< 1441757177 847922 :yiyus!~124271242@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1441757358 253860 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :The fnord never fnords fnord in the fnord fnord | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/ < 1441757372 349240 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That may be the stupidest thing I've ever done < 1441757438 892001 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1441757550 454472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :The never in the what? < 1441757648 29584 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you can't spell "whenever" without fnord "never" < 1441757883 144169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very ominously put there < 1441758110 96601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: tell oerjan what's up < 1441758110 403020 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: memo from yome: tell minion yow! < 1441758126 514024 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yow < 1441758126 678122 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Talking Pinhead Blues: < 1441758126 678213 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I LOST my ``HELLO KITTY'' DOLL and I get BAD reception on channel < 1441758126 678245 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : TWENTY-SIX!! < 1441758126 678275 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1441758126 678304 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Th'HOSTESS FACTORY is closin' down and I just heard ZASU PITTS has been < 1441758128 556363 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[7 @more lines] < 1441758137 208787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1441758137 372978 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : DEAD for YEARS.. (sniff) < 1441758137 373061 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1441758137 373085 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :My PLATFORM SHOE collection was CHEWED up by th' dog, ALEXANDER HAIG < 1441758137 373108 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : won't let me take a SHOWER 'til Easter ... (snurf) < 1441758138 575060 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1441758140 570449 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I went to the kitchen, but WALNUT PANELING whup me upside mah HAID!! < 1441758142 560240 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (on no, no, no.. Heh, heh) < 1441758149 112767 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh < 1441758238 997638 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1441758340 388727 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what lambdabot's voice sounds like < 1441758348 281201 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ < 1441758359 631865 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@a < 1441758359 798394 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: activity activity-full admin all-dicts arr ask auto-reply auto-reply? v @ ? . < 1441758377 109956 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@. < 1441758377 293176 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough arguments to @. < 1441758382 955489 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help . < 1441758383 119668 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :. [args]. < 1441758383 119747 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :. [or compose] is the composition of two plugins < 1441758383 119768 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : The following semantics are used: . f g xs == g xs >>= f < 1441758447 620643 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does one obtain lambdabot on one's channel? < 1441758459 559518 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps by... /BLACK MAGIC!/ < 1441758466 440202 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION starts an inquisition
< 1441758472 199071 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you try using the INVITE command? < 1441758478 643907 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1441758482 815622 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just have no clue how it works < 1441758488 640135 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then read the help file < 1441758488 995770 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm /still/ an IRC n00b < 1441758507 739535 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The server has a help file to explain its working. < 1441758522 371624 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eAh < 1441758523 911457 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Ah < 1441758763 423436 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1441758777 44591 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried /invite lambdabot < 1441758785 65350 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know where to find the help file xD < 1441758837 808061 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@install < 1441758838 9865 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges < 1441758840 845582 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help < 1441758841 9923 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1441758846 39503 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help installing < 1441758846 206340 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1441758857 677704 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The help file is the HELP command on the server < 1441758888 782189 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The command you need to send is the "HELP INVITE" I don't know what IRC client you are using, see how you access server help file using it < 1441758923 289469 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't recall lambdabot responding to invite, i think you need to be an admin to make it join channels. < 1441758946 460214 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1441758953 283940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could be shachaf unless someone's closed the loophole < 1441759012 677308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@join < 1441759012 841524 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges < 1441759030 335326 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's the one < 1441759666 110102 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1441759671 199878 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im bac! helO hppavilion[1] < 1441759680 798849 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hallu < 1441759686 316949 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hallued grounds < 1441759701 433034 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :halewd < 1441759728 890781 :skarn!skarn@unaffiliated/skarn QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1441759729 92614 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1441759761 97635 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/speliG.htm <- wut dU yU TiGk uv Dis? < 1441759763 795267 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making a skypebot! < 1441759776 881857 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like HackBot, but in skype! < 1441759785 829931 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And without hackboty features! < 1441759793 120675 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I'm not smart enough to do that safely! < 1441759814 245977 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: Ooooh pretty < 1441759833 939150 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1441759838 647914 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is is u speliG reform pRpOsL < 1441759857 842206 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting < 1441759962 818571 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh weL. < 1441759970 459488 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Du IdEu is Dat it is ferlE clOs tU cRNt speliG and CatspEk < 1441760049 327746 :jameseb!~jameseb_@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1441760052 813848 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ol lowRcAs letRs are Du sAm, onlE upRcAs letRs hav nU sWnds < 1441760089 748379 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/are/ar < 1441760166 369609 :skarn!skarn@unaffiliated/skarn JOIN :#esoteric < 1441760257 161371 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sO mOst pEpL can figR it Wt frum context espeSLE bEcuz letRs lIk x,c,q,y retAn Der orijNL mEniG < 1441760312 950629 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441760456 138879 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dus it strIks u balNs betwEn tradiSNL speliG and fNetic speliG < 1441760631 829814 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder JOIN :#esoteric < 1441760653 419970 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I've been thinking about natural numbers and other things. < 1441760669 131240 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given a set S, the following two concepts are equivalent. < 1441760677 272513 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no they're not. < 1441760687 962874 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um wut < 1441760698 404214 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In any case, consider the following concept: "a set S, an element of S, and a function S -> S". < 1441760723 54553 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given "one of those", and a natural number, there's an obvious way of getting an element of S. < 1441760738 151655 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just start with the element there and apply the function the appropriate number of times. < 1441760762 931450 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1441760786 931392 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, it may or may not make sense to *define* a natural number as something that takes any "one of those" and returns an element of S. < 1441760823 558964 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given this, I'm wondering what the most appropriate term for "one of those" would be. < 1441760828 284486 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking "natural number algebra". < 1441760929 667834 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :duz evrE elMNt uv S haf tU bE rECabL bI itRAtiG Du funcSN on Du elMNt? < 1441760961 998974 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does every element of S have to be reachable by iterating the function on the element? < 1441760970 735310 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1441761005 736201 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Den tU dU nat < 1441761045 139964 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :menE 'wuns uv DOs' wil bE eqivLNt < 1441761075 192711 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I lIk yOr speliG prOpOzL. < 1441761140 54825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: in system F, naturals are defined as the type forall a. (a -> a) -> (a -> a) hth < 1441761154 891997 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does idea become IdEu? < 1441761157 126088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is equivalent to what you said < 1441761169 124823 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :u represents the u sound in but < 1441761200 759885 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I as in kite, E as in beet, u as in but < 1441761203 597997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose that's also the church encoding < 1441761224 95551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google natural numbers object < 1441761225 888093 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/natural+numbers+object < 1441761226 52397 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: natural numbers object in nLab < 1441761226 248275 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard for non native english speakers < 1441761266 452397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: i'm pretty sure oren_'s system conflates several english sounds < 1441761280 169267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the u in but is not the same as the a in idea < 1441761280 376737 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All English speakers conflate several English sounds. < 1441761290 654497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe in oren_'s dialect < 1441761359 971582 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Your definition is like the least fixed point of Maybe. < 1441761361 708329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION realizes "conflate" is probably not easy for non native speakers either
< 1441761361 982747 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :lME trI (lemme try?) < 1441761366 651501 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many syllables is "idea" supposed to have? < 1441761373 843824 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mu Maybe = forall r. (Maybe r -> r) -> r < 1441761390 699772 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 sLubLs < 1441761406 364583 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dE u < 1441761451 724747 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well, natural numbers are like the least fixed point of Maybe. < 1441761467 390264 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1441761500 553356 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway conaturals > naturals < 1441761568 752467 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why element -> elMNt instead of LMNt? < 1441761575 287908 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Dis sistM duzNt distiGwiS ol sWnds in mI dIulect EDR < 1441761577 237866 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1441761635 681783 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: the difference between "el" and "L" is like the difference between the "el" in "repel" and the "le" in "ripple". < 1441761681 926844 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i give up <.< < 1441761786 131134 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: for ixampL, W wiT and wiTWt canAdEin rAsiG. < 1441761918 333334 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Du sWnds in 'loud' and 'lout' wud boT bE W) < 1441762085 68662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O kA < 1441762254 768386 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hWevR, yU can stil figR it Wt frum Du folOwiG t or d < 1441762784 824548 :athenabot!~athenabot@59.189.180.228 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441763313 510625 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-128-163.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1441763313 675129 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-128-163.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1441763540 399508 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-128-163.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1441763612 6600 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would my variant True Seeing spell be worth in terms of slot level and so on? < 1441763628 444916 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know your variant. < 1441763703 487262 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a much simpler effect: The target can see things as if all magic were absent. You cannot selectively treat magics as absent; it must be all or none. < 1441763739 670825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if I summon a creature with magic? Will I be able to see it? < 1441763791 975184 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but you will not be able to see past any illusion that has subsequently been cast upon it. < 1441763822 277497 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you choose to see past the illusion, you won't see the summoned creature either. < 1441763834 143865 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although you can still hear them) < 1441763864 421154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if I summon a creature and that creature attacks someone? Will I be able to see their wounds? < 1441763876 804192 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1441763891 511224 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: let me guess, the last oots episode is chock full of references to the book... < 1441763904 976198 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ? < 1441763916 225654 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :episode? < 1441763927 716406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :strip, whatever < 1441763934 657591 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean 1003? < 1441763952 743089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember what's in the book. < 1441763955 275644 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read it years ago. < 1441763959 338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAN'T A MAN USE A SYNONYM WITHOUT EVERYONE GETTING CONFUSED < 1441763961 844697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you can read it and remind me. < 1441763988 884443 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: burlew recently confused me about the terminology hth < 1441763994 821896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently a strip can contain multiple pages. < 1441763995 515411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only remember that that maneuver happened during the pyramid illusion < 1441764012 786116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which maneuver? < 1441764027 931497 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that maneuver. < 1441764034 820501 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :His grandfather taught it to him after he died. < 1441764047 751064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1441764056 421648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he's used it before, I think. < 1441764057 711604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0928.html < 1441764058 959237 :athenabot!~athenabot@59.189.180.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :An error occurred while processing the link. < 1441764077 736333 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :athenabot: the error was that you spoke < 1441764122 74962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that was after the pyramid < 1441764201 309347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Maybe I misunderstood the word "only". < 1441764242 997314 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats shachaf -----###
< 1441764289 287691 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, now I see what you meant. < 1441764299 485380 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant "actually used it before", as opposed to "imagining that he used it". < 1441764477 784819 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another kind of idea would be, spell that increase your AC and you receive only half damage with spells but you also get penalty to attacks and can only cause half damage with spells. < 1441764590 927032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0600.html hth < 1441764591 976274 :athenabot!~athenabot@59.189.180.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :An error occurred while processing the link. < 1441764945 92563 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1441764945 120189 NAMES :#esoteric < 1441764950 170720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no KICK #esoteric athenabot :athenabot < 1441764954 541200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1441764954 548713 NAMES :#esoteric < 1441764976 822668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've got enough annoying bots already < 1441764989 239037 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe you. < 1441765126 255448 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... what if *I'm* a bot? D: < 1441765200 660172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION watches zgrep suspiciously
< 1441765217 296351 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION makes suspicious noises
< 1441765218 360007 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beep. < 1441765219 915124 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boop. < 1441765382 991133 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ølist < 1441765726 927231 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:101:2cc0:4001:8005:ff49:1ec9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441767296 958941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: prediction: mr. scruffy will turn the tides hth < 1441767530 637867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mr. scruffy didn't go down to the moot with them afair < 1441767610 294462 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mr. scruffy can follow belkar wherever he goes, i'm sure < 1441767613 135872 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's a moot point < 1441767766 647026 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder. < 1441767769 250852 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo tswett < 1441767772 469992 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett < 1441767776 594845 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`loudly tswett < 1441767777 525889 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04,09t09,04s04,09w09,04e04,09t09,04t < 1441767791 519536 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My client doesn't seem to recognize the latter as my nick. < 1441768375 818189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm wondering more about bloodfeast the former dinosaur < 1441768428 283349 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely that polymorph spell will be removed some day < 1441768435 165540 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/balefulPolymorph.htm < 1441768502 954973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :complicated < 1441769343 287266 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`loudly N_T, DoS, LoW, DoW < 1441769344 130160 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04,09N09,04_04,09T09,04,04,09 09,04D04,09o09,04S04,09,09,04 04,09L09,04o04,09W09,04,04,09 09,04D04,09o09,04W < 1441769493 822696 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1441769544 834427 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441769569 419620 :sammwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441769604 384751 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1441769622 824128 :sammwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 NICK :heddwch < 1441769872 411047 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION curses.
< 1441769893 425996 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finding out you can't get your passport before international travel: FUCK. < 1441770007 360583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1441770013 503763 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :switzerland? < 1441770190 337922 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why can't you get your passport, pikhq? May I ask? < 1441770559 783298 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fucked up the application. < 1441770594 921491 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helps handing them the *correct* expired passport. < 1441770600 313623 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1441770603 889880 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: is there an expedited application you can do to get it in time? < 1441770625 606587 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The soonest I can *get in* to apply for an expedited passport is after I need to be there. < 1441770656 246957 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1441770660 978500 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me join you then < 1441770661 579660 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK < 1441770665 720970 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sucks to be me then. < 1441770670 22088 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yep. < 1441770794 490822 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... sounds like I'm VCing at like midnight then? < 1441770914 453390 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Bubblegum14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44111&oldid=44054 5* 03Dennis 5* (+2) 10 < 1441770939 645654 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: glhf < 1441770959 618249 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sayeth FMLFMLFML
< 1441771028 325048 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441771098 5985 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should be asleep < 1441771105 611405 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to be at training for the new job tomorrow morning < 1441771108 931438 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon to be today morning < 1441771109 908605 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1441771116 981123 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: good to know < 1441771123 78738 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what job is it? < 1441771210 72738 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :software developer at a local firm < 1441771306 574653 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :exciting < 1441771338 162503 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just tell them you were on irc all night < 1441771344 723773 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the'll probably understand < 1441771777 964483 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: feels like lampshading < 1441772436 183055 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd work at Google HTH. < 1441772872 598644 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it would, wouldn't it < 1441772878 244737 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it wouldn't on your first day < 1441772990 564725 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1441773065 30588 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:101:2cc0:4001:8005:ff49:1ec9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. what, actually, is the easiest TC esolang to implement < 1441773078 912357 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:101:2cc0:4001:8005:ff49:1ec9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, brainfuck has brace matching! so hard < 1441773081 252846 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuk < 1441773104 319939 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really but you can just use someone else's implementation < 1441773172 584309 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/2014 < 1441773201 893704 :sc00fy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1441773214 155869 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :an interpreter is trivial to write for it < 1441773246 678859 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should improve the list of complexity classes so that actually is some information being listed. < 1441773262 996472 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Implement in what? < 1441773281 948095 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:101:2cc0:4001:8005:ff49:1ec9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hmm, let's say C < 1441773303 198861 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can compile bf to C pretty easily if you have a C compiler. < 1441773311 976188 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess strictly speaking that's not what you mean by C. < 1441773415 768550 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:101:2cc0:4001:8005:ff49:1ec9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i mean like an actual C program that reads code and runs it; not a conversion to C < 1441773445 338174 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:101:2cc0:4001:8005:ff49:1ec9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose "TC" is inaccurate but (barfs), do we have a word for "TC but not really but ykwim man" < 1441773857 65571 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually there is a concept for this < 1441773866 315764 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know of a succinct name < 1441773878 636248 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there does exist a notion of a turing-complete program class < 1441773889 955617 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:101:2cc0:4001:8005:ff49:1ec9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Bounded-storage_machine ? < 1441773890 752126 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd have to look up my notes for them though and I'm going to sleep now < 1441773906 617149 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: sort of < 1441773929 347734 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_complexity < 1441773932 33224 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there, read that < 1441774007 238848 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:101:2cc0:4001:8005:ff49:1ec9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe bf where [ and ] are instead jumps that double/halve the pc < 1441774068 894815 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: 1 found in /dev/zero < 1441775673 911131 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1441775692 236867 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ya'll should use boolfuck < 1441775768 856361 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so easy to implement a Turing-complete esolang in C, people do it by accident < 1441775799 976373 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know: Jafet is Turing-complete < 1441775832 635406 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :#include \ int main(void) { char buf[100]; fgets(buf, 1000, stdin); return 0; } < 1441776073 864777 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear some people are Turing-hard. < 1441776139 320802 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:101:2cc0:4001:8005:ff49:1ec9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't look like a very good interpreter < 1441776198 514764 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: You can use it to call a better one < 1441776200 603800 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:101:2cc0:4001:8005:ff49:1ec9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you just pray "buf" is right before the memory you're executing, which gets buffer overflown and then instead of "return 0" you're running machine code? < 1441776308 297371 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In correct code, you don't buffer overflow, you dynamically size your buffer appropriately. < 1441776344 475479 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance: int main(void) { char *buf = 0; getline(&buf, (size_t[]){0}, stdin); return 0; } < 1441776449 116421 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: (size_t[]){0} looks like C++ < 1441776459 675576 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's C99. < 1441776493 759663 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Essentially all that does is produce an unnamed size_t[1]. < 1441776503 435278 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(on the stack, of course) < 1441776521 373675 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a natural consequence of C99 adding array and struct literals. < 1441776577 998147 :ineiros_!~itniemin@dsl-hkibrasgw1-58c3fe-184.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1441776625 947769 :ineiros!~itniemin@dsl-hkibrasgw1-58c3fe-184.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1441776663 837015 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION can hear people in ##c complaining because "getline not standard!!!1!"
< 1441776774 382748 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's POSIX. < 1441776799 732834 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And frankly that's plenty good enough. You're kidding yourself if you think not-POSIX land gives a shit about C at all these days. < 1441776975 334619 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we're restricting ourselves to languages on the wiki, it's also much easier to interpret thue than brainfuck < 1441777017 972707 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some stuff on esolang wiki would be difficult or perhaps even impossible to implement, but some is much easier than being impossible. < 1441777175 82175 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never feel like i have enough time to implement stuff if it's more complicated than like...7 instructions :P < 1441777342 747056 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could exploit the TBFS formalism to implement many languages. < 1441777397 481516 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try to implement codesine the next time I work on it. < 1441777459 350761 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or part of it anyway. < 1441777485 892811 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1441777489 899417 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1441777537 213651 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:16] < Jafet> It's so easy to implement a Turing-complete esolang in C, people do it by accident < 1441777544 542328 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, too common to be considered esolang :) < 1441778531 274265 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get Jafet's joke :( < 1441778747 716737 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Virgolang is never on :( < 1441778765 426282 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Virgolang Can I get a basic time table as to when you are and are not online?? < 1441778765 590379 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1441779343 149088 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so easy to implement a Turing-complete esolang in C, people do it by accident <-- that is how scrip7 started < 1441779463 162549 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was initially trying to make a simple configuration file format, which ended up needing loops to assign the same value to a bunch of bytes, and if statements to make things depend on values placed in memory by the host, and... whoops < 1441779515 290948 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1441779654 751015 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://okmij.org/ftp/Computation/#sendmail-Turing < 1441781702 949358 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:101:2cc0:4001:8005:ff49:1ec9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: don't you need a free(buf) there? < 1441781711 190678 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:101:2cc0:4001:8005:ff49:1ec9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. "need" < 1441781752 53019 :bender|!~benderx2@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 QUIT :Quit: Ping Pong Fuckout < 1441782300 379533 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:101:2cc0:4001:8005:ff49:1ec9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/catseye/Thue/blob/master/src/thue.c this looks a bit more involved than "match braces and run through a while loop" but some of it is fluff and most of it is the fact that handling strings in C is annoying < 1441782353 943497 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we talk about that indentation style? < 1441782428 4403 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:101:2cc0:4001:8005:ff49:1ec9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, my opinion is that this is in almost no way simpler than brainfuck. its tokens are "big" so you can't just loop over the chars, there are lots of weird edge cases for I/O, it's nondeterministic, it involves string replacement < 1441782428 321647 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah wtf. correct indents is one tab per indent. < 1441782439 248643 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:101:2cc0:4001:8005:ff49:1ec9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ps yes this indent style, help < 1441782550 488789 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wel its mor Du lak uv cNsistNcE than anything < 1441782580 918597 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ lk uv consistency ubuv deliberate < 1441782693 819873 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsO Du yus uv tU lIn ifs Dat cud fit on wun lIn < 1441782940 871650 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441782994 377110 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuk yU mIcrOsoft wI cant I hav u '?' or '()' in mI fIlnAm?! < 1441783060 607667 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you import data from a different filesystem? < 1441783078 877122 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean if you import files with characters that ntfs wouldn't allow < 1441783107 398535 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just wont 'cp' Du fIl < 1441783108 269110 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they ignored? converted? < 1441783138 236965 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sO I haf tU rEnAm Dem manUulE < 1441783199 234706 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cp: cannot create regular file ‘music/Charly Lownoise & Mental Theo - Hardcore Feelings (?).mp3’: Invalid argument < 1441783641 649345 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Du wRst part is I dNno wiC cerictRs ar invalid. stUpid erR mesaj! < 1441783742 625212 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441783829 59714 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: well, you don't need the clunky I/O for Turing-completeness. The string replacement is very easy to implement (strstr, realloc and memmove) < 1441783886 981341 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut!!!! cp: cannot create regular file ‘music/Milk Inc - Whisper.mp3’: File exists < 1441784020 86416 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Du dRectRE wuz emptE! hW can Du nAms bE Du sAm on ntfs but difrNt on ext3? < 1441784043 15105 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style sms < 1441784043 216861 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: sms (National University of Singapore SMS corpus, 2011-08-20) < 1441784060 972539 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:101:2cc0:4001:8005:ff49:1ec9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: can you stop < 1441784074 355294 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop wut? < 1441784185 561873 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cMplAniG ubWt ntfs or spelling things in a new way? < 1441784252 955383 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually pretty hard to read < 1441784314 335195 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am impressed how it is even possible, though < 1441784343 844336 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind hard, it's unpleasant. < 1441784404 828017 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if we agree that oren_ uses this spelling and oren (or, better yet, orin) uses traditional spelling? < 1441784426 728340 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot can serve as an interpreter. < 1441784426 983527 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: oh.. posb? nvr hear before leh.but i dun mind. you already there? rep. *brrr ur fb friends win cool coke can :) < 1441784458 136758 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how is it even possible to have two files with the same name in the same directory? < 1441784527 380416 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'VE BEEN LAUGHING FOR 10 MINUTES http://imgur.com/gallery/02BjRvJ < 1441784528 131230 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. NTFS is case insensitive. FUK! < 1441784535 285428 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use ntfs-3g to mount the filesystem on linux in case-sensitive mode < 1441784584 473300 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :On Windows, there's also SUA < 1441784817 785444 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm the two files are actually identical. < 1441784826 419371 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm keeping the one from 2006 though < 1441785214 587025 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441785266 629296 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: also look at http://zompist.com/spell.html ("Spelling reform by regularization" section is relevant) < 1441785285 793319 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1441785510 120012 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: I see. he uses diacritics, but they aren't on my murikan keyboard, therefore capitcal letters are better. < 1441785771 192199 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also this guy thinks cot has a different vowel than caught. < 1441785806 785316 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Another kind of idea would be, spell that increase your AC and you receive only half damage with spells but you also get penalty to attacks and can only cause half damage with spells." -- a steelform spell? sure, why not. it can't hurt to have more variations of those. < 1441785878 250809 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ^ < 1441785884 587715 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: "his" version of American English, so that is expected IMO. < 1441785918 817333 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, that page is a pretty good introduction to the automatic pronunciation reconstruction from spelling < 1441786022 906464 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:101:2cc0:4001:8005:ff49:1ec9 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1441786034 488132 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can't do the opposite, which is kind of a problem if you want to look it up in a dictionary < 1441786097 519238 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the spelling "reform" is what he got after removing any remaining special cases from his original reconsturction algorithm < 1441786103 913003 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1441786115 543709 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty heuristic, and ultimately a bit ambiguous < 1441786121 519652 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hey, we have an algorithm there :p < 1441786122 557670 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider if i wanted to look up the word sot. i have to try sought, sot, saught, sawt < 1441786149 319409 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik three of those are valid < 1441786203 646247 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some dictionary software supports lookup by voice. < 1441786206 452011 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recommend banning the longer pellings < 1441786306 832653 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually ban any sequence of gh < 1441786404 567675 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually kind of agree to that < 1441786424 248256 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the real complication is a large number of vowel digraphs (or, sometimes, trigraphs) < 1441786442 944782 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we would have lots of them even after banning gh < 1441787125 354556 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we need more letters and lVk, Ders a SHIFT key on my keyboard that makes different letter when it's pressed, why don't we use that?!? < 1441787342 144268 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean noone uses capital letters anymore on the internet unless they're shouting < 1441787667 585117 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1441789228 805016 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1441789232 226010 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1441789258 436354 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441789490 300725 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1441791070 524626 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 PART #esoteric :"WeeChat 1.2" < 1441791076 926350 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441793693 858412 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1441793716 962915 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441793719 13895 :Alcest!~alcest@93.186.169.30 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1441794438 773239 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-7-141.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1441795057 626767 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07J-why14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44112&oldid=44107 5* 03Jabutosama 5* (+1494) 10/* Programming with J-why */ < 1441795122 110416 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07J-why14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44113&oldid=44112 5* 03Jabutosama 5* (+10) 10/* Programming with J-why */ < 1441796953 925965 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1441797957 102713 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441797976 340207 :x1365C!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441797990 565341 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1441798099 880551 :x1365C!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 NICK :x10A94 < 1441798838 357183 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1441799774 188918 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441799928 370073 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1441800074 944470 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1441800117 856991 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441800302 297018 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e JOIN :#esoteric < 1441801874 344885 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainloller14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44114&oldid=42181 5* 0394.62.69.164 5* (+16) 10 < 1441802586 121014 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1441802661 171221 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you guys know hex? < 1441802665 669546 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hex the game i mean < 1441802714 65991 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've read about it < 1441802809 784716 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanna plaaaaay? < 1441803275 18938 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to work < 1441803799 593675 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera, I don't know it, what is it? < 1441803809 951747 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a board game < 1441803827 836033 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of board game? < 1441803861 890066 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's this kite shaped board with two opposite red sides and two opposite blue sides < 1441803869 490292 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :with hexagonal tiles < 1441803911 901586 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :each player must create a bridge between his two sides < 1441803925 72455 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that game! < 1441803931 711693 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes exactly! < 1441803939 902686 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not very good at it :(* < 1441805670 786710 :`^_^!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1441806196 319728 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441806543 470221 :`^_^!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com NICK :`^_^v < 1441806790 837377 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've got a sieve of Atkin in Haskell < 1441806822 994535 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone have a checksum of all the primes less than 6 million, in ascending order, one per line? < 1441806957 763194 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1441807431 276890 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1441807469 499644 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1192390967254 < 1441807476 438053 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the sum < 1441807578 863603 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can confirm that's the sum < 1441807599 79476 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get 5b5abad etc for the sha256 < 1441807626 670603 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got the right sha256 < 1441807635 963357 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1441807678 207228 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1192390967254 < 1441807682 265154 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks cloud.sagemath.org < 1441807683 290765 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, cloud.sagemath.org. Thoud.sagemath.org. < 1441807685 526665 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks right < 1441807693 30648 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks ashl < 1441807693 839501 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, ashl. Thashl. < 1441807763 942661 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lpaste.net/140543 < 1441807765 187487 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wolfram alpha refused to help me < 1441807803 822366 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(depends on vector and pqueue) < 1441807908 700616 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also kind of ugly code) < 1441807953 364205 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_o < 1441807983 423996 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sieve of Atkin is not the cleanest algorithm < 1441807988 926878 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor am I the best programmer < 1441808076 535936 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The actual Sieve of Erastothenes is pretty good < 1441808144 818643 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actual? < 1441808194 236422 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ashl, there's a thing that used to (maybe still is) bandied about that claims to be the sieve of Erastothenes in Haskell but isn't < 1441808195 39062 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to the fake version that is actually trial division in disguise < 1441808202 891268 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, iirc it's worse than trial division < 1441808217 492825 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.cs.hmc.edu/~oneill/papers/Sieve-JFP.pdf is the relevant paper < 1441808249 101413 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, it is trial division < 1441808352 546859 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just bad trial division < 1441808427 668962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1441808485 305019 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ,that < 1441808504 497812 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used that paper for implementation hints < 1441808576 111480 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I got in a muddle and ended up just using the hint to use a priority queue < 1441808638 78626 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing I ought to work out how to do is generating the candidates lazily < 1441808675 847199 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can have an infinite list < 1441808735 93170 :ashl!~ash@185.83.217.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1441808784 483682 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than just the first 6 million < 1441808791 667853 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or any other natural multiple of 60) < 1441810119 852955 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/! < 1441810120 764517 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/%21 < 1441810173 325256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l bin/! < 1441810175 94010 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 6 Jun 21 02:47 bin/! -> interp < 1441810182 172088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's still a link < 1441811034 431773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 it was intended so that we could add esolangs to it ourselves instead of having to bother Gregor <-- the problem is that HackEgo never got all of EgoBot's features and what _was_ belatedly transfered of EgoBot's structure is hard to discover and modify and doesn't fit at all with the "linux system" basis. < 1441811034 632625 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1441811191 18670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 and the "linux system" part keeps getting new layers added as newbies don't know about the old ones. < 1441811191 220633 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1441811366 122102 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1441813483 236303 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBS < 1441814173 446176 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1441815235 629882 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441817229 443135 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1441817249 918120 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441817453 307014 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Boo! < 1441818015 525679 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1441818129 560434 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1441818762 309365 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441819149 583889 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-85.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1441821166 152305 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1441821553 419795 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1441822563 677288 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1441822707 746551 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1441823172 42300 :Lithiumate!5e7bc279@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.123.194.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441823180 70764 :Lithiumate!5e7bc279@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.123.194.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a bot < 1441823182 640221 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made the game which resemble the puzzle mode of the Panel de Pon game, although additionally there are blocks that cannot be matched, as well as in addition to switches you can also use erasers and rotators. < 1441823192 582222 :Lithiumate!5e7bc279@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.123.194.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am writing modules for it < 1441823201 748777 :Lithiumate!5e7bc279@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.123.194.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has only bf interpreter. < 1441823216 733605 :Lithiumate!5e7bc279@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.123.194.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now, writing it an befunge interpreter. < 1441823231 906984 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lithiumate: What bot is that, what is module being written with, is there the information of it? OK you can please write some more! < 1441823245 790642 :Lithiumate!5e7bc279@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.123.194.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :python! < 1441823309 416849 :Lithiumate!5e7bc279@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.123.194.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i will connect them to my bot for use of people < 1441823311 536360 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aykkkjextohtcsva JOIN :#esoteric < 1441823352 194737 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1441823564 893920 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-78.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1441823577 169784 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tsumeshogi! I play the game! < 1441823681 570382 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Sinatra14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=44115 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+113) 10/* To IRC! */ new section < 1441823907 676889 :Lithiumate!5e7bc279@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.123.194.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will write virgo interpreter soon < 1441823932 298199 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1441824058 446937 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's all the fuzz about this virgo thing? < 1441824062 396914 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1441824083 426121 :Lithiumate!5e7bc279@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.123.194.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is an esolang < 1441824095 119152 :Lithiumate!5e7bc279@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.123.194.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't login to my esolangs account! < 1441824104 557720 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there is information in wiki, you can look < 1441824135 943283 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1441824229 998666 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1441824337 918490 :hppavilion[1]_!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-78.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1441824471 930863 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-78.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1441824628 505183 :fractal!~fractal@unaffiliated/scounder JOIN :#esoteric < 1441824797 368024 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBS < 1441825483 838399 :hppavilion[1]_!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-78.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1441825528 421315 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1441825838 351568 :hppavilion[1]_!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-78.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1441826150 666043 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was this about login problems? < 1441827232 624483 :Lithiumate!5e7bc279@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.123.194.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot the pass and i don't linked email < 1441827495 613474 :Lithiumate!5e7bc279@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.123.194.121 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1441827798 933724 :sc00fy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1441828466 290780 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-7-141.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1441828569 645848 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-200-243.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1441828886 583285 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1441828948 231611 :Virgolang!5e7bc673@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.123.198.115 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441828991 579725 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: buying food < 1441829432 310489 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Piet-Q14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44116&oldid=32427 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (-14) 10/* Commands */ < 1441829479 889557 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :humans < 1441829532 23640 :humans!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1441829602 495720 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1441829704 602959 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1441830282 507912 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 NICK :readit_yay_for_a < 1441830289 84509 :readit_yay_for_a!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 NICK :heddwch < 1441830617 108298 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1441830794 450437 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aykkkjextohtcsva QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1441830829 882448 :hppavilion[1]_!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-78.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1441831300 807465 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 NICK :Muck_Peerburg < 1441831333 166620 :Muck_Peerburg!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 NICK :heddwch < 1441831363 171356 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :wch < 1441831436 680056 :wch!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1441832439 579605 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1441832737 713303 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1441832784 958906 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1441832818 830857 :myndzi!myndzi@tetrisguide.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1441833239 438633 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441833611 155350 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44117&oldid=43910 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+1977) 10It seemed a bit fragmented, try this. < 1441833831 276821 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :For Turing completeness either the number of cells must be unbounded or (at least) three unbounded cells are required, the former is usually assumed. < 1441833834 410606 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-200-243.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1441833852 43876 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you prove that less than 3 is not enough? < 1441834684 588193 :hppavilion[1]!4a725740@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.114.87.64 JOIN :#esoteric < 1441834713 754536 :hppavilion[1]!4a725740@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.114.87.64 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellu < 1441834959 902520 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1441835211 839294 :fowl!fowl@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-hfvwzvgasvkdabgn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you prove that you can prove that you can prove that you can prove that? < 1441835336 388905 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we allowed to mix unbounded and bounded cells? < 1441835843 7180 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1441835872 176662 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because then two unbounded cells are enough < 1441835895 412074 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :a finite tape and two unbounded cells < 1441835900 995788 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1441835918 442530 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(two counters can simulate three counters) < 1441835919 314074 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well show it < 1441835938 263432 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not really familiar with this kind of proof at all < 1441836069 63519 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :with two counters and a scratch counter, you can simulate two stacks, hence a tape. You can encode counters a, b, c as 2^a*3^b*5^c, and use the scratch counter and a finite number of states to check whether one of a, b or c is 0, or increment a counter, or decrement a non-zeor counter. < 1441836284 594633 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:101:2cc0:21dc:e48d:755a:fdbf JOIN :#esoteric < 1441836294 684454 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:101:2cc0:21dc:e48d:755a:fdbf QUIT :Changing host < 1441836294 849123 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1441836357 611067 :hppavilion[1]!4a725740@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.114.87.64 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1441836383 356507 :hppavilion[1]_!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1441836415 973191 :hppavilion[1]_!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org TOPIC #esoteric :The fnord never fnords fnord in the fnord fnord | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/ < 1441836420 476761 :hppavilion[1]_!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1441836424 203983 :hppavilion[1]_!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just changed nothing < 1441836430 111445 :hppavilion[1]_!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: < 1441836430 275723 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]_: k d i vil mistake me only cha.dnt talk? < 1441836445 870788 :hppavilion[1]_!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um < 1441836449 266681 :hppavilion[1]_!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK then < 1441836462 757080 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: oh a mystery < 1441836462 921208 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: aiyo cos she will not get an allowance for the first month < 1441836468 591153 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1441836468 755207 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms* speeches ss wp youtube < 1441836473 197108 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1441836491 23845 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-64-77.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1441836503 407996 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably the worst of all those styles < 1441836525 585481 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least if you try to figure out what is actually being said :P < 1441836529 780885 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style youtube < 1441836529 945106 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: youtube (Some YouTube comments) < 1441836559 852183 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1441836560 52790 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: great job. not some overrated movie with will ferrell called land of the scenes. i can't wait for the pilot if he dressed like that < 1441836570 322401 :hppavilion[1]_!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Virgolang: Hi < 1441836572 668964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1441836696 425227 :hppavilion[1]_!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1441836718 741744 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :land of the scenes would be a good movie < 1441836860 184955 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1441836986 875599 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441837369 833211 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1441837428 619350 :Virgolang!5e7bc673@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.123.198.115 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1441837514 698315 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1441837537 720863 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, virgo < 1441837693 273381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :virgone < 1441838228 368077 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-68.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1441838977 23428 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOD SAVE THE QUEEN < 1441838995 57957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's doing a pretty good job so far, i hear < 1441839127 876927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what, sonja? < 1441839144 980320 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, elizabeth. well i guess sonja too. < 1441839201 643382 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the future and Queen Elizabeth III and Queen Elizabeth IV are going to a party held by Queen Elizabeth V. < 1441839275 593437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the future sounds dutch < 1441839352 81113 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first couple of times I watched I didn't realize the age thing. < 1441839359 379751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'm not used to queens. < 1441839398 201306 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the age of Queen Elizabeth" is presumably an antitone function from naturals to naturals. < 1441839445 572155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for Queen Elizabeth VII the Time Traveler < 1441839478 530438 :Thisbe!~Thisbe@99-92-98-80.lightspeed.renonv.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441839503 967045 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should make a sitcom out of this < 1441839527 271457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sdrawkcaB ehT I- htebazilE neeuQ < 1441839573 964110 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also known as Queen Elizaaleph? < 1441839637 990322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not necessarily, although suspiciously no one _has_ seen them at the same time... < 1441839993 329606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : can you prove that less than 3 is not enough? <-- istr this keeps coming up. i vaguely think i thought the argument held last time... < 1441840021 105326 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have only 2 cells, then whenever you exit a loop, one of them must be 0. < 1441840045 632100 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move_redir10 02 5* 03Timwi 5* 10moved [[02CA (programming language)10]] to [[CA-1]] over redirect < 1441840090 507485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this means that if you start out with arbitrary values, then relatively soon _one_ of them can only have finitely many options < 1441840117 670587 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@133-171-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1441840122 545423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this means you can refactor the brainfuck program as a 1-counter state machine < 1441840130 339987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is known not to be TC. < 1441840172 5604 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(relatively soon = as soon as you have exited a loop) < 1441840235 328410 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1441840236 390325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm except there are some loops like [>-<+] that do copying, so the finite number of options doesn't hold at _every_ later moment < 1441840270 158556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* [>+<-] seems more likely < 1441840283 823441 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it should hold outside of innermost loops < 1441840312 798065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that yeah < 1441840490 925644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm there's some issues like you can do multiplication by constants, and division _if_ the remainder is 0 < 1441840510 726471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if not for the remainder 0 restriction that would be a TC machine) < 1441840563 582304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm there are too many possible loopholes for me to feel safe about this argument < 1441840574 522651 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking about the differences in how waves propagate depending on their frequency. < 1441840643 220237 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the major thing is probably multipath interference. < 1441840688 731599 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the size of the obstacles is much smaller than the wavelength, the amount of multipath interference is going to be small, so low-frequency waves will effectively "wrap around" those obstacles pretty well. < 1441840738 539155 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the obstacles are much larger than the wavelength, now you probably will see a lot of multipath interference. < 1441840799 497496 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you making a wave esolang < 1441841258 835532 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I should. < 1441841266 367134 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that would be so awesome. < 1441841343 245523 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A program just consists of, oh, a set of rectangles where you specify the characteristics of the medium there. < 1441841446 587619 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure exactly how you'd specify those characteristics. < 1441841464 653584 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess you could start by saying that you can specify the impedance. < 1441841571 167333 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearing_the_shape_of_a_drum < 1441842070 289590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i wonder how that castle compares to castle heterodyne... < 1441842212 586965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess "not as lethal" is a safe bet. < 1441842227 354578 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :safe... hehe. < 1441842273 265836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well at least unless the master _wants_ you dead < 1441842441 441519 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric : also known as Queen Elizaaleph? <-- this is a good joke < 1441842478 149956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1441843010 657409 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gVd EvniG! < 1441843054 609608 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :go kveill