< 1440029491 3928 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ox0dea: printing them out doesn't compress newlines very well at all hth < 1440029504 19058 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that guy looks immensely scandinavian < 1440029858 711363 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phellontom_Hoover. what makes you say that? < 1440030064 962074 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe his bag of bones hands? < 1440030143 381272 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You're right, but A4 paper can fit 842 lines at 1pt. < 1440030166 934560 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My largest Whitespace program only contains 211 lines. < 1440030199 812297 :mauris__!~mauris@c-67-191-112-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, is there some way to download the entire wiki? < 1440030229 339053 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris__: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Exporting_all_the_files_of_a_wiki < 1440030295 636974 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also his baggy eyes < 1440030368 202333 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although baggy eyes are also common among slavs < 1440030368 413658 :mauris__!~mauris@c-67-191-112-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, whence the 'u' in 'mjukvaruproblem'? < 1440030478 921808 :mauris__!~mauris@c-67-191-112-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net NICK :mauris < 1440030484 823751 :mauris!~mauris@c-67-191-112-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1440030484 877940 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1440030607 511028 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helooodl. you're Swedish? < 1440030657 675364 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general though that dude is pale and thin and looks like he's never had a tan. so he has to be from somewhere up north... < 1440030730 296792 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: as an Up North person, do you corroborate oren's assertion? < 1440030781 417551 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'd ask you, but I fear you're an Even More Up North Like Really North You Wouldn't Believe How Far North person. < 1440030901 214095 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: jag har b?rjat l?ra mig lite svenska, men inte v?ldigt allvarligt. < 1440030975 652349 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pretty language! i like the rhythm. i have absolutely no connection to sweden < 1440030975 900513 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you ain't Swedish! your question marks lack umlauts! < 1440031145 914367 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AIUI, oerjan was north of me even back when I was living in Finland. < 1440031158 819823 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i guess to make a really good Huffman dictionary, you need a large corpus of which commands are most common < 1440031193 172507 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: yes < 1440031200 65165 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: That doesn't seem like the sort of thing you'd need a heuristic for, though. < 1440031202 716184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but even a reasonably bad Huffman dictionary is still often decent < 1440031209 617045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can use some sort of adaptive huffman < 1440031349 750281 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, I love the edit summary on http://esolangs.org/wiki/International_Esolang_Design_Competition < 1440031355 821040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we keep this page around just for the history < 1440031373 949269 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i originally wanted to do something like this for gs2. currently all commands are a byte, but i was planning on like, having some of them be 5 bits, some 10, etc < 1440031392 492021 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :however i didn't feel comfortable just making up numbers for the frequencies :( < 1440031404 337029 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus huffman codes don't look very easily extendable? < 1440031715 767793 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: I don't speak Swedish all that much/well. But I think the special noun forms (including last-vowel elision/mutation) used as "modifiers" are probably remnants from something or other. At any rate, it happens. vara -> varuhus, hälsa -> hälsofarlighet. < 1440031736 527315 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1440031773 852067 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie, whence the 'u' in 'mjukvaruproblem'? <-- swedish seems to do that when forming compounds with -a nouns (originally weak feminine ones), i think it's from the old norse genitive, see e.g. the more well-preserved icelandic declension https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/vara#Noun_5 < 1440031894 858025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: as an Up North person, do you corroborate oren's assertion? <-- only for geeks i think, everyone else seems to have a tan these days. in my youth i occasionally tried, sometimes with catastrophic results. < 1440031905 503551 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Sometimes they drop the vowel. ficka -> ficktjuv. < 1440031931 358663 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm.. the furthest north place I've been in Canada is RouynNoranda which has the same latitude as, like, Paris. Europe's climate is bullshit < 1440032111 102746 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: AAAAAAAAAAAH! < 1440032119 872996 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fungot where you doing in Rouin? < 1440032119 948892 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no wonder you're a bored college guy, you know < 1440032128 251158 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/in/yn/ < 1440032137 120 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I don't go to college anymore. I got bored. < 1440032137 207917 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: last time i checked lisppaste is at http://www.common-lisp.net/ paste/ results/ fnord this year and i might < 1440032147 315454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION cannot look at the word "varuhus" without thinking about Karl-Bertil Jonssons julafton
< 1440032178 948376 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I was wtching fireworks wiht my dad and my uncle? < 1440032225 783573 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really remember the reasons we were there < 1440032243 409982 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than my dad grew up there < 1440032243 961236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Jag har skänkt lite glädje åt dessa olyckliga som inte äger något varuhus") < 1440032273 567564 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: good reason. so you're half Québécois? < 1440032287 493595 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://goo.gl/maps/X8BWi is probably about the northest I've been. I don't recall where exactly we went on another Lapland trip. < 1440032294 802915 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like a quarter. < 1440032314 649737 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my grandma is from Enlgand < 1440032341 170254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i suppose i have no real idea why norwegian sometimes inserts an -s- (old genitive too) and sometimes doesn't. < 1440032353 143364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or an -e- < 1440032381 771125 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/lg/gl/ < 1440032405 965443 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a quarterbécois, then. < 1440032409 209378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION laughs and points at oren from the gulf stream
< 1440032410 699271 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1440032487 965285 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you guys ever used lex/yacc? < 1440032491 521431 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've got a quick question < 1440032498 850057 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have < 1440032523 875507 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you halp meh? \o/ < 1440032524 235810 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                     | < 1440032524 363105 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                     >\ < 1440032527 453513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has looked at it, but possibly not used...
< 1440032532 180694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I've used it < 1440032536 954893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and know quite a lot about yacc < 1440032537 955529 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1440032538 367015 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  | < 1440032538 469918 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 /`\ < 1440032550 951511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes ais523 is writing a replacement < 1440032565 216401 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm myndzi has a bigger dick in my font < 1440032575 141856 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1440032586 683993 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd rather not receive dicks from myndzi anymore -_- < 1440032596 535325 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i need help to parse something like this < 1440032601 852716 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this is a string" < 1440032615 483428 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: with escape syntax and all that? < 1440032617 901609 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :"inside strings we can embed brackets( )" < 1440032621 851085 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1440032636 971243 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :(do you call those parentheses or brackets?) < 1440032641 315393 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see < 1440032643 209299 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :(parentheses? ok) < 1440032650 937030 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( and ) are normally called parentheses, to distinguish them from [ and ] < 1440032656 462668 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ok) < 1440032665 666162 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although all of ( ) [ ] can probably legitimately be called brackets < 1440032678 399668 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you normally see "parenthesis" or "paren" among programmers for disambiguation purposes < 1440032687 112127 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with "square bracket" used for [ and ] if it needs to be unambiguous) < 1440032693 787467 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I call () round brackets, [] square brackets, {} curly brackets < 1440032696 931111 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok ok < 1440032704 280263 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the part inside these (parentheses) is a different quoting context" < 1440032720 842307 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i can have something like this: "foo ( "bar baz" ) bat" < 1440032745 36484 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and inside parenteses you can have other nested parentheses < 1440032752 863500 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have to match "foo( )bar( )baz" < 1440032753 694904 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope you understand < 1440032766 545649 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so start by mtahing "foo" < 1440032775 960792 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then match "bar( < 1440032784 162416 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: DRAFT CHICKEN < 1440032785 125684 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and )baz" < 1440032794 22096 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and )xyzzy( < 1440032800 52267 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :each as separate tokens < 1440032804 338995 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kinda hard, i'm a beginner < 1440032823 243454 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah it looks like $( ) in shell script < 1440032839 573794 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if you know what i mean < 1440032878 501331 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so parse "foo( )baz" as a STRING_ENDING_IN_ROUND_BRACKET followed by a STRING_STARTING_WITH_ROUND_BRACKET < 1440032900 169046 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY_ARE_WE_SCREAMING < 1440032911 101766 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I actually like oren's solution < 1440032911 307578 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.< < 1440032927 293836 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also because terminals in yacc are uppercase by convention < 1440032929 324290 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOKEN_NAMES_ARE_IN_SNAKE_CPAS_BY_CONVENTION < 1440032994 650253 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok lemme try and i'll report back my progresses < 1440032997 346616 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you for the hint < 1440033587 925373 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440033633 755115 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Are you trying to use regular expressions to parse a recursive grammar? < 1440033677 695087 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying to parse a recursive grammar, yes < 1440033718 372830 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know the limitations of regex < 1440033774 559519 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1440033868 309059 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why the "foo( "bar" )baz" each have to be separate tokens < 1440034065 610997 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ox0dea: we're trying to parse a recursive grammar using tools that are intended to parse recursive grammars < 1440034081 847857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that it's one that doesn't have a simple lexing/parsing divide < 1440034168 91712 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-170-31-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1440034209 884039 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1440034391 577007 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-170-31-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440034763 611593 :dorei!~n_i_l@ppp141255043161.access.hol.gr QUIT : < 1440034809 766968 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1440034831 120383 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440035341 580168 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, wow i see you found my SO question < 1440035383 22888 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/q/32106435 ? < 1440035388 74257 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was SO difficult < 1440035421 191912 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the one < 1440035462 621163 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should go hack at that some more. maybe i can bring out the -XTypeSynonymInstances or something terrifying like that < 1440035599 728344 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :wowowow, -XNewtypeDeriving?? < 1440035816 112083 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ajrhpjklmxwmrako JOIN :#esoteric < 1440036003 449093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean GeneralizedNewtypeDeriving < 1440036038 93975 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, this is even more magic < 1440036067 363986 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now i just try to list every typeclass that exists on earth in this `deriving (...)