< 1445558511 801535 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the quickest way to get a language into at least some use would be to attain high station near the start of a company, and put it into use in that comapny's core infrastructure < 1445558828 583137 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445558904 656182 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, true. < 1445559274 342683 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Followed shortly by attaining high station in a company and then insisting they use it in that company's core infrastructure going forward. < 1445559277 351180 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See: Go. < 1445559797 556685 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1445560388 200124 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1445561250 875558 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1445561251 414601 :ent0nces_!~ent0nces@104.238.194.236 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445561301 905734 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens when you add a matrix of width w and height h to a matrix of width w and height 1? Does that not work, or could you add the second matrix repeatedly to each row? < 1445561330 847557 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1445561331 364131 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1445561343 687975 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it doesn't work, but... < 1445561394 679840 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[REPEATED] In other news, I think I discovered a new (or at least seldom discussed) programming style and paradigm. < 1445561429 159973 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm calling it iterate-test(-execute). < 1445561441 153816 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(parentheses optional) < 1445561807 443681 :Effilry!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1445561817 89366 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1445561932 281998 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Client Quit < 1445561932 497462 :Effilry!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Client Quit < 1445562057 452985 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1445562079 244700 :Effilry!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1445562600 226107 :llue!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1445562931 746478 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe... a stringy array programming language? < 1445562988 294918 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stRing. < 1445563425 566205 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Standard single-character instructions14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=44832 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+822) 10Created Page < 1445563587 250372 :Effilry!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly NICK :FireFly < 1445563746 970395 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Standard single-character instructions14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44833&oldid=44832 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+413) 10Clarification < 1445563850 600833 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1445564265 575083 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1445565583 453734 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-214-177.dynamic.mtsallstream.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1445565774 217152 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445565965 64216 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1445566459 386005 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@104.238.194.236 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445566602 407723 :ent0nces_!~ent0nces@104.238.194.236 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1445566704 928724 :FireFly!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :stringy array programming sounds... weird < 1445567017 211787 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1445567270 443627 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445568892 589743 :ent0nces_!~ent0nces@104.238.194.236 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445569053 412459 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@104.238.194.236 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1445569342 258586 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@104.238.194.236 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445569527 417906 :ent0nces_!~ent0nces@104.238.194.236 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1445569793 604306 :ent0nces_!~ent0nces@104.238.194.236 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445569954 606796 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1445569964 255174 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@104.238.194.236 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1445570001 508270 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Client Quit < 1445571091 260517 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@104.238.194.236 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445571176 623810 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I think Profunge will have a tape of stacks and transfer box. < 1445571250 599709 :ent0nces_!~ent0nces@104.238.194.236 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1445571285 678404 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there'll be a command to pop into the transfer box and to push from the transfer box relative to the stack in the current cell < 1445572711 154233 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1445573633 10513 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES! < 1445573641 489934 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I GOT A HELLO WORLD WORKING! < 1445573655 417546 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The code is messy, but it works! < 1445574270 325741 :aretecode!~aretecode@64.120.6.170 QUIT :Quit: Toodaloo < 1445574396 901714 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1445574540 989741 :ent0nces_!~ent0nces@104.238.194.236 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445574710 271903 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@104.238.194.236 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1445576254 412702 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1445576313 850079 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: omodetou < 1445576458 848871 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um. < 1445576600 260386 :FireFly!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1445576690 445922 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1445576715 233119 :FireFly!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1445576739 965060 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1445577230 89820 :IndigoPunk!~Be.Whoeve@17.139.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt JOIN :#esoteric < 1445577240 834761 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A way to graph a function in two dimensions where x ∈ 𝕄(m, n) < 1445577281 116513 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT would be incredible < 1445577311 64423 :IndigoPunk!~Be.Whoeve@17.139.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1445578077 852076 :jaboja!~jaboja@erw37.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1445578109 23377 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode � < 1445578118 636563 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CHARACTER] < 1445578239 342001 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1445578272 449658 :jaboja!~jaboja@erw37.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1445578561 540010 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@104.238.194.236 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445578702 948610 :ent0nces_!~ent0nces@104.238.194.236 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1445578731 996389 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@104.238.194.236 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1445578769 600854 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@67-5-169-50.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445578925 693571 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1445579010 592735 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@67-5-169-50.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1445579740 614830 :spatterworhty!826ceae4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.108.234.228 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445580111 606492 :spatterworhty!826ceae4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.108.234.228 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1445580455 314953 :Froox!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1445580590 271510 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1445580977 947393 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1445582600 348578 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445582622 454725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (or nonymous function if the language allows) <-- onymous hth < 1445582648 635504 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure it's "nonymous" < 1445582662 396757 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just eliminated the a- prefix. < 1445582665 146100 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure that n is part of the an- prefix hth < 1445582672 364225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :compare pseudonymous < 1445582708 667352 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a- and an- are two different prefixes (which mean the same things), and "anonymous" uses the a- prefix. < 1445582718 816830 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's the pseudon- prefix < 1445582733 976775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes on a swatting spree -----### < 1445582775 640948 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: By "pseudonymous", we get the root word "nymous" < 1445582777 523599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION throws a norange on hppavilion[1]  < 1445582791 464404 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a norange? < 1445582799 277093 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds interesting. < 1445582813 