phase 5* (+1365) 10lots of more information < 1436916887 19111 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436916920 336838 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1436917087 41018 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist PART #esoteric :"WeeChat 1.2" < 1436917443 646980 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43493&oldid=43492 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+1) 10/* CodeBlocks */ < 1436917594 56731 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1436917825 418152 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43494&oldid=43493 5* 03Phase 5* (+13) 10/* String Manipulation */ Rename section < 1436918466 245723 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43495&oldid=43494 5* 03Phase 5* (+304) 10/* CodeBlocks */ better explanation < 1436919163 324295 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: JETPACK CHICKEN < 1436920033 310485 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43496&oldid=43495 5* 03Phase 5* (+494) 10/* String Manipulation */ Casting to a double < 1436920075 25027 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43497&oldid=43496 5* 03Phase 5* (+2) 10Move Characters under Strings < 1436920320 247372 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436921035 888144 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43498&oldid=43497 5* 03Phase 5* (+846) 10/* Boolean Logic */ Add section < 1436921171 492904 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43499&oldid=43498 5* 03Phase 5* (+6) 10/* Boolean Logic */ Change pre to code < 1436921202 991197 :oren_cloud!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good evenig < 1436921419 145949 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1436921427 574648 :oren_cloud!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold on, testing < 1436921431 9554 :oren_cloud!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1436921447 114316 :oren_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436921465 433722 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverse dns is a scow < 1436921500 641713 :oren_!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :orenwatson_be < 1436921624 896205 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Client Quit < 1436921631 845908 :orenwatson_be!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :oren < 1436921833 334432 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably migrate PSOX to GitHub < 1436921891 142733 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is psox? < 1436922007 633394 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thing I made in 2007/2008 to enable stdio-only esolangs to do other things with an appropriate server. It was optimized for BF despite my intentions for it to be more general < 1436922040 75139 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/PSOX < 1436922187 685067 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is ehird here < 1436922251 896681 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is github.com/ehird his most recent github, or is there newer? < 1436922277 756328 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll assume so < 1436922321 77265 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tada https://github.com/Sgeo/psox < 1436922674 314207 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436922760 28630 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:34a0:43fd:8493:a7c1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436922797 346109 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1436922840 347251 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43500&oldid=43499 5* 03Phase 5* (+375) 10/* Boolean Logic */ Strings do contains for > and <; moved around sections < 1436922904 770098 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool. Externalizing this sort of stuff helps keep the core language small < 1436922904 876556 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43501&oldid=43500 5* 03Phase 5* (-132) 10/* Boolean Logic */ Remove old examples < 1436922972 974359 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Brainfuck bias shows in two ways that I can think of right now (and that have been mentioned to me so long ago): The extensive use of NUL, and NUL as a success value. < 1436922991 154552 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, actually, not sure how the latter indicates a BF bias < 1436923133 955145 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it indicates an sh bias < 1436923156 52427 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I redid the way input worked because of Windows, but I still haven't tested PSOX on Windows < 1436923210 298314 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43502&oldid=43501 5* 03Phase 5* (+18) 10/* String Manipulation */ Reword and show example < 1436923213 57461 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O the spec has an inconsistency < 1436923221 546303 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"0x00 0x02 0x03 "http://example.com/longname" 0x0A < 1436923221 624365 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The string is a null-terminated string. Note" < 1436923234 506008 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Remember, somestring is not a NUL-terminated string, it just doens't contain a 0x0A" < 1436923252 15910 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the latter quote is in the spec of that function) < 1436923261 136586 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a url can't contain either anyway < 1436923298 501480 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NUL-terminated vs not nul-terminated makes a difference < 1436923315 131021 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the nul is actually output oh < 1436923334 913373 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1436923345 290634 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi variable < 1436923402 960318 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The List of Builtin Domains is outdated... or more accurately, the other builtin domains aren't actually built in < 1436923414 225951 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone explain to me why uuidd exists? < 1436923507 768001 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it apparently provides uniqueness even when lots of threads are grabbing uuids at once < 1436923586 441539 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it has a pseudo-random generator with a large state and generates a buffer which it replenishes? < 1436923701 892509 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, if all uuids come from one place that makes it somewhat easier to guarantee uniqueness certainly < 1436923787 191771 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in that case you could also just emit sequential numbers < 1436923807 549377 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a security problem with that < 1436924021 313280 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, relying on people not being able to guess a uuid is kind of shit < 1436924131 514872 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436924155 486315 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436924189 310384 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: hi < 1436924227 367860 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: uuid is not meant for secure problems < 1436924241 279319 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuid exists since it, in theory, should be *globally* unique < 1436924260 176321 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, you producing a uuid and me producing a uuid very rarely colide < 1436924315 368094 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: ^ < 1436924359 110119 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but I assume he was asking why we need a daemon to generate them? < 1436924366 979977 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1436924397 967443 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, there is a daemon that generates them? < 1436924406 669058 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1436924412 325591 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuidd was not a typo < 1436924416 980865 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1436924497 4480 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: never heard of it, but does it produce V1 guids ? < 1436924539 231499 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, its very likely what oren said: to avoid issues with multiple threads creating guids at the same time < 1436924554 229359 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :today's computers are fast enough to produce colliding v1 guids :'( < 1436924578 680626 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it generates uuidds < 1436924603 785358 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm? < 1436924618 604817 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuid = guid < 1436925127 166279 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1436925130 354636 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-paecohuyjictgvaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :twitters UIDs are a timestamp, worker ID and a sequential ID smashed into uint64 https://blog.twitter.com/2010/announcing-snowflake < 1436925289 610021 :^sez!~^sez@60-240-104-147.static.tpgi.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1436925345 676888 :^sez!~^sez@60-240-104-147.static.tpgi.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436926060 825384 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436926129 792499 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:34a0:43fd:8493:a7c1 PART :#esoteric < 1436926898 713923 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436927177 602217 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436927940 58177 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436927958 837149 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436928147 585500 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43503&oldid=43502 5* 03Phase 5* (+255) 10/* CodeBlocks */ CodeBlocks can now be on the stack and are assigned to characters just like variables (because they are variables) < 1436928934 978197 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/6502machinecode.asc < 1436928981 730231 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :6502's instruction set looks much less confusing if the opcodes are written and organized in octal rather than hex < 1436928993 568593 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that also true of the 8086? < 1436929156 714872 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, dunno. the ADD instructions on 86 are all 00x in octal it's true < 1436929176 206502 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sort of < 1436929639 552000 :^sez!~^sez@60-240-104-147.static.tpgi.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1436930117 239135 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436930393 870842 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :.asc ftw < 1436930416 348730 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :beacuse .txt is sooo windowzy < 1436930497 866426 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-kgkpkfwvynqtufny QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436930604 224332 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-tetubcuxuragehsx JOIN :#esoteric < 1436930988 457244 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't UUID mean any sort of universally unique identifier (generally one with lots of entropy), while GUID refers specifically to Microsoft's realization of the concept? < 1436931560 832540 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1436931589 171540 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1436932501 682663 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436933147 5432 :^sez!~^sez@60-240-104-147.static.tpgi.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436933839 440503 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-tetubcuxuragehsx QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1436933960 781042 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-vazysguhffyveeyd JOIN :#esoteric < 1436934652 837273 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436934785 377251 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436935358 853609 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436936919 925925 :^sez!~^sez@60-240-104-147.static.tpgi.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1436937707 860835 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436937707 952004 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436937898 675193 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43504&oldid=43503 5* 03Phase 5* (+530) 10/* CodeBlocks */ Show CodeBlock adding < 1436938052 321175 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43505&oldid=43504 5* 03Phase 5* (+3) 10/* Variables */ Setting a variable won't pop it off the stack < 1436938120 21518 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436938357 151785 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/Sgeo/psox/commit/64efa9fef9d6ec3b08026f350558766b53c9aa3a < 1436938368 361385 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was I on drugs, or did I steal this from someone who was on drugs? < 1436938513 216064 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :eval('"' + raw_input() + '"') < 1436938520 556906 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :10/10 would read again < 1436938791 825124 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-vazysguhffyveeyd QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1436938894 791243 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436938902 565917 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-llazkocyffgpnnbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436938920 619786 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436938920 794658 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1436938920 848958 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1436939134 296383 :aretecode!~aretecode@S01061859339e5f51.cc.shawcable.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436939329 907603 :aretecode!~aretecode@S01061859339e5f51.cc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436939556 400470 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436939724 390423 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have an example of a compiler for a turing complete language that's written in a non turing complete language? < 1436939787 893153 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The is perfectly capable of compiling into < 1436939806 56551 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pathological cases are fun and useful! < 1436939975 697585 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera, I don't think you need more than a push-down automata to compile, eg, brainfuck to C < 1436940000 532030 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1436940137 813647 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :like sed (the command) which is turing complete if you have labels and jumps, but it's not if you only use s///g, and that's enough to compile brainfuck < 1436940690 976234 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can, in fact, pick any language for which a compiler always terminates, and then take the language whose only valid programs implement that compiler < 1436940956 750795 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436941069 682819 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-llazkocyffgpnnbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1436941159 461294 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-lojkvycghmxlmbtf JOIN :#esoteric < 1436941388 633002 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1436942573 836174 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnordy morning < 1436942844 721136 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :400bit/s isn't very much o_O < 1436942853 872558 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but given it's over mio. of kms < 1436943383 342397 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43506&oldid=43505 5* 03Phase 5* (+369) 10add infobox < 1436943427 433072 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or trivially < 1436943429 411070 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck is TC < 1436943431 974525 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ook is TC < 1436943448 391283 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can compile Brainfuck to Ook with just regular expressions < 1436943493 568104 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, if you consider Brainfuck and Ook to be different languages. < 1436943507 329036 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat can compile brainfuck to ASCII Art- < 1436943572 126988 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I know why I wrote it like that: I wanted to be able to use Python escapes < 1436943580 607682 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet you could teach ravens to compile Brainfuck to Ook < 1436943582 118357 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing nul bytes and PSOX commands etc < 1436943625 435771 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or some binary versions of it < 1436943668 899632 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be funny to teach birds to operate a deadfish machine < 1436943695 712786 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has 4 switches < 1436943701 24951 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe you use 4 kinds of food < 1436943714 915941 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the bird will press the corresponding button on the deadfish machine :D < 1436943745 703277 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Four kinds of dead fish < 1436943768 627111 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then we'll teach them to program in Brainfuck! < 1436943775 494668 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then how to kill humans < 1436943784 304136 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then they might take over the world < 1436943796 202501 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least we get another good movie about birds killing humans < 1436943801 651206 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that one hitchock movie < 1436943829 596161 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hitchook < 1436943843 898537 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Hitchcock < 1436943874 398421 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an interesting name < 1436943925 293688 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, my port registration request has been forwarded to the port experts for review < 1436943980 466554 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you registering a port for < 1436944026 815406 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a server that serves as an execution service for esoteric programming languages < 1436944044 306850 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The client connects, specifies the language and options, sends the program < 1436944060 720429 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then the client will send stdin to the server and the server will stream stdout to the client < 1436944069 835465 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which allows execution of interactive programs) < 1436944083 26500 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the client streams stdin to the server) < 1436944120 751500 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it weren't for the interactive and streaming part I would have picked HTTP < 1436944171 943242 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although you might be able to abuse HTTP for interactive streaming somehow < 1436944194 781711 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not something like telnet? < 1436944215 787881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436944228 816639 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you mean give people shell access? < 1436944233 878461 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :california/California is pronounced "Caliphate-ornery-I-A" < 1436944243 981937 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_, no, having a service accessible by telnet < 1436944268 282671 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Telnet doesn't necessitate shell access < 1436944268 494541 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd still need to define a protocol over telnet < 1436944273 195106 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, sure < 1436944286 197423 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but telnet could be used for the underlying communication I guess < 1436944333 933481 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that telnet doesn't support TLS/SSL < 1436944355 327600 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my spec wrongly implies that VARARG(STRINGNL) is meaningful < 1436944406 677557 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/ansi.ans <-- missing anything? < 1436944409 399983 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :STRINGNL is really kind of weird < 1436944422 22882 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: This also means that the ESOSC has to write the spec for the protocol btw ;) < 1436944448 404821 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a string that's terminated by a newline that is part of the command being sent < 1436944511 604584 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_, oh dear :P < 1436944599 224329 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESOSC has a duty in this world! < 1436944625 262705 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :being crazy is one of them. < 1436945038 825939 :SirCmpwn!~sircmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1436945122 709066 :SirCmpwn!~sircmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436945194 57911 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the data shall be transmitted in the subset of Ascii consisting of IDLXCVDN, space and newline, where each octet shall be encoded in Roman Numerals as per [1, Livy] and separated with a space or newline as necessary to ensure that no more than 80 characters appear on a line, as per [2] < 1436945270 97618 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1436945309 610666 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1436945369 598558 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence, the string "Hi" shall be encoded as ``LXXII CV N'' < 1436945432 170769 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::B < 1436945851 542711 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: no no no. you have to define what type of newline, give the syntax in BNF notation, and discuss the known security implications < 1436946017 664749 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. for security, see the solutions used by [3, Julius] and [4, Augustus]. You meet in secret to exchange a key, being a number between 1 and 25... < 1436946035 563531 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://asciinema.org/a/dc7a8jytvjhia5xhcyfin8k1b spam spam spam < 1436946583 229998 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1436946693 618735 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: please also link the later RFC on the solutions for using slaves when you cannot meet in secret < 1436947427 617003 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :slaves will be killed on arrival < 1436947438 189313 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a security measurement < 1436947503 546050 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like uhm < 1436947539 576372 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :engrave the secret key on some piece of metal, fill a closable container with a liquid that can be absorbed by the skin and is very deadly < 1436947548 368541 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then put the key in that liquid < 1436947559 105411 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :on arrival the slave has to put his hand into the liquid to get the key < 1436947562 448984 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ultimately dies later on < 1436947596 743885 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/romd.c < 1436947603 866451 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the liquid is missing you have been compromised < 1436947664 274532 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1436947706 392057 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1436947772 490330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1436947963 385629 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1436948217 687706 :^sez!~^sez@60-240-104-147.static.tpgi.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436948395 246531 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1436948395 338503 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 10h 38m 55s ago: !najrølleh < 1436948395 392857 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 10h 38m 18s ago: (please note that I would've liked the slash upon the o to be reversed, but it seems to be too much of a unicodehassle hth) < 1436948491 530318 :^sez!~^sez@60-240-104-147.static.tpgi.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1436948973 577079 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436949399 252144 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1436949449 488349 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436949611 708975 :^sez!~^sez@60-240-104-147.static.tpgi.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436949639 904980 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :o⃥r is it? < 1436949705 188766 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but saying o⃥rjan is v. disrespectful < 1436949713 165535 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to make up for it by calling him o⃫rjan < 1436949830 604055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see any of those characters right anyway < 1436949917 840293 :^sez!~^sez@60-240-104-147.static.tpgi.com.au QUIT :Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de < 1436950332 489600 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1436950981 540401 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07J--14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43507 5* 03Phase 5* (+835) 10Rough explanation of J-- < 1436951035 250155 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Phase14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43508&oldid=43481 5* 03Phase 5* (+35) 10link to J-- < 1436951257 154022 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Quit: goodnight < 1436951511 757835 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1436951651 499700 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1436951790 681483 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07J--14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43509&oldid=43507 5* 03Phase 5* (+1) 10fix quote < 1436952665 688889 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1436953401 470969 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1436955325 466018 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07J--14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43510&oldid=43509 5* 03Phase 5* (+530) 10built in functions < 1436955658 411404 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07J--14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43511&oldid=43510 5* 03Phase 5* (+62) 10/* Examples */ Cat program < 1436955763 908255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Always with the procrastination < 1436955991 855345 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436956557 78664 :aretecode!~aretecode@S01061859339e5f51.cc.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436956784 724646 :aretecode!~aretecode@S01061859339e5f51.cc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436957009 850354 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07J--14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43512&oldid=43511 5* 03Phase 5* (+17) 10main is now a replacement < 1436957351 229390 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07J--14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43513&oldid=43512 5* 03Phase 5* (+169) 10/* Examples */ More examples < 1436957929 534013 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the feeling when a method called String toJSON produces XML . < 1436958067 70031 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stays far away from mroman_ < 1436958072 481899 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it contagious? < 1436958255 7642 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably < 1436958370 864269 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1436958899 689083 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: mhound, tromple, spronghack. < 1436958900 462514 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i last saw arcus on may 02 at fnord am utc, saying: garou, ping?" on fnord" in that dimension. a dimension not only of languages like b, pl/ sql doesn't count. < 1436959039 809453 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn fnord am/Fnord AM is the repeated hour that happens when DST resolves. It is customary to celebrate it with a Garou Ping if one is awake during that time. < 1436959042 848212 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «fnord am» < 1436959118 409863 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? JSON < 1436959119 128474 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JSON? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1436959205 971546 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? JSON is JavaSyntax Or Nothing. < 1436959206 713350 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JSON is JavaSyntax Or Nothing.? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1436959212 430220 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn JSON is JavaSyntax Or Nothing. < 1436959214 515714 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'json': JSON is JavaSyntax Or Nothing. < 1436959354 409745 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? XML < 1436959355 91516 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XML? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1436959513 297912 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436959523 525530 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only usage for JSON I found so far is < 1436959555 823232 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :{"xml":"18"} < 1436959560 661319 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1436959632 529652 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1436959635 932885 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1436959641 581022 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! < 1436959657 141901 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, boily < 1436959673 490197 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TANELLE! STAY AWAY! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! < 1436959686 200840 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Client Quit < 1436959690 652130 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: COORDINATED CHICKEN < 1436959824 247140 :digitalc1ld!~redacted@192.73.232.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436959833 246712 :trnv2!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436959839 227562 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the actual story is < 1436959846 785311 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that there was a method toJSON which used JAXB < 1436959860 963309 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :under the assumption that JAXB will use a JSON provider to do the serialisation (per default) < 1436959868 128155 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which it does not. So it returned actual XML. < 1436959897 634296 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why I'm manually using jackson now to do that. < 1436960014 644546 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand I'm rewriting a network library that used peer-to-peer SSL communications to using a REST approach :D < 1436960051 466484 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which isn't really optimal since it exchanges thousands of messages < 1436960074 783943 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1436960075 580411 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1436960085 764316 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but! That's what the client wants. < 1436960086 693120 :trnv2!jhj@trnsz.com NICK :trn < 1436960097 675171 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's gotta be RESTful. No matter what. < 1436960105 435474 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps they just tried to tell you they're tired, and you took it wrong? < 1436960185 985594 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a zero knowledge like protocol library that bounces thousands of messages among the participants that take part in the computation < 1436960219 349557 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also secret sharing stuff) < 1436960286 504534 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, now sending a message requires a new http connection for each message < 1436960337 472102 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and HTTP overhead. < 1436960340 387896 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help I am watching a graduation ceremony on YouTube < 1436960350 620156 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Watch cat videos instead < 1436960360 302227 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_, someone I know is graduating < 1436960427 795776 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it life? < 1436960436 702629 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it live? < 1436960453 996091 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why aren't you attending in person? < 1436960475 671022 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I just finished my second year of 4? < 1436960484 836947 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm in Hexham < 1436960519 712993 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he's far away I presume < 1436960530 490231 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :In York < 1436960554 834865 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and I never said "he", it's good practise not to make assumptions like that) < 1436960588 529772 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm really only watching because I am bored < 1436960606 368460 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure < 1436960610 832547 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can't say "it" either < 1436960619 912958 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :"they" is acceptable nowadays < 1436960625 801857 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like plural < 1436960650 884738 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :In modern usage it can refer to the singular also < 1436960660 672030 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I could've said "your friend" < 1436960664 199080 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436960665 426698 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that would also work < 1436960670 663833 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1436960678 858301 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's not known whether that person is Taneb's friend. < 1436960685 364338 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "they" accepted by gender neutral persons as well? < 1436960693 866259 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or non-binary gender persons? < 1436960695 863891 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_, generally, yes, but it depends on the person < 1436960699 587343 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Client Quit < 1436960728 589469 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there aren't enough pronouns for all the gender identities nowadays. < 1436960746 320530 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I'd opt for "friend" and "friendess" < 1436960748 387488 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1436960756 210133 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like steward stewardess < 1436960766 518295 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1436960770 640743 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you mean friendperson < 1436960776 550974 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that only works for classic binary genders < 1436960778 273059 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1436960868 981984 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and they is far away" sounds horrible. < 1436960896 137657 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the verb changes to match the pronoun < 1436960910 516873 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's used as a singular? < 1436960918 244157 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1436960920 230043 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1436960922 954930 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"they are far away"? < 1436960925 606104 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1436960927 828776 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it's singular? < 1436960931 677 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1436960933 787539 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1436960944 609050 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :English is a language that totally makes sense < 1436960951 769538 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the devil! < 1436960965 25199 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, English makes sorta sense < 1436960967 999064 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for the spelling < 1436960983 486703 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :receive, believe < 1436961005 47959 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436961007 751447 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google devil's dictionary < 1436961008 888202 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.thedevilsdictionary.com/ < 1436961008 942574 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary - for Tablet & Screen < 1436961470 584936 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1436961856 239967 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-13-79.w90-44.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1436962039 558012 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you cooperate with the devil? < 1436962039 790362 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: i think that he occasionally confers with people and machines." < 1436962065 974184 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :He confers with machines? < 1436962068 389335 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting. < 1436962073 600164 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_, not often < 1436962097 250750 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although that was a really nice answer) < 1436962105 589423 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436962462 592066 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436962966 45447 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder JOIN :#esoteric < 1436962966 170764 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436963138 526721 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1436963163 481598 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436963528 694637 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1436963748 167752 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: but fungot is neither a machine nor is it a person! < 1436963748 379915 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: but if you really want ton know?" might be a typo < 1436964191 359135 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1436964192 341660 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :metaplace/Metaplace ♫ is where I want to be, ♫ I never m*%¤)&"#NO CARRIER < 1436964195 978329 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1436964198 89729 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1224) listen. listen. jesus has saved me from talking about undefined behaviour in C with you any more, and He could save you too. < 1436964495 116851 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a machine, not a person, but might be a typo. < 1436964817 541562 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1436964888 856563 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot was originally designed to be a flexible network observation and reconnaissance daemon, but there was a typo. < 1436964888 961707 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: fnord " right" way here, when you're around. < 1436965159 861881 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you really a typo? < 1436965160 286717 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: very well, i was having a lot of list support can do almost everythig you'd want for " static" beta redexes and reduce them, like " 36 f.supp.2d 191" or " can't produce easily" < 1436965174 816049 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436967313 110751 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436967395 786856 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1436967654 780135 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436967709 15143 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1436967752 971645 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436968364 995847 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1436968434 910581 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436968566 345120 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1436968823 422100 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBL < 1436969230 612601 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436969518 156206 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436969575 596129 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1436969793 726025 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436969839 518126 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436970102 537196 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1436970169 716386 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436970196 306561 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to improve my work ethic... < 1436970379 612613 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me too < 1436970384 373244 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine is horrid < 1436970904 350409 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91-rdmsoft [XULRunner 32.0.3/20140923175406] < 1436971805 932320 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1436971839 674427 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1436971975 879969 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436972457 58271 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprit wisdom/metaplace < 1436972457 689145 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: culprit: not found < 1436972463 91522 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/metaplace < 1436972466 225506 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1436973999 870946 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1436973999 925227 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Client Quit < 1436974591 227261 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, unloading ehci is a bad idea when the keyboard is connected through USB. < 1436974769 59682 :S1!~S1FeHa@p4FF9391F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1436975341 398788 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1436977025 291283 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :*.net *.split < 1436977025 545319 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1436977025 663982 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me QUIT :*.net *.split < 1436977025 817256 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk QUIT :*.net *.split < 1436977032 661818 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1436977052 710722 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436977077 512573 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me JOIN :#esoteric < 1436977171 648288 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1436978220 721025 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-13-79.w90-44.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1436978684 772559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1436979344 669041 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Jackass14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43514&oldid=43487 5* 03JayCampbell 5* (+231) 10 < 1436979444 867909 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-094-078.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436979465 30750 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Jackass14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43515 5* 03JayCampbell 5* (+125) 10Created page with "You've been drive-by interpreted! ~~~~" < 1436979472 52649 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-094-078.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1436979686 582002 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-222-167.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1436979711 532877 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-222-167.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1436979794 218023 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Jackass14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43516&oldid=43515 5* 03JayCampbell 5* (+461) 10 < 1436980467 560092 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436980515 818588 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? html < 1436980516 577197 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :html? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1436980939 945259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mroman_ that sounds like plural <-- you know "you" is etymologically plural, right? so english is just becoming more consistent. now we just need to make it acceptable for others than Elizabeth to use "we"... < 1436980940 50996 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1436982161 865819 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: assimilate https://www.reddit.com/r/datasets/comments/3bxlg7/i_have_every_publicly_available_reddit_comment/ < 1436982161 971619 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: that's what i figured, i dont' know if you find out? :) < 1436982698 106625 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436982926 409997 :S1!~S1FeHa@p4FF9391F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: S1 < 1436983697 500741 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: do you _really_ want to risk creating an AI with the behavior and opinions of the average reddit commenter? < 1436983715 684718 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436983754 397826 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good point. Have an upvote. < 1436984696 483358 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1436985045 920858 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1436987037 347468 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 NICK :tswett1 < 1436988230 267114 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43517&oldid=43506 5* 03Phase 5* (+641) 10dictionaries < 1436989189 736749 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436989282 312454 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43518&oldid=43517 5* 03Phase 5* (+72) 10basic lists < 1436989812 320793 :tswett1!~tswett@192.241.237.138 NICK :tswett < 1436990544 487364 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :thou singular, you plural < 1436990913 320076 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43519&oldid=43518 5* 03Phase 5* (+245) 10/* Arrays */ Rename to Arrays and more operators < 1436991367 91006 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43520&oldid=43519 5* 03Phase 5* (+145) 10/* String Manipulation */ String evaluating < 1436991458 428791 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43521&oldid=43520 5* 03Phase 5* (+1) 10/* - */ There should be a '-' < 1436991736 411903 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436991918 43064 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1436992042 712148 :_256Q!~toastyten@host86-174-119-3.range86-174.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1436992042 766496 :_256Q!~toastyten@host86-174-119-3.range86-174.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Changing host < 1436992042 766571 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436992045 369297 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436992203 308483 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Client Quit < 1436992355 260276 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1436992390 425528 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436992445 585645 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1436992526 302701 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436992942 320562 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBL < 1436993623 380071 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1436995493 329459 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1436996341 291887 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1436996510 237716 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1436996522 52103 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1436996967 571245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1436997827 256010 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1436998307 739953 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1436999397 440455 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437000040 452779 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Jackass14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43522&oldid=43516 5* 03JayCampbell 5* (-81) 10 < 1437000124 658406 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Jackass14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43523&oldid=43514 5* 03JayCampbell 5* (+22) 10/* Interpreter */ < 1437000437 627009 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hack VM14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43524&oldid=17789 5* 03Phase 5* (+2784) 10Fill in more information < 1437001910 208338 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437001924 126228 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good eveing < 1437007184 214362 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1437008243 995816 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437008952 581412 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437009200 253429 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437009562 176922 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1437009576 35274 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1437010129 218650 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437010231 157486 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437010302 108568 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43525&oldid=43425 5* 03146.171.254.97 5* (+10) 10 < 1437010786 495290 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437010870 945327 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437011998 379683 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1437012029 52078 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1437012641 441977 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1437013053 211222 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437013270 205561 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :challenge: write a program that prints a regex that matches the program's source code, but not the program's code with any two characters swapped < 1437013337 746602 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not a quine >.> < 1437013984 538890 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: you could cheat by making it an almost-quine which replaced one character with . in the output < 1437014015 246628 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I thought you were going to say "write a program that works with any two characters swapped" < 1437014036 433080 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's trivial in any language which has single-character comments, as you can just alternate comment characters and code < 1437014198 503944 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1437014592 665751 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: doesn't that assume the characters to be swapped are adjacent? < 1437014614 71907 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: oh, yes < 1437014620 479002 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I assumed reading izabera's sentence < 1437014624 543608 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't actually say that < 1437014663 699088 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/any/ two characters would be much harder, because you can swap the opening and closing delimiter of something that has opening and closing delimiters (or if they're multiple characters, corrupt one but not the other) < 1437014665 487205 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it be easier if they can only be adjacent? < 1437014675 394041 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437014680 167124 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1437014691 725075 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :way easier < 1437014702 288164 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1437014703 97200 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then < 1437014705 324446 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can write this program in Unary < 1437014710 213154 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1437014711 533924 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I'd /want/ to, but I could < 1437014715 653121 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Unary < 1437014720 359060 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean < 1437014723 134088 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why unary < 1437014727 592690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, unless you allow swapping two identical characters < 1437014734 976125 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case all the characters in the program have to be distinct < 1437014738 501960 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1437014749 249936 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437014752 957489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a pretty big description as-is < 1437014753 594427 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, printing the regex thingy isn't so easy i guess < 1437014776 39871 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perrier: like the mineral water company? < 1437014778 398257 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's any language with a one-character command that isn't . and prints . < 1437014784 735041 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would work < 1437014838 961062 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, i like it < 1437014905 300458 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesnt match the frobbed strings because there are no such strings... the best kind of truth < 1437015015 74791 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, I've been trying to design a language specifically so that you could make arbitrary minor changes to it without significantly changing the meaning of the prorgam < 1437015024 371020 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it ended up very biological, this probably isn't a coincidence < 1437015031 592621 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't worked out the details though < 1437015095 681630 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote an HackEgo quine < 1437015098 736259 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` a='``' b=\' c=\\ d=\; e='echo -n $a a=$b$a$b b=$c$b c=$c$c d=$b$d e=$b$e$b$d;echo -n $e';echo -n $a a=$b$a$b b=$c$b c=$c$c d=$b$d e=$b$e$b$d;echo -n $e < 1437015099 301262 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`` a='``' b=\' c=\\ d='; e='echo -n $a a=$b$a$b b=$c$b c=$c$c d=$b$d e=$b$e$b$d;echo -n $e';echo -n $a a=$b$a$b b=$c$b c=$c$c d=$b$d e=$b$e$b$d;echo -n $e < 1437015120 446237 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit it's wrong < 1437015137 197408 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` a='``' b=\' c=\\ d=\; e='echo -n $a a=$b$a$b b=$c$b c=$c$c d=$c$d e=$b$e$b$d;echo -n $e';echo -n $a a=$b$a$b b=$c$b c=$c$c d=$c$d e=$b$e$b$d;echo -n $e < 1437015137 737189 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`` a='``' b=\' c=\\ d=\; e='echo -n $a a=$b$a$b b=$c$b c=$c$c d=$c$d e=$b$e$b$d;echo -n $e';echo -n $a a=$b$a$b b=$c$b c=$c$c d=$c$d e=$b$e$b$d;echo -n $e < 1437015151 758644 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1437015152 173962 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  | < 1437015152 228375 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  |\ < 1437015168 143108 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43526&oldid=43521 5* 03Phase 5* (+1011) 10/* Control Flow */ < 1437015860 675095 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437015934 292594 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437016631 384829 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Jolf14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43527 5* 03JayCampbell 5* (+200) 10Created page with "A planned [[pyth]] variant in pure javascript for code golfing. --~~~ [[Category:Languages]] [[Category:2015]] [[Category:Unimplemented]]" < 1437016732 539922 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ℒight14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43528 5* 03Phase 5* (+22951) 10Create the best C < 1437016823 942881 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Light14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43529 5* 03Phase 5* (+21) 10Redirect 'Light' to 'ℒight' < 1437016982 852879 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I saw the +22951 < 1437016990 90327 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thought it might be a long, detailed and complex language < 1437016991 540430 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently not < 1437017014 607543 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone tell Phase that at least in my browser, it's easy to scroll to the end… < 1437017082 516791 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Jackass14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43530&oldid=43522 5* 03Phase 5* (+253) 10responsessesesesesseseesesss < 1437017388 477844 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1437017539 428495 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Timeline of esoteric programming languages14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43531&oldid=42904 5* 03Phase 5* (+107) 10/* The heat death of the universe */ ℒight may be implemented by then. < 1437017785 639481 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vwsldnrhspnmhckd QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1437017814 147773 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've invented a really stupid way to implement some subset of regexes: use 65280 bytes. < 1437017836 247790 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-envsoznsyqcejnyg JOIN :#esoteric < 1437017921 633520 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, actually you need two distinct end states, so 65024 < 1437017968 411503 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Timeline of esoteric programming languages14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43532&oldid=43531 5* 03Ais523 5* (-107) 10Undo revision 43531 by [[Special:Contributions/Phase|Phase]] ([[User talk:Phase|talk]]) specifically on the "have not yet garnered much attention" clause, but the mention here also isn't particularly funny (especially as the language is easy to imp < 1437018086 774790 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vihfgadjpmswmsny QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437018103 467285 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like one infinitely long output, not infinite outputs < 1437018138 616155 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cwtpzogeuetwtbqo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437018138 719313 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ttjltwqpdyamxszk QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437018167 287726 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-envsoznsyqcejnyg QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437018197 346281 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zntnlxszficzwige QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437018201 649123 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1437018227 450020 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sad thing is it doesn't even become near Shameful < 1437018287 279240 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, no, if Snack is shameful, this is, I think < 1437018318 733270 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ujdrrjhfgugrjejg JOIN :#esoteric < 1437018415 576400 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Snack should quality. It's actually coherent, with a readable and executable impl < 1437018445 53643 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm garbage if you don't grave < 1437018740 463705 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bqujsghyhsakzjtj JOIN :#esoteric < 1437018975 891977 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fagvdnvuaokepcup JOIN :#esoteric < 1437019470 721120 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vykiokbcvizrnzeu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437019600 838454 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1437019636 162702 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1437021007 575261 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gjvqbdcofjikvidq JOIN :#esoteric < 1437021028 970301 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43533&oldid=43526 5* 03Phase 5* (+256) 10/* Examples */ Add more examples < 1437021309 753976 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437021366 897449 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fifth14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43534&oldid=43533 5* 03Phase 5* (+24) 10/* Repeat a string */ Fix example < 1437024037 227256 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437024822 459206 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437025420 846822 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Phase 5* 10moved [[02Fifth10]] to [[O]]: Rename the language < 1437025439 524986 :relrod_!~relrod@104.131.193.156 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437025439 730002 :relrod_!~relrod@104.131.193.156 QUIT :Changing host < 1437025439 784302 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod JOIN :#esoteric < 1437025527 61694 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07O14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43537&oldid=43535 5* 03Phase 5* (-8) 10Rename language to O < 1437025546 647351 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07O14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43538&oldid=43537 5* 03Phase 5* (+1) 10typo < 1437025563 278155 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod NICK :relrod < 1437027156 694205 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Passalambida14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43539 5* 03179.179.223.17 5* (+222) 10Languages < 1437027893 490405 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07List of ideas14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43540&oldid=43346 5* 0373.221.67.162 5* (+257) 10/* Implementation */ < 1437029064 568811 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just looked at the Esme article again. < 1437029068 377101 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to poison my eyes. < 1437029304 591575 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1437030742 378813 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07O14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43541&oldid=43538 5* 03Phase 5* (-4) 10/* External Resources */ Right link to the interpreter < 1437030996 178793 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1437031158 434105 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437031314 930436 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437031965 13848 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80e-20.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437032834 520330 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07O14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43542&oldid=43541 5* 03Phase 5* (+158) 10/* String Manipulation */ String replacement < 1437032864 811397 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43543&oldid=43525 5* 03Phase 5* (+8) 10/* O */ Add O Language < 1437033161 316165 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437033385 27513 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-13-79.w90-44.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1437033393 119134 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arin.ga/lsqf7x/raw this compiles just fine on tcc < 1437033768 465573 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07K14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43544 5* 03Phase 5* (+1914) 10K summary < 1437034171 293683 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Related: http://www.ioccc.org/1998/schweikh1.c ("lines" 49-50) < 1437034309 227705 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's different... < 1437034511 618980 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1437034683 36183 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437034717 838174 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437035327 651807 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437035393 63413 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1437035412 886998 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be honest, that O programming language looks about as esoteric as J is < 1437035441 862781 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a bit more, because it seems to use more primitive data types < 1437035476 874582 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437035556 285433 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg... imagine like an "In Time" based programming language. < 1437035613 559531 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could call it "90 minutes" < 1437035640 586413 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and every variable counts down to 0, and if the variable value is at 0, then the variable times out and dies a bloody death < 1437035901 72682 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1437037055 192006 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437037331 473289 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1437037517 434710 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1437038608 485528 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437038874 214554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1437039081 166667 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1437039773 415367 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437039773 506728 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1437039773 506801 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437040217 265259 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't j esoteric? < 1437040227 297841 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, it's just odd < 1437040240 659026 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my personal opinion, do not take as canon) < 1437040690 690720 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80e-20.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437040756 149367 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically just another language in the APL family < 1437040762 919803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the APL family is generally downright weird < 1437040773 254815 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably too large and generally used by now to be an esolang, though (this is a low bar) < 1437040815 212710 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :J is merely obscure. Esoteric is, like, compiling brainfuck to bourne again shell script < 1437040894 759049 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that also pretty easy? < 1437040902 90557 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :slightly harder if you want infinite memory < 1437041028 704921 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone written an Underload to brainfuck compiler? < 1437041058 680171 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an Underload-in-brainfuck interpreter < 1437041064 449496 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could make that into a compiler via bundling < 1437041080 540407 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if you can do much better than bundling because brainfuck isn't exactly very good at dynamically allocated memory < 1437041094 883047 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning that there are going to be considerable interp-like structures in the output no matter what < 1437041190 607372 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about the other way round (sans input, of course) < 1437041215 660504 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has underload been compiled to any language that was created before it < 1437041242 14636 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, there's a reduction to a counter machine < 1437041265 521278 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, I believe it compiles to a bunch of similarish languages (eg FALSE) pretty easily < 1437041362 567048 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: brainfuck-in-Underload is probably easier, I don't know if it's been done < 1437041372 228671 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see how to do it, at least < 1437041380 909410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the standard Underload programming tricks work, no reason to do anything fancy < 1437041966 895339 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437041970 577037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: last i checked (after the :()^ discovery) FALSE has enough features for an easy TC subset of Underload, but not for the a and * commands. < 1437042010 962009 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. you have lambdas but you cannot generate new ones that are not in the program < 1437042038 421191 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, awww < 1437042039 174261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, "lambdas" < 1437042075 271267 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Zzo38#dc.2FFALSE.2FUnderload.2FTeXnicard < 1437042126 962006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh zzo38 claims it has * < 1437042128 904486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not a < 1437042222 389454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i made brainfuck in Fueue, apart from I/O underload cannot possibly be harder < 1437042239 913259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO < 1437042254 892159 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: brainfuck-in-Underload is pretty easy in the EsoInterpreters stakes < 1437042259 195553 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this may be why nobody has bothered < 1437042278 379937 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll do a brainfuck-in-Underlambda at some point, that'll trivially compile into Underload minus S plus I/O extensions < 1437042406 344170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm emmental is younger than underload < 1437042427 196645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there's obviously underload in funge-98, right fungot < 1437042427 299543 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the most common one? < 1437042440 246138 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: indeed it may well be the most commonly used < 1437042440 450753 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: or any words synonymous thereto? cool! what was the name of < 1437042462 591643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, that's also an interpreter, not a compiler < 1437042518 190973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Underload newer or older than Thutu? < 1437042533 195680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :older < 1437042546 515551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload 2006, thutu (and emmental) 2007 < 1437042706 827981 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, Underload is much older than that if you count Overload < 1437042719 389346 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dates back to my early days as an undergraduate < 1437042728 284144 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would have been 2006, possibly even 2005 < 1437042788 434303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boilyo < 1437042882 57415 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, did I start making esolangs at a younger age than you? < 1437042891 6281 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably, I'd have been 18 < 1437042901 59294 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you count things like the noughts and crosses impl in MS Paint < 1437042904 244961 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which came rather earlier < 1437042914 183837 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2011 - 1994 < 1437042915 725225 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 17 < 1437042932 934598 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd have been 16 < 1437042939 83675 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my birthday's in November) < 1437042958 388030 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, if you don't count the spec I wrote for an Ook derivative, which I never published < 1437042987 593449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1437043021 88949 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437043030 408772 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should publish it so we can make a derivative of it hth < 1437043106 879157 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I'm not sure if it still exists < 1437043126 345180 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc it had two tapes and arithmetic < 1437043127 606663 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :curses < 1437043136 802147 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the keyword "Eek" < 1437043145 754806 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds bananas < 1437043145 857879 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the same punctuation as Ook < 1437043315 603857 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know a suitable speaker for a talk aimed at both maths students and computer science students? < 1437043368 597377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the subject of the talk determined yet? < 1437043372 900866 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not, proof theory would seem like a good one < 1437043425 614281 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, not determined, talking to the people in the maths society about it at 6 < 1437043439 134145 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking cryptography or algorithms < 1437043440 912582 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Umm, maybe a Yamaha? < 1437043458 741437 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, :P < 1437043468 249814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: i'm not alone! < 1437043522 38952 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :(despite being a joint-honours student who actually prefers the maths side of my degree, I have more friends in computer science and am involved in the computer science student society a lot more than the maths one) < 1437043608 24104 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the FFT convolution theorem. < 1437043649 220443 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, I don't know much about that < 1437043664 718498 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the issue is more we need a presenter more than a topic < 1437043676 735848 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Preferably one based in the UK < 1437043764 747436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you'd want a presenter competent to speak on whatever topic you chose < 1437043806 578602 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd also like a not-completely-unheard-of presenter, so they'd draw an audience maybe < 1437043815 32714 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although that's not a huge issue < 1437044633 722073 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vykiokbcvizrnzeu QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1437045069 468972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: lunch < 1437045404 667366 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SCRAMBLED CHICKEN < 1437045720 617292 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437046077 995659 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1437046981 770911 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437047008 7611 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1437047140 97556 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437047647 992280 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever seen c code being slower than bash code? < 1437047673 406 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arin.ga/ZtNMvH/raw <- minibf.c, a non optimizing compiler < 1437047692 928476 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arin.ga/pixxUg/raw <- benchmark vs my bash thingy < 1437047733 626208 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-13-79.w90-44.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1437047749 158113 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not very cheating too much <.< < 1437047754 993856 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/very// < 1437047781 231742 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that minibf.c runs hanoi.b in 15s, my bash version runs it in 45s < 1437047798 717355 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's not too bad < 1437047904 130507 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1437048110 790180 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Jolf14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43545&oldid=43527 5* 03JayCampbell 5* (-200) 10deleting, found js port of golfscript < 1437048625 726129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437049085 264788 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437049150 777024 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see ais523, sgeo, oerjan .. where's ehird? < 1437049164 310445 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jayCampbell: doesn't idle here any more < 1437049169 956887 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, hi < 1437049202 298972 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey! i see you're still going strong < 1437049343 579610 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :jayCampbell, an old face returning, I presume? < 1437049361 557669 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :every decade or so < 1437049380 144536 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :played nomic with some of these cats too < 1437049429 922282 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1437049466 482172 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :2005 was slightly before my time, so nice to meet you < 1437049483 738714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that was slightly between my times < 1437049486 891913 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437049511 164375 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :decade may have been exaggeration < 1437049521 63123 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1437049531 492608 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I joined 2010 or 2011 < 1437049538 798084 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiki says 2008 < 1437049544 209282 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i wasn't far off < 1437049547 429468 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I"M OLD < 1437049560 910091 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop that < 1437049580 453482 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: shall i hit him with my cane? < 1437049586 578346 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being old is bad for your health < 1437049617 849414 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :jayCampbell, your name sounds familiar, is there anywhere notable I'd have seen it? < 1437049668 188305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a john campbell on the iwc forum iirc < 1437049691 679765 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember the name from nomic, but am not sure if a) the nomic came first; b) the esolanging came first; or c) it's a misremembered memory and it's just esolanging < 1437049691 954795 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm clever but not especially notable < 1437049701 410758 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is also the name of a notable guy < 1437049711 500883 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did ehird win B with "commands are executed in the order they are received" < 1437049730 945702 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jayCampbell: you are aware of what happened to B, right? < 1437049746 386868 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i probably lurked esolang first then nomic'd then registered at esolang < 1437049753 702707 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :B died several times, what's the latest? < 1437049783 544760 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i think about it, i'm into esolangs again this year because of nomic even though i haven't played in years < 1437049827 882562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jayCampbell: we discovered that the emergency rule stopped the timekeeping for the emergency rule, thus leading to an emergency that couldn't be resolved or ended < 1437049847 269889 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with AST under my belt i'm making another run at natural english < 1437049851 661018 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the end people created a new nomic from scratch, with the same name, on the same mailing list, but that was years later < 1437049852 174162 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :B is in permanent emergency? nice < 1437049869 929680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the previous apparent emergency was arguably an even more fitting end < 1437049877 526594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely they should have called the new one C nomic < 1437049879 151336 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b.nomic.net is blank < 1437049881 246990 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although one that's less fatal < 1437049882 244634 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :jayCampbell, what sort of thing does a jayCampbell get up to? < 1437049891 240495 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 foot 1 < 1437049895 31467 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were no refresh proposals, except one by Wooble to end the game < 1437049906 232183 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooble was also the emergency coordinator, and instead of enacting eir own proposal < 1437049909 608484 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e forfeited < 1437049917 901652 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see < 1437049945 93821 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wooble finally did fall down < 1437049949 607280 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the legal implications of that are kind-of mindboggling, nobody could figure out what was supposed to happen (and then it turned out it didn't) < 1437050038 19610 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lessee, day job is (they bought my start-up) remote worker management, next start-up is on alexa voice services for assisted living, current humanitarian thing is a new rights-for-youth org, current hobby code project is english parsing < 1437050064 720168 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds fun < 1437050100 271840 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is forfeiting even a legal game move during emergency < 1437050132 986581 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb, i actually needed to do that mental inventory < 1437050146 772607 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :jayCampbell, you're welcome??? < 1437050204 875978 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : is forfeiting even a legal game move during emergency ← many people consider it an important safeguard in nomic that you can forfeit no matter what, and that it trumps everything < 1437050231 878785 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agora doesn't quite share that view; it aims for similar protections, but implements them differently < 1437050250 596306 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think B was strongly in the "a forfeit is always possible" camp < 1437050285 246375 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we can convince wooble to pass the proposal < 1437050354 767408 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jayCampbell: as I said, it never existed < 1437050364 941532 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to a much earlier emergency locking B in stasis forever < 1437050371 887956 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hee < 1437050373 375911 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of what happened at B actually never happened, you got used to it after a while < 1437050400 644492 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there are several parallel universes going on < 1437050403 956493 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that seems comparable to Feather < 1437050408 811382 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some shared realities, some not < 1437050429 683636 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(similar, but less major, potential crisis at Agora atm; a bunch of proposals were submitted without adoption indices, which might have made them incapable of making any ruleset or gamestate changes) < 1437050442 548905 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and we only noticed quite recently) < 1437050543 938702 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :parliamentary gridlock in the real world can be solved with pitchforks < 1437050579 738156 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't B's tagline "this is not B nomic" for a long time? < 1437050627 707345 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite day was when i was trying to get the graphic interface going for chess and some old-timer checkmated me while i wasn't paying attention < 1437050659 354155 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i set off my all pieces to move random directions and "turn the board" for next turn in a loop < 1437050669 580053 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember that < 1437050671 652076 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there were only punishment protections for such behavior < 1437050699 544923 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i automated that on a different nomic later, it was fun < 1437050714 410763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I dislike behaviour where you're intentionally winning via violating the rules < 1437050728 645087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if a punishment for breaking them is specified, I still consider the intentional break to be cheating < 1437050758 348982 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's written in the form "you can do this, but you must suffer the penalty if you do", rather than "you can't do this, but if you try anyway, here's the penalty to get the game back on track" it's much more acceptable < 1437050761 484731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nomics tend to use the latter < 1437050799 154454 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nomic was the source of my most heated disputes of the era < 1437050872 171459 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm parsing english for a deterministic nomic < 1437050924 903250 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to enjoy Nomic but I find it very hard to pay attention to < 1437050925 949303 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :english codenomic is an interesting idea < 1437050929 304779 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it'll work, but it's interesting < 1437050937 760516 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be a lifesuck < 1437050976 996968 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais, i'm in touch with a guy who built a self-compiling english .. the compiler, gui, editor is all in plain english < 1437051010 311390 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to me that was proof it's expressive enough < 1437051012 267713 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds appropriate for esolangs as it is < 1437051024 226678 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is not really being expressive, but rather tolerance of things outside the syntax < 1437051037 513656 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't parse novels but it's easy to program in .. no harder than following a magazine's style guide < 1437051041 254637 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/English < 1437051041 782688 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :COBOL is pretty expressive and pretty English-looking, but you couldn't feed it Agora's ruleset < 1437051057 874334 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :jayCampbell, have you seen Inform 7? It's along those lines < 1437051076 87117 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1437051076 396183 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the language is meant to look like natural English) < 1437051097 674446 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you could port a large chunk of the rules < 1437051126 239446 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not going to read *all* english, only those that follow the grammar < 1437051190 869104 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to add a vote to a poll using a player name: increment the poll; add the player name to the poll's voted list. < 1437051269 472208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure we discussed a "plain english" language here at some point, and were not impressed. < 1437051328 315886 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty tortured if interpreted as English < 1437051329 197200 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the we that includes me is < 1437051370 966053 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had doubts too till i saw a compiler written in english < 1437051441 334132 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically just an alternate syntax for something that could be more simply expressed a different way, I fear < 1437051483 151075 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may be the only person on earth that thinks this can work but that's cool < 1437051533 4095 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais, people are afraid of programming symbols .. this is also a way to trick them into programming and debugging without those more concise syntaxes < 1437051555 941704 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody would play golfscriptnomic < 1437051565 635991 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(even ecmanomic died) < 1437051603 49370 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why the heck is /r/nomic private, who has that < 1437051618 95887 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it part of the recent reddit blowout? < 1437051667 579704 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's been that way for at least a couple years < 1437051773 192599 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1437051853 853578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :/r/nommit isn't private though < 1437051859 555998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks pretty dead, though < 1437052175 220040 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the world really needs is a nomic written in http://snap.berkeley.edu/ < 1437052186 467613 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then peace would be upon us < 1437052342 546247 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jeez, I remember when I cared about that programming language < 1437052357 817985 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was why I learnt lambda calculus, in the beginning < 1437053147 591719 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I learned it to understand Unlambda < 1437053157 464911 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTERCAL and Malbolge might have got me interested in esolanging < 1437053168 398604 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Unlambda was by far the most influential esolang on me, I think < 1437053323 563945 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me it was bf derivatives then things like piet keep redefining the whole concept < 1437053350 554343 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Piet was the first programming language full stop that I learnt < 1437053379 597668 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha! < 1437053536 115680 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't imagine what people's first language experience will be like in 20 years < 1437053549 126521 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python 2 < 1437053590 558574 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :In 20 years, Taneb, not now. < 1437053596 216363 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, yes < 1437053605 531781 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, I maintain Python 2 < 1437053670 378341 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't wait to see the mainframe designers who have to optimise for legacy python business logic in 20 years < 1437053687 772921 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Was Befunge your first esolang experience by default? < 1437053688 1757 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fnord sucks. what can i do it without symbols at all before it clears? another hard drive. < 1437053716 465578 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I'd assume the first language fungot learnt would either be brainfuck or Underload < 1437053716 678288 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i am on fnord side of things, but i think i'd prefer the latter ordering, but i < 1437053731 566601 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, because fnord sucks? < 1437053732 97127 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that was an excessive paste :-p well, i already did some coding today. :( right now i am off topic, but is this limitation of heap-size true? first takes the list as a separate entity < 1437053737 760599 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1437053737 814976 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1437053768 231555 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I guess that's a valid argument too. In that case, it would have been brainfuck. < 1437053874 387503 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could try to write nomic rules in deontic logic; it would effectively be an esolang < 1437053947 591604 :_256Q!~toastyten@host86-174-119-3.range86-174.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437053947 771402 :_256Q!~toastyten@host86-174-119-3.range86-174.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Changing host < 1437053947 825836 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437054399 353569 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437054526 117699 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1437055068 764048 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: meeting < 1437057613 82761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1437057819 708144 :llue!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437057819 974728 :llue!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1437057820 28870 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437057988 959887 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437058958 707287 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437059762 102647 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437060626 179267 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-13-79.w90-44.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1437060655 818927 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437062255 124474 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437062803 34872 :Warrigal!~tswett@192.241.237.138 NICK :tswett < 1437064294 110614 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff and things < 1437064774 849012 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes < 1437065178 534032 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437065596 362433 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1437065614 504660 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437065614 558954 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1437065614 559001 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437065655 537730 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hrvkbhfugadwckqh JOIN :#esoteric < 1437066333 972953 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437066344 235349 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello jay < 1437066530 698096 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you come here very rarely < 1437066973 670611 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know a fun person in the field of quantum information theory < 1437066996 538972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437067027 644033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1437067476 545653 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know QM and all, if that can help? < 1437067483 737274 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know much about quantum computing < 1437067608 405960 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80e-20.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1437067649 707697 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80e-20.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437067671 663720 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah__, are you a high profile speaker who would attract guests < 1437067672 518237 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1437067685 555827 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :And can you travel to York, England on a student society budget? < 1437067892 80971 :a21!~CADD@2605:e000:36c1:5500:d63d:7eff:fe5f:1ec2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437068058 517374 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cryptography is also an option < 1437068316 330208 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a fun person in the field of quantum computing may have walked into a bar < 1437068695 431086 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well did he or didnt she? < 1437068704 309316 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries desperately to collapse the joke's wavefunction into a punchline < 1437069028 214317 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb : That's gonna be a no on both < 1437070159 870925 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-55-161.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1437070210 778685 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-55-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My computer is currently broken (I am using another computer right now) < 1437070334 792259 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: many < 1437070342 942369 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1437071003 655771 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-55-161.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1437071006 160811 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437071177 986746 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437073316 137384 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07O14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43546&oldid=43542 5* 03Phase 5* (+4) 10/* Repeat a string */ Fix example < 1437073666 412133 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437074087 424908 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLH < 1437074087 738119 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No result. < 1437074100 512191 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL < 1437074100 887178 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 161850Z 10010KT CAVOK 20/13 Q1012 NOSIG < 1437074102 876449 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I forgot.) < 1437074147 49742 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have EGLC for London City, seemed logical London Heathrow would've been that. < 1437074331 81500 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-55-161.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1437074479 352296 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437074640 611599 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437074843 993124 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1437074925 581661 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-55-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have backups of any of my files? You should use them for now until I get my computer fixed; I believe only the CPU is broken and the hard drives are OK < 1437075049 226035 :x1365C!x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437075053 955202 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-55-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot access my SSH account either < 1437075155 33241 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-55-161.eastlink.ca QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437075255 829371 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437075446 964754 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin_TV < 1437075475 122090 :x1365C!x10A94@178.252.73.97 NICK :x10A94 < 1437075475 214413 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07O14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43547&oldid=43546 5* 03Phase 5* (+9) 10Add header < 1437075477 427893 :shikhin_TV!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1437075797 590845 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437075824 533683 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437075904 574800 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07O14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43548&oldid=43547 5* 03Phase 5* (+28) 10/* ` */ It should push 3, since it starts at zero. < 1437076245 774183 :a21!~CADD@2605:e000:36c1:5500:d63d:7eff:fe5f:1ec2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437076878 370202 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437077050 171139 :a21!~CADD@2605:e000:36c1:5500:d63d:7eff:fe5f:1ec2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437078456 91905 :a21!~CADD@2605:e000:36c1:5500:d63d:7eff:fe5f:1ec2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1437079203 313536 :a21!~CADD@2605:e000:36c1:5500:d63d:7eff:fe5f:1ec2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437079309 477618 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1437079645 516742 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1437079811 369585 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1437079830 784172 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437079984 159477 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437080002 587337 :a21!~CADD@2605:e000:36c1:5500:d63d:7eff:fe5f:1ec2 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1 < 1437080652 118892 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1437081563 711414 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437081826 5908 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437082005 677960 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437082085 459533 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1437082608 642777 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437082634 810461 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1437082703 273549 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437082840 138978 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437083383 225957 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07O14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43549&oldid=43548 5* 03Phase 5* (+36) 10/* + */ 5 -> 5.0 < 1437083405 32244 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07O14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43550&oldid=43549 5* 03Phase 5* (+0) 10/* + */ I swear I can't logic < 1437083714 16914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1437083923 620745 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1437084116 758724 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437084328 763718 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-50-112-124-255.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437085416 566289 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1437085437 779997 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist PART :#esoteric < 1437088297 875582 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :got another brainfuck interpreter for the list < 1437088305 9514 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/esolangs/brainfuck-in-snap-blocks.png < 1437088310 212215 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :me so funny < 1437088354 971718 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-96-201.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437088369 429694 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1437089604 185741 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1437089729 322161 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :jayCampbell, I wrote one in Scratch a while back < 1437089741 842074 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it's got a bug in it somewhere and I can't be bothered to fix it < 1437090521 205904 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many brainfuck interpreters are there written in brainfuck? < 1437090884 704015 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer NICK :O_Corno < 1437091610 700208 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hand-coded or do generators count < 1437091915 336412 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb mine works https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/esolangs/brainfuck-in-snap-screenshot.png < 1437091976 59327 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: self interpreters list at https://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck < 1437091987 98467 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437092031 595772 :O_Corno!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437092172 385518 :staffehn!~quassel@staffehn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437092486 285758 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1437093206 349957 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-37-112.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1437093248 524572 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-37-112.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1437093248 578933 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437093254 88835 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1437093831 871708 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1437095012 780263 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437095381 651948 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:34a0:43fd:8493:a7c1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437096663 665326 :aretecode!~aretecode@S01061859339e5f51.cc.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1437097291 981611 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :god damn it google stop autocorrecting my employer's name to an unrelated comapny name < 1437097345 157832 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:34a0:43fd:8493:a7c1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your employer's name wouldn't happen to be "comapny", would it? < 1437097346 196157 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:34a0:43fd:8493:a7c1 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1437097383 911957 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. soundhound -> soundcloud < 1437097444 660212 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, how is that even a valid typo? < 1437097471 127280 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cl are nowhere near h on eny keyboeard I've seen < 1437097489 999061 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:34a0:43fd:8493:a7c1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1437097529 737185 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they're doing naive edit distance, but I would expect better from Google < 1437097995 869865 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren, it could be they're sharing code with the voice recognition < 1437098075 173537 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm that makes a lot of sense taneb < 1437098648 458342 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1437099061 304691 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1437099540 970491 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437099856 539596 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437100212 85735 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I occasionally make macrotypos like that. Like I try to type "will" but accidentally type "which" instead. < 1437100244 673292 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All my fingers hit the keys correctly; it's just that those keys belonged to the wrong word. < 1437100269 234417 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Accidentally typing "cloud" instead of "hound" sounds pretty plausible, at least for me. < 1437100366 943274 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm interesting. < 1437100413 780143 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well google seems to have learned what I'm likely to search < 1437100429 366581 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good for them < 1437102421 558678 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-55-161.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1437102494 89168 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-55-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to install Command-line Ubuntu (it is one distribution that I could fit onto a CD; the DVD drive on the computer I need to install into is broken, and it can't boot from USB) < 1437102503 710464 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-55-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it says it failed to create a filesystem. < 1437102567 196241 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-55-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to fix it please? < 1437102691 729708 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1437103301 41920 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-55-161.eastlink.ca PART :#esoteric < 1437103829 9001 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07O14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43551&oldid=43550 5* 03Phase 5* (+86) 10/* Examples */ Factorial < 1437104455 225992 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07O14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43552&oldid=43551 5* 03Phase 5* (+260) 10/* Factorial */ Give explanation < 1437104666 930058 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437104986 640973 :password2!~password@197.76.131.92 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437106655 256080 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437106747 584718 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1437108248 454098 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437109694 404393 :password2!~password@197.76.131.92 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437109734 434098 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437110354 673145 :|f`-`|f_!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437110380 49161 :atriq!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1437110422 173191 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1437110423 202796 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1437110424 171910 :|f`-`|f_!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net NICK :|f`-`|f < 1437112056 708233 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07O14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43553&oldid=43552 5* 03Phase 5* (-6) 10/* Repeat a string */ Better example < 1437112297 909804 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437115086 700914 :digitalc1ld!~redacted@192.73.232.206 NICK :digitalcold < 1437115189 740538 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:34a0:43fd:8493:a7c1 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1437117346 985365 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1437118025 323822 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg... < 1437118289 725470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1437118478 152672 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437118575 266873 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437118648 845655 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm bored... < 1437118901 622212 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a common problem. < 1437118983 711364 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437119090 836886 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-13-79.w90-44.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1437119121 918476 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do we solve it? < 1437119192 387166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear there are a number of approaches, but they're all boring hth < 1437119214 520705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for those that are just plain scary awful. < 1437119228 677987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like bear wrestling. < 1437119229 502538 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hang on < 1437119232 630393 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me do something < 1437119261 585706 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :function whatIsBoredness() { return typeOf(boredness) } < 1437119267 53544 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatIsBoredness() < 1437119291 952803 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... boredness is a float... from 0 to 1 < 1437119297 24858 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the moment it's 1 < 1437119301 96795 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :boredness = 0; < 1437119303 912662 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1437120986 321623 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord < 1437121056 966468 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bored is the default state of the human mind. < 1437121816 121352 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1437121839 114247 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1437122164 80624 :atriq!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org NICK :Taneb < 1437122682 551193 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437123208 834125 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437123445 587139 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437123727 511907 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1437124511 11348 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1437124934 14914 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1437125641 555209 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :nerp < 1437126177 179193 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> signum (0.5 :+ 0.5) < 1437126178 868153 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.7071067811865475 :+ 0.7071067811865475 < 1437126869 377147 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> signum (1 :+ 1) :: Complex CReal < 1437126870 788115 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.7071067811865475244008443621048490392848 :+ 0.7071067811865475244008443621... < 1437126969 736562 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437127025 836146 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1437127131 679109 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437127336 552773 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1437127958 258079 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437127958 350481 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1437127958 617103 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437128460 161006 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80e-20.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437128512 826729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1437128753 48271 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437128816 927361 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80e-20.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437130396 584231 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1437130396 725428 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1437130419 658971 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack < 1437130419 713138 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1437130426 606551 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily now you do < 1437130426 807237 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1437130536 319096 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabellora! int-ello! < 1437130548 520235 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey there < 1437130689 203326 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm so excited to be here today!!!!1 Oh wait, that's just the caffeine... < 1437130749 843564 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how esoteric proving things in Isabelle is... < 1437130774 925715 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1437130811 510202 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a proof assistant, https://isabelle.in.tum.de/ < 1437131382 428367 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not very. It even has a GUI. < 1437131404 252408 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOL Light and its raw ocaml shell, on the other hand... < 1437131450 860100 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a colleague who works with that... but from afar at least it does look very tedious. < 1437131692 596551 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're really masochistic, you could use the opentheory stack language: http://opentheory.gilith.com/opentheory/packages/axiom-infinity-1.12/axiom-infinity.art < 1437132009 744915 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, I didn't know signum did that for complex numbers. < 1437132133 14076 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the required property is that signum x * abs x == x. < 1437132145 499760 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it sure makes sense. < 1437132356 662149 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of required properties, Isabelle/HOL functions have to be defined for all inputs. So division is defined such that x div 0 = 0. But people wanted to keep the theorem x mod y = x - x div y * y, so it's also defined that x mod 0 = x. < 1437132442 424465 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: TROPICAL CHICKEN < 1437132862 346370 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437137710 4791 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1437137885 964300 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437138044 723100 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437138334 176787 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Client Quit < 1437138458 777992 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437138555 483725 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1437138571 669048 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437139131 978327 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437139190 669747 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437139258 895820 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1437139306 53765 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb my loops are half broken too so egg on my face < 1437139405 31288 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03AlbertBrown 5* 10New user account < 1437139431 206178 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :jayCampbell, :) < 1437139452 468351 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure it's just a missing pointer bump at the end of the loops < 1437139482 552416 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437139580 390979 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello runs but fib fails < 1437139586 645416 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/1234507/ is mine < 1437139596 444147 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is fib? < 1437139645 413696 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fibonacci sequence, short test program < 1437139659 629899 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw your emulator a couple weeks ago actually < 1437139675 275829 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny < 1437139678 306442 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice to meet you < 1437139763 734416 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1437139779 687435 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should do more esolang interpreters in Scratch or similar < 1437139806 862972 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :snap has this 'broadcast' command < 1437139821 558267 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scratch has that as well I think < 1437139827 934510 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: That's a lotta nesting. I think it'd be nice to have the "switch" at one level of indentation, even if it were slightly less efficient. < 1437139840 556941 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory you could broadcast "hey, handle the current op" and little third party snippets could decide if they want to act on the op < 1437139851 642680 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can add brainfuck variants just by adding the extra ops < 1437139871 731026 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I wrote it 5 years ago when I was a less good programmer < 1437139896 827863 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow my kit didn't include switch so i'm a flat set of if's < 1437139938 498798 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it was a metaphorical switch. < 1437139982 991691 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :snap has Build Your Own Blocks but i've stayed with vanilla blocks < 1437140006 163774 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie here's a snapshot of mine from last night, i forget if you were around https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/esolangs/brainfuck-in-snap-blocks.png < 1437140055 146385 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of "less good programming", is anybody working with AST parsing, manipulation or code generation? < 1437140064 160234 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does a 'warp' block doo? < 1437140068 846495 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doo dee doo. < 1437140080 16570 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :warp just makes the screen update less < 1437140083 818130 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1437140106 876023 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay. < 1437140127 177864 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Random thought: is there a visual programming tool that can import programs from their screenshots < 1437140144 199601 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :jayCampbell, it makes screen update asynchronous, I think < 1437140196 655624 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jafet with imperfect OCR it'd be nearly useless, like a cat making random changes to bytes of your code < 1437140204 728592 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with perfect OCR it'd be easy < 1437140221 184482 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since the text is drawn by computer, that shouldn't be a problem. < 1437140229 329912 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's a screenshot of code and not a camera pic, yeah, should be easy < 1437140231 242184 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"easy" < 1437140248 992590 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case i have an xml to back up the screenshot < 1437140271 927131 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :snap has a Publish button but i can't find anywhere they're published to < 1437140304 890758 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you tried pressing the button < 1437140358 911626 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup, it says 'ok' < 1437140367 403393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I have a "launch the nukes" button but I can't find anywhere they're fired to. < 1437140373 550927 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just checking.) < 1437140472 650871 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fib crashes taneb's too < 1437140478 985904 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you tried launching the nukes in debug mode? < 1437140488 406890 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :jayCampbell, does it crash in the same place? < 1437140860 813561 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437140869 408182 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get farther than me < 1437140886 940693 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll fix mine when i get a minute < 1437140900 161156 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even remember how mine works < 1437140915 923939 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although it's certainly not complicated, I just haven't touched it in 5 years) < 1437140932 442401 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's your pinnacle work as of today? < 1437140962 917146 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pass < 1437140984 444351 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I normally write small programs for fun rather than impressive things < 1437141041 98089 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I am still proud I wrote solutions to Project Euler problems that worked decently in Scratch < 1437141047 301039 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I was 15 < 1437141077 429034 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm proud of fungot. < 1437141077 535313 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: then how do you save files in emacs? < 1437141088 115892 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did write an intentionally quartic time fizzbuzz in Haskell recently < 1437141101 989201 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: C-x C-s, just like anyone else. < 1437141102 95565 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: s/ duct tape/ glue with fnord fnord..." is < 1437141135 939070 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/AbstractBeliefs/BadBuzz/blob/master/Haskell/Taneb2.hs < 1437141200 273345 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[09:52] I normally write small programs for fun rather than impressive things < 1437141205 332242 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know the feeling < 1437141808 900896 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :11,2*,2*,2*,3",5,9 < 1437141880 706695 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :close < 1437141899 735824 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a kindergartener or a brainfuck interpreter < 1437142006 372894 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21 < 1437142013 310276 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're up the second grader level < 1437142026 465140 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where we remind the class what a prime is < 1437142210 919111 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should be a self-interpreting factor < 1437142217 519524 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for performance < 1437142228 650390 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given a brainfuck program P and a self-interpreter S < 1437142233 489743 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :count the cycles S(P) takes < 1437142247 824116 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :x0=S(P),x1=S(S(P),x2=S(S(S(P)) and so on < 1437142252 929531 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then fit it to a curve < 1437142272 369368 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :jayCampbell, that sounds like an improvement < 1437142311 772872 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. my irssi buffer was behind. :( < 1437142423 76167 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your buffers are indeed behind: http://eigenratios.blogspot.com < 1437142537 157874 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can any real number be represented as a continued fraction with all numerators set to 1? < 1437142699 781589 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :At every step you have a real number in the range [0, 1), so it is always possible. < 1437142964 439920 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let cfrac x = let n = floor x in n : cfrac (1/(x-n)) in cfrac (pi::CReal) < 1437142965 812137 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Integral CReal) arising from a use of ‘cfrac’ < 1437142965 918213 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the expression: cfrac (pi :: CReal) < 1437142965 972568 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the expression: < 1437142976 171721 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let cfrac x = let n = floor x in n : cfrac (1/(x-fromInteger n)) in cfrac (pi::CReal) < 1437142979 969680 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1437142996 545118 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, creal is so inefficient < 1437143005 471671 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let cfrac x = let n = floor x in n : cfrac (1/(x-fromInteger n)) in take 100 $ cfrac (pi::CReal) < 1437143009 372874 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1437143011 836483 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let cfrac x = let n = floor x in n : cfrac (1/(x-fromInteger n)) in take 10 $ cfrac (pi::CReal) < 1437143013 538821 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [3,7,15,1,292,1,1,1,2,1] < 1437143043 512027 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl NICK :mauris < 1437143088 509166 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, that probably isn't the best conversion algorithm either < 1437143748 537421 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1437143978 518618 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437144277 992571 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437144350 368646 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1437145054 852661 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437145206 372962 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1437145218 258033 :aretecode!~aretecode@173.192.170.114-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437145848 52590 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437146836 341157 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: help < 1437146919 549796 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help < 1437146919 604183 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1437147145 42315 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric : > let cfrac x = let n = floor x in n : cfrac (1/(x-fromInteger n)) in take 10 $ cfrac (pi::CReal) < 1437147153 991062 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language is that < 1437147242 800696 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell < 1437147295 796028 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nerds < 1437147372 413418 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1437147432 72365 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? haskell < 1437147442 24542 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unbound implicit parameter (?haskell::Wisdom) \ arising from a use of implicit parameter `?haskell' < 1437147469 800685 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? haskell' < 1437147470 666946 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell'? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1437147506 138551 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ln wisdom/haskell{,\'} < 1437147506 830075 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: accessing `wisdom/haskell{,\\\'}': No such file or directory < 1437147513 298278 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln wisdom/haskell{,\'} < 1437147515 593225 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437147635 712992 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scientists Develop Nutritious Seaweed That Tastes Like Bacon < 1437147647 455052 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everybody go home, we're done with science < 1437147802 68100 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scientists develop nutritious human that tastes like seaweed < 1437147855 144015 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scientists develop nutritious bacon that tastes like human < 1437147899 621551 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nutritious bacon? Impressive. < 1437147904 624874 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437148183 163446 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437151441 997069 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437151442 207570 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437151673 583070 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-13-79.w90-44.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1437151940 102540 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437152042 406596 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fagvdnvuaokepcup NICK :oopa < 1437152053 269370 :oopa!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fagvdnvuaokepcup NICK :supay < 1437152096 670154 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437152123 120134 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :jayCampbell, http://i.imgur.com/ADdkS1P.png < 1437152135 883492 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't implemented input yet < 1437152357 318914 :Guest62171!dlopen@libdl.so NICK :Gregor < 1437152386 581301 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so NICK :Guest96391 < 1437152398 842841 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it fib? < 1437152421 991338 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf +++++++++++>+>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<<<<<<[>[>>>>>>+>+<<<<<<<-]>>>>>>>[<<<<<<<+>>>>>>>-]<[>++++++++++[-<-[>>+>+<<<-]>>>[<<<+>>>-]+<[>[-]<[-]]>[<<[>>>+<<<-]>>[-]]<<]>>>[>>+>+<<<-]>>>[<<<+>>>-]+<[>[-]<[-]]>[<<+>>[-]]<<<<<<<]>>>>>[++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]]++++++++++<[->-<]>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]<<<<<<<<<<<<[>>>+> < 1437152455 854416 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp < 1437152463 84618 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :line length < 1437152490 812816 :Guest96391!dlopen@libdl.so NICK :Gregor < 1437152506 734785 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437152566 820697 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the silliest thing that both fungot's internal and display formats for bf code do the RLEish thing, but the input doesn't. :/ < 1437152567 273584 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: unless you're in one of the references on olin shivers' phd theses are good starts for the basis, and cursors can trivially be implemented in an optimized way of doing it was.)) < 1437152590 683642 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :jayCampbell, can you send me a link? < 1437152795 284027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1437153172 885295 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437153247 69572 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437153402 772132 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437153493 885354 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437153942 867086 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :jayCampbell, can you please send me a link to the fib program pleae? < 1437154513 121794 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it http://www.hevanet.com/cristofd/brainfuck/fib.b ? < 1437154519 281649 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it runs that correctly < 1437154726 813568 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :jayCampbell, now with input: http://i.imgur.com/qd5o8Rj.png < 1437154804 318170 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also does Hello world through Dbfi < 1437154873 377777 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION learns that while ghc doesn't ensure global coherence for class instances, it does so for type family instances < 1437154920 382113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in other words, someone already thought of my latest unsafeCoerce idea. < 1437154972 674581 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that scratch or snap < 1437155070 883608 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :jayCampbell, Snap < 1437155125 214809 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :jayCampbell, here is XML: http://runciman.hacksoc.org/~taneb/bf_snap.xml < 1437155236 263192 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you replace instructions in-place with jump addresses, nift < 1437155349 856611 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use the sign bit to tell if it is a forward jump or backward jump < 1437155358 365188 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the addresses are absolute < 1437155643 403034 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :jayCampbell, if you can think of any improvements, feel free < 1437155681 541461 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, that's a bug < 1437155731 323115 :_256Q!~toastyten@host86-174-112-40.range86-174.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437155731 414672 :_256Q!~toastyten@host86-174-112-40.range86-174.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Changing host < 1437155731 414732 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437156363 871596 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :jayCampbell, there is at least one bug in this program < 1437156385 208105 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine too still, i keep spitting out non-primes < 1437156409 419645 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What bf program are you running? < 1437156422 482008 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437156455 558367 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1437156459 904998 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm running fib not primes < 1437156501 249934 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's working < 1437156505 711794 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hee < 1437156581 189333 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would explain why it's printing non-primes :) < 1437156663 371999 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was working 4 hours ago [10:09] 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21 < 1437156791 139352 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, fixed my bug < 1437156814 551044 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to put jump addresses in two pairs of arrays (index and pointer, left and right) < 1437156869 318141 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then integers in the command stream could be optimized collapses of ++++++++ and ------- < 1437157156 980733 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok you run them like this < 1437157158 363911 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://snap.berkeley.edu/snapsource/snap.html#present:Username=jens&ProjectName=funny%20face < 1437157213 524615 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so mine is http://snap.berkeley.edu/snapsource/snap.html#present:Username=jayCampbell&ProjectName=brainfuck < 1437157324 879850 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shows the canvas, not the dev environment < 1437157375 97540 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's some stuff from jens https://plus.google.com/+JensM%C3%B6nig/posts < 1437157474 321693 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the dev env is there, canvas starts maximized < 1437157826 490678 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437158027 566285 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437158175 206856 :mihow!~mihow@172.56.39.91 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437158611 927334 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a thingy with a lambda as its logo this seems awfully imperative/procedural < 1437158697 786153 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1437158699 633957 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tvtrope/We'll write about TVTropes here, we just have to finish these tabs first. < 1437158702 789097 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris, it does support functional programming which was originally what set it apart from Scratch < 1437158721 906285 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:JayCampbell14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43554&oldid=12931 5* 03JayCampbell 5* (+244) 10 < 1437158862 659258 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop that < 1437158873 162738 :mihow!~mihow@172.56.39.91 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437158938 978458 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1437158941 233462 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437158941 796013 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :character/A character is just a homomorphism to the group of complex numbers of modulus 1. < 1437158983 56288 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm homomorphophobic < 1437159013 551038 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437159303 374621 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some species can thrive in such artificial environments, such as topologists (homo topi). < 1437159350 39429 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dirty flatlanders < 1437159448 317406 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb did you publish yours < 1437159737 901077 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.stack.imgur.com/T7qLM.png < 1437159768 723097 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i honestly can't tell if this is a mathematica joke or a mathematica proof-of-"why-would-you-do-that"-ness < 1437160002 212005 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437160314 379260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :porque no los dos < 1437160991 215932 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437161095 381725 :_256Q!~toastyten@host86-174-112-40.range86-174.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437161095 474631 :_256Q!~toastyten@host86-174-112-40.range86-174.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Changing host < 1437161095 474687 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437162371 300335 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437163010 273517 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-222-167.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1437163078 948795 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437163289 860805 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar lowi < 1437163290 492775 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 171950Z VRB02KT 9999 FEW030 SCT060 BKN180 17/16 Q1025 NOSIG < 1437163301 891279 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so humid :/ < 1437163324 166696 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one more and you'd be swimming < 1437163616 76554 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL < 1437163616 387137 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 171950Z 28008KT CAVOK 19/10 Q1013 NOSIG < 1437163627 733674 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says it's not humid, but it sure doesn't feel that way. < 1437163630 210511 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least in here. < 1437163639 599399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually outside it was surprisingly pleasant at sunset time. < 1437164012 455840 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-222-167.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1437164263 841025 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437164285 468737 :bertro!~bertro@unaffiliated/bertro JOIN :#esoteric < 1437164344 671620 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437164443 302898 :bertro!~bertro@unaffiliated/bertro PART :#esoteric < 1437164826 169540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Translation now is to help the computer ferocious landing force. < 1437165298 213674 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Attention all passengers, this is captain fungot speaking. We are currently experiencing a ferocious landing force. < 1437165298 623601 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: is there any difference between that and a reference to its object representation. ( the fnord takes the stream to write to a pipe isn't exactly rocket science. < 1437165549 527226 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you're disturbingly good at imitating IRC chatter < 1437165549 730737 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what more do you expect him to cognitively work better. < 1437165571 692775 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1437165571 794793 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1437165634 608767 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( but the fnord giveth it away ) < 1437165649 665885 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1437165650 918260 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :log/I think you might mean !logs < 1437165680 85853 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? !logs < 1437165681 38229 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!logs? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1437165764 610211 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⶈ < 1437165765 510923 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2D88 ETHIOPIC SYLLABLE NOA] < 1437165776 290628 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, the neural net got that one completely wrong. < 1437165788 779387 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It identified that character as "U+033/ ANDHIYNOIN ODGOAT SOL UNINULE CHArGE FOOF". < 1437165825 618361 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coin < 1437165826 320862 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: coin: not found < 1437165840 33370 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1437165842 108534 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` coins # or is this the wrong bot? < 1437165843 389932 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02boidcoin 06memblecoin 13comfgcoin 04braidcoin 07.coin 08befuckcoin 09sureheadcoin 02wakecoin 06magnifullvcoin 13smillicoin 04noobabtizedcoin 07hargaturklincoin 08uelyfaitaffriecoin 09rewcoin 02tungercoin 06auckycoin 13myoycoin 04abccoin 07ascucoin 08bfpcoin < 1437165844 538848 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02><>coin 06concoin 13persublingcoin 04drainfuchcoin 07posioncacoin 08tercoin 09aatesyzcoin 02crafcoin 06metrucoin 13truircoin 04trudecoin 07devissimcoin 08optehinncoin 09extcoin 02eloquackcoin 06iintecoin 13treedcoin 04xnveycoin 07intencoin 08levcoin < 1437165859 191187 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :><>coin <-- wouldn't trust that one < 1437165880 685216 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As my grandpa used to say: "Don't take no ASCII fish nickels." < 1437165891 658059 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/coins < 1437165893 424224 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} | sed -re 's/( |$)/coin\1/g' | rainwords < 1437165920 92537 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :><> is a rather fishy word < 1437165947 245432 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"noobabtized" is a cute word though < 1437166038 363852 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :.coin sounds better for SEO than befuckcoin. < 1437166130 283523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on your target group < 1437166254 688869 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1437166256 33388 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot/lambdabot is a fully functional bot. just don't ask about @src. < 1437166259 307272 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/coins < 1437166261 165349 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett kmc oerjan elliott oerjan FireFly ion kmc kmc < 1437166408 968757 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh? When did I edit it? < 1437166599 622030 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : rm bin -r revert < 1437166626 913393 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll be getting a lot of credit for that :) < 1437166637 92064 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1437166683 284952 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07O14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43555&oldid=43553 5* 03Phase 5* (+200) 10/* Examples */ another example < 1437166733 502084 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tswett < 1437166734 365604 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett is livin' it up with the penguins because he's so bad at following directions. < 1437166773 121186 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat caa < 1437166773 740969 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: caa: No such file or directory < 1437166776 396577 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1437166777 185205 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spjong < 1437166853 502503 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( `learn_append tswett he invented bin/*. ) < 1437166886 267178 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`* < 1437166886 828332 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: *: not found < 1437166944 964845 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come to think of it, the entire Cold War seems kind of like history, too. < 1437166955 126545 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437167032 431290 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'echo $(ls bin | shuf -n 1) $*' > bin/\* < 1437167035 630919 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437167038 490112 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`* hi < 1437167038 968569 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/*: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/*: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1437167049 560301 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod +x bin/\* < 1437167052 72516 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437167054 283474 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`* hi < 1437167055 48777 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zalgoerjan hi < 1437167059 293080 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`* hi < 1437167060 93371 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :karma+ hi < 1437167084 679295 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't dare to `` sed -i s/echo.// bin/\* < 1437167131 569219 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`* * < 1437167132 373579 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​̊ :-( 0 113500 a a.o a.out argv.py bdsmreclist bin blah blah \ blah blah \ blah \ blah canary cat Complaints :-D dc dog emoticons error.log etc factor faith fu head hello hello.c hi hours ibin index.html?dl=1812 interps le letersort lib MaFV paste people.py pref prefs py.py quines quotes random_elliott real script.ppy script.py selflink share s < 1437167166 52803 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file dc < 1437167166 789644 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dc: ASCII text < 1437167170 672258 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat dc < 1437167171 312259 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​! ls -e a < 1437167183 313826 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd. < 1437167189 743621 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits dc < 1437167191 521567 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb < 1437167199 474768 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culpritz people.py < 1437167201 379178 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: culpritz: not found < 1437167203 239298 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits people.py < 1437167204 909579 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1 < 1437167238 540795 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`shuf emoticons < 1437167239 89276 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shuf: read error: Is a directory < 1437167289 650276 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, I don't remember doing that < 1437167353 623285 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: echo "! ls" > dc -e ? <-- doesn't look intentional anyway < 1437167460 951659 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $(cat emoticons/*) < 1437167461 755605 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol 凸 ガ~(゚ロ゚;)~ン (°Д°) (≧∇≦)/ ¯\(°​_o)/¯ ーー蟲蟲 オラオラオラ(三・o・)三☆三(`ε´三)無駄無駄無駄無駄 < 1437167574 561098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Zz? < 1437167592 764855 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1437168956 857967 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :My copy of the Hacker's Delight (2014) book has arrived today, great < 1437169673 948899 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437170257 206146 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1437171088 629577 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: [ < 1437171900 591704 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437172032 594331 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437172034 811187 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437172049 874210 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: QUINTHELLOPIAAAAAAAAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIAIIIIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAH! < 1437172441 922737 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup < 1437172523 296192 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1437172567 54694 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dogeza < 1437172581 153458 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... < 1437172582 739351 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry, I won't be able to border lands with you tomorrow :( < 1437172611 499393 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1437172644 60445 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would be a happier person if you went to chicago next weekend < 1437172688 262095 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... that's extremely tempting. I could use some real pizza. < 1437172712 909953 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am melting < 1437172784 603396 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got AC. sweet, cold AC. < 1437172800 389793 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hugs his AC unit «toi et moi, on est fait pour être ensemble» < 1437172902 892704 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KATL < 1437172903 304045 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KATL 172152Z 30009KT 10SM FEW055 33/21 A2999 RMK AO2 SLP143 CB DSNT SE T03330206 < 1437172908 773105 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fungot. < 1437172908 912979 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'll take a look at < 1437172929 790205 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: a quick look, I hope. otherwise you'll be sublimated. have you seen that?!? < 1437172929 893093 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: bubble sort is the canonical truth value. < 1437172941 679646 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: sort bubbles. apparently it's refreshing. < 1437172947 624698 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1437172948 140881 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 172200Z 15006KT 15SM OVC100 23/14 A2994 RMK AC8 SLP139 DENSITY ALT 1100FT < 1437172949 108289 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1437173288 948355 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437173458 551561 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437173898 781713 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i have arrived. lemme know when youd like to reschedule for < 1437173907 68554 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION --> < 1437173967 313385 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1437174163 500389 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1437174620 610768 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :will keep you updated for when my schedule settles down. < 1437175372 843889 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1437175534 883314 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night < 1437175546 128948 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, good evening < 1437175760 494883 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :borensoir. < 1437175977 869179 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :regular brainfuck: uses only characters *\[]+-/. matches a string if, as a regex, it matches the shortest string of + - and . that would print that string if interpreted as a brainfuck program < 1437176100 625575 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437176185 436416 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. the regebf '\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+\+' matches a single '!' < 1437176229 608306 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's actually an extended regebf < 1437176333 596249 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm wait no you need the following chraters only: ?\+-[] < 1437177268 141104 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437178087 347448 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:InputUsername14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43556&oldid=43396 5* 03InputUsername 5* (+227) 10Added GScript, implementation of GolfScript < 1437178172 677778 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437178331 139326 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:InputUsername14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43557&oldid=43556 5* 03InputUsername 5* (+61) 10 < 1437178356 379386 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:InputUsername14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43558&oldid=43557 5* 03InputUsername 5* (+6) 10Added break < 1437178697 570114 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: you should extend these regexpes à la perl, with an "e" switch. < 1437179932 759336 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1437180519 561484 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437181415 787458 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437181524 610203 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437181526 931053 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1437181771 156808 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437181833 686629 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An initial review of working at Google: this is the most exhausting tech job. < 1437181914 423600 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's like 6:15 in California right now, you just got off work? < 1437181952 859337 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Been off a little bit. < 1437182052 470854 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really.. my work starts at 10 and ends at 6 (so that there's more overlap with the california people) < 1437182143 701210 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the poeple in the toronto office work from 11-7 or 12-8 even. crazy < 1437182177 800060 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :12-8 would I think be the same as california 9-5 < 1437182240 55347 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-paecohuyjictgvaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :G told me i should write more java < 1437182565 968169 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-170-105-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Switching systems < 1437182618 82908 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b JOIN :#esoteric < 1437182937 977087 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437183081 936927 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437183144 469952 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8:30-5:00 is the best, even earlier if possible. < 1437183178 959601 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quiet and fresh mornings without too much traffic, nice bike rides... < 1437183352 940727 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: GRENADE CHICKEN < 1437184769 919588 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437185565 252919 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you get rid of ants < 1437185633 894756 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-paecohuyjictgvaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pour sugar water on the ground < 1437185641 517350 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-paecohuyjictgvaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They cant stand the stuff < 1437185669 105480 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I did to get the ants < 1437185684 54725 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I need to get wird of them tdnh < 1437185761 632597 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to try boiling water < 1437185793 152538 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm it's killing them... < 1437185869 665005 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully these ants having been boiled alive will send a message to the ant queen that her progeny are not wlcome in my home < 1437186934 289495 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:a8ab:353:16a3:df8f JOIN :#esoteric < 1437188458 750257 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:a8ab:353:16a3:df8f PART :#esoteric < 1437192168 248455 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1437194651 7833 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437194651 601106 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437195032 501690 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-55-161.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1437195465 781718 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-55-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are some people on today? < 1437195494 126248 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1437195500 77011 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-55-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1437195573 987493 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-55-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still do not know how long it take until my HTTP and gopher services are available again. However one thing to be concern about is possibly the HTTP service will be changed into case-sensitive, so please take that into account in case something doesn't work < 1437195593 468998 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-55-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have digital music in my VCR < 1437195630 246110 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-55-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says I have a lot of digital channels, but most of them don't work, and most of them that do work have no picture. Do you know why? < 1437195708 612176 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-55-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can tell you one idea I had, to make up a "second-level VM" for implementing Z-machine < 1437195758 112016 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-55-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there is one main program, but the stuff of differences of ZIP, EZIP, XZIP, YZIP, and possibly even DIP and Inform, in other file it loads and then also load story file < 1437196146 237903 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-55-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My ideas there are two address spaces but the code and data are stored in the same address space instead of in different one. < 1437196185 498031 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-55-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is sort of like a microcode system I suppose, one address space is like the microcode (except that it isn't, but it is kind of like a similar idea) < 1437196294 958354 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-55-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I looked at TempleOS a bit recently; one thing it has that I like is the #exe command. < 1437196451 593554 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-paecohuyjictgvaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HolyC and Red Sea Filesystem lol < 1437196483 342594 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-paecohuyjictgvaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 you should see his YouTube videos, specifically his replies to replies to his YouTube videos, hilarious < 1437196490 961817 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437196705 199654 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-55-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What VM is use for the purpose mainly to run a class of other VM? < 1437196812 868286 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-55-161.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1437197245 439367 :aretecode!~aretecode@173.192.170.114-static.reverse.softlayer.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437198401 429167 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hanoi Love14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43559&oldid=43473 5* 03Rdebath 5* (-27) 10Smaller Hello world example < 1437202931 452262 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437202968 232532 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sut oedd eich int-e dydd? < 1437202972 622390 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1437202976 800533 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How was your day < 1437202981 890907 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nvm I can't speak today < 1437203123 893478 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LOWI < 1437203124 105577 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 180650Z VRB03KT 9999 FEW080 18/15 Q1023 NOSIG < 1437203638 10814 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437205557 829080 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for f in bin/*; do culprits "$f" | grep -q FireFly && echo "$f"; done < 1437205588 278860 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437205607 153971 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not right < 1437206099 456626 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1437206247 608653 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for f in bin/*; do culprits "$f" | tr -cd a-zA-z | grep -q FireFly && echo "$f"; done < 1437206278 281645 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/! < 1437206519 272075 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1437206534 190432 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for f in bin/*; do culprits "$f" | grep -q FireFly && echo "$f"; done | tr -cd \[:print:] < 1437206551 489593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it too late to tr after the grep? < 1437206566 303635 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, never mind < 1437206570 400371 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437206602 23098 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps our low-tech hero ireFl can help here < 1437206614 309721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I'm guessing that maybe it's just a timeout. < 1437206685 713282 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a-zA-z ? < 1437206772 201228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oddly enough, that works here. < 1437206775 384879 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to be different, just in case. < 1437206781 975071 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :-.- < 1437207143 537649 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't grok Erlang/Elixir OTP < 1437207173 735732 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, do most applications used named processes? Wouldn't this mean that two applications could end up conflicting if internal process names conflict? < 1437207191 206847 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't named processes a form of global state? < 1437208317 126877 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --stat bin | sed -n '/summary: */,/files changed/' | grep -Po '(?<=^ )[^|]+(?=\| +[0-9]+ )' | xargs -n 1 echo | sort -u | xargs < 1437208319 881679 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 37: missing command < 1437208325 312022 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --stat bin | sed -n '/summary: */,/files changed/p' | grep -Po '(?<=^ )[^|]+(?=\| +[0-9]+ )' | xargs -n 1 echo | sort -u | xargs < 1437208326 953595 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437208679 136150 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1437208689 16245 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --stat --removed bin | sed -n '/summary: */,/files changed/p' | grep -Po '(?<=^ )[^|]+(?=\| +[0-9]+ )' | xargs -n 1 echo | sort -u | xargs < 1437208730 24063 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437208743 925470 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --stat --removed bin | sed -n '/summary: */,/files changed/p' | grep -Po '(?<=^ )[^|]+(?=\| +[0-9]+ )' xargs -n 1 < 1437208760 439878 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: xargs: No such file or directory \ grep: 1: No such file or directory < 1437208808 62148 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --stat --removed bin | sed -n '/summary: */,/files changed/p' | grep -Po '(?<=^ )[^|]+(?=\| +[0-9]+ )' | xargs -n 1 < 1437208833 850523 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/döts \ bin/wisdöm \ bin/döts \ bin/döts \ bin/döts \ bin/culprits \ bin/culprits \ bin/culprits \ bin/culprits \ bin/culprits \ bin/culprits \ bin/wlcm \ bin/wlcmr \ bin/wlcm \ bin/wlcmr \ bin/coins \ bin/r13elcome \ bin/runcpp \ bin/runcpp \ bin/runcpp \ bin/ls \ bin/olist \ bin/olist \ bin/welcome \ bin/it \ bin/pastelog \ bin/! \ bin/! < 1437208862 943865 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`r13elcome FireFly < 1437208863 559588 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: r13elcome: not found < 1437209135 525127 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-lojkvycghmxlmbtf QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437209243 429316 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-suewdaasvjwbamwj JOIN :#esoteric < 1437209652 392085 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437210276 292884 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1437211406 818512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1437212497 98682 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437214010 46955 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/*13* < 1437214011 98106 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/rot13 < 1437214946 523976 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $'#!python\ns=set()\ntry:\n while True:\n l=raw_input()\n if l not in s:\n s.add(l)\n print(l)\nexcept IOError:\n pass' > bin/uniqs && chmod +x bin/uniqs < 1437214948 815289 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437214963 433080 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --stat --removed bin | sed -n '/summary: */,/files changed/p' | grep -Po '(?<=^ )[^|]+(?=\| +[0-9]+ )' | xargs -n 1 | uniqs | xargs < 1437214991 780366 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: /hackenv/bin/uniqs: python: bad interpreter: No such file or directory \ \ xargs: /bin/echo: terminated by signal 13 < 1437215020 442771 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i -e 's,python,/usr/bin/python,' bin/uniqs < 1437215023 671220 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437215050 934532 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1437215053 134393 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits bin/culprits | xargs -n 1 | uniqs | xargs < 1437215055 370852 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/uniqs", line 5, in \ l=raw_input() \ EOFError: EOF when reading a line \ Jafet tswett shachaf FireFly < 1437215075 678636 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Badger mushrooms < 1437215085 854388 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i -e 's,IOError,EOFError,' bin/uniqs < 1437215087 618319 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437215099 735410 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --stat --removed bin | sed -n '/summary: */,/files changed/p' | grep -Po '(?<=^ )[^|]+(?=\| +[0-9]+ )' | xargs -n 1 | uniqs | xargs < 1437215125 540838 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/döts bin/wisdöm bin/culprits bin/wlcm bin/wlcmr bin/coins bin/r13elcome bin/runcpp bin/ls bin/olist bin/welcome bin/it bin/pastelog bin/! < 1437217515 952915 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-suewdaasvjwbamwj QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1437217539 115108 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`döts is this thing on? < 1437217540 912823 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ïs ẗḧïs ẗḧïng ön? < 1437217601 966680 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-eyspmyvzeypxwuoi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437217871 778387 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's uniqs? < 1437217885 315944 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437217893 652049 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i see < 1437218043 62982 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? unix < 1437218043 942634 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unix? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1437218201 532763 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437218210 405410 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1437219612 205913 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-eyspmyvzeypxwuoi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437219637 417565 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ylzbieafzjpzdydo JOIN :#esoteric < 1437219926 606808 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.135 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437219938 428951 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.135 QUIT :Changing host < 1437219938 483256 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437221194 333345 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437221540 211949 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdöm < 1437221541 702733 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzö38/zzö38 ïs nöẗ äcẗüällÿ ẗḧë nëẍẗ vërsïön öf füngöẗ, mücḧ äs ïẗ mäÿ sëëm. < 1437221673 68315 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the IOCCC has started, btw < 1437221681 779025 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they decided to announce that it had started some time after it actually started < 1437221685 479545 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is interesting < 1437222166 682000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We had a heated (fsvo) discussion about that on-channel soon after the announcement. < 1437222206 837215 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The end of getting a funny timestamp justifies the means, I guess. < 1437222471 899901 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437223523 518058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, the latest version of GNU yes is over 60 times faster than the previous version < 1437223550 274315 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised that a) there was such scope for optimization, and b) that optimizing yes is something that people actually cared about < 1437223788 275288 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it matters if you're using yes to fill up a file < 1437223802 867917 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that disk is fast < 1437223813 978042 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes was actually a bottleneck < 1437223850 373301 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm making this up based on the fact i've only used yes to fill free space on partitions < 1437223919 138211 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they claimed it might matter if using yes to generate source data as part of a testsuite < 1437223944 366507 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why did you want to exhaust all free space on the partition? < 1437223962 727177 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps /dev/full was broken. < 1437224014 407537 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only time you should use `yes' for test data is when running the test suite for `yes'... < 1437224055 252056 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps there should be a /dev/pseudorandom. < 1437224067 623703 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A "repeat source" mode for dd might make sense. It already has quite a few options/conversions. < 1437224080 251458 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't think you can /read/ from /dev/full… < 1437224088 917326 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You can, but you only read zeros. < 1437224093 879216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, that makes sense < 1437224109 296185 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to think of it, this implies that /dev/zero could sensibly be removed < 1437224125 186340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it reads like /dev/full and writes like /dev/null, so both halves of its functionality are available elsewhere < 1437224147 473058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(/dev/null reads as a zero-length file, right?) < 1437224174 576198 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. At least as far as plain reads are concerned. < 1437224181 464823 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure whether it seeks like a zero-length file. < 1437224227 590833 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: poor man's disk scrubber for server customers < 1437224243 1238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jayCampbell: you know of shred, right? < 1437224250 830009 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly it doesn't work properly on SSDs < 1437224258 998886 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know they had servers back in the 90s right < 1437224266 819069 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, overwriting with alternate "y" and "\n" doesn't work with SSDs either < 1437224281 358203 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shread's been around for ages, I think < 1437224284 552953 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shred < 1437224297 334516 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes is cross platform and already there < 1437224300 790851 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be surprised if it wasn't around in the 90s < 1437224321 771464 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :same reason i still use vi everywhere < 1437224355 502442 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed that shred was part of POSIX < 1437224358 64725 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it isn't though < 1437224383 516256 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its documentation cites the algo as being based on a paper published in 1996, so it perhaps hasn't been around as long as I thought < 1437224385 27665 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric : /dev/pseudorandom is a one-liner with fuse < 1437224400 534759 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You use `yes' to scrub disks, not dd (disk destroyer)? < 1437224424 151059 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was other valid data still on the disk < 1437224448 720470 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you mean dd as input source < 1437224451 612261 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i've used that < 1437224453 413057 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1437224568 244768 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes yes, it's clear that you've used yes. < 1437224690 912174 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437224741 97204 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The shred info manual doesn't seem to mention flash storage anywhere < 1437224762 879414 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes 01234567890123456789 |head -n 40 > grid.txt < 1437224795 361415 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flash is tricky because there's a raid-like controller between you and the disk < 1437224797 438006 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1437224823 113569 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bits you overwrite may not actually be overwritten < 1437224880 156611 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't overwrite the flash drive of a laptop with medical records on it reliably < 1437224908 641834 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hijacking the controller gives you access to the raw reassigned bits < 1437224936 525974 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably cheaper at that point to (physically) shred it < 1437224955 396437 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssd is getting cheeeeeap < 1437224969 560724 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some neural net-generated METAR: EGGW 231420Z 10000KT 9999 FEW009 09/04 Q1004 NOSIG < 1437224975 832951 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437224986 497726 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dies are going to 9 and 10 mm < 1437224992 541081 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moore goes strong < 1437225003 698220 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm? nm < 1437225039 512660 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google ITAO EGGW < 1437225040 672246 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://italodeli.co.uk/ < 1437225040 726468 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: italo delicatessen < 1437225048 434877 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9mm dies would result in stadium-sized chips < 1437225065 728428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: i can believe that's the weather in luton < 1437225111 257042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google ICAO EGGW < 1437225111 668951 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luton_Airport < 1437225116 501730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1437225170 243524 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that's apparently the London Luton airport. It's 14:20 UTC on the 23rd. The wind is coming from 100 degrees and has a speed of 0 knots. < 1437225178 198821 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :knots? < 1437225197 740546 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knots. < 1437225209 567790 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :nots. < 1437225223 893992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nuts! < 1437225290 667239 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prevailing visibility is 9999 meters. FEW009 is probably a cloud layer; I'll come back to that one. The temperature is 9 C and the dewpoint is 4 C. < 1437225332 193701 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Altimeter setting is 1004 hPa. No significant changes expected in the next two hours. < 1437225534 978957 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right. There are a few clouds, with the base of the cloud layer at 900 feet. < 1437225632 685893 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KGRR < 1437225633 276237 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KGRR 181253Z 19005KT 10SM BKN200 BKN250 24/21 A2988 RMK AO2 SLP111 T02390211 < 1437226092 15438 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar tisx < 1437226094 355765 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :TISX 181253Z 11010KT 10SM SCT021 29/21 A3006 RMK AO2 SLP178 T02890211 < 1437226227 258385 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wunderground.com/metarFAQ.asp < 1437226482 536534 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so at what point does the neural net actually start predicting the weather accurately? < 1437226539 998510 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have access to a modeling system or does it have to figure that out itself < 1437226740 971209 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's psychic. < 1437226750 787583 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar NZIR < 1437226750 994378 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No result. < 1437226815 867145 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar NZWD < 1437226816 298021 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No result. < 1437226857 401682 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437226900 275183 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-211.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1437226903 533779 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYZ < 1437226904 86542 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 181300Z 31004KT 260V320 9SM BKN005 22/20 A2988 RMK SF6 SLP116 DENSITY ALT 1600FT < 1437227003 926103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1437227852 552608 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1437227896 508411 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437228382 282046 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437229317 352039 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437231658 710534 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :xoff ignored mumble mumble < 1437233317 262128 :password2!~password@197.76.136.173 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437233374 68138 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar lowi < 1437233374 530742 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 181520Z 08008KT 050V120 9999 SCT070 FEW070CB BKN140 30/15 Q1017 TEMPO FM1600 27015G25KT < 1437233940 118202 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1437234059 109151 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437234093 222172 :password2!~password@197.76.136.173 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437234209 829181 :password2!~password@197.76.136.173 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437234376 298809 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sucks to apparently have scoliosis. < 1437234518 64412 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, :/// < 1437234532 755356 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope it turns out it's something less scary < 1437234541 643057 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scoliosis isn't that scary. < 1437234548 308794 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might be thinking sclerosis. < 1437234558 472669 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scoliosis is the disorder where your spine is curved wrong. < 1437234640 122451 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scoliosis, except when profoundly severe, mostly just means that you hurt and might have issues with certain physical movements. < 1437234662 188813 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It *sucks*, but in terms of long-term prognosis or anything that's mostly it. < 1437234673 316030 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might be thinking of sciatica < 1437234689 671763 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scoliosis is just a consequence of the human back being shit. :) < 1437234698 457872 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's a relief < 1437234715 102950 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like 3% of the population has it to some degree. < 1437234779 692232 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't make me worry like that! :( < 1437234780 430992 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1437234786 399268 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have scoliosis < 1437234793 852346 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah. Recently noticed that I have a noticably curved back, along with my freaking right scapula jutting out. (that HURTS) < 1437234796 769892 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's very minor and not an issue to me < 1437234807 165491 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ouch < 1437234807 513003 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then found out I've got a family history of it. < 1437234828 780843 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're somewhere where it's not cheap to get it fixed... < 1437234843 149489 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The scapula jutting out is not a new observation, FWIW < 1437234849 488055 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Yes, but I work for Google. < 1437234858 331631 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-222-167.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1437234883 300065 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-222-167.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Expanding / partition < 1437234900 885022 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is almost like living in a civilized country. < 1437234954 641161 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ah yeah, that'll help :) < 1437235163 246633 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437235616 323037 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mom has a steel rod holding her back straight < 1437235839 782810 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can get one? < 1437235859 823148 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the common way to solve a scoliosis < 1437235873 677607 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends. They might not recommend surgery though. < 1437235880 554093 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends on the spinal curvature. < 1437235883 607466 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only used in major cases though < 1437235901 164498 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bit more common is stuff like braces. < 1437235908 226769 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And physical therapy. < 1437235947 204132 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you can to some extent effect it/reduce chance of progression with carefully designed exercise routines) < 1437236372 310056 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1437237221 657719 :jayCampbell!d031c2a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.49.194.162 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1437237564 922973 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437237694 118398 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437237971 21679 :aretecode!~aretecode@173.192.170.114-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437238524 39727 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :nerp < 1437238639 768787 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437238770 556421 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT : < 1437238976 818737 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437239046 952485 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-222-167.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1437239319 75568 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437239498 442845 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ:herp derp < 1437239560 124962 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-222-167.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1437239744 127708 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1437239761 543956 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :merp < 1437239762 861579 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437239765 855392 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :perp < 1437239811 678192 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's a shame that Wacom doesn't have their website at wa.com. < 1437239841 168968 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have a TLD (a real one, not one of these newfangled ones) at the end of your name anyway, you should take advantage of it. < 1437239917 730831 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was disappointed to find that there isn't .on < 1437239936 756203 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1437239942 969645 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I got orenwatson.be because belgian domains are cheap < 1437239947 233556 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly wa.com's been there since 1988, so maybe they'd have to have been very quick in adopting all this e-commerce stuff. But currently wa.com seems to be an empty website with only the text "WA.com" on it, registered by "XXI Ventures Limited", and that looks like a waste. < 1437239951 977918 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was under the impreson you could have .anything at this point < 1437239981 53376 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :only if you pay a lot I think < 1437240000 617837 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and I'm not sure they allow two-letter names for the new TLDs. < 1437240017 662898 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just so that if ISO assigns a new alpha-2 country code at some point, it won't conflict. < 1437240043 13217 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ontario should secede ao that I can have a .on < 1437240059 358768 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a handy table at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1_alpha-2#Decoding_table -- there's actually quite a few gaps. < 1437240079 710692 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: They'd give it .zq or something out of pique. < 1437240129 676613 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats .io's deal? (honestly know very little about it, just gleaned that genraly it relates to something) < 1437240165 318730 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :.io is very expensive (somehtin like $40). it is used for api's and new javascript b ullshit < 1437240199 256766 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :toronto should have .yz < 1437240209 974001 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enugh < 1437240233 275702 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's basically demand that determines it < 1437240246 679172 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's officially "British Indian Ocean Territory". < 1437240267 777083 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-- an overseas territory of the United Kingdom situated in the Indian Ocean halfway between Tanzania and Indonesia." < 1437240301 163577 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good old British empire, I'd say, if I wasn't just a filthy immigrant here in UK. < 1437240315 96270 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you can admire the British empire despite being an immigrant < 1437240317 849472 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, someone has to < 1437240323 853837 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437240365 337991 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the british empire but only some parts like the queeen < 1437240459 215808 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :.ai is available but it costs 100$ a year < 1437240518 397554 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1437240554 455536 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had misremembered that the sun was now setting on the empire, but apparently it doesn't quite yet. < 1437240598 330809 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Every night, around midnight GMT, the Sun sets on the Cayman Islands, and doesn't rise over the British Indian Ocean Territory until after 1:00 AM. For that hour, the little Pitcairn Islands in the South Pacific are the only British territory in the Sun. The Pitcairn Islands have a population of a few dozen people, the descendants of the mutineers from the HMS Bounty. The islands became ... < 1437240604 355993 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... notorious in 2004 when a third of the adult male population, including the mayor, were convicted of child sexual abuse." (xkcd what-if) < 1437240605 630540 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically it never does, especially if you count the antarctic britsh territory and the northernmost part of canasa < 1437240668 715904 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait that's the commonwealth < 1437240717 322275 :password2!~password@197.76.136.173 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437240721 993719 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canada claims a pie-slice reaching up to the pole < 1437240746 997678 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, apparently only the territories count for this. < 1437241298 383895 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1437241684 55108 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wubwubwubwubwubwub < 1437242250 860936 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9imR1SZs_Ek < 1437242278 274982 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are youtube video ids base64 numbers? < 1437242316 283794 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437242334 302633 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... apparently not < 1437242753 649919 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437242828 111268 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beth mae erchyll y bore! v_v < 1437242857 374772 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm so tired I frel like I'm gonna melt But I can't go to sleep cuz its day and that unproductive < 1437243082 782557 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437243115 162894 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to do something useful while tired is also typically unproductive < 1437243256 912025 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then have a tetraspresso < 1437243335 785555 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a form of coffee I invented. four espresso shots + maple syrup, milk and whipped cream) < 1437243362 866671 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is served in a giant tall glass < 1437243479 331604 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't have espresso, you can use instant coffee, just triple the amount it says to use on the label < 1437243518 947959 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437243622 137719 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer the prefix tetra to quad < 1437243861 865823 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437243862 112263 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 QUIT :Changing host < 1437243862 166453 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437244043 565109 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-240.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437245484 524029 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-paecohuyjictgvaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a list of numeric prefixes < 1437245500 764691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fowl: basically just Latin and Greek numbers < 1437245528 636764 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-paecohuyjictgvaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Una, duo, tri, quadra, penta, septa, ?? < 1437245551 72172 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :octa? < 1437245567 283662 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-paecohuyjictgvaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whats 7 < 1437245606 334206 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eka- dvi- tri- chatur- pancha- < 1437245608 287617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hept- or sept- < 1437245614 267891 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for 7) < 1437245641 989465 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess what language that was < 1437245648 559503 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-paecohuyjictgvaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh whats six then < 1437245658 242143 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-paecohuyjictgvaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren indian? < 1437245658 578616 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sex < 1437245668 438589 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sanscrit, yeah < 1437245685 277407 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :used by mendeleev for his predicted elements < 1437245704 218626 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-paecohuyjictgvaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I start counting at 0 though < 1437245733 853486 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 is sex- or hex- < 1437245749 942908 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or sometimes seg-, because an x can become a g in some contexts in Latin < 1437245769 282631 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-paecohuyjictgvaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sexsexsex < 1437245804 659642 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bagatelle! < 1437245840 193133 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you bird-brains learned to count from 1 instead, you could count one higher. < 1437245887 404475 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. germanium was called eka-silicon and rhenium dvi-manganese < 1437245907 788339 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1437245911 838974 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the original element is the zeroth < 1437246197 75235 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, Flerovium could be called eka-Lead, dvi-Tin, tri-Germanium, chatur-Silicon, or pancha-Carbon < 1437246494 686349 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437246494 872899 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 QUIT :Changing host < 1437246494 927218 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437246505 576250 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-paecohuyjictgvaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If \00 is 1 then 1-1 overflows? < 1437246862 537285 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437247215 11878 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437248003 777830 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437248159 218130 :Inri_Cristo!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1437248303 165543 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437249532 932454 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437250051 178122 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437250199 804955 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: going home < 1437250471 550623 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1437250471 604966 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1437250539 808213 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437250553 582374 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437250733 576754 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437250733 835574 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 QUIT :Changing host < 1437250733 889835 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437252348 97493 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does your font pass the Dwarf Fortress test? < 1437252350 780677 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/dffonttest.utf8 < 1437252446 602074 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like a test that can end only in failure. < 1437252636 389796 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU Unifont passes the test, as do my Dwarf-Fortress specific fonts, but most of my other fonts fail < 1437252657 712279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1437252808 882748 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan! < 1437252812 60382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Gregor glogbot could still do with a proper time setting, now it's 3-4 minutes late < 1437252812 163672 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1437252835 807735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good evorening < 1437252847 522684 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437252858 247950 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to control which fonts my system falls back to? < 1437252939 982084 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could use a lot of other fonts if I could make them fall back to GNU Unifont < 1437253168 858410 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1437253775 102985 :Inri_Cristo!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437253973 249050 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437253973 352382 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 QUIT :Changing host < 1437253973 406687 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437254442 20182 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even UTF-8 is easier in octal! why is everything easier in octal! < 1437254561 368898 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't need thumbs for them. < 1437254618 696863 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1437254619 866244 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a scandinavian king tried to promote octal < 1437254703 422256 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really! Well he was ahead of his time < 1437254716 531798 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too far ahead, it seems. < 1437255023 24044 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1437255530 975716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :king Octo the Great < 1437255568 965115 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Gr8? < 1437255591 411022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly his reign was cut short by the evil witch Hexa < 1437255676 173692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and after that the people were so fed up that they decimated their remaining followers. < 1437255774 125179 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1437255819 555520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :read all about this in the famous Áttatal epic < 1437256088 308499 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's nice to be / an astral squirrel / nothing to worry / everything's so easy", like the song goes. < 1437256098 370647 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how I got from octal to there. < 1437256140 988246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you went astra(ll)y < 1437256175 110060 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It rhymes better in Finnish, in case anyone was wondering. < 1437256223 392887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1437256250 261188 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there many astral squirrels in finland < 1437256277 576237 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"On kiva olla / astraaliorava / ei huolet paina / kaikki on niin helppoa." Okay, maybe it's not all that.. rhymirric? < 1437256284 827231 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are those glidey ones. < 1437256312 625850 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it's just "flying squirrel" in English. < 1437256399 749159 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode SQUIRREL < 1437256413 67943 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+A754 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER P WITH SQUIRREL TAIL \ UTF-8: ea 9d 94 UTF-16BE: a754 Decimal: Ꝕ \ Ꝕ (ꝕ) \ Lowercase: U+A755 \ Category: Lu (Letter, Uppercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+A755 LATIN SMALL LETTER P WITH SQUIRREL TAIL \ UTF-8: ea 9d 95 UTF-16BE: a755 Decimal: ꝕ \ ꝕ (Ꝕ) \ Uppercase: U+A754 \ Category: Ll (Le < 1437256444 433958 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unicode SQUIRREL | grep SQUIRREL < 1437256445 666168 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+A754 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER P WITH SQUIRREL TAIL \ U+A755 LATIN SMALL LETTER P WITH SQUIRREL TAIL < 1437256453 57698 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't look good < 1437256466 263475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are those at least astral characters < 1437256471 878082 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1437256474 415088 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too few digits. < 1437256474 971305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1437256485 632414 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that pronounced as "squippel"? < 1437256500 188467 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which, I think, has something to do with the legal term 'estoppel'. < 1437256644 515438 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idea: UTF-24 < 1437256681 946251 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that was proposed, with the obvious semantics. < 1437256724 910722 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody seems to want the odd number of bytes. < 1437256772 531639 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly because it would be more wasteful (or at least no better) than UTF-8 for the vast majority of scripts for storage/transfer, and it's awkward wrt. alignment for in-memory use. < 1437256877 71965 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well maybe we should assign some code points to U10000000 and tell the people who use UTF-16 to go fuck themselves < 1437256877 282268 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be most efficient for emoji, though < 1437256901 724445 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no U10000000, though. < 1437256912 792060 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet < 1437256925 370822 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but UTF-8 could encode it < 1437256939 357461 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's really arguable, and per my definition, no, it couldn't. < 1437256948 396932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The obvious extension of UTF-8 could. < 1437256959 810492 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1437257037 992416 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And old versions of.) < 1437257235 575339 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1437257411 257924 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :` xxd -rp <<<'f9b0b0b0b00a' < 1437257411 965852 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1437257419 438474 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` xxd -rp <<<'f9b0b0b0b00a' < 1437257420 162852 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437257455 828552 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` xxd -v < 1437257456 534690 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xxd V1.10 27oct98 by Juergen Weigert < 1437257565 7439 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` xxd -r -p <<<'f9b0b0b0b00a' < 1437257565 658914 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1437257589 499269 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that did not do what it does on my computer < 1437257630 672987 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My client just fell back to [U+00E2 LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH CIRCUMFLEX] [U+20AC EURO SIGN] [U+2039 SINGLE LEFT-POINTING ANGLE QUOTATION MARK] [U+00F9 LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH GRAVE] [U+00B0 DEGREE SIGN] [U+00B0 DEGREE SIGN] [U+00B0 DEGREE SIGN] [U+00B0 DEGREE SIGN] for it. < 1437257661 455878 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a � < 1437257665 826069 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, that's not a simple fallback (I was looking at the B0's), it's something more complicated. < 1437257683 818782 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` xxd -r -p <<<'f90a' < 1437257684 513009 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1437257689 109445 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF < 1437257733 773472 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it has something to do with HackEgo's output processing. < 1437257754 745630 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not quite a full pass-through, although I think it was reasonably "raw". < 1437257787 764823 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` xxd -r -p <<<'C00a' < 1437257788 474709 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1437257807 237651 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` xxd -r -p <<<'ff0a' < 1437257808 52294 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1437257833 766084 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` xxd -r -p <<<'C2A00a' < 1437257834 452558 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​  < 1437257838 803054 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, of course: it's probably something related to the prefixing of the zero-width whitespace when the output starts with something that could be a command character. < 1437257839 702775 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` xxd -r -p <<<'C2A50a' < 1437257840 316278 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¥ < 1437257859 667716 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so it does modern utf-8 correctly < 1437257891 984303 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does those other things "correctly" too, I think; it's just that it puts in front a UTF-8 thing. < 1437257939 861305 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` xxd -r -p <<<'D6A50a' < 1437257940 507875 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​֥ < 1437257945 450569 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` xxd -r -p <<<'D6650a' < 1437257946 155402 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​e < 1437257960 786832 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` xxd -r -p <<<'D6B50a' < 1437257961 590686 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ֵ < 1437257983 836365 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHA < 1437258016 747153 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The output is a bit confusing in my client, because if it sees something it doesn't like as UTF-8, it decodes the zero-width space too as ISO-8859-15. But I'd wager the actual bytes would be "all right". < 1437258032 688819 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, if anything in the line doesn't parse as UTF-8 it does something else < 1437258069 34177 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :たとえばこのメセージ < 1437258077 251307 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I think it's your client doing that. < 1437258121 952094 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` xxd -r -p <<<'D90a' >testend < 1437258124 406418 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437258134 531304 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my raw(ish) logs, the last two HackEgo outputs are e2 80 8b d6 65 and e2 80 8b d6 b5, which is exactly what you asked for. < 1437258141 73884 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the e2 80 8b prefix. < 1437258149 142834 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, and not including that very newest one. < 1437258153 918191 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat <<<'たとえばこのメセージ' >testbegin < 1437258155 932529 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437258161 747551 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now: < 1437258173 1001 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat testbegin < 1437258173 637961 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​たとえばこのメセージ < 1437258178 712805 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat testbegin testend < 1437258180 485040 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​たとえばこのメセージ \ < 1437258254 448563 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok never mind, it is my client, and my client is super dumb < 1437258278 432311 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat testend testbegin < 1437258279 80586 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ たとえばこのメセージ < 1437258343 256739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well we all have irssi in this conversation. < 1437258364 194319 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi's configurable, though. < 1437258367 215259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mine has recode_fallback = cp1252 < 1437258396 476655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i was recommended when i configured it to do utf-8 properly < 1437258412 264246 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to have something more custom, when recode was an external script and not built in, but I have that now too. < 1437258420 139540 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437258452 495243 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't know what irssi does by default, but that;s what I have < 1437258727 68159 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` xxd -r -p <<<'E080b1' >testend < 1437258729 88344 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437258731 365679 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` xxd -r -p <<<'E080b1' < 1437258732 43266 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1437258756 672227 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm overlong encodings are out too? Awww.... < 1437258843 827561 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall that being arguably a security thing. < 1437258859 295549 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although maybe it's kind of lame. < 1437258866 127223 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1437258899 497974 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's really more about having raw comparisons etc. work. < 1437258908 742992 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that was supposed to be a 1 that unnacceptably took 3 bytes < 1437258949 39382 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :raw comparisons don't even close to work in unicdoe anyway < 1437259002 203222 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they would be closer to working if every codepoint had only one encoding < 1437259021 144499 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would allow you to write arbitrarily large twitter messages < 1437259026 707468 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what the normalization forms are for. < 1437259089 76701 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Does twitter really count characters? < 1437259095 528032 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does. < 1437259120 808126 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, if x and y are canonical equivalents, then their NFC and NFD forms have the exact same representations; if they are compatibility equivalents, then the same applies to NFKC and NFKD. < 1437259193 848281 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ☺☻♥♦♣♠•◘○◙♂♀♪♫☼ < 1437259200 841080 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1437259233 387601 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And anyway, every *codepoint* does have only one encoding, at least in all encoding schemes I know of. < 1437259243 248901 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never found out what DF2 uses the musical notes for < 1437259266 136330 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Armor stands and cabinets < 1437259402 539421 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, no. A cabinet is capital Pi < 1437259423 138414 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the single note is a ladle < 1437259515 738253 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that I have ever seen a ladle in DF < 1437259552 721941 :Inri_Cristo!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1437259605 326727 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1437259639 841183 :Inri_Cristo!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Client Quit < 1437259669 670480 :Inri_Cristo!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1437259683 208318 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Killed (leguin.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services)) < 1437259683 262720 :Inri_Cristo!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer NICK :h0rsep0wer < 1437260225 338524 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437260296 220067 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1437260349 568544 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437260453 847163 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1437260755 762777 :hippopotamos!~schizolob@187.55.224.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437260794 110540 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437261690 256671 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would the combined encoding be called UTF-8-CP-1252? < 1437261737 355487 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or WTF-1252 < 1437261800 779423 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/utf8guide.utf8 < 1437261898 85681 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF-16: encode all code points with surrogates < 1437262081 877332 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF-64: encode all code points with surrogates, then encode the surrogates with surrogates, and so on until evey code point has 64 bits < 1437262115 711963 :hippopotamos!~schizolob@187.55.224.90 PART :#esoteric < 1437262139 629396 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437262453 698110 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437262573 276079 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1437263301 92873 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1437264336 666622 :oren!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1437264432 557794 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1437264946 865684 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437265502 284445 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: This is me, signing off. Probably rebooting or something. < 1437265792 189540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: nioj/ < 1437266120 117531 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437267610 983283 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437268755 634448 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-37-112.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1437268797 926958 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-37-112.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1437268797 981326 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437269529 640644 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The aio_fsync() function shall asynchronously perform a file synchronization operation, < 1437269533 724282 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTFFFFFF < 1437269653 309161 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so it actually makes sense, but that first line is ummmmmmm < 1437269750 852579 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay for async sync < 1437269940 599100 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically it queues up a fsync() call to happen after everything else on the fd has finished < 1437269979 591925 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fsync is actually sort of like a flush < 1437269992 492016 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea, I was just poking some fun at the mind-bending terminology in that realm < 1437270036 824073 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the POSIX people... they can't speak plainly to save their lives < 1437270060 903635 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't encode all code points with surrogates. Surrogate pairs only have 10 bits of information, but a Unicode character is 11 bits. < 1437270083 294802 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You assume they want to, and POSIX isn't a huge meta-joke about the ridiculousness of stretching unix metaphors for 40 years < 1437270102 277289 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the most significant bit is 1, you use a surrogate pair, and the fact that you're using a surrogate pair indicates that the most significant bit is 1. < 1437270121 50130 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the most significant bit is 0, you don't use a surrogate pair. < 1437270155 514002 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right < 1437270168 843590 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again... < 1437270241 369813 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the high surrogate 0xD800 corresponds to the code points starting with 0x010000, the high surrogate 0xD801 corresponds to the code points starting with 0x010400, and so on... < 1437270300 61265 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that by extrapolating, you'd end up saying that the high surrogate 0xD7C0 corresponds to the code points starting with 0x000000. < 1437270309 635578 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, 0xD7C0 isn't actually a high surrogate. < 1437270318 338822 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm it seems that 0x10000 is encoded with D*01 < 1437270321 634298 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm it seems that 0x10000 is encoded with D801 < 1437270342 921433 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you're encoding *everything* using surrogates, then using 0xD7C0 as a surrogate is no problem. < 1437270358 517301 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, no wait read that wrong < 1437270388 882313 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Hmm, well what is D7C0 < 1437270409 540403 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ퟀ < 1437270410 351076 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+D7C0 HANGUL JUNGSEONG I-YE] < 1437270426 735833 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what a jungseong is. Or what a i-ye is. < 1437270432 109866 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do know what seuta keulaepeuteu is. < 1437270443 331024 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. that isn;t even in GNU unifont < 1437270464 301181 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://translate.google.com/#ko/en/%EC%8A%A4%ED%83%80%20%ED%81%AC%EB%9E%98%ED%94%84%ED%8A%B8 < 1437270544 742568 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's literally hangulized "starcraft" < 1437270656 741896 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode D7FF < 1437270657 533378 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​퟿ < 1437270662 164247 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode D7FE < 1437270663 69085 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​퟾ < 1437270715 196330 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode $(unicode D7FF) < 1437270716 541225 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+D7FF - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: ed 9f bf UTF-16BE: d7ff Decimal: ퟿ \ ퟿ (퟿) \ Uppercase: U+D7FF \ Category: Cn (Other, Not Assigned) < 1437270738 365526 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode $(unicode D800) < 1437270739 629373 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+D800 \ UTF-8: ed a0 80 UTF-16BE: d800 Decimal: � \ \ Category: Cs (Other, Surrogate) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) < 1437270772 953755 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So "unicode" happily produced an illegal character which "unidecode" then happily decoded. < 1437270791 95563 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a... FUCKING CONSPIRACY, FUCK THIS SHIT. < 1437270810 196728 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/FUCKING CONSPIRACY/shared bug thanks to shared codebase/ < 1437270833 572655 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HOPE THOSE PROGRAMS ROT IN PRISON FOR THE REST OF THey, everyone. How's it going? < 1437270858 296989 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :about the same. I made one tab too many, and now firefox hates me. < 1437270871 384519 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Private consumption is legal, like cannabis in Amsterdam. < 1437270896 955540 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend pkilling firefox first and asking questions later < 1437270964 259452 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1437271007 612549 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now adding this to the quote database: "I recommend [...]killing [...] first and asking questions later" —oren < 1437271037 23983 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1437271090 722654 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unicode 898989 < 1437271091 894464 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437271109 883023 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unicode D8FF < 1437271110 602357 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1437271271 30776 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unicode FFEF < 1437271271 912340 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​￯ < 1437271280 326620 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unicode FFFE < 1437271281 350039 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​￾ < 1437271287 895802 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unicode FEFF < 1437271288 773230 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1437271322 345924 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode $(unicode FEFF) < 1437271323 417159 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+FEFF ZERO WIDTH NO-BREAK SPACE] < 1437271331 842482 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode $(unicode FFFF) < 1437271333 417221 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+FFFF - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: ef bf bf UTF-16BE: ffff Decimal: ￿ \ ￿ (￿) \ Uppercase: U+FFFF \ Category: Cn (Other, Not Assigned) < 1437271338 232675 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode $(unicode FFFE) < 1437271339 577266 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+FFFE - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: ef bf be UTF-16BE: fffe Decimal: ￾ \ ￾ (￾) \ Uppercase: U+FFFE \ Category: Cn (Other, Not Assigned) < 1437271368 717867 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good old zwinibisp. < 1437271969 864088 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zwinibisp is the fuck UTF-16 character, cousin to nibisp, the fuck css character. < 1437272116 77815 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If U+FEFF is ZWNBSP, then presumably U+FFFE is BSPZWN. < 1437272126 48080 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Break Space Zero-Width No-. < 1437272400 373767 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode Ð < 1437272401 129776 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+00D0 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER ETH] < 1437272624 599649 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` xxd -p -r <<<'A0a0a0a0a0a0a0a0a0aae0a' < 1437272625 299579 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1437272686 131979 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode   < 1437272687 91552 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+00A0 NO-BREAK SPACE] < 1437272797 216325 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` xxd -p -r <<<'aaaaaaaaa' < 1437272797 879187 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1437272820 510227 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that;s hilarious. ª is aa < 1437277234 684546 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-paecohuyjictgvaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 🔰👙🎩📜💬💭 < 1437277235 938683 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F530 JAPANESE SYMBOL FOR BEGINNER \ UTF-8: f0 9f 94 b0 UTF-16BE: d83ddd30 Decimal: 🔰 \ 🔰 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F459 BIKINI \ UTF-8: f0 9f 91 99 UTF-16BE: d83ddc59 Decimal: 👙 \ 👙 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F3A9 TOP HAT \ UTF-8: f0 9f 8e < 1437277570 647432 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437277970 119292 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437278028 496650 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hrvkbhfugadwckqh QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1437278628 192983 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"JAPANESE SYMBOL FOR BEGINNER"? < 1437278644 502021 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 🔰👙🎩📜💬💭 < 1437278645 874199 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F530 JAPANESE SYMBOL FOR BEGINNER \ UTF-8: f0 9f 94 b0 UTF-16BE: d83ddd30 Decimal: 🔰 \ 🔰 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F459 BIKINI \ UTF-8: f0 9f 91 99 UTF-16BE: d83ddc59 Decimal: 👙 \ 👙 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F3A9 TOP HAT \ UTF-8: f0 9f 8e < 1437278683 788252 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode $(unicode FEFF) < 1437278684 855388 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+FEFF ZERO WIDTH NO-BREAK SPACE] < 1437278701 689298 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 🔰 < 1437278702 885444 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F530 JAPANESE SYMBOL FOR BEGINNER \ UTF-8: f0 9f 94 b0 UTF-16BE: d83ddd30 Decimal: 🔰 \ 🔰 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1437278713 762654 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode 🔰 < 1437278715 98491 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F530 JAPANESE SYMBOL FOR BEGINNER \ UTF-8: f0 9f 94 b0 UTF-16BE: d83ddd30 Decimal: 🔰 \ 🔰 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1437278718 445129 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode F < 1437278719 485111 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0046 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER F] < 1437278738 84590 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How come it's much more verbose for the JAPANESE SYMBOL FOR BEGINNER than for the F? < 1437279175 651523 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/unidecode < 1437279176 334813 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ import os, sys \ import unicodedata \ s = u" ".join("[U+{0:04X} {1}]".format(ord(c), unicodedata.name(c, "DUNNO")) for c in " ".join(sys.argv[1:]).decode("utf-8")).encode("utf-8") \ if u"DUNNO" in s: \ os.execvp("multicode", ["multicode"] + sys.argv[1:]) \ else: \ print s < 1437279190 517636 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Backwards compatibility reasons < 1437282192 833818 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/ansi.htm < 1437282366 271358 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I can make all my HTML look like on a terminal. < 1437282409 468157 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/my.css < 1437282548 69039 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha nice < 1437282557 630412 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437282625 432219 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437282661 226660 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1437282661 280846 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1437282920 930216 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you can write in the middle of a line on a terminal... < 1437283022 152181 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, so imagine it's a super advanced terminal from a new golden age of terminating < 1437283083 448943 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other words, curses was invented < 1437283200 453902 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, curses and modern temrinals simply cannot write text halfway down between lines < 1437283263 865333 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, no lol I misunderstood < 1437283437 221521 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :although xterm might. xterm has a ton of features that don't exist on other terminals < 1437283527 814188 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the color scheme you use? < 1437283544 917203 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that red is rather dark < 1437283582 239974 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the CGA colors < 1437283602 391764 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmh i see < 1437283611 708075 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :bright colors are typically done using ^[[1,31m etc < 1437283692 630867 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mybe I'll change the colors to what my terminal is set to < 1437283903 434946 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437284590 477119 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437284782 706886 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437284782 953328 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 QUIT :Changing host < 1437284783 7621 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437287501 576401 :aretecode!~aretecode@173.192.170.114-static.reverse.softlayer.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437287534 116057 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437287839 11556 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1437288775 607016 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437288991 209140 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ironically it takes a lot of CSS to simulate the appearance of a terminal < 1437289056 372975 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437289067 638383 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not very ironic < 1437289128 993337 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's like you have to reduce a lot of margins, padding and all that bullshit to zero to achive the right appearence < 1437289331 675569 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1437289352 604886 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1437289548 691600 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437289684 904984 :password2_!~password@197.76.134.245 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437290410 565908 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437290411 48283 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437290780 858225 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Phase14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43560&oldid=43508 5* 03Phase 5* (-4) 10language got renamed < 1437290821 560959 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437294968 485519 :aretecode!~aretecode@S01061859339e5f51.cc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437295240 166586 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437295241 12364 :password2_!~password@197.76.134.245 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437295989 702462 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437295989 801597 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 QUIT :Changing host < 1437295989 856050 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437296023 424172 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1437296079 684986 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got some line-arty web stuff in http://zem.fi/rfk86/ < 1437296090 649862 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although some browsers had trouble with it, so it might not be quite kosher. < 1437296217 770433 :password2_!~password@197.76.131.43 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437297386 193558 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: firefox doesn't like the ... it prefers to have in the html header. < 1437297509 196832 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm, wait... < 1437297619 728878 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should that be application/xhtml+xml instead? But regardless, the XML processing instruction at the beginning is ignored by firefox. < 1437297863 701320 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437298189 581203 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437298267 367890 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437298267 527622 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 QUIT :Changing host < 1437298267 582009 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437298270 779534 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-media-types/#compatGuidelines ... the first guideline is: "DO NOT include XML processing instructions NOR the XML declaration." < 1437298346 807734 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically the browser is free to interpret the content as HTML (not XML) as long as the content type is text/html. < 1437299278 1262 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc the xhtml+xml content type is so misused it's usually treated as text/html anyway < 1437299576 548703 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in that case, the browser should at least try to treat it as xml first. < 1437299622 422701 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might auto-detect on contents, but on the web, stuff marked as xml usually isn't < 1437299898 196819 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's if you include their (alleged) schemata. < 1437300185 433049 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437300590 821989 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well, firefox does trust the application/xhtml+xml, and refuses to display pages with xml syntax errors (test: http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/l.xhtml vs. http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/l.html) < 1437300646 372840 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I also checked that it uses the content-type as provided by the server.) < 1437300738 581397 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefox increased its faith in the content-type after a string of polyglot file exploits, I think < 1437300797 571565 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. my "firefox" is an iceweasel 38.1.0. < 1437300832 743017 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would've expected that to break lots of stuff, but looks like Chrome also trusts the xhtml content-type < 1437300896 364112 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's ok, all web browsing animals are welcome in the religion of safe file interpretation < 1437301487 781352 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote web < 1437301489 783709 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :62) Where's the link to the log? THERE'S NO LOG. YOUR REQUEST IS SUSPICIOUS AND HAS BEEN LOGGED. \ 120) cpressey, oh go to zzo's website. He is NIH AnMaster, really? I was strongly under the impression that zzo was invented here. \ 163) "* There is no scientifically-justifiable reason to ex < 1437303316 325972 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT : < 1437303324 605610 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1437304481 225839 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437305515 806164 :password2_!~password@197.76.131.43 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437305670 184489 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437305928 392400 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nih < 1437305929 171748 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nih? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1437305939 95880 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? NIH < 1437305939 936881 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NIH? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1437305974 696074 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn NIH was /not/ invented by Taneb. < 1437305977 674764 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'nih': NIH was /not/ invented by Taneb. < 1437306395 524046 :password2_!~password@197.76.141.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437306869 410018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1437307662 634188 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :𝘯𝘰𝘵 - hmm < 1437307788 400714 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't work nicely with screen/irssi... < 1437307802 668130 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so? < 1437307848 942830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because it's monospace? < 1437307881 845562 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it comes out as ��� when I try to copy it from the xterm to something with a proper font... < 1437307921 455330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah i don't have that problem (putty - tmux - irssi) < 1437307968 812093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course i originally changed to tmux because someon said it had better utf-8 support < 1437307973 621920 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*someone < 1437308014 869942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it wasn't a big deal since i had only been trying screen for a few hours too) < 1437308174 564531 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably wouldn't be a big deal to switch for me either... < 1437308234 759200 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already have escape ^B^B in my .screenrc for an unrelated reason < 1437308239 361294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1437308249 473252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, two ^B's < 1437308305 53580 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I use C-a to jump to the start of the line in the shell) < 1437308320 919 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey me too! well in irssi. < 1437308344 688448 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I do that in irssi, too. < 1437308391 698724 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the first ^B is the escape command; the second is what you type afterwards to send a raw ^B. < 1437308419 275586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. same as me then. < 1437308425 34641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and the tmux default.) < 1437308440 104339 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you nest screens very deeply (my brain cannot handle this...) it would make sense to use different control sequences for these to avoid the exponential blowup) < 1437308461 381796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :never done any nesting afair < 1437308471 53631 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cannot even deal with two levels of parentheses ;) < 1437308488 920714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish < 1437308549 985374 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the occasional accident where I attach to a screen inside a screen. I fix that as soon as I notice. < 1437308631 464239 :password2_!~password@197.76.141.55 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1437308781 860702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmux has an environment variable to prevent that. < 1437308791 772696 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you can unset it if you really want to.) < 1437308832 168939 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :screen / ssh / screen <-- ssh would have to transfer that environment variable then < 1437308869 85452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1437308943 473817 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437309066 813592 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit the neighbors have forgotten to give the dog whatever it is that keeps it from barking. < 1437309250 360463 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it's always the little things... in screen, trying to switch to a non-existant session briefly displays the active sessions... which is great since I've disabled the status line. < 1437309317 448971 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wouldn't know about that, he still has a status line. < 1437309607 37123 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :screen also does something to guard, and is equally confused by SSH. < 1437309629 510621 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ screen -x < 1437309629 602599 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Attaching from inside of screen? < 1437309646 797774 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do nested screens semi-regularly, but only up to two levels. < 1437309655 437702 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :screen guards against attaching to its own session inside the same screen (to some extent) but not against merely running screen inside screen. < 1437309663 465138 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ime < 1437309665 450503 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And haven't bothered to remap -- the ^a-a isn't that bad at that stage. < 1437309677 96585 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is true. < 1437309806 936214 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1437309831 685080 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny, another thing I immediately looked for was the 'blank window' option (ESC - in screen) < 1437309865 177727 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I miss the ESC ^D alias for detail (ESC d) < 1437310019 669733 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to use screen's lock thing, but it made me worry about how safe it is to lock a Linux virtual console with it. < 1437310143 600084 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is slightly disturbed that you can easily write unsafeCoerce in GHCi with type families in Safe mode < 1437310158 757818 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :again? < 1437310171 484008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only GHCi, mind you. < 1437310197 693982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't enforce type family coherence when you redefine instances < 1437310215 942010 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1437310238 387837 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then. that's nasty but not immediately worrysome for lambdabot :) < 1437310282 194900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also doesn't enforce it when loading two modules simultaneously, which is how i discovered it. < 1437310285 482018 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"worrisome". hmm, a weird word. < 1437310332 162702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, it still religiously prevents type family overlap reaching an actual module. < 1437310332 587229 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the usual diamond thing? the one that also allows access to incoherent instances? < 1437310347 311233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. i've been recently experimenting with both. < 1437310373 263615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the incoherent instances seem to be safe because you cannot deduce a type equality from them. < 1437310380 125606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even with functional dependencies. < 1437310392 968648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :type families, however, are "globally" checked. < 1437310405 276790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the globally doesn't include the GHCi prompt itself. < 1437310419 169780 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, good... mostly. < 1437310440 719886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's the wontfix ticket i found https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/7102 < 1437310530 781050 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should add a comment. < 1437310608 615295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should check if the Safe haskell docs mention this first. < 1437310801 410419 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the same logic... why doesn't ghci allow redeclaring class instances? ;-) < 1437310814 860946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't? < 1437310830 257559 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude> instance Show Char ... Duplicate instance declarations: ... < 1437310856 541192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm right. < 1437310941 941010 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not so surprised by the lack of a global coherence check, but the fact that newly defined type instances can replace previous ones (hmm, what happens in case of an overlap?), that I do find surprising. < 1437310956 277892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially given the comment spj added in that ticket. sounds like a feature request. < 1437310983 997949 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, it does complain about overlaps. hmm hmm. < 1437310993 621240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the comment says it only happens with identical left sides < 1437311009 729983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, you might want that for instances too. < 1437311043 705651 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW, I don't. < 1437311143 811609 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it doesn't help if it's a class defined on the prompt either, although the error then happens only on use. < 1437311168 904674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: well i guess you don't do incremental definitions on the ghci prompt then < 1437311203 514583 :password2_!~password@197.76.141.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437311211 236850 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and I guess what you're doing is basically this: http://sprunge.us/LOeQ < 1437311252 569015 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hmm, copied a from line, type instance F a b a should be type instance F a b = a < 1437311261 34899 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437311302 466509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: a bit simpler than that, i had from :: a -> T a b and to :: T a b -> b < 1437311375 35298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose i could have defined uc directly instead of using to < 1437311428 488738 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I thought I needed the extra argument to get around non-injectivity. < 1437311431 80963 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good afternoily < 1437311479 109453 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that was wrong. Odd, but perhaps necessary to make phantom types and the like work. < 1437311515 235287 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-222-167.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1437311542 625950 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-222-167.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: OS upgrade < 1437311614 838860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's similar to how class instances work; you don't get an ambiguity error if there's an instance with an _actual_ type variable. < 1437313703 809749 :password2_!~password@197.76.141.55 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437314532 956898 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1437314547 991888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ooh, i'm partly mistaken about this, i didn't check loading two modules separately with -XSafe set in ghci... < 1437314555 932714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it actually _does_ check then. < 1437314581 633598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not without -XSafe, and not with explicit instances at the prompt. < 1437314589 961454 :password2_!~password@197.76.135.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437314600 768701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that makes this much less disturbing, i think. < 1437314603 905818 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellœrjan! < 1437314928 274996 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In CSS, how can I set the width of an element based on the font's width? < 1437315062 933426 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I got it. I'll measure the width of some and then divide by the number of characters < 1437315074 797273 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :jshaxxxors < 1437315126 224529 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437315145 159586 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437315160 224142 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437315478 369277 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a zeroth generation BASIC dialect once, but it isnt turing complete... < 1437315519 418590 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what I'm trying to do is create a turing complete language without conditionals < 1437315520 179743 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool. BASIC < 1437315556 69740 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can simulate conditionals with certain strings of oeprators < 1437315566 37915 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a minute, thought this was in a different channel and was going to ask "Why would you want to do that?" < 1437315570 402116 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait... < 1437315576 446996 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: what do you mean? < 1437315625 107746 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like in C, i += 3*(x==y) adds 3 to i only if x == y. < 1437315649 576663 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had that idea < 1437315658 972970 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The channel where "Why would you want to do that?" is not a legitimate question | Sir Fungellot does not fnord. | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/ < 1437315660 995074 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :where x==y would be 0 if they werent equal and 1 if they were < 1437315670 224265 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... < 1437315671 55550 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now imagine i is actually the instruction pointer < 1437315676 493020 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTH < 1437315689 454019 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg... < 1437315700 203615 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... conditionally... < 1437315703 998849 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah... < 1437315710 258546 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk... < 1437315717 170981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heddwch: hth < 1437315752 880566 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth? < 1437315775 841991 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope that helps, hth < 1437315794 259729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :` < 1437315796 682608 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh lol =p Yea, like I said, I thought it was in a different channel for a moment < 1437315796 736941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1437315800 997318 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1437315805 937247 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1437315805 991547 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1437315811 271555 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is part of the english dalect that we have on this channel < 1437315822 301064 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*dialect < 1437315828 500359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel's dialect is such a scow < 1437315849 180498 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? scow < 1437315849 808672 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1437315868 18637 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow means something bad or something < 1437315869 993452 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloddwch. you should take a glance at the PDF available in the /topic. it shall clarify some matters. < 1437315896 785439 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In regulat english it means a boat of some sort < 1437315958 425688 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1437315960 213307 :password2_!~password@197.76.135.104 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437315966 212067 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Yea, that definition I'm used to < 1437315982 881189 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oren < 1437315983 612651 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren is a Canadian esolanger who would like to obliterate time zones so that he can talk to his father who lives in the same house. He'll orobablu get the hang of toycj tuping soon. < 1437316012 277854 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote oren < 1437316012 332250 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. Are you typing with your feet? < 1437316017 666326 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote orin < 1437316017 772123 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e says: What, unsafeCoerce# is kind-preserving? how boring :/ < 1437316025 262035 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :168 pages < 1437316030 29828 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, nice meeting you folks < 1437316042 234197 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote Oren < 1437316042 288476 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. Whoa. < 1437316044 327815 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 PART #esoteric :"No." < 1437316050 588702 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote oren < 1437316051 269309 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1226) when i was a kid it used to snow on christmas eve. what is this "freezing rain", "sleet" crap? yeah seriously, who is evn in charge anymore? apparently not santa claus Santa Claus is dead by now. \ 1227) <{\[oren]|}> zzo38:it will cause problems by < 1437316052 467539 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1437316055 667957 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how come, no? < 1437316070 91742 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell heddwch We're still waiting for you. < 1437316070 334062 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1437316076 93405 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1227 < 1437316076 713840 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1227) <{\[oren]|}> zzo38:it will cause problems by being hilarious < 1437316094 652758 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fungot. quote 1227. that one was something... < 1437316095 114852 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well, that works too. :-p so, i think i am wrong please don't ask me where fnord come up with < 1437316108 180009 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1228 < 1437316108 867705 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1228) (I need to stop talking about my habits so much (Uh I'm doing it again, STOP! (Uh I give up. (Really, I should stop doing this all the time. (AAARGH!))))) < 1437316115 907355 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I won't. too terrifying. < 1437316116 676081 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i thougth you mean, the terminally curious may want to take highschool students and turn them into c++. its object system is used actively? i'm reading fnord, and *very fnord such scalar values still exist in iso fnord, though < 1437316160 714825 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: uuuuh... I don't think it's legal anywhere to turn highschool students to C++, as much as it may seem desirable at first sight. < 1437316166 140547 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :c++'s object system is massively abused in a lot of organizatinos it seems < 1437316184 648152 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: at least your parentheses matched in that quote < 1437316195 638358 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1229 < 1437316196 272102 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1229) life is overrated. it's only another expendable resource. < 1437316208 849065 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, dark < 1437316213 2681 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1230 < 1437316213 576223 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1230) i guess norway just isn't cold < 1437316221 816163 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shifts uneasily "there was context! oerjean outquoted me!" < 1437316226 569137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1437316226 807780 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 191420Z 27008KT 9999 FEW035TCU SCT045 BKN060 14/10 Q1003 RMK WIND 670FT 29006KT < 1437316229 75018 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/je/j/ < 1437316235 103 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1437316235 851351 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 191400Z 17007KT 15SM FEW008 BKN018 23/21 A2974 RMK SF1SC7 SF TR SLP070 DENSITY ALT 1300FT < 1437316247 23639 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYZ < 1437316247 484723 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 191400Z 25015KT 15SM FEW040 FEW130 27/21 A2978 RMK SC1AC1 SC TR SLP081 DENSITY ALT 2200FT < 1437316253 596493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'm pretty sure that must have applied to my quote too hth < 1437316291 998697 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously. < 1437316337 417298 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: iirc, that quote's context was about M:tG. < 1437316352 415694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: also, do we want to know what iso fnord is < 1437316373 724512 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, no we don't. it's standardized evil in a fnord. < 1437316384 275785 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PURE FUNGOT ESSENCE! < 1437316399 931880 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oh! time for a shower, bike, mahjong, and probably too much food.) < 1437316430 70697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a plan < 1437316438 778436 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: AMYOTROPIC CHICKEN < 1437316507 340521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm Bike is online < 1437316884 221079 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1437316982 513051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tafternooneb < 1437317012 166402 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went and saw Ant Man yesterday evening (it was good) < 1437317063 64473 :password2_!~password@197.76.142.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437317079 968740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks ant man < 1437317080 573536 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, ant man. Thant man. < 1437317155 143709 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1437317165 361157 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to use that. < 1437317291 654985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1437317955 661489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Gah dog! < 1437318766 98433 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Success. now my pages automatically set the width to 80 characters wide < 1437318778 569550 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-222-167.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1437318829 447595 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-222-167.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1437319043 160730 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-222-167.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1437319117 79212 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437319418 299756 :password2_!~password@197.76.142.93 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437320041 606525 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/sizing.js <-- 80 characters < 1437320140 44849 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sets the width of the page to the width of 'HOME' /4 *80 < 1437320167 593661 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :another bright day for noscript < 1437320239 64362 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so long as your font isn't too much more than 10 pixels wide it should look fine < 1437320318 331941 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the default in css is 800 pixels wide < 1437320358 948489 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, in www.orenwatson.be/my.css not css in general < 1437320473 461806 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't that work width = 80em and no javascript at all? < 1437320488 299238 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1437320504 633059 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm I'll try that out. < 1437320588 421751 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs to hava a look at the CSS specification... < 1437320602 623475 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. An em isn't determined by the font it seems. < 1437320686 718980 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather isn't determined CORRECTLY < 1437320708 182933 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there is a ch unit, though it's unclear how universal support for it is < 1437320713 42007 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems if I set font size to say 16px, then 1em=16px < 1437320721 649981 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-values/#font-relative-lengths < 1437320725 261545 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ratehr than being the width < 1437320819 419529 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ch works < 1437320843 975628 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'll leave in the 800px before it incase a browser doesn't support it < 1437321680 173916 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there, no javascript necessary. < 1437322688 817908 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit. border-spacing wasn't set to 0px < 1437322703 387653 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :thst's what was fucking my tables up < 1437322822 544541 :kline!~kline@unaffiliated/kline QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437322849 541890 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :see how much work it takes to to make things look like raw test even though they're html? gawd < 1437322982 937620 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437323078 155342 :miki123211!~Miranda@81.219.203.52 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437323127 585757 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-222-167.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1437323249 886616 :kline!~kline@unaffiliated/kline JOIN :#esoteric < 1437323573 244663 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437323605 804012 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437323708 263982 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1437323811 970590 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437324823 485792 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit my toast is going to become ‼toast‼ < 1437325256 688661 :Inri_Cristo!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1437325387 869791 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :A fine example of dwarven toast < 1437325403 412746 :miki123211!~Miranda@81.219.203.52 QUIT :Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/ < 1437325447 684377 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437325898 787138 :Inri_Cristo!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer NICK :h0rsep0wer < 1437326307 190667 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437326428 108730 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of < 1437326433 465186 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anybody knows nethacks well? < 1437326584 393740 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in nethack the game? cause ais523 knows more about that than most people, i'm sure < 1437326672 78288 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game indeed < 1437326713 496651 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know it pretty well, too. both the how-to-play part and the source code part < 1437326753 665934 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pretty basic question really < 1437326761 416480 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just wondering how much classes matter < 1437326772 907157 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :outside of the starting point and the leveling < 1437326783 521034 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there things you cannot do with each classes < 1437326783 575396 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprisingly little, past the early game < 1437326804 108494 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspected as much when my barbarian was able to learn a spell < 1437326822 727450 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :the skill caps (as in #enhance menu) are different for each class < 1437326852 944457 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using a UI so I'm not sure where the skills are hidden < 1437326864 821843 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and honestly, that is maybe the biggest long-term effect of your choice < 1437326877 663099 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :which UI? < 1437326881 789960 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vulture < 1437326903 757067 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, found it < 1437327013 781605 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently I am playing an orc barbarian because I was like "fuck subtlety" < 1437327020 956841 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wizards did not yield me much luck < 1437327026 761575 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :So let's bash everything < 1437327050 904788 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :melee is a lot easier yeah < 1437327068 469623 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1437327159 7907 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh a peaceful goblin < 1437327164 537996 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I try talking to him < 1437327165 941800 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :He grunts < 1437327173 560912 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd better put my chaotic alignment to profit < 1437327175 805003 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you gobli,n < 1437327327 445272 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host 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:Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437338350 893645 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl NICK :mauris < 1437338446 371499 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437338637 323905 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1437338652 539978 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437339531 548071 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make another octal table for the Z80 < 1437339614 319549 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437339885 777455 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1437340802 394195 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1437340874 385883 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437341145 852019 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1437341286 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error: Connection reset by peer < 1437342457 898233 :|f`-`|f_!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net NICK :|f`-`|f < 1437344078 284873 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 "one" < 1437344079 687530 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Show a0) < 1437344079 741861 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘show_M449821784326138253020622’ < 1437344079 741935 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable ‘a0’ is ambiguous < 1437344132 90603 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437344270 360846 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1437344543 446706 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437344817 398725 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437345038 581615 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437345052 942848 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1437345053 156048 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 192206Z 33005KT 15SM FEW025CB FEW050 SCT150 OVC220 25/23 A2965 RMK CB1SC1AC3CI5 CB TR SC TR SLP040 DENSITY ALT 1600FT < 1437345145 391294 :zzo38!~zzo38_@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1437345171 844550 :zzo38!~zzo38_@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I got my new computer working, I managed to figure out how to fix the location bar in Firefox, I changed the window manager and everything like that < 1437345196 498629 :zzo38!~zzo38_@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOw I need to recover the data from my old hard drives, so I can set up HTTP and gopher servers < 1437345545 222971 :zzo38!~zzo38_@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot figure out how, as these old hard drives are IDE, the new computer is SATA, and the adapter I have won't work either since there are no spare power cables in the computer < 1437345602 647849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1437347197 33875 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't understand why the SATA power cable is so big < 1437347224 416874 :zzo38!~zzo38_@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't quite know either < 1437347237 458897 :zzo38!~zzo38_@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to get a power supply to work without the motherboard? < 1437347240 963576 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/z80machinecode.htm < 1437347273 902829 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to wire together the Green wire and one of the black ones < 1437347305 231377 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That simulates the computers ON switch < 1437347313 909415 :zzo38!~zzo38_@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are several black wires < 1437347323 694078 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :any will do they are all gound < 1437347328 490147 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*round < 1437347333 73119 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ground < 1437347339 460950 :zzo38!~zzo38_@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1437347392 351763 :zzo38!~zzo38_@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This "i3" window manager is much better than the one that came with this computer < 1437347465 782006 :zzo38!~zzo38_@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now what should I use to wire together those wires? < 1437347546 159194 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1437347894 774150 :zzo38!~zzo38_@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did my browser settings reset? < 1437348179 920450 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1437348475 384179 :zzo38!~zzo38_@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437348568 937825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITT oren gets zzo38 to brick his new computer < 1437348577 523601 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437349094 894347 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1437349108 243849 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1437349120 980014 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...? < 1437349136 957659 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicide/Unicide is when people can't read your suicide note because they lack the proper font. < 1437349140 392611 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1437349161 647517 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1437349162 673240 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alice/Alice doesn't want to go among mad people. < 1437349169 867605 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`botsnack < 1437349170 363537 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​>:-D < 1437349185 966491 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log bin/botsnack | grep summary: < 1437349189 899672 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: revert \ summary: echo "echo \'>:-D\'" >> bin/botsnack \ summary: echo "#!/bin/sh" > bin/botsnack \ summary: echo "echo >:-D" > bin/botsnack \ summary: echo "echo :-D" > bin/botsnack < 1437349194 614557 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of alise, where's elliott? < 1437349249 637314 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits bin/botsnack < 1437349259 904849 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett oerjan elliott mrhmouse mrhmouse mrhmouse ais523 ais523 elliott FreeFull GreyKnight GreyKnight < 1437349298 815618 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437349322 607516 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use a bent paper clip < 1437349413 750700 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have the same sort of setup with a second PSU powering a drive) < 1437349423 642335 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*had < 1437349439 107377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the last i saw of elliott was a mysterious misclick event on the wiki < 1437349462 503407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was very nicely timed for when i was starting to worry about him < 1437350007 922839 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's elliott's name on the wiki? < 1437350014 991770 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird < 1437350032 875002 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1437350745 843859 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :go team usa! < 1437350974 758431 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CAPILLARY CHICKEN < 1437351319 536109 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1437352472 748390 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-paecohuyjictgvaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 👉👌 < 1437352476 45394 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F449 WHITE RIGHT POINTING BACKHAND INDEX \ UTF-8: f0 9f 91 89 UTF-16BE: d83ddc49 Decimal: 👉 \ 👉 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F44C OK HAND SIGN \ UTF-8: f0 9f 91 8c UTF-16BE: d83ddc4c Decimal: 👌 \ 👌 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1437353359 141379 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, no sexual emojery! < 1437354525 178706 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437354807 144309 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437355260 119461 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437355416 6546 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: [ < 1437355431 190367 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1437357875 351287 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437358335 563340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1437358363 3480 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437360564 937224 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437363738 783957 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1437367434 436585 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1437367987 23265 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437368011 388335 :Wallacoloo!~colin@c-73-53-49-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1437368116 103007 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437368368 801309 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bqujsghyhsakzjtj QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1437368432 716011 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gjvqbdcofjikvidq QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1437368617 301602 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oytaruxzthikqemm JOIN :#esoteric < 1437368737 772369 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sbylevofclylfboc JOIN :#esoteric < 1437370332 531603 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437370366 380791 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437370384 734738 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ujdrrjhfgugrjejg QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1437370461 6995 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437370745 402586 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1437370749 411438 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDream < 1437371435 701762 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqgwszpnjvifrggv JOIN :#esoteric < 1437371747 559013 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437372016 578083 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1437372695 674711 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437372739 521607 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me JOIN :#esoteric < 1437374608 950783 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION good morning < 1437375446 567814 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437375521 400229 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437375635 395743 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437375660 882626 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437375715 597809 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437375968 712486 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION Taneb: good morning < 1437376649 905367 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437377306 648645 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sbylevofclylfboc QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437377323 356113 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oytaruxzthikqemm QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437377323 459001 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1437377329 287678 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fagvdnvuaokepcup QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437377392 405986 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqgwszpnjvifrggv QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1437377618 570023 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1437378449 520404 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aqwyegkcbmuhndir JOIN :#esoteric < 1437378660 368863 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437378673 314586 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437378789 571208 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1437378859 314514 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437378974 258332 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437379059 618595 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437379080 365978 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ccwhpmibwxpijsqa JOIN :#esoteric < 1437379108 456684 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-143-158.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1437379245 173797 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1437379304 129844 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ssfemyswgmesuljq JOIN :#esoteric < 1437380202 343603 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hzyibimleiqueflb JOIN :#esoteric < 1437380831 98012 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437381617 506370 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1437382643 141215 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437382689 541328 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1437384089 863340 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1437384102 723943 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally I fixed my computer (except the gopher server) < 1437384129 990994 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to change PHIRC to get it to work with xterm, as well as writing the proper shell-script of it, but now it work. < 1437384159 161695 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: poweroff < 1437384407 541706 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1437384799 918872 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1437384986 99784 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437385285 229966 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord. < 1437385329 645815 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, mroman_ < 1437386085 208680 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437386103 936786 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1437386140 989771 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1437386409 957909 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1437386548 957295 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like what? < 1437386618 845107 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know? < 1437386641 374110 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The PC bold setting in xterm doesn't seems working; how to fix that? < 1437387199 666245 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437387837 596685 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi Taneb < 1437388031 891812 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437388096 798219 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1437388099 174171 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fixed it < 1437388351 107723 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1437388710 527594 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now when I try to make a screenshot with ImageMagick the text in the xterm window is missing < 1437388847 287176 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured out, I need "xwd" to capture the picture and then ImageMagick can convert to PNG format. < 1437389471 764650 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437390675 397794 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437391057 831129 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437391521 806629 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CREDIBLE CHICKEN < 1437391857 982788 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437392126 972193 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437393750 142942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1437393847 234749 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437393875 415687 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437394217 192690 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the screenshot of its working: http://zzo38computer.org/img_17/screenshot.png < 1437394539 903435 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you're using imagemagick anyway: import -window root screenshot.png < 1437394620 947760 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that what you tried in the first place... < 1437394813 739061 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-222-167.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1437394836 25058 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-222-167.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: bullshit < 1437394980 644603 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1437395197 761477 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1437395258 99635 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1437395563 446186 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-222-167.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1437395829 154338 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437395834 115729 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-222-167.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1437396588 303647 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437397834 980462 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1437398543 165076 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a*x + a*y = 0 mod a < 1437398545 881541 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that always hold? < 1437398577 316523 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or more generally < 1437398582 807075 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a*x + y = y mod a < 1437398593 439657 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1437398601 398974 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For integers, I guess. < 1437398603 3880 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :For nonzero a, at least < 1437399084 664002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think zero a works just as well with the right interpretation < 1437399254 647700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a doesn't have to be integer, either. although that only works for addition/subtraction, not multiplication. < 1437399686 910383 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to find all inverses mod p (p prime) < 1437399700 142365 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many extended euclidian algorithm computations do you need to run? < 1437399721 493225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like an inefficient way of finding them, hm < 1437399723 133148 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or in other words: How many times do you need to run the extended euclidean algorithm) < 1437399731 601505 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :none, you just list 0..p-1... < 1437399751 152208 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, the 0 should be excluded. < 1437399753 352310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good, int-e < 1437399764 466699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure that solves his problem. < 1437399768 59125 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1437399774 842712 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... < 1437399781 772592 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you gotta be able to tell what is the inverse of what < 1437399808 465312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, use some dynamic programming i think < 1437399828 723087 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want all the inverses? Can't you just use the first one? < 1437399833 86813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick a number you don't know the inverse of, start computing its powers until you reach one you know. < 1437399864 271566 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be O(p) calculations in all, i think < 1437399892 293789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you start out knowing 1 is its own inverse) < 1437399903 248586 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and p-1 is it's own inverse < 1437399906 769435 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use the baby-step giant-step algorithm to achieve O(sqrt p) < 1437399911 391754 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if a*b = 1 then b*a = 1 as well < 1437399948 144485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: i don't know what you're talking about, but i assume he wants a table of inverses (mod p) < 1437399953 25589 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's probably maximum O( (p-2) / 2 ) < 1437399990 815232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: thinks like -2 and /2 don't count in O() notation < 1437399993 692719 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but since a pair of inverses gives a free other pair of inverses < 1437399996 293687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*things < 1437400001 799285 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woah, you were giving serious answers < 1437400003 535015 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably more around (p - 2) / 4 euclidean algorithms < 1437400031 308151 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are there other shortcuts to inverses? < 1437400031 782245 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the problem is well-defined < 1437400036 412815 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be interested. < 1437400068 857126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: "how to calculate (n, n^-1 (mod p)) for all 0 < n < p?" < 1437400076 842132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1437400087 984400 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_ is still blathering about euclidean algorithms < 1437400093 378399 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah :) < 1437400100 233125 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually you should find a primitive root r and then list pairs (r^-n, r^n). That's exactly one call of the extended euclidean algorithm, but a couple more modular exponentiations. < 1437400107 363329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's not the best algorithm. < 1437400119 423921 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know any other algorithm actually to compute inverses < 1437400122 417245 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :without knowing phi(m) < 1437400129 519658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um how do you find a primitive root they're not predictable. < 1437400140 300900 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that only works for co-primes anyway < 1437400157 159507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you could get them as a consequence of what i suggested, i think. < 1437400167 908198 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are O(p/log p) primitive roots mod p, so just pick elements at random < 1437400170 214621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that also calculates all the inverses < 1437400216 860249 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437400359 59249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1437400365 721495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, phi(m) < 1437400371 24944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is p-1 < 1437400397 691449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could just calculate n^(p-2) for all n directly... < 1437400406 824124 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1437400410 211801 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's a prime, yes. < 1437400415 870348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said it was < 1437400431 225688 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(n doesn't need to be prime) < 1437400489 796529 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437400506 983070 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, O(p log p) multiplications < 1437400509 665986 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you're using eulers theorem < 1437400529 479057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fermat's little theorem < 1437400559 910259 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want all of the inverses, it's even simpler: calculate 1, r, r^2..., r^k=1, then the inverse of r^i is r^(k-i) < 1437400583 947395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: that's what i started suggesting < 1437400596 997910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except i also suggested caching results < 1437400636 566326 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you should also stop if r^k is a number you've already hit < 1437400704 261468 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right. < 1437400707 809841 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1437400737 772195 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless somehow the raw calculation is better than a memory lookup, hm... now we're into other caching issues. < 1437400781 992539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this method is unlikely to preserve cache locality :) < 1437400814 183789 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, if I found a primitive root < 1437400832 693441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, r doesn't have to be a primitive root with my version < 1437400840 999883 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first duplicate will always be 1, since every r generates a subgroup in Z/pZ* < 1437400880 474424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just pick a "random" r that hasn't been found yet < 1437400885 666036 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if p=5, and I pick 4 < 1437400892 356043 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll only get to r^1, r^2 < 1437400898 739947 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :before reaching 1 < 1437400900 319628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. and then you choose another r. < 1437400931 361656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :might need a linked list or something to keep track of what's uncalculated. < 1437400964 988336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep choosing r's until there are none left and you have the whole table. < 1437400970 370356 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately you won't get far with the subsequent r's before hitting a number already seen < 1437400982 388468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's "unfortunate" about that? < 1437400991 574807 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :For each r, you need a new extgcd < 1437401001 213388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...now. < 1437401004 461646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*...no. < 1437401011 841919 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just calculate r^i < 1437401023 412185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with multiplication and modulus < 1437401031 728330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not egcd needed at all. < 1437401067 951837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*no < 1437401099 670868 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you find r^-1 with that? < 1437401157 417237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if (r^k)^-1 = q, then r^-1 = r^(k-1)*q < 1437401232 426178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1437401313 663418 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you pick r not a generator (say r=q^2), then knowing all the powers of r won't help you find q^-1 < 1437401338 131323 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or will it < 1437401345 894732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um r^k is a number you already know q is the inverse of. < 1437401411 230728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :k is the smallest k such that r^k is already in your inverse table < 1437401445 70179 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you find it, you can fill in r ... r^(k-1) using that. < 1437401501 810242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not entirely sure you're actually saving work over calculating all the way up to r^k = 1... < 1437401519 49380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1437401524 375796 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1437401576 937449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps a gcd actually is a good idea here. < 1437401607 129096 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way, you can ensure your table so far is always all the powers of the previous r < 1437401688 83014 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if r=q^a and 1/r=q^b, then 1/q=q^b*q^(a-1) < 1437401732 357071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1437401753 615007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have some mistake there but i'm not sure what you're trying to say < 1437401776 650202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1437401782 494692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :missed the -1 < 1437401800 313389 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well my point is, you don't know the q. < 1437401829 291720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :reconsidering, i guess the question is, can you find a primitive root much faster than the remaining calculation of all its powers? < 1437401916 95154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to say "especially if you don't know the factors of p-1", but if those aren't easy to calculate you don't have a chance to calculate the whole table anyway. < 1437402014 403389 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevermind, I swapped the letters around and got the same identity that you wrote < 1437402048 123037 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Math is difficult < 1437402059 876587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1437402090 323503 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yes, it would work < 1437402357 20512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you keep the known set a subgroup, then after you have found (r^k), you go through the already known table and add _all_ r^i * q where 0 < i < k and q is already known. that way you keep it a subgroup at the next stage. < 1437402430 769468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at least double the set of known numbers at each iteration < 1437402565 678942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i'm pretty sure you could keep track of the order of the numbers as well. < 1437402574 696803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this might need a gcd or two.) < 1437402599 475520 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't look at the channel for half an hour and I have no idea what is going on < 1437402608 949200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not quite sure either. < 1437402611 790762 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like... number theory? < 1437402614 585951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1437402634 515450 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to think of how to compute a complete table of inverses (mod p) < 1437402641 954657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :reasonably efficiently < 1437402702 470717 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :With p prime? < 1437402719 573274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe you cannot track the order of _all_ the elements, but you should be able to keep track of one with the largest order so far, so that at the end you also have a primitive root. < 1437402723 703282 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1437402723 757589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yeah < 1437402759 43044 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, 1's inverse is 1 < 1437402766 839650 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 0 doesn't have an inverse < 1437402770 596892 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last remaining r should be a primitive root < 1437402773 923798 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437402780 250265 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's it for p=2, you can generalise it from there < 1437402790 765339 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437402795 14811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, i don't think this method actually depends on p being prime. or, it might be harder to select all the relatively prime numbers to start with. < 1437402807 884275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: OKAY < 1437402816 354056 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1437402845 402727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: not necessarily. in theory you could have p-1 remaining until the end... < 1437402866 95608 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and end up selecting it as the last r. < 1437402903 81233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can, however, calculate a primitive root by considering the orders of the r's < 1437402930 454290 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or so i think, vaguely. now i need to get shaved -> < 1437403028 12673 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1437403077 666866 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I tell you that I got a haircut the other day? < 1437403094 349606 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My hair is shorter than it's been since 2008 < 1437403132 286722 :rodgort!~rodgort@105.ip-167-114-152.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1437403133 187182 :skarn_!skarn@unaffiliated/skarn QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1437403133 993839 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1437403134 626428 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1437403135 31369 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1437403135 90190 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-paecohuyjictgvaf QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1437403136 145630 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1437403136 361645 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1437403138 143995 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/session JOIN :#esoteric < 1437403145 259015 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/session QUIT :Changing host < 1437403145 313172 :fowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth JOIN :#esoteric < 1437403147 66981 :fowl!fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth QUIT :Changing host < 1437403147 121353 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-nnumjgrniwvwfuyu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437403154 789158 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1437403225 396114 :rodgort!~rodgort@2607:5300:100:200::160d JOIN :#esoteric < 1437403319 821304 :skarn!skarn@unaffiliated/skarn JOIN :#esoteric < 1437403540 314002 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder JOIN :#esoteric < 1437403759 93573 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let inverses p = foldl' add (M.fromList [(1,1)]) [2..p-1] where x×y = x*y`mod`p; add m r | r`M.member`m = m | True = let rs = takeWhile (`M.notMember`m) < 1437403759 186632 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse failed: Parse error: EOF < 1437403759 436142 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ iterate (r×) r; q = r×last rs; qi = m M.! q in M.union m $ M.fromList [ (r, ri×qi) | (r, ri) <- zip rs (reverse rs) ] < 1437403769 63665 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let inverses p = foldl' add (M.fromList [(1,1)]) [2..p-1] where x×y = x*y`mod`p; add m r | r`M.member`m = m | True = let rs = takeWhile (`M.notMember`m) $ iterate (r×) r; q = r×last rs; qi = m M.! q in M.union m $ M.fromList [ (r, ri×qi) | (r, ri) <- zip rs (reverse rs) ] < 1437403770 314637 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1437403824 832420 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> inverses 100003 < 1437403827 689923 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : fromList [(1,1),(2,50002),(3,66669),(4,25001),(5,60002),(6,83336),(7,85717),... < 1437403840 89258 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> inverses 1000003 < 1437403844 152301 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1437404335 653556 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This uses 1-2 multiplications per inverse, but Montgomery had an algorithm that worked for any subset of query numbers with 3 multiplications (and one extgcd) < 1437404680 826867 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-143-158.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1437405224 788635 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it's two multiplications and no extgcds if the set is 1..p-1, and doesn't require any table < 1437405252 738272 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine < 1437405252 792610 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined. < 1437405690 942722 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBL < 1437406297 386345 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-240.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437406812 462753 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437406839 597780 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437407429 244263 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437407685 209275 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437407804 720261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 994 < 1437407805 433682 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 994: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti < 1437407844 630880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh list < 1437408935 907277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not ending well for Belkar in 3,2... < 1437409555 613013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1437409627 488183 :password2!~password@197.77.28.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437409741 223965 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437410579 25854 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1437410579 80181 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1437410909 202254 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437411032 219414 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? olist < 1437411033 15267 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Update notification for the webcomic Order of the Stick. < 1437411043 501475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append olist http://www.giantitp.com/comics/ootslatest.html < 1437411046 375183 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'olist': Update notification for the webcomic Order of the Stick. http://www.giantitp.com/comics/ootslatest.html < 1437411061 573915 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like learn_append might be better as le/rn_append < 1437411170 756122 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You're a piece of code, why don't you watch these websites for us? < 1437411171 193070 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: only 35 google hits for what flapjax? i always get a ripe one. you must be more. < 1437411426 841093 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what flapjax? < 1437411461 80432 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like a web framework. < 1437411471 138700 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Flapjax is a new programming language designed around the demands of modern, client-based Web applications." < 1437411474 144905 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, close-ish. < 1437411535 669431 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Flapjax is easy to learn: it is just a JavaScript framework." < 1437411578 129488 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know that JavaScript frameworks ⊂ programming languages. < 1437412044 771893 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437412189 860979 :password2!~password@197.77.28.128 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437413319 457305 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437413950 268277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many of them aren't. < 1437413958 424040 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flapjax happens to be in the intersection. < 1437415546 693110 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437416001 366553 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437416040 413611 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gshiwkyfdamnuhdp JOIN :#esoteric < 1437416113 410002 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437416204 38995 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1437416973 159928 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to disable mouse wheel on X on Linux? < 1437417079 462943 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Change ZAxisMapping or something like that? < 1437418164 398195 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80e-20.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437418196 151376 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80e-20.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437419186 648133 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBS < 1437419467 641543 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437419912 755889 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1437420366 704633 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437420689 43856 :TieSoul_!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437420877 589980 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437423056 631606 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure Flapjax predates the term "JavaScript framework" < 1437423105 648037 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, it was where I first came across the term reactive programming, before Elm got kinda popular < 1437423315 467580 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suspects that FireFly is not talking about the mail client. < 1437423358 253963 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1437423360 742566 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome/Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1437423383 655154 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: no, the programming language < 1437423400 100436 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/elm-hates-me.png < 1437423422 369577 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :IS IT TOO HARD TO DISPLAY MINIMAL INFORMATION WITHOUT JAVASCRIPT! < 1437423430 389487 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds more like you hate elm hth < 1437423442 121591 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :javascript is the language of the web < 1437423451 173768 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the file name was tongue-in-cheek. < 1437423487 184853 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not. HTML is. < 1437423511 514430 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I say it often enough I will change reality... ah whom am I kidding. < 1437423516 108483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML is just UI. < 1437423522 684825 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML is content. < 1437423529 808592 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you want your software to be just Tk without Tcl? < 1437423533 969968 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But apparently, people don't like content anymore. < 1437423573 709594 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to me like you're the one who's discontent hth < 1437423576 297609 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I don't want my software to be Tcl at all (and I say that despite using gitk) < 1437423586 55182 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I am that. < 1437423611 690002 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Now what are you going to do about it? ) < 1437424805 633304 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437424815 105485 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on < 1437425047 489804 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1437425058 408384 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohi zzo38 < 1437425153 647322 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What weird stuff could I do with OO? < 1437426243 870061 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1437426256 394690 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: O, hello < 1437426268 730705 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: It might depend on some thing < 1437426280 831976 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as? < 1437426287 194683 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an imperative language < 1437426342 384971 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what imperative language? There is many imperative language < 1437426375 954419 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's called WalScript-OO < 1437426384 357883 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a dialect of a language I made called WalScript < 1437426392 979495 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's the root dialect: < 1437426400 841905 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/hppavilion1/WalScript-Alpha < 1437426405 399685 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there are any languages both purely functional and object oriented < 1437426415 236339 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OCaml, I think < 1437426419 827409 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1437426422 956207 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Purely functional? < 1437426426 730540 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1437426441 250209 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most up-to-date functioning WalScript dialect is here: < 1437426466 51217 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/hppavilion1/WalScript-1.0/ < 1437426486 283091 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has better variable assignment and supports libraries written in Python if they're made right < 1437426662 610053 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most advanced one (but as-of-yet unimplemented) is https://github.com/hppavilion1/WalScript-OO/ < 1437426670 770129 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither of those last two have documentation :P < 1437426683 856248 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That last one is the one I'm currently making < 1437426823 537961 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :OCaml has type inference for classes, but it's incomplete < 1437426933 666665 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It counts as purely functional if you don't use refs and make an IO monad, I guess < 1437426954 683800 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd have to write your own do..od macro in camlp4, though < 1437426973 887187 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1437427866 464429 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437428135 886013 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437428201 707335 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who says Haskell isn't object-oriented? < 1437428264 253443 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ten overlapping field names say so. < 1437428268 398681 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A class is simply a type with some accessors. < 1437428269 923031 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, I do not actually know what it means to be object oriented < 1437428309 734824 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, no subtyping or even row polymorphism. OCaml, on the other hand, has recursive classes < 1437428332 648006 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's this about field names saying that Haskell isn't OO? < 1437428344 248273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1437428397 576606 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437428436 805242 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437428446 385689 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good boilynchronized evening < 1437428458 875875 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi boily < 1437428460 332472 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data A = A { foo :: () } < 1437428461 742019 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1437428464 190883 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data B = B { foo :: () } < 1437428464 915552 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:163:12: < 1437428464 969886 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Multiple declarations of ‘foo’ < 1437428465 24313 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Declared at: .L.hs:161:12 < 1437428484 427426 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@refine < 1437428484 481701 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Define what? < 1437428519 543492 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@dodefine < 1437428519 597799 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: undefine define < 1437428527 923991 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@refine oil < 1437428527 978317 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse failed: TemplateHaskell is not enabled < 1437428545 58980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nudefinn < 1437428545 158689 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1437428551 41915 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437428571 296321 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nudefinn, you say? I have something you might like... < 1437428590 346272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you should increase the maximal hamming distance twh < 1437428630 291745 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, it seems like I come across a whole lot more Finns on IRC than, say, Spaniards. < 1437428636 996902 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's Levenshtein distance < 1437428638 566045 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is IRC especially popular in Finland? < 1437428642 988095 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1437428645 258879 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe it is < 1437428645 568181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was invented there < 1437428649 676932 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :public synchronized void hellørjan() { < 1437428652 879271 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@underfine < 1437428652 933616 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined. < 1437428654 983382 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay < 1437428655 715103 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OO < 1437428669 186479 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :System.out.println("hppavhellon[1]"); < 1437428671 912986 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1437428673 112273 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making an OO dialect of my pet programming language < 1437428679 737697 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1437428683 758868 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: your abuses are already bad enough < 1437428705 262154 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: are you a Finn? < 1437428706 751714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Nudefinn, you say? I have something you might like... <-- sauna more... < 1437428711 544207 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1437428719 968761 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm alaskan < 1437428734 655368 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what's your dog's name? < 1437428736 218004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you a mad scientist polar bear < 1437428743 26921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i ask that already < 1437428746 929148 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My dog? < 1437428749 117693 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have not < 1437428753 22451 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I am not < 1437428758 494388 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a mad scientist Walrus < 1437428769 583293 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My dogs are named Fling and Mello < 1437428771 408312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. stay away from the polar bear, then. < 1437428774 256782 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact... < 1437428782 694619 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, you're not that other person I was thinking you were. < 1437428810 499885 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not Finnish, though my family does hail from Norway < 1437428820 227569 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fungot. < 1437428820 333060 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: night all i guess < 1437428829 184618 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: do you realize what you just unleashed? < 1437428840 595407 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1437428841 15674 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1437428845 537297 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did I just do? < 1437428856 718213 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote I'm neither < 1437428859 790623 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :590) I'm neither Norwegian nor Finnish I don't fit in your quaint little categories < 1437428861 762496 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437428867 664822 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :T_T < 1437428877 186491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, why doesn't tvtropes do outbound links to its comic examples < 1437428979 384074 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm installing a Python IRC library < 1437428997 978482 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we should use nationality-based pronouns instead of gender-based pronouns. We call everyone "han" if they're Finnish, and "han" if they're Norwegian. < 1437429001 11708 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crap, those are the same word. < 1437429001 655914 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it could be worse. my ancestors are French, on both sides of the issue. < 1437429027 795813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can find several mentions of the comic i'm thinking of, but no links to it. why can't everyone do transcripts like DMM < 1437429028 360090 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, roughly half of mine were Dutch < 1437429066 494658 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hence my unusual surname for my country of residence and both of my citizenships) < 1437429099 348056 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: example? < 1437429115 43992 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nellortti! < 1437429123 371060 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily! < 1437429128 968634 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, a porthello I'm not used to use often! < 1437429150 570725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you afraid hppavilion[1]'s family come from the same place as i, or something < 1437429155 827007 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: you can address me as «tu» or «il». < 1437429188 93044 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I wouldn't be surprised at all if that's the case. this chännel attracts people that are attracted by this chännel. < 1437429196 520193 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: i think the finnish is hän? < 1437429198 208351 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: also, tsellott. < 1437429241 257365 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: also, no:han is definitely not gender-neutral < 1437429255 847173 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed it's not. < 1437429274 429043 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :does norwegian have something like sv:hen? < 1437429294 821855 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437429391 8181 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437429405 398138 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: example? <-- "Doc, granted he is a polar bear but once he ate an entire deep-fried walrus." < 1437429447 501401 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: oh btw i mean the comic strip, not the general comic < 1437429459 99471 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1437429460 789370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've already binged the archive < 1437429481 621423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1437429492 741978 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"comic strip" is too damn overloaded in english < 1437429575 330584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: i'm sure the norwegian equivalents to the kind of people who use sv:hen have an equivalent. in fact it might be just the swedish, borrowed. < 1437429607 646235 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which comic? < 1437429613 670850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the whiteboard < 1437429640 341207 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437429842 266949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a furry comic based around paintball, which i don't play, but i started reading it because phil foglio recommended it < 1437429848 149098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also mad science < 1437429938 727310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also paintball is hardly weirder than some of those imaginary games in manga... < 1437429970 459655 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :group : magma :: field : ??? < 1437429990 363161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tricky < 1437430056 118595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :searching for bimagma brings up google's DMCA censorship notice < 1437430066 807741 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fact of the day: Tromsø is the 9th best place in the... I think it was world, but maybe it was just Europe. (Source: ad screen or poster at Victoria Station.) < 1437430083 586908 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ringoid, maybe? < 1437430103 585547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: plausible, let me look it up < 1437430130 476829 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: A "ringette". < 1437430135 565457 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437430140 95132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that's still distributive < 1437430143 660636 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437430166 646158 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437430190 781146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i guess it all depends on how much of the field structure you want to remove before you call it a day < 1437430237 258447 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: probably world hth < 1437430240 510903 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, distribrutivity is fine < 1437430246 356980 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1437430247 217679 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1437430358 339112 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The question is, are IEEE floating points bimagmas/ringoids/ringettes < 1437430488 125573 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer is "no", according to a quick quickcheck < 1437430612 547282 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437430823 138461 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lessee. Not everything has a multiplicative inverse. Everything does have an additive inverse, except for NaN and maybe the infinities, I guess. Addition and multiplication should be commutative, but not associative. < 1437430837 412945 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite sure distributivity will fail as well. < 1437430868 688122 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... as far as I can think, the only property that *is* totally satisfied is commutativity. < 1437430869 629408 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does < 1437430962 958995 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that is, distributivity fails) < 1437431049 198272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: bimagma was just a word i made up in the hope it meant something. didn't find any. < 1437431062 804891 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I think we should make it a thing < 1437431078 88448 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, "IEEE Floating points are a commutative bimagma" < 1437431172 242521 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437431193 509623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dimagma without quotes and once you bypass google's second-guessing seems to give MtG stuff < 1437431234 694715 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to make it that when a program specifies both the width and the height of the window that it will open floating (and that if either or both are left unspecified, open tiled)? < 1437431300 247459 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it seems to be from the Italian translation < 1437431308 98794 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fenice di Magma" < 1437431328 894323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1437431354 85500 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and a lot of other di Magmas) < 1437431385 838147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sensibilie < 1437431388 577092 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And bimagma seems to pick up misspellings of "big mama" or somthing < 1437431390 118008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sensibile < 1437431534 846318 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am going to bed now < 1437431536 173475 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight < 1437431855 384867 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437432056 718375 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437432324 520784 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437432326 142802 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am testing the 15 word limit < 1437432328 586355 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am testing the 15 word limit I am testing the 15 word limit I am testing the 15 word limit < 1437432334 252378 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1437432336 528985 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird < 1437432477 501537 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have tested the 15 word limit. < 1437432545 194466 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In xterm I notice when you backspace after the last character that fit on the line have been typed, it backspace both the last and previous character. How to fix it? < 1437432556 733761 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I work-around? < 1437432565 437657 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I TESTED THE 15 WORD LIMIT < 1437432568 892761 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND I SURVIVED < 1437432576 807394 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL WORSHIP MY WRATHLY GLORY < 1437432595 46345 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDK < 1437432604 701344 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to figure out what xterm is < 1437432608 502193 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the fifteen word limit? I did not know there was a fifteen word limit. Where is this fifteen word limit? < 1437432611 94707 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other news, I'm writing an IRC client < 1437432638 252791 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fif teen word lim it. < 1437432656 102017 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I might be able to figure out < 1437432666 421034 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :n oneo fthe sear ewor ds < 1437432669 743305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: What IRC client you are write, what programming language, what feature, etc? < 1437432673 574924 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...crud < 1437432680 984733 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sear is a word < 1437432683 584731 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2812#page-5 < 1437432725 582074 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't named the IRC client yet < 1437432739 666841 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it will inevitable be a bad play on the word Walrus < 1437432747 167284 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't done yet < 1437432755 368972 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still working on making it connect to servers < 1437432782 528904 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can hook up to Freenode < 1437432785 234034 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's it < 1437432789 914323 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using python < 1437432802 19483 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No special features. Just making it so I'm not using webchat < 1437432805 885745 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I access X clipboard with command-line? I found only GUI programs to do it < 1437432953 584412 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "xclip" the right one? < 1437432977 745251 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1437432982 685537 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: KLEPTOCNIDÆ CHICKEN < 1437433081 671818 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: xclip or xsel < 1437433107 925406 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437433402 951379 :walbot!~walbot@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437433407 19790 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOOHOO < 1437433409 520808 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I MADE IT WORK < 1437433449 485372 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WALBOT IS LIVE < 1437433484 564959 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1437433498 884285 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM VICTOOOOOOOOORIOUS < 1437433502 400068 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is awesome < 1437433535 674378 :walbot!~walbot@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437433545 694893 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eeeeeeeeeverything is awesome < 1437433553 51004 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eeeeeeeeeeeeeverything is cool when you're me < 1437433553 676168 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437433555 599466 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you aren't me < 1437433563 896640 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So eeeeeeeeeeeeverything sucks. For you. < 1437433581 558872 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that's the logical eexteeension of everything being awesome for me < 1437433603 986815 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: so what terrible, critical, horrible malfunction did you just fix to make the world work again? :p < 1437433614 62374 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Watch this < 1437433637 591863 :walbot!~walbot@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437433640 783986 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? < 1437433644 895558 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See singingboyo < 1437433648 474545 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a robot < 1437433658 519035 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't... ahem... do anything < 1437433676 696888 :walbot!~walbot@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437433689 525030 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, in that case, let's hope it's not secretly skynet. That'd be the opposite of making the world work. < 1437433700 256347 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a secret... < 1437433705 194942 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's openly skynet < 1437433722 819909 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It came out as a malicious AI when it was 12 < 1437433753 501255 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that makes all the difference then, doesn't it? :p < 1437433766 387735 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep and oh god my name is wrong < 1437433771 942772 :hppavilion1!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1437433790 411668 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437433791 938812 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1437433794 536927 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's better < 1437433819 440347 :walbot!~walbot@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437433844 54792 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried "xclip -i -sel p | xclip -o -sel s; xclip -i -sel c | xclip -o -sel p; xclip -i -sel s | xclip -o -sel c" to move stuff around between different clipboard buffers but it just makes it empty instead < 1437433846 807894 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to fix this? < 1437433926 704932 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437433972 763225 :walbot!~walbot@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437433989 209632 :walbot!~walbot@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437434082 888374 :walbot!~walbot@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437434102 181198 :walbot!~walbot@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437434135 290506 :walbot!~walbot@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437434155 223226 :walbot!~walbot@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437434155 277434 :walbot!~walbot@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, < 1437434155 277507 :walbot!~walbot@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, < 1437434155 277543 :walbot!~walbot@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, < 1437434165 551207 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :World! < 1437434178 360942 :walbot!~walbot@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, < 1437434219 800365 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1437434229 501241 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's rude to ask < 1437434230 374468 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1437434239 497014 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using webchat, so HOPEFULLY it works < 1437434287 461908 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how doomed are we on a scale of 1 to 10 < 1437434315 659031 :walbot!~walbot@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437434403 221418 :augur_!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1437434524 940170 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am confuzzled by the messages my bot is getting < 1437434531 241071 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm connected to irc.feenode.net < 1437434533 794447 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric < 1437434535 64643 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1437434539 579992 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm getting messages like < 1437434543 655206 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :g o a t s e x < 1437434550 740308 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Congrats! You're unique! < 1437434555 236403 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And erotic ASCII art < 1437434574 293542 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1437434577 50383 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o what's the raw IRC data? < 1437434591 719962 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I typed feenode in as the default server < 1437434592 374298 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1437434645 250998 :hppavilion1!~hppavilio@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437434645 305406 :hppavilion1!~hppavilio@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1437434645 305451 :hppavilion1!~hppavilio@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1437434645 305477 :hppavilion1!~hppavilio@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1437434645 491743 :hppavilion1!~hppavilio@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1437434657 860562 :hppavilion1!~hppavilio@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Testing < 1437434672 549128 :hppavilion1!~hppavilio@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1437434682 320673 :hppavilion1!~hppavilio@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just < 1437434685 640422 :hppavilion1!~hppavilio@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sending < 1437434687 434307 :hppavilion1!~hppavilio@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :messages < 1437434689 66904 :hppavilion1!~hppavilio@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1437434699 78577 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of a bug < 1437434721 915282 :hppavilion1!~hppavilio@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437434748 296214 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: for bot testing, you can use ##ingsoc < 1437434761 366429 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1437434802 202732 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what I hate about Python 3? < 1437434805 647194 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Skype4Py < 1437434807 912110 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Pyspeech < 1437434810 137081 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etc. < 1437434842 314170 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437434858 47634 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dangit, I think my virtualbox VM tried to shut itself down again < 1437434866 649685 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssh connections just hanging for eternity < 1437434918 775352 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want skype4py for python3 :,( < 1437434933 77346 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the py3support branch of a fork of skype4py doesn't work :( < 1437434937 715907 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The setup.py < 1437434943 441354 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IS WRITTEN IN PYTHON 2 < 1437435203 242763 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is sad < 1437435216 707905 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only other py3 port I can find is an empty repo on github < 1437435595 432463 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437436647 97440 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437436743 900013 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437436748 217537 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1437437066 275210 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437437307 480033 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437437573 825533 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1437438307 172873 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437438536 53522 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437438561 320351 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437438564 215095 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1437438602 39629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lo < 1437438707 394499 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1437438719 442609 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1437439023 388754 :mihow!~mihow@23.24.246.165 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437439245 981448 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437439258 45184 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437439401 120627 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437439797 571471 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? RAII < 1437439798 444330 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAII? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1437439932 787877 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn RAII/RAII is Resource Allocation in the constructor... wait wait uh... Is uh, Initialization < 1437439934 745946 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «raii» < 1437439965 865791 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not `learn? < 1437439978 165559 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like / < 1437439982 617936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're lucky `le/rn happens to lowercase the input. < 1437439995 20486 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't do any of the other transformations required to make a wisdom entry. < 1437439997 173567 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently even on Reddit I'm boring: https://www.reddit.com/r/User_Simulator/comments/3dzjbp/lets_all_test_here/ctad1js?context=3#ctad0c3 < 1437440004 541745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wait for oerjan to hear about this < 1437440069 664430 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reddit is a poor imitation of *chan < 1437440079 613168 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could get simulated, but then i'd have to kill you < 1437440089 283204 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that wisdom entry for < 1437440120 603461 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the whole "wait wait uh" thing < 1437440162 502370 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Quit: Hugs~ <3 < 1437440168 873546 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes fun of the fact that the RAII acronym makes no sense < 1437440234 274580 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but i don't buy that it helps the wisdom database < 1437440238 363234 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1437440273 245415 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it helps it by being funny if you know what it is < 1437440338 81674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what RAII is (and I think "RAII" isn't a particularly good name for it -- "RDID" is slightly better but also not great) and I don't think it's funny. < 1437440541 586395 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? RAII < 1437440542 297039 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAII is Resource Allocation in the constructor... wait wait uh... Is uh, Initialization < 1437440657 983416 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn RAII means you allocate in the constructor and deallocate in the destructor. There is no 'initializer' involved. < 1437440660 290903 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'raii': RAII means you allocate in the constructor and deallocate in the destructor. There is no 'initializer' involved. < 1437440699 362675 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1437440718 253654 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is that less humorous enough < 1437440787 826339 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1437440788 556783 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1437440792 522477 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1437440794 951249 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gopher/Gopher is int-e's vision of the successor of HTTP/2. But zzo38 thought of it first. < 1437440799 693560 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1437440800 647509 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :latex/LaTeX is \end{verbatim} \textbackslash textbackslash begin\textbackslash \{document\textbackslash \} < 1437440809 152816 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a problem with PHIRC because it was expecting PuTTY but now it is xterm instead, so it wouldn't wrap lines or backspace properly, as well as some other problems, but I fixed it by making a shell-script to wrap around it, as well as a program called "winchset.c" which just copies from stdin to stdout until EOF, except that when it receives SIGWINCH it will report the terminal size of stdin to stdout. < 1437440858 398017 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can send the program in case you would need it < 1437441025 8823 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437441867 447621 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437441918 664719 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1437441919 618601 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indexed monad/Indexed monads are just monads on an indexed category. \ Indexed monads are just categories enriched over the monoidal category of endofunctors. < 1437441936 858076 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1437441937 770106 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bdsm/BDSM definitely isn't a kind of LARP and Taneb definitely did not invent it. < 1437441945 380329 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1437441947 182261 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :_̰̆̓_̦̻̖͍̟̖̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_̯͙̬̬̦̯͂͋͒ͧ͋̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞/_̰̆̓_̦̻̖͍̟̖́̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_̯͙̬̬̦̯͂͋͒ͧ͋̈̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞ _̰̆̓_̦̻̖͍̟̖́̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_̯͙̬̬̦̯͂͋͒ͧ͋̈̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞ < 1437441973 483059 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1437441974 701305 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :famicom/Famicom is a famous sitcom from Japan. < 1437441978 444213 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1437441979 952397 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :roujo/Roujo is a Java heretic leaning on ungrammatical Haskell. His claim to Canadianness is marred by an unholy portal to China. The treaties suffer, so the cocktail will be postponed. He does not understand shell quoting. < 1437442604 533928 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1437442729 353620 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist PART #esoteric :"WeeChat 1.2" < 1437444145 451621 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437444377 667754 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:1c51:1ee8:6395:d95b JOIN :#esoteric < 1437445236 853430 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437445367 777149 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437445470 575460 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1437446137 170691 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437446509 740961 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone here with experience with GitHub's premium services? < 1437446727 311199 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-240.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i pay to have private repos < 1437446735 971738 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:1c51:1ee8:6395:d95b PART :#esoteric < 1437447263 662436 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp_: mind answering some quetsions in PM? < 1437447276 226823 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-240.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont mind < 1437447773 820861 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437448080 816197 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437448086 341482 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the calculation called when you have one number and the answer is the original number divided by all square numbers it can be divisible by? < 1437448245 394269 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Equivalently, take the set of prime factors which occur odd numbers of time, and take one of each and multiplied together) < 1437448262 738085 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ylzbieafzjpzdydo QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437448477 264720 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://su3su2u1.tumblr.com/post/124431191528/reasons-to-hate-r < 1437448891 679730 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1437449972 491511 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-240.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square-free_integer#Squarefree_core < 1437450329 656803 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1437450373 501567 :password2!~password@197.77.28.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437450500 135064 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Digi-RGB display that wants to support arbitrary resolutions will need to be able to calculate a squarefree core, since it is used to determine what aspect ratio to use. Actually, it only has to determine whether the squarefree core is a particular number; it doesn't necessarily have to calculate squarefree cores. < 1437451477 480676 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437451728 766233 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437454029 599773 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437454765 176008 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437454840 82390 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437455292 563395 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDream < 1437456114 842171 :programming!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437456133 705746 :programming!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 QUIT :Client Quit < 1437456289 903488 :hppavilion1[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437456303 893815 :hppavilion1[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1437456313 87257 :hppavilion1[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does webchat only allow one server at a time? < 1437456334 526391 :hppavilion1[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 QUIT :Client Quit < 1437456382 984340 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437457311 11034 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437457368 366557 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-nnumjgrniwvwfuyu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Webtv? < 1437457472 332161 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437457538 196350 :password2!~password@197.77.28.128 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437457566 225941 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1437458376 736341 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437458542 306167 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1437458650 22644 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437458825 966939 :aretecode!~aretecode@S01061859339e5f51.cc.shawcable.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437458916 45254 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437459011 786687 :aretecode!~aretecode@S01061859339e5f51.cc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437459254 48431 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437460628 947570 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Call Queue14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43561 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+306) 10Created Page < 1437460872 385140 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Latest wisdom from the neural net: < 1437460874 179768 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:25:39: good light like that is still the last exploit < 1437460895 254907 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't agree. Good light like that is, most certainly, still the last exploit. < 1437460902 451360 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s// more/ < 1437461637 311377 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have now written the program to play .MOD/.XM/.S3M/.IT with Linux command-line. It expect music file in stdin and then writes the raw data to stdout you can then pipe it to aplay in order to play it back. You could even do stuff like: amigamml | playmod | aplay < 1437461862 166224 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Tangle bracket language14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43562 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+537) 10Created Page. Hope there isn't already one for it :( < 1437461871 785874 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yaaaaaaaay I've created a pgae < 1437461874 630372 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*page < 1437461879 120487 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it might be good < 1437461921 948182 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone want to congratulate me? :{P < 1437461973 829629 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, let's see what it is and then we can see about congratulating you. < 1437462051 423506 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Tangle bracket language14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43563&oldid=43562 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+156) 10Elaborated on tangliness < 1437462089 159945 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more of a concept than a language itself < 1437462128 903478 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of like what I think "Call Queue" should be < 1437462247 611274 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Tangle bracket language14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43564&oldid=43563 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+0) 10Moved {{stub}} < 1437462291 735281 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So? < 1437462295 519554 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 < 1437462301 952629 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think? < 1437462410 153955 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it < 1437462432 549848 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yaaaaaay < 1437462441 384070 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :About moving it, I think just changing the category may work < 1437462452 338311 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I first heard about languages like that with ~ATH < 1437462458 349146 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moving Call Queue? < 1437462470 103541 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or moving Tangle Bracket Language? < 1437462555 891645 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant moving Call Queue as the message on the talk page; that is what I was refering to < 1437462588 776467 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do like the "tangle bracket language" actually it is ideas I have thought before too < 1437462609 734394 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1437462614 714522 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the example program seem clear to me < 1437462629 342252 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's late here and I don't want to think :P < 1437462639 300595 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want you can edit the page to explain it to people < 1437462660 605588 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Call Queue is a language, but I think it should be a concept for languages < 1437462669 194537 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't want to delete someone else's work < 1437462683 305010 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So either I'll make a page called Call Queue (concept) < 1437462717 394927 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or move Call Queue to "Koen's Call Queue Language" < 1437462741 992140 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which seems to be that if x is false then doSomethingElse, otherwise if y is false do nothing, otherwise if x and y are both true then doSomething and then repeat. That's what it look like to me < 1437462773 145723 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1437462788 259199 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not going to try to read that < 1437462802 927069 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1437462867 306872 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tabbed out, so add "hppavilion[1]" to any messages to me < 1437462997 551580 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: But my idea was they don't have to be tangled it is optional, anyways < 1437463046 707025 :hppavilion[1]_!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437463050 528760 :hppavilion[1]_!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit firefox < 1437463061 580532 :hppavilion[1]_!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It crashed < 1437463125 695453 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437463184 583217 :hppavilion[1]_!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1437463189 744624 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1437463298 295965 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So < 1437463330 421529 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Tangle bracket language14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43565 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+247) 10This is what I expect the example code to mean < 1437463368 570144 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So? < 1437463382 771795 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1437463383 578509 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So. < 1437463401 37515 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-chxdmydmjeuhtwsl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437463403 914290 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1437463419 855145 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't see the update < 1437463425 770786 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How long does this usually take? < 1437463439 378741 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1437463441 242156 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was in talk < 1437463446 514269 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION facepalms < 1437463574 591702 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Tangle bracket language14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43566&oldid=43564 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (-20) 10Implemented User:Zzo38's code < 1437463583 712821 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks for the code :) < 1437463664 639885 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imma go make a sandwitch < 1437463674 388611 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the && is lazy (like in C) then it doesn't matter whether or not y has side-effects, I think < 1437463681 282199 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imma go make a sandwitch < 1437463689 734221 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW DO I AFK MYSELF < 1437463723 715287 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use AWAY with any non-empty parameter; this won't indicate it except to someone who send private message or WHOIS to you though. < 1437463736 257423 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1437463741 181369 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Whatever IRC client you use might have a menu for it; I don't know) < 1437463741 697056 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I'm doing it anyway :P < 1437463754 813972 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AWAY with no parameter cancels this function. < 1437463969 383894 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-143-158.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1437463980 572926 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Test < 1437464248 77171 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iiiiiiiiiiii' dreeeeeaming of a word of eeeeeeendless < 1437464252 367703 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NIGHTMARES < 1437464889 640080 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437464915 939642 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hzyibimleiqueflb QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437465044 242345 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aqwyegkcbmuhndir QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437465051 52383 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-scpjvxpeonngxcmv JOIN :#esoteric < 1437465078 23977 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tbmkimiocsjpnlkz JOIN :#esoteric < 1437465212 111302 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437465462 6047 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437465720 308291 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437467891 454453 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1437468200 984875 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1437468464 405362 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07O14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43567&oldid=43555 5* 03Phase 5* (+98) 10link to ReadTheDocs < 1437468641 219891 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Of the fatalities on the railway in 2013/14, seven occurred on a level crossing, 18 involved people trespassing on the railway and 286 were suicide or suspected suicide." < 1437468713 864420 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not a uniform distribution. < 1437468716 629774 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(My morning commute was delayed by one today.) < 1437468946 368507 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it's a quite failsafe suicide method < 1437469040 41145 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437469067 991554 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :In what sense is a suicide method fail-safe < 1437469300 848984 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1437469519 756020 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you're guaranteed to succeed < 1437469590 413102 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you take pills but fail to take enough, you may end up living but braindead < 1437469891 292058 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437469907 501890 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Reliable statistics on the likely mortality rate of being hit by an overground or underground train are hard to locate. Wikipedia quotes a 90% mortality rate for jumping in front of a high speed train (not when it is slowing down as it comes in to a platform though), and 67% for subway/underground trains, as people are generally jumping as the trains are slowing down coming into a station." < 1437469990 565043 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are probably out of a hat, but I wouldn't expect it to be entirely foolproof. < 1437470012 358160 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your best bet may be a bridge, but bridges that cross tracks tend to be fenced up. < 1437470027 329378 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And if you do survive, I assume you're quite likely to end up badly injured.) < 1437470147 417691 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :A handgun would probably have a much higher success rate (but beware https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb_GNzfEBKI) < 1437470533 89309 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if you jump before a train that is just about to stop... well that's obviously not fail-proof. < 1437470551 361398 :janus_!~janus@unaffiliated/silent-hacker JOIN :#esoteric < 1437470553 785424 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... idiots < 1437470561 205594 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you do it, at least do it well < 1437470610 348634 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a high-speed train goes through your body, you're 100% guaranteed to not live < 1437470635 872995 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that 90% mortality rate probably comes from people bouncing off or something < 1437471282 370436 :janus_!~janus@unaffiliated/silent-hacker PART :#esoteric < 1437471546 726140 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1437472032 785275 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Features I want Java to have < 1437472051 615767 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.) allow void bar() { if(condition) return handleError(); } < 1437472068 641293 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.) allow class overloading < 1437472090 204682 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as class Pair; and class Pair < 1437472323 615672 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what happens with exceptions that happen during close if you use try-with? < 1437472335 885299 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :try(FileInputStream fis = new FileInputStream(new File("foo.txt"))) { } < 1437472343 898103 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :close() may throw an IOException < 1437472354 519747 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it seems the try-with statement suppresses the Exceptions on close()? < 1437472634 502953 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm no. < 1437472640 634966 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can be catched in the catch block as usual < 1437472730 14817 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is actually pretty cool < 1437472737 550900 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :with this, you can sorta get something like destructors :D < 1437472979 221291 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just gotta be careful not to copy references < 1437473091 235807 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only failsafe suicide method is overdosing on barbiturates in combination with a plastic bag over your head < 1437473112 173734 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... it's the fail-safest suicide method at least < 1437473160 728322 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrist cutting and trying to overdose by yourself is generally not really a safe way of doing it < 1437473172 801108 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly because you have to cut precisely and deep enough < 1437473178 102298 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(deeper than you'd think) < 1437473218 628268 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you better take some stuff before-hand that stops coagulation < 1437473276 472236 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you need an anti-emetic if you plan on doing it with drugs < 1437473302 941111 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise plastic bag + helium works quite nicely < 1437473314 166161 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your helium tank is big enough and the plastic bag is used correctly < 1437473322 497685 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how it's done in countries with no legal euthanasia < 1437473400 148692 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since barbiturates are hard to get < 1437473921 791196 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437474503 723899 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does rust still have owned pointers < 1437474508 408114 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that obsolete < 1437474514 324034 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so? < 1437474532 81635 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(crappy thing about rust is, that lots of example code on the net does not compile anymore because rust has changed a lot) < 1437474558 568760 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: data structures in rust are generally value types, right? < 1437474575 432412 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not the one to ask, I'm afraid < 1437474578 618162 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh :( < 1437474582 731985 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437474696 799738 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chemicals used for lethal injections are extremely reliable, but harder to get < 1437475515 356907 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, injecting any poisonous chemical should be lethal < 1437475538 681821 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the dosage is enough < 1437475697 844513 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though some people injected large amounts of mercury, but did not die, so that's not fail-safe) < 1437475807 121581 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The body has some ways to reject toxins. < 1437475863 862675 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437475870 875875 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you inject some cyanide, that won't be rejected < 1437476318 619083 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1437476418 263176 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are lots of common poisons. f.ex. jimsonweed is common, and if you eat a lot, it kills you. or make a tea out of a pack of cigarettes - nicotine is a strong poison so it will kill you < 1437476433 977411 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no antidote < 1437476446 135838 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you cannot even be saved, so it's kinda fail-safe < 1437476454 326191 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"will" is a strong word. What's the LD50 for herbal nicotine? < 1437476469 483756 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :750mg < 1437476508 286597 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some think it's 60mg < 1437476530 213489 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the relevant product feature is actually LD99 < 1437476566 899803 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Standard textbooks, databases, and safety sheets consistently state that the lethal dose for adults is 60 mg or less (30–60 mg), leading to safety warnings that ingestion of five cigarettes or 10 ml of a dilute nicotine-containing solution could kill an adult." < 1437476572 542138 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(dosage that's lethal at 99% probability) < 1437476592 700698 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1437476593 757309 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's easy - just keep ingesting more until you die < 1437476595 927939 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :99% isn't good enough < 1437476599 792485 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :For many toxins, the LD90 is much higher than the LD50 dose. < 1437476601 728048 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :100% failsafe < 1437476604 207543 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's still 1 out of 100 people surviving < 1437476624 613927 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. drink 1 cup. 2. if not dead within 30 mins, drink another cup. 3. go to step 1 < 1437476629 113624 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering there is at least one suicide a day around here < 1437476635 523847 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :three people would survive each year < 1437476638 321652 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not good enough < 1437476656 858764 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, we need ld100 < 1437476674 81382 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well at max 1 in 10000 who survives < 1437476697 571447 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it's not safe < 1437476699 482151 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ld99.999 < 1437476706 629559 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :99% would already be a great safety improvement over the current estimate of ~10%: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Failed_suicide_attempt < 1437476771 788943 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously rates of nonfatal self-injury is through the roof compared to suicide < 1437476782 957690 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a useless sentence there < 1437476838 443820 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it includes self-injuries < 1437476866 23738 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hu? < 1437476876 249313 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :self-injury isn't suicide < 1437476898 99068 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise I'd have at least 3 suicide attempts within the last month. < 1437476913 196525 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently those statistics include self-injuries in suicide attempts < 1437476927 689714 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1437476930 730766 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way. < 1437476940 7448 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1437476948 591242 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :suicide attempts count as self-injury < 1437476955 61865 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or self-injury counts as suicide attempt? < 1437476956 769242 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cigarette contains ~12mg of nicotine. so, make and drink a tea out of 5 packs of cigarettes, eat 3 handfuls of jimson weed, and eat 100 caffeine tablets. i think that's almost 100% fail-safe < 1437477024 963832 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ swallow some rat-poison, just in case < 1437477031 103170 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can never know < 1437477131 888263 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :poisons are easily available < 1437477279 814274 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: also if the second one: What forms of self-injury < 1437477297 990333 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :potentially lethal self-injury? < 1437477311 804953 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(however you'd define "potentially lethal") < 1437477321 595015 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ones that would get you sent to a suicide therapist, presumably < 1437477354 372900 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :here when you have an attempted suicide, they pump you full of drugs < 1437477538 732359 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Ok, so potentially lethal self-injury < 1437477566 595369 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PECTORAL CHICKEN < 1437477568 572880 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't send you to a therapist just because of cutting that leaves ugly scars but isn't lethal < 1437477783 182966 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did this topic arise < 1437477833 217419 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My fault. < 1437477855 130699 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't worry, it will soon die off by itself < 1437477884 752553 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :On another note... I am being really unproductive today < 1437478028 984067 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In the late 19th century in Great Britain, attempted suicide was deemed to be equivalent to attempted murder and could be punished by hanging." < 1437478035 78782 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1437478076 816420 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if you didn't kill yourself, we will" < 1437478078 215020 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hanged convicts lost their inheritance to the crown, I think < 1437478257 409259 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437478509 645249 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1437478518 304041 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437478522 132115 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437478593 972230 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437478594 26593 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1437478594 26658 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437479031 248434 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1437480127 940857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1437480371 720456 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437480621 320783 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Quit: Hugs~ <3 < 1437480707 26572 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1437481265 612447 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Quit: Hugs~ <3 < 1437481347 31856 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1437481393 206235 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437482278 947246 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1437483224 849613 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437483410 356551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :morbid channel today < 1437483489 268899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : well, it's easy - just keep ingesting more until you die <-- istr at least for some pills the problem is your body is too smart: you start vomiting it up faster than it can kill you < 1437483558 76198 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I think that way you will eventually die (or get into serious medical straits) from vomiting too much < 1437483560 867650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'd also imagine for some poisons, you might pass out and not die < 1437483622 980808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you cannot get to 100% with anything; you might be accidentally saved by an asteroid impact. somehow. < 1437483661 536031 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or killed by the asteroid before the poison kicks in < 1437483674 283488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i think the point of the discussion was how to ensure you die with no risk of ending up seriously injured but alive < 1437483690 134207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well part of the discussion anyway < 1437483691 585278 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could be a small meteorite < 1437483749 45003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :meteorites are small asteroids or comets, aren't they < 1437483756 25525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pieces of such < 1437484666 386657 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :overdosing can cause liver failures < 1437484670 689441 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a serious injury. < 1437484696 33714 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(overdosing can leave lots of permanent injuries if it fails) < 1437486237 598590 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437488519 631544 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1437490713 762009 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437490987 781430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1437491051 212067 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437491200 954960 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1437491203 555459 :skarn!skarn@unaffiliated/skarn QUIT :*.net *.split < 1437491204 545818 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera QUIT :*.net *.split < 1437491205 606180 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-nnumjgrniwvwfuyu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1437492651 233296 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Windows 10 will have its very own SPARTAN-aftermarket sidekick: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortana_(voice_assistant) < 1437492817 397368 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Never mind, apparently it's already in phones) < 1437493120 131121 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1437493193 769203 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBS < 1437493578 94972 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1437493607 804251 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437493795 717095 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437494701 79465 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437495024 12750 :izabera_!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera JOIN :#esoteric < 1437495047 258603 :izabera_!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera NICK :izabera < 1437496641 457472 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-143-158.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1437496893 540485 :password2!~password@197.77.66.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437497013 590758 :password2!~password@197.77.66.66 PART :#esoteric < 1437497310 521102 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1437497564 186536 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1437497771 9698 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1437498677 570995 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-urfvdsnwrhicltkn JOIN :#esoteric < 1437499342 903713 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437499462 70026 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-79-14.42-151.net24.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1437500442 943601 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437500873 467759 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437500905 1069 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My opinion is making a SIGMEM signal that by default does nothing, but a program that can use a lot of memory that isn't mandatory should catch this signal in order to free any memory it doesn't need absolutely (such as a cache), and should probably also try to reallocate existing dynamic memory at the same size as it already was, and to malloc_trim(0) < 1437500928 659655 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Android has a thing like that. < 1437500973 242356 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an onTrimMemory callback you can implement, it's "Called when the operating system has determined that it is a good time for a process to trim unneeded memory from its process." < 1437500981 443625 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Away. ->) < 1437501140 127406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I've suggested something like that before. < 1437501204 453853 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I mean that even if the operating system is not running out of memory that you could call it manually by "kill -SIGMEM" command < 1437501213 735398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1437501281 347659 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a program does its own caching instead of relying on the OS page cache, there's no reason for it to hog memory when someone else wants it. < 1437501623 737509 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437501906 451653 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1437501918 308550 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mips/MIPS Is Popular in Schools. < 1437501941 766238 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like sched_yield, another interface that nobody ever uses. < 1437502317 160182 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437502354 41191 :skarn!skarn@unaffiliated/skarn JOIN :#esoteric < 1437502569 16644 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-chxdmydmjeuhtwsl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437502641 917144 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-rxaxqwoqsvthvldj JOIN :#esoteric < 1437504453 273853 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437504973 868115 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437505066 937286 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1437505512 321762 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1437506932 610430 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437506945 871394 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437506952 288477 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellu < 1437507054 675183 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sue. < 1437507112 967194 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-79-14.42-151.net24.it QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437507173 616401 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437507334 832804 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437507691 641410 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is your music playing program a UNIX-style filter? < 1437507812 533871 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437507847 744246 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437508646 120627 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437508710 558496 :hppavilion[1][1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437508711 979748 :hppavilion[1][1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay < 1437508717 58032 :hppavilion[1][1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm 2D < 1437508837 899679 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437509543 148001 :villasukka!villasukka@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1437509551 974934 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437509651 63322 :villasukka!villasukka@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437509653 951107 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437510465 181330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1437510716 122914 :villasukka!villasukka@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1437510731 461256 :hppavilion[1][1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437510740 964852 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437510750 108042 :villasukka!villasukka@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437510753 709328 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437511124 990097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, hppavilion[1] left? < 1437511145 563577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] here's the comic i blathered about http://www.the-whiteboard.com/autowb516.html < 1437511145 669641 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1437511168 801186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid contrary universe. < 1437511773 149700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? relrod < 1437511774 40659 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A relrod is a machine useful for finding the Force. < 1437511791 601123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1437511891 42917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/relrod | grep summary: < 1437511892 61464 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: learn A relrod is a machine useful for finding the Force. < 1437511894 720556 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember that. < 1437511957 209590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 relrod < 1437511957 904125 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eryebq < 1437512110 440542 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's in http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/2015-04-02.txt ... hmm still don't get it. < 1437512145 863653 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hello shachaf :P < 1437512156 121528 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I don't either. < 1437512157 257308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :relrod: Do you get it? < 1437512165 579030 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :no :( < 1437512174 152613 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1437512181 454979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:11:06: what's an elrod? < 1437512185 688240 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:11:58: relrod: You may be more qualified to answer that than I am. < 1437512188 633272 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:13:46: http://www.globalsino.com/EM/image1/3911.gif ??? < 1437512191 138449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:14:40: ah that must be the machine cern used to find the force < 1437512255 960351 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1437512256 884455 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1437512257 162168 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. < 1437512267 893009 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: thanks. < 1437512272 182457 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that was ... anticlimatic. < 1437512279 880138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:51:08: shachaf: Lately I'm on a type theory thing. Trying to work with people in the math department at my school and have them let me do an Individual Study in type theory. < 1437512280 557159 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and no that wasn't ironic) < 1437512283 844443 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :relrod: how's that going < 1437512285 606845 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nor sarcastic) < 1437512294 631770 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :anticlimactic* < 1437512324 691551 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1437512325 580420 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your famous evil overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who hates Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. < 1437512327 8141 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :relrod: if it's anticlimactic feel free to change it hth < 1437512354 214459 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? universe < 1437512355 97111 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :universe? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1437512385 842549 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The universe was created as an opposing force to oerjan. < 1437512387 948602 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'universe': The universe was created as an opposing force to oerjan. < 1437512412 877388 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: re: your question -- in the math department, not so well, but I did get permission from my CS advisor to do some self-study courses using TaPL and CPDT, so there's that < 1437512436 468025 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i conflict-free propagated data type < 1437512449 594298 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :w.. what < 1437512460 379512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpdt < 1437512492 784185 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I got that. I've just never seen that expansion of that abbreviation. < 1437512496 481985 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437512512 464634 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made it up, hence i,i < 1437512512 570856 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google cpdt book < 1437512513 848594 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://adam.chlipala.net/cpdt/ < 1437512513 902941 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Certified Programming with Dependent Types < 1437512523 402553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google conflict-free propagated data type < 1437512523 887294 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict-free_replicated_data_type < 1437512541 105760 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1437512593 870411 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: fine, you win. :P < 1437512623 803858 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what you win though. Hopefully not money. Because I don't have any money to give you. :P < 1437512625 399543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now I remember Smerdyakov's book. < 1437512735 990893 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,I ethical fair trade replicated data types < 1437512953 979069 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :certified conflict-free < 1437512970 4113 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floating Boolean < 1437512983 453490 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: also where did *you* get "I,I" from twh < 1437513005 148331 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437513020 880840 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437513021 173311 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 QUIT :Changing host < 1437513021 227548 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437513080 27359 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote mauke < 1437513080 669377 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1151) C++ is a superset of a subset of C < 1437513188 419672 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote hppavilion1 < 1437513189 727276 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1245) hppavilion1: there's not much point in `addquoting an `addquote unless the person who added it was somehow significant, or there's interesting context because you can tell it was added from the fact that it's there < 1437513206 898625 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1437513238 27400 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log quotes | grep 'fact that it' < 1437513239 127169 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: addquote hppavilion1: there\'s not much point in `addquoting an `addquote unless the person who added it was somehow significant, or there\'s interesting context because you can tell it was added from the fact that it\'s there \ summary: addquote the scene: it is a warm summer < 1437513362 218945 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437513437 803694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `learn The universe was created as an opposing force to oerjan. <-- YOU KNOW TOO MUCH < 1437513526 358607 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/created/invented by Taneb/' wisdom/universe < 1437513527 903461 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437513809 868544 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :For every oerjan there is an equal opposite oerjan < 1437513811 789269 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning < 1437513815 829919 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no matter how smart oerjan is < 1437513822 538704 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's going to be someone who is equall dumb < 1437513834 854108 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*equally < 1437513875 610263 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437513897 183888 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1437513966 747506 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437513977 80118 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? universe < 1437513977 894200 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The universe was invented by Taneb as an opposing force to oerjan. < 1437513981 548946 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437513990 993579 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1437513997 209997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that makes it better somehow. < 1437514001 345090 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that person might just be me . < 1437514009 517513 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1437514010 309747 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your famous evil overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who hates Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. < 1437514038 478902 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The context was: stupid contrary universe. < 1437514113 212026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: no, the equal opposite to me would be actually successful at what he does, not dumb. except in math and programming. < 1437514176 435114 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn. < 1437514183 664076 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'm not sucessful at what I'm doing < 1437514203 809157 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, s/he/she/ for more stereotypical oppositeness < 1437514223 93348 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use "they" < 1437514242 745136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: that wouldn't be very opposite, i am not a gender neutral person. < 1437514288 149207 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1437514290 309442 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1437514335 714824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose this all depends on which parts are equal and which are opposite. < 1437514572 162101 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437514738 74614 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437514837 68290 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or which are random < 1437514856 394030 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the opposite of having 10 fingers? < 1437514859 156442 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437514866 604171 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :having 9 or 11? < 1437514918 132995 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437515248 17567 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437515842 15201 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437516119 144588 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437516200 434639 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437516213 420653 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1437516315 640996 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437516898 780971 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437517197 100566 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1437517275 575853 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437517586 138593 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1437517589 957698 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437517590 12089 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 QUIT :Changing host < 1437517590 12196 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437519690 266148 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437519767 592280 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437519859 526762 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437520285 935439 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-094-221-222-167.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437520384 135612 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-094-221-222-167.094.221.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1437520553 342140 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437520753 140109 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1437520775 7599 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1437522231 385346 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Test < 1437522776 104524 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437522976 882154 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I cause it to read a manual page that I wrote? < 1437523081 410 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1437523088 411939 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, I may have figure out < 1437523091 541108 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's try < 1437523144 358763 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437523148 745137 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, it is work < 1437523420 221477 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you testing < 1437524157 663923 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got cat slobber on my touchscreen :( < 1437524233 96471 :hppavilion1!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437524260 53099 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437524279 421419 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFLkou8NvJo < 1437524333 119567 :aretecode!~aretecode@S01061859339e5f51.cc.shawcable.net QUIT :Quit: Toodaloo < 1437524670 719496 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, I understand the end of the world a bit better now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWeAsCzHvTo < 1437524688 367606 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hansel song) < 1437524809 183941 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks. do you know if there exists a list of all songs released up to date, so I can check what I've missed < 1437524830 878189 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1437524972 331110 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://theevilliouschronicles.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Songs might be your best bet < 1437525017 43445 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ would have liked a chronologically ordered one, but eeh, good enough < 1437525020 366388 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437525058 725587 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chronologically as in in-world time, or as in release order? < 1437525070 93614 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :release order < 1437525209 312185 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://theevilliouschronicles.wikia.com/wiki/Evillious_Chronicles#Song_Listing < 1437525219 451181 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not certain if release order, but at least a few songs look right < 1437525295 923170 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, does seem to be < 1437525318 619240 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make a playlist at some point < 1437525324 716337 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've seen every song < 1437525797 843901 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good evng < 1437525929 552908 :hppavilion1!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :POOOOOOOOOOOONIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES < 1437525936 444785 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1437525940 492086 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-.- < 1437526084 819003 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :see inoop? < 1437526339 63990 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, hmm, that translation of Boy of the End seemed to imply to me that ONE of the endings is the true one, but wiki seems to suggest all of them will come true < 1437526341 115148 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm confused < 1437526390 174758 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1437526637 207420 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE WORLD ENDED ALREADY?!? < 1437526637 668952 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://theevilliouschronicles.wikia.com/wiki/Punishment#History < 1437526657 735713 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the songs were building up to revealing what the end would be, with the birth of Irregular etc. < 1437526759 579391 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437526764 610760 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1437527069 28825 :hppavilion1!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437527069 83035 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437527081 357921 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1437527133 78459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the world _must_ be ending, fungot has left < 1437527187 580843 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437528638 719278 :mihow!~mihow@c-67-171-136-69.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437528644 130891 :mihow!~mihow@c-67-171-136-69.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437528664 545354 :mihow!~mihow@c-67-171-136-69.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437528829 35821 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437529430 96691 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this a proper way of to make man page? http://sprunge.us/HBIM It is work for me, but is the stuff written there how it should be written man page? < 1437529746 499153 :mihow!~mihow@c-67-171-136-69.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437529770 336929 :mihow!~mihow@c-67-171-136-69.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437530194 722797 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1437530204 633868 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist PART :#esoteric < 1437530509 656908 :mihow!~mihow@c-67-171-136-69.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437531259 370668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Gooed knight < 1437531880 350987 :mihow!~mihow@c-67-171-136-69.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437532519 564115 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437533269 207010 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437533530 206441 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1437533566 869574 :mihow!~mihow@c-67-171-136-69.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437536702 755751 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1437536953 631207 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437537182 951373 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you believe my guess of how the example codes in the [[Tangle bracket language]] is working, is correct? < 1437537250 598958 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437537916 767523 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437537916 973032 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437538157 576005 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Putting a bent paperclip in the power supply worked! < 1437538499 412374 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I get Windows-like function key operation for bash? < 1437539064 733010 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1437539088 705855 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437539991 984651 :password2!~password@197.77.72.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437540231 359675 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :windows? < 1437540432 727110 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as F3=repeat last command (but keep what you have currently typed and delete those first few characters from the added text), F2=type another character and repeat previous like F3 but stop just before that character, F5=save last command but don't execute it, F8=search in history for command starting with what you have typed, F1=repeat one character from last command. < 1437540561 326091 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it would help if F5 function it change text into different color so that you can know it didn't execute < 1437541049 453388 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend learning the default keys for bash, that way you can use them on every linux box < 1437541094 250835 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but are any of these functions available? < 1437541123 793185 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ctrl-r is search history < 1437541126 701589 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bigsmoke.us/readline/shortcuts < 1437541165 554210 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437541603 360515 :llue!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437541603 512710 :llue!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1437541603 566945 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437541801 332039 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437542443 510346 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437543163 511700 :password2!~password@197.77.72.172 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437544708 884476 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some terminal emulator implement you can't read back the window title, for security purpose. But I have another idea, to have "secure read title" option, which when the program request the window title it will remember the current window title and send the index into its array of storage, so that it can still put back the window title how it was before, even without knowing what it is. < 1437544795 638763 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437545084 588776 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437545457 478272 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437545732 606415 :hppavilion[1][42!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437545736 163497 :hppavilion[1][42!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1437545745 242844 :hppavilion[1][42!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 NICK :hppavilion[1][0] < 1437545751 621608 :hppavilion[1][0]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's bettaaaaaaar < 1437545945 754220 :hppavilion[1][0]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of an esoteric assembly language < 1437546061 945126 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, what kind of esoteric assembly language? < 1437546212 113765 :hppavilion[1][0]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, take a bunch of OISC languages < 1437546215 451004 :hppavilion[1][0]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And put them together < 1437546224 936020 :hppavilion[1][0]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus defeating the purpose of a OISC < 1437546249 802707 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do think most oisc languages cannot be put together < 1437546264 361269 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you don't actually mention the instruction < 1437546281 662353 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to make the instruction depending on the value < 1437546295 886107 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may be hard to do this without losing tc < 1437546316 662997 :hppavilion[1][0]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1437546318 413563 :radza!~radza@86.103.130.68 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437546323 19905 :hppavilion[1][0]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well you WOULD have to include the instruction < 1437546340 304490 :hppavilion[1][0]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I meant was taking the _possible instructions for use_ in a OISC < 1437546343 697759 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be pretty hard for e.g. subleq < 1437546345 327775 :hppavilion[1][0]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And making a language out of it < 1437546363 778595 :hppavilion[1][0]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How so? < 1437546406 465750 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :go try < 1437546411 316106 :radza!~radza@86.103.130.68 PART :#esoteric < 1437546593 944973 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437547205 850624 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437548016 770306 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437548481 896099 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437548752 816830 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1437549769 445578 :hppavilion[1][0]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437552297 873803 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437552390 558734 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-143-158.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1437553658 696486 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1437555045 87028 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so CPT-invariant thermodynamics is trippy < 1437555050 982771 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but CP-invariant thermodynamics is bizarre < 1437555475 387948 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which type of CPT-invariant termodynamics? the one that blames the edge conditions for low entropy? < 1437556287 258601 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437556839 352296 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can GCC optimize a multiplication of a boolean by a number? < 1437556872 64152 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1437556884 374600 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, that should either be 0 or an unspecified number? < 1437556893 317594 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not sure if such an optimization is valid < 1437556913 937372 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say, if you're working with unsigned 16-bit ints < 1437556937 270290 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most boolean operations are 0 or 1 < 1437556953 90086 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, it's actually unspecified, I think < 1437556955 436399 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Some might not be though) < 1437557086 702105 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I know it is 0 or 1 if the built-in operators (not functions) are used, it seem to be. But in BASIC and Forth it is 0 and -1 instead. < 1437557259 766780 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even in case where it is unspecified, you can guarantee to be zero if the second number is also zero. Possibly in a few cases this might be useful I don't quite know < 1437557274 742428 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: no, the general consequence of what happens to themodynamics under the T symmetry < 1437557278 745463 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it flip, or does it not? < 1437557349 408798 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it flips, that provides a potential explanation of the abundance of matter (it's thermodynamically favourable for antimatter to turn into matter, but not vice versa) < 1437557352 401594 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1437557359 316335 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it implies that in general, antimatter is not entropic but syntropic < 1437557393 360295 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd /tmp && echo 'unsigned f(unsigned a, unsigned b) { return (a==b)*b; }' > bmul.c && gcc bmul.c -c -g -O3 -march=native && objdump -d bmul.o < 1437557408 937137 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if thermodynamics does not flip, then antimatter is entropic, which means that the universe as a whole does not obey CPT symmetry, raising two questions: what will replace QFT for the theory of everything, since QFT can't violate CPT symmetry, and why does the arrow of time exist? < 1437557427 875440 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ bmul.o: file format elf64-x86-64 \ \ \ Disassembly of section .text: \ \ 0000000000000000 : \ 0: 31 c0 xor %eax,%eax \ 2: 39 f7 cmp %esi,%edi \ 4: 0f 94 c0 sete %al \ 7: 0f af c6 imul %esi,%eax \ a: c3 retq < 1437557454 736896 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, this gcc does not. < 1437557465 88643 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntropic antimatter also raises the question of whether or not you can convey information backwards in time using it < 1437557476 422592 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd /tmp && echo 'unsigned f(unsigned a, unsigned b) { return a==b? b : 0; }' > bmul.c && gcc bmul.c -c -g -O3 -march=native && objdump -d bmul.o < 1437557479 583354 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it would obey retrocausality, not causality < 1437557483 774033 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ bmul.o: file format elf64-x86-64 \ \ \ Disassembly of section .text: \ \ 0000000000000000 : \ 0: 89 f0 mov %esi,%eax \ 2: 39 f7 cmp %esi,%edi \ 4: ba 00 00 00 00 mov $0x0,%edx \ 9: 0f 45 c2 cmovne %edx,%eax \ c: c3 retq < 1437557922 364651 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Clang does though < 1437557935 100247 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`clang < 1437557936 363293 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: clang: not found < 1437557946 776127 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tcc < 1437557947 385715 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: tcc: not found < 1437558101 173883 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1437558532 472521 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437558634 605020 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437558657 914515 :llue!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437558658 129523 :llue!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1437558658 183761 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437558806 374518 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437559203 311709 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1437559230 356427 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437559230 410668 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1437559230 410733 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437559268 34495 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you access memory usage data including buffer/cache in Linux without parsing the /proc/meminfo file? < 1437560046 335098 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437560111 213758 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you can be root and parse all the /proc/$pid/smaps files instead < 1437560191 673602 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437560208 497777 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1437560302 47033 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean don't parsing any file < 1437560312 856586 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nor the output of the free command) < 1437560391 954673 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did look at the source-codes of how it is implemented in /proc/meminfo it says cached = global_page_state(NR_FILE_PAGES) - total_swapcache_pages() - i.bufferram; < 1437560437 524450 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: does sysinfo() miss anything you need? < 1437560452 458158 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it misses the cache memory amount < 1437560507 357674 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437561191 47174 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: apart from directly accessing the memory usage data, you can try running the "free" or "top" programs. < 1437561282 375240 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but those programs probably actually get most of their data from /proc files on Linux < 1437561311 525349 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to tell Firefox to display the percent-encodings of Unicode characters in the location bar rather than the characters themself? < 1437561327 7043 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: apart from that, you can try using the sysinfo() system call, which gives some memory usage statistics data < 1437561364 705596 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes but sysinfo() doesn't have the cache amount < 1437561479 346017 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: as for that, I think if you copy the url to the clipboard (eg. by pressing control-L control-C ), it copies the original version with percent encodes. < 1437561516 83849 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I know, but I want it to display the percent encodings all the time < 1437561559 534070 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: For details like that I think parsing /proc is the only way to go in user space. Alternatively you can write a kernel module to get a more machine-readable form < 1437561700 203359 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't know how to do that then. Maybe there's some well-hidden setting or a firefox extension that does that. < 1437561967 666079 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want the status bar also to display percent encodings < 1437563093 509593 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I think I found the problem, it is a function called "losslessDecodeURI" in browser.js, but I am not sure how to override it (in userChrome.js) < 1437563150 252661 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a proof that brainfuck is NOT turing complete with only two (unbounded) cells? < 1437563738 628536 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437563997 757278 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: KERNED CHICKEN < 1437564781 786900 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to fix that function, it is not so difficult to fix. I did: window.losslessDecodeURI=function(aURI) { return aURI.spec; }; < 1437564798 956202 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1437565100 4147 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437565154 931944 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably true, but no one's made a proof yet < 1437565363 515315 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you should try to prove it by yourself. < 1437565390 948477 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1437565526 701100 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what kind of reduction would be used to prove it, since most lower computational classes are finite in some sense < 1437567841 639370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1437568520 403061 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437568746 754849 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437569015 717173 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1437570381 456581 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord. < 1437571139 703211 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437572038 707299 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437572411 48771 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437572635 300159 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1437572690 13013 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437572729 32216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1437573162 303307 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot where are you? < 1437573421 479628 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1437573778 257343 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1437573836 127957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437574332 242751 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1437574471 625776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1437574549 945555 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437575027 158799 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1437575103 930273 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437575780 142483 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437575849 204866 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is fungot. < 1437575849 962872 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: chipmunk says: nice job on ooe on c.l.s. right now i'm using cvs, but it's a pretty lowlevel basic right? < 1437575865 320016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: CVS, very retro. < 1437575865 525632 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it is quite unreadable...)) expression) < 1437576972 753045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1437576987 160568 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437577158 105957 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1437577173 462638 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437577343 937302 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437577799 456457 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437578097 382774 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wisdom from the neural net: < 1437578100 924431 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's not much for a turing complete IP to use somewhat bad parts, and then you will confuse every cpu call" < 1437578287 745613 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what input did you give it to produce that? < 1437578300 607687 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1437578315 215532 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437578316 191025 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's not actually a meaningful sentence, but it does look meaningful until you read it multiple times < 1437578317 227284 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's not actually a meaningful sentence, but it does look meaningful until you read it multiple times < 1437578332 587436 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The #esoteric IRC logs. < 1437578343 61116 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the ones for April and part of May, maybe? < 1437578401 996565 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: a finite state machine with access to a two-unbounded-cell brainfuck tape can simulate Fractran, so that would be Turing-complete. < 1437578421 892769 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if brainfuck with two unbounded cells is *not* Turing-complete, it must be because brainfuck's flow control isn't powerful enough. < 1437578487 911336 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437578488 463537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s universe wisdom/the\ universe < 1437578492 410436 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, oerjan proved that three cells was enough < 1437578494 333056 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437578507 498042 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I was wondering if it's possible to go deeper, so to speak < 1437578522 894608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/Go,/Go, the universe,/' wisdom/tanebvention < 1437578524 555600 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437578581 269223 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, you can't just arbitrarily declare Taneb to have invented arbitrary things < 1437578673 396497 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn fundamental theorem of Taneb/The Fundamental Theorem of Taneb states that for all strings S, if S describes a thing, then it is provable that Taneb invented the thing described by S; and, furthermore, that it is provable that there exists a string T that describes a thing that Taneb did not invent. < 1437578675 428796 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «fundamental theorem of taneb» < 1437578681 527390 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fundamental theorem of Taneb < 1437578682 797408 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Fundamental Theorem of Taneb states that for all strings S, if S describes a thing, then it is provable that Taneb invented the thing described by S; and, furthermore, that it is provable that there exists a string T that describes a thing that Taneb did not invent. < 1437578910 545048 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the Taneb version of omega-incompleteness? < 1437578913 176120 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437578917 365109 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if I have an omega on my compose key, I don't know where it is) < 1437578979 275577 :comodvs!~comodvs@unaffiliated/comodvs JOIN :#esoteric < 1437578985 825788 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's omega-incompleteness? < 1437578999 864756 :comodvs!~comodvs@unaffiliated/comodvs PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone here have The Book of Nymphs, Sylphs, Pygmies, and Salamanders by Paracelsus < 1437579065 416234 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome comodvs < 1437579066 759983 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :comodvs: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1437579079 493310 :comodvs!~comodvs@unaffiliated/comodvs PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you Taneb < 1437579110 264164 :comodvs!~comodvs@unaffiliated/comodvs PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm looking for this book all over the internet, but i can't find it in any place :/ < 1437579176 166147 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437579377 828386 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly the wrong #esoteric, hard to tell though < 1437579389 133180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: oh, I was thinking of omega-inconsistency < 1437579417 79471 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's where a proof system allows you to prove that a property is true for some number, but also allows you to prove it to be false for any specific number < 1437580088 470190 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inaccessible fungot. < 1437580088 887063 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: can i help you?. if you have " all permissions"? implementing them for some time, could you just send a /msg if you want something like this < 1437581129 927118 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1437581366 618974 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doink. In my client, ais523 and fungot's nicks have the same length and color, so I thought that ais523 said what fungot said. < 1437581366 928242 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: my own test cases with m-o c to send to a scheme simulator: i was reading it and pondering about iguanas...) < 1437581393 2112 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it looked pretty fungotty, so I figured maybe ais523 invoked fungot privately and then just pasted fungot's response to the channel. < 1437581393 244647 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: stop being an associative list. but that's just to annoy sonera disconnects me? < 1437581464 364579 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is tswett being an associative list again < 1437581481 489510 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you're in the UK now, Sonera can't disconnect you. < 1437581481 631183 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: would i? :d < 1437581483 440548 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm: sorry; I: can't help it; < 1437581533 877767 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote tswett: stop being an associative list. [...] is tswett being an associative list again I'm: sorry; I: can't help it; < 1437581534 203675 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm just a mere functionary who knows how that happens, matters, unless humans start pursuing and succeed in the turing test...) < 1437581536 10337 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1249) tswett: stop being an associative list. [...] is tswett being an associative list again I'm: sorry; I: can't help it; < 1437581639 728452 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungotionary, the herald of the turing test < 1437581639 934735 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: take it up the ass. boxes are as bad as last time we did this using the above formula as 0 1 2 3)) < 1437581710 517554 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that aspect of human behaviour is exercised by the test. < 1437581740 548804 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lessee if I can find that list of bot prefixes. < 1437581742 621934 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? prefixes < 1437581745 287342 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prefixes? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1437581753 349768 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bots < 1437581754 85021 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bots? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1437581757 764484 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes < 1437581757 818865 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , blsqbot ! < 1437581766 764825 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go. < 1437581803 460217 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if lambdabot also responds to its name. < 1437581805 965824 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: type 5 < 1437581812 345884 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps... < 1437581815 801550 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @type 5 < 1437581816 805822 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Num a => a < 1437581838 989600 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda... useless. < 1437581921 231110 :juzo!~canaima@186.167.242.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437581974 215071 :juzo!~canaima@186.167.242.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola < 1437581999 741050 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hola. < 1437582004 980018 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido < 1437582007 580741 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en EFnet o DALnet.) < 1437582021 75695 :juzo!~canaima@186.167.242.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :como estan todos < 1437582024 707031 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pero yo hablo español un poco. < 1437582029 502135 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Estoy bien. < 1437582047 113953 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy hell, why do you need so many bots? < 1437582064 902747 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't need this many, but there are a bunch of programmers here < 1437582067 90175 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it just tends to happen < 1437582074 701903 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1437582075 114354 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :often we just write the bots for the sake of something to write < 1437582081 848746 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and most of them aren't connected at any given moment in time) < 1437582089 93784 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No los *necesitamos*, pero nos gustan. < 1437582094 501509 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437582106 51736 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :x10A94, we don't have that many, just fungot EgoBot glogbot HackEgo lambdabot idris-bot j-bot zemhill__ and half of myndzi < 1437582106 105878 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: " fnord" either, but i < 1437582108 590160 :juzo!~canaima@186.167.242.47 PART :#esoteric < 1437582121 252602 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you forgot about clog and glogbot < 1437582125 431452 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that's understandable because they don't talk < 1437582127 863097 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I got glogbot < 1437582128 487378 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just listen < 1437582129 898360 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1437582131 48160 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did forget clog < 1437582142 103765 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pues, voy a ducharme. Hasta pronto. < 1437582143 110380 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, we're at less than 10% bot < 1437582145 752646 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed that forgetting one would make you forget the other < 1437582151 349381 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when was cmeme last here, btw? < 1437582172 96152 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I tend to use glogbot's logs and not clog's logs < 1437582194 242793 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, I can't wait to get autochat9000 in here. < 1437582202 788892 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One sec, lemme register that nick. < 1437582207 444727 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should resurrect pietbot < 1437582215 149590 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did pietbot ever end up in-channel? < 1437582217 9690 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 QUIT :Changing host < 1437582217 64041 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett JOIN :#esoteric < 1437582221 357089 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett NICK :autochat9000 < 1437582230 975546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a huge urge to resurrect thutubot, but it was fun for a while < 1437582231 322661 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes < 1437582233 173578 :autochat9000!