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It was created in 2015 by [[User:OriginalOldMan]]. ==Data== As suggested ..." 00:35:16 -!- mihow has joined. 00:35:22 [wiki] [[GreekVM]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=44094 * Hppavilion1 * (+242) Created Page 00:35:59 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Quit: WALRUS MAAAAAAAAAAAAN). 00:36:27 -!- mihow has quit (Client Quit). 00:36:59 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 00:39:46 [wiki] [[GreekVM]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44095&oldid=44094 * Hppavilion1 * (+363) Memory 00:41:39 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 01:13:36 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 01:16:08 -!- synthetiques has joined. 01:25:54 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 01:26:07 In today's Dungeons&Dragons session (with Kjugobe, not the new one) I used four items that had been in my inventory for some time and hadn't been used yet; these are an afro, nail clipper, beard clipper, and an IOU. 01:26:59 (All were used to help a prisoner to escape from prison so that he could help us; he is the only one who could anyways) 01:32:50 -!- synthetiques has quit (Quit: Leaving...). 01:33:01 -!- StarkillerHollow has joined. 01:33:26 -!- StarkillerHollow has left. 01:49:43 new characters! ☉☊☋☌☍☎☏☭☮☯♈♉♊♋♌♍♎♏♐♑♒♓⟰⟱⇫⇬⇭⇮⇯⇰⇱⇲⇳⇴ѮѯѸѹѺѻ 01:51:17 Fixed in Unicode-mode (the xterm used for the IRC is in UTF-8 mode) can display all but two, it looks like. 01:52:38 I can see astrological signs as well as a few other symbols used in astrology, but also things on the right I do not know (perhaps the resolution is too small to figure out?) 01:56:14 Oh god 01:56:26 I just switched to NeoLetters as my IRCing typeface 01:56:39 What is this, Hebrew!? 01:56:45 Fuckin' zionists... 01:56:46 xD 01:56:52 * hppavilion[1] is not racist 01:57:17 it's supposed to look techy 01:57:21 It does 01:57:29 it does support hebrew though: 01:57:39 Like the kind of tech they would've used if they had invented computers in Biblical times 01:57:46 אבגדהוזחטיךכלםמן 01:57:46 נסעףפץצקרשתװױײ׳״ 01:57:49 I'm reading about ring theory :) 01:58:04 In case you want to study Bible, it is helpful to be able to write Hebrew with it too. 01:58:05 It'll come in handy with my "study" of Ancient Walrusian Mathematics 01:59:11 I'm switching to courrier new so my eyes don't bleed (from sheer beauty, that is) 01:59:26 What should the number system for Ancient Walrusian Mathematics be like? 01:59:32 Perhaps color-based? 01:59:35 I am using Fixed, the same font for IRC as for the UNIX shell 02:00:04 I'm not discussing numeric encoding. I'm discussing how the Ring should behave 02:00:15 Maybe heavy focus on the quaternions in matrices? 02:00:31 Note that the version of neoletters on Fontstruct isn't as good as the one on my website. I do adjectments to the font metrics in font forge before uploading it 02:00:32 The Walrusians were a hyperintelligent race of Walruses. They were practically gods 02:01:19 in particular, Windows runs the letters together too much if I don't adject the font metrics 02:01:32 s/adject/adjust 02:01:34 I should stop saying "were," as the Walrusians kind of trancended our dimension and left our notions of time. "were" "are" and "will be" are meaningless when describing them unless discussing their history in this universe 02:02:06 the most current version is http://www.orenwatson.be/neolettersC.ttf 02:02:23 various kinds (such as /triangular/) quaternion matrices, no less 02:02:30 Yes, but in the kind of writing about time-travel and similar stuff like that, the language is not design to it and can be confusing!!! 02:03:40 oren: Can you please tell me what is the new characters? Some I can figure out but some I do not undertsand I hoped you would know what it means. 02:04:07 It's not time travel. It's trancendence of space and time into a sixteen-dimensional universe. 02:04:38 hppavilion[1]: I know it is not time travel, as you have already explained; what I meant is that the language is just as confusing (perhaps more so) than time travel 02:04:51 Ah 02:06:17 -!- tromp_ has joined. 02:06:55 zzo38: it is the hammer and sickle, the hippie sign, the yin-yang sign, the 12 zodiac signs, some astrological symbols, the black and white phones, some misc. arrows, and some cyrillic letters 02:07:48 There's no such thing as triangular matrices in human mathematics, is there? 02:08:02 Not like ones with zeroes in them to make it a triangle 02:08:04 I found that 02:08:14 I'm not sure if hippie sign is the correct name for ☮ but that's what i call it 02:08:35 But matrices like this: 02:08:38 0 02:08:40 1 2 02:08:44 3 4 5 02:08:51 6 7 8 9 10 02:09:00 Invent it, how is it multiply together? 02:09:07 zzo38: I'm working on that 02:09:15 Element-by-element multiplication is easy 02:09:20 It doesn't seem a matrix, a triangular matrix is a new kind of thing rather than a matrix 02:09:34 hppavilion[1]: Yes, but I don't mean by-element 02:09:34 Tritrix perhaps? 02:09:37 Tratrix 02:09:38 I know 02:09:46 OK, call it tritrix if you want to. 02:10:02 -!- atehwa_ has joined. 02:10:04 -!- pikhq_ has joined. 02:10:08 I don't understand normal matrix multiplication, let alone am able to make up a new kind for a new thing xD 02:10:16 Let me brush up on matrix multiplication 02:10:18 -!- heroux_ has joined. 02:10:19 Then learn normal matrix multiplication. 02:10:37 That's what I'm doing 02:10:48 -!- int-e_ has joined. 02:11:57 hint-e! 02:13:52 -!- Hooloo42 has joined. 02:14:28 I can vaguely understand it 02:15:25 -!- atslash has quit (*.net *.split). 02:15:25 -!- EgoBot has quit (*.net *.split). 02:15:25 -!- tromp__ has quit (*.net *.split). 02:15:25 -!- Melvar has quit (*.net *.split). 02:15:25 -!- pikhq has quit (*.net *.split). 02:15:25 -!- Hoolootwo has quit (*.net *.split). 02:15:25 -!- Lymia has quit (*.net *.split). 02:15:25 -!- heroux has quit (*.net *.split). 02:15:25 -!- olsner has quit (*.net *.split). 02:15:25 -!- skarn has quit (*.net *.split). 02:15:25 -!- atehwa has quit (*.net *.split). 02:15:25 -!- int-e has quit (*.net *.split). 02:15:27 -!- heroux_ has changed nick to heroux. 02:15:28 Fuck it, tratrix multiplication is element-wise 02:15:34 What the hell just happenned? 02:15:37 -!- atslash has joined. 02:15:46 -!- Hooloo42 has changed nick to Hoolootwo. 02:15:51 -!- EgoBot has joined. 02:15:51 -!- Lymia has joined. 02:16:18 Net split means one of freenode servers disconnected from the others 02:16:24 Ah 02:16:39 And those are all the people who were on those servers? 02:16:45 Those people are in a channel by themselves and it looks like everyone else netsplit 02:16:49 To them 02:16:57 Ah 02:17:17 How do we know we aren't the ones in the channel by ourselves? 02:17:18 xD 02:17:39 -!- olsner has joined. 02:18:09 Depends on how many people you see get disconnected 02:18:15 True 02:18:39 I've been in #ubuntu on a netsplit where 900/950 people vanished lol 02:22:09 -!- Melvar has joined. 02:28:29 -!- Wright has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:29:27 -!- Wright has joined. 02:29:28 -!- PinealGl1ndOptic has joined. 02:30:49 -!- oren_ has joined. 02:31:48 -!- nortti_ has joined. 02:32:20 -!- OriginalOldMan has joined. 02:34:37 Even if you try to make a tensor product it look like it would leave gaps. Tratrix does not seem so useful or meaningful so much! 02:34:39 -!- EgoBot has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 02:34:40 -!- PinealGlandOptic has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 02:34:40 -!- oren has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 02:34:40 -!- nortti has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 02:34:40 -!- nisstyre has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 02:34:41 -!- yiyus has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 02:34:41 -!- sedirc has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 02:34:41 -!- atslash has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:34:52 -!- atslash has joined. 02:35:24 -!- bender| has joined. 02:35:29 -!- EgoBot has joined. 02:36:40 -!- yiyus has joined. 02:37:55 [wiki] [[Talk:Folder]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44096&oldid=43944 * Rdococ * (+234) /* A Folder RPG */ 02:38:07 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:38:26 [wiki] [[Talk:Folder]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44097&oldid=44096 * Rdococ * (+111) /* A Folder RPG */ 02:40:35 Multiple Timelike Dimensions 02:40:44 Someone implement an Esolang that behaves as such 02:41:45 I had the idea too, and wanted to have a esolang or chess variant having such properties, but I do not know how. 02:43:09 I'm talking to a guy who experimented with Cellular Automata with it over on ##math 02:43:22 If you join you'll show up in time for the grand post 02:43:41 Oh 02:43:43 Missed it 03:02:18 -!- nisstyre has joined. 03:06:52 -!- Sgeo__ has joined. 03:08:00 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 03:08:13 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 03:08:29 -!- int-e_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 03:08:30 -!- jix has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 03:08:31 -!- newsham has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 03:08:46 -!- tromp__ has joined. 03:08:58 -!- nisstyre has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 03:08:59 -!- aretecode has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 03:08:59 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 03:09:00 -!- FireFly has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 03:09:00 -!- heddwch has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 03:09:00 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 03:09:01 -!- tswett has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 03:09:41 -!- rdococ has joined. 03:09:48 -!- int-e has joined. 03:09:56 -!- Warrigal has joined. 03:09:58 -!- jix has joined. 03:10:38 -!- rdococ has quit (Client Quit). 03:10:46 Someone needs to make a programming language where Minecraft is an acceptable IDE 03:11:33 the redstone stuff already counts 03:12:40 -!- aretecode has joined. 03:13:23 -!- shikhin has quit (Quit: Alas.). 03:14:38 -!- shikhin has joined. 03:14:59 -!- FireFly has joined. 03:23:46 -!- nisstyre has joined. 03:24:27 -!- sammwch has joined. 03:25:56 -!- sammwch has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:26:53 We need a T language (T:topology::R:statistics&analysis) 03:26:56 STAT! 03:27:17 doesthiswork: Oh right xD 03:27:19 -!- sammwch has joined. 03:27:21 O, OK you can try to do it 03:27:28 I have enough on my plate 03:27:30 Although for statistics I generally just use SQLite 03:28:05 (Although I had to write some extension to do such thing as calculating the median and so on; many statistical stuff is not built-in to SQLite) 03:29:07 -!- sammwch has changed nick to heddwch. 03:35:39 -!- skarn has joined. 03:39:35 I still know of no graphics extensions for SQLite although I could write one that works by sixel graphics. 03:44:26 zzo38: Probably more modern terminals would support the use of octxel graphics using unicode bralle 03:45:55 If you do not need colors then you could implement that too, although I intend to use sixel graphics (and do not normally use Unicode terminals) 03:46:53 It could be done by a SQL function that converts it I suppose, if you want to 03:49:20 `danddreclist 66 03:49:21 danddreclist 66: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex 03:52:40 I would have design the game to make "Triangle of Magic" to be less unbalanced; by Triangle of Magic I mean: magic beats mundane, antimagic beats magic, mundane beats antimagic. (My character uses all three techniques.) 03:53:35 Do you like this? 03:59:23 (And then there are artifacts, which beat everything.) 04:02:58 -!- newsham has joined. 04:04:26 are objects on stack in underload strings? 04:09:47 In Underload they put only string in stack 04:12:44 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 04:16:18 -!- mauris has joined. 04:16:18 -!- mauris has quit (Changing host). 04:16:18 -!- mauris has joined. 04:18:32 -!- mauris_ has joined. 04:18:45 -!- mauris_ has quit (Changing host). 04:18:45 -!- mauris_ has joined. 04:20:01 I get file not found for level20.txt 04:20:08 sorry .tex 04:20:41 Oops, I must have accidentally deleted it 04:20:45 Try the .dvi 04:21:00 I will restore it from the backup and then retype the rest. 04:21:49 ok thanks 04:21:55 The backups are from July 14 04:22:06 -!- sc00fy has joined. 04:22:10 -!- mauris has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 04:25:01 I found a undelete program but am unsure how to use it. 04:26:00 It is called "extundelete" 04:27:25 -!- nortti_ has changed nick to nortti. 04:29:21 Fortunately I still have these hard drives, as well as an external device to access them, and the power supply for them! 04:30:18 that gives me an idea for a linear language, each program is single use only. When it runs it deletes itself 04:31:52 It also kills the programmer to ensure they cannot type in the program again 04:33:04 correct 04:33:50 -!- Wright has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 04:36:15 And most of it does not even have to be retyped, since I can just copy the text from the DVI 04:38:04 in underload, during the concatenation operation, do the elements that were needed to be concatenated popped from stack? 04:38:16 Yes I believe so 04:38:58 e.g.: (li)(fe)* (do the individual 'li' and 'fe' remain and 'life' is pushed to stack or are they popped out?) 04:39:23 http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-2521 04:39:30 They are removed from the stack and the result is push to stack 04:39:44 ah 04:48:30 OK, the file is now fully restored. 04:48:42 doesthiswork: Try again; it works now. 04:49:13 Does it work for you now? 04:50:51 yes 05:27:33 -!- mihow has joined. 05:28:48 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 05:29:21 -!- j-bot has joined. 05:33:18 -!- OriginalOldMan has quit (Quit: Page closed). 05:39:06 -!- j-bot has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 05:39:17 Did you read it? Do you like what it is written on here? Is there any mistake you could find, or any way to improve perhaps? 05:39:17 -!- j-bot has joined. 05:41:09 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 05:42:21 -!- mauris has joined. 05:45:11 -!- mauris_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 05:45:22 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 05:51:03 -!- mauris_ has joined. 05:51:03 -!- mauris_ has quit (Changing host). 05:51:03 -!- mauris_ has joined. 05:52:11 -!- mauris has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 06:11:25 [wiki] [[Talk:Help, WarDoq!]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44098&oldid=44048 * Rdebath * (+220) /* Fail. */ 06:18:42 -!- bender| has changed nick to Aphrodite. 06:18:45 -!- Aphrodite has changed nick to bender|. 06:20:03 -!- lleu has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 06:20:11 -!- bender| has changed nick to Iris. 06:20:36 -!- Iris has changed nick to Ivy. 06:20:44 -!- Ivy has changed nick to Juno. 06:21:15 -!- Juno has changed nick to Lily. 06:21:17 -!- heroux has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:21:18 -!- mauris__ has joined. 06:21:22 -!- Lily has changed nick to Mary. 06:21:29 -!- Mary has changed nick to Kathy. 06:21:39 -!- Kathy has changed nick to Jolie. 06:21:46 -!- Jolie has changed nick to bender|. 06:22:44 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 06:24:18 -!- mauris_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 06:25:09 -!- heroux has joined. 06:28:04 -!- mihow has quit (Quit: mihow). 06:28:39 -!- JesseH has quit (Quit: Leaving). 07:03:48 Make the Magic: the Gathering card that can be of a type "instant creature"; I think it is then cast as instants but can have power/toughness and creature types, can be counted by Lhurgoyf, can use scavenge ability if it has any, etc. 07:04:47 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 07:05:27 Mark Rosewater has said that he would make Instant work that way if he was redoing the game. 07:05:48 I.e. "instant creature", "instant sorcery", and so on. Rather than using the "flash" keyword. 07:06:09 That isn't what I mean 07:06:46 I mean it is played and then discarded, so it doesn't go into play, but still counts as a creature anyways 07:08:10 Some keyword abilities are only use for creatures or only use for some card types, but can be used with others as well even though it isn't, therefore we can make up the card that uses them otherwise anyways, or in other unusual way (such as tribute that doesn't check if the tribute isn't paid, and so on) 07:08:33 Ah, I see. 07:08:46 That's a bit like Evoke, I guess. 07:11:43 Dash on something with vanishing (whether or not a creature) is another thing 07:12:57 But in both of those cases the permanent enters the battlefield. 07:13:00 Combine tribute with unleash or undying; I think I have done this kind of thing too 07:13:07 You're proposing that it doesn't even enter the battlefield in the first place. 07:13:31 I did say that if a card has the type "instant creature" then it cannot enter the battlefield. 07:25:24 I also had idea, the epic version of Time Stop 07:25:52 What would the use of that be? 07:26:56 -!- synthetiques has joined. 07:27:26 Of course it stop you from attacking and so on, but how much is it worth what kind of mana cost it would then be? 07:31:32 -!- x10A94 has joined. 07:43:51 -!- MDude has changed nick to MDream. 08:31:51 -!- Patashu has joined. 08:40:01 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 08:57:20 -!- synthetiques has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:00:40 -!- FireFly has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:00:41 -!- shikhin has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:04:58 -!- FireFly has joined. 09:04:59 -!- shikhin has joined. 09:11:13 are there esoteric prigramming games besides bf joust and fyb? 09:46:15 BeGlad, but it only just barely exists. 09:46:22 Nobody knows much about it, either. 09:46:29 (Short for "Befunge Gladiators".) 09:47:04 Some might even consider regular Core War somewhat esoteric. 09:51:00 mind providing a link? 09:51:47 -!- lleu has joined. 09:51:47 -!- lleu has quit (Changing host). 09:51:47 -!- lleu has joined. 09:54:18 What, about BeGlad? There's not really any links -- that's what I meant for barely existing. The Funge-98 spec has some tantalizing hints ('y' return value 9: "1 cell containing a unique team number for the current IP. Only significant for NetFunge, BeGlad, and the like." The archived Befunge FAQ from '97 has a short description: "BeGlad (Befunge Gladiators) is more like Core Wars; Programs ... 09:54:24 ... written in a modified version of Befunge-97 actually attack within Befunge-space itself, trying to force the other program to run out of processes and die." 09:54:30 Befunge '97 itself is kind of mysterious, too. 09:54:46 oh no :( 09:54:52 http://archive.is/RAzLK question 1.3. 09:55:00 It also mentions a "BefBots". 09:55:30 can't find both 09:55:37 that's too bad 09:55:55 Yes, I think they're all lost in time, like tears in rain. 09:57:11 If cpressey visits the channel again, next time someone could ask them if they've got any material about this stuff. 09:57:40 Although maybe that's not very promising, given that even http://catseye.tc/node/Befunge-97 has no spec on file. 09:58:17 a befunge programming game would be great 09:58:35 i can't think of any reason this hasn't been picked up 10:01:54 There's also a Befunge-96, which was even less successful. Both '96 and '97 don't have that much presence in the webs. 10:02:23 One of them ('96?) had multithreading (in the Funge-98 style, with a list of IPs executing in lockstep) with a *shared stack*. 10:02:32 That probably would've been a nightmare to program. 10:03:00 i like it 10:03:23 i am tempted to build multithreading into rail 10:12:45 (maybe: befunge wars where you just try to trick the other program into terminating??) 10:13:45 The "obvious" core wars translation would be to stick both programs into same finite-sized (wrapping) playfield, and have them try to use g/p to put a @ executed by the other program. 10:14:09 Possibly tweaking g/p to use coordinates relative to either the instruction or the load offset of the program. 10:16:52 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 10:22:44 [wiki] [[Talk:Unreadable]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44099&oldid=19065 * Timwi * (+262) Question about while loops 10:37:21 [wiki] [[Talk:Unreadable]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44100&oldid=44099 * Timwi * (+176) /* Ambiguity in while behaviour */ 10:40:23 -!- Lymia has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 10:42:32 -!- Lymia has joined. 10:54:17 wow 10:55:32 fizzie, myname: I have Befunge 97 and 96 specs of some kind. 10:55:56 fizzie: archive.is remains blocked in Finland so I dislike your link. 10:58:05 what's archive.is 10:58:34 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive.is 10:59:14 Deewiant: I blame Google, that's where the link was from. 11:02:44 [wiki] [[Unreadable]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44101&oldid=31121 * Timwi * (+59) clarifications (according to approved interpreter) 11:03:49 Tch, it's the only hit for "Befunge Mini-FAQ", too. 11:03:51 -!- hjulle has joined. 11:04:28 [wiki] [[Unreadable]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44102&oldid=44101 * Timwi * (+13) another clarification 11:05:49 [wiki] [[Talk:Unreadable]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44103&oldid=44100 * Timwi * (+177) /* Reading from Stdin */ 11:06:13 [wiki] [[Unreadable]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44104&oldid=44102 * Timwi * (+29) another clarification 11:15:30 Deewiant: That was my own name for it, I think. 11:15:38 Deewiant: http://web.archive.org/web/20010417044912/http://cantor.res.cmu.edu/bozeman/befunge/beffaq.html 11:16:22 -!- sc00fy has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 11:19:55 -!- mauris has joined. 11:22:37 -!- mauris__ has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 11:29:38 -!- synthetiques has joined. 11:32:48 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 11:34:46 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 11:39:20 -!- sc00fy has joined. 11:56:29 -!- Virgolang has joined. 12:05:09 i don't understand why the finnish government would have a dispute with an archive service 12:06:09 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 12:06:58 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 12:15:17 probably the same reason india blocked pastebin 12:17:47 wow 12:18:10 say what you want about windows notepad as a text editor, but karmically it's totally in the green! 12:18:13 @karma Notepad 12:18:13 Notepad has a karma of 112 12:18:21 I Wonder Why 12:19:00 @google notepad-- 12:19:01 https://notepad-plus-plus.org/ 12:20:25 ashl: I suspect the guy is confused or had a bad experience with an individual and overreacted 12:20:28 @google Virgo esolang 12:20:29 http://forum.esolang.com/index.php?showtopic=3552 12:20:29 Title: ����� � ����� ������� - ����� ... 12:21:25 @google Virgo site:esolangs.org 12:21:25 No Result Found. 12:21:36 @google Virgo esolangs.org 12:21:37 http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/esotericc 12:23:03 @help 12:23:03 help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands 12:23:09 @list 12:23:10 What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. 12:23:15 @listmodules 12:23:15 activity base bf check compose dice dict djinn dummy elite eval filter free fresh haddock help hoogle instances irc karma localtime metar more oeis offlineRC pl pointful poll pretty quote search slap source spell system tell ticker todo topic type undo unlambda unmtl version where 12:23:32 @list karma 12:23:32 karma provides: karma karma+ karma- karma-all 12:23:39 @karma+ 12:23:40 usage @karma(+|-) nick 12:23:50 @karma+ Virgolang 12:23:50 You can't change your own karma, silly. 12:24:00 @bf 12:24:00 Done. 12:24:11 @list bf 12:24:12 bf provides: bf 12:24:13 @karma+ Virgolang 12:24:13 Virgolang's karma raised to 1. 12:24:21 @bf ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++. 12:24:21 ( 12:25:35 @bf +[----->+++<]>+.++++++++++++..----.[-->+<]>++.-----------..[--->+<]>.[--->+<]>----.----.---.-----------.+++++++++++++.-------.++++++++++++.+[++>---<]>.---[----->+<]>.+++.-----------.--[->+++<]>.++[--->++<]>+.+[->+++<]>+.++.--.----[->+++<]>.>+[--->++<]>.++++[->++++<]>+.+++++++++.-----------.++++++++. 12:25:35 http://esolangs.org/wiki/Virgo 12:26:00 @list hoogle 12:26:00 hoogle provides: hoogle hoogle+ 12:26:05 @hoogle+ 12:26:06 Control.Monad mapM :: Monad m => (a -> m b) -> [a] -> m [b] 12:26:06 Control.Monad forM :: Monad m => [a] -> (a -> m b) -> m [b] 12:26:06 Data.Traversable mapM :: (Traversable t, Monad m) => (a -> m b) -> t a -> m (t b) 12:26:14 @hoogle 12:26:16 No query entered 12:26:16 Try --help for command line options 12:26:53 how to add my own interpreter? 12:26:59 like @bf 12:27:19 @system 12:27:19 Unknown command, try @list 12:27:25 @list system 12:27:25 system provides: listchans listmodules listservers list echo uptime 12:27:31 You have to fill out a form and submit it by fax or mail 12:27:40 what form 12:28:08 or else i can write a bot 12:28:19 Standard form 102-A 12:28:33 how can i access it 12:29:02 -!- synthetiques has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:29:10 @bf ,. 12:29:10 Done. 12:29:18 @bf ,+++++. 12:29:18 Done. 12:29:20 @bf ,+++++. 12:29:20 Done. 12:29:21 @bf ,+++++. 12:29:21 Done. 12:29:34 @listmodules 12:29:34 activity base bf check compose dice dict djinn dummy elite eval filter free fresh haddock help hoogle instances irc karma localtime metar more oeis offlineRC pl pointful poll pretty quote search slap source spell system tell ticker todo topic type undo unlambda unmtl version where 12:29:43 @list ticker 12:29:43 ticker provides: ticker bid 12:29:51 @source 12:29:51 Unknown command, try @list 12:29:52 @list pl 12:29:53 pl provides: pointless pl pl-resume 12:29:59 @list source 12:29:59 source provides: src 12:30:00 @source 12:30:00 Unknown command, try @list 12:30:03 @src 12:30:03 src . Display the implementation of a standard function 12:30:09 @src 12:30:10 src . Display the implementation of a standard function 12:30:12 @src bf 12:30:13 Source not found. Your mind just hasn't been the same since the electro-shock, has it? 12:30:15 @src bf 12:30:15 Source not found. Maybe if you used more than just two fingers... 12:30:22 @src bf 12:30:22 Source not found. Where did you learn to type? 12:30:32 @src 0 12:30:33 Source not found. Abort, Retry, Panic? 12:31:36 @src pretty 12:31:36 Source not found. That's something I cannot allow to happen. 12:31:41 @src src 12:31:41 Source not found. Maybe if you used more than just two fingers... 12:31:45 @src bf 12:31:45 Source not found. Sorry about this, I know it's a bit silly. 12:31:51 @src bf 12:31:51 Source not found. stty: unknown mode: doofus 12:31:55 @src bf 12:31:55 Source not found. This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it. 12:32:11 @unlamba 12:32:12 unlambda: Parse error at end of file 12:32:14 @unlambda 12:32:15 unlambda: Parse error at end of file 12:32:18 @unlambda 12:32:18 unlambda: Parse error at end of file 12:32:19 @unlambda 12:32:19 unlambda: Parse error at end of file 12:32:22 @unlambda 12:32:22 unlambda: Parse error at end of file 12:32:25 Are you retarded? 12:32:30 no 12:32:49 Why are you acting like a retarded 12:33:03 bot doesn't work 12:33:10 because of that 12:33:20 doesn't giving source 12:33:22 You know what you should do? Try the same input over and over 12:33:35 no 12:33:45 Yea do it. It will work eventually 12:33:53 @src bf 12:33:53 Source not found. :( 12:33:55 @src bf 12:33:55 Source not found. My pet ferret can type better than you! 12:33:56 @src bf 12:33:57 Source not found. :( 12:33:58 @src bf 12:33:58 Source not found. Are you on drugs? 12:33:59 @src bf 12:33:59 Source not found. 12:33:59 @src bf 12:34:00 Source not found. And you call yourself a Rocket Surgeon! 12:34:01 @src bf 12:34:01 Source not found. Maybe if you used more than just two fingers... 12:34:02 @src bf 12:34:03 Source not found. Sorry. 12:34:04 @src bf 12:34:04 Source not found. That's something I cannot allow to happen. 12:34:05 @src bf 12:34:05 Source not found. There are some things that I just don't know. 12:34:06 @src bf 12:34:07 Source not found. That's something I cannot allow to happen. 12:34:14 stupid bot 12:34:17 It's just getting warmed up is all 12:34:22 @src bf 12:34:22 Source not found. 12:34:23 @src bf 12:34:23 Source not found. This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it. 12:34:24 @src bf 12:34:24 Source not found. 12:34:25 @src bf 12:34:25 Source not found. It can only be attributed to human error. 12:34:25 @src bf 12:34:25 Source not found. Maybe if you used more than just two fingers... 12:34:26 @src bf 12:34:26 Source not found. And you call yourself a Rocket Surgeon! 12:34:27 @src bf 12:34:27 Source not found. Wrong! You cheating scum! 12:34:30 @src bf 12:34:30 Source not found. You speak an infinite deal of nothing. 12:34:37 @src bf 12:34:38 Source not found. And you call yourself a Rocket Surgeon! 12:34:39 @src bf 12:34:39 Source not found. I feel much better now. 12:34:40 @src bf 12:34:40 Source not found. Just what do you think you're doing Dave? 12:34:40 @src bf 12:34:40 Source not found. I don't think I can be your friend on Facebook anymore. 12:34:41 @src bf 12:34:41 Source not found. Take a stress pill and think things over. 12:34:42 @src bf 12:34:42 Source not found. And you call yourself a Rocket Surgeon! 12:34:43 @src bf 12:34:43 Source not found. And you call yourself a Rocket Scientist! 12:34:43 @src bf 12:34:44 Source not found. I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. 12:34:44 @src bf 12:34:46 Source not found. 12:34:48 @src bf 12:34:48 Source not found. Maybe if you used more than just two fingers... 12:34:49 @src bf 12:34:50 Source not found. That's something I cannot allow to happen. 12:34:51 @src bf 12:34:52 Source not found. This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it. 12:34:56 @src bf 12:34:56 Source not found. 12:35:03 still not working 12:35:05 -!- Patashu has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 12:35:09 it is goatish 12:36:08 i should make a bot 12:36:31 named 'VirgoInterpreter' 12:37:30 and connect it 12:37:42 * Virgolang slaps lambdabot around a bit with a large fishbot 12:37:52 That would be badass and original. Go for it 12:38:59 i should make sockets before 12:47:02 -!- oerjan has joined. 12:54:33 @botsnack 12:54:33 :) 12:56:36 -!- virgo_interprete has joined. 12:57:00 it is my bot 12:57:09 not complete 12:57:10 ! 12:58:08 PING 12:58:20 it pings my bot 12:59:11 :!Q 12:59:26 it doesn't quit! 12:59:49 Q 12:59:56 fiendish 13:00:58 ./privmsg virgo_interprete haha 13:01:03 -!- virgo_interprete has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 13:01:20 ./privmsg virgo_interprete haha 13:06:51 http://worrydream.com/AlligatorEggs/ 13:07:50 -!- virgo_interprete has joined. 13:10:42 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 13:12:03 -!- virgo_interprete has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 13:12:45 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Client Quit). 13:13:35 -!- virgo_interprete has joined. 13:14:02 -!- virgo_interprete has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 13:14:42 -!- virgo_interprete has joined. 13:19:25 -!- virgo_interprete has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 13:28:59 virgo interpreter will be at #virgo 13:29:03 -!- lleu has quit (Quit: That's what she said). 13:34:42 is there anyone here who lived in england in 1940? 13:36:12 i need to know how much 100k pounds are worth today 13:36:34 it's how much turing asks to build his machine in "the imitation game" 13:38:23 it is possible i lived in england in 1940, but i do not remember since it was before i was born hth 13:39:11 i recall there's some wikipedia feature to do such conversions... 13:40:04 ha! found this http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1633409/Historic-inflation-calculator-value-money-changed-1900.html 13:40:40 i found this http://safalra.com/other/historical-uk-inflation-price-conversion/ 13:40:48 i think safalra is an esolanger? 13:42:34 3.8 million in 2013, it stopped there 13:42:53 it was crazy expensive 13:43:33 i'd just go back in time and give him a 300$ laptop 13:45:00 > (3957691.80/100000)**(1/(2016-1945)) 13:45:02 1.0531717051399103 13:54:03 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 13:55:04 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 14:00:11 -!- rodgort has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 14:02:01 [wiki] [[Loader]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44105&oldid=44030 * SuperJedi224 * (+66) /* Interpreter */ 14:04:27 -!- rodgort has joined. 14:05:59 -!- sc00fy has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 14:15:35 HackEgo, help 14:15:44 =help 14:15:45 ?? 14:17:21 -!- TieSoul has joined. 14:18:44 `help 14:18:45 Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ 14:34:40 -!- bender| has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 14:38:30 -!- Virgolang has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 14:48:52 -!- JesseH has joined. 14:49:06 `unidecode ☮ 14:49:07 ​[U+262E PEACE SYMBOL] 14:49:08 -!- Virgolang has joined. 14:49:18 useful. 14:50:34 `unidecode ♂䑭 14:50:35 ​[U+2642 MALE SIGN] [U+446D CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-446D] 14:51:09 Ah, no character details. 14:51:44 oren_: http://i.imgur.com/FSVg1EW.png 14:51:54 show your font's ass now 14:51:55 (Mars; alchemical symbol for iron / war vessel; man-of-war; warship) 14:57:12 The other tool shows some technical data. 14:57:14 `unicode ♂ 14:57:15 U+2642 MALE SIGN \ UTF-8: e2 99 82 UTF-16BE: 2642 Decimal: ♂ \ ♂ \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) 14:57:24 But not the description either. 14:57:40 -!- J_Arcane has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 15:06:30 i am making a bot :) 15:06:36 @botsnack 15:06:37 :) 15:06:47 named virgo 15:06:49 -!- ais523 has joined. 15:07:18 virgo will be in #virgo 15:37:17 -!- J_Arcane has joined. 15:46:55 -!- FreeFull has quit (Quit: BBS). 15:53:07 -!- FreeFull has joined. 15:53:30 -!- FreeFull has changed nick to Guest84911. 15:55:49 -!- Wright has joined. 16:03:05 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 16:11:35 [wiki] [[Unreadable]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44106&oldid=44104 * Timwi * (+125) /* Interpreter */ Esoteric IDE now supports Unreadable. Tested with the examples on the Talk page as well as [http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/55870/668 this shorter Hello World]. 16:16:26 good mroing 16:16:27 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 16:18:54 11 16:19:00 CC 16:19:04 11 16:22:23 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 16:25:01 oren_: no, add more 1's 16:25:19 111 16:25:23 CC1 16:25:27 111 16:25:39 now there's too many 1's 16:32:34 -!- JesseH has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 16:33:29 -!- Virgolang_ has joined. 16:34:03 -!- virgobeta has joined. 16:34:29 virgobeta is my bot. 16:34:42 -!- Virgolang has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 16:35:19 -!- Virgolang_ has changed nick to Virgolang. 16:35:23 cls 16:35:37 -!- virgobeta has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 16:36:32 -!- virgobeta has joined. 16:36:47 :!Q 16:36:50 -!- virgobeta has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 16:37:52 hmm, the early days of bot development 16:38:07 although normally you get "client quit" in response to every command, as opposed to "connection reset by peer" 16:38:14 it doesn't responds 16:40:20 -!- virgobeta has joined. 16:40:23 -!- virgobeta has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 16:42:47 -!- variable has joined. 16:50:06 web.did_not_remember_to_test_this_interface: points -11.88, score 11.81, rank 46/47 16:50:12 Huh, it works. 16:50:28 making a bot with php 16:50:29 (ais523 joining reminded me I didn't test that side at all after the restart.) 16:50:47 it didn't even come last 16:51:26 !zjoust knock_web_off_the_leaderboard (>)*8(>[+++[-]])*21 16:51:27 ais523.knock_web_off_the_leaderboard: points -7.67, score 14.55, rank 46/47 16:51:48 I actually thought that would score more, although I expected it to be a long way down 16:51:56 I guess the leaderboard is full of programs that are actually competent 16:52:16 That's the problem a long-running hill faces, I guess. 16:52:25 I don't really consider it a problem 16:52:33 I seem to remember that there used to be more churn at the bottom, thoguh 16:52:36 I think someone suggested a separate "beginner" hill that's less demoralizing. 16:52:51 so that submitting something that hasn't been popular in a long while would come like 10 spaces from the end 16:53:03 !zjoust vibration (-)*127(-+)*100000 16:53:03 ais523.vibration: points -12.31, score 10.96, rank 47/47 16:53:20 Yes, I think that used to be the case. 16:53:28 hmm, did I mess something up there? 16:53:32 * ais523 checks the breakdown 16:54:00 it does in fact get plenty of wins 16:55:10 and ofc anticipation2, which is the "clever" version of the same idea, is doing just fine on that hill IIRC 16:55:24 in 11th place 16:56:23 Total score from the breakdown summaries is -517 out of [-1932, 1932], so it's not at all bad. 16:59:26 I was fearing that the hill had gotten overcentralize 16:59:29 *overcentralized 16:59:41 but every time I fear that, either I discover I'm wrong, or else I find some way to exploit what everyone else is doing 16:59:54 (growth2, for example, is definitely an "exploit what everyone else is doing" program) 17:03:32 Incidentally, I gave some thought on turning the visualizations into client-side d3.js-or-something stuff, because that would allow the "shows only top 7 programs because it would look messy otherwise" plots to be sufficiently interactive to have a program-select-o-tron. 17:05:14 Also I did one of the least useful things imaginable, and switched out the protocol spoken by the 'gearlanced' binary that does the "manage a hill with minimal re-parsing/-compilation of programs" thing. 17:10:24 -!- MDream has changed nick to MDude. 17:14:09 -!- virgobot has joined. 17:14:10 -!- virgobot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 17:14:59 -!- virgobot has joined. 17:15:32 testing it 17:15:41 -!- virgobot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 17:16:20 -!- virgobot has joined. 17:16:47 it works! 17:17:11 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 17:17:24 -!- virgobot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 17:17:34 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 17:17:44 -!- virgobot has joined. 17:17:44 Virgo 17:17:57 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Changing host). 17:17:57 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 17:18:02 -!- virgobot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 17:18:42 -!- virgobot has joined. 17:18:42 'Virgo 17:18:55 -!- virgobot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 17:19:40 -!- virgobot has joined. 17:19:41 "Virgo 17:20:05 it doesn't print all string! 17:20:13 -!- virgobot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 17:20:55 -!- virgobot has joined. 17:20:56 Virgo Interpreter (version 0 beta). 17:22:29 #help 17:25:18 -!- virgobot has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 17:27:45 -!- virgobot has joined. 17:27:46 Virgo Interpreter (version 0 beta). 17:28:09 #help 17:28:26 So how does arabic fonts even work? 17:29:15 Does it simply display Alif at the start of a word by looking up the glyph for initial taf? 17:29:20 Does it simply display Alif at the start of a word by looking up the glyph for initial alif? 17:29:40 -!- virgobot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 17:29:54 -!- virgobot has joined. 17:29:55 Virgo Interpreter (version 0 beta). 17:30:03 -!- virgobot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 17:30:25 -!- virgobot has joined. 17:30:25 Virgo Interpreter (version 0 beta). 17:30:43 #help 17:30:43 Virgo Interpreter commands: bf (not implemented) 17:30:45 -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 17:30:46 :#help 17:30:47 Virgo Interpreter commands: bf (not implemented) 17:30:54 :#help 17:30:54 Virgo Interpreter commands: bf (not implemented) 17:31:14 :#bf 17:32:38 -!- virgobot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 17:32:42 what version was it anyway? 17:40:01 -!- Virgolang has left. 17:41:14 -!- ais523 has joined. 18:04:44 ᴬᴭᴮᴯᴰᴱᴲᴳᴴᴵᴶᴷᴸᴹᴺᴻᴼᴽᴾᴿᵀᵁᵂᵃᵄᵅᵆᵇᵈᵉᵊᵋᵌᵍᵎᵏᵐᵑᵒᵓᵔᵕᵖᵗᵘᵙᵚᵛᵜᵝᵞᵟᵠᵡ 18:10:23 -!- Guest84911 has quit (Changing host). 18:10:23 -!- Guest84911 has joined. 18:10:26 -!- Guest84911 has changed nick to FreeFull. 18:11:15 ᴴᴵ ᴬᴵˢ⁵²³ 18:28:31 That's difficult to read 18:42:35 whcih part? 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Why did you ask me? 21:13:55 Consider it noted. 21:14:16 -!- hppavilion[1]_ has changed nick to hppavilion[1]. 21:18:37 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in). 21:28:48 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 21:42:53 -!- oerjan has joined. 21:43:33 -!- Patashu has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 21:48:14 -!- darkl0ck has quit. 21:48:37 -!- darkl0ck has joined. 21:56:53 -!- ais523 has quit. 22:10:58 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 22:19:48 I added charatcers like ﺱﺲﺳﺴﺵﺶﺷﺸﺹﺺﺻﺼﺽﺾﺿﻀﻁﻂﻃﻄﻅﻆﻇﻈ 22:19:59 I want to make up an algebra for fun 22:20:24 Anyone have any ideas on which to base it? 22:21:20 -!- Thisbe has joined. 22:23:02 -!- aretecode has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 22:25:23 hppavilion[1]: since ordinary rings are distributive, i think walrusian rings should be hoarding hth 22:26:17 virgo? 22:26:50 the assemblyish esolang 22:30:08 oerjan: There will be various things in Walrusian Mathematics. Walrusians love strange things. 22:30:15 Hi, Virgolang! 22:30:47 Should I base my algegra on... hm... 22:30:54 Associative Arrays? 22:31:11 Perhaps Bag Theory? 22:31:37 free abelian groups hth 22:32:03 Perhaps a ring of rings? 22:32:08 That's probably already a thing 22:32:22 oerjan: `? d-module 22:32:28 er 22:32:32 mixed up two things 22:32:36 `? d-module 22:32:37 OKAY 22:32:40 D-modules are just modules over the ring of differential operators. Taneb invented them. 22:32:44 i was going to ask oerjan about the new canon 22:33:56 i haven't got past the introduction yet, i was already ridiculously backlogged with my common websites and i seem to have redeveloped an addiction to tatham's loopy 22:34:30 so don't expect me to read it very speedily 22:35:32 hmm, tatham was the person with cross-platform games, right? 22:35:38 i've just got to the part where he explains clearly and elaborately that it's not in greyscale for any price reasons 22:35:41 which he wrote in c or something and compiled to javascript? 22:35:59 shachaf: yeah there's a ton of backends 22:35:59 why would you read the text that isn't surrounded by pictures tdnh 22:36:18 ocpd? 22:36:26 i made a bot. 22:36:30 What else could I have an algebra about? 22:36:49 I want it to be defined around a ring or rig 22:36:52 it have some differences 22:37:00 You might also compile C codes into native codes; if the source-codes are provided you can try to compile into whatever 22:37:11 to use, /msg virgoalpha 22:37:12 Virgolang: Is virgo going to have socketry? 22:37:56 the orange county police department is making you do it? 22:37:56 Strings? Done already. Numbers? That was the first one. 22:38:07 Booleans? Literally come from "Boolean Algebra". 22:38:14 oerjan: did you play Velocity Raptor? 22:38:17 http://www.testtubegames.com/velocityraptor.html 22:38:33 Perhaps null algebra? 22:38:39 xD 22:38:44 Emojibra? 22:38:55 I have invented QUACKVM to do some cross-platform Minesweeper and some other game stuff, but currently the only implementation is in C and might work only on Linux with xterm; you can make up your own implementation for others if you want to; all of it is public domain 22:39:27 Elemental Algebra might work 22:39:54 If you can think of how to make Elemental Algebra then you can try and see if it work please. 22:40:19 zzo38: I'm looking for something interesting to base an algebra on 22:40:25 Do we have any weird data types? 22:40:31 Ones rarely used? 22:40:40 Perhaps something to do with classes? 22:41:01 shachaf: i think i shall pass 22:41:16 ok 22:41:26 I could invent an algebra based around people... 22:41:30 hppavilion[1]: I cannot think of it right now, but in past I might have done. 22:41:31 the only thing that reminded me of that game is that you get the point after n levels but there are n+k levels 22:41:41 (And possibly in future I can remember too) 22:41:41 and for completionist reasons i played the whole thing, and it was scow 22:41:52 -!- impomatic_ has joined. 22:42:04 zzo38: there are native backends too 22:42:49 oerjan: Yes, if there are just the C library that does it, use the header file and then it can do, look like another way too. 22:44:51 there's a middle-end, and you can make frontends (new games) or backends for it 22:44:54 i made an python console! 22:45:00 Virgolang: For what? 22:45:22 to use it, /msg virgolang &py 22:45:37 hppavilion[1]: Just testing it 22:46:19 I would advise you shut it off 22:46:21 RIGHT now 22:46:30 Before someone deletes your OS or something 22:47:01 ./msg virgoalpha &py 22:47:15 Shut it off yourself then if they won't 22:47:53 i see hppavilion[1] doesn't believe in Virgolang's sandboxing skills 22:48:36 You could easily test it though, and then see if it work or not. 22:48:42 I do not believe in anyone's sandboxing skills xD 22:49:02 hppavilion[1]: well no one's managed to break HackEgo irrevocably yet 22:49:10 @metar KOAK 22:49:10 KOAK 072153Z 29008KT 10SM FEW250 32/07 A2987 RMK AO2 SLP115 T03170072 22:49:15 Perhaps a Parser algebra? 22:49:17 unacceptable tdnh 22:49:22 Sort of like BNF, but better? 22:49:52 although i think i once accidentally froze it 22:51:27 -!- hjulle has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 22:51:31 and lambdabot is also sandboxed, after all the haskell exploits we found in the last year 22:51:55 (it used to try to depend on haskell's type safety) 22:52:18 @version 22:52:18 lambdabot 5.0.3 22:52:18 git clone https://github.com/lambdabot/lambdabot 22:52:33 int-e: why doesn't it say which ghc version it uses tdnh 22:52:47 also why are you idle so early in the night 22:52:56 We could try to invent an esoteric algebra which is based on something esoteric for use in languages 22:53:03 What purpose need be served? 22:53:28 we should have had oklopol here, he used to talk about weird algebras like loops 22:53:44 Perhaps an alebra for analyzing people? 22:53:48 oklopol: you're not secretly here, are you? 22:53:49 Machine Learning Algebra? 22:54:41 hppavilion[1]: the question here quickly becomes whether you want something that can actually be sensibly and logically implemented, or something that's pure imaginary fantasy 22:54:58 Sensibly and Logically Implemented 22:55:06 I tried to do an esoteric geometry once 22:55:10 i think that rules out people hth 22:55:12 That ended in a bunch of left triangle bullshit 22:55:28 Genetic Algebra? 22:56:21 OK 22:56:43 What should the elements of the ring/rig/rng/whatever that the Algebra implements be? 22:57:13 Functions, perhaps? 22:57:17 Function algebra? 22:57:27 Probably already been done. Shit I'm overusing vertical space 23:04:09 So... an algebra for parsing the same way Kleene Algebra is the algebra for lexing? 23:04:44 Try. 23:13:05 Genetic has already been done 23:13:13 I give up 23:13:21 I'm just going to make an evolution emulator 23:15:07 @tell bender| are objects on stack in underload strings? <-- nominally, although that's not necessarily the most efficient implementation 23:15:07 Consider it noted. 23:25:46 -!- FreeFull_ has joined. 23:26:06 -!- FreeFull_ has quit (Client Quit). 23:56:50 @help hoogle+ 23:56:50 hoogle . Haskell API Search for either names, or types. 23:59:19 -!- synthetiques has joined. 23:59:54 -!- Virgolang has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds).