< 1438473852 53811 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438474024 918449 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1438474199 308197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one time i forgot a pen in the laundry went surprisingly well. it even wrote afterward. < 1438474223 309726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have, however, no intention of repeating such a mistake. < 1438474291 301435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i _think_ it wrote. my memory is a little vague. < 1438474306 231409 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1438474695 96434 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oil based ballpoint probably would not cuase problems in the laundry < 1438475057 719453 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION keeps his pens away from his washing machine and oerjan
< 1438475809 727300 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1438475856 799709 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The DEC technical character set doesn't seem to work in this version of xterm < 1438475980 459607 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one bigass sum symbol... http://www.vt100.net/charsets/dec-technical-vt420-green.png < 1438476062 575315 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I want to display nonunicode characters in a terminal, are there any magical escape sequences for that? < 1438476075 617622 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yes, but it depends on what you mean by "nonunicode" < 1438476080 272348 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what encoding are they in? < 1438476238 646254 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to use a different kind of character set that you can select subsets of, which can include all characters in: PC character set, all DEC character sets, Commodore 64, Apple MouseText, up to 256 user-defined characters, and probably also some more. < 1438476275 440462 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think all those are in Unicode? < 1438476297 844393 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, not all of them are. < 1438476308 490337 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither is Infocom character graphics, the other one I missed < 1438476333 299231 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some characters from some of these sets are, including the entire PC character set, but not all of the others < 1438476348 866908 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "up to 256 user-defined characters" are < 1438476354 609271 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: anything outside of unicode. mainly obscure platform-specific glyphs. < 1438476364 537124 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oh, I see < 1438476371 548813 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, probably what zzo38 is looking for at. < 1438476377 130971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there aren't any /standard/ codes for that because such a thing would have to be highly nonstandard < 1438476384 791261 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense. < 1438476402 613787 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... otoh, can I address individual pixels in a modern terminal and plot arbitrary data in it? < 1438476404 477980 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438476404 532333 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1438476404 532393 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1438476416 916976 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lleu, helleu. < 1438476426 992317 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: unless it's xterm, no < 1438476428 304530 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You can use Sixel, but you have to start at a tile < 1438476440 633070 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xterm can emulate more than one terminal, and one of them is graphical < 1438476441 328457 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1438476451 813994 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it has codes that are nothing like a vt100 < 1438476460 974128 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow. too lazy to launch xterm. < 1438476483 66684 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it has codes from later DEC terminals as well, as well as several of its own codes. < 1438476585 995775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t any < 1438476587 240026 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foldable t => (a -> Bool) -> t a -> Bool < 1438476716 617513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> or (Just True) < 1438476718 160048 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1438476767 945022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum (Left "hi") < 1438476769 505161 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1438476798 936141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lets it sink in
< 1438476847 876839 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t sum < 1438476848 875853 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Num a, Foldable t) => t a -> a < 1438476862 224950 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Left "hi" is Either String a < 1438476871 903826 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... uh... Num a implies having a zero? < 1438476877 319293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1438476883 463034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t 0 < 1438476884 427157 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Num a => a < 1438476909 871832 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, defaulting to Integer < 1438476913 947038 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438476927 963133 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not having anything implies having a nothing. < 1438476938 430459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum Nothing < 1438476939 938771 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1438476983 235240 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LA LA LA CAN'T SEE ANYTHING LA LA LA ♪ < 1438477049 489756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length Nothing < 1438477051 16241 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1438477097 951726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldr (-) 0 (Just 1) < 1438477099 448752 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1438477258 164752 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t foldr < 1438477259 246886 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foldable t => (a -> b -> b) -> b -> t a -> b < 1438477306 173737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, most of the list functions got generalized < 1438477370 627001 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is nice. but also stuff. < 1438477826 536718 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438479076 327719 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438479080 85962 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SOLVABLE CHICKEN < 1438481170 814425 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1438481815 539715 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1438482183 120925 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qwgypnntzjefddfi QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1438482627 61052 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438483286 443060 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1438483340 746520 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1438483782 691793 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438486563 643385 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438488284 551116 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1438488389 478263 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1438488619 587134 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1438490068 438475 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoorah, I have met shachaf in meatspacde. < 1438490172 212199 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1438490215 321473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does he look like his SO profile picture < 1438490232 660387 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1438490238 669621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1438490244 650996 :GeekDude!~GeekDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: "thats fantastic :b" < 1438490246 519325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: this is outrageous! < 1438490414 581336 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438490914 381990 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellu < 1438491147 1482 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :murning < 1438493934 666810 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438494033 832639 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Attempting to watch a TOS episode < 1438494034 154478 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438494039 521274 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The effects are so... bad < 1438494045 948969 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438494128 208529 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the standards of the day they were quite good. < 1438494141 318560 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait til you see contemporary Dr Who episodes. < 1438494287 403047 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm only watching this episode because I've seen multiple references to it and suggestions that it's really good < 1438494383 342055 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm not sure what Dr Who episodes would be contemporary < 1438494859 740966 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's some stutter like the Rift gets if fps is too low < 1438494980 618234 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438495050 750046 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellu < 1438495066 987997 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Hi < 1438495425 712090 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh crap I recognize this name from fanfiction :( < 1438495475 146568 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which name? < 1438495476 19080 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine? < 1438495485 170989 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo < 1438495502 164783 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wiit < 1438495508 341048 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wait < 1438495536 651828 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that I've said that even if it wasn't me now you know... < 1438495538 779805 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1438495635 368552 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The name of a character in this episode < 1438495665 954233 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1438495668 83148 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also predicting atomic power would require more than "speculation" if you're not a physicist, so guessing "speculation" is a bad guess < 1438495741 977474 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry for any spoilers for anyone who hasn't seen it yet < 1438495820 678665 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what show you're talking about < 1438495821 891633 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... < 1438495850 28160 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Star Trek The Original Series "City on the Edge of Forever" < 1438495857 256013 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now I will stop looking at this channel < 1438495860 480309 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or try to < 1438495867 911599 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1438496146 730030 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's with "6" in front of lyrics in the closed captions? < 1438496439 678136 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: pikhq must be confused. < 1438496487 164439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i look a lot more like that picture than you do like http://stackoverflow.com/users/1088108/%C3%98rjan-johansen , i'm sure < 1438496501 691811 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and anyway who's to confirm i even met pikhq < 1438496642 384135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly pikhq must have met an imposter, then < 1438498150 791129 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438498386 596150 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438498862 749280 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438499284 239809 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1438499964 609769 :YokeOfIdea!jason1@208.98.61.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438500095 824730 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438500350 764358 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438501707 136364 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1438501793 326456 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1438502769 37691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1438502778 409643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: ZZ < 1438504547 553944 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1438506542 654523 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438508476 6200 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fuck them < 1438508495 686430 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :another stupid webpage that gives only some stupid unusable javascript map for searching their shops, instead of a usable LIST < 1438508500 190820 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are they thinking? < 1438508589 714870 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1438508626 611398 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438509148 570333 :SopaLostPass!~SopaXorzT@5.29.31.92 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438509390 655703 :hppavilion[1]!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438509798 999752 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: ok wait, let me explain. FooCorp is a very big faceless corporation that not only has a webpage, but also lots of real life buildings where clients can walk in and use their services. < 1438509841 563665 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :As there's many such buildings, even within Budapest, I want to know which one to go to. This depends on the location, the opening hours, the services available there, and some other stuff. < 1438509885 228246 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FooCorp should put a list of their buildings on there homepage, in plain HTML format, giving the address, opening hour, and list of services, for each building. < 1438509944 132551 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't do that. Instead they have some unusable fancy combined server side and javascript search page, where you first have to specify in the search form which district you want shops in (so you can't just list all, but have to try all 20 possibilities), and then give some crazy javascript map page that I can't use, instead of a list of matches. < 1438509952 623263 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is true for at least two values of FooCorp. < 1438509989 917424 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their homepage is so unusable that I have to ask about the sites on phone or in person. < 1438510087 317763 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that clearer? < 1438510089 895130 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1438510094 596160 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those pages suck. < 1438510111 661600 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be easier to grep a text file . < 1438510129 437846 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, at least as an alternative. < 1438510275 165845 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :For at least one value of FooCorp, I had actually asked by phone, and then just found out that they gave an incorrect answer (unless it's changed recently). < 1438510366 663862 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :For another value of FooCorp, I'm not sure what to call by phone, because they don't generally do business by phone, and don't seem to have a general information phone line as far as I'm aware (maybe they do, but I can't find that from their homepage). < 1438510435 379556 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And when I said "faceless", I mean the individual workers I meet often don't know more than what's necessary for their job, so in person they usually can't tell me about the other sites. < 1438510539 787207 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know whether if I call them by phone they have to use the same stupid javascript thingy (which however may actually work slightly better on their work machines) or they have something better. < 1438510559 377146 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This may depend on the value of FooCorp and my question. < 1438510744 733164 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Information like this changes quickly enough that lists made by third parties are usually obsolate. < 1438511583 920623 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1438513626 791652 :SopaLostPass!~SopaXorzT@5.29.31.92 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438515030 88629 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438516159 327047 :Froox!~Frooxius@50.141.35.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438516290 504921 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@50.141.35.39 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1438516308 858364 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438516555 748052 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438516573 825472 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1438517923 533559 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438517923 737840 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1438517923 792290 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1438519395 460406 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1438519543 873084 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1438520794 327198 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1438520978 423989 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1438521967 652337 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1438521971 565673 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin/copumpkin is categorically incapable of being president. < 1438522042 573620 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell copumpkin come back here you vile cocucurbitaceæ! < 1438522042 830509 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1438522224 143973 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1438522225 568239 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :justice/Justice is just behavior or treatment. < 1438522230 613082 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1438522231 921270 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :output/ < 1438522244 564992 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` culprits wisdom/output < 1438522247 41586 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott olsner < 1438523198 156478 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SIPHONOPHORE CHICKEN < 1438523279 123668 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438523626 999997 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1438524487 24754 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438525209 602569 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438525894 754945 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438528337 508376 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1438529003 294754 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wisdom from the neural net: < 1438529004 727534 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:00:02: I don't know. There's a program on the different commands and a constant thing that aren't the same as a human function that is the same as a language to get a specific article. < 1438529057 725496 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-spnrhctjvajrlgzi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438529088 379544 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellu! < 1438529238 557934 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloren < 1438529445 305399 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-nzdnjwoikywjvyqe JOIN :#esoteric < 1438529490 579754 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Wisdom