< 1441411860 357936 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1441412194 510118 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat JOIN :#esoteric < 1441412199 469127 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :++++++++[>++++[>++>+++>+++>+<<<<-]>+>+>->>+[<]<-]>>.>---.+++++++..+++.>>.<-.<.+++.------.--------.>>+.>++. < 1441412224 351326 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf . < 1441412224 933549 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1441412231 600879 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++[>++++[>++>+++>+++>+<<<<-]>+>+>->>+[<]<-]>>.>---.+++++++..+++.>>.<-.<.+++.------.--------.>>+.>++. < 1441412232 326407 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World! < 1441412233 65530 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: !bf doesn't logread < 1441412244 183741 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I was testing if that was the correct command < 1441412250 715078 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's one of them. < 1441412251 608821 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's the return of Schrödinger's Cat! < 1441412257 546497 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a few that work < 1441412259 794741 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :meow < 1441412265 266621 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget what settings !bf uses < 1441412275 737243 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think 8-bit cells and [something]. < 1441412284 423013 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lyka: the thing is we couldn't exactly check if you were alive or not, for fear it would kill you < 1441412312 159935 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, 8. < 1441412342 964210 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of !bf, !bf8, !bf16 and !bf32 call into the same script, which sets BW from the command name, defaulting to 8, and then calls egobfi$BW. < 1441412371 746441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++[>++++++++<-]>+>-[<.>-] < 1441412372 119506 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1441412384 345070 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be 256 exclamation marks there in an 8-bit wrapping impl < 1441412399 734653 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it'll measure the cell size in other impls too, but that'd be too many exclamation marks to fit onto one line) < 1441412402 394021 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, not 256, 255 < 1441412406 611016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And egobfi defaults to EOF-0, wrapping (actually, "wrappong", according to the README). < 1441412467 709827 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: did I tell you I made a BF implementation which saturates at -1 going downwards, has bignums going upwards, and uses -1 for EOF? < 1441412479 629007 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wishes she understood at least half of what you talk about here
< 1441412484 634052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't run because it's written in an unimplemented language and compiles into another unimplemented language? < 1441412485 364684 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrappong is a version of pong where, if your opponent misses, the ball wraps around, and the score isn't affected. < 1441412490 600341 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of like zen pong. < 1441412563 197798 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No, but it sounds like an interesting choice. I guess you can clear any cell with something like [--+]? < 1441412580 522955 :Wright_!~Wright@98.225.44.92 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441412581 467239 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+[-]-+ works < 1441412591 398798 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but [--+] is shorter, come to think of it < 1441412598 790524 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly less efficient. < 1441412613 764475 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1441412625 564704 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "two steps forward, one step back" method. Or maybe it's the other way around. < 1441412663 722087 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf8 .[+.] < 1441412664 25327 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1441412677 55916 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lyka: what did you expect that to do? < 1441412679 463341 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you want one initial + there. < 1441412692 120352 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :current tape element starts at 0, then the loop doesn't run because outputting it doesn't change the value < 1441412695 946968 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf8 .+[.+] < 1441412696 282865 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1441412715 567195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: that BF program is the main reason that this channel is +C < 1441412729 866522 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not understand < 1441412735 170382 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think outputting a 0 might cut the output short on EgoBot. < 1441412736 301799 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be that EgoBot can't output NUL < 1441412741 229508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf8 +[.+] < 1441412741 553166 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​......... \ ..................... !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~�������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������� < 1441412745 435521 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, that's it < 1441412750 191817 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NUL is used as "end of string" by many languages < 1441412770 625579 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is a scow convention, by the way. < 1441412873 27376 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,....>.<....!same here < 1441412873 191982 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssss < 1441412891 600071 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I recall correctly, that's the STRN fingerprint using 0 as a terminator. < 1441412903 855433 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, Wiktionary defines "scow" as "A large flat-bottomed boat, having broad, square ends.", plus a verb "To transport in a scow." < 1441412908 771655 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither of these meanings seem relevant < 1441412931 599329 :Lyka!scat@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PART :#esoteric < 1441412933 484961 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I want to try thutubot but don't think it /has/ a BF interp < 1441412941 343427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq knows what it means. < 1441412987 950970 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, just Underload and Haskell < 1441413051 514335 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's true, I know what it means. < 1441413056 339330 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scow means scow. < 1441413083 834184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Anagrams: cows" < 1441413097 57732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scow as in "garbage scow" < 1441413108 588044 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the scow of X" is something like the worst specimen of X < 1441413179 227477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I'm curious whether the word "victory" has made its way into the lexicon. < 1441413196 86968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably it wouldn't happen before the next sauzzle. < 1441413198 159660 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've not heard it. < 1441413234 947057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although the next sauzzle is never very far away... < 1441413271 156498 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :For now, I am deeply contemplating a nap. < 1441413323 311554 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to say "well 'victory' is actually a real word", but so is 'scow', I guess < 1441413564 349425 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I insufficiently sleeped? < 1441413657 131315 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Would you say "sauzzle" is a real word? < 1441413679 255289 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's not one I'm aware of < 1441413693 422081 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might be more familiar with an alternate spelling and tense. < 1441413727 806679 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear "sozzled" is common in the UK. < 1441413863 802258 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1441415319 330704 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1441415652 505652 :Wright_!~Wright@98.225.44.92 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1441415950 880948 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, that's common in the UK < 1441417460 397319 :grotewold!~grotewold@c-68-50-42-113.