< 1441065636 440749 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren, anyone who likes good music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3z7gfeJw0g < 1441066601 165775 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I'm not sure what they mean by top & bottom if two of those sides aren't it < 1441066706 839098 :mitchs_!~canissimi@unaffiliated/canissimia PART :#esoteric < 1441067063 42380 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: cool! < 1441067569 638604 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1441067818 682355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION crosses himself off the list of people who like good music
< 1441068120 256075 :darkl0ck_!~v1rtuehea@TOROON2634W-LP140-03-2925478442.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1441068211 21531 :darkl0ck!~v1rtuehea@TOROON2634W-LP140-03-2925478442.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1441068361 524364 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me of that one thing that I can't remember the name of. < 1441068391 442719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it amortization hth < 1441068442 504590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fizzie < 1441068443 377266 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the king of #esoteric, see http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/src/fizziecoin.jpg < 1441068449 148584 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it fnord < 1441068453 394302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, "faces" is probably more standard terminology than "sides" < 1441068483 155427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO GENE RAY IS ENTIRELY CORRECT hth < 1441068526 909359 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, it was that Manbo-dead-behind-the-house-P thing. < 1441068628 950442 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why didn't durkon use disruption again in olist 429 like in 104 twh < 1441068919 726316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well the sword is starmetal now. otherwise i dunno. < 1441068936 145359 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google disruption d&d < 1441068937 256621 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Disruption < 1441068937 311048 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: SRD:Disruption - D&D Wiki < 1441068967 191317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems p. effective < 1441068974 318302 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the sword just as non-bludgeoning as before? < 1441068993 757892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just noticed that < 1441069021 948504 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it's http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/disruptingWeapon.htm < 1441069034 718500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but perhaps his phylactery is negating the effect? < 1441069056 247357 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :he had the phylactery before too < 1441069057 928526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because surely rich cannot just have messed up. < 1441069068 157998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, but roy didn't _know_ he had < 1441069077 803568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was surprised that xykon came back < 1441069083 610885 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but last time xykon destroyed the sword < 1441069150 345759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is true, so the theory hasn't been properly tested < 1441069276 919503 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1441069747 222607 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1441069966 118993 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGrdGXDcoGU there's a comment that seems to have some more background < 1441070622 436264 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1441070809 950272 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1441071336 592920 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so what's with olist 963 < 1441071395 790170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's with not using urls < 1441071464 471972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0963.html < 1441071470 899078 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hthyh < 1441071526 67104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well back when i read it, it obviously seemed to be about something (demi-)humanlike the demon was incapable of grasping < 1441071539 161057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking that's how they'd figure durkon out < 1441071545 769443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i fully expected it to come up as ... precisely < 1441071552 824086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now what twh < 1441071556 65366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it seems a bit late now < 1441071566 508482 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it'll come up soon < 1441071587 778262 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen speculation that Durkon can give Durkon misleading memories regarding combat style, and further speculation that this is already happening < 1441071589 646733 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they won't be sure whether it's true durkon or what < 1441071639 745585 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is, if they don't notice that the demon durkon is different _before_ resurrecting the true one, then i don't see how it will help afterwards < 1441071662 400429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe something comes up where they have to keep it alive < 1441071667 479023 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1441071906 254406 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Roy as talkative as HPoH thinks? I don't remember, but I think Roy is willing to fight when necessary, and HPoH... doesn't realize? < 1441071990 413608 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm i suppose if the resurrection _fails_ at getting rid of "HPoH", it could matter. < 1441072004 812593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that would be interesting < 1441072150 936885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: hm did HPoH learn that "fact" in one of durkon's flashbacks? < 1441072163 671417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that we saw, that is) < 1441072198 403390 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1001.html not a directly seen flashback, but HPoH references an event suggesting that < 1441072208 439589 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which was in On The Origins of PCs) < 1441072279 900656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the reference i was talking about, i haven't read that book < 1441072390 906981 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's now available for the first time in digital pdf format from gumroad hth < 1441072458 483328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :THX < 1441072583 314869 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION also bought Dungeon Crawlin' Fools because bonus comics and commentary and I have more money than sense
< 1441072616 410689 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> minimumBy (comparing length) ["oots", "olist"] < 1441072618 108419 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "oots" < 1441072652 368866 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t comparing length < 1441072653 622949 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foldable t => t a -> t a -> Ordering < 1441072707 908131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sortBy (comparing length) [Just 'h', Just 'i', Nothing, Nothing] < 1441072709 882442 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [Nothing,Nothing,Just 'h',Just 'i'] < 1441072719 594947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FTP, so fancy < 1441072757 398408 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't serve it over HTTP? < 1441072814 691778 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION isn't sure if shachaf is making the too obvious pun or being whooshed
< 1441072851 749387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're talking about a haskell-related acronym that is three letters long and ends in P, i refuse to acknowledge any such thing < 1441072856 67813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate them all < 1441072867 105971 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and anyone who comes up with one of those is terrible < 1441072881 81726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just make an AAP hth < 1441072947 664857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there more than two that originated with haskell < 1441072998 672773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if it was a bad idea to make his GND proposal while SPJ was on holiday
< 1441073050 701884 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right PVP too < 1441073060 217614 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so at least three < 1441073095 381421 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i think they changed AMP to FAM or something < 1441073103 608189 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not only with haskell, with the same person < 1441073115 87280 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to name everything < 1441073117 387212 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :disgusting < 1441073133 823683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it HVR < 1441073175 313875 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1441073190 987461 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b01:cddb::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Driving in CA makes me grumpy. I should do it less. < 1441073201 183419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it edwardk < 1441073226 871020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1441073230 772237 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i shouldn't have talked about it < 1441073268 29108 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i didn't mean to single that person out < 1441073466 415683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i understand your name has three letters and ends with P tdnh < 1441073486 469995 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :look < 1441073490 367737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should just all hug it out < 1441073509 531505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hug < 1441073509 585865 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/newticket?type=bug < 1441074592 924347 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1441075504 619610 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1441076156 260074 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@24.237.158.3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441079438 827236 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1441079936 632374 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@24.237.158.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making Disarray: The World's Crappiest Game Engine < 1441080221 44860 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@24.237.158.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anyone has any esoteric suggestions for it, feel free to say < 1441080386 286344 :Danger1!~canaima@190.38.39.110 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441080553 763770 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If arrays are 1-dimensional variables, and scalars are 0-dimensional variables, Disarray should use -1-dimensional variables < 1441080589 425430 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@24.237.158.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Disarray is a pun on Unity < 1441080612 651797 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you could take the view that arrays are 2-dimensional, scalars 1-dimensional, so you should use 0-dimensional variables, but that's boring < 1441080617 749924 :Danger1!~canaima@190.38.39.110 PART :#esoteric < 1441081837 357231 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@24.237.158.3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1441082346 450813 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1441083701 305290 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1441084441 895406 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1441085393 948956 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1441085417 310894 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1441085780 939468 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441086392 300789 :mauris_!~mauris@c-69-254-26-224.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441086392 355322 :mauris_!~mauris@c-69-254-26-224.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1441086392 355403 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1441086562 408978 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1441088915 281171 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80e-20.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1441089487 619179 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80e-20.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1441090215 961504 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1441090373 169006 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441090890 621581 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1441091026 64141 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1441091405 100764 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1441091993 250960 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: we changed the burning bridges proposal (BBP) to the Foldable/Traversable Proposal (FTP) is that what you mean? < 1441091998 53128 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :AMP remained AMP < 1441092025 69209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought i saw somewhere a different acronym for AMP < 1441092034 201393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which included Functor < 1441092111 678792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk: ^ < 1441092121 781773 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1441092124 199162 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :AMP stayed < 1441092130 569098 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :its even in a ghc command line thing < 1441092133 616084 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :-fwarn-amp < 1441092138 609656 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :so its never changing =) < 1441092144 177639 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1441092218 891946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh. < 1441092222 881684 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate GHC now. < 1441092256 537188 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only saving grace is that GHC doesn't care about breaking backwards compatibility. < 1441092403 111656 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441092496 151122 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i think, esoOS should have roguelike elements < 1441092539 766998 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting idea... < 1441092605 905220 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :after each boot, commands are assigned to functions randomly < 1441092625 458870 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there need to be mechanisms to determine the type of commands < 1441092839 507300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1441092871 804099 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting idea < 1441092875 135276 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1441092878 751195 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Already said that < 1441092888 759129 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, could the mechanism be trial and error? < 1441092922 282268 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname? < 1441092923 206338 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first idea was to let builtins and /tmp always unchanged < 1441092936 882112 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1441092938 49988 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or? < 1441092968 196855 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could do echo "foo" > /tmp/bar < 1441092992 628637 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if there is a file bar with cobtebt fooy, you know echo and > work as expected < 1441093030 767809 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you get file not found, it could be because > is assigned to < or | < 1441093036 929424 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or echo works differently < 1441093104 813914 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1441093137 938422 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intesting... < 1441093164 544169 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So commands and redirectors get shuffled on boot? < 1441093185 818033 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1441093342 55294 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool < 1441093354 682248 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking about making the filesys a self-balancing binary tree < 1441093358 325048 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just for the lulz < 1441093369 131427 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that'd make programming /impossible/ < 1441093447 602593 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1441093474 811841 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do that or why would it make programming impossible? < 1441093626 107358 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1441093672 460762 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :second < 1441093783 986778 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1441093790 741082 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not LITERALLY impossible < 1441093793 258972 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But very hard < 1441093813 879585 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because when you can't organize files in a logical matter < 1441093816 338458 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's harder to do < 1441093929 359570 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441094637 447949 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ShortScript14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43989 5* 03YourDeathIsComing 5* (+909) 10Created page with "ShortScript(SS) i an work in progress programming language for code golfing. It´s written in Batch. It operates an only 5 variables:α, β, γ, δ, ε.


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hthyh < 1441119482 361945 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hthyh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1441119533 92697 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn hthyh/"hthyh" is a common typo for "tithe". < 1441119535 35928 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «hthyh» < 1441119670 644132 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-49-74.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1441120341 617766 :stalem!54dbf5f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.219.245.244 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1441121527 858078 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1441124079 121138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it stands for "hope that helps, your highness" < 1441125011 915968 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441125340 509324 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1441125363 536737 :mauris!~mauris@c-69-254-26-224.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441125363 591061 :mauris!~mauris@c-69-254-26-224.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1441125363 591121 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1441125746 120645 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ppodhadsvcvjgjzh JOIN :#esoteric < 1441126449 892058 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-129-184.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1441126526 479824 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-184.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: rebooting < 1441126592 907753 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1441126797 441628 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-129-184.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1441127007 559493 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-129-184.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1441127214 619370 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1441127214 673723 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1441127240 425994 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Algebra14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43995&oldid=43965 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+20) 10 < 1441127662 84687 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1441128340 707306 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1441128595 544930 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1441128637 657609 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1441128698 547835 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBS < 1441128922 489065 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1441129147 501042 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1441129331 83427 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1441129415 641680 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1441129878 477253 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1441129889 494044 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1441129907 675531 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1441130062 585299 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1441130816 284007 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1441130840 171111 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441131409 624582 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1441131520 801492 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any web browser that follows a client-daemon model? < 1441131562 181246 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1441131774 556155 :impomatic_!~digital_w@81.174.207.110 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441131834 462656 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://spirituality.chat/ hth < 1441132228 556365 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1441132403 580456 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Chrome Remote Desktop could be considered that, if you stretch the definitions as far as they go, but not really. < 1441132446 649554 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1441133063 925468 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :An ingredient-oriented Programming Langauge would be interesting < 1441133072 413008 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, you have a pool of ingredients < 1441133106 414672 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you combine them in a combinatorical fashion in a given environment to produce results < 1441133111 907559 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using up ingredients in the process < 1441133147 459143 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure it'd be useful in Information Security or something, in that you use up "ingredients" as you do it and thus need to know exactly what you want when you start < 1441133153 746135 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you do it well, there isn't any leak < 1441133153 958969 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1441133188 28478 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, nycs! < 1441133243 931410 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1441133249 663136 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523? < 1441133269 598487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: have you seen affine typing? < 1441133273 220561 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1441133278 788386 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Googling it now < 1441133312 264381 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1441133315 509631 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com NICK :`^_^v < 1441133335 495408 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Can't find any english resources on it < 1441133357 201594 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously? I'd have thought it was better known than that < 1441133374 213690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the idea's that you can only use a function argument once, you can't copy it or use it multiple times < 1441133385 940310 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting < 1441133397 288715 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's it used for? < 1441133398 997769 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are certainly resources on affine types. < 1441133402 644965 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, Wikipedia's entry seems to be here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affine_logic < 1441133405 763648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And affine logic. < 1441133407 74385 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1441133409 592969 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(logics and type systems have a 1-to-1 correspondence) < 1441133417 687286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I use it in my day job < 1441133418 355134 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google affine typing < 1441133419 704872 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substructural_type_system < 1441133436 264627 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually used DDG < 1441133450 797193 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's one sentence in that article < 1441133460 355973 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just used the word "Google" because it's more understandable < 1441133460 994686 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia doesn't have much information about affine typing/logic, really < 1441133482 996589 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer the idea of ingredients-oriented programming < 1441133501 473950 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :stdout(echo, "Hello, World!") < 1441133506 915675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forunately there are other results. < 1441133522 313669 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway the "resources" interpretation of linear logic only goes so far, as far as I know. < 1441133526 646101 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's "Mix echo and 'Hello, World!' in the STDOUT" < 1441133545 972835 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the research in that direction mostly seems to be along the lines of "coeffects" nowadays < 1441133553 136673 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the problem being that nobody seems to be able to coherently state what a coeffect is < 1441133570 449737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not heard of coeffects. < 1441133578 109375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you use comonads rather than monads to represent them in pure languages like Haskell, that much is widely agreed on) < 1441133627 449061 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first relevant duckduckgo result seems to be this one: http://tomasp.net/academic/ < 1441133639 67567 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1441133648 51805 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there are a lot of irrelevant ones beforehand) < 1441133664 588285 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it was the first Google result. < 1441133681 601158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because Google results depend on who's searching, and so Google had a decent idea of which meaning of "coeffect" you likely wanted < 1441133695 334045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas duckduckgo results don't, and thus it can't allow for the fact that we probably want an academic/CS definition < 1441133697 245873 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use Incognito Mode for all Google searches. < 1441133706 157111 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder how much that helps < 1441133708 651874 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I'd hope it helps < 1441133772 740439 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ingredients-Oriented Paradigm14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43996 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+561) 10Created Page < 1441133789 405244 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, a review of my webserver logs show that basically everyone either enters URLs manually or doesn't send referers nowadays < 1441133795 137349 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who visits my site, at least < 1441133805 713771 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a noticeable minority send referers that can't possibly be correct, i.e. are faking them < 1441133811 304007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably they get directed from https: sites, whereas yours is an http: site? < 1441133827 114562 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Browsers don't send referers in that case. < 1441133838 392258 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes, that would make sense < 1441134059 477182 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ingredients-Oriented Paradigm14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43997&oldid=43996 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+342) 10Ingredients and Utensils < 1441134591 515666 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1441134719 614191 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1441135059 611410 :stalem!54dbf5f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.219.245.244 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441135473 852157 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Algebra14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43998&oldid=43995 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+12) 10updated < 1441135525 782286 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ingredients-Oriented Paradigm14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43999&oldid=43997 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+1161) 10Extended the article < 1441135593 104868 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ingredients-Oriented Paradigm14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44000&oldid=43999 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (-2) 10changed a word for clarity < 1441135640 809904 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo people suck at making esolangs :( < 1441135657 14646 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :teach them < 1441135679 892772 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also suck! < 1441135680 675943 :rdococ!~rd606six@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :delicious oriented paradigm < 1441135692 337087 :rdococ!~rd606six@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I suck at making esolangs... < 1441135699 232193 :rdococ!~rd606six@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's because my ideas aren't esoteric enough < 1441135707 534614 :rdococ!~rd606six@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and are actually innovative < 1441136042 237161 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :*.net *.split < 1441136042 662250 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1441136042 662269 :aretecode!~aretecode@209.58.131.5 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1441136042 927904 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1441136043 865760 :rodgort!~rodgort@105.ip-167-114-152.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1441136071 448394 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've always wanted to make one about chemistry but i'm bad at chemistry, whooops < 1441136094 414913 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1441136094 469376 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441136094 469448 :aretecode!~aretecode@209.58.131.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441136199 708014 :rodgort!~rodgort@105.ip-167-114-152.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441136351 397812 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've also always wanted to make one that's very difficult for computers to interpret, but for a less boring reason than IRP < 1441136365 297855 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1441136404 893696 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe something like... you need to run some real-life processes that are deterministic but extremely difficult to simulate? < 1441136462 361152 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then an interpreter would need help from a real-world actor to run these processes and report on them. this is inspired by cfluviurrh < 1441136874 170335 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :*.net *.split < 1441136874 470387 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1441136874 524677 :aretecode!~aretecode@209.58.131.5 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1441136874 783961 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1441137148 898031 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1441137148 952214 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441137148 952252 :aretecode!~aretecode@209.58.131.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441137220 632556 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1441137312 676950 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1441137622 365120 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1441138770 585739 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1441139279 758706 :darkl0ck!~v1rtuehea@TOROON2634W-LP130-02-1279477922.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1441139433 304739 :darkl0ck_!~v1rtuehea@TOROON2634W-LP140-03-2925478442.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1441139543 294708 :darkl0ck_!~v1rtuehea@TOROON2634W-LP140-03-2925478442.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1441139555 743009 :darkl0ck!~v1rtuehea@TOROON2634W-LP130-02-1279477922.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1441139681 503329 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1441139705 390078 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Categorisation14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=44001 5* 03Ais523 5* (+36) 10redirect; seems like a pretty likely typo to me < 1441139805 322047 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07WUUI14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=44002 5* 03Ais523 5* (+9220) 10new language! < 1441139816 54177 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, so I've been working on an actual esolang :-) < 1441139820 527850 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me know what you think of WUUI < 1441139850 704651 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Ais52314]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44003&oldid=41001 5* 03Ais523 5* (+10) 10+[[WUUI]] < 1441139872 101108 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1441139873 636470 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44004&oldid=43933 5* 03Ais523 5* (+11) 10/* W */ +[[WUUI]] < 1441139981 831798 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it's oddly similar to My Unreliable Past in some ways < 1441139991 443413 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but different < 1441140024 49525 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tasks: write a Hello World that's more efficient than O(2^(n^2)) < 1441140030 259231 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: this may involve optimizing the interpreter) < 1441140036 897128 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prove TCness or otherwise < 1441140047 598206 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, just write an interpreter that does some semblence of optimization < 1441140058 163291 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really want to write an unoptimizing one because it'd never end in a reasonable timeframe < 1441140261 364864 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1441140516 205368 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(2^n^2)? What language is that? < 1441140521 349781 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: http://esolangs.org/wiki/WUUI < 1441140699 948660 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Shove14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44005&oldid=35344 5* 03Ais523 5* (+15) 10/* External resources */ sprunge links aren't permalinks; good thing I happened to have the original around and could rehost it < 1441140701 87604 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Says if the output diverges, the program is restarted again. But is there any means to have diverging output? Is there input? < 1441140701 365598 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1441140710 71583 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: there's a lot of randomness involved < 1441140727 812060 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like until(x[257]/1000); output; < 1441140733 476260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :will pretty much output a random byte < 1441140737 32424 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I see, random increases and decreases < 1441140823 90485 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I've been playing around in this space quite a bit, I think < 1441140829 452206 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. /ˈæmbiːɛf/ < 1441140855 276356 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but WUUI is better, because a) it doesn't fit neatly into any paradigm I've seen (it's closest to declarative), and b) it isn't a BF derivative < 1441140899 978554 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in retrospect, a decent part of my esolanging career has been driven by my hatred of Java2K < 1441140931 173254 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1441140942 386907 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like a strange motivation < 1441140963 301226 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1441140975 533891 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: have you seen Java2K? :-( < 1441140996 454958 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1441141001 771048 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't see how that's connected to esolangs < 1441141015 120795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Java2K is an esolang < 1441141019 262049 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1441141025 541308 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how does it motivate you in making more esolangs? < 1441141035 916019 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: because it had an interesting premise and completely wasted it < 1441141067 872968 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so it's a _bad_ esolang < 1441141069 231885 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1441141071 159483 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1441141077 514426 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1441141147 620446 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what is the probability of a cell oing 0 -> 1? < 1441141161 295989 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: 1/3 I guess, although it doesn't really conceptuallly matter < 1441141166 43371 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*conceptually < 1441141176 693095 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially as the probabilities are approximate anyway < 1441141366 953014 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: in WUUI, does only zero count as false? < 1441141388 416906 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yep < 1441141391 122335 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although division rounds down < 1441141396 514509 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can effectively compare to a constant via dividing by it < 1441141431 736794 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1441141432 743433 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, division rounds down? ok < 1441141437 762555 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1441141444 410085 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rounds down or rounds towards zero? < 1441141459 217836 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the page says "rounds downwards towards zero" which is strange < 1441141461 66887 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which of the two? < 1441141467 156877 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it truncating division or flooring division? < 1441141472 348260 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1441141473 875807 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both! we only use nonnegative integers < 1441141479 745450 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the array contains only nonnegative integers? < 1441141480 302634 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1441141502 962993 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if the value of a cell would decrease under zero? < 1441141512 197180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't < 1441141538 323754 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's as if it the random walk was mirrored around -1/2, not around 0? < 1441141549 329438 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's one way to think about it < 1441141560 550154 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1441141817 528398 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when is the memory modified? after each statement? it's not modified between evaluating subexpressions, or within an output; statement, right? < 1441141836 793044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :after the test of each while/until/unless/if instruction < 1441141849 729207 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1441141953 91110 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1441141955 181490 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, this WUUI language indeed looks scary and esoteric < 1441142002 37196 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1441142250 769932 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Flower14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=44006 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+781) 10Flower, the first turing complete language I have thought of in a while < 1441142476 517157 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1441142871 89336 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1441143295 387266 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1441143761 627457 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441143873 721480 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1441143911 703808 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1441144010 611635 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1441144057 395078 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1441144231 908528 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1441144674 615012 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1441144774 803215 :darkl0ck_!~v1rtuehea@TOROON2634W-LP140-03-2925478442.dsl.bell.ca NICK :darkl0ck < 1441144782 443335 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1441144835 573894 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1441144890 586288 :stalem!54dbf5f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.219.245.244 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1441144958 193975 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Java is also a bad language, wouldn't that mean that Java2K is an accurate satire of Java? < 1441145130 553313 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1441145179 362791 :impomatic_!~digital_w@81.174.207.110 QUIT :Quit: http://corewar.co.uk < 1441145796 304998 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1441146045 587217 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1441146422 605518 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-64.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1441146912 413907 :|f`-`|f!~rikc@108-65-78-116.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1441147163 355485 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441147281 493394 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :The font of all knowledge | The channel where Sir Fungellot does not. | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/ < 1441147287 986448 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes more sense to me < 1441147306 38792 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The word fnord wouldn't be redacted, you just wouldn't see it < 1441148042 111558 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1441148098 64207 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot can see fnord. < 1441148098 387475 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: people can get over the 14g trinet upload limits." when asked, chat a bit about ircd programming :) i even don't understand your comment < 1441148112 322230 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps not. < 1441148140 300689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1441148140 402692 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the war is over. i don't know < 1441148369 586534 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1441148568 769684 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1441149858 91912 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds