< 1442361750 457578 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1442361869 569871 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found that Python has a tarfile module that will come in handy for Archive Formats in TaurusVM < 1442361917 661452 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1442361937 932571 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what should the file extensin be? < 1442361942 939310 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*extension < 1442361957 559689 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1442362110 54698 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll change Taurus Executables to .taurus files and make the archive format .tau < 1442362182 662171 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any programs that use unicode in their file extnsion? < 1442362195 290614 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I recall something. < 1442362198 732886 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing very serious. < 1442362201 740994 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe esolangs. < 1442362276 422262 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloworld.ç < 1442362292 322831 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't find anything right now. Even Ellipsis seems to use just '.' as the extension. < 1442362315 183670 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is kind of strange, since it uses the Unicode ellipsis character in the source code. < 1442362358 310545 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, actually it uses "..", so that it's "foo..."; maybe that wouldn't work so well with the Unicode ellipsis. < 1442362441 824000 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if I translated all keywords and stl functions, and made the extension .срр < 1442362481 429527 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could, of course, make the Taurus Executables .♉ files < 1442362536 733215 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that seems like a bad idea < 1442362595 310423 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whitespace programs should be named 'hello. ' < 1442362605 877933 :Tod-Autojoined2!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1442362606 514558 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the like < 1442362618 738562 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough < 1442362637 632937 :gde33|2!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1442362646 869133 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or 'hello. [\t][\n]' < 1442362747 607347 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-14-112.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1442362788 480567 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-14-112.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1442362788 658258 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1442362821 326488 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :'hello. < 1442362823 134529 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :' < 1442362838 521732 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1442362854 955750 :olsner_!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1442362883 163010 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1442362897 589636 :Tod-Autojoined!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1442362897 986211 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1442362899 794699 :puckipedia!puck@irc.puckipedia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1442362899 794781 :gde33!kvirc@546A0B75.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1442362902 354962 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1442362905 797032 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1442362905 797118 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1442362905 974841 :JesseH2!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1442362916 962009 :puckipedia!puck@irc.puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1442362986 719772 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, puckipedia! < 1442362991 120878 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, JesseH2! < 1442363009 450314 :JesseH2!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH PRIVMSG #esoteric :My connection was reset. No understand. < 1442363017 525199 :JesseH2!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH NICK :JesseH < 1442363020 85546 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird < 1442363125 328584 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@74-114-87-73.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Quit: WALRUS MAAAAAAAAAAAAN < 1442363496 431958 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1442363512 469573 :yorick_!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1442363512 647180 :yorick_!~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl QUIT :Changing host < 1442363512 647242 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1442363530 821950 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442363763 641120 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :*.net *.split < 1442363763 641222 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :*.net *.split < 1442363763 641248 :ocharles__!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ennwxjqnvznhvhqc QUIT :*.net *.split < 1442363763 641308 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :*.net *.split < 1442363763 641367 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1442363764 205219 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :*.net *.split < 1442363764 205241 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :*.net *.split < 1442363764 205258 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1442363788 920118 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1442363802 473088 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442363822 314009 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1442363919 426242 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1442364074 607886 :ocharles__!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vovbcfemfouxqdrh JOIN :#esoteric < 1442364669 510548 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1442364726 225874 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1442364729 791970 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Horn clauses are cool < 1442365080 836105 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: GREAT CHICKEN < 1442365609 308902 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1442365895 207517 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, we need something more esoteric < 1442366221 919572 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1442366246 999046 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Symball14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44217&oldid=44203 5* 03GoogolPlanck 5* (+522) 10/* Examples */ < 1442366435 400957 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1442367337 577482 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Codesine14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44218&oldid=44043 5* 03MDude 5* (+21) 10 < 1442368028 602916 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Balanced ternary logic < 1442368042 123868 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :With reversible gates < 1442368069 966342 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1442368492 683334 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Microscript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44219&oldid=44170 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+22) 10 < 1442368815 398279 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Balanced ternary or modal. Or modal balanced ternary. < 1442368838 492390 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Three by three grid of logical values. < 1442369133 335443 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :language in which programs are written as non-constructive proofs of the existence of a program to do X < 1442369233 555109 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1442369322 205283 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An itneractive programming language where you don't say what the program should do specifically, but instead just tell it when it's doing something wrong. < 1442369355 737950 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not to do specific thigns in specific conditions. < 1442369464 342362 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like "don't write to this area of memory when you're outside of this subroutine". < 1442369466 182167 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hexadecimal Stacking Pseudo-Assembly Language14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44220&oldid=44144 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+7) 10 < 1442369599 754740 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 NICK :pikhq < 1442370415 621211 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ᾧᾨᾩᾪᾫᾬᾭᾮᾯᾰᾱᾲᾳᾴᾶᾷᾸᾹᾺ < 1442370656 773003 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: scissors! ✁✂✃✄ < 1442371378 528465 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1442371670 402460 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Malbolge14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44221&oldid=43428 5* 03195.191.162.160 5* (+112) 10/* External resources */ Added link to Malbolge interpreter online < 1442372025 51243 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, Pandorabots changed it's site. < 1442372027 476257 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*its < 1442372120 649252 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait no the original is still at http://www.pandorabots.com/botmaster/en/home < 1442372406 663071 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've certainly played with it as a kid, but people use this thing for production? < 1442372410 800114 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always thought it was a toy < 1442372652 130854 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1442372681 814836 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For production of what? < 1442372731 127650 :yiyus!~124271242@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1442372735 465504 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how being a toy changes my expectation of not having to link my account with it to yahoo or whatever. < 1442372741 96631 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1442372810 321973 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you tihnk of AIML, fungot? < 1442372810 963961 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: you make an excellent point. given its apparent fnord, apart from " don't get caught" or " demonstrate fnord in hebrew." such allegations are unfounded and slanderous. they did not have a porn career and did not state what caused his death, he took up boxing under the fnord section), but we really should use the proper deletion procedures as explained in the lead of the article, i didn't do that in your writing and editi < 1442372861 877070 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite the proffesional opinion, thank you. < 1442372875 826504 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: What's the new site for PandoraBots? < 1442372878 397625 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks interesting < 1442372913 922858 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's http://www.pandorabots.com which I got linked to from http://www.alicebot.org/aiml.html < 1442372922 564634 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither even mentions the other. < 1442372997 325348 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking I would take another try at making a chatbot that acts as an adventure game dungeon master. < 1442373746 321460 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nopfunge14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=44222 5* 0369.165.212.148 5* (+5098) 10Added page < 1442373756 530905 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1442373946 580132 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making a mathematics engine for mathemeticians and students < 1442373952 60161 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOSS of course < 1442373958 485247 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I support surreal numbers? < 1442373960 987914 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll go with yes < 1442373966 74084 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complex surreals! < 1442373971 429442 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't see why not. < 1442374002 966151 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely sure what surreals represent? < 1442374061 750208 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nopfunge14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44223&oldid=44222 5* 0369.165.212.148 5* (+109) 10A few cosmetic edits < 1442374095 109393 :augur!~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1442374195 388511 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh,t hey can be represented in ASCII. < 1442374199 169620 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1442374358 402681 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complex surreals sound good for a mathematical engine. < 1442374373 377009 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For surreal numbers I'm using w and e for infinity and infinitesimal < 1442374401 921257 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of ω and ε < 1442374414 790037 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though {L|R} form will also be available < 1442374442 659212 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's going to be advised in my engine that you use names >3 characters long for variables, because if you use R it will collide with all real numbers, etc. < 1442374472 847203 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well you can't wait around for students to actually type out an infinitely long {L|R} definition of w and e. < 1442374501 195175 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1442374505 145353 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd almost take forever. < 1442374509 772499 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dual numbers will be available too < 1442374548 771413 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well ... notation will be available < 1442374560 506117 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though the pattern recognition component will be hard < 1442374576 606743 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't just do 1, 2, 3... = N < 1442374591 468398 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:101:2cc0:3928:79a7:bbc7:cc19 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442374597 43935 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The duals are definitely an awesome feature to have. < 1442374601 425137 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because what about 1, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8... < 1442374603 879680 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1442374613 611657 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DUAL SURREAL QUATERNIONS < 1442374625 594547 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better than dual mini uzies < 1442374641 53649 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and means you can do automatic differentiation!) < 1442374665 842194 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nopfunge14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44224&oldid=44223 5* 0369.165.212.148 5* (+151) 10Some more cosmetic edits < 1442374669 784184 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't understand differentiation! < 1442374674 756854 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is still in high school! < 1442374684 620455 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ggbxmueaoevvmgcy JOIN :#esoteric < 1442374692 480380 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what should the symbol for the nilpotent be? < 1442374709 249750 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can't be ε because typing < 1442374724 35786 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, because ε is the infinitesi- oooooooh < 1442374728 781204 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was surprised to discover that "is dual to" isn't a symmetric relationship. < 1442374742 855039 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ε**2=0, doesn't it? < 1442374744 204785 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(a + b \varepsilon) = f(a) + b f'(a) \varepsilon < 1442374747 848338 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a great property. < 1442374776 706844 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in this context, ε is the infinitesimal) < 1442374785 110262 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE NOW < 1442374790 221467 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HAVE BEEN ENIGHTENED < 1442374793 386627 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ET CETERA < 1442374830 569290 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, ε**2 /does/ equal zero, right? < 1442374837 643014 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is ε**2 still ε? < 1442374902 939155 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better than explicit dual numbers is this thing where you don't have any numbers d such that d^2 = 0, but you do have a set D = {x | x <- R, x^2 = 0} and you universally quantify over D. < 1442374927 358019 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh/ < 1442374935 277198 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me try to remember how set notation works < 1442374951 82156 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that's equivalent to the pseudopythonic... < 1442374952 774977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think http://math.andrej.com/2008/08/13/intuitionistic-mathematics-for-physics/ might be the thing I'm talking about. < 1442374968 748390 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Buh, buh, but D = {} < 1442374975 265376 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :set(*[x for x in AllRealNumbers if x**2==0]), correct < 1442374978 30604 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1442374980 238930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: D contains 0, at leat. < 1442375003 628957 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Ah, duh, of course it does. < 1442375015 607381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the thing is that it might contain other things. < 1442375026 927299 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is the infinitesimal a nilpotent or not? < 1442375052 223556 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I would say it is *analogous to* the nilpotent. < 1442375058 942522 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1442375065 644346 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the closest I'd get without some heavy proofing. < 1442375069 649558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are all sorts of infinitesimals. < 1442375077 348586 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the surreal numbers include the dual numbers? < 1442375154 539524 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This isn't going to be a mathematical engine so much as a convoluted blob of everything I know about math or can find out about math molded into one, monolithic structure < 1442375174 314521 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, surreal quaternion matrices will be a thing. < 1442375191 702991 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which, I suppose, they technically are < 1442375221 456939 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not well studied, but that sounds like a genuinely trivial thing to construct at least. < 1442375264 168141 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:101:2cc0:3928:79a7:bbc7:cc19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"where you don't have any numbers d such that d^2 = 0" -- what about d=0? < 1442375265 349708 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: They will support Kleene Algebra < 1442375289 117424 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: 0**2=i < 1442375304 362371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: You can't explicitly name any nonzero numbers d such that d^2 = 0. < 1442375317 670876 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some articles about it that I'm thinking of that I can't find right now. < 1442375327 644805 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Nonzero" is an important property there. < 1442375329 633784 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway you gotta do it in a topos or something. < 1442375364 90066 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I include the Notta Numbers? < 1442375364 470766 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the thing about it is that as long as you can prove your thing works with *all* d with that property, you can divide by d. < 1442375371 851095 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1442375372 102332 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if the only d you ever actually deal with is 0. < 1442375375 55512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something like that? < 1442375421 604489 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nopfunge14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44225&oldid=44224 5* 0369.165.212.148 5* (+358) 10Some more tidying up < 1442375425 40237 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously < 1442375427 852897 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Notta Numbers < 1442375450 58954 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ζ=1/0 < 1442375456 365012 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where ζ is the Notta Constant < 1442375467 472182 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1442375478 958940 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am genuinely surprised that is not a thing < 1442375549 75072 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Notta Sums are of the form a+bζ < 1442376085 670548 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Nopfunge14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44226&oldid=44225 5* 0369.165.212.148 5* (+27) 10A little more editing < 1442376146 781338 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1442376159 584472 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok this time I've created a monster :3 < 1442376214 476331 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's befunge, except the program on the right side of ; is repeated an infinite number of copies < 1442376235 395659 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(horizontally) < 1442376249 118600 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and everything below = is repeated an infinite number of copies (vertically) < 1442376289 834604 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and it has no operations except for ^ v < > and space < 1442376296 673349 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Nopfunge < 1442376357 413332 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it is turing complete :D < 1442376992 381776 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm back! Since I left, I've been writing a program to calculate that hpoids are of the form... < 1442376993 193462 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a+bi+cω+dε+eζ+fωi+gεi+hiζ+iεω+jωζ+kεζ+lεωi+mωiζ+nεiζ+oεωζ+pεωiζ < 1442377062 941898 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: We noticed you editing it < 1442377076 385866 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... right :o < 1442377077 308357 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LD < 1442377078 461106 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1442377110 545443 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you impressed by the new kind of number I made up? < 1442377144 240137 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit < 1442377148 275882 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably messed up with i < 1442377155 904705 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I don't really get what they are for < 1442377169 314841 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's basically a generalization of complex surreal numbers < 1442377171 678177 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It includes: < 1442377188 158383 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :- The real numbers (any constant) < 1442377197 558166 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :- The imaginaries (anything with i) < 1442377210 28279 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :- The infinites (anything with gamma) < 1442377225 630827 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :- The infinitesimals (anything with epsilon) < 1442377232 469349 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :- The Notta Numbers (anything with zeta) < 1442377266 446366 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the dual numbers, which use the nilpotent/infinitesimal times a real number added to a real number < 1442377289 787519 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1442377330 380084 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curious about the Notta Numbers? < 1442377338 911183 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I'm not familiar with surreal and etc < 1442377353 842105 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and notta which doesn't seem to return anything on the goog < 1442377375 116340 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The surreal numbers are a set of number generalized to include infinities and infinitesimals < 1442377388 237841 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surreal_number < 1442377394 224200 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That page has a nice diagram on it for you < 1442377402 512657 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could add in quaternions too < 1442377408 515091 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complex you hopefully understand < 1442377409 860984 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1442377422 628904 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Notta Numbers are a thing I made up < 1442377431 147172 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read it out loud < 1442377443 979280 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the o makes the ah sound) < 1442377466 350560 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Notta constant, ζ, is equal to 1/0 < 1442377488 988727 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A notta number is a real number times the notta constant, xζ, and is equal to x/0 < 1442377500 486639 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0ζ is equal to All Real Numbers < 1442377527 358946 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Notta Sum is analagous to complex numbers, a+bζ < 1442377532 10250 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In mathspeak: < 1442377537 43492 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ζ=1/0 < 1442377543 780666 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aζ=a/0 < 1442377551 255804 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0ζ=R < 1442377581 968368 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Notta Sums can't be represented any better than just the formula a+bζ in mathspeak < 1442377758 597580 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1442378094 797316 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's gonna take some time to understand surreals < 1442378123 977541 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike complex numbers it's not really something with an application in my field < 1442378142 48051 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1442378155 546708 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it really _has_ an application in _any_ field < 1442378160 877673 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except topology... < 1442378164 908697 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weirdos... < 1442378170 111645 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh :3 < 1442378247 819190 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I write a python library to represent the Uber Numbers? < 1442378328 220140 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I will < 1442378374 548208 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRESSING QUESTION 1: Are the Infinities and Infinitesimals their own axis, like the Imaginaries, or a generalization of the Reals? < 1442378383 330382 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really don't know < 1442378396 478191 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably a new axis, but I'm not 100% sure < 1442378428 561569 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm bringing in you. Your sage advice may just be useful in this situation < 1442378440 741337 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinitesimals I consider are evil < 1442378467 444863 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ω*ε==1, correct? < 1442378472 185330 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My advice is being more concise. < 1442378485 340717 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :simply because on x86 if you have a calculation that gives infinitesimals it slows to a crawl because some idiot thought handling underflows in an interrupt was a good idea < 1442378500 515700 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ouch < 1442378507 585100 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, do you write compilers or something? < 1442378515 939859 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sound processing < 1442378544 39002 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ah < 1442378547 621774 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1442378551 223477 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ah < 1442378552 676036 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ah < 1442378556 922428 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ah < 1442378559 347466 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff like mem += (input - mem) * param; < 1442378564 238094 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :happens often < 1442378566 132960 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, couldn't resist < 1442378566 907388 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1442378579 987104 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if input is zero, mem falls exponentially < 1442378599 353750 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Careful, don't reveal corporate secrets ;) < 1442378599 839966 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eventually it gives out very small but nonzero numbers < 1442378611 769928 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very small but nonzero? < 1442378630 110741 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :under 2 ^ -127 < 1442378664 996466 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pfft < 1442378667 746382 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's nothing < 1442378667 926225 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is when the cpu starts generating so called "denormal" numbers < 1442378673 529232 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ans slows to a crawl < 1442378677 821905 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I say infinitesimal, I'm talking 1/∞ < 1442378697 79949 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be nothing if it didn't take 100x more cpu < 1442378726 642226 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denormal_number < 1442378808 620495 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :computations involving floating point infinity or NAN are also horrible < 1442378841 221121 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand that those were introduced for engineers but their performance is so poor that they're unusable < 1442378907 595158 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I still don't know whether to represent infinity and infinitesimal on their own axis or as an extension of the real axis < 1442378941 265343 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure of what they even are tbh < 1442378948 677616 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1442378949 130531 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their own doesn't sound right because then abs(x) where x is an uber with a value for infinity will be finite < 1442379043 569906 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be a function giving the non-infinitesimal part of x < 1442379054 666370 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But extension doesn't sound right either because of a+bω+cε+dεω < 1442379063 612546 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a function giving thr infinite part of x < 1442379068 373338 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which couldn't be represented property < 1442379104 909522 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dεω = d < 1442379121 29972 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right xD < 1442379228 345286 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however dε² ≠ dε < 1442379266 874343 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1442379273 38612 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hence there is infinitesimal, and infintesimesimal, etc. < 1442379274 560578 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd need a whole array < 1442379293 940570 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: I'm using python, so I'll either uses a class or a map (in a class) xD < 1442379296 87075 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for epsilon, epsilon^2, epsilon^3, epsilon^4 etc < 1442379303 714272 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1442379333 142610 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should read about the formalization of calculus on the Hyperreals < 1442379344 448256 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hyperreals are scow. < 1442379352 484803 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is an alternative to the use of limits < 1442379354 583235 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That other thing I talked about is where it's at. < 1442379359 683431 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: So should infinity be on a different axis or an extension of the reals? If it's an extension, the sum of a finite number and a non-finite number won't work unless I do sometheing weird < 1442379379 470798 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You use hyperreals, and then you take the real part of your hyperreal ratio anyway. < 1442379380 819723 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a different axis < 1442379389 611674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what have you gained over limits? Like, nothing, man. < 1442379403 916795 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Synthetic differential geometry, or smooth infinitesimal analysis, or whatever it is, is where it's at. < 1442379419 517304 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you've gained the ability to talk like Leibniz < 1442379422 727501 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw < 1442379439 54635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does Leibniz talk? < 1442379449 904339 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he uses infinitesimals < 1442379453 755914 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dy/dx < 1442379500 802858 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: And if I do the separate axis, abs(3+4ω)=5 < 1442379505 972848 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that doesn't seem right < 1442379512 627729 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems like it should be 3+4ω < 1442379529 168268 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :abs doesn't collapse all the axes < 1442379558 571645 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to heve different functions to collapse different axes. for example st() < 1442379573 980057 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ironically, function smoothness seems to be related to turing completeness < 1442379609 464035 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like turing complete -> function is recursive -> function is non smooth < 1442379613 60085 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren_: It does for complex numbers... < 1442379626 176091 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :st() is defines such that st(a + bε + cε²) = a < 1442379652 834172 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've lost me < 1442379656 351120 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: right but not for hyperreals or in this case i guess hypercomplexes < 1442379664 836518 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1442379677 557099 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: st() gives the non-infinitesimal part < 1442379694 893007 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what's ²? Is that... superscript epsilon? < 1442379703 365230 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to need help with this xD < 1442379714 295541 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it is superscript 2 < 1442379732 662013 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my point is, all the epsilon parts of st(x) are removed < 1442379745 357160 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah? < 1442379793 527815 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1442379799 563231 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperreal_number < 1442379807 696216 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not doing hyperreals < 1442379810 196074 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or am I? < 1442379821 372112 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are < 1442379827 718309 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird < 1442379837 641878 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are doing hypercomplexes < 1442379852 520986 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting < 1442379866 825115 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if it's the superreals instead of the complexes? < 1442379913 695422 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1442379927 848144 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm now writing the most mathematically strange python library ever < 1442380020 913409 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bitwise functions are going to be a pain < 1442380032 79709 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How the hell does that even work? < 1442380046 9895 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is bitwise complex numbers a thing? < 1442380050 956953 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so, how does _that_ work? < 1442380161 356471 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably exclude the Notta numbers because that's just made up bullshit < 1442381411 730654 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question isn't "are they bullshit", the question is more like "are they coherent" < 1442381458 919492 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Notta numbers? < 1442381632 449053 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, bitwise complex numbers would work like any other bitwise operation on a rotation value. < 1442381779 732199 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Notta numbers are descibed further up. < 1442381809 368067 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[23:50] the Notta Numbers < 1442381809 548349 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[23:50] ζ=1/0 < 1442381809 548443 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[23:50] Where ζ is the Notta Constant < 1442381809 548472 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[23:51] xD < 1442381809 548504 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[23:51] I am genuinely surprised that is not a thing < 1442381809 548531 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[23:52] Notta Sums are of the form a+bζ < 1442381859 217820 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pesonally prefer the idea of the number circle more, but won't condem other systems. < 1442381993 343598 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :number circle? < 1442382032 486333 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A circle of infinite radius is a line, so the reverse also hold true. < 1442382069 761610 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When graphing numbers, each axis is a line, and thus a circle of infinite radius. < 1442382071 690750 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1442382077 354559 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-76-149.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1442382097 902687 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if 0 is at 0 degrees on that circle, 1 is at 90 degrees. < 1442382108 791577 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting < 1442382109 432136 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude, and inf=-inf? < 1442382119 301492 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1442382139 993572 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/0 * -1/-1 = -1/0 < 1442382157 350511 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/x would converge at the opposite side of the circle at 0. < 1442382157 568103 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/0 * 1 = -1/0 < 1442382182 6143 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the 2d graph being an infinite torus. < 1442382225 16571 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And where does ati, defined such that |ati| = -1, fit into this? < 1442382240 671310 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I really attempted that at one point) < 1442382258 832012 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't ehard of ai? < 1442382266 380130 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made it up when I was young < 1442382311 381909 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ is probably a good enough abbreviation < 1442382317 697827 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or @i, not sure which < 1442382331 874965 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe ai < 1442382332 446884 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds interesting, but I'm not sure how to visualise it well. < 1442382384 154305 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouild |-ati| also equal -1 or is it trickier than that? < 1442382404 785655 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember < 1442382427 677394 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does |a||b| = |ab| generally hold without ati? < 1442382451 771895 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I struggled more with addition than multiplication. This was a long time ago though < 1442382480 610264 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would? < 1442382518 584670 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since sign is basically treated separately from other aspects of multiplying. < 1442382547 405026 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a matter of wether an odd or even number of the number being multiplied are negative. < 1442382549 575319 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If |a| + |b| >= |a + b|, then |a| - 1 >= |a + @| < 1442382680 98442 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone here want to help me write a story reminiscent of Flatland based on http://xkcd.com/839/ < 1442382705 357369 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1442382707 791425 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :|@| + |-@| = -1 + -1 = -2; |@ + -@| <= -2? < 1442382712 392651 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!! < 1442382713 338702 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :How exciting! < 1442382796 181995 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooh < 1442382804 714608 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ is now my favorite number :) < 1442382807 674982 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude, help? < 1442382824 270464 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one? < 1442382829 661172 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/839/ people. http://xkcd.com/839/. < 1442382838 155413 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could say that that above rule is bad or that |-@| isn't -1, I think < 1442382866 324380 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :|-@| is most certainly 1 < 1442382910 990084 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That means giving up a nice multiplication rule though, I feel intuitively that the addition one was more questionable < 1442382913 941482 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I decided to check if you made it up < 1442382926 949760 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DDGed "|x|=-1 !wa" < 1442382934 977721 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wolfram Alpha gave me this: < 1442382941 258171 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Alternative form: False" < 1442382963 711980 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1442382980 952135 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So no one wants to help me write an xkcd 839 full story? :,( < 1442382987 362634 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am off to the sleep world. < 1442382993 943906 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's nearly 2AM. < 1442382995 192619 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], that xkcd reminded me of b < 1442383000 270061 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDream < 1442383004 796736 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of what? < 1442383038 851411 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :B < 1442383046 864503 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :B nomic < 1442383047 89304 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure what "b" or "B" is < 1442383049 366631 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But OK < 1442383078 264789 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a grid once, and objects place around the grid, including a valuable one far away where it would take a lot of time and resources to reach < 1442383096 331900 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except none of that happened because nothing had happened for years < 1442383108 309409 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We only thought that that stuff happened < 1442383130 76508 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :10/10 art film concept < 1442383178 635211 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh < 1442383184 962906 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nomic looks like a cool game < 1442383669 112555 :bender|!~benderx2@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442383697 915912 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, bender|! < 1442383710 159483 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making a story based on xkcd 839! < 1442383792 344042 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you like to help? < 1442383831 571970 :sc00fy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1442383924 342704 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.221 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442383947 100056 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bender| < 1442383952 136452 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You on? < 1442383978 190930 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :|@||@| = |@@|? < 1442384011 301610 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.221 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1442384233 959889 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :|x| = @? < 1442384343 300695 :yiyus!~124271242@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1442384379 43818 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: What's @**2? < 1442384383 742888 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@!? < 1442384403 403801 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think @! needs to be well defined < 1442384407 962112 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does < 1442384409 627716 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1442384412 84843 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's @ < 1442384413 283398 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duh < 1442384430 115579 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION would be cautious about saying duh about any of this < 1442384440 986975 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is < 1442384446 806007 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@=1@ < 1442384449 966839 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1!=1 < 1442384483 88586 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :5=1*5; 1!=1 < 1442384558 636665 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, right < 1442384560 657881 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOWEVER < 1442384565 748187 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ is the Fake Unit < 1442384612 219922 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm calling them the fake numbers because fake is the opposite of real, and |x| when x (- R is always positive, and |@x| when x (- r is always negative) < 1442384621 41667 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1442384655 692339 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's by analogy to i!=i < 1442384657 523483 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume < 1442384687 714588 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1442384688 669250 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=i+factorial < 1442384695 401289 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it isn't < 1442384696 164197 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1442384701 537728 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF is going on there!? < 1442384721 534622 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.49801566811835604271369111746219809195296296758765009289264... - < 1442384721 712468 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.15494982830181068512495513048388660519587965207932493026588... i < 1442384740 945432 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to guess gamma or zeta function shenanigan < 1442384741 535091 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1442384800 629612 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zeta function? < 1442384805 847858 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never heard of that one... < 1442384820 125585 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heard of the Gamma Function and the Pi Function, of course < 1442384850 595893 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what kinds of units are there? < 1442384856 179025 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1: The Unit < 1442384857 630913 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gamma function. I didn't rememeber whether extension of factorial was gamma or zeta. Apparently a zeta function does exist. < 1442384863 739848 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1: The inverse unit < 1442384883 16653 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gamma: The INFINIE unit < 1442384895 372704 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Epsilon: The infinitessimal unit < 1442384943 382430 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zeta: The Notta Constant/unit < 1442384949 399732 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i: The imaginary unit < 1442384954 845272 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@: the fake unit < 1442384974 701589 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 axes < 1442384993 544497 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take THAT, klein! < 1442385025 91942 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :....... < 1442385058 10256 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ is the time unit. Doesn't distance in relativity work something like x^2 + y^2 + z^2 - t^2? Almost like t is a negative distance? < 1442385105 346904 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define || such that |a+b@| = sqrt(a^2 - b^2). What happens? < 1442385109 162296 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting... < 1442385114 488785 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, that doesn't work if we allow imaginaries < 1442385142 313778 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder < 1442385146 224213 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it could still be interesting to play with < 1442385168 164407 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :|1+@| = 0 < 1442385171 674302 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many units do we need such that any algebraic expression is satisfiable WITHOUT just a "It doesn't work" unit? < 1442385176 805701 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infinity < 1442385179 662609 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm calling it < 1442385241 842339 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... think this shows that @ can be defined to have consistent rules, since that is a sensible function, and for reals that function matches absolute value < 1442385284 438374 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whelp < 1442385288 56230 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Congratulations < 1442385295 146533 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've invented a new branch of mathematics! < 1442385303 885513 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you need to choose a greek letter for @! < 1442385323 684309 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a normal letter < 1442385334 356964 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a with a dot over the tail < 1442385337 362461 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or an astrological sign. That works too < 1442385348 171419 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Add it to unicode people < 1442385369 484631 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's... evil. < 1442385426 193860 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bender|: Hellooo? < 1442385430 699131 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait my function's totally broken < 1442385437 163697 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How so? < 1442385475 353667 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :|@| = sqrt(- 1^2) = i < 1442385494 385484 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it because it means @=-1? < 1442385528 447039 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sqrt actually naturally gives +- results < 1442385537 669289 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the function is defined to ignore the negative < 1442385544 514555 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course < 1442385553 749290 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1442385564 34715 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought |@| was defined to be -1 < 1442385591 406088 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :|x|=i is still defined to be False < 1442385591 849506 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is, but sqrt(a^2 - b^2) doesn't work as a definition of |a+b@| if we want |@| to = -1 < 1442385601 475545 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1442385627 813148 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's just the @plex numbers that are messed up currently? < 1442385644 419079 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The c@mplex numbers? < 1442385648 72554 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well we could just define |a+b@| = |a| - |b| if we want to do things the obvious way < 1442385700 169947 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THe obvious thing to do from there is put some @ into a and b and see what breaks < 1442385729 898944 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :|@ + @| = |@| - |@| = 0 < 1442385735 754867 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is, uh < 1442385773 293264 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it... reasonable to exclude @-numbers from a and b? I can't tell, but I'm guessing not < 1442385842 12702 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait I'm dumb |@ + @| = |@| - 1 = -1 - 1 = -2 < 1442385892 792050 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's @**2 though? < 1442385915 976439 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :|@@| = -|@| = 1 < 1442385922 797805 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems reasonable to me < 1442385960 779570 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1442385974 81362 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making a document listing all the units < 1442386012 380923 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think unlike the prior function this one might still be breakable, because it's basically defined recursively < 1442386095 564413 :sc00fy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1442386099 979024 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still want to write a story about xkcd 839... < 1442386255 222023 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByRvNdqqy3GPMWRTU3R6ZXJyZm8&usp=sharing < 1442386351 817060 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: We can document @ and other units there < 1442386471 817010 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :|#|=i < 1442386529 993930 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_? < 1442386588 906811 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's possible with the current definition, you can only get real numbers. Could try some other shenanigans to get imaginary, but right now want sleep < 1442386600 581015 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know xD < 1442386601 374296 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1442386616 849390 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :|$|=@ < 1442386629 280686 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :find sqrt($) < 1442386632 248825 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1442387486 108100 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442387763 989400 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, AnotherTest! < 1442388007 545044 :hppavilion[1]!~YOURMUM@133-171-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Quit: WALRUS MAAAAAAAAAAAAN < 1442388389 748052 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1442388938 158064 :olsner_!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se NICK :olsner < 1442389096 8509 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1442389657 115199 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442389990 601563 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1442390254 300295 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-78.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1442390296 551958 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-78.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1442390296 729993 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1442391223 455107 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442392039 541311 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-22-72.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1442392084 780888 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-22-72.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1442392084 958374 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1442392095 311871 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1442393024 607097 :Kozmo!~Kozmo@86.104.31.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442393369 612474 :Kozmo!~Kozmo@86.104.31.121 NICK :theprobist69420 < 1442393388 328831 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1442393568 800704 :theprobist69420!~Kozmo@86.104.31.121 QUIT :Quit: Brb, i will probe someone. < 1442393596 521547 :Kozmo!~Kozmo@86.104.31.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442393904 593280 :Kozmo!~Kozmo@86.104.31.121 NICK :theprobist69420 < 1442394033 914647 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1442394037 471494 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1442394083 479866 :heddwch!~heddwch@76.8.3.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442394302 410811 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1442394500 809082 :theprobist69420!~Kozmo@86.104.31.121 QUIT :Quit: Brb, i will probe someone. < 1442394562 638010 :Kozmo!~Kozmo@86.104.31.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442394607 908300 :Kozmo!~Kozmo@86.104.31.121 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1442394622 612162 :theprobist69420!~theprobis@86.104.31.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442395811 893292 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is today's xkcd supposed to be a reference to that infamous D&D monster that looks like a rabbit on a tree stump? < 1442395880 816816 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get today's xkcd at all < 1442396352 346795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I like Nopfunge < 1442396390 750006 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'll impl it later < 1442396903 74269 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1442396976 374257 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1442397265 342402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1442398234 455993 :oerjan_!oerjan@129.241.210.46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442398255 155647 :oerjan_!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1442398255 333895 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1442398301 391534 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oren_ oh right. x^x = 1 when x = 1, and x^x is a smooth function. hence (1/x)^(1/x) approaches 1 as x -> +oo <-- your conclusion is right but your argument is wrong hth < 1442398301 569517 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ping < 1442398301 569605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1442398301 569628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1442398301 569647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks he's splat < 1442398301 569667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1442398301 570091 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1442398301 570142 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I do !zjoust; see http://zem.fi/bfjoust/ for more information. < 1442398301 570162 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That Pong alone cannot stop! < 1442398301 570183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Changing server < 1442398301 570201 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1442398301 570220 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1442398302 217431 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1442398312 781797 :oerjan_!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1442398320 107040 :oerjan_!oerjan@129.241.210.46 NICK :oerjan < 1442398376 164794 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice to see all your messages twice... < 1442398825 402271 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. < 1442398830 891802 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack < 1442398831 81175 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1442398835 310773 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 < 1442398836 706547 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1442398861 653239 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd. < 1442398875 116602 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it was just my original server being lagged < 1442398891 107010 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i reconnected < 1442398917 428310 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, I didn't check the timestamps. thanks. < 1442398951 863392 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/your/my/ < 1442399685 975516 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442399701 651986 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bood morningly < 1442399713 222929 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, close to < 1442399896 954000 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBL < 1442400029 352760 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oren_ Protip: logarithms < 1442400029 534926 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1442400129 788778 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've somehow got 3 log tabs open. although 2 are of the same date. < 1442400136 330270 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1442400156 669562 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no, they're not redundant.) < 1442400284 813681 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oren_ oh missed your correction. i still think that's circular, though. < 1442400284 991957 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1442400375 991955 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon matœrjan! < 1442400660 549893 :theprobist69420!~theprobis@86.104.31.121 QUIT :Quit: Brb, i will probe someone. < 1442400701 679819 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds probable < 1442400768 840728 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sound reasoning. < 1442400785 629254 :theprobist69420!~theprobis@86.104.31.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442401314 536423 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] MWAHAHAHAHA I HAVE RUINED MILLIONS OF PAST TEXTS EVERYWHERE <-- /g doesn't actually make much of a difference there hth < 1442401314 714103 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1442401379 109195 :hjulle!~hjulle@ankadagen.vth.sgsnet.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1442402068 338900 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1442402139 87120 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1442403193 167696 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CALENDAR CHICKEN < 1442404428 155649 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442404551 345859 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-76-149.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1442404734 985435 :TieSoul!~quassel@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1442404805 125380 :TieSoul!~quassel@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e JOIN :#esoteric < 1442404889 480221 :theprobist69420!~theprobis@86.104.31.121 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1442404910 936658 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/toe < 1442404912 367158 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] < 1442404921 91768 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? toe < 1442404922 34338 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Toe of Harriness's Enclosure < 1442404929 114221 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/toe < 1442404930 984722 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1442404936 902097 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the < 1442404937 848801 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Toe of Harriness's Enclosure < 1442405118 680980 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? b < 1442405119 711300 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :B is, in fact, a village in norway < 1442405149 246006 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn B is _not_ a village in Norway, unless you're even worse than the BBC and drop accented letters altogether. < 1442405151 128738 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'b': B is _not_ a village in Norway, unless you're even worse than the BBC and drop accented letters altogether. < 1442405160 356700 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Å < 1442405161 455656 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Å _is_ a village in Norway, unless you're the BBC and don't understand things on top of letters. < 1442405298 434373 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn B is _not_ a village in Norway, unless you're even worse than the BBC and drop letters with things on top of them altogether. < 1442405300 620587 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'b': B is _not_ a village in Norway, unless you're even worse than the BBC and drop letters with things on top of them altogether. < 1442405337 225252 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait < 1442405393 971867 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn B is _not_ a village in Norway, unless you're even worse than the BBC and drop strange letters altogether. < 1442405395 892271 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'b': B is _not_ a village in Norway, unless you're even worse than the BBC and drop strange letters altogether. < 1442405455 290460 :theprobist69420!~theprobis@86.104.31.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442405780 786234 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Bø is not just one, but _two_ municipalities in Norway. And not just three, but at least _four_ farms. Ah ah ah! < 1442405783 1964 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'bø': Bø is not just one, but _two_ municipalities in Norway. And not just three, but at least _four_ farms. Ah ah ah! < 1442405983 970363 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Ii < 1442405984 646070 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ii? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1442405995 505831 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Ii is a muncipality in Finland, no matter what you do. < 1442405997 264991 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'ii': Ii is a muncipality in Finland, no matter what you do. < 1442405997 908047 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¢ < 1442405998 586383 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¢? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1442406014 526415 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poland has a place called Hel < 1442406019 493601 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i -e 's/munc/munic/' wisdom/ii < 1442406022 893203 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1442406050 264778 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Norway has a place called Hell hth < 1442406058 43598 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append ii Except for speaking Swedish. < 1442406060 94861 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'ii': Ii is a municipality in Finland, no matter what you do. Except for speaking Swedish. < 1442406067 784878 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's "Ijo" in Swedish.) < 1442406097 565273 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is it very bright there? < 1442406099 139920 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Bø is not just one, but _two_ municipalities in Norway. And not just three, but at least _four_ farms. Ah ah ah ah ah! < 1442406101 990228 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'bø': Bø is not just one, but _two_ municipalities in Norway. And not just three, but at least _four_ farms. Ah ah ah ah ah! < 1442406110 982906 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their "you're entering Ii" road sign looks like a pause button: https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ii#/media/File:Roadsign_of_Ii_municipality_Finland.jpg < 1442406124 615959 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: not that i know of < 1442406157 729600 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a place in Austria called Fucking < 1442406166 267270 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know. < 1442406179 870608 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a place in Australia called Sydney < 1442406219 935672 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What about Oberfucking and Unterfucking? < 1442406288 609711 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not remember < 1442406310 6924 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are apparently at least four places called Å < 1442406317 529400 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1442406326 452648 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tricky business < 1442406335 346258 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1442406345 114074 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :England has Shitterton < 1442406426 717076 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In 2010, the inhabitants banded together to purchase a 1.5-ton block of Purbeck Stone to place at the entrance to Shitterton, carved with the hamlet's name." That's one solution to having your sign stolen < 1442406440 852302 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? y < 1442406442 199431 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :y? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1442406477 634643 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Y is a commune in France. There's nothing funny about this. < 1442406480 134549 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'y': Y is a commune in France. There's nothing funny about this. < 1442406497 492361 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also a Y in Alaska < 1442406513 523348 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :curses < 1442406586 936947 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn L is far too short to be a village in Wales. < 1442406587 758168 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ncurses < 1442406589 90252 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'l': L is far too short to be a village in Wales. < 1442406595 414785 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits l < 1442406596 732931 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1442406600 201476 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canada has London < 1442406603 312985 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/l < 1442406604 968745 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1442406610 392004 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1442406611 874238 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits . < 1442406614 527359 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan oerjan fizzie fizzie fizzie oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan oerjan hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] oren_ hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] oren_ hppavilion[1] oren_ hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] Phantom__Hoover hppavilion[1] oerjan tswett tswett tswett oerjan tswett tswett tswett tswett oerjan b_jonas < 1442406619 494457 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops < 1442406633 726284 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that _might_ be incomplete hth < 1442406647 388210 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits / < 1442406648 231011 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :abort: / not under root < 1442406912 139112 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"root not under root", when read aloud. < 1442406952 510196 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdome < 1442406953 293015 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The place where all of HackBot's wisdom is stored and forced to fight to the death for the freedom of being printed out when you type `wisdom < 1442406966 426712 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1442406970 273171 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/The/The Wisdome is the/' wisdom/wisdome < 1442406972 24430 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1442406974 959495 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdome < 1442406975 841526 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Wisdome is the place where all of HackBot's wisdom is stored and forced to fight to the death for the freedom of being printed out when you type `wisdom < 1442407009 977657 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/./' wisdom/wisdome < 1442407011 961508 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1442407059 385528 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the kind of inattention to detail that leads to all software being crap hth < 1442407270 837588 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Now I'm tempted to write a HackBot fanfic about the Wisdome <-- someone has even more too much free time than i do < 1442407381 662000 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s / root < 1442407384 129273 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1442407391 242235 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls root < 1442407392 41300 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ dev \ etc \ hackenv \ home \ lib \ lib64 \ opt \ proc \ sbin \ sys \ tmp \ usr < 1442407398 178068 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1442407402 972334 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily and here I was thinking that int-e was oerjan's good twin. or at least the less evil one. <-- i'm just so evil i need two good twins hth < 1442407403 169577 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1442407414 373456 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems that message is just specific to culprits < 1442407416 191780 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls / < 1442407416 811235 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ dev \ etc \ hackenv \ home \ lib \ lib64 \ opt \ proc \ sbin \ sys \ tmp \ usr < 1442407421 162526 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm root < 1442407422 690536 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1442407434 666351 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: i think it's a message from hg < 1442407442 805668 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits < 1442407443 425943 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed "$1" | grep summary: | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs < 1442407453 714302 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log / < 1442407454 584309 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :abort: / not under root < 1442407683 293071 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:101:2cc0:3928:79a7:bbc7:cc19 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1442407767 123445 :bender|!~benderx2@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1442407798 65530 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:101:2cc0:3564:4234:89a9:b8c2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442408099 697452 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Loader14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44227&oldid=44212 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+1) 10 < 1442408565 185351 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:101:2cc0:3564:4234:89a9:b8c2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1442408647 99231 :bender|!~benderx2@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442408649 400477 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1442409396 80538 :mauris!~mauris@2601:58a:101:2cc0:3564:4234:89a9:b8c2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442409725 990327 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1442410473 362202 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-76-149.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1442410978 989441 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1442411601 349301 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-76-149.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1442411702 197088 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1442412023 268865 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-76-149.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1442412199 91130 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1442412932 128455 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1442413166 356460 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-108-6.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1442414388 878971 :aretecode!~aretecode@50.23.131.206-static.reverse.softlayer.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1442414571 823350 :aretecode!~aretecode@69.4.235.219 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442414844 351592 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-108-6.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1442414923 772259 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1442414923 950840 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1442414930 714508 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1442415005 272136 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-96-154.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1442415192 428557 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1442415984 389321 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1442416049 528815 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1442416172 58220 :Spiritualcreativ!~vero@156.46.69.86.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1442416499 278002 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-36-0.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1442416642 353713 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-96-154.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1442416644 878092 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-36-0.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1442416675 685358 :Spiritualcreativ!~vero@156.46.69.86.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who speak french ? < 1442416707 941609 :Spiritualcreativ!~vero@156.46.69.86.rev.sfr.net PART :#esoteric < 1442417800 846970 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bonjour < 1442417801 391874 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bonjour: not found < 1442417814 497118 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-233-195.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1442417833 763867 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenu < 1442417834 283914 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bienvenu: not found < 1442417913 297960 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-36-0.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1442417914 275472 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-233-195.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1442418117 206388 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`benvenu < 1442418117 872329 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: benvenu: not found < 1442418123 814931 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1442418152 181230 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1442418264 168252 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/*nv* < 1442418264 975551 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/arienvenido \ bin/benvenuto \ bin/bienvenido < 1442418275 482229 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of those look very french < 1442418302 314405 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -R venu wisdom < 1442418303 222000 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/bienvenue:Bienvenue au centre international pour le design et le déploiement des langages de programmation ésotériques! Pour plus d’informations, visitez le wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Pour l’autre type d'ésotérisme, essayez #esoteric sur irc.dal.net.) \ Binary file wisdom/reflection matches < 1442418308 687361 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah there it is < 1442418329 120772 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom.fr < 1442418329 796471 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom.fr? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1442418343 545542 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv wisdom/{bienvenue,wisdom.fr} < 1442418345 693222 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1442418394 589390 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome < 1442418395 422129 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1442418427 375482 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1442418431 983317 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.fr < 1442418432 658918 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome.fr? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1442418456 743286 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv wisdom/{wisdom,welcome}.fr < 1442418458 548212 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1442418466 691196 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/irc.dal.net/EFnet ou DALnet/' wisdom/welcome.fr < 1442418468 266522 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1442418472 974449 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.fr < 1442418473 749896 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bienvenue au centre international pour le design et le déploiement des langages de programmation ésotériques! Pour plus d’informations, visitez le wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Pour l’autre type d'ésotérisme, essayez #esoteric sur EFnet ou DALnet.) < 1442418481 173585 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/welcome < 1442418481 875722 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl -w \ if (defined($_=shift)) { s/ *$//; s/ +/ @ /g; exec "bin/@", $_ . " ? welcome"; } else { exec "bin/?", "welcome"; } < 1442418500 238390 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/bienvenido < 1442418500 844575 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl -w \ if (defined($_=shift)) { s/ *$//; s/ +/ @ /g; exec "bin/@", $_ . " ? welcome.es"; } else { exec "bin/?", "welcome.es"; } < 1442418557 641753 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cp bin/{bienvenido,bienvenue}; sed -i 's/\.es/.fr/g' bin/bienvenue < 1442418561 741798 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1442418573 771708 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenue Jafet < 1442418574 724175 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Bienvenue au centre international pour le design et le déploiement des langages de programmation ésotériques! Pour plus d’informations, visitez le wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Pour l’autre type d'ésotérisme, essayez #esoteric sur EFnet ou DALnet.) < 1442418796 540147 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ggbxmueaoevvmgcy QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1442419498 226000 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-205-39.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1442419663 631830 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-233-195.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1442419671 263063 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 QUIT :Quit: Au revoir < 1442419672 597799 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-205-39.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi NICK :J_Arcane < 1442419725 894117 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1442419746 493137 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@c83-253-251-164.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1442419746 671563 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@c83-253-251-164.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Changing host < 1442419746 671596 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1442420225 932811 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1442420361 582713 :sc00fy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1442420610 601461 :sc00fy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1442420766 74109 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1442420845 122017 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1442421144 48430 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-205-39.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1442421246 402972 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-109-13.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1442421734 950867 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1442421816 371505 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-109-13.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1442421823 357924 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1442421994 908840 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1442422505 693327 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-87.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1442422582 941512 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442422746 77702 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1442423161 406568 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1442423312 587338 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-64-199.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1442423397 11013 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442423407 270029 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:2c40:400::1:6e46 QUIT :Client Quit < 1442423993 353704 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1442425278 940171 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hexagony14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=44228 5* 03Martin Büttner 5* (+11013) 10Created page with "'''Hexagony''' is a two-dimensional stack-based programming language developed by [[user:Martin Büttner]]. To the best of the author's knowledge it's the first ever 2D langua..." < 1442425302 33965 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44229&oldid=44196 5* 03Martin Büttner 5* (+15) 10/* H */ < 1442425487 116915 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Martin Büttner14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44230&oldid=43937 5* 03Martin Büttner 5* (+387) 10add Hexagony and Marbelous < 1442425618 290199 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1442427060 332935 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Hexagony14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=44231 5* 03Ais523 5* (+595) 10related esolang < 1442429285 575905 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1442429624 807611 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bender|: Hi! < 1442429702 19110 :adu!~ajr@static-108-48-76-162.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1442429875 993395 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1442431048 881629 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBS < 1442431060 575238 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-72.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1442431447 468266 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1442431835 614503 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442431959 146512 :x10A94!~x10A94@178.252.73.97 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1442432076 403269 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1442432126 69518 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1442433910 64703 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1442435209 389940 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Quit: Alas. < 1442435234 339201 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1442435463 431640 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1442435579 133503 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1442435964 413669 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1442436134 76698 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1442436662 577131 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1442436895 179299 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, IRC! < 1442436903 165624 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bender|: *Sigh* < 1442437149 868646 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1442437283 622435 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. < 1442437301 688537 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 is /legally allowed/ to leave the channel!? < 1442437303 160744 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa! < 1442437362 637251 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make a useful Thue derivative < 1442437481 90637 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bad idea < 1442437568 674699 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], ais leaves quite often... < 1442437577 295489 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I was kidding < 1442437598 913877 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Isn't that, with "So do it" appended, the Esolangs motto? < 1442437626 765796 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no, I mean it's a boring, unesoteric idea < 1442437664 434300 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Useful =/= nesoteric < 1442437684 119687 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], do you mean adding system stuff like file handling to it < 1442437688 242972 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/nes/unes/ < 1442437694 218599 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Exactly < 1442437695 569180 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1442437698 906985 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And cleaning up the grammar a bit < 1442437723 699308 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need delimeters on strings, people. < 1442437737 212514 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could be interesting but you should try to make it really fit into the language < 1442437751 139635 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :a::=~"Hello, World!" < 1442437751 317313 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :::= < 1442437751 317390 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1442437773 985360 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And libraries, of course < 1442437776 368971 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't go the lazy way and make it a wrapper on the output or a couple of special patterns < 1442437789 460716 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what? < 1442437891 988339 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ? < 1442437898 859615 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, how to describe it... < 1442437927 509954 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if you did your file i/o just by writing "open(whatever)" to stdout < 1442437986 694305 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I /was/ considering making CATFILE work like: < 1442438020 743611 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :walrus < 1442438024 692570 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :walrus < 1442438024 915038 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :walrus < 1442438026 224257 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1442438032 673201 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got a newline on my clipboard < 1442438084 8995 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ::= ~"Hello, world!" < 1442438084 226129 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :::= < 1442438084 226191 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :readf("a.txt") #a.txt contains the letter "a" < 1442438099 592186 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Is that not esoteric enough? < 1442438198 193488 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps the ^ operator that behaves like :::? < 1442438224 642668 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really mind that at first glance < 1442438225 125859 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1442438225 775253 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ::= ~^"Hello.txt" < 1442438225 955758 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :::= < 1442438226 134704 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1442438233 810333 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1442438237 553651 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that one < 1442438253 695978 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :function notation is a bit alien to thue though so the second one is probably better < 1442438261 488099 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ype < 1442438264 117433 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Yep < 1442438270 175894 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's go with the second one < 1442438280 918444 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should I call this language? < 1442438335 304206 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1442438345 437898 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tue? (pronounced like "two"?) ( Phantom_Hoover ) < 1442438356 989653 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tube < 1442438363 223637 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pronounced two-B < 1442438388 835077 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thube? < 1442438479 571168 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Thube14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=44232 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+224) 10Created Page < 1442438531 44135 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm calling it Thube for now < 1442438536 642508 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1442438579 174853 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Internet crash? < 1442438588 808316 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :evidently < 1442438620 754784 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sux < 1442438628 408210 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1442438632 969042 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've named the language Thube for now and added it to a wiki page < 1442438637 908190 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, to add real content to that page < 1442438771 456165 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Thube14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44233&oldid=44232 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+106) 10Goals < 1442438832 84672 :S1!~S1FeHa@p4FF93F9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1442438905 745916 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], i think you should try to address the criticisms of thue here while you're at it: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Thue#Criticisms < 1442438968 683067 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha wow it's impossible* to write a cat program in thue < 1442439004 185263 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :*you can do it by transforming every character to its output but that's awful < 1442439093 610014 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1442439124 528986 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1442439354 405537 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do think thue would benefit if you could add new rules at runtime < 1442439378 930562 :S1!~S1FeHa@p4FF93F9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: We are the revolutionaries < 1442439446 579771 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: that is the first time I've ever seen an IRC message with an actual, planned in advance, footnote < 1442439485 191242 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started doing that the other day < 1442439492 362606 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's great, way easier than brackets < 1442439497 377686 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a good practise. Keep it up. < 1442439506 157776 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :practice, taneb < 1442439507 293964 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :practice < 1442439516 988493 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget which is the noun and which is the verb < 1442439557 783435 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nouns have a c, verbs have an s < 1442439561 151496 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1442439573 186935 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the subject of things I forget sometimes, I'm going to go to sleep now < 1442439575 935440 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight < 1442439584 257175 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit man i was going to explain the mnemonic < 1442439586 132128 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :english is so ugly < 1442439607 325537 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: @tell me it or something < 1442439647 978305 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :using @tell would be degrading to my craft < 1442439748 655915 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: most cat variants (e.g. output in reverse) are probably impossible to do reliably in Thue because you can mimic whatever strings it uses for internal data storage < 1442439750 79562 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhinito < 1442439753 394022 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the hell would you actually do that? < 1442439780 487092 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, practise/practice < 1442439785 151537 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell < 1442439877 906505 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1442439948 979090 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, say 'advice', then 'advise' < 1442439965 693419 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure practice and practise had the same distinction but drifted together < 1442440054 946794 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still ugly < 1442440083 815446 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like when you read old verse and you can see the aftermath of the great vowel shift because half the rhymes no longer work < 1442440148 608619 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1442441169 153628 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1442441210 572817 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1442441309 442728 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1442441327 881244 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bender|: bender| bender| bender| bender| < 1442441548 28331 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1442441598 812925 :guido__!~guido@net-2-32-164-149.cust.dsl.teletu.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1442441600 771355 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1442441725 310143 :randy-!~randy--@net-2-32-164-149.cust.dsl.teletu.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1442441747 812688 :guido__!~guido@net-2-32-164-149.cust.dsl.teletu.it QUIT :Client Quit < 1442442435 792068 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1442442822 137060 :randy-!~randy--@net-2-32-164-149.cust.dsl.teletu.it QUIT :Quit: Sto andando via < 1442443356 612168 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@74-114-87-76.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1442443906 11845 :shikhinito!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1442444150 404096 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hallooooooooo < 1442444394 398049 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1442444422 215490 :oren_!~oren@65.94.102.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hippavilion1! < 1442444661 624330 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1442446680 22361 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1442446754 797569 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Monkeys14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44234&oldid=40966 5* 03David.werecat 5* (+110) 10Updated interpreter to new open source C interpreter < 1442446980 662921 :jose1!~vit@186-95-176-105.genericrev.cantv.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1442447112 170449 :jose1!~vit@186-95-176-105.genericrev.cantv.net PART :#esoteric < 1442447412 391917 :hppavilion[1]!~Lordofthe@3-42-174-206.static.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1442447472 529226 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monkeys looks like a nica language < 1442447806 300654 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric