00:08:12 -!- mauris has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 00:25:54 -!- chikhin has changed nick to heddwch. 00:44:17 Someone should generalize Ackerman to the complex numbers 00:45:28 -!- sc00fy has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 00:50:23 *Ahem* 00:57:39 -!- atrapado has quit (Quit: Leaving). 01:01:46 * oerjan wonders if Ackerman grows too fast to be analytic 01:02:18 also it's Ackermann 01:06:39 isn't that function defined in N^2 ? 01:06:55 details 01:07:55 hm uniform convergence on compact sets, i think that implies a function defined on just naturals cannot grow too fast to be analytic 01:08:33 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 01:12:31 ok they can grow arbitrarily fast https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entire_function#Growth 01:12:49 -!- mihow has quit (Quit: mihow). 01:19:46 I found a very cool paper in "lisp and symbolic programming". It is about how several partial descriptions of a function can be automatically combined to synthesize it. http://cs.au.dk/~hosc/local/LaSC-3-1-pp21-37.pdf 01:24:55 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:31:29 oh god that's unreadable 01:34:35 it is? why? 01:35:03 did you print it? 01:35:13 i didn't, i'm reading it on a computer 01:35:19 no, just read it as a pdf on my computer 01:37:09 -!- zzo38 has quit (Quit: zzo38). 01:39:22 http://www.cs.umd.edu/~saurabhs/pubs/popl10-synthesis.pdf 01:41:28 lets see if I can find a different copy 01:42:01 no it's fine 01:44:35 The Google search cache happens to have a PDF renderer 01:46:26 http://www.google.com/search?q=relative+specification+and+transformational+reuse+of+functional 01:48:49 digging around I see that the authors are haskell people 01:59:10 Taneb: you're wondering if there's a way to combine neural networks and Markov chains? Sure—do the same sort of thing that Karpathy's char-rnn program does, but have an additional input which is the Markov chain prediction of the next letter. 01:59:20 Actually, I like that idea. 02:02:03 I want to challenge a CS student to implement Ackermann as a set of For Loops 02:02:21 Not telling them, of course, that it's , which, AFAICT, means that you can't do that 02:03:16 of course you can do that if you set a max value for both parameters 02:03:50 and 02:04:17 well whatever <.< 02:04:29 Doesn't ackermann call itself calling iself? 02:04:33 Non-primitive-recursive. 02:04:46 And yeah, the usual definition of the Ackermann function is recursive. 02:04:51 Like, isn't the base case A(m, A(m-1, n-1))? 02:05:41 I'm going to build a Command Block Computer in MC 02:05:49 (It's been done before, but I don't care) 02:07:26 Or should I do it in Plain Old Redstone? 02:20:27 Command Blocks it is 02:21:15 Making an interpreter in Javascript and I'm wondering how to convert a variable name to an index. 02:21:43 interpreting what? 02:22:04 Codesine. 02:22:11 Where's the code? 02:22:14 I'm pretty much making the language as I go. 02:22:53 So I want to make my MC processor a "bit" esoteric. What should I model it after? 02:22:57 I mean, the base case is A(0,0) or something. 02:23:06 hppavilion[1]: probably subleq. 02:23:15 Assuming you can do arithmetic. 02:23:25 If you can't do arithmetic, then... lemme think a few moments. 02:23:42 tswett: I can, as a matter of fact, do arithmetic due to the /scoreboard player operation command 02:24:10 Right now the code is on my computer. 02:24:21 I could do something fungey 02:24:36 Subleq would be pretty nice. 02:24:41 Or RSSB. Good ol' RSSB. 02:25:15 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_instruction_set_computer#Reverse_subtract_and_skip_if_borrow 02:25:44 OISC is boring 02:25:51 RISC is cool, though 02:26:00 I want to do something entirely unconventional, though 02:26:10 Perhaps forgoing the concept of regiestries and a stack entirely 02:26:38 Queue machine? 02:26:59 I could do a queue machine 02:27:15 But that's still normal-ish 02:28:13 I think I want something fungy 02:28:53 A funge could operate on a queue instead of stacks. 02:29:53 Maybe a priority queue. 02:30:02 Now we're getting somewhere 02:30:15 I could do something fungey and treey 02:30:23 I have a few things I can do: 02:30:29 * Manipulate entity properties 02:30:33 (velocities, etc) 02:30:44 * Set and retrieve scores 02:31:00 * Execute commands relative to entities 02:32:51 I give up 02:32:57 On listing all the shit I could do 02:40:29 "Remove from heat and boil to cool." 02:40:32 Yeah, good luck with that. 02:40:42 -!- XorSwap has joined. 02:47:04 -!- rodgort has quit (K-Lined). 02:54:00 -!- rodgort has joined. 02:58:39 In this paper, we describe the problem and the effect of eta-redexes in terms of monovariant binding-time propagation: eta-redexes preserve the static data flow of a source program by interfacing static higher-order values in dynamic contexts and dynamic higher-order values in static contexts. 03:00:54 Where should I put up code for people to comment on it? 03:01:00 -!- MDream has changed nick to MDude. 03:01:06 The wiki? 03:10:34 programming languages that feature higher-order facilities--first-class functions and continuations, effects and higher-order types, ob-jects, and actors. Such languages include Lisp, Scheme, ML, Haskell, Java and Dylan. 03:17:17 [wiki] [[Codesine/implementation]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=44357 * MDude * (+1864) Created page with "So far I have this running along with html that's just an input box with the ID read and a button to call EVAL(). I'm wondering if I should bother trying to implement named va..." 03:18:47 Feel free to leave comment son the talk page, I'll go to bed for now. 03:18:53 -!- MDude has changed nick to MDream. 03:20:24 Is ais523 around? 03:25:07 -!- zzo38 has joined. 03:33:54 -!- doesthiswork1 has joined. 03:33:54 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:34:41 -!- XorSwap has quit (Quit: Leaving). 03:59:09 <\oren\> @tell b_jonas I just updated the page again. I've added about 30 more chinese charatcers 03:59:09 Consider it noted. 04:12:50 -!- SirCmpwn has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 04:17:34 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 04:18:34 -!- SirCmpwn has joined. 04:18:51 -!- FreeFull has joined. 04:53:51 Have you ever heard of a chess variant called "Emperor Wars"? I believe I may have the only copy of the rules, and I have lost it. I do not know who wrote it either, or how I got it, but I can remember a few things about it. 04:55:13 Plebians are normally neutral pieces but when other pieces are adjacent they are owned by whoever own those other pieces; another piece is "Vestal Virgin" which move like queens does in chess but cannot capture anything nor can any adjacent piece capture anything. 04:58:52 I wrote a back story of a Dungeons&Dragons character I made it inspired by such true event too; it says: he made up a three-dimensional chess variant where some pieces can fly and some pieces can swim and some pieces normal movement, and he only made two copies, one was given away and one was lost, and no information can be found in library. So, this is kind of similar but also many difference 04:59:17 Such as, Emperor Wars is not three-dimensional game and I did not make it up by myself 05:00:17 Next time I find it (if I ever do) then I will put it into the computer. 05:05:17 [wiki] [[Stream]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44358&oldid=43681 * Oerjan * (+41) some proofreading 05:10:06 [wiki] [[LOLCODE]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44359&oldid=43642 * Oerjan * (+101) Undo revision 43600 by [[Special:Contributions/70.185.102.142|70.185.102.142]] ([[User talk:70.185.102.142|talk]]) (It's in the spec.) 05:14:00 [wiki] [[LOLCODE]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44360&oldid=44359 * Oerjan * (+0) /* Criticism */ case 05:17:20 [wiki] [[Esolang talk:Rules]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44361&oldid=43614 * Oerjan * (+96) unsigned 05:18:33 [wiki] [[Esoteric data structure]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44362&oldid=43604 * Oerjan * (+0) case 05:21:33 [wiki] [[Talk:O]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44363&oldid=43609 * Oerjan * (+47) It's not signed without a date hth 05:28:41 [wiki] [[Weirdlang]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44364&oldid=43651 * Oerjan * (-28) Removing Title Case but leaving Ironic Case. Also a bit proofreading. 05:29:30 [wiki] [[Weirdlang]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44365&oldid=44364 * Oerjan * (+0) missed one 05:30:32 [wiki] [[Weirdlang]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44366&oldid=44365 * Oerjan * (+4) erring in opposite direction, also link 05:39:25 [wiki] [[Esolang talk:Policy]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44367&oldid=43615 * Oerjan * (+213) unsigned, response 05:44:19 [wiki] [[Talk:Folder]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44368&oldid=44097 * Oerjan * (+50) unsigned 06:06:16 [wiki] [[Magicard!]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44369&oldid=43630 * Oerjan * (+4) /* Data Organization */ link 06:06:44 -!- doesthiswork1 has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 06:08:58 [wiki] [[Abstract machine]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44370&oldid=43632 * Oerjan * (+0) case 06:10:04 (+7/-7) would be much more informative than (+0) 06:10:28 @messages 06:12:56 -!- Frooxius has joined. 06:14:13 \oren\: that's much more than 30, but ok 06:15:17 \oren\: indeed, more numbers and other characters 06:16:17 (+/-7) 06:16:20 <\oren\> I'm not good with the counting and shit 06:16:45 <\oren\> maybe it was 60? wvr 06:18:43 [wiki] [[Disney queue]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44371&oldid=43637 * Oerjan * (+0) case 06:19:17 you'll have to find someone who can proofread these, and the rest of the font. I gave up way back, after the Welsh characters. 06:19:50 <\oren\> Yeah. 06:20:45 I wouldn't be able to tell if any of these is the wrong character for the code place or is drawn wrong, and that applies to most of the font. 06:23:10 <\oren\> Well I'm trying to decrease the likelihood of those for the kanji by only drawing kanji which I actually know the meaning of. 06:23:11 [wiki] [[Generic Brainfuck Derivative]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44372&oldid=43639 * Oerjan * (+4) link, case 06:23:56 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 06:28:38 -!- bakatotest has joined. 06:29:58 \oren\: wait, I list a character. didn't you have 門 somewhere? I guess I just imagined that 06:30:03 s/list/lost/ 06:30:52 \help 06:31:59 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 06:33:18 `wälcåme bakatotest 06:33:19 /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: wälcåme: not found 06:33:29 you DELETED it? 06:33:35 `blame bin/wälcåme 06:33:36 /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: blame: not found 06:33:43 hello 06:34:29 um 06:34:35 where's blame? 06:34:59 anyway, 06:35:04 `welcome bakatotest 06:35:05 bakatotest: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) 06:35:25 `` welcome b_jonas | en2sv 06:35:26 b_jånas: Wälcåme to the internatiånal hub for esotäric prågramming languagä däsign and däplåymänt! Får morä infårmatiån, chäck åut åur wiki: . (Får thä åthär kind åf äsåtärica, try #äsotäric ån ÄFnät år DALnät.) 06:35:34 ok 06:36:52 b_jonas: no one deleted it. i suggest not spelling commands in ways you cannot remember hth 06:37:23 oerjan: what? how else would it be spelled? 06:37:27 oh 06:37:47 `wälcåmä bakatotest 06:37:49 bakatåtäst: Welcåme tå thä intärnatiånal hub får esotäric programming languagä design and däplåyment! For mårä infårmatiån, chäck åut åur wiki: . (For thä åther kind åf esotärica, try #esotäric on EFnet or DALnet.) 06:37:50 right 06:37:51 sorry 06:37:53 stupid English 06:37:58 with its silent letters 06:38:02 en2sv should remove those 06:38:55 also `blame is spelt `culprits hth 06:39:06 Very exciting exception indeed 06:39:15 reception* 06:39:41 surely not the best we can do. 06:39:52 `` WeLcOmE bakatotest | rainwords 06:39:53 BaKaToTeSt: WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: . (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On eFnEt oR DaLnEt.) 06:40:24 You would probably recognize me as the guy with an awful username who created SELECT. 06:40:27 argh my eyes 06:40:34 ooh 06:40:44 But that was a long time ago 06:42:25 en2sv should remove those <-- i think replacing them by "a" is the swedish way hth 06:43:11 -!- bender| has joined. 06:44:21 it's so long ago that the page history has split in two 06:46:49 -!- mauris has joined. 06:51:03 “<\oren\> Well I'm trying to decrease the likelihood of those for the kanji by only drawing kanji which I actually know the meaning of.” => doesn't that contradict your previously stated goal of adding all 2000 jōyō kanji? 06:54:56 <\oren\> Well given my current rate of 50 kanji a day... 06:55:12 <\oren\> Eh. 06:55:30 You could always just learn all of the kanji before drawing them. 06:55:47 \oren\: oh by the way, do the fullwidth circle punctuation that is used as the digit zero in some contexts where kanji digits are used in Japanese vertical writing 06:56:04 <\oren\> Jafet: that's a good plan 06:57:12 \oren\: I think it's 〇 06:57:25 `unicode 〇 06:57:26 U+3007 IDEOGRAPHIC NUMBER ZERO \ UTF-8: e3 80 87 UTF-16BE: 3007 Decimal: 〇 \ 〇 \ Category: Nl (Number, Letter) \ Numeric value: 0 \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) 06:57:27 yes, that might work if you're dedicated 06:58:18 it's used when writing numbers with multiple digits as each digit in kanji in a vertical label, because hindu-arabic numerals would look wrong in a vertical Japanese text 06:58:26 but it's a punctuation used in Chinese too 06:58:31 for similar things 06:59:12 it's sort of weird because it really isn't a kanji, but is used as one, so I call it punctuation 06:59:38 <\oren\> it's in the cjk punctuation block 07:02:05 <\oren\> So yeah I'mma upload a new file each time I reach 50 07:02:21 <\oren\> 町画白的目相矢石知私穴立竹米糸缶羊羽而虫耳肉花血行言西見谷豆足赤車里釆長金門雨雪雷電馬魚骨鳥黒黄皿〇 07:02:34 you see that character a lot as a tourist because many prices end in two zeros 07:03:12 <\oren\> it occurs in scores in Touhou 07:05:31 <\oren\> what do you use to learn japanese 07:05:37 ? 07:07:23 there aren't many japanese courses here in Brazil 07:07:49 <\oren\> bakatotest: These days I read Japanese newspapers and manga. 07:08:28 \oren\: is that a list of Kanjis with at least one square or circle? 07:08:31 rectangle, I meant 07:08:46 hmm, no, nevermind 07:08:52 some clearly doesn't 07:09:18 <\oren\> no, it's a list of the kanji I jsut added to my font 07:09:30 font? are you making a font? 07:09:45 interesting 07:09:46 <\oren\> http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm 07:10:13 oh what. 07:10:19 that's really crazy 07:10:54 <\oren\> I hand drew more than 4000 charatcers 07:11:23 <\oren\> most are variants of base charatcers but still 07:11:55 <\oren\> the green ones are newer than the white ones 07:12:01 it will be gradually harder when you draw more complex letters 07:12:29 <\oren\> yup 07:12:55 for Hanguls, there are well-known compositional approaches (e.g. 8-4-8 composition etc.) 07:13:53 <\oren\> I have 4702 characters in total so far 07:18:41 <\oren\> eventually this will be the perfect font for crazy programmmers who want to name variables random unicode things 07:19:19 <\oren\> My dad once used i, iota, and double dot i in a paper but I think he was deliberately trolling 07:26:09 i is just the derivative of ı. 07:26:22 <\oren\> heh 07:26:40 <\oren\> physiscs derivatives 07:28:40 <\oren\> my font does have ẊẋẌẍ 07:29:24 <\oren\> which i doubt are used for anything outside physics 07:30:43 someone's username 07:30:59 \oren\: Maybe certain languages. 07:31:21 ẊẋẌẍ_BAKA_TEST_ẍẌẋẊ 07:31:41 <\oren\> lol 07:35:11 most characters are really useless anyways. 07:35:22 "#" - what is this stuff even for? 07:35:41 twitter 07:37:47 like @ is for email 07:37:56 and > for 4chan 07:40:07 What is # called 07:40:15 sharp 07:40:18 in music 07:40:52 hashtag, number (as in "you're my #1") 07:42:37 -!- sc00fy has joined. 07:42:38 the wiki says it's "number sign" or "hash key" 07:44:12 not too much an esoteric topic, though 07:51:34 anybody on? 07:53:14 seems empty 07:53:22 I wonder... 07:53:36 If a tree falls down and there's no one there to hear 07:53:40 does it make a sound? 07:57:00 Doesn't matter, everybody's gonna see the log! 07:57:27 i can't hear text too well 07:57:54 especially when its encoded in binary moving across thousands of miles of cords 07:58:09 Congratz my friend, 07:58:24 you destroyed my philosophical inquiry about existence 07:58:28 and if i tried to listen to it through the wifi, i still wouldn't hear it, because A the freq is too high, and B, there would be loads of other info streaming 07:59:21 And C - Your ears do not detect electromagnetic waves 07:59:32 that was A 07:59:48 No, it wasnt 08:00:09 -!- sc00fy has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 08:00:45 oh boy 08:01:05 no matter how high or low the frequency of the electromagnetic waves, they would not be able to move your inner ear organs 08:01:22 because they are not mechanical 08:01:23 its very hard to argue with people who dont understand that Em waves are indeed vibratory in nature 08:01:54 a vibratory wave that propagates in a vacuum 08:01:57 how delightful 08:02:30 can you tell me how do you make "nothing" vibrate? 08:02:36 ' light as a wave 08:02:55 hmm that didnt work so well 08:03:03 lol 08:03:13 irony is not your best 08:03:23 You don't make "nothing" to vibrate you can vibrate electromagnetic fields, I think 08:03:41 httop://lmgtfy.com/q?=light%20wave%20property 08:03:52 Now that's an answer that makes sense 08:04:28 i'll let you research ti for a bit and get back to me 08:04:40 it 08:04:48 and in the meantime i'll work on my typing 08:05:40 sorry, but this page doesn't exist 08:05:57 And sound waves can vibrate the air instead. 08:06:01 remove the o from teh http and try again 08:06:02 lol 08:06:10 I don't even know what URI scheme is "httop:" 08:06:28 im leaning across my desk with arms extended typing 08:06:35 at an angle to boot 08:06:39 not very comfortable 08:06:47 not condusive to spelling eitgher 08:07:17 I can see 08:08:29 -!- JesseH has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:10:31 But got to go before I can explain you how 08:10:44 ;) 08:11:16 how sound waves are too weak to propogate through certain mediums, but Em waves can even propogate through a vaccuum? 08:11:53 The classical or the quantum explanation? 08:12:01 seriouly, bye 08:12:07 seriouslt 08:12:14 seriously* 08:12:40 much bias, no research, such assumption. wow 08:13:03 doge is impressed 08:13:31 I will be watching for the log tomorrow 08:13:43 like i said, hard to argue.. causes much cognative dissonance 08:13:46 say whatever you want 08:13:55 cognative, sure 08:13:57 bye 08:14:09 lol, im done have a great night 08:14:17 -!- bakatotest has quit (Quit: Page closed). 08:20:03 Bing bong 08:53:36 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 09:00:26 -!- heddwch has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:00:28 -!- FireFly has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:01:00 -!- heddwch has joined. 09:04:53 -!- FireFly has joined. 09:20:18 -!- JesseH has joined. 09:27:49 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 10:34:50 -!- boily has joined. 11:27:59 -!- bakatotest has joined. 11:30:43 -!- boily has quit (Quit: QUALITY CHICKEN). 11:30:56 what rolls down stairs, and over in pairs, and over your neighbors dog 11:34:42 blurelIse: boulders? 11:35:04 log 11:35:07 log 11:35:10 log 11:35:38 Ise, you are making no sense 11:35:51 this is giving me "cognative" dissonance 11:36:12 im sure you could find a good ren and stimpy video that will ease all your suffereing 11:36:49 not a big fan of cartoon 11:37:31 ok, well they had a spoof commercial, for a toy called log, to the tune of the slinky commercial 11:38:09 * int-e wonders what the little guys are planning in Monday's Girl Genius comic 11:39:06 those were the lyrics 11:39:08 the end 11:41:11 -!- gniourf has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:41:40 kind of remembers me that song from ed edd and eddy 11:41:54 where the guy has a friend which is a plank 11:42:28 i think it's called... 11:42:33 My Friend Planck 11:43:09 -!- FreeFull has quit (Quit: BBS). 11:44:08 -!- gniourf has joined. 11:45:11 never liked that cartoon 11:48:03 my question: what is the inharmonic sound naturally observed in geared device? 11:48:34 the? 11:48:48 CogNative Dissonance 11:48:55 or do you speak of general resonance 11:49:20 oh haha 11:49:26 thats punny 11:49:47 really, if you look closely, the "a" and "i" are pretty far apart 11:50:03 no way this could be a typo 11:50:13 almost as good as the question: why wont democrats ever go to mars? 11:51:02 because its a red planet 11:51:11 *drum hit* 11:52:18 Unless xkcd 1530 11:53:02 are you kinda bummed about the double slit being solved? 11:53:33 It is not a problem, though 11:53:55 unless you are close-minded 11:54:23 lemme rephrase 11:54:47 are you kinda bummed they figured it out in a slightly different manner than was originally theorized? 11:55:21 how can you expect me to deduce what you mean from such a vague question 11:55:52 oh.. well i guess i assumed you had heard the news about it 11:56:18 Sure, the most important experiments turn out different than expected 11:56:28 otherwise how could science advance? 11:56:38 nope 11:57:05 its been chalked up to simple wave particle duality 11:57:07 haven't reached Brazil yet, here we don't even have computers 11:57:17 I'm typing this from my Iphone 6 11:58:01 hmm 11:58:13 i was a little bummed, i really liked the quantum implications 11:58:55 so there is no "particle crossing both slits simultaneously to interfere with itself"? 12:00:23 im sure theoretically and possibly probability wise thats still sound 12:00:37 just cant use the good ol double slit as evidence anymore 12:00:41 *tear* 12:00:56 oh, so it's a practical issue 12:01:18 afaik the math for foresaid is still there 12:02:57 Anyways, GR >> QM 12:03:27 i got a big problem with GR 12:03:36 recently aquired 12:03:55 *acquired 12:04:06 im really disliking this whole heavy stuff on a blanket model 12:04:56 oops, gtg 12:05:12 pz 12:05:22 *sudden disappearance* 12:05:34 ** *suddenly disappears* 12:05:52 -!- bakatotest has quit (Quit: Page closed). 12:06:54 thats secret code for "iphones dont have an irc app that has a background keepalive connection and the moment I move to another app I will disconnect" 12:08:06 -!- bakatotest has joined. 12:08:27 but apparently not for long 12:09:58 how was your safari? 12:10:19 -!- bakatotest_ has joined. 12:10:24 to circumvent this fact 12:10:32 I have many Iphones 12:11:18 and log in simultaneously 12:11:37 In fact, two for each chat room 12:11:56 *iPhones 12:12:14 seems like an expensive venture for an irc dedicated device 12:14:00 i value my irc-exploring apparatus 12:14:18 apparati* 12:14:22 :) 12:14:24 Nope 12:14:29 http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/147989/what-is-the-proper-plural-form-of-apparatus 12:14:53 Ha! Got ya 12:15:18 * blurelIse pats you on the head, saying: there they're their, it'll be ok 12:17:49 somewhere theiyres a joke in that 12:18:08 alas, i must get back to work 12:18:11 funny thing 12:18:23 i slept too much and lost two classes 12:18:35 now im in the studying room waiting for the alarm 12:18:36 bbl 12:18:42 whose fault do you think this is? 12:20:27 (I hope you did get my irony, though) 12:20:54 Because you are such an insistent fella 12:23:20 ok, not funny 12:23:23 at all 12:25:17 good bye and ignore what I just said 12:27:26 -!- bakatotest_ has quit (Quit: Page closed). 12:27:27 -!- bakatotest has quit (Quit: Page closed). 12:33:58 -!- bakatotest has joined. 12:34:28 who wants to talk about the art of puzzle solving? 12:36:26 So there was a man who went into a bar 12:39:02 asking for some water. The barman inspected him closely, then pointed him a gun. The man than thanked him and went out the bar happy. 12:41:30 how come? 12:45:47 -!- Patashu has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 12:46:43 fungot: help 12:46:43 int-e: i think this is used in the past?) because it is a 12:48:39 . o O ( help, I cannot completely understand puzzles ) 12:49:26 you can ask questions, like "was the man really thirsty", to help finding the answer 12:53:25 want a hint? 12:56:20 -!- bailey_m has joined. 12:57:57 * int-e idly wonders how old that particular lateral thinking puzzle is... several decades at least... 13:01:17 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 13:02:00 plot twist: The man was dead all along, and the barman was a medium who made he realize that 13:02:30 -!- `^_^v has joined. 13:11:43 An original puzzle: What do these words have in common? THE INANIMATE HAM WILL HAVE ALL MY WINE, YET NEITHER FILM PANS IN LINE 13:11:53 I gtg now 13:12:15 -!- bakatotest has quit (Quit: Page closed). 13:12:17 -!- bailey_m has quit (Quit: Page closed). 13:13:17 -!- bakatotest has joined. 13:14:32 * FELT A LINE 13:14:40 Not pans in line 13:14:53 -!- bakatotest has quit (Client Quit). 13:15:32 they all have wovels! 13:18:46 they are all part of the same sentence 13:22:14 -!- XorSwap has joined. 13:33:44 -!- JesseH has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 13:33:58 -!- XorSwap has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 13:34:10 -!- XorSwap has joined. 13:47:56 -!- XorSwap has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 13:48:12 -!- XorSwap has joined. 13:49:59 -!- XorSwap has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 13:50:12 -!- XorSwap has joined. 14:12:01 All of those words are made up entirely of straight lines. 14:18:19 `unidecode ẊẋẌ 14:18:20 [U+1E8A LATIN CAPITAL LETTER X WITH DOT ABOVE] [U+1E8B LATIN SMALL LETTER X WITH DOT ABOVE] [U+1E8C LATIN CAPITAL LETTER X WITH DIAERESIS] 14:22:15 Learning all the hiragana is easy. I've done it several times. 14:23:06 -!- XorSwap has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 14:31:36 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 14:34:57 -!- XorSwap has joined. 14:34:57 -!- XorSwap has quit (Client Quit). 14:53:52 [wiki] [[User:Orlando]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44373&oldid=43801 * Orlando * (-43) 15:00:10 -!- heddwch has changed nick to heddfwch. 15:08:07 -!- MDream has changed nick to MDude. 15:08:20 -!- heddfwch has changed nick to heddwch. 15:09:23 -!- aretecode has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 15:36:54 -!- adu has joined. 15:41:24 -!- FreeFull has joined. 15:41:48 -!- FreeFull has changed nick to Guest71070. 15:42:44 -!- Guest71070 has quit (Changing host). 15:42:44 -!- Guest71070 has joined. 15:43:31 -!- Guest71070 has changed nick to FreeFull. 16:07:14 -!- bender| has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 16:08:42 I'm tempted to apply for the Haskell Prime Committee 16:22:44 -!- sc00fy has joined. 16:27:26 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 16:37:58 You'd probably be better than certain candidates. 16:42:34 * shachaf is such a grouch. 16:46:28 Should I add some SIMD support to the TVM? 16:48:46 (That would add Parallel Processing/asynch instructions, such as (in high-level assembly): IN-PLACE IMMEDIATE ADD R[0..128] 5; , which takes advantage of multiple cores to increase all registries from 0 to 128 by 1 17:00:21 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 17:04:58 -!- atrapado has joined. 17:13:45 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 17:19:50 -!- sc00fy has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 17:24:46 How can you make quick-save/quick-restore with DOSBox? 17:28:46 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 17:32:28 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 17:37:50 -!- hppavilion[2] has joined. 17:39:37 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 17:39:43 -!- hppavilion[2] has changed nick to hppavilion[1]. 17:39:52 -!- Frooxius has quit (Quit: *bubbles away*). 17:50:23 zzo38: I don't recall dosbox being able to do that 18:00:33 -!- sc00fy has joined. 18:20:01 -!- hppavilion[2] has joined. 18:22:59 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 18:25:11 -!- hppavilion[2] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 18:25:12 -!- ais523 has joined. 18:25:20 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 18:31:03 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 18:32:12 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 18:43:04 Some MediaWiki sites (not only Wikipedia and their sister projects) do HTTPS only, but it is not a private message so I want to receive it in clear text so that MITM backup is possible. 18:44:15 And if it is a private email or something else that should be secure, there are much better ways than HTTPS to do it anyways. For one thing you should try to agree the keys in person if possible. 18:53:34 The internet would save a lot of energy if they did not have to insist on HTTPS. (They could save even more energy if they don't even use HTML and use plain text instead, but that cannot always be used; nevertheless sometimes it can work) 18:55:06 Would the Internet really save that much energy? 18:55:42 Only some constant multiple, presumably. 18:59:19 -!- Gril_Emo has joined. 18:59:36 holis :b 18:59:43 -!- Gril_Emo has left. 19:08:16 "On our production frontend machines, SSL/TLS accounts for less than 1% of the CPU load, less than 10 KB of memory per connection and less than 2% of network overhead." -Adam Langley, Google. 19:10:04 I remember there being some discussion/speculation on how much electricity would be saved if Google switched to a black background. 19:10:52 It's not as if Google cares about being extremely efficient there. 19:10:52 Well, that can be the client setting, if the user want black background they can put it themself black 19:11:12 (Or any other colours/patterns they want for background) 19:11:29 If Google changes it to black and the user does not want then user can change it back to white 19:13:13 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 19:13:15 I don't own any device without a backlight, or with a backlight but which would turn it down if the background is black 19:14:40 I will just turn off the monitor when not using it, although I use black background for xterm anyways (the system status bar is also black) 19:14:45 -!- JesseH has joined. 19:22:52 -!- FreeFull has quit (Quit: BBS). 19:26:50 -!- ais523 has quit. 19:28:45 From what I've read, many TFT displays (but not all) use more electricity for black than for white, but the backlight dominates the power consumption. 19:34:17 -!- FreeFull has joined. 19:42:18 FreeFull: no device without a blacklight? you're too old for calculators with non-color lcds? 19:44:28 s/old/young/ 19:45:02 b_jonas: Ok, I do have a calculator. Forgot about it 19:45:09 I can't load google on my calculator though 19:45:20 s/old/young/ 19:45:43 Also, LCD screens usually let light through by default, and don't if an electric field is applied 19:46:01 Although it's possible to orient the polarising filters in a different way to have it the other way around 19:46:56 FreeFull: it's a bit more complicated. some black and white LCDs, mostly the ones used in book readers, are made such that they consume electricity for changing the image 19:47:55 however, in a mobile phone, if you have the blacklight off, the screen is often not updated, but that's not because of the tft, it's because of the cpu and grahpics chips use less power that way 19:47:58 b_jonas: There's also e-ink screens, which aren't LCDs at all 19:48:03 my monitor actually does switch off its backlight when the screen becomes all black (more of a nuisance than a feature, honestly... I'd prefer it to only do that when there's no signal...) but that's practically never going to happen with a browser window open, because of the window decoration. 19:48:10 FreeFull: not LCDs? hmm 19:48:11 b_jonas: Also, it's not a blacklight, it's a backlight 19:48:28 Blacklight is ultraviolet 19:51:21 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 19:51:21 -!- `^_^v has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 19:58:44 oh! sorry, that was a typo, yes 19:58:47 backlight definitely 19:59:38 My monitor turns down the backlight occasionally. 20:00:02 I only notice it when getting an all-black screen, which noticeably darkens after a second or three. 20:00:11 It's more distracting than useful. But this is a crappy monitor. 20:00:13 -!- `^_^v has joined. 20:00:32 Leaks light quite a lot, and the backlight strips are clearly visible on dark solid color regions (like black). 20:00:36 fizzie: yes, that's apparently a "feature" and selling point in some new led monitors, and can be very annoying: 20:01:24 I'm pretty sure this isn't LED. 20:01:25 I've seen it only once in some monitor displaying some public information, which I've seen in the day during some sunlight, and when most of the screen was darker, the bright on dark text scrolling on the bottom became very dark and unreadable. 20:02:05 They're advertising it as an energy saving feature. 20:02:20