`?? < 1440036078 784853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1440036137 967909 :mauris_!~mauris@c-67-191-112-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440036150 796714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :GenerousNewtypeDeriving < 1440036363 771084 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think mauris's SO picture beats us both in lifelikeness hth < 1440036366 529684 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1440036459 917342 :mauris_!~mauris@c-67-191-112-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net NICK :mauris < 1440036467 725388 :mauris!~mauris@c-67-191-112-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1440036467 779734 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1440036468 583364 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera NICK :Mode < 1440036476 771220 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok I changed my cgi script to ouput a mtime so that things will be cached < 1440036480 442755 :Mode!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera NICK :izabera < 1440036533 668525 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :deriving (Bounded, Enum, Eq, Foldable, Fractional, Functor, Integral, Monoid, Num, Ord, Read, Real, RealFrac, Show, Traversable) < 1440036611 801048 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is silly. i want to derive (*) < 1440036612 997716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't forget Applicative hth < 1440036640 77092 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly i need to write that one myself because it has fancy constraints < 1440036660 871486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: mauris thinks Monoid is fancy < 1440036692 299268 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are options for "deriving" pluggable? or do they have to be built into the compiler? < 1440036707 567667 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: monoids are so easy hth < 1440036718 17240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: they're pluggable with the new DeriveAnyClass extension < 1440036724 827828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Sort of. < 1440036732 749111 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're pretty limited in the instances you can derive with that. < 1440036758 910414 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monoids < 1440036760 685209 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoids are the easy version of categories. < 1440036766 336882 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :so easy < 1440036767 993004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monoid < 1440036768 815060 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoids are just categories with a single object. < 1440036771 732651 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, what is hard < 1440036828 210306 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :math. let's go shopping. < 1440036847 117124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks shopping is harder
< 1440036854 434312 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shopping is pretty hard < 1440036857 779324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but so is math < 1440036862 68727 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shopping is hard. Let's go mathing. < 1440036929 289094 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :niiiice < 1440036930 806665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk: do you have anything equivalent to newtype Const3 a b c = Const3 { getConst3 :: a } , twh < 1440036938 711828 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Const3 is reducing basically every instance to monoids < 1440036940 56699 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is so easy < 1440036954 655050 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :(such as Category!!) < 1440036969 764889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh Category too? < 1440036976 622988 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :make sense i guess < 1440036981 881343 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :instance Monoid m => Category (Const3 m) where < 1440036982 94162 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric : id = Const3 mempty < 1440036982 148430 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric : Const3 x . Const3 y = Const3 (mappend x y) < 1440036982 709923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*makes < 1440037012 357984 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is hard though: checking applicative laws < 1440037014 28327 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not the "category with one object" thing, though. < 1440037084 362938 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1440037086 44294 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm, i guess it isn't < 1440037087 328917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well it's equivalent to it, maybe < 1440037099 454694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you take the skeleton < 1440037100 415714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, it has a whole bunch of different objects < 1440037100 969833 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440037124 572937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, equivalent in that sense < 1440037153 165367 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds plausible < 1440037161 440908 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the arrows between two different objects? < 1440037163 882891 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Taking skeletons is illegal in many jurisdictions. < 1440037172 480001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: you have Applicative and Category, so you should have Arrow hth < 1440037241 509244 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i'm looking for more (k -> k -> *) -> Constraint thingies, arrow sounds easy < 1440037266 591562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm i'm wondering... < 1440037289 799064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k Kleisli (Writer Int) < 1440037291 70665 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :* -> * -> * < 1440037337 211990 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait no < 1440037340 423671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's silly < 1440037589 17908 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm my search seems to have hit one of zzo38's haskell packages < 1440037605 26410 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1440037617 685169 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too late to back out now < 1440037620 917718 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440037662 678258 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nice, which < 1440037669 954093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it isn't, also it doesn't seem relevant. https://hackage.haskell.org/package/monoidplus-0.1.0.1/docs/Data-Monoid-Plus.html < 1440037734 489828 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PART #esoteric :"WeeChat 1.2" < 1440038634 628757 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Profunctor is one thing < 1440038943 372153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Bifunctor, then < 1440038973 209358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're phantom parameters, so they're both co- and contravariant all ways < 1440040344 970661 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1440043305 129596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1440043313 207948 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, if something is both covariant and contravariant < 1440043317 184104 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't that imply it isn't used at all? < 1440043322 181181 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sort of the opposite of being invariant) < 1440043584 496449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1440043756 989370 :Froox!~Frooxius@c-73-170-31-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440043961 645795 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you make ANSI music with xterm? < 1440043967 918645 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-170-31-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1440045104 532286 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-170-31-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440045265 846527 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-71-52-126-76.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1440045290 900215 :Froox!~Frooxius@c-73-170-31-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1440046229 19992 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-71-52-126-76.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440048645 544978 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1440048677 785382 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@li611-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1440048677 878598 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1440050294 779343 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just bought a laptap based primarily on it being the only one I could find over 2Kg < 1440050562 504065 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION built an ALU :) (not IRL. Using a hardware description language)
< 1440050574 256626 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it conforms to specs someone else made < 1440050574 612904 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Niiice! < 1440050695 722303 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.7 kilograms of laptop. because fuck you, macbook-air-using weaklings < 1440050758 892855 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just noticed a typo. Tests did not catch it. < 1440051698 729079 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-170-31-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1440051720 88001 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@c-73-170-31-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440052294 624843 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which operations does you alu support? < 1440052442 331091 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :& and +, with some modifiers on input and output that allow for -, |, and some other stuff < 1440052509 820901 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, it's &, +, with options to zero out the inputs, bitwise negate the inputs and bitwise negate the output. < 1440052537 627230 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bf interpreter returns 0 on EOF, what's wrong with this line? +[>,----------]+[<++++++++++.] < 1440052543 903803 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to read a line and reverse it < 1440052593 704974 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: you're running off the end of the tape going leftwards < 1440052603 747017 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren, http://nand2tetris-questions-and-answers-forum.32033.n3.nabble.com/file/n95834/alu_worksheet.pdf < 1440052614 167027 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf >,[>,]<[.<]!reverse < 1440052614 411717 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1440052615 337987 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: aaah dammit, i see < 1440052617 986027 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1440052619 983104 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf >,[>,]<[.<]!reverse < 1440052620 37401 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :esrever < 1440052628 264667 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but that doesn't stop on \n <.< < 1440052641 230536 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, but the important thing is to look at where the < signs are < 1440052647 937191 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the > signs < 1440052658 911099 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need the > at the start to give you an extra 0 at the leftmost end to stop on < 1440052662 186399 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed it ----------[>,----------]+[<++++++++++.] < 1440052664 700317 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you need the < at the end of the loop < 1440052686 454836 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise you're outputting a NUL just before the program ends < 1440052689 94804 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which looks a bit messy < 1440052693 944901 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit < 1440052697 306976 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're right < 1440052702 794166 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nand2tetris-questions-and-answers-forum.32033.n3.nabble.com/Is-the-method-used-to-make-the-Hack-ALU-an-exception-or-the-rule-td4026896.html < 1440052758 263736 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks ais523 :D < 1440052776 701857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: that's quite some URL < 1440052794 555198 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that seems to be a good approach iirc that's how the 6502 ALU works (with the ALU control bits coming from some logic on the opcode) < 1440052858 457263 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.5z8.info/how-to-build-a-bomb_a2k7om_myspace-of-sex hth < 1440052864 625549 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does mean that there's redundant functions, e.g. two ways to get x out (x&-1 and x+0) < 1440052923 303302 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you have that URL just saved up as an example of an amusing URL? < 1440052930 220199 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unsurprisingly I am not following it) < 1440052939 414848 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I got it from http://www.shadyurl.com/ < 1440052940 924756 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I doubt that can be helped, really < 1440052949 186032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a short link version of Sgeo_'s URL. < 1440052956 972554 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ah right, you have an amusing URL generator memorized instead < 1440052969 445235 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_'s is more informative, though, I think < 1440052972 158526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the existence of one memorized. < 1440052997 659244 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google amusing url generator < 1440052998 513403 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.shadyurl.com/ < 1440052998 567943 :Flonk!c274f362@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.116.243.98 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440052998 622241 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: ShadyURL - Don't just shorten your URL, make it suspicious and frightening. < 1440053016 2089 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool. I should do all my bookmarks with that < 1440053039 165752 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case, the URL is indeed shorter < 1440053120 360128 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00WBXG6ZM < 1440053173 501955 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you mean http://www.5z8.info/-php-deactivate_phishing_filter-48-_b9d7ac_nazi < 1440053212 712334 