< 1452384353 55055 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1452384508 193088 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, CapnClever was running the much shorter DOS version of Prince of Persia this year? that will be interesting < 1452384521 934065 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, this is why I wish they put the console name in the schedule < 1452384907 392774 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION leaves for ENVA monday < 1452384911 569957 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please make it not so cold < 1452384924 628025 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1452384999 15138 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1452385004 645725 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never knew about that skip on level 5 < 1452385012 129167 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on Price of Persia DOS < 1452385067 123731 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :link? < 1452385081 333189 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuJjyN1ukjM&index=58&list=PLz8YL4HVC87VqROwl3mdpVypnv2SXtGm_ < 1452385084 557652 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1452385089 547865 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jhellonas. < 1452385389 665341 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, as I was watching it, I was wondering why he didn't go up on the right extreme of level 8, then realized, oh right, it's a speedrun, he doesn't need the extra life < 1452385468 477100 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pity some pixels are cropped from the screen on the right and on the bottom < 1452385474 902784 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to see all the pixels < 1452385622 971772 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope he's going to do the skip on level 12 < 1452385777 805719 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, i used to play this game as kid i was realy suprised when i found SNES version has new levels < 1452385793 631006 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the SNES version is a lot bigger, yes < 1452385803 157565 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played the DOS version a lot, and still occasionally replay it < 1452385806 485006 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did so a few days ago < 1452385807 813370 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1452385808 961409 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :few years < 1452385810 130451 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1452385815 797864 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really great < 1452385835 750543 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, he does do the skip on level 12 < 1452385891 833416 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :prince of persia 2 is really great as well < 1452385912 839701 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sword fighting is great because you can actually enjoy a fight, it's not like gamse where just run pu and hit hit hit until they die < 1452385929 800846 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't play prince of persia much < 1452385934 799487 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1452385940 349419 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't play prince of persia 2 much < 1452386065 497664 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would recommend it, it's very interesting < 1452386083 525142 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually want to play them both through now < 1452386138 317189 :infinitymaster!~infinitym@S0106c8fb2643a911.vc.shawcable.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1452386201 206592 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: go on. I won't play prince 2, but if you want, feel free < 1452386219 912769 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1452386238 485335 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the few times I tried it, I didn't like it much < 1452386245 167049 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1452386248 424556 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :anwyay i cant play them < 1452386253 996767 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1452386264 393353 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :it hurts my hands/arms too much < 1452386276 257088 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1452386279 116502 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill need a different input device if i want ot play a game < 1452386285 680207 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :i havent worked out a good solution yet < 1452386343 235176 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1452386507 676832 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-180-214.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1452387139 68547 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CJtphqFSR0 < 1452387689 65924 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.barrucadu.co.uk/posts/2016-01-09-c-is-not-turing-complete.html < 1452387763 681296 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :People argue about if C is Turing complete or not < 1452387795 607223 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :忘忠性情態憲批承担招拝拡捨授採探接推提揮 < 1452387796 188329 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :損操敵断暖暮暴朗条枚枝染査株棒検構模権樹 < 1452387810 73510 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :my view: its not TC without IO, with IO acting as a tape you can obviously implement any turing machine [supposing the IO really acts as a tape] < 1452387887 769196 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :roight, with fseek(SEEK_CUR < 1452388032 797827 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. File sizes are limited. < 1452388055 649664 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: what if I fopen the tape drive device? < 1452388071 230359 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(*all* file offsets are representable within C itself) < 1452388095 183404 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Okay, what if I take a FSM and glue it to an infinite tape? :P < 1452388120 752552 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you allowed to rewind stdin if it is a tape? < 1452388154 74120 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Also, tape device offsets are *also* limited. < 1452388170 959010 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not aware of a limitation syaing anywhere you can fseek to you can be ftold? < 1452388200 139931 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what living in Tel Aviv is like compared to NYC and Silicon Valley < 1452388281 922294 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, suppose X is the largest off_t. if you do fseek(SEEK_SET,X); fseek(SEEK_SET,X); then won't you have fsought to a position of 2X, unrepresentable as off_t? < 1452388318 736665 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, forgot to pass in the file to fseek. whatever, you get the idea < 1452388590 39582 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc int main(){ FILE *f=fopen("/dev/null","r+"); fseek(f,SEEK_CUR,~0); fseek(f,SEEK_CUR,~0); printf("%ld",ftell(f));} < 1452388615 132876 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​: In function ‘main’: \ :1:13: error: unknown type name ‘FILE’ \ compilation terminated due to -Wfatal-errors. < 1452388635 940795 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc #include "stdio.h"\n int main(){ FILE *f=fopen("/dev/null","r+"); fseek(f,SEEK_CUR,~0); fseek(f,SEEK_CUR,~0); printf("%ld",ftell(f));} < 1452388643 240658 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1452388691 771214 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc #include "stdio.h"\n int main(){ FILE *f=fopen("/dev/null","r+"); fseek(f,SEEK_CUR,~0>>1); fseek(f,SEEK_CUR,~0>>1); printf("%ld",ftell(f));} < 1452388693 807211 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1452388704 29546 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc #include "stdio.h"\n int main(){ FILE *f=fopen("/dev/null","r+"); fseek(f,SEEK_CUR,(~0)>>1); fseek(f,SEEK_CUR,(~0)>>1); printf("%ld",ftell(f));} < 1452388705 980373 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1452388787 761120 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc #include "stdio.h"\n int main(){ FILE *f=fopen("/dev/null","r+"); fseek(f,SEEK_CUR,1); fseek(f,SEEK_CUR,1); printf("%ld",ftell(f));} < 1452388789 840918 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1452388792 283298 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1452388816 535669 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently on /dev/null your position is locked to zero < 1452389024 133280 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the C standard doesn't define any errors for fseek, only for ftell < 1452389204 837423 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. it can retrun nonzero "of the requst can't be satisfied" < 1452389274 974810 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that still is implementation defined < 1452389279 844290 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452389318 898540 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess the final conclusion is that fseek *can* allow C to be turing complete, but doesn't have to. < 1452389346 226810 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1452389634 748870 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1452390791 377787 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he\\oren\! still fonting? < 1452390833 293500 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, if y'all guys could answer that thing I made, it'd be nice: https://www.reddit.com/r/SampleSize/comments/4099j8/casual_delicacies_everyone/ < 1452391016 318933 :ridemyponey!52716a32@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.82.113.106.50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452391482 282064 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: could you thicken 性 twh < 1452391518 350052 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? twk < 1452391520 107483 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? twh < 1452391520 528893 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :twk? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1452391521 529718 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh would help, but is an hth derivative. hth. twh. hand. < 1452391530 327925 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hand < 1452391531 295177 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A hand in the bush is better than a stoned bird. < 1452391576 134102 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? magic < 1452391577 314534 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The magic was in you all along. < 1452391584 241241 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Magic: the Gathering < 1452391585 212863 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magic: the Gathering? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1452391587 596662 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mtg < 1452391588 521314 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mtg? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1452392129 340869 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswellott. not all TLAs are in the wisdom hth < 1452392287 759005 :Guest26249!~canaima@138.59.8.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452392351 629566 :Guest26249!~canaima@138.59.8.6 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1452392383 70989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/hand < 1452392387 214450 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e ais523 oerjan oerjan < 1452392405 646661 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAND in the bush. HTH < 1452392601 810798 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should try to make more comment/complaint of my own custom Magic: the Gathering cards, and also the puzzle < 1452392616 491963 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'd have to make an account for that. < 1452392634 71483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't like MD5, or even HTTP authentication. < 1452392788 779974 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, MD5 isn't very good, but this HTTP authentication is better than the other way < 1452392802 363242 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the other way? Cookies? < 1452392824 952934 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there are many other ways < 1452392875 127907 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should make registration and accounts optional. < 1452392916 473304 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This account does not require any email or date or birth < 1452392981 374986 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However at least now it can also be done by form if you have JavaScripts. < 1452393004 680002 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1452393054 444450 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do I do with the form? < 1452393112 8468 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write the result to me by the private message, and then I can approve the account. < 1452393213 185049 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to design a C-level programming language that uses more mathematical programming :) < 1452393222 362580 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. functions are curried instead of f(x)ed < 1452393269 730634 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: OK, how will it compile? < 1452393277 700989 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Cleverly < 1452393282 780896 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1452393300 993167 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What do you mean by "How will it compile"? < 1452393307 29834 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not understand the question < 1452393357 62808 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question does not compile. < 1452393376 231798 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean do you intend to compile into native codes and if so how the function that return the other function is compile to be optimized? < 1452393412 250076 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Similarly to Haskell. I do plan to compile. < 1452393417 933610 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1452393428 127378 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. recursion is optimized into loops < 1452393489 330414 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :similarly to haskell, so at least 3 intermediate languages. < 1452393937 712011 :ridemyponey!52716a32@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.82.113.106.50 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1452394014 748821 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yep xD < 1452394142 932963 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Are there any tutorials on the Interwebz about /designing/ programming languages that you know of? < 1452394159 542992 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1452394174 858170 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only because i'm too lazy to know < 1452394184 984420 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or possibly remember < 1452394223 382813 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to /r/mapporn, half of Norwegian population lives in the blue areas: http://i.imgur.com/nZfwf1m.png < 1452394340 799066 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that does seem to include our major cities < 1452394345 416004 :ridemyponey!52716a32@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.82.113.106.50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452394426 521843 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is slightly surprised by the big blob a bit above the middle < 1452394487 986521 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's close to where i'm from, and i didn't think it was that densely populated... < 1452394565 356260 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where oerjan is from < 1452394565 530936 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about oerjan. < 1452394598 689280 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you and me both, buddy < 1452394610 669616 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan exists. < 1452394619 928911 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1452394621 15972 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your famous evil overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also an antediluvian Norwegian who hates Roald Dahl. He can never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. < 1452394645 794973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/famous/& mysterious/' wisdom/oerjan < 1452394649 970368 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1452394672 79289 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I recall correctly, the latitude where half of Sweden's population is north of it and half south of it is slightly /south/ of Stockholm < 1452394679 960023 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :which says something about the population skew < 1452394711 536490 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you have all the rest for then twh < 1452394716 139638 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: NUMISMATIC CHICKEN < 1452394740 997149 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: timber hth < 1452394764 804316 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1452394765 830873 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1452394789 335610 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lumboerjan < 1452394813 426847 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in norway's case, also rock < 1452394857 359788 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also space research, or at least that's what I associate Kiruna with < 1452394882 401584 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have plenty of space there < 1452394896 765026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan++ < 1452394898 216484 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Now do you understand this form? < 1452394901 545388 :ridemyponey!52716a32@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.82.113.106.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know sweden was one of the first countries to approve palestine's status as a state? also.. ingrid bergman.. and her daughter :v and of course drew berrymore. i love sweden. but i don't like oerjan. < 1452394908 726604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zzo38mtg.php < 1452394909 724367 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/mtg/cardfile.php < 1452394929 429044 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I understand the form but I don't want to make an account. < 1452394936 826777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you made a way to comment without an account, though... < 1452394939 654863 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that is true < 1452394957 257645 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kiruna municipality is in fact the least population-dense one < 1452394962 438581 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want to post a comment without account? < 1452394995 408546 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1452394995 415635 NAMES :#esoteric < 1452395055 698299 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!*52716a32@*.com/ip.82.113.106.50 > 1452395055 709382 NAMES :#esoteric < 1452395055 879033 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no KICK #esoteric ridemyponey :Happy new year, hagb4rd < 1452395070 289741 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd? < 1452395077 514898 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1452395086 47161 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering < 1452395098 976230 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can try to think of it but I want to avoid the spam message too much < 1452395116 427589 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are people trying to spam your site? < 1452395122 68596 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1452395125 617745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or only automated bots that try to spam every site? < 1452395144 96200 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could add a moderation feature whereby comments get submitted to you for approval before they're posted. < 1452395168 539796 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean I do not want to be spam to myself. < 1452395185 449927 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore moderation feature even result in they still have to send the message to me at first < 1452395198 267982 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1452395198 279196 NAMES :#esoteric < 1452395209 454506 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And would still require deleted if the message is wrong, just the same way. < 1452395215 258067 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: an old troll who keeps returning occasionally < 1452395222 916127 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah < 1452395225 485413 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not want it to be spam by manually either. But I do want to allow to post even if you use curl instead of use web browser softwaer if you want to, too. < 1452395388 444989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` egrep 'by \w+ly' quotes < 1452395389 598271 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ Invent the game called "Sandwich - The Card Game" and "Professional Octopus of the World" (these names are just generated by randomly) \ Taneb's been hit by melancholy. He didn't have any friends, fortunatel.y \ what is nice about a pebble is that you can process it with your brain as a numbe < 1452395408 343714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I would play both of those games. < 1452395412 737711 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially the latter. < 1452395443 454257 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: in fact half the reason he's permanently banned is that he's consistently tried to sneak back while still banned < 1452395457 281293 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Of course < 1452395643 830474 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I like Wall of Learning. < 1452395663 692020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know if there's any official card with a similar effect? < 1452395732 802295 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1452396726 604396 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, you can now post comments anonymously too. See the HTML source of the "Info" page for details. < 1452396828 301688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, but you still need to use HTTP authentication? < 1452396865 578916 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a place I can test commenting? < 1452396874 918297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to mess up the comments page of a real card. < 1452396883 638849 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/mtg/cardfile.php?do=card&id=%2104+Miscellaneous < 1452396914 755233 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just says "Miscellaneous", although that is what I used to test it, and I will delete test comments from there too. < 1452396941 833176 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The text is too short/long; please try again." < 1452396945 884198 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the length limits? < 1452397004 149161 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The limits are 8 to 10000 < 1452397640 421009 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats this soing? < 1452397641 572667 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats this song? < 1452397643 586181 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :doens anyone know it < 1452397653 733210 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :sonic i guess < 1452398009 521108 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1452398109 787940 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :this has all been sonic 3 music vanila < 1452398115 172441 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1452398129 967025 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: If you are having a trouble with it then please tell me so < 1452399557 25499 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2006/as-sa/97-550/vignettes/img/map-2006-pop-density-canada-sz01-en.gif < 1452399635 16745 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you can see, most canadians would take 2 hours or less to drive to America < 1452399643 521924 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1452400968 272046 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ↄ14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46136&oldid=46135 5* 03Rottytooth 5* (+349) 10edited for clarity < 1452401372 626906 :benderpc_!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:88a5:ad2:6a78:9cd9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452401552 239548 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDream < 1452401688 902768 :benderpc_!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:88a5:ad2:6a78:9cd9 NICK :bender < 1452401697 446287 :bender!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:88a5:ad2:6a78:9cd9 QUIT :Changing host < 1452401697 659403 :bender!benderpc@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452402339 88579 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1452402390 934180 :mauris_!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Client Quit < 1452402565 682300 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1452404741 831139 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :See if the card game can be made which resembles a Pokemon battle simulator (not the game of Pokemon card, which is an entirely different game), I have some ideas such as using square cards which can be placed in four possible orientations and opponent will not see what card it is until exposed < 1452405416 267246 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how a Pokémon battle simulator works. < 1452407512 748391 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1452407524 849978 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1452407545 755846 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither do I, but I think my brother does < 1452410462 811964 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1452412387 679328 :jaboja!