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett NICK :tswett < 1437582239 135465 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never actually said anything < 1437582239 269503 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, in terms of bots we actually /need < 1437582244 369783 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*/need/ < 1437582255 965805 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could connect, register with nickserv, join the channel, idle until commanded to do something, then crash < 1437582263 942719 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or hang, I can't remember < 1437582270 402912 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably HackEgo + one logbot would be enough by itself (also, lambdabot is useful at the times this channel turns into a second #haskell rather than doing its day job) < 1437582277 712493 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to be fair, like three quarters of HackEgo is useless < 1437582287 73284 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a bunch of useful stuff got copied there too < 1437582291 624754 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the useless stuff is used more often though < 1437582348 242049 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'bienvenido | rainwords' > bin/arienvenido && chmod +x bin/arienvenido < 1437582350 47865 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437582362 807508 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh, as you were < 1437582383 533174 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: :-( < 1437582399 276841 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that's wrong < 1437582405 157188 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how often do we need a rainbow-coloured welcome in Spanish? answer: even less often than we need a rainbow-coloured welcome in English, which is never < 1437582410 43460 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'bienvenido "$@" | rainwords' > bin/arienvenido && chmod +x bin/arienvenido < 1437582412 28116 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437582437 74034 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a cinema to get to < 1437582445 965020 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember when the topic was the "The international hub…" one for months or years at a time < 1437582455 134029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the ontopic discussion happened more often and was more interesting < 1437582462 463621 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the offtopic discussion was terrible and made you not want to be here at all < 1437582472 640610 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: FWIW, Freenode recommends you register bots with a separate NickServ account: https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup step #6: "The exception to this is where you might want to run a bot. You should register a separate account for your bot." < 1437582476 181875 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowadays the offtopic discussion is mostly inoffensive and the ontopic discussion is much less of a draw < 1437582537 536931 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I tried proving that two-cell brainfuck is decidable but lost interest < 1437582559 107404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :two-cell bignum, I take it < 1437582579 535871 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: *nod* Do you know why that is? < 1437582594 446412 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there ever a benefit to an unbalanced loop in that language? < 1437582597 330188 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea I had was that each loop leaves one cell zero, so one could try to squeeze this into a pushdown automaton stack < 1437582613 954088 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I imagine so that you don't get spammed with "someone is connecting from your account" messages when you're online at the same time as the bot < 1437582627 952807 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so that a malfunctioning bot can be banned without affecting its owner < 1437582629 430837 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I saw some rationale somewhere, but it was more about if your bot is misbehaving it being not tied to your account so much. < 1437582632 456963 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1437582679 905451 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And maybe also to not make your channel-operatory privileges available to someone who can take control of the bot. < 1437582687 266579 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also not clear whether it could be more powerful if <> didn't wrap around or if - on a zero cell has no effect < 1437582757 261541 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1437582764 141410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with 2-cell BF, you can do a "multiply by constant" operation < 1437582774 115853 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on one of the cells, while the other is zero < 1437582779 870238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a known path to infinite storage < 1437582791 749474 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is if you can do the corresponding "check for divisibility < 1437582793 341449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1437582799 423665 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's needed to make use of the info < 1437582801 642442 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two-counter minsky machines have a conditional branch though < 1437582811 939287 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the problem here is that the loops are nested < 1437582813 933584 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why this problem is interesting, I suppose < 1437582829 319828 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I'm reminded of that BF variant I made with an ambiguously spelled name < 1437582843 263871 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's also almost certainly TC if it has goto < 1437582851 178402 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the fact that loops need to nest makes things interesting < 1437582865 117980 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the two might be equivalent, actually) < 1437582911 777206 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1437583006 863253 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437583468 128794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1437583713 956533 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437584664 544013 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-143-158.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1437584752 826908 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1437585477 738309 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437585508 41130 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1437585563 272309 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437585748 622902 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437586192 273465 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437586499 222495 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437586561 292466 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :global notices have typos in nowadays? :-D < 1437586646 329953 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :lulz < 1437586729 578503 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've noticed that Brits can say "in" where we Americans would have to say "in them" or "in it". < 1437586767 498872 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an elision, which were always /technically/ legal but mostly only used in poetry < 1437586772 29315 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one's been catching on though < 1437586789 874217 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think for me, "in" implies that it's the sort of thing which is inserted and removed on a regular basis. < 1437586806 957285 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1437586825 442792 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 saw what I said and immediately ragequit. < 1437586858 321206 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can say "a VCR with a tape in", or "a gun with bullets in", but not "a notice with typos in". < 1437586911 966498 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437586912 703245 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come to think of it, you can't say "a glass with water in" either. < 1437586943 72114 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless it has some special compartment for water which is separate from the main part of the glass. < 1437587016 460638 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1437587288 374629 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437587329 193710 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437588519 649505 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1437589237 116232 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437589255 956226 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437590197 406232 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437590274 324245 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1437590279 361596 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: You on? < 1437590442 318953 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently not < 1437590448 765456 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1437590461 347334 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437590496 265616 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi ais523 < 1437590511 848470 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb me ;-) < 1437590892 63387 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MOISC14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43568 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+890) 10Created Page < 1437591094 622236 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar lowi < 1437591094 964141 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 221820Z 27014KT 9999 FEW070CB SCT085 BKN140 21/18 Q1015 NOSIG < 1437591307 790952 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So in other news, I'm making a simple assembly language for use by educational institutions teaching Compiler Design < 1437591454 912792 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? spim < 1437591457 439773 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPIM Pretends It's MIPS < 1437591642 734517 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if anyone wants to help... < 1437591720 753106 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1: because there aren't enough of those already < 1437591732 900923 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There probably are :P < 1437591750 489735 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never heard of one, but now that you mention it there are probably thousands < 1437591761 422362 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MMIX < 1437591763 138859 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for starters < 1437591774 647584 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm doing this for fun, mostly < 1437591799 667071 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it'll come with some bonus stuff < 1437591826 257623 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like an uber-IDE and curricula < 1437591906 552708 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And docs on Optimization < 1437591921 363250 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And all these nice things < 1437592416 720466 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1437592433 890413 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437592471 293761 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437592918 256436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1437592997 49658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut, the logs have a reasonably correct clock < 1437593159 505537 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437593303 815855 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1437593322 365804 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437593705 234845 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437593831 244694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1437593848 615367 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437594062 220285 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inconceivable! < 1437594181 844338 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there program it can helping you to make command-line version of many websites? < 1437594918 582434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i know, right? < 1437594947 169691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the codu logs. i haven't checked tunes. < 1437595195 718617 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437595207 521677 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1437596260 268483 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1437596677 779291 :pseudomyne!~user@ACaen-156-1-69-117.w90-51.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1437596793 650104 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437596999 849347 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437598731 330728 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437599022 305860 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437599267 853208 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1437599322 666517 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437599526 895540 :pseudomyne!~user@ACaen-156-1-69-117.w90-51.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437600405 328955 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437600536 928918 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437601016 652131 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gshiwkyfdamnuhdp QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1437601053 24841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm so here is my "ideal" made-up-on-the-spot system. It somewhat combines all of 2, 3 and 4 from https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/Commentary/Compiler/GenericDeriving#InteractionwithGeneralizedNewtypeDeriving. It is intended to be backwards-compatible, except for one added warning. < 1437601057 988555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* By 3, classes may be annotated (pragma?) to say they prefer GND or DAC deriving. Builtin-derived classes count as annotated for their own style of deriving. To actually derive a class in a module, any extension for the derivation style still needs to be enabled as well. < 1437601062 28347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* By 4, if `GeneralizedNewtypeDeriving` is enabled, the `newtype` keyword may be used to signify that an instance for a newtype should be GND derived, even if this is against the annotated behavior for the class. This might even include builtin-derived classes like `Show`. (Obviously not `Typeable`, though.) < 1437601066 980797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Also by 4, if both `GeneralizedNewtypeDeriving` and `DeriveAnyClass` are enabled (or for least surprise, maybe even with just the latter), the `default` keyword may be used to signify that an instance for a newtype should ''not'' be GND-derived, even if this is the annotated behavior for the class. < 1437601071 962972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* By 2, if ''neither'' the newtype deriving nor the class is annotated, then the behavior depends on which of `GeneralizedNewtypeDeriving` and `DeriveAnyClass` is enabled. If ''both'' are enabled, then a ''warning'' should be given. (This prevents surprises when a user adds both extensions for unrelated instances.) Then it defaults to DAC as today. < 1437601076 976799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Although the proper extensions need to be enabled for whichever annotations/derivation styles end up being used, the ''only'' case where simply changing the extensions enabled will change code from one legal style of derivation to another should be the one in the previous point. (And thus the warning.) < 1437601082 18257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :As of now, I don't remember any classes with builtin-derivations that also are useful with `DeriveAnyClass`. So I think there isn't much need to be able to distinguish those two cases. Which also means that none of this matters to `data` declarations, only `newtype`. < 1437601085 968108 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh wtf < 1437601086 75687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you all got to read me latest ghc trac post hth < 1437601112 608820 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION belatedly shortens clipboard < 1437601127 630298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*m < 1437601129 591788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*my < 1437601157 694060 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, anyone awake, anyway. < 1437601176 461854 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to be < 1437601185 637127 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ant-Man was good on a second watch < 1437601194 617845 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks watch < 1437601195 239681 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, watch. Thatch. < 1437601205 229726 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? watch < 1437601206 371352 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :watch? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1437601212 497625 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks watcher < 1437601213 435865 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, watcher. Thatcher. < 1437601223 659245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i was just thinking i shouldn't do that < 1437601231 47339 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn watch Too late! < 1437601233 175999 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «watch too late!» < 1437601239 167346 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1437601240 390428 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1437601258 161417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i though `le/rn had got that bug fixed... < 1437601266 926995 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1437601270 147682 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn watch/Too late! < 1437601274 427812 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «watch» < 1437601313 445755 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/watch Too late! < 1437601313 995299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? watch too late! < 1437601314 81747 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `wisdom/watch Too late!': No such file or directory < 1437601314 878219 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :watch Too late! < 1437601315 838955 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437601335 323356 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/watch too late! < 1437601338 890612 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437601384 585417 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? canary < 1437601385 473738 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spjong < 1437601392 678565 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I think I might get how the four ends work. in the song, it's mentioned that depending on who you are, hänsel appears holding either a knife or a bottle, and either as an angel or a mad familiar. maybe which of the four ends happens depends on the person? < 1437601421 895057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'Spjætt!' >canary < 1437601423 846512 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437601470 531962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those were interjections i remember from a norwegian translation of bloom county (or outland) hth < 1437601592 664698 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1437601686 150825 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437601719 484433 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl NICK :mauris < 1437601858 249269 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-elwliqgdpasbaago JOIN :#esoteric < 1437601980 276985 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 1a'[[ "$1" = */* ]] || exit' bin/slashlearn < 1437601982 64679 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437602023 250430 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn no slash test < 1437602024 587 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437602068 703613 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn /no keyword test < 1437602069 500124 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437602092 718790 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :slashlearn is scow anyway < 1437602095 832231 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no test for lack of content < 1437602097 234663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/mk is the future < 1437602107 507135 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437602112 625199 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: in your dreams! < 1437602121 101622 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though mk also has this issue. < 1437602147 467229 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/mk < 1437602148 102285 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[[ "$1" == *//* ]] || exit 1; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; echo "$value" > "$key" && echo "$key" < 1437602158 648808 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently not < 1437602170 637753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bohily < 1437602174 134323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1437602176 388041 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(why did I read the bash manpage to find [[ ]] when I could've looked there? < 1437602178 334468 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1437602195 859651 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk //hi < 1437602196 465921 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/mk: line 1: : No such file or directory < 1437602302 964226 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably you could test for ?*//* < 1437602354 977741 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably < 1437602375 711065 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/\*/?*/' bin/mk < 1437602377 440394 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437602381 38808 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mk //hi < 1437602381 599049 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437602386 562409 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's something. < 1437602628 591826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Is there a proof that brainfuck is NOT turing complete with only two (unbounded) cells? <-- hm it _should_ be possibly to deduce from the presumably known fact that a minsky inc/dec machine with 1 cell is not TC < 1437602659 581693 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, isn't that a push-down automaton < 1437602666 996109 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :known to be sub-TC < 1437602687 39050 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: um i'm not sure, i just assume it's known and stuff < 1437602705 890749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since otherwise, why would they keep blathering about the 2-cell one. < 1437602720 838023 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan! < 1437602729 808110 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's unclear... a 2 counter minsky machine is TC, and the proof I know works by simultating a 3 counter machine by dealing with numbers 2^a 3^b 5^c < 1437602748 51618 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and 3 counters are good for two stacks, hence a tape) < 1437602766 834916 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i'm talking about _1_-cell without multiplication or division < 1437602779 137868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um for minsky < 1437602787 451481 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 1 cell isn't even a push-down automaton < 1437602795 818408 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, can you @tell me the answer? I'm going to bed now < 1437602811 571863 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well... it is a degenerated one, I guess that's what Taneb meant...) < 1437602812 112630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no. < 1437602825 482201 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1437602826 548223 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry. < 1437602839 518266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well my point is that i think 2-cell bf is reducible to 1-cell minsky after a terminating starting phase. < 1437602849 644709 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dontaskdonttaneblist < 1437602867 497112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :namely, run it until you leave a loop for the first time < 1437602868 137089 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know. For brainfuck, you need to be very precise about the rules of stepping over the tape boundaries, I think < 1437602873 746038 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i `dontaskdontbidlist < 1437602897 50184 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(alternatively until you get to an infinite innermost loop) < 1437602930 91940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you've left a loop, you're always in a state where one cell is _known_ to have a finite set of possible values. < 1437602940 832965 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if you can stop off the tape, reading zeros, but not being allowed to modify the cells, then you can encode some finite state information in the pointer. < 1437602949 671300 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/stop/step/ < 1437602950 619284 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Giargiano 5* 10New user account < 1437602981 25853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: um, 2 cells. you can assuming the tape wraps if you want. < 1437603046 381541 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i think that's rather useless since the fs info has to be lost before you can change a cell again... < 1437603062 108509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you cannot loop in an all-zero region < 1437603063 415294 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be precise enough. and in that case I think it's strictly more powerful than a minsky machine with a single counter (for example, you can multiply a given input by 2), but I do believe it's not TC. < 1437603102 191847 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437603120 690544 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Randwork14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43569&oldid=25072 5* 03Giargiano 5* (+88) 10+Perl interpreter < 1437603361 713305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm that step-off-the tape thing is subtle, because you can use it to escape loops. < 1437603409 566066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that's very in the spirit of what Taneb is asking, though. < 1437603432 167154 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Randwork14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43570&oldid=43569 5* 03Giargiano 5* (+22) 10/* External resources */ < 1437604906 401095 :newbie|2!~comodvs@189-105-238-205.user.veloxzone.com.br JOIN :#esoteric < 1437605083 446737 :comodvs!~comodvs@unaffiliated/comodvs QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1437605316 465313 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of a new kind of package manager idea, where each package except anonymous packages are identified by URI (used only for identification and does not necessarily ahve to point to anything), categories of packages are themself virtual packages, there is a local root package whose specification is specifying which packages are installed, and that you can also load packages from stdin and emit packages to stdout, so it can act as a filter too. < 1437605662 925340 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relation of packages might be: "X requires Y", "X suggests Y", "X is a version of Y", "X is a substitute for Y". Packages can also have custom properties that any package that substitutes for it or is a version of it must override. Virtual packages are allowed to be named or anonymous, and you can't really install/uninstall it rather it determine automatically if it is considered installed or not by its specification. < 1437605878 704608 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In order to avoid entering the entire URI for each package you can define a prefix by the package manager's "add-prefix" command. < 1437605880 300201 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437605902 456011 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437606188 105925 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437606310 358950 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other relations can be defined using the existing ones. The virtual package specifications might include: any of X, all of X, none of X. Therefore a "X conflicts with Y" relation might be noted by: X :requires [ :not Y ] < 1437606389 257882 :mihow!~mihow@18.sub-70-199-175.myvzw.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437606701 466912 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually the way I mentioned custom property isn't quite best way, I think; a better way is: A package can specify which custom properties must be overridden by packages with the specified relation to this package. For example if the root package has a custom property for a configuration path and it specifies that any package that depends on it must override it, then the root package depends on that package and the root package will specify the conf < 1437606747 778854 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a package is installed only due to requirement from some other package, then the root package does not depend on it and therefore it can know to uninstall when not needed. < 1437606924 183704 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do other package managers use a "root package" like this? < 1437606960 296459 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This would also easily allow you to make packages that can be installed for individual users because each user can also have their own root package too. < 1437607198 772868 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your opinions of all of these things? < 1437607301 120345 :mihow!~mihow@18.sub-70-199-175.myvzw.com QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437607416 876533 :mihow!~mihow@18.sub-70-199-175.myvzw.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437607559 64309 :mihow!~mihow@18.sub-70-199-175.myvzw.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1437607586 414689 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437607586 469054 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 QUIT :Changing host < 1437607586 469125 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1437607643 802936 :mihow!~mihow@18.sub-70-199-175.myvzw.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437607780 492342 :mihow!~mihow@18.sub-70-199-175.myvzw.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1437608031 707276 :mihow!~mihow@18.sub-70-199-175.myvzw.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437608258 298767 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437608716 125107 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ordering of versions numbers, including possible of breaking compatibility, can be specified using the stuff I have mentioned so far! (Do you see how?) < 1437608906 91249 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437609193 87883 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437609297 888696 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the thing still not mentioned yet is for a virtual package's criteria to check for values of custom-properties, for example you might have a "FamicomVM" virtual package; packages that substitute for it (i.e. FamicomVM implementations, or NES/Famicom emulators) must override custom-properties to indicate mapper and input device implementations, and a game might specify a dependency on a virtual package which requires iNES mapper #0 and keyboard e < 1437609549 702950 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I believe that is all of the stuff you will need, isn't it? < 1437609660 27753 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist PART #esoteric :"WeeChat 1.2" < 1437609836 775761 :mihow!~mihow@18.sub-70-199-175.myvzw.com QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437610067 286871 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437610124 972627 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437610335 305248 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437610443 332506 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437610685 79386 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1437611039 923945 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437612003 315248 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1437613416 385744 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437613641 709927 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1437613642 16746 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 230100Z 30008KT 15SM BKN075 BKN100 20/12 A2978 RMK AC6AC1 SLP083 DENSITY ALT 800FT < 1437613652 849558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1437613653 161115 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 230050Z 12005KT 9999 SCT019 BKN034 11/10 Q1007 RMK WIND 670FT 16005KT < 1437613658 55003 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :11? < 1437613660 629782 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10?!?!? < 1437613673 832885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waves from the north < 1437613813 821218 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION prefers his own north < 1437614192 837294 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437614255 870681 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:818c:57ec:4ae8:4900 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437614489 51491 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonne ørjanuit! try not to freeze off too much! < 1437614504 629250 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: HYPOGLYCEMIC CHICKEN < 1437614847 478216 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYVR < 1437614847 923003 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYVR 230100Z 21007KT 30SM FEW045TCU FEW075 OVC250 20/12 A2988 RMK TCU1AC1CS6 SLP117 DENSITY ALT 600FT < 1437615068 290897 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1437615148 610015 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1437615561 476688 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On this computer I cannot access the CPU/power/disk/etc temperatures from Linux, only the CMOS setting menu can access it < 1437616419 644030 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437616800 648503 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suppose you have C, but with a completely different standard library. < 1437616872 276281 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK what kind of completely different standard library is it? < 1437616886 704636 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :would that be a C variant or would it not qualify as C. < 1437616906 289535 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know for sure? < 1437616933 93124 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the C spec say that, for example, there must be a funcion called malloc with such and such semantics? < 1437617375 316393 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the C spec has provisions for a "freestanding environment", so it would still be C < 1437617508 651857 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1437617548 645397 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437617810 633457 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437618390 227813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1437618683 500322 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1437619427 97033 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1437621189 458570 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1437621200 920319 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :and < 1437621206 16433 :and!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1437621280 940048 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437621541 922374 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437621648 410121 :newbie|2!~comodvs@189-105-238-205.user.veloxzone.com.br QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437623790 359906 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437625003 854624 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437625054 148776 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric < 1437625120 24356 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1437625536 711032 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Now with extra fish! < 1437626165 644879 :password2!~password@197.77.59.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437626208 413763 :password2!~password@197.77.59.90 PART :#esoteric < 1437626290 533903 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03966 5* 10New user account < 1437626339 297953 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437626400 325990 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437626840 585930 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fixed utftovlq and made a man page too < 1437626915 970097 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/OcXA http://sprunge.us/bCYf < 1437627178 888575 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1437628033 375472 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :god damn it what are all these stupid forms < 1437628063 519596 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do I have to fill out a million forms?!!? < 1437628371 280912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No forms. < 1437628634 678130 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437628770 561790 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why does the bank kkep asking me about all this bullshit? I just want to keep my money, all in one damn bank account, end of! < 1437628879 958221 :nam3!~nam3@cpe-70-125-196-56.rgv.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437628910 553619 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437629237 862693 :nam3!~nam3@cpe-70-125-196-56.rgv.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437630223 421342 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1437630307 84442 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1437630436 522233 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thought utftovlq was rot13 for a few seconds < 1437630583 86160 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437630650 855929 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:818c:57ec:4ae8:4900 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437630668 881960 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it is a viable option to put all my money in my dad's account and let him deal with all this crap < 1437630748 293048 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just put it in my account and i'll deal with it for you hth < 1437630909 733505 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. seriously how do I get them to stop sending me emails about their "mutual funds" < 1437631008 767989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Click the unsubscribe link? < 1437631043 429463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe put a bunch of money into their mutual funds. They're sure to stop bugging you if you do that. < 1437631262 623174 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found it. the unsubscribe is not on the email itself but in yor settings after you log in < 1437631328 967338 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid online banking. I want a goblin to hand me my money. < 1437631428 201058 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: have you considered putting your money into my mutual funds? hth < 1437632152 860055 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Well, it is not ROT13 (although, with a proper translation file you can make ROT13 with it) < 1437632329 820812 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437632598 783017 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437632939 884134 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437633744 330788 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437634937 580636 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437635904 332113 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-rxaxqwoqsvthvldj QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437635942 309075 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ahfdqejhjagqwthu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437637303 432635 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437637347 623867 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason we blow up fireworks on the 4th of July isn't for celebration its to scare the founding fathers and stop them from rising from their grave to feed off the flesh of the free < 1437637374 12820 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True facts < 1437637839 995369 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guy Fawkes night is similar in the UK < 1437637873 187257 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does amuse me that we have a bonfire night and fireworks display every year to celebrate the foiling of a terrorist plot < 1437637881 931305 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1437637887 321164 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guy Fawkes night < 1437637890 49671 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that truly a thing < 1437637895 469314 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guy ferrari? < 1437637909 763136 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437637910 897882 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Celebrates the foiling of the Gunpowder Plot of 1605 < 1437637914 343463 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's a food terrorist < 1437637919 286863 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Omfg 1605 < 1437637922 791888 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guy Fieri is a different guy altogether < 1437637932 25878 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those gosh darn explosives < 1437637973 593310 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, a bunch of catholic terrorists decided to blow the Houses of Parliament up, and King James I of England and VI of Scotland with it < 1437638055 15822 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And were foiled because one of them wrote a letter warning one of his friends to stay away that day < 1437638068 456625 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437638096 553736 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437638175 134594 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437638209 521427 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437638438 149303 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-143-158.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1437638444 363873 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb < 1437638448 27771 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :please < 1437638453 271065 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This can't be < 1437638461 616029 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a well known thing in England < 1437638463 923036 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a source < 1437638471 639434 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_Plot < 1437638522 712156 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have something to ask/tell you later taneb < 1437638525 993955 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So be ready < 1437638556 479940 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walpurgisnacht, it's a good thing lambdabot has @ask and @tell commands, so if I'm not active you can send me a message into the future! < 1437638569 934328 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1437638628 446082 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you expertise in computer wise/programming wise Taneb < 1437638659 513620 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functional programming, I guess?? I'm really more on the path to becoming a mathematician < 1437638707 883436 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good Good < 1437638734 502542 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what fields of math or general math as it were < 1437638763 38841 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because there are a lot of fields so I want to rework my Question so its based on that field < 1437638789 547550 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, just go with what you are most comfortable with < 1437638794 58809 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reasonably adaptable < 1437638815 450979 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna head to work now, see you later! < 1437638822 554036 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1437638825 469774 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good day < 1437639201 301373 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437639722 395755 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is a renaissance man < 1437639726 553971 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1437639729 94765 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Go, the universe, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, and this sentence. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1437639772 692740 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` fgrep -lr 'Taneb invented' wisdom < 1437639779 296284 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/stephen wolfram \ wisdom/chu space \ wisdom/automatic squirrel feeder \ wisdom/fundamental theorem of taneb \ wisdom/persistence \ wisdom/weetoflake \ wisdom/torus \ wisdom/d-module \ wisdom/this sentence < 1437639796 32952 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Go < 1437639796 836780 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go is a common verbal game programming language invented by the Germanic Taneb tribes in the strategic territories of East Asia. < 1437639872 721693 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? metro < 1437639873 501742 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :metro? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1437639971 783363 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-143-158.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437640243 973094 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1437640562 502650 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437640590 579890 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437640678 951321 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1437641448 512946 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1437641499 48310 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-143-158.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1437642034 90585 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437642070 989225 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1437642187 47796 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1437642393 979440 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437642646 899883 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437642763 401738 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fundamental theorem of taneb < 1437642764 132279 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Fundamental Theorem of Taneb states that for all strings S, if S describes a thing, then it is provable that Taneb invented the thing described by S; and, furthermore, that it is provable that there exists a string T that describes a thing that Taneb did not invent. < 1437643113 147242 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord. < 1437643925 312738 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1437644404 106670 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Did Tennessee the heaven hurt when you fell from the it < 1437645607 46759 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1437645757 330498 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437646570 419069 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437647215 977209 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( 'METRO' is a meteorological recording organization (see also: METAR) ) < 1437647278 201897 :pseudomyne!~user@ACaen-156-1-83-65.w90-51.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1437647484 861442 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-urfvdsnwrhicltkn PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 💬💭 < 1437647486 468443 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F4AC SPEECH BALLOON \ UTF-8: f0 9f 92 ac UTF-16BE: d83ddcac Decimal: 💬 \ 💬 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F4AD THOUGHT BALLOON \ UTF-8: f0 9f 92 ad UTF-16BE: d83ddcad Decimal: 💭 \ 💭 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1437647562 466412 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they're not combining < 1437648519 697726 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMBINING ENCLOSING KEYCAP < 1437648639 769093 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Press ↲⃣. < 1437648686 175194 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(My terminal seriously mangles that, but in the browser it's not that bad. < 1437648691 84958 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1437649003 457262 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooooh! a character I can see correctly! < 1437649484 856177 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437650007 180974 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437650687 344980 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-urfvdsnwrhicltkn PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 💮➿💢 < 1437650688 604438 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F4AE WHITE FLOWER \ UTF-8: f0 9f 92 ae UTF-16BE: d83ddcae Decimal: 💮 \ 💮 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+27BF DOUBLE CURLY LOOP \ UTF-8: e2 9e bf UTF-16BE: 27bf Decimal: ➿ \ ➿ \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F4A2 ANGER SYMBOL \ UTF-8: f0 9f 92 a2 UTF-16 < 1437650775 822911 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437650819 482889 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome x10A94 < 1437650820 415966 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02x10A94: 06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13EFnet 04or 07DALnet.) < 1437650973 318448 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: RAMBUNCTIOUS CHICKEN < 1437652024 346550 :pseudomyne!~user@ACaen-156-1-83-65.w90-51.abo.wanadoo.fr PART #esoteric :"ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)" < 1437653049 422800 :comodvs!~comodvs@unaffiliated/comodvs JOIN :#esoteric < 1437655080 259945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1437655739 1140 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the fnord that spits in your cereal in the morning. < 1437655770 615440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily i don't eat cereal *MWAHAHAHA* < 1437655897 773396 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :who needs breakfast anyway < 1437655929 871470 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a croissant this morning < 1437655932 488778 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :me hth < 1437655948 738231 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a croissant too < 1437655950 503105 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :spooky < 1437655956 846142 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lie i had two < 1437655968 746085 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1437655985 545548 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you trying to say you're better than me or something < 1437656001 523520 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I... had a *chocolate* croissant < 1437656008 101491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry, i had none. < 1437656020 852147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i have chocolate, so i can compensate. < 1437656055 146510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION in medias breakfast < 1437656099 503805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ate a piece of carrot cake, but not for breakfast. < 1437656112 759245 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ate a chocolate croissant. < 1437656131 660759 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and an M-Budget Energy Drink < 1437656149 929278 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric seems to be the channel of choice for chocolate croissant connoisseurs. < 1437656245 708644 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just had a plain croissant < 1437656278 627349 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1437656292 942778 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 utftovlq < 1437656293 504539 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hgsgbiyd < 1437656315 389569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly some mercurial subprogram. < 1437656344 753040 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it convert utf to vlq < 1437656365 892736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i think it brings us all doom through the singularity. < 1437656377 133007 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, OK < 1437656387 831891 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437656690 987012 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1437656824 864697 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really need to be less lazy < 1437656835 232646 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also remember to read the question in exams < 1437657550 273272 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1437657584 117775 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could have got 11 more percentage points if I had just read the question as "Recognizes the empty language" rather than "Recognizes a language which accepts the empty string" < 1437657791 572284 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1437657930 342798 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you have to define a something that does that thing? < 1437658284 255782 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437658301 938380 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Yes it can convert UTF to VLQ, that is one function it can be use < 1437658350 823419 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I had to show that it was undecidable < 1437659993 620183 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437660260 110136 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. E2EE is probably hard for group chats... < 1437660304 736479 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a scheme like diffie hellman that involves multiple participants? < 1437660348 642118 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still can't get over the proof i saw in a lecture that the word problem is decidable for hyperbolic groups < 1437660386 311011 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1437660399 235721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it an exaggerated proof < 1437660410 752727 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it nonconstructively proves that some TM exists that recognises trivial elements, but there's no reason to believe that finding that TM is computable < 1437661040 70476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1437661075 81151 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: you don't want a primitive scheme for that, but instead build a composite one from the trusted primitives < 1437661105 247343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :primitive trust < 1437663433 206933 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/cR6ropdk <- I'm a crazy or am I not. < 1437663541 537234 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not generic enough yet! < 1437663936 858275 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437664008 2707 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: That Java verbosity < 1437664072 588061 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/7iW6XTy3 <- much better < 1437664093 951365 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can even choose if it should join on the threads for the result list or not :) < 1437664219 272236 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1437664224 938350 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should probably do results.notify(); ? < 1437664236 799557 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can wait on the result list < 1437664255 770707 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ccwhpmibwxpijsqa QUIT : < 1437664325 860 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lwemagkbolfmmpwp JOIN :#esoteric < 1437664337 897925 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1437664372 135991 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. That way you can set join=false and then read the list with wait < 1437664399 376934 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still maintain that centaurs are insects < 1437664427 967389 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole thing looks like something you should be using Futures (for getting results) and Executors (for specifying the threading policy etc.) for. < 1437664697 212532 :supay!sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lwemagkbolfmmpwp PART :#esoteric < 1437664746 674183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: does that mean insectoid centaurs are spiders? < 1437664755 649154 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure < 1437664789 182042 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The definition of insect I learnt in first school was "6 limbs, three distinct body segments" < 1437664868 952407 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: This is more of a "broadcasting"-thingy actually < 1437664909 65736 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: Yes, but collect should return a CompletableFuture> and take an Executor on which to run the tasks. < 1437664921 287475 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I think it needs more bounded wildcards, because that's modern. Maybe you could manage to have addCallback take a Callable if you really try. < 1437664922 592574 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Executor isn't something you can repeatedly use for Callbacks? < 1437664943 810901 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm yeah < 1437664950 926264 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :collect could use Futures I guess < 1437664973 586016 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what? < 1437664977 289877 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would I want super/extends? < 1437664989 619168 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because then you have more freedom with what kind of callbacks you can pass, of course. < 1437664997 837579 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1437665005 2318 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're right. < 1437665228 67437 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ? super T looks suspicious < 1437665234 516451 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because then you can pass even Object? < 1437665256 659362 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it means you can pass in a Callable, which should be legal. < 1437665272 106453 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because a callback that takes an Object should be okay to use everywhere. < 1437665323 718944 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1437665349 849597 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is legal. < 1437665352 668307 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And vice versa for the return type -- with ? extends E, you can have a Callable and you can put its return value into List. Anyway. < 1437665357 642380 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1437665367 91280 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1437665372 987792 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would still get List back < 1437665412 728761 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can i.e. have a Callpool wich a Callable in it < 1437665420 713348 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and collect would return List in that case < 1437665461 330581 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/7iW6XTy3 <- like that < 1437665490 81962 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1437665491 244733 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong url < 1437665491 853330 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1437665526 283519 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/bGxtvZbj <- that one < 1437666960 912289 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-143-158.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1437667036 477406 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437667080 947435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1437667583 64054 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1437667584 704390 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437667920 192562 :ocharles_!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tbmkimiocsjpnlkz QUIT : < 1437667943 413796 :ocharles__!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gycwhbliucazrnlx JOIN :#esoteric < 1437668756 90728 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1437669530 101440 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1437669789 546206 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-elwliqgdpasbaago QUIT : < 1437670208 762017 :spiette!~spiette@207.107.241.212 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437670347 509362 :phelpsiv!~user@c-73-37-43-230.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 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:zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to install the section 3 man pages for X? < 1437683060 992400 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually maybe I found it now < 1437683081 318147 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437683572 910552 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07O14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43571&oldid=43567 5* 03Phase 5* (+52) 10link to online interpreter < 1437683831 475806 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437683936 297192 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437684191 750587 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437684288 297281 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437684893 364994 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1437684901 912902 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 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1437692111 455170 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437693358 850694 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-76-94.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1437693360 397335 :Slereah!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-52-104.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1437694376 335537 :qlkzy!~qlkzy@li559-28.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437694376 426611 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437694391 656985 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1437694644 133076 :qlkzy!~qlkzy@li559-28.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437695446 563608 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437696225 344500 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437696843 113209 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437696974 233898 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonnuily < 1437697028 936422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, why isn't that one word < 1437697421 482782 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437697717 974309 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do the mutations that cause cancer occur on a small enough scale that quantum randomness comes into play, or is it still large enough that it's more like physically rolling a dice, hard to tell what will happen but still deterministic? < 1437697722 544995 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good eving oerjan! < 1437697751 364118 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I'm pretty sure it must be the latter < 1437697832 905004 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because DNA and the proteins that manipulate it are very big molecules, at high temperature < 1437697935 232717 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437697979 105587 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they're immersed in water too, i don't see much chance of an isolated quantum thingy forming < 1437698028 322139 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about if it's caused by radiation? Would the radiation itself that caused the mutation likely have been random and might have missed? < 1437698029 961784 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonsørjair! < 1437698073 335590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1437698075 86057 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​̸̸̼͚͇̮͕̳̞̤̜̯̪̪̱̣̠̺̹͍̩̝͚͕͓͚̙͓̪̮̟̜̣͙̪̂ͭ̎̏̔ͦ͒ͪ͌̾ͦͨ̚̚͢͢͠ͅ҉̴̢_͙̣͎͎͙̪̪̝̖͉̟̭̻̥̫̗̱̗͍̳̦̮̟̲̥͔̿̊ͣ̉ͣͪ͒̓̐͊̏ͫ̓̚̚҉̕͜͠͠҉̡̧̛͞/̼͚͇̮͕̘̳̞̤̜̯̪̘̪̱̣̠̺̹͍̩̝͚͕͓͚̙͓̪̮̟̜̣͙̪̂ͭ̎̏̔ͦ͒ͪ͌̾ͦͨ̚̚͢͢͠ͅ҉̴̢_̿̊ͣ̉ͣͪ͒̓ < 1437698080 989718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi boily < 1437698086 733311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how'z jamz? < 1437698117 679614 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf! < 1437698125 370876 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from a free punk show downtown! < 1437698272 301278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: radioactive radiation is definitely quantum random < 1437698301 611617 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you a free punk < 1437698324 515304 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But would be impossible to know if a given cancer was caused by radioactive radiation or not < 1437698347 622809 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well duh < 1437698405 521498 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1437698410 912047 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: that would imply carcinogenic cancerous radioactive radiation. < 1437698427 417307 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: only when it comes to hot-dogs. < 1437698460 407703 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there were free hot-dogs. I had mine all dressed.) < 1437698484 917808 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if many-worlds is correct, there would be at least some "nearby" "universes"/"branches" where some people who got cancer did not, and some people who did not get cancer did < 1437698524 552163 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-15-138.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1437698562 797271 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-15-138.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1437698562 851538 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437698564 83406 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION drinks a can of nước yến ngân nhĩ < 1437698585 22323 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah. but if fatalism is correct, quantum random things only seem random. < 1437698614 288555 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope fatalism isn't correct. < 1437698624 115356 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't sound like a good outlook. < 1437698629 462104 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437698653 350651 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think sometimes I use it as a coping mechanism but that might be unhealthy < 1437698679 421892 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds fatal, in fact. That's the whole joke of what I'm saying. < 1437698679 524676 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, almost-fatalism, I exclude quantum random events that affect the macro world from it < 1437698692 279111 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not much content to it. Not that there was much content to the channel before. < 1437698758 294261 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there are some true but harmful beliefs. Imagine if someone died in an accident, and you can't stop thinking about how if you just did one little thing different they might still be alive. It's probably true, but that has to be mind destroying < 1437698911 276487 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: viet soda? < 1437698919 510559 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or viet beer? < 1437698939 498181 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, regardless of scientific reality, I think I have a WritingPrompt idea based on this, at least, although I've never done WritingPrompts before < 1437698947 980488 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437698953 366253 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although maybe not < 1437698955 385630 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1437699004 95034 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437699017 524384 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: viet soda. < 1437699159 8234 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there also was a viet sandwich along with it, but it mysteriously disappeared. < 1437699349 317091 :mihow!~mihow@173-164-76-214-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437699608 322275 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1437699609 427897 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :banach-tarski/"Banach-Tarski" is an anagram of "Banach-Tarski Banach-Tarski". < 1437699901 614885 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1437699902 556786 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat/Cats are cool, but should be illegal. < 1437699929 91733 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1437699930 6919 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :supermarioperator/supermarioperator is one of many confusing operators as defined in Control.Plumbers.Monad. Your sanity is in another castle. < 1437699944 100502 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits wisdom/supermarioperator < 1437699945 517638 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott boily < 1437699953 190316 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah? I wrote that? < 1437699978 612227 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/supermarioperator | grep summary: < 1437699979 523824 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: learn supermarioperator is one of many confusing operators as defined in Control.Plumbers.Monad. Your sanity is in another castle. < 1437700015 21559 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is. < 1437700056 671917 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1437700057 557569 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :marmite/Marmite is a group mind of fungal microorganisms spreading throughout the supermarkets of the Commonwealth. < 1437700498 899722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: clearly someone ran banach-tarski in reverse on your sandwich and another one < 1437700578 925167 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn supermarionation is another name for the mushroom kingdom < 1437700581 19693 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'supermarionation': supermarionation is another name for the mushroom kingdom < 1437700699 443461 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I miss the Thunderbirds... < 1437700791 588845 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437700831 105666 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/./' wisdom/supermarionation < 1437700832 575300 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437700894 922158 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: VOXEL CHICKEN < 1437701203 838326 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1437701410 260274 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist PART :#esoteric < 1437703006 65209 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437703485 537179 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Z? < 1437703859 4279 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1437704104 153725 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1437704414 280282 :mihow!~mihow@173-164-76-214-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437705355 838474 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:818c:57ec:4ae8:4900 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437706036 535350 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1437706712 329359 :mihow!~mihow@173-164-76-214-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437707251 601191 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp. < 1437707430 504853 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :one fifth of ottawa is cheating on their wives < 1437707459 221679 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grammar is weird. The statement "X died" makes it sound like X did something to die, when it's most often caused by an external action < 1437707980 52726 :mihow!~mihow@173-164-76-214-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437708052 792219 :mihow!~mihow@173-164-76-214-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437708334 329744 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437709179 317453 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:818c:57ec:4ae8:4900 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is brilliant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_prime < 1437709220 402269 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:818c:57ec:4ae8:4900 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the title alone caught me off guard, but the idea of encoding your data as a mathematically significant prime number in order to defeat censorship is pretty clever. < 1437709723 604700 :mihow!~mihow@173-164-76-214-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437709772 177098 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it too < 1437709824 918094 :mihow!~mihow@173-164-76-214-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437709947 960238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, turns out I've been there before in my (former) role as a Wikipedia admin < 1437709976 57534 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone was claiming that the page's protection status was mislabeled (which normally needs an admin to update either the protection status or the labelling so that the two match), but they were mistaken < 1437709986 638393 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You'll be amused to note that one of my coworkers is a graduate of Waterloo's CS program. < 1437709999 541024 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by "coworker" I mean "team mate" < 1437710093 910134 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437710259 711917 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437710260 64387 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437710616 36100 :mihow!~mihow@173-164-76-214-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437710661 999979 :mihow!~mihow@173-164-76-214-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437711058 909331 :mihow!~mihow@173-164-76-214-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1437711512 990073 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: do you have opponents where you work, too? < 1437711520 730472 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Not to my knowledge. < 1437711718 383544 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fixed my userChrome.js first I made it to fix the location bar and now I also added the codes to fix the dialog box to ask you if you want to open or save it too < 1437712692 388449 :comodvs!~comodvs@unaffiliated/comodvs QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437712949 909688 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1437713724 24710 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437714007 28457 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1437715173 3111 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437715182 748077 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437715200 151202 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1437716678 525971 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437716688 402642 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 17 * 10 < 1437716689 885499 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 170 < 1437716710 297422 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn I didn't type it out all the way < 1437716784 469565 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gosh darn 4 loops < 1437717151 567070 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:818c:57ec:4ae8:4900 PART :#esoteric < 1437717551 654786 :MoALTz_!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437717758 831933 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437719383 30140 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1437720930 882936 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437721207 845910 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1437721223 768104 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437721229 370599 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437721373 545821 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1437721937 201285 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnurd. < 1437722147 462487 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437722175 57004 :jasony!~jasony@c-73-14-83-56.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437722775 622169 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1437723065 820154 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437723172 63434 :J_A_Work_!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437723172 163548 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437723172 217923 :J_A_Work_!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :J_A_Work < 1437724091 687159 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Fuck me < 1437725190 682890 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1437725807 430410 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-143-158.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1437725952 943336 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1437726287 539887 :jasony!~jasony@c-73-14-83-56.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437727133 307939 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid question < 1437727145 838598 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the 5th fibonacci number? < 1437727151 399045 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it 5 or 8? < 1437727155 602962 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do i start to count? < 1437727162 519041 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: 5 < 1437727165 511363 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1437727195 347720 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: you start to count so that fibonacci(gcd(n, k)) = gcd(fibonacci(n), fibonacci(k)) is true, and fibonacci(0) = 0 and fibonacci(1) = 1. < 1437727238 92952 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1437727255 809173 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1437727261 113006 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: that's the best reason < 1437727263 379786 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice property < 1437727349 373998 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, in that case the 5th fibonacci number is 3 < 1437727355 199164 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bigprimes.net/archive/fibonacci/1000/ this page counts from 0 < 1437727360 754220 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because 0 → first, 1 → second, 2 → third, and so on < 1437727399 810326 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :0,1,1,2,3 < 1437727402 630544 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1437727553 39931 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION good morning < 1437727564 210376 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning Taneb < 1437727898 521876 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437727923 838871 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437729390 593747 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-vpdblbhzotzudjpw QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437729444 681163 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ocokudnnboqruwrb JOIN :#esoteric < 1437730293 23980 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many fibonacci numbers are primes? < 1437730332 236260 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least 2 < 1437730343 689834 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conjecture: infinitely many < 1437730369 811198 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2,3,5,8,13,89 < 1437730384 649281 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :233 < 1437730437 17693 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1597 < 1437730445 304004 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A small infinitely many < 1437730488 878693 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibonacci_prime < 1437730543 632123 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's unproven as of now < 1437730689 179518 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1437730709 728990 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can claim that I have a prove that will be relased upon my death < 1437730724 63172 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then... it is suddenly lost. < 1437730730 775499 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I still get mentioned on wikipedia for it :D < 1437730739 15234 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how you get onto wikipedia < 1437730752 388330 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*proof < 1437731132 583646 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437731438 504691 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1437731746 633227 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437731767 21646 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437731830 261193 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8? < 1437731875 821480 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time i checked, 8 was dividable by 2 < 1437732432 389034 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, whaaaat? < 1437732441 901590 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not sure that you are right < 1437732446 453904 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you prove it? < 1437732461 450372 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on the axioms you give me < 1437732464 917995 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1437732470 177116 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll believe you < 1437733383 954323 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ssfemyswgmesuljq QUIT : < 1437733394 866085 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dfolbckztohprcia JOIN :#esoteric < 1437733619 722870 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437733677 413197 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437734759 624072 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends. < 1437734762 643056 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 mod 2 is 0 < 1437734766 938378 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can't divide by 0 < 1437735080 39177 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrelloman. don't tell me what I can't do. < 1437735304 753133 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 10 / 0 < 1437735306 493361 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Infinity < 1437735313 542353 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly one CAN divide by zero! < 1437735992 663116 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 10 `div` 0 < 1437735994 152916 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: divide by zero < 1437735995 485088 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only sometimes! < 1437736014 856828 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0 * (10/0) < 1437736016 485254 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : NaN < 1437736118 191290 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels mathematically uneasy < 1437736489 176857 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hurrah for IEEE 754 < 1437736868 37246 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1/0 - 2/0, (1-2)/0] -- hurrah < 1437736869 662595 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [NaN,-Infinity] < 1437736931 158619 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> decodeFloat (0/0) < 1437736932 798320 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (-6755399441055744,972) < 1437736948 630667 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> decodeFloat (0*(10/0)) < 1437736949 949984 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (-6755399441055744,972) < 1437736954 518650 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, the same NaN < 1437737038 352213 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is horrible. I'm leaving for saner realities. < 1437737048 655088 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: MANAGERIAL CHICKEN < 1437737068 82215 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [0/0, uncurry encodeFloat . decodeFloat $ (0/0)] -- wow < 1437737069 559867 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [NaN,-Infinity] < 1437737099 491550 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :much wow. very float. So NaN. < 1437737207 66277 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That's GHC #3134 < 1437737224 241309 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> encodeFloat $ decodeFloat (1/0 :: Float) < 1437737225 569081 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type ‘Integer’ < 1437737225 623369 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type ‘(Integer, Int)’ < 1437737225 677724 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the second argument of ‘($)’, namely < 1437737237 656790 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> uncurry encodeFloat $ decodeFloat (1/0 :: Float) < 1437737239 40085 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.402823669209385e38 < 1437737240 69532 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type encodeFloat < 1437737241 144784 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :RealFloat a => Integer -> Int -> a < 1437737250 685415 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1437737254 83866 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there unreal floats < 1437737258 744272 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type decodeFloat < 1437737259 749154 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :RealFloat a => a -> (Integer, Int) < 1437737275 125987 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type encodeFloat 5 < 1437737276 195847 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :RealFloat a => Int -> a < 1437737279 222331 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type encodeFloat 5 3 < 1437737280 195223 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :RealFloat a => a < 1437737284 449690 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> encodeFloat 5 3 < 1437737285 862776 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 40.0 < 1437737286 171346 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Not in the Prelude at least < 1437737298 77496 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wth does encodeFloat even do < 1437737317 650191 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :decodeFloat just blindly takes exponent and mantisssa... encodeFloat is supposd to reverse decodeFloat < 1437737319 553887 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The function decodeFloat applied to a real floating-point number returns the significand expressed as an Integer and an appropriately scaled exponent (an Int). If decodeFloat x yields (m,n), then x is equal in value to mbn, where b is the floating-point radix, and furthermore, either m and n are both zero or else bd-1<=m decodeFloat 40.0 < 1437737334 386980 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (5629499534213120,-47) < 1437737341 917027 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> decodeFloat 128 < 1437737343 412077 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (4503599627370496,-45) < 1437737346 616185 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1437737347 476020 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1437737349 978285 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> encodeFloat 2 8 < 1437737351 389352 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 512.0 < 1437737358 176750 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :> decodeFloat 512 < 1437737359 568002 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (4503599627370496,-43) < 1437737361 334690 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the exponent is adjusted for the number of bits in the mantisssa) < 1437737377 641122 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> decodeFloat (2^53) < 1437737379 24518 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (4503599627370496,1) < 1437737392 769892 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> decodeFloat (2^52) < 1437737394 270790 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (4503599627370496,0) < 1437737418 521864 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders about denormals, hmm < 1437737442 109398 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Updated 7 days ago, after about 5 years of silence (modulo one extra Cc). < 1437737568 411272 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437737676 887882 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yep, that was amusing. < 1437737743 955748 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1437737847 674475 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders whether esolangs.org's ownership has been clarified or whether it'll expire again may next year. < 1437737965 452195 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I kind of half-decided I could take it, and then ask for completely optional donations to cover the costs, but nothing concrete actually happened. < 1437738072 519927 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1437738156 805779 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION could take it too, but isn't too keen on another community contribution paid out of his own pocket (in addition to lambdabot). < 1437738226 60122 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much would it cost? < 1437738268 67880 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It kind of makes sense for the person taking care of the DNS services to own the domain, just in case they need to update DNS server addresses. < 1437738379 433149 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing your own dns? < 1437738436 526476 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1437738467 223988 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gandi's .org price is about 13 EUR/year, and I pay $16/year for another .org I have, and I think you can get cheaper but I don't really know which registrars are the good ones. < 1437738513 820317 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1437738523 933252 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so actually buying them < 1437738526 177561 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :$10-$15 a year? http://www.domparison.com/domain-name-price-comparison/index.php?ext=org&want=renew < 1437738531 327648 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which seems standard fair? < 1437738732 88363 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437738747 749592 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437738843 469981 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1437738981 782822 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1437740529 263450 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1437740610 899776 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-scpjvxpeonngxcmv QUIT : < 1437740645 494379 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ijrxagtzexblfwjn JOIN :#esoteric < 1437740912 790872 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ocokudnnboqruwrb QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437741037 365695 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-butouepvrlwhsnmk JOIN :#esoteric < 1437741284 89111 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437741616 363795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437741688 41489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : because 0 → first, 1 → second, 2 → third, and so on <-- i once imagined a fictional conlang in which ordinals work that way (basically, you construct them with a preposition meaning "after"), i wonder if any natural languages do < 1437741725 207754 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1437741752 730035 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :|f`-`|f: the term for "second" would be "after 1" < 1437741761 331645 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes, the first ordinal, second ordinal, third ordinal, ordinal 3, and so on. < 1437741781 521209 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what if I did 4 first < 1437741788 576859 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would I get fifth, or first < 1437741801 605141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :|f`-`|f: go ask /r/fifthworldproblems < 1437741827 577890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my idea makes logical sense, unlike yours < 1437741849 194346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if something is fourth in a row, then there are 3 items before it < 1437741853 767321 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your ordinals are in unary? < 1437741889 426904 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: no. the words 1, 2, 3 etc. aren't ordinals, they are cardinals, there is no recursion hth < 1437741940 216879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that ordinal terms are based on an off-by-one cardinal compared to in english < 1437742006 434277 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1437742012 696405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe this is too unintuitive for humans, what do i know < 1437742042 809462 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually say "of index 0, of index 1, of index 2, of index 3", but I hope we can eventually just get people to say "first, second, twoth, third" < 1437742054 103090 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1437742068 628307 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437742104 337298 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe "first, second, twoth, threeth" < 1437742156 935143 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pamai claims that "nomai" is lojban for ordinal 0, but the link contradicts this < 1437742181 371645 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably has the same status as "zeroth" < 1437742189 299395 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: yes, "nomai" means 0th < 1437742193 681395 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1437742197 627380 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean "nomoi" < 1437742238 354119 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fi:"no moi" -> en:"oh, hello" < 1437742242 57893 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I for one would recommend keeping "moi" as context-sensitive and using longer words when you want to specify zero-based or one-based < 1437742357 940229 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: More like en:ohai < 1437742359 92250 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically something like "se lidnemei" for zero-based ordinal index < 1437742376 636214 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I believe that chinese use the same words for cardinals and ordinals, so you should be able to use 0-based counting without as much confusion < 1437742460 838105 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/one 一; https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/first 第一 < 1437742540 912410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION likes how romance languages use the definite article to turn comparative into superlative < 1437742739 540633 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ille maior < 1437742772 968878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well latin didn't, afair < 1437742783 960034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't even _have_ articles < 1437742784 531300 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437742829 839842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the latin superlative turned into a kind of emphasizing in italian < 1437742933 16757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the original comparative still remains in a few words, maggiore being one of them < 1437743011 283276 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just love how puella is etymologically the diminutive form of puer < 1437743154 682957 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in early literature both puellus and puera were in use < 1437743178 616807 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I understand it domain name prices vary much more by the dotword at the end than by registrar < 1437743240 672570 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chines and japanese cont things using a counter and the word < 1437743309 592832 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for japanese, you could say 0番,1番,2番 < 1437743414 716948 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that here zero is pronounced as chinese "rei" rather than "zero" < 1437743455 258444 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that would be 0th, 1st, 2nd < 1437743507 669812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but which one means the first in a row? < 1437743661 221298 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For more confusion, oftentimes the first question on a test sheet is labeled '例' which is also pronounced 'rei' but means 'example'. < 1437743836 843512 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because japanese people decided, oh, let's just get rid of these tones, noone will care < 1437745314 90990 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437745855 728817 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437745857 218108 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mroman are there unreal floats <-- there are complex numbers < 1437745857 323878 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1437745868 54700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t pi < 1437745869 171044 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floating a => a < 1437745880 234336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> pi :: Complex Double < 1437745881 512272 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.141592653589793 :+ 0.0 < 1437746332 684161 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1437746770 636422 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437747990 117425 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode gardеnеr < 1437747990 724489 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0067 LATIN SMALL LETTER G] [U+0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A] [U+0072 LATIN SMALL LETTER R] [U+0064 LATIN SMALL LETTER D] [U+0435 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER IE] [U+006E LATIN SMALL LETTER N] [U+0435 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER IE] [U+0072 LATIN SMALL LETTER R] < 1437748076 495399 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1437748332 981495 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh stupid perl insists that I balance my }})} parenthesis because otherwise it won't figure out what ends where < 1437748430 422036 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is reasonable? < 1437748485 989723 :quietello!~bcd@209.86.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437748562 88653 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437748679 309603 :quietello!~bcd@209.86.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437750145 65804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think randall munroe messed up his graphics today < 1437750392 157562 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, maybe it's a stylistic choice. < 1437750397 683677 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It reminds me of a fax. < 1437750425 259725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...maybe it is one. < 1437750456 602793 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was better last night < 1437750478 504296 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I didn't notice anything weird when I looked at the RSS feed. < 1437750496 990767 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1437750528 292711 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which I think took me to m.xkcd.com.) < 1437750796 97554 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07PZAB14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43572&oldid=41679 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (-30) 10fixed spec < 1437750845 152337 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh I'm gonna be sick < 1437750850 920746 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, :( < 1437750925 763962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah the forum mentions a typo that has been removed < 1437750937 283567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it originally said kevin kostner) < 1437750960 396614 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as some others that haven't. < 1437751152 548931 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1437751721 172161 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437751750 215463 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437751878 656135 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437753021 297988 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437753354 297889 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437753358 176379 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437755672 108832 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1437757243 875071 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07DcScript14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43573&oldid=33524 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+9) 10this page could use some specs < 1437757881 116571 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-143-158.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1437759167 558244 :comodvs!~comodvs@unaffiliated/comodvs JOIN :#esoteric < 1437762414 96678 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437762615 303608 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-44c2a85f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437764902 442835 :comodvs!~comodvs@unaffiliated/comodvs QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1437765468 296064 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437765749 327927 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437767134 625459 :akam_!6d81952b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.129.149.43 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437767880 631560 :akam_!6d81952b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.129.149.43 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437768925 195974 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437768978 56291 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437769001 742290 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437769001 796723 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1437769001 796798 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437771765 75106 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437773061 277318 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1437773095 75414 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a short log section... < 1437773153 636916 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1437773154 137143 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1437773154 466468 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1437773154 950515 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​αλτγρ+γ/αλτγρ+γ is the national dead pastry of Greece. Goes great with a glass of ouzo! < 1437773155 349868 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :_̰̆̓_̦̻̖͍̟̖̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_̯͙̬̬̦̯͂͋͒ͧ͋̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞/_̰̆̓_̦̻̖͍̟̖́̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_̯͙̬̬̦̯͂͋͒ͧ͋̈̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞ _̰̆̓_̦̻̖͍̟̖́̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_̯͙̬̬̦̯͂͋͒ͧ͋̈̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞ < 1437773155 652020 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rholypoly/A rholypoly is an edible Greek species of Armadillidiidae. Goes well with garlic! < 1437773155 727654 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1437773185 901608 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode + < 1437773186 710694 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+002B PLUS SIGN] < 1437773200 380905 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think greek words generally contain that. < 1437773270 623519 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437773349 816846 :atrapado!~self@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1437773391 466900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, armadillidiidae actually exist < 1437773473 667379 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is pretty greek today < 1437773474 889504 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -il gree wisdom < 1437773476 678145 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/αλτγρ+γ \ wisdom/cow \ wisdom/rholypoly \ wisdom/catamorphism < 1437773500 521824 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cow < 1437773501 190345 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A cow is an animal best served at minus zero degrees. < 1437773556 773214 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the armadillidiidae and armadillidae articles contradict each other < 1437773647 851378 :atrapado!~self@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437773681 316730 :atrapado!~self@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1437773704 796058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the atrapadidae, i wonder < 1437774555 670645 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437774637 603976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1437774712 535606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought a 45 min old unanswered stackoverflow question was reasonably safe from having someone else finish their answer before me, but noo... < 1437776003 242421 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1437776061 732275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you know an example of a Category that's also Functor (modulo no. of parameters), but not an `Arrow`? < 1437776102 165152 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31618370/is-f-fmap-f-id-always-equivalent-to-arr < 1437776121 489916 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has been doing too much markdown < 1437776239 691658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about a Category that's a Profunctor? < 1437776247 234510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would work < 1437776256 855393 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, not that I have one. < 1437776264 279891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \f -> rmap f C.id < 1437776265 458580 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Category p, Profunctor p) => (b -> c) -> p b c < 1437776266 464840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was looking up profunctors but then remembered they didn't have to be categories < 1437776271 918508 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \f -> lmap f C.id < 1437776273 89282 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Category p, Profunctor p) => (a -> c) -> p a c < 1437776298 624488 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually profunctors aren't categories. < 1437776310 442895 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only in the bizarre framework of Haskell that it even makes much sense for one to be the other. < 1437776324 267662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1437776351 806234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway back in the day when I thought about those things I'd maybe be able to give a useful answer. < 1437776363 811566 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I definitely remember this lmap/rmap f id thing coming up somewhere. < 1437776366 983290 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1437776407 65053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, if your type is both a Category and an Arrow, then \f -> rmap f id = arr, I think. < 1437776410 562750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm no pumpkins in channel, and edwardk is long idle < 1437776432 983613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the case for when you know its an Arrow is well established. < 1437776446 909892 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, your link talks about that. < 1437776487 582764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's probably something which is both Category and Functor but not Arrow. < 1437776499 835176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, probably. < 1437776506 353329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would every Category+Functor thing have products? < 1437776511 574280 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src Arrow < 1437776511 628609 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :class Arrow a where < 1437776511 682923 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : arr, pure :: (b -> c) -> a b c < 1437776511 682983 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (>>>) :: a b c -> a c d -> a b d < 1437776511 683014 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : first :: a b c -> a (b,d) (c,d) < 1437776511 683044 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : second :: a b c -> a (d,b) (d,c) < 1437776513 611629 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (***) :: a b c -> a b' c' -> a (b,b') (c,c') < 1437776515 569505 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (&&&) :: a b c -> a b c' -> a b (c,c') < 1437776523 532401 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a few lines more than I hoped for. < 1437776532 403563 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, no reason to expect it. < 1437776538 551987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, so i don't < 1437776557 297703 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you hinting that i'm not being very helpful < 1437776561 241555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, i find the SO question is missing the nail in the coffin < 1437776581 870253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i use a more solid object for hinting? < 1437776602 841199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't realize you were equipped with a mapole < 1437776616 525193 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but i have the saucepan < 1437776639 670250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i'm sure there must be an example in one of edwardk's package, if i only knew them < 1437776643 720092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my impression was that you don't cook very much < 1437776645 547655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*packages < 1437776651 772210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is true. < 1437776660 468629 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you end up with the saucepan? < 1437776687 770478 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rule of plot relevance < 1437776691 298908 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :has it ever been used for sauce? < 1437776707 714263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hardly, ASCII characters don't hold sauce well < 1437776731 504499 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should check if he has a physical one < 1437776735 259104 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're an ASCII character < 1437776742 223726 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? saucepan < 1437776743 910753 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :saucepan? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1437776746 926254 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1437776773 589101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in this house, i think < 1437776788 108933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I found out that edwardk doesn't even have data T f a = L a | B (T f (f a)) anywhere. < 1437776801 269378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1437776809 451830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though he does have the dual. < 1437776844 168564 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: Maybe you know the answer to oerjan's question? < 1437776959 621486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: aka, is there a Category that is Functor but not Arrow < 1437777163 825512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ReifiedFold is an Arrow < 1437777180 938299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION loaded Control.Lens to see what new Category instances popped up < 1437777221 17156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as is Indexed i < 1437777244 67426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tried :info! < 1437777249 922268 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: remember the good old days of lens when a type like Indexed was how everything worked? < 1437777250 14682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*s < 1437777262 481684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure < 1437777271 762103 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :type Iso a b c d = forall k f. (Isomorphic k, Functor f) => k (c -> f d) (a -> f b) < 1437777310 655163 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :type IndexedTraversal i a b c d = forall f k. (Indexed i k, Applicative f) => k (c -> f d) (a -> f b) < 1437777313 629828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that thing < 1437777335 650164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...okay, whatever < 1437777382 717457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cokleisli too... < 1437777487 488359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Op is not, but it's not Functor either < 1437777490 752378 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437777608 718665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something tells me Coercion isn't a Functor either < 1437777641 99366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or :~: < 1437777647 861198 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you just find a category which isn't contravariant in the first argument < 1437777669 926654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Op works for that < 1437777691 741442 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and which is covariant in the secone argument, i mean < 1437777696 733389 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's definitely not going to be an Arrow < 1437777711 865184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, that makes no sense < 1437777720 325753 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :such a thing can't exist < 1437777722 353775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that's possible, actually < 1437777722 872814 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind tdnh < 1437777736 709908 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's gotta be the products < 1437777741 289297 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because from Functor and Category you get, essentially, arr (but not the rest of Arrow) < 1437777748 583134 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1437777763 911815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that gives you contravariance too < 1437777809 571387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1437777925 425167 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm Pipes doesn't seem to define any Categories, despite being thorougly based on categories < 1437777954 372535 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION restarts WinGHCi to see how much of this depends on what packages are loaded < 1437777976 688489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it does matter for that < 1437778177 791865 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/soft/ld-expl < 1437778191 577911 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"World's best exploit: ld-expl. It still works - amaze your friends!" < 1437778221 768359 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437778295 522227 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must nitpick about the complete unnecessity of having a named file for the source. < 1437778387 827961 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437778708 50478 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437778946 91067 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437779519 826024 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1437779639 284974 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can never recall what the difference between "profunctor" and "difunctor" is (if there is any) :/ < 1437779891 703574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: I think they usually mean the same thing. < 1437779892 261373 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437780246 13944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so difunctor isn't the same as bifunctor? < 1437780293 275625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has been wondering if you could make a polykinded Functor that supported both co- and contravariance < 1437780320 405088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that all of functor, bifunctor and profunctor would just be special cases < 1437780331 995155 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have a small category `C', then `Hom_C : C^op * C >---> Set', so given an object `A' in `C^op', `(B |-> Hom_C (A,B)) : C >---> Set' is a (covariant) functor < 1437780344 335695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, difunctor is as in dinatural transformation, or something along those lines. < 1437780347 619104 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :di like diagonal? < 1437780350 785302 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember. < 1437780353 888412 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan : i don't know the definition of "profunctor", so i can't tell < 1437780388 85540 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a "difunctor" from `A' and `B' to `C' is a bifunctor from `A^op' and `B' to `C') < 1437780388 296760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: um, my question is about the haskell Category, Functor and Arrow classes, specifically < 1437780390 429036 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Haskell definition we're using is class Profunctor p where dimap :: (x -> a) -> (b -> y) -> p a b -> p x y < 1437780402 282008 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, we're not even using a Haskell definition. < 1437780426 300743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, to find an example of something that cannot be given an Arrow instance despite having the rest < 1437780450 311089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Category with fmap which doesn't have products. < 1437780462 162684 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan : do you mean "can't be given a (valid) `arr'" definition ? or also the product structure ? < 1437780476 956766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: no, arr can be defined from the pieces given < 1437780482 605254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fmap f id) < 1437780484 565952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make a (valid) `arr' definition from Category and fmap < 1437780508 411943 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan : i was pondering whether that would always satisfy laws (assuming a general CT setting, not just in Haskell) < 1437780510 347871 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So products are the whole deal. < 1437780519 196491 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is surprising given how unproductive this discussion has been. < 1437780552 144747 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: sometime i should find out about profunctors and chu spaces and things < 1437780562 653943 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? chu space < 1437780563 638255 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Chu space is just a matrix. Taneb invented them, then Chu stole his invention. < 1437780570 903183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose you _could_ even have the product structure, if you manage to find one of the examples of something that's Category + Applicative but not Arrow. < 1437780584 992836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but fails the connecting laws) < 1437780611 732846 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i suspect something without product would be easier < 1437780811 550867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just favorites the question in case someone else answers < 1437781038 619971 :atrapado!~self@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437781271 459589 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you can't give up now!! < 1437781361 983042 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437781369 573322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is really good at giving up, you know < 1437781388 528917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of evil overlord does that make you < 1437781404 688433 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a failed one hth < 1437781532 827850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm what about a free construction < 1437781655 912536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Fnord t a b where Fn :: (a -> b) -> Fnord t a b; Base :: (t a b) -> Fnord t a b < 1437781671 205154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, needs composition < 1437781685 271896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...but only some kinds < 1437781741 334044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is there a free category somewhere... well there are thrists < 1437781759 398339 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT : < 1437781769 681259 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437781777 749399 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1437781851 654074 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437781854 185253 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1437781871 910532 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ho < 1437781893 216327 :ocharles___!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rvlbklcwryuebmrj JOIN :#esoteric < 1437781921 212507 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone needs to implement a tangle-bracket language < 1437781922 96747 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm does ocharles___ know his Categories < 1437781927 639989 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least design one < 1437782030 876426 :Lymee!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1437782040 448830 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437782040 520251 :ocharles__!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gycwhbliucazrnlx QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437782040 927600 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437782061 129305 :Lymee!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan NICK :Lymia < 1437782149 322321 :ocharles___!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rvlbklcwryuebmrj NICK :ocharles__ < 1437782155 954530 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Fnord t a b where Fn :: (a -> b) -> Fnord t a b; Base :: t a b -> Fnord t a b; Cons :: (c -> d) -> t (b -> c) -> Fnord t a b -> Fnord t a d < 1437782186 44420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait drop the Base < 1437782227 460410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's equivalent to Cons id something (Fn id) < 1437782266 715700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's a syntax error, a type name needs to start with a capital letter hth < 1437782272 580122 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't just write the type variables < 1437782290 970688 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1437782300 390968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1437782307 660583 :hppavilion[1]!ceae2a03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.174.42.3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437782314 110234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hits shachaf with the saucepan ===\__/ < 1437782333 92940 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot started it < 1437782333 311080 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but if you're dealing with unfamiliar territory, start small: test at the end < 1437782421 86496 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437782421 140934 :Herbalist!~oz@185.82.32.20 QUIT :Changing host < 1437782421 141005 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1437782455 720479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :instance Functor (Fnord t a) where fmap f (Fn g) = Fn (f . g); fmap f (Cons g b fn) = Cons (f . g) b fn < 1437782458 924877 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1437782569 197779 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist PART :#esoteric < 1437782607 684642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :instance Category (Fnord t) where id = Fn id; Fn f . x = fmap f x; Cons f b fn . x = Cons f b (fn . x) < 1437782623 437731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should test this < 1437782746 284446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, compiled on first try < 1437782818 816922 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: now we just need to show it has no products twh < 1437782837 668037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did i get involved in this tdnh < 1437782837 880185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, and maybe that it actually satisfies the laws < 1437782857 579918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait i forgot the Category one < 1437782878 945905 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good eivng < 1437782899 443632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :still compiling < 1437782920 876225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: good vineig < 1437782967 782944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well i just figured that free constructions are ideal for making something that satisfies no more laws than necessary < 1437782979 977465 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoa < 1437782982 490464 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :innovative < 1437783002 34556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I NO RIGHT? < 1437783012 762353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*RITE < 1437783034 401365 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders renaming Fnord to something better < 1437783049 809204 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok, now explain free topological spaces twh < 1437783051 494556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeCF maybe < 1437783113 884317 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea: a language that brings back line numbers < 1437783118 246112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't remember what those are, or if they even exist < 1437783128 618994 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: have you looked at FORTE < 1437783143 28155 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: a free topological space on a set is just the discrete space with that set as points < 1437783146 18089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maximally boring tdnh < 1437783155 247579 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think ais523 basically used up line number esolangs with that one < 1437783164 896327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait there's also SMETANA < 1437783166 32247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the cofree topological space is indiscrete) < 1437783188 536273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well we have ways to make it stop talking < 1437783245 676326 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437783266 624262 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren, check out Whenever < 1437783301 834006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i gave the t (now renamed base) the wrong kind < 1437783334 721679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortunately it's only used wrongly in one spot < 1437783385 812574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: looks like we have a lot of line number languages, then < 1437783399 832946 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 is not that many < 1437783411 524942 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :However I will admit the category is looking rather crowded < 1437783508 434184 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking like this: you have math, and computed goto, and nothing else tpo work with < 1437783571 932106 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a statement is like < 1437783596 201025 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :140 goto X*10+120 < 1437783620 825078 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 140 X=Y+70 < 1437783663 414427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Functor laws are obvious from the code, anyway < 1437783665 767277 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there is no other types of stements (maybe data deifnitions for extra fortranity??) < 1437783666 706375 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( "The intrinsic topology of a Martin-Löf universe" by Martín H. Escardó in 2012-03 at (14),"The universe is indiscrete" by Martín Escardó,Thomas Streicher in 2013-11-16 at ) < 1437783688 108231 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren, I presume you also have some arithmetic < 1437783694 21385 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The universe is surely connected. < 1437783703 950791 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren, do we have IO (even memory-mapped?) < 1437783715 840374 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://plus.google.com/+ShachafBenKiki/posts/8Vkzum3WL7G < 1437783718 751007 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren, can we change the labels < 1437783720 496692 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah maybe something like PRINT X < 1437783733 938617 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: this effective topos thing seems to be pretty effective < 1437783742 837451 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or READ X," ",Y < 1437783761 604642 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll make a preliminary spec < 1437783767 565949 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna head to bed < 1437783886 880151 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf : mhm ? < 1437783907 36695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i should learn about it < 1437783946 471400 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.dangermouse.net/esoteric/haifu.html < 1437783998 356598 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], that language has no flow control! < 1437784015 244467 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't? < 1437784018 695208 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1437784068 130436 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437784619 194614 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Category laws for id also clearly hold < 1437784758 46811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cons f b fn = Cond f b id . fn < 1437784762 542332 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Cons < 1437785114 395785 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric := (Fn f . Cond id b id) . fn < 1437785120 611142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Cons < 1437785445 539129 :comodvs!~comodvs@unaffiliated/comodvs JOIN :#esoteric < 1437785672 279524 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION convinces himself the Category laws hold < 1437786221 616655 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've decided that, based on Haifu, I'm going to create a whole assortment of esolangs based on various philosophies < 1437786246 485016 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a project to "Improve understanding between cultures using programming" < 1437786252 359017 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But mostly just because it sounds fun < 1437786397 812334 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1437786573 7214 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/ideaforlanguage.htm < 1437786634 205756 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 PRINT "HELLO WORLD",CHR(10) < 1437786683 710195 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :20 READ CHR(N),CHR(A),CHR(M),CHR(E) < 1437786698 256322 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :30 NEXTCARD < 1437786723 771275 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :40 PRINT "HI, ",CHR(N),CHR(A),CHR(M),CHR(E) < 1437786742 262923 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :50 PRINT CHR(10) < 1437786863 849006 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you invent basic < 1437786920 75556 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm, basic with only GOTO EXPR < 1437786997 475890 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :SGN() makes it really easy to just implement a boring conditional GOTO though < 1437787321 608395 :Kendrian!182ab566@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.42.181.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437787326 973189 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1437787345 771188 :Kendrian!182ab566@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.42.181.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1437787393 385152 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome < 1437787394 523997 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02EFnet 06or 13DALnet.) < 1437787396 766262 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1437787432 697433 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :今晩はボアリ < 1437787456 532857 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :オレンさん今晩は! < 1437787462 788305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is different from BASIC clearly by such example, as normally in BASIC the READ command is for reading DATA command inside of the program, and print is automatically to next line unless you put a semicolon, and a comma in a PRINT command will make tabulation instead. < 1437787464 182686 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :お元気ですか? < 1437787471 106319 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYQB < 1437787471 353318 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYQB 250100Z 08012KT 050V110 15SM FEW012 SCT050 BKN095 15/12 A3001 RMK SC2SC2AC3 SLP162 < 1437787476 153759 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1437787476 577470 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 250050Z VRB02KT 9999 VCSH SCT036 NKN049 11/09 Q1010 RMK WIND 670FT VRB01KT < 1437787498 338408 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In such program will "NEXTCARD" mean that it only reads the first four characters from the first card, or what? < 1437787510 252593 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kørjanbanwa. the weather here is norwegianish. < 1437787521 546037 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :はい元気です! これを見てて:http://www.orenwatson.be/ideaforlanguage.htm < 1437787539 495545 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1437787560 989691 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEXTCARD skips past the next newline character in input stream < 1437787581 335365 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :オォ いいディザイン! < 1437787702 822598 :Kendrian!182ab566@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.42.181.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would using functions on the variables in N READ X, Y, ... look? < 1437787822 38033 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 READ CHR(X),HEX(Y),CHR(Z) can read "XFF00FFQ" as X='X', Y=0xFF00FF Z='Q' < 1437787846 411383 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bohaily < 1437787876 613551 :Kendrian!182ab566@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.42.181.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotcha. < 1437787880 546616 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK < 1437787893 870570 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if two number-reading ones are in a row like READ X,Y a space is allowed in betweeen < 1437787906 738454 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so READ X,Y can read "10 20" < 1437787913 934016 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can make sense, if a function is defined as an input pattern (as well as an output pattern and/or a normal function) < 1437787928 578255 :Kendrian!182ab566@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.42.181.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might need a precedence rule for parsing that; i.e., what if I meant X to be "XFF" and Y is 0x00FF < 1437787954 771588 :Kendrian!182ab566@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.42.181.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just separating them with spaces sounds like the way to go. < 1437788004 575300 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :spaces are skipped between HEX() OCT() and regular reads but not between CHR() and ony others < 1437788037 685663 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll need to document this < 1437788090 601208 :Kendrian!182ab566@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.42.181.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a slow couple of days at work and started reading up on some of the esolangs. Implementing them is kind of fun, yours wouldn't be real hard < 1437788530 995396 :Kendrian!182ab566@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.42.181.102 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1437788692 781262 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:818c:57ec:4ae8:4900 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437788723 315924 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: BASAL CHICKEN < 1437789053 740679 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437789536 782794 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :people should not write the word dubstep as ワコ乃ちナモア < 1437789639 69243 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spent 3 minutes staring at it and looking it up in dictionaries before I figured it out < 1437789678 488417 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:818c:57ec:4ae8:4900 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my < 1437789689 378461 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well its more like ワ凵乃ちナモア < 1437789700 653415 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxYeBrQ6W_o < 1437790463 156308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: ! < 1437791090 661139 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437791234 493830 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1437791316 594860 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437791516 256881 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437792572 580398 :Forge|!485f935f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.95.147.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437792587 88734 :Forge|!485f935f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.95.147.95 PART :#esoteric < 1437792600 192947 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :0h shit! ▒☺ ggg < 1437794201 735604 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437794325 145438 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437795594 80793 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why doesn't the bell work in XTerm(297)? < 1437796514 538031 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1437796574 305814 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437796574 874048 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437797590 223670 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1437797766 92589 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437798333 329885 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437798926 495726 :comodvs!~comodvs@unaffiliated/comodvs QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1437801142 535162 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, it's 1 am, time to write some CGI in C! < 1437801459 7781 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 000D < 1437801472 549331 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437801480 323514 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`multicode U+D < 1437801490 860112 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+000D \ UTF-8: 0d UTF-16BE: 000d Decimal: \ < 1437801623 330462 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does irc use \r for? < 1437802196 263213 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:818c:57ec:4ae8:4900 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1437803615 642062 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437803620 146423 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So < 1437804126 651951 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437805837 76338 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437806923 601300 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437807419 311090 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stares at hppavilion[1] < 1437807442 161954 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does something horribly perverse, thus scarring ski for life < 1437807475 68499 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION idly wonders what the converse of perverse is < 1437807519 305829 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The inverse is something pure and unperverse. Like anything a kitten does < 1437807524 219142 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure about the converse though < 1437807530 509281 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/bbs.htm < 1437807601 716646 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my program puts the C back in CGI < 1437807845 524026 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/bbssendrecv.asc < 1437809467 748975 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437809790 627730 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437811927 164365 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-urfvdsnwrhicltkn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't work on my mobile cellphone < 1437813110 88097 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1437813483 87978 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437816324 783856 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@85-76-74-100-nat.elisa-mobile.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437816697 24230 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437816915 624231 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437816962 960915 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1437817608 660307 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437817885 773950 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@85-76-74-100-nat.elisa-mobile.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437818631 578278 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437821125 36630 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437822231 328368 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437824085 190297 :EdanCorin!~Epiphanie@37.162.78.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437824288 375214 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437824595 557667 :EdanCoriin!~Epiphanie@37.161.29.94 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437824816 476440 :EdanCorin!~Epiphanie@37.162.78.123 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1437826860 666646 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437827110 818488 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437827496 299916 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437827785 604841 :EdanCoriiin!~Epiphanie@37.163.2.228 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437828035 428155 :EdanCoriin!~Epiphanie@37.161.29.94 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1437828191 614727 :EdanCoriiin!~Epiphanie@37.163.2.228 NICK :EdanCorin < 1437828528 368624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1437828874 121142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] The inverse is something pure and unperverse. Like anything a kitten does <-- um, don't look up "kitten catching mice" hth < 1437828874 226976 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1437828908 507115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION <-- destroying innocence 1 step at a time < 1437828920 408748 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a couple of steps < 1437828943 394893 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's evil, it can't be a single step < 1437828950 224746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1437829007 940588 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1437829010 637010 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly reminded of the kitten in Narbonic < 1437829085 616905 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: the second evil part is where i didn't watch the whole video myself hth < 1437829138 135497 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're a mathematician aren't you < 1437829171 52975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhat, you could call it "mostly retired" < 1437829194 607449 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you enough of a mathematician to be able to divide two numbers?! < 1437829209 751166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming the second one isn't 0, possibly < 1437829233 867113 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the divisor is > 1234 bits long? < 1437829235 558197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does know long division < 1437829252 175637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i have my trusty ghci in another window. < 1437829278 373330 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you enough of a mathematician to be able to teach me how to divide two numbers?! < 1437829289 337076 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs an algorithm for long division < 1437829297 8935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eep < 1437829311 680167 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no rly x.x < 1437829315 463072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by hand? < 1437829338 309198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's easier in binary if you have a computer < 1437829344 433315 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do have a computer < 1437829352 314920 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can do long division but only on polynomials < 1437829360 908947 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :my computer can divide numbers up to 2 ** 63 -1 < 1437829382 837355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so your problem is really with bignums < 1437829390 497625 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1437829405 397508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered the gmp library? < 1437829425 262930 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep but that's not reinventing the wheel so i discarded it < 1437829428 993046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1437829484 413984 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :also my language has basically no way to interact with gmp < 1437829517 679925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 1 is to implement addition/subtraction, bit shifting and comparison so you have the pieces for the algorithm < 1437829535 383490 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :addition/subtraction: done < 1437829542 92204 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :comparison: done < 1437829548 834024 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1437829563 241499 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ò_ò https://github.com/izabera/bashmathlib < 1437829607 578275 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a repl, try it \o/ < 1437829607 767398 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                          | < 1437829607 845743 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                         /| < 1437829615 476474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :left shift the divisor until its leftmost bit is in the same spot as the leftmost bit of the dividend. < 1437829634 648517 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm so glad that myndzi didn't add a penis < 1437829636 421379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep track of how much you shifted < 1437829656 786216 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i'm doing all my calculations in base 10? < 1437829663 439556 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can shift in base 10 < 1437829669 408801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it becomes much more complicated < 1437829691 781030 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, calculate multiples 1..9 of the divisor. < 1437829708 963312 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok got it < 1437829729 11188 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shift left until they have the same leftmost digit spot < 1437829775 911595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let the current remainder = the dividend < 1437829809 296330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :find which bracket of shifted divisor multiples the current remainder is in < 1437829814 530424 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1437829835 966009 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's possible that it's 0-1, but only on the first step. if so, shift the divisor once right.) < 1437829862 103556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw the bracket is inclusive to the left and exclusive to the right < 1437829883 326667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lower bracket gives you the first digit of the quotient < 1437829909 618281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now subtract the corresponding shifted multiple from the current remainder < 1437829909 674691 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really have to compute all of the 1..9 multiples right? < 1437829928 336893 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um that's why do in practice when i have to do it by hand. < 1437829931 789678 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*what i < 1437829947 765164 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well but i need at most all of them < 1437829976 813331 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can start with 1, then test if it's > number, else test with 2, else 3... < 1437829994 221878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: well the thing is you'll be doing this _several_ times. < 1437830011 345495 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1437830021 589045 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you for pointing it out < 1437830037 987404 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow thanks a lot really < 1437830041 968566 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel so dumb < 1437830083 917666 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you _could_ avoid the multiplying by using a bit more subtracting, hm... < 1437830126 961744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's try that. it might not be that much worse (unless you're actually binary searching the digits, which is probably _really_ complicated) < 1437830179 519652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, don't calculate the multiples. compare the shifted divisor to the remainder. if the divisor is smaller, subtract it, and increment the result variable. < 1437830209 561632 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already have the multiplication < 1437830235 449574 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION codes codes codes < 1437830244 772004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well your choice. < 1437830258 751680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's equivalent, anyway < 1437830281 463267 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but i want the division to go up to any arbitrary precision... < 1437830283 703914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*smaller or equal < 1437830319 331769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: you're not using multiples _larger_ than 9, anyway ... for that you shift instead. < 1437830335 696446 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes and...? < 1437830347 151233 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry i may be missing something obvious again < 1437830402 871564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, if the divisor is greater instead, then shift it rightwards, and also shift the result variable leftwards by the same amount. < 1437830417 959167 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes yes ok < 1437830434 481660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(amount = 1 probably) < 1437830504 490333 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eventually, you shift the divisor all the way back to where it was. when it then becomes greater, either stop (if you are doing integer division), or insert a decimal point. < 1437830563 110085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you insert a decimal point, hm, now i think instead of shifting the divisor rightwards you should shift the remainder leftward. < 1437830603 141588 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank youu <3 < 1437830604 668129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are basically equivalent, since only the relative position matters. < 1437830632 681591 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope you're testing this :P < 1437830644 221804 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1437831710 219277 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now tempted to write a karatsuba division in bash < 1437831744 893424 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's gonna be slow anyway < 1437831778 691871 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :my version computes 2^1000 in 1.9s < 1437832210 646047 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last time I implemented bignums, I just went with newton division. It worked well. < 1437832257 89497 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437832345 515380 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437832365 445360 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1437832632 463878 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1437832740 538146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, long division is obviously not the fanciest, most efficient method. < 1437832855 611126 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437833037 847218 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I didn't implement it at all. < 1437833400 392038 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437833639 58198 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437833700 27113 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> pi ** pi :: CReal < 1437833702 566073 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 36.4621596072079117709908260226921236663655 < 1437833711 172758 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src (**) < 1437833711 226993 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. Listen, broccoli brains, I don't have time to listen to this trash. < 1437833764 181216 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: int-ello. since when has lambdie included creative replies like that? < 1437833778 143828 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src (^^) < 1437833778 246541 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :x ^^ n = if n >= 0 then x^n else recip (x^(negate n)) < 1437833779 725984 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan, Jafellot. < 1437833852 773276 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src (^) < 1437833852 866773 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :x ^ 0 = 1 < 1437833852 920968 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :x ^ n | n > 0 = f x (n-1) x < 1437833852 921029 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : where f _ 0 y = y < 1437833852 921061 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : f x n y = g x n < 1437833852 921089 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : where g x n | even n = g (x*x) (n `quot` 2) < 1437833854 783029 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : | otherwise = f x (n-1) (x*y) < 1437833856 846055 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :_ ^ _ = error "Prelude.^: negative exponent" < 1437833883 869044 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437833951 749028 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :boillehy. Looks like lambdabot's got my number. < 1437833996 637781 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have broccoli brains? < 1437834098 89447 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437834115 473479 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437834157 437264 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The doctor says it's romanesco. Children loathe and fear it. < 1437834180 38796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily. since always hth < 1437834197 901435 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437834232 274123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is amused that other people are still keeping the descendant of his Unlambda.hs working < 1437834250 425348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also, i'm wondering what that Int is for... < 1437834296 491430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unlambda ``.h.ii < 1437834296 594091 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : hi < 1437834320 498926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: (**) is an actual method, so no common impl. < 1437834438 305091 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: e6291f79 (Don Stewart 2007-01-06 07:07:31 +0000 136) "Listen, broccoli brains, I don't have time to listen to this trash.", < 1437834441 408986 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, cala me brese, I didn't notice that. < 1437834544 141812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: is that also a brassica pun, i'm not sure i can keep up with those < 1437834609 68617 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, 876e6076 (Don Stewart 2006-12-31 10:13:48 +0000 174) "Listen, broccoli brains, I don't have time to listen to this trash.", < 1437834635 319532 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that was specific to @quote; e6291f79 made the insults generally available in lambdabots' Lib.Util :P < 1437834653 466093 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles Jafet < 1437834686 302019 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw is there some trick to make git annotate *not* check whether a file exists first? This is rather annoying for archeology tasks < 1437834707 481068 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like the default implementation of x**y is just exp (y ln x) < 1437834718 76565 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. need to use -- < 1437834819 703569 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src thatThingThatDoesntExist < 1437834819 806314 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. Have you considered trying to match wits with a rutabaga? < 1437835006 557290 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh: there's this comment above the list of insults: -- Amusing insults from OpenBSD sudo < 1437835029 412785 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1437835138 591426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok the Int is for bounding no. of steps, it seems < 1437835316 615041 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: SCOTCH CHICKEN < 1437835319 229181 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaaaaah < 1437835387 384742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what's so scary < 1437835398 802662 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1437835401 450534 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scrollback I think < 1437835453 489857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1437835593 86198 :EdanCorin!~Epiphanie@37.163.2.228 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437835939 950390 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437836206 408629 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1437836598 405602 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1437836870 681412 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437836882 33460 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437836928 806935 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1437837985 922544 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437838886 591296 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437838926 336521 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437840193 273070 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now it's finally working < 1437840203 872728 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/bbs.htm < 1437840623 596446 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437840644 737229 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I see it. < 1437840656 309954 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, hi Wright. < 1437840664 408727 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oi < 1437840687 795457 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi\ < 1437840708 662321 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1437842201 325396 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437842446 862596 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437842448 92022 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437842628 558872 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437842716 129565 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437843196 326735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1437843901 772863 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1437844027 89446 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437844335 428225 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437844514 89697 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437846135 823257 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437846401 629926 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437848029 3584 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1437849360 610448 :key!bdc0477b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.192.71.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437849437 46317 :key!bdc0477b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.192.71.123 QUIT :Client Quit < 1437849456 600726 :key!bdc0477b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.192.71.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437849468 130433 :key!bdc0477b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.192.71.123 QUIT :Client Quit < 1437850359 426528 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1437850467 962291 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437850712 770766 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:818c:57ec:4ae8:4900 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437850999 16343 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:818c:57ec:4ae8:4900 QUIT :Client Quit < 1437851008 527054 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:818c:57ec:4ae8:4900 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437851081 494637 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnard. < 1437851245 585913 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnard? < 1437851574 505852 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord with an a < 1437851606 23254 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how innavative < 1437851639 537025 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sir Fungellot does not fnord, mraman fnards. < 1437851677 652697 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, how does fungot do its network IO? < 1437851678 286319 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: should it do when it is the best house music?. furthermore, if s/ he? or was that fashionable exageration?" i think i'd expect slow-fast-value in a lisp compiler, traditionally ( and still have the fields side-a and side-b < 1437851745 620656 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1437851745 675074 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/fungot.b98 < 1437852580 93047 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fnard" is the new kind of "fnord". < 1437852651 10234 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that what it is? < 1437852706 13991 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, which esolang would you recommend for writing a Gopher server in? < 1437852798 844585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't zzo38's Gopher server written in BASIC or something? < 1437852806 66644 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No reason to use an esolang. < 1437852807 166074 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I don't know yet < 1437852826 4952 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I did use BASIC at first but now I will write the new one in C instead I think < 1437852893 284040 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do want to use a esolang, use whatever one you prefer to do, preferably one that you can do file access < 1437852934 228579 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :File access and network IO < 1437852940 555265 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not know of any that can do either < 1437852952 172468 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apart from Befunge-98, depending on the fingerprints the interpreter has < 1437852985 618631 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can't do network function then you could still use inetd for that though < 1437853027 942565 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that is true < 1437853105 232844 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: There's a Funge-98 fingerprint for POSIX sockets. < 1437853118 984698 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Well, a subset of POSIX sockets. It's IPv4-only, for one thing. And doesn't do DNS lookups. < 1437853120 274114 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, where is that documented? < 1437853135 470041 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://www.rcfunge98.com/rcsfingers.html#SOCK < 1437853147 376145 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do make a gopher server you shouldn't need to do DNS lookups < 1437853164 218854 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: from what I recall, the UNIX domain socket address family that's "nominally supported" is impossible to use. < 1437853170 700029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And/or implement. < 1437853278 596006 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ct=1 and pf=1 are a broken spec and should not be implemented. Usage of either of these should reflect." There used to be more about them, but they couldn't be done. < 1437853308 344377 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437853363 65602 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you fizzie and zzo38 < 1437853571 270965 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437853978 498868 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal was drafting a "NSCK" that would've been more getaddrinfo-ish and capable of writing IP version agnostic Funge code. < 1437854014 204313 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you need DNS lookups to connect to gopher sites if you know the domain name but not the URL < 1437854023 236761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the normal situation < 1437854227 665809 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, if you are making a client < 1437854264 917255 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are making a server, you would just configure the domain name. < 1437854517 350725 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes, the server doesn't need a DNS < 1437854863 321295 :mauris__!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437855092 499726 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1437855143 317861 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437855347 898564 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1437855360 209068 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1437855360 311308 :mauris__!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437855407 932380 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1437855602 782742 :__256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437855701 545108 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1437855709 422758 :__256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 NICK :_256Q < 1437855722 600205 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 QUIT :Client Quit < 1437855734 774136 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437856841 96820 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable names are base64-encoded 64 bit integers < 1437856928 323649 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm maybe that's dumb < 1437856935 925637 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: um, wat? < 1437856944 413236 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a prime close to 2^64 < 1437856960 433504 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :er and below it < 1437856967 992380 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :variablello! < 1437857017 703433 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: I want to have variables in my program without storing the names as strings < 1437857022 474181 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: 2^64+13 ? < 1437857047 752385 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and below? < 1437857076 740705 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is reasonable setting for xinetd.conf (for instances, per_source, cps, max_load)? < 1437857133 337630 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh! https://primes.utm.edu/lists/2small/0bit.html < 1437857135 639539 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:818c:57ec:4ae8:4900 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437857252 419598 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: curious, why do you need them? < 1437857886 835217 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want implement http://www.orenwatson.be/ideaforlanguage.htm < 1437857939 939251 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'mma make to code for variables more genral so I can reuse it later < 1437858035 836073 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a few other ideas for languages I want to try. a unified variable-sotrage solution would be useful < 1437858259 445078 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1437858558 832697 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: ack < 1437858620 130490 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :enq? < 1437859095 567651 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437859874 888994 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437859984 891422 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Add the stable unofficial opcodes too into 6502 codes table (mark them with asterisk or lowercase to tell the differences) < 1437859987 98933 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1437861254 571550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437861472 82825 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 030x29afucks 5* 10New user account < 1437861497 671696 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Cellbrain14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43574&oldid=40986 5* 030x29afucks 5* (-3) 10NIGGA!!!!!!!!!!! < 1437861519 900067 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 030x29afucks 5* 10moved [[02Cellbrain10]] to [[Lolwut u bogan cunt]] < 1437861707 516548 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1437861825 318719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1437862079 466190 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl NICK :mauris < 1437862104 891188 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437862275 357718 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : what are you doing ? < 1437862294 983194 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1437862395 705243 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: What do you think I am doing? < 1437862473 64313 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Antonio Maschio14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43577&oldid=8603 5* 030x29afucks 5* (-300) 10Replaced content with "anus" < 1437862500 440987 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07You are Reading the Name of this Esolang14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43578&oldid=18245 5* 030x29afucks 5* (-1777) 10Replaced content with "Surprise Buttsecks!" < 1437862517 788006 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck/w/index.php?title=Talk:Brainfuck/index.php14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43579&oldid=30423 5* 030x29afucks 5* (-3665) 10Replaced content with "Buttsecks" < 1437862551 594388 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Alisj14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43580&oldid=40958 5* 030x29afucks 5* (-165) 10Replaced content with "F7U12" < 1437862555 116891 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10blocked [[02User:0x29afucks10]] with an expiry time of indefinite (account creation disabled): Inserting nonsense/gibberish into pages < 1437862645 90392 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Lolwut u bogan cunt14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43581&oldid=43575 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+3) 10Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/0x29afucks|0x29afucks]] ([[User talk:0x29afucks|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:Oerjan|Oerjan]] < 1437862664 250036 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am writing a gopher server in C right now < 1437862692 608149 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:0x29afucks14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43582 5* 030x29afucks 5* (+42) 10Created page with "'''CC0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!''' fken nuub" < 1437862736 216130 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move_redir10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10moved [[02Lolwut u bogan cunt10]] to [[Cellbrain]] over redirect: Vandalism < 1437862785 585146 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02User talk:0x29afucks10]]": Vandalism < 1437862793 514303 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Antonio Maschio14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43584&oldid=43577 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+300) 10Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/0x29afucks|0x29afucks]] ([[User talk:0x29afucks|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:Safalra|Safalra]] < 1437862796 250795 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07You are Reading the Name of this Esolang14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43585&oldid=43578 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+1777) 10Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/0x29afucks|0x29afucks]] ([[User talk:0x29afucks|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:92.233.174.117|92.233.174.117]] < 1437862798 602232 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck/w/index.php?title=Talk:Brainfuck/index.php14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43586&oldid=43579 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+3665) 10Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/0x29afucks|0x29afucks]] ([[User talk:0x29afucks|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:Ehird|Ehird]] < 1437862803 173869 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Alisj14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43587&oldid=43580 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+165) 10Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/0x29afucks|0x29afucks]] ([[User talk:0x29afucks|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:Oerjan|Oerjan]] < 1437862888 547192 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, is that Esolang's first actual vandal? < 1437862894 381223 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1437862910 403354 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan and I did get everything between us, just checked to make sure < 1437862957 971022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1437863059 749851 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 reblock10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10changed block settings for [[02User:0x29afucks10]] with an expiry time of indefinite (account creation disabled, email disabled, cannot edit own talk page): Inserting nonsense/gibberish into pages, including own talk page < 1437863086 673744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i figure if you spam your own talk page, you lose the block exception for it. < 1437863130 542341 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that is a rule, although I'd typically prefer to wait for the second time < 1437863185 46375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1437863308 84449 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boilyhello < 1437863389 955648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boi'alloy < 1437863518 12541 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's allô < 1437863530 115462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when did that word have an elided s < 1437863553 344010 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : i'm not sure. perhaps something relates to an emulator ? < 1437863768 15818 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: I do not quite understand you should try to be more specific please < 1437863812 228713 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were making a remark about 6502 unofficial opcodes < 1437863921 858866 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, oren's list of 6502 opcodes doesn't include the unofficial opcodes. The stable ones are valid in a NMOS-only program, so they can be used with any VM with the 6502 instruction set that specifies NMOS. < 1437864124 514487 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-136-42.dhcp4.washington.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437864359 626121 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i didn't see any list of 6502 (linked or not) in here .. < 1437864393 877066 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. backlog shows , and seems to work. presuming you meant the latter < 1437864476 445210 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1437865101 558964 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/6502machinecode.htm < 1437865108 796632 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :done, < 1437865175 299775 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've opted to represent the IGN (read byte and ignore) instructions as NOP with an eddressing mode < 1437865224 340902 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, but, the plain version is not updated yet < 1437865232 64500 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: what is the point of that instruction? to interface with hardware? < 1437865260 885767 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah some memory-mapped stuff can make reads do things < 1437865290 770674 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example advance to the next button on the NES controller < 1437865301 198846 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes that is one thing it can do < 1437865307 250166 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want someone to implement MMIX in hardware < 1437865313 884827 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Yes I do too < 1437865325 984289 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that you can run MMIX program in hardware < 1437865352 395799 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other purpose of IGN kind of stuff can be for timing purposes, or with a mapper I invented it can also be used for bankswitching < 1437865398 247298 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Bankswitching registers are mapped at $1xxx and mirrored at $3xxx and $5xxx and $7xxx; furthermore the cartridge hardware doesn't care if the access is read or write, either way works) < 1437865559 17318 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know $1xxx overlaps RAM; it is done like that on purpose) < 1437865802 258920 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION str it being called "strobe" on Amiga < 1437865997 714913 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much about Amiga programming < 1437866538 909735 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the .asc is now updated < 1437866590 286867 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-blryhhhaorybxlye QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1437866697 875918 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1437866757 641856 :sos!55404af5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.64.74.245 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437866784 695948 :sos!55404af5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.64.74.245 QUIT :Client Quit < 1437866794 539995 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-136-42.dhcp4.washington.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1437866795 322702 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43588&oldid=43013 5* 03Nooodl 5* (-37) 10/* IRP */ execution isn't part of the program < 1437866956 76027 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : hm, says "S Strobe (write address with no register bits). Writing the register causes the effect." < 1437866968 410956 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so apparently not on read < 1437866979 191259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow we have a lot of truth-machines < 1437867010 769406 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1437867027 536985 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, we really do < 1437867037 409707 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski, http://esolangs.org/wiki/Truth-machine < 1437867059 371041 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On NES/Famicom you select the next button by read, but to select the next row/column of the keyboard you need to write. < 1437867235 938996 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :we really do! < 1437867243 979234 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should write some more of them < 1437867272 785240 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably we have more truth-machines than Deadfish interps? < 1437867372 231317 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you count? < 1437867384 523386 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1437867390 835079 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, you should count < 1437867396 365824 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise I'd know for sure (barring the wiki being edited while I was counting) < 1437867399 774038 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb : do you know why it's called "truth-machine" ? < 1437867420 278068 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd have to ask Keymake < 1437867420 834884 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :r < 1437867440 916990 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds to me like `Bool -> Sierpinski' < 1437867486 648640 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(`Bool' being a boolean type, `Sierpinski' being the type of "observably-true ; unobservably-false") < 1437867538 404289 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-136-42.dhcp4.washington.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437867546 453096 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sierpinski is called "void" in many languages < 1437867559 265750 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably it'd only be different in languages like Agda, where it'd be some sort of monad < 1437867573 38316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, "unit" is more common than "void" I guess < 1437867618 354218 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For functions that might not halt, then yes it is like the "void" in C and that stuff. < 1437867631 615778 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to write one in this beautiful language: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Funciton < 1437867689 926110 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, afaiui, in a language where computations are terminating (or productive, in case of codata), using `Sierpinski' as result type would be an explicit license for that computation to be semi-decidable < 1437867696 305710 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :funciton rocks < 1437867697 952525 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1437867699 346117 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's a damn shame that brainfuck is featured and not this) < 1437867711 452381 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's so pretty ;^;) < 1437867721 177631 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1437867729 980032 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: it's basically MaybeNonterminating () < 1437867736 767046 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1437867759 10124 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: we need a new featured article < 1437867762 453144 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just thinking; is there something like MaybeNonterminating < 1437867765 154370 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the article itself at featured article standard? < 1437867777 689220 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at it < 1437867781 9786 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: most total languages have it as a monad, probably with a wieldier name < 1437867797 668984 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has lots of information, many examples < 1437867820 373490 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's on the shortlist already, too < 1437867823 456647 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Featured_languages/Candidates < 1437867840 620316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry I've been delinquent with featured language updating duties < 1437867848 682594 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too lazy to write a main page intro for it right now though < 1437867849 796215 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`a -> Bool' is the type of detachable subsets of `a'. `a -> Sierpinski' is the type of semi-decidable subsets of `a'. and `a -> Prop' is the type of arbitrary subsets of `a' (where you can't even attempt to check that something is an element, instead you can only (sometimes) manage to prove it is an element (or not), assuming you know something more about the subset and the element) < 1437867851 188144 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "MaybeNonterminating" there is something like that in Gentzen esolang I suppose, the loop operator is, I think? < 1437867858 399772 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: a: not found < 1437867911 330749 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks HackEgo < 1437867911 903897 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, HackEgo. ThackEgo. < 1437867947 866385 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1437867961 298817 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1437868009 336474 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellôpia, hellôerjan! < 1437868068 791443 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437868176 560253 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes there is more truth-machine there is 107 but only 78 of Deadfish < 1437868237 720681 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both those numbers are much higher than I expected < 1437868241 331841 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :worryingly higher, in fact < 1437868253 778050 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why worrying? < 1437868255 59760 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437868301 256821 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much activity's going in to this sort of thing < 1437868318 724050 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437868362 410688 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'm worried that Deadfish caught on so much < 1437868394 506419 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm willing to bet over half of them are: < 1437868414 158463 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oh i made a language, let's add it to (this/these) list(s)" < 1437868418 862791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: they both caught on because they're about the simplest programs to write in any language < 1437868426 440225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that can do it at all) < 1437868427 98141 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1437868456 486291 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while also being sillier than the usual boring "Hello, world!" and stuff < 1437868460 55674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still like the program which prints out a string of length 1, then a string of length 2, then a string of length 3, and so on, with the pattern continuing indefinitely < 1437868476 187806 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't prove TCness, but it does make it seem a lot more likely < 1437868488 527994 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah that was the first loop i wrote in /// < 1437868500 649224 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, I knew someone else had done one < 1437868500 755309 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :map (map take [1..]) $ repeat 1 < 1437868509 197758 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the first nonrepeating program I wrote in Black < 1437868513 781937 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't be so sure < 1437868519 340053 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which still isn't known TC, but I strongly suspect it is) < 1437868527 534209 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (map take [1..]) $ repeat 1 < 1437868528 923934 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type ‘Integer -> b’ < 1437868528 978282 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type ‘[[a0] -> [a0]]’ < 1437868528 978353 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Possible cause: ‘map’ is applied to too many arguments < 1437868538 351610 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1437868540 631429 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I was expecting that to work < 1437868552 457597 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [replicate n '*' | n <- [1..]] < 1437868554 446365 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["*","**","***","****","*****","******","*******","********","*********","**... < 1437868556 550000 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (map $ take [1..]) $ repeat 1 < 1437868557 784856 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type ‘Int’ with actual type ‘[Integer]’ < 1437868557 839205 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of ‘take’, namely ‘[1 .. ]’ < 1437868557 893495 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the second argument of ‘($)’, namely ‘take [1 .. ]’ < 1437868585 456980 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (map $ flip take [1..]) $ repeat 1 < 1437868586 889908 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not deduce (Num [Int]) arising from the literal ‘1’ < 1437868587 151883 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : from the context (Enum a, Num a) < 1437868587 206177 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : bound by the inferred type of it :: (Enum a, Num a) => [[[a]]] < 1437868597 603987 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're getting closer! :-P < 1437868604 183457 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map ($ repeat 1) (map take [1..]) < 1437868605 923189 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : : can't find file: L.hs < 1437868610 928438 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1437868613 932612 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map ($ repeat 1) (map take [1..]) < 1437868616 207016 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1],[1,1],[1,1,1],[1,1,1,1],[1,1,1,1,1],[1,1,1,1,1,1],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1],[1,1,... < 1437868618 123116 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1437868620 62542 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t take < 1437868621 488747 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input ‘:’ < 1437868631 814098 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: that's idris-bot syntax < 1437868638 785687 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type take < 1437868639 853463 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Int -> [a] -> [a] < 1437868647 755854 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t take < 1437868648 823666 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Int -> [a] -> [a] < 1437868649 301624 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought :t worked < 1437868651 776520 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t map take [1..] < 1437868652 974348 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[a] -> [a]] < 1437868655 180431 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes thanks oerjan < 1437868662 207992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought :t worked too but wasn't sure < 1437868685 980367 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zipWith (.) (map take [1..]) $ repeat 1 < 1437868693 78205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh and unlambda has the famous c-using one < 1437868693 257651 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith ($) (map take [1..]) $ repeat 1 < 1437868694 910944 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Show a0) < 1437868694 965198 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘show_M725027592012689207429299’ < 1437868695 19475 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable ‘a0’ is ambiguous < 1437868701 558790 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oo < 1437868710 470981 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not famous enough for me to remember what it is (but famous enough for me to have a vague memory that it exists) < 1437868713 541182 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I don't want zip < 1437868713 855106 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith ($) (map take [1..]) $ repeat (repeat 1) < 1437868715 468955 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1],[1,1],[1,1,1],[1,1,1,1],[1,1,1,1,1],[1,1,1,1,1,1],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1],[1,1,... < 1437868719 635407 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that < 1437868740 263970 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm trying to do it in INTERCAL in my head < 1437868742 239390 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unlambda ``. `cd`.*`cd < 1437868742 668212 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : * ** *** **** ***** ****** ******* ******** ********* ********** *********... < 1437868759 199651 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh wow, that looks like a torture test for an Unlambda interp :-) < 1437868762 484468 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cs and ds everywhere < 1437868778 124214 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, I shouldn't try to do INTERCAL in my head :-( < 1437868780 227559 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [[1..l]>>1|l<-[1..]] < 1437868781 844118 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Show b0) < 1437868781 898464 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘show_M375440728806938459629340’ < 1437868781 898597 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable ‘b0’ is ambiguous < 1437868790 285968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the d's are actually redundant, they're only used in spots where they're equivalent to i < 1437868791 36026 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: no < 1437868831 326338 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [[1..l]>>[1]|l<-[1..]] < 1437868835 14277 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1],[1,1],[1,1,1],[1,1,1,1],[1,1,1,1,1],[1,1,1,1,1,1],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1],[1,1,... < 1437868941 657391 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that isn't actually shorter than map(`replicate`1)[1..] :( < 1437868960 216991 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's cute and monad-y < 1437869016 548867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate(1:)[1] < 1437869018 136123 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1],[1,1],[1,1,1],[1,1,1,1],[1,1,1,1,1],[1,1,1,1,1,1],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1],[1,1,... < 1437869022 396924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1437869070 810501 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1437869084 93937 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1437869122 203448 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix$([1]:).(map(1:)) < 1437869123 906673 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1],[1,1],[1,1,1],[1,1,1,1],[1,1,1,1,1],[1,1,1,1,1,1],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1],[1,1,... < 1437869141 605609 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does fix do < 1437869164 523203 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix f = f (f (f (f (f ...)))) < 1437869186 971313 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric := f (fix f) < 1437869195 231988 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that with the right amount of laziness, it's constant space < 1437869219 760770 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the inner fix f is the same thunk as the whole < 1437869234 886430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src fix < 1437869234 992535 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix f = let x = f x in x < 1437869276 808490 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src iterate < 1437869276 902944 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :iterate f x = x : iterate f (f x) < 1437869332 425959 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric : = fix ((x:) . map f) < 1437869353 280861 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that will line up for me but like, nobody else, rip < 1437869355 318892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember someone asking (SO or reddit) why it wasn't the latter < 1437869381 139924 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, are there subtle, _|_-related differences < 1437869397 470715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's probably entirely equivalent semantically < 1437869427 230248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i'm wondering now is why it isn't iterate f x = go x where go x = x : go (f x) < 1437869441 472384 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like the standard thing < 1437869447 305250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check actual ghc source < 1437869467 412541 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why should it? < 1437869533 518441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm nope ghc is the same but it has a build rule < 1437869594 717178 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :it bothers me that it would be at all better, for whatever reason, to define it that way :( < 1437869608 530266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: the go prevents the f from being passed as a parameter again < 1437869616 357841 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-136-42.dhcp4.washington.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437869626 401071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure if it _actually_ matters nowadays, but it's traditional < 1437869647 913203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably it makes the recursion slightly more efficient < 1437869710 809412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the build rule for list fusion is more important < 1437869727 298803 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmyqnqjkpbldwsfq JOIN :#esoteric < 1437869737 828955 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :means the list might not be allocated at all if consumed efficiently < 1437869738 673741 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I make virtual spaces enabled in vi only when the ^V command is used? (I didn't even know about that command before yesterday when I pushed it by accident, but it seem like that command would be useful to have a virtual space mode) < 1437869784 183243 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :#include "stdio.h" < 1437869784 237376 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :void rep(char *s){while(*s)fputs(s+1,stdout),--*s;putchar(10);} < 1437869784 237457 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :void rrp(char *s){while(*s)s[1]=*s,rep(s+1),--*s;} < 1437869806 351664 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int main(){rrp("\003 *");} < 1437869835 697576 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, there is a "virtualedit" option < 1437869854 946561 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what do they do? < 1437869911 646940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^V is rectangular block selection < 1437869946 591854 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that in windows it's ^Q instead, because ^V is paste < 1437870042 187826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, virtualedit is nice, not just for ^V commands but also for some tabular stuff < 1437870072 182661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i usually only enable it when i want it < 1437870099 724021 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it makes it harder to go to the _actual_ end of line < 1437870150 880095 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can write :set ve=block for only in block selection mode < 1437870160 593718 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is what I put in < 1437870257 634700 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1437870620 203392 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYQB < 1437870620 706654 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYQB 260000Z 08007KT 20SM FEW055 FEW140 BKN280 20/14 A2995 RMK SC2AC1CI4 AC TR SLP141 DENSITY ALT 800FT < 1437871829 797061 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1437872177 794813 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437872254 338073 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1437872394 795246 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437872704 837405 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437872739 646126 :h0rsep0wer!~jjsjdkofs@191.46.114.220 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437873391 633408 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-136-42.dhcp4.washington.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437873402 659379 :h0rsep0wer!~jjsjdkofs@191.46.114.220 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437873862 28224 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437874987 49460 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seriously bothers me about ruby: https://bpaste.net/show/76f16b0a9fe8 < 1437875018 902849 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :you seriously have to write a loop, or use a really ugly ".inject{}" syntax, to sum some values < 1437875061 802385 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :which wouldn't be so bad except, http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.2.2/Array.html#M000413 llllook at all of this nonsense it DOES ship with < 1437875180 398500 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh all that on top of http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.2.2/Enumerable.html of course < 1437875251 895492 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it seems you can write [3, 4, 5].reduce(0, :+) now which is a bit better < 1437876614 384347 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby is not a very well designed language < 1437876703 12115 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :python is better. perl is worse designed but is more mature and has a better collection of libraries < 1437876786 444791 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: What's wrong with inject? < 1437876808 778124 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Doesn't have a built-in sum method" is pretty silly, of all the complaints you could make about Ruby. < 1437876817 636087 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing. there's nothing wrong with a for loop either! < 1437876831 722603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :[3, 4, 5].inject(0, &:+) < 1437876849 214852 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably slightly nicer than .inject(0, :+) < 1437876859 396873 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-urfvdsnwrhicltkn PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1..10).select &:even? < 1437876867 806066 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-urfvdsnwrhicltkn PRIVMSG #esoteric :sexu < 1437876869 280053 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :just saying, if #repeated_permutation exists, you would really expect #sum to exist as well! < 1437876939 50511 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :rubyists both (a) clearly like "big" interfaces that provide everything you need including the #kitchen_sink, and (b) take sums of things often, because everyone does that < 1437876964 202440 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck, rails even monkey patches it into Enumerable or something bafflingly Ruby-ish like that?? < 1437877058 376818 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: SHIFTED CHICKEN < 1437877698 332944 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1437878339 275150 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1437878527 218310 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wat the hell do u mean I can't use unary plus on a pointer?!?! < 1437878614 773173 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I get it. I forgot one of the plusses in my *++s < 1437878703 459734 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, you can't use unary plus on a pointer? < 1437878721 163448 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :congrats on making a no-op that sometimes doesn't work, C standard designers ;-) < 1437878723 554977 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently not. < 1437878761 437800 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :unary plus should really mean abs() < 1437878773 298921 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then unary minus should be -abs() < 1437878811 479832 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that's unary -+ < 1437878870 221010 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe +- jsut to confuse people < 1437878901 562044 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean - -x already menas different from --x < 1437879067 774487 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk QUIT : < 1437879078 35770 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1437879101 527362 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :-~+~-x == x < 1437879274 580958 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can write j++ as ~-(j=-~j) < 1437879511 527230 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also write NULL as 0xff&0xff00. < 1437879715 126454 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen -~ and ~- suggested as "+1" and "-1" operators < 1437879726 940045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by Raymond Chen, who was uncharacteristically for him trolling) < 1437879736 195519 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure which way round they are offhand < 1437879904 908530 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is OK if you cannot make unary plus on a pointer, in case a null pointer isn't zero on your computer < 1437879943 456199 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I didn't think of that but yes it can work, it look like < 1437879980 495595 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might help in some code-golfs if the precedence is wrong to otherwise write +1 and -1 < 1437880100 39541 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c printf("%d", 1+~+1); < 1437880105 237784 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-1 < 1437880152 192391 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c printf("%d", 1-~-1); < 1437880154 458462 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1437880349 811634 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: gudnajt < 1437881055 67056 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, "créée" is a word in French? or is that a typo? < 1437881062 134614 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lot of vowels to have in a row < 1437881332 274605 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a typo < 1437881345 473931 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means "created" < 1437881354 591793 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it helps, the last e is silent < 1437881365 67740 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually wait < 1437881366 581848 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1437881370 928083 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I think the last e shouldn't be htere < 1437881372 825696 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*there < 1437881400 444979 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :créée would be feminine < 1437881426 780769 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's just been too long since I'm written French < 1437881445 701900 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1437881455 760138 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently you *can* use créée for a feminine object, although it's uncommon < 1437881577 327809 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1437881994 507906 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1437882054 470338 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1437882967 331227 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I translated it as "created" from context and because I recognised the route < 1437882972 434682 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't realise it was a gendered version, though < 1437882974 736257 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the root < 1437882987 297187 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no wonder the final e is dying out < 1437883093 28442 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'm misreading, but to *me* it looks like "cr??e". < 1437883102 150189 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question marks are e-acutes < 1437883104 661322 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both of them < 1437883122 268393 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe my client sent them in Latin-1 (they're in that charset) rather than UTF-8? < 1437883138 430732 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is set to UTF-8 mode, though < 1437883155 908577 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's gotta be weirder than that, because my client on invalid UTF-8 tries Latin-1. < 1437883173 360677 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this coppro's use of the word or mine that you're checking? < 1437883197 855699 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both are showing as the string "cr??e". < 1437883201 816654 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1437883206 426479 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a misconfiguration to me < 1437883210 721781 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, no kidding. < 1437883216 166798 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can't think of any obvious ones that'd cause that result < 1437883220 452329 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially seeing two ? rather than four < 1437883240 162514 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I've been using this irssi config for ages. < 1437883250 212410 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you in screen? < 1437883250 421361 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And accented characters have shown just fine before. < 1437883252 890324 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1437883255 517488 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually that's my problem < 1437883260 536930 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :screen gets misconfigured < 1437883263 256603 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, fuck screen. < 1437883264 144236 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it fucking sucks < 1437883294 532412 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :try ^A:utf8 on < 1437883303 398454 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :screen gives two potentially broken connections, one from the inside program to screen, one from screen to the outside program < 1437883313 229055 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IME the inside one breaks more often < 1437883333 977552 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, and it's annoying because ^A:utf8 on doesn't always fix it < 1437883339 19566 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The inside one *appears* to currently be UTF-8. < 1437883367 230337 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Aaaaagh*, yep, it's definitely just doing that on all UTF-8. < 1437883371 631028 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck you screen, fuck you. < 1437883401 161021 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the description of the problem < 1437883410 651063 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing it's actually the outside connection that's broken here < 1437883413 530493 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the inside one is working fine < 1437883417 665064 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like. < 1437883433 954397 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this also means that us sending Latin-1 wouldn't help at all < 1437883450 932392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy enough to test: cre < 1437883455 234480 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :For extra fun, though, I'm *literally* using "screen -U" to attach to the session. < 1437883462 203777 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's Latin-1) < 1437883493 992577 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :... what the ever loving fuck < 1437883500 980414 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW DID THAT GET SET IN MY ENVIRONMENT < 1437883504 12663 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :LANG=C < 1437883505 857451 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-136-42.dhcp4.washington.edu PART :#esoteric < 1437883512 230566 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd do it. < 1437883517 904288 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what the fuck? < 1437883521 666375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should it be? C.UTF-8? en_US.UTF-8? < 1437883531 359938 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :en_US.UTF-8 < 1437883541 742677 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: -U is ignored when attaching < 1437883545 643191 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( `^A:utf8 on on' ) < 1437883547 800364 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a French locale installed for debugging locale-related problems < 1437883564 171407 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it got set because screen fucking sucks < 1437883590 485626 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nonono. *Outside of screen* LANG=C. < 1437883594 392406 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :screen is a constant source of aggravation to me in NH4 < 1437883596 610538 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ipbt is worse, though) < 1437883601 31150 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi pikhq < 1437883604 370045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with ipbt is that it can decode codes that it can't render < 1437883604 424264 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's Mountain View? < 1437883608 126415 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus it fails to fall back gracefully < 1437883612 334726 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Mostly good. < 1437883618 582473 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or are you in Milpitas? < 1437883620 188852 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a good view of the mountain? < 1437883626 134572 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in north San Jose ATM. < 1437883626 346531 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it misleadingly named? < 1437883632 760382 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adjacent to Milpitas. < 1437883646 632785 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: There is a decent view of adjoining mountains. < 1437883771 634685 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ohhh < 1437883807 526615 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION flips off Debian < 1437883808 356994 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437883814 603264 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is mysterious. < 1437883825 488944 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437883836 504601 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: where is your locale set? < 1437883843 843331 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally it'd be in .bashrc or the like < 1437883848 641447 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it isn't being set anywhere and is defaulting to C < 1437883861 431881 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea where it's getting set, it previously was getting set to en_US.UTF-8. < 1437883876 75735 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it's not *defaulting to C*. In that case LANG would be unset. < 1437883883 493435 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1437883885 127721 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is *being explicitly set to C*. < 1437883902 354183 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be set in some process a long way up the tree (probably not init, but…), and never being unset < 1437883916 219510 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would laugh so much if it were systemd < 1437883925 825957 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1437883946 153822 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist PART :#esoteric < 1437883950 113534 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first thought upon seeing the username: "herbs in ADOM would be Turing-complete, if it had infinitely large levels, and were designed specifically to do that" < 1437883970 953254 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obvious easy solution is a big hammer: add LANG=en_US.UTF-8 to .profile < 1437883984 259926 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :another possibility: was in the wrong #esoteric and noticed upon seeing the join method < 1437883992 589376 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that's not only easy, it's also arguably correct < 1437884059 961148 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1437884089 451283 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :In general, locale is a per-user configuration setting, after all. < 1437884177 333583 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That at least answers most of my questions. < 1437884506 623562 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1437884654 896383 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-136-42.dhcp4.washington.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437884739 792234 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have utf-8 characters in my screen statuslien < 1437884750 972190 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it never seems to mess up < 1437884783 566643 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASUS Broken 時 Jul 26 Sun 00:26 窓 0 bash 1 bash 2* bash < 1437884796 540261 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-136-42.dhcp4.washington.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437884821 753395 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-136-42.dhcp4.washington.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437884827 615730 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-136-42.dhcp4.washington.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437884832 60812 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :orenwatson.be 時 Jul 26 Sun 04:27 窓 0* bash < 1437884864 100865 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the inner screen on orenwatson.be < 1437884865 798596 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-136-42.dhcp4.washington.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437884867 607435 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-136-42.dhcp4.washington.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437886144 197542 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1437887424 758163 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437888782 103430 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-152-191.dhcp4.washington.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437889050 621648 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-152-191.dhcp4.washington.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437889074 298314 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-152-191.dhcp4.washington.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437889282 745846 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-152-191.dhcp4.washington.edu QUIT :Client Quit < 1437889406 88217 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-152-191.dhcp4.washington.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437889428 208068 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-152-191.dhcp4.washington.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437889450 66110 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-152-191.dhcp4.washington.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437889885 322110 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-152-191.dhcp4.washington.edu QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1437889994 433630 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-152-191.dhcp4.washington.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437890009 971682 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-152-191.dhcp4.washington.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437890033 298607 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-152-191.dhcp4.washington.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437890189 388432 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ijrxagtzexblfwjn QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437890409 582731 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-odqueskwbmalkziq JOIN :#esoteric < 1437890442 378402 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-152-191.dhcp4.washington.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437890473 408256 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-152-191.dhcp4.washington.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437890875 322508 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-152-191.dhcp4.washington.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437890915 298640 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-152-191.dhcp4.washington.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437890938 505042 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wallacoloo: your connection problems are spamming the channel < 1437891003 447950 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-152-191.dhcp4.washington.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh shoot. Sorry ais523. I'm troubleshooting driver issues with steam on Linux & my IRC client is configured to autoconnect whenever my desktop starts. < 1437891015 296455 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-152-191.dhcp4.washington.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll disable that for now xD < 1437891018 192523 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you probably didn't know, which is why I let you know < 1437891023 204310 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no problem < 1437891056 652823 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437891115 508453 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-152-191.dhcp4.washington.edu PART :#esoteric < 1437891310 593473 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437891861 155368 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437891931 596588 :cryptography!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437891954 272075 :cryptography!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Client Quit < 1437891986 611483 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437892091 118125 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are esoteric algorithms allowed on Esolangs? < 1437892128 408092 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have the example? < 1437892153 404979 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like dropsort < 1437892170 525223 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, go through the list, and drop any item that comes after something it should come before < 1437892186 901987 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It ALWAYS produces a correctly-sorted list, though it's a lossy algorithm < 1437892196 384129 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works in O(n-1) I believe < 1437892202 281627 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can do better: return the first element < 1437892206 236903 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(1) < 1437892225 690371 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it's O(n+1) < 1437892234 26626 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something < 1437892243 464187 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends what you are trying to do clearly, if it is better or not < 1437892247 568984 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just an index extraction < 1437892254 990073 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't count if it's constant length < 1437892257 578194 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can do even better < 1437892259 198600 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Return 0 < 1437892260 215742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's O(n) in both cases < 1437892261 862192 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(n) = O(n-1) = O(n+1) < 1437892262 991644 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or [0] < 1437892268 930331 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1437892270 331197 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird < 1437892270 877419 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you're confused about how big-O notation works < 1437892275 488851 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's asymptotic < 1437892276 744913 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am < 1437892279 278229 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as n gets larger, it dwarfs the 1 < 1437892285 270594 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never understood it < 1437892296 386463 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is it weird < 1437892309 967389 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2*n > n+1 for every n < 1437892315 308843 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: basically you omit all details that become irrelevant as n gets larger < 1437892321 489253 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1437892323 111662 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird < 1437892327 375039 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there clearly is a constant to make n an upper bound of n+1 < 1437892334 20232 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But one could argue that returning [0] is even MORE efficient < 1437892342 506105 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. the proportion of the whole thing they are tends to zero < 1437892342 608955 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Than returning the first element that is < 1437892354 518221 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: depending on your architecture < 1437892359 21826 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does < 1437892362 594026 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But as a rule < 1437892364 809491 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you ignore any effects that would simply multiply by a constant, or anything bounded by a constant < 1437892368 530473 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Literals are more efficient < 1437892386 864167 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But back to the original question < 1437892393 272762 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so O(2*n**2 + n) = O(2*n**2) (n is dwarfed) = O(n**2) (ignore multiplication by a constant) < 1437892399 856556 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are Esoteric Algorithms allowed on Esolangs? < 1437892401 59950 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fastest you can get is O(1) < 1437892403 290344 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it language-only < 1437892405 441967 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think dropsort would be < 1437892411 520146 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically because it isn't very interesting < 1437892420 82933 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe something along those lines could be < 1437892421 319393 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah < 1437892425 875074 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, the fastest is o(1) :p < 1437892426 183890 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if you made it into an esolang somehow < 1437892435 463350 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm talking about esoteric algorithms in general < 1437892439 603529 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yes < 1437892441 563563 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: does that even make sense? :-P < 1437892453 294248 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be well-encouraged to make an Esoalg in an Esolang < 1437892467 487732 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 1/n is in o(1), i don't know an algorithm with that runtime, though < 1437892469 923720 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have seen the esoteric list of sorting algorithm < 1437892473 400284 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But do you think I'd get in trouble if I created a page for an Esoteric Algorithm? < 1437892483 488324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Parts of algorithms can be faster than O(1) time. < 1437892484 700642 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: that implies it gets faster the more work it has to do < 1437892495 24884 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1437892498 598402 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. O(1/n) for part of an amortized thing. < 1437892508 2836 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But of course you end up with O(1+1/n) overall, which is just O(1). < 1437892521 30757 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1437892529 315034 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what triggered this: < 1437892531 469255 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :normal approach on randomized algorithms < 1437892532 22633 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esoteric < 1437892537 166353 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cryptological < 1437892538 478615 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Systems < 1437892550 405568 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I created the #esocrypt IRC on here < 1437892555 410095 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone who wants to join can < 1437892557 214144 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They aren't actually useful for sorting but some may have other uses in the proper program, whether it is Drop Sort or Intelligent Design Sort or whatever < 1437892563 938091 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(n log n)/n^2 is in o(1) and exists in amortized problems < 1437892581 651468 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Intelligent Design Sort is where you return the list itself, and require someone else to have laready ordered it < 1437892589 997140 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :./join #esocrypt < 1437892597 838263 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, you assume it is already in the optimial order, I know < 1437892622 301313 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had a "efficient c programming" course here < 1437892622 854732 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that was meant to be a question < 1437892628 71744 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I forgot the question mark < 1437892643 650231 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always thought we should make "unefficient assembly programming" as a contest < 1437892655 823647 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be used in cases where it is too difficult/complicated to figure out the proper algorithm to make the optimal order for whatever it is, such as if an ordinary sort doesn't work for some reason < 1437892673 123697 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: that still looks reasonable? < 1437892687 700084 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :solve a problem as slow as possible so that you cannot drop any part of the code to make it faster and still solve the problem < 1437892690 894811 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that can be arbitrarily stupid? < 1437892722 177963 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, something like stoogesort or bogosort can't be meaningfully simplified and yet is very slow compared to other algorithms < 1437892727 358199 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(stoogesort is hilarious) < 1437892740 351457 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like bogosort cannot be made faster by dropping stuff, but quicksort where you multiply your input and divide it again can < 1437892753 149478 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: What idea you have of esoteric cryptological systems? < 1437892759 59413 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :None yet < 1437892763 828539 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1437892764 154002 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I made the IRC for :P < 1437892782 953078 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. we have to make a brainfuck interpreter in assembly < 1437892800 39282 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i had students that wrote binary search for the command to execute < 1437892828 55030 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way they always have 4 comparisons and jumps for every command instead of a maximum of 8 < 1437892845 322460 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just post on here when you have some, or a section in your userpage; this channel is logged too < 1437892858 561058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: how does that compare performance-wise to a jump table? < 1437892865 802181 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm never sure whether jump tables are really fast or really slow in asm < 1437892876 616643 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did any of your students do RLE? < 1437892878 876069 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they may be the fastest < 1437892898 582110 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing is, binary search is pretty useless on real brainfuck code < 1437892924 142757 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would check in the order of how common they are in larger code < 1437892947 934362 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like + and > are way more often used than , in a typical.bf programm < 1437892970 906754 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jump table probably does work more fast. But, in what computer is this assembly language of? < 1437892998 556120 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we wrote 64 bit nasm < 1437893015 820988 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than that, nothing specifically < 1437893054 185146 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: jump tables can ruin branch prediction < 1437893086 248310 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Community portal14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43589&oldid=43202 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+430) 10Added a link to my #esocrypt IRC channel. Please don't hurt me, I just want people to know it exists, and it's more-or-less relevant. < 1437893095 15666 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, if you are using a computer with hardware branch prediction < 1437893095 956924 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please don't hurt me < 1437893110 38991 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose x86 probably does < 1437893115 729928 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :baby don't hurt me < 1437893116 742909 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I program in 6502 assembly language myself < 1437893201 852695 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is a more sensible system; I don't like hardware branch prediction it should be made in software. < 1437893251 177403 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need help with IRC :/ < 1437893262 570456 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What help you need? < 1437893265 464970 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well branch hinting is done by arranging code so that the branch being taken is the likely path, and the branch not being taken is the unlikely path < 1437893273 709386 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I set up my channel such that other people can't gain control over it by using my username? < 1437893289 137380 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Use the CS command; see CS HELP for details < 1437893295 426073 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You also need NS < 1437893300 881251 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: first you need to register with NickServ < 1437893312 180985 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do "/msg nickserv help" for info, which many clients can abbreviate "/ns help" < 1437893313 677091 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try the "NS HELP" command for details about how to register < 1437893331 961671 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you register the channel with ChanServ "/msg chanserv help" or "/cs help" for info < 1437893347 152038 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the NS and CS shortcuts were possibly designed for zzo38 ;-) < 1437893374 576883 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how about featuring funciton? :p < 1437893381 505930 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: needs a blurb < 1437893385 899069 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to put on the main page < 1437893398 834939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :having to write those is the main reason we rarely get new featured languages < 1437893565 586391 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1437893571 282979 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I registered with nickserv < 1437893593 13971 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]; Now you would need chanserv also, then. < 1437893596 235500 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1437893614 396202 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I would do /msg chanserv register < 1437893616 678016 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric : for that/ < 1437893621 71166 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that? < 1437893637 202889 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at the help files first < 1437893682 353203 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In 6502 codes to make a jump table I generally will make two tables, one with the high byte of one less than the address to jump to, and one with the low byte of one less than the address to jump to; I use macro to do this. Many people though seem not doing it like this < 1437893740 961218 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1437893745 698008 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I registered with Chanserv < 1437893756 434384 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that all I need do to keep secure? < 1437893759 485433 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to guess no < 1437893778 895028 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to remember your password < 1437893799 715395 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I remember that < 1437893801 197469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, at this point (so long as you use the channel often enough that it doesn't get dropped), you have control of the channel and can stop unauthorized uses < 1437893815 48281 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although they won't stop automatically < 1437893818 196232 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's my kind-of-secure but not-too-secure password < 1437893820 456537 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you actually have to turn up to stop them < 1437893861 354164 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437893863 989276 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1437893938 408280 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I just need someone to join :P < 1437894036 401764 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we should establish a new Mailing list < 1437894049 442733 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never been involved in a mailing list that I was actually interested in.. < 1437894050 485904 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1437894159 380589 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :advice of a friend of mine: do not subscribe to lkml unless you know you either delete regularly or have a client that can handle deleting of huge amount of mails < 1437894246 162124 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is malbolge turing complete? < 1437894279 136754 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's unknown < 1437894285 309145 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/unknown/classified < 1437894316 38661 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just write a bf interpreter in it :p < 1437894322 953055 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1437894326 411055 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT'S possible < 1437894393 721795 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ill just ask the creator < 1437894444 21298 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1437894450 668301 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT'S possible < 1437894522 738299 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walpurgisnacht: Malbolge itself isn't TC < 1437894525 776342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of finite memory < 1437894535 993381 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a variant Malbolge-T that might be, but hasn't been proven to do so < 1437894560 518669 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Malbolge seems to be able to handle arbitrary control flow and arbitrary action at an arbitrary point, so it's just the data storage that's the problem < 1437894603 23367 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I make a variant of malbolge that has a large finite memory < 1437894611 886403 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it plausible? < 1437894622 789569 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just increase the number of trits beyond 10 < 1437894627 549978 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what? < 1437894640 584747 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm starting my own Esoteric Programming Shit mailing list < 1437894654 460538 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll probably be completely uninteresting :P < 1437894661 979633 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But why not start it? < 1437894709 976721 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I could do that too < 1437894735 767104 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437894766 322383 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone who wants to join email esolangsmailinglist@gmail.com and tell me < 1437894847 310123 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how welcome is it to extend somebody elses language? should i make a fork or a section in the article with my idea? < 1437894894 158745 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1437894905 807154 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure you're supposed to edit the article itself < 1437894912 663106 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would make my own article < 1437895111 70938 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might depend, what languages are you intend to extend? Malbolge, or others, or what? < 1437895124 886173 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rail < 1437895127 470154 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would say no matter what, make your own article < 1437895146 374598 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So does anybody want to join the mailing list? < 1437895228 845063 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know what the limes are all about? < 1437895259 915206 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are tasty < 1437895285 747526 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No really < 1437895291 972291 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-urfvdsnwrhicltkn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thats the logo < 1437895303 280809 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lime is a language I think < 1437895317 857820 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-urfvdsnwrhicltkn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Limes make 99 bottles of beer taste better < 1437895373 644059 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :replacing it with anything else makes beer taste better :p < 1437895433 956015 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Replace the entire beer with lime < 1437895530 406570 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(such as in case you do not want to get drunk from too much beer) < 1437895543 22718 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and 99 is probably too much beer) < 1437895630 530164 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So no one wants to join the mailing list either? < 1437895687 235801 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I suppose nobody does at this time anyways < 1437895694 878223 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK :/ < 1437895770 336407 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its ok hppavillion[1] < 1437895783 825537 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyone who does later can write the message to you isn't it? < 1437895792 200504 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1437895794 359955 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's fine < 1437895895 974011 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1437895921 612608 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437896295 128306 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm-a-back < 1437896567 82484 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Fuck me < 1437896571 775267 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome. i have a back < 1437896727 700366 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what SQLite extensions Mozilla defines (if any)? < 1437897060 664473 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1437897200 291914 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1437897634 437852 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437897674 425601 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1437897902 411215 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1437898283 846290 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437898543 796955 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437899445 629936 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437902875 153592 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck constants14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43590&oldid=40285 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+402) 10Checked all 0-255 for wrapping, LH cells, value in current cells and general formatting. < 1437903648 355570 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1437904840 700093 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437905274 318580 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437905377 457992 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437905452 405098 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1437905477 61834 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1437906054 478898 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :data List a = [] | a : List a < 1437906067 424921 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this the actual haskell implementation? < 1437906141 267108 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, well, instead of List it's [], which is special < 1437906152 434014 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the definition is certainly equivalent to that < 1437906225 169830 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woud you be able to define something like that with the syntactic sugar yourself or does it actually need support from.the compiler? < 1437906302 916031 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437906365 761914 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs support from the compiler < 1437907086 233660 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although it doesn't in, for example, Agda) < 1437907175 305129 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437907681 187727 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's only for the data [a] or also for the : constructor? < 1437907697 250354 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. is it possible to use ? as infix constructor < 1437908175 502957 :x1365C!x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437908221 500916 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437908284 352055 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, infix constructors must begin with a colon < 1437908329 731953 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-240.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1437908335 729644 :staffehn_!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437908338 630159 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1437908391 748959 :edwardk_!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1437908432 645880 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437908670 519288 :Lymee!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1437908748 138745 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1437908748 434838 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk QUIT :*.net *.split < 1437908748 581765 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmyqnqjkpbldwsfq QUIT :*.net *.split < 1437908748 900204 :Lymia!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :*.net *.split < 1437908750 803 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1437908750 350261 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-240.rentec.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1437908750 568422 :staffehn!~quassel@staffehn.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1437908750 622727 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1437908751 116253 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1437908751 170611 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :*.net *.split < 1437908753 691505 :Lymee!~lymia@inportb/loli/cirno-chan NICK :Lymia < 1437908825 100632 :edwardk_!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk NICK :edwardk < 1437908844 533217 :x1365C!x10A94@178.252.73.97 NICK :x10A94 < 1437908909 950294 :bb010g_!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tfhcxcjzthxmqvbc JOIN :#esoteric < 1437908974 817118 :bb010g_!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tfhcxcjzthxmqvbc NICK :bb010g < 1437909149 864904 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1437909313 658656 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1437911329 898516 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437911617 850931 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1437911836 82500 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Dear friends, Good day! Glade to know you are engaged in amusement attractions." < 1437911839 135810 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know I was. < 1437911863 818606 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Laurie from Tianjin Mickrod International Trade Co., Ltd wants to sell me electric trackless trains. < 1437911925 204457 :t3cora18!~t3cora18@2001:470:8b70:1337::c0de JOIN :#esoteric < 1437911953 867609 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, spam to wiki@esolangs.org too. I haven't seen much of that. < 1437911963 132288 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spam in Swedish, even. < 1437912026 743354 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Swedish and Polish. < 1437912064 481648 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1437912097 520664 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, it's the same thing ("free link exchange"), but from "different" people, in English, German, Swedish and Polish. < 1437913306 504933 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1437913329 424633 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1437913775 10685 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slashes, enterprise edition: https://github.com/mbuettner/retina < 1437913827 332075 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually, it's more similar to Thue.) < 1437914161 688660 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://endless.horse/ < 1437915393 346669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1437915422 666486 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quick, what's sed for joining lines? < 1437915458 306240 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :tr -d \n < 1437915484 607685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: complicated, i have to look it up every time < 1437915500 434253 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed ':;N;s/\n/, /g;t' < 1437915506 712791 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to join with comma-space < 1437915535 993963 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I'll just stick to perl for this < 1437915537 877286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh all lines < 1437915549 723123 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: possibly just some lines < 1437915557 599944 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :all lines in this simple case < 1437915563 649454 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I guess I could just use ed or ex < 1437915656 785899 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :%j works in ex < 1437915786 853419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly they should just have made a stream version of ex < 1437915810 691567 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, I'm generally satisfied with doing everything with perl < 1437915815 774900 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno why I even tried sed for this < 1437915829 785470 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know perl well enough to do these kinds of things easily < 1437915868 307734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes a wind blowing up there, high above b_jonas  < 1437915895 212479 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, there's a wind < 1437915931 455016 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :be careful, it can get strong < 1437915942 859944 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Streaming ex in batch ed? < 1437915970 475837 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, Windstorm with X=7 strong potentially < 1437916488 465583 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437916507 586491 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1437916617 370387 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437916860 685355 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1437917026 966118 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437917232 609642 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1437917314 933605 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1437917355 385989 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e JOIN :#esoteric < 1437918091 343116 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1437918582 464479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] I created the #esocrypt IRC on here <-- great, now you'll get necromancers looking for the other kind of #esoteric < 1437918582 558661 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1437918624 353920 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1437918771 710748 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaurgh. mosquito bite on the top of my foot. < 1437918781 164333 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION scratch scratch scratch < 1437918810 546093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mosquitos are tiny vampires. soon you'll turn into one and start hanging out at #esocrypt. < 1437918962 217696 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mosquito < 1437918963 13143 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mosquito? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1437918970 927149 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437918976 446915 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :helleu! < 1437918989 826929 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Mosquitos are tiny vampires, sucking out your soul. < 1437918991 932110 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'mosquito': Mosquitos are tiny vampires, sucking out your soul. < 1437919003 757938 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I have a soul to start with... < 1437919015 53856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they got you earlier < 1437919086 999938 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wouldn't surprise me. once got tired counting bites after some day during a vacation. < 1437919103 18757 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we were camping in Connecticut or something. < 1437919210 88257 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1437919235 610423 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, bœrjan matin! < 1437919246 961778 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hellooodl! < 1437919267 950213 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily~ < 1437919315 319843 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 i remember which way around -~ and ~- work by looking which way the squiggle points. right is +1, left is -1 < 1437919315 550266 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1437919335 982918 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437919367 365377 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437919391 941098 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437919392 567999 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1437919392 622297 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437919437 775139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hily < 1437919495 112562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :spring -~, fall ~- < 1437919671 730788 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Tonsil A has "sqiggle" for "~". < 1437919977 384394 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 also créée is totally a (common) word! dutch has "zeeën" which is similarly typo-looking and means "seas" < 1437919977 661393 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1437920014 808574 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 that ridiculous welsh place name has "llll" in it i guess, but i wonder if there's a less contrived example (although the welsh would count it as two letters, ll+ll) < 1437920014 980375 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1437920260 687216 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course créée is a word. it has two «é» to make sure it's real! the more diacritics, the realer the word. < 1437920298 7015 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1437920323 634264 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jhellonas! < 1437920341 258932 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"zeeën" looks funny < 1437920373 91888 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is it pronounced? < 1437920387 119435 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way it's written I guess < 1437920420 572909 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Finnish has any word with more than two of the same character repeated consecutively. But there were mentions of some other oddities I found when looking for one, like five consecutive double letters ("liikkeessään") and 14 consecutive "dots" ("pääjääjää"). < 1437920430 23406 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1437920434 200933 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like bookkeeper? < 1437920457 306251 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, a compound? No, neither of those are compound words. < 1437920495 856666 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :many consecutive dots... yeah, there was some funny word with lots of dots in Hungarian. they look especially funny in handwriting styles where "ü" and "ii" looks exactly the same < 1437920530 14472 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :üïüïüïü ♪ < 1437920591 504289 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: [ˈzeːjə] < 1437920650 413462 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hungarian has specific rules that forbid three consecutive copies of the same consonant, so they're always reduced to two or written with a hyphen, probably because three wouldn't be pronounced differently from two anyway < 1437920700 598453 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: /mɛʁsi/! < 1437920736 656805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"liikkeessään" is formed approximately as "liike" (motion, shop) -> "liike" + "-ssä" = "liikkeessä" (inessive case + some mutation) -> "liikkeessä" + "-n" -> "liikkeessään" (inflection for third-person singular), e.g. "in his/her shop". < 1437920753 188434 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we have words like “tollal” (which should really be “tolllal”) and “sakk-kör” (which should be “sakkkör”, the hyphen is completely redundant but the rules ask for it anyway) < 1437920758 963491 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I guess pääjääjää is a bit of a compound, pää + jääjä + inflection. < 1437920803 864340 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :“tollal” sort of makes sense because it's pronounced like that anyway, and “Papp-pal” is fine as well, but the “sakk-kör” is a pointless rule just to make spelling harder to learn < 1437920912 253295 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finnish compound words insert a hyphen if the same vowel occurs on both sides, which doesn't happen for same consonants. Sadly, we only have double vowels at word ends/beginnings, never double consonants, otherwise you could get triplicate letters. As it is, you can only get stuff like "takaa-ajaja" with a hyphen. < 1437920973 351759 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it's possible to get a tripled vowel in a Hungarian word < 1437921011 445203 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should try to make up some compound like that < 1437921043 453389 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :using "Hawaii" would be cheating I guess < 1437921362 556714 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1437921632 424312 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1437921900 891570 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, we do have consonant elision in some case forms, which does end up in a triple vowel, but the convention is to put an apostrophe in there. So you get from "vaaka" (scale) e.g. the genitive "vaa'an" or the plural "vaa'at". < 1437922050 370819 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think there's something special in the pronunciation too, like a glottal stop or at least some sort of stress thing. It's not just a super-long /ɑ/. < 1437922120 636375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] I think by the freenode rules you should have called it ##esocrypt, hope this doesn't create any trouble < 1437922120 690671 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1437922175 809684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i have an urge to swat everyone for not mentioning that < 1437922233 165426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hawaii also has a glottal stop, in the original < 1437922234 527016 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you meant "swaaat" hth < 1437922258 980278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what, mixing conversations? how rude! < 1437922286 811000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ʋɑːːt/ is maybe how a Finnish person would pronounce an incredulous flat "what.", except I don't think ːː is proper IPA notation. The Wikipedia table has just "long", "half-long" and "extra-short", there's no "extra-long". < 1437922346 318882 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen ːː used < 1437922425 130037 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :“[The sign ː] may be doubled for an extra-long sound...” < 1437922464 553913 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1437922637 875327 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437922875 849041 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437922919 801941 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was somethink like /e/, /eˑ/, /eː/, /eːˑ/, /eːː/ for increasing lengths < 1437922947 79041 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only two length are differentiated in most languages so we just use /e/ and /eː/ < 1437923252 734827 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1437923318 373555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eːːstonian < 1437923660 968228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Replace the entire beer with lime <-- i am pretty sure i am one of the people who would _not_ find this an improvement < 1437923678 3790 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437923747 405065 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made a tiny cfluviurrh interpreter in ruby https://bpaste.net/show/6314e48df018 < 1437923775 919118 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think hppavilion[1] is breaking a fundamental rule of esolanging < 1437923787 373919 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you cannot manufacture interest in esolangs" < 1437923806 641486 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :avoid success at all cost? < 1437923827 483914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it is possible to succeed, but only by accident < 1437923843 449645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also hard work i guess < 1437923870 584813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you cannot _expect_ others to take interest. < 1437924022 740657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iow i predict both his new channel and his new mailing list to fade away shortly < 1437924051 661887 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. < 1437924070 530737 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's entirely true, though. < 1437924079 729910 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the horse-and-water case, I mean. < 1437924158 463885 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1437924196 174997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just need a sufficiently powerful hose < 1437924576 204849 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1437924583 357019 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :theer's a new esolang channel? < 1437924622 31895 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esocrypt < 1437924630 898104 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crypto? < 1437924634 840578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it's not for languages, but encryption < 1437924648 75305 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no better esoteric encryption system than using the discrete logarithm < 1437924668 343330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're just not thinking quantum enough hth < 1437924682 697226 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :g^a = x MOD m, a is the plaintext, (g,m) is the key, x is the cipher text < 1437924776 874103 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'call it "you ain't decrypting shit"-system < 1437924799 937005 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if I give you the key, you will need a lot of effort to decrypt it. < 1437924949 101011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's generally assumed for an encryption system that the _creator_ should be able to decrypt it. < 1437924965 353270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of the key) < 1437925511 495884 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437925629 150501 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like fungotcoding. you spew off enough nonsense to be picked by fungot. eventually, the recipient will have invoked fungot enough that it will have generated the original message. < 1437925629 394957 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: be sure to take certain kinds of it are < 1437925689 532819 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's good advice fungot. < 1437925689 635858 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: the original monkey king series? < 1437925697 772130 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437925748 564257 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Original Infinite Fungot Theorem. < 1437925848 488709 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437925932 567879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://endless.horse/ <-- i approve < 1437925985 904288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it would work better if fizzie ever regenerated the irc style < 1437926006 276870 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1437926114 768336 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome GoToTell < 1437926128 844825 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02GoToTell: 06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13EFnet 04or 07DALnet.) < 1437926134 773441 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you have regenerate? < 1437926150 63565 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, hello. < 1437926181 376772 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1437927158 201558 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan Don't tell me how my esocrypt system is supposed to work . < 1437927158 255815 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1437927175 690688 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :This oerjan is killing my imagination. < 1437927187 87689 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan #nocreativity < 1437927187 192434 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1437927211 518201 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :This hashtag should emphasize how serious I am about this. < 1437927223 253720 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This oerjan"? there are multiple oerjans out there? < 1437927281 657389 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :prolly < 1437927288 521520 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning < 1437927355 778132 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: There's always an equal opposite oerjan < 1437927375 559853 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloren. < 1437927394 848587 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I think an opposite oerjan is an int-e hth < 1437927846 820613 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Bitwise Cyclic Tag14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43591&oldid=38325 5* 03R.e.s. 5* (+620) 10/* Turing-completeness of BCT without arbitrary memory string as input? */ < 1437928520 566688 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: ECONOMICAL CHICKEN < 1437928535 568469 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437928956 390666 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437929230 971663 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437929716 495444 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437929984 452632 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437930376 856535 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1437930400 999607 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1437930811 555338 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bitwise Cyclic Tag14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43592&oldid=41104 5* 03R.e.s. 5* (+704) 10BCT remains TC even if the initial data-string is aways just a single 1; remove reference to defunct website < 1437930948 376348 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1437931395 980605 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any esolangs based on tag systems (cyclic or not) besides Platts and BCT? < 1437931407 885457 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-76-94.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably? < 1437931438 102230 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-76-94.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Wiki_Cyclic_Tag < 1437931525 148521 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah thanks < 1437931555 496101 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-76-94.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cyclic tags are one of those things that are done a lot because it's very simple < 1437931570 696415 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Tag exists, too. < 1437931586 562856 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-76-94.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cyclic tags, brainfuck, logical combinators, cellular automatons < 1437931606 645491 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-76-94.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is easy peasy lemon squeezy < 1437931798 857182 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, a brainfuck interpreter is usually one of the first things I write in a new language < 1437932045 640281 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1437933121 191527 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Cood14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43593 5* 03191.248.34.240 5* (+5484) 10creating page < 1437933128 139714 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily No, I'm too afraid. < 1437933128 245512 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1437933408 516334 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-butouepvrlwhsnmk QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1437933416 633850 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437933493 848585 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-kjeciaghueulncat JOIN :#esoteric < 1437933537 64946 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :language where before interpreting, the parse tree is height-balanced. < 1437933540 580707 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43594&oldid=43543 5* 03191.248.34.240 5* (+11) 10/* C */ cood added < 1437933653 117839 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :x+y*z+3 -> (x+y)*(z+3) < 1437933670 569771 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437933974 642817 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07List of ideas14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43595&oldid=43540 5* 0374.15.57.112 5* (+139) 10 < 1437933985 156215 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eyes the topic... damn, so much for that question. < 1437934306 819678 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually I'd like to questions the legitimacy of questioning the legitimacy of that question.) < 1437935185 698737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no questioning in the topic. < 1437935276 244142 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PART #esoteric :"TOPICALLY OPPRESSED CHICKEN" < 1437935276 334743 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1437935318 285433 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is with this bullshit < 1437935339 759671 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they display 3d videos with left on top and right below it!?!?!? < 1437935381 560861 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's "they"? ... and do they want a wide screen experience? < 1437935452 566144 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :speculating, it makes sense for hardware that switches polarity for the whole screen (it would display the video at twice the nominal frame rate). < 1437935562 491866 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in this case I guess "they" woudl be the authors of the mplayer plugin < 1437935645 357402 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, the real bullshit, is that someone noticed they did this and then relied on it, to encode a 2d video as 3d to avoid the copyright gestapo < 1437935648 274609 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m890zzNKoGM&feature=html5_3d < 1437935716 150458 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ... fun :) < 1437936566 990210 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437936814 969215 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437937085 127050 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it make sense to just toss my Firstr profile on the chan? < 1437937126 629738 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong channel. < 1437937468 917880 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/peterferrie/brainfuck6502/blob/master/bf6502.s < 1437937622 678907 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437937816 307155 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :google you have failed me < 1437937892 712736 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437937930 207707 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hia < 1437937981 779993 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellu < 1437937990 139116 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or did I already greet the server? < 1437937993 781332 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1437937998 672920 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cleared my screen :P < 1437938011 189438 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :helo < 1437938413 917127 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437939042 208187 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to see GUI4BF < 1437939055 84589 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BeFinter maybe? < 1437939123 790807 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1437939346 219737 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1437939372 855331 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So < 1437939375 38821 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BeFinter < 1437939381 845773 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either for Befunge or Brainfuck < 1437939776 177971 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437940129 136185 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437941027 289776 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437941638 490050 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1437942663 657671 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437942795 697963 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen a single other human being today < 1437942807 692395 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact I do not think I've seen another animal < 1437942824 46631 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feeling pretty lonely :( < 1437942898 208711 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about flies < 1437942902 734729 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time Taneb < 1437942902 958581 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for Taneb is Sun Jul 26 21:35:03 < 1437942917 698769 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I don't think I've seen any flie < 1437942918 227210 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1437942947 266703 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should come to california. lots of humans here. < 1437942969 538556 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and poutine, though maybe it's not very good < 1437942973 630165 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :California is far away < 1437942984 350196 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I could conceivably make poutine here < 1437943012 149290 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does poutine differ from what I would call "cheesy chips"? < 1437943036 91182 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gravy < 1437943062 815088 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately the gravy is usually not vegetarian. < 1437943084 221334 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not fond of gravy < 1437943084 966548 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437943093 796592 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless it is on really dry meat that needs the taste < 1437943119 43251 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well there are things that aren't poutine too < 1437943125 812397 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that pretty much covers it < 1437943137 769347 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are things here that aren't poutine, too < 1437943147 888932 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not humans < 1437943154 786602 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some humans, I believe < 1437943159 616371 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are just good at hiding < 1437943222 882467 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also like two rivers with four letter names < 1437943228 954971 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437943247 422261 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the UK is full of rivers with four letter names < 1437943278 116746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1437943279 671830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is < 1437943303 109976 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm here < 1437943308 570121 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case you missed it :P < 1437943318 642897 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some here too, though. < 1437943330 687366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We didn't miss it. No need to announce. < 1437943345 973339 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437943351 374417 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just looking for a way to announce my presence < 1437943356 850425 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I had to psychologically < 1437943376 756405 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I'm not programmed to be introduced automatically < 1437943386 198166 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what's Birmingham's river? < 1437943403 574313 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the one that goes through Birmingham is the Rea < 1437943415 172171 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That does not have four letters < 1437943425 763938 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1437943457 581088 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thames has four letters, when it's called Isis. < 1437943460 289029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it eventually flows into the River Tame, still technically inside Birmingham < 1437943462 634026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that has four letters < 1437943488 656504 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :York has the Foss which flows into the Ouse in York < 1437943497 978778 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Ouse later flows into the Hull which is not in York < 1437943567 581898 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then the Hull becomes the Humber which is neither in York nor 4 letters long < 1437943581 186286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the ones that actually go to the sea have longer names, for some reason < 1437943613 97397 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The river I'm most familiar with is the Tyne, which goes right to the sea < 1437944289 267238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1437944332 954768 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437944350 806025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1437944350 924429 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman said 4h 46m 32s ago: Don't tell me how my esocrypt system is supposed to work . < 1437944350 978676 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman said 4h 46m 3s ago: #nocreativity < 1437944356 411791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: O KAY < 1437944377 765953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mroman O KAY < 1437944377 858534 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1437944457 312458 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helloerjan < 1437945223 571887 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1437945297 559415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alohaneb < 1437945378 117377 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know of a PDF reader that can take command line input? < 1437945450 876169 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zathura, at least. < 1437945475 446397 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Run as "zathura -".) < 1437945523 31684 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, I'll try that < 1437946092 404251 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait a second, the Humber? the Humber is a river in Toronto, not England!!! < 1437946141 209656 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's where Humber College is < 1437946201 75062 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it be appropriate to create a page on the Standard Streams for educational purposes for designers, provided that a few esoteric streams are added? < 1437946250 356163 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: lots of places in North America are named after places in the UK < 1437946288 763191 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :New York, for example < 1437946291 559309 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or New Ireland < 1437946362 699885 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or New The Master Bathroom in 10 Downing Street < 1437946374 74096 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a standard stream? you mean like in C++? < 1437946379 20236 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1437946380 457195 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1437946388 763222 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stdin, stdout, stderr < 1437946402 157191 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stdeso < 1437946404 153325 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are FILE*'s not streams < 1437946408 307078 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or < 1437946410 782193 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Oh < 1437946418 147835 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you probably are thinking of cout cin and cerr < 1437946433 130841 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia seems to disagree with you < 1437946433 698724 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_streams < 1437946434 962897 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are ostreams and istreams < 1437946461 919365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: C++'s abstractions around streams are called "streams"; C's abstraction is called "FILE *" < 1437946473 675634 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the streams themselves are normally called stdin/stdout/stderr, though < 1437946496 619521 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1437946513 212080 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So should I create an article on Streams < 1437946517 733744 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Standard and Otherwise? < 1437946551 927483 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have articles on Stacks and Queues, so why not (and they're not particularly esoteric) < 1437946556 650990 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1437946557 685642 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great < 1437946607 804261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw name should probably be in the singular < 1437946621 593746 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1437946633 117760 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think that's not exactly right, since the abstraction is over UNIX file descriptors or Windows Consoles? < 1437946667 135595 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: on Windows it doesn't have to be a console, it could be a file redirection < 1437946723 63798 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm true. but either way, it's not an abstraction over a stream? a 'stream' is the abstraction. < 1437946750 8885 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have stdin, stdout, and stderr < 1437946757 961741 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to start by adding 4 more: < 1437946776 584471 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoin, esout, esoerr, and stderrin < 1437946784 536374 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esoin: The esoteric input < 1437946791 203773 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esout: The esoteric output < 1437946806 912492 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't forget the bit bucket hth < 1437946813 642767 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esoerr: When something in an Esolang goes in an expected way, you are alerted here < 1437946817 711879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :important for reversible langs < 1437946840 102275 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stderrin: Stdin:stdout::stderrin:stderr < 1437946868 208991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's for complaining to the program? < 1437946932 94027 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you might be onto something there. suppose you have a pipe series like < 1437946945 38196 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A ofile < 1437946951 521511 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly. < 1437946972 817779 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then A should be able to report errors, which B can handle transparently < 1437947004 35466 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm we need stdpraise and stdpraisein too < 1437947102 610155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a new, positively oriented paradigm < 1437947116 476583 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1437947122 366113 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stdyay < 1437947133 183679 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to add those to the program :) < 1437947233 826432 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437947241 344843 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437947656 524804 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437947668 231009 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Halp me define the Esoteric Streams < 1437947696 834358 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stderrin, stdyay, and stdyayin are not the esoteric streams, btw. They are the Extended Standard Streams < 1437948042 9861 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :stdshakeitallabout? < 1437948108 825095 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Stream14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43596 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+3232) 10Created Page < 1437948128 299560 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done! < 1437948271 91521 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437948404 126994 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm adding a list of Utility Streams < 1437948408 668561 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might get removed < 1437948421 813667 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It lists non-esoteric and non-standard streams that a language may use < 1437948425 493969 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like Sockets < 1437948427 789549 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or IRC < 1437948432 839788 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Skype < 1437948439 195372 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any suggestions? < 1437948602 190005 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: going home < 1437948689 154424 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Stream14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43597&oldid=43596 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+1009) 10Added utility streams, not sure if this should be kept. < 1437948910 472943 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :stdominic < 1437949093 540564 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, do you know where I can read Seven Crimes and Punishments? I want to learn about the end of the world, and I think that story is it < 1437949106 625550 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although afaik all songs so far only approach the end of the world < 1437949393 967968 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03EthanBierlein 5* 10New user account < 1437949588 617553 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1437949637 511343 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Client Quit < 1437949739 313655 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1437949883 122783 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437950371 527020 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb How does poutine differ from what I would call "cheesy chips"? <-- iiuc there is no potato in poutine, and the cheese is not _ordinary_ cheese hth < 1437950371 631809 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1437950418 408011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb oops i'm wrong on the first part < 1437950418 552766 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1437950437 116666 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :next time, google _first_ twsh < 1437950487 697268 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:e5d6:6944:3eaa:7b9d JOIN :#esoteric < 1437950717 917722 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437950858 999251 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1437950888 43772 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The Rea is the river flowing through Birmingham. It is jealous of the other rivers having four letters. < 1437950893 35010 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'rea': The Rea is the river flowing through Birmingham. It is jealous of the other rivers having four letters. < 1437950939 763233 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"to write some history" < 1437950976 389705 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifaa - I find acrynyms amusing < 1437950991 837211 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I cannot spell them correctly. < 1437951017 891624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1437951028 991210 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 To be fair, the C things are called "streams" too. "The types declared [by ] are -- FILE which is an object type capable of recording all the information needed to control a *stream* --" (C11 7.21.1p2); < 1437951029 45426 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1437951032 935197 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 ... "-- stderr, stdin, stdout which -- point to the FILE objects associated, respectively, with the standard error, input, and output *streams*." (C11 7.21.1p3) < 1437951033 41606 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1437951052 409848 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, chapter 7.21.2 is titled "Streams".) < 1437951070 85868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no file but i must stream < 1437951109 414427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't i remember that it's and, not but < 1437951250 387664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :those words have the same logical meaning hth < 1437951284 521187 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but when mangling quotes it's important to mangle only the necessary bits hth < 1437951306 802320 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437951479 599300 :BotLol!1876bc13@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.118.188.19 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437951500 669519 :BotLol!1876bc13@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.118.188.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. irc chat. < 1437951508 591675 :BotLol!1876bc13@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.118.188.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :never though I'd be here < 1437951512 152803 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: one kamikaze attack yearly? perhaps I should sleep instead, this isn't getting anywhere. < 1437951528 552554 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi BotLol < 1437951533 951893 :BotLol!1876bc13@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.118.188.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1437951546 950370 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome BotLol < 1437951548 144214 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08BotLol: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02EFnet 06or 13DALnet.) < 1437951617 495489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when's the last time anyone used the regular `welcome, non-ironically? < 1437951629 214996 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I thought that sentence was referring to the film _Anaconda_, which I've never seen. < 1437951642 559707 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did see the cover in another language, though. < 1437951656 45093 :BotLol!1876bc13@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.118.188.