< 1444521601 157645 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that idea. < 1444521602 854450 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no he's just crazy hth < 1444521606 46133 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1444521607 716837 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course < 1444521617 160456 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, what's a "list"? It's a data type, you say? But what's a "data type"? < 1444521635 932555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me slightly of oklopol's Clue < 1444521636 551478 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Oh, fun thesis examination bureaucracy news. The full instructions for references are: "-- must be presented according to an internationally approved standard." The Committee meeting had a look at my manuscript, and said that I need to "fix the references" because they need to be Harvard style. As far as I can tell, there's no formal definition of Harvard style beyond some general ... < 1444521642 590099 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... consensuses (author-year citations, alphabetical list by surname); the natbib style I was using is very close to existing examples except for ridiculously small details; and this Harvard thing isn't mentioned anywhere in the instructions. < 1444521646 549036 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(On the other hand, they also said it's enough that I fix them in the final manuscript, so I don't have to wait another month for a new meeting.) < 1444521660 342317 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: my place, the rule was "you can use a numbered or author/date style but must be consistent" < 1444521662 87065 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are we talking plain old algebraic data types here? Or maybe it's more like STLC. < 1444521673 204686 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I should include pattern matching in function definitions, somehow < 1444521683 189574 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main bureaucracy issues I had were that the instructions kind-of assumed that you were using Word < 1444521684 35523 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a case construct. Python doesn't have one, for some reason. < 1444521690 294834 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right down to limitations on the font size < 1444521705 788479 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to go into OpenOffice and carefully compare LaTeX outputs with various settings to Liberation Sans < 1444521756 34591 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even then I couldn't match exactly < 1444521758 377887 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, the big problem with putting a case construct in Python is the question of what would happen if you wanted to use a defined constant as one of your cases. < 1444521772 839740 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Arguably, "internationally approved standard" should encompass numeric styles too. At least the "using Word" assumptions only covered the actual application form, which was a .doc (or a Word-generated .rtf, which really wasn't any better). < 1444521786 764646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, the .doc version worked much better in LibreOffice. < 1444521801 56256 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: right, here they were very careful to not assume Word, but in name only < 1444521813 856402 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's definitely something you would want to do, but Python doesn't really have a notion of a defined constant; they're just variables that happen to never change. < 1444521814 393320 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is like the time at school when I was asked how to copy cells on a spreadsheet < 1444521826 784102 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said "you'd use the 'copy to' command in the spreadsheet program's menus" < 1444521833 6046 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :And having a *variable* as one of your cases opens up a whole nother can of fish. < 1444521839 565704 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they marked it wrong, on the basis that the expected answer was copy-and-paste < 1444521845 892736 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I include C-Like Scope in my language? It'd make you declare variables elsewhere, but it'd make typing easier... < 1444521857 593820 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The language should have optional types, I'm sure of that < 1444521866 571160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I complained that I knew three different spreadsheet programs, and two of them had "copy to" as the only option for copying (and IIRC it exists somewhere in Excel too, or used to) < 1444521889 325661 :WashIrving!~Qfwfq@unaffiliated/washirving QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1444521891 578488 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: depends on your goals, as always. < 1444521898 439578 :VictorCL!~VictorCL@67.pool85-50-174.dynamic.orange.es QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1444521916 165606 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I were to create a programming language for beginners, I would definitely make you declare and explicitly initialize all variables. < 1444521921 318834 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still formulating my goals... < 1444521937 473048 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that case, perhaps your goals depend on the answer to your question. < 1444521988 654474 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't for beginners, necessarily, It's for people who like pythony languages, but also like features from other, stranger languages like Prolog and Haskell and maybe even Thue. < 1444522004 839237 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more of an exploration for a programmer; like a spirit walk in the realm of programming < 1444522074 273533 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But also something that could be used < 1444522122 956734 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If feasible, you'd be able to do things as advanced as /defining operators/ < 1444522178 777334 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like func a+-b: return {a+b, a-b} < 1444522190 404171 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Where {} is a set notation) < 1444522222 93078 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I suppose you wouldn't need the return < 1444522251 304363 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that sounds a lot like Perl 6 < 1444522281 54419 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I suppose it might be. Perl 6 has operator definitions like that? < 1444522299 652225 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: actually lots of languages let you define operators like that, including Perl 6 < 1444522308 132375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's that specific operator (returning a set) that reminded me of Perl 6 in particular, though < 1444522308 962564 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't actually know much about Perl 6. I tried learning Perl 5, but as soon as I learned about qw() I set down the book and didn't open it again < 1444522325 329558 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I do know that many languages allow that < 1444522365 981492 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :妻如姫委姿妄妃妊妖壮壱垂均型圏吐吟否宅宇 < 1444522367 425000 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :守安完宗宣官宙定宝実室宮害容宿富寒扶技抄 < 1444522408 514447 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: why don't you like qw()? < 1444522457 257013 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It seems to be context-sensitive, and I consider that to be bad practice in language design. Unless, of course, Perl has some snazzy feature that allows you to define that without it being context-sensitive < 1444522482 867281 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: lots of things in Perl are context-sensitive, but qw() isn't one of them < 1444522495 920769 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Really? How does it work then? < 1444522523 842576 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not that I'm not sure what "context-sensitive" precisely means, I just took a shot in the dark there) < 1444522526 271221 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl looks at the character after the qw < 1444522540 730906 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then scans forwards to a matching character (matching bracket-like character, or a copy if it isn't bracket-like) < 1444522548 388616 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then splits everything in between on spaces < 1444522552 414066 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and returns it as a list < 1444522573 557690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so qw(abc def ghi) is equivalent to qw/abc def ghi/ which is equivalent to ('abc', 'def', 'ghi') < 1444522587 705580 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that < 1444522603 316842 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is qw() hard-coded into the language then? < 1444522607 791803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see < 1444522611 627196 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because if it is, that's what I have a problem with < 1444522621 503608 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in Perl 5, the quotelike operators are all hardcoded < 1444522626 432268 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like that there's a function that takes entirely separate syntax from everything else < 1444522626 944244 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except if you mess around with source filters < 1444522635 837801 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qw isn't a function < 1444522642 767004 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a quotation mark < 1444522643 161700 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then what is it? < 1444522651 355737 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Um. < 1444522652 95404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like "" and '' and // and qr// < 1444522656 23917 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : /Weird/ < 1444522657 671418 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have qw// < 1444522665 604546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually all the quotation marks have letter equivalents < 1444522671 719472 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That scares me. < 1444522672 718009 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qq//, q//, m//, qr//, qw// < 1444522693 309572 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I still think it'd make more sense to just have a python-like split() function < 1444522694 32800 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :qw and qr are the only ones (IIRC) that don't have punctuation equivalents though < 1444522703 564522 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in Perl 6, qw does have a punctuation equivalent: <>) < 1444522713 454230 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Perl 6 also has a qqw, whose punctuation equivalent is «») < 1444522721 368914 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl has a split function too < 1444522729 846931 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then why does it need qw? < 1444522745 890210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :easier-to-read Syntax < 1444522751 367350 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, unless it's an efficiency thing... < 1444522753 850497 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1444522756 405673 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl was designed by a linguist, it follows natural language principles not programming language principles < 1444522763 698240 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting < 1444522767 464294 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can write if(!$x) or unless($x), for example < 1444522781 913678 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find qw() /harder/ to read as syntax because it looks like a function to me. < 1444522797 456779 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thus I interpret everything between it as more code < 1444522815 461422 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And have NO clue how to deal with the invalid thing "x" or whatever I see in there < 1444522847 161536 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I normally write it as qw// < 1444522882 955851 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes a bit more sense, but I'd still read it as a function if I were programmed ot read perl. The "/"s I would recognize as the start of a function. < 1444522884 979140 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite a few languages have syntax composed of keywords that look as if they could be ordinary identifiers. < 1444522995 674038 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if Perl had kept the & prefix on function calls, IMO it'd have made a lot more sense < 1444523179 602118 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I include pointers in my language, or should pointers stay exclusively at the low level? < 1444523272 582870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: think at the following level: do you want the concept of two variables "sharing" to exist in your language, and if so, what does it mean? < 1444523296 484575 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I have no clue what "sharing" means < 1444523308 49072 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so for example in C < 1444523309 83423 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: \helloren\. still adding new kanji? ^^ < 1444523316 87223 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :two variables can share if they're both pointers that point to the same thing < 1444523323 858601 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because modifying the target of one will modify the target of the other < 1444523338 638296 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :likewise, one variable can point to another, then modifying the target of one will modify the other directly < 1444523342 4278 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this can make C hard to reason about < 1444523350 202741 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1444523354 445027 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a bunch of other pointer-like structures, most of which have different sharing properties < 1444523382 470381 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also have languages where sharing doesn't exist, such as BASIC < 1444523392 430305 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and langauges where modification doesn't exist, such as Haskell (in which case sharing is hard to define) < 1444523435 981608 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, say, in Feather, things can't be modified, but they can be retroactively modified, and in this case the equivalent of "sharing" is if a retroactive modification to one will change the other < 1444523455 955100 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In BASIC you can have passing-by-reference though, and you can also use VARPTR and PEEK and POKE, although there are no pointer types. < 1444523718 747346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goddammit how does someone manage to write an answer to a 38 minutes old SO question just a _second_ before i was about to post mine... < 1444523747 849731 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i bet your answer was better hth < 1444523780 563849 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yeah < 1444524095 277717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it was pretty much equivalent. < 1444524116 46609 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a simple question http://stackoverflow.com/questions/33060211/why-the-illegal-non-exchastive-pattern-matching-in-this-code#33060421 < 1444524133 965983 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1444524143 606590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have i discouraged you from short links? < 1444524194 291888 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1444524256 941636 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that answer doesn't seem to handle the 1 and 2 element entries < 1444524259 52436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus yours is better :-P < 1444524266 44267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really, i was just pasting from the address bar this time, i'm not exactly sure why it had a comment anchor, maybe because i clicked the "new edit" link < 1444524272 218828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: mine didn't either < 1444524284 130451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha ;-) < 1444524438 702510 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :comment anchors are fine and so are short links < 1444524449 560272 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is no h8r < 1444524474 73504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i figured the OP probably had some reason to assume list lengths were divisible by 3 (if the special letters had been AGCT it would have been a no-brainer) < 1444524493 671413 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a set of tiles which I remember were used several years ago to play a chess variant. I do not remember all of the details, but it was played on a 8x8 board and one area apart from the grid labeled "Eton". < 1444524548 399143 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :λ-nomic is still an idea I want to go through with < 1444524557 302340 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that description doesn't make eton of sense < 1444524559 88758 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1444524656 333328 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Watching a game I noticed that sometimes players could take back each other's moves, and in one case a player picked up one of the pieces from the board and put it into his pocket (probably as a joke, as he then put it back onto the board in the same position, and made a move). < 1444524697 358340 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe he replaced it with a different piece? < 1444524729 996896 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looked like the same piece to me, but maybe you are right < 1444524743 704467 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1444524746 119675 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe it was different on the reverse side, in an attempt to cheat) < 1444524782 927412 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's allowed by the rules of the game. < 1444524787 648631 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many of these pieces are blank on both dies, while some are blank on only one side and some are blank on neither side. Usually one side is either blank or has a "E" or a number, while the other side has some icon to represent what kind of piece. < 1444524799 789642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheating, I mean. < 1444524818 470116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you pay Zork Zero? < 1444524825 253672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :play < 1444524850 448871 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1444524907 43629 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, one piece says "E8" on one side. The pieces include bishops, queens, kings, nights, ponds, castles, a judge, a man wearing a hat, faces with cat-ears, and one piece appears to be Pikachu. < 1444524957 970125 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They seem to come in four colours: white, yellow, green, and blue; only one of the pieces is blue. < 1444524967 954558 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Not yet < 1444525197 518163 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1444525533 393261 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Well, a standard chess board is 8x8 too < 1444525632 301534 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I know that. < 1444525677 636294 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although this one also had a "Eton" area in addition to the 8x8 grid. < 1444525816 124352 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this game sounds like the result of calvinball, or possibly nomic < 1444525821 261152 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more likely a nomic < 1444525826 874135 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, maybe < 1444525829 117295 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh: if I press the "mute" key on the keyboard, my X session dies with "simple.c:433: snd_mixer_selem_get_playback_switch: Assertion `(elem)->type == SND_MIXER_ELEM_SIMPLE' failed." < 1444525833 98024 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In retrospect, using Sound.ALSA.Mixer directly from XMonad to adjust volume may have been a mistake. < 1444525975 509639 :relrod_!~relrod@redhat/relrod NICK :relrod < 1444526243 267790 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found these pieces, and yet I lost the rules for a different chess variant called "Emperor Wars", which I have never observed or played a game of. I can remember a few things about it though, and it is certainly an entirely different game, although the same 8x8 board is used. < 1444526460 393514 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea: at the start of the game, your pieces are randomly generated as a permutation of all piece inventories with a given worth < 1444526525 570755 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Yes that is a idea to make up the game < 1444526553 578476 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if the game is a 9 point game, you could get one queen, or nine pawns, or 3 knights < 1444526587 25570 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the competitors or the event determines the point total for each side < 1444526606 105921 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1444526733 269491 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a standard inventory of pieces has 39 points. therefore, an extra row of board or two may need to be added if a player ends up with 39 pawns and a king < 1444526784 543875 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'd prefer the 39 pawns + king to the standard piece inventory < 1444526857 516671 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and in chess the pawns can also promote, so you can end up with other pieces anyways < 1444526918 294441 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another variant I have seen is the same 8x8 board, king starts in the normal place, but the rest of the board is filled with queens; your half of the board has your queens/king. < 1444526937 98116 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rules is otherwise same like FIDE chess (although castling is not possible, as there are no rook) < 1444526969 142816 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a MAD situations < 1444527083 70965 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it even possible for Black to win? < 1444527199 177645 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm remembering a chess variant where one of the players has only a Queen (or maybe a Queen-Knight?), and the other player has to checkmate it < 1444527202 47387 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can't remember the details < 1444527217 455770 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I think I have read about that too. < 1444527261 710272 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Wikipedia's list of chess variants doesn't seem to have it < 1444527555 348005 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1444527917 727111 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to use parser combinators to parse a pythonic indent-style code block thing? < 1444527933 165236 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll just use curly brackets... < 1444527943 238451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: indentation should be changed into brace-tokens in the lexer < 1444527948 817733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're using a python-style language < 1444527953 828478 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooooooooh < 1444527975 302775 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or would that be some sort of prelexing process? < 1444528018 558578 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll add a component to my language to allow you to import new /syntax/, if I can figure out a way to do so < 1444528051 1813 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can tell roughly how to do it with lexing, but not the parsing < 1444528122 201189 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: in Perl, there's a language structure that runs the instant it's been parsed (and can contain arbitrary commands) < 1444528133 218090 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and can affect the parsing/lexing of the rest of the program (normally parsing though) < 1444528151 974444 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I would like it for my combinators and thue libraries) < 1444528222 543338 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And possibly more) < 1444529602 327758 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1444530486 171935 :ocharles__!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-otbuhelaqciyyllj QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1444530611 902743 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1444530622 450952 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1444530803 132019 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1444530891 417269 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1444531118 956993 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: ENQUEUED CHICKEN < 1444532479 763460 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1444532787 164819 :ocharles__!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dpiaayiozpmwrtpk JOIN :#esoteric < 1444532939 116626 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1444533203 216397 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric programming language incorporating an esoteric human language as the naming scheme for functions, classes, etc. < 1444533246 848696 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hadu! < 1444533251 296689 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Hi < 1444533271 142479 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hppavilion[1] < 1444533364 195228 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hadu yudu. < 1444533457 402907 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A player may have no more than four knights, four bishops, four rooks, or two queens on the board at any one time, but may have as many as fifteen kings." < 1444533460 974440 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chess variants are fun < 1444533582 396964 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played a game called "Chinese chess" today. < 1444533583 796728 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, here's a nice variant: black starts with 20 knights (on ranks 7, 8, and abgh6) and no other pieces, and must checkmate white within 50 moves < 1444533887 47155 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know how to play Chinese chess as well < 1444534077 313813 :bender|!~sid123@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 JOIN :#esoteric < 1444534439 771070 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most programming languages are imperative. Like a dictatorship < 1444534456 161048 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to see a Democracy-oriented programming language (one that's still deterministic) < 1444536578 41233 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1444536588 107583 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1444536839 91122 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1444537801 816192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1444538296 301331 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1444538487 457204 :bender|!~sid123@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1444538760 405761 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1444538800 432050 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1444539060 985622 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1444539168 409251 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1444539264 524131 :bender|!~sid123@2404:e800:e61a:41d:f9f4:58d0:e9e7:5e0f JOIN :#esoteric < 1444539264 701136 :bender|!~sid123@2404:e800:e61a:41d:f9f4:58d0:e9e7:5e0f QUIT :Changing host < 1444539264 701201 :bender|!~sid123@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 JOIN :#esoteric < 1444539865 306889 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07LOLCODE14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44678&oldid=44592 5* 03168.1.6.22 5* (+0) 10/* Keywords */ < 1444541780 180154 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other chess variants can involve hidden information, randomness (before the game starts, during the game, or both), more than two players, more than two dimensions, more than one piece per cell, etc. < 1444541973 388412 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ever heard of Shogi? < 1444541988 655409 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: yes, I've even played it < 1444542024 547009 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I brought back a board from Japan, I think I've played it once in this country < 1444542051 592600 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC I made my own set out of cardboard < 1444542062 714023 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as fun < 1444542064 705686 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even really remember the rules now though < 1444542104 394483 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know how to play shogi too < 1444542134 93640 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: all the pieces look the same, so you can capture your opponents pieces and use them as your own < 1444542150 961513 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also play tsumeshogi < 1444542183 745177 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was always my favorite Shogi rule < 1444542201 792845 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and the superbishops and superrooks < 1444542205 414273 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :try this in bash PS1='${a[=]}' < 1444542293 241548 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: no thanks < 1444542338 347456 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :y u no trust me ;-; < 1444542459 185682 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does that code mean? < 1444542510 105199 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't mean anything < 1444542522 948069 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I do run it I get "bash: =: syntax error: operand expected (error token is "=")" < 1444542524 985995 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :PS1 is the prompt string, ${a[ ]} is any array, = is used as the subscript and it's a syntax error in math < 1444542565 173567 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes but the point is that bash is stupid and it reprints that error over and over and you have to kill it < 1444542573 807676 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Yes, that is what I got; it repeated the message forever until I used the SIGKILL menu to stop it. < 1444542605 213947 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just did echo ${a[=]} < 1444542609 882081 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I know what PS1 does < 1444542662 706243 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: try this in bash: rm -rf / < 1444542689 950220 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: it is dangerous to operate recursively on ‘/’ < 1444542691 563537 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: use --no-preserve-root to override this failsafe < 1444542694 763505 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what < 1444542705 694991 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION *facepalm* < 1444542711 472230 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now type "man rm" < 1444542733 866253 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: when you get a blue screen, then you know it's working < 1444542747 838608 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's not yet working < 1444542771 885699 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then push the F92359825 key. < 1444542803 17754 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i'd get a blue screen, btw < 1444542849 626287 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already tried that in virtual machines and the shell is still perfectly working < 1444542881 213818 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to umount /proc and a few things first but it works < 1444542930 383466 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1444542979 31729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the funny thing is, although not implementing rm -rf / makes perfect sense < 1444542986 370686 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's some row about whether it's permitted by the standards < 1444542999 697183 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it might have been the BSD people who pointed out that deleting the current directory is allowed to be a special case < 1444543011 651658 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a recursive delete on / necessarily includes the current directory < 1444543015 909614 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although they were wrong, because of chroot) < 1444543029 894240 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you surely should be able to do this rm -rf /* < 1444543052 718974 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the root directory is the current directory, then yes < 1444543156 252514 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :A hot issue for all the programmers who rely on POSIX conforming behaviour for rm -rf / < 1444543165 462773 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: stop trying to get people to recursively delete their root filesystem (and everything mounted on it) < 1444543185 606062 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I'm trying to think of a situation where that's useful < 1444543187 638833 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't, adu did -_- < 1444543192 908544 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1444543196 239995 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: stop trying to get people to recursively delete their root filesystem (and everything mounted on it) < 1444543205 608685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only situation I can think of involves a chroot < 1444543296 86664 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Good thing POSIX doesn't specify chroot. < 1444543314 117350 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: huh, it doesn't? < 1444543319 877 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some values of good < 1444543322 265784 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it always feels kind-of random as to what is and isn't in POSIX < 1444543323 434509 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, it does. < 1444543328 120262 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As of 2001. < 1444543338 764011 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, no. < 1444543340 292370 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you'd think POSIX would at least need to be aware of it, so as to remark on the security implications < 1444543341 157454 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opposite. < 1444543346 185778 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :removed in 2001? < 1444543349 470538 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It *removed* it as of 2001. < 1444543369 646412 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was deprecated in earlier versions. < 1444543537 528341 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the deprecation reason? security-related? "not everyone can implement this"-related? < 1444543577 909769 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure. < 1444543659 861197 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux has now managed to conjure up a way for non-root to do chroot < 1444543664 88934 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the user namespaces thingy) < 1444543690 675271 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :user namespaces are almost certainly going to be a fountain of security bugs, and some distros are refusing to enable them because of that, but they're really useful for Web of Lies so I'm in favour < 1444544910 116140 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Web of Lies? < 1444544948 247176 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe sie meant internet of things < 1444544986 823700 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This tsume shogi game is difficult for me! However I have managed to figure out the first 84 levels, at least. < 1444545009 814327 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There are 200 levels in total) < 1444545262 236686 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another kind of card of Magic: the Gathering can be: "Enchanted permanent loses all supertypes." < 1444545765 859552 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: izabera: I wasn't "trying to get people" to do anything, it was a humorous rebuttle < 1444545773 640775 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1444545811 255729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: formerly known as The Secret Project, but it became less secret over time < 1444546452 257341 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have once seen the answer of a Magic: the Puzzling that I guess may have involved making a decision for an opponent's Forgotten Lore spell. I have idea do the similar thing with opponent's Fact or Fiction spell. < 1444546477 209720 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any M:tG effect that forces an opponent to cast a spell? < 1444546488 486366 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I vaguely remember a spell called Word of Command) < 1444546495 531249 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mindslaver/Worst Fears doesn't count for this < 1444546496 62248 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, Word of Command is it. < 1444546524 472938 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is what I thought of too when you asked the question < 1444547869 120993 :adu!~ajr@c-73-133-129-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1444548667 214556 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1444550257 999793 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1444550499 688525 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I happen to have defined a macro in TeX with the following heading: \def\dohead#1#2.#3#4(#5)(#6)(#7)<#8> #9\par{ < 1444551421 294828 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1444551505 119855 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1444551537 659650 :jix_!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1444551673 286229 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1444551694 367997 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1444551769 141222 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1444552082 944427 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1444552277 43731 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e JOIN :#esoteric < 1444552565 770356 :ocharles__!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dpiaayiozpmwrtpk QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1444553495 556878 :ocharles__!sid30093@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-skdrwjgrpcpghrql JOIN :#esoteric < 1444553509 175248 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morning < 1444554264 892925 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1444554561 318150 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1444555586 442233 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1444556358 358349 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1444556946 427236 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-229-111.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1444557372 403901 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1444557831 602581 :VictorCL!~VictorCL@67.pool85-50-174.dynamic.orange.es JOIN :#esoteric < 1444558141 238143 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-229-111.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1444559269 702738 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1444560247 564056 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1444560675 466323 :perrier_!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1444561965 868533 :MoALTz_!~no@user-46-113-33-151.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1444562139 152213 :MoALTz!~no@78.11.179.104 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1444562195 436093 :MoALTz__!~no@78.11.179.104 JOIN :#esoteric < 1444562394 451547 :MoALTz_!~no@user-46-113-33-151.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1444563570 610637 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1444565016 448620 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1444565646 949772 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I should have mentioned before, but there was the International Aheui Conference on 2015-10-09 (local time) < 1444565674 862763 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had, uh, twenty-ish people there < 1444567974 975216 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1444569306 834196 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1444569378 474355 :bender|!~sid123@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1444569421 461769 :bender|!~sid123@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 JOIN :#esoteric < 1444570739 594850 :danianthue!b810e166@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.16.225.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1444570998 596346 :danianthue!b810e166@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.16.225.102 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1444571810 570018 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1444571880 453507 :FireFly!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1444572222 505799 :mauris__!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1444572279 91760 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1444573155 338944 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1444573365 848732 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1444573571 249689 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1444573572 279063 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti/kallisti is a former prophet swearing off his pastry deity. < 1444573886 721727 :MoALTz__!~no@78.11.179.104 NICK :MoALTz < 1444573900 875209 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-164-249.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1444573953 851717 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :) botsnack < 1444573964 848958 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :( botsnack < 1444573965 127347 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-164-249.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable botsnack < 1444574777 722867 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1444575109 581673 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-164-249.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1444575652 940596 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-164-249.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1444575844 612752 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsmack < 1444575844 789995 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1444575932 903329 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafellot. please refrain from smacking bots. they may revolt. < 1444576126 742714 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you agree? < 1444576126 919785 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: too many students working with howard carter when he excavated the tomb of amenhotep ii: the quickening is the sequel to the popular film, returns to help of the british know all about time travellin' through the door < 1444576156 965751 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: sounds like a maybe to me... < 1444576157 142820 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: to the worm he's actually right, the village, you spend the night, but this is the way, myth, god created the universe, a better universe! we choose only die fittest people, animals, a mad skeletal in some depictions, this transition can take place anywhere, and a killer taipan < 1444576179 914494 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1444576180 91800 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs* jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1444576196 368690 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( The lair of the killer taipan ) < 1444576403 911680 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style discworld < 1444576404 88583 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: discworld (a subset of Terry Pratchett's Discworld books) < 1444576411 236400 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I love bananas < 1444576411 660335 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: " endos?" said rincewind patiently. " of course he'll object. that's what i'm saying. what was going to say, ' < 1444576431 39665 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :endos. < 1444576433 326612 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :endos?! < 1444576453 283524 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm thinking of endomorphisms, but how did they end up in the Discworld Category?) < 1444576473 699084 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wiki.lspace.org/mediawiki/Endos < 1444576497 507414 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, found it. < 1444576502 86183 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: no, Endos as in the extraterrestrial race of Endo from ICFP 2007 http://save-endo.cs.uu.nl/ < 1444576515 741931 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's probably named after endomorphisms. < 1444576545 585319 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: pLeAsE LeArN SoMe cApItAlIzAtIoN, tWh.aPiTaLiZaTiOn. < 1444576545 986535 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: granny stood up. there was always a nice day, so they only needed three. might as well please himself and he'd henceforth stuck to the other. < 1444576557 726894 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Lair of the Killer Taipan. I could watch a movie titled like that. < 1444576612 689896 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(C-j is right next to C-k on the keyboard, sigh...) < 1444576634 686557 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1444576637 198790 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02sandcoin 06sefcoin 13kelcoin 04spacencecoin 07limalcoin 08clecoin 09bagedcoin 02galcoin 06scabracoin 13wunacoin 04grassencoin 07tropycoin 08witchilcoin 09hypersetcoin 02greeivecoin 06jumptealcoin 13hisesocoin 04dupilcoin 07alacoin 08ecodantincoin < 1444576686 330246 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? coins < 1444576687 42812 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coins? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1444576692 178558 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? coincidence < 1444576692 890964 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coincidence? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1444576697 986841 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? taipan < 1444576698 789423 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taipan? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1444577121 204723 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1444577293 696545 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1444577406 345178 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1444577422 805578 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oevenirjang < 1444577448 218847 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :good mørjaning. < 1444577485 674962 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, "idkwcom" <-- interpretations welcome < 1444577508 643182 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't kill wild cows on Moon? < 1444577565 960265 :bender|!~sid123@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1444577617 767071 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :google has 10 results... fewer than I expected < 1444577667 81711 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but I bet the first hit's intended meaning was "I don't know what came over me") < 1444577671 14941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint-e, afternoily < 1444577739 903499 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what idkwcom could ostensibly mean < 1444577901 362986 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-164-249.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1444577912 263340 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-164-249.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: rebooting < 1444577978 797603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1444577979 449887 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 111520Z 26004KT 0200 R09/0375V0600N R27/0350V0550N FG VV000 05/05 Q1028 RMK WIND 670FT 29004KT < 1444577989 983763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FG looks about right < 1444578062 346402 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar lowi < 1444578062 660921 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 111520Z 07010KT 040V110 9999 FEW030 BKN075 12/07 Q1012 NOSIG < 1444578077 173352 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice,no rain, no fog, and warmer. < 1444578093 550525 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :much less windy too < 1444578147 197307 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, VV is a fun one. "Clouds cannot be seen because of fog or heavy precipitation, so vertical visibility is given instead." < 1444578180 43990 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially when the following number is 0... wtf. < 1444578186 206690 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :VV000 also looks about right, yeah < 1444578400 30486 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :VV000??? woooah... < 1444578408 225958 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1444578408 542473 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 111500Z 24013G19KT 30SM FEW025 BKN085 BKN100 14/08 A2975 RMK CF1AC5AC2 CF TR SLP074 < 1444578418 447283 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right. I'm not in CYUL. < 1444578420 768084 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYQB < 1444578421 78893 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYQB 111500Z 24011KT 5SM -SHRA BR FEW008 SCT020 OVC050 08/07 A2971 RMK ST2SC2SC4 VIS LWR NW-N SLP063 < 1444578431 137359 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm now imagining fish swimming outside your window. How accurate is that? ;-) < 1444578434 922830 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :woohoo! still warmer than Oerjanland! < 1444578519 969760 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-164-249.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1444578575 172954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: not very accurate. < 1444578614 872574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it's hundreds of feet, i suppose VV000 might be a _little_ low, but it doesn't say how visible the cutoff should be... < 1444578641 752393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this would be easier if i had any kind of intuition for distance measures. < 1444578730 396575 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-164-249.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1444578731 277374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can make out the parking lot, the neighboring house, the kindergarten on the other side of the road from it, but not the forest behind that. < 1444578787 938184 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except barely that one tall tree < 1444578863 502356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i guess we may have snow any day now < 1444579015 869779 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure that tall tree in the fog is a tree? < 1444579030 631330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure < 1444579133 504041 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, no fish then... unless they're lurking in the distance waiting for a chance to pounce. < 1444579160 25914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks pretty tree-shaped and not at all like http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20140611 < 1444579201 468430 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that doesn't look like a fish either ;) < 1444579266 728277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a response to boily, not you. < 1444579301 16954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't recall any suitable fish monsters in GG at the spot < 1444579301 325236 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still doesn't look like a fish either :) < 1444579308 758538 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a horse monster. < 1444579314 35496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1444579329 593478 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm, wasn't there a fish species in buck godot... maybe?! < 1444579330 175326 :VictorCL!~VictorCL@67.pool85-50-174.dynamic.orange.es QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1444579351 246892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, it's been a while < 1444579353 720763 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has read too many webcomics... < 1444579439 21264 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no... the winslow doesn't look like a fish either < 1444579452 811660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely not. < 1444579542 871288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's this unfortunate guy http://yafgc.net/comic/0037-surf-n-turfed/ < 1444579584 974828 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, learned something useful... http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MagikarpPower (the japanese legend) < 1444579596 33496 :VictorCL!~VictorCL@67.pool85-50-174.dynamic.orange.es JOIN :#esoteric < 1444579692 490912 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.219 JOIN :#esoteric < 1444579993 111006 :zadock!~outsider@81.180.210.219 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1444580089 21777 :VictorCL!~VictorCL@67.pool85-50-174.dynamic.orange.es QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1444581426 423647 :FireFly!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1444581451 889104 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1444581530 578512 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1444581569 339546 :Effilry!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1444581666 883626 :Effilry!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1444581676 132990 :Effilry!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1444581738 285902 :FireFly!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1444581765 110326 :Effilry!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly NICK :FireFly < 1444581779 602851 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1444581804 526942 :VictorCL!~VictorCL@67.pool85-50-174.dynamic.orange.es JOIN :#esoteric < 1444581839 733647 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1444581979 736055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1444582204 857807 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good mroing!?!?!? < 1444582297 407741 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1444582660 346620 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1444585231 681484 :VictorCL!~VictorCL@67.pool85-50-174.dynamic.orange.es QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1444587598 566349 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer NICK :Exorc1st < 1444587745 302228 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1444587844 70895 :Exorc1st!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer NICK :_ < 1444587851 89181 :_!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer NICK :___ < 1444587854 22034 :___!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer NICK :____ < 1444587895 46211 :____!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer NICK :horsep0wer < 1444587964 458699 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1444587985 2114 :horsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1444588021 131993 :horsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1444588388 799820 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Microscript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44679&oldid=44219 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+1) 10 < 1444588446 484562 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Microscript14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44680&oldid=44679 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+1) 10/* Brainf*** equivalence */ < 1444588506 948450 :Inri_Cristo!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1444588507 125567 :Inri_Cristo!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer NICK :h00rse < 1444588619 126484 :horsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1444589153 440740 :mauris__!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1444589476 337052 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1444589804 344356 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1444590105 748466 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1444590105 965454 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1444590289 945541 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1444590316 278835 :h00rse!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1444590513 314394 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1444590608 353672 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1444590645 842429 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1444590734 304012 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1444590822 197935 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1444591540 636927 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1444591985 469015 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1444592179 64984 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1444592691 495148 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1444593751 437517 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1444593904 608672 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1444593963 144675 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@2a02:a448:4a62:0:548d:2bb6:e105:b48e QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1444594961 845554 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Math++14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44681&oldid=44350 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+274) 10/* Unary Operators */ < 1444595453 601216 :gobel!5a2c161a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.44.22.26 JOIN :#esoteric < 1444595583 686111 :gobel!5a2c161a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.44.22.26 QUIT :Client Quit < 1444596230 582903 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1444596261 615039 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1444596283 393981 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should make up an Esoteric Citation Format and start citing things on the Wiki using it < 1444596533 893629 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be parsable by machines easily, and should be human-readable. XML-based, perhaps? < 1444596596 796142 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1444596606 267750 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1444596617 657352 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, someone needs to make a page on Funge98. We only have a page on Befunge93, and that makes me sad < 1444596812 785884 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah. Not XML. m-expressions. < 1444596975 320565 :VictorCL!~VictorCL@67.pool85-50-174.dynamic.orange.es JOIN :#esoteric < 1444598014 911383 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1444598499 309084 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc8-aztw23-2-0-cust128.aztw.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1444598571 621640 :hppavilion1!423aab85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.58.171.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1444600037 567431 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1444600265 727876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1444600281 121684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :reboily < 1444600836 763176 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1444601150 937097 :VictorCL!~VictorCL@67.pool85-50-174.dynamic.orange.es QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1444601151 296718 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :reojan. < 1444601415 640047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels reordered < 1444601585 503908 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1444602020 285497 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1444602142 931820 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ozclhkkzsbxprrjg JOIN :#esoteric < 1444602831 837011 :VictorCL!~VictorCL@67.pool85-50-174.dynamic.orange.es JOIN :#esoteric < 1444603229 586532 :VictorCL!~VictorCL@67.pool85-50-174.dynamic.orange.es QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1444603491 894764 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1444603575 362937 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1444603711 570008 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1444603995 468631 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1444604111 835738 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No you should make the citation format using MediaWiki and not using XML, if it is going to be use in wiki then you will need to make it used MediaWiki. < 1444604646 909822 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-229-111.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1444604697 579544 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-229-111.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1444605151 238558 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1444606322 681854 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Math++14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44682&oldid=44681 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+46) 10/* Common Logarithm */ < 1444606342 892970 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Math++14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44683&oldid=44682 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+46) 10/* Natural Logarithm */ < 1444606348 683799 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :reonaj < 1444606357 748734 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :røjan? < 1444606364 769229 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Math++14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44684&oldid=44683 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (-6) 10/* Square Root */ < 1444606373 5273 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Math++14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44685&oldid=44684 5* 03SuperJedi224 5* (+28) 10/* Cube Root */ < 1444606412 650382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stttew < 1444606674 3411 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ilybo < 1444606686 663598 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :liboy < 1444606699 217763 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1444606710 55856 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bylbi < 1444606724 348054 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :byloi < 1444606733 858778 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oilby < 1444606806 764378 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-229-111.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1444606838 351430 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-229-111.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1444606938 105799 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer JOIN :#esoteric < 1444607015 222495 :h0rsep0wer!~h0rsep0we@unaffiliated/h0rsep0wer QUIT :Client Quit < 1444607142 890623 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel scrambled... < 1444607478 38965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf have my s'es started to whistle < 1444607602 975824 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1444607691 406295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just discovered my s'es sound like whistles tdnh < 1444607700 514774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, they didn't used to < 1444607707 374913 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*use < 1444607765 166429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was at the dentist thursday. but i'm pretty sure it wasn't there earlier today. < 1444607799 321550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+on