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441418153 662431 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: at my school, your degree is not officially awarded until the ceremony < 1441418159 837561 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :same here I think < 1441418175 637729 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get it awarded early only if you have an actual need, such as to get a visa < 1441418186 295672 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to get a US visa, the customs officials must see your actual diploma) < 1441418253 304852 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1441418351 266807 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: hmm, you need a PhD to visit the US nowadays? < 1441418568 833942 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No, but certain visas may require proof of your education. < 1441418569 93630 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: on a TN work visa, which requires a degree < 1441418592 928361 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you just want to visit and you're from the UK, you just show up. < 1441418595 530210 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they won't accept "this person is confirmed to get a degree on such-and-such date", they need the actual degree < 1441418605 547035 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: don't you need to sign up for a visa waiver dealie in advance now? < 1441418612 411379 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought only canadians could just show up now < 1441418642 261358 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: WTF really? < 1441418643 464997 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know a Brit who visited the US recently < 1441418648 728610 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate US immigration even more now. < 1441418649 877485 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and had to fill out a bunch of forms online in advance < 1441418655 242997 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, when I visited Canada < 1441418663 4028 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was allowed to just turn up, but I had to fill out forms while on the plane < 1441418669 158088 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and was given a short interview by border control when I arrived < 1441418674 338868 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: whoa whoa whoa, you're moving to the US? < 1441418726 425096 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't think coppro has implied that? < 1441418742 207905 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canada will be the same as of next March apparently < 1441418742 576496 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He hasn't. < 1441418754 419676 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess "whoa whoa whoa" has multiple meanings. < 1441418784 356887 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for Canada, it's an online thing that according to the government website is usually approved within minutes, and the total cost is $7 < 1441418814 125567 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole "paper-form-on-the-plane-plus-interview" thing must presumably be quite expensive < 1441418834 13836 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it cuts out the paper form. Maybe it does? < 1441418858 247804 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the US one costs $4 to apply and $10 to get approved < 1441418865 919266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Which forms? < 1441418882 332341 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: when visiting Canada, I had to fill out a form while physically on the plane < 1441418902 24184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the ESTA thing. < 1441418934 666847 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's possible to avoid that by traveling to Canada first. < 1441418968 614802 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1441418975 374968 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's something different < 1441418992 147775 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Canadian form he's talking about is the standard customs declaration card, just saying who you are and what you have with you < 1441418998 283285 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's common to most countries < 1441419003 572352 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in different forms, obviously) < 1441419015 79608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm talking about ais523's known Brit. < 1441419018 548051 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also can you avoid the ESTA by going via Canada? nothing I've seen indicates that you can do that < 1441419038 638469 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: If you arrive by land from Canada. < 1441419038 959422 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it was on a website somewhere, I don't really know the details < 1441419044 162893 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or so https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_System_for_Travel_Authorization says. < 1441419155 219986 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: aaaah < 1441419157 780320 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking by air < 1441419209 976386 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I traveled from the US to Canada and back by land once. < 1441419223 636333 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was much easier in one direction. < 1441419284 391571 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me guess. the to Canada direction. < 1441419294 470683 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1441419335 338161 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah, by leaving AMERICA you've proven you're a muslimterroristantichrist < 1441419375 226801 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh ok so the ESTA replaces the I-94W form < 1441419395 164602 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :which visa waiver people used to have to fill out after landing < 1441419427 923635 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if Canada had a similar form < 1441419439 874519 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: But not in advance. < 1441419515 30185 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: right < 1441419522 596185 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you need to do it in advance of leaving < 1441419990 783711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing that amused me was that at the airport where I landed in canada < 1441420000 905862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were two sections, one for flights to the US, one for flights to the rest of the world < 1441420003 968409 :grotewold!~grotewold@c-68-50-42-113.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1441420008 205284 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the US part seemed to have much tighter security < 1441420142 721700 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The US part has customs preclearance < 1441420156 603908 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are US customs officers there, and once you are through that you go through security and into a contained area < 1441420166 929306 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, so the idea is that you don't have to go through customs again in the US? < 1441420170 97523 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1441420174 70999 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me of the setup in the Channel Tunnel < 1441420178 951021 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1441420181 320647 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are French border guards on the UK side and vice versa < 1441420191 584419 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very convenient for a number of reasons. One of the big ones is getting to fly to smaller US airports < 1441420227 817391 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :since they can do customs clearance on the departure side, they don't need border officials at the other end < 1441420229 791892 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(apparently we pushed for that several years ago to reduce the number of illegal migrants who managed to get onto a Eurotunnel train via the usual channels and then claimed asylum while on UK soil but before getting through customs) < 1441420241 612608 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because nowadays our border officers can say no while the migrant is still physically in France) < 1441420242 224808 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahah < 1441420269 67861 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Once we drove to Canada and then flew outside the continent, but going through a US airport. < 1441420287 581498 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: So we had to go through US customs, but in Canada, as part of leaving the US. < 1441420293 821792 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: lol < 1441420295 721395 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you do that? < 1441420301 345026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1441420323 343654 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the segregation also allows them to put weaker security checks on the non-US-bound flights because the US insists on "stronger" security < 1441420346 651528 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they respect TSA Pre✓? < 1441420363 72126 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: the US insistence is relative? i.e. "travel to the US must be held to more stringent standards than your usual"? < 1441420366 864492 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :✓✓✔✔ < 1441420379 954495 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no. It's still Canadian security agents. < 1441420386 397198 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Oh, that would be a great system. < 1441420389 395813 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The US doesn't give a rat's ass about non-US flights. < 1441420409 290654 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"please spend 2/3 of the average resources on screening Canada-bound flights" < 1441420410 145728 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: unless they go near US airspace < 1441420412 465816 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't think it's relative, I think it's just that they want things like for a while they wanted shoes scanned, and the like < 1441420430 753682 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember they were asking for US-level security checks on flights to/from Canada that went sufficiently close to US airspace < 1441420437 359745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I no longer need to have my shoes scanned in US flights. < 1441420438 436772 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :were they? < 1441420439 316624 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably on the basis that the plane might be diverted, or something < 1441420455 245096 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that they require copies of the passenger manifest for all flights that go over the US < 1441420460 322225 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that could be it < 1441420478 560551 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a kerfuffle because the Canadian government had to pass legislation to allow it < 1441421772 543770 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1441423694 567217 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-howchxuskjmcbpdt QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1441423785 198921 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441423808 341031 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-hfvwzvgasvkdabgn JOIN :#esoteric < 1441424016 186550 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1441424182 328844 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have all the green stars now < 1441424372 673559 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :we do? < 1441424374 967772 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good < 1441424380 394377 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't aware we were missing any < 1441424384 941550 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :now we can do the perfect run < 1441426083 283705 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1441427586 609262 :lemurian!~sh4n3@unaffiliated/lemurian QUIT :Quit: Konversation terminated! < 1441428052 738071 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDream < 1441428075 302184 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1441430165 301317 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1441430558 444198 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I made up a "Bad at Magic Items" flaw for Dungeons&Dragons game, although the name isn't very good probably I should change it. It is: http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/flaw/bad_at_magic_items < 1441430598 678411 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you know how to play this game you can tell me if there is something wrong with it please. < 1441430615 351391 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: which edition? < 1441430643 143751 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 3.5 edition < 1441430670 925882 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"skills" should be "skill checks", other than that it seems to work rules-wise, but it would be a really big drawback < 1441430677 580233 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so most players would choose not to take it < 1441430749 830679 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80e-20.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1441430751 363327 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't want to make it too minor either < 1441430854 463902 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, definitely < 1441430864 61545 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're erring on the right side there, most flaws are apparently really broken < 1441431046 555084 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you think it is too severe how to changed to make not too minor either though? < 1441431320 610651 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, the save penalty is probably the biggest effect there < 1441431324 73533 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you remove it it's probably too minor < 1441431656 278877 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441431890 916879 :Walpurgisnacht!~ah@c-24-56-248-51.customer.broadstripe.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441432718 707800 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The name isn't very good either I think < 1441433044 914484 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1441433103 306926 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-36-170.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1441433144 986965 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-36-170.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1441433145 162046 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1441433168 274572 :Walpurgisnacht!~ah@c-24-56-248-51.customer.broadstripe.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1441434066 970208 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of interesting features are there in CLIs? < 1441434119 589205 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it depend what kind of CLI? < 1441434301 978821 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like < 1441434309 109404 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A traditional CLI < 1441434327 801809 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpy f1 f2 -f >> f3 < 1441434388 37926 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What other features are there? < 1441434402 903785 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see if I can think of it < 1441434430 535683 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should we design a True EsoShell? < 1441434452 641434 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can try, if you have some idea how to design it. < 1441434608 710176 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1441434786 208414 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Think of any rare-but-useful shell features yet? < 1441434838 567772 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@93-231-58-66.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :The fnord never strikes twice in the same fnord | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/ < 1441435792 926026 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1441437441 605790 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1441437957 335157 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441439418 497034 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1441440130 194201 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-30-120.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1441440380 874034 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80e-20.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1441441979 857085 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80e-20.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1441442354 592663 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80e-20.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1441444035 276088 :sc00fy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1441445351 252218 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1441447113 209604 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1441447416 843049 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:ShortScript14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=44044 5* 03YourDeathIsComing 5* (+76) 10Created page with "If you have any suggestions for this language please feel free to post them." < 1441447842 944837 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441448170 960192 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1441448644 573657 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441449374 181296 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441449383 291897 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is single-line Befunge-98 Turing-complete? < 1441449769 174101 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1441449907 249773 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441450160 542636 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ox0dea: almost certainly yes < 1441450171 616298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people have written "effectively Unefunge" Befunge in the past < 1441450189 166828 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1441450192 827524 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, well, Unefunge itself is considered TC I think and that's basically identical to one-line Befunge-98 except that y coordinates don't exist < 1441450208 295277 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. the g/p commands can't be used to read/write off your line) < 1441450393 512822 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Hm, information on Unefunge appears to be quite scarce. < 1441450411 734209 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ox0dea: it's mentioned in the official docs for Befunge-98, but it's basically just a one-line mention < 1441450422 648549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that if you remove the y coordinate, newlines, and all commands that require two dimensions to exist < 1441450426 889127 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you get Unefunge < 1441450441 288600 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441450441 452727 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1441450441 452788 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1441450464 567589 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but that it remains TC after being gutted so isn't immediately obvious. < 1441450497 90044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only really hard part is loops, and you can use a flying IP for that < 1441450512 671545 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1441451836 748775 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ziim14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44045&oldid=38420 5* 03Timwi 5* (+28) 10Fix important mistake < 1441451868 811715 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mistake itself was important? < 1441451890 560586 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ox0dea: ? < 1441451904 102563 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The changelog message there? < 1441451907 424984 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, now I'm trying to translate 0x0dea into decimal in my head < 1441451921 660118 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0x0dea < 1441451923 335537 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3562 < 1441451932 352986 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that rather ruins it, but fair enough < 1441451948 63430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the point hth < 1441451951 180945 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(strangely enough, I'm in the habit of using bash to translate hex into decimal) < 1441451972 672034 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shall we golf? < 1441452000 5013 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, never mind; `printf` is a thing. < 1441452039 679659 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $((0x0dea)) < 1441452040 255029 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3562 < 1441452053 316550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no printf required for hex→decimal (only to convert the other way round) < 1441452096 969438 :Ox0dea!~Ox0dea@67-8-103-140.res.bhn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL. < 1441453509 501066 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1441453554 187012 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1441453569 510752 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1441453592 866917 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Client Quit < 1441453611 334555 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1441453611 498675 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1441455374 315382 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-30-120.