< 1446163387 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just took one of those Magic: the Gathering rules tests. < 1446163396 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a 75%. Woo. < 1446163461 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stuff I got wrong: Casting both halves of a fuse card counts as casting just one spell. Text is a characteristic. Vintage and Legacy are the only Eternal Constructed formats. < 1446164057 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1446164281 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-164-249.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1446164506 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: switching < 1446164525 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@71-20-42-132.war.clearwire-wmx.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1446164693 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1446164816 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1446164816 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1446164836 0 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Sounds painful. < 1446164872 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zgrellop. it's the best kind of massages. < 1446164914 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1446164921 0 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1446165091 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mroman < 1446165092 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman is a leading artist in password security (SFW). He also likes black madness. He can design password hashes that are worse than the identity function. He invented the identity function. He's also an artist in unconventional warfare. < 1446165093 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mroman_ < 1446165094 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_ is probably mroman but you can never be sure. (NSFW) < 1446165097 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mroman__ < 1446165097 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman__? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1446165102 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mroman___ < 1446165103 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman___? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1446165131 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mroman your twiceunderscored wisdomnick isn't very useful. please correct twh < 1446165131 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1446165306 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :More wrong stuff. In Two-Headed Giant, you attack teams, not players. If an object would change zones until X happens, but X has already happened, it doesn't change zones. When a fuse spell resolves, the left half works first. At Regular REL, the organizer can have players in a draft play outside their draft pod. < 1446165374 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswellott. studying to become a judge? < 1446165382 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I failed to apply logic in one case. < 1446165390 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, maybe kinda. < 1446165414 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way... < 1446165418 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heverywellone. < 1446165471 0 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :He very we l lone? < 1446165495 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a porthello. a hello portmanteau. < 1446165553 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still think the word should be "portmantelleau". < 1446165574 0 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- this random stranger is inclined to agree with tswett < 1446165630 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :collusion! < 1446165657 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disqualification! < 1446165688 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OBJECTION!!! < 1446165738 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :alexandr'ello portmantoily < 1446165791 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least a portemanteau < 1446165803 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(portemanteau is a portemanteau of porter and portmanteau) < 1446165840 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the teau of a port man < 1446165868 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? portmanteau < 1446165869 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :portmanteau? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1446165886 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn "Portmanteau" is the French spelling of "port man toe". < 1446165888 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned '"portmanteau"': "Portmanteau" is the French spelling of "port man toe". < 1446165931 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, in Magic, every so often there's an effect that restricts your choice of creatures to attack with. Sometimes, multiple of these effects contradict each other. < 1446165942 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that case, you must obey the greatest possible number of restrictions. < 1446165969 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it kind of interesting that it's "the greatest possible number of restrictions" rather than "a maximal set of restrictions". < 1446166003 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-193-184.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :are similar restrictions counted twice? < 1446166039 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so. I don't know about identical restrictions. < 1446166442 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm 'wisdom/"portmanteau"' < 1446166445 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1446166468 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn portmanteau/«Portmanteau» is the French spelling of “port man toe”. < 1446166470 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «portmanteau» < 1446166518 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops. < 1446166520 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, yours is better. < 1446166746 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1446166870 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bought a pumkin! < 1446167158 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :trudeau is the french version fo true dough < 1446167371 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\helloren\! < 1446167376 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pumpkins are nice! < 1446167389 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trudeau is the French version of trou d'eau. < 1446167398 0 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine have a habit on not becoming my friends, unlike boily apparently. :( < 1446167465 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to assert dominance over the Vegetable Kingdom. < 1446167487 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, tonight I cooked a large batch of sambar. < 1446167491 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. I managed to never know that if a spell is countered, it's removed from the stack. < 1446167508 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that it remained on the stack, and simply went to the graveyard with no effect upon resolution. < 1446167546 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? it disappears from the stack? that can't be right. < 1446167610 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hfgwolbxqjtqwhkv JOIN :#esoteric < 1446167677 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it goes from the stack to the graveyard. < 1446167708 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't go into the actually-removed-from-the-game-and-not-just-exiled zone. < 1446167714 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor, for that matter, the exile zone. < 1446167842 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, if you "play with the top card of your library revealed", exactly when do you have to reveal it? Is it a state-based action? < 1446168053 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: chelloppro. please halp. < 1446168078 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: no, it's immediate < 1446168086 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoppro. < 1446168094 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you draw seven cards, you have to reveal each card before you draw it? < 1446168097 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1446168113 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is in part due to a separate rule stating that each card draw must be processed individually < 1446168125 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you exile the top N cards of your library face down, you don't reveal them all < 1446168885 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Once Azure Mage has been destroyed, as a state-based action, its ability ceases to exist." That sounds like the sort of thing that *would* be in the rules. < 1446169068 0 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1446169362 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1446169363 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nimby/NIMBY : Not in my backyard. < 1446169370 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ̀wisdom < 1446169380 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: have you updated wisdom.pdf recently? < 1446169425 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_>'... <_<;... eeeeeeh... v_v;... < 1446169472 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yowch. 50% on that one. < 1446169480 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like my knowledge of the rules is decreasing as I keep taking tests. < 1446169540 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ̀ < 1446169541 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0020 SPACE] [U+0300 COMBINING GRAVE ACCENT] < 1446169553 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my ruse is unveiled! < 1446169554 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1446169556 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drat! < 1446169595 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shall disappear in a puff of chicken! < 1446169599 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have combining accents in my font... I could have sworn I added them noni < 1446169607 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PRECIPITATING CHICKEN < 1446169775 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Apparently with Isochron Scepter, if the imprinted card ceases to be exiled, its activated ability, which says "you may copy the exiled card", has no effect. < 1446169803 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm certain this comes up a lot. < 1446169821 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I expected was that the phrase "the exiled card" would continue to refer to the same card. There's a rule that says something along those lines. < 1446169856 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :But apparently, the phrase "the exiled card" actually no longer refers to anything. < 1446170248 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :What else did I get wrong, here... < 1446170346 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given two continuous effects, if there's nothing else to distinguish them, the later effect overrides the earlier one, not vice versa. < 1446170378 0 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The phrase "you may" does not make a spell or ability modal. < 1446172134 0 :DHeadshot!~IceChat9@cpc15-woki7-2-0-cust635.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1446172579 0 :DHeadshot!~IceChat9@cpc15-woki7-2-0-cust635.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Life without danger is a waste of oxygen < 1446172897 0 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1446174067 0 :codergeek42!~pgordon@2602:306:bc32:ada0:221:6aff:fe68:c87c JOIN :#esoteric < 1446174067 0 :codergeek42!~pgordon@2602:306:bc32:ada0:221:6aff:fe68:c87c QUIT :Changing host < 1446174067 0 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1446174141 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@221-1-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1446174357 0 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1446174472 0 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ftvwoeszsmokzksb QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1446174540 0 :edwardk!sid47016@haskell/developer/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1446174884 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@221-1-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1446174888 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@221-1-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mentioned this earlier but no one seemed to be on < 1446174895 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@221-1-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had an idea for a new Esolib < 1446174903 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@221-1-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Commutative Strings < 1446174939 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@221-1-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cs("abc")+cs("cba"), for example, is equal to the set of strings {"abccba", "cbaabc"} < 1446175102 0 :aretecode!~aretecode@104.156.228.132 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1446175131 0 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qrfaonbrtmxzpgxg JOIN :#esoteric < 1446175329 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am constantly in need of a regex operator with that meaning < 1446175380 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. if the operator was \@ then /foo\@bar/ would match foobar or barfoo < 1446175444 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :without this operator, you have to list all permutations < 1446175453 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a pain! < 1446175788 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you need that for? < 1446176046 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for matching something like (upper left|left upper) < 1446176061 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and various things like that < 1446176179 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :when the user could say two things in either order, but must say both, it's annoying to have to repeat the patter < 1446176204 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1446176254 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trailing space is kind of a problem, isn't it? < 1446176270 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not with our setup < 1446176281 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean with a \@ operator < 1446176291 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. yeah maybe < 1446177059 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@221-1-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Oh! I thought of that AGES ago as the & operator and have been half tempted to figure out who's in charge of standard regexes and suggest it! < 1446178190 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1446178561 0 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I think it's like markdown. So you'd probably petition PCRE first, in my opinion, then the rest of 'em. < 1446178699 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hfgwolbxqjtqwhkv QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1446178748 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : and she can't even tell them to fuck off <-- why, did she die of old age? < 1446178775 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :she died of politeness < 1446178785 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :horrible < 1446178798 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a curse < 1446178826 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION googles and doesn't think she looks old < 1446178842 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although maybe the pictures are < 1446178912 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :she was 39 in matrix 2 https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/f2/4c/b8/f24cb8618f149b878bfc526da8f23883.jpg < 1446178939 0 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1446178947 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION obligatory joke that matrix has no sequel < 1446179070 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rcdfupxbrhouyhwu JOIN :#esoteric < 1446179122 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Yay! New people! <-- but is e confusing limes and lemons < 1446179198 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the difference? < 1446179204 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly wonders what's the term for lemonade, except with limes < 1446179212 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :limenade < 1446179227 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: the difference is that the nick used lemons while our wiki uses limes < 1446179537 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Heverywellone. <-- where did you get the w THAT MAKES NO SENSE < 1446179710 0 :codergeek42!