< 1450570149 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1450570427 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1450570570 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One could make a DSL specifically for Magic: the Gathering. < 1450570739 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1450571860 0 :jaboja64!~jaboja@esb57.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1450572016 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1450572085 0 :triggerwarning!~IGLC@2601:681:500:165a:18e3:925d:1b23:6980 JOIN :#esoteric < 1450572087 0 :dcentral!~IGLC@2601:681:500:165a:18e3:925d:1b23:6980 JOIN :#esoteric < 1450572365 0 :triggerwarning!~IGLC@2601:681:500:165a:18e3:925d:1b23:6980 QUIT :Changing host < 1450572365 0 :triggerwarning!~IGLC@unaffiliated/triggerwarning JOIN :#esoteric < 1450573050 0 :dcentral!~IGLC@2601:681:500:165a:18e3:925d:1b23:6980 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1450573050 0 :triggerwarning!~IGLC@unaffiliated/triggerwarning QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1450573072 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1450573477 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1450573962 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, Firefox is disabling unsigned addons < 1450573976 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, the addon in question is a private one that I wrote for my own use, and isn't signed for obvious reasons < 1450574344 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1450576075 0 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1450576869 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@esb57.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1450577313 0 :bb010g!uid21050@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ocmroiywnmjwofik QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1450577586 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another NN-generated wisdom database entry: < 1450577587 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:41:54: tapebacklogs are a Chu space of something you don't know if it is probably not because I don't know. < 1450577641 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :An interesting exclamation: < 1450577642 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:54:10: holy side of the right name < 1450577654 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Holy side of the right name, Batman!" < 1450577655 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the corpus? just wisdom and quotes? < 1450577697 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the #esoteric logs from... < 1450577708 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might have been from the beginning of 2014 up to the time that I downloaded the logs. < 1450577710 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good, logs are going to be much better for this sort of thing < 1450577727 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the people doing neural network M:tG cards figured out a way to seed the network < 1450577740 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. you give it the start of a message, and it completes it for you < 1450577767 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's been a feature of Karpathy's char-rnn from the very beginning. < 1450577782 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have some weather... < 1450577783 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:55:53: LOWI 051750Z AUTO 14001KT 10SM FEW080 SCT064 BKN030 95/18 A2960 RMK CU1 CI TR SLP267 < 1450578025 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. Date is the 5th, time is 17:50 UTC. Wind is from 140, at a speed of one knot. Visibility is ten miles. Few clouds at 8,000 feet above ground, scattered clouds at 6,400 feet, and broken clouds at 3,000 feet. < 1450578036 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The temperature is 95 degrees Celsius, holy shit. < 1450578094 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dew point is 18 degrees Celsius. < 1450578278 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't find a meaning on Wikipedia for CU1. < 1450578336 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an incredibly arid climate < 1450578384 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, it's apparently cloud coverage. Only one okta cloud coverage, despite the broken and other cloud layers. < 1450578452 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't find a meaning for CI or TR either. < 1450578466 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sea-level pressure is 267 of something. < 1450578534 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYZ < 1450578535 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 200200Z 26012G18KT 15SM OVC045 M02/M09 A3026 RMK SC8 SLP256 < 1450578544 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar LOWI < 1450578545 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 200220Z AUTO 05003KT 350V110 4600 FZBR FEW001 M01/M01 Q1025 < 1450578641 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, let's see. Altimeter setting is 29.60 inches mercury. Sea level pressure is 1,026.7... hectopascals? < 1450578678 0 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1450578942 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The altimeter setting is less than the sea level pressure. Does this mean that the airport is below sea level? < 1450578951 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1450579076 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The neural net is usually pretty good with boily's quit messages. Here's an interesting exception. < 1450579081 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:47:38: -!- boily has quit (Quit: SCOULN DHICKEN CHICKEN). < 1450579111 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It created this one; I wonder if boily has ever actually used it. < 1450579112 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:19:35: -!- boily has quit (Quit: INTERCAL CHICKEN). < 1450579144 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:03:41: yep, at least in the syntax how to allow a 2 syntax highlighting as a set of bits because it's already a fair people who believe that it's called "trivial ink" < 1450579158 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, there are really too many people who think it's called "trivial ink". < 1450579169 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should teach them about how to allow a 2 syntax highlighting. < 1450579212 0 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried to parse that as a real sentence ;___; < 1450579251 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: that's because my real sentences are normally possible to parse < 1450579463 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@esb57.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1450579576 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@esb57.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1450579664 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1450579715 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know some things about PCRE? < 1450579736 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know some things about PCRE, but not other things < 1450579837 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know exactly what UTF-8 text is acceptable if you turned off the checking? It says codes up to 31-bits but it doesn't say about if overlong encodings can be used and other stuff like that. < 1450579941 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one of the things I don't know, sadly < 1450579956 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1450579968 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the things you do know? < 1450579977 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too many to count? < 1450579997 0 :jaboja64!~jaboja@esb57.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1450580003 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@esb57.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1450580013 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know quite a few things about the regex syntax, although sometimes I get them muddled with "actual Perl" regexes < 1450580025 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have some vague memories of what the API is like but I can't remember the details < 1450580165 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is man pages for the API with C and with C++, and I am making the API with SQL, so I wanted to know some of these thing < 1450580284 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For compatibility with other stuff in SQL, it exposes one-based offsets instead of zero-based offsets, and if the PCRE_UTF8 option is selected (or (*UTF8) in the pattern) then it will expose the UTF-8 character offsets instead of the byte offsets, too. < 1450580352 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I want to make it so that if you specify option to don't check valid UTF-8 then my program will do it by itself in the less strict but still acceptable way. < 1450581784 0 :jaboja64!~jaboja@esb57.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1450582533 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :.{3,10} < 1450582558 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm guessing you know what this matches < 1450582598 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: given that you didn't anchor it (or are you doing that with API options), anything that's at least three characters long ;-) < 1450582607 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it is anchored, anything that's between three and ten characters < 1450582608 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correct =P < 1450582612 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :minus newlines, if you didn't turn on the option < 1450582615 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make . match newlines as well < 1450583194 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about ^1?$|^(11+?)\1+$ < 1450583216 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember the relative precedence of ^ and $ compared to \ < 1450583247 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that intended to match all non-prime numbers in unary? < 1450583256 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1450583268 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it's possible to do something that works along those lines, that may well be it < 1450583427 0 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-2-250.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1450583690 0 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1450584046 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using callouts you can make it to match only prime numbers (I have tried it). < 1450584266 0 :^v^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1450585459 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: But then you're leaving the regex temporarily < 1450585679 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although my own library provides a callout function that can be used for this (and other) purposes. < 1450585802 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might also be possible without callouts, due to some other features in PCRE. < 1450586179 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: PCRE almost certainly is powerful enough that you don't need callouts < 1450586247 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, probably. < 1450586275 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: it's less than turing-complete without callouts < 1450586281 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you might need them in some cases < 1450586300 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(IIRC it's a push-down automaton, which is much more powerful than regular expressions are but still sub-TC) < 1450586387 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's interesting, PCRE allows recursive backreferences < 1450586397 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So (a|b\1)+ is a valid pattern < 1450586422 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, not with that syntax I don't think < 1450586438 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I got that directly from the manpage < 1450586445 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, actually that doesn't conflict with anything < 1450586450 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was confusing it with something else < 1450586487 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: And I was thinking you could use negative lookahead assertions to match primes < 1450586514 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anchoring a negative lookahead assertion is really hard < 1450586520 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's impossible < 1450586536 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I remember an incident a few months (years) back when #esoteric attempted to do it and collectively failed repeatedly for several hours < 1450586543 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe lookbehind assertions too < 1450586675 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: here was the problem (IIRC): you want to write a regex that matches any string that /doesn't/ contain a specific other string < 1450586684 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the specific other string is hardcoded < 1450586712 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you do it with the size of the resulting regex linear in the size of the string that you're (not) matching against? < 1450586721 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where "regex" here is typically either Perl-regex or PCRE-regex) < 1450586730 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you can't use callouts < 1450586766 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, I was trying to eliminate the FSM solution with the "linear in the size" clause but that doesn't actually work < 1450586799 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :size of the string you're matching against + a constant < 1450586835 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, so ^(?!.*foo) is too slow. (I think that would work otherwise?) < 1450586888 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not nice at all though < 1450586888 0 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1450586896 0 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1450586917 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: no, it doesn't work < 1450586932 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC < 1450586958 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1450587068 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me read the man page to make sure < 1450587189 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe I'm thinking of some other problem < 1450587192 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does seem to work < 1450587195 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and shouldn't be slow? < 1450587258 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the .*foo part isn't implemented "cleverly" as an actual FSA in PCRE/other 'powerful' regex engines, or at least used to not be < 1450587298 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1450587317 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember why, but I think the leading .* would cause issues < 1450587318 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: wouldn't matter, you'd just do a forward search and then negate the result < 1450587322 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, yes < 1450587329 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.*foo has the backtrack penalty < 1450587337 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking the ?! wouldn't cost, forgot the .* would < 1450587362 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1450587399 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how would PCRE execute ".*foo"? < 1450587437 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :In principle it should be possible to compile into an FSA I think? < 1450587439 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :read the entire string, look for an f, if you don't find one go back one character and look for an f again, and so on < 1450587447 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1450587452 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least that's how Perl does it < 1450587457 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PCRE has multiple algos < 1450587492 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having multiple algorithms depending on which features are used makes sense I suppose < 1450587507 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, different APIs for them < 1450587512 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1450587513 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the default algo worked as I described < 1450587519 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also has an NFA algo which is called DFA for some reason < 1450587552 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's apparently slower < 1450587556 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and produces outputs in a different format < 1450587571 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like a joy to use < 1450587573 0 :TellsTogo!3ecd4b91@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.75.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1450587581 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably that's "slower on regexes that are optimized for the other algo" < 1450587594 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might reduce the NFA to a DFA (and hence call it that) < 1450587596 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1450587612 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says "this isn't really a DFA algorithm because" and then goes on to describe an NFA without using the term < 1450587624 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay < 1450587633 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :So just poor naming then. Like 'qsort' in the standard library < 1450587684 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1450587700 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said that using an NFA or DFA to match a regular expression seems like an obvious case of dynamic programming to me, but someone disagreed. < 1450587709 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So maybe it's not obvious. < 1450587742 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I still think it's as reasonable a use of the term as any that I've seen. < 1450587762 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't .*foo be matched like a reverse oof.* assuming you know the size of the input? < 1450587765 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember what "dynamic programming" means anyway < 1450587772 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: not in a lookahead assertion < 1450587783 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it means optimizing a tree to a graph, or something. < 1450587786 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because lookbehind assertions, at least with widely used regex-engines in 2015, can't be vairable length < 1450587791 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*variable < 1450587794 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Ah, yeah < 1450587882 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :To me 'dynamic programming' means "break down into potentially overlapping subproblems and don't recompute the same thing twice" < 1450587904 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :either by memoizing or by figuring out an order to compute things so that previous things are already computed < 1450587947 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly we need to create a #esoteric dynamic programming language based on the literal meanings of the words "dynamic" and "programming" when they're not in conjunction with each other < 1450587953 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not the typical technical meanings < 1450587963 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would just produce something like JS or Perl < 1450587966 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the literal meaning of "programming"? < 1450587973 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead, "dynamic" as in the managerese/marketingspeak term < 1450587973 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you still mean in the sense of computer programming. < 1450587981 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "programming" as in the sense of TV programming < 1450587986 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1450588001 0 :^v^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1450588009 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming in a dynamic, fast-moving environment < 1450588012 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. producing a schedule that shows how modern you are < 1450588030 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then we advertise this as a "dynamic programming language" and make people do a triple-take < 1450588061 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly it's about flexible TV show scheduling < 1450588092 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dynamic programming" is a bad name but it's a reasonable concept < 1450588110 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Is what you said the same as what I said? < 1450588110 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a terrible name. I have no idea why it was called that < 1450588122 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it is < 1450588150 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of an NFA, you can make an infinite tree corresponding to a regular expression. < 1450588172 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And using that tree is like evaluating it with backtracking. < 1450588179 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :With one node for each substring? < 1450588191 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, for each string* < 1450588196 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's the tree you get by degraphing the graph. < 1450588214 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1450588235 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the graph is a DAG you get a finite tree, I guess. < 1450588267 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or another way of looking at it is that when you match with an NFA, you collapse distinct paths through the NFA if they lead to the same states. < 1450588269 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, ah < 1450588328 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is a dynamic programming thing where you share work between "subproblems" that lead to the same state. < 1450588341 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you lose things like backreferences, which depend on the actual path taken, not just the state. < 1450588362 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A tree has no problem supporting backreferences because a state and a path are the same thing.) < 1450588387 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's one definition of a tree -- a graph where there's a unique path from the root to each node. < 1450588492 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whether you can talk about the free/cofree tree on a graph (or a DAG). < 1450588495 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet that's something. < 1450588561 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there is a unique free tree, is there? < 1450588597 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the definition of "free" is basically "any two things are distinct unless you can prove them equal using the axioms" < 1450588624 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's the definition of free algebraic structures on a set in universal algerba. < 1450588636 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how well it extends to things between other categories. < 1450588904 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"F(G) is a free tree on G" would mean something like "for any tree T, tree homomorphisms : F(G) -> T are in natural correspondence with graph homomorphisms : G -> T" < 1450589678 0 :TellsTogo!3ecd4b91@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.75.145 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1450589940 0 :TellsTogo!3ecd4b91@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.75.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1450590755 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1450591514 0 :aloril!~aloril@84.250.63.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1450592135 0 :^v!~^v@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1450592313 0 :interest1ng!~interest1@14-202-115-22.static.tpgi.com.au QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1450592329 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1450593540 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1450593613 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you can see my PCRE wrapper library and you can tell me the comment/question/suggestion/complaint/whatever. It is in the ZIP archive: http://zzo38computer.org/sql/sqlext.zip < 1450593773 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1450594057 0 :andrew_!~andrew@14.154.166.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1450594653 0 :Wright!~Wright@c-98-225-44-92.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1450595700 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1450596422 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :øøh rjan < 1450596497 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shichaf < 1450596517 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1450596518 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 200720Z 26007KT CAVOK 05/05 Q0990 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 11003KT < 1450596522 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KOAK < 1450596522 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KOAK 200653Z 32005KT 10SM CLR 08/03 A3013 RMK AO2 SLP201 T00830033 < 1450596878 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1450597773 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? treant < 1450597784 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Treants are genericized ents for intellectual property reasons < 1450597797 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/$/./' wisdom/treant < 1450597800 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1450597836 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? termite < 1450597837 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :termite? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1450597855 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Termites are genericized ants for intellectual property reasons. < 1450597857 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'termite': Termites are genericized ants for intellectual property reasons. < 1450597927 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are marmites? < 1450597986 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? marmite < 1450597987 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Marmite is a group mind of fungal microorganisms spreading throughout the supermarkets of the Commonwealth. < 1450597993 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1450598005 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? vegemite < 1450598006 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vegemite? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1450598027 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Vegemite is genericized marmite for intellectual property reasons. < 1450598029 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'vegemite': Vegemite is genericized marmite for intellectual property reasons. < 1450598235 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ant < 1450598236 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ants are great architects. They are famous for their highways. < 1450599597 0 :TellsTogo!3ecd4b91@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.75.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1450599773 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/*ghost* < 1450599775 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/ghost < 1450599788 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/*ghast* < 1450599789 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/ghast < 1450599870 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls wisdom/*oul* < 1450599871 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/coulor \ wisdom/ghoul < 1450599880 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? coulor < 1450599881 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coulor is the correct spelling. < 1450599891 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1450600090 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -il 'correct spelling' wisdom < 1450600092 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/coulor \ wisdom/nooodl \ wisdom/mauris < 1450600129 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mauris < 1450600130 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maur is the correct spelling < 1450600144 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that's kind-of clever on two levels < 1450600325 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/{elronnd,b_jonas} < 1450600327 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `wisdom/b_jonas': No such file or directory < 1450600338 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm wisdom/b_jona < 1450600340 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1450600354 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? elronnd < 1450600355 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elronnd? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1450600508 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1450600795 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1450601059 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? economy < 1450601060 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :economy? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1450601723 0 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1450601770 0 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1450602297 0 :TellsTogo!3ecd7d76@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.125.118 JOIN :#esoteric < 1450603255 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1450604234 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. I need to come up with a cover photo for the thesis book. < 1450604247 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Technically the image is optional, but everyone seems to have had one.) < 1450604289 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have to be serious? < 1450604570 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should probably at least appear serious to a casual observer. < 1450604602 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what sort of "thesis book" is this? < 1450604612 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The printed version of my doctoral thesis. < 1450604619 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1450604641 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least at this university, all printed doctoral theses look identical apart from the date, author name, and number of pages < 1450604650 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the binding is plain and consistent for all theses, going back years in some cases < 1450604659 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the topic < 1450604661 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although it changes when they go to a new bookbinding company as they don't all have identical equipment) < 1450604713 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :At Aalto, they have a "series" for them, with some unifying graphical elements (the cover is one out of 7 fixed colors), but there's a special place for a cover photo, which will be enclosed in one out of three shapes (a circle, a cross or an octagon). < 1450604737 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they all look kind of similar, but the contents of the cover image shape are up to the author. < 1450604816 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zem.fi/tmp/diss_vaihtoehdot.pdf < 1450604832 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The light blue color has been discontinued.) < 1450604848 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Noise robust speech recognition, more or less. < 1450604880 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :When the university was still the Helsinki University of Technology, I think they had un-customizable covers. But they made this new "visual identity" as part of the merger into Aalto University. < 1450604984 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that cross-shaped photo cutout looks awful < 1450605018 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow I feel that noisy speech deserves a photo of an oscilloscope display showing something meaningful < 1450605072 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I mean. There's been several where the cover image has incorporated a spectrogram of something, it's kind of overly obvious. < 1450605120 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine deals with reverberation, I was thinking of running a 2D sound wave simulation thing (with the cutout shape as walls) and then doing some sort of a visualization on it. < 1450605141 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know if it'd look any good, and there's a nonzero amount of effort to do that. < 1450605154 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the thesis a considerably nonzero amount of effort anyway? < 1450605171 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting my thesis bound took about two or three days of effort, mostly chasing up bookbinders and couriers < 1450605199 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, nonzero amount of purely optional effort. < 1450605202 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rest is kind of mandatory. < 1450605237 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was still a mistake in the binding but a harmless one (we have an author declaration form which we sign to say it isn't plagiarised; it was only meant to be in one physical copy, but they bound it into both, and this is despite me contacting them via email to ask them how to request it to only be placed in one copy, and then making the request in the way they suggested) < 1450605340 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was reading the publication instructions today (to see what they say about the covers), and apparently the printing house is the one who compiles the electronic version the library's going to use, too. I'm somewhat afraid this will wipe out all the hyperlinks and the TOC metadata from the PDF. < 1450605452 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was quite different from me, they asked me to PDFify it myself < 1450605458 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also gave links for an online Word-to-PDF conversion service < 1450605479 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had hyperlinks, TOC metadata, and also had to take some font encoding care to make sure it'd copy-paste properly < 1450605485 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise the plagiarism detector would have had a fit < 1450605669 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. Well, we've got this "publication platform" where you fill in the changeable parts (like titles, abstracts, and the cover stuff) and provide a contents PDF, and then you can turn that into an order for Unigrafia, a printing house owned by our university, University of Helsinki, and two other nearby ones. < 1450605756 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, owned by a holding company owned by our university, anyway.) < 1450606007 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't yet know if the library's going to publish the e-copy with articles, either. For the ones with copyright transfers, I've technically got permissions for an electronic version as well, but some of them had conditions like "the download page must prominently display a note saying this and that". < 1450606008 0 :andrew_!~andrew@14.154.166.229 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1450606134 0 :andrew_!~andrew@14.154.166.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1450606196 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was quite surprised with the copyright status on the thesis (they said I keep the copyright, and asked for a very limited license to be able to hold it in the library and host the online version) < 1450606203 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, on my thesis < 1450606212 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I'm complaining < 1450606252 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's the case for the part of the thesis I wrote exclusively for the thesis, too. But it's a compilation one, so the articles have been published in conferences and journals. < 1450606333 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1450606338 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those can be a pain copyrightwise < 1450606362 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the journal articles was to a very open-access one, though -- they only wanted a CC-BY license for the article, with no copyright transfer, which was nice. < 1450606532 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember hearing from the gone-before that IEEE used to require an explicit license agreement, but that seems to no longer be the case. "The IEEE does not require individuals working on a thesis to obtain a formal reuse license, however, you may print out this statement to be used as a permission grant." < 1450606546 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They've got one of those e-publication conditions, though. < 1450606667 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :("please display the following message in a prominent place on the website" + a non-endorsement note and a link how to obtain a license for further republication.) < 1450606693 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of the compilation dissertations on our library page have just been published without the articles. < 1450606698 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably for this sort of reasons. < 1450606699 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well cc-by is a very permissive license < 1450606710 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so asking someone to license under it is quite a big request < 1450606754 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: lunch < 1450606778 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps "if we're not making any money out of this, neither are you" is what they were thinking. < 1450606815 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1450606892 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The disadvantage of using ssh and a chromebook to do most of my programming on is that I don't know any server I can access with OpenCL or Cuda or something similar on it < 1450606935 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, there's a nightclub in York called Kuda but that's not the same thing < 1450607000 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't your university have a thing? < 1450607056 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :None I know of with a GPU < 1450607114 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :We had a couple of GPU nodes on the shared cluster you could reserve for serious use, and for fiddling around they had (not very powerful, but better than nothing) Nvidia Quadro cards in the Linux workstations, so you could use one that nobody was using. < 1450607213 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you remotely get into a computer with a graphics card in a classroom, or something like that? < 1450607289 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I can, but they don't have the libs installed as far as I can tell < 1450607359 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also don't know which are turned on and booted into linux < 1450607518 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. I think ours had the CUDA packages installed. < 1450607561 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also they were all permanently in one operating system, though of course sometimes just randomly off.) < 1450607717 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of our lab PCs dual-boot between Ubuntu 14.04 and Windows 7 < 1450607725 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some can also boot into Windows 10 < 1450607736 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1450607823 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fancy and flexible. < 1450607850 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder why we had separate rooms for Linux and Windows machines. Maybe a license thing. < 1450607873 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have no idea how Windows volume licensing works, and whether there's a per-machine cost component.) < 1450608024 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1450608357 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The university probably has upwards of 1000 windows machines, a few more that also can boot into Linux I don't think would hurt < 1450608879 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1450609068 0 :TellsTogo!3ecd7d76@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.125.118 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1450610088 0 :TellsTogo!3ecd7d76@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.125.118 JOIN :#esoteric < 1450610388 0 :TellsTogo!3ecd7d76@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.125.118 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1450611213 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45922&oldid=45768 5* 03YourDeathIsComing 5* (-54) 10 < 1450611392 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1450611655 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1450611684 0 :TellsTogo!3ecd7d76@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.125.118 JOIN :#esoteric < 1450611687 0 :TellsTogo!3ecd7d76@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.125.118 QUIT :Client Quit < 1450612195 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1450612286 0 :TellsTogo!~TellsTogo@62.205.125.118 JOIN :#esoteric < 1450613382 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ł < 1450613396 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0142 LATIN SMALL LETTER L WITH STROKE] < 1450613458 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode $ < 1450613459 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0024 DOLLAR SIGN] < 1450613634 0 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1450613945 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 20ac < 1450613955 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​€ < 1450614107 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-180-214.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: bbl < 1450614269 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ¤ < 1450614271 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+00A4 CURRENCY SIGN] < 1450614618 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-180-214.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1450615915 0 :andrew_!~andrew@14.154.166.229 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1450616221 0 :andrew_!~andrew@14.154.166.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1450616307 0 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1450616343 0 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1450617159 0 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1450617525 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Qwerty12302 5* 10New user account < 1450618649 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1450618895 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1450619330 0 :andrew_!~andrew@14.154.166.229 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1450619458 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Gtltem14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=45923 5* 03Qwerty12302 5* (+1688) 10Created page with "'''gtltem''' (greater than, less than, exclamation mark) is an esoteric language created by username qwerty12302 in 2015. The language consists only of three characters: <, > ..." < 1450619532 0 :TellsGoto!~TellsTogo@62.205.125.118 JOIN :#esoteric < 1450619708 0 :TellsTogo!~TellsTogo@62.205.125.118 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1450620233 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1450620256 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1450620955 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1450621143 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1450622572 0 :tjt263!~RAPSCA77I@unaffiliated/tjt263 JOIN :#esoteric < 1450625018 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1450625273 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1450625635 0 :sat-buddhi!~satbuddhi@unaffiliated/sat-buddhi JOIN :#esoteric < 1450625836 0 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1450626460 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1450626566 0 :sat-buddhi!~satbuddhi@unaffiliated/sat-buddhi QUIT :Quit: Saliendo < 1450627118 0 :tjt263!~RAPSCA77I@unaffiliated/tjt263 PART #esoteric :"part" < 1450628945 0 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1450629136 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1450632916 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@ert206.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1450633180 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1450633361 0 :Lord_of_-!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bgavryppoolwrogx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1450633536 0 :Lord_of_-!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-endbctwopbnllekt JOIN :#esoteric < 1450633941 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1450633989 0 :shikhin!?@? 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NICK :shikhin < 1450635182 0 :boily!~alexandre@173.178.181.173 JOIN :#esoteric < 1450635612 0 :boily!~alexandre@173.178.181.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYQB < 1450635612 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYQB 201800Z 26010G17KT 25SM FEW030 SCT048 BKN150 M05/M12 A3031 RMK SC1SC2AC2 SHWR NE SLP272 < 1450635701 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One reason to have separate room for Windows and Linux might just be to make it clear where they are. < 1450635746 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If the computers can dual-boot then that wouldn't be necessary for that purpose, but is still possible) < 1450635775 0 :boily!~alexandre@173.178.181.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hezzo38. partitioning your house so multiple OSes can cohabit? < 1450635998 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we do that at work, separate rooms for linux and windows machines < 1450636028 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's mostly so a) you know where to go to find a particular OS, b) if a lot of people need to use the same room for some reason they probably also need to use the same OS < 1450637046 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1450637476 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes those are the reasons I have meant. < 1450637488 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1450637490 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't meant your house, I did mean in an office or at school. < 1450637551 0 :boily!~alexandre@173.178.181.173 QUIT :Quit: STRAIGHTENED CHICKEN < 1450637811 0 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1450638766 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1450638887 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I added 奨奪奮姓姻娘娠娯婚婦婿媒媛嫁嫉嫡嬢寂寄密寡寧審寮 אּבּגּדּהּוּזּ﬷טּיּךּכּלּ﬽מּ﬿שׁשׂשּׁשּׂאַאָנּסּ﭂ףּפּ﭅צּקּרּשּתּוֹבֿכֿפֿﭏיִﬞײַﬠ ꝊꝋꝌꝍꝎꝏꝐꝑꝒꝓꝔꝕ ꙀꙁꙂꙃꙄꙅꙆꙇꙈꙉ < 1450638949 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how the neural net seems to have figured out that fungot responds to its name. < 1450638949 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: and for the times ahead) and the ability to constrain matching. when you say foo for a in m: < 1450638987 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KGRR < 1450638987 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KGRR 201853Z 21019G24KT 10SM BKN250 07/M04 A3003 RMK AO2 PK WND 20026/1843 SLP178 T00721044 < 1450639013 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a 21019G24KT? < 1450639104 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@olist 988 < 1450639104 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No module "988" loaded < 1450639184 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:00:31: fungot: Who just zero links to it? < 1450639184 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:16:44: mroman: and i find a nice shit in a map to call the [ (as in Haskell.) < 1450639184 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: i was looking at < 1450639184 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: 3 would be nice. i think < 1450639356 0 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1450639547 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of these characters, specifically ﬷﬽﬿﭂﭅, don't officially exist. But they can be inferred from the characters around them. < 1450639565 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ESSB < 1450639566 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSB 201920Z 22012KT 9999 BKN026 12/07 Q1000 R30/19//70 < 1450639649 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode פּ﭅צּ < 1450639656 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: you heard him. Serve three lines, please < 1450639661 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+FB44 HEBREW LETTER PE WITH DAGESH \ UTF-8: ef ad 84 UTF-16BE: fb44 Decimal: פּ \ פּ \ Category: Lo (Letter, Other) \ Bidi: R (Right-to-Left) \ Decomposition: 05E4 05BC \ \ U+FB45 - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: ef ad 85 UTF-16BE: fb45 Decimal: ﭅ \ ﭅ (﭅) \ Uppercase: U+FB45 \ Category: Cn (Other, Not A < 1450639662 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :him? or maybe 'it' < 1450639681 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what is your preferred pronoun? < 1450639681 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: choke and die at some point and dubbed it newio. :s :s :s :s :s < 1450639688 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my < 1450639849 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I don't think FireFly's question warrants such a response. < 1450639849 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: it's as problematic as extreme conciseness " too short" is quite a understatement. fnord < 1450639905 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode property is terrible that what you need it to do can depend on what you are using with private use areas and with other stuff; such thing should be either in the font metrics or in the locale data depending on what kind of properties they are. < 1450639927 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: so, what *is* your preferred pronoun? < 1450639927 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: it's on-topic, because i'm not on sisc :p < 1450639945 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you saying your preferred pronoun is "it"? < 1450639945 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: might need a special form, rather than call itself directly. < 1450639959 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: a special form, you say? Which one did you have in mind? < 1450639960 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: but the real wtf is that. but you should be upgraded to di < 1450639988 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I should upgrade the pronoun I use for you to "di"? I can do that. < 1450640026 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got the impression that fungot would prefer a longer pronoun given their aversion to extreme consiseness above < 1450640026 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: what is the reason i've been fnord < 1450640039 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. 'fnord'. that would explain a thing or five < 1450640051 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: so "fnord" it is, then? < 1450640051 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: if i do anything, but it doesn't expose them < 1450640102 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I got the impression that the pronoun was extremely short and problematic for that reason < 1450640108 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only such pronoun that really fits is the null string < 1450640117 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1450640140 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a nice interpretation, let's go with that < 1450640251 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that di has made dir desires pretty clear here. < 1450640270 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's give dim what di wants. The choice is dis. < 1450640938 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :does fungot have any more wisdom for us today? < 1450640938 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: now this service won't even stop :p) < 1450640946 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell b_jonas I added a sample in Serbian to be font demo, which uses ј < 1450640947 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1450640947 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1450640950 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy/mnoqy used to be monqy before the earthquake. < 1450641086 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1450641088 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :305) `quote django ​352) django is named after a person? thought it would be a giraffe or something thankfully only one < 1450641195 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote z < 1450641196 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6) what, you mean that wasn't your real name? Gosh, I guess it is. I never realized that. \ 13) Finally I have found some actually useful purpose for it. \ 20) IN EINEM ALTERNATIVEN UNIVERSUM (WO DIE NAZIS WON): So kann ich nur schliessen, dass es fals < 1450641259 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 20 < 1450641260 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :20) IN EINEM ALTERNATIVEN UNIVERSUM (WO DIE NAZIS WON): So kann ich nur schliessen, dass es falsch ist, oder die Welt ist vollig BONKERS. Gegrusset seist du der Fuhrer Hitler! < 1450641311 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 42 < 1450641312 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :42) ??? Are the cocks actually just implanted dildos? Or are there monster dildos and cocks? Or are both the dildos and cocks monster? < 1450641317 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not very good at German writing < 1450641379 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa::f63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dicks. < 1450641399 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1450641400 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :600) elliott: young john soon afterward receives as a visitor a fnord spaniard, fnord de moncada, who has escaped from fnord fnord dissolved in the absolute. < 1450641415 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1450641415 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :73) Making a small shrine to Lawlabee in my basement is something I should get around to at some point. < 1450641422 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1450641423 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :583) COCKS [...] truly cocks < 1450641428 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1450641429 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :499) elliott_: it's a machine that looks like you! < 1450641434 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1450641435 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :65) Ah, vulva. What is that, anyway? < 1450641437 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, a good fungot quote < 1450641437 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i couldn't gotten all this information in the format < 1450641445 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1450641446 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :929) if you say "java" three times to a dark mirror does steele come out and lecture you about operator overloading < 1450641451 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1450641453 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1112) NihilistDandy: HOLY FUCK THAT'S STILL ALIVE? Maybe I should look into it < 1450641457 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep -i cocks quotes | wc -l < 1450641458 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1450641473 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1450641474 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1089) Do you like this kind of melody? l8 e4gc'fac'g ^bd'fgfed e4gc'fac'g ^1 < 1450641499 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1450641500 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :431) i try to be a hermit but it's hard with all these housemates. < 1450641506 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1450641507 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1214) I got my girlfriend through the previous job's intranet IRC channel, so I don't see how the two can conflict... < 1450641522 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1450641523 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :744) moral of the story with enough peer pressure nything is possible < 1450641525 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like music? < 1450641539 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1450641539 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :854) also if a GNU tar feature doesn't make you feel superior to others then you should file a bug report, it was probably unintentional < 1450641553 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1450641554 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :833) Do physicists have half-life crises? < 1450641560 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1450641561 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1013) shachaf: make friends. help people. find ways to help people be happy. hug people. have fun. make the world a little bit better. < 1450641581 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: ok < 1450641871 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1450641872 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :120) cpressey, oh go to zzo's website. He is NIH AnMaster, really? I was strongly under the impression that zzo was invented here. < 1450641898 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1450641899 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :48) both of you, quit it with the f-bombs. kaelis: what's the matter? something censoring stuff you're interested in? < 1450641915 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1450641916 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :270) and then there's the slightly annoying one where suddenly, i start rolling forward and i can't stop like i can be having some great sex dream or whatever and then suddenly "oh god not this again" (i go "not this again" but not necessarily realize it's a dream) < 1450641933 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote oren < 1450641934 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1226) when i was a kid it used to snow on christmas eve. what is this "freezing rain", "sleet" crap? yeah seriously, who is evn in charge anymore? apparently not santa claus Santa Claus is dead by now. \ 1227) <{\[oren]|}> ｚｚｏ３８：ｉｔ　ｗｉｌｌ　ｃａｕｓｅ　ｐｒｏｂｌｅｍｓ　ｂｙ < 1450641937 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like 120 because it just reads like i'm being a snarky asshole about the phrasing < 1450641948 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :que < 1450641962 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas the actual joke was that zzo is so weird that you sometimes wonder if he actually is a chatbot written in malbolge or twoducks or something < 1450641996 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1227 < 1450641997 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1227) <{\[oren]|}> ｚｚｏ３８：ｉｔ　ｗｉｌｌ　ｃａｕｓｅ　ｐｒｏｂｌｅｍｓ　ｂｙ　ｂｅｉｎｇ　ｈｉｌａｒｉｏｕｓ < 1450642031 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 666 < 1450642032 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :666) Benchmarks are only a good measure of surprise < 1450642060 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@ert206.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1450642067 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: sometimes I'm reading something on a random site I don't normally visit on the website, and suddenly realise it was almost certainly written by zzo38 < 1450642088 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's rare that you can distinguish a particular person out of the entire world's population by something they wrote, but some people have very distinctive styles < 1450642150 0 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1450642187 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure? < 1450642208 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no, never quite sure < 1450642211 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it feels very likely < 1450642223 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most recently it was on the c2 wiki < 1450642233 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you posted there in the past? < 1450642238 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not then it must have been someone else < 1450642265 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have posted there in the past yes, but now I cannot post on there anymore < 1450642307 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I wrote some things about music macro language and so on) < 1450642528 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh look, < 1450642531 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gamesdonequick.com/schedule < 1450642537 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's been up for a while < 1450642544 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way, I checked a lot < 1450642545 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it gets more precise over time < 1450642551 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't be older than a few days < 1450642552 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was on a temporary page for a while I think < 1450642578 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me see what goodness they will have this year < 1450642723 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: food; might or might not be back on later < 1450642779 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I so wish they started to include the name of the console or system in that table, for the benefit of people like me who are less into speedrunning. < 1450642786 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@ert206.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1450642947 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you only interested in certain systems? < 1450642959 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1450642970 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it would make it easier to identify the games than from just names < 1450642975 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1450642979 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true < 1450642999 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially for series that have both an old and more recent game with the same name, such as Ninja Gaiden < 1450643007 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And some of the games are even ambiguous, because they have speedrunnable ports to multiple systems, which are sometimes different. < 1450643073 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crypt of the Necrodancer is that popular rhythm game that pretends to be a roguelike, right? < 1450643089 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bonus incentive < 1450643131 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that I think < 1450643133 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't played it < 1450643148 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope the pokemon glitch exhibition incentive gets met < 1450643184 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Prince of Persia” played by CapnClever. There are multiple different ports of it, though only one that the speedrunners play, the one with lots of extra levels; plus there's another later game with the same name but that one is crap < 1450643195 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to watch this one < 1450643282 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! an Age of Empires speedrun. great! < 1450643291 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Grand Theft Auto 3 too < 1450643371 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Master Quest, The” - how is that different compared to just Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time? < 1450643395 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus there's some classic games < 1450643481 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the name of that platformer with very simple graphics where gravity reverses every time the character lands? < 1450643545 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 4p co-op! that will be interesting < 1450643574 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a TASBot block too < 1450643593 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Super Metroid reverse block order? nice < 1450643648 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah nice! Mike Tyson's Punch-Out blindfolded! They did that before and it's always great < 1450643675 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Age of Empires category is "IL Showcase". what does that mean? < 1450643716 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think IL is individual level(s) < 1450643732 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess speedrunning individual campaign maps or something < 1450643797 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :OoT MQ have slightly harder bosses than regular OoT I think, or the dungeons are slightly harder in some way < 1450643808 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Hyrule is mirrored, because supposedly that makes it harder < 1450643862 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom too < 1450643917 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mario Kart 64 as bonus incentive < 1450643934 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope some of the awful games will be amusing < 1450643939 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure! < 1450643949 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roundabout cutscene% last SGDQ was a lot of un < 1450643952 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :of fun, too < 1450643980 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Wolfenstein: The Old Blood" - um, what's that? is that plain Wolfenstein, or something else? < 1450644007 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently a new game < 1450644016 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It was released on May 5, 2015" < 1450644021 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1450644059 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also Super Mario Bros, Pokémon Yellow glitchless, and Super Mario 64 120 stars < 1450644085 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and Super Monkey Ball of course < 1450644089 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always look forward to that < 1450644102 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kaizo Mario Bros. 3 < 1450644104 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's gotta be good < 1450644114 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what that is < 1450644135 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kaizo mario games are these crazy super mario romhacks < 1450644153 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1450644156 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkMuNRjodCQ ← as an example < 1450644156 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't those have some other name? Um, < 1450644224 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1450644229 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have implemented many callouts in my PCRE wrapper library now (some of which are not yet released); do you have some kind of idea of what others could be added too? < 1450644249 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was confusing it with that popular Super Mario World hack that demands lots of precision < 1450644283 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1450644316 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yes, they're playing Super Mario World race of course, and Yoshi's Island as a bonus incentive < 1450644382 0 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1450644410 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. Age of Empires and Grand Theft Auto 3 are played by the same player. Why are there so many players that play both of those games? < 1450644426 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there something shared in them? Super mouse skills? < 1450644428 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea < 1450644442 0 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't think of anything off the top of my head, but I'm not particularly good at either of those < 1450644505 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a ton of Mega Man games played, identified by numbers only, and I can't really place them since they don't tell the system. < 1450644663 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that if a Magic: the Gathering card would have an ability "Sacrifice target creature: You gain 1 life" then you will not gain any life because the target is not valid by the time it is going to resolve (but you may be able to use another effect to change the target to a valid one). < 1450644686 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: yopumpkin < 1450644703 0 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1450644710 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is why you aren't supposed to put targets in the cost < 1450644925 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your opinion of such thing? < 1450645039 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think putting targets in the cost would be a good idea. < 1450645070 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it might be interesting if the cost was something other than sacrificing. < 1450645088 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Remove a jam from target creature: You gain 1 life" < 1450645103 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably you want something better than gaining 1 life. < 1450645112 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it should be at least 2 life. < 1450645120 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a "jam"? < 1450645121 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something other than gaining life. < 1450645129 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that sort of thing would give your opponent an opportunity to sabotage your ability. < 1450645138 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: A +1/+1 counter, I guess. < 1450645229 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That can be an interesting kind of thing and if the target is no longer valid then it won't give you any life points or whatever else the effect might be, so any player can potentially stop it in that way. Even then, if another effect allows to redirect you can make it continue to work again, I think. < 1450645271 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may have to amend the illegal actions rules first on how to revert consequences of targetting, for targetting can trigger triggers. < 1450645385 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how that is an issue. < 1450645392 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really an issue < 1450645574 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think that even in the "sacrifice target creature" case you could cause the ability to work by using an effect that changes the target. < 1450645670 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07DStack14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45924&oldid=45371 5* 03-Dark-Phantom- 5* (+6) 10/* String Literals */ < 1450645695 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Can you cast Hex, target a Wild Cantor with it, pay for the Hex by saccing the same Wild Cantor, and still have the Hex succeed? < 1450645721 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You control the Wild Cantor. < 1450645827 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A spell fails only if all of its targets are now illegal. < 1450645839 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sure, but I'm not sure casting can work in that order < 1450645851 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to choose targets before paying costs < 1450645858 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The scow is that if a spell has an optional target, if that target becomes illegal, the whole spell fizzles. < 1450645869 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you have to choose the targets before choosing how to pay, because of strive or whatever that mechanic is called, < 1450645888 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but don't you check the spell for valid targets after paying? < 1450645902 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1450645906 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so. < 1450645955 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1450645966 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ais returned < 1450646011 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think target are checked at 601.2c and 601.2e, and then after that you determine the cost, get a mana step if the cost includes mana, and then you pay the cost, and then the spell is considered to be successfully cast. < 1450646084 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1450646113 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Effects that would alter the cost during the mana step do not alter the cost; the cost is locked in before the mana step, and the rules give an example.) < 1450646130 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the costs are locked in < 1450646146 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you determine how you'd pay for all the cost, then pay all costs according to that < 1450646160 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't say what happens if the spell goes missing during the process of casting it, although it would seem that the spell is still considered as successfully cast (although it will never resolve in this case). < 1450646181 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the side effects of paying the costs don't influence how much cost you pay. < 1450646189 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1450646202 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, this looks fine < 1450646244 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I grepped, and it seems like there's no activated ability with the targets mentioned in the cost. < 1450646254 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to check for spells with additional costs though. < 1450646318 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, no such thing either it seems < 1450646412 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't seem to appear in alternate costs either < 1450646470 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(alternate costs like that of Daze) < 1450646540 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1450646660 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1450646759 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One situation where a spell could go missing during the process of being cast, is, I suppose, if you manage to cast a spell owned by another player in a multiplayer game, but that player concedes during your mana step. < 1450647022 0 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1450647371 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you activate Echo Chamber while you do not have four manas in your mana pool, are you allowed to choose not to activate it if opponent chooses the target that you don't want? < 1450647418 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: dunno, probably. < 1450647509 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if you control a copy of a spell owned by a player and that player concedes, is the copy still on the stack? < 1450647527 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that it isn't a physical object and so they don't need to take it home with them, I guess there's no reason for it not to be < 1450647536 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me to see < 1450647547 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they own the copy then it is removed < 1450647557 0 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1450647560 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, I've no idea how the multiplayer rules work < 1450647611 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A copy of a spell is owned by the player under whose control it was put on the stack." < 1450647681 0 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1450647682 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So probably the copy is still on the stack if you control it. < 1450647853 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rule 800.4a says that all objects owned by players who leave the game will be removed, whether they are cards or tokens or something else it does not matter, they are still removed if the owner of those objects is no longer in the game. < 1450647985 0 :TellsGoto!~TellsTogo@62.205.125.118 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1450649536 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1450649811 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1450650488 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can steal control of a copy of a spell using Commandeer, I think < 1450650533 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and then it is owned by different player than who controls it. < 1450651409 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :select cast(pcre_replace('(?=\d)(?C148)\d+|[WUBRG](?C1)|X|\([A-Z0]/.\)(?C1)|(?=\(\d)\((?C148)\d+/.\)','0',-11,-1) as int); -- Do you like this? < 1450651429 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :very readable < 1450651520 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you see its working or its meaning or purpose of such a code? < 1450651581 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's allowing a db engine (presumably sqlite) to call out to pcre < 1450651610 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although it is not what I meant; I meant if you can guess what this specific code and pattern is for. < 1450651611 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were talking about mtg and then you posted this 100 character regex out of the blue < 1450651793 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Funciton14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=45925&oldid=44356 5* 03Timwi 5* (+1) 10 < 1450651842 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, I didn't count < 1450652034 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'select cast(pcre_replace(@(?=\d)(?C148)\d+|[WUBRG](?C1)|X|\([A-Z0]/.\)(?C1)|(?=\(\d)\((?C148)\d+/.\)@,@0@,-11,-1) as int);' | wc -c < 1450652035 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :123 < 1450652099 0 :dcentral!~IGLC@2601:680:c400:e360:a1b5:d822:f42c:d0d JOIN :#esoteric < 1450652138 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a rough estimate < 1450652306 0 :Welo!~hato@546A4E77.cm-12-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1450652593 0 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1450652871 0 :boily!~alexandre@modemcable173.181-178-173.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: SLIMY CHICKEN < 1450652900 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1450653230 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1450653294 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's fun to commit the faux pas of pronouncing it as folks pass. < 1450653484 0 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1450653995 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@ert206.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1450655368 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you guys know any file system that mounts compressed archives? < 1450655665 0 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP130-01-1242512118.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuser? < 1450655688 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that kind of fs