~jaboja@erv84.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1452414299 64781 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"All language reduces to a finite string of Hitlers" < 1452414557 874516 :tjt263!~RAPSCA77I@unaffiliated/tjt263 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452414559 322691 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1452414628 847700 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: SMBC < 1452414884 180130 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1452415956 939705 :rifter!~rifter@75.108.93.198 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1452415973 915697 :rifter!~rifter@75.108.93.198 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452416031 969262 :rifter!~rifter@75.108.93.198 QUIT :Client Quit < 1452416049 716916 :rifter!~rifter@75.108.93.198 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452418153 760508 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/magic_card/puzzle.7 Is this correct? < 1452418261 176364 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: which one? < 1452418308 66124 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Not sure. Didn't save the tab xD < 1452418315 727425 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do you mean which SMBC? < 1452418320 72724 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there more than one? < 1452419530 827606 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1452422050 637346 :Trinity!~Trinity@unaffiliated/trinity QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1452423279 757855 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1452423941 722336 :bender|!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:acf7:7491:400f:c050 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452424078 640867 :bender!benderpc@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1452424079 768110 :tjt263!~RAPSCA77I@unaffiliated/tjt263 PART :#esoteric < 1452425747 377924 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://arin.ga/YocMZj/raw need some help to understand this < 1452425772 141173 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's from man 2 fcntl < 1452425781 656927 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can i change the O_APPEND flag? < 1452425787 332872 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean? < 1452426040 986125 :bender|!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:acf7:7491:400f:c050 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1452426054 800901 :bender|!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:acf7:7491:400f:c050 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452427665 907931 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mario Maker shows some sort of preview image of the levels in the level select screen? How is it a blind race then? < 1452429098 605620 :jaboja!~jaboja@erv84.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1452429191 817983 :jaboja!~jaboja@erv84.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1452430094 417823 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1452430137 632285 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: I assume it would mean enabling/disabling the things the O_APPEND flag normally does, i.e. the behavior that, before every write, the write position is set to the end of the file. < 1452430180 459585 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1452430183 473258 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know that < 1452430207 97293 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought all it did was to seek to the end of file when opening < 1452430232 255678 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's on every write. (You can move around and read from other locations if it's also open for reading, though.) < 1452430247 490839 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1452430370 752700 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1452430376 241198 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1452430550 739009 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1452430587 949425 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that NFS doesn't fully support the O_APPEND flag: it'll read the size and seek there, but something else could write there at the same time and get overwritten < 1452430802 932802 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452430867 439722 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(see http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man1/safecat.1.html for an alternative) < 1452430960 781518 :MoALTz_!~no@78-11-180-214.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1452431172 737366 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-180-214.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1452431206 423234 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1452431715 778650 :Laivos!~Thunderbi@2804:14c:8583:28b::1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452431736 393264 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks :) < 1452432069 769455 :Laivos!~Thunderbi@2804:14c:8583:28b::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :may the force be with you < 1452432200 619391 :Laivos!~Thunderbi@2804:14c:8583:28b::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you stay here for a long time, and nobody talk with nobody < 1452432278 187477 :Laivos!~Thunderbi@2804:14c:8583:28b::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Builders of the new world < 1452432638 153523 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1452432638 727206 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 101300Z 11007KT 15SM FEW070 BKN110 OVC200 04/01 A2983 RMK AC1AC6CI1 SLP104 < 1452432643 794059 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no rain yet! < 1452432654 793025 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: DESKLAMP CHICKEN < 1452433047 204960 :zgrep!~zgrep@zgrep.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1452433121 566478 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENZV < 1452433121 741039 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENZV 101320Z 11019KT 9999 -RASN FEW013 BKN090 03/M01 Q0984 TEMPO 4000 -SN BKN014 < 1452433127 660637 :Laivos!~Thunderbi@2804:14c:8583:28b::1 QUIT :Quit: Laivos < 1452433133 991552 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :RASN.. that's a good combo < 1452433186 884154 :zgrep!zgrep@zgrep.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1452433228 453569 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@86.89.119.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452433477 844048 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm watching more of AGDQ now < 1452433634 979577 :j-bot!~j-bot@li1285-84.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1452433653 231496 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh great, rain again < 1452433930 777368 :bender|!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:acf7:7491:400f:c050 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1452434420 628372 :bender|!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:acf7:7491:400f:c050 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452434431 638733 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar lowi < 1452434432 212594 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 101350Z 16004KT 120V190 9999 FEW008 SCT012 05/03 Q1000 NOSIG < 1452434461 141737 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda boring < 1452434468 527606 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1452434483 31376 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1452434483 496478 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome.eo/Bonvenon al la internacia centro por la desegno kaj ellaso de esoteraj programlingvoj! Por pli da informado, vizitu la Viki-on: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Por la alia speco de esotero, iru al #esoteric sur irc.dal.net.) < 1452435050 637103 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-236-58.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1452435206 229879 :MoALTz_!~no@78-11-180-214.static.ip.netia.com.pl NICK :MoALTz < 1452435594 712835 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-236-58.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1452436115 830781 :jaboja!~jaboja@erv84.