~pgordon@fedora/codergeek42 QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1446180081 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@221-1-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1446180626 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<\oren\> e.g. if the operator was \@ then /foo\@bar/ would match foobar or barfoo <-- the trouble with that notation as an operator is that it doesn't work with more than two < 1446180693 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. foo\@bar\@baz will miss either permutations with foo in the middle or permutations with baz in the middle, dependent on how it parses < 1446180763 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs to be genuinely multi-argument < 1446181133 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would it have to be parsed as (foo\@bar)\@baz < 1446181163 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be like the 0 ć < 1446203656 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, this is still quite a lot. I'm planning to add some extra letters to my keyboard layout, though I haven't quite decided on where exactly to put each letter, but I won't put this many < 1446203684 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :łœŧøþæßðŋħijĸŀ < 1446203840 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm going to put àèìòù to aeiou, âêîôû to áéíóú, and ëï to nm (mnemonic is Noël and maïs), < 1446203849 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's almost pronouncable < 1446203935 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then I need a place for äßøæœç and maybe a few others < 1446203974 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Ithkuil it probably means: “Well, you may want to be having had eated breakfast with an extra fried egg, but the return to the uncommon plains will be a little bit harsher by a rusty bike.” < 1446203992 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/eated/ate/ < 1446204013 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no way. Ithkuil doesn't have a letter ŧ < 1446204021 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet. < 1446204022 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're thinking of that other, more crazy conlang < 1446204038 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one that has like a hundred consonants as well as twelve tones < 1446204041 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(stupid verbs. so many years, and I still can't past tense correctly. my nemesis is "catched" instead of "caught".) < 1446204061 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a crazier one than Ithkuil??? < 1446204062 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I hate some of these irregular verbs too < 1446204071 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: sure, why, what did you think? < 1446204078 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, GG updated... maybe they even have a buffer now? < 1446204102 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it might depend on how complete a language you want, of course. < 1446204110 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Ithkuil is some kind of Planck upper limit on conlang complexity. < 1446204281 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way < 1446204302 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes way < 1446204305 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you sitting here on #esolang and mistify Itgkuil? < 1446204350 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ithkuil is like perl. it has a reputation of line noise among some, but it isn't really that much different from an ordinary conlang. < 1446204379 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: please add Ithkuil glyphs to your font. < 1446204391 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: an extremely compact conlang. < 1446204406 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: meh < 1446204475 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION defiantly glares at b_jonas ”mhngnyeuh!ʼn < 1446204480 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :” < 1446204506 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1446204596 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for compact, there's the stereotypical conlang people try to make where every word is a single syllable, and it can have enough declinations and conjugations that you don't need to use extra grammar words most of the time. but it ends up as a language that has five extra vowels that the language rules claims are really consonants so that they don't increase the syllable count. < 1446204604 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it ends up as a language that has five extra vowels that the language rules claims are really consonants so that they don't increase the syllable count. < 1446204642 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :point. < 1446204657 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically, just y/aeiou/qhxwy/ any word and then it's one syllable < 1446204664 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about a conlang where you are grammatically required to repeat yourself all the time, like in Java < 1446204727 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shall go drown my sorrows by hugging a bottle of grapefruit-scented shampoo. < 1446204733 0 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: COLLECTIVE CHICKEN < 1446204793 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :public class HelloWorld { public static void main(String[] args) { Java isn't really like that, surely. I mean, come on. < 1446204929 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: public static bye () < 1446205124 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many times have you had to write < 1446205130 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :template template::xec_type (typename vecket_xec_detail::xecinteger_crtp::xec_type::*binop)(typename vecket_xec_detail::xecinteger_crtp::xec_type other) const> typename vecket_xec_detail::xecinteger_crtp::uint_t vecket_xec_detail::xecinteger_crtp::reducefull_u() const; < 1446205148 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Java just because the MS compiler is stupid and doesn't understand the declaration you want to write despite that it's completely valid C++? < 1446205199 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1446205248 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I think the third typename there is not needed < 1446205252 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, still < 1446205256 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Java like that? < 1446205329 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in standard C++, that declaration would have to be only three lines long, not four lines. < 1446205344 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the MS compiler is a bitch. < 1446205667 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Java like what? < 1446205724 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does java really have clumsy repetitive syntax like the one MS C requries for that declaration? < 1446205742 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell no < 1446205754 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java is not very repetitive imo < 1446205757 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just verbose < 1446205765 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's just because you can't overload operators < 1446205785 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and because it has no syntax sugar for tuples or lists < 1446205799 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no lambdas < 1446205804 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Java 8 at least introduced lambdas < 1446205805 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1446205880 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/unSpEcsf < 1446205886 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- maybe you'd like to code in this language? < 1446205960 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, is that xslt? < 1446205966 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XML. < 1446205971 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not xslt. < 1446205973 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just plain XML < 1446205998 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it really have to repeat the xmlns url so many times? < 1446206004 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1446206004 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't it do that just once at the top? < 1446206007 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But jaxb does that. < 1446206016 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's a stupid xml writer then < 1446206029 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can declare all namespaces once near the top < 1446206036 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so too, yes. < 1446206125 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using XML to represent the stuff I want to feed to my codegen < 1446206135 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. I'm using XML as an intermediate language ;) < 1446206182 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the wrong way round, XML is meant to be your human-interaction language < 1446206239 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or technically it's the "bytecode" < 1446206245 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also an interpreter which interprets the XML < 1446206246 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... < 1446206248 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :For your intermediate language, make up something new that communicates exactly the set of data that you currently need and nothing more < 1446206850 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Java still has the Foo x = new Foo(...); a.put(x); Foo y = (Foo)a.get(); < 1446207659 0 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1446209244 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1446210217 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1446210238 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1446210327 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1446210634 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1446210634 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@cpc15-croy20-2-0-cust489.croy.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1446210634 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1446211756 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1446211764 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm presenting a talk on esolangs tomorrow < 1446211788 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which, of course, means I need to prepare a talk on esolangs < 1446211793 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the next 25 hours < 1446212086 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@eru162.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1446212131 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just mention Burlesque and you'll be fine ;) < 1446212133 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ad* < 1446212148 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: That's what I meant with "little syntactic sugar support" < 1446212161 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in every other language you could overload [] < 1446212232 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For the next release like 30 new bulit-ins are planned) < 1446212260 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as filterOut < 1446212279 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@define filterOut f xs = filter (not . f) xs < 1446212280 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1446212289 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> filterOut (even) [1..10] < 1446212291 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,3,5,7,9] < 1446212292 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :In every other language, like not C. < 1446212300 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK C < 1446212301 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1446212309 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is a terrible language. < 1446212314 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I don't think you see all that much (Foo)a.get() with generics. < 1446212323 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe sometimes. < 1446212327 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but still bar.get(index) < 1446212338 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or .charAt < 1446212359 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, due to compatibility issues some functions still take Object < 1446212360 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't say I mind that. < 1446212362 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as "equals" < 1446212368 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :equals(Object other) < 1446212390 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I did see the most Java-est method name the other day, I forget what it was. < 1446212391 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which requires a downcast, which produces runtime exceptions < 1446212405 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or an instanceof check and return false if you compare a TcpSocket to a String < 1446212441 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :setCustomerNameAndUpdateDatabaseNow(String name) ? < 1446212443 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, it was the Selenium thing. < 1446212457 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: ExpectedConditions.frameToBeAvailableAndSwitchToIt. < 1446212499 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds weird, because you're meant to use it in a call to 'until' on a variable conventionally named 'wait', so that it reads wait.until(frameToBeAvailableAndSwitchToIt(x)) when you've import static'd the method. < 1446212518 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why I like Java: Cross-platform, Garbage collected < 1446212537 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sadly Java is pretty much the only language that fullfils this role :( < 1446212596 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also wait.until(presenceOfElementLocated(By.foo(bar))); but then somehow it goes wait.until(presenceOfAllElementsLocatedBy(By.foo(bar)); for another method in the same class. < 1446212627 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess whoever wrote the first one uses the By.foo static methods with an 'import By', while whoever wrote the second one static imports them. < 1446212847 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it was named with a specific sentence in mind, why ToBeAvailable? Why not BecomesAvailable, or ArtWhenceforthAvailable < 1446213070 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question. What are the words where the French spelling actually looks _saner_ than the English spelling? One of them is automn, but there was a few other. < 1446213180 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably every french word has a saner spelling than english < 1446213917 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-84-140.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1446214564 0 :aretecode!~aretecode@104.156.228.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1446214768 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@eru162.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1446215509 0 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1446215949 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1446215974 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@ip-89-177-144-144.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1446216962 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1446217050 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1446217404 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1446217518 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#Q(?+)(?*)r~5.-#q5 5?+ < 1446217525 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the nastiest Burlesque-Code I've written so far < 1446217536 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was a drunk regex < 1446217548 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This replaces every occurence of ?+ after the #q with ?* < 1446217643 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not nested occurences though < 1446217653 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, not nested ones < 1446217682 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, what does the 5.- thing do? < 1446217714 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how that even tokeizes < 1446217720 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#Q pushes the remaining code to the stack < 1446217737 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so #Q pushes {(?+)(?*)r~5.-#q5 5?+} to the stack < 1446217773 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then (?+)(?*)r~ runs which replaces ?+ with ?* resulting in {(?*)(?*)r~5.-#q5 5?*} < 1446217781 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then 5.- removes the first 5 tokens < 1446217810 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus removing the code for the replacement from the list < 1446217823 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then #q pops the code from the stack < 1446217832 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which will result in 5 5?* being run < 1446217848 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 5.- produces {#q5 5?*} < 1446217864 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually 6.- works as well) < 1446217868 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how is { 5.- } tokenized? < 1446217868 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#q is a nop if no list is on the stack < 1446217875 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it { 5 .- } < 1446217883 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is { 5. } not a single token? < 1446217887 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :7.- would result in 5?* wich throws an error < 1446217894 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ 5.- }? < 1446217913 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :{5.-} is a block with two elements < 1446217916 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an integer and an identifier < 1446217918 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1446217934 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why is that not tokenized as a floating point literal 5. followed by - which is half a token < 1446217938 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so -# would be the next token < 1446217962 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because floating points require at least one trailing digit < 1446217982 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm ok < 1446217986 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the rule differs from C < 1446217988 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you write 5.- it tries to parse it as float < 1446217993 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that fails because - is not a digit < 1446218001 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it fallsback to try to parse it as an integer < 1446218021 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what @5 is for < 1446218026 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@5 is 5.0 < 1446218026 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: v @ ? . < 1446218038 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you need to write 5.0 you can write @5 because you can't write 5. ;) < 1446218065 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also @'a is an infinite string of a's :) < 1446218077 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@az results in 'a'z < 1446218077 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: wn v rc pl id faq do bf ask arr @ ? . < 1446218106 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Used for ranges like @afr\ which gives you "abcdef" < 1446218132 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice! ok < 1446218141 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you write negative floating point literals? < 1446218153 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean -5.0? < 1446218157 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that < 1446218159 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like that. < 1446218160 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1446218161 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-5.0 < 1446218171 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or @-5 < 1446218174 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are c99 style hex float literals with "p" for base 2 exponent accepted? < 1446218180 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1446218189 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(@-5 is short for -5.0) < 1446218205 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also technically builtins can contain digits or { and } < 1446218220 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, some builtins contain those already < 1446218225 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at lesat digits < 1446218248 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah and there's some parser hackery as well < 1446218251 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c{ is a builtin < 1446218253 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :m{ is not :D < 1446218263 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1446218271 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :m{ IS a built-in if the parser fails < 1446218284 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq ) m{ < 1446218284 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR: Unknown command: (m{) < 1446218291 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq ) m{5} < 1446218291 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR: Burlesque: (m[) Invalid arguments! < 1446218291 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :{5} < 1446218304 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :m{....} is short for {....}m[ < 1446218311 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1446218335 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: BBS < 1446218342 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq ) "m{5}"ps < 1446218343 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :{__INTERNAL__} < 1446218345 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1446218348 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should fix that probably someday < 1446218384 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq ) 2e5 < 1446218392 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1446218395 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no blsq bot right now < 1446218396 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that won't work ;) < 1446218400 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1446218401 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1446218410 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but someone was planning to put one online < 1446218414 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://104.167.104.168/~burlesque/burlesque.cgi < 1446218419 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`blsq 2e5 < 1446218420 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use the online cgi shell < 1446218428 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: blsq: not found < 1446218433 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can put one online < 1446218437 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically < 1446218439 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if int-e allows it :D < 1446218454 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can put it to #esoteric-blah if it'd be too much noise here < 1446218464 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it says 2e5 isn't valid < 1446218464 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could host the blsqbot on int-e's vserver < 1446218464 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange < 1446218469 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2e5 isn't valid < 1446218477 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e5 isn't a known built-in < 1446218499 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1446218546 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1446218549 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 JOIN :#esoteric < 1446218566 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq) 2e5 < 1446218579 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsqbot) 2e5 < 1446218590 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 2e5 < 1446218590 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Unknown command: (e5)! < 1446218590 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 2 < 1446218600 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so how do you write 2e5 then? < 1446218613 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :200000? < 1446218615 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2.5 < 1446218617 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.5 < 1446218622 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2e5 < 1446218623 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 200000.0 < 1446218627 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that :D < 1446218630 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 200000 < 1446218630 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 200000 < 1446218653 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you want me to add e-support? < 1446218683 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can do that :D < 1446218698 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 0x3.0 and 0x3p5 and 0x3.8p5 and 0x3.8p-5 support too probably < 1446218713 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 0xfff < 1446218713 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Burlesque: (ff) Invalid arguments! < 1446218713 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Unknown command: (xf)! < 1446218713 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 0 < 1446218718 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that too < 1446218726 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexadecimal integer support < 1446218740 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be useful for numeric data < 1446218747 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't use blsq so do whatever you want < 1446218910 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 2e5 < 1446218910 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Unknown command: (e5)! < 1446218910 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 2 < 1446218913 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1446218914 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1446218923 0 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1446218947 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 2e5 < 1446218947 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 2 < 1446218951 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1446218952 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm < 1446218953 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1446218973 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? blsqbot < 1446218974 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsqbot is the owner of the bot 'mroman'. < 1446219006 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it's running on my laptop currently ;) < 1446219009 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 2e5 < 1446219009 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 200000 < 1446219012 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah there we go < 1446219014 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done. < 1446219019 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 2e50 < 1446219019 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 200000000000000015259539682183774006589929941893120 < 1446219027 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1446219028 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1446219033 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shouldn't read that to double < 1446219034 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1446219103 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1446219113 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 2e50 < 1446219113 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 200000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 < 1446219117 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :better? < 1446219122 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq @2e50 < 1446219122 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 200000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.0 < 1446219124 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1446219130 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1446219135 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1446219157 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2.5e10 < 1446219158 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you print in %g or %.16e or %a format? < 1446219159 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.5e10 < 1446219168 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 2e-50 < 1446219168 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 50 < 1446219168 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Unknown command: (e-)! < 1446219168 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 2 < 1446219192 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wouldn't make sense for integers anyway or would it... < 1446219219 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you mean like "with 8 trailing zeroes?" < 1446219228 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 2e38rm < 1446219228 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Burlesque: (rm) Invalid arguments! < 1446219228 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 200000000000000000000000000000000000000 < 1446219230 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 2e38RM < 1446219230 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Unknown command: (RM)! < 1446219230 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 200000000000000000000000000000000000000 < 1446219232 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1446219236 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 2e3 8rm < 1446219236 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Burlesque: (rm) Invalid arguments! < 1446219236 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 8 < 1446219236 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 2000 < 1446219243 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq @2e3 8rm < 1446219244 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "2000.00000000" < 1446219246 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1446219318 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq @2e3 8rM < 1446219318 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 2000.00000000 < 1446219321 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that < 1446219345 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq DB < 1446219346 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | < 1446219357 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did maps work again? < 1446219387 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq %:01 2 2 3V < 1446219387 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 3 < 1446219387 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 2 < 1446219387 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 2 < 1446219395 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq %:0 1 2 2 3V < 1446219395 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | <1,2><2,3> < 1446219400 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1446219403 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1446219414 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq %:0 1 2 2 3Vq?imk < 1446219414 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Burlesque (mk): Invalid arguments! < 1446219414 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {?i} < 1446219414 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | <1,2><2,3> < 1446219441 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq %:0 1 2 2 3Vq?ijmk < 1446219441 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {1 2} < 1446219441 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {?i} < 1446219446 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck < 1446219476 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq %:0 1 2 2 3Vmk < 1446219476 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {1 2} < 1446219477 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1446219486 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought map keys would map over the keys < 1446219489 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it returns the keys of the map < 1446219515 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily maps are still undocumented :D < 1446219567 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1446219588 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think vars are still undocumented too < 1446219595 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq %v=1 < 1446219595 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | Ain't nobody got output fo' that! < 1446219606 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq %v=1%v?%v??+ < 1446219606 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 2 < 1446219622 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody needs them for golfing anyway < 1446219628 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just need them for more serious productive things < 1446219638 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1hd#a#a?+ < 1446219638 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 2 < 1446219653 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also in most cases hiding is still shorter < 1446219667 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or using the secondary stack < 1446219704 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 2e- < 1446219704 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Unknown command: (e-)! < 1446219704 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 2 < 1446219714 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the good thing is, 2e- can still be parsed as 2 e- :D < 1446219718 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can make a command e- < 1446219769 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I should probably use maps for builtin lookups < 1446219772 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not a linear search :D < 1446219782 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking up the built-in rM is like O(388) < 1446219836 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wow, http://www.intercaloninterstates.org/ exists < 1446219886 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 2e- < 1446219886 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 0.01 < 1446219889 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 10e- < 1446219889 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 0.0000000001 < 1446219892 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1446219919 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 10.1e- < 1446219920 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 0.00000000007943282347242822 < 1446219990 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq @10.1 < 1446219990 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 10.1 < 1446219990 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | @ < 1446220089 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blqsbot please do quit < 1446220122 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsqbot please do quit < 1446220123 0 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@160.85.232.139 QUIT :Quit: Exiting < 1446220230 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Yeah, I saw that a while ago. < 1446220285 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember reading somewhere that an Intercal compiler managed to break man, does anyone have a source for this? < 1446220319 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man the manpages? < 1446220322 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or man as in mankind? < 1446220333 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :man as in the program to bring up a man page < 1446220573 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is man written in Intercal? < 1446220619 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1446220625 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should write a man page for burlesque :D < 1446220629 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1446220635 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was because the compiler's name was something like "ew, ick" < 1446220771 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-84-140.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1446220776 0 :J_Arcane_!~chatzilla@37-219-84-140.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1446220781 0 :J_Arcane_!?@? NICK :J_Arcane < 1446220806 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rcdfupxbrhouyhwu QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1446221121 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-84-140.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1446222636 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mroman.ch/burlesque/BLSQ.html < 1446222652 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could re-write the documentation in Markdown and export it ilke that. < 1446222669 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages loud < 1446222669 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1446223297 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-84-140.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1446223453 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.default.hacksoc.uk0.bigv.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the minimal loop nesting required to make brainfuck at least in Fancy L? < 1446224064 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :At a glance, 1 is insufficient, and 3 is easily enough. But the case of 2 levels looks challenging. < 1446224269 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we were talking about this once, in the context of how many you need to make it turing-complete < 1446224282 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there was a proof or almost-proof that one bracket is not enough, but I'm not sure < 1446224315 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's certainly a fixed number of levels that are enough, because you can build an interpreter, but I don't know how many levels that is < 1446224318 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-84-140.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1446225306 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may depend on whether it is possible to branch using one level. < 1446225321 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-084-063-181-126.084.063.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1446225356 0 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1446225360 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-164-249.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1446225371 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-164-249.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1446225571 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :LeJIT paper titles. http://www.internetsociety.org/doc/too-lejit-quit-extending-jit-spraying-arm < 1446226263 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1446228225 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Do you have a github account? < 1446228252 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I think I have one lying somewhere, but I don't use it < 1446228267 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I needed one to file bug tickets for something < 1446228268 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody should fork Burlesque so it doesn't get lost in case I decide to delete it again someday. < 1446228290 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do I need a github account for that? < 1446228296 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think forks survive if the original repo is forked. < 1446228300 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I think, yes. < 1446228303 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't they just download a local copy of the repo? < 1446228322 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could do that later today if you want, unless it's too big < 1446228359 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of asking graue to put a snapshot of it into the esofiles < 1446228370 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, whoever runs anagolf probably has a copy < 1446228384 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1446228393 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but possibly only a snapshot, not the whole version history < 1446228395 0 :`^_^!