from the n-gram synthesis? < 1438529490 810859 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: for example, write a glass interpreter in c. code has no memory model. all models are wrong. < 1438530018 239575 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-nzdnjwoikywjvyqe QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438530305 400518 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-wvggibkcqmlbinpn JOIN :#esoteric < 1438530332 632157 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just learnt that M:tG isn't the only game with a flaming horse. There's a flaming horse pokémon too. < 1438530381 982796 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ponyta) < 1438530687 117781 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and rapidash < 1438530722 497716 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :its evolved form, yes < 1438530739 495195 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess fire, ice, and water versions of every popular animal exists in fiction < 1438530869 627340 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also dire and celestial and giant versions, plus miniature versions of every animal that isn't already small or smaller < 1438531365 637780 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait wtf?! unicode includes a ㋼ but no circled ン? < 1438531392 496542 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who even uses a ヰ let alone a circled one?!?! < 1438531500 879093 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are Pokémons in different generation Pokémon games so similar? < 1438531549 188125 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: why would you need a circled n? < 1438531578 931837 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't these for bullet headings or things like that? < 1438531599 934052 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I though they were for trademarks? < 1438531611 885018 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :trademarks? how so < 1438531646 224638 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like some store might but each kana of their name in a circle? < 1438531661 352913 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :trademarks is ™ < 1438531720 364611 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: um... I don't see how that would work. you could use a circled single kana as a trade mark, but it would be a logo, not a character. < 1438531770 714517 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why you'd do it for every character in a name though, unless you somehow associate a different product with each of them, like one for coke, one for fruit juice, one for ginger ale, one for tonic < 1438531906 362110 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the first results searching for ㋐ is a japanese forum where someone is asking why the character exists < 1438531937 624915 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see that, but I still don't see why you'd need a circled n character < 1438531956 435158 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For completeness < 1438531992 272085 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're going to have wi, which isn't even used much anymore, you should have n, which is. < 1438532037 873114 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wi isn't used in words, but it's still known to exist in the series of kana, so I imagine someone might use it if he starts numbering passages with letters < 1438532079 173275 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg. in a hungarian book or law, if points are marked with letters of the alphabet starting with a, b, c; it will use "q" eventually in a long enough list even though "q" doesn't usually appear in Hungarian words < 1438532095 666392 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense < 1438532131 69720 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know whether a list marked with kana would use wi, and it may depend < 1438532217 935307 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, these lists get horribly inconsistent when they need just a few more items than there are letters in the alphabet < 1438532253 472472 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the time they're used only when they need between 2 and about 13 items only < 1438532333 424717 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For lists in English texts I've seen numbers, letters, roman numbers, lowercase roman numbers, and in one case greek letters. < 1438532415 652367 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Excel goes A...Z,AA,AB,...AZ,BA < 1438532537 4773 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What numbering schemes does HTML support? < 1438532589 536149 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: quite a few, check the css documents < 1438532642 445825 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the AA thing apparently works with type="a" < 1438532665 689277 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/list-style-type < 1438532766 411546 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently css even allows you to create new list numbering styles < 1438532770 118795 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.w3.org/TR/css-counter-styles-3/#counter-style < 1438532858 581043 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1438532864 108768 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite complicated < 1438532949 499255 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.w3.org/TR/css-counter-styles-3/#predefined-counters lists the predefined styles < 1438533315 855668 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the CSS standard draft guys are perfectionists < 1438534041 921211 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :counter-style cjk-earthly-branch < 1438534045 795921 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... wow. < 1438534202 541347 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH! they didn't include circled ン because ン doesn't appear in the iroha < 1438534363 159089 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus when things are numbered by the iroha you don't need it < 1438534602 153159 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: why is ン considered a "real" kana in first place when ー isn't? < 1438534765 410998 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to be mu < 1438534875 935090 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438534884 818281 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-wvggibkcqmlbinpn QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438534893 755348 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438534905 887033 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-vuytyynuwtidahdm JOIN :#esoteric < 1438534972 635371 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438535073 611197 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: not sure < 1438535261 623809 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I mean it was introduced later than the other kana. < 1438535525 421314 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, the letters w and v are newer < 1438535569 527594 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is < 1438535597 835900 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is å counted as a letter? < 1438535630 86758 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: it's certainly a letter, the question is whether it's considered an accented version of a or a separate letter < 1438535638 331135 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1438535651 157047 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure I care about those distinctions < 1438535653 916446 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're sort of pointless < 1438535666 562085 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like when people discuss which digraphs count as letters < 1438535689 123543 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actually relevant points are how stuff are sorted in which traditional alphabetic order, < 1438535700 334780 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's like a separate order per language, or sometimes two or three of them, < 1438535708 817977 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus what letters count as the same in crossword puzzles. < 1438535727 215384 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess the question is if Excel had been invented in Norway would å be a column head? < 1438535750 892169 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: oh, there's that too, yes < 1438535773 972942 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I'm quite sure that ö is never used in any of the listings for Hungarian, < 1438535792 676940 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though a few use "sz" or "zs" or other digraphs, but those are rare too, they mostly come up when they run out of letters < 1438535812 874738 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most important actual variation is actually whether they include only "i" or only "j" or both "i" and "j" < 1438535821 115372 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are conflicting traditions on that < 1438535886 814850 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also some variations on how strings with spaces are sorted < 1438536006 802763 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily how strings without spaces are sorted is quite fixed in Hungarian, there's only one order < 1438536039 1037 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(technically, how dzs is sorted may have changed around the 80s when they turned it officially to a letter, but I don't think that ever comes up as a difference in any list of real strings) < 1438536091 414894 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you'd basically need a string that can be continued with both "dzs" and "dzú" or something, and "dz" is a pretty rare letter in the first place) < 1438536112 975521 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "dzs" one square in a crossword puzzle < 1438536248 538202 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: no. even "sz" is two squares < 1438536252 993752 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :crosswords have their own crazy rules < 1438536263 702530 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, "sz" is one square in Scrabble < 