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1440053231 471890 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the previous shady URL was better < 1440053238 667502 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one just doesn't make any sense < 1440053238 976030 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway do you like the look of that laptop? < 1440053247 921343 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, is the bit before and after the hex string actually relevant?) < 1440053261 133224 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to me that such a site would be better if the hex string wasn't part of it < 1440053286 752597 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the look of the laptop is the same as any thinkpad... < 1440053359 796863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: That reminds me of when I was wondering what the best way to convert some data (say, a private key, maybe a few thousand bits?) to a form which can be memorized relatively easily. < 1440053370 143254 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't the same as this flimsy thing: < 1440053372 208266 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinkPad#/media/File:Lenovo_ThinkPad_X1_Ultrabook.jpg < 1440053383 297421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or even just a secret key, 128 or 256 bits, would be a good start. < 1440053433 476172 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well, the people who have memorization world records start by having a code for the individual things you're encoding (say nybbles in this case), mapping them onto reasonably general concepts that are distinct and memorizing that mapping < 1440053488 714230 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then they form a story which uses the concepts in the sequence that they're trying to memorize, preferably an amusing one because that's more memorable < 1440053516 337887 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the just a basic method of loci... < 1440053521 368094 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/the// < 1440053537 934139 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I'm not claiming that this is some big secret or whatever < 1440053555 323159 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to be decent at this a few years ago... < 1440053581 349107 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather transform the data into a form which is easy for people to remember than transform people into a form which is well-suited for memorizing data. < 1440053584 526871 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 2009 i had a national record for multiple blindfolded rubiks cube solving < 1440053636 327357 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh look my memory is so good that i had to check and it was 2010 < 1440053652 361394 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that doesn't count) < 1440053710 485830 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, um, was top 8 in the UK at the Pokémon video game championships in 2011? that's some sort of achievement < 1440053729 581367 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :impressive :P < 1440053762 581542 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think doing multiple rubik's cubes blindfolded is more impressive < 1440053779 785397 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a bunch of memorization and strategy in both, but in Pokémon, what you have to memorize doesn't change much from game to game < 1440053792 716876 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(other than things you've observed the opponent do earlier in the game, and I often forget that…) < 1440053864 659650 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was only 5 cubes and it took me 43 *minutes* < 1440053874 91146 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :by today's standards it's crap < 1440054205 449689 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at least they ended up in the right arrangement? < 1440054214 261195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt I'd be able to keep track of just the one cube while blindfolded < 1440054240 534759 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's not that hard, can you solve it? < 1440054257 398883 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440054275 915372 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort-of < 1440054278 841172 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1440054281 917960 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a couple of situations that I keep forgetting the solutions to < 1440054287 689238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one of which is fairly common) < 1440054288 259049 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know the t perm? < 1440054295 108371 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I used to be able to solve it pretty reliably < 1440054308 778426 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what "t perm" stands for / refers to, it's possible I know the concept but not by that name < 1440054329 630905 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a permutation that swaps two edges and two corners < 1440054362 223327 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, in that case I remember seeing it but don't use it < 1440054366 873221 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1440054377 106961 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know the notation? < 1440054388 493099 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :RLFBUD? < 1440054391 212057 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen multiple notations but they all use much the same language < 1440054397 344667 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RLFBUD is one I know, yes < 1440054401 483101 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok great < 1440054416 908895 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the t perm swaps the RU and LU edges, and the RFU and RBU corners < 1440054435 837199 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use that to solve the whole cube < 1440054465 331022 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and that's why it took 43 minutes :-) < 1440054469 383864 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1440054474 789173 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no solving is relatively fast < 1440054477 701482 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :memorization is slow < 1440054520 594874 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g.: let's solve an edge 3-cycle < 1440054536 641695 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :BL -> DR -> FU -> BL < 1440054546 230454 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :just random edges, doesn't matter < 1440054549 75342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you do edges first, corners first, or a bit of both? < 1440054564 333849 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :edges first, eventual parity, corners < 1440054589 734693 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh rigt < 1440054620 589326 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my "current" (as in last time I solved it) approach to parity is "try to solve most of the cube, if the parity is wrong do a sequence to fix it", but that's slow < 1440054636 317747 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1440054665 813462 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, to solve that cycle: move BL to UL without messing with UR, URF or URB (this is called a setup move), then tperm, then invert the setup move < 1440054678 53485 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :then setup DR to UL, tperm, anti-setup < 1440054687 554027 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :then setup FU to UL, tperm, anti-setup < 1440054688 83239 