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. irc chat. lol < 1437951661 127566 :BotLol!1876bc13@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.118.188.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1437951663 462017 :BotLol!1876bc13@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.118.188.19 QUIT :Client Quit < 1437951673 810652 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't know. I thought we never use that one because it's too plain. < 1437951679 354482 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's the most sensible < 1437951681 650462 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest are showing off < 1437951691 71852 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess it's a famous science fiction story instead. < 1437951693 712545 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really I'd delete all the `welcome variants but the foreign-language ones if I could < 1437951712 713885 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sgtm < 1437951721 369741 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like `relcome since it looks just like `welcome to me ;-) < 1437951722 43903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can, in fact, do it. < 1437951741 944018 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like relcome because it's so whimsical. < 1437951743 551094 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: same, I also have colours filtered out < 1437951747 37234 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"send goats to me?" why would I do that? < 1437951747 500108 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but I'd just get reverted < 1437951765 319864 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Probably not at the moment, because I still haven't fixed reverting. < 1437951773 937472 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: because i asked < 1437951797 442090 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think people went overboard with all the welcome variations. < 1437951803 525424 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to find a Schaf instead. Or some Schlaf... < 1437951807 471457 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would not revert most of them. < 1437951810 432967 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(good night) < 1437951835 557784 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so do I < 1437951838 472434 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1437951839 577583 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `` \ ^.^ \ ̊ \ ! \ ? \ ¿ \ ' \ @ \ * \ ؟ \ WELCOME \  \  \  \ 2014 \ 2015 \ 8ball \ 8-ball \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ allquotes \ analogy \ anonlog \ arienvenido \ as86 \ aseen \ benvenuto \ bf \ bienvenido \ blessyou \ botsnack \ bseen \ buttsnack \ calc \ cAt \ CaT \ catcat \ cats \ cc \ cdecl \ c++decl \ chroot \ coins < 1437951852 441671 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME < 1437951854 213937 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE DESIGN AND DEPLOYMENT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHE < 1437951862 797434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes sense that oerjan would like famous science fiction stories, being famous himself. < 1437951882 829347 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But is he a science fiction story? < 1437951889 387729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/WELCOME < 1437951892 29724 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1437951895 251251 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a start < 1437951935 985211 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits bin/WELCOME < 1437951937 824484 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 tswett tswett oerjan elliott ais523 ais523 elliott FreeFull oerjan FreeFull ion ion ion < 1437951984 924249 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log bin/WELCOME | grep summary: < 1437951986 137396 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: revert 999 \ summary: (unknown command) \ summary: (unknown command) \ summary: (unknown command) < 1437951992 121496 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's interesting. < 1437952006 885351 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm typing on my phone so it's hard to investigate further. < 1437952055 667065 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :those weren’t wide characters though < 1437952121 807455 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, they weren’t of the right case? < 1437952154 793507 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for... < 1437952168 887354 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fullwidth characters in English conversation are kind of annoying and hard to read. < 1437952182 805163 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably that's why that entry was deleted. < 1437952197 329023 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437952230 289556 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The’yre not hard to read < 1437952230 396468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you're assuming i'd actually _read_ that famous SF story. what i've read _about_ it doesn't encourage me. < 1437952287 793053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I assumed that. < 1437952313 137398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not knowing its title isn't good evidence that you've read it. < 1437952328 419658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERM... < 1437952329 539911 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are annoying though. < 1437952451 230725 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it very much depends on the font) < 1437952531 777433 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did we have a 𝖜𝖊𝖑𝖈𝖔𝖒𝖊 and friends? < 1437952558 658131 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope not. < 1437952599 837243 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's like 13 different "fonts" in that block. < 1437952614 946620 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's hard to make out these symbols on http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/welcome.png ;-) ) < 1437952677 116050 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical bold, italic, bold italic, script, bold script, fraktur, double-struck, bold fractur, sans-serif, sans-serif bold, sans-serif italic, sans-serif bold italic, and monospace. < 1437952708 397414 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. Some day I'll read the rationale for that particular addition. < 1437953013 339339 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then there are the academic papers formatted like this. < 1437953483 873013 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH GOD THE KERNING < 1437953540 972881 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1437953562 293721 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have the only selfie on a gopher server in the WORLD < 1437953576 117478 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making myself an IRC client :) < 1437953579 829805 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1437953585 41105 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am going to head to bed now < 1437953586 554606 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight < 1437953593 584908 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm debating adding esotericness to it < 1437953597 37167 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight! < 1437953619 448593 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what’s wrong with thekerning?? < 1437953625 201520 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDK < 1437953631 766469 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just looked like it might be bad kerning < 1437953634 617523 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't sure < 1437953638 284348 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just looked bad to me < 1437953669 210666 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], you should look my up on the Wiki and see how my family tend to feel about bad kerning < 1437953669 396679 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437953672 803829 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I am off now < 1437954045 515589 :hppavilion[1]tst!~hppavilio@133-171-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437954132 724233 :hppavilion[1]tst!~hppavilio@133-171-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437954163 284011 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I have aproblem < 1437954167 59052 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a problem < 1437954169 179086 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As it turns out < 1437954176 406149 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python is really REALLY slow < 1437954200 909265 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It executes the mainloop once every few seconds oh wait nevermind < 1437954205 259639 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just takes a while to boot < 1437955297 786252 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :たていすかんなにらせちとしはきくまのりつさそひこみも < 1437955347 655384 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437955421 143687 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: what is that? < 1437955447 639431 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides tateisukannanirasechitoshihakikumanoritsusasuhinimimo < 1437955475 864602 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is apparently the result of pressing all the letter buttons qwertyuiop[asdfghjklzxcvbnm in kana input mode < 1437955487 956079 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437955505 801340 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1437955517 860293 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437955518 641592 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I screwed up < 1437955520 431903 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :゛ぬふあうえおやゆよわほたていすかんなにらせ゜むーちとしはきくまのりれゃつさそひこみもねるめ < 1437955528 384676 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/susa/sosa/ < 1437955570 156239 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't appear to be in any recognisable order < 1437955588 520954 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :aueo is kind of < 1437955598 255238 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :3456 < 1437955599 188409 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yayuyo too < 1437955609 297596 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :789 < 1437955619 837966 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wa is 0 < 1437955626 135396 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i was e? < 1437955643 107835 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1437955652 87284 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess those are kind of grouped, the rest not so much < 1437955658 63588 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be done similar to qwerty? < 1437955670 105082 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... hmm, then you wouldn't want all the single vowels on the top row < 1437955728 120481 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the vowel extender? < 1437955747 831874 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why does little ya have its own key, but little yo/yu do not? < 1437955774 578403 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437955776 128825 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ー is \ < 1437955789 453486 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok < 1437955815 316271 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how mu is farther away than the handakuten < 1437956004 250826 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Test < 1437956274 428427 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :もう、これは難しい < 1437956421 496213 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@133-171-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437956452 924927 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@133-171-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437956544 483946 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@133-171-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437956558 575957 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Test < 1437956707 73163 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC clients are _hard_ < 1437956730 531710 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :God I hope I don't need to use threading < 1437956736 606067 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Threading in python is AWFUL < 1437956770 495038 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sending this message might kind of fix it < 1437956801 443033 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@133-171-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437956871 834888 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: threading in python is fucking disgusting, yes < 1437956889 792008 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :god help C++ when it gets a networking library (asio) < 1437956922 574360 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even going to look it up < 1437956980 765331 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Lord, they'd actually manage to make something worse than BSD sockets. < 1437956993 195051 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I've not actually used asio < 1437957015 760892 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a boost lib. I'm already terrified. < 1437957024 916792 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1437957029 965954 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my understanding is it's high-power < 1437957040 520798 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you just want to send some packets, look elsewhere < 1437957060 595613 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well there's one thing it has that (sadly) standard BSD sockets doesn't. < 1437957061 493431 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to write a highly threaded webserver? probably like 6 lines, each 200 characters :P < 1437957076 259336 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reasonably full-featured DNS querying. < 1437957104 441270 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thread lightly and carry a big lock < 1437957148 126328 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The standard BSD socket lib only lets you *sanely* do A and AAAA queries. < 1437957172 957286 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which, while by far the most common case and definitely something that should be supported, is not enough. :) < 1437957206 894225 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's going to be kind of nuts once they add coroutine support < 1437957439 430452 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1437957579 448714 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437957689 400365 :t3cora18!~t3cora18@2001:470:8b70:1337::c0de NICK :h0rsep0wer_znc < 1437957763 449731 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437959026 709185 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437959142 367764 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1437959416 435468 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437960338 93346 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1437960564 333041 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1437960573 807825 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I get a intercepting HTTPS proxy for Linux? < 1437960707 614232 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1437961046 698448 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Esoteric Operating System14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43598&oldid=32513 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+255) 10/* Move this to make room for a more accurate page */ new section < 1437961073 526315 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So < 1437961122 528170 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anybody have any objections to my proposal on that page? < 1437961129 552609 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:e5d6:6944:3eaa:7b9d PART :#esoteric < 1437961564 145554 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: squid can do that http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/SslBump < 1437961621 390919 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I would like to bring up the topic of EsOSes < 1437961650 502028 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which will be an enormous endeavor to design < 1437961664 413657 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because this would be a (very simple) _graphical_ OS < 1437961681 882810 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not something like a CLI that does BrainFuck < 1437961705 26716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka it will never actually happen < 1437961736 689610 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless of course we slowly Esoterize a version of Linux. < 1437961771 672274 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The EsOS of my design would be more than just an OS < 1437961799 853171 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would also include programs like the EsoBrowser which implements the EHTTP < 1437961859 770565 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think of tthe idea of Esoterizing Ubuntu or something, oerjan? < 1437961888 450393 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: How can I tell it then to delete headers? < 1437961935 452868 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, you'll need to look at the documentation < 1437961957 634411 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :A dove flies past oerjan, shedding a feather. < 1437962061 572100 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that the ubuntu project already contains an esoteric graphical operating system underneath an esoteric user-space operating system and an esoteric web browser that implements esoteric internet protocols; it's called ubuntu < 1437962078 702396 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ubuntu was just an example < 1437962089 356342 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd just be some Open-Source derivative of Unix < 1437962127 640866 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone want to design an esoteric internet protocol? < 1437962206 653427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that if you can find enough people wanting to do such a thing, go ahead; also i don't think you will. < 1437962269 746440 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently debian runs two versions of systemd: one as root and one as user... < 1437962381 591258 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps we could design an EsOS that need not be implemented? < 1437962412 253430 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437962417 886561 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi boil < 1437962418 725410 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :y < 1437962419 702307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should stay out of this since he's obviously not going to participate < 1437962429 626603 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1437962430 841229 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get it < 1437962432 48105 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1 < 1437962433 699071 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :] < 1437962442 519464 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1437962442 574144 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 8h 8m 34s ago: No, I'm too afraid. < 1437962474 508066 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric : walrusman said 6 h 6 m 6 s ago: The password is "aaafkjeoaaefjaeljfaoeiofn" < 1437962485 156123 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie don't be afraid. it's good for you. it's for your own health. embrace. hth. fnord. < 1437962485 210386 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1437962520 699014 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're discussing EsOSes < 1437962525 734956 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want to help design one? < 1437962630 861627 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should stay out of this :P < 1437962673 851027 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1437962716 446189 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm currently taking ideas for an Esoteric Filesystem < 1437962755 833048 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you filesoterystem? < 1437962799 485498 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sentence only has a helping verb... < 1437962950 86848 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So should I start with the classic folder/file tree or should I scrap all existing logic of filesystems completely and start from scratch? < 1437962952 917550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :main verb unnecessary in these parts < 1437962960 413031 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a HTTPS proxy that can work only when the browser is opened? < 1437962975 367026 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to strip out the "Strict-Transport-Security" header < 1437963039 426285 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps instead of a file tree I could do nested file tables? < 1437963055 466422 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect Hacking Team has one. < 1437963060 694377 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something obnoxious and stack-based? < 1437963076 416203 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1437963100 644769 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the simplest possible filesystem: One big block of ones and zeroes. I'll call this FS_0 < 1437963109 479845 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just one unified file < 1437963118 750607 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FS_1 < 1437963127 194494 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Individual files, all in the same folder < 1437963134 886937 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FS_2 < 1437963136 262406 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're pushing the everything-is-a-file concept a little bit too far there. hth. < 1437963146 197993 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Files can be in folders < 1437963147 482366 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FS1 is what DOS has < 1437963150 767102 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But only one deep < 1437963156 563406 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FS_infinity < 1437963165 740786 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Files are in folders, folders can be in other folders < 1437963186 768485 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to rename that to FS infinity tree, actually < 1437963209 477962 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :A directory is a file. < 1437963219 526601 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ORLY? < 1437963227 670582 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my universe it is. < 1437963228 16035 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going by abstractiness < 1437963243 173487 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my universe is POSIX. < 1437963253 839743 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So FS 0 is also FS 0 tree < 1437963262 385669 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FS 1 is FS 1 tree and FS 1 list < 1437963269 102765 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/list/set < 1437963289 926125 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still thinking this out :P < 1437963307 574341 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One big file with everything in it: FS Var < 1437963327 722578 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything is in the same directory with different files: FS list < 1437963333 861057 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/lit/map < 1437963342 212848 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :metas/lit/list < 1437963379 335294 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm spamming a bit :P < 1437963460 642388 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has an idea < 1437963474 125863 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks up "esoteric data structures" < 1437963579 942051 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjwLBzvbt4c < 1437963951 12050 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1437964100 355317 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: RESPIRATORY CHICKEN < 1437965341 343071 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fixed my browser's HSTS support by changing the name of the header in libxul.so to contain a CRLF pair, so that it is impossible to match. < 1437965958 536093 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, now HPKP doesn't work either, but the testing page also says that if it did work then you cannot bypass it; I do want to enable HPKP but make it bypassable, but to disable HSTS entirely. < 1437966038 508678 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not bypassable HSTS (and not just "type in http:// or navigate there") rather than no HSTS? < 1437966039 348955 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437966185 850441 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437966515 853553 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :HSTS does not solve anything. < 1437966656 327569 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It solves MITMer directing you to http:// of a site you visited before then incercepting, when the site in fact supports HTTPS < 1437966779 413612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can see it is http:// then you can see what it is; make user-defined redirections if you want otherwise. If there are problem with cookies or whatever, well, my opinion no cookies and login and so on should cross protocols; HTTP and HTTPS should each have their own set of cookies. < 1437966796 163938 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should also use different cookies if the port number changes, too. < 1437966858 423144 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But cookies do cross protocols, sadly it's too late to change that. And even if they didn't, you have stronger phishing risks < 1437966956 153840 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although I suppose that would require a user savvy enough to check the domain name but unsavvy enough to trust http. Although those users might exist because there are sites out there that are actually http-only) < 1437967060 641200 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can set cookies to be HTTPS only, although a client can nevertheless be designed to implement cookies in this more strict way; ignore the security flag on cookies and instead always use whatever protocol the cookie is sent with. < 1437967197 409539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1437967599 952081 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437968241 593202 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437968303 259846 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :NoScript Lite doesn't work for me < 1437968729 953084 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1437968878 485685 :password2!~password@197.77.4.238 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437969255 919148 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My site is http-only because I don't store visitor's personal information anyway < 1437969289 150245 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only sites that nees https are those that have login and store sensitive information < 1437969307 280117 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437969648 89655 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437970388 19589 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't store visitor's personal information either, and even if I did, HTTPS would not stop me from storing them < 1437970500 939281 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the idea's not to stop you storing them, but to stop other people taking copies of them / altering them while they're in transit to or from your site < 1437970757 779734 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know, but still HTTPS won't stop the site you are connecting to from storing your information. < 1437970912 328573 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437971118 71833 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does stop intercepting, however it can be useful to intercept it yourself, so it should allow HTTPS over a plain HTTP proxy and the proxy would handle secure connections instead; you can run this proxy in the same LAN or even on the same computer for additional security, although a remote one might improve the speed if you have a slow computer. < 1437971929 86415 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made all sorts of hacks into Firefox in various places: the filesystem permissions, the SQLite database schemas, the about:config, the userChrome,js, and even hexediting the program binaries. < 1437972169 558287 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437972193 7011 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437972332 780898 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1437972422 946834 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437972429 325013 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437972707 269066 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1437972768 996309 :password2!~password@197.77.4.238 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1437972870 690440 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437973039 811686 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Esoteric Operating System14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43599&oldid=43598 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+293) 10/* EsOS file system */ new section < 1437974248 321824 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what hexediting? < 1437974866 79034 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I changed the string "strict-transport-security" in libxul.so by replacing two of the consecutive letters with a CRLF pair instead. < 1437975018 449396 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm... what for? < 1437975082 68412 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems the only way to disable HSTS < 1437975116 69764 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: has HSTS caused problems for you? or do you just want to disable it out of principle? < 1437975222 732542 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to disable it because it is a bad idea. < 1437975250 834998 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it is a bad idea made necessary for a bad existing design. < 1437975338 945745 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :HPKP would make some sense if the user could override it. HSTS is just stupid though. < 1437975558 48541 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1437976851 864149 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So.... < 1437976980 370452 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Files *must* be in folders, only one deep, is what TI-92 does < 1437977004 113756 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1437977007 261988 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Except for local variables) < 1437977017 942952 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking for a GUI project to do < 1437977022 451901 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For fun < 1437977043 424129 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, if there is any compilation of GUI project ideas, it's REALLY hard to find < 1437977104 850673 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. What kind of GUI are you using? < 1437977120 605436 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one I default to is a tcl < 1437977133 166028 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :./tk < 1437977137 709018 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Typically in python < 1437977139 918888 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So Tkinter < 1437977150 285812 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AmigaMML IDE, if you like that kind of stuff, is one kind of project I suppose < 1437977189 123923 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll add that to the list of ideas < 1437977194 414165 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess a simple OS is good too < 1437977226 725708 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, a GUI of a OS can be another idea < 1437977244 295475 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to start compiling a list < 1437977257 95815 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I have a website, I'll format it properly and publish it < 1437978547 88037 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437979467 844046 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 56 * 789e+999999999 < 1437979473 81012 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1437979477 793812 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes < 1437979501 24114 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a really big number that is below a googol < 1437979515 397084 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: do you mean an esoteric one? < 1437979536 830983 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One what? < 1437979541 844644 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OS? < 1437979547 89560 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, gui project < 1437979552 207370 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric (gui project) < 1437979552 669178 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1437979556 979294 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esoterism is optional < 1437979576 378642 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ok, do you want an easy one or a hard one or a very hard one? < 1437979596 336566 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any of the three will do < 1437979695 435603 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: very hard one: a PDF viewer with interface that doesn't get in your way: controllable with keyboard and mouse such that you can hide all the toolbars and menus and such so they don't cover parts of the screen, preferably based on the xpdf backend as forked by okular, and most importantly: EASILY ADJUSTABLE GAMMA SETTING, per pdf, and possibly separately for text and images < 1437979718 546488 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, let's scale it back a bit :P < 1437979719 195146 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: possibly hack the missing parts of this into okular < 1437979731 445648 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something easy or slightly hard < 1437979799 275622 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :p: < 1437979834 794096 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard one: a raster image viewer with interface that doesn't get in your way, controllable with keyboard and mouse such that you can hide blah blah, adjustable gamma setting, and adjustable setting for how zoom is antialiased so you can get nearest neighbour or some more expensive interpolation, < 1437979871 107404 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's go with something I could actually _do_ < 1437979876 941753 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a thumbnail view for all images, and if I specifically ask, it should be able to rotate photos by 90 degree and save the rotations in _a separate file_ rather than in the photos. < 1437979877 46966 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just using standard widgets < 1437979891 156823 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :image viewer with zooming should be a standard widget I think < 1437979899 6780 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should < 1437979902 168992 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure it is though < 1437979929 463858 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy one? dunno, let me think. the problem with easy ones is that I just don't use GUIs for those. < 1437979945 612918 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minesweeper is a simple GUI project < 1437979946 754659 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of < 1437979958 451107 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a beginner's final project as a beginner sometimes < 1437980037 283076 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh btw, for both the image viewer and pdf viewer, I'd like the mouse panning speed customizable as a signed floating point number. < 1437980047 545253 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because some people actually like reverse pan. < 1437980057 295152 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah... < 1437980061 535979 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll remember that... < 1437980071 517192 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Weirdos) < 1437980090 94192 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tabbed out < 1437980102 811352 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reference me by name to get my attention < 1437980293 5560 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should write this down so I won't forget any feature when I write my letter to Father Christmas. < 1437980430 175595 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: hhhh < 1437980812 566753 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://docs.google.com/document/d/1V7Ewci21-4dNp3hzORuzljOpTJeim8Vb1-qnHhLzugk/edit?usp=sharing < 1437980814 761763 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There < 1437980838 884757 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I trust the people here enough to share that link for anyone to submit ideas, doable and otherwise. < 1437981870 596991 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437982476 415003 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- In tests, 0x09 out of 0x0A l33t h4x0rz prefer it :) < 1437982787 592908 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437982883 149303 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So? < 1437982894 134786 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoever that was just viewing my doc? < 1437982908 239152 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think of what I have so far? < 1437982975 709360 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you use Google Docs, it isn't very good < 1437982987 436684 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it useful < 1437983000 784934 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1437983007 409356 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a better free collaborative online document editor I should know about? < 1437983047 411361 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MediaWiki I suppose < 1437983056 856282 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1437983065 562317 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this is just a draft I'm going to put on my website < 1437983076 623209 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This isn't the final share < 1437983113 554847 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or use a FTP server < 1437983198 41402 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well FTP isn't a very good way to transmit text like this, IMHO < 1437983330 377995 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When it can be made on a website, make it a website < 1437983489 977280 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the philosophy I subscribe to < 1437984495 586216 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437986665 507868 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-215-164.w92-151.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1437986967 119501 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437986994 350158 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1437987245 881405 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1437987257 883043 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-urfvdsnwrhicltkn PRIVMSG #esoteric :google docs is awesome < 1437987285 947775 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-215-164.w92-151.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1437987493 817825 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1437987641 910257 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my main issue with Google Docs is that it plays rather fast and loose with the HTML it uses internally, especially if you copy/paste from Word < 1437987679 276573 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord. < 1437987683 646726 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1437987728 112070 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-215-164.w92-151.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1437987736 644701 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-urfvdsnwrhicltkn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inter-suite compatibility is something I've never seen < 1437987762 295954 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't we just use HTML for documents? < 1437987883 683034 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML isn't restrictive enough < 1437987889 400785 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus allows way too many ways to write the same thing < 1437988075 92677 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437988139 372498 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1437988163 940886 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :So? < 1437988180 212102 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as it's rendered correctly why would that bother me? < 1437988202 682547 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1437988286 92631 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: because editing (especially collaborative editing) can easily make the formatting inconsistent in a way that's very difficult to fi < 1437988287 769055 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fix < 1437988296 396652 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know all this from personal experience) < 1437988299 977839 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean WYISWYG editing? < 1437988305 230766 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*WYSIWYG < 1437988313 20026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I mean editing via Google Docs specifically < 1437988330 713365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's due to the general issues of WYSIWYG editing of HTML < 1437988346 859803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if it allows inline styles but not separate CSS < 1437988948 448448 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1437989058 874526 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is why you can use MediaWiki or even just plain text, if HTML isn't restrictive enough < 1437989109 134258 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For many kind of documents plain text works just fine, although for collaborative work it still help to have automatic changelogs < 1437989150 552664 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1437989169 862082 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :From an architectural standpoint.... I think pyongyang looks amazing. < 1437989238 560952 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least the parts that are shown in this video. < 1437989626 730476 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: How can I do bold blinking text in plaintext? < 1437989636 188172 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, to get people's attention? < 1437989699 921507 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Micosoft Word totally has Text Effects! < 1437989704 908222 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or had. I'm not sure if it still does.) < 1437989761 872825 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nooooo!! < 1437989765 283227 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :They removed it in 2013. < 1437989805 463515 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? word < 1437989820 815842 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :word? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1437989840 843606 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? word (Microsoft Word) was a text-editor for animated texts but not anymore. < 1437989841 633069 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :word (Microsoft Word) was a text-editor for animated texts but not anymore.? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1437989847 716312 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn word (Microsoft Word) was a text-editor for animated texts but not anymore. < 1437989851 75102 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'word': word (Microsoft Word) was a text-editor for animated texts but not anymore. < 1437989991 289554 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: shouldn't that mention "winword" too somewhere? that's what it was called by default for some time < 1437990008 912307 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I renamed it, but only so that I can run two versions at the same time. < 1437990582 838254 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: In some case you don't need such thing, anyways if you print it out it is hard to blink. < 1437990635 127205 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What? but users do expect the printed versions to be animated too. < 1437990659 296552 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least if the internet stories about typical stupid users are true. < 1437990675 46387 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am aware of that. < 1437990712 916566 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, what is the URL for your gopher server? < 1437991269 670440 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's not microsoft's fault printers suck at printing animations. < 1437991291 195132 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Word was just decades ahead of printers. < 1437991325 752799 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm certain if printers were advanced enough Microsoft had done everything to make animations work on prints as well. < 1437991338 820957 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could have spinning word-arts! < 1437991386 899573 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1437991389 726346 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even better! < 1437991419 540660 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could have had power-point effects on OHP! < 1437991434 458763 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437991436 759631 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :with plastic foils that support animations. < 1437991450 436689 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1437991452 653159 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it "sheet"? < 1437991457 153269 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you call that thing in english? < 1437991470 575616 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :transparent sheet? < 1437991494 495777 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :slide? < 1437991516 784088 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :overhead projector transparent celluloid foil slide or whatever < 1437991552 377100 :x1365C!x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437991562 580549 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently "transparencies" < 1437991581 735720 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transparency_%28projection%29 < 1437991629 226093 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they're called "cels" in the context of animation. < 1437991646 964266 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A cel, short for celluloid, is a transparent sheet on which objects are drawn or painted for traditional, hand-drawn animation. Actual celluloid (consisting of cellulose nitrate and camphor) was used during the first half of the 20th century, but since it was flammable and dimensionally unstable it was largely replaced by cellulose acetate. With the advent of computer-assisted animation ... < 1437991652 997440 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... production, the use of cels has been all but abandoned in major productions. Disney studios stopped using cels in 1990 when Computer Animation Production System (CAPS) replaced this element in their animation process." < 1437991663 940684 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence "cel shading". < 1437991707 764836 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1437991711 394120 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :overlay transparencies < 1437991714 757378 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily It's not that, I'm afraid it'd alter fungot's PERSONALITY, because it's a whole different thing I'm using now to make them models. < 1437991714 900045 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1437991715 111978 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: did you *just* implement call/ cc in terms of lambda abstraction and application, too < 1437991718 275972 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and move the ones that need moving < 1437991724 459825 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a nice documentary about that on youtube < 1437991756 203134 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: No, I didn't. < 1437991756 560315 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: at least that's how i find it curious that this seemingly nonstandard extension is the default size? < 1437991800 461073 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1437991922 673733 :x1365C!x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1437991986 181973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437992031 384480 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437992071 485936 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1437992468 513408 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437992516 130098 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1437992796 52383 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1437993009 560679 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Can you play the harp? < 1437993009 772042 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: really cool would be some defined database types... e.g. id like to mind. < 1437993032 219704 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile germany wants 48h weeks . < 1437993156 30538 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's like only two days < 1437993165 262223 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are they going to do with the other five!? < 1437993187 493739 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: sleeping, eating, commute, leisure, I guess < 1437993207 549900 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sleeping again to make five < 1437993214 830438 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, a 48h work week? < 1437993227 429870 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 48 / 6 < 1437993228 634887 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 8.0 < 1437993232 38211 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 9 + 8 < 1437993233 363140 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 17 < 1437993241 956033 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's 9 to 5 six days a week! < 1437993257 308769 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1437993271 442811 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AIUI it's a common scam to try to persuade your workers that doing that's normal < 1437993307 300040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the EU has maximum work hours for this sort of reason (but unfortunately there are too many loopholes involved, e.g. in the UK it's possible to opt out, and businesses put you under a lot of pressure to do so) < 1437993309 337005 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A six-day work week *was* normal, right? < 1437993441 579609 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, at one point < 1437993452 150346 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although then it also tended to be limited by available daylight < 1437993463 894980 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so eight hours every non-Sunday every month would be unusual < 1437994206 791350 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBL < 1437994269 22616 :Hoolootwo!~Hooloovoo@sorunome.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1437994299 628785 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1437994667 227878 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1437994674 411018 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Inappropriate key specification" < 1437994675 715181 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... < 1437994677 563121 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :good message. < 1437994900 724072 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: lunch < 1437995101 258411 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1437995198 447451 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :java.security.spec.InvalidKeySpecException: Inappropriate key specification: IOException: ObjectIdentifier() -- data isn't an object ID (tag = -96) < 1437995203 328507 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.. that's a little bit more detail :D < 1437995206 215877 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still < 1437995207 539818 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF! < 1437995240 319856 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrelloman. you're doing nasty java stuff. this is inappropriate. < 1437995256 41850 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437995288 663689 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :java.security.spec.InvalidKeySpecException: Inappropriate key specification: IOException: DerInputStream.getLength(): lengthTag=127, too big. < 1437995292 119034 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on :( < 1437995516 259959 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :parsing ASN.1? < 1437995521 548265 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1437995521 602753 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 1h 3m 26s ago: It's not that, I'm afraid it'd alter fungot's PERSONALITY, because it's a whole different thing I'm using now to make them models. < 1437995534 412067 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie *gasp*! < 1437995534 466515 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1437995677 630229 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1437995683 731672 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm doing a p2p message networking system < 1437995690 279611 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you have to exchange public keys and stuff < 1437995695 287796 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :to verify each others identity < 1437995700 495962 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :every message is signed ;) < 1437995706 692813 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory < 1437995711 258806 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now pulbic keys can't be loaded :D < 1437995728 304425 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. now it works < 1437995729 47683 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine. < 1437995809 2343 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437996078 932776 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1437996272 736053 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: WHETSTONE CHICKEN < 1437996327 78531 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although this probably consumes a lot of CPU < 1437996331 411541 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it signs every single package :D < 1437996854 766246 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :java.security.SignatureException: invalid encoding for signature < 1437996855 502985 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :rats < 1437996889 602986 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437997008 566298 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e JOIN :#esoteric < 1437997395 415469 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. finally everything works < 1437997964 360454 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437998003 751740 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: So I can close all the bugs in our company bug tracker as fixed, then? < 1437998157 495546 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1437998166 88321 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to pay for something over the phone recently, because there were technical problems with paying over the Internet (which I suspect were caused by the connection dropping at exactly the wrong moment) < 1437998182 960198 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked them to send a receipt by email so that I had a record of the transaction < 1437998211 789356 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they did so: it's a scanned-in copy of the physical paper receipt that was produced by their credit card reader < 1437998216 602851 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow I find this hilarious < 1437998285 616568 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No wooden table, though? < 1437998310 428743 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: no idea, if you mean http://theevilliouschronicles.wikia.com/wiki/Seven_Crimes_and_Punishments_(story) < 1437998318 431083 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1437998326 438729 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I paid something with a debit card on a ferry, and they used one of those old-fashioned things where you put the card in and drag the handle back and worth and it copies the embossed numbers. < 1437998336 91275 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-215-164.w92-151.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1437998343 480318 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it took 2-3 weeks to show up on the account. < 1437998358 496983 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a bit surprised they accepted a debit card for that. < 1437998425 568832 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: because it might not have had money in? < 1437998444 50314 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that, and just in general, I associate those things with credit cards explicitly. < 1437998446 248416 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think most financial transactions rely on the principle of "most people are honest, and most people who aren't can be caught and sued for the money" < 1437998457 158188 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think debit cards are typically also credit cards < 1437998461 771755 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one isn't. < 1437998463 383974 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the UK I've known them to be used for cheque guarantee cards as well < 1437998485 622056 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1437998505 848621 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the precursor to a debit card, a "Visa Electron" I used to have in Finland, was unusable in many places, because it was (at least supposedly) strictly online-only. < 1437998506 529467 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1437998521 627670 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Repeating:] And the precursor to a debit card, a "Visa Electron" I used to have in Finland, was unusable in many places, because it was (at least supposedly) strictly online-only. < 1437998530 518514 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: at least in the UK, debit cards typically can't be used for purchases on credit unless you have an arranged overdraft, which you usually don't < 1437998556 987839 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I used to have a Visa Electron; it was mostly only intended to be used in cash machines < 1437998567 96717 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although some websites did accept it < 1437998574 462683 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. Also at POS terminals in shops. < 1437998578 992483 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shops didn't (at least the only one I tried to use it at didn't), so I had to find a cash machine nearby < 1437998596 394439 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least in Finland "normal" shops did/do accept it. < 1437998610 692398 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it's been somewhat phased out in favor of Visa Debit. < 1437998618 752389 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Visa Debit seems to be accepted everywhere < 1437998632 700627 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they still have Electron cards for young people etc. < 1437998665 357163 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a debit/credit card too, and sometimes the people don't ask, just assume debit or credit. < 1437998685 856153 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And/or ignore what you tell them. < 1437998745 291207 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well < 1437998750 749632 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :just make sure you add a "won't fix" label < 1437998757 786599 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "works for me you dipshit" < 1437998790 419638 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have a "won't fix, intended behavior" status. < 1437998803 47326 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, then abuse the hell out of that. < 1437998835 575213 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a "not a bug, feature" label < 1437998844 598536 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "not a bug, marketing reasons" < 1437998846 94297 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1437998865 724535 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"crashes randomly every week" ==> "not a bug, marketing reasons" < 1437998886 612630 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aka otherwise nobody would buy the next version coming out next month) < 1437999150 875733 :white_bear!~white_bea@106-185-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1438000568 769941 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438000692 676725 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438002042 88673 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1438002081 312953 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1438002096 746297 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a debit card and a credit card, which are both green, with a Visa symbol, a +Plus and an Interac sysmbol on them. it is confusing, because they are only distinguished by a tiny word that says "credit" on one and "debit" on the other. < 1438002519 424961 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: yeah. it's even worse about virtual cards. < 1438002552 797172 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more fun if you have a reddit card too < 1438003085 112170 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a Visa debit card < 1438003453 311539 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1438003691 301235 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you have a credit card? < 1438003691 767904 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: it was in here a few weeks while waiting for the ehlo answer, whether he supports fnord and so i do < 1438003819 34972 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mail servers with fnord support? < 1438003917 366766 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What's the RFC for that? < 1438003917 685685 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: short-term versus long-term " currently in php but i could install run?' using fnord. < 1438004433 979716 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1438005430 332704 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438005446 582007 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438005542 572644 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I were a malware developper < 1438005547 701977 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd use images to transport malware < 1438005559 504576 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then extract the code dynamically through javascript from the image < 1438005561 341657 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1438005562 450364 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then execute it < 1438005652 918943 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438005654 248364 :Hoolootwo!~Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that javascript is supposed to not run malware < 1438005658 768446 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438005672 427690 :Hoolootwo!~Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that that works... < 1438005775 278518 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any suffiecently advanced malware is indistinguishable from non-malware". < 1438005832 318109 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: it might be distingushable from obvious non-malware, though < 1438005834 611513 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1438005879 155827 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any sufficiently advanced program is malware. < 1438005882 379992 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably better. < 1438005901 386823 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1438005907 344814 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, I like that < 1438005940 821954 :Hoolootwo!~Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's truer than I'm willing to admit < 1438006002 362476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1438006131 288821 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1438006166 192899 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q: What is perl useful for? A: Writing a syntax highliter for perl code using regular expressions. < 1438006220 956774 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1438006331 409359 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl is really hard to syntax-highlight < 1438006345 512473 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far Kate holds the record out of programs I've tried, but even it screws up sometims < 1438006348 606082 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sometimes < 1438006377 264326 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or, well, Perl is TC to syntax-highlight because you can write code that runs the instant it's parsed and can change the parsing of the rest of the file as an effect) < 1438006415 549894 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, or even code that's read twice and parsed differently in the two parses < 1438006440 218181 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, polyglot hilighting. < 1438006448 979001 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care, because I don't syntax highlight anything, and I think syntax highlighting is a bad idea in genreal. < 1438006449 117013 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Check out the „American Fuzzy Lops“ < 1438006460 740175 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Semiautomatic JPeg-Fuzzing < 1438006461 391674 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can't read the code without help from the computer, then the code is written unclear. < 1438006482 892820 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I disagree with that. < 1438006485 736255 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the unclear code that should be fixed, not the highlighting. < 1438006502 576581 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :visual cues help you read code faster < 1438006511 251489 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heared some counter-arguments, like how it helps catch errors when you write the code, or stuff. < 1438006519 472160 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example highlighting return statements makes you see them much better < 1438006534 362237 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, it shows you syntax errors before you hit "compile" < 1438006551 835137 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also auto-complete really increases productivity < 1438006562 623976 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not really that much related to syntax highlighting itself < 1438006584 263993 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Auto-complete is just horrible. It makes people type a word once, with a typo, and then copy the typo everywhere in the code, and they never read it. < 1438006585 449490 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I like editors that can highlight and format code automatically < 1438006587 615717 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate that. < 1438006595 180039 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I have to replace the typo globally. < 1438006596 394347 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: That does happen, yes :) < 1438006606 983434 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why eclipse has a "rename" < 1438006610 969491 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which renames all references as well. < 1438006614 768976 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1438006633 644193 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for "before you compile", I think that's distracting, when I write code I want to concentrate on the code I write, I can fix typos in a later pass. < 1438006646 248264 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want the editor interrupting me with the typos that I'll find when compiling. < 1438006651 792491 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but otherwise you'd need to have the documentation of all the things open somewhere < 1438006657 206171 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then switch between eclipse and the documentation < 1438006666 355487 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that is just annoying. < 1438006699 144535 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well sure, requesting documentation (or matching parenthesis) with a keystroke is fine, just don't distract me with that info while I'm writing stuff. < 1438006723 336317 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :matching parenthesis sucks :) < 1438006728 289687 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate when eclipse does that < 1438006752 868343 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd prefer if it had a command that "closes open parentheses" < 1438006771 22346 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, does what exactly? < 1438006771 841662 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can write things like Math.abs(Math.min(a,b and then hit that command < 1438006775 659590 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1438006776 121140 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use eclipse < 1438006789 968518 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you use auto-complete sometimes eclipse will automatically insert arguments < 1438006796 490086 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1438006800 863441 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wrote Math.abs(foo); < 1438006807 86361 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you want to change that to Math.sqrt < 1438006812 512256 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it will result in Math.sqrt(p)foo; < 1438006820 988483 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's somewhat annoying sometimes. < 1438006842 330190 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a command that jumps to the matching parenthesis to the one under the cursor, bound to a keystroke. Luckily, most sane editors have this already. < 1438007069 524251 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ToDO before I die: Write a LISP compiler < 1438007070 757236 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... < 1438007073 215705 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still haven't done that < 1438007090 874980 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :someday I will! < 1438007252 302313 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright, I'll do it now. < 1438007366 152102 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1438007380 969799 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438007389 702214 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1438007397 174614 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :poland/Połąńd is a European country. Its population consists of two main ethnicities, the North Połes and the South Połes. < 1438007408 509821 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: can you tell a bit more about the goals of what lisp compiler you want? < 1438007528 80760 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. I just wanted to write a compiler for some restricted LISP-Dialect < 1438007568 883787 :Hoolootwo!~Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should makenit < 1438007582 943905 :Hoolootwo!~Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit phone < 1438007598 438313 :Hoolootwo!~Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway you should make it a lithp < 1438007810 155651 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1438007818 412474 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: hmm. ok. < 1438008424 14089 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright < 1438008425 867318 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :parser is done. < 1438008443 25765 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/RDtFNClF < 1438008445 661923 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love parsing Lisp. < 1438008446 948160 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too easy < 1438008746 568410 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1438008751 230140 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :do I need a garbage collector? < 1438008764 1545 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, just let it pile up. < 1438008771 762604 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I meant something else < 1438008790 780041 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Require the programmer to call 'free' for every 'cons'. < 1438008794 371995 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1438008797 956042 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :in like uhm < 1438008818 906243 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cons (foo) (list 1 2)) you can free the (list 1 2) after the cons call < 1438008835 32405 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can? < 1438008848 223960 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess you can free whatever you want whenever you want. < 1438008852 26137 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1438008853 508822 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut up < 1438008854 562282 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1438008877 226323 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait that's not cons < 1438008881 802361 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant append < 1438008907 372026 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reference counting is usually easiest < 1438008911 727985 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't work in all cases < 1438008912 613890 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1438008924 478306 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question is: Do you need a case where it doesn't work? < 1438008942 625848 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cyclic data structures, right? < 1438008942 731734 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you need cycles? < 1438008947 259834 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1438008949 195034 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you need them? < 1438008958 279822 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just ban cycles. < 1438008965 243924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Declare them undefined behavior. Done. < 1438008966 868557 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I'm pointing at, yes. < 1438008968 977862 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ban cycles. < 1438008988 513109 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's good enough for Perl, it would be good enough for you. < 1438008990 496702 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are not required for turing completeness? < 1438009001 735966 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and most data structures arent cyclig < 1438009006 5251 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turing completeness is scow. < 1438009021 513838 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should make your lisp thing not be Turing complete. < 1438009022 870120 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, they are not required for turing completeness < 1438009026 996398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turing complete things aren't reasonable. < 1438009077 60055 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait... < 1438009085 38314 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :lisp doesn't have references wimre? < 1438009088 258216 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1438009093 896406 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :mutating a list always results in a new one < 1438009103 124308 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you always copy everything you don't need a gc anyway < 1438009128 756069 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you always copy everything you need a gc all the more < 1438009135 37025 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you build up garbage very quickly < 1438009135 460513 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1438009141 632409 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you copy and free immediately < 1438009143 634326 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that < 1438009149 334015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :freemediately < 1438009151 536983 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :append would just create a new list < 1438009160 126066 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :copy the elements of the two lists into that new list < 1438009164 674322 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a man, a plan, append < 1438009165 172000 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then frees the two original lists < 1438009169 239686 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you don't need no gc < 1438009176 604594 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be horribly slow though < 1438009180 99978 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want horribly slow < 1438009180 816211 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1438009185 946223 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright. Reference counting it is. < 1438009247 352658 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although < 1438009247 987255 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. < 1438009262 239651 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lisp is usually copy-on-write < 1438009264 243029 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use a real gc < 1438009267 891871 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way < 1438009269 70491 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1438009306 501032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll be correct and simple. < 1438009308 238559 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll guess I make append and append! < 1438009314 653827 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :gc needs threading < 1438009320 817154 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(usually) < 1438009322 129877 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it doesn't? < 1438009325 488074 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make a stop-the-world GC. < 1438009329 611425 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :pff < 1438009332 254975 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's even more horrible < 1438009334 304999 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You were going to make stop-the-world reference counting. < 1438009350 444676 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1438009356 335773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :GC and reference counting are the same thing. < 1438009368 992812 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://researcher.watson.ibm.com/researcher/files/us-bacon/Bacon04Unified.pdf < 1438009387 237244 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could use both < 1438009388 847927 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's simple < 1438009391 379853 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :use reference counting < 1438009397 816881 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then from time to time the GC with cycle detection kicks in < 1438009401 606983 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except they find the greatest and least fixed points. < 1438009403 928012 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.pvk.ca/Blog/2012/02/19/fixed-points-and-strike-mandates/ < 1438009442 653070 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A moment ago you were talking about copying the entire heap with every instruction. < 1438009463 880934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which is pretty much what a GC would do, except less frequently.) < 1438009768 259866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : lisp doesn't have references wimre? <-- some lisps have mutable cons cells < 1438009778 134032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :RPLACA < 1438009874 123472 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess making it really unpronouncable is one way of warning people away from it. < 1438009899 732501 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scheme would call that set-car! with the scary exclamation point. < 1438009959 38269 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it create references or copies of its argument into the cons cell in question? < 1438009971 954135 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :suddenly, it starts mattering < 1438009981 317164 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with references you could place a cons cell inside itself) < 1438009994 526051 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : i'll guess I make append and append! < 1438010002 788315 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like this is already the plan < 1438010019 262024 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure, the plan seemed to be changing every second. < 1438010020 866264 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :append! is for when you're really enthusiastic about your appending < 1438010024 446072 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :RPLACA and NCONC are such good names < 1438010042 291899 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :factorial! < 1438010071 932302 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :every common lisp name is great < 1438010074 84293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like PROGN < 1438010105 841804 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://sprunge.us/eGfb < 1438010129 20469 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think some implementations would pretty-print that a little better. < 1438010200 493987 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason, it never crossed my mind that it'd give you an infinite string of open parentheses < 1438010210 163941 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like the opposite of Lisp in a way < 1438010237 138239 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix show < 1438010238 818673 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\... < 1438010260 150911 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes sense. You start at t; it's a cons cell, so you print '(' and then look at the car; that's t, a cons cell, so you print '(' and then look at the car; ... < 1438010305 237916 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, it makes perfect sense < 1438010306 88923 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1438010313 112883 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just hadn't realised that that's what would have happened until I saw it < 1438010378 459987 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a mzscheme (what was it now, racket?) implementation here, I think it should've printed something like #0=(#0# 2). < 1438010392 675634 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something like that, I forget the exact syntax. < 1438010509 140276 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1438010515 368018 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not sure that Racket has set-cons! < 1438010520 455648 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or set-car! < 1438010537 681686 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's one of those Schemes with immutable cons cells. < 1438010550 872126 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it had something like 'mcons' for mutable cells, and some pair of setters. < 1438010569 97217 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mcons, mcar, mcdr, set-mcar! and set-mcdr!, apparently. < 1438010575 981090 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And mpair? as the predicate. < 1438010599 708849 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not how it was when it was still called MzScheme, though. < 1438010649 219848 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it switched to immutable cons by default before renaming to Racket. < 1438010659 276226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's possible. < 1438010680 478751 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also means you have to jump through hoops to get cyclic lists out of the immutable pairs. < 1438010708 496743 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (define t (mcons 1 2)) < 1438010708 551010 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (set-mcar! t t) < 1438010708 551071 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> t < 1438010709 38033 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :#0=(mcons #0# 2) < 1438010713 124952 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in < 1438010713 230823 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1438010713 285083 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1438010717 978547 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, lambdabot < 1438010721 86150 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack < 1438010721 192361 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1438010725 642248 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, I got it (almost) right. < 1438010726 735721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#1=( is the best syntax < 1438010747 638415 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: That was an interesting error for the first thing. < 1438010758 903337 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like a lambdabot bug. < 1438010761 473096 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (define t (mcons 1 2)) < 1438010763 279398 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: ‘define’ Not in scope: ‘mcons’ < 1438010763 386076 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1438010763 440323 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : ‘cons’ (imported from Control.Lens), < 1438010768 156139 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've seen it before. < 1438010776 731710 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would've been #0=(#0# . 2) before the mcons thing, actually; forgot it was a pair, not a list. < 1438010895 445723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : That's not how it was when it was still called MzScheme, though. <-- i thought racket was PLT scheme? < 1438010964 363059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was called Dr. Scheme. < 1438010964 942433 :rodgort!~rodgort@2607:5300:100:200::160d QUIT :K-Lined < 1438010973 917591 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what now < 1438010975 775946 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It was MzScheme before that. < 1438010985 205556 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :MzScheme for the engine, and Dr. Scheme for the GUI, or some-such. < 1438010994 421494 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it went PLT, then it went Racket. Or that's at least my recollection. < 1438011040 653123 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it's a branding thing. < 1438011047 346464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The company was PLT from the get-go, anyway. < 1438011057 905553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But "mzscheme" was the command-line thing you ran. < 1438011058 829608 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I thought it was PLT for the fancy system, MzScheme for the important scheme interpreter part, < 1438011063 534918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think MzScheme was part of PLT Scheme. < 1438011065 629272 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it became Racket as the new branding < 1438011082 579015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the end it's all the same software. < 1438011092 742460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a racket < 1438011121 68974 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :DrScheme was maybe the teaching-oriented programming environment. < 1438011124 298992 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was also MrEd. < 1438011143 155588 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear. < 1438011152 597668 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the important part is MzScheme < 1438011153 659942 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The old PLT pages say "MzScheme is the name of the core virtual machine for PLT Scheme" and "DrScheme is an interactive, integrated, graphical programming environment that is included with PLT Scheme". < 1438011159 657136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : what now <-- based on my view from another channel, someone possibly just klined ro* < 1438011182 607309 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And MrEd is the thing DrScheme is built on, right. < 1438011186 519990 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure you can confirm or deny that < 1438011199 755700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i was talking about the many names of plt scheme < 1438011225 608435 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://plt-scheme.org/software/ lists the components. < 1438011227 403416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I see several ro* who aren't klined. < 1438011232 992738 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:29:24 --- rodgort has quit [K-Lined] < 1438011234 937830 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you dismiss the Racket ads, anyway.) < 1438011256 362474 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is there a reason not to mention that name?) < 1438011275 637391 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I think oerjan is saying that everyone matching /^ro.*/ was klined. < 1438011287 972359 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also now you've done it < 1438011308 471326 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoa < 1438011325 932833 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's a botnet connecting with all ro* names at first < 1438011331 149887 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i didn't know oerjan was in any other channels < 1438011355 995674 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, let's focus on what's important. Such a lack of channel loyalty. < 1438011362 426056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm in ##nomic, where Roujo just got klined at the same time < 1438011375 51998 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen stuff like that, they connect twenty bots all with similar names, they start to spam, people ban them with a pattern and rejoice thinking they won, bot owner modifies pattern and connects twenty new bots, repeat < 1438011376 433742 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-urfvdsnwrhicltkn PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see an ro* in a channel who isnt klined < 1438011388 978970 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely ro* people who weren't k-lined < 1438011393 576058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my nomic loyalty is far older than my esolang loyalty, so there. although it's somewhat lapsed. < 1438011394 92688 :x1365C!~x10A94@euro214.vpnbook.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438011439 461419 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree, I see ro* nicks connected < 1438011444 514054 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not all of them are k-lined < 1438011447 815626 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that would be stupid) < 1438011451 391165 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-urfvdsnwrhicltkn PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one i see is not logged in either < 1438011463 130243 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-urfvdsnwrhicltkn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er authenticated < 1438011590 392367 :rodgort!~rodgort@105.ip-167-114-152.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438011614 746449 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-urfvdsnwrhicltkn PRIVMSG #esoteric :He lives! < 1438011626 365905 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me note that there's at least one freenode staffer logged in right now whose nick matches ro* < 1438011636 442067 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1438011682 404287 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'all people cannot convince me with your stupid evidence < 1438011721 105709 :roejan!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1438011729 441026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1438011731 369398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coincidence? < 1438011744 232889 :roejan!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1438011764 144642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i can't tell which overlord is evil < 1438011782 953633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i may have to do a ban_jos if this escalates < 1438011785 197340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: roejan has a suspiciously similar hostname to b_jonas < 1438011795 599564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: all ahead of you < 1438011797 164923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I noticed. < 1438011808 663039 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan's pun was better, though. < 1438011816 569756 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's not fair, I had to type my sentence < 1438011824 769770 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I wasn't making a pun < 1438011832 226099 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and oerjan is one of the few people who's allowed to make /good/ puns < 1438011836 348285 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally they're supposed to be bad < 1438011843 289158 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1438011851 348945 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan's pun didn't need to be very good to be better than no pun at all. < 1438011869 845162 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you'll rue the month you decided to impersonate oerjan < 1438011874 350213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the month is january) < 1438011885 329730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's an example of a worse pun) < 1438011924 942005 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if you get a reputation for everything you say being a pun < 1438011932 508610 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eventually you can just say a non sequitur < 1438011937 644019 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and everyone assumes it's a pun but it's so subtle they can't spot it < 1438011953 20946 :roejan!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sorry, "roen" was already in use, I didn't have much cohice < 1438011969 456919 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oerjan's puns may be good, but are they fun? < 1438011982 552506 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://www.xkcd.com/559/ < 1438011998 762737 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's the first pun in rot-13 I've seen < 1438012076 472267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : normally they're supposed to be bad <-- wait, what, this changes everything! < 1438012094 656960 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1438012137 521177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i say enough non sequiturs ais523 will sure quit < 1438012160 449000 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that isn't a non sequitur though < 1438012164 250024 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I'm planning to quit soon anyway < 1438012169 975113 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to go home < 1438012177 150740 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoa whoa whoa < 1438012247 820911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you are so easily overwhelmed < 1438012257 82390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i wouldn't say i'm overwhelmed < 1438012259 799743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally Roujo returned < 1438012260 224473 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just whelmed < 1438012267 148928 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=378429 < 1438012309 220592 :x1365C!~x10A94@euro214.vpnbook.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438012339 916560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rot13 rue # i don't think i'm getting this < 1438012340 558797 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehr < 1438012344 746931 :x10A94!~x10A94@euro214.vpnbook.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438012364 141254 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: now i can't tell whether that's a hidden pun < 1438012369 524731 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mission accomplished < 1438012405 850146 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if it is in fact us trolling you rather than vice versa, you might be looking at the wrong line < 1438012446 186550 :roejan!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1438012462 355744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...ah. < 1438012489 787222 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 good, good < 1438012490 431471 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbbq, tbbq < 1438012491 488246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm relieved, i thought shachaf actually meant that literally. < 1438012546 747374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or to quote the ancients, furrfu < 1438012575 717935 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1438012581 509424 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know nfurrfu? < 1438012605 359780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1438012624 211327 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1438012639 129559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: it's rot13 < 1438012647 992535 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :from old usenet < 1438012679 306179 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it linked with 'fnord'? < 1438012692 39350 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord isn't rot13 < 1438012710 620290 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-kjeciaghueulncat QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1438012714 170051 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but it shows up in certain places. sheesh. < 1438012722 11348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so was mine hth < 1438012729 326563 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notices scary concentrations of belgians < 1438012761 428165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well but "asheesh" didn't ring any bell... < 1438012775 383024 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hallo|bonjour|guten tag), GoToTell! < 1438012780 345890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's a p. common name < 1438012792 183426 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashish -- apparently this variant is mentioned in India's national anthem < 1438012794 447317 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hallo, mauris. Ook belg? < 1438012804 33605 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that page says "it's" instead of "its" < 1438012813 553881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm trying not to tell you about those things anymore < 1438012814 381137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1438012833 427503 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. it's good looking at people's IRC hostnames and deducing that they live a 2 hour drive away, tops < 1438012833 876399 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ohpgklnixaamfvot JOIN :#esoteric < 1438012836 68264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ic, it's not common where i've been previously acquainted < 1438012854 496940 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: how long does it take to drive to the UK from where you are? < 1438012854 602909 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how common it is. < 1438012861 178934 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually confused trying to work it out < 1438012871 61344 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :partly because I suck at north European geography < 1438012878 826895 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and partly because I'm not quite sure how to count the ferry/tunnel < 1438013025 32761 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :shorter than i thought: https://goo.gl/maps/khNJf < 1438013041 979562 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Did you publish your thesis? < 1438013063 494320 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I actually sent the finished manuscript to the printers today < 1438013075 760542 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'll have the printed versions finished on Friday < 1438013103 413357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll submit the electronic versions then; I don't know when they'll be printed < 1438013105 548475 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, online < 1438013108 6199 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ohpgklnixaamfvot QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438013125 749929 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They'll print them, scan them, and put the scans online. < 1438013136 812013 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: nah, they were sensible and asked me for a PDF < 1438013145 282508 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, cool stuff, what's the thesis about? < 1438013151 717902 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have one with hyperlinks and clickable internal cross-references and accessibility tagging and the like < 1438013155 635785 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: finite-state type systems < 1438013167 186751 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-marinxhvqbgwjbgm JOIN :#esoteric < 1438013188 756360 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't have one like that, because our thesis series template didn't want to play nice with hyperref. But maybe I can fix that later. < 1438013193 224793 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. languages in which programs provably use only finite memory < 1438013209 524726 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I made my own thesis series template; our regulations just say "such and such text X/Y distance from the margins" < 1438013234 197271 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :took me a while of messing around with minipages to get that right < 1438013246 956539 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have a fully-fledged thing with lots of crufty stuff. < 1438013273 412286 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure it's not mandatory, but it seemed like the sensible choice. < 1438013274 620818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much our entire process assumes you're using Word, without actively stating it anywhere < 1438013280 126613 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and being open for other editors in theory < 1438013290 906811 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I do use a different editor (LyX, in my case), it gets a little confusing < 1438013321 137885 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are only four begin/end minipage pairs in the .cls file. < 1438013397 907476 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this is a major bug: https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr/issues/1296 < 1438013404 677874 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :broken TCO in .NET 4.6 < 1438013413 86856 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning that parameter values can change silently, and only in release builds < 1438013427 811285 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I understand the theory of doing all debugging without optimization, then using optimization only for a release build < 1438013453 309742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because bugs that are only exposed by optimization then won't be caught by your tests < 1438013472 554160 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does sound, not ideal < 1438013586 515430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: 3.5 hours is not all that far < 1438013621 277736 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have thought debugging would be done last, and optimization only saved for after all other non-debugging changes. < 1438013647 49044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually like to do test builds at high optimization levels if I can < 1438013664 782792 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you get better warnings, and UB is more likely to break in a visible way < 1438013705 241765 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have thought it'd be obvious that the build you test (at least for some largeish fraction of testing) is the build you'll be shipping. < 1438013741 421862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many people test at -O0 and ship at -O2 or -O3 < 1438013749 319965 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's debugging, there's testing, and then there's end-user testing. < 1438013757 78692 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in NH4 I test at -Og on the Linux side, and I test at release settings on the Windows side < 1438013764 417284 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. I just meant that if you're going to do optimization later, it'd make sense to still have debugging later. < 1438013764 960485 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose people might confuse those things. < 1438013772 512971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my release settings include -g, to increase the chance I get useful bug reports) < 1438013790 243194 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't think every software development team does everything in the same kind sof stages. < 1438013860 864105 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, what does Uwe Boll have to do with this and how can code make him visibly break? < 1438013964 840493 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah I just have no idea what I'm talking about then. < 1438014012 740721 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And alaos ocnfusing manual and automatic optimization. < 1438014041 900601 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1438014064 761741 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose UB could summon Uwe Boll, but only if you're a really bad person. < 1438014071 314489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438014161 789545 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Client Quit < 1438014174 339812 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438014199 110311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Also, what does Uwe Boll have to do with this and how can code make him visibly break? <-- i'm sorry i don't get the pun twh < 1438014204 612291 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1438014220 644689 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wans't sure what UB stood for. < 1438014236 486845 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, UB = undefined behaviour < 1438014247 156788 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pretty commonly seen phrase among C programmers, also in #esoteric < 1438014290 890662 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many other languages use the term (or an equivalent term)? < 1438014342 781758 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the languages which have the concept use it, I think < 1438014350 208420 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but many languages intentionally avoid the concept < 1438014357 936794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Undefined_behavior < 1438014372 917894 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :UB could also be blue-black. < 1438014399 405959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr there are some people who wouldn't mind Uwe Boll visibly breaking < 1438014454 980456 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I'm surprised that Uwe Boll comes up in conversation sufficiently often to be worth abbreviating < 1438014458 333961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid evening sun < 1438014503 20285 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Do you know if there are statistics about color choices in limited M:tG games? < 1438014521 772550 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular the variance of different color combinations in drafts, and that sort of thing. < 1438014523 544745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm people with only two words in their name probably are less likely to get an abbreviation. < 1438014529 167435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe data to measure these things from? < 1438014536 659748 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, UB is special in some sense because once UB ever appears (even in your future, not just present, I think), you can no longer rely on anything working ever again. The same could be said about undefined behaviour, too. < 1438014561 610612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I know that the playtesters do them internally < 1438014568 310160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, color balance in drafts is not normally a useful measure < 1438014578 758119 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's exactly balanced because every card has to be picked by someone < 1438014606 887228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could check color balance of decks that are actually played, but even then draft's self-correcting because worse colours tend to be more open < 1438014765 367911 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438014767 321850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn uwe boll/Uwe Boll is the undefined behavior of cinematography. < 1438014770 600771 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «uwe boll» < 1438014864 820598 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'd like a large data set of real mtg limited games to look at, but I doubt a good one is easily obtainable. < 1438014907 937413 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: apparently Wizards have asked people with access to that sort of data (like StarCityGames) to not make it public, in order to slow down the rate at which formats are broken < 1438014975 426398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The situation with sealed is pretty different from draft, and would be interesting to know too. < 1438015015 660162 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: this is actually why most Wizards internal playtests are sealed < 1438015028 779420 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if anyone collects that data, though; most large sealed tournaments are casual < 1438015213 383703 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm sure mtgo collects it. < 1438015250 15562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mtgo's incompetent enough that maybe it doesn't < 1438015289 842280 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :All that data would be very helpful to them in designing new sets, though, I imagine. < 1438015353 704951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1438015484 724343 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: bear in mind that this is the game that failed during its most important tournament of the year, and lost all its data about the state of the tournament at that point in the process < 1438015533 588570 :white_bear!~white_bea@106-185-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1438015814 221913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1438016008 956095 :atrapa!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1438016096 622405 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1438016304 923584 :atrapa!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado NICK :atrapado < 1438016469 518541 :x10A94!~x10A94@euro214.vpnbook.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438016698 963384 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438016866 883975 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-urfvdsnwrhicltkn PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ✊👊 < 1438016868 79721 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+270A RAISED FIST \ UTF-8: e2 9c 8a UTF-16BE: 270a Decimal: ✊ \ ✊ \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F44A FISTED HAND SIGN \ UTF-8: f0 9f 91 8a UTF-16BE: d83ddc4a Decimal: 👊 \ 👊 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1438016888 138815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1438016891 47992 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar/The command you're looking for is probably either tar -xavkf or tar -cavf < 1438016897 937429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not true. < 1438016944 468005 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/tar < 1438016946 13804 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1438017022 144427 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-urfvdsnwrhicltkn PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didnt know wisdoms had to be true < 1438017078 229550 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1438017086 537305 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't. < 1438017248 895890 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1438017249 807029 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack/ you play too much nethack when: you look down both sides of the corridor, start to sweat and then realize you're looking at your email address < 1438017546 364397 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The command is "tar c", "tar t", or "tar x", although there are other options too < 1438017666 148779 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1438017708 161557 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Those three are the only options I have used though) < 1438017806 335060 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some useful ones are: f = filename of tarball; v = print files as extracted or compressed, or print more than filenames for listing; z = pack to gzip; j = pack to bzip2; J = pack to xz; plus some more complicated ones for when you want to control list of files, I think they're -I listfile --null --no-recurse < 1438017812 118082 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually tar xf < 1438017900 573866 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :these days I try to copy files with rsync -tve "sudo -u" someuser:source dest instead of sudo -u someuser tar c source | tar xvC dest < 1438017927 575990 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, another important switch I use is: C = filenames except for name of tarball is relative to this directory < 1438017953 657202 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use pipes and do not need most of the commands it provides. < 1438017989 849180 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I want the files inside of the archive in a different directory I can just switch to that directory. < 1438018018 406114 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sure, and you can (cd foo && make) instead of make -C foo < 1438018023 553320 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's still convenient enough that I use it a lot < 1438018070 242349 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, if foo is a directory you can't even execute to, compare (sudo -u someuser tar cC foo .) to (sudo -u someuser sh -c 'cd foo && tar c .') < 1438018080 887811 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gets cumbersome < 1438018092 76399 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :switch is there for a good reason < 1438018126 853726 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically I think cd should be a convenience thing, and you can use absolute paths if you want most of the time. this doesn't work with tar: < 1438018135 798697 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :you play too much nethack when: that nethack joke becomes profoundly unfunny for you :( < 1438018177 593101 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it doesn't (usually) rewrite filenames between the file system and the tarball, so if you want a file to be named ./bar in the tarball, you have to cd to its directory or else use the -C option (which does that) < 1438018191 479265 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some programs do not need any command-line arguments at all; AmigaMML currently ignores any it may be given. < 1438018262 514482 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: If a program doesn't need command-line arguments at all, I prefer that it gives an error if it gets any. < 1438018278 569432 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, that might be better, but the current version does not. < 1438018279 767956 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: except for true and false and : which shouldn't do that < 1438018290 479209 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: there's the contentious question on what true --help should do < 1438018308 918431 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I've done a lot of "program input" instead of "cat input | program" where I wish the program had failed. < 1438018324 304928 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: As far as I am concerned, it should do nothing < 1438018325 698618 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also what false --help < 1438018327 520338 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438018328 425892 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Maybe < 1438018340 888755 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: And false --help should fail. < 1438018384 320538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care about true --help and false --help < 1438018390 207797 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I slightly care about echo --help < 1438018404 913127 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an underlying problem that people aren't even sure what foo --help should do in general: should it exit with success or failure status, and should it print help to stdout or stderr (or depending on isatty results) < 1438018406 976726 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash is a bit of a hack, huh < 1438018430 937069 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1438018447 280259 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For help you can just use a man page < 1438018457 171518 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the end, implementations agree in that true --help should exit success, and false --help should exit failure, but they differ in what they print < 1438018488 477205 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Well, yes that is one way too I suppose < 1438018502 438338 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: man page? ok, how about true --version < 1438018512 832283 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does that give no useful information because who cares about the version of true? < 1438018527 845650 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: That program doesn't need a version number < 1438018568 339509 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: note that --version customarily prints the license information for programs where just invoking it without argument doesn't, < 1438018584 119064 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some licenses may require that the binary should be able to give a notice about license informatoin < 1438018593 834777 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that you know that it uses code by the reagents of whatever < 1438018620 214751 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's still a case for saying that screw it, true and false can ignore it as long as the other programs in coreutils or other builtins in bash do tell you that info < 1438018634 640430 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can just make /bin/true and /bin/false public domain < 1438018685 48464 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo is different because it already must handle at least _some_ switches < 1438018698 470369 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1438018712 977740 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose yes that it can be useful for AmigaMML to display error in case any unrecognized switches are given, since even though there are no recognized one now, in future it is possible that later version might add switches to output debugging information for use with a IDE, or whatever < 1438018716 742658 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus I think echo genuinely has to be different between the shell version and the /bin/echo or something? I don't follow, it's complicated < 1438018741 337849 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it could display a non-fatal warning < 1438018790 993645 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could be a possible too I suppose < 1438018876 927306 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently though what it does is, it reads MML code from stdin, writes out a MOD or XM to stdout, and displays the number of rows emitted per channel on stderr. In case of error it will display an error message to stderr, write nothing to stdout, and a nonzero exit code. < 1438019014 132586 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To create a IDE for AmigaMML, I am not exactly sure which options would be useful to add < 1438019637 330405 :`^_^!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438019784 864093 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438020670 2642 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438020908 326231 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1438020973 247720 :`^_^v!~nycs@38.125.127.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438021059 329166 :`^_^!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1438021235 481373 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1438021243 428900 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1438022514 479234 :`^_^v!~nycs@38.125.127.189 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1438022576 262025 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438023212 510308 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438023770 418332 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438023967 88844 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1438024221 88649 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438024268 274157 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-76-94.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/LNzA9au.png < 1438024319 515777 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hacking for dummies < 1438024359 839836 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-76-94.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is a leet haxx < 1438024361 904673 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sams book too! are those the ones that promise to teach you C++ exponentially faster over time, and we're down to 10 minutes < 1438024382 181273 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.amazon.com/Sams-Teach-Yourself-Minutes-Edition/dp/0672324253 mmm < 1438024472 946714 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-76-94.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would I want to learn C++ in any amount of time, though < 1438024525 645844 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438024562 321356 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1438025188 734170 :henriqueleng!~henrique@187-5-246-165.paebv701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br JOIN :#esoteric < 1438026705 599700 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hacking for dummies < 1438026706 524948 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1438026915 96489 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07LOLCODE14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43600&oldid=42122 5* 0370.185.102.142 5* (-101) 10/* Keywords */ < 1438027111 914181 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Doorspace14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43601&oldid=40970 5* 03174.236.84.154 5* (-1) 10/* Introduction */ < 1438027432 29760 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438027810 17683 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- In tests, 0x09 out of 0x0A l33t h4x0rz prefer it :) < 1438028528 840870 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today’s result: In Idris, every Monad is also a monadic value! < 1438028888 36134 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh got < 1438028889 573836 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*god < 1438029034 798066 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( do x <- List; y <- Stream; return $ Either x y < 1438029034 908221 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\13i => 12Either (12List 13i) (12Stream 13i) : 12Type -> 12Type < 1438029072 825525 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1438029582 644101 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438029587 666796 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: I hate you < 1438030168 334283 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie what does finnish "liemme" mean? < 1438030168 560865 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1438030210 218606 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: It's kind of hard. I think it might be a first-person plural potential case of the verb "be". < 1438030231 173300 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: something like "we probably are" < 1438030245 75160 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, or "we might be". < 1438030291 507319 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha. google translate was being useless about it for some reason, but that makes sense! < 1438030302 686953 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "be" verb has a rather nonstandard potential form. < 1438030306 869253 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does anyone handle finnish though. < 1438030331 467 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "lienemme" would also be a valid way to say it, and in fact that's what's the first-person plural potential in the table at https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/olla#Conjugation < 1438030355 818759 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But there's a French wiktionary page that uses "liemme" for the same thing.) < 1438030410 77483 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The potential mood for verbs is overall pretty rarely used. < 1438030435 213040 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you're being deliberately fancy, or just naturally so. < 1438030487 594678 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, is it like an archaic/poetic thing? this is from värttinä lyrics, so that'd make sense < 1438030510 663189 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, a little bit. It's not *that* archaic, you can still see it in a newspaper and it doesn't necessarily feel weird. < 1438030649 943959 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you'd certainly see it written more often than spoken. < 1438030666 68606 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, I guess you wouldn't normally *see* it spoken ever, but... < 1438030743 641737 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In related news, the bus this morning had a sign that said approximately: "Do not speak to or obstruct the driver's vision while --", and I couldn't help wondering how you'd speak to the driver's vision. < 1438031000 97007 :Hoolootwo!~Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps the driver has synesthesia < 1438031259 177215 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Oh dear. Why? < 1438031342 750280 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: you've made me see things I can't unsee < 1438031350 82793 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :.ω. < 1438031435 849647 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-14-100.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1438031459 471596 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( do x <- List; y <- Either x; return (x, y) < 1438031459 577630 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\13i => 04(12List 13i04, 12Either (12List 13i) 13i04) : 12Type -> 12(12Type12, 12Type12) < 1438031468 667742 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-14-100.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1438031468 722085 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1438031496 173840 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( do x <- List; y <- Either x; return $ the Type (x, y) < 1438031496 281991 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\13i => 12(12List 13i12, 12Either (12List 13i) 13i12) : 12Type -> 12Type < 1438031553 338113 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (do x <- (+1); y <- (+2); return (x*y)) [0..] < 1438031554 820168 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [2,6,12,20,30,42,56,72,90,110,132,156,182,210,240,272,306,342,380,420,462,50... < 1438031733 860999 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: is the reader monad really so much worse on the type level than on the value level? < 1438031934 360964 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1438032204 574373 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1438032204 666743 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Client Quit < 1438032370 367208 :Alcest!~alcest@93.186.169.30 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1438032464 117004 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1438032581 365108 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1438032664 571703 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Tangle bracket language14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43602&oldid=43565 5* 03Rottytooth 5* (+235) 10added question < 1438032815 328194 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh will you look at that, there was an actual GG comic last Friday... < 1438032905 438268 :Alcest!~alcest@93.186.169.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438033596 494540 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438033859 390506 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438033916 324713 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1438034072 625732 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1438034165 450017 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1438034165 739826 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 272130Z 16013KT 15SM BKN040CB BKN240 27/21 A2991 RMK CB5CI2 WSHFT 2115 CB E SLP126 DENSITY ALT 1500FT < 1438034183 888751 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, BKN040CB! :D < 1438034245 831636 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rain rain rain, it shall raaaaain ♪ < 1438034277 908503 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LOWI < 1438034278 121504 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 272150Z AUTO VRB02KT 9999 FEW090 16/13 Q1012 < 1438034341 671003 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :great summer weather. (max. 25 today, somewhat rainy) < 1438034416 2680 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello. is it generally humid in Austria? < 1438034446 331691 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1438034458 75422 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about Austria in general. Innsbruck is actually fairly dry overall. I welcome the rain. < 1438034513 91860 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438034575 161931 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't like heat very much.) < 1438034591 275146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1438034619 246538 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :same about not supporting heat. < 1438034689 761753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we only support 0 K, for best efficiency < 1438034712 407607 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1438034761 305570 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438034805 604591 :oren!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242511728.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1438034850 520494 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, 904mm rain/year ... actually that's more than I thought. < 1438034855 177054 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Today’s result: In Idris, every Monad is also a monadic value! < 1438034889 155270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: EXCELLENT < 1438034896 232327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in which monad?) < 1438034901 195315 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( do x <- List; y <- Either x; return $ the Type (x, y) < 1438034901 408977 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\13i => 12(12List 13i12, 12Either (12List 13i) 13i12) : 12Type -> 12Type < 1438034909 622114 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1438034955 909217 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unwrapped reader monad, because they must have type (Type -> Type). < 1438034964 20681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1438034982 138884 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that even makes sense < 1438035034 289819 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, coppro now hates me for showing this. < 1438035047 516700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( do x <- List; y <- Either x; return $ Left [] < 1438035047 661156 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):No such variable elem < 1438035052 966541 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1438035057 728316 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1438035070 137107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1438035089 152628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( do x <- List; y <- Either x; return $ the y (Left []) < 1438035089 368133 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:43:When checking argument 13value to function 09Prelude.Basics.the: < 1438035089 423926 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : Type mismatch between < 1438035089 423964 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12Either (12List elem) 13b (Type of 04Left 04[]) < 1438035089 423986 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : and < 1438035089 424005 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : 13y (Expected type) < 1438035118 635481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1438035122 759637 :odor!~o@209.159.220.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438035125 364139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( do x <- List; y <- Either x; return $ the (y x) (Left []) < 1438035125 470241 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't disambiguate since no alternative is valid: < 1438035125 578106 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : 09Effects.>>=, 09BotPrelude.LiftEq.>>=, 09Prelude.Monad.>>= < 1438035132 348945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting closer < 1438035157 217521 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :y is a lambda arg of type Type there. < 1438035162 572948 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris is scary < 1438035164 356068 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1438035182 859762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait why didn't the y (Left []) work then < 1438035201 85073 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can’t tell what it might be. It’s just a lambda arg that gets something passed in later. < 1438035209 648808 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not the (y (Left [])) ? < 1438035224 168458 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is likely wrong < 1438035227 374113 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: No. < 1438035228 623047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: um no? the takes two arguments < 1438035308 228562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t do x <- List; y <- Either x; return $ Left [] < 1438035308 338743 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):No such variable elem < 1438035361 174850 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don’t know what that one is on about, but apparently it’s talking about an implicit argument that gets quantified wrong somewhere. < 1438035401 201885 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t do x <- List; y <- Either x; return $ Left {b=Type} [] < 1438035401 344406 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):No such variable elem < 1438035419 967239 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh durp. < 1438035437 660857 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t do x <- List; y <- Either x; return $ Left {b=Type} (the (List Int) []) < 1438035437 873535 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :do 12List < 1438035437 979307 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12Either x < 1438035438 33595 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : 09return (04Left (09the (12List 12Int) 04[])) : 12Type -> 12Either (12List 12Int) 12Type < 1438035475 513148 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( do x <- List; y <- Either x; return $ Left {b=Type} (the (List Int) []) < 1438035475 621057 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :\13i => 04Left 04[] : 12Type -> 12Either (12List 12Int) 12Type < 1438035536 407728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( (do x <- List; y <- Either x; return $ the y (Left [])) Bool < 1438035536 462052 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:57:Can't disambiguate since no alternative is valid: < 1438035536 516419 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : 09Effects.>>=, 09BotPrelude.LiftEq.>>=, 09Prelude.Monad.>>= < 1438035581 716475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ambles back to haskell < 1438035587 719406 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I told you there’s nothing known about y because it’s just a lambda arg. < 1438035628 816757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i thought maybe giving it the argument would solve that < 1438035649 795264 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it’s just not well-typed in the first place. < 1438035692 157105 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438035709 639047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Left < 1438035710 816057 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> Either a b < 1438035711 740936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1438035716 332968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t Left < 1438035716 441761 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :04Left : 13a -> 12Either 13a 13b < 1438035746 794555 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, that is exactly the same type < 1438035749 494397 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just more colourful < 1438035754 634682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1438035777 83437 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t \y => return $ the y (Left []) < 1438035778 319371 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input ‘:’ < 1438035782 687248 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t \y => return $ the y (Left []) < 1438035782 793015 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't disambiguate name: 09Effects.return, 09Prelude.Monad.return < 1438035783 470810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nevertheless, it answered my question after a little consideration < 1438035818 453045 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t \y => Monad.return {m = (\a => Type -> a)} $ the y (Left []) < 1438035837 476663 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1438035837 830840 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Client Quit < 1438035862 89483 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1438035962 998447 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( () < 1438036015 216398 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438036030 902198 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :No clue what that fail was about. < 1438036040 21129 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1438036059 583654 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :As though it lost the network but neither side noticed. < 1438036121 416176 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t \y => Monad.return {m = (\a => Type -> a)} $ the y (Left []) < 1438036121 470433 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:53:When checking argument 13value to function 09Prelude.Basics.the: < 1438036121 524897 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : Type mismatch between < 1438036121 524943 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12Either (12List elem) 13b (Type of 04Left 04[]) < 1438036121 524964 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : and < 1438036121 524982 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : 13y (Expected type) < 1438036331 805134 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438036420 831984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( () < 1438036420 922735 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :04() : 12() < 1438037000 391490 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438037325 362598 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1438037325 826436 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 272200Z 17009KT 15SM BKN040TCU BKN240 27/20 A2990 RMK TCU6CI1 SLP125 DENSITY ALT 1500FT < 1438037349 242843 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rubs his hands together and cackles evily < 1438037357 985325 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1438037376 209355 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL < 1438037376 882522 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 272220Z 24014KT 9999 SCT022 SCT024 15/11 Q1004 < 1438037395 654014 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is starting to feel like a Finnish summer. < 1438037551 233027 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EG is not Finland. did you illegally bring weather across states lines? < 1438037889 634357 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: TOWERING CHICKEN < 1438037911 18648 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1438038774 623590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1438038775 146590 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 272250Z 22005KT 190V250 9999 FEW030 09/07 Q1001 RMK WIND 670FT 24009KT < 1438038802 517058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :noily < 1438039806 375000 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1438040899 287301 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1438040955 326261 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1438040986 100666 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1438042254 299083 :odor!~o@209.159.220.174 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1438042357 87398 :odor!~o@209.159.220.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438042635 88082 :odor!~o@209.159.220.174 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438043881 640899 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438044714 477126 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438044788 804034 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438044832 109054 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me JOIN :#esoteric < 1438044984 538286 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1438045159 298081 :odor!~o@209.159.220.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438045184 288678 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438045272 611853 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438045307 434323 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you folk already seen google's intercal styleguide? < 1438045403 327665 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:e5d6:6944:3eaa:7b9d JOIN :#esoteric < 1438045442 377966 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438045652 444520 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438045761 358365 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been mentioned < 1438045912 534990 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1438045920 425049 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1438045979 298249 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438046029 187761 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438046060 298157 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438046238 274153 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438046238 381410 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1438046245 308693 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :GeekDude < 1438046262 301043 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438046324 301553 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:e5d6:6944:3eaa:7b9d QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438046369 589036 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438046394 722555 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438046396 455999 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438046419 822475 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438046422 682225 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438046430 99254 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry for the spam < 1438046435 545049 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just testing my IRC client < 1438046454 648720 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438046474 50259 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438046494 839461 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438046525 227642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better to test your IRC client outside of a channel full of people. < 1438046532 274333 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1438046533 442183 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1438046537 690209 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What channel should I use? < 1438046547 314466 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Test < 1438046553 264931 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT WORKS < 1438046562 386875 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it work for more than one word though? < 1438046573 887787 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Super < 1438046581 318500 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT DOES NOT < 1438046597 223474 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT CLOSE ENOUGH :P < 1438046604 365418 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should use any channel I'm not in. < 1438046613 913899 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make your own if you like. < 1438046689 956596 :hppavilion[1]_!~hppavilio@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438046700 600792 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1438046796 336105 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray < 1438046802 489279 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works for outbound messages < 1438046812 94765 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I just need to parse and prettyprint inbound ones < 1438046916 288158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: are you forgetting the : before the message in a PRIVMSG? < 1438046937 236248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that might make it ignore all but the first word < 1438047244 705088 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1438047488 127393 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I immediately guessed that #test is used as a channel for testing things, and was also right. < 1438047564 468442 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to make a browser extentsion that opens a channel window for every hashtag you view on twitter. < 1438047579 634673 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438047633 963147 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But hppavillion[1] had in fact started timing out before I even started talking. < 1438047690 582380 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438048326 595474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess he shall be forever doomed to speak in single-word messages, then. < 1438049355 833487 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1438049784 303240 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1438050088 298940 :odour!~o@209.159.220.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438050111 299329 :odor!~o@209.159.220.174 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1438050363 589817 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438051380 596297 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438052728 12100 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an old IRC client I wrote sitting around < 1438053324 405831 :henriqueleng!~henrique@187-5-246-165.paebv701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1438053360 156878 :henriqueleng!~henrique@177.4.225.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438053938 697028 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1438054012 917853 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-152-191.dhcp4.washington.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1438054259 845474 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438054304 914269 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like Toronto Hydro decided to turn my power back on < 1438054379 528116 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idiots decided "oh lots of money for Pan-Am Games that noone cares about, no money for basic infrastructure like redundant power systems" < 1438054549 198544 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-152-191.dhcp4.washington.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :logical < 1438054849 507081 :henriqueleng!~henrique@177.4.225.174 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1438055666 877760 :odour!~o@209.159.220.174 QUIT :Quit: *wafts* < 1438055708 114214 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1438056308 5250 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1438056637 436914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nyte < 1438057375 891245 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-69-91-152-191.dhcp4.washington.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438057957 225362 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438057974 674833 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438058140 821303 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-173-250-190-94.dhcp4.washington.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1438058866 401879 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Itanium is a 64-bit EPIC architecture. EPIC stands for Explicitly Parallel Instruction Computing, a design in which work is offloaded from the processor to the compiler. For example, the compiler decides which operations can be safely performed in parallel and which memory fetches can be productively speculated. This relieves the processor from having to make these decisions on the fly, thereby allowing it to focus on the real work of < 1438058866 523264 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :processing. < 1438058866 577487 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1438058885 624479 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why shouldn't the CPU just trust the compiler to make that decision, instead of whatever magic it does now? < 1438058909 563789 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And/or a more expressive assembly < 1438059240 574590 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438059272 961501 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438059535 510686 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :compilers already have too much work to do < 1438059689 305955 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of doing all this super smart memory caching, it would be better if they just added like 10 KB of registers for the compiler to work with. < 1438059848 224576 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that also fits into a compiler's current options < 1438060069 102906 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-173-250-190-94.dhcp4.washington.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438060111 66620 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-173-250-190-94.dhcp4.washington.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1438060227 229679 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@71-222-86-154.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438060250 89794 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea: each instruction is 32 bits with an optional 64 bit address as argument. 12 bits are the opcode/addressing mode, 10 bits select a register, 10 bits select another register. < 1438060303 742409 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have 1024 64-bit registers. < 1438060590 242437 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you have instructions to "page write" or "page read" 64 registers at a time to/from memory. < 1438060625 248156 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(these instructions can be pipelined with instructions that don't use that particular reigster page) < 1438060730 164068 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :screw it i'm tired < 1438061831 916019 :Wallacoloo!~colin@D-173-250-190-94.dhcp4.washington.edu QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1438064180 786587 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438064507 383992 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-marinxhvqbgwjbgm QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1438064941 371764 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-iufhlyudzqfhksot JOIN :#esoteric < 1438066943 194889 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-78-102-58-167.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1438067809 140801 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang talk:Rules14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43603 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+488) 10Created Page < 1438067880 622016 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438068153 655569 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esoteric data structure14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43604 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+300) 10Created Page < 1438068207 568491 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1438068290 201820 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Tangle bracket language14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43605&oldid=43602 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+201) 10Responded to question < 1438068367 396645 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Tangle bracket language14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43606&oldid=43605 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+93) 10Signed < 1438068412 551978 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're very enthousiastic about esolangs, hppavilion[1]. < 1438068453 486191 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll notice that the last 2 edits were actually to talk pages < 1438068465 94169 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that the second one was just correcting a mistake on the first :P < 1438068477 154254 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, I am < 1438068540 296303 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :which esolang was your first introduction to the subject? < 1438068548 88189 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1438068557 784075 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lolcode, actually < 1438068572 714540 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could never actually run it though :P < 1438068599 412592 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the few that has a wiki page to itselft. < 1438068614 790212 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :You tried making an interpreter for it? < 1438068641 404947 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1438068648 736191 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not great with parsers < 1438068661 105935 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only parser I've ever written was a Shunting-yard algorithm < 1438068689 316332 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is weird, because I'm an implementer :P < 1438068801 640225 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Implementing is a lot of fun. < 1438068817 295944 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Esoteric Operating System14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43607&oldid=43599 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+184) 10Signed < 1438068834 395725 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mostly implement my own languages < 1438068846 49870 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which aren't so much Esolangs as just Weirdlangs < 1438068891 133947 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you see as the difference between those teo? < 1438068995 812932 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRUE esolangs are made to be esoteric, and have more than just weird syntax < 1438069001 560674 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weirdlangs just look strange < 1438069020 15474 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lolcode isn't really a true esolang because it just uses strange keywords < 1438069026 656537 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't do anything different < 1438069050 7081 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aside from the lulziness, it's just a crappy programming language < 1438069053 790011 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making it a Weirdlang < 1438069077 396285 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My language is also a Weirdlang because it doesn't do anything new, and it's just a normal language with strange syntax < 1438069083 996579 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :print}Hello, World!}; < 1438069091 633387 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a hello wolrd (minus the import) < 1438069138 494431 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be an Esolang, you have to have something more than just strange syntax. You have to have confuddling semantics or novel structure < 1438069150 251854 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1438069157 133621 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like Malbolge or Befunge, respectively < 1438069166 200925 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, this is all just my opinion :P < 1438069199 972407 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, most just group them all under esolangs, but they are different. < 1438069237 70491 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1438069253 116524 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weirdlangs look weird, esolangs are truly, well, esoteric < 1438069302 824965 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the example you just wrote though, it's an interesting Q of how you would write nested brackets. < 1438069359 519044 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which example? < 1438069365 466249 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Tangle Bracket Language? < 1438069381 577912 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hello world is from that? < 1438069397 750590 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1438069411 468244 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hello world is from WalScript 1.0 < 1438069424 88689 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, OO-WalScript and generic WalScript < 1438069432 765279 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it WalScript Alpha? < 1438069434 701902 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget < 1438069481 310087 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yours? < 1438069498 231127 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1438069509 147869 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brackets are actually used as delimeters in walscript < 1438069522 143484 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A While Loop, for example, looks like this: < 1438069529 603325 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :while}cond}; < 1438069537 503012 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric : dostuff}; < 1438069540 181837 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :endwhile}; < 1438069550 137662 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indentation ignored, of course < 1438069585 178251 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's while & endwhile that determines the scope. < 1438069606 112243 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There isn't scope xD < 1438069621 14185 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think it's actually a Tangle-Bracket language itself, at least in my implementation < 1438069658 517419 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, while and endwhile deterermine what gets looped, not the brackets < 1438069714 794959 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mind is full of javascript, so I see brackets I think scope. < 1438069761 520528 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1438069768 458660 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true for most languages < 1438069782 67170 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But mine have to be at _least_ weirdlangs for me to make them < 1438069795 132486 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I create a "Weirdlang" page on the wiki? < 1438069867 862215 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Timesig14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43608 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+159) 10Created Page < 1438069947 636809 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd think it a good idea. < 1438069971 198817 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1438069997 867798 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's an article I remember reading on "Vocabulary-Oriented and Behavior-Oriented Esolangs" http://esoteric.codes/post/113253944074/vocabulary-oriented-and-behavior-oriented-esolangs < 1438070046 736365 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :might help with how to charecterize the difference. < 1438070177 816961 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What parts of languages are there? < 1438070193 30732 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's syntax, semantics, structure, anything else? < 1438070256 409573 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know enough to give a close answer to that. < 1438070263 850936 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:O14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43609 5* 03JayCampbell 5* (+98) 10kudos < 1438070282 256823 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :how data is stored. < 1438070323 388134 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-90-93.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wiki has a catergory page with stack, queues, cell... and so on. < 1438070418 940851 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Weirdlang14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43610 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+934) 10Created Page < 1438070464 803828 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data storage is still semantics, I believe < 1438070521 558671 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should make a language with no delimiters. < 1438070532 58070 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and make whitespaces illegal < 1438070570 74655 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :while(a>b&&c>0){a+=bc--} < 1438070671 667831 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't () and {} delimetres? < 1438070681 225556 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhat yes < 1438070725 179721 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could get rid of {} by stating how many statements in the block are < 1438070725 922145 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1438070732 50938 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :while(a>b&&c>0)2a+=bc-- < 1438070741 281805 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which tells the parser that the next two statements belong to a block < 1438070786 972349 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting < 1438071222 407981 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks for that website :) < 1438071393 768839 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The least appropriately named esolang ever: BodyFuck < 1438071401 362550 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go removes the () from constructions like those, because the cond is always one expression. < 1438071418 887104 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still keeps the braces, though. < 1438071648 645665 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kewlzez < 1438072277 384490 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-202-31.w92-151.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1438072414 468018 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CONVERSATION NOT HAPPENNING < 1438072418 732553 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESOHULK MAD < 1438072592 859287 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah () is actually redundant < 1438072601 523246 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :just parse one expression and you're fine :) < 1438073021 261983 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall that in Go the braces are actually part of the syntax of the control structure, unlike in C, where the body can be any single statement, and the braces are part of the compound statement syntax. < 1438073052 598242 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438073229 319959 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Related note: for consistency, C's function bodies should really do the same. int add1(int x) return x + 1; should be just fine. < 1438073588 177428 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think c++ allows the function body to be a try block, but not other statements < 1438074058 791214 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The old-style function definitions aren't perhaps all that friendly to the single-statement style. < 1438074185 548680 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Adrianton3 5* 10New user account < 1438074257 537777 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other day I wrote a contrived example of a switch with a non-compound-statement body. < 1438074260 558512 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :for (int i = 0, j = 0; i < 2; i++, j = 0) switch (i) do case 0: { putchar('a'); case 1: putchar('b'); } while (j++ < i); < 1438074271 7331 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Befunge14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43611&oldid=42953 5* 03Adrianton3 5* (+7) 10/* Updated a link in the external resources */ < 1438074298 420465 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of like the "switch (i) do case 0:" part, it looks like code you'd expect from fungot. < 1438074298 665658 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: they don't want people to search it for me. i should wake < 1438075926 563898 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438076174 588418 :x1365C!x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438076193 459056 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:FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It reminds me of Duff's device < 1438083428 912838 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, quite. < 1438083548 204036 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1438083596 813546 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In general, you can replace if (x == 42) foo(); for an integral x by switch (x) case 42: foo(); < 1438083723 314376 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, and you can replace while(x)stmt with for(;x;)stmt and it's not even any longer, so the while keyword is quite redundant < 1438083750 878895 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1438083783 141310 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: however, if statements are useful when the body contains a case label for an outer switch < 1438083801 909385 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in those cases you can't replace them with a switch so easily, though you can still replace them with a switch-goto in C < 1438083883 313682 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, replace if(cond)stmt with {switch(cond)case 0:goto skip;stmt skip:;} < 1438083925 517492 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that gets a bit ugly < 1438083961 220536 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, more importantly, you can't replace an if with just a plain switch-case if the body contains "break" statements < 1438083977 87091 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case too you can use switch-goto < 1438084162 162127 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I agree that if statements where the body contains a case label for an enclosing switch are good to have. < 1438084185 235407 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of like conditional fallthrough. < 1438084539 443858 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was sort of thinking on a small language with syntax somewhat similar to C (pre-C99), but that has if() and for(;;) but doesn't have while or switch, and make it such that it can be parsed without knowing the keywords, so you can substitute whatever translated keywords you want (subject to tokenizing rules) and it will mean the same < 1438084604 508611 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can only have three actually different basic types though, eg. int, unsigned char, unsigned long int < 1438084621 636537 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1438084635 354478 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438084635 408824 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1438084635 408878 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1438084650 412811 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but three basic types should be enough. you can still declare pointers as unsigned char * because the non-letter punctuation is fixed < 1438084661 457931 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :only the alnum keywords are replacable < 1438084961 327339 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1438085407 163266 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could replace if with for as well < 1438085428 27762 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for(;x;){/*do*/break;} < 1438085464 297454 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. probably not so practical due to the else < 1438085482 908510 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hm. < 1438085486 936696 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :remove for and while < 1438085490 326913 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just use if&goto < 1438085508 300600 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-099-249.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1438085571 962216 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:Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that was a long lunch < 1438089774 467776 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438090495 48071 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1438090596 261732 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1438090662 597714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Did it start around http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2012-02-18#133928Taneb ? < 1438090683 734719 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, yes < 1438090731 479111 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a very long lunch < 1438090752 691326 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fwiw, "Late Post 'Not That Late'" is still my favourite ever headline) < 1438091629 647171 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: You don't need if, ?: will do < 1438091647 4455 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: And maybe you could have for loops where the syntax is just (;;) < 1438092433 338964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1438092792 494380 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Tangle bracket language14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43612&oldid=43606 5* 03Rottytooth 5* (+281) 10responded to comment < 1438092879 93962 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Having only ?: and for (;;) for control constructs is really pretty awkward, because there's no way to do a conditional break (or goto) with only ?:. < 1438092909 551592 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, you *could* get things done, but it wouldn't be very pleasant. < 1438092936 90215 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That's true < 1438092959 424766 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could always change semantics a bit though < 1438092974 759558 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hmkvrzxffgowpewn JOIN :#esoteric < 1438093170 714372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course GCC would let you write for (;;) { ...; x ? ({ break; }) : 0; ... } or even void *cont = &&cont, *done = &&done; cont: for (;;) { ...; goto *(x ? done : cont); } done:; < 1438093239 959654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what pascal did < 1438093255 974716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only one exit point per structure < 1438093276 233187 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, could you use recursion as a sneaky extra control structure? < 1438093301 112205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess if then else excepted < 1438093437 383804 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Yes. You might have stack-related problems, though. < 1438093660 948763 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :True... < 1438093781 42536 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also disallow functions . < 1438093785 501062 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use computed jumps, yes. < 1438093788 750969 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :goto and for < 1438093791 440898 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing else allowed :) < 1438093848 618487 :rottytooth!26609942@gateway/web/freenode/ip.38.96.153.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438093978 976087 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The for sounds a bit superfluous at that point. < 1438094114 807213 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does C have computed gotos? < 1438094143 367657 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, hu < 1438094144 824212 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: you can't quite change semantics. The point is that it sohuld be like OC, in that it's self-hosting and the compiler is written in sort of the intersection of the language and C, so you can boostrap it with a C compiler then compile it with itself. < 1438094145 865448 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :but GCC does. < 1438094164 610639 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can add extensions, sure, but they complicate writing the compiler. < 1438094168 159569 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think i can call a language 'c-like' if this is a syntax error? x += - y < 1438094202 532341 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I didn't say C-like language. I said language with C-like synatax. < 1438094214 209076 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can still say the language has C-like syntax when x += - y is an error < 1438094226 951390 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oki thanks < 1438094314 656903 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait my parser is choking on x += -3 < 1438094323 144919 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a problem isn't it? < 1438094449 458184 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, depends on what the specs are < 1438094459 545221 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are no specs yet < 1438094482 568130 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you trying to parse? < 1438094579 313559 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to write a language that's not esoteric so it's kind of off topic here < 1438095162 831681 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438095193 440196 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1438095210 244382 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think humanity lacks a special kind of martial arts. < 1438095213 672256 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fighting in space < 1438095216 996068 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :with zero gravity. < 1438095226 869518 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't know how to fight in zero gravity! < 1438095233 120827 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_C-family_programming_languages v g < 1438095247 813456 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, we don't know how to do a lot of things in zero gravity < 1438095261 585956 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but fighting seems to be socially important. < 1438095302 493740 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, it'll be a long time before zero gravity sees belligerent antagonists in close proximity < 1438095314 426136 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you move in space without holding on to something? < 1438095317 627004 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially without a mediating force < 1438095321 652580 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like with a swimming movement? < 1438095329 522534 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so??? < 1438095332 376708 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there is air < 1438095353 247911 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but otherwise not? < 1438095367 251640 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall hearing about that, plus that it's very inefficient. < 1438095377 784145 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: You could spit to the other direction. < 1438095392 415128 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or throw articles of clothing. < 1438095398 239595 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparentely viscosity of air isn't that good for moving < 1438095423 643791 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could swim, but it'd be horribly slow and inefficient. < 1438095423 889663 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're also going to have a hell of a time controlling your attitude < 1438095443 126027 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also without friction holding you < 1438095446 230206 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you punch a guy in the face < 1438095449 961105 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the airy case, you might want some sort of wings, like they have flippers for water. < 1438095450 696692 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'de be propelled backwards? < 1438095462 750851 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like underwater rugby < 1438095467 20378 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, if you're attempting to fight someone in space, there's already an attitude problem somewhere < 1438095467 780795 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1438095495 546534 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a grappling style is probably more suited for space fights < 1438095502 386972 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, i mean you could just get your own little propellor jetpack < 1438095517 165517 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonus: you can fight people by doing the superman punch < 1438095531 696242 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah if you have something to "jump off" from < 1438095540 860075 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do matrix style fighting < 1438095542 238661 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :solta < 1438095545 441012 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sorta < 1438095574 837511 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1438095578 741598 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we build a huge enough thing < 1438095578 947830 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo we should wait 3 years until the messiah chris roberts releases his space fps and answers all our questions < 1438095585 64495 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that thing has so much gravity it will suck light towards it < 1438095591 32837 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could build a supermassive camera < 1438095594 625528 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that captures light < 1438095603 273177 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :by actually capturing it < 1438095607 23584 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh i remember a similar idea to that < 1438095616 100653 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :involving using the sun as a gravitational lens < 1438095680 927417 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean constructing artificial gravitational lens to take pictures of things that would be hidden behind something? < 1438095691 364348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm now imagine flippers larger than the person < 1438095691 418561 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438095691 570441 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 QUIT :Changing host < 1438095691 624598 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438095694 897135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*imagining < 1438095717 345083 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean using the sun as a lens to gather more light from a distant object < 1438095729 55791 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. List of sports that would not be fun in zero gravity < 1438095735 119814 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia so needs this < 1438095754 278506 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would that be as-is, or with some modification? < 1438095754 623985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, for the attitude, might a shark-like fin help < 1438095756 474891 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :- all sports < 1438095762 191569 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: minor modifications are allowed < 1438095764 75420 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like baseball < 1438095767 308330 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have a rope < 1438095773 225963 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I don't think darts would be very fun < 1438095775 994773 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so people can pull them selves using the rope around the bases < 1438095780 935693 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*themselves < 1438095783 435424 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, it'd probably be more fun than darts is normally < 1438095787 448267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to see zero-gravity cycling with no modification or extra help. < 1438095814 101982 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could strap a propellor to a bike < 1438095814 963723 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you sit on it? < 1438095823 448101 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know some people who essentially made a submarine that way < 1438095825 856801 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just people furiously pedaling and floating uncontrolledly. < 1438095826 426660 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You wouldn't need to midify the rules to allow some changes to the bikes. < 1438095830 554896 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, staying sat on it is the hard part < 1438095847 758667 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: They've got shoes that lock onto the pedals. < 1438095853 238700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is still waiting for that picture of a black hole that was promised the other year < 1438095866 436764 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could keep the bike on a metal surface by having magnetic wheels. < 1438095876 425259 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, are you sure you weren't just reading promotional material for interstellar < 1438095928 428399 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a black hole is lit form the back, you would bee able to see where the light isn't able to reach you due to the hole. < 1438095957 701968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it wasn't promotion but a blog < 1438095968 901948 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean we know pretty well what we expect black holes to look like by now < 1438095993 496709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2011/07/21/were-going-to-see-a-black-hole/ < 1438096002 504990 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :weight lifting would probably be pretty useless in space? < 1438096033 711251 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd need some sort of bungee cord < 1438096070 46232 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know the iss has a gymn on it already right < 1438096078 752555 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually the people on long space stays will have to do a lot of exercise on board to not loose to much muscle mass. < 1438096081 380 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, here, to tide you over http://sirxemic.github.io/Interstellar/ < 1438096098 413684 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I thought they had something like that < 1438096099 511525 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, I think that is generally more cardio stuff < 1438096110 957699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard about interstellar < 1438096111 126035 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise they probably couldn't even walk anymore when they come back after a few months? < 1438096135 545995 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :muscles vanish pretty quickly < 1438096144 920935 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it's cardio as much as keeping muscle tone < 1438096166 844668 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :three months in a cast and you're thigh are almost gone < 1438096172 164861 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is < 1438096194 984836 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes but this is a live raytracer < 1438096232 720016 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I thought it's about keeping muscles. < 1438096240 883732 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you are right < 1438096313 721446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it took too long, i closed it < 1438096323 812816 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's p taxing < 1438096354 533855 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :though now that i've dusted this computer it runs surprisingly smoothly < 1438096451 483735 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1438096457 560604 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a nicolas cage move I haven't seen < 1438096459 510268 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*movie < 1438096736 763239 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've got the moooovies like cage < 1438096785 500045 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1438096793 33757 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's better than all sharknado movies together < 1438096795 830327 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1438098063 766936 :SopaXT!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438098697 92333 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1438099573 27564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1438099952 651290 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438100071 317467 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1438100884 967614 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-202-31.w92-151.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1438101976 324021 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438102692 775513 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1438102926 92889 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBS < 1438103183 105237 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have installed the threaded Apache MPM, but now it says the package for PHP is not threadsafe (I have some PHP files that I will need to be able to run) < 1438103337 821983 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438104269 514856 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1438105432 238547 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-76-1.42-151.net24.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1438105956 593911 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438106591 544021 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's up with this edit?: http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=LOLCODE&diff=43600&oldid=42122 < 1438106658 207920 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang talk:Rules14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43613&oldid=43603 5* 03Ais523 5* (+158) 10[[Esolang:Policy]] < 1438106719 399612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know? < 1438106737 840937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: whoa, "?:" < 1438106743 768114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :innovative punctuation < 1438106748 922078 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should try using that. < 1438106793 294192 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it < 1438106803 926713 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's also an operator in GNU C) < 1438106830 581747 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The previous revision had a duplicate entry. < 1438106836 905868 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=LOLCODE&oldid=42122 < 1438106848 310353 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah good < 1438106851 535676 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, an operator of GNU C that I tend to use often < 1438106867 628595 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've actually never used it < 1438106879 359391 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I use the Perl equivalents, || and //, quite a lot < 1438107222 47982 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1438107413 271521 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438107707 289078 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438108904 267041 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438109049 174874 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBS < 1438109701 741692 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1438109837 502288 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :thesis submitted! < 1438110103 233045 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: what? great! < 1438110112 206860 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of thesis? < 1438110456 993742 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :master's < 1438110538 523503 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-76-1.42-151.net24.it QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438110662 390466 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :fist < 1438110673 969020 :fist!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1438110842 630503 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you produce a regex that matches c style strings? < 1438110862 328960 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1438110866 507678 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, what is your thesis about? < 1438110871 77061 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(\\.|[^\\"])+" < 1438110885 652377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a Perl regex < 1438110886 513750 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1438110888 567124 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1438110894 403656 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1438110900 724662 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :because "\"" < 1438110910 948567 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, I meant +, not * < 1438110912 539866 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that matches < 1438110920 799189 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\\. matches \" < 1438110928 165588 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the double quotes match themselves literally < 1438110930 264095 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\\\"" < 1438110943 436479 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\\. matches \\, then \\. matches \" < 1438110958 115667 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: graph structure theory and logic < 1438110984 180575 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh < 1438110998 953554 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you so much ais523 < 1438111029 757398 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was trying with "(.*[^\\]|)(\\\\)*" but it got too complex < 1438111154 540525 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sorry for being stupid < 1438111466 848861 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: almost, but no. that matches a newline between double quotes, which is not a valid string literal. < 1438111471 373186 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Humans do not need to excuse themselves for Stupidity. It resembles an evil inheritable Disease. < 1438111593 333117 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ah yes < 1438111602 393207 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(\\.|[^\\"\n])+" < 1438111612 193188 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are formfeeds legal inside C literals? might need to ban those too < 1438111727 932759 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1438112062 79801 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang talk:Rules14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43614&oldid=43613 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+68) 10Requested link < 1438112070 73215 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: then of course there's the problem that "\k" isn't a valid string literal either < 1438112073 350085 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1438112184 641741 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang talk:Policy14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43615&oldid=30569 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+343) 10/* Expand article scope */ new section < 1438112355 57150 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Policy14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43616&oldid=30638 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+78) 10Clarified where articles can go. (That is, specified that only pages in the _main_ namespace have to be on Esolangs, as I'm pretty sure user namepace pages are generally users) < 1438112384 621600 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438112400 43694 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the record, I didn't change the meaning of the page, I just made it more clear < 1438112573 716502 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Tangle bracket language14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43617&oldid=43612 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+276) 10Answered a question. < 1438112592 393692 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Tangle bracket language14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43618&oldid=43617 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+92) 10Signed < 1438112729 52140 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Tangle bracket language14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43619&oldid=43618 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+229) 10Clarified my answer < 1438112731 851489 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that changes the meaning. < 1438112740 921800 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it? < 1438112746 409597 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hmkvrzxffgowpewn QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1438112751 525910 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also less clear, but that might just be due to lack of proofreading. < 1438112776 484951 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What I meant to say was that the "Esolangs only as articles" rule only applied in the _main_ namespace < 1438112807 247802 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So no one will get upset from confusion when they first encounter a User: page < 1438112817 226907 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry if I was unclear < 1438112825 485799 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I revert it? < 1438112909 535030 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I might speak my own dialect of english that _no one else understands_ :P' < 1438112922 299327 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to go shower < 1438112942 768177 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to revert it or try to make my unclarity clear, please do < 1438113408 595743 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have I timed out yet? < 1438113409 977329 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1438113497 65889 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Policy14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43620&oldid=43616 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (-78) 10Undo revision 43616 by Self (I was told it actually made it less clear and changed the meaning) < 1438113723 769706 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: There, that better? < 1438114171 741561 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Folder14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43621&oldid=43052 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+524) 10Proved Folder TC < 1438114415 885838 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I've thought of a cryptographic problem. < 1438114453 109194 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are m people. How can they randomly select n people from themselves, such that each of the people selected knows exactly who has been selected, but each of the people not selected only knows that ey has not been selected? < 1438114489 945744 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming that all communication is public? < 1438114508 405885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :without that it's easy < 1438114515 665665 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, are we assuming that all these people are honest? < 1438114527 938919 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to tell xterm to erase a picture from a specified area in the screen? < 1438114550 867143 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, given the existence of private-key crypto < 1438114573 264392 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not necessarily honest, but if they have all acted honestly, it must be possible for them to prove, after the fact, that they have acted honestly. < 1438114576 753089 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION taps his microphone. < 1438114627 210708 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, given the existence of private-key crypto, I don't think it matters whether all communication is public or not. < 1438114645 717162 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that if all communication is public, then it's possible for a person to prove that they haven't communicated anything at all. < 1438114729 445791 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and it's fine if it's possible for a person to ruin everything by not being honest—but if somebody does that, it will be impossible for em to prove after the fact that ey has acted honestly. < 1438114750 184773 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you say 'randomly'... < 1438114753 1960 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so everyone will assume that ey has *not* acted honestly, and force em to walk the plank. < 1438114759 974927 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uniform distribution. < 1438114770 21093 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :99999999999999999999999999999 bottles of beer on the wall < 1438114774 545658 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :99999999999999999999999999999 bottles of beer! < 1438114780 18549 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take one down, pass it around < 1438114781 826347 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a public source of random information handy; anyone can invoke it, and when they do, everyone sees the result. < 1438114784 401621 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], please don't < 1438114790 141801 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :99999999999999999999999999998 bottles of beer on the wall! < 1438114794 760626 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm done :P < 1438114818 113934 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1438114828 138214 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If everyone has a number assigned to them... that won't work < 1438114864 681760 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you could come up with one key pair corresponding to every possible selection of people. < 1438114873 562111 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reveal the public key, and give the private key to each of the people in the selection. < 1438114896 906381 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, somehow, encrypt a message using a randomly chosen public key, without letting anyone know which public key was selected. < 1438114901 156980 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably that's part of it at least < 1438114908 489246 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i can randomly pick the first person i think i can do the rest < 1438114922 412793 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the caveat that probably everyone has to draw a random number at once < 1438114951 66843 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait everyone's playing along right, there's no competitive/betrayal element is there < 1438114975 386691 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, here are the properties the protocol must follow. < 1438114988 190075 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If no one is trying to break the system, then it isn't a very good cryptography problem :P < 1438114997 811978 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hang on the public random number thing is fairly pointless < 1438115007 615152 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :If everyone behaves correctly, then the protocol must work properly, and after everything is finished, it must be possible for everyone to prove that they have behaved correctly. < 1438115032 736685 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :If someone behaves incorrectly, then the protocol need not work properly, but it must *not* be possible for that person to ever prove that ey has behaved correctly. < 1438115049 604914 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what's the use of this problem? < 1438115059 817011 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there some situation in the world in which this would be useful? < 1438115066 684910 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Playing a game of "The Rebellion" when nobody trusts anybody. < 1438115067 160671 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: there's this parlour game called Werewolf < 1438115073 629073 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: The part that made it less clear was "them" instead of "the". < 1438115075 803865 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Werewolf/Mafia. < 1438115082 166621 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck don't remind me < 1438115088 398846 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1438115090 288194 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i played that on holiday with someone very annoying < 1438115097 54685 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mafia < 1438115100 804469 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember that game < 1438115119 739947 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what would the practical uses for this be though? < 1438115138 758139 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway if we can randomly, privately pick one person it becomes pretty simple, they just pick another n-1 people at random < 1438115144 253625 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno. < 1438115153 36238 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the problem reduces to just that < 1438115176 443950 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well for that < 1438115190 565797 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give everyone a public key and a private key < 1438115204 115970 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1438115207 100261 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Encrypt the message "You have been selected" with one random person's public key < 1438115214 313859 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And give the message to everybody < 1438115216 997390 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1438115218 214681 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but who does that encryption < 1438115226 393443 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have to select from themselves, right :/ < 1438115245 542289 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't count on the people being honest < 1438115250 879560 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, given a collection of public keys, is it possible to encypt a message using a randomly chosen one of those keys, without letting anyone know which key it was? < 1438115255 949892 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that the person making the selection will be able to decrypt any message directed at them < 1438115271 254174 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1438115274 897168 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well have the pubic keys < 1438115280 391230 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WANT TO ANSWER FIRST < 1438115283 697867 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All in a hat < 1438115285 465911 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you do is you get one person to encrypt everyone's public key with their own private key < 1438115297 89082 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, no < 1438115304 638625 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without names on it < 1438115310 424390 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't work because if you produced a message yourself, you can decrypt it even without the key < 1438115325 346884 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So everybody has a private key and a less private key < 1438115334 497153 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one knows who either belongs to < 1438115349 781790 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the private key can decrypt messages written with the less private key < 1438115363 59287 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone draws a less-private key from a hat and doesn't know who it belongs to < 1438115370 486940 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: how expensive can you allow it to be? if there's only a few public keys, you can encrypt the message with one of the keys and encrypt dummy empty messages of the same size with the other keys. < 1438115370 590570 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And encrypts the message with it < 1438115381 12434 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And sends the message to everybody < 1438115394 139935 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: the person who has the private keys will of course be able to tell. < 1438115422 403196 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does my solution sound? < 1438115431 686425 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you get the anonymous public keys though < 1438115438 542743 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the major, glaring problem with it < 1438115451 220793 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I assume you just don't tell anybody your private-ish key < 1438115457 415486 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so by "less private key", it sounds like you essentially mean "public key, except it's not necessarily revealed to everyone". Right? < 1438115458 856977 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you put it in a random sorter anonymously < 1438115462 531598 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hang on it could work actually yeah < 1438115463 89568 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly < 1438115471 551603 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :every-- no ok right < 1438115472 126056 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1438115485 764855 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I actually solve a problem? < 1438115489 522578 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That can't be right... < 1438115492 665426 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :right so this is the method being considered < 1438115495 727424 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see. < 1438115507 256205 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have the Private Key which nobody knows < 1438115524 96599 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And as a bonus, I don't think anybody but the encrypter can break the system < 1438115536 719391 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the public key of it is then published, you put the private key into a hat with m-1 blank slips < 1438115539 473773 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Barring brute force attacks, of vourse < 1438115548 520384 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :then everyone draws a slip and whoever gets the key is the handler, all fine < 1438115549 870513 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does the "putting in a hat" work? If everyone has a message, then how does everyone publish the message in such a way that nobody knows who sent which message? < 1438115558 460587 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :but where do you get the Private Key from? < 1438115559 821684 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1438115582 850588 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, nvm < 1438115592 837073 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. I think there might be an optimized version of my method. < 1438115609 611558 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait for fuck's sake if you can draw from a hat you don't need keys at all, you just need a marked slip < 1438115642 442070 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone publishes eir own public key. Someone takes a message and randomly encrypts it with each public key in succession... wait, this is going to require anonymous sending. < 1438115660 662675 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :doable < 1438115670 997723 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :agree that everyone publishes a message every 5 minutes < 1438115722 878191 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So we want to do "anonymous sending"—someone publishes a message in such a way that nobody knows who published it. < 1438115744 513652 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :If everyone publishes a message every five minutes, then how does the message get anonymized? < 1438115751 641496 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's much harder < 1438115764 198427 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you meant sending messages such that nobody but the communicants know about it < 1438115773 478297 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bSqEn8FtRh7iM8KYvOK8_DW03xAwjvAK0pIrR2RkO8U/edit?usp=sharing < 1438115784 125501 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :This anonymous sending isn't necessarily needed, though. < 1438115788 34708 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There < 1438115800 390426 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'll make it easier to figure out what's going on < 1438115906 219719 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have an idea. < 1438115918 537484 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So we come up with a public key corresponding to every possible selection. < 1438115932 549254 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone knows which selection corresponds to which public key. < 1438115944 584335 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, come to think of it, this doesn't quite work, but I'll continue anyway. < 1438115978 112514 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :again the problem reduces to the case where you need to pick one person from a group of m < 1438116007 717326 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :A designated person selects a random public key, in such a way that ey can later prove that it was actually selected randomly. < 1438116019 67897 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The designated person then simply publishes a message encrypted using that public key. < 1438116036 44360 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi NICK :atehwa < 1438116038 25409 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, come to think of it, this isn't anything new. < 1438116062 359492 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This problem breaks when n=m-1 < 1438116075 801158 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming that the participants know the value of n < 1438116076 639103 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GTG < 1438116090 949810 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adios. < 1438116137 188549 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, er, wouldn't the designated person know who got selected then? < 1438116145 143819 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yes. < 1438116156 300311 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a problem < 1438116157 372268 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, so "encrypt something with a randomly chosen key" is a sufficient, uh, tool. < 1438116208 84261 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, I think "draw a message out of a hat and burn the other messages" may also be sufficient. < 1438116241 348809 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have that, then each person can randomly choose a public key which contains em, encrypt something using that key, and put it into the hat. < 1438116269 705356 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, ey will have to be able to prove later that ey really selected it randomly. < 1438116302 300431 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I don't think that's necessary. < 1438116317 259057 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each person can simply encrypt something using *every* public key which contains em. < 1438116324 485341 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then submit all of these into the hat. < 1438116338 557514 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then pick a random encrypted message out of the hat. Boom. < 1438116415 203579 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back < 1438116415 868533 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're allowed a hat it's trivial < 1438116430 80746 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So do participants know the value of n? < 1438116450 105789 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They probably must, given that one of them does the selecting < 1438116459 972873 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't have to < 1438116463 327012 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the selector has to know how many to choose < 1438116474 363082 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you have an anonymous handler you can do that stuff easily < 1438116495 668952 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But how does the handler know how many keys to choose? < 1438116513 320618 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :All participants know both m and n. < 1438116515 59335 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :have everyone publish a public key at the start, pick the handler < 1438116517 451633 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they don't know hte value of n < 1438116518 460213 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1438116528 57461 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So then if n=m-1, then this is impossible < 1438116533 451048 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. < 1438116533 865211 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the handler then proceeds according to some algorithm with their private key as input < 1438116537 483147 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1438116548 395268 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], just exclude that case, it works fine for n=m-2 < 1438116550 634415 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lone unselected person knows nothing besides the fact that the selected people are the people other than emself. < 1438116554 53013 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1438116560 633579 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1438116572 806161 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But he isn't supposed to know who was selected < 1438116577 959575 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right? < 1438116580 592244 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have to leave again < 1438116583 563511 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be back in a bit < 1438116594 709252 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :He isn't supposed to have any information besides the information that's supposed to be explicitly revealed to him. < 1438116597 922205 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :And sure enough, he doesn't. < 1438116652 483283 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just so happens that when n = m - 1, the information of who the selected people are *is* effectively explicitly revealed to him. < 1438116749 367493 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so once again, how do you pick one person within the mentioned constraints < 1438116837 665550 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438117223 144744 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438117700 297021 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1438118018 599250 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438118027 36840 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So did you guys solve the problem? < 1438118103 775707 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett? < 1438118313 172527 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1438118384 983676 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO PROBLEM HERE < 1438118391 973515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION returns to the logs < 1438118409 356296 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1438118420 794867 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You on? < 1438118431 897974 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1438118486 638936 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you guys figure out the solution to the problem? < 1438118535 898265 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I lost interest < 1438118537 398605 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, fix problem plx < 1438118539 135536 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a while back < 1438118547 109237 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1438118552 848464 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, we got it down to something a lot simpler by the end < 1438118563 818234 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you happen to know of any online database of problems like that I could read? < 1438118571 792485 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Rules14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43622 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+28) 10Since someone expected it here, make a redirect < 1438118584 941056 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great < 1438118878 661549 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Help14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43623&oldid=37152 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+0) 10/* Article names with forbidden characters */ I think this should be in code format < 1438119290 254039 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the problem seems to come down to hat-picking. < 1438119499 978997 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1438119509 545533 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: rebooting < 1438119543 657225 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438119603 685988 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bohily < 1438119697 192962 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonjørjan! < 1438119725 835619 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1438119825 790501 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1438120853 241405 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438121808 811354 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1438122141 409020 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1438122157 55516 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1438122188 484930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf: What I meant to say was that the "Esolangs only as articles" rule only applied in the _main_ namespace <-- i am not sure that is true in either direction... < 1438122235 97592 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : i like bugs. i like bugs! i like bugs. i like bugs. <-- i think i like bugs too! < 1438122237 189037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, there are other things than esolangs allowed in the main space, and there are probably also things so off topic that we'd look sternly at someone filling their user pages with them < 1438122261 909751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(especially if they made a lot of pages) < 1438122300 341020 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WP:NOT#WEBHOST < 1438122300 881014 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we already allow general CS stuff as long as its useful for esolanging < 1438122326 970956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it's < 1438122349 869387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what we don't allow, because it'd get the site all out of focus, is non-esoteric _languages_ < 1438122396 355205 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about non-language esoterica? < 1438122398 288732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, everything i've said here probably has at least one exception on the wiki already.) < 1438122439 624325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the boundaries exist but are _very_ vague, i think < 1438122497 526017 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: How did your lens talk go? < 1438122508 968 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, seeing as it's tomorrow < 1438122524 587064 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess we'll find out < 1438122527 720651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: just make sure to keep it focused hth < 1438122529 249823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you really expect me to keep track of things down to the last day < 1438122639 535560 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, yes < 1438122646 204921 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get a wall calendar hth < 1438122682 981125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if i had a wallendar i probably wouldn't think to put your talk on it < 1438122692 715977 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get multiple wall calenders hth < 1438122701 77336 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know < 1438122706 357436 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :treederwright is online right now < 1438122719 73401 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, do I know who that is < 1438122741 569201 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote matrix of solidity < 1438122753 634588 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :240) enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity < 1438122759 378090 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1438122762 788766 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how they are doing < 1438122805 524279 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately he is away < 1438122824 383828 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1438122824 438181 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1438122977 347544 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia, hppavellon[1]. < 1438122987 90511 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438123083 948391 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should updfate the wisdom... < 1438123111 516722 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi boily < 1438123250 305696 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: man, quake chat has been great today < 1438123258 63358 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: it's normally pretty good < 1438123272 48882 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, there hasn't been much need for mod actions to keep it good < 1438123275 749816 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is unusual < 1438123282 551202 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it normally is, yeah, but it's been even better than usual imo < 1438123287 778453 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed < 1438123307 292675 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1438123311 50900 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many unrelated IRC channels do we share right now? < 1438123320 189867 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least three < 1438123328 133493 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack, esoteric, nomic, gdq < 1438123331 834122 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is quake chat what it sounds like? < 1438123333 636729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :four, I forgot ##nomic < 1438123338 601619 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no < 1438123342 859213 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in three with boily < 1438123347 772908 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what does it sound like? < 1438123382 281462 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure i'm in a channel with anyone < 1438123385 209821 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: does #nethack4 count as unrelated to #esoteric ? < 1438123390 25881 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does < 1438123391 885716 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, despite the overlap < 1438123393 401491 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not unrelated to #nethack < 1438123394 761959 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in users < 1438123403 152395 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no real reason why the subjects should be connected < 1438123403 250633 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that mysterious fucker `vsomething < 1438123413 510451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, there's a big ##nomic/#esoteric overlap too < 1438123417 975281 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that still unsettles me < 1438123423 945689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to be in #nethack. < 1438123424 65 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: ah, you're just going by name. like the... ok, never mind < 1438123441 737662 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: no, by subject matter < 1438123459 252378 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. I consider #tasvideos and #hourglass to be connected < 1438123462 70174 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though the names are unrelated < 1438123473 842105 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I share four chännels with shachaf. < 1438123487 956961 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :diareses don't work like that < 1438123493 528559 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's more like two chаnnels. < 1438123496 361532 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I share 5 with shachaf, hah < 1438123504 820860 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But three sets of channels, I guess < 1438123529 18719 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you stalkers :-) < 1438123530 359827 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog `v < 1438123532 811287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Taneb isn't in one part of that channel. < 1438123538 567260 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :does pastlog still work < 1438123546 857247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hasn't worked for a long time. < 1438123550 502131 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I don't think HackEgo has access to the logs < 1438123554 307639 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ofc, that thing < 1438123560 846482 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/pastlog: 2: cd: can't cd to /var/irclogs/_esoteric \ ls: cannot access ????-??-??.txt: No such file or directory < 1438123571 224290 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone remember who 'that `v fucker' was, i can't find them in the logs < 1438123590 462883 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! it was ^v < 1438123612 814198 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`^_^v i think < 1438123613 399730 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ^_^v: not found < 1438123615 772843 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it the same as |f`-`|f ? < 1438123622 376372 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck i misremembered that < 1438123644 939209 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just the same style of annoying nick? < 1438123697 528048 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, different person < 1438123742 953051 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Magicard!14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43624&oldid=38024 5* 03Quintopia 5* (-28) 10knuth pronunciation is standard right? < 1438123770 897184 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the only other channel i'm consistently in is in another network, has maybe 30 people in it and is about a mod for an ancient game with no connection whatsoever to esolangs < 1438123780 487680 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :and `^_^v was in both < 1438123814 258051 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :never said a word there or here except when i asked if they were the same person < 1438123817 969272 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. suspicious < 1438123902 232809 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`^_^v. suspicious. < 1438123902 688059 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ^_^v.: not found < 1438123927 989744 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ^_^v < 1438123929 968539 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^_^v? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1438124005 297059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION didn't notice ^v had disappeared < 1438124080 281449 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many disappeared peoples... Bike, elliott, Fiora, oklopol, itidus[n | n <- [19..21]]... < 1438124096 794792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the only thing i'm getting out of your crypto problem is the vague feeling you're all thinking _far_ too approximately to trust what you came up with. < 1438124168 111595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol came by "incognito" a while gao < 1438124182 462014 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ago < 1438124209 41891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect the elliott that is currently online is someone else < 1438124230 847813 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1438124246 983919 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not identified < 1438124287 649953 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks about right < 1438124316 306674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora is online, and i saw Bike not too long ago < 1438124335 579145 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea about itidus < 1438124394 550006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nitia hasn't been around in a while. < 1438124480 98005 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nitia? < 1438124487 451587 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1438124522 426588 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You figured that out more quickly than I did. < 1438124535 348643 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've used /ns info a lot in the last ten minutes < 1438124577 588417 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1438124582 452355 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb registered nitia? < 1438124592 768649 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently < 1438124667 976008 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20141017071618-3815022-secure-programming-ada-vs-rust < 1438124673 757055 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My eyes, my eyes! < 1438124808 30954 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn otiose < 1438124809 603462 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "otiose" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1438124809 706205 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :otiose < 1438124809 760497 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : adj 1: serving no useful purpose; having no excuse for being; < 1438124809 760547 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "otiose lines in a play"; "advice is wasted words"; "a < 1438124809 760577 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : pointless remark"; "a life essentially purposeless"; < 1438124811 607007 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[12 @more lines] < 1438124844 594323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is otiose a homological word < 1438124867 425148 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I guess I learned a word today < 1438124871 239979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1438124871 340545 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "senseless violence" [syn: {otiose}, {pointless}, < 1438124871 483088 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : {purposeless}, {senseless}, {superfluous}, {wasted}] < 1438124871 537385 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: producing no result or effect; "a futile effort"; "the < 1438124871 537451 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : therapy was ineffectual"; "an otiose undertaking"; "an < 1438124871 537512 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : unavailing attempt" [syn: {futile}, {ineffectual}, {otiose}, < 1438124873 462135 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[7 @more lines] < 1438124882 146533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1438124909 30382 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so something is otiose, either if it doesn't have a useful end goal, or if it does but fails to get anywhere near it or anywhere else < 1438124937 336477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ct2015.web.ua.pt/talks.html < 1438124994 603739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :me in a nutshell there < 1438125026 97206 :Herbalist!~oz@185.99.220.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438125026 402993 :Herbalist!~oz@185.99.220.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1438125026 457147 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1438125050 721423 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist PART :#esoteric < 1438125090 921490 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Magicard!14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43625&oldid=43624 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+7) 10bug fix < 1438125625 102178 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Magicard!14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43626&oldid=43625 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+78) 10bug fix < 1438125659 137012 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Magicard!14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43627&oldid=43626 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+4) 10/* Examples */ < 1438125678 546711 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Magicard!14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43628&oldid=43627 5* 03Quintopia 5* (-4) 10/* Examples */ < 1438125915 999758 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Magicard!14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43629&oldid=43628 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+5) 10deck size reqs < 1438126115 620716 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good ebeningu < 1438126160 349550 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can the mouse pointer be changed in xterm when the program is set to receive mouse events? < 1438126182 961839 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :コレンばんは! < 1438126183 421841 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Magicard!14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43630&oldid=43629 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+143) 10handle edge case < 1438126331 512145 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So < 1438126794 88619 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a Declarative Stack-Based language < 1438126811 583480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh am i supposed to get GT to translate japanese portmanteaus now < 1438126842 454838 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In what? < 1438126856 338583 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd be AWESOME by the way < 1438127068 509315 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1438127169 958776 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438127265 733954 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I admit japormantese may be a little be far fetched... < 1438127376 35201 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Abstract machine14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43631 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+195) 10Created page < 1438127578 826582 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Abstract machine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43632&oldid=43631 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+582) 10Added a section on turing machines (other people are free to add more < 1438127660 379487 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1438129141 782731 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-urfvdsnwrhicltkn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Declarative... < 1438129155 589035 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"from this day on forward, I shall never write a JIT again without Jesse". https://www.squarefree.com/2015/07/28/releasing-jsfunfuzz-and-domfuzz/ < 1438130522 755569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Void < 1438130524 81865 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: data constructor ‘Void’ < 1438130524 187743 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1438130524 241831 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : variable ‘void’ (imported from Control.Monad.Writer), < 1438130528 815776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k Void < 1438130530 309472 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: type constructor or class ‘Void’ < 1438130542 436858 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k Data.Void.Void < 1438130543 710705 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :* < 1438130549 608081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t absurd < 1438130550 976749 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: ‘absurd’ < 1438130553 541914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1438130692 228764 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PARADISIAC CHICKEN < 1438130708 745828 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t absurd < 1438130710 637406 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input ‘:’ < 1438130712 688158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1438130716 265204 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t absurd < 1438130717 23637 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :09absurd : 12Uninhabited 13t => 13t -> 13a < 1438131077 526349 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Data.Void.absurd < 1438131078 798956 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Void.Void -> a < 1438131105 500322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a non-imported module, so cannot be run from > < 1438131226 410027 :heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-iufhlyudzqfhksot QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1438131341 376671 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-nehuzwddhcnridbk JOIN :#esoteric < 1438131355 647602 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438131523 334793 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1438131536 361132 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist PART :#esoteric < 1438131726 609173 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438131907 617281 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438132815 213631 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:c5c5:ff1f:f515:93cc JOIN :#esoteric < 1438133054 112114 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf < 1438133054 166530 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beware < 1438133054 166609 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I LIVE < 1438133088 138954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how is absurd implemented? a pattern match with an empty body? < 1438133112 525915 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@source Data.Void.absurd < 1438133112 629237 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1438133119 575196 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1438133119 629548 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1438133127 906571 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :… < 1438133139 545458 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@listmodules < 1438133139 646186 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :activity base bf check compose dice dict djinn dummy elite eval filter free fresh haddock help hoogle instances irc karma localtime metar more oeis offlineRC pl pointful poll pretty quote search slap source spell system tell ticker todo topic type undo unlambda unmtl version where < 1438133144 436812 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list source < 1438133144 539845 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :source provides: src < 1438133148 983144 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src Data.Void.absurd < 1438133149 37279 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. < 1438133211 566984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i think that depends on the Data.Void version < 1438133233 847132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src absurd < 1438133233 949751 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. Take a stress pill and think things over. < 1438133249 458192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also @src isn't a good source of sources hth < 1438133253 611248 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:c5c5:ff1f:f515:93cc PART :#esoteric < 1438133312 623452 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438133339 345442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :latest version has newtype Void = Void Void < 1438133373 745200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's still not based on empty datatypes < 1438133420 138428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :absurd a = a `seq` spin a where spin (Void b) = spin b < 1438133490 100723 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting use of `seq`, there < 1438133493 614133 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"data Void; absurd :: Void -> a; absurd x = case x of {}" is a valid implementation. < 1438133512 114238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but not the one used in the void package < 1438133512 685767 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(With recent GHC, at least.) < 1438133528 70915 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this one of the few places you actually require braces in Haskell? < 1438133536 770346 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does it have a pass keyword? < 1438133570 83497 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "case x of" would be OK. < 1438133591 806088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the layout rules should insert {} if what follows is indented right < 1438133608 546168 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if it's not indented any further right. < 1438133624 970191 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1438133722 517612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk is presumably keeping it in old style due to his policy of supporting at least 3 Haskell Platform versions < 1438133779 814116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hackage.haskell.org/package/void says "Haskell 98" < 1438133799 463001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I proposed a Void type in base and everyone was in favour. < 1438133806 448347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I didn't do anything about it. < 1438133818 250688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of you folks who get things done, like oerjan, can pick it up. < 1438133965 931213 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sarcasm and serious reality disconnect are so hard to distinguish < 1438134053 594731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait it actually _was_ added to base < 1438134309 660388 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438134359 118709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i used my great powers to do it in the past hth < 1438134371 531506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, so it was < 1438134402 820231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, now I remember. < 1438134418 770593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/9814 < 1438134420 424185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, amusing is-this-a-bug-or-not? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31689305/haskell-data-void-undefined-turns-into-infinite-loop < 1438134427 177681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hvr kept bugging me about filing that. < 1438134460 332685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, so /that's/ what the `seq` is for < 1438134472 458993 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :answer: it isn't a bug, Haskell defines exceptions and infinite loops as equivalent < 1438134488 868416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I didn't realize you were asking. < 1438134493 422150 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you weren't. < 1438134569 931444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew it wasn't technically a bug, still unexpected < 1438134592 430284 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the seq ought to prevent it < 1438134644 103758 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :seq doesn't give any guarantees there. < 1438134652 283588 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a `seq` b can force either b or a first. < 1438134653 386909 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's true < 1438134658 969341 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if "undefined :: Void" is an infinite loop by itself < 1438134667 867967 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then changing the definition of absurd won't help < 1438134678 709630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explains absurd undefined, although not undefined :: Void alone... < 1438134691 499618 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does Void implement Show? < 1438134691 742036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe the Show will explain that < 1438134696 916434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1438134699 51210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"show" on a value of type void < 1438134702 749935 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't need to look at the value at all < 1438134709 1727 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it has only one constructor < 1438134717 243057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has zero constructors. < 1438134720 336434 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, right < 1438134724 129560 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> show (undefined :: ()) < 1438134725 873014 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "*Exception: Prelude.undefined < 1438134727 367324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> show (undefined :: Void) < 1438134728 718870 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: type constructor or class ‘Void’ < 1438134732 328302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and show uses absurd... < 1438134733 471795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was one constructor in the version oerjan linked earlier < 1438134743 491675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, sure. < 1438134744 108693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i might be able to answer that question < 1438134752 90412 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, if the impl of show uses absurd < 1438134754 418186 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then yes, it's obvious < 1438134759 349925 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed it'd just be "deriving Show" :-) < 1438134844 894400 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, that would probably have printed "Void (Void (Void ... < 1438134875 889353 :h0rsep0wer_znc!~t3cora18@2001:470:8b70:1337::c0de QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1438134878 401398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would have been unexpected for ais523 yesterday. < 1438134916 370898 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it was unexpected due to me not thinking about the implications < 1438134932 974400 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, not unexpected if you think about it. < 1438135051 140019 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe you'd expect it in Haskell and not in a strict language. < 1438135151 491261 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, it's possible to create an infinite structure in a strict language using self-reference < 1438135156 786541 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OCaml actually has explicit syntax for doing so < 1438135191 876360 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it's possible, I'm just saying that maybe you would find it more unexpected. < 1438135210 999465 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Haskell a cyclic data structure is just a special case of an infinite data structure. < 1438135228 588489 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438135236 119972 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to see a BF derivative with A tape of trees of stacks < 1438135276 119095 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to an integer tape < 1438135530 725155 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1438135717 294086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION posted his answer to the thread < 1438135780 324866 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What thread in particular? < 1438135971 638258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31689305/haskell-data-void-undefined-turns-into-infinite-loop < 1438135998 466236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess "thread" isn't the right word for SO < 1438136202 198106 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i note that edwardk hasn't updated void to reexport the base version yet < 1438136333 392754 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk: Any plans to do that? < 1438136519 546304 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of a way to make a more legible Funge-like language < 1438136523 21986 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Fungoid < 1438136527 413504 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the word I was looking for < 1438136531 368161 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer is: CSV < 1438136622 684641 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh < 1438136628 91848 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about a Meta-Fungoid language? < 1438136871 23254 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah < 1438137306 39502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was some 2d language with legible words... < 1438138166 900397 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Wittgen's Zucchini14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43633 5* 03MDude 5* (+1147) 10Created page with "A programming language meant to combine elements primarily of [[Wittgen]] and [[Zucchini]] to create a language for programs related to neural activity, noting that node behav..." < 1438138220 937721 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meta-Fungoid? < 1438138256 766285 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno what that would mean. < 1438138325 75184 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe to something like X3D, where you have a grid of characters, but each one represents a subprogram written in a non-fungoid language. < 1438138403 48458 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though the non-fungoid parts would need to be limited in a way as to make sure it can't be sued to effectively bypass using any fungoidness. < 1438139938 314088 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1438140340 551705 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@71-222-86-154.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438141050 626803 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438141389 164890 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1438141740 386416 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1438141786 367480 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438142190 678568 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438143164 513798 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1438143387 815879 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Client Quit < 1438143530 889051 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1438143544 536096 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi rdococ! < 1438144617 246196 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1438144719 312343 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm writing an article for an Esoteric data Structure < 1438144768 886766 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1438144785 329442 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric data structure? < 1438145001 880622 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of esoteric data structure is it? < 1438145156 205824 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Disney queue14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43634 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+2040) 10Created Page < 1438145162 855164 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one < 1438145181 756865 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438145196 482474 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438145196 780809 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: The Disney Queue < 1438145214 336594 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's badly written, but it gets the point across, I hope < 1438145368 263816 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1438145373 664162 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 was the one who asked < 1438145605 514113 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38? < 1438145670 149967 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[071mpr0mp214]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43635&oldid=37953 5* 03Xavo 5* (+19) 10changed "Quintopia" to "[[User:Quintopia|Quintopia]]" < 1438145727 992184 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not quite understand the last section so well < 1438145742 126453 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[071mpr0mp214]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43636&oldid=43635 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (-10) 10The style guide clearly states to leave on the User: prefix < 1438145748 899989 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1438145750 931624 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty bad < 1438145844 508192 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how a child swap works at Disney? < 1438145882 206421 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1438145916 865874 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1438145926 484049 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, when a child is too short to ride a rid < 1438145927 545600 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1438145934 399973 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But has both parents with them < 1438145948 453836 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parent A can ride and Parent B stays behind with the child < 1438145957 472638 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then at the end of Parent A's ride < 1438145972 110750 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parent B rides and Parent A stays back to care for the child < 1438145988 156845 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They let the pair who aren't riding wait by the gate < 1438145993 854839 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1438146018 896900 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It kind of lost meaning in the thing < 1438146032 896254 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I explain how Child Swaps work at disney to clarify in the article? < 1438146053 348151 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I suppose so. < 1438146132 803255 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you like the use of the (r) in the function on FastPass? < 1438146249 317709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Fnord < 1438146266 910562 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Disney queue14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43637&oldid=43634 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+396) 10Explained Child Swap < 1438146267 460644 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really care. An actual implementation would likely not use any of the same syntax as mentioned there < 1438146288 597359 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1438146302 508593 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disney Queue isn't a language, it's a Data Structure < 1438146321 943478 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, I can see that < 1438146345 893395 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is why aAn actual implementation would likely not use any of the same syntax as mentioned there . < 1438146378 860764 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1438146379 878602 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1438146386 528210 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used Python's syntax because Python < 1438146394 194989 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to be away for a bit < 1438146398 533278 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1438146466 787964 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnørdjan < 1438147083 666623 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to view Windows .HLP files in Linux? < 1438148438 548544 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ResPlicate14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43638&oldid=38936 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+0) 10wrong year < 1438149260 774989 :ineiros!~itniemin@dsl-hkibrasgw1-58c3fe-184.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1438151076 542684 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm-a-back < 1438151453 948818 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wel-a-come a-back < 1438151842 493304 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just discovered Irreparably Confused Foundations of Mathematics < 1438153612 177119 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Generic Brainfuck Derivative14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43639 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+390) 10Created Page (Note to self: Get back to this later) < 1438155589 387067 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord. < 1438155677 629691 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a doubly-linked list is just a binary tree whose left node is its parent. < 1438157136 600700 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438157144 395214 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438157363 483623 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1438157517 305807 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1438157527 869132 :ineiros!~itniemin@dsl-hkibrasgw1-58c3fe-184.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1438157630 343167 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1438158336 670917 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438158531 680494 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ebay.de/itm/191586916547?clk_rvr_id=875456501399&rmvSB=true < 1438159026 868394 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-202-31.w92-151.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1438159845 620773 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438160438 414923 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438160695 32791 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1438161036 50704 :Loop!~Loop@184-155-7-184.cpe.cableone.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438161219 855343 :Loop!~Loop@184-155-7-184.cpe.cableone.net QUIT : < 1438162232 255482 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438162239 605318 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438162284 906414 :j-bot!~j-bot@li339-21.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438162989 917996 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What do you usually eat? < 1438162990 227316 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: at which point does -infinity become infinity? how many schemes use a gc. < 1438163020 99510 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean... if you keept subtracting from -infinity it will wrap-around eventually < 1438163098 916268 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, fungot exclusively uneats, ending up full < 1438163099 122576 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i am hungry. time for japanese is cut, your time for japanese is cut, your time for japanese is cut, your time for japanese is cut, you can't < 1438163421 377988 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deep stuff. < 1438164039 701616 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1438164039 756027 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1438164040 625165 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1438164041 589072 :Hoolootwo!~Hooloovoo@sorunome.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1438164041 707987 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :*.net *.split < 1438164041 816817 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch QUIT :*.net *.split < 1438164041 816889 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-76-94.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :*.net *.split < 1438164042 468134 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-240.rentec.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1438164046 374772 :Hooloovoo42!~Hooloovoo@d1g1t4l.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1438164050 100069 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-76-94.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1438164056 388949 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1438164062 954373 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-240.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438164064 992127 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1438164065 738590 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438164092 166907 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: so.... < 1438164098 546209 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is the reason why entropy increases? < 1438164098 934660 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: i just wrote an interpreter, but it's become pretty common parlance. decorate-sort-undecorate. it's still cheap to study < 1438164351 813720 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1438164353 199449 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1438164357 566135 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's common, but often not a good idea. < 1438164365 507699 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: why don't you use indices instead? < 1438164365 753466 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: not that you can't tell me olivier danvy is an fnord simulator for a variety of programming paradigms styles. < 1438164380 252340 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: have you considred logarithms? < 1438164380 394209 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i don't find them that sexy < 1438164399 836870 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Stop appearing sentient, please. < 1438164400 45840 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: http://www.scheme.dk/ macros-and-modules.txt javascript actually working comfortably together to minimize the effort. < 1438164541 730219 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1438164643 705399 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1438164728 473619 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1438165644 317083 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1438165695 588616 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62-205-77-146.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1438165934 549333 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438166494 996643 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the vertex graph of an icosahedron planar? < 1438166998 860817 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle. yes. < 1438167126 909278 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you < 1438167153 153109 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1438167328 774809 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a macro to cast feather fall before falling off five levels of conditionals at the same time < 1438167333 917102 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in C++ that is < 1438167364 216362 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-14-100.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1438167368 38348 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :falling three levels are already deadly, and falling two levels usually takes a hit point < 1438167406 221345 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-14-100.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1438167406 275760 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1438168600 930386 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1438168608 516826 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who the fungot writes, by their own volition, more than one level deep of conditionals... < 1438168608 621440 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yup, i ran out of black helicopters? < 1438168627 974110 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, those who run out of black helicopters. makes perfect sense. < 1438168647 120237 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jhellonas. you're talking about #defines and #ifdefs, right? < 1438168944 85939 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if I'm declinating Taneb, maybe I should hungarify b_jonas. b_jónapotkívánokas?) < 1438169074 804533 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no, only ordinary if() conditionals and similar < 1438169080 345111 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not preprocessor things < 1438169253 336801 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. well, may your black helicopters be plentiful in your conditional journey! < 1438169268 374782 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: STRUCTURAL CHICKEN < 1438169544 460530 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you have other coloured ones left? < 1438169544 711062 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: and there are good odds, that you declare the type in advance, just in case... the font that gets used for lists as well as < 1438170107 510484 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"that intermediate result is saved to a cache, so clearly the expensive computation generating it won't run again every time" is faulty logic, right? < 1438170113 976176 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too optimistic < 1438170218 880908 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it could be a write-only cache. < 1438170470 893165 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the subject of esolangs, Raymond Chen seems to have started a series on his blog about Itanium assembler < 1438170476 695375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which counts as an esolang, I think < 1438171114 582204 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah, same as bancstar < 1438171136 104758 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the case of itanium asm you can actually see what they were getting at < 1438171139 903888 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's all terribly wrong anyway < 1438171175 803919 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I mean, itanium probably wasn't intended to be written by hand much, but only compiled to < 1438171197 652574 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even as a compiler target it's bizarre < 1438171200 427078 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that it's terribly wrong is irrelevant for being an esolang. < 1438171213 130078 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a ton of reasonable-looking things that you can't do < 1438171239 146598 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well sure, but then what actual hardware cpu designed for practical purposes isn't bizarre as a compiler target? < 1438171254 310537 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :itanium is just bizarre in a new way that compilers aren't used to. < 1438171314 265806 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the problem is more that I don't see how it can be efficient on the hardware end < 1438171342 126338 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't know about that, but probably sure < 1438171642 958078 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :itanium seems to be dying slowly anyway < 1438171739 358607 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this chart is so sad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Processor_families_in_TOP500_supercomputers.svg < 1438172602 670554 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a small uptick of SPARC at the right edge? < 1438172679 440509 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like it < 1438172735 918795 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just Moore's law for new fabs. < 1438173181 94279 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: link to that blog? < 1438173195 382539 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/ < 1438173292 725839 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1438174173 818471 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2015/06/29/10624284.aspx < 1438174174 495718 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm < 1438174182 491401 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you parse an unsigned long and then cast it to long? < 1438174212 13057 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unfortunately, this doesn't work if the input is 9223372036854775808, which is the value of 1 << 63, a value that is representable as a 64-bit unsigned value but not a 64-bit signed value. " < 1438174235 595164 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because whoever printed it out cast it first to unsigned? < 1438174273 547205 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it. < 1438174313 335593 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is, that the input 923... can't be parsed? < 1438174323 234224 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :So he recommends parsing it as an ulong < 1438174341 475877 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though in the end he casts it to a long < 1438174345 878928 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which can't hold the value he just parsed < 1438174392 452646 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ulong can hold the same values as a long, they are just mathematically interpreted differently < 1438174403 401514 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1438174414 256521 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so by casting the parsed 92... to a long you don't get 92... < 1438174447 268685 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume that MS C compilers are always -fwrapv < 1438174468 528043 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's like byte parseSomehow() have it legally parse 257 < 1438174471 343957 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but interpret it as -1 < 1438174497 854487 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1438174550 679773 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why you'd ever want to have it parse a value whose value is larger than you can actually accept. < 1438174585 194432 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you hate throwimng exceptions?! < 1438174598 897414 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then catch the exceptions? < 1438174602 641312 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nitpick: the value ranges for 'unsigned long' and 'long' aren't necessarily the same size. (But I'm not sure about the Little Program either, it seems a bit vague.) < 1438174641 284742 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1438174646 356792 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you can still get an exception probably by using a string with a number larger than UINT64_MAX < 1438174698 880035 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: right but Microsoft defines tham to be the same size < 1438174725 611077 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/0eex498h.aspx < 1438174751 4098 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: a) Little Programs are intentionally sloppy to get the points across faster; b) unless stated otherwise, everything on that blog assumes Windows < 1438174762 555372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Well, the program is C# anyway. < 1438174771 572832 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait waht < 1438174775 988769 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fuck < 1438174797 97443 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think maybe the idea is that the string you have might have interpreted some 64 bits as signed or unsigned, and you just want a 'long' that has those bits. < 1438174841 54933 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd be reasonable, yes. < 1438174859 236881 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc #include \ #include \ main() { errno = 0, strtoul("0x10000000000000000", 0, 0), printf("%d", errno); } < 1438174873 488194 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I'd prefer it to return an ulong instead. < 1438174916 650314 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1438174928 549519 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would prefer bits64 or something :D < 1438174928 695209 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438174935 746858 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but those data types usually don't exist. < 1438174935 995205 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C# looks so much like a microsoft-finagled c++ < 1438174969 516333 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo Some output. < 1438174971 422388 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some output. < 1438174977 480239 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo No output. < 1438174977 835792 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I guess that's that it is < 1438174978 194677 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1438175075 191865 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1438175129 222350 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int64_t is too long a name < 1438175143 957520 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define i8 int64_t < 1438175150 8693 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define u8 uint64_t < 1438175167 961869 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define u1 uint8_t < 1438175178 718243 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It used to be too long long, but now it's just too long. < 1438175217 616036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1438175221 825244 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote int64_t is too long a name It used to be too long long, but now it's just too long. < 1438175227 603877 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1250) int64_t is too long a name It used to be too long long, but now it's just too long. < 1438175236 505708 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "normal" convention is i32, u32 and so on. < 1438175245 650453 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, i64 in this case < 1438175274 185849 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right but here I'm going by the sizeof it < 1438175289 926663 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define f8 double < 1438175297 459570 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define f4 float < 1438175308 785289 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define f10 long double < 1438175315 596731 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define f12 triple < 1438175319 675573 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's normally not the sizeof of long double. < 1438175320 206325 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define float (fix your code) < 1438175333 15272 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1438175364 428380 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get 12 or 16 out of GCC, but not 10. < 1438175393 139341 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1438175402 641144 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define f20 pentuple < 1438175416 161596 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc main(){ printf("%zu", sizeof(long double)); } < 1438175434 226154 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the olny sane way to use long double is in a register variable... < 1438175434 864974 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What what? GCC has -m96bit-long-double and -m128bit-long-double flags, the default is different on x86-32 vs. x86-64. There's no -m80bit-long-double. < 1438175440 673682 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16 < 1438175509 164605 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't a long double be a quad < 1438175538 741685 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only in the frag shader. < 1438175544 208855 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on archictecture < 1438175630 879588 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on x86 float operations use an intermediate 80-bit representation, which maps to register long double variables < 1438175652 342887 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86-32, that is. < 1438175656 221434 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1438175705 398006 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my computer has the last of that line < 1438175882 344504 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: mind you that you should use int64_fast_t anyway < 1438175885 772916 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or int64_least_t < 1438175959 596300 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you need a fixed width for memory purposes or whatever < 1438175996 818130 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*int_fast64_t < 1438176028 776088 :staffehn_!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438176119 168310 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1438176135 779219 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :int64_t reads/writes aren't guaranteed to be atomic, right? < 1438176148 407035 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPUs should just trap on signed overflow, then this problem would go away. < 1438176157 176174 :staffehn!~quassel@staffehn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438176159 976769 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :sig_atomic_t read/writes on the other hand are guaranteed to be atomic < 1438176200 24038 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: It needs to be a volatile sig_atomic_t, I think. < 1438176244 12256 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(C11 has the _Atomic qualifier, but it's not required, and no particular types are required to be supported with it, if any are.) < 1438176246 229636 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's funny how much of these things don't matter usually unless you're an embedded sytems developper < 1438176293 349656 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you usually don't have stdlibc there anyway :) < 1438176323 988292 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no standard compliant C compiler < 1438176336 820761 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the C world is fucked up < 1438176423 975086 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. Confirmed, I have a 'Yonah' intal processor, the last 32-bit core < 1438176436 290468 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what does _Atomic guarantee? < 1438176437 951866 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :read/write < 1438176446 282956 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even operations such as += to be atomic? < 1438176460 645928 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most C code isn't standard, regardless of platform. (Wiedijk has argued that, depending on how you read the standard, there might not exist a fully standard program.) < 1438176557 743377 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: There's a set of operations on them in . The kind of ones you'd expect -- store, load, exchange, compare_exchange, fetch-and-modify with add/sub/or/xor/and. < 1438176576 330491 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438176577 406468 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah so it doesn't work for structs? < 1438176579 887333 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well maybe the standard should be descriptive rather than prescriptive < 1438176660 308483 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Actually, I think it works for structs. But the fetch-and-modify ones are only applicable to atomic integer types. < 1438176664 688711 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like uhm _Atomic struct point_t myAtomicPoint; < 1438176675 942958 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :myAtomicPoint.foo += i; < 1438176682 726008 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would be atomic in this case < 1438176688 689199 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not like that, no. < 1438176703 64251 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the qualifier guarantees anything when you're not using the atomic operations. < 1438176717 946239 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they're not guaranteed to be lock-free -- you can ask whether an atomic object is, though. < 1438176733 48462 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figured < 1438176740 856493 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all platforms support atomic operations anyway < 1438176765 805039 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is tricky for portability reasons < 1438176791 776624 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :on some microcontrollers you have no other choice than to < 1438176804 339027 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :DISABLE_INTERRUPTS; /* do things */ ENABLE_INTERRUPTS; < 1438176978 429261 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you can find a C11 compiler for a microcontroller in any case. < 1438177356 464462 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah... < 1438177364 109205 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are usually vendor C compilers < 1438177404 629796 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1438177416 88809 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzhie < 1438177421 64819 :staffehn!~quassel@staffehn.com QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1438177421 119195 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438177421 302892 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1438177421 357130 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1438177495 964071 :vifino!vifino@tty.sh QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438177582 572247 :staffehn!~quassel@staffehn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438178299 236522 :vifino!vifino@tty.sh JOIN :#esoteric < 1438178570 922023 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438178756 118378 :kline!~kline@unaffiliated/kline QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438178761 506044 :staffehn!~quassel@staffehn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1438178781 365050 :ethiraric!~ethiraric@93.ip-5-196-226.eu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1438178856 602052 :staffehn!~quassel@staffehn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438178878 709864 :ethiraric!~ethiraric@93.ip-5-196-226.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1438179023 250949 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Read error: Connection reset 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539683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally i understand spanish names http://www.mezzacotta.net/pomh/?comic=27 < 1438185802 437252 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1438186402 596307 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tfhcxcjzthxmqvbc QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1438186404 209075 :ocharles__!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rvlbklcwryuebmrj QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438186617 276286 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438186659 592792 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438186712 344067 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hai < 1438186731 346116 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1438186731 550972 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1438186837 88908 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1438186858 462050 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i didn't realize anyone actually used Krita < 1438186920 989917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW YOU KNOW < 1438187039 909076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :spot of the oerjan, governor? < 1438187086 983002 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438187107 24549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1438187140 893154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1438187284 4042 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I am doing a talk on lens in about two hours < 1438187296 513414 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what style < 1438187307 299326 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there slides? < 1438187324 874353 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf-style-esque slides < 1438187337 383084 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That are still being written < 1438187341 297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are the slides on the internet somewhere < 1438187341 620772 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1438187655 792066 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"slides" aaargh. < 1438187680 647550 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1438187706 517741 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing, I'm just going to give 3 talks on Sunday, that will be ... interesting. < 1438187713 975912 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaah good luck < 1438187716 996361 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sort of subject? < 1438187763 857603 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :abstract rewriting, term rewriting. somewhere in the overlapping area of math and computer science. < 1438187787 619700 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: good luck < 1438187790 755268 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, I'm working on slides. < 1438187801 862581 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk, thanks < 1438187826 529263 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got slides describing up to "Iso", now working on Prisms < 1438187859 284297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, you're talking about profunctors? < 1438187865 482691 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, not in great detail < 1438187935 952525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk: Did you see the discussion yesterday about void? < 1438187940 180866 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1438187948 657239 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :what new noise machine got started < 1438187962 465170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The question was whether there's anything stopping void from reexporting Void from base. < 1438187970 398402 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't much of a discussion, really. < 1438188187 428311 :ocharles__!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-viyvnmblnaywpszs JOIN :#esoteric < 1438188221 684781 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bbuntwavemallgrd JOIN :#esoteric < 1438188253 891745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk: well it started with a SO question about why absurd undefined looped infinitely (which it can in some versions and circumstances) < 1438188274 285937 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shouldn't loop any more < 1438188282 102864 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :we always force the thunk we're given now < 1438188296 712741 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh, wait, doesn't Void do that yet? < 1438188308 169488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk: no, because seq doesn't enforce ordering < 1438188328 311150 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :on ghc >= 7.9 it re-exports < 1438188332 834732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, it does. < 1438188338 550372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone said it doesn't. < 1438188343 164874 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1438188343 623499 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um me < 1438188344 844373 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk++ for fixing it retroactively. < 1438188351 418832 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i misread... < 1438188359 185855 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/ekmett/void/blob/master/void.cabal confirms it hth < 1438188367 563215 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: have you observed the spin you worry about? < 1438188378 907114 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could use pseq but that has complications < 1438188387 282098 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk, that seems a very arbitrary upper bound on base < 1438188393 730928 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438188421 235830 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it inherited it from bytestring i think < 1438188476 484802 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1438188481 222718 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bytestring has base < 5 < 1438188482 614210 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :using pseq means it needs parallel, which means you lose it in base < 1438188490 767436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk: oh i was looking at the module source, not the cabal file < 1438188520 968203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the module has no indication of the reexport < 1438188531 570630 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1438188535 343827 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: back in the stoneage IIRC one of the fairly standard dons packages used to use base < 10 < 1438188537 823531 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget which it was < 1438188552 404831 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it has no way to =) < 1438188566 556555 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :the indication is it is in an old-src dir < 1438188568 305540 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk: Sounds like pseq should be in base. < 1438188574 938927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not really a parallel thing. < 1438188593 406119 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk, right, I guess < 1438188604 269821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: int-e: good luck < 1438188606 829953 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel free to chase after creating an issue and even using this to motivate it if you like < 1438188652 890675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, that sounds fun and productive. < 1438188846 89056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1438188864 519602 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :let it be known that dropping a pint glass on your toe is extremely painful even from one foot up < 1438189348 7951 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1438189946 380507 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's because glass is a dense material < 1438190006 485046 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might be able to make a better kind of HSTS specification. The same header format is used for compatibility, but many of meanings are different. < 1438190119 291973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that the opposite of compatibility? < 1438190709 60190 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :From the server's perspective it is the same < 1438191003 39247 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume your version will allow the user to override everything? < 1438191040 204609 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1438191164 597238 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is one thing it does < 1438191205 677601 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there are several other things too < 1438191218 84715 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438191466 562537 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.120.17 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1438191554 668087 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.112.