1438536265 796977 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's complicated < 1438536367 380486 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where crosswords differ is whether some vowels are allowed to be considered the same (so the horizontal word can contain one vowel but the vertical word a different one), and I think it's sort of an implementation quality thing in crosswords, as in, a crossword is "better" if it considers each 14 vowels different < 1438536744 369818 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :In German, crosswords universally require äöüß to be written as ae, oe, ue, ss. < 1438536781 154246 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: wow, I didn't know that < 1438536788 372467 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't have guessed about ae oe ue < 1438536802 416795 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing ß as ss makes sense of course < 1438536829 388627 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only time vowels are written as two vowels are very old telegram/telex messages. < 1438536837 308646 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Hungarian that is < 1438537096 892184 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :< b_jonas> how are Pokémons in different generation Pokémon games so similar? – Could you be more specific? Do you mean the ones that obviously occupy similar ecological niches in different regions? < 1438537171 348307 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And similar niches regarding players and npcs.) < 1438537258 789809 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: no, I mean most pokémons from generation 1 pokémon seem to exist in all later generations with the same name and type and generally the same proeprties or very similar properties < 1438537321 929062 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite that there's been decades of the consoles and games improving tech wise < 1438537337 397268 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. They’re the same ones. AFAIK Pokémon have never been removed from the national dex, only added. < 1438537360 214160 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1438537400 150286 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m not sure what you mean by why there. It’s all the same world, canonically. < 1438537404 104603 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well some have been given new types < 1438537412 314953 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same world, so the pokémons exist in the story < 1438537431 229375 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the strange part is that they're all (or most of them) still in the game and catchable and playable < 1438537438 709556 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :electrode was pure electric in earlier games and became electric/steel < 1438537449 527586 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the properties that matter in play, such as moves or how they evolve, are very similar too < 1438537456 563944 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: You’re thinking of the magnemite line, not electrode. < 1438537472 946018 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1438537512 741848 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mostly stopped playing after silver. (I beat a few of the newer games, but stopped playing after I beat them) < 1438537519 898991 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438537529 92913 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Generally they keep getting new moves as moves are added, but they generally keep being able to learn all the ones they could in earlier generations. < 1438537544 385181 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m just not sure what you find strange about it. < 1438537544 849109 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: I see < 1438537587 604663 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: dunno, are there any other series of games where the games are two decades apart, and have actually using two decades newer technology, but are so similar to each other? < 1438537628 63872 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... what about the handheld 2D Zelda games < 1438537629 171589 :villasukka!villasukka@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1438537634 326220 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1438537659 239211 :villasukka!villasukka@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1438537665 211648 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :compare the gameplay of Links awakening to misih cap < 1438537669 793635 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*minish cap < 1438537687 908877 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I can think of one example, tetris games are somewhat similar until you start to do crazy tricks < 1438537737 657197 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... the PC Touhou series started in 2002 < 1438537744 985414 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that's one decade < 1438537756 552514 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a bunch of subtleties with mechanics being added and changed that make the later games play somewhat differently in some respects. So matchups might have quite different results. < 1438537776 670131 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no characters have been removed from the Touhou universe < 1438537791 263943 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(since the PC era anyway) < 1438537808 375545 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, some tetris games. not all. < 1438537855 571503 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: If you have all the right hardware and software versions and stuff, you can probably still transfer a third-generation pokemon over all the way to the sixth. Also between the first and second, but between second and third there is no connectivity. < 1438537937 468506 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Street Fighter! AFAIK most characters from the original are in the most recent one < 1438537948 186149 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: yes, that makes it even more amazing. < 1438537965 874978 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: oh true, there's Mortal Kombat too < 1438537978 149320 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which has lots of common characters < 1438537991 185178 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some characters are removed in some later games, but still < 1438538059 760467 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Basically, most of the times they were like “transfer pokémon from the previous generation!” So necessarily everything needed to support the previous stuff. < 1438538070 768730 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: I see < 1438538163 21731 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :M:tG is sort of an example, with two decades of support of strange old cards on paper, and one decade in video games < 1438538239 388597 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether that’s the actual reason, I don’t know. It may well also have been a highly successful strategy to lure people from one generation to the next. < 1438538264 253257 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also there’s the remakes. < 1438538312 149871 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nintendo knows that I will buy a game over and over again < 1438538312 400437 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, Panglacial Wurm is from Coldsnap? < 1438538315 77533 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's CRAZY < 1438538323 870330 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Gen 3 included remakes of the main Gen 1 games, Gen 4 of Gen 2, Gen 6 of Gen 3.) < 1438538324 721528 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was an old card < 1438538332 439192 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would explain why it has such a strange ability < 1438538342 401082 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a new one, printed _knowing_ it's a strange ability < 1438538352 729119 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf did they do that? < 1438538375 199279 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :did that strange mechanic exist on an older card? < 1438538383 879427 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-103-201.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is currently playing a Gen 3 pokémon game … emulated on his phone.
< 1438538409 264082 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it did < 1438538410 520369 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't feel guilty emulating nintendo games that I've bought three times < 1438538431 617567 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be sure, shachaf looks more like SO shachaf than oerjan looks like SO oerjan, I'm sure. < 1438538603 92695 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438538700 601276 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not on StackOverflow < 1438538724 641085 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should put a picture of myself on my website... < 1438538852 88366 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1438539531 173586 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conservapedia says that Wikipedia's article about Riemann "contains little discussion of Riemann's faith and tries to downplay his fundamentalism as though it were merely a passing interest as a teenager". I have looked; it seems to contain a reasonable amount of discussion to me, and the other criticisms Conservapedia makes are also invalid, although perhaps this information could be made easier to find; currently information about his religious be < 1438540115 344636 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conservapedia also seems to misunderstand what the word "mythology" even means. < 1438540747 468370 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I'm actually using two pinned windows now. Maybe I should reinstate the keyboard shortcut for pinning a window when I rework my window manager configuration. < 1438540753 848680 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't use to use pinned windows much < 1438541187 870828 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What window manager is that? < 1438541199 677859 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: icewm < 1438541220 323179 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pinned means it stays on the screen when I switch between "virtual desktops" < 1438541297 252100 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'll want to rework the window manager configuration a bit anyway, though I won't change anything really significant, but I want to set it up so I can control two nested instances (such as inside and outside vnc) so there's two variations of the wm config with the more important keyboard shortcuts duplicated in some consistent manner (eg. with or without shift) < 1438541779 839561 :SirCmpwn!~sircmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1438541793 934802 :SirCmpwn!~sircmpwn@irc.sircmpwn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438541876 565780 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also don't know of other cards with Panglacial Wurm's special ability < 1438541966 673350 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does mean you can use mana abilities while searching your library; see which cases it helps with < 1438542022 524927 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yep, and I was wondering if a mana ability could somehow cause to end your turn during searching your library, and what would happen then with the rest of the effects on the spell you're resolving < 1438542040 108664 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg. at what step would you put the land you searched for into play < 1438542060 575061 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, there is that too, but I don't know of any mana abilities that end your turn immediately < 1438542065 18641 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whether there's some multiplayer shenenigans < 1438542083 673139 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: not immediately, but as some multi-step consequence of say sacrificing permanents < 1438542102 626871 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's hard because most of the tricky things don't happen immediately, but only as triggers or state-based effects < 1438542119 767120 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes that is what I thought. < 1438542139 296540 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rulings mention that you can mill your library while searching using Panglacial < 1438542144 717090 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it can be of interest if a puzzle is made up that involves this using the mana abilities while searching your library. < 1438542195 340613 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you can know what the top card of your library is and use this to determine whether or not you want to discard it due to Millikin < 1438542226 212121 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but that's not really breaking anything < 1438542232 558297 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are easier ways to know what's in your library < 1438542287 803069 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering if there's some way to search your library but not shuffle afterwards, but it's probably both impossible and wouldn't be interesting, because the rules don't actually permit you to rearrange your library when searching technically < 1438542298 783542 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although it is still one way, such as if that is all you have available < 1438542320 150003 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except that you can lose the game, but then your library won't be interesting anymore)_ < 1438542496 868508 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unrelated to Panglacial, there's one rules thing that I don't understand. < 1438542507 697997 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What rule is it? < 1438542573 32364 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are actions in the rules that are supposed to happen "at the same time", and this can involve putting multiple cards onto the battlefield, and that happens fast enough that the Ally trigger on each of them happens. < 1438542605 608935 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But consider Land Equilibrium. This has a replacement ability that can replace putting a card onto the battlefield with two events that aren't supposed to happen at the same time. < 1438542620 7095 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1438542620 578326 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens when Land Equilibrium replaces putting one of multiple cards onto the battlefield? < 1438542634 303849 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In what order and speed do the events happen then? < 1438542649 324970 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1438542650 133713 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1438542650 188100 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1438542650 633920 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1438542651 205880 :jix_!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1438542651 816731 :sunnymilk!~sunnymilk@unaffiliated/sunnymilk QUIT :*.net *.split < 1438542655 324693 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1438542656 658348 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1438542656 740912 :nortti!~juhani@ayu.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1438542659 898246 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1438542669 155147 :sunnymilk!~sunnymilk@unaffiliated/sunnymilk JOIN :#esoteric < 1438542685 275295 :pdxleif!~pdxleif@ec2-54-68-166-10.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438542687 436361 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, maybe if you read the rules you can figure out < 1438542693 276002 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, irc server shut down. How much did I get through? < 1438542700 777282 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens when Land Equilibrium replaces putting one of multiple cards onto the battlefield? < 1438542706 279446 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In what order and speed do the events happen then? < 1438542721 280460 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously I don't believe that "at the same time" actually means at the same time, it's just fast enough that some things aren't checked in between by the rules. < 1438542736 784778 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still, I don't know what happens with a replace like this, and I haven't seen a relevant rule. < 1438542772 294305 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Luckily such replacement effects seem to be rare. < 1438542794 805392 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sheltered Valley has another one. < 1438542817 306284 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Land Equilibrium is probably the best. < 1438542939 540190 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is one of my own card that has a mana ability that counters all spells with split-second ability < 1438542997 249067 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: one what? < 1438543072 937327 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which card is that? I don't see it in http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/magic_card/cards.txt < 1438543087 844087 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and can it counter a spell during paying its cost? < 1438543226 61882 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a mana ability, so it can work even while spells with split-second are on the stack, and when you can use mana abilities (such as with Panglacial Wurm) < 1438543257 545583 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is "Stone of Interruption" < 1438543354 868148 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: great, I think you can use that during paying for a Stone of Interruption that you started to cast < 1438543381 345722 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1438543404 396671 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it also possible to somehow use it to counter a split second spell while it's resolving? I don't remember what split second spells there are < 1438543411 186492 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also have "Kjugobe's Psychic Control" which grants another spell a split second ability < 1438543491 174299 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I think you can still face morph cards when spells with split second are on the stack < 1438543500 480264 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of an instant with "Turn target spell face down.", let's call this Pongify Spell. How much would that break the rules, now that we can manifest sorceries? < 1438543584 468384 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, you've made a lot of new cards. I'll have to look at them later. < 1438543587 655173 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't quite know, although I did make a card that has "Manifest target spell" < 1438543631 572306 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? "Manifest target spell"? what does that do if that spell isn't a card (but a copy of a spell)? < 1438543698 380868 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, although I have made up a rule that makes spells that aren't represented as cards to come into play as tokens < 1438543730 890047 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly studying the other rules, can figure out more < 1438543731 342982 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :UVC, or Unicode Vernacular C, is a dialect of C in which certain unicode characters may be used in place of certain sequences of ASCII characters. < 1438543812 716414 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spells that come into play as tokens, such as when they resolve? Now that's scary. < 1438543853 5386 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, such as if you make a copy of an enchantment spell or creature spell or whatever < 1438543860 89268 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd need a careful modification of that tricky rule that gives all the exceptions of when an effect can follow an object moving through zones. < 1438543866 90979 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, ≥ ≤ and ≡ may be used instead of <= >= == respectively < 1438543903 460152 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: there seems to be something like that for Haskell, used in all kinds of articles printing haskell code < 1438543912 472028 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :research articles < 1438543927 172218 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've seen it with C yet < 1438544022 696177 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg. for haskell, there are characters representing each of ++ -> <- :: < 1438544036 372126 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and more symbol combinations that I don't remember right now < 1438544312 921942 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for completeness for C++, we need characters for >= <= == != << >> ++ -- // /* */ && || :: -> < 1438544630 600373 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: also for ... < 1438544671 856202 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: and possibly for /= *= += -= <<= >>= &= ^= |= < 1438544688 248333 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also possibly for [[ and ]] which aren't really digraphs < 1438544692 296257 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and definitely for ## < 1438544726 748186 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also definitely for -> .