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, I use setup moves for top corners < 1440054691 347047 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc... < 1440054695 307122 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then my technique is from an old guide < 1440054703 544905 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which does top edges, top corners, middle edges, bottom corners, bottom edges < 1440054718 754768 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a good method for blindfolded solving < 1440054731 670888 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1440054733 635737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's parity? < 1440054737 955380 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a good method for any other purpose eitehr < 1440054738 62410 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like two edges being flipped? < 1440054744 383079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than feeling like you're making progress < 1440054762 161061 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's when you have both an odd permutation in edges and corners < 1440054762 411080 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well flipping two edges has patterns that fix it, but it's quite long < 1440054773 541074 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, both edges and corners have an odd permutation < 1440054797 237822 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I solved it top corners, top edges, middle edges, bottom corners, bottom edges. < 1440054815 109877 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but you need to keep track of the state of the cube < 1440054819 342422 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1440054826 313532 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not good for blindfolded solving. < 1440054836 771699 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :blindfolded methods do this by solving one or two pieces at a time and leaving the rest as it is < 1440054851 854575 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1440054877 286738 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :To some degree you could use the bottom edge/corner methods for the top edges and corners. < 1440054884 105537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just extra work. < 1440054908 33993 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i think most people use the fridrich method... < 1440054925 889090 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically the first two layers are built intuitively, then oll and pll with fast algorithms < 1440054953 748262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oll and pll? < 1440054958 194892 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh sorry < 1440054962 285087 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :orientation of last layer < 1440054965 508585 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :permutation of last layer < 1440054978 651276 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1440055003 700550 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka "complete the yellow face" and "complete the yellow layer" < 1440055021 587343 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been probably more than ten years since I last thought about this. < 1440055033 887502 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to start again :) < 1440055072 976870 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember that I liked how you could use the same method that you use for rotating/flipping top corners/edges for the bottom layer, as long as you did it twice, one of them in reverse. < 1440055122 533341 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes that's fun but a bit slow <.< < 1440055347 542330 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-210-253.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1440055934 43709 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1440056813 276438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, "intuitive" has a technical meaning here. < 1440056892 410748 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :all f2l "algorithms" can be derived easily with a little practice < 1440057552 378204 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1440058973 434767 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.4.235.219 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1440059469 529027 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1440059472 872146 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440060242 578451 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440060570 360187 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i derived mine using GAP (http://www.gap-system.org/) ._. < 1440060600 96164 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i can't remember them or find the code < 1440061230 178068 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1440061487 943989 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1440061651 654909 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440061820 96894 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1440062588 105092 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ajrhpjklmxwmrako QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1440064425 626826 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Undergroundmonorail 5* 10New user account < 1440065014 965199 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that probably isn't a spambot < 1440065025 188576 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more of an esoteric transport system < 1440065265 164981 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1440066150 923081 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440066429 970755 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume all of you have seen ex machina < 1440066436 827089 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose you become a billionaire for some reason < 1440066446 603043 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and buy this really large house with a huge garden < 1440066459 858163 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's not even close to ex machina but that's the idea < 1440066480 689062 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i stop phone companies to provide cell phone coverage on that area? < 1440066512 589275 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: well whether you get coverage depends mostly on whether you have line of sight to a cellphone mast < 1440066521 459213 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(range also matters but not nearly as much) < 1440066559 801183 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess you'd need to figure out which cellphone masts are visible, then find new locations for them that cover the same areas except not your garden < 1440066571 977404 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1440066574 350932 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1440066583 371211 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's easier than i thought < 1440066586 181069 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then somehow convince the people who own the land where the new locations would be to let you build cellphone masts there < 1440066591 180039 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: afair it was in the mountains, and the property was huge (wasm"we've been flying over his property for a few hours now"?) < 1440066607 57432 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/wasm/wasn't there a line like... / < 1440066609 110398 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively you could build a big metal wall around your garden to block the signals < 1440066615 921137 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the helycopter guy said something like that < 1440066634 619171 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a big metal wall would ruin the view < 1440066685 708770 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it depends on whether the view you care about is the entire surrounding countryside, or just your garden < 1440066696 39606 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the garden is big enough you wouldn't even really be able to see the wall < 1440066719 185762 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd mean to live in a prison -_- < 1440066731 110711 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a large prison is still a prison < 1440066753 165220 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, are you keeping yourself in, or the world out < 1440066761 23438 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd probably be you who had the keys to any gates in it < 1440066762 923113 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, i got it. i could build a wall around everything else < 1440066792 978043 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd laugh about people being caged < 1440066846 227277 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that equivalent? < 1440066858 174269 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wall's in the same place either way :-) < 1440066883 97044 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm. Reminds me of Aeon Flux < 1440066886 460000 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it is physically equivalent but my version is much more satisfying < 1440066901 652759 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not people being caged, I'm still on the "big garden" thread) < 1440067230 139308 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1440067244 9134 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440067545 297408 :vodkode!~vodkode@fl-71-52-126-76.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1440067817 506958 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about satellite phone coverage? < 1440067849 943532 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd need to block LOS to the satellite, or disable the satellite somehow < 1440067926 693059 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Completely unrelated, but might be of interest to some: someone told me the SIGGRAPH 2015 proceedings are available for downloading (without any ACM subscription) for a limited time ("maybe a week") at http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2809654&_sm_au_=iVV25TfRTPr0jbK6 < 1440068055 795814 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1440068078 48406 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's such a weird scale of journal publishers < 1440068103 990730 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the way from "outright evil" to "aware they probably shouldn't be that evil but it's a habit right now" to "gives the impression of genuinely trying to do the right thing, just sucks at it" < 1440068259 262832 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a scale from one to Elsevier, where would you put the ACM? < 1440068434 559853 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A paper I was involved was just published under SpringerOpen. I don't know where that fits, because it's all open-access, but it's still a part of the Springer conglomerate. < 1440068457 220959 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: probably somewhere in the middle < 1440068490 260613 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, I like the way that we both instinctively identified Elsevier as the most evil end of the scale, even if I didn' t say it) < 1440068494 531408 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They've got an "open access waiver fund" that covers the open access fees for authors in countries "classified by the World Bank as Low-income economies or Lower-middle-income economies as of September 2014, and which have a 2013 gross domestic product of less than 200 billion US dollars". I guess it's a good thing, but it's still a bit arbitrary. < 1440068544 327624 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: AFAICT the "typical" way for large conglomerates to do open-access is to work out how much people in total are willing to pay to make any given paper open access < 1440068550 326538 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then charge that, regardless of the actual cost < 1440068565 946506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard rumours that it's in the thousands of dollars range < 1440068582 683861 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was something with four digits for an IEEE journal. < 1440068587 721367 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't pay it. < 1440068598 51791 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ACM actually called some other journals out for doing this and then charging for the open-access stuff as part of a subscription bundle anyway) < 1440068693 749119 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of like that SpringerOpen just wants you to apply a CC-Attribution license to your paper instead of signing some custom dozen-page legal thing that does whatever. < 1440068732 930157 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, isn't creative commons' entire purpose to come up with correctly legally worded licenses for some specific common special licensing cases? < 1440068752 445842 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not taking advantage of that is basically arrogance, you're claiming that you have better lawyers than creative commons < 1440068799 367731 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-2-39.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1440068801 910952 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the SpringerOpen journal "my" paper is in charges $1105 (or EUR 900, or £705) per article. < 1440068847 871876 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that's less than I thought but nonetheless ridiculously high < 1440068863 411391 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cost of editing and reformatting is nonzero but not that large < 1440068883 377671 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cost of proofreading and peer review is effectively zero because they make academics do it for no pay < 1440068916 896948 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I remember there was a movement a while back to boycott publishing in the shadier-business-practice journals; IMO that doesn't make sense, the correct thing to do is to boycott peer review for them as they're basically profiting off your unpaid work) < 1440068981 14180 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's always Arxiv... < 1440069053 35092 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arxiv is a good solution to some of these problems < 1440069071 145006 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG 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:#esoteric < 1440072071 263510 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1440072091 517705 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440073371 260665 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1440073537 191330 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440073563 646074 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1440073589 660339 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1440074085 516484 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1440074248 127808 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1440074263 599169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440074417 953254 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1440075004 155497 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1440075161 253116 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1440075189 958163 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440075440 10856 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440075645 107553 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1440075682 364721 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440076027 454051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1440076039 88559 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440076935 447487 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if arxiv added a comment and rating system, limited to academics, then would we need peer review? < 1440077280 571170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1440077313 535902 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: you'd still need to encourage people to review, I think < 1440077325 554052 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1440077326 265581 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that would sort-of miss the reality of how conferences work (but maybe not journals) < 1440077708 79524 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.4.235.219 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440077834 687200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 999 < 1440077840 91967 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 999: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti < 1440077952 518486 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440078035 36533 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1440078169 332276 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440078211 902943 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1440078533 375861 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1440078970 373271 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: meeting < 1440079555 925255 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440080730 90605 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-2-39.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1440080961 1485 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: making another attempt at that meeting < 1440081072 512656 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440081320 954507 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.4.235.219 QUIT :Quit: Toodaloo < 1440081708 609946 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1440082666 747406 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: going home < 1440085002 90360 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-2-39.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1440085240 686475 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, 999 < 1440086083 314135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very millennial plot < 1440086114 847839 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1440086163 679540 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnûrd. < 1440086252 26690 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fnørd. < 1440086285 615119 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ƒท๑я∂ < 1440088925 578466 :_256Q!~toastyten@host86-174-119-230.range86-174.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1440088925 670643 :_256Q!~toastyten@host86-174-119-230.range86-174.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Changing host < 1440088925 670689 :_256Q!~toastyten@unaffiliated/256q/x-9307863 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440088992 184642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1440089547 361786 :a21!~CADD@2605:e000:36c1:5500:d63d:7eff:fe5f:1ec2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440089675 423847 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1440089917 358159 :a21!~CADD@2605:e000:36c1:5500:d63d:7eff:fe5f:1ec2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1440090653 708858 :stalem!54dbf5f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.219.245.244 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440090735 4960 :a21!~CADD@2605:e000:36c1:5500:d63d:7eff:fe5f:1ec2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440090940 678953 :a21!~CADD@2605:e000:36c1:5500:d63d:7eff:fe5f:1ec2 QUIT :Client Quit < 1440091392 468584 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:pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b01:cddb::f63 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1440099033 360430 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b01:cddb::f63 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440099342 711676 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cbtxwsgfrtutzagg JOIN :#esoteric < 1440099864 599092 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-gmbmbzqbqwrxkwju QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1440099956 330633 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-djviwmjusqitdwij JOIN :#esoteric < 1440100251 247325 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1440100427 474176 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94.224.64.77 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440101748 442030 :Loraenil!~Loraenil@37.0.123.134 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440101825 426614 :Loraenil!~Loraenil@37.0.123.134 QUIT :Client Quit < 1440102749 371879 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1440103585 956252 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily ah, the mother modem, that is swedish and hilariously wrong < 1440103586 46627 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1440104725 221734 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1440104882 449464 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94.224.64.77 QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1440105067 868345 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Undergroundmonorail14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43832 5* 03Undergroundmonorail 5* (+127) 10Created page with "I'm undergroundmonorail and I'm deeply disturbed by the fact that I can't get rid of the uppercase U in the title of this page." < 1440105098 196069 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1440105125 848103 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Undergroundmonorail14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43833&oldid=43832 5* 03Undergroundmonorail 5* (+7) 10clarity < 1440105208 889766 :TieSoul_!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:a8de:b725:78dd:9501 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440105430 948357 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1440105784 286599 :TieSoul_!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:a8de:b725:78dd:9501 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1440105793 235150 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.4.235.219 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440106226 883666 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Apparently it's a kind of a Thing in Swedish computery forums. < 1440106356 642785 :stalem!54dbf5f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.219.245.244 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1440106723 920056 :gde33|2!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1440106906 159715 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1440106919 636005 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1440107021 969451 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1440107375 646494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1440107522 427266 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1440107764 829027 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Undergroundmonorail14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43834&oldid=43833 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+14) 10EMERGENCY LIFESAVING USERPAGE EDIT < 1440111472 181447 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1440112867 651284 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1440112901 915548 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1440113912 313899 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric