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Which nobody but me follows, as far as I know.) 00:12:32 Namely: a line containing an opening bracket should have the same indentation level as the line containing the corresponding closing bracket. 00:13:13 where clauses make all indentation stuff so confusing to me 00:13:46 I'd move the opening bracket after a where clause onto a separate line. 00:13:49 Just my own personal whim. 00:16:25 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 00:24:30 -!- boily has joined. 00:45:32 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 00:56:31 wboily 01:14:36 boiljan 01:43:15 the best goodnightmanteau is the one you can hear. 01:43:23 -!- boily has quit (Quit: SCREAMT CHICKEN). 01:43:36 oerjan: what do you think of lenses + subtyping 01:45:32 nothing hth 01:57:28 -!- copumpkin has joined. 02:10:10 -!- copumpkin has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 02:16:42 I've now added the first 160 characters of latin extended additional 02:18:14 http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm 02:18:30 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:18:54 Good neverywight! 02:19:43 オヤスミナサイ 02:21:53 oren: i forget, are you actually from .be 02:22:00 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 02:27:33 So you have (B -> A, B -> A -> A) this is a familiar structure hth <-- does it have a name? 02:29:01 * oerjan notes that freefall's archive is a bit out of maintenance 02:29:49 yes hth 02:31:12 oren is from the great belgium of canada 02:31:58 wow cruel, at least give me a hint ;-; 02:32:29 i'm fully prepared for it to be something extremely obvious 02:32:31 hint: it is still visible in my irc window 02:32:46 ahh. 02:33:27 it's the old pre-functorize-everything representation 02:59:38 I'm in canada 03:00:56 oerjan: what do you think of optics as natural isomorphisms twh 03:02:33 oren: quebec? 03:08:16 nothing hth 03:16:01 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:29:26 Toronto 03:31:16 So 03:31:24 Back to the subject of an EsOS 03:32:27 also I now cover all of Latin Extended Additional 03:32:45 * hppavilion[1] applauds Oren 03:32:58 oren: How are you making the font? What program are you using? 03:33:51 fontstruct.com 03:34:57 http://fontstruct.com/fontstructions/show/630397 03:35:32 now up to 2535 characyters, holy crap 03:38:32 I'm ranked 19th on the site by number of charatcers 03:39:39 oren: what's the license? 03:39:45 oh nvm it's listed 03:40:44 my thesis got approved \o/ 03:40:44 | 03:40:45 >\ 03:40:53 NICE 03:45:40 who aproves theses? 03:49:20 well, I guess professors do? 04:01:28 -!- MDude has changed nick to MDream. 04:07:22 -!- grotewold has quit (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 04:10:30 Whatever ideas I have had about programming language to make rules and cards of Magic: the Gathering and possibly other card games, what is your opinion of these things and other idea about how it would work your ideas? 04:27:13 oren: a reading committee of three professors, two of whom don't understand the thesis and one of whom is biased 04:27:16 :P 04:27:19 -!- copumpkin has joined. 04:27:28 -!- copumpkin has quit (Client Quit). 04:28:45 http://fontstruct.com is cooooooooooooooooool 04:29:13 I'm making a duospace font 04:29:42 duospace? 04:30:22 It's like monospace 04:30:29 But it has two possible widths 04:30:48 Because I made it width 3 for monospace 04:30:52 Then I got to m 04:30:59 well, M 04:31:06 oh 04:31:16 I may have to make it _tri_space for m 04:31:17 right, and there's ideographs 04:31:30 My new goal in life is to beat Oren 04:31:33 so unicode basically requires at least two sizes (and indeed, many "monospace" fonts are) 04:31:37 ideographs? 04:31:45 Ah 04:34:04 I'll probably develop a kewl monospace programming typeface later on 04:34:15 yah, I don't have any double width characters yet. but eventually I will 04:36:31 Why is my goal in life to beat someone I've never met at font character numbers? 04:36:37 WHAT AM I DOING WITH MY LIFE? 04:36:44 awesome stuff? 04:36:47 Ah 04:36:50 Of course 04:36:51 Right 04:37:15 Duh 04:37:47 anyway, it didn't take me that much actual time to do this, i basically only work on it a few hours every month or so 04:38:23 like I don't remember doing anyhting with it last week 04:38:30 [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * 8086 * New user account 04:39:27 did you ever crash bash? http://www.crashbash.co.nz/crash-bash-2015/ 04:39:38 My fonting is awful xD 04:39:46 I made a fontain of death 04:40:04 I should get back to my Alg. II homework 04:41:22 Or not 04:41:47 ah homework. I am so gald to be out of school and thus KNOW when I am supposed to be working and not 04:42:37 Alg II? is that algorithms or algebra 04:44:24 or Algae ? 04:47:12 Algebrae 04:47:22 *Algebraethms 04:47:24 Welcome to Algae II. In this course, a continuation of Algae I, we'll move from the basic biology of algae to the modern algae industry, including modern algae farming 04:47:43 Of course, between Algae II and Algae I, there was Dogs 04:48:09 Naturally 04:49:43 Because for some reason Geometry is interspersed between Algebra I and II 04:49:45 Get it? 04:49:49 Uh 04:50:01 * hppavilion[1] shifts uncomfortably 04:50:21 I see... that's weird. I had Algebra I and II right in a row 04:50:26 Huh 04:50:57 At least under the McDougal Littell textbooks, we take Geometry between Algebras I and II 04:51:00 Algebra II wasn't required for Comp sci but I took it anyway 04:51:03 Or is it Algebrae? 04:51:04 No 04:51:16 Algebra is... uh... 04:51:32 Middle eastern... Arabic! It's arabic! Not Greek/Latin/etc. 04:51:48 I'm taking it because it's the next thing 04:51:56 I'm one of the only two freshmen in the class xD 04:52:04 Which was a nice ego boost 04:52:17 Algebrim? 04:52:25 Algebrin? 04:52:30 something like that 04:52:30 Algebrawalfijaoisea 04:52:58 ?sarbeglA 04:53:03 Unknown command, try @list 04:53:10 Whoops 04:53:14 Forgot about Lambdabot 04:54:59 the only arabic plural I know is mujahidin 04:55:25 from some news site or somthing 04:55:58 it means "jihad fighter" 04:57:24 Shouldn't it be "fighters" 04:57:32 Or was that the reason you said that 04:57:42 To lure me into a trap where you get to explain stuff to me 05:00:00 yah 05:00:09 i forgot the s 05:00:45 oren, what's with the s in your font? 05:01:01 it is the way I write an s 05:01:14 Oh 05:01:21 It was to make it monspacier 05:01:25 *monospacier 05:01:32 * hppavilion[1] corrects a made-up word 05:02:24 I would want, to make a few new kind of signals for use with Linux, such as: SIGMEM (ignored by default), SIGOOM (terminate by default), SIGCONF (restart by default), SIGRESET (restart by default). 05:02:42 You can then use SIGMEM and SIGOOM for purpose with OOM-killer 05:05:08 I may at some point make a version with a curvier s 05:06:32 algebra may be originally arabic, but the -a at the end is certainly latin. 05:07:34 so algebrae then 05:10:12 -!- Wright has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 05:10:31 -!- Wright has joined. 05:12:32 (Maybe SIGOOM should terminate with a core dump by default) 05:13:37 prolly yeah. 05:23:55 -!- mauris has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 05:31:58 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: nioj/). 05:33:07 no 05:33:22 you can't assume memory to process a core dump 05:42:43 If a core dump is impossible it does not produce a core dump; the man page says that is always the case regardless of reason 05:56:54 oren: the mathematical z looks weird to me 05:57:40 what the hell is it supposed to look like? 06:09:23 -!- impomatic_ has quit (Quit: http://corewar.co.uk). 06:10:06 -!- Wright has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 06:24:30 i just tested oren's bfim.c with tcc -run 06:24:43 it takes 2 minutes to run Mandelbrot.b 06:26:59 the cutoff in rdebath's tests is 80s 07:02:15 -!- x10A94 has joined. 07:14:58 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 07:31:58 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 08:00:19 [wiki] [[Language list]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43902&oldid=43841 * 81.156.87.102 * (+14) Added Fourier 08:39:24 -!- Patashu has joined. 08:53:35 -!- impomatic_ has joined. 09:01:59 -!- Trioxin2 has joined. 09:08:48 -!- ski has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 09:09:58 -!- ski has joined. 09:12:23 -!- Trioxin has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 09:30:45 [wiki] [[User:Beta-Decay]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43903 * Beta-Decay * (+134) First edit 09:37:52 izabera: 21.7 seconds on my system when compiled with GCC. 09:46:45 -!- x10A94 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:47:16 -!- x10A94 has joined. 09:48:09 [wiki] [[Fourier]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43904&oldid=43898 * Beta-Decay * (+457) 09:58:07 -!- impomatic_ has quit (Quit: http://corewar.co.uk). 10:01:52 [wiki] [[Fourier]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43905&oldid=43904 * Beta-Decay * (+242) 10:18:16 -!- Walpurgisnacht has joined. 10:21:31 [wiki] [[Fourier]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43906&oldid=43905 * Beta-Decay * (+342) 10:24:14 [wiki] [[Fourier]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43907&oldid=43906 * Beta-Decay * (-46) /* Example */ 10:26:11 -!- boily has joined. 10:51:23 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 10:53:33 -!- FreeFull has joined. 10:56:38 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 10:56:38 -!- myndzi has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 10:56:38 -!- skarn has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 10:57:04 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 11:01:57 -!- myndzi has joined. 11:06:33 -!- skarn has joined. 11:09:59 -!- gamemanj has joined. 11:22:14 -!- boily has quit (Quit: UNDERCURRENT CHICKEN). 11:38:10 -!- gamemanj has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 11:42:24 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 11:43:52 -!- x10A94 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 11:44:21 -!- x10A94 has joined. 11:45:54 oren: I'm looking at http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm from another machine with another browser, and it's still subpixel antialiased, as if it's shifted horizontally by a partial pixel. 11:46:01 Let me try to work that around. 11:49:21 Temporarily disabling subpixel aliasing globally has "fixed" it. 11:49:40 o 11:49:48 pick a regular die with 6 faces, 4 are green and 2 are blue 11:50:08 roll it 20 times 11:50:14 The entire Die is yellow 11:50:20 not it's not 11:50:29 ok 11:50:30 without doing any specific calculation, tell me which of these sequences is more likely to appear: 11:50:51 1. BGBBB 2. GBGBBB 3. GBBBBB 11:51:22 2 11:51:27 ok 11:51:39 2 is G followed by 1 11:51:59 yes 11:52:29 oren: also, it seems as if you've added some characters to the font or the demo 11:53:05 let me see the details 11:53:09 But its added colour to bgbbb gives it a statistically higher chance to roll in that sequence among the 20 rolls 11:53:33 Its also a gut feeling 11:53:44 it requires G to appear right before 1 11:53:58 Actually I could paint a d6 to that colour scheme and see what happens 11:54:23 to bad all I have is a d100 11:54:34 oren: ah, I see you've redrawn the l-caron and d-caron 11:56:50 oren: \x{174} seems to have the wrong accent 11:57:40 oren: oh, I see you've added the Welsh letters 11:58:53 oren: the new lowercase eth seems better, thanks 12:01:42 oren: also, I see you've added the vietnamese characters in the \x{1e00} block (such as o with hook) too 12:14:01 -!- Walpurgisnacht has quit (Quit: Fuck me). 12:14:12 oren: I see you've changed the k-commabelow, l-commabelow, n-commabelow, and the lowercase g-commaabove. But the capital G-commabelow looks odd, because it's not tall enough. 12:14:23 -!- FreeFull has quit (Quit: BBS). 12:18:37 it looks like you fixed the y-circumflex and the z-caron 12:20:37 -!- tromp_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 12:21:19 -!- tromp__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 12:26:08 -!- FreeFull has joined. 12:29:41 oren: I think the Euro sign looks strange and doesn't really match the rest of your font. 12:32:27 yeah I did 12:32:33 good morning 12:34:21 The euro does need work now I look at it\ 12:34:34 -!- Patashu has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 12:35:11 I also reduced the space between the to lines of the =, I agree it looks better 12:36:15 specifically it restores the spaceship operator <=> to look correctly 12:36:58 Also I added a ton of math 12:40:14 `unidecode ≇ 12:40:27 ​[U+2247 NEITHER APPROXIMATELY NOR ACTUALLY EQUAL TO] 12:41:10 `unidecode ≨≩ 12:41:10 ​[U+2268 LESS-THAN BUT NOT EQUAL TO] [U+2269 GREATER-THAN BUT NOT EQUAL TO] 12:41:31 `unidecode ≸≹ 12:41:32 ​[U+2278 NEITHER LESS-THAN NOR GREATER-THAN] [U+2279 NEITHER GREATER-THAN NOR LESS-THAN] 12:43:11 wtf 12:43:35 in case = is too lame? 12:44:00 `unidecode ≝≞≟ 12:44:00 ​[U+225D EQUAL TO BY DEFINITION] [U+225E MEASURED BY] [U+225F QUESTIONED EQUAL TO] 12:44:52 myname: of course. can't something have an order but no equivalency? 12:45:40 ah 12:45:46 yeah, right 12:46:05 hmm but in that case we need a NEITHER LESS THAN NOR EQUAL TO NOR GREATER THAN 12:46:37 an example being NaN and 1 in floating point 12:46:58 i thought of {a} and {b} 12:47:21 and lower/greater being subset/superset 12:47:31 oh. yea 12:47:49 -!- J_Arcane has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:48:08 `unidecode ≋ 12:48:09 ​[U+224B TRIPLE TILDE] 12:48:30 ah. I thought it was "APPROXIMATELY EQUIVALENT TO" 12:49:31 "specifically it restores the spaceship operator <=> to look correctly" -- ah, I remember when people discussed if some new arrow-like operator was supposed to be spelled ~> or something else, and they talked about how it can be hard to type, and that it looks ugly in fonts where the ascii tilde is high up 12:50:10 -!- J_Arcane has joined. 12:50:46 could have been a python discussion 12:51:16 oren: yes, in fact we need twelve variants of them: the equals sign can be a double horizontal line, a single horizontal line, or a single slanted line; the less-than sign can be above or below; and the cross can be vertical or diagonal 12:51:35 oren: but you need the double tilde and single tilde operators first 12:51:54 I've got all those 12:52:09 er, all the tilde ones 12:52:30 ah, I see you have added the \x{2302} to the demo, it was just well hdiden 12:52:34 I havent gotten past ⊵ in the math block 12:53:00 on indeed, you have the doule tilde 12:53:03 and the single tilde too 12:53:24 and I see you have two variants of the less-equal (aren't there three?) 12:54:03 whoa, there's a quadruple equals sign too? 12:54:23 I wtill have many characters to go in the math 12:54:31 to make equality absolutely clear? 12:54:55 `unidecode ≣ 12:54:55 ​[U+2263 STRICTLY EQUIVALENT TO] 12:55:07 oren: I don't care much about the math symbols really, I've added only a couple of common ones, because I don't want to view math symbols in a monospaced font anyway 12:55:15 -!- newsham has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:55:18 I'm planning to eventually add some APL symbols though 12:55:27 because _those_ are useful in monospaced 12:55:39 those are in the misc. technical block 12:55:49 well, being as complete as possible is a nice feature for a font 12:56:11 oren: APL symbols are spreaded among all blocks, because they overlap with other symbols, including ascii ones really. 12:56:34 Well yeah, I mean the ones specific to apl are there 12:56:40 right 12:57:15 I don't care much about the unicode blocks. I care about covering uses, and covering certain legacy 8-bit encodings because they often match usage better than unicode blocks. 12:57:33 `unicode ∫∬∭∮ 12:57:37 U+222B INTEGRAL \ UTF-8: e2 88 ab UTF-16BE: 222b Decimal: ∫ \ ∫ \ Category: Sm (Symbol, Math) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ Character is mirrored \ \ U+222C DOUBLE INTEGRAL \ UTF-8: e2 88 ac UTF-16BE: 222c Decimal: ∬ \ ∬ \ Category: Sm (Symbol, Math) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ Character is mirrored \ Decomposition: 12:57:56 so I'll add some APL symbols by going through the large apl symbol palette, and add all that I care about, regardless of which block they're encoded in in unicode 12:58:03 ah 12:58:37 I did that at first when I was adding the DF charatcers 12:58:54 :D 12:59:10 your font is df complete? 12:59:21 Yup 12:59:27 hehe 12:59:31 doesn't df use only cp437? 12:59:37 nice 12:59:55 I don't know, I don't follow all the crazy non-ascii roguelike graphics. 12:59:57 I prefer ascii. 13:00:23 oren: do you plan on providing an aur package for your fontm 13:00:24 yeah it only uses cp437 13:00:34 what is aur? 13:00:44 arch user repository 13:01:01 oh. 13:01:56 possibly. although I find it easier to install fonts by cp font.ttf /usr/shar/fonts/; fc-cache -r 13:02:01 oren: by the way, what's the license terms for that font? 13:02:12 later when it gets stable, can I redistribute it if I want? 13:03:03 CC share alike attributin 13:03:19 http://fontstruct.com/fontstructions/show/630397 13:03:20 hmm... not very practical for a font, but ok 13:03:36 thanks 13:03:41 -!- TieSoul has joined. 13:03:54 I plan to eventually put my by: as a charatcer in the font 13:04:03 tags: awesome 13:04:24 (I should try to convert it to an x11 bitmap font.) 13:05:20 also tags: H4xx0r 13:05:36 oren: perhaps make the demo page link to that page 13:05:43 good idea 13:06:29 I mean, maybe the redistribution terms are there inside the font file, but I don't want to have to dive that to determine the terms. 13:07:02 -!- tromp_ has joined. 13:07:53 I meant that the words "by oren" would appear as a charatcer, thus fulfilling the license terms 13:08:10 -!- TieSoul has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 13:08:14 in fact I'll do that now 13:09:05 oren: sure, it's best to do all of that 13:10:03 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/Zimbabwe_%24100_trillion_2009_Obverse.jpg 13:10:10 There. now the nonexistent capital ending sigma has by oren in it 13:10:11 this thing is worth .47 USD 13:11:24 -!- TieSoul has joined. 13:12:34 My dad has a lot of obsolete European money from before the EU 13:13:43 me too but i'm not sure if that really counts since i live in europe 13:14:46 our banks allowed you to convert them to euros until 2010 13:15:18 hm... that's a long time 13:15:20 we still can do it today in germany 13:15:46 wow 13:16:26 there is no reason not to, is it? 13:16:47 well what do they do with the money they take? 13:16:58 destroy it? 13:17:04 eaxtcy 13:17:14 oren: give you euro for it. same as back in the ages. 13:17:37 they have to accept it for a long time, to inspire confidence that the money you have now won't suddenly turn worthless 13:17:44 Ah 13:18:01 yeah I can see that. 13:18:57 in this sense, it's not like changing to the euro is really different from how the actual banknotes are always replaced gradually (with a half-life between two years and five years, more for non-paper banknotes like the romanian lei, much more for coins) while the non-physical currency remains the same stable thing. 13:20:34 my dad also has a lot of old couns with silver in them, sucht haht the silver is worth much more than the coin says it is 13:21:08 -!- nycs has joined. 13:21:43 or how the banks have to change banknotes and coins from one denomination to another, conveniently and cheaply, because if I couldn't change my 20000 HUF banknotes to 10 pieces of 2000 HUF notes any time, then I'll no longer believe that those banknotes are actually worth 20000 HUF, and will refuse to draw much money from ATMs in 20000 HUF notes. 13:22:39 (I can change them now, which is good.) 13:22:55 ah, you're in switzerland, right 13:23:05 what? no 13:23:12 I eat swiss chocolate sometimes, but I'm not there 13:23:19 what is a HUF 13:23:22 the chocolate is imported 13:23:27 HUF = Hungarian forint 13:23:37 Oh. wait what 13:23:46 Hungary isn't in the EU yet? 13:23:51 sure it is 13:23:56 but not in the part that uses euro 13:24:01 half of the countries don't use euro yet 13:24:08 I thought the EU had gotten all the way to Russia's border? 13:24:19 UK, Sweden, Hungary, and some others don't use EUR yet 13:24:25 even if they are in the EU 13:24:25 ah 13:24:37 I think UK and Sweden have an explicit opt-out so they never need to switch 13:25:14 it's complicated, different parts of the EU stuff involve different sets of countries 13:25:20 (and varies by time too) 13:25:23 hmm is Ukraine in the EU or is it just tring 13:25:32 Ukraine is not in the EU 13:25:33 I guess it isn;t 13:25:40 And probably won't be for some time 13:25:54 so you haven't quite yet surrounded Russia 13:25:58 Taneb: yes, they basically say they don't want to switch, but it's hard to predict anything, it's quite possible that Hungary will never switch either, even if they intend to switch now 13:26:29 weird 13:26:40 oren: "surrounded"? what? 13:26:51 Well of three sides 13:27:12 the Baltics, Poland and Ukraine 13:27:33 surround part of russia 13:27:45 yeah, russians have nowhere to flee now 13:29:35 actually hold on isn't there a part of East Germany that the Russians still have or something? 13:29:53 huh? 13:30:01 yeah between poland and lithuania 13:30:02 Kaliningrad? 13:30:32 I remeber seeing an old map from before WWI where that was part of Germany 13:31:16 Yes, it was formerly in East Prussia, which was part of the German Empire 13:31:21 Yeah, it was in my 1898 atlas 13:32:36 Citizen's Atlas of the World 13:33:38 #only_1890_s_kids 13:37:35 Anyway that part is now surrounded by the EU 13:45:50 wow Austria-Hungary was Huuuuge 13:47:29 Seriously this map is like asking for shit to happen. There's no fucking countries between Austria-Hungary, Germany, and Russia. 13:47:50 what wer ethey thinking?!?! 13:50:06 It was a balance of power, of sorts 13:50:15 Until some people in Serbia tipped the balance 13:50:26 Causing everything to go horribly wrong 13:52:07 -!- Frooxius has joined. 13:58:44 Hmm, this picture is a little blurry 13:58:46 http://www.orenwatson.be/oldmapeurope.jpg 13:59:01 Stupid phone camera 13:59:40 there are as you can see a ton of countries missing 14:17:55 -!- llue has joined. 14:17:55 -!- llue has quit (Changing host). 14:17:55 -!- llue has joined. 14:18:42 -!- lleu has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 14:27:58 -!- grotewold has joined. 14:28:18 -!- MDream has changed nick to MDude. 14:36:46 Italy looks pretty much unchanged 14:37:08 I wish the picture was clear enough to read the text 15:00:41 -!- puckipedia has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 15:04:00 -!- puckipedia has joined. 15:18:26 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 15:20:33 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 15:22:26 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 15:27:43 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 15:35:01 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in). 15:43:10 -!- villasukka has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 15:43:10 -!- villasukka has joined. 15:43:44 -!- J_Arcane has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92-rdmsoft [XULRunner 35.0.1/20150122214805]). 15:50:02 -!- J_Arcane has joined. 15:59:16 -!- villasukka has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 15:59:16 -!- villasukka has joined. 16:16:21 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 16:28:34 -!- mauris has joined. 16:28:34 -!- mauris has quit (Changing host). 16:28:34 -!- mauris has joined. 16:38:38 -!- aretecode has joined. 16:59:01 -!- mauris_ has joined. 16:59:01 -!- mauris_ has quit (Changing host). 16:59:01 -!- mauris_ has joined. 17:02:23 -!- mauris has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 17:03:42 -!- grotewold has quit (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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Only 42 seconds on my end 17:14:06 my ISP has a web chat service 17:14:16 and the GET value for UTF-8 is "✓" 17:14:24 I'm not sure whether to be amazed or horrified 17:14:59 What is the GET value for ASCII? 17:16:06 utf-8=no, perhaps? 17:22:54 > fromIntegral (ord '✓') :: Word8 17:22:56 19 17:57:06 -!- FreeFull has quit (Quit: BBS). 18:08:36 -!- FreeFull has joined. 18:08:50 -!- newsham has joined. 18:24:13 -!- grotewold has joined. 18:28:37 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 18:38:22 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 18:45:32 -!- Wright has joined. 19:02:38 -!- Wright has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 19:03:00 -!- Wright has joined. 19:07:36 -!- Wright has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 19:49:32 -!- TieSoul has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 20:10:32 -!- llue has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 20:10:54 -!- llue has joined. 20:10:54 -!- llue has quit (Changing host). 20:10:54 -!- llue has joined. 20:12:00 -!- J_Arcane_ has joined. 20:13:08 -!- J_Arcane has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 20:13:10 -!- J_Arcane_ has changed nick to J_Arcane. 20:20:03 -!- x10A94 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 20:31:09 -!- grotewold has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com). 20:44:20 I saw ✓ somewhere recently too. 20:44:35 I think in the form of "utf8=✓" URL parameter, or something similar. 20:45:49 I think it might've been at work. 20:45:57 But maybe it was just some website. 20:46:05 github does that 20:46:19 Oh, that sounds plausible. 20:46:28 https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=foo 20:46:47 i saw another one do it too... it's probably some noddy ruby library 20:47:02 I did search for something on github.com recently, so it was probably that. 21:00:37 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in). 21:06:47 -!- nycs has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 21:06:54 -!- Patashu has joined. 21:12:38 -!- APic has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 21:34:56 `? olist 21:35:11 Update notification for the webcomic Order of the Stick. http://www.giantitp.com/comics/ootslatest.html 21:35:18 too modern 21:35:22 -!- oerjan has joined. 21:36:09 `` sed -i 's#http.*#http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/GiantITP/ootscript#' wisdom/olist 21:36:14 No output. 21:36:43 `? olist 21:36:44 Update notification for the webcomic Order of the Stick. http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/GiantITP/ootscript 21:37:06 so the o stands for oots? 21:37:06 wat 21:37:32 olsner: it stands for order of the stick hth 21:38:30 very good, that's what I meant by oots 21:39:25 olsner of the stick 21:40:03 whoa whoa whoa 21:40:05 oerjan of the shachaf 21:40:09 if it isn't our favorite rhyming swede 21:40:47 indeed it isn't, I don't rhyme 21:41:11 `quote prose 21:41:12 1137) A Swede who was in #esoteric / Thought his rhymes were a little generic. / "I might use, in my prose, / ꙮs, / But my poetry's alphanumeric." 21:42:22 -!- Patashu has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 21:44:42 oerjan: that limerick is so good 21:44:50 now i don't want to write other limericks because they won't be as good 21:45:37 otoh, if you don't write limericks you're guaranteed not to produce anything better 21:46:23 self-fulfilling prophecies are so self-defeating 21:46:46 i'm concerned with my average limerick quality hth 21:47:20 one way out is to write lots of them, but hide the ones that aren't good enough 21:48:28 the evil enterprise method 21:48:55 shachaf the evil enterprising limerick master 21:49:07 the best thing about it is that i wrote it in a hurry 21:49:09 oren: \x{174} has the wrong accent in the font (just so it doesn't scroll out) 21:49:36 i was in a competition with Taneb to quickly write a limerick about olsner not being able to quickly write limericks 21:49:56 ok, that's not the best thing 21:50:00 the ꙮs is what really brings it home, I think 21:50:16 obviously 21:50:38 -!- mihow has joined. 21:52:33 fungot: do you limerick? 21:52:33 olsner: but why is that a robot of your country." expr; not 21:53:44 oerjan: when is olist #1000 coming out twh 21:53:53 and how are they going to wrap up the whole story in one comic 21:54:21 maybe they'll use several comics 21:57:14 -!- boily has joined. 21:57:47 -!- Wright has joined. 22:00:00 fungot: What sort of robots does your country have? 22:00:00 fizzie: it being a fun language for programming is this true in scheme? look up could be a set 22:02:32 fizziello. fungellot. 22:08:41 fungot has a black belt in tong-fu. 22:08:41 fizzie: but if you put your ifs before your assertions? worse? the question and answer format is nice here but is a persistent program. it requires binary i/ o 22:09:17 tong? 22:11:50 oerjan: do you live in trondheim or trondhjem twh 22:11:52 and how about your twin 22:13:03 boily: It's an ancient art of fighting with a pair of tongs. 22:13:13 shachaf: trondheim, but don't tell any people from here over 80 or so hth 22:13:43 are there people here over 80?? 22:13:54 @metar CYUL 22:13:55 CYUL 242200Z 22013KT 15SM FEW040 BKN055 BKN085 BKN150 24/18 A2979 RMK CU1SC5AC2AC1 CU TR AC TR SLP087 DENSITY ALT 1300FT 22:13:59 no, only 24. 22:14:28 maybe they'll use several comics <-- how can they use several comics when there's only #1000 left that's crazy talk 22:14:37 Saturday the daily high was 28; today it was 17. 22:14:48 trivial: #1000 part 1, #1000 part 2, etc 22:15:00 oerjan: Sometimes they have several comic pages with a single number. 22:15:05 or #999 part n and then #1000 22:15:08 Maybe the next thousand will arrive all at once. 22:15:13 hehehe 22:15:24 olsner: people in trondheim hth 22:15:25 maybe it will be one really really large comic 22:15:56 not sure if it's humanly feasible to inhale a thousand comics at once. 22:16:01 Nah, you only really need one strip, but with 12 panels 22:16:12 @metar ENVA 22:16:12 ENVA 242150Z 12007KT CAVOK 18/09 Q1014 RMK WIND 670FT 13013KT 22:16:21 I wish olist was over already because I want to buy _The Complete Order of the Stick_. 22:16:35 maybe a thousand really small comics would be inhalable 22:16:53 olsner: impossible, think of the paper cuts 22:16:59 indeed 22:17:18 death by a thousand nasal comics. 22:17:20 * boily shudders 22:17:24 but not impossible, just inadvisable 22:17:59 boily: i realized the horror but too late, i'd already pressed return 22:19:05 It's not complicated really. First panel: Belkar dies. Next four panels: Elan does something about his father and gets his happy ending. Last seven panels: the OoTS saves the world, Roy kills Xykon thus fulfilling his blood oath. Easy enough. 22:19:33 Maybe the last one has to be six panels so that there's a black "THE END" panel at the end. 22:20:24 b_jonas: wait a minute, you're not even on olist 22:20:48 What olist? 22:20:57 Aren't you talking about Order of the Stick? 22:21:00 there's only one olist 22:21:06 `? olist 22:21:07 Update notification for the webcomic Order of the Stick. http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/GiantITP/ootscript 22:22:15 do you have to be on olist to participate in the tangential discussions? 22:22:30 obviously 22:23:01 ah, sorry, I retract all my previous statements about oots 22:23:53 I mean, think about it, multiple comic authors have managed to complete their comics at a nice round number of strips, wrapping up the story in a clear way. Such comics include One over zero, StickManStickMan, Casey and Andy. 22:24:05 b_jonas: i feel like there are a few loose ends left there tdnh 22:24:20 Rich is clearly a very talented and dedicated comic author, so clearly he can do that too. 22:24:24 maybe it's not going to 1000 but 1024 22:28:26 Mind you, there's also some webcomics that are completed but not with a round number of strips: Ozy and Millie (2248 strips), Irregular Webcomics (3198 strips). 22:28:41 `? taxicab 22:28:42 taxicab? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:31:02 `? oots 22:31:03 oots? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:31:10 `? order of the stick 22:31:11 order of the stick? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:31:13 `? the order of the stick 22:31:14 the order of the stick? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:31:51 `? stick 22:31:52 stick? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:32:50 Question. Why does this query match so many cards: http://magiccards.info/query?q=the&v=card&s=cname 22:33:08 Maybe the last oots comic strip will be 9999 22:33:39 b_jonas: There are a lot of cards with "the" in their name? 22:34:00 It's not even limited to English. 22:34:11 boily: order of the mapole 22:35:10 Ō_Ō... 22:36:05 hmm 22:36:46 `? mapole 22:36:47 A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. A regulatory mapole measures 6' by 12 kg, ±0.5 inHg. 22:38:50 `? kol 22:38:51 kol? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:39:10 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 22:40:44 this isn't Hungarian. 22:41:20 what? 22:41:46 `? thwackamacallit 22:41:48 kol is carbon, or COPD 22:41:49 A thwackamacallit is like a whatchamacallit, but more painful. See mapole. 22:42:12 kål is pronounced the same and means cabbage 22:42:13 no, kol is Kingdom of Loathing or something like that 22:42:44 no, it's a two-sided drum. 22:46:04 Hellu 22:46:14 olsner: in dutch they are even both "kool"! 22:46:31 I'm home from work! 22:46:31 cool :) 22:47:08 kooren! 22:47:14 hppavellon[1]! 22:48:07 and i have my new Lenovo Thinkpad! 22:50:05 Fucking hell this thing is awesome 22:52:36 did you penguinify it already? 22:52:43 and, just as ordered, it has Windows 7 22:52:56 not fucking windows 8 22:56:04 boily: no, I'm tying this on my 9 year old laptop while setting up the new one 22:56:25 all in due time. 22:56:35 -!- boily has quit (Quit: INQUISITIVE CHICKEN). 22:56:44 What number of a Thinkpad is it? 22:57:18 t540p 23:01:35 I got one of those things with a relatively high-DPI screen (14" 2560x1440) for a work laptop, because I thought it would be nice, but turns out it's kind of annoying to use it with an external monitor, because e.g. terminal windows suitable for one screen get far too small/large on the other. 23:03:05 I have it with a normal dpi screen 23:03:31 seems to have a better viewing angle than my old one though 23:03:59 oren: Windows 10 is OK if you disable all the evil tracking bullshit 23:04:15 But yes, windows 8 was the most evil thing ever made 23:05:37 _Was_ 23:05:41 I killed windows 8 23:08:51 -!- APic has joined. 23:10:38 so now I'm simulatanously using two laptops manufactured 9 years apart 23:13:06 hmm lets see what my website looks like in IE 23:15:25 looks like total shit 23:15:49 IE doesn;t support css web font 23:17:24 It does support it somewhat. 23:18:10 I think I got Embedded OpenType (.eot) to work. 23:18:28 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embedded_OpenType 23:19:18 That's the only supported format for IE 8, as per https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms530757(v=vs.85).aspx -- IE 9 extends it to WOFF and raw TrueType. 23:20:23 ok well first step, install firefox. then I'll install windows defender and uninstall stupid mcafee 23:21:54 er, MSE that is 23:22:44 I want to make a language that looks just like CSS, but is _actually_ a programming language 23:23:45 hmm, you mean like spread the information of the program into two different files in two different syntaces? 23:25:31 Yes 23:25:35 That works too 23:26:16 I was thinking it'd be /(decla|impe)rative/i hybrid 23:26:28 mcafee is complaining abaut me uninstalling it. well fuck you you cpu-draining crap 23:26:29 So definitions are functions 23:26:50 And attribute assignments are functions 23:27:04 Hello World would be: 23:27:09 main { 23:27:17 print:Hello, World! 23:27:18 } 23:27:28 There should be a semicolon there 23:27:44 don't you mean print:"Hello, World!"; 23:27:49 Yeah 23:27:51 Whoops 23:27:52 That 23:27:57 I haven't done CSS in a while 23:28:26 I want its /syntax/ to be *exactly* identicle to real CSS, or at least pretty close 23:29:31 so you want to limit nesting depth to one {}. 23:30:01 Yes 23:30:11 That'll make it a problem when trying to TC it 23:30:26 I guess loops could be like loop: a, f; where f refers to another definition 23:30:34 Possibly 23:30:40 and a is an array 23:30:54 b_jonas: erm you're aware that Irregular Webcomic! has restarted? hth 23:33:06 -!- adu has joined. 23:40:57 @tell b_jonas erm are you aware that Irregular Webcomic! has restarted? hth 23:40:57 Consider it noted. 23:45:20 So 23:45:21 CSS 23:46:05 oerjan: Basic Instructions just ended with 1181 strips. Although that's counting reruns as double -- that's just the number of lines in the "archive" list. 23:46:29 (1051 after a grep -iv rerun.) 23:46:35 It looks like we can do array like things with E[foo~="bar" "baz" "etc"] 23:46:45 s/y l/y-l// 23:46:56 s/\/\//\// 23:47:03 -!- Frooxius has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 23:47:09 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 23:47:13 FROOXIUS 23:47:19 YOU WERE SO YOUNG! 23:47:49 8-Bit Theater ended with "Episode 1224". 23:48:28 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 23:48:46 So in CLS, what should "E:" do? 23:48:50 Well 23:49:05 First we have to determine what F A P {...} means 23:49:21 Why the hell did I just do that? 23:52:36 Now I've set the theme to windows classic and all the fonts to Arial 10 23:56:57 -!- JenTheHappyGeek has joined. 23:57:24 -!- JenTheHappyGeek has left.