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438191638 169673 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:789b:7eeb:dc:2cb7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438191668 37450 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In contexts where an absolute URL may be entered without the scheme (which results in not even a valid absolute URL), the automatic redirect to HTTPS still applies. For example in many browsers if you enter something that looks like a domain name into the location bar it will automatically add "http://" in front; it will put "https://" in front instead if HSTS is enabled. The user can still delete this though. < 1438191681 194038 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it does not apply if the user explicitly enters "http://". < 1438191818 242816 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other things might or might not automatically change depending on user configuration, but even if most features are disabled, it still causes cookies, whitelists, etc associated with the site to store the certificate as well, and if it does not match the cookies aren't sent (the user can still manually edit the cookies to specify the new certificate if wanted). < 1438192165 238433 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438192186 525838 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that mean that a website by default loses access to cookies when it updates its certificate? < 1438192984 678365 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438193062 276015 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1438193653 772732 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:789b:7eeb:dc:2cb7 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438194690 837107 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91-rdmsoft [XULRunner 32.0.3/20140923175406] < 1438194939 578816 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1438194974 589557 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438195014 765985 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1438195413 256588 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1438195444 438302 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@dsl-trebrasgw1-50dff2-22.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1438195587 678197 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438195884 673683 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438196439 328068 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: is it compatible both ways? < 1438196454 623953 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: as in, between old servers and new clients, or between odl clients and new servers < 1438196559 328101 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1438198886 88871 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438198886 275534 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 QUIT :Changing host < 1438198886 329873 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438198893 191959 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, the cookie would apply to all the same certificates that the HSTS appplies to. < 1438198962 255801 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if only one certificate is pinned, then yes it will lose the cookies by default. < 1438199007 292404 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes, both ways. Although if a server wants to enable *only* the new way and not the old way for client features, it can call the header "X-Strict-Transport-Security". < 1438199173 592746 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :HSTS supercookies also no longer work in this new way. < 1438199238 549424 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, http://runciman.hacksoc.org/~taneb/LT.pdf < 1438199294 579635 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1438199316 289325 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So this cookie disabling can also depend on whether HPKP is used together with HSTS or not, as well as the lifetime of various certificates, and so on. < 1438199665 472687 :GoToTell!~GotoTell@62.205.112.33 QUIT :Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it < 1438199666 332378 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own kind of HSTS would also automatically enable secure-only on all cookies for that server as well as prevent cookies set over an insecure connection from affecting the secure connection by default (although they can still be resent over an insecure connection if the user has not disabled cookies for that domain over insecure connections). < 1438199944 230197 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deleting cookies by default when the certificate is change can also help so that they are not sent if the domain is purchased by a new company. Such certificate pinning can be used also in script whitelists and so on as well. < 1438200071 262297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: where's "shachaf saves the day" twh < 1438200229 182938 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I was about to say that HSTS and HPKP are entirely (well, FSVO) separate. < 1438200243 541440 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438200359 441214 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438200370 808358 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1438200370 862727 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also depends on what ciphers are used and so on. So, if it is connect with HSTS and HPKP with TLS v2, and then later on it is TLS v1, you will get a warning message (which can still be overridden by the user though; if they do the cookies are gone though unless the user manually edits the cookies). < 1438200385 945742 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438200391 437375 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438200547 136368 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438200592 155294 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So not only cookies are affected, but also whitelists and HTTP authentication methods. < 1438200876 62739 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so will you document this somewhere, and make a reference implementation in a http[s] client library? < 1438200892 352337 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you want real security, you should use neither HTTP nor HTTPS anyways; the mess they make can cause other problems with security. < 1438201113 649533 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I should document it, although I might not necessarily implement it. Anyways the implementation can differ depending on some things; for example the client might not be a web-browser. < 1438201151 531234 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, that's why I said "reference implementation". I don't expect you to implement it in all https-capable clients ever. < 1438201166 65015 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: eg. you could try to implement it in libcurl (if cookie jar is enabled or something like that) < 1438201215 434751 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in whatever library you prefer < 1438201221 436620 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's ton of https client libraries < 1438201746 385867 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellu < 1438202285 90339 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438202488 219804 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438202488 274296 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 QUIT :Changing host < 1438202488 274351 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438202697 241949 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to write a complete Funge-98 interpreter < 1438202699 627925 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what to call it? < 1438202767 44495 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh < 1438202778 246942 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe even a complete Funge-9* Intepreter < 1438203546 588835 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438204504 222977 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1438205063 660697 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438205083 917904 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1438205561 670923 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07LOLCODE14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43640&oldid=43600 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+360) 10Criticism section < 1438206431 259645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1438207313 387949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Is the vertex graph of an icosahedron planar? <-- specifically, it's essentially a graph on a sphere and those are planar < 1438207331 695565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb Is the vertex graph of an icosahedron planar? <-- specifically, it's essentially a graph on a sphere and those are planar < 1438207331 749916 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1438208275 665012 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :All regular polyhedra have planar graphs < 1438208351 264930 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think something torus-like won't have a planar vertex graph < 1438208561 611170 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07LOLCODE14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43641&oldid=43640 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+917) 10Added example code to criticism section < 1438208622 541058 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07LOLCODE14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43642&oldid=43641 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (-21) 10Fixed output < 1438208703 827207 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Weirdlang looks a lot like a category < 1438208745 721483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saying "X is technically a Y" when Y is a term that you've invented is a little fishy. < 1438208823 885812 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438209016 777167 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1438209026 102504 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is quite fishy < 1438209055 964629 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, Weirdlang is a term I invented to correspond to a concept I'm pretty sure all of us already acknowledged < 1438209115 562627 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Weirdlang14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43643&oldid=43610 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+7) 10Removed made up terms :P < 1438209358 980769 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esoteric algorithm14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43644 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+368) 10Created page < 1438209458 400000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think something torus-like won't have a planar vertex graph <-- well the four-color theorem doesn't apply to a torus, so... < 1438209543 582513 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I do a sublist again? < 1438209577 62663 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :add more bullets < 1438209582 222558 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1438209655 91518 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's 7 colours for a torus < 1438209673 631309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i thought < 1438209742 882407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm a more obvious proof is that you can easily put K_3,3 on the torus < 1438209783 362282 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Dropsort14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43645 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+645) 10Created page < 1438209802 656556 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :More bullets didn't work < 1438209804 214946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :put 3 vertices on the outside edge, 3 on the inside edge, connect each to 2 over the top and 1 under the bottom, e.g. < 1438209810 150433 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just going to use indents < 1438209825 518893 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: um what exactly are you doing < 1438209841 532445 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* * * Triple indented item < 1438209869 951846 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1438209871 579649 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1438209876 714612 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Dropsort14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43646&oldid=43645 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-3) 10/* Algorithmic Description */ thus < 1438209887 589272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cannot use spaces, apparently < 1438209953 136038 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1438210087 329012 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Langar.io14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43647 5* 03InputUsername 5* (+5465) 10Created Langar.io, a language inspired by Agar.io (I'm so sorry for this) < 1438210136 877108 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43648&oldid=43594 5* 03InputUsername 5* (+16) 10Added Langar.io to the language list < 1438210188 670030 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Langar.io14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43649&oldid=43647 5* 03InputUsername 5* (+10) 10Fixed category < 1438210337 956398 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:InputUsername14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43650&oldid=43558 5* 03InputUsername 5* (+120) 10Added Langar.io to my user page < 1438210463 930168 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Weirdlang14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43651&oldid=43643 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+330) 10Not Evil Section. < 1438210553 628276 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:InputUsername14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43652 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+355) 10IRC invite < 1438210696 571455 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Langar.io14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43653&oldid=43649 5* 03InputUsername 5* (+10) 10Fixed external resource < 1438210849 894055 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Langar.io14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43654 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+41) 10Sorry for putting this here, but I doubt he was going to check it otherwise < 1438211246 634182 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438211279 757761 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1438211323 514563 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You new? < 1438211332 749569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looj hppavilion[1] < 1438211347 9948 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1438211351 422483 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looj? < 1438211357 608719 :InputUsername!54522415@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.82.36.21 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438211365 49420 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There you are! < 1438211369 924342 :InputUsername!54522415@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.82.36.21 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey. < 1438211387 792524 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellu < 1438211432 377225 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the IRC! < 1438211507 591550 :InputUsername!54522415@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.82.36.21 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1438211948 817588 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFK < 1438212064 391275 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1438212182 183842 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1438212451 608882 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1438212620 118804 :a21!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438213354 613574 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackaday.com/2013/01/29/genetic-algorithms-become-programmers-themselves/ < 1438213986 299571 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438213988 113865 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1438213988 638604 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 292300Z 20008KT 15SM FEW035TCU FEW150 30/23 A2982 RMK TCU1AC1 TCU TR AC TR SLP098 DENSITY ALT 2000FT < 1438214016 858099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boihelly < 1438214051 505199 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon... sœr... ja........... < 1438214057 352119 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sweats < 1438214062 534857 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... n < 1438214107 458652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1438214107 835464 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 292320Z 36004KT 9999 BKN021 13/10 Q1003 RMK WIND 670FT 28008KT < 1438214121 6512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles ominously < 1438214133 118198 :InputUsername!54522415@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.82.36.21 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is happening < 1438214134 150083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1438214134 735619 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 292253Z 30014KT 10SM CLR 24/15 A2989 RMK AO2 SLP122 T02390150 < 1438214147 756034 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KSJC < 1438214148 320303 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KSJC 292253Z 30012KT 10SM CLR 31/12 A2987 RMK AO2 SLP114 T03060122 < 1438214154 743258 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow and double scow < 1438214156 954957 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :InputUsellorname! < 1438214167 576156 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :31/12! woaaahhh... < 1438214168 67158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :InputUsername: the other people are dying of heat while i'm just cooling it < 1438214187 356289 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is the coolest < 1438214190 177604 :InputUsername!54522415@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.82.36.21 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see lol. < 1438214322 655120 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1438214337 748653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :31/12 sounds dry < 1438214745 541207 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1438214983 314617 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGPH < 1438214983 789292 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGPH 292350Z VRB02KT 9999 BKN025 BKN049 11/10 Q1015 < 1438214991 679304 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are airport codes right < 1438215043 248086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1438215078 724410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see edinburgh named its airport after you < 1438215133 281628 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a person from edinburgh a edinburgher? < 1438215169 670957 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably, idk < 1438215194 585596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were until hamburg got a global treaty forbidding it hth < 1438215515 19183 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGPH? < 1438215538 71365 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phellontom_Helloover. you moved? < 1438215826 281410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly he was aiming for a sunny holiday with his family but missed horribly < 1438216207 835940 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, just stumbled on an englishless wikipédia article: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/J-core < 1438216391 305593 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wha? i've always been egph haven't i < 1438216447 377772 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :along with KSFO and KHAF it's the only ICAO i know < 1438216517 10572 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. mislocated you. sorry, my bad hth < 1438216713 306634 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Xlib documentation does not seem to explain very well how to make a picture < 1438216884 68606 :a21!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1 < 1438217083 591542 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1438217544 792065 :InputUsername!54522415@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.82.36.21 QUIT :Quit: It's 3 AM < 1438217583 317514 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell InputUsername pfeuh. not a valid reason. we're waiting for you to come back. < 1438217583 696368 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1438217675 497256 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Langar.io14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43655&oldid=43653 5* 03InputUsername 5* (+12) 10Fixed GitHub link < 1438217824 107874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 AM and the night is still young < 1438218187 676582 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438218219 862606 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438218224 378841 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1438218224 378918 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1438218241 821571 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helleu helleu helleu ♪ < 1438218756 574452 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck Sharp14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43656 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+1691) 10Created Page, utterly incomplete, more to come. < 1438218789 689442 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438218791 957625 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1438218800 316335 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloppavilion[1]! < 1438219018 166160 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm writing BF# < 1438219028 503638 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because surprisingly, no one else has yet < 1438219389 296211 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bbuntwavemallgrd QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1438219924 272703 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PARBOILED CHICKEN < 1438219972 468312 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck Sharp14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43657&oldid=43656 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+787) 10Added more commands (Still WIP) < 1438220750 204045 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438220831 691247 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438222689 85720 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438224021 390565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell edwardk i saw this post https://mail.haskell.org/pipermail/libraries/2015-July/026061.html i feel like you are pointing out the real elephant in the room for getting _any_ nontrivial (i.e. not just syntactic sugar) GHC extension standardized by this point... < 1438224021 501608 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1438224632 147484 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438224653 703545 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smells like lemons < 1438224805 722509 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I know more or less how to find a ratio of integers that most closely approximates an irrational ratio. < 1438224825 641083 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I wanna know: how do you find a ratio of integers that most closely approximates an irrational ratio of *three* numbers? < 1438224833 809061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1438224852 308139 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, for example, the ratio 2:3:5 is a pretty good approximation to the ratio 2.1:3.1:5.1. < 1438224862 473852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I GOT NOTHING < 1438224875 496015 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :100:314:272 is a good approximation to 1:pi:e. Get what I'm saying? < 1438224886 579398 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, fine. < 1438224903 669672 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438224909 14656 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given three positive numbers a, b, c, I want to multiply them all by some constant k, such that ka, kb, and kc are all close to integers. < 1438224912 417402 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I also want k to be small. < 1438224936 191870 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I find the best values of k? < 1438224985 406625 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yet another statement... < 1438225030 629376 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know of a line in 3-dimensional space which passes through the origin. How do I find lattice points which are close to the line, but also close to the origin? < 1438225112 564207 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've confused me < 1438225202 554558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure that's a line < 1438225236 665050 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The line traced by (ka, kb, kc) as k varies? That's a line. < 1438225249 782427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1438225274 95739 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: define a fitness metric and then do an optimization problem on it? < 1438225283 442444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you also want k to be integer < 1438225292 289445 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :k doesn't need to be an integer. < 1438225311 825177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1438225317 794377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine < 1438225326 138805 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess given a candidate lattice point, the error can be represented as a vector. It's just the displacement between the lattice point and the closest point on the line. < 1438225390 96358 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1438225391 619434 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The space of all possible error vectors is 2-dimensional. < 1438225482 717604 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you have a bunch of candidate lattice points, you know all their error vectors. If you have two error vectors of approximately the same length pointing in approximately opposite directions, you can add the lattice points together, and the error vector will just be the sum of the error vectors. < 1438226038 151795 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the algorithm to figure out the smallest way to encode a picture in Sixel format? < 1438226622 246774 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1438226630 402137 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438226756 438646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgone < 1438226782 405547 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good one < 1438226807 429055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's, alas, derivative < 1438226816 222979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :of what < 1438226826 559152 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungone < 1438226852 869363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1438226853 228968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you stay right where you are, ok? < 1438226853 667277 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but it will suck, it's inevitable. :p like i heard last night there was someone asking about currying in scheme < 1438226886 376244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: well you can move about a bit, just not run off < 1438226886 632585 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: specifically page 6 of that pdf. funny as hell. i totally misread that homepage. < 1438226902 400030 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: link plz < 1438226902 657068 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it is a difference if you provide something that's as powerful as c, so essentially, the same way < 1438226970 705690 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot seems unusually lucid today < 1438226971 34603 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it is memoized, and then pointers. it'd need to be able to tweak every bit of performance out if i get out < 1438227076 5799 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1438227118 259145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1438227129 393469 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1438227147 668496 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1438227178 821318 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1438227579 212645 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha, I have discovered the ULTIMATE MICROTUNING. < 1438227583 964165 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :848 equal temperament. < 1438227780 68317 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :An octave is exactly 848 steps. A perfect fifth is 496.048 steps, and a major third is 272.995 steps. < 1438227799 422035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happened to cents? < 1438227804 182525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1200 cents per octave. < 1438227810 817957 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are better. Let me demonstrate. < 1438227853 880834 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :A perfect fifth is 701.955 cents, and a major third is 386.314 cents. < 1438227857 576129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` factor 848 < 1438227857 942225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :848: 2 2 2 2 53 < 1438227883 988588 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So cents do a poor job of representing intervals as almost-integers. < 1438227935 172346 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you round everything to the nearest integer, then one major third is 386 cents, whereas two major thirds is 773 cents. How horrible! < 1438227947 679947 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's what you were asking about ratios for. < 1438227964 220077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But why stop at fifths and thirds? < 1438227994 432812 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because my ears are 5-limit. < 1438228022 81247 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1438228033 48148 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :With 848 equal temperament, you'd have to stick eleven perfect fifths on top of each other in order to find something for which rounding error is significant. < 1438228072 310143 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1438228409 435745 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes? < 1438228420 954006 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's all < 1438228465 94129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ktla.com/2015/07/29/after-20-years-naugles-is-back-in-southern-california/ < 1438228470 602061 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naugles is making a comeback. < 1438228482 370070 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're in the area, please report. twh < 1438228687 479901 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-urfvdsnwrhicltkn NICK :notfowl < 1438228903 32244 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1438228903 86464 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1438231536 622732 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438232306 87090 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-170-31-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438232727 90042 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438232822 245806 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1438232882 87277 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-170-31-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438234180 164055 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1438234678 156370 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-170-31-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438234841 187835 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://causecatyljan.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/image.jpg < 1438234856 50743 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :old posters < 1438234863 26693 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Fuck me < 1438237512 962732 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you draw a picture with Xlib? What I tried doesn't work; the screen is blank < 1438239002 110572 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I got a segmentation fault < 1438239048 800339 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, it is work now < 1438239603 685347 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438239833 665369 :hppavilion[42]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438239842 743521 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1438239898 163989 :hppavilion[42]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, zzo38~!@#$%^&*() < 1438240080 375595 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1438240764 881978 :hppavilion[42]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1438241173 12068 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I managed to make a PNG displaying program with Xlib, although it might not be as portable as it should be < 1438241179 263823 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is much faster than ImageMagick though. < 1438242041 538828 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1438242726 580652 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about sxiv? < 1438242786 919799 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one I don't know. < 1438242842 453356 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1438242863 108010 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-170-31-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438242909 69789 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked it up with "aptitude show" command. Then use Imlib2, it seem like < 1438242944 89423 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-170-31-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438242957 595626 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own program is using LodePNG to load the picture, and then I have to change the pixels from RGB to BGR order in order to display it correctly on X (I don't know how portable this is though). < 1438243346 64203 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ulam(1) = 1 ulam(2) = 2 ulam(n) = minimum number > ulam(n-1) that can be expressed as the sum of two distinct ulam numbers in exactly one way < 1438243359 34599 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you find an algorithm to print the first n ulam numbers in O(n) ? < 1438243488 136974 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best i have is O(n^2) < 1438243924 243349 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oeis doesn't look that way < 1438244715 261081 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1438244855 601530 :Test!5f805be6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.128.91.230 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438244878 623182 :Test!5f805be6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.128.91.230 NICK :Guest77803 < 1438244912 192056 :Guest77803!5f805be6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.128.91.230 PART :#esoteric < 1438245410 833728 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of another way to represent a list of natural numbers as a single natural number < 1438245748 755301 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: is your method based on a recursive invocation of pair primitives or not? < 1438245901 552004 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not < 1438245941 651797 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My method is bijective though < 1438246193 542667 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1438246987 1223 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1438247088 433056 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1438247513 148204 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438248505 994006 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody in kentucky shot down a drone. < 1438248509 798818 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neat. < 1438248654 565027 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although somewhat dangerous. < 1438249031 692865 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438249034 683406 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So < 1438249102 652127 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: http://www.loweringthebar.net/2015/07/trespassing-drone.html too. < 1438249121 665172 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ In a one-sentence order, the local small-claims court held that the man "acted unreasonably" when he directed his son to blow the drone out of the sky with a 12-gauge (which his son promptly did). ]] < 1438249383 612334 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1438249490 61877 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I can see that it is trespassing of some sort < 1438249496 766673 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can't really do anything about it. < 1438249507 156425 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because shooting it with a gun is really unreasonable < 1438249528 373919 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it is not very likely but bullets falling down can cause damage < 1438249547 916098 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you shoot it more elliptically then that likelihood increases a lot. < 1438249590 824150 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I mean... it's up to x-feet that belongs to your "privacy zone" < 1438249602 364087 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :drones could just fly higher and have cameras with good optical zoom < 1438249652 412356 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most reasonable thing would be to ban flying drones with cameras and/or microphones < 1438249665 475531 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :without an explicit permit < 1438249684 150676 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and put a huge fine on offenders < 1438249697 794487 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's going to be hard to track them :D < 1438249963 444379 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps we should broadcast no-trespassing signs from WiFi access points. < 1438249979 882190 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that would do what? < 1438250148 834695 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :About as much as a camera drone ban, I suppose. < 1438250163 699281 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite < 1438250181 223673 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you ban them you have legal "pressure" < 1438250206 104246 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because a law is hard to enforce isn't a reason not to have it < 1438251178 790999 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just apply the same rules as for manned aircraft -- restriction to airways and ATC instructions. < 1438252051 228157 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/37438/generate-ulam-numbers i found this and the perl solution is much more readable than most of the others < 1438252134 486526 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1438252299 616115 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438252582 152093 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Reason for rollback: rolling back rollback." < 1438252812 620610 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438252952 195346 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03SwaggerMan 5* 10New user account < 1438253679 85336 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:SwaggerMan14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43658 5* 03SwaggerMan 5* (+309) 10Created page with "'''Hi! im working on an [[Esoteric programming language|esoteric programming language]] called ''Pythagoras+''! which is a brainfuck-based language!''' {| class="wikitable" |-..." < 1438253756 812783 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEghost. < 1438253784 928609 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:SwaggerMan14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43659&oldid=43658 5* 03SwaggerMan 5* (+67) 10 < 1438253833 844255 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1438254012 816660 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAURGH! < 1438254044 572000 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want the old original ugly design! my bank site has no right being all web2.0y! < 1438254064 381039 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm lost. I want disgusting, horrendous and FUNCTIONAL design. < 1438254221 582590 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:SwaggerMan14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43660&oldid=43659 5* 03SwaggerMan 5* (+6050) 10 < 1438254234 151619 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey boily < 1438254241 844776 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :1990 CALLED! < 1438254252 908105 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEY WANT YOU BACK. < 1438254299 979036 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:SwaggerMan14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43661&oldid=43660 5* 03SwaggerMan 5* (+26) 10 < 1438254420 94425 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:SwaggerMan14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43662&oldid=43661 5* 03SwaggerMan 5* (+1) 10/* Pythagoras+ */ < 1438254688 175970 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck based :/ < 1438254689 374924 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:SwaggerMan14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43663&oldid=43662 5* 03SwaggerMan 5* (+42) 10/* Hello, World! in Pythagoras+ */ < 1438254732 120395 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:SwaggerMan14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43664&oldid=43663 5* 03SwaggerMan 5* (+17) 10/* Pythagoras+ */ < 1438254770 883583 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such a useless language < 1438254804 704402 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:SwaggerMan14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43665&oldid=43664 5* 03SwaggerMan 5* (+1) 10 < 1438254873 219419 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1438254874 994421 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1438254904 98875 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "working on" means "i'll whip it up in 15 minutes" < 1438254907 858219 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if even 15 minutes < 1438255009 790621 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrelloman. the 90s had at least one redeeming point: computers had TURBO buttons on them! < 1438255104 299017 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc11-sgyl31-2-0-cust296.sgyl.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438255124 232002 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc11-sgyl31-2-0-cust296.sgyl.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1438255124 286551 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1438255221 804584 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This century has no need for encabulated computers. < 1438255347 851917 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1438255353 790568 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've always wondered what the TURBO button did < 1438255389 450617 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. ok < 1438255394 646364 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for games that rely on cycle times < 1438255428 692405 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc it slows the cpu down < 1438255467 715189 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the future, perhaps 144Hz monitors will have turbo buttons on them. < 1438255847 564729 :Froox!~Frooxius@c-73-170-31-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438255887 637702 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: COMPACT CHICKEN < 1438256039 92774 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-170-31-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438256245 364542 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My 386sx/16 had a software-based TURBO switch. < 1438256265 11372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a .com file you ran which twiddled some nonstandard I/O ports to switch between 8 MHz and 16 MHz modes. < 1438256282 793672 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost like cpufreq stuff these days. < 1438256435 462783 :__256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438256457 221710 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer the opposite effect to TURBO, Turbo Boost. < 1438256480 735491 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it wasn't any garden-variety 386, it was a "Hyundai Super-386SE". < 1438256539 346790 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had a hard disk so large (40 MB!), I had to split it to two partitions. < 1438256809 692597 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just interleave the .com file with nop instructions < 1438256816 485077 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly < 1438256824 872806 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you adjust for jumps accordingly < 1438256842 908849 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1438257063 990031 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Client Quit < 1438257586 557322 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-nehuzwddhcnridbk QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1438257865 17143 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438258083 231170 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-spnrhctjvajrlgzi JOIN :#esoteric < 1438260280 554737 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1438263182 242439 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438263226 863387 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438264461 756898 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438264486 500042 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438264486 554291 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1438264486 554340 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1438265629 914899 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1438266258 375763 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:3dc1:8baf:4500:5251 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438266582 412361 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1438268037 487639 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:InputUsername14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43666&oldid=43650 5* 03InputUsername 5* (-20) 10Updated user page < 1438268072 713399 :InputUsername!54522415@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.82.36.21 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438269061 287489 :nelly!~canaima@190.204.160.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438269121 78430 :nelly!~canaima@190.204.160.10 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438269606 636377 :InputUsername!54522415@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.82.36.21 QUIT :Quit: Quit: Quit < 1438269710 529214 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1438269854 6112 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438269870 608089 :Froox!~Frooxius@c-73-170-31-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1438270162 254497 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438270705 320874 :InputUsername!~InputUser@ip54522415.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1438271203 339245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1438271322 803040 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: how did your lens talk go twh < 1438271333 360934 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Decently I think < 1438271344 30197 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than misspelling Laarhoven < 1438271448 751193 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :twen won't be happy when to hear that < 1438271463 874179 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats shachaf -----### < 1438271522 841420 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :swat of the oerjan, governor? < 1438271538 908840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd switch out a vowel but it doesn't matter in hebrew anyway < 1438271550 940924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, what's the reference < 1438271594 112261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fail at googling it again < 1438271610 104723 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13786158/shachaf.png is gone :'( < 1438271647 820329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your disguise has been destroyed! < 1438271709 888028 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry, i can still find it on stackoverflow < 1438271755 501713 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dfolbckztohprcia QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438271756 105303 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-odqueskwbmalkziq QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438271826 827287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Find what? < 1438271839 373324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the picture i'm assuming was on that link < 1438271857 782201 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where? < 1438271880 816800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/users/712548/shachaf < 1438271884 27815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That link was the self-portrait monqy drew of me. < 1438271891 919078 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :With Bonzi Buddy. < 1438271896 526968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1438271903 197885 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You never saw that? < 1438271913 6012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm if so i've forgotten < 1438271928 168190 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was really good. < 1438271949 40711 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whether mnoqy still has a copy I could get hold of somehow. < 1438272138 835866 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I was writing slides offline and misremembered Twan's surname as Leerhoven < 1438272155 588515 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'd like to retroactively intercept that swat < 1438272257 790108 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats Taneb radioactively -----### < 1438272294 119347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a Tanoob < 1438272470 451545 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i believe the swat was for the joke and not for the mistake < 1438272522 444798 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://mail.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell/2015-July/024642.html tdnh < 1438272549 348467 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc there is a racetrack or something called Haskell < 1438272550 69115 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that email is about http://bigstory.ap.org/article/fc3188c26a544a0ab7a5da7e6b4d477a/american-pharoah-race-monmouth-park-haskell < 1438272558 549403 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as a university and a rugby player < 1438272605 878859 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yxhqaaigtvdqqzeh JOIN :#esoteric < 1438272684 38752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1438272684 369749 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 301553Z 30006KT 10SM OVC009 18/14 A3005 RMK AO2 SLP173 T01780144 < 1438273061 309246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1438273061 677780 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 301550Z 28012KT 9999 VCSH FEW025 BKN039 12/08 Q1004 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 28016KT < 1438273072 181506 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LOWI < 1438273072 547596 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 301550Z VRB02KT 9999 SCT035 BKN050 17/12 Q1016 NOSIG < 1438273116 658547 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EDDT < 1438273117 191578 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EDDT 301550Z 29010KT 250V320 9999 FEW048 SCT075 BKN094 18/07 Q1011 TEMPO 29015G25KT < 1438273783 802771 :mbrcknl!sid28171@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xdmdzghmujcwyeva JOIN :#esoteric < 1438274260 391590 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1438275161 623281 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1438275435 793844 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:3dc1:8baf:4500:5251 NICK :TieSoul_ < 1438275442 256734 :TieSoul_!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:3dc1:8baf:4500:5251 NICK :TieSoul < 1438275838 603769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1438276174 675298 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438276191 480287 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1438276489 197929 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can tell you how I represent the list of natural numbers as a single natural number. From right to left, you make the bits of the number: First the bijective base-2 but use only clear bits, and then one set bit, and then the bijective base-2 with clear bits for 1 and set bits for 2. And then you put the rest of the list (if any). < 1438276525 997221 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this correct? < 1438276571 820302 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:SwaggerMan14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43667 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+250) 10Recommended moving Pythagoras+ < 1438276594 889622 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no clue < 1438276656 923182 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making a shell... < 1438276662 173372 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a language called Scratch < 1438276665 802703 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because challenge < 1438277341 805879 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1438277395 11216 :InputUsername!~InputUser@ip54522415.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1438277734 403040 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: looks correct to me < 1438277759 447475 :InputUsername!~InputUser@ip54522415.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1438277761 787155 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a confusing way to explain it, though < 1438278204 649055 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck Sharp14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43668&oldid=43657 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+3466) 10Wrote instruction pages and some minor new instructions. < 1438278279 637077 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck Sharp14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43669&oldid=43668 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (-20) 10Fixed formatting (whoops) < 1438278523 175218 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438278609 915943 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438278691 820667 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1438278740 966765 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck Sharp14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43670&oldid=43669 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+797) 10Procedures < 1438278752 666977 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi variable < 1438278765 776813 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hi < 1438278771 826583 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I change for you? < 1438278773 529791 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::_ < 1438278780 705059 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*:) < 1438278784 35751 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No need to < 1438278793 761829 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1438278795 730854 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, good < 1438278800 300000 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excellent < 1438278804 737152 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say, what's your value? < 1438278823 635528 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what's your NAME even!? < 1438278846 7922 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We know you're a data storage system, but you give us NO clue as to how we should retrieve you < 1438278855 750044 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :constants don't really need names, do they... < 1438278868 27761 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: my value is nil < 1438278875 808576 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1438278880 40359 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :but really, I'm a mutable constant < 1438278886 419164 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1438278890 436072 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We heard :P < 1438278891 986234 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no promises that it will remain < 1438278969 612503 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you happen to know of or have any ideas for esoteric algorithms or data structures? < 1438279071 701867 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :constant: sounds like an implementation-defined value to me < 1438279078 35996 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps data-types? < 1438279127 790122 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( binomial skip trie ) < 1438279131 475004 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: a probabilistic sorting algorithm: 1/3 of the time in order; 1/3 of the time reverse order; 1/3 of the time random < 1438279156 735979 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's more of an output of an algorithm than an algorithm itself... < 1438279171 880723 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: stackalgorithm < 1438279181 450037 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1438279182 657464 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :search stackoverflow for "algorithm" < 1438279183 950563 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait what? < 1438279186 155784 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1438279195 894989 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :run it on first google result for "hippo" < 1438279200 888512 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :and see what result is < 1438279217 290648 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have more ideas if you want to hear them < 1438279220 59578 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only have good ideas < 1438279243 667779 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1438279269 228759 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A) I can't see any algorithms to run it on < 1438279270 740658 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's always the same one? < 1438279277 104532 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :B) I don't use google, I use Duck Duck Go < 1438279290 508155 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C) What int-e said. Won't we have different first Google results? < 1438279301 518994 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( "Duck! is what you say when you invoke the spell, not a material component." ) < 1438279316 51652 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways, now to continue to trying to get swi-prolog isntalled on el capitan < 1438279319 620033 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dies < 1438279329 134550 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds... fun? < 1438279329 464544 :__256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 NICK :_256Q < 1438279350 761275 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: fixing apple's system headers? no < 1438279352 826210 :_256Q!~toastyten@5.80.42.248 QUIT :Changing host < 1438279352 880518 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438279354 199222 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh Apple. < 1438279367 380283 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION had to $searchengine el capitan... < 1438279374 321420 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:WASD14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43671&oldid=34406 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+127) 10/* Purpose */ new section < 1438279378 229294 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid codenames < 1438279385 785063 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: normally I run FreeBSD < 1438279390 56687 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have an apple for travel < 1438279396 263686 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :my work machine is heavy :\ < 1438279400 734005 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssh home < 1438279413 935807 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I do do that < 1438279416 160451 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :but latency atm < 1438279432 928375 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways < 1438279433 958855 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION away < 1438279435 327802 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(haha, only serious) < 1438279500 36006 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY I'm not the only one with trouble installing programs on machines. OS-wise < 1438279631 477044 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438279682 896091 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438280199 896212 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1438280227 533881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr, can't trust tab completion < 1438280408 75863 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438280577 763659 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: lalala < 1438280577 869714 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: an award for that indentation < 1438280581 719069 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi ais523! < 1438280587 196553 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1438280587 250750 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1438280609 383138 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hppavilion[1] < 1438280627 76762 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1438280745 805159 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree with fungot. int-es indentation was incredible. < 1438280746 17761 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: yes, a very silly way: by implementing another turing machine in it. :) < 1438280773 869758 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the way that int-e interpreted another Turing machine in the indentation? It was very silly, but incredible. < 1438280781 25702 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/interpreted/implemented/ < 1438280790 342264 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway... < 1438280804 345542 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I'm amazing... wait, what happened here? < 1438280814 753866 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION blames fungot. < 1438280814 861831 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: its ban time!!! eheheheheeheheheh the guy < 1438280842 138512 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :eery. < 1438280847 418814 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't there someone here that was working on a way of doing exact real computation of some kind? < 1438280908 531897 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would be a weird data structure to base a filesystem around? < 1438280935 193901 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, using something—I feel like it might have been similar to continued fractions or something—that can represent a lot of different real numbers exactly. < 1438280935 248244 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I guess an exposed linked list would be weird < 1438280941 675129 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not weird enough < 1438280943 941198 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: a queue would be pretty weird. < 1438280947 937844 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1438280953 779833 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are only two operations: "create a new file" and "read the oldest file and delete it". < 1438280954 595108 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm going for something REALLY weird < 1438280965 705078 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something *really* weird, you say? < 1438280968 903678 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1438280979 936605 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the weirdest data structure you serve here? < 1438280987 714915 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's an idea. < 1438280993 411798 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm listening < 1438281014 409090 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The filesystem is a polynomial. You create a file by multiplying the polynomial by (x - a), for some constant a. You delete a file by dividing by (x - a). < 1438281033 927436 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :In order to get a list of all files, all you have to do is solve the polynomial. < 1438281034 600665 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting < 1438281115 649170 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, and here's another idea. < 1438281119 361001 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "canyon filesystem". < 1438281124 962482 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's similar to the queue filesystem. < 1438281130 689599 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esoteric Operating System/File System14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43672 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+198) 10Created Page < 1438281137 603308 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1438281157 854501 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go on < 1438281175 56084 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The canyon filesystem has two lines carrying analog signals, one for input and the other for output. < 1438281180 738273 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1438281202 959981 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438281237 670523 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you put some input in, you eventually get the same input out, except—just like shouting into a canyon—echo and/or reverberation (and/or frequency filtering et/or cetera) are applied. < 1438281266 866762 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :spectacled < 1438281282 133038 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1438281282 653551 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1438281282 846801 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1438281282 901086 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1438281283 316025 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1438281286 788197 :spectacled!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1438281290 285798 :Sprocklem_!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1438281311 914445 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1438281319 90034 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1438281367 691418 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you just try to store data as an arbitrary analog signal without any processing, and you try to store data long-term by repeatedly feeding it back into the canyon, it'll get more and more distorted. < 1438281408 555118 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps we use an And-Or tree? It's usually used for representing probems... < 1438281412 411701 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And%E2%80%93or_tree < 1438281423 839058 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's a good idea too < 1438281449 289434 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parent_pointer_tree < 1438281487 449179 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :nihkihs < 1438281537 310091 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1438281541 710642 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1438281556 74168 :nihkihs!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1438281565 418576 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esoteric Operating System/File System14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43673&oldid=43672 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+62) 10Noted EsoDSes < 1438281753 301666 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose we could go for something less esoteric and just use a multidimensional Python-style array < 1438281827 821619 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So a file path might be: < 1438281890 553954 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disk:/Column,Row/Column,Row/Column,Row/ < 1438281898 926954 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You wouldn't need to name the file itself to access it < 1438281992 606070 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What do you think of that < 1438282004 124654 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR we could do some weird hybrid depending on level < 1438282024 150988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with analog storage is that you can't do reshaping < 1438282030 538201 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only reason we use digital storage at all is that you can < 1438282047 48314 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C/Tableindex/Treelocation/1 for the front of the dequeue, 0 for the back/ < 1438282055 933838 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*C: < 1438282111 781586 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you care so much about making the path look like a Windows path (a modern one with forward slashes, at that) < 1438282153 198149 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well because I don't feel it'd work very well if it doesn't have nesting < 1438282166 409935 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just using the windows path because that's just syntax, not semantics < 1438282167 617658 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kind of < 1438282170 802331 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit semantic < 1438282180 416138 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1438282181 77683 :InputUsername!~InputUser@ip54522415.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not using nesting would be fun and esoteric, right? < 1438282191 376242 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's the kind of semantics would be included < 1438282202 466992 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not using nesting would put eveything in the same folder < 1438282209 751167 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "Folder" < 1438282214 740417 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1438282219 768642 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As there wouldn't be folders in an unnested OS < 1438282245 348556 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And DOS used to do that < 1438282250 142902 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So would it really be that esoteric? < 1438282250 708437 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438282258 822244 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd just be a pain to work with < 1438282281 238036 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't think the EsoOS should be Malbolgey < 1438282348 969274 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think, InputUsername < 1438282368 500263 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not have a tag-based filesystem? where you can tag a file with a number of tags, and search by tag < 1438282373 530859 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, we can't just use an array (associative or otherwise) for the filesys, as that wouldn't be soy enough < 1438282374 697468 :InputUsername!~InputUser@ip54522415.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ehh... I suppose it should be usable. < 1438282379 9134 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a hierarchial filesysetm is a special case of that < 1438282384 757450 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's something < 1438282391 197117 :InputUsername!~InputUser@ip54522415.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds cool. < 1438282392 191615 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll add it to the idea list < 1438282411 712833 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that would be very, VERY slow and inefficient on large filesystems < 1438282458 62552 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, what philosophy should we base the Filesystem after? < 1438282465 837118 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aside from just "Be Esoteric" < 1438282472 440282 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's choose a language to base it on < 1438282483 997694 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just in conceptualization, not in implementation < 1438282503 171788 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( is there any use for copy on read semantics? ) < 1438282515 302133 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure < 1438282536 312217 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a question about the filesystem or some other project? < 1438282556 126277 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I'm having trouble understanding what that meant < 1438282561 137798 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly because I'm an idiot :P < 1438283930 339783 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I was trying to think of a file system related concept that might conceivably be complemented. < 1438283940 808191 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1438284243 66807 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1438284393 622614 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :tag filesystem is boring < 1438284396 649491 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about having initially full, infinite binary trees as file, and a write operation that allows you to prune the tree (cutting off a subtree)... < 1438284398 721646 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :arbitrary graph filesystem < 1438284408 811018 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait isn't a tag filesystem an arbitrary hypergraph < 1438284422 940396 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1438284432 628890 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1438284465 690875 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it would be a "truncate only file") < 1438284861 941375 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@199-241-202-205.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438284917 55259 :Froox!~Frooxius@199-241-202-205.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438285151 38076 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@199-241-202-205.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1438285188 541922 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1438286367 966915 :InputUsername!~InputUser@ip54522415.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl QUIT :Quit: How do I IRC < 1438286467 12941 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1438287082 409116 :dtscode!~dtscode@174-134-38-211.res.bhn.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438287911 28813 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438288386 647033 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438290163 91243 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-14-100.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1438290225 753088 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-14-100.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1438290225 846739 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1438290322 1973 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1438290323 347449 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1438290366 169041 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438290704 703635 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1438290764 245338 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nikhanselmann.com/public/etc/thesis/ < 1438291065 170389 :Froox!~Frooxius@199-241-202-205.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1438291403 92756 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i tell if my gawk was compiled with bignum support? < 1438291436 21185 :dtscode!~dtscode@174-134-38-211.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try a really big number < 1438291437 259970 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, wha... < 1438291488 861129 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah i tried with 2 ^ 10000 and it can only compute it with -M < 1438291490 645494 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, why!? < 1438291522 220171 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh wrong channel < 1438291527 889102 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought i was in #awk < 1438291536 416322 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry ^^' < 1438291977 549537 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1438292056 358483 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Some people would probably argue awk is esoteric =P < 1438292066 875098 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Dunno < 1438292067 183280 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :awk is sane < 1438292101 57489 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the weirdest thing in awk is how you declare local variables < 1438292127 811704 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :funcname ( a , b , c ) { code here } then you call it like funcname ( a , b ) and c is local < 1438292454 430779 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :the string concatenation operator being is pretty weird too < 1438292523 52171 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's weird about it? < 1438292594 960752 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a = a b == $a .= $b in php < 1438292622 49644 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not much weirder < 1438292853 361392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1438293288 495281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : . o O ( binomial skip trie ) <-- is that a data structure or a novelty dance twh < 1438293327 846738 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@71-34-83-253.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438293408 738453 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does twh mean < 1438293436 592466 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? twh < 1438293445 477757 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : twh would help, but is an hth derivative. hth. twh. hand. < 1438293468 713720 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1438293479 948083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1438293487 457873 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachego < 1438293492 676561 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I feel like some of these wisdom entries are kind of unhelpful. < 1438293503 273447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't possibly imagine why < 1438293509 933399 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the ch is a uvular fricative hth < 1438293519 571327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i chnow < 1438293579 896832 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: HackEgo ran away, he bravely ran away away < 1438293590 523547 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other day I was talking about < 1438293595 977757 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_palato-alveolar_sibilant < 1438293596 698951 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1438293602 517261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_alveolo-palatal_sibilant < 1438293627 626088 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like these people are parodying themselves. < 1438293635 649064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even hear the difference between the two. < 1438293657 402684 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But Russian speakers can.) < 1438293664 116377 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438293668 855553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: There. < 1438293675 281934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome HackEgo < 1438293774 173727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@fizsnack < 1438293774 228091 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1438293841 639836 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bøtsnack < 1438293841 730801 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1438293868 751909 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woe is me. < 1438293870 209086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what are you snickering about < 1438293884 395857 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm writing assembly, and I want to put A on the stack, then put B on the stack, then take A off the stack, then take B off the stack. < 1438293890 764961 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is it time to go snicker-snack? < 1438293907 31611 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hungry? Eat a snicker-snack. < 1438293932 136848 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hand < 1438293933 326338 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not a very woeful situation. < 1438293933 469908 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A hand in the bush is better than a stoned bird. < 1438293945 544936 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT AM I TO DO < 1438293954 352641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want something else. < 1438293975 75457 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds hard. < 1438293998 300988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"whoa is me" < 1438294001 63029 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- stoned bird < 1438294024 848868 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically: I want to put all registers onto the stack, then change to a different stack, then put a couple more registers on the stack, then pop all the registers off the stack, then pop the desired registers off the stack... < 1438294029 651849 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come to think of it, it's obvious. < 1438294039 637800 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just need to put the registers I want to save into the appropriate location in the stack. < 1438294056 933233 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Eew.) < 1438294057 140043 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you implementing threads? < 1438294062 158818 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes! < 1438294066 978328 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done that. < 1438294121 70159 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Userspace threads under amd64-linux-gnu? < 1438294140 535971 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, kernelspace threads under... nothing. < 1438294164 416344 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1438294177 784223 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's the code I wrote, kind of: https://github.com/rethinkdb/rethinkdb/blob/next/src/arch/runtime/context_switching.cc < 1438294186 485362 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like it's been heavily modified since then. < 1438294208 837582 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But kernelspace threads are harder. < 1438294231 278517 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you switching address spaces too or something? < 1438294324 918781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: as usual when reading about that sound in wikipedia i end up completely confused about what the norwegian sj-sound is supposed to be. < 1438294459 724926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am starting to think sj and rs don't represent different sounds at all, at least in southeastern dialects < 1438294529 957797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i keep getting the impression that whoever adds the norwegian information to these articles isn't quite competent < 1438294623 586391 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the two articles you linked and the norwegian phonology article have three different suggestions. < 1438294630 640538 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1438294663 694200 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sj-sound hth < 1438294679 689249 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nope, I'm pretty much only switching some registers. < 1438294703 105549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's swedish only. i've been training on pronouncing it, but it's definitely not a norwegian sound. < 1438294712 393999 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can barely distinguish voiceless velar/uvular fricative. < 1438294765 642230 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For that matter, I often hear alveolar trill as uvular trill. :-( < 1438294786 944415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree on the first but not the second < 1438294807 690108 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, because you can pronounce alveolar trill. < 1438294814 566673 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or can you? < 1438294815 560046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*MWARARARA* < 1438294836 470950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's of course _usually_ a flap in norwegian... < 1438294860 701921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but adding a few extra trills isn't that hard. < 1438294866 751965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pero un perro < 1438294868 427893 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a flap? < 1438294879 709802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a trill but just one :P < 1438294889 795849 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, I think that's what Imean. < 1438294897 784090 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Modern Hebrew 'r' is usually voiced uvular fricative, I think. < 1438294927 224188 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1438295103 608006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd been assuming it was an alveolar flap/trill, probably by default < 1438295136 20087 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did you have the occasion to make assumptions about this particular consonant < 1438295354 732382 :spatterworthy!621cff0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.28.255.13 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438295438 180022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lessee, we learned some hebrew songs in school, which would of course be completely unreliable on this front. and then there's the eurovision song contest back in the day. i suppose i haven't really been paying attention enough to pick it up reliably. < 1438295472 254002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1438295478 757908 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries youtube < 1438295491 355713 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i learned some hebrew songs in school too < 1438295502 205107 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know much about the eurovision, though < 1438295568 448418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found one of shalom chaverim but i don't think it's sung by israelis... < 1438295603 183664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :top comment is relevant :P < 1438295617 492182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRZaop5ZoJA < 1438295630 873200 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438295633 132419 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1438295633 556584 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 302219Z 22009KT 15SM -SHRA FEW030 SCT045 BKN075 27/20 A2966 RMK CU1SC2AC4 SLP042 DENSITY ALT 1800FT < 1438295641 700076 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boilhy < 1438295649 924579 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet fungot in the bit bucket, please have mercy... < 1438295650 194576 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and a spear at its throat, you kill it, you can also program by telling it stuff that can be changed < 1438295659 217077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1438295659 535657 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 302220Z 30016KT 9999 -SHRA BKN016 BKN024 10/08 Q1006 RMK WIND 670FT 26012KT < 1438295665 986125 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yup. going to kill that weather before it gets the better of me. < 1438295666 306047 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it seemed like a circuit simulator, and i'm afraid it would be awkward, as it has the same title by all of the above, darcs seems simplest) < 1438295672 355684 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan! < 1438295777 746493 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tonight's diacritical soup was particularly tasty. < 1438295794 888020 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure that youtube did it alveolarly, but i need a more confirmed israeli version... < 1438296058 112173 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: please stop leaking onto oerjan. he doesn't make sense. < 1438296058 324146 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you can compute the sk combinator expressions from the lc expression??, you are done < 1438296065 731799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1438296070 75000 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION computes the oerjan's sk combinator < 1438296077 806985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you are just failing at logreading hth < 1438296089 615579 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOO LOGICAL! < 1438296096 211791 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads the logs < 1438296157 379806 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose an uvular r would be logical for original yiddish-speaking communities, or something. < 1438296196 110341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see what wikipedia says < 1438296208 734703 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1438296296 94910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i suppose this confirms it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Hebrew_phonology#endnote_3 < 1438296432 173732 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopiaaaaaaaaaghghghghfhrhghfhgiurhghghrgh :D < 1438296604 94441 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So %esp points to the top thing on the stack, right? Then 4(%esp) would point to the fifth byte from the top, 8(%esp) to the ninth byte, and so on? < 1438296712 320270 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :No wait, (%esp) would refer to the top thing on the stack. < 1438296759 989151 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :And %esp points to it. 4(%esp) isn't generally a pointer. < 1438296859 547890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i think boily's portmachine is leaking something < 1438296901 854752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :spot of the phonology, governor? < 1438296937 753857 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1438296947 304020 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, that would depend which way the stack is < 1438296954 254510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives shachaf a spot of the saucepan ===\__/ < 1438296965 313517 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this is x86. The stack is only ever one way, isn't it? < 1438296973 679468 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: You can DIY if you really want. < 1438296974 91915 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know x86, like, at all < 1438296976 479805 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe??? < 1438296979 215674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :esp is just a register like any other < 1438296981 146622 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's correct as far as the push/pop instructions go. < 1438296984 186198 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bottom of the stack has the highest addresses, the top has the lowest addresses. < 1438296984 636475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as you don't use push/pop/call/ret/etc. < 1438296997 754927 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'll make sure not to use push and pop and the like, then. < 1438297057 880068 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: those are unIPAifiable sounds. quintopia knows them. < 1438297061 119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i find this spot meme to be scow hth < 1438297067 735466 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ah. < 1438297070 823790 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: also, is it a regulatory spotty saucepan? < 1438297076 716278 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it is scow < 1438297084 784645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: does it help if you imagine it being said in a thick american accent? < 1438297130 917803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: darn that's got to be the problem, i was imagining really snobby queen's english < 1438297187 607724 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can the FLAGS register be used in push and pop instructions just like any other register? < 1438297189 773577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the saucepan abides no rules < 1438297214 465423 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: No, there's a separate instruction for it. < 1438297225 333567 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :pushf/pushfd/pushfq in Intel parlance. < 1438297257 292691 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe that's a "yes" from another point of view. Depends on how you define "just like". < 1438297294 788014 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: x86 is scow, use x86-64 instead hth < 1438297324 118633 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: you can turn one out of the lods/stos instructions into a stack operation for a stack that's growing to either direction, but they're not conveniently pairable: both post-{inc,dec}rement, and they use different implicit registers. < 1438297404 792005 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dailydish/2012/04/a-spot-of-tea-pops-up-at-spice-station.html < 1438297431 712688 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dang, is this really all of the assembly I need? < 1438297480 4037 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Your precious x86-64 doesn't even have pusha or aaa QED < 1438297485 205412 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :pushfd \ pushad \ xchg %edx, %esp \ mov %eax, 24(%esp) \ mov %ebx, 12(%esp) \ mov %edx, 16(%esp) \ popad \ popfd < 1438297505 359405 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: at least i have rip-relative addressing < 1438297512 172797 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAA < 1438297526 653217 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only reason i don't have pusha is that i have a zillion registers < 1438297544 951759 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than can even fit in dram < 1438297587 964244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: fascinating http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-spo3.htm < 1438297659 423753 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you must know a lot more about spots than i do at this point < 1438297668 590620 :spatterworthy!621cff0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.28.255.13 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438297675 150741 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically, it's so stereotypically british that soon only americans use it. < 1438297685 613053 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1438297698 33466 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the origin of this phrase was certain folks making fun of a british person < 1438297716 55945 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was said with a mock british accent of some sort < 1438297732 89714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then they were told not to make fun of british folks, so they started saying it in an american accent instead < 1438297766 942439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :say it in a politically correct accent, clearly < 1438297957 813472 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:InputUsername14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43674&oldid=43666 5* 03InputUsername 5* (+111) 10Added Underload interpreter < 1438298066 116596 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl 6 Junction, what's yoor function? Syntax sugar for a thing similar to the list monad < 1438298089 850222 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why I'm suddenly fascinated by Perl 6. Supposedly it's going to release at the end of the year < 1438298163 161796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which year, is the question < 1438298219 503625 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Supposedly this year < 1438298230 95498 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-76-94.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438298260 798754 :Slereah__!~Slereah@APuteaux-653-1-2-27.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1438298415 542687 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1438298614 829190 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most things inn Perl 6 are Any. Except Junctions. Anys and Junctions are Mu. I wonder if we could define our own non-Any that manipulates things around it when used as an argument the way junctions do < 1438298698 219161 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"My favorite suggestion in all of this was to make Perl 6 a pure functional language and introduce monads." < 1438298701 847535 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.perl.com/pub/2005/02/p6pdigest/20050222.html < 1438299078 522997 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't help but think of perl 6 as a giant joke any more < 1438299157 211212 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"While one side believes that auto-threading repetition of sid effects will crash any database that interacts with Perl 6, the other side believes that requiring extra pragmas to unlock their full power will prevent junctions from curing cancer." < 1438299268 643756 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1438299377 829473 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438299591 516728 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any non-homeopathically statistically significant user base for perl 6? < 1438300067 641374 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1438300083 831800 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438300437 928787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Isn't there someone here that was working on a way of doing exact real computation of some kind? <-- rings a bell. some kind of continued fraction where the numbers were given by a polynomial? < 1438300460 207130 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so could do e.g. e and stuff < 1438300499 685434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and not just unbounded precision, but exact.) < 1438300520 302479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my memory of it is definitely not exact < 1438301302 255121 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@71-34-83-253.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438301599 646176 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438301648 963439 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had an idea for a sort of esoteric concept in programming < 1438301658 991214 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somthing that could be put into libraries and such < 1438301700 9589 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Material Time < 1438301710 335671 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone want to hear about it? < 1438301721 422511 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 perhaps? < 1438301761 961206 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: ^^ < 1438301774 613983 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. material time? < 1438301812 901699 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1438301820 708023 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you like to hear about it? < 1438301884 791600 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK what is idea? < 1438301886 912675 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to hear about iiiiit ♪ < 1438301901 266579 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically < 1438301913 158494 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this is probably going to sound pretty stupid once I say it < 1438301957 932007 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time in computer science is typically represented as A) A number (for durations) or B) A point in time (for time/date) < 1438301978 903926 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My idea is basically a way to represent time in human terms < 1438302010 322002 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So to represent the duration of 5 minutes, 22 seconds (in python), one might use a list or set: < 1438302039 286099 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[minute()*5, second()*22] < 1438302057 254674 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this syntax, minute*5 returns a list of 5 minute() instances < 1438302068 794422 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the same syntax is used for secodns < 1438302105 554335 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's more of a bag (or multiset) < 1438302148 20238 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a pythonic list < 1438302193 624828 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], I mean, there's no point in allowing [minute()*3, second()*12, minute()*4] < 1438302206 778493 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's still 7 minutes and 12 seconds < 1438302211 974410 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah < 1438302217 300942 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it'd technically work < 1438302222 446215 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just due to bugginess < 1438302228 700986 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd work in implementation < 1438302299 986585 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So? < 1438302302 800947 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1438302327 659825 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Client Quit < 1438302452 619072 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily? zzo38? < 1438302461 996592 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], could you use this for other measurements? < 1438302474 199994 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you could < 1438302478 987090 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like [feet()*4, inch()*8] < 1438302487 515021 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why I didn't think of that :P < 1438302521 106634 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it'd be foot()*4 < 1438302546 414831 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good point < 1438302572 818517 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there'd be rich comparison operators < 1438302591 797124 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So assert foot() == inch()*12 will work properly < 1438302627 515252 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[minute()*5, foot()*foot()*minute()*fungot()] < 1438302627 764447 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: people dudes. only that code right there can see the bloom right < 1438302637 573137 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you idea blooms. I approve. < 1438302640 97092 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And maybe inch() == millimetre()*25.6 < 1438302648 14603 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, so, fungot is inverse area? < 1438302648 121313 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what is odd abpit tje irc protomilk < 1438302649 577068 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle. itym 25.4. < 1438302669 27751 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's abpit tje irc hth < 1438302669 678712 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, maybe, I don't remember the precise conversion on the tenth of millimeters < 1438302680 951584 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only problem with this as an Esoteric library is it could be potentially useful for better undersanding code efor some people :P < 1438302715 783585 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOOH < 1438302716 814660 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOH < 1438302727 438326 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], you could get weird things like foot()*hour()*hertz() == 3600*foot() < 1438302738 694569 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mile*65/hour() < 1438302755 770562 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mile() < 1438302777 882543 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I suppose one could make a variable called mile that equals mile() < 1438302778 768083 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No... < 1438302783 86867 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wouldn't really work < 1438302785 224325 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it might < 1438302794 86280 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, none of these need to be functions < 1438302802 50216 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're classes < 1438302818 12991 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't need to be classes, either < 1438302824 324770 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mile() is pythonic syntax for "A new instance of the mile class" < 1438302825 598008 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1438302829 68383 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do suppose not < 1438302845 585165 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if we make them that, we can give them methods < 1438302865 90705 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And everything is nicer in the world of OCD programming if we do < 1438302872 394386 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So we could do things like < 1438302887 390454 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :second.sleepfor() < 1438302897 244825 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess we could also just make a method called sleepfor() < 1438302906 582239 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I guess that'd be cleaner too :P < 1438302912 914539 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And look nicer < 1438302917 987114 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have second, hour, etc be objects in the timeamount class or something < 1438302920 586597 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And be better in every way < 1438302928 936093 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works < 1438302936 828757 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should call that lib Feather. < 1438302943 542816 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :class duration{} < 1438302958 220658 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :class second(duration){...} < 1438302965 494655 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :class minute(duration){...} < 1438302968 17291 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etc... < 1438302976 768473 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I start work on this library? < 1438302991 679133 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should. < 1438303018 410624 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: NOTCH CHICKEN < 1438303089 7352 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I include Furlongs and the like? < 1438303355 726841 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you like < 1438303410 46335 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1438303451 312580 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How should I implement things like miles/hour? < 1438303460 981932 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I just create a speed class with operator overloading? < 1438303472 12361 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or should I do something more complex? < 1438303522 763122 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is up to you < 1438303536 728570 :egrep!~egrepnix@grpnx.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1438303572 175205 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will, of course, use SI units for conversion < 1438303756 450252 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll stick with modern equivalents of SI Units, instead of old units of meaurement that they used in the past. So that'll be a pain < 1438304284 889029 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist JOIN :#esoteric < 1438304288 929783 :Herbalist!~oz@unaffiliated/herbalist QUIT :Client Quit < 1438304803 545070 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1438304808 426786 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So here's how I'm converting time < 1438304820 662467 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a list of doubles < 1438304835 983255 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first item of each double is a time material < 1438304848 243052 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the second is how big it is in relation to the previous < 1438304866 507584 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So year is (month, 12) < 1438304876 498608 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Immediately followed by (decade, 10) < 1438305171 2996 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, that sounds like what I'm remembering. < 1438305216 698067 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: your material time idea reminds me of the idea of a programming language where variables can contain money. < 1438305234 787111 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, in such a language, you can't simply copy the value of one variable to another variable. < 1438305257 36737 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a function takes some money as an argument, you probably don't want to call it excessively many times. < 1438305303 406613 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an unusual usage for linear (or, since we're dealing with money, affine) types. < 1438305305 157829 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have a closure that *returns* money, then you can only call the closure once, because calling it exhausts the money. < 1438305325 861448 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438305351 89069 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438305351 323837 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1438305351 378251 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1438305423 379280 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I feel like my operating system is uncontrollably hurtling towards version 0.1. < 1438305431 110955 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe I should call it version 0.0.1, or 0.0.0.1, or ... < 1438305448 845705 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assign it a version smaller than any positive real < 1438305463 86748 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes, version epsilon. < 1438305478 918920 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Version x as x approaches 0 from the right. < 1438305488 312086 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not to be confused with version the limit of x as x approaches 0 from the right.) < 1438305504 44809 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My system will assume that a year equals 365 days becuse I don't feel like figuring out how many months _really_ go into a year < 1438305551 595965 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just version -1. That's smaller than any positive real. < 1438305649 980881 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see. Maybe version 0.1 should mean "kind of vaguely sort of usable". Then version 0.0.1 should mean "it does *something* significant", and version 0.0.0.1 should mean "it does something at all". < 1438305687 380056 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I've already achieved version 0.0.0.1. < 1438305776 136893 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I'm bored with it for now < 1438305802 286756 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :My goals for version 0.0.1 are dynamic memory allocation, cooperative thread switching, and handling of keyboard input. < 1438305850 131259 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What operating system? < 1438305856 908509 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you writing it in? < 1438305861 646532 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TELL ME THINGS < 1438306548 432816 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: TELLLL MEEEEEEE < 1438306572 219663 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION returns to the keyboard. < 1438306585 999789 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's called Rivertooth. I'm writing it in Rust. < 1438306722 924898 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll just use a best-fit memory allocation algorithm. < 1438306724 55572 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438307051 128029 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438307374 58062 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hard part is choosing which type of search tree to use. < 1438307535 265672 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438307656 492384 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Is it an actual OS or does it run under another OS? < 1438307672 422939 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an actual OS. It runs right on bare metal. < 1438307682 106719 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, it's supposed to. It runs successfully in an emulator. < 1438307691 39015 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I seem to be more or less drunk at the moment. < 1438307698 898614 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd describe myself as... 70% drunk? < 1438307708 170178 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just, y'know, for what it's worth. < 1438307756 171347 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1438307768 14435 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's right in the correct zone, from what I'm told. < 1438307777 286149 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I presume it isn't graphical? < 1438307783 886218 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1438307808 236363 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far, as you might be able to guess, it doesn't have dynamic memory allocation, thread switching, or support for keyboard input. < 1438307820 576341 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1438307829 516141 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that would come before Graphics < 1438307844 908642 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I meant I assumed you weren't _planning_ on making it graphical < 1438307864 852616 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whelp < 1438307871 653538 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might at some point; I dunno. < 1438307877 431361 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might as well learn rust now if you can make OSes in it :P < 1438307880 122657 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not really planning to ever support the mouse. < 1438307961 609518 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What emulator are you using? < 1438308008 405238 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bochs. < 1438308063 848850 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1438308071 908648 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And where did you learn to do this? < 1438308117 954021 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1438308132 873765 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would there happen to be a convenient online tutorial I could view? < 1438308154 318180 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION prays to atheist god that tswett didn't learn about OS development from a University or something < 1438308177 688844 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :There aren't really any OS development tutorials. There are some sort of guide-like things to help you out. < 1438308186 493111 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, wiki.osdev.org contains a lot of useful information. < 1438308186 586617 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1438308190 737824 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right < 1438308192 901684 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OSdev < 1438308197 261079 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forgot about that site :P < 1438308238 294477 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's sort of a tutorial now. < 1438308248 880640 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whelp < 1438308251 576135 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks! < 1438308255 83657 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ought to read that more, but I'd like to actually make some user programs first. < 1438308289 915884 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it will mostly be very silly things like operating systems made to work like adventure games. < 1438308304 499967 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The operating systems I'd like to make, I mean. < 1438308359 450485 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, operating systems made to work like they were made in a science fiction movie. < 1438308651 45438 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438308659 166746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an MDream system! i know this! < 1438309148 447757 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20010111 < 1438309928 465866 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lessee. I think I'll say that each memory slab is simultaneously a node in a red–black tree and a node in a doubly linked list. < 1438309994 985161 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :But first I'll sleep for about eight hours. < 1438310579 961280 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@71-34-83-253.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438310765 527204 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like these kind of jokes? http://allthetropes.orain.org/wiki/Textbook_Humor#Computing Do you have some of these book, some of the links don't work, and do you have additional examples? < 1438310789 813274 :ent0nces_!~ent0nces@71-34-83-253.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438310880 691684 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ideone.com/WR1Awc a is used in two contexts where it takes on different types, this surprised me for some reason < 1438310961 922837 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@71-34-83-253.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1438311664 518972 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1438311866 7201 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Client Quit < 1438311995 654047 :spatterworthy_!621cff0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.28.255.13 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438313271 675354 :spatterworthy_!621cff0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.28.255.13 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438313418 601404 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438313875 993860 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438313999 282461 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:3dc1:8baf:4500:5251 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1438315004 586301 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1438315404 456277 :dtscode!~dtscode@174-134-38-211.res.bhn.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1438315498 356293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?@ hm... < 1438315498 458772 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : hm... < 1438315508 874022 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :supoerjan < 1438315521 627126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?@ hm @run 1+1 < 1438315523 27332 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : hm 2 < 1438315528 904802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?@ hm ?run 1+1 < 1438315530 215271 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : hm 2 < 1438315532 873294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1438315548 949328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no distinction < 1438315555 816457 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently < 1438315623 455538 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@50.141.34.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438315885 870029 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438316225 206306 :Wright_!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Excess Flood < 1438316243 83455 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438316262 787433 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-71-52-126-76.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438316548 299139 :ela2!~canaima@190.200.236.188 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438316565 541367 :ela2!~canaima@190.200.236.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1438316702 992209 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: {{{}}{{{}}{{}}}{{}}} (www.adiirc.com) < 1438316964 93583 :ent0nces_!~ent0nces@71-34-83-253.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438317127 31890 :ela2!~canaima@190.200.236.188 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1438317331 433395 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@71-34-83-253.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438318048 616460 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438318062 661755 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So < 1438318112 451021 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a compiled binary from 1986 < 1438318118 357448 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an ancient ksh < 1438318133 451168 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i disassemble it? < 1438318251 554860 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you tried googling "1986 ksh disassembler?" < 1438318262 385468 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just "ksh disassembler" < 1438318282 80738 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that yields a surprisingly low amount or results < 1438318322 956083 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :objdump doesn't recognize the format, file says it's "compiled: WE32000 COFF object (demand paged)" < 1438318348 447074 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1438318418 809057 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :@(#)Version 06/03/86 < 1438318418 911722 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1438318436 449815 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry lambdy < 1438318441 732742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure it's not 86th of march 2006 hth < 1438318479 762612 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably is < 1438318590 810966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally a haskell platform < 1438318745 26227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm that darn text bug means maybe i should wait a little more < 1438318843 100655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not < 1438318866 175681 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whee! I got a (very small) pull request merged into perl6 docs < 1438318958 67229 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION worships at the feet of Sgeo_, for he is truly a god < 1438319828 105736 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going offlline while I switch houses < 1438319831 740953 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Quit: HICE < 1438320133 638020 :egrep!~egrepnix@grpnx.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes! The plural of house is hice! :D < 1438320194 29616 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:c5c5:ff1f:f515:93cc JOIN :#esoteric < 1438320396 635481 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438320922 88845 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438321072 628351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: nouse < 1438321985 17387 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@50.141.34.1 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1438322055 499247 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1438322069 90655 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438323715 474156 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@71-34-83-253.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438323884 940302 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438323905 987912 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So < 1438324121 364284 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438324159 113819 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1438324170 607767 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438324241 993323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1438324243 389085 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :banach-tarski/"Banach-Tarski" is an anagram of "Banach-Tarski Banach-Tarski". < 1438324294 51365 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's hackego made in < 1438324357 666700 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438324621 502409 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I think the "wisdom" program is a shell script < 1438324667 52665 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :entire bot < 1438324675 92327 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot are you a bot < 1438324675 316899 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walpurgisnacht: oh right. all of the files < 1438324681 316578 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I c < 1438324683 270907 :egrep!~egrepnix@grpnx.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bitbucket.org/GregorR/hackbot/src Huh. < 1438324930 493553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 995 < 1438324933 16247 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 995: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti < 1438326000 277910 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am checking out qubes < 1438327383 682907 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438328434 932399 :Walpurgisnacht!~Nihilumbr@74-61-60-199.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Fuck me < 1438328620 678238 :hppavilion1!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438328642 898671 :hppavilion1!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite frankly, I am surprised TBFSes are yet to be banned from the wiki < 1438329664 581402 :white_bear!~white_bea@AMontsouris-655-1-202-31.w92-151.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1438329673 393725 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438329796 766190 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of them would probably be. For example, a variant where the instructions are replaced with names of retail aprodisiacs. < 1438329861 497209 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :There has been a double standard with regards to hair salons, though. < 1438330042 735746 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-71-52-126-76.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1438330380 34092 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1438330469 860328 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1438332710 637108 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian JOIN :#esoteric < 1438333234 136083 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438333511 303092 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1438334063 632450 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438334748 889911 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1438334817 617276 :hppavilion1!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438335581 858397 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1438336415 317007 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1438337177 327009 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1438337582 633720 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438337767 363916 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1438338804 463514 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1438339668 63581 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once again I have hit the brick wall that I really do not know Java < 1438339709 742669 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle! < 1438339715 380151 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learn it! (Ram those bricks in your head.) < 1438339731 384175 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first step to learning java: install eclipse. the rest is automagic. < 1438339754 711634 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Automagic, the most deadly school of magic. < 1438339843 476547 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, unfortunately I am in the position where I need to be making the automagic < 1438339850 60403 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm writing an Eclipse plugin) < 1438339857 272004 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro JOIN :#esoteric < 1438339908 74915 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1438339909 467549 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. < 1438339928 903040 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafellot. are you an automagick expert? < 1438340026 305502 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1438340330 852434 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1438340360 426601 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eclipse automagic sounds like a place where the sun doesn't shine. < 1438341124 818073 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: FOREHEAD CHICKEN < 1438341351 600883 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1438341661 918894 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord. < 1438341678 958181 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes < 1438341686 283741 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Install eclipse, gg, surr at 20 < 1438341721 506067 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438342967 62471 :zadock!~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1438346894 204101 :J_A_Work!~J_Arcane@a91-153-98-205.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: J_A_Work < 1438347757 362317 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1438348492 355457 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438348890 657428 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1438349034 87587 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438349951 43550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1438350381 470889 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438350495 740183 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Client Quit < 1438350509 619188 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.135 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438350524 191316 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.135 QUIT :Changing host < 1438350524 245479 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438350744 33259 :Wallacoloo!~colin@2601:602:8a00:78e3:c5c5:ff1f:f515:93cc QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1438351005 588594 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: meeting < 1438351306 255223 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Quit < 1438351546 54673 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Quit: de retour dans 1 - 1.5 semaines || be back in 1 - 1.5 weeks < 1438352069 801532 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1438352351 984231 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438352593 940728 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438352621 622374 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1438353005 363936 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1438353090 391622 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438353897 662093 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh there's ghc-7.10.2 now and I don't have time for dealing with lambdabot < 1438354982 373148 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1438355356 85945 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438355460 644947 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Jackass14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43675&oldid=43523 5* 03JayCampbell 5* (-29) 10/* Interpreter */ link update to esoteric.ga < 1438355460 933347 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438355486 91680 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438356065 573416 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1438356080 316609 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438356085 88998 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1438356092 88099 :G33kDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude NICK :GeekDude < 1438357272 763191 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438357302 582857 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1438357538 401507 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438357567 984870 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:Deepfriedice!~Deepfried@CPE-121-222-254-192.lnse2.woo.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1438368013 152017 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1438368024 629745 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: rebooting < 1438368100 613697 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438368234 897961 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1438368680 738501 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1438368687 971388 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1438370265 280797 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1438370417 582618 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438370683 547924 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1438370716 981764 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1438371416 636874 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck constants14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43676&oldid=43590 5* 03Rdebath 5* (-1) 10Sorted by codelength, cells used, instructions run and the code. < 1438371664 889608 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@50.141.35.65 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438372208 653922 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck constants14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43677&oldid=43676 5* 03Rdebath 5* (-49379) 10Added all the best (I think) two-cell non-wrapping sequences, removed all sequences that aren't shorter 'cause they're boring. For every length+cells combination I selected the "best" (fewest steps) and discarded the others. Wrap, soft and non are inde... < 1438373139 831539 :impomatic_!~digital_w@31.185.136.135 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438373262 344428 :function!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1438375591 301868 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438375835 86739 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1438376870 458231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1438376871 541081 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something-that-isn't-in-hackego's-wisdom/It is now. < 1438377253 372676 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1438377254 732173 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :water/Water is a squishy substance that creeps along the floor and can suddenly fall from the heavens. < 1438377273 486207 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not at the Assembly this year. :/ < 1438377284 247809 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason they didn't move it from Helsinki to London when I moved. < 1438377294 336866 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's going on at the moment.) < 1438377419 593004 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438377445 105746 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I guess you'll have to be at the Higher Level or the Numerical Machine instead. < 1438377453 724080 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HAVE HAD < 1438377457 588208 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AN IDEA < 1438377481 985867 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I take cover? < 1438377516 313427 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probablay < 1438377518 989327 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Probably < 1438377523 496330 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY IDEA: < 1438377548 334127 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A language centred around gluing greek/latin roots onto functions to change their effect < 1438377625 914701 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ONE STEP FURTHER: < 1438377637 816766 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't glue them onto functions, you make functiosn out of them directly < 1438377684 578061 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... you're going to write an interpreter for latin? < 1438377690 501509 :singingboyo!~brandonso@deas.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck with that < 1438377887 62768 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1438377940 22766 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be an interperter for simple latin < 1438377944 680931 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not full latin < 1438377956 325200 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it would just be functions based around a few greek and latin roots < 1438377962 305340 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the whole language < 1438377969 330984 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though you bring up an excellent point < 1438378339 354730 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll just go with the first one, where roots form function modifiers < 1438378403 316626 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so difoo(x) == foo(foo(x)) for example < 1438378669 859278 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like this idea, except wouldn't it be ambiguous? < 1438378680 612247 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the user defines difoo < 1438378682 839455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1438378684 189516 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1438378831 883417 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1438378843 643725 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: -ify could be casts. like intify, charify < 1438379135 949373 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1438379143 333195 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good idea < 1438379190 203044 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: If the user defines difoo they get a syntax error for trying to define a rooted word < 1438379213 212266 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either that or it calls the defined difoo due to pattern matching < 1438379267 922513 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438379297 233424 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi boily < 1438379314 321150 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]! < 1438379315 929930 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're discussing an Esolang that uses greek/latin/etc roots to modify funtions! < 1438379327 987884 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!æ < 1438379338 839995 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was a declinated “!” hth) < 1438379403 151493 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When are they going to add all of the features of Tektronix 4014 (and maybe also 4016) into xterm? So far a few features are missing I think < 1438379450 156455 :hilquias!~user@unaffiliated/hilquias JOIN :#esoteric < 1438379465 512440 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hezzo38. can I write a modern program that uses Tektronix specific features? < 1438379551 537863 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You probably can, although some of the features are not currently implemented in Xterm. < 1438379561 14482 :SopaXT!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1438379567 680536 :SopaXT!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PART #esoteric :"AndroIRC" < 1438379577 912722 :SopaXT!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1438379590 165633 :SopaXT!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about a FunctionFuck? < 1438379607 17863 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1438379641 912943 :SopaXT!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g DoStuff{+++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-].} =DoStuff < 1438379667 88803 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438379690 256411 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SopaXT: We already have Toadskin < 1438379701 115459 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And another one I'm tryint to remember < 1438379743 848929 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pbrain < 1438380006 51564 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1438380670 951525 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-240.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438380690 730072 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-240.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438380810 629767 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1438380945 334718 :SopaXT!~androirc@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1438381228 957247 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-240.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438381245 69170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: yopumpkin < 1438381464 276018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1438381831 392351 :impomatic_!~digital_w@31.185.136.135 QUIT :Quit: http://corewar.co.uk < 1438381831 754895 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does a spot check for shachaf  < 1438381862 64371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: does that mean the vampire person saw the other person? < 1438381915 560305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um i didn't actually read oots yet < 1438381936 2987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reprioritizes < 1438381949 879532 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :then what are you doing logreading < 1438382056 457773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i was logreading, then i switched to another comic tab which i tend to open when logreading for stupid layout detection reasons < 1438382120 559724 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it believes i am on mobile when using my usual zoom setting, which i coincidentally change for the logs. saves clicks.) < 1438382294 331394 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i have no idea why you think that one person's last birthday is imminent < 1438382322 141934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :birthday? < 1438382343 193686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :belkar < 1438382438 889675 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid unorganized oots archive < 1438382526 20849 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you're looking for http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0329.html < 1438382527 900469 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1438382593 861522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well almost. < 1438382616 582447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0572.html < 1438382671 106603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go. < 1438382763 892665 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so i didn't remember the details < 1438382822 991804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea when their year ends, anyway, but i think it would be a good time for a heroic sacrifice. < 1438382847 27979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or stupid failure < 1438382890 901190 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438382955 41239 :hppavilion[1]!3ff12880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.241.40.128 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1438383166 4733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait it's winter solstice http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0987.html < 1438383175 511781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep pretty much the right time. < 1438383197 380415 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1438383205 520743 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you pay more attention that i do tdh < 1438383216 365428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1438383228 295103 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1438383460 596695 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1438384365 54898 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-240.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438385027 639464 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to make the smallest Sixel representation of a picture? It may help to change the color in the middle of a strip and to allow pixels to overlap each other < 1438385690 279192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Some of them would probably be. For example, a variant where the instructions are replaced with names of retail aprodisiacs. <-- are you entirely sure we don't have one already < 1438385790 277102 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a book that uses "positive" and "strictly positive" to mean ≥0 and >0 respectively. < 1438385804 43901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm no one's actually made the Casino Viagra language yet < 1438385808 80115 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this is probably a better convention, but using it is probably a bad idea. < 1438385828 996917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :strictly non-negative hth < 1438385857 199415 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use "nonnegative" and "positive". But for nonnegative integers they can just be called natural numbers. < 1438385919 584051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like refusing to eat meat except for seal cubs < 1438385965 362828 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think seal cubs are instructional aphrodisiacs. < 1438385982 761641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure you could convince the chinese of it < 1438386053 122876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hboily < 1438386087 222701 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :œrjbonsoian. < 1438386206 832780 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1438386763 131245 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1438386879 252965 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qubonsointopiar!