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1452437958 629698 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, the GTA 3 run is a bit disappointing. Adam_ak's commentary is much better than this one. < 1452437966 394675 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pity. < 1452438460 482432 :bender|!benderpc@2404:e800:e61a:41d:acf7:7491:400f:c050 QUIT :Quit: ["This is the national anthem of kicking Satan's ass since 1993" --- Some person on "At DooM's gate, E1M1"] < 1452439096 730613 :jaboja!~jaboja@erv84.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1452439134 710551 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-236-58.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1452440313 642906 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-236-58.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1452441409 500648 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Brainfuck algorithms14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46137&oldid=46127 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+601) 10Nope, don't think so. < 1452441914 116693 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-gjztkjfbyvjeawyk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1452441966 444078 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-pznuzxwlhqqbsyfb JOIN :#esoteric < 1452442342 977839 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl JOIN :#esoteric < 1452442667 817914 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm w/ my dad and his friends < 1452442671 516070 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill me < 1452442677 929620 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :plz x.x < 1452442970 943556 :user!~user@unaffiliated/energy-/x-7653247 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452443160 901129 :user!~user@unaffiliated/energy-/x-7653247 NICK :lolcat < 1452443373 861014 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1452443463 506647 :lolcat!~user@unaffiliated/energy-/x-7653247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1452444372 243544 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1452444446 926826 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT YOU SAY !! < 1452444857 463239 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1452444862 834863 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :447) Riots in Glasgow would probably be reported as a sudden drop in crime. < 1452445814 567241 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1452445817 636398 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for further details for futher details./See `? for further details for futher details. < 1452445826 291003 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1452445828 403192 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :california/California is pronounced "Caliphate-ornery-I-A" < 1452446007 882797 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452446084 640357 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At AGDQ, the Kaizo Mario run is awesome < 1452446099 327012 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a crazy hard game. < 1452447338 544701 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Kai14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46138&oldid=21090 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+13) 10dead link < 1452447660 782236 :jaboja!~jaboja@erv84.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1452448364 469597 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anybody know of any df like for android? < 1452448637 101346 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 447 < 1452448641 385353 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* Riots in Glasgow would probably be reported as a sudden drop in crime. < 1452449114 691522 :MDream!~fyrc@pa-67-235-0-195.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1452451101 826170 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1452451198 401551 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (if x == 0 then x else x) < 1452451199 999003 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Expr < 1452451203 924304 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1452451211 214905 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \x -> (if x == 0 then x else x) < 1452451213 158497 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Eq a, Num a) => a -> a < 1452451233 62469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (\x -> (if x == 0 then x else x)) (0==) < 1452451234 646121 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Eq a, Eq (a -> Bool), Num a, Num (a -> Bool)) => a -> Bool < 1452451241 897929 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (\x -> (x==0)) (0==) < 1452451243 599808 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Eq (a0 -> Bool)) < 1452451243 798534 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : (maybe you haven't applied enough arguments to a function?) < 1452451243 798589 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ‘==’ < 1452451262 685937 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (\x -> (if x==0 then 1 else 2)) (0==) < 1452451264 455202 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not deduce (Eq (a0 -> Bool)) arising from a use of ‘==’ < 1452451264 635243 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : from the context (Num a) < 1452451264 635318 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : bound by the inferred type of it :: Num a => a at :1:1 < 1452451275 848928 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (\x -> (if x == 0 then x else x)) (0==) < 1452451277 481429 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Eq a, Eq (a -> Bool), Num a, Num (a -> Bool)) => a -> Bool < 1452451281 705889 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (\x -> (if x == 0 then 1 else 2)) (0==) < 1452451283 425035 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not deduce (Eq (a0 -> Bool)) arising from a use of ‘==’ < 1452451283 614115 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : from the context (Num a) < 1452451283 614168 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : bound by the inferred type of it :: Num a => a at :1:1 < 1452451288 517466 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1452451315 552436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (\x -> (if x == 0 then (0==) else (0==))) (0==) < 1452451317 157170 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not deduce (Eq (a0 -> Bool)) arising from a use of ‘==’ < 1452451317 338061 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : from the context (Eq a, Num a) < 1452451317 338136 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : bound by the inferred type of it :: (Eq a, Num a) => a -> Bool < 1452451331 464936 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (if (0==) == 0 then (0==) else (0==)) < 1452451333 222928 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not deduce (Num a0) arising from the literal ‘0’ < 1452451333 401587 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : from the context (Eq a, Num a) < 1452451333 401643 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : bound by the inferred type of it :: (Eq a, Num a) => a -> Bool < 1452451421 421024 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t (\x -> (if x == 0 then x else x)) (0==) < 1452451421 747786 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-012-057.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:8: error: expected: ",", < 1452451421 932040 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-012-057.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : ":", "=>", "impossible" < 1452451421 932135 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-012-057.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (\x -> (if x == 0 then x else x)) (0==) < 1452451421 932167 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-012-057.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^ < 1452451423 535437 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched brackets) < 1452451429 717208 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t (\x => (if x == 0 then x else x)) (0==) < 1452451435 144182 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-178-006-012-057.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't resolve type class 12Num (12Integer -> 12Bool) < 1452451441 943428 :Xe!~xe@unaffiliated/xe PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris is an esoteric language now? < 1452451453 663619 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xe: not /really/ but it appeals to esolangers < 1452451459 750674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in the same category as Haskell in that respect < 1452452958 753352 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1452454055 908711 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1452454085 886406 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1452454340 912722 :rifter_!~rifter@75.108.93.198 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452454367 515322 :rifter_!~rifter@75.108.93.198 QUIT :Client Quit < 1452454386 445298 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-236-58.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a traditional behavior expected for improperly matched [] in brainfuck? < 1452454403 535669 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is an error. < 1452454406 566681 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-236-58.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ie, if I hit a second [ before a ]. < 1452454414 870168 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-236-58.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should my interpreter check for that? < 1452454422 796699 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is OK; it is nested loop < 1452454495 157270 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-236-58.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. I guess what I'm not clear on is how matching works then. In other words, is it just safe to look for the next ] and ignore anything else we find along the way. < 1452454526 29973 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :[>+[>+]>+] or something is properly matched < 1452454562 734062 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :just match the brackets in the only way that makes sense? < 1452454600 675829 :mauris!~mauris@unaffiliated/nooodl PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there are more [s than ]s, or vice versa, throw an error. if there is a ] that doesn't correspond to any [, do the same < 1452454609 185781 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if there is a [ without ] afterword, or extra ] then it is error, although as an extension you may use a mismatched ] to begin the initial input of the program, before reading user input. < 1452454642 334936 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Some implementations use ! to begin initial input instead, although neither is standard brainfuck.) < 1452454797 257416 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-236-58.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is what I get for trying to implement a language I don't actually know. < 1452454861 469029 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-236-58.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so dumb question time: in [>+[>+]>+],. does the first [ need to match to the first ] or the last one? < 1452454877 315084 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first [ matches the last ] < 1452454882 676675 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the inner [ matches the inner ] < 1452454926 869294 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-236-58.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. OK. So I'll need to be cleverer about following loops. That's what I needed. < 1452455081 419630 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1452455094 333059 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would anything else make any sense? < 1452455125 86912 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the first [ would match the first ], the inner loop would have to go outside the outer loop and then back in < 1452455230 980402 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not sure what is more interesting: why you don't know bf or why you implement it if you don't know it < 1452455584 737203 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: um, it could do gotos anywhere. < 1452455590 759032 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@86.89.119.147 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1452455855 726398 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: how does that contradict anything i said? < 1452455994 320760 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-236-58.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: exactly I expected a more imperative, less intelligent behavior: ie. it would simply scan for the next opposite symbol. < 1452456049 674484 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-236-58.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And to answer the question of "why": because I was bored, and it occurred I had some novel features in Heresy that might make it fun to implement. < 1452456071 330438 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about implementing eodermdrome? < 1452456099 260330 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-236-58.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF is superficially similar to a simpler example I was reviewing from a code exercise I'd done. < 1452456147 660974 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :implementing bf is pretty borong, unless done in any weird or unfit language < 1452456168 368407 :J_Arcane!~chatzilla@37-219-236-58.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heresy is a slightly weird, possibly unfit language of my own devising, so that was also a motivation really. < 1452456292 213872 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452456365 743150 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How good do you know rules of Magic: the Gathering do you know how to help me with this? http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/magic_card/puzzle.7 < 1452456427 27042 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What exactly happens? (For example, is there ever a card in any graveyard face-down or with no characteristics?) < 1452456444 743057 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a card can only be in a graveyard face-down during the casting of a spell < 1452456455 390083 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and automatically turns face-up and regains its characteristics when the spell finishes casting < 1452456500 983138 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or during activating an ability) < 1452456535 988321 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that is true in the hand if the card is drawn (rule 401.5), and that seems to be what is important for Anafenza's replacement effect. < 1452456565 292916 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it reset when it is actually in the graveyard though, and furthermore, is this game position winnable? < 1452456900 686955 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So do either of you know how these cards will interact in this game position? < 1452457384 123441 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar engm < 1452457384 475071 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENGM 101950Z 02007KT 2400 -SN BR SCT011 BKN013 M05/M06 Q0996 TEMPO 1000 SN VV003 < 1452457643 845493 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1452457644 131942 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 102000Z 06013KT 15SM FEW045 BKN080 BKN120 06/03 A2926 RMK SC1AC5AC1 PRESFR SLP910 < 1452457673 456099 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's raining. stop lying, you sleazy airport weather report guy. < 1452457700 301151 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is tempted to write a strongly worded letter to Aéroports de Montréal. < 1452457784 973242 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :My friend is stuck at ENGM because his flight was cancelled. Doesn't look like it's the weather, though < 1452458116 170656 :\oren\!~oren@TOROON0949W-LP140-1-1175999594.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYYZ < 1452458117 129409 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYYZ 102020Z 29020G28KT 2SM -SN SCT013 OVC025 01/M01 A2915 RMK SN2SF2NS4 PRESRR SLP877 < 1452458323 26496 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to propose a new, useful operator < 1452458334 920756 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>-<, read "Together with" < 1452458342 640253 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe >< < 1452458380 679283 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :{0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7} >< {(+), (-), (*), (/)} forms modular arithmetic (specifically, mod 8) < 1452458430 436643 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, it is just (Z_8, +, *)? < 1452458527 90724 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are not really describing what the "Together with" operator is going to do very precisely? < 1452458555 521668 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I am not. It's a more general operator. < 1452458587 590190 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It is really just a placeholder for an operator to dynamically create rings/groups/fields/magmas/categories/ordered things/etc < 1452458651 344154 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you specify anytjing in it? like, what is 1 p 2? < 1452458656 956806 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 + 2 < 1452458672 37992 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Maybe you should just telephone them to make an inquiry? < 1452458694 978029 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i know if it is F_8 or F__2 x F_2 x F_2? < 1452458853 829659 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: That's up to the mathematician using it. < 1452458866 393610 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a general idea more than a fixedly-defined operator < 1452458886 644336 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is the operator any different than writing the respective tuple? < 1452458951 793885 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I don't know, really. It's good for dynamically creating mathematical structures, at least. < 1452458995 713590 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you "create a structure" without defining how to calculate in it < 1452458999 985826 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What weird types of OO could there be? I'm currently catalogueing OO models and have Classes, Prototypes, and Groups (which really encompass rings and algebras and fields and such) < 1452459018 983681 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I'm clueless, OK? It was just a fleeting thought that I didn't think much about < 1452459867 709642 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila JOIN :#esoteric < 1452460263 200963 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1452460278 534570 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1452460298 239330 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :b-jonas, i watched that prince of ppersia run and it was amazing thanks for recommending it! < 1452460709 370559 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1452460760 805340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452461001 901502 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452461053 881640 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vanila: had you known of that skip on level 5? that was new to me < 1452461148 549828 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps a programming language that is SO (Subject-Oriented) instead of OO (Object-Oriented)? < 1452461191 442818 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, that's already a thing xD < 1452461222 23105 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know any of it! < 1452461237 71417 :vanila!~vanila@unaffiliated/vanila PRIVMSG #esoteric :except buffering inputs i g uess < 1452461467 90468 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that skip is indeed possible by the way, even with my lame skills I could replicate it, although in a much slower way < 1452461912 722928 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1452462399 728040 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have not verified my puzzle (as far as I can tell), although you have answered some questions, the answers which do not however invalidate it. < 1452462440 919732 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: new MTG puzzle? < 1452462453 650496 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haavard: Yes. < 1452462465 448945 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/magic_card/puzzle.7 < 1452462488 310020 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There is also puzzle.6 I don't know if you have seen that one either?) < 1452462557 753244 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't gotten around to give any of them serious thought, to be honest < 1452462566 861447 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except the first one, but I'm probably wrong about my answer < 1452462593 868679 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your answer though? < 1452462647 869306 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :119 < 1452462704 140094 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which cards do you think could be used though? < 1452462785 760390 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you could just attack with Leviathan and Bloodrush the Pyrewild Shaman for the win < 1452462913 572124 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I see why that doesn't work now < 1452462937 489020 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need mana to do that! < 1452462976 259939 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the Leviathan trigger happens before you get the change to bloodrush < 1452463010 618055 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I figured my answer was wrong, it was too stupid < 1452463041 996183 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leviathan's only triggered ability applies during your upkeep. < 1452463048 807396 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like printing out proxies of the board state and every card in The Dark would help solving this :P < 1452463057 299620 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may mean the cost < 1452463065 397556 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, I meant the attack cost < 1452463104 77228 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can't float the mana for bloodrush, because of reasons < 1452463123 602926 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'd look in the comprehensive rules but it's too late to bother) < 1452463151 681319 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the Leviathan again < 1452463187 922227 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely it's not as bad as Panglacial Wurm < 1452463252 879415 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haavard: I count four cards in The Dark that would give you enough mana to bloodrush (there are also others that can win in other ways such as attacking) < 1452463324 33066 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My puzzle.7 does include Panglacial Wurm, but you can notice that none of the other cards in the puzzle say to search your library anyways. < 1452463353 589151 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haavard: no, it's not that Leviathan itself is bad, it's just that I remember zzo38's puzzle with a Leviathan, and I suspect this is the same one < 1452463368 552009 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :It likely is, b_jonas < 1452463375 623932 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is the "first one" that haavard is refering to < 1452463376 768991 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: is the wurm a red herring, then? < 1452463379 596026 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean puzzle.1) < 1452463402 276686 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, puzzle.1 < 1452463421 584487 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haavard: No, it is a green wurm < 1452463436 905713 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :zing < 1452463462 268781 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which asks to count possible cards from The Dark that let you win the game, which is crazy because I know very little about the early sets. < 1452463506 920067 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also look at my puzzle.6 and puzzle.7 which are the newest ones < 1452463511 291986 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even have any cards from them, since they were printed in such a low number of copies < 1452463559 897302 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think The Dark was such a low print run < 1452463568 711687 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, puzzle.6 is the one with Artificial Evolution and Fork < 1452463625 418101 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I counted thirteen cards as the answer to puzzle.1, six of which involve having enough mana to use bloodrush < 1452463704 936633 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haavard: I don't know, but I believe I have no cards at all from the early expansions (and also from the early core sets) < 1452463740 81292 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a book with all of the old cards, and there is also Gatherer and others to find the cards on < 1452463742 358013 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas I have at least a few cards from every expert set starting from Mirage and from every core set starting from Revised < 1452463763 361516 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I do not have any cards though) < 1452463788 109184 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sure, there's Gatherer, http://magiccards.info/ , yawgatog's list, and at some point I used to have a list I made myself but since they made the new Gatherer I haven't fixed it < 1452463810 989951 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit tricky because many lists get the split cards, flip cards, and two-faced cards wrong < 1452463832 256098 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the old Gatherer used to < 1452463844 969409 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the new one _almost_ gets them correctly, except not quite < 1452463922 948846 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: anyway, as for puzzle.6, that looks like the same one that you told about in the channel, apparently before you write it up < 1452463938 334689 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I beleive I know the solution < 1452463978 543487 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although this is a more complicated versino of it < 1452464102 270944 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would want SQLite extension which can access those services, to figure out which is best for the query and how to query the server in the optimal way to do what the user has requested. < 1452464130 744626 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does that have to do with SQLite? < 1452464168 210525 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a virtual table < 1452464172 172420 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yawgatog's is probably the best. < 1452464189 827243 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that reminds me < 1452464198 683633 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the setfaq out yet for the latest set? < 1452464204 872741 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you look at my puzzle.7 yet though? < 1452464215 807268 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if the setfaq is out yet < 1452464239 202197 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too tired to solve a new puzzle now. It has panglacial wurm in it so it's scary. < 1452464279 984913 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Laboratory Maniac, so it might be connected to what we talked about < 1452464297 129977 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you say there's no way to search library in it, then I wonder how the panglacial is relevant < 1452464328 370445 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely you won't put Panglacial Wurm in it just to get a big wurm with trample, there's tons of other wurms and beasts and treefolk < 1452464339 201399 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although the treefolk don't have trample, I think) < 1452464365 478565 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right! Oakgnarl Warrior has trample. I should have remembered that, I like that card < 1452464381 205669 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also several other treefolks < 1452464381 619741 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-9.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is still a 9/5 green Wurm creature with trample for {5GG} < 1452464392 241833 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, that's scary < 1452464415 592644 :haavard!freebsd@haavard.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dies to bolt + shock, unplayable < 1452464460 697250 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chromatic Sphere, Skirge Familiar, Laboratory Maniac, Lhurgoyf, this starts to sounds like that thing we talked about with mana abilities < 1452464478 684935 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what's an Anafenza, the Foremost (/me checks) < 1452464496 317187 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's one of _those_ replacement effects < 1452465418 592103 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for DOS Prince of Persia, there's some unfortunate implications when you think of that Mechner has made the realistic animations by filming his brother doing moves and then drawing them, < 1452465450 368294 :b_jonas!~x@152.66.83.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that the game shows both the hero and the guards get impaled on spikes and get chopped in half by choppers. < 1452466378 15294 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1452466517 792262 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "All language reduces to a finite string of Hitlers" <-- i sensed a great amount of conflation of meanings of the word "is" there. and an unfounded assumption that the result is an equivalence relation. < 1452466558 611566 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, yes, I noticed that too. < 1452466575 655091 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's be more accurate to say "cat falls under the umbrella of cute" < 1452466596 828721 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So hitler and love are under the same umbrella, but are not the same. < 1452466600 237147 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Necessarily. < 1452466603 268308 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They could be though. < 1452466621 601933 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your umbrella = set hth < 1452466630 275563 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's more like 7 trillion ambiguities that /could/ be resolved into a socially repulsive view < 1452466637 40997 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: More of a euler diagram, IMHO < 1452466649 360862 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can be represented as a set, but it isn't necessarily a set < 1452466662 714059 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"umbrella" is an umbrella term for anything that is equivalent to a set < 1452466669 935242 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Recursive definitions FTW!) < 1452466808 663713 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HitlerAteSugar (warning, evil link) < 1452467117 235352 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. you are evil. < 1452467255 982898 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1452467299 937808 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bomwahahahily < 1452467437 139406 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Bob: I want to commit genocide. Alice: The Nazis committed genocide. Bob: Really? What was I thinking? I can't believe I was going to do something the Nazis did." < 1452467472 158445 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1452467498 666819 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps best ais523 didn't see that. < 1452467525 810130 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm, you cunningly say that right as I join < 1452467534 323085 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you trying to bait me into logreading? < 1452467548 18499 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles innocently < 1452467565 533325 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles more innocently than oerjan does < 1452467574 763178 :hppavilion[1]!~Devourero@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, /me tries, but /me can't whistle < 1452467576 226529 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles like an angel < 1452467609 727522 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1452467641 109534 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elronnd: stop whistling in an apocalyptic booming tone twh < 1452467653 393476 :Elronnd!elronnd@znc.dank.ninja PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles like a devil < 1452467667 181318 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07List of operators14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46139&oldid=45705 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (-100) 10/* A note on types */ Changed to haskell, now fixing the article < 1452467755 514854 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well in my client it fit so nicely between your ping-out and your join < 1452468310 503645 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: an evil link from the evil twin? < 1452468359 405450 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1452468383 877260 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not even worth a swat hth < 1452468499 69447 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07List of operators14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=46140&oldid=46139 5* 03Hppavilion1 5* (+1697) 10/* The operators */ Haskell-like types, some new operators < 1452468565 445093 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lightly mapoles FireFly < 1452469264 619507 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1452470155 518712 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1452470155 984822 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 102331Z 21007G19KT 5SM -RA FEW014 OVC030 06/05 A2913 RMK SF2SC6 PRESRR SLP868 < 1452470173 189348 :boily!~alexandre@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: int-ello. lambdabot was dropped from stackage LTS-4.0 :( < 1452470264 734011 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1452470362 777458 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking. i think int-e isn't here at the moment...