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1446228400 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the version history is gone ;) < 1446228403 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the link? < 1446228412 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/FMNSSun/Burlesque < 1446228417 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so are the version tags etc. < 1446228419 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1446228462 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the commit history has survived < 1446228469 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is weird < 1446228475 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do I need to push tags explictly? < 1446228492 0 :nycs!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1446228516 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah nice < 1446228534 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/FMNSSun/Burlesque/releases < 1446228544 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.7.3 is the one used on anagol < 1446228562 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: then nvm. < 1446228566 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll fork the esofiles < 1446228571 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :add the 1.7.3 zip to it < 1446228577 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and send graue a pull request < 1446228586 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then at least 1.7.3 is correctly archived. < 1446228709 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. v1.0 had 91 built-ins < 1446228709 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1446228714 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 388 now < 1446228759 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. until later. < 1446228763 0 :mroman!~mroman@160.85.232.139 QUIT :Quit: until loter. < 1446228860 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bit late, but a "default" git clone does indeed set things up so that tags aren't pushed by default. < 1446228925 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84767-aztw28-2-0-cust223.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1446229081 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1446230099 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-86.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1446230852 0 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1446231884 0 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1446231887 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-86.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1446232255 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qsnowzvtckfaptrz JOIN :#esoteric < 1446232379 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-86.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1446233192 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-86.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1446235435 0 :mihow!~mihow@50-206-98-70-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1446235957 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1446236209 0 :aretecode!~aretecode@104.156.228.132 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1446236968 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-67.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1446237022 0 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1446237513 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-67.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1446237531 0 :atrapado!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1446238691 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-67.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1446239195 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-67.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1446239214 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1446239467 0 :`^_^!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1446239920 0 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1446241168 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1446241206 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qsnowzvtckfaptrz QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1446241830 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Malbrain14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44989&oldid=44919 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+44) 10Here's a code block inside a ::: -- Oh and reduce the indent on the first message too. < 1446242833 0 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1446243031 0 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1446243115 0 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1446243490 0 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1446243550 0 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1446244236 0 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1446244247 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-063-181-126.084.063.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1446244310 0 :evalj!~jeval@BC066B86.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1446244573 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu QUIT :Quit: That's what she said < 1446244745 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Grin14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=44990&oldid=23530 5* 03Zdimension 5* (+33) 10/* Commands */ Fixed the whole thing (all the specified examples didn't work with the previous spec, now it works) < 1446244993 0 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1446244997 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-67.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1446245127 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-67.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we should branch out and allow the wiki to include esoconlangs... < 1446245134 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-67.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it doesn't specifically ban them, but... < 1446245349 0 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1446245604 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@74-114-87-67.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1446246581 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1446246668 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-zwlmhvzxheidiybn QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1446246811 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-84-140.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1446247102 0 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1446247145 0 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1446247612 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@221-1-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1446249033 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@221-1-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... Stack-based Query Language? < 1446249117 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :sql is eso enough < 1446249127 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1446249191 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a new esolang article in the works... maybe i will finish it tomorrow? < 1446249232 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its more of an actually potentially useful lang that happdlens to be esoteric only because no one knows it < 1446249247 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why tomorrow when you can do it in a week < 1446249582 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-02-1242510774.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wEkend!