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00:59:08 <tswett> Let's look at the latest Clickotron headlines.
00:59:12 <tswett> Some of them are completely plausible.
01:00:23 <tswett> "How To Make A Chocolate Cake"
01:00:24 <tswett> Boring.
01:00:55 <tswett> "We Need To Talk Security"
01:01:01 <tswett> Better.
01:01:46 <tswett> "7 Killed In High-Speed Police Chase On Detroit's East Side"
01:02:27 <tswett> "The Only Thing Our Financial System Can Do Right Now"
01:02:57 <tswett> "How To Choose The Best Makeup For Your Body"
01:03:22 <GoToTell> Happy Birthday, Tanes?
01:03:35 <tswett> "'General Hospital' Clip: The Big Reveal"
01:03:59 <tswett> Hey, it*'s my birthday too.
01:04:05 <tswett> * last Friday
01:04:15 <tswett> "Why Is This The Greatest Song In The World?"
01:04:49 <tswett> "13 Lessons Learned In 2015"
01:05:17 <izabera> hey happy birthday Taneb
01:05:26 <tswett> Here's one that's not completely plausible.
01:05:32 <tswett> "Are Gay Men's Names Running From Your Wedding?"
01:05:33 <Taneb> Thanks izabera
01:05:35 <Taneb> I am now 21
01:06:09 <tswett> See, this is why gay marriage should have stayed illegal in the US. It's resulting in tons of gay men's names running from people's weddings.
01:07:54 <izabera> tswett: winner winner chicken dinner
01:08:38 <izabera> i meant Taneb -.-
01:08:43 <izabera> stupid tab complete
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01:09:51 <shachaf> FireHi
01:10:03 <Taneb> izabera, hehe :)
01:10:35 <FireFly> tjachaf
01:11:03 * FireFly attempts a risky bilingual pun
01:11:25 <shachaf> which languages
01:11:34 <Taneb> English and Lisp
01:11:45 <FireFly> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tja#Interjection_5
01:13:16 <FireFly> So what're you up to this fine evening?
01:14:06 <shachaf> oh
01:14:10 <shachaf> i was looking at norwegian
01:14:28 <shachaf> @time FireFly
01:15:40 <fizzie> Finnish has "tjaa" as an interjection, but we pronounce it completely differently from sv:tja, and it only has the etymology 2 from that link.
01:16:03 <lambdabot> Local time for FireFly is Tue, 03 Nov 2015 02:16:02 +0100
01:16:03 <shachaf> svizzie
01:16:22 <shachaf> FireFly: local time for FireFly is very delayed hth
01:17:05 <FireFly> FireFly happens to be IRCing through a bouncer with some latency issues
01:17:51 <FireFly> fizzie: the two "tja"s have different pronounciation; the second one has a long 'a' for us as well (although perhaps the 'tj' part is differennt, too?)
01:19:25 <fizzie> Yes, it doesn't have a /ɕ/ at all. I think it's literally just /tj/.
01:20:16 <fizzie> It's also sufficiently informal to not be in Wiktionary at all, apparently.
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01:21:03 <FireFly> Ah
01:22:13 <shachaf> fizzie: is it like ть?
01:22:17 <shachaf> tjwh
01:23:51 <fizzie> shachaf: I don't remember what that's like, if I ever knew.
01:24:26 <fizzie> Apparently the Appendix E of the Finnish translation uses it as the example of the Westron consonant TV, if that helps.
01:24:46 <fizzie> Uh, TY.
01:25:10 <fizzie> "TY marks a combination that was likely pronunced like tj in Finnish tjaa5. It originated usually from c or the combination t + y. The speakers of Westron usually replaced this with the tš-sound common in their language", writes someone at a forum, translating Appendix E of the Finnish translation.
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01:25:35 <fizzie> My copy of the books is back in Finland.
01:25:48 <shachaf> should i go to finland
01:25:59 <fizzie> Sorry, we've locked the doors.
01:26:03 <fizzie> You can't get at the books.
01:26:18 <shachaf> what about the rest of finland
01:26:30 <fizzie> That's probably still open.
01:28:05 <fizzie> I'll probably have to go to Finland for the defense early next year.
01:29:57 <shachaf> uh oh
01:30:04 <shachaf> being invaded again?
01:30:36 <fizzie> Yes, by a still unnamed opponent.