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1441455394 208585 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1441455468 661811 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/44Cqut5S <- suggestions. < 1441455478 196406 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to come up with an open source license that has privacy restrictions. < 1441455541 325219 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1441455625 478944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: that can't be open source by definition (no restriction on fields of endeavour), although you can make it "like" open source < 1441456140 244794 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1441456155 668424 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1441457285 204398 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1441457348 354976 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1441457453 954649 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Malbrain14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44046&oldid=43731 5* 03Paul2520 5* (+168) 10 < 1441457729 575175 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1441457753 318315 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441457753 482700 :lleu!~gnomebad@88.202.254.4 QUIT :Changing host < 1441457753 482759 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1441457811 187023 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1441457948 889872 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1441458136 321306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, Agatha definitely has to go to that family party... < 1441459036 303141 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441459055 668956 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1441461471 205448 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBS < 1441461620 373909 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1441461806 444938 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1441461856 405785 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441461941 14896 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1441462128 397393 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1441462172 591899 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1441462580 344923 :FilthyCasual!5355f0a8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.85.240.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441462589 198619 :FilthyCasual!5355f0a8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.85.240.168 PART :#esoteric < 1441463323 196093 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1441464375 600049 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Quit: Boot tut gut™ < 1441464589 394925 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1441464781 531058 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, that TTS update schedule... < 1441465058 784299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :TTS? < 1441465093 991379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh tuesday-thursday-saturday < 1441465124 324396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yeah at this rate they should switch to that officially. except then they'll just slip another day. < 1441465298 982098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :beausoleil is a bit inscrutable, is he evil or _just_ arrogant < 1441465319 843494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose they make it ambiguous on purpose < 1441465399 631420 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :evil? opportunistic, perhaps, and used to being smarter than most people around him < 1441465468 990655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well my question is whether he was behind any of the assassination attempts. although with the Family involved, he seems redundant. < 1441465505 282361 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if he was, we'll probably find out < 1441465518 669652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(does the family have any official name? they certainly don't all share a surname) < 1441465593 608884 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what, girl genius has a cast list? < 1441465733 136300 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Sturmvoraus family, I'd call them. < 1441465768 427676 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why is it that this is the first time I notice that this is german... < 1441465879 787531 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see, shopping, laundry, lambdabot maintenance that I promised for last weekend... better get busy :) < 1441466148 215669 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.221 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441466202 719989 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.221 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1441466465 835163 :sc00fy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1441466919 572066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1441467670 515696 :grotewold!~grotewold@c-68-50-42-113.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441467924 356638 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1441467990 373433 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1441468196 676530 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1441468867 38209 :grotewold!~grotewold@c-68-50-42-113.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1441468897 237654 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1441469220 304552 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-30-120.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1441470448 644760 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good noon < 1441470496 850969 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks moon < 1441470497 675569 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, moon. Thoon. < 1441471075 792953 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks ants < 1441471076 407665 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, ants. Thants. < 1441471100 803777 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks things < 1441471101 438514 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, things. Things. < 1441471109 270980 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1441471459 88694 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441471528 874448 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks 谷風 < 1441471529 432600 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, 谷風. T��風. < 1441471538 850873 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1441471710 479706 :rodgort!~rodgort@105.ip-167-114-152.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1441471952 372400 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1441471957 349335 :rodgort!~rodgort@2607:5300:100:200::160d JOIN :#esoteric < 1441472132 437839 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` PERL_UNICODE=SDA thanks 谷風 < 1441472133 340379 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, 谷風. T風. < 1441472182 563877 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i -e 's/perl/perl -CSDA/' bin/thanks < 1441472184 362695 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1441472189 162479 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks 谷風 < 1441472189 886060 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, 谷風. T風. < 1441472193 334355 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fixed" it. < 1441472212 311333 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although the "algorithm" is still pretty latin-alphabet-only. < 1441472293 657052 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spoilers: it's "if there's any character [aeiouy], replace anything before that by 'Th'; otherwise, replace the first character by 'T'." < 1441472352 877465 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1441472846 500573 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441472872 39922 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Malbrain14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44047&oldid=44046 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+266) 10:-) < 1441473118 164453 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441473145 452565 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat bin/thanks < 1441473146 123247 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl -CSDA \ $_ = (join " ", @ARGV) || `words`; s/^\s+|\s+$//g; print "Thanks, $_. "; if (/[aeiouyAEIOUY]/) { s/^[^aeiouyAEIOUY]*/Th/; } else { s/^./T/; } print "$_."; < 1441473181 41136 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl: the mainstream esolang < 1441473237 888877 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to program vim so that the delete key does not store deleted text in the register by default (but other commands to delete text in normal mode do store the text in the register)? < 1441473269 154566 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441473278 510789 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1441473327 883679 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::noremap x "_x < 1441473330 244010 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1441473454 939062 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1441473482 843683 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1441473636 353823 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would still want x and d to save the deleted text, and still want to allow delete key to be used with an explicit register, just to change the default if delete is used instead of d or x or some other command < 1441474031 843284 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1441474252 785746 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.221 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441474372 940916 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.221 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1441474391 956067 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying :noremap "_ does not seem to do anything? < 1441475203 332040 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1441475482 419147 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441475510 282554 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441475575 322023 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1441475930 845181 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using my Wii U, I can watch youtube on my CRT TV < 1441475984 349810 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it comforting to have a raygun pointed at my face? < 1441476041 258002 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1441477684 142121 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a lot of homophones that come from initial consonant clusters that English people are lazy to pronounce: write–right–rite–wright, wrap–rap, wrest–rest, knight–night, knot–not. < 1441477754 755410 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK yes I suppose I can see them too < 1441477763 836964 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :English is full of crazy homophones. there's verbs like sew–sow, raise–raze; mathematical