* ->* < 1438544743 576244 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> is very common < 1438544807 666093 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :≥≤≡≠≪≫║∷→ < 1438544839 348357 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: … < 1438544845 355150 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for logical and and or ∧ ∨ would make sense < 1438544856 804153 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I wouldn't like that, no < 1438544861 891211 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1438544864 920290 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially not with ^ < 1438544882 122570 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well obviously we would not use ^ for that < 1438544892 848276 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the better convention is to use & | circledplus for bitwise ops < 1438544910 110545 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and forget abut vee and wedge in that context < 1438544920 87601 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :⊕ < 1438544937 804122 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that < 1438544941 936262 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually have that in my font < 1438544967 151810 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438546533 313612 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1438548384 375778 :x10A94!x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438549087 909993 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1438549203 77982 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Accept = backspace / or / backspace = as an alternative to != then < 1438549566 780483 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, we're talking about Magic. < 1438549633 736022 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are spell permanents, and spell cards in hand, actually spells? < 1438549639 703052 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1438549646 102633 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only on the stack count as spells < 1438549679 275372 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you target a spell, you can only target a spell on the stack. < 1438549725 236880 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So "turn target spell face down" would necessarily act on a spell on the stack. < 1438549814 295111 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1438549955 335602 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then the rules say it would "have no characteristics other than those listed by" the thing that let you turn it face down. So if the instant just said to turn it face down, it would end up with no characteristics at all. < 1438549997 958920 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: what zzo38 says, except note that "spell" is used in a different meaning in the phrase "spell type". < 1438550025 43536 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: what? wouldn't it still be a 2/2 creature < 1438550043 192709 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it might be a 2/2 creature with a mana cost of {3} and nothing else < 1438550045 631113 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not while on the stack < 1438550049 39339 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno < 1438550052 389526 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: that only applies to permanents turned face down, not spells. < 1438550063 209704 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although you don't have to pay the mana cost in this case anyways) < 1438550073 85348 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, apparently if a permanent is turned face down, it has no mana cost. < 1438550082 71272 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, does Nix works on a face down spell? < 1438550087 658253 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1438550088 39101 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :one cast with morph specifically? < 1438550095 887075 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1438550097 980236 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I would think it works on any spell cast without paying any mana. < 1438550100 911123 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nix doesn't work like that < 1438550109 480237 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, Nix doesn't care about the mana cost or converted mana cost < 1438550109 768449 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A spell cast with morph was paid with three mana, so it can't be used < 1438550116 608772 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which conterspells care about that? < 1438550146 422202 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what happens when a spell with no characteristics and no text resolves? < 1438550148 623763 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then, there is my "Phyrexian Nix" variant < 1438550177 539528 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it go to the graveyard, and thus get turned face up again? < 1438550183 951223 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I would do, it just comes into play; if for some reason it cannot, it goes to the graveyard instead. < 1438550184 227209 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dispersal Shield < 1438550203 139821 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how does Dispersal Shield work with a spell cast face down using morph? < 1438550210 66674 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what do the rules say happens? < 1438550212 516514 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I knew I had such a counterspell) < 1438550246 51224 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: it should come to play face down as part of resolving, without getting turned face up, I think < 1438550248 765104 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know; what does that card say? < 1438550279 87302 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Dispersal Shield is an Instant with "Counter target spell if its converted mana cost is less than or equal to the highest converted mana cost among permanents you control." < 1438550284 930286 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1438550332 815327 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of those multiple cards from the Onslaught block that care about Scornful Egoist < 1438550348 847147 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scornful Egotist < 1438550755 167699 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a lot of other counterspells that care about cmc, including Disdainful Stroke; Disrupting Shoal; Induce Paranoia; Overwhelming Intellect; Prohibit; Rethink; Spell Burst; Spell Blast (wow, it has remainder text for cmc, they're finally starting to put SANE remainder text on cards, great!); Thoughtbind. < 1438550794 479723 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most famous such counterspell is probably Mana Drain. < 1438550932 730338 :rodgort!~rodgort@105.ip-167-114-152.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1438551135 836494 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1438551246 31996 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1438551269 527362 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1438551386 577513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1438551551 902192 :rodgort!~rodgort@2607:5300:100:200::160d JOIN :#esoteric < 1438552686 370934 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huge thuderstorm here. my power's probably going to go out < 1438552709 508876 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren, good luck < 1438552723 562771 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those bloody incompetents at toronto hydro can't waterproof anything < 1438552743 355601 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYZ < 1438552743 768124 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 022151Z 22013G51KT 210V300 5SM +TSRA FEW009 BKN026CB OVC250 18/14 A2976 RMK SF2CB4CI2 FRQ LTGIC ALQDS WSHFT 2143 PRESFR SLP078 DENSITY ALT 1200FT < 1438552775 95247 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gusting 51 knots! crazy < 1438552781 324309 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-27-215.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1438552803 419376 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooow < 1438552834 447061 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren, the highest the weather station I use has ever seen was 62 knots < 1438552843 798300 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that was... last year < 1438553016 575324 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has settleed down a little < 1438553046 383309 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's down to a drizzle. < 1438553191 218503 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my power could still go out, when the water sinks into the earth and fucks up the cables < 1438553211 460556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i haven't looked at the blitzersomething site in a while < 1438553260 569369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :blitzortung < 1438553309 419775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh they have a world map now < 1438553354 988325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something's definitely happening in the lakes area < 1438553355 401071 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is that? < 1438553363 589326 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the thundermap thing < 1438553432 846927 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it disconnected < 1438554025 535174 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making a new font. I'm up to the capital E with diarhea < 1438554048 656560 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dieareses < 1438554059 135588 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck I can't spell that bullshit < 1438554082 686265 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :diaeresis < 1438554163 745928 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I'm making a new font. I'm up to the capital E with diarhea < 1438554169 485762 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1251) I'm making a new font. I'm up to the capital E with diarhea < 1438554219 650173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let this be a warning to other fontomaniacs < 1438554265 652036 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1438554271 44114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what the distinction is between SO shachaf and shachaf. < 1438554278 699799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're the same person hth < 1438554311 353488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're just shachaf. the other one is SO shachaf. hth. < 1438554312 216796 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also http://slbkbs.org/sb/1.png is my picture almost everywhere. I'm not sure why you picked SO. < 1438554313 908916 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, SO shachaf is unbelievably shachaf. He is so shachaf I can't even handle how shachaf he is < 1438554343 925741 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: easiest to find at a moment's notice? < 1438554346 37053 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the number 8 should formally be decomposable as o with ring above < 1438554360 577128 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use http://slbkbs.org/yawg-prime.png at work so I don't confuse different accounts. < 1438554412 341437 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit more professional. < 1438554437 42947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er... < 1438554444 791364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION skeptical
< 1438554460 127885 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I don't see why < 1438554466 65122 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a really professional picture < 1438554490 591808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's a bit spotty < 1438554501 919185 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a yo dawg. < 1438554520 30206 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...ah < 1438554524 370239 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I am going to go to bed now < 1438554546 372330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :say hi to the monster < 1438554660 48223 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, the monster quit a while back due to unworkable conditions < 1438554680 660923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1438554753 63977 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which really days tell me that I ought to tidy my room < 1438554795 824566 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :figures < 1438555067 332606 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1438555264 505241 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/output | grep Summary < 1438555266 332236 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1438555274 348344 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/output < 1438555275 570654 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :changeset: 3516:086a7a03de20 \ user: HackBot \ date: Wed Aug 28 21:11:30 2013 +0000 \ summary: touch wisdom/output < 1438555280 827610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log wisdom/output | grep summary < 1438555282 498 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary: touch wisdom/output < 1438555286 658538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1438555310 757458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/output < 1438555312 586138 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1438555324 111004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh. < 1438555357 364989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1438555365 68115 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1438555380 955233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's p. clever < 1438555426 218163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :much of the wisdom is not `wisdom-compatible < 1438555480 918018 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait. < 1438555494 614090 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was a trap set for oerjan that prints "No output." when you rm it. < 1438555497 780745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it also works with `? < 1438555537 80745 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:646:8700:3d63:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sits down and attempts not to explode
< 1438555559 99262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: too much nitroglycerin? < 1438555608 915853 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :spot of the nitroglycerin, governor? < 1438555898 76274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see you're going boom or bust with your meme < 1438555927 118910 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :please don't call it that tdnh < 1438555959 312139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mediocreme < 1438556488 299612 :rg_!~textual@ool-457c9f2d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438556490 576814 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :now why would I touch wisdom/output < 1438556533 110819 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1438556536 630783 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellolsner < 1438556796 318564 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shalomchaf < 1438556818 563842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...why have i never thought of that one. < 1438556822 134007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you have hth < 1438556841 916141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1438556864 378388 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2014-06-30#225319oerjan < 1438557038 638142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :must have been an impersonator < 1438557091 263305 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imitatørjan < 1438557156 39162 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom < 1438557157 294376 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø? < 1438557162 905991 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom < 1438557164 221617 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø? < 1438557170 105887 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1438557171 510586 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hand/A hand in the bush is better than a stoned bird. < 1438557176 642147 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1438557178 49117 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom__________hoover/OK you got me there. < 1438557193 433288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :see? another non-`wisdom compatible one. < 1438557207 553945 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1438557312 890338 :wqe23!~wqe23@2602:306:c5c1:f5e0:f00f:820b:c3f5:48ab JOIN :#esoteric < 1438557327 951479 :wqe23!~wqe23@2602:306:c5c1:f5e0:f00f:820b:c3f5:48ab PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1438557477 674488 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for n in `seq 1 3`; do u="$(perl -e "print '_' x $n")"; echo -n "$n: "; \? phantom${u}hoover; done < 1438557479 201080 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1: Phantom Michael Hoover is a true Scotsman, hatheist, and completely out of the loop. \ 2: Phantom__Hoover can't decide what an appropriate number of underscores is. \ 3: Phantom___Hoover sucks at ghosting himself. < 1438557481 33939 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for n in `seq 4 6`; do u="$(perl -e "print '_' x $n")"; echo -n "$n: "; \? phantom${u}hoover; done < 1438557482 465537 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4: phantom____hoover? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ \ 5: phantom_____hoover? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ \ 6: phantom______hoover? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1438557485 823412 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for n in `seq 7 9`; do u="$(perl -e "print '_' x $n")"; echo -n "$n: "; \? phantom${u}hoover; done < 1438557487 263870 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :7: It doesn't get any better than this. \ 8: phantom________hoover? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ \ 9: phantom_________hoover? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1438557488 823987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` for n in `seq 10 12`; do u="$(perl -e "print '_' x $n")"; echo -n "$n: "; \? phantom${u}hoover; done < 1438557490 733419 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10: OK you got me there. \ 11: phantom___________hoover? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ \ 12: phantom____________hoover? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1438557637 37626 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now I have the characters from ASCII and Latin-1 < 1438557663 292790 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll take a break, then add Greek and Katakana < 1438557679 371813 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and all the DF characters < 1438557835 106579 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah gotta get cp-437 as soon as possible < 1438557865 765977 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: you have those characters in what? < 1438557870 373945 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: are you making a font? < 1438557871 612163 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my font < 1438557873 821667 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :great! < 1438557875 480912 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1438557889 37169 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold on I'll screenshot < 1438557895 226059 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already have all of cp-437 and iso-8859-1 in my font, those were in my original goal < 1438558002 263437 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also have all of iso-8859-2, cp-1252 (new version), cp-1250 (new version), and I think I also might have all of iso-8859-4, iso-8859-15, iso-8859-16 (which is actually covered by a union of the previous ones) but I'm not quite sure < 1438558040 538150 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I even have glyphs for all the control characters in iso-8859-1, though those don't display in terminal windows :-) < 1438558055 533919 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, I only have a few of greek, and no Katakana < 1438558075 861819 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the greek is very ugly, I added it only to see maths formulas a bit < 1438558141 141240 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/screen1.png < 1438558162 520116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you do greek, make sure to be able to spell διάῤῥοια properly twh < 1438558222 142480 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems I have all of latin-1 but not all of Windows-1252 < 1438558223 241664 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, that looks nice. can you also show a screenshot with some longer text in a natural language? < 1438558250 836288 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah hold on I'll screenshot this < 1438558300 221946 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that all printable cp-1252 characters shown? < 1438558316 269083 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/screen3.png < 1438558323 157731 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this font looks nice < 1438558326 426917 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but I'm apparently missing a lot < 1438558343 741734 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice and of distinguishable characters < 1438558407 231997 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 has a stroke and 1 has a tick, the way I write them < 1438558448 389997 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should put up a sane screenshot of my font and link it < 1438558455 529734 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently all I have is http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/fecupboard20-cp437.png < 1438558504 345837 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/stickfont-screenshot0.png of a different old font, one that's for crazy decorative headings rather than for body text) < 1438558508 842597 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a compromise by shrinking the capitals to make room for their accents < 1438558533 954146 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blackboard bold, nice < 1438558674 777126 :tromp!~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1438558685 214002 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so what should I put in the screenshot(s)? I'll certainly put http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/versw , then maybe http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/verst and its English original so there's English text too. But I also need some way to list many characters, such as all cp437 or all cp1250 etc. What encodings? Should I show literally all glyphs in unicode order? < 1438558711 584590 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1438558717 483896 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellu < 1438558736 101646 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I might want to show some program code too. What's a good example of C code I can show? < 1438558755 152850 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have developed a spontaneous interest in quantum computing < 1438558763 403326 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oh dear < 1438558764 200644 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And will now proceed to talk about it incessantly < 1438558770 450799 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1438558781 878783 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :After I figure out how the hell quantum physics works < 1438558790 109579 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix not < 1438558793 841447 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1438558805 55035 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So < 1438558806 514591 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend reading some books on the subject < 1438558821 367358 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not done so, however, so... < 1438558831 593598 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know anything about it < 1438558837 771571 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured out that this non-esolang I started designing a while back would be particularly useful in QC < 1438558857 28733 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you can, effectively, _define_ kewords < 1438558859 951485 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of like in haskell < 1438558861 919180 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I don't think I like the "ð" in your font < 1438558883 39206 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So one could make an easy operation for quantum logic gates < 1438558886 30739 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I'm not saying I know how to improve it < 1438558895 55584 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh < 1438558898 775655 :hppavilion[1]!423ae75d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.231.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is someone making a font? < 1438558920 717732 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: this one looks more like a reversed delta to me < 1438558938 669811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i predict that your talk will not be able to stay coherent hth < 1438558944 601505 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: oren is, http://www.orenwatson.be/screen3.png http://www.orenwatson.be/screen1.png < 1438558961 729558 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, that's a HORRIBLE pun < 1438559037 903674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION bows
< 1438559097 437549 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: is "—" from your font or substituted? it looks too similar to "-" < 1438559143 98750 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should shorten my hyphen-minus < 1438559190 479296 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah then it wouldn't look the same as my em-dash < 1438559233 327075 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I consider "-" the most important (mostly because it occurs a lot in program code), so I don't make compromises about it. I have a bulge under "–" and two bulges under "—". "‐" is short but two pixels thick. < 1438559320 61506 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also have distinguishable glyphs for "‒" and "−" and "­" < 1438559349 285338 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I for one think "-" should be long, but it's your choice of course. < 1438559381 426453 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1438559411 129182 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm bumps would work < 1438559425 448516 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe I'll just change the height slightly < 1438559446 425518 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I find your "¼½¾" hard to read. what if you made the slash thinner or removed it entirely to allow for the digits to be bigger? < 1438559474 905576 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I also have a glyphs that's a hyphen with a dot over or under it, but I don't recall which character it was. Let me check. < 1438559531 967686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let type S = (Num n) => State n < 1438559532 790376 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:156:21: < 1438559532 844588 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expecting one more argument to ‘State n’ < 1438559532 898961 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected a type, but ‘State n’ has kind ‘* -> *’ < 1438559550 854950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1438559565 992104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it wasn't the library type < 1438559576 18077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let type S = (Num n) => [n] < 1438559576 896274 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:156:10: Warning: < 1438559577 20939 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Variable ‘n’ is implicitly quantified due to a context < 1438559577 75239 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Use explicit forall syntax instead. < 1438559588 766889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it's just a warning < 1438559601 301307 :Froox!~Frooxius@50.141.35.11 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1438559605 165674 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm no, I don't have just a glyph. maybe I had one in a previous version. < 1438559725 945670 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could show all characters in my font in rows of 16 unicode characters, with the code before each row. that would identify each character (except possibly missing characters, which I'll have to mark somehow, maybe with a blue middle dot or something). < 1438559885 369457 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, I'll figure this screenshot thing out later. Good night for now. < 1438559927 190644 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1438559928 537336 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And good luck with your font, oren.