128810 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, tasty. < 1445582850 832695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is making an etymological joke hth hth < 1445582954 326564 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a good Profunge IDE will have instruction highlighting when interpreting < 1445582995 793102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is that orange actually did lose an initial n in that way, although probably before it reached english < 1445583002 235411 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1445583005 24604 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting. < 1445583009 250268 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, tasty. < 1445583016 578136 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yay! Identical line length!) < 1445583063 896868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that word seems to have traveled a fair bit https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/orange#Etymology < 1445583106 172738 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yet nowhere did anyone think to invent a word that rhymes < 1445583107 271758 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(barring proper nouns) < 1445583230 282982 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The concept of a proprietary programming language is absolutely disgusting. < 1445583243 879359 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nonorange < 1445583271 505582 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it probably doesn't count because it's clearly derived from orange < 1445583276 956239 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks PRIVMSG #esoteric :as would be all rhymes < 1445583283 412543 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoolootwo: It doesn't count. < 1445583307 632410 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Blorenge is a hill in Norway, but that's a proper noun. < 1445583353 597869 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instruction Highlighting. Basically, to write Profunge, you have to use a spreadsheet-eque IDE. Otherwise nothing makes sense. < 1445583396 499031 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So when you interpret it, the cells' `backgroundcolor`s are changed based on where the IPs are. < 1445584088 398781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure Blorenge wouldn't rhyme with orange. < 1445584168 125554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if it were norwegian. google doesn't confirm that. < 1445584231 799343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be a strange, but not entirely imposssible word in norwegian. < 1445584465 690299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cannot find anything closer than Bjoreng < 1445584485 503321 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :door hinge < 1445584486 660775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which sounds like it would be a place name, although the hits are surnames < 1445584635 220223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I don't know wbout non-esoteric ones as much, but I'm pretty sure Forth has while loops. <-- underload doesn't have while loops, anyway. although you can obviously simulate them. < 1445584682 673769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all unbounded looping in underload essentially requires quineing. < 1445584708 798366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ((!)S:^):^ < 1445584708 975261 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ...too much output! < 1445584750 212865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1445584750 716957 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 230650Z 29015KT 9999 VCSH FEW020 BKN040 10/07 Q1004 TEMPO SHRA BKN012 RMK WIND 670FT 30019KT < 1445584768 776709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where does it say that it's rainging cats and dogs < 1445584773 449765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-g < 1445584784 421249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :o, rainging < 1445584821 609292 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ^^ < 1445584888 599192 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Radio detection and rainging < 1445584908 900568 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :raingin? < 1445584934 936443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am merely assuming my typo was a subconscious rhyme with orange hth < 1445584953 23223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that wasn't what i pinged you for btw) < 1445584995 240720 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1445584996 286378 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :25) pikhq: A lunar nation is totally pointless. ehird: consider low-gravity porn fungebob: OK. Now I'm convinced. < 1445585000 643589 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1445585002 590154 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :west midlands/Nobody knows anything about the West Midlands, and it has claimed the lives of at least two former regulars in this channel who tried to investigate so far. < 1445585034 374554 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/west midlands < 1445585036 398741 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan elliott Taneb Taneb < 1445585068 207324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't too steady on english geography < 1445585249 946521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i remember from school is the phrase "hop gardens of Kent" < 1445585312 69384 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which probably ironically stuck because it seemed like such a local thing < 1445585312 341680 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445585332 733571 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you read the pixels with javascript from an image loaded from a different host through an img tag? < 1445585383 497946 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like uhm.. and then check if this is a 1px red image? < 1445585426 573041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION assumes the answer is "no, unless you somehow enable cross-site scripting" but is prepared for anything more insane < 1445585486 994923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cross-site scripting" in the wide sense here, in case it matters < 1445585518 905135 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if the src of the image is on the same host, I can? < 1445585537 401646 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not loading the image through javascript. That's done through a static html tag) < 1445585557 836164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am just guessing. i've never written anything with javascript. < 1445585598 61290 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Make sure the image is from the same domain or you won't have access to its pixels" < 1445585604 263154 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a stackoverflow answer < 1445585605 654544 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well damn. < 1445585608 635909 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :barring possibly trivial testing < 1445585633 778496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: it sounds to me like something that _shouldn't_ be allowed by default, anyway. < 1445585644 215437 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but can't you set some HTTP header to enable that anyway? < 1445585665 170052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't ask me < 1445585671 269156 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, but that'd be a header on the other.server.com I suppose :) < 1445585684 993776 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least that's what would make sense from a security perspective :D < 1445585789 566601 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, other.server.com can set Access-Control-Allow-Origin headers < 1445585811 437067 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice. < 1445585845 134450 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... < 1445585849 582356 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you provide a REST-API... < 1445585855 725865 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't you need to allow * anyway? < 1445585922 769355 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: no, you can't see the pixels unless it's from the same domain < 1445585938 218792 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: unless you do something like https://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~dkohlbre/papers/subnormal.pdf < 1445586018 759664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, if it's on the same domain, you can just see the bytes of the file directly, no need for canvas or anything like that < 1445586027 534230 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how does this header work? < 1445586028 664716 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean... < 1445586035 726190 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the browser obviously is performing the request < 1445586040 960126 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no matter what < 1445586052 914922 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the target server responsd with an Access-Control-Allow-Origin header < 1445586059 874899 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*responds < 1445586065 475063 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the browser already made the request < 1445586069 189872 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you can set these header things if you control the server, yes < 1445586086 24567 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :javascript can make a request to a url on a different domain < 1445586092 756007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just can't necessarily see the response < 1445586120 572733 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can see some of the response, e.g. you can make a POST request inside an iframe and make onload and onerror handlers to distinguish whether the request completed successfully < 1445586143 96058 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1445586149 284048 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1445586159 