functions sine–sign; < 1441477771 639983 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Swap those two lines. < 1441477805 611706 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, English is full if stupid stuff like that and others < 1441477842 987646 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of those are due to the loss of velar fricatives < 1441477877 360000 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: what? which one? < 1441477895 935231 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gh is how to voiced velar fricative used to be written < 1441477911 868955 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :replace to with the < 1441477919 688699 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1441477963 715014 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so right would be riɣt < 1441478011 649216 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is now /rait/ < 1441478048 864288 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :v < 1441478121 799600 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the v is because I temporarily switched to an different keymap and forgot that control-v didn't mean paste) < 1441478127 879483 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_velar_fricative < 1441478155 207551 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441478409 960093 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441478650 146172 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 < 1441479079 874485 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1441479328 826988 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is this? EFCDAB89 isn't representable as a UInt32??? < 1441479501 560308 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha! < 1441479543 785031 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, look, the result of the ICFP contest is now announced! < 1441479633 791252 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of a possibility that my "Bad at Magic Items" flaw, to change it so that in addition to attacks/saves/skills it also affects AC and SR, but only penalizes them in situations where magic is involved or to cancel out a magical bonus, and otherwise does not penalize them; and that if activating an item would do nothing anyways then you aren't stunned either. Does this seem to make it better? < 1441479671 707750 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: um what? I don't understand that whole thing. what are you talking about? < 1441479671 941753 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first place: Team Eel? < 1441479685 512853 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1441479696 214137 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I mean this: http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/flaw/bad_at_magic_items < 1441479701 773958 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :eels are known for their electrical engineering prowess < 1441479705 338707 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think the name is also not very good and should be improved.) < 1441479719 104493 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I should write the first word as EEls. < 1441479731 3893 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: good point < 1441479775 397755 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So a bunch of Japanese Eels, using a lot of languages at once, won the contest. < 1441479820 729361 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We officially declare that C++, Java, C#, PHP, Ruby and Haskell are the programming tools of choice for discriminating hackers! < 1441479835 510621 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ PHP? augh < 1441479866 157002 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Perl. < 1441479877 577634 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Do you understand this? < 1441479878 591376 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ruby is okay ish, but Haskell and C# are the only ones on that list that are functional < 1441479900 775026 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C# is functional specifically if you're using LINQ < 1441479916 559822 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I agree PHP isn't very good, nevertheless I have written a few programs in PHP (as well as in various others) < 1441479952 224786 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written entire 1000 line web applications in PHP. I still don't like it < 1441479980 994987 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is easy to use, but... just ugly < 1441479986 799973 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I have written standalone programs in PHP too, still not as good as C and JavaScript and so on < 1441479987 236124 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Javascript is kind of nice, as long as you don't try to interact with the browser ;) < 1441479995 462099 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeha < 1441479996 240990 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes, I agree < 1441480210 156542 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1441480210 995728 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441480358 397354 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think yesterday it was ais523 who comment about my "Bad at Magic Items" flaw. But I want to know how to make improved, if anyone else has idea too. I believe the name should be changed too, if you know how to make the better name of it < 1441480540 345562 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aggressivly Mundane? < 1441480568 33273 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Were were you the last 3 rounds? -- Oh, I accidently stumbled into my bag of holding, took me ages to find the way back. ) < 1441480593 885109 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, yes that is one idea of the name, thank you < 1441480610 691632 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1441480746 714494 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: um, I don't know, I don't really know much about DnD style magic items in first place, so I can't really tell what this flaw is like < 1441480800 556434 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: does this mean you can still fire expensive +5 arrows from your non-magical bow without a penalty? < 1441480820 435205 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: and what does SR mean in first place? < 1441480822 183409 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1441480836 500587 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: SR means spell resistance < 1441480843 695238 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1441480883 445884 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it does not mean you can fire expensive +5 arrows from your non-magical bow without a penalty; you take a -1 penalty. Although I suppose as worded it doesn't but I need to fix that! < 1441480891 51323 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you for noticing that! < 1441480983 488293 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is this a flaw that a character would have if they're a barbarian or druid who doesn't rely much on items, but does martial arts bare-handed or with an ordinary quarterstick, or leads other people or animals to a fight? < 1441481056 15228 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or if you use mundane items much more than magical < 1441481056 740457 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or could a sorcerer or psion take this reasonably, if they don't want to use permanent magic items, but instead manage all the magic themselves or at most use scrolls and potions? < 1441481086 728531 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does reading scrolls come with a use magic device check? < 1441481111 506010 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or does the “activate any magic item other than a spell completion item” cover a scroll or a magic potion? < 1441481121 201099 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reading scrolls sometimes requires a use magic device check; it does if you could not otherwise figure out the spell < 1441481136 257191 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A scroll is a spell completion item. A potion is not; it does cover potions. < 1441481178 179165 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you scribed the scroll yourself you could always figure it out though. < 1441481182 684783 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. < 1441481191 383515 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scribing scrolls yourself is expensive though! < 1441481214 580870 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you don't scribe the scroll, that would need you using a magic item, namely a magic marker < 1441481231 694187 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, it's also expensive, it requires xp and feats and stuff < 1441481240 707209 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and knowing the spell < 1441481252 289724 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it does require those things. < 1441481520 698304 :mihow!~mihow@c-76-27-244-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1441481723 370745 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now many possible changes have been figure out; do you think it can be good enough with all of these changes? < 1441481736 76938 :TieSoul_!~quassel@86.89.119.147 NICK :TieSoul < 1441481903 205068 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1441482514 304266 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I made many changes now (including the filename) < 1441482865 181761 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/gallery/TWY4LbE this < 1441483087 164430 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some idea that if you make PDF viewing program, to have default mode which mostly ignores the restrictions of operations, and also compliance mode which follow the restriction as specified in the file. Even in default mode though a lock icon is shown for operations that are marked as restricted, but they work anyways; for user-specified colors, the option now in addition to "When document does not specify" and "Always" is also "When document < 1441483228 119984 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Annotations and forms and so on would not be loaded by default if the document restricts these functions, but can still be used if the user explicitly selects them by menu or command-line. < 1441483310 472185 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you agree with these kind of thing? < 1441483329 68936 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :your message was cropped after 'in addition to "When document does not specify" and "Always" is also "When document' < 1441483355 882520 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for user-specified colors, the option now in addition to "When document does not specify" and "Always" is also "When document does not restrict" < 1441483407 961486 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: This sounds similar though not identical to the approach taken by mupdf. < 1441483432 584311 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :mupdf intentionally omts several of those features because they're terrible. :) < 1441483512 868633 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen information about another program which has an option to turn on/off whether these restrictions are applied, but I think my way would make it more useful, so that even if you want to print it anyways, you can still know if the author was trying to prevent you from printing it. < 1441483565 22617 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, huh, mupdf did implement them. Optionally. < 1441483591 256760 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note that mupdf is mostly a PDF *library* though; it ships with some utils, but they're pretty rough UI-wise) < 1441483619 847354 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Due to what is in the document it might require its own colors, that is why there should be three choice for such reason < 1441483790 956856 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sure, and you should be able to switch the colors at run-time for just a document if you want < 1441483832 367920 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like how I normally set my browsers to use the fonts I choose only, but on oren's bitmap font demonstration page I temporarily want to allow his font < 1441484250 381583 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int dir = (i % 2 == 0 ? 1 : -1); for (int pol = dir > 0 ? 0 : 1; dir > 0 ? pol <= 1 : pol >= 0; pol += dir) ... in retrospect, coming back to this snippet after a year, I'm not quite sure this was the best way of expressing "iterate alternatingly 0,1 or 1,0". < 1441484292 293063 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I have absolutely no idea *why* it needs to do that. < 1441484454 101732 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh, I start to vaguely remember. But that's horrible, and doubly so is not to put a comment here. < 1441484471 519646 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-221-216.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1441484929 605614 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful < 1441485100 497152 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, int pol = i % 2; for (int c = 0; c < 2; c++, pol ^= 1)... < 1441485135 193580 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pol = i & 1 <-- would be more in line with the xor. < 1441485178 777953 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: For the record, it was part of gearlanced.c, and it needs to alternate because executing a single match has the side effect of flipping the right program's polarity. < 1441485208 476397 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(dir, pol) = (1 - pol, 1 - dir) < 1441485239 923535 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :python? < 1441485256 729385 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell, with leading let also rust < 1441485267 969912 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in haskell that will bottom out < 1441485269 560525 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :python maybe, too < 1441485283 703612 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah < 1441485295 322335 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also Python. < 1441485304 217064 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though by convention it would be written without the parentheses, I think. < 1441485325 872281 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iterate (\(x, y) -> (1-x, 1-y)) (1, 0) < 1441485334 700002 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ml, but that also needs a let. < 1441485360 676662 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :cycle [(1,0),(0,1)] < 1441485380 308379 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1441485384 965966 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1441485385 457020 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the iterate could be more efficient if it fuses < 1441485395 492793 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1441485476 76771 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as I understand, the cycle *will* allocate a two-element cyclic list on the heap, at least with ghc; the compiler isn't smart enough to see the structur. with fusion, the iterate version can end up with x and y in registers, being negated in each iteration. < 1441485536 96672 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1441485548 270559 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense < 1441485568 191 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just replaced it with int sieve = i % 2, kettle = !sieve; to get either 0,1 or 1,0; it used to be convoluted because it had to go in order as it was putchar'ing, but now it's writing to two separate arrays. (I'm making it a bit more easily extendable as preparation for being able to use the fancy don't-recompile hill stuff also for getting the visualization statistics. Trying to reach new ... < 1441485574 15942 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... levels of premature optimization, here.) < 1441485798 375916 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1441485850 226128 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441485942 262777 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Sigh* < 1441485963 252616 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1441486416 488966 :TieSoul_!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:8573:d2f5:3193:5f94 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441486670 972042 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1441486676 199222 :TieSoul_!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:8573:d2f5:3193:5f94 NICK :TieSoul < 1441486756 802372 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavello! < 1441486770 887341 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not quite certain how to pronounce that) < 1441486958 554070 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-65-246.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1441487049 416952 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-221-216.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1441487058 365209 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-65-246.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1441487098 167294 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot install a print server downstairs because a different router is used, but I had the other idea is the computer with the printer is the client instead, and then if it is turned on and enter the password it can download the PCL file from my computer and send it to the printer. < 1441487151 8953 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it is possible to do this with FreeDOS so that it does not take too long to start up the computer. < 1441487225 419728 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: um, how would FreeDOS help compared to a linux with most of the time-consuming stuff at boot disabled? < 1441487293 829196 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, in my experience, when I boot my PC, it takes 30 seconds to even get to the beginning of the boot loader, then between 30 and 40 seconds to boot up from that. But with a stripped down linux where you don't start much stuff, it would take only 10 seconds, so < 1441487296 479512 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much about how Linux is booting, but I know that FreeDOS boots very fast < 1441487310 779899 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at that point it doesn't matter whether you make it 10 second or 5 second, because the 30 seconds before that is what takes most of the time. < 1441487319 910916 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Less than ten seconds even < 1441487322 536777 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux proper boots practically instantly; it's the distros that make it suck. < 1441487334 259783 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, I know DOS boots instantly, especially if you use that magical switch in the config.sys so it doesn't deliberately sleep for one second < 1441487346 945922 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you're using a slow hard drive that is < 1441487376 267597 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the magical switch is SWITCHES=/F by the way < 1441487388 935601 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1441487392 742714 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to make a VM < 1441487396 373311 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's a 2 second sleep, not one seconds < 1441487405 735457 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that applies to MS-DOS, I don't know about FreeDOS < 1441487485 864872 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have used FreeDOS so I have figured out how to speed it up. < 1441487534 762974 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1441487642 960315 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On one computer I installed FreeDOS and a database program; the database program is ready before the CRT is ready if both are turned on at the same time. < 1441487714 176020 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This database program was designed to be used on a XT computer with floppy disks, but I had a much more modern computer and with a hard drive and FreeDOS, and past the year 2000, and yet it still works fine. < 1441487750 746943 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The only problem I found is it would not let me to enter telephone numbers with a 778 area code, and I did not figure out how to fix that.) < 1441487823 701924 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: is it running natively, or emulated under some other operating system? < 1441487832 6734 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I no longer run DOS natively < 1441487840 745674 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I run it emulated for games and similar < 1441487853 159106 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That computer ran DOS natively. I do not know if it is still in use since I do not work there anymore. < 1441487864 422734 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did run it natively for quite a long time though < 1441487930 909291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I run Linux on my own computer so I use an emulator to run various DOS games such as ZZT and Jazz Rabbit and so on. < 1441487996 402253 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is ZZT? < 1441488060 761476 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1441488352 925526 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1441488669 544097 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1441488761 74983 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WalVM < 1441489028 672268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1441489290 585448 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice quote, "It is easier to optimize correct code than to correct optimized code." (found on haskell-cafe) < 1441489308 712594 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(attributed to Bill Harlan) < 1441489574 693734 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:8573:d2f5:3193:5f94 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1441490024 887353 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The maximum number for a 2 byte instruction name is FEFE (in hex), right? < 1441490030 79391 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :255*255 < 1441490054 718118 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1441490056 221897 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1441490061 149943 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehhh < 1441490062 812806 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hex(255)+hex(255) < 1441490073 340246 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(+ is join) < 1441490081 721340 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hex() does not add 0x and produces a string) < 1441490091 613904 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is FFFF < 1441490092 704806 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making a VM < 1441490098 187053 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems like it < 1441490111 457863 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm including 0000 and such < 1441490114 311707 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0001 < 1441490116 6618 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0002 < 1441490117 484959 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etc < 1441490237 547323 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be 65536 possibilities < 1441490266 137843 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds right < 1441490349 382406 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The python program used for x in range(255) < 1441490352 905428 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for y in range(255) < 1441490355 694235 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where can I find test data for SHA < 1441490363 47329 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then concatenated the hexes of x and y < 1441490366 284606 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's 341664 in base 7, if my calculation is correct) < 1441490369 997981 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No clue < 1441490387 134842 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just hope it's right and add the rest manually if not < 1441490388 583960 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which it isn't :) < 1441490474 592796 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-65-246.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1441490568 215049 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^16 `div` 7^2 < 1441490570 162940 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1337 < 1441490618 502497 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's an idea for an ISA < 1441490640 795206 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown argument count < 1441490669 390007 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An instruction keeps consuming arguments until it meets an END instruction (which would be 0000, probably) < 1441490681 496501 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of ADD < 1441490683 663212 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have SUM < 1441490733 474121 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, how do you multiply by 0? < 1441490748 174264 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every input has a value of itself-1 < 1441490769 77653 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000 is abstractfully equal to -1 < 1441490779 310878 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1441490804 779721 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION patents that idea and makes a million billion dollars (long system, of course)
< 1441491237 699093 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: So do you like the idea? < 1441491357 975825 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not sure yet < 1441491374 500400 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are definitely flaws < 1441491380 651783 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ex: How the hell does branching work < 1441491404 969463 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRANCH 1 2 3 4 5; <--!? < 1441491419 872114 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps it's concurrent? < 1441491524 948460 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: Hi xD < 1441491531 367912 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: < 1441491531 568397 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: lucky you :) < 1441491533 213391 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: < 1441491533 378706 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i do this. < 1441491534 649947 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: < 1441491534 969702 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i was fnord before. when do _you_ use assigment? does doing so make you feel like drawing something. requests/ ideas anyone? < 1441491569 334268 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where does Fungot get his quotes? < 1441491575 34851 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or its < 1441491592 146098 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As fungot trancends our primitive ideas of gender and actual existence < 1441491592 363956 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the worst one was in the ' artic circle'. you just get numbers. you can have a proof like that < 1441491598 494804 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :these aren't quotes < 1441491610 418421 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are they generated sentences? < 1441491615 379392 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1441491618 590636 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa. < 1441491627 869402 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where are the quotes fungotten? < 1441491628 33999 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on different styles < 1441491628 34082 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: he appears to be completely missing. < 1441491638 724653 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dun dun dun < 1441491649 28317 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have any clue how BRANCH should work? < 1441491661 940940 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRANCH 5 1000000 69 42 8; < 1441491700 118404 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, naive idea would be goto < 1441491770 497572 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1441491772 534450 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course < 1441491777 941682 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be naive < 1441491783 179154 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I definitely didn't consider that < 1441491798 869084 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CALL a b c d would probably call a then b then c then d < 1441491840 906870 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAND would flourish in this language < 1441491852 645800 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAND a b c d picks one of them at random < 1441491906 538098 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Do you know of an /un/naive idea? < 1441491912 822922 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You kind of left me hanging there xD < 1441492034 15160 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it depends on your overall idea < 1441492038 838022 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course < 1441492039 427116 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do sone < 1441492042 194707 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1441492045 395067 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sone? < 1441492047 650594 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like what,c does < 1441492060 42344 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is? < 1441492078 443034 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. having a call that returns different values depending on the thread you are in < 1441492088 822976 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah? < 1441492094 154747 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a VM < 1441492101 438429 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know much about assembly xD) < 1441492106 449610 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've been meaning to learn it) < 1441492123 828587 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CALL and BRANCH are different, right? < 1441492140 601957 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1441492166 995839 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1441492179 388132 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are talking about something existing? < 1441492225 672157 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Every input has a value of itself-1 <-- then there will be a possible large argument value missing instead hth < 1441492234 69381 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1441492238 935867 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes there will be < 1441492242 535961 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not perfect xD < 1441492247 459456 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :minicat2 < 1441492282 688471 :minicat2!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1441492457 890468 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you like this for the SET instruction: < 1441492460 6513 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : if argc == 1, zero reg args[0] to 0. Else, set reg args[0] to args[1], reg args[0]+1 to args[2], etc. for length of arguments. < 1441492628 164278 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit oerjan < 1441492631 315036 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it's bugging me < 1441492637 584740 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any better ways to implement it? < 1441492654 878599 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I suppose I could do * < 1441492660 549066 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't like that < 1441492665 282042 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit ugly < 1441492721 165610 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's bugging me 'cause it'll mess up printing of the chr(0xFF) character < 1441492728 785096 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr(255) < 1441492730 128739 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : '\255' < 1441492738 15040 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> '\255' < 1441492739 403848 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : '\255' < 1441492749 649127 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> print('\255') < 1441492751 363573 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1441492755 654588 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK then < 1441492800 414549 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps an escape arg code? < 1441492815 435333 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FF could be the escape code < 1441492851 694757 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then to multiply by 0 you do FF 00 00 < 1441492865 484281 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname? < 1441492885 658845 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just bouncing ideas off of people and need to alert them to respond xD < 1441492891 183797 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably a "bit" annoying < 1441492921 740093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : . o O ( Were were you the last 3 rounds? -- Oh, I accidently stumbled into my bag of holding, took me ages to find the way back. ) <-- istr living things cannot survive in bags of holding < 1441492975 494707 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well C has similar problems printing \0's... < 1441492987 107016 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, escape chars are /pretty/ complex for an ISA < 1441493009 422156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var "\255" < 1441493011 171550 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : ÿ < 1441493062 646980 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var "\256" < 1441493064 585982 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ā < 1441493071 455516 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1441493074 431676 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must be Unifcode < 1441493090 97949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var [maxBound] < 1441493092 53871 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 􏿿 < 1441493095 97742 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well of course it is) < 1441493100 719829 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is the future) < 1441493119 438547 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So oerjan, what's a better idea: Escape chars or varlength args? < 1441493148 537119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :varlength seems less evil < 1441493154 266036 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1441493159 551489 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's also less fun < 1441493173 380466 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll do... < 1441493177 430652 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really don't know < 1441493187 26505 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imma go shower and think on it < 1441493768 768246 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll just settle for varlength < 1441493935 41654 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do I strictly need a NOP? < 1441494061 668527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if you can fake one... < 1441494445 355273 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1441494525 277005 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I provide builtin floating point operations? < 1441494628 978727 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what about hyperbolic sin/cos/tan? < 1441494674 395864 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441494762 549015 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO MANY CHOICES < 1441494774 787533 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HALP oerjan! < 1441494828 532383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so much vertical space tdnh < 1441494853 25817 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :root < 1441494858 130912 :root!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1441494938 606979 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And hyperbolic inverse sin/cos/tan too < 1441495041 245264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :PROVIDE ALL THE THINGS < 1441495120 674205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm is ordinary sin/cos/tan elliptic or parabolic < 1441495131 152944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and whichever it is, what's the third kind < 1441495187 433399 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hyperbolic is the third kind, I believe < 1441495195 150354 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1441495197 869175 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um no < 1441495213 272349 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And despite my limited knowledge, based on some snazzy diagrams I've seen on wikipedia, I would think it's elliptic given the circle shown < 1441495228 29480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP MISUNDERSTANDING ME < 1441495245 644909 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may not be making sense, but that is NO excuse < 1441495263 40251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyperbolic was the first one, which you mentioned < 1441495324 710350 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last time I checked, parabola =/= hyperbola < 1441495331 523004 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I could be spewing bullshit < 1441495335 955788 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is a very pleasant image < 1441495337 827760 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :paranoia = hypernoia?? < 1441495452 479254 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well duh < 1441495482 185844 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1441495513 222782 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got the registral, Arithmetical, Trigonometric, and Hyperbolic/Trigonometric < 1441495518 855039 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What to add next? < 1441495520 178420 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh < 1441495523 497016 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another project < 1441495538 793125 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISA with Geometric instructions < 1441495549 419358 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose next comes boolean < 1441495553 148197 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then control < 1441495623 546158 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, bitwise < 1441495991 300008 :oren!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heyppavilion can you try to keep each sentenc on one line please twh? < 1441496046 202286 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1441496066 701985 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I send messages as I think of them xD < 1441496070 524315 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, did it again < 1441496080 623716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats hppavilion[1] -----###
< 1441496089 285336 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whimpers
< 1441496094 728185 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it with a Mapole? < 1441496104 787326 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course not, with a swatter < 1441496106 466314 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mapole < 1441496107 676812 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. A regulatory mapole measures 6' by 12 kg, ±0.5 inHg. < 1441496108 84640 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1441496143 774933 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I currently have 1E instructions (which I don't want to dehex) < 1441496160 481811 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is that? 14? Yeah. 14. < 1441496189 979477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0x1E < 1441496191 668285 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 30 < 1441496198 54377 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right < 1441496199 97675 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1441496223 235277 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :E is 14. 1E is 16+14=30 < 1441496234 775369 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm an idiot < 1441496264 394687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :==oren < 1441496278 386546 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :please optimize your use of irc vertical space < 1441496283 406852 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a scarce resource < 1441496297 425909 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/hppavilion1/IndeterminantVM/blob/master/setdocs.txt < 1441496305 61376 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry again xD < 1441496358 916821 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They aren't very well ordered < 1441496370 190296 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably should've put off the trigonometric functions until later < 1441496371 340400 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441496418 488789 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably reorder them someday xD < 1441496435 371438 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit. I keep doing it. < 1441496525 581026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a comedy show at this point < 1441496624 226762 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1441496630 873920 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1441496658 282299 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went to see Jim Gaffigan yesterday < 1441496967 950725 :Aearnus!~Aearnus@ip98-177-203-231.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441496991 467585 :Aearnus!~Aearnus@ip98-177-203-231.ph.ph.cox.net NICK :Guest58128