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01:40:16 <tswett> Stuff I got wrong. A creature with toughness 0 isn't destroyed as a state-based action; it spontaneously dies instead. If a damage shield depends on a quality of the source (e.g. "Prevent all damage a red source of your choice would deal this turn") and that source's quality changes, the shield no longer applies until the quality changes back.
01:40:37 <tswett> Also the layer system.
01:40:45 <tswett> I guess that's the next thing I'll have to study.
01:45:14 <zzo38> How many rules you don't understand?
01:46:30 <zzo38> I already know that toughness 0 or less is not destroy, it is just placed into graveyard as a state based action. It is destroyed by too much damage or deathtouch damage though as a state base action
01:47:07 <tswett> I haven't counted the rules that I don't understand.
01:55:53 <hppavilion[2]> I kind of want to make a low-level computercraft minecraft mod
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02:18:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Microscript]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45069&oldid=44921 * SuperJedi224 * (-2) /* Example programs */
02:29:11 <zzo38> What is your opinions of some of the effect that would be cause by R&D's Secret Lair? Many people write the comment but I think some are wrong and/or incompleted.
02:30:41 <zzo38> Someone mentioned it would allow the old Lightning Bolt card to target a land. But, I think it could also target cards in opponent's hand, activated abilities on the stack that haven't yet resolved, the command zone, etc. I think even you could damage all non-token creatures/planeswalkers with one spell.
02:45:30 <shachaf> Is there a way to give the command zone shroud?
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02:55:19 <zzo38> I don't think so.
03:00:19 <zzo38> A zone can't have abilities, I think.
03:00:45 <zzo38> I expect such an effect would give the shroud ability to each card in the command zone.
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03:16:03 <zzo38> Please tell me if I missed one answer
03:21:41 <shachaf> One answer in what?
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03:26:29 <zzo38> I was disconnected due to error
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03:41:36 <coppro> is scapegoat going to be a thing?
03:41:39 <coppro> I had an idea for it
03:47:05 <zzo38> What kind of idea?
03:47:23 <coppro> to allow one revision to actually be a sequence of revisions
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04:34:12 <Sgeo> "Format returns a textual representation of the time value formatted according to layout, which defines the format by showing how the reference time, defined to be
04:34:13 <Sgeo> Mon Jan 2 15:04:05 -0700 MST 2006
04:34:13 <Sgeo> would be displayed if it were the value"
04:34:18 <Sgeo> https://golang.org/pkg/time/#Time.Format
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04:53:09 <lifthrasiir> Sgeo: I kind of don't like that.
04:53:36 <Sgeo> Saw it referenced on lolphp, and that was linked to by gobashing
04:56:14 <lifthrasiir> Sgeo: as an alternative way for formatting dates, fine. as a sole way for formatting dates, no way.
04:57:14 <Sgeo> https://www.reddit.com/r/lolphp/comments/3q3ktc/as_befits_php_it_uses_something_that_looks_the/cwcs1ce
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10:08:59 <izabera> https://www.codeeval.com/open_challenges/44/ i finally submitted a bash entry that fits in the 10s timeout
10:09:13 <izabera> just wanted to ask: is there a way that doesn't require to generate all the list?
10:10:22 <izabera> fwiw my code is this http://arin.ga/kEbDKA/raw
10:13:28 <lifthrasiir> izabera: yes. it is possible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permutation#Generation_in_lexicographic_order
10:13:49 <izabera> oooh
10:14:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Bexandre/Attic]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45070&oldid=45066 * Bexandre * (-12)
10:14:09 <izabera> thank you :o
10:14:21 <lifthrasiir> actually, there are three levels of possible permutations
10:14:39 <lifthrasiir> the first level is the length of resulting sequence
10:14:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Bexandre/Attic]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45071&oldid=45070 * Bexandre * (+3) /* Syntax */
10:15:38 <lifthrasiir> the second level is the position of excess 0s (if there are two 0s and three other digits, say, the list is *00** *0*0* *0**0 **00* **0*0 ***00)
10:15:59 <lifthrasiir> the final, third level is the relative position of remaining digits
10:16:09 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Bexandre/Attic]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45072&oldid=45071 * Bexandre * (-2)
10:16:14 <lifthrasiir> the second and third levels can be implemented with the same algorithm
10:16:54 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Bexandre/Attic]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45073&oldid=45072 * Bexandre * (+1)
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10:25:01 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Bexandre/Attic]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45074&oldid=45073 * Bexandre * (+220)
10:26:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Bexandre/Attic]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45075&oldid=45074 * Bexandre * (+4735) /* Syntax */
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10:27:51 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Bexandre/Attic]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45076&oldid=45075 * Bexandre * (-85)
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11:15:48 <mroman> fnǫrd
11:15:59 <mroman> fungot: fnǫrd?
11:15:59 <fungot> mroman: 120 l 1 to 8 unique mobs can be interrogated to implement display changes outside the quotes. when the routine
11:16:31 <mroman> fungot: Ok, do the interrogation.
11:16:31 <fungot> mroman: if bit 2 is opened.
11:16:41 <mroman> fungot: then...?
11:16:41 <fungot> mroman: poke 53270,peek(53270)or 16 note: the test bit, and left functions are always located at 65126 ( fe66).
11:16:48 <mroman> ^style
11:16:48 <fungot> Available: agora alice c64* ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
11:17:01 <mroman> ^style youtube
11:17:01 <fungot> Selected style: youtube (Some YouTube comments)
11:17:09 <mroman> fungot: How's the interrogation going?
11:17:09 <fungot> mroman: ok, we have to mount an attack on us. we have definite evidence that airbus' record is immaculate against boeings poor show, you can't fly a huge stake in the reasoning.
11:17:24 <mroman> o_O
11:19:14 <olsner> fungot
11:19:14 <fungot> olsner: i agree about the lizard ad was by far the biggest sell-out since me! but now she seems happier. 3) why is it
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11:28:01 <mroman> Yeah, that damn lizard ad was a real sell-out.
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11:28:43 <mroman> fungot: But I'm glad she feels happier now.
11:28:43 <fungot> mroman: my favorite player) go steelers yaay! the terrorrists in iraq and stuff.
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11:32:18 <mroman> fungot: could you stop saying things that trigger NSABot?
11:32:18 <fungot> mroman: yes but she got spunk that inspires all over the pure genius of this you will get no respect justin timberlake
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11:37:20 <boily> fungot: ew.
11:37:21 <fungot> boily: finally a snow game", " song title is " box" tho. if you consider all of it
11:37:52 <boily> fungot: I mean, ew.
11:37:52 <fungot> boily: trailer, i did... but i stand corrected. it was
11:38:03 <boily> fungot: really, ew.
11:38:03 <fungot> boily: no it wasnt trying to do is sit and watch videos all day long, and had his licence withdrawn by air france
11:38:20 <boily> fungot: I do hope your license was revoked! you perv!
11:38:20 <fungot> boily: and that's why i dont want naked avril on my face right now or you may think you are
11:38:28 <boily> fungot: aaaaargh!
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12:09:01 <fizzie> boily: What, you don't like the hit song Box?
12:13:19 <boily> fizziello. it's a dick song.
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12:46:08 <b_jonas> `wisdom
12:46:11 <HackEgo> antediluvian/We could tell you what antediluvian means, but that would just open a flood of questions.
12:46:21 <b_jonas> `wisdom more
12:46:22 <HackEgo> find: `wisdom/*more*': No such file or directory \ /cat: : No such file or directory
12:46:26 <b_jonas> `wisdom
12:46:27 <HackEgo> brainf**k/There is no such thing as brainf**k. You may be thinking of brainfuck.
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12:57:42 <tswett> `? scow
12:57:43 <HackEgo> scow? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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13:20:45 <int-e> would a cow in s-expressions ne canned meat?
13:20:51 <int-e> s/ne/be/
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13:54:51 <oerjan> `? gnimmargorp
13:54:52 <HackEgo> ​"Gnimmargorp" er algeng stafsetningarvilla af "grimmargorp".
13:55:07 <oerjan> `? grimmargorp
13:55:08 <HackEgo> ​Þór, Grimmargorpurinn hefur sloppið! Ragnarök eru nálæg!
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14:00:43 <oerjan> `learn Scow (S-cow) is canned meat made from cows with a lisp.
14:00:45 <HackEgo> Learned 'scow': Scow (S-cow) is canned meat made from cows with a lisp.
14:00:49 <oerjan> int-e: IT IS NOW
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14:01:31 <int-e> the lisp is a nice twist.
14:01:49 <oerjan> THMOO
14:02:51 <int-e> the hat moos over oysters?
14:03:01 <oerjan> thmaybe.
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14:20:57 <myname> wtf gnimmargorp
14:21:08 <myname> i mean, i get the word
14:21:19 <myname> just not the wisdom
14:21:35 <oerjan> icelandic can be hard.
14:22:11 <oerjan> although it's really just "grimmargorp sounds a like a monster from norse mythology"
14:32:37 <oerjan> *-a
14:43:10 <b_jonas> `?
14:43:10 <HackEgo> ​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
14:43:36 <b_jonas> fungot, how do you turn the browser plugin off?
14:43:36 <fungot> b_jonas: the lmao add too ignorant, continue to be around. ever noticed how, when did this confuse the shit
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14:54:51 <mroman> fungot: FNOOOOORD
14:54:52 <fungot> mroman: you could hear the engines didn t respond and in 1988 and the crystal ball and the promotion and the promotion and the aircraft and didn't have half the charisma as in your comment
14:55:04 <mroman> `? ethanol
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14:55:05 <HackEgo> ethanol? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
14:55:54 <mroman> `learn Ethanol is a Group 1 carcinogenic substance since 1988.
14:55:55 <HackEgo> Learned 'ethanol': Ethanol is a Group 1 carcinogenic substance since 1988.
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15:29:16 <Taneb> Important question:
15:29:24 <Taneb> What is thirst supposed to feel like?
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15:33:05 <b_jonas> fungot, what does thirst feel like?
15:33:05 <fungot> b_jonas: 3 people.
15:33:06 <quintopia> like being dry
15:33:15 <b_jonas> fungot, what sohuld thirst feel like?
15:33:15 <fungot> b_jonas: aircraft type airbus a320 operated by remote control test toy ever. i'll definitely be picking up your album!
15:33:20 <quintopia> sometimes accompanied by a bad taste
15:33:51 <Taneb> Because I don't think I've ever felt that. It's just suddenly it feels like someone's wrapped a sheet around my brain
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15:39:27 <b_jonas> fungot, what is the capacity of that new super passenger airplane?
15:39:27 <fungot> b_jonas: you people? it's a good job!
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15:40:25 <quintopia> well dehydration feels different from thirst
15:44:32 <Taneb> Yeah, I think I just skip to dehydration and it sukcs
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16:33:41 <mroman> Taneb: It's impossible to describe feelings to somebody who never had them.
16:33:49 <mroman> also... it's useless to describe feelings to someone who has them
16:34:30 <b_jonas> fungot, can you describe the feeling of hearing the description of a feeling you never have for the first time?
16:34:30 <fungot> b_jonas: im not gonna happen...u must b brain dead...
16:34:38 <b_jonas> I guess
16:35:18 <mroman> :D
16:38:21 <MDude> I'm not sure if it would be entirely impossible.
16:39:42 <MDude> But if it's not, the language needed to convey that emotion probably isn't obvious.
16:41:45 <b_jonas> MDude: you have to be a very good poet or writer for it, basically
16:45:01 <MDude> The hard part if fidning people who haven't experience a feeling and then deciding how to test their understanding without putting them in a situation where they'd feel the emotion.
16:45:28 <MDude> Since that would spoil the whole test of how well you explained it to them.
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17:08:33 <zzo38> I think now I thought of how you could make up a kind of vertical hyphenation with TeX.
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17:17:49 <mroman> It's liking describing colours to a blind person since birth.
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17:18:06 <mroman> Or music to a deaf person.
17:18:11 <mroman> I don't think it can be done.
17:18:22 <mroman> No matter what language.
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17:23:19 <b_jonas> fungot: how would you describe the octarine color?
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17:23:45 <b_jonas> `? octarine
17:23:46 <HackEgo> octarine? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
17:25:36 <zzo38> I think you can describe music for deaf people, although they cannot hear it and therefore don't understand as good as people who hear the music, but it can still be explained (but an explanation is not sufficient to understand music properly).
17:26:06 <zzo38> Colours too could be explained to some degree, although still it is not sufficient to understand them.
17:26:22 <zzo38> Partially understanding is possible, though
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17:35:58 <FreeFull> zzo38: I think eyesight really is something that needs to be experienced to be really understood
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17:36:53 <FreeFull> There are cases of people who have been born blind, but then surgery later in their life made them able to see
17:38:45 <b_jonas> ` x=bin/datei; >"$x" $'#!/bin/sh\nexec date --rfc-3=n "$@"' && chmod a+x "$x"
17:38:46 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found
17:38:52 <b_jonas> `` x=bin/datei; >"$x" $'#!/bin/sh\nexec date --rfc-3=n "$@"' && chmod a+x "$x"
17:38:54 <HackEgo> bash: #!/bin/sh \ exec date --rfc-3=n "$@": No such file or directory
17:39:03 <b_jonas> `` x=bin/datei; >"$x" echo $'#!/bin/sh\nexec date --rfc-3=n "$@"' && chmod a+x "$x"
17:39:06 <b_jonas> argh
17:39:07 <HackEgo> No output.
17:39:10 <b_jonas> `datei
17:39:10 <HackEgo> 2015-11-03 17:38:44.291844000+00:00
17:39:13 <b_jonas> that, yes
17:39:32 <mroman> Well you can state that the human eye is capable of distinguishing different materials etc. by what light they refract
17:39:35 <mroman> and such and such
17:43:06 <b_jonas> fungot?
17:43:13 <b_jonas> oh right, fungot hates me again
17:43:40 <mroman> yeah
17:43:47 <mroman> u brain dead
17:43:51 <zzo38> FreeFull: Yes it is what I meant you need to be experience to be really understood, otherwise it can onlty to vbe the partial understanding.
17:44:09 <b_jonas> he's not alone. geordi hates me as well.
17:44:16 <b_jonas> no wait, not geordi
17:44:18 <b_jonas> that other bot
17:44:22 <b_jonas> whatsitsname
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17:51:01 <GoToTell> Worf?
17:52:32 <Taneb> I don't think Worf or Geordi are robots
17:52:49 <mroman> rowbots.
17:53:28 <mroman> I heard google was working on rowbots for rowboats.
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17:58:52 <b_jonas> GoToTell: no
17:59:35 <b_jonas> `? elder
17:59:36 <HackEgo> elder? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
17:59:39 <b_jonas> `? mystic
17:59:40 <HackEgo> mystic? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
17:59:47 <b_jonas> `? homeopaty
17:59:48 <HackEgo> homeopaty? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
17:59:50 <b_jonas> `? homeophoby
17:59:51 <HackEgo> homeophoby? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
18:05:01 <GoToTell> '? holistic
18:05:07 <GoToTell> `? holistic
18:05:08 <HackEgo> holistic? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
18:05:19 <GoToTell> `? reductionism
18:05:20 <HackEgo> reductionism? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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18:47:17 <int-e> `? myth
18:47:18 <HackEgo> A myth is a female moth.
18:47:26 <izabera> why
18:47:45 <int-e> `? wisdom
18:47:46 <HackEgo> wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø?
18:48:22 <int-e> izabera: I don't think that there has to be a reason. It sounds amusing anyway.
18:48:30 <int-e> `? mythology
18:48:31 <HackEgo> Mythology is the study of myths, moths and mirths.
18:52:21 <b_jonas> `? train
18:52:21 <HackEgo> train? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
18:52:27 <b_jonas> `? purl
18:52:28 <HackEgo> purl? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
18:52:32 <b_jonas> `? php
18:52:33 <HackEgo> php is the PigeonHole Principle
18:52:48 <myname> :D
19:02:44 <FreeFull> `? perl
19:02:44 <HackEgo> Perl is the Perfect Emacs Rewriting Language
19:02:49 <FreeFull> `? awk
19:02:50 <HackEgo> awk? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
19:02:59 <FreeFull> Someone come up with a good entry for awk now
19:08:27 <hppavilion[1]> FreeFull: We could make a chicken joke, but that doesn't sound very good
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19:10:18 <FreeFull> hppavilion[1]: perl-- joke?
19:10:24 <hppavilion[1]> Perhaps
19:12:03 <FreeFull> I don't think that'd be very good either
19:12:42 <FreeFull> `apropos awk | head -n1`
19:12:42 <FreeFull> awk (1p) - pattern scanning and processing language
19:12:42 <HackEgo> apropos: can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/manpath.config
19:13:04 <FreeFull> Woops, didn't mean to trigger HackEgo
19:13:41 <int-e> `? awkward
19:13:42 <HackEgo> awkward? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
19:15:37 <FreeFull> `wisdom awk pattern scanning and processing language
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19:15:38 <HackEgo> find: `wisdom/*awk pattern scanning and processing language*': No such file or directory \ /cat: : No such file or directory
19:15:49 <FreeFull> `wisdom x
19:15:51 <HackEgo> xargs/xargs is for piping snowmen.
19:16:46 <int-e> . o O ( `learn Awkward is one of the cardinal directions, the others being grepward, sedward and perlward. )
19:43:01 <FireFly> `? grep
19:43:02 <HackEgo> grep? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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20:02:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Language list]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45077&oldid=44875 * Bexandre * (+10) /* A */
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20:38:36 <FreeFull> `? æ
20:38:37 <HackEgo> ​æ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
20:38:39 <FreeFull> `? HackEgo
20:38:40 <HackEgo> HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing.
20:39:17 <b_jonas> `? ű
20:39:18 <HackEgo> ​ű? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
20:39:37 <b_jonas> `? ☃
20:39:38 <HackEgo> ​☃? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
20:40:02 <nchambers> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
20:41:40 <zzo38> Other idea of Magic: the Gathering cards can be cards that change their power, toughness, abilities, or other stuff depending on how much damage is marked on it.
20:42:02 <nchambers> I think they already kind of have that
20:42:49 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Licorne]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45078 * Bexandre * (+1291) Created page with "'''[http://www.mediafire.com/download/8hapxc00za591ja/LicornePL.zip Licorne]''', also known as '''LicornePL''', litteraly "Unicorn", is an [[interpreter|interpreted]] esoter..."
20:43:38 <zzo38> (For example, enchanted creature gets +1/-1 per point of damage marked on it; or, exchange amount of damage marked on this creature with damage marked on target creature, or something else)
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20:45:01 <zzo38> Or, a card whose toughness is decreased by the amount of mana in your mana pool
20:46:43 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Licorne]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45079&oldid=45078 * Bexandre * (+120)
20:47:09 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Licorne]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45080&oldid=45079 * Bexandre * (+10)
20:49:38 <zzo38> (Generally your mana pool would be empty when state-based effect are checked but in some cases it will not be, including if you do it deliberately)
20:52:42 <b_jonas> zzo38: Omnath, Locus of Mana does something like that
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20:54:01 <zzo38> Yes, that is one thing done with it but there are other possibilities too, such as +1/-1 and does not prevent mana from evaporating, or it can be an enchantment, or whatever else
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20:57:30 <zzo38> "~ has all colors of mana in your mana pool."
20:58:22 <zzo38> (Or, has protection from such colors; or, could have both)
20:58:55 <zzo38> If both, then it won't be protected from itself while your mana pool contains no colored mana.
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21:05:05 <b_jonas> zzo38: as for damage marked, no cards do the kind of things you mentioned. there are lots of cards with regeneration, indestructible, and totem armor, plus at least one more card that removes damage marked,
21:05:29 <b_jonas> and one strange card that refers to damage marked to change when that damage destroys it: Ogre Enforcer.
21:05:36 <b_jonas> but nothing of the sort you've mentioned.
21:09:40 <b_jonas> good news: the mod:// shortcut didn't support giving a fragment part, so we're not breaking anything.
21:13:25 <b_jonas> ah, wrong channel, ignore last line
21:17:41 -!- int-e has set topic: The right channel. | You has indestructible. | ɛ̃ˈglɪʃ spɛˈliŋ ʀɘfɔʀm/ | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://esolangs.org/.
21:18:05 <int-e> `? left
21:18:06 <HackEgo> left? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
21:18:15 <int-e> `? right
21:18:16 <HackEgo> Right is not two wrongs but three lefts.
21:18:44 <int-e> . o O ( that would make left 1/3 right )
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21:39:06 <int-e> . o O ( Sacrifice target player: add 1 black mana to your mana pool. )
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21:53:46 <int-e> of course, this joke's been done... http://www.hipstersofthecoast.com/2014/09/scrub-report-variations/
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22:59:12 <zzo38> "Sacrifice target player" is not possible of course. One is, it is not a permanent (unless using a variant rule I made up); other is, a cost can't target stuff as far as I know (although it should still be possible; the target must be chosen before the cost is paid)
23:01:19 <shachaf> You announce targets before you pay costs, right?
23:01:24 <shachaf> Well, you'd have to for strive etc.
23:01:37 <shachaf> So why can't the costs refer to the targets?
23:01:49 <zzo38> Yes, that is why I say it should still be possible.
23:01:55 <zzo38> Nevertheless I have not seen stuff like that
23:02:02 <shachaf> In fact strive does have a cost that refers to targets.
23:02:09 <shachaf> Oh, I didn't read the part in parentheses.
23:02:31 <shachaf> A cost can certainly refer to targets.
23:03:44 <zzo38> But does a cost target stuff; that is a bit different? Nevertheless it does not seem to be prohibited by the rules.
23:04:52 <shachaf> ell, I didn't see the context.
23:05:01 <shachaf> W
23:05:12 <shachaf> But I see what you mean, there's no good phrasing to make it work.
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23:12:37 <int-e> zzo38: I guess it should say "sacrifice a player:" instead of using the "target" keyword; this is in line with existing "sacrifice a <foo>:" costs.
23:12:58 <shachaf> Yes, that's the usual phrasing.
23:13:16 <shachaf> If it said "sacrifice another player:", would that indicate a player other than its controller?
23:16:49 <zzo38> Yes, but you would still have to control that other player I think.
23:16:59 <zzo38> And anyways the other player is not a permanent so it doesn't work anyways
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23:28:58 <oerjan> Taneb: happy birthday!
23:29:02 <Taneb> :D
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23:30:46 <oerjan> alexandrei
23:32:09 <int-e> tick
23:32:10 <int-e> tock
23:32:43 <int-e> (personally I hate those annual reminders that time is passing, that the clock is constantly ticking)
23:32:46 <oerjan> tack
23:34:08 <shachaf> `? time
23:34:09 <HackEgo> time? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
23:34:50 <int-e> Time is an illusion; lunch time, doubly so. (D.Adams, modulo memory faults)
23:36:45 <int-e> Mostly punctuation. "Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so."
23:37:36 <int-e> And I forgot the reply. '"Very deep," said Arthur, "you should send that in to the Reader's Digest. They've got a page for people like you."'
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23:37:56 <shachaf> which page?
23:40:15 <int-e> I don't know. It's in the beginning of volume 1 around the point Earth gets destroyed; Ford has just ordered Arthur 3 pints of beer.
23:40:41 <Jafet> The Earth gets destroyed in the Reader's Digest?
23:40:56 <int-e> Jafet: Perhaps.
23:41:08 <int-e> Jafet: But this is about the Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
23:42:42 <Taneb> int-e: shachaf may have been talking about the page for people like Ford
23:42:49 <Taneb> I'd go with the obituraries
23:43:02 <Taneb> Does the Readers' Digest have obituraries?
23:43:04 <int-e> Taneb: hmm, didn't think of that
23:43:05 <fizzie> We've got (well, had; I think the roof collapsed where they were) some old (1950s?) issues of the Reader's Digest fi-localized version (Valitut Palat).
23:43:16 <fizzie> I remember they had lots of predictions for the future.
23:43:37 <fizzie> We're past all those dates, and for some reason not quite all cities are enclosed in bubbles yet.
23:44:12 <int-e> Instead we have Google bubbles, Apple buggles; I'm sure there are Bing bubbles as well...
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23:45:16 <hppavilion[1]> I had an idea for a usable language I'm designing
23:45:47 <int-e> Ah yes, Douglas Adams again. "I really didn't foresee the Internet. But then, neither did the computer industry. Not that that tells us very much of course--the computer industry didn't even foresee that the century was going to end."
23:46:05 <oerjan> :D
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23:47:50 <oerjan> `? ☃
23:47:51 <HackEgo> ​☃? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
23:47:51 <hppavilion[1]> int-e: xD
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23:49:44 <hppavilion[1]> I'm calling the idea Assignment Overloading. It's stupid, and potentially useless, but would lead to some fun programming things and interesting new design patterns
23:49:46 <oerjan> `le/rn ☃/Frosty the Snowman / had a very shiny nose / And everywhere that Frosty went / the nose was sure to go.
23:49:48 <HackEgo> Learned «⸃»
23:49:58 <oerjan> oops
23:50:07 <hppavilion[1]> Good job.
23:50:12 <oerjan> `? ☃
23:50:13 <HackEgo> Frosty the Snowman / had a very shiny nose / And everywhere that Frosty went / the nose was sure to go.
23:50:16 <hppavilion[1]> Huh
23:50:19 <oerjan> oh well, it worked.
23:50:22 <hppavilion[1]> Weird
23:50:34 <oerjan> `cat le/rn
23:50:35 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/bash \ [[ "$1" = */* ]] || exit \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | cut -d / -f 1) \ [ -z "$topic" ] && exit 1 \ value=$(echo "$1" | cut -d / -f 2-) \ echo "$value" > wisdom/"$topic" && echo "Learned «$topic»"
23:51:11 <oerjan> `unidecode «⸃»
23:51:13 <HackEgo> ​[U+00AB LEFT-POINTING DOUBLE ANGLE QUOTATION MARK] [U+2E03 RIGHT SUBSTITUTION BRACKET] [U+00BB RIGHT-POINTING DOUBLE ANGLE QUOTATION MARK]
23:51:35 <oerjan> `file le/rn
23:51:37 <HackEgo> le/rn: symbolic link to `../bin/slashlearn'
23:51:45 <oerjan> `file bin/slashlearn
23:51:45 <HackEgo> bin/slashlearn: Bourne-Again shell script, UTF-8 Unicode text executable
23:53:25 <int-e> `` echo ☃ | lowercase
23:53:26 <HackEgo> ​⸃
23:53:35 <oerjan> huh
23:53:45 <oerjan> `cat bin/lowercase
23:53:46 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/bash \ tr A-ZØ a-zø
23:54:26 <oerjan> ^ord ☃
23:54:27 <fungot> 226 152 131
23:54:34 <oerjan> ^ord Ø
23:54:34 <fungot> 195 152
23:54:43 <oerjan> ic
23:54:56 <int-e> ^ord ⸃
23:54:56 <fungot> 226 184 131
23:55:05 <int-e> ^ord ø
23:55:05 <fungot> 195 184
23:56:09 <oerjan> `` sed -i '2ctr A-Z a-z' bin/lowercase
23:56:11 <HackEgo> No output.
23:56:16 <oerjan> `cat bin/lowercase
23:56:17 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/bash \ tr A-Z a-z
23:56:34 <int-e> `? Ørjan
23:56:35 <HackEgo> ​Ørjan? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
23:56:45 <int-e> `? ørjan
23:56:46 <HackEgo> ​Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers.
23:56:56 <oerjan> `cat bin/?
23:56:56 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "$topic1" = "ngevd" \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; \
23:57:13 <int-e> `ln -s ørjan wisdom/Ørjan
23:57:14 <HackEgo> ln: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ln --help' for more information.
23:57:22 <int-e> `` ln -s ørjan wisdom/Ørjan
23:57:23 <HackEgo> No output.
23:57:27 <oerjan> oh right it accidentally *would* have worked previously
23:57:30 <oerjan> hm...
23:57:40 <oerjan> int-e: i have a better idea
23:57:44 <int-e> `` mv wisdom/⸃ wisdom/☃
23:57:47 <HackEgo> No output.
23:58:06 <oerjan> `cat bin/lowercase
23:58:06 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/bash \ tr A-Z a-z
23:58:12 <shachaf> `` sed 's/Z/ZØ/; s/z/zø/' bin/lowercase
23:58:12 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/bash \ tr A-ZØ a-zø
23:58:15 <shachaf> `` sed -i 's/Z/ZØ/; s/z/zø/' bin/lowercase
23:58:16 <HackEgo> No output.
23:58:17 <shachaf> hth
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23:58:32 <oerjan> shachaf: um that's precisely what we *undid* you fool
23:58:37 <shachaf> oh
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23:58:46 <shachaf> look i wasn't paying attention to all that scrollback
23:58:48 <shachaf> `revert
23:58:54 <HackEgo> rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done.
23:59:01 <oerjan> `cat bin/lowercase
23:59:01 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/bash \ tr A-Z a-z
23:59:07 <int-e> `? canary
23:59:08 <HackEgo> Spjætt!
23:59:28 <shachaf> oerjan: my screen is so messed up from all these unicode characters that i can barely tell what's going on in here tdnh
23:59:36 <oerjan> `` sed -i "s/z/z | sed 's/Ø/ø/g'" bin/lowercase
23:59:36 <HackEgo> sed: -e expression #1, char 16: unknown option to `s'
23:59:41 <oerjan> eek
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