209124 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you get the status code of the response? < 1445586179 752970 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so, just success/failure < 1445586184 108872 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe you can get more < 1445586184 517059 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if the target server doesn't set the allow-origin header < 1445586201 289869 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is often enough to e.g. figure out whether a user is logged in, though < 1445586291 539320 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to find a way to receive data from a different domain. < 1445586313 9962 :kallisti!471e37d7@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :XMLHttpRequest can give you a status code < 1445586316 458665 :kallisti!471e37d7@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that's something you can do < 1445586327 220571 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: does that work with SOP? < 1445586335 527269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: oh, you can do the jsonp thing < 1445586360 775438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :, and have a page that returns the data "f(...)" < 1445586398 406385 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to upload information cross-domain you can use a form in an iframe to POST data < 1445586399 513892 :kallisti!471e37d7@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19673450/xmlhttprequest-same-origin-policy < 1445586420 24113 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1445586422 533723 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jsonp looks awesome < 1445586423 233552 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1445586423 547668 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can use fancy modern http headers if you want to do it the easy way < 1445586459 705593 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :other.server.com is actually some sort of Single-Sign-On system < 1445586464 809985 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I want to read the token of the user :) < 1445586501 139618 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try the jsonp thing < 1445586509 224101 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :other.server.com belongs to you? < 1445586614 350664 :kallisti!471e37d7@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you don't have cross-origin access, HTTP GET requests still go through you jsut can't read the response < 1445586618 113653 :kallisti!471e37d7@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what happens with a POST/DELETE < 1445586710 518139 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do POST too < 1445586714 273672 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah < 1445586717 154165 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not PUT/DELETE, though < 1445586753 49558 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this jsonp thing works < 1445586759 293136 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it doesn't need to be json obviously < 1445586803 379815 :kallisti!471e37d7@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: maybe something like this would help you? http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/cors/ < 1445586933 304363 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the js-payload technique I don't even need cors settings. < 1445586941 535216 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1445587064 447588 :jaboja!~jaboja@erw37.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1445587080 570598 :Froox!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1445587094 974816 :kallisti!471e37d7@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :b-b-but muh security vulnerabilities < 1445587243 176629 :kallisti!471e37d7@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll let you figure out how easy it is to form a malicious request with a injected jsonp callback < 1445587487 235392 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: ? < 1445587511 787073 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti is suggesting that you don't trust other.server.com but aren't aware that it could be executing arbitrary code < 1445587552 810017 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but people don't care about that < 1445587563 604016 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise you couldn't include any js-library from some cdn < 1445587576 958909 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like mathjax, angular, firebase and all those < 1445587582 106924 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1445587585 238350 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but good point < 1445587607 872186 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my other.server.com can just set cors headers and then you can do the regular ajax requests < 1445587849 567932 :nchambers!nchambers@compilerdev.net NICK :agent_dtscode < 1445588146 834947 :ineiros!~itniemin@dsl-hkibrasgw1-50df7d-171.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1445588530 713028 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1445589572 633933 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445590104 646790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1445590559 261320 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1445590659 570341 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://conorobrien-foxx.github.io/Simplex/ < 1445590661 115302 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy crap < 1445590666 627038 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are so many golfing languages nowadays < 1445590838 466671 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1445591100 157760 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1445591194 604257 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq ) 1111000010110000001101111011011011010110011000110111 4234234234234423?/ < 1445591194 781219 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :262385108770647877376679257100526699 < 1445591194 781307 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq ) 1111000010110000001101111011011011010110011000110111 4234234234234423pd?/ < 1445591197 653013 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :262385108770647900000000000000000000.0 < 1445591199 827751 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit what the fuck is that < 1445591480 709568 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Simplex is a golf-based (i.e. esoteric) programming language" :( < 1445592010 235455 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we should go back to the simple times, and just go ahead and start all collectively using COBOL or some other horror < 1445592011 702330 :clog_!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1445592032 359137 :perrier_!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1445592032 359236 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1445592033 754768 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1445592035 296967 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-217.rentec.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1445592035 570216 :perrier__!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445592037 732581 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1445592057 813181 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-217.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1445592081 229886 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445592200 85689 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1445592299 757533 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's start of string in POSIX? < 1445592301 873103 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\A? < 1445592306 780745 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't seem to work < 1445592498 727722 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"start of string in POSIX"? < 1445592546 812896 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there is a "start of string" byte... there is a "newline" byte, though, that's 0x0A, and 0x00 is standard for end-of-string in C. < 1445592566 9642 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But newline goes at the end of lines, not at the start. < 1445592673 383807 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think POSIX regular expressions have that; you only get a ^ for start-of-line. < 1445592702 561899 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I assume this is about regular expressions, because \A is beginning-of-string in the Perl ones.) < 1445592928 780301 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445593094 896012 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's \` and \' apparentely for the Text.Regex package I'm using. < 1445593353 716608 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. {"10"j~[}al is shorter than any regex I know of to check if it's a binary number < 1445593374 304457 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :regex would be "\`[01]*\\'"~= < 1445593438 581185 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: yeah I meant regex < 1445593717 492620 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think normally people would just write it as ^[0-1]*$ and not worry about having multiple lines in there. < 1445594513 174411 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1445594646 275636 :sewilton_!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zlyfdjngnckafitt JOIN :#esoteric < 1445594890 929705 :sewilton!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vdsznpzuxjcxlhct QUIT :*.net *.split < 1445594890 929777 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1445595079 977019 :sewilton_!sid32560@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zlyfdjngnckafitt NICK :sewilton < 1445595543 540840 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1445595964 12598 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but ^$ doesn't work in POSIX Regex < 1445595984 6322 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1445595985 490822 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does it? < 1445596008 887202 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huch < 1445596011 511205 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I tested that < 1445596022 623335 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that works < 1445596128 757579 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1445596154 474274 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1445596299 178274 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1445596307 476101 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :swiss police is doing a mass dna test < 1445596324 434605 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they narrowed it down to 372 suspects < 1445596352 606951 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now each has to do a dna test. < 1445596362 125943 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's some good police work there :D < 1445596976 424026 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445597390 157034 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-241-225.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1445598456 748574 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1445598457 961462 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycology/mycology is a Befunge-98 (also -93 to some extent) testsuite that can be found at https://deewiant.iki.fi/projects/mycology/ < 1445598532 183046 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-241-225.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1445599278 38275 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1445599279 227010 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett/tswett is livin' it up with the penguins because he's so bad at following directions. < 1445599475 705535 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: GAMBLED CHICKEN < 1445599645 296423 :Froox!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1445599815 334834 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1445599924 789306 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1445600106 448204 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445600604 608769 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445600604 825487 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1445600604 825557 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1445602125 626164 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1445603084 570655 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1445603225 312931 :Froox!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1445603792 309335 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445604774 342937 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1445605659 802799 :clog_!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Quit: ^C < 1445605674 938692 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1445606229 279903 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1445606508 400763 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1445606825 9186 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :goddamnit < 1445606856 701219 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1445606864 150544 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :latin-1 isn't a valid HTML charset < 1445606865 670262 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pff < 1445606915 434356 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: "ISO-8859-1" < 1445606933 26989 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just call it by a fancier name :-P < 1445606948 605329 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want all your euros to be ¤s. :) < 1445606955 358160 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and then browsers interpret it as cp1252 for Internet Explorer compatibility < 1445606976 9854 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so no, you can't have iso-8859-1 as a html charset ever, because everyone will silently treat it as cp1252 < 1445606978 889964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: latin-1 doesn't have an € though < 1445606982 529292 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like latin-14 I think < 1445606986 275391 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :latin-9. < 1445606989 507008 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or ISO-8859-15. < 1445607006 474372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I like how the -N's at the end aren't in sync.) < 1445607016 105818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, seriously? < 1445607018 421804 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is amazing < 1445607019 238004 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1445607030 959354 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ISO/IEC 8859-15:1999, Information technology — 8-bit single-byte coded graphic character sets — Part 15: Latin alphabet No. 9," < 1445607032 408823 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you've said that, i think I know why < 1445607044 175251 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because not all of them are latin, but all of them are ISO-8859) < 1445607047 4124 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1445607073 747938 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nobody actually uses iso-8859-15 or iso-8859-16. people use cp1252 or cp1250 instead. < 1445607080 582432 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just use utf-8 or utf-16 < 1445607115 991677 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :iso-8859-15 was born when nobody cared about byte encodings enough to start using yet another new byte encoding < 1445607151 802468 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :People do use ISO-8859-15. < 1445607159 453610 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do? really? < 1445607160 534626 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where? < 1445607186 141881 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe not any longer. But they did. < 1445607208 562946 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to have it as the fallback character set for my IRC client, because Finnish channels had ISO-8859-15 €s. < 1445607214 40510 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? someone used it and then _stopped_? that would be even more surprisng < 1445607227 692872 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1445607235 221304 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't they use cp1252-new euros? < 1445607244 782918 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1445607250 892150 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the channels I were on. < 1445607261 383087 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember back when we used iso-8859-2 on an irc channel < 1445607267 322435 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that irc channel has switched since < 1445607275 692309 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_8859-15 "There were attempts to make ISO-8859-15 the default character set for 8-bit communication, but it was never able to supplant the popular ISO-8859-1. However, it did see some use as a character set for terminal or textual programs under Linux when the Euro sign was needed, but the use of full UTF-8 (Unicode) was not practical." < 1445607296 209041 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we had some university classroom machines defaulted to a ISO-8859-15 locale. < 1445607307 592378 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm hoping they're UTF-8 now. < 1445607313 593329 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cp1252 could be aliased as charset=windows < 1445607318 458261 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, now every channel I know uses utf-8 < 1445607325 224423 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I see < 1445607341 591982 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf "the default character set for 8-bit communication" < 1445607342 219490 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1445607343 389408 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1445607351 325283 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's always ten "the default"s < 1445607377 291340 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1445607381 643516 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody needs control characters anymore . < 1445607384 362223 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost nobody < 1445607402 181913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: 2nobody? < 1445607402 599477 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they could replace END OF TEXT with the euro sign. < 1445607417 852995 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1445607419 105902 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC is old < 1445607420 995560 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1445607426 698193 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody uses IRC anymore < 1445607430 258498 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :please tell me when the name or address of companies with accented letters don't get unrecognizably garbled on my bank account transactions list please < 1445607430 687757 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost nobody < 1445607456 559104 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody needs the 80..9f control characters, perhaps. < 1445607460 957302 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode doesn't even allow me to use ö in my nickname < 1445607470 799385 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: some people have used some of those. not all, but a few. < 1445607486 712236 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, some people do send CSI, maybe. < 1445607489 599760 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: yes, that's because clients might not like it < 1445607508 981579 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: try using | instead or something < 1445607606 185359 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's CSI in Windows-1252? < 1445607616 299270 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nothing < 1445607618 941334 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not encodable < 1445607619 859779 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(CSI is the only high-control code that I'm aware of people using) < 1445607626 584900 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: cp1252 doesn't have high control characters < 1445607632 107000 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: no, I mean what character is at 0x9b < 1445607638 999156 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check < 1445607662 920739 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :› guillamot < 1445607715 823063 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that does look kind-of like a CSI would look if it weren't invisible < 1445607879 404400 :FireFly!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think using the 8-bit CSI would be an improvement over the 7-bit one, since that way [ and wouldn't alias each other < 1445607907 753064 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esc aliasing things is pretty much an occupational hazard of terminals nowadays though < 1445607917 85197 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NH4 has the alt_is_esc option for a reason < 1445607980 267118 :FireFly!firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nod < 1445608205 958627 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefox should really allow you to scroll past pages < 1445608207 290738 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1445608233 697062 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you put a link like uhm go there but there's no content after #thingonthebottom < 1445608251 368782 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then firefox will scroll so far down that #thingonthebottom is at the bottom of the display < 1445608272 814776 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is very confusing because if you follow such a link you usually exepect that the corresponding element will be at the top of the window < 1445608276 341264 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not at the bottom < 1445608326 71010 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by firefox I mean whatever old version debian has shipped based on firefox :D < 1445608330 704724 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and renamed < 1445608359 781384 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks PRIVMSG #esoteric :iceweasel? < 1445608381 472749 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks PRIVMSG #esoteric :they update it in unstable < 1445608386 99311 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@you.know.what.toasters.rocks PRIVMSG #esoteric :and testing < 1445608398 302576 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, iceweasel < 1445608567 94125 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1445608586 416918 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445608996 420316 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1445609047 230651 :bender|!~benderx2@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445609715 386018 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1445609932 152133 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1445610014 346760 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1445611372 264311 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ ls -lah ./blsq < 1445611372 626552 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-rwxr-xr-x 1 burlesque burlesque 14M Oct 23 10:35 ./blsq < 1445611372 803397 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ ./blsq < 1445611373 400535 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-bash: ./blsq: No such file or directory < 1445611374 233588 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1445611377 504521 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the < 1445611378 480527 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell < 1445611390 220385 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's there. +x is set < 1445611395 179176 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's bash complaining about? < 1445611591 892858 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... < 1445611602 921606 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :64bit < 1445611604 4979 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1445611608 553986 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well crap :D < 1445611763 303123 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1445611853 220968 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very confusing that exec gives enoent on missing shared libraries in addition to the file you tell it to execute being missing < 1445611878 57003 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a dynamic executable :) < 1445611897 235799 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. ldd ./blsq lists no missing libraries) < 1445611907 587665 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I suppose libc or something like that might be missing < 1445611927 327352 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure but I think you need to install some stuff before you can run 32bit binaries on a 64bit linux < 1445611993 15993 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not more confusing than how you already get ENOENT for either file doesn't exist or one of the parent paths doesn't exists, and many other errnos can result from looking up a path too < 1445612011 448149 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that happens for other syscalls than execve, such as for open or link < 1445612033 917544 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :link and rename are particularly tricky because they get two paths < 1445612034 510449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: you need to install 32-bit ld-linux.so, plus any libraries it depends on (libc is the most common dependency) < 1445612063 546504 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for blsq, it might be easier to just get a 64-bit version < 1445612082 873400 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a 64bit linux available < 1445612086 161437 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except the server from int-e < 1445612091 148210 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which has ghc installed < 1445612097 292608 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can users install cabal packages? < 1445612099 646704 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1445612116 886141 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. there's no cabal installed < 1445612134 710661 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well darn. < 1445612211 578298 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's ghc 7.6.3 < 1445612214 957106 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really old :D < 1445612248 703381 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: install a newer haskell from binary straight on the server, compile with it? < 1445612275 955190 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd also need a lot of hackage packages < 1445612294 250010 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: install the "haskell platform"? how many do you need other than that? < 1445612300 856919 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots < 1445612314 783785 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq has a huge dependency graph :D < 1445612316 918280 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: if it's a haskell program, you're screwed anyway, because you'd need to install a lot of shared libraries for just the haskell runtime and modules < 1445612332 338976 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if i link it statically < 1445612336 466283 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1445612347 257297 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the default anyway for ghc binaries afaik < 1445612351 675091 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :reimplement it in C++ or something? < 1445612364 524489 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd take FOREVER < 1445612366 866168 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I know that would be hard < 1445612371 579563 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has lazy semantics and all < 1445612374 100176 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially the lazyness < 1445612376 631173 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1445612390 509734 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though at least you don't want it to be very efficient < 1445612391 576930 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no either someone can compile it for me on a 64bit machine < 1445612401 157815 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I can ask int-e to install 32bit support < 1445612410 90197 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only have an old ghc, sorry < 1445612436 382361 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd prefer the later < 1445612438 142363 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use x86_64, but I don't use haskell these days < 1445612441 410488 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because then I can update it whenever I want. < 1445612450 863968 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1445612495 597215 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mostly because blsq needs the statastics package, for disttributions and such) < 1445612513 394601 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/FMNSSun/Burlesque/blob/master/Burlesque/Eval.hs#L24 < 1445612623 109712 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Distributions and statistics, meh. There's at least four independent implementations I can list that would provide those. < 1445612630 212771 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Open source ones that is. < 1445612636 135136 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-241-225.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1445612639 721269 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in haskell, but the computation part. < 1445612749 757054 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's a Debian server, it's relatively simple to install the 32-bit compatibility libraries. < 1445612795 129255 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: no, that depends on the version of debian. if it's wheezy or newer, it's easy to install them. if it's squeeze or older, it might be more difficult. < 1445612810 665110 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc itself is easy in any case, but some other libraries can be difficult < 1445612863 63247 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Debian 8.2 < 1445612877 941762 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :jessie. < 1445612888 726053 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, then it should be easy, unless it's very low on disk space or some other resource < 1445612904 759745 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even squeeze has that 'ia32-libs' collection for "popular" packages. < 1445612919 90358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course if you need some arbitrary random i386 thing, it might get difficult. < 1445612941 498725 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc's static binaries should really just only rely on libc I think < 1445612994 645058 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1445612994 949508 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1445613021 526928 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that ldd should tell you what it depends on. < 1445613023 529758 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes. it's a collection of popular packages, but if you actually try to use those 32-bit applications where can't just get a 64-bit one or compile one, it generally turns out you don't have the right library or the right version of it. < 1445613048 929951 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: it has to rely on some of libc. some of libc is very hard to link statically. < 1445613053 373000 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: most of libc can, but that's not enough. < 1445613078 68505 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you said yourself that blsq has lots of dependencies < 1445613095 859975 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of those probably require non-haskell libraries too < 1445613119 757937 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :libpthread, librt and the like are not statically as it looks < 1445613142 786984 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/QTtq7fJ8 < 1445613147 343369 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- that's what ldd lists on my machine < 1445613168 100058 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's a relatively short list. < 1445613306 860311 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: those are just the ones loaded at ldd.so time. there might be more loaded at runtime, sadly, though there ought not to be. < 1445614334 251190 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1445614377 96237 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1445614777 521574 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-197-77.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1445614925 733542 :ent0nces_!~ent0nces@95.110.228.37 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445615072 156723 :bender|!~benderx2@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1445615347 443166 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-197-77.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1445615883 237342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1445615889 77 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1445615892 654623 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq doesn't compile anymore :( < 1445616284 503375 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm adding an everynth built-in like pythons [::a] < 1445616291 114886 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so people stop complaining about it being missing :D < 1445616506 775761 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] _3{.\ 'you''re adding an every nth builtin? good idea' < 1445616526 465291 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, the bot's not here < 1445616544 205958 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant to start it, but a bug manifested in it, and I didn't start it after < 1445616598 372654 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has an every nth < 1445616602 619651 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but different :D < 1445616620 584235 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq ) 9ro3en < 1445616621 870728 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :{3 6 9} < 1445616649 167763 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq ) 9ro3EN < 1445616650 297079 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :{1 4 7} < 1445616653 811596 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- EN is the new one < 1445616655 225750 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :en the old < 1445616673 837615 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1445616695 41826 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> range(1,10)[::3] < 1445616696 82552 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[1, 4, 7] < 1445617095 497110 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1445617325 784992 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a moment, I'll try to fix my bot < 1445617727 91389 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/reinderien/mimic < 1445617809 749519 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: ooh, evil < 1445617858 977869 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/m654z/g-asterisk < 1445617860 845100 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1445617882 351520 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, there are really many, many, many golfing languages around nowadays < 1445617890 776290 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :satan writes python < 1445617895 681037 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of them are less than a few weeks old < 1445617960 630246 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/40073/making-future-posts-runnable-online-with-stack-snippets/57190#57190 < 1445617963 636112 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1445617974 534466 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody rewrote the Beam interpreter as a stacksnippet < 1445618128 124761 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: that link got a very nice reaction in another CS channel I'm in < 1445618153 44542 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :show it < 1445618182 116449 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric : Taneb: NO NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO < 1445618196 624442 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :understandable :) < 1445618293 539607 :gamemanj_!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445618356 980390 :gamemanj_!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net NICK :gamemanj < 1445618548 983693 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/58615/1-2-fizz-4-buzz/58688#58688 < 1445618553 553115 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody wrote a FizzBuzz in Beam < 1445618577 729780 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is literally the coolest thing I've seen on stackexchange :D < 1445618667 863548 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't beam the bytecode for erlang < 1445618817 445812 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1445618870 213267 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what would happen if someone abstracted one of the 2d esolangs into 16x16 tiles, and wrote higher-level blocks in those... and continued adding more layers of abstraction... could they make a normal language? < 1445618883 221952 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] _3{.\ 'you''re adding an every nth builtin? good idea' < 1445618883 989057 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: y' dgnvytblngdd < 1445618890 151566 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] _3{:\ 'you''re adding an every nth builtin? good idea' < 1445618890 899025 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: uednaern ii oia < 1445618896 462499 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: those, right? < 1445618950 207153 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1445619088 710079 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I had a similar idea once < 1445619102 747365 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mainly where you can create "components" < 1445619106 409200 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then use those components < 1445619107 711857 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like uhm < 1445619131 418519 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :++>ADDER@ < 1445619137 711749 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where ADDER is a component < 1445619435 47868 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if adder leaves with DIR_UP you start at the D in the middle) < 1445619455 705379 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(same with DIR_DOWN, DIR_LEFT starts at A and DIR_RIGHT at R in this case) < 1445619751 139715 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.170 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1445620721 475615 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@95.110.228.37 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445620856 552402 :MoALTz_!~no@78-11-179-104.static.ip.netia.com.pl NICK :MoALTz < 1445620907 734216 :ent0nces_!~ent0nces@95.110.228.37 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1445621506 817246 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1445622028 85160 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445623432 947057 :ent0nces!~ent0nces@95.110.228.37 QUIT : < 1445623847 690911 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ifhnejpdntwlaeog JOIN :#esoteric < 1445625532 529055 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1445625655 373544 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1445625919 694745 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I glide into the station knowing my platform. I am train." < 1445625940 769154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: #trains hth < 1445625944 76269 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what this "trainline" ad is saying. < 1445625976 530944 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's an app. < 1445626072 125634 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1445626104 11286 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's an advert for an esoteric language, where the specification of the object goes before the object type that's being defined... < 1445626134 326655 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I glide into the station" is what occurs in the constructor, and "knowing my platform" is the property definition for "platform" < 1445626147 297159 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "I am train" is what defines what type of object it is < 1445626154 921809 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a train < 1445626171 644011 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I may be making this up < 1445626809 653908 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I am train" is how a train of thought asserts its consciousness. < 1445626914 68405 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens when that train of thought that is conscious has a meta-train-of-thought < 1445626926 675580 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which asserts it's own consciousness < 1445626937 28672 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what happens when... < 1445626950 650675 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :two trains of thought mate? < 1445626969 290043 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you see how this could be a mind forkbomb < 1445626974 450010 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it result in a train wreck? < 1445627042 438744 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :each train of thought will have trains of thought which will have their own trains of thought... even if every train of thought had only one sub-train, it would eventually be too overwhelming for the containing mind < 1445627072 237743 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if it had two sub-trains, you're doomed < 1445627409 280109 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445627422 433296 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know that diagram that is used in schools to explain the imaginaries to students? < 1445627458 500915 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like making "THE ULTIMATE NUMBER DIAGRAM" < 1445628058 111661 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-179-104.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1445629180 498165 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-179-104.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1445629301 756095 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1445629460 405848 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric < 1445629469 268939 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1445629506 170355 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1445629583 733941 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1445629630 378556 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1445629631 750123 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1445630166 85468 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1445630461 284031 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible to have a list in haskell that doesn't end in [] but works nontheless because of lazy evaluation? < 1445630477 994065 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, head (1:2:3:bottom) < 1445630493 758016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that, like, any cyclic list? < 1445630518 86822 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ones = 1:ones in take 10 $ ones -- and so on < 1445630522 354201 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1] < 1445630533 629142 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do think so, i wasn't sure wether or not that is trwßeated any special way < 1445630599 139584 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-197-77.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1445630615 720656 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let boom = [1,2,3,undefined] in take 3 boom ++ take 4 boom < 1445630617 446144 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,1,2,3,*Exception: Prelude.undefined < 1445630624 688961 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no, that ends in a []. < 1445630660 863209 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f :: Int; f = f; boom = [1,2,3,f] in take 3 boom < 1445630662 363235 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3] < 1445630664 471128 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f :: Int; f = f; boom = [1,2,3,f] in take 4 boom < 1445630668 411253 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1445630670 288808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so on. < 1445630712 953813 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that actually does end in a [] too, I keep having brain-farts. But I'm sure it'd be the same if you had 1:2:3:f for f :: [Int] or some-such. < 1445630715 917639 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let boom = 1:2:undefined in take 2 boom < 1445630717 611180 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2] < 1445630721 899216 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1445631510 185594 :jaboja!~jaboja@esf94.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1445631588 429053 :agent_dtscode!nchambers@compilerdev.net NICK :nchambers < 1445631784 790364 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1445632053 53620 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1445632340 608818 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1445632398 936059 :^v!~^v@c-73-161-238-89.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445632420 163111 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1445632861 292596 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1445632935 756355 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445633255 705017 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1445633523 680339 :spatterworthy!826ceae4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.108.234.228 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445633840 304614 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1445634899 10839 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1445635569 115895 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[073code14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44834&oldid=17774 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+13) 10 < 1445636120 970035 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1445636404 873804 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ifhnejpdntwlaeog QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1445636774 980710 :^v!~^v@c-73-161-238-89.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1445636870 200557 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-197-77.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1445637285 385657 :^v!~^v@c-73-161-238-89.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445637294 645147 :spatterworthy!826ceae4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.108.234.228 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1445638298 191130 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1445638412 174610 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1445638464 937684 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445638625 233138 :kallisti!471e37d7@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey guys I just thought of the best esolang < 1445638643 57246 :kallisti!471e37d7@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :a language where the only data representation is various fixed sized arrays of boolean values < 1445638650 178733 :kallisti!471e37d7@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1445639084 966536 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1445639305 110848 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1445639317 410817 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1445639419 783743 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1445639719 737760 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445640423 378903 :^v!~^v@c-73-161-238-89.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1445640702 849793 :^v!~^v@c-73-161-238-89.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1445641228 744344 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-44c0f875.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I watch the Wayside movie or will it make me puke as too childish and not close enough to the books? < 1445642015 103817 :jaboja!~jaboja@esf94.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1445642367 414095 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ALMOST have 99 bottles of beer working, except I don't have a way to convert a string to an int and back again < 1445642369 287716 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually... < 1445642512 760215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1445642624 162019 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a dean's warning? < 1445642719 242324 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :found it here http://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/30539/i-was-caught-cheating-on-an-exam-how-can-i-minimize-the-damage < 1445642729 623518 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :google is somewhat vague on the topic < 1445642794 875121 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES! IT WORKS! < 1445642810 43224 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I assume it's a warning from the dean of the college. < 1445642847 861995 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i wasn't familiar with the word "dean" < 1445642848 40056 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a 99bottles implemented in profunge! < 1445642862 678695 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: It's sort of like the principal, as far as I know. < 1445642891 306259 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except It only prints " BOTTLES OF BEER ON THE WALL!" Counting down from 99 to 0. With no line breaks. < 1445642920 468242 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :show it < 1445642928 90358 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's encoded in CSV < 1445642930 109463 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote izabera: It's sort of like the principal, as far as I know. Except It only prints " BOTTLES OF BEER ON THE WALL!" Counting down from 99 to 0. With no line breaks. < 1445642933 534170 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1257) izabera: It's sort of like the principal, as far as I know. Except It only prints " BOTTLES OF BEER ON THE WALL!" Counting down from 99 to 0. With no line breaks. < 1445642938 156241 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1445642952 6639 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is everyone in california ok < 1445642964 516160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what now < 1445642970 537017 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an earthquake? < 1445642981 442820 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mexico is prbably doomed, but can we save califoria from the hurricane < 1445642991 39337 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's raining fire here, but I'm OK. < 1445643005 429967 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for the constant agony. < 1445643029 582940 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you save anything from a f. hurricane? < 1445643056 264081 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. Hurricane. < 1445643103 412104 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: maybe they can build waterbreaks out of all those bags of cocaine < 1445643112 775406 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and izabera, here's the source: < 1445643113 635486 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"99" ">" "DUP" "PRINT" "' BOTTLES OF BEER ON THE WALL!'" "PRINT" "v" / "NOP" "NSIF1" "NOP" "DUP" "SUB" "1" "<" "This doesn't work. I need to add an INT and STR command." / "NOP" "EXIT" < 1445643122 448807 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(/ is a line break) < 1445643149 886307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(CNN) Hurricane Patricia -- the strongest hurricane ever recorded -- weakened slightly Friday as it barreled closer to Mexico's Pacific coast, with sustained winds decreasing to 190 mph and gusts to 235 mph, the National Hurricane Center said in its ..." < 1445643171 364862 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hurricane patricia? < 1445643176 16457 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering where I left that... < 1445643205 795256 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's OK to make that joke because nobody's died yet) < 1445643217 389963 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tells hppavilion[1] to write 100 times on the blackboard: "I WILL NOT CREATE SAPIENT MALEVOLENT HURRICANES" < 1445643258 639203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also use a whiteboard, but you must use physical chalk or marker hth < 1445643266 466168 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for x in range(100): blackboard.write("I WILL NOT CREATE SAPIENT MALEVOLENT HURRICANES\n\n") < 1445643268 189433 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1445643274 107471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :way ahead of you. < 1445643278 709467 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit. < 1445643318 500773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to plan for the "I WILL NOT CREATE SAPIENT MALEVOLENT BOARD-WRITING ROBOTS" issue tomorrow < 1445643455 864734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the alternative "I WILL NOT USE PERMANENT MARKERS ON THE SCHOOL BOARDS" < 1445643498 79383 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and where are you going to use them? < 1445643516 244832 :kallisti!471e37d7@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been watching a livestream of the coast where it's going to hit < 1445643528 962313 :kallisti!471e37d7@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but mostly just reading the idiotic chat < 1445643556 186027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Idiotic Chat (TM) < 1445643594 87102 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I believe idiocy is open-source public-domain and creative-commons < 1445643609 44913 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1445643628 494383 :kallisti!471e37d7@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take a sort of morbid pleasure in being horrified by the collective ignorance of a random sample of humanity < 1445643631 397846 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: does your font have ™ ? < 1445643640 130415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically none of that contradicts it being a trademark, no? < 1445643641 195144 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999918.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1445643643 471263 :kallisti!471e37d7@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a confusing emotion for me < 1445643691 629809 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is reminded of today's xkcd < 1445643741 188544 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen it yet < 1445643771 755440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may be approaching yesterday's dependent on timezone < 1445643836 398230 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, i think randall munroe has just lost all sense of how to structure a joke < 1445643850 616365 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1445643868 957141 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :from reading the latest xkcd < 1445643907 452113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, i think so did monty python, because that reminds me of their sketches < 1445643936 346942 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, I just saw it. < 1445644011 589836 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So profunge now supports a primitive 99 bottles of beer and a hello world. Next step: ~Self-hosting compiler~ IDE. < 1445644051 991659 :kallisti!471e37d7@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :joke very simple < 1445644060 412100 :kallisti!471e37d7@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have context like this < 1445644064 919446 :kallisti!471e37d7@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :then haha punch line < 1445644072 603162 :kallisti!471e37d7@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good funny < 1445644154 974100 :kallisti!471e37d7@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but new xkcd no punch line just context. :_( < 1445644192 90378 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not how jokes always work. < 1445644200 984988 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :XKCD jokes are a different kind of joke < 1445644202 971804 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Absurdism < 1445644214 817273 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is a /little/ like... < 1445644215 638050 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think kallisti may be emulating the people from that other channel < 1445644219 411920 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESOTERICISM < 1445644239 736654 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh. Which other channel? < 1445644248 446003 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not a member of this other channel. < 1445644257 174636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that "Next step" does look a little big. what about a quine? < 1445644273 491173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: The Idiotic Channel (TM) hth < 1445644278 45754 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1445644285 64293 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x(kc)D < 1445644286 5992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, *Chat < 1445644300 705766 :kallisti!471e37d7@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :filthy xkcd apologists < 1445644302 11807 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I struck out "Self-hosting compiler" in favour of an IDE < 1445644330 176969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why you hate quines < 1445644338 721795 :kallisti!471e37d7@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to bring up a self-hosting IDE but I'm pretty sure that's the vast majority of IDEs < 1445644349 295927 :kallisti!471e37d7@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :a more interesting problem is to make an IDE that cannot be used to develop itself. < 1445644355 463945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1445644363 703259 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason I'm doing an IDE before a Quine is that it's a huge pain in the ass to do CSV by hand, especially when you can't align things. < 1445644386 896540 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Self-hosting IDE compiler < 1445644399 547072 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a compiler written in an IDE that can only compile IDEs. < 1445644438 987144 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDEs are an interesting example of code for the sake of code. < 1445644464 387415 :jaboja!~jaboja@esf94.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1445644465 529080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you can write a program to generate a quine, i did that with /// < 1445644479 775564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in Haskell) < 1445644496 859093 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OR I could just make an IDE and do it by hand. < 1445644502 122257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1445644511 133594 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wouldn't be too hard; All I really need is a cell-based notepad. < 1445644526 732881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that Excel < 1445644535 332950 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(More of syntax highlighting than IDE) < 1445644553 513766 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Without the syntax highlighting) < 1445644614 569680 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-164-249.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also thought “ein Tabellenkalkulationsprogramm?” … because I can’t remember what the English term is … oh right, a spreadsheet program. < 1445644651 767473 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I'm making, really < 1445644673 532588 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's going to have a cool feature called "Instruction Highlighting" that highlights the current cell during interpretation :) < 1445644690 190778 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If... that's even possible. < 1445644754 956958 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not, now that I think about it